Transportation Advisory Board · Thursday, June 16, 2022 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of April 21, 2022

packet pp.3–5

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 04-21-22 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Transportation Advisory Board 6:00 PM Virtual Meeting April 21, 2022 MINUTES

Minutes of May 19, 2022

packet pp.7–9

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES b) 05-19-22 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Transportation Advisory Board 6:00 PM Virtual Meeting May 19, 2022 MINUTES

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

Open Government & Parliamentary Basics Training (I)

Tisha Gieser, City Clerk · packet pp.11–30

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Staff report:

Open Government & Parliamentary Basics Training JUNE 16, 2022 | TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD

7:05 PM Street Standards Updates (I)

Thomas Valdriz, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.55–66

Topics: Transportation

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Staff report:

Staff will provide an introduction to the citywide Transit Study, with a focus on the project’s expected timeline and deliverables.

Citywide Transit Study

Information · Thomas Valdriz, Senior Transportation Planner

Topics: Transportation

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5. REPORTS

Board Work Plan

packet pp.67

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Staff report:

Transportation Improvement Program (TIP) Update Equity Update Transit Study Intro Update Performance Metrics Intro Update ADA Transition Plan Intro Concurrency Update Update ITS Study Intro Parks Projects Update Metro Update Parks Wayfinding Update 2023 Comprehensive Plan Update Mobility Master Plan (MMP) Review 2023 Board Work Plan Review Open Public Meetings & Public Records Act Training

Staff Report

Chair Report

Youth Report

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0:01 ↗ all right good evening my name is

0:03 ↗ cynthia cross i'm the

0:06 ↗ chair at this time of the transportation

0:09 ↗ advisory board welcome to the june

0:12 ↗ uh 16th meeting regular meeting

0:14 ↗ um i want to so the meeting is now open

0:17 ↗ and i want to recognize that um jerry

0:19 ↗ you know i've kind of lost track i know

0:21 ↗ we made a shift but jerry i don't know

0:23 ↗ if you're technically an alternate but

0:24 ↗ tonight um

0:26 ↗ um because we have

0:29 ↗ not a full house um that would make you

0:31 ↗ a regular member i'm sorry can someone

0:33 ↗ remind me of cherry it

0:35 ↗ things have um

0:36 ↗ oh and there's looks like erica sorry

0:39 ↗ we're

0:40 ↗ meeting is underway and there's a couple

0:41 ↗ people coming on so i'm getting a little

0:43 ↗ okay um

0:45 ↗ before we carry on

0:46 ↗ is jerry a regular member or she's still

0:48 ↗ an alternate

0:49 ↗ it's still an ultimate okay so the way i

0:52 ↗ have it is um

0:54 ↗ at this point

0:55 ↗ for this meeting you're promoted to a

0:57 ↗ regular

0:58 ↗ um member okay um and with that uh

1:02 ↗ before we go any further though i did

1:04 ↗ want to

1:06 ↗ invite isabelle to introduce us to our

1:08 ↗ newest i believe newest staff member

1:11 ↗ that we are i believe not have not had

1:13 ↗ the opportunity to meet yet that would

1:14 ↗ be thomas

1:16 ↗ yes thomas is a senior transportation

1:20 ↗ planner working with cpd

1:23 ↗ with steven

1:24 ↗ stevens team

1:26 ↗ thomas lee hi

1:30 ↗ yep uh yes my name is thomas valdrez i'm

1:32 ↗ the new senior transportation planner at

1:34 ↗ esqua

1:36 ↗ well it's very nice to meet you thank

1:37 ↗ you and welcome thank you

1:40 ↗ all right well with that uh i will be

1:43 ↗ seeking approval by unanimous consent

1:45 ↗ for the

1:46 ↗ uh both the april and the may minutes

1:49 ↗ that were presented in our packet

1:52 ↗ i'm not hearing any objection to

1:56 ↗ seeking unanimous consent

1:58 ↗ so therefore the minutes are approved

2:02 ↗ from both april and may

2:05 ↗ that brings us to public comment um john

2:08 ↗ do we have anybody this evening that is

2:11 ↗ preparing to make public comment

2:14 ↗ i do not see anyone in the attendee room

2:20 ↗ okay well seeing now we'll go ahead and

2:21 ↗ close public comment

2:24 ↗ and

2:25 ↗ with great efficiency we are now at um

2:28 ↗ item four regular business and um i want

2:31 ↗ to make sure i'm pronouncing tisha's

2:32 ↗ name right is it short i

2:34 ↗ tisha okay

2:37 ↗ um so unless isabelle if you have any

2:39 ↗ other opening comments or should we just

2:41 ↗ turn it right over to tisha

2:44 ↗ no i believe we can turn it over to

2:48 ↗ tisha

2:57 ↗ john can you

2:59 ↗ make tisha a first winner

3:10 ↗ thank you john

3:12 ↗ let me just a minute here and i'll get

3:13 ↗ my powerpoint going here

3:31 ↗ okay

3:33 ↗ all right hi everybody um yes cynthia

3:36 ↗ you had it right my name is tisha geezer

3:38 ↗ um i'm the city clerk in issaquah i've

3:41 ↗ been working in izakawa for about six

3:43 ↗ years but this is my um first year as

3:45 ↗ the city clerk so i know um tina eggers

3:48 ↗ has given uh probably all of you open

3:51 ↗ government training in the past um

3:54 ↗ she um and i feel that it's important to

3:57 ↗ give all of our boards and commissions

3:59 ↗ just a refresher of these two state laws

4:02 ↗ that impact you because

4:04 ↗ you you are volunteers for the city of

4:06 ↗ issaquah and so

4:08 ↗ tonight i'm going to cover

4:10 ↗ two main state laws that i want to again

4:12 ↗ just give you a brief refresher on i

4:14 ↗ know all of you have served on tab and

4:17 ↗ and let me start by saying thank you

4:19 ↗ thank you for volunteering time you know

4:21 ↗ it's a beautiful sunny evening and

4:23 ↗ you're here

4:25 ↗ to make issaquah a better place and to

4:27 ↗ volunteer your expertise and your unique

4:30 ↗ perspective and

4:31 ↗ we so value the high level of

4:34 ↗ volunteerism

4:35 ↗ here in issaquah so so thank you

4:39 ↗ so i'll get started i'll start with

4:41 ↗ these uh an overview of these two state

4:43 ↗ laws and how they relate to you um and

4:45 ↗ then i'm gonna talk a little bit about

4:47 ↗ just like the meeting mechanics um

4:49 ↗ parliamentary procedure and i'm gonna

4:51 ↗ try and make make that pretty quick and

4:53 ↗ then if there's specific questions

4:56 ↗ um that you have i'm happy to stay on

4:58 ↗ and answer any any any questions you

5:01 ↗ have

5:02 ↗ so

5:03 ↗ um i'm gonna talk to you for um about 10

5:06 ↗ minutes or so about these two laws

5:08 ↗ they're referred to in washington state

5:10 ↗ as the sunshine laws because they they

5:13 ↗ shine light on what we do as government

5:16 ↗ agencies

5:17 ↗ and they're really about making sure

5:19 ↗ that government's accessible

5:21 ↗ to

5:22 ↗ to the

5:23 ↗ people that the government's serving the

5:24 ↗ public

5:27 ↗ um so let me name them too so the first

5:30 ↗ one we have is the open public meetings

5:32 ↗ act and the second is the public records

5:34 ↗ act um as i mentioned we like to give

5:37 ↗ this training annually to all of our

5:38 ↗ board and commissioners just to kind of

5:40 ↗ refresh your memory on a few things for

5:43 ↗ you to keep in mind throughout the year

5:45 ↗ in your role as a commissioner um

5:47 ↗ because there are some penalties if we

5:49 ↗ violate these state laws

5:52 ↗ both for the agency and there is some

5:54 ↗ personal liability i'll talk to you

5:56 ↗ about that um

5:57 ↗ briefly here

6:00 ↗ so the first one we'll cover is the open

6:02 ↗ public meetings act you know we in the

6:05 ↗ clerk's office one of our primary roles

6:08 ↗ in partnership with your staff liaison

6:10 ↗ isabel and john is to make sure that

6:12 ↗ we're always meeting the requirements of

6:14 ↗ the state law with your meeting so we

6:16 ↗ ensure that your meetings are all of

6:18 ↗ your meetings are open to the public so

6:20 ↗ in a physical environment the doors open

6:22 ↗ in the virtual environment that phone

6:24 ↗ number that webex phone number and webex

6:26 ↗ meeting link are published

6:29 ↗ we also are entering uh notice so that

6:32 ↗ people know if they want to talk to you

6:34 ↗ about transportation issues they know

6:36 ↗ when you're meeting

6:37 ↗ and you know we publish an agenda as

6:39 ↗ well um as well as minutes so that's

6:41 ↗ another requirement of this law that we

6:43 ↗ produce minutes of of what happened at

6:45 ↗ the meetings the idea behind this law is

6:47 ↗ that the public should be able to hear

6:49 ↗ any discussion around city business um

6:52 ↗ so this means that conversations between

6:54 ↗ you need to occur at an open public

6:57 ↗ meeting and there are there's some

6:58 ↗ exceptions to that we'll talk about um

7:00 ↗ in a few minutes

7:02 ↗ um one of the things we also just like

7:04 ↗ to

7:05 ↗ remind you of is you sort of have two

7:08 ↗ two categories of meetings you have your

7:10 ↗ regular monthly meetings and those are

7:12 ↗ um like tonight the third thursday at

7:14 ↗ six o'clock

7:16 ↗ your new meeting location starting uh

7:19 ↗ next month will be at tibbetts manor

7:21 ↗ we'll talk about that shortly too

7:24 ↗ but you also are going to hold meetings

7:25 ↗ at different times you know maybe

7:27 ↗ there's a scheduling issue maybe you

7:28 ↗ want to meet with another board

7:31 ↗ anytime you're meeting outside of that

7:32 ↗ date time or location we call it a

7:34 ↗ special meeting and the only thing

7:37 ↗ that's kind of important for you to keep

7:38 ↗ in mind is when you have a state law has

7:42 ↗ specific requirements around special

7:43 ↗ meetings and one of them is you can

7:45 ↗ really only talk about the items on your

7:47 ↗ agenda during a special meeting so we're

7:50 ↗ really careful when we prepare your

7:52 ↗ special meeting agendas that it includes

7:54 ↗ everything expected to come before

7:56 ↗ the uh the commission um the board i'm

8:00 ↗ sorry in your case um and so because at

8:03 ↗ your regular meetings you technically

8:05 ↗ have some flexibility we produce an

8:07 ↗ agenda but if a majority of the board

8:10 ↗ wanted to talk about a topic not on your

8:13 ↗ agenda you could do that at one of your

8:15 ↗ regular meetings we wouldn't want you to

8:17 ↗ do that um at any of your special

8:19 ↗ meetings so just wanted to

8:22 ↗ to point that out and again we're

8:24 ↗ looking out for that

8:25 ↗ when we are working on your agendas

8:29 ↗ um so as i i've pretty much covered this

8:32 ↗ already but so some of our requirements

8:34 ↗ under this open public meetings act we

8:36 ↗ need to publish your agendas provide

8:37 ↗ advanced notice to the public

8:39 ↗ we need to make sure your meetings are

8:41 ↗ open uh public comment isn't re

8:44 ↗ well there's actually a new state law

8:46 ↗ that is requiring requiring public

8:48 ↗ comment of a governing body when they

8:50 ↗ take action um we

8:52 ↗ it's

8:53 ↗ uh it isn't

8:55 ↗ fully mandated for your board but we

8:57 ↗ think it's a good idea and clearly you

8:59 ↗ do too it's on your agendas it's in your

9:02 ↗ um rules so that's a that's a component

9:04 ↗ of your

9:05 ↗ of your meetings in addition to allowing

9:07 ↗ the public to be here you want to hear

9:09 ↗ from them and i know you have some um

9:11 ↗ specifications about how long they can

9:13 ↗ speak to you and such and that's very

9:15 ↗ common among our boards

9:19 ↗ uh this is just sort of an fyi there are

9:22 ↗ some exceptions to the open public

9:24 ↗ meetings act i don't expect the tab

9:26 ↗ would ever have a reason to go into an

9:29 ↗ executive session but we see it the city

9:32 ↗ council fairly frequently if there's

9:34 ↗ issues that are

9:35 ↗ sensitive to the public like the

9:37 ↗ purchase of real estate or litigation

9:39 ↗ the

9:40 ↗ a government body can go into a closed

9:44 ↗ session but only for really specific

9:46 ↗ reasons and

9:48 ↗ things talked about in those sessions

9:50 ↗ are confidential so this is just letting

9:52 ↗ you know there are some exceptions but i

9:53 ↗ wouldn't expect them to occur at tab

9:59 ↗ so um let's talk a little bit about a

10:01 ↗ quorum um so for the the tab a quorum of

10:05 ↗ your uh board is five members um it's

10:08 ↗ important for two reasons one you need

10:11 ↗ five of you to even hold any kind of

10:13 ↗ meeting you know just to even call the

10:15 ↗ meeting well you can call a meeting to

10:17 ↗ order with less than five but you can't

10:18 ↗ really do anything unless there are five

10:21 ↗ of you so attendance is is important

10:24 ↗ um we also want you to keep the number

10:26 ↗ five in mind because we want to avoid

10:28 ↗ having five of you together outside of

10:31 ↗ one of these meetings

10:33 ↗ if you want to meet just socially at a

10:35 ↗ restaurant or someone's backyard just to

10:38 ↗ talk about the weather and how great is

10:40 ↗ the choice and all those things um you

10:42 ↗ can do that but we wouldn't want you for

10:45 ↗ example to be at a local

10:47 ↗ event where there was like a

10:49 ↗ transportation topic that might be

10:51 ↗ something the tab would consider in the

10:53 ↗ future we would not want five of you to

10:56 ↗ go to that event

10:58 ↗ um

10:58 ↗ and if you found if you arrived at that

11:01 ↗ event and saw four of your tab

11:02 ↗ colleagues we would uh urge you to leave

11:06 ↗ the event or definitely not

11:08 ↗ gather together and put your heads

11:10 ↗ together and talk because anytime there

11:12 ↗ are five of you together

11:14 ↗ and transportation is an issue it could

11:17 ↗ be it could be considered a meeting

11:20 ↗ so

11:22 ↗ that's one thing we want you to be

11:23 ↗ mindful of i think something that's more

11:26 ↗ common

11:27 ↗ is when uh boarding commission members

11:30 ↗ inadvertently form what's called a

11:32 ↗ serial meeting

11:34 ↗ this is when you're getting like kind of

11:36 ↗ collective input so this could be one of

11:38 ↗ you talking to two of your colleagues

11:40 ↗ after a meeting to get their thoughts on

11:43 ↗ something maybe coming up next month

11:45 ↗ and then one of the three of you then

11:48 ↗ reaches out to another one or two

11:50 ↗ commission members to share

11:52 ↗ the other members

11:54 ↗ thoughts and get these

11:56 ↗ two members thoughts you're you're kind

11:58 ↗ of collecting

11:59 ↗ collecting and sharing

12:01 ↗ viewpoints

12:02 ↗ um you're it's it's not meeting the

12:05 ↗ spirit of the open public meetings act

12:07 ↗ which is that all your deliberations

12:08 ↗ occur at an open meeting

12:11 ↗ so

12:11 ↗ we want you to just be careful about

12:13 ↗ that um and aware of it this can also be

12:16 ↗ a little problematic with email so we

12:18 ↗ don't want you replying all the emails

12:20 ↗ with your viewpoints and soliciting

12:23 ↗ ideas that's definitely not a good idea

12:25 ↗ um one of the things we recommend is you

12:27 ↗ know include city staff when you're

12:29 ↗ emailing so they can kind of help not

12:31 ↗ only then do they have your an email

12:33 ↗ with a copy we'll talk about that in a

12:35 ↗ minute but they can also they're kind of

12:37 ↗ helping observe the communication that's

12:39 ↗ happening and can kind of help if they

12:41 ↗ see some of that behavior they can stop

12:43 ↗ it so

12:44 ↗ um

12:45 ↗ that's

12:46 ↗ that those are the big messages on the

12:48 ↗ open public meetings act and if you have

12:50 ↗ questions

12:51 ↗ let me know

12:55 ↗ okay so your first in-person meeting

12:58 ↗ is

12:59 ↗ in quite a while is going to be next

13:02 ↗ month barring any major changes in our

13:05 ↗ public health situation

13:08 ↗ we had some consolidation of our city

13:10 ↗ facilities during covid and

13:12 ↗ the meeting room that this group used

13:15 ↗ previously is

13:16 ↗ the building is closed and so

13:19 ↗ we're using a city facility called the

13:21 ↗ tibbetts manor it used to be used for

13:23 ↗ rentals for weddings and events um it's

13:26 ↗ it's it's quite in my opinion it's quite

13:28 ↗ nice and comfortable um so that is where

13:31 ↗ you should plan uh to meet for your july

13:35 ↗ 21st meeting the expectation

13:38 ↗ of the mayor

13:39 ↗ the mayor's office and our city

13:41 ↗ leadership is that all boarding

13:43 ↗ commission members all of our boards and

13:45 ↗ commissions attend these meetings in

13:47 ↗ person

13:49 ↗ if you can't be there in person because

13:51 ↗ of illness travel

13:52 ↗ whatever it might be please provide

13:55 ↗ advance notice to isabel

13:58 ↗ a minimum if possible a minimum of five

14:00 ↗ days in advance but we've advanced

14:03 ↗ notice is even more helpful so we can

14:05 ↗ figure out if there is a quorum

14:07 ↗ um

14:09 ↗ if something comes up last minute uh

14:11 ↗ just give any advance notice you can so

14:13 ↗ that you know your chair cynthia can

14:15 ↗ note uh your absence is excused

14:19 ↗ we will be uh for tab for most about

14:22 ↗ half of our boards we are going to

14:24 ↗ continue to allow for virtual

14:27 ↗ participation by the public so there

14:29 ↗ will be a virtual element you may have a

14:32 ↗ presenter who attends virtually and then

14:35 ↗ anyone from the public can attend

14:37 ↗ virtually so we'll we have the room set

14:40 ↗ up for for a hybrid meeting

14:44 ↗ again if you have questions um

14:46 ↗ john or isabel let me know i don't have

14:48 ↗ the chat open right now but

14:51 ↗ all right uh okay and then we uh just

14:55 ↗ real quick as i mentioned there are some

14:57 ↗ personal penalties um for the open

15:00 ↗ public meetings act and that's why we

15:01 ↗ like to give you these reminders every

15:03 ↗ year um and they're shown here on the

15:06 ↗ screen there are some implications um to

15:08 ↗ action you may have taken

15:11 ↗ as well okay so with that let's move on

15:13 ↗ to the um okay conflict of interest

15:16 ↗ we'll add order here um i don't think we

15:18 ↗ have any brand new members in your group

15:22 ↗ um tonight so you do not need to worry

15:24 ↗ about the slide you when you joined the

15:26 ↗ board you should have um

15:28 ↗ reviewed our code of ethics and signed

15:31 ↗ an acknowledgement so we will kind of

15:33 ↗ skip over that covers the topics listed

15:36 ↗ so for public records i just have one

15:38 ↗ slide here i just want to take a couple

15:40 ↗ minutes to talk to you about records

15:41 ↗ that you might create or use in your

15:44 ↗ role so most of the information you're

15:47 ↗ getting is coming from the city in your

15:49 ↗ agenda packets

15:50 ↗ you don't have to worry about retaining

15:52 ↗ any of that this is the city's

15:54 ↗ caretaking it so if you want to keep

15:57 ↗ track of things have a folder for all

15:59 ↗ your emails or if you print things

16:01 ↗ whatever your process is that's fine um

16:03 ↗ but you don't you can just destroy it as

16:06 ↗ you wish um

16:08 ↗ if you take notes if you're a note taker

16:10 ↗ you take notes before the meeting during

16:12 ↗ the meeting those are what we are

16:14 ↗ considered uh transitory records

16:17 ↗ uh in in city records speak which means

16:20 ↗ they don't have long-term value and you

16:22 ↗ can also get rid of those when you're

16:24 ↗ done with them and we encourage you to

16:26 ↗ do that

16:27 ↗ because us local governments have a lot

16:30 ↗ of rules around how long we have to keep

16:32 ↗ our records and we also are required to

16:34 ↗ give anyone who asks pretty much any

16:37 ↗ record that they want um there are some

16:41 ↗ exemptions for sensitive information

16:43 ↗ that means somebody could ask for

16:45 ↗ example for um you know anything related

16:49 ↗ any uh

16:50 ↗ any notes correspondence um or

16:53 ↗ records related to a specific project

16:56 ↗ and if tab had received an update on

16:58 ↗ that project

17:00 ↗ you

17:01 ↗ our public records officer at the city

17:02 ↗ might reach out to you and ask you if

17:04 ↗ you took any notes

17:07 ↗ so

17:08 ↗ if you for things that you choose to

17:11 ↗ keep like if you if you've taken notes

17:13 ↗ and you've chosen to keep them

17:15 ↗ and we ask you for them you need to tell

17:18 ↗ us

17:18 ↗ if you have them you have an obligation

17:21 ↗ just to be honest about what you so what

17:24 ↗ what records you might have that the

17:25 ↗ city doesn't have in its possession so

17:28 ↗ uh the main message here is if you are

17:31 ↗ generating anything like that just keep

17:33 ↗ it organized or routinely destroy it so

17:36 ↗ that if we need to ask you for it you

17:38 ↗ have it in hand

17:40 ↗ same goes for email so any email that

17:43 ↗ isabelle or john or another city staff

17:44 ↗ has copied on we've got a copy we're

17:47 ↗ good if you're emailing directly with

17:49 ↗ another tab member or a member of the

17:50 ↗ public we don't have that email you can

17:53 ↗ if you'd like as a practice just copy a

17:55 ↗ city staff person that's great happy to

17:58 ↗ we're happy to be copied and then we

18:00 ↗ have those emails if we don't have those

18:02 ↗ emails and someone requests them we

18:04 ↗ would reach out to you and we'd ask you

18:06 ↗ if you had any emails i some board

18:08 ↗ members do choose to have like a

18:10 ↗ separate email account that's just

18:12 ↗ dedicated to their role on the border

18:14 ↗ commission just to keep things real

18:16 ↗ clean that's something you can do you

18:18 ↗ can also you know have a folder

18:20 ↗ and just you know put any emails um

18:23 ↗ there again just

18:25 ↗ stay organized

18:27 ↗ with your correspondence

18:29 ↗ um with your correspondence we don't

18:32 ↗ want you to delete

18:35 ↗ mentioned notes being something that you

18:37 ↗ can just get rid of because they're

18:39 ↗ they're have a temporary value your your

18:41 ↗ communication has a longer

18:43 ↗ term records value so keep those emails

18:47 ↗ keep them organized if you want to give

18:49 ↗ them to us

18:50 ↗ so they're off out of your hands

18:53 ↗ we're happy to take them

18:56 ↗ so those are the main messages there

18:58 ↗ again let me know if you have questions

18:59 ↗ now or in the future happy to help

19:01 ↗ answer them

19:04 ↗ i feel like i've been talking at you a

19:06 ↗ lot um

19:07 ↗ oh i see a hand

19:09 ↗ hi dave

19:17 ↗ sorry trying to unmute

19:20 ↗ uh just a comment

19:22 ↗ uh there was an

19:24 ↗ issue

19:26 ↗ about a certain

19:28 ↗ board

19:31 ↗ in 2015

19:33 ↗ and i was asked to provide my

19:36 ↗ notebook of information to the city

19:39 ↗ and

19:40 ↗ i did provide it to the city

19:43 ↗ got it back so it's

19:44 ↗ not something to be afraid of

19:48 ↗ it's a good thing

19:51 ↗ that's all i wanted to say

19:55 ↗ thank you thank you for adding that and

19:57 ↗ that's that's helpful

19:58 ↗ yeah you're right it is it isn't meant

20:00 ↗ to uh

20:02 ↗ yes you do not need to be afraid thank

20:03 ↗ you dave

20:06 ↗ okay i'm gonna talk oh cynthia yes i

20:09 ↗ guess i just wanna so a hundred percent

20:11 ↗ of email even if it's not substantive if

20:13 ↗ it's just you know are you gonna be at

20:14 ↗ the meeting tonight or like

20:18 ↗ that's um that is

20:21 ↗ yeah that's not important that is a

20:23 ↗ that's a

20:24 ↗ transitory message as we would call it

20:27 ↗ you know and i guess it's we don't we

20:29 ↗ this is the extent of the records

20:31 ↗ training we usually provide our board

20:32 ↗ and commission members so i think my

20:35 ↗ feeling is i don't want to put the onus

20:38 ↗ on you to have to decipher what can be

20:40 ↗ gotten rid of and what can be kept in

20:43 ↗ terms of email um you know if it feels

20:46 ↗ really obvious like it's yeah that kind

20:49 ↗ of message just

20:51 ↗ um yeah i'm running late or something

20:53 ↗ like that um

20:55 ↗ you're you are correct that can be

20:57 ↗ disposed of but i

20:59 ↗ say it might be wise to just retain

21:03 ↗ your email and we could be

21:06 ↗ eventually um will be the arbiters of

21:09 ↗ what has long-term value and what can

21:12 ↗ can be gotten rid of

21:15 ↗ thank you

21:19 ↗ all right

21:20 ↗ so i'm going to talk to you just a

21:22 ↗ little bit about some of your meeting

21:23 ↗ mechanics and

21:24 ↗ i know for most of our boards and

21:26 ↗ commissions a lot of your meetings are

21:28 ↗ discussion and

21:30 ↗ you're relaying in

21:32 ↗ input providing feedback and it's not so

21:35 ↗ formal always is uh having an emotion in

21:38 ↗ voting so i'm very aware of that i'm

21:41 ↗ going to be talking mostly about motions

21:43 ↗ and voting but a little bit too about

21:45 ↗ just some best practices um for for

21:49 ↗ discussion which uh you know uh i have

21:52 ↗ not attended one of your meetings

21:53 ↗ recently so likely this is this is

21:55 ↗ occurring it's just a little bit of a

21:57 ↗ refresher

22:00 ↗ so

22:03 ↗ a couple things to keep in mind about

22:05 ↗ your role

22:07 ↗ in tab

22:08 ↗ so

22:10 ↗ tab is an advisory body your your power

22:14 ↗ is as a group um

22:16 ↗ the recommendations and outcomes of tab

22:19 ↗ are what fi at least

22:21 ↗ five of you agree to or uh

22:24 ↗ not necessarily so if you have seven of

22:27 ↗ you

22:28 ↗ uh at a board meeting it's a majority

22:31 ↗ of those who are present right so in

22:33 ↗ that case there's seven of you present

22:35 ↗ it's what four of you a majority of you

22:37 ↗ agree to and those those are ultimately

22:39 ↗ the recommendations of the tab and just

22:42 ↗ a good reminder that individual

22:45 ↗ viewpoints absolutely

22:47 ↗ matter um

22:48 ↗ but the

22:49 ↗ the recommendations of this group really

22:52 ↗ need to reflect what a majority of of

22:54 ↗ the group supports and once the

22:56 ↗ recommendation is made by tab the idea

22:59 ↗ is that you honor you honor it that is

23:02 ↗ now like the position of the board um

23:04 ↗ and so uh you know even uh roberts rules

23:08 ↗ even speaks to that a little bit how you

23:10 ↗ don't then go

23:11 ↗ sort of

23:12 ↗ trashing the recommendation of the board

23:16 ↗ even if you maybe don't personally agree

23:18 ↗ with it so just wanted to talk about

23:19 ↗ that concept really briefly

23:23 ↗ um

23:24 ↗ so

23:24 ↗ sometimes uh

23:26 ↗ sometimes your feedback is just kind of

23:29 ↗ determined

23:31 ↗ largely by staff or the chair

23:32 ↗ facilitating your discussion and kind of

23:34 ↗ listening and okay it sounds like

23:36 ↗ there's agreement around this idea

23:38 ↗ sometimes maybe it's hard to tell kind

23:40 ↗ of where everyone's exactly landing or

23:43 ↗ maybe you're being asked to provide like

23:46 ↗ a concrete recommendation on a

23:48 ↗ particular piece of work like the

23:50 ↗ mobility master plan in those cases a

23:54 ↗ motion might be more appropriate because

23:56 ↗ emotion is kind of asking you all it's

23:59 ↗ like formalizing your recommendation in

24:01 ↗ a statement and then it's asking you all

24:03 ↗ to vote on it so it's really clear if

24:05 ↗ you agree or disagree or if you want to

24:07 ↗ make changes

24:08 ↗ um so

24:10 ↗ when at times in your meeting when you

24:11 ↗ have

24:12 ↗ a motion um there's you know some

24:14 ↗ specific

24:16 ↗ considerations around that so emotion

24:18 ↗ would be like a written statement that

24:20 ↗ someone reads you know to a pro

24:23 ↗ adopt or recommended option of a plan or

24:26 ↗ recommend

24:28 ↗ you know adding more

24:31 ↗ climate goals into this or you know

24:32 ↗ whatever it might be that your direction

24:35 ↗ you're formalizing that motion needs to

24:37 ↗ be seconded that motion should be really

24:39 ↗ clear to everyone so if it's someone's

24:42 ↗ making it up and they just say it you

24:43 ↗ know it's like very appropriate to say

24:45 ↗ hey can you write that down or repeat

24:47 ↗ that for me um this has been great with

24:50 ↗ virtual meetings you can put it in the

24:51 ↗ chat

24:52 ↗ at an in-person meeting you can ask you

24:54 ↗ know isabelle or john to like type it up

24:56 ↗ and put it on the screen

24:58 ↗ but it's important that you as members

25:00 ↗ sort of know what's being proposed and

25:03 ↗ especially for the chair too who's

25:04 ↗ helping facilitate

25:06 ↗ and then when you have a motion that's

25:08 ↗ been made and someone seconded it it's

25:10 ↗ before the body and it needs to be

25:12 ↗ addressed by a vote or

25:14 ↗ withdrawing it

25:16 ↗ and so just some basic concepts to talk

25:19 ↗ through

25:20 ↗ um so say there is a motion and say

25:23 ↗ there is a second so you've got this

25:25 ↗ motion in front of you it's time for

25:27 ↗ deliberation um and these are just some

25:29 ↗ basic um sort of tenants of of

25:33 ↗ deliberating whether it's

25:35 ↗ whether you're considering a motion or

25:37 ↗ whether you're just discussing something

25:39 ↗ i'd say these are really some best

25:41 ↗ practices

25:43 ↗ which is just to stay on topic

25:45 ↗ um to you know make sure you're being

25:47 ↗ acknowledged by the chair before you

25:49 ↗ speak and that's really important to

25:50 ↗ kind of keep things diffused

25:52 ↗ and make sure that everyone has had an

25:54 ↗ opportunity to speak once before anyone

25:56 ↗ speaks again

25:57 ↗ um

25:59 ↗ so those are just some basics there

26:01 ↗ there doesn't need to be a limit on how

26:02 ↗ you know how many times someone speaks

26:04 ↗ or an exact timer

26:06 ↗ but just trying to ensure uh equity

26:09 ↗ everyone's getting a chance to be heard

26:12 ↗ uh just a real quick comment here you

26:14 ↗ you seem to have a an excellent grasp of

26:17 ↗ this it was great to hear um

26:19 ↗ acknowledging that an alternate serving

26:21 ↗ as a regular member um but this is just

26:24 ↗ a reminder that if you're taking uh more

26:26 ↗ formal action the form of emotion that

26:29 ↗ during that portion of a meeting the

26:31 ↗ alternate is observing

26:33 ↗ and not participating they can't

26:35 ↗ alternates can't make a motion or

26:37 ↗ participate in debate unless they're

26:39 ↗ filling in for an absent regular member

26:41 ↗ that's why it's important and if you're

26:43 ↗ unsure if you're an alternate and you're

26:44 ↗ not sure if you're supposed to be

26:46 ↗ debating or voting you know certainly

26:48 ↗ ask stop and ask for clarity

26:51 ↗ so everyone can be clear on that

26:55 ↗ uh so i haven't covered amendments here

26:58 ↗ and um

26:59 ↗ so and i'm not going to really talk

27:01 ↗ about those but i will just say that

27:02 ↗ after you make a motion and second it

27:04 ↗ and there's debate that's also an

27:06 ↗ opportunity to perfect and change the

27:08 ↗ motion those are referred to as

27:10 ↗ amendments um happy to talk to anyone

27:12 ↗ who wants to know more about the you

27:15 ↗ know

27:16 ↗ process for that

27:17 ↗ but i just wanted to talk a little bit

27:19 ↗ about voting voting is important one of

27:22 ↗ the most important things is just to

27:23 ↗ know who's voting so that's why it's

27:25 ↗ helpful to know who's serving as a

27:27 ↗ regular member um also you know please

27:30 ↗ speak up actually it's helpful if you

27:32 ↗ reach out to staff in advance if you

27:34 ↗ have a conflict of interest or think you

27:36 ↗ might have a conflict with an item on

27:38 ↗ your agenda

27:39 ↗ um

27:40 ↗ and also

27:41 ↗ uh an abstention so

27:43 ↗ the cities the tab and the city council

27:46 ↗ have the same concept here and your

27:48 ↗ rules they say if you abstain from a

27:50 ↗ vote you actually are considered a yes

27:53 ↗ vote

27:54 ↗ and i think the idea behind that is that

27:56 ↗ really trying to compel people to vote

27:59 ↗ fairly small community it's possible um

28:05 ↗ i guess i shouldn't speak because i

28:06 ↗ don't fully to this because i don't

28:08 ↗ fully understand i don't entirely

28:10 ↗ understand the logic um as to why this

28:12 ↗ was put in place it's in place i believe

28:14 ↗ in all of our boards and our city

28:16 ↗ council i think it was intended to just

28:18 ↗ compel people to vote

28:20 ↗ you're a fairly small group we need your

28:22 ↗ input um so if you are planning to don't

28:26 ↗ want to vote on an issue please let

28:28 ↗ staff know in advance and you would

28:31 ↗ leave the meeting or if you are they

28:33 ↗ present you your vote will be counted as

28:35 ↗ a yes so just wanted to let you know

28:37 ↗ that

28:38 ↗ um another tool i like to mention and

28:40 ↗ that i heard cynthia use at the top of

28:42 ↗ the meeting was unanimous consent you

28:44 ↗ don't have to take like an actual vote

28:46 ↗ on everything if it's if there's clear

28:49 ↗ agreement but you also but you want to

28:51 ↗ kind of just just confirm um you can do

28:55 ↗ a unanimous consent vote or you kind of

28:56 ↗ state the motion say hey does anyone

28:58 ↗ object

28:59 ↗ pause no one objects then it's just

29:02 ↗ assumed that all of you are in support

29:04 ↗ and it saves the trouble of having to do

29:06 ↗ the eyes and the neck the nose

29:09 ↗ uh

29:10 ↗ right here's an example of that that we

29:13 ↗ heard earlier

29:16 ↗ um and then this just really quickly

29:18 ↗ here and this is really more um

29:21 ↗ a responsibility of the chair uh whoever

29:23 ↗ is chairing the meeting there are a few

29:25 ↗ things to be careful you do when you're

29:27 ↗ vote facilitating a vote so you want to

29:30 ↗ make sure there's no more discussion you

29:32 ↗ want to restate the motion just in case

29:34 ↗ someone's confused so everyone's clear

29:36 ↗ you need to call for all those in favor

29:38 ↗ and all those opposed and then announce

29:40 ↗ the outcome and then it's also helpful

29:42 ↗ to like explain maybe the next step or

29:44 ↗ ask staff to do that

29:48 ↗ so that was that was real quick um but i

29:51 ↗ hope i hope it was helpful and uh

29:54 ↗ i am happy to answer any questions but

29:56 ↗ that concludes my presentation

30:03 ↗ that was a great presentation thank you

30:12 ↗ yes thank you i i did not know that

30:15 ↗ uh abstaining counts as a yes vote

30:17 ↗ that's uh really good to know

30:25 ↗ thank you that was really helpful i know

30:27 ↗ we always say that we you know we're not

30:29 ↗ new we don't need this but i do think um

30:31 ↗ it's useful to come back so i'm i'm glad

30:33 ↗ that you did that i think it's

30:34 ↗ definitely worth the time

30:37 ↗ i'm not seeing any other questions so

30:39 ↗ uh

30:40 ↗ it looks like isabelle has had to leave

30:42 ↗ john will continue hosting the meeting

30:44 ↗ um

30:45 ↗ and it looks like the next

30:48 ↗ item on our regular business is um 4b

30:51 ↗ which is the land use and um

30:54 ↗ thomas is going to be presenting on that

30:56 ↗ um

30:58 ↗ and i did want to just mention before we

31:02 ↗ before i turn it over to thomas is that

31:04 ↗ um

31:05 ↗ i

31:06 ↗ i didn't read in the materials i may

31:07 ↗ have missed this sometimes i move a

31:09 ↗ little too fast um trying to cram

31:11 ↗ everything in but i know that some

31:13 ↗ people on this tab have

31:16 ↗ been involved in a subcommittee so i'm

31:18 ↗ hoping we'll have an opportunity to hear

31:20 ↗ from them before we hear from the rest

31:22 ↗ of us when we get to the point

31:25 ↗ of questions and comments but anyway

31:28 ↗ unless there's any further questions or

31:30 ↗ john did you have anything else you want

31:32 ↗ to say before we

31:34 ↗ turn this over to thomas

31:36 ↗ i've got nothing else okay thank you

31:39 ↗ go ahead

31:40 ↗ sounds great

31:41 ↗ uh well yeah thanks again for having me

31:44 ↗ today

31:45 ↗ again my name is thomas feldrez i am the

31:47 ↗ new senior transportation planner

31:49 ↗ here at isqua and today i'll be talking

31:52 ↗ about title 18 which many of you have

31:55 ↗ seen before

31:56 ↗ and

31:57 ↗ the public works street standards update

32:00 ↗ so these are two distinctive projects

32:02 ↗ that i will be discussing briefly today

32:06 ↗ and here's our agenda first i'm going to

32:09 ↗ just talk about the status of the

32:12 ↗ existing

32:13 ↗ title 18 land use code update and i will

32:16 ↗ be introducing

32:17 ↗ the public works street standards update

32:19 ↗ and talking about next steps

32:22 ↗ and again i will i will pause between

32:25 ↗ both of these to give

32:27 ↗ folks from the subcommittee uh some time

32:30 ↗ to talk about what we talked about for

32:32 ↗ land use code

32:36 ↗ uh so just very briefly um i will just

32:39 ↗ touch on what the land use code is

32:41 ↗ so

32:42 ↗ just first wanted to remind folks what

32:44 ↗ we're doing here so the land use code is

32:46 ↗ really just

32:47 ↗ regulating how land is subdivided used

32:50 ↗ and developed so it's really talking

32:52 ↗ about

32:53 ↗ ways to implement these city's adopted

32:56 ↗ plans in a

32:57 ↗ in a way that is just boots on the

32:59 ↗ ground

33:00 ↗ so

33:01 ↗ code is really just talking about land

33:02 ↗ use regulations such as those listed

33:05 ↗ here

33:06 ↗ and why are we doing this update it's

33:08 ↗ really important to just make sure that

33:11 ↗ the laws that we have the regulations

33:13 ↗ that we have are aligned with the with

33:15 ↗ the way that our community wants to go

33:18 ↗ so really aligned with the community's

33:20 ↗ adopted vision goals and policies

33:23 ↗ as it stands uh the current code has a

33:26 ↗ little bit of room to improve

33:28 ↗ and we've uh we've you know we realized

33:30 ↗ this and during this update we're hoping

33:33 ↗ to improve the code's efficiency uh it's

33:36 ↗ equity it's equity

33:38 ↗ its consistency with other rules and its

33:41 ↗ predictability

33:42 ↗ this update is really going to allow us

33:44 ↗ to be more up to date with current

33:46 ↗ applicable laws and industry best

33:48 ↗ practices

33:50 ↗ lastly we really want to make sure that

33:52 ↗ our regulations are organized

33:54 ↗ understandable and easy to use

33:57 ↗ and this update uh hopefully we'll

33:58 ↗ achieve all that

34:03 ↗ and again so you know this organ this

34:06 ↗ this group here you know we're concerned

34:07 ↗ about transportation issues and so

34:10 ↗ for this update we're really going to be

34:11 ↗ focusing on the fifth uh bucket uh the

34:15 ↗ fifth section of this uh

34:18 ↗ topic um and which is the parking and

34:20 ↗ circulation standards

34:24 ↗ uh sort of going more towards the

34:26 ↗ timeline of this project

34:28 ↗ so in phase one which was completed in

34:30 ↗ spring

34:32 ↗ we

34:33 ↗ initiated a gap analyses to assess the

34:36 ↗ performance and uh look at how the

34:38 ↗ existing code is doing relative to uh

34:41 ↗ you know where we want to go as a

34:42 ↗ community

34:43 ↗ during this phase we looked at

34:45 ↗ the goal setting for this update so like

34:47 ↗ you know why are we updating this

34:49 ↗ uh looking at contradictions between the

34:52 ↗ existing code

34:53 ↗ and um

34:54 ↗ you know where

34:56 ↗ sections of the code maybe don't make

34:57 ↗ sense with each other

34:59 ↗ and then also flagging confusing

35:01 ↗ language that may be

35:03 ↗ a little difficult to understand and

35:05 ↗ implement

35:07 ↗ so currently we're working through phase

35:08 ↗ two we're drafting the revised code

35:11 ↗ language

35:12 ↗ during this phase we've been sharing

35:14 ↗ information and engaging with the

35:16 ↗ community um

35:17 ↗ as what was said before uh so on june

35:20 ↗ 1st we met with a subcommittee of the

35:22 ↗ tab

35:22 ↗ and we discussed uh parking and uh

35:25 ↗ electric vehicles uh where's some of the

35:27 ↗ topics that we discussed

35:31 ↗ and as we move forward in phase three

35:33 ↗ we'll be revising the code using the

35:36 ↗ feedback that we've received

35:38 ↗ to date

35:39 ↗ as well as

35:40 ↗ through the rest of the process and

35:42 ↗ we'll also be

35:45 ↗ we're also going to have a full draft

35:47 ↗ ready for the tab to review

35:49 ↗ i believe sometime in fall is the goal

35:51 ↗ here

35:52 ↗ finally we expect that title 18

35:55 ↗ will be updated and adopted by council

35:58 ↗ in winter 2223

36:03 ↗ and here's a timeline for

36:06 ↗ board's involvement so moving forward

36:08 ↗ it's requested

36:10 ↗ by the tab in december that we continue

36:13 ↗ to

36:14 ↗ uh

36:14 ↗ provide summarized updates as the pr as

36:17 ↗ the project progresses

36:19 ↗ by fall we expect that a full update uh

36:22 ↗ sorry a full draft

36:24 ↗ will be ready to provide to the tab uh

36:27 ↗ to to provide feedback uh prior to the

36:29 ↗ legislative process

36:31 ↗ which will occur in winter

36:34 ↗ so

36:35 ↗ at this time i think it would be good to

36:37 ↗ maybe pause uh allow you to ask some

36:39 ↗ questions and then maybe

36:41 ↗ if the subcommittee wants to

36:43 ↗ talk about what was

36:44 ↗ said

36:45 ↗ this may be a good time for that

36:54 ↗ yeah i mean i guess um

36:57 ↗ micah since we're both on the

36:59 ↗ subcommittee and do a little update

37:01 ↗ about what we were talking about then

37:09 ↗ sure

37:10 ↗ yeah

37:12 ↗ i feel like you we had a really robust

37:14 ↗ conversation about the electric vehicles

37:17 ↗ parking um

37:19 ↗ you know in terms of

37:21 ↗ the conversation there

37:24 ↗ you know talking about the ev ready

37:26 ↗ versus

37:27 ↗ um

37:28 ↗ you know ev

37:30 ↗ chargers

37:31 ↗ so there's a robust conversation about

37:33 ↗ that and what kind of requirements

37:35 ↗ especially for the future there would be

37:37 ↗ um

37:39 ↗ like i didn't add something to there

37:42 ↗ yeah

37:43 ↗ definitely conversation i don't think we

37:45 ↗ came to a sort of a final consensus

37:50 ↗ at least for the all the different types

37:52 ↗ you're looking at a lot of questions

37:54 ↗ just around

37:55 ↗ what that would mean for

37:58 ↗ the different types of buildings uh

38:02 ↗ multi-family versus like a large

38:05 ↗ condo versus a town house

38:08 ↗ uh so a lot a lot of discussion but i at

38:10 ↗ least

38:11 ↗ my

38:11 ↗ takeaway wasn't a we had a consensus

38:17 ↗ yeah i mean there wasn't like a strong

38:19 ↗ consensus i would say but you know there

38:21 ↗ was a lot of

38:22 ↗ looking forward towards the future and

38:25 ↗ seeing what the needs would be uh you

38:26 ↗ know four years down from now um

38:30 ↗ and so i think that was one of the main

38:31 ↗ points about parking and circulation

38:33 ↗ just throughout all of our topics so

38:37 ↗ yeah we received a lot of good feedback

38:39 ↗ um a lot of really great questions were

38:41 ↗ asked and um there's some stuff that

38:43 ↗ we're still looking into uh to be

38:45 ↗ transparent um so we are you know

38:47 ↗ working with

38:48 ↗ uh folks from uh pse so there are some

38:51 ↗ questions about like you know the

38:53 ↗ electric grid so we're we're definitely

38:55 ↗ doing uh additional research and we're

38:57 ↗ addressing

38:59 ↗ things were brought up at that meeting

39:01 ↗ so

39:02 ↗ still drafting code in this

39:05 ↗ phase but

39:06 ↗ really great feedback and we'll be

39:09 ↗ looking forward to adding those

39:12 ↗ in the future

39:15 ↗ any other questions

39:18 ↗ christie has a comment

39:21 ↗ thank you

39:22 ↗ so um

39:24 ↗ i had an opportunity with my rally

39:26 ↗ properties hat not as a transportation

39:28 ↗ advisory board to participate in

39:32 ↗ a

39:34 ↗ sort of industry focus group and we had

39:36 ↗ a really good robust conversation as

39:38 ↗ well

39:40 ↗ i think in terms of the code you know

39:42 ↗ sort of cleaning up where they're at

39:44 ↗ today but what um i'm most excited about

39:48 ↗ are the future whiteboard

39:51 ↗ items to be discussed you know in terms

39:53 ↗ of

39:55 ↗ how does parking work with

39:57 ↗ the icap and how do you make the most of

40:00 ↗ land use and multimodal transportation

40:04 ↗ and local circulation and so

40:07 ↗ i think we had a really great

40:08 ↗ conversation but i think we have a ways

40:11 ↗ to go future oriented as well you know

40:14 ↗ there's a lot of things that play into

40:17 ↗ parking and circulation that i think we

40:20 ↗ can

40:21 ↗ be doing better as a community but sort

40:24 ↗ of incrementally so i just wanted to

40:27 ↗ thank steven and jen davis hayes for

40:29 ↗ that opportunity a few weeks a few weeks

40:32 ↗ ago i think

40:33 ↗ so

40:34 ↗ excited to see what that brings

40:37 ↗ yeah definitely

40:38 ↗ um

40:39 ↗ yeah just to actually clarify one thing

40:41 ↗ so the the intent of the subgroup uh

40:43 ↗ the discussions that we've had uh isn't

40:45 ↗ necessarily to get consensus um

40:48 ↗ from you folks but

40:49 ↗ i mean you all had such uh you know

40:51 ↗ really good really good inputs from you

40:53 ↗ know various angles that you've been

40:55 ↗ thinking about so um

40:57 ↗ really all this feedback is super great

40:59 ↗ um it's been really thought-provoking

41:01 ↗ and it's really making an impact on the

41:03 ↗ way that we're drafting this code

41:09 ↗ any other

41:11 ↗ questions or should i keep going

41:14 ↗ yeah

41:15 ↗ um this is cynthia i i

41:17 ↗ was just

41:19 ↗ i found well first of all i do want to

41:21 ↗ thank micah um and julian for serving on

41:24 ↗ that and i'm not sure how much i don't

41:26 ↗ have a great sense of how much time you

41:27 ↗ spent on it um but i i definitely

41:29 ↗ appreciate it

41:31 ↗ i was interested and then i just had

41:32 ↗ some things that kept me from

41:34 ↗ participating but i read with great

41:36 ↗ interest the um

41:37 ↗ goals and outcomes memo

41:40 ↗ and i guess i'm just a little bit

41:42 ↗ confused about

41:44 ↗ um

41:47 ↗ it's great to have this update

41:49 ↗ and if we don't have if this board isn't

41:52 ↗ going to be weighing in on any kind of

41:55 ↗ policies in title 18 in this update

41:58 ↗ then i don't i think updates are

42:00 ↗ appropriate but i'm a little bit

42:02 ↗ confused about

42:04 ↗ whether we will as a board be making any

42:06 ↗ kind of um

42:08 ↗ recommendations and whether we'd be kind

42:09 ↗ of digging in a little bit deeper at

42:11 ↗ some point um so i'm a little bit

42:14 ↗ confused by this and i um

42:16 ↗ i just i guess i'm wondering

42:18 ↗ what are you looking for from us and

42:20 ↗ what when would that happen

42:23 ↗ um

42:24 ↗ yeah there was a lot of meat in that um

42:27 ↗ the document that said goals and

42:29 ↗ outcomes

42:30 ↗ um and then of course it stopped short

42:32 ↗ of actual policies but uh i just wanted

42:35 ↗ to learn more about

42:37 ↗ whether we would be wrestling

42:40 ↗ and providing staff or counsel with

42:43 ↗ our point of view about sort of where

42:45 ↗ you land on some of those or would that

42:47 ↗ happen at the draft stage or are you not

42:49 ↗ necessarily envisioning bringing that to

42:51 ↗ the tab

42:54 ↗ so my understanding and

42:57 ↗ maybe if someone else who has a better

42:59 ↗ history of this could chime in um my

43:02 ↗ understanding is that we'll be providing

43:04 ↗ updates that this was what uh you know

43:06 ↗ sort of the

43:07 ↗ the tab i desired at the december

43:10 ↗ meeting

43:11 ↗ updates throughout the process the

43:13 ↗ subgroup is really the ones who are

43:15 ↗ digging in to a lot of the details

43:19 ↗ so

43:20 ↗ within this phase two the subgroup has

43:22 ↗ has met

43:23 ↗ to really just dive into a lot of these

43:26 ↗ super specific questions uh that we're

43:28 ↗ addressing um

43:30 ↗ there's there's a litany of things uh

43:32 ↗ that

43:33 ↗ uh sort of talk to each other within the

43:35 ↗ code so really really digging into all

43:37 ↗ those um

43:40 ↗ my understanding is that

43:42 ↗ the final

43:43 ↗ sort of step

43:45 ↗ for the tab is a

43:47 ↗ review of the full draft so looking at

43:51 ↗ you know

43:52 ↗ the entire parking and circulation

43:55 ↗ uh sections

43:57 ↗ looking at how those talk to one another

43:59 ↗ and then

44:01 ↗ giving um

44:03 ↗ sort of the

44:04 ↗ the tabs approval

44:06 ↗ for future adoption in winter

44:10 ↗ thank you that's helpful and stephen has

44:12 ↗ a comment and i i think um

44:14 ↗ we could probably i think i was

44:16 ↗ envisioning that the subcommittee would

44:19 ↗ bring

44:20 ↗ back

44:21 ↗ results of having spent time and then

44:23 ↗ kind of report back and parse the the

44:25 ↗ kind of key issues that you know they

44:27 ↗ wrestled with and so forth and i'm not

44:28 ↗ trying to prescribe anything i just um

44:31 ↗ so i think that we could probably i

44:33 ↗ don't think we need to discuss any

44:34 ↗ further at this point although it looks

44:35 ↗ like stephen might have a comment but um

44:39 ↗ i'm willing to dig in a little bit more

44:41 ↗ about how to best utilize the tab so

44:43 ↗ that we don't suddenly have a very large

44:46 ↗ body of

44:47 ↗ work

44:48 ↗ that we then have one meeting to

44:50 ↗ you know look at and then provide our

44:52 ↗ our point of view or some kind of formal

44:54 ↗ recommendation so um

44:56 ↗ uh stephen go ahead

44:59 ↗ thank you cynthia and and thank you

45:01 ↗ everybody it's good to see everybody

45:03 ↗ to the long range planning manager i'm

45:04 ↗ working very closely with thomas on a

45:06 ↗ lot of this work

45:07 ↗ specifically on the public works street

45:09 ↗ standards update but also on title 18.

45:11 ↗ and just to to give a little background

45:13 ↗ information you know when we first

45:15 ↗ started the title 18 project we intended

45:17 ↗ to

45:18 ↗ move forward with

45:21 ↗ you know the intention of the project is

45:23 ↗ really consolidation and fixing the code

45:25 ↗ and really streamlining our process

45:28 ↗ if we found opportunities to make policy

45:30 ↗ changes then we would bring those policy

45:32 ↗ questions to the boards and commissions

45:34 ↗ as we kind of worked through the project

45:36 ↗ and that's what we kind of envisioned

45:38 ↗ with getting the tab involved in

45:40 ↗ starting the subgroup

45:42 ↗ our approach for everything particularly

45:44 ↗ with parking circulation has changed a

45:46 ↗ bit so what thomas will cover with the

45:49 ↗ next presentation with the blackberry

45:50 ↗ street standards is we're no longer

45:52 ↗ going to be

45:54 ↗ consolidating a circulation chapter in

45:57 ↗ title 18 but instead moving all that

45:59 ↗ existing code related to circulation to

46:02 ↗ the public works street standards and

46:03 ↗ that's what thomas will talk about and

46:05 ↗ then i think that'll include a lot more

46:07 ↗ robust discussions with the tab

46:09 ↗ than with specifically title 18. there's

46:12 ↗ still going to be the parking chapter in

46:14 ↗ title 18 that will want to bring some

46:16 ↗ policy questions but because we're

46:18 ↗ really not changing a lot of policy in

46:20 ↗ there and really just trying to clarify

46:22 ↗ what's in there there won't be as much

46:24 ↗ of a robust discussion with the tab on

46:27 ↗ that topic

46:29 ↗ and the subgroup

46:31 ↗ in terms of them reporting back out on a

46:34 ↗ lot of the discussions

46:35 ↗ that's going to happen after this

46:37 ↗ meeting we we wanted to give an

46:40 ↗ introduction to these two projects

46:43 ↗ before

46:44 ↗ we started talking a little bit more and

46:46 ↗ having the subgroup come back to talk

46:48 ↗ about because we haven't even released

46:50 ↗ the draft code yet for parking

46:52 ↗ and so

46:53 ↗ we wanted to at least

46:55 ↗ open the door for questions and and get

46:58 ↗ everybody to understanding kind of how

47:00 ↗ we're approaching a lot of this

47:02 ↗ before we now come back

47:04 ↗ with the draft the subgroup reporting

47:06 ↗ back and just kind of give everybody a

47:09 ↗ nice foundation of understanding of how

47:11 ↗ we're really trying to move forward with

47:14 ↗ the project especially as we changed our

47:16 ↗ approach to

47:17 ↗ how we're addressing circulation and

47:19 ↗ changes to the circulation policies

47:21 ↗ does that help answer your questions yes

47:23 ↗ it does i think any time yeah we always

47:26 ↗ get teased with like you know we think

47:28 ↗ we're just on the precipice of diving

47:30 ↗ deep into policy and um and i think it's

47:33 ↗ important to clarify like that that's

47:35 ↗ really helpful um and then um

47:38 ↗ that answered my question i'll go ahead

47:39 ↗ and move on to i see jerry has a comment

47:44 ↗ actually i don't anymore because steven

47:47 ↗ made me feel more comfortable with how

47:50 ↗ they're heading and that we will know

47:53 ↗ policy changes enough in advance to be

47:56 ↗ able to provide good comment so i don't

47:58 ↗ have anything else to say

48:00 ↗ thanks yeah no we we definitely

48:02 ↗ appreciate the the board's patience on

48:04 ↗ this you know originally we we intended

48:06 ↗ to come back to you earlier this year

48:08 ↗ with some more policy discussions but we

48:11 ↗ realized when we started really digging

48:12 ↗ into

48:13 ↗ the policies and the standards for

48:15 ↗ circulation

48:16 ↗ it all really belongs in the public

48:17 ↗ works street standards and so we really

48:19 ↗ needed to we had to kind of pivot a

48:21 ↗ little bit and reapproach this with a

48:23 ↗ kind of a different perspective of how

48:25 ↗ we really wanted to uh bring these

48:27 ↗ discussions to the uh to the board and

48:29 ↗ so thomas will kind of go over that in

48:30 ↗ the next

48:32 ↗ presentation thanks before moving on it

48:34 ↗ looks like julian's got a question

48:37 ↗ yeah related to the street standards and

48:39 ↗ the circulation process that's going to

48:41 ↗ be happening um

48:43 ↗ i want to acknowledge that public

48:45 ↗ comment via email that we got a few days

48:48 ↗ ago at this point

48:50 ↗ and

48:52 ↗ i would

48:53 ↗ like you guys to explain like

48:56 ↗ how much of that you know is

48:58 ↗ influenceable by this process just to

49:01 ↗ have that person understand where what

49:03 ↗ we're doing basically

49:05 ↗ yeah um so are you referring to the

49:08 ↗ email by i believe was edward

49:11 ↗ yeah

49:12 ↗ okay

49:13 ↗ yeah so those those topics are really uh

49:18 ↗ more within the realm of the public work

49:20 ↗ street standards um

49:22 ↗ it's it's very

49:24 ↗ uh

49:25 ↗ so it's a little bit confusing but i'll

49:27 ↗ try to like dive into it in the next

49:29 ↗ presentation a little bit

49:30 ↗ um

49:31 ↗ so maybe it would be easier to address

49:34 ↗ it after or like within the next

49:36 ↗ presentation and then we can sort of

49:38 ↗ talk about

49:39 ↗ uh how those pieces move in

49:41 ↗ does that work yeah let's do that okay

49:43 ↗ cool

49:44 ↗ thanks julian for reminding me uh

49:46 ↗ reminding us i do think it's important

49:48 ↗ to uh make sure that people who send

49:50 ↗ things by email that we acknowledge them

49:53 ↗ so that to call it to the board's

49:54 ↗ attention so that they can read it on

49:56 ↗ their own time thanks

49:59 ↗ absolutely so if there's not any further

50:01 ↗ questions i'll just keep rolling through

50:03 ↗ this

50:05 ↗ um

50:06 ↗ and so yeah this this next portion uh

50:09 ↗ is the public workstreet standard so

50:11 ↗ it's it's really a parallel project in a

50:13 ↗ lot of ways um

50:16 ↗ a lot of the the things that stephen had

50:18 ↗ mentioned so uh you know we'll be moving

50:20 ↗ a couple chapters of title 18 into

50:23 ↗ public works tree standards where they

50:24 ↗ belong so in this way we're really sort

50:27 ↗ of

50:28 ↗ taking these uh

50:30 ↗ these two projects like parallel to each

50:32 ↗ other

50:32 ↗ and with the same timeline

50:35 ↗ same finish line

50:38 ↗ so just to sort of provide a little bit

50:40 ↗ of a background on what the public work

50:42 ↗ street standards are and this will

50:43 ↗ probably address uh

50:46 ↗ julian's question um

50:48 ↗ so the public works three standards is

50:50 ↗ really providing guidance for the design

50:52 ↗ and construction of public streets and

50:55 ↗ other elements within the public

50:57 ↗ right-of-way um so a lot of the

50:59 ↗ a lot of the specifics that um that ed

51:02 ↗ was was mentioning are really

51:05 ↗ uh you know providing the the widths of

51:07 ↗ the road um

51:09 ↗ so the the engineering details for

51:12 ↗ uh

51:13 ↗ you know how the street is designed

51:15 ↗ these all fall within the public works

51:17 ↗ street standards uh whereas the other

51:19 ↗ one um is more related to land use um

51:22 ↗ and stuff like that

51:24 ↗ so

51:25 ↗ uh you know within the public retreat

51:27 ↗ standards we have

51:28 ↗ permitting requirements we have design

51:30 ↗ guidelines for um

51:32 ↗ you know how

51:34 ↗ what what angle a uh a curb should be at

51:38 ↗ or like the

51:40 ↗ how thick a gutter pan should be so

51:43 ↗ these are all just like super super

51:45 ↗ detailed things um that are based on

51:48 ↗ city policies codes as well as really

51:51 ↗ engineering best practices so they're

51:53 ↗ really within the realm of engineering

51:55 ↗ and they're

51:56 ↗ they're very specific things that um

51:58 ↗ they do evolve with time so it's

52:00 ↗ something that we need to look at um and

52:02 ↗ habitually update

52:07 ↗ and so

52:09 ↗ why are we updating the street standards

52:10 ↗ it's it's really because we want to

52:13 ↗ incorporate best practices um the last

52:15 ↗ time that we updated it was 2010 and you

52:18 ↗ know as you know

52:20 ↗ a lot has changed in issaquah there's

52:22 ↗ been immense growth

52:23 ↗ there's

52:24 ↗ there's been uh you know changes to the

52:27 ↗ way that our community

52:29 ↗ wants to move forward in the future so

52:31 ↗ we really want to make sure that

52:33 ↗ our regulations are aligned with the

52:35 ↗ goals and objectives that we're defining

52:37 ↗ in our adopted plans

52:39 ↗ so

52:40 ↗ other things we can do are you know make

52:42 ↗ things more organized make things more

52:44 ↗ efficient make things easier to use

52:47 ↗ one of the ways that we're going to do

52:48 ↗ that is by folding in

52:51 ↗ parts of title 18 to put them in a spot

52:53 ↗ where it makes sense so making it really

52:56 ↗ easy to

52:57 ↗ know what exactly you have to do to

53:00 ↗ develop

53:01 ↗ in the public right of way

53:05 ↗ yeah other things we're doing are just

53:07 ↗ really

53:09 ↗ potentially adding a couple sections to

53:11 ↗ the right of way just to make sure that

53:13 ↗ we're up to date with where we need to

53:14 ↗ be

53:15 ↗ and you know making sure that uh

53:19 ↗ we're really putting things where they

53:21 ↗ need to be so that

53:22 ↗ you know future developers or you know

53:24 ↗ if the city decides to

53:26 ↗ build something in the right of way

53:28 ↗ we're doing it in a way that's

53:29 ↗ consistent with how we should be doing

53:31 ↗ it

53:37 ↗ so one example of one of the best

53:39 ↗ practices that we'll be incorporating uh

53:41 ↗ through this update is the uh section

53:45 ↗ related to street typologies

53:47 ↗ and this is a little a little nerdy but

53:50 ↗ i'm about to get into some some

53:51 ↗ transportation

53:53 ↗ uh detail here but um the

53:57 ↗ the street typologies are really uh an

53:59 ↗ extension of the way that cities

54:02 ↗ are required to classify streets

54:04 ↗ uh using the federal design standards so

54:08 ↗ the federal design standards are called

54:09 ↗ the federal highway system of functional

54:12 ↗ classification

54:13 ↗ and so

54:14 ↗ this is just the way that the federal

54:16 ↗ government likes us to order our streets

54:18 ↗ so common examples of this are local

54:21 ↗ streets

54:22 ↗ you may have heard of like collector

54:24 ↗ streets or like arterial roadways

54:26 ↗ these are all

54:28 ↗ within the federal highway system of

54:30 ↗ functional functional classification

54:32 ↗ and so

54:33 ↗ one of the problems with this is it's

54:35 ↗ really sort of

54:38 ↗ it's not a great

54:40 ↗ design tool

54:41 ↗ when you're looking at the diversity of

54:43 ↗ situations within the city

54:46 ↗ these standards often don't consider the

54:48 ↗ local context of you know what issaquah

54:51 ↗ is and like the the different things

54:52 ↗ that happen

54:53 ↗ um so these local contexts are really

54:55 ↗ important and we really need to have a

54:58 ↗ more adequate design tool

55:00 ↗ um for the many different types of land

55:03 ↗ uses that

55:04 ↗ happen on a roadway that may be called

55:07 ↗ the same

55:09 ↗ so a lot of cities have taken the step

55:11 ↗ to

55:12 ↗ move towards the street typology

55:15 ↗ way of classifying streets

55:17 ↗ this really helps provide

55:19 ↗ better guidance

55:21 ↗ on uh

55:22 ↗ on the on the road and like defining it

55:24 ↗ in a way that makes more sense with the

55:26 ↗ local context

55:28 ↗ so the street typology system is really

55:31 ↗ um

55:32 ↗ it's combining more variables than the

55:36 ↗ functional classification system which

55:38 ↗ is really based on the ability to move

55:40 ↗ traffic and to provide access to

55:43 ↗ adjacent properties and so moving toward

55:45 ↗ a street typology

55:47 ↗ classification system we're really

55:49 ↗ integrating more details into the way

55:52 ↗ that we're defining our streets so

55:54 ↗ these details might include street types

55:56 ↗ how the street is used

55:59 ↗ built environment considerations

56:01 ↗ as well as

56:02 ↗ modal priorities so which

56:04 ↗ which types of vehicles are being

56:06 ↗ prioritized on this street so it really

56:09 ↗ dives into more details and when doing

56:11 ↗ that you can create

56:13 ↗ a release a a more specific

56:16 ↗ street type that really

56:18 ↗ can be

56:19 ↗ better

56:20 ↗ designed for the land uses in the area

56:23 ↗ so you can kind of see like the land use

56:25 ↗ the title 18 components are very similar

56:28 ↗ to

56:29 ↗ the public streets standards

56:32 ↗ but really they're

56:34 ↗ they're designing things

56:36 ↗ a little differently and

56:38 ↗ by

56:38 ↗ making sure that the right regulations

56:41 ↗ are in the right spot

56:42 ↗ it really helps uh keep things clearer

56:46 ↗ and make sure that there's no

56:50 ↗ there's no question as to like what i

56:51 ↗ should do in this situation so

56:54 ↗ uh public forex tree standards is really

56:56 ↗ um

56:57 ↗ more specific to uh

57:00 ↗ to the public right-of-way

57:02 ↗ so yeah in

57:04 ↗ in short

57:05 ↗ designing these

57:07 ↗ street typologies we're hoping that we

57:09 ↗ can

57:10 ↗ add more design flexibility and make

57:12 ↗ sure that the streets support

57:14 ↗ the vision for where we want to go in

57:16 ↗ the future

57:20 ↗ um so now that i have

57:22 ↗ bored you to death with those details

57:24 ↗ i'd love to just talk about like where

57:26 ↗ we're going with this project

57:27 ↗ this timeline is going to look very

57:29 ↗ similar to title 18.

57:31 ↗ we both have a finish line of around

57:33 ↗ winter 22-23

57:37 ↗ right now we're just starting it in

57:38 ↗ phase one in this phase we're going to

57:41 ↗ look at sections that need to be updated

57:44 ↗ we're also going to look at

57:46 ↗ where we can fold in

57:48 ↗ the the portions of title 18 where it

57:50 ↗ makes sense

57:52 ↗ we're also going to

57:53 ↗ to look at where new sections might need

57:55 ↗ to be added

57:56 ↗ and this would just be to implement the

57:59 ↗ city's adopted planning documents so

58:01 ↗ because it hasn't been updated since

58:03 ↗ 2010 we're envisioning that there's

58:05 ↗ probably going to be

58:07 ↗ updates that need to happen and these

58:09 ↗ would just be consistent with

58:10 ↗ engineering best practices

58:13 ↗ in phase 2 we're looking to revise the

58:16 ↗ standards with any engineering details

58:19 ↗ we're also going to share with the board

58:21 ↗ a running list

58:23 ↗ of all the high level changes that we're

58:25 ↗ considering we just want to make sure

58:27 ↗ that we're being transparent we're going

58:29 ↗ to show you what we're doing

58:31 ↗ we also just want to make sure to

58:33 ↗ explain

58:35 ↗ you know why these changes are happening

58:36 ↗ and how they're consistent with the

58:38 ↗ mobility master plan

58:42 ↗ some of the other updates we're doing

58:43 ↗ like i said are going to be super

58:44 ↗ technical in nature

58:46 ↗ and they're really going to rely on

58:48 ↗ engineering judgment of staff

58:50 ↗ and we'll let you know what we're doing

58:52 ↗ with those we want to be

58:53 ↗ you know very transparent with you all

58:55 ↗ but

58:56 ↗ they're really not going to be up for

58:57 ↗ discussion they're they're just

58:59 ↗ they're they're so technical in nature

59:01 ↗ that um we really need to rely on like

59:04 ↗ engineering best practices and the the

59:06 ↗ engineering staff that we have here

59:08 ↗ um

59:09 ↗ and i think where we were really looking

59:12 ↗ for tab involvement uh

59:14 ↗ what stephen had said previously was

59:16 ↗ we're really hoping to

59:19 ↗ talk to you about you know policy level

59:21 ↗ changes so

59:22 ↗ uh

59:24 ↗ we just want to be mindful of your time

59:25 ↗ it's we'd rather uh you know have you

59:28 ↗ focus on the things that

59:30 ↗ you really will have a lot of uh

59:33 ↗ a lot of uh good knowledge and like

59:35 ↗ power to uh to put behind this so

59:38 ↗ lots of examples that we could think of

59:41 ↗ but um just for instance um one of the

59:44 ↗ things that we're thinking of uh as

59:46 ↗ we're you know in phase one of this

59:47 ↗ we're sort of thinking about different

59:49 ↗ topics that might be included just to

59:51 ↗ kind of keep us

59:53 ↗ in lockstep with what other cities are

59:55 ↗ doing um

59:56 ↗ we might want to consider

59:58 ↗ a green bike lane policy so you know

1:00:01 ↗ green bike lanes those are the you know

1:00:03 ↗ the bike lanes that have a little bit of

1:00:05 ↗ green paint or sometimes other other

1:00:08 ↗ pavement markings

1:00:09 ↗ um and they really indicate you know

1:00:11 ↗ where cyclists are riding um

1:00:15 ↗ so the question might be you know do we

1:00:17 ↗ want to adopt one of these policies or

1:00:19 ↗ you know yes or no do we want that um

1:00:22 ↗ and then if we do like how in what

1:00:25 ↗ instances would we apply green markings

1:00:29 ↗ so

1:00:29 ↗ this is sort of a policy level question

1:00:32 ↗ that

1:00:33 ↗ you all might want to grapple with

1:00:35 ↗ green bike lanes can be great in some

1:00:37 ↗ instances and may be great not great in

1:00:39 ↗ others so we might want to just talk

1:00:41 ↗ those through and see

1:00:43 ↗ you know when it makes sense to apply

1:00:44 ↗ green paint

1:00:47 ↗ other examples could be loading zones so

1:00:50 ↗ loading zones in the public right of way

1:00:52 ↗ super important

1:00:53 ↗ you know freight loading is uh it's

1:00:56 ↗ really important you know especially

1:00:57 ↗ nowadays with everybody getting amazon

1:00:59 ↗ deliveries

1:01:01 ↗ we really want to make sure that we're

1:01:03 ↗ developing a policy if we want to go

1:01:05 ↗ that route you know we can develop a

1:01:06 ↗ policy

1:01:07 ↗ in the public right of way and

1:01:09 ↗ you know we can certainly grapple with

1:01:11 ↗ some of these issues that

1:01:13 ↗ may come through this so

1:01:15 ↗ uh those are just a couple examples and

1:01:17 ↗ you know topics may come through here

1:01:20 ↗ and it would be really great if we could

1:01:22 ↗ come back to the board and just

1:01:24 ↗ talk things through

1:01:25 ↗ talk about policy level decisions that

1:01:27 ↗ should be made and you know just get get

1:01:30 ↗ the board's feedback on that

1:01:32 ↗ so that's phase two

1:01:34 ↗ phase three will be further revising the

1:01:36 ↗ code

1:01:37 ↗ based on feedback that we've received

1:01:39 ↗ and then again we're looking to

1:01:42 ↗ adopt this

1:01:44 ↗ in a similar timeline with title 18 so

1:01:47 ↗ looking at winter 22-23

1:01:53 ↗ and with that i will just pause again

1:01:55 ↗ see if there's any further questions

1:01:57 ↗ that i can address um

1:02:00 ↗ otherwise i will

1:02:02 ↗ stop here

1:02:09 ↗ i have a question but i always like to

1:02:11 ↗ wait just a moment does anyone else have

1:02:13 ↗ a question first

1:02:17 ↗ all right um i just uh i thought the

1:02:19 ↗ memo was really useful to describe the

1:02:21 ↗ need for the typology but uh i'm just

1:02:24 ↗ curious if you could cite some examples

1:02:26 ↗ uh maybe from some other cities

1:02:28 ↗ of what that might look like like what

1:02:31 ↗ what an example

1:02:32 ↗ um

1:02:33 ↗ sure

1:02:34 ↗ yeah um i don't have specific city

1:02:36 ↗ examples on the top of my head i know

1:02:38 ↗ they exist i apologize i'm just drawing

1:02:41 ↗ a blank here um if other folks on the

1:02:43 ↗ call want to jump in that'd be cool uh

1:02:46 ↗ but yeah so uh you know one example

1:02:48 ↗ could be a slow street right so

1:02:51 ↗ um

1:02:52 ↗ you know during covid uh you know we've

1:02:56 ↗ we've realized that there's a need for

1:02:59 ↗ uh you know

1:03:00 ↗ slower traffic because maybe

1:03:02 ↗ maybe people are in the streets um you

1:03:05 ↗ know walking around and stuff so uh

1:03:07 ↗ areas that have you know slower traffic

1:03:10 ↗ could be

1:03:11 ↗ an example so you know context is

1:03:13 ↗ everything we want to make sure that

1:03:16 ↗ we're designing streets

1:03:17 ↗ and different typologies based on

1:03:19 ↗ uh

1:03:20 ↗ you know the the factors that i

1:03:21 ↗ mentioned so you know the the built

1:03:23 ↗ environment uh

1:03:25 ↗ the way that the street is meant is has

1:03:27 ↗ been designed so like um

1:03:30 ↗ like you wouldn't you wouldn't make big

1:03:32 ↗ changes on uh you know a huge street uh

1:03:35 ↗ that carries a lot of traffic um

1:03:38 ↗ so you wouldn't want to like you know

1:03:40 ↗ make you know huge sweeping changes

1:03:42 ↗ because that that would really mess

1:03:44 ↗ things up

1:03:45 ↗ but really it's it's about

1:03:49 ↗ taking a holistic approach at you know

1:03:51 ↗ the streets that we have

1:03:53 ↗ and

1:03:53 ↗ where we're going

1:03:55 ↗ you know for example

1:03:57 ↗ we're looking at in the future

1:04:00 ↗ you know as i'm sort of looking to my

1:04:02 ↗ next presentation on transit

1:04:04 ↗ you know we're going to have high

1:04:05 ↗ capacity transit coming so

1:04:08 ↗ how do we want to address that

1:04:10 ↗ is it uh prioritizing

1:04:12 ↗ [Music]

1:04:13 ↗ transit on the street um are we you know

1:04:16 ↗ there's there's various ways to uh

1:04:19 ↗ to redesign a road and it's it's about

1:04:22 ↗ talking about you know high level like

1:04:24 ↗ okay we want we want to prioritize

1:04:26 ↗ transit because we want to make sure

1:04:28 ↗ that

1:04:28 ↗ transit can get through here so maybe we

1:04:31 ↗ call this a you know transit supportive

1:04:33 ↗ street or um

1:04:36 ↗ you know maybe

1:04:37 ↗ maybe with this other street um there's

1:04:39 ↗ a lot of

1:04:41 ↗ cyclists that come through here so maybe

1:04:43 ↗ we call that something else so um

1:04:46 ↗ yeah

1:04:47 ↗ i hope that's what i've answered yeah

1:04:50 ↗ i did i like the modal priority i um i'm

1:04:53 ↗ hoping that there'll be something that

1:04:55 ↗ has to do with grade because it's inner

1:04:57 ↗ super interrelated to modal priorities

1:04:59 ↗ like obviously um

1:05:01 ↗ there's favored um routes

1:05:04 ↗ for cyclists because the you know the

1:05:07 ↗ grade in downtown you know the issaquah

1:05:10 ↗ you're either on the valley floor you're

1:05:11 ↗ up on the hillside and that's a super

1:05:14 ↗ i'm hoping that

1:05:15 ↗ that would be you know um

1:05:18 ↗ the slope uh would be included

1:05:21 ↗ because it's indirectly related to

1:05:23 ↗ modal priorities so something something

1:05:25 ↗ like that um yeah that is absolutely a

1:05:27 ↗ consideration um that is that's why we

1:05:30 ↗ have uh engineering staff to look at

1:05:32 ↗ that and um the folks that are looking

1:05:34 ↗ at it uh

1:05:36 ↗ will definitely take that into

1:05:37 ↗ consideration um yeah you're absolutely

1:05:39 ↗ right like you won't see

1:05:41 ↗ a lot of cyclists running up a super

1:05:44 ↗ steep hill it's just not something that

1:05:45 ↗ happens so and if they do they're

1:05:47 ↗ they're on their own because

1:05:49 ↗ yeah no i'm just kidding but um julian i

1:05:51 ↗ think i had a comment

1:05:53 ↗ or question yeah yeah i i wanted to go

1:05:56 ↗ along with what cynthia was saying uh

1:05:58 ↗ just now uh about

1:06:00 ↗ that

1:06:01 ↗ grade you know assessing it by and also

1:06:04 ↗ like speed differential i mean if you're

1:06:06 ↗ on a flat surface you might not need

1:06:08 ↗ as much protection uh against well i

1:06:11 ↗ mean of course you want protection but

1:06:13 ↗ as compared to relatively um

1:06:16 ↗ to an up slope there should be more

1:06:19 ↗ protection especially on the uphill side

1:06:21 ↗ of the road

1:06:22 ↗ um

1:06:23 ↗ so

1:06:25 ↗ definitely that i think that's pretty

1:06:26 ↗ important thing to include there that

1:06:28 ↗ you know speed differential

1:06:30 ↗ um and kind of assessing the relative

1:06:33 ↗ protection because i do think

1:06:35 ↗ you know

1:06:36 ↗ for rose as as the public commenter was

1:06:38 ↗ saying

1:06:39 ↗ you know having

1:06:41 ↗ having a four foot or five foot wide

1:06:45 ↗ bike run or whatever you know bike

1:06:47 ↗ gutter

1:06:48 ↗ um

1:06:49 ↗ it's not sufficient for most of our

1:06:50 ↗ roads

1:06:51 ↗ um

1:06:53 ↗ but yeah so there's that um could you go

1:06:55 ↗ more into why

1:06:57 ↗ um

1:06:58 ↗ we can't really

1:06:59 ↗ interfere with like larger driveways

1:07:02 ↗ uh in this in the city like gilman

1:07:04 ↗ boulevard for example or yeah i mean i i

1:07:07 ↗ may have misspoke there so i mean we're

1:07:09 ↗ uh with the typologies we really want to

1:07:11 ↗ look at you know uh we want to look at

1:07:13 ↗ every road and like see you know what

1:07:15 ↗ what makes sense for that situation um

1:07:18 ↗ i guess i was more talking about like

1:07:20 ↗ i you know the example that i had given

1:07:22 ↗ previously was like a slow street so

1:07:24 ↗ like

1:07:25 ↗ you wouldn't want to throw it through a

1:07:27 ↗ slow street uh

1:07:28 ↗ sort of typology um on a road that's

1:07:31 ↗ meant to carry like

1:07:33 ↗ folks throughout the valley so um

1:07:36 ↗ it just like it would it's just not the

1:07:38 ↗ way that the road was intended um and

1:07:41 ↗ it like wouldn't make sense in that

1:07:43 ↗ context given like the the land use um

1:07:46 ↗ implications so

1:07:47 ↗ um

1:07:48 ↗ there's so many like different uh

1:07:51 ↗ there's so many different situations and

1:07:53 ↗ that's the beauty of the typology versus

1:07:56 ↗ the functional classification system

1:07:58 ↗ if we have it in three buckets where

1:08:00 ↗ like you're a local street

1:08:02 ↗ you're a collector street or you're in

1:08:04 ↗ our arterial street um

1:08:07 ↗ there's just like so many different

1:08:10 ↗ situations where like

1:08:13 ↗ yeah like that makes sense in this

1:08:14 ↗ context like to design a street in like

1:08:17 ↗ three different ways but

1:08:19 ↗ what if there's you know something else

1:08:21 ↗ over here like what if there's a trail

1:08:22 ↗ adjacent to it like what do we do now

1:08:25 ↗ or like you know just like all these all

1:08:27 ↗ these like little situations um that may

1:08:30 ↗ have different design considerations um

1:08:34 ↗ or like yeah like like what was said

1:08:36 ↗ previously

1:08:37 ↗ about the grade like oh like what about

1:08:39 ↗ the grade here like

1:08:40 ↗ should we consider that um

1:08:42 ↗ so it's just having typologies really

1:08:45 ↗ can allow us to spread

1:08:48 ↗ uh different design

1:08:49 ↗ characteristics in many different ways

1:08:51 ↗ so rather than having only three ways to

1:08:54 ↗ build a street maybe we'll have like 12

1:08:56 ↗ or like you know however many it is so

1:08:59 ↗ there's just

1:09:00 ↗ um

1:09:02 ↗ different different ways yeah

1:09:04 ↗ you can be more specific with the

1:09:05 ↗ context

1:09:07 ↗ i would say it's you know the typology

1:09:09 ↗ is a good framework for redesigning

1:09:12 ↗ streets but i think there's an

1:09:13 ↗ interesting policy discussion to be had

1:09:16 ↗ especially when it comes to the you know

1:09:18 ↗ the wide

1:09:19 ↗ well we know it's arterials

1:09:21 ↗ um because there is some discussion

1:09:23 ↗ about you know

1:09:24 ↗ road diets and stuff like that um so

1:09:27 ↗ yeah there's some interesting

1:09:28 ↗ conversations to be had around there and

1:09:30 ↗ i think we should be exploring that more

1:09:33 ↗ but anyways yeah those are i mean uh in

1:09:36 ↗ terms of like you know road diets like

1:09:38 ↗ we're really

1:09:39 ↗ those sort of get to like the lane with

1:09:41 ↗ discussions and those are those are like

1:09:43 ↗ engineering

1:09:44 ↗ uh type questions that um

1:09:47 ↗ we'll sort of rely on the engineering

1:09:50 ↗ staff to uh to address but um definitely

1:09:53 ↗ agree like what there's there's a lot of

1:09:55 ↗ considerations here and um some of the

1:09:57 ↗ more policy level decisions we're really

1:09:59 ↗ going to rely on the the tab to really

1:10:01 ↗ dig into

1:10:02 ↗ um

1:10:03 ↗ they're certainly going to come up uh

1:10:05 ↗ we're just so early in this in this

1:10:07 ↗ project that um

1:10:09 ↗ we i don't i don't have a a good grip on

1:10:11 ↗ all the questions that we'll have but as

1:10:13 ↗ they come up we're certainly going to

1:10:15 ↗ bring him to the tab for discussion

1:10:19 ↗ thank you um i know steven has a comment

1:10:22 ↗ but um

1:10:23 ↗ before i

1:10:24 ↗ uh

1:10:25 ↗ call on you steven i just want um i do

1:10:27 ↗ want to

1:10:28 ↗ make sure we we do have a couple extra

1:10:30 ↗ minutes so if anybody has any other

1:10:32 ↗ comments you've heard a lot from julian

1:10:34 ↗ and me and um

1:10:35 ↗ i just want you guys to

1:10:37 ↗ feel like you know we're doing fine on

1:10:39 ↗ time and if you have anything to say

1:10:41 ↗ about this or anything you'd like to be

1:10:42 ↗ seeing in it

1:10:44 ↗ even though you've done a pretty good

1:10:45 ↗ job of helping us understand that we're

1:10:47 ↗ just getting introduced to this and

1:10:48 ↗ we'll get some of the meat later but i

1:10:50 ↗ still want to make sure i encourage

1:10:52 ↗ other people to

1:10:53 ↗ share any initial thoughts but so think

1:10:55 ↗ about that for a minute while i uh

1:10:57 ↗ calling stephen thank you

1:11:00 ↗ yeah i just want to add to what thomas

1:11:02 ↗ was saying you know one one thing to

1:11:04 ↗ kind of consider with all this the the

1:11:06 ↗ the primary intentions with updating the

1:11:09 ↗ public work street standards is one

1:11:11 ↗ where

1:11:12 ↗ we're

1:11:13 ↗ trying to move a lot of the circulation

1:11:15 ↗ policies from title 18

1:11:17 ↗ into

1:11:18 ↗ the public works street standards

1:11:19 ↗ because it's it's dictated as part of

1:11:21 ↗ the right-of-way and that's really where

1:11:23 ↗ we're trying to draw the line between

1:11:24 ↗ title 18 which is more of private

1:11:26 ↗ development

1:11:27 ↗ and public works street standards which

1:11:28 ↗ is going to be covering what's in the

1:11:29 ↗ right of way

1:11:30 ↗ the other component to keep in mind with

1:11:32 ↗ all this is because we're kind of

1:11:34 ↗ paralleling this process with title 18

1:11:37 ↗ we're wanting to make sure that language

1:11:39 ↗ is consistent between the two because

1:11:40 ↗ we're going to be adding a lot of

1:11:42 ↗ references to make sure that

1:11:44 ↗ they align with each other as part of

1:11:46 ↗ this process we're trying to also align

1:11:48 ↗ with mobility master plan and a lot of

1:11:50 ↗ the new policies that were introduced to

1:11:51 ↗ that we still have updated the street

1:11:54 ↗ standard since the mobility master plan

1:11:56 ↗ was adopted and just those two things by

1:11:58 ↗ themselves is a pretty large effort by

1:12:01 ↗ staff and the board so we're likely not

1:12:03 ↗ going to be able to address all the

1:12:04 ↗ issues that we're able to attach

1:12:06 ↗ but it is in staff's interest

1:12:09 ↗ to

1:12:10 ↗ continue a lot of these discussions

1:12:12 ↗ further after even this project is done

1:12:14 ↗ it's where we're

1:12:16 ↗ the intention of staff is to go through

1:12:18 ↗ an annual update of our street standards

1:12:20 ↗ and really review a lot of key issues we

1:12:24 ↗ see in other policies not just in what

1:12:26 ↗ we're updating but items that we're not

1:12:28 ↗ updating as part of this process or that

1:12:30 ↗ we're seeing in an ongoing projects and

1:12:32 ↗ so we'll continue a lot of these

1:12:34 ↗ sessions it's not going to end at in

1:12:36 ↗ december

1:12:38 ↗ we'll we'll have further discussions

1:12:40 ↗ with the board on any policies and

1:12:42 ↗ standards that we kind of see even in

1:12:44 ↗ this process or process after this

1:12:48 ↗ thanks a lot stephen erica

1:12:52 ↗ um uh first off can you hear me okay i'm

1:12:55 ↗ outdoors and there's like some road

1:12:56 ↗ noise

1:12:57 ↗ yeah of course um

1:12:59 ↗ uh

1:12:59 ↗ what with the i notice on the chart of

1:13:02 ↗ like the goals and outcomes um on the

1:13:04 ↗ second one the parking one one of the

1:13:07 ↗ outcomes was that similar neighborhoods

1:13:10 ↗ would have like i think a similar like

1:13:11 ↗ allotment of parking or the parking lot

1:13:13 ↗ look similar but what is the definition

1:13:14 ↗ of similar because like you know are

1:13:16 ↗ they the neighborhoods are close to each

1:13:18 ↗ other they have the same demographics

1:13:20 ↗ they're both in a school zone like what

1:13:21 ↗ does that mean

1:13:25 ↗ yeah really it really depends uh

1:13:27 ↗ i guess i'm not super familiar with uh

1:13:29 ↗ what you're describing um

1:13:32 ↗ but yeah i mean similar similar can be

1:13:34 ↗ land uses it can be

1:13:36 ↗ in a whole host of things do you mind

1:13:38 ↗ repeating like where which section you

1:13:40 ↗ saw

1:13:42 ↗ um it's the second one let me pull it up

1:13:46 ↗ here um

1:13:48 ↗ on so the attachment

1:13:51 ↗ um

1:13:52 ↗ it was attachment a

1:13:56 ↗ um and then

1:13:58 ↗ the

1:13:59 ↗ like the goals policy changes desired

1:14:01 ↗ outcomes like that chart it was the

1:14:03 ↗ second

1:14:04 ↗ uh

1:14:06 ↗ column

1:14:08 ↗ specifically the outcomes portion that

1:14:09 ↗ says uh

1:14:11 ↗ i think it's yeah the

1:14:13 ↗ letter b each neighborhood has the right

1:14:15 ↗ amount of parking and similar

1:14:16 ↗ neighborhoods have the same requirements

1:14:18 ↗ a night

1:14:19 ↗ that's just interesting to me because i

1:14:20 ↗ don't know what similar means

1:14:23 ↗ yeah so that attachment was i believe it

1:14:26 ↗ was drafted by

1:14:28 ↗ the

1:14:29 ↗ council committee stephen do you want to

1:14:32 ↗ talk more about that

1:14:34 ↗ yeah sure i can jump in on this um so

1:14:36 ↗ the attachment for the goals was

1:14:39 ↗ specific to title 18 and it was put

1:14:41 ↗ together by

1:14:42 ↗ a council committee that approved that

1:14:44 ↗ helped kind of lay out the work plan and

1:14:46 ↗ the and the

1:14:48 ↗ schedule and scope of the title 18

1:14:50 ↗ update and so specifically for parking

1:14:52 ↗ when it talked about the neighborhoods

1:14:54 ↗ and and

1:14:55 ↗ similarities it was specific to the

1:14:57 ↗ environment and uh land use so

1:15:01 ↗ we're not going to be putting the same

1:15:02 ↗ parking we're looking to make sure that

1:15:05 ↗ the parking regulations for central

1:15:06 ↗ iscon where we're really projecting a

1:15:08 ↗ lot of growth is not going to match up

1:15:11 ↗ with south cove neighborhood because

1:15:13 ↗ that those those are completely

1:15:16 ↗ not similar

1:15:18 ↗ neighborhoods and land uses and

1:15:19 ↗ environments and so we're really trying

1:15:21 ↗ to make sure that's aligned with how the

1:15:23 ↗ regulations are spelled out in the new

1:15:26 ↗ draft update

1:15:29 ↗ okay thank you

1:15:31 ↗ steven were you was that your comment

1:15:34 ↗ that you put in the box you were going

1:15:36 ↗ to jump in on that or did you have

1:15:37 ↗ something else

1:15:38 ↗ nope that was it thank you

1:15:41 ↗ yeah thanks for that clarification

1:15:45 ↗ uh

1:15:46 ↗ well i'm not seeing any does any last

1:15:49 ↗ last chance um anybody had any other

1:15:52 ↗ questions or comments i'm not seeing any

1:15:54 ↗ nodding um

1:15:55 ↗ it sounds like we are ready to roll into

1:15:58 ↗ was there anything further on that

1:16:00 ↗ thomas nope that's it yeah i'm happy to

1:16:03 ↗ move to the transit study now

1:16:07 ↗ okay great thank you for that

1:16:21 ↗ alrighty

1:16:25 ↗ so yeah next i will be talking about the

1:16:27 ↗ transit study um

1:16:30 ↗ and here's just the

1:16:33 ↗ the agenda here so i'll be first

1:16:35 ↗ covering the overview of the project

1:16:37 ↗ i'll then cover the timeline

1:16:40 ↗ uh what the board can expect

1:16:42 ↗ in terms of

1:16:43 ↗ their involvement and then i'll talk

1:16:45 ↗ about next steps

1:16:50 ↗ so as you as you all know you know is

1:16:52 ↗ qua is growing we've been growing

1:16:54 ↗ uh

1:16:55 ↗ a lot since 2010 the population has more

1:16:58 ↗ than doubled here and we're expecting

1:17:00 ↗ even more growth um so in advance of all

1:17:04 ↗ this anticipated growth uh cities really

1:17:07 ↗ looking at being proactive and taking a

1:17:10 ↗ proactive approach

1:17:12 ↗ to planning for high capacity transit

1:17:20 ↗ so yeah this this will just ensure that

1:17:22 ↗ um you know we're we're poised to uh

1:17:26 ↗ to take a leadership role when light

1:17:28 ↗ rail comes to our community in the

1:17:30 ↗ future

1:17:31 ↗ and so in short you know planning ahead

1:17:34 ↗ we can anticipate things we can make

1:17:36 ↗ sure that we're in a good position

1:17:39 ↗ by planning ahead we're going to ensure

1:17:41 ↗ that changes to our transportation

1:17:43 ↗ network are done in a way that balances

1:17:46 ↗ the needs and the the values of the

1:17:48 ↗ community

1:17:52 ↗ so what are these transit investments

1:17:54 ↗ that are coming

1:17:56 ↗ so you know as the board is already

1:17:58 ↗ aware of uh in 2023 and 24

1:18:02 ↗ king county metro and sound transit will

1:18:04 ↗ be implementing their east link

1:18:05 ↗ connections project

1:18:07 ↗ this is a coordinated regional trans

1:18:09 ↗ transit uh mobility project and

1:18:12 ↗ as it relates to issaquah it's going to

1:18:15 ↗ revise existing

1:18:16 ↗ and add new routes

1:18:19 ↗ the purpose of this is to improve the

1:18:21 ↗ speed reliability

1:18:23 ↗ the service frequencies and span of

1:18:25 ↗ service for bus routes in issaquah

1:18:29 ↗ in the longer term as we look down the

1:18:31 ↗ road

1:18:33 ↗ you know 2044 about

1:18:35 ↗ sound transit is going to

1:18:37 ↗ come to issaquah with the kirkland

1:18:39 ↗ issaquah link light rail project

1:18:42 ↗ and this again will bring new light

1:18:44 ↗ rails service to issaquah so

1:18:47 ↗ by planning ahead we can make sure that

1:18:50 ↗ we'll be ready for these um these

1:18:52 ↗ changes

1:18:56 ↗ and so here at the tab everything comes

1:18:58 ↗ back to the mobility master plan which

1:19:01 ↗ you all advise on so

1:19:03 ↗ you know as you know the mobility master

1:19:05 ↗ plan was adopted in march 2021

1:19:08 ↗ and it provides the policy framework and

1:19:10 ↗ implementation strategies

1:19:12 ↗ for the transportation element of the

1:19:14 ↗ comprehensive plan

1:19:15 ↗ so

1:19:16 ↗ everything's related

1:19:18 ↗ and you know policy 6.1 of the mobility

1:19:21 ↗ master plan calls for the development of

1:19:24 ↗ the

1:19:25 ↗ for the

1:19:26 ↗ sorry the development and adoption of a

1:19:29 ↗ transit study

1:19:31 ↗ in order to prepare the community for

1:19:33 ↗ high capacity transit

1:19:38 ↗ and so

1:19:40 ↗ now that we've sort of talked about what

1:19:41 ↗ we're doing

1:19:43 ↗ with this transit study

1:19:44 ↗ and why we're doing it

1:19:46 ↗ let's just talk about the project

1:19:48 ↗ timeline so

1:19:51 ↗ you know again we're just at the very

1:19:53 ↗ beginning of this phase we haven't

1:19:55 ↗ actually even started yet

1:19:56 ↗ so right now we're in the process of

1:19:58 ↗ finalizing our contract with the

1:20:00 ↗ selected consultant

1:20:03 ↗ we anticipate that this project will

1:20:05 ↗ likely kick off in august and after two

1:20:08 ↗ major phases

1:20:10 ↗ we will be completing it as part of the

1:20:12 ↗ comprehensive plan update in 2024

1:20:18 ↗ so in phase one um

1:20:21 ↗ there's going to be a lot of work done

1:20:22 ↗ so we're going to assess the existing

1:20:25 ↗ conditions of the current transit system

1:20:29 ↗ this will just you know look at

1:20:31 ↗ how transit is currently being provided

1:20:34 ↗ um

1:20:35 ↗ what are the challenges that are

1:20:36 ↗ occurring with the current transit

1:20:38 ↗ system

1:20:39 ↗ and by current i mean

1:20:41 ↗ uh the transit system as we know it with

1:20:44 ↗ east link

1:20:46 ↗ we're also going to be

1:20:48 ↗ developing a community engagement plan

1:20:51 ↗ we want to hear diverse voices from the

1:20:53 ↗ community

1:20:54 ↗ and we're certainly going to develop an

1:20:56 ↗ engagement plan

1:20:58 ↗ so that

1:20:59 ↗ we are reaching folks that are using

1:21:01 ↗ transit um folks that are the most

1:21:03 ↗ vulnerable users we really want to hear

1:21:06 ↗ from these folks

1:21:09 ↗ now we also want to

1:21:11 ↗ with this study in phase one we also

1:21:12 ↗ want to estimate future transit needs

1:21:15 ↗ and consider the steps that we can take

1:21:17 ↗ in order to meet our service objectives

1:21:21 ↗ we're also going to develop a

1:21:23 ↗ prioritized list of short-term and

1:21:25 ↗ long-term capital projects

1:21:27 ↗ with planning level cost estimates

1:21:31 ↗ and we want to develop draft goals and

1:21:33 ↗ policies under

1:21:36 ↗ that we can use to then update the

1:21:38 ↗ transit chapter of the mobility master

1:21:40 ↗ plan

1:21:42 ↗ so if that sounds like a lot it is but

1:21:44 ↗ there's more

1:21:45 ↗ in phase 2

1:21:47 ↗ we're also going to

1:21:48 ↗ develop a link light rail planning

1:21:50 ↗ document that's going to guide the

1:21:52 ↗ city's light rail planning efforts

1:21:55 ↗ this may also include

1:21:57 ↗ potential station locations

1:22:00 ↗ that link may be

1:22:02 ↗ taking place in the in the city

1:22:05 ↗ we will also develop transit performance

1:22:07 ↗ metrics

1:22:09 ↗ so that we can measure

1:22:11 ↗ you know how things are going we want to

1:22:13 ↗ have tangible measurements

1:22:15 ↗ that the city can actually

1:22:17 ↗ use and effect change on

1:22:20 ↗ as and then like the third and last

1:22:22 ↗ thing

1:22:23 ↗ is we're going to develop strategies for

1:22:25 ↗ improving transit access access for

1:22:28 ↗ underserved

1:22:29 ↗ populations

1:22:32 ↗ and again

1:22:34 ↗ this all sort of culminates in the

1:22:35 ↗ mobility master plan update we

1:22:38 ↗ will be updating this uh you know

1:22:41 ↗ in the future as well but this is just

1:22:43 ↗ specific to the transit chapter

1:22:45 ↗ of the mobility master plan

1:22:48 ↗ this will then be used to update the

1:22:50 ↗ comprehensive plan in 2024

1:22:56 ↗ so i'd now like to talk about how you

1:22:59 ↗ all will be involved

1:23:01 ↗ so this project

1:23:04 ↗ some of the things that we're planning

1:23:05 ↗ on doing is providing regular feedback

1:23:08 ↗ or sorry regular updates as the project

1:23:11 ↗ progresses

1:23:13 ↗ um in addition uh we're really

1:23:15 ↗ uh hoping that we can get your feedback

1:23:17 ↗ on

1:23:19 ↗ a lot of the project milestones as they

1:23:21 ↗ occur

1:23:23 ↗ there's a list here on this on this

1:23:26 ↗ on this

1:23:27 ↗ sheet

1:23:28 ↗ we're really hoping to get your feedback

1:23:30 ↗ on the transit needs assessment

1:23:33 ↗ so this is really talking about

1:23:36 ↗ you know how transit is provided and

1:23:39 ↗ you know what are what are the the needs

1:23:41 ↗ that we have based on

1:23:43 ↗ based on the current uh situation

1:23:47 ↗ we also want your feedback on a

1:23:49 ↗ transit capital improvement project list

1:23:52 ↗ so this is going to be a list of

1:23:54 ↗ improvements that are

1:23:56 ↗ going to be on our transportation

1:24:00 ↗ improvement uh program

1:24:02 ↗ um

1:24:04 ↗ this is also you know as a side note

1:24:06 ↗ this is part of the the capital

1:24:07 ↗ improvement project so it's just that

1:24:09 ↗ the transportation

1:24:10 ↗ related projects that the city

1:24:14 ↗ will be implementing uh over the next

1:24:16 ↗ six years so we really want your uh your

1:24:19 ↗ input on uh the projects that will be

1:24:21 ↗ part of this

1:24:22 ↗ um

1:24:23 ↗ you know we are in the early stages of

1:24:25 ↗ this but you know some of the the

1:24:27 ↗ projects may include

1:24:30 ↗ you know just like access improvements

1:24:32 ↗ so how can we get folks to to transit

1:24:35 ↗ and like what are what are the ways that

1:24:37 ↗ we can

1:24:38 ↗ make sure that the transit system is

1:24:42 ↗ is efficient but is also balancing the

1:24:44 ↗ needs of our community

1:24:47 ↗ we're also going to be updating the

1:24:48 ↗ transit chapter of the mobility master

1:24:50 ↗ plan

1:24:51 ↗ uh we'll really want your feedback on

1:24:53 ↗ that um you all advise on the mobility

1:24:55 ↗ master plan so that should

1:24:57 ↗ uh that makes sense um

1:25:00 ↗ and lastly there's also the link light

1:25:02 ↗ rail planning document so this document

1:25:04 ↗ is going to

1:25:05 ↗ sort of create a strategy like a

1:25:08 ↗ playbook for when link comes to the

1:25:10 ↗ community in 2044. so we'll want your

1:25:13 ↗ feedback on that we want to make sure

1:25:15 ↗ that we're poised and ready for when

1:25:17 ↗ that comes and you all will have some

1:25:19 ↗ really good feedback to provide for this

1:25:23 ↗ this feedback could be provided either

1:25:25 ↗ through a um the full board or through

1:25:27 ↗ subgroups

1:25:29 ↗ and um

1:25:30 ↗ you know as as we move this forward uh

1:25:34 ↗ with the transit study

1:25:36 ↗ we're going to want your

1:25:38 ↗ we're going to want to provide you an

1:25:40 ↗ opportunity to provide feedback for the

1:25:42 ↗ the final draft

1:25:44 ↗ as it goes through for council approval

1:25:51 ↗ and with that i'll just stop here and

1:25:53 ↗ answer any questions you might have

1:26:12 ↗ why don't we start with christy um and

1:26:14 ↗ then come back to julian thanks

1:26:16 ↗ great

1:26:18 ↗ thank you

1:26:19 ↗ great presentation and first of all i am

1:26:22 ↗ super super excited to see this work

1:26:24 ↗ happening

1:26:26 ↗ i think it's been a long time in coming

1:26:27 ↗ for our community and really going to

1:26:29 ↗ help us inform as a community how we

1:26:32 ↗ move forward around transit but also

1:26:35 ↗ hopefully in making the case for

1:26:37 ↗ additional transit support

1:26:40 ↗ i wanted to um

1:26:43 ↗ make a

1:26:44 ↗ just a comment and then i have some

1:26:46 ↗ questions on the the project itself in

1:26:50 ↗ terms of the existing conditions

1:26:53 ↗ sort of the analysis

1:26:55 ↗ um

1:26:56 ↗ i'm curious if the the following items

1:27:00 ↗ will be included in that just kind of as

1:27:02 ↗ a baseline

1:27:04 ↗ those are the updated concurrency ran

1:27:07 ↗ the wash dot front street interchange

1:27:09 ↗ findings

1:27:11 ↗ because i think there's some

1:27:12 ↗ opportunities to build on that

1:27:14 ↗ the i-90 corridor study

1:27:17 ↗ and then

1:27:18 ↗ what the anticipated outcome from the

1:27:20 ↗ shoulder hardening project is in our

1:27:22 ↗ community

1:27:24 ↗ and then looking at joint data if

1:27:26 ↗ possible from the city of sammamish

1:27:29 ↗ because i think those are all pressures

1:27:31 ↗ that get placed on our

1:27:34 ↗ ability to move about the region but

1:27:37 ↗ also on local circulation

1:27:41 ↗ and then on the the community engagement

1:27:45 ↗ which i think is going to be so critical

1:27:48 ↗ just from

1:27:50 ↗ my own experience um

1:27:53 ↗ in in other projects um

1:27:56 ↗ one of the things that i think will be

1:27:58 ↗ important is to really go to the source

1:28:00 ↗ because i think a lot of the population

1:28:02 ↗ that utilizes

1:28:04 ↗ public transit you know comes from

1:28:07 ↗ outside of our community but also aren't

1:28:10 ↗ comfortable

1:28:11 ↗ or

1:28:13 ↗ used to making public comments so you

1:28:16 ↗ know as example

1:28:18 ↗ rally properties we have two hotels we

1:28:20 ↗ have a lot of folks who

1:28:22 ↗ could really benefit from using transit

1:28:25 ↗ but but they don't utilize it now so

1:28:27 ↗ maybe

1:28:28 ↗ working with human resources to

1:28:32 ↗ reach out in a safe way i think would

1:28:34 ↗ hopefully get some meaningful data

1:28:38 ↗ and then

1:28:39 ↗ also

1:28:42 ↗ leaning on sort of community partners i

1:28:44 ↗ think will be helpful the vision

1:28:46 ↗ partners here in in the city if getting

1:28:49 ↗ them to help reach out to their

1:28:51 ↗ membership

1:28:52 ↗ and businesses

1:28:54 ↗ i think will be really helpful

1:28:56 ↗ in getting right to the real data that

1:28:59 ↗ you need because otherwise i'm afraid

1:29:01 ↗ you know you're gonna get a one percent

1:29:03 ↗ or two percent input and not really the

1:29:05 ↗ full picture

1:29:07 ↗ so but super exciting thank you for

1:29:10 ↗ doing this work

1:29:12 ↗ absolutely i'm i am very excited about

1:29:14 ↗ this too um yeah we're we're very

1:29:16 ↗ committed to community engagement um

1:29:20 ↗ uh as as was mentioned in the memo so

1:29:22 ↗ that you know we're gonna have a project

1:29:23 ↗ website

1:29:24 ↗ we're also going to have you know open

1:29:26 ↗ house events

1:29:27 ↗ um we're really interested in yeah

1:29:29 ↗ getting a lot of diverse feedback so

1:29:31 ↗ we're going to think outside the box

1:29:33 ↗ here to make sure that we're getting

1:29:34 ↗ those voices in the room

1:29:39 ↗ go ahead julian

1:29:41 ↗ thanks christy

1:29:43 ↗ yeah um

1:29:45 ↗ so

1:29:46 ↗ i kinda wanna go along the timeline here

1:29:49 ↗ um

1:29:50 ↗ in terms of the comp plan

1:29:52 ↗ when the city will be working we'll

1:29:54 ↗ start working on that comp plan in 2023

1:29:58 ↗ and so i mean

1:30:00 ↗ based on the timelines i've seen around

1:30:02 ↗ the area i'm not sure when isoqua is

1:30:04 ↗ going to be

1:30:04 ↗ starting their work on it but

1:30:07 ↗ how will that fit in with

1:30:10 ↗ what kind of inputs that

1:30:12 ↗ this study is going to be doing um

1:30:15 ↗ because

1:30:17 ↗ it's important to get those principles

1:30:18 ↗ into the process first and like early on

1:30:22 ↗ all right then just throw it into the

1:30:23 ↗ last year or so so i'm just wondering

1:30:27 ↗ what the time yeah yeah so yeah the comp

1:30:29 ↗ plan is updated um

1:30:32 ↗ i believe

1:30:33 ↗ is it every two years um

1:30:35 ↗ we'll be you know

1:30:38 ↗ as the mobility master plan uh you know

1:30:41 ↗ all these feed into each other right so

1:30:43 ↗ um

1:30:44 ↗ the transit

1:30:45 ↗ transit study will feed into the

1:30:47 ↗ mobility master plan which feeds in the

1:30:48 ↗ comp plan so um

1:30:51 ↗ this

1:30:53 ↗ i believe that the timeline uh

1:30:55 ↗ is a little

1:30:57 ↗ funny like we're not we're not we

1:30:59 ↗ haven't secured

1:31:01 ↗ a

1:31:02 ↗ a final date for the comp plan currently

1:31:06 ↗ um

1:31:07 ↗ i wonder if maybe stephen uh can address

1:31:09 ↗ the comp plan uh timeline question

1:31:15 ↗ thanks thomas yeah to answer your

1:31:17 ↗ question julian um the transit study

1:31:20 ↗ will be incorporated as part of the comp

1:31:21 ↗ planning discussions so similar to how

1:31:24 ↗ when you do a periodic update for

1:31:26 ↗ any comprehensive plan you talk about

1:31:27 ↗ the translation element which is

1:31:29 ↗ required by the state to have

1:31:31 ↗ in the comprehensive plan

1:31:33 ↗ because our translation element was

1:31:35 ↗ updated when we adopted the mobility

1:31:37 ↗ master plan there really isn't a lot

1:31:39 ↗ more to update

1:31:41 ↗ so with the transit study that'll

1:31:43 ↗ essentially

1:31:44 ↗ substitute those conversations instead

1:31:46 ↗ of speaking to the whole translation

1:31:48 ↗ element we're speaking specifically to

1:31:50 ↗ the transit

1:31:51 ↗ uh transit components of the translation

1:31:53 ↗ element within the conference plan so

1:31:56 ↗ it'll be directly aligned with a lot of

1:31:58 ↗ the policies that are in the trans state

1:31:59 ↗ in the comprehensive plan when we're

1:32:01 ↗ talking about land use when we talk

1:32:02 ↗ about housing and growth for the city um

1:32:06 ↗ we'll be speaking specifically about the

1:32:09 ↗ transit as part of the transit study

1:32:11 ↗ paralleling that process for the

1:32:12 ↗ comprehensive plan and

1:32:14 ↗ you're correct that we'll be starting

1:32:15 ↗ that work in 2023 and ending in 2024.

1:32:21 ↗ okay i think that informed the answer

1:32:24 ↗ there

1:32:24 ↗ um existing conditions is that just like

1:32:27 ↗ the snapshot we have right now because

1:32:30 ↗ as it stands right now we really just

1:32:32 ↗ have

1:32:33 ↗ minimal

1:32:34 ↗ uh

1:32:35 ↗ in terms of just 30 minute headways for

1:32:37 ↗ 554

1:32:39 ↗ uh 269 208 2 and we only have 200 now

1:32:43 ↗ um

1:32:45 ↗ and so at 216 sometimes as well

1:32:48 ↗ i mean 218 um

1:32:50 ↗ so is that just like the general

1:32:54 ↗ just a snapshot right now or is it just

1:32:55 ↗ like

1:32:57 ↗ or all of just the capital facilities

1:33:00 ↗ that we have right now

1:33:01 ↗ yeah it's going to be all that so what

1:33:03 ↗ was mentioned previously it'll be

1:33:05 ↗ incorporating

1:33:06 ↗ you know

1:33:07 ↗ policy documents that we have in place

1:33:09 ↗ um

1:33:10 ↗ we're gonna look at

1:33:11 ↗ you know the intersection

1:33:14 ↗ uh you know how intersection how

1:33:16 ↗ intersections

1:33:18 ↗ are currently operating uh with transit

1:33:22 ↗ it's really it's going to be a very

1:33:23 ↗ holistic approach like looking at

1:33:27 ↗ so many different factors involved so

1:33:31 ↗ yeah i mean it's going to be like

1:33:32 ↗ long-range planning documents through

1:33:35 ↗ king county metro and sound transit

1:33:38 ↗ it's going to be

1:33:39 ↗ working you know like

1:33:41 ↗ how

1:33:42 ↗ how and where folks are moving

1:33:44 ↗ throughout the community

1:33:47 ↗ where people are working where people

1:33:48 ↗ are living like how that how those ebbs

1:33:51 ↗ and flows

1:33:52 ↗ in terms of travel are occurring so

1:33:55 ↗ looking at all those factors really

1:33:57 ↗ getting a holistic view on

1:33:59 ↗ how things are going right now

1:34:01 ↗ so that we have a pulse

1:34:03 ↗ and have it you know baseline for

1:34:05 ↗ comparing where we want to go um

1:34:08 ↗ we're also as we move forward uh with

1:34:10 ↗ like forecasting um

1:34:13 ↗ a lot of the existing conditions are

1:34:15 ↗ used to project

1:34:16 ↗ uh you know what what will happen in the

1:34:19 ↗ future um

1:34:20 ↗ again their estimates but it's

1:34:22 ↗ it's it's how we as

1:34:25 ↗ transportation engineers and

1:34:26 ↗ transportation planners we're we're

1:34:28 ↗ looking at the future

1:34:29 ↗ to sort of

1:34:31 ↗ help guide policy and guide

1:34:34 ↗ decision making for something that you

1:34:36 ↗ know is

1:34:38 ↗ 22 years away so

1:34:40 ↗ we're really just setting ourselves up

1:34:42 ↗ to make sure that we can make informed

1:34:44 ↗ decisions as we all

1:34:46 ↗ move forward with with transit that's

1:34:48 ↗ coming to the community

1:34:50 ↗ okay um

1:34:52 ↗ one more question or

1:34:54 ↗ two more

1:34:55 ↗ does anyone else have any questions

1:34:57 ↗ before i launch into my other okay

1:35:01 ↗ but go ahead um

1:35:03 ↗ i wanted to come back to the question

1:35:05 ↗ about board involvement but i want to

1:35:07 ↗ let you finish first

1:35:09 ↗ okay um thanks

1:35:11 ↗ um

1:35:12 ↗ for measurables for transit you kind of

1:35:14 ↗ spoke on that a little bit um

1:35:16 ↗ are those going to be like

1:35:18 ↗ kind of um

1:35:20 ↗ what lens are you going to be looking at

1:35:21 ↗ those through just like public benefit

1:35:24 ↗ or

1:35:25 ↗ cost and

1:35:26 ↗ uh cost versus benefit or some or or

1:35:30 ↗ what kind of measurables are you doing

1:35:32 ↗ for that yeah so we're we're looking at

1:35:34 ↗ the it's called the the transit level of

1:35:37 ↗ service um

1:35:39 ↗ and that encapsulates sort of the

1:35:42 ↗ the way that

1:35:43 ↗ transit is

1:35:46 ↗ is used by users

1:35:49 ↗ there's there's a variety of um of

1:35:52 ↗ service metrics

1:35:53 ↗ but we're going to want to focus on

1:35:55 ↗ things that the city has

1:35:58 ↗ you know direct influence over um

1:36:01 ↗ there's

1:36:02 ↗ you know because transit is provided by

1:36:04 ↗ two different agencies here in the in

1:36:07 ↗ the city um

1:36:09 ↗ you know we we can only do so much as as

1:36:11 ↗ a

1:36:12 ↗ as a city who is not providing our own

1:36:15 ↗ transit so

1:36:16 ↗ we we want to have things that we can

1:36:19 ↗ directly influence um or else it's sort

1:36:22 ↗ of just like

1:36:23 ↗ this thing that we have that we would

1:36:26 ↗ like to have but maybe we have no

1:36:28 ↗ control over so

1:36:29 ↗ um

1:36:30 ↗ it's to be determined uh we we haven't

1:36:33 ↗ started this project yet but we're

1:36:35 ↗ really looking forward to

1:36:37 ↗ um you know working with our consultant

1:36:39 ↗ to

1:36:40 ↗ make sure that

1:36:41 ↗ uh

1:36:42 ↗ the different metrics that we have are

1:36:44 ↗ things that we can measure that we can

1:36:46 ↗ say like oh we're doing a good job on

1:36:47 ↗ this or like oh we're not

1:36:50 ↗ and things that you know we can actually

1:36:51 ↗ effect change onto

1:36:54 ↗ okay

1:36:55 ↗ um okay final one uh with the light rail

1:36:57 ↗ station planning uh that's mostly gonna

1:36:59 ↗ be because sound transit will be

1:37:02 ↗ you know the predominant

1:37:04 ↗ uh force of you know choosing where

1:37:06 ↗ that's gonna be are you gonna be you

1:37:08 ↗ know work

1:37:09 ↗ getting together with sound transit and

1:37:12 ↗ um

1:37:13 ↗ you know thinking about that kind of

1:37:15 ↗ idea or is it mostly gonna be a city

1:37:17 ↗ driven effort uh at this point yeah

1:37:20 ↗ that's a great question um we're

1:37:22 ↗ certainly going to involve

1:37:24 ↗ all the transit agencies um

1:37:27 ↗ we

1:37:29 ↗ currently the the goal is to have

1:37:32 ↗ staff members from uh

1:37:35 ↗ different agencies who would you know

1:37:36 ↗ pinch potentially uh

1:37:39 ↗ be involved in

1:37:40 ↗ in light rail um so

1:37:43 ↗ we're we're gonna have uh king county

1:37:46 ↗ metro and sound transit uh providing

1:37:49 ↗ feedback as this project develops so

1:37:52 ↗ they're gonna they're gonna know what

1:37:53 ↗ we're doing and they're gonna

1:37:56 ↗ you know make sure that that we're uh

1:37:58 ↗ being realistic with our approach

1:38:00 ↗ based on like how they deliver service

1:38:02 ↗ so

1:38:04 ↗ they will be they will be integral to

1:38:06 ↗ this whole process

1:38:08 ↗ right it's just uh yeah i

1:38:11 ↗ don't really want us to become another

1:38:14 ↗ mercer island uh in terms of

1:38:16 ↗ how they've been approaching their light

1:38:18 ↗ rail station so

1:38:20 ↗ we have to be we should be trying to be

1:38:22 ↗ cooperative about stuff and uh

1:38:25 ↗ come to good understandings because what

1:38:27 ↗ merced has been doing with with that is

1:38:29 ↗ just not

1:38:30 ↗ great

1:38:32 ↗ yeah yeah um sound transit will will be

1:38:35 ↗ there uh

1:38:36 ↗ through the entire uh

1:38:38 ↗ we're proposing about 23 months process

1:38:42 ↗ so but we'll be there they'll be they'll

1:38:44 ↗ be providing feedback and

1:38:46 ↗ um you know the goal is to make sure

1:38:48 ↗ that we're in a position where um

1:38:51 ↗ the the final output is something that

1:38:53 ↗ our community is you know satisfied with

1:38:55 ↗ it it meets

1:38:57 ↗ the objectives of our planning

1:38:59 ↗ documents and um

1:39:01 ↗ we're also going to get

1:39:02 ↗ high capacity transit so it should be

1:39:05 ↗ should be a win-win and we're hoping to

1:39:09 ↗ you know incorporate

1:39:11 ↗ our community's vision so that it's not

1:39:13 ↗ someone else's vision for our community

1:39:19 ↗ thanks julian um i wanted to take us

1:39:22 ↗ back to the question that you asked

1:39:23 ↗ about board involvement but before i do

1:39:24 ↗ that did anyone else have anything that

1:39:26 ↗ you wanted to comment anything you feel

1:39:28 ↗ like you need to see in the transit

1:39:29 ↗ study or any questions about this

1:39:35 ↗ all right um i was just going to propose

1:39:38 ↗ that so i'm looking at the memo again

1:39:40 ↗ and it's there's several options

1:39:42 ↗ and um

1:39:45 ↗ what i was thinking that we should

1:39:46 ↗ probably do and then i'd love to kind of

1:39:48 ↗ maybe just see a show of hands or you

1:39:50 ↗ know people want to comment on whether

1:39:51 ↗ they agree with this approach but the

1:39:53 ↗ idea that um there's input and then i

1:39:56 ↗ actually almost think now that i know

1:39:57 ↗ more about the transit study i almost

1:39:59 ↗ feel like it's should we call this

1:40:00 ↗ transit study and

1:40:02 ↗ recommendation because it's there

1:40:03 ↗ there's not just it's not just reviewing

1:40:06 ↗ um and it's not just information

1:40:09 ↗ gathering there's obviously uh planning

1:40:12 ↗ and so what i would propose

1:40:15 ↗ is that the

1:40:17 ↗ we

1:40:18 ↗ hear about the needs assessment the

1:40:21 ↗ community involvement

1:40:23 ↗ and you just report back and update us

1:40:25 ↗ but then it one of the second option

1:40:27 ↗ says we review drafts of

1:40:30 ↗ and i don't think we necessarily need to

1:40:31 ↗ see drafts of the needs assessment like

1:40:33 ↗ those are those are

1:40:35 ↗ inputs those are things that

1:40:37 ↗ that we're learning but then i think

1:40:38 ↗ when it gets to project list and

1:40:40 ↗ mobility master plan update and the

1:40:42 ↗ planning documents i think those are

1:40:45 ↗ ones that we should probably be

1:40:47 ↗ reviewing drafts of those and if such

1:40:50 ↗ time as we discover like if we get into

1:40:52 ↗ that and it seems

1:40:54 ↗ a little deeper and then we maybe then

1:40:56 ↗ we go to option what's the third bullet

1:40:58 ↗ here like a subcommittee but i'd like to

1:41:00 ↗ see us starting off where we're just

1:41:02 ↗ being informed as you're collecting

1:41:04 ↗ information and finding out

1:41:07 ↗ um you know you're getting input from

1:41:09 ↗ both the community and then these

1:41:10 ↗ analyses and then when it comes to

1:41:12 ↗ actually starting to put those into a

1:41:14 ↗ plan like a project list in the mmp

1:41:16 ↗ update that's when i think that we

1:41:18 ↗ should be reviewing drafts and actively

1:41:20 ↗ engaging

1:41:22 ↗ um

1:41:23 ↗ so

1:41:23 ↗ i'm not sure

1:41:25 ↗ um

1:41:26 ↗ we could flip back to the full board if

1:41:29 ↗ we're

1:41:29 ↗ we don't need to look at this

1:41:30 ↗ presentation and just kind of like see

1:41:32 ↗ if people are

1:41:34 ↗ in agreement because you can only see

1:41:35 ↗ just so many people on the screen when

1:41:37 ↗ you've got your screen up

1:41:40 ↗ um

1:41:41 ↗ sorry i'm scared

1:41:43 ↗ okay cool i got it yeah so um

1:41:47 ↗ i see jerry i had a comment

1:41:50 ↗ yes sir i i

1:41:52 ↗ see where you're

1:41:53 ↗ coming from

1:41:54 ↗ but um

1:41:56 ↗ cynthia but what i was thinking was it

1:41:59 ↗ would be really good

1:42:01 ↗ if we even had a chance to review

1:42:05 ↗ um what

1:42:07 ↗ this study is doing as far as public

1:42:10 ↗ comment and public outreach is because

1:42:12 ↗ we want to make sure

1:42:14 ↗ that they're asking

1:42:16 ↗ the right questions

1:42:19 ↗ for the public comment and i believe

1:42:21 ↗ that we could provide input on that also

1:42:25 ↗ from our perspective so i wouldn't want

1:42:27 ↗ to just review

1:42:30 ↗ that outreach from public comment

1:42:32 ↗ because i see that as really

1:42:34 ↗ very important

1:42:36 ↗ in a way because

1:42:38 ↗ there might be

1:42:39 ↗ ideas that we might have or questions we

1:42:42 ↗ might have about whether

1:42:44 ↗ you know when would you consider using

1:42:47 ↗ transit

1:42:48 ↗ so and

1:42:49 ↗ transit has really changed significantly

1:42:52 ↗ our service of course because less

1:42:55 ↗ people are using transit has been

1:42:57 ↗ reduced since coven and

1:43:00 ↗ and so

1:43:02 ↗ um to incr to see

1:43:04 ↗ when people would use the transit and to

1:43:06 ↗ give them examples would be something

1:43:08 ↗ that i believe we could provide input on

1:43:12 ↗ within this this board

1:43:14 ↗ so

1:43:15 ↗ yeah i'd be game for that uh

1:43:19 ↗ so are people pretty much supportive of

1:43:22 ↗ what jerry and i are kind of outlining

1:43:24 ↗ does that sound good to stuff

1:43:27 ↗ i'm seeing lots of nods i'm not seeing

1:43:28 ↗ anyone

1:43:30 ↗ have anything to add

1:43:32 ↗ so just to clarify it so

1:43:34 ↗ [Music]

1:43:36 ↗ the board would be interested in

1:43:37 ↗ providing feedback on the

1:43:40 ↗ engagement strategy

1:43:42 ↗ as as we're

1:43:44 ↗ moving forward through this process

1:43:49 ↗ and then as we get into the project list

1:43:52 ↗ we'd want to also be providing feedback

1:43:55 ↗ um

1:43:57 ↗ to when you get to those

1:43:59 ↗ those portions of it i mean i i can even

1:44:01 ↗ argue that i bet there's people on the

1:44:02 ↗ sport that would be interested in

1:44:04 ↗ even defining the study questions i mean

1:44:07 ↗ we have we have a lot of appetite but we

1:44:09 ↗ only meet once a month for two hours and

1:44:11 ↗ so i think we have to be judicious and

1:44:14 ↗ um

1:44:15 ↗ you know keep our work plan

1:44:17 ↗ i don't like to be a mile wide and an

1:44:19 ↗ inch deep so i mean

1:44:22 ↗ i think we have to resist the temptation

1:44:24 ↗ to want to dive into everything um

1:44:27 ↗ that's my opinion and i'm seeing lots of

1:44:28 ↗ nods so yeah so

1:44:30 ↗ carry on with the study include us in

1:44:32 ↗ the um and then update us and then

1:44:35 ↗ include us in your strategy for uh

1:44:37 ↗ before it's you know while there's still

1:44:38 ↗ time to

1:44:40 ↗ affect it and then anticipate bringing

1:44:43 ↗ us into um

1:44:45 ↗ a little more deeper engagement when you

1:44:47 ↗ start to develop project lists and mmp

1:44:49 ↗ updates and so forth and that's like

1:44:51 ↗ erica's got a comment

1:44:54 ↗ i think you actually just touched on it

1:44:55 ↗ cynthia about how like i guess as we're

1:44:57 ↗ going along and like the things we are

1:44:58 ↗ reviewing if we find out like we are

1:45:00 ↗ starting to get two in the weeds i guess

1:45:02 ↗ like what's from stopping us from then

1:45:03 ↗ forming a subcommittee you know like

1:45:08 ↗ i agree

1:45:13 ↗ i agree with a few people this is very

1:45:15 ↗ exciting you know we've had the transit

1:45:17 ↗ study on the work plan but i don't think

1:45:20 ↗ i really understood i mean i think i was

1:45:22 ↗ told but it kind of went in one ear and

1:45:23 ↗ out the other um but this is very robust

1:45:26 ↗ it kind of makes sense why it's been

1:45:29 ↗ you know

1:45:30 ↗ lingering or languishing a little bit or

1:45:32 ↗ just taking a long time but i think it's

1:45:34 ↗ super exciting

1:45:35 ↗ um

1:45:37 ↗ i think

1:45:38 ↗ at this point um

1:45:41 ↗ did we answer what you were hoping to

1:45:43 ↗ get for this evening

1:45:45 ↗ yeah absolutely so my understanding is

1:45:47 ↗ that

1:45:50 ↗ the the board wants to provide feedback

1:45:52 ↗ on the engagement strategy

1:45:54 ↗ the board also would like to receive

1:45:56 ↗ habitual updates as the project

1:45:58 ↗ progresses um

1:46:02 ↗ you know as we're as we're reaching

1:46:03 ↗ milestones uh just providing updates for

1:46:05 ↗ that and then

1:46:07 ↗ uh when we get to that project list uh

1:46:09 ↗ we're looking at the um potential

1:46:12 ↗ projects for the transit study um

1:46:14 ↗ feedback would

1:46:16 ↗ would be something that the board would

1:46:17 ↗ also like to provide

1:46:24 ↗ okay if i could input something um

1:46:28 ↗ i think this is going to be a great

1:46:30 ↗ project just a cell vision but

1:46:33 ↗ um i feel like there

1:46:36 ↗ is

1:46:37 ↗ some urgency as well to create some more

1:46:40 ↗ immediate

1:46:42 ↗ changes to the transit network so

1:46:45 ↗ i mean this is totally coming up late so

1:46:47 ↗ i'm just saying like something to be

1:46:49 ↗ considered there um

1:46:51 ↗ at some point um to

1:46:54 ↗ consider you know more immediate

1:46:56 ↗ or short-term changes even before the

1:46:58 ↗ visioning because there are some things

1:47:00 ↗ with our kinds of network that just need

1:47:03 ↗ immediate change that we can see

1:47:06 ↗ just pretty obviously but yeah excited

1:47:09 ↗ for the project

1:47:13 ↗ yep thank you thanks for um providing me

1:47:15 ↗ this opportunity to present this i'm

1:47:17 ↗ looking forward to

1:47:18 ↗ giving more updates this is a project

1:47:20 ↗ that i'm really excited about and um

1:47:23 ↗ it'll be it'll be a long project but um

1:47:26 ↗ hopefully through the end of this we'll

1:47:28 ↗ have a really good result

1:47:32 ↗ we certainly got a lot uh you had a lot

1:47:34 ↗ to prepare for your first uh tab meeting

1:47:36 ↗ so well done that's a lot a lot of

1:47:38 ↗ material

1:47:40 ↗ and um

1:47:42 ↗ i think it since isabelle had to go i

1:47:43 ↗ think we'll ask john to maybe cover the

1:47:46 ↗ work plan um and the staff report or

1:47:49 ↗ unless anyone else has a staff

1:47:51 ↗ report to give

1:47:53 ↗ yep i i'll cover those with a little bit

1:47:55 ↗ of help with from john i'm sorry i'm so

1:47:58 ↗ sorry i knew i would forget this and i

1:47:59 ↗ asked isabel to remind me dave has a

1:48:02 ↗ comment he wants to update us on us

1:48:05 ↗ about transit and um

1:48:07 ↗ i'm so sorry

1:48:09 ↗ uh dave are you ready to do that

1:48:12 ↗ i am and thank you cynthia

1:48:14 ↗ um i enjoyed hearing all the comments

1:48:17 ↗ i'm not an expert on the

1:48:19 ↗ transit plan but i plan to be

1:48:22 ↗ in the next

1:48:23 ↗ little bit

1:48:24 ↗ uh

1:48:26 ↗ especially the transit study

1:48:29 ↗ it's huge

1:48:30 ↗ so

1:48:31 ↗ talking about changes let's talk about

1:48:33 ↗ the first one that's effective right now

1:48:37 ↗ uh

1:48:38 ↗ i don't know how many of you are orca

1:48:40 ↗ card holders but i have a lot of orca

1:48:42 ↗ card holders at the senior center and

1:48:46 ↗ the orca cards are in fact changing and

1:48:48 ↗ i'm looking at the time i'm going to

1:48:50 ↗ keep this down to about five minutes

1:48:54 ↗ you used to manage your orca card

1:48:58 ↗ on orca card.com

1:49:01 ↗ you're not going to be able to do that

1:49:03 ↗ anymore it's changing it changed

1:49:05 ↗ actually in may

1:49:07 ↗ it's now my orca dot com

1:49:10 ↗ and there's both a website

1:49:14 ↗ for myorca.com

1:49:16 ↗ and a handy dandy i have it

1:49:19 ↗ on my phone already

1:49:20 ↗ you can edit it from your iphone because

1:49:23 ↗ there's an app

1:49:25 ↗ called myorca

1:49:27 ↗ that's how you get the the funding um on

1:49:31 ↗ your orca card these changes

1:49:35 ↗ all tie into what we talked about you

1:49:38 ↗ guys talked about earlier they're going

1:49:40 ↗ to be sneaky little changes that are

1:49:42 ↗ going to come in quickly and you're

1:49:43 ↗ going to go oh my god i didn't know that

1:49:46 ↗ so

1:49:47 ↗ how you're using your orca card now how

1:49:49 ↗ many have got orca cards

1:49:53 ↗ oh wow none of you have orca cars so i'm

1:49:56 ↗ talking a different way well cynthia has

1:49:59 ↗ one okay

1:50:01 ↗ oh john has one i'm seeing our hands

1:50:03 ↗ there's hands all over the place

1:50:06 ↗ okay

1:50:07 ↗ actually i'm getting a lot of unstable

1:50:09 ↗ tonight it's been unstable most of the

1:50:12 ↗ night

1:50:13 ↗ so i see that little yellow triangle

1:50:15 ↗ then i see your faces anyway

1:50:18 ↗ so your orca cards are going to be

1:50:20 ↗ changing

1:50:21 ↗ by july

1:50:23 ↗ you'll be able to get the new card

1:50:26 ↗ itself

1:50:27 ↗ until then you're gonna use your old

1:50:31 ↗ card

1:50:32 ↗ however you need to change over to

1:50:34 ↗ myorca.com

1:50:37 ↗ shortly because that's how you're gonna

1:50:40 ↗ be able to change doing things like

1:50:43 ↗ adding money and

1:50:46 ↗ there are gonna be some new places added

1:50:49 ↗ where you can add funds

1:50:52 ↗ um and there's going to be some old

1:50:54 ↗ places that are going to go away

1:50:57 ↗ one of the things that i'm not happy

1:51:00 ↗ about

1:51:02 ↗ used to be as a driver somebody could

1:51:04 ↗ get on with their orca card and they had

1:51:06 ↗ their grandchildren and they could say

1:51:09 ↗ i've got two children and one adult

1:51:11 ↗ driver could

1:51:13 ↗ tickle in the information on the driver

1:51:16 ↗ destination or a driver display unit and

1:51:21 ↗ then you just tap your card one time

1:51:24 ↗ that's gone away can't do that anymore

1:51:27 ↗ everyone that rides has to have an orca

1:51:29 ↗ card you can't do it any other way

1:51:32 ↗ and the smartest thing about the orca

1:51:34 ↗ card is

1:51:36 ↗ if you're riding between metro and sound

1:51:39 ↗ transit it's the only way you can get a

1:51:42 ↗ transfer i

1:51:44 ↗ i'd probably be hoarse as many times as

1:51:47 ↗ i've said that

1:51:49 ↗ so this is important information

1:51:52 ↗ i'm not going to talk anymore i'm going

1:51:55 ↗ to hold this up because i don't have a

1:51:57 ↗ slide

1:51:58 ↗ you can get this on any bus

1:52:00 ↗ okay see it and it basically is

1:52:06 ↗ orca and it gives all those changes and

1:52:10 ↗ they are on buses

1:52:12 ↗ uh i will have some at the senior center

1:52:15 ↗ i hope

1:52:17 ↗ but there's going to be changes

1:52:20 ↗ i am going to provide my wife and i are

1:52:22 ↗ going to provide a class to the seniors

1:52:25 ↗ at the senior center

1:52:27 ↗ twice in july so that they have the

1:52:30 ↗ information on the changes that they

1:52:32 ↗ need to orca

1:52:34 ↗ we're going to see all kinds of little

1:52:36 ↗ changes like this

1:52:38 ↗ to get us to that bigger picture of the

1:52:41 ↗ mobility master plane plan and all the

1:52:44 ↗ changes we're going to need to make

1:52:48 ↗ for

1:52:50 ↗ those bigger and better routes that are

1:52:52 ↗ going to come out to issaquah and so we

1:52:55 ↗ just

1:52:56 ↗ need to definitely

1:52:59 ↗ john and isabel

1:53:01 ↗ two things

1:53:02 ↗ talk about

1:53:04 ↗ this

1:53:05 ↗ if not every month every other month get

1:53:07 ↗ an update of where we are on transit and

1:53:11 ↗ the transit plan

1:53:13 ↗ the other thing i think the city is in

1:53:15 ↗ dire need

1:53:17 ↗ and that is

1:53:18 ↗ for

1:53:19 ↗ an orca card guru at the city who knows

1:53:23 ↗ everything there is to know about orca

1:53:26 ↗ cards where you can get them

1:53:28 ↗ and

1:53:29 ↗ what what i just talked about briefly

1:53:31 ↗ tonight and

1:53:33 ↗ i don't know who that guru is going to

1:53:35 ↗ be but i'm uh

1:53:37 ↗ i'm planting that seed

1:53:39 ↗ with isabel and john

1:53:42 ↗ and i'll probably plan it with mary lou

1:53:45 ↗ because she's a friend of mine that says

1:53:47 ↗ hey

1:53:49 ↗ we need to have an orca guru who can

1:53:52 ↗ answer all these questions for our

1:53:53 ↗ community

1:53:55 ↗ because we haven't had for years and we

1:53:57 ↗ need it badly anyway

1:54:00 ↗ that's all i got thank you for the time

1:54:02 ↗ cynthia

1:54:03 ↗ oh thank you and i i meant to um

1:54:07 ↗ i meant to invite you earlier so you

1:54:08 ↗ didn't weren't rushed but i very much

1:54:10 ↗ appreciate that i know we all appreciate

1:54:12 ↗ those updates very much

1:54:14 ↗ um

1:54:15 ↗ i do have a chair uh after the staff but

1:54:18 ↗ it will be very brief but john did you

1:54:19 ↗ want to

1:54:22 ↗ do the job oh i'll quickly go through

1:54:24 ↗ the staff report and the

1:54:26 ↗ tab work plan

1:54:28 ↗ and

1:54:31 ↗ coming up in july on the current

1:54:33 ↗ schedule is neighborhood safety program

1:54:36 ↗ i

1:54:38 ↗ update on the transit study

1:54:40 ↗ performance metrics

1:54:43 ↗ continuation of the concurrency and an

1:54:45 ↗ update on parks projects i don't think

1:54:47 ↗ we'll have all those but we'll see which

1:54:49 ↗ ones are ready to go for next month's

1:54:51 ↗ meeting and then for the staff report

1:54:54 ↗ i've got a couple items then john

1:54:55 ↗ larson's friend has an update on

1:54:57 ↗ scooters i want to remind everyone to

1:55:00 ↗ sign up for the deconstructing our bias

1:55:03 ↗ training the options are saturday

1:55:07 ↗ june 25th at 10 a.m thursday september

1:55:10 ↗ 8th at 6 p.m

1:55:12 ↗ saturday september 24th at 10 a.m

1:55:17 ↗ there will be a community service survey

1:55:19 ↗ sent out soon for the its

1:55:21 ↗ plan

1:55:24 ↗ about needs for transportation data and

1:55:26 ↗ technology

1:55:27 ↗ and for the transportation improvement

1:55:29 ↗ program on

1:55:31 ↗ june 6 we there was a public hearing at

1:55:33 ↗ the city council meeting that out of

1:55:35 ↗ that meeting the city council requested

1:55:37 ↗ one change and we had a project in the

1:55:40 ↗ future years to do

1:55:42 ↗ non-motorized planning on squawk

1:55:44 ↗ mountain and that project has

1:55:47 ↗ is going to be moved and proposed for

1:55:50 ↗ 2023 and with that i'll

1:55:52 ↗ pass it off to john really quickly

1:55:56 ↗ yes i'll try to keep this quick because

1:55:58 ↗ i know we're up against the hour a

1:56:01 ↗ couple notes on the orca i really

1:56:02 ↗ appreciate david your update i do want

1:56:05 ↗ to reiterate though that the uh you do

1:56:08 ↗ not need new orca cards under this new

1:56:10 ↗ system unless you reload in stores so

1:56:14 ↗ just just to let you know your your old

1:56:16 ↗ cards will still work

1:56:17 ↗ for a while

1:56:18 ↗ until something changes i guess um

1:56:22 ↗ there is also a a new uh youth free

1:56:25 ↗ program on the horizon so stay tuned for

1:56:28 ↗ that on the county level which is pretty

1:56:30 ↗ exciting so uh scooters so on tuesday we

1:56:33 ↗ presented to the mobility and

1:56:35 ↗ infrastructure committee on uh scooter

1:56:37 ↗ share pilot

1:56:38 ↗ very excited about this so um in 2021 uh

1:56:42 ↗ micro mobility company bird approached

1:56:44 ↗ the city about possibly bringing the

1:56:46 ↗ scooter share uh program to the city um

1:56:49 ↗ so we've been working internally with uh

1:56:52 ↗ and and with bird on the feasibility of

1:56:54 ↗ such a program and basically have

1:56:57 ↗ concluded that it highly aligns with our

1:56:59 ↗ community's transportation goals

1:57:01 ↗ so i am excited to say that after the

1:57:04 ↗ presentation uh the three committee

1:57:06 ↗ council members were very excited about

1:57:08 ↗ this pilot and it will be moving forward

1:57:10 ↗ council for approval and that will

1:57:12 ↗ likely happen next month

1:57:15 ↗ um so if if approved uh the pilot would

1:57:18 ↗ go through december and then be

1:57:20 ↗ re-evaluated for a possible one-year

1:57:21 ↗ extension through 2023

1:57:24 ↗ and we do want to note that

1:57:26 ↗ as you might have noticed we didn't

1:57:27 ↗ bring it before tab

1:57:29 ↗ we we kind of decided that because tab

1:57:32 ↗ is generally more on the policy side

1:57:34 ↗ than the program side that we didn't

1:57:37 ↗ necessarily need to bring it for this

1:57:39 ↗ committee um and but we did ask the

1:57:42 ↗ mobility and infrastructure committee if

1:57:44 ↗ we did need to kind of bring it back to

1:57:46 ↗ you all and they did agree with with our

1:57:48 ↗ opinion so

1:57:50 ↗ um but they did uh the council members

1:57:53 ↗ did want us to make sure

1:57:55 ↗ that you were aware of this proposal

1:57:58 ↗ and you're all highly highly encouraged

1:58:00 ↗ to provide uh input as residents

1:58:02 ↗ especially since your tab members

1:58:04 ↗ um so when a city count or the city

1:58:07 ↗ council uh date set i will make sure to

1:58:09 ↗ make all of you aware so that you all

1:58:12 ↗ can engage with the public feedback

1:58:14 ↗ process that you choose so

1:58:16 ↗ thank you for hopefully that was fast

1:58:18 ↗ enough no it was four minutes anyway

1:58:20 ↗ i'll toss it back to john now

1:58:25 ↗ thanks that concludes the staff report

1:58:28 ↗ okay thank you

1:58:30 ↗ um i'm gonna be real brief but i wanted

1:58:31 ↗ to give you guys an update um

1:58:34 ↗ uh

1:58:35 ↗ i did have a chance to communicate with

1:58:37 ↗ sujata

1:58:38 ↗ and she uh

1:58:40 ↗ said that it was fine for me to give you

1:58:42 ↗ guys the update that she gave me which

1:58:44 ↗ was that she's nearing the end of her

1:58:47 ↗ this portion of her journey with her

1:58:49 ↗ medical challenges and she she said she

1:58:52 ↗ hopes to rejoin um and she misses us a

1:58:54 ↗ lot i'm not going to hold her to it i

1:58:56 ↗ imagine she has a lot of life to catch

1:58:58 ↗ up with um but she seemed uh and this

1:59:01 ↗ was just electronic communication but

1:59:03 ↗ seemed in good spirits um but it was

1:59:05 ↗ very nice uh to hear from her and she

1:59:07 ↗ wanted me to share those thoughts um so

1:59:09 ↗ that concludes my chair report uh joseph

1:59:12 ↗ do we have a youth report

1:59:14 ↗ um no youth report today okay

1:59:17 ↗ um well good well we're just a couple

1:59:19 ↗ minutes over so um well there's i'm

1:59:21 ↗ sorry are there any other business or

1:59:22 ↗ announcements

1:59:25 ↗ i guess um

1:59:27 ↗ i guess i can communicate right now

1:59:29 ↗ won't be

1:59:30 ↗ uh here for the july or october meetings

1:59:37 ↗ thank you thank you for letting me know

1:59:38 ↗ um

1:59:40 ↗ and uh you guys are all encouraged to to

1:59:43 ↗ let people know if you're going to be

1:59:44 ↗ out

1:59:45 ↗ obviously so we know

1:59:47 ↗ uh if we have a quorum that night and um

1:59:50 ↗ we don't

1:59:51 ↗ wait for people that

1:59:52 ↗ told us they were not going to that we

1:59:54 ↗ didn't know so anyway um i want to thank

1:59:56 ↗ all of you guys for your time

1:59:58 ↗ um

1:59:59 ↗ and thank you staff um it was a good

2:00:02 ↗ meeting this evening and i'm so excited

2:00:04 ↗ about seeing you all in person

2:00:07 ↗ um everybody's always taller shorter

2:00:09 ↗ than i imagined them to be when i

2:00:10 ↗ finally meet them in person but i met

2:00:12 ↗ some of you in person but yeah um

2:00:15 ↗ i am oh dave do you have something you

2:00:17 ↗ want to say

2:00:18 ↗ are you just really tall

2:00:20 ↗ i'm just kidding

2:00:23 ↗ go ahead

2:00:24 ↗ real quick uh since we're going to be in

2:00:27 ↗ person

2:00:28 ↗ will there be a such thing as a cookies

2:00:31 ↗ and coffee or no

2:00:36 ↗ i sure hope so

2:00:37 ↗ you don't want to see me if i forgot to

2:00:39 ↗ eat

2:00:42 ↗ oh brilliant little snacks

2:00:46 ↗ i'll bring their cookies and coffee

2:00:49 ↗ you're so it's my understanding that

2:00:51 ↗ steven set the bar by doing that so

2:00:54 ↗ we'll find a way to continue it

2:00:59 ↗ bring your own cookies

2:01:01 ↗ stephen

2:01:03 ↗ all right team great job

2:01:06 ↗ have a great evening have a great

2:01:07 ↗ weekend we'll see you all in person in

2:01:10 ↗ july

2:01:11 ↗ um and thank you

2:01:15 ↗ thank you all bye everybody

2:01:18 ↗ [Music]

2:01:23 ↗ you

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Cynthia Krass

Julian Mydlil

Micah Zeitz-Chua

Kristi Tripple

Dave Waggoner

Erika Boyd

Joseph Zhang

Jeri Bernstein

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Isabel Diaz, Senior Transportation Engineer

John Mortenson, Senior Transportation Manager

Tisha Gieser, City Clerk

Thomas Valdriz, Senior Transportation Planner

Stephen Padua, Long Range Transportation Planner

Janie Walzer

Tom McDonald

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