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Monday, April 24, 2023

7:00 PM · 2h 8m
Topic tracked across meetings:
Public Art Update: Pedestrian Park, Senior Center Plazas, (D,I) AB 8695 2/6
Section
Topic
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of March 16, 2023
packet pp.3–4
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 03-16-23 Environmental Board Minutes Page 1 CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental & Parks Boards Special Meeting 6:30 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. Mar 16, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah
2b
Minutes of March 27, 2023
packet pp.5–7
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES b) 03-27-23 Park Board Minutes Page 1 CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave March 27, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah
4. REGULAR BUSINESS
4a
2024-2029 Draft CIP for Parks and Trails, (D)
20 min · Jennifer Fink, Park Planner and Project Administrator Mithun Consultant Team · packet pp.9–37
Topics: ParksBudget
Staff report:
Draft CIP: Focus on Parks & Trails APRIL 24, 2023
4c
Community Investment Strategy Project Update, re: Pedestrian Park and Senior Center Plaza, (D,A)
40 min · Jennifer Fink, Park Planner and Project Administrator Mithun Consultant Team · packet pp.61–125
Topics: TransportationParks
Staff report:
and four framework options to two concepts: • Creekside Table • Valley Trail
5. REPORTS
5a
Chairperson's Report
5b
Youth Representative's Report
5c
Director's Report
0:06 you know thank you all for joining we're
0:09 gonna get started here
0:11 all right uh so welcome to the April
0:14 24th 2023 meeting I'll start off by
0:17 taking uh roll call so uh when I call
0:20 your name please take yourself off mute
0:22 or just acknowledge your presence uh so
0:26 Brenda
0:28 Brad I'm here
0:32 Chris president
0:34 David
0:36 present
0:38 president Katie
0:42 Arlene
0:45 Nicholas
0:47 present
0:49 Tim
0:53 Andrew e Andrew
0:59 all right uh so moving on to the
1:01 approval of minutes from we had uh two
1:04 two meetings so uh March 16th any
1:08 questions comments or Corrections
1:12 right does anyone have any objections to
1:15 me approving the minutes for March 16th
1:19 okay hereby approve the minutes from
1:22 March 16 2023 uh did everyone get a
1:25 chance to look at the March 27th uh
1:28 meeting minutes
1:29 any questions comments or Corrections
1:34 all right uh anyone have any objection
1:37 to approving the March 27 2023 meeting
1:41 minutes
1:44 okay hereby approve the minutes from
1:47 March 27 to 2823
1:50 all right
1:51 um so looks like uh we have a
1:54 potentially quite a few comments in the
1:56 public so I'd like to open the door and
2:00 basically when
2:02 there's no electron to step up to so
2:05 just feel free to uh to stand or sit in
2:07 place and state state your name and
2:09 relationship to the city and try to
2:12 limit your comments to uh five minutes
2:28 still hear me
2:31 hello thanks for the opportunity uh to
2:34 speak and my name is Paul winterstein
2:36 I'm here in my capacity as the executive
2:39 director of the Issaquah history of
2:40 museums and this is my fourth week in
2:43 this position and I wanted to speak a
2:46 little about concerning the portion of
2:49 your agenda later today about the
2:51 eckhouse on the most part and a very
2:54 fascinating story for me because I
2:55 actually was on Council when we adopted
2:57 the master plan for a conference Park
3:00 and so it's still unfolding which is
3:02 really good a year uh the uh
3:06 I've had a couple conversations with
3:08 director Watling and Jennifer joined us
3:12 once as well so the well breathed and I
3:14 haven't looked at the material ahead of
3:16 time the History Museum
3:18 history museums is not our board hasn't
3:21 taken like a formal position on what's
3:23 going on we're grateful for the dialogue
3:26 that we have we plan and I'm going to
3:28 continue to invest to kind of be that
3:31 partner who helps tell the historic
3:34 story and I wanted and I brought
3:37 something from from our Research Center
3:40 I wanted to share with you about the
3:41 deck house which I hope influences some
3:44 of what you're thinking about the
3:46 portion of this of the work you're going
3:49 to do the X who actually built this the
3:53 immigrants
3:56 Christina and Anton at
3:58 here's a photo of them from the 19th so
4:02 like it was in the 1990 or so Issaquah
4:06 press as the photo of the five daughters
4:09 that grew to adulthood five sons that
4:11 grew to adulthood the youngest son here
4:14 on the right Walter
4:16 um and uh I don't know anything about
4:18 his wife but they had two children
4:21 and uh one of whom is still living in
4:25 this apartment so a granddaughter of the
4:28 people but the immigrants who built this
4:30 house
4:31 and um I visited her on Friday last
4:35 Friday
4:36 actually Thursday and and
4:40 um it was a fascinating discussion and
4:43 one of the um things that we talked
4:46 about was her memories as a child in the
4:48 house
4:49 she was not able to get around too much
4:52 too well and had Revisited it didn't
4:54 realize that there was a nice playground
4:56 right here we talked about that we
4:58 talked about I told her updated a little
5:00 bit about what was going on to the
5:02 former house that she remembered and
5:04 remembers that she shared with me had to
5:07 do for young kid especially remembering
5:10 celebrating birthday parties
5:13 and her grandmother and grandfather's
5:15 house and playing in the wash house
5:18 during birthday parties so and um
5:23 I think that so that's a real part of
5:26 the history of that house
5:27 and this this connection
5:31 in this idea that um
5:35 any work could result in a space that
5:39 really encourages the welcoming and fun
5:42 and able to support our notes you know
5:45 children posting birthday parties at the
5:47 playground and there's a there's a safe
5:50 facility for them to have that and it's
5:52 part of what women do here even a little
5:54 my mind even a little mock-up of the
5:56 Wash House that I think that she
5:58 remember playing in but but that's so
6:00 that's part of our own history from
6:02 somebody who grew up here which I we
6:04 didn't even know
6:05 beforehand that a Living member was here
6:08 in the community so so that that was one
6:11 story I wanted to share with you which I
6:13 like very much
6:14 um and I
6:16 I've learned a little bit recently I
6:18 know that the consideration of
6:20 landmarking it I know the buildings that
6:23 we're managing are the exteriors are
6:25 landmarks at work you'll be a
6:27 landmarking commission individual and
6:29 I've learned a bit about you know what
6:31 we do on the inside of those buildings
6:33 like the Oldman Town Hall in particular
6:35 is really about
6:38 allowing us to fulfill our mission as an
6:41 organization and the outside which is
6:43 landmark that's where the restrictions
6:45 are do apply in terms of what type of
6:48 Maintenance you can do what type of
6:50 changes you can do
6:52 is the now speaking just for myself this
6:55 idea that there would be a really well
6:58 maintained historical building there
7:01 that has a historic that has a clear
7:03 story told with it and yet it is now
7:07 integrated into the community in a way
7:10 especially those that enjoy the park I
7:13 think that's a that's a really nice
7:14 outcome and the last thing I wanted to
7:16 mention as well is we just talk about
7:19 like the app family that period of time
7:22 is a small slice of time in the history
7:25 of this location right we're talking
7:27 about the first White Sellers from
7:29 Europe that arrived there I haven't done
7:32 any research and I can't bring you
7:33 anything about uh you know the
7:36 impersonation people that lived there
7:38 for for a time of Memorial beforehand or
7:41 even along with that the Natural History
7:43 before all of that but this idea that
7:46 the current shape of this location
7:49 um you know which really took on its
7:51 characterization characters uh after
7:54 since the Ice Age and the relations from
7:56 the treatment there's a natural history
7:57 story
7:59 there's there's a European civil acceler
8:02 Story and there's a more current story
8:04 and wouldn't that be wonderful not only
8:06 kids enjoying birthday parties but
8:08 learning about all of this history as as
8:11 part of the work that you do here
8:13 and and uh so there's a lot more history
8:16 in that you know there's something the
8:18 hot sweater was there and there's some
8:20 possibilities of negatives
8:25 to find ways to hopefully uh add and
8:29 tell elements of the entire history of
8:32 that area not just the most recent uh
8:34 way to Celebration
8:39 thank you
8:42 okay okay
8:48 um I will I suppose segue off of
8:52 eckhouse uh I think the money
8:56 needs to go first house we already have
8:59 a picnic shelter we already have a
9:01 playground
9:02 uh the park was not meant to have a lot
9:05 of playground in it when I established
9:08 on women's part it's supposed to be a
9:10 passive Park not here's the active so I
9:15 would say that getting the foundations
9:17 done and getting eckhouse into something
9:20 that can be preserved rather than doing
9:23 this other work and hoping for funding
9:26 in the future as Egg House decays
9:29 further in the park is an unwise
9:33 decision
9:34 so then we're going to go to The
9:39 Pedestrian Park and the shelter and
9:42 while I like the new
9:45 sinuous
9:46 feel of pedestrian art I looked at the
9:51 picture and said wow that's a lot going
9:53 on in a park that is so narrow and so I
9:56 would this the scale of all of that
9:59 seems a bit off so I'm going to think
10:02 about maybe dropping an element in the
10:05 narratives of that part
10:07 um I I don't see the history still in
10:09 the shelter I'm not sure what those are
10:14 supposed to be but they don't evoke
10:16 anything and maybe watering
10:21 yeah
10:22 that's really the construct so
10:24 not yeah whatever so then I'm going to
10:29 go to the capital
10:32 prioritization
10:35 it's fascinating because I've been
10:39 through the capitol re-prioritization
10:41 maybe eight times six times I don't know
10:44 how many times and yet the same thing
10:46 happens
10:47 it's a prioritization
10:51 charts did not reflect my reality of
10:54 what community prioritizes and as a
10:58 little confused about legal commitments
11:01 I don't know that weight finding is a
11:03 legal commitment I'm pretty sure new
11:04 park signs are not a community priority
11:08 in places that we already have them and
11:11 so to me it feels like yeah we're doing
11:14 the same things we always did we're
11:16 doing what somebody wants to do and then
11:19 it was one area it says and we are
11:22 looking to a new funding source
11:25 so here here I say wow if you look at
11:29 all of the cips not just the park cips
11:32 and you calculate the amount of funding
11:35 this city wants to spend near term in
11:39 this net CIP it is going to blow here
11:41 flipping socks off and then you look at
11:44 the community and you say how much are
11:47 they willing to spend on all of these
11:50 things and where are they going to want
11:51 to spend it and try to look at this list
11:54 with a jaundiced eye and they're
11:57 supposed to be a thing can it actually
11:59 happen but that actually happen thing is
12:02 really quite Green in many places which
12:05 I don't think that that is actually true
12:07 given given our current funding source
12:10 and Concepts so
12:13 um I'm not surprised by the whole thing
12:16 because this is exactly what has
12:17 happened the last however many times we
12:19 did the capital Improvement plan but
12:22 never hopeful so uh again fun house
12:26 don't fund the excess play areas that we
12:28 already have examples of in that Park
12:30 let's actually do something historic
12:32 which is what y'all promise the
12:34 community so many years ago and at this
12:37 point in time you've only done that it's
12:39 only gotten destroyed rather than saved
12:42 thanks
12:51 Corey Christensen I also live on squawk
12:54 and I want to comment both about the
12:57 senior center Depot project and the heck
13:00 house I'll start with the uh Senior
13:04 Center project what bothers me about
13:06 that about the project is the Veterans
13:09 Monument
13:10 and given that we're spending I think
13:14 it's four million dollars now with the
13:15 latest price increase for the broader
13:18 project I think that that Monument needs
13:21 to be highlighted and meaning you're
13:24 building this Plaza in front of the
13:26 senior center and historically all of
13:29 the land that the senior center on was
13:30 once part of Memorial Field and there
13:33 was actually some controversy years ago
13:35 when it was like the library that
13:39 um people in the public came and came
13:42 out and were concerned that they were
13:43 losing field space now we're not
13:46 re-re-mitigating that or anything all
13:49 the point is is the ground we're talking
13:51 about is all
13:53 Memorial Field and related to that
13:56 Memorial and so for spending this much
13:58 money that that Memorial needs to be a
14:01 centerpiece in this in this Plaza right
14:04 now it's just in a parking strip and it
14:07 shouldn't it shouldn't be much to move
14:09 it where the flagpole and Memorial are a
14:13 centerpiece because really
14:15 um having people look and think about
14:19 that Memorial is a really important
14:21 thing and it's an important thing for
14:23 many of the city goals
14:26 history but also Equity you know there's
14:28 a woman on that Monument there's people
14:32 that aren't on the monument that could
14:34 be one is a
14:36 that's all missing from the Korean War
14:38 who was uh his mother was an Alaska
14:41 native and so there's actually a lot of
14:43 stories that could be told
14:46 um about that that
14:48 the you know the whole thing is that
14:51 these people are forgotten and to bring
14:55 their stories out just by people seeing
14:57 them possibly thinking about them is
14:59 important and with all the money that
15:01 we're spending it wouldn't be much of a
15:03 design change to nudge that over 10 feet
15:06 15 feet and get the approval of the VFW
15:09 guys and the veterans and community and
15:11 make this a really a special place
15:15 um that Kennels
15:17 first I want to
15:19 um thank you guys there's some progress
15:21 because we're previously it's going to
15:23 be a picnic shelter and totally gone and
15:26 so moving forward to where we're at now
15:29 is is is a great step forward however
15:32 you really need to take it and push it
15:34 one step further maybe more than one
15:37 step in that making a firm commitment to
15:39 do something with it because the
15:42 entirety of the Confluence part master
15:45 plan and Community meetings that were
15:48 held which were very well attended there
15:51 were three of them it was not that long
15:53 ago 10-12 years ago the historical
15:56 elements were all a key part of that and
15:59 we've already through you know a number
16:01 of reasons lost some of those historical
16:04 elements Anderson house the barn things
16:06 like that and the promise was that that
16:09 would be centered in the heck house that
16:11 I was looking at your uh
16:14 slides on what could be in the egg house
16:17 there's one thing that alternative that
16:20 is left out I mean you have some
16:22 beautiful options but they're very
16:24 expensive the one uh thing that or
16:27 building in the city that would be could
16:30 be similar just as an option is the is
16:32 the trail house it's across from the
16:35 Parks Department
16:36 administrative building which is another
16:39 similar house in age outside your store
16:42 inside is just a very simple meeting
16:44 room
16:45 but we've lost that meeting room it's
16:47 now the parks department is using it for
16:49 authors and previously what that room
16:51 was was a was a place that you could go
16:53 to the community center and if you were
16:55 a non-profit you could check out a key
16:57 and use it and so one of the the
17:00 uses that the you know eckhouse was
17:04 discussed 10 12 years ago was having a
17:07 place where the Girl Scouts could meet
17:08 or the quilting Club can meet and it
17:10 wasn't as Grand and fast fancy as what
17:13 was proposed but it was still a historic
17:17 building and a place where people could
17:18 meet for free because there really is no
17:20 place in Issaquah that Community groups
17:22 can can be for free the other part that
17:25 is not in there is that
17:27 some of our other historic buildings
17:30 were restored by the community
17:32 namely Greg Springer and the DIA people
17:36 and that's the the two two that are come
17:40 to mind or the train depot
17:42 and the Shell station uh Hailstone feed
17:45 store and they also have have done
17:48 volunteers have done a lot of work on
17:51 other historic buildings in Issaquah and
17:54 there's an option that
17:56 you know the community could rebuild the
18:00 eckhouse and an example of that is in
18:03 Sammamish there's a similar house called
18:06 the rear house that the Samana Heritage
18:08 Society the community four culture King
18:12 County Historical grants and the
18:15 Sammamish parks department have all
18:17 collaborated and that's about to open
18:19 now and that is there one
18:21 landmark building in Sammamish and that
18:24 is a model that the eckhouse could go
18:26 under if or could could follow that
18:28 would be much cheaper than the 1.2
18:31 million dollars not quite as fancy but
18:34 enough to make it so it's not a derelict
18:36 building
18:37 so in conclusion of the app house I mean
18:40 I think there needs to be
18:43 higher level of commitment to do
18:45 something
18:46 if I were sitting at the table I would
18:49 want the eight hundred thousand dollars
18:51 split worth 600 000 of it goes to the
18:54 playground and the whatever else the
18:57 plaza thing and 200 000 goes to the
19:00 eckhouse to fix its foundation and do
19:03 some basic things to get it so it's not
19:06 a barrel Equity because what's sad is is
19:08 you got this new beautiful structure and
19:11 Plaza next to this derelict building and
19:14 it also from a
19:17 community perspective the parts
19:19 department the city really needs to
19:21 follow through whether with their past
19:24 promises and bring the Egg House forward
19:27 so people can use it anyway thank you
19:30 and I appreciate all your time and
19:32 efforts
19:37 any other comments in the room
19:42 okay
19:44 um I believe so one on we do have a few
19:48 people joining us online um if anybody
19:50 would like to make public comments
19:51 online you can feel free to unmute
19:54 yourself
19:54 um and turn your camera on if you'd like
19:57 um and we'll give it a couple of minutes
20:12 I don't see any activity so I think we
20:16 can move on if you did have comments
20:18 feel free you can uh write those in
20:20 either too myself or to the cardboard
20:24 okay so uh moving forward to the 2024 to
20:27 2029 draft cids for parks and trails
20:31 Japanese
20:33 great well I think that's me then let me
20:37 try to pull up my presentation here
20:58 all right good evening everybody uh my
21:02 name is Andrea Snyder I'm the deputy
21:04 City administrator
21:06 um I uh as the deputy City administrator
21:09 some of my responsibilities include
21:11 long-term financial planning for the
21:13 city when it comes to Capital assets and
21:15 infrastructure and so you uh some of you
21:19 were at our board Summit that we held
21:22 last February on rcip and we talked
21:26 about criteria this is a follow-up to
21:28 that conversation today with me I also
21:31 have Susie monsell who is the city's
21:34 budget manager and also she leads the
21:38 CIP development for us in the city so
21:40 thank you Susie for being here
21:43 um and we want to talk about what is in
21:45 the draft CIP so far when it comes to
21:48 parks and trails and that's the focus
21:51 area that I'm asking for some feedback
21:53 from you all this evening
21:55 um I want to start off by saying that
21:57 the CIA P draft is not complete so
22:00 you'll notice in your packet that you're
22:01 able to take a look at that there's no
22:03 actual CIP draft in there and that's
22:05 because we are still creating it in fact
22:09 Susie is working on that when she's not
22:12 here in this room of putting all those
22:15 pieces together so the information that
22:17 we shared with you in your packet is not
22:19 even hot off the presses it's before it
22:21 even gets to the presses and that's why
22:24 there were so many different attachments
22:26 for you this evening because we're still
22:27 compiling it all and putting it all
22:29 together
22:30 um and so the draft will be complete and
22:33 released May 1st which does not sign a
22:37 squeezy into a panic spiral so that's
22:38 good I think we're on track
22:41 um but that's when we'll have the draft
22:43 whole and complete and ready
22:46 um for more discussion at that point so
22:48 tonight though we do have a focus on
22:51 parks and trails and what parks and
22:53 trails projects are within that six-year
22:55 plan for the CIP so that's what we're
22:57 going to be talking about in relation to
22:59 the new criteria that we have uh to that
23:02 we use to vet projects that go into the
23:05 CIP
23:09 and this is when I slides are supposed
23:13 to advance
23:15 okay great
23:17 um so agenda for this evening we'll talk
23:19 about the direction and feedback we're
23:21 looking for you all I want to give a
23:24 brief background on the CIP process as a
23:27 reminder we'll talk about an overview of
23:29 what's in the CIP some new things for
23:32 parks and Trail especially uh near-term
23:35 projects and planned Investments and
23:38 then we'll get to the discussion and
23:39 feedback uh and also talk about what is
23:42 coming next
23:46 we are really looking for feedback on
23:48 how these criteria were applied so we're
23:52 not talking about feedback on individual
23:55 projects per se we're really just
23:57 wondering the new criteria that we have
23:59 how did we do in applying them are there
24:01 any surprises that you felt
24:05 um do you think that you missed
24:07 something and how we applied the
24:09 criteria as you were able to hopefully
24:11 review that before this evening
24:14 and
24:15 um you know my understanding is that
24:16 you've already talked uh as a park board
24:19 about many of these projects so it
24:20 shouldn't be none of these projects
24:22 should be a huge surprise to you
24:24 um and again what we're really looking
24:26 for feedback on is about the criteria we
24:29 were to use them again what changes
24:31 should we consider did we miss anything
24:32 big and how do we applied them attack
24:37 um so first before we get into that
24:38 discussion uh just a reminder the CIP
24:41 the capital Improvement plan is a
24:44 planning document it's not a budget so
24:47 all of this is just what's in the plans
24:49 how are we lining this up for the budget
24:50 uh to be put into action later so things
24:53 on this list for the next six years and
24:56 what is on the list for the out years
24:59 um is is subject to change but this is
25:02 kind of our best guess so far
25:07 um a reminder you should probably
25:08 recognize this lovely image that hasanti
25:11 helped create for us
25:13 um from the board Summit and what this
25:16 talks about are the steps through
25:18 um that we're taking to the form to get
25:20 to a capital project right so we have
25:22 the 20-year master plan or in this case
25:25 the park strategic plan which I know we
25:27 are updating again this year but we look
25:30 at that far out picture that is where
25:31 the park board and others in the
25:33 community are able to influence what
25:35 projects what policies are we
25:37 considering for that big
25:38 long-term Vision uh then we use that
25:42 strategic plan to formulate what's in
25:44 the sixth year CIP we go we use the
25:47 criteria to prioritize What's um what
25:50 goes into that six-year CNP so that
25:52 middle uh trapezoid is where we are
25:56 today and then we use that six year CIP
26:00 to help formulate our two-year budget
26:02 and to really figure out okay out of
26:04 that six-year CIP now have better
26:07 Revenue estimates now we really know how
26:09 much things are going to cost what can
26:10 we actually get done in the next two
26:13 years and then we go into the funded
26:15 Capital project and sometimes I think
26:16 the the park board has some more
26:18 feedback into exactly what that project
26:19 looks like on that level as well so
26:22 that's the general process for how
26:24 projects can become real from Vision to
26:27 implementation and we are in that middle
26:31 little box
26:35 okay
26:36 um background so changes since the last
26:39 CIP we do a big CIP update every two
26:42 years and changes since last time we had
26:45 a Capital Finance Community task force
26:48 Brad uh books sat on that uh task force
26:52 to represent the park board that uh
26:54 concluded in 2021 and the task force had
26:58 a couple of recommendations they
26:59 recommended the city do more to invest
27:01 in infrastructure including the pursuit
27:04 of new Revenue tools to help us do more
27:07 the task force also recommended and
27:10 stated that mobility and transportation
27:12 was a first priority for the city but
27:14 that parks and trails and Facilities
27:16 were also really important
27:19 um and also since the last CIP we've
27:23 adopted new and criteria and we have
27:26 tried to improve the criteria
27:29 um that was carried over from past years
27:31 we've also added this red yellow green
27:33 grading before it was check the box yes
27:37 or no do you meet this criteria so we've
27:39 tried to raise the bar on which projects
27:42 really need it how well are they needing
27:44 it and have us think about these things
27:47 um so we've tried to incorporate both of
27:50 these uh recommendations from the task
27:53 force as well as the new criteria into
27:55 how we drafted the CIP trying to take
27:57 all of those things together
28:00 um with figuring out which projects we
28:02 can do in the next six years
28:05 so here are the new uh criteria that we
28:08 talked about at the board Summit
28:10 um there was a follow-up memo that I
28:12 think director Watling went over
28:15 uh that spoke to these criteria how they
28:19 were changed from the board Summit so
28:20 I'm not going to get into those details
28:22 with you tonight that information is
28:24 available in your packet so you can see
28:27 more information on what the criteria
28:29 are what they mean what is part of the
28:32 red yellow green thresholds and Grading
28:34 and how we determined that what I want
28:37 to say is how we've used these new
28:38 criteria so when we ask staff to submit
28:41 projects for consideration into the CIP
28:44 we asked the staff to go through their
28:47 criteria and self rate so did they think
28:50 that this project was a red yellow and
28:51 green and so Jen Fink or wonderful gen
28:54 Fink had to do a lot of that for the
28:56 parks and trails project so if you have
28:58 questions about why something's graded
29:01 one way or another hopefully gen can
29:03 help Enlighten and Enlighten us on those
29:06 questions
29:08 um once staff self-graded Finance was
29:12 kind of an independent party overseeing
29:14 that too so they reviewed those gradings
29:16 tried to check for consistency across
29:18 the organization that kind of thing
29:20 looked at scores worked with departments
29:22 more
29:24 um but you know
29:25 this is our first year applying these
29:27 types of criteria in this way and I know
29:29 that one of the pieces of feedback from
29:31 this board was
29:33 um you know red yellow and green it's
29:35 not very nuanced we want to have more
29:37 Nuance to that conversation and maybe
29:40 there should be some waiting associated
29:42 with this and so you know I think what
29:43 we took a look at is
29:46 um it shows the time not to wait each of
29:48 these individual criteria but there were
29:50 times where if you look through some of
29:53 the attachments in your packet you'll
29:55 see that sometimes things rated kind of
29:58 low in one category but maybe legal
30:01 mandate or life and safety concerns
30:03 really outweighed some of the criteria
30:05 that's especially true in things like
30:08 utility infrastructure for example
30:11 um for infrastructure related to Public
30:13 Safety and so
30:15 um so sometimes those waited a lot more
30:17 in that project and that was there's a
30:20 bit of an art in how we applied some of
30:22 these criteria
30:24 um we also heard feedback from this
30:26 board about accessibility and ability
30:28 for those who may be colorblind to see
30:31 red yellow and green and some of the
30:33 public information that's something
30:35 we've received I think as Susie prepares
30:36 the draft we're going to have colors but
30:39 we'll also have patterns associated with
30:40 the color so even if somebody can't
30:42 distinguish red yellow and green they'll
30:44 be able to see okay this pattern
30:46 um means essentially green this pattern
30:49 means essentially yellow so that should
30:50 help that and plus the metadata should
30:52 help improve the accessibility and
30:54 breathability of the color scheme even
30:57 for those that may be colored one
31:03 any questions so far
31:06 question about the long-standing
31:08 commitment yeah to the new thank you
31:10 yeah element and
31:14 if you could
31:16 trying to go back there we go yeah so um
31:19 that
31:21 to me I was
31:22 um I was thinking when I read when I
31:25 read through this that it would apply to
31:28 um perhaps like finished projects that
31:30 aren't quite finished or you know like
31:32 when we have like a particular phase at
31:35 a like in a master plan that like hasn't
31:38 been done so like the egg house would be
31:40 a perfect example of this right like
31:42 it's in a phase of a part that has
31:44 pretty much been complete the only part
31:48 of that master plan and that phasing
31:50 that hasn't been complete is that house
31:52 we have another phase of Confluence art
31:55 that we haven't you know that requires
31:57 removal of the shop and everything to in
31:59 order to activate but so in my mind it
32:02 would be nice to have
32:04 you know some some sort of priority like
32:06 that also reflected
32:08 um so that we are actually completing
32:10 the projects that we start and
32:13 you know not ending up with
32:15 um something that has languished and you
32:18 know
32:19 deteriorated in the meantime yeah I I
32:22 think that's a great comment and I'd
32:24 love to pass that on
32:27 top a little about
32:29 that this is something as we met with
32:32 the boards and talked about criteria
32:33 we'd also met with the city council and
32:36 they um really wanted to put something
32:37 in uh the criteria speaking to this
32:40 long-standing commitment we we asked
32:42 them to try to Define it a little
32:44 further they had some difficulty in the
32:47 moment doing it and what we settled on
32:49 was that they wanted us to come back
32:51 with a list of a prior commitments that
32:55 the city had made and then they would um
32:57 kind of discuss that list and choose
32:58 amongst that list and that conversation
33:01 is slated to happen in May at some point
33:05 um so they haven't defined it further
33:07 it's pretty nebulous
33:09 um we weren't really able to apply it
33:11 during kind of that staff process that
33:13 is something that city council is going
33:15 to weigh in on later but I would love to
33:17 cast on your comments then because I
33:18 think that that makes a lot of sense
33:20 yeah and I'm sure it's different in
33:22 every different part of the city but for
33:24 us it would be nice to you know there's
33:27 certain things that just keep getting
33:28 pushed and pushed and pushed and like
33:30 well at some point we need to do it yeah
33:32 yeah great thank you
33:35 just making note of that
33:38 great
33:40 uh so
33:44 uh a general overview for the CIP
33:47 overall not just parks and trails
33:50 projects but in general one of the
33:53 themes that we have is that there's a
33:54 lot more funding and attention and focus
33:57 on maintenance programs that we've had
33:59 in the past so we've been trying to make
34:03 sure that we're actually maintaining our
34:05 infrastructure I think one of the things
34:07 that director Watling may have said to
34:10 you in the past
34:12 is that you know our developments in
34:14 Issaquah a lot of our infrastructure not
34:17 just Parks a lot in streets
34:20 um and utilities uh was built privately
34:24 by private development and they
34:26 developed it but now it's been over 10
34:29 years since the school Highlands was
34:30 developed it's been over 10 years since
34:32 Dallas has developed and we're getting
34:34 to a place where
34:36 where we need to uh we don't have all
34:40 this new infrastructuring or we need to
34:41 maintain stuff that was built much of it
34:43 was built by other private development
34:45 Community originally
34:46 um of course we also have our own assets
34:48 that we've built a while ago and need to
34:50 maintain so um you and we're trying to
34:53 plan more and more for maintenance and
34:55 make sure we're doing a better job of
34:56 that so you'll see more funding more
34:58 Focus for maintenance programs in the
35:00 past and that was one of the criteria
35:02 that we had
35:03 um so you'll see a lot to address that
35:06 uh the CIP also responds to feedback
35:08 from the city council from the task
35:11 force that we should be making more
35:13 investments in our infrastructure
35:14 overall we need to maintain yes but also
35:17 build new this is a growing Community
35:21 and so they also wanted to make sure
35:23 that the plan was achievable and years
35:25 past we've bitten off a lot more than we
35:28 can chew in our efforts to be ambitious
35:30 and be responsive to feedback we've
35:32 heard from the community
35:34 um and this year we tried to take extra
35:36 care to say okay what do we have the
35:39 financial resources to do what also do
35:40 we have the people resources to do
35:43 um what where maybe are there issues
35:46 with supply chain because the global
35:47 supply chain is still complicated to
35:50 navigate these days and how is that
35:52 impacting our projects and what we're
35:54 able to get done so we tried to take a
35:56 look at all of those components we'll
35:57 also
35:58 again wanting to respond to feedback
36:02 that we need to make more Investments
36:04 um and as a result uh this CIP
36:07 anticipates new revenues and so I think
36:11 we heard public comments this evening
36:12 speaking to that that's absolutely right
36:15 um we have heard from the task force
36:18 from Council that this community wants
36:20 to talk about new revenues to fund
36:22 infrastructure so this CIP anticipates
36:25 that conversation for transportation as
36:29 the task force recommended that was the
36:32 first priority and So within this CIP we
36:35 will be asking a council to consider a
36:38 one percent uh sales tax for
36:41 transportation related projects I'm
36:43 sorry thank you 0.1 percent much smaller
36:47 than one percent thank you Susie I
36:50 appreciate that correction
36:52 0.1 there's a very big difference
36:56 um and that's something that we're going
36:58 to be talking to council about a lot
37:00 more moving forward we also need to take
37:03 a look at how to find under Public
37:04 Safety facilities municipal courts the
37:08 police station is busting at the seams
37:11 we have a fire station we need to build
37:13 there's some significant Public Safety
37:16 facility needs that we need to figure
37:18 out how to fund we'll be talking more
37:20 with Council about that as we move
37:22 forward and parks and trails so if you
37:24 took a look at that list and when those
37:27 lists of projects were planned in the
37:29 next six years you may have seen that
37:33 uh stability to the next life you may
37:36 have seen that a lot of those parks and
37:37 trails projects were listed for 2027
37:40 2028 2029 later years in the CIP and
37:44 this is because we are anticipating uh
37:48 potentially a public vote for new
37:51 Revenue to help pay for parks and trails
37:53 projects so we haven't planned out
37:56 exactly what that vote could look like
37:58 what exactly is in that package like
38:00 several years from now
38:02 um but that is something that we are
38:03 anticipating as trying to find a new
38:05 Revenue so that we can do more for parks
38:07 and trails and I think you've probably
38:09 heard
38:10 um follow-ups from the uh the task force
38:13 discussion there was some discussion
38:14 recommendation from the Community
38:17 Capital Finance task force on
38:19 Metropolitan Parks District uh that will
38:22 be something we'll be discussing more
38:23 but I wanted to make sure to highlight
38:25 that for you tonight that this this is
38:27 anticipated in the CIP that we want to
38:29 move that forward and have those
38:31 discussions in the next six years
38:33 um and really looking at that
38:35 2027-2028 uh years to contemplate that
38:40 um that's uh that's
38:43 pretty exciting and ambitious for us but
38:46 we've heard from the community that they
38:49 want more investments in public
38:51 infrastructure and so we're trying to
38:52 figure out how to respond to that and
38:54 how to pay for it
38:57 so CIP overview for parks and trails
39:00 specifically it follows the same theme
39:04 as the overall CIP so we have more
39:07 emphasis on maintenance and replacement
39:08 programs within the parks and trails CIP
39:12 um we're going to talk about those in
39:13 just a second but um so you'll see more
39:16 of that in parks and trails other than
39:19 that we have uh 20 parks and coil parks
39:22 and trails programs or projects
39:24 recommended in the six-year plan overall
39:26 and
39:28 um almost all Park and trail projects
39:31 scored high in the following criteria
39:34 Community priority community livability
39:36 and quality of life and replacement or
39:39 maintenance
39:40 and so we had some really a well-scoring
39:43 Park and trail projects
39:46 um and we already talked about how many
39:48 projects are planned for 2027 Plus
40:00 term 2024 to 2026 when we look at this
40:04 VIP it's a six-year plan
40:06 and we also have projects planned for
40:09 future out years Beyond those six years
40:10 because we want to be looking
40:12 um out as well but when it comes to
40:15 predicting the future the farther out
40:17 you go the harder it is to predict the
40:19 future and so we really try to make sure
40:21 that 2024 2025 2026 are pretty balanced
40:25 that we have revenues assigned to pay
40:28 for those that we have those pretty well
40:30 planned out
40:32 um so I in looking at those near-term
40:35 years within the six-year plan just
40:38 wanted to highlight for you what is in
40:40 store and what's in the plan for the
40:42 next couple of years and so this slide
40:45 is talking about all of those programs
40:47 that are more ongoing so most of these
40:51 are replacement or maintenance programs
40:53 as you can see from the name so park and
40:55 open space acquisition program that's an
40:57 ongoing program
41:00 um playground equipment Replacements
41:02 Park amenities life cycle Replacements
41:05 the creek Corridor
41:07 irrigation replacement and Trail repair
41:10 programs so a lot of these are
41:12 associated either with long-term ongoing
41:14 efforts such as acquisition or
41:17 maintenance and replacement and there
41:19 are more of those replacement programs
41:21 in this CIP for parks that were in the
41:24 past
41:26 uh then we have projects and so again
41:30 these are the near-term projects that
41:32 2024 to 2026
41:35 um so projects would be many of them
41:36 funded by arpa that you're familiar with
41:38 you've been talking a lot about these
41:39 lately Confluence card Veterans Memorial
41:42 Field Depot and pedestrian Park the
41:45 hillside loop trail East Sunset
41:47 Trailhead the way finding uh program
41:50 implementation and Rainier Trail so
41:52 these um these are the projects within
41:55 that very near term
41:57 and just for the sake of time today I
41:59 didn't want to list all of all 20
42:01 projects in the in the CIP it is in your
42:03 packet so you can take a look at the
42:05 rest if you haven't already so here's
42:07 where we are we um met earlier in this
42:11 year to refine those criteria
42:13 um we're here now in that uh space on
42:16 the timeline that's emboldened in Black
42:18 we're looking for board feedback and how
42:20 you feel the CIP the drafts VIP meets
42:24 the criteria
42:25 um then uh we take that feedback and
42:29 provide it to the council committees
42:30 they'll be meeting later on in May
42:33 um to review sections of the CIP so the
42:36 parks
42:37 um the Safety Services and Parks
42:40 committee will be meeting
42:41 uh in May and so I'd love to take your
42:44 feedback from you here today and present
42:46 that feedback to them in that meeting
42:48 and the council will have a couple of
42:49 meetings to discuss what's in the CIP
42:52 first they're gonna those Council
42:53 committees are going to focus on their
42:55 specific infrastructure like I said
42:57 Safety Services and Parks we'll take a
42:58 look at parks
43:00 um and safety related infrastructure
43:03 um then we have you know mobility and
43:05 infrastructure for example we'll take a
43:06 look at Transportation infrastructure
43:09 Etc so I'd love to take your feedback
43:11 provide it to the city council
43:13 committees who will deliberate more and
43:15 discuss more then we have Cal which
43:18 stands for committee of the whole uh to
43:20 discuss the entire CIP together and try
43:23 to balance out the different uh
43:25 infrastructure categories like Parks
43:27 Transportation facilities Etc
43:30 let me look to council adoption by July
43:33 1st so that's the next steps and where
43:36 we are are there any questions before we
43:39 get to the discussion section
43:44 yeah real quick
43:46 the process of evaluating all the items
43:50 has already been completed now it's
43:52 recommendation time
43:54 yes so the process for evaluating items
43:56 was completed by the administration
43:58 internally as we tried to
44:00 come
44:02 create the CIP and so we're looking for
44:05 feedback from you on did we do a good
44:07 job did we miss something glaring how
44:09 did that go
44:10 then I do have a question that kind of
44:12 relates back to the previous uh one of
44:14 the items that was discussed during that
44:16 multi-board meeting was
44:19 wow when people were looking at the red
44:21 green red yellow green approach and
44:24 based on experience
44:27 and then also maybe
44:29 newer
44:31 perspectives that need to be applied or
44:33 ought to be applied there was the
44:35 recommendation of maybe doing like a
44:37 negative two to a positive two so that
44:39 you could
44:42 project that could go forward that red
44:44 might seem seems like a zero right now
44:46 but something that like a transportation
44:49 project is important but it has
44:51 potentially negative environmental
44:53 impact and that that needs to be
44:55 considered
44:56 alternatively uh you know many Park
44:59 projects may not have a transportation
45:01 value or something like that and so
45:04 there was a desire for some of that so I
45:07 guess I'm wondering if you could provide
45:09 a little insight on how you applied the
45:11 red yellow green to projects that may
45:15 have an actual negative impact on a
45:17 different Criterion
45:20 yeah so I think we looked at the balance
45:23 of the criteria as a whole
45:27 so if you look in your packet there's an
45:29 attachment that talks about the sixth
45:31 year the projects that are within the
45:33 six-year CIP and it shows how each of
45:36 them ranked with the criteria red yellow
45:38 green so you'll see a red yellow and
45:40 green value for each of those criteria
45:42 and projects and so you can see where
45:47 the projects stand in terms of how many
45:49 have read how many have green Etc so we
45:51 looked at that to place them within that
45:54 six year time frame and
45:57 um they were assigned at the time uh
46:01 some numerical values of one two and
46:03 three and then we were able to use that
46:06 as a starting Place knowing that
46:09 um that was really the start of the
46:10 conversation right so if something
46:12 scored a certain number we wanted to
46:13 take a look at that and say okay what
46:16 does that mean though given how how much
46:19 we know uh
46:21 of you know staff time can we really get
46:24 this done what does that mean in
46:25 relation to on some of the task force
46:27 recommendations what does that mean
46:30 um in relation to this is a life safety
46:32 issue how urgent of a life safety issue
46:34 is it it could be a life safety issue
46:37 and uh in
46:40 2026 but maybe not in 2025 right so we
46:44 kind of need to weigh all these things
46:45 and that's where sometimes the math
46:46 doesn't uh doesn't really help us so we
46:50 use it as a starting place but not uh as
46:52 a as an ending Place does that does that
46:54 help answer your question
46:56 yeah I think maybe it's something to
46:58 consider the next time around this time
47:01 okay
47:04 and I feel like asante's going to give
47:06 me the hook because I think I'm going
47:07 over
47:09 um but I don't want to shortchange any
47:11 questions or discussion
47:15 um I have a question Andrew yes so
47:18 looking at the plan today and the list
47:20 of projects it seems like we are
47:24 scoring the lowest blood climate
47:26 resiliency or environmental benefit so
47:30 for a city that distributed then it's
47:32 identity nature with a also adopting
47:36 that climate action plan in 2021 with a
47:39 plan that encompasses multiple years the
47:44 this the administration feel like it's
47:46 not sending a strong message wrong in
47:49 its climate initiatives with how it
47:52 reflects in the list of projects that
47:55 they presented
47:57 that's a wonderful wonderful question
47:59 and I think having the criteria
48:02 I think it helps us look at these
48:05 projects from that lens and see that is
48:08 surprising to me when I saw the results
48:11 of that and maybe Jen you want to talk a
48:12 little bit more about how you looked at
48:15 the criteria to score some of these
48:17 projects with the environment and then
48:19 we can talk about you know completely
48:20 answer your questions in that bigger
48:22 picture
48:23 and looking at the which projects really
48:26 in that climate resiliency
48:28 um and environmental benefit that's
48:30 scored negatively those two projects
48:32 were wayfindings and signage
48:34 implementation as well as the hillside
48:36 Loop work drill
48:38 um wayfinding that's mostly facility
48:42 signage directional signage there really
48:45 isn't a
48:46 an impact other than in the
48:48 manufacturing of it so not always is a
48:52 red deemed a negative it just may not
48:54 apply and so therefore it is a negative
48:59 um Hillside loop trail
49:04 there's already social Trails within
49:06 Hillside Park and formalizing some of
49:08 those or expanding them really isn't
49:10 doing a detriment to the environment nor
49:12 is it
49:14 enhancing it in all the same so there
49:17 really wasn't like a net zero on that
49:19 which is why it scored as a negative
49:22 because there wasn't any new benefit out
49:24 of it so it's not necessarily a bad
49:26 thing for something to have a negative
49:28 it just may not apply or it may just be
49:31 um a Nuance of that individual project
49:34 like you know furthering existing social
49:37 Trails widening a trail you may actually
49:40 end up adding some understory plantings
49:42 but as overall when you look at kind of
49:44 the big picture of that project
49:46 environmental impact isn't a real
49:49 large factor and I yes and I would add
49:53 on to that that because this community
49:55 really values uh protecting the
49:58 environment and enhancing the
50:00 environment where we can we have that
50:02 criteria threshold to get a green is
50:05 very high
50:06 um it means that the project
50:09 prevents or corrects detrimental impact
50:12 to vital habitat ecosystems naturally
50:14 Source or it prevents or corrects
50:17 contributions to climate change so
50:19 that's a really high bar whereas in
50:21 comparison the red and what what what
50:23 approachable score Red it means it has
50:25 no environmental impact not that it has
50:28 a detrimental impact right so something
50:30 scores red it's not because it's hurting
50:32 the environment it's just neutral so
50:35 that's a really high bar and so given
50:37 how high of a bar we've set I think that
50:41 um it's it's not uh very concerning that
50:45 many of the park projects scored a
50:47 yellow because to score a yellow is
50:48 pretty good I think
50:51 um and that it reduces a detrimental
50:54 impact or provides a benefit to vital
50:56 habitat ecosystem natural resource so it
50:59 has some positive effects so it has it
51:01 has some environmental benefit when it's
51:03 score of the yellow and that was most of
51:05 the park projects and I think that's a
51:07 pretty good story to tell we do have
51:09 projects that are in the city that
51:12 um are
51:13 needing an even higher bar and
51:15 prevention or correcting detrimental
51:17 impact
51:18 um it's just so yellow is a pretty good
51:20 score I think
51:22 yeah great
51:29 um any any so any other questions or we
51:33 can move on to the
51:35 um feedback portion discussion portion
51:38 for tonight
51:39 I also don't want to ignore our friends
51:41 who are joining us virtually making sure
51:42 there's no fans that I haven't seen okay
51:45 as far as if there are surprises for
51:48 what's in a six-year plan I was and
51:50 maybe this is not quite on this topic
51:51 but um the improvements to Harvey
51:54 management Park I wasn't sure what
51:58 yeah that's in a current
52:02 CIP the 23. so the funding's in this
52:06 year so it's not shown in the 24th so
52:09 it's still an active project it's just
52:11 not in this 24 to 29 period okay
52:15 and what are those improvements is that
52:18 like just connecting Trails connecting
52:21 Trails yeah through the park over to Big
52:24 Ridge tree Trail and then up to Harvey
52:26 Manning Park as well creating neutrals
52:29 and um
52:30 Crossing some of the
52:32 waterways in there when that is
52:34 completed is it going to bring Regional
52:37 traffic to park at that park for
52:40 hiking purposes yes and also up to
52:43 Harvard Medical Park as well as the yeah
52:45 that's what I mean like are people going
52:47 to drive to Harvey Manny Park as a
52:50 Trailhead no we're actually promoting
52:52 Tibbetts Valley Park a park and ride as
52:54 main access through their part of the
52:56 delay and getting that is
52:58 um in order to provide Trail connections
53:01 we need to be able to provide safe
53:03 pedestrian access along Newport and so
53:05 we've had some challenges in
53:07 um in further exploring what our options
53:09 are to to do that work okay I just went
53:12 down to this packaging yes
53:17 great so any any other any feedback
53:23 um on how we applied the criteria
53:27 any changes we should consider I heard
53:30 uh Chris kobach you mentioned again for
53:34 maybe we should consider changing how
53:35 we've graded them in terms of using a
53:37 more numerical system something
53:41 um that's a bit more nuanced
53:43 yeah I think you know just to add to it
53:45 based on experience going through some
53:47 of these red yellow green analyzes and
53:51 there's some things that are well it's a
53:53 zero kind of like the signed program
53:55 it's really does happen
53:58 it's inconsequential environmentally but
54:01 something else like a parking lot would
54:03 have a negative impact and might need
54:06 some other you know mitigation to offset
54:09 that or something so that's I think
54:11 where that idea was coming from to allow
54:14 for that kind of consideration
54:16 okay I think one other question I have
54:19 for um is or feedback is um
54:23 these criteria I'm not sure how well
54:26 they allow you to sort of prioritize our
54:29 project that's necessary to have another
54:31 project done or you know like in order
54:34 to sort of phase projects and so as an
54:37 example of that I'll like there are you
54:40 know we keep talking about doing a
54:41 master plan for Tibbetts Valley Park and
54:44 as well as doing some kind of Veterans
54:46 Memorial Field those those Parks have
54:48 six baseball fields on them and we know
54:51 that
54:52 um likely based on the master planning
54:54 stuff we started a couple years ago
54:56 before covid that um the number of
54:59 baseball fields that would probably
55:01 happen at Tibbetts will be strong
55:03 and the answer to that is probably
55:07 um fixing the the Little League fields
55:10 at Central Park which are not the proper
55:13 size nor do they drain so anyway in
55:16 order to sort of do that strategically
55:17 one would if you know if you're planning
55:20 yourself you would say okay well I'm
55:22 going to fix those Central Park ones
55:24 first so that you know as we deal with
55:27 the other Parks we can do that more so
55:28 anyway that's just an example of
55:30 something that I don't know how well
55:32 this existing criteria captures that and
55:36 it might be into something else that
55:37 should you know bump like you might want
55:39 to try to bump something if you'll
55:41 remember excuse me if I jump in here in
55:44 the park strategic plan uh we did do
55:46 kind of a project prioritization within
55:49 that there was a checklist and then
55:51 there was kind of a oh once you get into
55:53 that project an additional checklist so
55:55 I think that might address some of that
55:57 preliminary life which should come first
55:59 chicken or the egg kind of thing or some
56:02 of these projects but I don't is that
56:05 part of this what that did what that did
56:07 though is because these are near term to
56:11 Mid early midterm projects because we
56:14 checked off a lot of our early or early
56:16 term projects so we're starting to get
56:20 into the last of those and into our
56:21 midterms now well as we go into our new
56:24 park strategic Plan update should in
56:26 that engagement new projects arise we
56:29 run through that criteria again and
56:32 re-categorize the priorities of all of
56:34 the different projects within there and
56:36 so we may have new early term projects
56:39 new midterm projects and new long-term
56:41 projects and then that will update feed
56:44 the next update of the park CIT so we're
56:48 kind of in mid process right now
56:49 functioning from the existing Park
56:51 strategic plan but as we get ready to
56:54 roll into the next one we may see some
56:56 jostling in two years when we update
56:58 this again some of those projects
57:00 getting re-prioritized as to what's a
57:04 near-term project versus a midterm
57:06 project yeah I guess my my my point
57:09 being I don't think that obvious
57:10 criteria you know when we're like
57:12 braiding things red yellow or green that
57:15 that that were that we capture
57:18 you know capture that prioritization
57:21 that might need to happen that we all
57:23 kind of know that needs to happen yeah
57:24 but if we're trying to actually you know
57:27 like I think that would actually be
57:29 applied a little bit I think we can do
57:31 some work in the clarity of the
57:33 prioritization within the park strategic
57:35 plan because then when it goes from
57:37 let's say there's five near-term
57:39 projects which one is first out of the
57:42 gate
57:43 maybe due to funding availability or
57:47 timing of projects or other work that's
57:49 getting done in the neighborhood or you
57:51 know a lot of other different factors
57:52 could play into that permitting process
57:55 um so there may be some ways in the park
57:59 strategic plan we could further filter
58:02 and prioritize some of those projects
58:04 Because by the time it comes to this
58:06 it's more of a funding what we can
58:08 realistically do within each year
58:10 because where there are finite dollars
58:12 within each of these years that we try
58:14 and juggle what can get done and so
58:16 sometimes though it's a near term if
58:18 there just isn't a budget it might get
58:19 pushed out a year but I think I think I
58:22 think it's a really good point and I
58:24 want to make sure to capture this
58:25 feedback because I think it's something
58:27 that we can be thoughtful and consider
58:29 during the strategic planning process
58:31 but also incorporate in the criteria for
58:34 the CIP as well to think about it as for
58:37 systems planning and how things relate
58:40 to each other and that isn't illicitly
58:43 captured in our criteria you're
58:45 absolutely correct so when you look at
58:47 it it's just like you know all these
58:49 things are kind of like near-term
58:50 projects it's like well one of them
58:52 might be more important than another
58:54 four reasons that aren't necessarily
58:56 captured here so and yeah anyway thank
58:58 you it's it's a good point because
59:00 something that maybe doesn't score as
59:02 well in in uh I don't know Community
59:05 priority you know but it supports some
59:08 it's necessary or it should be necessary
59:10 for tab and that's that maybe scores
59:12 better you know we need to consider all
59:14 of that together so I I think um I'd
59:16 love to pass that feedback on to council
59:19 thanks thank you
59:21 great
59:23 any other feedback
59:30 okay
59:31 well thank you very much
59:34 um I appreciate this so what I would
59:36 like to do when your feedback I've taken
59:38 copious amounts of notes
59:40 um if it's okay with you I'd just like
59:42 to incorporate that into my memo to city
59:45 council that will include the feedback
59:47 we've gathered from all of the boards uh
59:51 about the CIP so that's one option is
59:55 that I can incorporate that into my
59:57 materials for Council if you as a board
1:00:00 felt more strongly you wanted to convey
1:00:01 the message yourself then another option
1:00:03 would be for you to draft a letter with
1:00:05 this feedback and you can send it to
1:00:06 council directly if that's your
1:00:08 preference so I look to the board for
1:00:10 guidance on how you want your feedback
1:00:12 to be communicated to city council
1:00:15 okay um just I guess a quick show of
1:00:19 hands
1:00:20 um is there interest in uh perhaps
1:00:23 drafting a a letter as a board
1:00:27 um to be sent to council
1:00:32 I mean we haven't really actually did we
1:00:34 say the draft cfp is actually coming out
1:00:36 in May 1st so to me it feels premature
1:00:40 to be given informal feedback at this
1:00:42 point in the form of a memo that we
1:00:45 would prepare you would I would think
1:00:47 you'd want to do that after it actually
1:00:48 comes out
1:00:51 I think with respect to you know
1:00:54 reflecting on the criteria and how
1:00:56 they're apply it I think as long as
1:00:58 you're taking the notes and we'll
1:01:00 deliver on the fact that would be
1:01:01 adequate for me okay
1:01:03 okay is everyone okay with uh sending
1:01:07 Andrea uh submit the feedback that she
1:01:10 received at the meeting today
1:01:12 um by a show of hands if that's okay
1:01:22 well thank you very much I appreciate
1:01:25 your time today and allowing
1:01:27 um us to present so thank you for that
1:01:29 thank you thank you
1:01:32 all right
1:01:34 um so
1:01:35 uh looking forward to their Community
1:01:37 investment strategy project update for
1:01:40 uh influence on the back house
1:01:47 when I want to um first invite
1:01:50 [Music]
1:01:51 um within team to internet cameras on uh
1:01:55 today we have with us uh Christian and
1:01:59 Amelia and Charlie from
1:02:03 um probably recognize these faces
1:02:05 they've been here a time or two
1:02:08 um to help us with
1:02:12 our presentation on the park board so
1:02:14 give me just one minute here for this
1:02:17 house while I do a quick screen share
1:02:24 I still couldn't get my webcam to work
1:02:26 so um apologies to everybody
1:02:29 that's quite all right
1:02:34 all right can everyone see this
1:02:37 presentation
1:02:41 okay great
1:02:43 uh so thank you we are here to provide
1:02:46 you an update
1:02:48 um on the community investment strategy
1:02:50 um Confluence Park eckhouse project
1:02:56 wow kind of taking a step back some of
1:02:58 our goals for this project were
1:03:02 um to restore the eckhouse and to better
1:03:05 connect it to the Confluence Park as a
1:03:07 public amenity
1:03:09 and we also want to as a whole winter
1:03:13 sign mentioned in a public comment we
1:03:15 want to recognize and celebrate the
1:03:16 history of the eckhouse and thank you
1:03:18 for bringing forward some uh wonderful
1:03:21 facts we look forward to including those
1:03:24 um and also include some possible
1:03:27 landmarking of the egg house
1:03:32 so with this I'm gonna pass it over to
1:03:35 Charlie Abel uh this is the architect on
1:03:39 the project to kind of walk through what
1:03:42 some of our scoping and our project
1:03:44 phasing was uh for this project as well
1:03:48 as some of the discovery
1:03:51 thank you so much
1:03:53 um and yeah quick disclaimer right off
1:03:55 the bat you know this is really focused
1:03:58 on scope and phasing it's not a design
1:04:00 presentation we're not putting you know
1:04:02 true proposed design proposals together
1:04:05 um I think there are like two key themes
1:04:08 here uh casting a wide net
1:04:11 um and also trying to think big we we
1:04:14 recognize it's easier to kind of roll
1:04:16 things back and scale things down but we
1:04:18 wanted to kind of start with a big
1:04:19 Vision up front uh and see where it felt
1:04:22 right so
1:04:24 um jumping right in one of the first
1:04:26 things that we did is really kind of
1:04:27 created a big long wish list of what are
1:04:31 all the different things that could go
1:04:32 into the various elements of this
1:04:35 project so we broke it up into the
1:04:36 eckhouse the Wash House Shelter and
1:04:39 Plaza potential future play area and
1:04:42 really tried to go through the
1:04:43 nitty-gritty of what might be involved
1:04:44 so everything from
1:04:46 utility upgrades to paint any exterior
1:04:49 we even tried to
1:04:51 um categorize things as minor options or
1:04:54 major options so for example on an
1:04:56 interior renovation you could simply
1:04:58 clean up the interior or you could go
1:05:00 all the way to demolishing all the
1:05:02 interior walls and leaving just the
1:05:05 shell of the building to kind of create
1:05:07 a big dramatic double height volume so
1:05:09 again trying to think big and casting a
1:05:11 wide net
1:05:13 next slide
1:05:15 so at the same time we were also trying
1:05:18 to think through some of the paths to
1:05:21 getting to any one of those specific
1:05:25 um items and specifically there are a
1:05:27 couple big triggers right away so
1:05:29 landmarking versus not landmarking the
1:05:32 process looks quite different depending
1:05:34 on which of those two strategies you
1:05:36 take some of the options might look
1:05:38 similar but the the path is very
1:05:40 different so for example in landmarking
1:05:44 um you could preserve the house and
1:05:46 create this new public amenity and
1:05:48 landmarking not only helps preserve uh
1:05:51 the history of of the space uh in a
1:05:54 really kind of official way but it also
1:05:56 potentially unlocks additional funding
1:05:58 uh alternatively no landmarking could
1:06:01 really uh provide a lot of flexibility
1:06:04 you could demolish the house and either
1:06:06 create a rep replica using modern
1:06:08 construction techniques or create
1:06:11 something entirely fresh and new
1:06:13 um but you potentially lose those
1:06:16 additional funding opportunities and you
1:06:19 potentially uh you know lose some of
1:06:22 that history if you go the the
1:06:24 demolition route so again casting a wide
1:06:26 net trying to understand all these
1:06:29 variations uh as we move forward next
1:06:32 slide
1:06:33 and so part of the reason for that wide
1:06:36 net is that the eckhouse does have some
1:06:39 issues as you can see in the upper left
1:06:41 the foundations are literally tree
1:06:44 stumps uh sitting on uh old concrete
1:06:49 um it's stable as is that's not to say
1:06:52 this is somehow dangerous but if you do
1:06:54 go the route of uh trying to turn this
1:06:56 into a public amenity to be occupied by
1:07:00 um groups of people uh the foundations
1:07:02 need to be upgraded this is not safe for
1:07:05 assembly type usages as people have
1:07:08 noted there was also a fire at some
1:07:10 point and so the one of the porches was
1:07:12 destroyed as well as the fire spreading
1:07:15 and destroying some of the interior uh
1:07:17 flooring and at some point in The
1:07:20 house's history one of the exterior
1:07:22 porches was enclosed and the
1:07:25 preservation
1:07:26 Representatives made it clear that
1:07:28 returning this to its original kind of
1:07:31 exterior porch configuration is
1:07:33 something that they're very interested
1:07:35 in so all these kind of little different
1:07:36 components
1:07:38 um are have been factored into any of
1:07:41 the options next slide
1:07:45 so our a e team uh did an assessment of
1:07:50 the different uh elements so
1:07:52 specifically at a high level if again
1:07:54 you change the use
1:07:57 um in order to make a public amenity you
1:07:59 need to change the use from residential
1:08:00 to an assembly space uh the foundations
1:08:03 would therefore need to be upgraded and
1:08:05 the structure needs to be stabilized the
1:08:08 seismic system would likely need to be
1:08:10 upgraded there are some very nuanced
1:08:12 triggers here depending on how far we go
1:08:15 with any of these options but generally
1:08:18 speaking there are likely seismic
1:08:19 upgrades
1:08:21 um we have been exploring the
1:08:23 possibility of fully opening up that
1:08:26 interior space to maximize its
1:08:28 flexibility and maximize the amount of
1:08:32 um for the interior essentially creating
1:08:35 a large double height shell and then
1:08:37 retaining the historic elements
1:08:40 that do still exist with the renovation
1:08:43 next slide
1:08:45 um similarly the King County historic
1:08:47 preservation group uh provided us with
1:08:51 their feedback so uh tying that in
1:08:54 together they made it clear that the
1:08:56 exterior shell to them is what has the
1:08:58 historic value
1:09:00 um the interior has gone through a lot
1:09:02 of Renovations over time and most of
1:09:04 that historic character has been lost so
1:09:07 that's actually kind of good news for uh
1:09:10 allowing Issaquah to sort of do whatever
1:09:12 they want
1:09:13 um functionally with the interior of the
1:09:16 space similarly the porches in the front
1:09:18 entry have a lot of historic value the
1:09:21 windows while they've been replaced with
1:09:23 vinyl could be uh uh replaced again with
1:09:27 wood and there might be additional
1:09:28 funding available for that type of
1:09:30 change the back of the house I.E the
1:09:33 west side that faces the park is not a
1:09:36 historic priority
1:09:37 uh and so this would be the opportunity
1:09:39 to make connections to the park open it
1:09:42 up uh potentially uh situate a new
1:09:46 Pavilion adjacent to it because this is
1:09:49 a as you've seen a pretty blank facade
1:09:52 not a lot of historic character
1:09:54 um the improvements to that backspace
1:09:56 would need to maintain a minor
1:09:57 separation they they really like to make
1:10:00 it clear to the public what is new and
1:10:02 what is original and historic and then
1:10:05 they are open to engaging in a design
1:10:07 process and possible landmarking after
1:10:09 the restoration so there's potentially
1:10:11 some play in terms of how we sequence
1:10:13 things
1:10:15 uh so just kind of overall picture
1:10:17 starting on the right um you know that's
1:10:19 the the eckhouse proper and we're sort
1:10:21 of seeing that as one piece of scope uh
1:10:24 in the middle is the shelter plasoscope
1:10:26 so uh again these aren't design
1:10:29 presentations necessarily just trying to
1:10:31 capture the Scopes of the shelter
1:10:32 potentially the Wash House and the plaza
1:10:35 area and then at some point maybe in the
1:10:38 future uh play area but you can see
1:10:40 that's dashed in so that is not really a
1:10:42 part of this discussion uh for this
1:10:44 scoping
1:10:46 um so as as people have talked about you
1:10:49 know we're we're also throwing out some
1:10:50 basic ideas here for what this could be
1:10:54 um coming back to my disclaimer big wide
1:10:57 net here and trying to think big and
1:11:00 these are not design proposals these are
1:11:03 merely meant to say okay if we did
1:11:05 something how many people could you fit
1:11:07 in here and what might this look like
1:11:10 um all of these studies assume that kind
1:11:13 of big vision of what if we demolish the
1:11:15 second floor what if we remove all the
1:11:18 interior walls essentially just have a
1:11:20 big double height shell that allows us
1:11:22 for the most flexibility over time and
1:11:26 these studies also don't include any of
1:11:29 the other proposals you just saw of the
1:11:32 outdoor Pavilion they don't address code
1:11:34 they don't address accessibility that
1:11:37 all comes later these are really just to
1:11:39 give you a sense of scale and
1:11:41 possibilities so next slide
1:11:44 so we kind of have three main
1:11:46 um uh options lined up one could be a an
1:11:50 art or exhibition Gallery focused on
1:11:52 local artists
1:11:54 um and the community
1:11:55 excuse me
1:11:57 um and you can see how in plan that
1:11:59 might work where you could have the
1:12:00 trains and seating uh clustered in the
1:12:04 center with artwork around the perimeter
1:12:08 and it actually works quite well in
1:12:10 terms of the distances that you'd want
1:12:11 to have for optimal uh art viewing and
1:12:15 connections to some of those exterior
1:12:17 porches for kind of an indoor outdoor
1:12:19 feel next slide
1:12:22 you could also consider this for dining
1:12:25 or reception so think a retirement party
1:12:28 or a football fundraiser
1:12:31 um things of that nature or even a
1:12:33 wedding reception for example and so
1:12:36 this might lay out where you'd have
1:12:38 um there's no we're not proposing a
1:12:40 kitchen here this would just be uh
1:12:42 exterior food brought in from the
1:12:44 exterior catered food laid out on a
1:12:47 buffet to the left with all of your
1:12:49 seating to the right and this totals
1:12:52 roughly 40 to 50 seats
1:12:54 um and you'll find in the other option
1:12:56 too that's kind of The Sweet Spot in
1:12:58 terms of the the sort of capacity of
1:13:00 this space next slide
1:13:02 and then the last one we're proposing
1:13:05 here is Speaker music or ceremony venues
1:13:08 so this could be a local violin uh
1:13:11 player this could be a poetry reading
1:13:12 this could be an actual wedding ceremony
1:13:15 next slide and so this is showing more
1:13:18 of that uh lecture type format where
1:13:21 you'd have the speaker over on the right
1:13:23 you'd have presentation screens uh all
1:13:26 the seating Focus there again this is
1:13:28 right around 50 people so that number
1:13:30 seems to keep popping up in terms of
1:13:32 capacity you could have a bar to the
1:13:34 left a check-in desk and again we could
1:13:36 open up that left side facing the park
1:13:40 to create a connection to the play area
1:13:42 to the plaza to a potential outdoor
1:13:45 Pavilion to create a flow between inside
1:13:49 Space outside space
1:13:51 and those are the three options
1:14:00 so I know uh Jeff went and spoke with
1:14:03 the Issaquah History Museum last week
1:14:06 um as we've been working with the ad hoc
1:14:09 group as well and other others
1:14:13 we have a recommended approach of doing
1:14:16 this in two phases
1:14:18 um phase one as Charlie referenced would
1:14:21 first be done for us to focus the uh on
1:14:25 the plazas and the outdoor spaces
1:14:28 um this we could complete with the
1:14:30 existing arpa funds
1:14:33 um within the current budget and within
1:14:35 the required timelines of the arpa
1:14:37 funding I think that's something we
1:14:39 really need to keep in mind is that the
1:14:42 funding needs to be used by the end of
1:14:46 um and thanks to her house restoration
1:14:48 because of the historic nature of the
1:14:51 building
1:14:52 um if we continue down the landmarking
1:14:56 path make ensuring we can
1:15:00 um honor the history of the building it
1:15:02 is going to take a little more time to
1:15:04 develop the plans to do the landmarking
1:15:06 and to get everything in line in order
1:15:09 to not only fund but also construct that
1:15:14 building
1:15:15 so we're recommending that be a phase
1:15:18 two for future but we could also use
1:15:22 that time to seek some grant
1:15:24 opportunities if we were to proceed with
1:15:26 landmarking find some other grants to
1:15:30 help us with some of the systems as
1:15:31 Charlie mentioned retaining the porches
1:15:34 ensuring time period windows that are
1:15:38 wood clotted not vinyl are installed and
1:15:41 really making sure we can spend the time
1:15:43 on the details that to help honor the
1:15:45 history
1:15:47 and then once we complete the
1:15:49 restoration we'd be working with the
1:15:52 King County preservation during the
1:15:53 design process and then once the
1:15:55 restoration was complete we'd go through
1:15:57 the formal landmarking process
1:16:01 so what that would look like is we'd
1:16:04 really concentrate on this outside area
1:16:06 here as phase one
1:16:09 and then the restoration as phase two
1:16:16 some preliminary costs um just a
1:16:19 reminder we have 800 000 allocated for
1:16:22 this project some early egg house
1:16:26 restoration costs are around a million
1:16:29 to 1.2 depending upon a few unknowns at
1:16:34 this time and when the work would get
1:16:39 um but we do have some great this is a
1:16:41 wonderful project to seek some grant
1:16:43 opportunities and funding sources for
1:16:46 um so I think uh what we would actually
1:16:49 pay would be much less than that um
1:16:52 because I think we'd be able to do some
1:16:54 uh fundraising and be a great candidate
1:16:57 for for Grants
1:17:01 so with that
1:17:03 we'd love to hear any discussion and
1:17:06 feedback from the board
1:17:09 an ad hoc if you want to add anything to
1:17:11 please feel free to chime in at this
1:17:16 uh I definitely support this this um
1:17:21 this proposal it
1:17:23 um especially in lieu of the concept of
1:17:25 tearing it down and doing a picnic
1:17:27 shelter
1:17:28 um this is much more in line with what
1:17:31 um the master plan had and that we
1:17:33 talked about when we adopted the master
1:17:36 um back then we really talked about
1:17:39 having a house being available for
1:17:42 Community use so for classes or for kind
1:17:45 of like rental space meeting space
1:17:48 um and this seems to sort of to hit that
1:17:50 I would hope that you'd have and I also
1:17:53 really like Paul's suggestion of um uh
1:17:56 looking at the trail house as you know
1:17:59 so we used to have our parkour meetings
1:18:00 in the trail house and people haven't
1:18:02 been there it's a great place to to look
1:18:04 and see how you know how that you could
1:18:07 just open up a space and have it be a
1:18:10 little bit more modern inside I really
1:18:11 hope that we'd have a bathroom in there
1:18:14 um I don't know if that was yeah we've
1:18:15 kind of talked about the Wash House even
1:18:17 with the historic Center that if we
1:18:19 could make that an outdoor restroom that
1:18:23 would serve the building it would be
1:18:24 outside but thinking that the Wash House
1:18:26 could be converted yes yeah it just
1:18:28 seems like you need something yeah
1:18:30 especially for the playground or that
1:18:31 but yeah
1:18:33 great point so I'm much happier about
1:18:36 this than the original kind of proposals
1:18:39 that came out a few months ago
1:18:42 I'm Brad
1:18:45 uh thanks actually I kind of support
1:18:48 what Danielle just had to say but I'll
1:18:49 just kind of add on to that
1:18:52 you know one thing it's a little hard
1:18:55 for me to understand how it's going to
1:18:56 take a million dollars to restore this
1:18:58 house you know all of us that have homes
1:19:01 that we insure for total losses
1:19:04 you know look in the neighborhood of 250
1:19:08 300 a square foot you know that house
1:19:10 isn't probably any larger than a
1:19:12 thousand square feet which makes it like
1:19:14 a thousand dollars a square foot for
1:19:16 restoration so it's hard for me to
1:19:19 to understand the numbers for that
1:19:22 but that being said I know there's a lot
1:19:24 more that has to go into it because of
1:19:26 it being
1:19:27 um you know a commercial property to
1:19:29 some extent
1:19:30 you know I do have some issues with the
1:19:33 playground concept
1:19:35 um as something that Connie pointed out
1:19:37 and I actually had an opportunity to
1:19:39 take a Light review of the master plan
1:19:43 um it does show that that Confluence
1:19:46 Park is designed for uh passive
1:19:49 Recreation and it's questionable whether
1:19:51 or not a you know a an increased
1:19:54 playground would be considered a passive
1:19:57 playground or or passive Recreation I
1:20:00 would think that's to be more active
1:20:02 Recreation so I think we need to be very
1:20:04 careful about what's done in that regard
1:20:07 um you know I guess my last point is you
1:20:09 know we talk a lot about history
1:20:11 and um
1:20:14 you know when I look through the master
1:20:16 plan there's an awful lot of historical
1:20:18 information in there
1:20:19 uh and yet I find that we have a huge
1:20:23 missed opportunity for presenting
1:20:26 historical information to the community
1:20:28 you know when I look at the Anderson
1:20:30 Farmhouse and what was done there
1:20:33 um you know I like what was done there
1:20:35 but when you know for a person to go
1:20:37 there would have no clue uh regarding
1:20:40 the history of that area and so I you
1:20:43 know I would really like to see us add
1:20:46 in to some of these proposals some uh
1:20:49 historical interpretive elements to both
1:20:53 um Anderson and Eck uh so that that
1:20:56 history can be preserved and
1:20:58 communicated to the community
1:21:01 and right now none of that is done and
1:21:05 and I don't really see any of that in
1:21:06 any of these proposals that that's that
1:21:08 that is an element to consider so that's
1:21:11 just one more thing that I'd like to put
1:21:13 out there but overall I do like the um
1:21:16 preservation on this new phase issue I'm
1:21:21 a little off on the cost but I do think
1:21:23 the phase one phase two makes some sense
1:21:25 I do have some concerns like Corey said
1:21:28 to have a 800 000
1:21:31 um uh you know our area you know next to
1:21:34 a house that is dilapidated and who
1:21:38 knows when we're ever going to have the
1:21:39 funding uh to fix that
1:21:41 um so I to me it would be nice if we
1:21:45 could actually restore the house uh as a
1:21:48 part of the of the arpa money
1:21:51 um and um but I realize that that's
1:21:54 challenging in terms of of timing
1:21:58 those are my comments thank you
1:22:01 Brad I just want to quickly address your
1:22:04 concerns regarding
1:22:06 um interpretive elements and historic
1:22:09 when we met with King County uh historic
1:22:12 preservation that was one of the big
1:22:14 topics we had with them and I'm sorry if
1:22:17 that wasn't translated today because
1:22:19 we're really talking about
1:22:22 different uses of space and different
1:22:24 projects but that how we include history
1:22:28 as part of the landmarking process and
1:22:31 the restoration process was huge they
1:22:34 really want us to emphasize the um
1:22:38 farming history of this space and also
1:22:43 the important features of the building
1:22:45 as well as other history with it so
1:22:48 definitely as we get into further
1:22:51 designing the EC house and further
1:22:54 designing the patio space digging into
1:22:56 that history is definitely going to be
1:22:58 part of the storytelling of this entire
1:23:01 space and restoration
1:23:03 thanks for that Clarity Jen maybe we can
1:23:06 take some of that further uh before the
1:23:08 Anderson Farmhouse as well
1:23:16 I want to respond to the um Brad to the
1:23:19 comment about the um the passive use
1:23:22 versus active at the at the park and my
1:23:25 recollection is that the majority of
1:23:28 that space that it has been developed a
1:23:30 conference was acquired with monies that
1:23:33 required it to be passive
1:23:36 um because it was Creekside purchases
1:23:37 and whatnot but then that corner of the
1:23:41 um and the way that we acquired the
1:23:43 eckhouse and that property was with
1:23:46 different money and so that actually did
1:23:48 not have the same sort of restrictions
1:23:51 um and could be active and then I want
1:23:53 to remind everyone that
1:23:55 the most exciting phase from my
1:23:57 perspective has not is like still you
1:24:00 know when I was so far in the future but
1:24:01 it's actually the active part of the
1:24:03 park which was in the master plan is
1:24:05 where the
1:24:07 um the city is like shops and stuff is
1:24:09 and it will require that to be relocated
1:24:11 but that land then can all be active use
1:24:13 and like the drawings and stuff um for
1:24:16 the MasterPark that we did were really
1:24:18 exciting
1:24:19 um for for that part of the property so
1:24:22 there is supposed to be an active
1:24:24 component of that Park
1:24:26 it's just not the part that we've
1:24:28 developed yet
1:24:29 thanks for sharing that Danielle I know
1:24:31 you're the only one that uh around uh
1:24:34 you were the only one around back in the
1:24:36 days when that Master Plan was created
1:24:38 so I know you have some insight
1:24:44 yes and thank you for bringing up uh
1:24:46 that piece that corner you're correct is
1:24:49 the one piece of the park that is
1:24:52 allowed to be developed more so than
1:24:54 others faces within the park so thank
1:24:56 you very much it's a funding issue like
1:24:58 the way that we that we either you know
1:25:00 got mats and grants or purchased a
1:25:02 property or karate given to us you know
1:25:05 whatever all the rest of the pieces yeah
1:25:07 along their have restrictions yep so
1:25:10 this one does allow for the additional
1:25:12 uses that are being proposed
1:25:17 foreign
1:25:20 [Music]
1:25:24 okay great just as a follow-up I'll be
1:25:28 um updating the issua history museum
1:25:31 board in full uh this Thursday as well
1:25:33 and we'll take our discussion forward
1:25:36 with them as well so
1:25:40 all right any more on this topic grab
1:25:43 your hands still up did you know another
1:25:44 comment
1:25:50 how's that okay
1:25:53 all right then bear with me really quick
1:25:57 and I will
1:25:59 um this is difficult sharing when you uh
1:26:01 are on your own uh
1:26:05 computer so bear with me
1:26:15 right now we're moving on to
1:26:23 the next Arbor project which is
1:26:26 community investment strategy
1:26:30 this is
1:26:40 for The Pedestrian Park and Senior
1:26:43 Center plazas and again we've got our
1:26:46 wonderful methune team joining us here
1:26:50 um us back up
1:26:52 uh just kind of it's been a little bit
1:26:55 since we've talked about this project
1:26:56 and just wanted to do a quick recap from
1:26:59 our meeting in February
1:27:01 um as you may recall we
1:27:03 I spent a lot of time with the ad hoc
1:27:08 um we had gone over a summary of four
1:27:11 different framework options that then
1:27:13 were reduced into two concepts for
1:27:16 consideration
1:27:18 um that that were was the Creekside
1:27:20 table as well as Valley Trail
1:27:23 um we took that design out
1:27:26 um brought it to you prior to doing our
1:27:29 public engagement
1:27:31 and the um this was the Valley Trail
1:27:35 concept you can see here
1:27:38 and then the Creekside table
1:27:42 you should look familiar
1:27:46 um since that time
1:27:47 um we did our public survey and open
1:27:49 house in March we received over 500
1:27:52 comments back uh those comments were
1:27:55 included in your packet tonight if you
1:27:57 want to get into the nitty-gritty of the
1:28:00 comments
1:28:02 but we have been busy since February
1:28:06 also engaging with neighboring
1:28:07 businesses issquad History Museum on
1:28:10 this project as well the Creative Arts
1:28:12 District board downtown escrow
1:28:14 Association visit Issaquah also Senior
1:28:17 Center patrons at various different
1:28:20 groups that gather there so it's been
1:28:22 really quite exciting to get their
1:28:25 feedback
1:28:26 on this project so we did the online
1:28:29 survey and we worked with the ad hoc
1:28:32 committee to review some of those
1:28:34 comments that came through and also
1:28:37 um ad hoc helped guide us into what
1:28:39 we're going to be reviewing tonight
1:28:41 which is
1:28:42 um design direction for preferred
1:28:44 concept
1:28:47 and with that I will pass it over to
1:28:50 mathem team I think Christian's going to
1:28:52 take lead and start us off here
1:28:56 thanks Jennifer can everybody hear me
1:29:00 great
1:29:01 okay so
1:29:03 um Jennifer said my name is Christian
1:29:05 Runge I'm a landscape architect at
1:29:07 methune and part of the team with Amelia
1:29:09 Jensen here on the design team and
1:29:11 you've also met Deb Gunther
1:29:13 a bunch of times as well over time as
1:29:15 well as in the last meeting where we
1:29:17 presented those two options so we're
1:29:20 really excited to kind of give you an
1:29:21 update on what we've been up to and
1:29:23 thinking through the community feedback
1:29:25 and sort of the next steps for the
1:29:27 design in general I just wanted to say
1:29:30 thanks to the ad hoc committee for
1:29:32 really being a great sounding board to
1:29:33 really giving us really um
1:29:35 nuanced and helpful and thoughtful
1:29:37 feedback along the way and of course we
1:29:39 saw a lot of your faces in general at
1:29:41 the um at the open house and along the
1:29:43 way providing great feedback so we
1:29:45 really appreciate that and take it to
1:29:46 heart
1:29:47 and really
1:29:49 really respect the opportunity that we
1:29:52 have here to kind of work on a
1:29:53 significant space like this in Issaquah
1:29:55 so we are really excited to share our
1:29:57 thinking about it so far so we can go to
1:29:58 the next slide
1:30:00 we've uh
1:30:02 um so this is a just high level summary
1:30:04 of some of the feedback we heard from
1:30:06 the community I think most of you saw
1:30:08 some of the online survey
1:30:10 um comments and poll results we had
1:30:13 almost 500 respondents which is amazing
1:30:15 and some of the themes that we took away
1:30:18 from that are first around the water
1:30:20 feature there's a really strong interest
1:30:22 in the idea of a water feature that's
1:30:24 more tactile of the style of the
1:30:26 Creekside table it's something you can
1:30:28 walk up to and touch children might want
1:30:30 to interact with it has a feel and Mass
1:30:32 to it but it's also at the right scale
1:30:34 that it's not that's not overdone it's
1:30:36 not too large that it presents
1:30:38 um a kind of subtle use of water
1:30:41 there was a lot of excitement for some
1:30:44 of the Casual social opportunities that
1:30:46 the Creekside table presented as well
1:30:49 um that raised lawn space some of the
1:30:52 other flexible areas that provide spaces
1:30:54 for small groups to gather teams to
1:30:56 gathers families to hang out in a more
1:30:58 casual setting
1:30:59 there was a lot of excitement around
1:31:01 both Concepts providing flexibility and
1:31:04 openness and that's really a desired
1:31:06 feature in all these spaces we've heard
1:31:08 points here tonight as well as from the
1:31:11 athletic committee about scale about
1:31:13 making sure that there's that openness
1:31:14 and flexibility we don't fill the space
1:31:16 up with too many things and go back to
1:31:18 sort of the where we are now with uh
1:31:21 that space so we really take that to
1:31:23 heart and are continuing to study that
1:31:27 um we're looking for a stronger and more
1:31:30 visible environmental approach both to
1:31:32 use of water but also to plants to
1:31:35 landscape to how we think about a
1:31:38 downtown escrow type environment
1:31:42 um a desire for on authenticity a
1:31:44 relationship to Old Town to the history
1:31:46 as well as the present and future of
1:31:48 issaquaza town that it's something
1:31:51 that's engaging 365 days a year and at
1:31:54 all times of the day including the
1:31:55 evenings
1:31:57 um and that it presents itself both the
1:31:59 water feature the plants the lighting
1:32:00 are kind of have a multi-season type
1:32:02 function to them
1:32:04 and also within the with the shelter
1:32:07 itself
1:32:08 um uh like the water water feature in
1:32:10 Plaza designs a lot of strong interest
1:32:12 in both Concepts almost overwhelming
1:32:14 support for either one or the other but
1:32:16 a little bit of a lean towards the
1:32:18 Creekside table shelter which is the
1:32:20 more simple option and we think though
1:32:22 you can interpret that in a lot of
1:32:24 different ways we think one of the
1:32:25 reasons is that simple and more Timeless
1:32:27 design works well in a lot of contexts
1:32:29 the senior center is an 80s building the
1:32:31 depot is a historic building the city
1:32:33 halls and other architecture and we want
1:32:35 a park architecture that really can work
1:32:37 with a lot of different styles say if we
1:32:39 this Pavilion is replicated in other
1:32:41 parts of Veterans Memorial Field in the
1:32:43 future as it's as it unfolds as a space
1:32:46 including Depot Plaza as well so we can
1:32:48 go to the next slide
1:32:52 so we are what we've decided to do is
1:32:56 we've decided to take uh this Creekside
1:32:58 table concept as a starting point for
1:33:00 this next evolution of design think
1:33:02 about the sort of the pros and cons of
1:33:04 the Valley Trail and start to develop
1:33:06 something
1:33:07 um from there so what we're going to
1:33:09 show you tonight is an evolution of the
1:33:11 Creekside table and I wanted to start by
1:33:13 just thinking a little bit about the
1:33:15 meaning of what this concept is it's
1:33:17 this story of Creekside which really to
1:33:20 us means the idea of Nature and the
1:33:22 strong passion around environment and
1:33:24 nature in the City of Issaquah as well
1:33:26 as well as the table which is really to
1:33:28 us about community and about town that
1:33:31 being in that town life that down that
1:33:33 downtown Issaquah life so next slide
1:33:36 so we wanted to explore these two ideas
1:33:38 further and situate them in uh in
1:33:41 something that we feel is hopefully more
1:33:43 authentic to the town and so from the
1:33:47 perspective of nature we're thinking
1:33:48 about what does it mean to be in the
1:33:50 valley this is downtown is in the valley
1:33:52 it's in more of a flat terrain it's not
1:33:54 the Foothills it's not Snoqualmie Pass
1:33:56 and it's not right on Puget Sound so we
1:33:58 it's a very unique environment and
1:34:01 waterways like Issaquah Creek itself the
1:34:04 geology and nature and plants all have a
1:34:06 special character in this Valley setting
1:34:09 so we explored that and then with
1:34:10 Community uh and history in in the town
1:34:14 we thought about this idea of Crossroads
1:34:17 both because this site is a railroad
1:34:19 um a site where the railroad used to run
1:34:22 off from the depot building but also
1:34:24 that Issaquah from its history
1:34:26 pre-settlement pre-european settlement
1:34:29 into indigenous history and to now has
1:34:30 always had sort of a sense of Crossroads
1:34:33 something Don Fell's artist brought up
1:34:35 in some of his assessment of art
1:34:37 planning opportunities in the town that
1:34:39 this is really something that transcends
1:34:41 all the histories of Issaquah that this
1:34:43 Crossroads environment it's both in the
1:34:45 past but also has a foot in contemporary
1:34:47 life and future that makes the town so
1:34:49 vibrant so we really wanted to explore
1:34:51 what that meant for this space as well
1:34:56 so when we talk about nature in the
1:34:58 valley we thought about a couple things
1:34:59 the Valley Stream
1:35:01 um streams like Issaquah when they get
1:35:03 into the flats they Meander and that's
1:35:05 exactly you would see in a space like
1:35:07 this the geology is actually a much more
1:35:09 fine-grained and much much more textured
1:35:12 um we know we presented options
1:35:14 previously that may have had say large
1:35:16 Boulders or other elements with maybe of
1:35:19 the mountains but the valley is more
1:35:20 about the gravels the cobbles of the
1:35:22 gravel bars of the creek the more
1:35:24 fine-grained textures that you would
1:35:26 find in the valley floors of this region
1:35:28 and then with nature and planting it's
1:35:30 also it's a little more Lush it's a
1:35:32 little more fine texture The Meadows and
1:35:34 riparian areas of the creek spaces that
1:35:36 are in contrast to the high high
1:35:38 Foothills around town so that's
1:35:41 something of what we were exploring with
1:35:42 nature and then next slide
1:35:45 um this image
1:35:47 is a sketch superimposed over a historic
1:35:49 aerial the town just kind of
1:35:51 highlighting then the crossroads nature
1:35:53 of town this intersection of roadways of
1:35:56 um this historic passage over Snoqualmie
1:35:58 Pass this first landing spot when you
1:36:00 come down from the past and then on your
1:36:02 way over to the waterways of the Puget
1:36:04 Sound there's a really significant
1:36:05 Crossroads we want to continue to
1:36:06 explore this next slide
1:36:10 just getting into a little bit more
1:36:11 detail about the form that we're
1:36:13 exploring so the Valley Stream the
1:36:16 Meander the pools the riffles these are
1:36:19 some of the inspiration points that we
1:36:21 were starting to
1:36:22 play off of the Gravel Bar as you would
1:36:25 find in in the flat Meandering pathway
1:36:27 Pathways of Issaquah Creek which you see
1:36:30 on the left-hand side and that lidar
1:36:31 image through downtown
1:36:33 and then we started to look think about
1:36:35 how water would Express itself in a
1:36:38 similar way the sort of Meandering forms
1:36:40 the sort of undulations around
1:36:42 um textured Cobble or sand bars that you
1:36:45 start to see here on these water feature
1:36:47 examples on the right hand side
1:36:49 on the next slide we also
1:36:53 thought a little bit more again about
1:36:54 the geology the idea of these gravel
1:36:56 bars the Cobble elements and how this
1:36:58 finer grain texture could take shape in
1:37:00 a water feature you can see examples of
1:37:01 how it can just be a very simple
1:37:03 beautiful reflecting pool to where you
1:37:05 see that reflection of the Cobble of the
1:37:07 Cobble of the valley or in slightly
1:37:10 um raised surfaces that can provide a
1:37:13 little texture to a flowing water run
1:37:14 all across a flat grades you kind of see
1:37:17 these expressions of Cobble and water
1:37:20 features as well and then next slide
1:37:24 we also are exploring plants and what it
1:37:26 means to be in a plant in a in a sort of
1:37:30 natural environment in the valley and we
1:37:32 were thinking a lot about these ideas of
1:37:36 sort of boardwalks and
1:37:39 walking paths and and foot bridges that
1:37:41 may Traverse lowland environments around
1:37:43 the valley and really thinking about
1:37:45 whether how that might Inspire planting
1:37:47 design in this Valley decreasing it
1:37:49 feels really natural but also fits
1:37:51 within an um Urban context
1:37:54 and also provides sort of open sight
1:37:56 lines and then with the community and
1:37:58 Crossroads we're looking at both the a
1:38:00 lot of the historic fabric of town
1:38:01 downtown the we've heard comments about
1:38:04 the fish ladders that sort of
1:38:05 infrastructure part of the city we know
1:38:07 about all about the railroad and the
1:38:09 sort of passages and the trestles that
1:38:11 ran through the valley as well and we
1:38:13 started to think about how that might
1:38:14 inform materials Furnishings different
1:38:17 elements that might express some of that
1:38:18 history in a in a way that feels
1:38:21 situated and is also usable in the
1:38:22 present as seating as places for social
1:38:24 Gathering and really is a way that we
1:38:26 can use these elements in a way that can
1:38:28 promote Community it can promote
1:38:30 socialization you get to get this with
1:38:33 benches that provide opportunities for
1:38:35 people to sit and talk to each other
1:38:36 versus sit alone and look at their phone
1:38:38 or families to hang out and kind of
1:38:40 group in different ways so that kind of
1:38:42 flexibility was something we also wanted
1:38:43 to explore
1:38:45 next slide
1:38:47 so just as a overall idea what we were
1:38:51 trying to do with this updated and
1:38:52 design direction is really start to play
1:38:55 off these ideas of the Valley nature and
1:38:57 the town and blend them together through
1:38:59 this water feature element and the
1:39:01 Gravel Bar which is again this raised
1:39:03 lawn element that you saw in the
1:39:05 previous concept so I'll just go to the
1:39:07 next slide because there's a lot more on
1:39:09 that one
1:39:11 what you're seeing here is we've um we
1:39:15 went kind of all in on this idea of a
1:39:18 more Meandering curvilinear type water
1:39:20 feature as well as landscape plantings
1:39:22 and I think what what this really means
1:39:25 to us is that
1:39:27 it's this pedestrian Park is becoming a
1:39:31 park it's bringing the park of Veterans
1:39:33 Memorial Field it's bringing it out to
1:39:35 downtown Issaquah it's bringing it right
1:39:37 out to the front door of the park and
1:39:38 it's creating almost like a park-like
1:39:40 environment within the plaza so it has
1:39:42 those Plaza functions but it's also the
1:39:44 gateway to the park
1:39:46 so um what we're thinking here is that
1:39:48 the Middle Island essentially is that
1:39:51 raised lawn it provides that opportunity
1:39:53 for sociable picnicking and seating for
1:39:55 small groups it still has an edge that's
1:39:57 a water feeder feature but it's a much
1:39:59 more Meandering water feature and you
1:40:01 can see one idea we have here is that
1:40:03 the water feature itself is a Meandering
1:40:08 form but also maybe the paving pattern
1:40:10 that you see here in Gray is also a
1:40:12 Meandering form it might be a hexagonal
1:40:14 paver or something that creates more of
1:40:16 a fractal or natural kind of pixelated
1:40:18 look to the paving that feels a little
1:40:21 more natural and less rigid
1:40:24 and the edges on both sides would have
1:40:27 Planters potentially rain Garden
1:40:28 Planters to train storm water that's
1:40:30 flowing off off The Hardscape areas
1:40:33 and also provide opportunities on the
1:40:35 left side for more intimate and kind of
1:40:37 immersive experience to a narrower
1:40:39 pathway through more of a natural
1:40:41 environment and on the right side a more
1:40:43 open pathway that's about a 10 to 15
1:40:45 foot wide walkway that has direct sight
1:40:49 lines to the depot but also
1:40:51 opportunities to meander within that to
1:40:53 create we heard a lot of feedback about
1:40:54 avoiding sort of these straight axial
1:40:57 views that might feel a little stale so
1:40:59 to create that experience of wandering
1:41:01 and slowing down as you go through the
1:41:03 pedestrian Plaza giving a chance to
1:41:05 linger also knowing that your head might
1:41:07 be heading to the depot or Beyond so on
1:41:10 the next slide you'll see a couple
1:41:11 different sections to give you a sense
1:41:12 of what this looks like
1:41:13 three-dimensionally the plaza the lawn
1:41:16 itself is fairly low and one big
1:41:18 difference from the previous schemes to
1:41:19 this one is that you'll see on the lower
1:41:22 um elevation that the lawn is sloped
1:41:24 from the streets side uh at Sunset to
1:41:28 the back towards Depot it's sloped from
1:41:30 about a two foot high wall down to zero
1:41:33 down to flush with grade and what that
1:41:35 does is it provides wheelchair
1:41:37 accessibility onto this lawn and it's
1:41:39 approximately about a two to three
1:41:41 percent slope which as a sitting surface
1:41:44 is pretty much flat but as a element
1:41:47 that's viewed you'll see that it's
1:41:48 sloped so this we really wanted to look
1:41:51 at how this space could be more
1:41:52 accessible and inclusive to everybody so
1:41:54 this idea of the tip lawn came into play
1:41:56 in that way but it also happens to we
1:41:58 think kind of expressing more of a
1:41:59 natural kind of form that feels like the
1:42:01 Gravel Bar that we're trying to uh evoke
1:42:03 and so that's what you see here with
1:42:05 this idea that sort of a more of a
1:42:06 raised element on the street side that
1:42:08 presents the water feature and then it
1:42:10 gradually slopes down to the the maples
1:42:12 and the natural side towards the back
1:42:13 improvise that open opportunity along
1:42:15 the way
1:42:18 um and you can get a sense from this
1:42:19 section the upper section this idea of a
1:42:21 narrower path on the left side and a
1:42:23 wider path on the right side that allows
1:42:25 more free-flowing circulation for
1:42:27 pedestrians
1:42:29 um lastly you can see these benches here
1:42:31 again this idea of in this case we're
1:42:34 interested in this idea of a bench that
1:42:37 evokes uh the railroad in in the sort of
1:42:39 railroad ties and even the metal base
1:42:41 might have the sort of rail rail kind of
1:42:43 metal character to it so that's another
1:42:45 opportunity just to insert something
1:42:47 that feels a little more historic
1:42:50 and uh if you go to the next slide
1:42:52 please
1:42:53 get a little bit of a sense
1:42:54 three-dimensionally we didn't really
1:42:56 present like a fully finished
1:42:58 perfect rendering here this is more just
1:43:00 to give you a sense of the scale but
1:43:02 again this opportunity for the
1:43:03 Meandering water feature and Paving
1:43:05 pattern one thing that's not shown here
1:43:08 we'll show you the materials next we're
1:43:09 exploring both the idea of these
1:43:11 hexagonal pavers or more natural kind of
1:43:13 paver element that might intersect with
1:43:16 more of a rail inspired Paving they
1:43:18 might have a more of a linear Rhythm to
1:43:20 it that feels a little bit more like
1:43:21 that rail rail line rhythm
1:43:24 um so we kind of have this juxtaposition
1:43:25 of more of the town and the history
1:43:27 and the nature within the paving itself
1:43:30 so we recognize we want something to
1:43:32 feel natural but we also wanted to have
1:43:33 the energy of town that it's a space
1:43:35 that has an atmosphere to it that feels
1:43:37 a little bit
1:43:39 um sort of contemporary situated within
1:43:41 the town itself so you can see the the
1:43:43 view to the depot the Promenade through
1:43:45 the water feature on one Edge scaled
1:43:48 down and kind of uh with spillover and
1:43:50 I'll show you a couple describe a little
1:43:52 bit of that in a second the raised lawn
1:43:54 and the what we're calling the Valley
1:43:55 Trail on the right left side
1:43:57 the next slide
1:43:59 so just a couple notes about the water
1:44:01 feature uh like Charlie's caveats uh
1:44:03 it's not designed yet but what we're
1:44:05 thinking is that it's going to have
1:44:07 essentially three components the first
1:44:10 is that there will be a a runnel that
1:44:12 runs along the top along with the lawn
1:44:14 and that's what you see with number one
1:44:15 on the upper left it's sort of a channel
1:44:17 that's up at the level with the lawn and
1:44:20 that's the place where we could have the
1:44:22 the sort of idea of little fountains
1:44:24 that provide that went uplit create kind
1:44:26 of a candle effect at night as well as
1:44:28 this opportunity when the water is going
1:44:29 up and down to provide those channels
1:44:31 and undulations that create a natural
1:44:33 effect as well as the reflecting effects
1:44:35 so we can really play with the subtle
1:44:38 variations of water to express that
1:44:40 Meandering Isla Creek as well as the
1:44:42 atmosphere of the Town through the
1:44:44 candles and then in strategic moments
1:44:46 particularly at the entrance to the park
1:44:49 um or The Pedestrian park by the street
1:44:51 there might be a space where it spills
1:44:53 over as we're calling the riffle Falls
1:44:55 whereas sort of spilling over textured
1:44:57 cobbly type elements that create a sort
1:45:01 of a softer sound really evoke that
1:45:03 sound and the quieter sound of the creek
1:45:04 in the valley and provide that tactile
1:45:07 and then the children can walk up to
1:45:08 that you can kind of feel that natural
1:45:10 feel to it so that's what those images
1:45:12 are evoking and then when it hits the
1:45:13 bottom
1:45:15 it would it would sort of spill out into
1:45:18 a shallow pool that would be fairly uh
1:45:21 narrow it might be five feet wide but it
1:45:24 would be a shallow kind of pool that you
1:45:25 see down here that's just basically a
1:45:28 thin screw of water that basically
1:45:30 allows it gives you a space to
1:45:33 provide more Reflections for children to
1:45:35 kind of run past and stomp and kind of
1:45:37 another tactile experience so that's
1:45:39 what you see down on here on the right
1:45:40 side so what we're setting up here is
1:45:43 this opportunity to use these three
1:45:44 different water feature ideas to play
1:45:47 with the scale to really
1:45:49 um to provide some different moments
1:45:51 along the way that are both would be
1:45:54 create some atmosphere as well as stay
1:45:58 within uh stay within something that's a
1:46:00 little more subtle and of the town and
1:46:01 of of the creek
1:46:03 so the next slide
1:46:06 just to give you an example some of the
1:46:08 thoughts we have around materials you
1:46:10 can see on the left some of the ways you
1:46:11 can we think you could express the the
1:46:13 Escala Creek hobble idea with materials
1:46:16 gentle Cascades subtle runnels
1:46:19 reflection natural materials like Kabul
1:46:21 the planting can kind of take a more
1:46:23 naturalistic form in terms of Meadow or
1:46:26 riparian planting even the treats small
1:46:28 trees themselves might evoke Birches or
1:46:31 Alders or other types of trees you might
1:46:33 see in repairing our environments the
1:46:35 paving can take on a more naturalistic
1:46:37 almost pixelated look like some of these
1:46:39 images or
1:46:41 um held a little bit more in contrast
1:46:43 with more linear Paving than might sort
1:46:45 of replicate and reference the rail line
1:46:47 and then you see the plinth here give
1:46:49 you a sense of the scale of what that is
1:46:50 it's fairly low this this raised table
1:46:52 is is a low element
1:46:54 um provides opportunity for seating on
1:46:56 the edge as well as on top and then this
1:46:58 idea of using materials like wood to
1:47:00 really warm up the space reference uh
1:47:02 some of the rail materials in history
1:47:05 um next slide please
1:47:08 this moving over to the senior center
1:47:11 for a second I just want to show you
1:47:13 what we really wanted to look at here to
1:47:15 start is we wanted to see how this idea
1:47:18 of the valley uh the Meandering Valley
1:47:20 concept translates over to the senior
1:47:23 center and we think it can really
1:47:25 translate over quite nicely and provide
1:47:27 this more park-like connection between
1:47:29 pedestrian Park Depot and the senior
1:47:31 center into the main Park itself and so
1:47:34 this is not a final design but it kind
1:47:36 of captures some of the key elements
1:47:37 that we think will move forward in this
1:47:39 design including the a flexible seating
1:47:42 and shelter area as we've kind of been
1:47:44 showing it before
1:47:46 um a sort of central spine or Promenade
1:47:48 that sort of has more of a Meandering
1:47:50 feel to it with opportunities for
1:47:52 seating next to Planters these seats
1:47:54 here you can see in section maybe a
1:47:56 little bit like the lawn you saw at
1:47:58 pedestrian Park but instead of maybe a
1:47:59 lawn it may could be a tipped or a
1:48:01 sloped planter with seating on one side
1:48:03 and planting on the other that face
1:48:05 faces the parking lot and provides some
1:48:07 screening
1:48:08 and maybe some side Pathways that allow
1:48:11 for more quiet more intimate seating for
1:48:13 all the community and seniors as well
1:48:15 and then as you move towards um towards
1:48:18 the center uh we heard that comment at
1:48:20 the very beginning about the memorial
1:48:23 um it's really a point well taken what
1:48:25 we're anticipating doing is is yes we do
1:48:27 want to ride it that use that Memorial
1:48:29 as a focal point to um situate it in a
1:48:33 way that really highlights it as
1:48:34 something that's
1:48:35 um present in the site and really can't
1:48:37 take that lightly at all like it's a
1:48:40 really important design exercise to
1:48:42 think about the sighting this the
1:48:44 situating memorial element and we really
1:48:46 appreciate some of the comments about
1:48:47 history we'd love to talk more about
1:48:49 that kind of stuff the missing voices
1:48:51 the other elements that could be added
1:48:52 to this so we see that as part of this
1:48:54 design is an important part of how that
1:48:56 edge along the parking is addressed and
1:48:58 how we locate that element so it's it's
1:49:01 really an important piece to us to
1:49:02 maintain it in this space and enhance it
1:49:04 and the lastly As you move towards the
1:49:06 park and up to the north and east side
1:49:08 of the senior center we're planning that
1:49:11 as a sort of abachian activity area and
1:49:14 that's an opportunity for a number of
1:49:15 different activities if you go to the
1:49:17 next slide you can see some of the
1:49:18 activities we heard a lot of excitement
1:49:20 about in the community engagement
1:49:22 around the idea of activities like Bocce
1:49:24 this is an abachi court that we've
1:49:28 designed in an urban environment that
1:49:30 has actually storm water function below
1:49:31 it but it situates very nicely into a
1:49:33 simple Plaza environment we've heard a
1:49:35 lot of interest in opportunities for
1:49:37 multi-generational play in the form of
1:49:39 fixed chess tables a desire for flexible
1:49:43 space for dancing social Gatherings
1:49:46 other other activities so that that's
1:49:48 really important uh the opportunities
1:49:50 for social seating for people of all
1:49:52 generations and like generations and
1:49:55 different generations to interact with
1:49:56 each other and for places to sit and
1:49:58 kind of watch the park park life unfold
1:50:00 and also the interest in gardening and
1:50:03 more interactive planting
1:50:06 um like raised garden beds and
1:50:07 Horticultural opportunities for the
1:50:09 folks that use the senior center
1:50:12 um one of the last slides the next slide
1:50:14 is just a reminder of the Creekside
1:50:16 table shelter and again as I mentioned
1:50:19 before there was a lot of interest in
1:50:20 both schemes and the idea of something
1:50:21 that's warm that uses wood to evoke the
1:50:24 the natural character of Issaquah that
1:50:27 uses a more simple form that could be uh
1:50:30 translate well next to an 80s building
1:50:32 next to a historic Depot building that
1:50:34 has a mixture of transparency on the
1:50:36 roof as in this form one example is
1:50:39 skylights but also provide Shelter From
1:50:42 the rain and that flexibility underneath
1:50:44 the space and size and scale that allows
1:50:47 a lot of different uses similar to as we
1:50:48 were discussing with the the eckhouse
1:50:51 and lastly
1:50:53 but definitely not least
1:50:55 um we've begun to explore what we think
1:50:57 are some really interesting
1:50:58 possibilities for sustainable approaches
1:51:00 to this design we're working in more of
1:51:02 a downtown environment in Issaquah and
1:51:04 by that I mean the town
1:51:06 um it's not an urban environment but we
1:51:07 we're using more Hardscape for instance
1:51:09 where we're using different approaches
1:51:11 and some of the opportunities we think
1:51:12 are around the use of rain Gardens
1:51:14 biofiltration on the site to really both
1:51:17 expressed the idea of riparian planting
1:51:19 and Creekside planting as well as treat
1:51:21 water we think soil cells are an
1:51:23 interesting opportunity I'm not sure if
1:51:25 everyone's how familiar with everyone is
1:51:26 with these but it's essentially an
1:51:28 underground structure that allows us to
1:51:31 have continuous soil systems and
1:51:33 continuous root systems between trees so
1:51:35 if we do plant a Grove of trees that
1:51:37 goes straight through Hardscape Plaza
1:51:39 the underground system is is totally
1:51:41 connected and really a lot of data shows
1:51:44 results in much happier and healthier
1:51:46 trees
1:51:47 which both of these translate to the
1:51:49 idea of enhanced habitat for both of the
1:51:52 smaller scale with the with the enhanced
1:51:54 plantings as well as with the trees
1:51:56 themselves deploying salmon safe
1:51:58 practices for very obvious reasons and
1:52:00 that could be with the choice of
1:52:01 materials thinking about runoff
1:52:04 Etc and then thinking about the
1:52:06 opportunities to reclaim recycled and
1:52:07 sustainable materials both as a way to
1:52:10 evoke the history of the site and that
1:52:13 rich history
1:52:14 but also be uh careful and cautious with
1:52:17 our resources so these are just some of
1:52:19 the ideas that we're starting to explore
1:52:20 that we think are opportunities that can
1:52:22 really have a visible visible presence
1:52:24 and strong impact meaningful and real
1:52:26 impact in the life of the Plaza
1:52:28 I think that's the last slide I'm sorry
1:52:31 that was so long but we we're excited to
1:52:33 kind of share all these ideas we're
1:52:34 really looking forward to hearing your
1:52:35 feedback and answer any questions if you
1:52:38 have them and as Jen's already mentioned
1:52:40 we um
1:52:42 again we're presenting these as a sort
1:52:44 of a direction we're headed with the
1:52:45 idea that we're going to continue if
1:52:47 there's interest in this we're going to
1:52:49 continue over the next month or so
1:52:51 finalizing more of us a a preferred
1:52:53 design that would be um sent out to the
1:52:56 community for a look as well as then
1:52:58 start to work towards our construction
1:53:01 drawings and permit drawings and whatnot
1:53:02 so this is as a step in that process so
1:53:05 appreciate your time and I'm looking
1:53:07 forward to hearing any feedback or
1:53:09 common chef
1:53:11 great thank you Christian
1:53:14 um I think right now I would like to
1:53:16 Quick um turn it over to ad hoc to see
1:53:19 if you have any
1:53:21 feedback for the board at large as far
1:53:23 as some of the conversation we've had at
1:53:25 um our meetings as far as the design
1:53:28 Direction where you'd like to go with
1:53:32 you want to go first okay
1:53:34 um yeah so there were a lot of comments
1:53:36 around uh in this survey of around
1:53:38 wanting the the part to be more natural
1:53:41 looking to make sure that we're
1:53:43 designing this part that doesn't look
1:53:45 like it's in New York
1:53:47 or uh there were comments about
1:53:49 practicality of Maintenance so I I think
1:53:54 um what the what they designed based on
1:53:56 the feedback
1:53:58 um reflects a strong
1:54:00 um consideration of the comments that
1:54:03 which were a lot uh and the emphasis on
1:54:08 community identity which is around
1:54:11 um the the creek
1:54:14 um the Creekside element of illness
1:54:17 that's why
1:54:21 as well
1:54:23 uh it was really impressive to see how
1:54:26 uh the PIN
1:54:27 it started way down at the very basic
1:54:30 you know words that were identified in
1:54:33 the um in you know in all the feedback
1:54:36 and then how they just work their way up
1:54:38 from from that to you know sort of some
1:54:40 simple shapes and simple ideas to what
1:54:43 they presented now at the same time
1:54:45 folding in
1:54:46 the more specific desires that people
1:54:49 Express
1:54:51 um and I think it's really important to
1:54:53 note that this is still you know a
1:54:56 concept design although it's moved you
1:54:58 know quite far along and uh you know
1:55:01 some of the comments about managing the
1:55:03 scale and the width uh we've talked
1:55:06 about that before and I guess I wanted
1:55:09 to say I feel comfortable that they are
1:55:11 really looking at that
1:55:13 um and uh having seen some of the work
1:55:15 they've done in some of the
1:55:17 rendering and then also uh just some of
1:55:20 the comments that we provided uh during
1:55:23 our most recent ad hoc meeting and so I
1:55:25 think what you see here is pretty far
1:55:28 along but still will be you know worked
1:55:31 and massage quite a bit more to to
1:55:33 really fit uh some of the real refined
1:55:36 details that people are commenting on
1:55:37 right now
1:55:39 together
1:55:41 Marlene on the other Enderman so okay
1:55:46 well thank you
1:55:49 um I'd like to open it up to
1:55:52 Park Board
1:55:53 um see if you have any more feedback as
1:55:56 Christian mentioned we would if the
1:55:59 board's so supported
1:56:00 um would like perhaps an eventual motion
1:56:04 if possible
1:56:06 um that we might be able to continue
1:56:08 furthering in this design as Christian
1:56:10 mentioned in order to lead us into
1:56:14 future construction documents this would
1:56:17 come back for additional feedback as we
1:56:19 started refining some of the elements
1:56:22 but um
1:56:24 there we go I see Brad do you have a
1:56:26 hand up
1:56:28 uh yeah good stuff Christian uh looks
1:56:31 really good
1:56:32 um two comments one question all very
1:56:35 short really like the water features
1:56:39 figuring in water in motion and and the
1:56:43 sound of water is two key important
1:56:47 elements in my opinion to make an
1:56:49 effective water feature and so and it
1:56:53 looks like you are considering that
1:56:56 um as much as I like wood love wood very
1:57:00 hard to maintain so
1:57:02 um you know I have a little concern I
1:57:04 guess with tables and benches and all
1:57:06 that kind of stuff in terms of what kind
1:57:07 of material would be used long term
1:57:11 um and so that's certainly a
1:57:13 consideration my last is just a question
1:57:17 is the playground next to the senior
1:57:20 center going to be removed or is that
1:57:22 going to be staying where it is
1:57:27 the playground is staying where it is at
1:57:30 this time
1:57:31 um we are hoping budget would allow to
1:57:35 add an additional accessible route to
1:57:38 the playground however um we are not
1:57:40 touching the playground as part of this
1:57:42 work okay
1:57:44 that's it for me thanks looks good
1:57:49 uh I was surprised
1:57:52 um in kind of a setup of the description
1:57:56 of the the
1:57:58 of this project that we talked about the
1:58:01 the Creed which I get and the and the
1:58:04 depot but um we didn't mention the
1:58:07 historic nature of the field
1:58:10 um and I just want to you know make sure
1:58:12 that we're all on the same page like
1:58:14 this this field was brought to us by our
1:58:17 community like 100 years ago was a
1:58:19 Grassroots or you know like
1:58:22 um firefighters and miners like you know
1:58:25 bought like basically bought the
1:58:28 um the property
1:58:30 um in order to play baseball on it
1:58:32 um and so I think it's important that we
1:58:35 remember that and as you know as we
1:58:38 think about renovating these Parks
1:58:41 um that we you know uh think about the
1:58:44 history of them and what elements we
1:58:46 want to keep that field was also used so
1:58:49 it was used for baseball by them it was
1:58:51 used for the high school for football
1:58:54 um and baseball and like the remnants of
1:58:56 the grandstands are there
1:58:59 um and it is uh and for rodeos too you
1:59:03 know so there are a lot of other
1:59:04 elements I think that we could
1:59:07 um you know think about incorporating
1:59:12 into a plan and I just wonder you know
1:59:16 we're not talking right now about the
1:59:17 master plan for that or planning for
1:59:20 that part of the park but I want to make
1:59:22 sure that whatever we do here will you
1:59:25 know be neutral enough to be able to
1:59:26 work with whatever happens you know with
1:59:28 that field
1:59:30 in my and just because this is my last
1:59:33 cardboard meeting on this board like I
1:59:35 just want to say like I in my mind
1:59:37 um it would be a beautiful nod to
1:59:39 history to create a like a really nice
1:59:42 Little League field on that in that
1:59:44 baseball area and it was would allow it
1:59:48 wouldn't have the same encroachments
1:59:49 because they don't hit as far into the
1:59:52 other areas of the park
1:59:54 um but it is the most spectacular place
1:59:56 in hezekuato watch a baseball game and
1:59:59 little league
2:00:00 um you just have so many little kids in
2:00:02 such a family fun atmosphere and I think
2:00:05 the senior center it might draw you know
2:00:07 people to come watch you know watch the
2:00:09 games there and stuff too so I hope that
2:00:12 um and that would be a beautiful nod to
2:00:13 our history
2:00:14 um in Islam so anyway I just want to
2:00:17 throw that out there and make sure that
2:00:19 whatever it is that we're doing and that
2:00:21 we're designing it but you know also
2:00:24 will work with whatever the future plans
2:00:26 is are there you may recall as part of
2:00:29 the master planning work with work with
2:00:31 John Fells who created kind of a guiding
2:00:33 document about some of the history in
2:00:35 these spaces and that has really been
2:00:37 guiding some of our design for this
2:00:39 keeping in mind kind of the bigger
2:00:42 picture as to what we're doing so we're
2:00:44 really thinking
2:00:46 for this space but how it could also
2:00:48 translate to a bigger story as part of
2:00:50 the whole park so I think that's we've
2:00:52 had a lot of conversation in and around
2:00:54 that good yeah
2:01:00 any any other comments or feedback
2:01:06 um well I've been with her comments uh
2:01:08 I'd like to propose a motion to support
2:01:10 the preferred design for pedestrian Park
2:01:12 and senior centers Senior Center Plaza
2:01:14 and move the projects designed forward
2:01:16 into construction documents and
2:01:18 permitting
2:01:20 I'll second that
2:01:22 great so I think we have time for a
2:01:24 little bit of discussion there and I
2:01:26 just want to make note that we do have a
2:01:27 lot of regular members that are not in
2:01:29 attendance but it's meeting um so I will
2:01:31 need both alternate members to to vote
2:01:34 for this
2:01:40 so uh all in favor of uh including
2:01:43 motion raise your hand
2:01:57 okay I have five and David did you want
2:02:02 to abstain or vote no oh I see you
2:02:05 voting to move forward yeah great
2:02:10 all six great and we look forward to
2:02:13 bringing this forward
2:02:16 and as we further the design and keep me
2:02:18 abreast of where we're at on in the
2:02:20 process so
2:02:22 thank you for that
2:02:24 um as a quick reminder kind of where
2:02:26 we're at
2:02:27 um as we further refine the design like
2:02:30 I said we would share it we'll start
2:02:32 working into construction documents and
2:02:35 permitting and hopefully
2:02:37 oh hopefully by the end of this year
2:02:41 I say that with all fingers and toes
2:02:43 cross we will be starting construction
2:02:47 um moving this project forward to trying
2:02:49 to meet our deadline for next year so
2:02:52 with that
2:02:54 um thank you all very much for your time
2:02:57 sorry we've run just a little bit over
2:02:59 but I will turn it back to you chair
2:03:00 okay great uh keep mine uh pretty brief
2:03:04 here but I mainly wanted to take this
2:03:07 opportunity to
2:03:09 um recognize Danielle for her uh 18
2:03:12 years of service on the board and also
2:03:15 her uh five years of service is the
2:03:18 chair and uh
2:03:20 yes thank you so much for for
2:03:31 [Laughter]
2:03:39 everything seems to go so slowly but you
2:03:41 know like it does you know it's amazing
2:03:43 what actually gets done in that time
2:03:45 yeah so well thank you for your pleasure
2:03:48 yeah thank you
2:03:51 my only other thing uh next next week is
2:03:54 the um we'll be nominating
2:03:58 um potential for chair Vice chair and uh
2:04:01 perhaps uh going through uh elections
2:04:03 for for that so uh yeah interest and and
2:04:08 uh volunteering for her chair or vice
2:04:11 chair just take the next week or so to
2:04:13 or not next month or so to uh
2:04:17 sort of
2:04:19 decide on that and um turn it over to
2:04:21 the Newton representative
2:04:24 um yeah so uh we just had our Harry
2:04:27 Potter night event a couple of weeks ago
2:04:31 and that was really good you'll still
2:04:33 had our state of mind confidence that
2:04:35 was also a big success and then coming
2:04:38 up uh June 4th I believe we have our sea
2:04:43 kids triathlon and that's our biggest
2:04:45 and final event of the year yeah wow
2:04:48 okay coming up quick
2:04:54 and directors of course I will be
2:04:56 filling into Jackie filling in for maybe
2:04:58 we'll do it I can do it really quickly
2:05:01 so bear with me uh just a couple of
2:05:04 items because I know we have some ad hoc
2:05:06 members that are wondering what am I
2:05:08 going to start when am I going to start
2:05:10 so quick update on those items
2:05:14 Hillside Park really quick we are in
2:05:17 design and permitting right now
2:05:20 um we are at 60 construction documents
2:05:22 we're doing a quick review we hope to
2:05:25 submit our permit package
2:05:28 um by the first of May first week of May
2:05:31 um so with that once it gets submitted
2:05:34 uh we'll be in the active process and
2:05:37 then we'll also have an environmental
2:05:39 meeting as part of that process and go
2:05:42 on but thank you methune for your hard
2:05:44 work in getting us in uh on permitting
2:05:47 on that uh the dog park over by the
2:05:50 community center
2:05:51 um we finalized our scope with HPB
2:05:54 landscape architecture and
2:05:58 um we are anticipating
2:06:00 um probably the second week of May doing
2:06:02 some public engagement uh around that
2:06:05 looking at some options for layout as
2:06:09 well as materials so more to come on
2:06:13 that really soon
2:06:15 the park strategic plan ad hoc we're
2:06:18 gonna need just a few more weeks before
2:06:21 you get rolling here we're still
2:06:24 finalizing the scope with the consultant
2:06:26 design workshop and
2:06:30 um we hopefully their first steps will
2:06:33 be kind of collecting data and doing
2:06:34 some reconnaissance and wrapping their
2:06:37 head around everything but once they get
2:06:39 rolling we will definitely get you
2:06:41 engaged ad hoc so probably another three
2:06:44 four weeks I would assume you may have
2:06:46 your first meeting or so so just keep an
2:06:49 eye out for an email
2:06:50 regarding that and then real quick the
2:06:53 urban forestry management plan ad hoc
2:06:57 um I Know Dan has been drafting his RFQ
2:07:00 uh been coordinating with him on that
2:07:03 and I would anticipate that being
2:07:05 advertised soon it'll probably have a
2:07:08 three-week advertising period the
2:07:10 consultant selection and then we'll get
2:07:12 you rolling so it might be six to eight
2:07:16 weeks before that's actually final
2:07:20 um but anyways more to come soon on that
2:07:22 once we get a consultant on board
2:07:26 that's it
2:07:28 all right good I want to adding on to to
2:07:32 what Zach said another huge thank you to
2:07:35 Danielle
2:07:36 um for our next May meeting we will have
2:07:38 one new
2:07:39 um alternate number that will be joining
2:07:41 us so we'll have some new things in
2:07:43 um at a new face
2:07:45 um and then if anybody is interested in
2:07:48 um nominating themselves or nominating
2:07:50 somebody else for chair or vice chair we
2:07:53 will add that to the agenda for um the
2:07:55 next meeting and you all will vote to
2:07:57 have that for your next Park Board to
2:07:59 have your um chair and vice chair
2:08:02 um and if anybody's interested in what
2:08:03 that leadership opportunity entails feel
2:08:05 free to send an email over to myself or
2:08:07 Jeff and we're happy to chat ahead of
2:08:09 that meeting and that's it
2:08:12 great okay so I'll call the close the
2:08:15 meeting for today next meeting is May
2:08:20 great see you all then have a great
2:08:22 night thanks so much
2:08:24 so much
2:08:26 all right thank you

Attendance

Council / Members (8)
Zach Szablewski
Chris Kovac
Andrew Eliquen
David Liu (Virtual)
Nicholas Lee (Virtual, departed 8:05)
Danielle Wolfrom Githens, Alternate, Serving
as Regular Member
Bradley Book, Alternate (Virtual, Serving as Regular Member)
Staff (10)
Hasanthi Piyasena, Department Operations Specialist
Jennifer Fink, Park Planner and Project Administrator
Andrea Snyder, Deputy City Administrator
Susie Monsell, Budget Manager
Paul Winterstein, Executive Director
Issaquah History Museums
Cory Christensen, Community Member
Connie Marsh, Community Member
Arsheya Thakkar
(Arrived 7:41)
Excused
Marlene Waxse
Brenda Spears
Katie Bell
Tim Motely
Andrew Myers

Recommendations & actions (2)

Sentences extracted from the narrative containing words like recommended, requested, directed, moved, or approved. Best-effort — verify against the full minutes for context.

  • a) Minutes of March 16, 2023 There being no corrections, the minutes were approved as presented.
  • b) Minutes of March 27, 2023 There being no corrections, the minutes were approved as presented.