City Council Mobility & Infrastructure Committee · Tuesday, May 10, 2022 · City Council Digest

2. AGENDA ITEMS

Public Comment

packet pp.5–41

Previously discussed: City Council Regular Meeting · Apr 26, 2022

Open packet at p.5 ↗

Staff report:

The Administration recommends that Council directs staff to finalize a new ten-year Solid Waste Collection contract with Recology for formal Council adoption on June 6, 2022.

2023-32 Solid Waste Collection Contract Gary Schimek, Utilities Engineering Manager ID 1163

60 min · packet pp.43–88

Previously discussed: Transportation Advisory Board · Jul 15, 2021 Transportation Advisory Board · Feb 17, 2022 Environmental Board · Apr 5, 2022

Open packet at p.43 ↗

Staff report:

The Administration recommends the ultimate approval of a resolution adopting the 2023-2028 Transportation Improvement Program (TIP) at the June 20, 2022, Council meeting.

2023-28 Six-Year Transportation Improvement Program John Mortenson, Transportation Engineering Manager ID 1054

30 min

Topics: Transportation

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0:02 ↗ all right thanks

0:04 ↗ welcome everyone i council member joe

0:06 ↗ called the may 10th

0:08 ↗ 2022 city council mobility and

0:10 ↗ infrastructure

0:12 ↗ inaugural committee meeting to order

0:15 ↗ this meeting will be conducted in person

0:17 ↗ and virtually in compliance with the

0:18 ↗ governor's proclamation related to coven

0:21 ↗ 19 emergency and open public meetings

0:24 ↗ there are multiple public comment

0:26 ↗ opportunities at tonight's meeting

0:28 ↗ there is a general public comment

0:30 ↗ opportunity opportunity at the beginning

0:31 ↗ of the meeting or

0:33 ↗ you can make comments after the

0:34 ↗ presentation of each of the subjects

0:37 ↗ and counsel question and answer period

0:39 ↗ on tonight's agenda

0:42 ↗ items uh members of the public may

0:45 ↗ address the council at this time in

0:46 ↗ person or virtually those who are signed

0:49 ↗ up in advance to make comments will be

0:50 ↗ called on first

0:52 ↗ if you're joining us virtually and would

0:54 ↗ like to make comments please raise your

0:56 ↗ virtual hand

0:57 ↗ if you're on the phone press star three

1:00 ↗ if you join by computer or smartphone

1:02 ↗ look for the hand icon this varies by

1:04 ↗ device

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1:08 ↗ participant panel and choose the raise

1:10 ↗ hand icon in the lower right hand corner

1:16 ↗ if you are in the room and did not sign

1:18 ↗ up i'll ask for other speakers before

1:20 ↗ closing this portion of the meeting

1:21 ↗ i'll wait for a moment to see if anyone

1:24 ↗ wishes to raise their hand virtually

1:28 ↗ clerk do you have anyone online that is

1:30 ↗ asked to speak

1:32 ↗ council member joe we have no one

1:34 ↗ attending virtually

1:36 ↗ all right

1:37 ↗ and then has anyone signed up to speak

1:40 ↗ or does anyone have a desire to speak

1:42 ↗ tonight

1:44 ↗ all right

1:46 ↗ we'll recognize uh

1:48 ↗ wendy wyker come on up

1:52 ↗ now citizen comments are important part

1:54 ↗ of this process i'm not going to go

1:55 ↗ through the full uh

1:57 ↗ litany of things but in general please

1:59 ↗ unmute your microphone state your name

2:01 ↗ address and relationship to the city

2:03 ↗ speak clearly and pause frequently limit

2:06 ↗ your comments to five minutes and i will

2:08 ↗ go ahead and open public comments now

2:11 ↗ thank you very much hello council

2:13 ↗ members d michelle hall and joe

2:16 ↗ for the record my name is wendy weicher

2:17 ↗ republic services bellevue

2:20 ↗ 98005.

2:21 ↗ thank you for the opportunity to join

2:22 ↗ your mobility and infrastructure council

2:24 ↗ subcommittee meeting this evening i

2:26 ↗ appreciate your taking the time to dig

2:28 ↗ deeper into the two options you have

2:30 ↗ before you regarding the city's next

2:32 ↗ collections and landfill diversions

2:34 ↗ partner

2:35 ↗ i know by now you've probably reviewed

2:36 ↗ both proposals and read the staff

2:38 ↗ reports as well as my emails and

2:40 ↗ probably more

2:42 ↗ i'm also confident you've likely run

2:43 ↗ some numbers and done some math to

2:45 ↗ compare the two choices you have

2:47 ↗ regarding customer rates in the coming

2:48 ↗ years especially since we now find

2:51 ↗ ourselves in challenging economic times

2:53 ↗ with the highest inflation rates we've

2:55 ↗ seen in over 40 years

2:57 ↗ so given the few minutes i have with you

2:59 ↗ this evening the main points i want to

3:00 ↗ make are these

3:02 ↗ first it's clear from your community

3:04 ↗ survey and citizen input that issaquah

3:06 ↗ residents and recent weather and natural

3:09 ↗ disasters demand we all take bold

3:11 ↗ climate action sooner rather than later

3:14 ↗ second i want you to know that in all ev

3:16 ↗ fleet in issaquah

3:18 ↗ is not a risky endeavor but a real

3:20 ↗ possibility given the advances in truck

3:22 ↗ technology the ability to partner with

3:24 ↗ psc to develop private ev charging

3:27 ↗ infrastructure and the capacity to

3:29 ↗ expand on existing trucking company

3:31 ↗ partnerships like the one we have with

3:33 ↗ peterbilt

3:34 ↗ and finally i want to talk about math

3:37 ↗ given the choice before you the one

3:38 ↗ million dollar difference per year

3:40 ↗ between the two proposals means there's

3:42 ↗ a 12 million dollar delta over the life

3:44 ↗ of the contract that gap gives you the

3:47 ↗ opportunity to work with republic

3:48 ↗ services to focus on ev fleet deployment

3:52 ↗ it also means you probably don't need to

3:53 ↗ make changes to your contract

3:55 ↗ administration fee which means you can

3:57 ↗ preserve those critical funds for other

3:59 ↗ city climate action initiatives social

4:01 ↗ justice programs or much appreciated

4:04 ↗ parks projects

4:05 ↗ so back to climate action republic

4:08 ↗ services has been practicing and

4:09 ↗ delivering sustainability programs for

4:11 ↗ decades we are the only company in the

4:13 ↗ waste industry that is a signatory to

4:15 ↗ the science-based initiative

4:18 ↗ that commits us to reduce scope 1 and 2

4:21 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions 35 percent by

4:24 ↗ 2030.

4:25 ↗ increase recovery and circularity of key

4:27 ↗ materials 40 percent by 2030 and

4:31 ↗ increase beneficial get use of biogas 50

4:34 ↗ percent by 2030.

4:36 ↗ we do that in the almost 2000 local

4:38 ↗ communities we serve in 42 states we

4:40 ↗ operate

4:41 ↗ i can assure you these national goals

4:43 ↗ come to fruition and are measured at the

4:45 ↗ local level in the recycling and

4:46 ↗ landfill diversion work my teammates and

4:48 ↗ i do every day

4:50 ↗ we measure our progress on these goals

4:53 ↗ with our direct recycling education and

4:55 ↗ outreach to our single-family

4:56 ↗ multi-family and commercial customers in

4:59 ↗ a variety of languages and with a

5:01 ↗ variety of tools to maximize diversion

5:03 ↗ and keep the recycling stream as clean

5:05 ↗ as possible we have a local virtual call

5:08 ↗ center with 26 puget sound-based

5:10 ↗ representatives standing by to assist

5:12 ↗ customers with right-sizing their

5:13 ↗ collection carts getting information

5:16 ↗ about reducing contamination in their

5:17 ↗ blue and green bins or providing

5:20 ↗ resources about our neighborhood

5:21 ↗ recycling events and locations the

5:24 ↗ highlight of our work is when we can

5:25 ↗ host groups at our recycling center in

5:27 ↗ south seattle so visitors can see

5:29 ↗ firsthand how our recycling

5:31 ↗ infrastructure works and why it is so

5:33 ↗ important to recycle right

5:35 ↗ at the national level we're doubling

5:37 ↗ down on our commitment to climate action

5:39 ↗ by developing recycling end markets with

5:41 ↗ our coming polymer center in las vegas

5:44 ↗ and building state-of-the-art organics

5:46 ↗ processing facilities in california that

5:48 ↗ run on solar power and create renewable

5:50 ↗ energy or compost at the end of the line

5:54 ↗ now for a brief overview of our public

5:55 ↗ services very real ability to deliver an

5:57 ↗ all-ev fleet in issaquah in the last two

6:00 ↗ weeks my leadership team and i have been

6:02 ↗ looking at calendars and conferring with

6:03 ↗ our colleagues at psc and peterbilt

6:06 ↗ based on our experience with putting a

6:07 ↗ proven reliable fleet in boise these

6:09 ↗ last two years the republic services ev

6:12 ↗ team

6:12 ↗ is confident we can start deploying evs

6:14 ↗ within two years in the city of issaquah

6:17 ↗ it is incumbent on us not the city to

6:19 ↗ figure out the electric charging

6:21 ↗ stations that would come with an ev

6:22 ↗ fleet and we've already got some

6:24 ↗ locations in mind

6:26 ↗ together with you peterbilt and psc we

6:29 ↗ can absolutely deploy an eevee recycling

6:31 ↗ organics and garbage truck fleet not

6:34 ↗ pilots but actual quiet efficient

6:37 ↗ environmentally friendly ev trucks

6:39 ↗ running issaquah routes up and down

6:41 ↗ hills and in all manner of pacific

6:43 ↗ northwest weather

6:44 ↗ so finally let me close with the math

6:47 ↗ our proposal and rate schedule reflects

6:49 ↗ the true cost of service for each

6:51 ↗ mystery material stream and customer

6:53 ↗ segment our multi-family commercial

6:55 ↗ rates were not inflated to subsidize

6:57 ↗ residential ones we knew that rates were

6:59 ↗ going to increase between 50 and 80

7:01 ↗ percent based on current market trends

7:03 ↗ including limited labor and supply chain

7:05 ↗ challenges as well as recent updates to

7:08 ↗ legacy collections contracts we wanted

7:11 ↗ to be competitive with the core

7:12 ↗ essential collections and outreach work

7:14 ↗ we do every day and leave room for the

7:16 ↗ flexibility to make evs a cost-effective

7:19 ↗ option from the start

7:20 ↗ we also factored in issaquah's

7:22 ↗ forecasted growth in the coming decades

7:24 ↗ we did not include a retail store

7:26 ↗ because we saw in your resident survey

7:28 ↗ that this service was only somewhat

7:30 ↗ important to residents ditto expanded

7:32 ↗ recycling for things like styrofoam and

7:34 ↗ cfl bulbs

7:36 ↗ since we saw outreach evs and continued

7:38 ↗ weekly service was very important to

7:40 ↗ your residents we focused on that and

7:42 ↗ built our rates around those key

7:43 ↗ deliverables

7:45 ↗ issaquah is one of my favorite cities

7:47 ↗ and i know my company is positioned to

7:48 ↗ serve you well in the years ahead on

7:50 ↗ behalf of our public services and my

7:52 ↗ puget sound area co-workers thank you

7:55 ↗ for your consideration it would be our

7:56 ↗ honor and privilege to partner with you

7:59 ↗ on the daily essential services we do as

8:01 ↗ well as the critical climate action work

8:02 ↗ we have to do in the years ahead thank

8:05 ↗ you

8:06 ↗ thank you miss weiker

8:08 ↗ anyone else in the room that would like

8:09 ↗ to offer public comments tonight

8:16 ↗ okay seeing that i'll check back in with

8:18 ↗ deputy clerk to see if anyone has logged

8:21 ↗ on and might want to contribute to

8:24 ↗ tonight's proceeding

8:28 ↗ council member joe i see no virtual

8:30 ↗ hands raised at this time

8:33 ↗ very good thank you

8:35 ↗ well

8:35 ↗ we always encourage public comment and

8:39 ↗ you can always email the city council on

8:41 ↗ any of the issues that are before this

8:43 ↗ committee tonight or other issues that

8:44 ↗ might come before the city

8:46 ↗ we do like to receive those emails and

8:49 ↗ they are important comments we consider

8:51 ↗ in our

8:52 ↗ deliberations right we'll move on to the

8:54 ↗ agenda for tonight's meeting

8:56 ↗ and uh the first item is a review of the

8:59 ↗ solid waste contract i understand that

9:02 ↗ uh jeff brown is here

9:04 ↗ and

9:05 ↗ our deputy administrator

9:07 ↗ andrew snyder will also be here to

9:10 ↗ add color and answer comments and also

9:13 ↗ our finance director

9:16 ↗ is also online as i understand it

9:18 ↗ available to answer comments as well so

9:20 ↗ i'll hand it over to you at this point

9:22 ↗ for the presentation

9:28 ↗ okay

9:29 ↗ i'm jeff brown with epicenter services

9:32 ↗ and

9:34 ↗ my

9:35 ↗ uh partner jeannette and i have been

9:36 ↗ working on

9:38 ↗ the

9:39 ↗ this procurement

9:41 ↗ for almost actually not a year but we've

9:43 ↗ been working on it since last uh late

9:45 ↗ last summer

9:46 ↗ we're now at the point where a contract

9:48 ↗ has been brought forward for review

9:51 ↗ we've we had one council meeting and now

9:54 ↗ we're back here to talk about the issues

9:57 ↗ that came up

9:59 ↗ and to talk about getting further

10:02 ↗ direction

10:03 ↗ next slide please

10:07 ↗ how this work and the next slide

10:12 ↗ so the

10:14 ↗ three different

10:15 ↗ options are available here one is to

10:18 ↗ [Music]

10:19 ↗ basically concur with the

10:21 ↗ revised contract that

10:24 ↗ includes all the

10:26 ↗ additions and deletions since the last

10:28 ↗ meeting

10:30 ↗ another option is to direct us to add or

10:33 ↗ delete uh other options that were

10:36 ↗ included in the rfp or even other

10:38 ↗ contract changes and to go back and work

10:40 ↗ on those and come back

10:42 ↗ or to

10:43 ↗ initiate discussions with one of the

10:45 ↗ other two vendors

10:46 ↗ that submitted proposals

10:49 ↗ next slide

10:54 ↗ so the background i think

10:58 ↗ does everybody probably remembers we

11:00 ↗ were back here at a study session on

11:02 ↗ april 26th and there was quite a bit of

11:04 ↗ discussion i think it was almost two

11:05 ↗ hours of discussion

11:07 ↗ and uh we had quite a few uh comments

11:11 ↗ raised and suggestions

11:13 ↗ and

11:14 ↗ we've gone back and prepared the staff

11:16 ↗ report which has a lot more detail than

11:19 ↗ this presentation will i'm not going to

11:20 ↗ go through the entire staff report

11:23 ↗ but

11:25 ↗ we've brought back the information and

11:26 ↗ hopefully address the concerns and

11:28 ↗ questions that were raised

11:31 ↗ next slide

11:33 ↗ one of the issues that's come up is

11:35 ↗ electric vehicles what's reasonable what

11:38 ↗ what we can commit to and how to best

11:41 ↗ implement electric

11:43 ↗ vehicles in issaquah

11:46 ↗ so at this point

11:48 ↗ we have uh the commitments there's

11:50 ↗ already a electric vehicle right now

11:53 ↗ that's being piloted

11:55 ↗ and that's in the current contract

11:57 ↗ there are in the under the new contract

12:00 ↗ all supported vehicles will be electric

12:03 ↗ a new thing that's been committed to is

12:06 ↗ uh for ecology to provide uh two

12:10 ↗ automated side loaders and those are for

12:12 ↗ residential routes

12:14 ↗ primarily

12:15 ↗ by the end of 2025

12:18 ↗ and recall g

12:20 ↗ has basically committed and has the

12:22 ↗ production slot to get that vehicle and

12:24 ↗ i should add as a sidebar here

12:27 ↗ uh a lot of times the um

12:30 ↗ depending on what sort of vehicle you're

12:32 ↗ looking at and whether it's vaporware or

12:34 ↗ whether it's actually a real production

12:36 ↗ item that's coming out the lead time on

12:38 ↗ these is about 16 months and so

12:41 ↗ you'll see in our

12:43 ↗ kind of laying out a schedule there's

12:45 ↗ some overlapping dates in there and part

12:47 ↗ of that is to accommodate both a

12:50 ↗ decision-making process and ordering

12:52 ↗ lead time and wanting to get something

12:54 ↗ on the ground sooner rather than later

12:56 ↗ so uh the commitment at this point that

12:59 ↗ we've written in is two additional

13:01 ↗ electric vehicle uh electric route

13:03 ↗ trucks by the end of 2025 and then what

13:07 ↗ we had planned was

13:09 ↗ to basically

13:11 ↗ have the discussion in 2024

13:13 ↗ because we think the market for electric

13:15 ↗ vehicles is going to mature quite a bit

13:17 ↗ between now and then

13:19 ↗ uh see what the range of vehicles are

13:21 ↗ you know there's a

13:22 ↗ fair number of inter there's a lot of

13:24 ↗ interest in there right now and a lot of

13:26 ↗ experimentation with side loaders um and

13:28 ↗ even rear loaders

13:30 ↗ but the fact is in issaquah there are

13:32 ↗ three different types of trucks that are

13:33 ↗ being run

13:34 ↗ there's

13:35 ↗ the route residential route trucks can

13:37 ↗ be done with side loaders typically

13:40 ↗ uh the commercial stream the dumpsters

13:42 ↗ that are out there for multi-family and

13:44 ↗ for commercial are front loaders and

13:46 ↗ they're the hardest trucks to try to

13:48 ↗ source

13:50 ↗ uh for electric vehicles because they

13:52 ↗ have an intense hydraulic load i mean

13:54 ↗ it's a it's a tough route to be on you

13:56 ↗ might do two to three trips a day to the

13:58 ↗ transfer station it's the worst case for

14:00 ↗ trying to do an electric vehicle um and

14:02 ↗ then there's dropbox trucks roll-off

14:04 ↗ trucks that are hauling the big car

14:06 ↗ sized boxes to the transfer station and

14:08 ↗ back and maybe doing eight round trips a

14:10 ↗ day so they get a lot of mileage not as

14:12 ↗ many starts and stops but they're

14:14 ↗ they're application where you're looking

14:16 ↗ for

14:17 ↗ total distance and mileage

14:19 ↗ so

14:20 ↗ the plan is in 2024 we'll have a much

14:22 ↗ clearer vision

14:24 ↗ what sectors can be collected what

14:25 ↗ streams can be collected what's the

14:27 ↗ optimal

14:29 ↗ optimal vision for ramping this up and i

14:31 ↗ think there's

14:33 ↗ very clear commitment on the part of

14:34 ↗ both city staff and recology to work a

14:37 ↗ path forward that does this as cost

14:39 ↗ effectively and as quickly as possible

14:42 ↗ that is prudent and is not just trying

14:43 ↗ to be on the bleeding edge

14:46 ↗ uh so what we would look for in what's

14:47 ↗ written in the revised language in the

14:49 ↗ contract is to have the discussions in

14:51 ↗ mid 2024 and phase them in in addition

14:54 ↗ to the two trucks that are starting at

14:56 ↗ the end of 2025

14:58 ↗ start bringing things in in the first

15:00 ↗ quarter of 2026

15:02 ↗ which if you look at it is actually

15:03 ↗ another way of looking at this is a

15:05 ↗ ramped up implementation where two

15:07 ↗ trucks go out maybe fourth quarter or

15:09 ↗ 2025

15:11 ↗ more vehicles show up in 2026

15:14 ↗ first quarter 2026 and on

15:16 ↗ so that's when we expect most of the

15:18 ↗ royal it would be and that would allow

15:21 ↗ the city to

15:23 ↗ hopefully avoid the bleeding edge and

15:24 ↗ having service interruptions or

15:27 ↗ or things not working out as planned

15:30 ↗ great

15:30 ↗ mr brown could you comment on

15:33 ↗ the second bullet point all electric

15:36 ↗ support vehicles by start of the new

15:37 ↗ contract will be um on our streets what

15:40 ↗ does that look like are we talking about

15:43 ↗ um just the vehicles that the zero waste

15:45 ↗ people are using is it the delivery

15:47 ↗ trucks for bins what what kind of

15:49 ↗ conversation it's actually a good

15:50 ↗ question uh so it is both it's the uh

15:54 ↗ it's actually having all the staff that

15:56 ↗ are doing

15:57 ↗ um like the associated sustainability

15:59 ↗ programs and the uh customer service

16:01 ↗ would be driving electric vehicles and

16:04 ↗ then also the container delivery trucks

16:06 ↗ uh would be box trucks and so that's

16:08 ↗ going to cover carts primarily and i

16:10 ↗ don't know if there are actually plans

16:11 ↗ to be able to deliver detachable

16:13 ↗ containers on electric chassis or not

16:16 ↗ do you know off the top of your head

16:19 ↗ okay so that's not a commitment straight

16:21 ↗ out of the box okay yeah great thank you

16:24 ↗ for that clarification i see there's a

16:26 ↗ question from uh council member d

16:28 ↗ michelle

16:30 ↗ uh thank you uh on the first bullet

16:32 ↗ point i i thought that i heard that um

16:36 ↗ this pilot that we're doing right now

16:38 ↗ with an electric collection truck that

16:40 ↗ there have been some problems and i was

16:42 ↗ wondering if you could go into depth

16:43 ↗ with that a little bit more

16:45 ↗ uh

16:46 ↗ are are we having trouble on the hills

16:48 ↗ are we you know it's it seems like

16:52 ↗ that is not working out as well as a as

16:54 ↗ it could is there any detail that could

16:56 ↗ be awesome i would have to defer to

16:58 ↗ ecology uh because if you could step up

17:00 ↗ to the microphone please thank you

17:02 ↗ thanks

17:07 ↗ thank you councilmember well to answer

17:09 ↗ your question the current electric the

17:11 ↗ rear loader trucks that we're using

17:12 ↗ right now some of the challenge

17:14 ↗ one that they're not domestically made

17:16 ↗ so a lot of the parts are proprietary

17:18 ↗ and then also the parts that are not

17:20 ↗ proprietary are generally european parts

17:23 ↗ so from a supply chain standpoint that's

17:25 ↗ been a little bit of a challenge and the

17:27 ↗ battery longevity um on two of the

17:29 ↗ trucks that we're running currently in

17:30 ↗ city of seattle

17:32 ↗ we've had to replace the batteries

17:34 ↗ already since receiving these trucks at

17:36 ↗ the end of 2019 and beginning of 2020.

17:38 ↗ the technology is improving

17:40 ↗ significantly on the battery side

17:42 ↗ but that has been a little bit of a

17:43 ↗ challenge

17:44 ↗ with the truck the uh automated side

17:46 ↗ loader will be receiving uh this this

17:48 ↗ summer um this this was a domestic um

17:51 ↗ company um auto car

17:53 ↗ and so um that'll be uh something we'll

17:55 ↗ be sharing in detail with you all in

17:57 ↗ terms of the differences in the supply

17:59 ↗ chain how quickly we can service it

18:02 ↗ and there'll be a lot of learning in our

18:03 ↗ part we'll be able to apply downstream

18:05 ↗ with the trucks

18:07 ↗ and just before you depart could you um

18:09 ↗ just identify yourself when we know you

18:12 ↗ we've seen you many times but just so

18:13 ↗ the

18:14 ↗ note taker when they're reviewing this

18:16 ↗ can make a good record anthony brocado

18:18 ↗ general manager for college in king

18:20 ↗ county great thank you very much

18:22 ↗ thank you

18:26 ↗ okay um

18:29 ↗ then the next next page our next slide

18:33 ↗ um and this um this is inclement weather

18:37 ↗ i think it's the next slide and that

18:45 ↗ ah voila

18:46 ↗ um

18:47 ↗ so there were a number of questions at

18:50 ↗ the last council meeting about this and

18:52 ↗ um we've provided in the staff report

18:55 ↗ both the current co ecology contract

18:58 ↗ language the

19:00 ↗ recall the language in the proposed

19:01 ↗ recology contract and the language and

19:04 ↗ some mamish's contract

19:06 ↗ basically um

19:08 ↗ the new policy is a is a bit more robust

19:11 ↗ it's very similar

19:12 ↗ but basically if uh materials are missed

19:15 ↗ due to snow then double the materials

19:17 ↗ are picked up the following week

19:19 ↗ um and

19:21 ↗ i would like to make just an editorial

19:23 ↗ comment on that

19:25 ↗ um one is this level of standard level

19:27 ↗ service standard that used to be in

19:29 ↗ place would be to try just do bump days

19:32 ↗ where

19:32 ↗ you then run the routes the next day and

19:34 ↗ then you bleed over into saturday and

19:36 ↗ nobody really knew when to put things in

19:37 ↗ and when to put things out but there's

19:39 ↗ also sustainability implications to that

19:41 ↗ you're running trucks uh scatter shot

19:44 ↗ all over the city to try to pick up

19:46 ↗ sections of routes and you know maybe

19:48 ↗ this part of a hill is accessible maybe

19:50 ↗ not then you come back the next day

19:53 ↗ and admittedly not everybody's going to

19:55 ↗ be happy with just setting the materials

19:57 ↗ out the next week but it is actually the

19:58 ↗ most environmentally efficient way to

20:00 ↗ handle materials

20:02 ↗ as opposed to running around

20:04 ↗ trying to just catch up uh and bumping

20:06 ↗ pieces of routes uh one or two days

20:09 ↗ forward

20:10 ↗ um so i actually think it's a good thing

20:12 ↗ uh and then uh community collection

20:15 ↗ sites will be put in place uh if four

20:17 ↗ more consecutive days of non-service

20:19 ↗ happens so people at least have a safety

20:21 ↗ valve for overflow if they don't choose

20:23 ↗ to hold on to the materials and they

20:25 ↗ really need to get rid of something

20:27 ↗ and then um then if it's mixed two if

20:30 ↗ it's missed two days in a row then would

20:33 ↗ go into that system of doing essentially

20:35 ↗ a bump date where you try to you know

20:37 ↗ pick it up but it wouldn't roll over

20:38 ↗ into the weekends

20:40 ↗ um so we're trying to accommodate as

20:43 ↗ much service as we can get

20:45 ↗ and hopefully that addresses

20:47 ↗ the questions that were raised on that

20:50 ↗ okay if i could just

20:52 ↗ step in here i'll just

20:54 ↗ ask

20:54 ↗ deputy administrator

20:56 ↗ snyder if you could take a couple notes

21:00 ↗ one if we do adopt the contract as

21:02 ↗ presented tonight i would like the

21:05 ↗ administration or

21:07 ↗ public works to

21:09 ↗ get together with

21:11 ↗ recology to work on a plan

21:13 ↗ for

21:15 ↗ placement of those

21:17 ↗ dumpsters so that we have an agreement

21:19 ↗ as to the location an agreement as to

21:22 ↗ who will staff those locations

21:24 ↗ and

21:25 ↗ whether they'll be police or other city

21:27 ↗ personnel they'll be involved or whether

21:29 ↗ it will be an endeavor solely handled by

21:32 ↗ recology and it's not directly a

21:34 ↗ contract

21:35 ↗ term so to speak but just something that

21:38 ↗ will help us

21:39 ↗ in the event that we do have a influent

21:41 ↗ weather event

21:44 ↗ all right go ahead thank you

21:48 ↗ so the next uh next slide

21:51 ↗ is um

21:53 ↗ addresses i camp and i was not this was

21:56 ↗ gary's uh he's the one that handled most

21:59 ↗ of this so i have to admit i'm i'm out

22:01 ↗ of my depth but i would like to point

22:03 ↗ out the first comment uh item on here is

22:06 ↗ recology committing to have a full-time

22:07 ↗ waste zero specialist um and that is

22:10 ↗ actually really big because

22:12 ↗ a lot of the existing contracts

22:14 ↗ from different cities particularly on

22:15 ↗ the east side

22:16 ↗ have requirements to do a number of

22:18 ↗ things and staffing usually ramps up and

22:20 ↗ then there's a fluctuation of staff

22:22 ↗ available for any particular city

22:23 ↗ because of course they're servicing

22:24 ↗ multiple cities this is big because this

22:27 ↗ is actually just a staff person that is

22:29 ↗ completely dedicated to issaquah so we

22:31 ↗ would see that as a major support

22:33 ↗ function for the city's activities in

22:35 ↗ the future

22:36 ↗ and a definite step forward

22:39 ↗ we did spend time the second bullet on

22:43 ↗ really trying to figure out the best

22:46 ↗ approach to dealing with contamination

22:48 ↗ and part of that is concerns over

22:51 ↗ when it's appropriate to look in a

22:52 ↗ container or to observe a container

22:54 ↗ being dumped there are some legal issues

22:56 ↗ with that and so there's a little bit of

22:58 ↗ finessing in how to interface with the

23:00 ↗ public how to get how to observe what's

23:02 ↗ happening on the route but still get

23:03 ↗ information back to people in a timely

23:05 ↗ manner provide feedback um so there's

23:08 ↗ there's work on refining that um there's

23:11 ↗ additional targeted outreach to

23:12 ↗ multi-family commercial customers with

23:14 ↗ low diversion

23:15 ↗ and then i think there's a there's a

23:18 ↗ really big interest that's probably been

23:20 ↗ bottled up a bit about um

23:22 ↗ leveraging the use of the storefront and

23:25 ↗ now that we're

23:26 ↗ i shouldn't say post pandemic the end

23:29 ↗ may be in sight

23:30 ↗ or it's an oncoming locomotive one of

23:32 ↗ the two but there's

23:35 ↗ there's a facility there it can be

23:36 ↗ leveraged to do a lot more public

23:38 ↗ education events

23:39 ↗ so that's a that's a positive

23:42 ↗ next slide please

23:44 ↗ and then for customer service um we did

23:47 ↗ have some discussions about the best way

23:49 ↗ to to start to develop a base of metrics

23:52 ↗ and one of the ideas

23:54 ↗ here was to just start doing the

23:55 ↗ periodic in this case it's every other

23:57 ↗ year do a customer satisfaction survey

24:01 ↗ and of course it would identify issues

24:03 ↗ gather customer suggestions

24:05 ↗ and provide a baseline for areas of

24:07 ↗ focus but it also provides a record for

24:09 ↗ trend analysis you know so that you can

24:12 ↗ go back and sort of start comparing over

24:13 ↗ a period of time how they've performed

24:15 ↗ with respect to earlier times and to

24:17 ↗ actually do

24:18 ↗ a real survey and do that as part of the

24:20 ↗ management of the contract

24:25 ↗ and then

24:26 ↗ there as i mentioned there are other

24:29 ↗ that's the end of when i'm going to talk

24:30 ↗ about the specific items there's a bunch

24:32 ↗ of items in the staff report when we get

24:34 ↗ to uh questions we can uh follow up any

24:37 ↗ questions that relate to those items

24:40 ↗ um so at this point as i said before uh

24:43 ↗ in this next slide by the way on options

24:47 ↗ the first is to

24:49 ↗ concur with our our approach and the

24:51 ↗ revisions that we've presented here the

24:53 ↗ second is to negotiate other contract

24:55 ↗ changes and the third is to begin

24:57 ↗ discussions with other proponents

25:00 ↗ next page please

25:03 ↗ uh and the administration recommends

25:04 ↗ that the city complete the development

25:06 ↗ of a new year ten year contract with

25:07 ↗ their college of council approval the

25:09 ↗ next regular business meeting

25:11 ↗ and next page and questions

25:15 ↗ i'll open up for questions from the

25:17 ↗ committee

25:24 ↗ mr brown thanks for the presentation and

25:27 ↗ sticking with us throughout this entire

25:29 ↗ process

25:30 ↗ one of the items that was requested from

25:34 ↗ the council during our

25:37 ↗ committee or during our last meeting

25:39 ↗ discussed in this topic

25:41 ↗ was some information on the qualitative

25:43 ↗ scoring for

25:45 ↗ the contract and

25:47 ↗ the report has a few of those

25:50 ↗ scores in there and i wanted to focus on

25:54 ↗ the customer service

25:56 ↗ score that was

25:57 ↗ that was put out

25:59 ↗ if you recall it and

26:03 ↗ if you could it seemed to me that the

26:05 ↗ scores varied quite widely

26:07 ↗ by the

26:09 ↗ evaluation that the committee came came

26:12 ↗ up with could you comment on why some of

26:14 ↗ those scores might have been high and

26:16 ↗ why some might have been low

26:21 ↗ this is deputy city administrator snyder

26:23 ↗ i think i can speak to that a little bit

26:25 ↗ okay perfect thank you um so i'm looking

26:27 ↗ at the

26:28 ↗ i'm referring to the study session

26:30 ↗ materials um which are linked to from

26:32 ↗ your packet there's a

26:34 ↗ an attachment on scoring results from

26:36 ↗ the last study session on this topic so

26:38 ↗ if you want to follow me and

26:40 ↗ that's where i am so your your question

26:42 ↗ is specifically about the customer

26:44 ↗ service

26:46 ↗ component of the scoring so there was an

26:49 ↗ evaluation component that addressed

26:50 ↗ customer service responsiveness to

26:52 ↗ issues and the call center approach

26:55 ↗ and the evaluation team did a very

26:57 ↗ extensive evaluation of the proposals

27:00 ↗ received they not only read the

27:02 ↗ responses that were provided to them but

27:05 ↗ they also conducted reference interviews

27:07 ↗ and even did

27:10 ↗ interviews of the respondents the

27:12 ↗ vendors responding

27:14 ↗ and in addition to that they

27:16 ↗ also toured facilities

27:18 ↗ and so and taking all of that

27:20 ↗ information together

27:22 ↗ one of the the concerns that they had or

27:25 ↗ at least what recology seemed to do

27:27 ↗ better than the other responding vendors

27:29 ↗ was

27:30 ↗ that they had a well-staffed customer

27:32 ↗ service team and call center they had

27:34 ↗ more representatives

27:36 ↗ than it seemed their competitors did

27:38 ↗ they scored higher when it came to the

27:40 ↗ references on how they responded to

27:42 ↗ customer service complaints

27:45 ↗ and

27:47 ↗ and so that's really where we saw

27:48 ↗ recology excel and um versus the other

27:51 ↗ two vendors you'll see from the scoring

27:53 ↗ sheet that recology scored 37 uh

27:56 ↗ republic services scored 17

27:59 ↗ and waste management scored 32

28:02 ↗ considering all of those factors

28:07 ↗ great thank you other questions

28:13 ↗ councilmember d michelle thank you i was

28:15 ↗ really pleased that we got to see these

28:18 ↗ uh exact scores

28:19 ↗ and uh it did say that there was no

28:23 ↗ for example sustainability innovation

28:25 ↗ equity community outreach and education

28:27 ↗ those weren't broken down into separate

28:30 ↗ scores it was all together

28:32 ↗ so but i was really interested in some

28:34 ↗ of the comments that followed the

28:36 ↗ scoring about their commitment to equity

28:39 ↗ do you can you go into more detail about

28:41 ↗ that

28:46 ↗ um i don't know that i can address

28:47 ↗ equity specifically i know that what we

28:50 ↗ found were

28:51 ↗ strengths in the community outreach and

28:53 ↗ education and the sustainability

28:55 ↗ component

28:56 ↗ but i don't know that i can speak to

28:57 ↗ equity directly uh if council would like

29:00 ↗ to ask ask for ecology to respond they

29:03 ↗ are here and able to do that yes if

29:06 ↗ you're able or would like to comment on

29:08 ↗ the equity issue we would like to hear

29:10 ↗ more information

29:16 ↗ yeah absolutely

29:18 ↗ logan harvey our government relations

29:20 ↗ government community relations manager

29:22 ↗ for our college of kin county pleasure

29:24 ↗ to be with you all

29:25 ↗ i think one of the the big highlights

29:26 ↗ for us from the equity piece is that all

29:28 ↗ of our employees are employee owners uh

29:30 ↗ so 100 of the profits that come back

29:33 ↗ into the company go back to the

29:34 ↗ shareholders which are our employees

29:36 ↗ we're not publicly traded nobody else

29:38 ↗ can buy stock in the company it comes

29:40 ↗ right back to us and so i think that

29:42 ↗ that is a really unique piece we're the

29:44 ↗ really only hauler nationally that that

29:46 ↗ does this

29:47 ↗ um and it's uh it's a unique thing that

29:49 ↗ that really creates a sense of pride in

29:51 ↗ our community um and ensures the council

29:54 ↗ that the the revenue that's generated

29:55 ↗ from your city is going back to people

29:57 ↗ that live in your community and to

29:58 ↗ employee owners we have uh employee

30:01 ↗ owners from a broad swath of different

30:02 ↗ locations when you come to our mur for

30:04 ↗ our materials recovery facility we don't

30:06 ↗ hire any temps everybody is full-time

30:08 ↗ employees they're all employee owners

30:10 ↗ they're all union employees we provide a

30:12 ↗ lot of training opportunities for them

30:13 ↗ to continue to move up the chain

30:15 ↗ we're starting to develop a our own cdl

30:18 ↗ school so that people can start as a

30:20 ↗ sorter and work their way up to being a

30:22 ↗ driver

30:23 ↗ which is a very high paying job so for

30:25 ↗ us the focus is to constantly we we also

30:28 ↗ do a number of dai trainings through

30:31 ↗ ecology

30:32 ↗ harassment trainings all these kinds of

30:34 ↗ things

30:35 ↗ to really make sure we focus on it we're

30:37 ↗ also the first

30:39 ↗ hauler in the region to make martin

30:40 ↗ luther king day a a work day to uh off

30:44 ↗ work day for our employees is something

30:46 ↗ that they asked for and we were happy to

30:47 ↗ do

30:48 ↗ so just in all these ways we kind of

30:50 ↗ make it part of our ethos to make sure

30:52 ↗ that we can

30:53 ↗ work with our employees or our our

30:55 ↗ employee owners we're we're all in this

30:57 ↗ together and we're all part of that same

30:59 ↗ team so yeah thank you

31:01 ↗ thank you mr logan

31:03 ↗ other questions

31:06 ↗ okay the chair has another question i

31:08 ↗ promise it'll probably be my last one

31:12 ↗ we talked about the

31:14 ↗ administrative fee and we were

31:17 ↗ had some options in terms of the overall

31:19 ↗ percentage that we set on that contract

31:22 ↗ the idea is i understand it was to keep

31:24 ↗ the overall revenue the same and we

31:26 ↗ could do that because the rates were

31:28 ↗ going a little bit higher

31:30 ↗ there was some discussion our last

31:31 ↗ meeting as to what that revenue might be

31:34 ↗ used for

31:35 ↗ but um as i understand it that really is

31:38 ↗ a question for

31:40 ↗ the budget and not necessarily a

31:42 ↗ programming thing that we would do as

31:44 ↗ part of this contract can you comment on

31:46 ↗ that deputy administrator

31:49 ↗ thank you so much councilmember joe for

31:50 ↗ the opportunity to address that because

31:51 ↗ i know that was a big point of

31:53 ↗ discussion at our last meeting so yes

31:56 ↗ the proposal that the administration had

31:58 ↗ at the study session was uh to have the

32:01 ↗ administration fee go from nine percent

32:04 ↗ which i believe is what it is in our

32:05 ↗ current contract to six percent um due

32:08 ↗ to the increase in rates it would give

32:10 ↗ us the same amount of dollars real

32:11 ↗ dollars per year

32:13 ↗ for those programs i think that

32:16 ↗ what we heard from council was a desire

32:18 ↗ to really talk about where are those

32:20 ↗ revenues going what projects would that

32:22 ↗ fund

32:23 ↗ are we giving up on revenue that could

32:24 ↗ do some really good work

32:26 ↗ in sustainability or perhaps in human

32:28 ↗ services which are the two categories of

32:30 ↗ spending we use that revenue for now

32:32 ↗ and so um you know it really we learned

32:35 ↗ also since that discussion that we do

32:37 ↗ not need to set the administrative fee

32:40 ↗ with this contract that that is

32:43 ↗ something that we can do

32:45 ↗ in the fall

32:46 ↗ and so

32:47 ↗ it seems like we would want to have that

32:50 ↗ discussion on budget and programming and

32:53 ↗ work plan and how we use our revenues

32:55 ↗ during our budget discussions

32:57 ↗ and that seems like a better time to

32:59 ↗ have conversations about what the

33:01 ↗ sustainability programs might look like

33:02 ↗ how we would pay for them so the

33:04 ↗ administration asks that we postpone

33:06 ↗ this conversation about the

33:08 ↗ administrative fee

33:09 ↗ until we're better prepared to have that

33:11 ↗ conversation until we have more

33:13 ↗ information on what the sustainability

33:15 ↗ program might look like next year how we

33:17 ↗ might pay for that etc and so

33:19 ↗ we would we're asking council to adopt

33:22 ↗ this contract

33:23 ↗ without addressing the administrative

33:25 ↗ fee question because i think we'd be

33:26 ↗ better prepared to do that in the fall

33:29 ↗ when we have those budget discussions

33:32 ↗ thank you very much

33:33 ↗ are there other questions from the

33:35 ↗ committee before i open it back up for

33:36 ↗ public comment

33:39 ↗ okay seeing none

33:41 ↗ we have a tradition of opening up for

33:43 ↗ public comment after presentation and

33:45 ↗ questions from the council so i'll ask

33:47 ↗ if there's anyone online deputy clerk

33:50 ↗ that might want to make public comment

33:52 ↗ on

33:54 ↗ the subject of the solid waste contract

34:00 ↗ council member joe connie marsh is

34:02 ↗ online and would like to make public

34:04 ↗ comment ms marsh i'm now making you a

34:06 ↗ panelist you should see the option to

34:08 ↗ unmute and you may also turn on your

34:10 ↗ video

35:56 ↗ and then go out and hit those hot spots

36:00 ↗ of concern that we have which is like

36:02 ↗ what multi-family housing bear proof

36:05 ↗ garbage cans uh those people who

36:09 ↗ illegally dump

36:11 ↗ or something like that that's more

36:13 ↗ specific than having somebody who what

36:15 ↗ can they just work in the retail store

36:16 ↗ all day long and that would be the

36:18 ↗ dedicated person i don't really

36:20 ↗ understand what the function of that

36:22 ↗ person

36:23 ↗ is and those seem to be some of the hot

36:25 ↗ spots of garbage that we have

36:27 ↗ when you look at our statistics of

36:30 ↗ effective recycling over time they have

36:33 ↗ gone down under this company instead of

36:35 ↗ getting better so to continue on with

36:38 ↗ the company where the statistics of

36:40 ↗ effective recycling has gotten worse

36:44 ↗ um

36:45 ↗ unless you have a drastic change in your

36:48 ↗ contract and you mandate something

36:50 ↗ different you're going to get the same

36:52 ↗ downward trend in

36:54 ↗ in our waste stream so our goal is to

36:58 ↗ reduce our waste stream i think i am not

37:01 ↗ sure that this contract puts us toward

37:04 ↗ that and goal if you are raising the

37:07 ↗ rates what is the support for the people

37:10 ↗ who cannot afford that that may be in

37:12 ↗ our affordable housing units that we

37:15 ↗ already exist so i don't understand what

37:17 ↗ the system is to help out in that

37:19 ↗ situation

37:21 ↗ so um

37:23 ↗ commercial dumpsters in poor condition

37:26 ↗ again

37:27 ↗ are a consistent issue and that they are

37:30 ↗ not covered and the lids don't close and

37:33 ↗ they aren't easily exchanged out it's

37:34 ↗ been a long-term multi-year

37:37 ↗ problem that i don't see addressed in

37:39 ↗ this contract

37:41 ↗ also i love people who pick up my own

37:43 ↗ garbage personally i just don't know

37:46 ↗ that the system is good enough to give

37:48 ↗ them accolades and want to pay them

37:51 ↗ more money so thank you

37:55 ↗ thank you connie marsh appreciate your

37:56 ↗ comments

37:58 ↗ anyone else online that would like to

38:00 ↗ add public comments to our discussion

38:05 ↗ no councilmember joe there are not

38:08 ↗ anyone in the room that would like to

38:10 ↗ add public comments to this topic

38:14 ↗ mr logan go ahead

38:21 ↗ thank you once again logan harvey uh

38:23 ↗ recalled king county i'm our government

38:25 ↗ relations community relations manager

38:27 ↗ make sure we get the name for the record

38:28 ↗ i'm sorry about that i'm often called

38:30 ↗ joe russell so

38:32 ↗ excuse me well yeah i've got three first

38:34 ↗ names i'm logan michael harvey so it's

38:36 ↗ always confusing as substitute teachers

38:38 ↗ always called me harvey and i don't know

38:40 ↗ why it's different but anyway i'll go on

38:41 ↗ with my comments um i wanted to address

38:43 ↗ some of the comments on the video with

38:44 ↗ our waste zero specialist it is not a

38:46 ↗ store employee whatsoever this is

38:48 ↗ somebody who's tasked with specifically

38:49 ↗ going out to multi-family properties and

38:52 ↗ commercial properties as you saw every

38:54 ↗ single year we're going to visit 100 of

38:57 ↗ the recycling bins for multi-family and

38:58 ↗ commercial to check for contamination if

39:01 ↗ there is contamination that will be

39:02 ↗ followed up with monthly visits uh to

39:04 ↗ that until that that situation is solved

39:07 ↗ uh that solving that situation means

39:09 ↗ we're going to meet with the property

39:10 ↗ managers meet with the business owners

39:12 ↗ and work with them to

39:15 ↗ to address the issues so for

39:17 ↗ multi-family that looks like providing

39:18 ↗ door hangers or recycle right bags on

39:21 ↗ every single door

39:22 ↗ we have a slotted lid program that we've

39:24 ↗ piloted in the city of seatac that's

39:26 ↗ reduced contamination and multi-family

39:28 ↗ properties in some cases from 30 40

39:29 ↗ percent down to below five this

39:32 ↗ extremely successful program that we may

39:33 ↗ be able to bring here as well uh with

39:35 ↗ commercial it looks like working with

39:36 ↗ the managers training their employees

39:39 ↗ and getting them correct on on how to

39:41 ↗ recycle

39:42 ↗ as far as diversion um the city is a

39:44 ↗ long way to go in improving its

39:46 ↗ diversion rates the goal of uh 70 by 20

39:49 ↗ 2030 is impressive it's ambitious and

39:52 ↗ it's something that we're excited to

39:53 ↗ partner with you on um we have

39:57 ↗ in our list where we're developing

39:58 ↗ target lists of

40:00 ↗ of businesses and multi-family news that

40:02 ↗ have large volumes of garbage and little

40:04 ↗ to no recycling so we're going to go out

40:07 ↗ talk to these people bring recycling to

40:09 ↗ them educate them on the fact that they

40:11 ↗ could save money through that

40:13 ↗ system because recycling is offered as a

40:15 ↗ free service garbage is expensive if we

40:17 ↗ move the material over then they're

40:19 ↗ going to see a cost saving so we will go

40:21 ↗ in person meet with them and we're

40:24 ↗ hoping to increase that number happy to

40:25 ↗ chat with staff about kind of what

40:27 ↗ deliverables look like on that um so

40:29 ↗ that we can ensure that that that is

40:30 ↗ constantly going but in our contract and

40:33 ↗ our proposal we're going to have monthly

40:34 ↗ reports of staff on how our diversion

40:36 ↗ and contamination program is going and

40:38 ↗ that's something that they can bring to

40:39 ↗ you you can always meet with me and we

40:41 ↗ can bring that up as well the stores are

40:43 ↗ an additional unit of sustainability and

40:45 ↗ opportunity

40:47 ↗ and you know it's interesting to hear

40:48 ↗ that they weren't so high valued in the

40:51 ↗ contract or in the in the survey because

40:53 ↗ when we were here at salmon days every

40:55 ↗ single person came up and asked us when

40:57 ↗ the store was reopening every to a man

41:00 ↗ every single first person came up to

41:02 ↗ said when is the store coming back when

41:03 ↗ is the store coming back their big city

41:05 ↗ was getting calls and asking us when

41:07 ↗ it's coming back so i think it really is

41:08 ↗ a beloved piece of the community

41:10 ↗ and this is a unique place where people

41:12 ↗ can bring batteries they can bring

41:13 ↗ styrofoam they can bring fluorescent

41:15 ↗ light bulbs they can clear out their

41:16 ↗ electronic devices and it's a unique

41:18 ↗ spot that's right here in the city for

41:20 ↗ them to bring their material to it's

41:22 ↗ also a place where we do diversion

41:23 ↗ education people can purchase bulk items

41:26 ↗ like shampoo conditioner dish soap all

41:28 ↗ these kinds of things and try to reduce

41:30 ↗ their waste since how we build that

41:31 ↗ culture of diversion i think the city is

41:33 ↗ really looking for the last thing i'd

41:35 ↗ like to point out is that we've

41:36 ↗ committed specifically in our in our new

41:40 ↗ language to bringing electric trucks

41:42 ↗ here we have two guaranteed debris be

41:44 ↗ here in 2025 no other hauler that's

41:47 ↗ that's proposed has done that level of

41:48 ↗ commitment not a single one um and we're

41:52 ↗ going to have our pilot truck here

41:54 ↗ within the next

41:56 ↗ few months probably before the end of

41:57 ↗ the year before this current contract's

41:59 ↗ out that pilot program is going to give

42:01 ↗ us the opportunity to really know what

42:03 ↗ that truck looks like in the city of

42:04 ↗ issaquah address any problems before it

42:07 ↗ comes to a head and then really prepare

42:08 ↗ for those new evs that we're going to be

42:10 ↗ bringing to you and we're so excited to

42:11 ↗ partner with you on this uh this new

42:14 ↗ project and then in 2024 we can meet

42:16 ↗ discuss and look at uh bringing

42:18 ↗ potentially more if that's what the city

42:20 ↗ and culture want to do together so thank

42:21 ↗ you appreciate your time mr harvey

42:23 ↗ before you

42:25 ↗ step down absolutely do you have any uh

42:27 ↗ comments you'd like to add

42:29 ↗ with respect to the building question

42:31 ↗ that was brought up

42:33 ↗ people like the convenience of being

42:35 ↗ able to do everything electronic these

42:37 ↗ days and i'll give you an opportunity to

42:39 ↗ add some color to that absolutely and i

42:40 ↗ know my general manager can add

42:42 ↗ additional color to this we had a data

42:43 ↗ breach with a third party system

42:45 ↗ and so this resulted in us having to

42:48 ↗ to stop that opportunity for residents

42:50 ↗ for for a period of time we brought that

42:52 ↗ back we communicated directly with

42:53 ↗ residents through billing inserts and

42:55 ↗ online communications to try to make

42:57 ↗ sure that they were aware of how to do

42:59 ↗ it our customer service team has been

43:00 ↗ fielding calls and bringing people back

43:02 ↗ into that automated payment system it

43:04 ↗ was really unfortunate that that

43:05 ↗ happened we worked directly with the

43:07 ↗ city to do it but again that was a

43:08 ↗ third-party breach we're working with

43:10 ↗ wells fargo which is a pretty well

43:12 ↗ respected company in terms of their data

43:15 ↗ privacy there's other places where

43:16 ↗ they're not the best

43:18 ↗ but uh but they're they're quite high

43:19 ↗ quality and so um

43:22 ↗ yeah we're

43:23 ↗ we believe that we've sold it and if

43:24 ↗ there's additional comments and i'd

43:26 ↗ invite anthony to come up as well

43:28 ↗ other questions or thoughts great thank

43:30 ↗ you thank you

43:40 ↗ anthony brocado general manager for

43:42 ↗ college in king county um thank you

43:44 ↗ logan um too much more to add to that we

43:46 ↗ know that um obviously the data which

43:48 ↗ was was unexpected so we worked very

43:50 ↗ quickly working with wells fargo to um

43:52 ↗ to work that out knowing that there's an

43:55 ↗ opportunity to enhance the the

43:56 ↗ technology background and platform and

43:58 ↗ that's something we're working on we

43:59 ↗ don't have more specifics in terms of a

44:01 ↗ timeline

44:03 ↗ but that that is a high priority for us

44:05 ↗ moving forward

44:06 ↗ great thank you i do want to talk a

44:09 ↗ little bit about the

44:10 ↗ low income

44:12 ↗ opportunities for a um a rate

44:15 ↗ reduction

44:17 ↗ and

44:18 ↗ i'll go ahead and say a few things and

44:20 ↗ those out in the audience can correct me

44:21 ↗ if i'm if i'm wrong but in general i

44:25 ↗ understand that that it's a

44:27 ↗ policy and a program that's typically

44:29 ↗ set up by the city for eligibility and

44:32 ↗ then the cities will typically

44:34 ↗ um

44:36 ↗ manage that list of people that are

44:38 ↗ eligible for the price break and then

44:41 ↗ convey that on to

44:43 ↗ the hauler for a adjustment to the rates

44:46 ↗ is that typically how it works mr brown

44:50 ↗ uh i can address that uh

44:53 ↗ so usually what has happened in king

44:55 ↗ county is that cities that manage

44:57 ↗ utility billing systems for water sewer

45:00 ↗ or storm water whatever other function

45:03 ↗ often have

45:05 ↗ low-income uh

45:07 ↗ and or low-income senior discounts that

45:11 ↗ are tied in with the overall billing

45:12 ↗ system so like if there's a 15 discount

45:15 ↗ basically what we do in the contracts is

45:17 ↗ we say you match whatever the city city

45:20 ↗ system is city changes it to 20 percent

45:24 ↗ in a particular year that's exactly what

45:26 ↗ gets transferred over to the hauler

45:29 ↗ in cities that don't

45:31 ↗ have utility billing systems a lot of

45:33 ↗ times

45:34 ↗ the city and the hauler would agree on

45:37 ↗ you know are we going to use like

45:38 ↗ property tax exemption that whole

45:40 ↗ criteria process so some all somebody

45:42 ↗ would need to do

45:44 ↗ is to come to them and say here's my

45:45 ↗ property tax my county property tax

45:47 ↗ exemption so i want a discount and

45:49 ↗ they'll get it

45:51 ↗ what often happens is the contractor

45:54 ↗ hauler contractor

45:55 ↗ doesn't typically want to make their own

45:57 ↗ judgments they want

45:59 ↗ a touchstone that says yeah this is the

46:01 ↗ criteria they meet this criteria okay

46:04 ↗ they get the discount

46:05 ↗ um so that's baked into the contract

46:08 ↗ right now uh

46:09 ↗ addressing the what i heard at the last

46:11 ↗ council meeting if there were a desire

46:15 ↗ to go beyond that and offer additional

46:17 ↗ discounts there's the opportunity to do

46:20 ↗ that through the administrative fee and

46:22 ↗ basically

46:23 ↗ i think at least one city has used the

46:25 ↗ part of the administrative fee to pay

46:27 ↗ down the bills

46:29 ↗ on during a transition i can't actually

46:30 ↗ remember when that was i know i've done

46:32 ↗ it

46:34 ↗ and that would be part of your budget

46:35 ↗ discussion again is there's this new

46:37 ↗ contract coming in do we want to have a

46:40 ↗ an additional

46:41 ↗ discount program for the first year of

46:43 ↗ the program or do you want to rely on

46:44 ↗ people downsizing their containers if

46:46 ↗ they if they want to save money you know

46:48 ↗ what are the implications of that and

46:49 ↗ that can be a budget discussion and then

46:51 ↗ the hauler would implement whatever you

46:53 ↗ tell them to

46:56 ↗ thank you um if memory serves i think

46:58 ↗ that was auburn that used their utility

47:00 ↗ fund to pay down when they changed

47:03 ↗ when they got a new contract but i'd

47:05 ↗ have to look

47:06 ↗ yeah both uh so the um the other wrinkle

47:09 ↗ on here that we had talked about in the

47:11 ↗ last contract cycle in issaquah was

47:14 ↗ actually setting up a solid waste

47:15 ↗ utility so kirkland and auburn

47:18 ↗ and renton all have their own solid

47:20 ↗ waste utilities and so they're in

47:22 ↗ complete control they pay wholesale

47:23 ↗ rates to the hauler they do whatever

47:25 ↗ they want on the front end of the retail

47:27 ↗ side

47:28 ↗ and we did not put that into this

47:30 ↗ current contract for issaquah

47:33 ↗ thank you mr brown

47:35 ↗ okay

47:36 ↗ we're supposed to open up for discussion

47:38 ↗ from

47:39 ↗ the committee for comments and then

47:42 ↗ decide what action we want to take

47:46 ↗ in the future

47:50 ↗ go ahead

47:51 ↗ uh thank you very much uh jeff thank you

47:54 ↗ uh gary i know you're out there watching

47:56 ↗ so thank you very much andrea uh

47:58 ↗ recology wendy thank you connie thank

48:00 ↗ you for writing uh public comment

48:02 ↗ everyone else who's touched this policy

48:03 ↗ uh appreciate you very much um i'm

48:06 ↗ feeling really good with where we're at

48:08 ↗ with the the administration

48:09 ↗ recommendation at this point i think a

48:11 ↗ number of the

48:13 ↗ concerns and uh points of interest were

48:16 ↗ highlighted our points of interest from

48:18 ↗ our last council discussion were

48:19 ↗ highlighted very

48:21 ↗ detailed in a detailed manner in the

48:23 ↗ memo and in the presentation so i

48:24 ↗ appreciate that that's why i didn't have

48:26 ↗ any questions i i

48:28 ↗ genuinely feel very good about where

48:29 ↗ we're at right now um

48:31 ↗ riccology thank you for answering

48:33 ↗ connie's questions about billing and

48:35 ↗ multi-family diversion

48:37 ↗ recycling effectiveness

48:40 ↗ commercial container lids and

48:42 ↗ low income assistance so i just wanted

48:44 ↗ to make sure

48:46 ↗ you know we did address that so i

48:48 ↗ appreciate i appreciate that very much

48:50 ↗ um there are a couple

48:52 ↗ things that come to mind um

48:56 ↗ that make me very comfortable uh with

48:58 ↗ this process and that is well the first

48:59 ↗ one is um not having to transition

49:02 ↗ between haulers is very compelling to me

49:05 ↗ um i think republic services put

49:07 ↗ together a very attractive offer and

49:09 ↗ it's hard to turn down an ev fleet right

49:11 ↗ away i mean we're a very

49:13 ↗ environmentally focused climate focused

49:15 ↗ council

49:17 ↗ but i put i also put a very high premium

49:20 ↗ on staff and their hard work uh in this

49:22 ↗ space and um

49:24 ↗ there would really have to be major

49:25 ↗ concerns

49:26 ↗ or an incredibly compelling offer

49:30 ↗ to meet my threshold of wanting to to

49:32 ↗ change the staff recommendation at that

49:33 ↗ point

49:35 ↗ and

49:35 ↗ that threshold hasn't been met for me

49:37 ↗ quite yet so

49:38 ↗ again feeling good about the approach on

49:41 ↗ inclement weather too i appreciate the

49:43 ↗ expanded approach

49:44 ↗ on that i feel like we've done our due

49:46 ↗ diligence

49:47 ↗ in that space and covered all our bases

49:50 ↗ i like to see that there are new

49:52 ↗ collectibles for the gilman village

49:54 ↗ store which i agree is very

49:56 ↗ as a is a community treasurer i um

49:59 ↗ don't get my shampoo there but i do get

50:02 ↗ my dish soap i that's where i draw the

50:04 ↗ line

50:05 ↗ um

50:06 ↗ uh the new waste zero specialist that

50:09 ↗ would be focused uh um on contamination

50:11 ↗ reduction and diversion here in issaquah

50:13 ↗ solely is also very compelling to me

50:15 ↗ very much in line with our escort

50:16 ↗ climate action plan um and i think

50:19 ↗ something the community should be really

50:21 ↗ proud of um

50:23 ↗ uh i think the updated electric vehicle

50:27 ↗ approach is in line with the council

50:30 ↗ discussion that we had a few weeks ago

50:32 ↗ too in terms of

50:34 ↗ kind of creating a ramp to that but

50:36 ↗ ensuring that the technology and the

50:38 ↗ innovation is at a place where it can

50:39 ↗ support the the unique

50:42 ↗ geography of issaquah as councilmember

50:44 ↗ michelle mentioned with hills

50:45 ↗ you know we're we're a city in the

50:47 ↗ valley and in the hills and that could

50:49 ↗ be difficult so i i appreciate the need

50:51 ↗ to want to make sure the innovation is

50:53 ↗ there and tested in in this kind of city

50:56 ↗ um

50:57 ↗ and uh was there anything else on that i

50:59 ↗ wanted to say

51:02 ↗ uh and that we'll have you know two

51:04 ↗ residential collection trucks um by the

51:06 ↗ end of 2025 and then also coming

51:08 ↗ together between the city and reecology

51:11 ↗ to put together kind of a more

51:13 ↗ thoughtful plan and approach for you

51:15 ↗ know how we want to accomplish that

51:16 ↗ runway that i spoke about

51:19 ↗ other than that

51:21 ↗ it being an employee-owned company is

51:22 ↗ also really compelling to me and um

51:27 ↗ for those reasons i'm feeling

51:29 ↗ very good about where we're at

51:32 ↗ i'd be curious

51:33 ↗ what the other members of the committee

51:34 ↗ think and then maybe after our comments

51:37 ↗ to

51:38 ↗ deputy city administrator

51:40 ↗ you could speak to i know there's been

51:42 ↗ one other committee meeting i haven't

51:44 ↗ watched all of it yet but i know they

51:47 ↗ had a discussion about whether or not

51:49 ↗ the items they talked about i think it

51:51 ↗ was title 18 they were talking about

51:53 ↗ should end up on the consent calendar or

51:55 ↗ on regular business for an upcoming um

51:58 ↗ so maybe you could speak to kind of what

51:59 ↗ their thinking was on that so we can

52:01 ↗ have a discussion about that too but

52:02 ↗ those are my comments about jeff thank

52:04 ↗ you thank you thank you very very much

52:06 ↗ and those are my comments about this

52:08 ↗ agenda bill thanks

52:09 ↗ councilmember to michelle

52:12 ↗ thank you

52:14 ↗ i too i'm really comfortable with the

52:16 ↗ administrative recommendation

52:18 ↗ i thought it was a very good and very

52:20 ↗ thorough process and

52:24 ↗ ecology obviously

52:27 ↗ scored very high on that process

52:31 ↗ i was i wanted to respond to connie

52:34 ↗ marsha's comments i thought she had a

52:36 ↗ really good point

52:37 ↗ about what are we going to do to support

52:39 ↗ low-income residents who may be hurt by

52:43 ↗ higher rates

52:44 ↗ and

52:45 ↗ i do think that using that

52:46 ↗ administrative fee would be a good plan

52:48 ↗ but we will take that up under budget

52:51 ↗ deliberations

52:52 ↗ but i do think that we've got to keep

52:54 ↗ that in mind

52:56 ↗ one thing that we need to remember is

52:58 ↗ any of the

52:59 ↗ contract proposals any of them if we

53:02 ↗ selected them the rates were going to go

53:03 ↗ up under any circumstances

53:06 ↗ so um

53:08 ↗ uh it's something where we i think we

53:10 ↗ need to be very careful about how we

53:12 ↗ message it with the community and then

53:14 ↗ how we support those individuals who

53:17 ↗ will really be hurt by this increase

53:20 ↗ i of course live in a multi-family

53:23 ↗ resident residence i say that over and

53:25 ↗ over again because

53:27 ↗ this is one area where i think uh

53:29 ↗ our experiences differ uh between

53:32 ↗ single-family

53:33 ↗ residents and multi-family in terms of

53:35 ↗ their uh you know garbage collection so

53:38 ↗ um i did take part this last week in one

53:42 ↗ of the online classes that reoccology

53:44 ↗ offers i i thought i'm going to find out

53:46 ↗ what this is about and it was very very

53:48 ↗ good short and sweet which i think is

53:52 ↗ really the way to go it was about 20 25

53:54 ↗ minutes and it was about how to reduce

53:57 ↗ harmful chemicals and

54:00 ↗ you know reduce toxic chemicals in your

54:03 ↗ household

54:04 ↗ followed up by a list of resources and

54:08 ↗ links and you know you could send the

54:10 ↗ links on to friends and family and so

54:12 ↗ forth so

54:13 ↗ i think that um

54:15 ↗ i while i understand miss marsha's

54:19 ↗ idea that

54:20 ↗ we need to send people out that's very

54:22 ↗ true but in multi-family that is

54:24 ↗ difficult it's difficult because you're

54:26 ↗ dealing with a homeowners association

54:29 ↗ and uh you're also dealing at least in

54:31 ↗ in my complex with many people that work

54:34 ↗ all day long schedules are different

54:37 ↗ the pandemic has

54:38 ↗ really made that even more chaotic and

54:42 ↗ so

54:42 ↗ going out and talking to people is

54:44 ↗ sometimes much more difficult than

54:46 ↗ offering them an online option

54:49 ↗ i too am a big huge fan of the ecology

54:51 ↗ stores

54:53 ↗ and i go there all the time and drop off

54:55 ↗ my used batteries and all kinds of

54:57 ↗ things so

54:58 ↗ um

54:59 ↗ in terms of the electric vehicles i

55:02 ↗ think i expressed myself at the last

55:03 ↗ meeting

55:04 ↗ i i and

55:06 ↗ i

55:07 ↗ appreciate the urgency that we heard

55:10 ↗ from council member hunt i really do

55:12 ↗ because uh there is

55:14 ↗ definitely urgency we'll all understand

55:15 ↗ that

55:16 ↗ um but on the other hand we do live in a

55:19 ↗ unique place where we have valleys and

55:21 ↗ hills and really steep hills

55:24 ↗ and then i appreciated your comments

55:25 ↗ about the

55:27 ↗ parts coming from overseas and the

55:30 ↗ supply chain issues that we have and

55:32 ↗ so electric vehicles are it's an

55:34 ↗ emerging market um and whenever you have

55:37 ↗ an emerging market

55:39 ↗ you need to be a little bit more

55:40 ↗ cautious and

55:42 ↗ i think that's where we are we're kind

55:43 ↗ of like let's balance being cautious

55:45 ↗ with the urgency of the need and i think

55:48 ↗ we need to proceed

55:50 ↗ you know very

55:52 ↗ patiently i guess is the word

55:54 ↗ forward

55:56 ↗ knowing that we've got to get there

55:58 ↗ so i am comfortable with the proposal

56:01 ↗ that was put forth tonight in terms of

56:03 ↗ of starting to get there in 2026 and

56:08 ↗ getting good feedback on what's

56:10 ↗ happening with our fleet so

56:12 ↗ so i do want to appreciate wendy thank

56:14 ↗ you for being here and thank you for

56:16 ↗ helping us have a really good discussion

56:19 ↗ and do appreciate your participation

56:22 ↗ uh but i'm very comfortable going ahead

56:24 ↗ with uh recology's proposal and

56:27 ↗ recommending that we send that forward

56:28 ↗ to the full council

56:31 ↗ thank you councilman michelle um i'll

56:34 ↗ echo most of the comments that that

56:37 ↗ have been have been put forward

56:39 ↗ um i i am also comfortable with the

56:42 ↗ direction that we're going

56:44 ↗ i i think that

56:47 ↗ well i listened to the k4c presentation

56:50 ↗ today that was put together by

56:52 ↗ executive constantine

56:55 ↗ and his message was

56:57 ↗ yeah things are

56:59 ↗ not looking great but we need to

57:01 ↗ turn it around by constantly pressing

57:04 ↗ and trying to change our behavior and

57:05 ↗ try to modify what we're doing

57:07 ↗ and i think that

57:10 ↗ by having uh

57:11 ↗ ev fleet that's going to be coming in on

57:14 ↗ a schedule that's going to look at the

57:16 ↗ reasonableness of our terrain and and

57:19 ↗ what can really be managed here

57:21 ↗ we're keeping our our finger

57:24 ↗ on the on the button to continue to

57:27 ↗ press forward with that

57:28 ↗ innovation to try to change what we're

57:31 ↗ doing here so i'm comfortable with the

57:33 ↗ way that the fleet is is lined up for

57:36 ↗ potentially rolling out and discussing

57:38 ↗ all the ins and outs with the staff as

57:40 ↗ as the technology improves also on the

57:43 ↗ the same message of

57:45 ↗ having us

57:47 ↗ constantly challenge ourselves

57:49 ↗ having the zero waste specialist that is

57:52 ↗ going to be

57:53 ↗ visiting the multi-family places and

57:56 ↗ you know as mr harvey pointed out

57:58 ↗ the the specialist will potentially do

58:02 ↗ ramped up contact depending on

58:05 ↗ if they were able to make contact and

58:08 ↗ they see changes or if no changes have

58:10 ↗ occurred then maybe they step up and do

58:12 ↗ the door hangers or maybe they step up

58:14 ↗ and do

58:15 ↗ you know the the recycle bags or

58:16 ↗ whatever other items can address a

58:19 ↗ specific behavior that needs to be you

58:22 ↗ know modified so that the diversion rate

58:24 ↗ can improve and so i think that's that's

58:26 ↗ pretty impressive um

58:28 ↗ i want to thank everyone who's been

58:30 ↗ involved with this process and i i know

58:32 ↗ that

58:33 ↗ recalls you put a lot of time and effort

58:35 ↗ in this i appreciate your efforts out mr

58:38 ↗ brown you keep saying you're going to

58:39 ↗ retire but you keep coming back

58:42 ↗ i hope that someday you find retirement

58:45 ↗ and peace

58:46 ↗ in retirement sir

58:49 ↗ wendy weiker uh thank you for your

58:50 ↗ comments and your presentation

58:52 ↗ we appreciate having options and the

58:54 ↗ ability to uh review different

58:57 ↗ ideas along the way and and discussing

58:59 ↗ those ideas so thank you for taking the

59:01 ↗ time to to come here tonight um

59:05 ↗ i'll hand it over to you

59:07 ↗ deputy administrator snyder do you have

59:09 ↗ any thoughts or

59:11 ↗ guidance you could give us on

59:14 ↗ where we should be placing this on the

59:16 ↗ agenda and or criteria we might be using

59:18 ↗ for making that decision

59:21 ↗ thank you so much councilmember joe

59:24 ↗ in terms of direction needed tonight

59:26 ↗ i think that you have answered our first

59:28 ↗ question which is

59:30 ↗ would you like to make any modifications

59:32 ↗ would you like to get us to pursue

59:34 ↗ another vendor are you comfortable as

59:36 ↗ we've proposed it and i hear what you're

59:38 ↗ saying that we're you're comfortable as

59:40 ↗ proposed and so um what we would like to

59:42 ↗ do is uh have a little bit of time to

59:45 ↗ clean up the contract language and

59:46 ↗ really finalize it since it's been a

59:48 ↗ quick turnaround since our last study

59:49 ↗ session

59:50 ↗ and um

59:52 ↗ and so when we return to council i think

59:54 ↗ that's a question uh

59:56 ↗ that we're happy to hear what your

59:58 ↗ recommendation is if you feel

1:00:00 ↗ comfortable putting it on consent or if

1:00:01 ↗ you would prefer for it to go on regular

1:00:04 ↗ business of course if it was on regular

1:00:05 ↗ business there would

1:00:06 ↗ be a staff presentation that would

1:00:08 ↗ accompany the item

1:00:10 ↗ in terms of what the other committee was

1:00:12 ↗ comfortable with i think we have

1:00:15 ↗ a council that's fairly comfortable with

1:00:17 ↗ the consent agenda and referring things

1:00:19 ↗ to the consent agenda and so we heard

1:00:21 ↗ that at the committee meeting uh last

1:00:24 ↗ week the last committee that we had

1:00:27 ↗ so they're comfortable with it that said

1:00:29 ↗ as uh you know this is kind of a

1:00:31 ↗ multi-step process and so

1:00:34 ↗ the committee you may recommend that it

1:00:36 ↗ goes on consent if that's what you're

1:00:38 ↗ comfortable with

1:00:39 ↗ and then council leadership may may

1:00:41 ↗ change their mind they may decide to

1:00:44 ↗ pull it off from consent and put it on

1:00:45 ↗ regular business

1:00:47 ↗ we may get additional questions as we

1:00:49 ↗ near

1:00:51 ↗ you know this item coming before council

1:00:53 ↗ for a final decision that may cause it

1:00:55 ↗ to pull down or one of your fellow

1:00:57 ↗ council members may request that it's

1:00:58 ↗ pulled down so um it is a multi-step

1:01:00 ↗ process we're happy to hear your

1:01:02 ↗ recommendation and move that forward and

1:01:03 ↗ have that discussion with council

1:01:04 ↗ leadership as well but we'd love to hear

1:01:06 ↗ what your perspective is and i uh i

1:01:08 ↗ would i would guess that your fellow

1:01:11 ↗ council members would like to hear what

1:01:13 ↗ your recommendation is as well

1:01:15 ↗ great any comments or thoughts on that

1:01:20 ↗ go ahead mr hall oh thank you um

1:01:24 ↗ i guess one other consideration for us

1:01:26 ↗ to consider is to historically

1:01:29 ↗ um

1:01:30 ↗ another reason for adding things to

1:01:32 ↗ regular business was

1:01:35 ↗ for the council in the city to be able

1:01:37 ↗ to present information to the public too

1:01:39 ↗ and i think we talked about this at one

1:01:41 ↗ of our previous city council retreats

1:01:44 ↗ and decided based on data from our most

1:01:46 ↗ recent community survey

1:01:48 ↗ that

1:01:49 ↗ citizen or residents here in esquad

1:01:51 ↗ don't typically get their information

1:01:52 ↗ about city business from regular

1:01:54 ↗ business city council meetings so

1:01:56 ↗ another consideration um

1:01:59 ↗ for us or i should say i think this

1:02:02 ↗ discussion should be centered more on do

1:02:04 ↗ we think the council needs a

1:02:06 ↗ presentation

1:02:08 ↗ and a deliberation

1:02:10 ↗ on this specific item because we can

1:02:12 ↗ always ask the administration to produce

1:02:15 ↗ communications content and i'm sure they

1:02:17 ↗ will especially with rate impacts

1:02:20 ↗ to communicate with residents about the

1:02:22 ↗ new contract this new position

1:02:24 ↗ um we're always doing communication work

1:02:26 ↗ within climate goals so i imagine there

1:02:28 ↗ would be some overlap there too so

1:02:31 ↗ anyways wanted to make sure to bring

1:02:32 ↗ that up um i guess i'm

1:02:34 ↗ comfortable putting this on the consent

1:02:37 ↗ calendar

1:02:38 ↗ um i do feel like we had a pretty good

1:02:40 ↗ discussion and everything was

1:02:43 ↗ um addressed in terms of what council

1:02:46 ↗ highlighted in our in our previous

1:02:47 ↗ discussion and if there are any council

1:02:50 ↗ members who feel

1:02:51 ↗ [Music]

1:02:53 ↗ it is important to have a

1:02:56 ↗ discussion about the topic they can pull

1:02:58 ↗ it off the consent calendar or they

1:03:00 ↗ could call council leadership and then

1:03:02 ↗ council leadership could move that to

1:03:04 ↗ regular business ahead of time

1:03:06 ↗ so that way there's more of a warning to

1:03:08 ↗ other council members but that's where

1:03:09 ↗ my head's at right now

1:03:11 ↗ you know

1:03:12 ↗ councilman d michelle

1:03:14 ↗ i'm comfortable with the consent agenda

1:03:17 ↗ i thought the packet that we got tonight

1:03:19 ↗ was very informative and then i presume

1:03:21 ↗ we're taking minutes from this meeting

1:03:23 ↗ and those would go forward as well so

1:03:25 ↗ they'll they'll also be able to read our

1:03:28 ↗ discussion

1:03:29 ↗ um because again i do want to call out

1:03:32 ↗ the importance of carrying forward the

1:03:35 ↗ low-income

1:03:37 ↗ support i also like council member joe's

1:03:41 ↗ idea of having a plan and i don't want

1:03:44 ↗ to get into the contract on that but

1:03:46 ↗ that we do have a plan for inclement

1:03:48 ↗ weather that

1:03:50 ↗ that could be just you know something

1:03:51 ↗ that we all work on

1:03:53 ↗ but i'd like that discussion to go

1:03:55 ↗ forward too so or that we have a record

1:03:57 ↗ of that

1:03:58 ↗ so

1:03:59 ↗ i but if all that information goes

1:04:02 ↗ forward to the council i'm comfortable

1:04:04 ↗ with it being on the consent agenda

1:04:09 ↗ i think it

1:04:10 ↗ can be placed on the consent agenda i

1:04:12 ↗ think that given the robust robust

1:04:15 ↗ nature of our

1:04:16 ↗ last conversation when all seven council

1:04:19 ↗ members were here um they may have

1:04:21 ↗ questions and it will be incumbent upon

1:04:23 ↗ them to kind of take the initiative to

1:04:25 ↗ pull those down if they felt the

1:04:27 ↗ questions weren't fully answered and i

1:04:29 ↗ want to make sure that they feel free to

1:04:30 ↗ do that

1:04:32 ↗ if they think that more

1:04:35 ↗ color and information needs to be added

1:04:37 ↗ to some of the questions that they had

1:04:39 ↗ but i'm comfortable putting on the

1:04:40 ↗ consent agenda for now with the full

1:04:42 ↗ understanding that may be pulled down

1:04:44 ↗ and and uh that's not a reflection on

1:04:46 ↗ our work necessarily but is just making

1:04:49 ↗ sure that we're we're dotting the eyes

1:04:50 ↗ and crossing the t's in this uh in this

1:04:52 ↗ process

1:04:54 ↗ okay does that give you guidance

1:04:57 ↗ that's yes very clear thank you very

1:04:59 ↗ much okay any other questions on this

1:05:01 ↗ topic that the administration needs

1:05:04 ↗ answered we have all the direction that

1:05:06 ↗ we needed thank you so much okay thank

1:05:08 ↗ you

1:05:10 ↗ all right

1:05:12 ↗ we will now move on to our next topic

1:05:15 ↗ which is a discussion of the tip

1:05:18 ↗ and uh

1:05:19 ↗ do we have

1:05:24 ↗ and andrew snyder deputy administrator

1:05:26 ↗ are you presenting on this item

1:05:29 ↗ uh i am looking at john mortensen our

1:05:32 ↗ transportation manager he will be

1:05:34 ↗ presenting on this item

1:05:38 ↗ oh

1:05:39 ↗ we've had her do you want a break

1:05:42 ↗ oh

1:05:43 ↗ do you need time to set up

1:05:51 ↗ perfect thank you

1:05:54 ↗ councilmember joe a couple of minutes

1:05:56 ↗ break would actually be good uh our

1:05:58 ↗ technicians need to uh take care of a

1:06:00 ↗ minor technical issue

1:06:03 ↗ very good we'll take a five minute break

1:06:05 ↗ and come back in at 7 40 a four minute

1:06:08 ↗ break

1:11:16 ↗ okay olin i think we're ready to

1:11:18 ↗ go back on camera

1:11:23 ↗ okay we're back from our recess and

1:11:24 ↗ we're going to take on

1:11:26 ↗ our next topic which is the six year

1:11:28 ↗ transportation improvement program

1:11:31 ↗ john mortensen transportation

1:11:32 ↗ engineering manager is joining us good

1:11:35 ↗ evening

1:11:36 ↗ i'll go ahead and hand it over to you

1:11:38 ↗ thank you very much councilmember joe

1:11:40 ↗ hello committee members i'm john morton

1:11:42 ↗ transportation engineering manager in

1:11:44 ↗ the public works department

1:11:51 ↗ tonight i'm here to talk about the

1:11:53 ↗ six-year transportation improvement

1:11:55 ↗ program

1:11:58 ↗ the purpose of tonight's meeting

1:12:01 ↗ is to provide an opportunity for the

1:12:03 ↗ mobility and infrastructure committee to

1:12:06 ↗ review discuss and provide feedback on

1:12:09 ↗ the proposed six-year transportation

1:12:11 ↗ improvement program john i'm so sorry to

1:12:14 ↗ interrupt but we're not seeing your

1:12:16 ↗ presentation slides

1:12:20 ↗ well go back to

1:12:23 ↗ yes

1:12:24 ↗ sure sorry about that power oops not

1:12:27 ↗ powerpoint but

1:12:29 ↗ screen one

1:12:30 ↗ no no no oh it's the

1:12:34 ↗ chrome powerpoint well i gotta open in

1:12:37 ↗ the app

1:12:41 ↗ and deputy clerk if you could move the

1:12:42 ↗ microphone a little bit closer

1:12:44 ↗ um just so we make sure that we're

1:12:46 ↗ picking up the sound

1:12:48 ↗ thank you

1:13:22 ↗ all right thank you everyone for your

1:13:24 ↗ patience

1:13:26 ↗ tonight's topic is the six year

1:13:28 ↗ transportation improvement program as i

1:13:30 ↗ mentioned the purpose of this item is to

1:13:33 ↗ give the mobility and infrastructure

1:13:34 ↗ committee the opportunity to review

1:13:37 ↗ discuss and provide feedback on the

1:13:40 ↗ proposed transportation improvements

1:13:50 ↗ the direction needed at tonight's

1:13:51 ↗ meeting is feedback on the proposed

1:13:54 ↗ improvements in the six-year

1:13:55 ↗ transportation improvement

1:13:58 ↗ program a little bit of the background

1:14:01 ↗ on the

1:14:02 ↗ item that we're discussing here tonight

1:14:04 ↗ is

1:14:05 ↗ every two years the city

1:14:08 ↗ adopts a six-year capital improvement

1:14:10 ↗ plan

1:14:12 ↗ and that's a pretty big process where we

1:14:15 ↗ look at

1:14:16 ↗ the city's revenue and expenditures and

1:14:19 ↗ a number of categories including

1:14:20 ↗ transportation parks facilities or

1:14:23 ↗ utilities and the chapter that's related

1:14:26 ↗ to transportation

1:14:28 ↗ is also the six years transportation

1:14:31 ↗ improvement program

1:14:32 ↗ washington state law requires that

1:14:34 ↗ public agencies like the city of esquire

1:14:36 ↗ adopt a six-year transportation

1:14:38 ↗ improvement program every year which is

1:14:41 ↗ why we're here to discuss it and

1:14:43 ↗ eventually have this item be adopted

1:14:46 ↗ the transportation improvement program

1:14:48 ↗ is largely influenced from the mobility

1:14:51 ↗ master plan that was adopted in march of

1:14:54 ↗ 2021

1:14:56 ↗ one of the things that we look at when

1:14:58 ↗ we decide which projects to put into the

1:15:02 ↗ transportation improvement program

1:15:04 ↗ are what are the funding sources

1:15:06 ↗ available both within the city of

1:15:08 ↗ issaquah and external grant

1:15:11 ↗ funds and try and really match up the

1:15:13 ↗ improvements that the community wants

1:15:15 ↗ and values

1:15:16 ↗ with the funding that sources that we

1:15:18 ↗ have in order to make the improvements

1:15:20 ↗ for the community

1:15:23 ↗ i really like this exhibit here because

1:15:25 ↗ it shows

1:15:26 ↗ where the transportation improvement

1:15:28 ↗ program is in relation to other

1:15:30 ↗ documents and plans that the city has

1:15:34 ↗ all of it is encompassed by the

1:15:37 ↗ city's comprehensive plan that

1:15:39 ↗ everything that we do in the

1:15:40 ↗ transportation improvement program

1:15:42 ↗ needs to be

1:15:46 ↗ in alignment with the comprehensive plan

1:15:50 ↗ and as i mentioned earlier the

1:15:51 ↗ transportation improvement program

1:15:54 ↗ is a portion of the larger capital

1:15:56 ↗ improvement plan and there's lots of

1:15:58 ↗ different planning documents that go

1:16:00 ↗ into

1:16:01 ↗ all of these decisions that the city

1:16:03 ↗ makes such as the mobility master plan

1:16:06 ↗ the issaquah climate action plan

1:16:08 ↗ community engagement traffic calming

1:16:11 ↗ activities and i did want to take a

1:16:14 ↗ point to

1:16:16 ↗ point out one thing that in our in the

1:16:18 ↗ packet i included a summary of feedback

1:16:20 ↗ from both the transportation advisory

1:16:22 ↗ board

1:16:23 ↗ and from the environmental board

1:16:26 ↗ just to let the council members on the

1:16:27 ↗ committee know the environmental board

1:16:29 ↗ felt like that they wanted more

1:16:32 ↗ extensive comments and so i believe that

1:16:34 ↗ they're going to

1:16:35 ↗ be submitting a letter

1:16:37 ↗ with

1:16:37 ↗ more detailed comments than the summary

1:16:39 ↗ but i want to let you guys know about

1:16:41 ↗ that

1:16:43 ↗ as we look at the transportation

1:16:45 ↗ improvement program i really like to

1:16:48 ↗ break it out into

1:16:49 ↗ buckets of projects just to this how i

1:16:53 ↗ sort them and

1:16:54 ↗ view them

1:16:56 ↗ those are annual projects projects that

1:16:58 ↗ are part of annual programs that we do

1:16:59 ↗ every year

1:17:01 ↗ projects that are underway in the

1:17:02 ↗ mobility master plan one of the things

1:17:04 ↗ that talked about was implementing

1:17:06 ↗ projects that are already underway so

1:17:08 ↗ the idea when the mobility master plan

1:17:10 ↗ was adopted wasn't to stop doing the

1:17:13 ↗ existing work is to keep those projects

1:17:15 ↗ moving forward and to completion and so

1:17:17 ↗ i've got still a number of those

1:17:19 ↗ projects

1:17:21 ↗ mandated projects which is my way of

1:17:24 ↗ saying

1:17:24 ↗ projects that the city just needs to do

1:17:26 ↗ to maintain the assets and public safety

1:17:30 ↗ new priority projects those are the

1:17:32 ↗ projects where we're really looking at

1:17:34 ↗ implementing the prioritization and the

1:17:37 ↗ mobility master plan and the the vision

1:17:39 ↗ for isquad transportation

1:17:42 ↗ future and then there's also long-term

1:17:45 ↗ projects those are ones that are not on

1:17:47 ↗ the next six years

1:17:49 ↗ but we keep a running list of the

1:17:50 ↗ transportation projects that we have

1:17:53 ↗ and

1:17:54 ↗ those are ones that

1:17:56 ↗ as time progresses

1:17:57 ↗ we would like to eventually implement

1:18:01 ↗ for the projects that are underway i've

1:18:03 ↗ got them listed here the first one is

1:18:06 ↗ newport way between sr 900 and southeast

1:18:09 ↗ 54th street

1:18:10 ↗ this is a project that's primarily a

1:18:13 ↗ non-motorized and a safety project

1:18:16 ↗ it is going to construct sidewalk on the

1:18:19 ↗ southern side of newport way

1:18:22 ↗ with the exception of where the harvey

1:18:23 ↗ manning park is in order to preserve

1:18:25 ↗ more of the hillside

1:18:27 ↗ on the north side it has a 12 foot wide

1:18:29 ↗ shared use path

1:18:31 ↗ that will eventually be part of the

1:18:33 ↗ mountains to sound greenway trail that

1:18:35 ↗ currently goes all the way from seattle

1:18:37 ↗ through mercer island to bellevue

1:18:39 ↗ bellevue's building sections of the

1:18:41 ↗ trail to issaquah and this will be

1:18:44 ↗ a portion of issaquah's part of the

1:18:46 ↗ trail

1:18:47 ↗ it also has intersection improvements

1:18:50 ↗ and

1:18:51 ↗ improvements to try and reduce speed

1:18:52 ↗ because newport way was originally a

1:18:54 ↗ state

1:18:55 ↗ highway and sometimes people still drive

1:18:57 ↗ it like a state highway when and it

1:19:00 ↗ doesn't reflect the urban setting that

1:19:02 ↗ esquire now has today

1:19:04 ↗ the newport way maple to sunset project

1:19:07 ↗ is a project that will

1:19:12 ↗ construct roundabouts at the

1:19:13 ↗ intersections of

1:19:16 ↗ juniper hawley and dogwood it also will

1:19:19 ↗ add a second southbound lane from maple

1:19:22 ↗ to 900 feet south of hawley in order to

1:19:25 ↗ reduce

1:19:26 ↗ pm

1:19:27 ↗ afternoon congestion

1:19:29 ↗ and

1:19:30 ↗ it will also build non-motorized

1:19:33 ↗ facilities for bicyclists and

1:19:34 ↗ pedestrians because

1:19:36 ↗ esquire has a regional growth center

1:19:38 ↗ where a lot of the future growth will

1:19:40 ↗ occur and there's really two southern

1:19:42 ↗ gateways into the regional growth center

1:19:45 ↗ sr 900 being one of them and newport way

1:19:47 ↗ is the other one and newport way is the

1:19:49 ↗ only of those two quarters that really

1:19:51 ↗ makes sense to have as a

1:19:53 ↗ non-motorized

1:19:55 ↗ gateway into the regional growth center

1:19:57 ↗ which is another part of that project

1:20:00 ↗ a very

1:20:01 ↗ popular project with the community is

1:20:04 ↗ the northwest smamish road non-motorized

1:20:07 ↗ improvements project it's a project that

1:20:09 ↗ will build non-motorized facilities

1:20:12 ↗ from

1:20:13 ↗ the neighborhood south of lake sammamish

1:20:16 ↗ to the lake sammamish state park

1:20:18 ↗ this is a project

1:20:20 ↗ that we're just getting ready to award

1:20:21 ↗ the design contract where we'll have a

1:20:24 ↗ and very intensive public involvement

1:20:26 ↗ process

1:20:27 ↗ to

1:20:28 ↗ identify the preferred alternative and

1:20:30 ↗ then design that to eventually construct

1:20:33 ↗ this

1:20:35 ↗ project that the

1:20:36 ↗ community would like and then the final

1:20:38 ↗ project underway is the signal poles up

1:20:41 ↗ in the ischwa highlands to get those

1:20:44 ↗ repainted as a project that's broken out

1:20:46 ↗ into multiple years including this year

1:20:48 ↗ to

1:20:49 ↗ take care of that asset for the city

1:20:52 ↗ okay we've got a question from barb d

1:20:54 ↗ michelle go ahead

1:20:56 ↗ uh thanks john if you could go back to

1:20:58 ↗ the

1:20:59 ↗ previous slide

1:21:01 ↗ so

1:21:02 ↗ so my concern as i look over these

1:21:03 ↗ projects and these are all great

1:21:06 ↗ projects

1:21:07 ↗ but

1:21:08 ↗ for example the northwest miami road

1:21:10 ↗ non-motorized improvements we've got the

1:21:12 ↗ funding to do the design

1:21:15 ↗ but i don't see any other funding source

1:21:17 ↗ for the actual project and so but is it

1:21:21 ↗ we we have to have the design first

1:21:23 ↗ before we can start looking for funding

1:21:25 ↗ for the rest of it or

1:21:27 ↗ can you just kind of go into the process

1:21:29 ↗ there for

1:21:30 ↗ how we move that project forward because

1:21:32 ↗ people down in that south kovari have

1:21:34 ↗ been waiting for that for a long time

1:21:36 ↗ yeah

1:21:37 ↗ that's a really good question and

1:21:39 ↗ by having the design done well i guess

1:21:41 ↗ the first step in the design is to come

1:21:43 ↗ up with the preferred alternative and

1:21:46 ↗ once we do that we'll have

1:21:48 ↗ an updated cost estimate and i think

1:21:50 ↗ it's part of the discussion is

1:21:53 ↗ the trade-offs of

1:21:55 ↗ and i'm just going to throw out numbers

1:21:57 ↗ if we build

1:21:58 ↗ a 15 million dollar project maybe we can

1:22:00 ↗ get everything we want this just me

1:22:03 ↗ making assumptions don't assume 15 is

1:22:05 ↗ the magic number or maybe

1:22:07 ↗ 8 million we can get most of what we

1:22:09 ↗ want and what does the community want

1:22:12 ↗ what are the funding sources

1:22:14 ↗ but having a pro the project

1:22:16 ↗ will first

1:22:17 ↗ identify the preferred alternative that

1:22:20 ↗ way we can start matching

1:22:22 ↗ funding sources

1:22:23 ↗ but then once you have a project

1:22:25 ↗ designed it's a lot easier to get

1:22:27 ↗ funding sources than when you just have

1:22:30 ↗ a concept on paper

1:22:32 ↗ and so it definitely helps and

1:22:35 ↗ knowing that what a huge priority this

1:22:37 ↗ project is for the city we definitely

1:22:40 ↗ want to find a way to make it happen

1:22:42 ↗ did that answer your question yes thank

1:22:44 ↗ you very much

1:22:49 ↗ the annual projects are projects that we

1:22:52 ↗ do every year

1:22:53 ↗ they're

1:22:54 ↗ you really could consider them programs

1:22:56 ↗ they're things like the ada improvements

1:22:59 ↗ project which is where

1:23:00 ↗ we construct improvements in the public

1:23:03 ↗ right-of-way in order to remove barriers

1:23:05 ↗ for people with disabilities some things

1:23:07 ↗ that we do

1:23:08 ↗ with that project are curb ramps that

1:23:10 ↗ way people with a mobility disability

1:23:12 ↗ can go from the sidewalk and then cross

1:23:14 ↗ the at the crosswalk we also

1:23:18 ↗ install pedestrian

1:23:20 ↗ audible pedestrian push buttons so if

1:23:22 ↗ you're at a new traffic signal

1:23:25 ↗ instead of just pushing the button once

1:23:27 ↗ to cross push and hold it for about

1:23:29 ↗ three seconds and then the

1:23:31 ↗ pedestrian push button will start

1:23:32 ↗ talking to you it'll tell you to wait to

1:23:34 ↗ cross and then when the walk signs on

1:23:36 ↗ it'll tell you to walk and that's to

1:23:38 ↗ help people with the

1:23:40 ↗ visual

1:23:41 ↗ disability

1:23:43 ↗ the

1:23:44 ↗ pavement management and concrete

1:23:46 ↗ maintenance projects those are two

1:23:48 ↗ projects that the city of esqua performs

1:23:51 ↗ every year in order to take care of our

1:23:53 ↗ assets our pavement and our concrete and

1:23:55 ↗ then the small strategic capital project

1:23:57 ↗ is a project a relatively new project it

1:24:00 ↗ came out of the strategic plan

1:24:03 ↗ with the goal to try and construct small

1:24:05 ↗ improvements that'll make a difference

1:24:07 ↗ for the community and help people

1:24:11 ↗ have mobility around the city

1:24:14 ↗ the mandated responsibilities

1:24:16 ↗ those are really most of the annual

1:24:18 ↗ projects these are the things that we

1:24:19 ↗ need to do to really take care of things

1:24:22 ↗ and so one of those is the black nugget

1:24:24 ↗ retaining mall that's something that

1:24:26 ↗ actually in the

1:24:28 ↗ sense the last time we've been looking

1:24:30 ↗ at a little bit more further i don't

1:24:31 ↗ have anything to share but we keep

1:24:33 ↗ looking into

1:24:36 ↗ when that wall will need to be replaced

1:24:38 ↗ or maintained what do we need to do to

1:24:40 ↗ it

1:24:41 ↗ but for this tip update we're leaving it

1:24:44 ↗ unchanged

1:24:45 ↗ but there could be changes

1:24:47 ↗ a year from now when we're looking at it

1:24:49 ↗ with the capital improvement plan

1:24:51 ↗ various slide repairs that we have

1:24:55 ↗ fall under this where we just need to

1:24:56 ↗ get it done and then our work to

1:24:59 ↗ maintain the city's bridges in this

1:25:02 ↗ transportation improvement program we're

1:25:03 ↗ proposing to do some work to

1:25:06 ↗ do a seismic upgrade to the bridge on

1:25:09 ↗ northwest gilman where it crosses

1:25:11 ↗ issaquah creek

1:25:14 ↗ then the the final bucket that i have of

1:25:17 ↗ projects is the

1:25:19 ↗ new priority projects and we only put

1:25:22 ↗ one in there this time and that's the

1:25:24 ↗ central esquire multimodal crossing it's

1:25:27 ↗ a project that's been in the tip for a

1:25:29 ↗ while and what we're proposing to do

1:25:32 ↗ is a planning study to identify a

1:25:35 ↗ preferred alternative potential funding

1:25:38 ↗ sources and to work with

1:25:41 ↗ various stakeholders like king county

1:25:43 ↗ metro sound transit and washdot

1:25:46 ↗ on what this crossing would look like

1:25:51 ↗ the options that the mobility and

1:25:53 ↗ infrastructure committee have are to

1:25:55 ↗ modify the proposed transportation

1:25:57 ↗ improvement program

1:25:59 ↗ or

1:26:00 ↗ to recommend the full council set the

1:26:02 ↗ public hearing

1:26:03 ↗ on june 6th

1:26:08 ↗ the recommendation by the administration

1:26:10 ↗ is

1:26:11 ↗ to have the council pass in a resolution

1:26:14 ↗ adopting the 2023 to 2028 transportation

1:26:19 ↗ improvement program as proposed at the

1:26:23 ↗ council meeting on june 20th

1:26:29 ↗ the timing and next steps for this item

1:26:32 ↗ at the

1:26:33 ↗ may transportation advisory board

1:26:36 ↗ meeting i will be giving them an update

1:26:37 ↗ of the discussion here because they're

1:26:40 ↗ really vested into

1:26:42 ↗ knowing about the transportation

1:26:43 ↗ improvement program

1:26:44 ↗ at the june 6th council meeting

1:26:48 ↗ we're proposing a public hearing

1:26:51 ↗ and then

1:26:52 ↗ to adopt the transportation improvement

1:26:54 ↗ program at the

1:26:56 ↗ june 20th council meeting

1:27:00 ↗ so reminder the direction needed is

1:27:02 ↗ feedback on the proposed transportation

1:27:05 ↗ improvements

1:27:09 ↗ thank you mr mortensen

1:27:11 ↗ questions from

1:27:13 ↗ the committee

1:27:16 ↗ councilmember hall had his microphone up

1:27:18 ↗ first

1:27:20 ↗ thank you

1:27:21 ↗ um thank you appreciate

1:27:24 ↗ the work in the space um

1:27:26 ↗ i have a question on

1:27:28 ↗ the proposal itself so one of our

1:27:31 ↗ options before us is to provide feedback

1:27:34 ↗ on

1:27:35 ↗ the proposed update to the tip but i

1:27:37 ↗ noticed in the packet

1:27:40 ↗ that if we were to modify the proposal

1:27:43 ↗ in a way we wouldn't

1:27:45 ↗ meet our

1:27:48 ↗ submission deadline for the state

1:27:50 ↗ which um is july first i believe um i'm

1:27:54 ↗ just wondering if you um if staff could

1:27:56 ↗ speak to you

1:27:59 ↗ some of the challenges that we

1:28:01 ↗ experienced that might have influenced

1:28:04 ↗ is it showing up later in the timeline

1:28:06 ↗ that it might have in a usual year if

1:28:08 ↗ you could speak to that at all

1:28:11 ↗ because i think you know council always

1:28:13 ↗ appreciates time to be able to offer um

1:28:15 ↗ suggestions and modifications but we

1:28:17 ↗ also

1:28:18 ↗ um are understanding of you know when

1:28:20 ↗ challenges you know come our way and we

1:28:21 ↗ don't have the ability to move as

1:28:24 ↗ quickly as we can so

1:28:26 ↗ yeah i would offer up a little bit

1:28:29 ↗ later but not that much usually this is

1:28:32 ↗ right around the time that we've done it

1:28:35 ↗ we really want to meet our deadline in

1:28:37 ↗ past years

1:28:38 ↗ the transportation improvement program

1:28:41 ↗ has been adopted after the the deadline

1:28:44 ↗ we definitely want to meet the deadline

1:28:46 ↗ there is no penalty for not meeting it

1:28:49 ↗ but

1:28:50 ↗ we still want to meet our deadline

1:28:55 ↗ councilmember hall if i may add to that

1:28:58 ↗ uh this is andrea snyder

1:29:00 ↗ um

1:29:01 ↗ as as john mortonson said uh we can go

1:29:04 ↗ past the deadline we don't want to do

1:29:06 ↗ that we always want to meet our state

1:29:08 ↗ mandated deadlines um and

1:29:11 ↗ you know this is i think something that

1:29:13 ↗ john had said at the top of his remarks

1:29:15 ↗ but typically um while we're required to

1:29:18 ↗ do a transportation improvement plan

1:29:20 ↗ update on an annual basis

1:29:22 ↗ uh we typically use these off years from

1:29:25 ↗ the cip to just do minor updates

1:29:28 ↗ we we look to the cip update as a much

1:29:30 ↗ more thorough updating process of our

1:29:34 ↗ capital improvement plan including the

1:29:36 ↗ transportation improvement plan so this

1:29:38 ↗ this is kind of one of those interim

1:29:39 ↗ years where we really are just looking

1:29:41 ↗ at making small smaller tweaks to budget

1:29:44 ↗ what's coming what's realistic to come

1:29:46 ↗ off the plan or move up on the plan etc

1:29:48 ↗ um but we uh so just letting you know

1:29:51 ↗ that was kind of our thought process

1:29:53 ↗ moving into this that um

1:29:55 ↗ we didn't necessarily design a larger

1:29:57 ↗ process for this update because that's

1:29:58 ↗ something we usually do every other year

1:30:00 ↗ with the cip update in addition to that

1:30:03 ↗ i would say

1:30:04 ↗ if there are feedback if you do have uh

1:30:07 ↗ changes tweaks things that we need to

1:30:09 ↗ consider please

1:30:10 ↗ let us know don't be shy we want to hear

1:30:13 ↗ we really do want to hear your feedback

1:30:15 ↗ thank you

1:30:16 ↗ okay perfect thank you very much

1:30:18 ↗ councilmember d michelle

1:30:22 ↗ so my question is really uh well

1:30:24 ↗ actually i think this is for the deputy

1:30:26 ↗ city administrator

1:30:27 ↗ um

1:30:29 ↗ i have no

1:30:30 ↗ problems with the tip as presented but i

1:30:33 ↗ look at the future year projects and i

1:30:35 ↗ see on that list a lot of really

1:30:37 ↗ important projects as well

1:30:39 ↗ and so

1:30:41 ↗ it's a little bit off topic but i think

1:30:42 ↗ it's on topic and that is

1:30:46 ↗ do we have plans or where are we in

1:30:48 ↗ terms of looking at our capital finance

1:30:51 ↗ planning and

1:30:53 ↗ um

1:30:54 ↗ the other question is if we approve this

1:30:56 ↗ tip now does that lock us in for another

1:30:58 ↗ two years

1:31:00 ↗ or are we able to adjust that if we were

1:31:02 ↗ to go out to the public

1:31:05 ↗ um

1:31:05 ↗ so those are my two questions and

1:31:08 ↗ probably for you more than john so

1:31:11 ↗ and and excellent questions thank you

1:31:14 ↗ so as you know we got uh our

1:31:17 ↗ recommendations from the capital uh

1:31:21 ↗ finance community task force

1:31:24 ↗ it's a mouthful so i always have to

1:31:26 ↗ pause and make sure i'm getting that

1:31:27 ↗ right um so we got the recommendations

1:31:29 ↗ from them the administration has been

1:31:30 ↗ working on uh an implementation plan and

1:31:33 ↗ proposal to bring back to council one of

1:31:36 ↗ the areas that the task force had

1:31:39 ↗ prioritized was mobility and

1:31:41 ↗ transportation that was the number one

1:31:42 ↗ priority for them and so we're gonna

1:31:44 ↗ we're actually scheduled to come back to

1:31:46 ↗ council on july june i'm sorry june 27th

1:31:50 ↗ i believe it is that's when the

1:31:53 ↗ committee of the whole will be so the

1:31:55 ↗ administration will return to council

1:31:57 ↗ with our proposal for

1:32:00 ↗ how we should proceed and implement the

1:32:02 ↗ task force recommendations including

1:32:05 ↗ transportation increasing those among

1:32:08 ↗ among the

1:32:10 ↗ the recommendations the task force made

1:32:12 ↗ they had immediate medium-term and

1:32:14 ↗ long-term actions to try to do more in

1:32:17 ↗ terms of capital investments and the

1:32:20 ↗ proposal follows those lines from the

1:32:21 ↗ administration so there's going to be

1:32:23 ↗ suggestions on things that we could do

1:32:25 ↗ in the more immediate term that would

1:32:27 ↗ move the needle on transportation and

1:32:29 ↗ what you would see in the tip and then

1:32:31 ↗ in

1:32:31 ↗ the medium term as well

1:32:34 ↗ so

1:32:34 ↗ we're eager to come back to city council

1:32:36 ↗ and have that discussion

1:32:40 ↗ and so are we locked in for two years or

1:32:43 ↗ yeah thank you i forgot that part of the

1:32:44 ↗ question uh we're not locked in the tip

1:32:48 ↗ as you know is a planning document it's

1:32:50 ↗ not a budgetary document either

1:32:53 ↗ and so while you even see revenue

1:32:55 ↗ sources assigned to different projects

1:32:57 ↗ that's something that still there needs

1:32:59 ↗ to be another approval process to budget

1:33:01 ↗ for those items and so this really is

1:33:03 ↗ the planning document

1:33:05 ↗ as we move forward

1:33:07 ↗ there could be things that we decide to

1:33:09 ↗ move up in the years that's really

1:33:11 ↗ something that council finalizes and

1:33:13 ↗ adopts with the budget process so this

1:33:16 ↗ is our planning document this is our

1:33:17 ↗ best guess from where we sit today but

1:33:19 ↗ there are going to be more conversations

1:33:21 ↗ with council and with the community

1:33:22 ↗ about our transportation investments

1:33:24 ↗ moving forward

1:33:27 ↗ deputy president hall

1:33:29 ↗ thank you for that response and that

1:33:31 ↗ committee of the whole meeting will

1:33:33 ↗ include a conversation about our

1:33:34 ↗ approach for expending arpa american

1:33:37 ↗ rescue plan act dollars as well because

1:33:41 ↗ those are included for some design and

1:33:43 ↗ planning or planning work for

1:33:45 ↗ tr-003 the multimodal i-90

1:33:49 ↗ crossing project

1:33:51 ↗ so if council

1:33:53 ↗ has a deliberative conversation and

1:33:55 ↗ wants to have a different approach for

1:33:57 ↗ those arpa dollars we would simply

1:33:58 ↗ revisit that planning number the next

1:34:01 ↗ year as part of the full cip update is

1:34:03 ↗ that correct

1:34:04 ↗ that's that's absolutely correct and we

1:34:06 ↗ would revisit it um

1:34:08 ↗ not only next year with the larger cip

1:34:11 ↗ update but also when it comes to budget

1:34:14 ↗ time

1:34:15 ↗ so this fall so but yes that's that's

1:34:18 ↗ the plan it's kind of a sneak preview to

1:34:20 ↗ what's in some of the administration's

1:34:22 ↗ proposal um but certainly um

1:34:26 ↗ it doesn't lock council in to anything

1:34:28 ↗ necessarily to adopt that tonight

1:34:29 ↗ because it is planning document meant to

1:34:32 ↗ guide our actions but isn't um isn't the

1:34:34 ↗ final action

1:34:36 ↗ great thank you i also had a question

1:34:38 ↗ about

1:34:40 ↗ tr003 the multimodal i-90 crossing

1:34:44 ↗ could you add just a little bit of color

1:34:46 ↗ to it where are we potentially

1:34:48 ↗ connecting over i-90 and

1:34:51 ↗ as a planning document

1:34:53 ↗ how does it

1:34:54 ↗ work or tie into

1:34:57 ↗ the potential terminus for sound transit

1:35:00 ↗ that's coming in

1:35:01 ↗ 2043 or four or five um is there are

1:35:05 ↗ those two projects connected in any way

1:35:09 ↗ fantastic question and

1:35:11 ↗ i would love to i guess

1:35:14 ↗ the

1:35:16 ↗ community engagement and the stakeholder

1:35:18 ↗ engagement will drive a lot of it so i

1:35:20 ↗ guess to answer the first question for

1:35:22 ↗ the location

1:35:23 ↗ the the crossing would be within isquas

1:35:25 ↗ regional growth center which i don't

1:35:27 ↗ have a map up with me to show you but

1:35:30 ↗ it'd be within there

1:35:32 ↗ i'm going to say most likely either at

1:35:35 ↗ maple to lake

1:35:37 ↗ would be a location that would make

1:35:39 ↗ sense

1:35:40 ↗ or 12th

1:35:42 ↗ to 11th so 12th on the southern end 11th

1:35:46 ↗ on the northern end but i don't want to

1:35:49 ↗ eliminate petition potential

1:35:51 ↗ alternatives things that we would look

1:35:53 ↗ at should the crossing go over the

1:35:55 ↗ freeway or under the freeway

1:35:57 ↗ and

1:35:58 ↗ what would be the impacts on land use

1:36:01 ↗ because if we went over the freeway

1:36:03 ↗ we're using a lot more land

1:36:05 ↗ than if we were to go under the freeway

1:36:08 ↗ and then work with sound transit because

1:36:12 ↗ in a lot of ways it makes sense to have

1:36:15 ↗ the sound transit light rail station

1:36:18 ↗ at

1:36:18 ↗ this crossing so what would a crossing

1:36:20 ↗ that would incorporate a light rail

1:36:22 ↗ station work with metro and sound

1:36:24 ↗ transit how would the bus transfers work

1:36:27 ↗ from

1:36:28 ↗ the buses onto the the train

1:36:31 ↗ and then for vehicles for dropping off

1:36:33 ↗ at the light rail station

1:36:34 ↗ and

1:36:35 ↗ the bicycles and the pedestrians and how

1:36:38 ↗ all of that would work and

1:36:40 ↗ what can we and can't do we do at i-90

1:36:43 ↗ because that is owned by the washtot

1:36:46 ↗ and

1:36:48 ↗ so it's a really exciting project lots

1:36:51 ↗ of

1:36:52 ↗ things that we need to get sorted out

1:36:54 ↗ with this planning study but i i think

1:36:56 ↗ it could be a

1:36:58 ↗ landmark transportation project for the

1:36:59 ↗ city

1:37:02 ↗ i i would only add one thing to that

1:37:04 ↗ which is that in our conversations with

1:37:06 ↗ sound transit on isoqua's future light

1:37:09 ↗ rail station we understand that

1:37:12 ↗ they seem to have

1:37:14 ↗ an early conceptual preference for a

1:37:16 ↗ station that's aligned

1:37:18 ↗ with the with i-90 so something that

1:37:21 ↗ could be

1:37:22 ↗ really compatible with what we're

1:37:23 ↗ talking here with the under over

1:37:25 ↗ crossing possibility of course all of

1:37:27 ↗ those

1:37:28 ↗ options and alternatives need to be

1:37:29 ↗ properly vetted and examined and we

1:37:33 ↗ really think that this study is a good

1:37:35 ↗ first step to that and would really

1:37:37 ↗ prepare us for those conversations with

1:37:39 ↗ sound transit

1:37:41 ↗ that's great to hear thank you

1:37:43 ↗ i also had a question on um a number of

1:37:46 ↗ the the items were

1:37:49 ↗ put back in time a little bit because of

1:37:52 ↗ the unavailable unavailability of staff

1:37:55 ↗ capacity to complete this work before

1:37:57 ↗ 2024

1:37:58 ↗ certainly it's a challenging employment

1:38:00 ↗ market i know that there was some

1:38:03 ↗ discussion of potentially

1:38:06 ↗ trying to find another transportation

1:38:07 ↗ engineer and this may be more of a

1:38:09 ↗ budget question than a question for us

1:38:11 ↗ tonight

1:38:12 ↗ is that going to be

1:38:14 ↗ are is the administration going to be

1:38:15 ↗ trying to do that before the budget or

1:38:18 ↗ is this going to be a discussion that we

1:38:20 ↗ have uh later in the fall

1:38:25 ↗ um

1:38:26 ↗ so so you're asking for all of the sneak

1:38:28 ↗ previews that are you know hidden hidden

1:38:31 ↗ content for

1:38:33 ↗ for for the

1:38:34 ↗ uh july uh 27th meeting or june 27th

1:38:37 ↗ meeting rather but um it is it is

1:38:39 ↗ something that we are really looking

1:38:41 ↗ into is

1:38:43 ↗ how do we add staff capacity because

1:38:45 ↗ we've heard from

1:38:47 ↗ the task force and members of council

1:38:49 ↗ that we want to do more when it comes to

1:38:50 ↗ mobility

1:38:52 ↗ and really staffing is a constraint

1:38:54 ↗ right now as you can see and so

1:38:56 ↗ that is something that i look forward to

1:38:59 ↗ the

1:39:00 ↗ the

1:39:01 ↗ discussion of that at a future date

1:39:04 ↗ thank you very much

1:39:06 ↗ okay

1:39:07 ↗ other questions from the committee

1:39:13 ↗ michelle sorry

1:39:14 ↗ the only question and i had was on the

1:39:19 ↗ uh the bridge the gilman bridge and i

1:39:22 ↗ know that it's been evaluated for

1:39:24 ↗ seismic stability

1:39:27 ↗ has it had any other kinds of

1:39:28 ↗ evaluations and are we assured that that

1:39:31 ↗ bridge is sound other than needing a

1:39:33 ↗ seismic refit

1:39:35 ↗ yes we had as part of the 2022 work plan

1:39:39 ↗ we did a an evaluation on the the gilman

1:39:42 ↗ bridge it did come back that we need to

1:39:45 ↗ post a load rating sign for

1:39:48 ↗ heavy emergency

1:39:50 ↗ vehicles so the heavier fire engines and

1:39:52 ↗ we're working with east side fire and

1:39:54 ↗ rescue to try and identify

1:39:56 ↗ what if any of their vehicles would meet

1:39:58 ↗ that criteria so we have

1:40:00 ↗ the the seismic on that bridge and

1:40:04 ↗ the heavy loading so there will be a

1:40:05 ↗ load rating sign going up pretty soon on

1:40:08 ↗ the gilman bridge

1:40:09 ↗ thank you

1:40:12 ↗ okay other questions from the committee

1:40:15 ↗ all right we'll open it up for uh public

1:40:17 ↗ comment

1:40:18 ↗ deputy clerk is there anyone online that

1:40:20 ↗ may want to comment on the tip this

1:40:23 ↗ evening

1:40:27 ↗ councilmember joe

1:40:28 ↗ connie marsh is online and would like to

1:40:33 ↗ give public comment

1:40:35 ↗ connie i have made you a panelist you

1:40:37 ↗ can unmute and also turn on your video

1:40:41 ↗ okay i am unmuted and turning on my

1:40:44 ↗ video

1:40:46 ↗ and uh i did see it what a three-piece

1:40:49 ↗ suit earlier anyway i'm connie marsh um

1:40:53 ↗ so

1:40:55 ↗ uh

1:40:58 ↗ it's hard to even know

1:41:00 ↗ how to deal with the complexity of

1:41:02 ↗ transportation in this conversation

1:41:06 ↗ what it seems like

1:41:09 ↗ is the transportation advisory board and

1:41:12 ↗ the master mobility plan

1:41:15 ↗ have funneled down to the council in a

1:41:18 ↗ very simplistic

1:41:21 ↗ you get a choice

1:41:23 ↗ of

1:41:24 ↗ these projects

1:41:26 ↗ for the six year tip

1:41:29 ↗ and

1:41:31 ↗ i

1:41:32 ↗ i guess i feel like

1:41:35 ↗ the conversation is missing

1:41:38 ↗ about

1:41:40 ↗ how to choose the projects in a changing

1:41:43 ↗ world where we can no longer

1:41:45 ↗ afford

1:41:46 ↗ to use single occupancy vehicles for the

1:41:49 ↗ future

1:41:51 ↗ for climate action in a variety of

1:41:53 ↗ reasons

1:41:54 ↗ and the master mobility plan

1:41:58 ↗ sort of showcases that but it has not

1:42:01 ↗ been brought along to the community

1:42:04 ↗ because they're

1:42:05 ↗ they want to be like

1:42:07 ↗ driving their cars and for the most part

1:42:10 ↗ our tip

1:42:12 ↗ still accommodates single occupancy

1:42:14 ↗ vehicles more than it does anything that

1:42:17 ↗ is multimodal and these tip projects

1:42:22 ↗ for the most part

1:42:25 ↗ continue

1:42:26 ↗ that trend

1:42:29 ↗ so i guess i want to know when we're

1:42:31 ↗ going to have that

1:42:33 ↗ that

1:42:34 ↗ public education and council moment or

1:42:38 ↗ realization

1:42:40 ↗ where

1:42:41 ↗ we say we have a transportation problem

1:42:44 ↗ that can't be solved by cars

1:42:48 ↗ and

1:42:49 ↗ so while the city in one hand seems to

1:42:53 ↗ be going that direction

1:42:55 ↗ it

1:42:56 ↗ it didn't follow through in this

1:42:58 ↗ presentation to you

1:43:01 ↗ and that's a little confusing to me in

1:43:03 ↗ the past you would have gotten

1:43:06 ↗ the whole tip with all of the future

1:43:08 ↗ lists and you would have gotten options

1:43:11 ↗ as to all the different projects that

1:43:14 ↗ you might prioritize one over the other

1:43:16 ↗ and then you would have had that

1:43:17 ↗ conversation so

1:43:20 ↗ you've been you've been sort of funneled

1:43:22 ↗ and i don't know is that bad is that

1:43:24 ↗ good

1:43:26 ↗ i just wanted to bring it up so that you

1:43:28 ↗ were aware

1:43:29 ↗ of all of the other things that were

1:43:31 ↗ happening behind and now there's a

1:43:34 ↗ parallel track

1:43:36 ↗ where we're doing title 18 updates

1:43:39 ↗ and so

1:43:41 ↗ when

1:43:42 ↗ um

1:43:42 ↗ i read the code for the title of teen 18

1:43:46 ↗ updates

1:43:47 ↗ it says

1:43:49 ↗ we are going to have a certain grid

1:43:50 ↗ system and we're going to have paths and

1:43:53 ↗ we're going to have sidewalks but every

1:43:55 ↗ time i ask the question of

1:43:58 ↗ well how do we get the people across the

1:44:00 ↗ street so they can actually

1:44:03 ↗ walk

1:44:04 ↗ they tell me that is not us

1:44:07 ↗ that

1:44:08 ↗ is the transportation group

1:44:12 ↗ so

1:44:15 ↗ when you are looking at the tip and

1:44:18 ↗ you're looking at title 18

1:44:20 ↗ i have yet to understand how we're going

1:44:22 ↗ to get this web

1:44:24 ↗ of multimodal transportation that can

1:44:27 ↗ actually just actually get across the

1:44:29 ↗ street instead of going down the street

1:44:32 ↗ and never crossing it's missing at this

1:44:35 ↗ point in time i wanted to make you aware

1:44:38 ↗ of that there does not seem to be a

1:44:41 ↗ moment on the city council agenda

1:44:45 ↗ where

1:44:46 ↗ that

1:44:47 ↗ topic can elegantly come through so that

1:44:51 ↗ you can make decisions

1:44:52 ↗ to ensure that we are able to actually

1:44:55 ↗ safely cross the street like with

1:44:58 ↗ newport way way down in engineering

1:45:01 ↗ we'll figure out whether they're

1:45:03 ↗ actually going to let you cross the

1:45:04 ↗ street along newport way because we have

1:45:06 ↗ huge parts of newport way where you

1:45:08 ↗ can't get across the street right

1:45:11 ↗ so

1:45:12 ↗ if we want

1:45:14 ↗ to gain our

1:45:16 ↗ mobility master plan our master mobility

1:45:19 ↗ plan

1:45:20 ↗ we are going to have to change our way

1:45:22 ↗ of doing

1:45:23 ↗ business

1:45:25 ↗ and make sure that our land use planning

1:45:27 ↗ and our

1:45:28 ↗ transportation elegantly combined to

1:45:32 ↗ create the system that we need to get

1:45:34 ↗ people out of their cars

1:45:36 ↗ so

1:45:37 ↗ uh

1:45:38 ↗ i just feel like that conversation is

1:45:41 ↗ is is missing and i don't know that

1:45:44 ↗ tonight is the night to have it

1:45:47 ↗ but i want to put it in your brains and

1:45:48 ↗ this is the first place that i could get

1:45:50 ↗ it i don't have particular problems

1:45:54 ↗ with the projects

1:45:56 ↗ that they're putting out i personally

1:45:58 ↗ don't think they are the most important

1:46:00 ↗ problems

1:46:01 ↗ i think the

1:46:02 ↗ lack of sidewalks on squawk mountain so

1:46:05 ↗ that people have to walk with cars

1:46:07 ↗ getting up and down the hill

1:46:10 ↗ is in some cases more important than

1:46:13 ↗ allowing

1:46:15 ↗ cars to go better on newport way

1:46:18 ↗ um

1:46:19 ↗ but

1:46:23 ↗ there there you go i don't know that

1:46:25 ↗ you've been provided the opportunity to

1:46:28 ↗ switch out

1:46:30 ↗ one project to the other

1:46:32 ↗ um

1:46:34 ↗ i don't know how to make it better

1:46:35 ↗ either so you can see i'm not here with

1:46:37 ↗ answers this time which is very strange

1:46:41 ↗ but i do have a lot of questions for you

1:46:43 ↗ to ponder thank you

1:46:46 ↗ thank you

1:46:48 ↗ connie marsh appreciate it

1:46:51 ↗ deputy clerk any other

1:46:53 ↗ people online that have comments

1:46:55 ↗ or wish to speak

1:46:59 ↗ no council member joe there are no other

1:47:00 ↗ attendees online

1:47:03 ↗ great thank you

1:47:05 ↗ anyone in the audience would like to

1:47:06 ↗ speak see

1:47:07 ↗ mr modil

1:47:15 ↗ good evening council

1:47:17 ↗ i just wanted to

1:47:20 ↗ comment on a few things just as we we

1:47:22 ↗ know you really well but could you

1:47:23 ↗ identify yourself and just let us know

1:47:25 ↗ where you live and your connection to

1:47:26 ↗ the city julia midlil a resident of uh

1:47:29 ↗ issaquah squawk mountain

1:47:31 ↗ um i just want to make a couple comments

1:47:34 ↗ in my personal capacity even though i am

1:47:36 ↗ a member of transportation advisory

1:47:37 ↗ board

1:47:38 ↗ i think

1:47:40 ↗ a lot of the projects that are

1:47:44 ↗ looking at being funded in that list of

1:47:46 ↗ really short-term projects to 2028

1:47:49 ↗ it i think there's an inevitability

1:47:52 ↗ about those projects for example the

1:47:53 ↗ newport way project

1:47:55 ↗ is

1:47:56 ↗ federally funded so it would be kind of

1:47:59 ↗ silly to

1:48:00 ↗ relinquish those federal funds

1:48:03 ↗ but i'm pretty dissatisfied by

1:48:06 ↗ the way it expands road capacity

1:48:09 ↗ and so i think the moment for us to

1:48:12 ↗ change that direction is

1:48:14 ↗ through the

1:48:16 ↗ future year projects and i'm very dis

1:48:19 ↗ dissatisfied by those future year

1:48:21 ↗ projects especially when it comes to

1:48:23 ↗ those road expansion

1:48:25 ↗ uh road

1:48:26 ↗ um interchange

1:48:28 ↗ projects such as front street

1:48:30 ↗ interchange

1:48:31 ↗ that particular project for example just

1:48:34 ↗ does not make any sense to me

1:48:36 ↗ as it is right now

1:48:38 ↗ that road is very

1:48:40 ↗ dangerous for someone who's biking or

1:48:43 ↗ for someone who's walking and making it

1:48:45 ↗ to diverging diamonds as i've seen in

1:48:48 ↗ previous

1:48:49 ↗ plans in 2018

1:48:51 ↗ that whole visioning process

1:48:53 ↗ i think would make it even less safe

1:48:56 ↗ and there's a few other road winding

1:48:58 ↗ projects that really need strict

1:49:00 ↗ scrutiny

1:49:02 ↗ in terms of planning in the future years

1:49:05 ↗ so i think that's where city council

1:49:07 ↗ should be

1:49:08 ↗ putting a lot of

1:49:10 ↗ interest in

1:49:12 ↗ and focus and and really interrogating

1:49:15 ↗ the premise of those projects thank you

1:49:19 ↗ thank you very much

1:49:21 ↗ other members of the public that might

1:49:23 ↗ want to give public comment

1:49:27 ↗ seeing none we will move on to the next

1:49:30 ↗ part of the discussion which is council

1:49:32 ↗ deliberations

1:49:35 ↗ councilmember michelle

1:49:38 ↗ so

1:49:40 ↗ first of all as i said i don't have any

1:49:42 ↗ issues with the

1:49:44 ↗ current uh

1:49:46 ↗ list of projects on the transportation

1:49:48 ↗ improvement

1:49:49 ↗ plan

1:49:51 ↗ but i think

1:49:53 ↗ connie and julian's comments are well

1:49:55 ↗ taken

1:49:56 ↗ i think one of the

1:49:59 ↗ one of the problems we have with

1:50:03 ↗ developing

1:50:05 ↗ transit solutions in a transportation

1:50:08 ↗ improvement plan is that this is a

1:50:10 ↗ capital plan

1:50:11 ↗ and

1:50:13 ↗ a lot of what happens with transit is is

1:50:16 ↗ not capital driven it's operations

1:50:18 ↗ driven it's buses on the streets and

1:50:20 ↗ then you have to have streets in order

1:50:22 ↗ to have the buses

1:50:23 ↗ so

1:50:26 ↗ it's

1:50:28 ↗ miss marsh and i have had this

1:50:29 ↗ discussion before what exactly would we

1:50:32 ↗ invest in

1:50:34 ↗ to help improve transit in our area and

1:50:38 ↗ that is where um i she said she didn't

1:50:40 ↗ have any answers and i don't have any

1:50:42 ↗ answers either so

1:50:44 ↗ uh other than how do we make it easier

1:50:47 ↗ for people to take buses and how do we

1:50:49 ↗ make it easier for buses to get around

1:50:52 ↗ and i know we're working on that in

1:50:54 ↗ terms of how we serve our mountainous

1:50:56 ↗ areas in issaquah through shuttles and

1:50:59 ↗ things like that so

1:51:01 ↗ so

1:51:03 ↗ it's uh i think that it however i think

1:51:05 ↗ it is a discussion that we need to have

1:51:07 ↗ as a council

1:51:09 ↗ are we really working toward the goals

1:51:11 ↗ of the master mobility plan which really

1:51:13 ↗ has a heavy transit uh emphasis in

1:51:16 ↗ walking and uh bicycle routes and so

1:51:19 ↗ forth

1:51:20 ↗ and some of those projects are in the

1:51:22 ↗ future plans that julian pointed out so

1:51:25 ↗ so but they're not funded and they're

1:51:26 ↗ not even on the transportation

1:51:28 ↗ improvement plan so so those are

1:51:30 ↗ discussions i think we need to have i

1:51:32 ↗ think the difficulty is what kind of

1:51:34 ↗ capital investments can we make that are

1:51:37 ↗ really going to make a difference and so

1:51:39 ↗ that's a discussion that we need to

1:51:40 ↗ continue to have

1:51:42 ↗ but

1:51:44 ↗ i like the buckets that you put those

1:51:46 ↗ into john because i think that really

1:51:48 ↗ lays it out there's some things we're

1:51:49 ↗ mandated to do there's some things that

1:51:52 ↗ that we want to do on an annual basis

1:51:55 ↗ like the i'm very strongly in support of

1:51:57 ↗ the pavement improvement program and

1:52:00 ↗ those kinds of maintenance things that

1:52:02 ↗ really make a difference to how people

1:52:04 ↗ get around and

1:52:05 ↗ uh that they have an easy way of walking

1:52:07 ↗ on the sidewalks and things like that so

1:52:09 ↗ i think we've done a good job of putting

1:52:11 ↗ investments into those areas so at this

1:52:14 ↗ point i'm comfortable sending it forward

1:52:16 ↗ i just think i agree with connie and

1:52:18 ↗ julian we need further discussions

1:52:20 ↗ thank you

1:52:22 ↗ thank you

1:52:24 ↗ deputy council member

1:52:26 ↗ hall

1:52:28 ↗ deputy council president hall sorry it's

1:52:30 ↗ i'm not a councilmember i'm a deputy

1:52:32 ↗ council member no

1:52:34 ↗ um

1:52:35 ↗ no thank you uh thank you to our public

1:52:37 ↗ commenters too uh i just jotted out some

1:52:40 ↗ comments because um you made me think of

1:52:43 ↗ a few books i've been reading about

1:52:44 ↗ mobility and the sense of urgency that

1:52:46 ↗ cities need to be tackling with regard

1:52:48 ↗ to urbanism so i'll get to that in a

1:52:50 ↗ second but

1:52:51 ↗ overall i i'm happy with the

1:52:54 ↗ recommendation that the administration

1:52:55 ↗ has for us

1:52:57 ↗ uh and the feedback that you know these

1:53:00 ↗ interim

1:53:01 ↗ um

1:53:02 ↗ interim years when we're not passing the

1:53:04 ↗ overall capital improvement plan are

1:53:06 ↗ really more for small tweaks and minor

1:53:09 ↗ um updates to projects that we have

1:53:11 ↗ going through

1:53:12 ↗ for example um i did appreciate the

1:53:15 ↗ alignment of project descriptions with

1:53:17 ↗ the mobility master plan and keeping

1:53:19 ↗ that in mind

1:53:21 ↗ and ensuring that we're as competitive

1:53:22 ↗ as we can be for the grant process too

1:53:25 ↗ um i think the uh arpa

1:53:29 ↗ funding uh the leaked um proposal that

1:53:32 ↗ we got from the administration on the um

1:53:35 ↗ arpa funding approach um for the central

1:53:37 ↗ isquad multimodal i-90 crossing is

1:53:40 ↗ interesting that's a it's an interesting

1:53:42 ↗ one and it'd be certainly a big chunk of

1:53:44 ↗ the arpa funding so i'm interested in

1:53:46 ↗ exploring that i guess we'll see where

1:53:48 ↗ the council goes um i'm fine with it

1:53:50 ↗ staying and not make any adjustments to

1:53:52 ↗ the tip with regard to that

1:53:55 ↗ i want to thank the transportation

1:53:57 ↗ advisory board and the environmental

1:53:58 ↗ board for

1:54:00 ↗ providing their comments and for staff

1:54:01 ↗ for summarizing those comments for us

1:54:04 ↗ and

1:54:05 ↗ i

1:54:07 ↗ from what i understand in your

1:54:08 ↗ presentation the environmental board

1:54:10 ↗ will be providing more thorough

1:54:12 ↗ comments via email to us is that correct

1:54:15 ↗ yes

1:54:16 ↗ okay for that reason then i think it

1:54:18 ↗ might be more appropriate for this to

1:54:19 ↗ sit on a regular business item at the

1:54:21 ↗ upcoming city council meeting um so that

1:54:23 ↗ way we can kind of discuss if there are

1:54:25 ↗ any new developments based on those

1:54:26 ↗ comments

1:54:28 ↗ but i appreciate the heads up on that

1:54:32 ↗ uh i

1:54:34 ↗ i mean yeah the mobility master plan it

1:54:37 ↗ it envisions this range of mobility

1:54:39 ↗ options for our residents and

1:54:40 ↗ acknowledges that we need to do a whole

1:54:42 ↗ lot more to get people out of their cars

1:54:44 ↗ for a lot of a lot of reasons that have

1:54:46 ↗ positive benefits on people's lives in

1:54:48 ↗ the environment um i think connie brings

1:54:51 ↗ up really good points about

1:54:53 ↗ the mobility master plan alignment with

1:54:55 ↗ our tip process structurally

1:54:58 ↗ uh is that working in in how do we

1:55:01 ↗ change the

1:55:02 ↗ how do we and do we need to change the

1:55:05 ↗ way that we do business as usual

1:55:07 ↗ um but more importantly you know how are

1:55:09 ↗ we approaching the conversation maybe

1:55:11 ↗ not more importantly but in addition how

1:55:13 ↗ are we approaching the conversation with

1:55:15 ↗ the community uh and is the community

1:55:17 ↗ aware

1:55:18 ↗ of this bold new vision is the community

1:55:20 ↗ aware of emerging

1:55:22 ↗ policy in in transportation and in

1:55:25 ↗ mobility

1:55:26 ↗ um i think perhaps this might be a good

1:55:29 ↗ um

1:55:30 ↗ discussion to have at a community

1:55:32 ↗ listening session to kind of set the

1:55:34 ↗ stage of the mobility master plan and

1:55:36 ↗ then have a focused conversation on

1:55:38 ↗ mobility um and then

1:55:40 ↗ perhaps uh

1:55:42 ↗ i can't i'm not sure what the schedule

1:55:44 ↗ for committee of the whole meetings are

1:55:45 ↗ or if we even have these kinds of broad

1:55:47 ↗ conversations at committee the whole

1:55:49 ↗ meetings again but

1:55:51 ↗ it might be a good conversation there

1:55:52 ↗ and if not perhaps this is something

1:55:54 ↗ council leadership

1:55:56 ↗ could work to include at a future

1:55:57 ↗ retreat

1:55:58 ↗ to talk about approaches in terms of

1:56:01 ↗ what council actions could be in

1:56:03 ↗ alignment with our mobility master plan

1:56:05 ↗ and in alignment with the urgency of the

1:56:07 ↗ moment that we're in

1:56:09 ↗ um so i i

1:56:11 ↗ just like councilmember michelle don't

1:56:13 ↗ have the answers here

1:56:14 ↗ and have much more questions than

1:56:16 ↗ answers

1:56:17 ↗ but definitely important to ponder and

1:56:19 ↗ ponder we shall

1:56:21 ↗ julian i think you bring up good points

1:56:23 ↗ too

1:56:23 ↗ i think another question

1:56:26 ↗ for us to consider

1:56:28 ↗ uh in this alignment conversation

1:56:30 ↗ between the tip process the cip process

1:56:33 ↗ and the mobility master plan is are we

1:56:36 ↗ you know prioritizing road widening uh

1:56:38 ↗ projects more than we should be from a

1:56:41 ↗ policy perspective

1:56:42 ↗ of council um you know are we are we

1:56:45 ↗ ignoring um

1:56:47 ↗ not ignoring the word bill use it for

1:56:49 ↗ now ignoring our responsibilities to

1:56:51 ↗ good urbanism in the mobility master

1:56:53 ↗ plan in future years and what is the

1:56:56 ↗ council's urgency here so again just

1:56:58 ↗ providing some comments because i think

1:57:00 ↗ we do need to have kind of a high level

1:57:02 ↗ conversation um from council to set i

1:57:05 ↗ mean the mobility master plan is our

1:57:07 ↗ policy it is our north star with regard

1:57:09 ↗ to mobility policy here in estoqua but

1:57:11 ↗ perhaps we need to have a more focused

1:57:12 ↗ conversation on how we align that with

1:57:15 ↗ how we do business

1:57:16 ↗ and um

1:57:18 ↗ those are my comments otherwise i'm fine

1:57:20 ↗ with the tip as it is right now it is

1:57:22 ↗ just housekeeping

1:57:23 ↗ in these interim years so thank you for

1:57:25 ↗ all your hard work on this i appreciate

1:57:27 ↗ it

1:57:29 ↗ thank you i'd also reiterate the

1:57:31 ↗ comments that

1:57:33 ↗ deputy council president hall made

1:57:36 ↗ thanking you mr mortensen and for all of

1:57:39 ↗ your hard work and the administration

1:57:41 ↗ for making sure that

1:57:44 ↗ you're being thoughtful about the

1:57:46 ↗ projects that are coming

1:57:48 ↗ and how we can connect those together

1:57:50 ↗ with

1:57:51 ↗ potential funding or making them

1:57:54 ↗ as

1:57:56 ↗ you know as as

1:57:58 ↗ making them

1:58:00 ↗ very acceptable or very uh

1:58:03 ↗ enticing for

1:58:05 ↗ our partners on the county and state

1:58:07 ↗ level

1:58:08 ↗ and federal level to help fund those

1:58:10 ↗ projects and it does come down to

1:58:12 ↗ putting that plan down first so we have

1:58:14 ↗ a vision that we're

1:58:16 ↗ behind and then going out and selling

1:58:18 ↗ that vision for that funding so i do

1:58:19 ↗ appreciate that foresight that you're

1:58:22 ↗ putting forward uh in in these plans

1:58:26 ↗ i don't have any

1:58:27 ↗ real concerns about

1:58:30 ↗ any changes for this and we are as has

1:58:32 ↗ been pointed out pretty limited in what

1:58:34 ↗ we can

1:58:35 ↗ what we can do

1:58:37 ↗ i would just encourage the

1:58:38 ↗ administration to

1:58:40 ↗ continue to look for those opportunities

1:58:41 ↗ where

1:58:42 ↗ um because we're out in the community

1:58:44 ↗ because we're hearing community

1:58:46 ↗ conversations

1:58:47 ↗ there might be an opportunity to get

1:58:48 ↗ that fifty thousand dollars that might

1:58:51 ↗ just be a you know

1:58:53 ↗ a one-time county thing that we just

1:58:55 ↗ happen to

1:58:57 ↗ read about and apply for that can make a

1:58:59 ↗ big difference in in one little area of

1:59:01 ↗ our town

1:59:02 ↗ um you know and i know that you're

1:59:04 ↗ constantly looking out for those

1:59:05 ↗ opportunities uh in your conversations

1:59:07 ↗ and we uh as council members are also

1:59:11 ↗ having conversations with our fellow

1:59:13 ↗ council members and and the other bodies

1:59:15 ↗ that we touch uh in terms of the state

1:59:17 ↗ house or whether it's uh other uh city

1:59:20 ↗ councils or county council out there so

1:59:23 ↗ it's all a team effort and we all need

1:59:25 ↗ to

1:59:26 ↗ be aware of of the opportunities out

1:59:28 ↗ there

1:59:29 ↗ and maybe

1:59:30 ↗ something will break our way that can

1:59:32 ↗ help make a difference so

1:59:35 ↗ the options that the administration was

1:59:37 ↗ asking for feedback on was

1:59:40 ↗ modify the proposed tip and it sounds

1:59:42 ↗ like we're okay with

1:59:43 ↗ the

1:59:44 ↗ item as is and then

1:59:47 ↗ they were asking if we were comfortable

1:59:48 ↗ with recommending the full council set

1:59:50 ↗ the public hearing for this item for

1:59:52 ↗ june 6th

1:59:54 ↗ and

1:59:55 ↗ want to make sure that i've captured all

1:59:57 ↗ the questions that the administration

1:59:59 ↗ has

2:00:00 ↗ okay are we comfortable with june 6th

2:00:02 ↗ then for setting a public hearing and

2:00:05 ↗ letting

2:00:06 ↗ the community give their feedback on on

2:00:08 ↗ what they've heard and what they've read

2:00:10 ↗ okay

2:00:11 ↗ fantastic

2:00:13 ↗ councilmember joe if i may

2:00:15 ↗ um i i just wanted to um

2:00:18 ↗ provide a little bit more information on

2:00:22 ↗ uh

2:00:23 ↗ on what you can expect for that date

2:00:25 ↗ because i think the materials are going

2:00:27 ↗ to look just a little bit different from

2:00:29 ↗ what you've seen tonight and i didn't

2:00:30 ↗ want there to be any surprises

2:00:32 ↗ based off of some of the comments that

2:00:34 ↗ we've heard from the environmental board

2:00:38 ↗ and we're they're going to be providing

2:00:41 ↗ a letter but just kind of

2:00:42 ↗ what what's been communicated so far

2:00:45 ↗ um i would like for us to better address

2:00:48 ↗ some of their concerns in the materials

2:00:50 ↗ and so now usually what you see on these

2:00:52 ↗ committee meetings is often the

2:00:54 ↗ materials kind of move forward

2:00:55 ↗ relatively unchanged to the next

2:00:57 ↗ meeting they'll incorporate an update

2:00:59 ↗ from what occurred at the meeting but

2:01:00 ↗ otherwise

2:01:02 ↗ be be pretty much the same

2:01:04 ↗ i think in this case i want to make sure

2:01:06 ↗ that our materials really address the

2:01:07 ↗ feedback that we've heard

2:01:09 ↗ and that we're anticipating will hear

2:01:12 ↗ over the next

2:01:13 ↗ couple of weeks leading to that public

2:01:15 ↗ hearing so

2:01:16 ↗ in particular what we've heard from the

2:01:17 ↗ equity i'm sorry the environmental board

2:01:20 ↗ is

2:01:21 ↗ that

2:01:23 ↗ they they want to make sure that uh

2:01:26 ↗ that we're addressing some of the bike

2:01:28 ↗ pad and other mobility options and not

2:01:30 ↗ just encouraging uh single occupant

2:01:33 ↗ vehicles and so i want to be more

2:01:35 ↗ explicit with how some of these projects

2:01:37 ↗ in the tip

2:01:38 ↗ work to address that versus current

2:01:41 ↗ conditions and

2:01:43 ↗ also concerns of safety and how some of

2:01:45 ↗ these projects really address safety you

2:01:47 ↗ don't always get that in these high

2:01:48 ↗ level summaries and so i just want to be

2:01:50 ↗ able to provide more information

2:01:52 ↗ to address some of those specific

2:01:54 ↗ concerns

2:01:55 ↗ and

2:01:56 ↗ and i think

2:01:58 ↗ we've been talking the capital finance

2:02:00 ↗ community task force has been talking

2:02:02 ↗ provided recommendations around the cip

2:02:04 ↗ process and maybe making some changes to

2:02:06 ↗ that taking a look at those criteria

2:02:07 ↗ that are used i think we need to fold

2:02:09 ↗ that into the discussion for the big

2:02:11 ↗ update next year when we look at how do

2:02:13 ↗ we better infuse

2:02:16 ↗ the the policies of that have been

2:02:18 ↗ adopted through the issaquah climate

2:02:19 ↗ action plan um also the equity framework

2:02:22 ↗ that we're about to receive and so i

2:02:24 ↗ think we'll be seeing uh some

2:02:26 ↗ differences there that we can

2:02:27 ↗ incorporate into the next big update to

2:02:30 ↗ the

2:02:30 ↗ ciptip so i wanted to share that with

2:02:33 ↗ you and preview some of those changes

2:02:35 ↗ with you in response to some of the

2:02:36 ↗ feedback that we've heard

2:02:39 ↗ thank you very much i'll look forward to

2:02:41 ↗ reviewing that it's

2:02:44 ↗ going to be

2:02:45 ↗ nice to see how we try to incorporate

2:02:47 ↗ all these different elements that the

2:02:49 ↗ citizens have told us are important to

2:02:51 ↗ them so

2:02:53 ↗ before we

2:02:54 ↗ close the meeting i just as a point of

2:02:56 ↗ personal privilege like to thank the

2:02:58 ↗ council members for a good meeting where

2:03:01 ↗ we had a robust discussion i think the

2:03:03 ↗ committee

2:03:04 ↗ structure is designed so that we can

2:03:06 ↗ talk about these items in a little bit

2:03:08 ↗ more informal setting

2:03:10 ↗ hear comments from

2:03:12 ↗ citizens and be able to have a little

2:03:14 ↗ bit more of a conversation than we are

2:03:16 ↗ able to and some of the other more

2:03:17 ↗ formal beings so i appreciate your

2:03:19 ↗ willingness to uh uh have that uh

2:03:22 ↗ informal conversation i think it's gonna

2:03:24 ↗ be helpful for our work and helps the

2:03:26 ↗ citizens understand what we're doing and

2:03:29 ↗ the work that we're trying to move

2:03:30 ↗ forward so i appreciate your work

2:03:32 ↗ tonight

2:03:33 ↗ with that there's nothing else for the

2:03:35 ↗ good of the order we are adjourned

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