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Wednesday, March 29, 2023

6:00 PM · 1h 26m
Topics tracked across meetings:
Transit Plan 2/3
Capital Improvements Plan (CIP) Criteria (I) ID 0804 4/4
Section
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of February 22, 2023
packet pp.3–4
Staff report:
CITY OF ISSAQUAH Transportation Advisory Board 6:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. February 22, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah
2b
Minutes of Special Meeting on February 16
packet pp.5–7
Staff report:
- Transportation Advisory Board (TAB) feedback: o Identified resources should include long-term maintenance costs of the capital asset. o The board felt that the environmental criteria was not explicit enough and could include some contradictory grading as projects could have a negative
4. REGULAR BUSINESS
4a
Transit Plan Update
Information · Thomas Valdriz, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.9–10
Topics: Transportation
Staff report:
At the March 22nd Transportation Advisory Board (TAB) meeting, the Administration will provide an update on public participation efforts related to the Transit Study, including the Transit Study Open House Event that was held on March 21st, 2023. Staff will also provide a quick demonstration of the Transit Study’s online survey and web map tools, which will allow Board members and other members of the public to provide feedback on ways to improve transit accessibility throughout the City.
4b
Capital Improvements Plan (CIP) Criteria (I)
Emily Moon, Public Works Director · packet pp.11–21
Topics: Budget
Staff report:
The purpose of this memo is to summarize the changes made to the project selection criteria for the 2024-2029 Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) in response to feedback received by City advisory boards and the City Council.
5. REPORTS
5a
Board Work Plan
packet pp.23
Staff report:
Items Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun NW Sammamish Rd Non-Motorized Project Intro ITS Plan Projects Transit Plan Update Gap Analysis Issaquah Boards Summit Special Meeting Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) Criteria Projects Transit Shuttle Proposal Draft Contract Open Public Meetings & Public Records Act Training
5b
Staff Report
5c
Chair Report
0:01 all right uh good evening everyone I'd
0:04 like to welcome you all to the regular
0:06 monthly well no this is a special
0:08 meeting we
0:09 um rescheduled it the regular one from
0:11 last week to this week uh of the meeting
0:13 of the transportation Advisory Board my
0:15 name is Cynthia Crest I'm currently
0:17 serving as the chair and before we begin
0:19 I do want to acknowledge that we have
0:22 lost our esteemed Isabel
0:25 um she's moved on to other opportunities
0:26 so our staff liaison uh Isabel is no
0:31 wonder with the City of Issaquah and um
0:33 we all wish her well and we'll miss her
0:36 for sure
0:37 um tonight we are in the capable hands
0:39 of Emily about work
0:41 it works during John Mortensen the
0:45 transportation engineering manager uh
0:48 and I want to thank you guys for that
0:51 you're ever to make this as smooth as
0:53 possible and we'll just take a moment
0:54 and let Emily talk about the future of
0:57 the staff position yeah love to thank
1:00 you so I am um also very thankful for
1:04 the good work that Isabel did
1:08 um being a scaffolding one is an
1:10 important job for City staff member
1:13 um and so we try to make those
1:16 appointments in a thoughtful way and I'm
1:19 uh really excited to tell you that we
1:23 have made another appointment for the
1:25 reasons so hopefully this is this is the
1:28 only meeting where you get to see the
1:30 John Emily Duo show
1:33 um piecing it together and we have asked
1:37 John Larson friend uh who is our
1:40 transportation program coordinator hi
1:42 John
1:43 uh if he would be willing to serve and
1:46 I'm also very happy to tell you that
1:49 John asks as well and that makes a big
1:53 difference he's very eager
1:55 um to work with all of you he's very
1:58 passionate about Transportation
2:01 um he's uh plain and increasing role
2:04 even in the region as he develops his
2:08 Network and his knowledge and so we're
2:12 very very glad that he's part of our
2:14 team and we look forward to all the good
2:17 work that he will do with you so John's
2:20 here virtually tonight thank goodness
2:22 because he's under the weather too so we
2:25 don't want him here in person
2:27 um just to get introduced and in a
2:29 second I'm going to ask him if he could
2:31 just give us the you know quick quick
2:34 bio to refresh your memories around his
2:36 background
2:37 and then uh he will assume the
2:42 responsibilities of The Possession for
2:44 next month's meeting and in between
2:46 beginning some training and working with
2:48 the tap leadership to kind of talk about
2:51 expectations meeting management and all
2:54 those good things
2:56 so John you want to give your your
2:59 background spiel
3:01 yeah absolutely
3:02 uh yeah I've been feeling a little weird
3:04 today so just wanted to to make sure
3:07 that I didn't pass anything
3:09 um so yeah I am John Larson's friend
3:12 um I should know most if not all of you
3:14 you're all a very small in my in my
3:17 screen so I can't tell exactly who's
3:19 there but um yeah I I've had the
3:21 pleasure of presenting to you of you all
3:24 a few times to this body and uh it's
3:26 always such a great conversation so I'm
3:27 very excited uh to come aboard a little
3:30 bit of background about me hopefully
3:32 quick quick maybe quick uh
3:35 I'm a Pacific Northwest Native I was
3:37 born and raised in Portland uh but I
3:39 have lived in the midwest in Los Angeles
3:41 so I have some experience around the
3:43 country I attended the University of
3:45 Oregon uh their community and Regional
3:47 planning master's program graduated in
3:49 2021. so I was a pandemic student so we
3:52 can talk about that sometime I moved to
3:55 Seattle in late 2021 and uh was hired at
3:59 the city uh thereafter
4:02 at the city of the transportation
4:03 program coordinator uh this position was
4:06 created to try to bring a neighborhood
4:08 shuttle to Issaquah which we'll talk
4:10 about next month
4:12 um other projects that I I'm in charge
4:15 of include the trip uh
4:17 Action Program traffic calming programs
4:20 guac Mountain non-motorized Improvement
4:22 project and now the table liaison so
4:25 yeah it's great to be here I'm really
4:26 excited to be with you in person next
4:29 month and a whole bunch of months maybe
4:31 years after that so thanks everybody
4:35 great thank you
4:38 welcome welcome yay it's very exciting
4:41 thanks so thanks Emily for walking us
4:43 through that that's great I had a good
4:45 conversation with John at the transit uh
4:48 plan Community town hall and I'm really
4:52 excited to have it on okay
4:54 terrific thank you
4:57 okay well let's uh we'll move along and
5:00 the next we have the minutes I'm seeking
5:01 approval of the regular February months
5:03 and minutes and the February 16th
5:05 special joint session minutes by
5:07 unanimous consent as presented
5:11 hearing no objection the minutes are
5:14 approved as presented
5:17 uh that brings us to the regular
5:20 business oh I'm sorry public comment do
5:23 we have anybody interested in making
5:25 them a comment
5:27 I'm looking to see if anyone's online
5:29 I'm not seeing anyone
5:31 okay well I'm gonna go ahead and
5:35 close a couple comment then
5:37 um and
5:39 brings us to regular business uh and
5:42 the first iPhone agenda is a Transit
5:44 client update someone turn that over to
5:46 Thomas and then
5:49 I have a couple comments to make before
5:51 we move to the next item so after Thomas
5:54 goes well I'll
5:56 segue to the next as after that uh
6:00 Thomas are you ready
6:05 we can't hear you we can see hear me now
6:14 can you hear me no we can yes thank you
6:17 okay great
6:19 awesome uh thanks uh for the opportunity
6:22 to present to you all today
6:24 um I wanted to just provide a update on
6:28 how the transit studies going and just
6:31 sort of talk about uh how Outreach has
6:35 been going and then I just wanted to
6:36 briefly touch on some ways that you all
6:40 can provide some feedback right now
6:44 um yeah so uh Vice chair uh maidel had
6:49 mentioned uh we had an open house uh so
6:51 that was last week I'll briefly touch on
6:53 that uh and then we have a online survey
6:56 and a web map that has been created
6:59 which will be open uh for another week
7:02 or so so it's been open for about a
7:04 month I'll briefly sort of talk about uh
7:08 some high level summary statistics of
7:11 what we've seen so far and then I'll
7:13 talk about next steps
7:16 so uh you know we kicked off this
7:19 project uh in Fall so since then we've
7:25 developed a project website we've done
7:28 several social media posts uh we
7:31 conducted an open house last week
7:34 and we have a web map and online survey
7:37 that is currently active to date we've
7:40 reached out to 24 so actually we've
7:44 reached out to like 70 organizations and
7:46 I've spoken with 24
7:48 organizations around the city
7:53 our goal is to really try to get diverse
7:55 voices for the transit studies so the
7:58 interest that we've been able to capture
8:01 along this process have been you know
8:04 seniors uh youth Transportation advocacy
8:07 Human Services organizations uh lots of
8:12 folks from the business Community the
8:14 community at Large
8:15 and then as well as uh you know the tab
8:19 EVC you know other City boards and
8:22 commissions we've also reached out to
8:24 the city council and other government
8:28 agencies so
8:30 you just gotten started but you know
8:32 we're on a good track right now we're
8:35 still reaching out to a lot of folks um
8:39 this morning I spoke with the Kiwanis so
8:41 just you know actively actively whenever
8:44 possible folding in
8:46 um going to where people are currently
8:49 meeting I'm going to where it's
8:51 convenient for them to provide feedback
8:54 we're on a we're on a good track and uh
8:57 I'm pretty excited about how we're doing
8:59 with the transit study so far
9:03 so yeah Transit study open house was
9:06 pretty successful we had 15 participants
9:10 including one of our very own tab
9:12 members that was pretty awesome uh and
9:15 then we had five staff members which
9:16 included uh two from our consultant team
9:20 some of the themes that we heard uh at
9:23 this event were things related to a span
9:27 of service and like weekend service for
9:29 for Transit
9:31 also lots of interest in flexible
9:34 options and just general uh more
9:36 transportation choices
9:38 we had a lot of folks who
9:41 you know
9:42 we're not driving as often as they used
9:45 to so um you know lots of interest in
9:48 you know providing options uh Beyond
9:50 just a vehicle
9:54 and some of the other interesting things
9:56 that we heard were uh you know related
10:01 creating a culture of writing Transit so
10:04 I thought that was pretty interesting a
10:06 lot of folks were interested in making
10:08 it fun making it cool and
10:12 more comfortable to ride around
10:15 um on a bus around town so
10:18 yep filter is sort of the the general uh
10:20 high-level details
10:23 and
10:24 another sort of major thing was just
10:26 incentivizing ridership on Transit so
10:29 some big picture uh things were
10:31 mentioned but also we went in the weeds
10:33 a little bit talking about uh you know
10:35 how Services currently being provided
10:37 and some of the deficiencies uh that
10:40 we're seeing and felt so
10:45 that's about it for the open house but
10:48 at the open house we also you know
10:50 talked about other ways that people
10:51 could get involved and I'll show you in
10:54 a minute how that has improved our
10:56 Outreach
10:58 um so this is the project website that's
11:00 been developed and the URL is
11:04 is.gov and then some numbers and Transit
11:08 study you could easily find that with a
11:09 quick Google search for Transit study
11:12 ways that people can get involved if if
11:15 you're not actively on the website like
11:17 most people
11:18 um you can click a subscribe button
11:21 right on the website and any updates
11:24 that we provide will be pushed out to
11:27 your email
11:29 in addition to that there's my contact
11:31 information and several folks have
11:33 emailed me directly I've had many
11:36 conversations with people along the way
11:38 so that's been pretty good to have just
11:40 direct open lines of communication with
11:43 anybody that wants to talk Transit
11:46 yeah
11:52 we've also developed a uh a web map
11:55 which has been
11:57 very heavily used so no
12:00 Thomas I'm sorry interrupt could you go
12:03 back to that last slide um
12:06 right net website down thanks
12:16 God thank you
12:18 very cool okay
12:19 um so here's another uh
12:22 here's another link uh so this is also
12:25 found on that website this is a
12:28 interactive web map
12:30 um and it operates very similar to
12:32 Google Maps so there's like pins you can
12:34 drop
12:36 um a lot of folks this is actually a
12:38 screenshot from uh I think like two
12:40 hours ago that I took
12:43 um this is where people have
12:46 provided comments uh things to improve
12:49 uh things that they like other sort of
12:53 Transit bike and pedestrian comments
12:58 there's also if folks are uncomfortable
13:01 with the buttons uh putting it directly
13:03 on the map there's a handy email button
13:06 so that sends an email directly to me
13:08 another option
13:10 for folks to provide feedback
13:13 and
13:15 again is the link so it's a it's a it's
13:18 a truncated web link but it's like bit
13:21 dot l y forward slash isqua Transit
13:28 and this is some analytics that we
13:31 pulled uh from a couple hours ago
13:34 so thus far there's been 572 visits on
13:39 that site
13:40 179 unique users
13:43 the average time spent on the website
13:45 has been just under two minutes
13:48 and
13:49 uh yeah I mean we're receiving a lot of
13:52 feedback uh up until the transit study
13:55 and sorry up until the trend study open
13:58 house and then you can see
14:00 I'll get my cursor here
14:03 we had a pretty big jump
14:05 right after that study open house so
14:07 that's been pretty cool to see very
14:09 validating
14:10 um on our end
14:12 um but yeah so this this website and
14:16 I'll go back real quick
14:18 um this website uh will be open for just
14:22 about another week it closes on the 6th
14:27 uh if you know anybody who's interested
14:29 in this feel free to share this with
14:32 them we would appreciate all the
14:34 comments we can get
14:36 um of course like once this website
14:38 closes we're still open to receiving
14:40 feedback but this would be like a really
14:42 handy way
14:44 um to get it is
14:45 on a map that'd be very helpful
14:50 lastly I just wanted to share we have a
14:53 survey so this is an another way that
14:57 people can provide feedback it provides
14:59 different data it's it's um there's a
15:01 series of questions it takes about six
15:03 minutes to take
15:06 yeah we've had pretty good responses on
15:09 this uh so far and again I pulled this a
15:12 couple hours ago
15:14 um we've had 232 responses on the survey
15:17 so pretty great for that
15:19 um and this is just a screenshot of the
15:23 first question uh one thing I forgot to
15:25 mention is that both that wet nap and
15:28 this survey are translatable in some
15:30 multiple languages
15:32 um and so the survey we we have it set
15:35 to translate to English Mandarin and
15:38 Spanish
15:39 yeah so we can see that there's uh you
15:42 know 11 of the respondents
15:44 um have taken the survey in Mandarin
15:46 which is pretty great and then about 89
15:50 have taken it in English so again
15:56 um this will be open for about another
15:57 week
15:58 um something great if you could share
16:01 this or take it yourself if you haven't
16:02 taken it um
16:04 again after this survey closes after
16:07 that web map is closed you can always
16:10 reach out to me and I'm always happy to
16:12 receive your feedback
16:16 and for anybody who's super handy uh
16:19 with a smartphone you can
16:22 go to your camera I have a I have an
16:24 apple so you can go to your camera go to
16:26 the
16:27 camera feature and you can scan any of
16:30 these and they will pull up the web page
16:34 that you need
16:38 so next steps we're hoping to bring the
16:42 transit gaps analysis uh to you uh in a
16:46 couple months so
16:48 uh look forward for that
16:50 um this Transit apps analysis will uh be
16:54 based on a lot of analysis that has been
16:57 done
16:58 um based off the existing Transit
16:59 Network and lots of feedback that we've
17:02 received uh thus far so looking at ways
17:05 that uh you know if there's if there's
17:07 gaps in how uh Transit is currently
17:11 being provided based on desired commute
17:13 patterns and access to transit services
17:18 um we're gonna sort of talk about some
17:21 of the deficiencies and I'll have some
17:23 policy questions that I'll have for the
17:26 tap to weigh in on
17:29 um so
17:30 that's all I got and I'd be happy to
17:32 answer any questions
17:36 thank you Thomas um I have some
17:38 questions but I'm going to hold off and
17:39 defer to my colleagues Jared do you have
17:41 any questions
17:44 okay
17:46 I don't have any questions I'm just uh
17:49 it's a comment that is wonderful to see
17:51 this level of interest in
17:54 transits uh inputs mechanisms for this
17:58 study
17:59 um and I will say that the feedback and
18:01 the input that I was received I was at
18:04 the back of the room just listening to
18:05 what people are saying by doing some of
18:07 my own comments but
18:10 lots of Transit pants there lots of
18:13 people who wanted multimodal ways of
18:15 getting around the house
18:16 Scott I'd really encouraging to see that
18:19 level of support
18:21 um move forward in that respect
18:24 so yeah
18:34 apologize for Mr Roberta
18:37 severe cold the last thing you wanted
18:40 was was to be there but we had a
18:43 religious report we were really going to
18:45 go and I think I mentioned that the last
18:48 time we had a meeting we wanted to go
18:53 I'm always happy to hear about more
18:57 people wanting to ride with us because I
18:59 just think
19:02 after 52 years of driving when more
19:06 people getting interested in writing is
19:09 great
19:10 so I'm excited
19:12 I'm excited to see the future out here
19:14 with Trenton
19:17 hi thanks I had a couple questions
19:20 um and one of them was uh
19:23 well one of them was I I noticed that
19:25 there were zero so responded so far in
19:27 Spanish but I hope that I don't know um
19:30 I haven't paid enough attention so I
19:31 don't know if that's pretty standard but
19:33 I hope that we would continue to do that
19:34 even if we're not it's taking people a
19:36 while to recognize as it probably used
19:38 to not seeing that so I would hope that
19:40 we would continue to offer that if it's
19:43 even close remotely possible if I'm sure
19:47 it costs money but I think
19:49 we're serious about Equity making sure
19:51 you know even if people aren't doing it
19:55 yet just give them a chance um and uh it
19:58 was exciting to see even 11 non
20:01 non-english speakers or at least people
20:03 preferred it in another language
20:05 um I was curious about the business
20:08 Community
20:10 um and I was curious whether you were
20:12 able to reach people with Transit
20:14 dependent employees
20:17 um that was something I had been kind of
20:19 thinking about a little bit I talked to
20:20 somebody recently a local business with
20:24 a lot of Transit dependent employees and
20:26 I was curious whether you felt like your
20:28 business Community category was
20:30 capturing much of that and if so did
20:32 they have much to say
20:35 yeah yeah that's that's actually that is
20:38 something that came up
20:40 um when I was at Kiwanis this morning
20:43 um I think there's certainly I think we
20:46 need to do a little bit more uh for the
20:49 business Community
20:53 I have reached out to several businesses
20:56 um large employers specifically
20:58 um the general sense that I get is that
21:01 uh most of them
21:04 are not concerned about uh how things
21:08 are going right now
21:10 um I think the reason for that is that
21:14 a lot of a lot of how this uh study has
21:17 been looking at it's been looking at
21:19 like future kind of things and it may it
21:22 may sort of not be a tangible thing that
21:25 businesses feel
21:26 um is affecting them or like they can
21:28 make change on right now so I think some
21:31 uh some packaging and some um
21:34 some branding it needs to be needs to
21:36 happen so that's sort of my goal for the
21:38 next stretch is to reach out to more
21:41 businesses and sort of make it clear
21:43 that like the feedback that they're
21:46 getting will be like very useful in the
21:49 near term
21:50 foreign is it appropriate for me to make
21:52 a particular specific suggestion
21:57 uh I think that you should reach out to
21:59 the manager at MOD Pizza in the
22:01 highlands
22:03 let's say I had a conversation with her
22:04 about
22:05 Transit dependency in their employees
22:10 great yeah that's a great suggestion
22:12 um I'm happy to receive any other
22:15 um you know recommendations uh but yeah
22:18 there's been there's been a lot of
22:21 organizations that I've wanted to speak
22:24 with that haven't necessarily
22:27 uh been you know it just hasn't been
22:31 like a super big priority for them but
22:33 uh I'm certainly
22:35 I'm feeling pretty Scrappy and I'm gonna
22:37 keep reaching out to people and um I'd
22:40 I'd like to hear more from the business
22:42 Community for sure
22:52 um you could even Park expensive um I
22:55 was also curious if in this all this
22:57 feedback we haven't talked a lot about
22:58 the substance besides the idea of um
23:01 making Transit cooler uh have you had
23:03 any surprises uh anything that's really
23:07 um you know you weren't expecting
23:12 yeah that's a great question and I think
23:15 the most surprising for me uh was when I
23:18 went to the senior center
23:21 a lot of a lot of the emphasis that I
23:25 think people get excited about is light
23:27 rail
23:28 um I think that is something that uh
23:32 you know as we're looking out 20 years
23:34 from now um light rail is like this like
23:38 you know Big Ticket item
23:41 My overall sense was that the senior
23:44 center uh folks folks there were not
23:46 interested uh in those discussions
23:49 uh and they were more interested in what
23:52 we can do now what we can do in the next
23:54 couple years
23:56 um it's just it was a it was a
23:58 perspective that
24:00 like on reflection makes a lot of sense
24:03 but
24:04 um I just thought it was a very it was
24:07 very like there was just more emphasis
24:09 on the here and now
24:10 um and like the short term uh that I
24:13 think was very important to capture
24:15 dude
24:18 did they happen to mention that they
24:22 were getting active
24:27 training on writing Metro buses and
24:32 going to Seattle
24:35 that that was not mentioned
24:38 um I what I did hear was that there are
24:41 services available that can help
24:45 connect seniors with uh like free and
24:48 reduced rides I know that there's
24:51 Support Services associated with writing
24:54 Transit Transit um I I haven't actually
24:56 heard uh anything about like
24:59 the the writer training um but yeah that
25:02 that is an interesting
25:04 uh area that I think is important
25:07 do you mind like reflect like do you
25:09 have any more information on that
25:11 yeah 11 years now there's been a program
25:14 at the senior center called Metro with
25:17 Dave
25:18 and we actually take seniors on trips
25:23 and we provide worker card seminars at
25:27 the senior center to give them the
25:30 newest information about uh worker cars
25:34 and by doing that and we do once a month
25:39 uh trips field trips to Seattle so it's
25:44 uh it's been going on now for 11 years
25:47 so I think I I would just
25:49 very curious that you talked about the
25:52 senior center so that they
25:55 are probably of all the organizations in
25:59 town they're probably more up to date
26:01 with a lot of information about how the
26:04 transit works and the opportunities to
26:09 write Transit
26:13 it's something that we've geared to that
26:17 for uh at least like I said 11 years now
26:21 to be able to teach them uh how to do
26:26 that we are the only
26:28 senior center in 34 King County senior
26:33 centers where this program takes place
26:35 so uh it's uh
26:40 pretty good and our seniors are really
26:44 getting out and about
26:46 the biggest cell
26:48 for the seniors and using Transit is it
26:52 only costs a buck
26:54 you can't even drive to Seattle for a
26:59 buck but you can definitely ride the bus
27:01 for a walk and I think the biggest thing
27:04 that I've heard from the seniors is they
27:07 want to be able to get around the
27:08 Issaquah Valley and up on the hill they
27:11 want to get the Swedish they want to be
27:13 able to get the Costco and using uh so
27:18 that's that's uh
27:21 I'm not trying to blow my horn here I'm
27:23 trying to tell you that they're getting
27:27 first-hand information on how to do this
27:31 and uh stay up to date with all the
27:35 buses that go through Issaquah
27:38 I don't think a solution for them is
27:40 going to be light rail because I
27:43 I think are we talking about the 20 40s
27:46 before Light Rail even gets out here I
27:49 expect to be up in Upper Hillside
27:52 Cemetery Pushing Daisies up by then
27:56 but still
27:59 what's happening today we're keeping
28:01 them abreast just to plug my own
28:04 interest
28:05 this month this month we went to the
28:10 MOHAI next month in April we are taking
28:14 them
28:16 to um
28:19 Tacoma
28:20 so we're going to go to Tacoma on the
28:23 bus
28:25 I think the seniors really uh at least
28:28 at the senior center
28:30 they know who to go talk to and how to
28:33 get there so uh I'm excited about that
28:37 and I want to pick up on one comment
28:40 prior to the pandemic
28:42 major businesses were providing worker
28:47 cards to their employer at either 50
28:51 percent of the Orca card value or some
28:56 100 percent so that they could ride for
29:00 free but the pandemic basically had a
29:03 major impact on that we want to get back
29:06 to that
29:07 that's
29:09 Transit centered right over there used
29:12 to be full to 90
29:14 a day or more
29:17 it's not even half formal and that was
29:20 all because of the pandemic so I believe
29:23 it's out here it's just waiting to be
29:26 awakened again and that we can really do
29:30 some of our good work
29:32 for copies of this sermon we've got
29:35 right to it
29:35 [Music]
29:37 594 bus is fun
29:42 kind of going in the light rails that's
29:45 actually not really
29:46 more discussion but it is like for
29:48 future Generations pretty important
29:50 obviously um
29:52 but what was I going to say about just
29:56 like the local service aspect I think we
29:58 heard a lot in the open house as well I
30:02 think there's someone who is saying like
30:03 they would appreciate or like they know
30:06 a nurse at Swedish for example who has
30:09 to walk like pretty far out of the
30:12 hospital campus to that whole bus stop
30:15 line The Highlands Drive
30:18 um to go home so
30:20 yeah I definitely heard quite a bit
30:22 about local service and its importance
30:26 a person exciting things I think I mean
30:28 on the horizon um
30:31 and I think another question I had was
30:33 kind of like
30:34 um what's the
30:36 process for incorporating the public
30:39 inputs into the transit gaps now are
30:43 they different processes or are they
30:46 at the same
30:48 that's a great question
30:50 um so with with the gaps analysis we
30:53 a lot of it is like uh
30:57 a lot of it is pretty analytical using
30:59 like
31:04 origin and so I'm trying to pair this
31:07 down a little bit um so a lot of it is
31:09 just like using like travel patterns
31:11 based off of like forecasted information
31:14 um so there's like a quantitative aspect
31:18 in addition to that quantitative aspect
31:20 where we're seeing like bottlenecks in
31:22 the network or like deficiencies at
31:24 intersections
31:26 um we are also supplementing that with
31:29 the lived experiences and the the
31:32 qualitative uh information that we've
31:34 received so it'll be a very 360
31:37 degree view of um the future network a
31:42 lot of it will be based on like hard
31:44 data that we have
31:45 and there's also a lot of anecdotal
31:48 information that is uh
31:51 just further pointing towards like the
31:53 things that we know but there's also a
31:56 lot of information that can't be
31:57 captured by data we don't have data on
31:59 everything so a lot of the feedback that
32:01 we're getting
32:02 um by the time that that document is
32:04 prepared should be encapsulating
32:08 above all that information and uh you
32:11 know conversations uh interviews and um
32:15 all the the information that we've
32:17 received to date
32:21 I hope that answers your question
32:23 yeah that's great what Thomas was it
32:26 negative a lot of feedback you got was
32:30 it negative
32:34 I I think that you know there's some
32:36 folks that were uh fairly negative
32:38 um but we also had some folks that were
32:41 pretty positive about how things are
32:43 going
32:47 I think that you know the types of
32:49 people that would come to events uh are
32:52 probably pretty polarized one way or the
32:54 other um so that was certainly felt
32:56 um I've also had many phone calls where
32:59 you know
33:01 people are just at their house and
33:02 having a chat with me and um pretty
33:06 positive about the future so it it
33:08 really depends on the person I would say
33:12 I think there's an acknowledgment that
33:14 uh Transit service that's provided by
33:17 King County Metro and Sound Transit
33:19 there could be some improvements
33:21 um that's certainly something that I
33:23 think most people have felt
33:25 uh but
33:28 a lot of the
33:29 a lot of the folks that attended the
33:31 open house are pretty excited about
33:35 um how Transit is currently being
33:37 provided there's excitement for like the
33:39 changes that are coming
33:41 um there's going to be consolidation of
33:43 routes that uh you know will in the
33:46 short term improve uh you know Spanish
33:49 service so like how
33:52 uh how far during the day that Transit
33:55 is being provided
33:56 um you know
33:57 the headways so like the the time
34:00 between buses that should be reduced for
34:03 many routes so there's some like minor
34:05 uh you know changes that are happening
34:07 in the short term that I think people
34:09 are excited about but there's also
34:12 acknowledgment that
34:14 as Light Rail comes East uh there will
34:18 be some Growing Pains uh some routes
34:21 will have minor changes that will be
34:24 sort of just new things that we need to
34:27 Grapple with but as we as we consider
34:30 the you know the bigger picture
34:33 there's going to be improved Regional
34:35 connectivity
34:37 I think there's a lot to be said about
34:39 like the exciting things but also
34:41 acknowledging that there will be some
34:43 Growing Pains that we need to address as
34:46 are sort of on the up and up
34:50 yeah I mean I think one of the things I
34:51 was being heard that the open house was
34:54 the consternation about the
34:57 were no longer going to have a one-seat
35:00 ride to
35:02 downtown yeah yeah
35:05 it's going to go to South Bellevue uh to
35:09 the link from there but initially I was
35:12 also back complaining about it but
35:15 now it's like being if you ride the 554
35:18 a lot into town it's like
35:21 you're pretty stuck on Jackson and all
35:25 those downtown streets and so having
35:27 that light rail that just takes you
35:29 underground and Skip all that traffic
35:31 and the Sphinx
35:33 screen
35:34 the red lights and stuff it's gonna be
35:36 pretty convenient I think even with that
35:38 transfer it might be faster
35:42 so it's going to go then under I know
35:45 that we talked about this a couple times
35:47 six seven months ago just but I didn't
35:50 realize that when it gets to Seattle
35:52 then it goes
35:54 like
35:56 from downtown Bellevue yeah fine okay
36:00 not immediately not eventually but at
36:03 the Terminus yeah as opposed to not when
36:05 we have it here but when they open them
36:08 again
36:11 that's good that's a good point let's
36:12 bring it up okay I'm just since we do
36:14 have luxury retirement I'm just going to
36:15 ask one other question and that is um
36:18 can you just zoom out a step I know you
36:20 said the next steps was the Gap analysis
36:22 but can you remind all of us
36:26 the larger context about where this is
36:29 going and the um the scope to the
36:32 temporal the scope of the project and um
36:36 and what it then uh where it will lead
36:40 us what will be done with this can you
36:42 just remind us of that I feel like we've
36:44 talked a lot about the transit study and
36:46 we haven't spent that much time talking
36:47 you know substance about this so can you
36:51 just back up and remind us about
36:53 what is it we're doing where it's going
36:55 to end up what's going to happen and
36:56 Beyond just next steps yeah sure thing
36:59 um so the scope of this project is
37:02 really it's like a two-year project a
37:05 lot of it is coinciding with the update
37:07 of the mobility master plan
37:09 um and I think the goal for this is to
37:12 sort of finish that up in Spring of 24.
37:16 okay so that's just like the transit uh
37:19 piece of the mobility master plan
37:22 um along the way
37:26 this study will also
37:28 um as we as we uh
37:31 study the deficiencies as we know sort
37:33 of what the future network will look
37:35 like that will inform
37:38 that will inform some of the projects
37:40 that are
37:42 recommended for the capital Improvement
37:44 program or the transportation
37:46 Improvement program
37:47 so there will be some uh you know
37:50 Transit speed and reliability projects
37:52 there's also going to potentially be
37:55 some programmatic type things that the
37:58 city can do to improve Transit so those
38:01 are sort of like the
38:03 some of the more tangible things we're
38:05 also going to be creating a strategy for
38:07 light rail as it comes so you can look
38:10 forward to that
38:11 further down the road this is really
38:14 just to get in front of uh you know
38:16 future discussions for light rail
38:19 just making sure that the Issaquah you
38:22 know
38:23 I feel uh our values are reflected in
38:28 those future discussions when Sound
38:30 Transit is ready to have them but just
38:33 really getting getting prepared for for
38:36 those
38:39 we're also going to be looking at some
38:41 metrics that we can
38:44 that we can have impact on so these
38:47 would be Transit related uh like I guess
38:50 level level Service uh Transit sort of
38:53 um you know metrics that the city can
38:55 say okay we've we've we have these
38:58 projects and
39:01 they have improved transit in these ways
39:04 um and these are things that we we can
39:06 do specifically
39:08 and we'll be doing some Equity analysis
39:11 and you know Equity is a major push for
39:13 the city we're we're very very serious
39:16 about it so Equity will be
39:19 at the center of of everything that we
39:21 do and there will be analysis that is
39:24 included in that and all this will be
39:26 rolled into the
39:28 um the transit section of the mobility
39:30 master plan
39:31 okay
39:33 thank you that's really helpful and also
39:36 I just want to double check that we're
39:38 all making sure the way I understand is
39:40 the mobility master plan is a fancy way
39:43 of describing the transportation element
39:45 of the comprehensive plan is that a
39:47 correct statement it sure is yep I think
39:51 that lots of us are familiar with
39:53 Comprehensive plans and Transit and the
39:54 elements of comprehensive plans it took
39:57 me a couple years of working on the MP
39:59 and realizing it was it is the
40:01 transformation element so we have this
40:03 fancy name for it but I think it'd be
40:06 helpful to keep reminding us that that
40:09 is the transformation element and then
40:11 it sounds like it's going to be
40:13 I imagine each element is going to be on
40:15 its own specific schedule but there's an
40:17 overall schedule for the comprehensive
40:19 plan I presume so helping remind us of
40:22 what that is generally will be helpful
40:25 sure let me just give a little bit more
40:28 information on that if if you're
40:29 interested
40:30 um and so
40:32 every eight to ten years we we do an
40:36 update on the uh on the comprehensive
40:38 plans and so that that is upon us you
40:41 know we just finished Title 18 and uh so
40:44 now we're moving to the next big thing
40:46 which is that that comp plan uh periodic
40:49 update so we're doing that
40:52 you know we're looking at everything
40:54 from like land use Transportation
40:56 uh utilities housing all that
41:00 um and so transportation is one of those
41:02 uh Transit will be like the major focus
41:05 of the update
41:07 um so this is
41:09 just like you said uh this is the uh the
41:13 implementing the um you know strategic
41:15 sort of portion the the the steps that
41:18 we can take to implement uh that
41:22 comprehensive plan element uh for the
41:24 transportation element
41:28 um what is that schedule that the over
41:32 to the whole comprehensive plan is there
41:34 some like Target date that that gets
41:35 adopted
41:37 the specific date I I'm not aware that
41:39 there's a specific date but my
41:40 understanding is it's going to be like
41:43 Q3 or Q4
41:45 um of 2024. I want to say it's Q3
41:55 sizes
41:56 um and they are monstrous and um I just
41:59 wanted to kind of have a sense of where
42:01 that what was on the horizon there um
42:04 great thank you sorry just one last
42:06 thing our deadline for the comp plan is
42:09 the end of 24
42:10 um so we we do have a lot of time uh to
42:14 to make sure that we're doing it right
42:15 but yeah so I guess our I would uh
42:19 change my answer and I'd say Q4 of 24
42:23 um is sort of our our end goal yep
42:28 that's really helpful thank you um does
42:29 anyone else have any questions or
42:31 comments about this topic
42:34 how you doing go ahead
42:38 without getting into trouble
42:40 you know the other night I said
42:44 it's gonna be soon that we're gonna have
42:47 brand new players in here and I really
42:50 think that what's going to really need
42:53 to have
42:54 to happen for those brand new players is
42:57 they're going to have to be able to walk
42:59 in and totally understand Contra
43:02 comprehensive master plan
43:04 Central Issaquah plan
43:07 Mobility master plan it's going to be a
43:11 little overwhelming for them so
43:14 whatever we can do whatever homework we
43:19 can do on Saturday or Sunday that we sit
43:23 in here and we talk what are your
43:26 questions about this can because they're
43:30 going it just about will be out of the
43:33 water and I've been going to these a lot
43:36 so I think
43:38 somehow we got to figure out how we do
43:42 that and get them up to speed we'll
43:46 like that or just down my fingers
43:48 because otherwise there's going to be
43:50 delay and they're going to feel
43:52 overwhelmed and we don't want them to
43:54 feel overwhelmed we want to feel a feel
43:57 that they're right up to speed so when
44:00 he mentions Central Issaquah plan or the
44:03 mobility master plan or the tip they go
44:06 yep I know what that is because
44:08 otherwise
44:10 we'll do ourselves a disservice so
44:14 I appreciate that and you're not in
44:15 trouble and I will say that I've been on
44:17 the sport since it started and I still
44:19 get overwhelmed and I can't remember
44:21 everything and so I like to ask them
44:23 questions and um and I I think going
44:25 through this with the new members will
44:27 help all the members I don't think
44:29 there's anybody here that maybe a
44:30 Saturday with coffee and donuts and we
44:32 just uh sit here and we talk about those
44:35 basic things so that they go oh yeah I
44:39 get it now and because that
44:42 first meeting that they attend
44:44 they're going to feel like they don't
44:47 want to contribute or they they just
44:49 don't know enough about contributing I'm
44:51 saying let's get beyond that right away
44:53 let's have a Saturday morning
44:57 uh meeting where you lay those plans out
45:00 and we
45:02 they're just the plan seeing the plans
45:05 but anyway yeah thank you for hearing me
45:08 out and I honestly believe that we'll do
45:11 this board I think all of us can have a
45:15 refresher and then I'm this is a very
45:17 much in the weeds comment but while
45:18 we're on the subject I did want to
45:20 mention that um I know John's heard me
45:22 say this before but whenever your staff
45:24 memos can reference those documents uh
45:27 providing page numbers links or whatever
45:29 I think it keeps all of us accountable
45:31 to those adopted plans
45:33 um if we're constantly referencing them
45:36 not just in theory but actually you know
45:38 if you talk about the um
45:40 the principles for example or the trying
45:43 to remember what we call those
45:44 statements but um you know bouncing to
45:47 those pages is super helpful when you're
45:48 drafting your memos
45:50 um John's sort of a textualist and so
45:52 much principles of the mobility guiding
45:55 principles thank you yes
45:57 um yeah so that's always helpful again I
46:00 know that's it very specific tactical
46:02 thing but just while we're on that topic
46:04 great well thank you um all right well
46:06 with that it sounds like we're going to
46:07 move along we're going to talk about the
46:08 CIP uh criteria and I just wanted to say
46:14 before reading the memo when we talked
46:17 in our prep meeting we just talked about
46:19 making sure that the tab is reminded
46:22 that we're not here to revisit the
46:24 criteria
46:25 um and I think the memo made that all
46:27 that pretty clear
46:29 um but I just wanted to say that
46:31 um first of all I think that that
46:33 meeting was we were awesome there were
46:35 we really we had more depth than any
46:39 other board there I was very proud of
46:41 that that was really cool
46:43 um and then I also we I think it was a
46:46 really really effective meeting and I
46:48 hope everyone felt like it was worth
46:49 their time but uh because there's
46:52 several boards we can't go back and
46:54 revisit it you'd have to start that
46:56 whole cycle over again and I think the
46:58 memo made was pretty clear about kind of
47:00 what could and could it be addressed but
47:01 just wanted to kind of I'm going to turn
47:03 this over to Emily but I just wanted to
47:05 remind us
47:07 um that we don't this is not enough we
47:09 don't have the opportunity to revisit
47:12 um covered old ground that we've already
47:14 recovered before
47:16 um but we do have an opportunity to make
47:18 sure that they captured what it was that
47:20 we agreed to in those meetings and I
47:22 think that's what was promised and I
47:23 think that's what we're about to talk
47:25 about if I understand correctly yes um
47:27 so with that I just wanted to make sure
47:29 that keep us honest and not going back
47:31 and um covering old ground that is not
47:33 appropriate we just can't do that
47:36 and get all we'd have to get all those
47:38 birds back together again to agree that
47:40 some new criteria uh so I just wanted to
47:42 remind everybody of that and then go
47:44 ahead and turn over to Emily great thank
47:46 you very much that was uh the perfect
47:47 introduction
47:49 uh this is just an opportunity for us to
47:52 do a few things first to say thank you
47:55 um tab representation about the summit
47:58 for us indeed fantastic and uh I
48:02 certainly know from having spoken the
48:04 staff that was there between minutes
48:07 from the meeting uh your your voices
48:10 were upfront they were captured
48:13 um so thank you all for participating
48:16 and contributing to that and it
48:18 certainly helped us as we needed a
48:22 fine-tune that criteria and try to get
48:24 it to a place where we could start to
48:25 implement it and I think that's one of
48:27 the other reasons why
48:29 um we're not asking at this moment from
48:31 every board that we're going back to
48:34 um for substantive kinds of changes we
48:37 want to do a check and ask you know does
48:41 it look like we are in better alignment
48:44 with your desires with your feedback
48:47 that you provided at the summit will
48:50 capture that information
48:53 um I believe that the is attempt to
48:58 create criteria by which we will Rank
49:01 and rate
49:03 capital projects is something that we
49:05 that will be iterative and we will come
49:08 back to this we will learn as we go we
49:11 will fine-tune again and so your
49:13 comments today are still just as
49:16 important
49:18 having said that we are in the moment
49:20 where we are creating capital projects
49:22 we're getting a draft ready for
49:24 the city council for administration
49:27 first to review and then for city
49:29 council and so we're asking our staff to
49:33 start applying that criteria right now
49:38 um I wanted to if you all have a copy of
49:42 the memo I'm going to put it on slides
49:45 for you
49:47 um I think a few of the points that I
49:49 wanted to um
49:51 verbalize from the memo that the deputy
49:55 City administrator wrote
49:57 is we spent quite a bit of time thinking
49:59 about the all of the diplomas there were
50:02 quite a few comments around equity in
50:05 particular
50:06 um and that has been an area that uh has
50:09 been challenging I'll say for us to come
50:11 up with
50:13 um criteria that will work criteria that
50:15 will work for every project every
50:17 circumstance and I I know that is a
50:20 primary place where we will learn as we
50:23 go and find tune this is the first time
50:26 we have had such an element in our
50:30 significant criteria
50:32 and so we're grateful for the input on
50:36 the grateful for the patients as we
50:38 learn as we go
50:43 we also had robust discussion about the
50:48 criteria that would help us assess if
50:52 Capital Improvement projects have
50:55 positive negative impact on overall
50:57 quality of life in Issaquah it's always
51:00 another one that's difficult to Define
51:02 each come with our own expectations and
51:06 definitions around that
51:08 and on that particular criteria
51:12 we attempted to capture that by giving a
51:17 little bit better definition of
51:18 livability and quality of life and we
51:22 used proxies I will say and then
51:27 criteria that we are implementing today
51:29 and those proxies are um
51:32 the input that we have received from the
51:35 community about what is important what
51:37 what creates quality of life and how
51:39 that then got manifested into say our
51:42 strategic plan so we're using the
51:45 Strategic plan alignment a bit as a
51:47 proxy for testing
51:49 um is this project one that helps us
51:53 improve quality of life in the community
51:55 because it is in in tune in sync with
51:58 the Strategic plan or not
52:03 um let's see
52:08 all right
52:09 there's been some desire from board
52:12 members community members council
52:13 members to have some
52:17 criteria that recognize that some
52:21 projects have been in the queue for some
52:23 time some projects have been
52:26 promised plan for the community for some
52:29 time than others have shorter tenure or
52:32 maybe just be brand new to the CIP so a
52:35 lot of discussion about
52:37 whether that's an important factor
52:40 whether it should be waited in Town
52:43 Council continues to discuss that and
52:46 how they how they want to treat that
52:48 particular variable we expect that they
52:52 will continue to help us
52:54 identify what they want to see on that
52:57 front it didn't result
52:59 in a criteria that we are applying as we
53:03 make projects however we are intending
53:06 to try to provide them with some of the
53:08 background that they may need in order
53:10 to um
53:12 readily understand is this is this a
53:15 brand new project is this a project that
53:16 wasn't a previous CIP
53:19 that that sort of filter I guess to be
53:23 able to
53:25 analyze any of the proposed projects
53:30 and then there was a lot of discussion
53:33 about the the rating instrument you know
53:37 the uh scale right and so um uh just
53:43 because we love our traffic and
53:45 transportation friends we've we've
53:47 proposed a red yellow green uh kind of
53:50 system
53:51 um this is an improvement in my mind
53:53 from sort of the binary yes no uh kind
53:57 of criteria
53:59 um but
54:00 it certainly doesn't go so far as to
54:02 make it look deeply scientific right
54:06 um I know from experience it it becomes
54:09 very difficult to talk about projects on
54:12 say a 10-point scale where you have a
54:15 8.7 and uh you know 7.9 and then
54:19 really try to articulate what is the
54:22 difference between those projects and
54:23 still in the end the 7.9 might be the
54:26 one that needs to be done sooner rather
54:30 than later in the capital Improvement
54:32 project so it's just it's very difficult
54:34 I think to come up with a raining
54:37 instrument that works really well
54:40 um and it and so
54:42 we are hopeful that at least
54:46 um we can apply each of the Criterion to
54:48 every project and give an added glance
54:51 kind of assessment of this project
54:55 doing well on that particular Criterion
54:59 or is this one that that isn't really a
55:02 factor with this project because there
55:05 are projects like that where the project
55:08 may be uh
55:10 maintenance in nature and and uh maybe
55:14 legally required a couple of our
55:17 criterions but
55:19 um maybe maybe it wasn't addressed in
55:24 the Strategic plan or a prior plan of
55:27 the city and so it's going to get maybe
55:29 a yellow or even a red or not
55:31 participating item
55:34 so that is the scale that we're going to
55:38 try to apply
55:40 that one in particular wanted to mention
55:43 to all of you because we will be
55:45 bringing back the proposed
55:48 Transportation projects to this board
55:51 and showing you
55:54 um our initial rating of those projects
55:57 on each of these Criterion and asking
56:01 for feedback from that but where do you
56:04 see it differently
56:06 um we'll be able to share our thought
56:09 process as we select a bright yellow or
56:12 green on each of those variables for
56:15 each of the projects and so that's the
56:17 next place a feedback both on the
56:19 instrument itself the the rating
56:23 A system that we're establishing but um
56:26 also a little bit of feedback I'll say
56:28 on on the projects themselves and how
56:30 you view them
56:32 um and their importance on each of those
56:34 factors
56:36 uh in the end the number of criteria
56:39 remained the same
56:42 um so we did not add or subtract to it
56:45 but hopefully have clarified uh overall
56:48 definitions and
56:50 the definitions of what a red means and
56:53 so on
56:55 um so next steps for us uh staff has
56:59 been really busy over the last few weeks
57:01 pulling together projects
57:04 understatement
57:06 and trying to do what we do on our side
57:11 um uh Shape Up scope processments all of
57:15 that and it also apply this rating
57:19 criteria system that information is now
57:23 moving over into City Administration in
57:27 finance and they will look at our work
57:29 they will also apply some additional
57:31 filters like like what's affordable
57:35 given each funds
57:38 sources Revenue sources Etc and the
57:43 proposed CIP will then begin to take its
57:47 final shape as a proposed CIP and then
57:50 we'll be transmitted over to the city
57:54 council in May we'll get their feedback
57:59 at that point in time and then hope
58:01 ultimately to have adoption of the CIT
58:04 by July 1st
58:06 so the month of April will be back to
58:09 share the proposed
58:12 initially proposed Transportation
58:15 projects and our rating on those and get
58:19 your feedback but tonight
58:21 I um this is very open uh conversation
58:26 we just love to hear your feedback
58:28 having read the memo
58:31 and the new rating system
58:35 hearing from you
58:37 where did we get it right
58:39 where do you think it's still not quite
58:42 right
58:43 any suggestions that you might have and
58:47 I certainly will keep track of those and
58:50 hear this word
58:53 thank you
58:56 do you have any questions any comments
58:58 Jerry how about you
59:00 [Music]
59:06 um oh
59:09 okay so Jerry is
59:12 Jerry I can see you on my computer but
59:14 we're not seeing it on the TV
59:17 Oh weird okay uh she's a little triangle
59:22 up at the left top Corner that's usually
59:25 yeah I'm gonna have the room leave the
59:28 meeting and come back
59:31 Orange
1:00:01 I'm trying to get in the habit of
1:00:04 remembering uh Jared did you have any
1:00:06 questions or comments
1:00:08 um about what Emily had to share
1:00:11 yes but I can't hear you
1:00:15 now I can't
1:00:17 yeah just turn up your volume
1:00:23 I did not read the memo
1:00:27 but okay I'm gonna be honest I did not
1:00:31 but I was wondering about where
1:00:35 you know I would consider safety a
1:00:37 number one priority and I just wanted to
1:00:40 be sure that safety is one of the big
1:00:46 Criterion points
1:00:49 it is it is the the first Criterion uh
1:00:54 the header is legal mandate or
1:00:57 addressing life and safety concerns
1:01:01 okay because you did mention legal
1:01:03 mandate so I'm glad they're both up
1:01:06 there and so
1:01:08 that that was my major comment
1:01:15 thank you
1:01:17 anybody else
1:01:20 I think I would just agree that the
1:01:22 livability is a really hard one to
1:01:24 incorporate because it mean something
1:01:26 different for everyone
1:01:27 [Music]
1:01:30 so that and then under the environmental
1:01:33 section I thought those were good
1:01:35 ratings but one of the questions I had
1:01:37 was because by Nature how our community
1:01:41 is formed we've got a lot of rivers and
1:01:44 streams ditches
1:01:46 is there a consideration for mitigation
1:01:49 because there may be at some point in
1:01:51 time where there is a critical project
1:01:53 made in the CIP but you don't have a lot
1:01:56 of options other than to mitigate
1:02:01 thank you
1:02:05 those are the only things that stood out
1:02:07 to me but it was I thought it was
1:02:09 definitely improvement from the
1:02:11 community group input
1:02:13 I can't I can't wait to see what the
1:02:15 outcome is
1:02:17 because I'm most interested in that
1:02:23 um I just wanted to say that I did
1:02:25 appreciate this gun memo it's pretty
1:02:28 much a dressed
1:02:31 there was a lot of people in a lot of
1:02:33 constituents and a lot and I thought you
1:02:35 did a good job sort of navigating all
1:02:36 that and then that everything even
1:02:38 things that weren't really able to be
1:02:40 uh Incorporated were addressed as
1:02:43 opposed to just you know sometimes that
1:02:45 stuff
1:02:46 doesn't it doesn't happen and then you
1:02:49 don't know why and I felt like that was
1:02:50 really helpful and I just also wanted to
1:02:53 comment uh and you mentioned this in the
1:02:55 memo that you would
1:02:58 in front of me because then I could use
1:03:00 the right language but the idea that uh
1:03:02 the history of certain projects and the
1:03:05 concern about the idea that a project
1:03:08 might fear you know a project that
1:03:11 somebody wants Council wants and like
1:03:14 what's how did that get on here and does
1:03:16 it really meet all the criteria and the
1:03:18 comment leaving it there but bringing
1:03:21 that back to council about the concerns
1:03:22 about lack of transparency and so forth
1:03:24 I would just reiterate that and hope to
1:03:26 make sure that that gets um
1:03:28 I thought about this a lot just the
1:03:31 conceptually if um I mean at the end of
1:03:33 the day Council they are elected by the
1:03:36 people and they do get you know that is
1:03:38 their right to make decisions in the way
1:03:41 that they see fit and then if we don't
1:03:43 like it we don't have to realize them
1:03:45 the next time so there is a sorry I can
1:03:47 respect a certain amount of um
1:03:50 that um
1:03:52 just want to make sure that doesn't get
1:03:54 kind of brushed and nervous that that
1:03:56 I hope that you use those
1:03:58 rarely and wisely but I can understand
1:04:01 why an elected official might just say
1:04:03 well I don't care about all these
1:04:05 scripture I want you know I'm going to
1:04:07 vote for this project or whatever that
1:04:08 that's the end of the day they just have
1:04:10 to they're decision makers and more
1:04:12 advisors and so I just wanted to
1:04:14 reiterate that we
1:04:17 make sure that that doesn't get
1:04:24 and then also you answered my question
1:04:27 but I just want to confirm so when we
1:04:29 see the
1:04:30 sorry the tip gets adopted every year
1:04:33 but the tip that gets adopted in the CIP
1:04:36 year is one and the same
1:04:39 yes okay and so we will see that in
1:04:43 April
1:04:44 and then looking split it's going to go
1:04:46 to Council in May so we'll be seeing it
1:04:49 pretty late stage and of course we meet
1:04:51 late in April so
1:04:54 um I mean realistically by the time it
1:04:56 comes to us well we have much
1:04:58 opportunity to influence that
1:05:03 yes okay that is my answer uh
1:05:08 opportunity for sure
1:05:11 tabs input is important
1:05:14 there are always a lot of factors that
1:05:17 go into
1:05:19 how we recommend the proposed and then
1:05:23 of course the way in which
1:05:24 Administration will will look at that
1:05:26 final package but uh yes all of the so
1:05:32 whether or not it changes
1:05:34 the proposed document that's going over
1:05:36 to council maybe within you know a week
1:05:39 right right
1:05:41 um nevertheless the feedback or a tab
1:05:44 that's a forward and there's still
1:05:46 opportunities thereafter that's a great
1:05:48 thing to keep in mind yeah the
1:05:49 university Council has a little bit of
1:05:51 time to work with in terms of like what
1:05:54 if they hear or something
1:06:04 it's already built in at the time
1:06:07 yeah and others provide an example last
1:06:09 year when we updated the tip we had
1:06:12 doing this planning study for the squawk
1:06:15 Mountain motorized project is the future
1:06:17 year project and the feedback that the
1:06:20 community and the council gave are hey
1:06:22 let's do that now so now we're
1:06:25 negotiating with the consultant to get
1:06:28 that work done and that's exactly what
1:06:30 happened is we presented it to the
1:06:34 council and they wanted to change but
1:06:36 made it
1:06:46 yes okay great thank you hi this is
1:06:49 Andrea Snyder Deputy City administrator
1:06:52 and I just wanted to add that when we
1:06:54 come back to you next month we're going
1:06:55 to have a draft of that tip and our main
1:06:58 questions for you are going to revolve
1:07:00 around the criteria and how we have
1:07:03 applied those criteria right and so that
1:07:06 the the feedback that we're looking for
1:07:08 you to receive from you is boy you
1:07:11 didn't really apply this right would
1:07:13 have applied it differently
1:07:15 um it looks like maybe we don't have the
1:07:18 right type of criteria because we really
1:07:19 really had expected to see this type of
1:07:22 project and we didn't right or for this
1:07:25 group especially being the the the
1:07:29 Shepherds of the master Mobility plan to
1:07:32 say well wait a second
1:07:34 um you know we had this suggested tib
1:07:36 doesn't seem to fit
1:07:39 um what the MMP would imply or what we
1:07:41 would have think the MMP would
1:07:44 would provide for in a tip and so I
1:07:48 think that's the type of information
1:07:49 that we're looking at feedback from you
1:07:51 we're not going to have an opportunity
1:07:53 for you to propose all new projects the
1:07:56 city hasn't considered right so
1:07:58 um you've heard that from me if if you
1:08:01 were able to attend the summit uh I'm
1:08:03 going to say it again because I know
1:08:04 that that can be really hard we all have
1:08:06 these projects we see around town boy
1:08:08 wouldn't it be great if we can do X Y or
1:08:10 C and that's not really the time to
1:08:12 introduce those projects the projects
1:08:14 that we're bringing to you have been
1:08:15 vetted they've been carefully considered
1:08:17 we have cost estimates it takes a lot as
1:08:20 Emily and John know more than anybody
1:08:22 else in this room it takes a lot to pull
1:08:24 all those project ideas together and all
1:08:26 that information together for you so
1:08:28 that next meeting for this group next
1:08:31 month is really going to be focusing on
1:08:33 here's the suite of projects we have in
1:08:35 the draft tip how well did we apply
1:08:38 those criteria uh if they're not the
1:08:41 right projects if it doesn't seem to
1:08:42 meet expectations if it doesn't seem to
1:08:44 what has been put forth in the master
1:08:47 Mobility plan then we want to hear from
1:08:49 that type of information from you
1:08:52 thank you Deputy Administrator Snyder I
1:08:56 think it's really helpful and I think
1:08:57 it's important
1:08:58 um in a way I mean we're all always
1:09:00 learning and I think that if we don't
1:09:03 see the projects but we it ends up being
1:09:05 a way to pressure test the criteria
1:09:07 right and pressure test did we you know
1:09:10 as the criteria reflect the values of
1:09:12 the MMP
1:09:14 um and so
1:09:15 that may be a much longer conversation I
1:09:18 also would just
1:09:20 I think that if we do get into any
1:09:22 distractions it'll be helpful to remind
1:09:28 in terms of like project specifically
1:09:30 how that issue that some projects in
1:09:35 somebody's mind might
1:09:36 um come up how that issue needs to be
1:09:38 addressed and what the life cycle of a
1:09:40 particular project might be so that we
1:09:43 um so I've noticed sometimes when you
1:09:45 sit on boards
1:09:46 now is not the time but help us remind
1:09:50 us when the time is
1:09:52 um so that we don't feel like we're
1:09:55 always too late or whatever you know um
1:09:57 and I don't think this board I mean this
1:10:00 board has been together for a while
1:10:01 we've got a lot of experienced people I
1:10:03 don't think you're gonna see except for
1:10:05 that maybe the corner North Northwest to
1:10:08 talk about a new Ford where there's all
1:10:09 those barrels where it was crazy I'm
1:10:12 just kidding um you're not gonna this is
1:10:14 a fairly sophisticated group and I don't
1:10:16 think you're going to see a bunch of
1:10:17 random you know project suggestions but
1:10:19 if anything does come up let's just make
1:10:21 sure we kind of
1:10:23 address how that would get into the
1:10:26 system as opposed to just yeah we can't
1:10:28 do that now
1:10:30 and then uh I forget what else is going
1:10:33 to say but Dave has something he wants
1:10:34 to say
1:10:35 so what are we going to look like in
1:10:39 April
1:10:42 what's the tab going to look like in
1:10:44 April
1:10:45 um yeah they don't start until May so
1:10:49 basically what she what Andrea was
1:10:52 talking to was those of us in the room
1:10:55 and uh our couple of absentees so we'll
1:11:03 expected to have some good answers and
1:11:10 yeah I think no I'm getting nervous of
1:11:12 the service because I'm like you you
1:11:15 know I didn't
1:11:18 Jerry wasn't the only one that didn't
1:11:20 read the memo it wasn't because I didn't
1:11:22 want to I just was
1:11:24 unoverwhelmed like I usually am every
1:11:27 day of the week and uh uh I I just
1:11:30 didn't get to it so now I'm getting that
1:11:33 nervous feeling that we're not gonna
1:11:35 have the proper answers that the council
1:11:39 is going to want us to have
1:11:41 when we get to April
1:11:44 and I want to avoid that and so on
1:11:47 saying out loud how do we do that how do
1:11:50 we avoid to make sure that we have the
1:11:54 answers
1:11:56 that they need and want
1:11:59 through this board
1:12:02 foreign
1:12:15 not gotten a chance to review materials
1:12:17 on occasion and I think it's super
1:12:19 productive when people can talk to that
1:12:20 but we do I think this of all the topics
1:12:24 that we'll face in a year I think this
1:12:26 is one of the most important and just
1:12:27 really part about the time uh to spend
1:12:30 to make sure that we and projects are
1:12:32 going to move along and um now now that
1:12:35 will be the time so I don't have any
1:12:37 other ideas except just to encourage
1:12:39 each other to make each other
1:12:40 accountable and and just these guys work
1:12:42 really hard and they provide us the
1:12:43 opportunity
1:12:45 [Music]
1:12:48 yeah and so I'm very concerned about
1:12:51 that and
1:12:55 there's a lot on my plate and I'm not
1:12:58 trying to excuse that way it's like
1:13:02 putting out buyers every day this is not
1:13:04 a fire this is a honor this is a
1:13:07 privilege that we get to be able to
1:13:09 influence
1:13:12 a city's decision and and that's huge
1:13:15 I just don't wanna
1:13:19 you've heard me you you know what I'm
1:13:22 trying to say so it's big and I I just
1:13:26 want to make sure we're giving them the
1:13:28 answers that will scare them in the
1:13:31 right direction
1:13:33 and to spend the time we need to spend
1:13:37 to get ready to do that and I'm saying
1:13:40 that out loud to this board and uh
1:13:44 and that's what we we've got to do
1:13:48 so I looked at the desk I'm up to being
1:13:51 ready but I can't do this by myself and
1:13:54 uh I'm I'm just saying now alcohol is
1:13:58 Madam chair that uh you gotta get us a
1:14:02 plan and figure out how we're gonna get
1:14:06 there with that information what we've
1:14:08 gotta kind of review and know
1:14:11 to make those decisions is that wrong
1:14:14 I don't mean that to be a burden I mean
1:14:17 that as
1:14:19 send me in coach but I I need to know
1:14:22 what play you want us to play
1:14:27 and wait I I think we can help
1:14:31 um I think as a deputy City
1:14:33 administrator just mentioned I I think
1:14:35 it will help to be very explicit about
1:14:38 the role
1:14:40 and the task
1:14:42 um that we're asking uh all of you to
1:14:45 complete and she was wise and pointing
1:14:49 out that the discussion is not going to
1:14:52 be about
1:14:55 individual projects and uh the scope of
1:15:01 each of those projects or you know where
1:15:03 the fire hydrants are going to be placed
1:15:05 on the road improvements but uh the
1:15:08 conversation will be more about
1:15:15 um does it look like we have applied
1:15:17 that in a way that makes sense and your
1:15:21 feedback on do we have
1:15:26 projects that you think are are helping
1:15:29 us to advance the mobility master plan
1:15:33 and broader I will say kinds of feedback
1:15:38 that we will be looking for we will be
1:15:40 explicit about that
1:15:42 in the memo
1:15:44 in advance of that the other thing that
1:15:46 I've heard you say is uh let's give
1:15:49 people heads up if this is this is a
1:15:52 bigger meeting
1:15:54 um there might be more to read and I I
1:15:57 think we can do that I think uh the
1:15:59 board leadership
1:16:01 um and John and I and John the other
1:16:04 John uh will be communicating over the
1:16:07 next few weeks about progress on board
1:16:12 appointments on
1:16:14 meeting schedules getting those
1:16:16 appointments reset for example and I
1:16:20 think we can use those opportunities to
1:16:22 also communicate what's coming
1:16:25 um and to help build that readiness and
1:16:27 we will certainly do our best as well in
1:16:30 the meeting materials to provide you
1:16:34 what you need during the course of the
1:16:36 meeting we have one meeting it's one
1:16:39 topic of I think two on that meeting
1:16:42 so we we have to be really
1:16:46 um cognizant of what can be accomplished
1:16:48 in that time
1:16:50 thank you thanks yep we can do this
1:16:55 um great I don't have any other
1:16:56 questions Jerry do you have any other
1:16:57 comments or questions anybody else
1:17:01 um thank you um thank you
1:17:03 um Andrea for coming and um I feel like
1:17:05 we got the
1:17:06 we've got all kinds of great minds here
1:17:09 um and we'll get this done so uh with
1:17:11 that I think we are ready to close that
1:17:14 topic
1:17:16 um so that brings us to item 5A which is
1:17:19 the board work plan and it sounds like
1:17:21 you did you just print out just a one
1:17:23 copy or did you print out those students
1:17:25 yeah and I can also share it let's share
1:17:27 on the screen that'd be great yeah
1:17:29 thanks thank you
1:17:41 are you bringing it up John oh great
1:17:43 thanks
1:17:45 all right did it
1:17:49 the next time
1:17:53 that we're talking about yeah
1:17:56 that's cool
1:17:59 oh yeah yeah okay
1:18:03 yeah okay
1:18:06 all right
1:18:08 so up here we've got the work plan
1:18:10 showing what we've already gone over
1:18:12 this group and what's coming up over the
1:18:14 next three months in April we have the
1:18:19 big CIP discussion that we just spend a
1:18:22 lot of time talking about
1:18:24 we also have the transit shuttle this is
1:18:27 the one that came out of trying to
1:18:29 provide
1:18:30 transit to the squawk and Alice
1:18:32 neighborhoods and we now have a proposal
1:18:35 that we'll be bringing to the tab that
1:18:37 would work on
1:18:43 in May
1:18:45 continuing on the transit shuttle will
1:18:47 be a draft contract to get feedback on
1:18:50 as well as the transit gaps analysis
1:18:53 that Thomas has been talking about
1:18:55 earlier
1:18:56 and then in June we have training for
1:18:59 open public meetings and public record
1:19:02 trip Act
1:19:04 and I'll I'll add there may be other
1:19:06 topics of training for that meeting and
1:19:09 I I think there is some other discussion
1:19:14 about where when
1:19:17 um and to what degree we want to do
1:19:19 training as we spoke about tonight um
1:19:22 comprehensive master plan and the
1:19:24 mobility Minister plan and
1:19:26 I wanted to add that regardless of what
1:19:30 we do in the June meeting we are
1:19:33 anticipating
1:19:34 staff members sitting down with new
1:19:38 members of the tab and trying to give
1:19:40 them a little higher a little touch and
1:19:44 background on each of those plans so
1:19:46 that they can come to the first meeting
1:19:48 feeling relatively comfortable in their
1:19:51 understanding that those documents in
1:19:53 particular
1:19:55 but I I've also heard from the board and
1:19:58 from you tonight that there's a desire
1:20:00 for at least a refresher course and so
1:20:05 we can continue to talk about how we
1:20:07 might be able to deliver on that wish
1:20:11 great
1:20:12 any more any questions on the boardwalk
1:20:20 great uh moving along we do we have a
1:20:23 staff report
1:20:25 I feel like we have done that throughout
1:20:28 yeah yeah we don't have anything else to
1:20:30 happen okay
1:20:33 um then that leaves us with the chair
1:20:35 report and I just wanted to mention that
1:20:37 we had interviewed several candidates
1:20:39 for the tab
1:20:41 um it's not been resolved yet but uh I
1:20:44 personally was really excited about the
1:20:45 quality of candidates that we're
1:20:48 interested so that was really great
1:20:51 um the only bad news is and
1:20:53 um at this point we didn't have the
1:20:55 youth seat is required to be reserved
1:20:58 for Youth and we don't have a use an
1:21:01 interested Youth and so that will end up
1:21:03 remaining an open seat but we should
1:21:05 hopefully hopefully fill the others
1:21:09 um also I'm just gonna on a kind of
1:21:11 personal leadership note
1:21:14 about my myself basically uh I just
1:21:18 thought it would be worth mentioning
1:21:19 here in April because we'll be bouncing
1:21:21 into this or this is March it feels like
1:21:23 April because it's so I'm reading so
1:21:25 late this month but I just wanted to put
1:21:27 this out there kind of going on the line
1:21:28 and say I am a big believer in rotation
1:21:30 and Leadership and I don't think you
1:21:32 should have the same chair year in and
1:21:33 year out
1:21:34 um but I am planning on seeking
1:21:40 me for the next year just because of the
1:21:43 fact that um we have
1:21:46 um we are we we have John our Rock but
1:21:49 we have been Public Works director and a
1:21:50 new staff liaison and it just feels like
1:21:52 a good year to have maybe consistency in
1:21:55 the leadership of the board so I uh will
1:21:57 be seeking that again for one more year
1:22:00 and then hopefully someone else will
1:22:02 um be interested in picking up that role
1:22:05 I also just wanted to point out there is
1:22:07 a bit of a I think of it as a bug in the
1:22:09 code it technically means the month of
1:22:11 May without a chair and a vice chair and
1:22:13 so that prep meeting
1:22:16 um is then
1:22:18 um either can't happen or is happening
1:22:20 with someone who's is making an
1:22:21 assumption that they're going to be re
1:22:23 uh or re-elected from United and I would
1:22:27 say in the interest of transparency over
1:22:30 uh I will choose efficiency over being
1:22:32 technically correct and I would be happy
1:22:35 to serve as acting chair for that period
1:22:38 um so it's kind of a minor point but I
1:22:40 just want to make it clear
1:22:42 um that I feel I would feel awkward
1:22:45 doing a job that it was technically
1:22:48 because they're supposed to be appointed
1:22:49 in the main meeting and so and then you
1:22:51 end an April 30th so it's just a silly
1:22:55 little glitch but I just wanted to be
1:22:57 open about that so I'm not interested in
1:22:59 a power crap I just
1:23:04 I'm really um
1:23:06 anxious to you know to pass this on
1:23:08 eventually but it just feels like right
1:23:10 now is maybe a good time just to serve
1:23:11 one more year so that will be I will be
1:23:13 seeking nomination um for that uh and
1:23:16 that's all I have to share
1:23:20 Vice chair but uh and then that sounds
1:23:24 like um unless we have any other
1:23:25 business or announcements
1:23:29 no no I think so
1:23:34 question
1:23:37 point of order
1:23:39 can we or can we not uh elect a
1:23:43 temporary chair
1:23:45 at this meeting to guide us through
1:23:48 until we
1:23:50 we don't have a point a new chair we
1:23:52 elect a new chair correct you the chair
1:23:55 is elected chair and my shirt elected in
1:23:57 May and determines full track and we
1:24:01 don't have that but we could elect a
1:24:04 temporary chair until
1:24:08 um I'm not sure it's necessary my my
1:24:11 strategy was just to mention it and
1:24:12 hearing no obligation was just going to
1:24:14 move forward with that because I just I
1:24:17 wasn't too super super worried about it
1:24:19 I thought you guys would want me to see
1:24:21 that but if you guys would feel more
1:24:22 comfortable
1:24:23 um actually making that formal I mean
1:24:24 our clerk is was here at the beginning
1:24:26 of the name she's gone I'm not I'm not
1:24:28 sure it's particularly I don't think
1:24:30 it's necessary and it is a standard
1:24:32 practice under Robert's Rules and often
1:24:35 in bylaws and often in ordinances that
1:24:37 it is stated as the chair serves until
1:24:40 that new election of hers it does say
1:24:43 the chair serves until the last time I
1:24:45 checked it says the chair serves through
1:24:48 April through April and that's what
1:24:51 you're saying about it was weird and I
1:24:52 understand that when you're saying this
1:24:53 is not an unusual thing I'm I'm saying
1:24:55 it's not necessarily unusual and when
1:24:58 there's
1:24:59 um uh sometimes that Gap right between
1:25:04 um the moment when an appointment occurs
1:25:07 um it's usually resolved by some
1:25:10 language that says that the past year
1:25:12 continues to serve until one no one is
1:25:14 appointed Okay so
1:25:16 if this ordinance lacks that language
1:25:18 but I could be wrong but that's what was
1:25:20 mine that
1:25:23 um I don't think there's any concern and
1:25:24 I don't think the mortgage Act
1:25:27 if it's okay with you I I don't feel
1:25:29 like we need to act are you cool
1:25:31 we're we're just going to make you the
1:25:33 stuff to eat that's all right
1:25:35 it was
1:25:37 a good thing
1:25:39 oh thank you I appreciate the vote of
1:25:41 confidence it's just
1:25:43 uh if that's what needs to take place to
1:25:46 make sure the tab had that cover that we
1:25:50 we could do that right now
1:25:55 um but it sounds to me like you're wrong
1:26:00 someone decides we need to do it it
1:26:02 could be done anymore yeah yeah yeah
1:26:05 I keep thinking that was in the next
1:26:07 month I guess this meeting is so late in
1:26:09 the morning
1:26:11 I think all we have for the day and um
1:26:16 we should adjourn
1:26:18 I'm gonna turn this meeting early it's 7
1:26:20 30 7 31. thank you everybody
1:26:23 thank you to all the staff hi everyone