Development Commission · Wednesday, June 24, 2015 · City Council Digest

1. CALL TO ORDER

Commission Membership

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Staff report:

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2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Meeting Minutes from May 6, 2015

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Previously discussed: Development Commission · Feb 19, 2015

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CITY OF ISSAQUAH DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MINUTES

3. AGENDA ITEMS

Silverado Memory Care Community Conference

Mike Martin, Associate Planner · packet pp.11–29

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CITY OF ISSAQUAH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION

Lakeside Industries Rezone and Code Amendment Community Conference

Dave Favour, Deputy Director Development Services Department · packet pp.31–46

Topics: Land Use

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CITY OF ISSAQUAH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION

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0:15 ↗ So this is, we wait for the red light to go, not, not. Give him

0:21 ↗ the hand signal.

0:27 ↗ Good evening and welcome to the June 24th meeting of the Issaquah Development Commission. Tonight

0:32 ↗ we will be having kind of a back to the future. We've got two community

0:37 ↗ conferences scheduled and it's the first time we've done that in a while. So we're

0:43 ↗ glad to have you here. The evening will proceed first with an approval of the

0:48 ↗ minutes of the last meeting that we had. and then we'll go into the agenda

0:54 ↗ items, which are the community conference for the Silverado care facility and then for the

1:00 ↗ application by Lakeside Industries to rezone. The way this works for those of you

1:06 ↗ who have not been in one of these meetings before is that each of

1:11 ↗ the applications will be addressed first by a member of the Issaquah City Government

1:17 ↗ staff, after which the applicant will have an opportunity to make further comments, observations,

1:23 ↗ and so on. And then if there are any members of the public who would

1:29 ↗ like to address both or either one of these issues, we'd ask that you sign

1:34 ↗ in there on that clipboard and we will have an opportunity after the applicant, we

1:39 ↗ will have an opportunity for members of the public who want to say something on

1:44 ↗ the record to do so. We ask that everybody, both the applicant and the members

1:50 ↗ of the public that wish to speak, identify themselves at the microphone by announcing your

1:55 ↗ name and your address for the record. After that, we will go to the commission

2:01 ↗ itself, members of the individual members of the commission will ask, excuse me,

2:07 ↗ will uh seek if they have any further questions uh they will do so at

2:12 ↗ that time to get clarification after which the members of the commission of the conclusion

2:18 ↗ of each of the community conferences will be each member of the commission who feels

2:24 ↗ like doing so has something to say can make observations or recommendations whatever with regarding

2:30 ↗ it the nature of the community conference is primarily to get a public uh

2:36 ↗ discussion if you will of each of the applications there will not be any major

2:42 ↗ decision uh or or uh final findings or anything like that by the development commission

2:48 ↗ in the community conferences so uh with that said we will go to approval of

2:54 ↗ the minutes from the may 4th at least may 6th meeting are there any additions

3:00 ↗ or corrections that anybody would like to make i have one On page

3:06 ↗ 10, first paragraph, it was my observation and I

3:12 ↗ would like to have the record change to say

3:18 ↗ that I saw this as an opportunity, not only

3:23 ↗ for the school district, but also for the city

3:29 ↗ of Issaquah to combine their respective studies of transportation

3:35 ↗ to see if they could identify mutual work to be done to improve

3:41 ↗ traffic flows around all of the school district, middle schools and high schools.

3:47 ↗ And the main thing is to add the city into that in addition

3:53 ↗ to the school district. And that's it. Mr. Chair, I move we approve

3:59 ↗ the minutes of the May 6, 2015 Development Commission meeting as amended. I'll

4:05 ↗ second. It's been moved and seconded. Is there any further discussion? Any change

4:11 ↗ that anyone would like to make? In that case, all those in favor of

4:16 ↗ approval of the minutes as amended, signify by saying aye. - Aye. - Opposed?

4:22 ↗ All right, the minutes are approved as amended. In that case, now we will

4:28 ↗ go to the Silverado Care Community Conference. - Good evening, my name is Mike

4:34 ↗ Martin. I'm an associate planner with the city's Development Services Department. I had

4:40 ↗ the pleasure of meeting you all briefly before the meeting. Normally I do most of

4:46 ↗ my presentations to the UVDC, so this is my first time in front of this

4:52 ↗ body and I'm excited to be here. Tonight we're taking the Community Conference for Silverado

4:58 ↗ Care, file number COM150002. Mr. Harrison just did a great job of outlining the purpose

5:03 ↗ of the community conference. I'm not going to spend too much time on these next

5:07 ↗ slides, but I will highlight that the purpose of the meeting is to promote engagement

5:11 ↗ and discussion at a very high level to give the applicant, Silverado's, more ideas as

5:16 ↗ they develop their plans going into the site development permit. We can talk a little

5:20 ↗ bit more about the future permitting process after this initial step, which will be a

5:25 ↗ site development permit, which will come back to this body. So you'll have another opportunity

5:30 ↗ to review the application. But this is our first opportunity to take a look at

5:34 ↗ a very high level and start throwing out ideas, looking for opportunities, solving some site

5:39 ↗ challenges that we may discover, things of that nature. that's outlined here. So just

5:45 ↗ to give a little bit of context as to where this is, I think you're

5:51 ↗ all familiar. It's just across the street from the primary entrance at Talus Drive. So

5:56 ↗ you can see what this circle down here, excuse me, it'll show a little bit

6:02 ↗ better on the following slide. The property itself is over 22 acres and you can

6:08 ↗ kind of see by the yellow lines it kind of runs something like

6:14 ↗ that. The actual facility that's proposed covers roughly the area of this oval. So a

6:19 ↗ large expanse of the property doesn't have any plans for development. And we can talk

6:25 ↗ a little bit more about that. But what's important to note is that the proposal

6:30 ↗ just talks to have the development kind of right there at the entrance to Taos

6:36 ↗ on the opposite side of Taos Drive. i went out to the

6:41 ↗ site today and pardon me i've got allergies climbing around in this tall fescue but

6:46 ↗ i did take some photos today and you can tell the the number corresponds to

6:50 ↗ the spot where i took the photo and the direction kind of shows the where

6:55 ↗ it's going so up in the top left that was probably right about near where

6:59 ↗ the back of the site will be you can see tibbets creek run behind there

7:04 ↗ and that creek has a 100 foot buffer and there's been some preliminary wetland studies

7:09 ↗ and stream studies to look at how the project will fit within the context of

7:14 ↗ the critical areas on the site. The first one's looking out over Talus. You can

7:19 ↗ see the crane up there. They're doing well on the phase two expansion of Timber

7:24 ↗ Ridge. The second photo is kind of just inside of the drive that currently exists

7:30 ↗ there at the lights. Number three is just a shot looking straight

7:35 ↗ north right at the intersection where the existing drive is. And then the

7:41 ↗ fourth I got in there pretty good and this one again is kind

7:47 ↗ of looking north as well. An overall summary of the proposal. This property

7:52 ↗ is zoned single family estate and again it's just shy of 22 acres.

7:58 ↗ The facility which Paul is going to present shortly here is just under

8:04 ↗ 39,000 or just under 40,000 square feet. It's memory care. This is Alzheimer's

8:10 ↗ and dementia. These residents do not drive. The facility is proposed right now

8:16 ↗ with 53 sleeping units and that would accommodate 93 residents. It's a single

8:22 ↗ story building with kind of a Northwest style of architecture. The proposal calls

8:28 ↗ for 48 parking stalls. By code this is actually a little bit under what the

8:33 ↗ code requirement is. We'll likely need to do an administrative adjustment of standards to reduce

8:38 ↗ this but staff would support this given that the residents do not drive so they've

8:44 ↗ provided a study to indicate that the actual parking demand is far less than 48

8:49 ↗ and that will be further evaluated with the site development permit. I'll show you

8:54 ↗ in some photos but the site is kind of a circular enclosed facility

9:00 ↗ with an internal courtyard with outdoor amenities for their residents and guests. Some

9:06 ↗ buffer averaging and stream mitigation to the buffer will likely be required with

9:12 ↗ this project and we're working with our environmental planner and a wetland consultant

9:17 ↗ to establish the boundaries of the critical area and determine what type of

9:23 ↗ mitigation will be required and where. And finally, as it stands right now, this

9:29 ↗ type of facility is not permitted in the single family estate zoning. So the

9:35 ↗ applicant has requested an amendment to the ISQA municipal code table permitted land uses

9:41 ↗ to allow this as a use within the single family estate zoning. So what

9:46 ↗ that entails is that requires City Council approval. It's a little bit outside of this

9:52 ↗ body, but I did want to make you aware that that will go in front

9:57 ↗ of the City Council, the Planning and Policy Commission, as well as the Land and

10:02 ↗ Shore Commit-- sorry, Planning and Policy Committee and Land and Shore Committee before a vote

10:07 ↗ by the City Council. So if the City Council determined that this use wasn't suitable,

10:12 ↗ the project wouldn't go forward. but as it is now, we're taking a look at

10:17 ↗ it and that's likely to go through in the fall. It'll be on the fall

10:22 ↗ docket for the council process for the agenda bill. And the council will take a

10:27 ↗ look at that at that time. We did receive one public comment so far. This

10:31 ↗ project requires notice within neighbors of 300 feet. So we sent that out and I

10:36 ↗ got a call, or actually, yeah, I got a call and a letter from Jim

10:41 ↗ at Squawk Mountain Nursery. and his primary concern is that some of the lighting at

10:46 ↗ night could impact the nighttime growing patterns of the plants and the greenhouses. So it's

10:51 ↗ something to consider and we'll want to be aware of that and make sure that

10:56 ↗ we're not creating an adverse impact for the folks to the north at Squawk Mountain

11:02 ↗ Nursery. A quick run around the site plan and this is really blown up so

11:07 ↗ this is not reflective of the entire property. This is a zoomed in of just

11:12 ↗ the project site. But can you see my cursor? There's a light here. It's

11:18 ↗ a four-way intersection. So the driveway as it is right now being proposed, it

11:24 ↗ goes off an existing drive. We're evaluating that with our public works engineering department

11:30 ↗ to determine whether or not that's going to be suitable or if

11:36 ↗ modifications need to happen. And we're evaluating that right now. But it's

11:41 ↗ pretty straightforward, a drive into the site. There's a kind of a

11:47 ↗ drop off zone with a port cachere here. This will be the

11:53 ↗ primary entrance to the facility. Most of the parking's up here. There's

11:58 ↗ two fire access turnarounds, one here and one here. And we have

12:04 ↗ met with Mark Lawrence at Eastside Fire and Rescue. Whoa. Well, I

12:10 ↗ hope I'm on there. I don't know what happened. We did meet

12:16 ↗ with Mark Lawrence. Sorry, I want to make sure that this

12:21 ↗ is being recorded for Tim. I think it's okay. I think

12:27 ↗ he would have flashed the light if we had problems. So

12:32 ↗ I'm just going to proceed. Fire turnarounds here and here with

12:38 ↗ parking, additional parking. And then you can see the whole internal

12:44 ↗ courtyard. This is a secure access for the residents. Okay.

12:50 ↗ there is a sidewalk connection which we require from the landing pad here from the

12:56 ↗ ada crosswalk and whether or not the configuration resembles this we're not sure yet but

13:02 ↗ it's important to note that there will be a pedestrian access from state route 900

13:08 ↗ and then i'm not going to spend too much time on these but i did

13:14 ↗ throw them in my slideshow but uh here's a couple looks at the buildings in

13:20 ↗ in uh Paul Mullen with Silverado is going to have

13:26 ↗ a lot more to say about that, but I do

13:31 ↗ have them in here, some more elevations, and I think

13:37 ↗ these are in your packet. But with that, I'll turn

13:43 ↗ it over to Paul, and he'll have some more to

13:48 ↗ say about his project. Thank you. Thank you, Mike. My

13:54 ↗ name is Paul Mullen. My address is 6400 Oak Canyon,

14:00 ↗ Irvine, California. And I want to introduce James. I'm

14:06 ↗ James Brown, a principal with Wattenberger Architects. We're located in Bellevue, Washington here. So thank

14:11 ↗ you very much for having us this evening. There were three or four things we

14:16 ↗ were hoping to accomplish in working with you this evening. One was to introduce Silverado

14:21 ↗ and let you know who we are, introduce you to our operating model and answer

14:26 ↗ some questions around the site and how we're going to operate around the site. giving

14:31 ↗ an understanding of our design priorities and serving people with dementia and how we operate

14:36 ↗ with people with dementia and receive input from you, the city, on how to improve

14:41 ↗ this design. By no means is anything final or fully baked, as you guys know

14:45 ↗ with this site plan. We're really looking for input to make it the best possible

14:50 ↗ community and really fit in with the area and of course get input hopefully from

14:55 ↗ our neighbors tonight and through the whole process. We naturally do outreach with our direct

15:00 ↗ neighbors and particularly TALUS in finding ways that we can work together. So,

15:06 ↗ would like to just take you through a very short slideshow. Feel free

15:11 ↗ to let me know to stop if there's any questions along the way.

15:17 ↗ But Silverado Senior Living, our main mission, our main purpose is to bring

15:23 ↗ life to the people that we serve. Life being love, engagement, innovation, and

15:29 ↗ And those are all things that we really focus on in caring for people with

15:33 ↗ dementia. We don't believe people with dementia should be treated any different than anybody else

15:37 ↗ and, in fact, should be given the same dignity and respect that any of us

15:41 ↗ want at the end of life. Just very quickly, and I can come back to

15:46 ↗ this later, this is kind of just a very quick aerial view. Our intent is

15:51 ↗ to kind of create this Northwestern Lodge vernacular that we found along this stretch of

15:55 ↗ street that we'd like to model after, and we'd like to get some input on

16:00 ↗ that. tonight and really make it a beautiful setting that's set down into this property

16:06 ↗ and not something glaring as you're driving by, but something that looks natural in this

16:12 ↗ very natural setting. So that's a nice kind of aerial view of the site. Once

16:18 ↗ again, our purpose and what we strive for is really to change the world and

16:23 ↗ the way people are taken care of with dementia. We don't believe that even ourselves

16:28 ↗ have come to a full realization on how we can improve the way people are

16:32 ↗ cared for with dementia. So we're constantly striving and sharing with other people in the

16:37 ↗ industry the things that we do and improve upon those things. Our vision, once again,

16:42 ↗ is to bring life not only to our residents and their families, but also our

16:47 ↗ associates, and really leave the world a better place through what we do and how

16:51 ↗ we operate. The inception of our model, Lauren Shook, our CEO, and Steve

16:56 ↗ Winter. Lauren is from Redmond and a native to Washington, always wanted to find

17:02 ↗ a way to get back to this area. He started in Fairfax Hospital, a

17:08 ↗ behavioral health hospital, working as a child and then moving up through the ranks

17:14 ↗ and working for behavioral psych centers and really found that we should create a living

17:19 ↗ environment where there's pets, there's children, there's freedom of movement for people with dementia. And

17:24 ↗ he's kind of synthesized all these thoughts into operating in our design philosophy that allows

17:30 ↗ people freedom of movement and the dignity and respect they deserve. And that's really kind

17:35 ↗ of the essence of the inception of our model. Our model of care, we are

17:40 ↗ assisted living here in Washington with the Department of Health. We've worked with them previously

17:46 ↗ in communities in Everett and Bellingham and have very good record with the state. Our

17:52 ↗ model care is really focused on, once again, this idea of normalization, getting away from

17:58 ↗ an institutional skilled nursing type setting and into a residential setting that we all want

18:04 ↗ to be a part of. And really, you know, despite all the comorbidities and the

18:09 ↗ dementia, we believe that with this care, pretty logical care, there's nothing revolutionary we're doing.

18:15 ↗ But with what we do, we change the way people live and live longer and

18:20 ↗ better. And I'll show you a little bit about our clinical outcomes later on. Today

18:26 ↗ we have 31 memory care communities throughout the country from basically Chicago down to Dallas

18:32 ↗ and back here to the northwest in California. We also have hospice offices and we

18:38 ↗ hope to open a hospice office here in the Seattle area. potentially Esquire to serve

18:44 ↗ people at end of life, and as well what we call at-home services, taking

18:50 ↗ care of folks with dementia at home. So those are all lines of our

18:56 ↗ business. And that's 45 separate service locations across eight states, with two in development

19:01 ↗ now and serving over 3,000 residents with 3,500 associates on staff. around the country

19:07 ↗ it's kind of a quick map of where we are um i just want to

19:12 ↗ comment real quickly we we've done this work we've developed in a lot of different

19:16 ↗ cities issaquah has been fantastic really working with mike and chris wright it's it's really

19:21 ↗ a breath of fresh air that really embraced our plan helped us guide us through

19:25 ↗ this process and i really got to commend the city on their forward thinking and

19:30 ↗ planning it's been a pleasure working with everybody here our design philosophy and what we're

19:35 ↗ striving for. Really, we can't expect our residents to fit into our systems or the

19:41 ↗ way we do things. They have dementia, they're not going to do that. We really

19:46 ↗ need to fit into their world and what's the best way to do that is

19:51 ↗ creating this prosthetic and therapeutic model of design. prosthetic being an environment that compensates for

19:57 ↗ that deteriorating brain function, and therapeutic being a supportive community that has memory

20:03 ↗ boxes, has rest rails, has different elements, very simple kind of residential elements

20:09 ↗ that help support people in living and also get them the exercise and

20:14 ↗ the daylight they need to live and be happy. Our memory care environment,

20:20 ↗ once again, we're striving to be residential. We're promoting safety. We're also promoting freedom of

20:25 ↗ movement. We have a core philosophy that love is greater than fear. What does that

20:29 ↗ mean? It means giving the people the freedom to get up and out of a

20:34 ↗ chair and walk rather than restraining them or getting them in a chair that's too

20:38 ↗ soft to get up and out of. We want people up and out and active.

20:43 ↗ If you sit in a chair too long, your whole skeletal muscle system starts breaking

20:47 ↗ down. And then all of a sudden when you get out of that chair, that's

20:51 ↗ the risk of falling fracture. We don't want that. We want people walking. And we

20:55 ↗ really create environments that promote that. We promote a feeling of security and really a

21:00 ↗ mastery of belonging there. This is your place, your home. Therapeutic environment, once again, creating

21:05 ↗ plenty of opportunities for socialization. At any one point in time, we have five to

21:10 ↗ six different engagements going on from eight in the morning till about seven o'clock at

21:15 ↗ night when the residents have dinner and then go to sleep. opportunities for stimulation, not

21:21 ↗ just bingo, really maximizing people's awareness of their surroundings and supporting their

21:27 ↗ ability through meaningful design and imagery. So really nice artwork and really

21:33 ↗ nice natural scenery that this site affords. This is a model of our

21:39 ↗ fuller plan, which I can come back to, I have at the end of this

21:43 ↗ slideshow. But programmatically, and it was very instructive, I was able to see the March

21:48 ↗ community conference with Fieldstone, and that was very instructive to me, and some of the

21:53 ↗ questions you had I thought were very important. So I thought I'd just cover some

21:58 ↗ of those up front to help understand kind of how we operate and who we

22:03 ↗ are. as far as our floor plan goes coming off of the street here and

22:07 ↗ getting access the back of the house is here truly in the back of the

22:12 ↗ property we were very conscientious in making sure that we were along the city guidelines

22:17 ↗ and along our desire to really give plenty of room to tibbets creek we recognize

22:22 ↗ this is a natural wonder we don't want to impact it so we really wanted

22:27 ↗ to make sure we were well set back from that so the building is The

22:31 ↗ back of the house and deliveries are brought to this area. The dumpster is back

22:36 ↗ here as well. All the resident rooms are along the outside of the community and

22:40 ↗ nowhere really near this back of the house. Our main dining, we have a central

22:45 ↗ commercial kitchen and central dining. I'm sorry, Mike. If you would please use the mouse,

22:49 ↗ the red dot doesn't show up on it. Oh, okay. Sure. Sure. Sorry about that.

22:54 ↗ Let's see if I can master this here. So we have our central commercial kitchen

22:59 ↗ and central dining. There are no kitchenettes, there's no kitchens in the resident rooms. They're

23:03 ↗ really efficient units where people are sleeping and bathing. Once again, we wanna get them

23:08 ↗ up early in the morning, get them fed, and get them active. That's how they're

23:13 ↗ gonna really enjoy and feel like they have a purpose-driven life with us. So all

23:18 ↗ deliveries would come in really towards this back of the house here. That's also, once

23:23 ↗ again, where the dumpster and trash would be. Moving on. Here's a view of one

23:28 ↗ of our bistros. We have three or four bistros throughout the community as well as

23:31 ↗ our central culinary and dining. The bistros really allow folks with dementia to eat any

23:35 ↗ time of day and hydrate any time of day. Folks might want to get up

23:39 ↗ in the middle of the night and have a sandwich and have some lemonade. We

23:43 ↗ encourage that and have refrigerators that they can just reach into and grab a bite

23:47 ↗ to eat in the middle of the night and have a very nice kind of

23:51 ↗ bistro feeling to it. Our courtyard, our courtyard design, this is an example of

23:56 ↗ one of our courtyards. It's gonna be a very similar design to Issaquah's. I

24:02 ↗ call them mini central parks. They're just massive 15 to 20,000 square foot interior

24:08 ↗ courtyards that allow for different textures and walking paths. As you can see here,

24:13 ↗ this is just granulated dirt and gravel, cement. grass, all these different textures

24:19 ↗ or walking areas that people can really exercise their muscles and strengthen their

24:25 ↗ ambulatory ability. So we encourage that. We also have true solariums. We're gonna

24:31 ↗ build two into this community here. This really allows for early morning daylight.

24:37 ↗ It's a completely enclosed system that truly is like a hot house almost.

24:43 ↗ It's a sunroom. The research that we found that people with dementia, given the opportunity

24:48 ↗ to get sunlight earlier in the day, are about 50% less likely to have what's

24:52 ↗ called sundowners at the end of the day. Sundowners is behavior or acting out and

24:57 ↗ trying to break out of your environment. It's really because a lot of these folks

25:01 ↗ sometimes aren't kept in the right conditions where they're getting the natural light and the

25:06 ↗ freedom of movement they need, so they act out. We really make sure that we

25:11 ↗ emphasize that also with our interior design. Here's a kind of aerial view or BIM

25:16 ↗ model of kind of the view you'd see from above with the courtyard. We'll have

25:21 ↗ a very nice enclosure so when the rainy season, people can actually go outside and

25:26 ↗ cross over to other sections of the building without getting too wet. and a very

25:31 ↗ nice kind of garden feel to the outside. We have a putting green out there

25:36 ↗ so residents families can come and visit and putt and enjoy their time with their

25:41 ↗ mother or father and have something to do. Benches throughout as well as raised planters

25:46 ↗ and different activities outside that they can engage in and enjoy. There's a couple elevations

25:52 ↗ of the building to give you an idea. Once again, these are not final,

25:57 ↗ but we're coming to kind of a pretty nice feel of stack stone, shingle

26:03 ↗ type plank and wood material to give it, once again, that kind of Northwestern

26:08 ↗ lodge vernacular that we found in this area of Issaquah. Here's a nice example

26:14 ↗ of multi-generational entertainment. We encourage our associates to bring their kids to work. And

26:20 ↗ we definitely encourage fun and having these water slides in the middle of our courtyards

26:24 ↗ or in the middle of summertime is a great treat for the kids as well

26:28 ↗ as the seniors that want to sit and watch them. So that's a lot of

26:32 ↗ fun. once again our site plan i showed you a little earlier i can come

26:38 ↗ back to this and answer questions that i'm sure you might have as we go

26:44 ↗ i did want to mention real quickly and i did bring some supporting material in

26:49 ↗ regard to squawk mountains letter i fully appreciate what they're saying their their closest hot

26:55 ↗ house which is elevated above our parking lot here come back if i can elevated

27:01 ↗ above above our parking lot you know we we've had this challenge at other communities

27:06 ↗ where we're in a residential neighborhood we believe in dark skies we don't want to

27:11 ↗ have glaring lights in the middle of the night the the new um light poles

27:16 ↗ that we use are directional led as well as on timers so that later in

27:21 ↗ the evening after our business hours they go out we're We're more than 200 feet

27:26 ↗ away from any of those hothouses. The photometric studies we've done on other communities

27:32 ↗ show that with these directional lights that we use, there's really zero to less

27:38 ↗ than 0.1 lumens at 50 to 100 feet from our community. So I understand what

27:43 ↗ their concern is and we'll be cognizant of it. We really hope to engage them.

27:48 ↗ We believe they could help us quite a bit with our courtyard and landscaping. So

27:53 ↗ we're looking forward to getting to know them a lot better. I'll keep going. i

27:57 ↗ just want to touch on very quickly i mentioned our clinical outcomes earlier this is

28:03 ↗ very important to us when people come to us comatose on 15 or 16 different

28:08 ↗ psychotropic meds that they've had because they've been kind of sedated dementia care sometimes people

28:13 ↗ will just sedate people to care for them we don't believe in that we have

28:18 ↗ 24 7 nursing we We take people in within the first 72 hours. We assess

28:23 ↗ them. We find out what medications they really need out of the 15. Usually it's

28:28 ↗ four or five and surely enough, people that have come to us comatose with just

28:33 ↗ six weeks to live according their doctors you know two weeks later after getting off

28:37 ↗ all these drugs are are walking and talking and living again it really is pretty

28:42 ↗ amazing and we have hundreds of stories like that so so we really encourage people

28:46 ↗ to get up and walk again get them feeding feeding themselves again we track their

28:51 ↗ behavior make sure they're improving making sure they can go to the bathroom on their

28:55 ↗ own we're really encouraging as much self-sufficiency as they can have at this point in

29:00 ↗ their life, as well as having the support of caregivers to take care of them.

29:05 ↗ So we really track this stuff. Sure, please, Richard. - What do those numbers mean?

29:10 ↗ The numbers, I'm sorry, these are people that have gone from not being able to

29:15 ↗ walk to walking again, for instance, and people that weren't able to feed themselves when

29:20 ↗ they came to us that now could. And this was up through 2006, basically. So

29:25 ↗ I need to get, I'm sorry, December 2013, I need to get more recent data.

29:30 ↗ But to give you an idea, those are the lives we impacted and improved.

29:36 ↗ And I want to just end with a story of one of our residents. Her

29:41 ↗ name was Edith, and this was a picture book that was put together by a

29:46 ↗ wonderful woman who followed Edith. Edith came to us, once again, totally comatose. Her doctor

29:51 ↗ said she might have a month to live. She wasn't talking. She wasn't really moving.

29:56 ↗ We assessed her. We got her off of many of those horrible psychotropic meds she

30:01 ↗ didn't need. Within about a week or two, one of our community cats got up

30:05 ↗ on the bed and she started petting it. First movement she had in months. And

30:09 ↗ sure enough, a couple months later, after really rehabilitating and enjoying her environment, she's at

30:14 ↗ Del Mar Racetrack with her daughter betting on the horses. And that's life. That's giving

30:18 ↗ life, getting people back up and out into the community. And we encourage that. We

30:23 ↗ want our residents not only to live with us, but to get out and enjoy

30:28 ↗ trips to places like Del Mar. So that's just a really neat story I wanted

30:32 ↗ to share with you. I also enjoy getting our residents on the development team and

30:37 ↗ this is a great picture of one of our residents helping me with some plans

30:42 ↗ there. Everything's a program at Silverado. I'm happy to take any questions that you might

30:47 ↗ have and James is here to assist me as well if there's any technical detail

30:52 ↗ that you might have about the program. I appreciate that. What the format usually is

30:57 ↗ is that you'll give your presentation if the other gentleman wants to do something and

31:02 ↗ then we'll go to public comment and then the commissioners will have an opportunity to

31:06 ↗ ask you or members of the public or anything else. Perfect. James, is there anything

31:11 ↗ you might want to mention about infiltration or... I can mention a couple. Would you

31:16 ↗ identify yourself, please? I'm James Brown with Wattenberger Architects. I can just kind

31:22 ↗ of let everyone in on a couple of the concepts that kind of helped us

31:27 ↗ or led us through the design process and got us where we are. And also

31:31 ↗ I'd like to reiterate what Paul has said, that this is an opportunity for us

31:36 ↗ to get feedback. So this is not 100% set in stone. We're certainly open to

31:41 ↗ any ideas that might improve upon it. A couple key considerations that came

31:47 ↗ to mind when we approached this were first and foremost, it's a very beautiful, natural

31:52 ↗ area. We wanted to try and minimize any impact on that. And so you notice

31:58 ↗ that the building has a bit of an odd shape and configuration and orientation on

32:03 ↗ the site. That was done in great part to minimize the impact from the street

32:09 ↗ front and from any other viewable source. So we've got the building angle coming down

32:15 ↗ so that our front facade off of State Route 900 is going to be minimized.

32:20 ↗ So that along with the desire to work with the wetland boundaries and to maintain

32:26 ↗ a strong internal courtyard is kind of what led to this kind of interesting chevron

32:31 ↗ shape that we ended up with. It is a very tight site.

32:37 ↗ There are a lot of challenges. There's Tibbets Creek, there's two tributaries, and another category

32:43 ↗ three wetland over here. So we've tried to respect that. We've tried to work within

32:49 ↗ that. We are doing a little bit of buffer averaging to help get a more

32:55 ↗ regular buildable shape in this site, but we're not proposing any additional mitigation beyond that.

33:01 ↗ We are going to be proposing some improvements along with the buffer averaging. I

33:07 ↗ think we're looking at about 8,000 to 9,000 square feet at last

33:13 ↗ count of area. So we're maintaining between a 90 and 115 foot

33:18 ↗ setback for many of the Tibbets Creek or the tributaries. So it's

33:24 ↗ a difficult and fun site to work with. Our access, as Paul

33:30 ↗ mentioned, is coming right off of the existing intersection from Tallis, directly

33:35 ↗ across from Tallis. We wanted to kind of hug the building with one side because

33:41 ↗ we need a certain amount of space for vehicular circulation and to get some site

33:46 ↗ amenities. Paul mentioned that it's very important to get some intergenerational activities here. We've got

33:50 ↗ a playground in here that's actually shifting over here to be off the activity room

33:55 ↗ where I think it's going to get some more use. So we've got some opportunities

34:00 ↗ here, but the primary focus for the residents is going to be the central courtyard

34:05 ↗ area. And this is a very important space, I think. One of the difficulties

34:11 ↗ that we often have when we're designing for those with Alzheimer's or cognitive or

34:16 ↗ memory care issues is they tend to wander. And as a result, it's a

34:22 ↗ tendency to severely restrict their ability to do so. And a secure internal courtyard

34:27 ↗ is something that we love to see as designers. It's great for the residents.

34:34 ↗ You're going to get a much higher level of safety while giving the residents a

34:39 ↗ lot of flexibility and opportunity to get around, to exercise, to experience things. So that

34:44 ↗ was a very important design element. Like Paul mentioned, we're looking at trying to fit

34:49 ↗ into the context of the neighborhood. We're looking at kind of a little bit of

34:54 ↗ a contemporary twist on what I would call a Northwest style. We're currently just

35:00 ↗ this week taking another pass at that and looking forward to any input from

35:06 ↗ the community that might help guide us in that. Thank you, sir. Is there

35:12 ↗ any other member of the applicant group that wants to make a presentation this

35:18 ↗ time? All right. Is there any member with that done? We'll open it to

35:23 ↗ public comment. Is there anybody from the public who would like to comment on

35:29 ↗ the application as it stands so far? All right. Okay. There's somebody right here.

35:37 ↗ uh yeah if you'd sign in please

35:43 ↗ and then go on up to the

35:49 ↗ mic and when you get up to

35:55 ↗ the mic if you'd give your name

36:00 ↗ and address hi i'm mary moore i

36:06 ↗ live at 7804 renton isaac road southeast

36:12 ↗ i'm just directly north in fact you

36:18 ↗ can see my garage just on the

36:24 ↗ left of the parking lot um i

36:30 ↗ do have some issues oops i'm sorry

36:36 ↗ i'm hitting i don't know how to

36:42 ↗ set it back I do have a

36:47 ↗ few issues about the the type of housing this is When

36:53 ↗ I got the notice I was a little confused To me

36:59 ↗ this seemed more like a commercial property going in than residential

37:05 ↗ even though it it's a single-family estates low density residential it

37:11 ↗ just didn't seem to me like this was residential Especially with

37:17 ↗ all the parking The main concerns I have are the

37:23 ↗ north side of the property, there is a ditch and it does

37:28 ↗ have moving water in it and it's the side with the parking

37:34 ↗ lot that borders our property. The lights, if this is a facility

37:39 ↗ that's open 24 hours a day, you're going to have lights in

37:45 ↗ a parking lot that will impact not only the nursery but but

37:51 ↗ our area where we live, you're gonna have delivery trucks. If you

37:57 ↗ have a food service, you're gonna have delivery trucks delivering all hours,

38:03 ↗ backup noise when they're backing up big trucks delivering food. You're gonna

38:08 ↗ have not just, it says 91 beds, you're gonna have staff, family

38:14 ↗ is gonna create more people, more traffic continuous with family driving in

38:20 ↗ and out. That's a lot of input into

38:26 ↗ the sewer, which already I can smell at

38:31 ↗ the end of our road. And I've talked

38:37 ↗ to Public Works a couple times about it.

38:42 ↗ And that's a big concern is the impact

38:47 ↗ on the sewer line that runs right out

38:53 ↗ on SR 900. I question... why this is one story

38:58 ↗ and not two, where if you had residents up on the second floor,

39:04 ↗ you could control security with elevators. I know people that work in this

39:10 ↗ industry and that is a concern of people getting out. I know you

39:16 ↗ have the courtyard, but there's wildlife there. We have quite a

39:22 ↗ lot of bear and bobcat and coyotes and hawks. There's two huge, huge,

39:27 ↗ huge trees in the middle of the pasture that really are heritage trees

39:33 ↗ if you want to label them. They're huge. I don't see those being

39:38 ↗ saved. There's salmon now in the creek regularly. The Indians have been tracking

39:44 ↗ them. Their coho, they come up in November. For a while they weren't

39:50 ↗ there and they're back. What's the impact on that? The bears

39:55 ↗ don't care that there's going to be a memory care facility. They're

40:01 ↗ still going to come down and get into the dumpsters. They get

40:07 ↗ into our garbage. Big ones, families of bears. It's just such an

40:13 ↗ ecosystem down there. I can't, you know, the Stephanies know it. I

40:19 ↗ know it. And I understand, you know, I want the Stephanies to

40:24 ↗ sell their property and I want that for them.

40:30 ↗ But there's just, it's just too, it's such a

40:36 ↗ critical area. It's such a critical area. There's just

40:41 ↗ so much wildlife, hawks, so much down there. It's

40:47 ↗ just, it's loaded with critical wildlife and sensitive things.

40:52 ↗ You know, it just really needs to be looked

40:58 ↗ at. It borders on a wildlife corridor that was

41:03 ↗ set up with TALUS, the state park, concerns with noise,

41:09 ↗ of course, traffic on SR 900, the fast speeds there,

41:15 ↗ the continuous traffic, of course the trees. And really, really

41:21 ↗ my first and very first concern was the creek, the

41:27 ↗ salmon, and how this can be considered residential. where

41:33 ↗ if you had houses, everyone at night turns off their lights, they go to

41:38 ↗ bed. There's not trucks and lights on parking lots. It's a 24-hour thing, and

41:44 ↗ this is a residential area. That's And just truly, if you came out

41:50 ↗ and walked the property and were around and just saw the wildlife and what

41:55 ↗ it is and the beauty of it, it truly is a really, it's a

42:01 ↗ nice place. And there's not many places, if any, like that left in Issaquah.

42:07 ↗ Since I'm from here, I know. So just take that into consideration. I appreciate

42:13 ↗ it. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. Anybody else from the public wishes to speak?

42:19 ↗ In that case, we'll move to the commission clarification questions. Go around for

42:24 ↗ each commissioner, and at the conclusion of that, we'll have an opportunity as

42:30 ↗ individuals to state our opinion on it and or make any recommendations or

42:36 ↗ state approval or whatever it is that you want to do as an

42:41 ↗ individual. So, TJ, do you want to start it? If you have anything

42:47 ↗ to... Ask or get more clarification. I'm interested in what

42:53 ↗ is on the South side of the property. It sounds

42:59 ↗ like we've heard a lot the people that are you

43:04 ↗ know Squawk Mountain nursery and from the You're on the

43:10 ↗ south side north side. Okay on the other side of

43:16 ↗ the property Over in the lower right hand corner of

43:21 ↗ the map there. What's Single-family, okay, and where are the

43:27 ↗ tributaries? I don't know where Tibbetts Creek is, but those other.

43:33 ↗ So Tibbetts is running along the back of the area that we're proposing

43:38 ↗ working with. One of the tributaries goes in between the single family home

43:44 ↗ and the site. The other one goes up into the hillside up this

43:50 ↗ way. Okay. And then, as Mary mentioned, there is wetland in this area

43:56 ↗ here. Okay. And you mentioned the sewer system

44:02 ↗ that it flows out and is under State Route 900. Would that be addressed

44:08 ↗ to the city? Is there a known, is there an issue there as far

44:14 ↗ as the city is concerned with sewer capacity? There's not an issue to

44:19 ↗ my knowledge. It would certainly be evaluated with the site development permit by our

44:25 ↗ engineering staff. I do know that they need to extend the sewer a little

44:31 ↗ bit to service the property, and capacity would be analyzed. Okay, thanks. That's all

44:36 ↗ I had. Commissioner Hicks? Yes, in our packet we were told there

44:42 ↗ were 91 residents per 53 residential rooms and in your presentation

44:48 ↗ I saw 93. Is it 93 or 91? 91. 91. Okay,

44:54 ↗ thank you. Sorry, there's still a couple typos in there. Okay,

44:59 ↗ thank you. And I have... A question about the site access in our

45:05 ↗ packet, site access through the category three wetland was mentioned. However, I don't see it

45:11 ↗ listed there or maybe it's in a different slide or something like that. But could

45:17 ↗ you explain that? Sure. About 10 years ago, WSDOT with the city went ahead and

45:23 ↗ created this bridge trellis type system. There was a wetland here. It's all dried up

45:28 ↗ now. There was a spring over by Talos that somehow got dammed up. There's no

45:33 ↗ longer water here, but that was the wetland and was dealt with by WSDOT by

45:38 ↗ creating really almost a bridge structure. They also, with the city, created a drive into

45:42 ↗ the property, and that's the same drive we would plan on using. Our intent is

45:47 ↗ not to touch that bridge by any means. or deal with that wetland. We want

45:52 ↗ to go around it. Well, thank you for being transparent about the location. I appreciate

45:58 ↗ that. I think the community does too. And my last question is about traffic impacts.

46:03 ↗ Has there been a discussion between you and the city of Issaquah about the impacts

46:08 ↗ to the intersection? TALIS residents are not accustomed to dealing with any type of oncoming

46:14 ↗ traffic. They are heavy commuters. I used to live in Tallis. So I'm interested in

46:20 ↗ any discussion that's happened between you and the city about traffic impact fees or

46:25 ↗ improvements that will be done prior to occupancy. Sure. We did do a traffic

46:31 ↗ study. We have five shifts of associates that come working on five different shifts

46:37 ↗ through the week. Our biggest shift is 12 people coming in. The impacts were

46:43 ↗ relatively low compared to what could be 15 to 18 single family homes on

46:48 ↗ this property. So it was a much lower traffic impact, number one. Number two,

46:54 ↗ with TALIS, there was a full signal system that was installed there and included

47:00 ↗ with the property that we're developing on to allow for access in and out

47:05 ↗ of the property, including a left turn arrow. So it is signalized. there

47:11 ↗ and we intend to honor and use that signal. Okay and I guess

47:17 ↗ just one last question relating to public comment. Have you considered any type

47:23 ↗ of mitigation for wildlife as far as bears getting into your garbage lights

47:29 ↗ that might impact any wildlife that's living out in the wetland? Absolutely.

47:34 ↗ We would honor that ecology out there. By no means do we want to invite

47:40 ↗ bears down into it, and we'd look at maximizing the security for those dumpsters, similar

47:46 ↗ to what you find in national parks, really locking down the dumpsters to the extent

47:52 ↗ that the local... you know garbage company would allow us to do that but certainly

47:56 ↗ it's enclosed usually with a locked gate or a gate that's there so really limiting

48:01 ↗ access to those barriers and to to the point mary brought up a lot of

48:06 ↗ very good concerns we've heard this at other properties and we've addressed it we're not

48:11 ↗ a 24-hour operation people here are residents they go to bed right around seven eight

48:15 ↗ o'clock we have about two or three people on shift at the late shift to

48:20 ↗ just watch over the property. We do not have deliveries after, say, 5, 6 o'clock

48:25 ↗ at night. It's very much similar to a residential setting. People come and go at

48:29 ↗ 7 a.m. in the morning. People come and go at 5 or 6. Deliveries are

48:34 ↗ in between those hours. We're not having trucks coming in and off the property at

48:38 ↗ all hours. We wouldn't want that for our residents either. And as far as lighting

48:43 ↗ and noise, this is about – As quiet as it gets for a residential scenario,

48:47 ↗ these folks are pretty worn out after a long day of programming and going to

48:52 ↗ bed, like I said, right around seven, eight o'clock. And we really wish more families

48:57 ↗ would visit. Unfortunately, the sad fact of senior housing is not a lot of people

49:02 ↗ want to visit. And that's why we invite our associates to bring their children and

49:06 ↗ really try and encourage people. We offer free meals. We would love to have Mary

49:10 ↗ and her family come over for meals and get to know us better and see

49:15 ↗ how that we truly are residential. We are not a commercial operation. It's truly a

49:19 ↗ residential operation. And it is completely secure. We do not want people walking out into

49:24 ↗ this busy road in the middle of the night. We have worked with all local

49:28 ↗ fire authorities and we would work here with ESCOA to create delayed egress and mag

49:33 ↗ lock systems that do not let people out of the building. That's why we give

49:37 ↗ them free access to that inner courtyard which is unlocked and it really gives people

49:42 ↗ with dementia a feeling of hey, I can go anywhere I want and go take

49:46 ↗ a walk in the park. But when they get to that front door, they're not

49:51 ↗ going through it It's it's locked if there's a fire and the fire system goes

49:55 ↗ off all doors open. So yeah Mr. So what so I like the idea. I

50:00 ↗ like the internal courtyard the Reality, although contrary to what it might seem like for

50:05 ↗ the next couple of weeks We do get rain here. And while you have a

50:10 ↗ covered walkway I was wondering if you'd considered any other kinds of Congregating areas

50:16 ↗ that might have covers over them and that kind of thing. I this part of

50:20 ↗ the world Kind of demands out of if if you don't want people to get

50:25 ↗ outside and walk So that's that's the only suggestion I'd make is you think about

50:30 ↗ that that is an addition maybe if you haven't There are a couple focal areas

50:34 ↗ that are a little bit hard to read in this image where we've got an

50:39 ↗ extended outdoor porch area that activities can take place in Yeah, we've made sure jetting

50:44 ↗ out into the courtyard, there is those areas exactly that are covered, but you still

50:50 ↗ have patio furniture and access to the outdoors. I think that's a great, great idea,

50:56 ↗ and we encourage that. That's it for me. Commissioner Long? Thank

51:01 ↗ you. Mr. Chair, I had the same issue about the weather. And

51:07 ↗ you have the sunroom and not having the benefit of looking at

51:13 ↗ the floor plan. I think the sunroom is good. And I don't

51:18 ↗ know what the size is. When you have about 90 residents, it's

51:24 ↗ a sizable room that I would think that you would need. So

51:30 ↗ that's something-- If you have any clarification of that right now,

51:36 ↗ we can take a look at it. I just envision a sizable room

51:41 ↗ for this exercise during five months out of the year. You cannot go

51:47 ↗ out. The other thing that I want to kind of have you explain

51:53 ↗ is on the parking. If you could go back to the site plan.

51:59 ↗ You have a couple of parking spots in front. of the entrance there

52:04 ↗ on the west side of the main entrance. You got two of them and it's

52:10 ↗ labeled AP. What does that stand for? Yeah, right there. - These two right here

52:15 ↗ and these two? - No, you had it correct. - Okay. - Right there, yeah.

52:20 ↗ - Yeah, those would be accessible or wheelchair parking, yeah. - I see, I see.

52:24 ↗ - Yeah, we wanna get those as close to the front door as we possibly

52:28 ↗ can. - Okay. - And we will try and eke out a couple more parking

52:33 ↗ spaces if we can, but we are really trying to keep to the environment and

52:37 ↗ the ecology here. We're doing absolutely nothing, you know, you know, 100 feet from Tibbets

52:41 ↗ Creek and then all the way up the other 15 some odd acres into the

52:46 ↗ hillside there. That will be pristine tree line. We have no way of getting there,

52:50 ↗ no desire to do anything with those trees other than let them grow and be

52:55 ↗ beautiful. So we will really also embrace the ecology there. Okay. Now you have a

52:59 ↗ lot of parking that's kind of spread out, like on the south. East, you have

53:04 ↗ like three of them over there. And then on the west side of the facility,

53:09 ↗ you have like about five or six of them next to Highway 900. And then

53:15 ↗ there's quite a few on the north side of the facility. What was your thought

53:20 ↗ there when you kind of spread it out? I can answer that. Would you make

53:25 ↗ sure that you identify yourself every time I speak, please? James Brown from Wattenberger Architects.

53:31 ↗ When we started laying this project out, we had initially had some more parking along

53:36 ↗ both sides of the building. It was a little bit more dispersed. And as we

53:41 ↗ started to get more information from wetlands, as we started to develop the building design

53:46 ↗ a little bit more and get a better, more accurate sense for how to work

53:51 ↗ on the site, it became difficult to fit some of those additional stalls in. which

53:56 ↗ is why the parking count dropped a little bit and why it seems like

54:02 ↗ they're a little bit sporadic over there. But because we're right around that parking

54:08 ↗ requirement, we wanted to retain them for the time being until we could get

54:14 ↗ some additional feedback. So like the three that's on the southeast corner there, are

54:20 ↗ those for staff? Generally, yeah. The further you get from the front door,

54:26 ↗ we would encourage our associates to park in the rear areas and come through.

54:32 ↗ We have key function doors that they could key into the back doors to

54:37 ↗ come in. Those six or five that's on the west side of the facilities,

54:43 ↗ are those along 900? yeah down there yeah are those for staff as

54:49 ↗ well you know we haven't designated them um it would certainly make sense we

54:55 ↗ we would want to keep these these spaces available for visitors more than anybody

55:01 ↗ and interspersed staff further away they're more than happy to walk over to the

55:07 ↗ entry okay and um you said you you mentioned do you have five shifts

55:13 ↗ correct Okay, so what are the hours? You know, I wish I

55:19 ↗ had that parking study with me generally. Don't quote me on this, but we

55:24 ↗ have the max shift is, do you have it? Thank you very much. I

55:30 ↗ can tell you exactly. There we go. Shift one is 5.30 in the morning

55:36 ↗ to 1.30 p.m. And that's the largest shift. That's 12 associates that will be

55:42 ↗ coming in at that point. The second shift is 7 a.m. to 3 p.m. That's

55:48 ↗ nine associates coming in and on board at that point in time. Shift three is

55:53 ↗ 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. with nine associates. Shift four is 11 a.m. to 7

55:59 ↗ p.m. And shift five is 1:30 to 10:00 PM. And

56:05 ↗ I'm sorry, the last two were five and four associates, respectively.

56:11 ↗ I see. I'm trying to get a feel of when you

56:16 ↗ have the most traffic coming in. It's not a big traffic.

56:22 ↗ And again, with the concern for the neighbors, nine-- nine

56:28 ↗ seems like nine you have the first shift was 12 you say uh first shift

56:32 ↗ 5 30 a.m yeah how many uh 12 associates both associates yeah that's probably the

56:37 ↗ most that you have there that is yeah and once again we would encourage them

56:42 ↗ to park you know away from other housing and into the stalls that are there

56:46 ↗ but also it's a very good transit line right there we'd encourage them to come

56:51 ↗ in via transit The other thing is on your main parking lot there, is there

56:57 ↗ a reason why you don't have a hammerhead there? It just kills me when I

57:02 ↗ have to keep looking for a parking spot and I keep going, going, and then

57:07 ↗ when I hit the end, there are no parking spots and I can't turn around

57:13 ↗ and I have to back all the way out. So is there any reason why

57:18 ↗ there's not a hammerhead at the end there yeah it really really came down to

57:22 ↗ the buffer the wetland buffer uh we didn't want to impact any of that or

57:27 ↗ try and mitigate around it we did allow for and worked with the fire department

57:31 ↗ creating hammer natural hammerheads for their use on the back of the house here and

57:36 ↗ then right here they'd be able to back in and back out but yeah that

57:40 ↗ we also tried to be as efficient as possible with the paving and we're going

57:44 ↗ to be proposing uh previous paving to reduce the stormwater impacts on the site. But

57:50 ↗ it was also a factor in how we tried to lay out some of the

57:55 ↗ hammerheads. And so we've tried to double up on some of the hammerhead lanes for

58:01 ↗ the fire truck turnaround with the parking drive. And in doing that, I think between

58:06 ↗ that and the previous paving, we've made a significant reduction in the initial estimates of

58:11 ↗ the stormwater impacts. I think we're looking at about a two-thirds this would

58:17 ↗ be initial estimates. Yeah. Okay. Mr. Morgan? Thank you. Thank you. I think

58:22 ↗ I only have one question for staff I guess. With regard to the

58:28 ↗ rezone, is there anything you need us to do tonight?

58:35 ↗ Not directly. What we'll do is we'll package up all the commentary and we'll make

58:40 ↗ sure that that's presented to the council committees prior to their vote. So one of

58:46 ↗ the reasons we started this early is that we wanted the council to have an

58:51 ↗ opportunity to hear from you all and hear the results of this hearing before we

58:57 ↗ bring it forward. Great. Thank you. - I just want one clarification.

59:03 ↗ We've talked already a lot about lighting. I just wanna make sure that

59:08 ↗ I understand that Issaquah Creek is also, we try to keep lighting, direct

59:14 ↗ lighting off that. So that's a pretty heavy tree cover over the creek

59:20 ↗ there. So from what I understood you to say earlier, sir, that you're

59:25 ↗ saying there's virtually no light impact at night on the creek itself.

59:31 ↗ You know, we're 100 feet off the creek. I can share with you the lumen

59:36 ↗ studies and photometric studies. I thought you said earlier. Within 100 feet, it'd be 0

59:42 ↗ to, it's .001 lumens with these, and I think that's more like 50 feet off.

59:47 ↗ in the photometric study I have from another property. And we would have these on

59:52 ↗ timers. They're not on 24-7. We'd shut down around 10 p.m. That's the end of

59:57 ↗ the day for us. I would add that the staff will review for that. It's

1:00:02 ↗ a code requirement that there's no lighting impacting the buffer. So we will require the

1:00:07 ↗ photometric studies with the site development permit to ensure that there's no light spilling out.

1:00:13 ↗ yeah the new equipment that's out there now for lighting is amazing with this led

1:00:18 ↗ technology and we absolutely want to spend the money on it because it's it's it's

1:00:24 ↗ worth it you know all right we'll uh if there are any more questions or

1:00:29 ↗ clarifications at this point we'll go into any uh observations that you care to make

1:00:35 ↗ or recommendations and be as succinct or whatever you need to cover your issues on

1:00:41 ↗ this or your recommendations Any plans for sidewalks on State

1:00:46 ↗ Route 900, or is it... Yeah, the request at that

1:00:52 ↗ point was to connect, at this point it was to connect a sidewalk through to

1:00:57 ↗ the other side of Talos where there is sidewalks on that side of the road.

1:01:01 ↗ You have this Jersey barrier and a bridge that make it just very difficult to

1:01:06 ↗ improve that condition. There's no sidewalks connecting on that side of the street at all.

1:01:10 ↗ So right now we're planning to have pedestrians be able to use, you can see

1:01:15 ↗ the sidewalk here, I think. on the other side of the street. - It's not

1:01:20 ↗ that we're opposed to sidewalks. We actually think that it would be a safety concern

1:01:25 ↗ because The properties on either side currently have no sidewalks. It's not likely they're going

1:01:29 ↗ to be developed at any point in the near future. And we have some wetlands

1:01:33 ↗ in the Jersey barrier that I don't think are going to get built out in

1:01:36 ↗ the foreseeable future with sidewalks. And we're concerned that on such a busy road, if

1:01:40 ↗ we build 200 feet of sidewalk along our property, you could have people going down

1:01:44 ↗ there. And we all know that if they hit a dead end, they're likely to

1:01:48 ↗ go right across the street instead of walking back to the crosswalk. And so we

1:01:52 ↗ were really concerned about that possibility. Got it. We've got the sidewalk to nowhere on

1:01:57 ↗ the other side of the street, like southbound. I think it connects down to the

1:02:02 ↗ transit at least. Well, I'm talking about the one that goes towards Renton. Oh, yeah,

1:02:07 ↗ yeah. Sort of goes and stops there. It's in the state park. And from staff

1:02:11 ↗ perspective, the frontage improvements are still being evaluated, so we're looking at that with public

1:02:16 ↗ works engineering to determine what improvements will be required. I know in speaking with the

1:02:21 ↗ public works directing engineer, there might be some plans by WSDOT

1:02:27 ↗ to add a lane there, and we're gonna look into

1:02:32 ↗ that now so that we can accommodate that in the

1:02:38 ↗ future if needed. Thanks. I'm the granddaughter of an Alzheimer's

1:02:43 ↗ patient, so your facility looks magnificent. And I really appreciate

1:02:49 ↗ the mitigations that you've done in the planning of I've done

1:02:55 ↗ a little bit of research on your facilities and they look really great and I

1:03:01 ↗ think this fits in. You've done a lot of thought to fit this into our

1:03:07 ↗ community and since you are very interested in making sure that you have great relationships

1:03:12 ↗ with our community, just keep in mind that it's really hard for some Issaquah residents

1:03:18 ↗ to see changes happen to a piece of property like this. And and the concerns

1:03:24 ↗ about tree retention will come up. I'm concerned about tree retention, and you've obviously

1:03:30 ↗ addressed that, and I appreciate that. So on the note regarding public comment on

1:03:36 ↗ some of the significant trees, and I believe I see one of the old

1:03:42 ↗ maples that you have retained, if there's any way to work around those ancient

1:03:47 ↗ trees, I just implore you to try. Thank you. And... I think

1:03:53 ↗ you've done a great job of addressing the wetland

1:03:59 ↗ and the habitat protections, and so I appreciate that.

1:04:05 ↗ And so as far as your employees, We have something called an

1:04:11 ↗ ORCA card that you might want to look into providing for them to encourage them

1:04:16 ↗ to use transit and walk and use that great crosswalk you're considering. And also I

1:04:21 ↗ would ask that you consider the types of fertilizers that you use in your grasslands

1:04:26 ↗ because I see you have a lot of grass there and we have a lot

1:04:31 ↗ of rain in the state and that will run off into our creek. Yep. And

1:04:36 ↗ that does affect our salmon fry, and we have a salmon hatchery here.

1:04:42 ↗ So if you want to try and get involved, get your employees involved

1:04:48 ↗ in maybe salmon days and some of our ecology projects, that would be

1:04:53 ↗ a great relationship builder between you and our community. And that is all.

1:04:59 ↗ Thank you. I think it looks like a reasonable accommodation for trying to

1:05:04 ↗ put a facility in a currently Unapproved use, you know, I

1:05:10 ↗ think it is it does appear to be a residential function and a

1:05:16 ↗ big residential But it's a residential function. I think your sensitivity that is

1:05:22 ↗ really valuable really paying attention to the The ecology is really valuable to

1:05:28 ↗ all of us and looks like you're it's a good application. So I

1:05:34 ↗ appreciate your presentation Thank you Thank You mr. Chair I also want to

1:05:40 ↗ thank the presentation that you've brought up to the Commission. As far as the design,

1:05:46 ↗ I like the concept of a courtyard. I think that's pretty much what the industry

1:05:51 ↗ is doing. And that's ideal because you've got more control of what's happening in there.

1:05:56 ↗ I would ask that there's some weather protection for the residents if they need to

1:06:01 ↗ go out there. The idea of the sunroom, again, like I said, you know, we

1:06:06 ↗ have We don't have the plans to look at it right now, but that's something

1:06:12 ↗ that maybe you can consider. Maybe a sunroom and then maybe a canopy that extends

1:06:17 ↗ out to the open so when it's not too windy and if it's a little

1:06:22 ↗ bit rainy, they can still go out there. And I like the concept where you

1:06:27 ↗ said, you know, get the residents to go out and do some movement. body movement,

1:06:32 ↗ exercise and stuff like that, I think that would be good.

1:06:38 ↗ You know, Tai Chi, moving around, you know, that really helps

1:06:44 ↗ the residents. The issue about the hammerhead, I guess it's just

1:06:50 ↗ a better design if you have a hammerhead in there. I

1:06:56 ↗ know what you're faced with, so I would encourage you to

1:07:02 ↗ look into that. Like I said, you drive in there

1:07:08 ↗ and you can't find a spot and you have to drive back

1:07:14 ↗ all the way out. I assume that you don't, most of those

1:07:20 ↗ parkings are for staff, not a whole lot for the visitors. So

1:07:26 ↗ I... the distance between the parking and the main entrance, somebody coming over to visit

1:07:31 ↗ their mom, they have to park all the way into the parking lot and the

1:07:36 ↗ parking lot is full of staff parking. And so they have to drive all the

1:07:41 ↗ way towards the end, no parking stalls, they gotta come all the way back out.

1:07:47 ↗ and then they have to look around for a parking spot. So it's

1:07:53 ↗ a nicer design if you have a hammerhead in there. I like the

1:07:59 ↗ sidings that you have around the building, the modulation that you have. Maybe

1:08:04 ↗ it's being dictated by the buffer setback that's required, but it's not bad,

1:08:10 ↗ it's good. So all in all, I like the design, and thank you

1:08:16 ↗ for making the presentation. Thank you. Mr. Morgan? Thank

1:08:22 ↗ you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the applicant and the architect for coming in

1:08:27 ↗ the presentation, especially all the materials you've provided, the aerial photo shots, everything was very

1:08:33 ↗ excellent, very helpful, and we appreciate it. And to Mike Martin, great job with your

1:08:38 ↗ first job, first time in front of the Development Commission. Thank you. for the staff

1:08:44 ↗ report the um i do like the building design i like the fact that you've

1:08:49 ↗ incorporated some stone and wood and and taken northwest style too and i appreciate that

1:08:54 ↗ i think my only concern with the building itself would be the the roof itself

1:08:59 ↗ uh which from some of the aerial i guess we'll call mariel shots views of

1:09:04 ↗ it it does look like a fairly large brown expanse of roof cover and since

1:09:09 ↗ it's down lower people from the street and so forth i wonder if that's something

1:09:14 ↗ that could be looked into either in um yeah especially that shot if it's going

1:09:19 ↗ to look like a just a large unbroken roof cover if it's all the same

1:09:23 ↗ type of roof cover and so forth if there's anything that could be done there

1:09:28 ↗ um there was a comment in the staff report about adding more modulation on the

1:09:33 ↗ east side and i want to throw and i i don't think that's necessary since

1:09:38 ↗ the east side just backs up to trees and the creek i wouldn't think it

1:09:43 ↗ would be necessary but there is one concern i have back on the east side

1:09:48 ↗ is the the um the large windows that go into the um uh i guess

1:09:52 ↗ it'd be a common area looks like there's a Fireplace and some

1:09:58 ↗ large windows there. I'm not sure if

1:10:03 ↗ you can pull that If you can

1:10:09 ↗ get one of the it would be

1:10:14 ↗ one of the exterior elevations It was

1:10:20 ↗ a five in your I'm not sure

1:10:25 ↗ if it's in your document or the

1:10:30 ↗ staff report If that's the can read

1:10:36 ↗ if that's the east elevation the bottom

1:10:41 ↗ that is that the port Co share

1:10:47 ↗ and Another event at the east elevation. There's

1:10:52 ↗ a there's a large With lots of windows to it common area that looks out

1:10:57 ↗ my concern would be the light that would spill out of that at night Towards

1:11:01 ↗ the creek and I like the it's a nice look of it I'm sure the

1:11:06 ↗ the view out to there would be great if there's a way to incorporate shading

1:11:10 ↗ even if you turn the lights down there's still going to be a lot of

1:11:15 ↗ spillover that would come out and if there'd be a way to shade that at

1:11:20 ↗ night to prevent that spillover from that. I would like at the SDP site development

1:11:26 ↗ permit stage for us to be able to see the parking study. I think that'd

1:11:32 ↗ be very interesting, as well as seeing the photometric study from the parking lot, for

1:11:38 ↗ the parking lot. And it brings up one thought on the north side of the

1:11:44 ↗ parking lot, especially giving this change if it gets changed from the single

1:11:50 ↗ family estates to a essentially a commercial zone the possibility of adding uh yes mike

1:11:55 ↗ may i just clarify on that So this is not a zoning change. This is

1:12:01 ↗ a change to the table of permitted land uses to allow assisted living, which in

1:12:07 ↗ our code is classified as residential. So I just want to be careful about the

1:12:12 ↗ notion of commercial, granted the classification. Okay, thank you. So my concern here is we've

1:12:18 ↗ put about a 36 stall parking lot just south of some residential property.

1:12:23 ↗ My recommendation would be to put some coniferous trees, some evergreen trees

1:12:29 ↗ at the north side of that parking lot to provide some year-round

1:12:34 ↗ buffering between the houses there and the parking lot itself. And

1:12:40 ↗ then I guess my final concern with the change in use would be, as it

1:12:46 ↗ was mentioned, I think the 6:00 a.m. backup beepers on a food delivery truck on

1:12:52 ↗ a Saturday morning would be one of my bigger concerns for neighbors. And that would

1:12:58 ↗ get towards, I think, the possibility of putting in some limits for commercial deliveries to

1:13:04 ↗ the building. It doesn't sound like that would be a problem anyway. No. That's all

1:13:10 ↗ I have. Again, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. I would also

1:13:15 ↗ like to thank staff and the applicant and the members of the public who came

1:13:20 ↗ in tonight to share your opinions with us. I hope you've been satisfied with the

1:13:26 ↗ fact that we have already listened to you. I like the application.

1:13:31 ↗ I appreciate the work that's gone into it. I think it

1:13:37 ↗ is an appropriate use of that site. We expect drainage in

1:13:43 ↗ particular and all issues environmental concerned with the development of that

1:13:48 ↗ site to be meticulously addressed. It's been noted in the public

1:13:54 ↗ comment that this is a a natural site with a lot of

1:14:00 ↗ wildlife there there has been a lot of money spent by the city and the

1:14:06 ↗ county and the state actually in this area has been noted to improve wildlife presence

1:14:12 ↗ and movement and if the funding is appropriated that's going to continue so this is

1:14:18 ↗ a very unusually sensitive area and you have the opportunity to go in

1:14:23 ↗ there and do your facility and I guess the best case scenario would

1:14:29 ↗ be to not have any negative impact on the critters that live there

1:14:35 ↗ and rely on that. The elevations that have been presented to

1:14:41 ↗ us, the materials and everything, I agree with my fellow commissioners are great.

1:14:46 ↗ I just have one thing that we note usually on the northwest elevation,

1:14:52 ↗ on exterior elevation, the illustration A4, there is a large, part of

1:14:58 ↗ that elevation that has no windows. It's just a wall.

1:15:04 ↗ And it looks like there might be a delivery dock

1:15:09 ↗ there or a garage door or some supply thing there.

1:15:15 ↗ but that would also be an opportunity to modulate that

1:15:21 ↗ blank wall. And since it is northwest, it would be

1:15:27 ↗ visible from off the site. So that is usually a

1:15:33 ↗ pretty significant concern for the development commission to get modulation

1:15:39 ↗ on blank walls. My understanding, Mike is that they are

1:15:44 ↗ this application as it stands now will be significantly under the amount

1:15:50 ↗ of impervious surface that they could put in there. So that and

1:15:56 ↗ I believe you sir mentioned that you're going to use pervious pavement.

1:16:02 ↗ Okay, that's that's particularly good. I mean you The development that's going

1:16:08 ↗ in now in Issaquah really has an opportunity to kind of set the pace to

1:16:13 ↗ look at new ways of doing things as we go forward and as we have

1:16:18 ↗ less and less space and more and more of a challenge to have the development

1:16:23 ↗ that is coming have as little of an environmental impact as possible. It's particularly nice

1:16:28 ↗ for me to see that this is a lot less impervious surface than could have

1:16:34 ↗ been the case. So I think I look forward to seeing the next presentation. I

1:16:40 ↗ think you've done a good job. It will be an interesting thing to follow through

1:16:46 ↗ and we'll trust you to do the right thing along with the staff. Thank you.

1:16:52 ↗ Thank you for having us. thank you folks is there

1:16:57 ↗ anything else on this one all right if that said we

1:17:03 ↗ will close the community conference thank you gentlemen we'll close the

1:17:09 ↗ community conference uh c o m one five dash zero zero

1:17:15 ↗ zero zero two and uh i guess we'll just go right

1:17:20 ↗ straight into the next community conference uh with uh the staff

1:17:26 ↗ presentation on the lakeside industries

1:17:34 ↗ Call up the next slideshow

1:17:39 ↗ here. I had it up.

1:17:44 ↗ All right, there it is.

1:17:50 ↗ This isn't your first time,

1:17:55 ↗ is it? No, it's not.

1:18:00 ↗ Sounds a little bit nervous.

1:18:05 ↗ I'll make it look that

1:18:10 ↗ way. I'm sure I will.

1:18:15 ↗ I usually do. So let's

1:18:20 ↗ get started. Good evening. So this is community conference number

1:18:26 ↗ two. It's a request for Lakeside Industries rezone and a code amendment. The

1:18:32 ↗ unique thing, well, I'll just get going here. So we know what the

1:18:37 ↗ purpose of a community conference is. You all know what the purpose is

1:18:43 ↗ to generate general ideas, input, and and discussion as we move through the

1:18:49 ↗ public process towards adoption possible of the request. So it's a unique request to

1:18:55 ↗ come before the Development Commission. Normally this commission looks at physical development of projects.

1:19:01 ↗ In this case, the request that brings us here is for the rezone of

1:19:06 ↗ property from the mineral zone to the intensive commercial zone. and in looking

1:19:12 ↗ at our code we both the applicant and the staff notice that it it does

1:19:18 ↗ say a rezone initiated by an applicant requires a community conference in the public process

1:19:23 ↗ and after this then goes off to the planning policy commission which normally looks at

1:19:29 ↗ policy issues and makes a recommendation to the city council so we're at step one

1:19:34 ↗ of the public process and We don't have any development plans for

1:19:40 ↗ you to comment on tonight, but you can if you wish. Where

1:19:46 ↗ is it? It's the lower part of the Lakeside Industries property, the

1:19:51 ↗ gravel pit that we've all seen as you drive east on I-90.

1:19:57 ↗ There's the mouse. It incorporates three separate parts that are separated by

1:20:02 ↗ two public right-of-ways. right off of East Lake Sammamish Parkway and here's the

1:20:08 ↗ front and I-90 interchange. This is 229th Avenue coming off of East Lake Sammamish

1:20:14 ↗ Parkway that heads up towards an old, kind of the old Vaughn Hill right

1:20:20 ↗ of way. And that's why we have that separation to, where did my mouse

1:20:25 ↗ go? There it is. A triangular piece, the main valley floor operations element of

1:20:31 ↗ the site. And then a tiny triangle down separated by First Avenue as

1:20:37 ↗ a person drives south towards the RV park and the shop site. So

1:20:42 ↗ that's the site we're looking at. Lakeside Industries incorporates this property as well

1:20:48 ↗ as the eastern part that heads up the hill towards the Highlands. And

1:20:54 ↗ that is governed by a development agreement that was approved and worked through

1:20:59 ↗ council in January 2013. So that's not under consideration tonight. That has its

1:21:05 ↗ own urban village zoning. It's this kind of, I don't know if it's a remnant

1:21:11 ↗ part, but it's the other part that we're here to get tonight. So again, this

1:21:17 ↗ is in your packet, kind of a site survey that shows some of the elements

1:21:22 ↗ of the property we're looking at. Again, the roads, the right-of-ways that separate the pieces,

1:21:28 ↗ and then the North Fork of Issaquah Creek. kind of parallels 229th as

1:21:34 ↗ it comes down the hill. So some background, I think as we all know,

1:21:40 ↗ Lakeside has been in operation for several decades, mining this property and doing asphalt

1:21:45 ↗ and concrete production. I mentioned the development agreement. And on page five of the

1:21:51 ↗ development agreement kind of sets the stage for why we're here tonight. There's a

1:21:57 ↗ section at the bottom here that says, It was envisioned that because it's

1:22:03 ↗ environmentally and economically beneficial to have such an in-city operation as such as this,

1:22:08 ↗ Lakeside and the city did agree that asphalt concrete production and the recycling of

1:22:14 ↗ the same are compatible adjacent uses to the project, which was the development agreement,

1:22:20 ↗ as I understand, right, the project. It's also, I'd say, compatible to the adjacent

1:22:25 ↗ kind of intensive commercial uses in that whole neighborhood there. So it

1:22:31 ↗ was understood that continuing these activities is beneficial and that we would work together

1:22:37 ↗ to go through the process we're going through tonight, beginning tonight. So that leads

1:22:42 ↗ to two requests that are coming. One is to rezone the property from M

1:22:48 ↗ to IC And the second is to amend the IC code to

1:22:54 ↗ allow one use that's not already permitted, which is to allow the existing operation

1:23:00 ↗ that happens there today, the asphalt, concrete, mixing, and recycling, to continue as an

1:23:06 ↗ outright permitted use on the property. Today it's allowed in the M zone as

1:23:11 ↗ accessory to the mining use, but only as accessory to that use. And someday

1:23:17 ↗ mining will likely cease here, so... this would allow that other use

1:23:23 ↗ to continue. So now we get into the various elements of zoning

1:23:29 ↗ and the purposes. So here's a summary out of the code of

1:23:34 ↗ what's the purpose of the mineral zone to provide for extraction and

1:23:40 ↗ processing of soil resources. The IC zone allows a variety of many

1:23:46 ↗ different commercial uses, including intensive commercial uses. I was kind of interested

1:23:51 ↗ to find the second point down here that our code does say intensive commercial services

1:23:57 ↗ which may have negative impacts. So we just kind of say, yes, they're intensive, they

1:24:03 ↗ have impacts, and we should locate them where there may be negative impacts that other

1:24:09 ↗ neighbors might not have as much of a problem with versus less compatible nearby zones.

1:24:17 ↗ Here's a map, thank you, that the applicant provided in your packet. Kind

1:24:23 ↗ of show graphically the zones that surround. So here's the urban village zone

1:24:28 ↗ heading up the hill. That's the development agreement area where future urban development

1:24:34 ↗ will happen as it shifts from mining over the many years to more

1:24:40 ↗ urban commercial and residential uses. And then existing IC zoning is in the

1:24:45 ↗ diagonal hatch kind of surrounding the east side or the west side of the

1:24:51 ↗ property. So on the other side of First Avenue and 229th here is existing intensive

1:24:56 ↗ commercial uses. And so this area you see here would kind of merge into that.

1:25:02 ↗ The land use code has a list of 10 criteria that are summarized on the

1:25:07 ↗ screen here. I'm not going to go through every one of them. I can highlight

1:25:13 ↗ a couple. Number three talks about growth controls, and it's spelled out in

1:25:19 ↗ your packet, but that focuses on housing and say we should not rezone

1:25:25 ↗ for more housing unless we're not meeting our housing targets. This IC zone

1:25:31 ↗ continues to not permit housing, so that's, I'd say, not an issue here

1:25:36 ↗ tonight. kind of talked about no detriment to adjacent properties. You know, this is a

1:25:42 ↗ public meeting, so we'd like to hear if there are negative impacts. We're thinking it's

1:25:47 ↗ a So far a fairly good idea to follow through on the proposal we're hearing.

1:25:53 ↗ Environmental impacts need to be evaluated through the process, so a SEPA checklist will be,

1:25:59 ↗ environmental checklist will be submitted. And environmental documentation did happen with the Lakeside Development Agreement.

1:26:04 ↗ So to the extent we can use that information to inform us here, we'll do

1:26:10 ↗ that. That's a summary of kind of the rezoned criteria. The Code Amendment proposal I

1:26:16 ↗ mentioned already is It's recognized that only the existing operation or

1:26:22 ↗ any operation that was established prior to October, August 2, 1999

1:26:28 ↗ can continue using. So this would not allow the wholesale expansion

1:26:33 ↗ of these operations throughout all IC zones in the city. The

1:26:39 ↗ criteria for code amendment are fairly general, but they give us

1:26:45 ↗ guidance. And the next steps I've

1:26:51 ↗ kind of already summarized. We're here tonight. We're going to review tonight's comments and

1:26:57 ↗ the SEPA checklist and any other comments and prepare those for recommendation to the

1:27:03 ↗ July 9th Planning Policy Commission in a couple weeks. And it will likely be

1:27:09 ↗ that this will take a little hiatus through the August summer month and reappear

1:27:14 ↗ in front of council in the early fall for a decision.

1:27:21 ↗ There you have it. All right. Thank you, Dave. Is there

1:27:26 ↗ somebody from the applicant that wishes to make a presentation? If

1:27:32 ↗ you would, state your name and business address, please.

1:27:39 ↗ yes good evening my name is john hempelman at karen cross and hempelman and i

1:27:45 ↗ am counsel for lakeside industries let me just say it's good to be back with

1:27:50 ↗ you again of course i know a number of you from the almost year we

1:27:56 ↗ spent with you in 2012 as we went through the lakeside development agreement for the

1:28:01 ↗ eventual urban village on the hillside i'd like to talk about that at kind of

1:28:06 ↗ that Italian village that's going to show up on the hillside once the mining is

1:28:11 ↗ done. As Dave said, the reason that we're here is to complete

1:28:16 ↗ the commitment that was made by the city and Lakeside Industries in

1:28:22 ↗ the development agreement of January of 2013 to pursue a zone change

1:28:28 ↗ and a code amendment to allow the existing processing operations on the

1:28:34 ↗ floor of the valley below the hillside to continue. The city is

1:28:40 ↗ found that those asphalt and concrete processing and production facilities are very, very important

1:28:46 ↗ to the city and the region. And the parties want to make sure that

1:28:52 ↗ can continue when the mining stops on the hillside. As Dave said, mining, mineral

1:28:58 ↗ production and recycling is an accessory use to a mineral use. And we've already

1:29:04 ↗ changed the zoning of the hillside from mineral to urban village. And ultimately

1:29:09 ↗ the mining is going to stop and the reclamation of the hillside and the development

1:29:15 ↗ of the hillside will occur. But everybody's objective is that the processing will continue for

1:29:20 ↗ a long time. I'm going to have Karen Deal, who is the Environmental and Land

1:29:26 ↗ Use Director for Lakeside, and Bill Dempsey, who is the Operations Director for all of

1:29:31 ↗ the Lakeside facilities, the western part of the state, Oregon, even BC. They'll come up

1:29:36 ↗ and just tell you a little bit about the operations. Some of you may have

1:29:41 ↗ gone out. We had a number of visits to the site out there when we

1:29:46 ↗ were here in 2012. So some of you may have been out there and seen

1:29:52 ↗ all of this, but you know, it's behind the trees. You don't go out there

1:29:57 ↗ very often. So Bill has a couple exhibits that will show you what's going on

1:30:02 ↗ out there. As Dave said, what we're doing is going through a proposed change of

1:30:07 ↗ zone from a mineral resource zone on this flat area of the processing area to

1:30:13 ↗ intensive commercial. Pretty easy to pick that because the comp plan designation is

1:30:18 ↗ already commercial over the lakeside site. The property to the south and to

1:30:24 ↗ the west is already zoned intensive commercial. In fact, some of the lakeside

1:30:30 ↗ property that's in the processing area is already zoned intensive commercial. So it

1:30:36 ↗ was pretty easy to pick that zone and it clearly is compatible with

1:30:41 ↗ the operations. So we need to change the zone from mineral

1:30:47 ↗ to intensive commercial, but intensive commercial does not right now allow

1:30:53 ↗ asphalt, concrete production and recycling. So the other part of this

1:30:58 ↗ proposal is to amend the table of uses allowed in the

1:31:04 ↗ IC zone to allow continuation of asphalt and concrete production and

1:31:10 ↗ recycling that has been in place since 1999. That's the way the

1:31:15 ↗ code is currently written. In fact, Dave said it's been in operation for

1:31:21 ↗ several decades, and I will add, and then several more decades and several

1:31:27 ↗ more decades because Lakeside's predecessor actually acquired this in the 1960s. So it's

1:31:32 ↗ been 55, 60 years in operation. It's going to be in operation 20,

1:31:38 ↗ 30, 40 more years. The key for you to understand is while the

1:31:44 ↗ zone is going to change, the uses are not going to change. These are

1:31:50 ↗ very, very important production facilities for everything we do in our urban area, the

1:31:55 ↗ production of the asphalt and the concrete. I mean, it's for Issaquah roads, state

1:32:01 ↗ highways, it's for fish hatcheries, it's for parking lots, it's for driveways. It's

1:32:07 ↗ everything that you can think of that goes in to the demand for concrete

1:32:13 ↗ and asphalt. And importantly, Lakeside is a major recycle, recycler of old asphalt that

1:32:19 ↗ is torn up off the roads, old concrete that is torn off the roads,

1:32:25 ↗ which would otherwise be put into landfills. Lakeside takes it out there and crushes

1:32:31 ↗ it, and they put it back into the new asphalt. And Cadman is

1:32:37 ↗ out there as a lessee on that property doing the concrete production.

1:32:43 ↗ And so from a sustainability perspective, it's a wonderful set of uses

1:32:49 ↗ which will not change. It's pretty unusual that we can come before

1:32:54 ↗ the Development Commission and there's no development. This is a community conference.

1:33:01 ↗ You know, they'll continue to improve their crushers and improve the plant efficiency

1:33:07 ↗ and reduce the emissions as they do, but there's no new development. It's

1:33:13 ↗ a continuation of the uses. But under the municipal code, under the level

1:33:18 ↗ six processing, it says that a rezone of this type that does not

1:33:24 ↗ require a comprehensive plant amendment should have a community conference before the development commission.

1:33:30 ↗ So I'm hoping that we're making your evening, the end of your evening, a little

1:33:36 ↗ more interesting because you're doing something maybe you've never done before. We've never done it

1:33:41 ↗ before. So we're all learning together. So that's the background of this. We've committed to

1:33:47 ↗ change the zone. We're committing, we're moving forward on that commitment. but nothing changes

1:33:52 ↗ we just want to assure that we stay legal in in the

1:33:58 ↗ city of issaquah because lakeside's been here a long time they want

1:34:03 ↗ to stay here a long time so with that um bilk you

1:34:09 ↗ want to plug in your stick and show them or karen this

1:34:14 ↗ is karen karen deal from lakeside industries and she's the environmental manager

1:34:21 ↗ All right. Do you actually have connection to the internet?

1:34:26 ↗ I mean, that's another option if this doesn't work. The

1:34:32 ↗ King County IMAP is pretty effective. Open. All right. Well,

1:34:38 ↗ let's see if this works. Well, if it's not large

1:34:44 ↗ enough, we can zoom in on the internet a lot

1:34:50 ↗ better. But well, let's go for it. OK. All right.

1:34:56 ↗ Well, I'm going to turn it over to Bill Dempsey. He's going to talk to

1:35:01 ↗ you about what we do out at the facility, the processing area. And there's a

1:35:07 ↗ couple of distinct processing areas that have the cloud bubble around them. This is just

1:35:13 ↗ a-- and I'll be able to scroll down. This is just a PDF I pulled

1:35:18 ↗ off of King County IMAP zooming in on the larger picture you saw earlier from

1:35:24 ↗ Dave. So you want to go ahead and take over there? Sure. I'm Bill Dempsey.

1:35:29 ↗ I'm the production manager. And my address of business is right around in here over

1:35:35 ↗ at the pit. So I noticed you asked for it. and I've been at Lakeside

1:35:40 ↗ for 35 years and this pit's quite a bit older than I am, so it

1:35:46 ↗ has been a couple years. But if I go through this too quick, it's because

1:35:51 ↗ it's something I deal with every day, and so if you want to stop me

1:35:56 ↗ and ask questions about our process, feel free. Right, I'll start with the mine. This

1:36:01 ↗ doesn't show the mine. The mine is back off the screen, but this is a

1:36:06 ↗ belt that comes in with It's coming in here and we take the gravel

1:36:12 ↗ and split it into two sizes. This is your inch and a half minus, which

1:36:18 ↗ includes your sand and round rock. This would be your bigger rocks. And so the

1:36:24 ↗ bigger rocks go through the crusher and go through all, this is all the crusher

1:36:30 ↗ right here. And it, gets separated into sizes, and I'll talk about

1:36:35 ↗ where that goes. The other smaller rock comes in, and we take it over

1:36:41 ↗ to what's called the wash plant and that is what gives your clean aggregates we

1:36:47 ↗ wash the aggregates with water and shaking them on a screen and when you're making

1:36:52 ↗ concrete or you want pea gravel that's where you get you have to wash that

1:36:57 ↗ kind of gravel and it's not crushed that's just a screening and washing operation and

1:37:03 ↗ if you look at These belts right here, those go to a tunnel

1:37:08 ↗ feeder that services Cadman's batch plant, which they turn on these tunnel feeders

1:37:14 ↗ so the loader really doesn't have to touch it, and it goes over

1:37:19 ↗ and makes concrete right here. Different blends. They get different blends and different

1:37:25 ↗ ratios of gravel. The crushed rock, if we don't sell it as crushed

1:37:31 ↗ rock, we put it into our asphalt plant, which the loader runs around in

1:37:36 ↗ this area and puts it in these feeders. Rock comes up, goes through the

1:37:42 ↗ dryer, mixes with oil, comes up to these silos right here, and the trucks

1:37:48 ↗ come under the silos and load the asphalt out and drive away. Up here

1:37:53 ↗ is our recycle pile of broken and ground up asphalt. and it gets

1:37:59 ↗ put into the crusher right here and stockpiled right around here and we

1:38:05 ↗ do haul it in a haul truck down around and stockpile it here.

1:38:11 ↗ It gets put into this feeder and gets blended in at a ratio

1:38:17 ↗ of 20 to 25% of asphalt. So if we're making 100,000 tons of

1:38:23 ↗ asphalt, we're putting in about 25,000 tons of recycled material. When you wash,

1:38:30 ↗ gravel, you end up with mud. Everybody knows there's mud in the gravel unless you've

1:38:35 ↗ got a really special gravel pit. And since we don't have settling ponds anymore, which

1:38:41 ↗ used to be all over lower part of Issaquah that they pump mud to, but

1:38:46 ↗ now we have what's called a mud recovery facility here. It dries it out to

1:38:51 ↗ about 46% moisture, so you can make a good mud ball

1:38:57 ↗ and throw it against the wall and it sticks. But that mud

1:39:03 ↗ is not used for anything. It's too moist. And so we haul

1:39:09 ↗ it off to North Bend, to Cadman's fill site out by Truck

1:39:15 ↗ Town. Down here, we've got our warehouse, which just houses We

1:39:21 ↗ service our asphalt plants. We've got 18 asphalt plants throughout the state and as

1:39:27 ↗ John says, Oregon and Idaho. And this is spare parts and this is our

1:39:33 ↗ maintenance facility right here. So, and you see these ponds here, this is our

1:39:39 ↗ water recovery and we directed, I don't know if it's on the, it's not

1:39:45 ↗ on this slide, but we directed up to an infiltration pond up at the

1:39:51 ↗ very top. So... That's about it for the extent

1:39:56 ↗ of how we operate there. Is there any questions about it?

1:40:02 ↗ We'll have an opportunity to ask when we go around. Oh,

1:40:08 ↗ okay. That's it? So, Bill or Karen, can you just confirm

1:40:14 ↗ that you don't anticipate any change of use of this facility

1:40:19 ↗ in the foreseeable future? We really don't. We've been operating like

1:40:25 ↗ this... If we do anything, it would be make it a more efficient

1:40:31 ↗ asphalt plant, which it is really efficient right now. And we have added, not

1:40:37 ↗ added, but replaced some of the older crushers, which used to be very labor-intensive

1:40:42 ↗ to adjust, and now it's adjusted just like with a mouse click. So the

1:40:48 ↗ uses stay the same, even though the equipment might be updated from time to

1:40:54 ↗ time? Updated equipment. Okay. Carol, anything to add? No, that's it. The use will

1:40:59 ↗ stay the same. But we need to change the zoning. All right. So that's the

1:41:05 ↗ presentation. All right. Thank you, sir. So now we'll go to if there's any member

1:41:10 ↗ of the public that wants to speak, make an observation. If you do, I don't

1:41:15 ↗ know if you're with the public or not, but if you do, if you'd sign

1:41:20 ↗ in just to get on the record, and then if you care to speak. you

1:41:26 ↗ can come up to the mic if not let's get your call all right in

1:41:32 ↗ that case we will go to the individual commissioners again who can uh if they

1:41:37 ↗ have if you have any uh need for clarification uh this is the time to

1:41:43 ↗ ask questions and then we'll once we're finished with the clarification cycle we'll go back

1:41:49 ↗ and make our individual observations uh is there any lifespan for the mine i'm just

1:41:55 ↗ It's more just general information. - Yes. As part of the development agreement,

1:42:00 ↗ we produced a updated grading and reclamation plan. It's anticipated that the hillside

1:42:06 ↗ will be mined out and reclaimed over a 20 to 30 year period.

1:42:12 ↗ It could be sooner, it could be longer, just depending on the demand

1:42:18 ↗ for the material. And then the availability of the material to reclaim the

1:42:24 ↗ hillside. there's a very very elaborate plan to reclaim the hillside so in

1:42:29 ↗ the end it can be built on at slopes that are something less than

1:42:35 ↗ an italian hillside village so because it's very steep it is some of it's

1:42:41 ↗ very steep and you know when you mine it it gets even steeper and

1:42:47 ↗ then that has to they'll accept fill it'll be engineered fill very carefully placed

1:42:53 ↗ obviously from the bottom up to fill that hillside to, at the top up by

1:42:59 ↗ the highlands, some of you may remember this from the work in 2012, it'll be

1:43:04 ↗ at about a 5% grade, and then it goes down to about a 10% grade,

1:43:10 ↗ and then at the bottom, between the hillside village and the processing area, it will

1:43:15 ↗ be steeper to kind of provide a buffer between the mine, the processing area, and

1:43:20 ↗ the hillside. So could be 20 to 25 years of mining on this site

1:43:26 ↗ I say mining and reclamation, that they will be able to do some of it

1:43:31 ↗ simultaneously. I'm curious about the water. What properties is that, the water in the retention

1:43:36 ↗ pond? Is it any toxicity or anything like that? Oh, no, we're talking about stormwater.

1:43:42 ↗ I mean, we're just talking about stormwater that comes in contact with the-- Could you

1:43:47 ↗ identify yourself just every time there's a new speaker? Every time, okay, yes. Karen Dill,

1:43:52 ↗ Lakeside Industries, Environmental and Land Use Director. So the stormwater is collected on site. That's

1:43:58 ↗ what the stormwater detention ponds are there for, is to just flow control and for

1:44:03 ↗ infiltration. And then again, there's that pond there. It's pumped up to some infiltration ponds

1:44:08 ↗ for further infiltration on site. So in any process water that is used, we do

1:44:14 ↗ have some process water. Concrete batch plant operations does create some process water, and that

1:44:19 ↗ is controlled. There's some pH associated with it because you're looking at a little bit

1:44:23 ↗ of lime in there, making concrete, and there's CO2 sparging to reduce the pH down

1:44:28 ↗ to neutral. So that's the control that's required for that. We do operate under the

1:44:33 ↗ sand and gravel general permit that's issued by the Department of Ecology. We're in full

1:44:38 ↗ compliance with that permit. It's being renewed this year by Ecology. We'll be reissued another

1:44:43 ↗ new permit again at the end of the year. Hopefully we'll get one put together

1:44:48 ↗ by October. But again, we continually operate under that sand and gravel general permit. Is

1:44:53 ↗ that a yearly permit? No, it's a permit that is good for five years, and

1:44:59 ↗ every five years that gives Ecology an opportunity to review that permit and implement additional

1:45:05 ↗ controls if they see any. If new technologies come out, if new information comes out,

1:45:10 ↗ scientific information, then they implement that into standards in that permit. And all we do

1:45:16 ↗ is we just reapply for the permit every five years and reissue the permit. okay

1:45:22 ↗ thanks that that's all i had right thank you hicks well this uh this

1:45:28 ↗ is certainly uh new to me the this uh um zoning at this at

1:45:34 ↗ the same time you're you're using this for for mining so i appreciate your

1:45:40 ↗ indulgence with with my questions which uh because i need some education i think

1:45:45 ↗ um so i think my first question is for staff um and i know

1:45:51 ↗ you you talked about this a little bit but but please refresh my memory and

1:45:57 ↗ help me with this um because you you mentioned that there wouldn't be any more

1:46:03 ↗ mining and in isaac um but does changing the ic zone set a precedent um

1:46:09 ↗ or could it possibly set a precedent for making something like this

1:46:15 ↗ happen in the future with another piece of property? Does this affect

1:46:21 ↗ other properties or just this particular property? Well, the code amendment would

1:46:27 ↗ allow the processing of these concrete and asphalt in the IC zone,

1:46:33 ↗ which encompasses many properties, more than just this property. However, the request

1:46:39 ↗ would be to acknowledge only projects that currently operate would only

1:46:44 ↗ be allowed to have that use. So there aren't any others that I'm

1:46:50 ↗ aware of. And would they have to be in continuation since August 2nd,

1:46:56 ↗ 1999? Yes. Yes. Okay. And there is no other concrete asphalt recycling facility

1:47:02 ↗ in the city. So if the code amendment limits the IC zone to

1:47:08 ↗ continuation of what's been in effect since 1999, this would be

1:47:14 ↗ the only IC site where you could do the processing. Okay. So

1:47:20 ↗ it would be, it's a very, there would be no precedent for

1:47:25 ↗ this in any other part of the IC zone. Okay. That's correct.

1:47:31 ↗ Thank you. So the goal in changing this to, to, uh,

1:47:37 ↗ I see. Intensive commercial. Thank you. So the goal in changing to an intensive

1:47:43 ↗ commercial would be for some time in the future. So can you just tell

1:47:48 ↗ me why you want this done now? The City Council thought it should be

1:47:54 ↗ done now and so did Lakeside since the Council, many of the Council members

1:47:59 ↗ of course are still the Council members that dealt with the Hillside Development Agreement.

1:48:05 ↗ Some of you. remember that back from 2012. Staff is familiar with this

1:48:11 ↗ and they thought it has to be done and we shouldn't have an orphan

1:48:17 ↗ zone and an orphan use. So the appropriate time to do it was as

1:48:23 ↗ promptly as possible after the approval of the development agreement. I see. We've already

1:48:29 ↗ waited about a year and a half just purely out of consideration for

1:48:34 ↗ staff resources and commission and city council commitment to other projects. We didn't want this

1:48:40 ↗ to wait for four or five years and the city didn't either. So we're, you

1:48:45 ↗ know, we're doing it now because everybody is familiar with all of these issues. I

1:48:51 ↗ see. Thank you. Commissioner Solla? I thought it was a good presentation. It made sense.

1:48:56 ↗ And it looks like it's redeeming a responsibility that was identified in the development agreement

1:49:01 ↗ in the first place. So it's time to move on. thank you

1:49:07 ↗ commissioner long yes thank you mr chair um bill i appreciate your being around

1:49:13 ↗ for 35 years you know you got gray hair and i've been here 33

1:49:18 ↗ years in issaquah i'm losing hair but the question that i have you you

1:49:24 ↗ threw up a name cadman and we've seen cadman trucks running around the city

1:49:30 ↗ how what's the organization between cadman and lakeside they won entity -

1:49:35 ↗ Say Bill. - Bill Dempsey with Lakeside. No, what Cadman,

1:49:42 ↗ Years ago it was Lakeside Sand and Gravel there and it was owned by

1:49:47 ↗ the sisters of the brother that owns Lakeside Industries. And so when we bought

1:49:53 ↗ the pit back from the sisters, we didn't want to go back in the

1:49:59 ↗ concrete business. Who's we? Lakeside Industries. Oh, okay. So we sold Lakeside Sand and

1:50:04 ↗ Gravel's concrete plant to Cadman. Cadman Sand and Gravel. So they now lease,

1:50:10 ↗ I think it's five acres, five acres from us and they operate. They

1:50:16 ↗ buy gravel from us to make concrete. They lease space and they just

1:50:22 ↗ operate in our facility. Actually, it's a good relationship. They actually rent half

1:50:28 ↗ of our shop too. Okay, thank you. The other question I have

1:50:34 ↗ is where's the closest plant? Is it quite you said it's the only

1:50:39 ↗ one obviously we all know that so the next closest plant around the

1:50:45 ↗ Puget Sound area Where would that be? Maybe in Redmond Watson asphalt Redmond

1:50:51 ↗ Washington down the lake and the south end is there any south end

1:50:56 ↗ we would be going down to Covington or all the way down to

1:51:02 ↗ Auburn. And there's two in Seattle. We've got one in Fremont, and then

1:51:08 ↗ there's one in South Park that's owned by Icon Materials. Yeah, this is

1:51:13 ↗ very educational to me. You know, what's interesting is that if you go

1:51:19 ↗ out into Ballard, or if you go up the Ship Canal, you know,

1:51:25 ↗ there's quite a bit of industry there between the Fremont Bridge and... almost

1:51:30 ↗ all the way out to the locks, the government locks. I was surprised

1:51:36 ↗ years ago to learn that there is an asphalt plant, a lakeside asphalt

1:51:42 ↗ plant right there in Fremont. People always asked us about compatibility, you know,

1:51:48 ↗ of asphalt or concrete production with residential or other uses. I mean, the

1:51:53 ↗ Fred Meyer is there now. There are houses across the street. It really

1:51:59 ↗ surprised me that The plant just operates in the middle of other uses.

1:52:05 ↗ And Karen can tell you about out in Monroe where they've got a plant, you

1:52:10 ↗ know, they're like next to a shopping mall and a theater. And it's just that

1:52:16 ↗ they're they're clean and they're remarkably relatively quiet and I guess

1:52:21 ↗ most people appreciate the need to have this stuff located in the

1:52:27 ↗ urban areas just so the trucks aren't hauling great long distances from

1:52:32 ↗ the plants to the end uses. So it's been educational for me.

1:52:38 ↗ I suppose when we do the city council phase, we might have another site visit.

1:52:43 ↗ A lot of people like to go out there and actually see it because it's

1:52:48 ↗ kind of behind the trees there and you don't normally see it. So we've had

1:52:53 ↗ a number of trips out there and it's very interesting. That's a long answer to

1:52:58 ↗ your question. No, that's fine. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Morgan? i wish

1:53:03 ↗ i could think of some questions that the planning policy might ask or city council

1:53:08 ↗ might ask in order to prep you for it but i can't think of any

1:53:13 ↗ right now so thank you thank you sir um i have just a couple of

1:53:17 ↗ quick ones where where is the uh origin relative to this where is the origin

1:53:22 ↗ of the north fork of issaquah creek karen do you know it's probably easier to

1:53:27 ↗ show in another if you if you do have something that shows the the location

1:53:32 ↗ i'd appreciate it Yeah, well, basically off of

1:53:38 ↗ Black Nugget Road, let's see, Ariel of, all right. So this

1:53:43 ↗ is depicting North Fork of Issaquah Creek. If you can see

1:53:49 ↗ the blue line with the hand moving there. All right, and

1:53:55 ↗ it runs down through here. Okay. All right. So from further

1:54:00 ↗ up along. Mel's using the old-fashioned way, looking at the paper. There you go.

1:54:06 ↗ Jump, jump high. And this here is the processing area that we're showing in the

1:54:12 ↗ close-up. It looks, on that, with the color coding on that of the actual photograph,

1:54:17 ↗ it looks like it's the creek when it goes through there is, is there any

1:54:23 ↗ buffering at all once it gets onto your property? It looks kind of like... there

1:54:28 ↗ is buffering along the creek as it's on the property through here

1:54:34 ↗ okay do you get any uh any salmon up there at all

1:54:40 ↗ you know we do i personally haven't seen them myself but i'm

1:54:46 ↗ yeah okay um thank you actually has a deal with uh fish

1:54:52 ↗ and wildlife where they at appropriate times will discharge treated water

1:54:58 ↗ into the North Fork to maintain the water flow. And Lakeside has also

1:55:04 ↗ done a lot of planting, a lot of rehab of the North Fork

1:55:10 ↗ from the property all the way south to Lake Sammamish. So they've been

1:55:15 ↗ a good partner with Fish and Wildlife to try to maintain that habitat.

1:55:21 ↗ Thank you. Dave, my next question is for you. Without getting into

1:55:27 ↗ Webster's use of anachronism these days, negative impact? Yes. Give us a couple

1:55:33 ↗ of examples of when you were saying that there's this phrase, and I

1:55:38 ↗ forget, actually I didn't write it down, but it was in the city.

1:55:44 ↗ I mean, is it... Anything that would be, I mean, what exactly? Is it

1:55:50 ↗ in the eye of the beholder? Well, I guess to say it doesn't go further

1:55:56 ↗ in our code to say examples. Would that ultimately be determined by the council and

1:56:02 ↗ the mayor? I mean, if there were a challenge on the basis of something not

1:56:08 ↗ this, I'm not indicating that. But it's an interesting, because it's such a loaded phrase

1:56:14 ↗ that I just... I think we'd look at other policies in the comp plan

1:56:20 ↗ and the code to give us direction of what are negative impacts. They're identified. They're

1:56:25 ↗ referred to that. It's maybe common knowledge there's noise, glare, traffic, things that we've

1:56:31 ↗ addressed earlier this year. The things that we always address when we look at

1:56:37 ↗ developments. Okay. Negative impacts. I do have one more question and that is again

1:56:43 ↗ for the environmental, on the environmental thing, the water, after it's washed, after the

1:56:49 ↗ water is used to wash the aggregate from what I understand or the gravel,

1:56:55 ↗ it's pumped, it's not settled anymore. It doesn't go into settlement ponds, but I understand

1:56:59 ↗ that ultimately it's pumped up to a recharge site at the top of the hill?

1:57:04 ↗ - There's a couple of things that are done. One aspect of it is it

1:57:08 ↗ is recycled, and I can give that to Bill where he talks about how the

1:57:12 ↗ water is actually recycled in the washing process. And then any extra water that we

1:57:17 ↗ have in the process does get pumped up to additional settling ponds. - That's it,

1:57:21 ↗ that's fine. I just wanted to be clear on that. All right, at this

1:57:26 ↗ point, one more. The question that I have is that why are

1:57:32 ↗ we rezoning just part of the mining area and not the whole

1:57:38 ↗ thing? The rest of it has already been rezoned. Oh, it has.

1:57:43 ↗ The entire mine hillside was changed in January of 2013 to an

1:57:49 ↗ urban village. So this is all of the remaining lakeside property.

1:57:56 ↗ And maybe I should ask this dumb question. Why was it not

1:58:01 ↗ done back then? Because the process was just for the development agreement

1:58:07 ↗ and the development agreement was changing the uses of the hillside in

1:58:13 ↗ the future from mining to urban village, residential and commercial. And we

1:58:19 ↗ all agreed, the city and Lakeside all agreed that we would where

1:58:25 ↗ we were focusing on the area that would be redeveloped with new uses in

1:58:30 ↗ the future that should be the focus and that this secondary issue of continuation

1:58:36 ↗ of the existing uses was something we should come back to an address later

1:58:41 ↗ and that's actually in the development agreement that decision was made by the

1:58:47 ↗ city council on lakeside and approved by both parties as a contract to come

1:58:53 ↗ back and finish this piece because it's no change of use thank you questions

1:58:58 ↗ clarifications i'm going to ask a question of you and you david do we

1:59:04 ↗ need uh do we need a motion to uh i know this is a

1:59:10 ↗ community conference obviously but but what So you just need the recommend the recommendations

1:59:15 ↗ of the individual council observations. We don't need a motion on this. Okay. So with

1:59:21 ↗ that said, if you'd care to express your final opinion based on the presentation, that's

1:59:27 ↗ the presentations that have been given to us tonight. We'll just go around the around

1:59:33 ↗ the horn once more one more time. Commissioner Gaither. Okay. Thank you very much. Lakeside.

1:59:38 ↗ For me, it was very educational. It seems like you're a great partner

1:59:44 ↗ with the city and all of us here and provide an important service. And

1:59:50 ↗ as I understand this, this is sort of an IOU coming back. We are

1:59:56 ↗ now at later, and we're taking that step. So I don't have any problems

2:00:02 ↗ with what you brought forward. Thank you, sir. Yes, thank you. This was

2:00:08 ↗ a wonderful presentation and I appreciate all of the details and the mapping

2:00:13 ↗ and I have learned a lot tonight and I look forward to working

2:00:19 ↗ on this in the future. Thank you. Commissioner Schell? I'm good. Good job.

2:00:25 ↗ Thank you. Commissioner Lalz? Again, I share the sentiment of the other commissioner

2:00:30 ↗ and I'd like to add the city staff for preparing this presentation.

2:00:36 ↗ Again, it's very educational. When we moved into Issaquah

2:00:42 ↗ 33 years ago, all that we can see is

2:00:48 ↗ that lakeside, And now it's still there and you've always been an

2:00:54 ↗ icon as Issaquah and triple X was the other one too, but You're always

2:00:59 ↗ there way up there looking down at us, but anyway, I'm glad that we're

2:01:05 ↗ finalizing this, you know completing this this task to to convert that into IC

2:01:11 ↗ and thank you for the presentation Mr. Morgan. Yes. Thank you very much. Thank

2:01:17 ↗ for the presentation especially Mr. Faber, who once again did a great job. And

2:01:22 ↗ I would like to provide, I guess, some thoughts on this. In my mind, the

2:01:28 ↗ 10 items that are covered that were necessary, to me, there are four that are

2:01:34 ↗ the most important. Number four, the rezone is warranted because the proposed zoning in the

2:01:40 ↗ district is appropriate for reasonable development of the subject property, and I would agree with

2:01:46 ↗ that. Number five, the subject property is suitable for development in general conformance with zoning

2:01:51 ↗ standards under the proposed zoning district, and I would agree with that. Number six, the

2:01:57 ↗ rezone will not be materially detrimental to uses or property in the immediate vicinity of

2:02:02 ↗ the subject property, and I'd agree with that. And number seven, the rezone request is

2:02:08 ↗ consistent with the comprehensive plan, and I'd agree with that. on those main points and

2:02:14 ↗ the others well i think you've met all of those and so it sounds like

2:02:19 ↗ the reason is certainly appropriate i agree that it seems to me that that they

2:02:24 ↗ request is absolutely appropriate uh... and i think it sets a good precedent or even

2:02:30 ↗ though this is a unique facility in the in the city of this aqua it

2:02:35 ↗ still uh... sets it to me a very good precedent on how to deal with

2:02:40 ↗ something like this the city being in transition as it is from what essentially when

2:02:46 ↗ I moved here, not quite as long ago as Ray, but then the majority of

2:02:51 ↗ the city was blue collar workers in various trades. And so I think it's a

2:02:57 ↗ very appropriate way for us to keep this kind of facility in the city and

2:03:03 ↗ have it in full compliance with the code and all the work that's being done

2:03:08 ↗ by the city to accommodate growth that we're going to see, we are seeing and

2:03:13 ↗ we're going to see. So I completely support this as well. Okay, thank you. all

2:03:19 ↗ right thank you for your presentation all right thanks uh is there any other business

2:03:24 ↗ before we adjourn hey if you have anything we should know any locomotives coming down

2:03:29 ↗ the track that we uh need it i don't i'm sorry all right all right

2:03:34 ↗ fine well thank you very much my fellow commissioners for coming in tonight and with

2:03:39 ↗ that we will adjourn the meeting

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