all right welcome to the January 10th
meeting of the esquad environmental
board I'm Jamie Finch and I'll be your
chair tonight uh due to the hybrid
nature of the meeting we will have
members attending in person and online
uh for those online please keep yourself
muted while you're not speaking um raise
your hand to indicate your desire to
speak we'll do our best to catch you and
then hop in if we're still missing you
um anyone in person as we always do
please put your name tags up on the side
when you would like to speak um I don't
think we'll have any topics that we need
to summarize agreement maybe we will
with one of the items uh tonight
summarizing agreement around topics um
and if so uh we'll summarize that then
have any
comments summarized I think with that we
can move into attendance St you want to
take a
uh Tom Anderson here Nancy Davidson here
Jamie Finch here Raj
gaki Joy
Lewis Ashwin
Kanan here Ashwin manah
heran Don McWilliams
here an newcom I know is planning to
join us virtually doesn't look like
she's here yet um Janet wall Dixie bear
Alex Lee tigner here we have
cor thank you Stacey
um uh we have any comments on the
minutes from our previous
meeting hearing none those are approved
as presented um next up I don't think we
have any public that are going to be
speaking degree I don't think we also
had any public comments no no written
public comments we do have one member of
the public online but has not indicated
an interest to speak
tonight all right well I think with that
then we can move into our agenda items
the first one being the climate
vulnerability assessment communication
Concepts
oh we want to do do we want to introduce
Nick let's do that real all right that
on my attenda sorry uh Nick do you mind
turn on your camera real quick we'll
just do a brief introduction
UMO horen just joined us on Monday um as
uh similar to Kathleen Nick is a Civic
spark fellow Kathleen will maybe do a
very quick reminder of Civic spark um
during her
presentation um Nick joined us from
California is going to be with us
through August um is working on a number
of climate projects uh some of we'll be
taking on some of the work uh that
Kathleen has done so far for the city
but then also working on a number of
additional projects like the climate
challenge helping with the
sustainability Fair um working on our
resilience projects and a number of
other ones so I'm sure the board will be
hearing from Nick later in the year
presenting on the projects um that
they've been working on Nick do you wan
to say anything to the members of the
board or you can also wait till you're
here in person
too yeah I think you covered it but um
I'm glad to be here uh listening thank
you
now we will move into the climate
vulnerability assessment
Concepts great thank you Stacy good
evening board members of the public my
name is Kathleen Hillary and I am the
Civic spark fellow working with the
office of sustainability as a brief
reminder that's a maror program that's
recently been folded underneath the
Washington climate Corp and the
fellowship offers various professional
development opportunities for fellows to
work with municipalities and departments
working on sustainability and
sustainability adjacent topics uh and
engage in other various trainings in the
field my purpose tonight is to provide
you all with preliminary Communications
material Concepts to inform our
community about the climate
vulnerability assessment its findings
and lean into various connections for
followon information resources and
actions that our neighbors can
take tonight we'll discuss a very high
level overview of what the CVA found and
Associated messages we'd like to make
clear to the community and the concepts
themselves
please first let's remember that the IAP
identified the need to conduct a climate
vulnerability assessment with IAP action
CR 2.1 uh to understand the specific
climate impacts which threaten isqua and
strategies for enhancing Community
adaptive capacity especially of
vulnerable groups and Municipal
infrastructure the CVA analyzed four
General sectors buil environment natural
systems and storm water water resources
and Sewer public health and well-being
and then the 10 sub sectors that you can
see on your
screen the graphic depicts climate
impacts to these Associated sectors the
broad sectors including Wildfire heat
and consequences of extreme
precipitation this graphic details the
relative vulnerabilities from high to
low of the sub sectors taking into
account both climate risk which factors
in sensitivity and exposure to climate
impacts as well as the Adaptive capacity
of the sectors themselves which include
the capability of systems biodiversity
and Institution
to moderate cope or adapt to climate
change next slide
please conducting this assessment
allowed staff to understand various
areas of improvement and the CBA did
circulate very much so among the
staff what we'd like to do is
communicate the assessment in its uh
full form but also in truncated forms by
communicating both the assessment itself
and how various elements of the IAP
address identified gaps from the
assessment plans for future work etc by
offering this transparency we can
facilitate Community inclusion and allow
individuals and family units to
determine what preparations they need to
build resilience for themselves and
among neighbors these targeted
Communications materials can't distill
50 pages of information uh but we can
generate exposure to the various facets
that were held within that assessment
and also building Community
resilience slide
please we want to communicate the
findings accurately and widely without
being reductive but that's going to take
a lot of different Communications
material in many different ways so
tonight you're only getting three uh and
those are a municipal website page
update and inclusion of the CVA to
provide a central location for the most
accurate and upto-date
information they would also house a link
to the full report and various other
community uh Community Communications
materials and two-page memos reducing
the 50 pages into various sectors and it
would also be a place where community
members could find links to follow on
resources for preparing for extreme
weather we'd like to also do a school
flyer for poster similar tool to
facilitate youth inclusion and perhaps
even in incorporate some coverage of
multilingual family structures by
children who attend ISD schools bringing
these things home to family members who
may not have English as a first
language and a community notice fly or
similar signage tool which could Foster
neighborhood level awareness in order to
build resilience have a plan among
neighbors and have some constant signage
or similar stationary Landmark keeping
resilience front in
mind as stated a website in update to uh
isqu Municipal website itself Builds on
existing dashboards to present a central
database for
information this would have a link to
vulnerability assessment which you can
see in the bottom left corner this
mockup is is on the Emergency Management
page but it does not have to be housed
here specifically this is just a concept
it also have its own web
page housing it here or on its own web
page allows us to incorporate links to
additional resources as previously
stated we anticipate that key elements
of such an update would include the
report itself and the two-page memos as
well as resources to Human
Services weather trackers from Noah or
the National Weather Service and any
City plans that specifically address
gaps identified by the CVA as well as
whatever uh other materials are
determined by staff and
Boards there's also an example of an
arcgis store story map from the city of
Shoreline that uses interactive
storytelling to present information
Graphics photos definitions City
projects and Community opportunities to
learn more we can click on this link if
you would like to see that
example I see yeses from the
crowd thir brief give you idea I don't
know if folks are familiar with story
Maps but this is we may
need okay that it
is you may just be sharing the
power
[Music]
and here's the example of how a story
map can be used built this particular
one from arcj to create maps and
interactive links to additional fact
sheets and pictures from the
community
please this is again a mockup of a
school
flyer it is not
necessarily uh the
exact material but it's a graphic that
is designed
for middle schoolish aged children
slightly younger um what we'd like to do
with these pieces of school information
is to facilitate youth exposure to the
conversation while including them in the
conversation in a age appropriate way in
a place where there's already structure
for uh topics that can sometimes be
difficult to discuss and use
multilingual family structures whose
children attend schools to bring
information from the school through the
child to the
family
um one of the things that I've been
thinking about is uh using QR codes also
in order to have especially for older
students who have technology and who are
curious about learning more to have
something that is on a 24 by6 poster but
they can get access to further
information next slide
please and then Community
signage these are merely examples of
signs that exist um the entering and
leaving tsunami Hazard zones are uh on
Whidby Island in various places as well
as elsewhere in the United States on the
west coast Wildfire evacuation routes
and then I'm sure that folks are
familiar with the volcano evacuation
root signages around Mount
reineer
um these are merely
ideas and can also be
different more stationary uh boards or
signages for directions to resilience
hubs once we have physical locations for
those
areas and also shared with us some
education material relating to idle free
zones so that might be a sign option
within the community especially around
schools post offices other places where
idling is common like Pharmacy
drive-throughs or
Banks but this is where we have some
next steps and questions for you next
slide please we're going to be
presenting to the Human Services
Commission and sending a memo to the
equity board to gain their insight into
this topic as well we'll publish the CVA
report it is current with our
Communications team and then we'll
continue developing Communications
material based on all of that feedback
slide please what we have for some
discussion tonight is do you think these
materials presented in a good way to
educate the public and what kinds of
community signage are you interested in
in your neighborhoods are there other
materials or strategies that you'd like
to see employed in the community Andor
schools or elsewhere to facil itate
awareness about future climate impacts
and resources and how do you and your
neighbors currently get your information
or what changes would benefit how you
get your
information thank
you like
uh go ahead so I have a few
comments um so I I did look at the
website the shoreline city of Shoreline
website I think the arj storytelling map
you know is a great idea um I do think
the QR code is great too especially for
high schoolers um for capturing the
school audience or reaching more ISD you
know um community members um I think you
should reach out to the school but
basically you should reach out to most
of the ISD schools have green teams and
some of them are pretty active um uh
most of the Green Team high high school
green teams actually post updates you
know every week or every two weeks on
Instagram they hold events and they do
bunch of actually active events with
students as well as for the community uh
so you should reach out to them and you
know um these CVA materials especially
if you give them the QR codes that would
be great can actually reach a lot of
young people um as well as the other way
I have seen is in ISD newsletters I have
seen a lot of
information uh not necessarily just for
schools but you know impacting the
communities in ISD pass through um in
different forms uh so that also may be a
good way you know to reach out uh to um
basically publish the information
regarding your CVA um the other
questions I did look at the website and
one of the suggestions I had was uh you
can also add the shelters information or
you know the resilience areas as you
mentioned once available and once
confirmed um especially for the
communities which will be more affected
during you know extreme heat or climate
events I know King County sends notices
or text during extreme heat events so
something like that if you have
permanent structures available for um
you know public to access during any
extreme events they should be listed on
the website as well um that's all thank
you
and very well presented I love the fly I
love the story map idea I've always been
big fan of story map making
it up in front so you can see it um
comment on your community signage um the
idea of community signage is great I can
see Wildfire sign in isqua here possibly
a flooding sign some flooding down on
isqua from time to time and then also um
you have opportunities in this we in the
Parks especially like where you cross a
stream or whatnot some C of interpretive
signage to get into this a little more
detail for those that want
stop D go ahead
okay just reflecting on how I like to
get up to date and keep informed on on
City related things I very much enjoy
the ISA Insider email based
newsletter and the city does a very nice
job on that and uh related to that you
can sign up to be informed of get alerts
about various andry other things
relating to
Community uh events and emergencies Etc
these are powerful tools it it isn't the
answer for everyone but it is the answer
for many and uh so that coupling that
into the flow of information I mean
having a website U out there when
something is added to the city's website
I mean I don't go look at the city's
website very often looking well I wonder
what's new here you know that's not how
I get informed I get informed by this
channel of information coming at me and
then I I choose to investigate further
by following the links and I think
that's a very good model to uh follow
for dissemination of information and and
reaching people I think if you think
about those tentacles of of the email
flow and well then how do we build on
that to uh connect to people who aren't
all about the email thing the other
social social channels uh finding a way
to actively engage in those other
channels is uh key too particularly for
some
demographics and on the QR code I think
that's that's a great thing for certain
U demographic as well I mean it wasn't
that long ago when QR codes were
strictly a geeky thing but uh it is now
mainstream and Co has helped us get
there the of going into a restaurant for
example and scanning the QR code for the
menu I mean this is just everybody knows
how to do that a few years ago everybody
didn't know how to do that and so that
is mainstream now and that's a powerful
method uh to help people connect to the
the the core content which is somewhere
else for both in terms of uh the email
channels as well as um signage it's I
guess particularly powerful and the
signage both signage in terms of in the
public corridors along trails and
sidewalks Etc as well as in the school
and other public
settings uh that's all thank you thanks
Tom go to Alex and then
Nancy yeah thank you for this
presentation I really appreciate it and
I'm excited to see the final products
when they start coming out um I agree
with everyone that the story map is
really great and especially like
relative to the city's website it's a
lot more interactive and a lot more like
I pleasing um on it it's got those it's
got the fact sheets um and I really like
those because it it presents things much
more graphically and I think trying to
focus on as little text as possible with
eye-catching Graphics to try and
communicate as quickly as possible the
main points that you're trying to get
across and draw people in is going to be
really key with any of the tools that we
use
um I liked what praj was saying about
involving the students more than just
putting Flyers up at the schools um I
think that there are great green teams
that would take on projects to try and
help educate like take the information
and distill it to their classmates I
think that's a really
good way to help get that information
and have them take some ownership of it
and also have it communicated on a like
scale that the students would be more
interested in um so I'd love to see how
we could work more with the schools and
not just provide them with
materials
um I'd also love to have as a um partner
that does outreach around these things
I'd love to have pre-created materials
that I can share either through social
media on my website on at events through
like a fly one of these flyers that they
could scan um or even rocket cards or
something that we can give out about
being you know preparedness
opportunities um and how people can
learn more information so anything that
we can create that's like a media
toolkit um that can be shipped out to
Partners would be really helpful that's
really graphic oriented and
centered thank you Alex Nancy go ahead
so so I don't know if you by the way
great presentation before I get started
with my questions at one point um Thomas
Rush came here and talked to us about
how to communicate climate things since
last year I don't know if you had an
opportunity to talk with him at all
about your communication strategy but he
did receive a bunch of feedback from us
on how to communicate things related to
climate so I'm going to go over a few of
them one of which is that um I'm not
sure sending people to the ISA insiders
is the only way to do it because a lot a
lot of people aren't on that list and
not really knowing it so you have a
couple of tools that the city has to
send out regularly one is a utility bill
the second one is an annual water
quality report that city has to send out
the third one is partnering with waste
management garbage PSC is putting out a
regular Bill to most of us some get it
electronically but they can add to that
too if you work with them in Partnership
so my suggestion is for those of us that
aren't his technology Savvy that
wouldn't be my husband yes um I think it
would really benefit to use other means
than assuming that everybody's checking
emails and on the inside or we need to
get it the second piece that I would
suggest I'm changing topics is we need
to get to the chamber we need to get to
businesses as well as students and
homeowners so without them starting to
do more um we're going to be way behind
we need to get to the Costco and the big
Reis and stuff and get their
participation as well um the third thing
that I was going to say along this lines
remember it is that I just really I
really appreciate the storyboard but we
need to find a way to communicate it and
to me the words climate vulnerability
assessment means nothing but if you talk
about climate change you see that in the
news almost every day you've got to
start there if you want information
about climate change one piece of it is
the vulnerability assessment so we need
to get something that drags people to
whatever website we're using to
communicate this and I'm not sure those
three words climate vulnerability
assessment is enough to draw me to go
look and to search this storyboard but
if you talk to me about climate change
and what is your community doing about
it I'd go follow that one because i' be
interest in it so that's just my
feedback to you I think the name will be
hard to get people to click the link and
open
go ahead thank you you have any question
I had a quick follow sure um I I really
appreciate that feedback and I'm putting
on spot by asking this question but do
you have an idea of what words would get
you to pull the thread what is your city
doing about climate change or clim
climate change is a word that you've got
to be using there not vulnerability I
mean it is part of what we're doing and
it tells us how we're doing and where
we're the sub the problems but we really
need to get them because that's what
people are trying to say I'm buying heat
pumps I'm buying a green car what else
can I do and so we need to help them
with it and I think there's not just the
vulnerability assessment but there's all
of the other stuff we're trying to get
them to do we can get them hooked to
look at this we might be able to bring
about more change absolutely I wanted to
verify the words embedded within your
feedback are the things that would get
you to yeah go forward great thank you
so much I think largely we're talking
about threats to the community right how
do we mitigate them and so being able
to we're trying to talk about well why
are we talking about
this why are we trying to get people pay
attention and more importantly what's
the solution to it um uh one thing that
I have a note here as we mentioned how
can we get the Community Resources and I
think instead we should think about how
are we going to give them resources
right what do we find our Sol solutions
that are tangible that we with our
knowledge can then hand out right rather
than making the citizens say well I
don't know what to do instead say Hey
you know we think composting is a good
idea here's an event where we're giving
away composting EVS right as something
that is a qua done right how can we
actually get people resources rather
than trying to say where can we direct
you it's a slight shift of thinking but
it kind of puts the onus more on how we
trying to reach out within our community
um and actually enable them to be
following through and easy easier way um
I think in a similar way unfortunately
the factory model in education um uses
worksheets to teach kids and it's made
pretty OBS to them when a kid sees a
piece of paper they're not generally
even reading through that piece of paper
and so the idea that a flyer is going to
be able to filter down probably pretty
unlikely when you think about how many
pieces of paper in a kid sees every day
right now in an ISD school school
district um and so instead I um I parent
what other people have said but I would
rather see um an involvement with the
school district of maybe high schoolers
could be coming into a junior high
Elementary environment um kids feel
powerful when they are the teachers
right when they're learning something
that they can then teach back and it
really reinforces the model of
understanding critical thinking
component to this rather than just being
told it and so I do wish that the
education could flipped a little bit
we've seen it rather than doing a flyer
I think it's not going to get the intent
that we want but being able to teach a
child something that they can teach
somebody else you're going to have that
reverberation of them that having
conversations later on in their family
and knowing and saying oh I know this
information rather than I've just been
told this information um further um
we've done a lot of work on a code with
our signage if you are able to break
through and put tags on things I will be
the first to be so happy that you do
we've been advocating to the city to put
QR codes on our Parks boards on um
signage throughout the city and it's
something that for some reason has not
been able to alien um a large portion of
the Ison population has a smartphone and
the fact don't use QR codes um on any
signage that we use it's pretty
ridiculous we've even talked about
having safety issues of people trying to
get Public Notices pulling over to the
side of the road to understand what's
going on here and instead a quick snap
QR code would avoid that doesn't happen
if you can figure out why you can break
through that would be great but it's a
it's a way that it should be
communicated in every form right when
you see a tsunami s or a flooding threat
or any anything there should be a QR
code that can link you then to resources
and further information to better
understand what's going on and I think
that part of this is um a perceived
reality right we're trying to speak to a
portion of the population that may not
be in alignment or um have um the
knowledge based to say yes I agree with
all these things right so there is a
component of needing to educate and to
say this is actively happening and this
is how we know it's happening to help
kind of bring people around to have a
better understanding of it um maybe
that's bringing presenters and doing Ted
style talks right at community centers
or things like that I think there's an
education component where we can
communicate this information in a way
that feels um more collaborative with
the community um and again we've talked
a lot about things like kiosks um and
the use of neighborhoods as um focal
points for being able to reach
microcosms within the city and so there
should be there's places like for
instance the highlands right where it
would be easier to be able to post a tag
to post a flyer in Community kiosks um
and so examining where in our code do we
allow this and being able to kind of
push the administration to say we've
allowed for this signage code so let's
actually enact it because we want to use
this tool and being able to kind of use
the resources that we know we've built
in but don't
necessarily exist but can't
sense oh I'm sorry one more thing I
didn't see any mention of Partnerships
um and I wanted to pair with someone
else said um don't follow me tribe
businesses Builder
um to help with Outreach right to better
understand even um Builders can be a
huge resource right now saying like why
does why does Green Space exist in this
building right being able to say why is
it that we have um an infrastructure
plan that we do because it contributes
to clean water clean air right different
things that we' um enacted into our code
we can better communicate why they exist
in the built environment to the people
use and go
ahead
oh can't hear you
muted sorry I have two things to unmute
and so I have to remember that um great
conversation great presentation just a
short little thing to um and my idea
might be too long but loved what Nancy
said about how to communicate and um who
to communicate with I was just thinking
maybe this would be a good way to draw
people in what is our city doing to keep
us safe from the effects of climate
change but that might be too long so I
just wanted to toss that out there in
case you like
it oh um I I had a
question from staff J what what does
success look like from this like what
what is the key message or messages that
we think people need to come out of this
communication about the climate
vulnerability assessment what do we want
them understand or know or
react I think that what success looks
like
is parness as a sliver of resilience
within the community
and 100% coverage of all of the
neighbors including those who come from
vulnerable
populations including our UNH house
neighbors
immigrants Etc
and to track that is extremely hard to
have any kind of uh measurable trackable
followup would be extremely hard
but in so much as maybe we don't know we
get a 100% coverage the attempt of 100%
coverage is what success looks like
for I understand what the
vulnerabilities are to my community and
I am prepared to meet each of those
vulnerabilities yeah I think you said
that well I was just going to say I
think we want the community all of the
community especially those most at risk
to understand the impacts I think a lot
of our community doesn't even think
about wildfire and that is a true risk
now um and to know to have access to the
resources and know um what they can do
to be prepared and where they can go to
be um and I think that's a and I think
with the communication materials what
Kathleen's been really careful about and
what we will be going forward is not not
to create fear but but to just build
that awareness and provide the resources
that folks know um what to do and what
action they can take and do it in a way
that's not um igniting fear but instead
just a
self-sufficiency just put out a Citywide
survey anually we do every two years um
do a community survey that might be a
way to get a metric yeah some of the
questions that mention add those to the
survey
yeah yeah that's great we do have a
couple of sustainability questions that
are in that survey I think with now the
completion of the vulnerability
assessment would be a good time to add
that in and that'll go out next
year yeah it's a
great that's 2025 2025 I believe I think
they did in 2023 came
out um I haven't finished um so I um the
reason I asked that question is because
I think that like climate vulnerability
assessment how you communicate to the
public could take different forms like
it's one the city is doing something to
to understand these impacts there's the
people that this is going most directly
impact this is how we're going to help
you in this case so I think we need to
think about the different levels of
communication we're going to have with
this like there's some communities that
are going to see direct impacts that
we've identified in this report we
should be thinking about how do we
communicate those risks and the
solutions to them and that seems like
the base level like we have to do that
that's like the number one priority
coming out of this is the most at risk
groups how are they aware of the risks
that they're going to be facing and the
resources that they have I think more
generally in what our resources maybe
feel more focused on right now is
general education which while it's
important that I think I'm not sure it's
the right first step or the right
priority for based on what you're saying
that all of the most at risk people I
mean everyone we want everyone to aware
but especially the most at risk people I
don't see that in the current plan of
like this is how we're going to Target
the unhoused or whoever else we like go
through the climate vulnerability
assessment who is most at risk based on
the risk we've seen how are we
communicating to them that would be the
first thing that I would do um and then
I think climate vulnerability I agree
with with nany that that word and just
that General framing isn't going to work
for people and even I'm not even sure
climate change is like I'm not that's
not going to resonate with everyone so I
think how we communicate this and I
don't have the answer but is going to be
really delicate I think we the one thing
I know is that climate vulnerability
assessment is probably not the right
term um but how you communicate the
risks that they're going to be facing
because I think a lot of people are just
me like what's the punchline what do I
need to know how's this going to impact
me and what are the resources that I
have um so I think someone being able to
get that information and then if they
want to dive deeper on like what the
wise and what climate change impacts
they're going to see and why those
impacts are occurring um that that's at
least how I would think about it is like
the Baseline how do you communicate the
facts the the impacts to them and then
give people options to educate but um it
just seems like if if there's too much
packaging about climate change around
this that you might miss some of your
audience that really need to hear about
this so um I think that just general
messaging and how you're getting getting
in touch with the people most at risk
are the two areas that that seem like
maybe more attention could be paid um to
so but yeah overall I think some of the
other things are nice but I'm not sure
we've address them the biggest potential
population risk populations or at least
identify with those are so we know that
we're targeting
them
ex
um this is like a really interesting
thing to be thinking about so um I think
think it's probably important to really
think about the old you guys kind of
talked about that but like in the flyer
for example it actually as I was reading
I like I actually you know I I don't
know that it's actually a bad thing to
be honest if the if the assessment says
we're in danger then I don't know if we
should sure code it I think we do that a
lot in um sustainability stuff like you
know so people don't really realize the
threat is actually much closer than um
you know they like to think well it's
not going to happen in my life Lifetime
well that's probably not the way it is
so
um for whatever that's worth I know
we're talking about children but um you
know they're the ones that are have to
deal with this the most so I think maybe
it's important to be a little bit real
with what the results say um and then um
the Flyers to the flyer point it it
feels a little like you know here we're
telling them to protect climate change
and then we're printing things so if we
can avoid that I think that maybe makes
sense right to to show that like we are
just here's what we believe in and you
know here's some solutions although I do
understand the purposes to help Reach
people who maybe don't have access to
phones and things like that um and then
uh just a thought was you know um when
was it in the 80s neighborhood watch
groups were really popular at one point
um why not I know it would be a very big
um undertaking but why not start
creating the idea that if we if we know
where these challenged areas are going
to be you know there's a lot of data
available and there's probably apps that
would do the same thing of creating kind
of um like almost like a neighborhood
tree so that people start like realizing
like because some people will be more in
every Community there's always somebody
who's really into it and some that
aren't and they can help kind of bridge
the gap that I just don't think like a
website does for the people we're trying
to reach which is the best way to reach
them is say hey neighbor did you know
that we are at risk for
Wildfire and here's what we're going to
do here's the plan and we just want you
to know what the plan is like that's a
like a simp it's a big project but
Simple
Solution in some ways so and then I
think social media is a great strategy
it's what everybody's using um and it's
a it can be a really easy strategy you
can literally make all of your posts you
can make 365 posts and just keep
regurgitating them all the time schedule
them and they just keep posting um so at
least it's out
there see joy we do need to wrap this
topic so if there's anything quick
umly can't do longer quick quickly I'll
um tear out what Dixie is saying is that
um the best way you're going to reach
vulnerable populations and I did not get
that at all from the presentation that
that was a priority Target um the best
way to do that is through Word of Mouth
um and you asked how do community talk
and a way to do that is basically have
put park benches in places that we know
people are piing bus stops being able to
uh create spaces people are talking um
and then being a all those park benches
right that are queuing oh hey here's
information about how many plastic
bottles we used to make this bench right
there's a lot of different ways that we
can create spaces to enable more
interaction and human interaction we
used to actually have people who would
who work for the city of Isa who would
be in every single neighborhood would
create these networks like the watch and
the administration chose to do away with
them and we called for them many times
to come back and the best way to do it
again is on a neighborhood level within
Isa and to be able to advocate for how
do we rebuild that infrastructure that
we actually already used to have so that
people are having direct dialogue with
their neighbors about hey when there is
flooding here's the best way that we
know to help this person who has maybe
mobility issues and this person who has
these other challenges is the people who
are living next door to them and so
that's really your goals you need to how
are these people actually coming
together
facilitating
um out all right I think that's all of
our comments um any final thoughts for
us in
Stacy no I think we'll take the feedback
um probably sit down with our
Communications team emergency manager
and then as Kathleen mentioned we are
going to be talking with the Human
Services Commission in a couple of weeks
and so we'll really focus that
conversation on reaching how do we most
reach best reach those
populations great well with that we will
move on to our next agenda topic the
2022 greenhouse gas emissions in Detroit
Jamie um real quick sorry to interrupt
we did have two additional members of
the public
join okay if we check in rather they're
okay hi an fetcher and Dave nice to see
you just wanted to check in and see if
you all were hoping to make public
comment tonight or if you're just
listening if you are able to
unmute if you're having any trouble uh
unmuting please go ahead and send me a
chat if you would like to make public
comment or you can send me an
email well it's nice to be back um I was
gone for a few months but uh from the
board but I'm thr to be back and I'll be
joining y'all uh moving forward um so
tonight uh I get to to join y'all to
talk about the
20122 greenhouse gas inventory
report um throughout the presentation uh
I would say feel free to ask questions
as we go um there's a lot of details a
lot of numbers and a lot of um uh really
specific items that we can dig into so
um recognizing we're going to cover a
lot uh feel free to ask questions as we
go and um just flag my attention if I uh
is any
questions so uh the goal of the
presentation today is to share the
results of our 2022 CommunityWide and
government operations greenhouse gas
inventory um as well as to seek uh
recommendations from the environmental
board on how staff uh should best bring
this material to uh city council um we
are scheduled to go before City Council
in early February to present this
information um and we would love some
feedback and um recommendations on uh
Focus
and um ways to to best present this
information so as a quick background on
greenhouse gas inventories uh they're
generally used to calculate quantify and
assess uh Community Associated and
government Associated greenhouse gas
emissions uh and their sources they've
been around for a long time um however
the methodology continues to change and
evolve over over time as we learn more
about our emissions as we learn more
about how to track different sources of
emissions and how to um uh apply
emissions to different uh communities so
they've been around for a little while
we have completed uh We've we completed
our 2022 greenhouse gas inventory to
determine our current sources of
greenhouse gas emissions um as a point
in time understanding of where our
emissions are really coming
from uh as well as review some Trends
around where uh how we're doing compared
to previous years um around some of our
emissions to help identify policies
programs um uh and actions that we can
take to uh address our greenhouse gas
emissions
so just kind of highlighting some
items knowing that we've done greenhouse
gas inventories for for a while um and
these have been done uh across the
International Community there are a few
things that we knew going into this
right we knew that some of the largest
sources of greenhouse gas emissions come
from our built environment and they come
from transportation and you'll see uh
through the results that that is what
our emissions inventory has shown so our
our inventory from 2022 provides us a
lot of specific information that we can
run with um but luckily in a lot of ways
we're not starting from um zero here and
we already have some programs in place
and we're already kind of thinking about
how we can best address uh emissions
from some of these
sources I also have a picture there's
emissions associated with our Solid
Waste Disposal there's emissions
associated with refrigerant use and um
losses of emissions from um transporting
energy from place to place so there's a
a whole um complex set of how we uh
think about those emissions we can go
into any more detail on uh the specifics
of how emissions inventories are done um
as uh as
necessary so the 2022 greenhouse gas
inventory process uh we partnered with
uh we joined the uh we did this in
partnership with the Eide climate
partnership cities of Belleview Redmond
Kirkland and Mercer Island uh we wanted
to do a regional ventory uh efforts to
make sure that each of our City's
inventories were aligned in their
methodology to make sure that um we
could uh work through this process
together and then also uh ideally to um
find efficiencies in scale working
together we could uh improve uh the
process and hopefully reduce cost to
doing these inventories for us at the
city we contracted with Cascadia
Consulting between July and December
2023 to do this inventory
um and Cascadia Consulting uh has done a
lot of inventories including uh the 2020
2019 uh Regional inventory for King
County the inventories were completed in
compliance with iiy best practices for
CommunityWide and government operations
inventories and iiy local governments
for sustainability is um a a great
organization that has some uh tools uh
that can help you um do the the
emissions calculations um and generally
is is well respected as a good standard
for these missions
inventories the results of the 2022
greenhouse gas inventory represent both
the fifth CommunityWide greenhouse gas
inventory that the city has done as well
as the first uh ever government
operations
inventory and it directly Associates
with icap action uh 2.1 I wrote
completed on this although this is you
know an ongoing process this is we're
going to be doing more greenhouse gas
inventories as we move forward to
continue to track where we're at uh and
the impacts of our
actions so diving into the results uh
this is a pie chart of our uh
CommunityWide greenhouse gas
emissions um and what we can really see
here in the orange yellow uh is the
that's the the biggest source of our
emissions and that is our uh built
environment then the purple is our
transportation
emissions and these emissions are
roughly in line with uh the the percent
of our emissions that come from the
built environment and from
Transportation um as our largest sources
really is in line with uh previous
inventories 2019 and 17 yeah just a
quick question so this is isqua specific
or is it all the partnership specific so
this is isqua specific
yes yeah so each City worked together to
develop the inventories but each City
got their own
inventory so um one of the benefits of
that is that we can compare ourselves to
our uh uh our neighboring cities and so
we have the equivalent of 10.5 metric
tons of carbon uh CO2 equivalent
emissions per capita uh and that is
roughly in line with other cities it's a
little bit higher than a few cities and
a little bit lower than others um but
they're all it's all roughly in that
that
area and again our largest uh emission
sources are from the built environment
and
transportation um with uh still a
significant amount from refrigerants and
landfill and the refrigerants number has
been increasing a little bit I would
note and um that uh might be from better
tracking tools and better um ability to
measure that so there's a little bit of
um we still need to be diving into that
a little bit more but again this does
highlight that our our uh focus is
really on that electricity that natural
gas and um Vehicles as well um so
there's a few questions here so the
program which was used by cdia
Consulting uh equally right so that is
that a standard industry practice
nationally or is it more local yeah so
iiy is an organization that has this
tool called clear path and clear path is
a national and I think even
internationally used tool right I think
CDP has produced it okay um C I'm not
familiar with CDP but it is um it's a
generally accepted tool internationally
to do a lot of these greenhouse gas
inventories and so for this particular
analysis right I'm guessing you just
provided the them the raw data or
whatever numbers you had and then they
played with it essentially right and
then they gave you this analysis so is
there a margin of error or you know um
like how accurate is the data I mean
this looks great the goals are pretty
you know impressive you know trying to
cut down 50% and this is good and I'm
pretty sure we are making an effort but
I when I look at this chart I always
wonder you know what is really the
margin of or accuracy of the data yeah
so I would say uh so the way Cascadia
was able to do this um we actually only
really provided uh the municipal
operations the government operations
data the CommunityWide data Cascadia
Consulting used a number of different uh
tools and methods uh that are done that
are created at National Regional local
levels so for
instance um for electricity data they
were able to go to psse and get
information on the emission sources or
the the carbon intensity of the
electricity of um Puget Sound Energy's
electric mix they were able to get an
understanding of how much natural gas is
actually going to the different
communities when you get to things like
on-road Vehicles public transit those
are more um there are a number of
different models that can help uh a city
or region understands uh what the
emissions are so for our vehicles
on-road vehicles uh Cascade used the
Puget Sound Regional Council uh model
which is built off of a number of
different models and and inputs that go
into that that kind of spits out a a
vehicle miles travels amount for our
city so some of the data is a little bit
more specific than others and some of
the data there's a number of these
different
um models that have been put together
and embeded and tried and uh in many
iterations to kind of figure out what's
the best way to to measure some of this
and that's kind of one of the items that
I alluded to with methodology changing
right so you know the psrc pugan
Regional Council VMT model is the best
model we currently have but that model
could be improved as time goes on as we
figure out how to better track um
vehicle emission right um so those
methods will continue to change as we
figure that out does that help answer
the question
thanks we do have question
wonderful hey thanks great work David
and um so I also am wondering how they
got the vehicle miles traveled uh data
and it's just for people living in isqua
correct not people who drive through I
believe it actually does include folks
who come through on I90 and and come
through the city so those are emissions
within the city of isqua I see okay and
I I will confirm that but I I believe
that's the case so maybe they're
counting Vehicles over a certain period
of time then as they go
through that include the emissions
associated with the vehicle miles travel
that come through the city of Miss or
that that occur within the city of Miss
I think Ann's asking is there a direct
measurement or is it all based on the
model oh I apologize yes so it's all
based on for for the CommunityWide it is
all based on the model as we get to you
know our own government operations
inventory you'll see we have specific
numbers there but um these this is all
based on the
model cool uh and so I know this is not
the full report um
and it would be kind of fun to see the
full report is that something that you
guys are allowed to share out or is it
confidential it is not confidential um
attached to the board packet I believe
um was the report that we've developed
so far um so we can continue to to build
on that um as we would like um but that
report does include um the data that we
have
okay cool I must have missed that
link awesome thank you so much sure that
you have it at the end of this
meeting cool and I have one more thing
to say but I can wait until we get to
that part if that works better
sure you
think like because we're not basing
anything on Direct measurement I'm
guessing not only for VMT but also for
the like the like the I even know the
carbon intensity of those miles traveled
is that also based on a
Model I believe that also goes into the
model um there's
model my understanding is that the
output from the model helps understand
vehicle miles traveled and then the in
the entry into clear path they use
um percent understandings of different
types of vehicles that are on the road
in carbon in densities of is that miles
is that General like types of vehicles
or how how are they for isqua versus
Kirkland is there any differentiate are
they just using the same assumptions
within the the communities I believe
it's regional here for ISO there is a
specific model that's more specific for
Kirkland bellw and Rond so for those
three cities cascad was able to use a
much more specific model ours is more
Regional yeah I guess I guess my con
concern here is that BMT anything that's
based on a Model our our actual Behavior
change won't necessarily be captured by
that model because like we're not
directly measuring difference in vehicle
miles travel is my understanding of the
methodology here so if we like if isquad
does something different than Kirkland
that does something different than
Redmond we're all just kind of getting
averag into the same model so it's very
difficult to discern like what actual
changes are occurring because you're
only
a basis in a model and no direct
measurement means that you can't
actually tell whether there's been a
change um so that that's my that's one
of my concerns I think the other
similarly on the types of vehicles like
a great example being like if we can
successfully Drive adoption of EVS is
that going to be factored into future
updates because it doesn't seem like our
actual Isa specific vehicle mix has been
directly measured and applied into the
model so I'm just worried that like some
of the biggest inputs for the model or
for the for our pie chart here aren't
actually being directly measured and
like are going to be difficult to
actually show whether we're making
progress against because they're all
model based so I think that's maybe
separate from the results here but that
that that's one concern based on how
this is being described um and I don't
know if on the electric electricity
natural gas are we
using actual usage for within the city I
believe PSC did provide actual usage for
U Broken Out by cities okay so it seems
like that onroad Vehicles is the main
section that
has kind of an indirect measurement so
yeah just something to keep in mind I do
think that that feels like it's going to
be difficult to measure change or like
how isqua might perform
um so yeah I think that's a great point
and um that is something that we can I
can get more detail on that
specific petown Regional Council model
to provide if that's helpful and then
also just thinking about you know moving
forward as we address this um my hope
would be we develop better models and
systems for being able to better uh
actually uh understand what's happening
more locally this is fairly Regional so
or or this is fairly localized to the
region so it does reflect pretty well
what's actually going on here in isqua
since yes we're doing things a little
different than our neighboring cities
but you know EV adoption in ISO is not
going to be dramatically different than
than our neighboring cities for instance
so um I would say I have okay confidence
in in that model for for where we're at
at least in the
methodology build on what Jamie's saying
so the only thing we really have control
over that we can show that we're making
a difference is our electricity and
natur natural gas because we're rolled
in on the vehicle piece with other
communities and it's not actually
measuring trucks driving through here
and other things and so really the only
Greenhouse emissions that we can
potentially show in the community that
we are improving
on is our built environment use not
necessarily the vehicles because we're
averaged we're in with everyone else and
I guess my comment is that really needs
to show up in the presentation as a
specific item or a specific slide
because I suspect that if we measure
this in five years our on our vehicle
use won't change much because we're in
an average with other communities so we
really should be tracking what we're
doing on the electricity
natured just a suggestion to add another
slide to at least clarify that so people
see that yeah I can I can look to to do
that and I would clarify that the
vehicle model is specific to is or the
the model is a regional model the
numbers here are specific for isqua
based on geography and where the what
the vehicle miles are within our
geography how many are EVs and how many
of them are gas power you know I don't
think you're seeing
that you made it to first traffic yes
you get all these
questions I would encourage you to
understand the
model in detail and be prepared to
explain it up front you might even want
to have a slide right off the Geto
here's the model here's how it works
here's how here's the region that it
looks at here's how they analyze things
um you put this in house get the same
question here they're going to tear this
down until they understand the model
behind this um and then like the the
vehicles for instance I me I'm really
curious how much of that 37% is I90
versus vehicles that are running around
in town what can we change what is effed
out there and then on even on the
electricity and natural gas I'm not
convinced that that is specific for
isqua I think that's an average from PSC
on average kilowatts
used times the number of homes times the
number I don't
know
I I really want to better understand
sure David just one more comment also
the refrigerant data also here might be
kind of generic because I'm guessing
they might have just calculated you know
the input and output based on the
refrigeration model assuming you know in
each household or something um my that's
just my guess based on the ghg
accounting which I have done previously
unless you have specific data for the
refrigerator for each household you know
beginning versus the end period um you
can use the type of the refrigerator you
have and you basically spit out based on
the model what the numbers are so they
might not be accurate as well um to an's
comment I did look at the report which
was attach with the email and I was
curious to see actually the raw data and
again if if you are able to share it
with us I was just curious how the model
was handling the raw data um and I
didn't see any raw data means I did see
some tables and charts but again you
know this is what I was also interested
so if you can share it um and if you
don't have time if you can just share it
in email if it's possible I just would
like to look at it as well yeah as as we
have time at the end I'm happy I have a
number of different data and not just
today I'm just asking if whenever if you
are okay to share it L
sure on the note of what Don was saying
I do think one thing to think about is
is this the right first slide like to
the the SEC the next slide or maybe it's
two slides from now like I think the
punchline of like where our missions
going might be the right first slide and
then I do like one of the things that I
struggle with all of the slides put
together is like and sent you a few
notes on this it's just like how are we
doing and where are the where are we
seeing changes and I think what Don
mentioned around how is that in the
addressable portion of emissions versus
the not addressable part is really what
I like it in my mind the progression is
what is overall what are overall
missions doing what are the categories
there within those categories what's
addressable then what is the trend in
the addressable emissions within those
categories is I I think what based on
some of your responses which were very
helpful it seems like our actually like
isqua impacted direct like emissions are
are not not where the decreas is coming
from most of the decrease is coming from
changes in PS the carbon intensity of
the electricity makes so that would be
super like that to me is really really
important to understand that like all of
the decreases we're seeing or a very
large portion of the decrease we're
seeing is related to psse changes we're
still and of course this is like
basically we didn't have a IAP for most
of like leadup to this so wouldn't
expect it necessarily but I think that's
a good like that's a baseline that
people need to understand like that's
the punchline that I think people need
to understand it's really hard to get
out of the current presentation so those
are some ideas on how you might
structure this differently and I I know
the addressable part is probably not
might not have been a part of how cascad
approached as I do think it's an
important consideration as think about
the like the update of IAP as well like
we ultimately need to be able to like
the most important thing we can do is
measure the things that we can actually
impact like obviously we want to know
the overall story but like how are we
doing on the things that we can actually
impact it there's some way it might be
already in what they've done to pull
that out and and kind of give some light
to that that would be super super
helpful because I think right now it's
good that the missions went down but
it's like challenging to understand why
and the how are we doing question um
like as it relates to what what we're
trying to do here which is reduce within
isqua's controllable things what
can yeah I think there's a lot we can do
to dig more into the um methodology and
models and share that information I just
do want the board to think about that
the greenhouse gas inventories they are
not in exact science they're based on
what is available at the time we were
getting data up till we're still waiting
on a little bit of data it takes a long
time for some of that data to be
generated um and as David um presents in
the materials and we'll talk about more
they're also based on the best of
methodology at the time those
methodologies continue to
improve um and so it's really meant to
be kind of a snapshot in time of where
are we uh with all those assumptions and
the best available information at the
time and so really looking at those
Trends coming away with that punchline
how have we changed since the the last
few years um and does that direct us to
maybe take some different action but
just thinking of that as kind of that
snapshot in time definitely not an exact
science so just encourage you all to
think of it in that way um I just did
want to mention too we talk someone
today that um does inventories using a
different um using different models for
some of these factors and while there
were some slight
differences the most part in alignment
with the findings of this inventory so
that was a good kind of gut check that
this is at least on the right
track so I do also think it is valuable
to point out that this is this is really
looking at what is our emissions
CommunityWide and um I believe in
comment that an had uh emailed in right
addressing these emissions is that
Patchwork of State efforts clean energy
transformation act and climate
commitment act which um there's some
threats to this year um it's that
Federal action and it's that local
action right so this is mainly just
looking at where are we at here in the
community and this is also recognizing
that to address all of these emissions
there's a lot that the city can do and
there's a lot that the city can't do to
address some of these emissions and it
is going to be that that big effort
right two two other quick thoughts
um one since a lot of this is based on
which I totally understand there's
limits on what can be done and like
there's gonna have to be some Reliance
on the model one great thing about a
model is you know when you change inputs
in a model what those outputs are and so
something that I would be really
interested in
Cascadia like creating or basically an
output of this being is like if you
change mix of vehicles by this like
basically what are the things that would
really move the needle like that seems
like an output that could come from
their model uh from these different
areas like are there ways that we can
understand if x resident switch to this
like this much impact would result like
those types of things would be really
helpful to like qu like these big huge
numbers like what what can actually
change like what are the things that
will actually move the needle um that
would be that be super super helpful to
kind of I don't think necessar for for
the the commun for the uh for the
council but for the community would
really help to start like drive home how
how can they actually make meaningful
impacts um on this and then what was it
thing maybe it'll come back to me
um maybe I'll we got a lot of slides
cover so don't worry please respond to
that first suggestion um I don't think
that's going to be part of the work
they're doing with this but we are in
discussions with Consultants about as a
next phase doing uh somewhat of an
economic analysis is what is the local
investment and on what actions needed to
move the needle given the state and
federal policies that are in place so I
think get somewhat at your question so
we're hoping to do that this spring in
time for all the city um budget updates
and requests so I'll let you know if
that moves forward and a great
discussion oh I don't know if this was
it but this was maybe a different thing
one thing that isn't in the presentation
currently that would be helpful
is 2017 2019 2022 all in relation to our
icap goals and that graph that we have
in IAP just to see like it's it's still
early but like where are we within that
context
sh but if you're talking about that you
should also talk about growth in the
community like how much growth has
happened between 2017 2019 and 2022 you
know both business and
um not and it's not just in the city but
it's also in the region because we know
many of the facilities people in South
King
County dve through yes that's missing
from this presentation overall is
popular it hasn't been
stagnant yes and I think um that gets
to a challenge had and this is very good
feedback and thinking about out of all
of the data that I could present what is
the the good pieces to bring out right
so for instance in moving ahead right so
this is our inventory uh 2017 through
2022 um looking at some of those Trends
the reason I'm showing 2017 2019 and
2022 is because these are the three
inventory years that use the same
methodology one of the things that uh
you could notice from this is it does go
down it's a uh
177% well that's the next side but it's
a 17% per capita reduction greenhouse
gas emissions and a 10% overall
reduction and one of the when you look
at the the specific data that comes out
of a lot of this um the thms of natural
gas use the kilowatt hours for
electricity actually stays fairly
similar between those three years and
the per capita amount does decrease a
little bit right so even though uh the
emissions then aren't going down by
Leaps and Bounds the per capita
emissions is improving a little bit
better than overall emissions however
the biggest reduction in greenhouse gas
emissions over this uh five year time do
come from reductions in the carbon int
or improvements in the carbon intensity
of the psse electric so when you see
where these improvements coming from
it's reductions in emissions from
commercial electricity use residential
electricity use and Industrial Electric
use is that from better technology that
you're done I believe it's from changing
out their fuel
sources so David another thing is isn't
Co should be one of the things which
should reduce the G uh you know
emissions in this means this graph has
to be moved because of the co right
means or have you considered or is there
a consideration of covid data you know
because of the how much the J emissions
were reduced or anything I'm guessing
it's not considered this it just the
bulk data used to produce this graph is
that right so this data shows the data
from the greenhouse gas inventory years
we conducted and so 2019 and 2022 kind
of are are the ones that bookmark around
Co um I think one way that Co does show
up in this graph is there is a raw
reduction in vehicle miles travel based
on the models for the city of isqua in
2022 my understanding and in talking
with folks who've been doing these
inventories uh
nationally that is expected to actually
that reduction might be leftover impacts
from covid-19 and while there are still
folks working from home um and that has
changed it wouldn't be surprising when
we do the next greenhouse gas inventory
to actually see an Inc increase in BM
again as people continue to thrive out
in the world right um so I think that's
a good example of where we can make an
assumption within the data that that the
reduction in BMT is probably prob Co
still and just to let you know you know
mean I think you guys are doing awesome
this is a great you know effort and just
to add you know even though you're
getting some so many question or what we
are asking I know how complicated the G
accounting gets as Stacy put it it's not
just that it's not science you are
trying to do a quantitative assessment
by using some qualitative data in a lot
of circumstances where there are
assumption so you know do the best you
can and try to get to the quantitative
site and that's when you know I'm saying
the margin of error or your assumptions
that language needs to be put somewhere
or it needs to be clear clear on your
graphs or the reports you might be able
to get a better language on that from
Cascadia Consulting themselves when they
are using the which would be worth
putting somewhere in the report because
this is a huge undertaking and I can say
that from personal experience I've done
it for on smaller scale and based on the
model use you use or the type of tool
you use you can get different results or
based on the data or the assumptions
slight change can make a difference so
you know there is a lot of margin of
error if there is a slight change so you
need to have that specified somewhere in
the report that's just yeah no I
appreciate that and I can reach out to
Cascada to see if they have a specific
margin of eror that's you getting so
many questions as well because you know
it's it's not an exact science or it's
not just quantitative data no and and we
anticipated lots of questions there is
this is very
complex topic and we know it's a a high
interest so thank you definitely was
expecting many questions here just quick
note on
that they focuses really well on like
what would the feedback be for for you
for the for next steps I do
think the statement of facts of like
what is the content like before the
slides of like what the graphs are doing
this like not only the model but also
some of the context you're providing to
us now around like the impacts of covid
the electrical G changes
all of that as a like as context going
into when someone sees numbers because
as soon as people see numbers their eyes
go they they go brains go red everything
so I think the more you can do to set
the stage of like what is the context
here before you show even any specific
numbers what is the context population
of a squad went up by X this was this is
an impact the the impact of of covid on
on driving is this amount of like not
you don't have to quantify but like this
is an impact what are those things that
like someone coming into this C needs as
context would be maybe the first slide
like one of the earlier slides before
any specific
numbers
recommendation Dixie goad I I I have a
clarifying question and maybe it's in
here I'm looking at it again to see if I
missed it but um you're presenting
data um but what is the what are what
are we trying to get the council to do
with this data and I think maybe that is
also a good place like if I'm presenting
new information to people that I haven't
given information to i' like to start
with what am I hoping that they because
I think we have we have an agenda
obviously um so we want them to go with
our
agenda um you know and so what does that
look like in presenting the data so that
they're led to go wow this is important
and we need to do I you know I guess and
maybe it's in here like I said I I may
have missed it but um like what is the
goal of the presentation to the council
yeah that's a that's a great question
and I I would probably say the goal for
the presentation to council is really to
one give them a just raw what is the
update on our CommunityWide and then our
government operations greenhouse gas
inventory right as we're thinking about
implementing our cap our functional plan
there um that's kind of data that
Council needs to see I think the other
piece of this and this comes out a
little bit later on in the presentation
is where do we then focus our efforts at
the city right and I think one of the
pieces that this uh inventory results
really highlights is that the focus to
to reach our IAP targets and our IAP
goals we really need to continue
continue to focus um and maybe
prioritize Focus within uh reducing
emissions from our built environment and
then from Transportation our two largest
sources of greenhouse gas emissions if
we want any hope of reaching those
targets right um and so I think that's a
good method of thinking about what is it
going to really take for us to to get
these emissions reductions and then
where where are we going to have to
focus at the
city
just one quick question and and did you
I saw you were had your hand raised did
you have something to say
or up now but
I I think can you hear
me okay I think um David and Dixie
addressed what I was going to say which
is basically
um we want the city council to continue
to support our climate change efforts um
and so
possibly we need to amp up our um
communication on the solutions and how
we will need you know these are these
are what we can do to um get to a better
report next time because we clearly need
to continue to do better um
and we're going to need support from
city council and maybe it would be
helpful for them
if we can before the report be before um
February to
enumerate
um where we might need some
funds just one quick point that might be
interesting might be able to capture in
the vehicle
emissions curious how much there's a
slight reduction there between 17 and 22
I'm curious how much of that is the sale
of
EVS um in 17 EVS w't quite as prevalent
as they are now I think you might be
able to dig that information up in re
wide percentage of EVS being sold kind
of like that yeah I can definitely look
that number up I don't think that
um that is probably good news St yeah
that yeah that would be um something
that could be helpful to to be able to
frame the
conversation any other questions on
CommunityWide Trends the next switch is
going to be on government operations
inventory I do have yes one thing that I
would love to hear included in this is
how this data will be tied back to the
IAP update that one thing that one
frustration I've had with IAP overall um
since Inception is the lack of specific
numbers other than our overall targets
but a lot of the goals don't get into
the specifics of what our goal is for
savings and so I I think one of the
things that if I was Council I'd love to
hear is okay we know these are the
numbers what we're now going to do is
translate them into like apply these
into our update IAP to understand okay
we now know where we need to get these
things we think are going to do this
amount I've seen other climate action
plans that are much more specific on
expected emission reductions and so I
just think that this is a good
opportunity along because we're also
doing that update this year to begin
that conversation I don't know exactly
what that looks like but I think if I
was cancel I would appreciate it if we
went another step of talking about okay
what how are we going to then now use
this data to inform what we're doing
with so I think on that point and and 10
15 slides down the line I mentioned the
IAP update and and midpoint check-in
process so just as a clarification this
year is the the midpoint checkin on the
IAP and the actual midpoint or the
actual IAP update won't happen until
2025 2026 here so one interesting note
on that is if we were able to do another
greenhouse gas inventory in 2024 which
is the the hope would have even more
data to then bring into that actual
update process in 20125 and
2026 um so that is good news hopefully
um the other piece is for some of these
inventories there's the the idea of the
wedge analysis right thinking about what
are the different actions that are going
to take to
reduce uh emissions and and kind of over
that that time span between now and 2025
2050 for instance how do we want
emissions to look like to to get to
those targets um and generally it was
decided among the East Side cities that
participated in this um effort to not do
the wedge for this update um and
probably do that in future updates but
the general idea was that which is I
think roughly what we're what your point
was getting at um I think generally the
idea was that uh we have a wedge
analysis from 2019 as part of the
regional greenhouse gas emissions um
inventory conducted by PSR Rea um and
that that doing that update ated wedge
analysis was going to be a costly
addition to this and wouldn't
necessarily tell us a whole lot new but
that if we were to save at doing that
for later this would help us get that
snapshot in time to continue to be able
to focus and say hey look the built
environment and transportation are still
our biggest sources of emissions and
Emissions reduction is really driven by
the utility and here's what we can do to
to fit into this Patchwork of of efforts
to to meet our goals
does that help a little bit Yeah I think
no I think it does my point was a bit
broader just in as we think about how
numbers come to life in the icap
planning in
general I think looking back that was
and this was feedback that myself and
others had when we originally passed IAP
was that there wasn't enough spec like
specific there were there weren't enough
specific goals and I think the right
time that start having that convers
ation whether we're not going to make
that level of update at this midpoint
update and it's only in 2025 I still
think that's a conversation we should
start having um so that it was a broader
point I think sure I think the wedge
analysis is a great tool as part of that
so I think think it's more of General
conversation I think it would be helpful
to start having absolutely I think
that's a great
point oh an yeah I'll try to be quick so
um what do you think
about saving money and
time uh and having our next analysis be
on in
2026 because in
2026 we will have coal out of our mix
and so our our electrical greenhouse gas
emissions will potentially come way
down um
and in between now and then I think we
know what we need to work on it seems
clear and that could that open up some
more time and energy and money to work
on the real solutions that we know we
need to work
on yeah I think that's a great Point
thinking about just that Cadence of
these greenhouse gas emissions
inventories I think the the model the
East Side City partnership was moving
towards is is looking at doing those
every two years roughly um Belleview
does them every single year because
that's a request by their city council
um we kind of felt like that wasn't
necessary you know the the um emissions
changes on a year-to-year basis aren't
uh necessarily that large and they don't
often change direction of where we're
what efforts we want to do um so I think
you know whether we do it in 2024 2026
that's um something that we can
absolutely consider is kind of what is
that what is the correct Cadence for us
to be doing these these inventories
luckily in partnering with the East Side
cities and this was kind of our first
year doing this in part the greenhouse
gas inventory in partnership with them
hopefully the burden is becomes less the
the effort actually becomes less to do
this on a year a year basis since we
have kind of this ongoing partnership
and contract with cascad to be doing it
so so in theory we should be able to do
these
um with less less effort and investment
City cool do you know what the cost
is just got yeah it
was yeah our portion was about 14,000
and that was for both of the inventories
as well as um they did update the
20 inventory with the new methodology
that was applied in the most recent one
cool so the next one the price may go
down but still like 10 or 14,000 like we
think about that like oh um where else
could that be spent that could actually
help us reduce our
emissions just a thought yeah no it's
great suggestion I think most of the
Cities would prefer to do these less
frequently I think we're trying to
figure out what the right timeline is
for us yeah and that's $144,000 and plus
all the time that you guys spend on
it I think the risk there is if if the
update of IAP is in 2025 and anything
out of the inventory is important to how
we set goals how we understand where we
need to get that 14,000 actually sounds
quite small and it's how we're
allocating hundreds of thousands or
millions of dollars to invest in a plan
so I I would just caution us that we
make sure that that's the right like
that 14 is actually much lower than I
was expecting here and that especially
if we're talking about a plan that's
going to last like a longer term plan I
would be concerned if this was maybe we
said hey this missions analysis isn't
important for that uh that would be one
thing but if this is going to be an
important resource for that that would
be a concern I think well just remember
2026 is only two years away correct yeah
the the Cadence and the
timing reports now is also right ahead
of our budget cycle so that's did
mention that and this will feed into our
conversation with Council about the IAP
midpoint checkin we have the results now
for Budget justification so we would
also have that um next version of the
inventory ahead of the go 27 27 28
budget
so I twoyear cycle keeps your Trend
going and if you're do at 2024
evaluation you're not
yes or late 2025 2026 yeah great
consideration
and jumping into Municipal
operations um so this is our very first
government operations greenhouse gas
inventory this is much based much more
based on um specific data we have right
so we were able to get from Puget Sound
Energy
how much electricity we used for our
government operations in 2022 we were
able to run a report with our fleet team
and figure out how much um gasoline did
we use uh for all of our vehicles right
we were able to input specifically our
specific electric vehicle mix for 20122
which was just one Nan Leaf so that
didn't have a huge
impact
we have that reflected in here
um overall the the government operations
inventory uh represents rough roughly 1%
of our CommunityWide emissions um the
emissions per full-time employee is uh
roughly on even again on par again with
our regional partner cities um we're
again right in the middle between um
bellw Kirkland redent and Mercer Island
um there are a number of different
things to note about this inventory so
for one uh the electricity that's
reported here electricity consumption
here is not fully representative of all
the electricity consumed uh at the city
because 79% of that Municipal
electricity is on the green direct
program which is a direct match for
match electric kilowatt of electricity
use here at the city with renewable
sources uh in western Washington there's
a Wind Facility and a solar facility
that's specifically relate to that and
through long conversations with uh
Cascadia Consulting and fugit Sound
Energy the decision was that this green
direct program was uh a a good match for
uh a good match of electricity use here
with the uh renewable energy development
in uh that we subscribe
to so this is actually the first
government operations inventory that
Cascadia has uh
reflected uh government electricity in
this way so that's important to note and
we are in conversations with Puget Sound
Energy about how we can um address the
rest of our uh electricity with uh
similar freefor
programs buying
electricity
PSC while investing into their green
generation system yeah so there's a
specific program called Green direct
which is what 79% of our Municipal
electricity is on um and essentially we
pay a premium on some of our electricity
the reason it's not 100% is because we
have changed our service levels over the
years and that's kind
of put some of our accounts out Etc but
when we purchase into it they developed
um a solar fa facility in lond and then
a Wind Facility
inum Chuck Washington um and basically
they opened this program up to mainly
Municipal customers and public customers
um and we could buy essentially a
certain number of of shares and connect
a certain number of our accounts with
the expected electri electricity
generation of those renewable
facilities so those the electric gen
we're essentially saying that the
electricity consumed here at the city
through on the accounts that are on the
green direct program that electricity is
coming from those um renewable systems
even though it's not you know one for
one electrons but it is uh that
electricity is only getting accounted
for our city accounts and not being
included in psc's you know greenhouse
gas inventory or you know on on their um
general grid uh how plant clean their
grid is
ETC does that help get a certification
for those credits so a document that
double I consider because I think that's
different than the residential like
green power and choice like I assumed it
was that this is actually better than
what I yes you might just mention that
because I think that's a better than
most people won't know that does is yeah
so this is one I think just like little
details here right the green direct
program is better than the green power
program the green direct program is
fully subscribed so if we were to
transition additional electric accounts
onto green purchasing programs it would
be the general uh commercial green power
program which is not as good in that
it's not as local renewable energy uh
Generation Um and the green director
program is fully subscribed and they're
not planning on currently expanding it
so we can't put more accounts on it
unfortunately however we're exploring
what other options look
like so I'm kind of changing subjects so
we done with that last one just before I
move on to different thought proc sure
I'm looking at your final bullet on this
page yeah and I know the city did some
construction projects they hired outside
contractors for such as a water pipeline
up on the hillside up here and stuff
like that are those included in this or
they excluded
from because that City
money that's a good question I believe
they're excluded from this you might
want to know that in your discussion
that Cy capital projects are not
included in this
inventory
yeah so this is specifically vehicle
miles traveled in emissions associated
with city
owns I just think that should be clear
because our operations does include
projects that we're paying
for good
clarification I think one of the other
things I want to point out here is that
you know natural gas is a little over a
quarter of our government operations in
most of that comes from three buildings
right the pool the Public Works complex
and then the community center right and
so one of the other topics that we
brought before the board before was our
Municipal Building Greenhouse no
Municipal Building decarbonization
assessment excuse me um and so there are
going to be different programs that are
specifically looking at how can we take
that natural gas use out of our
facilities right and we're currently
moving forward with a number of
different projects that hopefully are
going to going to help reduce this
number um our largest emissions within
Transportation are our Fleet do come
from law enforcement vehicles and then
the utility and construction maintenance
vehicles are our kind of second tier
there and then the other one I want to
point out is this challenge of employee
commute which is a whole quarter of our
government operations emissions right
and that is uh
that is going to be a hard n to crack as
we think about uh the different ways
that we can uh reduce those emissions we
do have the commute trip ruction program
we've got uh
teleworking we have public transit Etc
but um when we think about where our
Municipal programs can best address our
emissions it's most likely going to be
again in that built environment and
transportation space so electricity
natural gas and then the onroad fleet
and we have a number of different uh
projects in
specific to
that um on page 52 when we talk about
the trip reduction I do think there
should be a mention of remote work Flex
schedules um it's my understanding
from over the years that each department
operated differently and have their own
culture of how they address and what
really needs to happen is a shift in the
administration to promote the things
that we know will actually bring these
numers down right now there is not a
blanket approval for remote work a lot
of employees right it's depending on
which department you're in it's
depending upon um how our city
administrator has decided that he thinks
it should be rather than having a
blanket statement of saying this is
something we support this is community
and we support for our workers right
being able to have flexible hours of
when they're coming in and out also
helps with how much pollution they're
having rather than idle in right there's
a lot of different things that we can do
um and there's a culture shift that I
think needs to be addressed and it kind
of goes back to the things have been
talking about as to
what's the what are we trying to
advocate for with these numbers it's
something that I had coming up time and
time again was well where do we want to
go and where do we expect this needle to
fall and part of that isn't just um it
it's part of it too is a culture that we
need to be say we need to be doing this
differently and we can do this
differently um and I didn't really get
that from this presentation of where we
go what are we hoping to do and this is
a tangible example of something where we
can say we need to have remote work and
flexible work options for
all yeah I appreciate
that I think one positive is that we did
get preliminary numbers back in December
and some of these employee commute um
percent numbers were shared with the
city administrator and helped inform the
continuation of the policy to allow um
remote work for four out of the five
days of the week
so in in that way it has had some
tangible impacts already which is really
wonderful so that's just to be clear
that that 25% is obviously not everyone
sticks to the
policy but so that Stacy might have more
information on the policy specific but
there are definitely departments
especially ones where folks have to come
in to the office to do their job so
there's definitely the variety of
yeah if you work at the permit desk
hard are but there are places to
absolutely departments having more
harmonious culture right and right now
it's very peace yeah we have a um free
charging policy for staff right now a
pilot program too but I think one thing
to consider is we can address our
buildings we can address our Fleet this
is employee commute may become 90% of
our um emissions over time I mean we'll
see the number shrink but that
percentage of it because we have a we
have less control on which vehicles
employees are purchasing or where
they're hired from um where they're
traveling from we'll definitely be
promoting you know the public transit
and all those things but just know it's
just a percentage of our total emissions
and we hope to shrink our buildings and
fleets iFly so something's going to have
to grow in the pie well I mean we can
use lobbying efforts to advocate for
civil servants getting specific
subsidies right I mean there's there's
different things that we can do to help
promote portions of our population
having better access to buying and elect
absolutely yeah there's other things we
could do to within our tools right
absolutely yeah we we want to see our
government operations um reduced just
noting that we're going to see some
shifts in this p as we do you know if we
eliminate essentially that 21% of
electricity because we're able to buy
green power that number will shrink
somewhere else on the pie is going to
have to grow as a percentage of our
emissions question your electricity
natural gas that includes all City
facilities yes then where is your
equipment where's your Offroad Fleet
off-road Fleet um it's
that under 1% there there's a other
sources no it actually says off-road
Fleet underneath on onroad fleet missor
yeah it's a very small CLI
um so uh potentially this would be a a
slide to bring farther up as we
potentially as we talked to council but
this is specifically noting different
prr programs incentives policies um both
that we at the city are are pursuing as
well as or or you know actively working
on um as well at the state level that
will help us get to specific sources of
emissions right so Energy Smart east
side is a CommunityWide emissions that
will help reduce the natural gas uh
consumption in our community while
increasing um electricity consumption
the clean buildings Pro incentive
program again similarly will help both
reduce electric consumption through
Energy Efficiency as well as reducing
natural gas through the decarbonization
and electrification of um mainly large
but but other um commercial facilities
then there are a number of different um
state state efforts right so the
Washington building standards which are
going to help um address emissions from
new buildings there's the clean energy
transformation act which will help
address emissions from from our
electricity sector as that going to go
down one that we didn't have on here is
um Title 18 and thinking about how we
build a uh addressed our land use
patterns to build a more walkable
bikable isqua that will hopefully help
uh reduce our transportation emissions
and again down the line down the down
the line thinking about when light rail
gets to the city hopefully that'll have
an impact again on uh some emissions
thinking about our government sources
green direct is specifically focused at
that um government electricity um uh
greenhouse gas emissions the municipal
building decarbonization efforts which
includes both the feasibility analysis
the energy Audits and specific projects
that's going to help reduce that fossil
fuel uh natural gas portion of the
government operations thinking about our
own efforts um within the city to
transition our Fleet of vehicles to
electric vehicles and build out the
infrastructure to support that and then
again the commute trip Reduction Program
which was mentioned before and I know is
um going to get more attention I believe
this year as well so this is to just
highlight a few of the different
projects and efforts that are all uh
focused on different pieces of uh of our
those graphs and different pieces of our
mission sources
and you have a question thanks David uh
yes I think this is what I was
addressing earlier um
what do you think about adding some
more
solutions that um we're going to need
financial
support approved by the city council for
in this in this
area yeah I think that's that's a great
recommendation and something that we can
we can definitely include um I think
when it comes to specific numbers that
we can make we can make assumptions on
uh on um really financially what's it
going to going to take to decarbonize
for instance our own municipal buildings
or electrifier Fleet and that's a lot of
what we're going to be learning this
spring through a number of different
analyses right um and then we can also
talk about how uh to address those
emissions CommunityWide when we think
about where the city can fit into that
um we can we can mention the the need
for continued investment and engagement
in a number of the different programs
that already exist but also think about
um where else the city can kind of plug
into to the patchwork of efforts to to
help bring those numbers down so I think
that's a great
suggestion great
thanks so I know we're we're getting
close to the end of the the meeting so
uh I think kind of someone not some
overall analysis one of the the um
takeaways is that we are making
significant progress towards some of our
IAP goals um and we're not making a lot
of progress in other icap goals right
and so there is going to be uh you know
we have to continue to invest in our
efforts around building emissions and
transportation emissions um Etc to
really to really help us get to those uh
get to those goals let
see I have to disagree with okay I don't
think we are making significant progress
I think 177% production is just DP a
dribble and so I really question your
first
bullet the first bullet there are some
specific goals we are getting closer to
so for instance one of the Targets in
the I cap is to transition 100% of our
Municipal electricity to renewable
sources so we are getting closer to that
through the PSC programs and then
another one that is we're making
progress to that I would say you know
we have we are not achieving yet um but
for instance is the um energy use
reduction in existing buildings right so
there are specific Targets in the IAP
around percent reductions there that
we're getting that we're making more
significant progress to we still have a
lot to go there but luckily the data is
showing that we have made progress
towards that whereas some other targets
where we're far yes so I guess my
comment to you as though we are trying
to get more funding and more ability to
do this and by saying we're making
significant progress they increase our
efforts to get more um and you say we're
working to get there but we aren't there
yet if we have got solar power now
running the pool Community Center and I
mean yeah we've done some stuff because
those are things we can control but we
don't have any of that we may be trying
to get there so I really question your
first bullet and if that's the message
you want to send to city council I
disagree with you and that's just my
opinion but I don't know how the rest of
the board feels I think we have a long
ways to go and I think need to continue
to make efforts to try and reduce our
Greenhouse you know admissions
demonstrate leadership to businesses in
this community that we are doing things
to be climate friendly so that people
like Costco and REI follow our lead and
that's my challenge to you is let's not
send the message we're making big
progress we are working towards a goal
but we've got a lot of work to do ab so
maybe it's a reframing things so that uh
we're May we're doing things but we've
got a lot to do right to meet our goals
yeah I I agree with I mean I
think I also don't think that this is an
IAP update so I do wonder if that first
bullet should be specific to emissions
targets and like our performance against
emissions Targets in the IAP which I I
don't know how we perform to we should
we should probably have we should have
the numbers of like what was our Target
for 2022 how are we performing relative
to
2022 but I I do agree with with Nancy
that I think the first bullet doesn't
accurately like I think what we could
say is we've seen reductions but a lot
of it has come as a result of actions
outside of isqua like I that's the
message I get from hearing this is we're
benefiting from psse but we haven't
actually there's not been significant
change within the community which I
think is what what we're trying to get
done with the IAP is we're not just
going to sit and
sit wait for um for ESC to change their
their mix like so I I I do think that
the messaging here
is just in a different Focus than I
would have taken yeah I do think uh that
there's that talking about that talking
about how we're performing as overall
emissions targets and the addressable
portion of that and like what is
actually happening within the community
is how I would that bullet and if you're
talking Council we've got a long ways to
go and if we can get that message and we
need their support their financial
support their Network support because
they get connected businesses and you
know Community leaders and tribal
leaders and state leaders and we need
their help and so we want them not to
back off on the pedal we want them to
push it harder
okay I think the mention of the light
rail is a good example of that putting
our hopes on something in what 2046 is
it seems some something that it's like I
I I mean it seems kind of crazy for us
to be like we're gonna get there by the
time it's too late right and so the idea
is to say instead well how do we use
that power when we know where the last
stop what is it that we want right
recently were rejected for funding from
Olympia to even examine what it would be
to put a lid right and so it's like well
that didn't work so what else are we
going to do to say if this is the case
what do we want right I haven't seen big
discussions happen happen in that they
that transform us from saying what big
moves do we want to make we have a goal
we know where we want to go so what are
we going to do about it I think it's
being much more passive and this may be
an opportunity to talk about what is it
that we want and how do we then continue
to push that
forward I also don't see anything right
now um I know that it's a tangential
thing but right now we're not talking
about any inventory of um and chemicals
that are being used by the city and we
know there's a direct causality from
those with carbon emissions um on the on
the natural environment and so while it
may not be a part of the metrics right
now I do think it's an important thing
for us to be tracking and to be saying
how are we actually using where are we
using I love those little signs that I
find all over the parks right where
children are playing saying this has
been recently treated if you have any if
you have any concerns you could go and
call this right it's so it's most
ridiculous thing I've ever seen and uh
again children playing all around these
you know these little signs I would love
for us to be thinking about
when we have um our greenhouse gas
emissions that it's not just what's
coming out of our exhaust pipes right
there's a whole ecosystem that can be
impact as well and I'd like to see a
more targeting of that
okay I think Nancy made a good point
about talking to council here so you
want to lead Council down the path of
meaning to be a leader in the region and
show a good example of taking care of
our own house first where we can make
change even though it's only one % of
the total emissions of it's a at least
for showing an example and can make a
change there so that significant word
yeah that that jumps out um by my
council member and I see that hey look
at that great um that's not
reality just I think you heard it
throughout your presentation needs to be
kind of reformatted in a way where you
lay lay out some
ground steps up front
how the models set how the regional
efforts work before you get into the
Weeds on the the numbers and Graphics
sure where do we go
from Dixie I think we once Dixie goes I
think probably need to wrap on the
section we are coming up on time so I
think we're good on the slides so yes I
think um and maybe we'll talk about this
when we get into our goals and our
retreat but uh in my opinion
and I I said it before I think we need
to be the squeaky wheel and I own a
business in isqua and I can tell you
from my perspective there is no talk
about green anywhere in our world it
does not come through to up um and uh
and I am in a green business right so
there's no incentives like I I get
frustrated with this all day long
there's no incentives and I have a green
business why am why is this supp upon
not supporting me so what that tells me
is the coun we are not a priority
perhaps and I know they have a lot to do
government's complicated but um I think
this could be a great start in us saying
listen we're not going to take it
anymore and we want to see change and
this and you know we're here because we
want to see change and so let's yeah
let's like let's be a squeaky wheel
that's can I just add one thing to what
Dixie said and I had mentioned this
before you know bringing up to what she
said green businesses you know city of
isqua should uh Start program programs
where they give incentives for running
green businesses you know there should
be a carbon tax versus you know an
incentive green incentive you should
means there should be this discussion
brought up to city council or somewhere
the city needs to do that to actually
get it to the community and encourage
you know businesses to step up just a
note for everyone's piece of information
I actually get taxed extra because I
have a consignment store seriously I I
have to pay an extra BN tax it's not
it um I have an additional 1.5% I have
to pay on because it's a
service I still think I should have to
pay sales tax my customer should have we
PID sales tax on it why are they paying
that the whole another
day carbon tax is not new the state
state of Washington has been doing that
for big Industries and big companies for
a while now so you know that is
something and I know it's not in your
area but that is something I think City
Cil should be vok this is a great segue
I think for our next thing which Dave do
you have everything you need because I
think I think this has been very helpful
I will say there is a lot here so if you
have specific questions I have a number
of slides pulled up on other graphs so
if you want anything additional come
grab me right now or afterwards and I'm
happy to chat more and more and more
about this with y'all so thank you
for nice work a difficult topic you
navigate
there all right I think that wraps up
our our standard agenda items the next
item we have is proposed content for
environmental board and Retreat um this
Don and I think uh we're starting to
hear some of like this was great we
stared to hear some of the things from
from board members that we haven't heard
before I think that is the goal for this
this Retreat we have coming up um we're
going to be pulling together some
resources to hopefully get the juices
flowing in advance of the meeting but uh
I think the biggest thing that would
implore everyone in advance to be
thinking about um not just what do we
want to do this year but what are the
goals for isapa in the longer term what
what should the goals of the
environmental board be that are
consistent five years from now 10 years
from now um and that we make sure that
we are uh are staying on top of
regardless of what else might be going
on within the city that we're always
staying on top of so um I our goal is to
provide some more context some more
inspiration uh for materials in advance
of that meeting but that's something
that I hope everyone comes into that
meeting feeling like uh you've given
that some thought that you you you've
thought about what you're passionate
about you've thought about how uh the
things that you'd like to see happen in
the city uh and what the board could be
doing to to help those things because I
think that's overall what our a lot of
the feedback out of the survey was was
we just didn't feel like the identity
like we didn't have an identity as a
board as much as we felt like we should
so I think this is our opportunity to
have a conversation about what is our
identity what are our longer term goals
um and how how do we go about doing that
so there's more detail to com on I don't
know if you have any to add to that um
just format we talked about having you
know multiple tables maybe three to four
people per table if we get some council
members there have a council member or
so at each table um I'll throw out an
idea
if we can p them on the council
membership table maybe we can quiz them
up front you know have them bring the
top three goals for the environmental
board over the next five 10 years and
then you could bounce back your goals to
council member discussion on that see
where we land against where they land
and yeah to Echo what jie said don't
think about it as a 24 work plan meeting
um we want to think about it more as a
long
term driving force environmental course
and I I we we may have some other
attendance I don't think that that's
going to be a major component so I do
think the majority of who you'll be
talking to there will be board members
and it's it's about getting your
perspective I think if some others join
from counselor that that will be yeah
they might be able to provide and they
will be able to provide some valuable
context but at the end of the day it's
about us and you all bringing your
perspective so don't feel like if if
someone shows up that is on Council we
don't know if that's going to happen um
so I wouldn't rely on that and even if
they do I think this is still about your
perspectives like to a certain extent
they don't matter this is our meeting so
let's make sure that we don't we don't
get turned off by what anyone else might
say like it is I think the end of the
day about us bringing our perspectives
and coming to the table I think also
getting to know each other with better I
think that'll be a fun opportunity as as
a result of this too we do have a social
component like we're going to spend some
time before before we launch into all
the the things that Don mentioned about
uh just to get to know each other better
I think that was feedback that came out
of the survey as well that uh will help
us help us be a stronger unit get to
know each
other public and private do they get
participate it'll be a public meeting um
I think one component we might talk
about at that meeting is um Community
engagement um if there is time that
could be one of the agenda items but it
will be a public meeting so we have
round tables that we're sitting at five
or six will the public sit with us at at
each table um we're going to we're
having a planning meeting with Andrea SN
our Deputy City administrator soon um so
we can talk about that
opportunity yeah that that was not the
intent right now but we can at this
point but we can discuss that as
option
yeah suggestions and well I see you out
hry so um I do think one the other
things that please feel free if you have
there's things that you think should
happen during this meeting that you
really want as priorities either format
or otherwise please make sure to send
that to Stacy you can include Don and I
you'd like but Stacy and David to make
sure that that that's getting
Incorporated um because yeah again we do
want to make this have like we have a
starting point for what we hope would be
a valuable process and format for
everyone but we want to make sure that
you guys are also uh providing input on
on how to best come together during that
meeting so that's part of the reason we
wanted to give you a little bit of
context on what it was going to look
like so that you would have the ability
to react and and send along any other
requests or or
suggestions so and go
ahead will there be snacks or shall we
make it a
potluck I
requested turned down but I think we'll
we'll figure out a way just to at least
get some some drinks and cookies there
so but we'll send more information um
folks are welcome to bring their dinner
or shared snacks too we had shared
snacks at our December meeting for those
of you that missed it yeah I mean we
could easily make it a potluck right it
is during dinner time from 5:30 to
8:30 we'll be sending out a lot more
information next week
cool I think with that that is our one
report um and one other uh other
businessman announcement nice two
minutes of quick updates I'll try and
keep it to two minutes um really quick
updates on Council January 2nd they did
approve the um Municipal Building
decarbonization resolution with an
amendment to include a work plan that
would be delivered at the end of the
project and presented to back to count
Council and the um environmental board
to kind of provide Direction on what are
the next steps coming out of the
analysis um David's working to finalize
the scope of work um and we anticipate
we'll be bringing that report to you all
um this summer um and demonstrating
alignment with any proposed budget
requests um next week going before
council is approval of a um just under
$100,000 solar plus storage Grant from
Commerce this is for our resilience Hub
project that we've mentioned several
times have not talked to you about in
detail but we will um be doing so in the
future um also a solid waste assistance
grant that's going to continue our work
with schools on restarting their
Recycling and composting program as well
as bringing um some waste reduction
efforts to City sponsored and Community
sponsored
events um February 5th then going before
council is the envir enal board report
and um the greenhouse gas inventory um
I'll make another note about that
meeting in just a moment um couple other
quick items I wanted to mention I was
going to have David talk about the Evans
school project I'll just mention it
really quick um some of you may be
familiar with the University of
Washington Evans school um it they have
graduate students that um perform as
consultants for um public entities for
the most part we were lucky enough to
get one of those cohorts this year and
they're going to be working with us on a
carbon sequestration project identifying
um programs that we could initiate on
private and public lands to support
carbon sequestration that scope is still
being refined um but we anticipate
having them come and talk to the board
at the end of that project in the June
time
period um within your pocket was our
working draft work plan that will be in
informed by our discussions at The
Retreat while we'll be talking kind of
longer term as Jamie was mentioning we
will use those conversations to inform
our short-term work plan um but just
wanted to continue to provide that to
you so you have a heads up on what staff
anticipate meeting to bring to the board
um but again we'll be reworking that
based on um outcomes of the
retreat um real quick uh just to
highlight some of the upcoming meetings
and I did this in the recent email um we
have the January 25th Retreat January
31st we have another special meeting to
review the full um environmental
stewardship and climate resilience
element um we will be sending out that
full element around the 19th to allow
time for folks to review Send us track
changes send written comments ahead of
the January 31st meeting for those of
you that were around last year um we're
anticipating running that meeting
meeting somewhat like we did Title 18 I
know it was a very painful for 4-Hour
meeting but it was very productive and
it was very valuable having those
comments ahead of time so we could work
through them all at a board so
anticipate that later this month um I
know we're asking a lot of you in
January um and then February 5th we do
meet with Council um to present the
board report and greenhouse gas
inventory um you do not all need to be
there is optional Jamie and Don are
planning to be there um you are all
invited um as we share the results of
that report and hopefully some of the
results of our Retreat as well I can
send out another reminder about that um
and then the last meeting I'll just
highlight is our regular scheduled
meeting for February is February 14th I
am in conversations with the Parks Board
about possibly having a joint meeting at
the end of February to discuss the urban
forestry management plan if that gets
scheduled I would like to cancel the
February 14th meeting because we do not
need more special meetings on our
calendar but we may see a shift in the
timing of that or sorry of that
meeting that was a lot any question I
can send um I'll send another summary
out of those upcoming meetings um in the
future but any questions
on for
now
okay it's a busy January thank you we
have a lot but hope to lighten your load
later in
there thank
you