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Wednesday, May 7, 2025

6:00 PM · 1h 27m
Topic tracked across meetings:
Equity and the City's Boards and Commissions - Evans Consulting Group Presentation (D) 2/3
Section
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
3a
Minutes of March 5, 2025 Meeting and April 2, 2025 Meeting
packet pp.3–8
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 03-05-25 Equity Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Equity Board 6:00 PM Steelhead Room, 235 1st Ave. March 5, 2025 MINUTES SE, Issaquah
4. CHAIR REPORT
4a
Opening Question
10 min · Priti Mody-Pan, Equity Board Chair
5. STAFF REPORT
5a
Updates Since March 2025 Meeting
5 min · Dale Markey-Crimp, Assistant to the City Administrator
6. AGENDA ITEMS
6a
Equity and the City's Board and Commissions - Evans Consulting Group Presentation
45 min · Gillian Straub, Management Analyst · packet pp.9–40
Topics: Equity
Staff report:
Receive Equity Board feedback on the draft recommendations for diversity, equity and inclusion in Issaquah’s advisory boards and commissions
7. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
7a
Equity Board Interim Liaison
5 min · Gillian Straub, Management Analyst
Topics: Equity
0:03 Okay, I think we're ready to go. All
0:04 right, it is 6:07 and I call this May
0:09 7th meeting of the equity board to
0:11 order. And with that, uh we are doing uh
0:16 probably roll call. Roll call. Indeed.
0:19 Um so I'll for new members, I'll say
0:21 your name and you just say if you're
0:22 here and then for our excused absences,
0:25 I'll let us know who's excused at the
0:26 end. Um, and then if I pronounce your
0:29 name incorrectly, just correct me. So,
0:31 um, starting with folks in the room,
0:33 Oscar Montano here. Varnaoka here. Quan
0:37 Palmer here. Modi Pan here. Caric Kasha
0:41 here. Leslie Millinder Irwin is
0:43 currently absent. Lorna Gilmore here.
0:45 Kelly has an excused absence. Oh, Chris
0:48 Zade here. And Nishaire
0:52 here. Heather Young's
0:55 here. And Kunal, last but certainly not
0:59 least. Excellent. We have quorum and we
1:02 can proceed. Great. Okay, then I think
1:04 we are ready for public comment. And uh
1:07 first up we have Deputy Council
1:09 President D. Michelle.
1:11 Thank you so much. Um and I'll try. Is
1:14 there a five minute limit on public
1:16 comment?
1:18 Feel
1:19 free. I'll do my best. So, um, I am Barb
1:23 Dashelle, the deputy council president,
1:25 and this is the time of the year that
1:27 the council and the mayor come out to
1:29 our boards and commissions to say thank
1:32 you to the people who have already
1:33 served and say welcome to the new
1:35 members. So, can I just ask who who's
1:38 new to the equity board this time? Well,
1:41 welcome and there and I see you online
1:44 as well. So, welcome. uh we so
1:47 appreciate uh your being willing to step
1:50 up and uh be involved in your community
1:53 and we hope this is a really good
1:55 experience for you and I think it says
1:58 something this wonderful turnout uh of
2:00 the board. So when I first came in the
2:02 room I said this is a really important
2:04 board and I didn't mean that uh you know
2:08 uh to be an exaggeration. This really is
2:10 a very important board. And there's a
2:12 couple of things I want to mention that
2:15 you've done and then a little bit of a
2:16 preview of what I think is coming down
2:18 the pike. So, first of all, I want to
2:20 talk about the equity calendar. We are
2:23 so proud. We brave about that all the
2:25 time. I think we're now into the third
2:27 year of using that calendar and it is
2:30 proving to be absolutely wonderful. um
2:33 the way that we were able to acknowledge
2:35 so many different holidays and
2:37 celebrations and maintain going forward
2:40 as a community. And so we've proved a
2:43 lot of people said it couldn't be done.
2:44 We've proved that it can be done. And
2:46 that was the work that this board did so
2:49 well and so thoughtfully that it has
2:52 been a beautiful thing for us. And the
2:55 other thing I just want to say is that
2:57 over the past couple of years, I've
2:59 really noticed that people are coming
3:01 more and more to the equity board to get
3:03 the equity lens. And that is exactly
3:06 what the council lease initiated this
3:08 group. We wanted to be sure that
3:10 everything we did went through an equity
3:12 lens. And I'm seeing that that that is
3:16 developing over time and people are
3:18 coming to you more and more. that means
3:20 they respect your opinions and also that
3:22 that equity lens is becoming just part
3:25 of our culture. Um and that's so
3:28 important. So um then this morning uh
3:32 Mayor Paulie and I held a convening of
3:37 17 nonprofits
3:39 uh in the area and these are nonprofits
3:41 that provide human services to our
3:44 community. And as you might imagine, it
3:47 was pretty heavy listening. Um, people
3:50 are losing grants. Um, they're not being
3:53 reimbursed for expenses that they've
3:54 already done. Uh, they're seeing a much
3:57 higher demand and lower resources. And
4:00 so, it was a pretty heavy thing. And so
4:03 as we're going forward into this next
4:05 year, this group, I think, is going to
4:08 be instrumental in making sure that
4:10 these tough decisions that we're facing,
4:12 this really hard time that's coming down
4:14 the pike, uh, Mayor Paulie described it
4:17 as a human services uh, crisis is coming
4:20 down the pike at us. And so I don't want
4:23 to be a downer, but I mean, this is the
4:25 reality what is happening around us. And
4:28 I see this group as just being
4:30 instrumental in being sure that the
4:32 council, the mayor, all of us are
4:35 looking at the decisions that we have to
4:36 make and making sure that they are done
4:38 equitably and fairly. So I uh I can't
4:43 thank you enough for the um
4:46 thoughtfulness and the passion that you
4:48 bring to to this board and I wish you
4:51 well and again welcome to the new
4:53 people. Thank you for stepping up. Um
4:56 thank you. I think that's what I'm going
4:59 to say. Can you think of anything else I
5:01 need to add? No, that was excellent. Oh,
5:04 good. I looked to Dale for
5:07 All right. So, I do not want to disrupt
5:10 this meeting. Um, so I'm going to head
5:12 out, but again, thank you so much for
5:14 everything you do. Thanks. Thank you.
5:17 Thank you.
5:19 Hello. Nice to see you. Okay. And I
5:22 think up next we have our friends from
5:24 the Bahigh with some public comments.
5:27 Thank you very much. There is a good
5:30 place for me to I think take that corner
5:32 that corner seat. Yeah. Pull up.
5:39 So yeah, for those that may not know,
5:42 we've been doing this community building
5:44 social which is even though it's done is
5:48 hosted by the Bahigh communities, but it
5:50 is for everyone. It is not for just the
5:53 Bahigh. It's for everyone. And this time
5:57 it's going to be a little bit different.
5:59 Usually we invite um someone who has
6:01 been very active in the in the path of
6:04 service to the community. Um this time
6:08 we decided to have a conversation and
6:11 the conversation is about the place of
6:15 spirituality in community
6:17 building
6:19 and you know spirituality is defined in
6:23 many ways and there are many quote
6:26 unquote sources of
6:28 spirituality. Some people their yoga
6:31 exercise is their um source of
6:35 spirituality or the way they focus on
6:38 their breath or the way they walk in the
6:41 forest or the classical religious um
6:45 form of spirituality in the in a church
6:50 in a synagogue mosque or a temple. But
6:53 regardless of where we find that and
6:57 where we draw from that spirituality,
7:00 the the thing that we want to explore
7:03 all of us together is does it have a
7:07 place
7:09 in community building? I mean creating
7:12 connection among people. Mhm. So this is
7:18 so it's not going to have a speaker,
7:20 it's going to have two facilitators and
7:23 hopefully everyone can
7:27 um give us the benefit of their thought
7:29 and their feelings.
7:32 May I have some of those invitations
7:36 hopefully pass it around?
7:39 Yes. I don't know how many I need, but
7:43 I would say give us as many as you're
7:45 willing to give. Oh, yes. And feel free
7:47 to take extras and share them with.
7:52 Yeah. So, just this is a chance for
7:56 everybody to talk with each other like
7:58 it's just a sharing and learning from
8:00 each other about something that's
8:02 probably near and dear to everybody in
8:04 their own personal their own way. But we
8:07 all kind of feel that it does have it
8:10 does spirituality has a role. It
8:12 contributes in some mystical some you
8:15 know any number of ways to our wanting
8:17 to help other people community building
8:19 and service and stuff like that. So it's
8:22 a really I think going to be a really
8:23 exciting kind of creative conversation
8:26 followed by some food and dinner
8:28 together like we do at these community
8:30 building sessions. So share with others
8:31 too and invite anybody you'd like.
8:33 everybody and everybody who have been
8:34 speakers in the past like from the
8:36 garage from the food bank from what the
8:39 network and Barbie Michelle has been
8:41 there two or three times I know she'll
8:43 probably be there and they'll all bring
8:45 everybody each of you bring your
8:46 thoughts and ideas about this.
8:50 Awesome. Thank you. Thank you both.
8:55 Okay, so next up just to give you all a
8:58 preview of what's happening. So, we're
8:59 going through our agenda. And so, the
9:02 next item is approval of minutes. And
9:03 then after that, we'll hold a little bit
9:05 of time for some introductions uh for
9:07 everyone as part of our get to know you
9:10 in terms of the opening question. So, uh
9:13 just one moment to get through some of
9:14 the other process steps of the agenda.
9:17 Um and so, the next item is approval of
9:20 minutes. And uh we have two sets of
9:22 minutes in the packet. And so, the first
9:26 set was from our March meeting. Second
9:28 set is from our uh April meeting which
9:30 was a joint meeting with the
9:32 environmental board. So I'll um maybe
9:36 give you a couple of minutes to do a
9:38 scan and then after that I'd like a a
9:41 call for um approving the minutes and
9:44 then we can have a brief discussion if
9:46 anyone has any changes, questions or uh
9:51 addendums
9:53 today. Okay.
10:46 All right. And when someone is ready,
10:49 um, could you make a motion to approve?
10:53 I'll make a motion. Okay. And we need a
10:57 second and put it in. Okay. Anyone
10:59 seconding? We'll second. Okay. And then
11:03 um do folks have any uh questions,
11:05 comments, or edits to make to uh let's
11:09 start with the merch, I guess. Yeah.
11:16 All right. Any changes or
11:19 edits? All right. Then I think we can
11:21 consider those approved. Okay. And could
11:24 I get a motion to approve the April
11:27 meeting minutes?
11:32 Okay. And then a second. Second. A
11:34 second. Okay. Any uh changes, addendums,
11:38 or corrections?
11:42 There's one tiny
11:44 typo. There's I usually I rely upon you
11:47 to find all my typos. There's one tiny
11:49 typo in um item B under regular
11:52 business. Um the word projects in the
11:56 first line should be presenters.
11:58 I will make that tiny edit. Thank you,
12:02 Dale. Okay. And not hearing any uh
12:06 changes or discussion needed, I think we
12:08 can consider the April minutes
12:11 approved. All right. So, okay. Next up
12:15 on our agenda is uh the chair report and
12:18 opening question. And um just for
12:22 context and for our new members, we do
12:25 um we have an opening question. It's
12:27 been a new pract well no longer new but
12:30 a practice that the equity board started
12:31 probably a couple of years ago and I
12:34 think you know I like to think it's for
12:36 two reasons. One is that I think in
12:39 order to have uh like candid
12:41 conversations and open dialogue. It's
12:44 nice that we take a few minutes at the
12:46 start of meetings to get to know each
12:48 other. And then the second reason for
12:50 this is to get everyone's voice into
12:52 them. Um I think you know once we have
12:54 you know once someone speaks up in the
12:56 meeting it's easier for them to speak up
12:58 again and again and again. So that those
13:00 are the two reasons and so with that I
13:03 think as part by way of introduction and
13:05 us getting to know each other.
13:07 Um, so I have like two related prompts.
13:11 And so the two prompts are uh what
13:15 compelled you to apply to the equity
13:17 board? And for maybe our continuing
13:20 members if that's been a while um what
13:23 continues to keep you engaged and want
13:25 to be on the equity board. And so um
13:29 yeah, and we usually start off someone
13:30 goes first and then just popcorns it to
13:32 the next person until everyone's gone.
13:35 And so, um, if you can all, you know,
13:38 say your name, your preferred pronouns,
13:40 and the response to the prompts, and
13:43 we'll, uh, take a few minutes to get
13:45 cover everyone in the room. So, who
13:47 would like to go first? Awesome.
13:50 Everyone, my name is Boston. I'm a
13:52 junior high school and I'm one of the
13:55 youth representatives for this board.
13:56 And I'll just answer both questions. Um,
13:59 so I was first interested in the equity
14:02 board because I'm also on the school
14:03 youth advisory board and I heard about
14:05 the opportunity through that and thought
14:08 it sounded interesting and another way I
14:10 can make an
14:11 impact. Um, and then since then one of
14:14 the main things that's appeals me about
14:17 this board is just like the
14:19 collaboration we have with other boards
14:21 and um, like we and the knowledge I've
14:25 gained from that. And so like every
14:27 meeting I'm learning something cool
14:29 about like cyber security or like
14:32 national natural disasters cool stuff
14:35 like that. And I think for the new
14:38 members you're going to find that
14:39 interesting as
14:42 well. Uh you want to go next? Uh sure.
14:45 Yeah. Thanks. Um I think I've been on
14:48 the board for I think about a year now
14:50 almost two years now.
14:52 uh joined the equity board because I was
14:55 interested in just understanding a bit
14:57 more about how um sort of listening to
15:01 various different perspectives can be
15:03 brought into action in in our community
15:06 and still the equity board. I'm very
15:09 much interested in this work because I'm
15:11 discovering just so many more layers to
15:13 it and how it's at the core of so much
15:15 of what we do. Um
15:19 yeah, on to Oscar. Hi, I am Oscar
15:23 Montano, a new member. I work at
15:26 Costco's corporate office as an ecom
15:29 depot operation supervisor.
15:32 Uh what compelled me to join the board
15:34 was
15:36 um just the wanting to give a new a
15:40 different perspective at least my
15:42 perspective
15:43 um being coming from a Hispanic
15:47 background.
15:49 um being raised in Southern California
15:51 where the Hispanics have the majority
15:53 and then moving up to Washington like
15:56 four years ago
15:59 and suddenly becoming more of a
16:01 minority. So just um hoping to um give
16:06 as much feedback as I can from the
16:08 Hispanic point of view.
16:14 Pass it to someone else. Yeah, Chris.
16:16 Yeah. So, hi everyone. new board member
16:18 also Chris Zed or Christopher but I go
16:21 by Chris. Um I also work at Costco
16:24 corporate. I work in change management
16:26 which is part of HR focused on people's
16:29 side of change. So always had a passion
16:33 for helping people um even at work and
16:36 grew up in Lebanon then moved to
16:38 California, Southern California for
16:40 about six years before moving up here
16:43 and um I've always done stuff that's
16:46 part of the community. however that
16:48 looks. Um, and more recently with
16:50 Costco, I was working um on the DEI
16:53 initiatives and I kind of wanted to be
16:56 more involved in the community aspect of
16:58 it too, which is what prompted me to um
17:01 kind of apply to join here because I was
17:03 like, you could do so much and I could
17:05 learn so much at the same time. So, that
17:07 was kind of what brought me here. Um,
17:10 yeah. Awesome. Multi. Okay. um Priy Modi
17:13 Pan. I use she her pronouns and um as I
17:17 was saying to some folks in the room
17:18 that I'm one of the the few remaining um
17:22 folks who have been part of the the
17:25 beginning of the equity board but um
17:27 which was
17:28 2021 and um I'll just say what continues
17:32 to keep me engaged especially now is
17:34 that I feel at the federal level things
17:36 are not looking very positive in terms
17:40 of making progress on equity social
17:43 justice, diversity, inclusion, you know,
17:46 just all of those things. And so I think
17:48 it's so important for the role of uh
17:51 community and local governments to hold
17:53 down the fort so we don't backslide. And
17:57 um I just think it's important that we
17:59 don't lose sight of those issues right
18:01 now.
18:04 You la she her pronouns like Piti. I'm
18:09 also a part of the original group. Uh
18:12 what brought me in was like as Chris
18:16 said in his work, he saw the need for
18:20 equity and has been having to work in
18:21 that and wanted to expand that. And in
18:24 my work as a teacher working in equity
18:28 in my district, I saw that the students
18:31 were saying, "Thank you for doing this
18:32 work for our students in a school
18:35 community, but what about outside? Who's
18:38 helping us in the community when people
18:40 are calling us names? when we are
18:42 feeling um the racism in stores in in
18:47 our neighborhoods. And that led me to
18:50 work with a community group that was
18:51 having conversations about racism, about
18:54 inequities, about hate, about prejudice.
18:58 And when this group was formed, I was
19:00 happy to join this group to support the
19:03 city in systemic ways to make changes to
19:06 support our community because it is you
19:09 have to go systemically. you just can't
19:11 make, you know, changes it doesn't. So,
19:15 making sure we're addressing root,
19:16 making sure that we have systems in
19:18 place to support the our community
19:21 members, all community members to lift
19:23 them up. And so, it's also making sure
19:26 people understand the difference between
19:28 equity versus equality. And that has
19:31 been one of the main things that I've
19:33 seen our our work do and helping people
19:35 understand
19:36 that. And so I've been proud of the work
19:39 with in this group and happy to continue
19:42 as long as I feel like I can make the
19:44 difference in this group with this
19:45 group. Thank you.
19:49 Uh yeah. Uh my name is Palmer. Uh she
19:52 her pronouns. Um similar to Lorna and
19:55 Chris. Um I've worked in HR for 10 years
19:58 and I've worked in public sector. I've
20:00 worked in tech sector. And I think that
20:03 something that really compels me first.
20:05 I really love living in Isla. That's
20:06 one. I love the community. Um I love my
20:09 neighbors. Um but when you work in an
20:12 organization, you can only make internal
20:15 impact. You can't make a lot of I think
20:17 a lot of people work in HR want to help
20:19 people want to be able to make changes
20:20 and assess you know uh unfortunately it
20:24 only stays within the organization. So I
20:26 was looking for something that would
20:27 impact externally with direct
20:29 communities. I want to do more I for a
20:31 long time I've wanted to do like
20:32 volunteer work or like some big impact
20:35 but I didn't know where to start and I
20:36 felt like this is a good spot just
20:37 because I have a lot of background in uh
20:39 DI stuff equity and you know um you know
20:43 also being a female minority in the
20:44 workplace kind have a lot of different
20:46 lens
20:49 um hi I'm Veronica um she her pronouns
20:52 I'm currently a freshman at UDub and I
20:54 think what's continuously engaging me on
20:57 this board is just the different amount
20:59 of topics that we can bring an equity
21:00 lens to. Um like from being on this
21:02 board for about like two years, I
21:04 learned there's equity lens to like
21:06 transportation all the way to like so
21:08 many different topics like um natural
21:10 disasters and all that stuff. Um which
21:12 has been really interesting to learn
21:13 about. Um and being a youth member, I
21:15 really wanted to bring a youth
21:16 perspective to this board that's filled
21:17 with adults, but I've also had the
21:19 opportunity to learn so much more from
21:21 all the other board members. So I'm
21:23 really happy to be on this board and the
21:25 vast amount of opportunities that it's
21:27 given. But
21:29 Um, so I'm not a board member. I'm
21:32 Jillian. Um, I'm not quite sure what
21:35 question I should Oh, well, maybe uh
21:38 maybe as someone who's about to
21:40 become for a short period of time. Oh,
21:43 yes. Talk about why that's exciting.
21:45 Yeah. Okay. So, hi everyone. I'm
21:47 Jillian. I'm a
21:50 manager. Um, and I'll be serving as your
21:54 board leazison while Dale is out for
21:56 summer mostly. Um, and I've served in
22:00 roles like that before, um, at different
22:02 cities that I've worked at, and I really
22:04 enjoyed working with community members
22:06 directly who are also really engaged in
22:08 the work of bettering their community.
22:09 Like that's why I got into public
22:11 service. Um, so it was exciting to work
22:13 with people who are also missiondriven
22:15 in that way.
22:17 Let's kick it to our two members online
22:19 and then I'll close us out. So maybe
22:22 Heather and then Nisha.
22:25 Hey guys. Yeah, despite what it says on
22:28 the screen. Yeah, I'm Heather Young's.
22:29 Um, live in the Isakqua community. I'm a
22:33 licensed mental health counselor, work a
22:35 lot with like trauma and OCD, and I have
22:37 a pretty diverse array of clients. So,
22:40 um, what brought me to the board
22:42 honestly was really wanting to kind of,
22:46 I guess, expand, um, the reach of being
22:49 able to promote like equity and
22:51 diversity in our community. And also
22:53 with the recent political climate, I
22:55 guess I felt driven to take action in a
22:59 healthfully fighty kind of
23:01 way.
23:03 So I'm excited to learn more about it.
23:07 Thanks Heather.
23:10 Hi everybody. I'm Nisha. Um I am she her
23:14 pronouns as well. I use she her
23:16 pronouns. Um, I wanted to join this
23:17 board
23:18 because in my career, I've I've
23:22 primarily um done work on behalf of
23:25 children. And I think that if you're
23:27 going to build a community with equity,
23:29 start at the bottom and work your way
23:31 up. And so I wanted to make sure that
23:35 I contributed to a community that's
23:38 working towards common goals, which I
23:39 think my goals are in line with those.
23:42 um and that we also consider the voices
23:44 of kids in in what we're doing to help
23:47 shape their views of social justice and
23:49 equity.
23:51 So that's why I joined the board. Thank
23:54 you. And then Dale, do you want to close
23:56 us out and then jump into the next? Yes.
23:58 Close us out and then we'll jump into
24:00 our regular business. Um Dale Marquy
24:02 Crimp. I use she her pronouns. I am the
24:04 assistant to the city administrator here
24:06 at the city of Isiqua and I've been the
24:08 board liaison for a little
24:11 gosh over two years now maybe maybe a
24:15 year and a half it's hard to tell time
24:16 is but a but a flat circle um uh and I
24:22 would say similar to Lorna I my
24:24 background is in K12 education I was a
24:26 middle school English teacher um
24:29 and through that experience became um
24:33 deeply convicted about the importance of
24:36 equity in all facets of our society and
24:40 and within all of our systems needing to
24:42 really rethink the structures um that
24:45 exist um to call out the barriers and
24:48 the harm that they're causing and to
24:50 think about how that we can rethink and
24:51 reimagine and transform those systems.
24:54 Um and so when I came to local
24:55 government, the opportunity was not
24:57 immediately here for me to to work with
25:00 this board. Uh but when the opportunity
25:01 arose for me to take over liaison role
25:04 for this particular board, I was
25:05 thrilled um to be able to to step into
25:09 that role and to get to work with this
25:10 group that I think is really pushing our
25:13 organization to think differently. and
25:15 as deputy council president shared has
25:18 been creating and collaborating on
25:20 really incredible tools for our staff
25:22 and for our community to really change
25:23 the way we do we provide service the way
25:26 we think about our service um and the
25:28 way we communicate and interact with
25:30 each other internally and externally at
25:32 the city. So just feeling lucky to be
25:37 here to the staff report.
25:40 Staff report will be quite brief. At our
25:42 last meeting, we had two presenters from
25:44 King County Flood Plane Management that
25:46 came and co and presented both to this
25:48 board and to the environmental board.
25:50 They were here with us. Um,
25:52 specifically, their ask of this group
25:54 was for I was for organizations,
25:57 individuals to reach out to about their
26:00 upcoming flood plane um, management
26:03 process and survey. Um, this group and
26:06 the environmental board shared a number
26:07 of organizations and individuals with
26:09 them. They literally just emailed me
26:11 today with their list. They're like,
26:13 "Here's who we're planning to reach out
26:15 to." So, I will send that out to the
26:16 whole board for you all to take a look
26:18 at. Um, and if there's anything you feel
26:20 like is missing from that group, just
26:23 email me back and we'll add that to
26:24 them. They also sent a very nice card in
26:26 the mail just thanking thanking you for
26:29 your time. Um, which I'll take a
26:31 screenshot of and send that out in the
26:33 email as well. So, that is the update
26:34 from our most recent meeting.
26:37 Thank you. And so next up on the agenda
26:40 is the Evans Consulting Group
26:42 presentation. And Jillian, would you
26:44 like to set it up? Yeah, absolutely. So
26:47 with us today, we have several members
26:50 from the Evans School of Public Policy.
26:52 Um, and we've contracted with them to
26:55 conduct an equity assessment of our
26:57 boards and commissions. So they're here
26:59 to present their preliminary findings.
27:01 Um, and I'll go into a little bit more
27:02 detail about some of the backstory to
27:04 this project. I also want to note that
27:06 we have Andrea Snider, deputy CB
27:08 administrator on the line who's been
27:10 quite involved in this work. Um, we can
27:12 provide context and answer questions as
27:13 needed as well. So, with that, um,
27:17 before we jump in, my team on the phone,
27:19 are you guys can you guys hear us? And
27:21 can we check and see if we can hear you?
27:24 I can hear. Yep. Yep. Testine, can you
27:27 hear our audio? Yes. Thank you. Okay,
27:30 great. And we're sharing one mic. Can
27:32 you hear all of us? Yes. Yes. Great. Can
27:34 you hear me as well? Oh, wow. Golden.
27:39 All right, that's some technology now.
27:41 Okay. Yeah, we're really broadening our
27:43 our tech tonight. Um, so with that, I'll
27:46 let Jillian jump in. Okay, so like I
27:49 mentioned, we're here to today sort of
27:51 need your feedback. Um,
27:56 okay. We're here today to receive your
27:58 feedback on the draft recommendations um
28:00 for diversity, equity, inclusion and
28:03 issu boards and commissions. This is
28:05 situated in a larger project as well.
28:08 This is just one portion or one topic
28:10 area that we know we need to explore um
28:12 and identify uh improvements to um so
28:16 they'll go into a little bit more about
28:17 what they did. Um and I can also situate
28:20 it in a larger project as well. But we
28:22 did want to preview here for you the
28:24 policy questions that we'll be asking
28:26 you. um so that you can consider these
28:28 as as they as they present their
28:30 recommendations. So, first, are there
28:32 any significant gaps that you see in the
28:35 recommendations? And second, we'd like
28:37 your help in prioritizing these actions
28:38 knowing that we can't do everything at
28:40 once. What's most urgent? What's some
28:42 lowhanging fruit? Um where do you think
28:45 administration should should dive in
28:47 once we move into the implementation
28:48 phases of this
28:51 plan? Okay. So, like I said, this is
28:53 situated in a larger project. So the
28:55 city of Isiqua has been engaged in
28:57 equity work in one way or another for
28:58 many years. Part of that work is the
29:00 creation of this board itself and like
29:03 council president or deputy council
29:04 president D. Michelle mentioned some of
29:06 the work with the uh religious and
29:08 cultural holidays calendar um the equity
29:11 framework um and other items like that.
29:13 So, there's been uh there's been motion
29:16 on this for a long time, but the
29:19 community, this board um and the
29:21 strategic plan update task force in 2024
29:24 um all noted the need for more strategic
29:26 action on this to help us all get
29:28 aligned with where we're going on
29:30 equity. So where we see the first stage
29:32 of this larger project being is some
29:34 goal setting with community members and
29:36 leadership to understand what is this
29:39 applause think where what does this
29:40 think equity is where we need to be. The
29:43 second stage of that is a gaps analysis
29:45 to understand here are our current
29:47 policies, practices, programs as a city.
29:50 How are we meeting that shared vision
29:51 that we've established and then creating
29:54 a plan um a way to implement it? Isa has
29:57 a lot of operational or functional plans
29:58 but we don't have one for equity. So
30:01 creating a road map for us to follow um
30:03 and track progress too. So that's uh
30:06 that's a short version of of what that
30:08 larger project is going to be. The work
30:11 with the Evans School focuses on one
30:13 portion of that with the uh boards and
30:15 commissions. We felt that this is a
30:16 place where it was pretty clear where
30:18 the city needs to go in terms of
30:20 representation so we could move forward
30:22 into that kind of gaps analysis and make
30:24 forward progress without waiting for
30:26 that larger uh that larger project which
30:29 is underway in 2025. Um so I can also
30:32 speak more to that if there are
30:33 questions about it. Um, but with that,
30:36 I'll hand it over to the Evans School
30:38 for the bulk of this this presentation.
30:40 Great. Thank you, Jillian. Thank you
30:42 all. We're really happy to be here. I'm
30:44 Sarah. You're going to hear from me as
30:46 well as from my colleagues on the phone.
30:48 Uh, just to set some quick expectations.
30:50 You're going to see a lot of information
30:51 on the slides. We're going to be talking
30:53 about a lot. There's even more that we
30:55 did in our research. So, there'll be
30:57 time for some questions and discussion
30:59 between se sections and we can go back
31:01 to any slides at the end. So I just ask
31:03 for your grace and patience because
31:05 we'll be getting through a lot in the
31:06 next, you know, 20 to 30 minutes. So as
31:10 Julian mentioned, we really focused in
31:12 very directly on the boards and
31:14 commissions and just do a little bit of
31:16 thinking about what equity might look
31:18 like in those spaces. So we focus really
31:21 specifically around things like
31:23 demographic composition. So who's on the
31:25 boards now and are those demographics
31:28 representative of the broader city of
31:30 Isiqua?
31:32 Recruitment. How do folks hear about
31:33 boards? Why do they join? Why don't they
31:36 join? Um retention. Once people are on
31:39 the boards, why do they stay for years?
31:41 Like preta, why might they not be able
31:43 to? What are their expectations while
31:45 they serve on this board? Uh lastly,
31:48 thinking about governance. So, how do
31:50 the boards operate? What mechanisms are
31:52 in place to ensure everyone's voices are
31:54 heard and valued? you know when and
31:57 where are equity cons when and where is
32:00 equity considered as part of the
32:02 recommendations for
32:04 example. So our methodology involved a
32:07 literature review some data analysis on
32:10 applicant demographics in comparison to
32:13 the census and using GIS data. We did a
32:16 whole slew of interviews including a
32:18 bunch with board and commission members,
32:20 some of you all here, as well as other
32:22 boards around Isiqua, some staff and
32:24 liaison from Isiqua, as well as some
32:26 staff from nine other jurisdictions to
32:29 get a sense a little bit of how other
32:30 cities might be thinking about this. We
32:32 did a bit of a gap analysis to find
32:34 areas where things were going really
32:36 well and areas where there might be
32:37 opportunities.
32:39 And then we've uh created some
32:41 recommendations primarily based on the
32:43 literature review, what we heard was
32:45 successful or being pursued in other
32:47 cities or on different Isiqua
32:50 boards. So I'm going to talk to you a
32:52 little bit for a moment about how we're
32:54 thinking about framing our findings
32:55 tonight. So there's some kind of
32:58 fundamental positions we took from our
33:00 research. Public meetings, as I'm sure
33:02 we know, are a key part of the
33:04 democratic process. Boards and
33:06 commissions, as we've already talked
33:08 about a little bit tonight, are really
33:09 critical way that local governments
33:11 engage their citizens and understand
33:14 their community interests. To ensure all
33:16 members of community are heard equally
33:19 and that diverse viewpoints are
33:21 considered, it's really necessary to
33:23 ensure boards and commissions are
33:24 representative of that community and
33:26 they operate with equity in mind. So we
33:29 found probably unsurprisingly that
33:31 representation on boards matters but to
33:34 be effective it requires folding in
33:36 practices that uphold diversity and in
33:39 ensure inclusion creating spaces where
33:42 everyone feels safe, valued, engaged and
33:46 fully themselves. So we found that
33:48 policies and practices supporting
33:50 diversity really elevate the
33:52 effectiveness of having diverse
33:54 representation.
33:56 We also found that diverse
33:57 representation and inclusive practices
34:00 are necessary to ensure boards and
34:02 commissions can operate with equitable
34:04 principles. So in talking to board
34:07 representatives and staff, we found that
34:10 board experience plays a large part in
34:12 that inclusion piece. So people describe
34:16 recruitment processes, how they're
34:17 onboarded, trainings they receive,
34:20 expectations of their role, you know,
34:22 and how their voices are called in to
34:24 participate in discussions. And from
34:26 that, we've framed our presentation kind
34:28 of around these two areas. One around
34:30 recruitment, which we believe aids in
34:32 diverse representation, and board
34:34 practices and experience, which we
34:36 believe lead to a sense of inclusion. So
34:38 we'll talk about our findings and
34:40 recommendations in each of these areas
34:43 with a pause in between for some
34:45 discussion questions etc. So I'm going
34:48 to hand it off to my colleague Mory to
34:50 speak a little bit more specifically on
34:52 our findings around that uh recruitment
34:55 and diversity piece.
34:58 Awesome. Uh thanks Sarah. Um, as Sarah
35:02 mentioned, the literature view really
35:04 surfaced what diversity is and and what
35:06 it can or cannot do at the advisory
35:08 board level. Um, recruitment was then
35:12 identified and affirmed as the mechanism
35:14 for how we are obtaining diversely
35:16 represented advisory boards. So, this
35:18 section that we're about to talk about
35:20 is really framing how these concepts of
35:22 recruitment and diversity um are showing
35:25 up right now across isqua's boards and
35:27 commissions. Um, and this is going to
35:29 ground the recommendations we'll go over
35:30 at the end of the section.
35:35 Um, Sarah, you can go ahead and click
35:37 the first two. Yes. Sorry, my um,
35:42 there we go. It just has a a delay. No
35:45 worries. Um, so the first two findings
35:48 here on this slide are related to the
35:50 power and the purpose of diversity.
35:52 Um firstly the literature suggests that
35:54 when a certain threshold of diversity is
35:57 obtained it can lead to better outcomes
35:59 and innovation. So this was something
36:01 affirmed in the literature. Um secondly
36:03 the literature framed that diverse
36:05 representation is an essential component
36:08 for interrupting historical barriers um
36:11 such as aspects of white supremacy
36:13 culture that have permeated our our
36:15 public institutions in the United
36:17 States. Um some of these attributes that
36:19 are being interrupted by diverse groups
36:21 might include um how we we tend to
36:24 operate under a rigidness of time um or
36:26 how we push a grinding grip mentality
36:29 onto um onto
36:31 folks. So then you'll see um these final
36:34 points on the slide articulate how
36:35 advisory boards can approach obtaining
36:38 diverse membership through their
36:39 recruitment practices. Um the third
36:42 point on the screen, um the literature
36:44 really frames that a diverse array of
36:46 candidates will be more inclined to
36:48 serve on boards when they're providing
36:50 with an opportunity to both build
36:52 capacity and participate in meaningful
36:55 work. Um related to the fourth point on
36:58 the slide,
37:00 um boards are likely to become more
37:02 diverse when the recruitment strategies
37:05 to obtain them are broadly inviting of
37:07 both self-recruiting and nominated
37:10 candidates. So in other words, what I
37:12 mean by that is um it's important to
37:15 recruit members who are are seeking
37:16 opportunities on their own accord. Um,
37:19 it's also important to specifically
37:21 invite certain candidates to apply
37:23 through nominations from from other
37:25 board members or from city city
37:27 officials. Um, from our interviews, the
37:30 city of Isiqua is currently doing this
37:32 pretty well with with strong balance.
37:35 Um, so that's was encouraging to hear.
37:37 Um, and with that, I'll pass it to
37:39 Jordan.
37:41 Thanks, Mayor. Uh I will be presenting
37:43 our findings related to representation
37:45 and recruitment. Starting with our
37:48 analysis of the geographic
37:49 representation of Isiqua's boards. We
37:52 compared the percentage of members on
37:54 the boards and commissions from each
37:55 neighborhood for the percentage of the
37:57 city population in the neighborhood
37:59 using the 2024 census numbers. And we
38:02 found Squawk Mountain, Isiqua Valley,
38:04 and Oldtown were the most over
38:05 represented areas or they had higher
38:07 percentages of members than would be
38:09 expected based on the population.
38:11 Whereas Isiqua Highlands, North Isiqua,
38:14 and Montro were the most
38:15 underreresented. We also looked at
38:17 applicant numbers from the past few two
38:19 years and found similar although not
38:21 identical trends. The same three were
38:24 the most under represented and the same
38:26 three were the most over represented.
38:28 However, when looking at applicant
38:30 trends, Squawk Mountain was only 4% over
38:32 represented whereas Isiqua Valley was
38:34 15% more represented and those numbers
38:38 are in the appendix as well. One other
38:40 thing to note here is that about 20% of
38:43 the members are from outside of the
38:45 jurisdiction and so those are not
38:47 included in this analysis. So the total
38:49 number of members is a little bit lower
38:51 than what is true for all boards and
38:53 commissions because we're only looking
38:55 at those who reported living inside of
38:57 Isiqua in one of those
39:00 neighborhoods. We also looked at that
39:02 demographic representation in terms of
39:05 gender and race and ethnicity. Overall,
39:08 we found members were relatively
39:10 representative of the community
39:11 population with the exception of those
39:13 identifying as Asian which are under
39:15 reppresented on boards and commissions.
39:18 You can see these trends are relatively
39:19 consistent with applicants and members.
39:22 However, there are some fluctuations in
39:24 applicants over the years. For example,
39:26 in 2024, nearly 60% of applicants were
39:29 female. However, in 2023, only a little
39:32 over 40% were. So, we do see some
39:35 changes over time that are occurring.
39:38 Similarly, while looking at boards and
39:39 commissions as a whole, it's fairly
39:41 representative. When we looked at
39:42 specific boards and broke down that
39:44 representation, we found that it was not
39:47 consistent. For example, some boards are
39:49 approximately 75% white with little
39:52 representation of other
39:54 races. All of this should however be
39:56 taken with a grain of salt as there are
39:58 significant amounts of missing data for
40:01 reporting gender, race, and ethnicity is
40:03 not a requirement. So we have somewhere
40:05 between 13 and 19% missing data which
40:08 could vastly change our findings if we
40:11 did have that full data. We did also
40:13 find that this was reflected in our
40:16 interviews with members who perceived
40:18 their boards as fairly representative
40:19 with some roof room for improvement.
40:22 Members also noted additional aspects of
40:24 diversity such as socioeconomic status,
40:27 age, profession, and renters versus
40:29 homeowners as important aspects of
40:31 diversity and places where there wasn't
40:33 full representation on their boards. We
40:35 however were not able to do an analysis
40:38 such as this with those aspects of
40:40 diversity because we did not have that
40:42 data available.
40:45 Next up, we are going to talk about
40:47 recruitment practices and in terms of
40:51 perception of folks on the board and
40:53 what we heard from our interviews with
40:55 city staff and members of the boards and
40:57 commissions. Staff also provided us with
40:59 some documentation which we reviewed,
41:01 but this is heavily based on perceptions
41:04 that were shared on those interviews.
41:06 One area where perception in actual
41:08 activities may vary is in the outreach
41:10 from city staff. While this came up with
41:13 a perceived gap in some interviews and
41:15 in particular specific postcard outreach
41:17 was not mentioned, we do know that
41:19 postcards went out across the city
41:21 during previous
41:23 years. Staff also highlighted places
41:25 where the city works with some local
41:26 community groups such as the circle on
41:29 Gilman and Y in the highlands, HOAs,
41:31 economic development groups, and a
41:33 presence in various city and HOA
41:36 newsletters. The perception here is that
41:38 anyone not part of these existing
41:40 networks is not being reached as part of
41:42 the recruitment process. We don't know
41:44 for sure who recruitment is reaching
41:45 since we cannot assess those who did not
41:48 apply, but there's a perception that
41:50 it's reaching the same people every
41:51 time. Finally, there's a perception that
41:54 materials are not translated widely into
41:56 languages other than English, which may
41:58 present barriers to reaching groups that
42:01 have other primary
42:03 languages. In terms
42:06 of our other findings, we looked at why
42:09 do people join. So very similar to your
42:11 opening question today as well as how
42:14 they found the position and barriers to
42:16 joining. In terms of why people joined,
42:19 we found that individuals shared
42:21 multiple reasons for joining, but by far
42:23 the two most common were a desire to
42:25 give back and to connect with community,
42:27 which was reflected, I think, today
42:29 during your opening and what all of you
42:31 shared for your reasons for coming to
42:32 the equity board. In terms of finding
42:35 the position, overall members found the
42:38 position either through existing
42:40 personal connections or when seeking out
42:42 a way to get more involved in the
42:44 community. Multiple cited the city
42:46 newsletter in particular as a place
42:48 where they first noticed the posting
42:50 when they were seeking a way to get
42:52 involved. Finally, members mentioned
42:54 overall that they had very little
42:56 hesitation and faced few barriers to
42:58 joining the board themselves. However,
43:01 they shared that they perceived others
43:02 may face hurdles to joining particularly
43:05 in terms of time commitment, a
43:07 perception of the expertise, background
43:09 or knowledge needed, lack of clarity
43:11 around what would be asked of them and
43:13 the scope of duties and a lack of
43:15 awareness of the board in general. I
43:18 will now pass it to Carter and he will
43:21 share our recommendations based on these
43:24 findings.
43:26 Uh hello. Uh I will be speaking to the
43:28 recommendation slides. In our findings,
43:30 we found a perceived hurdle that people
43:32 will self- select out due to a lack
43:35 experience and a need to increase the
43:37 visibility of translated materials. We
43:39 also found that there was an abundance
43:41 of traditional recruitment methods such
43:43 as print advertising, internal
43:45 hiring/board member referrals, and
43:47 in-person interviews. We also found the
43:49 gap in the board and dem demographics.
43:51 Uh while current practices attempt to
43:53 bridge that gap uh while working with
43:56 community local community groups and
43:58 increased presence in newsletters, we
44:00 find expo we find that exploring more
44:02 non-traditional recruitment methods can
44:04 improve this recruitment gap. Some
44:06 actions that could be associated with
44:08 non-traditional recruitment methods
44:09 include uh attending network events,
44:12 community events and conferences,
44:13 distributing fires in common languages
44:15 at specialty grocery stores, and
44:17 recruiting through social media to
44:19 create a more inclusive recruitment
44:21 process. Uh reduce the number of
44:23 interviews needed uh for the application
44:25 process and utilize ongoing partnerships
44:28 with nonprofit to communicate
44:30 expectations for serving by exploring
44:32 non-traditional uh methods of
44:34 recruitment. We believe that these can
44:37 pro uh could bridge the current
44:39 gaps for our uh recruitment related
44:42 recommendations. We believe that an
44:44 increase in communication and standard
44:46 uhization the board's process will
44:48 greatly improve the ability to find
44:50 solutions. For this, we recommend
44:52 following a co-creation style meeting
44:55 process. Co-creation uh is a powerful
44:57 tool to enhance brainstorming and can
45:00 empower board members to contribute.
45:02 These co-creation meetings can be uh
45:04 with a diverse networks that boards have
45:07 and use to help discover new and
45:09 creative ways to recruit. In our recruit
45:12 in our research and interviews, we found
45:14 uh many different types of board roles.
45:17 One of the most prominent ones we found
45:18 in Washington suburbs was the use of uh
45:22 community engagement. To that end, we
45:24 recommend increasing community
45:25 engagement opportunities. This can look
45:27 like attending and or co-planning
45:30 community- based events, creating
45:32 civicmies, supporting communitydriven
45:34 policy development, and co-undraising
45:37 with community- based
45:39 organizations. Now that we have
45:41 discussed the recruitment and
45:42 representation findings uh and our
45:44 current recommendations, we would love
45:46 to hear some feedback on them.
45:49 Is our first gap for any discussion,
45:51 thoughts,
45:52 questions? I'm happy to cut back to
45:54 slides.
45:57 Do you by chance have like retention
45:59 data about people because I see that you
46:02 have those who have applied from the
46:04 previous year. I'm just curious. Do you
46:05 have retention data of how many people
46:07 stay on the board um at all? We don't
46:10 have that right now. Okay. Yeah. Short
46:13 answer.
46:14 I have a question. As our board started,
46:17 we were online and we stayed optional.
46:19 And one of the conversations we had
46:21 early on in our move is the importance
46:23 to op offer online opportunities because
46:27 we've had members who might not be able
46:30 to access cars, transportation, child
46:33 care because all of those are limiting
46:35 factors for people to be able to
46:36 participate in community events and you
46:40 know service like this. Yeah. So I have
46:43 no clue. But do the
46:45 commissioners have on like optional
46:47 online meetings or do they have uh is it
46:51 required? Yeah. And we'll get talk a
46:54 little bit more more about this in our
46:56 second half. But the short answer is
46:57 yes. Almost everyone else that we talk
46:59 to tries to provide um online or zoom
47:03 options uh except for maybe some
47:05 specific meetings throughout the year.
47:08 And the other thing I was going to say
47:09 was while putting flyers and mailing
47:12 them is great, I think tapping into
47:14 social media is better because if you're
47:17 looking at communities that don't speak
47:20 the language, receiving a random flyer
47:22 saying, "Come join is meaningless. I'm
47:25 going to throw it out." But if it is
47:27 through a social network and a
47:29 conversation where people are like,
47:31 "Wait, what what is this and why are you
47:33 sharing this resource?" I think that is
47:35 better sharing
47:37 such opportunities to a more social
47:41 network rather than
47:49 Yeah, please. I was going to ask when
47:51 when you were all doing the assessment
47:54 or like gathering information about the
47:56 incentives, were people um suggesting
48:01 what incentives they would like for
48:03 joining a board? like was it you know
48:07 maybe flexibility of you know the
48:10 schedule or was it like um some kind of
48:13 pay or stipend or what you know what
48:16 whatever those reasons might be did that
48:18 come up at all came up a little bit. So
48:21 the my short answer is in in Isiqua
48:24 specifically we when we asked folks you
48:26 know were there barriers to applying
48:29 most folks said personally like we
48:31 didn't find any barriers. So to me a
48:32 barrier could be something like a stipen
48:34 or you know some sort of compensation or
48:37 other ways of thinking about
48:38 participation right uh there was a kind
48:40 of perceived barriers for others though
48:43 piece that came up a lot so in other
48:47 cities you know everyone has things
48:50 similar to Isqua has stipens uh folks
48:53 sometime again we're going to talk a
48:54 little bit more about this but folks
48:56 have things like child care like meals
48:58 like online options so there are a
49:01 variety of things, but we didn't have
49:02 anyone specifically and Jordan and
49:05 Maria, please tell me if you feel
49:06 differently, I don't believe we had
49:08 anyone specifically say like this is
49:10 something that I would look for.
49:14 So, just to kind of follow up on that,
49:16 so I know and Laura just kind of rattled
49:18 off a whole list of other possible
49:20 barriers and so um I don't it might be
49:24 like a gap in terms of the methodology
49:26 but um you know you asked these
49:29 questions of current board members and
49:32 so there's all the folks who decided not
49:34 to apply for barriers, right? And so I
49:38 think for us to fully understand that,
49:40 right, it's like are the perceived
49:42 barriers again. So that that's a little
49:45 bit of a gap in terms of what we know.
49:48 Just wanted to kind of note that. Yeah,
49:51 absolutely. We can't know what we can't
49:52 know because we don't have access to
49:54 those folks. So I think there's
49:55 certainly something to be said for, you
49:57 know, they may have faced this barrier
49:59 and we have no idea, right? Because
50:00 they're not here.
50:02 That's I had a quick question. So I know
50:05 you touched briefly on like training.
50:07 Um, so I believe new board members and
50:10 board and commission members go through
50:12 some kind of training as soon as they
50:13 join. Um, but did you get any take any
50:15 take from that?
50:17 Yeah, certainly. And yeah, again, we'll
50:20 be talking about a little bit more. So,
50:21 I love that you guys are bringing up
50:22 things that we're going to keep talking
50:24 about. It means we're on the right page,
50:25 I think. Um the yes board members
50:30 there's in isiqua there's a little bit
50:32 inconsistency around trainings that are
50:35 done on every board but folks do receive
50:37 some sort of at least like onboarding in
50:40 some sense but we'll talk a little bit
50:42 more about that and I hopefully I'll
50:44 hold on to that question if we don't
50:45 answer it I'll come back to it okay
50:48 do you have a percentage of how many
50:50 people will intentional search versus
50:52 existing cont connections I'm not sure
50:55 Jordan do you know that off the top of
50:56 your head. I'm just wondering because
50:58 you have so many coming from older squab
51:00 where it's a very tight-knit community
51:02 through word of mouth. It's really going
51:04 out and there are some people even in
51:06 our board who came out from intentional
51:09 searches. So besides that too, I'm
51:11 wondering how else do people find out
51:13 about absolutely physical proximity to
51:16 city hall. Like even just thinking about
51:19 like if you live close to city hall, you
51:21 probably think about the the activity of
51:23 the city more than if you live far from
51:24 city hall. potentially. Do you also have
51:27 age? I don't believe we have age data.
51:30 Is that correct, Jordan?
51:32 That is
51:34 correct. No,
51:36 because I once remember looking at the
51:38 data for Isiqua and we have a lot of um
51:41 older population and my question is how
51:45 much of the people how many of the
51:46 people who are participating are at a
51:49 certain age bracket and so are we
51:52 missing I mean we have our youth voices
51:54 but do we have that 20some year old age
51:58 range or are most boards primarily
52:00 though? Yeah, and I think part of the
52:03 discussion that we will want to have
52:05 with you and leave to you all is
52:07 thinking about, you know, within the
52:09 application process, folks are asked to
52:10 answer a series of demographic questions
52:12 like is there anything else that we want
52:14 to find out like age that we feel is
52:17 really important. So that's a good
52:19 question. Just to add to that, we did
52:22 have age come up quite frequently during
52:24 interviews as a place where maybe there
52:26 wasn't great representation on boards
52:28 and specifically that those younger
52:30 voices might be missing. Yeah. So,
52:33 there's a sense of it. We just don't
52:34 have the numbers. Yeah. I'm wondering if
52:37 we could take a pause to see if Heather
52:39 or Nisha on um on the team's meeting
52:43 have any, you know, questions or
52:44 comments. And definitely invite you to
52:46 raise your hand, use the raise hand
52:48 feature so we can make sure
52:51 I I don't really have a question, just a
52:53 comment. I think this is fascinating
52:56 data that's been acquired. Is this
52:58 something that
52:59 um is is shared with the community?
53:05 Yeah. So, I think I can maybe take that
53:07 one. So, this is the first of two
53:09 meetings that we're coming to with
53:10 Equity Board. We'll be back for your
53:12 June meeting um and again present this
53:15 data in a public meeting. Um so, it'll
53:17 be part of the public record. Um we also
53:20 as part of our contracting with the
53:21 Evans school get a final report out on a
53:24 lot of this um a nice glossy kind of
53:27 kind of item. Um that'll be shared with
53:29 other boards and commissions and I think
53:31 that's part of this next question of how
53:33 do we share how do we implement so um
53:36 it's available to the public but you
53:38 wouldn't but I obviously acknowledge
53:40 that you wouldn't know to look for it
53:41 unless you in this room. So,
53:47 and so just one one other question or I
53:50 thought I had related to the
53:52 recommendations and there was one around
53:53 kind
53:55 of it's not the word you all use but
53:57 like a targeted recruitment strategy
53:59 like so for me how I'm hearing that is
54:02 like if we if we know who our current
54:04 membership is and we know there's gaps
54:06 in rep representation
54:09 um is part of the next step to explore
54:12 the legality of like doing more targeted
54:15 recruitment to be able to intentionally
54:17 close those gaps or yeah I think it
54:20 probably goes hand inhand with this
54:21 question of what other data do we need
54:23 to know to know who we need to reach out
54:25 to I think those two have a sequencing
54:27 to them but there is a question of that
54:29 and that's something that we've been
54:30 talking about with our city clerks who
54:31 run a lot of that process so yeah and
54:35 and essentially it it comes out when
54:38 I've talked to other folks other cities
54:40 that comes out more in you know what
54:42 kind
54:42 what like larger communities do we
54:44 really want to advertise this to? Who do
54:46 we really want to start building bridges
54:48 with? So, it's it becomes more of kind
54:50 of a larger push to involve that
54:52 community rather than more like specific
54:55 targeting is how I might think about
54:57 addressing that. Yeah.
55:00 All right. Any other questions or
55:01 comments on this category? So, I'm not
55:04 sure who is saying yet about um age.
55:08 Just maybe it's not it's not my
55:09 question. Just something to keep in
55:10 mind.
55:11 Um, is there a way to like kind of
55:14 create a comparison I guess of the
55:16 boards or individuals who are on boards
55:18 who are saying there's um not enough
55:21 youth
55:22 representation comparing that to the
55:25 boards that offer uh youth
55:27 representative positions because I'm not
55:29 sure not all boards offer youth
55:32 representatives. Is that is that right?
55:34 That's correct. That is correct. Yeah.
55:35 This board, the environmental board,
55:38 transportation and I want to say
55:39 transportation advisory board. Yeah. So
55:41 maybe making a comparison on that way.
55:43 Maybe get more change um getting more
55:46 youth representative positions. Yeah.
55:51 Okay. I'm going to keep moving. All
55:54 right. Then I'm going to pass it over to
55:57 Maria. Take us into our next section.
56:00 Yeah. Great discussion and really
56:03 exciting to hear a lot of themes that
56:05 have been coming up um throughout also
56:08 this section of the presentation. And so
56:09 I think it'll be interesting to continue
56:12 and u hear um a little bit more about
56:14 the experiences and inclusion practices
56:17 that came up um from our findings as you
56:21 know as we interviewed the city of
56:22 Isiqua board and commission members. So
56:25 that's really the focus of this second
56:27 portion of the presentation is more when
56:30 somebody's on a board what is that
56:32 experience and how do they perceive
56:34 inclusion um throughout that process as
56:37 well. So we'll start by grounding
56:39 ourselves um a little bit in some of the
56:42 lit review. Uh so our lit review um
56:46 helped us identify really some of the
56:49 connections between inclusion and
56:51 experience on equity. Um so one of the
56:54 things of course is ensuring everyone
56:56 feels welcome, feels accepted and
56:58 valued. Um is kind of that bottom line
57:02 of building an inclusive and equitable
57:04 environment. So, there are a few
57:06 different ways that this can happen and
57:08 I'll say um that many of these things I
57:10 think are um practices that are already
57:13 in place to a certain degree within the
57:15 city of Isiqua's board and commissions.
57:17 So, some of these might be just
57:18 refreshers um but also just helpful to
57:21 kind of help ground ourselves as we go
57:23 through the findings and then the
57:25 recommendations kind of following that
57:26 same format as the the earlier section.
57:29 Um so I won't go in detail on each of
57:31 these um findings but the first one
57:35 focuses in on cocreation. So we already
57:38 heard the value of co-creation when it
57:41 came to recruitment. Very similarly
57:43 co-creation really creates that buyin
57:46 from everybody and allows for a dialogue
57:49 and helps to uncover any disparities or
57:52 gaps that might exist um across the
57:56 board. So really an opportunity for that
57:58 co-ownership and building of community
58:01 together. Something I think came up um
58:03 quite a bit was around equity training.
58:06 Um and this came up both in the context
58:08 of course of the interviews and I know
58:10 in just this discussion just prior. Um
58:13 so supporting ongoing equity trainings
58:16 for all board members is really um a
58:18 recommendation that came out in the in
58:20 the findings from the lit review. Um,
58:22 this can help align board members
58:25 understanding and commitment to equity
58:28 and I think really establishes a
58:30 starting point for everybody um to come
58:32 together to have shared definitions to
58:34 have the same sort of context to be able
58:37 to work um off of and then by repeating
58:40 and coming back to the material there's
58:42 opportunities to call in findings in
58:44 different times and places throughout
58:46 the
58:47 process. Next up we have shared
58:49 governance uh practices. So, a little
58:52 bit more of that like co-design,
58:54 co-development um here. Um so, really
58:57 just trying to capture the interests of
58:59 as many participants as possible. Um I
59:02 think we heard a little bit in the um in
59:05 the icebreaker the importance of lived
59:07 experience um and representation. So,
59:10 those sort of factors also come in to
59:12 influencing how how boards can operate.
59:16 Uh next we have uh leading to board
59:20 member retention. So a feeling of
59:22 inclusion, a feeling of belonging uh
59:24 leads to that longevity of so many board
59:27 members. Um and the great experiences
59:29 that were shared as part of the
59:31 interviews or many great experiences
59:32 that were shared as part of the
59:33 interviews. Um, and this is really
59:36 about, you know, feeling empowered to
59:38 step in, feeling a sense of ownership
59:40 and an engagement throughout this whole
59:41 process of being a board or commission
59:44 member. And then lastly, um,
59:46 establishing clear board member roles
59:48 and responsibilities um, can also just
59:52 create more clarity and helping
59:54 everybody understand, you know, how how
59:56 to best contribute uh, to the broader
59:58 kind of collective um, uh, environment
1:00:01 that we're building here.
1:00:04 So moving forward into the uh interview
1:00:08 findings, um we found that board members
1:00:11 perceptions of inclusion really aligned
1:00:13 with a lot of those findings. Um so um
1:00:17 one thing was this feeling of being
1:00:20 supported. So a feeling of inclusion
1:00:21 that is started by the staff liaison. Um
1:00:24 that yields or translates into greater
1:00:27 comfort speaking up in meetings. You
1:00:29 know those ice breakers. I think having
1:00:31 that that place to really start that
1:00:33 dialogue and ensure that everybody's
1:00:35 voice is brought in is also something
1:00:37 that was brought up as a finding um or
1:00:40 brought up in a lot of the interviews.
1:00:42 So a finding as well um we also heard
1:00:46 though on the other end so for newer
1:00:49 members and it's great to hear so many
1:00:50 of the new members already sharing in
1:00:52 this meeting alone. Um but for newer
1:00:55 members um there is a little bit of a
1:00:57 kind of transition to feel more
1:01:00 comfortable right there's not only maybe
1:01:02 the technical uh learning curve of the
1:01:05 the content that's at hand but there's
1:01:07 also uh kind of that dual nature of
1:01:10 trying to understand what it means to
1:01:12 actually be a board and commission
1:01:13 member. Um, fortunately over time, uh,
1:01:17 new members had a tendency to feel a lot
1:01:20 more comfortable and things like
1:01:22 mentoring, uh, the one-on- ones that
1:01:24 some of the chairs were offering were
1:01:26 ways that newer, uh, interviewees had
1:01:29 shared help support them in that process
1:01:31 as well. Um, and then lastly, we have on
1:01:35 this slide, um, the overarching desire
1:01:37 to see increased overall communication.
1:01:40 Um, so I know there's so much
1:01:42 information that you all cover in these
1:01:44 uh board meetings. Um, but uh just kind
1:01:47 of that refresher around, you know, how
1:01:49 the information is being relayed and
1:01:51 kind of the feedback loops um between
1:01:54 particularly the recommendations that
1:01:56 the boards are u making um and then the
1:01:59 information that might land in the hands
1:02:01 of the council. So that was a particular
1:02:04 kind of feedback loop that was called
1:02:06 out um as perhaps an opportunity to
1:02:09 continue to enhance um kind of the
1:02:12 findings of what the takeaways were.
1:02:15 Moving to the next slide. Um just a few
1:02:18 additional findings that our interviews
1:02:20 revealed. Um so equity discussions um
1:02:25 that were happening in boards were often
1:02:27 driven by um individuals. So individual
1:02:30 board members um and sometimes the
1:02:32 chairs or the staff liaison kind of
1:02:35 taking more of those core roles. Um so
1:02:39 that that was one thing that we saw. Uh
1:02:42 another one was that equity trainings
1:02:44 are not always consistent um in terms of
1:02:47 the content, the cadence, the quality,
1:02:50 the applicability to policy areas. Um,
1:02:54 and then not everybody um recalled um
1:02:58 having an equity training um but uh for
1:03:02 those that did um they they they uh
1:03:06 spoke highly of it as well. And then
1:03:09 moving forward we had sense of
1:03:12 community. Um so I think this is kind of
1:03:14 that reoccurring sense of inclusion, a
1:03:16 sense of belonging um that helps support
1:03:18 this ongoing engagement. Um, so things
1:03:22 like uh engaging outside in more social
1:03:25 uh spaces like going out to eat, which I
1:03:27 believe you all are doing after this
1:03:29 meeting. Um, events at like the
1:03:31 Pickering Barn, just places for more
1:03:33 casual conversation were things that
1:03:36 help support um, board members feeling
1:03:38 of inclusion and belonging. And then
1:03:41 lastly, um, accommodations. I think this
1:03:44 also came up earlier in one of the
1:03:46 questions or comments. Um so
1:03:48 opportunities to continue to remind
1:03:50 folks around things like the stipen that
1:03:53 it exists, how to access it. Um the
1:03:55 opportunities for potentially um
1:03:57 translating materials or knowing when
1:04:00 things could or could not be translated
1:04:03 or what the process was to even bring
1:04:05 that up. So just getting a little bit
1:04:07 greater clarity around some of those um
1:04:10 accommodations would also be
1:04:12 appreciated. Um so those were just some
1:04:15 highlights. There are plenty of other
1:04:17 recommendations um or findings I mean
1:04:19 that will uh overview in the report but
1:04:22 with that I want to hand it over to
1:04:24 Carter who can then review some of the
1:04:26 recommendations that we have for this
1:04:28 section.
1:04:30 Thank you Maria. Hello again. Uh due to
1:04:33 the gap we found uh about communication
1:04:36 transparency between the city and the
1:04:39 boards and commissions uh we wanted to
1:04:42 reduce this gap. So we recommend
1:04:43 creating mechanisms to report back. It
1:04:46 can look like starting each meeting with
1:04:47 a segment of reporting feedback from the
1:04:50 city. This loop will help increase
1:04:52 communications transparency
1:04:53 accountability, and engagement as
1:04:55 members will be more aware of how their
1:04:56 contributions are being used by the
1:04:59 city. We also found that the current
1:05:01 training practices on the boards and
1:05:03 commissions could greatly benefit uh
1:05:04 from improvement. We recommend
1:05:06 establishing a standardized equity
1:05:08 training process as part of the
1:05:09 onboarding for equity members and all
1:05:12 members. Uh that includes the following
1:05:14 and established uh establishing a shared
1:05:16 language by defining key equity related
1:05:19 terms. Aligning and introducing shared
1:05:22 equity values for the board to hold. Uh
1:05:25 providing uh an understanding of local
1:05:27 disparities. Ensuring clarity on roles
1:05:29 and responsibilities. uh using case
1:05:31 studies relevant to the board's scope
1:05:33 and explaining potential biases.
1:05:36 Uh and then additionally offering
1:05:39 additional resources for continued
1:05:40 growth. Uh additionally, we uh recommend
1:05:43 taking this training a bit further by
1:05:45 establishing equity trainings for
1:05:47 specific policy areas. This would give
1:05:49 tools uh this would give uh members the
1:05:51 tools needed to uh be more effective and
1:05:54 sensitive to equity concerns within the
1:05:56 community. uh to continue. We found that
1:05:59 there's also challenges uh in
1:06:01 collaboration across the boards. And to
1:06:03 help bridge these gaps, we recommend
1:06:04 creating more spaces for collaboration.
1:06:07 These opportunities would be for all
1:06:09 board uh all boards to come together,
1:06:11 building a deeper repertoire between
1:06:13 them. Some potential community events
1:06:14 can include potlugs, outdoor movie,
1:06:17 outdoor movie screenings, and retreats.
1:06:19 The purpose is to bring uh different
1:06:21 boards together to build a stronger
1:06:23 community. Lastly, we uh see that
1:06:26 there's inconsistencies across the
1:06:28 current onboarding practices. We found
1:06:30 that newer members are uh less likely to
1:06:32 speak up. To find solutions for these
1:06:35 two things, we recommended we recommend
1:06:37 standardizing the current onboarding
1:06:38 process and adding additional onboarding
1:06:40 options. These options can look like uh
1:06:42 one-on-one board onboarding with staff
1:06:45 uh board buddies or any other program to
1:06:47 really improve the onboarding process.
1:06:49 We believe uh this will help build
1:06:50 relationships and uh create a more
1:06:53 inclusive environment. And with all that
1:06:56 said,
1:06:57 uh now that we discussed inclusion and
1:06:59 equity findings and our current
1:07:01 recommendations on those, we would love
1:07:02 to hear your feedback about them.
1:07:07 Yeah. So again, any thoughts, comments,
1:07:10 questions?
1:07:12 I don't know if we got to your point
1:07:13 about trainings that you were thinking
1:07:15 about equity training. Okay. Okay.
1:07:19 Were there any um thoughts about the
1:07:22 city website
1:07:25 like accessibility, ease of use, um etc.
1:07:29 Yes, we talked about that a bit and I
1:07:32 was actually uh we're considering some
1:07:34 additional recommendation options that
1:07:36 do include uh making the website more
1:07:39 accessible for uh all members of the
1:07:41 community.
1:07:43 Is that something that um in terms of
1:07:46 accessibility, are you thinking about
1:07:47 usability, language, like what comes to
1:07:49 mind for you?
1:07:52 Uh like easier way to get to places on
1:07:55 the site. Um I tried to get a few places
1:07:58 and it was a little bit of a runaround
1:08:00 and I couldn't always find what I was
1:08:02 looking for. Yes. So I still have
1:08:04 questions I probably ask you about, but
1:08:06 bring them my way. Certainly. Yes. I
1:08:09 mean, government websites are known for
1:08:11 their usability. I believe
1:08:14 I'm thinking like it could lead to
1:08:15 frustrations and stuff and like
1:08:19 absolutely I mean more than more than
1:08:21 one of you struggled to submit your
1:08:23 application
1:08:25 um and had to submit a a separate
1:08:28 document. So, you know, there there's
1:08:30 both the bigger accessibility issues and
1:08:32 then there's like the can you submit
1:08:34 your application for a board position
1:08:36 without getting an error screen. Um that
1:08:39 yeah that's a thing too that came off
1:08:41 this round. Totally. And again you know
1:08:42 to the question of we don't know what we
1:08:44 don't know of folks who couldn't access
1:08:46 who couldn't get there right who
1:08:47 couldn't submit their applications. But
1:08:50 I I think that yeah it's absolutely a
1:08:52 point to consider. Yeah. In talking to
1:08:55 any of the board and commission members
1:08:56 did you talk to anyone who left within a
1:08:59 year? I think we only spoke to current
1:09:02 board members. So, no is the short
1:09:05 answer because I think one of the
1:09:07 questions I'm wondering is why people
1:09:09 leave and doing exit surveys because I
1:09:12 love all of the work you've done and
1:09:15 information you've gotten but I'm also
1:09:17 wondering why some people leave.
1:09:19 Absolutely. What were barriers?
1:09:22 I see. I know when you were doing the
1:09:25 recruitment I was asking a lot about
1:09:26 inclusion. Now I feel like you've done
1:09:28 the inclusion and I'm looking at No,
1:09:30 it's all linked. So appreciate because I
1:09:33 think my question is as people are
1:09:35 coming in, what are some what are some
1:09:38 strategies and some things in place like
1:09:41 what are we thinking to put in place to
1:09:43 make sure they feel welcome to even step
1:09:45 into the running, right? Because
1:09:49 you just said we don't know and all of
1:09:51 this is like what to do once they're in
1:09:53 the door, but how do we get them even in
1:09:55 the parking lot? Yeah. And so we can do
1:09:58 chats with them at that point. to meet
1:10:01 with them. So, yeah, I think you did
1:10:03 have doing community engagement, you got
1:10:06 to share that. Um because a one-on-one
1:10:09 and heavy recruiting or be available I
1:10:13 think is really important because you
1:10:14 don't know what you don't know.
1:10:16 Absolutely. And I I think you know yeah
1:10:18 there's this kind of spectrum of
1:10:19 entrance like where we where can we
1:10:21 reach out to people and so we focus on
1:10:24 this area where we don't have
1:10:25 information but again as you said
1:10:27 there's all these other factors as well.
1:10:29 So thinking about where can you grow
1:10:30 longer relationships with communities
1:10:33 and it kind of gets at that broader
1:10:35 bridge building. And that's why I was
1:10:37 kind of looking at the retention data
1:10:38 because I'm like how long does someone
1:10:40 stay on and if you have every year
1:10:42 you're refreshing your list and everyone
1:10:44 who knew then yeah what is the look back
1:10:48 of the reasoning right absolutely um I
1:10:51 would also recommend maybe like instead
1:10:52 of so there's like exit surveys are
1:10:55 great also state interviews as people
1:10:57 are already on the board continuously
1:10:59 check in with their onboarding buddies
1:11:01 and be like what inspires you what's
1:11:03 keeping you going on here what could be
1:11:06 better um to kind of be a little bit
1:11:07 more proactive. Yeah. About that. I
1:11:10 think adding on to both their points um
1:11:12 the newest board drummers like us like
1:11:15 what we went through to kind of apply
1:11:17 and get through it. Like I mean I can
1:11:19 tell you the struggles I had to do it.
1:11:22 So I mean that's like information that
1:11:25 of the people who are here who are like
1:11:27 almost done here, right? Yeah. Yeah.
1:11:29 Absolutely. Yeah. And I think just uh
1:11:32 one more piece is oh some of the the
1:11:34 things that we're bringing in are of um
1:11:37 we the inclusion pieces what we heard
1:11:40 anecdotally from other cities and
1:11:42 leaison of why wasn't necessarily
1:11:45 specific reasons but why they thought
1:11:47 folks might be leaving and a lot of it
1:11:49 came down to some of the structure
1:11:50 pieces we talked about. So what is
1:11:52 someone's expectation of being on the
1:11:54 board? What what do they believe can and
1:11:56 can't get done and do those things match
1:11:59 to what the city is looking for? Right.
1:12:01 Um the other piece of it is around some
1:12:03 of what we already talked about around
1:12:05 the barriers of it's just too much of a
1:12:07 time commitment and it's I you know but
1:12:10 it's really often a combination. It's a
1:12:12 time commitment and I don't feel like I
1:12:13 know what I'm doing. It's usually it's
1:12:15 less one or the other. It's not just oh
1:12:16 it's too much time. It's I also like
1:12:18 don't feel quite right or I don't feel
1:12:20 like quite like I know what I'm doing.
1:12:22 So that's all anecdotal but a little bit
1:12:24 of information. Yeah. Yeah. And in terms
1:12:27 of the on boarding training, I know the
1:12:29 equity board has board buddies and when
1:12:31 I first joined that was really helpful
1:12:32 because I got to know like more I got to
1:12:34 speak to someone on the board who told
1:12:36 me more more about the equity board than
1:12:37 just like the little description on the
1:12:39 city website which was really helpful.
1:12:41 Um and also kind of going back I know we
1:12:43 talked about like how trying to get like
1:12:45 more members that aren't just like
1:12:46 recommended for the board. like during
1:12:48 interviews, did you get like any
1:12:49 feedback from current members like on
1:12:51 how to reach out to people who aren't
1:12:53 necessarily like um like in any is the
1:12:56 Quest City boards yet or aren't are like
1:12:58 new to the community? I was wondering
1:13:00 like any different like other than
1:13:01 flyers and like social media. But yeah,
1:13:03 and I'll I'll let Marie or Jordan jump
1:13:04 in, but I think the big piece was really
1:13:06 uh kind of what we already talked about
1:13:08 of like building bridges with various
1:13:09 like nonprofit organizations and other
1:13:12 folks that uh can help kind of broaden
1:13:14 that funnel for recruitment. Jordan
1:13:16 Maria, anything you'd add there of of
1:13:18 things you heard?
1:13:21 I think one other thing was just the
1:13:22 general awareness of boards and
1:13:24 commissions. Um, and interestingly, the
1:13:27 youth board is one that is out in the
1:13:29 community a lot and doing a lot and so
1:13:32 many people and you too youth advisory
1:13:34 members can speak to this better than I
1:13:36 can. um but has that is getting involved
1:13:41 with youth but it seemed like when we
1:13:43 were talking to youth members they're
1:13:44 like we did the triathlon and had no
1:13:46 idea it was connected to the boards and
1:13:48 commissions. So just capitalizing on
1:13:51 things that are already happening and
1:13:53 saying like this is part of this larger
1:13:55 thing and here's how you could get more
1:13:57 involved in it and thinking about other
1:13:59 events that boards and commissions are
1:14:01 already at and have a presence at to
1:14:04 help build that community awareness
1:14:07 was another thing that came up.
1:14:11 Thanks. One one thing I'm thinking about
1:14:14 in terms of like tactically implementing
1:14:16 the recommendations that are laid out.
1:14:19 Um so the way the the findings and
1:14:22 recommendations are presented, it's kind
1:14:24 of treating all of the boards and
1:14:26 commissions as a single unit when we all
1:14:29 have very different practices
1:14:32 um and bylaws and ground rules. And so
1:14:36 like you know when I saw some of the
1:14:38 recommended actions you know I I feel
1:14:40 like the equity board is doing a number
1:14:42 of them. And so for part of me and I
1:14:44 think in turn in terms of turning
1:14:46 recommendations to actions, it might be
1:14:48 helpful to think about whether you can
1:14:51 um maybe show what those gaps are by the
1:14:55 specific boards and commissions because
1:14:58 otherwise you know I think you'll have
1:14:59 board members, staff liaison trying to
1:15:02 piece it apart and figure out okay what
1:15:04 is more actionable for our board or
1:15:06 commission. Um, and then I'm also
1:15:08 thinking about a next step is, you know,
1:15:10 with I know Tisha's kind of involved at
1:15:13 kind of the overarching layer. It might
1:15:17 be thinking about what is standard
1:15:19 governance. So I know you you all talked
1:15:22 about like standardizing certain
1:15:23 elements, but like you know across the
1:15:26 board, what are some standard practices,
1:15:28 you know, for all boards and commissions
1:15:31 and where should that variation be
1:15:34 allowed to happen to like bubble up, you
1:15:37 know, innovative ideas, better ideas,
1:15:40 but um I think it would save a lot of
1:15:42 time and energy if if the known best
1:15:45 practices are just standard across
1:15:48 boards and commissions. that might be
1:15:49 helpful in terms of moving forward like
1:15:52 what what is something that all boards
1:15:53 and commissions need to do? Uh what is
1:15:56 the gap for specific boards and
1:15:58 commissions and then you know then I
1:16:00 think with like the boards and the staff
1:16:02 leaison there could be some specific
1:16:04 action plans for each one about which
1:16:07 ones to move forward with because like I
1:16:09 think you know the highest priority for
1:16:10 the city it kind of depends on which
1:16:12 board or commissioner. So I think
1:16:15 building on and the second question I
1:16:18 know you guys were talking about how
1:16:21 there's different equity trainings for
1:16:23 different boards. I would say at least
1:16:25 for me that stood out to me the most. If
1:16:27 you have inconsistencies in what
1:16:28 people's understanding of equity is uh
1:16:31 what they think they should do that's
1:16:33 going to have an impact on their
1:16:34 policies, how they interact with other
1:16:37 boards and hence have an impact on the
1:16:40 community in some way either positive or
1:16:41 negative. And I think that's something
1:16:43 that we should address.
1:16:45 The one thing I also want to say is in
1:16:48 creating a board and being very mindful
1:16:51 who's already on the board and whose
1:16:53 voice is being heard and whose voice is
1:16:56 missing because I know that sometimes
1:16:59 even in equity boards like ours that can
1:17:02 become an issue. So constantly being
1:17:05 mindful and what is in writing as you
1:17:08 were saying you know you we need to be
1:17:10 more mindful and things need to be
1:17:11 written. So I don't think even we have
1:17:13 it in right now we are looking for
1:17:15 representation to represent our
1:17:18 community and so what does that you
1:17:20 showed us that was one of the first data
1:17:21 slides you said you showing you know
1:17:23 Hispanic black and all of that but how
1:17:26 how do we ensure that there's good
1:17:29 representation and so people are
1:17:33 applying what is their role so for
1:17:36 example in like government you have
1:17:38 congress people have to be from certain
1:17:41 number from each state. So in coming
1:17:43 into a board, do you have some kind of
1:17:46 a representation location or some kind
1:17:50 of identity that someone needs to have
1:17:53 to be part of that board so that you can
1:17:56 ensure voice and representation? Yeah,
1:17:59 it's great. It's a great question and
1:18:00 it's one I I'll tell you every board
1:18:02 struggles with and every city struggles
1:18:04 with and so you've really hit upon
1:18:06 something that it's like a gnarly thing
1:18:07 to to work out. Yeah.
1:18:12 Well, I'm curious um in hearing from you
1:18:15 all. I know you interviewed folks in
1:18:17 other
1:18:18 jurisdictions and
1:18:21 um overall how did how did we compare to
1:18:25 what you learned across Yeah. Yeah. And
1:18:28 I think we we try to highlight some of
1:18:30 it throughout this, but to kind of
1:18:31 summarize it in full, um I would say
1:18:36 that overall Isqua is doing like a
1:18:40 pretty good job break in comparison.
1:18:42 Again, most of our data is anecdotal,
1:18:44 but overall pretty good. I think what
1:18:46 we've seen is, you know, Isqua has a
1:18:49 growth mindset. Um and other cities are
1:18:52 working on similar things. Obviously
1:18:55 there's always room to grow but kind of
1:18:57 a similar boat. Uh we've seen less
1:19:00 consistency across boards to the point
1:19:02 you were talking about around uh
1:19:05 operations. So trainings you know
1:19:08 guidance leaison recruitment other
1:19:10 boards try have worked a little bit more
1:19:12 in terms of their clarity and
1:19:14 consistency in those areas. Um similarly
1:19:18 staff I think I mentioned this already
1:19:19 but staff on other boards mentioned
1:19:21 clear policy and procedure is a big part
1:19:24 of retention and so getting some of
1:19:27 those stricter and more standardized
1:19:30 governance practices in place could be
1:19:32 really helpful um centralized place for
1:19:35 trainings and resources um and
1:19:38 opportunities for overlap. So those are
1:19:40 kind of our big takeaways in comparison.
1:19:42 And then a lot of the different actions
1:19:44 and recommendations we brought in are
1:19:46 all things we got from speaking with
1:19:49 other cities. Those things other folks
1:19:51 are actively trying to uh use in to
1:19:55 combat some of those gaps. So we'll have
1:19:57 a lot more on that in our specific paper
1:20:00 once we've done more.
1:20:06 I had one question running short on
1:20:09 time, but just I wanted to revisit the
1:20:12 representation chart that you had. Yeah,
1:20:14 absolutely. And um I've been talking
1:20:17 about this for like the last 30 minutes,
1:20:19 so I don't really have You want the geog
1:20:21 geography or the demograph? Yes. So I'm
1:20:24 curious if we were to apply an equity
1:20:27 lens on this.
1:20:30 I I'm wondering if trying to have
1:20:33 representation at par with the
1:20:35 population is one way to look at it, but
1:20:39 really having representation that tries
1:20:42 to battle the inequities that exist. In
1:20:45 other words, like having greater
1:20:48 representation for communities that are
1:20:50 facing larger inequities would seem
1:20:53 appropriate. So, for example, let's just
1:20:56 say 60% white. Maybe they're only
1:21:00 suffering from 30% of the inequities
1:21:02 that we see in our community. Maybe we
1:21:04 need 30% representation there, but
1:21:07 perhaps, you know, 20% from blacks even
1:21:11 though they're only 4% of the community.
1:21:14 So, I'm just wondering like how would we
1:21:16 apply the equity lens on this? What have
1:21:19 you found in your research? And what do
1:21:20 we think as as a board on Do these bars
1:21:24 need to match up or actually they need
1:21:26 to be biased towards the inequities that
1:21:29 exist? They're over representing big
1:21:32 groups that are furthest from
1:21:34 opportunity. Yeah,
1:21:36 great point. Yeah, it's a great point. I
1:21:39 don't I don't know that we have any
1:21:40 specific there's no specific research on
1:21:43 exact makeups. I think it's what we've
1:21:45 probably seen is you need a a
1:21:47 combination of different people and you
1:21:49 need practices that back up that
1:21:51 representation. I don't necessarily have
1:21:53 specific numbers for you, but I think
1:21:55 there is something to be said for
1:21:57 bringing in that idea of, you know, um
1:22:00 or is it do you want Yeah. do you want
1:22:02 parody or do you need to think about
1:22:04 whose voices have traditionally not been
1:22:06 heard?
1:22:08 Yeah, I would love everyone's ideas. Is
1:22:10 it possible to do your demographic
1:22:12 representation based on board members
1:22:14 and commissions as well?
1:22:16 I think I think we can also have clarity
1:22:20 on city city population, right? Yes.
1:22:22 Okay. I think there's a chart in the
1:22:25 back that breaks this down. Um boarding
1:22:27 commission like you can see the arts
1:22:29 commission, the equity boards different
1:22:31 characteristics. I think I messed that.
1:22:33 Sorry. No, no, no. You're good. It was I
1:22:36 have it by year. I don't have it by
1:22:38 specific. Oh, okay. It's floated around.
1:22:41 So we'll add it in the next cuz I don't
1:22:43 I was looking for data like for the
1:22:45 economic committee what was the
1:22:47 representation because I know this
1:22:48 committee is very diverse but I wondered
1:22:50 about some of the other committees and
1:22:52 in that work when they're doing that
1:22:54 work what is the intention and who are
1:22:57 they trying to make sure their voices in
1:22:59 the community that they're serving and
1:23:02 so how we and yeah we think we have to
1:23:06 be done is is unknown like other or is
1:23:09 it like they didn't Sir, the the latter.
1:23:12 Okay. Would it also be possible to add
1:23:15 the years? So, the people who are on the
1:23:17 board, the years that they lived in is
1:23:19 because I know that was a question on
1:23:21 the application of how many years did
1:23:23 you live here? Yeah, that's fascinating.
1:23:25 I don't know that we have that data for
1:23:26 all of them at the moment. Jordan, I
1:23:29 might be wrong, but I don't think we
1:23:31 have data for everyone on years lived in
1:23:33 Isiqua. I have not seen that data. Um,
1:23:37 but Jillian or Andrea, let us know if
1:23:39 you have it and I'd be happy to play
1:23:41 around with it. Exists.
1:23:45 Sorry, can I follow up? Um, so since
1:23:47 this since unknown is people who didn't
1:23:49 answer um is there an other?
1:23:54 So all the I don't believe so. All the
1:23:56 demographic data is optional. Got for
1:23:59 the most part. So um I don't know. I
1:24:02 don't Jordan again this Jordan did all
1:24:04 of our analysis. I don't believe other
1:24:05 was an option. I just know personal
1:24:07 experience they told Middle Eastern
1:24:09 people to put white which is why
1:24:11 sometimes it's like a little bit like
1:24:13 but it's not. So, you know, it's kind of
1:24:15 like Absolutely. This is this is all
1:24:17 mapped to what's on census data, right?
1:24:20 Which is the census does that. Okay. So,
1:24:22 that's that's why these are specific
1:24:24 categories because we're trying to it
1:24:26 because unfortunately to collect data
1:24:28 and compare it, we have to relate it to
1:24:30 what's there. No, no. I think I think
1:24:33 it's a great point though like it it is
1:24:35 not necessarily capturing everything
1:24:37 because we're trying to map it to this
1:24:39 existing data set. Yeah. And your data
1:24:41 source is the application form that
1:24:44 board members use in their application.
1:24:46 Yeah. Okay. So, I know we're wrapping
1:24:49 down winding down time. Dale, don't give
1:24:52 me the Ray Ray already came over here to
1:24:54 ask where all of you were. So, that's
1:24:56 why I just stepped out. So, I think
1:24:59 Laura has one more question. I also want
1:25:01 to check really quickly to see if
1:25:02 Heather had a question on the team. No.
1:25:05 Okay, that's cool. So, Laura, I just
1:25:08 want to wonder, do you have
1:25:10 socioeconomic data and LGBTQ data as
1:25:14 part of this? Because I'm wondering
1:25:15 again some commissions we might want to
1:25:18 make sure some of the what is diversity
1:25:21 and what who's being represented and so
1:25:24 I'm wondering about that for somebody.
1:25:26 Yeah. Again, not currently, but again,
1:25:28 part of this I think the next step for
1:25:30 the city will be like what kinds of
1:25:32 things we want to think about now
1:25:34 including if if that if those things are
1:25:36 are what we want to capture. Okay. On
1:25:38 the application form, other demographic
1:25:40 questions.
1:25:42 Okay. Well, and then do you want to
1:25:45 stand with the Yeah, absolutely. So,
1:25:47 we're here today to get your feedback.
1:25:49 Um, we're also getting feedback from the
1:25:50 internal equity team, which is a group
1:25:52 of staff members who are engaged in this
1:25:54 work as well and the city clerks and
1:25:56 communications who also touch a lot of
1:25:58 this recruitment um, and governance
1:26:00 pieces of it. So, we'll get their
1:26:01 recommendations incorporated into the
1:26:03 final report. Come back to you in June
1:26:06 with any changes. Um, and I know we
1:26:08 started to touch on the the highest
1:26:10 priority um, for these recommendations,
1:26:13 but I think we can maybe dig into that
1:26:14 question a little bit further at that
1:26:16 June meeting. um and identify some of
1:26:19 those gaps. Um we've already noted a lot
1:26:21 of the data gaps, making sure there
1:26:22 aren't any like recommendation gaps that
1:26:24 are missing as well. So uh that's uh
1:26:27 that's our plan and we'll talk more
1:26:29 about implementation in June as well.
1:26:32 So thank you really quick to everyone
1:26:34 for your being here, for your questions,
1:26:36 for listening to our very long
1:26:37 presentation. It really helps us and get
1:26:40 some perspective and come up with some
1:26:41 next step. So I really appreciate your
1:26:43 time. Yeah, it's a great report and I
1:26:45 think the energy in the room speaks to
1:26:46 like folks are thinking about like how
1:26:49 to put this stuff into practice. So,
1:26:51 it's been great work. And then Jillian,
1:26:53 you'll be uh filling in for Dale at the
1:26:56 next meeting as well. Yeah. So, I'll be
1:26:58 with you guys through the summer, which
1:26:59 I'm really excited about. Um, and I know
1:27:02 I'm between you all and some social
1:27:04 time. So, let's chat uh over at if
1:27:07 you're curious about me or want to see a
1:27:09 picture of
1:27:12 Okay. So that is our the other business
1:27:16 and okay so then I think with that we
1:27:19 are adjourning um so it's 7:34 and the
1:27:23 May meeting of the equity board is now
1:27:26 adjourned and um we'll see all of you
1:27:29 who are have time and