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Equity Board
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Wednesday, April 2, 2025
6:00 PM
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Agenda · 3 items
Transcript · 2,099 segments
Minutes
3. AGENDA ITEMS
3a
Opening Question Facilitated by: Priti Mody-Pan
15 min · packet pp.3–12
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Staff report:
Issaquah Creek Capital Investment Strategy (CIS) Presentation to the City of Issaquah Equity and Environmental Boards
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Floodplain Management: Issaquah Creek Capital Investment Strategy
60 min · Natalie Seitz, King County River and Floodplain Management Alexandra Dolk, King County River and Floodplain Management
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Water
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Closing Thought Facilitated by: Priti Mody-Pan
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Great. Well, it is 6:04 p.m. and I call
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this joint meeting of the equity board
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and environmental board to order. Um, we
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start with a roll call.
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Um, so members of the equity board, I'll
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say your name. If you're here, stay
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here. Uh, Ray Manahan here. Sha
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Fleming, Varnica here, Prithy Mod Pan
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here Arth
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Kashina, Leslie Millinder, Irwin here,
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Laura Gilmore,
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Kelly Mun here, Shaunie Kapoor here,
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Kunal Shriaba
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here. Amazing. So, we do have some
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regular members who are absent this
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evening. Um, all alternate members
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except for Kunal, if we were to vote on
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anything, which we are not going to, uh,
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would be acting as regular voting
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members this evening.
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Great. Um, and for the environmental
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board, um, I'll just introduce myself
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real quick because I don't know members.
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I think I've only been the equity board
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once or twice. I'm Stacy. I'm the
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sustainability manager and then also the
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leaison. So, I'll do a roll call for the
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environmental board. Um, Kieran Khan
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here. Jamie Finch has an excused
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absence. Don Mc Williams here. Mina June
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has an excused absence.
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Project she had an excused absence.
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Tommy
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here. Alex Lee
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here. Stacey Bear.
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Nancy Davidson here. Keith Gonzalez
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here.
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and newcomer had excused absence and
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John Smith has absent again we're not
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voting on anything but
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great okay thank you
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I was going to say just to note for the
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record is now here
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sorry to be late no worries great and I
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hear we have one emailed public comment
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Dale we have one emailed public comment
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it is not about our one agenda item
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tonight, but is enriching for everyone
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in that's present to hear about. Um
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there's an upcoming event uh uh one of
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the series of Literary Nights events um
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is coming up here on May 5th. It's a
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joint event between Literary Nights and
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the King County Library. Um it will take
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place at the Train Depot, so 78th 1st
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Avenue Northeast um from 6:30 to 9:30.
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The title of this uh May event is a mic
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of our own feminist readings and salon.
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Um and it is an intimate evening of
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stories and poetry that are featuring um
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a number of uh local, regional and
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national uh poets. So there will be a
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some spoken word done and then the mic
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will open up to the community for the
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second half of the event. refreshments
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will be served and there will also be a
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harpist um there to dazzle everyone with
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some beautiful music. So, uh Cyra
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reached out and just wanted to invite
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everyone and I'm sure that extends the
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environmental board as well. So, if
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you're able to make it May 5th, that's a
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Monday night, uh 6:30 to 9:30 p.m. And
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that concludes the public comment I
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received ahead of tonight's meeting.
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Great. Okay. So then moving into the
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meat of the meeting agenda for today.
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We're going to start out with the
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opening question. And the opening
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question is something that um the equity
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board has started up I think in the last
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two or three years. And it serves two
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purposes. One is um in order to have you
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know like deep conversations and perhaps
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uh debate lively healthy open conflict
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and debate we felt like it's important
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for folks to know each other and be in
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relationship with each other. And also
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for each individual meeting we think
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it's really important to get everyone's
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voice into the room in an easy way. So
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once everyone's voice is in the room
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it's much easier to contribute and share
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opinions. So, that's kind of the purpose
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of our opening question. It's in other
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words, an icebreaker. And um for today's
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icebreaker, I was teasing my son who's
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in the room that I was going to ask,
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what do you love most about your mother?
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But dialed it back. And so the question
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for today is, what is something you've
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learned from a mentor, parent, guardian,
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or elder that has stuck with you for
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life? And I thought we could go around
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the room. Someone could start and then
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just call on the next person until we've
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covered everyone in the room and maybe
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start with your name, preferred
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pronouns, if you're comfortable sharing,
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and which board you're part of, and then
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popcorn it over to someone
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else. Could you restate the question one
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more time? Yes. What is something you've
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learned from a mentor, parent, guardian,
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or elder that has stuck with you?
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And I was just gonna call on Kieran
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since he's had
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Yeah. So, uh, something that I learned
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from my
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mother. Um, I'm Kieran Pan. He him.
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Something I learned from my mother is
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that it's important to consider many
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perspectives when kind of thinking about
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anything in life. uh it kind of very
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differs from my father who uh has
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learned quite a bit from my mother as
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well in this regard where it's important
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to understand everything you know all
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perspectives before kind of taking
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action
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lesson
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can you skip me I'm still thinking
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okay um my mentor was my um teacher and
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then she became my boss later on in
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early years of work like and um uh
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coming from the studies of gender and
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feminism and all, she always um talked
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about the importance of balance and um
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and you know um so it that you know
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managing the extremism or the the
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passion that comes from being um going
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forward with one issue but learning to
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balance it out in in your own u career
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and family choices. Those were the
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things that that sort of stuck back with
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me. It's it's a very delicate situation
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there. Yeah. I don't know if that makes
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sense.
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Um I'm Verica, she her pronouns. Um I
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guess one thing my mom always tells me
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is to always work hard when I'm young
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and while I can and to be grateful for
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all the opportunities that I'm given.
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Um, and to also always have empathy for
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others and, you know, be able to share
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what I can whenever I can and like
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donate to food and clothing banks like
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at least once a year and just appreciate
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what I have in life.
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Me next or go around. Okay. Um there are
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probably a lot of them but one that just
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came to mind that feels very topical for
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me in my life at this point um is from a
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farmer manager who uh used to tell me
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the best laid plans are meant to be
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deviated from. So kind of emphasizing
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both the importance of having a plan and
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then being willing to be flexible and
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give up that plan um when the situation
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calls for it. So, be prepared, but be
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prepared to do something different if
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you need to.
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My name is Alice Dul. I'm the presenter
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tonight. Um, as she her pronouns, uh, my
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neighbor who was, uh, passed away last
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year was 95 when he passed away. And he
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was, he always said, "Be positive." And
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he was a very positive person despite
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having had a very tough life. um and you
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know a very physical life. He had a lot
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of aches and pains at 95 and he had a
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lot of stories about things that had not
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always gone so well, but he was so
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positive and always attributed his
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positivity to or his um longevity to his
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positivity and it definitely seemed like
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it. Um so yeah, be be positive
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when you have lots of reasons not to be.
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Um Kelly man, I'm on the equity
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committee. she her pronouns. Um there's
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several, but one that one one that I
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just recently said to somebody else was
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um a friend of my mom's I was she was at
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her house and I was kind of whining
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about she was going to large work event
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where I didn't know very many people and
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I was really not kind of dreading it
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because who am I going to talk to? Who
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am I going to say? You know, we're
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supposed to be like a cocktail party
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kind of thing. And she said to me that
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you look for the person who's standing
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by themselves and you go up and talk to
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them because they'll be so happy that
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you talk and you'll be so happy because
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now you got someone to talk to you and
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then somebody else will join you because
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there's some people talking and that has
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worked my entire life now because that
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was a long time ago and I literally gave
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it to a young adult just recently
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because they were kind of whining about
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something they had to go to and they
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didn't know I'm excited and it has dark
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and from an equity perspective it's very
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inclusive right
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my name is Laura Delmore she her
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pronouns I'm also on the
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board while my mom taught me many
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lessons um she's very determined person
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I really had to learn a lesson from my
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dad on how to um let things roll off my
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back to calm down and not take things as
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intensely and also to forgive and forget
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because I think that is important on how
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to just um later on in life I heard the
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phrase like water running off a grass
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spat or something like that and it's not
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quite the same but it's just don't delve
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too deep into this annoyance, anger,
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frustration at somebody else. It's not
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worth it for your life and your health.
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just let it go and you do what you can
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be positive and just move on. So that's
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something that you know Elsa said it
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best to let it go
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but that right before Elsa but yeah
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good evening everyone man
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um Kelly you stole mine but I'm going to
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put a different spin on it
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uh and I was teaching my daughter this
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who's headed off to college in the fall
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Um, it's when you're when
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when be wary of the quiet ones because
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they're the ones that um are thinking
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the most and you need to pull them into
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the conversation thoughtful way. And so
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although they're sitting there absorbing
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all this, they might not be able to
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talk, but they're thinking a lot of
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things. You want to just take a moment
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and say, "Hey, such and such or
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whatever. Um, what do you think?" Mhm.
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So I think you you do an excellent job
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say because not all of us are are
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necessarily speaking but we're thinking
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a lot. So I try to teach her that
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something
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many peers teachers over the years.
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A lot of wisdom in this room. Um my name
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is Natalie Cites. I am a presenter here
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tonight. Uh she her pronouns.
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[Music]
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Um, I was listening a lot of wisdom and
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and several things, but I I remembered
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my grandmother who's since passed by
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more than a decade now. And um, you
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know, sitting at her kitchen table, you
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know, prepping food like walnuts and
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stuff like that. And she was a child of
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the depression. Um, but her kitchen
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always had little bits of string on a
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ball all pulled together and it just was
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a gratefulness for what you have and to
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really get all the use out of an item
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that you can um that I carry forward.
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Caric, thank you. I'm Car on the equity
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board as well. Um, but this is this is
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teachings from elders at the East Bay
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Meditation Center, which is a group that
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I used to be part of back in the Bay
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Area. Um, trying to recollect exactly
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how it goes, but it's roughly along the
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lines of um we take ownership for the
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impact of our words and actions as
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against sort of defending ourselves
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behind the intent. Um because there is
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there's a lot of justifications that can
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be wrapped behind what's the intent of
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why we're saying something or doing
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something. Uh but it really matters how
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it lands for someone. And so that's
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that's always sat with
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me. Thank you. And I'm Priy uh she her
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pronouns. And um one thing I was
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thinking about was something that I
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learned from my parents. And it's um
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something to the effect of it's it's
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more important to be to focus on being
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kind than trying to be the smartest
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person in the room. And so just trying
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to make sure that good doesn't get in
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the way of um like getting the work
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done, moving moving things forward.
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Lastly, thank you and thank you for
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letting me go last. These questions are
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so we so I I know we'll kind of blast
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you on um these questions are so
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insightful that I mean I really got to
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grab this moment and kind of honor the
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question because it's a good one. So
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um you made me think of my uh one of my
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college professors. Her name is uh Sandy
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Shman. She's my marketing professor and
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she would always say to us, don't be
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afraid to act. Uh don't be afraid to
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make a decision. Uh, don't be paralyzed
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by too much information or inactive
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because you don't have enough. Don't be
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afraid. Make a decision. Act. And so,
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um, I always, um, I I talked to the
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folks that report to me and I said,
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"What do you think you know? Think about
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that. And I want you to act. I'm going
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to support you either way, but I want
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you to act. Be decisive." So, yeah.
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Um, thank you. Oh gosh, a lot of
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different things into uh I think maybe
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less something someone said to me and
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more the bottling behavior just my
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grandmother and mother of like
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independence and
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um we would now call it self-care but
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maybe they looked at it as a bit of
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selfishness taking the time to do it on
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your own for yourself instead of um
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allowing to or to always be giving
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giving giving But just take that time to
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for yourself um to make sure that you
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can recover with and prepare to better
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healthier.
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Before we go to the computer,
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oh gosh, you thought you were going to
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get away with this, but Alan is a staff
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member.
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I'm senior
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here works.
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and we helping out with King County
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working with them on a lot of their
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different programs and things that we do
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city um
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so pronoun and I I guess my uh thing
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that I would say would be humility and
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not to be I got that from my father he's
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extremely smart man you know MIT grad
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worked for B engineer and I remember
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going with meetings with him and he was
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literally the smartest guy in the room,
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but he never you would never know that.
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He's just so humble and very modest and
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uh which is
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amazing person. I try to do that always
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the quiet.
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Thank you. And then maybe up on the
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screen, should we start with Tom?
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Can you hear me? We can. Oh, excellent.
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Well, let's see. One thing I've learned
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from author Douglas Adams that I use
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every day, don't
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panic.
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Andy, then from my mother, she was a
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very optimistic person. That's a theme
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many of you have been reflecting on. But
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her little catchphrase was keep looking
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up. And I actually happened to be
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wearing a sweatshirt, but it's at the
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bottom here, but it has that phrase on
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it that my kids gave to me at one point.
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But anyway, keep looking up. Uh, that
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was her words of advice in many, many
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situations. So, that's that's what I've
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got. Thank you. And can
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Yeah. So, one of the So, when I first
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started playing soccer, my very first
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coach, I was I was a very physical
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player. So, I'd always be getting all
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the fouls for the other team. I still
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remember the first thing my coach ever
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told to me was like don't sacrifice the
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team for your own actions. So, like
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don't go like slide tackle this player
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and give them a free goal. And I've kind
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of like carried that throughout my
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entire life. Like don't don't like
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sacrifice other people for doing like if
18:05
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working in a team like making sure that
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the team doesn't get brought down
18:08
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because of you being distracted or not.
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That's just something I carried with me.
18:16
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Okay. And Don.
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Yeah. Hi. Um, thank you. So, mine are
18:22
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pretty basic, but they are very early in
18:24
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life. My dad pulled me aside and and
18:26
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gave me two life lessons, and he said,
18:28
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"Don't lie because then you don't have
18:29
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to remember the lie." And then, and
18:33
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always listen first because uh it might
18:36
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affect your decision on what you're
18:37
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going to speak next.
18:40
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Thank you. And how about Alex?
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Thank you. Uh Al, my name is Alex. I use
18:49
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she her pronouns. I'm on the
18:51
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environmental board.
18:53
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Um when I was in college, I had an
18:56
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internship advisor that gave me a lot of
18:59
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assistance post college getting letters
19:02
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of recommendation and things in. And I
19:03
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sent her an email one day just thanking
19:05
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her so much for helping me get a new job
19:07
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and get to where I felt like I was
19:09
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today. and her email response back to me
19:12
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has stuck with me for a long time
19:13
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because it was you need to think about
19:15
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the things that you've done to get to
19:17
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where you are. Yes, I contributed but
19:19
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you did the work. And so I just got to
19:22
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share that with them at my mentor last
19:23
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year from Gibson High School or not my
19:25
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mentor, my intern with Gibson High
19:26
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School when she was giving a
19:28
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presentation and was profusely thanking
19:30
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everyone for all of their assistance.
19:32
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And I said it, it's great that you
19:34
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recognize and are grateful for the help
19:35
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that you've gotten, but make sure you
19:36
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recognize the work that you have put in
19:38
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to get where you are today. Um, and then
19:41
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my other one was just as my um toddler
19:44
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is running around my house in the
19:46
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background right now. Um, the best
19:48
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advice we got as or like new parents was
19:51
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that you're raising a family, not a
19:53
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house. So, just don't stress the chaos
19:56
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as much as you can. So, those are my
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two. Nice.
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Um, how about Keith?
20:06
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Yeah. Hi. Um, Keith Gonzalez, uh,
20:09
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environmental board, eBay pronouns. Um,
20:12
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I guess thinking of my mom. Um, when I
20:15
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was a kid, she was she's always been
20:17
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very gregarious and outgoing and talks
20:20
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to everybody she meets and uh, makes a
20:22
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really good impression. I I think I was
20:24
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a little embarrassed of that as a kid,
20:25
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you know, out in public and her chatting
20:27
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people up. Um, and I I think, you know,
20:30
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now she's got a really great community
20:32
↗
of folks and friends that uh I I think
20:35
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are a result of that. So, uh it's
20:37
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something that I'm especially the last
20:39
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several years really uh struck by. You
20:41
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know, um it it pays to just be nice to
20:44
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people and and and say hi and strike up
20:46
↗
a conversation.
20:49
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Thanks. And then uh Nancy
20:59
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Sorry, I'm here. I just have to get my
21:00
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camera on. Nancy Davidson, environmental
21:03
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board. And I guess the one thing I
21:05
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picked up from my mother is think before
21:07
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you speak. And a lot of people think
21:10
↗
that you can just kind of I do better
21:13
↗
listening often than speaking. So that
21:15
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really has stuck with me and kind of
21:17
↗
grounded who I am. So there you go.
21:20
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Thank you. Thank you. Has everyone gone?
21:23
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Do we?
21:25
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Yeah. All right, that's awesome. Um,
21:28
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let's see. So, now the next item on our
21:30
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agenda is flood plane management with
21:33
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Natalie and Auda.
21:38
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So, I'm going to share my screen and
21:41
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share the presentation.
21:48
↗
reorient again how to do this through
21:52
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the teams. While she's doing that, um
21:55
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I'll mention my name again, Natalie. Um
21:58
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I'm here, we are here to talk to you, uh
22:01
↗
today's sled pain management. Um, and I
22:04
↗
just really want to, um, thank you all
22:07
↗
for coming here and, you know, volunteer
22:11
↗
boards um, and donating your time and,
22:15
↗
um, really excited to share with you
22:17
↗
about the project.
22:21
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Yeah. And I, um, I turn on my camera
22:24
↗
here so you can look around a little bit
22:26
↗
easily. Um, again, my name's Al Stolk. I
22:29
↗
work at King County in the
22:32
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river. Um I'm a project program manager
22:35
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and I'm the uh lead planner on the Isqua
22:38
↗
Capital Investment Strategy. Yeah.
22:41
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Awesome. And I'm the PM project manager.
22:44
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Sorry. Also with King County. I probably
22:46
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should have led with that.
22:51
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Um yeah. Um so we're here today to talk
22:55
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to you about the Isqua Capital
22:56
↗
Investment Strategy. Um, we're gonna
22:59
↗
introduce flood pain management for
23:01
↗
those of you who might not be familiar
23:03
↗
with it and it's a main term anyway. Um,
23:06
↗
so it's always good to ground ourselves
23:07
↗
in what that actually is. Um, we'll talk
23:10
↗
about the issued capital investment
23:12
↗
strategy, what that is, um, the timeline
23:14
↗
and process for the project, and then
23:17
↗
um, what we're asking your help for in
23:21
↗
um, engaging community
23:28
↗
Um, so flood plane management um isn't
23:32
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always the
23:34
↗
most obvious term. So we're going to
23:36
↗
talk about what it is a little bit. Um,
23:38
↗
it encompasses a lot of things. Um, for
23:41
↗
us that means um, first of all
23:43
↗
identifying hazards. Um, figuring out
23:46
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what flood hazards there might be, what
23:48
↗
hazards there are associated with
23:50
↗
rivers. Um, identifying those,
23:52
↗
monitoring them, and then mapping them.
23:54
↗
and sharing that information uh with
23:58
↗
other entities and with the public where
23:59
↗
it might be useful. Um we do a lot of
24:03
↗
flood uh we provide flood warning
24:05
↗
services. So communicating the risks of
24:08
↗
living in the flood plane to people who
24:10
↗
are living in it and to agencies who
24:12
↗
might um be doing work related to that.
24:16
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And King County has, for example, a
24:18
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flood warning center where whenever
24:21
↗
river is flooding, people can call in
24:22
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and ask for information about river
24:24
↗
flooding, where it's happening. Um, we
24:26
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provide flood alerts. We do flood
24:29
↗
patrols like physically walking along
24:32
↗
rivers where there's flooding to provide
24:34
↗
information to the flood warning.
24:37
↗
Um we flood uh flood plane management is
24:42
↗
also uh protecting residences and
24:45
↗
helping people prepare for flooding. So
24:46
↗
that might involve providing sandbags,
24:49
↗
making them available in some cases um
24:52
↗
things like home elevations um uh
24:57
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providing information on how to be
24:59
↗
prepared for emergencies like floods,
25:01
↗
that sort of thing.
25:03
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Um it also means protecting public
25:06
↗
infrastructure and that's through
25:07
↗
capital projects. Um we do a lot of
25:10
↗
building and maintenance on levies and
25:13
↗
revetments along rivers which is a lot
25:15
↗
of rivers most rivers in King County
25:16
↗
have are built up. They have these like
25:19
↗
concrete or rock revetments and levies
25:21
↗
throughout. Um and a lot of them are
25:23
↗
very old. Um so we do maintenance on
25:26
↗
those. We occasionally will move them
25:28
↗
back to create more room for rivers. we
25:30
↗
might um occasionally create new ones,
25:33
↗
though not as
25:35
↗
frequently. Um and then we work with a
25:38
↗
lot of other agencies and jurisdictions
25:40
↗
to reduce flood risk um and to restore
25:45
↗
rivers as well. And that just
25:47
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encompasses a lot of other work, but
25:50
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kind of an endless list of possibilities
25:52
↗
there.
25:59
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All right. So, what is a capital
26:03
↗
investment strategy? And it's kind of a
26:07
↗
nebulous form in its very simplest form.
26:10
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It's a list of actions
26:14
↗
um that help us decide uh what and when
26:17
↗
to put projects forward in a capital
26:19
↗
investment or facilities plan. So, this
26:22
↗
is kind of that step in between policy
26:26
↗
and what you might see investments in
26:29
↗
the ground being. Um, and we'll be
26:33
↗
working with the city to identify how we
26:35
↗
can align and put the right projects
26:37
↗
forward at the right time. And that's
26:39
↗
really why we develop strategies, why we
26:42
↗
um seek to do it collaboratively with
26:44
↗
the city so that we're really in close
26:47
↗
alignment. Next slide.
26:51
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Uh so the goals and objectives of this
26:53
↗
capital investment strategy
26:56
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um is uh to reduce flood risks in Isqua
27:01
↗
Creek basin through an integrated flood
27:03
↗
plane management approach and
27:05
↗
consideration of multiple benefits. And
27:07
↗
that's a mouthful.
27:10
↗
It's a long sentence and um there's a
27:13
↗
couple components to it with um
27:15
↗
integrated flood plane management and
27:17
↗
multibenefit. These are
27:20
↗
um kind of common terms in our industry,
27:24
↗
but what it means is that uh we're
27:27
↗
always looking to reduce flood risk.
27:30
↗
That's first,
27:32
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but there are impacts to the environment
27:35
↗
of of flood risk reduction efforts. um
27:39
↗
water quality, equity, um environmental
27:43
↗
justice, and we are looking to
27:48
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um for lack of a better word, be mindful
27:52
↗
of those impacts and help to um enhance
27:55
↗
benefits where we can. Um so that's what
27:58
↗
integrated flood plane management means.
28:00
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It means that we are primarily focused
28:03
↗
on flood risk, but we also consider a
28:05
↗
breadth of other opportunities to help
28:08
↗
us achieve our goals. Um, the three
28:11
↗
objectives um are to provide information
28:14
↗
and enhance our program. So, as Alex
28:18
↗
mentioned, we currently provide um flood
28:21
↗
warning um throughout the county,
28:23
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including the city of Isqua. We
28:25
↗
coordinate very closely with the city on
28:26
↗
that. We do flood patrol routes in the
28:30
↗
Isqua basin to um check on roadways and
28:34
↗
where there might be erosion. Um so
28:38
↗
looking at how we can enhance that and
28:40
↗
make sure that we are um providing the
28:43
↗
best services we can and also to provide
28:47
↗
information.
28:48
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Um, a lot of the work that we do is
28:51
↗
focused on major rivers. And so, um, is
28:55
↗
aqua basin since it's a smaller creek as
28:58
↗
opposed to like the Cedar River or the
29:00
↗
White River, um, or the Green River. Um,
29:04
↗
you know, we we haven't historically
29:06
↗
been as active in this basin. And so
29:09
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that's another key important um, goal of
29:12
↗
this uh, strategy.
29:15
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Um, as I mentioned, the capital
29:16
↗
investment strategy is at its core a
29:19
↗
list of of potential programs and
29:22
↗
projects that we think will provide the
29:23
↗
best benefit. Um, and the last important
29:28
↗
objective is to use hazard mapping um to
29:31
↗
identify opportunities for partnership.
29:34
↗
Um, there's lots of studies ongoing
29:36
↗
right now. two of which um seek to map
29:40
↗
the um flood inundation risk and set new
29:44
↗
firm um flood insurance rate maps. Um
29:47
↗
and those help uh protect people and
29:51
↗
make people aware of risk but also
29:53
↗
protect allow uh the purchase of um
29:56
↗
flood insurance to help protect from
29:59
↗
impacts. Um, the other study that's
30:02
↗
ongoing right now that the county is
30:04
↗
leading is the channel migration zone
30:06
↗
study. And again, more big words, but
30:09
↗
what that study looks at is the way the
30:12
↗
creek moves over time, whether it's
30:15
↗
eroding against the bank or it also
30:18
↗
looks at the possibility of a sudden
30:21
↗
channel movement. um and that is where
30:25
↗
uh the creek would go in a new direction
30:28
↗
from where it has historically been
30:29
↗
flowing. Um so those are two important
30:33
↗
um hazard mapping efforts that really
30:36
↗
help inform where we uh think hazards
30:40
↗
are currently and where we think they're
30:41
↗
likely to occur in the
30:43
↗
future. Um next
30:46
↗
slide. So this is a very
30:49
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big generalized overview of where we're
30:52
↗
at. Um, we hope to have engagement
30:55
↗
throughout the project. Um, it started
30:58
↗
in in
31:00
↗
2024. Um, as Alan mentioned, we've been
31:03
↗
working um with the city for a while
31:06
↗
coordinating projects and flood risk
31:08
↗
reduction activities. Um, and we sent a
31:11
↗
letter out uh to residents um in the
31:16
↗
flood plane, oh gosh, couple months ago,
31:20
↗
three weeks ago or so. you might have
31:22
↗
received it if you live in the plane.
31:24
↗
Yeah.
31:26
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Um and uh so this first part 2024 to
31:30
↗
2026 and so we've done some d gathering
31:34
↗
but we're still right at the beginning
31:35
↗
stages of that and we'll be doing that
31:38
↗
for this year and a bit of next year
31:41
↗
too. What we're looking at are the
31:43
↗
condition of our river facilities. Um
31:47
↗
there are
31:49
↗
41 reventments and levies um in the
31:53
↗
Isqua Basin in total. A reventment is a
31:57
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rock
31:58
↗
embankment that is used to help keep the
32:02
↗
uh river channel where it currently is
32:05
↗
located.
32:07
↗
uh a reventment doesn't provide
32:10
↗
um inundation protection and that is
32:14
↗
when the flood waters rise it will over
32:16
↗
top the reventment the main channel will
32:19
↗
stay where it is but the area on the
32:21
↗
flood plane will get
32:22
↗
flooded. Uh the majority of facilities
32:27
↗
within this all the cities within the
32:29
↗
municipal boundary of Isiqua that we
32:31
↗
manage are
32:32
↗
reventments.
32:35
↗
Um and then there are some facilities
32:37
↗
further upstream most of which are also
32:39
↗
reventments. Um and just a few are
32:42
↗
identified as levies. Um leveies on the
32:45
↗
other hand have both a rock facing but
32:47
↗
are also elevated to keep the inundation
32:51
↗
water in the river channel. Um so we'll
32:55
↗
be looking at the condition of our
32:56
↗
facilities. As Alex
32:58
↗
mentioned, it's been a while. It's been
33:00
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a minute.
33:02
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um and um you know the condition
33:05
↗
changes. We'll also be looking at
33:07
↗
different embankment areas that the city
33:09
↗
is concerned about and other partners
33:11
↗
might be concerned about. Um we are
33:14
↗
going to use those studies to help
33:17
↗
understand the location of flood
33:19
↗
hazards. Um as I mentioned inundation
33:22
↗
which is you know being
33:24
↗
underwater and then erosion is the
33:26
↗
movement of the channels it completely
33:29
↗
moving and then there are other hazards
33:32
↗
like um there's a term deep fast flow
33:36
↗
and that is where we look at the
33:38
↗
combination of how fast the water is
33:40
↗
moving with how deep it is and that
33:42
↗
really presents a threat to life safety.
33:45
↗
Um, if you've ever been waiting in a
33:48
↗
creek, you'll know that water can be
33:50
↗
pretty forceful and sometimes it just
33:54
↗
takes a foot or so of water um for
33:57
↗
somebody to be swept away. And so um
34:00
↗
we'll be looking at a variety of um
34:03
↗
those hazards and also landslides that
34:06
↗
are in contact with the stream because
34:08
↗
also sediment is a huge part of the
34:12
↗
story of Isiqua Creek um and how it
34:15
↗
moves through this basin. So we'll be
34:17
↗
looking at the location of flood
34:18
↗
hazards. The next part of the data
34:21
↗
gathering is looking at communities,
34:26
↗
looking at where infrastructure is
34:28
↗
located, where people live,
34:32
↗
uh where they um meet and have uh
34:37
↗
locations that are
34:39
↗
important. Um and
34:41
↗
so that involves a lot of
34:45
↗
um looking at critical infrastructure.
34:47
↗
inventories for things like roadways,
34:50
↗
but also talking with the community and
34:52
↗
finding out what's most important um and
34:55
↗
where people are located.
34:57
↗
Um the overlay of the
35:02
↗
hazards with where communities are
35:05
↗
located, where those overlay, that's
35:08
↗
risk. Um and so we have this component,
35:12
↗
then we have the community component.
35:13
↗
putting those two together is how we
35:16
↗
look at where risk is and that's really
35:19
↗
what we're looking to manage
35:22
↗
um overall and reduce. Um and then we
35:26
↗
also take a look at what our current
35:28
↗
capabilities and resources are. You know
35:31
↗
we are currently doing a certain set of
35:34
↗
activities. Are they
35:35
↗
functioning the way we want them to? Can
35:39
↗
we enhance our services in some ways? Um
35:43
↗
so that's all part of the data
35:45
↗
gathering. After the data gathering
35:47
↗
phase starting this year, late this year
35:50
↗
and moving into 2027 will be the
35:53
↗
planning and strategy development. Um
35:56
↗
and that's where we w where we get into
35:59
↗
the values of the community and um the
36:03
↗
priorities of the community especially
36:04
↗
when it comes into those um in other
36:08
↗
benefits that I mentioned related to
36:12
↗
um uh integrated flood plane management
36:15
↗
and what we're seeking to achieve from
36:18
↗
our our projects. Um, we'll be looking
36:21
↗
at reduction investments and strategies
36:23
↗
in conjunction with the city and looking
36:26
↗
at where we can have the greatest risk
36:29
↗
reduction benefit for the cost
36:34
↗
um and other benefits. Um, so that's a a
36:39
↗
really high level overview of um the
36:43
↗
timeline and
36:45
↗
process. Um, next slide.
36:52
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And as I mentioned, we're we're not
36:54
↗
doing this in a vacuum. There have been
36:57
↗
a number of studies, especially since
36:59
↗
2020,
37:01
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um when when there was a a large flood
37:05
↗
event here in the Isiqua Basin. Um so
37:10
↗
the King County flood hazard management
37:12
↗
plan was recently completed and that
37:15
↗
sets policy for unincorporated King
37:17
↗
County
37:19
↗
Um the Isiqua Creek channel migration
37:23
↗
zone study um is currently underway. Um
37:27
↗
you may have met one of my um
37:29
↗
co-workers, Judy Radloff. She's been
37:32
↗
walking the entire creek um looking at
37:34
↗
the geology, looking at past uh channel,
37:38
↗
the way the river has moved over time um
37:42
↗
as well as you know where it has been
37:43
↗
and maybe where um over time as Isiqua
37:46
↗
and unincorporated King County has been
37:48
↗
developed or it's been straightened. Um
37:52
↗
and so we're expecting the results of
37:55
↗
that study this year. We're also
37:58
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expecting the
38:00
↗
uh study to be be complete of the flood
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↗
study this year. Um it being adopted by
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FEMA and becoming firm rate maps, which
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is the flood insurance rate maps, is a
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multi-year process, but we certainly
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will have the technical results of the
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study um this year, and that's really
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what we're going to be using as a large
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part of our our technical foundation.
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Um, the city of
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Isiqua has done a tremendous amount of
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flood risk reduction work. Um, and
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currently is working on studies in the
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Sycamore and Dogwood neighborhoods. Um,
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and also is currently underway your all
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hazard mitigation plan. As I mentioned,
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the King County flood hazard management
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plan is the policy basis for
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unincorporated King County. The all
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hazard m uh mitigation plan and the
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local policies would set that the
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background for the city of Isiqua. Um so
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that's sort of how some of these other
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efforts might feed into the work we're
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doing.
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Thanks, Alie. Um so for the part of our
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work that is engaging with uh
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communities in and around
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um we particularly want to learn about
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community values um broadly speaking and
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the needs of people who are impacted by
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flooding whether it's because they live
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in floodprone areas or they um use
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infrastructure or other community assets
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in those areas or maybe they work in
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them or travel through them. Um, we want
39:50
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to know what local knowledge there might
39:52
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be of flooding. We do flood plane
39:55
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modeling. We do flood mapping, but it's
39:56
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never perfect as models models are never
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perfect. Um, and people who live near
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the river or near the creek will
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probably have local knowledge of
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flooding hotspots that we can't see in
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our maps. So, we want to know that sort
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of thing. Um, we also want to learn
40:12
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about uh well, I mean, sorry, being a
40:15
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bit repetitive here, but what locations
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and what assets are most important to
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people and might be impacted by
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flooding. We're talking
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about I mean things that I can't
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conceive of necessarily because I don't
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live here and I'm not part of the
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community, but everything from food
40:32
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banks to cultural sites to um you know
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parks that are particularly frequented
40:38
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by people and people rely on because
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they only take their kids out um uh
40:42
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senior centers, community centers, other
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community spaces, gathering places. um
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where what are the important assets to
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communities in Isiqua and where are they
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and um are they potentially already
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impacted by flooding or if they're like
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close to the river is there concern that
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they
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um and we also want to learn as we're
41:06
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reaching out to people how uh I mean
41:08
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this is a little bit at the front end of
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that how best we communicate with um
41:14
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communities here and that All of those
41:17
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questions are kind of why we're talking
41:20
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to you all today. Um, we are hoping that
41:24
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you will help us um or help us and help
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the city of Isabah think about who we
41:29
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should reach out to um as we're trying
41:31
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to answer some of these questions. So,
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who are the key community um like
41:36
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champions who might be good people or
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good organizations or good um liaison to
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talk to as we're trying to discover some
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of this information.
41:46
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Um, and we are
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uh also
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particularly interested in talking to um
41:56
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communities that are most vulnerable to
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impacts from flooding. And we're
42:00
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thinking about traditionally underserved
42:01
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communities, communities of color that
42:04
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are at risk of flooding and erosion. Um,
42:06
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seniors immigrants uh low-income
42:10
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communities, renters and tenant
42:11
↗
associations, and then minority owned
42:13
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businesses, for example.
42:17
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Um, so we're hoping that, yeah, you can
42:20
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connect us with contacts and liaison and
42:23
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and and who should we be talking to to
42:25
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discover
42:26
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this?
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Um, okay. Closing slides here. Uh, to
42:32
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learn more about the project, we have
42:34
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links here. I think that everyone has a
42:37
↗
copy of the I'm not sure was the
42:39
↗
presentation mailed emailed out for
42:41
↗
people who are online. Yes. So, everyone
42:44
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has links here and I'm happy to put them
42:47
↗
in the chat, too, so they're a little
42:48
↗
bit easier. But we have a project web
42:50
↗
page. Um, you can sign up for blood
42:53
↗
alerts. Uh, they come to your phone and
42:55
↗
they come to your email. So if if Swa
42:57
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Creek reaches um there are different
43:00
↗
stages of flooding and if it starts
43:01
↗
flooding you get a nice little alert to
43:03
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your phone which is handy. Um and flood
43:06
↗
season
43:07
↗
is uh through April. So we could have
43:10
↗
more flooding. Um you can also sign up
43:14
↗
to receive email updates about this
43:16
↗
projects and project and any others in
43:18
↗
the in Isqua Creek through this email
43:21
↗
list here. Um, and then if anybody ever
43:25
↗
needs language and accessibility
43:27
↗
services or needs any of our materials
43:28
↗
in other languages or translation or
43:30
↗
interpretation for inerson things, we
43:32
↗
can do that. So, you can reach out to me
43:35
↗
um there and I can set that
43:38
↗
up. So, thank you so much for listening
43:41
↗
to us. Um, sort of hoping that we can
43:44
↗
open up the conversation here and hear
43:47
↗
any questions that you might have about
43:48
↗
what we've presented and any ideas you
43:50
↗
might have. Um, and it's also fine if if
43:55
↗
you just have questions for now and we
43:57
↗
communicate um through leaison later on
44:01
↗
or or in person or directly.
44:05
↗
We're open to it all. Yeah. Do you
44:07
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already have a list that you're working
44:10
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on
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because I feel like it still has a lot
44:13
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of groups.
44:15
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So it'll be interesting to know
44:18
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more when we give input of other
44:21
↗
organizations. That's a good point. I
44:24
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think that our consultants will be
44:26
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developing a list. Um we we do also
44:30
↗
already have kind of a working list some
44:32
↗
organizations that we have in mind.
44:34
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Yeah, we do have um you know I know um
44:37
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Mountain to Sound Greenway, Trout
44:40
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Unlimited, we um have received
44:46
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Yeah. And
44:47
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um
44:49
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um Oh gosh. Alps. Yes. Mhm.
44:56
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Um
44:58
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um and um other community groups as
45:02
↗
well. Um we could share that list. Yeah.
45:05
↗
So that I think that we should share
45:07
↗
that list. That'd be a good and
45:13
↗
chapter if you already have a robust
45:16
↗
list so that then we can kind of help
45:18
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brainstorm people that we miss. Okay.
45:21
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Yeah. That's great. Yeah.
45:25
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So, a a question for you like so as
45:28
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you're doing this engagement and you're
45:30
↗
building the list for strategy, are you
45:36
↗
um like with what goes on the list or
45:39
↗
what you recommend moves forward? Um
45:43
↗
what what are you factoring in I'm
45:46
↗
thinking about like maybe historical
45:48
↗
racist practices? So similar to like red
45:50
↗
lining and things like that because you
45:53
↗
know I I have a sense that you know
45:55
↗
certain where certain infrastructure has
45:57
↗
been developed that might have been
46:00
↗
privileging certain groups and ignoring
46:02
↗
other groups and which has like
46:04
↗
long-term implications on property
46:06
↗
values when you talk about you know
46:08
↗
residential properties. So just kind of
46:10
↗
thinking about what if there's any
46:12
↗
historical patterns around that in the
46:14
↗
area that might need undoing.
46:18
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Yeah. So, um we will be looking um and
46:24
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coordinating with the city
46:26
↗
um to help
46:29
↗
identify areas like that. There's
46:32
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certainly information around HUD and
46:35
↗
low-income housing. There certainly we
46:38
↗
can look to the comp plan the city has
46:41
↗
recently developed to understand where
46:43
↗
um low-income populations and and
46:46
↗
populations that are vulnerable might be
46:47
↗
in the future.
46:49
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Um but again this is this is information
46:52
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that we we definitely want to seek local
46:54
↗
knowledge on a lot of times with
46:58
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um red lining and those type of things.
47:02
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Um I know it's readily available in some
47:05
↗
areas. I honestly don't know if it's
47:07
↗
readily available as well. Sure either.
47:10
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I have tried to look for that data in
47:11
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Mexico and it's I've not been able to
47:13
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find
47:15
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it searching for it but I do know that
47:18
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there are some complexes that have been
47:21
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impacted
47:23
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for the past I've lived here for the
47:24
↗
past 25 years and I'm sure you have that
47:27
↗
issue um and there are many apartment
47:29
↗
complexes and houses in the downtown
47:32
↗
area and I'm just wondering if you have
47:35
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a list of all the homes because if you
47:38
↗
ask many of the people long-term
47:40
↗
residences, they'll talk about which
47:42
↗
houses had fish or which apartments had
47:44
↗
fish going through because different
47:47
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floods at all different times. And so I
47:50
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think collecting data of which houses
47:52
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have been impacted, which businesses
47:55
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have been impacted. Yeah. Because again
47:58
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in the German military area there were
48:00
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lots of impacts and businesses that have
48:03
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to be closed. this apartment over here,
48:05
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the brown one that basically the river
48:09
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on both sides. Um I remember it being on
48:12
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fish in it. The little one island
48:16
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further up and so every time there'd be
48:18
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rain, I'd be walking around the
48:22
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creek to see what the impacts on
48:24
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riparian and flood zones were also. Um,
48:28
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but I'm also wondering, have you I would
48:30
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recommend putting Kanas besides the fish
48:33
↗
catcher on the list because the Kanians
48:35
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in the city of Isqua are uh long-term
48:39
↗
residents of the city and they have a
48:41
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vast knowledge and past history and
48:44
↗
areas that have been impacted
48:47
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uh for the port. I'm wondering if you
48:50
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can also connect with the
48:52
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range. They are also on long term. I
48:55
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think they're celebrating their 70th or
48:57
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90th um anniversary of doing local
49:01
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community work in the area. So I think
49:05
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those two groups have been very active
49:09
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and have historical knowledge of the
49:12
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area and sounds like if she's in the
49:14
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area she should be able to the person
49:17
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doing study would be like um I don't
49:20
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know um Dale can the city run numbers
49:24
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and contacts for families along the
49:27
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creek so that that information is
49:30
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available
49:32
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as do you have a database
49:35
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that can you collect something like
49:36
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that? I'm sure that within like
49:40
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community planning and development in
49:41
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terms of ownership that probably could
49:44
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be done. Yeah, that I would imagine
49:47
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Yeah, would be information that you
49:48
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would already be able to have access to.
49:51
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We
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49:53
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um we certainly have the repetitive loss
49:57
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information and that's when you have
49:58
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repetitive insurance
50:00
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claims.
50:02
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Um, and we certainly from monitoring
50:04
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like I know Creek Side Apartments
50:06
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because we monitor
50:08
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it was probably one of the places you
50:10
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were speaking towards.
50:12
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Um, but yeah, any information that might
50:16
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exist about that and um and we we I mean
50:20
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like with the the letter we mailed a
50:22
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couple of weeks ago, it was to all
50:27
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Yeah. all this to the taxpayer mailing
50:29
↗
addresses because that's the assessor
50:32
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data is that were within the 100 year
50:34
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flood plane. So like in theory that gets
50:36
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to a lot of property owners not
50:39
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necessarily renters. Yeah, that's the
50:42
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challenge. I'm not sure. Exactly.
50:44
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Because a lot of those houses right here
50:46
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in the downtown area that have impacted
50:48
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our renters living in these little tiny
50:51
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houses from the main owner. And so
50:55
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honestly it feels like
50:57
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doortodo QR code translated
51:01
↗
information and it it feels like this
51:04
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one because it's such a tight-knit
51:06
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community needs a little bit more
51:09
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personal interaction to collect the data
51:13
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surveys or um like a meal sent to owners
51:18
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when it might have been like so many
51:20
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sales have been sold that they now have
51:22
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renters
51:24
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Ralon has something to do. Yeah.
51:28
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See Canal has his hand raised up there.
51:31
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Yeah.
51:32
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So, I've I'm familiar with an
51:35
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organization. It's I believe it's called
51:37
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Mountains to Sound Greenway. I'm not
51:39
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sure if you guys know about that, but in
51:42
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I know that they do a lot of work with
51:45
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high they have a high school program
51:46
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that works with water and I think maybe
51:50
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like 50 to 60 um this is just from what
51:53
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I've heard around 50 to 60 kids work
51:55
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with them to work in King County and
51:59
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like with water and just like just like
52:02
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maintaining the environment. I'm not
52:03
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sure but you guys can look more into
52:04
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that. Um, but if you're trying to look
52:07
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for like youth who have like connections
52:09
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with um with other youth who can kind of
52:12
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create like who can spread that
52:14
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information and who also are involved in
52:18
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this kind of work, I think that's a good
52:19
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organization to um reach out to. Maybe
52:23
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they can help you more with that. Cool.
52:26
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How does this sound really?
52:32
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What um can I ask a follow question?
52:36
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead.
52:38
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So, what products do you think would be
52:41
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most useful? Like would a social media
52:44
↗
blast or would
52:46
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um um what if we were to create products
52:51
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that could go to that group with the
52:53
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high school program to help spread the
52:55
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word? Um is that like a social media
52:59
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outlet? What what what product would
53:01
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that look like? Sorry. Yeah. So, I think
53:04
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I remember looking at the website um
53:07
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once and I remember that they go in the
53:10
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field a few days of the week and then
53:11
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they also do some office work. So, maybe
53:14
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as part of the office work you could
53:16
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kind of work with the organization and
53:18
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the youth can kind of develop like maybe
53:21
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like something so it benefits the kids
53:24
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too. Like they can make up their own
53:26
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plan on how to educate people about this
53:29
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and kind of like take lead on it on
53:30
↗
their own. But like as a guide, maybe
53:33
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social media works, maybe like making a
53:35
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website, promoting it, um hosting
53:38
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events, um educating people about this
53:40
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at isqua events. Um I think I think
53:44
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that's those are all good ideas that
53:46
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could work. Thank you. Yeah,
53:51
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I think you need volunteer hours, right?
53:54
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So, high school youth. So, if you're
53:57
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talking about doortodoor or something
53:59
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like that, then that could be a good
54:02
↗
option to bring them together and maybe
54:05
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send in groups or something to cover a
54:07
↗
certain area.
54:09
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Yeah, I think in terms of youth
54:12
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specifically, like reaching out through
54:14
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like the King County um social media
54:16
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pages would be really helpful. And I
54:18
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know a lot of parents of high schoolers
54:20
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or like you people check um school
54:24
↗
newsletters. So looking through like
54:26
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those platforms and asking people like
54:28
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have you had experience with clubs or
54:30
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like communities or businesses he knows
54:32
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would really get a lot of input.
54:37
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That that could be like uh working
54:38
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through the school district. Yeah.
54:43
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Reach a lot of families.
54:46
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Yeah. I just have a question out of
54:48
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curiosity. So I hear you mention that
54:49
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the last time where the flood event
54:51
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happened was 2020. Is that somewhere in
54:54
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your comments? Uh the there was the
54:56
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following year 2020 was a federally
55:00
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declared disaster. The following year
55:01
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you also had flood and it was occurring
55:04
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at that time was it not? So all these
55:06
↗
dates that I see here are post that. Was
55:08
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that prompted by by that event? Some of
55:11
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it was and some of it wasn't. I believe
55:14
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the either this the channel migration
55:16
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was its own zone study or I think the
55:19
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channel migration zone study might have
55:20
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been before and then the
55:24
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um blood study might have been prompted
55:27
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by it. This CIS that I'm doing was
55:30
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certainly prompted by 2020.
55:33
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It was absolutely Yeah, I was just
55:34
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curious. And then so going back to that
55:36
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event, maybe this is a question for us
55:37
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and Dale, like if if people were out on
55:40
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the streets putting sandbags because
55:42
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they didn't want water to flow in their
55:43
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homes, what was the city doing all these
55:46
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folks that needed
55:47
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assistance? What's a question for
55:52
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um team here in this? Well, yeah, we
55:56
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have a I mean once you know the county
55:58
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like they said they have the flood flood
56:00
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warning center and they you know as
56:02
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they're monitoring all the flows in this
56:05
↗
creek at different gauging stations and
56:07
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it gets and they send off notices
56:09
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warnings when it gets to certain
56:10
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elevations flood stages the stage one
56:13
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two three and
56:15
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four phases I should say and so
56:18
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operations city operations also monitors
56:21
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that flood warning information you know
56:22
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or the web page they're tracking the
56:24
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gauges and making sure and seeing where
56:26
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where the you know where the that's why
56:29
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that gauge is going to eventually where
56:32
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it's headed towards in the future,
56:33
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right? And so and they what they do is
56:35
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they I'm not I'm not the flood manager.
56:37
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I'm not a hazard, you know, manager for
56:39
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the city, but I know if it looks like
56:41
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it's it's to the stage four, which is
56:43
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the highest stage where you start, I
56:46
↗
figure the different see, you know,
56:48
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cubic feet per second, but when you
56:49
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start to see flooding, I think it's
56:51
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stage two, stage two, they activate, the
56:53
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city's operations center gets activated
56:56
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and they um and then they think some
56:58
↗
point they do put out I mean, I know
56:59
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it's in the past they had um you know,
57:02
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they put on the website where sandbag
57:04
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locations where they're going to stage
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sandbags, and the public can come and
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basically fill up a sandbag. I mean, we
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don't act the city doesn't actively go
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out and place the sandbags on private
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properties, but we provide the
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resources, the sand and the bags to do
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that effort. And similar to the bomb
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cycle, we the city also provides
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temporary housing for them not a place
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to go for refuge. Yeah. I'm not I'm
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sorry. I don't have the details of that.
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Tom, did you want to share your comment
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or question? Oh, I'm sorry. It was the
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attention drawn my way and I I was too I
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must have delaz. Sorry. Um any so what I
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was thinking is uh Isqua Food and
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Clothing Bank might have enough
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organizational memory to correlate back
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to flood events and people who have came
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come in for support um food or or
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clothing because of flood events in the
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past. Maybe maybe that's a stretch
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because that would require keeping
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records back to flood flood events. But
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anyway, that's a thought. That's where
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people go who are uh in need of some
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help. Uh so there might be a connection
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there that would uh draw give you some
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insight into where people are being
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impacted by flood
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events. That's all I had on that.
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And
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then so just to build a little bit on on
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your question
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um with the services. So Jared I believe
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is the name of your emergency manager.
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He's been here a few times. Yeah. Um and
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so that city of Isqua all hazard uh
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mitigation plan kind of lays forth the
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current the current city
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capabilities. Certainly when we have
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high water and we're on our patrol
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routes
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um you know certainly there there are
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lots of conversations that we have with
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folks while we do that. One of the
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things I've thought about, but again,
59:26
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this is where the community conversation
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comes in, is that, you know, the CERT
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teams, community emergency response
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teams, maybe that could be a good
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partnership opportunity that we don't
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currently do. And this is again where
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that that
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um talking back and forth about who best
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serves the community in an emergency. Is
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it the search teams? is at the food
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bank, you know, how do we create these
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networks?
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Um, sorry, I live in the zone right
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here. Um, certain here, they're
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all the city's clearly calling if not
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the community is. And then I also wanted
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to say thank you very much to the city,
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but the city has a lot in flood plane
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and um,
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uh, they provide sand and bags now.
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people have already sandbagged this
1:00:21
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year, but there's still big piles of it,
1:00:23
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which I think is, you know, this way
1:00:25
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people can do it who know that they're
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the ones who are most at risk. So, it's
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a it's a wonderful service that's
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provided. You know, you have to do it
1:00:32
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yourself, but there's, you know, many of
1:00:34
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us are very used to doing it. So, just
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get out there and do it.
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Is that a Are you familiar with that
1:00:41
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service, Alan? Well, right. You're
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right. So, I know in the past they we I
1:00:45
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think it was over by the community
1:00:46
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center where they staged the sand and
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the bags and then people would just show
1:00:50
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up and they, you know, if they really
1:00:52
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help them or not, but mostly just to
1:00:54
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monitor and make sure that there's
1:00:56
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plenty of sand available.
1:00:58
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And now they have it, like I said, in
1:00:59
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the lot. Yeah. You know, like that way.
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Yeah. You said now they're even Yeah.
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It's an empty lot that's not developed
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yet by the city. And so they just put
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sand there so that our neighborhood can,
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you know, bag when they need to. Yeah.
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And be prepared.
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But it's is it unmanned? It's unmanned.
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It has a sign says it's the cities.
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Yeah. Take it freely. Yeah. I was just
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It'd be great to know who is taking it.
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Yeah. And I don't if there's any benefit
1:01:32
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explain maybe what the flood plane is
1:01:34
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how we define the flood plane but maybe
1:01:36
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everyone here knows that
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about that background
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maybe we talk about flood plane what
1:01:43
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what do we actually what is that
1:01:44
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boundary what is it how do we
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so we talk a lot about what what's you
1:01:52
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probably heard the term hundredyear
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flood plane
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um what that means is a a flood that has
1:01:59
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a 1% annual chance of recurring. You
1:02:02
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could certainly have two hundredyear
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floods in successive years. Um, and over
1:02:09
↗
time that chance changes. Uh, some of
1:02:13
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that is to do with climate change, but
1:02:15
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some of it is to do with our land use
1:02:16
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practices and impervious
1:02:18
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surfaces. Um, and so what we do is we
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look
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at the maximum storms that we can expect
1:02:27
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with that recurrence.
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hitting the tributaries and the main
1:02:33
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stem. Um, and we look at what that level
1:02:37
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looks like. And we also, um, and this
1:02:40
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was an ad that was actually suggestion
1:02:42
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from the city of Isiqua, are looking at
1:02:45
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those scenarios from climate change as
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well. Um, I think for the 50-year um,
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flood event. So
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um looking at those the probability of
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the storm that would generate a certain
1:02:59
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flow profile and then it hitting you
1:03:03
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know simultaneously
1:03:05
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um because you have the east fork the
1:03:07
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north fork both coming in. Neither of
1:03:11
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those two are actually in my study minus
1:03:14
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the focused on the main stem and Hobart
1:03:17
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Creek going up. Um
1:03:20
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but we are but East Fork is being we're
1:03:23
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looking at the East Fork. Oh yeah, the
1:03:24
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city is definitely on the East Fork.
1:03:26
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That's a map that's in the maps. It is.
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Yes. No, there's certainly a the flood
1:03:33
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study will map the main stem and six
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tributaries.
1:03:38
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So including East Fork. Um but the the
1:03:42
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study area of the um flood study is
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larger than where the capital investment
1:03:49
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strategy is looking to invest.
1:03:51
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And and just to title back, the flood
1:03:53
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plane is the area of land that would be
1:03:56
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inundated with water in 100. Yeah. And
1:04:01
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that there are some nuances to the
1:04:03
↗
modeling.
1:04:05
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probably shouldn't have even said that
1:04:06
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out loud, but this is why we ask for
1:04:09
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local knowledge and um you know because
1:04:12
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no model is is perfect. It's our best
1:04:14
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available science to know without
1:04:16
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actually having a flood. But
1:04:19
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um we we really do also appreciate the
1:04:22
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local knowledge especially when it comes
1:04:24
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to that storm water creek interaction.
1:04:27
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Um, and really the logo is important
1:04:29
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when we develop the models. We run the
1:04:31
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model is like to validate the models and
1:04:34
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check. Okay, well here's what the
1:04:35
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model's showing at this location. Oh, we
1:04:37
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got some historical data. We got some
1:04:38
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photographs. Oh, that's exactly yeah, we
1:04:40
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got flooding up the year. That house got
1:04:42
↗
whatever flooded and it's a good check
1:04:44
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to see that the model is yes, we don't
1:04:47
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think it is. One of the things we did
1:04:49
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for the flood study is get high water
1:04:51
↗
marks from different storm events. So,
1:04:54
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we asked residents along the creek if
1:04:56
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they had pictures of the 2020 storm or
1:04:59
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the 1990 storm. Um, you know, some of
1:05:03
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these major storm events. And if you
1:05:05
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have a picture where the flow was like
1:05:07
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the 2020
1:05:09
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with the hatchery, yeah, we can say,
1:05:11
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okay, we know the flow in Isaokqu was
1:05:15
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this at that
1:05:17
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time. And we could see where that that
1:05:20
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ended up on the landscape. And we use
1:05:22
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that to calibrate the models. What and
1:05:26
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wow, I'm getting this is way too
1:05:27
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technical, but what that doesn't account
1:05:30
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for is how sediment changes over time,
1:05:32
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right? Um, and that's a big part of the
1:05:35
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story, too. I'm wondering if you could
1:05:37
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ask the fish hatchery because they have
1:05:40
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a very stronghold of volunteers along
1:05:43
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with the kanas and the two groups um
1:05:46
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have a very strong historical knowledge
1:05:49
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and working with the two of them to
1:05:50
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organize some kind of information or
1:05:53
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conversation in the community and pull
1:05:56
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people in to have that conversation
1:05:59
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because it would be a great learning and
1:06:01
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sharing building community also. But it
1:06:05
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it would be very inclusive of all the
1:06:07
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people in Canada at the downtown isa
1:06:09
↗
area. You have a lot of people like as
1:06:12
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someone who's lived in Isiqua for 25
1:06:14
↗
years, I can talk to a lot of people
1:06:16
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like, "Oh, you remember this? You
1:06:17
↗
remember that?" I mean, I remember
1:06:19
↗
February, I think it was 6th, 2020 and
1:06:22
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like going down to my dentist's office
1:06:24
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and walking across the bridge going, "Oh
1:06:26
↗
my goodness, oh my goodness, what's
1:06:27
↗
happen?" I mean, I knew it was
1:06:28
↗
happening, but you know, it's that, wow,
1:06:31
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it's a quiet again. And so there are a
1:06:32
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lot of people who can tell you a lot of
1:06:34
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those stories, but I'm wondering if you
1:06:36
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could build community and pulling them
1:06:38
↗
out to then help identify they could
1:06:41
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maybe share other residents or community
1:06:44
↗
members. And so really make it a
1:06:46
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conversation and a gathering and once
1:06:49
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you share the information because a lot
1:06:51
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of people also if you're looking for
1:06:53
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historical knowledge they might not be
1:06:55
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using social media and technology as
1:06:58
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much. So I'm hesitant to say oh you know
1:07:02
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create a whole bunch of flyers and but I
1:07:05
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think doing more community because I
1:07:08
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think the data first says that we have a
1:07:11
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high number of residents who are at a
1:07:13
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certain age and we really want to pull
1:07:16
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those residents into gather
1:07:24
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at 34
1:07:26
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Tom did you have something else you
1:07:28
↗
wanted to add?
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I'm sorry. No, I forgot to bring my hand
1:07:34
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down. Sorry about that. No worries. Uh I
1:07:39
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thought the organization Historical
1:07:43
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very activated.
1:07:45
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Yeah, we did. I believe Judy Radoff
1:07:48
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reached out to them for historic photos.
1:07:50
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Yeah. Uh the Isqua Historic Society.
1:07:53
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Yeah. Okay.
1:07:56
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You know I Jared was mentioned earlier I
1:07:58
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think you he might be doing some a
1:08:00
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afteraction reporting from the box
1:08:02
↗
cyclones. So he might have like front of
1:08:05
↗
mind like
1:08:06
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current communities individuals who were
1:08:10
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probably most impacted by that that
1:08:13
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could maybe be intersecting with the
1:08:16
↗
same types of no weather events like
1:08:19
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like this could be or at least some
1:08:21
↗
lessons learned about who was difficult
1:08:23
↗
to get in touch with. that I think could
1:08:25
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be helpful learn from you know the gaps
1:08:28
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that we experienced.
1:08:30
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Yeah.
1:08:32
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Canel.
1:08:34
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Yeah. So at Skyline um last year I was
1:08:38
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part of the green team club at our
1:08:40
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school and as part of that we made like
1:08:43
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a lot of videos um that were like played
1:08:45
↗
for the school like about recycling
1:08:47
↗
during lunch or using reusable water
1:08:50
↗
bottles at the stations. And I'm I'm
1:08:55
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94% sure that Isaqua High School Isqua
1:09:00
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High School also has a green team club.
1:09:02
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And maybe could like ask them see if
1:09:04
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they do something similar. And then
1:09:06
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maybe as a project for them, they could
1:09:08
↗
make a video just like discussing
1:09:10
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flooding regarding the BL and then
1:09:12
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bringing in the bomb cyclone, how people
1:09:14
↗
could be effective, what they could do,
1:09:16
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and then help bring awareness to kids at
1:09:18
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Isqua.
1:09:22
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And then there's Yeah. Oh, sorry. What
1:09:25
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was that? Green team, like a color
1:09:28
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green. Yeah, green. Um, and there's
1:09:30
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probably also some other clubs that talk
1:09:34
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about water. I think there's like a
1:09:35
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clean water club at Skyline. Um, there.
1:09:39
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Yeah, it it might be helpful to like
1:09:40
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look through the club list at Esqua. Um,
1:09:43
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see if they have anything like that you
1:09:44
↗
could reach out
1:09:47
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to. Okay. Yeah.
1:09:52
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with the flood plane maps. I don't know
1:09:55
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if any of our tribal communities locally
1:09:57
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are um if it's on tribal land or if
1:10:01
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there maybe may experience some
1:10:04
↗
downstream impacts with any of these
1:10:06
↗
decisions that are made for capital
1:10:08
↗
investments and things like that. So,
1:10:10
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I'm I'm saying it out loud, but I figure
1:10:12
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you're already thinking about that.
1:10:14
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We've reached out to the toule and the
1:10:17
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county. Oh, shoot. Oh god. Wow. I'm
1:10:21
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rubbish after four. Sorry. The
1:10:24
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Muckleshoot. Yes, we reached out to the
1:10:26
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Muckleshoot and the Snowquali tribes um
1:10:29
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and had conversations with them.
1:10:33
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Um their
1:10:36
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um Yes. Their their main reservations
1:10:40
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are aren't in the city of Isqua, but
1:10:42
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they may have ownership, but it and
1:10:45
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cultural resources along the river.
1:10:47
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Yeah.
1:10:48
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Yeah.
1:10:51
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Um, I haven't heard too many mentions of
1:10:55
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specific any like cultural community
1:10:59
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organizations and I don't know if our
1:11:01
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list has
1:11:05
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working with so much or we just to
1:11:07
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develop one still. We were going to do
1:11:11
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um a cultural resource
1:11:14
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um to look at the the state has a
1:11:19
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database of you know buildings that have
1:11:21
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been designated as well as uh overlays
1:11:25
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with other um
1:11:29
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um potential resource locations. So we
1:11:32
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were going to gather that information.
1:11:34
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But if there were cultural resource
1:11:36
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clubs or things like that um or like I
1:11:40
↗
meant more like community organizations
1:11:41
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that are um kind of formed around
1:11:45
↗
specific cultural groups. Oh yeah.
1:11:49
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The circle is primary
1:11:53
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the circle. this circle and they are
1:11:55
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really built around pulling different
1:11:58
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cultural groups together and providing
1:12:01
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them spaces and opportunities to
1:12:03
↗
interact and uh meet with their heritage
1:12:05
↗
groups that do celebrations share and
1:12:08
↗
celebrations. Um she hasn't started
1:12:11
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right here. Uh, and if you are trying to
1:12:16
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connect with some families that are
1:12:19
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linguistically diverse and who may also
1:12:22
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be visiting her um, her organization,
1:12:27
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that might be an opportunity. Um, you
1:12:30
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might be able to connect with maybe some
1:12:32
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families who are renting property who
1:12:35
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may be of different incomes to reach
1:12:39
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them and there's a lot of trust built
1:12:41
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with the circle. um a lot of our
1:12:44
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families. So that um I don't know she
1:12:47
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can tell maybe of
1:12:49
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some impacts on some houses um maybe of
1:12:54
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renters who are impacted or it's great.
1:12:57
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Thank you. Yeah.
1:13:01
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So I have a question relating to that
1:13:03
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because I was at first confused with
1:13:04
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your question because I know that Gilman
1:13:07
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village to me is a real thing and is
1:13:11
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that a group or organization because
1:13:13
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when there's planning that it's right
1:13:15
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there. So is that also a group that
1:13:18
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you're going to be looking at to see the
1:13:19
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impact and then the entire complex by
1:13:22
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the the post office that's right to see
1:13:26
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the last one. So are you looking at
1:13:28
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those company? Are you asking us maybe
1:13:30
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what those groups do or you have those
1:13:34
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kind of hits and you're planning on
1:13:36
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going and talking to those? Yeah. So,
1:13:38
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we're um at a very sort of interesting
1:13:41
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time in our project development in that
1:13:43
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we've started making an outreach plan,
1:13:47
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but we haven't yet come up with our full
1:13:49
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engagement strategy. And so that's why
1:13:52
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we thought this was a great opportune
1:13:54
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time to be gathering these strategies
1:13:56
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and
1:13:57
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um contacts.
1:14:00
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So right now
1:14:04
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um I we it the plan is in flux and
1:14:08
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that's why then I would recommend
1:14:10
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talking to someone at the Gilman village
1:14:12
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and see if they have a little group of
1:14:15
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the different businesses in Gilman
1:14:17
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village because
1:14:19
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historically they have been always
1:14:21
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impacted and then there are couple the
1:14:24
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Key Bank and couple other um restaurant
1:14:28
↗
location businesses right next to it.
1:14:30
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I've always I mean there was so much
1:14:32
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water just a couple months ago in Ma and
1:14:38
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Key Bank just a couple months ago for
1:14:41
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that.
1:14:45
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In terms of other community
1:14:47
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organizations, I feel like the city has
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a list right as part of the
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communications toolkit. Yep. I was going
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to say our enga communications team has
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an engagement toolkit that lists a
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number of key organizations to engage
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with. I I couldn't tell you because I'm
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not as familiar with the flood plane um
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which is that fall within the flood
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plane but I would imagine you pretty
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easily be able to tell. Okay. Yeah.
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Great. We will add those to our list
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when we send you our list. Yeah. so that
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you know what we know already. Capture
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from us but I mean yeah it just it seems
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like you know not everything is online
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essentially there data isn't perfect and
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there's just community groups that are
1:15:30
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informal or um you know things that
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you're not going to find online and that
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need to know if has to be generated
1:15:39
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through conversations sort of thing. So,
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um, yeah, you might just want to throw
1:15:46
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in broad club, too. I mean, I'm biased.
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I think if Alan and
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you department health department
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disparity map. Yes. Yeah.
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Pretty high like number eight, I
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believe. For which factor?
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Yeah, the overall disparity index. Okay.
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So, I have a question. Um, you said, you
1:16:21
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know, you develop models, right? And
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then there's this whole question of the
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river changing as well for various
1:16:29
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reasons. So, how frequently do we do
1:16:32
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these assessments? Because those models
1:16:34
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can change. Yeah. And uh it seems this
1:16:37
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is a lot of work to develop those models
1:16:40
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right and mapping of both the technical
1:16:44
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part of the river and the social
1:16:47
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economic part of people has
1:16:51
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to be there. So how frequently are we
1:16:55
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kind of be able to do these kind of
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assessments?
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This is the first one for the capital
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investment strategy for Isiqua Creek.
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This is also the first channel migration
1:17:07
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zone study for Esaqua Creek that's being
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done now. I believe 1990 was the prior
1:17:13
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flood study. Yes. So it's been a while
1:17:14
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since we
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Yeah. And what triggers that? I'm not
1:17:19
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entirely sure when we decide to usually
1:17:22
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jurisdiction needs to take it on. Yeah.
1:17:25
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It's time for a new study that you think
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there's some changes in the system
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whether
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it's increased precipitation patterns
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and all that impacts that too. So yeah,
1:17:35
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the county took it on this time. I I'm
1:17:38
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not sure what drove that decision, but I
1:17:40
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mean it is it's been a while. Yeah.
1:17:43
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Well,
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unfortunately the process of getting
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those maps done and
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adopted like the ones for the White
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River are from the 80s. it it's
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it's it takes a long time.
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Um, so lots of communities and I I'm not
1:18:02
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sure if this is one of them adopts in
1:18:04
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our local called best available
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science and that doesn't necessarily
1:18:11
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provide the outreach and communication
1:18:13
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and insurance benefits of having an
1:18:16
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adopted firm map but it does mean that
1:18:18
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new development does look at what is
1:18:21
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current and recent. And so yes, you
1:18:24
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actually every like that's a good point
1:18:26
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that we flood
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codes mitigation code. You have to
1:18:32
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mitigate impacts. Anytime there's a time
1:18:33
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of new development, they've got to
1:18:35
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actually do a flood plane analysis and
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look at what impacts are to their
1:18:38
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facility where they're building a flood
1:18:41
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plane and that that triggers remapping
1:18:44
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of a section of the creek called the
1:18:46
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conditional map provision. and and that
1:18:49
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will
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effectively look at what what that
1:18:53
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within that defined area then you in the
1:18:55
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case of Mr. like the many of these small
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little studies almost that were flood
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maps that were done have been done for
1:19:01
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various developments. So, so it's kind
1:19:04
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of peace meal all along as this study is
1:19:07
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going to finally kind of
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bring but bringing more hydraology
1:19:12
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bringing current hydraology and you know
1:19:16
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flow event or you know hydra he's
1:19:18
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looking at climate change and all that.
1:19:20
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So now it's going to be very
1:19:21
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comprehensive map. They're surveying the
1:19:24
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channels, you know, and so it's really
1:19:26
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detailed mapping that we're do. Yeah.
1:19:29
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And then in within the city, it's all
1:19:31
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going to have the quality to allow us to
1:19:35
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do the deep flow mapping, which is a
1:19:38
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higher quality than
1:19:42
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um what's minimally required for a FEMA
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map. Um so really has been a is going to
1:19:50
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be a great foundation for us to be
1:19:52
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working from.
1:19:55
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Um I don't know when the next
1:19:58
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opportunity I your question about how
1:20:00
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frequently not very frequently at all
1:20:02
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this is a great step but I was just
1:20:04
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wondering because things are changing so
1:20:06
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fast these days and demography is
1:20:09
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changing climate is changing so I was
1:20:12
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just kind of wondering because of that.
1:20:15
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Uh but if we have a a good map system
1:20:19
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somewhere, then it's kind of easy to
1:20:21
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build on from there if things if we know
1:20:25
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things change. Yeah. And one of the
1:20:27
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things I'm reaching out and working with
1:20:29
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Jared on right now is uh gathering city
1:20:32
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data for um a hazardous assessment which
1:20:36
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looks at the um depth of flood waters
1:20:40
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and the potential losses. And so really
1:20:42
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allows us to get very um a great a a it
1:20:47
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gives us one another piece of the pie
1:20:49
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and it gives it will give us that piece
1:20:52
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of the pie in a way that we can compare
1:20:54
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with unincorporated King County which is
1:20:57
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very important because our study area is
1:20:59
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both but we want to work where there's
1:21:02
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the most risk and so our ability to
1:21:06
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match the types of mapping and assets
1:21:08
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between King County and Isqua is very
1:21:10
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important.
1:21:11
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so that we can compare and say these
1:21:14
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will provide the best benefits for
1:21:16
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people
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um when we're looking at options.
1:21:22
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Well, I'm thinking about like related to
1:21:25
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this if um like fish passage and issues
1:21:29
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like that and
1:21:31
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cocon, you know, priority for the the
1:21:34
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fish hatch salmon hatchery. And so how
1:21:37
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how does that does that is that part of
1:21:40
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your engagement plan or thinking about
1:21:42
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how to balance those priorities?
1:21:45
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Yeah. So can I just add on to her
1:21:48
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question is also you know um when when
1:21:53
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we come to resource distribution kind of
1:21:55
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thing how are we then prioritizing
1:21:58
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between things like that and then maybe
1:22:02
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uh you know just the the more vulnerable
1:22:05
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population maybe some areas require
1:22:08
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uh more input in terms of um technical
1:22:12
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versus so how are those decisions being
1:22:16
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made. Yeah. Yeah.
1:22:19
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Um Okay. So,
1:22:22
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um we will be looking at vulnerability
1:22:25
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and this is a a growth area for our
1:22:28
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these types of assessments. So, we will
1:22:30
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absolutely be looking um and
1:22:33
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prioritizing those who are most
1:22:36
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vulnerable to be experiencing blood
1:22:38
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impact. And like I said with
1:22:41
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multibenefit, blood is first.
1:22:44
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So this money that King County taxpayers
1:22:47
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approved is primarily for the purpose of
1:22:50
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flood risk reduction. So we will be
1:22:51
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looking at that and looking to uh
1:22:54
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alleviate those impacts in the most
1:22:59
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um equitable
1:23:02
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um you know it's always a way it's not
1:23:07
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infinite. Um so that's first
1:23:12
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then we will layer in the other
1:23:15
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multi-benefits and um ISO has a very
1:23:19
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unique
1:23:20
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situation with the hatchery and where to
1:23:24
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provide
1:23:26
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um benefits with fish that may
1:23:30
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not be upstream of the hatchery. And so
1:23:34
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there's a lot of very nuanced
1:23:36
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considerations in Isiqua related to fish
1:23:38
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in particular. Um, and we're not looking
1:23:42
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to solve those
1:23:43
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considerations. We just recognize that
1:23:46
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putting rock in the river is not what
1:23:47
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people like and it's not what fish like.
1:23:51
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And um,
1:23:53
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so
1:23:54
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we will try to be looking at where those
1:23:58
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impacts can be avoided if we do need to
1:24:01
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repair. um a lot of things. We just
1:24:04
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completed a repair from the 2020 storms
1:24:06
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along Isqua Hobart Road. Um that uh
1:24:10
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incorporates a lot of more wood into the
1:24:13
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design. Um so we're certainly looking to
1:24:18
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of course meet our permanent
1:24:19
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obligations, but above that provide
1:24:22
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really good habitat benefit. Um but
1:24:27
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blood is first and addressing the most
1:24:29
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vulnerable risks, populations and the
1:24:32
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risks is our our northstar.
1:24:36
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Just a quick time check. Yeah. Also just
1:24:39
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a quick time check. So if you have a
1:24:41
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question or you have a you have
1:24:43
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something to answer with the questions
1:24:45
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that they presented
1:24:47
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um just want to invite you to you know
1:24:50
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raise your hand and let yourself be
1:24:52
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known. Um, plenty of time also if you
1:24:54
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want to ask like and I'm sure these two
1:24:56
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would stick around to answer other flood
1:24:58
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plane questions, but I want to make sure
1:24:59
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they get out of tonight what they came
1:25:02
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to get as well. So, just a quick time
1:25:05
↗
check on that.
1:25:08
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I just sort of quickly mentioned you
1:25:10
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mentioned something about insurance and
1:25:11
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I think for those skeptics out there who
1:25:13
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might be coming to your listening
1:25:15
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sessions or but I think providing very
1:25:18
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clear explanation as to what data you're
1:25:21
↗
collecting and what you're going to do
1:25:23
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with that data and is this being used or
1:25:26
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will it be used or is there some kind of
1:25:29
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like after you said insurance I was like
1:25:32
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hey is someone trying to build some
1:25:33
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property around here is there some other
1:25:36
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kind of this is my distrust coming out
1:25:39
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or is there some kind of high number of
1:25:41
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insurance claims that have been going
1:25:43
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out in the city of Isqua? And is this
1:25:46
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potentially going to impact the ability
1:25:48
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for us to get insurance for some of our
1:25:51
↗
properties and for some of our more
1:25:53
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vulnerable houses and people because we
1:25:56
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do have a lot of people who own property
1:25:58
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for a long time in Isa. I think making
1:26:00
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sure that they are clearly getting that
1:26:02
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message because at first you want to
1:26:04
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lean in with full trust like oh you're
1:26:06
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doing a study science yay love it and
1:26:09
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then it's like wait what are you going
1:26:10
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to do with this data and how is this
1:26:12
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negative
1:26:13
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so yes
1:26:16
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um a couple a couple of things with that
1:26:20
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we have we
1:26:22
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have the flood insurance and where there
1:26:25
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have been historic claims there are
1:26:27
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multiple safeguards and in fact right
1:26:29
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Now I'm seeking to
1:26:32
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um obtain access to that data and the
1:26:36
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the people at FEMA have been let go. So
1:26:39
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I
1:26:40
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don't I'm going to still seek that data
1:26:43
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because it's important but I can't even
1:26:47
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provide it to you like that there there
1:26:50
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are rules set in place related to uh
1:26:53
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especially that that level of data. The
1:26:56
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other part that I might say is that King
1:26:59
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County in general um is um there's a
1:27:04
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thing called the community rating
1:27:05
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system. Um and everybody in King County
1:27:09
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receives a 40% discount on their flood
1:27:11
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rate insurance and that is because of
1:27:14
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the mitigation actions that our group
1:27:16
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does. The flood warning center gets us
1:27:19
↗
points. Um us doing home elevations gets
1:27:22
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us points. us knowing where the
1:27:25
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repetitive loss properties are and
1:27:26
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mitigating those either through raising
1:27:28
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them or buying them out or moving them
1:27:31
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back. Our channel migration zone
1:27:34
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studies, all those things provide an
1:27:37
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enhanced level of protection than what
1:27:40
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is minimally required by the federal
1:27:42
↗
government. And because of that,
1:27:44
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everybody in King County who buys flood
1:27:46
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insurance from FEMA gets a 40% discount.
1:27:49
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And so the the I don't know that that
1:27:54
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answers your question, but I I feel like
1:27:56
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I'm not asking the question. I'm just
1:27:58
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really important to share with people
1:28:01
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you're talking to, especially people who
1:28:03
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are worried about their property value
1:28:05
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and potential growth of this area and
1:28:09
↗
how that might negatively impact their
1:28:10
↗
property value, their homes, this area.
1:28:13
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So I don't think it's about me wanting
1:28:15
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to know the information. towards being
1:28:18
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aware that this is information you
1:28:19
↗
should be ready to share clearly to or
1:28:23
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at least acknowledge that we can't
1:28:25
↗
predict the ramifications of every
1:28:26
↗
single thing. Yeah. I mean we're not
1:28:29
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developing develop zoning code or
1:28:32
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anything like that but yeah
1:28:34
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creating the connection between the
1:28:36
↗
information we're collecting what
1:28:37
↗
impacts might have like that
1:28:39
↗
potentially.
1:28:42
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Yeah. So the county actually has the
1:28:45
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second
1:28:46
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best score in the country in terms of
1:28:50
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CRS. What are we at? It's eight or
1:28:53
↗
seven. We're at two.
1:28:55
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Your jurisdiction or anything that's
1:28:57
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that's better is in Sacramento. Yeah,
1:29:00
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there's only one CRS1 community and
1:29:03
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there are only three CRS2 communities in
1:29:05
↗
the state of Washington. So
1:29:09
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um it's a it's a classification that we
1:29:12
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get audited on. We seek to maintain it
1:29:14
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to provide that benefit through doing
1:29:16
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these actions
1:29:18
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um
1:29:20
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and seeking back back can piggy back on
1:29:22
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that because we we adopt the same things
1:29:26
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policies and things that the does
1:29:28
↗
credit. So we're trying to also help
1:29:31
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improve our score. Yeah. And get better
1:29:33
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and better. Yeah. That's something great
1:29:35
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to share. Yes.
1:29:37
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Yeah, we're doing our best.
1:29:45
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Well, um I don't want to wrap it up, but
1:29:49
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yeah. So, I think any last questions or
1:29:53
↗
comments for um Alexander or Natalie?
1:30:00
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Okay. Well, thank you very much for uh
1:30:03
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presenting and allowing this uh
1:30:06
↗
conversation and discussion. Um I think
1:30:09
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if folks have any other followups um I
1:30:12
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think you're welcome. Yeah. Okay. Great.
1:30:17
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Well, thank you. Yeah, I don't want to
1:30:20
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speak out of turn, but really you are
1:30:22
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all volunteers and the fact that you are
1:30:24
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all here to help listen and provide your
1:30:28
↗
input is so so meaningful. So, thank you
1:30:31
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all so much for donating your time and
1:30:34
↗
um your space to to listen to us
1:30:36
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tonight. Thank you. Thank you.
1:30:40
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All right.
1:30:41
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Yeah. And I guess as we wind down our
1:30:44
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joint meeting, um the last agenda item
1:30:47
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is the closing thought, which again is
1:30:49
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an equity board, uh it's part of our
1:30:52
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standard uh meeting agenda. And we just
1:30:54
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like to wrap up the meeting with like a
1:30:55
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quick one or two word kind of checkout
1:30:58
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question about how are you leaving the
1:30:59
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meeting with? And um I think yeah if
1:31:03
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someone would get us started and popcorn
1:31:06
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out to someone
1:31:07
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else to
1:31:11
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start I can handle it.
1:31:19
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I was going to say impressed at all the
1:31:21
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work you all are doing on studying this
1:31:24
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in this area. Happy also receiving love
1:31:29
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impressed by the school.
1:31:32
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So second in the country
1:31:38
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um I'm feeling just a lot of gratitude
1:31:43
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um of being in community with you here
1:31:45
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tonight. So thank you.
1:31:48
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Yeah. Grateful for your work and lot of
1:31:51
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thoughts.
1:31:55
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deeply reflective is what I'm going to
1:31:57
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say. Yeah. Um excited that the city's
1:31:59
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focusing on things like these and uh
1:32:02
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focusing on different perspectives.
1:32:05
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Gosh. Um I'm feeling very educated and I
1:32:08
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learned a new word. I wrote it down.
1:32:10
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Reetments. So look into that. Super
1:32:13
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interesting. I kind of quit Google. Very
1:32:15
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interesting.
1:32:18
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Oh, just board member. Yeah, I agree.
1:32:22
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The data says it's wonderful that
1:32:24
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there's so many young people here to
1:32:25
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find engaged. So that's great.
1:32:29
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Feel very educated like she she said I'm
1:32:32
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very impressed with all the work that's
1:32:34
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going on. Yeah, I'm also impressed and
1:32:37
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also intrigued. You know, I really want
1:32:39
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to look into this project and I
1:32:41
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definitely know a lot of businesses but
1:32:42
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not their names.
1:32:44
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So look into it. Yeah, it'd be great.
1:32:49
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Yeah. Informed. feel super warm.
1:32:53
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Yeah, I feel like I need to get on a
1:32:55
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board like this in my
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community. Evening activity.
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So, going up to the teams. Uh Keith.
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Yeah, just uh really interested in
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everything. Um feel like it really piqu
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my curiosity. I'm looking forward to
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engaging with some of the info from uh
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King County's flood plane management
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online and yeah, doing a little more
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reading after this.
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Okay Tom.
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Uh, well, as someone who lives along
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Aqua Creek and has witnessed many
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hundred-year floods in my short
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life that I'm I'm there there's hope.
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There's hope that us humans may figure
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out a way to live on planet Earth and do
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better managing the resources of our
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creeks and streams and and all the
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concern. So, thank you for your effort
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and I'm I'm encouraged to see actions
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like this going on. Thank you.
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Canal.
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Yeah, I'd say like a mix of like
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informed and gratitude. I learned a lot
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today of stuff that I was never exposed
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to ever before. So, I appreciate that
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and gratitude because like thanks for
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the 40% discount.
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[Laughter]
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Stacy,
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yeah, thank you. I think I believe this
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is the first joint meeting of the
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environmental board and equity board.
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So, I really appreciate the two boards
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coming together and being able to have
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this conversation and look forward to
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identifying future topics where we can
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work together.
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Great. Thanks. Did we cover everyone
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with the closing? Okay, great. And with
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that, I think um I adjourn this joint
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equity and environmental board meeting.
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Um the next meeting of the equity board
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is on May 7th. I did not look up on the
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environmental board, but
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next week. Okay, there you go. Okay,
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well, thank you all and have a good
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evening. Really appreciated the
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conversation tonight.
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