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Thursday, May 24, 2018

6:30 PM · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topic tracked across meetings:
Dept. of Ecology Water Quality Combined Financial Assistance Grant (Olde Town Targeted Basin Study and Plan Study) AB 8939 6/9
Section
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a
Commission Membership
packet pp.3
Staff report:
Planning Policy Commission About Staff Liaison Created in 1983, this commission serves as a Trish Heinonen, Planning Manager policy advisory body to the Mayor and provides Email guidance and direction for Issaquah’s future growth through continued review and improvement to the Regular Members City’s Comprehensive Land Use Plan and related 2018 – Joy Lewis land use documents. 2018 – Jon Stob 2018 – Carl Swedberg Membership 2018 – Lindsey Walsh The Planning Policy Commission is comprised of 2019 – Joan Probala seven regular members, with four-year terms; and 2020 – Ron Faul several alternates, with two-year terms. All 2020 – Troy Rahmig members are appointed by the Mayor and subject to confirmation by the City Council. Terms expire Alternate Members April 30 of the year listed. For more information, 2018 – AJ McGauley see IMC 18.03. 2018 – Vacant 2018 – Vacant 2018 – Vacant
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of May 10, 2018
packet pp.5–10
Staff report:
CITY OF ISSAQUAH PLANNING POLICY COMMISSION MINUTES
3. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
3a
Upcoming Schedule
packet pp.11
4. AGENDA ITEMS
4a
Orientation/Training
Information · Trish Heinonen, Planning Policy Manager Christen Leeson, Senior Planner · packet pp.13–50
Staff report:
AGENDA ITEMS a) Bylaws Revised 5/18/2018 Final Draft reviewed by City Clerk’s Office
4b
Tour of Olde Town Subarea Plan Area
Keith Niven, Economic Development and Development Services Director Trish Heinonen, Planning Policy Manager The purpose of this special agenda item is to Town Subarea and observe existing Schedule Departing from Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, with stops in front of, near, or Avenue SE Street Returning to Council Chambers, 135 E. 9:05 PM Sunset Way · packet pp.51
Topics: Land Use
0:31 okay okay
0:42 we're going to do a little field trip
0:44 but before we do that we are going to
0:47 have a motion to approve the minutes for
0:50 the last meeting do I have a motion for
0:55 the May 10th meeting the second all
1:01 those in favor say aye
1:03 motion carried opposed motion carries
1:06 right now we're going to do a little
1:08 orientation training to review the
1:13 members and to initiate our new members
1:16 so welcome all three of you maybe we can
1:21 do a little just introduction of who you
1:24 are and why you want to be on the
1:27 Commission oh you start you the first
1:31 one can we remind you that you need to
1:33 turn on your microphones when we're
1:35 sitting here
1:36 red lights have to be on all right
1:38 perfect
1:38 I'm Chris nice to meet everybody lived
1:41 here in Issaquah about a year and a half
1:43 now I applied to serve on the Planning
1:46 Policy Commission because I wanted an
1:48 opportunity to give back to my community
1:49 and learn more about how the community
1:52 works and how government works and I
1:54 just thought I could lend my voice to
1:56 improve the community and I'm excited to
1:58 get to know all of you more and work
2:00 with you more in this capacity thank you
2:03 yeah
2:03 my name is bill Reinert I've been here
2:05 in town for close to nine years also
2:08 joined the PBC to volunteer more be a
2:11 little more involved in decisions in the
2:17 community hi Jamie Rosen I've been in
2:23 Issaquah specifically in Highlands
2:26 for the last three years I've been in
2:27 the area for about 20 years and wanted
2:31 to join the Planning Policy commission
2:32 to help get involved with a lot of the
2:37 very important planning that's going on
2:39 for our city and so much the strategic
2:42 thinking that's going on and I'm really
2:45 feel like my
2:46 and experience hopefully can be helpful
2:48 to the team and I'm looking forward to
2:50 working with everyone so welcome to all
2:54 of you there is one new member that
2:56 isn't here tonight and he will join us
3:01 in July and then everybody can meet him
3:04 in July all the millions of people that
3:07 are watching us on television right now
3:08 so thank you for it's really funny you
3:13 know you all said that you wanted to get
3:16 involved in whatever I give you about
3:18 two months and you're just gonna get
3:19 sucked into everything so with that I'm
3:22 going to turn this over to Trish and let
3:25 us review what we're supposed to be
3:27 doing I'm planning policy and a couple
3:28 of wonderful housekeeping I wanted to
3:30 introduce Kristin Lisa and who's our
3:32 senior planner she makes up the other
3:34 half of the dynamic long range team the
3:38 other half being me we're still looking
3:41 for that perfect person to help us with
3:43 our projects but we will find that
3:46 person soon I'm sure so I didn't want
3:48 you all to wonder who is this wonderful
3:50 woman at the table she is Kristin Lisa
3:53 so two other things not quite as
3:56 exciting is that but the arch housing
3:59 tour is going on on Wednesday June 6th
4:02 from 5 from 5 to 8 and the RSVP is to be
4:08 in by May 30th I've handed out the
4:11 information it would be awesome if any
4:13 of you or all of you could go and learn
4:14 about how the region is dealing with
4:16 interesting and new designs and ideas
4:18 and strategies for affordable housing so
4:21 that's that's for you to think about and
4:24 hopefully go the other piece that you
4:26 get to be involved in is envisioning
4:28 Gilman Boulevard there's a survey online
4:31 right now and I'll pass these out so you
4:33 can take the survey and also someone who
4:36 I think will be Kristin will be sharing
4:38 some of the information in June and then
4:41 there's an open house July 11th at
4:45 Pickering barn that will also talk about
4:48 how we can all make our voices heard and
4:51 how Gilman Boulevard might be redesigned
4:54 reshaped re-envisioned for our future ok
4:58 you introduce the last person over here
5:02 in case our new in case anyone didn't
5:04 know Keith Niven who is our the director
5:07 of not only development services but
5:09 also of Economic Development Department
5:11 so he's the head of everything over in
5:13 City Hall Northwest and he also is going
5:16 to be the tour driver today so he can do
5:20 just about anything and this is joy okay
5:35 so now that joy is comfortable we're
5:38 going to separate you all into two teams
5:41 some with the rookies and we have to
5:44 have rookies and veterans on a team so
5:47 how how should we do that because we
5:49 only have an hour for the training
5:51 because we hope to be out on the tour by
5:53 7:30 ish so that will still have
5:55 sunlight so we're probably going to keep
5:59 doing training in June but we want to
6:01 get as far as we clear tonight one two
6:03 three four five yes to tease you yep
6:09 yes about you to take Chris and Jamie
6:16 I don't know how to do this joy okay
6:23 perfect see Kristen makes a decision
6:25 good job okay so this is the huge amount
6:31 of training that we're going to do and
6:32 it's really not all that much over and
6:36 join us what we're gonna do never mind
6:40 okay I love this what we're gonna do is
6:44 we're gonna have some some question
6:47 answers and and where's the demarcation
6:50 of the is you two are on different teams
6:52 it takes three four one two three four
6:54 okay I was just making sure were there
6:56 so there wasn't like a gray area I don't
6:58 want them to cheat kidding okay
7:02 I hope hopefully yeah you can phone a
7:05 friend so this is what we hope to get
7:07 through now and in June but we'll see
7:10 how fast we can go but always you can
7:12 stop us for questions because you won't
7:15 use all of this every meeting but you
7:19 might so just to remind you all the new
7:23 members are not official until June 14th
7:26 that'll be your first official meeting
7:28 and we're also going to have elections
7:29 that night probably after the park
7:32 strategic plan gets presented so cuz
7:34 Lindsey can't be there for a while we
7:36 want as many people there to talk about
7:38 elections as possible whoops
7:43 June 14th so open public meetings act ok
7:50 we're to start with this team over here
7:51 Ron Troy and Chris list to actions you
7:55 should never ever do just two actions
7:59 you can either talk amongst yourselves
8:01 or you can just shout wait
8:04 so Jamie's on that team okay I thought
8:08 that was the split okay
8:10 no it's been a long day probably guess
8:17 for you too
8:20 okay I'm not sure how much time we
8:23 should give him Kristen Kristen how much
8:26 time should we give up your summary okay
8:29 answer
8:30 are you the counter are you the time
8:33 counter ready okay do we have
8:36 answer yeah okay you want one or two
8:38 answers two to the one is meeting
8:44 outside of normal meeting times are
8:47 publicized meeting time as a group like
8:51 more than you or I was just waving and
8:57 it's just waiting okay and then the
9:00 second item would be a similar thing but
9:03 no group email discussions about topics
9:06 accident okay excellent okay does
9:10 everybody get that why we all need it
9:17 right right there's been some things
9:19 okay years and they get do they get a
9:23 prize so team to our team be whoever you
9:30 are
9:31 ethics list to actions you should never
9:34 ever ever do
9:38 already be made up to what you're
9:40 discussing coming into the meet after
9:42 the discussion and the voting and
9:45 everybody good one more
9:51 yep dev to who you should always
9:54 disclose any private interest that you
9:56 may have in a tough are you gonna talk
9:58 amongst yourselves
10:02 joy is her own team there you go you can
10:12 do that too just don't hit anybody so
10:14 we're just a private
10:22 you may have an axon that's in front of
10:24 you any questions about that a lot of
10:26 the ethics stuff is becoming sense okay
10:31 harassment freshmen for a team a one
10:35 name five of the eleven of the protected
10:39 classes that have protection against
10:41 harassment gender okay I'm sorry
10:47 gender religion race gender identity
10:51 sexual orientation I don't know age yeah
11:00 yeah giving it away sexual orientation
11:09 religion
11:11 economics Oh
11:16 how many'd you get it I don't know four
11:19 okay I'm team two can add any age over
11:25 forty yeah I don't think they got
11:32 ethnicity ethnicity
11:36 origin is what they are okay I was like
11:39 I don't have that okay creed color
11:43 citizenship status I think we got them
11:47 all any questions about that
11:51 awesome we just always need to be really
11:55 aware of the open meetings act just
12:00 always try to be aware of what you're
12:03 talking about when you're with folks
12:06 when you amongst yourselves and I'm
12:10 gonna do some what ifs hey Trish P yes
12:13 as far as open meetings act we want to
12:16 bring up the other discussion that we
12:17 had with females and that's what we're
12:20 on right now okay yeah so here's a
12:23 scenario not that this would ever happen
12:24 because we're really smart about all
12:27 this you get an email at each of you
12:29 gets an email from an advocacy group
12:31 that's wanting something done about some
12:34 project that's coming to you and that
12:36 you're gonna be hearing about can you
12:39 reply back and say you go for it I
12:42 totally agree with you hang in there or
12:45 can you write back just at PPC I totally
12:48 agree with this group I think they
12:50 should just stand tall can you do either
12:53 those for both of them right you can't
12:56 do either of those because those are a
12:59 violation of the Open Meetings Act what
13:01 you can do if you have to but we would
13:03 rather you not you can write back and
13:05 say thank you and that's all you can say
13:09 but we'd rather you not answer it at all
13:11 we would rather you let the staff answer
13:14 it or if you have questions about it you
13:16 can write just directly to staff not to
13:19 the whole group because that's a
13:20 conversation you can write back to us
13:23 and say
13:23 what should we do is this is this valid
13:26 or is this whatever questions you have
13:28 but please don't email to the group okay
13:31 are there questions on that because it's
13:33 so easy when you read something to just
13:35 go yeah or what do you think you know I
13:38 mean so just be really aware that we
13:40 were wearing your PPC hat you have to be
13:42 really careful about email don't hit the
13:44 replied yes correct
13:46 you do not do that correct correct
13:49 correct okay here's a good one
13:51 you're also on a board like mountains to
13:55 Sound Greenway what is the proper way
13:57 for you to talk about issues as a as a
14:00 PPC member and as a board of a member of
14:03 another place like would you say as a
14:06 PPC member I represent PPC's opinion
14:10 when I say this or would you say I'm a
14:13 PPC member and although I don't speak
14:15 for PPC my own opinion is this
14:25 individual opinion right you can say
14:28 that you're a member of PPC but you
14:30 don't ever represent them all by
14:32 yourself unless you're stating that we
14:35 voted on a recommendation and the vote
14:37 was this you can say that in a factual
14:40 way but you can't say I was talking to
14:42 my PPC buds and we think this you my
14:46 with disclosing PPC first before you
14:48 give your like we have one of our
14:51 favorite public folks is Mel Morgan and
14:54 he's on development Commission and he
14:56 comes up and he'll say I'm on the
14:57 development Commission but I'm speaking
14:59 as a private citizen so it keeps them
15:01 separate that he's not speaking for DC
15:03 he's speaking for and and it's just
15:05 really important to keep that clear
15:07 because in the past we've had folks on
15:09 PPC that say like to an editorial to the
15:12 paper or to an email to the paper that
15:15 they're representing PPC and so we've
15:17 gotten in a bit of a so we just want to
15:20 be sure that that that that and that was
15:22 that was a really good question you ask
15:23 because I don't think we talked about
15:24 that enough
15:26 I know right
15:31 they were they not representing our just
15:34 presenting okay that's right so it's
15:36 just different we're an advisory board
15:38 right whereas they're elected and so
15:39 they're put on those boards to represent
15:42 right the city right okay right good
15:44 question though good differentiation
15:45 okay cool
15:47 the next one would be four of you
15:50 inadvertently end up at concerts on the
15:51 green and you start chatting is that a
15:54 bad thing it's not unless you start
16:02 talking about whoa did you see the pack
16:04 up for next week what do you think about
16:06 XY and Z so certainly you can all meet
16:09 up places inadvertently but what about
16:11 the next one you all meet for coffee to
16:13 talk about a complicated topic yeah I
16:17 can't do that I can't do that unless you
16:19 advertise it in the paper and you know
16:21 we're just not gonna but just just be
16:24 careful about that
16:25 and this is about the email again what
16:28 if one of you goes to Portland and sees
16:30 a really cool affordable housing thing
16:32 that they do or cool something can you
16:33 email a link to everybody and say wow
16:35 this is a really cool thing I attended
16:39 it would be better if you because we
16:42 love that you're excited about that
16:43 would be better if you send it to us the
16:45 staff and then the staff sends it just
16:47 so there's no like reply like well it is
16:49 really cool when the discussion starts
16:51 so we love that you're interested but
16:54 just be really careful so here's a
16:56 tricky one last year we had to go behind
16:59 closed doors for 15 minutes what do you
17:02 think it could have been what would
17:03 allow us to go back there and close the
17:05 door not going to close ourselves
17:15 it was a violation we were told by the
17:18 attorney of a violation of an Open
17:20 Meetings Act and so I had to let
17:22 everybody know of what happened and how
17:25 not to do it again so it was just one of
17:27 those that I didn't we didn't want to do
17:29 that in public on TV but we it was one
17:31 of those gentle reminders that remember
17:33 we talked about this so it's the only
17:35 reason that we would all go back in the
17:37 room back there okay
17:38 so back to the quiz which team did we
17:42 end with so you guys okay PPC's main
17:48 reason for existence PPC serves as a and
17:52 I gave you some hints here with the red
17:54 letters they start with a P and a and a
17:56 B ha nice and the mayor and provides
18:02 guidance and direction guys are hot
18:06 through continued for its akua's age
18:10 your growth guys through continued
18:13 review and improvement to the operates a
18:16 plan yes and related and directions
18:27 really close
18:28 I think development regulations bonus
18:35 points if you can name one of the yellow
18:38 or one of the with the red the yellow
18:40 asterisks or the red one of the one of
18:44 the comprehensive plans or pieces the
18:48 central issyk-kul plan yeah say it
18:52 confidently Lindsay
18:55 like that because we just my
18:58 seven-year-old answer how about a red
19:04 one can you name it red one the red
19:06 aster what's the last word in that land
19:12 use I'm gonna say development regs I
19:14 should look at my development man did Oh
19:22 documents sorry I get penalized land use
19:27 documents is it what Oh cuz are you not
19:36 on so he can't hear you okay then that's
19:42 not always a bad thing right the
19:49 Issaquah Municipal Code which we call 18
19:51 and central Issaquah standards would be
19:53 the other the main ones okay did they
19:56 get a prize or we just leave in the
19:58 candy in between them okay okay so these
20:03 are the answers to that really hard
20:07 slide so here's another really hard one
20:08 for you guys a lot of folks get this
20:12 group confused with the Development
20:13 Commission but now that we don't have
20:15 any crossover members we're gonna have
20:17 to keep them straight all by ourselves
20:19 so the Development Commission is
20:22 different than we are and they review
20:24 land-use actions you know like they
20:27 actually like like Platts yeah you're
20:32 like construction kinds of things that
20:34 are going to turn into construction so
20:36 described in Luc what would that be yep
20:40 and
20:44 it's Christmas good
20:47 and they also serve as a blank to the
20:51 City Council on land-use actions what do
20:54 they serve as yes OCN even giving any
20:57 letters for that can you name an action
20:59 that they would have advised City
21:00 Council on no a project what's a project
21:08 nice I think they do Atlas tonight how
21:13 is peanut bonus how is DC different than
21:16 PPC give them some chocolate excellent
21:22 no I'm just kidding
21:24 why how are you guys different okay
21:37 right that's what I was looking for very
21:40 good very good she's studied for this
21:44 girl yes
21:45 so the first three gateway gateway
21:48 senior Atlas and Taco Time
21:50 DC made the recommend that they actually
21:52 made the final decision on the ones they
21:56 were advisory to council would be like
21:58 the schools they were master site plans
22:00 or like Bergsma they just looked at
22:03 Bergsma for a recommendation so very
22:05 very good you guys are doing good GMA is
22:09 anyone heard of growth Management Act
22:11 yay
22:12 so you guys bonus what year was it
22:16 enacted how many people were here in
22:23 1990 was here in 1900 okay Jonas here
22:32 okay good to know
22:34 okay what does it provide a framework
22:36 for what kind of coordination nice nice
22:42 and requires what to adopt or who to
22:45 adopt countywide planning policies
22:47 there's a clue in the question and the
22:53 county the county has to adopt
22:55 countywide policies but then we get to
22:56 weigh in on them and ratify them yep and
22:59 what does it require the establishment
23:03 of an enhance is the big red arrow
23:04 pointing to the big red line yes and why
23:09 do we care about that as Issaquah can
23:12 you see us in the boundary
23:18 of all the cities we have the most I
23:21 would say we have the most of our
23:23 boundary on the urban line so we're very
23:27 earthen and then there's yes and so we
23:31 have we all have always felt we have
23:33 more of a yes that's a good word to hold
23:39 the line to not let the line go into the
23:41 earth through the rural areas so I
23:43 wanted to be sure we mentioned that so
23:46 here are the answers you guys are way
23:49 too smart tonight which is really good
23:51 growth Management Act goals there are 14
23:54 named five shout them out because you
23:58 guys are so good you don't even need to
24:00 be in - yeah it's the first one yeah
24:07 yeah oh well yeah Environmental
24:11 Protection is that what you're going for
24:13 okay don't run with scissors yes right
24:22 right so they drew a line right well
24:27 there's a couple that deal with with
24:29 right
24:30 others Environment Protection open space
24:37 and recreation those work yep yep yes
24:41 concentration of urban growth that's
24:43 number two good
24:53 right and housing yeah affordable
24:59 housing yeah yeah yes yes about this
25:06 public facilities they want to be sure
25:08 that this is why it was great to not be
25:15 on camera because we just have property
25:19 rights is one of them that might be just
25:24 right in the middle of all of it but
25:25 these are all the reasons that all the
25:27 pieces that the state was trying to
25:29 achieve in 1990 these are all the high
25:32 hopes that they had of of why the state
25:35 needed some growth management because
25:37 people were coming and we weren't really
25:38 ready so well done you all and if we're
25:41 going too fast for the new folks you can
25:44 certainly stop us and ask us what we're
25:46 talking about or later you can ask us
25:48 you can always ask us but obviously that
25:51 everybody brought their egg game tonight
25:52 so very good this is another picture of
25:57 Issaquah and the urban growth boundary
25:59 and you can see to the west to the south
26:03 and to the east is all rural lands you
26:05 can see also they're very green and
26:07 wonderful and open most of them so the
26:10 city is very proud of that we only have
26:12 that kind of wood one potential
26:14 annexation area left to the west we we
26:20 lost half of it went went rural which
26:23 was good but we're still negotiating the
26:25 other half with King County
26:30 No okay here we go growth targets one of
26:35 our favorite thoughts the state mandated
26:38 growth targets are to establish a blank
26:40 as to how many new blank blank and blank
26:43 must be accommodated
26:45 any thoughts on those words good yes
26:57 baseline jobs jobs yeah yes excellent
27:03 bonus who knows what the dates are for
27:06 what the housing for what this housing
27:08 target is so you got your second one
27:14 right when we started this certain count
27:18 it's a long time ago seems like it
27:27 housing targets were given to us in 2006
27:34 he has a seven in it though that's good
27:40 how about jobs how many jobs were we
27:43 supposed to take a combat accommodate I
27:46 know whoops as soon as I said it I went
27:48 wrong to accommodate and it doesn't mean
27:50 we have to have them but our zoning has
27:52 to accommodate the housing units and the
27:54 jobs growth through the zoning the city
27:57 doesn't have to guarantee or we don't
27:59 have to provide them ourselves we just
28:01 have to have zoning that accommodates it
28:03 so that's kind of a fine-tuning of it
28:05 any idea of jobs you forgot what the
28:13 numbers 20,000 these jobs
28:20 okay any questions about our growth
28:21 targets you have data on where we're at
28:25 yes we're gonna do that in Shanghai
28:27 start the cut plan - ok annexations are
28:32 we getting close to 7:30 cuz stop me if
28:33 we're going over at 7:30 okay
28:36 my favorite 18 annexation since 1990
28:41 anybody here in 1990 who all was here in
28:44 1990 just Joan Joan we're awesome King
28:51 County Island
28:52 yeah we said South Dakota Providence
28:54 point Frank yeah
28:57 the Highlands which was known as blue
29:00 and lead or grand Ridge okay and it's on
29:05 the other side yeah yeah there's five
29:10 any others turn them out there the state
29:15 park oh that's one of my favorites Lake
29:17 State Park was very North hyssop ah yes
29:21 this is just since 1990 all the places
29:24 that are in color have and this is in
29:26 your comprehensive plan which is really
29:28 exciting
29:28 because I know you're gonna want to look
29:30 this up after you go home tonight these
29:32 are all of the things that we've annexed
29:33 just since 1990 just since this growth
29:36 management act started you can see we've
29:39 been very busy and this one blows my
29:43 head open this is all of our annexation
29:45 history this is also in the
29:47 comprehensive plan you can see our
29:49 original Township is just a little itty
29:51 bitty um in Old Town of course which is
29:54 why we we should call it maybe original
29:56 town that would be another thing but
29:57 just so you know we've been a very busy
30:00 community since the beginning of time
30:03 okay who are these groups and why do we
30:07 care I do love this slide name I think
30:11 we were getting tired by here no we
30:12 weren't we love these folks name an
30:14 activity where it's acual would work
30:16 with these agencies King County Metro
30:18 transportation yeah yeah anything else I
30:23 mean that's a big one but we also work
30:27 on annexations with them
30:29 and getting rid of potential annexation
30:31 air squeak work on that too how about
30:34 the Puget Sound Regional Council either
30:37 that with the Planning Council there the
30:39 Planning Board what would we do with
30:40 them
30:41 earth management yeah Richard Briana
30:44 we're doing our growth management
30:46 targets mm-hmm
30:47 they're the ones that told us that we
30:49 could be a regional growth Center so we
30:51 were money yes we do ask them we work
30:54 with them to get yes that's a better way
30:56 to say it but we do ask them for good
30:59 good so our regional course we have
31:11 central Issaquah you know our central
31:12 supplies mm-hmm okay so we have central
31:15 Issaquah and then starting at southeast
31:18 56 northeast 56 right by Costco and
31:22 going about over to the Creek
31:24 Pickering down south of i90 to maple and
31:30 Newport and then up Newport and then
31:34 over - do you know where the rally
31:36 properties are just west of us are 900
31:38 oh there we go that's our that is our
31:42 there you know growth center right there
31:45 and what that means is once we became a
31:46 regional growth center we had to set
31:48 target specific to that area but we also
31:51 become eligible for funds for import
31:55 infrastructure that we would not
31:56 typically be eligible for yep and a
32:01 train station which brings us to well
32:02 next bullet some transit what do we do
32:05 it down yes and st3 which will bring us
32:11 the rail station in 2041
32:15 well time that'll be the slide yes yes
32:21 yes there's so much to do how could we
32:24 leave won't you you're gonna be there
32:26 for the ribbon-cutting right no a
32:31 regional coalition for housing arch what
32:34 do you think we do with them yes where's
32:43 the Gilman thing Oh sound cities
32:45 Association what may be do with them
32:50 planning business right there 37 cities
32:56 and that we do advocacy at a state level
32:58 with them with between economic things
33:00 and Community Development and we just
33:02 sort of also together I'm sorry we get
33:04 together and work together on all sorts
33:07 of things and the joint recommendation
33:09 committee what do we do with them it's
33:16 for housing its to get more housing
33:17 funds excellent and there are all the
33:21 answers how are we doing anybody lost
33:24 yet we're just getting started
33:26 okay huh the comprehensive plan gotta
33:29 love this what is this but is the
33:31 comprehensive plan okay I'll ask it
33:36 again what does it do it establishes
33:40 overarching blank blank and blank for
33:43 the way the city will blank grow okay
33:46 we'll start from the egg sorry goals
33:51 actions and goals what do we just do
33:57 such a vision was that aha moment I'm
34:07 gonna say goals well okay and policies
34:10 yeah policies are in there there are
34:13 nine elements in the plan name five I
34:18 was in yes
34:21 good one ability no economic viability
34:28 yes - Troyes - four - yes three
34:34 excellent holding Cydia a cent housing
34:41 yeah Oh choice of housing but yes jobs
34:49 why is my capital facility so I'll give
34:52 you credit for that something fun yes
35:01 yes guys are good
35:05 now land use code very different than
35:07 the comp plan very different yet
35:09 connected blank see the blanks above
35:13 adopted in the Comprehensive Plan so
35:16 what would it do for the Comprehensive
35:19 Plan how do they how do they work
35:22 together it's how we implement the
35:26 competence yes exactly
35:27 it's it's the teeth for to get the
35:30 policies and the goals and the vision
35:31 very good there are nineteen this is a
35:35 kind of a funny one there are 19
35:37 chapters in the land-use code we're
35:39 really reaching for this can you name
35:40 five chapters what would be things that
35:43 we would look at in the land-use code
35:45 that our code kinds of things you just
35:47 worked on several of them that has
35:51 initials like design standard or oh well
35:54 our architectural what's the yeah yeah
35:57 yeah and what's something you guys just
35:59 did with initials so there's a whole
36:08 thing on standards how high how tall how
36:11 what else might be in there parking
36:13 parking yes I need yes
36:25 I'm good I don't know how to they're not
36:29 it's very good for charades the language
36:32 like the sidewalks and mobility or
36:35 something right right that would work
36:37 but anything you would look on for site
36:40 development so it would be anything to
36:43 do with permeable surfaces no stop right
36:46 there's a there's an environmental
36:47 chance right right and then you guys are
36:50 good so these are all versions the
36:53 chapters of the land use code are on one
36:55 side and the so you can see how they
36:57 would go together generally how the land
37:01 use code pieces implement the pieces of
37:04 the comp plan and this is an example
37:10 we're encouraging the encouraging you
37:13 know we use those kind of words in the
37:14 plan we encourage we create we
37:17 facilitate we all those kind of words
37:20 and then the land use code should say
37:23 shall you do this you do that you've
37:26 shelter this you may not do that you
37:28 cannot you know so it's very
37:30 black-and-white hopefully the code
37:32 because that's where our teeth are and
37:33 yet the comp plane is more aspirational
37:36 and guiding and visionary so that's the
37:39 difference and it's sometimes really
37:40 hard to keep them separate because
37:42 sometimes we'd like with the vision we
37:44 just sort of blended them and had a lot
37:46 of the vision in it but we also had some
37:47 teeth in it as well so that's we're
37:51 hoping that works really well to blend
37:52 them like that any questions on this can
37:56 you talk about PPC's relationship and
37:59 how we interact with the comprehensive
38:02 plan versus the land use code yes and
38:05 you do both in the beginning of the year
38:08 speaking of the comprehensive plan first
38:09 we're only allowed to by state law we're
38:12 only allowed to amend the comprehensive
38:14 plan once a year so in January we bring
38:17 a list of amendments to you all we call
38:19 that the docket it's really just a list
38:21 but it has a fancy name and that's where
38:24 we decide all of the pieces and parts we
38:26 want to amend that year and that goes
38:29 through council and they bless it and so
38:31 if somebody comes in
38:32 June and wants a different amendment or
38:34 another amendment we can't put it on the
38:36 docket till the next year and that's
38:38 according to the state that keeps
38:40 everyone looking at all the amendments
38:42 all at once comprehensively and not just
38:46 one at a time and not looking at them
38:49 all together so that's the comp plan and
38:51 you all are totally in charge of
38:53 recommendations and looking at the comp
38:56 plan amendments when code amendments
38:59 come through we're allowed to amend the
39:00 code whenever and however we want as
39:03 often as we want time permitting staff
39:06 permitting and so when those come to you
39:09 like with accessory dwelling units that
39:10 you just saw they either come to us
39:12 through the council has issues with
39:15 something and they ask the mayor to put
39:17 it on our work plan or we find through
39:20 applicants that we work with that
39:21 there's issues in the code that we need
39:22 to deal with it's maybe not clear and
39:24 off or it maybe it can it's conflicting
39:26 with something else then we would bring
39:29 those to you and you would recommend to
39:30 the council the changes that you've
39:33 decided on and that goes through the
39:35 council and then we keep you up to date
39:36 on what councils done with your
39:38 recommendations and that's usually on
39:40 the last sheet in your packet although
39:42 this week's it's in the middle but we
39:45 try to keep you apprised of how council
39:47 is working through your items is that
39:50 Lindsay what you were getting at how
39:52 does the comprehensive plan tie in or
39:54 relate to the vision the vision is in
39:57 the comprehensive plan and the central
40:00 Issaquah plan is a sub area of the big
40:03 comprehensive plan and also the old town
40:05 sub area plan is our two sub area plans
40:09 that we have in the city the old town
40:11 was first and we're updating that one
40:13 now and the reason we were hoping that
40:15 the new folks could go on the tour is
40:17 that the public hearing is in June and
40:19 we didn't want you all to come in cold
40:21 to the public hearing where we're hoping
40:23 if you're able that you'd make a
40:24 recommendation to council but we didn't
40:26 want your first meeting to be having to
40:28 make a recommendation on something that
40:30 you're just seeing something and if
40:32 we're not ready in June then we don't
40:34 have to be ready but we just thought we
40:36 would we would try to get everybody
40:37 ready
40:38 Patricia it would be really nice if you
40:40 could
40:41 to link to the comprehensive plan and
40:42 the land use code tutor members so that
40:45 they have that as a full reference point
40:48 sure yes
40:53 yeah so you'll have all the answers as
40:55 long as you don't share it with Jane
40:58 Jason who will be coming in July and we
41:00 will make sure that he takes this watch
41:03 this video that's true we may have to
41:05 think of new questions we're gonna make
41:08 him do it by himself on camera next
41:10 meeting good like jeopardy have an
41:12 answer all encodes okay excellent
41:15 you guys have good good questions oh I
41:18 think I already set all this stuff okay
41:21 there have been oh this is a good one
41:23 there have been for planning
41:24 implementation activities are evolving
41:26 around Old Town do you guys remember
41:28 what they have been including the one
41:34 that you're in the middle of now can you
41:36 name another one
41:37 there's the streetscape plan yeah yep
41:41 and there was also the stormwater that
41:46 was going on for a while and then before
41:48 that what did we call the Andrea's group
42:00 that started started the ball rolling in
42:03 Sunset yes and we sent out this cute
42:07 little postcard to everybody and those
42:08 were the four things that we're going on
42:11 we try to keep people involved this is
42:14 Old Town the green blob and where it
42:17 fits into the city and this is where the
42:19 tour is going to be tonight and the
42:24 standards which is not in the new
42:26 standards but this isn't the existing
42:28 standards and then how it relates to the
42:30 actually specific design standards so
42:34 again there's aspirational with the plan
42:36 and then more black and white teeth
42:39 kinds of things in the code in the
42:41 design standards so that's how they're
42:43 different and hopefully I'm not going to
42:47 say hopefully we will be working on
42:50 amendments to these next year based on
42:53 what the REC
42:54 nations have been in the plan so far any
42:57 questions on that hey look we're done
43:03 with this
43:04 as of Monday night the city is
43:09 officially or unofficially is it
43:11 official done with the moratorium they
43:13 adapted the vision I will send you the
43:16 link of the new visions although that
43:18 they don't take effect until August
43:21 because because we have some more things
43:24 to do it'll be okay but we adopted the
43:28 visions and the ad use and storage and
43:33 storage units but not on hotels so those
43:36 were the big three that PPC worked on
43:38 that went to Council in council took
43:39 action
43:40 so that was pretty exciting so I named a
43:42 few of the six items what are three
43:44 items that are not the vision that you
43:47 all worked on every blasted one of them
43:49 ding yes what kind of parking structure
43:53 yes what else did you guys work on for
43:56 the moratorium for design or area regime
44:22 no density went to words to words how
44:25 many syllables yeah it was a tricky one
44:32 what else did you guys work on remember
44:38 affordable housing that one these were
44:44 the six and you worked on and as Keith's
44:47 email said your fingerprints were all
44:49 over all of these not just the vision
44:51 thank you
44:52 hopefully we won't have anything quite
44:55 that intense but we might know we're
44:57 ready
44:58 central is taqwa' if you all just worked
45:02 on this for a long long time the
45:04 boundaries now are
45:05 the same as on this picture so I'm just
45:07 going to click right through it again
45:10 the plan has those chapters or elements
45:14 or whatever we call them and then the
45:15 standards which have the teeth have 17
45:19 now they have 18 because architecture
45:21 old design standards are chapter 18 of
45:25 the standards so we'll be delving into
45:28 those kind of cleaning them up now that
45:30 we have all new pieces in there we kind
45:32 of have to make sure they all really fit
45:34 really well so those are the two
45:36 different pieces for that and it so send
45:39 a link to the sims first yeah I see yes
45:43 four I'm going to just say everything
45:46 and this because this is all on it this
45:48 is one of the slides and this is again
45:49 how there's general in the plan
45:51 aspirational but the green necklace
45:53 which is another great piece you all
45:55 worked on and then how the standards
45:57 talked about the green necklace and
46:00 parks and that kind of thing and how
46:02 they're connected but they're different
46:04 okay no that's coming to great question
46:12 that's coming to you for a public
46:13 hearing on June I think is it 14th the
46:15 next meeting me now 28 it's the first
46:19 meeting of that it's the same night that
46:21 we do elections so that will be a great
46:27 night but that's the big big strategic
46:29 plan this is from the central plan this
46:34 was one of the visions of the central
46:35 plant can you tell where it is no can
46:43 you tell the building in the foreground
46:44 Oh mm-hmm head top on it
46:56 no yes yes that's the future yes and
47:00 then this one this was what we thought
47:04 another corner should look like anyone
47:06 recognize it and the third one you can
47:15 still see the forested hillsides and
47:17 corner there in the middle nice you guys
47:22 are wait we're gonna have to be harder
47:23 next time a typical year we talked about
47:26 this a little bit with a jacket the list
47:28 it comes out you review on you we do
47:32 interviews for new rock stars to join
47:33 our group in April and May and then we
47:37 look at the Transportation Improvement
47:38 Program which is all the list of
47:40 transportation projects that we hope to
47:43 achieve in the next six years then we
47:46 review all the complan and code
47:47 amendments through June through August
47:49 and then we make all our recommendations
47:52 to the council and then once we've got
47:54 that going to Council then we start back
47:56 into code amendments that's a piece of
47:59 cake with all over again and then we
48:02 throw a moratorium into everything and
48:04 yes just to make it super interesting
48:06 any questions about the typical year
48:11 right and the other piece while we're
48:15 talking about meetings is we hope that
48:18 all the alternate members will always
48:20 come to all the meetings you are always
48:23 welcome
48:24 we all during a regular typical meeting
48:26 we all sit up in the front you all get
48:28 to talk you all get to talk and discuss
48:30 and all those things the only thing
48:32 alternates cannot do if there's enough
48:34 if there's a quorum and then if there's
48:37 seven members is you can't actually make
48:40 a motion or vote but we will note your
48:42 comments in the minutes so that that
48:45 folks know sort of how that what
48:48 everybody's thinking and so we want you
48:50 to know that you're super important like
48:52 all the other like everyone else but
48:54 there's just that little tricky thing
48:55 about voting but wanted to to put that
48:58 out there this is a page a typical page
49:02 of the docket I will also send around
49:05 the docket and hopefully no one will
49:06 fall over
49:08 but this is sort of what the docket
49:10 looks like it has the items who's
49:11 supposed to work on it why we do it is
49:13 it a new one is it an old one that we do
49:16 every year that kind of thing this is
49:21 this is I think that was taken out I
49:23 think we're taking it out aren't we
49:25 yeah we're revising it to take the
49:26 moment we've been we're supposed to
49:29 propose to take that out yeah typical
49:34 meeting yeah their typical aren't they
49:35 you do the minutes like you did tonight
49:38 then we present a topic we hear public
49:40 comment from all the people here then we
49:43 discuss the topic some more one of the
49:45 members regular members makes a motion
49:47 you talk about the motion there might be
49:49 second you know so it goes along
49:51 Robert's Rules of Order the in their
49:53 packet there's the whole bylaws that's
49:57 very technical about what we do what
49:59 kind of a laid-back group work not as
50:02 technical as that made us sound but
50:03 we're very organized but the really cool
50:07 thing is if you're not here you can
50:10 actually see all the fun that we've had
50:12 by looking at the YouTube channel on the
50:15 city website which is usually up and
50:17 running the next morning if not that
50:19 night wes is super great at getting it
50:21 up right away if you were like you know
50:24 babysitting or something you can't be
50:26 here you can usually click on that night
50:28 and it's it's up and running and if you
50:30 are not here we would expect that to
50:34 come to the next meeting that you would
50:36 have watched all the meetings that you
50:38 didn't go to and made sure that you were
50:39 up to speed on the information in the
50:41 packet so that everybody voting and
50:43 discussing has all the same information
50:44 that's really important the mayor's
50:46 stressed that when we talked to her
50:48 about the bylaws that that's just a
50:50 given that everybody should be up to
50:52 speed on everything please let us know
50:55 if you're not going to be here when we
50:57 send out that notice right away it's
50:59 usually Thursdays or Fridays if we're
51:01 running late if you could let us know as
51:03 soon as you can that you be there and
51:05 you're not going to be here that helps
51:06 us understand if we have a quorum or not
51:08 so that we can vote if it's a public
51:10 hearing okay that's just super helpful
51:12 to us
51:13 Trish is it still true we have
51:15 you and Dominique know it's the best
51:18 that way in case she's gone her I'm gone
51:20 at least one of us will know and I had
51:24 and I wanted one Jason's here I'll give
51:29 my cell phone too because sometimes I
51:30 leave you know early to get here and
51:33 then if you've emailed me that you're
51:34 not going to be here I wouldn't get it
51:36 but I'll give you cell phone only to
51:39 tell me if you're not going to be ok
51:41 don't be texting me on the weekends with
51:43 no any questions about meetings voting
51:49 anything like that these are the how do
51:53 I Lindsey was saying that the comp plan
51:55 and the codes they're all on the website
51:57 and I can send you some information on
51:59 how to get there
52:01 the major projects map and list if
52:03 you're driving by and you see a
52:05 construction site or you see a big sign
52:07 you can go on our city map and you can
52:09 see exactly what's going on and what
52:11 documents have come in for that site and
52:13 which ones are new which documents are
52:15 new or not there's a place on the
52:17 website you can subscribe subscribe to
52:19 updates so they have like the community
52:23 events concerts on the green the farmers
52:27 market or planning issues road closures
52:30 I mean there's all sorts of things
52:31 there's a whole list of things that you
52:33 can subscribe for updates on the website
52:35 it's really pretty great sometimes I
52:37 hear more of my news through the website
52:39 update than I do from just walking
52:40 around the office and again if you want
52:43 to watch a PPC member PPC meeting again
52:45 or council meeting or council committee
52:47 meeting they're all on the YouTube
52:49 channel and they're sometimes they're
52:53 fun to watch again sometimes they might
52:54 be a little painful to watch again but
52:56 it's still the right thing is you can
52:58 watch them at 2 times speed
53:02 I do that all the time it shortens a
53:05 three hour meeting to an hour and a half
53:06 oh I see there you have some advice from
53:09 my matter I wouldn't have thought that
53:11 but that's really good with the new all
53:15 the new moratorium pieces that we've
53:17 done we're hoping to do a sample project
53:19 to development commission to have a
53:21 sample site plan and say this is how the
53:23 new parking vertical makes use all the
53:26 pieces fit into a new site plan and
53:28 we're I'm hoping that we invite you all
53:30 to be in the audience so that you can
53:32 see how all your good work turned into
53:33 an actual project but that's coming soon
53:36 we don't know have we don't have a date
53:37 for that yet questions comments did we
53:42 really get done in an hour
53:45 so what I can't see the fun it's only
53:48 seven twenty five nice job
53:50 anything else - any questions is there
53:54 any difference to our we had a
53:55 discussion about like excused absence
53:57 recording that was going to be changing
53:59 as far as like and then in the bylaws I
54:02 believe it mentioned five days well
54:05 there are five days is for regular like
54:08 ones that you know of right now like I
54:10 have to go out of town on business so
54:11 I'm going to be gone but if like
54:12 something awful happens which we hope
54:14 nothing ever awful but all of a sudden
54:16 like you're stuck at an airport and you
54:19 can't what ever happened as long as you
54:24 notify us right away that's still
54:25 excused but if you just don't show am i
54:28 yeah then when we're doing it the way
54:31 the council does it that it's unexcused
54:33 and I think if there's three that the
54:35 mayor can decide to but hopefully we
54:39 would never get to that but the thing I
54:42 would say is that almost all of our
54:44 meetings are here but sometimes they're
54:45 in other places now being somebody who
54:48 shows up here sometimes like where is
54:49 everybody
54:50 right and we try to we try to write
54:53 because I don't
54:55 I don't read the thing to cover right
54:58 and I tried no just the front page
55:00 versus the location
55:01 I always just once here I'm trying to
55:04 see where there's a schedule in your
55:10 packet it's usually at the end and now
55:12 that it's not at the end I can't find it
55:14 yeah it looks like this one and it's
55:18 always completely accurate well I'll say
55:21 it's accurate when I printed it but
55:23 often things change and meeting topics
55:25 move around but at least there's a
55:27 guesstimate of what we're talking about
55:30 on any given night and so sometimes
55:32 you'll already know that while in
55:33 October I'm not going to be here I'm
55:35 going to be in Pasadena and then just
55:38 let us know so that we can say well
55:40 someone's in Pasadena so we might not
55:42 have a quorum that night if everybody is
55:43 in Pasadena that night but it's just
55:45 sort of a way that for you to orient
55:47 your schedules to know that things are
55:49 going on
55:50 any other questions do you want to make
55:55 the announcement about the tour to make
56:07 sure that we understand all the things
56:09 about Old Town that we are going to be
56:11 discussing in the future and so we will
56:16 be leaving here shortly
56:18 and not coming back here to city to
56:22 council chamber so if anybody wants to
56:25 follow us and we tour along or to meet
56:29 up with us at any time
56:30 the map of our or is online in the pack
56:36 access it there or we have paper copies
56:38 source here for our viewing oh we do
56:41 have a viewing audience okay and that's
56:45 right and so everybody take your stuff
56:47 because we'll all be locked up close use
56:53 this is a meeting and close this meeting
56:55 or we just going to get up and leave I
56:57 think because it's the schedule says we
57:00 adjourn in the parking lot after but I
57:02 think would be better to adjourn
57:04 I think we should adjourn now this part
57:06 this part of the meeting we will be
57:10 right yeah so it's still a commercial
57:13 mission meeting but there it won't be
57:15 recorded okay thank you for saying that
57:19 I would if I got in trouble
57:38 you