Transportation Advisory Board · Wednesday, March 29, 2023 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of February 22, 2023

packet pp.3–4

Open packet at p.3 ↗

Staff report:

CITY OF ISSAQUAH Transportation Advisory Board 6:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. February 22, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

Minutes of Special Meeting on February 16

packet pp.5–7

Open packet at p.5 ↗

Staff report:

- Transportation Advisory Board (TAB) feedback: o Identified resources should include long-term maintenance costs of the capital asset. o The board felt that the environmental criteria was not explicit enough and could include some contradictory grading as projects could have a negative

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

Transit Plan Update

Information · Thomas Valdriz, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.9–10

Topics: Transportation

▶ Watch from 5:39 Open packet at p.9 ↗

Staff report:

At the March 22nd Transportation Advisory Board (TAB) meeting, the Administration will provide an update on public participation efforts related to the Transit Study, including the Transit Study Open House Event that was held on March 21st, 2023. Staff will also provide a quick demonstration of the Transit Study’s online survey and web map tools, which will allow Board members and other members of the public to provide feedback on ways to improve transit accessibility throughout the City.

Capital Improvements Plan (CIP) Criteria (I)

Emily Moon, Public Works Director · packet pp.11–21

Topics: Budget

Previously discussed: City Council Regular Meeting · Feb 13, 2023

▶ Watch from 44:32 Open packet at p.11 ↗

Staff report:

The purpose of this memo is to summarize the changes made to the project selection criteria for the 2024-2029 Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) in response to feedback received by City advisory boards and the City Council.

5. REPORTS

Board Work Plan

packet pp.23

Open packet at p.23 ↗

Staff report:

Items Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun NW Sammamish Rd Non-Motorized Project Intro ITS Plan Projects Transit Plan Update Gap Analysis Issaquah Boards Summit Special Meeting Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) Criteria Projects Transit Shuttle Proposal Draft Contract Open Public Meetings & Public Records Act Training

Staff Report

Chair Report

1982 segments .txt ↗

0:01 ↗ all right uh good evening everyone I'd

0:04 ↗ like to welcome you all to the regular

0:06 ↗ monthly well no this is a special

0:08 ↗ meeting we

0:09 ↗ um rescheduled it the regular one from

0:11 ↗ last week to this week uh of the meeting

0:13 ↗ of the transportation Advisory Board my

0:15 ↗ name is Cynthia Crest I'm currently

0:17 ↗ serving as the chair and before we begin

0:19 ↗ I do want to acknowledge that we have

0:22 ↗ lost our esteemed Isabel

0:25 ↗ um she's moved on to other opportunities

0:26 ↗ so our staff liaison uh Isabel is no

0:31 ↗ wonder with the City of Issaquah and um

0:33 ↗ we all wish her well and we'll miss her

0:36 ↗ for sure

0:37 ↗ um tonight we are in the capable hands

0:39 ↗ of Emily about work

0:41 ↗ it works during John Mortensen the

0:44 ↗ um

0:45 ↗ transportation engineering manager uh

0:48 ↗ and I want to thank you guys for that

0:51 ↗ you're ever to make this as smooth as

0:53 ↗ possible and we'll just take a moment

0:54 ↗ and let Emily talk about the future of

0:57 ↗ the staff position yeah love to thank

1:00 ↗ you so I am um also very thankful for

1:04 ↗ the good work that Isabel did

1:08 ↗ um being a scaffolding one is an

1:10 ↗ important job for City staff member

1:13 ↗ um and so we try to make those

1:16 ↗ appointments in a thoughtful way and I'm

1:19 ↗ uh really excited to tell you that we

1:23 ↗ have made another appointment for the

1:25 ↗ reasons so hopefully this is this is the

1:28 ↗ only meeting where you get to see the

1:30 ↗ John Emily Duo show

1:33 ↗ um piecing it together and we have asked

1:37 ↗ John Larson friend uh who is our

1:40 ↗ transportation program coordinator hi

1:42 ↗ John

1:43 ↗ uh if he would be willing to serve and

1:46 ↗ I'm also very happy to tell you that

1:49 ↗ John asks as well and that makes a big

1:53 ↗ difference he's very eager

1:55 ↗ um to work with all of you he's very

1:58 ↗ passionate about Transportation

2:01 ↗ um he's uh plain and increasing role

2:04 ↗ even in the region as he develops his

2:08 ↗ Network and his knowledge and so we're

2:12 ↗ very very glad that he's part of our

2:14 ↗ team and we look forward to all the good

2:17 ↗ work that he will do with you so John's

2:20 ↗ here virtually tonight thank goodness

2:22 ↗ because he's under the weather too so we

2:25 ↗ don't want him here in person

2:27 ↗ um just to get introduced and in a

2:29 ↗ second I'm going to ask him if he could

2:31 ↗ just give us the you know quick quick

2:34 ↗ bio to refresh your memories around his

2:36 ↗ background

2:37 ↗ and then uh he will assume the

2:42 ↗ responsibilities of The Possession for

2:44 ↗ next month's meeting and in between

2:46 ↗ beginning some training and working with

2:48 ↗ the tap leadership to kind of talk about

2:51 ↗ expectations meeting management and all

2:54 ↗ those good things

2:56 ↗ so John you want to give your your

2:59 ↗ background spiel

3:01 ↗ yeah absolutely

3:02 ↗ uh yeah I've been feeling a little weird

3:04 ↗ today so just wanted to to make sure

3:07 ↗ that I didn't pass anything

3:09 ↗ um so yeah I am John Larson's friend

3:12 ↗ um I should know most if not all of you

3:14 ↗ you're all a very small in my in my

3:17 ↗ screen so I can't tell exactly who's

3:19 ↗ there but um yeah I I've had the

3:21 ↗ pleasure of presenting to you of you all

3:24 ↗ a few times to this body and uh it's

3:26 ↗ always such a great conversation so I'm

3:27 ↗ very excited uh to come aboard a little

3:30 ↗ bit of background about me hopefully

3:32 ↗ quick quick maybe quick uh

3:35 ↗ I'm a Pacific Northwest Native I was

3:37 ↗ born and raised in Portland uh but I

3:39 ↗ have lived in the midwest in Los Angeles

3:41 ↗ so I have some experience around the

3:43 ↗ country I attended the University of

3:45 ↗ Oregon uh their community and Regional

3:47 ↗ planning master's program graduated in

3:49 ↗ 2021. so I was a pandemic student so we

3:52 ↗ can talk about that sometime I moved to

3:55 ↗ Seattle in late 2021 and uh was hired at

3:59 ↗ the city uh thereafter

4:02 ↗ at the city of the transportation

4:03 ↗ program coordinator uh this position was

4:06 ↗ created to try to bring a neighborhood

4:08 ↗ shuttle to Issaquah which we'll talk

4:10 ↗ about next month

4:12 ↗ um other projects that I I'm in charge

4:15 ↗ of include the trip uh

4:17 ↗ Action Program traffic calming programs

4:20 ↗ guac Mountain non-motorized Improvement

4:22 ↗ project and now the table liaison so

4:25 ↗ yeah it's great to be here I'm really

4:26 ↗ excited to be with you in person next

4:29 ↗ month and a whole bunch of months maybe

4:31 ↗ years after that so thanks everybody

4:35 ↗ great thank you

4:38 ↗ welcome welcome yay it's very exciting

4:41 ↗ thanks so thanks Emily for walking us

4:43 ↗ through that that's great I had a good

4:45 ↗ conversation with John at the transit uh

4:48 ↗ plan Community town hall and I'm really

4:52 ↗ excited to have it on okay

4:54 ↗ terrific thank you

4:57 ↗ okay well let's uh we'll move along and

5:00 ↗ the next we have the minutes I'm seeking

5:01 ↗ approval of the regular February months

5:03 ↗ and minutes and the February 16th

5:05 ↗ special joint session minutes by

5:07 ↗ unanimous consent as presented

5:11 ↗ hearing no objection the minutes are

5:14 ↗ approved as presented

5:17 ↗ uh that brings us to the regular

5:20 ↗ business oh I'm sorry public comment do

5:23 ↗ we have anybody interested in making

5:25 ↗ them a comment

5:27 ↗ I'm looking to see if anyone's online

5:29 ↗ I'm not seeing anyone

5:31 ↗ okay well I'm gonna go ahead and

5:35 ↗ close a couple comment then

5:37 ↗ um and

5:39 ↗ brings us to regular business uh and

5:42 ↗ the first iPhone agenda is a Transit

5:44 ↗ client update someone turn that over to

5:46 ↗ Thomas and then

5:48 ↗ um

5:49 ↗ I have a couple comments to make before

5:51 ↗ we move to the next item so after Thomas

5:54 ↗ goes well I'll

5:56 ↗ segue to the next as after that uh

6:00 ↗ Thomas are you ready

6:05 ↗ we can't hear you we can see hear me now

6:14 ↗ can you hear me no we can yes thank you

6:17 ↗ okay great

6:19 ↗ awesome uh thanks uh for the opportunity

6:22 ↗ to present to you all today

6:24 ↗ um I wanted to just provide a update on

6:28 ↗ how the transit studies going and just

6:31 ↗ sort of talk about uh how Outreach has

6:35 ↗ been going and then I just wanted to

6:36 ↗ briefly touch on some ways that you all

6:40 ↗ can provide some feedback right now

6:44 ↗ um yeah so uh Vice chair uh maidel had

6:49 ↗ mentioned uh we had an open house uh so

6:51 ↗ that was last week I'll briefly touch on

6:53 ↗ that uh and then we have a online survey

6:56 ↗ and a web map that has been created

6:59 ↗ which will be open uh for another week

7:02 ↗ or so so it's been open for about a

7:04 ↗ month I'll briefly sort of talk about uh

7:08 ↗ some high level summary statistics of

7:11 ↗ what we've seen so far and then I'll

7:13 ↗ talk about next steps

7:16 ↗ so uh you know we kicked off this

7:19 ↗ project uh in Fall so since then we've

7:25 ↗ developed a project website we've done

7:28 ↗ several social media posts uh we

7:31 ↗ conducted an open house last week

7:34 ↗ and we have a web map and online survey

7:37 ↗ that is currently active to date we've

7:40 ↗ reached out to 24 so actually we've

7:44 ↗ reached out to like 70 organizations and

7:46 ↗ I've spoken with 24

7:48 ↗ organizations around the city

7:51 ↗ um

7:53 ↗ our goal is to really try to get diverse

7:55 ↗ voices for the transit studies so the

7:58 ↗ interest that we've been able to capture

8:01 ↗ along this process have been you know

8:04 ↗ seniors uh youth Transportation advocacy

8:07 ↗ Human Services organizations uh lots of

8:12 ↗ folks from the business Community the

8:14 ↗ community at Large

8:15 ↗ and then as well as uh you know the tab

8:19 ↗ EVC you know other City boards and

8:22 ↗ commissions we've also reached out to

8:24 ↗ the city council and other government

8:28 ↗ agencies so

8:30 ↗ you just gotten started but you know

8:32 ↗ we're on a good track right now we're

8:35 ↗ still reaching out to a lot of folks um

8:39 ↗ this morning I spoke with the Kiwanis so

8:41 ↗ just you know actively actively whenever

8:44 ↗ possible folding in

8:46 ↗ um going to where people are currently

8:49 ↗ meeting I'm going to where it's

8:51 ↗ convenient for them to provide feedback

8:53 ↗ so

8:54 ↗ we're on a we're on a good track and uh

8:57 ↗ I'm pretty excited about how we're doing

8:59 ↗ with the transit study so far

9:03 ↗ so yeah Transit study open house was

9:06 ↗ pretty successful we had 15 participants

9:09 ↗ uh

9:10 ↗ including one of our very own tab

9:12 ↗ members that was pretty awesome uh and

9:15 ↗ then we had five staff members which

9:16 ↗ included uh two from our consultant team

9:20 ↗ some of the themes that we heard uh at

9:23 ↗ this event were things related to a span

9:27 ↗ of service and like weekend service for

9:29 ↗ for Transit

9:31 ↗ also lots of interest in flexible

9:34 ↗ options and just general uh more

9:36 ↗ transportation choices

9:38 ↗ we had a lot of folks who

9:41 ↗ you know

9:42 ↗ we're not driving as often as they used

9:45 ↗ to so um you know lots of interest in

9:48 ↗ you know providing options uh Beyond

9:50 ↗ just a vehicle

9:53 ↗ um

9:54 ↗ and some of the other interesting things

9:56 ↗ that we heard were uh you know related

9:59 ↗ to

10:01 ↗ creating a culture of writing Transit so

10:04 ↗ I thought that was pretty interesting a

10:06 ↗ lot of folks were interested in making

10:08 ↗ it fun making it cool and

10:12 ↗ more comfortable to ride around

10:15 ↗ um on a bus around town so

10:18 ↗ yep filter is sort of the the general uh

10:20 ↗ high-level details

10:22 ↗ um

10:23 ↗ and

10:24 ↗ another sort of major thing was just

10:26 ↗ incentivizing ridership on Transit so

10:29 ↗ some big picture uh things were

10:31 ↗ mentioned but also we went in the weeds

10:33 ↗ a little bit talking about uh you know

10:35 ↗ how Services currently being provided

10:37 ↗ and some of the deficiencies uh that

10:40 ↗ we're seeing and felt so

10:45 ↗ that's about it for the open house but

10:48 ↗ at the open house we also you know

10:50 ↗ talked about other ways that people

10:51 ↗ could get involved and I'll show you in

10:54 ↗ a minute how that has improved our

10:56 ↗ Outreach

10:58 ↗ um so this is the project website that's

11:00 ↗ been developed and the URL is

11:04 ↗ is.gov and then some numbers and Transit

11:08 ↗ study you could easily find that with a

11:09 ↗ quick Google search for Transit study

11:12 ↗ ways that people can get involved if if

11:15 ↗ you're not actively on the website like

11:17 ↗ most people

11:18 ↗ um you can click a subscribe button

11:21 ↗ right on the website and any updates

11:24 ↗ that we provide will be pushed out to

11:27 ↗ your email

11:29 ↗ in addition to that there's my contact

11:31 ↗ information and several folks have

11:33 ↗ emailed me directly I've had many

11:36 ↗ conversations with people along the way

11:38 ↗ so that's been pretty good to have just

11:40 ↗ direct open lines of communication with

11:43 ↗ anybody that wants to talk Transit

11:46 ↗ yeah

11:48 ↗ um

11:52 ↗ we've also developed a uh a web map

11:55 ↗ which has been

11:57 ↗ very heavily used so no

12:00 ↗ Thomas I'm sorry interrupt could you go

12:03 ↗ back to that last slide um

12:06 ↗ right net website down thanks

12:16 ↗ God thank you

12:18 ↗ very cool okay

12:19 ↗ um so here's another uh

12:22 ↗ here's another link uh so this is also

12:25 ↗ found on that website this is a

12:28 ↗ interactive web map

12:30 ↗ um and it operates very similar to

12:32 ↗ Google Maps so there's like pins you can

12:34 ↗ drop

12:36 ↗ um a lot of folks this is actually a

12:38 ↗ screenshot from uh I think like two

12:40 ↗ hours ago that I took

12:43 ↗ um this is where people have

12:46 ↗ provided comments uh things to improve

12:49 ↗ uh things that they like other sort of

12:53 ↗ Transit bike and pedestrian comments

12:58 ↗ there's also if folks are uncomfortable

13:01 ↗ with the buttons uh putting it directly

13:03 ↗ on the map there's a handy email button

13:06 ↗ so that sends an email directly to me

13:08 ↗ another option

13:10 ↗ for folks to provide feedback

13:13 ↗ and

13:15 ↗ again is the link so it's a it's a it's

13:18 ↗ a truncated web link but it's like bit

13:21 ↗ dot l y forward slash isqua Transit

13:28 ↗ and this is some analytics that we

13:31 ↗ pulled uh from a couple hours ago

13:34 ↗ so thus far there's been 572 visits on

13:39 ↗ that site

13:40 ↗ 179 unique users

13:43 ↗ the average time spent on the website

13:45 ↗ has been just under two minutes

13:48 ↗ and

13:49 ↗ uh yeah I mean we're receiving a lot of

13:52 ↗ feedback uh up until the transit study

13:55 ↗ and sorry up until the trend study open

13:58 ↗ house and then you can see

14:00 ↗ I'll get my cursor here

14:03 ↗ we had a pretty big jump

14:05 ↗ right after that study open house so

14:07 ↗ that's been pretty cool to see very

14:09 ↗ validating

14:10 ↗ um on our end

14:12 ↗ um but yeah so this this website and

14:16 ↗ I'll go back real quick

14:18 ↗ um this website uh will be open for just

14:22 ↗ about another week it closes on the 6th

14:25 ↗ so

14:27 ↗ uh if you know anybody who's interested

14:29 ↗ in this feel free to share this with

14:32 ↗ them we would appreciate all the

14:34 ↗ comments we can get

14:36 ↗ um of course like once this website

14:38 ↗ closes we're still open to receiving

14:40 ↗ feedback but this would be like a really

14:42 ↗ handy way

14:44 ↗ um to get it is

14:45 ↗ on a map that'd be very helpful

14:50 ↗ lastly I just wanted to share we have a

14:53 ↗ survey so this is an another way that

14:57 ↗ people can provide feedback it provides

14:59 ↗ different data it's it's um there's a

15:01 ↗ series of questions it takes about six

15:03 ↗ minutes to take

15:06 ↗ yeah we've had pretty good responses on

15:09 ↗ this uh so far and again I pulled this a

15:12 ↗ couple hours ago

15:14 ↗ um we've had 232 responses on the survey

15:17 ↗ so pretty great for that

15:19 ↗ um and this is just a screenshot of the

15:23 ↗ first question uh one thing I forgot to

15:25 ↗ mention is that both that wet nap and

15:28 ↗ this survey are translatable in some

15:30 ↗ multiple languages

15:32 ↗ um and so the survey we we have it set

15:35 ↗ to translate to English Mandarin and

15:38 ↗ Spanish

15:39 ↗ yeah so we can see that there's uh you

15:42 ↗ know 11 of the respondents

15:44 ↗ um have taken the survey in Mandarin

15:46 ↗ which is pretty great and then about 89

15:50 ↗ have taken it in English so again

15:56 ↗ um this will be open for about another

15:57 ↗ week

15:58 ↗ um something great if you could share

16:01 ↗ this or take it yourself if you haven't

16:02 ↗ taken it um

16:04 ↗ again after this survey closes after

16:07 ↗ that web map is closed you can always

16:10 ↗ reach out to me and I'm always happy to

16:12 ↗ receive your feedback

16:16 ↗ and for anybody who's super handy uh

16:19 ↗ with a smartphone you can

16:22 ↗ go to your camera I have a I have an

16:24 ↗ apple so you can go to your camera go to

16:26 ↗ the

16:27 ↗ camera feature and you can scan any of

16:30 ↗ these and they will pull up the web page

16:34 ↗ that you need

16:38 ↗ so next steps we're hoping to bring the

16:42 ↗ transit gaps analysis uh to you uh in a

16:46 ↗ couple months so

16:48 ↗ uh look forward for that

16:50 ↗ um this Transit apps analysis will uh be

16:54 ↗ based on a lot of analysis that has been

16:57 ↗ done

16:58 ↗ um based off the existing Transit

16:59 ↗ Network and lots of feedback that we've

17:02 ↗ received uh thus far so looking at ways

17:05 ↗ that uh you know if there's if there's

17:07 ↗ gaps in how uh Transit is currently

17:11 ↗ being provided based on desired commute

17:13 ↗ patterns and access to transit services

17:18 ↗ um we're gonna sort of talk about some

17:21 ↗ of the deficiencies and I'll have some

17:23 ↗ policy questions that I'll have for the

17:26 ↗ tap to weigh in on

17:29 ↗ um so

17:30 ↗ that's all I got and I'd be happy to

17:32 ↗ answer any questions

17:36 ↗ thank you Thomas um I have some

17:38 ↗ questions but I'm going to hold off and

17:39 ↗ defer to my colleagues Jared do you have

17:41 ↗ any questions

17:44 ↗ okay

17:46 ↗ I don't have any questions I'm just uh

17:49 ↗ it's a comment that is wonderful to see

17:51 ↗ this level of interest in

17:54 ↗ transits uh inputs mechanisms for this

17:58 ↗ study

17:59 ↗ um and I will say that the feedback and

18:01 ↗ the input that I was received I was at

18:04 ↗ the back of the room just listening to

18:05 ↗ what people are saying by doing some of

18:07 ↗ my own comments but

18:09 ↗ um

18:10 ↗ lots of Transit pants there lots of

18:13 ↗ people who wanted multimodal ways of

18:15 ↗ getting around the house

18:16 ↗ Scott I'd really encouraging to see that

18:19 ↗ level of support

18:21 ↗ um move forward in that respect

18:24 ↗ so yeah

18:32 ↗ um

18:34 ↗ apologize for Mr Roberta

18:37 ↗ severe cold the last thing you wanted

18:40 ↗ was was to be there but we had a

18:43 ↗ religious report we were really going to

18:45 ↗ go and I think I mentioned that the last

18:48 ↗ time we had a meeting we wanted to go

18:52 ↗ um

18:53 ↗ I'm always happy to hear about more

18:57 ↗ people wanting to ride with us because I

18:59 ↗ just think

19:02 ↗ after 52 years of driving when more

19:06 ↗ people getting interested in writing is

19:09 ↗ great

19:10 ↗ so I'm excited

19:12 ↗ I'm excited to see the future out here

19:14 ↗ with Trenton

19:17 ↗ hi thanks I had a couple questions

19:20 ↗ um and one of them was uh

19:23 ↗ well one of them was I I noticed that

19:25 ↗ there were zero so responded so far in

19:27 ↗ Spanish but I hope that I don't know um

19:30 ↗ I haven't paid enough attention so I

19:31 ↗ don't know if that's pretty standard but

19:33 ↗ I hope that we would continue to do that

19:34 ↗ even if we're not it's taking people a

19:36 ↗ while to recognize as it probably used

19:38 ↗ to not seeing that so I would hope that

19:40 ↗ we would continue to offer that if it's

19:43 ↗ even close remotely possible if I'm sure

19:47 ↗ it costs money but I think

19:49 ↗ we're serious about Equity making sure

19:51 ↗ you know even if people aren't doing it

19:55 ↗ yet just give them a chance um and uh it

19:58 ↗ was exciting to see even 11 non

20:01 ↗ non-english speakers or at least people

20:03 ↗ preferred it in another language

20:05 ↗ um I was curious about the business

20:08 ↗ Community

20:10 ↗ um and I was curious whether you were

20:12 ↗ able to reach people with Transit

20:14 ↗ dependent employees

20:17 ↗ um that was something I had been kind of

20:19 ↗ thinking about a little bit I talked to

20:20 ↗ somebody recently a local business with

20:24 ↗ a lot of Transit dependent employees and

20:26 ↗ I was curious whether you felt like your

20:28 ↗ business Community category was

20:30 ↗ capturing much of that and if so did

20:32 ↗ they have much to say

20:35 ↗ yeah yeah that's that's actually that is

20:38 ↗ something that came up

20:40 ↗ um when I was at Kiwanis this morning

20:43 ↗ um I think there's certainly I think we

20:46 ↗ need to do a little bit more uh for the

20:49 ↗ business Community

20:50 ↗ um

20:53 ↗ I have reached out to several businesses

20:56 ↗ um large employers specifically

20:58 ↗ um the general sense that I get is that

21:01 ↗ uh most of them

21:04 ↗ are not concerned about uh how things

21:08 ↗ are going right now

21:10 ↗ um I think the reason for that is that

21:14 ↗ a lot of a lot of how this uh study has

21:17 ↗ been looking at it's been looking at

21:19 ↗ like future kind of things and it may it

21:22 ↗ may sort of not be a tangible thing that

21:25 ↗ businesses feel

21:26 ↗ um is affecting them or like they can

21:28 ↗ make change on right now so I think some

21:31 ↗ uh some packaging and some um

21:34 ↗ some branding it needs to be needs to

21:36 ↗ happen so that's sort of my goal for the

21:38 ↗ next stretch is to reach out to more

21:41 ↗ businesses and sort of make it clear

21:43 ↗ that like the feedback that they're

21:46 ↗ getting will be like very useful in the

21:49 ↗ near term

21:50 ↗ foreign is it appropriate for me to make

21:52 ↗ a particular specific suggestion

21:57 ↗ uh I think that you should reach out to

21:59 ↗ the manager at MOD Pizza in the

22:01 ↗ highlands

22:03 ↗ let's say I had a conversation with her

22:04 ↗ about

22:05 ↗ Transit dependency in their employees

22:10 ↗ great yeah that's a great suggestion

22:12 ↗ um I'm happy to receive any other

22:15 ↗ um you know recommendations uh but yeah

22:18 ↗ there's been there's been a lot of

22:21 ↗ organizations that I've wanted to speak

22:24 ↗ with that haven't necessarily

22:27 ↗ uh been you know it just hasn't been

22:31 ↗ like a super big priority for them but

22:33 ↗ uh I'm certainly

22:35 ↗ I'm feeling pretty Scrappy and I'm gonna

22:37 ↗ keep reaching out to people and um I'd

22:40 ↗ I'd like to hear more from the business

22:42 ↗ Community for sure

22:52 ↗ um you could even Park expensive um I

22:55 ↗ was also curious if in this all this

22:57 ↗ feedback we haven't talked a lot about

22:58 ↗ the substance besides the idea of um

23:01 ↗ making Transit cooler uh have you had

23:03 ↗ any surprises uh anything that's really

23:07 ↗ um you know you weren't expecting

23:12 ↗ yeah that's a great question and I think

23:15 ↗ the most surprising for me uh was when I

23:18 ↗ went to the senior center

23:20 ↗ um

23:21 ↗ a lot of a lot of the emphasis that I

23:25 ↗ think people get excited about is light

23:27 ↗ rail

23:28 ↗ um I think that is something that uh

23:32 ↗ you know as we're looking out 20 years

23:34 ↗ from now um light rail is like this like

23:38 ↗ you know Big Ticket item

23:40 ↗ um

23:41 ↗ My overall sense was that the senior

23:44 ↗ center uh folks folks there were not

23:46 ↗ interested uh in those discussions

23:49 ↗ uh and they were more interested in what

23:52 ↗ we can do now what we can do in the next

23:54 ↗ couple years

23:56 ↗ um it's just it was a it was a

23:58 ↗ perspective that

24:00 ↗ like on reflection makes a lot of sense

24:03 ↗ but

24:04 ↗ um I just thought it was a very it was

24:07 ↗ very like there was just more emphasis

24:09 ↗ on the here and now

24:10 ↗ um and like the short term uh that I

24:13 ↗ think was very important to capture

24:15 ↗ dude

24:18 ↗ did they happen to mention that they

24:22 ↗ were getting active

24:27 ↗ training on writing Metro buses and

24:32 ↗ going to Seattle

24:35 ↗ that that was not mentioned

24:38 ↗ um I what I did hear was that there are

24:41 ↗ services available that can help

24:43 ↗ um

24:45 ↗ connect seniors with uh like free and

24:48 ↗ reduced rides I know that there's

24:51 ↗ Support Services associated with writing

24:54 ↗ Transit Transit um I I haven't actually

24:56 ↗ heard uh anything about like

24:59 ↗ the the writer training um but yeah that

25:02 ↗ that is an interesting

25:04 ↗ uh area that I think is important

25:07 ↗ do you mind like reflect like do you

25:09 ↗ have any more information on that

25:11 ↗ yeah 11 years now there's been a program

25:14 ↗ at the senior center called Metro with

25:17 ↗ Dave

25:18 ↗ and we actually take seniors on trips

25:23 ↗ and we provide worker card seminars at

25:27 ↗ the senior center to give them the

25:30 ↗ newest information about uh worker cars

25:34 ↗ and by doing that and we do once a month

25:39 ↗ uh trips field trips to Seattle so it's

25:44 ↗ uh it's been going on now for 11 years

25:47 ↗ so I think I I would just

25:49 ↗ very curious that you talked about the

25:52 ↗ senior center so that they

25:55 ↗ are probably of all the organizations in

25:59 ↗ town they're probably more up to date

26:01 ↗ with a lot of information about how the

26:04 ↗ transit works and the opportunities to

26:09 ↗ write Transit

26:12 ↗ um

26:13 ↗ it's something that we've geared to that

26:17 ↗ for uh at least like I said 11 years now

26:21 ↗ to be able to teach them uh how to do

26:26 ↗ that we are the only

26:28 ↗ senior center in 34 King County senior

26:33 ↗ centers where this program takes place

26:35 ↗ so uh it's uh

26:40 ↗ pretty good and our seniors are really

26:44 ↗ getting out and about

26:46 ↗ the biggest cell

26:48 ↗ for the seniors and using Transit is it

26:52 ↗ only costs a buck

26:53 ↗ um

26:54 ↗ you can't even drive to Seattle for a

26:59 ↗ buck but you can definitely ride the bus

27:01 ↗ for a walk and I think the biggest thing

27:04 ↗ that I've heard from the seniors is they

27:07 ↗ want to be able to get around the

27:08 ↗ Issaquah Valley and up on the hill they

27:11 ↗ want to get the Swedish they want to be

27:13 ↗ able to get the Costco and using uh so

27:18 ↗ that's that's uh

27:21 ↗ I'm not trying to blow my horn here I'm

27:23 ↗ trying to tell you that they're getting

27:27 ↗ first-hand information on how to do this

27:31 ↗ and uh stay up to date with all the

27:35 ↗ buses that go through Issaquah

27:38 ↗ I don't think a solution for them is

27:40 ↗ going to be light rail because I

27:43 ↗ I think are we talking about the 20 40s

27:46 ↗ before Light Rail even gets out here I

27:49 ↗ expect to be up in Upper Hillside

27:52 ↗ Cemetery Pushing Daisies up by then

27:55 ↗ um

27:56 ↗ but still

27:59 ↗ what's happening today we're keeping

28:01 ↗ them abreast just to plug my own

28:04 ↗ interest

28:05 ↗ this month this month we went to the

28:10 ↗ MOHAI next month in April we are taking

28:14 ↗ them

28:16 ↗ to um

28:19 ↗ Tacoma

28:20 ↗ so we're going to go to Tacoma on the

28:23 ↗ bus

28:25 ↗ I think the seniors really uh at least

28:28 ↗ at the senior center

28:30 ↗ they know who to go talk to and how to

28:33 ↗ get there so uh I'm excited about that

28:37 ↗ and I want to pick up on one comment

28:40 ↗ prior to the pandemic

28:42 ↗ major businesses were providing worker

28:47 ↗ cards to their employer at either 50

28:51 ↗ percent of the Orca card value or some

28:56 ↗ 100 percent so that they could ride for

29:00 ↗ free but the pandemic basically had a

29:03 ↗ major impact on that we want to get back

29:06 ↗ to that

29:07 ↗ that's

29:09 ↗ Transit centered right over there used

29:12 ↗ to be full to 90

29:14 ↗ a day or more

29:17 ↗ it's not even half formal and that was

29:20 ↗ all because of the pandemic so I believe

29:23 ↗ it's out here it's just waiting to be

29:26 ↗ awakened again and that we can really do

29:30 ↗ some of our good work

29:32 ↗ for copies of this sermon we've got

29:35 ↗ right to it

29:35 ↗ [Music]

29:37 ↗ 594 bus is fun

29:41 ↗ um

29:42 ↗ kind of going in the light rails that's

29:45 ↗ actually not really

29:46 ↗ more discussion but it is like for

29:48 ↗ future Generations pretty important

29:50 ↗ obviously um

29:52 ↗ but what was I going to say about just

29:56 ↗ like the local service aspect I think we

29:58 ↗ heard a lot in the open house as well I

30:02 ↗ think there's someone who is saying like

30:03 ↗ they would appreciate or like they know

30:06 ↗ a nurse at Swedish for example who has

30:09 ↗ to walk like pretty far out of the

30:12 ↗ hospital campus to that whole bus stop

30:15 ↗ line The Highlands Drive

30:18 ↗ um to go home so

30:20 ↗ yeah I definitely heard quite a bit

30:22 ↗ about local service and its importance

30:26 ↗ a person exciting things I think I mean

30:28 ↗ on the horizon um

30:31 ↗ and I think another question I had was

30:33 ↗ kind of like

30:34 ↗ um what's the

30:36 ↗ process for incorporating the public

30:39 ↗ inputs into the transit gaps now are

30:43 ↗ they different processes or are they

30:46 ↗ at the same

30:48 ↗ that's a great question

30:50 ↗ um so with with the gaps analysis we

30:53 ↗ a lot of it is like uh

30:57 ↗ a lot of it is pretty analytical using

30:59 ↗ like

31:00 ↗ um

31:04 ↗ origin and so I'm trying to pair this

31:07 ↗ down a little bit um so a lot of it is

31:09 ↗ just like using like travel patterns

31:11 ↗ based off of like forecasted information

31:14 ↗ um so there's like a quantitative aspect

31:16 ↗ uh

31:18 ↗ in addition to that quantitative aspect

31:20 ↗ where we're seeing like bottlenecks in

31:22 ↗ the network or like deficiencies at

31:24 ↗ intersections

31:26 ↗ um we are also supplementing that with

31:29 ↗ the lived experiences and the the

31:32 ↗ qualitative uh information that we've

31:34 ↗ received so it'll be a very 360

31:37 ↗ degree view of um the future network a

31:42 ↗ lot of it will be based on like hard

31:44 ↗ data that we have

31:45 ↗ and there's also a lot of anecdotal

31:48 ↗ information that is uh

31:51 ↗ just further pointing towards like the

31:53 ↗ things that we know but there's also a

31:56 ↗ lot of information that can't be

31:57 ↗ captured by data we don't have data on

31:59 ↗ everything so a lot of the feedback that

32:01 ↗ we're getting

32:02 ↗ um by the time that that document is

32:04 ↗ prepared should be encapsulating

32:07 ↗ um

32:08 ↗ above all that information and uh you

32:11 ↗ know conversations uh interviews and um

32:15 ↗ all the the information that we've

32:17 ↗ received to date

32:21 ↗ I hope that answers your question

32:23 ↗ yeah that's great what Thomas was it

32:26 ↗ negative a lot of feedback you got was

32:30 ↗ it negative

32:34 ↗ I I think that you know there's some

32:36 ↗ folks that were uh fairly negative

32:38 ↗ um but we also had some folks that were

32:41 ↗ pretty positive about how things are

32:43 ↗ going

32:44 ↗ um

32:47 ↗ I think that you know the types of

32:49 ↗ people that would come to events uh are

32:52 ↗ probably pretty polarized one way or the

32:54 ↗ other um so that was certainly felt

32:56 ↗ um I've also had many phone calls where

32:59 ↗ you know

33:01 ↗ people are just at their house and

33:02 ↗ having a chat with me and um pretty

33:06 ↗ positive about the future so it it

33:08 ↗ really depends on the person I would say

33:11 ↗ um

33:12 ↗ I think there's an acknowledgment that

33:14 ↗ uh Transit service that's provided by

33:17 ↗ King County Metro and Sound Transit

33:19 ↗ there could be some improvements

33:21 ↗ um that's certainly something that I

33:23 ↗ think most people have felt

33:25 ↗ uh but

33:28 ↗ a lot of the

33:29 ↗ a lot of the folks that attended the

33:31 ↗ open house are pretty excited about

33:35 ↗ um how Transit is currently being

33:37 ↗ provided there's excitement for like the

33:39 ↗ changes that are coming

33:41 ↗ um there's going to be consolidation of

33:43 ↗ routes that uh you know will in the

33:46 ↗ short term improve uh you know Spanish

33:49 ↗ service so like how

33:52 ↗ uh how far during the day that Transit

33:55 ↗ is being provided

33:56 ↗ um you know

33:57 ↗ the headways so like the the time

34:00 ↗ between buses that should be reduced for

34:03 ↗ many routes so there's some like minor

34:05 ↗ uh you know changes that are happening

34:07 ↗ in the short term that I think people

34:09 ↗ are excited about but there's also

34:12 ↗ acknowledgment that

34:14 ↗ as Light Rail comes East uh there will

34:18 ↗ be some Growing Pains uh some routes

34:21 ↗ will have minor changes that will be

34:24 ↗ sort of just new things that we need to

34:27 ↗ Grapple with but as we as we consider

34:30 ↗ the you know the bigger picture

34:32 ↗ um

34:33 ↗ there's going to be improved Regional

34:35 ↗ connectivity

34:37 ↗ um

34:37 ↗ I think there's a lot to be said about

34:39 ↗ like the exciting things but also

34:41 ↗ acknowledging that there will be some

34:43 ↗ Growing Pains that we need to address as

34:45 ↗ we

34:46 ↗ are sort of on the up and up

34:50 ↗ yeah I mean I think one of the things I

34:51 ↗ was being heard that the open house was

34:54 ↗ the consternation about the

34:57 ↗ were no longer going to have a one-seat

35:00 ↗ ride to

35:02 ↗ downtown yeah yeah

35:05 ↗ it's going to go to South Bellevue uh to

35:09 ↗ the link from there but initially I was

35:12 ↗ also back complaining about it but

35:15 ↗ now it's like being if you ride the 554

35:18 ↗ a lot into town it's like

35:21 ↗ you're pretty stuck on Jackson and all

35:25 ↗ those downtown streets and so having

35:27 ↗ that light rail that just takes you

35:29 ↗ underground and Skip all that traffic

35:31 ↗ and the Sphinx

35:33 ↗ screen

35:34 ↗ the red lights and stuff it's gonna be

35:36 ↗ pretty convenient I think even with that

35:38 ↗ transfer it might be faster

35:42 ↗ so it's going to go then under I know

35:45 ↗ that we talked about this a couple times

35:47 ↗ six seven months ago just but I didn't

35:50 ↗ realize that when it gets to Seattle

35:52 ↗ then it goes

35:54 ↗ like

35:56 ↗ from downtown Bellevue yeah fine okay

36:00 ↗ not immediately not eventually but at

36:03 ↗ the Terminus yeah as opposed to not when

36:05 ↗ we have it here but when they open them

36:08 ↗ again

36:11 ↗ that's good that's a good point let's

36:12 ↗ bring it up okay I'm just since we do

36:14 ↗ have luxury retirement I'm just going to

36:15 ↗ ask one other question and that is um

36:18 ↗ can you just zoom out a step I know you

36:20 ↗ said the next steps was the Gap analysis

36:22 ↗ but can you remind all of us

36:25 ↗ um

36:26 ↗ the larger context about where this is

36:29 ↗ going and the um the scope to the

36:32 ↗ temporal the scope of the project and um

36:36 ↗ and what it then uh where it will lead

36:40 ↗ us what will be done with this can you

36:42 ↗ just remind us of that I feel like we've

36:44 ↗ talked a lot about the transit study and

36:46 ↗ we haven't spent that much time talking

36:47 ↗ you know substance about this so can you

36:51 ↗ just back up and remind us about

36:53 ↗ what is it we're doing where it's going

36:55 ↗ to end up what's going to happen and

36:56 ↗ Beyond just next steps yeah sure thing

36:59 ↗ um so the scope of this project is

37:02 ↗ really it's like a two-year project a

37:05 ↗ lot of it is coinciding with the update

37:07 ↗ of the mobility master plan

37:09 ↗ um and I think the goal for this is to

37:12 ↗ sort of finish that up in Spring of 24.

37:16 ↗ okay so that's just like the transit uh

37:19 ↗ piece of the mobility master plan

37:22 ↗ um along the way

37:24 ↗ uh

37:26 ↗ this study will also

37:28 ↗ um as we as we uh

37:31 ↗ study the deficiencies as we know sort

37:33 ↗ of what the future network will look

37:35 ↗ like that will inform

37:38 ↗ that will inform some of the projects

37:40 ↗ that are

37:42 ↗ recommended for the capital Improvement

37:44 ↗ program or the transportation

37:46 ↗ Improvement program

37:47 ↗ so there will be some uh you know

37:50 ↗ Transit speed and reliability projects

37:52 ↗ there's also going to potentially be

37:55 ↗ some programmatic type things that the

37:58 ↗ city can do to improve Transit so those

38:01 ↗ are sort of like the

38:03 ↗ some of the more tangible things we're

38:05 ↗ also going to be creating a strategy for

38:07 ↗ light rail as it comes so you can look

38:10 ↗ forward to that

38:11 ↗ further down the road this is really

38:14 ↗ just to get in front of uh you know

38:16 ↗ future discussions for light rail

38:19 ↗ just making sure that the Issaquah you

38:22 ↗ know

38:23 ↗ I feel uh our values are reflected in

38:28 ↗ those future discussions when Sound

38:30 ↗ Transit is ready to have them but just

38:33 ↗ really getting getting prepared for for

38:36 ↗ those

38:37 ↗ um

38:39 ↗ we're also going to be looking at some

38:41 ↗ metrics that we can

38:44 ↗ that we can have impact on so these

38:47 ↗ would be Transit related uh like I guess

38:50 ↗ level level Service uh Transit sort of

38:53 ↗ um you know metrics that the city can

38:55 ↗ say okay we've we've we have these

38:58 ↗ projects and

39:01 ↗ they have improved transit in these ways

39:04 ↗ um and these are things that we we can

39:06 ↗ do specifically

39:07 ↗ um

39:08 ↗ and we'll be doing some Equity analysis

39:11 ↗ and you know Equity is a major push for

39:13 ↗ the city we're we're very very serious

39:16 ↗ about it so Equity will be

39:19 ↗ at the center of of everything that we

39:21 ↗ do and there will be analysis that is

39:24 ↗ included in that and all this will be

39:26 ↗ rolled into the

39:28 ↗ um the transit section of the mobility

39:30 ↗ master plan

39:31 ↗ okay

39:33 ↗ thank you that's really helpful and also

39:36 ↗ I just want to double check that we're

39:38 ↗ all making sure the way I understand is

39:40 ↗ the mobility master plan is a fancy way

39:43 ↗ of describing the transportation element

39:45 ↗ of the comprehensive plan is that a

39:47 ↗ correct statement it sure is yep I think

39:51 ↗ that lots of us are familiar with

39:53 ↗ Comprehensive plans and Transit and the

39:54 ↗ elements of comprehensive plans it took

39:57 ↗ me a couple years of working on the MP

39:59 ↗ and realizing it was it is the

40:01 ↗ transformation element so we have this

40:03 ↗ fancy name for it but I think it'd be

40:06 ↗ helpful to keep reminding us that that

40:09 ↗ is the transformation element and then

40:11 ↗ it sounds like it's going to be

40:13 ↗ I imagine each element is going to be on

40:15 ↗ its own specific schedule but there's an

40:17 ↗ overall schedule for the comprehensive

40:19 ↗ plan I presume so helping remind us of

40:22 ↗ what that is generally will be helpful

40:25 ↗ sure let me just give a little bit more

40:28 ↗ information on that if if you're

40:29 ↗ interested

40:30 ↗ um and so

40:32 ↗ every eight to ten years we we do an

40:36 ↗ update on the uh on the comprehensive

40:38 ↗ plans and so that that is upon us you

40:41 ↗ know we just finished Title 18 and uh so

40:44 ↗ now we're moving to the next big thing

40:46 ↗ which is that that comp plan uh periodic

40:49 ↗ update so we're doing that

40:51 ↗ um

40:52 ↗ you know we're looking at everything

40:54 ↗ from like land use Transportation

40:56 ↗ uh utilities housing all that

41:00 ↗ um and so transportation is one of those

41:02 ↗ uh Transit will be like the major focus

41:05 ↗ of the update

41:07 ↗ um so this is

41:09 ↗ just like you said uh this is the uh the

41:13 ↗ implementing the um you know strategic

41:15 ↗ sort of portion the the the steps that

41:18 ↗ we can take to implement uh that

41:22 ↗ comprehensive plan element uh for the

41:24 ↗ transportation element

41:28 ↗ um what is that schedule that the over

41:32 ↗ to the whole comprehensive plan is there

41:34 ↗ some like Target date that that gets

41:35 ↗ adopted

41:37 ↗ the specific date I I'm not aware that

41:39 ↗ there's a specific date but my

41:40 ↗ understanding is it's going to be like

41:43 ↗ Q3 or Q4

41:45 ↗ um of 2024. I want to say it's Q3

41:55 ↗ sizes

41:56 ↗ um and they are monstrous and um I just

41:59 ↗ wanted to kind of have a sense of where

42:01 ↗ that what was on the horizon there um

42:04 ↗ great thank you sorry just one last

42:06 ↗ thing our deadline for the comp plan is

42:09 ↗ the end of 24

42:10 ↗ um so we we do have a lot of time uh to

42:14 ↗ to make sure that we're doing it right

42:15 ↗ but yeah so I guess our I would uh

42:19 ↗ change my answer and I'd say Q4 of 24

42:23 ↗ um is sort of our our end goal yep

42:28 ↗ that's really helpful thank you um does

42:29 ↗ anyone else have any questions or

42:31 ↗ comments about this topic

42:34 ↗ how you doing go ahead

42:38 ↗ without getting into trouble

42:40 ↗ you know the other night I said

42:44 ↗ it's gonna be soon that we're gonna have

42:47 ↗ brand new players in here and I really

42:50 ↗ think that what's going to really need

42:53 ↗ to have

42:54 ↗ to happen for those brand new players is

42:57 ↗ they're going to have to be able to walk

42:59 ↗ in and totally understand Contra

43:02 ↗ comprehensive master plan

43:04 ↗ Central Issaquah plan

43:07 ↗ Mobility master plan it's going to be a

43:11 ↗ little overwhelming for them so

43:14 ↗ whatever we can do whatever homework we

43:19 ↗ can do on Saturday or Sunday that we sit

43:23 ↗ in here and we talk what are your

43:26 ↗ questions about this can because they're

43:30 ↗ going it just about will be out of the

43:33 ↗ water and I've been going to these a lot

43:36 ↗ so I think

43:38 ↗ somehow we got to figure out how we do

43:42 ↗ that and get them up to speed we'll

43:46 ↗ like that or just down my fingers

43:48 ↗ because otherwise there's going to be

43:50 ↗ delay and they're going to feel

43:52 ↗ overwhelmed and we don't want them to

43:54 ↗ feel overwhelmed we want to feel a feel

43:57 ↗ that they're right up to speed so when

44:00 ↗ he mentions Central Issaquah plan or the

44:03 ↗ mobility master plan or the tip they go

44:06 ↗ yep I know what that is because

44:08 ↗ otherwise

44:10 ↗ we'll do ourselves a disservice so

44:14 ↗ I appreciate that and you're not in

44:15 ↗ trouble and I will say that I've been on

44:17 ↗ the sport since it started and I still

44:19 ↗ get overwhelmed and I can't remember

44:21 ↗ everything and so I like to ask them

44:23 ↗ questions and um and I I think going

44:25 ↗ through this with the new members will

44:27 ↗ help all the members I don't think

44:29 ↗ there's anybody here that maybe a

44:30 ↗ Saturday with coffee and donuts and we

44:32 ↗ just uh sit here and we talk about those

44:35 ↗ basic things so that they go oh yeah I

44:39 ↗ get it now and because that

44:42 ↗ first meeting that they attend

44:44 ↗ they're going to feel like they don't

44:47 ↗ want to contribute or they they just

44:49 ↗ don't know enough about contributing I'm

44:51 ↗ saying let's get beyond that right away

44:53 ↗ let's have a Saturday morning

44:57 ↗ uh meeting where you lay those plans out

45:00 ↗ and we

45:02 ↗ they're just the plan seeing the plans

45:05 ↗ but anyway yeah thank you for hearing me

45:08 ↗ out and I honestly believe that we'll do

45:11 ↗ this board I think all of us can have a

45:15 ↗ refresher and then I'm this is a very

45:17 ↗ much in the weeds comment but while

45:18 ↗ we're on the subject I did want to

45:20 ↗ mention that um I know John's heard me

45:22 ↗ say this before but whenever your staff

45:24 ↗ memos can reference those documents uh

45:27 ↗ providing page numbers links or whatever

45:29 ↗ I think it keeps all of us accountable

45:31 ↗ to those adopted plans

45:33 ↗ um if we're constantly referencing them

45:36 ↗ not just in theory but actually you know

45:38 ↗ if you talk about the um

45:40 ↗ the principles for example or the trying

45:43 ↗ to remember what we call those

45:44 ↗ statements but um you know bouncing to

45:47 ↗ those pages is super helpful when you're

45:48 ↗ drafting your memos

45:50 ↗ um John's sort of a textualist and so

45:52 ↗ much principles of the mobility guiding

45:55 ↗ principles thank you yes

45:57 ↗ um yeah so that's always helpful again I

46:00 ↗ know that's it very specific tactical

46:02 ↗ thing but just while we're on that topic

46:04 ↗ great well thank you um all right well

46:06 ↗ with that it sounds like we're going to

46:07 ↗ move along we're going to talk about the

46:08 ↗ CIP uh criteria and I just wanted to say

46:13 ↗ um

46:14 ↗ before reading the memo when we talked

46:17 ↗ in our prep meeting we just talked about

46:19 ↗ making sure that the tab is reminded

46:22 ↗ that we're not here to revisit the

46:24 ↗ criteria

46:25 ↗ um and I think the memo made that all

46:27 ↗ that pretty clear

46:29 ↗ um but I just wanted to say that

46:31 ↗ um first of all I think that that

46:33 ↗ meeting was we were awesome there were

46:35 ↗ we really we had more depth than any

46:39 ↗ other board there I was very proud of

46:41 ↗ that that was really cool

46:43 ↗ um and then I also we I think it was a

46:46 ↗ really really effective meeting and I

46:48 ↗ hope everyone felt like it was worth

46:49 ↗ their time but uh because there's

46:52 ↗ several boards we can't go back and

46:54 ↗ revisit it you'd have to start that

46:56 ↗ whole cycle over again and I think the

46:58 ↗ memo made was pretty clear about kind of

47:00 ↗ what could and could it be addressed but

47:01 ↗ just wanted to kind of I'm going to turn

47:03 ↗ this over to Emily but I just wanted to

47:05 ↗ remind us

47:07 ↗ um that we don't this is not enough we

47:09 ↗ don't have the opportunity to revisit

47:12 ↗ um covered old ground that we've already

47:14 ↗ recovered before

47:16 ↗ um but we do have an opportunity to make

47:18 ↗ sure that they captured what it was that

47:20 ↗ we agreed to in those meetings and I

47:22 ↗ think that's what was promised and I

47:23 ↗ think that's what we're about to talk

47:25 ↗ about if I understand correctly yes um

47:27 ↗ so with that I just wanted to make sure

47:29 ↗ that keep us honest and not going back

47:31 ↗ and um covering old ground that is not

47:33 ↗ appropriate we just can't do that

47:36 ↗ and get all we'd have to get all those

47:38 ↗ birds back together again to agree that

47:40 ↗ some new criteria uh so I just wanted to

47:42 ↗ remind everybody of that and then go

47:44 ↗ ahead and turn over to Emily great thank

47:46 ↗ you very much that was uh the perfect

47:47 ↗ introduction

47:49 ↗ uh this is just an opportunity for us to

47:52 ↗ do a few things first to say thank you

47:55 ↗ um tab representation about the summit

47:58 ↗ for us indeed fantastic and uh I

48:02 ↗ certainly know from having spoken the

48:04 ↗ staff that was there between minutes

48:07 ↗ from the meeting uh your your voices

48:10 ↗ were upfront they were captured

48:13 ↗ um so thank you all for participating

48:16 ↗ and contributing to that and it

48:18 ↗ certainly helped us as we needed a

48:22 ↗ fine-tune that criteria and try to get

48:24 ↗ it to a place where we could start to

48:25 ↗ implement it and I think that's one of

48:27 ↗ the other reasons why

48:29 ↗ um we're not asking at this moment from

48:31 ↗ every board that we're going back to

48:34 ↗ um for substantive kinds of changes we

48:37 ↗ want to do a check and ask you know does

48:41 ↗ it look like we are in better alignment

48:44 ↗ with your desires with your feedback

48:47 ↗ that you provided at the summit will

48:50 ↗ capture that information

48:53 ↗ um I believe that the is attempt to

48:58 ↗ create criteria by which we will Rank

49:01 ↗ and rate

49:03 ↗ capital projects is something that we

49:05 ↗ that will be iterative and we will come

49:08 ↗ back to this we will learn as we go we

49:11 ↗ will fine-tune again and so your

49:13 ↗ comments today are still just as

49:16 ↗ important

49:18 ↗ having said that we are in the moment

49:20 ↗ where we are creating capital projects

49:22 ↗ we're getting a draft ready for

49:24 ↗ the city council for administration

49:27 ↗ first to review and then for city

49:29 ↗ council and so we're asking our staff to

49:33 ↗ start applying that criteria right now

49:37 ↗ so

49:38 ↗ um I wanted to if you all have a copy of

49:42 ↗ the memo I'm going to put it on slides

49:45 ↗ for you

49:47 ↗ um I think a few of the points that I

49:49 ↗ wanted to um

49:51 ↗ verbalize from the memo that the deputy

49:55 ↗ City administrator wrote

49:57 ↗ is we spent quite a bit of time thinking

49:59 ↗ about the all of the diplomas there were

50:02 ↗ quite a few comments around equity in

50:05 ↗ particular

50:06 ↗ um and that has been an area that uh has

50:09 ↗ been challenging I'll say for us to come

50:11 ↗ up with

50:13 ↗ um criteria that will work criteria that

50:15 ↗ will work for every project every

50:17 ↗ circumstance and I I know that is a

50:20 ↗ primary place where we will learn as we

50:23 ↗ go and find tune this is the first time

50:26 ↗ we have had such an element in our

50:30 ↗ significant criteria

50:32 ↗ and so we're grateful for the input on

50:36 ↗ the grateful for the patients as we

50:38 ↗ learn as we go

50:42 ↗ um

50:43 ↗ we also had robust discussion about the

50:48 ↗ criteria that would help us assess if

50:52 ↗ Capital Improvement projects have

50:55 ↗ positive negative impact on overall

50:57 ↗ quality of life in Issaquah it's always

51:00 ↗ another one that's difficult to Define

51:02 ↗ each come with our own expectations and

51:06 ↗ definitions around that

51:08 ↗ and on that particular criteria

51:12 ↗ we attempted to capture that by giving a

51:17 ↗ little bit better definition of

51:18 ↗ livability and quality of life and we

51:22 ↗ used proxies I will say and then

51:27 ↗ criteria that we are implementing today

51:29 ↗ and those proxies are um

51:32 ↗ the input that we have received from the

51:35 ↗ community about what is important what

51:37 ↗ what creates quality of life and how

51:39 ↗ that then got manifested into say our

51:42 ↗ strategic plan so we're using the

51:45 ↗ Strategic plan alignment a bit as a

51:47 ↗ proxy for testing

51:49 ↗ um is this project one that helps us

51:53 ↗ improve quality of life in the community

51:55 ↗ because it is in in tune in sync with

51:58 ↗ the Strategic plan or not

52:03 ↗ um let's see

52:08 ↗ all right

52:09 ↗ there's been some desire from board

52:12 ↗ members community members council

52:13 ↗ members to have some

52:17 ↗ criteria that recognize that some

52:21 ↗ projects have been in the queue for some

52:23 ↗ time some projects have been

52:26 ↗ promised plan for the community for some

52:29 ↗ time than others have shorter tenure or

52:32 ↗ maybe just be brand new to the CIP so a

52:35 ↗ lot of discussion about

52:37 ↗ whether that's an important factor

52:40 ↗ whether it should be waited in Town

52:43 ↗ Council continues to discuss that and

52:46 ↗ how they how they want to treat that

52:48 ↗ particular variable we expect that they

52:52 ↗ will continue to help us

52:54 ↗ identify what they want to see on that

52:57 ↗ front it didn't result

52:59 ↗ in a criteria that we are applying as we

53:03 ↗ make projects however we are intending

53:06 ↗ to try to provide them with some of the

53:08 ↗ background that they may need in order

53:10 ↗ to um

53:12 ↗ readily understand is this is this a

53:15 ↗ brand new project is this a project that

53:16 ↗ wasn't a previous CIP

53:19 ↗ that that sort of filter I guess to be

53:23 ↗ able to

53:24 ↗ um

53:25 ↗ analyze any of the proposed projects

53:30 ↗ and then there was a lot of discussion

53:33 ↗ about the the rating instrument you know

53:37 ↗ the uh scale right and so um uh just

53:43 ↗ because we love our traffic and

53:45 ↗ transportation friends we've we've

53:47 ↗ proposed a red yellow green uh kind of

53:50 ↗ system

53:51 ↗ um this is an improvement in my mind

53:53 ↗ from sort of the binary yes no uh kind

53:57 ↗ of criteria

53:59 ↗ um but

54:00 ↗ it certainly doesn't go so far as to

54:02 ↗ make it look deeply scientific right

54:06 ↗ um I know from experience it it becomes

54:09 ↗ very difficult to talk about projects on

54:12 ↗ say a 10-point scale where you have a

54:15 ↗ 8.7 and uh you know 7.9 and then

54:19 ↗ really try to articulate what is the

54:22 ↗ difference between those projects and

54:23 ↗ still in the end the 7.9 might be the

54:26 ↗ one that needs to be done sooner rather

54:30 ↗ than later in the capital Improvement

54:32 ↗ project so it's just it's very difficult

54:34 ↗ I think to come up with a raining

54:37 ↗ instrument that works really well

54:40 ↗ um and it and so

54:42 ↗ we are hopeful that at least

54:46 ↗ um we can apply each of the Criterion to

54:48 ↗ every project and give an added glance

54:51 ↗ kind of assessment of this project

54:55 ↗ doing well on that particular Criterion

54:59 ↗ or is this one that that isn't really a

55:02 ↗ factor with this project because there

55:05 ↗ are projects like that where the project

55:08 ↗ may be uh

55:10 ↗ maintenance in nature and and uh maybe

55:14 ↗ legally required a couple of our

55:17 ↗ criterions but

55:19 ↗ um maybe maybe it wasn't addressed in

55:24 ↗ the Strategic plan or a prior plan of

55:27 ↗ the city and so it's going to get maybe

55:29 ↗ a yellow or even a red or not

55:31 ↗ participating item

55:34 ↗ so that is the scale that we're going to

55:38 ↗ try to apply

55:39 ↗ um

55:40 ↗ that one in particular wanted to mention

55:43 ↗ to all of you because we will be

55:45 ↗ bringing back the proposed

55:48 ↗ Transportation projects to this board

55:51 ↗ and showing you

55:54 ↗ um our initial rating of those projects

55:57 ↗ on each of these Criterion and asking

56:01 ↗ for feedback from that but where do you

56:04 ↗ see it differently

56:06 ↗ um we'll be able to share our thought

56:09 ↗ process as we select a bright yellow or

56:12 ↗ green on each of those variables for

56:15 ↗ each of the projects and so that's the

56:17 ↗ next place a feedback both on the

56:19 ↗ instrument itself the the rating

56:22 ↗ um

56:23 ↗ A system that we're establishing but um

56:26 ↗ also a little bit of feedback I'll say

56:28 ↗ on on the projects themselves and how

56:30 ↗ you view them

56:32 ↗ um and their importance on each of those

56:34 ↗ factors

56:36 ↗ uh in the end the number of criteria

56:39 ↗ remained the same

56:42 ↗ um so we did not add or subtract to it

56:45 ↗ but hopefully have clarified uh overall

56:48 ↗ definitions and

56:50 ↗ the definitions of what a red means and

56:53 ↗ so on

56:55 ↗ um so next steps for us uh staff has

56:59 ↗ been really busy over the last few weeks

57:01 ↗ pulling together projects

57:04 ↗ understatement

57:06 ↗ and trying to do what we do on our side

57:11 ↗ um uh Shape Up scope processments all of

57:15 ↗ that and it also apply this rating

57:19 ↗ criteria system that information is now

57:23 ↗ moving over into City Administration in

57:27 ↗ finance and they will look at our work

57:29 ↗ they will also apply some additional

57:31 ↗ filters like like what's affordable

57:35 ↗ given each funds

57:38 ↗ sources Revenue sources Etc and the

57:43 ↗ proposed CIP will then begin to take its

57:47 ↗ final shape as a proposed CIP and then

57:50 ↗ we'll be transmitted over to the city

57:54 ↗ council in May we'll get their feedback

57:59 ↗ at that point in time and then hope

58:01 ↗ ultimately to have adoption of the CIT

58:04 ↗ by July 1st

58:06 ↗ so the month of April will be back to

58:09 ↗ share the proposed

58:12 ↗ initially proposed Transportation

58:15 ↗ projects and our rating on those and get

58:19 ↗ your feedback but tonight

58:21 ↗ I um this is very open uh conversation

58:26 ↗ we just love to hear your feedback

58:28 ↗ having read the memo

58:31 ↗ and the new rating system

58:35 ↗ hearing from you

58:37 ↗ where did we get it right

58:39 ↗ where do you think it's still not quite

58:42 ↗ right

58:43 ↗ any suggestions that you might have and

58:47 ↗ I certainly will keep track of those and

58:50 ↗ hear this word

58:53 ↗ thank you

58:56 ↗ do you have any questions any comments

58:58 ↗ Jerry how about you

59:00 ↗ [Music]

59:06 ↗ um oh

59:09 ↗ okay so Jerry is

59:12 ↗ Jerry I can see you on my computer but

59:14 ↗ we're not seeing it on the TV

59:17 ↗ Oh weird okay uh she's a little triangle

59:22 ↗ up at the left top Corner that's usually

59:25 ↗ yeah I'm gonna have the room leave the

59:28 ↗ meeting and come back

59:31 ↗ Orange

1:00:01 ↗ I'm trying to get in the habit of

1:00:04 ↗ remembering uh Jared did you have any

1:00:06 ↗ questions or comments

1:00:08 ↗ um about what Emily had to share

1:00:11 ↗ yes but I can't hear you

1:00:15 ↗ now I can't

1:00:17 ↗ yeah just turn up your volume

1:00:21 ↗ okay

1:00:22 ↗ um

1:00:23 ↗ I did not read the memo

1:00:27 ↗ but okay I'm gonna be honest I did not

1:00:31 ↗ but I was wondering about where

1:00:35 ↗ you know I would consider safety a

1:00:37 ↗ number one priority and I just wanted to

1:00:40 ↗ be sure that safety is one of the big

1:00:46 ↗ Criterion points

1:00:49 ↗ it is it is the the first Criterion uh

1:00:54 ↗ the header is legal mandate or

1:00:57 ↗ addressing life and safety concerns

1:01:01 ↗ okay because you did mention legal

1:01:03 ↗ mandate so I'm glad they're both up

1:01:06 ↗ there and so

1:01:08 ↗ that that was my major comment

1:01:12 ↗ okay

1:01:15 ↗ thank you

1:01:17 ↗ anybody else

1:01:20 ↗ I think I would just agree that the

1:01:22 ↗ livability is a really hard one to

1:01:24 ↗ incorporate because it mean something

1:01:26 ↗ different for everyone

1:01:27 ↗ [Music]

1:01:30 ↗ so that and then under the environmental

1:01:33 ↗ section I thought those were good

1:01:35 ↗ ratings but one of the questions I had

1:01:37 ↗ was because by Nature how our community

1:01:41 ↗ is formed we've got a lot of rivers and

1:01:44 ↗ streams ditches

1:01:46 ↗ is there a consideration for mitigation

1:01:49 ↗ because there may be at some point in

1:01:51 ↗ time where there is a critical project

1:01:53 ↗ made in the CIP but you don't have a lot

1:01:56 ↗ of options other than to mitigate

1:02:01 ↗ thank you

1:02:05 ↗ those are the only things that stood out

1:02:07 ↗ to me but it was I thought it was

1:02:09 ↗ definitely improvement from the

1:02:11 ↗ community group input

1:02:13 ↗ I can't I can't wait to see what the

1:02:15 ↗ outcome is

1:02:17 ↗ because I'm most interested in that

1:02:23 ↗ um I just wanted to say that I did

1:02:25 ↗ appreciate this gun memo it's pretty

1:02:28 ↗ much a dressed

1:02:31 ↗ there was a lot of people in a lot of

1:02:33 ↗ constituents and a lot and I thought you

1:02:35 ↗ did a good job sort of navigating all

1:02:36 ↗ that and then that everything even

1:02:38 ↗ things that weren't really able to be

1:02:40 ↗ uh Incorporated were addressed as

1:02:43 ↗ opposed to just you know sometimes that

1:02:45 ↗ stuff

1:02:46 ↗ doesn't it doesn't happen and then you

1:02:49 ↗ don't know why and I felt like that was

1:02:50 ↗ really helpful and I just also wanted to

1:02:53 ↗ comment uh and you mentioned this in the

1:02:55 ↗ memo that you would

1:02:57 ↗ um

1:02:58 ↗ in front of me because then I could use

1:03:00 ↗ the right language but the idea that uh

1:03:02 ↗ the history of certain projects and the

1:03:05 ↗ concern about the idea that a project

1:03:08 ↗ might fear you know a project that

1:03:11 ↗ somebody wants Council wants and like

1:03:14 ↗ what's how did that get on here and does

1:03:16 ↗ it really meet all the criteria and the

1:03:18 ↗ comment leaving it there but bringing

1:03:21 ↗ that back to council about the concerns

1:03:22 ↗ about lack of transparency and so forth

1:03:24 ↗ I would just reiterate that and hope to

1:03:26 ↗ make sure that that gets um

1:03:28 ↗ I thought about this a lot just the

1:03:31 ↗ conceptually if um I mean at the end of

1:03:33 ↗ the day Council they are elected by the

1:03:36 ↗ people and they do get you know that is

1:03:38 ↗ their right to make decisions in the way

1:03:41 ↗ that they see fit and then if we don't

1:03:43 ↗ like it we don't have to realize them

1:03:45 ↗ the next time so there is a sorry I can

1:03:47 ↗ respect a certain amount of um

1:03:50 ↗ that um

1:03:52 ↗ just want to make sure that doesn't get

1:03:54 ↗ kind of brushed and nervous that that

1:03:56 ↗ I hope that you use those

1:03:58 ↗ rarely and wisely but I can understand

1:04:01 ↗ why an elected official might just say

1:04:03 ↗ well I don't care about all these

1:04:05 ↗ scripture I want you know I'm going to

1:04:07 ↗ vote for this project or whatever that

1:04:08 ↗ that's the end of the day they just have

1:04:10 ↗ to they're decision makers and more

1:04:12 ↗ advisors and so I just wanted to

1:04:14 ↗ reiterate that we

1:04:17 ↗ make sure that that doesn't get

1:04:19 ↗ lost

1:04:23 ↗ um

1:04:24 ↗ and then also you answered my question

1:04:27 ↗ but I just want to confirm so when we

1:04:29 ↗ see the

1:04:30 ↗ sorry the tip gets adopted every year

1:04:33 ↗ but the tip that gets adopted in the CIP

1:04:36 ↗ year is one and the same

1:04:39 ↗ yes okay and so we will see that in

1:04:43 ↗ April

1:04:44 ↗ and then looking split it's going to go

1:04:46 ↗ to Council in May so we'll be seeing it

1:04:49 ↗ pretty late stage and of course we meet

1:04:51 ↗ late in April so

1:04:54 ↗ um I mean realistically by the time it

1:04:56 ↗ comes to us well we have much

1:04:58 ↗ opportunity to influence that

1:05:03 ↗ yes okay that is my answer uh

1:05:08 ↗ opportunity for sure

1:05:11 ↗ tabs input is important

1:05:14 ↗ there are always a lot of factors that

1:05:17 ↗ go into

1:05:19 ↗ how we recommend the proposed and then

1:05:23 ↗ of course the way in which

1:05:24 ↗ Administration will will look at that

1:05:26 ↗ final package but uh yes all of the so

1:05:32 ↗ whether or not it changes

1:05:34 ↗ the proposed document that's going over

1:05:36 ↗ to council maybe within you know a week

1:05:39 ↗ right right

1:05:41 ↗ um nevertheless the feedback or a tab

1:05:44 ↗ that's a forward and there's still

1:05:46 ↗ opportunities thereafter that's a great

1:05:48 ↗ thing to keep in mind yeah the

1:05:49 ↗ university Council has a little bit of

1:05:51 ↗ time to work with in terms of like what

1:05:54 ↗ if they hear or something

1:05:57 ↗ yes

1:06:04 ↗ it's already built in at the time

1:06:07 ↗ yeah and others provide an example last

1:06:09 ↗ year when we updated the tip we had

1:06:12 ↗ doing this planning study for the squawk

1:06:15 ↗ Mountain motorized project is the future

1:06:17 ↗ year project and the feedback that the

1:06:20 ↗ community and the council gave are hey

1:06:22 ↗ let's do that now so now we're

1:06:25 ↗ negotiating with the consultant to get

1:06:28 ↗ that work done and that's exactly what

1:06:30 ↗ happened is we presented it to the

1:06:34 ↗ council and they wanted to change but

1:06:36 ↗ made it

1:06:46 ↗ yes okay great thank you hi this is

1:06:49 ↗ Andrea Snyder Deputy City administrator

1:06:52 ↗ and I just wanted to add that when we

1:06:54 ↗ come back to you next month we're going

1:06:55 ↗ to have a draft of that tip and our main

1:06:58 ↗ questions for you are going to revolve

1:07:00 ↗ around the criteria and how we have

1:07:03 ↗ applied those criteria right and so that

1:07:06 ↗ the the feedback that we're looking for

1:07:08 ↗ you to receive from you is boy you

1:07:11 ↗ didn't really apply this right would

1:07:13 ↗ have applied it differently

1:07:15 ↗ um it looks like maybe we don't have the

1:07:18 ↗ right type of criteria because we really

1:07:19 ↗ really had expected to see this type of

1:07:22 ↗ project and we didn't right or for this

1:07:25 ↗ group especially being the the the

1:07:29 ↗ Shepherds of the master Mobility plan to

1:07:32 ↗ say well wait a second

1:07:34 ↗ um you know we had this suggested tib

1:07:36 ↗ doesn't seem to fit

1:07:39 ↗ um what the MMP would imply or what we

1:07:41 ↗ would have think the MMP would

1:07:43 ↗ um

1:07:44 ↗ would provide for in a tip and so I

1:07:48 ↗ think that's the type of information

1:07:49 ↗ that we're looking at feedback from you

1:07:51 ↗ we're not going to have an opportunity

1:07:53 ↗ for you to propose all new projects the

1:07:56 ↗ city hasn't considered right so

1:07:58 ↗ um you've heard that from me if if you

1:08:01 ↗ were able to attend the summit uh I'm

1:08:03 ↗ going to say it again because I know

1:08:04 ↗ that that can be really hard we all have

1:08:06 ↗ these projects we see around town boy

1:08:08 ↗ wouldn't it be great if we can do X Y or

1:08:10 ↗ C and that's not really the time to

1:08:12 ↗ introduce those projects the projects

1:08:14 ↗ that we're bringing to you have been

1:08:15 ↗ vetted they've been carefully considered

1:08:17 ↗ we have cost estimates it takes a lot as

1:08:20 ↗ Emily and John know more than anybody

1:08:22 ↗ else in this room it takes a lot to pull

1:08:24 ↗ all those project ideas together and all

1:08:26 ↗ that information together for you so

1:08:28 ↗ that next meeting for this group next

1:08:31 ↗ month is really going to be focusing on

1:08:33 ↗ here's the suite of projects we have in

1:08:35 ↗ the draft tip how well did we apply

1:08:38 ↗ those criteria uh if they're not the

1:08:41 ↗ right projects if it doesn't seem to

1:08:42 ↗ meet expectations if it doesn't seem to

1:08:44 ↗ meet

1:08:44 ↗ what has been put forth in the master

1:08:47 ↗ Mobility plan then we want to hear from

1:08:49 ↗ that type of information from you

1:08:52 ↗ thank you Deputy Administrator Snyder I

1:08:56 ↗ think it's really helpful and I think

1:08:57 ↗ it's important

1:08:58 ↗ um in a way I mean we're all always

1:09:00 ↗ learning and I think that if we don't

1:09:03 ↗ see the projects but we it ends up being

1:09:05 ↗ a way to pressure test the criteria

1:09:07 ↗ right and pressure test did we you know

1:09:10 ↗ as the criteria reflect the values of

1:09:12 ↗ the MMP

1:09:14 ↗ um and so

1:09:15 ↗ that may be a much longer conversation I

1:09:18 ↗ also would just

1:09:19 ↗ um

1:09:20 ↗ I think that if we do get into any

1:09:22 ↗ distractions it'll be helpful to remind

1:09:27 ↗ us

1:09:28 ↗ in terms of like project specifically

1:09:30 ↗ how that issue that some projects in

1:09:35 ↗ somebody's mind might

1:09:36 ↗ um come up how that issue needs to be

1:09:38 ↗ addressed and what the life cycle of a

1:09:40 ↗ particular project might be so that we

1:09:43 ↗ um so I've noticed sometimes when you

1:09:45 ↗ sit on boards

1:09:46 ↗ now is not the time but help us remind

1:09:50 ↗ us when the time is

1:09:52 ↗ um so that we don't feel like we're

1:09:55 ↗ always too late or whatever you know um

1:09:57 ↗ and I don't think this board I mean this

1:10:00 ↗ board has been together for a while

1:10:01 ↗ we've got a lot of experienced people I

1:10:03 ↗ don't think you're gonna see except for

1:10:05 ↗ that maybe the corner North Northwest to

1:10:08 ↗ talk about a new Ford where there's all

1:10:09 ↗ those barrels where it was crazy I'm

1:10:12 ↗ just kidding um you're not gonna this is

1:10:14 ↗ a fairly sophisticated group and I don't

1:10:16 ↗ think you're going to see a bunch of

1:10:17 ↗ random you know project suggestions but

1:10:19 ↗ if anything does come up let's just make

1:10:21 ↗ sure we kind of

1:10:23 ↗ address how that would get into the

1:10:26 ↗ system as opposed to just yeah we can't

1:10:28 ↗ do that now

1:10:29 ↗ um

1:10:30 ↗ and then uh I forget what else is going

1:10:33 ↗ to say but Dave has something he wants

1:10:34 ↗ to say

1:10:35 ↗ so what are we going to look like in

1:10:39 ↗ April

1:10:42 ↗ what's the tab going to look like in

1:10:44 ↗ April

1:10:45 ↗ um yeah they don't start until May so

1:10:49 ↗ basically what she what Andrea was

1:10:52 ↗ talking to was those of us in the room

1:10:55 ↗ and uh our couple of absentees so we'll

1:11:00 ↗ be

1:11:01 ↗ um

1:11:03 ↗ expected to have some good answers and

1:11:10 ↗ yeah I think no I'm getting nervous of

1:11:12 ↗ the service because I'm like you you

1:11:15 ↗ know I didn't

1:11:16 ↗ uh

1:11:18 ↗ Jerry wasn't the only one that didn't

1:11:20 ↗ read the memo it wasn't because I didn't

1:11:22 ↗ want to I just was

1:11:24 ↗ unoverwhelmed like I usually am every

1:11:27 ↗ day of the week and uh uh I I just

1:11:30 ↗ didn't get to it so now I'm getting that

1:11:33 ↗ nervous feeling that we're not gonna

1:11:35 ↗ have the proper answers that the council

1:11:39 ↗ is going to want us to have

1:11:41 ↗ when we get to April

1:11:44 ↗ and I want to avoid that and so on

1:11:47 ↗ saying out loud how do we do that how do

1:11:50 ↗ we avoid to make sure that we have the

1:11:54 ↗ answers

1:11:56 ↗ that they need and want

1:11:59 ↗ through this board

1:12:02 ↗ foreign

1:12:15 ↗ not gotten a chance to review materials

1:12:17 ↗ on occasion and I think it's super

1:12:19 ↗ productive when people can talk to that

1:12:20 ↗ but we do I think this of all the topics

1:12:24 ↗ that we'll face in a year I think this

1:12:26 ↗ is one of the most important and just

1:12:27 ↗ really part about the time uh to spend

1:12:30 ↗ to make sure that we and projects are

1:12:32 ↗ going to move along and um now now that

1:12:35 ↗ will be the time so I don't have any

1:12:37 ↗ other ideas except just to encourage

1:12:39 ↗ each other to make each other

1:12:40 ↗ accountable and and just these guys work

1:12:42 ↗ really hard and they provide us the

1:12:43 ↗ opportunity

1:12:45 ↗ [Music]

1:12:48 ↗ yeah and so I'm very concerned about

1:12:51 ↗ that and

1:12:55 ↗ there's a lot on my plate and I'm not

1:12:58 ↗ trying to excuse that way it's like

1:13:02 ↗ putting out buyers every day this is not

1:13:04 ↗ a fire this is a honor this is a

1:13:07 ↗ privilege that we get to be able to

1:13:09 ↗ influence

1:13:12 ↗ a city's decision and and that's huge

1:13:15 ↗ I just don't wanna

1:13:19 ↗ you've heard me you you know what I'm

1:13:22 ↗ trying to say so it's big and I I just

1:13:26 ↗ want to make sure we're giving them the

1:13:28 ↗ answers that will scare them in the

1:13:31 ↗ right direction

1:13:32 ↗ um

1:13:33 ↗ and to spend the time we need to spend

1:13:37 ↗ to get ready to do that and I'm saying

1:13:40 ↗ that out loud to this board and uh

1:13:44 ↗ and that's what we we've got to do

1:13:48 ↗ so I looked at the desk I'm up to being

1:13:51 ↗ ready but I can't do this by myself and

1:13:54 ↗ uh I'm I'm just saying now alcohol is

1:13:58 ↗ Madam chair that uh you gotta get us a

1:14:02 ↗ plan and figure out how we're gonna get

1:14:06 ↗ there with that information what we've

1:14:08 ↗ gotta kind of review and know

1:14:11 ↗ to make those decisions is that wrong

1:14:14 ↗ I don't mean that to be a burden I mean

1:14:17 ↗ that as

1:14:19 ↗ send me in coach but I I need to know

1:14:22 ↗ what play you want us to play

1:14:27 ↗ and wait I I think we can help

1:14:31 ↗ um I think as a deputy City

1:14:33 ↗ administrator just mentioned I I think

1:14:35 ↗ it will help to be very explicit about

1:14:38 ↗ the role

1:14:40 ↗ and the task

1:14:42 ↗ um that we're asking uh all of you to

1:14:45 ↗ complete and she was wise and pointing

1:14:49 ↗ out that the discussion is not going to

1:14:52 ↗ be about

1:14:55 ↗ individual projects and uh the scope of

1:15:01 ↗ each of those projects or you know where

1:15:03 ↗ the fire hydrants are going to be placed

1:15:05 ↗ on the road improvements but uh the

1:15:08 ↗ conversation will be more about

1:15:13 ↗ so

1:15:15 ↗ um does it look like we have applied

1:15:17 ↗ that in a way that makes sense and your

1:15:21 ↗ feedback on do we have

1:15:25 ↗ um

1:15:26 ↗ projects that you think are are helping

1:15:29 ↗ us to advance the mobility master plan

1:15:33 ↗ and broader I will say kinds of feedback

1:15:38 ↗ that we will be looking for we will be

1:15:40 ↗ explicit about that

1:15:42 ↗ in the memo

1:15:44 ↗ in advance of that the other thing that

1:15:46 ↗ I've heard you say is uh let's give

1:15:49 ↗ people heads up if this is this is a

1:15:52 ↗ bigger meeting

1:15:54 ↗ um there might be more to read and I I

1:15:57 ↗ think we can do that I think uh the

1:15:59 ↗ board leadership

1:16:01 ↗ um and John and I and John the other

1:16:04 ↗ John uh will be communicating over the

1:16:07 ↗ next few weeks about progress on board

1:16:12 ↗ appointments on

1:16:14 ↗ meeting schedules getting those

1:16:16 ↗ appointments reset for example and I

1:16:20 ↗ think we can use those opportunities to

1:16:22 ↗ also communicate what's coming

1:16:25 ↗ um and to help build that readiness and

1:16:27 ↗ we will certainly do our best as well in

1:16:30 ↗ the meeting materials to provide you

1:16:34 ↗ what you need during the course of the

1:16:36 ↗ meeting we have one meeting it's one

1:16:39 ↗ topic of I think two on that meeting

1:16:42 ↗ so we we have to be really

1:16:46 ↗ um cognizant of what can be accomplished

1:16:48 ↗ in that time

1:16:50 ↗ thank you thanks yep we can do this

1:16:55 ↗ um great I don't have any other

1:16:56 ↗ questions Jerry do you have any other

1:16:57 ↗ comments or questions anybody else

1:17:01 ↗ um thank you um thank you

1:17:03 ↗ um Andrea for coming and um I feel like

1:17:05 ↗ we got the

1:17:06 ↗ we've got all kinds of great minds here

1:17:09 ↗ um and we'll get this done so uh with

1:17:11 ↗ that I think we are ready to close that

1:17:14 ↗ topic

1:17:15 ↗ okay

1:17:16 ↗ um so that brings us to item 5A which is

1:17:19 ↗ the board work plan and it sounds like

1:17:21 ↗ you did you just print out just a one

1:17:23 ↗ copy or did you print out those students

1:17:25 ↗ yeah and I can also share it let's share

1:17:27 ↗ on the screen that'd be great yeah

1:17:29 ↗ thanks thank you

1:17:41 ↗ are you bringing it up John oh great

1:17:43 ↗ thanks

1:17:45 ↗ all right did it

1:17:49 ↗ the next time

1:17:53 ↗ that we're talking about yeah

1:17:56 ↗ that's cool

1:17:59 ↗ oh yeah yeah okay

1:18:03 ↗ yeah okay

1:18:06 ↗ all right

1:18:08 ↗ so up here we've got the work plan

1:18:10 ↗ showing what we've already gone over

1:18:12 ↗ this group and what's coming up over the

1:18:14 ↗ next three months in April we have the

1:18:19 ↗ big CIP discussion that we just spend a

1:18:22 ↗ lot of time talking about

1:18:24 ↗ we also have the transit shuttle this is

1:18:27 ↗ the one that came out of trying to

1:18:29 ↗ provide

1:18:30 ↗ transit to the squawk and Alice

1:18:32 ↗ neighborhoods and we now have a proposal

1:18:35 ↗ that we'll be bringing to the tab that

1:18:37 ↗ would work on

1:18:43 ↗ in May

1:18:45 ↗ continuing on the transit shuttle will

1:18:47 ↗ be a draft contract to get feedback on

1:18:50 ↗ as well as the transit gaps analysis

1:18:53 ↗ that Thomas has been talking about

1:18:55 ↗ earlier

1:18:56 ↗ and then in June we have training for

1:18:59 ↗ open public meetings and public record

1:19:02 ↗ trip Act

1:19:04 ↗ and I'll I'll add there may be other

1:19:06 ↗ topics of training for that meeting and

1:19:09 ↗ I I think there is some other discussion

1:19:14 ↗ about where when

1:19:17 ↗ um and to what degree we want to do

1:19:19 ↗ training as we spoke about tonight um

1:19:22 ↗ comprehensive master plan and the

1:19:24 ↗ mobility Minister plan and

1:19:26 ↗ I wanted to add that regardless of what

1:19:30 ↗ we do in the June meeting we are

1:19:33 ↗ anticipating

1:19:34 ↗ staff members sitting down with new

1:19:38 ↗ members of the tab and trying to give

1:19:40 ↗ them a little higher a little touch and

1:19:44 ↗ background on each of those plans so

1:19:46 ↗ that they can come to the first meeting

1:19:48 ↗ feeling relatively comfortable in their

1:19:51 ↗ understanding that those documents in

1:19:53 ↗ particular

1:19:55 ↗ but I I've also heard from the board and

1:19:58 ↗ from you tonight that there's a desire

1:20:00 ↗ for at least a refresher course and so

1:20:05 ↗ we can continue to talk about how we

1:20:07 ↗ might be able to deliver on that wish

1:20:11 ↗ great

1:20:12 ↗ any more any questions on the boardwalk

1:20:15 ↗ plan

1:20:20 ↗ great uh moving along we do we have a

1:20:23 ↗ staff report

1:20:25 ↗ I feel like we have done that throughout

1:20:28 ↗ yeah yeah we don't have anything else to

1:20:30 ↗ happen okay

1:20:33 ↗ um then that leaves us with the chair

1:20:35 ↗ report and I just wanted to mention that

1:20:37 ↗ we had interviewed several candidates

1:20:39 ↗ for the tab

1:20:41 ↗ um it's not been resolved yet but uh I

1:20:44 ↗ personally was really excited about the

1:20:45 ↗ quality of candidates that we're

1:20:48 ↗ interested so that was really great

1:20:51 ↗ um the only bad news is and

1:20:53 ↗ um at this point we didn't have the

1:20:55 ↗ youth seat is required to be reserved

1:20:58 ↗ for Youth and we don't have a use an

1:21:01 ↗ interested Youth and so that will end up

1:21:03 ↗ remaining an open seat but we should

1:21:05 ↗ hopefully hopefully fill the others

1:21:09 ↗ um also I'm just gonna on a kind of

1:21:11 ↗ personal leadership note

1:21:13 ↗ um

1:21:14 ↗ about my myself basically uh I just

1:21:18 ↗ thought it would be worth mentioning

1:21:19 ↗ here in April because we'll be bouncing

1:21:21 ↗ into this or this is March it feels like

1:21:23 ↗ April because it's so I'm reading so

1:21:25 ↗ late this month but I just wanted to put

1:21:27 ↗ this out there kind of going on the line

1:21:28 ↗ and say I am a big believer in rotation

1:21:30 ↗ and Leadership and I don't think you

1:21:32 ↗ should have the same chair year in and

1:21:33 ↗ year out

1:21:34 ↗ um but I am planning on seeking

1:21:37 ↗ um

1:21:40 ↗ me for the next year just because of the

1:21:43 ↗ fact that um we have

1:21:46 ↗ um we are we we have John our Rock but

1:21:49 ↗ we have been Public Works director and a

1:21:50 ↗ new staff liaison and it just feels like

1:21:52 ↗ a good year to have maybe consistency in

1:21:55 ↗ the leadership of the board so I uh will

1:21:57 ↗ be seeking that again for one more year

1:22:00 ↗ and then hopefully someone else will

1:22:02 ↗ um be interested in picking up that role

1:22:05 ↗ I also just wanted to point out there is

1:22:07 ↗ a bit of a I think of it as a bug in the

1:22:09 ↗ code it technically means the month of

1:22:11 ↗ May without a chair and a vice chair and

1:22:13 ↗ so that prep meeting

1:22:16 ↗ um is then

1:22:18 ↗ um either can't happen or is happening

1:22:20 ↗ with someone who's is making an

1:22:21 ↗ assumption that they're going to be re

1:22:23 ↗ uh or re-elected from United and I would

1:22:27 ↗ say in the interest of transparency over

1:22:30 ↗ uh I will choose efficiency over being

1:22:32 ↗ technically correct and I would be happy

1:22:35 ↗ to serve as acting chair for that period

1:22:38 ↗ um so it's kind of a minor point but I

1:22:40 ↗ just want to make it clear

1:22:42 ↗ um that I feel I would feel awkward

1:22:45 ↗ doing a job that it was technically

1:22:48 ↗ because they're supposed to be appointed

1:22:49 ↗ in the main meeting and so and then you

1:22:51 ↗ end an April 30th so it's just a silly

1:22:55 ↗ little glitch but I just wanted to be

1:22:57 ↗ open about that so I'm not interested in

1:22:59 ↗ a power crap I just

1:23:04 ↗ I'm really um

1:23:06 ↗ anxious to you know to pass this on

1:23:08 ↗ eventually but it just feels like right

1:23:10 ↗ now is maybe a good time just to serve

1:23:11 ↗ one more year so that will be I will be

1:23:13 ↗ seeking nomination um for that uh and

1:23:16 ↗ that's all I have to share

1:23:18 ↗ um

1:23:20 ↗ Vice chair but uh and then that sounds

1:23:24 ↗ like um unless we have any other

1:23:25 ↗ business or announcements

1:23:29 ↗ no no I think so

1:23:34 ↗ question

1:23:37 ↗ point of order

1:23:39 ↗ can we or can we not uh elect a

1:23:43 ↗ temporary chair

1:23:45 ↗ at this meeting to guide us through

1:23:48 ↗ until we

1:23:50 ↗ we don't have a point a new chair we

1:23:52 ↗ elect a new chair correct you the chair

1:23:55 ↗ is elected chair and my shirt elected in

1:23:57 ↗ May and determines full track and we

1:24:01 ↗ don't have that but we could elect a

1:24:04 ↗ temporary chair until

1:24:08 ↗ um I'm not sure it's necessary my my

1:24:11 ↗ strategy was just to mention it and

1:24:12 ↗ hearing no obligation was just going to

1:24:14 ↗ move forward with that because I just I

1:24:17 ↗ wasn't too super super worried about it

1:24:19 ↗ I thought you guys would want me to see

1:24:21 ↗ that but if you guys would feel more

1:24:22 ↗ comfortable

1:24:23 ↗ um actually making that formal I mean

1:24:24 ↗ our clerk is was here at the beginning

1:24:26 ↗ of the name she's gone I'm not I'm not

1:24:28 ↗ sure it's particularly I don't think

1:24:30 ↗ it's necessary and it is a standard

1:24:32 ↗ practice under Robert's Rules and often

1:24:35 ↗ in bylaws and often in ordinances that

1:24:37 ↗ it is stated as the chair serves until

1:24:40 ↗ that new election of hers it does say

1:24:43 ↗ the chair serves until the last time I

1:24:45 ↗ checked it says the chair serves through

1:24:48 ↗ April through April and that's what

1:24:51 ↗ you're saying about it was weird and I

1:24:52 ↗ understand that when you're saying this

1:24:53 ↗ is not an unusual thing I'm I'm saying

1:24:55 ↗ it's not necessarily unusual and when

1:24:58 ↗ there's

1:24:59 ↗ um uh sometimes that Gap right between

1:25:04 ↗ um the moment when an appointment occurs

1:25:07 ↗ um it's usually resolved by some

1:25:10 ↗ language that says that the past year

1:25:12 ↗ continues to serve until one no one is

1:25:14 ↗ appointed Okay so

1:25:16 ↗ if this ordinance lacks that language

1:25:18 ↗ but I could be wrong but that's what was

1:25:20 ↗ mine that

1:25:23 ↗ um I don't think there's any concern and

1:25:24 ↗ I don't think the mortgage Act

1:25:27 ↗ if it's okay with you I I don't feel

1:25:29 ↗ like we need to act are you cool

1:25:31 ↗ we're we're just going to make you the

1:25:33 ↗ stuff to eat that's all right

1:25:35 ↗ it was

1:25:37 ↗ a good thing

1:25:39 ↗ oh thank you I appreciate the vote of

1:25:41 ↗ confidence it's just

1:25:43 ↗ uh if that's what needs to take place to

1:25:46 ↗ make sure the tab had that cover that we

1:25:50 ↗ we could do that right now

1:25:55 ↗ um but it sounds to me like you're wrong

1:26:00 ↗ someone decides we need to do it it

1:26:02 ↗ could be done anymore yeah yeah yeah

1:26:05 ↗ I keep thinking that was in the next

1:26:07 ↗ month I guess this meeting is so late in

1:26:09 ↗ the morning

1:26:11 ↗ I think all we have for the day and um

1:26:16 ↗ we should adjourn

1:26:18 ↗ I'm gonna turn this meeting early it's 7

1:26:20 ↗ 30 7 31. thank you everybody

1:26:23 ↗ thank you to all the staff hi everyone

Approved minutes

Extracted from the next meeting's packet, where this meeting's minutes were approved as a consent-calendar attachment.

Open PDF

Attendance

Council / Members (5)

Cynthia Krass

Julian Mydlil

Dave Waggoner

Kristi Tripple

Jeri Bernstein (remotely)

Staff (4)

Emily Moon, Public Works Director

John Mortenson, Senior Transportation Manager

John Larson-Friend, Transportation Program Coordinator

Thomas Valdriz, Senior Transportation Planner

Excused

Erika Boyd

Micah Zeitz-Chua

Recommendations & actions (3)

Sentences extracted from the narrative containing words like recommended, requested, directed, moved, or approved. Best-effort — verify against the full minutes for context.

a) Minutes of February 22, 2023 were approved with no edits
b) Minutes of Special Meeting on February 16, 2023 were approved with no edits
The Comp Plan Update is scheduled to be adopted in the fourth quarter of