Environmental Board · Tuesday, April 5, 2022 · City Council Digest

1. CALL TO ORDER

Board Membership

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Staff report:

ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD Staff Liaison Stacy Vynne McKinstry, About Sustainability Manager Created in 2020, the objective of the Email Stacy Vynne McKinstry Environmental Board is to protect, preserve and enhance the natural environment and take Regular Members action on climate change to reduce its impacts 2022 - Dani Madan* by advising the Mayor, City Council and City 2022 - Don McQuilliams departments on the City’s plans, policies, 2023 - Rishi Hazra* regulations and programs related to 2023 - Cameron Fisher environmental stewardship. 2023 - Lara Lebeiko 2024 - Nancy Davidson Membership 2024 - Dan Hintz The Environmental Board is comprised of 2024 - Anne Newcomb nine regular members, and up to three 2025 – Jamie Finch alternates. All members are appointed by the Mayor and subject to confirmation by Alternate Members the City Council. Terms expire April 30 of 2022 - Tom Anderson the year…

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of Feb. 24, 2022

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Staff report:

**Please Note that the Joint Meeting Minutes are presented in the meeting minute format of the Planning Policy Commission**

Minutes of March 9, 2022

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Staff report:

MINUTES Special Joint Meeting ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD & PLANNING POLICY COMMISSION 6:30 p.m. -Wednesday, March 9, 2022

Minutes of March 10, 2022

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MINUTES Special Joint Meeting PLANNING POLICY COMMISSION & ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD 6:30 p.m. - Thursday, March 10, 2022

4. AGENDA ITEMS

Title 18 Review Process Discussion

Discussion · 20 min · Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager · packet pp.73–74

Topics: Land Use

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Staff report:

Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

5. REPORTS

Review 2022 Environmental Board Schedule Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager

5 min · packet pp.75–76

Topics: Climate

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Staff report:

2022 Environmental Board Schedule (tentative) All meetings are at 6:30 unless noted otherwise. (updated 3/30/22)

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0:06 ↗ great hi ann do you want to go ahead and

0:08 ↗ test your microphone

0:11 ↗ sure

0:12 ↗ all right we can hear you

0:16 ↗ all right uh we will kick off uh welcome

0:19 ↗ to the april 5th meeting of the

0:21 ↗ environmental board

0:23 ↗ i'm jamie finch and i'll be serving as

0:25 ↗ chair tonight um

0:27 ↗ due to the virtual format of today's

0:29 ↗ meeting i'd like to start providing some

0:31 ↗ guidelines we have some participants we

0:33 ↗ have participants attending by computer

0:34 ↗ and others who may be attending by phone

0:36 ↗ i know tonight we have just for

0:38 ↗ everyone's knowledge we do have lara at

0:40 ↗ least for part of the meeting we'll be

0:41 ↗ on phones she's actually

0:43 ↗ already on um and she'll be able to

0:45 ↗ unmute but you might not see her on your

0:47 ↗ screen

0:48 ↗ um

0:49 ↗ please make sure speak clearly and pause

0:51 ↗ frequently state your name each time

0:54 ↗ before speaking

0:55 ↗ mute your microphone when not speaking

0:57 ↗ if you have technical issues try joining

0:59 ↗ the meeting using a different device

1:01 ↗ or use the call and information in the

1:03 ↗ meeting invite to call into the meeting

1:06 ↗ as always please if you have indicated

1:08 ↗ desire to speak in the chat

1:11 ↗ laura i think uh if you press star three

1:13 ↗ that should raise your virtual hand so

1:15 ↗ that stacy will be able to see that

1:17 ↗ um and and also we can all uh check in

1:20 ↗ if there's ever time that uh

1:23 ↗ comments to make sure that there's

1:24 ↗ nothing that you want to share

1:26 ↗ if star 3 ends up being a challenge um

1:29 ↗ please don't put any substantive

1:30 ↗ comments in the chat um i think with

1:34 ↗ that

1:35 ↗ uh stacey if you wouldn't mind taking a

1:38 ↗ roll

1:40 ↗ thanks jamie um tom anderson

1:44 ↗ here

1:45 ↗ surya bala pragata she's working on

1:48 ↗ joining the webex it's just taking a

1:50 ↗ while for her to load she'll be on

1:51 ↗ shortly

1:53 ↗ nancy davidson

1:55 ↗ here

1:56 ↗ jamie finch

1:59 ↗ cameron fisher has an excused absence

2:03 ↗ rishi hashra

2:07 ↗ dan hintz has an excused absence

2:11 ↗ laura lebaico

2:12 ↗ i believe we have on the phone

2:15 ↗ yeah here

2:16 ↗ great danny madden

2:20 ↗ don mcwilliams

2:23 ↗ and newcomb

2:26 ↗ and janet wahl

2:30 ↗ right

2:34 ↗ thanks jamie

2:38 ↗ thank you stacy um

2:41 ↗ next up we have approval of the minutes

2:44 ↗ um

2:45 ↗ stacy quick question on this do you want

2:47 ↗ us to approve those individually or uh

2:51 ↗ do we want to ask for comments across

2:54 ↗ the different the three meetings that we

2:55 ↗ have here

2:58 ↗ um i think we can go through them

3:00 ↗ maybe as a packet

3:02 ↗ um i think that's fine

3:05 ↗ great well um does anyone have any

3:06 ↗ comments on the minutes from february

3:09 ↗ 24th 2022 march 9th 2022 or march 10

3:13 ↗ 2022 at this time

3:16 ↗ yeah i've got a couple of nits this is

3:18 ↗ tom anderson speaking

3:21 ↗ it's not worth mentioning but i'll

3:23 ↗ mention them anyway so on page nine for

3:25 ↗ the february 24 meeting sun river oregon

3:28 ↗ reference is made sun river is actually

3:30 ↗ one word not two words so it's just a

3:33 ↗ little

3:34 ↗ quirk there and then i had a question on

3:37 ↗ the march 9 meeting

3:39 ↗ i'm not listed as either attending or

3:42 ↗ absent

3:43 ↗ i don't know is that because i

3:46 ↗ was not well i was an alternate and not

3:50 ↗ needed or was that just an oversight

3:53 ↗ probably an oversight i'll get that to

3:55 ↗ the um ppc recorder thanks um

3:59 ↗ okay that's all i had

4:03 ↗ thank you tom any other comments from

4:06 ↗ anyone

4:10 ↗ all right well i think then

4:13 ↗ do we need to then take a vote on

4:14 ↗ whether we're they're approved as

4:17 ↗ as amended with tom's editions

4:21 ↗ okay

4:23 ↗ thank you and then stacy would you mind

4:25 ↗ taking us through that

4:27 ↗ um

4:28 ↗ process of just approving those

4:30 ↗ uh minutes uh with tom's amendments

4:33 ↗ yeah thanks i think typically we just

4:35 ↗ ask for if there's approval or any other

4:38 ↗ changes

4:40 ↗ nancy can correct us if you're wrong

4:42 ↗ sorry

4:43 ↗ lack of formality all right okay i'll

4:44 ↗ i'll help you out jamie so

4:47 ↗ just through this section and just so

4:49 ↗ you know i'll fess up i had surgery

4:51 ↗ yesterday so i'm not totally on top of

4:53 ↗ my game that's why i'm asking jamie to

4:54 ↗ step up on and take on so

4:57 ↗ just wanted to fess up to what's going

4:59 ↗ on with me um but jamie um

5:02 ↗ with no other comments um the minutes

5:04 ↗ will be approved as amended

5:07 ↗ great well then uh consider those uh

5:10 ↗ minutes approved as amended

5:12 ↗ um let's see i think next up

5:15 ↗ uh is public comments before i go

5:17 ↗ through

5:19 ↗ all of the uh

5:22 ↗ comments around that do we have anyone

5:23 ↗ either attempt like attending or that is

5:26 ↗ signed up to speak

5:27 ↗ yeah thank you we did receive one uh

5:30 ↗ written comment from susan neville

5:32 ↗ that's for

5:33 ↗ the discussion later on after john's

5:35 ↗ presentation today that was sent out to

5:38 ↗ the board and then we do have one member

5:40 ↗ of the public on the phone

5:42 ↗ um if you want to raise your hand if

5:45 ↗ you'd like to speak um or you can send

5:47 ↗ me a chat as well i know we've had some

5:49 ↗ issues with the hand raising feature

5:58 ↗ all right i don't see anything coming

5:59 ↗ through oh it looks like they do want to

6:02 ↗ speak i will go ahead and unmute you and

6:04 ↗ move you up to a panelist just one

6:06 ↗ moment connie

6:08 ↗ thanks stacy while you're going through

6:10 ↗ that i'll just provide some guidelines

6:11 ↗ for public comment

6:13 ↗ um public comments are an important part

6:14 ↗ of the public process we take them

6:16 ↗ seriously and factor them into the

6:17 ↗ decisions we make for the members of the

6:20 ↗ public joining us welcome if there is

6:21 ↗ anyone in the meeting now who would like

6:23 ↗ to make public comments we already know

6:24 ↗ that that's connie um

6:27 ↗ she's already indicated that interest um

6:30 ↗ and then i think uh when you have been

6:32 ↗ recognized just unmute your microphone

6:34 ↗ state name address and relationship to

6:36 ↗ the city speak clearly and pause

6:38 ↗ frequently and then please do limit

6:40 ↗ comments to five minutes and then get

6:42 ↗ your microphone when done and now i

6:44 ↗ think uh i will leave it to connie

6:46 ↗ great

6:48 ↗ okay

6:51 ↗ video's going

6:53 ↗ hi my name is connie marsh i live up on

6:55 ↗ squawk mountain and i'm assuming there's

6:58 ↗ only one public comment today so i'm

7:00 ↗ going to comment on both topics

7:04 ↗ one it's good to have the transportation

7:06 ↗ improvement program coming to this group

7:10 ↗ um

7:11 ↗ i think the most important thing to

7:13 ↗ focus on are the criteria for choosing

7:17 ↗ priorities for the projects right we've

7:19 ↗ never

7:21 ↗ used sort of a

7:22 ↗ climate environmental overlay for our

7:26 ↗ projects

7:27 ↗ and we have the complexity

7:29 ↗ between projects that we have adopted

7:32 ↗ that are very auto focused in a changing

7:35 ↗ world so some of my questions would be

7:39 ↗ on um

7:42 ↗ how many of these

7:43 ↗ road projects that are for cars

7:47 ↗ must

7:49 ↗ be done and then how can we make those

7:52 ↗ uh

7:54 ↗ be as

7:55 ↗ as least impactive as possible

7:58 ↗ and not just get more cars to come into

8:01 ↗ our town so

8:02 ↗ um

8:04 ↗ it's time to have that discussion about

8:06 ↗ single occupancy vehicles in our system

8:10 ↗ and what we can do about it and then the

8:12 ↗ next one is the title 18 and how all

8:16 ↗ that's going and i did have a chance to

8:18 ↗ read susan's

8:20 ↗ letter and and um

8:22 ↗ i agree with her comment

8:24 ↗ on the summaries that are being

8:27 ↗ presented

8:29 ↗ seem to actually be very different than

8:31 ↗ what's provided in the drafts

8:34 ↗ so

8:35 ↗ i that that conflict to me has made it

8:38 ↗ really hard to understand

8:40 ↗ what i'm supposed to be reading what i'm

8:42 ↗ supposed to be responding to do i just

8:45 ↗ totally ignore the code because they're

8:47 ↗ actually going to create code that goes

8:49 ↗ along with their summaries

8:51 ↗ so

8:52 ↗ i've done both because i'm crazy but if

8:56 ↗ i would ask for something it would be to

9:00 ↗ have a summary of the code language

9:03 ↗ that shows

9:06 ↗ what the intent is

9:08 ↗ and

9:09 ↗ what the results will be from that code

9:12 ↗ so you aren't

9:13 ↗ reading the language trying to figure

9:15 ↗ out well what the heck does this mean

9:17 ↗ they're telling you

9:19 ↗ what it's

9:20 ↗ supposed to do and what they expect it

9:23 ↗ to do

9:24 ↗ and then you could agree with what they

9:27 ↗ think it's supposed to

9:29 ↗ do

9:30 ↗ or not and then if you wanted to you

9:32 ↗ could read the language and see whether

9:33 ↗ you think that language will actually

9:36 ↗ get that done

9:38 ↗ but i think the presentation right now

9:40 ↗ has been code

9:42 ↗ and

9:43 ↗ and something sort of disconnected and

9:45 ↗ you need that center portion to make it

9:48 ↗ easier to understand without so much

9:50 ↗ like grueling code reading which to me

9:53 ↗ is candy but to most people is a form of

9:56 ↗ small hell

9:57 ↗ thank you

10:05 ↗ thank you connie do we have anyone else

10:07 ↗ that's indicated interest in speaking

10:09 ↗ stacy

10:10 ↗ no we don't have any other members of

10:12 ↗ the public on

10:14 ↗ great well i think with that we can

10:16 ↗ probably close public comment

10:19 ↗ next up we do have our agenda items

10:22 ↗ the first one being the transportation

10:24 ↗ improvement program overview and review

10:26 ↗ that will be presented by john mortensen

10:30 ↗ transportation engineering manager of

10:31 ↗ the city

10:32 ↗ so with that i will uh hand off to john

10:36 ↗ john one quick question while i do that

10:38 ↗ would you like us to hold questions to

10:41 ↗ the end or how would you like questions

10:42 ↗ to be asked throughout the process

10:45 ↗ i think just have people raise their

10:47 ↗ hands and let's answer them as we go

10:49 ↗ along just because there's

10:51 ↗ so much to cover that

10:53 ↗ if i were a board member i'd forget what

10:55 ↗ my questions were by the time we got to

10:56 ↗ the end

10:58 ↗ great thanks a lot

11:02 ↗ thanks jamie for that nice introduction

11:04 ↗ hello environmental board members thank

11:07 ↗ you for taking time out of your

11:09 ↗ tuesday evening to meet to talk about

11:11 ↗ the transportation improvement board

11:14 ↗ i've got a presentation and as we just

11:16 ↗ talked about

11:17 ↗ we'll just pause whenever someone has a

11:19 ↗ question and we can go over it at that

11:21 ↗ point

11:23 ↗ i'll go ahead and get my presentation

11:25 ↗ loaded up

11:27 ↗ share my screen

11:43 ↗ and quick question is it showing the

11:45 ↗ notes page or the presentation

11:49 ↗ you can share in the presentation you're

11:51 ↗ good okay

11:52 ↗ wonderful

11:56 ↗ i'm here to talk to you about the

11:58 ↗ transportation improvement program

12:00 ↗ before the years 2023 to 2028.

12:06 ↗ for the presentation tonight i'm going

12:07 ↗ to cover a number of things the first

12:09 ↗ one is

12:10 ↗ what is the transportation improvement

12:12 ↗ program and how does it relate to other

12:15 ↗ city plans like the comprehensive plan

12:17 ↗ the mobility master plan

12:20 ↗ or

12:20 ↗ now the climate action plan

12:23 ↗ i've got a little bit of information

12:25 ↗ that i researched to talk about

12:27 ↗ related to climate change and

12:29 ↗ transportation

12:32 ↗ and then

12:33 ↗ we can have a discussion after the

12:36 ↗ material but like i said we can have

12:37 ↗ questions to go along and then talk

12:40 ↗ about the next steps for the

12:41 ↗ transportation improvement program

12:45 ↗ the feedback that

12:47 ↗ i'm asking of the environmental board

12:49 ↗ are the first ones just ask questions

12:51 ↗ that you have about the transportation

12:53 ↗ improvement program and the second one

12:56 ↗ is what are the community values for

12:59 ↗ transportation

13:01 ↗ and the natural environment

13:06 ↗ transportation improvement program is a

13:09 ↗ six-year planning document

13:12 ↗ it is updated every year the city

13:17 ↗ prepares it

13:19 ↗ and oftentimes at the same time when we

13:22 ↗ prepare the capital improvement plan

13:25 ↗ but

13:26 ↗ it's something that

13:28 ↗ we'll talk about how it's a little bit

13:29 ↗ similar and different and it really

13:31 ↗ shows what are the funding sources and

13:33 ↗ expenses for transportation projects

13:36 ↗ over the six-year period

13:39 ↗ the requirements for the transportation

13:42 ↗ improvement

13:44 ↗ program are that it's consistent with

13:46 ↗ the city's comprehensive plan

13:49 ↗ and the city council needs to adopt it

13:51 ↗ after conducting a public hearing

13:55 ↗ and once it's been adopted by the city

13:58 ↗ council we file it with the state

14:00 ↗ secretary of transportation

14:05 ↗ the city's comprehensive plan

14:07 ↗ is

14:08 ↗ the

14:09 ↗ long-term planning document that the

14:10 ↗ city has

14:12 ↗ for the goals and objectives policies

14:15 ↗ actions and standards to guide the

14:17 ↗ day-to-day decisions

14:20 ↗ it's required by the city's growth

14:21 ↗ management or is required by the state's

14:24 ↗ growth management act it has a number of

14:26 ↗ elements that are required including the

14:29 ↗ transportation element

14:34 ↗ around 2019

14:36 ↗ until

14:38 ↗ march 2021 the city was working on

14:42 ↗ its mobility master plan and this was a

14:44 ↗ document to really guide our

14:46 ↗ transportation decisions

14:48 ↗ as well as be used to update the

14:50 ↗ transportation element of the

14:52 ↗ comprehensive plan

14:54 ↗ it was completed in 2020 adopted in

14:56 ↗ march of 2021

14:58 ↗ really focused on discipline now and

15:02 ↗ in the future preparing for growth

15:06 ↗ set policies and goals for the city's

15:09 ↗ transportation system and now that it's

15:13 ↗ been adopted we're in the process of

15:15 ↗ doing a number of things to implement

15:17 ↗ the mobility master plan

15:21 ↗ as i mentioned

15:22 ↗ the city updates the transportation

15:25 ↗ improvement program

15:26 ↗ every year

15:27 ↗ and a lot of times it's done at the same

15:29 ↗ time as when the city updates the

15:32 ↗ capital improvement plan i guess i

15:34 ↗ should say the capital improvement plan

15:36 ↗ gets updated every other year whereas

15:38 ↗ the transportation improvement program

15:39 ↗ gets updated every other year and i like

15:43 ↗ this exhibit because it shows

15:45 ↗ the comprehensive plan as the big circle

15:48 ↗ that

15:49 ↗ it really guides the decisions and then

15:53 ↗ but to feed into all these different

15:54 ↗ plans we have things like the parks

15:57 ↗ strategic plan

15:58 ↗ different

16:00 ↗ studies that we've done

16:02 ↗ the climate action plan that

16:04 ↗ i know a lot of you guys worked on

16:06 ↗ utility rate study through the utility

16:09 ↗ studies and those go into the capital

16:11 ↗ improvement plan and then one of the

16:13 ↗ chapters in the capital improvement plan

16:15 ↗ is the transportation

16:17 ↗ improvement program

16:20 ↗ i mentioned that we're in the process of

16:23 ↗ implementing the mobility master plan

16:26 ↗ number of things that the city

16:28 ↗ is doing to implement it is we're

16:31 ↗ updating our street standards

16:34 ↗ to incorporate some of the

16:38 ↗ more multimodal

16:40 ↗ vision that we got out of the mobility

16:42 ↗ master plan

16:44 ↗ we are

16:46 ↗ incorporating the

16:48 ↗ project criteria into the transportation

16:52 ↗ improvement program so that way as we

16:54 ↗ start looking at new projects to work on

16:58 ↗ that we're considering the guiding

17:00 ↗ principles from the mobility master plan

17:03 ↗ another thing that we're working on to

17:05 ↗ implement though is to continue the

17:06 ↗ projects that began

17:08 ↗ before the mobility master plan that a

17:10 ↗ lot of work went into those and we're

17:12 ↗ going to continue

17:14 ↗ designing and constructing those

17:15 ↗ projects but as

17:18 ↗ we get those projects done we're also

17:20 ↗ going to be pursuing the city will be

17:22 ↗ pursuing new priority projects

17:26 ↗ that align with the guiding principles

17:28 ↗ from the mobility master plan

17:32 ↗ so as we look at the projects that go

17:34 ↗ into the transportation improvement

17:36 ↗ program

17:38 ↗ i like to divide it up into several

17:40 ↗ buckets the first one is annual projects

17:42 ↗ and i'll go into some of those examples

17:44 ↗ but those are projects that we do on a

17:47 ↗ yearly basis they're

17:49 ↗ more of program they're projects but

17:51 ↗ they're kind of like programs

17:53 ↗ i mentioned the program the projects

17:54 ↗ that are underway

17:56 ↗ we'll talk some about those

17:58 ↗ there's also mandated projects where

18:01 ↗ maybe it's a retaining wall that needs

18:03 ↗ to be repaired or a bridge that we need

18:05 ↗ to do a seismic retrofit for

18:08 ↗ or a landslide that needs repair that i

18:10 ↗ call those

18:11 ↗ mandated projects they're projects that

18:13 ↗ the city really just needs to get done

18:16 ↗ and then

18:18 ↗ the

18:19 ↗ new priority projects

18:21 ↗ are the other ones that we look to put

18:23 ↗ into the transportation improvement

18:25 ↗ program

18:28 ↗ and the bucket of projects underway got

18:30 ↗ several of them that we're working on

18:33 ↗ first one is newport way between sr 900

18:36 ↗ and 54th that's a project that will be

18:41 ↗ actually that's the project in the

18:43 ↗ picture here it'll be adding bike lanes

18:45 ↗ making intersection improvements doing

18:48 ↗ things to calm traffic and slow speeds

18:52 ↗ illumination

18:54 ↗ sidewalk

18:55 ↗ and then a shared youth used path that

18:58 ↗ will eventually become part of the

19:00 ↗ mountains to sound greenway corridor

19:02 ↗ trail

19:04 ↗ another project that we've been working

19:06 ↗ on for a number of years is the newport

19:08 ↗ way between

19:09 ↗ maple and sunset

19:11 ↗ this is a project that

19:14 ↗ will construct

19:15 ↗ facilities for pedestrians bicycles

19:19 ↗ it does have three roundabouts at

19:22 ↗ the intersections of newport way

19:24 ↗ and juniper's the first one hawley and

19:27 ↗ newport's the second one and the third

19:29 ↗ one is at dogwood in newport

19:31 ↗ it'll construct a second southbound lane

19:34 ↗ that'll go from

19:36 ↗ maple to 900 feet south of hawley

19:44 ↗ and that project is

19:45 ↗ currently in the design phase

19:48 ↗ the third project that is a

19:49 ↗ transportation improvement program

19:51 ↗ project that's been underway is the

19:53 ↗ northwestern amish road non-motorized

19:56 ↗ project that's a project that will

19:59 ↗ build non-motorized facilities

20:02 ↗ from

20:03 ↗ the neighborhoods south of lake

20:05 ↗ sammamish to the lake samamish state

20:07 ↗ park

20:09 ↗ and

20:10 ↗ that's one that

20:11 ↗ we began earlier we've been doing some

20:13 ↗ of the topographic surveying and wetland

20:15 ↗ delineation but we're going to start

20:17 ↗ doing a lot of public involvement to

20:19 ↗ shape what the typical section and the

20:22 ↗ details of what that project will

20:24 ↗ actually

20:25 ↗ improve and it'll be a very high

20:27 ↗ priority project to make

20:30 ↗ progress on

20:31 ↗ another project that's been underway is

20:33 ↗ the

20:34 ↗ traffic signal poles in the squad

20:36 ↗ highlands that we're working to get

20:38 ↗ those repainted it's going to be broken

20:40 ↗ up into several years of getting it

20:42 ↗ repainted but i believe that project

20:44 ↗ recently bid for construction for this

20:46 ↗ year

20:47 ↗ and

20:48 ↗ then the final one that's currently

20:50 ↗ underway is some improvements on gilman

20:52 ↗ way

20:53 ↗ and this is a project it's in the

20:55 ↗ planning phase where

20:57 ↗ we began before the pandemic

21:00 ↗ where we came up with a framework for

21:02 ↗ what we'd like to do and then the next

21:04 ↗ step is to come up with a preferred

21:06 ↗ concept for what gilman

21:08 ↗ northwest gilman boulevard will look

21:10 ↗ like

21:13 ↗ the

21:14 ↗ projects that get put under the category

21:17 ↗ of annual projects

21:19 ↗ those are ones like our annual ada

21:21 ↗ improvement program where the city

21:24 ↗ puts out a contract

21:27 ↗ to improve curb ramps and i'm going to

21:29 ↗ pause because i see that there's a

21:30 ↗ question

21:32 ↗ yeah thanks john i was going to jump in

21:34 ↗ um rishi you have a question go ahead

21:36 ↗ i was wondering um on the previous slide

21:38 ↗ if you could clarify what non-motorized

21:41 ↗ improvements like would look like

21:45 ↗ sure

21:46 ↗ well

21:48 ↗ there's a variety of different

21:50 ↗ of what it could look like

21:52 ↗ but generally when we're looking at

21:54 ↗ non-motorized considering facilities for

21:56 ↗ bicycles and pedestrians

21:58 ↗ it could be

22:00 ↗ on street painted bike lanes protected

22:02 ↗ bike lanes

22:04 ↗ a shared use path

22:06 ↗ those are some of the

22:08 ↗ possible

22:10 ↗ ones sidewalk

22:12 ↗ if we're talking about the northwest

22:13 ↗ sammamish road project

22:15 ↗ my best guess would be a shared use path

22:18 ↗ and maybe

22:19 ↗ painted bike lanes but i don't want to

22:21 ↗ get too far ahead of the public

22:22 ↗ involvement process

22:24 ↗ did that answer your question

22:27 ↗ yes thank you

22:29 ↗ yeah thanks for asking

22:33 ↗ for the annual projects

22:36 ↗ talked a little bit about the ada

22:38 ↗ improvement project and

22:41 ↗ that's an important project because

22:45 ↗ said

22:46 ↗ a lot of the

22:48 ↗ sidewalks that are inside of the public

22:50 ↗ right-of-way are inaccessible to

22:54 ↗ pedestrians with disabilities especially

22:56 ↗ mobility disabilities and so in

22:59 ↗ situations where we don't have a curb

23:00 ↗ ramp or maybe we have a curb ramp that's

23:03 ↗ too steep

23:05 ↗ that we have an annual project to go

23:06 ↗ through and upgrade those but there's

23:08 ↗ also other things that we do

23:10 ↗ at our traffic signals where there's

23:12 ↗ pedestrian push buttons

23:14 ↗ that

23:15 ↗ we upgrade those so that way they're

23:17 ↗ audible and will

23:19 ↗ talk to pedestrians in if you're ever at

23:22 ↗ a newer intersection and you push the

23:24 ↗ pedestrian push button you hold it for

23:26 ↗ about two or three seconds it'll

23:28 ↗ actually start talking to you and that

23:30 ↗ is something that

23:32 ↗ can help visually impaired pedestrians

23:34 ↗ out

23:35 ↗ another thing that we do

23:37 ↗ for ada

23:39 ↗ improvements is the pedestrian countdown

23:42 ↗ heads

23:43 ↗ we put in or we put in countdown heads

23:45 ↗ so it'll actually show a pedestrian how

23:48 ↗ long they have to finish crossing the

23:50 ↗ street

23:52 ↗ the pavement management program is the

23:54 ↗ annual project where the city

23:57 ↗ hires a contractor or different

23:59 ↗ contractors to care for the pavement

24:02 ↗ they'll do things like overlay the

24:04 ↗ streets fill up fill in the cracks

24:07 ↗ as well as

24:09 ↗ other kind of surface treatments but

24:11 ↗ it's really just trying to preserve

24:14 ↗ the existing pavement

24:16 ↗ in addition to that we have a

24:18 ↗ annual concrete maintenance program

24:20 ↗ question from

24:22 ↗ don um it's all right uh don please go

24:25 ↗ ahead

24:26 ↗ sorry to interrupt john um on your

24:28 ↗ pavement management program do you

24:30 ↗ coordinate that with your other

24:32 ↗ departments like utilities to make sure

24:33 ↗ the underground repairs get done ahead

24:35 ↗ of that so you don't end up cutting the

24:37 ↗ road up after you pave it

24:39 ↗ yes yeah there's a lot of coordination

24:41 ↗ that goes on

24:43 ↗ for the pavement management program and

24:46 ↗ a lot of times we definitely it's very

24:49 ↗ desirable to get those utilities done so

24:51 ↗ like for example in the neighborhood

24:54 ↗ south of like sammamish a lot of times

24:57 ↗ the water line has there's a lot of

24:59 ↗ water line replacement work and then

25:01 ↗ once that's done we'll follow up by

25:03 ↗ doing an overlay

25:05 ↗ and

25:06 ↗ coordination also with different

25:07 ↗ development because if we know a

25:09 ↗ developer is coming in and going to be

25:10 ↗ doing a bunch of

25:12 ↗ trenching

25:13 ↗ that street might get skipped and go on

25:16 ↗ to a different one

25:18 ↗ thank you

25:19 ↗ yeah

25:20 ↗ for the concrete maintenance program

25:22 ↗ very similar to the pavement management

25:24 ↗ program

25:25 ↗ where

25:27 ↗ it'll take care of the concrete that

25:28 ↗ just needs to be repaired and some of

25:30 ↗ the things that

25:31 ↗ the city looks at are

25:34 ↗ curb next to a road that's in poor

25:36 ↗ condition that needs to be repaired or

25:38 ↗ sidewalk

25:39 ↗ or

25:40 ↗ another one is where we have street

25:42 ↗ trees right next to the sidewalk

25:45 ↗ a lot of times the street trees were

25:47 ↗ planted before we knew as much about

25:49 ↗ what we know now

25:50 ↗ and the roots from the trees

25:54 ↗ are causing the sidewalk panels to have

25:56 ↗ discontinuities

25:59 ↗ and it creates a tripping hazard and so

26:02 ↗ we can hire a contractor to come through

26:04 ↗ and

26:05 ↗ grind the smooth and

26:07 ↗ help make it a safer and more accessible

26:10 ↗ sidewalk

26:12 ↗ we also have this program this project

26:14 ↗ called the small strategic capital

26:15 ↗ project

26:17 ↗ when the city did the strategic plan one

26:19 ↗ of the things that the city looked at

26:22 ↗ was

26:24 ↗ or one of the things that came out of it

26:26 ↗ is a lot of times we try and do these

26:28 ↗ big transportation projects like the

26:29 ↗ recently completed southeast 62nd street

26:32 ↗ project and a lot of the feedback that

26:34 ↗ we heard from the community was

26:36 ↗ that's great but there's a lot of small

26:40 ↗ smaller scale connections that the city

26:42 ↗ can be doing and so this project was

26:44 ↗ created

26:45 ↗ it last year was the first year for it

26:48 ↗ and we used the funds from last year to

26:52 ↗ design improvements that will be

26:53 ↗ constructed this year

27:00 ↗ the category of mandated

27:01 ↗ responsibilities is

27:04 ↗ something that a lot of our annual

27:06 ↗ projects whether it's the pavement

27:08 ↗ management or the ada

27:11 ↗ improvement project

27:13 ↗ really a lot of the same projects follow

27:14 ↗ under the these categories so

27:17 ↗ but some of the nuance differences are

27:19 ↗ like slide repair projects so

27:22 ↗ in the year 2000 and earlier this year

27:25 ↗ we've had a couple slides on newport way

27:28 ↗ near the king county trailhead so we're

27:29 ↗ actually designing a retaining wall to

27:32 ↗ mitigate the landslide

27:35 ↗ and help protect the road

27:37 ↗ i threw this picture into the

27:39 ↗ presentation it is a picture of

27:42 ↗ the gilman bridge that goes over front

27:44 ↗ street

27:45 ↗ and right now we're actually working

27:47 ↗ with a structural engineer to

27:49 ↗ put together a potential bridge

27:51 ↗ application

27:52 ↗ to try and get funds to do a seismic

27:54 ↗ retrofit

27:55 ↗ on this bridge

27:57 ↗ and one really cool thing about this

28:00 ↗ bridge

28:01 ↗ is

28:02 ↗ and it's i believe the city's oldest

28:04 ↗ bridge is built in 1940

28:07 ↗ the engineer who designed it is

28:10 ↗ i want to say it's lacie b murrow

28:12 ↗ who if you've ever gone over the i-90

28:15 ↗ floating bridge

28:16 ↗ that bridge is named after the engineer

28:19 ↗ who designed this bridge for the city of

28:20 ↗ esqua

28:22 ↗ it's also the older brother of the

28:24 ↗ famous broadcaster edward r murrow

28:26 ↗ something that i found out while working

28:28 ↗ on our grant application and evaluating

28:31 ↗ this bridge

28:36 ↗ the final category that i have is

28:39 ↗ the new priority projects and

28:42 ↗ those are ones that we're looking at

28:44 ↗ based on the criteria in the mobility

28:46 ↗ master plan and the guiding principles

28:49 ↗ that

28:51 ↗ represent the community's values but

28:54 ↗ sometimes there are obstacles to what we

28:56 ↗ can and can't get done for the new

28:58 ↗ priority projects

29:00 ↗ and some of the obstacles are funding we

29:02 ↗ just don't have enough projects we'll

29:04 ↗ never have enough funds to do what we

29:05 ↗ want to do

29:06 ↗ staff capacity

29:09 ↗ as staff we wish we could do this much

29:10 ↗ but in reality we have this much

29:12 ↗ capacity to get things done

29:14 ↗ and then sometimes just working through

29:16 ↗ conflicts that

29:18 ↗ with ongoing projects

29:20 ↗ we're working on something just

29:23 ↗ don't have the ability to get to some of

29:26 ↗ the new priority projects but we are

29:27 ↗ trying to work those in

29:32 ↗ um

29:33 ↗ this is jamie i had one question um

29:36 ↗ and i know you're going to cover some of

29:38 ↗ these criteria here i think one of the

29:40 ↗ things that i'd be really interested in

29:41 ↗ is

29:42 ↗ i know we have a lot of like

29:44 ↗ you just went through mandated

29:45 ↗ responsibilities things that are already

29:46 ↗ in flight projects that we're committed

29:48 ↗ to in some respects

29:50 ↗ um is it possible to provide a rough

29:52 ↗ breakdown of

29:54 ↗ kind of the

29:55 ↗ within the tip how broad like how many

29:58 ↗ projects are in each one of these

29:59 ↗ budgets or buckets and the amount of

30:02 ↗ funds

30:03 ↗ the percentage of funds that would be

30:05 ↗ allocated in a given year

30:07 ↗ between those categories

30:09 ↗ sure

30:10 ↗ um

30:12 ↗ so what i could do jamie is i could load

30:14 ↗ up the

30:17 ↗ 2022 to 2027 transportation improvement

30:20 ↗ program and

30:23 ↗ i could actually just talk through those

30:24 ↗ and

30:26 ↗ let me just stop the powerpoint

30:29 ↗ and

30:30 ↗ set up for you

30:46 ↗ give me a minute and i'll get this

30:48 ↗ loaded

30:54 ↗ while you're doing that john i can just

30:56 ↗ let folks know rishi and syria have been

30:58 ↗ able to join us and it looks like

30:59 ↗ laura's been able to move over from her

31:01 ↗ phone to the webex

31:24 ↗ okay this is the transportation

31:27 ↗ improvement program that was adopted by

31:29 ↗ the city council

31:31 ↗ last spring as part of the adoption of

31:34 ↗ the capital improvement

31:36 ↗ plan

31:38 ↗ and so i'll kind of go through

31:40 ↗ what are these categories these projects

31:42 ↗ fall under and i'm actually going to

31:44 ↗ work my way from bottom to top

31:47 ↗ this gives it i think it'd be a little

31:48 ↗ bit easier

31:49 ↗ the first one is the sunset way

31:52 ↗ landslide

31:54 ↗ project repair project so this one would

31:56 ↗ be

32:12 ↗ yes i'll i'll go ahead and check in with

32:15 ↗ john

32:17 ↗ on the chat real quick

32:20 ↗ it's a

32:26 ↗ small strategic capital project that is

32:28 ↗ an annual project that we have

32:39 ↗ it does appear that you're back

32:41 ↗ uh oh john you lost you for a second

32:43 ↗ we're seeing your chat

32:46 ↗ that was interesting because i heard

32:47 ↗ stacy say i'm gonna check on john i

32:49 ↗ could see all of you guys moving but

32:51 ↗ must have just not been uploading on my

32:53 ↗ end

32:54 ↗ yeah your chat is up john okay

32:57 ↗ there we go

32:58 ↗ all right and i think i lost your video

33:01 ↗ just like

33:09 ↗ all right i i actually shut off your

33:11 ↗ video john but i think we can hear you

33:13 ↗ i'll go ahead and work on that and get

33:14 ↗ your video back up

33:16 ↗ okay

33:18 ↗ all right

33:19 ↗ the highland signal painting poll

33:21 ↗ project that is

33:23 ↗ a mandated responsibility as long as as

33:25 ↗ well as the concrete repair

33:28 ↗ the intelligent transportation system

33:31 ↗ program

33:32 ↗ that is

33:38 ↗ not quite sure what category it

33:41 ↗ i i would say it came out of the

33:43 ↗ mobility master plan so a

33:46 ↗ a new priority project but

33:50 ↗ uh

33:51 ↗ i don't know how well it scored on it

33:53 ↗ but that

33:54 ↗ king on

33:55 ↗ trying to do smarter things with their

33:56 ↗ traffic signal came out of the mobility

33:58 ↗ master plan

34:00 ↗ the

34:01 ↗ newport way

34:04 ↗ project in front of tibbetts valley park

34:06 ↗ that's between sr 912

34:08 ↗ the bicycle improvement project

34:11 ↗ bicycle pedestrian project that is one

34:14 ↗ that

34:15 ↗ was a new priority project although

34:18 ↗ we showed working on it that assumed

34:20 ↗ grant that we did not apply for

34:24 ↗ the

34:25 ↗ festival streets those are ongoing

34:27 ↗ projects that the city has been working

34:29 ↗ on

34:30 ↗ the city did a streetscape project

34:33 ↗ concept back in 2017

34:36 ↗ and

34:39 ↗ we went slowly as with the city's had

34:41 ↗ money

34:43 ↗ upgrading

34:44 ↗ front street and alder street

34:47 ↗ to go along with this concept that we

34:49 ↗ came up with the black nugget retaining

34:52 ↗ wall that was a project that was

34:54 ↗ originally a mandated responsibility

34:56 ↗ however we had a geotechnical engineer

34:59 ↗ look at it and we don't think we need to

35:01 ↗ do that project at this point so that's

35:04 ↗ one of the changes i anticipate from

35:07 ↗ the

35:08 ↗ updated transportation improvement

35:10 ↗ program

35:12 ↗ the pavement management program that's

35:16 ↗ mandated and annual

35:18 ↗ the northwest samamish road

35:20 ↗ non-motorized project

35:22 ↗ ongoing project

35:25 ↗ the juniper street improvement that was

35:29 ↗ a new priority project although

35:32 ↗ that was one we put in the

35:33 ↗ transportation improvement program

35:34 ↗ although talking to the transportation

35:36 ↗ advisory board

35:44 ↗ they

35:47 ↗ recommended not having that project in

35:50 ↗ the transportation improvement program

35:52 ↗ so

35:53 ↗ that that's another one that we're going

35:54 ↗ to probably change as we update the

35:56 ↗ transportation improvement program the

35:58 ↗ two projects on newport way maple to

36:00 ↗ sunset and sr 900 those are ongoing as

36:04 ↗ well as gilman

36:06 ↗ and the ada improvement project

36:09 ↗ mentioned that one

36:11 ↗ so that one's the annual project

36:14 ↗ the 12th and sr 900 project that is

36:18 ↗ first 17th or sr 900 is where the

36:21 ↗ what used to be the holiday inn and pcc

36:24 ↗ it's one of three projects as part of

36:26 ↗ the costco development agreement to add

36:28 ↗ a second left turn lane

36:29 ↗ onto 12

36:31 ↗ and to add a right turn lane onto 17

36:33 ↗ through sr 900 so that was an ongoing

36:36 ↗ project and then the the final one up

36:39 ↗ there is

36:40 ↗ uh to construct a new crossing of i-90

36:45 ↗ somewhere

36:46 ↗ between 12th or

36:49 ↗ 10th and in that vicinity and

36:53 ↗ i would call that a new priority project

36:56 ↗ although i don't know how well it scored

36:57 ↗ with the mobility master plan but in

36:59 ↗ terms of the development of central s

37:01 ↗ quad is a a very important project and

37:06 ↗ so then in terms of

37:10 ↗ when we look at

37:11 ↗ the dollar values for all of these a lot

37:13 ↗ of the existing projects are ones that

37:17 ↗ have the highest dollar figures because

37:20 ↗ they can use traffic impact fees which

37:22 ↗ we'll talk about later as well as their

37:24 ↗ projects that we've gotten grants for

37:26 ↗ which make them bigger projects

37:28 ↗ so in term i guess in terms of magnitude

37:31 ↗ the biggest would be the ongoing

37:33 ↗ projects

37:34 ↗ the annual and the mandated projects are

37:37 ↗ probably in the next category

37:39 ↗ and

37:40 ↗ the new priority projects with the

37:42 ↗ exception the i-90 crossing which is

37:44 ↗ just a massive project

37:46 ↗ those are the ones that i think will be

37:49 ↗ smaller in dollars but as the

37:51 ↗ transportation improvement program

37:54 ↗ evolves and we complete more projects

37:57 ↗ i look to see

37:59 ↗ mobility master plan priority projects

38:01 ↗ take up a much larger share of the

38:04 ↗ transportation improvement program did

38:06 ↗ that help answer your question

38:08 ↗ thanks and yeah that last point that you

38:09 ↗ hit on i was just curious i mean

38:11 ↗ obviously transportation projects are

38:13 ↗ long often take a long time and the

38:15 ↗ mobility master plan was just something

38:17 ↗ that was recently adopted so it was

38:19 ↗ curious on

38:20 ↗ what we had already already kind of

38:21 ↗ loaded versus what was coming in um next

38:24 ↗ and then

38:25 ↗ so thank you uh and then i believe nancy

38:28 ↗ has a question

38:32 ↗ thank you i have uh two questions for

38:35 ↗ you

38:36 ↗ first one is you talked about mandated

38:38 ↗ responsibility projects

38:40 ↗ and i don't understand what that means

38:42 ↗ in terms of looking at this program

38:44 ↗ specifically you reference the black

38:46 ↗ nugget road retaining wall

38:48 ↗ and how that was a mandated

38:50 ↗ responsibility but then it no longer is

38:53 ↗ i don't understand what a mandated

38:55 ↗ responsibility project is can you help

38:57 ↗ me with that one oh good question i

38:59 ↗ should have explained that better

39:01 ↗ so

39:03 ↗ originally we thought that that

39:05 ↗ retaining wall was going

39:07 ↗ not that it would i don't want to say

39:09 ↗ that it would fail but it was one that

39:12 ↗ we felt like was at the end of its life

39:14 ↗ and needed to be replaced in order to

39:18 ↗ have a safe road to drive up and so from

39:22 ↗ a safety point of view

39:24 ↗ wanting to make sure that that

39:26 ↗ retaining mole

39:27 ↗ would hold up during a seismic event

39:30 ↗ and

39:31 ↗ we had reason to believe that it

39:33 ↗ wouldn't hold up during a seismic event

39:35 ↗ and so that's why i put under the

39:37 ↗ mandated responsibilities of we need to

39:39 ↗ take care of it that way if there is a

39:42 ↗ seismic event

39:44 ↗ we're not going to have

39:47 ↗ the the whole hillside

39:49 ↗ wipe out the road and into the back of

39:51 ↗ fred meyer

39:59 ↗ sorry if you weren't finished i didn't

40:00 ↗ mean to interrupt

40:02 ↗ no no problem and then what we did is

40:05 ↗ last fall there was a grant

40:08 ↗ that fema had and we wanted to look to

40:10 ↗ see if that project would be a

40:13 ↗ a good candidate for us we hired a

40:14 ↗ geotechnical and engineer who did a much

40:17 ↗ more thorough investigation

40:19 ↗ and determined that at this point we

40:22 ↗ don't need to replace that ball because

40:24 ↗ it will hold up during the seismic event

40:26 ↗ that they looked at

40:29 ↗ great

40:30 ↗ all right i have two more questions for

40:32 ↗ you okay

40:33 ↗ in the early 2000s um the city voted in

40:38 ↗ to tax itself for uh intelligent

40:40 ↗ transportation system tax uh to develop

40:43 ↗ one and to install it

40:45 ↗ is that no longer being used or is it

40:47 ↗ out of date or why are we seeing it on

40:49 ↗ the cip again or the tip excuse me

40:52 ↗ sure

40:54 ↗ yeah so what happened is the city put

40:57 ↗ together an its plan

40:59 ↗ back

41:00 ↗ then

41:03 ↗ the voters passed funding and then we

41:05 ↗ built the projects but just like our

41:08 ↗ telephones have evolved

41:10 ↗ where we went from

41:13 ↗ having flip phones to

41:15 ↗ really smart computers that are maps and

41:19 ↗ do all kinds of stuff allow us to join

41:21 ↗ webex meetings

41:23 ↗ the the signal the technology for

41:25 ↗ traffic signals has changed and so we're

41:28 ↗ in this first year

41:30 ↗ of the program we're looking at

41:32 ↗ what are the different technologies

41:35 ↗ and how can we implement technologies to

41:38 ↗ whether it's to improve traffic flow or

41:40 ↗ to evaluate near-miss collisions but

41:43 ↗ it's taking the next step of saying

41:46 ↗ we did what we did back then what can we

41:49 ↗ do now with the new technology

41:52 ↗ great

41:53 ↗ and then my last question for you is you

41:55 ↗ talked about the 12th avenue left turn

41:57 ↗ lane and that it was part of the costco

42:00 ↗ development agreement therefore i'm

42:02 ↗ asking is costco paying for it

42:04 ↗ yes they are paying for

42:07 ↗ 48

42:09 ↗ of that project

42:11 ↗ that's an interesting number

42:15 ↗ yeah they there's a master development

42:18 ↗ agreement that the city and costco

42:20 ↗ executed which allows costco to expand

42:22 ↗ their campus by

42:25 ↗ 1.5 million square feet

42:28 ↗ and there's a whole bunch of details and

42:30 ↗ i've only read the part about

42:32 ↗ transportation and so when the city

42:34 ↗ widened east lake samamish parkway

42:36 ↗ adding the

42:38 ↗ additional

42:39 ↗ southbound lane that went from 56th

42:42 ↗ and then all the way to squat fall city

42:44 ↗ road they paid for 56 or 48 of that road

42:48 ↗ and they paid for 48

42:51 ↗ of the southeast 62nd street extension

42:54 ↗ project

42:55 ↗ and then 48 of them

42:58 ↗ both in sr 900 turn lane project

43:03 ↗ thank you very much appreciate your

43:04 ↗ answers

43:09 ↗ thank you nancy um laura you have a

43:11 ↗ question

43:15 ↗ hi there can you hear me okay

43:17 ↗ yeah before i go on all right great

43:20 ↗ um thank you for all this work

43:22 ↗ it's exciting to see how much detail

43:25 ↗ you guys have to manage like such big

43:27 ↗ picture things and such

43:29 ↗ little details like where the sidewalks

43:31 ↗ go and where's the turn lane um so i

43:33 ↗ have a question and then i'll have a

43:34 ↗ follow-up question but can you tell me

43:36 ↗ where where does environment fit into

43:39 ↗ this

43:40 ↗ given that that's sort of our charge

43:42 ↗ um

43:43 ↗ where

43:45 ↗ because i see a lot about costs but i'm

43:46 ↗ not sure about what that means for the

43:49 ↗ bigger picture of like the the climate

43:51 ↗ issues we're looking to address

43:53 ↗ sure let me i'm going to go back to my

43:55 ↗ presentation

44:21 ↗ okay are you able to see the powerpoint

44:24 ↗ and i'll go ahead and switch see black

44:26 ↗ screen

44:28 ↗ it's it looks like it's loading

44:35 ↗ is it not showing it

44:39 ↗ it says it's starting to share content i

44:41 ↗ might just need a minute

44:43 ↗ okay

44:52 ↗ and the presentation is now up but it is

44:55 ↗ in the notes view

44:57 ↗ okay let me spot that

45:09 ↗ you're good

45:10 ↗ okay

45:12 ↗ so the

45:15 ↗ to answer your question how does the

45:18 ↗ actually can you repeat your question i

45:20 ↗ want to make sure i accurately answer it

45:24 ↗ sure i'm trying to follow um

45:26 ↗ how this fits into like our scope of

45:28 ↗ what we're charged with looking at and

45:30 ↗ addressing um and want to make sure i'm

45:32 ↗ not

45:33 ↗ misinterpreting how this fits in because

45:35 ↗ i know you're saying there's the big

45:36 ↗ plan and then the annual plan

45:39 ↗ yep so i would say for two ways

45:42 ↗ the first one is as we evaluate projects

45:45 ↗ we have

45:47 ↗ a category inside the mobility master

45:49 ↗ plan

45:50 ↗ called promote environment and

45:53 ↗ so as we look at that part

45:56 ↗ i think that's something that

45:58 ↗ definitely involves the environmental

46:00 ↗ board the other part is

46:03 ↗ when i read the

46:04 ↗ esqua municipal code for

46:07 ↗ the duties and responsibilities

46:09 ↗ that

46:11 ↗ the

46:13 ↗ environmental board

46:15 ↗ is responsible and i don't remember the

46:16 ↗ exact words but let me go back in my

46:19 ↗ presentation to the feedback requested

46:23 ↗ to review the transportation improvement

46:25 ↗ program

46:27 ↗ for the community values and the natural

46:29 ↗ environment and so that's where that

46:31 ↗ question really came down to

46:33 ↗ is

46:34 ↗ in the duties and responsibilities for

46:36 ↗ the environmental board it specifically

46:39 ↗ wants the environmental board to provide

46:41 ↗ feedback on the community values or the

46:45 ↗ natural environment as it relates to the

46:47 ↗ transportation improvement program

46:53 ↗ so in other words it's kind of broad for

46:56 ↗ us to give you general feedback

46:58 ↗ so i'll give you a little feedback

46:59 ↗ thoughts and you can tell me to feel

47:01 ↗ free to tell me to stop at any time but

47:03 ↗ um

47:04 ↗ i think

47:05 ↗ something we asked for in the climate

47:07 ↗ action plan that i think i would like to

47:09 ↗ see here moving forward

47:11 ↗ is um

47:14 ↗ we talk a lot like there's a lot of

47:15 ↗ discussion all these details um are

47:17 ↗ super helpful for the projects we're

47:19 ↗ doing but it's only focused on cost and

47:22 ↗ the cost of environmental damage from

47:24 ↗ transportation is the highest of all

47:25 ↗ categories so i think we need to start

47:28 ↗ being transparent about the impact that

47:29 ↗ this has directly on

47:31 ↗ our environment and climate so if that's

47:34 ↗ going to be how many cars

47:36 ↗ but i think just even tying it back to

47:38 ↗ estimated greenhouse gas emissions

47:40 ↗ because when you start breaking them out

47:42 ↗ helping costco build

47:44 ↗ a turn lane doesn't have the same impact

47:46 ↗ as putting in a bike lane and making

47:48 ↗ issaquah more accessible i'm not saying

47:50 ↗ that that is a fault or an oversight of

47:52 ↗ your team but i think that for

47:54 ↗ transparency back to us and to the

47:56 ↗ public and to keeping it top of mind the

47:57 ↗ impact of climate that if you can just

48:00 ↗ tie that back to those emissions targets

48:02 ↗ um that would be helpful i don't know i

48:04 ↗ mean i don't the specifics of what's

48:05 ↗ easiest for you i don't want to make

48:07 ↗ extra work but i do want to keep it top

48:08 ↗ of mind for our community that all of

48:11 ↗ these initiatives are still not

48:13 ↗ prioritizing

48:15 ↗ um

48:15 ↗ accessibility enough which we all know

48:18 ↗ but i think it's important to keep it

48:19 ↗ visible um the other thought

48:22 ↗ is just for

48:23 ↗ as a genetic khan would say you know you

48:26 ↗ if you make a city for cars you get cars

48:28 ↗ if you make a city for people you get

48:29 ↗ people so i would like to see us

48:32 ↗ planning for

48:33 ↗ doing smaller initiatives which is

48:35 ↗ probably somewhat out of your realm but

48:37 ↗ smaller initiatives like just closing

48:39 ↗ different lanes down to make them

48:40 ↗ walkable like closing streets down for

48:42 ↗ more

48:43 ↗ lower cost but faster implementation to

48:47 ↗ help the community realize how

48:48 ↗ accessible we can be

48:50 ↗ when we make more space for us to walk

48:52 ↗ and ride and take buses so things like

48:55 ↗ that that prioritize more community

48:57 ↗ access and community gathering over

49:01 ↗ street improvements i think will be

49:02 ↗ helpful and again i think that just goes

49:03 ↗ back to making

49:04 ↗ um

49:05 ↗ climate and environment more about

49:08 ↗ like if our transportation needs to be

49:10 ↗ about environment and not just about um

49:12 ↗ you know

49:14 ↗ providing ways to get from a to b

49:16 ↗ so that's my general feedback if that

49:18 ↗ makes sense

49:19 ↗ yeah thank you yeah very helpful

49:22 ↗ thank you laura um i do think uh

49:26 ↗ we have about 30 minutes left on this

49:28 ↗ topic i see that we have a comment from

49:30 ↗ rishi one of the things i do want to

49:33 ↗ make sure is that we allow john to get

49:35 ↗ through his presentation and i know he

49:38 ↗ has a discussion section at the end

49:40 ↗ so i don't know um

49:43 ↗ happy to let you comment now i think my

49:45 ↗ goal would be though that we

49:47 ↗ get through the presentation and ask any

49:49 ↗ questions along the way and then if we

49:51 ↗ have

49:52 ↗ comments we have that discussion period

49:54 ↗ so

49:55 ↗ i'll leave it up to you if

49:57 ↗ if you want to have a comment until the

49:58 ↗ end

49:59 ↗ okay great

50:00 ↗ uh john you can go ahead

50:02 ↗ okay

50:02 ↗ so as part of the mobility master plan

50:06 ↗ uh project evaluation criteria was

50:09 ↗ created

50:10 ↗ and points were assigned

50:12 ↗ to

50:13 ↗ reflect the guiding principles and so it

50:15 ↗ looks at how does it improve mobility

50:17 ↗ within issaquah and that's 22 points how

50:20 ↗ does it prepare for growth knowing that

50:23 ↗ growth is coming to the city of isquad

50:25 ↗ the 16 points

50:27 ↗ how does a project connect disclose to

50:29 ↗ the region 12 points another 12 points

50:33 ↗ for evaluating how it protects the

50:35 ↗ environment

50:36 ↗ and 12 points for investing wisely which

50:39 ↗ would be things like is a project one

50:41 ↗ that would

50:42 ↗ score well with the grant competition

50:46 ↗ one of the things that we try and

50:48 ↗ balance as we're looking at our

50:49 ↗ transportation projects

50:51 ↗ is

50:53 ↗ and i call them neighborhood projects

50:55 ↗ but

50:56 ↗ versus grant projects

50:58 ↗ so

50:59 ↗ neighborhood project i think is

51:01 ↗ something that a lot of times the

51:03 ↗ community really

51:05 ↗ wants

51:06 ↗ and

51:07 ↗ that it's a high priority and then

51:10 ↗ there's the projects that

51:11 ↗ really score well for a grant

51:13 ↗ competition and

51:14 ↗ i think a lot of times the ideal project

51:17 ↗ that

51:18 ↗ is one that we can easily implement in

51:20 ↗ terms of a funding and getting something

51:22 ↗ the community wants is when we can get

51:25 ↗ that overlap between a project that

51:27 ↗ scores well for a grant and that is

51:29 ↗ something that the community really

51:31 ↗ wants and so that's something that we

51:32 ↗ really do try and

51:33 ↗ take into account is getting into that

51:35 ↗ intersecting spot

51:39 ↗ for there's a number of different

51:40 ↗ funding sources that the city has

51:43 ↗ some of the external ones come from the

51:45 ↗ state or the federal government so

51:48 ↗ the state the

51:50 ↗ transportation improvement board

51:53 ↗ they've provided a lot of funding for

51:55 ↗ the city of swap projects including that

51:57 ↗ 12th and sr 900 project

52:00 ↗ and

52:01 ↗ the city recently was awarded a five

52:04 ↗ hundred thousand dollar complete streets

52:06 ↗ award from the transportation

52:07 ↗ improvement board where what we're going

52:10 ↗ to do is

52:12 ↗ complete the juniper trail so in front

52:14 ↗ of gilman village right now there's

52:16 ↗ sidewalk but on either side

52:19 ↗ there's a shared use path that just

52:21 ↗ stops to become sidewalk we're going to

52:22 ↗ build that missing gap and

52:25 ↗ then put a little shared use path that

52:26 ↗ will go from front street to

52:30 ↗ the rainier trail along 2nd avenue and

52:34 ↗ that'll do two things one it'll

52:36 ↗ help make a safe routes to school to

52:39 ↗ help kids walk to school because you

52:40 ↗ keep going to the north you get to the

52:43 ↗ high school and middle school but then

52:45 ↗ it also

52:47 ↗ it's trying to get less cars

52:49 ↗ makes a a better connection

52:52 ↗ that way a a bicyclist or a pedestrian

52:55 ↗ could easily hop on the rainier trail

52:57 ↗ instead of taking front street

53:00 ↗ the surface transportation program and

53:02 ↗ congestion mitigation air quality those

53:05 ↗ are federal programs that we receive

53:07 ↗ funding usually through the puget sound

53:10 ↗ regional council

53:11 ↗ the surface transportation program those

53:13 ↗ are the most flexible funds that's the

53:16 ↗ funds that we have to design the newport

53:18 ↗ way between maple and sunset project

53:21 ↗ the congestion air

53:23 ↗ congestion mitigation air quality or

53:25 ↗ cmac

53:27 ↗ those are usually targeted towards

53:29 ↗ projects like

53:32 ↗ when

53:33 ↗ king county metro wants to

53:36 ↗ replace a number of their buses with

53:38 ↗ electric buses instead of diesel buses

53:41 ↗ that's a program that they look for

53:43 ↗ funding there are other kinds of

53:44 ↗ projects that the city can compete for

53:47 ↗ but a lot of times because it's rated on

53:50 ↗ the air quality benefit

53:52 ↗ it's hard to compete with

53:54 ↗ sound transit or another transit agency

53:58 ↗ electrifying their buses and their fleet

54:01 ↗ there are safe routes to school funds to

54:02 ↗ help

54:03 ↗ make routes for

54:05 ↗ kids to get to school that watchdog has

54:08 ↗ a local bridge program

54:10 ↗ those are federal funds

54:12 ↗ where you can replace or do preservation

54:16 ↗ work on bridges

54:18 ↗ and then there's the national highway

54:20 ↗ system asset management program that's

54:23 ↗ for taking care of pavement on

54:26 ↗ roads that are on the asset or national

54:29 ↗ highway system so for example this year

54:32 ↗ we're working on a project on east lakes

54:34 ↗ managed parkway in southeast 43rd that

54:36 ↗ are funded through that that next year

54:38 ↗ will

54:39 ↗ do payment overlays

54:41 ↗ local funding there's real estate excise

54:44 ↗ tax

54:45 ↗ they can be used for transportation

54:47 ↗ funding

54:48 ↗ the traffic impact fees can be used for

54:52 ↗ projects that add capacity

54:54 ↗ for traffic

54:56 ↗ and there's a certain list in the city's

54:58 ↗ concurrency system of projects that can

55:00 ↗ use those the city collects from

55:02 ↗ developers bicycle and pedestrian

55:04 ↗ mitigation fees to help build

55:06 ↗ non-motorized improvements

55:08 ↗ the

55:10 ↗ traffic camera on 2nd avenue near the

55:13 ↗ middle school and high school a lot of

55:15 ↗ those funds go into the school zone

55:17 ↗ safety fund that can be used for

55:20 ↗ transportation projects

55:22 ↗ the city council can issue bonds which

55:25 ↗ is what the council chose to do

55:27 ↗ to construct the traffic signal of

55:28 ↗ southeast 43rd

55:30 ↗ for

55:32 ↗ the

55:33 ↗ voters can also approve bonds

55:35 ↗ or

55:36 ↗ the city council can direct general

55:38 ↗ funds to transportation projects

55:43 ↗ for the federal funds in our region

55:46 ↗ the criteria that is used to evaluate

55:49 ↗ those is support for centers so isqua

55:52 ↗ has

55:52 ↗ a regional growth center

55:56 ↗ and so

55:59 ↗ projects that support the regional

56:01 ↗ growth center are good ones for

56:04 ↗ regional federal funds

56:06 ↗ they as part of the evaluation criteria

56:08 ↗ besides supporting centers

56:11 ↗ there are criteria for equity which

56:14 ↗ includes a number of things including

56:16 ↗ population served by a project as well

56:19 ↗ as outreach to the developer project

56:22 ↗ safety is another consideration that

56:24 ↗ gets put into these

56:26 ↗ projects the impact to air quality and

56:29 ↗ climate control is evaluated as well as

56:32 ↗ the

56:33 ↗ agency's ability to fund a project

56:38 ↗ canada's

56:40 ↗ when we make up the transportation

56:41 ↗ improvement program

56:43 ↗ kind of going back to what we've talked

56:45 ↗ about

56:46 ↗ it does need to be consistent with the

56:47 ↗ city's comprehensive plan

56:50 ↗ we're continuing the annual and ongoing

56:53 ↗ projects

56:54 ↗ addressing mandated responsibilities

56:56 ↗ taking care of the city's assets

56:59 ↗ pursuing new priority projects that came

57:02 ↗ out of the mobility master plan

57:05 ↗ so you look at our transportation

57:07 ↗ improvement program we really want to

57:09 ↗ identify

57:10 ↗ the revenue

57:13 ↗ to fund a project and the city council

57:16 ↗ gets the final decision on what goes

57:18 ↗ into the transportation improvement

57:20 ↗ program

57:23 ↗ climate change and transportation the

57:25 ↗ next little topic that i want to talk

57:27 ↗ about and um

57:29 ↗ is

57:30 ↗ a lot of you probably already know

57:33 ↗ here in the united states transportation

57:35 ↗ is the largest share of greenhouse gas

57:38 ↗ emissions

57:40 ↗ at 20 29 according to the u.s

57:43 ↗ environmental protection agency one of

57:46 ↗ the best ways to

57:47 ↗ reduce greenhouse gas emissions from

57:49 ↗ transportation is to reduce vehicle

57:52 ↗ miles traveled

57:54 ↗ there are number of ways to do that

57:56 ↗ but

57:57 ↗ and looking at some research that the

57:59 ↗ state of california put together that i

58:01 ↗ included in the packet for you

58:04 ↗ the

58:06 ↗ land use is one of the

58:08 ↗ strongest ways to do that by increasing

58:11 ↗ density

58:12 ↗ for residential as well as

58:15 ↗ commercial

58:17 ↗ there are other things that the city

58:19 ↗ does for commute trip reduction that

58:22 ↗ also help with greenhouse gas emissions

58:24 ↗ in the state of washington

58:28 ↗ every employer that has over a hundred

58:30 ↗ employees that commute to work

58:33 ↗ participates in the trip commute trip

58:36 ↗ reduction program

58:37 ↗ there's an annual survey that goes out

58:39 ↗ and then that information can be used to

58:45 ↗ help employers

58:47 ↗ reduce single occupants

58:51 ↗ commutes to work

58:53 ↗ improving a street connectivity as

58:55 ↗ having a dense or

58:57 ↗ a street grid with smaller blocks is

58:59 ↗ another way to reduce greenhouse gas

59:01 ↗ emissions

59:02 ↗ and limiting parking whether it's on

59:04 ↗ street or

59:06 ↗ as part of a development that

59:09 ↗ also has a good way to reduce greenhouse

59:12 ↗ gas emissions from transportation

59:17 ↗ um

59:27 ↗ so i mentioned green reducing vehicle

59:29 ↗ mile travel and in order to do that

59:32 ↗ shifting modes getting people outside of

59:34 ↗ their cars

59:35 ↗ and onto buses

59:38 ↗ trains bikes

59:40 ↗ walking

59:41 ↗ and

59:42 ↗ making sure that we have those

59:43 ↗ facilities

59:44 ↗ encouraging electric vehicles

59:47 ↗ and land use is by far i think one of

59:49 ↗ the best ways to

59:52 ↗ reduce greenhouse gas emissions

59:55 ↗ and want to make sure that we have time

59:56 ↗ for you guys to talk so i'm gonna

59:58 ↗ go through things pretty quickly

1:00:00 ↗ the city has the central isco plan which

1:00:03 ↗ actually does a lot of those things with

1:00:05 ↗ increased density

1:00:06 ↗ and improved street grid

1:00:09 ↗ bicycle and pedestrian facilities

1:00:11 ↗ limited parking and affordable housing

1:00:16 ↗ but for the environmental phase

1:00:19 ↗ or the design phase

1:00:21 ↗ there is a number of things that do go

1:00:23 ↗ into the environmental considerations

1:00:26 ↗ that for

1:00:27 ↗ our projects we do

1:00:29 ↗ the state environmental policy act and

1:00:32 ↗ look at projects impact to

1:00:34 ↗ the environment and when we have federal

1:00:36 ↗ funds there is a

1:00:39 ↗ national environmental policy act that

1:00:41 ↗ we go through

1:00:43 ↗ as well as getting permits whether it's

1:00:44 ↗ for a wetland buck impact or

1:00:47 ↗ for our clearing and grading

1:00:50 ↗ during the construction phase a lot of

1:00:54 ↗ things that we look at are related to

1:00:56 ↗ the environment are the permit

1:00:58 ↗ conditions from the environmental

1:01:01 ↗ permits

1:01:02 ↗ how the stormwater is handled

1:01:05 ↗ making sure that we're not putting a

1:01:06 ↗ bunch of sediment or

1:01:09 ↗ concrete into the storm water and making

1:01:11 ↗ sure that any spills from equipment are

1:01:15 ↗ cleaned up and that critical areas are

1:01:17 ↗ protected

1:01:21 ↗ and at this point

1:01:23 ↗ i wanted to open it up for discussion to

1:01:26 ↗ talk about the community vision for the

1:01:28 ↗ natural environment as it relates to

1:01:30 ↗ transportation projects

1:01:35 ↗ thank you john um appreciate i know you

1:01:37 ↗ had a comment are you

1:01:40 ↗ do you still want to make that comment

1:01:41 ↗ now or did you need a bit more time

1:01:43 ↗ yeah sure i just wanted to reaffirm

1:01:46 ↗ laura's point about kind of increased

1:01:49 ↗ transparency about what impact each of

1:01:51 ↗ these transportation projects have it'd

1:01:53 ↗ be nice to have some kind of

1:01:56 ↗ indicator as to whether how much it

1:01:59 ↗ improves or could potentially improve

1:02:02 ↗ um

1:02:03 ↗ a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions

1:02:05 ↗ how it could potentially increase it and

1:02:07 ↗ give us a way to

1:02:08 ↗ [Music]

1:02:09 ↗ compare it to other projects and see

1:02:11 ↗ potential environmental impacts both

1:02:13 ↗ positive and negative so we can better

1:02:15 ↗ judge how well it aligns with city

1:02:17 ↗ priorities

1:02:22 ↗ thank you thank you thank you rishi

1:02:25 ↗ did you have any uh response that you

1:02:27 ↗ were looking for on that one rishi

1:02:32 ↗ nope um nancy you have a comment go

1:02:35 ↗ ahead

1:02:37 ↗ yes i would um like to echo some of the

1:02:39 ↗ comments made by connie early on and

1:02:41 ↗ that is the criteria for selection of

1:02:44 ↗ projects it's very hard to identify

1:02:48 ↗ with this list you have at the very top

1:02:50 ↗ of the list um

1:02:52 ↗ they're not ranked and as far as i can

1:02:54 ↗ see and i can't see what the basis is

1:02:55 ↗ for the rankings is our number one

1:02:58 ↗ project the new um connection between

1:03:01 ↗ both sides over the freeway over i-90 i

1:03:03 ↗ don't remember what the name of the

1:03:04 ↗ project was but that is the first one

1:03:07 ↗ you see on the list so i assume it's our

1:03:08 ↗ highest priority project

1:03:11 ↗ and i guess that kind of troubles me

1:03:12 ↗ because the most expensive project on

1:03:14 ↗ the list seems to be our highest

1:03:15 ↗ priority project

1:03:17 ↗ the second thing i'd like to point out

1:03:18 ↗ is it's very difficult to see how these

1:03:21 ↗ projects were scored or ranked

1:03:24 ↗ and how they ranked on an environmental

1:03:26 ↗ basis or other basis

1:03:29 ↗ and i guess my third point is the

1:03:31 ↗ criteria given that you know the city

1:03:33 ↗ adopted this strong climate action plan

1:03:35 ↗ and has prioritized doing something

1:03:38 ↗ about greenhouse gas emissions as

1:03:40 ↗ something that it has high significant

1:03:42 ↗ targets by 2030 the criteria for the

1:03:46 ↗ environment or even

1:03:48 ↗ greenhouse gas emissions

1:03:50 ↗ is pretty much pretty small in terms of

1:03:53 ↗ the the criteria that you identified it

1:03:55 ↗ only think had 12 points in your

1:03:57 ↗ presentation

1:03:58 ↗ and it seems to me that if we really

1:04:00 ↗ want to say that we're trying to do

1:04:02 ↗ something we need to significantly

1:04:03 ↗ increase and maybe have more than one

1:04:05 ↗ criteria for environment

1:04:08 ↗ that its environmental impacts

1:04:10 ↗ improvements to the environment and

1:04:13 ↗ um

1:04:13 ↗ significance of greenhouse gas emission

1:04:16 ↗ because right now um we really only see

1:04:18 ↗ the environment as 12 points and i don't

1:04:20 ↗ know what the environment means um your

1:04:22 ↗ definition my definition and i guess

1:04:25 ↗ jamies are all different and i think we

1:04:27 ↗ all need to be on the same page in terms

1:04:29 ↗ of what we're talking about and i don't

1:04:31 ↗ think the rankings is doing that for us

1:04:34 ↗ those are my comments thank you

1:04:37 ↗ yeah and i wanted to provide a little

1:04:39 ↗ clarification that the order that

1:04:41 ↗ they're shown in the step is not their

1:04:43 ↗ priority that

1:04:45 ↗ whenever we create a new project for

1:04:47 ↗ transportation it is assigned a tr

1:04:50 ↗ number so tr004

1:04:53 ↗ tr001 and anyways

1:04:56 ↗ i think we're in the 60s right now and

1:04:58 ↗ so it's just the order that they get

1:05:00 ↗ assigned so

1:05:02 ↗ what what are the priorities on the

1:05:04 ↗ projects then if that's not the order of

1:05:06 ↗ the priorities i mean what is our number

1:05:08 ↗ one priority project in the tip

1:05:13 ↗ well when you say that i could answer

1:05:15 ↗ which project scored the highest

1:05:18 ↗ when evaluated by the mobility master

1:05:21 ↗ plan

1:05:22 ↗ and i can pull that one up but

1:05:25 ↗ i don't remember it off the top of my

1:05:27 ↗ head i think the newport projects were

1:05:28 ↗ some of the highest scoring projects

1:05:32 ↗ so how who sets the priorities so if the

1:05:34 ↗ council allocates funding at a certain

1:05:38 ↗ dollar amount for transportation

1:05:40 ↗ improvement projects

1:05:41 ↗ how do you know where that's going

1:05:42 ↗ what's your number one priority what's

1:05:44 ↗ your number two don't you have to

1:05:45 ↗ prioritize those and use the basis for

1:05:47 ↗ it or is it just if you're getting

1:05:49 ↗ federal state funds for it that's that's

1:05:51 ↗ your priority

1:05:52 ↗ but that seems kind of like a screwed up

1:05:54 ↗ priority system if you ask me

1:05:57 ↗ so the in the mobility master plan

1:05:59 ↗ appendix

1:06:01 ↗ the projects were scored according to

1:06:03 ↗ the priorities in the mobility master

1:06:05 ↗ plan the number one scoring project was

1:06:08 ↗ to complete the mountains to sound

1:06:10 ↗ greenway corridor

1:06:12 ↗ which is part of the two newport

1:06:14 ↗ projects but it's a much bigger project

1:06:17 ↗ the second priority was the tibbetts

1:06:19 ↗ valley park frontage improvements which

1:06:21 ↗ has a name change but it's basically to

1:06:24 ↗ construct

1:06:25 ↗ non-motorized facilities along newport

1:06:28 ↗ way between sr 912

1:06:31 ↗ the

1:06:33 ↗ uh let's see here another one for the

1:06:35 ↗ mountains to sound green lake corridor

1:06:37 ↗ that that project got listed several

1:06:39 ↗ times

1:06:40 ↗ then the newport way sr 900 to 54th

1:06:44 ↗ followed by improvements to gilman

1:06:46 ↗ boulevard

1:06:48 ↗ and adding bike facilities to southeast

1:06:50 ↗ 56th

1:06:52 ↗ anyways i keep going on and i can email

1:06:55 ↗ out a link to where the projects are in

1:06:58 ↗ the appendix for their prioritization

1:07:01 ↗ but i would say that the majority of the

1:07:02 ↗ projects that are in the tip are ongoing

1:07:04 ↗ projects

1:07:06 ↗ that

1:07:07 ↗ until we get more of these done

1:07:10 ↗ is going to take a long process to

1:07:12 ↗ start implementing all the

1:07:15 ↗ priorities in the mobility master plan

1:07:16 ↗ although the

1:07:18 ↗ newport way projects that we have on

1:07:20 ↗ there did score extremely high

1:07:26 ↗ thanks john um tom

1:07:28 ↗ go ahead

1:07:31 ↗ i asked tom anderson speaking uh so yeah

1:07:33 ↗ i had some of the same questions nancy

1:07:35 ↗ was asking about and so i was curious

1:07:38 ↗ about that ranking uh

1:07:40 ↗ approach as well and actually

1:07:42 ↗ ping john earlier this afternoon about

1:07:45 ↗ hey let's uh i'd like to look at that

1:07:47 ↗ appendix to the mobility master plan

1:07:50 ↗ where where all that

1:07:52 ↗ truth is about well what are all those

1:07:54 ↗ scores that each of the projects

1:07:56 ↗ evaluated

1:07:58 ↗ and what was the waiting on the various

1:08:01 ↗ factors and all that and

1:08:03 ↗ as i came away from it uh you know we

1:08:05 ↗ can't evaluate this this tip

1:08:08 ↗ in a vacuum we have to evaluate it

1:08:11 ↗ against

1:08:12 ↗ the

1:08:14 ↗ the process

1:08:16 ↗ involving that mobility master plan and

1:08:18 ↗ the ranking

1:08:19 ↗ uh there and if we have if we have a

1:08:22 ↗ disagreement about the the ranking well

1:08:24 ↗ then it needs to it needs to go back to

1:08:27 ↗ that mobility master plan and and adjust

1:08:30 ↗ priorities there that's that's where we

1:08:33 ↗ could have effect

1:08:34 ↗ um i guess

1:08:36 ↗ my own druthers i um

1:08:38 ↗ i believe that non-motorized

1:08:40 ↗ transportation is a valuable thing to

1:08:43 ↗ promote and and we are promoting it but

1:08:46 ↗ i think we should promote it even more

1:08:48 ↗ uh over over cars and so how would you

1:08:50 ↗ uh actually make that happen well you'd

1:08:53 ↗ go back to that mmp

1:08:55 ↗ and you would uh give a uh a stronger

1:08:58 ↗ weighting for those factors involving um

1:09:02 ↗ non-motorized transportation corridors

1:09:04 ↗ and there's several of them in there and

1:09:06 ↗ oh i'll bump those numbers up a little

1:09:08 ↗ bit then maybe that would change some of

1:09:10 ↗ the

1:09:11 ↗ projects that would be decided upon

1:09:14 ↗ i'm quite pleased to see the effort on

1:09:17 ↗ several projects that john mentioned in

1:09:19 ↗ the newport corridor that's a great

1:09:21 ↗ example there is a a major

1:09:23 ↗ transportation corridor

1:09:26 ↗ for cars as well as

1:09:29 ↗ non-motorized transportation and the

1:09:31 ↗ non-motorized side of it is uh well not

1:09:34 ↗ not quite up to what we need and so this

1:09:36 ↗ is this is good um

1:09:39 ↗ my own pet peeves would be more about

1:09:41 ↗ the transportation corridor sticking to

1:09:44 ↗ front street and heading up through town

1:09:46 ↗ you've got bike lanes and then you hit

1:09:49 ↗ um

1:09:50 ↗ uh clark street and the bike lanes go

1:09:52 ↗ away well that's an outrage that needs

1:09:55 ↗ to be fixed well that didn't make the

1:09:57 ↗ cut this year maybe it'll make the cut

1:09:59 ↗ some some year but so if you're i'll

1:10:02 ↗ send you my cur your corrected list

1:10:04 ↗ of projects uh john no just kidding but

1:10:07 ↗ um

1:10:09 ↗ so that's that's how we could have

1:10:11 ↗ effect

1:10:12 ↗ on whether we think these were the right

1:10:14 ↗ choices is to go back to the mobility

1:10:17 ↗ master plan and adjust the weighting of

1:10:20 ↗ those uh overall it's a pretty uh

1:10:23 ↗ i'm impressed by the overall system

1:10:25 ↗ because it is a complex

1:10:27 ↗ thing to decide well what do you do and

1:10:29 ↗ what you don't do there's too many

1:10:31 ↗ things you can't do them all so how do

1:10:32 ↗ you decide and we have a pretty good

1:10:34 ↗ system for ranking them that's

1:10:36 ↗ impressive uh but each of us would uh

1:10:40 ↗ weigh things bad at weight maybe a

1:10:43 ↗ little bit differently

1:10:44 ↗ but you gotta strike a compromise

1:10:46 ↗ somewhere

1:10:47 ↗ so that's uh that's what i learned from

1:10:50 ↗ looking at it here earlier today and uh

1:10:55 ↗ uh

1:10:56 ↗ the bottom line is i i think we do need

1:10:58 ↗ to shift towards more emphasis on

1:11:01 ↗ non-motorized transportation that that's

1:11:03 ↗ going to become a bigger and bigger part

1:11:05 ↗ of the transportation story in issaquah

1:11:09 ↗ improving uh the lives of the people who

1:11:11 ↗ live here and reducing greenhouse gas

1:11:13 ↗ emissions i think that's the direction

1:11:15 ↗ we need to head

1:11:17 ↗ and uh are we heading there quickly

1:11:19 ↗ enough well i don't know that's that's

1:11:21 ↗ the judgment call

1:11:22 ↗ that's all i got thank you

1:11:27 ↗ thank you tom um i have some comments um

1:11:30 ↗ i actually think the mobility master

1:11:33 ↗ plan is a very good start and in a lot

1:11:36 ↗ of ways is is very aligned with

1:11:38 ↗ the goals of the

1:11:40 ↗ climate action plan

1:11:41 ↗ i do think to nancy's point and to other

1:11:44 ↗ people that have mentioned i do think

1:11:45 ↗ that now that we have that climate

1:11:46 ↗ action plan as well as an environmental

1:11:49 ↗ board there may be an exercise to go

1:11:51 ↗ back and more closely define the

1:11:53 ↗ environmental aspects or the criteria

1:11:55 ↗ that are specific to the environment as

1:11:57 ↗ well as how the climate action plan

1:11:59 ↗ might influence

1:12:01 ↗ um different aspects of other parts of

1:12:03 ↗ the criteria so

1:12:05 ↗ not to say it's perfect but i do think

1:12:06 ↗ the mobility master plan i i was

1:12:08 ↗ actually

1:12:09 ↗ i hadn't reviewed it before and and was

1:12:11 ↗ i thought there was a lot of really

1:12:12 ↗ interesting elements and so

1:12:14 ↗ um first of all applaud kind of where

1:12:16 ↗ the city has landed there i do think we

1:12:18 ↗ have maybe some more work to do with

1:12:20 ↗ some of the things that have happened

1:12:21 ↗ since that plan was finalized

1:12:23 ↗ um

1:12:24 ↗ i think echoing some of the comments

1:12:26 ↗ that were mentioned earlier i do think

1:12:27 ↗ the access

1:12:28 ↗ accessing of that information so for

1:12:30 ↗ example

1:12:32 ↗ i would ask the question should the tip

1:12:34 ↗ have the scoring of each individual

1:12:35 ↗ project and i know some of these are

1:12:37 ↗ probably pre-date the mobility master

1:12:39 ↗ plan so maybe they don't have a specific

1:12:41 ↗ scoring we'd have to go back but

1:12:43 ↗ should the tip have scoring from the

1:12:46 ↗ mobility master plan going forward i

1:12:48 ↗ mean it shouldn't probably be someone

1:12:50 ↗ needing to go back between the mobility

1:12:52 ↗ master plan and that

1:12:53 ↗ that tip document every time i think

1:12:55 ↗ that would be super valuable just to

1:12:57 ↗ make sure that we know that some things

1:12:59 ↗ are not going to be we can't choose all

1:13:01 ↗ of our projects some will be mandated

1:13:03 ↗ some will have other aspects that are

1:13:04 ↗ just kind of ongoing maintenance but

1:13:06 ↗ um

1:13:07 ↗ i do think one of the things and we're

1:13:09 ↗ struggling with this now with the icap

1:13:11 ↗ we're not struggling but trying to

1:13:12 ↗ figure it out is you have this great

1:13:14 ↗ mobility master plan i think

1:13:16 ↗ how does that now influence capital

1:13:18 ↗ decisions going forward um i think that

1:13:20 ↗ connection is an area that i'm not clear

1:13:23 ↗ on i i think we're all maybe not sure on

1:13:25 ↗ how that comes together and really

1:13:27 ↗ that's going to be the rubber meets the

1:13:28 ↗ road we're going to have a certain

1:13:30 ↗ amount of our budget that we can we have

1:13:31 ↗ to spend on certain projects then we're

1:13:34 ↗ going to have some maybe discretionary

1:13:35 ↗ income that we can put towards projects

1:13:37 ↗ that we really care about and i think

1:13:39 ↗ nancy mentioned like what are our

1:13:40 ↗ priorities how are those communicated

1:13:43 ↗ and how do we make sure that those

1:13:45 ↗ projects are the ones being funded is

1:13:46 ↗ something that i'm not really clear on

1:13:48 ↗ and i don't know if that's in the scope

1:13:50 ↗ for to today's meeting i don't think it

1:13:52 ↗ probably is but i would just

1:13:53 ↗ say that that's an area that i think

1:13:55 ↗ there could be a lot of work done to

1:13:57 ↗ ensure that

1:13:58 ↗ going forward next year's tip and and

1:14:01 ↗ when we get to the next cip that we're

1:14:03 ↗ really thinking about it with that lens

1:14:05 ↗ on the projects that are being selected

1:14:07 ↗ um

1:14:08 ↗ and so i think the last piece is i know

1:14:11 ↗ this meeting is really focused on

1:14:12 ↗ capital projects and i sent you some

1:14:14 ↗ questions around some of the

1:14:15 ↗ programmatic elements i think another

1:14:18 ↗ thing that comes to mind is we're

1:14:19 ↗ talking about transportation metro um

1:14:21 ↗ some of these things are not capital in

1:14:23 ↗ nature and so

1:14:25 ↗ i would just encourage i don't miss we

1:14:27 ↗ don't have time to cover

1:14:29 ↗ a comprehensive what does a

1:14:30 ↗ transportation program look like in

1:14:32 ↗ addition to like how we're spending

1:14:33 ↗ funds to build

1:14:35 ↗ kind of the infrastructure for it but i

1:14:36 ↗ do think

1:14:37 ↗ i would encourage that we should

1:14:39 ↗ probably revisit that topic more broadly

1:14:41 ↗ because i do think there's aspects and

1:14:43 ↗ you mentioned a few in your response but

1:14:45 ↗ also metro i think how we engage with

1:14:47 ↗ metro how we encourage like encourage

1:14:50 ↗ more opportunities or more options for

1:14:52 ↗ citizens is something that i think is

1:14:54 ↗ critical and so if we're only talking

1:14:55 ↗ about capital projects i think we're

1:14:57 ↗ missing a big part of that one of the

1:14:59 ↗ things i mentioned to you is

1:15:00 ↗ in my emails that i really think that

1:15:03 ↗ some of those california i don't know if

1:15:04 ↗ you put those in there if stacy put

1:15:06 ↗ those in there but the california

1:15:08 ↗ i can't remember what the with all the

1:15:10 ↗ different rankings and their potential

1:15:11 ↗ for greenhouse gas mitigation

1:15:14 ↗ that was super interesting i went and

1:15:15 ↗ read like that was like so interesting

1:15:18 ↗ so and a lot of those are not purely

1:15:20 ↗ capital and some of them are have no

1:15:21 ↗ capital aspect to them at all and so i

1:15:24 ↗ would ask the question

1:15:26 ↗ um not only for this meeting but also

1:15:27 ↗ more broadly how is the city thinking

1:15:29 ↗ about a comprehensive plan for

1:15:31 ↗ transportation that incorporates the

1:15:33 ↗ capital elements as well as the

1:15:35 ↗ programmatic

1:15:36 ↗ and um and kind of metro partnership

1:15:39 ↗ based ones and i think that's the

1:15:40 ↗ mobility master plan i didn't see that i

1:15:44 ↗ think there's really great things about

1:15:45 ↗ the mobility master plan i'm not sure i

1:15:46 ↗ s

1:15:47 ↗ it was hard to like figure out how that

1:15:49 ↗ all comes together so i do think that

1:15:51 ↗ that's something that i know that myself

1:15:53 ↗ and i think the rest of the board would

1:15:55 ↗ have a lot of interest in engaging on as

1:15:57 ↗ we get further into the process of

1:15:59 ↗ implementing but that's just one thing i

1:16:01 ↗ wanted to call because i do think the

1:16:03 ↗ non-capital elements are in some ways

1:16:05 ↗ something that we can move even quicker

1:16:07 ↗ or

1:16:08 ↗ at least solve

1:16:10 ↗ a really important part of

1:16:12 ↗ a comprehensive transportation plan

1:16:15 ↗ thank you

1:16:17 ↗ um

1:16:18 ↗ let's see

1:16:19 ↗ looks like we have a comment from janet

1:16:30 ↗ so

1:16:32 ↗ yes um i wondered whether you had any um

1:16:37 ↗ uh you taken into consideration

1:16:40 ↗ in your plans um

1:16:42 ↗ whether you're

1:16:44 ↗ building additional barriers to wildlife

1:16:48 ↗ that has to

1:16:52 ↗ cross some of these streets or go under

1:16:55 ↗ a bridge

1:16:56 ↗ and to try to make it so that they can

1:16:59 ↗ still

1:17:00 ↗ migrate um

1:17:02 ↗ one of

1:17:04 ↗ my pet peeves is is those huge uh sound

1:17:07 ↗ walls that they've put up

1:17:09 ↗ near the state park

1:17:11 ↗ that

1:17:12 ↗ is going to make it

1:17:14 ↗ difficult for wildlife to

1:17:17 ↗ get across

1:17:22 ↗ impacts to wildlife would happen during

1:17:25 ↗ the environmental phase that haven't

1:17:27 ↗ heard the environmental review that

1:17:29 ↗ happens during the design phase now more

1:17:31 ↗ often than not that is

1:17:33 ↗ more looking at endangered species

1:17:36 ↗ and

1:17:38 ↗ not necessarily looking at

1:17:40 ↗ animals that are not endangered species

1:17:49 ↗ does that answer your question

1:17:58 ↗ janet did that answer your question do

1:18:00 ↗ you have any other comments on that

1:18:02 ↗ topic

1:18:10 ↗ janet you are muted i can try and unmute

1:18:12 ↗ you but

1:18:13 ↗ if you want to go ahead and try first

1:18:22 ↗ all right janet i can try on meeting you

1:18:24 ↗ on my end if you want to a responder if

1:18:25 ↗ you have any follow up

1:18:28 ↗ ah there we go uh yes um well that

1:18:31 ↗ doesn't make me very happy because i

1:18:33 ↗ still feel that uh you know there are

1:18:36 ↗ the the different

1:18:38 ↗ issaquah alps that they can become um

1:18:42 ↗ so isolated that they they are no longer

1:18:44 ↗ uh

1:18:46 ↗ reproductively viable

1:18:48 ↗ and uh as i say i

1:18:51 ↗ i really don't like those big sound

1:18:54 ↗ barriers that

1:18:55 ↗ that uh

1:18:57 ↗ really uh narrow the

1:19:00 ↗ the uh ability of of uh

1:19:03 ↗ wildlife and there's no way of getting

1:19:06 ↗ underneath

1:19:08 ↗ i-90

1:19:10 ↗ so

1:19:12 ↗ i just like to see a little more

1:19:14 ↗ consideration about where

1:19:16 ↗ these important wildlife corridors are

1:19:20 ↗ and to make sure that there's some kind

1:19:22 ↗ of of uh allowance

1:19:25 ↗ or consideration

1:19:29 ↗ thank you jenna

1:19:31 ↗ um

1:19:32 ↗ don um

1:19:33 ↗ you're next

1:19:34 ↗ up

1:19:36 ↗ yeah thank you

1:19:37 ↗ um john as you look at these projects

1:19:39 ↗ i'm going to shift focus on you a little

1:19:40 ↗ bit and i would i would encourage you to

1:19:43 ↗ look at the pollution that's coming from

1:19:44 ↗ the roadways as part of this project

1:19:46 ↗ with relation to your runoff

1:19:49 ↗ so encouraging green storm water

1:19:50 ↗ infrastructure wherever you can build it

1:19:52 ↗ use it first and foremost

1:19:54 ↗ before you go to traditional measures

1:19:57 ↗ also when you're crossing um you know

1:19:59 ↗ streams whether they be major streams or

1:20:01 ↗ just

1:20:02 ↗ small drainages often i see

1:20:04 ↗ municipalities they don't increase the

1:20:07 ↗ roadway footprint at that point because

1:20:09 ↗ they don't want to replace the culvert

1:20:11 ↗ but it is an opportunity to potentially

1:20:13 ↗ replace that culvert so

1:20:15 ↗ factor that into your projects as you're

1:20:17 ↗ moving along that's you know speaking to

1:20:20 ↗ janet's point there that creates a

1:20:21 ↗ wildlife corridor um if you if you

1:20:24 ↗ increase that culvert side for the

1:20:25 ↗ critters to get under there

1:20:29 ↗ thanks don and one of the things i did

1:20:31 ↗ want to add is

1:20:33 ↗ one of the things that we're finding

1:20:35 ↗ and this is really showing up first on

1:20:37 ↗ the newport way yes or 954th project

1:20:41 ↗ is i don't know if you guys remember but

1:20:44 ↗ just over i don't know if it's a year or

1:20:46 ↗ two ago there's new research showing

1:20:47 ↗ that material from tires is killing

1:20:51 ↗ salmon

1:20:52 ↗ and

1:20:54 ↗ that project is actually on hold because

1:20:56 ↗ the national marine fisheries is doing a

1:20:58 ↗ much more in-depth review about

1:21:02 ↗ transportation projects

1:21:04 ↗ impact on salmon

1:21:07 ↗ and until that gets done

1:21:10 ↗ they're not giving us our approval so

1:21:13 ↗ as we look at

1:21:15 ↗ in there we were going to treat the

1:21:17 ↗ storm water and a lot of times that

1:21:20 ↗ would have been focused on

1:21:22 ↗ the treatment of heavy metals

1:21:24 ↗ which we definitely want to keep out of

1:21:26 ↗ our streams but now we're looking at

1:21:29 ↗ the materials from the tires and i don't

1:21:31 ↗ know what the solution to it will be but

1:21:34 ↗ that is something that is very much

1:21:36 ↗ something that we're looking at

1:21:38 ↗ and

1:21:40 ↗ i would say in general for the project

1:21:42 ↗ footprint it is generally better to have

1:21:45 ↗ a smaller footprint and i'm not saying

1:21:47 ↗ to try and not replace fish passage

1:21:50 ↗ culverts because that project will

1:21:51 ↗ replace a whole bunch of fish passage

1:21:53 ↗ culverts but in terms of its

1:21:55 ↗ environmental impact

1:21:57 ↗ the smaller our footprint is

1:22:00 ↗ especially the pollution generating

1:22:02 ↗ impervious surface where the cars are

1:22:05 ↗ is a

1:22:06 ↗ very important for the

1:22:09 ↗ stormwater and aquatic wildlife

1:22:15 ↗ thank you john and

1:22:17 ↗ laura you got the next comment

1:22:21 ↗ hi um i have two

1:22:23 ↗ comments one is um

1:22:26 ↗ the

1:22:26 ↗ i was looking through the mobility

1:22:28 ↗ master plan and there's a lot of talk

1:22:29 ↗ about commuting but um i think that

1:22:32 ↗ we're overlooking some of their

1:22:33 ↗ residents and one is like the other uses

1:22:35 ↗ that people have and i think that

1:22:37 ↗ coming as janet was saying to see the

1:22:39 ↗ wildlife and see the accessibility to

1:22:41 ↗ mountains is a reason that people will

1:22:42 ↗ come to ethical and continue to

1:22:45 ↗ so i'd like to see some maybe

1:22:47 ↗ consideration of like multi-use

1:22:50 ↗ things not just economic um and then

1:22:52 ↗ also to echo like that i would like for

1:22:55 ↗ us to see wildlife as a resident not

1:22:57 ↗ just

1:22:58 ↗ um a consideration i think we probably

1:23:00 ↗ are all on the same page for that

1:23:02 ↗ and the second is um i'd like to see a

1:23:04 ↗ little more talk of equity a lot of the

1:23:06 ↗ transportation planning is talking about

1:23:09 ↗ cars that are how much i just would be

1:23:12 ↗ interested in

1:23:13 ↗ making sure that we're considering that

1:23:15 ↗ we're thinking about people who don't

1:23:16 ↗ have cars we cannot drive cars um making

1:23:19 ↗ it you know transportation and mobility

1:23:21 ↗ something that's

1:23:22 ↗ um considering specifically equity as

1:23:26 ↗ part of because if we're not

1:23:27 ↗ making sustainability equitable you know

1:23:30 ↗ we'll forget a lot of things

1:23:35 ↗ thanks for the comments

1:23:37 ↗ thank you um and you're up next

1:23:42 ↗ thank you

1:23:43 ↗ and you come here and um thank you john

1:23:46 ↗ for responding to my email today with

1:23:48 ↗ those are great responses and i just

1:23:51 ↗ wanted to um

1:23:53 ↗ reiterate that i think it's

1:23:56 ↗ really important

1:23:58 ↗ that

1:23:58 ↗ we can

1:24:00 ↗ but as we're building things we look at

1:24:01 ↗ the building materials and their carbon

1:24:03 ↗ footprint

1:24:05 ↗ and as often as possible

1:24:07 ↗ purchase

1:24:09 ↗ the asphalt that

1:24:11 ↗ has

1:24:14 ↗ less of a carbon footprint using

1:24:15 ↗ recycled materials and you were i think

1:24:17 ↗ in your response you said that

1:24:18 ↗ washington

1:24:20 ↗ does

1:24:21 ↗ is is

1:24:22 ↗ is creating more of those opportunities

1:24:25 ↗ um did i understand that correctly

1:24:28 ↗ well i think

1:24:30 ↗ what i was saying is the washington

1:24:32 ↗ department of transportation

1:24:34 ↗ they're the leader on that and i don't

1:24:36 ↗ know what they're looking into

1:24:39 ↗ for the future but they've been a leader

1:24:41 ↗ in using recycled asphalt pavement so a

1:24:44 ↗ lot of times

1:24:45 ↗ when a new road is built a

1:24:48 ↗ good percentage of the pavement is

1:24:50 ↗ older asphalt that's been recycled or

1:24:53 ↗ asphalt that's been reclaimed from a

1:24:55 ↗ roofing shingle as well as the state of

1:24:58 ↗ washington has some pretty

1:25:01 ↗ ambitious

1:25:03 ↗ laws on using recycled concrete

1:25:07 ↗ aggregate so

1:25:08 ↗ that can be used back into concrete or

1:25:11 ↗ it could be used underneath the road as

1:25:14 ↗ the base to build on

1:25:16 ↗ but

1:25:18 ↗ for those materials

1:25:19 ↗ the the research of being able to find

1:25:22 ↗ what new materials will work and how to

1:25:23 ↗ use them that that's something that

1:25:26 ↗ we have to rely on the state for

1:25:29 ↗ yeah so i guess it's um

1:25:31 ↗ a comment that i should make to the

1:25:33 ↗ state there's also the carbon

1:25:35 ↗ here in the different concrete that is

1:25:37 ↗ sequestering carbon and in the concrete

1:25:43 ↗ and different practices to make

1:25:45 ↗ more

1:25:45 ↗ [Music]

1:25:47 ↗ environmentally friendly less greenhouse

1:25:49 ↗ gas emission

1:25:51 ↗ concrete

1:25:52 ↗ so

1:25:53 ↗ i think the more we talk about it the

1:25:54 ↗ more it's going to happen and i know

1:25:55 ↗ washington's very forward thinking so

1:25:58 ↗ i will um

1:25:59 ↗ write a letter to them

1:26:01 ↗ and um thank you everybody for bringing

1:26:03 ↗ up the

1:26:04 ↗ master

1:26:05 ↗ mobility master plan and having a good

1:26:08 ↗ discussion around that

1:26:09 ↗ i think it's a

1:26:12 ↗ brilliant

1:26:14 ↗ observation

1:26:15 ↗ and a good path forward

1:26:18 ↗ thank you

1:26:21 ↗ thank you thank you

1:26:22 ↗ thank you anne um sorry you have a

1:26:24 ↗ question

1:26:26 ↗ yeah short question and get into it as

1:26:28 ↗ much or as little as you'd like but um i

1:26:30 ↗ would be curious to know what um

1:26:33 ↗ input you have that you think that we

1:26:35 ↗ should be keeping top of mind and our

1:26:36 ↗ feedback to city council or in general

1:26:38 ↗ in ways that we can support you or in

1:26:40 ↗ ways that are

1:26:41 ↗ you know maybe aren't always on

1:26:42 ↗ everyone's radars

1:26:48 ↗ well i've gotten lots of great feedback

1:26:50 ↗ uh

1:26:51 ↗ and

1:26:54 ↗ as we go forward and i think some of the

1:26:56 ↗ next steps when i get to that part i

1:26:58 ↗ think will i

1:27:00 ↗ i think you'll you guys will look

1:27:01 ↗ forward to some of the next steps

1:27:03 ↗ some of the things that

1:27:05 ↗ going forward i want to do a little bit

1:27:07 ↗ of research because some of the things i

1:27:09 ↗ hear is transportation on the greenhouse

1:27:12 ↗ gas emissions

1:27:14 ↗ for transportation projects

1:27:16 ↗ and

1:27:18 ↗ researching how can we go about doing

1:27:20 ↗ that

1:27:21 ↗ i i don't know at this point how easy or

1:27:24 ↗ difficult of a task that is but

1:27:26 ↗ that's something i want to look into

1:27:29 ↗ i definitely hear

1:27:31 ↗ the priority of people over cars which

1:27:34 ↗ aligns a lot with the mobility master

1:27:36 ↗ plan

1:27:37 ↗ and

1:27:39 ↗ i think from your point

1:27:41 ↗ from the environmental board's point of

1:27:43 ↗ view

1:27:44 ↗ it probably can't happen fast enough but

1:27:47 ↗ uh

1:27:49 ↗ we are making that turn if you think of

1:27:51 ↗ maybe our transportation plans as an

1:27:54 ↗ aircraft carrier and we're trying to get

1:27:56 ↗ turned around to head there but

1:28:00 ↗ there's a lot of other work that's

1:28:02 ↗ already been underway like that 12th and

1:28:04 ↗ sr 900 project to add those turn lanes

1:28:06 ↗ but

1:28:07 ↗ the general

1:28:10 ↗ direction that we're heading is in a

1:28:12 ↗ much more

1:28:13 ↗ one that will have

1:28:16 ↗ facilities of bikes and beds and there

1:28:19 ↗ still will be a place for cars but

1:28:22 ↗ i do want to say that

1:28:24 ↗ we are making a

1:28:26 ↗ turn

1:28:27 ↗ towards a lot more non-motorized stuff

1:28:30 ↗ thank you

1:28:36 ↗ john um any other comments or questions

1:28:44 ↗ great well i think uh john thank you for

1:28:46 ↗ joining us and um i'm sure this is the

1:28:48 ↗ first of many conversations with uh our

1:28:51 ↗ board and

1:28:53 ↗ transportation team with the city so

1:28:55 ↗ appreciate you joining us and look

1:28:57 ↗ forward to future conversations yes and

1:28:59 ↗ i did want to

1:29:00 ↗ i'll go quickly talk about next steps so

1:29:03 ↗ for the transportation improvement

1:29:04 ↗ program

1:29:05 ↗ based on the feedback that i got from

1:29:07 ↗ the environmental board and the

1:29:09 ↗ transportation advisory board

1:29:12 ↗ i will be working on preparing the

1:29:14 ↗ transportation improvement program that

1:29:16 ↗ will be presented to the city council at

1:29:19 ↗ the may

1:29:20 ↗ mobility and infrastructure committee

1:29:22 ↗ meeting and so this

1:29:24 ↗ feedback really helps i'll see how much

1:29:27 ↗ i can utilize it if there's a way to

1:29:30 ↗ incorporate the scores from the mobility

1:29:31 ↗ master plan i i will put one asterisk uh

1:29:35 ↗ because we're not updating the capital

1:29:37 ↗ improvement plan this is going to be a

1:29:39 ↗ minor update and there won't be a whole

1:29:40 ↗ lot of changes that

1:29:43 ↗ bigger changes would be in store next

1:29:45 ↗ year

1:29:46 ↗ the

1:29:47 ↗ plan i believe is to hold the public

1:29:49 ↗ hearing in either late may or june i

1:29:51 ↗ can't remember which and have council

1:29:53 ↗ adopt the

1:29:55 ↗ tip

1:29:56 ↗ in

1:29:56 ↗ june and then in the second half of 2022

1:30:00 ↗ and this is the item i really want to

1:30:01 ↗ mention to you guys i'd like to have a

1:30:04 ↗ joint meeting between the environmental

1:30:05 ↗ board and the transportation

1:30:08 ↗ advisory board

1:30:09 ↗ to talk about how to incorporate the

1:30:11 ↗ climate action plan into

1:30:14 ↗ the transportation prioritization and i

1:30:17 ↗ know that's something that i heard from

1:30:18 ↗ you guys and wanted to let you know that

1:30:21 ↗ that is something that i would like to

1:30:22 ↗ have happen in the second half of this

1:30:24 ↗ year and thanks for having me as a guest

1:30:30 ↗ thank you john um and then i think next

1:30:32 ↗ up we have

1:30:34 ↗ um a discussion on title 18 process that

1:30:37 ↗ stacy will be leading hand it over to

1:30:39 ↗ you stacy

1:30:40 ↗ great thanks thanks john

1:30:44 ↗ all right i am just going to bring up

1:30:46 ↗ the memo that was shared as part of your

1:30:49 ↗ packet

1:31:01 ↗ great

1:31:11 ↗ just give me a moment to rearrange my

1:31:13 ↗ screen

1:31:15 ↗ okay

1:31:17 ↗ great and jamie can you see the memo up

1:31:21 ↗ yes again okay great um and just as a

1:31:25 ↗ reminder as we go into this discussion

1:31:26 ↗ we did receive the written comments from

1:31:28 ↗ susan and then had comments this evening

1:31:31 ↗ from connie that related to this topic

1:31:34 ↗ um we just wanted to recognize all the

1:31:37 ↗ work that the environmental board has

1:31:38 ↗ been doing in reviewing title 18 we have

1:31:41 ↗ had a lot of meetings there's been a lot

1:31:43 ↗ of information sent your way

1:31:46 ↗ this is an important component of

1:31:49 ↗ the work that the environmental board

1:31:51 ↗ does

1:31:53 ↗ and your expertise and input is

1:31:55 ↗ incredibly valued and very important to

1:31:58 ↗ this process

1:32:00 ↗ however again there is a lot going on

1:32:03 ↗ and i wanted to check in with you all

1:32:05 ↗ and see how the process is going and how

1:32:08 ↗ we might be able to improve it

1:32:10 ↗ so we've put forward a couple of

1:32:12 ↗ questions to you all tonight just to

1:32:14 ↗ hear from you in general about how you

1:32:16 ↗ think the process is going on the title

1:32:18 ↗ 18 review

1:32:20 ↗ um interested in hearing more about

1:32:22 ↗ whether you feel you're receiving the

1:32:24 ↗ right content if you have enough time to

1:32:27 ↗ prepare

1:32:29 ↗ and then also just hearing about whether

1:32:31 ↗ you feel like your comments are being

1:32:33 ↗ heard

1:32:34 ↗ and then as we wrap up this discussion

1:32:36 ↗ tonight i also did want to hear

1:32:38 ↗ from folks on whether or not the process

1:32:41 ↗ we use to

1:32:43 ↗ pull your comments

1:32:45 ↗ from our previous discussions into a

1:32:47 ↗ memo to send a counsel

1:32:50 ↗ if we want to continue doing something

1:32:51 ↗ like that going forward um so i think

1:32:55 ↗ i'll mostly just open it up just really

1:32:57 ↗ want to use this time as a check-in and

1:33:00 ↗ see hear from you all on how we might

1:33:02 ↗ make some improvements to the process to

1:33:05 ↗ help you all better prepare and provide

1:33:08 ↗ the important feedback that you have

1:33:11 ↗ thanks stacy one quick question for you

1:33:12 ↗ do you want it to be a free for all or

1:33:14 ↗ do you want to work through this in

1:33:16 ↗ order i am fine for it to be a

1:33:18 ↗ free-for-all for folks to focus in on on

1:33:22 ↗ where they want to respond i just wanted

1:33:24 ↗ to tee up some questions to get the

1:33:26 ↗ conversation going

1:33:28 ↗ but i do want to make sure at the end

1:33:30 ↗ that i have some direction on how we

1:33:32 ↗ want to proceed

1:33:34 ↗ with the meetings going forward in terms

1:33:36 ↗ of capturing comments

1:33:40 ↗ great that's super helpful um

1:33:42 ↗ all right

1:33:43 ↗ does anyone have comments i know there's

1:33:46 ↗ everyone's read so many packets there

1:33:48 ↗ have to be some comments on everything

1:33:49 ↗ we've read

1:33:54 ↗ well i will kick off then i'll wait for

1:33:56 ↗ everyone to formulate their thoughts um

1:33:59 ↗ i think

1:34:00 ↗ my biggest challenge with title 18 and

1:34:03 ↗ and part of this is it's an incredible

1:34:06 ↗ breadth of information so it's like hard

1:34:09 ↗ for anyone the city yet to synthesize it

1:34:12 ↗ down but what i'm really having issues

1:34:14 ↗ and what takes a lot of work to

1:34:16 ↗ understand is we've had policy level

1:34:18 ↗ discussions in the past about what we

1:34:20 ↗ want to see with setbacks what we want

1:34:22 ↗ to see with changes to title 18

1:34:24 ↗ what i'm having difficulty tracking is

1:34:27 ↗ how those policy level

1:34:30 ↗ decisions as well as just policy level

1:34:33 ↗ thinking from the city is being

1:34:35 ↗ translated into what is actually being

1:34:37 ↗ proposed as changes i think

1:34:40 ↗ um i think in a lot of cases it's

1:34:42 ↗ happening um and sometimes

1:34:44 ↗ the summary at the top sort of hits on

1:34:47 ↗ that but i really think

1:34:49 ↗ finding a way to more clearly tie those

1:34:51 ↗ all together um would be really helpful

1:34:53 ↗ and i i don't mean to say that that's

1:34:55 ↗ going to be easy i know that there's a

1:34:57 ↗ lot to do there and it's really

1:34:59 ↗ challenging but that that would really

1:35:00 ↗ help to just make sure that we're

1:35:02 ↗ talking about the right things because i

1:35:04 ↗ think that

1:35:05 ↗ i'm always afraid as i'm reviewing it am

1:35:07 ↗ i

1:35:08 ↗ reviewing for the right topics am i

1:35:10 ↗ really making sure that i'm reading the

1:35:12 ↗ sections that are related to the policy

1:35:14 ↗ level items that we've covered and that

1:35:15 ↗ i think we've all said are really

1:35:17 ↗ important and

1:35:19 ↗ it often takes a little more work than i

1:35:21 ↗ would hope to to get there so

1:35:23 ↗ um

1:35:25 ↗ i will leave

1:35:27 ↗ comments um on the other sections but

1:35:31 ↗ just wanted to get us kicked off in

1:35:32 ↗ hopes that maybe some others will jump

1:35:34 ↗ in before covering some of the later

1:35:36 ↗ questions

1:35:38 ↗ nancy you you have a comment

1:35:43 ↗ um

1:35:44 ↗ i guess i am a little concerned about

1:35:46 ↗ how this is kind of all playing out

1:35:48 ↗ personally for me i'm having a hard time

1:35:50 ↗ tracking the summaries what have we

1:35:52 ↗ changed what what did we start with as

1:35:55 ↗ in the current code

1:35:56 ↗ what have we changed and why are we

1:35:58 ↗ changing it and you don't see any of

1:36:00 ↗ that you don't ever go back to the

1:36:02 ↗ current code and so i'm concerned that

1:36:06 ↗ you know they're making big changes in

1:36:08 ↗ documents that are 80 pages long

1:36:11 ↗ that are hard to understand why are we

1:36:13 ↗ changing it and what are we trying to

1:36:14 ↗ get out of this why are we changing this

1:36:17 ↗ and so it feels like you're reading this

1:36:20 ↗ and maybe the last code was good but you

1:36:22 ↗ just don't know on the other thing i'm

1:36:25 ↗ concerned about is there's always places

1:36:28 ↗ for variances or administrative changes

1:36:30 ↗ and we haven't seen those yet

1:36:33 ↗ and

1:36:34 ↗ usually that's where the loopholes

1:36:36 ↗ happen and the environment takes it

1:36:38 ↗ or basically is more significantly

1:36:41 ↗ impacted

1:36:42 ↗ and so

1:36:43 ↗ and when i asked about that i was

1:36:45 ↗ troubled that oh that's coming later it

1:36:47 ↗ may not come to you well to me that is

1:36:49 ↗ the place where you see the loophole

1:36:51 ↗ start to show

1:36:52 ↗ so my big concern is that in about

1:36:55 ↗ august and talking to many we are going

1:36:57 ↗ to get a 500 page document delivered to

1:37:00 ↗ us that we're going to have a couple of

1:37:02 ↗ weeks to review which is all of title 18

1:37:06 ↗ and um

1:37:08 ↗ i'm

1:37:09 ↗ not certain if that will help us

1:37:11 ↗ understand how our comments were

1:37:13 ↗ interpreted how ppcs were interpreted

1:37:16 ↗ how councils were interpreted in it or

1:37:18 ↗ if we're going gonna actually have to

1:37:19 ↗ read all of these sections again to try

1:37:22 ↗ and figure out

1:37:24 ↗ what feedback we gave them and how it

1:37:26 ↗ was used and what it needs and so

1:37:29 ↗ um

1:37:30 ↗ i guess maybe i'm just flatting right

1:37:32 ↗ now because i'm not totally with it yet

1:37:34 ↗ but i just am real concerned about how

1:37:36 ↗ this is going to continue to evolve as

1:37:39 ↗ it comes to its because it's my

1:37:40 ↗ understanding it is coming back as a

1:37:42 ↗ large document to us at some point soon

1:37:45 ↗ it's my comments

1:37:48 ↗ thank you nancy and you the next comment

1:37:53 ↗ yeah

1:37:54 ↗ so um

1:37:56 ↗ i guess one of the things that i'm

1:37:58 ↗ always concerned about is um are we

1:38:00 ↗ creating more work for

1:38:04 ↗ uh

1:38:04 ↗ city staff um that are already

1:38:06 ↗ overburdened for us to understand and

1:38:09 ↗ then as nancy was saying that i realized

1:38:11 ↗ that i've read documents um like from

1:38:14 ↗ the utc the um

1:38:17 ↗ um the clean energy transformation act

1:38:19 ↗ so like when that was being written

1:38:22 ↗ um

1:38:24 ↗ they just kept it all together

1:38:27 ↗ and

1:38:28 ↗ uh

1:38:29 ↗ it was

1:38:30 ↗ lines were crossed out

1:38:33 ↗ that they were taking out and then lines

1:38:35 ↗ were added so you could see what was

1:38:38 ↗ taken out what was added

1:38:40 ↗ um

1:38:41 ↗ pretty easily

1:38:43 ↗ so i don't know that would make it more

1:38:45 ↗ clear and simple i and

1:38:47 ↗ we might be past the point of being able

1:38:50 ↗ to do that

1:38:51 ↗ um easily

1:38:53 ↗ but

1:38:55 ↗ possibly looking to

1:38:57 ↗ ecology

1:38:59 ↗ rules and um

1:39:03 ↗ and the utc and different organizations

1:39:05 ↗ that are always getting comments on

1:39:08 ↗ new rules

1:39:10 ↗ and

1:39:11 ↗ legislation and then adding it in

1:39:14 ↗ um

1:39:15 ↗ might help us to make it more clear

1:39:21 ↗ that's it okay

1:39:24 ↗ thank

1:39:24 ↗ you um

1:39:26 ↗ i had a couple other comments on the

1:39:28 ↗ later um questions i do think um

1:39:33 ↗ one of the other concerns i have and

1:39:36 ↗ this is actually going back to the first

1:39:38 ↗ question and really it's a it's a

1:39:39 ↗ comment on process is

1:39:41 ↗ um

1:39:43 ↗ there's a lot of new policy level things

1:39:45 ↗ being proposed but being proposed in

1:39:48 ↗ a huge document and so i do think

1:39:51 ↗ it should be incumbent upon

1:39:53 ↗ staff to ensure that we're not only like

1:39:56 ↗ not asking for comments on

1:39:58 ↗ the code and all the details but making

1:40:00 ↗ sure that there's time set aside to

1:40:02 ↗ discuss the policy level changes that

1:40:04 ↗ are being proposed and in

1:40:06 ↗ the first place just identifying what

1:40:07 ↗ those policy level changes are and how

1:40:10 ↗ that makes it into the code itself so i

1:40:12 ↗ think

1:40:12 ↗ that's one thing the other i mean i

1:40:15 ↗ understand that there's timelines

1:40:16 ↗ outside of what the board has um

1:40:20 ↗ it just feels like we're going really

1:40:21 ↗ fast and that's meaning that we have a

1:40:23 ↗ lot of meetings with multiple boards

1:40:25 ↗ and again i know there's

1:40:27 ↗ constraints on people's time city staff

1:40:30 ↗ and and timelines but that i think it

1:40:32 ↗ makes it really difficult and it's

1:40:33 ↗ putting a lot of

1:40:36 ↗ strain on our board we have a lot to do

1:40:38 ↗ and like this next week is a great

1:40:40 ↗ example of that three meetings

1:40:42 ↗ um is a lot and a lot of topics to cover

1:40:45 ↗ um and then finally just commenting on

1:40:47 ↗ the additional memos i think there's a

1:40:49 ↗ lot of value in those additional memos i

1:40:52 ↗ i think that

1:40:53 ↗ making sure that the comments from the

1:40:55 ↗ board and i

1:40:56 ↗ want to be sensitive to your time stacy

1:40:58 ↗ but i actually think that's a really

1:40:59 ↗ good use of your time um because making

1:41:02 ↗ sure that that

1:41:04 ↗ separating the comments out that that

1:41:06 ↗ we've made on these topics is i do think

1:41:08 ↗ it really valuable and it's actually a

1:41:10 ↗ part of our

1:41:12 ↗ our what what our what we were put in

1:41:14 ↗ place to do so i really appreciate nancy

1:41:17 ↗ bring that up in the first place and i

1:41:18 ↗ think that there's a lot of value

1:41:20 ↗ personally in in that process

1:41:23 ↗ tom you have a comment

1:41:27 ↗ oh yes tom anderson speaking here um

1:41:31 ↗ so i just wanted to comment on scope of

1:41:33 ↗ material

1:41:34 ↗ covered in a meeting now i guess there's

1:41:36 ↗ two parts to this the scope of material

1:41:38 ↗ that we have to review in preparation

1:41:40 ↗ for a meeting and uh well lucky me i'm

1:41:42 ↗ retired so i can take the time to go

1:41:45 ↗ through that 100 pages of whatever

1:41:48 ↗ that that i'm okay with but um

1:41:51 ↗ some some of our meetings have run long

1:41:54 ↗ and you know after three hours sit in

1:41:56 ↗ the media i'm not gonna i'm not gonna

1:41:58 ↗ bring up a comment or question i need to

1:42:00 ↗ go to the bathroom

1:42:01 ↗ so

1:42:02 ↗ anyway you you effectiveness is lost uh

1:42:06 ↗ beyond the two hour uh mark or so so uh

1:42:10 ↗ that uh we need to

1:42:12 ↗ uh do uh do

1:42:14 ↗ perform due diligence on figuring out

1:42:16 ↗ well how much material can we actually

1:42:18 ↗ cover

1:42:18 ↗ in uh the time frame that we have and

1:42:21 ↗ and if we need another me i would rather

1:42:23 ↗ have more meetings than longer meetings

1:42:26 ↗ uh that would be my druthers on that

1:42:28 ↗ because i can't effectively function

1:42:31 ↗ for a three hour meeting so

1:42:33 ↗ that's my feedback on that thank you

1:42:36 ↗ great

1:42:37 ↗ thanks

1:42:39 ↗ thank you tom

1:42:44 ↗ any other comments i don't want to call

1:42:45 ↗ on people but i'm really curious

1:42:47 ↗ for everyone's feedback on this because

1:42:49 ↗ i do think we've all been in these and

1:42:52 ↗ some people

1:42:54 ↗ feel more disposed to contribute than

1:42:57 ↗ others and would love to have everyone's

1:42:59 ↗ perspective in this

1:43:00 ↗ feedback so if there's any even if it's

1:43:02 ↗ a short comment we'd love to to hear

1:43:04 ↗ what you have to say

1:43:14 ↗ stacy any questions

1:43:15 ↗ any finer points you want to put on this

1:43:17 ↗ to

1:43:18 ↗ to uh or questions that you feel like

1:43:20 ↗ you need some more feedback on to help

1:43:22 ↗ inspire some more

1:43:25 ↗ feedback

1:43:27 ↗ thanks jamie yeah just one other comment

1:43:29 ↗ on the memo i can make and then it looks

1:43:30 ↗ like laura had a comment um i think

1:43:33 ↗ ideally

1:43:34 ↗ we would have had time to bring

1:43:37 ↗ a memo to council to this board for

1:43:40 ↗ review and approval and have it more

1:43:43 ↗ speak on behalf of the whole board

1:43:46 ↗ i think that could be the goal going

1:43:48 ↗ forward if timing allows but otherwise

1:43:51 ↗ i think it was much appreciated from ppc

1:43:54 ↗ the planning staff and council to have

1:43:56 ↗ just the summary of comments as we had

1:43:58 ↗ to do for the last

1:44:01 ↗ the last memo so just depending on

1:44:03 ↗ timing we can plan to move forward with

1:44:06 ↗ that memos and the format of them all

1:44:08 ↗ just vary depending on whether we have

1:44:10 ↗ time to bring it to the full board

1:44:12 ↗ um but it did look like laura also had a

1:44:14 ↗ comment

1:44:16 ↗ thank you stacy laura go ahead

1:44:18 ↗ hi is laura um i guess i'm only taking

1:44:21 ↗ the bait for jamie here but um i don't i

1:44:24 ↗ uh yeah i feel like it's been gangly but

1:44:26 ↗ i think a lot of things have because we

1:44:28 ↗ just you know are getting up and running

1:44:30 ↗ um but i do feel this need to pick a

1:44:33 ↗ lane and for us to to prioritize the

1:44:36 ↗ most important work we should be doing i

1:44:37 ↗ agree that probably

1:44:39 ↗ this is probably more important than a

1:44:41 ↗ lot of other things but at the same

1:44:42 ↗ point and you know environmental

1:44:44 ↗ initiatives can't just be only our

1:44:46 ↗ responsibility um so there are other i

1:44:48 ↗ would like for us to be like focusing on

1:44:50 ↗ the highest best use and maybe not as

1:44:52 ↗ much the nitty-gritty i don't know where

1:44:54 ↗ that line is um but i think my sense is

1:44:56 ↗ it just feels like sometimes it's super

1:44:58 ↗ super detailed and then we scale way

1:44:59 ↗ back and then it's super detailed and

1:45:01 ↗ it's kind of like

1:45:03 ↗ it'd be nice to have some consistency so

1:45:04 ↗ that we can bring our best skills

1:45:06 ↗ forward but otherwise i'd just be

1:45:07 ↗ interested in

1:45:09 ↗ um i think

1:45:10 ↗ stacy i feel like we trust you to figure

1:45:12 ↗ out where that good place is to land but

1:45:14 ↗ um so that's just

1:45:15 ↗ my perspective but if you any feedback

1:45:17 ↗ or thoughts for us i'm sure you can chat

1:45:19 ↗ with nancy and jamie on it

1:45:26 ↗ rishi

1:45:27 ↗ thank you for people that are speaking

1:45:29 ↗ up i appreciate it rishi you're up next

1:45:33 ↗ thank you so i agree with most what's

1:45:34 ↗ been said i think um in general it would

1:45:37 ↗ be very useful to have those additional

1:45:38 ↗ memos that kind of summarize our

1:45:40 ↗ comments on the sections i also think

1:45:42 ↗ like increased back and forth between um

1:45:45 ↗ the council and

1:45:46 ↗ the environmental board would be useful

1:45:48 ↗ so we can kind of

1:45:50 ↗ see how they're receiving the feedback

1:45:52 ↗ and whether they're implementing it

1:45:54 ↗ whether they're not and then what their

1:45:55 ↗ rationale is behind those decisions so

1:45:58 ↗ that can spark i think um important

1:46:00 ↗ discussion as to

1:46:02 ↗ um

1:46:03 ↗ how our feedback is being interpreted um

1:46:06 ↗ and whether

1:46:07 ↗ we're we have kind of the same

1:46:09 ↗ priorities and thinking on the same

1:46:10 ↗ wavelength that would be useful i

1:46:13 ↗ understand that might be

1:46:15 ↗ might not work or be feasible in terms

1:46:18 ↗ of time

1:46:19 ↗ and workload but i think having that

1:46:22 ↗ back and forth is important too

1:46:26 ↗ thank you richie nancy give a comment

1:46:31 ↗ i just wanted to kind of respond to

1:46:33 ↗ rishi a little bit um if you have a

1:46:35 ↗ chance the council reviewed those

1:46:37 ↗ sections which were like landslide and

1:46:40 ↗ um wetlands and stuff

1:46:43 ↗ they discussed that at the less council

1:46:44 ↗ meeting and it is an interesting watch

1:46:47 ↗ if you have an opportunity they were

1:46:49 ↗ fairly complementary to our work

1:46:51 ↗ um and it's available on youtube also i

1:46:54 ↗ think that at the next meeting um we

1:46:57 ↗ asked minnie to talk about what the

1:46:58 ↗ council's feedback was back to ppc and

1:47:01 ↗ to ourselves so

1:47:03 ↗ if you have if you don't have a chance

1:47:04 ↗ she's going to at least summarize it but

1:47:06 ↗ it's always best to hear it from the

1:47:07 ↗ council members themselves just some

1:47:09 ↗ feedback

1:47:13 ↗ thank you nancy um

1:47:14 ↗ that brings up actually one other

1:47:16 ↗ thought from me which is just around

1:47:19 ↗ joint meetings

1:47:21 ↗ i actually wonder if the same approach

1:47:23 ↗ could be used i i understand them

1:47:25 ↗ wanting to have us be on a meeting with

1:47:27 ↗ ppc for ppc to hear our feedback

1:47:30 ↗ i'm just wondering if that's truly the

1:47:31 ↗ best approach to get our feedback heard

1:47:34 ↗ and captured properly

1:47:36 ↗ um i do think um looking ahead to later

1:47:40 ↗ this week where we have three boards

1:47:42 ↗ it's just

1:47:43 ↗ if that's supposed to be the forum where

1:47:45 ↗ we provide feedback um that just

1:47:49 ↗ it seems like a system that's not going

1:47:51 ↗ to work and so i wonder if actually

1:47:53 ↗ the memo approach could be used in lieu

1:47:57 ↗ of obviously this would still involve

1:47:59 ↗ city staff presenting at multiple

1:48:01 ↗ meetings but

1:48:02 ↗ i just wonder if there's different

1:48:04 ↗ approaches that would involve that memo

1:48:05 ↗ to not only be used for council but also

1:48:08 ↗ for

1:48:08 ↗ like ppc for example because part of the

1:48:11 ↗ problem is ppc is

1:48:13 ↗ kind of mandated to be in the weeds at

1:48:15 ↗ the level that

1:48:17 ↗ i don't think we're necessarily always

1:48:18 ↗ supposed to get to so that would allow

1:48:20 ↗ for more tailored agendas as well so

1:48:23 ↗ uh

1:48:23 ↗ yeah

1:48:24 ↗ i'm thought

1:48:26 ↗ prompted from

1:48:27 ↗ other comments

1:48:30 ↗ any other

1:48:32 ↗ comments from

1:48:36 ↗ ford

1:48:40 ↗ dawn give a comment

1:48:42 ↗ yeah just done on your comment there

1:48:44 ↗ jamie i like i like that idea i'm

1:48:46 ↗ following it correctly it's something

1:48:47 ↗ along the lines of

1:48:49 ↗ they would provide us a memo

1:48:51 ↗ directing us what they're looking for so

1:48:54 ↗ where they want us to focus is that kind

1:48:56 ↗ of what you're thinking and then we

1:48:57 ↗ would be able to have our own discussion

1:48:59 ↗ and respond back to them

1:49:01 ↗ no i i was actually thinking the

1:49:02 ↗ opposite route where

1:49:04 ↗ we like the city would bring us a topic

1:49:07 ↗ so

1:49:08 ↗ like what we would be discussing on

1:49:10 ↗ thursday but as opposed to doing it in a

1:49:12 ↗ joint meeting it's just the

1:49:14 ↗ environmental board and coming out of

1:49:16 ↗ that meeting we're

1:49:18 ↗ getting a memo out that ppc could use i

1:49:20 ↗ understand there's time constraints but

1:49:22 ↗ it would be

1:49:23 ↗ we would provide feedback on the areas

1:49:24 ↗ that we think are important in

1:49:27 ↗ highlighting the areas that we think are

1:49:28 ↗ critical for their review of that same

1:49:31 ↗ part of the code

1:49:34 ↗ okay

1:49:35 ↗ i guess where i'm going out with you is

1:49:37 ↗ i agree with you that these joint

1:49:38 ↗ meetings can well they're interesting in

1:49:40 ↗ some wise

1:49:41 ↗ sometimes more often than not be quite

1:49:44 ↗ unproductive because there's just too

1:49:45 ↗ much

1:49:46 ↗ going on

1:49:54 ↗ great well that is fantastic feedback

1:49:56 ↗ thank you i will um take that i'll share

1:49:59 ↗ with the ppc staff tomorrow um ahead of

1:50:03 ↗ our next meeting on thursday and then

1:50:06 ↗ also look at how we improve the process

1:50:08 ↗ going forward maybe getting away from

1:50:10 ↗ the joint meetings

1:50:11 ↗ um but definitely moving forward with

1:50:13 ↗ the memo approach

1:50:16 ↗ yeah go ahead and it looks like we have

1:50:18 ↗ actually a couple late uh breaking

1:50:20 ↗ comments so and you want to um

1:50:22 ↗ share your comment

1:50:24 ↗ um i guess i just feel like the joint

1:50:27 ↗ meetings um since it's on the same

1:50:29 ↗ subject are fairly efficient

1:50:33 ↗ because

1:50:34 ↗ then there's just one big meeting for

1:50:37 ↗ everybody

1:50:39 ↗ but it's probably more it's mostly more

1:50:41 ↗ efficient for

1:50:43 ↗ staff

1:50:44 ↗ so i guess i'm looking out for staff

1:50:50 ↗ thank you and nancy

1:50:53 ↗ well i just wanted to state that i would

1:50:55 ↗ encourage everyone to speak up at the

1:50:57 ↗ next meeting i know three boards is

1:50:59 ↗ going to be challenging to communicate

1:51:01 ↗ together

1:51:02 ↗ but i think we come at it from a

1:51:05 ↗ different perspective than the other two

1:51:06 ↗ places ppc is kind of the administration

1:51:09 ↗ of the codes

1:51:11 ↗ and

1:51:11 ↗ uh the parks board is really focused on

1:51:14 ↗ parks we're looking at the big picture

1:51:15 ↗ overall stuff

1:51:17 ↗ and i have seen in the past i think that

1:51:20 ↗ the environment awards is a little

1:51:22 ↗ quieter at times at some of these

1:51:23 ↗ discussions and i would encourage us at

1:51:25 ↗ least to get our voice heard that's just

1:51:27 ↗ my two cents thank you

1:51:33 ↗ thank you nancy and then i think with

1:51:35 ↗ that we probably conclude our regular

1:51:38 ↗ agenda items

1:51:40 ↗ um

1:51:43 ↗ let me pull up our agenda

1:51:50 ↗ so i think next oh um reports um stacy

1:51:54 ↗ you're reviewing the 2022 environmental

1:51:56 ↗ courts schedule and that up to you

1:52:00 ↗ great thanks um i'll be brief uh just

1:52:03 ↗ as folks are aware

1:52:05 ↗ and just as a final reminder we do have

1:52:07 ↗ that joint media on thursday with the

1:52:09 ↗ parks board and ppc at 6 30 that's to

1:52:12 ↗ review landscape and tree canopy

1:52:15 ↗ sections of title 18.

1:52:18 ↗ we do

1:52:19 ↗ have a regular meeting next week as well

1:52:21 ↗ i know we have a few folks that will be

1:52:23 ↗ gone due to spring break

1:52:26 ↗ we repurposed that meeting to focus on

1:52:29 ↗ icap updates and there'll be a couple

1:52:31 ↗ topics i'll be looking for your input on

1:52:34 ↗ but looking forward to that discussion

1:52:36 ↗ it's been several months since we've had

1:52:38 ↗ a chance to talk

1:52:39 ↗ specifically about the icap and we're

1:52:41 ↗ getting to launch a couple of campaigns

1:52:43 ↗ so look forward to sharing those with

1:52:44 ↗ you

1:52:45 ↗ that packet should be coming out

1:52:47 ↗ tomorrow so just want to give folks a

1:52:49 ↗ heads up since there is a lot going on

1:52:52 ↗ right now with our meeting schedule

1:52:56 ↗ i have a couple other very brief updates

1:52:59 ↗ uh jamie when the time is appropriate to

1:53:01 ↗ share those

1:53:03 ↗ please go ahead okay great um no updates

1:53:06 ↗ on in-person meetings but i will alert

1:53:09 ↗ you as we learn more about those

1:53:12 ↗ and then just wanted to let folks know

1:53:14 ↗ that we did have four positions that

1:53:17 ↗ were open on the board this year

1:53:19 ↗ nancy jamie and i completed interviews

1:53:21 ↗ with the applicants and we've passed on

1:53:23 ↗ our recommendations to the mayor's

1:53:25 ↗ office

1:53:26 ↗ those positions will be filled in time

1:53:28 ↗ for our may meeting and we also

1:53:31 ↗ anticipate holding elections for our

1:53:33 ↗ chair and vice chair at the may meeting

1:53:36 ↗ and then we are also starting the

1:53:38 ↗ interview process for the sustainability

1:53:40 ↗ intern we had over

1:53:43 ↗ just about 40 applications and really

1:53:46 ↗ well qualified folks so i'm excited to

1:53:48 ↗ start talking to them and hopefully

1:53:50 ↗ we'll have that person on

1:53:52 ↗ by our may meeting

1:53:55 ↗ those are all the updates i had

1:53:58 ↗ thank you stacy any other

1:54:00 ↗ announcements or reports from the board

1:54:06 ↗ and it looks like you have one

1:54:08 ↗ i just had i remember one more comment

1:54:10 ↗ on our processes um stacey i just want

1:54:13 ↗ to say um the way that you are sending

1:54:15 ↗ out your emails um

1:54:18 ↗ and organizing everything makes

1:54:20 ↗ it very easy for me to find and it makes

1:54:23 ↗ it easy for me to find the meeting link

1:54:25 ↗ and all the information

1:54:27 ↗ uh so i appreciate the way you're doing

1:54:30 ↗ that

1:54:31 ↗ great thanks so there's a couple times

1:54:33 ↗ in the past and i think it even happened

1:54:36 ↗ with um

1:54:38 ↗ some of the joint meetings where i'm

1:54:40 ↗ really searching hard to find the

1:54:42 ↗ information

1:54:43 ↗ so maybe i need to improve my processes

1:54:46 ↗ organizing my emails

1:54:48 ↗ thank you

1:54:50 ↗ great thanks dan

1:54:52 ↗ thank you ann

1:54:54 ↗ any other items from the board

1:54:58 ↗ all right well hearing none i'm sad i'm

1:55:01 ↗ going to be missing the next couple

1:55:02 ↗ meetings as they'll be away but uh

1:55:05 ↗ um everyone have a great spring break if

1:55:07 ↗ you have that uh and uh

1:55:10 ↗ look forward to uh meeting up with you

1:55:12 ↗ all in in may and that we're adjourned

1:55:15 ↗ have a good night everyone hope you're

1:55:17 ↗ going to be out having fun jamie

1:55:19 ↗ i hope so too yeah

1:55:22 ↗ thanks everyone take care bye

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