Good evening and welcome. I would like to call the November 19th city of Isiqua Development Commission meeting to order at 6:35 p.m. As a reminder, we have a remote aspect to our meetings. This means both staff and members of the public may be participating in the meeting remotely via WebEx. For those attending remotely, if you have questions or issues, please send the host a chat message or email staff at emilymeed isquawah.gov. Excused absences for this meeting are Commissioner Price, alternate member Jeff Mayo is filling in for this evening as a regular member. Our first item of business is to take action on meeting minutes for October 15, 2025. Has everyone had an opportunity to review the minutes? Are there any corrections to the October 15th minutes provided in the agenda packet? Hearing none, the minutes are approved as submitted. Next, I would like to open the floor for any members of the public in person or virtually who would like to make a general comment. There will be a public hearing later in the meeting for those who would like to comment on the Isiqua High School number four and elementary school number 17 on the project. Miss Jackson, has anyone signed up to make general public comments? >> No, Chair, they have not. >> Okay. Would anyone here like to make general public comments? Okay. Our first agenda item is pre-decision open record public hearing. The order of operation for this hearing will be as follows. First, the purpose of the public hearing followed by our appearance of fairness doctrines. Then we'll open the public hearing with a staff presentation followed by an applicant presentation. Then open the floor for public comment. There will be opportunity for rebuttal by applicant then staff and then we will close the public hearing. That will be followed by commission deliberation, commission action and vote and concluding the agenda item. If for any reason the public hearing cannot be completed this evening, it may be continued at a specific date. This is the formal public hearing for the proposed major amendment to the master site plan and site development permit for Isiqua High School number four and elementary school number 17. The purpose of this hearing is to solicit relevant public comment and facilitate the review, discussion, and decision on the application by the development commission. This is a quasi judicial hearing. Emily, please proceed with our appearance of fairness disclosures. We we can't hear the audio from the room online. Commissioner Fashion, can you hear me? >> Okay. >> No, I can't. I couldn't before. No, now I can. >> Perfect. Thanks for letting me know. Right. Give me one second to share my screen. All right, starting with the appearance of fairness. Um so before we start our public hearing, we'll go through uh the appearance of fairness with our commissioners and audience members. Um this is a quasi judicial hearing. So the decision context um is that it requires proceedings to be fair in fact and appearance. Exparte contacts are prohibited. And the test is would a disinterested person knowing the totality of a decision maker's personal interest in a matter be reasonably justified in thinking that partiality may exist. Decision makers who have personal interest, prejudgment of issues or partiality are disqualified from the proceedings. So I will begin with questions for the commissioners. uh please just reply in the affirmative um after each question with the regard to the outcome of this proceeding. Do you have a personal interest financial or otherwise in the outcome? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Does your employer have an interest financial or otherwise in the outcome? >> No. >> No. >> Do you have any familial, social, or business relationships or connections with any of the parties or nonparties who have an interest in the outcome? >> No. >> No. No. >> Do you have any special knowledge about the substantive or the merits of this proceeding which would or could cause you to prejudge the outcome? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Will there be any prospective employment for you or your family as a result of the decision? >> No. >> No. >> Do you own or control property within 300 ft of the subject property? >> No. >> No. >> No. Have you had any exparte communications regarding this project? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Thank you. >> Overall, do you believe you can sit and hear this matter fairly and impartially both as to the respective positions of the proponents and the opponents of this matter? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Commissioners, questions for the audience. Does anyone in attendance wish to challenge the participation of any commissioner based on the appearance of fairness doctrine? Okay. Any objections virtually? If you have a virtual objection, please type objection into the chat window or raise your hand. No. All right. Thank you. Now I open the public hearing at 6:40 p.m. First, we'll proceed with the staff presentation. Emily, I'll need to swear you in. Please state your name and position with the city for the record. >> Emily Medina, senior planner. >> Do you swear by oath or affirmation that the testimony you're about to provide is true? I do. >> Thank you. Please proceed. Thank you. So tonight we're here uh for our public hearing to hear about the Isqua High School number four and elementary school number 17 master site plan and site development permit major amendment. Uh a little background on the uh context of the project. It is located at 4221 228th Avenue Southeast. It's zoned CFF which is our community facilities facility zoning with a designate land use designation of community facilities and it is in the Providence Point sub area. So uh going into the history of this permit as we are here tonight to talk about an amendment to the original permit. So, a site development permit and a master site plan as well as uh multiple administrative adjustment of standards um were heard before a public hearing before the development commission and then a decision was issued by city council. Uh it was approved with 52 land use conditions which incorporated 82 SEIPA mitigation measures all of which still apply to the project today um even with the amendment. The original proposal was for a consolidated high school and elementary school campus. Uh this includes many site amenities such as a stadium with track and field and grandstands, baseball and softball fields, tennis courts, outdoor learning space, playground, parking garage, and then the typical landscaping circulation utility improvements on site. So the process for the amendment um this procedure is reviewed under the current isqua municipal code. In the current isqua municipal code, there is no longer a master site plan permit. Um so amendments to my master site plan permits are combined with the criteria for site development permits. So only one amendment application is required as the uh review criteria are the same. um it is required to go through a major amendment process due to the change of the facade that's greater than 10% and changes that are inconsistent with what was originally uh approved. So that a major amendment requires a level four review which requires a hearing in a decision by the development commission. The scope of this review is narrow. It is focused on the proposed changes and the compliance of those changes with the code. So, uh, when it comes to code compliance, this project is vested to the 2021 land use code. So, the code that was in place when applied. Um, as I said, the conditions of the approved SDP and MSP and associated SEPA, MDNS mitigation measures still apply to this project. Um, compliance of the proposed changes was reviewed against by all original approval criteria in code sections in that vested code. that includes the design checklist and all all the various um sections of the vested code. Many sections of the code were not impacted by the proposed major amendment. Um the staff report is organized in order of code sections and you'll see some are just outlined as being not applicable as the proposed amendment does not impact those code sections. Um the presentation will just focus on the key changes and the compliance of the application with those key changes. So the proposed changes um the first one is with the phasing. It used to just be phase one and phase two with the original application. It has now been split up with phase one being split into phase 1 A and phase 1B. Phase two the elementary school remains. Um what's so phasing is the first part that is under review tonight um within the development commission scope. The second part is the building design for phase 1A. So, um the changes of that include entry revisions. So, a canopy has been added to the entry and it's been shifted a bit. Um the loading dock and trash enclosure area has been relocated on the site. It um used to be on the west on the east side and now it is on the west. Um there's a additional outdoor classroom space and then revisions of the facade um including window and roof heights. Uh when it comes to the site, the revisions that are proposed with the amendment are the parking at the entryway. Um the orientation has been changed. One additional tree is being removed. And then there are some landscape changes to accommodate the phasing. So the landscape changes for instance with the loading dock and trash enclosure moving. There's new landscaping around those and fences and walls to meet the review criteria. And then there's also modifications to some plantings um materials on site like talk the fence and walls due to moving site elements um as well as storm and utilities and these are all to accommodate the design and programming changes of the building. So looking at the phasing um phase one from the original prop approved plan like I said is now proposed as phase 1 A and phase 1 B. Phase 1 A is in the green on your screen. 1B is the yellow and phase two is the red. Phase 1 A includes the all the street improvements, the circulation except for the access road back to the elementary school. It includes landscaping such as all the street trees that are required along the roads um and the landscaping around the parking garage for instance. Um it includes building of the west wing of the high school, the track and field and bleachers and a portion of the parking garage. You can see the southern portion is highlighted in green for phase 1 A. Phase 1B will complete all the original phase 1 work which includes the east wing of the high school, the remainder of the parking, baseball and softball fields and all their associated walls. It will complete the stadium and the grand stands and the remaining site improvements. There's no change to phase two which is the elementary school. And then um of note is that each phase must meet all code requirements. So we're not just assessing the end of phase 1B or the end of what was phase one that it meets code that where phase 1 A stops must also meet all code requirements. So one of the changes that I talked about was the parking. Um so highlighted here uh the top circle is where parking changed from angled to parallel near the school entry. Um the parking structure like we just saw on that schematic is now split between two phases. Um the original approved one of the original approved AAS's um it's AAS 21002 allows for shared parking for the stadium and the school. Um so what was done is it essentially was assessed how much parking would be required for the stadium and how much parking would be required for the school and whichever was more is the number that was used for required parking for the site. that same as and that same uh method is applied to the phasing. Um so what's required for car parking is 178 spaces and what's proposed far exceeds it with 341. 89 of those were required to be in structure and 173 are proposed to be in the structure. Um for bicycle parking nine spots are required for phase 1 A and 24 are proposed. Um so for the landscaping changes so all landscaping must adhere to all code requirements at the end of phase 1 A. Um so this is assessing to make sure where the construction stops at phase 1 A everything is met. Um some changes include uh parking area landscaping. You know since only half the parking structure is being built at phase 1 A making sure that all that perimeter landscaping is going to be there. Um the rooftop architectural element. Um it's a certain square footage that had to be met. So with only half the parking structure being built, um more architectural element needed to be built. So that phase 1A complied with the required square footage of architectural treatment on the rooftop. Um so architectural element was added on the southernmost portion of the screen. You can see that in the blue crosshatch. Um and then fencing and walls like I mentioned earlier because of some of the moving of the pro programmatic elements um especially the trash enclosure and loading dock. um some the landscaping had to be assessed to make sure they were properly screened um to make sure that all the plantings were in place and the walls and fences that were proposed because of these changed programmatic elements met the code. Um and then one additional tree is being removed. Um the tree retention still complies and uh even with the one removal there's no change in the percent that's retained from the original approval. All right. So, building design um the building design for phase 1 A was uh reviewed against the design criteria checklist and all changes comply with the design criteria checklist that's included as an exhibit to the staff report. Um going through what those major changes are, facade changes, um the entry revision to the north building um to add entry doors and a metal canopy. Uh the canopy and fencing on the south side for the new outdoor classroom space. Um that's and then the window locations and roof heights changed um due to the interior programmatic changes. They had to move around some windows. And then you can see some color changes, but it still maintains the earth tones and maintains compliance um with the design criteria. And the last one is the mechanical equipment. Um the location change at the high school um it's required to meet all of the waste enclosure and screening requirements. So, it meets those setbacks, design, screening. Um, it has a masonary wall and ornamental fencing and a black vinyl chain link gate. And then the last kind of group of changes is the site design. Um, so what you're seeing on your screen with a schematic is the phase 1A storm water plan. Um, everything circled in red is a storm water detention facility. So the original approval had storm water vaults and detention ponds in seven locations. The proposed phase 1A has a combination of seven structures still. Um it just includes one vault and six detention ponds. Um future phases proposed to convert several of the detention ponds into vaults. Um all storm water facilities must fully must be fully constructed and operational in accordance with the approved plans at the time of each phases completion. Um and as proposed that will be met um and is of course also reviewed further with construction permitting. All frontage improvements and internal circulation except for the elementary school access road will be constructed as part of phase 1 A. Is there any questions? >> Richard. Um, first I wonder how does the change in the phasing affect the overall project time frame? Do we know? >> I will let the applicant speak to that during their presentation, but the timing of the phasing is not a criteria that is evaluated against. >> Okay. So land use condition 42 says that financial security is required in lie of providing the financial security school district shall provide a letter of commitment identifying the scope of work to be completed and the time frame for completion. Is that correct? >> Correct. >> Okay. Thanks. And I was curious about how many vaults will we have by the end of phase one including 1 A and 1B. Um, looks like 1A will only have one vault. Is that right? And at the end of first phase, how many underground vaults will we have and how many detention ponds? >> Um, our city engineer is online and I will let her answer the engineer related questions. Uh, she'll provide far more accuracy than I would. Um, Elaine, are you able to answer that question? Um, so I I guess you can repeat the question. You're asking how many balls are going to be after phase one. >> Correct. >> Correct. Both both the uh subphases A and B. >> So for phase one, the vault will be underneath the the baseball field. I mean underneath the football fields. And then for phase B, um the ponds by that that are out by the baseball fields will be converted to underground vaults when the baseball fields are built. Okay. So, will that be five at that point? >> Five. >> There'll be two vaults and then there's uh I think four or five ponds that are around the perimeter of the property. >> Okay. Okay. And uh the staff report refers to the clearing and grading beyond phase one and subsequent phase 1B area is necessary to serve the project due to site improvements such as storm water and utilities. Can you speak to which necessary site improvements such as storm water and utilities will be required in the elementary school area in phase 1 A? In other words, in phase 1 A, which of those improvements that will occur in the elementary school area are actually required for phase 1 A. >> I'm going to defer to to uh Todd, who is the design engineer, to answer some of these questions um about the specifics of what the design entails. Should we save some of these till after the >> application? Save that for the applicant. Thank you. >> Some of the more specific engineering ones the applicant can get into the technical details. >> Yeah. And I do have more but I'm going to delay those chair in the interest of time if I am able to recall staff during deliberation. >> Thank you. >> Y thank you. Now we'll proceed with the applicants. >> I'm sorry. >> Oh, sorry. Go ahead, Mel. >> It's okay. Um question on um condition 11. I think it was had a requirement that if complete applications for future phases hadn't been filed by the time the high school building receives its temporary certificate of occupancy, no further extensions would be granted. So now we have two high schools. Is there a decision as to does it mean would that mean that both phases of the high school are built or just phase 1A? >> Can you repeat the wording of the condition again? Which one you referring to? >> It says condition 11, if complete applications for construction permits for future phases have not been filed by the time the high school building receives its temporary certificate of occupancy, no further extensions shall be granted. So does that mean >> so the building permit for the next phase needs to be submitted prior to TCO for the first phase. >> Yes. >> And does that mean TCO for phase 1 A or >> correct for phase 1 A? >> So just the first Okay. >> Correct. Sorry, I'm trying to read it, see it in my mind. But yes, for phase 1A, the I believe the wording of the condition says for future phases. So now that it's split up, the first phase, the second phase would need to be submitted for by the first phase TCO. >> Okay, thank you. >> Could you describe the programming changes that that drove this the changes in building >> that one? And I will also let the applicant describe the motivation behind the changes. >> Okay. What the other just the follow on would be was it significant enough that the the need for the space wasn't required? So you did two phases or was that a constructability? I I'll wait for them. Thanks. >> Any other staff questions? >> All right. Now we'll proceed with the applicant's presentation. And before you begin, I'll need to swear you in. >> One second. Good evening. My name is Todd Sawin. I'm a civil engineer with AHBL re sorry um representing the applicant. >> Do you swear by oath or affirmation that the testimony you're about to provide is true? >> I do. >> Thank you. Please proceed. So, um, there's a lot of information in the record. Really thank staff and all of you for being here tonight to talk about our project. Um, we've been on a long process to get here. I think Emily did a really good job of explaining, you know, the work to get up to the 2022 approval and then what we've been doing to get to here. So, I'm not going to cover all the details of stuff. I'm happy to answer questions and things when we get to the end. There's some key pieces I want to talk about. a couple of the questions you you've brought up already. So, um I'm I'm gonna kind of try to keep my part brief and so we can have as much time for public comment as possible, but again, I'm happy to answer questions. Um okay, so the original amendment Emily mentioned that we're so we have a whole bunch of conditions on this project and you guys have been referencing them kind of in discussions already. So, we're not changing any of those. So the idea that we need to submit the next phase of building permit before we get TCO, the school district totally understands that idea. Um and if we don't do that, we have to come back through the land use process. So that piece we we totally understand the um economics of the project. Obviously the school district's a public public agency. You know them being able to do projects is based on funding. So, they have funds to do phase 1A. Right now, they're going to acquire funds for the future phases. Um, Martin can talk later if you guys have specific questions about that process, but um it's a little bit unknown on our side just based on the way funding and bonding and all that stuff works. Um, so Emily mentioned that the phase 1A portion of the site, we meet the code requirements. So that's the code requirements for the landscaping, the storm water. So the storm water system we're proposing meets the department of ecology storm water manual as currently adopted by the city of Isiqua. That is the one thing that we took to the new code. Well, there's a couple things we've taken to new code. So for life safety purposes, we took we using the current um building code. So we're vested to the 2015 code. decided that what made more sense was to use current codes. So, um, same thing with storm water. There's no reason for us to not come to the new manual. So, what you're seeing is meeting the current storm water code for for those two pieces. From a land use perspective, we're still vested to the old city code. So, there's a few nuances in that. Um, as part of those improvements, we're proposing to do all the frontage improvements. So, there's work to 228th and 43rd. We've submitted permits for both of those. We're in process of getting those permits as part of this construction. We're proposing to do all the buffering requirements that are in there. So the we'll get to a couple of slides from now, but there the site plan that showed the phasing. Um there's a lot of white areas around the outside. Those are all the existing trees. We're not touching them. So we didn't want to depict that we were doing work in those areas, but that that is part of phase 1A that we're maintaining those buffers and all those pieces. Um, okay. So, the first thing I wanted to talk about was the trees. So, um, and this is an image out of the public comments just because it seemed like that was the the best way to talk about this. Um, so in two dimensions, you look at our site plan and it seems like, hey, why don't you just save the trees that are in the elementary school area, save the trees that are in the future baseball fields and and all those pieces. And I can believe believe me when we got this I had the same thought in two dimensions it makes complete sense. The problem is our site's not flat. So we have about 70 ft of elevation difference between 228th and the top of the hill that we need to make up. And then school site um programming has a lot of really flat surfaces. So baseball fields you can't build monos slope they're flat. Football field tracks all those pieces right. So we start taking those things into consideration and we need to move the dirt. We need to put the dirt somewhere. And our proposal from the beginning has been we're going to keep as much of the dirt as possible on this site. So if we don't cut down the trees as part of this phase, we need to haul off 150,000 yards of dirt. It's a really big number. It's really hard to comprehend. So I'm going to break that down just a little bit. So if we So that's 7,500 trucks and trailers coming in and out of the site to be able to do that. So 7,500 trucks leaving the site. So if we assume a truck leaves the site every 10 10 trips an hour, so which is really fast for them loading, but to make the math easy, that's what I used. Um, it would take us 18 weeks of truck traffic down 228th, down 43rd to wherever we're taking that dirt. And then there is the off-site issues of, you know, where do we actually put it? How do we get rid of it? Um, all those things. So, from an environmental standpoint, it makes more sense to cut the trees down that were a that were in the original approval, move that dirt on site. The other half of that is if we haul off all that dirt in phase one A, in phase 1B when we build the football field and in phase two when we build the elementary school, we need to haul in the same amount of dirt. So we're from an environmental standpoint, it makes more sense to do the earth work on our site and that's why we proposed removing the trees as part of this phase 1A. to illustrate that a little bit. So this is a cut and fill map of our site. So the blue areas are where we're filling. So kind of what you would expect kind of the football field or not the football the elementary school and the outfield of the baseball field is where we're filling and we're cutting kind of from the center. So the site kind of slopes off has a little ridge that runs down it. So we're cutting kind of from that center portion to create these flat surfaces off to the side. Next thing I wanted to talk about was the phasing. So, um I think Emily did a really good job of covering the colors of it. The thing I wanted to point out is the the 228th improvements are definitely part of what we're doing at the beginning. All the sepha mitigation and things that we've proposed are happening at the beginning of the project. Um, there is some temporary ponds and things that are being constructed. And the only reason they're temporary, so we could go put the vaults and those pieces in right now, but until you put the final surfacing on, you're not able to adjust all those things to final grade. You're going to have to touch them again. So, from a cost standpoint, it doesn't make sense to put them underground and then have to touch them again and spend more money on them. In the documents, um, there's some unfortunate wording on my part. Um, I call them above ground ponds, and I think you'll see that in some of the public comments. Uh, they're not above ground. They're open air, so it's a regular storm pond like you would see anywhere else in the city. Um, but they're not above ground. It's just unfortunate on my part. Um, so, so they're sized to meet the detention requirements for our site. All the all the calculations and everything have been submitted to the city of Isiqua and we're working through the permit process with them. um to ultimately get permits to be able to do that. But we're in conformance. We're treating all the storm water leaving the site. Um all those pieces as part of it. Um the question about the the vaults themselves, like the number of vaults, so there's there's there's actually two vaults in phase one A. So there's there's a there's one right down by the entryway and there's one under the football field. And then you have the sixA there's there'll be three at the end of phase 1 A and B. So the one under the baseball field gets turned into a vault. All the ones on the elementary school stay where they were. The next thing I want to talk about was the floor area ratio. So my intent is not for you to read all the tiny little text I just put up here. So here's some images out of the original AAS that was approved to reduce our floor area. So as you can see from the map, the the whole site was counted as part of that calculation. So we had to come up with areas that were being used for different things as part of the school program, community uses, those pieces, the building area against that. You can see we don't get credit for things like the parking garage and other pieces. So there's a lot of this that is just not colored. So anything that's not color, we don't get credit for. And so basically, you're taking the building area, comparing it to that. The original approval had the phasing included in it. So we had the elementary school, all the program for the elementary school included in that calculation. So our proposed revision to this to add an additional phase doesn't change that underlying approval. I'm sure you're going to hear about that. I just wanted to mention that that's um that was previously phased and there's no change to that as part of this amendment. The final thing we wanted to talk about was the facade changes and I'm probably going to bring Kim up and I'm guessing you need to swear her in. >> Please state your name for the record. >> I'm Kim Young. I'm an architect with Betetti Architects. And do you swear by oath or affirmation that the testimony you were about to provide is true? >> I do. >> Thank you. >> Um so as um Emily talked about earlier, we do have some facade changes. Um the first thing to know is that both phase 1 A and phase 1B are within the previously approved footprint. So we're not expanding or contracting the building at all. It'll fit within the previous footprint. Also, we're not proposing any changes to materials. We are using the same materials. We're using the same patterning and proportions. The windows to materials are the same. The big change is that we have um you know, again, as Emily mentioned, we have programmatic changes on the interior of the building. So, windows have adjusted to work with those interior spaces. And in fact, we have more windows now because the west wing of the building was primarily athletic facilities. So the gymnasium, the auxiliary gymnasium, those spaces don't typically have a lot of windows. You don't want balls being thrown at a glass, but now we have learning spaces, so we were able to increase the windows. Um, how do I um so this was um this was the previous um version of the facade. Um, so we just wanted to share that with you and then show you the current um updated rendering. So you can see that the proportions and the patterns are very much the same as they were before. So the big changes that we've made are we did have to shift over the main entry. It's still on the north facade like it was previously, but it was part of what is going to now be phase 1B. So we had to move it over to phase 1 A. still has a lot of glazing at the entry and big canopy and that's um what you see in this facade. The other thing we did was um add on the south side of the building a canopy and a fenced in area for an outdoor kind of classroom workspace for students that come off of some shops and studio areas on the east side of the building. You didn't see that facade before of of this phase because that was an interior wall. That's now an exterior wall in the temporary situation until the next phase is built. And that um the commons and cafeteria are on the other side of that. So you'll see a lot of glazing there as well as another canopy so students can go out during lunchtime and have their lunch. Um eventually that'll become an interior wall and we'll just be a it's built like an exterior wall, but we'll be able to keep that in place. Um then as also was previously mentioned, we did move the loading dock over to the west side of the building and that's so it works with the new program on the interior. So it's connected to the kitchen to um uh custodial loading and receiving as well as other infrastructure spaces like mechanical and electrical rooms. And then finally the uh building height came down a little bit in parts because we didn't need the same volume for the learning spaces that we had with the gyms. So it came down a little bit. We do still have mechanical equipment as was mentioned with all the required screening, but we have less mechanical equipment on the roof now because we did build an internal mechanical mezzanine so we could put some of the equipment there and then we also have screening around the loading dock where we have other pieces of equipment. So those are all the major changes with the facade. I think with that we're ready to answer any questions you guys have. >> Richard, do you want to continue? >> Okay. Uh, I'll leave the other questions. I think you already answered them once I asked before. Regarding uh the sheets A1 and A2, part of them are marked revisions and part are marked revisions too. Can you explain the difference between that? >> The sheets on the exhibits. Um it was when they first submitted we had comments for revisions that they need to make to become code compliant. So when it says revision one that's their first resubmitt and then we had more comments for more revisions for them to make. So that was revision two. >> Okay. So revision two is the version that we are to the final version. Correct. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Any other commissioners? Mill. Um, are you able to show us the garbage enclosure, the new one versus the old one? And looking what we have in the package, it's kind of hard to see what that would how that what that looks like on the west side. >> Do you have an easier way to do it? >> Okay. Okay. I have all of our the thousands of pages of stuff we submitted. I just don't want everybody to sit here and watch me flip through it. Yeah. >> Which is what Emily's doing. And it would and looking at that what's on the screen now it would be on the right side. It would be >> it is I I guess one thing since you're bringing that up. So if you go back to this image you can see it on the right here. It looks really prominent because we've stripped away all the landscape features and everything. So so that is that area. When we go to that image at the end, you can see we put trees and everything around that area to to keep it from being visible. You want me to stop? >> And the reason for moving that from where >> the kitchen was previously on the other side of the floor plan, so it was in the phase 1B area. Obviously, we can't build a school without a kitchen. So, we need to find a new home for it. the way that the site laid out with kind of the center commons area, we it didn't make sense to have it on that and then having the loading dock as its own standalone thing right now didn't make any sense. So, moving it to the other side of the building just seemed like it was the right answer and works a lot better from actually bringing trucks in and turning them around and stuff >> and the trucks will come from behind to this from essentially from the south. >> That's a good comment. I just assume everybody's been staring at this as long as I have. So, um, yeah. So, from our site, you come up this access road and then where it turns blue here across. So, this will be bus and service. So, the buses turn around, park, and leave. So, that service area ends up being right here. Now, it was previously, you could see on this is an old site plan, but it was previously kind of this big turnaround thing. So, you can imagine a truck trying to back around this corner and down into that loading dock. I assume you guys can see my mouse. Okay. Um, so trying to back down that corner was going to be problematic. So, if we go to the phasing plan, the hatching doesn't help, but Basically, it's it's this area is the loading dock. So, the trucks will be able to turn around and just back straight into that area. So, a lot a lot simpler. >> Sorry. How did how do the trucks move in and out there? >> So, they're going to they're going to pull forward and back straight in. Then they'll have the option. We've run turning movements where they can just pull straight out this way or they can come out, make the same loop the buses make around this island at the top >> and then come back down the hill. So all that was plaza area before it's now essentially kind of blocked off with the loading dock. >> Correct. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I don't think we gave you one. >> I don't rendering of the enclosure. I only have a site plan. >> I think that answered my question. It's all fenced off. >> Yeah. >> Probably worth noting. Um, so the original approval, obviously we had the elementary school as as part of that approval. It had the loading dock right out front of the elementary school. So we've we've applied the same requirements that we used for that and the city's current code um for screening, but but that was part of the original approval. The loading dock for the elementary school, just for everybody's reference, is this area kind of right out in front of the elementary school. Thank you. Thank you, chair. Um, I see on the sheets, I think it's sheet C1 and probably others, there are portables in a new high school. I was wondering why. And do do they disappear after 1A? >> I would I would love to tell you that's not that's within our control. So, it turns out in the state of Washington, if you do a building that has public funding and you want any money from the state whatsoever, you have to show future portables. So, it's it's a state requirement to to get funding that we need to have a location for those portables. The the goal is obviously to have kids within the building and all those pieces, but you know, based on funding and things, I'm not telling you they'll never be there, but the goal is obvious to get kids within the building. >> Michael. >> Yeah. So um you talked about with the revised phasing for the project that you'll sat the that the each phase will satisfy the requirements landscaping requirements uh drainage requirements etc. So the question that's been rattled around in my brain here is if you build phase 1 A and then the project for whatever reason doesn't move forward as proposed here, what happens to those areas that have been disturbed with regard to the requirements for landscaping, uh planting of trees as part of the tree preservation requirements, etc. What's the plan? There's so there's a couple ways I could probably tell you this, but I'm going to tell you what kind of keeps me up at night about that. So, the the reality is we get temporary occupancy of the building. We, you know, we're ready to open the school, there's no funding for the next phase, then we lose our land use approval, right? Based on that condition 11 that you were mentioning. Um and we will be back in front of you with a new proposal to do something you've probably already reviewed um within the phase 1B area. And it just unfortunately the way the conditions are written and not having the city not having a master site plan approval process that that spans large period of time. So historically master site plans are used for projects that take you know 20 years to build and unfortunately with the changes to the code that doesn't exist. So um we're kind of stuck with what's there. So those those areas would remain disturbed until the school district came in with a new application to go back through land use um get approvals and build out the rest of their project. >> So maybe another kind of follow-up question. So part of the elementary school, there's condition back to condition 11 that Commissioner Morgan referenced. There's a requirement for if the permits expire and that project doesn't move forward and the and the master site plan um expires, there's a condition that uh requires that the stockpile of fill is removed and restoration the site occurs. So that part of the project has a condition that says the district needs to come in and do something to um modify the site to for a longer term condition. We don't have that condition as I can see on the current permits. Um but what you're saying is that it would stay in its current form after phase 1A until a future project moves forward. Um, okay. That that answers >> I guess maybe just a little bit of history on that condition and how the removal of stockpile became a thing. Um, we did propose putting like stockpiling material on that site and there will be stock piles like throughout construction. Like I'm sure you've all seen somebody dig up areas. We have to put the dirt somewhere while we build whatever it is and we back to it. Right. We're not proposing to stockpile dirt on the elementary school site long term. So like we took that as do not stockpile dirt on that site if you're not going to build it tomorrow because it would make no sense for us to put it in a truck, take it to the elementary school, dump it, and then 6 months from now pay a contractor to put it back in a truck and take it somewhere else. So our intent is the dirt that is above and beyond what we need gets exported from the site at that time. Um, and if you guys wanted to add some type of condition that said we can't stockpile in the phase 1B area, I don't think we would have any concerns with that. >> Thank you. Um, can I follow up on that? Um, if I understand this correctly, condition 11 would still apply and it says if the elementary school has not been built, the stockpile shall be removed, but we can ignore that because there won't be one. and the site restored and stabilized within 3 months based on a removal plan approved by the city. So, it would seem to me that that still applies that you would have to restore the site within 3 months. It wouldn't just sit waiting for another proposal. >> Yeah. So, we I guess the the way we've interpreted that and I think it was the way it was intended based on a lot of conversations before we got to that condition. Um the the idea would be restore to like subgrade conditions. So there'd still be a building pad there and then we would plant that area. So we've talked about hydro seeding um and and those pieces to make sure we don't have erosion and other problems with that area, but not I guess the res the restore it's not like restore it to previous conditions. We're back talking and we're back talking about the amount of dirt we'd have to haul off there, right? that that was never the intent and that's not the way we understood it. >> Katie, I I just have a clarification question on the same topic. Um, you mentioned there'll be no stockpiling on the say the elementary school site and I I would guess that is that apply the fields the baseball fields too. My my my question is but does that >> and maybe I just don't know the lingo but you're going to regrade the site, right? So are what is what's the difference between the changing the grading and that building pad and a stockpile? >> Yeah, that's great clarification. So when I say no stockpiling, I mean we're going to build it to subgrade. So we're going to bring the elevation up to what the future elevations need to be to build on that site. So the stockpiling would be us actually like creating a mound of dirt covering with plastic or hydro seating or whatever and you end up with you know little mountain of dirt on that site. That is not proposed. Does that clarify? >> The regrading would still happen to get to that subgrade elevation. Correct. And as I mentioned before we need to do that to avoid hauling a whole bunch of material and causing more traffic than I want to be a part of. John, >> going back to um Commissioner Brennan's comment or worst case scenario of 1A 1B not following up. Um is the intent if you have TCO to actually get an occup occupancy permit and occupy the high school if if 1B doesn't follow on? >> Yeah. I mean, the reality is for the school district, you're going to put the amount of effort it's going to take to get there. You're going to move into that school and you're going to go back through the process if if we can't get, you know, the next building permit because it's it's a little more complicated than that. So, we need to submit for the building permit and then building permits are only good for a certain amount of time, right? So, there's got to be some fairly good idea that we're going to move into that next phase. And then kind of pivoting a little bit back to my question on on the programming was I guess it sounds like the programming changed significantly enough to cause this phasing to occur and could you describe it a bit? >> Yeah, so there was a that wing, there was gym, there was locker rooms, um there was some classroom above it, but but it was really those athletic uses that were there. If you're going to build part of a high school, probably doesn't make sense to build the gym and a locker room. Um so so those were moved to the they're going to be moved to the other wing. Um so basically we flipped the building when we did that. You know still needing to have the kitchen all those pieces there necessitated moving the loading dock closer to the kitchen because that's really you know most your deliveries and things that's where they're going. Um so having that tied together made a lot more sense. >> So it wasn't an a projected enrollment issue then. Thanks. >> Any other commissioner questions? >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Now we'll move into the public comment portion of the hearing. Miss Jackson, has anyone signed up to comment on this topic? >> Yes, chair. They have. >> All right. Those in who are in person and signed up in advance to make comments will be called on first. If you are in the room and did not sign up, I will ask for other speakers for closing this portion of the meeting. If you are joining us by computer or smartphone and would like to make a comment, please raise your virtual hand. This varies by device. 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As a reminder, comment should be focused on the proposed amendments before the commission only. Miss Jackson, please call our first speaker, >> Tim Brown. One general comment. >> I'm sorry. I want to get one general comment first. We keep talking about phase 1 A and 1B. They're only talking about 1A here tonight. The chance of 1B happening to me is improbable. What encompassed 1 A and 1B was what the two bond issues that failed. The last one didn't even get 50% of the vote. There's strong resistance in the iso community to spend all the money on this school. I again I remind you to see see yourself doing 1A 1B when they talk about being temporary. Temporary could be forever. Uh I have a different understanding in some respects. I guess my time is up. Uh I thought that uh I just would point out that uh >> your your time is not up. I beg your pardon. >> Your time's not up. They'll they'll fix the clock. >> They'll fix it. >> What? >> Your time is not up. They will fix the clock. >> Oh, okay. Okay. I wonder how I lost a minute and a half. Yeah. Uh I think the ISD talks about installing temporary above ground detention ponds uh and later constructing full storm water compliance as they say that comply with professional standards. These do not fully comply with professional standards. Uh the one the original plan was have major underground vaulting underneath the stadium with two small ponds. We've now flipped it and we've got something where we're going to have major uh above ground water. Then I'll point out that they did this ISD have a geothermal injury report in 61721 prepared by associate earth sciences. I quote due to the lack of on-site receptor style on-site storm water filtration is not recommended not is put in caps by them. uh the reissued SEPA sea of the MDNS September 9th 2021 I quote again note that on-site soil are not suitable for infiltration uh the other question when you actually look at that property it's on the top of a hill drainage both sides this is not the city of Seamish but the bulk of the at least 40% of the rainwater is going to go into Seamish is a very steep hill right off of 228th is basically a road cut of the top of a ridge. The water goes directly into Laughing Jacobs Creek and in Seamish. Seamish has not been contacted by SSD. They talked about how important it is because they're talking about major major changes in the roadway, but they're not propo including that in this proposal. Uh there's a I have people I know have spoke to members of the city council of of Seamish and they are a gasast at this thought. Uh uh the city also again the city of Isiqua's code they say it complies with >> your time is up now. Do you have one last thought? >> I have one last said all storm water retention treatment must be provided above in below ground vaults. That's isqua co. Thank you. >> Um, our countdown clock isn't working, so we will just give you a two minutes left, one minute left warning. >> Dave Osmer. Good evening, members of the commission. My name is Dave Osmer. I reside in Providence Point. Uh I clearly understand that safety is a significant concern of the school district. However, this high school, if built as planned, would be would have only one uh single open exit. That would be the only one in the district that has it that way in case of an emergency, a potential safety nightmare. The staff report for this project in section 4 approved land use permit. The fourth paragraph states that this amendment includes quote minor improvements to provide emergencyonly access at Providence Heights Loop. There is just one problem with this statement that has not been addressed anywhere in this amendment or in the original application. I call your attention to cont condition number 79 in the document sea land use conditions matrix which states the design includes an emergency access off of 228 over an existing private road that is separate from the main access but provides full access through the site via internal driveways and fire lane. The entrance from the private road into the site will be secured with a gate with emergency responders having keyed access through the emergency access gate. If acceptable, and I continue to quote, if acceptable to others having rights to use the private road, the entrance to that private road off 2028 or 228th will be secured with by a gate with locked key access available to emergency responders and others having rights to use the private road. The issue is that the plan all of the plan sites we've reviewed for this project show that Providence Point property line runs down the middle of this private road. Years ago, there was an easement on this road allowing for both neighbor prop both neighboring property owners to use it. However, ISD claims that such an easement has been vacated and our searches of county property records reveal no evidence that it still exists, thus precluding its use by ISD without permission from Providence Point. To date, no one from ISD or the city of Isiqua has contacted Providence Point leadership to resolve this matter, nor has leadership given ISD permission to use what we believe is Provenence Point's half of the road. Additionally, ISD has not provided any survey proving otherwise. Therefore, it is not appropriate for this commission to act on this uh amendment >> three minutes >> without until that uh this issue has been satisfactorily resolved. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> J Sternoff. My name is Jace Turnoff and I also reside in Providence Point adjacent to the Providence Heights property. As you all are aware, uh at the end of uh the uh first approval in 2022, there were approximately 58 conditions on the property. Since then, as of June of this year, it's now 82, which a lot of you have been referencing tonight. Uh and it keeps getting added every time uh we review it. the the February 16 22 uh staff report for the project uh land use examines the in isqua municipal code title 16 and 18. They were vested at the time of the land use application to which the major amendment must legally adhere. The land use elements regulated under the code included project clearing, grading, storm water management and roadway improvements. According to the ITPA uh municipal code 1626 and 1810, the applicant must obtain initial site work permits for both on-site and off-site improvements within the jurisdictions of the city of Isiqua and the cities of Seamish. Both jurisdictions require detention facilities and flow control structures to detain and release storm waters at rates equal to or less than 50% of the 2-year peak flow. At last check, the city of Seamish checking with the city council as well as her plan planning department, there has been no communication by the city of Isiqua or the Isiqua school district with the city of Seamish in reference to this. The storm water the first requirement is to install underground uh groundwater storage. Uh they are adding uh more open open uh >> two minutes. >> Thank you. Two remaining or you're at 2 minutes. >> Okay. >> You're at 2 minutes. 2 minutes and 13 seconds. >> Okay. So what I'd guess I'd like to move on to my conclusion. As I discussed previously about stormliner management and road improvements are both necessary and integral parts of the clearing and grading and must be completed simultaneously with the work. Clearing and grading without installing infrastructure is not allowed. The major amendment intends a separate clearing and grading from the required infrastructure completion. However, Isqua's code and land use conditions for the uh project do not uh permit this. The second uh dis part I would like to talk about is the uh vesting and uh the vesting uh goes back to the 22 uh approval as well as the vesting uh how this committee deals with >> three minutes sir. >> Pardon >> you have there you are at three minutes and 14 seconds. >> Okay. In conclusion, what I'd like to say be because of the vesting also deals with uh the uh I'm trying to condense this because the vesting deals specifically with uh how the city of Isiqua deals with the appeals. As you recall, in 2022, it was considered a level five. And on July 1st of this year, it was changed to a level four, which is only the development commission and doesn't go to this city council. Coincidentally, when it changed on July 1st, that was the day that the amendment was uh to the master site plan was proposed. And what I'm trying to ask you to uh consider also is that not only you recommend this, but you review this with the city council since that's was vested back in 2022. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Rick Arbor virtual. >> Uh yes, I'm here. Can you hear me? >> Yes, we can hear you. You can begin. >> Okay. I guess I'm not on the the video part of this, but uh um so um I'm Richard Amber. I represent the Providence Point um umbrella board uh with regard to this matter. We've um provided uh the development commission with a letter dated August 21 uh which is very detailed and addresses the issues that are involved here. I won't go through that letter again in detail because I know development commission members have have read it. But I will um highlight several issues that have um been developed tonight. Number one, this the storm drainage plan is different than what was originally proposed. It it calls for open um open areas for storm detention. many of those storm detention areas uh will flow into Providence Point and th this is entirely new storm drainage system that hasn't been u analyzed and and discussed before. Um there needs to be a complete plan for drainage because all the water in these ponds will tend to flow out because it will not infiltrate uh into the ground. So that is a major defect with this um project. Um secondly, the um the 1A um 1B distinction um does not recognize two fundamental facts. Number one, there is no funding for phase 1B at all. As as identified, the the funding for that project was rejected by the voters. Secondly, and as indicated in my letter, there is no basis in the city of the Isiqua capital facilities plan for phase 1B because there is not the enrollment projections to support. Uh the development commission needs to look at this project as one that will only include phase 1B. >> You have one minute. Phase 1B will not be happening and cannot be indicated as a um as a future project. Um and I've indicated the importance that the city has over in its planning for the retention of forests areas trees in the community. It is a very important issue to the city and yet the Isakqua school district uh setting in my opinion a bad example for its students uh intends to mow down trees as a place to um place soil. That's that's not an appropriate thing to do. There's other ways to deal with the soils that are there. um if indeed there is going to be a phase 1B uh which which seems to me to be entirely unwritten. So um I have my letter in front of you um and um if you have questions for me I'm happy to answer them. I think I'm right about >> Yes sir you are. Thank you. Marne Maldono. Telephone number 4252203389. First name Marne. I do have you unmuted. Thank you. Good evening, development commissioners. Thank you for the opportunity to speak this evening. I'm Marne Moralda. I serve as an elected school director for the past 16 years and I'm currently the Isiqua school board president. I'm here to express our support for the proposed amendment in to the previously approved land use permit for the new high school. I truly appreciate the time and diligence that this commission takes to protect our community while at the same time planning for growth. In 2015, 10 years ago, the Isiqua School District held a bond committee made up of staff, community members, parents, and students. Based on the enroll enrollment at the time and growth determined by the continued development within the Isiqua school district boundaries, it was determined that a fourth comprehensive high school would be needed. Our board is focusing focusing on providing a world-class education for our students to prepare them to thrive throughout their life. We feel that each student should be known by name, strength, and need, and our overcrowded schools create barriers for our students to achieve their full potential. Nearly a decade of illegal battles delayed this project to the point that the entire phase 1 project could not be completed. But the number of high school students to today is significantly more than in 2015 when we first determined the need. Even future predicted declines do not expect the loss of high school students to levels lower than at that time. And as the development commission knows, land has been reszoned for residential units throughout the city, meaning that with more affordable options, more families will be moving into the Isakqua School District. Further delays on this project does not remove the need. It only increases the cost. In exhibit one, our letter affirms that our position remains consistent and clear. This project was funded by voters, has undergone multiple legal reviews, and has been vetted several times by committees and councils. In exhibit two, our new high school project timeline shows more than a decade of work. As event uh as as evident in the timeline, our district has repeatedly met with all parties without hesitation in good faith to discuss issues and accommodate concerns. In exhibit three, a proposed 2020 agreement was negotiated leadership >> of our former superintendent with select members of the Providence point and I was part of those discussions. Unfortunately, the PPUA leadership never signed the agreement, but it demonstrated how far the district was willing to address their concerns, including buffers, enhancing landscape, athletic fields, lighting, noise, traffic, construction, hour limitations, and more. In exhibit 4, our team continued working with city officials and select Proven Point community members to develop a comprehensive list of accommodations at an estimate of cost of nearly $16 million. While not necessarily required by code, we provided these voluntary investments in an effort to be a good neighbor. For more than a decade, this project has been shaped by adult disagreements. Some opponents have indicated they will try to link this project to dissuade the community to vote for upcoming levies, even though the levies are unrelated to funding construction of the new high school. Meanwhile, students continue to attend overcrowded high schools and future students will inherent the consequences if we continue to delay. >> You are at the 3inut payers more. I urge the commission to approve the amendment as presented. >> Thank you. >> Carol Smith. >> Good evening. I'm Carol Schmidt, high school history teacher, Belleview High, and Providence Point resident. Thank you for giving me this opportunity. Many in the Providence Point community have written and spoken to this commission, the city council, the Isqua School District about the impact the school would have on our community, the environment, and traffic. It hasn't seemed to matter. We have had little recourse other than our vote. I'm convinced we made a difference in the results of the recent bond and levy defeats. It hurts me to say that because I am a teacher. I understand overcrowding. One of my classes has 37 kids in a room that comfortably seats 32. And as have I said before, Belleview High was built on the top of a hill with two major entrances, two minor entrances, and yet an hour after school gets out, I still can't get out of the parking lot because the parents are backed up all the way to Belleview Way. It won't be any different here. The current plan for high school number four is only one major entrance. I am primarily here today because in the five years of my residency in Isiqua and taking part in this discussion on the school, I haven't seen a good survey study as to where these kids are. Shouldn't this guide the construction of the new school? Are they in Newcastle? Because they're busy trying to get into Newport High. Are they in May Valley, the Highlands, or off of Fall City Road? They're not in my neighborhood. Any students from these areas would just add to the traffic issues that they have to travel to the Providence Point location. There are very few students in our immediate area. And I want to refute what one recent candidate for office said to our community. She told us that a neighborhood schools are great for property values. We are a 55 and over community. Our property values will not go up because the school is in our neighborhood. We don't sell our homes to young families. Who will I sell my unit to when it looks at a black top or a big mountain of dirt uh instead of the sound of frogs and trees? Now, you can continue to ignore our entire community of voters and still approve this revision. I can't remain >> the school district can begin building this school and then at some point in the future, it's going to need money for this 1B. How do you expect us to vote? Please set up a commission to study where the kids are. What was once a cheap acquisition of land has to be costing everyone a lot more time and tax dollars. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Erica Stevens. Hi, my name is Erica Stevens. Uh, I guess I don't have to tell you why we're here. In 2016, 71.4% of voters approved a bond measure to, among other things, build a fourth comprehensive high school. Following the identification, acquisition and acquisition of suitable site, the district spent years in a legal battle over this site. During that time, costs increase, as costs tend to do, and with years of delays, the original estimates and original funds earmarked for this project are not sufficient. Had the building opened in 2023 as planned, we wouldn't be here tonight because it'd be open. Yet, here we are. For context, I have served on Isiqua School District's bond advisory committee in 2011, again in 2015 for the 2016 bond and levy advisory committees in 2021 and 2025. I am currently serving on the capital projects oversight committee. I have two children, one graduated from Isiqua High School in 2024, a year after the new high school should have opened, and one is a sophomore at Isakiqua. Who knows if she would have been at IHS or the new school as our family is nearly equidistant from Isiziqua High School skyline and the new site. Isiziqua was built wasn't built for 2500 students. In fact, in 2016 when the bond passed, IHS had only 2,200 students. It has increased by 14% in that time. Some might question why build a new high school if you can't build a full comprehensive high school. Tell that to my daughter who's been on crutches for the last 6 weeks and has to go out to the portables in the rain. If you're not familiar with Isiqua High School, the portables are on the other side of the sports fields. These classrooms are on the edge of campus just past the trail head to Poo Poo Point. >> You have one minute. >> Approximately 650 ft, the length of two football fields from the main building. Tell that to kids who eat lunch in their cars rather than sitting on the floor in the lunchroom because there's not enough room in the commons. That was my son. Tell that to kids who are trying to navigate crowded halls and get to class on time. My daughter has to be excused early from Spanish just so that she can get from the portables back to the main building to her next class on time. In the same way that the city of Isiziqua wants to be a good steward of taxpayer money, ISD has the same obligation. and it's one the district takes seriously. This is part of the reason for establishing the capital projects oversight committee. It provides another set of eyes on these projects and the spending. We, the school district, the city of Isiqua, and the broader community have been talking about this project with this piece of land for at least eight years. There's not another parcel of suitable land within the urban growth area. Please keep in mind that your actions, your decisions affect more than just the city of Isiqua. They affect everyone who lives in the Isiqua school district. >> Three minutes. >> After eight years of discussion, applications, studies, etc. I urge you to approve the amendment to the existing permit. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Rory Crest. Good evening. My name is Roy Crest. I live at 18712 Southeast 44th Street, Isiqua. My relationship to the city is as a property owner and resident. Uh I was raised in the Isiqua community and attended Isiqua Schools and graduated from Isqua High School in 1974. My my wife and I bought our first home in Isiqua in 1984. We raised our family in Isiqua and our two children attended Isqua schools from kindergarten to graduating from Isqua High School. I now have a granddaughter who attends Sunset Elementary. I want to express my gratitude to the many residents of Isiqua who over the years have supported the Isqua school district. The greater Isiqua community and Isqua School District have been the reason why this is such a desirable place to live. People have always recognized that good schools are a key element to a good community. Everyone who lives here now benefits from the commitment of past residents, homeowners, and business owners. In recent years, there seems to be a group of individuals who appear opposed to anything related to school funding or improvement. And I find that frustrating, as I know many others. Also, the community approved the funding of a new high school and elementary school and has met roadblock after roadblock from an anti-school group. It's time to let the district move ahead and build the new school, even in its scaled down size because of all the delays caused by this anti-schools group. Those of us who have lived here for many years, even decades, want our Isquas community and schools to be as good for our current and future residents and students as it has been for us. >> Thank you, >> chair. That is all the people that have signed up both virtually and online. But there is someone online that has a comment that has not signed up. >> Okay. >> Right. Null. There we go. I think you can hear me now. >> Yes. >> Thank you. My name is Wright Null. I uh own a business that is for approximately 20 years uh in Isqua, Carson Null Law Firm. Uh I have five kids, all of which have gone through the Isqua School District. Um, and I think there's a couple things that are least important to me as as I think about this. One is um what what this hearing is about is whether it complies with the code. And I've just been completely impressed with what the school has done in looking at trying to limit the the damage um environmental impact uh looking at the number of trips that would have to be taken by trucks uh and minimizing the flow of traffic that's going to go by Providence Point in that process. So I I really think the school district deserves some credit for what it's done. Also, as I read those plans uh relating to water runoff, it seems to me that the water runoff has not changed. It's still going in the same place. And the um underground storage versus the above ground, not above ground, but the ponds has not changed the flow of water. Um and so that seems to be uh kind of a red herring in this. The other red herring I think that's important to recognize is that the vote that they're talking about that voted against the school that is that is not um a good read of that vote. The people that are now saying well the opposition to the last bond actively campaigned for a smaller high school and said that this the other high school the high school that was planned was too big that they would be for a smaller high school. And so a no vote very well could be and seems to have been a vote for this smaller high school. Uh and so it's a bit frustrating that campaign against the bond for a smaller high school than they have a smaller high school and they're saying the bond was something different than the voting was something different. So uh I appreciate what the school district has done. >> Thank you for the time and effort you guys have put in. Uh, and I'd encourage you to to approve the plan and let this move forward. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> We are done with virtual comments. Is there anyone else present who would like to speak? All right. Thank you. Does the applicant have any rebuttal to the comments? Thank you for the opportunity. I assume I'm still sworn in. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Um, so a lot of things from the neighbors and I'm going to bring the district up to talk about like the funding and enrollments and those pieces here in a second. Um, but I wanted to cover a couple other pieces. So, uh, it was mentioned that we're not infiltrating groundwater or infiltrating storm water. Um, and the geotech report says it's not going to infiltrate. It's never been our proposal. We're detaining storm water and releasing it with at the historic conditions. Okay. So, we're taking it back to for or back to forested conditions. That includes the portion of the site that was already developed. So, there used to be a church on the site. There's a huge parking lot up at the top of the hill. All that area goes back to forested conditions for our pond sizing. Um the next thing I want to talk about the um EVA access um and us needing to work through that process. So so the the easement was created in 1979. Um the property has underwent a number of changes. So actually the church at one time owned part of the Providence Point area like part of their subdivision. So that road was internal to them as they started selling pieces that changed. They had three different deeds throughout 1979 where they made changes to that. Turns out at that time we didn't have real great recordkeeping and so they relinquished part of and intended to bring them back and the title is not super clear. So what we believe is that the intent was to keep the 30-foot easement for both parties. So the school district has rights to that road. Providence Point has rights to that road. Um, we've submitted a memo. It's in the record from the original time this came up. Um, that that outlines that, but um, the city staff has agreed with us um, as part of the original permit application back in 2022. Um, the next part, the the clear and grade plans. There was a comment about the clear and grade plans needing to have you couldn't just do clearing grading without anything else. So, um, so we we did submit a clearing grade permit that included the storm water improvements. So, we've broken our project from if we get into the phasing portion. So, not trying to make this super complicated, but from a construction standpoint, we have phasing within that of we're going to have a site development permit. So, we have two site development permits. one that allows us to do the clearing, the grading, storm water improvements, get up to subgrade, and then we have a second permit which has all the surface features of asphalt, sidewalks, all those pieces. And we separated those apart so that five years ago, four years ago, we could get ahead of that process, pull permits, and start moving dirt. If we would have known how this was going to go, we probably would have combined those. But this point we have two permits and that's that's what we're moving forward with. Um our intent is to build storm water improvements as we're moving dirt. So we have two requirements for storm water on this site. We obviously have the the ultimate one you guys have seen plans for of you know we're building underground vaults. We're doing um temporary ponds. We're doing ponds on the elementary school site. The um the second part of that is erosion control. So as you move dirt, we have the chance of sediment getting into storm water, you know, running off site. So we'll have temporary sediment ponds, baker tanks, pumps, all those things to collect the storm water, treat it prior to discharge during construction, and then as soon as areas are brought to grade, we'll build the actual final storm water facility. Um, so it's two different requirements on that specific issue that's part of the stormwater code. I just wanted to mention that we are meeting both of them. The final piece was the storm water discharge. So, while we have temporary ponds, um they're in the location of the final facilities. So, there isn't a big bait and switch of we had one thing and we're going to something else. In the original approval, we had a big detention system under the baseball field. We have a pond under the baseball field. We had multiple facilities under the elementary school. We still have those facilities. We had a large facility under the football field. Still have that facility. Um the other thing that should be noted is we're building the discharge from those ultimate systems as part of phase 1A. So all the pipes under the road and things, those temporary ponds are still discharging to the ultimate location. So we're we're still matching the basins of the water that goes to Laughing Jacob's Creek. Still going to Laughing Jacob's Creek. The water that goes out to 43rd still goes out to 43rd. They're in the existing condition. There's some water that naturally went to Providence Point. Based on discussions the first time around their downstream and the 43rd downstream come back together within a quarter mile. They're considered one basin and it was determined that it was better to take the water down 43rd and around Providence Point instead of through their site based on the number of comments we got. So we are still proposing to do that. So the air the water from the elementary school that was proposed to go down 43rd in the original approval that's still happening. So we have a very deep pipe that runs all the way out to 43rd and then down 43rd as part of our proposal. I think you have to talk before they can ask me questions. So >> I'm going to turn it over to Martin with the school district. >> Okay. I'm just not familiar. Do I need to? >> Yeah. >> Please state your name for the record. >> Yep. My name is Martin Turney. I'm a chief of finance and operations for the school district. >> Do you swear by oath or affirmation that the testimony you're about to provide is true? >> I do. >> Proceed. >> Thank you. So, a couple things that came up. I wanted to start with um funding since that's um often a topic uh that's of importance. I I want to point out first too that this community voted twice. once in 2016 and then in 2022 to provide the needed funding for this high school. Um, and due to the length of time it's taken to get this done over time, obviously escalating costs have been tremendous. So, we have been trying to keep, you know, keep up with those escalating costs. It's really become an obstacle for us obviously. Uh, and that plays into the phasing, right? So, we have students, we know where they are. They are at Skyline and they're at Isqua High School and those buildings are over capacity by quite a bit. Uh our goal is not to have just enough so that we can bring kids in from portables. It's to make sure that we have enough capacity to do not just uh what we uh have typically done but have innovative spaces and be able to move into the future with adequate uh programming. So, um, you know, financially, we want to go forward and get this phase done so we can begin to have, um, momentum toward a a larger high school out there. Um, and we know that even if we're going to see some softening in high school enrollment in the near future, we know that growth uh is on the horizon um, a little further out. And in the meantime, as was pointed out by uh director Moraldo, um those numbers are not projected to go down to a to a level um that would mean that we would have adequate capacity for how we want to serve our students. So, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Does staff have any rebuttal to the comments? Um, not specific rebuttal to the comments, but just in general reminder about what we are focused on here tonight. Um, a lot of comments that we've heard and discussions that we've had have veered into many different topics, but tonight we are here to decide on if the amendment complies with code, and if the proposed amendments should be approved. So those amendments are splitting phase one into phase 1 A and B, the revisions to the building which is phase 1 A, the facade, entry, loading, dock, trash, enclosure, relocation, and the associated site changes like parking, landscaping, site infrastructure. That is the focus of what the approval or um conditional approval or denial is on tonight is the requested amendments. Thank you. Commissioners, are there any objections to closing the public hearing? Hearing no objections, I now close the public hearing at 8:10 p.m. It's now time to move into the deliberation portion of the meeting. But first, we need to make a motion. Is there a motion on the item before the commission? Michael. >> Thank you, chair. I move the development commission approve the major amendments to the site development permit and master site plan known as Isizakquai school number four and elementary school number 17 MPa25-00003 as described and evaluated in the staff report dated November 4th, 2025 and exhibits 1 through13 subject to the conditions therein and as amended tonight. And I move that the development commission direct the community planning and development department to prepare findings of fact and conclusions for review and approval by the development commission chairwoman affirming the development commission's decision to approve the major amendment to the site development permit and master site plan known as Isizakqua High School number four and elementary school number 17 MSPA25-00003 as subject to to the conditions listed in the staff report dated November 4th, 2025 with exhibits 1 through 13 subject to conditions therein and as amended tonight. >> Second. >> Thank you. And now is there uh commission discussion or any amendments? Michael, >> I am still um kind of pondering the uh condition where a permit expiration occurs where we have um you know mass clearing and grading and um removal of significant trees on the site and condition under the master development per u plan to uh replace a significant number of those trees. If the permit expires in phase 1B and the elementary school don't proceed, how is the commit how is the is the condition remedied with respect to that permit condition meaning planting of the additional trees to offset those that were removed during the mass clearing. So, I'm still a bit um perplexed by how that occurs if we have an expiration of the permit without a condition that says some form of restoration needs to happen if the site's going to be um if mass clearing and grading happens at the beginning here in phase 1 A for the entire project. Okay. Just making sure there was anything you wanted to add. Um the planting is happening within phase 1 A of the trees. Was that the the >> right so >> central part of your question? >> Yes. So for phase 1 a all of the required replacement trees the 900 I believe 900 trees that were going to be planted as part of the offset for those significant trees that are being removed would be planted as part of one a >> yes >> from my memory of the landscape plan. Yes. Oh, yes. >> We'll we'll share the podium to answer. >> Yeah. So, the majority of the trees will be planted in phase 1A because because we're, you know, doing those areas around the outside. There's some trees within the elementary school site along their frontage that will not be built, but it's less than 5% of what we're proposed to to put back on that area. So, the majority of the trees will be planted in phase 1 A. >> Can we see the planting plan for 1A? >> Yes. Give me a second to pull it up if there's another question while I'm pulling that up. I >> just another Oh, go ahead if you want. >> I just had a clarification on that question. Um, but that would not return the elementary school and the baseball field sites to its original condition even if you included the subgraing stuff. You mentioned before that it would be you hydro seedated or something. >> Yeah. Or it'll be likely hydro seated um and stabilized from an erosion control standpoint. Um but yeah, not not replanting it with trees that we're going to have to get a permit to cut down to build the elementary school. >> So, another somewhat related question. So, the storm water um system that's being developed as part of phase 1A that that's I just want to affirm to confirm this that that will satisfy all of the the code requirements for um water quality detention um and discharge etc. And if it had to exist for years beyond what's anticipated here, um if this went ahead, as the school district hopes it does with phase one be proceeding, it would still satisfy those requirements. It's not a temporary condition. It's it would meet the permanent condition of of water quality and detention. >> Yeah, it that's 100% correct. There's nine minimum requirements for storm water that we need to meet as part of that manual. So, our proposal meets all nine. I'm not going to bore you with going through them all. Obviously, water quality and flow control are kind of the two big ones. Um and and so we're meeting both those ponds will function. The city's, I'm sure, going to require us to put um agreements in place to make sure they're being maintained and all those things and um inspected on a yearly basis and all the things you'd have with a permanent system. So, that will happen as part of the project. >> Yeah. Would you explain flow control and forest and condition? I want to make sure everybody understands that. >> Yeah. So, um, probably the easiest way to describe this is if you if you So, we have an allowed release rate. So, we if you had the amount of water that comes off a site um in a forested condition and then you took that and compared that to um a parking lot. Okay? you're going to have a lot more water running off from the parking lot condition because you don't have the ground taking soils, you don't have the trees taking up so up the water, all those pieces, right? So, the way the storm rider manual is set up and so we run a somewhat complicated model um that's called western Washington hydraulic model. And so, what we do is we say, okay, we're allowed to release at this rate, right? And so, for us, there's a whole bunch of different ways to get there, but for our site, we're going back to forested. So as soon as we disturb the parking lot that I was telling you was there, we're required to take it back to forested conditions. So we come up with a release rate from our site based on that and then we put build a bucket to take all the water that's coming that's above that, right? And we're metering out of that bucket. So if you take a garden hose out of a bucket and let the river run into it, that's kind of what we're doing. And then you size the bucket big enough to take your storm event. So, we're running up to, you know, a 100red-year storm event, holding it on site and releasing it at a slower rate. It's a little more complicated than that because you can imagine as it rains harder, you're discharging more water. So, there's a whole bunch of orififices and things in there that we're doing to release at different rates, but it's really trying to mimic what's happening in the existing condition. Um, that make sense? >> Yep. >> Thank you. Um, as far as the trees, apologies, Commissioner Brennan, I misremembered the landscape. So, they're not planting all the trees, but all the trees that are required to meet code. So, um, there's the landscaping and the tree uh, retention and tree density meets code at the end of phase 1 A, even if they're not planting all the planned trees as part of phase 1 A. Um, because as the applicant stated, some will be planted as part of the elementary school. And you can see on the phasing plan here, >> Richard, >> still on the storm water. Before we get too far away from that, I'm still having trouble with this uh seat condition 14. It says to comply with city of Esqua code requirements to maximize usable areas of the site. All storm water detention and treatment will be provided below ground in vaults, tanks, and other proprietary systems. and in the SEIPA matrix that's marked yes for phase 1A. I wonder how do you see that those two being consistent? Uh does it have to do with the proprietary systems in phase 1 A would satisfy that and that's why it's marked yes for phase 1 A? >> No. And so in my my opinion so we're trying to maximize usable space, right? So, if we're not using that space, providing an above ground system still meets that, not above ground, I'm going to stop using that word. An open air storm water system um meets meets the intent of that. So, we're not taking area. We would love to put it underground and build the baseball field as you heard Martin talk about, but but just costwise, it doesn't make sense to do that for something we're not going to build right now. So that that's our intent is that um we've met that because we're not actually building over that area. Longterm we will phase 1B that's the intent. Put it underground and do that. The original plans had um the same condition on the um elementary school. We had ponds proposed there um and and they were agreed to as part of the original piece. So I don't think that's inconsistent with the recommendations of staff. >> Okay. And before you go away, um there were concerns expressed regarding communication with city of Seamish regarding the requirements in that area. And I think that staff report and possibly the project overview said that negotiations were underway with city of Seamish regarding this project. Could you clarify that a little bit? what's what's going on behind the scenes that we are not aware of? >> Absolutely. Yeah. So, um our frontage is in d our traffic goes to 228th. The easement or the city boundary is our property line along that area. So, our improvements in 228th need approval from the city of Isiqua. We've been through three rounds of comment revisions with the city of Isiziqua. They've commented on um storm water traffic turning movements, queuing lengths, um discharge of water. There's an existing, it was mentioned that the water runs kind of we're going to discharge the water and it's going to run down the hill. So, there's an existing ditch on the other side that runs kind of through some neighborhoods and down and ultimately goes to Lapping Jacobs Creek. So, they had improvements they wanted to that. Um but we've been through three rounds of um review comments with them. And we've had multiple meetings with them over the last two or three years to to get through that process. >> That's with city of Seamish. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Katie. >> Yeah. Because I'm sorry, but if I heard that, you were saying city of Isiziqua. >> Sorry. >> We have a very Yeah, >> this the city boundaries are like super complicated for where they are. So the we do have frontage improvements in Isiqua. We've been through a similar process with the Isle part. Um but we we've submitted for both permits. from this standpoint, we've submitted for every permit needed on our site. So, sewer and water and all that wonderful stuff. >> Thank you, >> Katie. >> Um, so just to get back to I I guess this uh condition 11 and you know what happens to the baseball field site and the elementary school site. Um, so I'm just, you know, it says if if one, so if one B 1B doesn't get funded and doesn't, there's no permit for it. My understanding is then that the elementary school site would likely be stabilized, right? So everything will be stabilized. Um, uh, Geotech will be taken care of and hydro seated probably. And then there'll be an open air pond on the baseball field site >> and the outside of that would all be hydro seated like same condition like all the all the areas we're not building on are going to be hydro seated or um stabilized in some way. >> So um and that'll happen you know within and then that'll be finished um whatever is not done now would be finished within three months of knowing that we there's no per additional permit coming. And I'm wondering would is this sound like the type of plan that would be approved by the city and why there's no plan for it >> because it so the condition 11 says um you know blah blah blah stockpile shall be on roof site restored and stabilized based on a removal plan approved by the city. It sounds like you're stating a removal plan here, but there is no real removal plan. So, we don't know what would be >> The condition was written because I literally drew a plan where we were going to stockpile a whole bunch of dirt on the elementary school site as a cost savings measure. Like, to be perfectly honest, that's how we got here um or there. Um so, we're not proposing to do that. We're we're not going to have haul off at the end. There was just a concern that we were going to use that dirt in a future phase, so we're going to stockpile it. Um that's obviously not the proposal now. So I don't think >> so so this plan to finish to leave it with the hydra seating and the open air pond would be something that would be approved. >> Yeah. I the other piece with the the three months like the reality is the state of Washington department of ecology has requirements of how long you can leave a site unstabilized and not work. It's significantly shorter than three months even in the summer. So, um, it will be stabilized long before that. >> Would you pull condition 11 up on the screen? >> Seems like that's the one we keep centering on. So, I want to look at it and see if there's anything specific we want to change. >> And my question is more just with regard to the phasing. If there's going to be a phasing, then there's a chance that 1B doesn't get done. Then then what is there a plan that needs any sort of approval or what happens? And 11, I'm not sure if 11 means that there is or or not. >> Sure. I I guess yeah, city the question is if there is no 1B, is there anything further needed from the district? Is that what you're looking for? >> Can I can >> Yeah, it just says um the the site needs to be and I understand with the history of it needs to be put in some condition that would be approved by the city. So um we don't have in front of us what that condition might be. So we we don't know what the ultimate disposition of the site might be if 1B is not approved. >> Yeah. So, our proposal for 1A, so we've submitted site development permits at this point for those for that area. Um, it has the plantings and things required to meet. So the the parking lot area out in front of the school that we're building that eventually we end up expanding the parking garage over that whole hillside gets planted with code required plantings to buffer the above ground not above ground the standard parking facilities. So so we're we're meeting those requirements. That's really temporary landscaping that we're putting in to meet the city's code. So, we can tell you that we're meeting current code. It's money we're spending to to make sure we're meeting current code right now that will get at some point taken out when that area gets expanded. Um, and then the baseball field, we show hydro seating across that area um as part of it. There's an access road um existing on the site that goes through the buffer area that we agreed to with PPUA. Um that that access road gets removed. We're doing all the buffer plantings and those pieces as part of that. So, um, we really did design phase 1A to to have the ultimate condition that we think is going to be there for a little while. Um, obviously if we get funding and are able to move forward with the next phase early, that would be great, but that's not we're planning for. >> Any other commission questions? Michael, >> still following up on your question because I don't think we have an answer yet. What happens? So, we have not satisfied all the conditions of the master development permit. If phase 1B does not proceed, how do you how do you ensure that the site is restored in some condition that that um said you you mentioned um that all of the trees would not be planted in one B. and we're going to hydro seed, but is that the restored condition that the city is looking for? Or are there other requirements that the city has in code that says since the project did not proceed now, you're obligated to do something here or is that at the discretion of the city? >> There's not specific code requirements like in our land use code that says, you know, if in any project if phase two doesn't happen, this is what has to happen. Um, like the applicant said, there's Department of Ecology standards that require things to be returned and, um, you know, there is this condition about restoring the land. Um, if the elementary school isn't done, the commission is welcome to add a condition onto the amendment about if phase 1B isn't done. If you want a similar condition as this ending of um, condition 11 about res have to make sure that phase 1B area is restored as well, but there is not a specific code requirement around that. >> Yeah. So then the question becomes what's the standard that you would have to meet or is it like back at the discretion if we added a condition like that would that be at the discretion of the city to decide whether additional tree plantings would be required to uh replace those that have been removed that haven't been uh as part of the original condition or some other condition that you would have applied to the property to ensure it's stable and >> sure >> meets the environmental requirements. Yeah, I would imagine it would be something along the lines of the end of condition 11. But um the for instance the landscape permit that's going to be required the landscape construction permit that's going to be required as part of phase 1A that's submitted for that makes sure that all required trees have been planted all plant all required plantings have been planted. So it it's not like there will be any trees that haven't been planted yet that are required to meet tree density, tree replacement, those type of standards. The landscape construction permit ensures that the code required plantings and trees happen >> with phase 1 A >> with phase 1 A. >> Okay. Okay. >> Yeah. John, >> uh, getting back to when you talked about leaving the area that's cleared and grub and the state would have a different requirement. >> What what are those requirements that for instance if one 1A doesn't get done and we have some areas that are they're exposed >> at some grade? What would the state require you to do? >> So the the state basically has requirements and it comes down to wet season or dry season. So they define that in the manual, but basically if you're in the summer, you can go up to 30 days without before you have to cover or hydro seed or do something with that area. During the winter, you get three days. >> So So the state requires covering, hydro seeding or hay bales or something like that. >> Yep. Yeah. So there's an NPDS requirement for construction. The city has one for their storm water system. Each construction site gets kind of the same thing. And then we're monitoring water leaving our site, verifying that we're we're within the um erosion limits of the water that leaves our site. And um so we need to meet those requirements as well as the the clearing and um coverage requirements. >> In your opinion, is the state more stringent or is the city of Isqua? >> It's it's kind of two different standards. So, the city code requires you to get the state permit. So, you're kind of covered on both standpoints. Um, I think the way the condition was worded was was really trying to get at removing the stockpile I drew like that. That was really the goal of it. And so once we did that, we want to make sure that you get something down. And so, that's the language that was come up with. Richard, >> one more question for staff regarding impact fees. So, SEPA matrix condition 65 says the project will pay transportation impact fees the city of Isiqua in accordance with IMC 3.71 and 3.71 refers to a subsection 3.710 fee collection. The traffic impact fee shall be calculated and assessed at the time of issuance of a building permit except as provided in a subsection which refers to single family homes only. No building permit shall be issued until the impact fee has been paid in full by the applicant provided that payment of the impact fee may be phased if the building permit for the development is also phased. However, in the SEIPA matrix, it looks like impact fee is only collected to be collected at the end of phase two. Is that correct? >> Um, honestly, I'm not quite sure the condition you're referring to. The impact fees come with the building permits. So, that's not something that I evaluated as part of the amendment since that's outside the scope of what the amendment was about. That's not a specific portion that I looked at. Generally, yes. Impact fees are collected at building permit issuance. >> Okay. And this may be phased. So that's collected only at the end of phase two, however, and not building permit issuance at phase 1 A, 1B, and two. >> Yeah. >> So we last time got to the point where we were about ready to pick up our permit. And so there's a big number for that permit which includes the impact fees. So you would pay the impact fees for each individual building permit. So we'll have a phase 1A building permit, phase 1 B that obviously they're it's based on students. So the fee goes down a little bit and we pay it in chunks which is great for the school district, great for the city. You'll get money over a long time. So >> So it is paid in chunks. Yeah, it looks like in the matrix it's only yes at the end of phase two. Oh, I got you. Sorry for that. >> Okay, we've got chunks. Thank you. That that makes sense. Thank you. >> Any other comments, questions? >> Maybe just a comment. Um, so as was mentioned at the beginning of the staff presentation that what's in front of us is a pretty narrow scope of an amendment. um recognizing that um you know this the future of this project is um still a question but I can't see the future. So leave that to the school district to um plan for their needs um and um strategies for funding um school projects. Um the the amendments that we have in front of us, I think there were a number of questions that we had. Um I've got satisfactory responses to the questions that I have about um the project and how it will proceed in this new phased approach as well as the minor amendments to the to the um building entrance and uh loading dock and trash etc. So, I'm prepared to support the motion um tonight um but also uh recognize the passion that's in the room and appreciate the comments um very articulate and knowledgeable people walked up to the microphone tonight um who care about the the city, care about schools um and I think the future um and I I hope that people remain engaged and and hopefully there's a successful outcome um for everyone here if that's possible. posible. But in any case, I'm prepared to support the motion that's on the floor. >> Well, >> I guess just one comment too about about um section 11 or condition 11. It seems like that's been one of our biggest question marks is what happens if we do 1 A but not 1 B. But looking back on it, section condition 11 was written on the basis what if there was phase one but not phase two. So now we're just going phase one A and B. So it was the approval was anticipating the possibility of it not going all the way through. So in terms of trying to make changes there, I'm not sure how we would do that despite the question marks. I think there would have been question marks then. So just one thought about that. Uh, I also want to thank staff and the applicant for addressing the commission and the public's comments and questions. I think you covered everything that came up tonight. Just want to mention uh it's been a while since my daughter's been in Isiqua High School, but recently I've been doing some mentoring in the school system and my mentee moved on from middle school to high school and I haven't been that was my first opportunity to be in Isiqua High School recently and I can vouch for the observations that it is highly overcrowded. I really could not imagine the amount of traffic that was going on between class and after lunch period. So I think the development is clearly a school that we need. >> Thank you. Does that conclude deliberation? All right. And then uh I think we should restate um the motion. And my computer fell asleep. Would someone else mind reading it? Madam Chair, I'd be happy to do that. >> Thank you. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, let's do that. Madam Chair, I move that the development commission approve the major amendments to the site development permit and master site plan known as Isizqua High School number four and elementary school number 17 MSPA25-00003 as described and evaluated in the staff report date dated November 4th, 2025 with exhibits 1 through 13 subject to the conditions therein and as amended tonight. And and I move that the development commission direct the community planning and development department to prepare findings of fact and conclusions for review and approval by the development commission chairwoman affirming the development commission's decision to approve the major amendment to the site development permit and master site plan known as Isizqua High School number four and elementary school number 17. MSPA- MSPA25- Z0000003 subject to the conditions listed in the staff report dated November 4th, 2025 with exhibits 1 through 13 subject to the conditions therein and as amended tonight. >> All in favor of the main motion say I. >> I. I. >> Chair, did you get a second? >> Oh, sorry. Just making sure. >> The motion is approved. Ola, did you vote? Ola, you're on mute. Ola, did you vote? >> I I did vote. I'm sorry. >> Okay. And what is your vote? >> Uh I I move to approve. >> Okay. Thank you. So the motion is approved. This concludes the major amendment to the master site plan and site development permit for Isiqua High School number four and elementary school number 17 permit. A notice of decision will be issued by staff within 7 days. Uh staff, are there any city council updates? >> There are not. >> Okay. And any other business the commission should be aware of? Um just our December 3rd meeting, we will be going over light rail study evaluation criteria. Our senior transportation planner will be here to discuss that with the commissioners and we will also be talking about amendments to our rules. >> Thank you. >> Thank you to staff, the applicant, and members of the public. There being no further business before the commission, I adjourn the meeting at Oh, sorry, one more one more thing. Well, I I actually I do have a few council updates if you don't mind me step back. Um I just wanted to let you know recently we just updated all of our permit fees. So those will uh go into effect in um January, sorry, 2026. Um we also updated our school impact fees recently. Those also go into effect on in January 20 January 1st. Um, we also talked about the I don't know if you all have been aware of the Belleview College development agreement potential expansion or expansion area. It's not a potential area. It's 19 acres up in the Isqua Highlands that was originally washed out property purchased by Bel Bellev College. They have asked to extend their development agreement for another year. With this extension, they have the potential of putting housing up on that site uh if it is approved by city council for the next year. They will do outreach to the city council or outreach to the community and figure out what they're going to do with that site within that two years. If they want to do housing, they can do it after that. If it won't be extended anymore, they only allowed to use institutional uses. I just thought I'd update you on that. And then our comprehensive plan was recently updated as well. Just few things going on. Thank you. There being no further business before the commission, I adjourn the meeting at 8:43 p.m.