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City Council Mobility & Infrastructure Committee Auto captions

Tuesday, May 14, 2024

6:30 PM · 50m 13s · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topic tracked across meetings:
2025-2030 Six-Year Transportation Improvement Program AB 8820 4/6
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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Minutes of April 10, 2024
packet pp.5–6
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 04-10-24 City Council Mobility & Infrastructure Page (1) Committee Minutes CITY OF ISSAQUAH City Council Mobility & Infrastructure Committee 6:30 PM Council Chambers, 135 E. April 10, 2024 MINUTES Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
4. AGENDA ITEMS
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2025-2030 Six Year Transportation Improvement Plan COM 0011
45 min · Gregory Lucas, Senior Transportation Engineer John Mortenson, Transportation Engineering Manager · packet pp.7–77
Topics: Transportation
Staff report:
The purpose of tonight’s Council Mobility and Infrastructure Committee meeting is to provide an opportunity for the Mobility and Infrastructure Committee to review, discuss, and provide feedback on the transportation infrastructure projects and programs proposed in the draft 2025-2030 Transportation Improvement Program.
0:06 uh welcome everyone I'm uh council
0:07 member Chris Ray and I'm going to call
0:09 to order the May 14th 2024 city council
0:13 mobility and infrastructure committee uh
0:15 with me say is Deputy council president
0:17 Barbara D Michelle and council member
0:19 Zach Hall um there are multiple public
0:23 uh comment opportunities at tonight's
0:25 meeting there will be a general public
0:27 comment opportunity at the beginning of
0:28 the meeting or you may make make public
0:30 comment after
0:32 presentation and Council question answer
0:35 um so members of the public May address
0:38 the council at this time at this time
0:41 even in person or virtually city clerk
0:44 do we have anyone uh online with us or
0:46 um not in the room chair Ray no one has
0:50 signed up uh prior to the meeting and we
0:53 have no virtual attendees at this time
0:55 all right then I'm going to skip forward
0:58 a little bit and go to the agenda for
1:00 this evening's meeting uh first order of
1:03 business is approval of the minutes uh
1:05 any objection to approving the minutes
1:07 from the April 10th 2024 meeting seeing
1:11 no objections the meeting minutes are
1:13 approved we have a single agenda item
1:16 for today's meeting it is Comm
1:19 0011 the 2025 to 2030 6-year
1:24 Transportation Improvement plan it's
1:26 going to be presented to us this evening
1:27 by Greg Lucas uh senior trans
1:29 Transportation engineer uh with support
1:32 from John Mortenson transportation
1:34 engineering manager so with that Greg
1:37 I'm going to turn it over to you thank
1:39 you for being
1:51 here all right hopefully you guys can
1:53 hear me okay uh good evening uh mobility
1:57 and infrastructure committee my name is
1:59 Greg Lucas and I'm an engineer in the
2:00 public works department I'm here to
2:03 present on behalf of the 25 to 2030
2:06 6-year Transportation Improvement
2:10 program John mortson is also available
2:13 on the
2:17 digitally uh the purpose of tonight's
2:20 presentation uh is to provide an
2:21 opportunity for this committee to review
2:23 to discuss and to provide feedback on
2:26 the transportation projects and programs
2:28 proposed in the draft Transportation
2:30 Improvement
2:33 program and tonight we are seeking
2:36 feedback from the committee on the
2:38 proposed Transportation
2:42 impr uh for a little bit of background
2:44 on tonight's presentation um every two
2:47 years the city adopts a six-year Capital
2:51 Improvement
2:52 plan this is a process where staff
2:55 reviews uh expenditures and revenues and
2:58 plans out projects for the next six
3:01 years projects include Transportation
3:03 but other asset
3:04 categories uh such as Parks facilities
3:07 and utilities are also
3:10 process the chapter in the capital
3:12 Improvement plan relating to
3:14 Transportation doubles as Improvement
3:17 program U however state law requires
3:20 agencies such as the city of is LA to
3:23 adopt a transportation Improvement
3:24 program every year by July
3:27 1st in years such as this where there is
3:30 no Capital Improvement program update we
3:32 need to adopt an updated Transportation
3:34 Improvement program as a
3:37 program um and at a high level the uh
3:40 Transportation Improvement program
3:41 identifies projects and programs uh
3:45 which phase are in uh whether it's
3:47 design or rideway acquisition
3:49 construction or planning um and either
3:53 identify secured or recently expected
3:55 funding sources and the amount um most
3:59 St and Federal grant opportunities
4:01 require projects to be in the
4:03 transportation Improvement
4:05 program um the master Mobility plan that
4:10 was adopted in 2021 uh this planning
4:13 document uh
4:15 is a foundation document used to help uh
4:18 the transportation Improvement program
4:20 with its guiding principles evaluation
4:23 uh criteria and the scoring in the
4:24 planning
4:26 document talk a little bit more about
4:28 that later on on
4:31 presentation this year uh we've
4:33 presented at three Transportation
4:35 Advisory board
4:36 meetings and once with the environmental
4:38 board to discuss the transportation
4:39 Improvement program and uh minor changes
4:42 to the project prioritization
4:44 process um and then during the uh
4:46 assembly of this year's Transportation
4:48 Improvement program uh the
4:50 administration was also considering
4:52 available funding sources both within
4:53 the city Only
5:01 um this slide has been used previously
5:04 it's intended to demonstrate how the
5:06 transportation Improvement program fits
5:08 not only within the capital Improvement
5:10 program uh but also with the policies
5:13 identified in the city's comprehensive
5:15 plan as a whole um projects in the
5:19 capital Improvement plan and
5:21 transportation Improvement program like
5:24 the goals and policies established by
5:26 many of the uh City Planning documents
5:29 such as the mobility master plan uh the
5:32 ongoing Transit study its plan strategic
5:41 plan uh the transportation Improvement
5:44 program has a variety uh project types
5:47 and programs within it there's annual
5:51 projects such as pavement Management
5:53 program and Ada
5:55 improvements there's projects underway
5:57 such as the Newport Way Maple the Sun
6:00 set ways Southeast
6:03 54900 improvements on Northwest samamish
6:07 Road multimodal improvements Juniper
6:11 Street centrala multimodal on any
6:14 Crossing name a few uh there's also
6:18 projects being worked on uh with Public
6:20 Safety in mind uh referred to here as
6:23 mandated projects a couple of those
6:24 include the landslide repair on Newport
6:27 Way which is in a permitting process
6:31 project to replace the retaining wall on
6:33 black Nugget Road behind redm
6:37 area there's also plans to retrofit a
6:40 bridge on
6:43 Gilman over I
6:48 believe the draft 2025 to 2030
6:52 Transportation Improvement has a few new
6:55 priority projects uh we're
6:58 proposing to
7:00 begin the planning and design a few
7:02 years out we'll get into greater detail
7:04 a little later and the projects that
7:06 have been identified but do not have
7:08 funding sources identified yet are the
7:10 long-term
7:12 project these projects could be included
7:21 in um when the mobility master plan was
7:23 implemented in 2021 it was used for over
7:27 100 projects based off The Guiding
7:30 principles and Associated scoring
7:32 criteria within each principle uh the
7:35 top scored projects were uh City's
7:38 priority and implemented or included in
7:42 that that Year's uh Transportation
7:44 Improvement
7:46 program projects that were not included
7:48 were recognized as future
7:51 Investments these are generally seen in
7:53 the back of all's Transportation
7:55 Improvement program identified as future
7:58 year projects
8:00 the development of this year's
8:02 Transportation impr Improvement program
8:04 began by evaluating if any changes were
8:06 needed to The Guiding principles of the
8:07 mobility master plan they review of
8:10 future year projects from the uh
8:12 previous year's
8:20 Transportation um so as I mentioned
8:21 earlier we we met three times with the
8:24 the tab this year to discuss the
8:26 transportation Improvement program and
8:29 the to select the projects in January we
8:32 gave a a high level
8:34 overview of kind of what the tip is and
8:36 the steps towards implementing it um
8:39 February we focused on The Guiding
8:41 principles evaluation criteria and
8:43 scoring of the mobility master plan uh
8:46 during this meeting with the tab um some
8:49 minor
8:50 changes uh were made um to the improve
8:54 mobility within isqua and promote
8:56 environment guiding
8:57 principles and then finally March we met
9:00 with the tab again review and discuss
9:02 the uh ration Improvement program and
9:05 the project that we're
9:08 at we also met with the environmental
9:10 board um this discussion was around the
9:14 promote environment guiding principle of
9:15 the mobility master plan and the updates
9:18 that were made to it from the February
9:19 tab
9:21 meeting uh the environmental board
9:23 provided some feedback to us and the
9:27 tab feedback list to here some it was
9:29 improving alignment with the Mobil the
9:31 two plans the mobility master plan and
9:34 the climate action plan then some
9:36 additional considerations for
9:37 environmental impacts of projects of the
9:42 criteria the environmental board gave us
9:46 a memo and that's attached to
9:51 this ultimately this process led us to
9:54 adding five projects to the
9:55 transportation impr Improvement program
9:58 uh there FR Front Street and Northwest
10:00 Dogwood intersection improvements uh
10:02 three Trails Crossing intersection study
10:05 East Sunset way improvements uh Corridor
10:08 study 220th half Southeast and Southeast
10:11 51st Street improvements and the
10:13 Citywide advant advaned signage
10:16 project um there were some other changes
10:18 to the transportation Improvement
10:20 program that can found in the staff
10:22 report as
10:28 well um two other consider to
10:30 considerations for me to mention tonight
10:32 regarding the development of this
10:33 Transportation Improvement program are
10:35 that the STA of was staff availability
10:37 and external funding
10:39 sources which go a long way towards
10:42 getting these projects through the
10:43 design and construction
10:45 processes we looked at
10:48 projects in the existing that tip and
10:51 projects that we wanted to add and to
10:54 make sure that staff wouldn't become too
10:55 busy and couldn't
10:57 Advance the projects uh this helped kind
11:00 of determine the capacity to add
11:02 projects and which years we could add
11:06 them and to implement these projects
11:09 Grant funds will be needed we
11:11 reviewed projects that um and and
11:14 funding sources that we are pursuing
11:16 currently and instead of adding projects
11:18 that would compete with our existing
11:20 projects we wanted to add projects that
11:23 could reach funding sources that
11:24 wouldn't
11:30 here are many of the funding sources out
11:33 there
11:35 um which you know cities utilized um
11:40 many of these
11:42 recently A lot of these are federal or
11:45 state and federal grants a lot of the
11:47 external funding also development
11:49 agreements that he has with developers
11:53 um and then our transportation project
11:55 also have a lot of local fund options uh
11:58 such as the new transport portation
11:59 benefit district sales tax impact fees
12:02 and
12:04 bond the new projects uh that we added
12:08 we'd like to potentially
12:10 pursue U Transportation impr Improvement
12:13 board funding that's for the Front
12:16 Street Northwest Dogwood intersection
12:18 improvements that would be through their
12:20 Urban arterial
12:22 program and another Grant which is not
12:25 listed here um is the Federal pway State
12:29 Improvement program we think the
12:32 Citywide Advanced sinus project could be
12:33 competive for
12:39 that I guess now I'll briefly describe
12:41 each project that was
12:43 added the years we'd like to begin them
12:46 I'll start with the Front Street and
12:47 Dogwood intersection
12:50 improvements uh we'd start design for
12:52 this project in
12:54 2028
12:57 um and this would evaluate the alignment
12:59 of the intersection resurface the street
13:02 uh like to build a traffic signal along
13:04 with some other improvements this is the
13:07 project that we'd like to the
13:09 transportation impr or Improvement board
13:11 funds with he Greg what I think we want
13:13 to do is for each of the when you hit
13:16 each project let's pause for a second
13:17 and see what kind of questions we might
13:19 have about that so when you get to the
13:21 end of this one pause and then we'll
13:22 we'll do question yeah I'm
13:24 ready questions on this one Council
13:27 number
13:29 uh so I was really happy to see this on
13:31 the list and um I'm really really
13:34 familiar with that intersection when you
13:36 say realign the
13:37 intersection um it has that kind of
13:39 strange dog leg that you know are are we
13:42 going to
13:44 actually bring those together or what
13:48 what does realign the intersection mean
13:49 there I mean I think we would look at
13:52 the best Poss you know closest thing we
13:53 could get to that you know that we don't
13:55 want to disrupt too much of the existing
13:59 improvements there so but yeah that's
14:01 the thought is kind of get them as close
14:03 to as
14:04 possible but it's kind of hard to give
14:07 too much of
14:08 an I think that's kind of the in that
14:12 reer that's a tricky intersection there
14:15 a few of these in
14:21 this any other questions on this one all
14:24 right bring them on
14:29 all right and um guess the next project
14:32 added was the second phase of a three
14:35 Trails Crossing project at Gilman and
14:39 Juniper um there was some previous
14:43 improvements to this intersection a few
14:45 years back but further improvements were
14:47 always
14:49 anticipated uh this project would start
14:51 as a planning study to help
14:53 identify how we could
14:55 further uh improve another one of these
14:58 unique intersections
14:59 um particularly the South leg of
15:02 this there's an opportunity here to
15:04 coordinate with the park staff
15:08 there's Central Public guard
15:14 identif questions on this one same same
15:17 sort of thing as the last one how is it
15:18 going to hang together but it's still
15:21 early so we look forward to that yep
15:29 uh and then here's another planning
15:31 study uh this one's on East Sunset way
15:34 uh from Front Street to the I90 limited
15:38 access there's been quite a bit of
15:40 public feedback at this location uh
15:43 whether it's for East West bike Lanes uh
15:46 parking pedestrian Crossing
15:50 improvements traffic issues of bus
15:53 transit issues um the congestion kind of
15:56 bifurcates Old Town here
15:59 and so with these all these competing
16:01 interests at this space we' start this
16:03 project out as a study and Outreach
16:05 effort to identify what these
16:08 improvements could be before jumping in
16:11 the
16:17 Des nothing on this one
16:22 okay all right 22th a Southeast and
16:25 Southeast 51st Street improvements um
16:29 this is a design phase that's being
16:31 proposed starting in year
16:34 2028 then there's a development proposed
16:37 on Southeast 51st
16:40 Street and some of our recent data shows
16:44 uh this routes popular among
16:46 non-motorized
16:48 users um when we begin the design of
16:50 this project we have an option to either
16:52 repurpose a distant two-way left turn
16:54 lane or kind of an interim bike solution
16:59 uh we could you know Design This to the
17:02 permanent four Street condition
17:03 identified in the street
17:05 standard this one would likely be
17:07 competitive for for non-motorized brants
17:09 we went that route
17:13 as questions nope
17:18 okay all right and the last project
17:20 added was the uh Citywide Advanced
17:22 signage project uh this project is new
17:27 and was identified by a newly formed
17:29 local Road uh safety
17:32 plan this safety plan looks at Collision
17:35 history and common characteristics that
17:37 uh the
17:39 collisions P the local Road Safety plan
17:42 found
17:44 that could reduce potential collisions
17:47 by implementing more advanced signage at
17:49 critical
17:51 curves for this project as possible we
17:53 could design and implement this uh with
17:55 City
17:56 resources it would also be competitive
17:59 for Highway Safety Improvement program
18:01 Grant it makes sense to
18:04 it more than just adding a few signs
18:07 here there so uh and during design we'
18:10 kind of make that
18:14 call Council
18:17 Michelle uh and I again I just like all
18:20 these new projects really well but this
18:22 one I was looking at 2029 and just since
18:26 it is a Safety project I was just
18:28 wondering if there's any way to
18:30 accelerate this or is this a project
18:33 that's um I know we need to do a study
18:36 first but um it just seems like 2029 is
18:40 a long way out there we're not actually
18:41 even getting the signs in 2029 it would
18:44 be even later after we've done the study
18:47 so uh this one seems a little bit more
18:49 urgent to me and I'm wondering I don't
18:52 know how relatively small this is in the
18:55 big picture but I'm just wondering if
18:56 there's a way to accelerate this one
19:00 it certainly seems possible to me
19:03 um something we can talk about uh and if
19:06 there is some more involved areas like
19:09 there could be some early winds get
19:11 those ones done and then maybe down the
19:13 line days of
19:15 that I'm just thinking about like
19:18 sequential bites that I've seen on
19:21 freeways where maybe
19:27 that oh um CC Hall
19:32 um so Ju Just to to clarify so is this a
19:38 kind of a anal or an evaluation of
19:41 our needs for advanced warning signs
19:45 generally or is it more about like
19:47 specific problem corners or curves that
19:50 we're seeing through data that's how we
19:53 kind of got to this project was through
19:55 the data the some of the Collision data
19:59 what I understand in the local Road
20:00 Safety found that a lot of the or some
20:03 of the accidents are from these tight
20:07 curves there's a
20:09 lck I see that uh engineering manager
20:13 John Mortenson turned on his camera John
20:14 did you have something you wanted to add
20:17 yeah I'll just add a little bit when we
20:19 did the local Road Safety plan kind of
20:21 like what Greg was saying we identified
20:24 characteristics of situations where
20:27 we're more likely to have accid
20:29 and we
20:32 found that improving adding some
20:36 advanced warning signs would reduce
20:38 accidents based on the data and this is
20:42 also something that's also an ongoing
20:44 effort that we do have a project in the
20:47 tip but we do still work on adding
20:50 advanced warning signs as we see
20:52 problems and an example of that is with
20:55 the safety bundle which was funded with
20:58 the arpa funds we're working on
21:00 improving a curb I think it's off
21:03 Mountain place if I remember right but
21:05 um it is something that is an ongoing
21:07 effort but we also want to identify this
21:10 as a potential for a grant and because
21:13 there's funding out there to makebe do
21:15 more than what we otherwise could
21:19 do Hall um followup number one that's
21:22 fantastic um and I loved how this is so
21:25 data informed in terms of project
21:27 selection so I guess my question now is
21:29 since this is 2029 anticipated design is
21:32 there anything in terms of being able to
21:35 capture the data necessary to make an
21:36 informed decision about where signs
21:38 should go that we should be doing now to
21:40 prepare for that or do we feel like our
21:41 data capab capabilities are are um kind
21:45 of Meet the moment for this is there
21:46 anything we should be doing sooner
21:48 rather than later prepare for
21:52 this I'd say the data and the analysis
21:55 that we did as part of the local road
21:58 safety plan is the first step and as we
22:01 get accident data each year just keep
22:04 evaluating and updating the roads safety
22:06 plan in order to see what changes
22:11 and be more
22:15 proactive okay so it really is accident
22:17 data that would be driving this then not
22:19 necessarily like anything we'd be
22:21 getting from its
22:22 or right yeah okay thanks
22:29 okay I have the I have I have the uh I
22:30 don't understand
22:32 question um when we're talk about
22:34 Advanced signage does the adjective
22:37 Advance describe where it is in the road
22:39 or that it is an advanced technology
22:42 where it is okay I was because I was
22:45 thinking well this is cool this is
22:46 Advanced signage this is this isn't just
22:48 everyday signage this is but it's it's
22:51 it's we're going to signage before a
22:53 hazardous area got it thank you yep
22:57 [Laughter]
23:04 all right Greg I'll see if I can find a
23:06 special sign okay I appreciate that
23:08 flashing is
23:09 good
23:11 yeah all right uh the options for
23:14 tonight's committee meeting are to
23:16 modify uh the transportation Improvement
23:18 program or to make no changes to it and
23:22 recommend the full city council set the
23:24 public hearing for the city council
23:27 meeting on June
23:33 can we do we have time to do that so uh
23:38 setting the meeting for June 3rd would
23:40 mean the council would have to take
23:42 action ahead of June 3D right C clerk
23:46 looking to
23:47 you sorry chair uh no I believe the
23:51 public hearing would be
23:52 said uh for the June 3r council meeting
23:56 so setting the public hearing doesn't
23:57 require action
23:59 correct
24:05 okay oh okay no no thank you all right I
24:09 I'm I'm good thanks carry
24:15 um right and so the administration's
24:18 recommendation uh is for the approval of
24:21 a resolution adopting that 30 station
24:25 Improvement at the special
24:39 you want to hit the uh calendar of
24:41 events here yeah timing and next steps
24:44 next steps for the transportation
24:46 Improvement program would be the public
24:48 hearing set for June 3rd and the
24:50 ultimate adoption on June
24:53 24th
24:54 uh the city is mandated to adopt its
24:58 portation Improvement program by July
25:01 1st after it's adopted the staff will
25:04 sub it
25:06 dat by
25:08 31st metal
25:14 de okay any um any more questions for
25:18 Greg and
25:19 John council member Hall thank you um
25:23 two clarifying questions first is um I I
25:27 think I understand the environmental
25:30 board's feedback but I don't I think I
25:33 would actually I would like you to kind
25:35 of walk us through a little bit more the
25:37 paragraph that came after that in terms
25:38 of the administration's response the
25:41 environmental board feedback and and
25:44 and um where not to make changes to the
25:47 to the tip like selection process and
25:49 stuff like that could you walk us
25:50 through a little bit more about how the
25:51 administration chose to respond or
25:54 not feedback of the environmental board
25:57 all right we got the feedback back at
25:58 the
25:59 meeting follow it up with a
26:03 memo their
26:10 feedback went
26:16 through because they were they were
26:18 responding a lot to what the have made
26:32 yeah all added just a couple items on
26:35 the environmental board's feedback uh
26:38 the intent of the feedback we felt like
26:41 the process was already incorporating
26:44 but maybe the method of going about it
26:46 so some of the criterias that the
26:49 environmental board wanted to be part of
26:52 the selection process were actually
26:55 already considered but in other parts of
26:58 the scoring criteria not the promote
27:00 environment criteria and so that was an
27:04 example of something where the
27:06 environmental board gave feedback but we
27:09 felt like the mobility master plan
27:12 selection process already took into that
27:15 and that was about promoting
27:17 transportation that supports Central
27:20 esqua essentially and some of the
27:23 feedback that we also received didn't
27:26 pertain to the tip but it to how we
27:29 Implement Transportation projects such
27:32 as construction materials and those are
27:34 things that we made note of to consider
27:38 as we implement the tip but they
27:41 weren't comments that pertained to how
27:44 we develop the
27:46 tip okay thank you yeah that first part
27:49 helped clear up some of the the memo in
27:52 my mind so the implementation feedback
27:54 certainly that's not something that
27:56 really influences this but you're saying
27:59 some of the feedback on criteria is
28:01 actually already accounted for in the
28:03 mobility master plan not yeah not the
28:07 other plan not this plan yeah at the
28:09 environmental board we we discussed the
28:11 promote environment section of the
28:12 mobility master plan um but there's
28:15 other aspects of the climate action plan
28:17 that kind of go beyond just that one
28:20 section
28:22 of maybe next last month for us identify
28:26 which
28:29 to bring more than just that promote
28:30 environment bring
28:35 anything or maybe even asking them what
28:38 they'd like to see could be helpful too
28:40 yeah um okay thank you um and then the
28:44 second question I had if that's okay
28:45 unless someone
28:47 else um was the last one that I had
28:50 emailed in so if I remember correctly
28:52 last year um we had a very
28:56 similar similar options at the end of
28:59 the memo that said like modify it note
29:01 that the impact of modifying means that
29:03 we'll we won't meet the deadline or we
29:06 just pass it as it is and we had just I
29:09 think we had noted it as a committee and
29:11 we had also said well it's kind of a
29:13 cleanup year
29:14 any so we'll have kind of a broader
29:17 conversation the next year so I think I
29:19 understood your response but I'm
29:20 wondering if you could walk us through
29:22 should we think of this as a problem
29:25 that it's coming to us at a time where
29:28 if we want to make any changes perhaps
29:30 there's not a lot of a flexibility to
29:32 then pass it on time and also now I'm
29:34 remembering there even any impact to not
29:37 passing it on time so maybe you could
29:39 just comment on
29:42 rambling I'll go ahead and take this one
29:45 and then if Greg if you have anything to
29:47 add to it you can I guess the first one
29:50 is there is no consequence for not
29:53 adopting it on time we we don't want to
29:55 be in a habit of missing the deadline
29:57 but but during covid we adopted in
30:00 October and I specifically emailed the
30:02 state and asked them and they said well
30:05 there's um no consequence for not doing
30:09 it on time so um that said we don't want
30:12 to get in the habit of not adopting it
30:13 on time and I guess in terms of how we
30:18 go about developing the
30:21 tip that there are some trade-offs we
30:23 could take it to the mobility and
30:26 infrastructure committee earlier
30:28 but that would probably also mean less
30:30 touch points with the transportation
30:32 Advisory Board um and so the schedule we
30:36 came up with and we're open to changing
30:39 it but for this year we wanted to really
30:42 work heavily with the tab and come to
30:45 you with a very well thought out tip but
30:49 there is time to make changes to it now
30:52 we generally try and make less changes
30:55 during these even-year updates than we
30:57 do when we do the CIP because when we're
30:59 updating the CIP the city's able to look
31:02 at all of its Revenue sources all of its
31:05 potential projects um so that's one of
31:09 the reasons why we don't want to try and
31:11 meddle with it too much but we
31:14 definitely do have time to make
31:17 modifications if the committee wanted to
31:20 make changes to
31:22 it I just I wanted to underscore that hi
31:25 um Deputy City administrator Andrea
31:27 Snider uh there is plenty of time to
31:30 make changes and we uh we have been
31:33 having lots of conversations with tab
31:35 the transportation Advisory board but we
31:37 are here to ask for your feedback so if
31:40 you have changes that you would like us
31:41 to make we certainly can include those
31:44 in um the tip
31:47 update all right um thank you both um
31:51 for the clarification I think I just saw
31:53 in the memo that it said it would be
31:55 adopted past the deadline and so it's
31:57 kind of out a little bit but maybe maybe
32:00 this was copied from the previous memo
32:03 yeah we it's you know it's miday um we
32:07 like to have it adopted by July 1st that
32:10 still leaves us uh quite a bit of time
32:13 if Council wanted us to completely
32:15 overhaul and revamp everything in the
32:17 tip that might be a little hard to do
32:20 that by the July deadline but certainly
32:22 if you have a couple of projects you
32:24 want us to look at timelines or make
32:27 changes
32:28 uh to then um that's exactly why we're
32:31 here tonight is to understand what your
32:32 feedback is and um to make the changes
32:35 that you would like us to
32:38 make and just real quick before I forget
32:41 um thank you for being so intentional
32:43 about reaching out to the transportation
32:45 Advisory board so many times I think
32:46 it's the
32:50 right um so I one one maybe it's two
32:53 questions but the five projects are all
32:56 2028 202 9 which to me means they're
33:00 probably Beyond um our known funding
33:02 window do we have any funding lined up
33:04 for these five projects or is it uh
33:07 future funding
33:10 opportunities uh yeah uh I think the
33:14 actual Transportation Improvement and
33:17 out sells it out but yeah we got um a
33:20 lot of them our impact fees and looking
33:22 at projected
33:25 revenues where we think what we have
33:28 available also some of you know the
33:31 grants that we've identified we're
33:33 assuming we get
33:34 those part of this
33:38 St yeah no I that's what kind of what I
33:41 was thinking but it kind of actually
33:43 it's it was a setup question because the
33:45 second one is if we change the dates and
33:47 the timing of it what does that do to
33:49 our funding model is that then a kind of
33:52 a does it I I don't know how closely
33:54 we've kind
33:55 of budgeted some of these other things
33:59 so I would say for some of the projects
34:03 the the ones we pursuing the grants
34:06 those ones are hard to move forward
34:08 because we're kind of on their schedule
34:11 for those grants
34:13 so are a little tougher to
34:16 move some of those the planning ones I
34:19 think we have got $1,000 do that those
34:22 are easier to move U and we're assuming
34:26 half time for those
34:29 we wanted to we if we didn't have staff
34:32 availability to do those we'd have to
34:34 get a
34:39 consultant right great uh can I add to
34:42 that oh please do okay thanks um
34:46 certainly Council determines the budget
34:48 for the projects that we do Council
34:51 approves the transportation Improvement
34:53 uh plan so all that said if there are
34:57 projects that you want us to move around
34:59 uh we would love to hear about that this
35:01 evening and then we may need some time
35:03 to take a look at that see what um is
35:07 feasible uh within the resources that we
35:09 have both staff and dollars wise if
35:11 there's other things we need to move
35:13 around as a result but if Council States
35:15 uh strongly that something is a priority
35:18 uh over other things then we certainly
35:20 want to hear that information and uh
35:23 we'll do what we can to uh meet that
35:25 priority great thanks I appreciate that
35:28 right any other uh
35:30 questions I don't see any um okay
35:34 um so we're another public comment
35:37 opportunity uh anybody uh online there
35:40 city clerk chair Ray we have uh nobody
35:44 online at the time
35:46 okay don't see anybody in the
35:48 room all right so we're gonna we're
35:50 going to move past that we're going to
35:51 go into providing some feedback um so
35:55 the direction that is being asked for is
35:59 uh feedback on uh whether the proposed
36:02 uh Transportation improvements the
36:04 project mix the new projects the timing
36:06 and the funding
36:08 strategy uh makes sense uh who wouldd
36:11 like to get
36:15 started Hall thank you yeah I will um go
36:20 first as I type out my last note so I
36:23 don't foret it
36:30 okay um I think yeah for the most part
36:32 I'm happy with kind of mix the projects
36:34 um that
36:36 you've got here uh the new projects and
36:39 in existing ones and annual ones um it
36:42 seems like the newer project projects
36:44 are really focused on pedestrian and
36:46 bike facilities um intersection
36:50 improvements things competitive for
36:52 grant funding as you highlighted and
36:55 then also things that are really
36:56 informed by data which I think are all
36:58 um good things I last year as we were
37:00 kind of cleaning up the tip this
37:03 committee said we really want to make
37:05 sure we take a hard look at our
37:07 transportation projects that we have a
37:09 healthy balance between things that are
37:11 car F focused and things that are multi
37:13 Mobility Focus um I went through all of
37:17 the projects and assigned little tallies
37:19 for whether I thought it benefited cars
37:22 or if it benefited multimodal system or
37:25 if it benefited both or if if it was
37:27 more other um so this is all subjective
37:32 um my own criteria but it seemed like it
37:34 was fairly balanced for projects
37:36 benefiting multimodal system it was 18
37:39 projects benefiting cars it was 20 kind
37:42 of other were six that does not add up
37:44 to the number the total number of
37:45 projects some were kind of benefited
37:47 both especially when it had intersection
37:49 improvements I kind of thought that
37:51 benefited both so again I I think
37:52 there's a really good balance there I
37:54 think we can tell our community and tell
37:57 Transportation Advisory Board the
37:58 environmental board that yes this is a
38:00 really good um mix of projects
38:05 um I think it's hard to evaluate whether
38:10 this is the right funding strategy for
38:11 things in 2028
38:13 2029 I like I'll caveat that um I think
38:18 identifying that they would be good
38:20 candidates for state and federal Grant
38:22 dollars is good um but any of the other
38:27 kind revenues that exists there are
38:30 all our best guess right so I don't know
38:33 necessarily how to provide feedback on
38:35 that part except to say you know that
38:37 will evolve year over-ear right as it as
38:40 it gets closer to it as we identify new
38:41 sources as it just becomes clear picture
38:44 so um I did want to ask a couple
38:48 things well I guess first let me just
38:50 wrap up the from my question I'm glad
38:54 that we were so intentionally involved
38:56 with uh hardboards and commissions I'm
38:58 glad that we do have the time um to make
39:01 changes not necessarily that I'd like to
39:03 make changes but just that we have a
39:04 process in place that would allow
39:06 Council to do so so it seems like we do
39:08 and we're in a good place so I
39:10 appreciate
39:11 um first thing I wanted to bring up was
39:15 on all of the project Pages we can very
39:17 easily see if this is part of a
39:20 particular Master planning document this
39:22 project came from the mobility master
39:24 plan this project came from the Walk and
39:26 Roll plan but not the future projects
39:29 kind of the longer term projects so I
39:31 was wondering if it might be possible to
39:33 identify if those came from a particular
39:36 plan um could that be listed in kind of
39:39 the future years pages I don't know if
39:42 that would be a lot of work I don't
39:44 necessarily feel super strongly that if
39:47 it's a lot of work that it happened
39:49 before we adopt it but at least at some
39:51 point it would make sense for our
39:54 visibility of knowing how well we're
39:55 doing with the mobility master plan but
39:56 then also Community
39:59 fail the only other thing I wanted to
40:03 ask about was one of the projects I had
40:05 asked about was
40:10 tr43 was the Newport Way sr900 at 12th
40:14 Avenue Northwest bicycle and pedestrian
40:16 improvements so this is like the area
40:18 between skate park and
40:21 the bus station or the transit center um
40:25 I actually every every time on the way
40:28 back from Council I drive this place
40:30 back home now and that area is super
40:32 dangerous now and people turning left
40:34 onto sr900 going west um so and bikers
40:39 going by and pedestrians going by it's
40:41 is really hard and there's a really
40:43 highly used skate park right there too
40:45 so I'm very in favor of that project
40:47 being in there um it seems like we have
40:51 some additional leftand turn capacity
40:55 coming with tr 22 and that's eastbound
40:59 um Newport but not necessarily where
41:03 this project is which is westbound
41:04 Newport um and it's just something I've
41:06 noticed I don't I'm not necessarily
41:08 asking for a change it's just something
41:10 I've noticed is all the way to the
41:12 beginning actually all the way to Target
41:14 from sr900 it'll be completely backed up
41:17 on cars people blocking the
41:19 intersections um so people can't get up
41:22 the mountain over by tibits Park too so
41:25 just something I've noticed it might if
41:26 it if it's not existing somewhere in the
41:28 tip at might be word thinking about in
41:31 the future
41:36 um then the only other oh no that was it
41:40 those are my comments so I think from a
41:41 high level well done and
41:44 think Deputy council
41:49 president yeah excuse me let me get this
41:52 a little closer there we go um
41:57 well I loved all of the new projects
41:59 every single one I thought oh they've
42:01 really identified where we need to make
42:04 improvements and uh you know my favorite
42:07 is that one on Dogwood but uh the one on
42:10 uh Juniper and uh Gilman yes you know um
42:16 I am wondering if it would be
42:18 appropriate to share with the full
42:20 Council some of our Collision
42:22 information it would be interesting to
42:24 know just how dangerous some of these
42:26 inter sections might be just a thought
42:29 uh going into the future um I also
42:32 noticed when I was going through the
42:33 list that there have been projects
42:35 removed because we got grant funding for
42:38 them and um there was like three I think
42:42 identified that were removed and again I
42:44 thought that might be information that
42:46 the full Council would like to know that
42:48 hey look these were taken off because we
42:50 got some Highway um grant funding for
42:54 those projects so I thought that was
42:56 very interesting
42:58 um I think that this is ready to go to
43:00 the Council on June the 3 I just do have
43:04 uh you know this little tiny tiny tweak
43:07 would be if we move the starting year of
43:10 that
43:11 r97 up a little bit but um I understand
43:15 the explanation that was given and uh
43:18 the fact that it's an ongoing project
43:20 makes sense to me as well um it's it
43:23 seems like sort of a no-brainer that
43:25 some of these um uh hard curves and
43:28 things could be signed pretty quickly
43:31 and we don't have to wait for a study to
43:33 know that they're that they're dangerous
43:35 so um but those are my thoughts
43:37 excellent work again I just every time
43:40 transportation comes in front of us we
43:42 get a really good report with a lot of
43:44 thought behind it I agree with council
43:47 member raal that the touches with the
43:49 tab and the environmental board were
43:52 were well worth the time uh and the
43:54 feedback there was really good to read
43:56 so thank you for that as well uh so
43:59 that's those are my comments I
44:01 appreciate those and I want to dig into
44:03 the timing of
44:05 97 um and and this is this is the only
44:08 one that I've heard of the five new ones
44:11 any kind of U material change and so I
44:13 want to get us aligned on do we think we
44:16 should Define being at 2930 or do we
44:20 want to suggest or ask staff to assess
44:24 the uh feasibility of moving it moving
44:27 it up Council M Delle I guess I guess my
44:31 question would be um if if it as
44:35 described perhaps this is just fine the
44:37 way it is I'm looking at Andrea to maybe
44:40 tell us whe whether it would actually
44:42 make any difference if it's an ongoing
44:44 project if we Chang the timeline in this
44:47 it would still be an ongoing project
44:49 right and so I don't know that we're
44:52 really making any substantial change if
44:54 we ask for it to be accelerated
44:57 so um while it is an ongoing project I
45:01 think um if it's something that uh
45:05 Council feels strongly about it's better
45:07 to have it reflected in the tip as you
45:10 would like to see it and so um because
45:13 we use that as the basis for budgeting
45:15 and work plans Etc so um if that's
45:18 something that this committee feels
45:20 strongly that we should uh go back and
45:23 sharpen our pencils and see how we can
45:25 try to move that project up then um then
45:29 we will absolutely do
45:32 that oh Council M do Michelle and then
45:34 council member Hall oh okay then I think
45:37 we should do it all right council member
45:40 Hall I'm curious what the effect of that
45:42 would be because it doesn't have a table
45:44 for funding there it just says like
45:45 $2,000 annual so would the effect of
45:48 that be some increase from $2,000 and
45:52 then trying to find makeup annually
45:55 amongst the other projects
45:58 um it it would probably include trying
46:01 to find the budget for it as you know
46:04 it's a planning document not a budget at
46:06 this point and so um we would we would
46:09 try to figure out a way to fund it and
46:11 it might mean maybe uh as we draft the
46:14 budget um trying to find uh cost savings
46:18 elsewhere I see our transportation
46:20 manager John Mortenson has his hand
46:24 raised yes this project would be a great
46:27 candidate for
46:29 bott's Highway Safety um grant that they
46:32 have or hsip and the next call for
46:36 projects will be in
46:38 2026 and I think those funds would be
46:41 available towards the end of 2026 and I
46:44 don't know timeline if that's still too
46:48 far out or if that's something the
46:49 committee would be okay with if we put
46:51 it in to begin in
46:55 2026 and that would also help with the
47:01 funding yeah I mean from my perspective
47:03 but also let me ask a dumb question does
47:06 if it's it has to do with highways does
47:07 that mean it's just relevant to putting
47:10 up Advanced Signs near highways or how
47:13 does that work no it's just the name of
47:15 the federal program that they have it
47:17 broken out between two competitions one
47:20 for cities and one for counties and they
47:23 rotate where cities do even years and
47:26 counties do odd years
47:28 and we actually applied for some funds
47:31 and haven't heard the results but we
47:33 focused on pedestrian Crossings with the
47:35 last Grant
47:36 application
47:38 okay all right so what I think I heard
47:41 and I agree with is um asking staff to
47:44 to look at the impact of moving the what
47:47 is it like $1.2 million doish um see if
47:51 we can move that forward maybe tying it
47:53 to the grant cycle
47:54 that uh John would was just uh speaking
47:57 to and and then what the impact might be
48:00 on other um other initiatives and and
48:03 then we can um discuss that with the
48:07 full
48:08 Council um but other than that that was
48:10 the only thing that I mean I I'd like to
48:12 say I have all sorts of great insights
48:14 that weren't already talked about but I
48:16 don't so that was the only thing that I
48:17 heard that was sort of hanging out there
48:19 that I wanted to to drive closure on um
48:24 anything else um that we so we're we're
48:29 we're making minor modifications to the
48:31 Improvement plan relative to um
48:36 9797 um we asking at least to assess the
48:40 viability of moving it forward in the uh
48:42 the timeline other than that is there
48:44 anything else we're looking for in terms
48:45 of change I didn't see hear of any and
48:48 so and I think we are good with um
48:51 setting a public hearing for the Council
48:53 on June 3D and then looking for um
48:58 um action on that before the end of
49:02 June um not even going to do a vote
49:05 because I think we are completely in a
49:07 raging agreement
49:08 right okay and so uh this is something I
49:11 think
49:12 uh um we we put on regular business um
49:16 down the road and I look into to you
49:20 Greg do you and have what you guys need
49:24 to to get this ready for the
49:27 um June 3rd public hearing I do yes PR
49:31 97 should have a table
49:35 so no it's not it's missing
49:40 so the uh the the line item was up in
49:44 the big table on the top with the with
49:46 the data but um okay well let me uh look
49:49 back here at our
49:51 agenda what's
49:53 that yeah it was a bargain okay that is
49:57 um that was our last agenda item any uh
50:00 announcements um from the committee no
50:03 all right we're adjourned at 7:20 uh oh
50:07 anything else nope all right we're
50:08 adjourned at 7:20 thanks everybody