Environmental Board · Wednesday, June 14, 2023 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of May 10, 2023

packet pp.3–5

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 05-10-23 Environmental Board Minutes Page [1] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental Board 6:30 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. May 10, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

4. AGENDA ITEMS

Welcome New Board Members

Information · Jamie Finch, Board Chair · packet pp.7–20

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Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

Open Government Training

Information · Tisha Gieser, City Clerk · packet pp.21–35

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Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

King County Metro Shuttle Program

Information · John Larson-Friend, Transportation Coordinator Meredith Sampson, King County Metro · packet pp.37–113

Topics: Transportation

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Staff report:

Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

Climate Vulnerability Assessment Draft Policies (D)

Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager

Topics: Climate

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5. REPORTS

LEED for Cities Certification

packet pp.115–124

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DATE: June 14, 2023

6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

Updated Board Schedule

packet pp.125–128

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0:02 ↗ foreign

0:11 ↗ all right welcome to the June 14th

0:14 ↗ meeting of the school environmental

0:16 ↗ board I am Jamie Finch and I'll be your

0:18 ↗ chair tonight

0:19 ↗ um due to the hybrid nature of this

0:21 ↗ meeting we will have some members

0:22 ↗ attending in person and others by

0:23 ↗ computer or phone for those attending

0:26 ↗ remotely please view your microphone

0:29 ↗ when you're not speaking if you have a

0:31 ↗ desire to speak actually the teams

0:33 ↗ what's the raise your hand that we want

0:36 ↗ to use yes

0:38 ↗ um yeah please raise your hand and Stacy

0:41 ↗ and I will do our best

0:43 ↗ um but uh if you are not getting called

0:45 ↗ on you might just have to pop in

0:48 ↗ um we're usually pretty good though so

0:50 ↗ um

0:51 ↗ and then anyone that is in person as we

0:54 ↗ typically do but for new members if you

0:57 ↗ have a desire to speak just on your uh

1:00 ↗ name tag over like this and then we will

1:03 ↗ take questions some presenters take

1:05 ↗ questions right during the presentation

1:07 ↗ some will wait until the end so we'll

1:10 ↗ usually try to get that scored away

1:12 ↗ before we start reception

1:15 ↗ um

1:16 ↗ and when we have certain topics

1:20 ↗ um that uh are going to council we will

1:23 ↗ try to summarize agreement or

1:26 ↗ summarize the discussion

1:29 ↗ um and then we'll really have that

1:31 ↗ basically presented to the board as a as

1:33 ↗ a summary that you guys can amend uh

1:36 ↗ I have some reason it's not sufficient

1:40 ↗ um I think with that Stacy if you want

1:41 ↗ to take us through

1:44 ↗ importance

1:46 ↗ uh Tommy Henderson

1:48 ↗ here Davidson here Amy Finch here

1:56 ↗ uh

1:59 ↗ here's Ashford

2:04 ↗ Don McWilliams has an excuse to absence

2:14 ↗ here

2:17 ↗ all right

2:19 ↗ um with that we will go to the minutes

2:23 ↗ um do we have any comments on the

2:24 ↗ minutes that were in our packets

2:29 ↗ foreign none those are approved by

2:32 ↗ unanimous consent

2:34 ↗ um Stacy do we have anyone signed up

2:36 ↗ to speak public comments no we did not

2:39 ↗ receive any written comments and uh no

2:42 ↗ uh interest from our member of the

2:45 ↗ public and students

2:47 ↗ all right with that we will move into

2:49 ↗ our agenda items and the next one is an

2:51 ↗ exciting one which is welcome our new

2:54 ↗ numbers we have Alex and Dixie

2:58 ↗ um we'll go around the room and I think

2:59 ↗ when you guys go just maybe a little bit

3:02 ↗ more background I think for us what will

3:04 ↗ maybe current board members and City

3:07 ↗ staff maybe name and your favorite like

3:11 ↗ natural environment item in the City of

3:14 ↗ Issaquah

3:15 ↗ um

3:16 ↗ for example I'll go first my name is

3:19 ↗ Jamie Finch the big tree is my favorite

3:23 ↗ uh thing in the environment so maybe

3:26 ↗ we'll start with Stacy and then go

3:27 ↗ around and then for Dixie and Alex if

3:31 ↗ you guys could just share a little bit

3:32 ↗ about your short synopsis of your

3:34 ↗ background and what has you excited

3:36 ↗ about joining the board

3:40 ↗ uh Stacy been mckinstry the city

3:43 ↗ sustainability manager and then stack

3:45 ↗ leaders on to the environmental board

3:47 ↗ um my favorite is we call it the Indiana

3:50 ↗ Jones trail out on tiger it's the one

3:53 ↗ that has the big Taos rocks and the Moss

3:56 ↗ and the caves

3:58 ↗ um to that area

4:02 ↗ on the border of us

4:04 ↗ uh David Reedy of sustainability

4:07 ↗ coordinator

4:08 ↗ um and all working here I'll say just

4:10 ↗ the bike path that's right by City Hall

4:14 ↗ uh it's a great 50-minute break from

4:17 ↗ work if I need to just think about

4:18 ↗ things so

4:22 ↗ Annika

4:24 ↗ award since the beginning and there's so

4:27 ↗ many amazing places it Issaquah it's

4:29 ↗ hard to choose but lately be really

4:31 ↗ attached to bergston park and

4:34 ↗ we adopted it so the forest Steward

4:37 ↗ there the Israel's Club adopted it so

4:39 ↗ we've been getting real connected with

4:41 ↗ it it's a beautiful

4:44 ↗ uh Joy Lewis and I would uh hearken to

4:48 ↗ Bluey and my five-year-old to say the

4:50 ↗ creek is beautiful

4:53 ↗ uh Dixie bear and this stuff I realize I

4:56 ↗ don't get out much

4:57 ↗ um I uh I would just say actually the

5:00 ↗ views so

5:01 ↗ um just even looking around I think we

5:03 ↗ just have beautiful thinking

5:05 ↗ um a little bit about me I own small

5:07 ↗ threads for kids in Issaquah we've been

5:09 ↗ open for almost 15 years

5:12 ↗ um through other locations as well so my

5:15 ↗ whole life is about sustainability

5:17 ↗ um and hopefully teaching other people

5:18 ↗ to participate in the process

5:20 ↗ um I'm excited to be here because I

5:23 ↗ um like Joyce tell people if you want to

5:24 ↗ make a change you got to be you got to

5:26 ↗ do something and and we do do that every

5:28 ↗ day but like I've never really done it

5:30 ↗ in this capacity so I'm excited to you

5:32 ↗ know kind of learn more about the behind

5:33 ↗ the scenes and how things work on the

5:36 ↗ back side to really make some change so

5:39 ↗ uh thanks for having me

5:41 ↗ I'm Nancy Davidson and the thing I like

5:44 ↗ best I'll have to copy joy I love the

5:47 ↗ grapes and the rivers

5:53 ↗ stream sport before this and uh

5:58 ↗ there are so many things I like about

6:00 ↗ the Esquire area it's hard to choose

6:05 ↗ yeah I guess I like

6:09 ↗ I'm Tom Anderson I've been on the

6:11 ↗ environmental board since the beginning

6:13 ↗ and one of my favorite little spots is

6:16 ↗ Ruth's Cove on the Tiger Mountain trail

6:18 ↗ on Tiger Mountain

6:24 ↗ okay I'm a visitor of the geezers I love

6:28 ↗ that I can be on a trail from a short

6:30 ↗ five minute walk from City Hall pretty

6:33 ↗ awesome

6:34 ↗ I am also a visitor in John Larson

6:36 ↗ friend a translation Program Coordinator

6:38 ↗ at the city

6:40 ↗ um I have to kind of mirror David I

6:43 ↗ think I really love the the rails the

6:45 ↗ trails uh path that we have I was at

6:48 ↗ Public Works last week and they had like

6:50 ↗ the whole original plot map out and you

6:53 ↗ know there's the railroad right through

6:54 ↗ there so it was really cool anyway

6:57 ↗ I will move to remote

7:01 ↗ service

7:04 ↗ thank you my name

7:06 ↗ I am the coordinator for the Lake

7:09 ↗ Sammamish Urban Wildlife Refuge

7:11 ↗ partnership and I'm employed by child

7:12 ↗ unlimited so I work with a number of

7:14 ↗ different conservation organizations in

7:17 ↗ the area to encourage folks to care for

7:19 ↗ the weeks of Amish Watershed through

7:21 ↗ stewardship and conservation efforts and

7:23 ↗ my backgrounds in biology and Marine

7:24 ↗ Biology and Environmental Education

7:27 ↗ um so hopefully you'll get to see me

7:28 ↗ around at events throughout the

7:30 ↗ Watershed here

7:31 ↗ um doing trash cleanups and plantings

7:33 ↗ and things like that and I think I have

7:35 ↗ to say that Lake Sammamish is probably

7:36 ↗ my favorite outdoor Natural Area and

7:40 ↗ especially Tibbetts Creek in Lake

7:41 ↗ Sammamish State Park as we're doing some

7:43 ↗ habitat restoration projects there so

7:45 ↗ really getting to spend some time in the

7:47 ↗ state park and enjoy the beautiful Lake

7:49 ↗ that we have

7:52 ↗ Rush

7:57 ↗ hi I'm praj I am I recently joined the

8:01 ↗ environmental board this is my second

8:02 ↗ meeting

8:04 ↗ um and I have lived in issaquah's area

8:06 ↗ for close to 15 16 years now and I like

8:11 ↗ like everybody said you know just the

8:14 ↗ trails and the preserves and

8:16 ↗ um I just like it you know you can just

8:18 ↗ walk out in five minutes and get to any

8:20 ↗ Trails

8:21 ↗ um my favorite Trail is Rainier Trail

8:23 ↗ it's short and you can choose to go

8:26 ↗ further or not

8:28 ↗ um that's pretty much it

8:32 ↗ Ashwin

8:34 ↗ my name is Ashwin this is my second

8:36 ↗ meeting in the environmental board and

8:39 ↗ my favorite

8:40 ↗ environmental parts of Issaquah are

8:42 ↗ definitely the hiking trails in Lake

8:44 ↗ cement

8:48 ↗ all right thank you everyone and welcome

8:50 ↗ to Alex and Dixie

8:53 ↗ um I think with that we will move to the

8:55 ↗ next agenda item open government

8:56 ↗ training which I think Tisha will be

9:01 ↗ to show the slides are moving a little

9:04 ↗ slow earlier so just okay thank you

9:28 ↗ all right well hello uh everyone

9:30 ↗ especially to the new members uh the the

9:33 ↗ returning members uh know me well

9:36 ↗ because this is a training that we offer

9:37 ↗ our advisory boards every year so thank

9:40 ↗ you returning members for bearing with

9:42 ↗ me for I'll try and be quick and get

9:44 ↗ this done in about 10 minutes here

9:47 ↗ um but I in the city clerk at Issaquah

9:49 ↗ and one of my responsibilities is to

9:51 ↗ ensure that our city council and

9:53 ↗ boarding commission members receive open

9:56 ↗ government training this is a

9:58 ↗ requirement under Washington state law

10:00 ↗ to receive some information on two

10:03 ↗ particular state laws that apply to

10:05 ↗ volunteers on our advisory boards so I

10:10 ↗ will be going through uh quickly the

10:13 ↗ open public meetings Act and the public

10:15 ↗ records Act

10:17 ↗ and uh new members please or returning

10:19 ↗ members please feel free to interrupt

10:22 ↗ with any questions

10:24 ↗ so uh the reason we do this training is

10:27 ↗ to give you some knowledge about how how

10:30 ↗ government works and some potential

10:33 ↗ impacts or experiences you'll have as an

10:36 ↗ Advisory Board member and to reduce

10:39 ↗ mitigation risk and potential litigation

10:43 ↗ and decrease the opportunity for

10:45 ↗ violations of either of these acts

10:48 ↗ so we'll start with the open public

10:50 ↗ meetings act so it it means what the

10:54 ↗ name implies and that is that all of the

10:57 ↗ meetings of the environmental board need

10:59 ↗ to be open to the public this means that

11:02 ↗ we in our physical space we need to have

11:04 ↗ an open door in the virtual space we

11:07 ↗ publish the meeting passwords and links

11:10 ↗ so the public can join virtually or

11:12 ↗ attend in person

11:14 ↗ um this means for your tours of the

11:16 ↗ Recology and Cedar Grove facilities that

11:19 ↗ we will accommodate the public on those

11:21 ↗ tours if they choose to attend because a

11:23 ↗ quorum of your board will potentially be

11:26 ↗ there and anytime a quorum of you for a

11:30 ↗ nine-member board your Quorum is five

11:33 ↗ are together and talking about City

11:36 ↗ business that is considered a meeting so

11:38 ↗ we'll talk about a few things to just be

11:41 ↗ aware of in that regard

11:43 ↗ um but we we work hard to make sure the

11:45 ↗ public knows about your meetings and

11:46 ↗ knows where to be and has open access to

11:49 ↗ them

11:50 ↗ uh you will occasionally have special

11:53 ↗ meetings

11:54 ↗ um again under State lot your special

11:56 ↗ meetings are meetings that are held

11:58 ↗ outside of your regular published

12:00 ↗ schedule and uh something to know about

12:02 ↗ special meetings is that when you have a

12:06 ↗ special meeting you're limited to

12:07 ↗ discussing items on that published

12:09 ↗ agenda so at a regular meeting

12:12 ↗ conceivably someone could bring up a new

12:15 ↗ agenda item and that would be

12:17 ↗ appropriate

12:18 ↗ um if there was a majority of the board

12:20 ↗ that agreed to discuss that item but

12:22 ↗ that is not okay in a special meeting I

12:24 ↗ think the idea is that the public needs

12:27 ↗ to be aware and have maximum

12:29 ↗ opportunities to attend your meetings

12:31 ↗ and hear the discussion and so they're

12:33 ↗ more likely to be aware of your

12:35 ↗ published regular monthly meetings and

12:38 ↗ then you're I'm sure you're all aware of

12:40 ↗ your regular meeting schedule which is

12:43 ↗ the second Wednesday 6 30 here at

12:45 ↗ Tibbetts Banner

12:46 ↗ foreign so we're also required to

12:49 ↗ publish an agenda for your meetings

12:52 ↗ um we we are required to publish and

12:54 ↗ distribute those 24 hours in advance but

12:56 ↗ I know Stacy works hard to get you your

12:59 ↗ agenda materials much further in advance

13:01 ↗ of that so that you have some time to

13:03 ↗ digest the material and come prepared

13:05 ↗ and that's a a goal we have across all

13:08 ↗ our advisory boards and the public is

13:11 ↗ always uh welcome to the meetings public

13:13 ↗ comment isn't mandatory but it's

13:15 ↗ something we encourage at all our board

13:18 ↗ meetings and it's a standing item on

13:20 ↗ your agenda

13:22 ↗ um just one comment there are some

13:24 ↗ exceptions to having these open meetings

13:27 ↗ um these These are these exceptions are

13:29 ↗ most typical uh by our city council but

13:33 ↗ if uh there's a need to discuss

13:35 ↗ something of a highly sensitive nature

13:37 ↗ like uh potential litigation or the

13:40 ↗ purchase of a property or a collective

13:41 ↗ bargaining agreement then there those

13:44 ↗ are some reasons that the meeting can be

13:46 ↗ closed to the public but again it's not

13:48 ↗ likely to occur at your board meetings

13:53 ↗ so uh there's really two things uh that

13:57 ↗ I want you to think about let me make

13:58 ↗ sure I'm not jumping ahead yes I am I'm

14:00 ↗ jumping ahead so

14:02 ↗ um

14:03 ↗ your your Quorum is the number of

14:06 ↗ members you need to have a meeting so

14:08 ↗ it's important for your meeting to start

14:10 ↗ there need to be five of you present and

14:13 ↗ if some regular members are not in

14:14 ↗ attendance the alternate members can

14:16 ↗ fill in for them

14:18 ↗ um if you are traveling or having a

14:22 ↗ social Gathering outside of a meeting

14:24 ↗ where five of you five or more of you

14:26 ↗ want to be that is fine but when you're

14:28 ↗ in those situations just avoid talking

14:30 ↗ about which I'm sure is really hard and

14:32 ↗ avoid talking about environmental issues

14:34 ↗ that relate to the City of Issaquah

14:36 ↗ which is hard right because you all

14:38 ↗ share a common passion there but um that

14:40 ↗ is the rule of thumb the ideas the

14:42 ↗ public should be able to be present

14:44 ↗ anytime you're talking about things

14:46 ↗ related to your role on the board

14:48 ↗ all right so these are the two things I

14:51 ↗ I want to touch on the serial meeting

14:53 ↗ and actually one to touch on one other

14:55 ↗ situation that can arise that could be a

14:58 ↗ violation of this open meetings Act

15:01 ↗ so one is the serial meeting and this um

15:04 ↗ this is a New Concept to me when I

15:06 ↗ started working at the city but there

15:08 ↗ has been some case law around this and

15:10 ↗ the idea is that

15:13 ↗ we don't want five of you meeting

15:15 ↗ outside of a meeting to discuss

15:17 ↗ environmental issues related to the city

15:19 ↗ we also don't want a string of you to be

15:22 ↗ discussing uh environmental issues

15:25 ↗ relating to the city outside of a

15:27 ↗ meeting so what this looks like is if

15:29 ↗ maybe one of you emails another member

15:32 ↗ expressing an opinion about a current or

15:35 ↗ upcoming agenda item and that email gets

15:38 ↗ forwarded to one or two other members

15:40 ↗ who might add their perspective which

15:43 ↗ then gets forwarded to a fourth and

15:45 ↗ fifth member so you have this email that

15:47 ↗ sort of contains the input of five board

15:53 ↗ members and that could be considered a

15:55 ↗ violation of the open public meetings

15:56 ↗ act because there are five of you

15:58 ↗ discussing

15:59 ↗ um in writing a particular policy issue

16:03 ↗ so with email we ask that you um do not

16:06 ↗ email opinions related to issues on your

16:10 ↗ agenda you save your opinions for the

16:12 ↗ meetings if you want to share some

16:14 ↗ information with the board we recommend

16:16 ↗ you do that by emailing Stacy or David

16:18 ↗ and having them disseminate that and

16:21 ↗ avoid replying all

16:23 ↗ the same situation can occur verbally by

16:26 ↗ the phone over the phone where if you're

16:28 ↗ discussing with other board members and

16:30 ↗ then sharing their perspectives or yours

16:33 ↗ with other members and collectively

16:35 ↗ there gets to be five ideas that are

16:38 ↗ being talked about outside of a meeting

16:40 ↗ so if you want to pick one or two people

16:42 ↗ on the board that you want to be

16:44 ↗ connected with outside of the meeting to

16:45 ↗ run things by that is great just keep

16:48 ↗ that number of people you're talking to

16:50 ↗ less than five and uh we encourage you

16:54 ↗ to save a more substantive conversations

16:56 ↗ for the meetings

16:58 ↗ and then the last situation I want to

17:00 ↗ mention which comes up sometimes with

17:02 ↗ the environmental board are Regional

17:04 ↗ local or Regional events where

17:06 ↗ environmental issues are being discussed

17:08 ↗ our preference would be that you

17:10 ↗ designate a few people to attend and

17:12 ↗ report back rather than having five of

17:14 ↗ you attend however if there's something

17:16 ↗ particularly locally where it's just

17:19 ↗ really important and I think we've

17:20 ↗ noticed I feel like we've noticed

17:22 ↗ something in the past I'm struggling to

17:24 ↗ recall the event but if it's really

17:26 ↗ important for the board to be there

17:27 ↗ we'll go ahead and notice it as a

17:28 ↗ special

17:30 ↗ yeah so I would assume most of the

17:32 ↗ people in this room go to Salmon days

17:34 ↗ right

17:35 ↗ so we're more worried about smaller

17:38 ↗ venues where you might be together and

17:40 ↗ where there would be Environmental

17:42 ↗ Policy issues that's where we're what

17:44 ↗ we're more concerned about so if there

17:46 ↗ was a local like round table or

17:48 ↗ discussion hosted by Highlands

17:50 ↗ counselors or uh environment

17:54 ↗ yes

17:55 ↗ um that would be a situation we'd prefer

17:57 ↗ that maybe you talk at your meeting and

17:59 ↗ see if there's two or three of you going

18:01 ↗ great if there's five of you that really

18:04 ↗ want to go

18:05 ↗ um let Stacy know and we might go ahead

18:07 ↗ and just notice that as a as a meaning

18:09 ↗ to be

18:11 ↗ um kind of safe that we've just provided

18:14 ↗ and all notice that we expect five of

18:17 ↗ you to be there so and you can always

18:19 ↗ reach out if there's a particular event

18:22 ↗ or meeting your

18:24 ↗ you know concerned about

18:27 ↗ all right so there are some penalties

18:29 ↗ for

18:31 ↗ um violations of this act which are

18:33 ↗ shown on this slide here um we staff are

18:35 ↗ working really hard to make sure you're

18:37 ↗ on track here but yes their question

18:40 ↗ gosh

18:43 ↗ yeah hi Tisha uh so I have a quick

18:47 ↗ question and I know my video is frozen

18:49 ↗ so please ignore that

18:52 ↗ um so if we have a follow-up email from

18:56 ↗ you know somebody who presented in the

18:58 ↗ board meeting like last time or

19:00 ↗ something and if they are just providing

19:02 ↗ some information or recap of their

19:04 ↗ presentation and then asking for input

19:07 ↗ because it's going to the city hall or

19:09 ↗ somewhere else for more comment and if I

19:12 ↗ have any input on it uh do I just do I

19:15 ↗ email to the entire uh probably I

19:18 ↗ thought maybe I should be emailing to

19:20 ↗ the chair and Stacy or is does it need

19:23 ↗ to be just Stacy I need to provide the

19:25 ↗ input too

19:30 ↗ okay that would be my suggestion I mean

19:33 ↗ again the goal is to keep it away from

19:36 ↗ five members but we're also just trying

19:37 ↗ to keep your discussion

19:40 ↗ right solid space okay between each

19:43 ↗ other as much as possible got it okay

19:46 ↗ thank you she and Stacy I assume you

19:50 ↗ might choose to summarize to share what

19:52 ↗ input you've gotten but yeah good

19:54 ↗ question

19:57 ↗ all right if there are any other

19:58 ↗ questions then I will um touch on the

20:01 ↗ public records act so most of the

20:04 ↗ records that you get related to the

20:06 ↗ environmental board will come from City

20:08 ↗ staff will be included in your agenda

20:11 ↗ materials or you might be sent some

20:13 ↗ information by email anything that

20:15 ↗ you're provided from the city you don't

20:18 ↗ need to worry about keeping we we are

20:21 ↗ keeping the records

20:23 ↗ um but we do want you to think about

20:24 ↗ things you might be generating outside

20:27 ↗ of

20:29 ↗ City staff and so what that could be it

20:31 ↗ might be some notes or something you're

20:33 ↗ writing up to help you track your

20:35 ↗ involvement with the board if you're

20:37 ↗ taking notes you don't have to keep the

20:40 ↗ notes we're not obligated to keep

20:42 ↗ them we have a lot of requirements for

20:45 ↗ our records as a government agency but

20:48 ↗ notes can be disposed of once they're no

20:50 ↗ longer needed so

20:52 ↗ um you are welcome and in some ways

20:54 ↗ encouraged if you your notes have served

20:57 ↗ their purpose to go ahead and put them

20:58 ↗ in the recycle bin however if you choose

21:01 ↗ to keep notes or other records keep them

21:04 ↗ organized if we get a public records

21:05 ↗ request about an item that's come to

21:07 ↗ your board we may need to ask you for

21:09 ↗ any records that you have that we don't

21:11 ↗ have

21:12 ↗ um related to a particular meeting or

21:14 ↗ agenda topic so just just know where

21:16 ↗ they are and have them organized in case

21:18 ↗ we need to ask you uh similar for email

21:21 ↗ so any email uh that is to the

21:24 ↗ environmental board or includes City

21:26 ↗ staff will have a copy of that email in

21:28 ↗ our email archive but if you're emailing

21:30 ↗ directly with a member of the public or

21:32 ↗ another board member in a city staff

21:35 ↗ person isn't copied there's a chance we

21:37 ↗ might need to reach out to you and ask

21:39 ↗ you for any emails that you have so some

21:42 ↗ board members do choose to have a

21:44 ↗ separate email account just so they can

21:46 ↗ keep everything real

21:49 ↗ um separate and clean uh another option

21:52 ↗ is to generally uh include a city staff

21:55 ↗ person on your email so that if you're

21:57 ↗ asked you can say any email I've sent in

21:59 ↗ my capacity has included a city staff

22:02 ↗ then we'll know we have it another

22:04 ↗ option is to have a folder you know in

22:06 ↗ your email inbox where you've put emails

22:09 ↗ like that that might that we might not

22:10 ↗ have so again if if we need to ask you

22:13 ↗ um we can get them from you so that's

22:16 ↗ the main message here anything you're

22:18 ↗ generating outside of the city please

22:20 ↗ keep it organized and understand that

22:22 ↗ you may be asked to provide it in

22:23 ↗ response to a request for records we are

22:27 ↗ obligated to provide records to anyone

22:29 ↗ anywhere who asks us for them as part of

22:33 ↗ um Washington State's open government

22:35 ↗ laws transparent government so

22:39 ↗ that is all I have on that topic

22:42 ↗ um lastly uh we do have an Ethics

22:46 ↗ document that we like you to take a look

22:50 ↗ at it contains some information about

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23:18 ↗ Isha any questions for Tisha

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23:32 ↗ the expert

23:37 ↗ all right well it seems like we are

23:39 ↗ ready to move on thank you Tisha

23:42 ↗ um and next up on the agenda we have the

23:44 ↗ King County Metro shuttle program

23:47 ↗ John will you be presenting that yes

23:50 ↗ take it away

23:52 ↗ share my screen

23:55 ↗ Eternal words

23:58 ↗ um well good evening my name is John

24:01 ↗ Larson friend I'm the transportation

24:02 ↗ program coordinator I'm also the liaison

24:04 ↗ for the tab the demonstration advisory

24:06 ↗ report so I'm Stacy for them basically

24:09 ↗ so I'm very familiar with this venue I'm

24:12 ↗ joined this evening by Meredith Sampson

24:14 ↗ from King County Metro

24:16 ↗ hey there she is

24:18 ↗ um

24:19 ↗ and we're going to tell you about the

24:22 ↗ Metroflex on demand service

24:25 ↗ the purpose tonight is just to introduce

24:28 ↗ you to this program and answer any

24:30 ↗ questions that you might have about it

24:31 ↗ before I move on to uh to Meredith's

24:35 ↗ presentation from Metro side just wanted

24:38 ↗ to note that first I assume you read the

24:41 ↗ memo so I won't get into the mystery I

24:43 ↗ provide it there if you want to know a

24:45 ↗ little bit more about

24:46 ↗ how we got here uh you might recognize

24:49 ↗ this project program effort by a

24:53 ↗ different name it's been called the

24:55 ↗ squacentel shuttle for a while now uh

24:59 ↗ for about 10 years or so the city's been

25:01 ↗ interested in trying to reconnect the

25:04 ↗ squawk and Talus neighborhood via some

25:07 ↗ sort of Transit option it's pretty cut

25:09 ↗ off from the rest of the city due to

25:12 ↗ sidewalks or lack of sidewalks and

25:14 ↗ sr-900 running a mile down from

25:18 ↗ the transit station so yeah the it's

25:21 ↗ been a priority of council for a while

25:22 ↗ and in fact in 2021 my position was

25:26 ↗ created

25:27 ↗ to try to bring something to those

25:30 ↗ neighborhoods

25:31 ↗ um so with that I am excited to bring

25:34 ↗ you uh the information on this potential

25:36 ↗ partnership and I will hand it over some

25:39 ↗ Meredith to present

25:42 ↗ thanks John

25:44 ↗ um hi everybody my name is Meredith

25:45 ↗ Sampson I'm a transportation planner at

25:47 ↗ King County Metro and I work in their

25:50 ↗ service Planning Group with a focus on

25:52 ↗ East King County so I'm going to spend

25:54 ↗ my time this evening talking about

25:55 ↗ Metroflex

25:57 ↗ on John

25:59 ↗ Q

26:01 ↗ um a quick agenda here I'm going to

26:03 ↗ start with the role of on-demand

26:04 ↗ services in Metro move into a an

26:07 ↗ overview of Metroflex what it is how it

26:10 ↗ operates where it operates I'll talk

26:12 ↗ about some environmental considerations

26:13 ↗ of the service and I will also touch on

26:15 ↗ the workings of a partnership with

26:17 ↗ Issaquah

26:20 ↗ so starting off with the role of

26:23 ↗ on-demand Services

26:24 ↗ Metro's flexible services are part of

26:27 ↗ our broad range of Mobility Services and

26:30 ↗ the program started nearly 10 years ago

26:31 ↗ it's evolved over time and we've worked

26:34 ↗ with communities and tried new ideas and

26:36 ↗ kind of adjusted our tactics based on

26:38 ↗ lessons we've learned so on-demand

26:40 ↗ services are a small or our type of

26:43 ↗ service that Metro is offering right now

26:44 ↗ that fit under that umbrella of flexible

26:47 ↗ Services

26:48 ↗ um and along with other Mobility options

26:51 ↗ outside of what most people know Metro

26:52 ↗ for which is just the fixed route bus

26:54 ↗ service

26:55 ↗ so the role of on-demand Services is to

26:57 ↗ provide Mobility options in areas that

26:59 ↗ don't have the infrastructure population

27:01 ↗ density or land use to support high

27:04 ↗ capacity fixed route bus service but

27:06 ↗ where there's still an identified

27:08 ↗ Mobility gap for folks the main

27:11 ↗ priorities are to connect writers to fix

27:12 ↗ route Transit either through connecting

27:15 ↗ people to bus stops Park and rides or

27:18 ↗ Transit centers and also to increase

27:19 ↗ access to jobs and Community assets

27:21 ↗ locally within each service area as well

27:27 ↗ uh so for the last several years Metro

27:30 ↗ was operating on-demand Services through

27:33 ↗ a couple different vendors in March we

27:35 ↗ Consolidated all on-demand Services

27:36 ↗ under one vendor

27:38 ↗ um the service is called Metroflex

27:39 ↗ previously you may have heard about

27:40 ↗ Community ride or ride Pingo or via to

27:44 ↗ Transit but they're all one now called

27:45 ↗ Metroflex for legibility kind of across

27:47 ↗ the system and we're very excited about

27:49 ↗ that at Metro so I wanted to spend just

27:52 ↗ kind of a few minutes talking through

27:54 ↗ how the service Works

27:57 ↗ um so the main premise is that people

27:59 ↗ can use this service to travel from any

28:02 ↗ point within a service area to any point

28:04 ↗ within the same Service Area writers can

28:06 ↗ request a Ride On Demand either using

28:08 ↗ the Metroflex app our call center or

28:11 ↗ through our website

28:13 ↗ they designate a start destination any

28:16 ↗ user would designate a start destination

28:18 ↗ and an end destination for their trip

28:20 ↗ within the service area and then they're

28:22 ↗ given an ETA

28:23 ↗ Metro's metroflex's Fleet or minivans

28:26 ↗ kind of shown on the right here it also

28:29 ↗ includes wheelchair accessible Vehicles

28:31 ↗ so when a rider books a ride if they're

28:33 ↗ doing through so doing that through the

28:34 ↗ app they can designate in their profile

28:37 ↗ whether or not they need a wheelchair

28:38 ↗ accessible vehicle and it'll remember

28:40 ↗ that for future trips and I believe the

28:42 ↗ same goes for booking on the website or

28:43 ↗ online you still need a profile so

28:45 ↗ anytime you book a trip it will remember

28:46 ↗ that preference

28:49 ↗ um there's also interpreter services

28:50 ↗ available to request a ride and one

28:53 ↗ thing that I want to emphasize on here

28:54 ↗ is that the service is the same Fair as

28:56 ↗ a bus you can pay on board with an orca

28:58 ↗ card or a Transit Go ticket

29:01 ↗ um you can pay through the app with a

29:02 ↗ credit card we're not accepting cash at

29:03 ↗ this time but you can also load Orca

29:06 ↗ cards with cash at certain locations if

29:09 ↗ that is preferable we're really trying

29:10 ↗ to get an orca card in everyone's hands

29:12 ↗ and so Riders I believe the cutoff age

29:16 ↗ is 13 and older can ride alone in these

29:20 ↗ vehicles and Metro has the free Youth

29:23 ↗ Fair right now so since this is the same

29:25 ↗ Fair as a bus really Riders youth

29:28 ↗ writers are can get this service for

29:30 ↗ free

29:33 ↗ you

29:34 ↗ um okay so here's a map of all of the

29:37 ↗ current service areas they're currently

29:38 ↗ seven and as tables kind of formatted a

29:41 ↗ little strangely so I apologize for that

29:43 ↗ but there are Juanita Sammamish Ken

29:45 ↗ Othello Raynor Beach Skyway Renton

29:48 ↗ Highlands and Tukwila so as you know

29:51 ↗ King County is very large area wise huge

29:54 ↗ mix of different densities land uses

29:57 ↗ um and so these Services really vary

29:59 ↗ from more urban land uses to lower

30:01 ↗ density Suburban land uses so the

30:04 ↗ service areas that are in more urban

30:06 ↗ areas like Othello or tequila help to

30:08 ↗ connect people to the Light Rail and the

30:11 ↗ service areas that are in lower density

30:12 ↗ areas help provide local Mobility to

30:14 ↗ assets within the service area and

30:16 ↗ connect Riders to the transportation

30:17 ↗ Network as well to like through Park and

30:20 ↗ rides and Transit centers

30:21 ↗ [Music]

30:22 ↗ um

30:23 ↗ so putting these service areas in

30:25 ↗ different settings like this is really

30:27 ↗ helping Metro learn a lot about service

30:30 ↗ area design and you know how big or

30:32 ↗ small service area should be for

30:34 ↗ efficiency and just wear this type of

30:37 ↗ service really makes sense and helps

30:38 ↗ people the most

30:42 ↗ okay so I won't spend too much time on

30:45 ↗ this slide but this is what the

30:47 ↗ Metroflex app looks like so you create

30:50 ↗ an account you book a ride it provides

30:52 ↗ you with an ETA it's a very similar

30:53 ↗ interface to other Rideshare apps you

30:55 ↗ may have seen or used before you enter

30:58 ↗ your pickup and drop-off locations and

31:00 ↗ you can track your driver's progress

31:02 ↗ along the way average

31:05 ↗ etas right now are about 15 minutes they

31:07 ↗ vary a little bit across service areas

31:09 ↗ and we're working that out but they

31:11 ↗ average about 15 minutes and depending

31:13 ↗ on demand and who else is requesting a

31:15 ↗ ride and where they're going the

31:17 ↗ algorithm will consolidate rides where

31:19 ↗ it makes sense so your vehicle May pick

31:21 ↗ others up along the way or drop them off

31:23 ↗ along the way to your destination so it

31:24 ↗ could be more of like a carpool

31:26 ↗ situation it's not like a single

31:27 ↗ occupancy vehicle strictly service

31:34 ↗ okay this is where it gets a little

31:36 ↗ tricky a little complicated one feature

31:38 ↗ of this service is that it's integrated

31:40 ↗ with Metro's bus Network

31:42 ↗ um so we want the service to really

31:43 ↗ complement and not cannibalize fixed

31:46 ↗ route Transit

31:47 ↗ um So within the app you can also see

31:49 ↗ Transit options and we've begun using

31:51 ↗ this fixed route filtering so what that

31:53 ↗ means is that if someone requests a ride

31:56 ↗ that has quote unquote good fixed route

31:58 ↗ option instead the user will be given

32:01 ↗ directions to catch that and how we

32:03 ↗ Define good was a very long conversation

32:05 ↗ but what we ended up with is a quarter

32:08 ↗ mile or less of walking

32:10 ↗ the user the ride also has to and within

32:14 ↗ a 15-minute ETA of when the user would

32:16 ↗ get there using Metroflex instead and no

32:19 ↗ transfers so only a one-like trip so if

32:22 ↗ all of those criteria are met like you

32:23 ↗ happen to be requesting a ride you're

32:25 ↗ standing next to a bus stop and a bus is

32:27 ↗ coming and it'll take you right to your

32:28 ↗ destination you will see what you see on

32:30 ↗ the right side of the screen which is

32:32 ↗ this notice

32:33 ↗ um it says okay your trip is better

32:35 ↗ served by a bus you won't see a

32:37 ↗ Metroflex option click plan my trip for

32:39 ↗ directions and it'll direct you how to

32:40 ↗ catch the bus there

32:43 ↗ um another point on the slide that I

32:44 ↗ wanted to talk about is this corner to

32:47 ↗ corner service idea

32:49 ↗ so this is a feature of Metroflex it

32:51 ↗ helps to increase driver efficiency so

32:54 ↗ when someone requests a ride the

32:56 ↗ interface will direct them to a pickup

32:58 ↗ location that is nearby and usually on

33:00 ↗ the corner of the nearest cross street

33:01 ↗ we call these virtual bus stops I

33:04 ↗ wouldn't show a map of a virtual bus

33:06 ↗ stop right now because there's

33:07 ↗ so many of them they're just you know

33:09 ↗ pretty much every intersection possible

33:11 ↗ across the service area it's a virtual

33:13 ↗ bus stop

33:14 ↗ um but the main premise of it is that no

33:17 ↗ one would ever be a like our maximum

33:19 ↗ walk shed that you would have to walk

33:20 ↗ would be 250 feet but the average is far

33:23 ↗ lower than that most people are not

33:24 ↗ being asked to walk more than 70 feet

33:27 ↗ um and if a user marks in their Metro

33:29 ↗ profile that they have the mobility

33:30 ↗ concern this overrides a virtual bus

33:32 ↗ stop situation and you'll be picked up

33:34 ↗ at your door

33:38 ↗ okay so for environmental considerations

33:41 ↗ I thought I would just touch on this

33:43 ↗ since I'm talking to the environmental

33:45 ↗ board right now Metro is currently

33:47 ↗ working toward electrifying both its

33:50 ↗ fixed route Fleet and flexible service

33:51 ↗ Vehicles majority of the Metroflex Vans

33:54 ↗ are hybrid currently but eventually they

33:57 ↗ will all be

33:58 ↗ one thing that I just briefly

34:01 ↗ touched on about the services that Metro

34:03 ↗ provides or Metroflex provides these

34:05 ↗ shared rides to maximize efficiency and

34:08 ↗ decrease environmental impact so several

34:10 ↗ people are requesting rides at the same

34:11 ↗ time the algorithm will combine the

34:13 ↗ rides

34:14 ↗ um

34:15 ↗ when it's possible as long as the rider

34:17 ↗ does not experience a route deviation

34:19 ↗ that will take 1.5 times as long as the

34:22 ↗ original trip so we're not going to have

34:24 ↗ someone request a ride and then be in

34:25 ↗ there for like three hours as the the

34:27 ↗ van goes and drops people often picks

34:29 ↗ people up but when it makes sense it

34:30 ↗ will consolidate those strips

34:33 ↗ um and I also did touch on the service

34:35 ↗ area design a little earlier but the

34:37 ↗ boundaries are drawn

34:38 ↗ with the main intention to connect

34:41 ↗ Riders to Transit Hub so the idea is

34:43 ↗ that Riders are taking you know short

34:45 ↗ trips within the service area to connect

34:46 ↗ to the greater Transit Network and be

34:48 ↗ able to take Transportation you know

34:49 ↗ public transit elsewhere instead of

34:51 ↗ driving the entire way

34:54 ↗ Meredith

34:57 ↗ yeah

35:01 ↗ um

35:03 ↗ okay never mind go ahead

35:07 ↗ I'm covering what I was going to ask

35:08 ↗ about so okay yeah I I only have one

35:10 ↗ little slide left but that I'm happy to

35:12 ↗ take any and all questions so

35:15 ↗ um

35:16 ↗ finally on to probably what you're all

35:18 ↗ kind of wondering about we have been

35:20 ↗ working on and thinking about

35:23 ↗ um this Issaquah partnership for this

35:24 ↗ service so in 2019 you may remember and

35:28 ↗ John touched on it a little bit at the

35:30 ↗ beginning

35:31 ↗ um Community engagement was conducted

35:33 ↗ through a survey to the squawken towels

35:34 ↗ neighborhoods to scope potential pilot

35:36 ↗ to bring increased Mobility to that area

35:38 ↗ due to the nature of a topography and

35:41 ↗ the infrastructure kind of making it

35:42 ↗ difficult for people to walk and roll to

35:44 ↗ Transit from those areas

35:47 ↗ so and also just the difficulty like but

35:50 ↗ Joe can't operate Transit

35:53 ↗ in those steep Windy Hills sorry can you

35:56 ↗ all hear me my

35:58 ↗ yeah okay

36:00 ↗ um

36:02 ↗ so that didn't come to fruition due to

36:04 ↗ covid and budget impacts and whatnot but

36:06 ↗ findings from that survey did show a

36:08 ↗ desire for residents in these

36:10 ↗ neighborhoods to connect to Transit hubs

36:11 ↗ and local businesses you know they

36:12 ↗ wanted Mobility so Flash Forward to 2023

36:15 ↗ and then talking with Issaquah City

36:17 ↗ staff we heard there was still a desire

36:19 ↗ for this Mobility option here and

36:20 ↗ serving these areas also ranked highly

36:22 ↗ on Metro's prioritization model so we

36:25 ↗ looked into that and assessed where P

36:27 ↗ where we heard people wanted to travel

36:29 ↗ along with the transit hubs and came up

36:31 ↗ with this combined Sammamish Issaquah

36:34 ↗ service area

36:35 ↗ so I showed in like one of the previous

36:36 ↗ slides that the Sammamish area is

36:39 ↗ existing

36:40 ↗ um that area currently has about two

36:42 ↗ Vehicles operating within it during its

36:44 ↗ service hours and increasing the area we

36:47 ↗ would be adding one additional vehicle

36:49 ↗ to accommodate the projected demand

36:51 ↗ having a combined area allows for people

36:53 ↗ traveling in these areas to have more

36:55 ↗ destination options it's really a

36:56 ↗ benefit for Issaquah Riders and some

36:58 ↗ Amish Riders as well and there's also an

37:01 ↗ added efficiency in terms of just

37:02 ↗ operationally that comes in with this in

37:05 ↗ terms of vehicle sharing between the the

37:08 ↗ uh the area like expanding the area and

37:10 ↗ having three vehicles so that they can

37:12 ↗ go where the demand is greatest within

37:14 ↗ its own

37:16 ↗ um versus doing an isqua separate Zone

37:18 ↗ because that would need they never start

37:20 ↗ a new Zone with only one vehicle so it

37:21 ↗ would need its own two vehicles and that

37:23 ↗ might be too much so I think there's

37:24 ↗ three vehicles for the shared zone is

37:26 ↗ going to be a sweet spot

37:28 ↗ um so that's why we're here talking to

37:31 ↗ you and we're talking about this to the

37:33 ↗ transit Advisory Board in a couple weeks

37:35 ↗ and we're really hoping this partnership

37:37 ↗ can kind of fill a Mobility need in the

37:39 ↗ area and help connect people to the

37:42 ↗ places they want to go

37:45 ↗ and that is it but I'm happy to take any

37:47 ↗ questions or comments

37:52 ↗ go ahead and

37:54 ↗ how many writers

37:57 ↗ can fit in each band

38:01 ↗ what was that oh how many writers oh man

38:05 ↗ um that's a good question I believe

38:07 ↗ since they're minivans they can take

38:09 ↗ a maximum of five

38:13 ↗ thanks

38:14 ↗ um

38:15 ↗ Nancy and then what is that prajte

38:19 ↗ is

38:30 ↗ I know you're really focused on Issaquah

38:33 ↗ but I was just curious why did you cut

38:35 ↗ off some Amish

38:36 ↗ so that the cement service area

38:39 ↗ um

38:40 ↗ John can you go to the slide that has

38:41 ↗ all of the service areas on it

38:44 ↗ yes so I know this is really small but

38:46 ↗ the Sammamish service area I'm not sure

38:49 ↗ what year was actually implemented but

38:50 ↗ it was a while ago a while ago and it

38:53 ↗ was implemented to

38:56 ↗ um

38:58 ↗ account for some Transit like bus routes

39:01 ↗ that were removed from the area for

39:03 ↗ whatever reason and I think it had the

39:05 ↗ shape of the service area has to do with

39:07 ↗ that I was not at working at Metro when

39:09 ↗ that like service area was created and

39:11 ↗ we have heard requests from the city of

39:12 ↗ Sammamish like you know we want to go to

39:14 ↗ these destinations up north and we want

39:15 ↗ to do this and it's really hard when

39:17 ↗ we're looking at designing a service

39:20 ↗ area because you could just keep

39:21 ↗ expanding it forever because there's

39:23 ↗ always going to be places that people

39:24 ↗ want to go so we thought in this

39:27 ↗ instance it made sense to expand Sal to

39:30 ↗ include Issaquah instead of increasing

39:32 ↗ the Sammamish service area to the north

39:34 ↗ this met some more of Metro's Equity

39:38 ↗ goals I would say than expanding the

39:41 ↗ Sammamish area to the north but of

39:42 ↗ course there's going to be destinations

39:44 ↗ outside of there that

39:45 ↗ you know that we would

39:47 ↗ like to serve one day just maybe the

39:49 ↗ service area would have to look a little

39:51 ↗ different

39:52 ↗ um

39:52 ↗ have to find that sweet spot of

39:55 ↗ service area size to make the the

39:57 ↗ service really work

40:00 ↗ and one other question for you how is

40:02 ↗ this funded for Issaquah well Issaquah

40:04 ↗ have to put something in at the budget

40:06 ↗ to pay for this yes so this service area

40:08 ↗ on the proposal is for it to be funded

40:11 ↗ for the one extra vehicle to be funded

40:13 ↗ by the City of Issaquah

40:23 ↗ yeah uh hi Meredith this is Branch

40:27 ↗ um and so I had some specific questions

40:30 ↗ um so is this program already in place

40:32 ↗ do you already have bands working in

40:34 ↗ these areas

40:36 ↗ yes we do okay so then the next question

40:39 ↗ was you know and specifically because I

40:41 ↗ know about summer Mission that's why I

40:43 ↗ wanted to check

40:44 ↗ um because I know there had been some

40:46 ↗ issues with

40:48 ↗ um you know low frequency and not beyond

40:51 ↗ the peak times you know not many buses

40:53 ↗ are available or buses available after

40:55 ↗ one hour frequency or something like

40:58 ↗ that so they were I can see why the this

41:00 ↗ would really help for those Transit

41:02 ↗ issues

41:03 ↗ um so my question was

41:05 ↗ um

41:06 ↗ um does it help I mean this basically

41:09 ↗ helps you take uh a Metro or basically

41:12 ↗ Transit from one location to possibly a

41:15 ↗ park and ride or something where you

41:17 ↗ connect with the bus service is that

41:19 ↗ right or is that the main intent

41:22 ↗ so that is one way you can use the

41:24 ↗ service and we design the service areas

41:26 ↗ to include to try to include Transit

41:28 ↗ hubs like that so someone could take it

41:30 ↗ to the squad Transit Center however it

41:33 ↗ those are not the only destinations you

41:34 ↗ can travel from any point to any point

41:37 ↗ within the service area you could take

41:39 ↗ this Fred Meyer you could take this to

41:40 ↗ your friend's house

41:42 ↗ okay and so the pricing will be based on

41:45 ↗ how many miles you are traveling and it

41:47 ↗ will be deducted from your calculator

41:49 ↗ no it's just um the same price as a

41:52 ↗ adult if you're an adult bus fare so I

41:54 ↗ think that's 275. okay for each leg

41:57 ↗ basically for each time yes for each

42:00 ↗ ride

42:01 ↗ okay

42:02 ↗ thank you yeah and I will say that's

42:04 ↗ just the general adult pair but it

42:06 ↗ matches whatever your ORCA card is so if

42:08 ↗ you're on an orca lift or reduced fare

42:10 ↗ program it would match that

42:12 ↗ um and the free fares for kids as well

42:14 ↗ okay thank you

42:17 ↗ gotcha thank you I'm going to go to your

42:20 ↗ comment about how you're expanding um

42:22 ↗ the service area from Sammamish rather

42:24 ↗ than heading north heading into Issaquah

42:26 ↗ I was curious if you could speak a

42:27 ↗ little bit about what you said ridership

42:28 ↗ has been like and if you find that

42:30 ↗ there's been increased demand

42:32 ↗ um versus just obviously our Issaquah

42:34 ↗ needs or if you've found that maybe that

42:37 ↗ there's not so much I was hoping you

42:38 ↗ could talk about ridership in on the

42:40 ↗ east side ridership in the Sammamish

42:42 ↗ area currently yes yeah so Sammamish

42:46 ↗ actually has seen this service area has

42:49 ↗ seen a really it used to be operated by

42:52 ↗ um Community ride before we Consolidated

42:54 ↗ all the services into Metroflex and in

42:57 ↗ the last

42:58 ↗ um

43:00 ↗ uh

43:01 ↗ a few months some Amish

43:03 ↗ ridership has really kind of blown up

43:06 ↗ we've had a huge demand for ridership

43:08 ↗ here which is why we think that

43:10 ↗ expanding into Issaquah will be like not

43:13 ↗ not too much we can't handle it but like

43:14 ↗ in a really good way we're like wow this

43:16 ↗ is succeeding this is doing what we want

43:17 ↗ it to do

43:18 ↗ um and I can I don't have the exact

43:20 ↗ ridership numbers right now off

43:23 ↗ trying to pull them up on my other

43:24 ↗ screen but that's too much for me right

43:26 ↗ now um that's what I was warning like

43:28 ↗ right is it going up is it going down

43:30 ↗ right yeah that's super helpful going up

43:32 ↗ yeah awesome and then how are you guys

43:34 ↗ evaluating when basically another

43:37 ↗ vehicle or you know what you're having

43:39 ↗ for peak times especially like how do

43:41 ↗ you guys kind of figure that out as a as

43:43 ↗ it's growing and kind of how you guys

43:45 ↗ touch base to figure out how this new

43:47 ↗ service area is responding to the new

43:49 ↗ Services yeah great question

43:52 ↗ um so we are constantly kind of looking

43:53 ↗ at the data and one thing that one key

43:55 ↗ indicator that you know maybe demand is

43:57 ↗ rising

43:59 ↗ um we need to increase vehicles and

44:01 ↗ there's a lot of demand as to looking at

44:02 ↗ the wait times

44:04 ↗ um you know wait times get well above 15

44:06 ↗ minutes then we're looking you know

44:08 ↗ during certain times of the day we need

44:09 ↗ to look at potentially adding another

44:10 ↗ vehicle one

44:13 ↗ um nice thing about this model is that

44:15 ↗ when we say add another vehicle it's not

44:17 ↗ necessarily adding a whole vehicle for

44:20 ↗ an entire you know like one vehicle

44:22 ↗ always to the service area area to be

44:24 ↗ operating the entire length of the time

44:25 ↗ that it's running it's all kind of um it

44:29 ↗ can be done on a smaller basis so if we

44:30 ↗ say oh there's a really high ridership

44:32 ↗ from

44:33 ↗ uh four to six p.m in the esquasa

44:37 ↗ Sammamish area like we need a fourth

44:38 ↗ vehicle during those two hours they can

44:40 ↗ Implement that and have another vehicle

44:42 ↗ come to um help with some of that demand

44:44 ↗ during that time so it's kind of a

44:46 ↗ balance

44:47 ↗ um but it's really comes down to us just

44:48 ↗ really monitoring the wait times

44:52 ↗ um and adjusting the vehicles in the

44:55 ↗ area accordingly

45:00 ↗ when you say it just a fourth vehicle is

45:02 ↗ that like contract with the city to add

45:04 ↗ a fourth vehicle or is this dynamically

45:05 ↗ happening no that's dynamically

45:08 ↗ happening so the contract we're working

45:09 ↗ on with Issaquah is like a set amount of

45:12 ↗ you know adding a third vehicle to this

45:14 ↗ area for

45:16 ↗ the operating hours but anything beyond

45:18 ↗ that is something between Metro and our

45:21 ↗ um

45:22 ↗ our contractor

45:23 ↗ okay so the three is the minimum and

45:25 ↗ then you guys Flex to cover yeah

45:28 ↗ my only other question was I didn't

45:30 ↗ notice a slide on planned Community

45:32 ↗ engagement to spread information about

45:34 ↗ the routes and I was curious maybe like

45:37 ↗ kind of using a model of what you guys

45:39 ↗ have done in Sammamish obviously or if

45:40 ↗ some long ago then kind of um how you

45:43 ↗ guys were planning on being able to kind

45:44 ↗ of roll this out in a way it was going

45:46 ↗ to be able to reach the community

45:47 ↗ successfully

45:49 ↗ it's also a great question so we

45:52 ↗ recently had a huge push from our

45:55 ↗ Communications and marketing team at

45:57 ↗ Metro when we did this consolidation

45:58 ↗ into Metroflex because

46:00 ↗ um it was a big change for a lot of

46:02 ↗ people using the Sammamish service and

46:03 ↗ all of the other services there's a new

46:05 ↗ app there's you know just new things to

46:07 ↗ learn about that so they have some

46:09 ↗ really good marketing materials created

46:12 ↗ on just how to use this service already

46:15 ↗ that we will probably be will be

46:17 ↗ Distributing through

46:18 ↗ um

46:19 ↗ whatever Avenues the city sees fit in

46:22 ↗ terms of like you know you guys know

46:24 ↗ best how to outreach to your to your

46:26 ↗ residence so we'll definitely be using

46:28 ↗ you for that

46:29 ↗ um we will staff if you have any like

46:33 ↗ uh

46:34 ↗ community events or open houses we're

46:36 ↗ happy to come staff those and talk about

46:38 ↗ them and email blasts that kind of thing

46:41 ↗ where um

46:43 ↗ we're happy to do that we also if you

46:45 ↗ in when people show interest they can

46:49 ↗ sign up for like a I forget what it's

46:51 ↗ called but just kind of a

46:52 ↗ these informational emails that'll come

46:55 ↗ out and like help you use the app and

46:57 ↗ give you updates and I think even when

46:59 ↗ you sign up for the app you get a few

47:00 ↗ rides free so there's a lot of um

47:02 ↗ promotional material that also helps

47:05 ↗ with people getting on board

47:07 ↗ great if I can make a quick suggestion

47:09 ↗ if you guys don't already use QR codes

47:11 ↗ at all existing like you know bus

47:13 ↗ terminals and things like that so that

47:15 ↗ current Riders have that new information

47:17 ↗ it's a great way to be able to

47:19 ↗ um you know cut down on um actual

47:22 ↗ physical marketing materials and to be

47:25 ↗ able to use that digital medium I really

47:27 ↗ also wanted to encourage I'm glad you

47:28 ↗ guys are still using

47:30 ↗ um the old phone system because

47:31 ↗ obviously we know not everybody has

47:33 ↗ access to technology

47:34 ↗ um and being able to have have this be

47:37 ↗ distributed to the widest space of

47:38 ↗ people is really appreciated

47:41 ↗ right

47:45 ↗ uh yeah wondering whether uh pick up and

47:47 ↗ drop off at uh trailheads within the

47:50 ↗ service area is allowed

47:54 ↗ um if there are trailheads within the

47:56 ↗ service area

47:59 ↗ I would think that would be allowed I

48:01 ↗ don't know off the top of my head if

48:02 ↗ there are or not you would probably know

48:04 ↗ better than me by looking at this map uh

48:06 ↗ yeah there are

48:10 ↗ so yes I would say so except

48:13 ↗ um I guess I I shouldn't just say a

48:15 ↗ blanket yes it depends on um the I guess

48:19 ↗ the like the quality of the road and the

48:21 ↗ vehicle being able to navigate it

48:23 ↗ um but Our intention is to be able to

48:26 ↗ serve all the areas within this service

48:28 ↗ area

48:30 ↗ okay thank you very good

48:33 ↗ I guess

48:35 ↗ on question I can see this see this

48:37 ↗ being

48:38 ↗ a really great service

48:41 ↗ like does it take bus routes away over

48:44 ↗ time because people are like this is way

48:46 ↗ more convenient

48:47 ↗ um like how do you how do you not take

48:50 ↗ away from the you know the bus is so

48:53 ↗ great because so many people can use it

48:54 ↗ at once which is great for the

48:55 ↗ environment how do you not

48:58 ↗ um take away from that and still create

49:00 ↗ this for people like I have an employee

49:03 ↗ who uses a service and not the service

49:05 ↗ but the bus his route just got um

49:08 ↗ eliminated

49:09 ↗ so I'm like oh this will be great for

49:11 ↗ him but like his route is on a pretty

49:13 ↗ main road so I was kind of surprised it

49:15 ↗ was eliminated so I don't know if that

49:17 ↗ makes sense I'm just wondering how that

49:18 ↗ affects the big picture of the bus

49:19 ↗ situation yeah and that's a great

49:22 ↗ question this is a conversation we have

49:24 ↗ I've had frequently at Metro

49:27 ↗ um and

49:28 ↗ you know and we're putting these service

49:30 ↗ areas in places that

49:34 ↗ um we're hoping people connect to the

49:36 ↗ transit hubs and I know Issaquah does

49:37 ↗ have a couple of bus local bus routes

49:39 ↗ that run run right through the service

49:41 ↗ area

49:42 ↗ um looking at the ridership for those

49:43 ↗ routes

49:44 ↗ um not for those routes for those stops

49:46 ↗ specifically that are local stops that

49:48 ↗ are not at a Transit Center those like

49:50 ↗ ons and offs are very low so we are

49:52 ↗ going to be monitoring how this service

49:54 ↗ impacts those but we have no plans to

49:56 ↗ remove bus service from Issaquah right

49:58 ↗ now we still are moving forward with the

50:02 ↗ Eastlink Network that will be

50:04 ↗ implemented as soon as the East Link

50:05 ↗ light Rail stations open but it is

50:08 ↗ something to be like thinking about and

50:09 ↗ I also will just caveat that any of the

50:12 ↗ bus

50:13 ↗ um

50:14 ↗ the recent Metro reductions that

50:16 ↗ happened

50:17 ↗ um it wasn't a a decision to it wasn't

50:21 ↗ say it like we weren't talking about

50:23 ↗ let's remove bus routes and just fully

50:26 ↗ replace them with Metroflex because I

50:28 ↗ think this is something that takes a

50:30 ↗ very unique area to really work for

50:34 ↗ um and so I think that I think it will

50:36 ↗ work for isawa based on the land use and

50:38 ↗ density here but it's not going to be

50:39 ↗ something that we're just replacing bus

50:42 ↗ service all across the county with with

50:43 ↗ Metroflex I will also say this is a

50:45 ↗ pilot program so this is a two-year

50:48 ↗ pilot

50:49 ↗ um and so we certainly would not remove

50:53 ↗ bus service and then have this be a

50:55 ↗ pilot and then you know remove a pilot

50:57 ↗ that's just it's not in our in our game

50:59 ↗ plan

51:00 ↗ I'll also mention too that

51:02 ↗ um

51:03 ↗ the the routes that are going away was

51:06 ↗ it 215 18 so somewhere around in there

51:10 ↗ um that are going away in September

51:11 ↗ those were already planned to go away

51:13 ↗ with Eastlink Alliance

51:16 ↗ um and it just happened to to align with

51:19 ↗ the driver shortage

51:22 ↗ consolidate that service but yeah great

51:24 ↗ question

51:25 ↗ yeah and I'm also happy to hear that

51:26 ↗ this service will

51:28 ↗ will help them with that

51:33 ↗ I have a question then we'll lower you

51:35 ↗ in um

51:38 ↗ it's kind of related to Dixie's question

51:40 ↗ uh is there anything the original

51:43 ↗ motivation for doing this is Talus

51:44 ↗ squawk right is there anything that is

51:47 ↗ being

51:53 ↗ maybe a question for Meredith maybe more

51:54 ↗ for you John to communicate more to the

51:58 ↗ areas that we actually like really

51:59 ↗ wanted to help serve better like how are

52:02 ↗ you guys thinking about

52:03 ↗ like the areas that are poorly served by

52:05 ↗ transit today being different or maybe

52:08 ↗ they aren't and how we

52:10 ↗ Community yeah because I can take that

52:12 ↗ um

52:13 ↗ so we've already done a little bit of

52:15 ↗ Engagement around the topic uh we did a

52:18 ↗ I think in April we did a survey up in

52:21 ↗ uh well old town was included too since

52:23 ↗ they were sort of excluded

52:26 ↗ specifically squawk Dallas

52:27 ↗ and we got a very large uh response

52:31 ↗ especially from Dallas and even high for

52:33 ↗ squawk which was great and basically the

52:36 ↗ findings were

52:37 ↗ if something like this were available I

52:40 ↗ would take transit more and I think it

52:41 ↗ was like a

52:42 ↗ 50 of respondents said that it was

52:44 ↗ amazing plus the ones who already take

52:46 ↗ it would take it away

52:49 ↗ um we are currently working on a game

52:51 ↗ plan for outreach obviously Meredith you

52:54 ↗ mentioned uh that uh you know mentioned

52:57 ↗ will do everything they normally do to

53:00 ↗ promote this service but we also have an

53:04 ↗ excellent Communications team with the

53:05 ↗ city that is uh ready to to work with us

53:09 ↗ on doing some targeted Outreach and even

53:12 ↗ Mass Outreach and I've also talked to um

53:15 ↗ I can't remember her name uh Christie at

53:17 ↗ um

53:18 ↗ what is Squad she's also prepared to

53:21 ↗ just

53:24 ↗ Christy if you're listening surprise

53:28 ↗ and yeah I think that's just something

53:30 ↗ that in terms of helping mitigate

53:32 ↗ unintended consequences in facts on

53:35 ↗ routes the more focus goes on places

53:37 ↗ better truly need the service exactly

53:40 ↗ better

53:41 ↗ um and then and go ahead

53:44 ↗ is one of your goals to make it more

53:47 ↗ possible to have a car free Society even

53:49 ↗ for people to live off the beaten path

53:51 ↗ like on heels

53:54 ↗ uh yes

53:58 ↗ especially for a community like swac and

54:01 ↗ Palace which are very hilly uh Taos has

54:05 ↗ good sidewalks but they're still on

54:06 ↗ Hills Spock obviously does not have very

54:09 ↗ a very robust sidewalk Network at the

54:12 ↗ moment

54:13 ↗ um and of course not being able to put

54:15 ↗ fixed route buses up into these areas

54:20 ↗ the the sort of service really fills in

54:23 ↗ those gaps of those the things that

54:25 ↗ limit the ability to I wish this buses

54:29 ↗ everywhere but that's just not the oh

54:31 ↗ that's reality yeah so things like this

54:33 ↗ these Innovative sort of programs like

54:35 ↗ Metroflex are an excellent kind of uh

54:38 ↗ stop gap for that

54:40 ↗ make sure that people have access to

54:42 ↗ their community and access to the points

54:45 ↗ in their Community where they can go and

54:46 ↗ explore the rest of the county

54:50 ↗ very cool thank you

54:55 ↗ all right

54:56 ↗ oh

55:00 ↗ okay I think uh thank you Meredith thank

55:02 ↗ you John

55:03 ↗ um appreciate you guys both joining us

55:06 ↗ um and I think with that we'll move on

55:07 ↗ to our next agenda item climate

55:10 ↗ vulnerability assessment draft policies

55:16 ↗ okay

55:19 ↗ can I ask a question before you get

55:21 ↗ started Stacy yes

55:23 ↗ so having reviewed this material

55:26 ↗ I'm concerned that and I know you're

55:29 ↗ going into climate change stuff but

55:31 ↗ we're an environmental board so are we

55:33 ↗ going to have the same kind of

55:34 ↗ presentation on the environmental

55:36 ↗ policies that are going in the comp plan

55:38 ↗ just asking that just because I'm really

55:41 ↗ concerned that we're missing that other

55:42 ↗ piece of what we're intended to do yeah

55:45 ↗ absolutely

55:46 ↗ um I can't remember if you were here

55:48 ↗ when Stephen came and presented to the

55:51 ↗ board it might have been the meeting

55:51 ↗ that you but um

55:54 ↗ the comprehensive plan is going to have

55:57 ↗ a new element that currently being

56:00 ↗ called environmental element where they

56:02 ↗ expand that title so this board is going

56:05 ↗ to be intimately involved in developing

56:08 ↗ that

56:09 ↗ um as well as the rest of the

56:11 ↗ comprehensive plan will be open for

56:12 ↗ those that will get different graphs of

56:14 ↗ it so

56:15 ↗ far titling that affects my comments as

56:18 ↗ you go through okay because I was very

56:20 ↗ concerned we were missing the

56:21 ↗ environment

56:25 ↗ yeah and I'm like no yeah

56:31 ↗ great intro he'll be coming back

56:32 ↗ multiple times and one thing we

56:35 ↗ discussed with the board as well as with

56:37 ↗ the planning team is

56:39 ↗ um both about the board and council's

56:41 ↗ involvement in that element as well as

56:43 ↗ with the climate resilience policies

56:45 ↗ which are

56:48 ↗ a portion of those policies and because

56:52 ↗ we've been doing so much work on the

56:54 ↗ climate vulnerability assessment and

56:56 ↗ climate resiliency this last year we

56:58 ↗ thought we would review those policies

57:00 ↗ separated this time but

57:02 ↗ part of tonight's discussion was trying

57:04 ↗ to keep it high level because there will

57:06 ↗ be lots of iterations coming back I

57:08 ↗ appreciate that yeah and I just needed

57:10 ↗ that context and that's good for

57:12 ↗ everyone and it helps set the

57:14 ↗ intervention

57:18 ↗ okay

57:21 ↗ so um tonight uh because we have been

57:24 ↗ through the the vulnerability assessment

57:27 ↗ for those of you who are on the board

57:28 ↗ last year

57:30 ↗ um a couple of times we're gonna just

57:31 ↗ provide a quick refresher on what's been

57:33 ↗ happening

57:34 ↗ with the climate vulnerability

57:36 ↗ assessment this last year and then

57:39 ↗ starting to look at proposed policies

57:41 ↗ for the city's comprehensive Plan update

57:45 ↗ um as mentioned in the memo we're trying

57:47 ↗ to keep somewhat high level feedback

57:50 ↗ tonight we don't have a ton of a time

57:52 ↗ and we will talk at the end about how we

57:55 ↗ want to continue that review going

57:56 ↗ forward

57:58 ↗ um but we're trying to get those high

57:59 ↗ level concerns high-level gaps because

58:02 ↗ there is going to be so much more work

58:04 ↗ done on these policies as they start to

58:06 ↗ integrate into the comprehensive plan

58:09 ↗ through the summer

58:11 ↗ um and also tonight we're not looking

58:13 ↗ for recommended Council this is kind of

58:16 ↗ an initial feedback

58:18 ↗ discussion on these draft policies

58:23 ↗ so just as a refresher for the last year

58:27 ↗ almost we have been working on a climate

58:30 ↗ vulnerability assessment this was a

58:32 ↗ near-term action within the icap

58:37 ↗ we worked with cassikipedia Consulting

58:40 ↗ and they have been pulling together data

58:44 ↗ local Regional National Data they've

58:48 ↗ been working closely with City staff

58:49 ↗ also gaining Community input through a

58:52 ↗ number of different

58:54 ↗ surveys and workshops and focus groups

58:58 ↗ um they looked at climate projections as

59:01 ↗ well as the likely impacts locally

59:05 ↗ they came to the board and we talked

59:08 ↗ about sectors and sub-sectors those were

59:12 ↗ also pulled out of various documents and

59:15 ↗ the way that the city uh

59:18 ↗ breaks apart those sectors for other

59:21 ↗ planning documents

59:23 ↗ um and then the consultant team has also

59:26 ↗ been looking at exposure sensitivity and

59:29 ↗ adaptive capacity for each of those

59:30 ↗ sectors and sub-sectors in order to get

59:33 ↗ a sense of our overall vulnerability for

59:37 ↗ climate impacts

59:39 ↗ so as a refresher

59:42 ↗ um for those that have been on the board

59:43 ↗ or to introduce for the new members

59:45 ↗ these are our sectors and sub-sectors

59:48 ↗ that we've been working on

59:50 ↗ the main sectors being built environment

59:52 ↗ Water Resources sewer natural systems

59:55 ↗ and stormwater public health and

59:56 ↗ Community resilience it's been probably

59:59 ↗ nine months or so since the board

1:00:01 ↗ provided the initial feedback almost

1:00:07 ↗ so through the vulnerability assessment

1:00:09 ↗ the consultant team was looking at the

1:00:12 ↗ impacts for the different climate risks

1:00:14 ↗ across these sectors

1:00:16 ↗ so for example increased Wildfire risk

1:00:20 ↗ is likely to impact our bill environment

1:00:22 ↗ some impact on

1:00:24 ↗ Technical Systems public health and

1:00:26 ↗ Community well-being where extreme

1:00:28 ↗ rainfall and storm events are going to

1:00:31 ↗ have impacts across

1:00:34 ↗ at most of our sectors

1:00:37 ↗ and then they've also been looking as as

1:00:40 ↗ mentioned the vulnerability of those

1:00:42 ↗ various sectors so what's the likelihood

1:00:45 ↗ of these climate impacts and how

1:00:47 ↗ resilient is that sector to be able to

1:00:49 ↗ withstand them

1:00:51 ↗ sectors that are likely to be more

1:00:54 ↗ vulnerable to climate impacts are ones

1:00:57 ↗ such as sensitive ecosystems and Health

1:00:59 ↗ and Social Services

1:01:01 ↗ lower on the vulnerability scale where

1:01:04 ↗ water supply sewer and septic systems

1:01:08 ↗ um that's a lot in part two redundancy

1:01:11 ↗ in the systems and

1:01:13 ↗ integer that we believe can withstand a

1:01:17 ↗ lot of the projected

1:01:20 ↗ so that's the about two minute snapshot

1:01:24 ↗ review of the climate vulnerability

1:01:26 ↗ assessment

1:01:28 ↗ um we are currently working to finish up

1:01:31 ↗ that report uh we've gotten a lot of

1:01:34 ↗ Staff feedback that we're working to

1:01:36 ↗ address and then we have a new manager

1:01:39 ↗ that's joined our staff that is also

1:01:42 ↗ going to be reviewing it and providing

1:01:44 ↗ feedback before we finalize it

1:01:47 ↗ but that vulnerability assessment has

1:01:49 ↗ been really important in help informing

1:01:52 ↗ a lot of the policies that will

1:01:54 ↗ thanks

1:01:58 ↗ so before jumping into the policy list

1:02:01 ↗ we wanted to just do a review of legend

1:02:04 ↗ or provide some context around the house

1:02:07 ↗ bill 1181 that passed this year it was

1:02:11 ↗ under a different name last year

1:02:13 ↗ blinking on a number but this is the

1:02:16 ↗ house bill that is going to require

1:02:20 ↗ climate mitigation and resilience

1:02:23 ↗ policies within comprehensive plans

1:02:27 ↗ um so for Issaquah we're actually not

1:02:29 ↗ required to integrate with our current

1:02:31 ↗ update to the comprehensive plan but we

1:02:35 ↗ have made a commitment to do so we've

1:02:38 ↗ already been building in actions from

1:02:40 ↗ the climate action plan

1:02:43 ↗ um into the comprehensive plan and now

1:02:45 ↗ we want to build in more of those

1:02:49 ↗ so just to do a provide a quick summary

1:02:52 ↗ of what the requirements are under this

1:02:55 ↗ hospital and what we intend to meet with

1:02:58 ↗ our update this year

1:03:00 ↗ is that a comprehensive plan must have

1:03:03 ↗ policy as a result in a reduction in

1:03:05 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions generated by

1:03:08 ↗ transportation and land use

1:03:10 ↗ must result in reduction in per capita

1:03:12 ↗ of vehicle miles traveled

1:03:14 ↗ prioritize reductions that benefit

1:03:17 ↗ overburden communities

1:03:19 ↗ identify protect and enhance natural

1:03:22 ↗ systems

1:03:23 ↗ identify protect and enhance Community

1:03:26 ↗ resilience to climate change impacts

1:03:28 ↗ address natural hazards that are created

1:03:31 ↗ or aggregated by climate change

1:03:35 ↗ um and commerce is we'll talk a little

1:03:37 ↗ bit more about this but they're working

1:03:39 ↗ on guidance

1:03:41 ↗ um that will support jurisdictions in

1:03:44 ↗ addressing uh all 11 priority sectors

1:03:47 ↗ that Department of Commerce is again

1:03:54 ↗ so Commerce is not

1:03:56 ↗ uh requiring jurisdictions to go alone

1:03:59 ↗ at this

1:04:02 ↗ um the state legislature task Commerce

1:04:04 ↗ to work over multiple years to develop

1:04:08 ↗ really detailed guidance for counties

1:04:10 ↗ and cities to address climate change

1:04:11 ↗ issues in their comprehensive plan

1:04:14 ↗ and the guidance is focusing both on

1:04:16 ↗ mitigation side as well as on the

1:04:18 ↗ Brazilian side

1:04:21 ↗ um and it's also probably going to

1:04:22 ↗ provide some additional requirements

1:04:23 ↗ outside of the legislation

1:04:26 ↗ it's really providing a pathway for

1:04:29 ↗ jurisdictions to undertake this work and

1:04:31 ↗ be a state requirement

1:04:37 ↗ within the initial guidance that

1:04:39 ↗ Commerce has released they are requiring

1:04:43 ↗ resilience goals and Associated policies

1:04:47 ↗ Within These major priority sectors

1:04:50 ↗ these are those 11 sectors I mentioned

1:04:54 ↗ um and these will all address those

1:04:56 ↗ requirements under the state

1:04:59 ↗ the legislation that passes

1:05:07 ↗ okay so next we're going to move into

1:05:09 ↗ the proposed policies for Issaquah for

1:05:14 ↗ consideration in the comprehensive plan

1:05:17 ↗ um before moving into discussions on

1:05:19 ↗ those just to give you a little

1:05:20 ↗ background about how those policies were

1:05:23 ↗ developed

1:05:25 ↗ um so our consultant team has been

1:05:27 ↗ working the last several months to start

1:05:30 ↗ looking at

1:05:32 ↗ policies that they that really came out

1:05:35 ↗ of or were informed by the climate

1:05:37 ↗ vulnerability assessment

1:05:40 ↗ um and then they have been reviewing

1:05:42 ↗ City Planning documents

1:05:45 ↗ um been leading workshops and focus

1:05:48 ↗ groups and conducting interviews meeting

1:05:52 ↗ with staff to get feedback on initial

1:05:55 ↗ policies

1:05:57 ↗ um and that really helped to inform the

1:05:59 ↗ initial draft list that they developed

1:06:01 ↗ and then they looked to crosswalk those

1:06:04 ↗ draft policies with

1:06:07 ↗ um the work that commerce was doing to

1:06:09 ↗ provide on their guidance policies or

1:06:13 ↗ suggested policies

1:06:15 ↗ um and then the King County City's

1:06:17 ↗ climate collaborative was also working

1:06:20 ↗ on some model policies to help

1:06:22 ↗ jurisdictions address this requirement

1:06:27 ↗ um so the consultant team's really been

1:06:28 ↗ trying to crosswalk all those things

1:06:30 ↗ make sure our policies meet our need but

1:06:33 ↗ also aligned with State and region

1:06:35 ↗ Al model policy

1:06:38 ↗ so

1:06:39 ↗ um what we're looking for is some

1:06:40 ↗ initial feedback on are we on the right

1:06:43 ↗ track are we getting it right are there

1:06:45 ↗ things that we need to revisit and make

1:06:48 ↗ changes so that we can continue the

1:06:51 ↗ conversation staff and make those

1:06:53 ↗ revisions to the policies before we

1:06:56 ↗ start betting further with Council as

1:06:58 ↗ part of the conference

1:06:59 ↗ update

1:07:04 ↗ um just yeah go ahead question for you

1:07:07 ↗ and it's related to what Nancy has is

1:07:09 ↗ will there be a separate session where

1:07:10 ↗ we do something similar or like natural

1:07:13 ↗ environment topics wherever the

1:07:14 ↗ non-climate environment topic yeah I

1:07:16 ↗ think that's Steven's intent

1:07:18 ↗ um I'll I'll peek at our

1:07:21 ↗ um schedule after this I believe he's

1:07:23 ↗ coming back in August and September to

1:07:26 ↗ start talking about those policies we

1:07:27 ↗ haven't even started that conversation

1:07:28 ↗ as staff yet to look at those

1:07:31 ↗ yeah so I think we have a kickoff

1:07:34 ↗ meeting next week I believe

1:07:40 ↗ um so the consultant team also did look

1:07:42 ↗ at how the proposed draft policies align

1:07:46 ↗ with our current comprehensive plan and

1:07:49 ↗ found

1:07:50 ↗ um some general alignment uh strong in

1:07:52 ↗ some areas less strong than others

1:07:55 ↗ um so that's where uh we're helping to

1:07:58 ↗ try and supplement what's already in the

1:08:00 ↗ comprehensive plan I think we uh in

1:08:03 ↗ Issaquah we have a really good start

1:08:04 ↗ because we've been we've already added

1:08:07 ↗ in a lot of the policies from the

1:08:09 ↗ climate action plan into the

1:08:11 ↗ comprehensive plan so I think we're

1:08:13 ↗ ahead of many other

1:08:19 ↗ so next we're gonna jump into policies

1:08:23 ↗ uh the draft policies and again we're

1:08:25 ↗ just we're looking at um

1:08:28 ↗ across the different sectors are we on

1:08:31 ↗ the right track uh what are any concerns

1:08:34 ↗ you have about what's currently proposed

1:08:36 ↗ are there major gaps

1:08:38 ↗ um so that we can take that feedback or

1:08:40 ↗ to refine the policies and work through

1:08:42 ↗ the comprehensive plan process

1:08:46 ↗ um we don't have a lot of time tonight

1:08:48 ↗ so at the end of our time for this topic

1:08:52 ↗ we can talk about whether we you would

1:08:55 ↗ like us to take all the input come back

1:08:57 ↗ and do another review of the policies or

1:09:00 ↗ is there a particular sector that we

1:09:02 ↗ want to dig into further maybe built

1:09:05 ↗ environment that's where we are of

1:09:07 ↗ policies so we can talk about that

1:09:10 ↗ towards the end of our time about how

1:09:13 ↗ we're going to move forward

1:09:16 ↗ um and then I think David uh print out a

1:09:19 ↗ couple copies of the memo that's where

1:09:21 ↗ we've listed or provided the tables

1:09:24 ↗ for the policies if folks want to review

1:09:27 ↗ or refer to those as we go through

1:09:31 ↗ the next few slides

1:09:34 ↗ um I think Jamie can see folks on that

1:09:36 ↗ screen I I will not be able to see you

1:09:38 ↗ if you raise your hand because I have my

1:09:40 ↗ PowerPoint up on the screen

1:09:42 ↗ um so do feel free to jump in or Jamie

1:09:45 ↗ might be able to see your hands right

1:09:48 ↗ um Raj do you want to go ahead

1:09:51 ↗ yeah uh hi Stacy so I have a couple of

1:09:55 ↗ questions here

1:09:57 ↗ um so I did look at the consultant

1:10:00 ↗ um you know report or what they had

1:10:02 ↗ provided and so I just wanted to check

1:10:05 ↗ um before deciding on you know the

1:10:08 ↗ basically climate vulnerability was

1:10:10 ↗ there any kind of climate mapping or you

1:10:13 ↗ know typically they'll do climate

1:10:15 ↗ mapping or something like that

1:10:17 ↗ um an Associated question with that the

1:10:19 ↗ reason I'm asking is was extreme heat

1:10:22 ↗ not included as one of the hazards for

1:10:25 ↗ the city if specifically Issaquah

1:10:28 ↗ because I don't think it was noted

1:10:30 ↗ um and the second question I had

1:10:31 ↗ associated with that was how was the

1:10:34 ↗ overall vulnerability you know

1:10:36 ↗ Quantified for sectors and sub-sectors

1:10:39 ↗ means I can see qualitatively you know

1:10:42 ↗ which one which sectors would be

1:10:45 ↗ um more vulnerable I was wondering if

1:10:47 ↗ there was a quantification method used

1:10:49 ↗ to you know justify that and

1:10:54 ↗ yeah for mapping let me know if I don't

1:10:57 ↗ touch on all of your questions

1:10:59 ↗ um for mapping we did look at a number

1:11:02 ↗ of

1:11:04 ↗ um there's a Washington Health

1:11:06 ↗ disparities map

1:11:08 ↗ we use some mapping done by the climate

1:11:10 ↗ impacts group that they've been doing

1:11:12 ↗ around key there's a number of new

1:11:15 ↗ Wildfire Maps so we've been trying to

1:11:17 ↗ look at the latest map at

1:11:20 ↗ one of the challenges is a lot of the

1:11:22 ↗ climate mapping is done at the county

1:11:24 ↗ scale that's about as refined as it is

1:11:28 ↗ so we've been working with that data but

1:11:31 ↗ then also trying to interpret for our

1:11:33 ↗ knowledge of Issaquah as well as where

1:11:36 ↗ we know there might be certain

1:11:37 ↗ communities in Issaquah that might be it

1:11:39 ↗ greater risk just because of

1:11:43 ↗ roads or access to resources

1:11:47 ↗ um and then extreme heat was uh has been

1:11:51 ↗ is considered as one of the major

1:11:52 ↗ impacts and one of the major concerns

1:11:55 ↗ for the community so that is one that is

1:11:58 ↗ captured within the vulnerability

1:12:00 ↗ assessment and should show up in the

1:12:03 ↗ policies but that's a good item to raise

1:12:06 ↗ if you're not seeing policies that

1:12:09 ↗ strongly address extreme heat knowing

1:12:12 ↗ that that's something we're already

1:12:13 ↗ dealing with and we'll deal with more

1:12:16 ↗ um and then the quantum was a

1:12:18 ↗ quantification of impacts for sectors

1:12:22 ↗ right I would just curious how was you

1:12:26 ↗ know that quantification or how was that

1:12:29 ↗ decided

1:12:31 ↗ yeah I think

1:12:33 ↗ um well for the the earlier slides where

1:12:36 ↗ I showed where the

1:12:39 ↗ Hector landed landed for resilience

1:12:43 ↗ um some of that was done Based on data

1:12:46 ↗ and then a lot of that was also based on

1:12:48 ↗ staff input so originally this board saw

1:12:52 ↗ several months ago

1:12:54 ↗ um sewer and some of the uh water

1:12:57 ↗ infrastructure maybe was more in the

1:12:59 ↗ yellow in terms of risk and in

1:13:02 ↗ conversations with our Public Works team

1:13:04 ↗ they felt that actually we have very

1:13:07 ↗ redundant systems that are

1:13:08 ↗ infrastructure could deal with major

1:13:12 ↗ storm events and so some of those

1:13:14 ↗ shifted just based on that feedback from

1:13:18 ↗ staff

1:13:19 ↗ so quantitative but also qualitative I'd

1:13:22 ↗ say based on staff expertise

1:13:26 ↗ okay did I did I get all your all your

1:13:30 ↗ eyes right then I had just one um quick

1:13:34 ↗ question on I did see the uh talking

1:13:37 ↗ about uh ghg emissions you know the

1:13:40 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions reductions in

1:13:43 ↗ few places and I know the goal is to

1:13:44 ↗ reduce I was just wondering and I'm not

1:13:47 ↗ sure if you already have it in place or

1:13:49 ↗ not yet but was there any specific goal

1:13:53 ↗ in mind like you know 50 reduction 30

1:13:56 ↗ reductions or going somewhere carbon

1:13:58 ↗ neutral or anything I'm just curious to

1:14:01 ↗ see it

1:14:02 ↗ um or was it a general approach to

1:14:04 ↗ reduce or just apply the strategies yeah

1:14:08 ↗ thank you that's a great question those

1:14:09 ↗ are covered in the climate action plan

1:14:12 ↗ those specific goals and Target years

1:14:14 ↗ and baselines

1:14:16 ↗ um so I don't know if those are called

1:14:19 ↗ out in any of the memos that we provided

1:14:22 ↗ to the board but I can send you those

1:14:25 ↗ um specific targets I don't know if

1:14:27 ↗ they're called out specifically in the

1:14:28 ↗ comprehensive plan but we can check

1:14:32 ↗ on okay thank you the city does have

1:14:35 ↗ those targets laid out

1:14:37 ↗ okay

1:14:40 ↗ any other general questions before

1:14:42 ↗ launching into policy input

1:14:46 ↗ one just we do have about 35 minutes

1:14:48 ↗ left in this section so I think built

1:14:51 ↗ environment we can go a little bit

1:14:53 ↗ longer but in general we're in the four

1:14:55 ↗ or five minutes per so please try to

1:14:57 ↗ keep your comments concise and to the

1:15:00 ↗ point yeah and one thing we did was

1:15:03 ↗ group some of the sectors for this

1:15:06 ↗ discussion

1:15:07 ↗ so there's only about four slides I

1:15:10 ↗ think uh because we could spend all

1:15:13 ↗ evening out there

1:15:15 ↗ sector so that's part of if if folks

1:15:18 ↗ have a ton of comments on buildings

1:15:20 ↗ housing energy transportation we want to

1:15:22 ↗ stay there we can do that for the next

1:15:24 ↗ 30 minutes and then we can come back and

1:15:27 ↗ talk about the other sectors if you want

1:15:28 ↗ so completely open

1:15:30 ↗ where the conversation goes

1:15:34 ↗ what's the temperature of everyone

1:15:36 ↗ in terms of your life

1:15:41 ↗ because we built environment and

1:15:43 ↗ everything else and I know these two

1:15:45 ↗ probably have a lot in build environment

1:15:46 ↗ but with globe General heat map of

1:15:50 ↗ comments are they is built environment

1:15:52 ↗ the majority of people have

1:15:55 ↗ I think we should just get started but

1:15:57 ↗ this is my opinion see where we go can I

1:16:00 ↗ try another attack real quick and to see

1:16:02 ↗ something

1:16:03 ↗ um I think that this is such an exciting

1:16:06 ↗ document as somebody who's been going

1:16:07 ↗ over policy for years I will tell you

1:16:09 ↗ this is very needed very good work great

1:16:12 ↗ place to start and there's a huge

1:16:14 ↗ discussion that needs to be had by this

1:16:17 ↗ board that we don't have time for

1:16:18 ↗ tonight so the easiest way I could tell

1:16:20 ↗ you is that I would love to see this

1:16:23 ↗ again with more time I would love for

1:16:25 ↗ staff to say take specific things and

1:16:28 ↗ talk to us whether we have a meeting

1:16:29 ↗ whether we have it over email I think

1:16:32 ↗ it's a very broad way for me to tell you

1:16:34 ↗ yes we want to see it again yes we want

1:16:37 ↗ to be able to talk about more of a micro

1:16:39 ↗ scale versus the macro we were asked for

1:16:42 ↗ tonight and that might be easier is to

1:16:44 ↗ say let's do a little more offline work

1:16:47 ↗ and see this again rather than trying to

1:16:50 ↗ consolidate it because there does seem

1:16:52 ↗ to be a little bit of a Time Factor so

1:16:53 ↗ if that helps us another direction to go

1:16:55 ↗ as well

1:16:59 ↗ okay

1:17:01 ↗ yeah it's very impressive great work

1:17:06 ↗ I think there's a lot of room for being

1:17:09 ↗ able to have a discussion that we don't

1:17:11 ↗ currently have the availability to have

1:17:13 ↗ tonight and so being able to say let's

1:17:15 ↗ start this dialogue and then let's

1:17:18 ↗ see where this next draft goes so that

1:17:21 ↗ we can collaborate and then be able to

1:17:23 ↗ say next draft and be able to have more

1:17:25 ↗ time enjoy and you're what you're saying

1:17:28 ↗ is that saying keep very high level

1:17:30 ↗ comments and if you have detailed

1:17:32 ↗ comments save them for later is that

1:17:33 ↗ with the caveat that we're coming

1:17:38 ↗ the application of what you're saying

1:17:40 ↗ if I don't know if that helps

1:17:43 ↗ Nancy

1:17:45 ↗ well I guess I wanted to start with

1:17:47 ↗ um the housing building and energy

1:17:49 ↗ policies and in just a general comment

1:17:53 ↗ it's a high level comment for you it

1:17:55 ↗ feels like single-family homes or duplex

1:17:58 ↗ you know this majority of what you see

1:18:00 ↗ in the city is not being hit very hard

1:18:02 ↗ and to achieve our climate objectives we

1:18:06 ↗ need to be talking and finding some way

1:18:07 ↗ to incentivize people to put Soul around

1:18:10 ↗ their homes to do other things and most

1:18:14 ↗ of this is directed for business and low

1:18:17 ↗ income but clearly that is not what the

1:18:21 ↗ City of Issaquah has the majority of its

1:18:24 ↗ housing and so I'm troubled that we are

1:18:27 ↗ not going after the biggest bang for our

1:18:29 ↗ buck which is somehow finding a way to

1:18:33 ↗ get residents to do something

1:18:35 ↗ differently and those policies have to

1:18:38 ↗ come across clear or we're never going

1:18:40 ↗ to achieve our objectives

1:18:42 ↗ so my my comments are high level but we

1:18:45 ↗ need more it's not enough

1:18:53 ↗ you know sometimes in different ways we

1:18:55 ↗ have different ways of doing it whether

1:18:56 ↗ we do snaps or hand raises I would like

1:18:58 ↗ to second that comment

1:18:59 ↗ um I think that we most certainly need

1:19:01 ↗ to keep the policies in place that we

1:19:03 ↗ have

1:19:04 ↗ um for uh for a diversity of our

1:19:06 ↗ population however we also need to

1:19:09 ↗ acknowledge that there needs to be a

1:19:10 ↗ path forward for people who may not hit

1:19:12 ↗ the income thresholds that we're setting

1:19:14 ↗ and so then what do we do for other

1:19:16 ↗ parts of our population to be able to

1:19:18 ↗ bring them along

1:19:20 ↗ um one thing that we um that we always

1:19:22 ↗ like to say at planning policy

1:19:23 ↗ commission is that the teeth is in the

1:19:26 ↗ code right so the policies really guide

1:19:29 ↗ that so the work that we're doing now

1:19:31 ↗ has a trickle-down effect right so when

1:19:33 ↗ we talk about the heat island effect and

1:19:35 ↗ we see houses going up with no trees

1:19:37 ↗ next to each other next to each other

1:19:38 ↗ when we write code we can't do much

1:19:40 ↗ about it right and so being able to call

1:19:43 ↗ out very specific policies by this board

1:19:45 ↗ to say hey this is how we mitigate it

1:19:46 ↗ because this is how we want to be able

1:19:48 ↗ to do this there's a lot of great

1:19:49 ↗ suggestions but to Nancy's point there

1:19:51 ↗ there seems to be need a lot of room and

1:19:53 ↗ a lot of movement that could happen on a

1:19:56 ↗ policy level to be able to get us where

1:19:58 ↗ we want to go when we're able to start

1:20:00 ↗ saying Hey how do we actually then

1:20:01 ↗ implement this and our expectations of

1:20:03 ↗ community members and Developers

1:20:10 ↗ um I had a couple comments I one I

1:20:12 ↗ really agree with Nancy on the single

1:20:15 ↗ family homes and

1:20:16 ↗ basically to move towards

1:20:17 ↗ electrification being really absent in

1:20:20 ↗ the comp plan

1:20:22 ↗ um I think

1:20:23 ↗ there's a there's a couple a bunch of

1:20:25 ↗ ways that we can talk about how you go

1:20:26 ↗ about it but I think

1:20:28 ↗ Hubbard

1:20:29 ↗ um complete electrification also is not

1:20:31 ↗ covered

1:20:33 ↗ um one thing that

1:20:35 ↗ the crossout of missing metal housing I

1:20:37 ↗ know it's part of a bigger thing like

1:20:39 ↗ isn't addressed in Title 18 update and

1:20:43 ↗ then purchasing policy and I don't know

1:20:45 ↗ where purchasing policy goes this is the

1:20:46 ↗ biggest category so I've thrown it in

1:20:48 ↗ here I think that's massively important

1:20:49 ↗ how that comes out I think that

1:20:55 ↗ in there so those would be the things

1:20:58 ↗ that seem like they're missing that

1:21:01 ↗ I'd love to discuss

1:21:06 ↗ what was the last one you mentioned

1:21:07 ↗ purchasing lawsuit you should know well

1:21:09 ↗ right

1:21:16 ↗ any other questions or comments on

1:21:21 ↗ the the sections that Stacy has up

1:21:24 ↗ at lumped in transportation

1:21:34 ↗ Nancy sorry

1:21:37 ↗ um as we talk about Transportation

1:21:40 ↗ um

1:21:42 ↗ as we all know the single we all like to

1:21:45 ↗ drive our cars I drove one over here

1:21:46 ↗ today so I get it you know but and I

1:21:50 ↗ think the metro stuff that you're doing

1:21:51 ↗ earlier you may have a mistake for this

1:21:52 ↗ conversation

1:21:55 ↗ I got the higher priority yes

1:21:59 ↗ but I just you know we are not really

1:22:01 ↗ addressing the issue of people on their

1:22:03 ↗ single family cars not only in the city

1:22:05 ↗ and or those driving through the city

1:22:08 ↗ you know to the South or to the north

1:22:10 ↗ you know we now have a new

1:22:12 ↗ Transportation Corridor through this

1:22:14 ↗ what Highlands that goes down to school

1:22:15 ↗ Harbor Hobart Road you know we've got to

1:22:18 ↗ find ways to deal with this in a

1:22:21 ↗ different way I appreciated that finally

1:22:23 ↗ we're talking about Bike Share and

1:22:25 ↗ scooter share in the city because many

1:22:28 ↗ of us could get around town a lot easier

1:22:30 ↗ on something like that than

1:22:34 ↗ um you know driving cars but I think we

1:22:36 ↗ are not we're looking at ourselves

1:22:39 ↗ and transportation is not just us it's

1:22:42 ↗ also those people commuting through this

1:22:45 ↗ community and I think we need to be

1:22:47 ↗ looking at that as well

1:22:52 ↗ go ahead

1:22:54 ↗ so I liked seeing that

1:22:57 ↗ um in the plan it went to motivate

1:23:01 ↗ businesses to you know have shuttles and

1:23:05 ↗ continued or go back to telecommuting I

1:23:08 ↗ think it's really important that the

1:23:11 ↗ large businesses in this area especially

1:23:13 ↗ the tech businesses understand that

1:23:18 ↗ um that

1:23:19 ↗ while they're currently trying to get

1:23:22 ↗ people to go back into the office and

1:23:24 ↗ demanding in some cases like with Amazon

1:23:26 ↗ people go back to the office that that

1:23:30 ↗ trickles out to the rest of the

1:23:32 ↗ community and it makes it so they cannot

1:23:35 ↗ they can't meet their climate goals but

1:23:37 ↗ then the cities in the county and the

1:23:39 ↗ state also can't meet their clinicals

1:23:42 ↗ um because people are getting in their

1:23:44 ↗ cars and even if they drive to Transit

1:23:48 ↗ they're logging up the streets and um

1:23:52 ↗ you know releasing greenhouse gases

1:23:55 ↗ rather than just being productive

1:23:57 ↗ and happy and getting to stay at home

1:23:59 ↗ and work

1:24:07 ↗ to that are you

1:24:09 ↗ well is that like an encouragement so

1:24:12 ↗ yeah I I think it's it's good I saw that

1:24:14 ↗ that is something that is in there but

1:24:18 ↗ like if they didn't start happening now

1:24:20 ↗ because

1:24:22 ↗ um

1:24:23 ↗ there are businesses

1:24:26 ↗ we're seeing people to go back to work

1:24:29 ↗ and why you know and so I think

1:24:33 ↗ if we could reach out to the city you

1:24:35 ↗ know any of those businesses that we

1:24:38 ↗ have in in the city and just say have a

1:24:41 ↗ conversation about it

1:24:43 ↗ really official if there are any maybe

1:24:46 ↗ they're all downtown

1:24:49 ↗ okay good

1:24:53 ↗ it's interesting I think there's also I

1:24:56 ↗ don't know how to do this but having

1:24:57 ↗ just coming back from Europe

1:25:00 ↗ you see a lot of traffic circles and you

1:25:03 ↗ see they built all across the state of

1:25:04 ↗ Washington to reduce the amount of time

1:25:06 ↗ cars are spent idling in interceptions

1:25:09 ↗ and so it's a structural fix to a

1:25:12 ↗ problem but you know if we're going to

1:25:14 ↗ it's I think it makes the air pollution

1:25:17 ↗ less it reduces the use of you know

1:25:21 ↗ carbon based you know fuels so we need

1:25:24 ↗ to start thinking about how we design

1:25:26 ↗ our intersections in a different way and

1:25:29 ↗ there's probably a policy in there you

1:25:31 ↗ know to look at ways to reduce the

1:25:34 ↗ amount of infrastructure that stopped at

1:25:37 ↗ stop lights

1:25:39 ↗ or better infrastructure as we're

1:25:41 ↗ redesigning Newport Way put in traffic

1:25:43 ↗ circles to get people around in order to

1:25:46 ↗ redesigning these roads we need to think

1:25:48 ↗ about Transportation differently

1:25:54 ↗ yeah

1:25:55 ↗ yeah oh to piggyback on that when um to

1:25:58 ↗ give an example of why I think there's a

1:26:00 ↗ larger discussion to be had about the

1:26:01 ↗ built environment what Ann and Nancy are

1:26:04 ↗ talking about

1:26:04 ↗ um really goes to the heart of how we

1:26:06 ↗ how we plan to build our communities

1:26:07 ↗ right there's a very vested interest in

1:26:10 ↗ having people return to work in Lake

1:26:11 ↗ Union because two particular landowners

1:26:14 ↗ own most of it build the environment to

1:26:16 ↗ service one particular need and when

1:26:18 ↗ obviously the pandemic impacted that

1:26:20 ↗ then there was a collapse of the area

1:26:22 ↗ right so when we look at the fact that

1:26:25 ↗ old town is a food desert and people

1:26:27 ↗ have to get into a vehicle to be able to

1:26:30 ↗ life how do we change and have an impact

1:26:33 ↗ of saying this is important to us right

1:26:35 ↗ um like food security is sold out in

1:26:38 ↗ this in this document how do we actually

1:26:40 ↗ have these policies that support this so

1:26:42 ↗ that we can create code that says this

1:26:44 ↗ is how we can do this rather than having

1:26:46 ↗ massive 10 000 square foot grocery

1:26:48 ↗ stores allowed everywhere how do we be

1:26:50 ↗ able to have

1:26:52 ↗ um food in all places of our community

1:26:54 ↗ without having these disparities of

1:26:57 ↗ square footage in our code right so

1:26:59 ↗ there's a very real impact of these

1:27:01 ↗ policies of our built environment and

1:27:04 ↗ how do we have each unique neighborhood

1:27:06 ↗ in Issaquah keep their character and be

1:27:08 ↗ able to have you stay in your

1:27:10 ↗ neighborhood and be able to go get a cup

1:27:11 ↗ of coffee to meet with friends to be

1:27:13 ↗ able to have the services that you need

1:27:15 ↗ on your day-to-day basis without having

1:27:17 ↗ to get into a car and that is directly

1:27:20 ↗ tied to code right that's how we do that

1:27:22 ↗ and so

1:27:24 ↗ um I think that there are these are

1:27:25 ↗ great examples of what I'm saying of why

1:27:27 ↗ there's these larger discussions to be

1:27:29 ↗ had about how we do it on a policy level

1:27:31 ↗ right to be able to get to these larger

1:27:35 ↗ pools

1:27:45 ↗ buildings energy transportation

1:27:54 ↗ you could

1:27:57 ↗ so

1:27:59 ↗ um

1:28:02 ↗ I'm wondering if Issaquah has done their

1:28:04 ↗ building assessment yet

1:28:07 ↗ oh God

1:28:08 ↗ for city building yeah it is

1:28:12 ↗ plans you feel something going under a

1:28:15 ↗ contract yeah you'll hear that

1:28:18 ↗ I'll be presenting uh next month and

1:28:21 ↗ about where all of that is at and uh

1:28:24 ↗ it is not

1:28:25 ↗ started yet but um there's been a lot of

1:28:31 ↗ them think about so

1:28:33 ↗ um

1:28:35 ↗ so Issaquah has a lot of buildings

1:28:38 ↗ and

1:28:40 ↗ um so I think to think about

1:28:44 ↗ are we utilizing all the space in all

1:28:47 ↗ the buildings you know all the time and

1:28:51 ↗ um if

1:28:52 ↗ which buildings what might we be able to

1:28:55 ↗ let go of and if we let go of those

1:28:58 ↗ buildings how much

1:29:00 ↗ um are we reducing our carbon footprint

1:29:03 ↗ how much money are we saving and how

1:29:05 ↗ much money are we gaining that we can

1:29:07 ↗ potentially then put to retrofit the

1:29:11 ↗ other buildings that we have

1:29:15 ↗ but sometimes

1:29:17 ↗ I hate myself no that's great and I

1:29:20 ↗ think David's going to give a quick

1:29:22 ↗ preview then to this meeting about what

1:29:24 ↗ we'll do

1:29:31 ↗ okay

1:29:33 ↗ um

1:29:34 ↗ any feedback on Green Space tree canopy

1:29:37 ↗ sensitive ecosystems again I I'd love

1:29:40 ↗ these they show up separately in the

1:29:42 ↗ policy

1:29:43 ↗ policies for discussion

1:29:46 ↗ won't these overlap with those

1:29:48 ↗ environmental policies though that we're

1:29:50 ↗ talking about so I mean that's what

1:29:52 ↗ troubled me is these are environmental

1:29:55 ↗ policies they are not understood I mean

1:29:58 ↗ the fire is

1:30:00 ↗ but most of these as I read them are

1:30:04 ↗ environmental policies yeah and that's

1:30:06 ↗ where I think staff will need to look at

1:30:08 ↗ what What policies live throughout the

1:30:11 ↗ comprehensive plan that are going to

1:30:13 ↗ come into this new element how do they

1:30:16 ↗ mesh with these proposed policies and

1:30:18 ↗ requirements from the state so that

1:30:20 ↗ there's a lot of work to do to

1:30:22 ↗ consolidate consolidate where

1:30:24 ↗ appropriate but and awesome

1:30:27 ↗ so do you really want our comments on

1:30:30 ↗ this or are we waiting for the

1:30:31 ↗ environmental piece or How's that gonna

1:30:33 ↗ fight come together I think we want

1:30:36 ↗ these have

1:30:38 ↗ um

1:30:38 ↗ these policies are really informed by

1:30:43 ↗ the vulnerability assessment as well as

1:30:45 ↗ the state requirements for mitigation

1:30:48 ↗ and resilience so I think if you do have

1:30:52 ↗ feedback since we haven't brought those

1:30:54 ↗ other policies to you yet that would be

1:30:56 ↗ great to have

1:31:00 ↗ okay

1:31:01 ↗ um I would love to direct my comments

1:31:03 ↗ that on this section specifically to

1:31:04 ↗ talking about tree canopy one of the

1:31:07 ↗ benefits of just coming off of Title 18

1:31:08 ↗ is that we did some work on our code for

1:31:11 ↗ tree canopy and a big part of that that

1:31:13 ↗ we saw is that we are in trouble with

1:31:15 ↗ how we Define our trees right we don't

1:31:19 ↗ have a good definition if you follow the

1:31:22 ↗ defining of trees you would know that

1:31:24 ↗ President Biden has directed The FEDS to

1:31:26 ↗ be able to actually say what is this

1:31:28 ↗ because nobody seems to be able to say

1:31:30 ↗ what is a Heritage tree how is it that

1:31:31 ↗ we need to do we know we need

1:31:32 ↗ protections and what does that look like

1:31:34 ↗ so rather than waiting to be told we

1:31:38 ↗ need to have physical policies in place

1:31:40 ↗ that actually be able to Define when are

1:31:42 ↗ you able to clear-cut Old growth trees

1:31:44 ↗ to put in solar panels for instance

1:31:46 ↗ right maybe not all properties are meant

1:31:49 ↗ to have all features at one time right

1:31:52 ↗ and how do we balance those things

1:31:53 ↗ policy needs to help guide this

1:31:55 ↗ discussion in a way that we haven't been

1:31:57 ↗ able to

1:31:58 ↗ um on the code side with tree canopy

1:32:00 ↗ because we have tree canopy goals right

1:32:03 ↗ we increased it by a couple percent

1:32:05 ↗ recently that's nice

1:32:07 ↗ um how do we measure trees how do we be

1:32:09 ↗ able to say

1:32:10 ↗ um the difference between being able to

1:32:11 ↗ plant a tree what it is now what it's

1:32:13 ↗ expected to be in 20 years as we have

1:32:16 ↗ issues with our climate resiliency how

1:32:18 ↗ does the fate of that tree going to be

1:32:19 ↗ and then how do we count that in our

1:32:21 ↗ canopy there's a lot of nuance to trees

1:32:24 ↗ that if you haven't dived in boy is it

1:32:26 ↗ fun and I think that this is a great

1:32:28 ↗ example of where our policy can start to

1:32:30 ↗ get a lot more fine-tooth and be able to

1:32:33 ↗ direct

1:32:34 ↗ um where as a community are we going to

1:32:36 ↗ be putting in policy protections for

1:32:39 ↗ something that we know is so highly

1:32:40 ↗ valued within our community

1:32:43 ↗ um I'm going to give a direct example

1:32:45 ↗ for this

1:32:46 ↗ um that I will say as a personal push is

1:32:48 ↗ to say that I believe that this Forge to

1:32:51 ↗ talk about things if it's a drastic like

1:32:53 ↗ Banning bonds right there's the idea in

1:32:55 ↗ a lot of communities it's already

1:32:57 ↗ happened to basically grandfather and

1:32:59 ↗ existing Lawns no new develop equipment

1:33:01 ↗ of Lawns right we know they're a huge

1:33:03 ↗ resource issue they delve chemicals into

1:33:06 ↗ our environment there's really not a lot

1:33:08 ↗ of positives they're also terrible for

1:33:10 ↗ fire breaks right moss sedums and

1:33:13 ↗ succulents are much better fire breaks

1:33:14 ↗ as well so

1:33:16 ↗ um there needs to be policies that

1:33:18 ↗ actually address

1:33:19 ↗ um hey we have these issues

1:33:22 ↗ um that are grandstanding what are a new

1:33:25 ↗ way of thinking about things that right

1:33:26 ↗ now we're not able to do because we

1:33:28 ↗ don't have the policies in place and I

1:33:30 ↗ think that there's a robust discussion

1:33:31 ↗ to be had about how we move forward of

1:33:34 ↗ saying new development needs to have a

1:33:36 ↗ different standard in a new operating

1:33:38 ↗ menu

1:33:42 ↗ and I can't remember if you

1:33:44 ↗ said still up from a previous comment

1:33:47 ↗ I'm not sure if the fire prevented this

1:33:51 ↗ is in this category or not but I just

1:33:54 ↗ really liked seeing

1:33:57 ↗ all of the new Fire

1:33:59 ↗ education

1:34:04 ↗ much appreciated

1:34:06 ↗ that was a lot of that was based on

1:34:08 ↗ feedback from the board meeting awesome

1:34:13 ↗ Stacy I have one comment and it's not

1:34:15 ↗ actually specific to this section but

1:34:16 ↗ it's just an observation from I think

1:34:18 ↗ how this conversation oh we'll go to

1:34:20 ↗ Alex for me

1:34:22 ↗ um

1:34:22 ↗ this does kind of go back to our

1:34:24 ↗ feedback that we provided the com plan

1:34:27 ↗ initial kind of frame up which is

1:34:30 ↗ how are we thinking about natural

1:34:31 ↗ environment topics versus climate and

1:34:34 ↗ we're talking about climate and I don't

1:34:36 ↗ know if that's intentional to separate

1:34:38 ↗ the two but like

1:34:39 ↗ it does feel like

1:34:41 ↗ we either need to figure out the

1:34:42 ↗ boundaries of the two or combine them in

1:34:45 ↗ a way that Nancy doesn't feel like she's

1:34:47 ↗ not sure what the bounds of what we're

1:34:49 ↗ talking about are so I think that that's

1:34:51 ↗ that's something and I don't know I

1:34:54 ↗ think that obviously there's a huge

1:34:55 ↗ topic area there but I do think this

1:34:58 ↗ gets back to where what the board's

1:35:00 ↗ feedback was which is we feel

1:35:01 ↗ uncomfortable with some things kind of

1:35:03 ↗ being at odds within those two different

1:35:05 ↗ topics and then we're also discussing

1:35:07 ↗ them separately so I think

1:35:09 ↗ making a decision and really figuring

1:35:12 ↗ out it doesn't make sense for those to

1:35:13 ↗ be the same that's more criteria I think

1:35:16 ↗ where they were combined but how how

1:35:18 ↗ should this really live and taking a

1:35:20 ↗ step back and thinking about how climate

1:35:22 ↗ and National environment topics kind of

1:35:24 ↗ come together in the comp plan feels

1:35:26 ↗ like a conversation

1:35:28 ↗ like in itself that that we may want to

1:35:31 ↗ have

1:35:32 ↗ some support isn't it all intertwined

1:35:36 ↗ though but if you have them separate

1:35:38 ↗ they're not separate topics I agree with

1:35:40 ↗ you they're not so they have to be

1:35:42 ↗ together but this isn't the complete

1:35:44 ↗ environmental package either so that's

1:35:46 ↗ the problem it's only a small piece of

1:35:49 ↗ it that needs to be addressed

1:35:51 ↗ I see absolutely yeah and I think there

1:35:54 ↗ was some interest in having this

1:35:55 ↗ discussed separately but I see that it's

1:35:57 ↗ and we're really trying to go in with

1:36:00 ↗ these policies with the climate lens so

1:36:02 ↗ if we're looking at trees we're thinking

1:36:04 ↗ about trees from the mitigation aspect

1:36:07 ↗ or eventeries removal of trees for the

1:36:10 ↗ fire aspect but I think that's something

1:36:13 ↗ we can talk with Stephen about for that

1:36:15 ↗ conversation he's here

1:36:18 ↗ um making it a a bigger conversation

1:36:20 ↗ when we're looking at all these as a

1:36:22 ↗ package

1:36:24 ↗ whatever I know Alex school next but I

1:36:25 ↗ guess I just want it since we're having

1:36:27 ↗ this sorry Alex just one sec

1:36:30 ↗ um you know we had we really had three

1:36:32 ↗ pretty good dialogues we talked about

1:36:34 ↗ Title 18 and it had a pretty good

1:36:38 ↗ structure in terms of topics

1:36:43 ↗ um and perhaps going back and looking at

1:36:45 ↗ those topics and how it was how these

1:36:47 ↗ would fit into that without us instead

1:36:50 ↗ of having us talk about climate because

1:36:53 ↗ really we really focused on those areas

1:36:55 ↗ I'm just trying to think of a better way

1:36:57 ↗ to do this

1:37:00 ↗ shout out if you haven't read the comp

1:37:02 ↗ plan that's a good place to start

1:37:07 ↗ all right Alex go ahead

1:37:09 ↗ I think my comments are just going to be

1:37:11 ↗ more additive to everything that you've

1:37:13 ↗ said in that I think in this section it

1:37:15 ↗ calls out a lot of forests and things

1:37:17 ↗ but you're missing like Wetland areas

1:37:19 ↗ and riparian areas specifically called

1:37:21 ↗ out as climate resilience adaptations

1:37:24 ↗ and things like that and really having

1:37:25 ↗ the city focus on

1:37:27 ↗ even the other thing I see missing is

1:37:30 ↗ just private working with private

1:37:31 ↗ landowners in this section or

1:37:33 ↗ encouraging private landowners to to

1:37:35 ↗ improve habitat on their land it seems

1:37:37 ↗ like it's focused entirely on City

1:37:40 ↗ Properties or public properties and so

1:37:42 ↗ there needs to really be more um

1:37:44 ↗ integration with with how the city

1:37:46 ↗ integrate works with its community

1:37:48 ↗ members too on some of these topics

1:38:00 ↗ great yeah and I think some of those

1:38:02 ↗ conversation is kind of testing out how

1:38:04 ↗ this would work to have a as a separate

1:38:06 ↗ conversation it sounds like maybe we're

1:38:08 ↗ going back more to the integrated one so

1:38:10 ↗ I think we'll start knowing that we need

1:38:13 ↗ many more conversation strategies so

1:38:14 ↗ stupid on how to move that forward yeah

1:38:17 ↗ and then Nancy's Planet using Title 18

1:38:19 ↗ there would there would be a topic that

1:38:21 ↗ could be covered in different sections

1:38:23 ↗ but it and so there might be an

1:38:25 ↗ environmental there might be a climate

1:38:27 ↗ section but then tree canopy might be

1:38:29 ↗ covered differently in climate than it's

1:38:31 ↗ covered in natural environments so just

1:38:34 ↗ I do think the title 18 did a pretty

1:38:36 ↗ good job there was times it was but

1:38:37 ↗ generally

1:38:39 ↗ even when there was topics that cross

1:38:40 ↗ multiple categories that was clear and

1:38:42 ↗ it was done together even if they are

1:38:45 ↗ entirely different topics within the

1:38:47 ↗ broader comp plan so I don't think it

1:38:50 ↗ necessarily means they have to be

1:38:51 ↗ combined but doing them one at a time is

1:38:56 ↗ I like the tiered system yeah

1:38:58 ↗ prioritizing and the color coding

1:39:03 ↗ maybe that worked really well although

1:39:05 ↗ I'm not colorblind

1:39:12 ↗ there was one thing on Page Six

1:39:18 ↗ uh

1:39:20 ↗ warmer temperatures and heat waves

1:39:23 ↗ and

1:39:24 ↗ that would affect the built environment

1:39:26 ↗ the natural systems but for some reason

1:39:28 ↗ water it doesn't affect water resources

1:39:31 ↗ it doesn't have one for water resources

1:39:33 ↗ and I'm wondering if

1:39:34 ↗ if it should because

1:39:37 ↗ with warmer temperatures and heat waves

1:39:40 ↗ Water Resources could get

1:39:45 ↗ diminished

1:39:47 ↗ although it is under droughts so maybe

1:39:50 ↗ that's

1:39:54 ↗ are you thinking particularly around

1:39:55 ↗ water supply impact or both water supply

1:39:59 ↗ and then

1:40:01 ↗ also

1:40:02 ↗ [Music]

1:40:04 ↗ with lakes and ponds streams if if that

1:40:08 ↗ Water Resource is the same

1:40:11 ↗ it can affect

1:40:13 ↗ everyone living in the letter

1:40:21 ↗ I just wanted to check I saw your hand

1:40:24 ↗ go up for a second

1:40:25 ↗ did you have a comment

1:40:27 ↗ um no sorry that was um oh whatever I

1:40:30 ↗ wanted to say actually did get covered

1:40:32 ↗ by most of the people talk now so I'm

1:40:35 ↗ good thank you

1:40:38 ↗ thank you so uh water I think this is

1:40:41 ↗ actually one of the more problematic

1:40:43 ↗ sections in the document in that it

1:40:45 ↗ needs

1:40:46 ↗ more coverage and policy wise

1:40:49 ↗ um for instance on page 101 I think

1:40:51 ↗ would be a great place to talk about

1:40:52 ↗ Cara right our groundwater recharge

1:40:55 ↗ areas

1:40:56 ↗ um as needing to be further monitored

1:40:58 ↗ right we did a nice amazing update of

1:41:01 ↗ Cara and Title 18

1:41:03 ↗ um and it's something that needs to not

1:41:05 ↗ um go Hawaii as we did it and checked

1:41:07 ↗ off the list we know that with um

1:41:10 ↗ with a changing environment right now

1:41:12 ↗ that uh the most likely what's going to

1:41:15 ↗ end up happening is we're going to be

1:41:16 ↗ tapping into our groundwater

1:41:18 ↗ um to a much higher degree right when

1:41:20 ↗ you start having a change in

1:41:21 ↗ precipitation and in the water cycle as

1:41:23 ↗ we know it's happening

1:41:25 ↗ um right now

1:41:26 ↗ um from uh from a policy perspective we

1:41:29 ↗ don't have a water issue because we buy

1:41:31 ↗ in water from the Cascade water Alliance

1:41:33 ↗ from an environmental perspective we

1:41:35 ↗ have a huge water issue that we have way

1:41:37 ↗ more consumption than we're possibly

1:41:38 ↗ able to hold so while we have been able

1:41:41 ↗ to compensate and deal with that we

1:41:44 ↗ still have massive issues whether we

1:41:45 ↗ think about storage when we think about

1:41:47 ↗ self-resilience so policies that still

1:41:51 ↗ need to be developed to address those

1:41:52 ↗ things

1:41:53 ↗ specifically too to be able to talk

1:41:55 ↗ about I know that um you mentioned that

1:41:58 ↗ there was some some classifications and

1:42:00 ↗ right now it's put down to low on the

1:42:02 ↗ super and septic actually when we were

1:42:05 ↗ um as we've been talking about the

1:42:07 ↗ surface water storm water and wastewater

1:42:09 ↗ master plan that is is severely outdated

1:42:12 ↗ needing to be addressed right so I was

1:42:14 ↗ kind of surprised at our policies

1:42:16 ↗ um were a little bit light in that area

1:42:17 ↗ and that they were classified as they

1:42:19 ↗ were we know that we have septic systems

1:42:21 ↗ that are aging and vulnerable to

1:42:22 ↗ flooding

1:42:23 ↗ um so I would have and again I didn't

1:42:25 ↗ see the assessment I would love to have

1:42:27 ↗ the assessment right to be able to

1:42:28 ↗ better understand but I would have

1:42:30 ↗ changed some of those designations a

1:42:31 ↗ little bit just based on the knowledge

1:42:33 ↗ that I've been lucky enough to be able

1:42:34 ↗ to have from working with our water

1:42:36 ↗ department and the things that they've

1:42:38 ↗ told us about what we need to prepare

1:42:40 ↗ for

1:42:41 ↗ um so I think it's really interesting

1:42:43 ↗ when we talk about

1:42:45 ↗ um being able to protect um like like

1:42:47 ↗ Alex called out I think there needs to

1:42:49 ↗ be specific language that uh talks

1:42:51 ↗ specifically about

1:42:53 ↗ um our our protection of bogs and

1:42:56 ↗ wetlands um and what we know

1:42:59 ↗ specifically from staff is that when we

1:43:01 ↗ were addressing Title 18 we were able to

1:43:03 ↗ extend the buffers uh for for Bill to

1:43:07 ↗ um when we were talking about

1:43:09 ↗ um different waterways however that is

1:43:12 ↗ based on some outdated information that

1:43:15 ↗ is the best that we can do right now and

1:43:17 ↗ through discussions with with Minnie and

1:43:20 ↗ you know with wormick what we found is

1:43:22 ↗ that actually

1:43:23 ↗ we're operating on what we think is the

1:43:26 ↗ best available science but we actually

1:43:28 ↗ have been able to dedicate resources to

1:43:30 ↗ the city to be able to better understand

1:43:32 ↗ uh the impact of our build too with our

1:43:35 ↗ various waterways and so that there's

1:43:37 ↗ actually funding that needs to happen by

1:43:40 ↗ Council for the administration to be

1:43:42 ↗ able to better manage this which means

1:43:45 ↗ that we need policies in place to be

1:43:46 ↗ able to support that

1:43:48 ↗ um and so again bogs and wetlands being

1:43:50 ↗ called out so that we have a better

1:43:52 ↗ understanding of how we're impacting

1:43:55 ↗ um water

1:43:56 ↗ um I appreciate it on a policy

1:43:58 ↗ perspective

1:44:07 ↗ we'll have our water team here next

1:44:11 ↗ month to talk about the uh

1:44:15 ↗ okay

1:44:18 ↗ we have about

1:44:20 ↗ five minutes left so it might just jump

1:44:24 ↗ over to again with mushdie's Public

1:44:27 ↗ Health social services Emergency

1:44:28 ↗ Services

1:44:30 ↗ and then the last one we'll touch on is

1:44:33 ↗ local Regional economy

1:44:42 ↗ Nancy so I just have a general question

1:44:44 ↗ you know the legislature passed a piece

1:44:47 ↗ of legislation that said single family

1:44:49 ↗ lots could now have four units per lot

1:44:52 ↗ something like that along that so all

1:44:55 ↗ the comp plan to just addressed that and

1:44:57 ↗ then will the trickle down of the

1:44:59 ↗ impacts on water supply Wastewater and

1:45:01 ↗ all that also have to be addressed

1:45:04 ↗ my understandings that applies to

1:45:06 ↗ communities over

1:45:08 ↗ 75000 Joy might know I say I didn't know

1:45:11 ↗ that I thought it

1:45:14 ↗ not the same way that it will affect

1:45:16 ↗ Seattle

1:45:22 ↗ better we put it so from my

1:45:24 ↗ understanding we don't need to do any

1:45:25 ↗ updates but um we do need to be vigilant

1:45:29 ↗ about how uh neighboring communities are

1:45:31 ↗ impacted and be able to kind of better

1:45:33 ↗ understand because it will be a good

1:45:36 ↗ understanding of how we want to address

1:45:37 ↗ missing middle right

1:45:39 ↗ um and so like all kind of ties in but

1:45:41 ↗ right now I think we're in a week okay I

1:45:43 ↗ didn't know that so thank you I

1:45:45 ↗ appreciate that clarification and HOA is

1:45:47 ↗ our example

1:45:49 ↗ maybe the whole city should be an HOA

1:45:58 ↗ it does talk about in here there's some

1:46:01 ↗ like you know encourage local you know

1:46:03 ↗ encouraged to talk about the community

1:46:04 ↗ about this and I'm just wondering if

1:46:06 ↗ education

1:46:07 ↗ to me it always comes back to education

1:46:09 ↗ like we talk about these things big

1:46:11 ↗ topics that I don't think most people

1:46:13 ↗ understand and

1:46:15 ↗ um and most people are the people that

1:46:17 ↗ this applies to

1:46:18 ↗ so like does does education need to

1:46:21 ↗ actually be a separate called out

1:46:24 ↗ um like how are we going

1:46:26 ↗ like for example talking about

1:46:29 ↗ um you know we shouldn't have lots right

1:46:31 ↗ like those of us who

1:46:33 ↗ are in this world might go yeah that's

1:46:35 ↗ total sense but good luck getting

1:46:37 ↗ everybody behind you on that so like do

1:46:40 ↗ we need to actually stay somewhere in

1:46:43 ↗ here like that we're gonna actually put

1:46:45 ↗ some um

1:46:46 ↗ you know energy into not just like on

1:46:49 ↗ each of these topics we're gonna we're

1:46:51 ↗ gonna we're gonna do a little marketing

1:46:53 ↗ I'm gonna teach you about this but like

1:46:54 ↗ what does it actually look like if we

1:46:55 ↗ want to really teach our community about

1:46:57 ↗ why this is important

1:47:00 ↗ um you know maybe I don't know what that

1:47:01 ↗ looks like but

1:47:03 ↗ might be an interesting thing to think

1:47:05 ↗ about

1:47:08 ↗ if you don't mind me pick the kid piggy

1:47:10 ↗ banking on Dixie's comment um what I

1:47:12 ↗ have is policies to increase Community

1:47:13 ↗ engagement with neighborhoods directly

1:47:15 ↗ for individual neighborhoods to better

1:47:17 ↗ Thrive and adapt uh so right now that

1:47:20 ↗ might be having a policy that says we

1:47:23 ↗ need to have

1:47:24 ↗ um neighborhood Liaisons right we have

1:47:26 ↗ had programs of the past that for some

1:47:28 ↗ reason haven't been able to be funded

1:47:30 ↗ and be able to be staffed and so they've

1:47:32 ↗ gone to the Wayside and really we know

1:47:34 ↗ that one of the greatest ways to be able

1:47:35 ↗ to do education and to be able to have

1:47:37 ↗ more Community involvement is to

1:47:39 ↗ actually interact in our community right

1:47:40 ↗ so this is one wonderful space and

1:47:42 ↗ there's words of commissions for the

1:47:43 ↗ community to come

1:47:45 ↗ um and having policies that help support

1:47:47 ↗ giving avenues for the public to be able

1:47:50 ↗ to engage in their own government is a

1:47:53 ↗ fantastic policy I don't know

1:47:59 ↗ go ahead

1:48:01 ↗ yeah just to add the couple of comments

1:48:04 ↗ before uh Stacy I was thinking about it

1:48:06 ↗ when Nancy was talking about it earlier

1:48:08 ↗ as well

1:48:09 ↗ um I think one way and I'm not sure if

1:48:11 ↗ this is the document but one way to you

1:48:13 ↗ know increase that Outreach or you know

1:48:16 ↗ have the neighborhoods communities local

1:48:19 ↗ businesses involved in it is actually

1:48:22 ↗ providing sustainability or carbon

1:48:24 ↗ incentives or you know some kind of that

1:48:27 ↗ for the businesses or neighborhoods or

1:48:30 ↗ you know residents where you know you

1:48:32 ↗ say the more you you you adapt some

1:48:35 ↗ sustainability goals you know reduce

1:48:37 ↗ your energy consumption reduce your

1:48:39 ↗ greenhouse gas consumption to more

1:48:42 ↗ sustainable practices and you know there

1:48:44 ↗ could be some language I don't know if

1:48:46 ↗ this is the place to do it but that

1:48:49 ↗ policy or code could be built by the

1:48:52 ↗ city which actually provides some carbon

1:48:55 ↗ incentives or sustainability incentives

1:48:57 ↗ for the local businesses as well as the

1:49:00 ↗ residents and specifically going back I

1:49:03 ↗ think Nancy had brought this up or Anne

1:49:06 ↗ had brought this up about including the

1:49:08 ↗ businesses you know the bigger

1:49:10 ↗ businesses asking them to chip in and I

1:49:13 ↗ think that's where the you know the

1:49:15 ↗ carbon incentives or specific goals

1:49:17 ↗ would be really useful and the

1:49:20 ↗ businesses

1:49:22 ↗ um can do that you know they will play a

1:49:24 ↗ huge part of it and the city can provide

1:49:27 ↗ them incentives in some ways where they

1:49:30 ↗ are required or motivated to do that

1:49:41 ↗ this just to end on a high note I love

1:49:44 ↗ seeing the recycling compost mandate so

1:49:46 ↗ that that's uh that was great to see in

1:49:49 ↗ there

1:49:50 ↗ um so I think if there's any other

1:49:52 ↗ follow-ups that these topics will be

1:49:54 ↗ coming back and obviously if there's any

1:49:55 ↗ comments that yeah that you'd like to

1:49:58 ↗ get into Stacy's hands before then

1:50:01 ↗ email would be the best option for that

1:50:03 ↗ but sounds like we will have the

1:50:04 ↗ opportunity to talk about this so follow

1:50:07 ↗ up on that

1:50:09 ↗ yeah I think Junior check in tomorrow so

1:50:11 ↗ we can talk about next steps and then a

1:50:14 ↗ little circle around with our conference

1:50:16 ↗ team and figure out how to to move this

1:50:19 ↗ forward

1:50:21 ↗ the very least of the August

1:50:22 ↗ conversation we can discuss if we need

1:50:25 ↗ to do some kind of working meeting or

1:50:27 ↗ special meeting on the way

1:50:29 ↗ try to commit not to have a many more of

1:50:32 ↗ those of the board since you had quite a

1:50:34 ↗ few loose springs so

1:50:37 ↗ um great well I think that that's really

1:50:39 ↗ our next step take this initial feedback

1:50:41 ↗ and then we'll come back to you with our

1:50:43 ↗ plan for engagement uh going forward

1:50:46 ↗ I'll try and all that out to the group

1:50:47 ↗ ahead of our July meeting

1:50:51 ↗ and it's so good to see all of this yeah

1:50:53 ↗ yeah yes this is a lot of work

1:50:57 ↗ well thank you yeah I'll pass that on

1:50:59 ↗ our consultant team essentially finished

1:51:01 ↗ up

1:51:02 ↗ finish this up tomorrow so um

1:51:07 ↗ as well complete right well I think with

1:51:10 ↗ that we had wrapped up our regular 10

1:51:12 ↗ items and we'll move on to reports

1:51:15 ↗ um first one being lead for cities

1:51:17 ↗ certification

1:51:19 ↗ great um So within the pocket there is

1:51:22 ↗ uh just a brief report around our need

1:51:26 ↗ for cities uh many of you had a chance

1:51:29 ↗ to meet Lee the intern that is something

1:51:33 ↗ he'd really been working on for the last

1:51:35 ↗ year

1:51:36 ↗ um we participated in this uh cohort of

1:51:39 ↗ 15 cities from across the country over

1:51:43 ↗ the last year to submit our application

1:51:45 ↗ to become a lead certified City it looks

1:51:48 ↗ across our entire city from access to

1:51:53 ↗ Green Space to Quality of Life our water

1:51:56 ↗ system waste management system

1:52:00 ↗ and we were certified gold a few weeks

1:52:03 ↗ ago we haven't done any public

1:52:06 ↗ announcement yet about it we're planning

1:52:08 ↗ on doing a big event July 24th I believe

1:52:12 ↗ is the date you'll receive an invitation

1:52:14 ↗ to that I'm in the coming weeks and then

1:52:17 ↗ we'll do some a lot of publicity Public

1:52:20 ↗ Announcement coming

1:52:22 ↗ upcoming event

1:52:23 ↗ um so it's a great kind of report card

1:52:26 ↗ on where the city is and I think a lot

1:52:28 ↗ of the value that we saw going through

1:52:30 ↗ the process

1:52:31 ↗ this last year was to see how we compare

1:52:34 ↗ with other communities where we're doing

1:52:36 ↗ well but also to identify some of the

1:52:38 ↗ gaps

1:52:40 ↗ so David

1:52:43 ↗ to talk about where we didn't score very

1:52:46 ↗ strongly and where we could make some um

1:52:49 ↗ improvements and they're already working

1:52:51 ↗ on

1:52:52 ↗ the near Church

1:52:54 ↗ I'm excited that we reach gold we are

1:52:56 ↗ actually really close to platinum

1:52:58 ↗ um

1:52:59 ↗ so we'll continue moving forward to some

1:53:02 ↗ of the areas where we had gaps and look

1:53:04 ↗ forward to celebrating with you all and

1:53:07 ↗ other members of the community

1:53:11 ↗ great and then um I think David we

1:53:14 ↗ didn't talk before I think was going to

1:53:15 ↗ provide just a couple updates on some

1:53:17 ↗ items he's working on and uh something

1:53:20 ↗ he'll be bringing to

1:53:22 ↗ you tomorrow

1:53:23 ↗ yeah I can just do quick updates and let

1:53:26 ↗ me know if I can forget anything but

1:53:28 ↗ um next month I uh will bring back uh

1:53:32 ↗ something that I briefly touched base

1:53:34 ↗ with everyone on earlier this spring

1:53:36 ↗ which was the um decarbonization

1:53:39 ↗ resolution

1:53:41 ↗ um for city council to consider

1:53:44 ↗ um and thinking about uh some of the

1:53:47 ↗ comments that we received when we first

1:53:48 ↗ mentioned it

1:53:50 ↗ um I thought I would come back with kind

1:53:52 ↗ of putting this decarbonization

1:53:54 ↗ resolution that we're uh considering

1:53:56 ↗ within the context of all the other

1:53:58 ↗ facilities work that we are doing

1:54:00 ↗ because there is a lot of work that our

1:54:03 ↗ facilities team is doing

1:54:05 ↗ um in coordination with us so

1:54:07 ↗ uh hopefully the the plan is to give

1:54:10 ↗ kind of an overview of the different

1:54:12 ↗ assessments and efforts around

1:54:16 ↗ um

1:54:17 ↗ taking taking a hard look at our

1:54:19 ↗ facility

1:54:20 ↗ trying to think about how uh our built

1:54:23 ↗ environments uh our building buildings

1:54:26 ↗ in the built environment have an impact

1:54:28 ↗ on climate

1:54:30 ↗ um and seeing how all of these different

1:54:32 ↗ pieces kind of work together so I will

1:54:35 ↗ be coming back with more of a

1:54:38 ↗ presentation next month on that

1:54:42 ↗ and then we will also be kind of diving

1:54:44 ↗ into that decarbonization resolution and

1:54:46 ↗ asking uh for thoughts comments and

1:54:50 ↗ eventually

1:54:51 ↗ um

1:54:52 ↗ some thoughts for Council to consider

1:54:56 ↗ it's very exciting yeah thank you so

1:54:59 ↗ that'll be one of our topics for July

1:55:00 ↗ and then the other one

1:55:02 ↗ um Matt Ellis and team will be here to

1:55:04 ↗ talk about the Sewer Master Plan okay so

1:55:07 ↗ we are major topics

1:55:12 ↗ awesome

1:55:13 ↗ right any other business

1:55:18 ↗ are we on track for the tour tomorrow

1:55:21 ↗ yes yeah for those that can make their

1:55:24 ↗ Recology tour if it starts

1:55:27 ↗ at noon

1:55:31 ↗ interested in carpooling I did send out

1:55:34 ↗ an email about that through meet at

1:55:36 ↗ Tibbetts Valley Park I know Janet you

1:55:39 ↗ were interested I think Mirage isn't

1:55:41 ↗ able to come anymore

1:55:43 ↗ okay okay great so it might be us I'm

1:55:47 ↗ interested in carpooling yeah I'm happy

1:55:50 ↗ to drive

1:55:52 ↗ yes I think I had suggested Tibbetts

1:55:55 ↗ Valley yes

1:55:57 ↗ right by the skate park yeah 11 20.

1:56:03 ↗ yeah it's about a 30 minute drive

1:56:08 ↗ great yeah we may have some other staff

1:56:10 ↗ joining us and then I believe

1:56:13 ↗ some of you may have been at the

1:56:15 ↗ sustainability Affair she's against the

1:56:16 ↗ next student she's planning to join us

1:56:18 ↗ as well um she's been interning with us

1:56:21 ↗ for the last year so if you haven't had

1:56:23 ↗ a chance to meet her that would be a

1:56:25 ↗ great opportunity but I think it'll be a

1:56:27 ↗ pretty pretty small group so if those if

1:56:29 ↗ folks weren't able to maybe see your

1:56:30 ↗ girl or can't make it tomorrow

1:56:33 ↗ um the those invitations are pretty open

1:56:35 ↗ we can schedule

1:56:37 ↗ some other timing that's in the middle

1:56:39 ↗ of the workday middle of the school day

1:56:41 ↗ um so we can look at some other

1:56:43 ↗ there's some flexible time

1:56:45 ↗ and folks are interested in doing this

1:56:48 ↗ again

1:56:51 ↗ should we bring all our recyclable

1:56:53 ↗ materials

1:56:56 ↗ challenge their systems

1:57:10 ↗ thanks please

1:57:12 ↗ all right I think unless

1:57:15 ↗ my name is Jonathan Smith can I make a

1:57:18 ↗ brief announcement about my July event

1:57:21 ↗ hold that up to our chair uh go ahead

1:57:24 ↗ hey my name is Jonathan Smith I'm a

1:57:25 ↗ visitor here tonight I run a monthly

1:57:28 ↗ litter cleanup program our next event is

1:57:31 ↗ the first Saturday of July

1:57:33 ↗ um when we will meet at I think that's

1:57:35 ↗ the first at office calendar for me but

1:57:37 ↗ it's I think it's July 1st Saturday

1:57:39 ↗ we'll meet at nine o'clock at the post

1:57:42 ↗ office this is not associated with the

1:57:45 ↗ city at all it's just a volunteer event

1:57:47 ↗ we've been doing it for 20 months now

1:57:49 ↗ last month we had 20 volunteer site show

1:57:53 ↗ up and anybody that would like to come

1:57:56 ↗ we would appreciate the volunteers

1:57:59 ↗ thanks great thank you you get a lot of

1:58:02 ↗ garbage

1:58:03 ↗ yes

1:58:05 ↗ we pick up garbage for approximately an

1:58:08 ↗ hour and a half

1:58:09 ↗ um

1:58:11 ↗ um if you consider

1:58:13 ↗ one one and a half trash bags per person

1:58:16 ↗ that can be what 35 bags of cash last

1:58:22 ↗ month those kind of stuff are people

1:58:24 ↗ what do you find the bathroom of

1:58:28 ↗ um

1:58:29 ↗ later that you find those single use

1:58:34 ↗ great containers coffee cups

1:58:38 ↗ beer cans and fake hands

1:58:41 ↗ and plastic bottles is that's a vast

1:58:51 ↗ how's the best way for people to connect

1:58:52 ↗ with you in the event

1:58:53 ↗ um I post on next door

1:58:56 ↗ as well as Facebook I just recently

1:58:58 ↗ started a Facebook group called siqua

1:59:01 ↗ volunteer uh cleanup and our tagline

1:59:05 ↗ love where you live and it's a picture

1:59:07 ↗ from people's Point looking down

1:59:11 ↗ send out

1:59:16 ↗ John was another

1:59:17 ↗ environmental Award winners along with

1:59:19 ↗ Anne in Spring

1:59:22 ↗ we're grateful for your work it's been a

1:59:25 ↗ really fun

1:59:27 ↗ it's amazing when you spend a day out

1:59:29 ↗ picking up literature travel or picking

1:59:32 ↗ up there out of the Block series

1:59:39 ↗ shopping cart out of the ditch in front

1:59:42 ↗ of Target it feels good

1:59:45 ↗ [Music]

1:59:48 ↗ all that debris that doesn't get into

1:59:50 ↗ the waterways is super important is the

1:59:53 ↗ city ever advertise this on its

1:59:55 ↗ newsletter at all there I know John's

1:59:58 ↗ had some conversations with staff I

2:00:00 ↗ think we have to be there are some

2:00:02 ↗ liability concerns so they've tried to

2:00:07 ↗ do some promotion or support John in

2:00:10 ↗ some ways

2:00:12 ↗ we've got bags

2:00:16 ↗ but it's pretty much just a Grassroots

2:00:19 ↗ well to try to keep it simple

2:00:24 ↗ well I think I think we are adjourned as

2:00:27 ↗ I don't think we have any other items

2:00:28 ↗ thanks everyone

2:00:29 ↗ um have a good day

2:00:32 ↗ thanks Alex

2:00:33 ↗ thank you thank you

2:00:38 ↗ thank you thank you

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Attendance

Council / Members (11)

Jaimie Finch – Chair

Nancy Davidson

Anne Newcomb

Prajakta Ghatpande

Tom Anderson

Alix Lee-Tigner

Ashwin Kannan

Joy Lewis

Janet Wall

Dixie Bair

Ashwin Manoharan* (unexcused absence)

Staff (4)

Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager

David Reedy, Sustainability Coordinator

Tisha Gieser, City Clerk

John Larson-Friend, Transportation Program Coordinator

Excused

Don McQuilliams – Vice Chair

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Additionally, Board Member LEWIS recommended that staff and the Environmental Board discuss additional development standards such as reducing the prevalence of lawns.