okay okay
we're going to do a little field trip
but before we do that we are going to
have a motion to approve the minutes for
the last meeting do I have a motion for
the May 10th meeting the second all
those in favor say aye
motion carried opposed motion carries
right now we're going to do a little
orientation training to review the
members and to initiate our new members
so welcome all three of you maybe we can
do a little just introduction of who you
are and why you want to be on the
Commission oh you start you the first
one can we remind you that you need to
turn on your microphones when we're
sitting here
red lights have to be on all right
perfect
I'm Chris nice to meet everybody lived
here in Issaquah about a year and a half
now I applied to serve on the Planning
Policy Commission because I wanted an
opportunity to give back to my community
and learn more about how the community
works and how government works and I
just thought I could lend my voice to
improve the community and I'm excited to
get to know all of you more and work
with you more in this capacity thank you
yeah
my name is bill Reinert I've been here
in town for close to nine years also
joined the PBC to volunteer more be a
little more involved in decisions in the
community hi Jamie Rosen I've been in
Issaquah specifically in Highlands
for the last three years I've been in
the area for about 20 years and wanted
to join the Planning Policy commission
to help get involved with a lot of the
very important planning that's going on
for our city and so much the strategic
thinking that's going on and I'm really
feel like my
and experience hopefully can be helpful
to the team and I'm looking forward to
working with everyone so welcome to all
of you there is one new member that
isn't here tonight and he will join us
in July and then everybody can meet him
in July all the millions of people that
are watching us on television right now
so thank you for it's really funny you
know you all said that you wanted to get
involved in whatever I give you about
two months and you're just gonna get
sucked into everything so with that I'm
going to turn this over to Trish and let
us review what we're supposed to be
doing I'm planning policy and a couple
of wonderful housekeeping I wanted to
introduce Kristin Lisa and who's our
senior planner she makes up the other
half of the dynamic long range team the
other half being me we're still looking
for that perfect person to help us with
our projects but we will find that
person soon I'm sure so I didn't want
you all to wonder who is this wonderful
woman at the table she is Kristin Lisa
so two other things not quite as
exciting is that but the arch housing
tour is going on on Wednesday June 6th
from 5 from 5 to 8 and the RSVP is to be
in by May 30th I've handed out the
information it would be awesome if any
of you or all of you could go and learn
about how the region is dealing with
interesting and new designs and ideas
and strategies for affordable housing so
that's that's for you to think about and
hopefully go the other piece that you
get to be involved in is envisioning
Gilman Boulevard there's a survey online
right now and I'll pass these out so you
can take the survey and also someone who
I think will be Kristin will be sharing
some of the information in June and then
there's an open house July 11th at
Pickering barn that will also talk about
how we can all make our voices heard and
how Gilman Boulevard might be redesigned
reshaped re-envisioned for our future ok
you introduce the last person over here
in case our new in case anyone didn't
know Keith Niven who is our the director
of not only development services but
also of Economic Development Department
so he's the head of everything over in
City Hall Northwest and he also is going
to be the tour driver today so he can do
just about anything and this is joy okay
so now that joy is comfortable we're
going to separate you all into two teams
some with the rookies and we have to
have rookies and veterans on a team so
how how should we do that because we
only have an hour for the training
because we hope to be out on the tour by
7:30 ish so that will still have
sunlight so we're probably going to keep
doing training in June but we want to
get as far as we clear tonight one two
three four five yes to tease you yep
yes about you to take Chris and Jamie
I don't know how to do this joy okay
perfect see Kristen makes a decision
good job okay so this is the huge amount
of training that we're going to do and
it's really not all that much over and
join us what we're gonna do never mind
okay I love this what we're gonna do is
we're gonna have some some question
answers and and where's the demarcation
of the is you two are on different teams
it takes three four one two three four
okay I was just making sure were there
so there wasn't like a gray area I don't
want them to cheat kidding okay
I hope hopefully yeah you can phone a
friend so this is what we hope to get
through now and in June but we'll see
how fast we can go but always you can
stop us for questions because you won't
use all of this every meeting but you
might so just to remind you all the new
members are not official until June 14th
that'll be your first official meeting
and we're also going to have elections
that night probably after the park
strategic plan gets presented so cuz
Lindsey can't be there for a while we
want as many people there to talk about
elections as possible whoops
June 14th so open public meetings act ok
we're to start with this team over here
Ron Troy and Chris list to actions you
should never ever do just two actions
you can either talk amongst yourselves
or you can just shout wait
so Jamie's on that team okay I thought
that was the split okay
no it's been a long day probably guess
for you too
okay I'm not sure how much time we
should give him Kristen Kristen how much
time should we give up your summary okay
answer
are you the counter are you the time
counter ready okay do we have
answer yeah okay you want one or two
answers two to the one is meeting
outside of normal meeting times are
publicized meeting time as a group like
more than you or I was just waving and
it's just waiting okay and then the
second item would be a similar thing but
no group email discussions about topics
accident okay excellent okay does
everybody get that why we all need it
right right there's been some things
okay years and they get do they get a
prize so team to our team be whoever you
are
ethics list to actions you should never
ever ever do
already be made up to what you're
discussing coming into the meet after
the discussion and the voting and
everybody good one more
yep dev to who you should always
disclose any private interest that you
may have in a tough are you gonna talk
amongst yourselves
joy is her own team there you go you can
do that too just don't hit anybody so
we're just a private
you may have an axon that's in front of
you any questions about that a lot of
the ethics stuff is becoming sense okay
harassment freshmen for a team a one
name five of the eleven of the protected
classes that have protection against
harassment gender okay I'm sorry
gender religion race gender identity
sexual orientation I don't know age yeah
yeah giving it away sexual orientation
religion
economics Oh
how many'd you get it I don't know four
okay I'm team two can add any age over
forty yeah I don't think they got
ethnicity ethnicity
origin is what they are okay I was like
I don't have that okay creed color
citizenship status I think we got them
all any questions about that
awesome we just always need to be really
aware of the open meetings act just
always try to be aware of what you're
talking about when you're with folks
when you amongst yourselves and I'm
gonna do some what ifs hey Trish P yes
as far as open meetings act we want to
bring up the other discussion that we
had with females and that's what we're
on right now okay yeah so here's a
scenario not that this would ever happen
because we're really smart about all
this you get an email at each of you
gets an email from an advocacy group
that's wanting something done about some
project that's coming to you and that
you're gonna be hearing about can you
reply back and say you go for it I
totally agree with you hang in there or
can you write back just at PPC I totally
agree with this group I think they
should just stand tall can you do either
those for both of them right you can't
do either of those because those are a
violation of the Open Meetings Act what
you can do if you have to but we would
rather you not you can write back and
say thank you and that's all you can say
but we'd rather you not answer it at all
we would rather you let the staff answer
it or if you have questions about it you
can write just directly to staff not to
the whole group because that's a
conversation you can write back to us
and say
what should we do is this is this valid
or is this whatever questions you have
but please don't email to the group okay
are there questions on that because it's
so easy when you read something to just
go yeah or what do you think you know I
mean so just be really aware that we
were wearing your PPC hat you have to be
really careful about email don't hit the
replied yes correct
you do not do that correct correct
correct okay here's a good one
you're also on a board like mountains to
Sound Greenway what is the proper way
for you to talk about issues as a as a
PPC member and as a board of a member of
another place like would you say as a
PPC member I represent PPC's opinion
when I say this or would you say I'm a
PPC member and although I don't speak
for PPC my own opinion is this
individual opinion right you can say
that you're a member of PPC but you
don't ever represent them all by
yourself unless you're stating that we
voted on a recommendation and the vote
was this you can say that in a factual
way but you can't say I was talking to
my PPC buds and we think this you my
with disclosing PPC first before you
give your like we have one of our
favorite public folks is Mel Morgan and
he's on development Commission and he
comes up and he'll say I'm on the
development Commission but I'm speaking
as a private citizen so it keeps them
separate that he's not speaking for DC
he's speaking for and and it's just
really important to keep that clear
because in the past we've had folks on
PPC that say like to an editorial to the
paper or to an email to the paper that
they're representing PPC and so we've
gotten in a bit of a so we just want to
be sure that that that that and that was
that was a really good question you ask
because I don't think we talked about
that enough
I know right
they were they not representing our just
presenting okay that's right so it's
just different we're an advisory board
right whereas they're elected and so
they're put on those boards to represent
right the city right okay right good
question though good differentiation
okay cool
the next one would be four of you
inadvertently end up at concerts on the
green and you start chatting is that a
bad thing it's not unless you start
talking about whoa did you see the pack
up for next week what do you think about
XY and Z so certainly you can all meet
up places inadvertently but what about
the next one you all meet for coffee to
talk about a complicated topic yeah I
can't do that I can't do that unless you
advertise it in the paper and you know
we're just not gonna but just just be
careful about that
and this is about the email again what
if one of you goes to Portland and sees
a really cool affordable housing thing
that they do or cool something can you
email a link to everybody and say wow
this is a really cool thing I attended
it would be better if you because we
love that you're excited about that
would be better if you send it to us the
staff and then the staff sends it just
so there's no like reply like well it is
really cool when the discussion starts
so we love that you're interested but
just be really careful so here's a
tricky one last year we had to go behind
closed doors for 15 minutes what do you
think it could have been what would
allow us to go back there and close the
door not going to close ourselves
it was a violation we were told by the
attorney of a violation of an Open
Meetings Act and so I had to let
everybody know of what happened and how
not to do it again so it was just one of
those that I didn't we didn't want to do
that in public on TV but we it was one
of those gentle reminders that remember
we talked about this so it's the only
reason that we would all go back in the
room back there okay
so back to the quiz which team did we
end with so you guys okay PPC's main
reason for existence PPC serves as a and
I gave you some hints here with the red
letters they start with a P and a and a
B ha nice and the mayor and provides
guidance and direction guys are hot
through continued for its akua's age
your growth guys through continued
review and improvement to the operates a
plan yes and related and directions
really close
I think development regulations bonus
points if you can name one of the yellow
or one of the with the red the yellow
asterisks or the red one of the one of
the comprehensive plans or pieces the
central issyk-kul plan yeah say it
confidently Lindsay
like that because we just my
seven-year-old answer how about a red
one can you name it red one the red
aster what's the last word in that land
use I'm gonna say development regs I
should look at my development man did Oh
documents sorry I get penalized land use
documents is it what Oh cuz are you not
on so he can't hear you okay then that's
not always a bad thing right the
Issaquah Municipal Code which we call 18
and central Issaquah standards would be
the other the main ones okay did they
get a prize or we just leave in the
candy in between them okay okay so these
are the answers to that really hard
slide so here's another really hard one
for you guys a lot of folks get this
group confused with the Development
Commission but now that we don't have
any crossover members we're gonna have
to keep them straight all by ourselves
so the Development Commission is
different than we are and they review
land-use actions you know like they
actually like like Platts yeah you're
like construction kinds of things that
are going to turn into construction so
described in Luc what would that be yep
and
it's Christmas good
and they also serve as a blank to the
City Council on land-use actions what do
they serve as yes OCN even giving any
letters for that can you name an action
that they would have advised City
Council on no a project what's a project
nice I think they do Atlas tonight how
is peanut bonus how is DC different than
PPC give them some chocolate excellent
no I'm just kidding
why how are you guys different okay
right that's what I was looking for very
good very good she's studied for this
girl yes
so the first three gateway gateway
senior Atlas and Taco Time
DC made the recommend that they actually
made the final decision on the ones they
were advisory to council would be like
the schools they were master site plans
or like Bergsma they just looked at
Bergsma for a recommendation so very
very good you guys are doing good GMA is
anyone heard of growth Management Act
yay
so you guys bonus what year was it
enacted how many people were here in
1990 was here in 1900 okay Jonas here
okay good to know
okay what does it provide a framework
for what kind of coordination nice nice
and requires what to adopt or who to
adopt countywide planning policies
there's a clue in the question and the
county the county has to adopt
countywide policies but then we get to
weigh in on them and ratify them yep and
what does it require the establishment
of an enhance is the big red arrow
pointing to the big red line yes and why
do we care about that as Issaquah can
you see us in the boundary
of all the cities we have the most I
would say we have the most of our
boundary on the urban line so we're very
earthen and then there's yes and so we
have we all have always felt we have
more of a yes that's a good word to hold
the line to not let the line go into the
earth through the rural areas so I
wanted to be sure we mentioned that so
here are the answers you guys are way
too smart tonight which is really good
growth Management Act goals there are 14
named five shout them out because you
guys are so good you don't even need to
be in - yeah it's the first one yeah
yeah oh well yeah Environmental
Protection is that what you're going for
okay don't run with scissors yes right
right so they drew a line right well
there's a couple that deal with with
right
others Environment Protection open space
and recreation those work yep yep yes
concentration of urban growth that's
number two good
right and housing yeah affordable
housing yeah yeah yes yes about this
public facilities they want to be sure
that this is why it was great to not be
on camera because we just have property
rights is one of them that might be just
right in the middle of all of it but
these are all the reasons that all the
pieces that the state was trying to
achieve in 1990 these are all the high
hopes that they had of of why the state
needed some growth management because
people were coming and we weren't really
ready so well done you all and if we're
going too fast for the new folks you can
certainly stop us and ask us what we're
talking about or later you can ask us
you can always ask us but obviously that
everybody brought their egg game tonight
so very good this is another picture of
Issaquah and the urban growth boundary
and you can see to the west to the south
and to the east is all rural lands you
can see also they're very green and
wonderful and open most of them so the
city is very proud of that we only have
that kind of wood one potential
annexation area left to the west we we
lost half of it went went rural which
was good but we're still negotiating the
other half with King County
No okay here we go growth targets one of
our favorite thoughts the state mandated
growth targets are to establish a blank
as to how many new blank blank and blank
must be accommodated
any thoughts on those words good yes
baseline jobs jobs yeah yes excellent
bonus who knows what the dates are for
what the housing for what this housing
target is so you got your second one
right when we started this certain count
it's a long time ago seems like it
housing targets were given to us in 2006
he has a seven in it though that's good
how about jobs how many jobs were we
supposed to take a combat accommodate I
know whoops as soon as I said it I went
wrong to accommodate and it doesn't mean
we have to have them but our zoning has
to accommodate the housing units and the
jobs growth through the zoning the city
doesn't have to guarantee or we don't
have to provide them ourselves we just
have to have zoning that accommodates it
so that's kind of a fine-tuning of it
any idea of jobs you forgot what the
numbers 20,000 these jobs
okay any questions about our growth
targets you have data on where we're at
yes we're gonna do that in Shanghai
start the cut plan - ok annexations are
we getting close to 7:30 cuz stop me if
we're going over at 7:30 okay
my favorite 18 annexation since 1990
anybody here in 1990 who all was here in
1990 just Joan Joan we're awesome King
County Island
yeah we said South Dakota Providence
point Frank yeah
the Highlands which was known as blue
and lead or grand Ridge okay and it's on
the other side yeah yeah there's five
any others turn them out there the state
park oh that's one of my favorites Lake
State Park was very North hyssop ah yes
this is just since 1990 all the places
that are in color have and this is in
your comprehensive plan which is really
exciting
because I know you're gonna want to look
this up after you go home tonight these
are all of the things that we've annexed
just since 1990 just since this growth
management act started you can see we've
been very busy and this one blows my
head open this is all of our annexation
history this is also in the
comprehensive plan you can see our
original Township is just a little itty
bitty um in Old Town of course which is
why we we should call it maybe original
town that would be another thing but
just so you know we've been a very busy
community since the beginning of time
okay who are these groups and why do we
care I do love this slide name I think
we were getting tired by here no we
weren't we love these folks name an
activity where it's acual would work
with these agencies King County Metro
transportation yeah yeah anything else I
mean that's a big one but we also work
on annexations with them
and getting rid of potential annexation
air squeak work on that too how about
the Puget Sound Regional Council either
that with the Planning Council there the
Planning Board what would we do with
them
earth management yeah Richard Briana
we're doing our growth management
targets mm-hmm
they're the ones that told us that we
could be a regional growth Center so we
were money yes we do ask them we work
with them to get yes that's a better way
to say it but we do ask them for good
good so our regional course we have
central Issaquah you know our central
supplies mm-hmm okay so we have central
Issaquah and then starting at southeast
56 northeast 56 right by Costco and
going about over to the Creek
Pickering down south of i90 to maple and
Newport and then up Newport and then
over - do you know where the rally
properties are just west of us are 900
oh there we go that's our that is our
there you know growth center right there
and what that means is once we became a
regional growth center we had to set
target specific to that area but we also
become eligible for funds for import
infrastructure that we would not
typically be eligible for yep and a
train station which brings us to well
next bullet some transit what do we do
it down yes and st3 which will bring us
the rail station in 2041
well time that'll be the slide yes yes
yes there's so much to do how could we
leave won't you you're gonna be there
for the ribbon-cutting right no a
regional coalition for housing arch what
do you think we do with them yes where's
the Gilman thing Oh sound cities
Association what may be do with them
planning business right there 37 cities
and that we do advocacy at a state level
with them with between economic things
and Community Development and we just
sort of also together I'm sorry we get
together and work together on all sorts
of things and the joint recommendation
committee what do we do with them it's
for housing its to get more housing
funds excellent and there are all the
answers how are we doing anybody lost
yet we're just getting started
okay huh the comprehensive plan gotta
love this what is this but is the
comprehensive plan okay I'll ask it
again what does it do it establishes
overarching blank blank and blank for
the way the city will blank grow okay
we'll start from the egg sorry goals
actions and goals what do we just do
such a vision was that aha moment I'm
gonna say goals well okay and policies
yeah policies are in there there are
nine elements in the plan name five I
was in yes
good one ability no economic viability
yes - Troyes - four - yes three
excellent holding Cydia a cent housing
yeah Oh choice of housing but yes jobs
why is my capital facility so I'll give
you credit for that something fun yes
yes guys are good
now land use code very different than
the comp plan very different yet
connected blank see the blanks above
adopted in the Comprehensive Plan so
what would it do for the Comprehensive
Plan how do they how do they work
together it's how we implement the
competence yes exactly
it's it's the teeth for to get the
policies and the goals and the vision
very good there are nineteen this is a
kind of a funny one there are 19
chapters in the land-use code we're
really reaching for this can you name
five chapters what would be things that
we would look at in the land-use code
that our code kinds of things you just
worked on several of them that has
initials like design standard or oh well
our architectural what's the yeah yeah
yeah and what's something you guys just
did with initials so there's a whole
thing on standards how high how tall how
what else might be in there parking
parking yes I need yes
I'm good I don't know how to they're not
it's very good for charades the language
like the sidewalks and mobility or
something right right that would work
but anything you would look on for site
development so it would be anything to
do with permeable surfaces no stop right
there's a there's an environmental
chance right right and then you guys are
good so these are all versions the
chapters of the land use code are on one
side and the so you can see how they
would go together generally how the land
use code pieces implement the pieces of
the comp plan and this is an example
we're encouraging the encouraging you
know we use those kind of words in the
plan we encourage we create we
facilitate we all those kind of words
and then the land use code should say
shall you do this you do that you've
shelter this you may not do that you
cannot you know so it's very
black-and-white hopefully the code
because that's where our teeth are and
yet the comp plane is more aspirational
and guiding and visionary so that's the
difference and it's sometimes really
hard to keep them separate because
sometimes we'd like with the vision we
just sort of blended them and had a lot
of the vision in it but we also had some
teeth in it as well so that's we're
hoping that works really well to blend
them like that any questions on this can
you talk about PPC's relationship and
how we interact with the comprehensive
plan versus the land use code yes and
you do both in the beginning of the year
speaking of the comprehensive plan first
we're only allowed to by state law we're
only allowed to amend the comprehensive
plan once a year so in January we bring
a list of amendments to you all we call
that the docket it's really just a list
but it has a fancy name and that's where
we decide all of the pieces and parts we
want to amend that year and that goes
through council and they bless it and so
if somebody comes in
June and wants a different amendment or
another amendment we can't put it on the
docket till the next year and that's
according to the state that keeps
everyone looking at all the amendments
all at once comprehensively and not just
one at a time and not looking at them
all together so that's the comp plan and
you all are totally in charge of
recommendations and looking at the comp
plan amendments when code amendments
come through we're allowed to amend the
code whenever and however we want as
often as we want time permitting staff
permitting and so when those come to you
like with accessory dwelling units that
you just saw they either come to us
through the council has issues with
something and they ask the mayor to put
it on our work plan or we find through
applicants that we work with that
there's issues in the code that we need
to deal with it's maybe not clear and
off or it maybe it can it's conflicting
with something else then we would bring
those to you and you would recommend to
the council the changes that you've
decided on and that goes through the
council and then we keep you up to date
on what councils done with your
recommendations and that's usually on
the last sheet in your packet although
this week's it's in the middle but we
try to keep you apprised of how council
is working through your items is that
Lindsay what you were getting at how
does the comprehensive plan tie in or
relate to the vision the vision is in
the comprehensive plan and the central
Issaquah plan is a sub area of the big
comprehensive plan and also the old town
sub area plan is our two sub area plans
that we have in the city the old town
was first and we're updating that one
now and the reason we were hoping that
the new folks could go on the tour is
that the public hearing is in June and
we didn't want you all to come in cold
to the public hearing where we're hoping
if you're able that you'd make a
recommendation to council but we didn't
want your first meeting to be having to
make a recommendation on something that
you're just seeing something and if
we're not ready in June then we don't
have to be ready but we just thought we
would we would try to get everybody
ready
Patricia it would be really nice if you
could
to link to the comprehensive plan and
the land use code tutor members so that
they have that as a full reference point
sure yes
yeah so you'll have all the answers as
long as you don't share it with Jane
Jason who will be coming in July and we
will make sure that he takes this watch
this video that's true we may have to
think of new questions we're gonna make
him do it by himself on camera next
meeting good like jeopardy have an
answer all encodes okay excellent
you guys have good good questions oh I
think I already set all this stuff okay
there have been oh this is a good one
there have been for planning
implementation activities are evolving
around Old Town do you guys remember
what they have been including the one
that you're in the middle of now can you
name another one
there's the streetscape plan yeah yep
and there was also the stormwater that
was going on for a while and then before
that what did we call the Andrea's group
that started started the ball rolling in
Sunset yes and we sent out this cute
little postcard to everybody and those
were the four things that we're going on
we try to keep people involved this is
Old Town the green blob and where it
fits into the city and this is where the
tour is going to be tonight and the
standards which is not in the new
standards but this isn't the existing
standards and then how it relates to the
actually specific design standards so
again there's aspirational with the plan
and then more black and white teeth
kinds of things in the code in the
design standards so that's how they're
different and hopefully I'm not going to
say hopefully we will be working on
amendments to these next year based on
what the REC
nations have been in the plan so far any
questions on that hey look we're done
with this
as of Monday night the city is
officially or unofficially is it
official done with the moratorium they
adapted the vision I will send you the
link of the new visions although that
they don't take effect until August
because because we have some more things
to do it'll be okay but we adopted the
visions and the ad use and storage and
storage units but not on hotels so those
were the big three that PPC worked on
that went to Council in council took
action
so that was pretty exciting so I named a
few of the six items what are three
items that are not the vision that you
all worked on every blasted one of them
ding yes what kind of parking structure
yes what else did you guys work on for
the moratorium for design or area regime
no density went to words to words how
many syllables yeah it was a tricky one
what else did you guys work on remember
affordable housing that one these were
the six and you worked on and as Keith's
email said your fingerprints were all
over all of these not just the vision
thank you
hopefully we won't have anything quite
that intense but we might know we're
ready
central is taqwa' if you all just worked
on this for a long long time the
boundaries now are
the same as on this picture so I'm just
going to click right through it again
the plan has those chapters or elements
or whatever we call them and then the
standards which have the teeth have 17
now they have 18 because architecture
old design standards are chapter 18 of
the standards so we'll be delving into
those kind of cleaning them up now that
we have all new pieces in there we kind
of have to make sure they all really fit
really well so those are the two
different pieces for that and it so send
a link to the sims first yeah I see yes
four I'm going to just say everything
and this because this is all on it this
is one of the slides and this is again
how there's general in the plan
aspirational but the green necklace
which is another great piece you all
worked on and then how the standards
talked about the green necklace and
parks and that kind of thing and how
they're connected but they're different
okay no that's coming to great question
that's coming to you for a public
hearing on June I think is it 14th the
next meeting me now 28 it's the first
meeting of that it's the same night that
we do elections so that will be a great
night but that's the big big strategic
plan this is from the central plan this
was one of the visions of the central
plant can you tell where it is no can
you tell the building in the foreground
Oh mm-hmm head top on it
no yes yes that's the future yes and
then this one this was what we thought
another corner should look like anyone
recognize it and the third one you can
still see the forested hillsides and
corner there in the middle nice you guys
are wait we're gonna have to be harder
next time a typical year we talked about
this a little bit with a jacket the list
it comes out you review on you we do
interviews for new rock stars to join
our group in April and May and then we
look at the Transportation Improvement
Program which is all the list of
transportation projects that we hope to
achieve in the next six years then we
review all the complan and code
amendments through June through August
and then we make all our recommendations
to the council and then once we've got
that going to Council then we start back
into code amendments that's a piece of
cake with all over again and then we
throw a moratorium into everything and
yes just to make it super interesting
any questions about the typical year
right and the other piece while we're
talking about meetings is we hope that
all the alternate members will always
come to all the meetings you are always
welcome
we all during a regular typical meeting
we all sit up in the front you all get
to talk you all get to talk and discuss
and all those things the only thing
alternates cannot do if there's enough
if there's a quorum and then if there's
seven members is you can't actually make
a motion or vote but we will note your
comments in the minutes so that that
folks know sort of how that what
everybody's thinking and so we want you
to know that you're super important like
all the other like everyone else but
there's just that little tricky thing
about voting but wanted to to put that
out there this is a page a typical page
of the docket I will also send around
the docket and hopefully no one will
fall over
but this is sort of what the docket
looks like it has the items who's
supposed to work on it why we do it is
it a new one is it an old one that we do
every year that kind of thing this is
this is I think that was taken out I
think we're taking it out aren't we
yeah we're revising it to take the
moment we've been we're supposed to
propose to take that out yeah typical
meeting yeah their typical aren't they
you do the minutes like you did tonight
then we present a topic we hear public
comment from all the people here then we
discuss the topic some more one of the
members regular members makes a motion
you talk about the motion there might be
second you know so it goes along
Robert's Rules of Order the in their
packet there's the whole bylaws that's
very technical about what we do what
kind of a laid-back group work not as
technical as that made us sound but
we're very organized but the really cool
thing is if you're not here you can
actually see all the fun that we've had
by looking at the YouTube channel on the
city website which is usually up and
running the next morning if not that
night wes is super great at getting it
up right away if you were like you know
babysitting or something you can't be
here you can usually click on that night
and it's it's up and running and if you
are not here we would expect that to
come to the next meeting that you would
have watched all the meetings that you
didn't go to and made sure that you were
up to speed on the information in the
packet so that everybody voting and
discussing has all the same information
that's really important the mayor's
stressed that when we talked to her
about the bylaws that that's just a
given that everybody should be up to
speed on everything please let us know
if you're not going to be here when we
send out that notice right away it's
usually Thursdays or Fridays if we're
running late if you could let us know as
soon as you can that you be there and
you're not going to be here that helps
us understand if we have a quorum or not
so that we can vote if it's a public
hearing okay that's just super helpful
to us
Trish is it still true we have
you and Dominique know it's the best
that way in case she's gone her I'm gone
at least one of us will know and I had
and I wanted one Jason's here I'll give
my cell phone too because sometimes I
leave you know early to get here and
then if you've emailed me that you're
not going to be here I wouldn't get it
but I'll give you cell phone only to
tell me if you're not going to be ok
don't be texting me on the weekends with
no any questions about meetings voting
anything like that these are the how do
I Lindsey was saying that the comp plan
and the codes they're all on the website
and I can send you some information on
how to get there
the major projects map and list if
you're driving by and you see a
construction site or you see a big sign
you can go on our city map and you can
see exactly what's going on and what
documents have come in for that site and
which ones are new which documents are
new or not there's a place on the
website you can subscribe subscribe to
updates so they have like the community
events concerts on the green the farmers
market or planning issues road closures
I mean there's all sorts of things
there's a whole list of things that you
can subscribe for updates on the website
it's really pretty great sometimes I
hear more of my news through the website
update than I do from just walking
around the office and again if you want
to watch a PPC member PPC meeting again
or council meeting or council committee
meeting they're all on the YouTube
channel and they're sometimes they're
fun to watch again sometimes they might
be a little painful to watch again but
it's still the right thing is you can
watch them at 2 times speed
I do that all the time it shortens a
three hour meeting to an hour and a half
oh I see there you have some advice from
my matter I wouldn't have thought that
but that's really good with the new all
the new moratorium pieces that we've
done we're hoping to do a sample project
to development commission to have a
sample site plan and say this is how the
new parking vertical makes use all the
pieces fit into a new site plan and
we're I'm hoping that we invite you all
to be in the audience so that you can
see how all your good work turned into
an actual project but that's coming soon
we don't know have we don't have a date
for that yet questions comments did we
really get done in an hour
so what I can't see the fun it's only
seven twenty five nice job
anything else - any questions is there
any difference to our we had a
discussion about like excused absence
recording that was going to be changing
as far as like and then in the bylaws I
believe it mentioned five days well
there are five days is for regular like
ones that you know of right now like I
have to go out of town on business so
I'm going to be gone but if like
something awful happens which we hope
nothing ever awful but all of a sudden
like you're stuck at an airport and you
can't what ever happened as long as you
notify us right away that's still
excused but if you just don't show am i
yeah then when we're doing it the way
the council does it that it's unexcused
and I think if there's three that the
mayor can decide to but hopefully we
would never get to that but the thing I
would say is that almost all of our
meetings are here but sometimes they're
in other places now being somebody who
shows up here sometimes like where is
everybody
right and we try to we try to write
because I don't
I don't read the thing to cover right
and I tried no just the front page
versus the location
I always just once here I'm trying to
see where there's a schedule in your
packet it's usually at the end and now
that it's not at the end I can't find it
yeah it looks like this one and it's
always completely accurate well I'll say
it's accurate when I printed it but
often things change and meeting topics
move around but at least there's a
guesstimate of what we're talking about
on any given night and so sometimes
you'll already know that while in
October I'm not going to be here I'm
going to be in Pasadena and then just
let us know so that we can say well
someone's in Pasadena so we might not
have a quorum that night if everybody is
in Pasadena that night but it's just
sort of a way that for you to orient
your schedules to know that things are
going on
any other questions do you want to make
the announcement about the tour to make
sure that we understand all the things
about Old Town that we are going to be
discussing in the future and so we will
be leaving here shortly
and not coming back here to city to
council chamber so if anybody wants to
follow us and we tour along or to meet
up with us at any time
the map of our or is online in the pack
access it there or we have paper copies
source here for our viewing oh we do
have a viewing audience okay and that's
right and so everybody take your stuff
because we'll all be locked up close use
this is a meeting and close this meeting
or we just going to get up and leave I
think because it's the schedule says we
adjourn in the parking lot after but I
think would be better to adjourn
I think we should adjourn now this part
this part of the meeting we will be
right yeah so it's still a commercial
mission meeting but there it won't be
recorded okay thank you for saying that
I would if I got in trouble
you