Park Board · Monday, May 18, 2026 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of May 4, 2026

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 05-04-26 Park Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave May 4, 2026 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

Elections of Chair and Vice Chair

Action · packet pp.5–11

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Staff report:

Continue the

Park Bond Renewal Update

Action · Robin Spear, Park Planning and Development Manager · packet pp.13–30

Topics: Parks

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Staff report:

The purpose of tonight’s presentation is to obtain Issaquah Park Board feedback on these topics to inform of the Issaquah Parks Code update, specifically:

Park Rules Update

Discussion · Dale Markey-Crimp, Assistant to the City Administrator Laura Haas, Department Operations Specialist · packet pp.31–51

Topics: Parks

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Staff report:

N I C K O L S O N T H M AY 1 8 2 0 2 6 P A R K B O A R D

Trails Standards Capstone Presentation

Nick Olson, Youth Advisor

Topics: Parks

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5. REPORTS

Director's Report

Chairperson's Report

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0:26 ↗ Okay, we are recording.

0:30 ↗ Everybody knows

0:34 ↗ >> camera's disabled again.

0:47 ↗ Oh, it started recording.

0:49 ↗ >> Okay. Is that from the last meeting?

0:53 ↗ >> Uh, that's the last meeting.

0:58 ↗ So

1:05 ↗ I sh

1:37 ↗ I know why that won't come up.

1:46 ↗ You share your screen.

1:52 ↗ like a cat or something like that.

1:54 ↗ >> That's what I was looking for.

1:58 ↗ >> See, if I click on that, it just brings

2:00 ↗ up a pin or

2:03 ↗ screen.

2:05 ↗ >> That's me.

2:10 ↗ >> Yeah.

2:11 ↗ >> All right.

2:11 ↗ >> All right. No video for what it

2:13 ↗ >> did last time. Bummer.

2:17 ↗ >> Okay.

2:17 ↗ >> Okay. Well, no one online.

2:23 ↗ >> Everybody else is online, huh?

2:26 ↗ >> Oh, Jessica.

2:27 ↗ >> Yeah, Hannah's first.

2:29 ↗ >> Hey guys.

2:30 ↗ >> Hello.

2:34 ↗ >> We're having camera troubles again.

2:37 ↗ >> We're going to get started here any

2:38 ↗ second.

2:39 ↗ >> There you go.

2:40 ↗ >> Oh, it won't even let me turn my uh

2:42 ↗ camera on.

2:44 ↗ >> Oh. Oh,

2:46 ↗ >> it says only select participants can

2:48 ↗ share video.

2:50 ↗ >> Interesting.

2:51 ↗ >> Just just heads up.

2:52 ↗ >> Okay.

2:58 ↗ >> That that would just show this.

3:03 ↗ >> Oh,

3:08 ↗ there we go.

3:09 ↗ >> Okay. Well, you can at least share this.

3:11 ↗ >> Ready?

3:15 ↗ sharing 702.

3:17 ↗ >> All right. Well, to 702

3:20 ↗ as chair, I will call this May 18th,

3:23 ↗ 2026 meeting of the park board to order.

3:27 ↗ Do some roll call here.

3:30 ↗ Start on the screen as usual. Hannah

3:32 ↗ Novakovic.

3:36 ↗ >> Thank you.

3:36 ↗ >> I'm here.

3:37 ↗ >> Thank you. Uh Jeffrey Newell

3:42 ↗ up here. Martha Gner

3:47 ↗ up here.

3:49 ↗ >> Beia Gmer Gonzalez

3:50 ↗ >> here.

3:51 ↗ >> Thank you. Welcome.

3:52 ↗ >> Thank you.

3:56 ↗ >> Marlene Waxy

3:59 ↗ not here.

4:01 ↗ Jane Tushi

4:05 ↗ not here.

4:07 ↗ Diana Ren

4:10 ↗ not here. I see she's I wonder I mean it

4:13 ↗ says no longer has access to the chat

4:16 ↗ but that was from 54.

4:18 ↗ >> Oh sorry there it is. Okay.

4:21 ↗ >> Tim Mley

4:24 ↗ not here.

4:25 ↗ >> Chris Kovac

4:26 ↗ >> present.

4:28 ↗ Katie Bell

4:31 ↗ not here.

4:33 ↗ >> David Lou

4:33 ↗ >> present.

4:36 ↗ Thank you. And you're gonna be stuck in

4:38 ↗ your opposite.

4:44 ↗ >> Um, all right. Do a little roll call

4:46 ↗ there.

4:48 ↗ >> Um,

4:50 ↗ we don't have a quorum

4:54 ↗ as I assume. So, we cannot

4:57 ↗ >> proceed with the elections. Is that

4:58 ↗ correct?

5:00 ↗ >> Correct. Or the motion.

5:02 ↗ Is that

5:02 ↗ >> or the motion? Or the motion. Or the

5:04 ↗ motions.

5:06 ↗ H.

5:08 ↗ >> Yeah. Okay.

5:11 ↗ It's gonna make it.

5:13 ↗ >> That'll be an interesting Okay. Well,

5:16 ↗ we'll still give you an update on

5:18 ↗ everything. Um, and then we'll have to

5:20 ↗ maybe

5:22 ↗ bring it back or determine if we want

5:25 ↗ another special meeting where we we have

5:27 ↗ quorum. Okay.

5:28 ↗ >> Um, I'll ask Tisha on the rules and

5:31 ↗ regulations for that to see if we can

5:34 ↗ vote with

5:36 ↗ um via email or without a meeting or we

5:38 ↗ need to call another meeting. I'm

5:39 ↗ assuming we would probably need to call

5:41 ↗ another special meeting.

5:42 ↗ >> So, we'll we'll work on that on the back

5:44 ↗ end.

5:45 ↗ >> Maybe if people filter in here, we can

5:48 ↗ >> Yeah.

5:49 ↗ >> re restart ourselves up.

5:51 ↗ >> Um

5:52 ↗ uh has everybody had a chance to review

5:54 ↗ the minutes from the last meeting?

5:57 ↗ >> Is there any corrections or edits?

6:02 ↗ Uh with no corrections on behalf of the

6:04 ↗ board, the minutes are approved.

6:07 ↗ >> Anybody here for public comment?

6:10 ↗ >> Excellent. Um uh please uh take a moment

6:14 ↗ to introduce yourself. Let us know if

6:16 ↗ you're a resident and if so, what

6:18 ↗ neighborhood and please do your best to

6:20 ↗ keep your comments to 5 minutes.

6:22 ↗ >> Okay. Thank you.

6:23 ↗ >> Hello, my name is Jonathan Smith. Um I'm

6:26 ↗ a resident uh of Isiqua. I live in

6:28 ↗ Squawk Quark Mountain. I walked over

6:31 ↗ here. Um, I've been here for over 30

6:35 ↗ years.

6:36 ↗ Um, I was recently on the environmental

6:39 ↗ board.

6:41 ↗ Um, I host a monthly volunteer litter

6:44 ↗ cleanup group in Isiqua.

6:46 ↗ I've been doing that for each month for

6:49 ↗ the last four and a half years. We meet

6:51 ↗ the first Saturday of every month at

6:53 ↗ post office parking lot.

6:57 ↗ Martha's been frequently attended that

7:00 ↗ and her husband. Um this year um I

7:04 ↗ engaged with the Isiqua High School

7:07 ↗ graphics design class to create a PSA.

7:10 ↗ That's a public service announcement

7:13 ↗ which basically says please don't.

7:17 ↗ I met with the students in their

7:19 ↗ classroom

7:20 ↗ in March to set some design requirements

7:24 ↗ basically um size, colors, message,

7:28 ↗ things like that. Um I returned to the

7:31 ↗ classroom in April with a group of

7:33 ↗ people from Mesaqua um to judge the

7:37 ↗ final designs and to pick pick a few to

7:40 ↗ print. Okay. The idea was to to do a

7:43 ↗ real world project for the high school

7:46 ↗ students.

7:48 ↗ Um I I um th those that we chose we had

7:53 ↗ printed and they're uh maybe they're on

7:55 ↗ the the table. They're 8 and 1 half by

7:57 ↗ 11 flyers. Um I'm here to today to

8:01 ↗ request approval to post the flyers in

8:05 ↗ the public parks, the skate park, the

8:08 ↗ softball fields, the trails, etc. My

8:11 ↗ real goal here is twofold. One, to get a

8:15 ↗ PSA out for kids and young adults about

8:19 ↗ littering. Okay,

8:22 ↗ final letter. And also, I really want to

8:26 ↗ do this to show the students that it

8:30 ↗ created these posters so they can see

8:32 ↗ their work posted publicly.

8:36 ↗ So, um I um we've got five different

8:40 ↗ posters. There's there's u they're

8:44 ↗ pretty small. They're um

8:47 ↗ kind of geared for different ages. There

8:49 ↗ are two there for that are for uh

8:53 ↗ elementary school, then two for say

8:56 ↗ middle school and high school, and then

8:57 ↗ one for

8:59 ↗ of young adults.

9:02 ↗ So, um, I'd like to leave that with this

9:05 ↗ group to determine if they can be

9:08 ↗ posted. Um, and I'll leave you with with

9:11 ↗ some some

9:13 ↗ copies. Great.

9:14 ↗ >> If you uh choose to post them, that's

9:17 ↗ fine. If you need more, I can provide

9:18 ↗ more. If you don't if you don't if

9:21 ↗ you're not able to post them, I'd like

9:22 ↗ to get them back so I can find some

9:24 ↗ other way to get them posted.

9:27 ↗ >> Absolutely.

9:27 ↗ >> So, anyway, that it's been a good

9:30 ↗ project. This is the third year that

9:31 ↗ I've done it at the high school and this

9:32 ↗ is but this is the first time I

9:35 ↗ approached the parks department to get

9:37 ↗ it posted. Last time I I just visited

9:40 ↗ local area fast food restaurants and

9:42 ↗ businesses and asked them to get them

9:44 ↗ posted. Uh earlier today I visited um

9:48 ↗ Lake Sam State Park and talked to the

9:50 ↗ park manager and they've agreed to post

9:53 ↗ post them in their park as well.

9:54 ↗ >> Great. So, okay.

10:01 ↗ >> And um I have um if there's anybody

10:06 ↗ that's interested in joining our litter

10:08 ↗ group, I'm going to leave a few of these

10:10 ↗ um cards that kind of give information

10:14 ↗ about our litter cleanup activities.

10:16 ↗ Great.

10:17 ↗ >> All right. Thanks so much. I'll put

10:19 ↗ these over here and I'm done.

10:21 ↗ >> Do this unofficially anyways.

10:23 ↗ >> Yes.

10:26 ↗ Okay,

10:26 ↗ >> perfect. Thanks.

10:27 ↗ >> Thank you. We'll sit in the back for a

10:29 ↗ little while and listen in.

10:30 ↗ >> Okay.

10:35 ↗ >> We'd love to hear about the approval

10:38 ↗ process, how that looks because one of

10:41 ↗ our topics for tonight is park rules.

10:45 ↗ You need take notes or you need one of

10:48 ↗ my notes.

10:48 ↗ >> Oh, no. It's okay.

10:51 ↗ Yeah.

10:51 ↗ >> Thank you.

10:52 ↗ >> Thank you so much.

10:57 ↗ Does anyone online? I don't think

10:59 ↗ there's any public comment online.

11:09 ↗ >> All right. So, our next step is on

11:11 ↗ regular business.

11:13 ↗ Our

11:15 ↗ first

11:17 ↗ line of business on record was to uh put

11:20 ↗ up for election of chair and vice chair.

11:24 ↗ Um but since we do not have a quorum, we

11:27 ↗ will not pursue that at this exact

11:29 ↗ moment. For those that are new to the

11:30 ↗ board uh

11:34 ↗ historically in April, um we nominate um

11:38 ↗ chair and vice chair and add new members

11:40 ↗ to the board. So welcome.

11:42 ↗ um it's not on our um part here and we

11:45 ↗ did a roll call and as you can see we're

11:47 ↗ a little bit light on attendance tonight

11:49 ↗ but um I'm going to add Hawk on our A

11:51 ↗ here and maybe you can um introduce

11:53 ↗ yourself and tell us a little about

11:55 ↗ yourself and join the park.

11:57 ↗ >> Yeah. Hi. Um my name is Leah Gmer

12:00 ↗ Gonzalez. Uh I've been living in Isiqua

12:03 ↗ in Oldtown for about a little over three

12:05 ↗ and a half years now. Um, and uh, up

12:09 ↗ until last week I have been working with

12:12 ↗ the Mountains to Sound Greenway. We're

12:14 ↗ based out of the state park. We do a lot

12:16 ↗ of work around town um, and other areas

12:19 ↗ in King County. Um, and I am uh

12:24 ↗ finishing my bachelor's in environmental

12:26 ↗ studies and I am just I was really

12:30 ↗ interested in

12:32 ↗ the park board to see how these

12:36 ↗ decisions are are made in real life and

12:38 ↗ also to to bring some of my own um

12:42 ↗ excitement about the parks uh hopefully

12:45 ↗ to serve the the community that I'm part

12:48 ↗ of. So, thank you for having me.

12:51 ↗ Welcome.

12:52 ↗ >> Um, as previously noted, but I'm Ryan

12:54 ↗ Olsson, the current chair, not being

12:56 ↗ voted out tonight.

13:00 ↗ >> Um,

13:02 ↗ uh, and I'll just, if you guys want to

13:03 ↗ go around, introduce yourselves. I'm

13:05 ↗ loop.

13:05 ↗ >> Uh, David Lou, I'm the vice chair. I've

13:08 ↗ been here for about four years on the

13:09 ↗ board, about nine years in Isqua. I'm

13:11 ↗ over in Cougar Mountain. One of the few

13:13 ↗ Cougar Mountain people on the board. Um,

13:15 ↗ but yeah, have a kid in Sunset

13:17 ↗ Elementary. So, I'm a dog. So I'm

13:20 ↗ basically your squad family. But

13:24 ↗ >> I'm Chris Kovac. Lived in the squa for

13:27 ↗ 26 years and raised two kids here and

13:31 ↗ we're up on Squawk Mountain and I've

13:32 ↗ been on the park board

13:35 ↗ like

13:36 ↗ 10 years or something. And I'm coming up

13:38 ↗ at a a date. We'll see what happens

13:42 ↗ after that. But um and before this I was

13:44 ↗ on the Friends of Lakes Mama State Park

13:47 ↗ board when that first started and uh and

13:50 ↗ that's kind of where I got my uh my uh

13:54 ↗ education and being on how to be on a

13:56 ↗ board of what to do. And um welcome.

14:01 ↗ >> Yeah, I'm I'm Nick. I'm a senior at

14:03 ↗ Gibson High School and I was on the park

14:07 ↗ board since uh I think January. Um so

14:11 ↗ yeah.

14:13 ↗ I'm Laura Hos. I'm department operations

14:15 ↗ specialist. I started in March, so I'm

14:18 ↗ relatively new as well. Um, and this is

14:21 ↗ my what, fourth meeting, so

14:25 ↗ doing well.

14:27 ↗ >> And I'm Robin Spear, park planning and

14:28 ↗ development manager. And I've been with

14:30 ↗ the city almost three years in

14:32 ↗ September.

14:34 ↗ So before that, just both in the public

14:36 ↗ and the private sector. But it's fun.

14:39 ↗ It's fun designing parks. So It's

14:41 ↗ respectfully fun designing the Vanessa

14:43 ↗ cloth. So,

14:45 ↗ >> awesome. Um, wonderful. Well, our next

14:49 ↗ uh point of regular business uh which

14:52 ↗ has been kind of the the main topic here

14:54 ↗ for the last uh four meetings or so is

14:57 ↗ the park bond renewal update as

14:59 ↗ presented by Robin.

15:01 ↗ >> All right. Yeah, I think this is this

15:03 ↗ our fourth meeting, third meeting, or

15:05 ↗ fourth meeting already?

15:06 ↗ >> Yeah.

15:06 ↗ >> Yeah. The park bond renewal is actually

15:08 ↗ picking up quite a bit of speed. we're

15:10 ↗ hearing a lot more from the community.

15:12 ↗ So we wanted to come back to everybody

15:14 ↗ tonight um to

15:19 ↗ purpose.

15:19 ↗ >> That's okay. Yeah. So tonight our

15:22 ↗ purpose was really to continue the

15:24 ↗ discussion that we've been having

15:26 ↗ regarding the park bond renewal,

15:28 ↗ regarding the different types of

15:29 ↗ projects um and the levy rate that we

15:32 ↗ set um and to find out if we're nearing

15:35 ↗ a consens consensus on the potential

15:38 ↗ park bond renewal measure that could go

15:40 ↗ to isiqua voters in November. Um, and

15:44 ↗ again, we want to give you the

15:45 ↗ opportunity to provide more feedback.

15:48 ↗ Uh, if you've heard anything else out in

15:49 ↗ the community, if you have any concerns

15:51 ↗ or issues or just questions, uh, we're

15:54 ↗ here with as much detail as we can give

15:56 ↗ you.

15:58 ↗ >> Next slide.

16:00 ↗ >> Laura, if you want to hit present in

16:02 ↗ teams, it might get a lot bigger.

16:04 ↗ >> Top right corner.

16:06 ↗ >> Oh, I thought I already did that. I'm

16:07 ↗ sorry guys.

16:10 ↗ >> Present.

16:13 ↗ Maybe

16:14 ↗ >> guess not.

16:16 ↗ >> Oh no, we are having all sorts of over

16:19 ↗ there.

16:21 ↗ >> Okay, so we are on

16:22 ↗ >> we're on the big screen now.

16:24 ↗ >> Okay.

16:25 ↗ >> Okay, so questions and discussion

16:27 ↗ tonight. Number one again, does the park

16:30 ↗ board support the recommendation from

16:32 ↗ administration

16:34 ↗ uh to move forward with a park bond

16:35 ↗ renewal at 8 cents uh per 10,000

16:39 ↗ assessed valuation? Uh, number two, does

16:41 ↗ a park board support the package of

16:44 ↗ identified projects, which we'll get

16:45 ↗ into in a little bit for the park bond

16:48 ↗ renewal? Um, number three, does a park

16:50 ↗ board support the recommendation to

16:52 ↗ reinforce the priority of continuing

16:55 ↗ community efforts on the expansion of

16:57 ↗ the Julius Bone Pool and TVP

17:01 ↗ reinvisioning work we're already doing.

17:03 ↗ So, that's just a continuation of that

17:05 ↗ for the master plan. And number four,

17:09 ↗ um, we just established this, but we're

17:10 ↗ going to have a park bond renewal open

17:12 ↗ house on June 2nd, um, starting at 6 PM.

17:16 ↗ Just a short meeting, 6:00 to 7:00 p.m.,

17:19 ↗ but that might also give us another

17:20 ↗ opportunity for a public meeting where,

17:23 ↗ uh, we could step aside and vote

17:25 ↗ >> um, on the measure. So, let's let me

17:28 ↗ let's dig into that or we'll dig into

17:30 ↗ that on the side, but um, maybe we can

17:33 ↗ get enough people to have a consensus

17:34 ↗ there.

17:36 ↗ Okay, next slide.

17:39 ↗ So, we've been meeting with with the

17:41 ↗ boards and commissions. We let's see. I

17:43 ↗ think we last met with park board May

17:45 ↗ 4th. Then on the 5th, Jeff and I met

17:48 ↗ with services, safety, and parks

17:50 ↗ committee. Had a really good discussion

17:52 ↗ there. Overall, very positive. Uh we

17:55 ↗ looked again at the 8 cents versus 16

17:58 ↗ cents versus a 12 cent levy. uh they

18:01 ↗ wanted us to do more public outreach and

18:04 ↗ get more community feedback. So that's

18:06 ↗ the open house which I think will be a

18:08 ↗ great opportunity coming up in a few

18:10 ↗ weeks. Um and then the city council had

18:14 ↗ their retreat on the 9th. So again, they

18:17 ↗ were looking at what sounded most

18:20 ↗ feasible, what sounded correct for the

18:22 ↗ the levy funding itself. Um and then the

18:25 ↗ list of projects, they still supported

18:26 ↗ that list of projects. thought it

18:28 ↗ provided a really good variety of

18:30 ↗ projects throughout the city. Um, and we

18:33 ↗ had, I think, over a hundred emails from

18:36 ↗ the community, very positive feedback

18:38 ↗ about the three athletic fields at the

18:41 ↗ elementary schools. So, that was a rush

18:44 ↗ of comments, but it's good to know that

18:46 ↗ the the word is getting out to the

18:48 ↗ community. They're supporting it. Um,

18:50 ↗ and so far, I've not heard anything

18:52 ↗ negative come back on that.

18:55 ↗ Okay. So, we'll just quickly recap the

18:59 ↗ proposed projects.

19:00 ↗ >> That might be a good one.

19:03 ↗ >> Yeah. So, Leah, I don't know if you had

19:05 ↗ a chance to go through those. Okay. So,

19:07 ↗ the first one is the e house, which

19:09 ↗ would be the full restoration and a

19:11 ↗ corporation into Confluence Park. So,

19:14 ↗ that's basically a gathering space for

19:16 ↗ the community if we rehabilitate the

19:19 ↗ building. um from my research uh is

19:24 ↗ about 1500 square feet that could hold

19:26 ↗ between 100 and 150 people. So, a great

19:30 ↗ source, revenue source coming up. A

19:32 ↗ great space, flexible space, um usable

19:36 ↗ space. Uh people are always asking for

19:39 ↗ that in the community. So, great

19:40 ↗ opportunity there. Uh the Bill Ramos

19:43 ↗ trail head improvements. So, we're

19:45 ↗ looking I don't know if anyone's driven

19:46 ↗ over there lately, but the rats are

19:48 ↗ getting pretty bad over there. So, we're

19:50 ↗ thinking about new new paving, new

19:52 ↗ servicing, restrooms, um some other

19:55 ↗ facilities, definitely drinking

19:57 ↗ fountains, um picnic tables, maybe some

20:00 ↗ seating areas, which Nick and I have

20:02 ↗ heard the seniors really want more

20:04 ↗ seating along the trails. So, that's

20:06 ↗ something we'd be focusing on.

20:09 ↗ Uh the next set would be two new trail

20:13 ↗ corridors that really enhance our creeks

20:16 ↗ to peaks vision. Uh the first Harvey

20:19 ↗ Manning Park, formerly known as Bergma,

20:22 ↗ uh which get it would get us connections

20:23 ↗ into up and into Krueger Mountain and

20:26 ↗ over to the Talis area. And then Squawk

20:29 ↗ Mountain with our recent purchase of

20:31 ↗ KCari right next to Wayouth would give

20:33 ↗ us a chance to get up back up into

20:35 ↗ Squawk, which would be really great. The

20:38 ↗ three athletic field conversions we're

20:40 ↗ looking at were mainly the Isip Valley

20:42 ↗ Elementary, the Grand Ridge Elementary,

20:45 ↗ and the Clark Elementary schools. I

20:48 ↗ think the discussion with council and um

20:52 ↗ other boards that they really like to

20:53 ↗ move forward with those three with

20:56 ↗ Central Park pad 2 kind of as a backup

20:58 ↗ as needed.

21:00 ↗ Okay.

21:02 ↗ And then next that would be other park

21:05 ↗ amenities such as expanded pickle ball

21:08 ↗ at Central Park. I did a quick design.

21:10 ↗ It looks like we could fit probably four

21:12 ↗ full-size tennis courts there which

21:14 ↗ would split up into pickle ball or just

21:16 ↗ pickle ball courts there. Um really

21:20 ↗ important. We really don't have a really

21:22 ↗ nice all-inclusive playground, which

21:24 ↗ with Tivet Valley becoming the next

21:26 ↗ master plan community park. We're going

21:28 ↗ to revision that would be an excellent

21:30 ↗ place to put that all-inclusive

21:32 ↗ playground. And then of course, I was

21:35 ↗ just at Tibet Valley Park today and it

21:38 ↗ was a big dog park this afternoon. So I

21:41 ↗ think needless to say, we really need a

21:43 ↗ dedicated dog park at Tibets as well and

21:46 ↗ get them off the field is a big

21:49 ↗ complaint. and one of the things our

21:50 ↗ park ranger really had to tackle quite a

21:52 ↗ bit out there. So, those are the

21:55 ↗ proposed projects. Those haven't

21:57 ↗ changed. It's a really great package,

21:59 ↗ really diverse package. So, we feel

22:01 ↗ pretty confident that it just allows a

22:03 ↗ little bit of everything, a little bit

22:05 ↗ of recreation for everybody.

22:07 ↗ >> Just a quick question. When you guys are

22:08 ↗ forming your forming your estimates, is

22:11 ↗ it sort of like in the mean or is it

22:13 ↗ more like a trying not to exceed price?

22:17 ↗ Just try to understand.

22:18 ↗ >> It's a mean. It really depends on, you

22:20 ↗ know, how you develop the design of the

22:22 ↗ project. Um, what year obviously we're

22:25 ↗ we're going to escalate the loan grade

22:27 ↗ takes for the project. Um, I do factor

22:29 ↗ in design fees, um, permitting fees in

22:33 ↗ that and um, just a general when I'm

22:36 ↗ calling round to other what we've seen

22:37 ↗ and what we've seen other consultants

22:39 ↗ spend or other cities spend.

22:41 ↗ >> So, I'm combining all that together when

22:43 ↗ I make these. Um, and we have Burger,

22:45 ↗ another consultant looking at this that

22:47 ↗ can tighten them up, too.

22:49 ↗ >> Okay, thank you.

22:51 ↗ >> And this is assuming that that I think

22:54 ↗ none of the fields were lit either.

22:56 ↗ That's another component to it that adds

22:58 ↗ quite a bit of expense, but right now

23:01 ↗ we're assuming not.

23:04 ↗ Okay. And here's a map of our proposed

23:06 ↗ projects. As you can see, it's a lot of

23:08 ↗ focus from west to east and then down

23:12 ↗ into squawk. So again, it it really

23:15 ↗ supports our creeks to peaks idea of

23:17 ↗ getting every park, every trail

23:19 ↗ connected as much as possible throughout

23:21 ↗ the city. Let's make it a more walkable,

23:24 ↗ livable city.

23:28 ↗ Next slide.

23:31 ↗ Okay. So, yeah, again, the criteria that

23:34 ↗ we were looking at when we picked the

23:36 ↗ the uh package of projects, we really

23:39 ↗ started to look at the near-term

23:41 ↗ projects. The feedback that we heard

23:43 ↗ when we were doing that list of

23:44 ↗ near-term and when we were looking at

23:46 ↗ the 2024 park system plan update, we

23:50 ↗ wanted a mix of projects with available

23:53 ↗ funding to address the diversity of

23:55 ↗ community uses. Uh so was it all put

23:58 ↗ into one bucket per se, but everybody um

24:02 ↗ the projects were spread out so it

24:04 ↗ really accommodated a little bit for

24:06 ↗ everybody. Um projects that didn't have

24:08 ↗ a high level of site complexity. I

24:11 ↗ you're looking at some like Tibbitz, I

24:14 ↗ think we mentioned this before, where it

24:16 ↗ has Tibbitz Creek, it's in the flood

24:18 ↗ plane. I mean that there's a lot of um

24:21 ↗ pros and cons that go along with it, but

24:23 ↗ along with that a little bit extra

24:25 ↗ design, development, permitting, so it

24:28 ↗ just takes a little bit longer. We want

24:29 ↗ to make sure that we can get these

24:31 ↗ projects constructed in a reasonable

24:33 ↗ amount of time. And again, does have a

24:36 ↗ level of controversy or community

24:38 ↗ concerns? And then we wanted to consider

24:41 ↗ a mix of projects and locations that had

24:44 ↗ a geographic distribution and looking at

24:46 ↗ our gap areas, seeing where those were,

24:48 ↗ making sure we're we're fulfilling that.

24:52 ↗ Okay, next slide and timing and next

24:55 ↗ steps. So, here we are. May 18th,

24:58 ↗ parkboard meeting and discussion. Uh

25:00 ↗ June 2nd, we hope you all can make it to

25:03 ↗ the public meeting in the open house. Um

25:06 ↗ I think in between either that or the

25:09 ↗ June 15th meeting, we can have um a

25:12 ↗ special meeting, but we'll coordinate

25:13 ↗ that so we can vote.

25:15 ↗ Um and then June 15th or the 29th, the

25:19 ↗ city council decision will happen. And

25:22 ↗ then early August, we need by August

25:24 ↗ 4th, I I believe it is, we need to get

25:26 ↗ ballot information to King County

25:29 ↗ elections and then November 3rd, the

25:31 ↗ general election. That is where we're

25:33 ↗ at. We're moving really fast, but so far

25:36 ↗ we're hearing really positive feedback

25:37 ↗ on it.

25:40 ↗ And I know we were going to make a

25:42 ↗ motion, but we'll table that for

25:43 ↗ tonight.

25:45 ↗ >> Yeah, I know the

25:47 ↗ in the intro you had the questions for

25:50 ↗ the group. Um,

25:53 ↗ and you know, obviously we can tackle

25:55 ↗ some of those in terms of support

25:57 ↗ itself, but I have to say the out the

26:00 ↗ outpouring of support that I heard for

26:02 ↗ the elementary school parks was

26:06 ↗ >> substantial.

26:07 ↗ >> Yes.

26:08 ↗ >> Um,

26:10 ↗ I heard it from everyone I know that

26:11 ↗ >> Oh, good.

26:12 ↗ >> like good.

26:13 ↗ >> PTA's emailing out full slates of

26:16 ↗ everybody. People are like, "You're on

26:17 ↗ the parkboard, right? Let me tell you

26:18 ↗ how I feel about that." Good. Let's do

26:19 ↗ it. Let's do it. So there's feedback on

26:22 ↗ that. I mean, we've obviously as a board

26:24 ↗ talked about these projects for a

26:25 ↗ >> while,

26:28 ↗ >> and you know, have no motion to make

26:30 ↗ tonight due to attendance, but um that

26:34 ↗ one in particular is one that I heard

26:36 ↗ the absolute most of.

26:37 ↗ >> Right. That's what we heard, too.

26:39 ↗ >> Any other

26:40 ↗ >> Yeah.

26:40 ↗ >> projects that people are hearing in the

26:42 ↗ community that are of interest or

26:44 ↗ getting any kind of support behind? Just

26:48 ↗ out of curiosity. Nothing particular

26:50 ↗ about the rest of the list from since

26:53 ↗ our last meeting. Oh yeah, Hannah,

26:55 ↗ please.

26:58 ↗ >> Sorry, always forget to take off the

27:00 ↗ mic. Um, pickle ball courts. People were

27:03 ↗ so excited about the prospect of more

27:05 ↗ pickle ball courts.

27:07 ↗ Um, and I, this was more of like me

27:11 ↗ educating, but talking about Ek House,

27:14 ↗ like as I, as I was able to educate my

27:17 ↗ community and my neighbors about it,

27:19 ↗ people were really excit like I was kind

27:21 ↗ of surprised how excited people got

27:23 ↗ about e house. So, um, not something

27:26 ↗ that people came forward to me about.

27:28 ↗ Um, like like I said, the pickle ball

27:30 ↗ courts people were like really excited

27:32 ↗ about. Um, but once we talked about it,

27:34 ↗ there was a lot of excitement about the

27:37 ↗ about that. So, I just wanted to share

27:39 ↗ that.

27:40 ↗ >> Oh, great.

27:41 ↗ >> Wonderful. Thank you.

27:42 ↗ >> Yeah. For my various dads with sports

27:45 ↗ kids, they were all excited about the

27:47 ↗ fields at the elementary schools. They

27:49 ↗ were all like, "Wait, are we doing all

27:50 ↗ the elementary schools?" I was like,

27:52 ↗ "No no."

27:54 ↗ But another reaction was the pickle ball

27:56 ↗ courts. They were excited about that for

27:57 ↗ a different reason, which is the parking

27:59 ↗ would then free up at pad five and six

28:01 ↗ for those fields. But yes, in theory.

28:06 ↗ >> Yeah, they're they're excited about that

28:07 ↗ space,

28:08 ↗ >> right?

28:12 ↗ >> And we did we we definitely heard you

28:14 ↗ more about the pool as well. So that's

28:16 ↗ why we were going to split that up into

28:18 ↗ a second motion, but make sure that

28:20 ↗ following this that we were kind of

28:22 ↗ reconstituting the the um committee for

28:26 ↗ the pool as well because I think that's

28:28 ↗ something that's much needed, obviously

28:30 ↗ much wanted. So we didn't want to let

28:32 ↗ that drop out.

28:34 ↗ >> I've heard that um the dog park idea

28:37 ↗ Tibbitz is great both from they need a

28:41 ↗ place to go and then there's another

28:43 ↗ place that they need to not be.

28:44 ↗ >> Yes. sort of a dual benefit there.

28:48 ↗ >> Yeah.

28:53 ↗ >> Okay.

28:56 ↗ >> Okay. Yeah. If available and we'll we'll

28:58 ↗ send out more information. Uh we have a

29:00 ↗ we'll get a flyer together for June 2nd

29:03 ↗ um with some facts and information on

29:05 ↗ all the projects as well. But we hope to

29:08 ↗ see you there.

29:11 ↗ >> Wonderful. If we have any additional

29:13 ↗ questions or discussion for

29:16 ↗ >> Yeah.

29:18 ↗ >> Okay.

29:20 ↗ >> Uh moving on. Our next topic for tonight

29:26 ↗ be the park rules update.

29:28 ↗ >> Let me close this up

29:32 ↗ by Dale Marky Crimos.

29:36 ↗ >> Hello everyone.

29:37 ↗ >> Hello again.

29:37 ↗ >> It's so good to be back. I can sit where

29:40 ↗ I don't have to sit here. I'm like, do I

29:42 ↗ need to go over to the staff area?

29:46 ↗ >> Laura's going to pull up presentation

29:47 ↗ and I'll give us a little bit of a frame

29:49 ↗ for this evening.

30:00 ↗ >> There we go. Why is it not showing?

30:02 ↗ >> There it is.

30:03 ↗ >> It's from the beginning. There we go.

30:05 ↗ >> Awesome.

30:07 ↗ >> Yay. Did it.

30:10 ↗ So, we are we are back. Well, I guess

30:12 ↗ I'm back and now I've got a new partner

30:14 ↗ in crime or partner, I guess, in the

30:16 ↗ opposite of crime, which is creating

30:18 ↗ law. Um, so Laura and I are here this

30:21 ↗ evening to get some feedback on a couple

30:22 ↗ of topics related to this project. Um,

30:25 ↗ specifically, we would love to uh get

30:28 ↗ Parkboard perspective on the

30:31 ↗ incorporation of the community feedback

30:32 ↗ from the survey uh and also on potential

30:36 ↗ approaches to enforcement. We've got two

30:39 ↗ key questions this evening. Um, and so

30:41 ↗ we've got them up here in front of you

30:43 ↗ right now. And then what Laura and I are

30:44 ↗ going to do is actually split this

30:46 ↗ presentation up a little bit. Laura's

30:48 ↗ going to talk about the community survey

30:50 ↗ and then pose that first question. We'll

30:52 ↗ have some time for questions and

30:54 ↗ discussion and then I'll take the the

30:56 ↗ latter half um and talk a little bit

30:59 ↗ about enforcement, what we learned from

31:01 ↗ peer cities, what we learned from the

31:03 ↗ survey um and pose this question about

31:06 ↗ what feedback do you have about our

31:08 ↗ potential approaches to enforcement that

31:10 ↗ we're considering right now as we

31:11 ↗ develop this code, this draft code. Um

31:14 ↗ so with that, um actually I'll do the

31:16 ↗ next slide, Laura, and then I'll turn it

31:17 ↗ over to you. So this is just a little

31:19 ↗ bit of context. I believe all of you

31:21 ↗ were were present for the uh the uh

31:26 ↗ February meeting where Jeff and I

31:27 ↗ presented on this particular project.

31:30 ↗ But by way of a refresher, um this

31:33 ↗ project on park rules and regulations um

31:37 ↗ was first introduced to the city council

31:39 ↗ in January. Uh, I think Jeff has known

31:41 ↗ this for a long time, but my new fun

31:43 ↗ fact about the city of Isiqua is that

31:45 ↗ despite being a city of parks, uh, we

31:48 ↗ don't actually have any codified rules

31:50 ↗ about what people can and cannot do in

31:52 ↗ our parks. Um, and so this was

31:54 ↗ introduced to the council in January.

31:56 ↗ Then Jeff and I came here to the park

31:58 ↗ board meeting in February to share a

32:00 ↗ little bit about the proposed project.

32:03 ↗ At the time, the board uh, gave a big

32:05 ↗ thumbs up to moving forward. Um and then

32:08 ↗ over the course of the last few months,

32:09 ↗ uh we've been in the process of both

32:12 ↗ designing and administering a community

32:14 ↗ survey around park use and park rule

32:17 ↗ potential rules and regulations as well

32:20 ↗ as um engaging in conversation with

32:23 ↗ staff members who the creation of this

32:26 ↗ set of rules would would touch their

32:29 ↗ work. Um and then also having

32:31 ↗ conversations with other cities in the

32:34 ↗ area that have gone through a similar

32:35 ↗ process recently. In addition, you'll

32:38 ↗ see in this timeline that uh we've had a

32:41 ↗ touch point with the equity board as

32:42 ↗ well. So I brought this project I'm just

32:45 ↗ happen to wear the hat of liaison to the

32:47 ↗ equity board. Um and so brought this uh

32:49 ↗ project to them not at this current

32:52 ↗ month's meeting but the previous month's

32:54 ↗ meeting to get some of their feedback.

32:56 ↗ uh as you might imagine they were

32:57 ↗ particularly interested in the

32:58 ↗ enforcement section and so had a lot of

33:01 ↗ really good feedback for us there and so

33:03 ↗ we're back here in May to bring these

33:05 ↗ two items forward and at the end of our

33:07 ↗ presentation we'll talk a little bit

33:08 ↗ about what we see as the next steps and

33:10 ↗ the I would say slightly revised

33:12 ↗ timeline and the one that Jeff and I

33:14 ↗ provided uh back in February

33:17 ↗ and with that I'll turn it over to

33:18 ↗ Laura.

33:19 ↗ >> Yeah. So, as Dale said, we um engaged in

33:22 ↗ a community survey. Um we opened it up

33:26 ↗ in March um and closed had it o open for

33:29 ↗ about uh a month. Uh we ended up having

33:32 ↗ about seven uh 378 total respondents. Um

33:36 ↗ and what we found was that uh uh most

33:40 ↗ 82% um really want visit the parks very

33:45 ↗ frequently um weekly or daily. And um

33:49 ↗ most also bonded clear park rules um and

33:53 ↗ within that um section uh 45% of those

33:57 ↗ folks said that the rules are very

33:59 ↗ important. So um there is a clear um

34:01 ↗ interest and need in the the community u

34:04 ↗ based off the survey um is what we found

34:06 ↗ that they are um they desire uh clear

34:10 ↗ park rules um and and ways of engaging

34:14 ↗ the behavior. So the most common

34:16 ↗ activities we uh saw was um that people

34:20 ↗ use our parks and trails and open spaces

34:22 ↗ are walking, hiking and running. Um

34:25 ↗ nature obser observation and uh dog

34:28 ↗ walking.

34:33 ↗ And through the survey um the top

34:36 ↗ priorities that we found um under the

34:39 ↗ management and compliance areas is dog

34:42 ↗ management. Um clearly uh there's a need

34:45 ↗ at um for example TB um waste management

34:49 ↗ and uh maintenance and prevention of

34:51 ↗ property damage. Um and then as we look

34:55 ↗ at um what that how that relates to

34:58 ↗ future rules um and updates to our park

35:01 ↗ code uh the priorities that we found um

35:04 ↗ in the survey were waste management and

35:07 ↗ cleanliness um user safety. Um some of

35:11 ↗ the qualitative data that we saw was

35:13 ↗ that um that ebikes and and safety

35:17 ↗ around how we use our trails and open

35:19 ↗ space in that sense um was was a common

35:22 ↗ uh factor to many people. And then um

35:26 ↗ protection of nature and wild nature

35:28 ↗ natural areas and wildlife. Um and the

35:32 ↗ way in which um people found was most

35:35 ↗ important to them in terms of learning

35:37 ↗ about the Isqua Parks rules was uh uh

35:42 ↗ through communication of uh proper uh

35:45 ↗ signage at parks and trails. um

35:47 ↗ identifying that as being the most um

35:49 ↗ effective communication meth method um

35:52 ↗ is what uh respondents found um and in

35:56 ↗ fact it was by far like four four times

35:58 ↗ as many responses of people desired to

36:01 ↗ learn about the park rules and code um

36:04 ↗ through through that method.

36:09 ↗ So through that um some of the proposed

36:12 ↗ actions that we we found through the

36:14 ↗ community survey is to prioritize the

36:17 ↗ regulations, education and compliance

36:19 ↗ efforts related to those top priorities

36:22 ↗ of dog management, waste management,

36:24 ↗ trail etiquette, user safety and

36:27 ↗ prevention of property damage. And um

36:30 ↗ and as I mentioned uh some of the main

36:34 ↗ uh topic areas that uh we found were

36:38 ↗ policy areas that would be of priority

36:40 ↗ um to really focus on our um uh ebike

36:44 ↗ and mo uh motorized mot uh mobility

36:48 ↗ devices. Um and that's really an area of

36:50 ↗ focus I think with um one of the main

36:53 ↗ rules in in

36:56 ↗ >> a motorized mobility device. Is that

36:58 ↗ like one of those skateboards that

37:00 ↗ >> Yeah, it's it's basically a motorized

37:04 ↗ a scooter. It's Yeah, it's anything

37:06 ↗ that's not an electric actually has

37:08 ↗ them. So it's kind of they're the same

37:11 ↗ but they're not if that makes any sense.

37:13 ↗ Um it's right the

37:17 ↗ like east like uh what are those the

37:22 ↗ scooters mopeds? Yeah

37:23 ↗ >> the one wheels skateboard things

37:26 ↗ >> the hoverboard hoverboard. Yeah

37:29 ↗ >> sorts of

37:31 ↗ >> Thank you.

37:31 ↗ >> Yeah.

37:35 ↗ So, I guess um if you guys had a chance

37:38 ↗ to look at the the survey um content um

37:43 ↗ is there anything that you feel um we

37:47 ↗ should be incorporating into this draft

37:50 ↗ uh before we really dive in and start um

37:53 ↗ developing code and the rules um by

37:59 ↗ which we engage in our parks system.

38:06 ↗ any priorities or any other approaches

38:09 ↗ that um we should consider.

38:14 ↗ >> I have one I don't it might have come up

38:17 ↗ in trail etiquette but uh amplified

38:20 ↗ music

38:21 ↗ >> could really be anywhere.

38:24 ↗ >> Yep.

38:29 ↗ >> Yep. Something I've noticed, I I think

38:31 ↗ this would also be in trail etiquette is

38:34 ↗ especially on the um

38:37 ↗ blanking on the reineer trail.

38:40 ↗ >> Um especially around the troll, a lot of

38:43 ↗ people biking, a lot of people walking

38:45 ↗ and bikers not signaling when they're

38:48 ↗ about to pass people.

38:50 ↗ >> Yeah. So I don't know if there could be

38:52 ↗ necessarily I don't know about

38:55 ↗ enforcement but um education

38:58 ↗ uh about proper etiquette for

39:02 ↗ >> sharing the sharing yeah common use

39:04 ↗ space. Yeah.

39:06 ↗ >> And that's really that that was a lot of

39:08 ↗ the the feedback. Um there's mixed use

39:11 ↗ right in and trails and open spaces and

39:13 ↗ it's how do we all have some sort of

39:15 ↗ common understanding of using the space

39:17 ↗ based off of who else is is using it. So

39:20 ↗ that's a that's a big component um that

39:23 ↗ we're considering and and Dale will get

39:25 ↗ into this a little bit but you know one

39:27 ↗ of the things we've thought about it's

39:28 ↗ not that you to restrict necessarily but

39:30 ↗ it's more of like do we consider um

39:34 ↗ speed as the enforcement. Um, so there's

39:37 ↗ a lot of varying enforcement strategies

39:39 ↗ and approaches that I think can help

39:42 ↗ shape the rules in a way that kind of

39:44 ↗ helps um multi-use

39:48 ↗ uh spaces

39:50 ↗ >> because there are kind of two things.

39:51 ↗ There are a few different things going

39:52 ↗ on there. There's no well there's as

39:55 ↗ we've talked about like there's a lack

39:56 ↗ of signage because there are lack of

39:58 ↗ rules. Um and then and then the issue

40:01 ↗ being you know there's no signage around

40:03 ↗ who defers to who, right? Some people

40:06 ↗ don't know

40:06 ↗ >> and some people don't know. And also,

40:09 ↗ yeah, I think something around educating

40:11 ↗ like make sure to like on your left or

40:14 ↗ ring a bell, things like that. Yeah, I

40:16 ↗ love that. I made a note of that. We we

40:18 ↗ got some really good feedback from the

40:19 ↗ equity board around the implementation

40:22 ↗ side of things and and this feels very

40:24 ↗ much in that implementation piece as

40:26 ↗ well.

40:28 ↗ Any

40:30 ↗ other feedback, comments, questions

40:34 ↗ about the survey data?

40:40 ↗ >> They're all raring to talk about

40:42 ↗ enforcement. I

40:44 ↗ like Laura, come on.

40:48 ↗ >> So, let's talk about enforcement, which

40:49 ↗ is the other big question we wanted to

40:51 ↗ bring to you this evening. And the

40:52 ↗ question I have is it's a pretty broad

40:55 ↗ one. sort of like what feedback do you

40:57 ↗ have about the things that we're

40:58 ↗ potential approaches we're thinking

41:00 ↗ about when it comes to enforcement?

41:03 ↗ And so, um, I think it's important to

41:05 ↗ talk about what we're doing currently

41:06 ↗ first and then a little bit about the

41:07 ↗ process we took to even develop this

41:10 ↗ sort of baseline

41:12 ↗ direction that I think we're heading.

41:14 ↗ So, currently, our police officers can

41:16 ↗ enforce um civil infractions and

41:18 ↗ criminal violations

41:20 ↗ anywhere in the city in they can do it

41:22 ↗ in parks, they can do it not in parks.

41:24 ↗ Um, but it's not written into code that

41:27 ↗ they have that authority. So, no one

41:29 ↗ knows to expect that. Um, maybe you're

41:31 ↗ saying, "Hey, I kind of know that police

41:33 ↗ are in charge of the rules and so I

41:35 ↗ would expect that." But I do think it's

41:36 ↗ important that we haven't articulated

41:38 ↗ that anywhere. Our park ranger, hello

41:41 ↗ Alex, we miss you. Um, but our park

41:44 ↗ ranger is is and has only been able to

41:48 ↗ inform the public of rules and ask for

41:50 ↗ voluntary compliance. um before Alex

41:53 ↗ left the city. I'm not sure how many

41:54 ↗ times he came to present here, but I

41:57 ↗ know I was privy to his incredible

41:59 ↗ recordkeeping of how many times he asked

42:02 ↗ how many people to please put their dog

42:04 ↗ on a leash. Um really incredible amount

42:06 ↗ of data on just how prevalent that issue

42:08 ↗ was for him. But again, he couldn't

42:11 ↗ enforce anything. He couldn't enforce a

42:13 ↗ fine. He couldn't, you know, say that

42:15 ↗ there are fines. All he could do is say,

42:18 ↗ "Hey, we would like dogs to not be on

42:21 ↗ leashes. here's why. Um, and he would do

42:23 ↗ that over and over and over and over

42:25 ↗ again.

42:26 ↗ So, we kind of know voluntary compliance

42:29 ↗ is not is not the the cure all that

42:31 ↗ we've been looking for because we've

42:32 ↗ tried that. So, a process to try to come

42:35 ↗ up with what we think we might want to

42:37 ↗ do. Um, as Laura talked about, we

42:39 ↗ provided this survey. I will um I just

42:41 ↗ want to like say a special thanks to

42:43 ↗ Tim. I know Tim's not here, but who

42:45 ↗ helped with some of the survey

42:46 ↗ questions. And I would love to have a

42:48 ↗ moment of like, oh, we should have

42:50 ↗ banged our heads against the wall a

42:51 ↗ little bit. We asked a survey question

42:53 ↗ and it's on the next slide. Um,

42:56 ↗ specifically,

42:57 ↗ um, if a park rule isn't followed, which

43:00 ↗ of the following approaches do you

43:01 ↗ believe would be the most effective in

43:02 ↗ addressing the violation? Goodness

43:05 ↗ gracious, do I wish we had asked that

43:07 ↗ question a little bit differently?

43:09 ↗ Because I think people answered it

43:11 ↗ exactly it was as it was written is what

43:12 ↗ do you think would be the most

43:13 ↗ effective? not necessarily what what

43:16 ↗ would you like like what would be the

43:17 ↗ most desirable way or the way that you'd

43:19 ↗ like to city see the city address this.

43:21 ↗ So I think I did a little

43:23 ↗ crosstabulation of the data that I think

43:25 ↗ gets us a little closer to desire but I

43:27 ↗ do think um I just wanted to sort of

43:29 ↗ name that. So we gave the survey to

43:31 ↗ gather a little bit of information. I

43:34 ↗ also brought um this topic to the equity

43:36 ↗ board to get their input on what we

43:40 ↗ should be thinking about as we develop

43:42 ↗ um an enforcement strategy that has

43:44 ↗ equity in mind. And then also Laura and

43:47 ↗ I interviewed our police department, the

43:50 ↗ greenqua team, the human services team,

43:54 ↗ the recreation team, the planning that

43:56 ↗ we we interviewed everybody about sort

43:58 ↗ of

44:00 ↗ >> what do we think is both I think

44:02 ↗ something that aligns with our values as

44:03 ↗ a city and also at least from the police

44:06 ↗ department perspective, what's a

44:08 ↗ reasonable approach. Um, and then I

44:11 ↗ think human services as well, having

44:13 ↗ them weigh in around like the folks that

44:14 ↗ may be in our parks um, for reasons

44:17 ↗ other than recreating and how we can

44:20 ↗ make sure that we're humane and

44:22 ↗ attentive to their humanity as we think

44:24 ↗ about enforcement.

44:25 ↗ So, as I mentioned on this on this

44:28 ↗ previous slide, we looked strictly at

44:31 ↗ this one question, question number five.

44:33 ↗ I know you all took the survey and

44:34 ↗ committed it to memory, so I know you're

44:36 ↗ familiar with question number five. Um,

44:38 ↗ and at first what jumped out to me was

44:40 ↗ like fines and citations. And then I

44:43 ↗ like breathed. I took a breath in and I

44:45 ↗ said,"Well, that's actually not

44:46 ↗ statistically significantly much higher

44:48 ↗ than educational outreach and verbal or

44:51 ↗ written warnings." All it really told me

44:53 ↗ is that people don't think that

44:54 ↗ exclusion from parks is going to be very

44:56 ↗ effective. And I was like shook because

44:58 ↗ I actually that's one of my one of the

45:02 ↗ alternatives that the equity board was

45:04 ↗ like I'd really like they would really

45:05 ↗ like us to consider exclusion as an

45:08 ↗ alternative to just fines fines fines or

45:12 ↗ having someone be trespassed and then

45:13 ↗ put in jail. So I felt like five didn't

45:17 ↗ get me exactly what I wanted because I

45:19 ↗ poorly worded that question for my

45:21 ↗ intention. And so I actually did a

45:22 ↗ little bit of a cross tab with the

45:24 ↗ following question, which was question

45:26 ↗ number six, which asked um respondents

45:30 ↗ to the survey to tell us what they felt

45:31 ↗ like the most important focus of the

45:35 ↗ park rules project should be. And so

45:38 ↗ this gave us a little bit more

45:39 ↗ information specifically that the folks

45:42 ↗ who were most worried about safety, they

45:45 ↗ were the ones that were really feeling

45:46 ↗ like fines and citations at this point

45:48 ↗ is the most effective way. you can tell

45:50 ↗ those are the folks that probably have

45:51 ↗ had some experiences where they've felt

45:53 ↗ unsafe repeatedly.

45:56 ↗ Um and then you look at the other the

45:58 ↗ other reasons. So you look at um

46:00 ↗ protecting natural areas and you look at

46:02 ↗ supporting general wreck and that's much

46:04 ↗ more there's a lot more parody I would

46:07 ↗ say in the approaches that people think

46:09 ↗ would be most effective. So what that

46:12 ↗ told me is that there is an opportunity

46:13 ↗ for multiple approaches to enforcement.

46:17 ↗ After that, um I actually wanted to take

46:19 ↗ and I'll the next slide also talks a

46:20 ↗ little bit more about what I heard from

46:22 ↗ the equity board, but um I interviewed

46:24 ↗ the teams in Redmond, Kirkland, and

46:26 ↗ Shoreline. Um and also looked at their

46:28 ↗ draft code. Kirkland is still not

46:31 ↗ officially published, but I I I got some

46:34 ↗ behind the scenes from their park board

46:35 ↗ minutes to see exactly where they're at

46:37 ↗ with their enforcement. There's a lot of

46:39 ↗ similarity. Um Shorelines was the most

46:42 ↗ brief in terms of how they approach

46:44 ↗ enforcement. It was similar to Redmond

46:46 ↗ in a in a focus on um on infractions for

46:50 ↗ or infractions and fines for

46:52 ↗ infractions. They have slightly higher

46:54 ↗ fines actually than Redmond does. Um and

46:56 ↗ actually they refer directly to the RCW

46:59 ↗ in terms of or the revised code of

47:01 ↗ Washington to the state law in terms of

47:03 ↗ their their fine levels. Um and they

47:06 ↗ don't mention any sort of exclusion. So

47:08 ↗ it's fines is basically their sole

47:10 ↗ approach. Um Redmond and Kirkland have a

47:13 ↗ little more complexity in how they want

47:15 ↗ to provide

47:18 ↗ the way that enforcement could be

47:19 ↗ approached in the city. Um Redmond does

47:22 ↗ a really in-depth job and I know we

47:24 ↗ looked at the Redmond code prior to our

47:26 ↗ the last time I visited. Um they go in

47:29 ↗ and they actually define

47:32 ↗ civil infractions and then they define

47:34 ↗ the different civil infractions that

47:36 ↗ they outline in their code by level. So

47:38 ↗ they they've actually gone and said like

47:39 ↗ this civil infraction is a little more

47:41 ↗ serious than this civil infraction.

47:43 ↗ There's a a I think it's a one to three.

47:46 ↗ Um so they're even going in and saying

47:48 ↗ these are the behaviors that are not

47:50 ↗ allowed. These are the ones that are

47:51 ↗ civil infractions. And even within that

47:53 ↗ here are the ones that are more serious

47:55 ↗ or less serious. and they're aligning

47:57 ↗ those to levels of fine um and also

48:00 ↗ providing a level of discretion around

48:03 ↗ exclusion from parks um and whether or

48:07 ↗ not a um park ranger um and this is true

48:11 ↗ in Kirkland as well um can make the

48:14 ↗ decision to escalate something more

48:17 ↗ quickly um

48:20 ↗ and a little bit of discretion and

48:21 ↗ enforcement in terms of you know this

48:23 ↗ this does technically warrant a fine,

48:26 ↗ but I'm going to use this as an

48:28 ↗ opportunity to educate because this is

48:29 ↗ the first time I've encountered this and

48:31 ↗ it's a dog off a leash. I'm not going to

48:32 ↗ immediately find this person.

48:35 ↗ Um, and and they also outline in the

48:37 ↗ Redmond Code a shared enforcement

48:38 ↗ responsibility between their parks

48:40 ↗ department rangers and the Redmond

48:42 ↗ Police Department. And they define

48:43 ↗ pretty clearly that the police are in

48:46 ↗ charge of the criminal violations. So

48:48 ↗ the the ser the gross misdemeanors and

48:51 ↗ above um and the uh park rangers are in

48:55 ↗ charge of the civil fractions. Um

48:58 ↗ similar in Kirkland and I know you can

49:00 ↗ probably read my very wordy slide. I

49:02 ↗ apologize now in reflection for how how

49:05 ↗ much font is on that very small slide

49:07 ↗ but again allows for exclusion and also

49:11 ↗ delineates between the the severity of

49:13 ↗ misdemeanor violations. does not go into

49:16 ↗ the depth that Redmond goes into where

49:18 ↗ they sort of say here are all the civil

49:19 ↗ infractions and here is the level of

49:21 ↗ infraction. Um they mostly just

49:23 ↗ delineate between infractions and

49:25 ↗ criminal violations. Um and then also

49:28 ↗ they have a a a good amount of detail on

49:32 ↗ how park rangers have been um made

49:36 ↗ enforcement officers which is different

49:38 ↗ than deputizing someone. So an

49:41 ↗ enforcement officer is not a deputy of

49:43 ↗ the police. they cannot enforce criminal

49:46 ↗ violation, but they can um site people

49:49 ↗ for civil infractions.

49:51 ↗ Um and then as I as I alluded to

49:53 ↗ earlier, uh a really healthy uh robust,

49:56 ↗ I guess is the word I would use

49:58 ↗ conversation with the equity board. Some

50:00 ↗ of the main points from that

50:01 ↗ conversation, that discussion that they

50:03 ↗ had was one ensuring that there's

50:05 ↗ sensitivity to communities that may be

50:07 ↗ unfair, unfamiliar with rules. Um, we

50:11 ↗ have a really diverse community here in

50:14 ↗ Isiqua, an increasingly diverse

50:15 ↗ community, um, that have probably

50:17 ↗ experienced parks and open spaces in

50:19 ↗ different parts of the country and the

50:21 ↗ world. And so, there's going to need to

50:22 ↗ be some thought around how we introduce

50:24 ↗ these rules in a way that's

50:26 ↗ understandable.

50:27 ↗ Um, allowing for education and frontline

50:30 ↗ discretion. They thought that that was

50:31 ↗ important. You don't want to immediately

50:33 ↗ start finding people. um but instead

50:36 ↗ focus that that more serious level of

50:38 ↗ enforcement on repeat offenders where

50:40 ↗ where there's cause for concern for

50:42 ↗ safety. They expressed concerns about

50:45 ↗ fines, especially for low-income

50:47 ↗ individuals. Um you know, they said sort

50:49 ↗ of said, "What's the point of finding

50:51 ↗ people if they can't pay the fines?" Um

50:53 ↗ we need to be more thoughtful maybe

50:54 ↗ about different ways that we could

50:57 ↗ enforce but also support. Um and then

51:00 ↗ also concerns about exclusion for

51:01 ↗ historically marginalized populations.

51:03 ↗ So just bringing up this idea of you

51:05 ↗ know we've excluded people from public

51:07 ↗ spaces um as long as this country has

51:10 ↗ existed and beforehand and so how can we

51:12 ↗ be thoughtful if we are going to

51:14 ↗ approach exclusion how can we be

51:16 ↗ thoughtful in in keeping track of who is

51:20 ↗ impacted and doing an audit of um who

51:24 ↗ ends up being excluded over time and is

51:26 ↗ is any group being um

51:30 ↗ uh overly impacted by that approach.

51:33 ↗ overly impacted probably honestly by the

51:35 ↗ fines as well, but that was one they

51:36 ↗ they really talked about.

51:39 ↗ And so this all of this feedback um kind

51:42 ↗ of came for me into sort of five main um

51:47 ↗ five main elements that I'm thinking

51:48 ↗ about when it comes to drafting our

51:50 ↗ enforcement approach which is on the

51:53 ↗ next slide.

51:54 ↗ >> Just a quick question.

51:55 ↗ >> Oh, absolutely.

51:56 ↗ >> You looked at the policy. I'm always

51:59 ↗ thinking about policy versus practice.

52:01 ↗ Were you able to gather any information

52:03 ↗ from Redmond, Kirkland, Shoreline about

52:04 ↗ how many fines they've actually issued?

52:06 ↗ >> You know, I didn't ask them about how

52:08 ↗ many they've issued, and I can follow

52:09 ↗ up, David, and get that like that data

52:12 ↗ before we come back. Um, or even send it

52:14 ↗ to you, send it to the board in between.

52:16 ↗ Yeah.

52:16 ↗ >> Um, I did ask a bit about

52:19 ↗ implementation and how it's been going.

52:22 ↗ Um, Kirkland of course has not signed

52:25 ↗ theirs, so I I talked to Redmond and to

52:27 ↗ Shoreline. Um,

52:30 ↗ unsurprisingly, this will not come as a

52:31 ↗ surprise to the staff as well, it really

52:34 ↗ is dependent on the park ranger

52:37 ↗ existing. Um, that in all of these cases

52:41 ↗ for any sort of civil infraction,

52:43 ↗ specifically, I think the one that comes

52:45 ↗ up in all of our communities, speed on

52:47 ↗ trails and dogs off leash, um, you know,

52:51 ↗ they've taken, uh, I talked to the to

52:53 ↗ the folks in Redmond. They had taken a

52:55 ↗ really targeted approach to a few of

52:57 ↗ their parks and they said, you know, we

52:59 ↗ show up at lunchtime, you know, on

53:02 ↗ Thursday and all it takes is a few times

53:05 ↗ being there and people people get the

53:08 ↗ the warning ticket, not even the the

53:10 ↗ fine, but they get the official ticket

53:13 ↗ that says this is your warning. And that

53:15 ↗ tends to change behavior. Um that that

53:18 ↗ actually was like pretty effective. Um

53:20 ↗ even a non-monetary this is your first

53:22 ↗ citation.

53:23 ↗ >> Yeah. Um, and so

53:26 ↗ as someone also who has experienced that

53:28 ↗ in my own parks in the city of Seattle,

53:30 ↗ very effective. Um, you only need to

53:32 ↗ talk to animal control one time uh

53:34 ↗ before you're like, "Okay, I'm going to

53:35 ↗ not do this anymore." Uh, and I've seen

53:38 ↗ that in my my neighborhood as well. So,

53:41 ↗ that seems to be the general approach

53:42 ↗ because there's not necessarily a lot of

53:44 ↗ staff. You know, you can't have a park

53:46 ↗ ranger in every park every evening. Um,

53:48 ↗ and so instead using the data we already

53:50 ↗ have on maybe where some of the behavior

53:52 ↗ is happening, being more present, and

53:54 ↗ then I think I feel very excited about

53:56 ↗ now the opportunity to redirect people

53:59 ↗ to the dog park we do have, right?

54:02 ↗ >> So that was a long-winded answer to your

54:03 ↗ question, but yes,

54:04 ↗ >> that's great.

54:07 ↗ >> So here's here's a little bit what I'm

54:08 ↗ thinking, and I'm I'm eager to get this

54:10 ↗ group's input. So I do think it's going

54:12 ↗ to be very important in our co code to

54:14 ↗ separate civil infractions from criminal

54:16 ↗ pen penalties. And I would like to go so

54:18 ↗ far as to naming after we go through all

54:21 ↗ the behaviors naming these are civil

54:24 ↗ infractions the follow and then the rest

54:26 ↗ are criminal would be uh cause for

54:30 ↗ criminal penalty. I think it I I am

54:33 ↗ really intrigued by this tiered approach

54:35 ↗ to infractions. I think that level of

54:37 ↗ detail, especially given the user safety

54:40 ↗ being such a priority, does feel like it

54:42 ↗ would be a a valuable um at least

54:45 ↗ thought experiment to go through. And so

54:46 ↗ I'm curious to get the groups the

54:48 ↗ group's perspective on that. I feel very

54:51 ↗ strongly about park ranger as

54:53 ↗ enforcement officer, not deputized

54:55 ↗ um by the police department. So

54:57 ↗ enforcing civil infractions and

54:59 ↗ citations, but nothing beyond that. Um,

55:02 ↗ I think it's important that our ranger

55:04 ↗ is seen um as an educator um and

55:07 ↗ enforcer, not as a police officer. And

55:10 ↗ then I think I still think that park

55:14 ↗ exclusion serves some purpose. Um

55:20 ↗ I I'm not exactly I I feel um

55:25 ↗ it would be I feel limiting the options

55:27 ↗ to only find citations in education

55:30 ↗ takes away the opportunity to think

55:31 ↗ about um folks that are particular that

55:34 ↗ particularly do something um dangerous

55:37 ↗ that maybe need to be excluded. Um

55:41 ↗ feels helpful to have in the code.

55:44 ↗ Kirkland is not they're the ones that

55:45 ↗ have a big section on that and they're

55:46 ↗ they've not implemented yet. So I can't

55:48 ↗ tell you how many times they've had to

55:50 ↗ escalate something to exclusion. Um and

55:53 ↗ then I I think most importantly that

55:55 ↗ orange box there I think voluntary

55:58 ↗ compliance as a first action feels very

56:01 ↗ important um to have that frontline

56:03 ↗ discretion to say we're going to start

56:05 ↗ with voluntary compliance. if you fail

56:08 ↗ uh to comply, then we then consider um

56:11 ↗ here's here's a fine after. Um so that's

56:15 ↗ currently these five pillars are sort of

56:17 ↗ the pillars we're thinking about around

56:18 ↗ our enforcement uh code. really curious

56:22 ↗ to I mean my question for the group

56:24 ↗ tonight um is just what feedback do you

56:26 ↗ have about this potential approach uh

56:28 ↗ that we're thinking about and another in

56:30 ↗ the same lovely picture of former Alex

56:32 ↗ former or still Alex but former Ranger

56:34 ↗ Alex

56:36 ↗ >> question it we do not currently have a

56:39 ↗ ranger

56:40 ↗ >> we have the position but he um moved on

56:43 ↗ for another opportunity um and we've not

56:45 ↗ yet filled the position again right yeah

56:48 ↗ be interested to see how

56:51 ↗ if you move forward with uh

56:56 ↗ with the proposal of how that changes

56:59 ↗ the role of park ranger and the type of

57:01 ↗ person

57:02 ↗ >> or individual that you may or may not

57:04 ↗ have.

57:04 ↗ >> Yeah.

57:05 ↗ >> Seek that role is,

57:07 ↗ >> you know, I think it's

57:11 ↗ like the enforcement side of having more

57:13 ↗ of a confrontational

57:14 ↗ >> Yeah.

57:15 ↗ >> um role versus just like a hey, you're

57:18 ↗ not doing what you're supposed to be

57:19 ↗ doing.

57:20 ↗ kind of thing. Um,

57:23 ↗ so I think that could be an interesting

57:24 ↗ un unnown outcome of this, but I I I

57:29 ↗ tend to think the path you're on here is

57:31 ↗ pretty linear to my my thought path as

57:34 ↗ well. Um, what you've outlined is

57:39 ↗ >> kind of in alignment with that.

57:43 ↗ Um I just the implementation of how are

57:49 ↗ they tracking the repeat offenders? Are

57:52 ↗ they taking information

57:56 ↗ like and making an instant report? How

58:00 ↗ is that being done?

58:01 ↗ >> That's a great question. I will say from

58:04 ↗ the from my conversations with Alex

58:07 ↗ prior to his departure,

58:10 ↗ the repeat offenders are known. it I

58:12 ↗ think we sometimes think that our

58:14 ↗ community is is a lot bigger than it is

58:16 ↗ but and and it's not small but the folks

58:19 ↗ that are repeatedly

58:21 ↗ doing things that are on any level from

58:24 ↗ like annoying to unsafe

58:29 ↗ there he he's like I know the people and

58:31 ↗ then as I talk to other other cities

58:33 ↗ they're like oh yeah the five people or

58:35 ↗ the like five entities that we are

58:37 ↗ repeatedly interacting with and asking

58:40 ↗ to do x y or

58:42 ↗ Um, and so it's I think there's a level

58:45 ↗ of we would still want to have some we

58:47 ↗ would not want to have data collection

58:48 ↗ in any sort of implementation. Um, but I

58:51 ↗ also think that

58:53 ↗ the I think we would know pretty quickly

58:56 ↗ who our repeat offenders are. The other

58:59 ↗ tricky thing is we've never had like a

59:01 ↗ step beyond please.

59:04 ↗ And so I also wonder at like the written

59:08 ↗ warning like how many people at written

59:11 ↗ warning change their behavior.

59:14 ↗ >> Yeah. I I think I mean it goes a long

59:16 ↗ way to saying which is obviously we're

59:17 ↗ working on this project but like when I

59:19 ↗ go to another city's park and they have

59:20 ↗ the sign that says this is what you can

59:22 ↗ and can't do here.

59:23 ↗ >> Yeah.

59:24 ↗ >> To Jonathan's point, can I post a flyer?

59:26 ↗ Can I not post a flyer to tell people

59:28 ↗ not to litter which is our number two

59:29 ↗ priority here?

59:31 ↗ >> What is our role and our policy on that?

59:32 ↗ Like,

59:33 ↗ >> yeah.

59:33 ↗ >> Oh, I can do that here. Oh, I can't do

59:35 ↗ that here. Or same your trail

59:37 ↗ conversation. I don't remember where I

59:38 ↗ was recently, but it's like like the

59:40 ↗ little triangle. It's like the walker

59:41 ↗ defers to the horse defers to the bike,

59:44 ↗ whatever the

59:45 ↗ >> you know, triangle of life. It's like

59:47 ↗ even that type of thing to your point is

59:51 ↗ and and kind of your question is like

59:54 ↗ even just letting people know what you

59:55 ↗ can and can't do often can change the

59:57 ↗ behavior.

59:58 ↗ >> Yeah. And then, you know, I mean, I've

1:00:01 ↗ been out in the parks and I I see the

1:00:04 ↗ same people doing things and I'm like, I

1:00:06 ↗ know who the repeaters are.

1:00:09 ↗ >> I guess my concern with that is just

1:00:12 ↗ there's nuance to it. I guess my concern

1:00:14 ↗ with that is that it could allow for

1:00:17 ↗ bias, especially if it's like frontline

1:00:21 ↗ discretion.

1:00:22 ↗ >> Absolutely.

1:00:22 ↗ >> So, that's just my concern.

1:00:24 ↗ >> It goes both ways, right? I've been

1:00:25 ↗ wrestling with that a bit as well is

1:00:27 ↗ that the the discretion both allows for

1:00:31 ↗ the person in the position to identify

1:00:33 ↗ this is someone who, you know, maybe

1:00:36 ↗ overpoliced or overfined already, but it

1:00:39 ↗ and so let me take an education approach

1:00:41 ↗ first, but someone without an equity

1:00:43 ↗ lens could go the exact opposite way,

1:00:45 ↗ >> right?

1:00:45 ↗ >> Yeah. So, it makes me think a lot about

1:00:47 ↗ the training and sensitivity that we

1:00:49 ↗ need to make sure our staff has. So,

1:00:50 ↗ whoever ends up in that park ranger

1:00:52 ↗ role, um, that's going to be par. Yeah,

1:00:58 ↗ >> I think what's important with the park

1:01:00 ↗ ranger role, especially with that with

1:01:02 ↗ Alex, was they worked very closely with

1:01:04 ↗ the health and human services department

1:01:06 ↗ and that group. So, and to his credit,

1:01:09 ↗ he knew everybody by their first name,

1:01:11 ↗ which was really nice. You know, you're

1:01:13 ↗ seeing them as an individual, as a human

1:01:15 ↗ person, but they work very closely

1:01:17 ↗ together. So that that was a huge

1:01:19 ↗ benefit.

1:01:21 ↗ >> Absolutely.

1:01:27 ↗ >> Yeah, Chris,

1:01:28 ↗ >> I don't see a lot like when I especially

1:01:30 ↗ when I'm looking at the the different

1:01:31 ↗ cities,

1:01:33 ↗ >> that's there's a few items of course,

1:01:35 ↗ you know, what designation you place

1:01:37 ↗ your rangers in.

1:01:39 ↗ >> Um but most of it's not really exclusive

1:01:42 ↗ of anything else. And um you know it

1:01:46 ↗ seems like with uh

1:01:49 ↗ quite a bit of effort I'm not trying to

1:01:52 ↗ minimize it but this this can be blended

1:01:53 ↗ into something that's appropriate and

1:01:55 ↗ taking the best from the others. Uh just

1:01:58 ↗ from my own perspective I like the idea

1:02:01 ↗ of keeping the rangers separate.

1:02:03 ↗ >> Um you mentioned the training and I

1:02:07 ↗ don't know what we do for police for

1:02:10 ↗ community train community policing. Yep.

1:02:13 ↗ >> But having the rangers maybe participate

1:02:15 ↗ in that or something like that might be

1:02:17 ↗ a cool way to

1:02:20 ↗ >> bring that about or put them in a a

1:02:22 ↗ >> better better trained position.

1:02:25 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:02:26 ↗ >> And then I really feel strongly about uh

1:02:29 ↗ frontline discretion and enforcement

1:02:32 ↗ >> that that you know the ranger has the

1:02:34 ↗ ability to

1:02:38 ↗ >> just keep it you know for verbal and if

1:02:40 ↗ it's a repeat offender then it can get

1:02:41 ↗ escalated. Yeah,

1:02:45 ↗ >> great.

1:02:48 ↗ >> I guess sorry, one other thing I wanted

1:02:50 ↗ to say is given that what you introduced

1:02:53 ↗ with that we don't have any rules right

1:02:55 ↗ now and generally speaking there's been

1:02:59 ↗ no discussion about mayhem in our parks.

1:03:01 ↗ Um I think keeping us tilted towards

1:03:04 ↗ this the software approach with options

1:03:07 ↗ is great rather than trying to come in

1:03:09 ↗ hard.

1:03:10 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:03:14 ↗ And that also goes back to the education

1:03:16 ↗ and outreach piece being what is a major

1:03:21 ↗ overarching component to having, you

1:03:24 ↗ know, that softer approach kind of

1:03:27 ↗ overlaid right?

1:03:29 ↗ >> So, yeah, I think Hannah has your hand

1:03:32 ↗ up.

1:03:34 ↗ >> Thanks. Yeah, I um I was just a little

1:03:37 ↗ bit interested in what does that

1:03:38 ↗ education outreach look like, right?

1:03:40 ↗ Because we've never had these roles. Um

1:03:44 ↗ you know, this package looks first this

1:03:46 ↗ package looks I think very sensible to

1:03:48 ↗ me. Um I also agree with the separation

1:03:51 ↗ of the park ranger and the police. I

1:03:54 ↗ think um you know I

1:03:58 ↗ I I'm just a little I'm just very

1:04:00 ↗ interested in um how do we educate the

1:04:03 ↗ public once this passes on what they can

1:04:05 ↗ and can't do in the parks? Um how do we

1:04:08 ↗ let people know there are rules, right?

1:04:10 ↗ Um yeah, I'm just a little interested

1:04:12 ↗ the the roll out. What does the roll out

1:04:14 ↗ look like?

1:04:16 ↗ >> Yeah, absolutely. And I think I mean we

1:04:18 ↗ will be back um after the the as we get

1:04:21 ↗ closer to the code being written and

1:04:24 ↗ then start to think about implementation

1:04:26 ↗ we'll be back to talk about that as

1:04:27 ↗ well. I will say is unsurprisingly

1:04:32 ↗ uh came up also with the equity board

1:04:34 ↗ and one of the really great ideas that

1:04:37 ↗ came up was um

1:04:40 ↗ as we have the rules finalized when we

1:04:44 ↗ come up with like our most simple pathy

1:04:46 ↗ version of them the the to Ryan's point

1:04:48 ↗ the ones that go on the sign um how we

1:04:50 ↗ might use I haven't even shared this

1:04:51 ↗ with Robin yet but how we might use our

1:04:53 ↗ summer camps as a way to teach the kids

1:04:58 ↗ the rules because kids are one of the

1:05:00 ↗ best ways to make sure parents end up

1:05:02 ↗ knowing the rules. Um, and that

1:05:04 ↗ potentially we could use some of our

1:05:06 ↗ summer camp um curriculum to do some

1:05:10 ↗ rules roll out with with the youth and

1:05:13 ↗ hopefully spread it that way. Um, you

1:05:16 ↗ know, we're going to we're going to pick

1:05:17 ↗ a lot of different strategies for

1:05:19 ↗ implementation. There's going to be one

1:05:21 ↗ strategy that gets us 50% of the way

1:05:23 ↗ there. That might be science. That might

1:05:24 ↗ be science alone might get us 50% of the

1:05:26 ↗ way.

1:05:27 ↗ >> Thomas could help you with that.

1:05:28 ↗ >> I was gonna say yeah. Um and then

1:05:31 ↗ potentially it's like okay what are the

1:05:32 ↗ other three or four so we get from 50%

1:05:35 ↗ of people to 70 to 80% of people.

1:05:38 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:05:38 ↗ >> So and I would imagine there's some

1:05:40 ↗ other expertise in our department around

1:05:44 ↗ how we can we can roll this out but that

1:05:46 ↗ is I can feel you champing at the bit

1:05:49 ↗ for it and know that we're champing at

1:05:51 ↗ the bit as well.

1:05:53 ↗ um because my mind also jumps to

1:05:55 ↗ implementation as well. So it's it's

1:05:58 ↗ nothing's been determined there but it

1:06:00 ↗ will come back to the board as we as we

1:06:02 ↗ come up with that strategy.

1:06:05 ↗ >> Awesome. Thank you.

1:06:07 ↗ >> Quick easy ways too. I like thinking

1:06:09 ↗ from like a promotion and marketing uh

1:06:12 ↗ standpoint. It can be simple little

1:06:15 ↗ sound bites or little video clips that

1:06:18 ↗ are, you know, or social pushes um to

1:06:21 ↗ the the point of little pathy quick like

1:06:24 ↗ what what's going to stick in people's

1:06:26 ↗ minds. That's that's an easy and

1:06:28 ↗ relatively inexpensive way to do it,

1:06:30 ↗ too. So, there's there's there's a lot

1:06:32 ↗ of creative ways I think that can happen

1:06:34 ↗ that kind of get the word out and kind

1:06:37 ↗ of make people see what what what the

1:06:40 ↗ rules are all about.

1:06:43 ↗ the jingle.

1:06:44 ↗ >> The jingle. There you go. A jingle.

1:06:47 ↗ >> So, for our last slide, I just want to

1:06:49 ↗ give a little bit of an overview of

1:06:50 ↗ what's where we're headed next. Um, so

1:06:52 ↗ Laura and I are the main uh project

1:06:55 ↗ staff on this on this project. And so,

1:06:57 ↗ we're going to use the next, you know,

1:06:59 ↗ month and a half to really dive into

1:07:01 ↗ finally drafting. Um, we've got an

1:07:03 ↗ emerging draft, but it wasn't quite

1:07:05 ↗ ready uh for the light of day tonight.

1:07:08 ↗ Um, we'll also use the month of July to

1:07:10 ↗ get city staff feedback. So, the same

1:07:12 ↗ group that we went to before, we'd like

1:07:14 ↗ to go back to each of those groups. Um,

1:07:16 ↗ and likely we'll need to get them all in

1:07:18 ↗ the same room as well at some point to

1:07:20 ↗ talk about how all these groups will

1:07:21 ↗ work together. Um, when it comes to

1:07:23 ↗ understanding, sharing about, and then

1:07:26 ↗ enforcing the rules. Um, I'll also bring

1:07:29 ↗ the the draft back to the equity board

1:07:31 ↗ before we bring it back to you. So it

1:07:34 ↗ won't it'll come this will be the last

1:07:35 ↗ group that looks at it before it goes to

1:07:37 ↗ council and so I'd like to go back to

1:07:39 ↗ the equity board with the draft ahead of

1:07:40 ↗ that. Um so I think the tentative plan

1:07:42 ↗ is to be back here in August. Um and

1:07:45 ↗ then go to council committee after the

1:07:47 ↗ board sees that and provides feedback on

1:07:50 ↗ that draft.

1:07:52 ↗ >> And that's what I got. So yeah questions

1:07:54 ↗ and

1:07:54 ↗ >> I'll just keep in touch. Well you will

1:07:57 ↗ but sometimes we don't have either a

1:08:00 ↗ July or an August meeting.

1:08:01 ↗ >> Yes.

1:08:03 ↗ I think it's August, right? You guys

1:08:04 ↗ take a break in August. So,

1:08:06 ↗ >> it can be one or the other.

1:08:07 ↗ >> I'll be back in September then.

1:08:12 ↗ >> Excellent. Thank you.

1:08:17 ↗ Next. I'm close that one out.

1:08:27 ↗ >> Good job with that one.

1:08:29 ↗ >> All right. Excellent. Thank you. Thank

1:08:31 ↗ you very much for sharing.

1:08:33 ↗ >> Of course. It's always a delight to be

1:08:35 ↗ here. I'm sorry I got to run. I got to

1:08:37 ↗ relieve my uh husband who needs to go

1:08:39 ↗ deliver a baby. So

1:08:42 ↗ >> it's a busy I know it's a busy evening.

1:08:47 ↗ >> But this is very cool.

1:08:50 ↗ >> All right.

1:08:51 ↗ >> If I can get this guy pulled up really

1:08:53 ↗ quick.

1:08:56 ↗ >> You know who Oliver is?

1:08:57 ↗ >> What' you say?

1:08:58 ↗ >> Do you know who Oliver is?

1:09:00 ↗ Oliver is

1:09:02 ↗ my advisor. Okay.

1:09:07 ↗ >> See if I can get this window.

1:09:14 ↗ >> Wonderful. Our fourth topic for

1:09:17 ↗ discussion tonight and review is, as we

1:09:21 ↗ know, Nick has been working on a

1:09:22 ↗ project, the trail standards capstone

1:09:25 ↗ presentation.

1:09:26 ↗ Nick, take it away.

1:09:29 ↗ Yeah, I'll just for the thing then they

1:09:31 ↗ go full screen.

1:09:39 ↗ >> Sorry.

1:09:43 ↗ >> This is a PDF, I think.

1:09:46 ↗ >> Maybe not. Oh, maybe it doesn't go full

1:09:48 ↗ screen.

1:09:48 ↗ >> I don't Yeah, this is what you said.

1:09:50 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:09:51 ↗ >> Yeah. Okay.

1:09:53 ↗ See,

1:09:55 ↗ trying to get it the right.

1:09:59 ↗ Sorry.

1:10:02 ↗ Come on. There. I'm sorry. Oh, sorry

1:10:05 ↗ folks.

1:10:06 ↗ >> Sorry.

1:10:06 ↗ >> It's touchy.

1:10:08 ↗ It's probably

1:10:10 ↗ >> good.

1:10:12 ↗ >> All right. Well, uh, thank you everyone

1:10:15 ↗ for, uh, letting me speak with you you

1:10:17 ↗ all today. Um, obviously, as you know,

1:10:19 ↗ my name is Nick. I'm a senior at Gibson

1:10:22 ↗ High School. and I've been working with

1:10:24 ↗ Robin for the past uh since September,

1:10:27 ↗ we've been working on the trail

1:10:29 ↗ standards report.

1:10:31 ↗ And today we're planning on I'm planning

1:10:34 ↗ on presenting

1:10:36 ↗ uh the the report. The report's right

1:10:38 ↗ here. Um uh so we're going to be

1:10:41 ↗ presenting you know what's in the

1:10:42 ↗ report. Uh and hopefully after uh I

1:10:46 ↗ present uh you guys can provide some

1:10:49 ↗ feedback and uh input on

1:10:53 ↗ what potentially we could add to the

1:10:54 ↗ standards and then what maybe for the

1:10:57 ↗ future um after this you know after I

1:11:00 ↗ leave and after this project is complete

1:11:03 ↗ um what else the city can do for parks

1:11:06 ↗ and trails. So uh thank you

1:11:13 ↗ So, I wanted to kind of just explain

1:11:15 ↗ what a capstone project is first. Uh, so

1:11:19 ↗ a capstone project at Gibson is a

1:11:21 ↗ two-year project that began in my junior

1:11:24 ↗ year. And the idea is that I was going

1:11:28 ↗ to look into a problem last year that I

1:11:30 ↗ was passionate about, and I found that

1:11:34 ↗ parks and trails are are something I'm

1:11:37 ↗ really interested in. Um, and after

1:11:41 ↗ talking with Robin, they figured out uh

1:11:43 ↗ we talked and we decided we should do uh

1:11:47 ↗ trail standards.

1:11:50 ↗ And uh for this project, I started

1:11:53 ↗ working with Robin in September, as I

1:11:54 ↗ said. Uh and at the beginning of the

1:11:56 ↗ school year, we started by looking at US

1:11:58 ↗ Forest Service and other city standards

1:12:01 ↗ along with what we currently see along

1:12:03 ↗ our trails and developed an outline for

1:12:06 ↗ the report. Um and it initially started

1:12:10 ↗ as a project capstone project and

1:12:13 ↗ throughout the project pro process the

1:12:14 ↗ project has is expanded to include the

1:12:17 ↗ development of trail standards and

1:12:19 ↗ maintenance standard operating

1:12:21 ↗ procedures

1:12:22 ↗ you know for uh the maintenance and

1:12:25 ↗ operation teams.

1:12:28 ↗ The next

1:12:31 ↗ >> for project collaborate collaborate

1:12:33 ↗ collaborators. Uh I collaborate with the

1:12:37 ↗ Isqua Park operations maintenance team,

1:12:39 ↗ Outdoors for All,

1:12:42 ↗ um which I'll explain more later, uh who

1:12:45 ↗ Outdoors for All is, um Isqua Alps Trail

1:12:48 ↗ Club, the Isiqua Senior Center,

1:12:51 ↗ uh other approved city trail standards

1:12:55 ↗ material and parks and community service

1:12:57 ↗ operations team. And so they all

1:13:00 ↗ provided input on this report um and

1:13:03 ↗ guided it as we went through.

1:13:07 ↗ And so kind of the basis of this report,

1:13:10 ↗ we're really basing it around the trail

1:13:12 ↗ design philosophy which is already in

1:13:15 ↗ the city of Visiqua. It's I think it's

1:13:17 ↗ in the uh park plan, but it uh you know,

1:13:21 ↗ we wanted to kind of really explain it

1:13:23 ↗ in this uh report and kind of go into

1:13:26 ↗ the philosophy. Um, and so the trail

1:13:28 ↗ design philosophy's purpose is to

1:13:30 ↗ provide four core values that isqua can

1:13:33 ↗ strive to follow when developing new

1:13:35 ↗ trails and improving the existing system

1:13:38 ↗ and connections. Accessibility as a

1:13:41 ↗ value ensures equity, dignity, and

1:13:43 ↗ inclusion, allowing individuals with

1:13:45 ↗ physical, sensory, or cognitive

1:13:48 ↗ disabilities to enjoy nature safely. And

1:13:51 ↗ then connectivity as a value ensure

1:13:54 ↗ trail design weaves together the Isqua

1:13:56 ↗ Alps forested areas pathways and people

1:14:00 ↗ into a cohesive network. Walkability it

1:14:04 ↗ ensures trails are not only accessible

1:14:06 ↗ but truly usable for people of all ages

1:14:09 ↗ and abilities. And then stewardship is a

1:14:12 ↗ value in ensuring the caring and

1:14:14 ↗ sustaining of natural and built

1:14:16 ↗ environments that make our trails

1:14:18 ↗ possible.

1:14:20 ↗ Uh so that's just an overview of kind of

1:14:22 ↗ the philosophy of this report.

1:14:29 ↗ Uh and so after writing the trail

1:14:30 ↗ philosophy, Robin and I reviewed

1:14:32 ↗ different standards to come up with the

1:14:34 ↗ six trail classifications.

1:14:37 ↗ Uh the trail classifications came from

1:14:39 ↗ reviewing city code which references the

1:14:42 ↗ US forest service standards. discussions

1:14:44 ↗ with the transportation engineers and

1:14:47 ↗ then we also reviewed existing trail

1:14:49 ↗ types within the city adjacent public

1:14:52 ↗ agency standards and input from

1:14:54 ↗ collaborators. And so we came up with

1:14:57 ↗ this list of six. Soft trail backcountry

1:15:00 ↗ soft urban trail, urban neighborhood

1:15:02 ↗ trail, multi-use urban trail, multi-use

1:15:05 ↗ trail, and then soft and urban 88 trail.

1:15:08 ↗ And so I'll go into the next few slides.

1:15:11 ↗ I'll go in depth into each of them so

1:15:13 ↗ you kind of have an idea of um what

1:15:16 ↗ these classifications mean.

1:15:21 ↗ So I'll start with soft trail backount.

1:15:24 ↗ This supports users with exploring areas

1:15:26 ↗ independent of the urban trail system

1:15:29 ↗ and non-motorized trails. They support

1:15:31 ↗ recreational users ranging from hikers

1:15:34 ↗ to mountain bikers.

1:15:36 ↗ And um yeah, that's kind of just a quick

1:15:40 ↗ definition. And then uh next slide.

1:15:44 ↗ Um, so just to explain a little more

1:15:46 ↗ what subtrop back country, it's

1:15:48 ↗ essentially a, as you can see there,

1:15:50 ↗ it's a narrow trail with, you know, it's

1:15:54 ↗ uh something you would see in, you know,

1:15:56 ↗ Squawk Mountain, you know, any of kind

1:15:58 ↗ of a a big hiking, you know, uh, it's

1:16:02 ↗ going to be kind of the the the least

1:16:05 ↗ um, what's it called? Like accessible

1:16:08 ↗ um, because it's so, you know, deep into

1:16:10 ↗ the mountains. Um but it's definitely

1:16:14 ↗ you know it's um an important one.

1:16:20 ↗ >> Sorry.

1:16:23 ↗ Soft urban trail. It provides crucial

1:16:25 ↗ community main routes separate from

1:16:27 ↗ vehicle routes and they provide links to

1:16:30 ↗ cities, towns, parks and other

1:16:32 ↗ transportation junctions.

1:16:34 ↗ And yeah, this is just a good connection

1:16:37 ↗ between different trails of the soft

1:16:39 ↗ urban trail

1:16:44 ↗ and soft urban trail. They are wide

1:16:46 ↗ trails that help meet accessibility

1:16:48 ↗ goals, making sure we're allowing a

1:16:50 ↗ variety of mobility devices and make

1:16:53 ↗ connections between neighborhoods. Uh,

1:16:55 ↗ as I said, we want it to be a safe

1:16:57 ↗ transition from one t from one trail to

1:17:00 ↗ another. And this really makes our trail

1:17:02 ↗ system cohesive. Our trails like the

1:17:05 ↗ soft urban trail,

1:17:10 ↗ urban neighborhood trail delivers

1:17:12 ↗ recreational opportunities for

1:17:13 ↗ pedestrians and are designed to connect

1:17:15 ↗ neighborhoods, community land uses, and

1:17:17 ↗ interconnect sidewalk systems. So, these

1:17:20 ↗ are even more uh around the neighborhood

1:17:24 ↗ to make sure uh it's an easy access

1:17:26 ↗ point from your home to different trails

1:17:30 ↗ uh cuz you know it it also is

1:17:32 ↗ sustainable to be able to to walk as

1:17:34 ↗ opposed to drive to some of uh some of

1:17:37 ↗ these trails. So that kind of saves, you

1:17:40 ↗ know, some energy and kind of looks at,

1:17:43 ↗ you know, sustainability.

1:17:49 ↗ And so trail there are trails that

1:17:51 ↗ include a mix of paved or compacted

1:17:53 ↗ surfaces and prioritize safety,

1:17:56 ↗ accessibility, and comfort for

1:17:58 ↗ individuals of all ages and abilities.

1:18:01 ↗ So these are, you know, as I said, a

1:18:03 ↗ great community trail that can easily be

1:18:05 ↗ accessed by most of the community.

1:18:10 ↗ Um and then multi-use urban trail which

1:18:15 ↗ is essentially you know rainer trail is

1:18:17 ↗ a great example for that. Um and it's

1:18:19 ↗ intended to provide recreational

1:18:21 ↗ opportunities for all people and

1:18:22 ↗ connective regional routes within

1:18:24 ↗ neighborhoods and urban areas.

1:18:27 ↗ Um yeah so really making sure again it's

1:18:31 ↗ accessible for most of our community

1:18:33 ↗ members is really key for this trail as

1:18:36 ↗ well.

1:18:39 ↗ And they are paved trails typically

1:18:41 ↗ separated from motor vehicle traffic and

1:18:43 ↗ are designed to support both

1:18:45 ↗ recreational and maintenance purposes

1:18:47 ↗ with features that promote

1:18:48 ↗ accessibility, safety and compatibility

1:18:51 ↗ among different users.

1:18:53 ↗ And then we have multi-use trail

1:18:57 ↗ critical area

1:18:59 ↗ uh which is intended to provide

1:19:00 ↗ flexibility when a multi-use trail moves

1:19:02 ↗ through a critical area while providing

1:19:04 ↗ movement for people of all abilities

1:19:06 ↗ with nominal disturbances. And again,

1:19:08 ↗ this really gets at the sustainability

1:19:11 ↗ piece. you know, really making sure

1:19:13 ↗ we're when we're building these and

1:19:15 ↗ developing these trails that we are

1:19:18 ↗ really thinking about, you know, also

1:19:21 ↗ while we want it to be accessible, we

1:19:22 ↗ also have to think about how we make

1:19:24 ↗ sure it's sustainable at the same time.

1:19:30 ↗ Uh, and it's a special paving trail

1:19:32 ↗ designed to accommodate pedestrians,

1:19:33 ↗ bicyclists, and people with mobility

1:19:35 ↗ devices while being located within a

1:19:38 ↗ designated critical area. So it's, you

1:19:40 ↗ know, essentially maintaining the needs

1:19:42 ↗ of our community members while also

1:19:44 ↗ thinking about the sustainability of our

1:19:46 ↗ trails through critical areas.

1:19:51 ↗ Fine.

1:19:53 ↗ And then we have soft and urban ADA

1:19:56 ↗ trail. It's designed with specific

1:19:58 ↗ elements that meet current city, state,

1:20:00 ↗ and federal guidelines to accommodate

1:20:01 ↗ people of all ages, abilities, and

1:20:03 ↗ mobility devices. Um, a big part of this

1:20:07 ↗ project has been a focus on the

1:20:09 ↗ accessibility. Uh, I've gone into this

1:20:12 ↗ with really experience. As someone with

1:20:15 ↗ a disability myself,

1:20:17 ↗ I can advocate for, you know, ADA trails

1:20:21 ↗ and they definitely are, you know, a

1:20:23 ↗ good way to they're the best way to make

1:20:25 ↗ sure it's accessible for people of all

1:20:27 ↗ abilities. Um and then next slide you'll

1:20:30 ↗ see a picture of reindeer trail which I

1:20:32 ↗ think is kind of the best example that

1:20:34 ↗ we have in this currently and this kind

1:20:38 ↗ of goes I think a little separate but I

1:20:40 ↗ think like an inclusive playground which

1:20:42 ↗ is taught in the uh park bond renewal. I

1:20:46 ↗ think this kind of gets at like you know

1:20:49 ↗ uh the more the marrier. Obviously,

1:20:50 ↗ Reineer Trail is a good step, but you

1:20:52 ↗ know, I think, you know, even having an

1:20:55 ↗ inclusive playground, I think would be

1:20:57 ↗ an even more um there's definitely a lot

1:21:00 ↗ I think the city can do to make sure

1:21:02 ↗ we're accessible and including ADA

1:21:05 ↗ guidelines. And so, these are again soft

1:21:08 ↗ trails constructed of natural or

1:21:10 ↗ stabilized materials such as compact

1:21:12 ↗ gravel, crushed rock, or soil binders

1:21:14 ↗ designed to meet accessibility standards

1:21:17 ↗ to the maximum extent possible. and then

1:21:20 ↗ urban trails constructed of hard

1:21:22 ↗ surfaces located within a developed

1:21:24 ↗ urban environment and designed to fully

1:21:26 ↗ comply with the ADA.

1:21:28 ↗ And after working on the classifications

1:21:30 ↗ and discussing standards with park

1:21:32 ↗ operations, we realized that trail

1:21:34 ↗ maintenance component was necessary as

1:21:37 ↗ well. So the next slide I'll talk about

1:21:39 ↗ the trail maintenance part of the

1:21:41 ↗ report. So after talking with park

1:21:44 ↗ operations, we came up with a list of

1:21:46 ↗ plans the operations team can use for

1:21:48 ↗ trail and maintenance assessments in

1:21:50 ↗ addition to isiqua's standard operating

1:21:53 ↗ procedure and resource management plans.

1:21:56 ↗ And so that's the list there. You know,

1:21:57 ↗ the stand operating procedure, the

1:21:59 ↗ maintenance assessment, the resource

1:22:01 ↗ management plans, and the trail

1:22:03 ↗ assessment checklist. Those are just,

1:22:05 ↗ you know, some very important tools for

1:22:07 ↗ the maintenance team to make good

1:22:09 ↗ assessments of our trails to make sure

1:22:11 ↗ they're, you know, up to par and are

1:22:15 ↗ working as we want them.

1:22:19 ↗ Next slide.

1:22:21 ↗ And so after completing a first draft of

1:22:24 ↗ the trail standards report, I presented

1:22:26 ↗ to about 15 to 20 staff members at

1:22:28 ↗ Outdoors for All, which is a nonprofit

1:22:31 ↗ dedicated to enriching the quality of

1:22:32 ↗ life for children and adults with

1:22:34 ↗ disabilities through outdoor recreation.

1:22:37 ↗ The feedback they gave Robin and I

1:22:39 ↗ helped us come up with some ideas on

1:22:41 ↗ future trail enhancements for the city

1:22:43 ↗ of Isiqua. And some of the ideas

1:22:45 ↗ included the uh citywide trail

1:22:48 ↗ assessment and recommendations report

1:22:50 ↗ which is kind of what our current report

1:22:52 ↗ uh this report will kind of do but I

1:22:55 ↗ think this kind of furthers it. um

1:22:57 ↗ criteria for trail usability focused on

1:22:59 ↗ universal access, which would be, you

1:23:03 ↗ know, kind of a framework or guidelines,

1:23:06 ↗ a rubric you could say, on, you know,

1:23:09 ↗ how do we make sure um we're listening

1:23:12 ↗ to the community and understanding uh

1:23:14 ↗ how we make our trails the most

1:23:17 ↗ universally accessible as they can be.

1:23:20 ↗ Map of trails with criteria noted. So

1:23:23 ↗ essentially, you know, it could be like

1:23:24 ↗ something on the city website that could

1:23:27 ↗ list, you know, all the trails in the

1:23:28 ↗ area and say, you know, if they're

1:23:30 ↗ accessible or not or what their

1:23:32 ↗ accessibility level is, standards for

1:23:35 ↗ trail heads. Um, that kind of goes along

1:23:38 ↗ with, you know, what I was saying was

1:23:40 ↗ like when you go on a trail, knowing

1:23:43 ↗ beforehand, you know, what are the

1:23:44 ↗ standards so that you really know if

1:23:47 ↗ it's the accessibility level, you know,

1:23:49 ↗ is this going to be good for walking,

1:23:51 ↗ biking, being on a mobility device, and

1:23:54 ↗ then beneficial designs machine, which

1:23:57 ↗ would be like a high efficiency trail

1:23:59 ↗ assessment process, which kind of goes

1:24:00 ↗ along with the previous ones. So really

1:24:03 ↗ the idea is for future uh trail

1:24:05 ↗ enhancements for the city. The idea is

1:24:08 ↗ so that we can are considering the needs

1:24:10 ↗ of you know people of all abilities. We

1:24:13 ↗ really are you know providing the the

1:24:17 ↗ community with you know an idea of uh

1:24:20 ↗ which trails are accessible and what's

1:24:23 ↗ the different levels of accessibility.

1:24:25 ↗ Um so that's just something to kind of

1:24:28 ↗ think about for the future of the for

1:24:30 ↗ the city.

1:24:33 ↗ Um yeah now um some questions and

1:24:36 ↗ discussion um that I wanted to you know

1:24:40 ↗ see u get your input on. Um so one of

1:24:43 ↗ the questions is first question is do

1:24:46 ↗ you see any trail classification that's

1:24:48 ↗ missing from the list

1:24:54 ↗ and b

1:24:56 ↗ >> I think locked out right there. Okay.

1:24:59 ↗ Based on your experience or feedback

1:25:00 ↗ you've heard, what would you change in

1:25:02 ↗ the trail system?

1:25:07 ↗ >> I think we are trying to do this, but

1:25:09 ↗ just to increase the connections between

1:25:12 ↗ different trails. So, you know, you can

1:25:14 ↗ get almost from anywhere to anywhere.

1:25:21 ↗ >> Yeah. Because increasing connectivity

1:25:22 ↗ increases accessibility,

1:25:24 ↗ >> right?

1:25:28 ↗ Uh yeah. No, I think yeah, it's really

1:25:30 ↗ important.

1:25:32 ↗ Uh and then out of the list of future

1:25:34 ↗ ideas and enhance enhancements, what

1:25:36 ↗ would you prioritize first? Um yeah, if

1:25:39 ↗ you want to go back.

1:25:45 ↗ >> I really like the the map of trails with

1:25:48 ↗ the criteria noted. I think that's a

1:25:51 ↗ great first step because even if we want

1:25:54 ↗ to prioritize making more accessible

1:25:58 ↗ trails, that will at least make it um

1:26:01 ↗ more it'll bring visibility to it and

1:26:04 ↗ then more people will be able to

1:26:07 ↗ um advocate for their needs to be met if

1:26:10 ↗ they know what is and isn't met. Right

1:26:12 ↗ now,

1:26:13 ↗ >> we have a big project that we've been

1:26:16 ↗ looking at and that's to really take an

1:26:18 ↗ inventory of our parks and trails and

1:26:21 ↗ open spaces and really do a deep dive on

1:26:24 ↗ what are the amenities, what are the

1:26:26 ↗ accessibilities, all the different

1:26:27 ↗ components of it and then really

1:26:29 ↗ building that out so that it does show,

1:26:32 ↗ you know, easily on our website and a

1:26:35 ↗ part of that is that GIS mapping.

1:26:37 ↗ >> Right. Right. The chograph mapping.

1:26:39 ↗ >> Yeah. Yeah.

1:26:41 ↗ all those things kind of play together.

1:26:44 ↗ So there's a lot of these pieces that

1:26:46 ↗ you know can interconnect

1:26:48 ↗ >> um long term.

1:26:50 ↗ >> Yeah. Actually there was one piece that

1:26:52 ↗ actually related to this slide um I just

1:26:54 ↗ want to mention was we also identified

1:26:57 ↗ barriers from um outdoors for all and

1:26:59 ↗ the city the city of Isqua senior center

1:27:03 ↗ uh and the seniors said that kind of the

1:27:05 ↗ common barriers they've seen um was that

1:27:08 ↗ within the city system are lack of 88

1:27:11 ↗ parking availability accessible

1:27:13 ↗ restrooms and facilities lack of seating

1:27:16 ↗ along the trails which Robin mentioned

1:27:18 ↗ with the the Bill Ramos

1:27:20 ↗ And then the unpaved steep surfaces

1:27:24 ↗ which you know goes back to you know why

1:27:26 ↗ this report is super important is making

1:27:28 ↗ sure you know we have these surfaces

1:27:30 ↗ that are accessible. Um so yeah that's

1:27:33 ↗ just I wanted to mention you know we did

1:27:35 ↗ a bit of a small survey. It was about 22

1:27:39 ↗ uh senior citizens and a few individuals

1:27:42 ↗ with disabilities just to get their you

1:27:45 ↗ know input on um you know uh what they

1:27:49 ↗ think the city should prioritize for

1:27:51 ↗ trail accessibility.

1:27:55 ↗ >> Um yeah and if you have um yeah you can

1:27:57 ↗ go back to the question slide. Um um

1:28:01 ↗ yeah, if we like leave to if any of uh

1:28:04 ↗ you have any questions uh for me or on

1:28:08 ↗ the on my project?

1:28:10 ↗ >> I have some questions on your project if

1:28:12 ↗ that's right. Maybe not about the how

1:28:14 ↗ many um for your um project, how many

1:28:17 ↗ hours are you required to put into it

1:28:20 ↗ for like the capstone part of it or like

1:28:22 ↗ like how much of this like consumed your

1:28:26 ↗ >> your life and

1:28:28 ↗ >> Oh, yeah. I mean I'll say uh this year

1:28:30 ↗ it was definitely I it was more

1:28:32 ↗ involved. Last year was it was a year of

1:28:35 ↗ essentially I had to do uh research into

1:28:38 ↗ you know I did you know essentially into

1:28:40 ↗ accessibility of different areas and I

1:28:42 ↗ landed on trails and parks and uh

1:28:46 ↗ actually initially I was not like I I

1:28:49 ↗ wasn't sure if the city um would uh have

1:28:53 ↗ a need for this but then I decided to

1:28:55 ↗ reach out uh and to the ADA coordinator

1:28:58 ↗ and then I ended that she actually

1:29:01 ↗ forwarded and said uh Robin would be a

1:29:03 ↗ good person to talk to. So, um that was

1:29:07 ↗ late last year. And so, since September,

1:29:09 ↗ we've really been working hard. Oh,

1:29:12 ↗ let's see. Se it was, you know, really

1:29:15 ↗ September through um I feel like March.

1:29:19 ↗ March was when we finished the the the

1:29:22 ↗ first draft of the report when I

1:29:23 ↗ presented to Outdoors for All. And then,

1:29:26 ↗ uh last month and this month is kind of

1:29:28 ↗ in the the final finalization of the

1:29:31 ↗ report. Um, so it should be, you know,

1:29:34 ↗ complete pretty soon. Um, but yeah, it's

1:29:36 ↗ been, you know, a a lot of work. I think

1:29:39 ↗ it's, you know, definitely consumed at

1:29:41 ↗ least 50% Yeah. of my projects at

1:29:46 ↗ school. Um, so it's been, you know, a

1:29:48 ↗ lot of work, but in the end, it's like

1:29:50 ↗ it's just very rewarding and uh and

1:29:53 ↗ gratifying to, you know, finish it. Uh,

1:29:57 ↗ just, you know, something that it's just

1:29:58 ↗ such a, you know, passion project. Um,

1:30:01 ↗ it just it means a lot. Yeah.

1:30:03 ↗ >> Yeah. I just I think it's so cool. I

1:30:05 ↗ just want to commend you and say great

1:30:07 ↗ job for working on this and putting this

1:30:09 ↗ together. It's it's really cool stuff

1:30:11 ↗ what you put together. And in my time on

1:30:12 ↗ the board, I don't we haven't had a

1:30:14 ↗ youth advisor present. And so just want

1:30:17 ↗ to say thank you so much for the

1:30:20 ↗ presentation and putting this together

1:30:21 ↗ and sitting in front of a group of us

1:30:25 ↗ and and chatting through this. It's

1:30:26 ↗ pretty cool.

1:30:29 ↗ >> Yeah. Um yeah, yeah, that's, you know,

1:30:33 ↗ again, thank you all so much. Uh I

1:30:35 ↗ really appreciate uh the help from Robin

1:30:38 ↗ on this project. Um you know, she's been

1:30:40 ↗ just a great, you know, mentor

1:30:43 ↗ throughout this project, uh with, you

1:30:45 ↗ know, pretty much everything with the

1:30:47 ↗ report. Yeah, you've been super helpful.

1:30:49 ↗ Um and can't wait for, you know, it

1:30:52 ↗ being implemented.

1:30:56 ↗ >> Yes. Soon we'll take it to the

1:30:57 ↗ transportation board. Um, Park Ops is

1:31:00 ↗ going to love this. Now, they have an

1:31:02 ↗ SOP to go from and this is something we

1:31:04 ↗ can really hand out to developers, to

1:31:06 ↗ internal staff as just some some really

1:31:09 ↗ nice beginning guidelines really to take

1:31:13 ↗ off from. So, we're excited to we

1:31:16 ↗ actually have a trail standards booklet.

1:31:18 ↗ Oh my goodness. Amazing. Love that.

1:31:22 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:31:23 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:31:27 ↗ >> Excellent.

1:31:28 ↗ So Chris, can I go back a minute? I was

1:31:30 ↗ just double checking to see if we had a

1:31:32 ↗ quorum. So we have nine regular members.

1:31:36 ↗ That'd be super majority is 50 + one. So

1:31:40 ↗ that's five and a half.

1:31:43 ↗ We have five available. So I'm debating

1:31:46 ↗ does that count as a quorum or do we

1:31:48 ↗ need six?

1:31:51 ↗ So we have nine regular members, three

1:31:52 ↗ alternate.

1:31:54 ↗ We have five available tonight.

1:31:58 ↗ Going by Robert's rules, it's 50% plus

1:32:01 ↗ one.

1:32:04 ↗ 5.5. Yeah.

1:32:06 ↗ >> So

1:32:08 ↗ that

1:32:10 ↗ do we need six? I mean,

1:32:14 ↗ >> good question.

1:32:16 ↗ Or five. Yeah, I know. Chris, in your

1:32:18 ↗ experience let's

1:32:20 ↗ >> we haven't had this come up. I think

1:32:22 ↗ it's

1:32:23 ↗ >> I know

1:32:24 ↗ >> because you know it's a two weeks from

1:32:26 ↗ the last meeting and you know this

1:32:28 ↗ conflict squished them together.

1:32:30 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:32:31 ↗ >> I I'm looking back at the old rules to

1:32:34 ↗ try and find them.

1:32:37 ↗ >> Yeah. I'm wondering if

1:32:39 ↗ >> I mean we could still move forward with

1:32:41 ↗ whatever voting we do and if it's just

1:32:44 ↗ >> and if it doesn't count

1:32:46 ↗ what I was thinking we could do

1:32:48 ↗ >> by that. So we have five. So, if we want

1:32:52 ↗ to back a little bit, look at the park

1:32:54 ↗ bond renewal motions or Ryan if you'd

1:32:58 ↗ like to read those.

1:33:01 ↗ >> Do we need to go back to elections?

1:33:04 ↗ >> So, our our rules say sorry if I

1:33:08 ↗ interrupt. Our rules say a quorum at

1:33:09 ↗ least five or more members of the board

1:33:11 ↗ shall constitute a quorum

1:33:13 ↗ >> for the transaction of business. Any

1:33:15 ↗ action taken by a majority of those

1:33:17 ↗ present

1:33:21 ↗ It just says five. It doesn't say five

1:33:23 ↗ plus.

1:33:23 ↗ >> Doesn't say anything.

1:33:24 ↗ >> So,

1:33:25 ↗ >> I'm working my way through.

1:33:30 ↗ >> We've always had more. So,

1:33:31 ↗ >> yeah, we've never really had an

1:33:33 ↗ attendance,

1:33:33 ↗ >> right? Thank you. Thank you.

1:33:36 ↗ >> Thank you, John.

1:33:37 ↗ >> Okay, that'd be great. Thank you.

1:33:40 ↗ >> Let's see. Voting.

1:33:48 ↗ Hannah, I know you can't see the room.

1:33:51 ↗ We're uh having a discussion if we have

1:33:53 ↗ a quorum or not at the moment.

1:33:56 ↗ >> Yeah, thank you. I'm I'm following I'm

1:33:59 ↗ hoping I'm hoping I can help by being

1:34:01 ↗ here.

1:34:02 ↗ >> Yeah, we're reading rules.

1:34:04 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:34:07 ↗ Really

1:34:09 ↗ rules.

1:34:15 ↗ I just don't want to miss an opportunity

1:34:16 ↗ if it's really Yeah. If it's effective,

1:34:29 ↗ >> I don't see anything that says plus one.

1:34:33 ↗ >> Plus one, I think. Okay. Yeah.

1:34:35 ↗ >> So, we're good with five.

1:34:36 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:34:37 ↗ >> Okay.

1:34:38 ↗ >> So, then do we have to be unanimous?

1:34:41 ↗ Is that what I'm getting?

1:34:43 ↗ >> I think that's what it is.

1:34:46 ↗ >> So, do you want to back up and start

1:34:49 ↗ with elections then and then move to

1:34:52 ↗ parkbone renewal motion?

1:34:55 ↗ >> Did you go through the voting section?

1:34:56 ↗ Is that what you're going through?

1:34:57 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:34:58 ↗ >> Did has anyone expressed any interest in

1:35:02 ↗ the chair role other than Ryan saying he

1:35:04 ↗ would be willing to

1:35:06 ↗ >> No. No. Not to

1:35:08 ↗ >> Okay. So, we really only have one

1:35:09 ↗ nominee.

1:35:10 ↗ >> Okay. So I can call for any nominations

1:35:12 ↗ right now for the chair role.

1:35:16 ↗ >> Sure.

1:35:16 ↗ >> I I nominate Ryan. I'll send

1:35:19 ↗ >> my second.

1:35:20 ↗ >> There you go.

1:35:21 ↗ >> Are there any other nominations?

1:35:24 ↗ >> Um if there are only one nomination, um

1:35:27 ↗ Ryan, you have been elected to the chair

1:35:30 ↗ through April 30th, 2027.

1:35:33 ↗ Congratulations. And now we can call for

1:35:35 ↗ nominations for the vice.

1:35:37 ↗ >> Do we need to vote?

1:35:39 ↗ I think it's just a nomination process.

1:35:41 ↗ >> Oh, no. You don't have to vote on it.

1:35:43 ↗ >> Only if there's more than one. Okay.

1:35:45 ↗ There's more than one. Great. That's

1:35:47 ↗ unanimous.

1:35:51 ↗ >> Cool.

1:35:51 ↗ >> Then we'll now call for nominations of

1:35:55 ↗ the vice chair role. Are there any

1:35:57 ↗ nominations?

1:35:58 ↗ >> Nominate David Loop for

1:36:02 ↗ >> I'm assuming that you're okay with that.

1:36:04 ↗ >> Yes. Sorry, I should have asked for

1:36:07 ↗ >> any other nominations.

1:36:09 ↗ >> You want your first second?

1:36:11 ↗ >> Oh, all second.

1:36:14 ↗ >> Y

1:36:15 ↗ >> Okay, there are no other nominations. Uh

1:36:18 ↗ David, we you've been elected to the

1:36:21 ↗ vice chair role through April 30th,

1:36:23 ↗ 2027. Congratulations.

1:36:24 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:36:27 ↗ >> All right.

1:36:28 ↗ >> Wonderful.

1:36:30 ↗ Thank you. I look forward to being your

1:36:32 ↗ chair for the next uh year. Very

1:36:34 ↗ exciting times. Um we do want to move

1:36:37 ↗ forward uh with

1:36:42 ↗ a couple motions here um regarding the

1:36:46 ↗ park bond renewal.

1:36:49 ↗ So that as a reminder that was regular

1:36:52 ↗ business A.

1:36:55 ↗ Um, so I motion to recommend that the

1:36:58 ↗ city council move forward with the park

1:37:00 ↗ bonds renewal this November at 8 cents

1:37:03 ↗ per 1,000 assessed valuation with the

1:37:06 ↗ proposed package of projects presented

1:37:09 ↗ tonight.

1:37:11 ↗ >> Is there a moment for discussion? I I'm

1:37:13 ↗ not going to oppose this in any way, but

1:37:15 ↗ given that we are five, including a

1:37:18 ↗ brand new person,

1:37:19 ↗ >> right,

1:37:20 ↗ >> I'm wondering if we could do at least a

1:37:22 ↗ quick

1:37:22 ↗ >> Yeah. update to let you know what what

1:37:25 ↗ are we even talking about that

1:37:27 ↗ >> great thank you

1:37:28 ↗ >> we're asking you to or we're not asking

1:37:31 ↗ you but we're suggesting that you

1:37:33 ↗ provide unonymity um so the city had an

1:37:38 ↗ active park levy bond bond bond

1:37:43 ↗ >> uh you know so on which uh homeowners

1:37:46 ↗ have been paying or property owners have

1:37:48 ↗ been paying tax and it has been at 8

1:37:50 ↗ cents per thousand dollars of home or

1:37:53 ↗ property value and the decision the the

1:37:58 ↗ decision at hand is to uh renew that. So

1:38:03 ↗ it straight renewal would just be

1:38:05 ↗ replacement 8 cents continuing. Uh so

1:38:08 ↗ property taxpayers would not see an

1:38:11 ↗ increase. Um we compared um what some

1:38:15 ↗ other jurisdictions were doing and some

1:38:17 ↗ of them had I mean one of them had like

1:38:20 ↗ 20

1:38:20 ↗ >> 25

1:38:22 ↗ pretty high I think Mercer Island

1:38:24 ↗ >> um and um we made a list of projects

1:38:30 ↗ which was presented that

1:38:33 ↗ seemed to

1:38:35 ↗ distribute what we thought we could do

1:38:37 ↗ for that amount of money uh and attacked

1:38:41 ↗ the

1:38:42 ↗ most needed goals uh or mo most um

1:38:46 ↗ desired items.

1:38:48 ↗ And what else am I forgetting here? Um

1:38:52 ↗ we did talk about you know do we think

1:38:54 ↗ uh we could people would want a larger

1:38:58 ↗ bond. Uh and I think the most important

1:39:03 ↗ thing was that we wanted it to pass

1:39:06 ↗ >> and I think that the inclination was

1:39:09 ↗ towards just the maintenance and that

1:39:10 ↗ was also what uh city council was uh

1:39:14 ↗ leaning towards. Um, so our role at this

1:39:17 ↗ point is to we provide an advisory vote

1:39:22 ↗ to say city council this is what we

1:39:25 ↗ support and then they take it from there

1:39:27 ↗ and do the real decision making. And if

1:39:29 ↗ anybody wants to add to that I just was

1:39:31 ↗ trying to Yeah.

1:39:32 ↗ >> Oh, that's great.

1:39:33 ↗ >> Yeah, I'll layer in a little bit more.

1:39:34 ↗ So when new mayor Mark Mullet was

1:39:37 ↗ elected, he learned of this bond renewal

1:39:39 ↗ and actually came and joined one of our

1:39:41 ↗ meetings where he presented his kind of

1:39:42 ↗ vision for his what he heard from the

1:39:45 ↗ constituents when he was on the trail,

1:39:47 ↗ etc. And this was a piece of that. He

1:39:50 ↗ saw this as an opportunity to bring to

1:39:53 ↗ voters the chance to renew something

1:39:54 ↗ that they're already paying for versus

1:39:57 ↗ lose that. and him working with Jeff

1:40:01 ↗ amongst other people uh believe that

1:40:05 ↗ along with just the bond they can get

1:40:07 ↗ some grants and some other stuff to fund

1:40:09 ↗ 20-ish million dollars of product

1:40:11 ↗ projects.

1:40:13 ↗ where we hummed and hawed and had our

1:40:15 ↗ conversations last uh especially at the

1:40:18 ↗ last meeting in particular was do we

1:40:21 ↗ make it a higher amount

1:40:24 ↗ with the hope or opportunity to in

1:40:28 ↗ reinvest into the Julius Bone Pool or

1:40:32 ↗ reinvest into Tibbitz Valley Park which

1:40:34 ↗ are the two kind of biggest

1:40:37 ↗ I mean since I've been on the board are

1:40:39 ↗ the two biggest things that are talked

1:40:41 ↗ about in terms of spending in increasing

1:40:43 ↗ or expanding the pool or reinvisioning

1:40:46 ↗ Tibbitz as a big park in particular

1:40:50 ↗ um with the new development coming

1:40:51 ↗ across the street from Tibets that's

1:40:53 ↗ going to increase regional

1:40:54 ↗ transportation and all sorts of stuff.

1:40:56 ↗ So that that's kind of how this vision

1:40:57 ↗ came along and how the robust

1:40:59 ↗ conversation about I think Chris did a

1:41:00 ↗ great job like summing up that's kind of

1:41:03 ↗ what we're we're the advisory piece.

1:41:06 ↗ were saying, "Hey,

1:41:08 ↗ mayors, city council, we've heard from

1:41:11 ↗ the people we've talked to regarding

1:41:12 ↗ this stuff. We've talked about this as a

1:41:15 ↗ board.

1:41:16 ↗ What we're looking to do with this

1:41:18 ↗ motion is say, "Hey, we're just

1:41:19 ↗ recommending as the board of the

1:41:22 ↗ citizens of Isiqua. We don't have any

1:41:25 ↗ power really, but we're just saying we

1:41:26 ↗ recommend that you continue to proceed

1:41:29 ↗ forward with this renewal of the exact

1:41:31 ↗ same rate versus more because we we want

1:41:35 ↗ the value to be and then it actually

1:41:37 ↗ passes like Chris said versus putting a

1:41:40 ↗ bigger number out there

1:41:42 ↗ >> and then not getting anything and then

1:41:43 ↗ you're losing $20 million of

1:41:45 ↗ >> park. How long is the bond renewed for?

1:41:49 ↗ >> 10 years.

1:41:50 ↗ >> 10 years. Okay. in that time or since

1:41:54 ↗ the last bond renewal has there been any

1:41:57 ↗ outreach to the community about their

1:42:00 ↗ willingness to pay more could that I'm

1:42:03 ↗ just curious that's just a question

1:42:05 ↗ >> that's because this came up so in such a

1:42:08 ↗ short time frame that's what we're doing

1:42:10 ↗ right now and I think we have heard some

1:42:13 ↗ from the PTA board uh a lot from the

1:42:17 ↗ elementary school

1:42:18 ↗ >> I also our right runway is so short. We

1:42:22 ↗ couldn't do we don't have the time or

1:42:24 ↗ the

1:42:25 ↗ >> funding to do a scientific survey is

1:42:27 ↗ what I'm understanding. Um then two

1:42:29 ↗ other components is is that these

1:42:31 ↗ proposed projects have been informed by

1:42:34 ↗ um our 2024 park system project plan. So

1:42:37 ↗ these aren't new projects. These are all

1:42:40 ↗ ones that have been um kind of vetted as

1:42:44 ↗ small, medium, and large projects. And

1:42:46 ↗ so the the package itself is one that um

1:42:49 ↗ is based off of that plan. Um and then

1:42:53 ↗ other component too that's worth noting

1:42:55 ↗ is that we what we do know is that

1:42:57 ↗ there's two um city of Isiqua has been

1:43:01 ↗ um uh community has passed two prior

1:43:06 ↗ park bonds in 2006 and 2013. So and I

1:43:11 ↗ think they're 20-year bonds maybe.

1:43:13 ↗ Right.

1:43:13 ↗ >> I thought they were 20.

1:43:14 ↗ >> Yeah. So repayment would be 20 years.

1:43:18 ↗ We're trying to accomplish

1:43:19 ↗ >> and get these built within six to 10.

1:43:21 ↗ >> So part have been um have been

1:43:26 ↗ >> funded through largely through but

1:43:29 ↗ bonds. So we do know that that there's

1:43:32 ↗ that history. Um so this is another

1:43:35 ↗ opportunity to continue that.

1:43:37 ↗ >> If I can that that was really important.

1:43:39 ↗ Um if I can elaborate. Yeah. So we have

1:43:41 ↗ the perks plan and the way the directors

1:43:44 ↗ describe this it's this you know list of

1:43:47 ↗ everything that we want you know the

1:43:49 ↗ city wants

1:43:50 ↗ >> what we think the city wants and what

1:43:52 ↗ people have said they want and that

1:43:53 ↗ includes really expensive things like

1:43:55 ↗ tibbits and the pool those are more

1:43:58 ↗ costly projects and to very smaller

1:44:01 ↗ small ones and so

1:44:04 ↗ um from that funnels down and and o over

1:44:08 ↗ time things get done and new things get

1:44:10 ↗ added

1:44:11 ↗ And the idea with the bond is a bond

1:44:14 ↗ helps you tackle some of the larger

1:44:16 ↗ items whereas uh if let's say we didn't

1:44:19 ↗ have that bond in place, parks could

1:44:21 ↗ continue to do smaller projects but

1:44:24 ↗ they're just very limited. And uh I

1:44:27 ↗ think what Jeff described last year so

1:44:29 ↗ or last meeting is in a 10-year span

1:44:34 ↗ with the bond we can get done what might

1:44:37 ↗ take

1:44:37 ↗ >> 25 years I think or

1:44:39 ↗ >> yeah 25 or 30 significant

1:44:41 ↗ >> so it helps us tackle larger things

1:44:44 ↗ >> in this case with with staying with 8

1:44:47 ↗ cent uh so just a straight renewal

1:44:50 ↗ >> um we can't really tackle some of the

1:44:52 ↗ huge things but that's just the reality

1:44:54 ↗ of you know all jurisiction

1:44:56 ↗ Um, and but it does help us get a bunch

1:44:59 ↗ of stuff done.

1:45:01 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:45:02 ↗ >> Yeah, I would add in and we're just

1:45:03 ↗ adding at this point, but we have the

1:45:06 ↗ city of Isqua has put to ballot two

1:45:08 ↗ different bonds somewhat recently and

1:45:10 ↗ they're for school

1:45:11 ↗ >> bonds and both of those

1:45:13 ↗ >> right

1:45:13 ↗ >> and those were

1:45:15 ↗ >> significantly higher.

1:45:16 ↗ >> They were much bigger

1:45:18 ↗ >> big amounts. So viewing that context,

1:45:22 ↗ I understand

1:45:24 ↗ the decision for that. Thank you.

1:45:26 ↗ >> Yeah. Good. Yeah.

1:45:27 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:45:31 ↗ >> Um

1:45:32 ↗ if I want to second the motion. Oh,

1:45:34 ↗ >> I'll second the mot. Sorry, who made the

1:45:37 ↗ motion? You did. Okay, I'll second the

1:45:39 ↗ motion. I interrupted you.

1:45:43 ↗ >> Oh, that was great.

1:45:48 ↗ Um, I need to do anything after that.

1:45:50 ↗ >> The second motion, there's two separate

1:45:52 ↗ ones.

1:45:53 ↗ >> Yeah. No, I mean, is there like there's

1:45:54 ↗ no voting

1:45:56 ↗ vote after the motion?

1:45:57 ↗ >> Okay.

1:45:58 ↗ >> And then we vote.

1:46:00 ↗ >> It seems like we should. It's

1:46:04 ↗ >> Yeah, we should still vote.

1:46:05 ↗ >> Let's vote.

1:46:05 ↗ >> Yeah. Okay, let's vote.

1:46:07 ↗ >> I mean, especially we don't know what

1:46:09 ↗ Anna's doing at all.

1:46:11 ↗ So the the motion has been made to

1:46:12 ↗ recommend the city council that move

1:46:14 ↗ forward with the park bond renewal at 8

1:46:18 ↗ cents per thousand assessed valuation

1:46:20 ↗ with the proposed package of projects

1:46:22 ↗ presented. We have a motion. We have a

1:46:24 ↗ second. Now we're going to vote. Give me

1:46:26 ↗ a yay or a nay. Hannah.

1:46:29 ↗ >> Yay.

1:46:31 ↗ >> Leah.

1:46:32 ↗ >> Yay.

1:46:33 ↗ >> I note Leah is a alternate for your

1:46:36 ↗ tracking of alternates and that rotates

1:46:38 ↗ through Chris. Okay, David.

1:46:41 ↗ >> Yay,

1:46:42 ↗ >> Ryan. Yay.

1:46:45 ↗ All right,

1:46:47 ↗ >> make it make it noted. bill. Um, and

1:46:50 ↗ then the second one I'd like to uh move

1:46:54 ↗ to recommend that the city continue its

1:46:57 ↗ efforts on the expansion of the Julius

1:47:01 ↗ Bone Pool and looking at the uh

1:47:05 ↗ reimagining of Tibet Valley Park outside

1:47:09 ↗ of this uh park bond uh renewal motion.

1:47:17 ↗ second.

1:47:19 ↗ >> All right, we have a motion and a

1:47:21 ↗ second.

1:47:22 ↗ >> We want to just do a little bit of an

1:47:23 ↗ explanation of that one. Probably not as

1:47:24 ↗ much as the first one, but

1:47:26 ↗ >> go for it.

1:47:28 ↗ >> I was hoping you would.

1:47:29 ↗ >> Okay.

1:47:30 ↗ So the um kind of the the the thought

1:47:34 ↗ here is because

1:47:36 ↗ we had the option to uh put forth

1:47:41 ↗ a higher bond ask and potentially get

1:47:45 ↗ money for the pool or Tibbitz Valley is

1:47:48 ↗ because we're concerned about it not

1:47:49 ↗ passing. and we as a board and as a

1:47:52 ↗ community have a lot of passion

1:47:53 ↗ especially about the pool and timbits um

1:47:57 ↗ a lot of passion which is awesome is

1:47:59 ↗ that we want to just make sure it's

1:48:01 ↗ known for the city council that we

1:48:02 ↗ saying yes we want you to proceed try to

1:48:06 ↗ uh proceed with the eight cents but we

1:48:07 ↗ want you to know how important it is

1:48:09 ↗ that these other two things continue to

1:48:11 ↗ be in your view in your focus and in

1:48:15 ↗ your lane for future improvements

1:48:17 ↗ >> thank you

1:48:18 ↗ >> yeah that was Perfect. Okay.

1:48:21 ↗ >> All right. A yay or nay. Hannah.

1:48:27 ↗ >> Sorry, I thought I was muted. Um, yay.

1:48:29 ↗ >> All right, Leah.

1:48:31 ↗ >> Yay.

1:48:32 ↗ >> All right, Chris. Yay, David. Yay. Ryan,

1:48:36 ↗ yay. We got five. Yay.

1:48:39 ↗ >> Okay.

1:48:41 ↗ >> Both motions pass.

1:48:42 ↗ >> Motions.

1:48:43 ↗ >> Did it only Yeah.

1:48:46 ↗ Um,

1:48:47 ↗ >> thank you for helping us.

1:48:48 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:48:50 ↗ That's exciting.

1:48:51 ↗ >> I think I got the vote for like my

1:48:52 ↗ second.

1:48:56 ↗ >> Um, and with that, we'll move on to the

1:48:59 ↗ report. Does Jeff have anything?

1:49:01 ↗ >> Um, I think it's just to reiterate the

1:49:03 ↗ um open house and to really start

1:49:07 ↗ speaking to your community members and

1:49:09 ↗ and encourage them to come. We are

1:49:12 ↗ still, it's not been put out there on

1:49:15 ↗ calendar events, but we're working hard,

1:49:17 ↗ having just gotten the space confirmed

1:49:20 ↗ uh next or late Friday. Um we're really

1:49:23 ↗ working hard to get that um out um as

1:49:26 ↗ quickly as we can. So, um know that it's

1:49:29 ↗ at June June 2nd at 6 PM. Um we're we've

1:49:33 ↗ secured the uh Pickering Barn space. So,

1:49:36 ↗ um, yeah, we I think it's just going to

1:49:38 ↗ be a a real good great opportunity to

1:49:41 ↗ just continue to share information

1:49:43 ↗ about, you know, this and really just

1:49:45 ↗ continue to, um, gain excitement and

1:49:48 ↗ momentum on this on this work. So, um,

1:49:51 ↗ that's really our main

1:49:53 ↗ >> stage to do that. So,

1:49:55 ↗ >> website coming shortly after.

1:49:57 ↗ >> Yeah, that too with more information.

1:50:00 ↗ >> Y

1:50:02 ↗ um, Hannah has her hand. Yes, please.

1:50:07 ↗ >> Um, will that open house be uh also

1:50:12 ↗ available online if we're not in town?

1:50:17 ↗ >> I don't think so, but we'll check on

1:50:18 ↗ that.

1:50:20 ↗ >> Okay.

1:50:20 ↗ >> I think it was it was just more meet and

1:50:22 ↗ greet answer questions, but as far as I

1:50:24 ↗ know, we hadn't established a

1:50:26 ↗ presentation for it.

1:50:28 ↗ >> Okay,

1:50:30 ↗ >> cool. Thank you.

1:50:32 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:50:33 ↗ Um, not much to report as the chair. I

1:50:36 ↗ note I'm uh excited, as I said, for the

1:50:39 ↗ upcoming year of re-chairing the

1:50:41 ↗ committee, the board. Um, it is Memorial

1:50:43 ↗ Day weekend coming up this weekend. So,

1:50:45 ↗ just a reminder, if you have an

1:50:46 ↗ opportunity to get out there, um, I know

1:50:49 ↗ there's some great events at like the

1:50:51 ↗ Lower Hillside Cemetery. Um, I believe

1:50:53 ↗ there's a veterans event at the um,

1:50:57 ↗ senior center and there's also not

1:51:00 ↗ outside Memorial Day, but uh, there is

1:51:02 ↗ the I believe the fourth weekend of the

1:51:04 ↗ farmers market this weekend as well. So,

1:51:07 ↗ make sure you get out there and do

1:51:08 ↗ something in the community if you can

1:51:10 ↗ this weekend.

1:51:13 ↗ Anybody have anything else they want to

1:51:15 ↗ note for the

1:51:18 ↗ group or add to the

1:51:21 ↗ minutes?

1:51:25 ↗ Anna. Yes, please.

1:51:27 ↗ >> Sorry, I'm like the most annoying remote

1:51:29 ↗ person. Um,

1:51:30 ↗ >> you're doing great.

1:51:32 ↗ >> I just wanted to take a second because

1:51:35 ↗ um, yeah, at the end of Nick's

1:51:37 ↗ presentation, I didn't get to say

1:51:39 ↗ anything. I just wanted to say that he

1:51:40 ↗ did a really great job and um, I wanted

1:51:43 ↗ to thank him for presenting. And I also

1:51:46 ↗ wanted uh just to throw it out there

1:51:48 ↗ that I can't um I'm kind of shocked that

1:51:51 ↗ there's not already a accessibility map.

1:51:54 ↗ I also work with Eastside Friends of

1:51:57 ↗ Seniors and um I just know how much

1:52:02 ↗ these seniors would appreciate knowing

1:52:04 ↗ where they could go walk close to their

1:52:06 ↗ homes. So, um I think the accessibility

1:52:09 ↗ map is just a huge valuable potential

1:52:13 ↗ tool and thank you for doing the work to

1:52:16 ↗ um bring light to that.

1:52:19 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:52:21 ↗ >> Thank you. Great feedback.

1:52:23 ↗ >> Yeah, very helpful.

1:52:25 ↗ >> Um as noted, our next uh meeting will be

1:52:29 ↗ June 22nd.

1:52:37 ↗ With that, it is 8:52. I call this

1:52:39 ↗ meeting end.

1:52:42 ↗ >> Cool.

1:52:43 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:52:45 ↗ >> Sorry for the confusion. I just wanted

1:52:47 ↗ to make sure we didn't miss an

1:52:48 ↗ opportunity.

1:52:49 ↗ >> Yeah. No, it's good. Otherwise, we would

1:52:51 ↗ have

1:52:52 ↗ >> had been extra meat.

1:52:53 ↗ >> Yeah. Shoved it off.

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