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Wednesday, September 10, 2025

6:00 PM · 1h 47m
Topics tracked across meetings:
Issaquah Sustainable Building and Infrastructure Policy Update AB 9070 2/5
Informational Update: Report on Municipal Building Decarbonization Analysis ID 1902 3/4
Climate Action Plan Update Progress & Next Steps (D) ID 0860 2/2
Section
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of August 13, 2025
packet pp.3–4
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 08-13-25 Environmental Board Minutes Page [1] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental Board 6:30 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. August 13, 2025 MINUTES NW, Issaquah
4. AGENDA ITEMS
4a
Municipal Building Decarbonization / Fuel Transition Assessment (I)
30 min · David Reedy, Sustainability Coordinator · packet pp.5–29
Topics: Climate
Staff report:
This Informational Update provides a
4b
Sustainable Building and Infrastructure Policy (D, A)
45 min · David Reedy, Sustainability Coordinator · packet pp.31–164
Topics: Climate
Staff report:
Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov
4c
Climate Action Plan Update Progress & Next Steps (D)
20 min · Stacy Vynne McKinstry, Sustainability Manager · packet pp.165–170
Topics: Climate
Staff report:
Office of Sustainability 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov
5. REPORTS
5a
Engagement with Chefchaouen, Morocco n/a
0:02 somewhere in New York. I forgot the name
0:04 of the school, the
0:09 recording. All right. Um, good. My name
0:11 is Don Mc Williams. I'm going to be
0:13 chairing the meeting tonight of the
0:14 September 10th environmental board
0:16 meeting. Um, this is a hybrid meeting.
0:19 So, for those of you in the room, board
0:21 members, if you have questions, please
0:22 stick your sign up. For those of you
0:23 online, I don't see anybody online yet.
0:27 Um, just raise your hand.
0:34 Thanks. We had minutes attached to this.
0:36 They were short. Is there any changes to
0:38 the minutes?
0:52 take us to attendance.
0:55 Uh we have a lot of folks on wonderful
0:57 vacations or getting married. So we have
0:59 a very small group today. I'll just go
1:01 through those that are present and then
1:03 go through the applices. Um Tommy
1:06 Anderson
1:07 >> here
1:11 >> oh sorry skipped Tommy Divia
1:13 >> here. Uh Karen P.
1:16 >> Mina June is possibly joining us online.
1:21 Uh Don Mc Williams
1:22 >> here
1:23 >> and John Smith
1:24 >> here.
1:25 >> And then for excused absences we have
1:28 Nancy Davidson, Dixie Bear, Alex Lee
1:31 Tigner and Nukem and Keith.
1:34 But we do have quum and John will be
1:36 sitting in as a regular member today.
1:43 >> Hearing that changes the minutes will be
1:45 approved.
1:49 >> What comments want to comment tonight?
1:51 >> I would love to.
1:52 >> Is it five minutes now?
1:54 >> Yes. Yeah. If you
1:57 wanted
1:59 Yeah. Pick you up better. Right there is
2:01 a good thing. Sure.
2:09 Is this good? Yep.
2:11 >> Super. All right. Well, um I'm glad to
2:14 be here. I'm glad for all of you being
2:16 on the environmental board and uh uh my
2:19 name is Annne Fletcher and uh I'm a
2:21 37year resident of Isiqua and I work
2:24 with the people for climate action uh
2:27 group and I'm in uh lead the Isiqua
2:30 chapter. Um, just for those of you that
2:32 don't know, the PCA, which is the
2:34 acronym for people for climate action,
2:37 is a nonprofit organization and it's
2:39 coalition of 13 city chapters in King
2:42 County. And our purpose is to work with
2:44 the local governments to meet the state,
2:47 county, and city goals to reduce
2:49 greenhouse gas emissions. Big goal.
2:53 Um, but we are all just citizens,
2:55 ordinary citizens like you. Um, with
2:58 various professions and backgrounds. um
3:01 and our experiences and investigation
3:03 have just led us to feel really strongly
3:05 about this and be willing to put in time
3:08 and effort um on it. Um and uh so uh
3:14 since I just a little bit of background
3:16 for you, a little context. Um PCA
3:18 started in 2015 and we uh have provided
3:22 information and advocacy to our local uh
3:26 and regional elected officials and
3:29 relevant staff members
3:32 and um and our communities. Um we
3:35 advocated for the establishment of an
3:37 environmental board in the Sagar. Uh and
3:40 we collaborated with the city on two
3:43 community climate convenings which were
3:45 wonderful. Got input from all the
3:47 community uh before the first climate
3:51 action plan was established. Uh we
3:54 participate in the annual sustainability
3:56 fairs and um occasionally we provide
4:00 letters of support for hidden grant
4:02 applications just a variety of things
4:04 whatever we can do to help. Um we have
4:08 contributed to the passage and
4:10 implementation of the current climate
4:12 action plan for the city. Um and uh we
4:16 are especially focused on the variety of
4:18 ways to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
4:22 Um, we have witnessed over this last
4:25 five years, our cities and our counties
4:28 strive very hard to implement the plans
4:32 that were set out and our greenhouse gas
4:35 inventories unfortunately are showing
4:37 that we are not we are not reducing our
4:40 emissions
4:42 um at all or not enough for sure. Um and
4:47 so this is based on our regular
4:50 inventories and uh we realize we have a
4:53 lot of hindrances, a lot of challenges.
4:55 We have systems in our country that
4:57 don't aren't set up. Our society is not
5:00 set up. There's conflicts um in our
5:03 country and we have unprecedented growth
5:06 in our area and we have a lot of
5:09 factors. But it's still possible to do
5:12 this with a more collaborative approach.
5:14 So our idea is to collaborate across all
5:18 levels of government and to kind of take
5:19 a fresh approach. Um it uh the King
5:23 County um is doing an update on their
5:26 plan as well. So looking at that, they
5:29 are um scaling up
5:32 and accelerating. That's what uh the
5:34 head of the timeout office told me when
5:36 I met with her last month. It was scale
5:39 up and accelerate. that's was was their
5:42 mandate from the county. Um and they
5:45 know that increasing collaboration with
5:48 them, the cities, the community is going
5:50 to be a key to success.
5:52 So, uh currently is many other cities
5:55 are also updating the climate action
5:57 plans and I know you're involved in
5:58 that. So, I wanted to be following that.
6:01 Um and I think this is a great
6:04 opportunity to do a lot of of good
6:06 things in the plan and there are many
6:08 many good things in the plan but in
6:10 particular our focus is to significantly
6:12 reduce emissions within the next five
6:14 years and so to that end coming to my
6:17 final point here the PCA um created a
6:20 task force to to and spent about five
6:23 months researching and identifying 12
6:25 critical actions that our local
6:28 governments um can implement that would
6:31 be the most crucial to getting this to
6:34 happen. And they're not always the
6:35 easiest ones,
6:37 but most of our emissions are from
6:38 buildings and transportation. So, five
6:40 of the actions focus on a smooth
6:43 transition to clean energy buildings.
6:46 And five actions work similarly with
6:49 transportation and two of the actions
6:51 are overarching and foundational to all
6:54 the other things happening. And those
6:56 two are having sufficient dedicated
6:59 financial resources to do these things.
7:01 And the other is community education and
7:04 involvement.
7:06 So because all these actions kind of
7:08 work together and they acrewue
7:09 incrementally over time, it's really
7:11 important for government to start on all
7:13 of them um as soon as possible to get
7:17 the necessary emissions reductions over
7:19 time. So Stacy and David can send this
7:23 PCA report to you. I sent it to them. Um
7:26 I I do suggest that you not be
7:28 overwhelmed by it because we you know
7:30 how these things are. But you know kind
7:32 of look at the read the introduction and
7:34 um and look at the table of contents
7:36 just to get the idea of what are the
7:38 actions and see how they fit with and
7:41 and of course Stacy and David have
7:43 already read it and they are familiar
7:45 and can answer questions and I'm happy
7:47 to answer questions but I do hope to
7:48 come back sometime and discuss a little
7:50 bit further with you um in a way that
7:52 would work out with the board. um what
7:54 these might be and how they might fit
7:56 into it's a cost climate action plan.
7:58 So, thank you.
8:00 >> Okay,
8:06 we have three topics tonight. Um
8:07 municipal building decarbonization and
8:10 fuel transition assessment. Um
8:13 that'sformational only. Um and we're
8:16 report on sustainable building and
8:17 infrastructure um policy originally that
8:20 we're going to take action now because
8:22 the small group Stacy's asked that we
8:24 just kind of reserve for comment tonight
8:26 take action another time. Then the third
8:29 thing is climate action and update
8:31 progress next steps. So um David is
8:34 going to start us off.
8:37 >> So I have the first two topics. Um it is
8:42 going to be a pretty deep dive into
8:45 um municipal work and municipal
8:48 buildings
8:53 uh for the for my presentations today.
8:56 Um so for this first uh presentation
9:00 this one is informational only. I'm
9:02 going to ask that um we save questions
9:05 until the end. I'll get through it.
9:07 there uh is a lot of information and
9:09 details in it, but at the end we can
9:11 kind of go through all questions for the
9:13 next pres presentation about the
9:14 sustainable building infrastructure
9:16 policy. Um I'm happy to take questions
9:18 as we go.
9:21 So um the
9:25 uh municipal building decarbonization
9:28 assessment uh was passed in early 2024.
9:32 Um and we were able to hire a
9:35 consultant. We worked with McDonald
9:36 Miller for the actual work. Um, and that
9:38 work was completed throughout most of
9:40 2024.
9:42 Um, in early 2025, it the report was
9:45 turned over to city staff. We did um
9:47 city staff assessment of the information
9:49 of the report. Um, and then we also
9:52 worked before bringing it back to the
9:53 environmental board, we and city
9:55 council, we worked very hard to
9:57 incorporate the results of that
9:59 assessment and the results of that uh,
10:01 staff assessment into um, our capital
10:04 improvement plan. Um, and so that's one
10:07 of the reasons why it's coming to at
10:09 this point. We were able to get a lot of
10:12 uh, information and projects into that
10:14 plan and I'll be talking about that um,
10:16 a little bit later today. And then I'll
10:18 also note that uh this uh is a
10:21 presentation to the environmental board
10:23 today and I'll be going to city council
10:25 to present um roughly these same slides
10:28 uh on Monday.
10:31 So as a little bit of background um and
10:34 brought up our greenhouse gas inventory.
10:36 This is actually an image of our 2022
10:39 municipal greenhouse government
10:41 operations um greenhouse gas inventory.
10:44 And it might be familiar to folks who've
10:46 been on the board for a little while and
10:47 for a few years or it might be new to
10:49 those who have joined uh more recently,
10:52 but this was actually the first
10:53 inventory that the city has ever done
10:55 that address greenhouse gas emissions
10:57 associated with city operations. As a
11:00 note, we are updating our greenhouse gas
11:02 inventory for municipal operations now
11:05 um for uh the 2024 year um and we expect
11:09 those results in early 2026 and that
11:12 will be coming to the board early next
11:14 year.
11:15 But so the real focus of today's
11:19 conversation on fuel transition
11:21 assessment which is uh what the report
11:24 uh for this um was called um is really
11:28 on the natural gas use associated in
11:31 city facilities. Right? So you can see
11:34 it is the the largest chunk of our uh
11:37 municipal greenhouse gas emissions. Um
11:40 but this is where uh the bulk of the
11:43 effort for the fuel transition
11:44 assessment was looking at what would it
11:46 take to transition our natural gas
11:49 equipment in city facilities and turn
11:52 that over to electric equipment.
11:55 Um there are a couple other areas where
11:57 the assessment touches on. You'll see
11:59 this in a little bit. Um but it also
12:01 assessed uh renewable energy capacity of
12:04 city facilities. It also looked at
12:06 electrical capacity for EV charging at
12:08 city facilities. Um, and then I'll also
12:10 note that it did cover all city-owned
12:13 facilities which includes uh leased
12:15 buildings which are not um represented
12:19 in the municipal operations greenhouse
12:20 gas inventory. I can talk about that in
12:23 a little bit.
12:25 This again might be a familiar slide.
12:28 I've I've shown this one in the past,
12:30 but this is really just showing um the
12:33 multiple levels of facilities
12:35 assessments um that we've been doing
12:37 along with the facilities team and how
12:40 these facilities assessments um work
12:42 together to help us understand our
12:44 decarbonization pathways at city
12:46 facilities. The biggest circle, the
12:48 first thing we did was really it's
12:50 called benchmarking, which is really
12:52 just getting an understanding what is
12:53 the energy use at our facilities and
12:56 where the fuel transition assessment is.
12:58 It's kind of that smallest circle right
12:59 now, but it's after we've done
13:01 benchmarking, looked at the condition of
13:03 our facilities, looked at our energy um
13:06 use and the opportunities to find energy
13:08 efficiency, we went down to the fuel
13:11 transition assessment, which was a
13:12 deeper dive into um what would it
13:15 actually take to transition again off of
13:18 natural gas equipment to electric
13:20 equipment. There could be smaller
13:22 circles in here because um this
13:24 assessment was uh a high level look at
13:28 uh 70 pieces of equipment across civic
13:31 uh across all of our city facilities. Um
13:33 and a lot of that equipment uh
13:35 transition will require um some in uh
13:38 indepth design engineering analyses um
13:43 etc as we get into the actual work of
13:45 implementing this this plan.
13:50 So, the purpose of the assessment, the
13:52 reason we really did this is um there's
13:55 a couple reasons. One was to demonstrate
13:57 city leadership in climate action. Um we
14:00 want to make sure that we are leading by
14:02 example. We're not just telling people
14:03 to electrify their homes or to um take
14:08 uh climate action in in their own
14:10 personal lives. But the city really
14:11 wants to demonstrate that we are a
14:13 leader um in this as well. We are
14:17 advancing progress towards ICAP targets.
14:19 Um even though the city is a small
14:22 percentage of of uh citywide greenhouse
14:24 gas emissions, um everything that we can
14:26 do to bring down our own greenhouse gas
14:28 emissions helps us towards our city
14:30 targets. And then the third bit is to
14:33 help staff understand and get a sense
14:35 around what is it actually going to take
14:38 to implement efforts to electrify our
14:41 city buildings and develop renewable
14:42 energy projects.
14:46 Uh we this project covered 23 city-owned
14:50 facilities and as I mentioned before it
14:51 did cover city facilities that are owned
14:54 by the city um but operated by other
14:57 parties or leased out and for some of
14:59 those facilities um uh they are the ones
15:03 responsible the the leased entity is
15:05 responsible for some of the equipment
15:07 upgrades. So in that those cases, this
15:09 is to help us understand
15:12 um what are the opportunities when
15:14 leases are renewed, what are the
15:15 opportunities if um uh for those for the
15:20 the least agencies to think about um
15:22 when they do get to make changes to
15:24 their uh to the to our facilities, etc.
15:28 But we reviewed electrification of
15:30 existing fossil fuel equipment. Um there
15:33 was an assessment of facility electrical
15:35 capacity. So is there electrical
15:38 capacity to even consider electrifying
15:41 our equipment? Doing a high level solar
15:43 analysis for every single facility that
15:45 the city owns and then also looking at
15:48 opportunities for electric vehicle
15:50 infrastructure and then recommended
15:52 actions. um our contract, our consultant
15:55 was able to take a look at all of these
15:57 materials and look at it within the
15:58 context of other facilities assessment
16:00 we've done and make some recommendations
16:03 around what are some higher and lower
16:04 priority projects for us to consider.
16:08 When we got the report from uh uh
16:11 McDonald Miller, we uh did additional
16:14 analysis on it. So we I got to take all
16:17 of the data, all the information and we
16:19 were able to um evaluate cost to impact
16:23 ratios. So how much does a project cost
16:25 to compared to how much natural gas uh
16:28 reduction it would actually achieve for
16:29 us? Consider what are our priority
16:31 projects, right? So what are the
16:33 projects um that uh are the equipment is
16:38 is going to be failing soon or might
16:40 need to be replaced on a sooner timeline
16:42 than some others. And then we were also
16:44 able to look at the the assessment
16:46 within the context of other facilities
16:48 assessments to think about what is the
16:50 cost of electrification compared to a a
16:54 like forlike replacement of a natural
16:56 gas equipment or um you know compare
17:00 solar energy costs to the actual designs
17:03 that we are currently implementing.
17:05 So the top level takeaway here is that
17:08 we have with this fuel transition
17:10 assessment we have a highle baseline
17:12 understanding of what electrification
17:14 projects costs and electric uh
17:17 electrical needs are at different
17:19 facilities.
17:22 So now I'm going to jump into some of
17:24 the findings of the uh assessment.
17:29 So, some of the top takeaways here are
17:32 that the cost to transition city
17:33 equipment from natural gas to electric
17:36 is very significant. Um, our uh cost
17:40 estimates from the fuel transition
17:42 assessment are between 7 uh to $10.5
17:45 million to transition all equipment to
17:48 electric. And about half of that cost is
17:50 for the equipment itself along with
17:52 labor. And about half of that cost is
17:54 for the electrical upgrades that are
17:56 necessary. So you can think about, you
17:58 know, for the pool, uh, there's not
18:01 enough power there to, uh, actually put
18:03 in the equipment that would then heat up
18:05 that water. Um, so we would need to be
18:08 do quite a significant electrical
18:10 upgrade there to actually do this work.
18:12 Um,
18:14 I also want to note these costs, uh,
18:17 although significant are probably a
18:19 little low. There's a lot of other
18:20 factors, uh, coming into play. um
18:23 changes in uh cost of equipment um in in
18:28 recent months. There's also we would
18:31 have to do additional analyses and
18:33 structural analyses and engineering
18:35 analysis and everything else to make
18:37 sure that these projects are feasible um
18:39 that they can be implemented that
18:41 they're not going to hinder the
18:42 facilities and the operations of our
18:44 facilities as well. So, I do want to
18:46 just be careful also that um although
18:48 this is a significant amount of money,
18:50 it is likely an underestimate of how
18:53 much this would cost. It does cover 70
18:56 pieces of unique equipment across those
18:58 23 buildings. So, there is a lot of
19:00 equipment here that we're considering um
19:02 to transition.
19:04 Um along with um what the greenhouse gas
19:07 inventory showed, the Julius Bone Pool,
19:10 public works campus, and the community
19:12 center are our largest natural gas
19:13 users. So those three facilities are the
19:16 ones that we will need to address if we
19:18 are going to really um knock down our
19:21 natural gas used at city facilities. And
19:24 then the community center and city hall
19:26 are our two facilities that have to
19:28 comply um with uh tier 2 of the
19:32 statewide clean buildings act. So that's
19:35 just another level of considering what
19:37 does energy use uh at those facilities
19:39 look like.
19:43 Based on the additional analysis that
19:45 staff were able to do um we were able to
19:48 look at uh look at projects through
19:50 multiple different lenses. So one lens
19:53 was what are the projects um at the
19:55 facility facility level and at the
19:57 equipment level that have a high impact
20:00 on natural gas use compared to the cost
20:02 of the work that they're doing. So we've
20:04 identified a number of different
20:06 projects and I do want to note a number
20:07 of those are leased facilities. So again
20:10 those are some of the facilities we have
20:11 less control over. Um but there are also
20:14 a number of um uh facilities there that
20:18 are owned and operated by the city that
20:20 we get to um really dig into uh for
20:23 electrification.
20:25 Additionally, as I mentioned, overall
20:27 the the sites that have the largest
20:29 impact are going to be the pool, public
20:31 works campus, and the community center.
20:37 Next,
20:39 um, for city for solar energy potential,
20:43 we were able to look again across all of
20:45 our city facilities to see what is our
20:47 potential for solar energy generation
20:50 across the city uh um facilities. Um,
20:54 and our estimates are that we could put
20:56 about 1.1 megawatts of solar generation
20:59 capacity on our city facilities. Um, and
21:01 that would represent about 31% of all of
21:04 our city electrical use, current
21:06 electrical use. Now, we also have to
21:08 think about as we're electrifying our
21:09 equipment, our electric use increases,
21:12 but as of right now, this that would be
21:14 about 1.1 uh 31% of current electric
21:17 use. Again, the cost of implementing
21:20 that much solar is quite significant.
21:22 Um, 4.1 to 5.5 million. So um what staff
21:28 have been able to do um is think about
21:31 what does prioritization of these
21:32 projects look like? Where can we have um
21:36 higher investment um to uh impact ratio
21:41 more cost-effective projects? Where do
21:43 we have new roofs already so that we can
21:46 u prevent the situation of putting on
21:48 solar panels and taking them off as we
21:50 need to redo the roof and things like
21:52 that. And one of the things that we've
21:54 identified is that if we continue the
21:56 amount of investment that the city is
21:58 currently putting into solar energy
22:00 projects um in this bienium um we have a
22:04 couple projects that we think we can
22:05 accomplish. So specifically thinking
22:07 about the senior centering barn both of
22:10 which are current ongoing projects um
22:12 and then also putting in solar energy at
22:15 our public works campus.
22:18 Um, I did have a note here. If we were
22:20 to increase the investment that we're
22:22 putting into solar energy projects at
22:24 the city level, um, I'm estimating we
22:26 can probably include, um, additional
22:29 projects like, uh, uh, solar at city
22:31 hall, at our parks and facilities shop,
22:33 and at the Julius Bowen pool as well.
22:37 Some considerations for um, where where
22:40 we're thinking about putting in solar
22:42 energy is that facility use and planning
22:45 at city buildings is a flux, right? So,
22:48 um, we are making some changes at our
22:51 facilities. We're thinking about, um,
22:53 future use of city hall and general
22:56 government. And so, we want to be very
22:58 careful about investing in facilities,
23:01 um, where the city is going to be at for
23:02 a long time. And that way, um, again,
23:05 don't have to kind of make changes very
23:07 quickly after doing that. Additionally,
23:09 state support for clean energy seems
23:11 fairly secure right now. the clean the
23:13 um climate commitment act was um uh
23:17 preserved last year. Um but additional
23:19 support especially at the federal level
23:21 is uncertain. Um additionally uh
23:25 renewable energy projects need to be
23:26 coordinated very closely uh within
23:28 facility limitations and with other
23:30 facilities uh projects. So thinking
23:32 about uh the structural limitations of
23:34 our facilities, thinking about the
23:36 existing and future electric use, and
23:38 then also thinking about how we're
23:39 coordinating with our utility and how uh
23:42 their net metering and interconnection
23:44 rules work
23:47 for EV charging. Really the high level
23:50 takeaways here are um many of our
23:52 facilities do have current electrical
23:54 capacity for additional EV charging. Um
23:57 but if we're thinking about the uh DC
24:00 fast charging, we will have to do um a
24:02 lot of electrical upgrades.
24:04 Additionally, we'll have to continue to
24:06 think about there's capacity for many of
24:09 our buildings now, but if we're uh
24:11 transitioning equipment to electric,
24:13 that will take away some electrical
24:15 capacity that um and so we might need
24:17 electrical upgrades if we're planning to
24:19 put in EV charging. Additionally, it's
24:21 important to note that although
24:23 electrification of natural gas equipment
24:25 is a priority for us um and for the city
24:28 generally, there are many priorities
24:30 around electric use at city facilities.
24:33 Um it is a great example of um
24:36 additional equipment that might go in
24:38 that will use electricity. And so we do
24:40 have to balance electrification of
24:42 natural gas equipment with the other
24:44 priorities on uh electric capacity at
24:47 our facilities.
24:51 Um, so I'm going to next just kind of
24:54 highlight a couple of uh some of the
24:58 work that's been done with this
24:59 assessment so far. And so the first
25:02 piece here is just these are projects
25:05 from the fuel transition assessment that
25:07 have already been done, right? So these
25:09 are projects that have been implemented
25:11 and the hope is that we'll actually get
25:13 to see the impact of some of this on our
25:15 2024 greenhouse gas inventory. just some
25:18 of these. Um, but we've done work around
25:22 HVAC and water heater replacements on
25:24 installing heat pumps. Um, we've
25:27 installed uh I've mentioned before,
25:29 we've installed 17 new EV chargers
25:31 across multiple city facilities.
25:37 Great. We're almost done. Um for current
25:40 projects we are currently operating or
25:43 working on a solar system at Pickering
25:46 Barn and a solar and battery storage
25:47 system at the ASqua Senior Center. And
25:50 the one other one I want to highlight is
25:53 uh the community center. We're going to
25:55 be in 2026 we have a funded project to
25:58 replace the natural gas heating system
26:00 there for heat pumps. And so as I've
26:02 mentioned before that is one of our
26:04 three top natural gas users at this
26:06 facility at the city. And so um looking
26:09 to electrify that building is going to
26:11 have a significant dent in the city's
26:13 natural gas use.
26:16 And then all of these projects on the
26:19 slide are incorporated into our capital
26:22 improvement plan. So this was a lot of
26:26 the work that we did over the last
26:27 spring and summer is we worked very
26:29 closely with our facilities team. We
26:31 worked with our public works team and we
26:33 were able to enter in um uh into our
26:38 capital improvement plan um projects
26:40 ranging from water heater replacements
26:43 up to um electrification of the pool. I
26:47 do want to note that um many although
26:50 many of these projects are of these
26:51 projects are in the capital improvement
26:53 plan um there does need to be a lot of
26:55 work um additional work to identify
26:58 further funding sources conduct analyses
27:00 to make sure that they're feasible and
27:02 figure out how they're done um and then
27:04 also uh figure out kind of how um how
27:09 we're going to get electricity and all
27:10 this other stuff. So, a lot of work
27:12 still needs to be done, but getting them
27:13 into the capital improvement plan is a
27:15 great first step.
27:18 Timing and next step, we are currently
27:19 working on project implementation, and
27:21 we're going to continue working on
27:22 project implementation. The other pieces
27:24 on this slide are really just showing um
27:27 we have our budget coming up, the next
27:29 uh budget process coming up next year.
27:31 We're going to be working more projects
27:32 into that. And then the year after that,
27:34 we'll work on the CIP again, the capital
27:36 improvement plan. And that cycle is
27:38 going to continue. So, we're going to
27:39 continue to do these assessments. We're
27:41 going to continue to implement projects
27:43 and every year we're going to be working
27:45 these projects into um our budgets and
27:48 our capital improvement budgets.
27:51 So, uh the conclusions for this whole
27:54 project and this whole work are that
27:56 there we've identified some near-term
27:58 opportunities um that can help us reach
28:00 our near-term greenhouse gas reduction
28:02 targets that we can implement here and
28:04 now. And we are currently doing that.
28:06 Additionally, major natural gas
28:08 reduction is really costly, but it is
28:11 necessary for us to reach our long-term
28:13 greenhouse gas reduction targets. And so
28:16 that is just going to require planning
28:18 um and effort to to think long term
28:20 about. Additionally, this analysis,
28:22 that's a base understanding, but there
28:24 are a lot of other things that we'll
28:26 need to consider to actually make sure
28:27 that we can implement these projects
28:29 successfully. So, uh, we've been able to
28:31 take this, work these into our capital
28:33 improvement plans, think about them in
28:35 our our work plans, and it's helped us
28:37 understand what else do we need to know,
28:40 and those are the the uh avenues we're
28:42 working with our facilities team to
28:44 explore. Now,
28:46 that's it for this presentation.
28:50 That was quite a bit, so thank you for
28:52 bearing with me. Um, I'm happy to take
28:55 questions.
29:02 Uh so back in the day uh solar water
29:06 heating used to be a big thing and then
29:08 at that time I'm talking about 30 40
29:11 years ago it was way more efficient. You
29:14 would get you could buy a solar
29:15 collector that heated water for a tenth
29:18 or less than that of what it would take
29:21 photovoltaically. Of course solar cell
29:24 got way cheaper. I don't know is that
29:26 still a thing? Is that part of something
29:28 that has been analyzed for high the pool
29:33 is what I'm talking about? You need hot
29:34 water, lots of hot water and generating
29:37 electricity which you then use to heat
29:39 the water is probably going to cost more
29:43 of the photo voltage system that directs
29:46 sunlight to
29:48 warming the water.
29:50 Is that under consideration or law?
29:53 >> Yes. So solar hot water was not
29:55 considered as part of this study. We do
29:58 have one facility, fire station 72, had
30:00 solar hot water panels and um our
30:03 facilities team has not had great uh
30:06 relationships with those panels that
30:08 keep breaking on us. Um for the pool
30:11 specifically, I have not heard of solar
30:15 hot water heated pools of the size that
30:17 we have. Um we are looking to uh Seattle
30:20 is doing a lot of work around this um to
30:23 think about how they they can
30:24 decarbonize their pool. So we are
30:26 leaning a lot on kind of the work that
30:28 they're doing to think about um
30:31 electrification and reducing energy loss
30:33 of that pool so that we can um have
30:36 smaller systems there.
30:38 >> Thank you.
30:41 >> Um so David few questions here. So the
30:45 first one is um and I know you touched
30:49 on this a little bit you know the
30:50 question of the the whole
30:52 decarbonization electrification and the
30:56 the additional electricity demand right
30:59 >> does the decarbonization estimate um any
31:03 consideration for if PAC or you know any
31:07 other providers are actually able to
31:10 provide or the increasing electricity
31:13 demand And is it just PAC or are you
31:15 looking at additional providers or what
31:18 is the consideration there?
31:20 >> Yeah, so that's a great question. This
31:22 assessment did not look at um energy
31:24 availability through PSSE. Um
31:27 excuse me. Um Belleview is looking at
31:30 energy capacity in the future with PSSE.
31:33 So they're conducting an assessment that
31:35 we're going to be looking very closely
31:37 at to think about um what is energy
31:40 availability for us uh uh down the line.
31:44 Um that is one of the things that could
31:46 be a major barrier for some of these
31:48 projects, right? Is if we say we've got
31:50 all the money and we're ready to go and
31:52 if PSC says hey sorry we don't have the
31:54 money for you to electrify your pool or
31:56 public works campus uh or the energy for
31:59 that then then that will be a hiccup for
32:01 us. And so that is part of kind of those
32:03 additional assessments, those long-term
32:05 conversations
32:07 um is talking with PSSE about what we're
32:09 planning to do and what we're hoping to
32:11 do and getting those conversations for
32:13 electrical upgrades going early so that
32:15 we can identify if there are any
32:17 problems with that. The one other thing
32:19 that I'll say is um the renewable energy
32:21 piece can help mitigate some of that
32:23 energy um demand. So if it's done uh
32:29 we're doing it right, you know, you
32:30 could put on some renewable energy on
32:33 some sites and that can reduce uh the
32:36 demand and and potentially reduce the uh
32:39 electrical upgrades necessary. So um
32:41 that's one other small consideration,
32:43 but for the most part, especially when
32:45 it comes to the pool or public works
32:47 campus for instance, it's not going to
32:49 be um it's not going to make the a huge
32:53 difference in kind of those electrical
32:54 upgrades necessarily,
32:55 >> right? So I would suggest not only
32:57 because it will be a barrier but I think
32:59 the costs also can vary significantly
33:03 based on what the availability of the
33:05 electricity is. So you know that would
33:07 be something you want to closely monitor
33:09 or closely keep bringing it up. Um and
33:12 the second point was um so you said um
33:16 the renewable energy right I'm guessing
33:18 you don't have any real estimates on how
33:21 much of the renewable energy will be
33:24 able to meet how much of the electricity
33:26 demand do you do? We based on our
33:30 assessment, we think um if we were to
33:33 install all of the renewable energy, we
33:35 think we could um it would meet about
33:38 31% of our current electric demands. But
33:40 then again, as we're electrifying, that
33:43 electric demand will okay
33:44 >> increase quite a bit.
33:45 >> So that's good to know. Um then the
33:48 other question was do you have any
33:51 successful solar energy projects in the
33:54 works or you know getting towards
33:56 completion in the city of Isma?
33:59 >> Yes. So um before this year um the
34:03 city's last successful solar energy
34:06 project was at fire station 72 which was
34:08 installed in 2011 I think. Um this year
34:12 we are in the very final process of um
34:16 contracting for a solar system at Picker
34:18 and Barn. Um and then we're getting
34:21 ready um and that's funded through a mix
34:23 of city funds, grant funds, and then tax
34:26 rebates from the federal government. And
34:28 then uh we have another project, a solar
34:32 and battery storage project at the West
34:34 Senior Center, which is fully funded
34:36 through the Washington State Department
34:37 of Commerce. Um and we are getting ready
34:41 to put that project out for proposals
34:44 soon as well. And so that project will
34:46 happen um in 2026 for the most part. So
34:50 the fire station 72 which is you know
34:52 which was installed in 2011 you do have
34:55 good data from that to see how much you
34:58 are actually um what I'm getting at to
35:01 my last question you know I because just
35:04 because the costs are too high I was
35:06 wondering if this um study involves any
35:10 analysis of cost to benefit ratio in
35:13 terms of when you will actually rec
35:15 recoup the full money for
35:17 decarbonization as well as a solar
35:19 projects because having that visibility
35:22 and a clear confident analysis of that
35:25 will help you you know actually proceed
35:28 further right.
35:29 >> Yes. So for the renewable energy piece,
35:32 we did do um payback analysis of you
35:36 know if a project costs between X amount
35:39 and Y amount um what is the payback
35:41 years the estimated payback years um
35:44 once we've implemented that project? A
35:47 lot depends on those federal tax uh
35:50 credits and those were uh many of them
35:54 were cut as part of the the bill this
35:56 summer, the federal bill this summer. So
35:58 that will impact things for sure. Um,
36:01 one of the things that we're still
36:02 hoping on and we've seen success on is
36:04 getting grants from the state government
36:06 which will help make those paybacks much
36:09 shorter. Um, and we're hoping, right,
36:11 that u say for the senior center
36:13 project, right, all of the money that
36:15 we're saving in in uh avoided electrical
36:18 costs get to go right back into our
36:19 programming at that site. So that has
36:22 been a part of the renewable energy
36:24 analysis.
36:26 um the payback for the other equipment.
36:30 Um we didn't quite do a payback um
36:33 analysis for that because most of that
36:35 equipment doesn't pay for itself, but um
36:37 we did do analysis on kind of like what
36:39 is the the cost differential between
36:42 like for like natural gas equipment and
36:45 um what are the best um ratios of cost
36:49 to impact things like that.
36:51 Yeah. Yeah, I think that would be good.
36:54 And seems like, you know, because of the
36:56 changes in the bills or federal tax
36:58 credit, it's this will be always kind of
37:00 a moving target, which I can understand
37:03 makes it really hard because um but at
37:06 the same time, you know, I think it all
37:09 boils down to actually how much is the
37:11 cost and how you're going to sustain it,
37:14 right? That's it's all about that. So,
37:16 yeah, I think I think you guys are doing
37:18 great. Thank you. All
37:21 right,
37:23 questions.
37:25 >> Is there ever been any studies on the
37:27 pool as to its energy use uh through
37:31 different months of the year?
37:33 And have you ever considered shutting
37:35 the pool down for say the winter months?
37:40 I yes, we review the energy use of the
37:45 pool. Um we have had energy and analyses
37:49 done of the pool kind of looking at um
37:55 of at how their energies kind of looks
37:57 over the year over a day things like
37:59 that. We've considered opportunities and
38:02 what's not included in this is those
38:03 energy efficiency measures. So, one
38:05 project that we're um also actively
38:08 working on right now is to implement
38:10 pool covers at the the pool, which would
38:11 actually help save quite a lot of
38:13 natural gas energy because it helps the
38:15 prevent the release of of heat from the
38:18 pool. Um, so we are looking at those
38:20 energy efficiency opportunities there as
38:22 well. Um, I cannot say that I've ever
38:26 heard anybody talk about shutting the
38:27 pool down over winter. And my guess is
38:30 that there is still significant use of
38:33 the pool throughout winter.
38:36 >> Swim itself on the high school.
38:38 >> Yeah. You just It seems like a very
38:43 uh thermally expensive.
38:45 it capita
38:50 place for for the city to maintain
38:54 um and
38:58 you know we just sometimes we just need
38:59 to consume less and I've done some
39:03 studies in my past on heating and
39:05 ventilation systems for pools and it
39:08 just there's just not they just suck to
39:11 eat huge is it
39:16 um far greater uh than say the community
39:19 center in consumption.
39:21 >> Yeah. So the pool represents about 50%
39:24 of the natural gas use of city.
39:26 >> A little less a little less. when you
39:28 think about the number of people
39:31 that's
39:32 I I just to me that just I mean I feel
39:38 like throwing a chocolate bar in the
39:40 pool, you know, to to shut it down. But
39:44 um you know, if you really want to save
39:49 greenhouse gases, you could shut it down
39:52 in the winter time for say three or four
39:54 months. And just that's what people do
39:58 when they have pools. A lot of people
40:00 who have outdoor pools, they only use
40:02 them in the summertime. So there
40:06 50% is a lot per 48.
40:11 >> You think about per capita usage.
40:18 Any other comments, questions,
40:22 right? Thank you.
40:24 >> Thank you.
40:25 Um I am going to jump over to my next
40:29 slide show.
40:34 for this one
40:38 we are going to be getting into some
40:41 proposed updates and I'm going to be
40:42 talking about what some of those
40:44 proposed updates are. Um, uh, for this
40:47 presentation, I'm happy to take
40:49 questions as we go if folks have
40:51 questions about specific pieces, um, of
40:53 it, just so we can kind of dive a little
40:55 deeper in. Can I just
40:57 >> Yes, go for it.
40:58 >> Um, just wanted to briefly mention, Don
41:01 said this in the intro, but we will
41:03 eventually be taking action on this
41:05 item. That was going to be a
41:07 consideration for tonight if the board
41:09 was ready to move forward. Given the
41:11 smallest group, we think it's best
41:13 probably to have the discussion, get
41:15 your own input. Um, I will reach out to
41:18 the board members that are not here, ask
41:20 them to review the video, contact David
41:22 if they have questions. We do really,
41:26 um, we would really like to take action
41:28 in our October meeting because that will
41:31 keep us on track for council approval
41:34 before the end of the year, which we're
41:35 trying to wrap this up before the end of
41:38 the year and transition in council. So,
41:41 um, that being said, please share your
41:44 comments tonight, your feedback. We can
41:46 meet with you oneonone in between the
41:48 meetings, but, um, the hope is to take
41:50 action on this next meeting if if the
41:53 board's ready to do so.
41:58 So, um this next presentation is uh to
42:02 uh consider and and uh look at uh
42:06 proposed updates to the sustainable
42:08 building and infrastructure policy at
42:10 this city. So, um you might remember
42:14 this did come to the board. Uh Cascadia
42:17 Consulting brought um their draft
42:20 recommendation to the board early this
42:22 year. Um and they ended up taking uh the
42:27 environmental board's recommendations um
42:29 recommendations from the senior
42:31 leadership team putting together a
42:32 report and then based on that report um
42:35 city staff were able to um have created
42:38 um proposed updates to this polic policy
42:41 and I believe in the uh packet you have
42:44 both redlined version of the policy
42:46 clean version of the policy and uh maybe
42:49 the old version of the policy as well.
42:51 So um hopefully that uh was not too too
42:55 confusing there.
42:58 So some context uh about this policy.
43:01 The existing sustainable building and
43:03 infrastructure policy was adopted in
43:05 2004. So it's 21 years old at this
43:08 point. Um and it was updating this
43:11 policy was recommended in both the 2018
43:13 sustainable building action strategy as
43:15 well as called out as an action within
43:18 the climate action plan. Um and so we
43:21 are we are trying to actually accomplish
43:24 it at this time and and um put together
43:27 a policy that we think will help us uh
43:30 move forward with thinking about uh
43:32 buildings and infrastructure.
43:34 Buildings as you saw in our uh my
43:36 previous presentation are the primary
43:38 source of greenhouse gas emissions in
43:40 government operations around 48% 2022.
43:44 Um and then as I mentioned in fall and
43:47 spring, Cascadia Consulting develops uh
43:49 recommendations for uh updating the the
43:52 building and infrastructure policy.
43:56 So diving into those recommendations,
44:01 um the first recommendation was to
44:03 pursue a phased approach to an updated
44:06 policy.
44:08 So this recommendation recognizes um
44:11 staff capacity, budgetary constraints
44:14 and the training necessary to really
44:17 support um incorporating sustainability
44:21 practices into our uh work with city
44:24 facilities as well as our work with
44:26 infrastructure. And one of the reasons
44:29 around this as well is many of the facil
44:31 the cities uh and jurisdictions that
44:33 have um really robust uh building and
44:37 infrastructure policy policy sustainable
44:39 building and infrastructure policies are
44:41 much larger than the city of Isiqua.
44:43 They might have um dedicated staff
44:45 members specifically to these types of
44:48 policies etc. So their first
44:50 recommendation is a phased approach to
44:52 implementation and to focus on some of
44:54 those early wins that we can accomplish
44:57 to pilot projects and really try out the
45:00 ways that we can incorporate these
45:02 principles into projects.
45:04 The second recommendation is to build
45:07 staff and project capacity for
45:09 implementation. Again, that's thinking
45:10 about pilot projects. It's thinking
45:12 about staff training. Um it's thinking
45:14 about how can the sustainability team
45:17 really support departments and staff
45:19 across the city um so that we can
45:22 incorporate these sustainability
45:23 principles into uh projects across the
45:27 city.
45:29 And so the idea here is that uh from
45:31 from Cascadia was to uh build capacity
45:34 over the next couple years, evaluate,
45:37 see how we're doing, and continue to try
45:39 and build on that as we're going over
45:41 the next um uh five years.
45:47 Before I dive too deep into the policy
45:49 updates, um one item that I want to just
45:52 note is that um the policy update is
45:55 focused on um municipal building and
45:59 infrastructure projects. The original
46:01 policy from 2004 talks about both
46:03 municipal projects and communitywide
46:05 projects. Um the idea with this policy
46:09 update is to focus it on the city
46:12 operations of our projects um with
46:14 buildings and our projects with
46:16 infrastructure. So thinking parks,
46:18 roads, uh pump stations and things like
46:20 that and really addressing the
46:22 communitywide
46:24 um regulations and policies around
46:26 sustainable building and infrastructure
46:28 in our city code. So thinking that would
46:31 be title 18, title 16, and a couple
46:34 other areas there. So as you'll see, the
46:36 proposed policy updates are really
46:38 focused on what are we going to do at
46:40 the city for these projects.
46:44 So the first set of changes are to
46:47 formalize sustainability team support
46:49 for uh for sustainable building and
46:53 infrastructure projects across the city.
46:55 That looks like um supporting uh budget
46:58 development, having sustainability have
47:00 a seat at the table with departments
47:02 across the city to incorporate and
47:04 support um the incorporation of
47:06 sustainability principles and ideas into
47:09 um into budgets. So that when projects
47:12 come around, there is the budget to make
47:14 these projects happen. as you saw in my
47:16 previous presentation for uh facilities
47:19 electrification projects very costly and
47:21 so planning ahead with that uh with
47:24 sustainability team support is is going
47:26 to be really crucial to think about how
47:28 do we make sure that there's enough
47:29 funds that we can implement these
47:31 projects successfully.
47:33 Additionally, um sustainability
47:36 identified u identifies funding and
47:39 support for staff training. thinking
47:41 about um as uh much as we like to
47:44 support staff across departments, really
47:47 diving deep into sustainability
47:48 principles for infrastructure projects
47:50 will require additional staff training
47:52 for engineers and for um the folks who
47:56 are going to be out really leading these
47:58 projects across the city. And then the
48:00 final piece here is setting up an
48:02 evaluation uh process and timeline for
48:05 this policy. The goal here again is that
48:08 we're not sitting here in 20 more years
48:10 saying we have to update a policy for
48:12 2025, but we're actually actively
48:14 looking at it and thinking about how is
48:16 this policy working, what is it doing,
48:19 what are our uh successes, what are our
48:21 challenges and how do we change this
48:23 policy to support those uh changes.
48:27 So the first set of changes again is
48:29 around formalizing
48:32 our sustainability team support for
48:34 departments across the city.
48:36 That sustainability team is you too.
48:39 >> That sustainability team is us too.
48:43 >> Um yes and then the idea is you know as
48:47 support and training and everything
48:49 grows across departments.
48:52 >> Hopefully yeah we we can take a step
48:54 back where possible.
48:58 >> The second set of uh changes is related
49:01 to sustainability guidance for new
49:03 buildings and major retrofits. So, uh
49:05 this was a gap identified in the 2004
49:08 policy uh where it only really covered
49:11 um uh large facilities or or medium to
49:15 large facilities and it actually
49:16 recommended that um projects get lead
49:19 silver um certification which was um is
49:23 a little outdated with our city code.
49:25 And so the new proposed changes identify
49:29 um what the requirements would be if the
49:32 city tackles small facilities projects
49:34 which are identified as 5,000 ft and
49:36 under medium projects which are 5,000 to
49:39 10,000 ft and then large facility
49:41 projects. On the small side um the focus
49:46 is on encouraging sustainability
49:48 principles in design and implementation.
49:50 For medium projects, it's to align uh
49:54 those projects with lead platinum um but
49:56 not actually requiring certification.
49:59 Instead requiring that we document it
50:01 internally and really keep an eye on on
50:04 uh incorporating um those principles
50:08 into the project. And the idea there is
50:10 to allow a little bit of flexibility and
50:11 reduce the costs associated with
50:13 certification at SEAL. And then for
50:16 large facility projects, it aligns with
50:18 our city code which is currently lead
50:20 platinum. And then to encourage going
50:23 beyond that code where we can. And one
50:25 note again, I mentioned this in my
50:26 previous conversation, we do have some
50:28 facilities projects coming up. And so
50:31 updating these changes, updating this
50:33 policy now is likely going to we'll be
50:36 able to test out how it's um working in
50:39 the next uh five plus years as we tackle
50:44 those larger facility projects.
50:50 >> Yeah.
50:51 >> Um so David, couple of questions. So are
50:54 any funding changes
50:57 or the bill changes or anything did it
50:59 affect your sustainability policy
51:02 support for the staff basically?
51:06 >> Um and by uh bill changes like at the
51:09 federal level.
51:10 >> Yeah. Or is there any funding changes h
51:13 has it affected or you guys are just
51:15 continuing to work as before? That was
51:17 the question.
51:18 >> It's a great question. Um we for the
51:21 most part are are continuing as we were
51:24 before. Um I think the uncertainty with
51:30 funding at the federal level and kind of
51:32 what that is going to be doing to state
51:36 and local budgets um has generated some
51:42 careful thinking among city leadership
51:45 for policies like this. trying to make
51:47 sure that um flexibility is built into
51:50 these so that we can not lose sight of
51:54 our climate goals but also so that we um
51:58 can work really hard to uh do what we
52:01 can within our budget constraints. And
52:02 so you know a good example of that is
52:04 with medium facility projects by not
52:06 requiring certification for lead. it
52:08 does cut down on the project costs but
52:12 what we have here is that we still have
52:13 to align with lead platinum um and we'll
52:16 be documenting that internally just not
52:18 going through that certification process
52:20 so I would say the long answer is we're
52:24 still forging ahead but it has it is
52:27 definitely a concern for for departments
52:30 city leadership
52:32 >> um and you mentioned that there was
52:34 phased implementation of this policy so
52:37 I just wanted to know at what means has
52:41 the phased implementation already
52:43 started and are any of the steps already
52:47 implemented or it's still you know in
52:50 future.
52:51 >> Yeah. So when we're talking about phased
52:53 implementation and and you'll see a
52:55 little bit of this later for some of the
52:56 other topics but part of what we're
52:59 thinking about is say for facilities
53:02 projects um we have kind of the separate
53:05 buckets for small facilities, medium
53:06 facilities, large facilities and um as
53:10 we evaluate the use of this policy once
53:13 it's implemented um if we don't find
53:16 that say the um no certification
53:20 required for medium-sized facilities is
53:22 working. That's when we might say go
53:25 back to council and say, "Look, this is
53:27 not working. What we actually need to do
53:28 is strengthen the policy here or
53:31 identifying other areas where we can
53:33 strengthen and and build out the policy
53:36 um in the next iteration as we're
53:38 evaluating its use. So, nothing in this
53:42 new policy has been implemented yet
53:44 other than just kind of what staff are
53:46 already doing. Um, but the policy has
53:49 not been adopted yet. So no nothing has
53:51 been phased in yet.
53:52 >> And so the sustainable purchasing policy
53:54 members
53:56 have in place or are working on is it a
53:58 part of this or that's a completely
54:00 separate thing.
54:01 >> It's a great question. The way I see it
54:04 is that this policy is actually nestled
54:06 under the sustainable purchasing policy.
54:08 Sustainable purchasing policy is very
54:10 broad overarching saying any city
54:13 purchasing decision we need to be
54:15 considering uh sustainability, equity
54:18 and um economics in those decisions. And
54:22 the way I see it is this policy gets
54:24 into more details around well what are
54:26 we doing actually when it comes to
54:28 facilities or infrastructure projects
54:30 itself or equipment change out projects.
54:34 Um and so I see uh this policy leaning
54:40 on the sustainable purchasing policy as
54:42 additional support for why the decisions
54:44 are going to be made.
54:46 >> So the reason the thing I was getting at
54:48 is you know see this is a long-term
54:50 process.
54:52 >> Um but and I understand the phased
54:55 implementation implementation I
54:57 understand the burdens and you know the
54:59 uncertainty and everything. What I was
55:01 getting at is some of the especially
55:03 sustainable purchasing policy material
55:06 like materials or items should be a
55:10 no-brainer that this needs to switch to
55:12 this and have you guys started working
55:15 on that or is there any progress on
55:17 those kinds of things you know which
55:19 would be a simple swap which doesn't
55:22 have to wait for 10 years to you know
55:24 come into effect.
55:30 yes. Um so the sustainable purchasing
55:33 policy covers everything from paper to
55:38 new facilities, right? Um it does not
55:42 specifically call out items that must go
55:45 from A to B. Um but through use of that
55:49 policy we are
55:53 doing things like um
55:56 um thinking about the some of those easy
55:59 win switches right like compostable
56:02 um compostable event uh serviceware and
56:06 things like that. Um we are uh thinking
56:09 about how we can have formalize this as
56:12 well but we're we're trying to do it
56:13 where we can um you know uh purchasing
56:17 reviewing electric vehicles and hybrid
56:19 vehicles before other vehicles right so
56:22 there are those
56:25 somewhat simpler um choices that can be
56:29 made and and generally I would say for
56:31 this policy it's thinking about more
56:34 complex projects themselves. So, new
56:37 buildings as a whole or full
56:40 infrastructure projects like a a park,
56:43 you know, a re- retrofit project or a
56:46 new uh street, you know, project or
56:48 something like that.
56:50 >> Okay.
56:50 >> Does that help answer the question?
56:51 >> Yeah.
56:52 >> Thank you.
56:55 >> Yeah. John, it seems like this policy
56:58 when I sit here, it seems like it's
57:00 geared primarily for structures and
57:02 buildings. Mhm.
57:03 >> Um will the policy also cover property
57:06 and grounds for example like canopy and
57:10 wetlands and permeability of surfaces
57:13 things like that like um uh not just
57:18 creation of greenhouse gases but but um
57:23 preserving canopy for example or or like
57:28 permeability like I've heard people
57:30 talking about putting aster fields,
57:33 things like that. Are we
57:35 >> is that part of the policy too?
57:37 >> It is. And I'll we'll be getting to the
57:40 infrastructure side in a minute. But I
57:42 will say for the facilities when we
57:44 think about lead sustainability
57:46 principles that would be going into it.
57:48 Um there are sections of lead that are
57:50 specifically focused on the building
57:52 energy use for instance. But there are
57:54 also sections around um the building
57:57 envelope, the building grounds, where
57:59 you're placing buildings, um permeable
58:02 surface, things like that. And so
58:04 >> it's covered in the pulse. it it's
58:06 covered in kind of how lead works
58:08 generally is it it kind of looks
58:10 holistically around the whole
58:11 construction project. Um and then as
58:14 you'll see in a little bit the
58:15 infrastructure projects um we'll be
58:18 using a uh a tool called Envision and
58:20 that specifically D might have been
58:22 trained in that um but that specifically
58:25 looks at uh principles that you're
58:28 talking about as it relates to the
58:30 non-building type projects
58:33 >> and city facilities and infrastructure
58:35 do need to comply with city code as
58:38 well. So, some of those items you were
58:40 mentioning would probably be covered in
58:42 city code, but this would help fill the
58:44 gap or take it beyond city.
58:47 >> Okay.
58:52 >> So, the next change is very specific to
58:55 facilities for the most part. Um, and
58:57 this change is m modeled after the
58:59 Pierce County Electric First Policy. Um,
59:02 it's a actually a small part of the
59:04 policy, but really what it is saying is
59:07 that if we're ever replacing fossil fuel
59:10 equipment in our facilities, we have to
59:12 at least
59:14 assess the feasibility of
59:16 electrification of that equipment. So,
59:18 what that is really saying is taking the
59:19 fuel transition assessment, going a
59:21 little bit deeper than that, and saying,
59:23 "Hey, we're going to be replacing a uh a
59:26 pool water heater or we're going to be
59:27 replacing a HVAC system in uh a
59:31 building." Before we make any decisions
59:34 around whether or not we're going to
59:36 replace it with natural gas, we must
59:39 look at whether or not what it would
59:42 look like to electrify. So, this is
59:44 modeled after that policy and is really
59:46 just put in place to um provide a little
59:49 bit of a kick to um require looking at
59:53 electric feasibility before replacing
59:55 fossil fuel equipment with more fossil
59:56 fuel equipment.
1:00:00 Here's where we get to the
1:00:01 infrastructure type projects. Um and so
1:00:04 our previous policy didn't have as much
1:00:07 information around uh infrastructure
1:00:09 projects. It was a big uh gap. And so
1:00:13 this is an area where kind of that you
1:00:15 can see the phased in approach, right?
1:00:16 So um we've set as part of the proposed
1:00:20 changes envision as the standard for
1:00:22 sustainable infrastructure projects. We
1:00:25 looked at a couple of different of these
1:00:27 evaluation tools and a envision is one
1:00:30 that is like lead. It's a certification
1:00:33 that you can get that covers um
1:00:35 sustainability principles for
1:00:37 infrastructure projects. Um and it's
1:00:39 used nationally. King County has its own
1:00:42 homegrown uh inf sustainable
1:00:45 infrastructure scorecard. Um but we felt
1:00:48 like the Envision uh standard provided a
1:00:51 little bit more um it was a little bit
1:00:53 easier for us to use. Um it had this
1:00:56 national support whereas the King County
1:00:58 uh uh u scorecard has specific staff
1:01:03 members dedicated to it at King County
1:01:05 and and so therefore it doesn't quite
1:01:07 have the support that um this national
1:01:09 standard has. So, we've incorporated
1:01:12 references to Envision as that standard
1:01:14 for sustainable infrastructure projects
1:01:16 and we've required as part of this
1:01:18 policy a pilot project using Envision um
1:01:21 by the end of 2027.
1:01:24 So that would require working with our
1:01:25 parks team or with our public works team
1:01:28 for the most part to identify which
1:01:30 project we can really test this um this
1:01:34 standard on this certification on see
1:01:37 how it works. Work closely with those um
1:01:40 staff to try and figure out how can this
1:01:43 how will this apply for that project and
1:01:45 how are we going to try and apply it for
1:01:47 other projects. Additionally, I'm going
1:01:49 to mention this is another area where
1:01:50 staff training comes into play. Um, as I
1:01:52 mentioned, I know many folks at
1:01:54 Belleview were trained on the Envision
1:01:56 uh toolkit and the standard. Um, and so
1:01:58 staff training on Envision and other
1:02:00 sustainable infrastructure best
1:02:02 practices are going to be really key
1:02:03 here as we think about making sure that
1:02:06 our public works team, our parks team,
1:02:08 uh, and other staff across the city
1:02:10 understand how these certifications work
1:02:12 and understand how to incorporate these
1:02:14 sustainable infrastructure best
1:02:16 practices into their work.
1:02:19 >> What is it, Vision? Is it a software
1:02:21 tool or
1:02:22 >> no? So, are you familiar with lead or
1:02:25 buildings?
1:02:25 >> No.
1:02:26 >> Um, so lead looking at the building and
1:02:29 how you build the building. Um, using
1:02:31 sustainable products, using sustainable
1:02:33 energy like you were talking about, how
1:02:35 you sight it um how you
1:02:39 know impervious versus purious surfaces,
1:02:42 how you site those, keeping trees and
1:02:44 stuff. Invision kind of takes one step
1:02:46 further out on that and looks at how you
1:02:49 actually manage the entire project from
1:02:51 start to finish. So,
1:02:52 >> okay. So, it's like a pol set policies
1:02:55 >> No, it's just kind of like looking from
1:02:56 all the all the way from when you're
1:02:59 even thinking about what property you
1:03:00 purchase, you know, are you going to
1:03:02 purchase a brownlands versus a native
1:03:05 area to build your building on?
1:03:07 >> Okay. Um or if you have a property that
1:03:09 has some native area on it that's that's
1:03:11 nice. How do you work your facility in
1:03:14 so you avoid impacts to that? It's it
1:03:17 takes one step back and it's not as
1:03:19 technical as the lead process. It's not
1:03:22 the lead process is done by the
1:03:24 architect firms typically where the
1:03:26 envision processes can be done by we had
1:03:30 50 60 staff members that went through
1:03:32 it. Everybody speaks the same language
1:03:34 when we hear about projects on it. Okay.
1:03:37 >> And uh as you guys said, it's a great
1:03:39 training tool and then you know you can
1:03:42 you can kind of direct everybody across
1:03:45 the city to to think this route when
1:03:47 you're building anything.
1:03:48 >> Okay. So it's a it's a process.
1:03:51 >> Yeah.
1:03:52 >> And the way lead and envision work is
1:03:55 you can certify a project through lead
1:03:58 or envision.
1:03:59 >> And the way that'll work, right, is
1:04:00 you'll get a you know the simple way to
1:04:03 explain it will be like there's
1:04:04 sections, right? So um that you can get
1:04:07 points in and you you know if you get a
1:04:09 certain amount of points you're
1:04:10 certified envision project or you're a
1:04:12 certified lead project. Um and the way
1:04:15 you get those points is by incorporating
1:04:18 different types of sustainability
1:04:20 principles into that project. Again
1:04:22 looking at water use permeable surface
1:04:25 what property you're buying and how
1:04:28 you're putting multimmodal transit
1:04:30 around it. You know all all of these
1:04:32 pieces kind of come together. And so
1:04:35 importantly cons compared to the fuel
1:04:37 transition assessment both envision and
1:04:40 lead are much more holistic beyond just
1:04:43 energy use uh greenhouse gas emissions
1:04:46 but thinking about um our natural
1:04:49 systems. How are our projects could um
1:04:52 creating as minimal impact or positive
1:04:54 impacts as possible on our natural
1:04:56 systems? um how it's helping the broader
1:05:00 community um and the health and
1:05:02 well-being of our community, things like
1:05:04 that. So, there's a lot of pieces that
1:05:06 go into these um certification tools and
1:05:09 their um their tools and processes to
1:05:13 help guide staff thinking as as
1:05:15 >> in their use nationwide.
1:05:17 >> Both their use nationwide
1:05:18 >> a national database for both lead and
1:05:20 envision where you put projects in and
1:05:22 you know get celebrated on this
1:05:25 database.
1:05:26 You'll often see it a lot of times
1:05:27 you're walking around on new buildings.
1:05:29 You'll see a little lead certification
1:05:30 plaque out on the front process.
1:05:34 >> It is fun. You can kind of keep an eye
1:05:36 >> so I can Google this and learn more.
1:05:37 >> Yes. Yes. LEAD is the biggest one
1:05:41 probably especially for buildings. There
1:05:43 are other certification systems for
1:05:45 buildings and especially for different
1:05:46 types of buildings like built green for
1:05:49 residential facilities, things like
1:05:51 that. Um there are many fewer of these
1:05:54 certification systems for infrastructure
1:05:56 projects and that was kind of part of
1:05:58 the challenge is that um
1:06:02 it it is a newer field versus you know
1:06:05 the the facilities certification
1:06:08 projects which have been around for for
1:06:10 a very long time.
1:06:11 >> I'll send out some links for both leaden
1:06:14 and vision folks.
1:06:19 Um the final policy changes here are uh
1:06:24 related to waste diversion pro
1:06:26 practices. So um we felt like while
1:06:29 we're updating this policy, we might as
1:06:32 well and we definitely want to increase
1:06:34 our um ability to uh manage our waste um
1:06:39 in as as responsible a manner as we can.
1:06:42 So these were policy changes suggested
1:06:44 by and and advocated for by uh Sam
1:06:47 Tarbin, our solid waste analyst. And
1:06:49 these are really set around um setting
1:06:52 diversion goals for construction and
1:06:54 demolition projects um across that the
1:06:57 city does establishing waste audit
1:06:59 timelines for all city facilities. So
1:07:02 looking at what waste is being produced
1:07:04 at those facilities and how can we uh uh
1:07:08 improve diversion rates at those
1:07:10 facilities where possible and then
1:07:12 mandating waste reduction and source
1:07:14 separation of solid waste in city
1:07:16 facilities. So again that's looking at
1:07:18 um reducing the overall waste that we're
1:07:20 producing in city facilities and also
1:07:22 separating it out into recycling compost
1:07:25 and um garbage as well. So those have
1:07:28 also been worked in and we're trying to
1:07:30 build uh throughout this whole update
1:07:32 process a little bit more of a holistic
1:07:34 policy that addresses waste
1:07:36 infrastructure, city facilities, um
1:07:39 equipment change outs, etc. So um kind
1:07:42 of working it all into one cohesive
1:07:44 policy.
1:07:45 >> Your waste diversion practices would
1:07:47 apply to existing maintenance practices
1:07:49 as well as when you redevelop.
1:07:51 >> Correct.
1:07:52 >> Yes.
1:07:54 Exactly. So this this would go into play
1:07:56 for all city facilities right away. Most
1:07:59 of the facilities policies are um
1:08:03 related to when we're doing major
1:08:05 changes to facilities or making new
1:08:07 building new facilities. Not all of them
1:08:10 but most of them. Um but this would
1:08:11 again be all facilities right away.
1:08:17 So the conclusion I have here these are
1:08:19 um these are changes that we're
1:08:21 proposing. I'm I'm open to feedback and
1:08:24 excited to kind of hear what the
1:08:25 environmental board um thinks about
1:08:27 this. One note I do want to mention and
1:08:30 and to John's point because this is
1:08:32 looking beyond just uh energy use and
1:08:35 greenhouse gas emissions, thinking about
1:08:37 evaluating a policy like this is quite
1:08:40 difficult because what we're looking at
1:08:42 is how are we incorporating sust
1:08:44 sustainability principles holistically
1:08:46 into projects, right? That impact um our
1:08:50 natural system, our community
1:08:52 well-being, our energy use, water use,
1:08:54 all of these different pieces. and
1:08:57 thinking about it um for very varied
1:09:00 projects. Everything from a dog park
1:09:03 type uh park project up to a new city
1:09:06 building, right? And so um I do want to
1:09:10 just note that that the evaluation of
1:09:12 this policy is built into the policy
1:09:14 itself, but it is just a kind of a
1:09:17 difficult task to tackle and uh one that
1:09:20 we're really excited to be doing as we
1:09:22 move forward. So, I have a couple
1:09:26 questions for discussion. Um, first, I'm
1:09:28 happy to take any general questions
1:09:30 about the proposed updates and changes.
1:09:33 Um, second, do you have any does the
1:09:35 environmental board have any feedback on
1:09:37 the proposed changes? And then finally,
1:09:39 are there anything uh additional changes
1:09:42 that are not included in the policy that
1:09:44 you'd like to see us explore?
1:09:52 Uh well so in the last section there you
1:09:54 talk about waste diversion but you
1:09:56 didn't enumerate what specific changes
1:09:59 you're proposing for the waste version.
1:10:02 So I I don't know I can't comment on
1:10:05 whether you're going far enough with
1:10:07 that or not.
1:10:09 >> Is that within scope to talk about now?
1:10:12 >> Yeah, let me pull it up so I get my
1:10:16 numbers right.
1:10:22 I have to find a specific connection.
1:10:24 >> Share that as we get into the
1:10:26 discussion.
1:10:29 >> Yes, I can share this.
1:10:32 You can see me scroll.
1:10:39 Sorry.
1:10:45 There we go. Okay. Got it.
1:11:02 this section is is just about minimizing
1:11:06 single-use plastics, disposable utensils
1:11:08 and mandating that source separation.
1:11:12 um the
1:11:16 audits um and the goal of the audits is
1:11:20 to achieve 70% waste city waste
1:11:22 diversion by 2030 and 90% by 2050. And
1:11:26 so those are the audits that would
1:11:27 happen at city facilities every 3 years
1:11:29 or on a rotating basis. So the audits
1:11:32 would happen every year but for each
1:11:34 facility every three years.
1:11:37 Um and then the aim would be a 90% waste
1:11:40 diversion rate for construction
1:11:41 involving demolition and 75% waste
1:11:44 diversion for construction not involving
1:11:46 de demolition.
1:11:48 Um and though that's an encouraged um
1:11:51 aim and so that's again kind of where a
1:11:53 phased approach would happen of this is
1:11:56 the encouraged um diversion rate and as
1:11:59 we assessing how this is being
1:12:01 implemented we can make that stronger as
1:12:05 that language stronger in uh future
1:12:07 updates. Well, I guess I'm thinking
1:12:10 about this particularly now because
1:12:13 there's a house under construction
1:12:16 and they have a nice big bin out front
1:12:19 and they're throwing amazing quantities
1:12:22 of nice lumber in there and I'm just
1:12:25 wondering well what so what happens to
1:12:27 all that in the olden days it would have
1:12:29 all gone to the landfill. What what
1:12:33 happens these days
1:12:35 like that?
1:12:37 That is a great question. Um, I might
1:12:39 need to follow up with our solid waste
1:12:41 analyst to get more details to give make
1:12:44 sure I'm giving the the best answer
1:12:46 there
1:12:46 >> because it it has, for example, it looks
1:12:49 like they're just mixing everything into
1:12:51 this bin. They ought to be separating
1:12:53 out dimensional lumber, which is nice
1:12:56 clean lumber versus garbage versus well
1:13:01 engineered lumber, you know, plywood and
1:13:03 things like that that have chemicals in
1:13:05 it. that's in a different category than
1:13:08 convention features of oil and uh should
1:13:12 be uh should not go directly into a
1:13:15 landing
1:13:17 the uses for that it should be remote
1:13:21 and made into other things. So I'm I'm
1:13:24 wondering what happens these days to a
1:13:27 bid like that.
1:13:28 >> I can find out more details. The what's
1:13:30 currently in the policy is they aim for
1:13:33 essentially 90% that material would go
1:13:36 towards reuse instead of the landfall.
1:13:39 >> for city projects, sorry for city
1:13:42 projects. Yes.
1:13:43 >> Our city code does have some
1:13:44 requirements. We'll look that up and
1:13:46 send it. And then um that is proposed
1:13:49 for in the new IAP as we get into the
1:13:52 lease and materials review of those new
1:13:56 actions. Um there will be a proposal to
1:13:59 update that code and make it stronger.
1:14:06 >> Okay. Thank you.
1:14:08 just an idea uh along the lines. Uh the
1:14:12 city could could do something to foster
1:14:14 reuse and repurposing of city uh
1:14:18 equipment that's no longer used. At
1:14:20 Boeing, they used to have a place where
1:14:23 they would take all the old desks and
1:14:25 all the old computers and then they
1:14:28 would open this store up like once a
1:14:30 week on Saturday for sale to the public.
1:14:34 >> The city could do something similar like
1:14:35 that. Does the city use a public surplus
1:14:38 process?
1:14:39 >> Oh, that's a good question. I know the
1:14:41 school district does something like
1:14:42 that. I don't
1:14:43 >> I think the municipal what I'm aware
1:14:46 municipalities and government agencies
1:14:48 are required to surplus their their
1:14:51 excess stuff. There's lots of government
1:14:54 surplus websites out there.
1:14:57 >> Um, but they're required to try to
1:14:58 recoup any available money they can
1:15:01 before they dispose it.
1:15:03 >> So, it's already done.
1:15:05 I know everybody does a little
1:15:07 different. So,
1:15:08 >> we definitely do follow some public
1:15:10 surplus. I'm I'm most familiar with it
1:15:12 with our fleet. So, you know, for
1:15:14 getting rid of a car, we have to kind of
1:15:16 go through these policies. we can't
1:15:19 just, you know, throw it out or
1:15:21 anything, but um I know we have had
1:15:25 events at Pickering Barn specifically
1:15:28 for kind of um
1:15:32 uh material, you know, kind of furniture
1:15:37 on the word, but furniture
1:15:40 um recycling events and things like
1:15:42 that. I think not sure if city materials
1:15:45 would have gone into that necessarily,
1:15:47 but um there are a couple specific
1:15:51 actions in our ICAP that we're
1:15:53 considering and some of our other plans
1:15:55 to to specifically look at kind of
1:15:57 opportunities for reusing recycling city
1:16:01 equipment and materials in our
1:16:03 facilities.
1:16:07 >> Um one suggestion for you on the phase
1:16:09 approach from 25 to 2030. Um it doesn't
1:16:12 really say what happens after the phase
1:16:14 approach. So put a little more teeth to
1:16:16 that of 2028. We're going to go through
1:16:19 a in-depth evaluation and make a
1:16:21 decision by 2030 on final steps.
1:16:26 >> You put a timeline to it. But
1:16:28 >> what kind of
1:16:29 >> it's just kind of open. It's just kind
1:16:30 of okay. Now what?
1:16:33 >> Okay.
1:16:35 >> Yes, I think we can do that.
1:16:38 >> Overall, I like it. Looks good. Other
1:16:43 questions?
1:16:46 >> Actually, I have one.
1:16:47 >> Yeah, I'll give this one. So, um, so you
1:16:50 mentioned one of the policy changes is
1:16:52 to change it from or at least to
1:16:54 eliminate the language that talks about
1:16:55 communityf facing events and you
1:16:57 mentioned um and I think in in another
1:17:00 part of the language it changes it from
1:17:03 you know all private public or municipal
1:17:06 buildings to those that are just owned
1:17:08 and financed by the city. So you
1:17:10 mentioned that was part of sort of like
1:17:11 the city wanting to lead by example. Um
1:17:14 were there other challenges and was it
1:17:17 too ambitious of a goal to sort of you
1:17:20 know uh what were the what were the
1:17:22 challenges of this community this
1:17:24 initial community facing approach and
1:17:27 could you speak a little bit about why
1:17:29 the change?
1:17:30 >> Yeah from from kind of community city to
1:17:32 to city for this policy. So I think a
1:17:37 lot of the impetus for that was to think
1:17:41 about where we can um implement those
1:17:46 sustainability
1:17:47 guidance or regulations uh the best in
1:17:50 in city um processes. And so I think
1:17:55 with the update of our title 18 um we
1:17:58 incorporated sustainability
1:18:00 uh principles into that. Um and then
1:18:03 within our actually quite a few
1:18:05 different um city code areas. So title
1:18:09 18 is our land use code. 16 is our
1:18:12 building code. Then we have and I mess
1:18:16 up the numbers, but 12 or 13 there's
1:18:19 information on storm water and some of
1:18:22 these other pieces. And so rather than
1:18:24 having these community regulations
1:18:26 around sustainability
1:18:28 both in our in our code but then also in
1:18:31 this policy the idea is to just
1:18:33 incorporate it as much as we can into
1:18:35 the code itself. Um so that's then the
1:18:38 guidance and the requirements for folks
1:18:40 and instead take this policy for city
1:18:44 operations to think about what can the
1:18:45 city do to go above and beyond what's
1:18:48 already existing in those codes. So, um
1:18:54 it's very possible that we come back to
1:18:56 the environmental board in the future to
1:18:58 talk about updates to um our city code
1:19:02 to incorporate more sustainability
1:19:04 language into um those pieces of the of
1:19:08 the um municipal code that would be then
1:19:11 more applicable to the community beyond
1:19:14 again what's already in there right now.
1:19:18 No, that's actually on my updates for
1:19:20 later um is we will be reviewing. So
1:19:24 when um title 18 or land use code was
1:19:27 passed, the environmental board weighed
1:19:29 in on the sustainable building
1:19:31 requirements there. We went with a lead
1:19:34 platum certification for buildings of a
1:19:37 certain size and above. We always knew
1:19:40 we would revisit that. Um, so that is on
1:19:43 the list for 2026 to revisit what are
1:19:46 going to be the communitywide
1:19:48 requirements, sustainable building
1:19:50 requirements.
1:19:51 Um, so yeah, as David was saying, we
1:19:54 really want communitywide requirements
1:19:56 documented in code. Um, this document is
1:19:59 really meant to be internal policy, a
1:20:02 lot of guidelines, some requirement, but
1:20:05 it'll be a little bit more flexible
1:20:07 versus what's in code and required. any
1:20:11 >> and I will say that the city is required
1:20:13 to meet the code as well. So, uh even if
1:20:16 this policy allows a little bit of
1:20:18 flexibility, anything that's in code,
1:20:20 the city has to do also.
1:20:23 >> Thanks.
1:20:27 >> Thank you all very much for listening to
1:20:30 >> blabber on for the last hour and a half.
1:20:34 Please do look at I think it's
1:20:36 attachment C is the track changes
1:20:38 version of um you had kindly pulled out
1:20:42 the material from the the larger
1:20:44 document into a more readable format.
1:20:48 Um, but that's where we seek any
1:20:50 additional input, revisions, reach out,
1:20:54 schedule one time if you want more time
1:20:56 to talk about it and we'll offer that up
1:20:58 to the board members that aren't here so
1:21:00 we can come back for discussion and
1:21:02 discussion.
1:21:04 >> Okay,
1:21:09 >> Stacy.
1:21:10 >> All right, we will give David a break.
1:21:13 Um, so I will we're about 7:55. Um,
1:21:18 we'll keep this fairly brief. Um, we got
1:21:21 to provide an update on the climate
1:21:23 action plan update. Um, provide a P
1:21:26 report out at the end of the meeting.
1:21:30 uh, we shared a bit about this at the
1:21:31 last couple of meetings, but did want to
1:21:33 provide the board just a progress report
1:21:35 on where we are with updating the plan.
1:21:38 Um, and I'll pull up a couple documents
1:21:40 in a few moments. Um so as you all are
1:21:44 aware many of you participated um we
1:21:46 formed two committees last spring that
1:21:49 were focused around two of our focus
1:21:51 areas in the plan. One committee on
1:21:54 natural systems and water resources, the
1:21:56 other on transportation and land use.
1:21:59 Those committees met together and then
1:22:02 separately um to really dive in deep
1:22:05 into the actions in those focus areas.
1:22:08 Um just as a reminder to the the reason
1:22:11 we formed those two committees was our
1:22:13 natural system section need a lot of
1:22:15 updates because the current actions in
1:22:18 the IAP do not relate to the target for
1:22:20 that focus area which is around tree
1:22:23 canopy land use and transportation. A
1:22:26 lot of those actions in the current
1:22:29 climate plan were focused on the title
1:22:31 18 update. Many of them were addressed
1:22:33 in that land use code update. Um and
1:22:36 then we've also updated our mobility
1:22:39 action plan um since the IAAP was
1:22:41 written. So we wanted to revisit the
1:22:43 transportation actions.
1:22:48 so those committees have met provided
1:22:50 recommendations over the summer. We
1:22:53 worked with the consultant and then
1:22:55 staff have been evaluating those
1:22:56 recommendations
1:22:58 to put forward either a revised action,
1:23:02 a new action or recommendation to an
1:23:05 action from a plan.
1:23:08 Um, we are planning to bring that input
1:23:12 to multiple boards and commissions this
1:23:15 fall as well as the environmental board
1:23:18 to get feedback on those proposed
1:23:21 revisions.
1:23:22 um and eventually work through the
1:23:24 environmental board to group those those
1:23:26 actions um into the new climate plan
1:23:32 as well. this summer. Um David and I
1:23:34 have been going through the plan and
1:23:36 looking at the actions in the other
1:23:38 focus areas. So, buildings and energy,
1:23:41 the overarching materials um and
1:23:44 resources.
1:23:45 And we have been um working on revisions
1:23:49 with staff uh subject matter experts, um
1:23:52 our own thoughts based on what we've
1:23:54 learned over the last few years. uh
1:23:57 looking at our neighboring jurisdictions
1:23:59 who are updating their climate plans to
1:24:01 see if they have great ideas for new
1:24:04 policies to propose. Um and we will be
1:24:07 packaging those recommendations up to
1:24:10 bring to you all um over the coming
1:24:12 months. Um, we'll also be meeting with
1:24:15 our emergency manager, um, he's back, I
1:24:18 believe, in November to work on the
1:24:20 community, um, resilience and well-being
1:24:23 section and and provide new
1:24:25 recommendations for that section.
1:24:28 Um, earlier this week, David and I also
1:24:31 met with staff from the Snomme tribe to
1:24:34 start our review of the natural systems
1:24:37 actions. um she was only able to attend
1:24:39 one of the committee meetings. So we
1:24:42 were going through recommendations
1:24:43 coming out of the committee as well as
1:24:45 our staff review to get her input and
1:24:47 we'll continue that conversation with
1:24:49 the tribe to look at additional
1:24:54 um so that is kind of where we are. Uh
1:24:58 things are going to get very busy soon
1:25:00 as we start to take draft
1:25:02 recommendations to transportation board.
1:25:06 Um it'll be a combined meeting with
1:25:08 equity board, uh park board, and PPC.
1:25:12 Um and in the meantime, we'll be
1:25:14 starting to have conversations with you
1:25:16 all about, uh some of the more
1:25:18 overarching questions like how long
1:25:21 should this plan be? How often should we
1:25:23 be doing our greenhouse gas inventory?
1:25:26 Um and there's a few other kind of
1:25:28 overarching questions that we'll start
1:25:29 to have.
1:25:32 Um so that is a quick very quick
1:25:35 overview. I will show you um
1:25:41 uh just what we put in the memo. This is
1:25:44 a very tenative plan of what we're
1:25:48 thinking is um talking with you in
1:25:51 October, starting that conversation
1:25:53 about some of the overarching updates
1:25:56 we're looking at making, talking about
1:25:58 how long we want this plan to be
1:26:00 greenhouse gas inventory.
1:26:02 Um and then October, December, we'd be
1:26:06 starting to bring um specific actions to
1:26:09 you. Uh probably grouped by focus area.
1:26:12 So, buildings and energy or natural
1:26:14 systems and water resources. Um we will
1:26:19 bring you the
1:26:22 actions after they've been reviewed with
1:26:24 the other board or commission that is
1:26:27 the subject matter expert around that
1:26:29 particular topic.
1:26:33 the one thing I neglected to mention
1:26:35 that's also coming up is we will be
1:26:37 forming a third committee um metrics
1:26:40 committee which I know PJ has
1:26:41 volunteered to. We're going to reach out
1:26:43 to Jamie originally expressed interest
1:26:46 um and we welcome any other members of
1:26:48 the board. That group will be starting
1:26:51 to meet this winter once we've started
1:26:54 to shape our actions a little bit more
1:26:57 and identify really what are the best
1:26:59 measures for those actions to make sure
1:27:01 we can um continue to report out in a
1:27:05 very transparent way on our dashboard.
1:27:08 So that group will meet kind of winter
1:27:09 into early spring sort of in parallel as
1:27:12 we're finalizing actions.
1:27:15 Um we're thinking probably November we
1:27:19 we should be ready to bring you all
1:27:21 natural systems actions um some of the
1:27:24 overarching actions which really are
1:27:27 municipal work and maybe even some of
1:27:28 the buildings and energy action that
1:27:31 might be very ambitious for that
1:27:32 meeting. Um December uh we should be
1:27:35 ready to bring you community resilience
1:27:37 and well-being. Um, and then January
1:27:41 through April, we'll probably bringing
1:27:42 you um the focus area actions again,
1:27:45 starting to talk metrics, um, and really
1:27:48 starting to get more of a complete
1:27:50 review over the planes.
1:27:53 We are still aiming for council review
1:27:57 and approval by June. Um,
1:28:00 reminder that is to get ahead of our
1:28:03 budget season, which staff usually
1:28:06 propose budget requests in July. Um if
1:28:10 we need to extend this deadline because
1:28:12 environmental board has more feedback on
1:28:13 the plan or we just need more of a
1:28:15 process that's definitely doable. Um but
1:28:18 our hope was to get the plan approved
1:28:21 for the budget and optional.
1:28:25 Any questions on schedule and very
1:28:28 tenative schedule and then what I did
1:28:30 want to show is just how we're planning
1:28:33 to bring your materials for review.
1:28:35 Before I do that, any questions? Um,
1:28:38 >> no, I will just remind everybody that
1:28:40 council review or that council review at
1:28:43 April June ahead of the budget. That was
1:28:45 one of our earlier comments from long
1:28:47 ago this first came to us was to please
1:28:51 align that with the budget so you can
1:28:52 get this ahead in case you need.
1:28:56 So, just one question and just remind me
1:28:59 I don't remember. So this is so if it
1:29:01 gets approved in June, this is a
1:29:04 five-year plan, right?
1:29:06 >> That's what we'll talk about next
1:29:07 meeting. Um yeah, I think there's
1:29:10 options. We had some great feedback from
1:29:12 the snow call me tribe um this week that
1:29:15 kind of reshape my thinking around
1:29:17 timeline, but that's a recommendation
1:29:19 the board can make. So we are shaping
1:29:23 the actions so they they could really
1:29:26 exist in a fiveyear plan, a 10-year
1:29:28 plan. they're still relevant.
1:29:32 >> That'll be a lens. Yeah, great question
1:29:34 and look forward to that.
1:29:36 >> And the current plan is a five.
1:29:38 >> Yeah,
1:29:39 >> that's the update.
1:29:41 >> Yeah, our our light refresh update.
1:29:47 great. Um, so what I wanted to just
1:29:50 share and these were in the packet.
1:29:52 These were not for review, not for
1:29:55 discussion, just a example. Um we are
1:30:00 planning to bring you all
1:30:02 uh the items for review in a format
1:30:05 following the very extensive
1:30:08 comprehensive plan review. We felt like
1:30:11 that format and opportunity for the
1:30:13 board to review items um seem to work.
1:30:18 Um so this is an example of kind of
1:30:21 overarching comments
1:30:24 um and where we'd eventually move all
1:30:26 the recommendations for action revisions
1:30:28 would be into a document like this. Um
1:30:31 we kind of show it by section of the
1:30:33 plan. We'd show what the proposed change
1:30:38 whether or not that proposed change was
1:30:40 addressed and why.
1:30:45 and then what we are looking what we're
1:30:48 working on for the committee review is
1:30:50 somewhat similar although it'll be a
1:30:52 little bit different because we want you
1:30:53 to understand the input from the
1:30:56 committees is we have um the current
1:30:59 action in the plan feedback uh any
1:31:03 proposed revisions to that action based
1:31:06 on committee input. We will show you a
1:31:10 little bit of what that committee
1:31:11 discussed that led to the proposed
1:31:13 action. Um what our recommendation is
1:31:18 and why whether we're simplifying what
1:31:21 the committee suggests, suggesting we
1:31:23 move forward with it, suggesting a
1:31:26 different approach, we provide you that
1:31:28 detail. Um so there will be these two
1:31:31 documents. uh one is kind of all the
1:31:34 actions um addressed by the the two
1:31:37 committees. Um once those actions the
1:31:41 board has reviewed them, kind of
1:31:43 provided feedback, we'd eventually move
1:31:45 those into this kind of main document
1:31:48 that'll capture all the changes going
1:31:50 into the plan. But for right now, we
1:31:52 felt like we kind of needed the two
1:31:54 document given the committee approach.
1:31:59 So that might have been hopefully not
1:32:01 too confusing but basically wanted to
1:32:03 give you a snapshot of um how we plan to
1:32:06 bring the changes to you and again it's
1:32:08 really following that model um that
1:32:10 Stephen used for the conference.
1:32:14 welcome feedback on this. If there's
1:32:16 other ways, um we can also share as
1:32:20 requested our track changes version of
1:32:22 the IAP which will become very very
1:32:25 messy very fast. Um but yeah, welcome
1:32:29 any feedback on kind of this format or
1:32:31 if there's other things you want to see
1:32:33 as we're bringing you materials.
1:32:38 >> Could you include a date he received?
1:32:41 >> Oh, yeah. Okay.
1:32:42 >> So we can kind of see it as a timeline.
1:32:48 >> Any plans to replace the environmental
1:32:50 board with an EI?
1:32:53 >> No
1:32:58 will come.
1:32:59 >> Yeah.
1:33:01 >> No.
1:33:02 to that one
1:33:04 >> discussion human interaction
1:33:07 pretty critical.
1:33:12 >> for the moment.
1:33:14 >> For the moment,
1:33:18 great. Any other thoughts, feedback?
1:33:23 Yeah, as we do a first review in October
1:33:27 and then November, if there's things
1:33:30 like date that you want to see here, let
1:33:32 us know. We can build these out further.
1:33:34 Just want to make sure you're prepared
1:33:36 for what you'd be receiving over many,
1:33:39 many meetings.
1:33:43 Great. Um I think that is all
1:33:48 we're going to share.
1:33:51 >> Have one more question.
1:33:52 >> Yeah.
1:33:53 >> At one time you had something on your
1:33:55 agenda first night regarding sister
1:33:58 city.
1:33:58 >> Yes.
1:33:59 >> We'll do a quick update on that in a
1:34:00 minute. Okay. Yeah.
1:34:04 Okay.
1:34:05 >> That's it on the IAP update. Any other
1:34:07 questions on where that process is?
1:34:11 >> Sounds like we'll get to see it several
1:34:13 times.
1:34:18 >> Don't need my other quick updates. Okay.
1:34:20 Um maybe before I'm Karen, uh Mina,
1:34:25 you're still there. I think it's
1:34:26 probably very late. Um any updates from
1:34:29 you all?
1:34:31 >> No, I don't have anything.
1:34:35 >> Um excellent. Well, yeah. Next topic,
1:34:37 good seway, John. Um, wanted to provide
1:34:40 an update on conversations with our
1:34:43 sister city in Morocco. Um, if you all
1:34:46 recall back in April, I believe the
1:34:49 mayor joined us and we had a short joint
1:34:52 meeting with the sister cities
1:34:54 commission to talk about a potential
1:34:56 joint project related to climate
1:34:59 resilience um with uh our sister city
1:35:02 Chiaan.
1:35:04 Um since then, um staff have been
1:35:07 participating in international cohort
1:35:11 that partners US cities and African
1:35:14 cities to work on climate resilience
1:35:16 projects that integrate art, heritage
1:35:18 and culture. Um and we have been um
1:35:24 participating in that cohort through
1:35:26 trainings, resources. Um that group is
1:35:29 also facilitating conversations between
1:35:31 the US and African cities. We've had one
1:35:35 conversation um with Cheshawan to date
1:35:38 that included the mayor and some staff
1:35:41 just to hear what their priorities for a
1:35:43 joint project would be. Um we've heard
1:35:46 from Mayor Polly a couple times. She has
1:35:49 some priorities around uh showing
1:35:52 projects that demonstrate
1:35:55 climate action in different types of
1:35:57 environments um dry and hot and and wet.
1:36:01 Um and then uh last week we met with um
1:36:07 Don and Alex and the chairs of the
1:36:09 sister city commission and chairs of the
1:36:11 art commission to provide an update on
1:36:14 conversations to date and start to
1:36:16 brainstorm potential project ideas um or
1:36:20 goals for a project.
1:36:22 Um, I think there is a lot, what we've
1:36:25 heard to date is there's a lot of
1:36:27 interest on centering around youth. Um,
1:36:30 and probably some type of multi- media
1:36:34 art project. Um, and there were some
1:36:38 really specific ideas. Don had some
1:36:40 great ideas about um, working closely
1:36:42 with schools. We had ideas about um
1:36:45 focusing on mental health and uh really
1:36:49 building hope and empowerment amongst
1:36:51 youth in a climate change future. Um so
1:36:55 our next steps uh for the project are um
1:37:00 connecting again with our sister cities
1:37:02 just to share our conversations to date.
1:37:05 um connecting with some of our youth um
1:37:08 advisory boards, uh sustainability
1:37:11 ambassadors Karen Mina probably
1:37:13 connecting with you and other youth
1:37:15 representatives on Sister Cities
1:37:17 Commission and the arts board um to
1:37:20 receive input and then hopefully um
1:37:23 having a project concept developed uh by
1:37:26 this winter that could then be
1:37:28 implemented in the spring. So just
1:37:31 moving forward uh nothing concrete yet
1:37:33 but a lot of um ideas and interest and
1:37:38 um we know that Shan's um committed to
1:37:41 moving
1:37:42 well. So as we have those conversations
1:37:46 with youth and start to shape more of a
1:37:48 project idea, we bring that up to
1:37:53 >> there's a lot of conversation about a
1:37:55 shared approach where
1:37:58 the ether be learning about the other
1:38:01 city while at the same time developing
1:38:02 some kind of art. they develop artwork
1:38:04 their location that they share with us
1:38:07 or they just they learn about our
1:38:09 location and and develop our work what
1:38:12 they think our location is.
1:38:16 >> yeah actually
1:38:19 so yeah and getting involved youth
1:38:21 involved with that I think is the best
1:38:23 way to go about it.
1:38:27 >> I was interested because my daughter
1:38:29 just went there.
1:38:30 >> Oh really? 18th summer just for a couple
1:38:32 days.
1:38:35 >> Um we also did our um sister city
1:38:38 leaison is interested in maybe talking
1:38:41 about bringing in the sister city in
1:38:43 Norway possibly into the project as
1:38:46 well. Not to complicate complicate
1:38:48 things but if um there is shared
1:38:50 interest there be great to bring in.
1:38:57 >> Great. And then I have um two quick
1:38:59 council updates and a couple reminders
1:39:03 for that. Um
1:39:05 last night there was a discussion on
1:39:07 tree code at one of our council
1:39:09 committees. Um I know Ann
1:39:12 was uh aware of this and some of you may
1:39:16 have been following it. Um I will note
1:39:18 there was an email from Connie last
1:39:21 night regarding this. So Minnie was
1:39:23 going to follow
1:39:25 today just to resolve or better
1:39:28 understand what the concern was. Um in
1:39:32 conversations with Minnie today, she did
1:39:34 um uh confirm that all the staff
1:39:37 recommendations that went to the council
1:39:39 committee were in line with the
1:39:40 environmental board recommendations.
1:39:43 Um the committee did end up um
1:39:46 recommending moving forward with the
1:39:48 code. There's a lot of there was a lot
1:39:50 of discussion during the meeting whether
1:39:53 to send it back um whether to send parts
1:39:55 of it forward. In the end they thought
1:39:58 it was best to move it forward at this
1:40:01 time in its current state but they have
1:40:04 asked staff to come back for kind of a
1:40:07 phase two and really revisit the tree
1:40:10 code. Um Minnie shared that um as and
1:40:15 we've heard from Dan Hins here that
1:40:17 there is going to be the King County
1:40:18 tree canopy study happening. Um and so
1:40:22 Minnie and her team think there'll be
1:40:24 results out of that that can be really
1:40:26 used to inform the next phase of the
1:40:28 tree code. Um as well as some tools that
1:40:32 will help uh better assessment tree
1:40:35 equity at the parcel level. Um, so
1:40:38 expect in 2026,
1:40:41 uh, we will be revisiting tree code. Um,
1:40:45 I know that was a very lengthy uh, topic
1:40:48 that we revisited several times this
1:40:50 spring and early summer, but um, it's a
1:40:52 really important one in the city. Um, so
1:40:54 we'll be critical for the environmental
1:40:56 board to weigh in again on any updates
1:40:58 to that.
1:41:00 Um on Monday at um committee of the
1:41:03 whole with council uh they did discuss
1:41:06 the title 18 whiteboard. think folks
1:41:10 remember that um when we for those that
1:41:12 weren't on the board a couple years ago
1:41:14 when we went through the big title 18
1:41:16 land use code update there were several
1:41:19 things um that either didn't get
1:41:21 addressed or were included with the note
1:41:26 that we needed to revise them such as
1:41:27 the sustainable building and green
1:41:30 building policy. Um so council discussed
1:41:34 um those priorities for our planning
1:41:37 department to look at. Um and it's very
1:41:41 likely next year in addition to tree
1:41:42 code we'll be revisiting the green
1:41:44 building policy with the opportunity to
1:41:47 expand beyond leaf platinum. Um so it'll
1:41:50 be a great opportunity for the board to
1:41:51 weigh in on that. Um and then Minnie did
1:41:54 mention there's the potential we'll be
1:41:56 getting into um wildfire risk and
1:41:59 critical area discussions which the
1:42:02 board would likely be. So shaping up to
1:42:05 possibly be a very busy 2026 um looking
1:42:09 at codes involve
1:42:12 any question on those two council
1:42:15 updates.
1:42:16 All right. Um and then last thing uh our
1:42:19 next meeting in October will be bringing
1:42:21 back sustainable building um and
1:42:23 infrastructure policy for uh potential
1:42:26 action and then starting conversation
1:42:29 planning date. Um and then as a reminder
1:42:33 I think you all have on your calendarly
1:42:36 um October 15th we are planning a town
1:42:39 hall event at the King County Library.
1:42:42 Um we will be sending out um a flyer on
1:42:46 that probably early next week. We're
1:42:49 confirming one of the um partners
1:42:52 whether they'll be speaking. Um so we'll
1:42:55 make sure that that is that you all are
1:42:57 have that invitation and you can spread
1:42:58 the word with your networks on that
1:43:00 event.
1:43:01 >> Is this the one for the climate action
1:43:03 >> Yes.
1:43:04 >> Yes. Do you still need any help with
1:43:06 that? I have you down that volunteered
1:43:08 possibly to help out
1:43:10 >> especially for planning purposes. If you
1:43:12 need any definitely okay
1:43:15 >> there's more than was it six of us got
1:43:17 that doesn't have to be
1:43:18 >> I'll probably noted as a special meeting
1:43:20 because we'd really like all of you
1:43:23 there. It's a town hall with the mayor
1:43:24 to talk about our progress on climate
1:43:26 and sustainability as well as hear from
1:43:29 other partners and then we'll be there
1:43:31 to get some input on some aspect of the
1:43:34 climate plan. We haven't figured that
1:43:36 out yet, but yeah, we would really like
1:43:38 the full board there. So, we'll plan to
1:43:40 mark it as special meeting.
1:43:45 >> That's it. Any other big
1:43:48 >> Yeah. So, our um tree giveaway program
1:43:50 is launching the applications open on
1:43:53 next Friday the se 19th September. Um we
1:43:57 are doing kind of a slow roll of
1:43:59 announcement um and focusing our
1:44:01 outreach uh immediately on areas that
1:44:04 have lower tree canopy cover in the city
1:44:06 first. Um so uh all that's to say you
1:44:10 might start seeing some lawn signs go
1:44:12 up. You might start seeing flyers at
1:44:13 some community facilities. We have
1:44:15 around 275 to 300 trees um that we'll be
1:44:19 giving away. Um so if you're interested
1:44:22 it is open to it will be open to uh any
1:44:26 resident of Isiqua um small business
1:44:28 located in Isiqua nonprofit located in
1:44:30 Isiqua etc. Um starting September 19th
1:44:35 and information is on the website. So um
1:44:39 we don't know how quick the trees are
1:44:41 going to go. This is our first time ever
1:44:43 doing it. So we will
1:44:44 >> Where did you get the trees?
1:44:48 uh, 25 of them were I think Annum
1:44:53 saved them, res rescued them. Those were
1:44:56 Douglas bars.
1:44:58 >> Um, the rest of the trees I have to look
1:45:01 back at which nursery we got them from,
1:45:03 >> So they were pot potted up.
1:45:05 >> Yes. So they're I think the smallest
1:45:07 trees are in like two gallon buckets,
1:45:10 but it's like two to five gallon bucket
1:45:12 trees. And there's about 10 different
1:45:14 types of trees that we're giving away.
1:45:16 Um, community members can take up to two
1:45:18 trees. Um, again, like nonprofits,
1:45:21 things like that can take up to 10
1:45:23 trees. Sign up for up to 10 trees. So,
1:45:27 and then the actual giveaway event will
1:45:29 be in November, but there's an
1:45:31 application process first so that we can
1:45:33 figure out how many of each trees we're
1:45:34 getting and order them and uh prepare
1:45:38 for the event. So, just a spin on this.
1:45:41 Um, I was mentioning this earlier. I I
1:45:45 tend to um save uh volunteer trees and
1:45:51 that pot them up and then grow them up.
1:45:53 That's something we could do in the
1:45:55 community as a as a as a u as a feeder
1:45:59 to something like this where people
1:46:01 could, you know, they see a tree
1:46:04 sprouting up in their, you know, in
1:46:07 their ditch or whatever, they dig it
1:46:09 out, pot it up and nurse it for a year
1:46:12 and then bring it to one of these
1:46:13 events.
1:46:14 >> Or if there was a place they could just
1:46:16 pot it up and drop it off.
1:46:17 >> Yeah. When a nursery facility, parks
1:46:21 department comes by and takes through.
1:46:22 someone squirted with water.
1:46:25 >> Could definitely be something we talk
1:46:26 about with Dan and uh explore.
1:46:30 >> We'll send out a link to the
1:46:33 website that
1:46:36 >> So, I hope you get a tree if you're uh
1:46:39 looking to plant in your yard and
1:46:40 otherwise spread the word with folks
1:46:42 especially in Isiqua Highlands, downtown
1:46:45 Isiqua, Central Isaac, South Co. Um
1:46:49 yeah, thank you.
1:46:52 That it.
1:46:53 >> All right. Thanks everybody.
1:46:56 Thank you.
1:47:00 >> Thank you.
1:47:02 >> Thanks.
1:47:03 >> Thanks.
1:47:04 Happy.