Development Commission · Wednesday, November 19, 2025 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of October 15, 2025

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Staff report:

MINUTES DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION 6:30 p.m. – Wednesday, October 15, 2025

3. PUBLIC COMMENT

Issaquah High School #4 & Elementary School #17 Site Development Permit / Master Site Plan Major Amendment, Quasi-Judicial

Emily Medina, Senior Planner Todd Sawin, AHBL, Applicant Application No.: MSPA25-00003; PRJ19- Location: 4221 228th AVE. SE. Parcel Numbers: 1624069029, 1624069001, Applicant: Todd Sawin, AHBL Public Hearing Order: Meeting Materials: Original permits, staff report and materials Site Development Permit, Master Site Plan & Administrative Adjustment of Standards are City Council Special Meeting - Apr 19 2022 · packet pp.8

Topics: Land Use

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Staff report:

mentioned during the Public Hearing and stated that the design is handsome providing a needed housing type.

5. REPORTS

City Council Update

6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

Upcoming Schedule

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Staff report:

Development Commission 2025 Schedule (subject to change)

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0:07 ↗ Good evening and welcome. I would like

0:09 ↗ to call the November 19th city of Isiqua

0:11 ↗ Development Commission meeting to order

0:12 ↗ at 6:35 p.m. As a reminder, we have a

0:16 ↗ remote aspect to our meetings. This

0:18 ↗ means both staff and members of the

0:20 ↗ public may be participating in the

0:22 ↗ meeting remotely via WebEx. For those

0:25 ↗ attending remotely, if you have

0:26 ↗ questions or issues, please send the

0:28 ↗ host a chat message or email staff at

0:30 ↗ emilymeed

0:32 ↗ isquawah.gov.

0:36 ↗ Excused absences for this meeting are

0:38 ↗ Commissioner Price, alternate member

0:41 ↗ Jeff Mayo is filling in for this evening

0:43 ↗ as a regular member.

0:47 ↗ Our first item of business is to take

0:49 ↗ action on meeting minutes for October

0:51 ↗ 15, 2025. Has everyone had an

0:54 ↗ opportunity to review the minutes?

0:57 ↗ Are there any corrections to the October

0:59 ↗ 15th minutes provided in the agenda

1:01 ↗ packet?

1:03 ↗ Hearing none, the minutes are approved

1:04 ↗ as submitted.

1:08 ↗ Next, I would like to open the floor for

1:09 ↗ any members of the public in person or

1:12 ↗ virtually who would like to make a

1:13 ↗ general comment. There will be a public

1:15 ↗ hearing later in the meeting for those

1:17 ↗ who would like to comment on the Isiqua

1:18 ↗ High School number four and elementary

1:20 ↗ school number 17 on the project.

1:25 ↗ Miss Jackson, has anyone signed up to

1:26 ↗ make general public comments?

1:29 ↗ >> No, Chair, they have not.

1:31 ↗ >> Okay. Would anyone here like to make

1:35 ↗ general public comments?

1:38 ↗ Okay.

1:46 ↗ Our first agenda item is pre-decision

1:50 ↗ open record public hearing. The order of

1:52 ↗ operation for this hearing will be as

1:54 ↗ follows. First, the purpose of the

1:56 ↗ public hearing followed by our

1:58 ↗ appearance of fairness doctrines. Then

2:00 ↗ we'll open the public hearing with a

2:02 ↗ staff presentation followed by an

2:04 ↗ applicant presentation. Then open the

2:06 ↗ floor for public comment. There will be

2:09 ↗ opportunity for rebuttal by applicant

2:11 ↗ then staff and then we will close the

2:13 ↗ public hearing.

2:15 ↗ That will be followed by commission

2:16 ↗ deliberation, commission action and vote

2:20 ↗ and concluding the agenda item. If for

2:24 ↗ any reason the public hearing cannot be

2:26 ↗ completed this evening, it may be

2:27 ↗ continued at a specific date.

2:32 ↗ This is the formal public hearing for

2:34 ↗ the proposed major amendment to the

2:35 ↗ master site plan and site development

2:37 ↗ permit for Isiqua High School number

2:39 ↗ four and elementary school number 17.

2:41 ↗ The purpose of this hearing is to

2:43 ↗ solicit relevant public comment and

2:45 ↗ facilitate the review, discussion, and

2:47 ↗ decision on the application by the

2:49 ↗ development commission. This is a quasi

2:51 ↗ judicial hearing.

2:55 ↗ Emily, please proceed with our

2:56 ↗ appearance of fairness disclosures.

3:02 ↗ We we can't hear the audio from the room

3:06 ↗ online.

3:18 ↗ Commissioner Fashion, can you hear me?

3:22 ↗ >> Okay.

3:23 ↗ >> No, I can't. I couldn't before. No, now

3:25 ↗ I can.

3:27 ↗ >> Perfect. Thanks for letting me know.

3:36 ↗ Right. Give me one second to share my

3:38 ↗ screen. All

4:05 ↗ right, starting with the appearance of

4:07 ↗ fairness.

4:11 ↗ Um so before we start our public

4:13 ↗ hearing, we'll go through uh the

4:15 ↗ appearance of fairness with our

4:16 ↗ commissioners and audience members. Um

4:18 ↗ this is a quasi judicial hearing. So the

4:21 ↗ decision context um is that it requires

4:24 ↗ proceedings to be fair in fact and

4:26 ↗ appearance. Exparte contacts are

4:28 ↗ prohibited. And the test is would a

4:30 ↗ disinterested person knowing the

4:32 ↗ totality of a decision maker's personal

4:34 ↗ interest in a matter be reasonably

4:35 ↗ justified in thinking that partiality

4:37 ↗ may exist. Decision makers who have

4:40 ↗ personal interest, prejudgment of issues

4:42 ↗ or partiality are disqualified from the

4:44 ↗ proceedings.

4:47 ↗ So I will begin with questions for the

4:49 ↗ commissioners. uh please just reply in

4:53 ↗ the affirmative um after each question

4:56 ↗ with the regard to the outcome of this

4:58 ↗ proceeding. Do you have a personal

5:00 ↗ interest financial or otherwise in the

5:02 ↗ outcome?

5:03 ↗ >> No.

5:04 ↗ >> No.

5:05 ↗ >> Does your employer have an interest

5:06 ↗ financial or otherwise in the outcome?

5:08 ↗ >> No.

5:09 ↗ >> No.

5:10 ↗ >> Do you have any familial, social, or

5:12 ↗ business relationships or connections

5:14 ↗ with any of the parties or nonparties

5:16 ↗ who have an interest in the outcome?

5:18 ↗ >> No.

5:19 ↗ >> No. No.

5:21 ↗ >> Do you have any special knowledge about

5:22 ↗ the substantive or the merits of this

5:24 ↗ proceeding which would or could cause

5:26 ↗ you to prejudge the outcome?

5:28 ↗ >> No.

5:29 ↗ >> No.

5:33 ↗ >> Will there be any prospective employment

5:35 ↗ for you or your family as a result of

5:36 ↗ the decision?

5:38 ↗ >> No.

5:39 ↗ >> No.

5:40 ↗ >> Do you own or control property within

5:42 ↗ 300 ft of the subject property?

5:44 ↗ >> No.

5:45 ↗ >> No.

5:45 ↗ >> No. Have you had any exparte

5:48 ↗ communications regarding this project?

5:50 ↗ >> No.

5:51 ↗ >> No.

5:52 ↗ >> Thank you.

5:56 ↗ >> Overall, do you believe you can sit and

5:57 ↗ hear this matter fairly and impartially

5:59 ↗ both as to the respective positions of

6:01 ↗ the proponents and the opponents of this

6:03 ↗ matter?

6:05 ↗ >> Yes.

6:09 ↗ >> Thank you. Commissioners, questions for

6:10 ↗ the audience. Does anyone in attendance

6:13 ↗ wish to challenge the participation of

6:15 ↗ any commissioner based on the appearance

6:16 ↗ of fairness doctrine?

6:20 ↗ Okay. Any objections virtually? If you

6:23 ↗ have a virtual objection, please type

6:24 ↗ objection into the chat window or raise

6:26 ↗ your hand.

6:32 ↗ No.

6:34 ↗ All right.

6:35 ↗ Thank you. Now I open the public hearing

6:38 ↗ at

6:40 ↗ 6:40 p.m. First, we'll proceed with the

6:43 ↗ staff presentation. Emily, I'll need to

6:45 ↗ swear you in. Please state your name and

6:47 ↗ position with the city for the record.

6:49 ↗ >> Emily Medina, senior planner.

6:52 ↗ >> Do you swear by oath or affirmation that

6:53 ↗ the testimony you're about to provide is

6:55 ↗ true? I do.

6:56 ↗ >> Thank you. Please proceed. Thank you. So

6:59 ↗ tonight we're here uh for our public

7:01 ↗ hearing to hear about the Isqua High

7:03 ↗ School number four and elementary school

7:05 ↗ number 17 master site plan and site

7:08 ↗ development permit major amendment.

7:11 ↗ Uh a little background on the uh context

7:16 ↗ of the project. It is located at 4221

7:19 ↗ 228th Avenue Southeast. It's zoned CFF

7:23 ↗ which is our community facilities

7:24 ↗ facility zoning with a designate land

7:26 ↗ use designation of community facilities

7:29 ↗ and it is in the Providence Point sub

7:30 ↗ area.

7:34 ↗ So uh going into the history of this

7:36 ↗ permit as we are here tonight to talk

7:38 ↗ about an amendment to the original

7:40 ↗ permit. So, a site development permit

7:42 ↗ and a master site plan as well as uh

7:45 ↗ multiple administrative adjustment of

7:47 ↗ standards um were heard before a public

7:50 ↗ hearing before the development

7:51 ↗ commission and then a decision was

7:52 ↗ issued by city council. Uh it was

7:55 ↗ approved with 52 land use conditions

7:57 ↗ which incorporated 82 SEIPA mitigation

7:59 ↗ measures all of which still apply to the

8:02 ↗ project today um even with the

8:04 ↗ amendment. The original proposal was for

8:07 ↗ a consolidated high school and

8:08 ↗ elementary school campus. Uh this

8:11 ↗ includes many site amenities such as a

8:12 ↗ stadium with track and field and

8:14 ↗ grandstands, baseball and softball

8:16 ↗ fields, tennis courts, outdoor learning

8:17 ↗ space, playground, parking garage, and

8:20 ↗ then the typical landscaping circulation

8:22 ↗ utility improvements on site.

8:27 ↗ So the process for the amendment um this

8:31 ↗ procedure is reviewed under the current

8:33 ↗ isqua municipal code. In the current

8:36 ↗ isqua municipal code, there is no longer

8:38 ↗ a master site plan permit. Um so

8:40 ↗ amendments to my master site plan

8:43 ↗ permits are combined with the criteria

8:44 ↗ for site development permits. So only

8:46 ↗ one amendment application is required as

8:50 ↗ the uh review criteria are the same. um

8:54 ↗ it is required to go through a major

8:56 ↗ amendment process due to the change of

8:58 ↗ the facade that's greater than 10% and

9:01 ↗ changes that are inconsistent with what

9:03 ↗ was originally uh approved. So that a

9:06 ↗ major amendment requires a level four

9:08 ↗ review which requires a hearing in a

9:11 ↗ decision by the development commission.

9:13 ↗ The scope of this review is narrow. It

9:15 ↗ is focused on the proposed changes and

9:17 ↗ the compliance of those changes with the

9:19 ↗ code.

9:25 ↗ So, uh, when it comes to code

9:26 ↗ compliance, this project is vested to

9:28 ↗ the 2021 land use code. So, the code

9:31 ↗ that was in place when applied. Um, as I

9:34 ↗ said, the conditions of the approved SDP

9:36 ↗ and MSP and associated SEPA, MDNS

9:39 ↗ mitigation measures still apply to this

9:42 ↗ project. Um, compliance of the proposed

9:45 ↗ changes was reviewed against by all

9:47 ↗ original approval criteria in code

9:49 ↗ sections in that vested code. that

9:51 ↗ includes the design checklist and all

9:53 ↗ all the various um sections of the

9:55 ↗ vested code. Many sections of the code

9:57 ↗ were not impacted by the proposed major

10:00 ↗ amendment. Um the staff report is

10:02 ↗ organized in order of code sections and

10:04 ↗ you'll see some are just outlined as

10:06 ↗ being not applicable as the proposed

10:07 ↗ amendment does not impact those code

10:09 ↗ sections. Um the presentation will just

10:12 ↗ focus on the key changes and the

10:14 ↗ compliance of the application with those

10:16 ↗ key changes.

10:20 ↗ So the proposed changes um the first one

10:23 ↗ is with the phasing. It used to just be

10:26 ↗ phase one and phase two with the

10:27 ↗ original application. It has now been

10:29 ↗ split up with phase one being split into

10:31 ↗ phase 1 A and phase 1B. Phase two the

10:34 ↗ elementary school remains. Um what's so

10:38 ↗ phasing is the first part that is under

10:40 ↗ review tonight um within the development

10:42 ↗ commission scope. The second part is the

10:44 ↗ building design for phase 1A. So, um the

10:47 ↗ changes of that include entry revisions.

10:50 ↗ So, a canopy has been added to the entry

10:51 ↗ and it's been shifted a bit. Um the

10:54 ↗ loading dock and trash enclosure area

10:56 ↗ has been relocated on the site. It um

10:59 ↗ used to be on the west on the east side

11:02 ↗ and now it is on the west. Um there's a

11:05 ↗ additional outdoor classroom space and

11:07 ↗ then revisions of the facade um

11:09 ↗ including window and roof heights. Uh

11:12 ↗ when it comes to the site, the revisions

11:15 ↗ that are proposed with the amendment are

11:17 ↗ the parking at the entryway. Um the

11:19 ↗ orientation has been changed. One

11:21 ↗ additional tree is being removed. And

11:24 ↗ then there are some landscape changes to

11:26 ↗ accommodate the phasing. So the

11:27 ↗ landscape changes for instance with the

11:30 ↗ loading dock and trash enclosure moving.

11:32 ↗ There's new landscaping around those and

11:34 ↗ fences and walls to meet the review

11:37 ↗ criteria. And then there's also

11:39 ↗ modifications to some plantings um

11:42 ↗ materials on site like talk the fence

11:44 ↗ and walls due to moving site elements um

11:46 ↗ as well as storm and utilities and these

11:48 ↗ are all to accommodate the design and

11:50 ↗ programming changes of the building.

11:56 ↗ So looking at the phasing um phase one

12:00 ↗ from the original prop approved plan

12:03 ↗ like I said is now proposed as phase 1 A

12:05 ↗ and phase 1 B. Phase 1 A is in the green

12:09 ↗ on your screen. 1B is the yellow and

12:11 ↗ phase two is the red. Phase 1 A includes

12:14 ↗ the all the street improvements, the

12:16 ↗ circulation except for the access road

12:18 ↗ back to the elementary school. It

12:19 ↗ includes landscaping such as all the

12:21 ↗ street trees that are required along the

12:23 ↗ roads um and the landscaping around the

12:26 ↗ parking garage for instance. Um it

12:28 ↗ includes building of the west wing of

12:30 ↗ the high school, the track and field and

12:33 ↗ bleachers and a portion of the parking

12:35 ↗ garage. You can see the southern portion

12:37 ↗ is highlighted in green for phase 1 A.

12:42 ↗ Phase 1B will complete all the original

12:45 ↗ phase 1 work which includes the east

12:47 ↗ wing of the high school, the remainder

12:48 ↗ of the parking, baseball and softball

12:51 ↗ fields and all their associated walls.

12:53 ↗ It will complete the stadium and the

12:55 ↗ grand stands and the remaining site

12:57 ↗ improvements. There's no change to phase

12:59 ↗ two which is the elementary school. And

13:01 ↗ then um of note is that each phase must

13:04 ↗ meet all code requirements. So we're not

13:06 ↗ just assessing the end of phase 1B or

13:08 ↗ the end of what was phase one that it

13:10 ↗ meets code that where phase 1 A stops

13:13 ↗ must also meet all code requirements.

13:18 ↗ So one of the changes that I talked

13:20 ↗ about was the parking. Um so highlighted

13:23 ↗ here uh the top circle is where parking

13:26 ↗ changed from angled to parallel near the

13:28 ↗ school entry. Um the parking structure

13:31 ↗ like we just saw on that schematic is

13:33 ↗ now split between two phases. Um the

13:35 ↗ original approved one of the original

13:37 ↗ approved AAS's um it's AAS 21002

13:42 ↗ allows for shared parking for the

13:43 ↗ stadium and the school. Um so what was

13:46 ↗ done is it essentially was assessed how

13:49 ↗ much parking would be required for the

13:50 ↗ stadium and how much parking would be

13:51 ↗ required for the school and whichever

13:53 ↗ was more is the number that was used for

13:55 ↗ required parking for the site. that same

13:58 ↗ as and that same uh method is applied to

14:01 ↗ the phasing. Um so what's required for

14:03 ↗ car parking is 178 spaces and what's

14:06 ↗ proposed far exceeds it with 341.

14:09 ↗ 89 of those were required to be in

14:11 ↗ structure and 173 are proposed to be in

14:14 ↗ the structure. Um for bicycle parking

14:17 ↗ nine spots are required for phase 1 A

14:19 ↗ and 24 are proposed.

14:25 ↗ Um so for the landscaping changes so all

14:28 ↗ landscaping must adhere to all code

14:31 ↗ requirements at the end of phase 1 A. Um

14:33 ↗ so this is assessing to make sure where

14:35 ↗ the construction stops at phase 1 A

14:37 ↗ everything is met. Um some changes

14:40 ↗ include uh parking area landscaping. You

14:43 ↗ know since only half the parking

14:44 ↗ structure is being built at phase 1 A

14:46 ↗ making sure that all that perimeter

14:47 ↗ landscaping is going to be there. Um the

14:50 ↗ rooftop architectural element. Um it's a

14:52 ↗ certain square footage that had to be

14:54 ↗ met. So with only half the parking

14:55 ↗ structure being built, um more

14:58 ↗ architectural element needed to be

15:00 ↗ built. So that phase 1A complied with

15:02 ↗ the required square footage of

15:03 ↗ architectural treatment on the rooftop.

15:05 ↗ Um so architectural element was added on

15:08 ↗ the southernmost portion of the screen.

15:10 ↗ You can see that in the blue crosshatch.

15:13 ↗ Um and then fencing and walls like I

15:16 ↗ mentioned earlier because of some of the

15:17 ↗ moving of the pro programmatic elements

15:20 ↗ um especially the trash enclosure and

15:22 ↗ loading dock. um some the landscaping

15:24 ↗ had to be assessed to make sure they

15:26 ↗ were properly screened um to make sure

15:28 ↗ that all the plantings were in place and

15:30 ↗ the walls and fences that were proposed

15:32 ↗ because of these changed programmatic

15:34 ↗ elements met the code. Um and then one

15:37 ↗ additional tree is being removed. Um the

15:39 ↗ tree retention still complies and uh

15:41 ↗ even with the one removal there's no

15:43 ↗ change in the percent that's retained

15:44 ↗ from the original approval.

15:50 ↗ All right. So, building design um the

15:53 ↗ building design for phase 1 A was uh

15:55 ↗ reviewed against the design criteria

15:57 ↗ checklist and all changes comply with

16:00 ↗ the design criteria checklist that's

16:01 ↗ included as an exhibit to the staff

16:03 ↗ report. Um going through what those

16:05 ↗ major changes are, facade changes, um

16:09 ↗ the entry revision to the north building

16:11 ↗ um to add entry doors and a metal

16:13 ↗ canopy. Uh the canopy and fencing on the

16:16 ↗ south side for the new outdoor classroom

16:18 ↗ space. Um that's and then the window

16:21 ↗ locations and roof heights changed um

16:23 ↗ due to the interior programmatic

16:25 ↗ changes. They had to move around some

16:27 ↗ windows. And then you can see some color

16:29 ↗ changes, but it still maintains the

16:30 ↗ earth tones and maintains compliance um

16:33 ↗ with the design criteria.

16:37 ↗ And the last one is the mechanical

16:39 ↗ equipment. Um the location change at the

16:41 ↗ high school um it's required to meet all

16:44 ↗ of the waste enclosure and screening

16:47 ↗ requirements. So, it meets those

16:48 ↗ setbacks, design, screening. Um, it has

16:51 ↗ a masonary wall and ornamental fencing

16:54 ↗ and a black vinyl chain link gate.

16:58 ↗ And then the last kind of group of

17:01 ↗ changes is the site design. Um, so what

17:04 ↗ you're seeing on your screen with a

17:05 ↗ schematic is the phase 1A storm water

17:07 ↗ plan. Um, everything circled in red is a

17:10 ↗ storm water detention facility. So the

17:13 ↗ original approval had storm water vaults

17:16 ↗ and detention ponds in seven locations.

17:18 ↗ The proposed phase 1A has a combination

17:20 ↗ of seven structures still. Um it just

17:22 ↗ includes one vault and six detention

17:24 ↗ ponds. Um future phases proposed to

17:27 ↗ convert several of the detention ponds

17:29 ↗ into vaults. Um all storm water

17:32 ↗ facilities must fully must be fully

17:34 ↗ constructed and operational in

17:36 ↗ accordance with the approved plans at

17:37 ↗ the time of each phases completion. Um

17:40 ↗ and as proposed that will be met um and

17:43 ↗ is of course also reviewed further with

17:45 ↗ construction permitting. All frontage

17:48 ↗ improvements and internal circulation

17:49 ↗ except for the elementary school access

17:51 ↗ road will be constructed as part of

17:53 ↗ phase 1 A.

17:56 ↗ Is there any questions?

18:04 ↗ >> Richard.

18:07 ↗ Um,

18:09 ↗ first I wonder how does the change in

18:11 ↗ the phasing affect the overall project

18:13 ↗ time frame? Do we know?

18:18 ↗ >> I will let the applicant speak to that

18:19 ↗ during their presentation, but the

18:21 ↗ timing of the phasing is not a criteria

18:23 ↗ that is evaluated against.

18:28 ↗ >> Okay.

18:29 ↗ So land use condition 42

18:33 ↗ says that financial security is required

18:35 ↗ in lie of providing the financial

18:37 ↗ security school district shall provide a

18:40 ↗ letter of commitment identifying the

18:41 ↗ scope of work to be completed and the

18:43 ↗ time frame for completion. Is that

18:45 ↗ correct?

18:46 ↗ >> Correct.

18:47 ↗ >> Okay. Thanks. And I was curious about

18:50 ↗ how many vaults will we have by the end

18:52 ↗ of phase one including 1 A and 1B. Um,

18:58 ↗ looks like 1A will only have one vault.

19:00 ↗ Is that right? And at the end of first

19:03 ↗ phase, how many underground vaults will

19:06 ↗ we have and how many detention ponds?

19:09 ↗ >> Um, our city engineer is online and I

19:14 ↗ will let her answer the engineer related

19:16 ↗ questions. Uh, she'll provide far more

19:18 ↗ accuracy than I would. Um, Elaine, are

19:21 ↗ you able to answer that question?

19:24 ↗ Um, so I I guess you can repeat the

19:26 ↗ question. You're asking how many balls

19:28 ↗ are going to be after phase one.

19:31 ↗ >> Correct.

19:32 ↗ >> Correct. Both both the uh subphases A

19:35 ↗ and B.

19:36 ↗ >> So for phase one, the vault will be

19:38 ↗ underneath the the baseball field. I

19:40 ↗ mean underneath the football fields. And

19:42 ↗ then for phase B, um the ponds by that

19:46 ↗ that are out by the baseball fields will

19:48 ↗ be converted to underground vaults when

19:50 ↗ the baseball fields are built.

19:53 ↗ Okay. So, will that be five at that

19:56 ↗ point?

19:59 ↗ >> Five.

20:01 ↗ >> There'll be two vaults and then there's

20:03 ↗ uh I think

20:06 ↗ four or five ponds that are around the

20:09 ↗ perimeter of the property.

20:14 ↗ >> Okay. Okay. And uh the staff report

20:18 ↗ refers to the clearing and grading

20:20 ↗ beyond phase one and subsequent phase 1B

20:24 ↗ area is necessary to serve the project

20:26 ↗ due to site improvements such as storm

20:28 ↗ water and utilities. Can you speak to

20:32 ↗ which necessary site improvements such

20:34 ↗ as storm water and utilities will be

20:36 ↗ required in the elementary school area

20:39 ↗ in phase 1 A? In other words, in phase 1

20:43 ↗ A, which of those improvements that will

20:48 ↗ occur

20:49 ↗ in the elementary school area are

20:52 ↗ actually required for phase 1 A.

20:59 ↗ >> I'm going to defer to to uh Todd, who is

21:02 ↗ the design engineer, to answer some of

21:04 ↗ these questions um about the specifics

21:07 ↗ of what the design entails. Should we

21:10 ↗ save some of these till after the

21:12 ↗ >> application?

21:14 ↗ Save that for the applicant. Thank you.

21:15 ↗ >> Some of the more specific engineering

21:16 ↗ ones the applicant can get into the

21:18 ↗ technical details.

21:19 ↗ >> Yeah. And I do have more but I'm going

21:20 ↗ to delay those chair in the interest of

21:24 ↗ time if I am able to recall staff during

21:28 ↗ deliberation.

21:30 ↗ >> Thank you.

21:30 ↗ >> Y thank you.

21:33 ↗ Now we'll proceed with the applicants.

21:34 ↗ >> I'm sorry.

21:35 ↗ >> Oh, sorry. Go ahead, Mel.

21:36 ↗ >> It's okay. Um question on um condition

21:40 ↗ 11. I think it was had a requirement

21:42 ↗ that if complete applications for future

21:45 ↗ phases hadn't been filed by the time the

21:47 ↗ high school building receives its

21:50 ↗ temporary certificate of occupancy, no

21:52 ↗ further extensions would be granted. So

21:55 ↗ now we have two high schools. Is there a

21:59 ↗ decision as to does it mean would that

22:02 ↗ mean that both phases of the high school

22:04 ↗ are built or just phase 1A?

22:09 ↗ >> Can you repeat the wording of the

22:11 ↗ condition again? Which one you referring

22:12 ↗ to?

22:12 ↗ >> It says condition 11, if complete

22:15 ↗ applications for construction permits

22:16 ↗ for future phases have not been filed by

22:19 ↗ the time the high school building

22:20 ↗ receives its temporary certificate of

22:23 ↗ occupancy,

22:24 ↗ no further extensions shall be granted.

22:28 ↗ So does that mean

22:32 ↗ >> so the building permit for the next

22:34 ↗ phase needs to be submitted prior to TCO

22:36 ↗ for the first phase.

22:39 ↗ >> Yes.

22:40 ↗ >> And does that mean TCO for phase 1 A or

22:45 ↗ >> correct for phase 1 A?

22:47 ↗ >> So just the first Okay.

22:49 ↗ >> Correct.

22:52 ↗ Sorry, I'm trying to read it, see it in

22:54 ↗ my mind. But yes, for phase 1A, the I

22:56 ↗ believe the wording of the condition

22:58 ↗ says for future phases. So now that it's

23:00 ↗ split up, the first phase, the second

23:03 ↗ phase would need to be submitted for by

23:05 ↗ the first phase TCO.

23:07 ↗ >> Okay, thank you.

23:12 ↗ >> Could you describe the programming

23:13 ↗ changes that that drove this the changes

23:16 ↗ in building

23:17 ↗ >> that one? And I will also let the

23:18 ↗ applicant describe the motivation behind

23:20 ↗ the changes.

23:22 ↗ >> Okay. What the other just the follow on

23:24 ↗ would be was it significant enough that

23:27 ↗ the the need for the space wasn't

23:29 ↗ required? So you did two phases or was

23:31 ↗ that a constructability? I I'll wait for

23:34 ↗ them. Thanks.

23:38 ↗ >> Any other staff questions?

23:42 ↗ >> All right. Now we'll proceed with the

23:44 ↗ applicant's presentation.

23:59 ↗ And before you begin, I'll need to swear

24:01 ↗ you in.

24:04 ↗ >> One second.

24:46 ↗ Good evening. My name is Todd Sawin. I'm

24:49 ↗ a civil engineer with AHBL re

24:53 ↗ sorry um representing the applicant.

24:56 ↗ >> Do you swear by oath or affirmation that

24:58 ↗ the testimony you're about to provide is

24:59 ↗ true?

25:00 ↗ >> I do.

25:01 ↗ >> Thank you. Please proceed.

25:04 ↗ So, um, there's a lot of information in

25:06 ↗ the record. Really thank staff and all

25:09 ↗ of you for being here tonight to talk

25:10 ↗ about our project. Um, we've been on a

25:13 ↗ long process to get here. I think Emily

25:14 ↗ did a really good job of explaining, you

25:16 ↗ know, the work to get up to the 2022

25:19 ↗ approval and then what we've been doing

25:21 ↗ to get to here. So, I'm not going to

25:24 ↗ cover all the details of stuff. I'm

25:26 ↗ happy to answer questions and things

25:27 ↗ when we get to the end. There's some key

25:29 ↗ pieces I want to talk about. a couple of

25:31 ↗ the questions you you've brought up

25:33 ↗ already. So, um I'm I'm gonna kind of

25:36 ↗ try to keep my part brief and so we can

25:38 ↗ have as much time for public comment as

25:39 ↗ possible, but again, I'm happy to answer

25:41 ↗ questions. Um

25:46 ↗ okay, so the original amendment Emily

25:50 ↗ mentioned that we're so we have a whole

25:53 ↗ bunch of conditions on this project and

25:54 ↗ you guys have been referencing them kind

25:56 ↗ of in discussions already. So, we're not

25:59 ↗ changing any of those. So the idea that

26:01 ↗ we need to submit the next phase of

26:04 ↗ building permit before we get TCO, the

26:07 ↗ school district totally understands that

26:09 ↗ idea. Um and if we don't do that, we

26:11 ↗ have to come back through the land use

26:13 ↗ process. So that piece we we totally

26:16 ↗ understand the um economics of the

26:20 ↗ project. Obviously the school district's

26:22 ↗ a public public agency. You know them

26:25 ↗ being able to do projects is based on

26:27 ↗ funding. So, they have funds to do phase

26:30 ↗ 1A. Right now, they're going to acquire

26:33 ↗ funds for the future phases. Um, Martin

26:37 ↗ can talk later if you guys have specific

26:39 ↗ questions about that process, but um

26:43 ↗ it's a little bit unknown on our side

26:44 ↗ just based on the way funding and

26:47 ↗ bonding and all that stuff works. Um,

26:50 ↗ so Emily mentioned that the phase 1A

26:54 ↗ portion of the site, we meet the code

26:56 ↗ requirements. So that's the code

26:57 ↗ requirements for the landscaping, the

27:00 ↗ storm water. So the storm water system

27:02 ↗ we're proposing meets the department of

27:04 ↗ ecology storm water manual as currently

27:06 ↗ adopted by the city of Isiqua. That is

27:08 ↗ the one thing that we took to the new

27:11 ↗ code. Well, there's a couple things

27:13 ↗ we've taken to new code. So for life

27:15 ↗ safety purposes, we took we using the

27:18 ↗ current um building code. So we're

27:22 ↗ vested to the 2015 code. decided that

27:25 ↗ what made more sense was to use current

27:28 ↗ codes. So, um, same thing with storm

27:30 ↗ water. There's no reason for us to not

27:33 ↗ come to the new manual. So, what you're

27:34 ↗ seeing is meeting the current storm

27:36 ↗ water code for for those two pieces.

27:39 ↗ From a land use perspective, we're still

27:42 ↗ vested to the old city code. So, there's

27:45 ↗ a few nuances in that. Um, as part of

27:48 ↗ those improvements, we're proposing to

27:50 ↗ do all the frontage improvements. So,

27:51 ↗ there's work to 228th and 43rd. We've

27:54 ↗ submitted permits for both of those.

27:56 ↗ We're in process of getting those

27:58 ↗ permits as part of this construction.

28:01 ↗ We're proposing to do all the buffering

28:02 ↗ requirements that are in there. So the

28:06 ↗ we'll get to a couple of slides from

28:07 ↗ now, but there the site plan that showed

28:09 ↗ the phasing. Um there's a lot of white

28:11 ↗ areas around the outside. Those are all

28:13 ↗ the existing trees. We're not touching

28:15 ↗ them. So we didn't want to depict that

28:16 ↗ we were doing work in those areas, but

28:18 ↗ that that is part of phase 1A that we're

28:20 ↗ maintaining those buffers and all those

28:22 ↗ pieces. Um,

28:25 ↗ okay.

28:27 ↗ So, the first thing I wanted to talk

28:28 ↗ about was the trees. So, um, and this is

28:32 ↗ an image out of the public comments just

28:33 ↗ because it seemed like that was the the

28:35 ↗ best way to talk about this. Um, so in

28:39 ↗ two dimensions, you look at our site

28:40 ↗ plan and it seems like, hey, why don't

28:42 ↗ you just save the trees that are in the

28:43 ↗ elementary school area, save the trees

28:45 ↗ that are in the future baseball fields

28:48 ↗ and and all those pieces. And I can

28:50 ↗ believe believe me when we got this I

28:52 ↗ had the same thought in two dimensions

28:54 ↗ it makes complete sense. The problem is

28:56 ↗ our site's not flat. So we have about 70

28:59 ↗ ft of elevation difference between 228th

29:02 ↗ and the top of the hill that we need to

29:04 ↗ make up. And then school site um

29:07 ↗ programming has a lot of really flat

29:09 ↗ surfaces. So baseball fields you can't

29:11 ↗ build monos slope they're flat. Football

29:13 ↗ field tracks all those pieces right. So

29:16 ↗ we start taking those things into

29:17 ↗ consideration and we need to move the

29:19 ↗ dirt. We need to put the dirt somewhere.

29:21 ↗ And our proposal from the beginning has

29:22 ↗ been we're going to keep as much of the

29:24 ↗ dirt as possible on this site. So if we

29:28 ↗ don't cut down the trees as part of this

29:30 ↗ phase,

29:32 ↗ we need to haul off 150,000 yards of

29:35 ↗ dirt. It's a really big number. It's

29:37 ↗ really hard to comprehend. So I'm going

29:38 ↗ to break that down just a little bit. So

29:42 ↗ if we So that's 7,500 trucks and

29:46 ↗ trailers coming in and out of the site

29:49 ↗ to be able to do that. So 7,500 trucks

29:51 ↗ leaving the site. So if we assume a

29:53 ↗ truck leaves the site every 10 10 trips

29:57 ↗ an hour, so which is really fast for

29:59 ↗ them loading, but to make the math easy,

30:01 ↗ that's what I used. Um, it would take us

30:04 ↗ 18 weeks of truck traffic down 228th,

30:08 ↗ down 43rd to wherever we're taking that

30:10 ↗ dirt. And then there is the off-site

30:13 ↗ issues of, you know, where do we

30:14 ↗ actually put it? How do we get rid of

30:16 ↗ it? Um, all those things. So, from an

30:18 ↗ environmental standpoint, it makes more

30:20 ↗ sense to cut the trees down that were a

30:23 ↗ that were in the original approval, move

30:26 ↗ that dirt on site. The other half of

30:28 ↗ that is if we haul off all that dirt in

30:30 ↗ phase one A, in phase 1B when we build

30:34 ↗ the football field and in phase two when

30:36 ↗ we build the elementary school, we need

30:38 ↗ to haul in the same amount of dirt. So

30:41 ↗ we're from an environmental standpoint,

30:43 ↗ it makes more sense to do the earth work

30:45 ↗ on our site and that's why we proposed

30:47 ↗ removing the trees as part of this phase

30:49 ↗ 1A.

30:51 ↗ to illustrate that a little bit.

30:54 ↗ So this is a cut and fill map of our

30:57 ↗ site. So the blue areas are where we're

30:59 ↗ filling. So kind of what you would

31:00 ↗ expect kind of the football field or not

31:03 ↗ the football the elementary school and

31:05 ↗ the outfield of the baseball field is

31:07 ↗ where we're filling and we're cutting

31:08 ↗ kind of from the center. So the site

31:10 ↗ kind of slopes off has a little ridge

31:12 ↗ that runs down it. So we're cutting kind

31:13 ↗ of from that center portion to create

31:15 ↗ these flat surfaces off to the side.

31:21 ↗ Next thing I wanted to talk about was

31:22 ↗ the phasing. So, um I think Emily did a

31:26 ↗ really good job of covering the colors

31:27 ↗ of it. The thing I wanted to point out

31:30 ↗ is the the 228th improvements are

31:33 ↗ definitely part of what we're doing at

31:34 ↗ the beginning. All the sepha mitigation

31:37 ↗ and things that we've proposed are

31:39 ↗ happening at the beginning of the

31:40 ↗ project. Um, there is some temporary

31:42 ↗ ponds and things that are being

31:44 ↗ constructed. And the only reason they're

31:46 ↗ temporary, so we could go put the vaults

31:49 ↗ and those pieces in right now, but until

31:51 ↗ you put the final surfacing on, you're

31:54 ↗ not able to adjust all those things to

31:55 ↗ final grade. You're going to have to

31:56 ↗ touch them again. So, from a cost

31:58 ↗ standpoint, it doesn't make sense to put

32:00 ↗ them underground and then have to touch

32:01 ↗ them again and spend more money on them.

32:04 ↗ In the documents, um, there's some

32:07 ↗ unfortunate wording on my part. Um, I

32:09 ↗ call them above ground ponds, and I

32:12 ↗ think you'll see that in some of the

32:13 ↗ public comments. Uh, they're not above

32:16 ↗ ground. They're open air, so it's a

32:17 ↗ regular storm pond like you would see

32:19 ↗ anywhere else in the city. Um, but

32:21 ↗ they're not above ground. It's just

32:23 ↗ unfortunate on my part. Um, so, so

32:27 ↗ they're sized to meet the detention

32:29 ↗ requirements for our site. All the all

32:32 ↗ the calculations and everything have

32:33 ↗ been submitted to the city of Isiqua and

32:35 ↗ we're working through the permit process

32:36 ↗ with them. um to ultimately get permits

32:39 ↗ to be able to do that. But we're in

32:41 ↗ conformance. We're treating all the

32:43 ↗ storm water leaving the site. Um all

32:45 ↗ those pieces as part of it. Um

32:51 ↗ the question about the the vaults

32:54 ↗ themselves, like the number of vaults,

32:56 ↗ so there's there's there's actually two

32:58 ↗ vaults in phase one A. So there's

33:01 ↗ there's a there's one right down by the

33:03 ↗ entryway and there's one under the

33:05 ↗ football field.

33:07 ↗ And then you have the sixA

33:10 ↗ there's there'll be three at the end of

33:14 ↗ phase 1 A and B. So the one under the

33:16 ↗ baseball field gets turned into a vault.

33:19 ↗ All the ones on the elementary school

33:21 ↗ stay where they were.

33:24 ↗ The next thing I want to talk about was

33:26 ↗ the floor area ratio. So my intent is

33:29 ↗ not for you to read all the tiny little

33:31 ↗ text I just put up here. So here's some

33:33 ↗ images out of the original AAS that was

33:35 ↗ approved to reduce our floor area. So as

33:38 ↗ you can see from the map, the the whole

33:40 ↗ site was counted as part of that

33:43 ↗ calculation. So we had to come up with

33:45 ↗ areas that were being used for different

33:47 ↗ things as part of the school program,

33:49 ↗ community uses, those pieces, the

33:51 ↗ building area against that. You can see

33:54 ↗ we don't get credit for things like the

33:56 ↗ parking garage and other pieces. So

33:59 ↗ there's a lot of this that is just not

34:01 ↗ colored. So anything that's not color,

34:02 ↗ we don't get credit for. And so

34:04 ↗ basically, you're taking the building

34:05 ↗ area, comparing it to that. The original

34:08 ↗ approval had the phasing included in it.

34:11 ↗ So we had the elementary school, all the

34:13 ↗ program for the elementary school

34:15 ↗ included in that calculation. So our

34:17 ↗ proposed revision to this to add an

34:19 ↗ additional phase doesn't change that

34:21 ↗ underlying approval. I'm sure you're

34:23 ↗ going to hear about that. I just wanted

34:24 ↗ to mention that that's um that was

34:27 ↗ previously phased and there's no change

34:29 ↗ to that as part of this amendment.

34:34 ↗ The final thing we wanted to talk about

34:36 ↗ was the facade changes and I'm probably

34:38 ↗ going to bring Kim up and I'm guessing

34:39 ↗ you need to swear her in.

34:47 ↗ >> Please state your name for the record.

34:48 ↗ >> I'm Kim Young. I'm an architect with

34:50 ↗ Betetti Architects. And do you swear by

34:52 ↗ oath or affirmation that the testimony

34:54 ↗ you were about to provide is true?

34:55 ↗ >> I do.

34:56 ↗ >> Thank you.

34:58 ↗ >> Um so as um Emily talked about earlier,

35:01 ↗ we do have some facade changes. Um the

35:03 ↗ first thing to know is that both phase 1

35:06 ↗ A and phase 1B are within the previously

35:09 ↗ approved footprint. So we're not

35:11 ↗ expanding or contracting the building at

35:13 ↗ all. It'll fit within the previous

35:15 ↗ footprint. Also, we're not proposing any

35:18 ↗ changes to materials. We are using the

35:21 ↗ same materials. We're using the same

35:22 ↗ patterning and proportions. The windows

35:25 ↗ to materials are the same. The big

35:28 ↗ change is that we have um you know,

35:31 ↗ again, as Emily mentioned, we have

35:33 ↗ programmatic changes on the interior of

35:35 ↗ the building. So, windows have adjusted

35:37 ↗ to work with those interior spaces. And

35:40 ↗ in fact, we have more windows now

35:42 ↗ because the west wing of the building

35:44 ↗ was primarily athletic facilities. So

35:46 ↗ the gymnasium, the auxiliary gymnasium,

35:49 ↗ those spaces don't typically have a lot

35:51 ↗ of windows. You don't want balls being

35:52 ↗ thrown at a glass, but now we have

35:55 ↗ learning spaces, so we were able to

35:57 ↗ increase the windows. Um, how do I

36:04 ↗ um so this was um this was the previous

36:07 ↗ um version of the facade. Um, so we just

36:10 ↗ wanted to share that with you and then

36:12 ↗ show you the current um updated

36:15 ↗ rendering. So you can see that the

36:17 ↗ proportions and the patterns are very

36:19 ↗ much the same as they were before. So

36:22 ↗ the big changes that we've made are we

36:24 ↗ did have to shift over the main entry.

36:27 ↗ It's still on the north facade like it

36:29 ↗ was previously, but it was part of what

36:32 ↗ is going to now be phase 1B. So we had

36:34 ↗ to move it over to phase 1 A. still has

36:36 ↗ a lot of glazing at the entry and big

36:38 ↗ canopy and that's um what you see in

36:41 ↗ this facade. The other thing we did was

36:44 ↗ um add on the south side of the building

36:47 ↗ a canopy and a fenced in area for an

36:51 ↗ outdoor kind of classroom workspace for

36:53 ↗ students that come off of some shops and

36:56 ↗ studio areas

36:58 ↗ on the east side of the building. You

37:01 ↗ didn't see that facade before of of this

37:04 ↗ phase because that was an interior wall.

37:06 ↗ That's now an exterior wall in the

37:08 ↗ temporary situation until the next phase

37:10 ↗ is built. And that um the commons and

37:14 ↗ cafeteria are on the other side of that.

37:16 ↗ So you'll see a lot of glazing there as

37:18 ↗ well as another canopy so students can

37:20 ↗ go out during lunchtime and have their

37:22 ↗ lunch. Um eventually that'll become an

37:25 ↗ interior wall and we'll just be a it's

37:27 ↗ built like an exterior wall, but we'll

37:29 ↗ be able to keep that in place.

37:33 ↗ Um then as also was previously

37:35 ↗ mentioned, we did move the loading dock

37:37 ↗ over to the west side of the building

37:39 ↗ and that's so it works with the new

37:40 ↗ program on the interior. So it's

37:43 ↗ connected to the kitchen to um uh

37:46 ↗ custodial loading and receiving as well

37:49 ↗ as other infrastructure spaces like

37:51 ↗ mechanical and electrical rooms. And

37:53 ↗ then finally the uh building height came

37:56 ↗ down a little bit in parts because we

37:59 ↗ didn't need the same volume for the

38:01 ↗ learning spaces that we had with the

38:02 ↗ gyms. So it came down a little bit. We

38:05 ↗ do still have mechanical equipment as

38:07 ↗ was mentioned with all the required

38:10 ↗ screening, but we have less mechanical

38:12 ↗ equipment on the roof now because we did

38:14 ↗ build an internal mechanical mezzanine

38:17 ↗ so we could put some of the equipment

38:19 ↗ there and then we also have screening

38:21 ↗ around the loading dock where we have

38:23 ↗ other pieces of equipment. So those are

38:25 ↗ all the major changes with the facade.

38:32 ↗ I think with that we're ready to answer

38:34 ↗ any questions you guys have.

38:37 ↗ >> Richard, do you want to continue?

38:40 ↗ >> Okay. Uh, I'll leave the other

38:42 ↗ questions. I think you already answered

38:43 ↗ them once I asked before. Regarding uh

38:46 ↗ the sheets A1 and A2, part of them are

38:49 ↗ marked revisions and part are marked

38:51 ↗ revisions too. Can you explain the

38:53 ↗ difference between that?

38:58 ↗ >> The sheets on the exhibits. Um it was

39:00 ↗ when they first submitted we had

39:03 ↗ comments for revisions that they need to

39:04 ↗ make to become code compliant. So when

39:06 ↗ it says revision one that's their first

39:07 ↗ resubmitt and then we had more comments

39:10 ↗ for more revisions for them to make. So

39:11 ↗ that was revision two.

39:12 ↗ >> Okay. So revision two is the version

39:14 ↗ that we are to the final version.

39:17 ↗ Correct.

39:17 ↗ >> Yeah. Thank you.

39:23 ↗ >> Any other commissioners? Mill. Um, are

39:26 ↗ you able to show us the garbage

39:29 ↗ enclosure, the new one versus the old

39:31 ↗ one? And looking what we have in the

39:33 ↗ package, it's kind of hard to see what

39:35 ↗ that would how that what that looks like

39:38 ↗ on the west side.

39:42 ↗ >> Do you have an easier way to do it?

39:43 ↗ >> Okay. Okay. I have all of our the

39:46 ↗ thousands of pages of stuff we

39:47 ↗ submitted. I just don't want everybody

39:49 ↗ to sit here and watch me flip through

39:50 ↗ it. Yeah.

39:51 ↗ >> Which is what Emily's doing. And it

39:52 ↗ would and looking at that what's on the

39:54 ↗ screen now it would be on the right

39:56 ↗ side. It would be

39:56 ↗ >> it is I I guess one thing since you're

39:59 ↗ bringing that up. So

40:02 ↗ if you go back to this image you can see

40:04 ↗ it on the right here. It looks really

40:07 ↗ prominent because we've stripped away

40:10 ↗ all the landscape features and

40:11 ↗ everything. So so that is that area.

40:14 ↗ When we go to that image at the end,

40:17 ↗ you can see we put trees and everything

40:20 ↗ around that area to to keep it from

40:23 ↗ being visible.

40:25 ↗ You want me to stop?

40:26 ↗ >> And the reason for moving that from

40:28 ↗ where

40:28 ↗ >> the kitchen was previously on the other

40:30 ↗ side of the floor plan, so it was in the

40:32 ↗ phase 1B area. Obviously, we can't build

40:34 ↗ a school without a kitchen. So, we need

40:36 ↗ to find a new home for it. the way that

40:38 ↗ the site laid out with kind of the

40:40 ↗ center commons area, we it didn't make

40:43 ↗ sense to have it on that and then having

40:45 ↗ the loading dock as its own standalone

40:47 ↗ thing right now didn't make any sense.

40:50 ↗ So, moving it to the other side of the

40:52 ↗ building just seemed like it was the

40:53 ↗ right answer and works a lot better from

40:56 ↗ actually bringing trucks in and turning

40:58 ↗ them around and stuff

41:00 ↗ >> and the trucks will come from behind to

41:03 ↗ this from essentially from the south.

41:04 ↗ >> That's a good comment.

41:08 ↗ I just assume everybody's been staring

41:10 ↗ at this as long as I have. So, um, yeah.

41:13 ↗ So, from our site, you come up this

41:15 ↗ access road and then where it turns blue

41:19 ↗ here across. So, this will be bus and

41:22 ↗ service. So, the buses turn around,

41:25 ↗ park, and leave. So, that service area

41:29 ↗ ends up being right here. Now, it was

41:31 ↗ previously, you could see on this is an

41:33 ↗ old site plan, but it was previously

41:35 ↗ kind of this big turnaround thing. So,

41:38 ↗ you can imagine a truck trying to back

41:40 ↗ around this corner and down into that

41:41 ↗ loading dock. I assume you guys can see

41:43 ↗ my mouse. Okay. Um,

41:47 ↗ so trying to back down that corner was

41:49 ↗ going to be problematic. So, if we go to

41:51 ↗ the phasing plan,

41:58 ↗ the hatching doesn't help, but

42:01 ↗ Basically, it's it's this area is the

42:03 ↗ loading dock. So, the trucks will be

42:06 ↗ able to turn around and just back

42:07 ↗ straight into that area. So, a lot a lot

42:09 ↗ simpler.

42:11 ↗ >> Sorry. How did how do the trucks move in

42:13 ↗ and out there?

42:14 ↗ >> So, they're going to they're going to

42:15 ↗ pull forward and back straight in.

42:18 ↗ Then they'll have the option. We've run

42:20 ↗ turning movements where they can just

42:21 ↗ pull straight out this way or they can

42:23 ↗ come out, make the same loop the buses

42:25 ↗ make around this island at the top

42:28 ↗ >> and then come back down the hill. So all

42:29 ↗ that was plaza area before it's now

42:32 ↗ essentially kind of blocked off with the

42:34 ↗ loading dock.

42:34 ↗ >> Correct.

42:35 ↗ >> Okay. Thank you.

42:38 ↗ >> I don't think we gave you one.

42:40 ↗ >> I don't rendering of the enclosure. I

42:42 ↗ only have a site plan.

42:46 ↗ >> I think that answered my question.

42:49 ↗ It's all fenced off.

42:50 ↗ >> Yeah.

42:52 ↗ >> Probably worth noting. Um, so the

42:54 ↗ original approval, obviously we had the

42:56 ↗ elementary school as as part of that

42:58 ↗ approval. It had the loading dock right

43:00 ↗ out front of the elementary school. So

43:02 ↗ we've we've applied the same

43:04 ↗ requirements that we used for that and

43:06 ↗ the city's current code um for

43:08 ↗ screening,

43:10 ↗ but but that was part of the original

43:12 ↗ approval. The loading dock for the

43:14 ↗ elementary school, just for everybody's

43:16 ↗ reference, is this area kind of right

43:19 ↗ out in front of the elementary school.

43:23 ↗ Thank you.

43:26 ↗ Thank you, chair. Um,

43:29 ↗ I see on the sheets, I think it's sheet

43:31 ↗ C1 and probably others, there are

43:33 ↗ portables in a new high school. I was

43:36 ↗ wondering why. And do do they disappear

43:39 ↗ after 1A?

43:40 ↗ >> I would I would love to tell you that's

43:43 ↗ not that's within our control. So, it

43:46 ↗ turns out in the state of Washington, if

43:48 ↗ you do a building that has public

43:50 ↗ funding and you want any money from the

43:52 ↗ state whatsoever, you have to show

43:55 ↗ future portables.

43:57 ↗ So, it's it's a state requirement to to

44:00 ↗ get funding that we need to have a

44:02 ↗ location for those portables. The the

44:04 ↗ goal is obviously to have kids within

44:07 ↗ the building and all those pieces, but

44:09 ↗ you know, based on funding and things,

44:11 ↗ I'm not telling you they'll never be

44:12 ↗ there, but the goal is obvious to get

44:14 ↗ kids within the building.

44:18 ↗ >> Michael.

44:20 ↗ >> Yeah. So um you talked about with the

44:24 ↗ revised phasing for the project that

44:27 ↗ you'll sat the that the each phase will

44:29 ↗ satisfy the requirements landscaping

44:31 ↗ requirements uh drainage requirements

44:34 ↗ etc. So the question that's been rattled

44:36 ↗ around in my brain here is if you build

44:40 ↗ phase 1 A and then the project for

44:44 ↗ whatever reason doesn't move forward as

44:45 ↗ proposed here,

44:47 ↗ what happens to those areas that have

44:49 ↗ been disturbed with regard to the

44:52 ↗ requirements for landscaping, uh

44:54 ↗ planting of trees as part of the tree

44:57 ↗ preservation requirements, etc. What's

44:59 ↗ the plan? There's so there's a couple

45:02 ↗ ways I could probably tell you this, but

45:04 ↗ I'm going to tell you what kind of keeps

45:06 ↗ me up at night about that. So, the the

45:09 ↗ reality is we get temporary occupancy of

45:11 ↗ the building. We, you know, we're ready

45:15 ↗ to open the school, there's no funding

45:17 ↗ for the next phase, then we lose our

45:21 ↗ land use approval, right? Based on that

45:23 ↗ condition 11 that you were mentioning.

45:25 ↗ Um and we will be back in front of you

45:28 ↗ with a new proposal to do something

45:31 ↗ you've probably already reviewed um

45:33 ↗ within the phase 1B area. And it just

45:37 ↗ unfortunately the way the conditions are

45:39 ↗ written and not having the city not

45:41 ↗ having a master site plan approval

45:43 ↗ process that that spans large period of

45:46 ↗ time. So historically master site plans

45:49 ↗ are used for projects that take you know

45:51 ↗ 20 years to build and unfortunately with

45:55 ↗ the changes to the code that doesn't

45:56 ↗ exist. So um we're kind of stuck with

46:00 ↗ what's there. So those those areas would

46:02 ↗ remain disturbed until the school

46:03 ↗ district came in with a new application

46:06 ↗ to go back through land use um get

46:09 ↗ approvals and build out the rest of

46:11 ↗ their project.

46:12 ↗ >> So maybe another kind of follow-up

46:15 ↗ question. So part of the elementary

46:18 ↗ school, there's condition back to

46:19 ↗ condition 11 that Commissioner Morgan

46:22 ↗ referenced. There's a requirement for if

46:24 ↗ the permits expire and that project

46:26 ↗ doesn't move forward and the and the

46:28 ↗ master site plan um expires, there's a

46:31 ↗ condition that uh requires that the

46:34 ↗ stockpile of fill is removed and

46:36 ↗ restoration the site occurs.

46:39 ↗ So

46:41 ↗ that part of the project has a condition

46:43 ↗ that says the district needs to come in

46:45 ↗ and do something to um modify the site

46:48 ↗ to for a longer term condition. We don't

46:52 ↗ have that condition as I can see on the

46:54 ↗ current permits. Um but

46:59 ↗ what you're saying is that it would stay

47:02 ↗ in its current form after phase 1A until

47:05 ↗ a future project moves forward. Um,

47:08 ↗ okay. That that answers

47:10 ↗ >> I guess maybe just a little bit of

47:12 ↗ history on that condition and how the

47:15 ↗ removal of stockpile became a thing. Um,

47:19 ↗ we did propose putting like stockpiling

47:22 ↗ material on that site and there will be

47:23 ↗ stock piles like throughout

47:25 ↗ construction. Like I'm sure you've all

47:27 ↗ seen somebody dig up areas. We have to

47:29 ↗ put the dirt somewhere while we build

47:31 ↗ whatever it is and we back to it. Right.

47:33 ↗ We're not proposing to stockpile dirt on

47:36 ↗ the elementary school site long term. So

47:39 ↗ like we took that as do not stockpile

47:41 ↗ dirt on that site if you're not going to

47:42 ↗ build it tomorrow because it would make

47:44 ↗ no sense for us to put it in a truck,

47:46 ↗ take it to the elementary school, dump

47:48 ↗ it, and then 6 months from now pay a

47:50 ↗ contractor to put it back in a truck and

47:52 ↗ take it somewhere else. So our intent is

47:55 ↗ the dirt that is above and beyond what

47:57 ↗ we need gets exported from the site at

48:00 ↗ that time. Um, and if you guys wanted to

48:02 ↗ add some type of condition that said we

48:04 ↗ can't stockpile in the phase 1B area, I

48:06 ↗ don't think we would have any concerns

48:08 ↗ with that.

48:10 ↗ >> Thank you. Um, can I follow up on that?

48:13 ↗ Um, if I understand this correctly,

48:17 ↗ condition 11 would still apply

48:20 ↗ and it says if the elementary school has

48:22 ↗ not been built, the stockpile shall be

48:24 ↗ removed, but we can ignore that because

48:26 ↗ there won't be one. and the site

48:28 ↗ restored and stabilized within 3 months

48:31 ↗ based on a removal plan approved by the

48:33 ↗ city. So, it would seem to me that that

48:36 ↗ still applies

48:38 ↗ that you would have to restore the site

48:40 ↗ within 3 months. It wouldn't just sit

48:42 ↗ waiting for another proposal.

48:44 ↗ >> Yeah. So, we I guess the the way we've

48:47 ↗ interpreted that and I think it was the

48:49 ↗ way it was intended based on a lot of

48:51 ↗ conversations before we got to that

48:53 ↗ condition. Um the the idea would be

48:58 ↗ restore to like subgrade conditions. So

49:00 ↗ there'd still be a building pad there

49:02 ↗ and then we would plant that area. So

49:04 ↗ we've talked about hydro seeding um and

49:07 ↗ and those pieces to make sure we don't

49:09 ↗ have erosion and other problems with

49:10 ↗ that area, but not I guess the res the

49:14 ↗ restore it's not like restore it to

49:16 ↗ previous conditions. We're back talking

49:18 ↗ and we're back talking about the amount

49:20 ↗ of dirt we'd have to haul off there,

49:22 ↗ right? that that was never the intent

49:24 ↗ and that's not the way we understood it.

49:28 ↗ >> Katie, I I just have a clarification

49:31 ↗ question on the same topic. Um, you

49:33 ↗ mentioned there'll be no stockpiling on

49:35 ↗ the say the elementary school site and I

49:37 ↗ I would guess that is that apply the

49:39 ↗ fields the baseball fields too. My my my

49:42 ↗ question is but does that

49:45 ↗ >> and maybe I just don't know the lingo

49:48 ↗ but you're going to regrade the site,

49:50 ↗ right? So are what is what's the

49:52 ↗ difference between the changing the

49:54 ↗ grading and that building pad and a

49:56 ↗ stockpile?

49:57 ↗ >> Yeah, that's great clarification. So

50:00 ↗ when I say no stockpiling, I mean we're

50:02 ↗ going to build it to subgrade. So we're

50:04 ↗ going to bring the elevation up to what

50:08 ↗ the future elevations need to be to

50:09 ↗ build on that site. So the stockpiling

50:12 ↗ would be us actually like creating a

50:13 ↗ mound of dirt covering with plastic or

50:16 ↗ hydro seating or whatever and you end up

50:18 ↗ with you know little mountain of dirt on

50:20 ↗ that site. That is not proposed. Does

50:23 ↗ that clarify?

50:25 ↗ >> The regrading would still happen to get

50:27 ↗ to that subgrade elevation. Correct.

50:30 ↗ And as I mentioned before we need to do

50:31 ↗ that to avoid hauling a whole bunch of

50:34 ↗ material and causing more traffic than I

50:36 ↗ want to be a part of.

50:38 ↗ John,

50:40 ↗ >> going back to um Commissioner Brennan's

50:42 ↗ comment or worst case scenario of 1A 1B

50:46 ↗ not following up. Um is the intent if

50:49 ↗ you have TCO to actually get an occup

50:51 ↗ occupancy permit and occupy the high

50:53 ↗ school if if 1B doesn't follow on?

50:58 ↗ >> Yeah. I mean, the reality is for the

51:01 ↗ school district, you're going to put the

51:02 ↗ amount of effort it's going to take to

51:04 ↗ get there. You're going to move into

51:06 ↗ that school and you're going to go back

51:07 ↗ through the process if if we can't get,

51:09 ↗ you know, the next building permit

51:11 ↗ because it's it's a little more

51:13 ↗ complicated than that. So, we need to

51:14 ↗ submit for the building permit and then

51:16 ↗ building permits are only good for a

51:18 ↗ certain amount of time, right? So,

51:20 ↗ there's got to be some fairly good idea

51:22 ↗ that we're going to move into that next

51:23 ↗ phase.

51:25 ↗ And then kind of pivoting a little bit

51:27 ↗ back to my question on on the

51:29 ↗ programming was I guess it sounds like

51:31 ↗ the programming changed significantly

51:33 ↗ enough to cause this phasing to occur

51:36 ↗ and could you describe it a bit?

51:38 ↗ >> Yeah, so there was a that wing, there

51:41 ↗ was gym, there was locker rooms, um

51:44 ↗ there was some classroom above it, but

51:45 ↗ but it was really those athletic uses

51:47 ↗ that were there. If you're going to

51:49 ↗ build part of a high school, probably

51:51 ↗ doesn't make sense to build the gym and

51:53 ↗ a locker room. Um so so those were moved

51:56 ↗ to the they're going to be moved to the

51:58 ↗ other wing. Um so basically we flipped

52:00 ↗ the building when we did that. You know

52:03 ↗ still needing to have the kitchen all

52:05 ↗ those pieces there necessitated moving

52:08 ↗ the loading dock closer to the kitchen

52:10 ↗ because that's really you know most your

52:12 ↗ deliveries and things that's where

52:13 ↗ they're going. Um so having that tied

52:15 ↗ together made a lot more sense.

52:17 ↗ >> So it wasn't an a projected enrollment

52:19 ↗ issue then. Thanks.

52:24 ↗ >> Any other commissioner questions?

52:28 ↗ >> All right. Thank you.

52:29 ↗ >> Thank you.

52:33 ↗ >> Now we'll move into the public comment

52:34 ↗ portion of the hearing. Miss Jackson,

52:37 ↗ has anyone signed up to comment on this

52:38 ↗ topic?

52:40 ↗ >> Yes, chair. They have.

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53:54 ↗ amendments before the commission only.

53:56 ↗ Miss Jackson, please call our first

53:58 ↗ speaker,

53:59 ↗ >> Tim Brown.

54:13 ↗ One general comment.

54:14 ↗ >> I'm sorry. I want to get one general

54:15 ↗ comment first. We keep talking about

54:17 ↗ phase 1 A and 1B. They're only talking

54:21 ↗ about 1A here tonight. The chance of 1B

54:24 ↗ happening to me is improbable.

54:29 ↗ What encompassed 1 A and 1B was what the

54:32 ↗ two bond issues that failed. The last

54:35 ↗ one didn't even get 50% of the vote.

54:38 ↗ There's strong resistance in the iso

54:40 ↗ community to spend all the money on this

54:43 ↗ school.

54:44 ↗ I again I remind you to see see yourself

54:47 ↗ doing 1A 1B when they talk about being

54:50 ↗ temporary. Temporary could be forever.

54:54 ↗ Uh I have a different understanding in

54:57 ↗ some respects. I guess my time is up. Uh

55:00 ↗ I thought that uh I just would point out

55:04 ↗ that uh

55:05 ↗ >> your your time is not up.

55:07 ↗ I beg your pardon.

55:08 ↗ >> Your time's not up. They'll they'll fix

55:09 ↗ the clock.

55:10 ↗ >> They'll fix it.

55:11 ↗ >> What?

55:12 ↗ >> Your time is not up. They will fix the

55:13 ↗ clock.

55:14 ↗ >> Oh, okay. Okay. I wonder how I lost a

55:16 ↗ minute and a half. Yeah. Uh I think the

55:19 ↗ ISD talks about installing temporary

55:22 ↗ above ground detention ponds

55:24 ↗ uh and later constructing full storm

55:27 ↗ water compliance as they say that comply

55:30 ↗ with professional standards. These do

55:33 ↗ not fully comply with professional

55:35 ↗ standards. Uh the one the original plan

55:39 ↗ was have major underground vaulting

55:41 ↗ underneath the stadium with two small

55:44 ↗ ponds. We've now flipped it and we've

55:47 ↗ got something where we're going to have

55:49 ↗ major uh above ground water. Then I'll

55:53 ↗ point out that they did this ISD have a

55:57 ↗ geothermal injury report in 61721

56:01 ↗ prepared by associate earth sciences. I

56:04 ↗ quote due to the lack of on-site

56:06 ↗ receptor style on-site storm water

56:10 ↗ filtration is not recommended not is put

56:13 ↗ in caps by them.

56:16 ↗ uh the reissued SEPA sea of the MDNS

56:21 ↗ September 9th 2021 I quote again note

56:24 ↗ that on-site soil are not suitable for

56:27 ↗ infiltration

56:30 ↗ uh

56:32 ↗ the other question when you actually

56:33 ↗ look at that property it's on the top of

56:36 ↗ a hill drainage both sides this is not

56:39 ↗ the city of Seamish but the bulk of the

56:43 ↗ at least 40% of the rainwater is going

56:45 ↗ to go into Seamish is a very steep hill

56:48 ↗ right off of 228th is basically a road

56:51 ↗ cut of the top of a ridge. The water

56:54 ↗ goes directly into Laughing Jacobs Creek

56:57 ↗ and in Seamish. Seamish has not been

57:00 ↗ contacted by SSD. They talked about how

57:02 ↗ important it is because they're talking

57:04 ↗ about major major changes in the

57:06 ↗ roadway, but they're not propo including

57:08 ↗ that in this proposal.

57:10 ↗ Uh there's a I have people I know have

57:14 ↗ spoke to members of the city council of

57:16 ↗ of Seamish and they are a gasast at this

57:19 ↗ thought. Uh

57:22 ↗ uh

57:24 ↗ the city also again the city of Isiqua's

57:26 ↗ code they say it complies with

57:28 ↗ >> your time is up now. Do you have one

57:30 ↗ last thought?

57:30 ↗ >> I have one last said all storm water

57:32 ↗ retention treatment must be provided

57:34 ↗ above in below ground vaults. That's

57:37 ↗ isqua co. Thank you.

57:43 ↗ >> Um, our countdown clock isn't working,

57:45 ↗ so we will just give you a two minutes

57:47 ↗ left, one minute left warning.

57:53 ↗ >> Dave Osmer.

58:05 ↗ Good evening, members of the commission.

58:07 ↗ My name is Dave Osmer. I reside in

58:09 ↗ Providence Point.

58:11 ↗ Uh I clearly understand that safety is a

58:14 ↗ significant concern of the school

58:16 ↗ district. However, this high school, if

58:19 ↗ built as planned, would be would have

58:22 ↗ only one uh single open exit. That would

58:28 ↗ be the only one in the district that has

58:30 ↗ it that way in case of an emergency, a

58:33 ↗ potential safety nightmare. The staff

58:37 ↗ report for this project in section 4

58:39 ↗ approved land use permit. The fourth

58:42 ↗ paragraph states that this amendment

58:44 ↗ includes quote minor improvements to

58:47 ↗ provide emergencyonly access at

58:50 ↗ Providence Heights Loop. There is just

58:53 ↗ one problem with this statement that has

58:56 ↗ not been addressed anywhere in this

58:58 ↗ amendment or in the original

59:00 ↗ application.

59:01 ↗ I call your attention to cont condition

59:05 ↗ number 79 in the document sea land use

59:09 ↗ conditions matrix which states the

59:12 ↗ design includes an emergency access off

59:16 ↗ of 228 over an existing private road

59:19 ↗ that is separate from the main access

59:22 ↗ but provides full access through the

59:25 ↗ site via internal driveways and fire

59:27 ↗ lane. The entrance from the private road

59:30 ↗ into the site will be secured with a

59:32 ↗ gate with emergency responders having

59:35 ↗ keyed access through the emergency

59:38 ↗ access gate.

59:42 ↗ If acceptable, and I continue to quote,

59:45 ↗ if acceptable to others having rights to

59:48 ↗ use the private road, the entrance to

59:50 ↗ that private road off 2028 or 228th will

59:55 ↗ be secured with by a gate with locked

59:58 ↗ key access available to emergency

1:00:01 ↗ responders and others having rights to

1:00:03 ↗ use the private road.

1:00:05 ↗ The issue is that the plan all of the

1:00:08 ↗ plan sites we've reviewed for this

1:00:10 ↗ project show that Providence Point

1:00:12 ↗ property line runs down the middle of

1:00:15 ↗ this private road.

1:00:18 ↗ Years ago, there was an easement on this

1:00:20 ↗ road allowing for both neighbor prop

1:00:23 ↗ both neighboring property owners to use

1:00:25 ↗ it. However, ISD claims that such an

1:00:28 ↗ easement has been vacated and our

1:00:31 ↗ searches of county property records

1:00:33 ↗ reveal no evidence that it still exists,

1:00:36 ↗ thus precluding its use by ISD without

1:00:40 ↗ permission from Providence Point. To

1:00:43 ↗ date, no one from ISD or the city of

1:00:45 ↗ Isiqua has contacted Providence Point

1:00:48 ↗ leadership to resolve this matter, nor

1:00:51 ↗ has leadership given ISD permission to

1:00:54 ↗ use what we believe is Provenence

1:00:57 ↗ Point's half of the road. Additionally,

1:01:00 ↗ ISD has not provided any survey

1:01:03 ↗ proving otherwise. Therefore, it is not

1:01:07 ↗ appropriate for this commission to act

1:01:09 ↗ on this uh amendment

1:01:10 ↗ >> three minutes

1:01:11 ↗ >> without until that uh this issue has

1:01:15 ↗ been satisfactorily resolved. Thank you.

1:01:18 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:01:25 ↗ >> J Sternoff.

1:01:50 ↗ My name is Jace Turnoff and I also

1:01:54 ↗ reside in Providence Point

1:01:56 ↗ adjacent to the Providence Heights

1:01:58 ↗ property. As you all are aware, uh at

1:02:02 ↗ the end of uh the uh first approval in

1:02:06 ↗ 2022, there were approximately 58

1:02:09 ↗ conditions on the property. Since then,

1:02:13 ↗ as of June of this year, it's now 82,

1:02:16 ↗ which a lot of you have been referencing

1:02:18 ↗ tonight. Uh and it keeps getting added

1:02:22 ↗ every time uh we review it.

1:02:27 ↗ the the February 16 22 uh staff report

1:02:31 ↗ for the project uh land use examines the

1:02:35 ↗ in

1:02:37 ↗ isqua municipal code title 16 and 18.

1:02:40 ↗ They were vested at the time of the land

1:02:42 ↗ use application to which the major

1:02:45 ↗ amendment must legally adhere. The land

1:02:47 ↗ use elements regulated under the code

1:02:49 ↗ included project clearing, grading,

1:02:52 ↗ storm water management and roadway

1:02:54 ↗ improvements. According to the ITPA uh

1:02:57 ↗ municipal code 1626 and 1810, the

1:03:01 ↗ applicant must obtain initial site work

1:03:04 ↗ permits for both on-site and off-site

1:03:06 ↗ improvements within the jurisdictions of

1:03:09 ↗ the city of Isiqua and the cities of

1:03:12 ↗ Seamish. Both jurisdictions require

1:03:15 ↗ detention facilities and flow control

1:03:18 ↗ structures to detain and release storm

1:03:20 ↗ waters at rates equal to or less than

1:03:23 ↗ 50% of the 2-year peak flow.

1:03:27 ↗ At last check, the city of Seamish

1:03:31 ↗ checking with the city council as well

1:03:32 ↗ as her plan planning department, there

1:03:34 ↗ has been no communication by the city of

1:03:37 ↗ Isiqua or the Isiqua school district

1:03:40 ↗ with the city of Seamish in reference to

1:03:42 ↗ this.

1:03:47 ↗ The storm water the first requirement is

1:03:49 ↗ to install underground uh groundwater

1:03:52 ↗ storage. Uh they are adding uh more open

1:03:56 ↗ open uh

1:03:57 ↗ >> two minutes.

1:03:58 ↗ >> Thank you. Two remaining or you're at 2

1:04:02 ↗ minutes.

1:04:02 ↗ >> Okay.

1:04:02 ↗ >> You're at 2 minutes. 2 minutes and 13

1:04:04 ↗ seconds.

1:04:05 ↗ >> Okay. So what I'd guess I'd like to move

1:04:08 ↗ on to my conclusion.

1:04:13 ↗ As I discussed previously about

1:04:15 ↗ stormliner management and road

1:04:16 ↗ improvements are both necessary and

1:04:18 ↗ integral parts of the clearing and

1:04:20 ↗ grading and must be completed

1:04:21 ↗ simultaneously with the work. Clearing

1:04:24 ↗ and grading without installing

1:04:25 ↗ infrastructure is not allowed. The major

1:04:28 ↗ amendment intends a separate clearing

1:04:29 ↗ and grading from the required

1:04:31 ↗ infrastructure completion. However,

1:04:33 ↗ Isqua's code and land use conditions for

1:04:36 ↗ the uh project do not uh permit this.

1:04:41 ↗ The second uh dis

1:04:44 ↗ part I would like to talk about is the

1:04:47 ↗ uh

1:04:48 ↗ vesting and uh the vesting uh goes back

1:04:52 ↗ to the 22 uh approval as well as the

1:04:56 ↗ vesting uh how this committee deals with

1:05:00 ↗ >> three minutes sir.

1:05:02 ↗ >> Pardon

1:05:02 ↗ >> you have there you are at three minutes

1:05:04 ↗ and 14 seconds.

1:05:05 ↗ >> Okay. In conclusion, what I'd like to

1:05:07 ↗ say be because of the vesting also deals

1:05:10 ↗ with uh

1:05:12 ↗ the uh

1:05:15 ↗ I'm trying to condense this because the

1:05:18 ↗ vesting deals specifically with uh how

1:05:22 ↗ the city of Isiqua deals with the

1:05:24 ↗ appeals. As you recall, in 2022, it was

1:05:28 ↗ considered a level five. And on July 1st

1:05:31 ↗ of this year, it was changed to a level

1:05:33 ↗ four, which is only the development

1:05:35 ↗ commission and doesn't go to this city

1:05:38 ↗ council. Coincidentally, when it changed

1:05:41 ↗ on July 1st, that was the day that the

1:05:43 ↗ amendment was uh to the master site plan

1:05:46 ↗ was proposed. And what I'm trying to ask

1:05:48 ↗ you to uh consider also is that not only

1:05:52 ↗ you recommend this, but you review this

1:05:54 ↗ with the city council since that's was

1:05:57 ↗ vested back in 2022. Thank you.

1:06:01 ↗ >> Thank you,

1:06:07 ↗ >> Rick Arbor

1:06:11 ↗ virtual.

1:06:16 ↗ >> Uh yes, I'm here. Can you hear me?

1:06:18 ↗ >> Yes, we can hear you. You can begin.

1:06:21 ↗ >> Okay. I guess I'm not on the the video

1:06:24 ↗ part of this, but uh um so um I'm

1:06:28 ↗ Richard Amber. I represent the

1:06:29 ↗ Providence Point um umbrella board uh

1:06:32 ↗ with regard to this matter. We've um

1:06:35 ↗ provided uh the development commission

1:06:37 ↗ with a letter dated August 21 uh which

1:06:40 ↗ is very detailed and addresses the

1:06:44 ↗ issues that are involved here. I won't

1:06:46 ↗ go through that letter again in detail

1:06:49 ↗ because I know development commission

1:06:51 ↗ members have have read it. But I will um

1:06:54 ↗ highlight several issues that have um

1:06:57 ↗ been developed tonight. Number one, this

1:07:00 ↗ the storm drainage plan is different

1:07:03 ↗ than what was originally proposed. It it

1:07:06 ↗ calls for open um open areas for storm

1:07:11 ↗ detention. many of those storm detention

1:07:14 ↗ areas uh will flow into Providence Point

1:07:18 ↗ and th this is entirely new storm

1:07:21 ↗ drainage system that hasn't been u

1:07:24 ↗ analyzed and and discussed before. Um

1:07:27 ↗ there needs to be a complete plan for

1:07:31 ↗ drainage because all the water in these

1:07:34 ↗ ponds will tend to flow out because it

1:07:36 ↗ will not infiltrate uh into the ground.

1:07:39 ↗ So that is a major defect with this um

1:07:43 ↗ project. Um secondly, the um the 1A um

1:07:50 ↗ 1B distinction um does not recognize two

1:07:54 ↗ fundamental facts. Number one, there is

1:07:56 ↗ no funding for phase 1B at all. As as

1:08:01 ↗ identified, the the funding for that

1:08:03 ↗ project was rejected by the voters.

1:08:06 ↗ Secondly, and as indicated in my letter,

1:08:09 ↗ there is no basis in the city of the

1:08:12 ↗ Isiqua capital facilities plan for phase

1:08:16 ↗ 1B because there is not the enrollment

1:08:19 ↗ projections to support. Uh the

1:08:22 ↗ development commission needs to look at

1:08:24 ↗ this project as one that will only

1:08:26 ↗ include phase 1B.

1:08:28 ↗ >> You have one minute.

1:08:31 ↗ Phase 1B will not be happening and

1:08:34 ↗ cannot be indicated as a um as a future

1:08:39 ↗ project. Um and I've indicated the

1:08:42 ↗ importance that the city has over in its

1:08:45 ↗ planning for the retention of forests

1:08:48 ↗ areas trees in the community. It is a

1:08:51 ↗ very important issue to the city and yet

1:08:54 ↗ the Isakqua school district uh setting

1:08:57 ↗ in my opinion a bad example for its

1:09:00 ↗ students uh intends to mow down trees as

1:09:03 ↗ a place to um place soil. That's that's

1:09:07 ↗ not an appropriate thing to do. There's

1:09:10 ↗ other ways to deal with the soils that

1:09:12 ↗ are there. um if indeed there is going

1:09:15 ↗ to be a phase 1B uh which which seems to

1:09:19 ↗ me to be entirely unwritten. So um I

1:09:22 ↗ have my letter in front of you um and um

1:09:26 ↗ if you have questions for me I'm happy

1:09:28 ↗ to answer them. I think I'm right about

1:09:30 ↗ >> Yes sir you are. Thank you.

1:09:38 ↗ Marne

1:09:40 ↗ Maldono.

1:10:01 ↗ Telephone number 4252203389.

1:10:08 ↗ First name Marne.

1:10:23 ↗ I do have you unmuted.

1:10:27 ↗ Thank you. Good evening, development

1:10:28 ↗ commissioners. Thank you for the

1:10:30 ↗ opportunity to speak this evening. I'm

1:10:32 ↗ Marne Moralda. I serve as an elected

1:10:34 ↗ school director for the past 16 years

1:10:36 ↗ and I'm currently the Isiqua school

1:10:38 ↗ board president. I'm here to express our

1:10:40 ↗ support for the proposed amendment in to

1:10:42 ↗ the previously approved land use permit

1:10:44 ↗ for the new high school. I truly

1:10:46 ↗ appreciate the time and diligence that

1:10:47 ↗ this commission takes to protect our

1:10:49 ↗ community while at the same time

1:10:51 ↗ planning for growth. In 2015, 10 years

1:10:54 ↗ ago, the Isiqua School District held a

1:10:56 ↗ bond committee made up of staff,

1:10:58 ↗ community members, parents, and

1:10:59 ↗ students. Based on the enroll enrollment

1:11:01 ↗ at the time and growth determined by the

1:11:03 ↗ continued development within the Isiqua

1:11:05 ↗ school district boundaries, it was

1:11:07 ↗ determined that a fourth comprehensive

1:11:08 ↗ high school would be needed. Our board

1:11:11 ↗ is focusing focusing on providing a

1:11:13 ↗ world-class education for our students

1:11:15 ↗ to prepare them to thrive throughout

1:11:16 ↗ their life. We feel that each student

1:11:18 ↗ should be known by name, strength, and

1:11:20 ↗ need, and our overcrowded schools create

1:11:22 ↗ barriers for our students to achieve

1:11:24 ↗ their full potential. Nearly a decade of

1:11:27 ↗ illegal battles delayed this project to

1:11:29 ↗ the point that the entire phase 1

1:11:31 ↗ project could not be completed. But the

1:11:33 ↗ number of high school students to today

1:11:35 ↗ is significantly more than in 2015 when

1:11:38 ↗ we first determined the need. Even

1:11:40 ↗ future predicted declines do not expect

1:11:42 ↗ the loss of high school students to

1:11:44 ↗ levels lower than at that time. And as

1:11:47 ↗ the development commission knows, land

1:11:49 ↗ has been reszoned for residential units

1:11:51 ↗ throughout the city, meaning that with

1:11:52 ↗ more affordable options, more families

1:11:55 ↗ will be moving into the Isakqua School

1:11:57 ↗ District. Further delays on this project

1:11:59 ↗ does not remove the need. It only

1:12:01 ↗ increases the cost. In exhibit one, our

1:12:04 ↗ letter affirms that our position remains

1:12:06 ↗ consistent and clear. This project was

1:12:08 ↗ funded by voters, has undergone multiple

1:12:10 ↗ legal reviews, and has been vetted

1:12:12 ↗ several times by committees and

1:12:13 ↗ councils. In exhibit two, our new high

1:12:16 ↗ school project timeline shows more than

1:12:18 ↗ a decade of work. As event uh as as

1:12:22 ↗ evident in the timeline, our district

1:12:23 ↗ has repeatedly met with all parties

1:12:25 ↗ without hesitation in good faith to

1:12:28 ↗ discuss issues and accommodate concerns.

1:12:30 ↗ In exhibit three, a proposed 2020

1:12:33 ↗ agreement was negotiated leadership

1:12:36 ↗ >> of our former superintendent with select

1:12:38 ↗ members of the Providence point and I

1:12:40 ↗ was part of those discussions.

1:12:42 ↗ Unfortunately, the PPUA leadership never

1:12:45 ↗ signed the agreement, but it

1:12:46 ↗ demonstrated how far the district was

1:12:48 ↗ willing to address their concerns,

1:12:49 ↗ including buffers, enhancing landscape,

1:12:52 ↗ athletic fields, lighting, noise,

1:12:54 ↗ traffic, construction, hour limitations,

1:12:56 ↗ and more. In exhibit 4, our team

1:12:59 ↗ continued working with city officials

1:13:01 ↗ and select Proven Point community

1:13:02 ↗ members to develop a comprehensive list

1:13:04 ↗ of accommodations at an estimate of cost

1:13:07 ↗ of nearly $16 million.

1:13:10 ↗ While not necessarily required by code,

1:13:12 ↗ we provided these voluntary investments

1:13:14 ↗ in an effort to be a good neighbor. For

1:13:17 ↗ more than a decade, this project has

1:13:18 ↗ been shaped by adult disagreements. Some

1:13:21 ↗ opponents have indicated they will try

1:13:22 ↗ to link this project to dissuade the

1:13:24 ↗ community to vote for upcoming levies,

1:13:27 ↗ even though the levies are unrelated to

1:13:29 ↗ funding construction of the new high

1:13:31 ↗ school. Meanwhile, students continue to

1:13:33 ↗ attend overcrowded high schools and

1:13:36 ↗ future students will inherent the

1:13:37 ↗ consequences if we continue to delay.

1:13:40 ↗ >> You are at the 3inut payers more. I urge

1:13:44 ↗ the commission to approve the amendment

1:13:46 ↗ as presented.

1:13:49 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:13:54 ↗ >> Carol Smith.

1:14:00 ↗ >> Good evening. I'm Carol Schmidt, high

1:14:02 ↗ school history teacher, Belleview High,

1:14:04 ↗ and Providence Point resident.

1:14:07 ↗ Thank you for giving me this

1:14:08 ↗ opportunity. Many in the Providence

1:14:10 ↗ Point community have written and spoken

1:14:12 ↗ to this commission, the city council,

1:14:15 ↗ the Isqua School District about the

1:14:17 ↗ impact the school would have on our

1:14:19 ↗ community, the environment, and traffic.

1:14:22 ↗ It hasn't seemed to matter. We have had

1:14:24 ↗ little recourse other than our vote.

1:14:27 ↗ I'm convinced we made a difference in

1:14:29 ↗ the results of the recent bond and levy

1:14:31 ↗ defeats. It hurts me to say that because

1:14:34 ↗ I am a teacher. I understand

1:14:37 ↗ overcrowding. One of my classes has 37

1:14:39 ↗ kids in a room that comfortably seats

1:14:41 ↗ 32. And as have I said before, Belleview

1:14:45 ↗ High was built on the top of a hill with

1:14:47 ↗ two major entrances, two minor

1:14:50 ↗ entrances, and yet an hour after school

1:14:52 ↗ gets out, I still can't get out of the

1:14:54 ↗ parking lot because the parents are

1:14:56 ↗ backed up all the way to Belleview Way.

1:14:58 ↗ It won't be any different here.

1:15:02 ↗ The current plan for high school number

1:15:03 ↗ four is only one major entrance.

1:15:07 ↗ I am primarily here today because in the

1:15:09 ↗ five years of my residency in Isiqua and

1:15:12 ↗ taking part in this discussion on the

1:15:13 ↗ school, I haven't seen a good survey

1:15:16 ↗ study as to where these kids are.

1:15:19 ↗ Shouldn't this guide the construction of

1:15:21 ↗ the new school? Are they in Newcastle?

1:15:23 ↗ Because they're busy trying to get into

1:15:24 ↗ Newport High. Are they in May Valley,

1:15:28 ↗ the Highlands, or off of Fall City Road?

1:15:30 ↗ They're not in my neighborhood. Any

1:15:33 ↗ students from these areas would just add

1:15:34 ↗ to the traffic issues that they have to

1:15:36 ↗ travel to the Providence Point location.

1:15:39 ↗ There are very few students in our

1:15:41 ↗ immediate area. And I want to refute

1:15:43 ↗ what one recent candidate for office

1:15:45 ↗ said to our community. She told us that

1:15:47 ↗ a neighborhood schools are great for

1:15:49 ↗ property values. We are a 55 and over

1:15:52 ↗ community. Our property values will not

1:15:55 ↗ go up because the school is in our

1:15:57 ↗ neighborhood. We don't sell our homes to

1:15:59 ↗ young families. Who will I sell my unit

1:16:02 ↗ to when it looks at a black top or a big

1:16:04 ↗ mountain of dirt uh instead of the sound

1:16:07 ↗ of frogs and trees? Now, you can

1:16:09 ↗ continue to ignore our entire community

1:16:12 ↗ of voters and still approve this

1:16:13 ↗ revision. I can't remain

1:16:16 ↗ >> the school district can begin building

1:16:17 ↗ this school and then at some point in

1:16:19 ↗ the future, it's going to need money for

1:16:21 ↗ this 1B. How do you expect us to vote?

1:16:24 ↗ Please set up a commission to study

1:16:26 ↗ where the kids are. What was once a

1:16:29 ↗ cheap acquisition of land has to be

1:16:31 ↗ costing everyone a lot more time and tax

1:16:33 ↗ dollars. Thank you.

1:16:36 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:16:40 ↗ >> Erica Stevens.

1:16:51 ↗ Hi, my name is Erica Stevens. Uh, I

1:16:54 ↗ guess I don't have to tell you why we're

1:16:56 ↗ here. In 2016, 71.4%

1:17:00 ↗ of voters approved a bond measure to,

1:17:03 ↗ among other things, build a fourth

1:17:05 ↗ comprehensive high school. Following the

1:17:08 ↗ identification, acquisition and

1:17:10 ↗ acquisition of suitable site, the

1:17:12 ↗ district spent years in a legal battle

1:17:14 ↗ over this site. During that time, costs

1:17:18 ↗ increase, as costs tend to do, and with

1:17:21 ↗ years of delays, the original estimates

1:17:24 ↗ and original funds earmarked for this

1:17:26 ↗ project are not sufficient. Had the

1:17:29 ↗ building opened in 2023 as planned, we

1:17:33 ↗ wouldn't be here tonight because it'd be

1:17:36 ↗ open. Yet, here we are. For context, I

1:17:40 ↗ have served on Isiqua School District's

1:17:42 ↗ bond advisory committee in 2011,

1:17:45 ↗ again in 2015 for the 2016 bond and levy

1:17:50 ↗ advisory committees in 2021 and 2025. I

1:17:53 ↗ am currently serving on the capital

1:17:55 ↗ projects oversight committee. I have two

1:17:58 ↗ children, one graduated from Isiqua High

1:18:00 ↗ School in 2024, a year after the new

1:18:03 ↗ high school should have opened, and one

1:18:05 ↗ is a sophomore at Isakiqua. Who knows if

1:18:08 ↗ she would have been at IHS or the new

1:18:10 ↗ school as our family is nearly

1:18:12 ↗ equidistant from Isiziqua High School

1:18:14 ↗ skyline and the new site.

1:18:18 ↗ Isiziqua was built wasn't built for 2500

1:18:21 ↗ students. In fact, in 2016 when the bond

1:18:23 ↗ passed, IHS had only 2,200 students. It

1:18:27 ↗ has increased by 14% in that time. Some

1:18:31 ↗ might question why build a new high

1:18:33 ↗ school if you can't build a full

1:18:34 ↗ comprehensive high school. Tell that to

1:18:37 ↗ my daughter who's been on crutches for

1:18:39 ↗ the last 6 weeks and has to go out to

1:18:41 ↗ the portables in the rain. If you're not

1:18:43 ↗ familiar with Isiqua High School, the

1:18:45 ↗ portables are on the other side of the

1:18:47 ↗ sports fields.

1:18:49 ↗ These classrooms are on the edge of

1:18:51 ↗ campus just past the trail head to Poo

1:18:54 ↗ Poo Point.

1:18:55 ↗ >> You have one minute.

1:18:56 ↗ >> Approximately 650 ft, the length of two

1:18:59 ↗ football fields from the main building.

1:19:02 ↗ Tell that to kids who eat lunch in their

1:19:04 ↗ cars rather than sitting on the floor in

1:19:07 ↗ the lunchroom because there's not enough

1:19:08 ↗ room in the commons. That was my son.

1:19:11 ↗ Tell that to kids who are trying to

1:19:13 ↗ navigate crowded halls and get to class

1:19:15 ↗ on time. My daughter has to be excused

1:19:17 ↗ early from Spanish just so that she can

1:19:19 ↗ get from the portables back to the main

1:19:23 ↗ building to her next class on time. In

1:19:25 ↗ the same way that the city of Isiziqua

1:19:27 ↗ wants to be a good steward of taxpayer

1:19:29 ↗ money, ISD has the same obligation. and

1:19:31 ↗ it's one the district takes seriously.

1:19:33 ↗ This is part of the reason for

1:19:35 ↗ establishing the capital projects

1:19:36 ↗ oversight committee. It provides another

1:19:39 ↗ set of eyes on these projects and the

1:19:40 ↗ spending. We, the school district, the

1:19:43 ↗ city of Isiqua, and the broader

1:19:45 ↗ community have been talking about this

1:19:47 ↗ project with this piece of land for at

1:19:49 ↗ least eight years. There's not another

1:19:51 ↗ parcel of suitable land within the urban

1:19:54 ↗ growth area. Please keep in mind that

1:19:56 ↗ your actions, your decisions affect more

1:20:00 ↗ than just the city of Isiqua. They

1:20:02 ↗ affect everyone who lives in the Isiqua

1:20:04 ↗ school district.

1:20:05 ↗ >> Three minutes.

1:20:06 ↗ >> After eight years of discussion,

1:20:09 ↗ applications, studies, etc. I urge you

1:20:11 ↗ to approve the amendment to the existing

1:20:13 ↗ permit. Thank you.

1:20:15 ↗ >> Thank you,

1:20:19 ↗ >> Rory Crest.

1:20:27 ↗ Good evening. My name is Roy Crest. I

1:20:30 ↗ live at 18712 Southeast 44th Street,

1:20:34 ↗ Isiqua.

1:20:36 ↗ My relationship to the city is as a

1:20:39 ↗ property owner and resident. Uh I was

1:20:42 ↗ raised in the Isiqua community and

1:20:44 ↗ attended Isiqua Schools and graduated

1:20:47 ↗ from Isqua High School in 1974.

1:20:51 ↗ My my wife and I bought our first home

1:20:53 ↗ in Isiqua in 1984. We raised our family

1:20:57 ↗ in Isiqua and our two children attended

1:21:00 ↗ Isqua schools from kindergarten to

1:21:03 ↗ graduating from Isqua High School. I now

1:21:06 ↗ have a granddaughter who attends Sunset

1:21:08 ↗ Elementary.

1:21:10 ↗ I want to express my gratitude to the

1:21:12 ↗ many residents of Isiqua who over the

1:21:15 ↗ years have supported the Isqua school

1:21:17 ↗ district. The greater Isiqua community

1:21:20 ↗ and Isqua School District have been the

1:21:23 ↗ reason why this is such a desirable

1:21:25 ↗ place to live. People have always

1:21:28 ↗ recognized that good schools are a key

1:21:30 ↗ element to a good community.

1:21:34 ↗ Everyone who lives here now benefits

1:21:36 ↗ from the commitment of past residents,

1:21:39 ↗ homeowners, and business owners.

1:21:42 ↗ In recent years, there seems to be a

1:21:45 ↗ group of individuals who appear opposed

1:21:48 ↗ to anything related to school funding or

1:21:51 ↗ improvement.

1:21:53 ↗ And I find that frustrating, as I know

1:21:56 ↗ many others. Also,

1:21:59 ↗ the community approved the funding of a

1:22:01 ↗ new high school and elementary school

1:22:04 ↗ and has met roadblock after roadblock

1:22:08 ↗ from an anti-school group.

1:22:11 ↗ It's time to let the district move ahead

1:22:13 ↗ and build the new school,

1:22:16 ↗ even in its scaled down size because of

1:22:18 ↗ all the delays caused by this

1:22:20 ↗ anti-schools group.

1:22:23 ↗ Those of us who have lived here for many

1:22:25 ↗ years, even decades,

1:22:28 ↗ want our Isquas community and schools to

1:22:32 ↗ be as good for our current and future

1:22:34 ↗ residents and students as it has been

1:22:37 ↗ for us.

1:22:40 ↗ >> Thank you,

1:22:45 ↗ >> chair. That is all the people that have

1:22:47 ↗ signed up both virtually and online. But

1:22:50 ↗ there is someone online that has a

1:22:52 ↗ comment that has not signed up.

1:22:54 ↗ >> Okay.

1:22:57 ↗ >> Right. Null.

1:23:17 ↗ There we go. I think you can hear me

1:23:18 ↗ now.

1:23:19 ↗ >> Yes.

1:23:21 ↗ >> Thank you. My name is Wright Null. I uh

1:23:26 ↗ own a business that is for approximately

1:23:30 ↗ 20 years uh in Isqua, Carson Null Law

1:23:33 ↗ Firm. Uh I have five kids, all of which

1:23:37 ↗ have gone through the Isqua School

1:23:39 ↗ District. Um, and I think there's a

1:23:43 ↗ couple things that are least important

1:23:45 ↗ to me as as I think about this. One is

1:23:49 ↗ um what what this hearing is about is

1:23:51 ↗ whether it complies with the code. And

1:23:53 ↗ I've just been completely impressed with

1:23:55 ↗ what the school has done in looking at

1:23:59 ↗ trying to limit the the damage um

1:24:03 ↗ environmental impact uh looking at the

1:24:05 ↗ number of trips that would have to be

1:24:07 ↗ taken by trucks uh and minimizing the

1:24:12 ↗ flow of traffic that's going to go by

1:24:14 ↗ Providence Point in that process. So I I

1:24:17 ↗ really think the school district

1:24:18 ↗ deserves some credit for what it's done.

1:24:21 ↗ Also, as I read

1:24:24 ↗ those plans uh relating to water runoff,

1:24:27 ↗ it seems to me that the water runoff has

1:24:30 ↗ not changed. It's still going in the

1:24:32 ↗ same place. And the

1:24:35 ↗ um underground storage versus the above

1:24:39 ↗ ground, not above ground, but the ponds

1:24:41 ↗ has not changed the flow of water. Um

1:24:44 ↗ and so that seems to be uh kind of a red

1:24:47 ↗ herring in this. The other red herring I

1:24:49 ↗ think that's important to recognize is

1:24:51 ↗ that the vote that they're talking about

1:24:53 ↗ that voted against the school that is

1:24:55 ↗ that is not um

1:24:58 ↗ a good read of that vote. The people

1:25:01 ↗ that are now saying well the opposition

1:25:04 ↗ to the last bond actively campaigned for

1:25:07 ↗ a smaller high school and said that this

1:25:12 ↗ the other high school the high school

1:25:13 ↗ that was planned was too big that they

1:25:15 ↗ would be for a smaller high school. And

1:25:17 ↗ so a no vote very well could be and

1:25:20 ↗ seems to have been a vote for this

1:25:23 ↗ smaller high school. Uh and so it's a

1:25:26 ↗ bit frustrating that campaign against

1:25:29 ↗ the bond for a smaller high school than

1:25:31 ↗ they have a smaller high school and

1:25:33 ↗ they're saying the bond was something

1:25:34 ↗ different than the voting was something

1:25:36 ↗ different. So uh I appreciate what the

1:25:38 ↗ school district has done.

1:25:40 ↗ >> Thank you for the time and effort you

1:25:42 ↗ guys have put in. Uh, and I'd encourage

1:25:44 ↗ you to to approve the plan and let this

1:25:47 ↗ move forward. Thank you.

1:25:50 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:25:52 ↗ >> We are done with virtual comments. Is

1:25:56 ↗ there anyone else present who would like

1:25:58 ↗ to speak?

1:26:02 ↗ All right. Thank you.

1:26:07 ↗ Does the applicant have any rebuttal to

1:26:09 ↗ the comments?

1:26:22 ↗ Thank you for the opportunity. I assume

1:26:24 ↗ I'm still sworn in.

1:26:25 ↗ >> Yes.

1:26:26 ↗ >> Thank you. Um, so a lot of things from

1:26:29 ↗ the neighbors and I'm going to bring the

1:26:30 ↗ district up to talk about like the

1:26:32 ↗ funding and enrollments and those pieces

1:26:35 ↗ here in a second. Um, but I wanted to

1:26:37 ↗ cover a couple other pieces. So, uh, it

1:26:40 ↗ was mentioned that we're not

1:26:40 ↗ infiltrating groundwater or infiltrating

1:26:43 ↗ storm water. Um, and the geotech report

1:26:45 ↗ says it's not going to infiltrate. It's

1:26:47 ↗ never been our proposal. We're detaining

1:26:50 ↗ storm water and releasing it with at the

1:26:53 ↗ historic conditions. Okay. So, we're

1:26:55 ↗ taking it back to for or back to

1:26:57 ↗ forested conditions. That includes the

1:26:59 ↗ portion of the site that was already

1:27:02 ↗ developed. So, there used to be a church

1:27:03 ↗ on the site. There's a huge parking lot

1:27:05 ↗ up at the top of the hill. All that area

1:27:07 ↗ goes back to forested conditions for our

1:27:10 ↗ pond sizing.

1:27:12 ↗ Um the next thing I want to talk about

1:27:14 ↗ the um EVA access um and us needing to

1:27:18 ↗ work through that process. So so the the

1:27:20 ↗ easement was created in 1979.

1:27:23 ↗ Um the property has underwent a number

1:27:26 ↗ of changes. So actually the church at

1:27:28 ↗ one time owned part of the Providence

1:27:30 ↗ Point area like part of their

1:27:32 ↗ subdivision. So that road was internal

1:27:35 ↗ to them as they started selling pieces

1:27:37 ↗ that changed. They had three different

1:27:39 ↗ deeds throughout 1979 where they made

1:27:41 ↗ changes to that. Turns out at that time

1:27:43 ↗ we didn't have real great recordkeeping

1:27:46 ↗ and so they relinquished part of and

1:27:49 ↗ intended to bring them back and the

1:27:51 ↗ title is not super clear. So what we

1:27:54 ↗ believe is that the intent was to keep

1:27:56 ↗ the 30-foot easement for both parties.

1:27:59 ↗ So the school district has rights to

1:28:00 ↗ that road. Providence Point has rights

1:28:02 ↗ to that road. Um, we've submitted a

1:28:05 ↗ memo. It's in the record from the

1:28:07 ↗ original time this came up. Um, that

1:28:11 ↗ that outlines that, but um,

1:28:14 ↗ the city staff has agreed with us um, as

1:28:17 ↗ part of the original permit application

1:28:19 ↗ back in 2022. Um, the next part, the the

1:28:23 ↗ clear and grade plans. There was a

1:28:25 ↗ comment about the clear and grade plans

1:28:27 ↗ needing to have you couldn't just do

1:28:29 ↗ clearing grading without anything else.

1:28:31 ↗ So, um, so we we did submit a clearing

1:28:34 ↗ grade permit that included the storm

1:28:36 ↗ water improvements. So, we've broken our

1:28:38 ↗ project from if we get into the phasing

1:28:41 ↗ portion. So, not trying to make this

1:28:43 ↗ super complicated, but from a

1:28:45 ↗ construction standpoint, we have phasing

1:28:47 ↗ within that of we're going to have a

1:28:49 ↗ site development permit. So, we have two

1:28:50 ↗ site development permits. one that

1:28:52 ↗ allows us to do the clearing, the

1:28:54 ↗ grading, storm water improvements, get

1:28:57 ↗ up to subgrade, and then we have a

1:28:59 ↗ second permit which has all the surface

1:29:01 ↗ features of asphalt, sidewalks, all

1:29:04 ↗ those pieces. And we separated those

1:29:06 ↗ apart so that five years ago, four years

1:29:09 ↗ ago, we could get ahead of that process,

1:29:12 ↗ pull permits, and start moving dirt. If

1:29:14 ↗ we would have known how this was going

1:29:16 ↗ to go, we probably would have combined

1:29:17 ↗ those. But this point we have two

1:29:19 ↗ permits and that's that's what we're

1:29:21 ↗ moving forward with. Um our intent is to

1:29:24 ↗ build storm water improvements as we're

1:29:26 ↗ moving dirt. So we have two requirements

1:29:28 ↗ for storm water on this site. We

1:29:30 ↗ obviously have the the ultimate one you

1:29:31 ↗ guys have seen plans for of you know

1:29:33 ↗ we're building underground vaults. We're

1:29:35 ↗ doing um temporary ponds. We're doing

1:29:38 ↗ ponds on the elementary school site. The

1:29:42 ↗ um the second part of that is erosion

1:29:45 ↗ control. So as you move dirt, we have

1:29:48 ↗ the chance of sediment getting into

1:29:50 ↗ storm water, you know, running off site.

1:29:52 ↗ So we'll have temporary sediment ponds,

1:29:54 ↗ baker tanks, pumps, all those things to

1:29:57 ↗ collect the storm water, treat it prior

1:29:59 ↗ to discharge during construction, and

1:30:01 ↗ then as soon as areas are brought to

1:30:03 ↗ grade, we'll build the actual final

1:30:04 ↗ storm water facility. Um, so it's two

1:30:07 ↗ different requirements on that specific

1:30:10 ↗ issue that's part of the stormwater

1:30:11 ↗ code. I just wanted to mention that we

1:30:12 ↗ are meeting both of them.

1:30:15 ↗ The final piece was the storm water

1:30:17 ↗ discharge. So, while we have temporary

1:30:19 ↗ ponds, um they're in the location of the

1:30:23 ↗ final facilities. So, there isn't a big

1:30:26 ↗ bait and switch of we had one thing and

1:30:29 ↗ we're going to something else. In the

1:30:31 ↗ original approval, we had a big

1:30:33 ↗ detention system under the baseball

1:30:36 ↗ field. We have a pond under the baseball

1:30:39 ↗ field. We had multiple facilities under

1:30:42 ↗ the elementary school. We still have

1:30:43 ↗ those facilities. We had a large

1:30:45 ↗ facility under the football field. Still

1:30:48 ↗ have that facility. Um the other thing

1:30:50 ↗ that should be noted is we're building

1:30:51 ↗ the discharge from those ultimate

1:30:55 ↗ systems as part of phase 1A. So all the

1:30:58 ↗ pipes under the road and things, those

1:31:01 ↗ temporary ponds are still discharging to

1:31:03 ↗ the ultimate location.

1:31:06 ↗ So we're we're still matching the basins

1:31:08 ↗ of the water that goes to Laughing

1:31:09 ↗ Jacob's Creek. Still going to Laughing

1:31:11 ↗ Jacob's Creek. The water that goes out

1:31:13 ↗ to 43rd still goes out to 43rd. They're

1:31:17 ↗ in the existing condition. There's some

1:31:19 ↗ water that naturally went to Providence

1:31:20 ↗ Point. Based on discussions the first

1:31:23 ↗ time around their downstream and the

1:31:25 ↗ 43rd downstream come back together

1:31:27 ↗ within a quarter mile. They're

1:31:29 ↗ considered one basin and it was

1:31:32 ↗ determined that it was better to take

1:31:34 ↗ the water down 43rd and around

1:31:36 ↗ Providence Point instead of through

1:31:38 ↗ their site based on the number of

1:31:39 ↗ comments we got. So we are still

1:31:41 ↗ proposing to do that. So the air the

1:31:43 ↗ water from the elementary school that

1:31:44 ↗ was proposed to go down 43rd in the

1:31:46 ↗ original approval that's still

1:31:48 ↗ happening. So we have a very deep pipe

1:31:49 ↗ that runs all the way out to 43rd and

1:31:52 ↗ then down 43rd as part of our proposal.

1:32:02 ↗ I think you have to talk before they can

1:32:04 ↗ ask me questions. So

1:32:05 ↗ >> I'm going to turn it over to Martin with

1:32:07 ↗ the school district.

1:32:09 ↗ >> Okay.

1:32:13 ↗ I'm just not familiar. Do I need to?

1:32:14 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:32:15 ↗ >> Please state your name for the record.

1:32:16 ↗ >> Yep. My name is Martin Turney. I'm a

1:32:18 ↗ chief of finance and operations for the

1:32:19 ↗ school district.

1:32:20 ↗ >> Do you swear by oath or affirmation that

1:32:22 ↗ the testimony you're about to provide is

1:32:23 ↗ true?

1:32:24 ↗ >> I do.

1:32:24 ↗ >> Proceed.

1:32:25 ↗ >> Thank you. So, a couple things that came

1:32:27 ↗ up. I wanted to start with um funding

1:32:29 ↗ since that's um often a topic uh that's

1:32:33 ↗ of importance. I I want to point out

1:32:35 ↗ first too that this community voted

1:32:37 ↗ twice. once in 2016 and then in 2022 to

1:32:40 ↗ provide the needed funding for this high

1:32:42 ↗ school. Um, and due to the length of

1:32:46 ↗ time it's taken to get this done over

1:32:49 ↗ time, obviously escalating costs have

1:32:51 ↗ been tremendous. So, we have been trying

1:32:53 ↗ to keep, you know, keep up with those

1:32:54 ↗ escalating costs. It's really become an

1:32:56 ↗ obstacle for us obviously. Uh, and that

1:32:59 ↗ plays into the phasing, right? So, we

1:33:02 ↗ have students, we know where they are.

1:33:04 ↗ They are at Skyline and they're at Isqua

1:33:06 ↗ High School and those buildings are over

1:33:08 ↗ capacity by quite a bit. Uh our goal is

1:33:10 ↗ not to have just enough so that we can

1:33:12 ↗ bring kids in from portables. It's to

1:33:14 ↗ make sure that we have enough capacity

1:33:16 ↗ to do not just uh what we uh have

1:33:19 ↗ typically done but have innovative

1:33:20 ↗ spaces and be able to move into the

1:33:22 ↗ future with adequate uh programming. So,

1:33:25 ↗ um, you know, financially, we want to go

1:33:28 ↗ forward and get this phase done so we

1:33:29 ↗ can begin to have, um, momentum toward a

1:33:32 ↗ a larger high school out there. Um, and

1:33:36 ↗ we know that even if we're going to see

1:33:38 ↗ some softening in high school enrollment

1:33:40 ↗ in the near future, we know that growth

1:33:42 ↗ uh is on the horizon um, a little

1:33:45 ↗ further out. And in the meantime, as was

1:33:47 ↗ pointed out by uh director Moraldo, um

1:33:50 ↗ those numbers are not projected to go

1:33:52 ↗ down to a to a level um that would mean

1:33:54 ↗ that we would have adequate capacity for

1:33:56 ↗ how we want to serve our students. So,

1:33:59 ↗ thank you.

1:34:01 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:34:04 ↗ >> Does staff have any rebuttal to the

1:34:06 ↗ comments?

1:34:32 ↗ Um, not specific rebuttal to the

1:34:34 ↗ comments, but just in general reminder

1:34:36 ↗ about what we are focused on here

1:34:38 ↗ tonight. Um, a lot of comments that

1:34:41 ↗ we've heard and discussions that we've

1:34:42 ↗ had have veered into many different

1:34:44 ↗ topics, but tonight we are here to

1:34:46 ↗ decide on if the amendment complies with

1:34:49 ↗ code, and if the proposed amendments

1:34:51 ↗ should be approved. So those amendments

1:34:54 ↗ are splitting phase one into phase 1 A

1:34:56 ↗ and B, the revisions to the building

1:34:59 ↗ which is phase 1 A, the facade, entry,

1:35:02 ↗ loading, dock, trash, enclosure,

1:35:04 ↗ relocation, and the associated site

1:35:06 ↗ changes like parking, landscaping, site

1:35:09 ↗ infrastructure. That is the focus of

1:35:11 ↗ what the approval or um conditional

1:35:13 ↗ approval or denial is on tonight is the

1:35:16 ↗ requested amendments.

1:35:20 ↗ Thank you. Commissioners, are there any

1:35:22 ↗ objections to closing the public

1:35:23 ↗ hearing?

1:35:25 ↗ Hearing no objections, I now close the

1:35:27 ↗ public hearing at 8:10 p.m.

1:35:33 ↗ It's now time to move into the

1:35:34 ↗ deliberation portion of the meeting. But

1:35:36 ↗ first, we need to make a motion. Is

1:35:38 ↗ there a motion on the item before the

1:35:40 ↗ commission?

1:35:53 ↗ Michael.

1:35:57 ↗ >> Thank you, chair. I move the development

1:35:59 ↗ commission approve the major amendments

1:36:02 ↗ to the site development permit and

1:36:03 ↗ master site plan known as Isizakquai

1:36:05 ↗ school number four and elementary school

1:36:08 ↗ number 17 MPa25-00003

1:36:14 ↗ as described and evaluated in the staff

1:36:16 ↗ report dated November 4th, 2025 and

1:36:20 ↗ exhibits 1 through13 subject to the

1:36:22 ↗ conditions therein and as amended

1:36:24 ↗ tonight. And I move that the development

1:36:27 ↗ commission direct the community planning

1:36:29 ↗ and development department to prepare

1:36:31 ↗ findings of fact and conclusions for

1:36:33 ↗ review and approval by the development

1:36:35 ↗ commission chairwoman affirming the

1:36:37 ↗ development commission's decision to

1:36:39 ↗ approve the major amendment to the site

1:36:41 ↗ development permit and master site plan

1:36:44 ↗ known as Isizakqua High School number

1:36:46 ↗ four and elementary school number 17

1:36:50 ↗ MSPA25-00003

1:36:54 ↗ as subject to to the conditions listed

1:36:56 ↗ in the staff report dated November 4th,

1:36:58 ↗ 2025 with exhibits 1 through 13 subject

1:37:02 ↗ to conditions therein and as amended

1:37:04 ↗ tonight.

1:37:06 ↗ >> Second.

1:37:07 ↗ >> Thank you. And now is there uh

1:37:10 ↗ commission discussion or any amendments?

1:37:17 ↗ Michael,

1:37:18 ↗ >> I am still um kind of pondering the

1:37:22 ↗ uh

1:37:24 ↗ condition where a permit expiration

1:37:26 ↗ occurs where we have um you know mass

1:37:31 ↗ clearing and grading and um removal of

1:37:34 ↗ significant trees on the site and

1:37:35 ↗ condition under the master development

1:37:37 ↗ per u plan to uh replace a significant

1:37:43 ↗ number of those trees. If the permit

1:37:47 ↗ expires in phase 1B and the elementary

1:37:50 ↗ school don't proceed, how is the commit

1:37:53 ↗ how is the is the condition remedied

1:37:56 ↗ with respect to that permit condition

1:37:59 ↗ meaning planting of the additional trees

1:38:03 ↗ to offset those that were removed during

1:38:05 ↗ the mass clearing. So, I'm still a bit

1:38:10 ↗ um perplexed by how that occurs if we

1:38:12 ↗ have an expiration of the permit without

1:38:14 ↗ a condition that says some form of

1:38:16 ↗ restoration needs to happen if the

1:38:19 ↗ site's going to be um if mass clearing

1:38:21 ↗ and grading happens at the beginning

1:38:23 ↗ here in phase 1 A for the entire

1:38:25 ↗ project.

1:38:34 ↗ Okay. Just making sure there was

1:38:36 ↗ anything you wanted to add. Um the

1:38:38 ↗ planting is happening within phase 1 A

1:38:41 ↗ of the trees. Was that the the

1:38:44 ↗ >> right so

1:38:44 ↗ >> central part of your question?

1:38:46 ↗ >> Yes. So for phase 1 a all of the

1:38:51 ↗ required replacement trees the 900 I

1:38:55 ↗ believe 900 trees that were going to be

1:38:58 ↗ planted as part of the offset for those

1:39:01 ↗ significant trees that are being removed

1:39:04 ↗ would be planted as part of one a

1:39:06 ↗ >> yes

1:39:09 ↗ >> from my memory of the landscape plan.

1:39:12 ↗ Yes.

1:39:20 ↗ Oh, yes.

1:39:22 ↗ >> We'll we'll share the podium to answer.

1:39:25 ↗ >> Yeah. So, the majority of the trees will

1:39:27 ↗ be planted in phase 1A because because

1:39:30 ↗ we're, you know, doing those areas

1:39:31 ↗ around the outside. There's some trees

1:39:33 ↗ within the elementary school site along

1:39:35 ↗ their frontage that will not be built,

1:39:38 ↗ but it's less than 5% of what we're

1:39:42 ↗ proposed to to put back on that area.

1:39:45 ↗ So, the majority of the trees will be

1:39:46 ↗ planted in phase 1 A.

1:39:49 ↗ >> Can we see the planting plan for 1A?

1:39:55 ↗ >> Yes. Give me a second to pull it up if

1:39:56 ↗ there's another question while I'm

1:39:58 ↗ pulling that up. I

1:40:00 ↗ >> just another Oh, go ahead if you want.

1:40:03 ↗ >> I just had a clarification on that

1:40:05 ↗ question. Um, but that would not return

1:40:10 ↗ the

1:40:12 ↗ elementary school and the baseball field

1:40:14 ↗ sites to its original condition even if

1:40:16 ↗ you included the subgraing stuff. You

1:40:18 ↗ mentioned before that it would be you

1:40:20 ↗ hydro seedated or something.

1:40:21 ↗ >> Yeah. Or it'll be likely hydro seated um

1:40:25 ↗ and stabilized from an erosion control

1:40:26 ↗ standpoint. Um but yeah, not not

1:40:29 ↗ replanting it with trees that we're

1:40:31 ↗ going to have to get a permit to cut

1:40:32 ↗ down to build the elementary school.

1:40:37 ↗ >> So, another somewhat related question.

1:40:40 ↗ So, the storm water

1:40:43 ↗ um system that's being developed as part

1:40:47 ↗ of phase 1A that that's I just want to

1:40:50 ↗ affirm to confirm this that that will

1:40:52 ↗ satisfy all of the the code requirements

1:40:55 ↗ for um water quality detention

1:40:59 ↗ um and discharge etc. And if it had to

1:41:04 ↗ exist for years beyond what's

1:41:07 ↗ anticipated here, um if this went ahead,

1:41:09 ↗ as the school district hopes it does

1:41:11 ↗ with phase one be proceeding, it would

1:41:14 ↗ still satisfy those requirements. It's

1:41:16 ↗ not a temporary condition. It's it would

1:41:18 ↗ meet the permanent condition of of water

1:41:20 ↗ quality and detention.

1:41:21 ↗ >> Yeah, it that's 100% correct. There's

1:41:24 ↗ nine minimum requirements for storm

1:41:26 ↗ water that we need to meet as part of

1:41:27 ↗ that manual. So, our proposal meets all

1:41:30 ↗ nine. I'm not going to bore you with

1:41:32 ↗ going through them all. Obviously, water

1:41:33 ↗ quality and flow control are kind of the

1:41:35 ↗ two big ones. Um and and so we're

1:41:38 ↗ meeting both those ponds will function.

1:41:40 ↗ The city's, I'm sure, going to require

1:41:42 ↗ us to put um agreements in place to make

1:41:45 ↗ sure they're being maintained and all

1:41:47 ↗ those things and um inspected on a

1:41:50 ↗ yearly basis and all the things you'd

1:41:52 ↗ have with a permanent system. So, that

1:41:54 ↗ will happen as part of the project.

1:41:56 ↗ >> Yeah. Would you explain flow control and

1:41:58 ↗ forest and condition? I want to make

1:42:00 ↗ sure everybody understands that.

1:42:01 ↗ >> Yeah. So, um, probably the easiest way

1:42:04 ↗ to describe this is if you if you So, we

1:42:08 ↗ have an allowed release rate. So, we if

1:42:10 ↗ you had the amount of water that comes

1:42:12 ↗ off a site um in a forested condition

1:42:15 ↗ and then you took that and compared that

1:42:17 ↗ to um a parking lot. Okay? you're going

1:42:20 ↗ to have a lot more water running off

1:42:21 ↗ from the parking lot condition because

1:42:23 ↗ you don't have the ground taking soils,

1:42:26 ↗ you don't have the trees taking up so up

1:42:28 ↗ the water, all those pieces, right? So,

1:42:30 ↗ the way the storm rider manual is set up

1:42:32 ↗ and so we run a somewhat complicated

1:42:35 ↗ model um that's called western

1:42:37 ↗ Washington hydraulic model. And so, what

1:42:39 ↗ we do is we say, okay, we're allowed to

1:42:41 ↗ release at this rate, right? And so, for

1:42:44 ↗ us, there's a whole bunch of different

1:42:45 ↗ ways to get there, but for our site,

1:42:47 ↗ we're going back to forested. So as soon

1:42:49 ↗ as we disturb the parking lot that I was

1:42:51 ↗ telling you was there, we're required to

1:42:52 ↗ take it back to forested conditions. So

1:42:54 ↗ we come up with a release rate from our

1:42:56 ↗ site based on that and then we put build

1:42:59 ↗ a bucket to take all the water that's

1:43:01 ↗ coming that's above that, right? And

1:43:03 ↗ we're metering out of that bucket. So if

1:43:05 ↗ you take a garden hose out of a bucket

1:43:06 ↗ and let the river run into it, that's

1:43:08 ↗ kind of what we're doing. And then you

1:43:09 ↗ size the bucket big enough to take your

1:43:13 ↗ storm event. So, we're running up to,

1:43:15 ↗ you know, a 100red-year storm event,

1:43:17 ↗ holding it on site and releasing it at a

1:43:19 ↗ slower rate. It's a little more

1:43:20 ↗ complicated than that because you can

1:43:22 ↗ imagine as it rains harder, you're

1:43:24 ↗ discharging more water. So, there's a

1:43:26 ↗ whole bunch of orififices and things in

1:43:28 ↗ there that we're doing to release at

1:43:30 ↗ different rates, but it's really trying

1:43:31 ↗ to mimic what's happening in the

1:43:33 ↗ existing condition. Um, that make sense?

1:43:37 ↗ >> Yep.

1:43:38 ↗ >> Thank you.

1:43:40 ↗ Um, as far as the trees, apologies,

1:43:43 ↗ Commissioner Brennan, I misremembered

1:43:45 ↗ the landscape. So, they're not planting

1:43:47 ↗ all the trees, but all the trees that

1:43:49 ↗ are required to meet code. So, um,

1:43:51 ↗ there's the landscaping and the tree uh,

1:43:55 ↗ retention and tree density meets code at

1:43:58 ↗ the end of phase 1 A, even if they're

1:43:59 ↗ not planting all the planned trees as

1:44:01 ↗ part of phase 1 A. Um, because as the

1:44:04 ↗ applicant stated, some will be planted

1:44:05 ↗ as part of the elementary school. And

1:44:07 ↗ you can see on the phasing plan here,

1:44:12 ↗ >> Richard,

1:44:13 ↗ >> still on the storm water. Before we get

1:44:15 ↗ too far away from that, I'm still having

1:44:16 ↗ trouble with this uh seat condition 14.

1:44:20 ↗ It says to comply with city of Esqua

1:44:22 ↗ code requirements to maximize usable

1:44:24 ↗ areas of the site. All storm water

1:44:27 ↗ detention and treatment will be provided

1:44:29 ↗ below ground in vaults, tanks, and other

1:44:32 ↗ proprietary systems. and in the SEIPA

1:44:36 ↗ matrix that's marked yes for phase 1A. I

1:44:40 ↗ wonder how do you see that those two

1:44:45 ↗ being consistent? Uh does it have to do

1:44:47 ↗ with the proprietary systems in phase 1

1:44:50 ↗ A would satisfy that and that's why it's

1:44:52 ↗ marked yes for phase 1 A?

1:44:54 ↗ >> No. And so in my my opinion so we're

1:44:57 ↗ trying to maximize usable space, right?

1:45:01 ↗ So, if we're not using that space,

1:45:04 ↗ providing an above ground system still

1:45:06 ↗ meets that, not above ground, I'm going

1:45:08 ↗ to stop using that word. An open air

1:45:11 ↗ storm water system um meets meets the

1:45:14 ↗ intent of that. So, we're not taking

1:45:17 ↗ area. We would love to put it

1:45:18 ↗ underground and build the baseball field

1:45:20 ↗ as you heard Martin talk about, but but

1:45:23 ↗ just costwise, it doesn't make sense to

1:45:25 ↗ do that for something we're not going to

1:45:27 ↗ build right now. So that that's our

1:45:29 ↗ intent is that um we've met that because

1:45:32 ↗ we're not actually building over that

1:45:34 ↗ area. Longterm we will phase 1B that's

1:45:36 ↗ the intent. Put it underground and do

1:45:38 ↗ that. The original plans had um the same

1:45:43 ↗ condition on the um

1:45:47 ↗ elementary school. We had ponds proposed

1:45:49 ↗ there um and and they were agreed to as

1:45:52 ↗ part of the original piece. So I don't

1:45:54 ↗ think that's inconsistent with the

1:45:57 ↗ recommendations of staff.

1:45:59 ↗ >> Okay. And before you go away, um there

1:46:02 ↗ were concerns expressed regarding

1:46:05 ↗ communication with city of Seamish

1:46:07 ↗ regarding the requirements in that area.

1:46:09 ↗ And I think that staff report and

1:46:13 ↗ possibly the project overview said that

1:46:16 ↗ negotiations were underway with city of

1:46:18 ↗ Seamish regarding this project. Could

1:46:20 ↗ you clarify that a little bit? what's

1:46:22 ↗ what's going on behind the scenes that

1:46:24 ↗ we are not aware of?

1:46:25 ↗ >> Absolutely. Yeah. So, um our frontage is

1:46:28 ↗ in d our traffic goes to 228th. The

1:46:34 ↗ easement or the city boundary is our

1:46:36 ↗ property line along that area. So, our

1:46:39 ↗ improvements in 228th need approval from

1:46:43 ↗ the city of Isiqua. We've been through

1:46:45 ↗ three rounds of comment revisions with

1:46:47 ↗ the city of Isiziqua. They've commented

1:46:49 ↗ on um storm water traffic turning

1:46:53 ↗ movements, queuing lengths, um discharge

1:46:56 ↗ of water. There's an existing, it was

1:46:58 ↗ mentioned that the water runs kind of

1:47:00 ↗ we're going to discharge the water and

1:47:02 ↗ it's going to run down the hill. So,

1:47:03 ↗ there's an existing ditch on the other

1:47:05 ↗ side that runs kind of through some

1:47:07 ↗ neighborhoods and down and ultimately

1:47:08 ↗ goes to Lapping Jacobs Creek. So, they

1:47:10 ↗ had improvements they wanted to that. Um

1:47:13 ↗ but we've been through three rounds of

1:47:15 ↗ um review comments with them. And we've

1:47:17 ↗ had multiple meetings with them over the

1:47:19 ↗ last two or three years to to get

1:47:21 ↗ through that process.

1:47:22 ↗ >> That's with city of Seamish.

1:47:23 ↗ >> Yes.

1:47:24 ↗ >> Okay.

1:47:25 ↗ >> Katie.

1:47:26 ↗ >> Yeah. Because I'm sorry, but if I heard

1:47:27 ↗ that, you were saying city of Isiziqua.

1:47:30 ↗ >> Sorry.

1:47:30 ↗ >> We have a very Yeah,

1:47:33 ↗ >> this the city boundaries are like super

1:47:34 ↗ complicated for where they are. So the

1:47:37 ↗ we do have frontage improvements in

1:47:38 ↗ Isiqua. We've been through a similar

1:47:40 ↗ process with the Isle part. Um but we

1:47:42 ↗ we've submitted for both permits. from

1:47:45 ↗ this standpoint, we've submitted for

1:47:46 ↗ every permit needed on our site. So,

1:47:49 ↗ sewer and water and all that wonderful

1:47:51 ↗ stuff.

1:47:52 ↗ >> Thank you,

1:47:53 ↗ >> Katie.

1:47:54 ↗ >> Um, so just to get back to I I guess

1:47:57 ↗ this uh condition 11 and you know what

1:48:00 ↗ happens to the baseball field site and

1:48:02 ↗ the elementary school site. Um, so I'm

1:48:04 ↗ just, you know, it says if if one, so if

1:48:08 ↗ one B 1B doesn't get funded and doesn't,

1:48:10 ↗ there's no permit for it. My

1:48:13 ↗ understanding is then that the

1:48:15 ↗ elementary school site would likely be

1:48:18 ↗ stabilized, right? So everything will be

1:48:20 ↗ stabilized. Um, uh, Geotech will be

1:48:23 ↗ taken care of and hydro seated probably.

1:48:27 ↗ And then there'll be an open air pond on

1:48:29 ↗ the baseball field site

1:48:31 ↗ >> and the outside of that would all be

1:48:33 ↗ hydro seated like same condition like

1:48:35 ↗ all the all the areas we're not building

1:48:37 ↗ on are going to be hydro seated or um

1:48:41 ↗ stabilized in some way.

1:48:43 ↗ >> So um and that'll happen you know within

1:48:46 ↗ and then that'll be finished um whatever

1:48:48 ↗ is not done now would be finished within

1:48:50 ↗ three months of knowing that we there's

1:48:52 ↗ no per additional permit coming. And I'm

1:48:54 ↗ wondering would is this sound like the

1:48:57 ↗ type of plan that would be approved by

1:48:59 ↗ the city and why there's no plan for it

1:49:05 ↗ >> because it so the condition 11 says um

1:49:09 ↗ you know blah blah blah stockpile shall

1:49:10 ↗ be on roof site restored and stabilized

1:49:12 ↗ based on a removal plan approved by the

1:49:14 ↗ city. It sounds like you're stating a

1:49:16 ↗ removal plan here, but there is no real

1:49:18 ↗ removal plan. So, we don't know what

1:49:20 ↗ would be

1:49:21 ↗ >> The condition was written because I

1:49:23 ↗ literally drew a plan where we were

1:49:24 ↗ going to stockpile a whole bunch of dirt

1:49:26 ↗ on the elementary school site as a cost

1:49:29 ↗ savings measure. Like, to be perfectly

1:49:30 ↗ honest, that's how we got here um or

1:49:33 ↗ there. Um so, we're not proposing to do

1:49:35 ↗ that. We're we're not going to have haul

1:49:37 ↗ off at the end. There was just a concern

1:49:39 ↗ that we were going to use that dirt in a

1:49:41 ↗ future phase, so we're going to

1:49:42 ↗ stockpile it. Um that's obviously not

1:49:44 ↗ the proposal now. So I don't think

1:49:47 ↗ >> so so this plan to finish to leave it

1:49:50 ↗ with the hydra seating and the open air

1:49:52 ↗ pond would be something that would be

1:49:55 ↗ approved.

1:49:56 ↗ >> Yeah. I the other piece with the the

1:49:58 ↗ three months like the reality is the

1:50:01 ↗ state of Washington department of

1:50:02 ↗ ecology has requirements of how long you

1:50:04 ↗ can leave a site unstabilized and not

1:50:07 ↗ work. It's significantly shorter than

1:50:09 ↗ three months even in the summer. So, um,

1:50:12 ↗ it will be stabilized long before that.

1:50:18 ↗ >> Would you pull condition 11 up on the

1:50:20 ↗ screen?

1:50:26 ↗ >> Seems like that's the one we keep

1:50:27 ↗ centering on. So, I want to look at it

1:50:29 ↗ and see if there's anything specific we

1:50:31 ↗ want to change.

1:50:32 ↗ >> And my question is more just with regard

1:50:36 ↗ to the phasing. If there's going to be a

1:50:38 ↗ phasing, then there's a chance that 1B

1:50:40 ↗ doesn't get done. Then then what is

1:50:42 ↗ there a plan that needs any sort of

1:50:44 ↗ approval or what happens? And 11, I'm

1:50:48 ↗ not sure if 11 means that there is or or

1:50:50 ↗ not.

1:50:51 ↗ >> Sure. I I guess yeah, city the question

1:50:54 ↗ is

1:50:57 ↗ if there is no 1B, is there anything

1:51:00 ↗ further needed from the district?

1:51:08 ↗ Is that what you're looking for?

1:51:11 ↗ >> Can I can

1:51:13 ↗ >> Yeah, it just says um the the site needs

1:51:16 ↗ to be and I understand with the history

1:51:17 ↗ of it needs to be put in some condition

1:51:20 ↗ that would be approved by the city. So

1:51:23 ↗ um we don't have in front of us what

1:51:26 ↗ that condition might be. So we we don't

1:51:29 ↗ know what the ultimate disposition of

1:51:30 ↗ the site might be if 1B is not approved.

1:51:33 ↗ >> Yeah. So, our proposal for 1A, so we've

1:51:37 ↗ submitted site development permits at

1:51:38 ↗ this point for those for that area. Um,

1:51:42 ↗ it has the plantings and things required

1:51:44 ↗ to meet. So the the parking lot area out

1:51:47 ↗ in front of the school that we're

1:51:48 ↗ building that eventually we end up

1:51:50 ↗ expanding the parking garage over that

1:51:54 ↗ whole hillside gets planted with code

1:51:56 ↗ required plantings to buffer the

1:52:00 ↗ above ground not above ground the

1:52:03 ↗ standard parking facilities.

1:52:06 ↗ So so we're we're meeting those

1:52:07 ↗ requirements. That's really temporary

1:52:09 ↗ landscaping that we're putting in to

1:52:11 ↗ meet the city's code. So, we can tell

1:52:13 ↗ you that we're meeting current code.

1:52:15 ↗ It's money we're spending to to make

1:52:17 ↗ sure we're meeting current code right

1:52:18 ↗ now that will get at some point taken

1:52:21 ↗ out when that area gets expanded. Um,

1:52:24 ↗ and then the baseball field, we show

1:52:25 ↗ hydro seating across that area um as

1:52:28 ↗ part of it. There's an access road um

1:52:31 ↗ existing on the site that goes through

1:52:33 ↗ the buffer area that we agreed to with

1:52:35 ↗ PPUA. Um that that access road gets

1:52:39 ↗ removed. We're doing all the buffer

1:52:40 ↗ plantings and those pieces as part of

1:52:42 ↗ that. So, um, we really did design phase

1:52:45 ↗ 1A to to have the ultimate condition

1:52:47 ↗ that we think is going to be there for a

1:52:48 ↗ little while. Um, obviously if we get

1:52:52 ↗ funding and are able to move forward

1:52:53 ↗ with the next phase early, that would be

1:52:56 ↗ great, but that's not we're planning

1:52:57 ↗ for.

1:53:02 ↗ >> Any other commission questions?

1:53:07 ↗ Michael,

1:53:08 ↗ >> still following up on your question

1:53:10 ↗ because I don't think we have an answer

1:53:11 ↗ yet. What happens? So, we have not

1:53:13 ↗ satisfied all the conditions of the

1:53:15 ↗ master development permit. If phase 1B

1:53:18 ↗ does not proceed, how do you how do you

1:53:22 ↗ ensure that the site is restored in some

1:53:24 ↗ condition that that um said you you

1:53:27 ↗ mentioned um that all of the trees would

1:53:29 ↗ not be planted in one B. and we're going

1:53:32 ↗ to hydro seed, but is that the restored

1:53:35 ↗ condition that the city is looking for?

1:53:37 ↗ Or are there other requirements that the

1:53:39 ↗ city has in code that says since the

1:53:41 ↗ project did not proceed now, you're

1:53:43 ↗ obligated to

1:53:46 ↗ do something here or is that at the

1:53:48 ↗ discretion of the city?

1:53:50 ↗ >> There's not specific code requirements

1:53:53 ↗ like in our land use code that says, you

1:53:55 ↗ know, if in any project if phase two

1:53:58 ↗ doesn't happen, this is what has to

1:53:59 ↗ happen. Um, like the applicant said,

1:54:02 ↗ there's Department of Ecology standards

1:54:04 ↗ that require things to be returned and,

1:54:05 ↗ um, you know, there is this condition

1:54:08 ↗ about restoring the land. Um, if the

1:54:10 ↗ elementary school isn't done, the

1:54:12 ↗ commission is welcome to add a condition

1:54:14 ↗ onto the amendment about if phase 1B

1:54:16 ↗ isn't done. If you want a similar

1:54:17 ↗ condition as this ending of um,

1:54:19 ↗ condition 11 about res have to make sure

1:54:22 ↗ that phase 1B area is restored as well,

1:54:25 ↗ but there is not a specific code

1:54:26 ↗ requirement around that.

1:54:28 ↗ >> Yeah. So then the question becomes

1:54:30 ↗ what's the standard that you would have

1:54:32 ↗ to meet or is it like back at the

1:54:33 ↗ discretion if we added a condition like

1:54:35 ↗ that would that be at the discretion of

1:54:37 ↗ the city to decide whether additional

1:54:40 ↗ tree plantings would be required to uh

1:54:43 ↗ replace those that have been removed

1:54:45 ↗ that haven't been uh as part of the

1:54:46 ↗ original condition or some other

1:54:49 ↗ condition that you would have applied to

1:54:51 ↗ the property to ensure it's stable and

1:54:54 ↗ >> sure

1:54:54 ↗ >> meets the environmental requirements.

1:54:56 ↗ Yeah, I would imagine it would be

1:54:57 ↗ something along the lines of the end of

1:54:59 ↗ condition 11. But um the

1:55:03 ↗ for instance the landscape permit that's

1:55:05 ↗ going to be required the landscape

1:55:06 ↗ construction permit that's going to be

1:55:08 ↗ required as part of phase 1A that's

1:55:10 ↗ submitted for that makes sure that all

1:55:14 ↗ required trees have been planted all

1:55:16 ↗ plant all required plantings have been

1:55:18 ↗ planted. So it it's not like there will

1:55:20 ↗ be any trees that haven't been planted

1:55:23 ↗ yet that are required to meet tree

1:55:25 ↗ density, tree replacement, those type of

1:55:27 ↗ standards. The landscape construction

1:55:29 ↗ permit ensures that the code required

1:55:31 ↗ plantings and trees happen

1:55:33 ↗ >> with phase 1 A

1:55:34 ↗ >> with phase 1 A.

1:55:36 ↗ >> Okay. Okay.

1:55:39 ↗ >> Yeah. John,

1:55:41 ↗ >> uh, getting back to when you talked

1:55:43 ↗ about leaving the area that's cleared

1:55:46 ↗ and grub and the state would have a

1:55:47 ↗ different requirement.

1:55:48 ↗ >> What what are those requirements that

1:55:50 ↗ for instance if one 1A doesn't get done

1:55:52 ↗ and we have some areas that are they're

1:55:54 ↗ exposed

1:55:55 ↗ >> at some grade? What would the state

1:55:57 ↗ require you to do?

1:55:58 ↗ >> So the the state basically has

1:56:00 ↗ requirements and it comes down to wet

1:56:02 ↗ season or dry season. So they define

1:56:04 ↗ that in the manual, but basically if

1:56:06 ↗ you're in the summer, you can go up to

1:56:09 ↗ 30 days without before you have to cover

1:56:12 ↗ or hydro seed or do something with that

1:56:14 ↗ area. During the winter, you get three

1:56:17 ↗ days.

1:56:19 ↗ >> So So the state requires covering, hydro

1:56:23 ↗ seeding or hay bales or something like

1:56:25 ↗ that.

1:56:26 ↗ >> Yep. Yeah. So there's an NPDS

1:56:28 ↗ requirement for construction. The city

1:56:30 ↗ has one for their storm water system.

1:56:32 ↗ Each construction site gets kind of the

1:56:34 ↗ same thing. And then we're monitoring

1:56:36 ↗ water leaving our site, verifying that

1:56:38 ↗ we're we're within the um

1:56:43 ↗ erosion limits of the water that leaves

1:56:45 ↗ our site. And um so we need to meet

1:56:48 ↗ those requirements as well as the the

1:56:50 ↗ clearing and um coverage requirements.

1:56:54 ↗ >> In your opinion, is the state more

1:56:56 ↗ stringent or is the city of Isqua?

1:56:59 ↗ >> It's it's kind of two different

1:57:00 ↗ standards. So, the city code requires

1:57:03 ↗ you to get the state permit. So, you're

1:57:06 ↗ kind of covered on both standpoints. Um,

1:57:08 ↗ I think the way the condition was worded

1:57:11 ↗ was was really trying to get at removing

1:57:14 ↗ the stockpile I drew like that. That was

1:57:16 ↗ really the goal of it. And so once we

1:57:18 ↗ did that, we want to make sure that you

1:57:20 ↗ get something down. And so, that's the

1:57:22 ↗ language that was come up with.

1:57:28 ↗ Richard,

1:57:28 ↗ >> one more question for staff regarding

1:57:31 ↗ impact fees.

1:57:33 ↗ So, SEPA matrix condition 65 says the

1:57:36 ↗ project will pay transportation impact

1:57:38 ↗ fees the city of Isiqua in accordance

1:57:41 ↗ with IMC 3.71

1:57:44 ↗ and 3.71 refers to a subsection 3.710

1:57:49 ↗ fee collection. The traffic impact fee

1:57:52 ↗ shall be calculated and assessed at the

1:57:54 ↗ time of issuance of a building permit

1:57:56 ↗ except as provided in a subsection which

1:58:00 ↗ refers to single family homes only. No

1:58:03 ↗ building permit shall be issued until

1:58:04 ↗ the impact fee has been paid in full by

1:58:07 ↗ the applicant provided that payment of

1:58:10 ↗ the impact fee may be phased if the

1:58:12 ↗ building permit for the development is

1:58:14 ↗ also phased.

1:58:16 ↗ However, in the SEIPA matrix, it looks

1:58:20 ↗ like impact fee is only collected to be

1:58:22 ↗ collected at the end of phase two. Is

1:58:24 ↗ that correct?

1:58:28 ↗ >> Um, honestly, I'm not quite sure the

1:58:30 ↗ condition you're referring to. The

1:58:32 ↗ impact fees come with the building

1:58:34 ↗ permits. So, that's not something that I

1:58:36 ↗ evaluated as part of the amendment since

1:58:38 ↗ that's outside the scope of what the

1:58:40 ↗ amendment was about. That's not a

1:58:41 ↗ specific portion that I looked at.

1:58:43 ↗ Generally, yes. Impact fees are

1:58:46 ↗ collected at building permit issuance.

1:58:50 ↗ >> Okay. And this may be phased. So

1:58:55 ↗ that's collected only at the end of

1:58:56 ↗ phase two, however, and not building

1:58:58 ↗ permit issuance at phase 1 A, 1B, and

1:59:03 ↗ two.

1:59:04 ↗ >> Yeah.

1:59:04 ↗ >> So we last time got to the point where

1:59:08 ↗ we were about ready to pick up our

1:59:09 ↗ permit. And so there's a big number for

1:59:11 ↗ that permit which includes the impact

1:59:13 ↗ fees. So you would pay the impact fees

1:59:16 ↗ for each individual building permit. So

1:59:18 ↗ we'll have a phase 1A building permit,

1:59:21 ↗ phase 1 B that obviously they're it's

1:59:25 ↗ based on students. So the fee goes down

1:59:27 ↗ a little bit and we pay it in chunks

1:59:29 ↗ which is great for the school district,

1:59:31 ↗ great for the city. You'll get money

1:59:32 ↗ over a long time. So

1:59:33 ↗ >> So it is paid in chunks. Yeah, it looks

1:59:35 ↗ like in the matrix it's only yes at the

1:59:38 ↗ end of phase two.

1:59:40 ↗ Oh, I got you. Sorry for that.

1:59:41 ↗ >> Okay, we've got chunks. Thank you. That

1:59:43 ↗ that makes sense. Thank you.

1:59:48 ↗ >> Any other comments, questions?

1:59:58 ↗ >> Maybe just a comment. Um, so

2:00:02 ↗ as was mentioned at the beginning of the

2:00:03 ↗ staff presentation that what's in front

2:00:05 ↗ of us is a pretty narrow scope of an

2:00:08 ↗ amendment. um recognizing that

2:00:11 ↗ um you know this the future of this

2:00:14 ↗ project is um still a question but I

2:00:17 ↗ can't see the future. So leave that to

2:00:19 ↗ the school district to um plan for their

2:00:22 ↗ needs um and um strategies for funding

2:00:27 ↗ um school projects. Um the the

2:00:30 ↗ amendments that we have in front of us,

2:00:32 ↗ I think there were a number of questions

2:00:33 ↗ that we had. Um I've got satisfactory

2:00:36 ↗ responses to the questions that I have

2:00:38 ↗ about um the project and how it will

2:00:41 ↗ proceed in this new phased approach as

2:00:43 ↗ well as the minor amendments to the to

2:00:46 ↗ the um building entrance and uh loading

2:00:50 ↗ dock and trash etc. So, I'm prepared to

2:00:54 ↗ support the motion um tonight um but

2:00:57 ↗ also uh recognize the passion that's in

2:01:00 ↗ the room and appreciate the comments um

2:01:03 ↗ very articulate and knowledgeable people

2:01:06 ↗ walked up to the microphone tonight um

2:01:07 ↗ who care about the the city, care about

2:01:10 ↗ schools um and I think the future um and

2:01:14 ↗ I I hope that people remain engaged and

2:01:17 ↗ and hopefully there's a successful

2:01:19 ↗ outcome um for everyone here if that's

2:01:22 ↗ possible. posible. But in any case, I'm

2:01:23 ↗ prepared to support the motion that's on

2:01:26 ↗ the floor.

2:01:32 ↗ >> Well,

2:01:33 ↗ >> I guess just one comment too about about

2:01:36 ↗ um section 11 or condition 11. It seems

2:01:39 ↗ like that's been one of our biggest

2:01:41 ↗ question marks is what happens if we do

2:01:43 ↗ 1 A but not 1 B.

2:01:46 ↗ But looking back on it, section

2:01:48 ↗ condition 11 was written on the basis

2:01:51 ↗ what if there was phase one but not

2:01:53 ↗ phase two. So now we're just going phase

2:01:55 ↗ one A and B. So it was the approval was

2:01:59 ↗ anticipating the possibility of it not

2:02:01 ↗ going all the way through.

2:02:04 ↗ So in terms of trying to make changes

2:02:06 ↗ there, I'm not sure how we would do that

2:02:08 ↗ despite the question marks. I think

2:02:10 ↗ there would have been question marks

2:02:12 ↗ then. So just one thought about that.

2:02:18 ↗ Uh, I also want to thank staff and the

2:02:20 ↗ applicant for addressing the commission

2:02:23 ↗ and the public's comments and questions.

2:02:26 ↗ I think you covered everything that came

2:02:27 ↗ up tonight.

2:02:32 ↗ Just want to mention uh it's been a

2:02:33 ↗ while since my daughter's been in Isiqua

2:02:35 ↗ High School, but recently I've been

2:02:37 ↗ doing some mentoring in the school

2:02:39 ↗ system and my mentee moved on from

2:02:41 ↗ middle school to high school and I

2:02:43 ↗ haven't been that was my first

2:02:45 ↗ opportunity to be in Isiqua High School

2:02:47 ↗ recently and I can vouch for the

2:02:50 ↗ observations that it is highly

2:02:52 ↗ overcrowded. I really could not imagine

2:02:55 ↗ the amount of traffic that was going on

2:02:56 ↗ between class and after lunch period. So

2:02:59 ↗ I think the development is clearly a

2:03:02 ↗ school that we need.

2:03:08 ↗ >> Thank you. Does that conclude

2:03:10 ↗ deliberation?

2:03:14 ↗ All right. And then uh I think we should

2:03:17 ↗ restate

2:03:20 ↗ um

2:03:22 ↗ the motion. And my computer fell asleep.

2:03:24 ↗ Would someone else mind reading it?

2:03:30 ↗ Madam Chair, I'd be happy to do that.

2:03:31 ↗ >> Thank you.

2:03:32 ↗ >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, let's do that.

2:03:46 ↗ Madam Chair, I move that the development

2:03:48 ↗ commission approve the major amendments

2:03:50 ↗ to the site development permit and

2:03:51 ↗ master site plan known as Isizqua High

2:03:53 ↗ School number four and elementary school

2:03:54 ↗ number 17 MSPA25-00003

2:04:00 ↗ as described and evaluated in the staff

2:04:02 ↗ report date dated November 4th, 2025

2:04:06 ↗ with exhibits 1 through 13 subject to

2:04:08 ↗ the conditions therein and as amended

2:04:10 ↗ tonight. And and I move that the

2:04:13 ↗ development commission direct the

2:04:14 ↗ community planning and development

2:04:16 ↗ department to prepare findings of fact

2:04:18 ↗ and conclusions for review and approval

2:04:20 ↗ by the development commission chairwoman

2:04:22 ↗ affirming the development commission's

2:04:24 ↗ decision to approve the major amendment

2:04:26 ↗ to the site development permit and

2:04:28 ↗ master site plan known as Isizqua High

2:04:30 ↗ School number four and elementary school

2:04:32 ↗ number 17.

2:04:34 ↗ MSPA-

2:04:37 ↗ MSPA25-

2:04:38 ↗ Z0000003

2:04:40 ↗ subject to the conditions listed in the

2:04:42 ↗ staff report dated November 4th, 2025

2:04:45 ↗ with exhibits 1 through 13 subject to

2:04:48 ↗ the conditions therein and as amended

2:04:50 ↗ tonight.

2:04:52 ↗ >> All in favor of the main motion say I.

2:04:55 ↗ >> I. I.

2:04:56 ↗ >> Chair, did you get a second?

2:04:59 ↗ >> Oh, sorry. Just making sure.

2:05:08 ↗ >> The motion is approved.

2:05:15 ↗ Ola, did you vote?

2:05:22 ↗ Ola, you're on mute.

2:05:42 ↗ Ola, did you vote?

2:05:44 ↗ >> I I did vote. I'm sorry.

2:05:47 ↗ >> Okay. And what is your vote?

2:05:50 ↗ >> Uh I I move to approve.

2:05:52 ↗ >> Okay. Thank you.

2:05:54 ↗ So the motion is approved.

2:06:02 ↗ This concludes the major amendment to

2:06:04 ↗ the master site plan and site

2:06:06 ↗ development permit for Isiqua High

2:06:07 ↗ School number four and elementary school

2:06:09 ↗ number 17 permit. A notice of decision

2:06:11 ↗ will be issued by staff within 7 days.

2:06:17 ↗ Uh staff, are there any city council

2:06:19 ↗ updates?

2:06:20 ↗ >> There are not.

2:06:21 ↗ >> Okay. And any other business the

2:06:23 ↗ commission should be aware of? Um just

2:06:25 ↗ our December 3rd meeting, we will be

2:06:27 ↗ going over light rail study evaluation

2:06:29 ↗ criteria. Our senior transportation

2:06:31 ↗ planner will be here to discuss that

2:06:33 ↗ with the commissioners and we will also

2:06:35 ↗ be talking about amendments to our

2:06:37 ↗ rules.

2:06:39 ↗ >> Thank you.

2:06:40 ↗ >> Thank you to staff, the applicant, and

2:06:42 ↗ members of the public.

2:06:45 ↗ There being no further business before

2:06:46 ↗ the commission, I adjourn the meeting at

2:06:48 ↗ Oh, sorry, one more one more thing.

2:06:50 ↗ Well, I I actually I do have a few

2:06:52 ↗ council updates if you don't mind me

2:06:53 ↗ step back. Um I just wanted to let you

2:06:55 ↗ know recently we just updated all of our

2:06:57 ↗ permit fees. So those will uh go into

2:07:00 ↗ effect in um

2:07:04 ↗ January, sorry, 2026. Um we also updated

2:07:08 ↗ our school impact fees recently. Those

2:07:10 ↗ also go into effect on in January 20

2:07:13 ↗ January 1st. Um, we also talked about

2:07:16 ↗ the I don't know if you all have been

2:07:17 ↗ aware of the Belleview College

2:07:19 ↗ development agreement potential

2:07:20 ↗ expansion or expansion area. It's not a

2:07:22 ↗ potential area. It's 19 acres up in the

2:07:25 ↗ Isqua Highlands that was originally

2:07:26 ↗ washed out property purchased by Bel

2:07:28 ↗ Bellev College. They have asked to

2:07:31 ↗ extend their development agreement for

2:07:33 ↗ another year. With this extension, they

2:07:35 ↗ have the potential of putting housing up

2:07:38 ↗ on that site uh if it is approved by

2:07:42 ↗ city council for the next year. They

2:07:44 ↗ will do outreach to the city council or

2:07:46 ↗ outreach to the community and figure out

2:07:49 ↗ what they're going to do with that site

2:07:50 ↗ within that two years. If they want to

2:07:52 ↗ do housing, they can do it after that.

2:07:54 ↗ If it won't be extended anymore, they

2:07:57 ↗ only allowed to use institutional uses.

2:07:59 ↗ I just thought I'd update you on that.

2:08:00 ↗ And then our comprehensive plan was

2:08:02 ↗ recently updated as well. Just few

2:08:04 ↗ things going on.

2:08:07 ↗ Thank you.

2:08:09 ↗ There being no further business before

2:08:10 ↗ the commission, I adjourn the meeting at

2:08:13 ↗ 8:43 p.m.

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