Development Commission · Wednesday, September 6, 2017 · City Council Digest

1. CALL TO ORDER

Commission Membership

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Development Commission About Staff Liaison Created in 1983, this commission reviews all land Christopher Wright, use actions requiring a Level 3 review. The Project Oversight Manager Commission further serves as an advisory board to Email the City Council on land use actions requiring council approval (Level 5 review). Regular Members 2018 – Jasmina Mihova The appearance of fairness doctrine prohibits 2018 – Raymond Leong Development Commission members and City 2018 – Richard Sowa Council members from discussing the merit of 2019 – Michael Brennan specific land use development applications outside 2019 – Randolph Harrison of the formal public meeting process. Citizens, 2020 – Melvin Morgan however, may discuss any issue with the City's 2020 – Kevin Price Development Services Department. Written comments are also welcome. Alternate Members 2018 – Robert Bakh Membership 2018 – Carl…

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of July 19, 2017

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CITY OF ISSAQUAH DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES July 19, 2017 City Hall South 135 E. Sunset Way Council Chambers Issaquah, WA 98027

Minutes of July 26, 2017

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CITY OF ISSAQUAH Development Commission—SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES July 26, 2017 City Hall South 135 E. Sunset Way Council Chambers Issaquah, WA 98027

Minutes of August 2, 2017

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Previously discussed: Planning Policy Commission · Aug 31, 2017

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CITY OF ISSAQUAH Development Commission MINUTES August 2, 2017 City Hall South 135 E. Sunset Way Council Chambers Issaquah, WA 98027

3. AGENDA ITEMS

Public Hearing Proposed Permit Amendments for Kelkari Phase 2 & 3

Director · Keith Niven, AICP, Development Services · packet pp.25–150

Topics: Land Use

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0:19 ↗ good evening ladies and gentlemen I'd

0:21 ↗ like to welcome you to the public

0:23 ↗ hearing for the proposed permit

0:25 ↗ amendments for khari

0:27 ↗ phases 2 & 3 we have a presentation that

0:32 ↗ will do a reasonable job of explaining

0:34 ↗ the project and what I'd like to do is

0:36 ↗ open up the meeting for some public

0:39 ↗ comment to hear what all you great

0:42 ↗ people that came out have and what your

0:43 ↗ thoughts are and then we'll have some

0:44 ↗ comments after that we'll close that

0:46 ↗ public part and then we'll have some

0:48 ↗ comments you don't expect there to be a

0:50 ↗ decision to make what we're doing is

0:51 ↗ really listening and then trying to pay

0:53 ↗ attention to what's going on we have a

0:55 ↗ few administrative things to do before

0:57 ↗ we get going with that we have some

0:58 ↗ minutes from some previous meetings and

1:00 ↗ so what I would like to ask is for a

1:03 ↗ motion that would prove all three of

1:06 ↗ those minutes unless somebody and if a

1:10 ↗ Commissioner has some comments or some

1:12 ↗ changes to identify that specific

1:15 ↗ meeting note and the changes you'd like

1:19 ↗ to make so you have a small question on

1:22 ↗ page 16 of the minutes on the table row

1:27 ↗ over 70 of 93 I think there is a

1:31 ↗ Commissioner identified there as ro EHL

1:34 ↗ should that be rotor roee ter yes okay

1:39 ↗ and same thing on page 17 the rower is

1:44 ↗ 81 of 93 excellent Thank You mr. chair I

1:51 ↗ move we approved the minutes for July 19

1:53 ↗ July 26 in August 2nd 2017 great a

2:00 ↗ second great ND discussion further

2:03 ↗ comments all those in favor say aye I

2:05 ↗ posed excellent so let's go

2:11 ↗ okay

2:17 ↗ so good evening Development Commission

2:20 ↗ Keith Niven director of economic

2:22 ↗ development and development services for

2:23 ↗ the city so tonight get to get back into

2:28 ↗ what we do which is review permits we've

2:30 ↗ been talking architecture and urban

2:33 ↗ design for a while and as fun as that

2:35 ↗ was back to work so this one is it's a

2:41 ↗ little bit of an odd duck and I'm gonna

2:44 ↗ start by apologizing because the staff

2:47 ↗ report is really complicated and long

2:50 ↗ and part of the reason for that is what

2:53 ↗ we're doing is we're actually reviewing

2:55 ↗ an amendment to an existing approval

2:58 ↗ which is different than reviewing an

3:00 ↗ application basically where there's no

3:03 ↗ there's just city code to review it

3:05 ↗ against here we actually had to review

3:07 ↗ it against the decision that was made in

3:09 ↗ 1999 and so that makes it a little bit

3:11 ↗ more complicated and as I originally

3:12 ↗ wrote the staff report I thought well

3:15 ↗ how are you guys gonna go back and look

3:17 ↗ at what was originally done and compare

3:19 ↗ it to what's being recommended now and

3:20 ↗ that seemed like a really complicated

3:22 ↗ process to go through and so what I did

3:25 ↗ is I took the original staff report and

3:29 ↗ I actually added commentary and text and

3:33 ↗ new conditions to it and hopefully that

3:35 ↗ that was somewhat understandable as you

3:38 ↗ guys went through your packet this

3:39 ↗ evening so what I'm going to do is is go

3:42 ↗ through a semi brief presentation but

3:47 ↗ then what I would like to do is go

3:49 ↗ through the proposed conditions so that

3:52 ↗ you can understand what was originally

3:55 ↗ conditioned as part of the original

3:58 ↗ approval where that condition lies today

4:02 ↗ and then what new conditions the

4:06 ↗ administration is recommending that we

4:08 ↗ add to this particular application seem

4:11 ↗ like at least for me that was a good

4:12 ↗ starting spot to go through that'll be a

4:14 ↗ little bit arduous but I'll try and get

4:16 ↗ through it fairly quickly and then

4:18 ↗ whether or not the applicant wants to

4:21 ↗ you know provide some sort of commentary

4:24 ↗ or additional information that might be

4:25 ↗ a good opportunity for

4:26 ↗ that and we can open up for public

4:28 ↗ comment and then commission can ask

4:30 ↗ questions if that's the way you would

4:32 ↗ like to proceed okay so project location

4:36 ↗ SoCal khari is located basically on both

4:41 ↗ sides of sunrise place southwest and

4:44 ↗ that's in kind of the south eastern

4:48 ↗ portion of the city it's shown generally

4:51 ↗ by this bubble diagram looking at the

4:57 ↗ project it's really so phase 2 and phase

5:00 ↗ 3 are actually split by sunrise place

5:03 ↗ phase 2 and I'm kind of directionally

5:06 ↗ challenged I think is on the north side

5:08 ↗ and then set the north side that's the

5:12 ↗ east side so the East let's go at East

5:15 ↗ so phase 2 is on the east side and phase

5:18 ↗ 3 is on the west side phase 2 will be

5:23 ↗ adjacent to phase 1 which you can see in

5:26 ↗ this photo which is already constructed

5:28 ↗ phase 3 on the other side of the street

5:31 ↗ is currently undeveloped land and that

5:36 ↗ is undeveloped so what's being proposed

5:39 ↗ right now is 72 townhouses on common

5:45 ↗ parcels so they will be condominiums but

5:48 ↗ they will be in more of a townhouse

5:50 ↗ format than in a stacked flat format

5:53 ↗ Kelkar e phase 1 you can see in the

5:57 ↗ photograph it is more of a stacked flat

6:02 ↗ project than a townhouse project so just

6:05 ↗ kind of getting you kind of thinking

6:07 ↗ about this in terms of different types

6:09 ↗ of housing units and what was originally

6:12 ↗ approved versus what's proposed right

6:14 ↗ now as as you can see from the slide

6:18 ↗ phase 2 and phase 3 originally included

6:21 ↗ approval for 126 condominiums what's

6:24 ↗ being proposed today is 72 townhouse

6:27 ↗ condominiums the reason why we're here

6:32 ↗ so this is technically an administrative

6:34 ↗ decision this is if you look at the city

6:37 ↗ code and you look at

6:39 ↗ what's considered a minor amendment to a

6:43 ↗ master site plan and an administrative

6:46 ↗ site development permit you would

6:48 ↗ basically see that it is a level two

6:50 ↗ review level to review is not a

6:52 ↗ Development Commission review so you

6:55 ↗ could say okay why are we even here we

6:56 ↗ are here because the administration

6:59 ↗ believed that this application was so

7:01 ↗ complicated because it's not just

7:03 ↗ dealing with the old approval site

7:07 ↗ development permit approval but it's

7:09 ↗ also dealing with a binding site plan

7:11 ↗ amendment and a master site plan

7:13 ↗ amendment and we had some concerns from

7:16 ↗ the adjacent community and I'm glad that

7:18 ↗ they are here this evening that caused

7:21 ↗ the administration to say you know what

7:23 ↗ rather than us just review this

7:25 ↗ application and make a decision let's go

7:28 ↗ ahead and bring this to the Development

7:29 ↗ Commission and allow for some additional

7:32 ↗ public comment and that way the process

7:34 ↗ can be a more transparent and hopefully

7:37 ↗ have a better outcome than if the

7:38 ↗ administration just made this decision

7:40 ↗ as a normal faith level to decision so

7:44 ↗ that's why we're here the administration

7:46 ↗ kicked this up to you guys and so you

7:48 ↗ guys are the decision-makers tonight

7:49 ↗ okay and if there's questions feel free

7:54 ↗ to stop me I'm good with that all right

7:56 ↗ so at this point I'm gonna think the

8:00 ↗ Commission can ask questions at this

8:02 ↗ point the public sorry the public will

8:05 ↗ have an opportunity as soon as I get

8:06 ↗ through this I promise I won't take too

8:08 ↗ long

8:08 ↗ no worries so the original condition

8:14 ↗ here is the black text and then the red

8:18 ↗ text is my ad

8:19 ↗ okay so conditions 1 2 & 3 really relate

8:23 ↗ to impact fees what the impact fees were

8:25 ↗ at the time what has been paid and what

8:28 ↗ is still owed I am NOT gonna read

8:31 ↗ through those hopefully you guys

8:32 ↗ understand the impact fee formula for

8:34 ↗ the city and like I said if you have

8:37 ↗ questions let me know

8:39 ↗ condition number four related to street

8:41 ↗ improvements okay for a I'm gonna go

8:45 ↗ ahead and read through these sunset play

8:46 ↗ Southwest shall be improved to meet

8:48 ↗ current Street cross sections or the

8:51 ↗ equivalent and shall

8:52 ↗ have 32 feet of paving and sidewalk on

8:55 ↗ one side okay so we're gonna stop here

8:59 ↗ because in some places I'm gonna admit

9:03 ↗ on a hundred page staff report I gave

9:06 ↗ you there's some technical inaccuracies

9:07 ↗ here we are number one

9:11 ↗ sunrise place Southwest is currently 28

9:15 ↗ feet and part of this application was a

9:19 ↗ request to leave it at 28 feet not widen

9:22 ↗ it to 30 to 28 feet is basically to 10

9:27 ↗ foot travel lanes and a parallel parking

9:30 ↗ that's 8 feet wide so that meets city

9:33 ↗ standard and right now our position is

9:37 ↗ that that's wide enough to widen that

9:40 ↗ Street by another 4 feet would actually

9:43 ↗ lead to an increase in speeds on that

9:47 ↗ road because a wider road will lead to

9:49 ↗ people driving faster because they will

9:51 ↗ feel like they have the ability to do

9:53 ↗ that so I so our position is to leave it

9:56 ↗ at 28 and that's why I'm for a write

10:00 ↗ down defying it's complete for B widen

10:04 ↗ and reach channel the intersection of

10:05 ↗ Newports way and Wildwood Boulevard

10:08 ↗ Boulevard Southwest the design

10:11 ↗ tentatively includes separate left and

10:13 ↗ right turn lanes from Wildwood Boulevard

10:15 ↗ Southwest on to Newport Way and a single

10:18 ↗ lane from Newport way on to Wildwood

10:20 ↗ Boulevard Southwest a concommittant I

10:26 ↗ don't even know what that means

10:27 ↗ agreement is also required for full

10:30 ↗ signalization of the center section if

10:32 ↗ warranted by future traffic of which Cal

10:34 ↗ carry related traffic forms a

10:36 ↗ substantial part or accident conditions

10:39 ↗ and if such signalization will cause a

10:42 ↗ demonstratable improvement in traffic

10:46 ↗ flow yes all right

10:49 ↗ so for B so I checked with our

10:52 ↗ engineering department and they told me

10:54 ↗ that 4 B is complete so this condition

10:56 ↗ has been satisfied and there's no

10:58 ↗ additional requirement coming out of 4b

11:02 ↗ 4c the right away across Cal khari shall

11:05 ↗ be 50 feet

11:06 ↗ and shall be improved with as mentioned

11:10 ↗ in for a 28 feet of paving and five foot

11:13 ↗ sidewalks on both sides of the roadway

11:15 ↗ and we're deeming that complete for D

11:20 ↗ the applicant shall sign a concomitant

11:24 ↗ agreement for the cost of applicants

11:27 ↗ fair share of a pedestrian crossing on

11:29 ↗ the Clark Street bridge as required

11:31 ↗ under the mitigation section of

11:33 ↗ foothills draft environmental impact

11:35 ↗ statement page 148 in a traffic study

11:38 ↗ this has been determined by the city to

11:41 ↗ be no longer applicable for e

11:44 ↗ construction of a school bus turn out if

11:47 ↗ required by the school district at the

11:49 ↗ intersection of Wildwood and sunrise

11:51 ↗ place right now that's not required for

11:55 ↗ F replaced the existing culvert at Cabin

12:00 ↗ Creek with a bottomless arch culvert

12:02 ↗ designed to the specifications of and

12:06 ↗ approved by the city's Public Works

12:08 ↗ Department that culvert has been

12:10 ↗ replaced for let's see we're on a this

12:15 ↗ is kind of a this is still part of four

12:20 ↗ so a this is kind of like easements and

12:24 ↗ encumbrances so a is an additional

12:27 ↗ easement area or dedication shall be

12:30 ↗ made to the city as may be required

12:32 ↗ during final design stage to ensure

12:35 ↗ adequate line-of-sight and that's a

12:37 ↗ that's for traffic is provided all

12:40 ↗ intersections and justifications of the

12:42 ↗ roadway system and that's that's that

12:45 ↗ that is required still so we're where

12:49 ↗ the access points are for phase two and

12:51 ↗ phase three out onto Sunrise there will

12:53 ↗ need to be adequate line of sites for

12:55 ↗ cars coming in and exiting at those

12:58 ↗ locations and if there is line-of-sight

13:01 ↗ encumbrances at those driveways or

13:04 ↗ street intersections those will need to

13:05 ↗ be recorded so see provide the city with

13:10 ↗ slope easements or construct retaining

13:13 ↗ walls in the right-of-way at the

13:15 ↗ direction of Public Works per public

13:17 ↗ works requirements for

13:18 ↗ public roadways and show these easements

13:20 ↗ on the final plat that has been done D

13:24 ↗ work with Metro to develop a

13:26 ↗ transportation management plan for that

13:29 ↗ development which incorporates the

13:31 ↗ following provide a free one month bus

13:34 ↗ pass to renters so this is this is this

13:39 ↗ is no longer necessary since these are

13:42 ↗ for sale units having a transportation

13:44 ↗ management plan for a subdivision

13:46 ↗ doesn't really make sense it's not what

13:48 ↗ we do the applicant shall maintain them

13:51 ↗ on five a minimum 50-foot buffer from

13:54 ↗ the ordinary high water mark of you skip

13:57 ↗ me just for D B as in Baker Baker I'm

14:01 ↗ sorry right away for the cul-de-sac Road

14:06 ↗ shall measure 37 feet in width these

14:08 ↗ right away shall shall come city streets

14:13 ↗ I'm gonna guess that's become city

14:15 ↗ streets and shall be improve with 24

14:19 ↗ feet of paving which accommodates

14:21 ↗ five-foot sidewalk on one side so the

14:23 ↗ current plan for both phase 2 and phase

14:25 ↗ 3 don't include cul-de-sacs

14:27 ↗ they actually include a split tee and

14:30 ↗ turn around and we'll get to that when

14:32 ↗ we get to the site plan so this is no

14:35 ↗ longer applicable thank you and then

14:38 ↗ five is the applicant shall maintain a

14:40 ↗ 50-foot buffer from the ordinary high

14:43 ↗ water mark of Cabin Creek you can see

14:45 ↗ Cabin Creek is actually located so if

14:49 ↗ that's east and west that would be north

14:51 ↗ north of phase one it's closest to phase

14:54 ↗ one which is right here phase two and

14:57 ↗ phase three are farther away from Cabin

15:00 ↗ Creek and so that 50-foot buffer is part

15:03 ↗ of the current proposal number six the

15:07 ↗ applicant shall maintain a minimum

15:09 ↗ buffer of ten feet from the top slash

15:11 ↗ toe of all steep slopes plus maintain a

15:13 ↗ minimum building setback of 15 feet from

15:16 ↗ the slope buffers native growth

15:18 ↗ protection easement signs which are for

15:21 ↗ the identification of protection of

15:24 ↗ steep sloped areas shall be placed at

15:26 ↗ steep sloped areas as required by the

15:28 ↗ public works department so

15:31 ↗ my clarification on this condition is

15:34 ↗ man-made steep slopes may be regraded

15:36 ↗ pursuant to the city code so some of the

15:39 ↗ slopes out on that property we're

15:41 ↗ actually they're not naturally occurring

15:44 ↗ they occurred due to previous grading

15:46 ↗ activities and for the city code they're

15:49 ↗ allowed to be regraded and buffers for

15:53 ↗ steep slopes including protection

15:55 ↗ easements and signage is governed also

15:57 ↗ by section 1810 one clarification on

16:01 ↗ this condition is that right now the

16:04 ↗ city code does allow for some minor

16:08 ↗ intrusions within buffers of steep

16:12 ↗ slopes and I don't believe that the

16:15 ↗ intent of of condition six was to not

16:18 ↗ allow for the city code to apply so so

16:22 ↗ even though this says the applicant

16:24 ↗ shall maintain a minimum buffer of ten

16:25 ↗ feet the expectation is is where the

16:29 ↗ city code allows for some intrusions or

16:32 ↗ within the 15 foot building setback area

16:36 ↗ that as long as they met the criteria

16:38 ↗ from city code that that would still

16:40 ↗ apply number seven

16:43 ↗ prior to issuance of building permit the

16:45 ↗ applicant shall establish a mechanism

16:47 ↗ acceptable to the city which notifies

16:49 ↗ future buyers of the apartment

16:51 ↗ condominium units or Lots that steep

16:54 ↗ slope buffers were reduced and that

16:56 ↗ development has occurred within 50 feet

16:58 ↗ of steep slope the applicant shall

17:00 ↗ execute an agreement that indemnifies

17:02 ↗ and holds the city harmless for

17:04 ↗ development within 50 feet of slope so

17:06 ↗ this is required we do this in other

17:08 ↗ places where development encroaches

17:10 ↗ within critical areas to identify two

17:13 ↗ property owners that hey you just

17:15 ↗ purchased land that either is on an

17:17 ↗ existing or a graded slope and therefore

17:20 ↗ it indemnifies the city from future

17:22 ↗ liability number eight a building permit

17:28 ↗ and Public Works construction permit

17:30 ↗ shall first be issued prior to

17:32 ↗ construction of the project that is also

17:35 ↗ required and then I did add unless

17:37 ↗ otherwise approved by the director so in

17:40 ↗ some cases

17:41 ↗ so this says building permit and

17:43 ↗ works and it is not always the practice

17:48 ↗ of the city to require both the building

17:50 ↗ permit and a site work permit at the

17:52 ↗ same time if you know and if an

17:55 ↗ applicant wants to grade and put in

17:57 ↗ utilities prior to having a building

18:00 ↗ permit those are things we do allow so

18:03 ↗ but I didn't want to give that out right

18:05 ↗ and that's why it says that the

18:06 ↗ discretion of the director number nine

18:09 ↗ prior to issuance of the building permit

18:11 ↗ for phase one the applicant shall make

18:12 ↗ connections between the service areas of

18:15 ↗ the Wildwood and Mount Hood water

18:16 ↗ reservoirs per the approval of Public

18:19 ↗ Works Department to provide adequate

18:21 ↗ fire flow the cost of the connection

18:24 ↗ shall be the responsibility of the

18:25 ↗ applicant phase two and phase three of

18:27 ↗ Kelkar we shall also not go forward

18:29 ↗ until the city can assure adequate fire

18:31 ↗ flow so that is complete those

18:33 ↗ connections have been made and there is

18:35 ↗ adequate fire flow in the area number

18:38 ↗ ten the applicant shall participate in

18:40 ↗ the cost of that proposed four eighty

18:42 ↗ zone water reservoir that is also

18:45 ↗ complete number eleven prior to issue

18:48 ↗ into the building permit Public Works

18:49 ↗ Department shall approve final design of

18:51 ↗ the stormwater system and that is

18:53 ↗ required number twelve the Public Works

18:56 ↗ Department shall have final approval of

18:58 ↗ textured concrete that's proposed to be

19:01 ↗ used across Southwest Sunrise place

19:03 ↗ linking the north and south sides of the

19:06 ↗ project my comment on that is no

19:10 ↗ textured concrete shall be placed across

19:12 ↗ Sunrise place and let us did unless it

19:15 ↗ is determined necessary by the city as a

19:16 ↗ visual cue for pedestrian crossings

19:19 ↗ other means such as pedestrian crossing

19:22 ↗ signage shall be explored the reason for

19:24 ↗ that is although textured concrete is is

19:28 ↗ nice to look at and planners love it and

19:31 ↗ I'm a planner so I can say that it's a

19:34 ↗ it's kind of a maintenance headache for

19:36 ↗ the city and so it is a tool in the

19:39 ↗ toolbox to help cue drivers that there's

19:42 ↗ pedestrians crossing but it's not the

19:45 ↗ only one and so what this condition is

19:47 ↗ saying is is that they should explore

19:50 ↗ other proposed methods to safely get

19:54 ↗ people across Sunrise place than texture

19:57 ↗ concrete number thirteen all compact and

20:02 ↗ accessible parking stalls shall be

20:04 ↗ appropriately labeled its required

20:06 ↗ number fourteen the applicant shall

20:08 ↗ inter discussion with his cost school

20:10 ↗ district concerning bus route access to

20:12 ↗ the site that's been done already number

20:15 ↗ fifteen all significant trees within the

20:18 ↗ vicinity of the site construction that

20:20 ↗ are proposed to be saved shall be

20:22 ↗ protected in accordance with section

20:23 ↗ eighteen twelve

20:24 ↗ one eighty D preservation of trees of

20:27 ↗ land-use code those measures may include

20:30 ↗ but not limited to fencing around the

20:32 ↗ trees that is required number sixteen

20:35 ↗ the area north of building three so

20:39 ↗ started sorry I made you a little map

20:41 ↗ here because I started doing buildings

20:43 ↗ going okay where are we really talking

20:44 ↗ about so the area north of building

20:46 ↗ three so you look at the areas that I

20:48 ↗ have like green blobs on this map that I

20:51 ↗ gave you here those are the areas where

20:54 ↗ this condition is asking for additional

20:56 ↗ vegetation so that is still required and

21:01 ↗ would be done with the landscape permit

21:04 ↗ for this project seventeen all

21:07 ↗ landscaping shall be irrigated is

21:09 ↗ required by chapter eighteen twelve one

21:11 ↗ sixty D of the imc that's required

21:14 ↗ eighteen any changes or substitutions to

21:17 ↗ the landscaping shall be approved first

21:19 ↗ by the development services department

21:22 ↗ these days we don't have a Planning

21:23 ↗ Department before being implemented

21:25 ↗ that's required number nineteen a cash

21:30 ↗ deposit of fifty percent of the value of

21:33 ↗ the landscape material shall be posted

21:35 ↗ with the city prior to receipt of a

21:37 ↗ temporary final certificate of occupancy

21:39 ↗ as required by eighteen twelve Oh 50 a

21:42 ↗ that's actually not a correct citation

21:45 ↗ the citation should be eighteen twelve

21:48 ↗ one sixty a two and the way that that

21:54 ↗ code section reads is it says cash

21:56 ↗ deposit or other surety typically we get

22:00 ↗ construction and maintenance bonds and

22:02 ↗ not actual cash the city otherwise would

22:05 ↗ get robbed a lot probably so we have

22:07 ↗ other guarantees typically than cash

22:10 ↗ could use cash but most developers don't

22:12 ↗ like to post that much cash number 20 a

22:17 ↗ monitoring and maintenance plan for both

22:19 ↗ Cabin Creek stream restoration and the

22:21 ↗ wetland enhancement shall be provided

22:23 ↗ it's complete number 21

22:26 ↗ a sign permit shall be required to be

22:28 ↗ issued by the city prior to the

22:29 ↗ installation of the monument signs the

22:32 ↗ proposed monument signs shall also have

22:34 ↗ a minimum 2 foot setback from the

22:35 ↗ property line safe sight distance must

22:38 ↗ be met so there is a calque re monument

22:41 ↗ sign out there now part of this proposal

22:44 ↗ is to move it so that would all these

22:47 ↗ provisions in 21 would be required to

22:49 ↗ move for the move all that that not sure

22:53 ↗ that made sense but anyway so 22 parking

22:56 ↗ for 32 bicycles shall be required based

22:58 ↗ on chapter 1809 Oh 30 I or one let's go

23:04 ↗ with one of the land use code bicycle

23:08 ↗ parking racks shall be placed on both

23:10 ↗ North and South parcels of the project

23:13 ↗ site the location and design of the bike

23:15 ↗ rack shall be provided with building

23:17 ↗ permits bike rack shall be included in

23:21 ↗ phase 2 and phase 3 is part of the

23:22 ↗ common area improvements these racks

23:24 ↗ need not accommodate 32 bicycles but

23:28 ↗ sufficient quantity 7 per face shall be

23:31 ↗ provided for guests at the convenience

23:33 ↗ of residents this requirement will be

23:35 ↗ reviewed with the building permit number

23:39 ↗ 23 and and part of that is and I'm

23:44 ↗ looking at a furrowed brow from

23:46 ↗ commissioner morgan part of that is as

23:49 ↗ actually not that we think bicycles are

23:53 ↗ not important it's the fact that as this

23:57 ↗ project has moved from more like a

23:59 ↗ stacked flat condominium project to a

24:02 ↗ townhouse project with garages there's

24:04 ↗ actually bicycle parking in each garage

24:06 ↗ so so you have even though what this is

24:10 ↗ basically looks like on the surfaces

24:12 ↗ that we're saying less bicycle parking

24:13 ↗ is fine it's actually we're saying that

24:15 ↗ there needs to be bicycle parking in the

24:17 ↗ common areas both in phases 2 and phase

24:20 ↗ 3 but all of the garages and each unit

24:22 ↗ will have its own individual

24:23 ↗ Raj will have the opportunity for

24:25 ↗ bicycle parking in the garage so so we

24:28 ↗ believe that there's actually an

24:29 ↗ equivalent or more bicycle parking

24:33 ↗ spaces being provided with this proposal

24:36 ↗ 23 details of lighting fixtures and

24:39 ↗ standards shall be provided with the

24:40 ↗ building permit 24 all common use

24:43 ↗ facilities such as recreational

24:45 ↗ facilities garbage and recycling

24:47 ↗ collection areas mailbox location for

24:50 ↗ yeas management office shall be

24:52 ↗ accessible as required by WAC 11 of

24:55 ↗ three one eight one

24:58 ↗ in addition advance warning demarcation

25:00 ↗ is required at curb handicapped ramps

25:03 ↗ really at this point you know the

25:05 ↗ clubhouse was built with phase one and

25:07 ↗ because this is turning into more of a

25:09 ↗ townhouse project really all we're

25:11 ↗ talking about this point is accessible

25:12 ↗ routes and so the ramp locations is

25:15 ↗ still applicable 25 the following

25:19 ↗ conditions shall be implemented as

25:20 ↗ required by the police department

25:21 ↗ building security requests commercial

25:25 ↗ quality looking mechanisms and deadbolt

25:28 ↗ locks and peep holes on exterior

25:31 ↗ personal doors considerations should be

25:34 ↗ given to security of exterior windows

25:37 ↗ and sliding glass doors to prevent

25:39 ↗ offers entry Lighting's should be

25:41 ↗ provided for personnel entrance and

25:44 ↗ exits you know clearly this condition

25:47 ↗ was written for a different housing type

25:48 ↗ than what's being proposed and so my

25:51 ↗ response back was not applicable for the

25:53 ↗ townhouse project the building and units

25:55 ↗ should contain a highly visible and

25:58 ↗ lighted address identifier for nighttime

26:01 ↗ identification for emergency responders

26:05 ↗ six-inch minimum so so the address piece

26:09 ↗ is still important and these will likely

26:12 ↗ have individual building addresses in

26:16 ↗ addition to potentially like a four-plex

26:18 ↗ may have a particular building number

26:21 ↗ that will be all decided later with

26:24 ↗ building permit an agreement and posting

26:27 ↗ of parking areas for unauthorized

26:29 ↗ vehicle impounds again so there's

26:33 ↗ individual parking spaces for each unit

26:36 ↗ and then

26:36 ↗ there's a number of guest parking spaces

26:40 ↗ you know they will post those guest

26:44 ↗ parking but having an agreement for

26:48 ↗ towing you know will ultimately be a

26:51 ↗ decision for the homeowners association

26:53 ↗ on whether they feel like they need to

26:54 ↗ go to that extreme or not the city's not

26:57 ↗ going to enforce whether they're towing

26:59 ↗ or not from the guest parking spaces

27:01 ↗ it's not gonna happen so 26 the

27:04 ↗ following conditions shall be

27:05 ↗ implemented as required by the C's by

27:07 ↗ the East Side Fire and Rescue at this

27:09 ↗ point the buildings shall be fully

27:11 ↗ sprinklered my comment is if required by

27:13 ↗ code so that's based on a certain square

27:16 ↗ footage per building and whether or not

27:18 ↗ they trigger that is all governed by the

27:21 ↗ building code portable fire

27:23 ↗ extinguishers will be required again if

27:25 ↗ required by code yes

27:27 ↗ stores fittings will be required on fire

27:29 ↗ hydrants and before any combustible

27:31 ↗ materials are placed on the site yes

27:33 ↗ that's still true fire lanes are to be

27:36 ↗ painted red with white letters stating

27:38 ↗ fire lane no parking that's still

27:39 ↗ required and approved monitoring fire

27:42 ↗ alarm system shall be installed again

27:45 ↗ that's not applicable for townhouse

27:48 ↗ project Knox box shall be required the

27:51 ↗ location is to be determined by the fire

27:52 ↗ department again I don't believe that to

27:55 ↗ be required so here are the new

27:57 ↗ conditions based on the proposed

27:59 ↗ submittal number one is increase the

28:03 ↗ modulation in the building fronts from 2

28:06 ↗ to 3 feet that's actually in the city

28:09 ↗ code i am c o7 440 d to be B is

28:15 ↗ buildings will be a minimum of 5 feet

28:18 ↗ from sunrise place that's to meet the

28:20 ↗ setback requirements numbers see the

28:23 ↗ relocated 10 feet I'm sorry what did I

28:26 ↗ say sorry I was here till 3 a.m.

28:28 ↗ yesterday so a little bit punchy so

28:35 ↗ sorry see the relocated project sign is

28:38 ↗ not approved as part of this permit but

28:40 ↗ requires a separate sign permit I

28:42 ↗ mentioned that earlier D is continue the

28:45 ↗ sidewalk along the west side of phase 3

28:48 ↗ to connect to sunrise place

28:50 ↗ the additional impacts to critical areas

28:52 ↗ may be mitigated through the planting of

28:54 ↗ additional vegetation so let me take a

28:56 ↗ moment and just point I apologize I'd

28:58 ↗ like to have actually two screens but I

29:01 ↗ don't have two screens so I'm going to

29:02 ↗ use my handy dandy

29:04 ↗ little map here to show you so as you

29:07 ↗ look at the sidewalk along the we

29:10 ↗ established that was East that east-west

29:12 ↗ sorry the west end of Phase three it

29:15 ↗ stops right here you know the reason why

29:20 ↗ they did not kind of curve it up to

29:23 ↗ sunrise place is because this is the

29:25 ↗ buffer for Cabin Creek but I think we

29:29 ↗ can work with the applicant and a

29:31 ↗ mitigation plan to actually get the

29:33 ↗ sidewalk to go all the way to sunrise

29:35 ↗ frankly we have too many sidewalks in

29:39 ↗ our community that just end and getting

29:41 ↗ them all the way to a place where they

29:43 ↗ can then connect to another sidewalk

29:45 ↗ seem like an important place for us to

29:48 ↗ go I am now on E

29:56 ↗ thank you so in lieu of street trees on

29:59 ↗ the private roads serving phases two and

30:02 ↗ three an equivalent number of trees

30:03 ↗ shall be planted on the property this

30:06 ↗ calculation shall be provided with the

30:08 ↗ submitted landscape plan okay back to my

30:10 ↗ drawing so if you look if when you get a

30:13 ↗ plan oh by the way my apologies for how

30:18 ↗ the packet got photocopied that's not

30:20 ↗ the way mine looked if you guys would

30:22 ↗ like 11 by 17 plan set I can get them in

30:26 ↗ the mail to you this week so you'll have

30:28 ↗ them before the next meeting so if you

30:29 ↗ would hence so I can make copy available

30:37 ↗ all right

30:38 ↗ let's let's talk lemme give me your

30:40 ↗ contact information so everybody

30:42 ↗ everybody all right so I will get you

30:45 ↗ guys 11 by 17 plans probably by tomorrow

30:48 ↗ in the mail okay so that way we'll have

30:51 ↗ them plenty of time before the next

30:52 ↗ meeting so if you if you look at the

30:55 ↗ plans on the street that serve these

30:59 ↗ your typical Street section is

31:03 ↗ curb gutter planter strip sidewalk a

31:08 ↗ curb gutter planter strips sidewalk

31:11 ↗ planter strip has street trees in the

31:15 ↗ proposal that we have in front of us

31:17 ↗ they've requested to kind of scrunch

31:20 ↗ down the street section to remove the

31:22 ↗ planter strip there's still sidewalks

31:25 ↗ which we find important but what you get

31:28 ↗ then is you get the loss of the street

31:30 ↗ trees and what this condition is saying

31:32 ↗ is if we had provided the normal Street

31:35 ↗ section we would have had X number of

31:38 ↗ street trees those trees need to be need

31:41 ↗ to find their way into this project

31:43 ↗ somehow somewhere so that's excuse me so

31:46 ↗ that's something that this condition is

31:48 ↗ saying that they have to do with their

31:50 ↗ landscape plan F each garage will be

31:56 ↗ large enough to accommodate two standard

31:58 ↗ parking stalls now I added this

32:01 ↗ dimension in here because they actually

32:03 ↗ asked for a minor reduction to eight and

32:06 ↗ a half by eighteen and the city's

32:09 ↗ standard is is nine by eighteen or

32:13 ↗ nineteen but we do allow

32:14 ↗ eight-and-a-half by eighteen as a

32:15 ↗ standard stall and so we're okay with

32:20 ↗ that slight reduction in with spaces and

32:23 ↗ have room for waste bins and any heating

32:25 ↗ or other mechanical devices so part of

32:28 ↗ part of this condition is to make sure

32:31 ↗ that the garages can actually fit cars

32:34 ↗ because what we find with some builders

32:36 ↗ is they make the garage exactly the

32:38 ↗ dimension of a parking space and then

32:40 ↗ where's where people going to put their

32:42 ↗ their trash containers or the water

32:45 ↗ heater go and once you put all that

32:46 ↗ stuff in the garage it actually doesn't

32:48 ↗ have too real parking spaces and so what

32:50 ↗ this is trying to say is you need to

32:53 ↗ have two real parking spaces and enough

32:54 ↗ room for the other stuff and so that'll

32:57 ↗ be reviewed with the building permit

32:58 ↗ number G tree replacement calculations

33:02 ↗ to meet the tree retention requirements

33:03 ↗ shall be provided with landscape permit

33:07 ↗ calculations will be included in the

33:08 ↗ landscape plan H site work permit shall

33:12 ↗ comply with current stormwater

33:13 ↗ requirements and then I

33:16 ↗ alternate roadways will be private city

33:19 ↗ doesn't see any public benefit to

33:21 ↗ maintaining these streets because they

33:23 ↗ don't connect other neighborhoods and so

33:25 ↗ therefore they will be private and that

33:29 ↗ that's that's it's kind of my thing so

33:34 ↗ if you guys want to ask me any questions

33:38 ↗ before I sit down I'm happy to answer

33:40 ↗ them otherwise I can let the applicant

33:42 ↗ maybe add a short presentation at this

33:46 ↗ point or you can do public you have many

33:50 ↗ choices in front of you

33:56 ↗ there are j3m thank you

34:01 ↗ did I mention City Council went till 3

34:03 ↗ a.m. last night there we go look at that

34:07 ↗ whoo all right Jay

34:10 ↗ continue phase 2 sidewalk at the

34:13 ↗ southern end of the southern property

34:14 ↗ line and provided pedestrian connection

34:17 ↗ to the existing trail if you look at the

34:19 ↗ site plan right here this is a sidewalk

34:24 ↗ that comes down this row of homes and

34:26 ↗ just ends right here and so what this

34:29 ↗ condition says is this should continue

34:32 ↗ all the way to the south end of the

34:36 ↗ property and there's actually a trail

34:38 ↗ that goes through this open space in

34:42 ↗ between Kelkar E and this neighborhood

34:46 ↗ that's adjacent to it so again

34:48 ↗ no no dead-end sidewalks they should all

34:51 ↗ connect to something k city wet utility

34:56 ↗ easements located locations will be

34:58 ↗ reviewed and approved as part of the

35:00 ↗ final binding site plan so that

35:02 ↗ identifies water sewer storm water

35:04 ↗ building colors will match those of

35:07 ↗ Kelkar e1 colors will be earth tone no

35:10 ↗ brighter colors shall be allowed and M

35:14 ↗ as part of the site work permit the

35:16 ↗ applicant will need to demonstrate how

35:19 ↗ construction of the proposed walls and

35:22 ↗ primarily what we're talking about is

35:26 ↗ the walls along this edge

35:29 ↗ you know this is there's some fairly

35:31 ↗ there's some fairly steep slopes between

35:34 ↗ kind of where these buildings are and

35:36 ↗ this green space and concerns raised by

35:41 ↗ my engineer are how do you build those

35:43 ↗ without completely destroying the open

35:45 ↗ space and so there needs to be some

35:47 ↗ conversations about the actual

35:49 ↗ construction techniques and how that

35:51 ↗ will occur and that I think is all of my

35:56 ↗ comments or conditions at this point all

35:59 ↗ right

36:00 ↗ so mr. chair what would you like to do

36:07 ↗ next provide some time for the applicant

36:09 ↗ okay make any presentation then

36:19 ↗ good evening commission members my name

36:22 ↗ is Dave Macduff I'm with inter-corporate

36:24 ↗ we're the applicant I'm just trying to

36:26 ↗ make sure we understand process here I

36:28 ↗ think our understanding is we'll be

36:30 ↗ actually making a formal presentation at

36:32 ↗ the 20th yes this is just not going to

36:34 ↗ provide a little background yes first

36:35 ↗ one do you appreciate that this is not a

36:37 ↗ formal presentation but a little bit of

36:38 ↗ background in light of what Keith

36:40 ↗ presented so with that I'd like to

36:42 ↗ introduce rich banker from Bayliss he's

36:44 ↗ been our principal architect on this for

36:46 ↗ two-and-a-half years and was also the

36:48 ↗ architect on Kelkar e1 so excuse me

36:51 ↗ thank you thank you Dave that's what I

36:54 ↗ was gonna say my name is rich white Jim

36:57 ↗ with bayless architects 100 801 Main

36:59 ↗ Street

37:00 ↗ Bellevue 9800 4 thank you actually I've

37:07 ↗ been on this projects in 1997 and I

37:10 ↗ recognized one face up there and but we

37:13 ↗ really appreciate the diligence that

37:15 ↗ staff has has worked with us so much

37:18 ↗ over these last a couple years I guess

37:20 ↗ it's been tonight I want you to know

37:23 ↗ that we are ready to answer questions if

37:25 ↗ you have any we've got our civil soils

37:29 ↗ critical areas legal and landscape

37:32 ↗ architect's here if you have anything

37:35 ↗ like that and and we will also be

37:36 ↗ returning on the 20th if you have any

37:38 ↗ additional questions like

37:39 ↗ go through their company names what that

37:41 ↗ would sound like we're advertising and

37:43 ↗ it doesn't seem quite right tonight but

37:45 ↗ they're all highly qualified massive

37:47 ↗ experience in this community in each one

37:49 ↗ of these disciplines I want to really

37:53 ↗ thank staff for their efforts in working

37:55 ↗ with us a lot of the ideas that have

37:56 ↗ emerged that you've have come forward

37:58 ↗ today actually started with our

38:00 ↗ discussions with staff about how can we

38:02 ↗ move forward with this minor amendment

38:04 ↗ and I think they've been incredibly

38:07 ↗ diligent and very helpful the only thing

38:11 ↗ I really wanted to make sure it was

38:12 ↗ understood was how much less this

38:16 ↗ project is the currently approved

38:20 ↗ project which is for six more stack flat

38:23 ↗ condominiums is much greater buildings

38:26 ↗ much more density much greater parking

38:31 ↗ even the disturbance area that we're now

38:34 ↗ working with is well within the bounds

38:37 ↗ of the originally approved and still

38:39 ↗ valid disturbance area some of the areas

38:41 ↗ we've pulled back on for this map here

38:48 ↗ some walls see thinking fair amounts

38:53 ↗ here yeah it's down on the both days

38:54 ↗ this area right along here in the

38:58 ↗ original you'll notice when you get your

39:00 ↗ packet there was doing there was a whole

39:02 ↗ lot of landscaping going on and

39:03 ↗ regrading in this area here we're not

39:06 ↗ doing that anymore the other thing there

39:09 ↗ was it was an immense amount of rework

39:10 ↗ of this Weiland we're now able to stay

39:14 ↗ out of that in total so we're not

39:15 ↗ impacting that yes enhancements the

39:22 ↗ walls that have gotten some attention

39:24 ↗ there's one here and there's one back

39:27 ↗ here now whereas before when you get

39:28 ↗ your packet you'll see that there were

39:30 ↗ 20-foot walls in many many places 20

39:32 ↗ foot high walls we only have two places

39:36 ↗ now for which the geotech has worked

39:39 ↗ incredibly many many exercises in

39:43 ↗ working through those questions and also

39:46 ↗ their work was done it had a peer review

39:49 ↗ through the city twice so I think we've

39:53 ↗ really tried to be diligent and make

39:54 ↗ sure we did our homework less units less

39:58 ↗ traffic less disturbance area we look

40:02 ↗ forward to your discussion thank you

40:04 ↗ thank you

40:07 ↗ okay at this time I would like to open

40:10 ↗ the floor for the public to provide some

40:12 ↗ questions or input if you do choose to

40:15 ↗ make comment we'd appreciate if you'd

40:16 ↗ sign in and and when you get up to the

40:20 ↗ microphone some of us are getting a

40:23 ↗ little older and would like you to speak

40:24 ↗ into the microphone and and state your

40:27 ↗ name and your address and then make your

40:29 ↗ comments so whoever would like to go

40:31 ↗ first go first thank you good evening my

40:42 ↗ name is linda spring Minh and I'm a

40:43 ↗ resident of a property right by the

40:46 ↗ current Kelkar e building i Linda Spring

40:51 ↗ Minh and my husband and I own a house

40:53 ↗ that we bought when the foothills

40:54 ↗ development was just built we were the

40:56 ↗ first people that moved into our

40:58 ↗ cul-de-sac there's two coldest accent

41:00 ↗ and the street connecting the two cul de

41:02 ↗ sacs on Sunrise place so we were the

41:05 ↗ first ones to move into our neighborhood

41:06 ↗ and when we bought the house we knew

41:08 ↗ that the Kelkar development was

41:09 ↗ happening we actually went to the

41:11 ↗ developers location looked at the plans

41:13 ↗ with our realtor so we knew what we were

41:16 ↗ buying and we understood the development

41:18 ↗ entirely including all the three phases

41:20 ↗ and so I first of all thank you all of

41:24 ↗ you for serving on this panel I read the

41:26 ↗ hundred fifty page packet today and

41:27 ↗ couldn't believe that you all do this

41:29 ↗ every one of your meetings so thank you

41:31 ↗ for what you do I apologize if I ramble

41:33 ↗ a bit and also if I read my notes I

41:35 ↗ don't want to miss anything here so the

41:39 ↗ first thing I wanted to say is about I

41:41 ↗ want to start with a positive and that

41:44 ↗ is that I think the developers and I

41:47 ↗ agree on one thing that this process

41:49 ↗ takes way too long as I was looking back

41:51 ↗ at all of my correspondence and

41:53 ↗ communication on this project I realized

41:56 ↗ it went back for three years I know

41:58 ↗ they've been doing this since the 90s to

42:00 ↗ when the development were first started

42:02 ↗ but in just this

42:04 ↗ restart of the project I was amazed to

42:07 ↗ see that three years has passed and how

42:09 ↗ slow the process is gone I want to talk

42:12 ↗ about the process for just a minute I

42:13 ↗ think that there's a timeline referenced

42:16 ↗ a couple times in the packet and I think

42:17 ↗ it's missing a critical element the the

42:20 ↗ MSP extension application was actually

42:23 ↗ asked for in March of 14 and I don't

42:26 ↗ think that's referenced in here I think

42:28 ↗ the timeline goes back to the 90s and

42:29 ↗ then starts at 2016 but that extension

42:33 ↗ application and forgive me if I don't

42:35 ↗ really know technically what all of

42:36 ↗ these are but what I understood is that

42:39 ↗ the the master site plan extension

42:42 ↗ application that was done in March of 14

42:45 ↗ was to give a three year extension to

42:48 ↗ the project to allow the project to

42:52 ↗ restart just as a I would like it on the

42:55 ↗ timeline and to note that that extension

42:58 ↗ the three-year extension was done

43:01 ↗ comment was asked for I submit a comment

43:03 ↗ on it and the three years passed or

43:07 ↗ ended at the end of August so I assume

43:09 ↗ there's some wording about it vesting so

43:11 ↗ maybe because this process is ongoing

43:13 ↗ that's still alive but the three-year

43:15 ↗ extension of the master site plan the

43:17 ↗ way I read it has expired

43:19 ↗ correct me if I'm wrong I apologize the

43:22 ↗ other part of the the process I wanted

43:24 ↗ to talk about is the CEPA determination

43:27 ↗ of non significance and I appreciate you

43:31 ↗ allowing comment I know your goal is to

43:34 ↗ have everybody involved in the process

43:36 ↗ and do the right thing for the community

43:37 ↗ and I think to that end you've created

43:40 ↗ some processes that are to encourage

43:44 ↗ input but to put some parameters around

43:47 ↗ it when the determination of non

43:49 ↗ significance was issued it was in

43:51 ↗ December of 2016 and I got to go to my

43:53 ↗ notes to make sure I get this timing

43:55 ↗ right but just so you know I think you

43:58 ↗ are in the spirit of what you're trying

43:59 ↗ to do but I think we need to need to use

44:01 ↗ some common sense to make sure that

44:03 ↗ we're thinking about the time of year so

44:05 ↗ when that happened let's see the I

44:10 ↗ received the letter in the mail I'm one

44:12 ↗ of those within 300 feet of the

44:14 ↗ development so I do get a letter you

44:16 ↗ my neighbor's about three doors down

44:18 ↗ don't I received a letter in the mail on

44:20 ↗ December 21st of 2016 announcing the DNS

44:24 ↗ decision and indicating a 14 day comment

44:26 ↗ period from December 14th one week prior

44:30 ↗ to December 28th of 2016 was open the RO

44:36 ↗ letter was received a week after the

44:38 ↗ two-week comment period started and

44:39 ↗ during Christmas week I sent emails I'm

44:44 ↗ sorry I just want to get my sequencing

44:47 ↗ right on this so I was living for a

44:52 ↗ holiday family vacation the next morning

44:56 ↗ so I hand wrote a note I dropped it in

44:58 ↗ the mail because I couldn't find email

45:00 ↗ addresses of who to send it to I then

45:02 ↗ found email addresses that next day I

45:04 ↗ sent it to two staff members and got

45:07 ↗ bounce backs from both of their emails

45:09 ↗ saying the offices were closed for the

45:11 ↗ holiday surprise and that they'd be back

45:14 ↗ on January 3rd a January 9th

45:15 ↗ respectively so I know nothing is

45:17 ↗ happening at that time then the email I

45:20 ↗ sent and the letter I quickly wrote was

45:22 ↗ you've given us time over the holidays I

45:25 ↗ found out a week after a week into the

45:27 ↗ process and it's the holiday season

45:30 ↗ please give us a three week extension so

45:32 ↗ that we can look at this and respond and

45:34 ↗ I was denied so I think you need to

45:37 ↗ think about that 14 days is great if

45:38 ↗ you're not smack in the middle of the

45:39 ↗ holiday season so please rethink that

45:42 ↗ the next thing I wanted to talk about is

45:48 ↗ throughout throughout the hundred fifty

45:50 ↗ pages there's reference to the current

45:54 ↗ plan and how it relates to the original

45:57 ↗ plan and I find I find the references to

46:03 ↗ that are very valid because indeed it's

46:05 ↗ changed but I think it's irrelevant

46:07 ↗ because who in here wouldn't revisit

46:10 ↗ some decisions we made 20 years ago if

46:12 ↗ you had it to do all over again

46:14 ↗ so just referencing the permit that was

46:17 ↗ issued 19 years ago I don't think is a

46:20 ↗ valid way for this process to happen

46:22 ↗ we've things have changed immensely

46:24 ↗ since then and I

46:26 ↗ the process should reflect that having

46:30 ↗ said that this is beautiful I think this

46:33 ↗ is a beautiful development as it's been

46:37 ↗ presented today I have no idea about

46:39 ↗ environmental or other issues and the

46:42 ↗ way things have changed since 1999 when

46:44 ↗ the first development was done the two

46:47 ↗ things I really wanted to tackle here

46:48 ↗ are one the environmental stability

46:51 ↗ issues

46:53 ↗ I read the CEPA report I don't

46:55 ↗ understand half of what's in it but I

46:57 ↗ know that since this development was

47:00 ↗ approved there have been some

47:02 ↗ significant issues that we've run into

47:03 ↗ in our community and in Washington State

47:06 ↗ we had the Oso landslide

47:08 ↗ we had the talus landslide and even

47:11 ↗ before that and it's mentioned in here

47:12 ↗ part of the foothills development was

47:14 ↗ stopped was cancelled because of a

47:16 ↗ landslide 500 feet from where this is

47:18 ↗ happening so well I read and understood

47:23 ↗ the CEPA report I just frankly don't

47:26 ↗ believe it I think it needs more look so

47:28 ↗ that's my opinion on the environmental I

47:31 ↗ think it I think we need a deeper view

47:33 ↗ of that the latter the fifth thing is

47:36 ↗ traffic

47:37 ↗ I don't think 20 years ago we planned

47:39 ↗ for traffic to be in this situation it

47:42 ↗ is I understand that there's traffic

47:45 ↗ references in here but we have a

47:49 ↗ significant problem at the intersection

47:51 ↗ of Newport Way in Wildwood wild was the

47:53 ↗ street that brings you up to sunrise

47:55 ↗ where this development is I have a

47:57 ↗ correspondence I sound like I write to

47:59 ↗ you guys a lot and I honestly don't in

48:01 ↗ the 17 years I've lived here this I've

48:03 ↗ written like four letters and I've only

48:05 ↗ been to one other city council meeting

48:07 ↗ so I I'm just amazed that all of these

48:09 ↗ things are interrelated that I've been

48:11 ↗ communicating to the city about the

48:15 ↗ traffic it's so bad

48:17 ↗ coming up Newport way to go I don't know

48:20 ↗ the name of the road up Front Street

48:22 ↗ that the traffic is back all the way up

48:25 ↗ to the elementary school most evenings

48:28 ↗ I've taken pictures of it I sent it into

48:30 ↗ the city engineering department I think

48:33 ↗ it is they very politely sent me a

48:35 ↗ letter and said I was wrong when I

48:37 ↗ recommended that maybe they have the

48:38 ↗ right term be

48:39 ↗ right turn only Lane so yes thank you

48:46 ↗ Newport way that backs all the way up to

48:47 ↗ target most nights a week I think you

48:49 ↗ guys are probably all gotten stuck in

48:50 ↗ that traffic too and my my approach was

48:53 ↗ I recognize this is a problem I want to

48:56 ↗ suggest a solution and maybe we can find

49:00 ↗ an answer the letter I got back told me

49:02 ↗ that my solution would not work and it

49:04 ↗ would make it worse but didn't offer

49:05 ↗ another suggestion so I feel like when

49:07 ↗ I'm providing comments we're not getting

49:10 ↗ a option back we're not having a

49:13 ↗ conversation about what else could we do

49:14 ↗ about things so anyhow the the last

49:18 ↗ thing I just wanted to ask and I don't

49:20 ↗ know if it's in this paperwork anywhere

49:22 ↗ but I can probably talk to the

49:23 ↗ developers about it is that I would love

49:25 ↗ to see a project timeline what the build

49:29 ↗ plan is is there a Gantt chart of

49:30 ↗ start-finish dig dirt start you know

49:33 ↗ poundings

49:34 ↗ foundations in so that we can understand

49:36 ↗ if it's going to impact summers and kids

49:38 ↗ out of school and that kind of thing and

49:40 ↗ then the last thing is the there's a

49:43 ↗ reference to the the sunrise place and

49:47 ↗ that it's going to have parking on one

49:50 ↗ side and it's I think it says in the

49:54 ↗ plan that it's a fire zone on the other

49:56 ↗ side but in fact there's nothing posted

49:58 ↗ there's no red markers and during the

50:01 ↗ summer and weekends there's cars parked

50:04 ↗ on both sides of the roads just a little

50:06 ↗ bit further down by the entrance to the

50:08 ↗ trail and only one car can get through

50:10 ↗ when there's cars parked on both side so

50:11 ↗ we need to address that it's parking on

50:14 ↗ one side of the street or not or widen

50:16 ↗ the road thanks for your time I really

50:18 ↗ appreciate it thank you

50:28 ↗ - the mouse the mouse points oh good

50:35 ↗ evening

50:36 ↗ I guess left us crouched down because

50:37 ↗ things not know height I'm Tom McDonald

50:41 ↗ I live at 1:00 2:00 to 7:00 and sunrise

50:43 ↗ space southeast I'm also the president

50:45 ↗ of the foothills Association but so I

50:49 ↗ have a couple items bringing up I'll

50:52 ↗ start with the traffic part traffic is

50:55 ↗ you know the last thing that I looked at

50:57 ↗ was I here somewhere no anyway is really

51:04 ↗ at Wildwood and Newport and what or

51:06 ↗ Wildwood and sunrise but what happens is

51:08 ↗ when you take a while to it back down

51:10 ↗ Newport they will back up to the target

51:12 ↗ parking lot area and part of that is

51:14 ↗ just what's happened over the last

51:16 ↗ couple of years I think when they shut

51:17 ↗ down may Valley Road for a short time

51:19 ↗ for some of the covert and the slide

51:20 ↗ prepare maybe Ollie Road the traffic

51:22 ↗ started coming through his quad now it

51:23 ↗ just continues to come to that but it's

51:25 ↗ horrific and so what happens is people

51:27 ↗ pull on the right-hand lane to go

51:28 ↗ through the intersection to go on to

51:31 ↗ Front Street south and so those to live

51:33 ↗ anywhere on Wildwood going up the hill

51:35 ↗ can't get into Wildwood and so people

51:38 ↗ including me will actually wait for the

51:41 ↗ cars have stopped going the other Lane

51:42 ↗ and cut in front of them to make over

51:43 ↗ left turn on a green light because no

51:45 ↗ one can move anyway so that needs to be

51:47 ↗ looked at how that hold intersections

51:49 ↗ can be worked also on the environmental

51:51 ↗ justice side I don't think any of the

51:53 ↗ neighborhood from the intersection of

51:55 ↗ the Wildwood and Newport have been

51:57 ↗ notified about all the traffic that's

51:59 ↗ going to now be at that intersection

52:00 ↗ they'll be produced by this developer

52:02 ↗ are there developments up the hillside

52:04 ↗ for the record also just want to note

52:06 ↗ that Matt Feldman had written several

52:08 ↗ correspondence letters don't want to

52:09 ↗ make sure that those are noted that

52:11 ↗ those have been turned into the city as

52:14 ↗ well see one comment the signboard that

52:22 ↗ was up there they finally had a date on

52:24 ↗ it and then there was a time and the

52:25 ↗ time was taken off so it just didn't

52:29 ↗ seem like it was accurately publicized

52:32 ↗ that there was a commission meeting

52:33 ↗ tonight until we're kind of got around

52:35 ↗ and in the foothills development I have

52:37 ↗ actually asked that I be put on

52:38 ↗ notification so I can get some note

52:40 ↗ because no one really knew about except

52:42 ↗ the three houses that were then the 300

52:44 ↗ development a 300 proximity area I want

52:50 ↗ to talk about the slides for just a

52:51 ↗ minute so Tom you need to be at the mic

53:00 ↗ because we're actually on TV and okay on

53:03 ↗ TV there's there's a mouse a mouse a

53:05 ↗ mouse on the tray on the tray kind of

53:08 ↗ belt-high got got a little it'll be

53:11 ↗ little point for you okay so the

53:14 ↗ retaining ball actually starts about

53:16 ↗ right here

53:16 ↗ and that's when this area was going to

53:18 ↗ be developed the hole it slid across

53:22 ↗ road to clean it up and put the

53:24 ↗ retaining wall in so it is pretty close

53:26 ↗ proximity to the existing development

53:28 ↗ that's here so they do have monitoring

53:34 ↗ wells all up in that area so that would

53:36 ↗ be something that it's a big concern

53:37 ↗ that that would both hamper the

53:40 ↗ development here and as well as the

53:43 ↗ rotor axis so copy conditions okay the

53:55 ↗ the lane with 28 foot lane width versus

53:57 ↗ 32 foot lane width it's kind of nice to

54:00 ↗ have less payment but the reality of it

54:01 ↗ is that maybe trying to skirt the the

54:06 ↗ actual requirement or need to have a 32

54:08 ↗ foot wide roadway what happens as you go

54:11 ↗ further down the road we all have fire

54:12 ↗ suppression systems in our house because

54:14 ↗ the fire department has an issue of not

54:17 ↗ being able to get down the road because

54:18 ↗ of lane width and with parking on one

54:20 ↗ side of the road so I'm not sure if

54:22 ↗ there is planning to have a fire

54:23 ↗ suppression system in these developments

54:25 ↗ efforts gonna be a 28 foot wide road

54:28 ↗ also you can't really turn around within

54:31 ↗ a 25 foot 28 foot road if there's cars

54:35 ↗ parked on one side so what I presume

54:37 ↗ would happen is that people would just

54:39 ↗ go down turn down first place turn

54:41 ↗ around and first place where there's a

54:43 ↗ widened area where all the kids are

54:44 ↗ playing and then come back up the road

54:46 ↗ so that's an additional concern as far

54:49 ↗ as the width of the road and some of the

54:51 ↗ issues that that will

54:53 ↗ that will create a signal at Newport you

54:59 ↗ know I'm sorry signal at Wildwood

55:00 ↗ and sunrise not die before I'd want a

55:05 ↗ signal there it's just like this not

55:08 ↗ another signal in town so I don't think

55:10 ↗ that the traffic would really warrant a

55:11 ↗ signal there but I'd like to see

55:13 ↗ something else other than a signal

55:15 ↗ especially when you look at the grades

55:16 ↗ coming down Wildwood at that one point

55:18 ↗ where it's you're approaching probably

55:20 ↗ probably 12 to 13 percent as they come

55:23 ↗ down the grade line of sight that is an

55:26 ↗ issue and a concern as far as being out

55:28 ↗ if you have cars parked or landscape

55:29 ↗ being able to pull out of these and

55:31 ↗ being able to see down the hill the part

55:35 ↗ particularly and circumstances we're

55:37 ↗ going to be looking to the left where

55:38 ↗ the road is curving to the left back

55:39 ↗ away retaining wall I think and I'm not

55:43 ↗ sure if I understood this correct that

55:44 ↗ the pertaining wall was gonna be on

55:45 ↗ public property versus the which makes a

55:48 ↗ city maintenance thing versus of a

55:50 ↗ retaining wall being on private property

55:51 ↗ which means it's the developers to

55:53 ↗ retain so as tax payer on what my taxes

55:56 ↗ going for paying for someone else's

55:58 ↗ retaining wall that was done on public

56:00 ↗ right away when has she been done on

56:01 ↗ private right away for the development

56:02 ↗ so I'm not sure if I understood it right

56:04 ↗ it has its own private area okay then

56:07 ↗ next up thank you for that clarification

56:14 ↗ [Music]

56:16 ↗ let's see bike racks I had a question

56:18 ↗ letting my shirt ye have bike racks it

56:20 ↗ would be tying their bike up to a bike

56:22 ↗ rack outside they live in there anyway

56:23 ↗ so I would can't agree that I don't know

56:25 ↗ why you need bike racks it just can be

56:27 ↗ vandalized on the bike racks if I'm not

56:30 ↗ sure if they were just for public

56:32 ↗ parking or not but fire suppression

56:36 ↗ system I talked about that and I hadn't

56:41 ↗ heard about the sidewalk buffer

56:43 ↗ oh so the sidewalk as you come out of

56:46 ↗ the as you noted before when you come on

56:50 ↗ the east side between the two where the

56:52 ↗ sidewalk comes up and then connects to

56:54 ↗ the trail well once it connects to the

56:55 ↗ trail that's actually a gravel trail and

56:57 ↗ there are several was probably 12 steps

56:59 ↗ ago from almost where that point where

57:01 ↗ that connection is we can see how thin

57:03 ↗ line

57:03 ↗ [Music]

57:06 ↗ there's a mouse located right here

57:10 ↗ there's a gravel trail and then there's

57:12 ↗ a series of eight wood and gravel steps

57:15 ↗ that come up this point here so this

57:17 ↗ really wouldn't be a DA accessible for

57:20 ↗ coming up and I don't know if we'd want

57:22 ↗ to have a private development connecting

57:24 ↗ to a public trail on the side like that

57:26 ↗ versus coming up and connecting to the

57:28 ↗ sidewalk the garage reduction I'm not

57:37 ↗ sure I understood why the garage

57:38 ↗ reduction of going from eight feet if

57:40 ↗ that reduces the actual width of the

57:42 ↗ house is that the purpose of the garage

57:44 ↗ reduction or is it take you more houses

57:47 ↗ in or is it just okay I think you get

57:58 ↗ that some connection and and then one

58:02 ↗ other comment was if all the federal ATA

58:05 ↗ requirements are are met with the

58:06 ↗ development in this and that's all I

58:15 ↗ have unless anybody else has any other

58:17 ↗ questions so thank you very much thank

58:20 ↗ you other commenters please sign in

58:31 ↗ sorry can I come back for one more

58:33 ↗ comment or am i looks like it

58:35 ↗ [Laughter]

58:38 ↗ the power grid I'm going to show how the

58:40 ↗ power is going to be brought up the

58:42 ↗ street but currently in and sunrise we

58:44 ↗ have lights dim when there's a heavy

58:46 ↗ power draw everything from air

58:48 ↗ conditioners turn on some of the unit's

58:50 ↗ lights will dim and the power for the

58:54 ↗ air conditioner for example the

58:55 ↗ next-door neighbor the power air

58:57 ↗ conditioning goes on the lights dim in

58:58 ↗ the house until the unit is back up so

59:01 ↗ I'm not sure if that's tied to the

59:02 ↗ remainder of the power grid that's along

59:04 ↗ the street here or not so that'd be

59:07 ↗ something I would question as well so

59:09 ↗ thank you

59:26 ↗ hi um yeah I want to thank everybody -

59:30 ↗ for the work that you do I have a

59:32 ↗ daughter who is a fully licensed

59:34 ↗ Landscape Architect and she just joined

59:36 ↗ the Planning Commission in the town

59:39 ↗ where she lives in a story Oregon so I'm

59:41 ↗ real excited for her oh I'm sorry my

59:47 ↗ name is my name is Pat Duke

59:50 ↗ I've lived in Issaquah for 31 years I

59:52 ↗ live at 375 southeast crust on Lane in

59:56 ↗ Old Town and I have just some questions

1:00:01 ↗ and you know I'm really familiar with

1:00:04 ↗ Cal Kerry and where it is and all of

1:00:06 ↗ that where it where is this whole site

1:00:09 ↗ and the and the development and of phase

1:00:11 ↗ 2 and phase 3 in relation to that little

1:00:15 ↗ trail that trailhead that's on Sunrise

1:00:18 ↗ place right down the street from Kelkar

1:00:22 ↗ E and then it reverses I guess it goes

1:00:24 ↗ up the hill which I've never done

1:00:26 ↗ and it traverses a hill over to Sycamore

1:00:28 ↗ where is this relative to that how close

1:00:37 ↗ so that that trail that goes up the hill

1:00:40 ↗ and then it goes over it is a it's right

1:00:42 ↗ next to it okay well I do have something

1:00:45 ↗ to say about that I mean I'm a native

1:00:48 ↗ plant Seward and I just I love the

1:00:51 ↗ outdoors and I hadn't been on that trail

1:00:54 ↗ until recently but it's it's amazing and

1:01:01 ↗ it's got creeks that apparently are

1:01:04 ↗ year-round I was there just days ago and

1:01:07 ↗ it's got two creeks on it that are

1:01:10 ↗ running right now so we have an

1:01:13 ↗ extraordinary drought and that means

1:01:14 ↗ we've got some you know creeks that I

1:01:17 ↗ don't know if they're considered salmon

1:01:19 ↗ barren creeks or or not because they

1:01:21 ↗ connect they run down into is quad Creek

1:01:24 ↗ and so I'd like to know I like to know

1:01:27 ↗ more about that it also has some

1:01:31 ↗ extraordinary timber on it and I and I

1:01:33 ↗ know what happens when there's

1:01:35 ↗ construction

1:01:36 ↗ I mean I remember what happened and tell

1:01:38 ↗ us when developers just cut down the

1:01:40 ↗ trees or builders who ever cut them down

1:01:43 ↗ it's like cut them down pay the fine you

1:01:47 ↗ know and I would hate to see that happen

1:01:49 ↗ there's some really extraordinary forest

1:01:51 ↗ in there some of the wildlife habitat

1:01:57 ↗ and and plants and everything that are

1:01:59 ↗ in there you just never never see them

1:02:02 ↗ in in that you know like huge banks of

1:02:06 ↗ maiden hair ferns that are just

1:02:09 ↗ absolutely gorgeous so one of the things

1:02:11 ↗ I wanted to do tonight is I'm retired

1:02:14 ↗ and and it's a short hike it's only it's

1:02:18 ↗ only a mile takes a little bit longer

1:02:20 ↗ you had to kind of wind down through

1:02:22 ↗ sycamore to get back but I would love to

1:02:24 ↗ take anyone on the Planning Commission

1:02:27 ↗ who would like to go on that little hike

1:02:30 ↗ it's very very pretty it's a wonderful

1:02:33 ↗ not with this error but it's a wonderful

1:02:35 ↗ place to be on a warm day

1:02:37 ↗ you know it's nice and cool and I just

1:02:40 ↗ like some of the people who are making

1:02:42 ↗ these decisions to see what that looks

1:02:44 ↗ like to make sure that if they're going

1:02:47 ↗ to do some development they don't

1:02:49 ↗ disturb that area I also just want to

1:02:52 ↗ make a comment in general about pervious

1:02:57 ↗ surfaces and that is we've all been

1:03:00 ↗ hearing again and again and again with

1:03:02 ↗ the flooding that was in Houston how one

1:03:06 ↗ of the really big factors in that and I

1:03:09 ↗ had coffee this morning with someone in

1:03:12 ↗ the reinsurance industry as a bunch of

1:03:15 ↗ actuaries working for them and things

1:03:18 ↗ like this are really important when

1:03:19 ↗ they're doing risk assessment and when

1:03:23 ↗ you take areas like that that basically

1:03:26 ↗ you can't flood them there so for us

1:03:30 ↗ said that have so much cushioning it's

1:03:33 ↗ like a huge sponge that it really does a

1:03:37 ↗ lot to mitigate flooding and I want to

1:03:40 ↗ make sure that we don't do something

1:03:42 ↗ really really foolish to damage

1:03:45 ↗ that kind of restorative area that we

1:03:48 ↗ have in our city also so my name is Pat

1:03:53 ↗ Duke I'm going to put my email address

1:03:56 ↗ and my phone number on this and and I

1:03:59 ↗ would just be delighted to take to take

1:04:01 ↗ any one you could do this on your lunch

1:04:03 ↗ if you're if you're in the area okay

1:04:06 ↗ thank you okay other comments well we

1:04:21 ↗ appreciate those comments we will close

1:04:24 ↗ the public hearing portion of this

1:04:26 ↗ meeting now and commissioners I'll open

1:04:28 ↗ it up for comments from you guys and

1:04:31 ↗ gals questions

1:04:41 ↗ well I'll go I'll jump in I guess a

1:04:44 ↗ quick question then Heath about the

1:04:47 ↗ potential expiration of the MSP

1:04:50 ↗ extension or so so what I'll do is I'll

1:04:58 ↗ give you the short answer and then as

1:05:01 ↗ usual we will provide a response memo to

1:05:05 ↗ all the questions and comments that came

1:05:07 ↗ up this evening

1:05:09 ↗ so the condition about extension of the

1:05:13 ↗ original approvals there was a

1:05:18 ↗ application made by the current

1:05:20 ↗ applicant that came in while the

1:05:24 ↗ application was still within that time

1:05:27 ↗ frame and you know right now miss

1:05:31 ↗ Brinkman was correct we are beyond that

1:05:33 ↗ so if ultimately these guys decide to

1:05:36 ↗ walk away from this project the original

1:05:42 ↗ kind of decisions have kind of run their

1:05:45 ↗ term so we are in this kind of moment

1:05:49 ↗ where you've got this proposal that's in

1:05:52 ↗ front of us and and whether or not they

1:05:54 ↗ are going to seek it all the way through

1:05:56 ↗ to permits and construction we don't

1:05:59 ↗ know the answer to that today obviously

1:06:00 ↗ it might depend on how this process goes

1:06:03 ↗ and what conditions come out of it

1:06:05 ↗ but if ultimately they did decide to

1:06:07 ↗ walk away from this and this permit was

1:06:10 ↗ deemed inactive and done it would put

1:06:15 ↗ that original SDP and master site plan

1:06:20 ↗ at an expiration point that would be my

1:06:26 ↗ non legal answer yeah hopefully it it's

1:06:29 ↗ semi dives with our city attorney but

1:06:31 ↗ that would be my take here can I ask

1:06:33 ↗ insulin please follow four related

1:06:35 ↗ questions so regarding vesting there

1:06:37 ↗ were several mentions in the staff

1:06:40 ↗ report about application of regulations

1:06:44 ↗ specifically around critical areas

1:06:45 ↗ quickly our buffer

1:06:46 ↗ etc is this application continue does it

1:06:52 ↗ continue to stay vested under the

1:06:53 ↗ regulations at the time of application

1:06:55 ↗ or are we applying different the current

1:06:58 ↗ regulations in some instances against

1:07:00 ↗ this particular proposal it's it's going

1:07:04 ↗ to be it's going to be some above so so

1:07:07 ↗ we tried to there were certain decisions

1:07:12 ↗ made back in 99 that if you were to

1:07:15 ↗ apply current regulations it would

1:07:19 ↗ basically maybe make any project in this

1:07:22 ↗ location really hard to do and so so we

1:07:26 ↗ had to use some judgment in terms of

1:07:28 ↗ which standards were vested and which

1:07:32 ↗ ones could be brought to current so for

1:07:35 ↗ example the tree retention was not

1:07:37 ↗ originally applied to this permit but

1:07:41 ↗ you know there's really no reason why

1:07:45 ↗ you know phase 2 has has already been

1:07:48 ↗ graded so it's not quite an issue for

1:07:51 ↗ phase 2 but phase 3 as you saw from the

1:07:53 ↗ photographs is currently forested and

1:07:55 ↗ you know I think there's no reason why

1:07:58 ↗ we shouldn't expect that phase 3 should

1:08:01 ↗ apply so the tree retention requirement

1:08:04 ↗ should apply to phase 3 so so I don't

1:08:06 ↗ want to say we we kind of hand-picked

1:08:09 ↗ some of those but we try to use some

1:08:12 ↗ discretion to say what makes sense what

1:08:14 ↗ can we actually put in terms of new

1:08:17 ↗ standards now some of its procedural so

1:08:21 ↗ for example right now the city has a

1:08:26 ↗ number of geotechnical engineers under

1:08:29 ↗ contract we use Golder and Shannon and

1:08:32 ↗ Wilson and AMEC and so when this

1:08:35 ↗ application came in which is different

1:08:39 ↗ than the processes and procedures we had

1:08:41 ↗ in place in 99 we had our geo tech

1:08:44 ↗ engineers review their geotechnical

1:08:47 ↗ plans because this is a piece of

1:08:50 ↗ property because of as was mentioned

1:08:52 ↗ earlier the proximity to the foothills

1:08:54 ↗ and we know that there was a slight

1:08:55 ↗ action there and a number

1:08:58 ↗ of the slopes that were created on Cal

1:09:01 ↗ khari were kind of spoils from previous

1:09:06 ↗ grading activities like I can't think

1:09:09 ↗ from the 60s I'm I don't know the

1:09:11 ↗ history of that exactly but it like it's

1:09:14 ↗ from a long time ago and so so from a

1:09:18 ↗ geologic perspective it's it's not one

1:09:20 ↗ of those sites that you say oh yeah that

1:09:22 ↗ looks fine

1:09:23 ↗ it actually looks different than fine so

1:09:26 ↗ so there was reason for us to provide an

1:09:28 ↗ extra level of care when it came to

1:09:30 ↗ looking at the geology of this thank you

1:09:37 ↗ question the the lane width discussion

1:09:41 ↗ let's see on page 63 of 150 that that's

1:09:46 ↗ where the deviation request occurs to

1:09:49 ↗ reduce to 10-foot lanes but was that

1:09:52 ↗ what you were referring to earlier Keith

1:09:54 ↗ gets it yes it was okay and also on page

1:09:59 ↗ 34 there's a request to increase the

1:10:03 ↗ access way for phase 3 from 24 to 26

1:10:07 ↗ feet out of those two relate I don't

1:10:11 ↗ quite understand the relationships there

1:10:14 ↗ did you say 34 Richard right 34 of 150

1:10:20 ↗ the power go to there sorry

1:10:48 ↗ say that page number again now giving us

1:10:50 ↗ 34 of 151 34 and I'm like there aren't

1:10:56 ↗ that many No

1:10:57 ↗ all right sorry did I mention I was here

1:10:59 ↗ till 3 o'clock all right

1:11:02 ↗ [Music]

1:11:05 ↗ down under background toward the bottom

1:11:12 ↗ so that's 34 of 94 yeah that we have

1:11:16 ↗ different documents yeah so use a

1:11:19 ↗ document in at 94 dead thank you

1:11:30 ↗ okay all right right that background

1:11:36 ↗ paragraph right there you guys see that

1:11:41 ↗ yeah yeah that style my pet project

1:11:44 ↗ includes my remember too much site plan

1:11:46 ↗ if I to decrease total my resident units

1:11:51 ↗ decrease building height your building

1:11:58 ↗ character minor changes to impervious

1:12:01 ↗ surface no changing attacks that's

1:12:04 ↗ increasing face we access place that can

1:12:06 ↗ do it right there I would say I don't

1:12:16 ↗ believe I don't believe that to be

1:12:18 ↗ accurate I believe that so if we're

1:12:23 ↗ talking about this roadway right here

1:12:26 ↗ and I think you know if you look at the

1:12:28 ↗ plans sections and I can go to the plan

1:12:32 ↗ sheets if we need to do that I'm gonna

1:12:34 ↗ tell you I think that's 20 feet clear

1:12:40 ↗ okay we have a we have the applicants

1:12:44 ↗ civil engineer looking at their plants

1:12:46 ↗ so hopefully I'll have an answer for you

1:12:49 ↗ in a second I think we're talking about

1:12:52 ↗ this yeah so so most of the interior

1:12:57 ↗ roadways are 20 feet which is what is

1:13:02 ↗ the minimum required for fire for

1:13:04 ↗ complete access so I'm not just I think

1:13:09 ↗ yeah please rich yeah I think that this

1:13:14 ↗ particular area is referencing what we

1:13:18 ↗ would often call a curb cut into Phase

1:13:20 ↗ three so it's off of sunset going into

1:13:22 ↗ Phase three and it's actually existing

1:13:28 ↗ Jim we're not changing that drive at all

1:13:30 ↗ where we you know that yeah and I

1:13:33 ↗ actually think that one is 26 but Jim

1:13:35 ↗ can confirm that as we proceed

1:13:39 ↗ that's exactly sunrise okay and that

1:13:43 ↗ allows herself around the curve and then

1:13:45 ↗ it drops to 20 feet okay thank you

1:13:53 ↗ sure do you mind if I jump in on that

1:13:56 ↗ since we're on that section and number

1:13:58 ↗ four allow increase in the impervious

1:14:01 ↗ from four four seven two four five five

1:14:03 ↗ and the CEPA says impervious is

1:14:07 ↗ unchanged at four four seven and I think

1:14:10 ↗ the amendment requirement is you can

1:14:12 ↗ have no increase in impervious was that

1:14:15 ↗ item number for incorrect or very with

1:14:29 ↗ so let me let me reconcile that piece

1:14:32 ↗ I'll look at the CEPA decision and if we

1:14:37 ↗ have a disconnect we'll provide a

1:14:39 ↗ clarification on that and do I

1:14:40 ↗ understand it correctly to then on the

1:14:42 ↗ amendment process one of the

1:14:45 ↗ requirements was you cannot have an

1:14:46 ↗ increase in impervious so any of the

1:14:49 ↗ changes that would be made

1:14:50 ↗ adding sidewalk along the west side to

1:14:54 ↗ get to sunrise all of that would in the

1:14:57 ↗ end we'd have to have no more than four

1:14:59 ↗ four seven of impervious so the

1:15:01 ↗ impervious would need to balance out

1:15:02 ↗ okay

1:15:04 ↗ thank you suture it's a question Kevin

1:15:12 ↗ you know I guess we talked about quite a

1:15:14 ↗ bit about the extreme extension and

1:15:16 ↗ stuff like that so I'm not going to

1:15:18 ↗ dwell on that but I think the traffic

1:15:20 ↗ issue that's everybody's concern about

1:15:22 ↗ that are we using 20 years traffic data

1:15:26 ↗ in this project are we doing an

1:15:30 ↗ amendment to that traffic because you

1:15:32 ↗ know we talk about every every project

1:15:35 ↗ this disease you always comes up traffic

1:15:38 ↗ yeah and school bus and fire lane yeah

1:15:41 ↗ and

1:15:42 ↗ and when you were doing your

1:15:44 ↗ presentation you talked about the fire

1:15:45 ↗ department approved it I'm not sure what

1:15:49 ↗ they approve of what they saw because

1:15:50 ↗ you mean the fire engine comes in and

1:15:53 ↗ it's it's a dead-end street there and

1:15:56 ↗ there's no way that they can turn around

1:15:58 ↗ I'm talking about the West Side

1:16:00 ↗ I think that's phase two yeah it's a

1:16:03 ↗ phase

1:16:03 ↗ so phase two is this one I know the

1:16:06 ↗ other one phase three yeah is that phase

1:16:08 ↗ three

1:16:09 ↗ yes phase three is on the side okay so

1:16:11 ↗ I'm not sure what they saw what they

1:16:14 ↗ approve but to me you know they were to

1:16:17 ↗ approve it I would like to think that

1:16:19 ↗ they probably wanted to think about how

1:16:21 ↗ they want to turn their engine around to

1:16:23 ↗ get back out right same thing with the

1:16:26 ↗ school bus but I think primarily it's

1:16:29 ↗ it's the traffic issue the whole city's

1:16:32 ↗ all everybody's old excited about

1:16:36 ↗ traffic adding more units and creating

1:16:39 ↗ more traffic and I can see the traffic

1:16:41 ↗ that the neighbors are bringing up and

1:16:45 ↗ how are we addressing to that sure so so

1:16:50 ↗ both those issues you will definitely

1:16:53 ↗ provide a more detailed response in our

1:16:55 ↗ response memo but what I would say is

1:16:58 ↗ and this gets back to miss spring moons

1:17:03 ↗ comment earlier about vesting as long as

1:17:06 ↗ this permit was retained as an active

1:17:11 ↗ permit it was vested to traffic for a

1:17:15 ↗ hundred and twenty six condominiums okay

1:17:17 ↗ so that was put in the city's traffic

1:17:19 ↗ model it was it's in there what's being

1:17:23 ↗ actually proposed today is 72 and not

1:17:26 ↗ 126 so there's actually a reduction in

1:17:29 ↗ units which is actually a reduction in

1:17:32 ↗ actual trips even though those trips

1:17:34 ↗ aren't out on the network today so the

1:17:37 ↗ backups that we heard about on Newport

1:17:39 ↗ are real and these cars will add to that

1:17:44 ↗ but from a concurrency standpoint these

1:17:50 ↗ these 72 townhouses are already in the

1:17:54 ↗ city's model

1:17:55 ↗ because they're part of a permit that is

1:18:00 ↗ currently in existence and so so that's

1:18:06 ↗ the that's kind of the traffic and

1:18:08 ↗ currency piece from a fire department

1:18:11 ↗ and Fire Department turnaround

1:18:13 ↗ perspective these ends have to meet the

1:18:17 ↗ dimensional requirements to turn a

1:18:19 ↗ firetruck and so I assume that when the

1:18:23 ↗ fire marshal reviewed these plans the

1:18:26 ↗ those specs meet their requirements and

1:18:29 ↗ if they don't then they actually don't

1:18:32 ↗ go in far enough do you want to do this

1:18:36 ↗ you can do this so so it so they do

1:18:41 ↗ review these plans and so you know all I

1:18:45 ↗ can say is that met whatever their

1:18:47 ↗ standards are so they haven't seen these

1:18:49 ↗ new plans yet they have oh they have

1:18:52 ↗ yeah they review this plan they have

1:18:54 ↗ proven that they did okay I'm surprised

1:18:58 ↗ but the other thing too is that I

1:19:01 ↗ understand what you just said Kevin but

1:19:04 ↗ the reality of it is that the traffic is

1:19:07 ↗ there everyday and and we haven't you

1:19:11 ↗ know the actual thing is that we haven't

1:19:13 ↗ addressed the new condominium that's

1:19:15 ↗ going in there us we got more projects

1:19:18 ↗ in the pipeline the one across from

1:19:20 ↗ Issaquah elementary school that's

1:19:22 ↗ another big project that's going in so

1:19:25 ↗ that's going to add to the Newport way

1:19:27 ↗ corridor so you know we can talk about

1:19:32 ↗ the module that the engineering

1:19:35 ↗ department did and they looked into it

1:19:39 ↗ it's fine

1:19:39 ↗ but to explain to the neighbors and

1:19:42 ↗ people living that area you know it's

1:19:45 ↗ not fine there's traffic in there in rig

1:19:48 ↗ we got big projects coming up we got

1:19:50 ↗ another one in front of Valley

1:19:53 ↗ that's gonna add through traffic you

1:19:56 ↗ know how do we explain to them that it

1:19:59 ↗ is okay are we expanding the roadway are

1:20:02 ↗ we putting more traffic lights I know

1:20:04 ↗ we're putting a roundabout there

1:20:07 ↗ hopefully will help but I just it's hard

1:20:11 ↗ to explain or let the neighbors

1:20:13 ↗ understand that it's okay

1:20:15 ↗ the traffic will be solved I don't think

1:20:18 ↗ so I didn't say that and but but it's

1:20:24 ↗ hard because Hartford for everybody for

1:20:26 ↗ neighbors to do to think that it's okay

1:20:29 ↗ these are the module says it's okay so

1:20:34 ↗ the model says it meets the city's

1:20:37 ↗ concurrency requirements so the issue

1:20:41 ↗ that the city struggling with overall in

1:20:44 ↗ terms of traffic is regional traffic

1:20:47 ↗ cutting through the city so whether it's

1:20:50 ↗ Newport or SR 900 or 56th or East Lake

1:20:54 ↗ Sammamish or Front Street the issue is

1:20:58 ↗ regional traffic which is going from

1:21:01 ↗ somewhere else through Issaquah to

1:21:03 ↗ somewhere else the rights that this

1:21:07 ↗ property have to develop are based on

1:21:11 ↗ the city's concurrency model and it is

1:21:14 ↗ vested to a certain number of trips for

1:21:17 ↗ 126 condominiums which it will not use

1:21:20 ↗ that many trips it doesn't change the

1:21:22 ↗ fact that newport has backups it doesn't

1:21:25 ↗ change the fact that Front Street has

1:21:27 ↗ backups and sunset as backups the city

1:21:29 ↗ is dealing with that issue and regional

1:21:32 ↗ traffic in a different way we just

1:21:35 ↗ created a transportation advisory board

1:21:38 ↗ and that has not it actually hasn't been

1:21:42 ↗ authorized by the City Council they

1:21:45 ↗ approved a new staff position to staff

1:21:49 ↗ that board and that board will be

1:21:51 ↗ created and commenced next year so it is

1:21:55 ↗ traffic is the number one issue for the

1:21:58 ↗ city to have conversations about and

1:22:01 ↗ look for solutions for I don't think

1:22:03 ↗ that you can fix traffic because the

1:22:06 ↗ more capacity you build in the roads it

1:22:09 ↗ will fill up and so so this is but this

1:22:12 ↗ is kind of the

1:22:16 ↗ the problem that we're dealing with so

1:22:18 ↗ from an overall regional traffic

1:22:20 ↗ perspective thank you and then there

1:22:24 ↗ will be just just to remind people there

1:22:26 ↗ will be a response memo made to the

1:22:27 ↗ comments that were made so that xx

1:22:30 ↗ you'll get a full is full of explanation

1:22:32 ↗ is possible on on what what is gonna

1:22:36 ↗ happen

1:22:36 ↗ how we see dealing with it and let me

1:22:39 ↗ just say one thing just in case we end

1:22:41 ↗ early not that I'm advocating for that

1:22:44 ↗ for all of you who are here tonight even

1:22:46 ↗ if you didn't speak please sign up I

1:22:48 ↗ will make sure that you guys get a copy

1:22:51 ↗ of the response memo so that you can

1:22:54 ↗ actually see how staff responded to the

1:22:56 ↗ questions in advance to the next meeting

1:22:57 ↗ on the 20th so at your at your

1:23:00 ↗ convenience public comment period so go

1:23:06 ↗ over thank you just can you email me so

1:23:20 ↗ mr. chair can I ask a question related

1:23:22 ↗ to roads again and there's some

1:23:25 ↗ modifications that were made in the

1:23:29 ↗ current proposal with respect to the

1:23:32 ↗ road profile I'm talking discussion

1:23:34 ↗ about removal of the median and street

1:23:38 ↗ trees that are included in the media and

1:23:39 ↗ etc and I don't know if this is a

1:23:42 ↗ question for you or if the Keith Court

1:23:46 ↗ this is a question for Richard Wagner

1:23:51 ↗ and is that is the road system within

1:23:54 ↗ the development these three phases of

1:23:56 ↗ the development is it going to be a

1:23:58 ↗ consistent kind of look and feel as at

1:24:00 ↗ the end of this or does this change

1:24:03 ↗ create a different experience and then

1:24:06 ↗ second part of the question if the

1:24:08 ↗ answer that first question is it's going

1:24:10 ↗ to be consistent and in the condition is

1:24:12 ↗ to replace the street trees are placed

1:24:14 ↗ the the street trees that would have

1:24:15 ↗ otherwise been required elsewhere in the

1:24:18 ↗ development what's the thinking about

1:24:19 ↗ how that happens in some sort of a

1:24:22 ↗ design solution that enhances the

1:24:25 ↗ project instead of just randomly plans

1:24:27 ↗ trees on the property let me see if

1:24:30 ↗ there's two two questions in there okay

1:24:32 ↗ the first one about the road profiles

1:24:35 ↗ and whether they're consistent the

1:24:37 ↗ access down Cabin Creek Lane here will

1:24:41 ↗ change in its appearance certainly right

1:24:45 ↗ now it's all graded out and grasped both

1:24:49 ↗ both sides for Phase two when this when

1:24:52 ↗ this gets built out what will be

1:24:55 ↗ different from what was originally

1:24:57 ↗ approved is that part of the question or

1:24:59 ↗ just okay originally approved you'll see

1:25:01 ↗ this in the packet there was parking and

1:25:04 ↗ access along the front here and then the

1:25:06 ↗ building set here and here now what

1:25:10 ↗ we're proposing and those were

1:25:12 ↗ three-story buildings over one level of

1:25:14 ↗ parking we're now proposing that the

1:25:17 ↗ drive down Cabin Creek Lane as well as

1:25:21 ↗ the drive on Sunrise these are what

1:25:23 ↗ we're calling our eight units and they

1:25:25 ↗ will all appear only two stories high

1:25:27 ↗ and they'll have front doors so this

1:25:30 ↗ project now will present itself to

1:25:32 ↗ sunrise and certainly present itself to

1:25:34 ↗ Cabin Creek once you get past these then

1:25:37 ↗ these access drives here the shared

1:25:39 ↗ drives come in here and they serve the

1:25:42 ↗ garages on this side tables also serve

1:25:44 ↗ the front doors these buildings here are

1:25:47 ↗ two stories visible these are because

1:25:51 ↗ the A's are two on the front with the

1:25:53 ↗ garage under there are three stories

1:25:54 ↗ back here so access comes in here and

1:25:57 ↗ this is a hammerhead turnaround for the

1:25:59 ↗ fire department over here same profile

1:26:03 ↗ and what we're looking for here excuse

1:26:06 ↗ me not quite the same

1:26:07 ↗ this has wherever there is a unit access

1:26:10 ↗ on the front of the building that has a

1:26:13 ↗ sidewalk a five foot sidewalk and a 6

1:26:15 ↗ inch curb that occurs over here as well

1:26:20 ↗ these buildings have both garages and

1:26:22 ↗ front doors on this side so there's a

1:26:25 ↗ five-foot sidewalk and a six inch curb

1:26:28 ↗ on this side again garages and front

1:26:31 ↗ doors sidewalks and curbs this also

1:26:38 ↗ the planning department had the idea of

1:26:40 ↗ maybe we put some type of address or

1:26:42 ↗ lighting bollard in front of each one of

1:26:44 ↗ these entries and we're proposing that

1:26:45 ↗ as well so the character through here

1:26:47 ↗ you know if you cut a section through

1:26:49 ↗ here and you'll see that in the app in

1:26:50 ↗ the packet this character on this road

1:26:54 ↗ and the character on this road will be

1:26:56 ↗ very very similar this roads a little

1:26:58 ↗ different it's a little higher than the

1:27:00 ↗ clubhouse here a little bit of a great

1:27:01 ↗ change and it's basically excuse me

1:27:04 ↗ serving these garages okay so I

1:27:08 ↗ appreciate that and the kind of move

1:27:11 ↗ toward more of a residential estrogen

1:27:14 ↗ scale very much along the road so as far

1:27:17 ↗ as the street trees are concerned and I

1:27:19 ↗ don't know how many trees were in the

1:27:21 ↗ original proposal or required but what's

1:27:24 ↗ the plan for I don't know if you've gone

1:27:27 ↗ that far down the landscaping design

1:27:28 ↗ path yet but what's the plan for dealing

1:27:31 ↗ with revegetation what's the owner the

1:27:36 ↗ applicant has authorized a tree survey

1:27:38 ↗ now and that's going to be implemented

1:27:41 ↗ we've got out here the other day and

1:27:43 ↗ stake the boundaries for the disturbance

1:27:45 ↗ area so we know right we're talking

1:27:46 ↗ about the idea here is any there will be

1:27:50 ↗ some trees removed in fact this will

1:27:53 ↗ probably be pretty cleared out and then

1:27:57 ↗ coming back in we're best to plant those

1:27:59 ↗ trees I agree with you you don't want to

1:28:01 ↗ just drop them in wherever the

1:28:02 ↗ landscaper drops them in our landscape

1:28:06 ↗ architect here is Weisman associates

1:28:08 ↗ Nick is here and he'll be here next week

1:28:10 ↗ as well over two weeks and they put a

1:28:13 ↗ lot of effort into making sure there's

1:28:15 ↗ spaces for these not only the trees in

1:28:17 ↗ the tree count but also how they're used

1:28:20 ↗ as an example this area right here and

1:28:22 ↗ this area over here those trees are

1:28:25 ↗ clustered around picnic tables and and

1:28:27 ↗ viewpoints looking out over the wetland

1:28:29 ↗ so they're there we're using the

1:28:31 ↗ landscaping to create outdoor spaces

1:28:37 ↗ can I ask him since we've got it rich at

1:28:40 ↗ the microphone just another question

1:28:43 ↗ there was a number there were a number

1:28:45 ↗ of comments related to trail and

1:28:49 ↗ sidewalk connectivity can you walk us

1:28:51 ↗ through maybe a little more detail how

1:28:54 ↗ this all fits together from a pedestrian

1:28:57 ↗ and trail user standpoint I would be

1:29:00 ↗ happy to do that in fact I would love to

1:29:03 ↗ start the walkthrough with MS Duke as we

1:29:05 ↗ take a tour the this starting with the

1:29:12 ↗ the urban setting these are all

1:29:14 ↗ sidewalks on Sunrise place on both sides

1:29:17 ↗ that are existing the sidewalks will

1:29:21 ↗ continue down through here right now

1:29:23 ↗ there's no sidewalk here and there's a

1:29:25 ↗ broken sidewalk here by my students

1:29:27 ↗ ain't broken it's unimproved because

1:29:29 ↗ this is part of phase 2 but these

1:29:30 ↗ sidewalks will come down both sides then

1:29:33 ↗ we talked about the sidewalks in the

1:29:35 ↗ middle so when we connect to the

1:29:38 ↗ existing trails the existing trail

1:29:40 ↗ starts probably well it starts way down

1:29:42 ↗ here and comes up and it's it's a

1:29:45 ↗ wonderful hike you don't want to take

1:29:47 ↗ this if you're on blood medicine or

1:29:48 ↗ blood pressure medicine it's really

1:29:51 ↗ spectacular this trail here remains

1:29:54 ↗ existing the only change we're doing in

1:29:57 ↗ this trail here and one of the comments

1:30:00 ↗ picked it up was this area right here

1:30:03 ↗ the existing stair that comes up there

1:30:06 ↗ is actually on the private property of

1:30:09 ↗ Phase two we're going to be

1:30:12 ↗ reconstructing that and if you walk it

1:30:14 ↗ you'll realize reconstruction is a good

1:30:16 ↗ idea here because it's pretty beat-up

1:30:18 ↗ and we're going to move that trail just

1:30:20 ↗ to the edge of the project here so it

1:30:22 ↗ will kind of come up this way and

1:30:24 ↗ connect to sunrise sunrise the trail

1:30:27 ↗ continues this way and this is the

1:30:29 ↗ existing trail now the Squawk mountain

1:30:31 ↗ trail we are going to put a interpretive

1:30:34 ↗ center down here because we noticed

1:30:36 ↗ there's actually a wonderful little

1:30:37 ↗ kiosk there there's nothing on it

1:30:39 ↗ so we think an interpretive center would

1:30:41 ↗ make for this walk to be a far more

1:30:43 ↗ educational and it goes up to the hill

1:30:46 ↗ is that helpful yes thank you thank you

1:30:53 ↗ further comments

1:30:56 ↗ I've been other questions since we have

1:30:57 ↗ you up there where to do I don't know if

1:31:00 ↗ you have this right now but the original

1:31:02 ↗ building square footage and the proposed

1:31:05 ↗ building square footage in the original

1:31:08 ↗ number of parking stalls and the

1:31:10 ↗ proposed number of parking stalls yes we

1:31:12 ↗ have all that in the date and I believe

1:31:14 ↗ it's in the in the packet you'll see

1:31:16 ↗ that I don't remember it right yeah I

1:31:17 ↗ don't think I saw square footages and Oh

1:31:23 ↗ might be on that micro print underneath

1:31:27 ↗ maybe if I knew how to zoom in I would

1:31:30 ↗ in the packet there's an exhibit called

1:31:32 ↗ a1 and it's the it's the site

1:31:37 ↗ disturbance in wall exhibit and this

1:31:39 ↗ actually became a driving force in our

1:31:40 ↗ design concepts but at the very top

1:31:43 ↗ you'll notice that there's data the

1:31:45 ↗ total approved gross floor area is three

1:31:49 ↗ hundred and ninety thousand one hundred

1:31:51 ↗ sixty three the total proposed gross

1:31:54 ↗ floor area is two hundred ninety six

1:31:56 ↗ thousand four hundred ninety five

1:31:57 ↗ reduction of about ninety five thousand

1:32:00 ↗ square feet and then learning number of

1:32:05 ↗ parking stalls I don't have that on this

1:32:09 ↗ but I do know that it's in the report

1:32:11 ↗ one of the differences in counting them

1:32:14 ↗ that you'll run that you'll also see is

1:32:17 ↗ the condominium is the flats the the

1:32:20 ↗ existing building phase to the parking a

1:32:22 ↗ lot of the parking is below the building

1:32:25 ↗ and there's a quite a bit of surface

1:32:28 ↗ parking which is also shared by the

1:32:30 ↗ community center and then because we're

1:32:33 ↗ now townhomes our goal is to have

1:32:36 ↗ garages with cars in the garage so when

1:32:39 ↗ we looked at guest parking it was really

1:32:41 ↗ a question of how many guests do we

1:32:43 ↗ think this will have and we worked with

1:32:45 ↗ the city's current code on that okay

1:32:48 ↗ well that'd be one thing I'd like to see

1:32:49 ↗ in the twentieth is what were the

1:32:51 ↗ original you know given what was proven

1:32:54 ↗ and I think it was a hundred in

1:32:56 ↗ don't be benign or in the parking in the

1:33:00 ↗ parking something like that but how many

1:33:02 ↗ actual stalls then and now both under

1:33:05 ↗ building and gas just to be able to see

1:33:07 ↗ that you know we've got townhomes but

1:33:10 ↗ hate to find out we have more parking

1:33:12 ↗ than we had before you will see those in

1:33:14 ↗ the report but we'll come back we'll

1:33:15 ↗ highlight those at our next meeting

1:33:17 ↗ great thank you and I don't know if I

1:33:19 ↗ remember seeing that exhibit in our

1:33:22 ↗ package if it's not I will add it as

1:33:26 ↗ part of the briefing memos there was I

1:33:28 ↗ tried to not make it to over 200 pages

1:33:31 ↗ so there might have been some selected

1:33:33 ↗ Kings not it's always one thing you know

1:33:36 ↗ there's always one so I will make sure

1:33:38 ↗ there can I a couple more just and then

1:33:45 ↗ I'll stop I've got a little more since

1:33:46 ↗ we're picking on rich I want to pick up

1:33:48 ↗ one more time so in that there are these

1:33:51 ↗ are some minor detail questions really

1:33:53 ↗ but in the new conditions the first

1:33:56 ↗ condition a talks about changing

1:33:58 ↗ building model kit modulation from two

1:34:01 ↗ to three feet and I don't know what

1:34:02 ↗ impact that's going to have on the

1:34:04 ↗ building design is that significant or

1:34:06 ↗ is that something you can easily

1:34:07 ↗ integrate we've been wrestling a little

1:34:08 ↗ bit with it most of the wrestle has been

1:34:10 ↗ really how are we measuring it because

1:34:13 ↗ as an example we've got three four foot

1:34:16 ↗ overhangs on some of our parking garages

1:34:18 ↗ in order to make the garage recede into

1:34:20 ↗ the shadow but and we have a whole lot

1:34:24 ↗ of texture when you see the elevations

1:34:26 ↗ you'll see that not just in material and

1:34:30 ↗ color but also in modulation what we've

1:34:33 ↗ not really worked with staff on is in

1:34:35 ↗ this particular reporter they're

1:34:36 ↗ referring to modulation horizontally

1:34:39 ↗ vertically all of the above our goal on

1:34:42 ↗ this is we don't want these buildings to

1:34:44 ↗ be flat they really should look very

1:34:46 ↗ residential and that's why we put a lot

1:34:48 ↗ of effort into all the entries that you

1:34:50 ↗ that you'll see in there too

1:34:52 ↗ most of the entry affect all of the inch

1:34:55 ↗ the unit entries are covered with a with

1:34:58 ↗ a they have a small stoop and a cover

1:35:02 ↗ over it and the cover

1:35:04 ↗ five maybe six feet in some cases proud

1:35:07 ↗ of the building itself so I think you'll

1:35:10 ↗ see we have a lot of modulation in there

1:35:11 ↗ okay so on the 20th that will be

1:35:13 ↗ something that we'll spend a lot of

1:35:15 ↗ certainly taking a look at and thank you

1:35:23 ↗ the other question on condition l looks

1:35:30 ↗ like it's a new one of the new

1:35:32 ↗ conditions it says building colors will

1:35:34 ↗ match those of calc re phase one which

1:35:37 ↗ is pretty strong language

1:35:39 ↗ hopefully you saved a gallery so you can

1:35:43 ↗ match it so I don't know what the plan

1:35:47 ↗ is from a color standpoint and that

1:35:49 ↗ color I am glad you asked actually our

1:35:54 ↗ original proposal our intent on the

1:35:56 ↗ whole project was to match our original

1:35:59 ↗ wording was similar or be inspired by or

1:36:03 ↗ something like that and staff in all its

1:36:06 ↗ wisdom came down said you're gonna match

1:36:09 ↗ so I went out and personally matched

1:36:12 ↗ those colors and since that time we've

1:36:15 ↗ also been able to find the original

1:36:16 ↗ colors from the original approval we

1:36:20 ↗ will match those colors so so just so

1:36:30 ↗ just so sticking up for the city's

1:36:33 ↗ perspective on this it is the beginning

1:36:36 ↗ of a conversation just a clarification

1:36:49 ↗ I've always enjoyed Bailey's

1:36:52 ↗ architecture in thank you very nice yeah

1:36:55 ↗ what a question that I have and we're

1:36:58 ↗ talking about color and matching and

1:37:00 ↗ stuff like that I thought I read

1:37:02 ↗ something it says the theme that you're

1:37:04 ↗ going with is the National Lodge is that

1:37:09 ↗ one of those design themed no it's not

1:37:13 ↗ it's not mirroring the choices were

1:37:16 ↗ having in central is equality

1:37:17 ↗ no this is different so how does that or

1:37:20 ↗ have we approved the design guide so it

1:37:24 ↗ was not option it would not apply to

1:37:26 ↗ this project because it's not in central

1:37:28 ↗ Issaquah so those standards are just for

1:37:31 ↗ central Issaquah okay okay how you enjoy

1:37:36 ↗ your creativity thank you sir

1:37:38 ↗ thank you favorite subject Thank You mr.

1:37:42 ↗ chair for the comments thank you for

1:37:48 ↗ your time this evening thank you

1:37:52 ↗ I guess one this is more of a comment I

1:37:54 ↗ guess or suggestion Keith you on a I've

1:37:58 ↗ got to find your suggestions you had a

1:38:02 ↗ explanation on your requirement for

1:38:14 ↗ actually I'm aside the original

1:38:16 ↗ condition for talking about the 32 feet

1:38:20 ↗ and the 28 feet and the city thinking

1:38:22 ↗ that's okay I thought it would be better

1:38:24 ↗ instead of just saying complete as it

1:38:27 ↗ didn't complete that to actually include

1:38:29 ↗ your explanation of the difference and

1:38:32 ↗ why the city thinks it's okay that way

1:38:34 ↗ okay I can unpack that yeah thank you on

1:38:36 ↗ that that and both item C I think so

1:38:44 ↗ for the comments well there's no use in

1:38:50 ↗ prolonging this I wouldn't I think there

1:38:52 ↗ was one thing that I was concerned about

1:38:54 ↗ and I think would deserve some

1:38:55 ↗ discussion is the is the looking at what

1:39:01 ↗ was approved and the current rules and

1:39:03 ↗ regulations and and some explanation of

1:39:06 ↗ of how that how that was reconciled okay

1:39:10 ↗ and and so just the logic understanding

1:39:12 ↗ logic or the rationality is a bit

1:39:14 ↗ subjective and so it would help being

1:39:15 ↗ able to understand how those decisions

1:39:18 ↗ were made and I would like to thank the

1:39:23 ↗ excellent comments from the public you

1:39:25 ↗ know you did a great job and I really

1:39:26 ↗ appreciate that that's critical to us

1:39:29 ↗ being able to do our job and to get as

1:39:34 ↗ good a development as we possibly can

1:39:36 ↗ that's consistent with the desires of

1:39:37 ↗ the of the community and so thank you

1:39:40 ↗ very much for your attendance and with

1:39:42 ↗ that I think we can adjourn and I would

1:39:47 ↗ like it noted that it's not 12 o'clock

1:39:50 ↗ Thank You mr. chair

1:40:03 ↗ you

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