Park Board · Monday, April 24, 2023 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of March 16, 2023

packet pp.3–4

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 03-16-23 Environmental Board Minutes Page 1 CITY OF ISSAQUAH Environmental & Parks Boards Special Meeting 6:30 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. Mar 16, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

Minutes of March 27, 2023

packet pp.5–7

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES b) 03-27-23 Park Board Minutes Page 1 CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave March 27, 2023 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

2024-2029 Draft CIP for Parks and Trails, (D)

20 min · Jennifer Fink, Park Planner and Project Administrator Mithun Consultant Team · packet pp.9–37

Topics: ParksBudget

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Staff report:

Draft CIP: Focus on Parks & Trails APRIL 24, 2023

Community Investment Strategy Project Update, re: Pedestrian Park and Senior Center Plaza, (D,A)

40 min · Jennifer Fink, Park Planner and Project Administrator Mithun Consultant Team · packet pp.61–125

Topics: TransportationParks

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Staff report:

and four framework options to two concepts: • Creekside Table • Valley Trail

5. REPORTS

Chairperson's Report

Youth Representative's Report

Director's Report

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0:06 ↗ you know thank you all for joining we're

0:09 ↗ gonna get started here

0:11 ↗ all right uh so welcome to the April

0:14 ↗ 24th 2023 meeting I'll start off by

0:17 ↗ taking uh roll call so uh when I call

0:20 ↗ your name please take yourself off mute

0:22 ↗ or just acknowledge your presence uh so

0:26 ↗ Brenda

0:28 ↗ Brad I'm here

0:32 ↗ Chris president

0:34 ↗ David

0:36 ↗ present

0:38 ↗ president Katie

0:42 ↗ Arlene

0:45 ↗ Nicholas

0:47 ↗ present

0:49 ↗ Tim

0:53 ↗ Andrew e Andrew

0:59 ↗ all right uh so moving on to the

1:01 ↗ approval of minutes from we had uh two

1:04 ↗ two meetings so uh March 16th any

1:08 ↗ questions comments or Corrections

1:12 ↗ right does anyone have any objections to

1:15 ↗ me approving the minutes for March 16th

1:19 ↗ okay hereby approve the minutes from

1:22 ↗ March 16 2023 uh did everyone get a

1:25 ↗ chance to look at the March 27th uh

1:28 ↗ meeting minutes

1:29 ↗ any questions comments or Corrections

1:34 ↗ all right uh anyone have any objection

1:37 ↗ to approving the March 27 2023 meeting

1:41 ↗ minutes

1:44 ↗ okay hereby approve the minutes from

1:47 ↗ March 27 to 2823

1:50 ↗ all right

1:51 ↗ um so looks like uh we have a

1:54 ↗ potentially quite a few comments in the

1:56 ↗ public so I'd like to open the door and

2:00 ↗ basically when

2:02 ↗ um

2:02 ↗ there's no electron to step up to so

2:05 ↗ just feel free to uh to stand or sit in

2:07 ↗ place and state state your name and

2:09 ↗ relationship to the city and try to

2:12 ↗ limit your comments to uh five minutes

2:28 ↗ still hear me

2:31 ↗ hello thanks for the opportunity uh to

2:34 ↗ speak and my name is Paul winterstein

2:36 ↗ I'm here in my capacity as the executive

2:39 ↗ director of the Issaquah history of

2:40 ↗ museums and this is my fourth week in

2:43 ↗ this position and I wanted to speak a

2:46 ↗ little about concerning the portion of

2:49 ↗ your agenda later today about the

2:51 ↗ eckhouse on the most part and a very

2:54 ↗ fascinating story for me because I

2:55 ↗ actually was on Council when we adopted

2:57 ↗ the master plan for a conference Park

3:00 ↗ and so it's still unfolding which is

3:02 ↗ really good a year uh the uh

3:06 ↗ I've had a couple conversations with

3:08 ↗ director Watling and Jennifer joined us

3:12 ↗ once as well so the well breathed and I

3:14 ↗ haven't looked at the material ahead of

3:16 ↗ time the History Museum

3:18 ↗ history museums is not our board hasn't

3:21 ↗ taken like a formal position on what's

3:23 ↗ going on we're grateful for the dialogue

3:26 ↗ that we have we plan and I'm going to

3:28 ↗ continue to invest to kind of be that

3:31 ↗ partner who helps tell the historic

3:34 ↗ story and I wanted and I brought

3:37 ↗ something from from our Research Center

3:40 ↗ I wanted to share with you about the

3:41 ↗ deck house which I hope influences some

3:44 ↗ of what you're thinking about the

3:46 ↗ portion of this of the work you're going

3:49 ↗ to do the X who actually built this the

3:53 ↗ immigrants

3:54 ↗ um

3:56 ↗ Christina and Anton at

3:58 ↗ here's a photo of them from the 19th so

4:02 ↗ like it was in the 1990 or so Issaquah

4:06 ↗ press as the photo of the five daughters

4:09 ↗ that grew to adulthood five sons that

4:11 ↗ grew to adulthood the youngest son here

4:14 ↗ on the right Walter

4:16 ↗ um and uh I don't know anything about

4:18 ↗ his wife but they had two children

4:21 ↗ and uh one of whom is still living in

4:25 ↗ this apartment so a granddaughter of the

4:28 ↗ people but the immigrants who built this

4:30 ↗ house

4:31 ↗ and um I visited her on Friday last

4:35 ↗ Friday

4:36 ↗ actually Thursday and and

4:40 ↗ um it was a fascinating discussion and

4:43 ↗ one of the um things that we talked

4:46 ↗ about was her memories as a child in the

4:48 ↗ house

4:49 ↗ she was not able to get around too much

4:52 ↗ too well and had Revisited it didn't

4:54 ↗ realize that there was a nice playground

4:56 ↗ right here we talked about that we

4:58 ↗ talked about I told her updated a little

5:00 ↗ bit about what was going on to the

5:02 ↗ former house that she remembered and

5:04 ↗ remembers that she shared with me had to

5:07 ↗ do for young kid especially remembering

5:10 ↗ celebrating birthday parties

5:13 ↗ and her grandmother and grandfather's

5:15 ↗ house and playing in the wash house

5:18 ↗ during birthday parties so and um

5:23 ↗ I think that so that's a real part of

5:26 ↗ the history of that house

5:27 ↗ and this this connection

5:31 ↗ in this idea that um

5:35 ↗ any work could result in a space that

5:39 ↗ really encourages the welcoming and fun

5:42 ↗ and able to support our notes you know

5:45 ↗ children posting birthday parties at the

5:47 ↗ playground and there's a there's a safe

5:50 ↗ facility for them to have that and it's

5:52 ↗ part of what women do here even a little

5:54 ↗ my mind even a little mock-up of the

5:56 ↗ Wash House that I think that she

5:58 ↗ remember playing in but but that's so

6:00 ↗ that's part of our own history from

6:02 ↗ somebody who grew up here which I we

6:04 ↗ didn't even know

6:05 ↗ beforehand that a Living member was here

6:08 ↗ in the community so so that that was one

6:11 ↗ story I wanted to share with you which I

6:13 ↗ like very much

6:14 ↗ um and I

6:16 ↗ I've learned a little bit recently I

6:18 ↗ know that the consideration of

6:20 ↗ landmarking it I know the buildings that

6:23 ↗ we're managing are the exteriors are

6:25 ↗ landmarks at work you'll be a

6:27 ↗ landmarking commission individual and

6:29 ↗ I've learned a bit about you know what

6:31 ↗ we do on the inside of those buildings

6:33 ↗ like the Oldman Town Hall in particular

6:35 ↗ is really about

6:38 ↗ allowing us to fulfill our mission as an

6:41 ↗ organization and the outside which is

6:43 ↗ landmark that's where the restrictions

6:45 ↗ are do apply in terms of what type of

6:48 ↗ Maintenance you can do what type of

6:50 ↗ changes you can do

6:52 ↗ is the now speaking just for myself this

6:55 ↗ idea that there would be a really well

6:58 ↗ maintained historical building there

7:01 ↗ that has a historic that has a clear

7:03 ↗ story told with it and yet it is now

7:07 ↗ integrated into the community in a way

7:10 ↗ especially those that enjoy the park I

7:13 ↗ think that's a that's a really nice

7:14 ↗ outcome and the last thing I wanted to

7:16 ↗ mention as well is we just talk about

7:19 ↗ like the app family that period of time

7:22 ↗ is a small slice of time in the history

7:25 ↗ of this location right we're talking

7:27 ↗ about the first White Sellers from

7:29 ↗ Europe that arrived there I haven't done

7:32 ↗ any research and I can't bring you

7:33 ↗ anything about uh you know the

7:36 ↗ impersonation people that lived there

7:38 ↗ for for a time of Memorial beforehand or

7:41 ↗ even along with that the Natural History

7:43 ↗ before all of that but this idea that

7:46 ↗ the current shape of this location

7:49 ↗ um you know which really took on its

7:51 ↗ characterization characters uh after

7:54 ↗ since the Ice Age and the relations from

7:56 ↗ the treatment there's a natural history

7:57 ↗ story

7:59 ↗ there's there's a European civil acceler

8:02 ↗ Story and there's a more current story

8:04 ↗ and wouldn't that be wonderful not only

8:06 ↗ kids enjoying birthday parties but

8:08 ↗ learning about all of this history as as

8:11 ↗ part of the work that you do here

8:13 ↗ and and uh so there's a lot more history

8:16 ↗ in that you know there's something the

8:18 ↗ hot sweater was there and there's some

8:20 ↗ possibilities of negatives

8:25 ↗ to find ways to hopefully uh add and

8:29 ↗ tell elements of the entire history of

8:32 ↗ that area not just the most recent uh

8:34 ↗ way to Celebration

8:39 ↗ thank you

8:42 ↗ okay okay

8:48 ↗ um I will I suppose segue off of

8:52 ↗ eckhouse uh I think the money

8:56 ↗ needs to go first house we already have

8:59 ↗ a picnic shelter we already have a

9:01 ↗ playground

9:02 ↗ uh the park was not meant to have a lot

9:05 ↗ of playground in it when I established

9:08 ↗ on women's part it's supposed to be a

9:10 ↗ passive Park not here's the active so I

9:15 ↗ would say that getting the foundations

9:17 ↗ done and getting eckhouse into something

9:20 ↗ that can be preserved rather than doing

9:23 ↗ this other work and hoping for funding

9:26 ↗ in the future as Egg House decays

9:29 ↗ further in the park is an unwise

9:33 ↗ decision

9:34 ↗ so then we're going to go to The

9:39 ↗ Pedestrian Park and the shelter and

9:42 ↗ while I like the new

9:45 ↗ sinuous

9:46 ↗ feel of pedestrian art I looked at the

9:51 ↗ picture and said wow that's a lot going

9:53 ↗ on in a park that is so narrow and so I

9:56 ↗ would this the scale of all of that

9:59 ↗ seems a bit off so I'm going to think

10:02 ↗ about maybe dropping an element in the

10:05 ↗ narratives of that part

10:07 ↗ um I I don't see the history still in

10:09 ↗ the shelter I'm not sure what those are

10:14 ↗ supposed to be but they don't evoke

10:16 ↗ anything and maybe watering

10:21 ↗ yeah

10:22 ↗ that's really the construct so

10:24 ↗ not yeah whatever so then I'm going to

10:29 ↗ go to the capital

10:31 ↗ um

10:32 ↗ prioritization

10:35 ↗ it's fascinating because I've been

10:39 ↗ through the capitol re-prioritization

10:41 ↗ maybe eight times six times I don't know

10:44 ↗ how many times and yet the same thing

10:46 ↗ happens

10:47 ↗ it's a prioritization

10:51 ↗ charts did not reflect my reality of

10:54 ↗ what community prioritizes and as a

10:58 ↗ little confused about legal commitments

11:01 ↗ I don't know that weight finding is a

11:03 ↗ legal commitment I'm pretty sure new

11:04 ↗ park signs are not a community priority

11:08 ↗ in places that we already have them and

11:11 ↗ so to me it feels like yeah we're doing

11:14 ↗ the same things we always did we're

11:16 ↗ doing what somebody wants to do and then

11:19 ↗ it was one area it says and we are

11:22 ↗ looking to a new funding source

11:25 ↗ so here here I say wow if you look at

11:29 ↗ all of the cips not just the park cips

11:32 ↗ and you calculate the amount of funding

11:35 ↗ this city wants to spend near term in

11:39 ↗ this net CIP it is going to blow here

11:41 ↗ flipping socks off and then you look at

11:44 ↗ the community and you say how much are

11:47 ↗ they willing to spend on all of these

11:50 ↗ things and where are they going to want

11:51 ↗ to spend it and try to look at this list

11:54 ↗ with a jaundiced eye and they're

11:57 ↗ supposed to be a thing can it actually

11:59 ↗ happen but that actually happen thing is

12:02 ↗ really quite Green in many places which

12:05 ↗ I don't think that that is actually true

12:07 ↗ given given our current funding source

12:10 ↗ and Concepts so

12:13 ↗ um I'm not surprised by the whole thing

12:16 ↗ because this is exactly what has

12:17 ↗ happened the last however many times we

12:19 ↗ did the capital Improvement plan but

12:22 ↗ never hopeful so uh again fun house

12:26 ↗ don't fund the excess play areas that we

12:28 ↗ already have examples of in that Park

12:30 ↗ let's actually do something historic

12:32 ↗ which is what y'all promise the

12:34 ↗ community so many years ago and at this

12:37 ↗ point in time you've only done that it's

12:39 ↗ only gotten destroyed rather than saved

12:42 ↗ thanks

12:51 ↗ Corey Christensen I also live on squawk

12:54 ↗ and I want to comment both about the

12:57 ↗ senior center Depot project and the heck

13:00 ↗ house I'll start with the uh Senior

13:04 ↗ Center project what bothers me about

13:06 ↗ that about the project is the Veterans

13:09 ↗ Monument

13:10 ↗ and given that we're spending I think

13:14 ↗ it's four million dollars now with the

13:15 ↗ latest price increase for the broader

13:18 ↗ project I think that that Monument needs

13:21 ↗ to be highlighted and meaning you're

13:24 ↗ building this Plaza in front of the

13:26 ↗ senior center and historically all of

13:29 ↗ the land that the senior center on was

13:30 ↗ once part of Memorial Field and there

13:33 ↗ was actually some controversy years ago

13:35 ↗ when it was like the library that

13:39 ↗ um people in the public came and came

13:42 ↗ out and were concerned that they were

13:43 ↗ losing field space now we're not

13:46 ↗ re-re-mitigating that or anything all

13:49 ↗ the point is is the ground we're talking

13:51 ↗ about is all

13:53 ↗ Memorial Field and related to that

13:56 ↗ Memorial and so for spending this much

13:58 ↗ money that that Memorial needs to be a

14:01 ↗ centerpiece in this in this Plaza right

14:04 ↗ now it's just in a parking strip and it

14:07 ↗ shouldn't it shouldn't be much to move

14:09 ↗ it where the flagpole and Memorial are a

14:13 ↗ centerpiece because really

14:15 ↗ um having people look and think about

14:19 ↗ that Memorial is a really important

14:21 ↗ thing and it's an important thing for

14:23 ↗ many of the city goals

14:26 ↗ history but also Equity you know there's

14:28 ↗ a woman on that Monument there's people

14:32 ↗ that aren't on the monument that could

14:34 ↗ be one is a

14:36 ↗ that's all missing from the Korean War

14:38 ↗ who was uh his mother was an Alaska

14:41 ↗ native and so there's actually a lot of

14:43 ↗ stories that could be told

14:46 ↗ um about that that

14:48 ↗ the you know the whole thing is that

14:51 ↗ these people are forgotten and to bring

14:55 ↗ their stories out just by people seeing

14:57 ↗ them possibly thinking about them is

14:59 ↗ important and with all the money that

15:01 ↗ we're spending it wouldn't be much of a

15:03 ↗ design change to nudge that over 10 feet

15:06 ↗ 15 feet and get the approval of the VFW

15:09 ↗ guys and the veterans and community and

15:11 ↗ make this a really a special place

15:15 ↗ um that Kennels

15:17 ↗ first I want to

15:19 ↗ um thank you guys there's some progress

15:21 ↗ because we're previously it's going to

15:23 ↗ be a picnic shelter and totally gone and

15:26 ↗ so moving forward to where we're at now

15:29 ↗ is is is a great step forward however

15:32 ↗ you really need to take it and push it

15:34 ↗ one step further maybe more than one

15:37 ↗ step in that making a firm commitment to

15:39 ↗ do something with it because the

15:42 ↗ entirety of the Confluence part master

15:45 ↗ plan and Community meetings that were

15:48 ↗ held which were very well attended there

15:51 ↗ were three of them it was not that long

15:53 ↗ ago 10-12 years ago the historical

15:56 ↗ elements were all a key part of that and

15:59 ↗ we've already through you know a number

16:01 ↗ of reasons lost some of those historical

16:04 ↗ elements Anderson house the barn things

16:06 ↗ like that and the promise was that that

16:09 ↗ would be centered in the heck house that

16:11 ↗ I was looking at your uh

16:14 ↗ slides on what could be in the egg house

16:17 ↗ there's one thing that alternative that

16:20 ↗ is left out I mean you have some

16:22 ↗ beautiful options but they're very

16:24 ↗ expensive the one uh thing that or

16:27 ↗ building in the city that would be could

16:30 ↗ be similar just as an option is the is

16:32 ↗ the trail house it's across from the

16:35 ↗ Parks Department

16:36 ↗ administrative building which is another

16:39 ↗ similar house in age outside your store

16:42 ↗ inside is just a very simple meeting

16:44 ↗ room

16:45 ↗ but we've lost that meeting room it's

16:47 ↗ now the parks department is using it for

16:49 ↗ authors and previously what that room

16:51 ↗ was was a was a place that you could go

16:53 ↗ to the community center and if you were

16:55 ↗ a non-profit you could check out a key

16:57 ↗ and use it and so one of the the

17:00 ↗ uses that the you know eckhouse was

17:04 ↗ discussed 10 12 years ago was having a

17:07 ↗ place where the Girl Scouts could meet

17:08 ↗ or the quilting Club can meet and it

17:10 ↗ wasn't as Grand and fast fancy as what

17:13 ↗ was proposed but it was still a historic

17:17 ↗ building and a place where people could

17:18 ↗ meet for free because there really is no

17:20 ↗ place in Issaquah that Community groups

17:22 ↗ can can be for free the other part that

17:25 ↗ is not in there is that

17:27 ↗ some of our other historic buildings

17:30 ↗ were restored by the community

17:32 ↗ namely Greg Springer and the DIA people

17:36 ↗ and that's the the two two that are come

17:40 ↗ to mind or the train depot

17:42 ↗ and the Shell station uh Hailstone feed

17:45 ↗ store and they also have have done

17:48 ↗ volunteers have done a lot of work on

17:51 ↗ other historic buildings in Issaquah and

17:54 ↗ there's an option that

17:56 ↗ you know the community could rebuild the

18:00 ↗ eckhouse and an example of that is in

18:03 ↗ Sammamish there's a similar house called

18:06 ↗ the rear house that the Samana Heritage

18:08 ↗ Society the community four culture King

18:12 ↗ County Historical grants and the

18:15 ↗ Sammamish parks department have all

18:17 ↗ collaborated and that's about to open

18:19 ↗ now and that is there one

18:21 ↗ landmark building in Sammamish and that

18:24 ↗ is a model that the eckhouse could go

18:26 ↗ under if or could could follow that

18:28 ↗ would be much cheaper than the 1.2

18:31 ↗ million dollars not quite as fancy but

18:34 ↗ enough to make it so it's not a derelict

18:36 ↗ building

18:37 ↗ so in conclusion of the app house I mean

18:40 ↗ I think there needs to be

18:43 ↗ higher level of commitment to do

18:45 ↗ something

18:46 ↗ if I were sitting at the table I would

18:49 ↗ want the eight hundred thousand dollars

18:51 ↗ split worth 600 000 of it goes to the

18:54 ↗ playground and the whatever else the

18:57 ↗ plaza thing and 200 000 goes to the

19:00 ↗ eckhouse to fix its foundation and do

19:03 ↗ some basic things to get it so it's not

19:06 ↗ a barrel Equity because what's sad is is

19:08 ↗ you got this new beautiful structure and

19:11 ↗ Plaza next to this derelict building and

19:14 ↗ it also from a

19:17 ↗ community perspective the parts

19:19 ↗ department the city really needs to

19:21 ↗ follow through whether with their past

19:24 ↗ promises and bring the Egg House forward

19:27 ↗ so people can use it anyway thank you

19:30 ↗ and I appreciate all your time and

19:32 ↗ efforts

19:37 ↗ any other comments in the room

19:42 ↗ okay

19:44 ↗ um I believe so one on we do have a few

19:48 ↗ people joining us online um if anybody

19:50 ↗ would like to make public comments

19:51 ↗ online you can feel free to unmute

19:54 ↗ yourself

19:54 ↗ um and turn your camera on if you'd like

19:57 ↗ um and we'll give it a couple of minutes

20:12 ↗ I don't see any activity so I think we

20:16 ↗ can move on if you did have comments

20:18 ↗ feel free you can uh write those in

20:20 ↗ either too myself or to the cardboard

20:24 ↗ okay so uh moving forward to the 2024 to

20:27 ↗ 2029 draft cids for parks and trails

20:31 ↗ Japanese

20:33 ↗ great well I think that's me then let me

20:37 ↗ try to pull up my presentation here

20:46 ↗ um

20:58 ↗ all right good evening everybody uh my

21:02 ↗ name is Andrea Snyder I'm the deputy

21:04 ↗ City administrator

21:06 ↗ um I uh as the deputy City administrator

21:09 ↗ some of my responsibilities include

21:11 ↗ long-term financial planning for the

21:13 ↗ city when it comes to Capital assets and

21:15 ↗ infrastructure and so you uh some of you

21:19 ↗ were at our board Summit that we held

21:22 ↗ last February on rcip and we talked

21:26 ↗ about criteria this is a follow-up to

21:28 ↗ that conversation today with me I also

21:31 ↗ have Susie monsell who is the city's

21:34 ↗ budget manager and also she leads the

21:38 ↗ CIP development for us in the city so

21:40 ↗ thank you Susie for being here

21:43 ↗ um and we want to talk about what is in

21:45 ↗ the draft CIP so far when it comes to

21:48 ↗ parks and trails and that's the focus

21:51 ↗ area that I'm asking for some feedback

21:53 ↗ from you all this evening

21:55 ↗ um I want to start off by saying that

21:57 ↗ the CIA P draft is not complete so

22:00 ↗ you'll notice in your packet that you're

22:01 ↗ able to take a look at that there's no

22:03 ↗ actual CIP draft in there and that's

22:05 ↗ because we are still creating it in fact

22:09 ↗ Susie is working on that when she's not

22:12 ↗ here in this room of putting all those

22:15 ↗ pieces together so the information that

22:17 ↗ we shared with you in your packet is not

22:19 ↗ even hot off the presses it's before it

22:21 ↗ even gets to the presses and that's why

22:24 ↗ there were so many different attachments

22:26 ↗ for you this evening because we're still

22:27 ↗ compiling it all and putting it all

22:29 ↗ together

22:30 ↗ um and so the draft will be complete and

22:33 ↗ released May 1st which does not sign a

22:37 ↗ squeezy into a panic spiral so that's

22:38 ↗ good I think we're on track

22:41 ↗ um but that's when we'll have the draft

22:43 ↗ whole and complete and ready

22:46 ↗ um for more discussion at that point so

22:48 ↗ tonight though we do have a focus on

22:51 ↗ parks and trails and what parks and

22:53 ↗ trails projects are within that six-year

22:55 ↗ plan for the CIP so that's what we're

22:57 ↗ going to be talking about in relation to

22:59 ↗ the new criteria that we have uh to that

23:02 ↗ we use to vet projects that go into the

23:05 ↗ CIP

23:09 ↗ and this is when I slides are supposed

23:13 ↗ to advance

23:15 ↗ okay great

23:17 ↗ um so agenda for this evening we'll talk

23:19 ↗ about the direction and feedback we're

23:21 ↗ looking for you all I want to give a

23:24 ↗ brief background on the CIP process as a

23:27 ↗ reminder we'll talk about an overview of

23:29 ↗ what's in the CIP some new things for

23:32 ↗ parks and Trail especially uh near-term

23:35 ↗ projects and planned Investments and

23:38 ↗ then we'll get to the discussion and

23:39 ↗ feedback uh and also talk about what is

23:42 ↗ coming next

23:44 ↗ so

23:46 ↗ we are really looking for feedback on

23:48 ↗ how these criteria were applied so we're

23:52 ↗ not talking about feedback on individual

23:55 ↗ projects per se we're really just

23:57 ↗ wondering the new criteria that we have

23:59 ↗ how did we do in applying them are there

24:01 ↗ any surprises that you felt

24:05 ↗ um do you think that you missed

24:07 ↗ something and how we applied the

24:09 ↗ criteria as you were able to hopefully

24:11 ↗ review that before this evening

24:14 ↗ and

24:15 ↗ um you know my understanding is that

24:16 ↗ you've already talked uh as a park board

24:19 ↗ about many of these projects so it

24:20 ↗ shouldn't be none of these projects

24:22 ↗ should be a huge surprise to you

24:24 ↗ um and again what we're really looking

24:26 ↗ for feedback on is about the criteria we

24:29 ↗ were to use them again what changes

24:31 ↗ should we consider did we miss anything

24:32 ↗ big and how do we applied them attack

24:37 ↗ um so first before we get into that

24:38 ↗ discussion uh just a reminder the CIP

24:41 ↗ the capital Improvement plan is a

24:44 ↗ planning document it's not a budget so

24:47 ↗ all of this is just what's in the plans

24:49 ↗ how are we lining this up for the budget

24:50 ↗ uh to be put into action later so things

24:53 ↗ on this list for the next six years and

24:56 ↗ what is on the list for the out years

24:59 ↗ um is is subject to change but this is

25:02 ↗ kind of our best guess so far

25:07 ↗ um a reminder you should probably

25:08 ↗ recognize this lovely image that hasanti

25:11 ↗ helped create for us

25:13 ↗ um from the board Summit and what this

25:16 ↗ talks about are the steps through

25:18 ↗ um that we're taking to the form to get

25:20 ↗ to a capital project right so we have

25:22 ↗ the 20-year master plan or in this case

25:25 ↗ the park strategic plan which I know we

25:27 ↗ are updating again this year but we look

25:30 ↗ at that far out picture that is where

25:31 ↗ the park board and others in the

25:33 ↗ community are able to influence what

25:35 ↗ projects what policies are we

25:37 ↗ considering for that big

25:38 ↗ long-term Vision uh then we use that

25:42 ↗ strategic plan to formulate what's in

25:44 ↗ the sixth year CIP we go we use the

25:47 ↗ criteria to prioritize What's um what

25:50 ↗ goes into that six-year CNP so that

25:52 ↗ middle uh trapezoid is where we are

25:56 ↗ today and then we use that six year CIP

26:00 ↗ to help formulate our two-year budget

26:02 ↗ and to really figure out okay out of

26:04 ↗ that six-year CIP now have better

26:07 ↗ Revenue estimates now we really know how

26:09 ↗ much things are going to cost what can

26:10 ↗ we actually get done in the next two

26:13 ↗ years and then we go into the funded

26:15 ↗ Capital project and sometimes I think

26:16 ↗ the the park board has some more

26:18 ↗ feedback into exactly what that project

26:19 ↗ looks like on that level as well so

26:22 ↗ that's the general process for how

26:24 ↗ projects can become real from Vision to

26:27 ↗ implementation and we are in that middle

26:31 ↗ little box

26:35 ↗ okay

26:36 ↗ um background so changes since the last

26:39 ↗ CIP we do a big CIP update every two

26:42 ↗ years and changes since last time we had

26:45 ↗ a Capital Finance Community task force

26:48 ↗ Brad uh books sat on that uh task force

26:52 ↗ to represent the park board that uh

26:54 ↗ concluded in 2021 and the task force had

26:58 ↗ a couple of recommendations they

26:59 ↗ recommended the city do more to invest

27:01 ↗ in infrastructure including the pursuit

27:04 ↗ of new Revenue tools to help us do more

27:07 ↗ the task force also recommended and

27:10 ↗ stated that mobility and transportation

27:12 ↗ was a first priority for the city but

27:14 ↗ that parks and trails and Facilities

27:16 ↗ were also really important

27:19 ↗ um and also since the last CIP we've

27:23 ↗ adopted new and criteria and we have

27:26 ↗ tried to improve the criteria

27:29 ↗ um that was carried over from past years

27:31 ↗ we've also added this red yellow green

27:33 ↗ grading before it was check the box yes

27:37 ↗ or no do you meet this criteria so we've

27:39 ↗ tried to raise the bar on which projects

27:42 ↗ really need it how well are they needing

27:44 ↗ it and have us think about these things

27:47 ↗ um so we've tried to incorporate both of

27:50 ↗ these uh recommendations from the task

27:53 ↗ force as well as the new criteria into

27:55 ↗ how we drafted the CIP trying to take

27:57 ↗ all of those things together

28:00 ↗ um with figuring out which projects we

28:02 ↗ can do in the next six years

28:05 ↗ so here are the new uh criteria that we

28:08 ↗ talked about at the board Summit

28:10 ↗ um there was a follow-up memo that I

28:12 ↗ think director Watling went over

28:14 ↗ um

28:15 ↗ uh that spoke to these criteria how they

28:19 ↗ were changed from the board Summit so

28:20 ↗ I'm not going to get into those details

28:22 ↗ with you tonight that information is

28:24 ↗ available in your packet so you can see

28:27 ↗ more information on what the criteria

28:29 ↗ are what they mean what is part of the

28:32 ↗ red yellow green thresholds and Grading

28:34 ↗ and how we determined that what I want

28:37 ↗ to say is how we've used these new

28:38 ↗ criteria so when we ask staff to submit

28:41 ↗ projects for consideration into the CIP

28:44 ↗ we asked the staff to go through their

28:47 ↗ criteria and self rate so did they think

28:50 ↗ that this project was a red yellow and

28:51 ↗ green and so Jen Fink or wonderful gen

28:54 ↗ Fink had to do a lot of that for the

28:56 ↗ parks and trails project so if you have

28:58 ↗ questions about why something's graded

29:01 ↗ one way or another hopefully gen can

29:03 ↗ help Enlighten and Enlighten us on those

29:06 ↗ questions

29:08 ↗ um once staff self-graded Finance was

29:12 ↗ kind of an independent party overseeing

29:14 ↗ that too so they reviewed those gradings

29:16 ↗ tried to check for consistency across

29:18 ↗ the organization that kind of thing

29:20 ↗ looked at scores worked with departments

29:22 ↗ more

29:24 ↗ um but you know

29:25 ↗ this is our first year applying these

29:27 ↗ types of criteria in this way and I know

29:29 ↗ that one of the pieces of feedback from

29:31 ↗ this board was

29:33 ↗ um you know red yellow and green it's

29:35 ↗ not very nuanced we want to have more

29:37 ↗ Nuance to that conversation and maybe

29:40 ↗ there should be some waiting associated

29:42 ↗ with this and so you know I think what

29:43 ↗ we took a look at is

29:46 ↗ um it shows the time not to wait each of

29:48 ↗ these individual criteria but there were

29:50 ↗ times where if you look through some of

29:53 ↗ the attachments in your packet you'll

29:55 ↗ see that sometimes things rated kind of

29:58 ↗ low in one category but maybe legal

30:01 ↗ mandate or life and safety concerns

30:03 ↗ really outweighed some of the criteria

30:05 ↗ that's especially true in things like

30:08 ↗ utility infrastructure for example

30:11 ↗ um for infrastructure related to Public

30:13 ↗ Safety and so

30:15 ↗ um so sometimes those waited a lot more

30:17 ↗ in that project and that was there's a

30:20 ↗ bit of an art in how we applied some of

30:22 ↗ these criteria

30:24 ↗ um we also heard feedback from this

30:26 ↗ board about accessibility and ability

30:28 ↗ for those who may be colorblind to see

30:31 ↗ red yellow and green and some of the

30:33 ↗ public information that's something

30:35 ↗ we've received I think as Susie prepares

30:36 ↗ the draft we're going to have colors but

30:39 ↗ we'll also have patterns associated with

30:40 ↗ the color so even if somebody can't

30:42 ↗ distinguish red yellow and green they'll

30:44 ↗ be able to see okay this pattern

30:46 ↗ um means essentially green this pattern

30:49 ↗ means essentially yellow so that should

30:50 ↗ help that and plus the metadata should

30:52 ↗ help improve the accessibility and

30:54 ↗ breathability of the color scheme even

30:57 ↗ for those that may be colored one

31:03 ↗ any questions so far

31:06 ↗ question about the long-standing

31:08 ↗ commitment yeah to the new thank you

31:10 ↗ yeah element and

31:13 ↗ um

31:14 ↗ if you could

31:16 ↗ trying to go back there we go yeah so um

31:19 ↗ that

31:21 ↗ to me I was

31:22 ↗ um I was thinking when I read when I

31:25 ↗ read through this that it would apply to

31:28 ↗ um perhaps like finished projects that

31:30 ↗ aren't quite finished or you know like

31:32 ↗ when we have like a particular phase at

31:35 ↗ a like in a master plan that like hasn't

31:38 ↗ been done so like the egg house would be

31:40 ↗ a perfect example of this right like

31:42 ↗ it's in a phase of a part that has

31:44 ↗ pretty much been complete the only part

31:48 ↗ of that master plan and that phasing

31:50 ↗ that hasn't been complete is that house

31:52 ↗ we have another phase of Confluence art

31:55 ↗ that we haven't you know that requires

31:57 ↗ removal of the shop and everything to in

31:59 ↗ order to activate but so in my mind it

32:02 ↗ would be nice to have

32:04 ↗ you know some some sort of priority like

32:06 ↗ that also reflected

32:08 ↗ um so that we are actually completing

32:10 ↗ the projects that we start and

32:13 ↗ you know not ending up with

32:15 ↗ um something that has languished and you

32:18 ↗ know

32:19 ↗ deteriorated in the meantime yeah I I

32:22 ↗ think that's a great comment and I'd

32:24 ↗ love to pass that on

32:27 ↗ top a little about

32:29 ↗ that this is something as we met with

32:32 ↗ the boards and talked about criteria

32:33 ↗ we'd also met with the city council and

32:36 ↗ they um really wanted to put something

32:37 ↗ in uh the criteria speaking to this

32:40 ↗ long-standing commitment we we asked

32:42 ↗ them to try to Define it a little

32:44 ↗ further they had some difficulty in the

32:47 ↗ moment doing it and what we settled on

32:49 ↗ was that they wanted us to come back

32:51 ↗ with a list of a prior commitments that

32:55 ↗ the city had made and then they would um

32:57 ↗ kind of discuss that list and choose

32:58 ↗ amongst that list and that conversation

33:01 ↗ is slated to happen in May at some point

33:05 ↗ um so they haven't defined it further

33:07 ↗ it's pretty nebulous

33:09 ↗ um we weren't really able to apply it

33:11 ↗ during kind of that staff process that

33:13 ↗ is something that city council is going

33:15 ↗ to weigh in on later but I would love to

33:17 ↗ cast on your comments then because I

33:18 ↗ think that that makes a lot of sense

33:20 ↗ yeah and I'm sure it's different in

33:22 ↗ every different part of the city but for

33:24 ↗ us it would be nice to you know there's

33:27 ↗ certain things that just keep getting

33:28 ↗ pushed and pushed and pushed and like

33:30 ↗ well at some point we need to do it yeah

33:32 ↗ yeah great thank you

33:35 ↗ just making note of that

33:38 ↗ great

33:40 ↗ uh so

33:44 ↗ uh a general overview for the CIP

33:47 ↗ overall not just parks and trails

33:50 ↗ projects but in general one of the

33:53 ↗ themes that we have is that there's a

33:54 ↗ lot more funding and attention and focus

33:57 ↗ on maintenance programs that we've had

33:59 ↗ in the past so we've been trying to make

34:03 ↗ sure that we're actually maintaining our

34:05 ↗ infrastructure I think one of the things

34:07 ↗ that director Watling may have said to

34:10 ↗ you in the past

34:11 ↗ um

34:12 ↗ is that you know our developments in

34:14 ↗ Issaquah a lot of our infrastructure not

34:17 ↗ just Parks a lot in streets

34:20 ↗ um and utilities uh was built privately

34:24 ↗ by private development and they

34:26 ↗ developed it but now it's been over 10

34:29 ↗ years since the school Highlands was

34:30 ↗ developed it's been over 10 years since

34:32 ↗ Dallas has developed and we're getting

34:34 ↗ to a place where

34:35 ↗ um

34:36 ↗ where we need to uh we don't have all

34:40 ↗ this new infrastructuring or we need to

34:41 ↗ maintain stuff that was built much of it

34:43 ↗ was built by other private development

34:45 ↗ Community originally

34:46 ↗ um of course we also have our own assets

34:48 ↗ that we've built a while ago and need to

34:50 ↗ maintain so um you and we're trying to

34:53 ↗ plan more and more for maintenance and

34:55 ↗ make sure we're doing a better job of

34:56 ↗ that so you'll see more funding more

34:58 ↗ Focus for maintenance programs in the

35:00 ↗ past and that was one of the criteria

35:02 ↗ that we had

35:03 ↗ um so you'll see a lot to address that

35:06 ↗ uh the CIP also responds to feedback

35:08 ↗ from the city council from the task

35:11 ↗ force that we should be making more

35:13 ↗ investments in our infrastructure

35:14 ↗ overall we need to maintain yes but also

35:17 ↗ build new this is a growing Community

35:20 ↗ um

35:21 ↗ and so they also wanted to make sure

35:23 ↗ that the plan was achievable and years

35:25 ↗ past we've bitten off a lot more than we

35:28 ↗ can chew in our efforts to be ambitious

35:30 ↗ and be responsive to feedback we've

35:32 ↗ heard from the community

35:34 ↗ um and this year we tried to take extra

35:36 ↗ care to say okay what do we have the

35:39 ↗ financial resources to do what also do

35:40 ↗ we have the people resources to do

35:43 ↗ um what where maybe are there issues

35:46 ↗ with supply chain because the global

35:47 ↗ supply chain is still complicated to

35:50 ↗ navigate these days and how is that

35:52 ↗ impacting our projects and what we're

35:54 ↗ able to get done so we tried to take a

35:56 ↗ look at all of those components we'll

35:57 ↗ also

35:58 ↗ again wanting to respond to feedback

36:02 ↗ that we need to make more Investments

36:04 ↗ um and as a result uh this CIP

36:07 ↗ anticipates new revenues and so I think

36:11 ↗ we heard public comments this evening

36:12 ↗ speaking to that that's absolutely right

36:15 ↗ um we have heard from the task force

36:18 ↗ from Council that this community wants

36:20 ↗ to talk about new revenues to fund

36:22 ↗ infrastructure so this CIP anticipates

36:25 ↗ that conversation for transportation as

36:29 ↗ the task force recommended that was the

36:32 ↗ first priority and So within this CIP we

36:35 ↗ will be asking a council to consider a

36:38 ↗ one percent uh sales tax for

36:41 ↗ transportation related projects I'm

36:43 ↗ sorry thank you 0.1 percent much smaller

36:47 ↗ than one percent thank you Susie I

36:50 ↗ appreciate that correction

36:52 ↗ 0.1 there's a very big difference

36:56 ↗ um and that's something that we're going

36:58 ↗ to be talking to council about a lot

37:00 ↗ more moving forward we also need to take

37:03 ↗ a look at how to find under Public

37:04 ↗ Safety facilities municipal courts the

37:08 ↗ police station is busting at the seams

37:11 ↗ we have a fire station we need to build

37:13 ↗ there's some significant Public Safety

37:16 ↗ facility needs that we need to figure

37:18 ↗ out how to fund we'll be talking more

37:20 ↗ with Council about that as we move

37:22 ↗ forward and parks and trails so if you

37:24 ↗ took a look at that list and when those

37:27 ↗ lists of projects were planned in the

37:29 ↗ next six years you may have seen that

37:33 ↗ uh stability to the next life you may

37:36 ↗ have seen that a lot of those parks and

37:37 ↗ trails projects were listed for 2027

37:40 ↗ 2028 2029 later years in the CIP and

37:44 ↗ this is because we are anticipating uh

37:48 ↗ potentially a public vote for new

37:51 ↗ Revenue to help pay for parks and trails

37:53 ↗ projects so we haven't planned out

37:56 ↗ exactly what that vote could look like

37:58 ↗ what exactly is in that package like

38:00 ↗ several years from now

38:02 ↗ um but that is something that we are

38:03 ↗ anticipating as trying to find a new

38:05 ↗ Revenue so that we can do more for parks

38:07 ↗ and trails and I think you've probably

38:09 ↗ heard

38:10 ↗ um follow-ups from the uh the task force

38:13 ↗ discussion there was some discussion

38:14 ↗ recommendation from the Community

38:17 ↗ Capital Finance task force on

38:19 ↗ Metropolitan Parks District uh that will

38:22 ↗ be something we'll be discussing more

38:23 ↗ but I wanted to make sure to highlight

38:25 ↗ that for you tonight that this this is

38:27 ↗ anticipated in the CIP that we want to

38:29 ↗ move that forward and have those

38:31 ↗ discussions in the next six years

38:33 ↗ um and really looking at that

38:35 ↗ 2027-2028 uh years to contemplate that

38:39 ↗ so

38:40 ↗ um that's uh that's

38:43 ↗ pretty exciting and ambitious for us but

38:46 ↗ we've heard from the community that they

38:49 ↗ want more investments in public

38:51 ↗ infrastructure and so we're trying to

38:52 ↗ figure out how to respond to that and

38:54 ↗ how to pay for it

38:56 ↗ um

38:57 ↗ so CIP overview for parks and trails

39:00 ↗ specifically it follows the same theme

39:04 ↗ as the overall CIP so we have more

39:07 ↗ emphasis on maintenance and replacement

39:08 ↗ programs within the parks and trails CIP

39:12 ↗ um we're going to talk about those in

39:13 ↗ just a second but um so you'll see more

39:16 ↗ of that in parks and trails other than

39:19 ↗ that we have uh 20 parks and coil parks

39:22 ↗ and trails programs or projects

39:24 ↗ recommended in the six-year plan overall

39:26 ↗ and

39:28 ↗ um almost all Park and trail projects

39:31 ↗ scored high in the following criteria

39:34 ↗ Community priority community livability

39:36 ↗ and quality of life and replacement or

39:39 ↗ maintenance

39:40 ↗ and so we had some really a well-scoring

39:43 ↗ Park and trail projects

39:46 ↗ um and we already talked about how many

39:48 ↗ projects are planned for 2027 Plus

39:54 ↗ so

40:00 ↗ term 2024 to 2026 when we look at this

40:04 ↗ VIP it's a six-year plan

40:06 ↗ and we also have projects planned for

40:09 ↗ future out years Beyond those six years

40:10 ↗ because we want to be looking

40:12 ↗ um out as well but when it comes to

40:15 ↗ predicting the future the farther out

40:17 ↗ you go the harder it is to predict the

40:19 ↗ future and so we really try to make sure

40:21 ↗ that 2024 2025 2026 are pretty balanced

40:25 ↗ that we have revenues assigned to pay

40:28 ↗ for those that we have those pretty well

40:30 ↗ planned out

40:32 ↗ um so I in looking at those near-term

40:35 ↗ years within the six-year plan just

40:38 ↗ wanted to highlight for you what is in

40:40 ↗ store and what's in the plan for the

40:42 ↗ next couple of years and so this slide

40:45 ↗ is talking about all of those programs

40:47 ↗ that are more ongoing so most of these

40:51 ↗ are replacement or maintenance programs

40:53 ↗ as you can see from the name so park and

40:55 ↗ open space acquisition program that's an

40:57 ↗ ongoing program

41:00 ↗ um playground equipment Replacements

41:02 ↗ Park amenities life cycle Replacements

41:05 ↗ the creek Corridor

41:07 ↗ irrigation replacement and Trail repair

41:10 ↗ programs so a lot of these are

41:12 ↗ associated either with long-term ongoing

41:14 ↗ efforts such as acquisition or

41:17 ↗ maintenance and replacement and there

41:19 ↗ are more of those replacement programs

41:21 ↗ in this CIP for parks that were in the

41:24 ↗ past

41:26 ↗ uh then we have projects and so again

41:30 ↗ these are the near-term projects that

41:32 ↗ 2024 to 2026

41:35 ↗ um so projects would be many of them

41:36 ↗ funded by arpa that you're familiar with

41:38 ↗ you've been talking a lot about these

41:39 ↗ lately Confluence card Veterans Memorial

41:42 ↗ Field Depot and pedestrian Park the

41:45 ↗ hillside loop trail East Sunset

41:47 ↗ Trailhead the way finding uh program

41:50 ↗ implementation and Rainier Trail so

41:52 ↗ these um these are the projects within

41:55 ↗ that very near term

41:57 ↗ and just for the sake of time today I

41:59 ↗ didn't want to list all of all 20

42:01 ↗ projects in the in the CIP it is in your

42:03 ↗ packet so you can take a look at the

42:05 ↗ rest if you haven't already so here's

42:07 ↗ where we are we um met earlier in this

42:11 ↗ year to refine those criteria

42:13 ↗ um we're here now in that uh space on

42:16 ↗ the timeline that's emboldened in Black

42:18 ↗ we're looking for board feedback and how

42:20 ↗ you feel the CIP the drafts VIP meets

42:24 ↗ the criteria

42:25 ↗ um then uh we take that feedback and

42:29 ↗ provide it to the council committees

42:30 ↗ they'll be meeting later on in May

42:33 ↗ um to review sections of the CIP so the

42:36 ↗ parks

42:37 ↗ um the Safety Services and Parks

42:40 ↗ committee will be meeting

42:41 ↗ uh in May and so I'd love to take your

42:44 ↗ feedback from you here today and present

42:46 ↗ that feedback to them in that meeting

42:48 ↗ and the council will have a couple of

42:49 ↗ meetings to discuss what's in the CIP

42:52 ↗ first they're gonna those Council

42:53 ↗ committees are going to focus on their

42:55 ↗ specific infrastructure like I said

42:57 ↗ Safety Services and Parks we'll take a

42:58 ↗ look at parks

43:00 ↗ um and safety related infrastructure

43:03 ↗ um then we have you know mobility and

43:05 ↗ infrastructure for example we'll take a

43:06 ↗ look at Transportation infrastructure

43:09 ↗ Etc so I'd love to take your feedback

43:11 ↗ provide it to the city council

43:13 ↗ committees who will deliberate more and

43:15 ↗ discuss more then we have Cal which

43:18 ↗ stands for committee of the whole uh to

43:20 ↗ discuss the entire CIP together and try

43:23 ↗ to balance out the different uh

43:25 ↗ infrastructure categories like Parks

43:27 ↗ Transportation facilities Etc

43:30 ↗ let me look to council adoption by July

43:33 ↗ 1st so that's the next steps and where

43:36 ↗ we are are there any questions before we

43:39 ↗ get to the discussion section

43:44 ↗ yeah real quick

43:46 ↗ the process of evaluating all the items

43:50 ↗ has already been completed now it's

43:52 ↗ recommendation time

43:54 ↗ yes so the process for evaluating items

43:56 ↗ was completed by the administration

43:58 ↗ internally as we tried to

44:00 ↗ come

44:02 ↗ create the CIP and so we're looking for

44:05 ↗ feedback from you on did we do a good

44:07 ↗ job did we miss something glaring how

44:09 ↗ did that go

44:10 ↗ then I do have a question that kind of

44:12 ↗ relates back to the previous uh one of

44:14 ↗ the items that was discussed during that

44:16 ↗ multi-board meeting was

44:19 ↗ wow when people were looking at the red

44:21 ↗ green red yellow green approach and

44:24 ↗ based on experience

44:27 ↗ and then also maybe

44:29 ↗ newer

44:31 ↗ perspectives that need to be applied or

44:33 ↗ ought to be applied there was the

44:35 ↗ recommendation of maybe doing like a

44:37 ↗ negative two to a positive two so that

44:39 ↗ you could

44:41 ↗ um

44:42 ↗ project that could go forward that red

44:44 ↗ might seem seems like a zero right now

44:46 ↗ but something that like a transportation

44:49 ↗ project is important but it has

44:51 ↗ potentially negative environmental

44:53 ↗ impact and that that needs to be

44:55 ↗ considered

44:56 ↗ alternatively uh you know many Park

44:59 ↗ projects may not have a transportation

45:01 ↗ value or something like that and so

45:04 ↗ there was a desire for some of that so I

45:07 ↗ guess I'm wondering if you could provide

45:09 ↗ a little insight on how you applied the

45:11 ↗ red yellow green to projects that may

45:15 ↗ have an actual negative impact on a

45:17 ↗ different Criterion

45:20 ↗ yeah so I think we looked at the balance

45:23 ↗ of the criteria as a whole

45:25 ↗ so

45:27 ↗ so if you look in your packet there's an

45:29 ↗ attachment that talks about the sixth

45:31 ↗ year the projects that are within the

45:33 ↗ six-year CIP and it shows how each of

45:36 ↗ them ranked with the criteria red yellow

45:38 ↗ green so you'll see a red yellow and

45:40 ↗ green value for each of those criteria

45:42 ↗ and projects and so you can see where

45:47 ↗ the projects stand in terms of how many

45:49 ↗ have read how many have green Etc so we

45:51 ↗ looked at that to place them within that

45:54 ↗ six year time frame and

45:57 ↗ um they were assigned at the time uh

46:01 ↗ some numerical values of one two and

46:03 ↗ three and then we were able to use that

46:06 ↗ as a starting Place knowing that

46:09 ↗ um that was really the start of the

46:10 ↗ conversation right so if something

46:12 ↗ scored a certain number we wanted to

46:13 ↗ take a look at that and say okay what

46:16 ↗ does that mean though given how how much

46:19 ↗ we know uh

46:21 ↗ of you know staff time can we really get

46:24 ↗ this done what does that mean in

46:25 ↗ relation to on some of the task force

46:27 ↗ recommendations what does that mean

46:30 ↗ um in relation to this is a life safety

46:32 ↗ issue how urgent of a life safety issue

46:34 ↗ is it it could be a life safety issue

46:37 ↗ and uh in

46:40 ↗ 2026 but maybe not in 2025 right so we

46:44 ↗ kind of need to weigh all these things

46:45 ↗ and that's where sometimes the math

46:46 ↗ doesn't uh doesn't really help us so we

46:50 ↗ use it as a starting place but not uh as

46:52 ↗ a as an ending Place does that does that

46:54 ↗ help answer your question

46:56 ↗ yeah I think maybe it's something to

46:58 ↗ consider the next time around this time

47:01 ↗ okay

47:04 ↗ and I feel like asante's going to give

47:06 ↗ me the hook because I think I'm going

47:07 ↗ over

47:09 ↗ um but I don't want to shortchange any

47:11 ↗ questions or discussion

47:15 ↗ um I have a question Andrew yes so

47:18 ↗ looking at the plan today and the list

47:20 ↗ of projects it seems like we are

47:24 ↗ scoring the lowest blood climate

47:26 ↗ resiliency or environmental benefit so

47:30 ↗ for a city that distributed then it's

47:32 ↗ identity nature with a also adopting

47:36 ↗ that climate action plan in 2021 with a

47:39 ↗ plan that encompasses multiple years the

47:44 ↗ this the administration feel like it's

47:46 ↗ not sending a strong message wrong in

47:49 ↗ its climate initiatives with how it

47:52 ↗ reflects in the list of projects that

47:55 ↗ they presented

47:57 ↗ that's a wonderful wonderful question

47:59 ↗ and I think having the criteria

48:02 ↗ I think it helps us look at these

48:05 ↗ projects from that lens and see that is

48:08 ↗ surprising to me when I saw the results

48:11 ↗ of that and maybe Jen you want to talk a

48:12 ↗ little bit more about how you looked at

48:15 ↗ the criteria to score some of these

48:17 ↗ projects with the environment and then

48:19 ↗ we can talk about you know completely

48:20 ↗ answer your questions in that bigger

48:22 ↗ picture

48:23 ↗ and looking at the which projects really

48:26 ↗ in that climate resiliency

48:28 ↗ um and environmental benefit that's

48:30 ↗ scored negatively those two projects

48:32 ↗ were wayfindings and signage

48:34 ↗ implementation as well as the hillside

48:36 ↗ Loop work drill

48:38 ↗ um wayfinding that's mostly facility

48:42 ↗ signage directional signage there really

48:45 ↗ isn't a

48:46 ↗ an impact other than in the

48:48 ↗ manufacturing of it so not always is a

48:52 ↗ red deemed a negative it just may not

48:54 ↗ apply and so therefore it is a negative

48:59 ↗ um Hillside loop trail

49:02 ↗ um

49:04 ↗ there's already social Trails within

49:06 ↗ Hillside Park and formalizing some of

49:08 ↗ those or expanding them really isn't

49:10 ↗ doing a detriment to the environment nor

49:12 ↗ is it

49:13 ↗ um

49:14 ↗ enhancing it in all the same so there

49:17 ↗ really wasn't like a net zero on that

49:19 ↗ which is why it scored as a negative

49:22 ↗ because there wasn't any new benefit out

49:24 ↗ of it so it's not necessarily a bad

49:26 ↗ thing for something to have a negative

49:28 ↗ it just may not apply or it may just be

49:31 ↗ um a Nuance of that individual project

49:34 ↗ like you know furthering existing social

49:37 ↗ Trails widening a trail you may actually

49:40 ↗ end up adding some understory plantings

49:42 ↗ but as overall when you look at kind of

49:44 ↗ the big picture of that project

49:46 ↗ environmental impact isn't a real

49:49 ↗ large factor and I yes and I would add

49:53 ↗ on to that that because this community

49:55 ↗ really values uh protecting the

49:58 ↗ environment and enhancing the

50:00 ↗ environment where we can we have that

50:02 ↗ criteria threshold to get a green is

50:05 ↗ very high

50:06 ↗ um it means that the project

50:09 ↗ prevents or corrects detrimental impact

50:12 ↗ to vital habitat ecosystems naturally

50:14 ↗ Source or it prevents or corrects

50:17 ↗ contributions to climate change so

50:19 ↗ that's a really high bar whereas in

50:21 ↗ comparison the red and what what what

50:23 ↗ approachable score Red it means it has

50:25 ↗ no environmental impact not that it has

50:28 ↗ a detrimental impact right so something

50:30 ↗ scores red it's not because it's hurting

50:32 ↗ the environment it's just neutral so

50:35 ↗ that's a really high bar and so given

50:37 ↗ how high of a bar we've set I think that

50:41 ↗ um it's it's not uh very concerning that

50:45 ↗ many of the park projects scored a

50:47 ↗ yellow because to score a yellow is

50:48 ↗ pretty good I think

50:51 ↗ um and that it reduces a detrimental

50:54 ↗ impact or provides a benefit to vital

50:56 ↗ habitat ecosystem natural resource so it

50:59 ↗ has some positive effects so it has it

51:01 ↗ has some environmental benefit when it's

51:03 ↗ score of the yellow and that was most of

51:05 ↗ the park projects and I think that's a

51:07 ↗ pretty good story to tell we do have

51:09 ↗ projects that are in the city that

51:12 ↗ um are

51:13 ↗ needing an even higher bar and

51:15 ↗ prevention or correcting detrimental

51:17 ↗ impact

51:18 ↗ um it's just so yellow is a pretty good

51:20 ↗ score I think

51:22 ↗ yeah great

51:29 ↗ um any any so any other questions or we

51:33 ↗ can move on to the

51:35 ↗ um feedback portion discussion portion

51:38 ↗ for tonight

51:39 ↗ I also don't want to ignore our friends

51:41 ↗ who are joining us virtually making sure

51:42 ↗ there's no fans that I haven't seen okay

51:45 ↗ as far as if there are surprises for

51:48 ↗ what's in a six-year plan I was and

51:50 ↗ maybe this is not quite on this topic

51:51 ↗ but um the improvements to Harvey

51:54 ↗ management Park I wasn't sure what

51:58 ↗ yeah that's in a current

52:01 ↗ um

52:02 ↗ CIP the 23. so the funding's in this

52:06 ↗ year so it's not shown in the 24th so

52:09 ↗ it's still an active project it's just

52:11 ↗ not in this 24 to 29 period okay

52:15 ↗ and what are those improvements is that

52:18 ↗ like just connecting Trails connecting

52:21 ↗ Trails yeah through the park over to Big

52:24 ↗ Ridge tree Trail and then up to Harvey

52:26 ↗ Manning Park as well creating neutrals

52:29 ↗ and um

52:30 ↗ Crossing some of the

52:32 ↗ waterways in there when that is

52:34 ↗ completed is it going to bring Regional

52:37 ↗ traffic to park at that park for

52:40 ↗ hiking purposes yes and also up to

52:43 ↗ Harvard Medical Park as well as the yeah

52:45 ↗ that's what I mean like are people going

52:47 ↗ to drive to Harvey Manny Park as a

52:50 ↗ Trailhead no we're actually promoting

52:52 ↗ Tibbetts Valley Park a park and ride as

52:54 ↗ main access through their part of the

52:56 ↗ delay and getting that is

52:58 ↗ um in order to provide Trail connections

53:01 ↗ we need to be able to provide safe

53:03 ↗ pedestrian access along Newport and so

53:05 ↗ we've had some challenges in

53:07 ↗ um in further exploring what our options

53:09 ↗ are to to do that work okay I just went

53:12 ↗ down to this packaging yes

53:17 ↗ great so any any other any feedback

53:23 ↗ um on how we applied the criteria

53:26 ↗ um

53:27 ↗ any changes we should consider I heard

53:30 ↗ uh Chris kobach you mentioned again for

53:34 ↗ maybe we should consider changing how

53:35 ↗ we've graded them in terms of using a

53:37 ↗ more numerical system something

53:41 ↗ um that's a bit more nuanced

53:43 ↗ yeah I think you know just to add to it

53:45 ↗ based on experience going through some

53:47 ↗ of these red yellow green analyzes and

53:51 ↗ there's some things that are well it's a

53:53 ↗ zero kind of like the signed program

53:55 ↗ it's really does happen

53:58 ↗ it's inconsequential environmentally but

54:01 ↗ something else like a parking lot would

54:03 ↗ have a negative impact and might need

54:06 ↗ some other you know mitigation to offset

54:09 ↗ that or something so that's I think

54:11 ↗ where that idea was coming from to allow

54:14 ↗ for that kind of consideration

54:16 ↗ okay I think one other question I have

54:19 ↗ for um is or feedback is um

54:23 ↗ these criteria I'm not sure how well

54:26 ↗ they allow you to sort of prioritize our

54:29 ↗ project that's necessary to have another

54:31 ↗ project done or you know like in order

54:34 ↗ to sort of phase projects and so as an

54:37 ↗ example of that I'll like there are you

54:40 ↗ know we keep talking about doing a

54:41 ↗ master plan for Tibbetts Valley Park and

54:44 ↗ as well as doing some kind of Veterans

54:46 ↗ Memorial Field those those Parks have

54:48 ↗ six baseball fields on them and we know

54:51 ↗ that

54:52 ↗ um likely based on the master planning

54:54 ↗ stuff we started a couple years ago

54:56 ↗ before covid that um the number of

54:59 ↗ baseball fields that would probably

55:01 ↗ happen at Tibbetts will be strong

55:03 ↗ and the answer to that is probably

55:07 ↗ um fixing the the Little League fields

55:10 ↗ at Central Park which are not the proper

55:13 ↗ size nor do they drain so anyway in

55:16 ↗ order to sort of do that strategically

55:17 ↗ one would if you know if you're planning

55:20 ↗ yourself you would say okay well I'm

55:22 ↗ going to fix those Central Park ones

55:24 ↗ first so that you know as we deal with

55:27 ↗ the other Parks we can do that more so

55:28 ↗ anyway that's just an example of

55:30 ↗ something that I don't know how well

55:32 ↗ this existing criteria captures that and

55:36 ↗ it might be into something else that

55:37 ↗ should you know bump like you might want

55:39 ↗ to try to bump something if you'll

55:41 ↗ remember excuse me if I jump in here in

55:44 ↗ the park strategic plan uh we did do

55:46 ↗ kind of a project prioritization within

55:49 ↗ that there was a checklist and then

55:51 ↗ there was kind of a oh once you get into

55:53 ↗ that project an additional checklist so

55:55 ↗ I think that might address some of that

55:57 ↗ preliminary life which should come first

55:59 ↗ chicken or the egg kind of thing or some

56:02 ↗ of these projects but I don't is that

56:05 ↗ part of this what that did what that did

56:07 ↗ though is because these are near term to

56:11 ↗ Mid early midterm projects because we

56:14 ↗ checked off a lot of our early or early

56:16 ↗ term projects so we're starting to get

56:20 ↗ into the last of those and into our

56:21 ↗ midterms now well as we go into our new

56:24 ↗ park strategic Plan update should in

56:26 ↗ that engagement new projects arise we

56:29 ↗ run through that criteria again and

56:32 ↗ re-categorize the priorities of all of

56:34 ↗ the different projects within there and

56:36 ↗ so we may have new early term projects

56:39 ↗ new midterm projects and new long-term

56:41 ↗ projects and then that will update feed

56:44 ↗ the next update of the park CIT so we're

56:48 ↗ kind of in mid process right now

56:49 ↗ functioning from the existing Park

56:51 ↗ strategic plan but as we get ready to

56:54 ↗ roll into the next one we may see some

56:56 ↗ jostling in two years when we update

56:58 ↗ this again some of those projects

57:00 ↗ getting re-prioritized as to what's a

57:04 ↗ near-term project versus a midterm

57:06 ↗ project yeah I guess my my my point

57:09 ↗ being I don't think that obvious

57:10 ↗ criteria you know when we're like

57:12 ↗ braiding things red yellow or green that

57:15 ↗ that that were that we capture

57:18 ↗ you know capture that prioritization

57:21 ↗ that might need to happen that we all

57:23 ↗ kind of know that needs to happen yeah

57:24 ↗ but if we're trying to actually you know

57:27 ↗ like I think that would actually be

57:29 ↗ applied a little bit I think we can do

57:31 ↗ some work in the clarity of the

57:33 ↗ prioritization within the park strategic

57:35 ↗ plan because then when it goes from

57:37 ↗ let's say there's five near-term

57:39 ↗ projects which one is first out of the

57:42 ↗ gate

57:43 ↗ maybe due to funding availability or

57:47 ↗ timing of projects or other work that's

57:49 ↗ getting done in the neighborhood or you

57:51 ↗ know a lot of other different factors

57:52 ↗ could play into that permitting process

57:55 ↗ um so there may be some ways in the park

57:59 ↗ strategic plan we could further filter

58:02 ↗ and prioritize some of those projects

58:04 ↗ Because by the time it comes to this

58:06 ↗ it's more of a funding what we can

58:08 ↗ realistically do within each year

58:10 ↗ because where there are finite dollars

58:12 ↗ within each of these years that we try

58:14 ↗ and juggle what can get done and so

58:16 ↗ sometimes though it's a near term if

58:18 ↗ there just isn't a budget it might get

58:19 ↗ pushed out a year but I think I think I

58:22 ↗ think it's a really good point and I

58:24 ↗ want to make sure to capture this

58:25 ↗ feedback because I think it's something

58:27 ↗ that we can be thoughtful and consider

58:29 ↗ during the strategic planning process

58:31 ↗ but also incorporate in the criteria for

58:34 ↗ the CIP as well to think about it as for

58:37 ↗ systems planning and how things relate

58:40 ↗ to each other and that isn't illicitly

58:43 ↗ captured in our criteria you're

58:45 ↗ absolutely correct so when you look at

58:47 ↗ it it's just like you know all these

58:49 ↗ things are kind of like near-term

58:50 ↗ projects it's like well one of them

58:52 ↗ might be more important than another

58:54 ↗ four reasons that aren't necessarily

58:56 ↗ captured here so and yeah anyway thank

58:58 ↗ you it's it's a good point because

59:00 ↗ something that maybe doesn't score as

59:02 ↗ well in in uh I don't know Community

59:05 ↗ priority you know but it supports some

59:08 ↗ it's necessary or it should be necessary

59:10 ↗ for tab and that's that maybe scores

59:12 ↗ better you know we need to consider all

59:14 ↗ of that together so I I think um I'd

59:16 ↗ love to pass that feedback on to council

59:19 ↗ thanks thank you

59:21 ↗ great

59:23 ↗ any other feedback

59:30 ↗ okay

59:31 ↗ well thank you very much

59:34 ↗ um I appreciate this so what I would

59:36 ↗ like to do when your feedback I've taken

59:38 ↗ copious amounts of notes

59:40 ↗ um if it's okay with you I'd just like

59:42 ↗ to incorporate that into my memo to city

59:45 ↗ council that will include the feedback

59:47 ↗ we've gathered from all of the boards uh

59:51 ↗ about the CIP so that's one option is

59:55 ↗ that I can incorporate that into my

59:57 ↗ materials for Council if you as a board

1:00:00 ↗ felt more strongly you wanted to convey

1:00:01 ↗ the message yourself then another option

1:00:03 ↗ would be for you to draft a letter with

1:00:05 ↗ this feedback and you can send it to

1:00:06 ↗ council directly if that's your

1:00:08 ↗ preference so I look to the board for

1:00:10 ↗ guidance on how you want your feedback

1:00:12 ↗ to be communicated to city council

1:00:15 ↗ okay um just I guess a quick show of

1:00:19 ↗ hands

1:00:20 ↗ um is there interest in uh perhaps

1:00:23 ↗ drafting a a letter as a board

1:00:27 ↗ um to be sent to council

1:00:31 ↗ um

1:00:32 ↗ I mean we haven't really actually did we

1:00:34 ↗ say the draft cfp is actually coming out

1:00:36 ↗ in May 1st so to me it feels premature

1:00:40 ↗ to be given informal feedback at this

1:00:42 ↗ point in the form of a memo that we

1:00:45 ↗ would prepare you would I would think

1:00:47 ↗ you'd want to do that after it actually

1:00:48 ↗ comes out

1:00:51 ↗ I think with respect to you know

1:00:54 ↗ reflecting on the criteria and how

1:00:56 ↗ they're apply it I think as long as

1:00:58 ↗ you're taking the notes and we'll

1:01:00 ↗ deliver on the fact that would be

1:01:01 ↗ adequate for me okay

1:01:03 ↗ okay is everyone okay with uh sending

1:01:07 ↗ Andrea uh submit the feedback that she

1:01:10 ↗ received at the meeting today

1:01:12 ↗ um by a show of hands if that's okay

1:01:22 ↗ well thank you very much I appreciate

1:01:25 ↗ your time today and allowing

1:01:27 ↗ um us to present so thank you for that

1:01:29 ↗ thank you thank you

1:01:32 ↗ all right

1:01:34 ↗ um so

1:01:35 ↗ uh looking forward to their Community

1:01:37 ↗ investment strategy project update for

1:01:40 ↗ uh influence on the back house

1:01:47 ↗ when I want to um first invite

1:01:50 ↗ [Music]

1:01:51 ↗ um within team to internet cameras on uh

1:01:55 ↗ today we have with us uh Christian and

1:01:59 ↗ Amelia and Charlie from

1:02:03 ↗ um probably recognize these faces

1:02:05 ↗ they've been here a time or two

1:02:08 ↗ um to help us with

1:02:10 ↗ um

1:02:12 ↗ our presentation on the park board so

1:02:14 ↗ give me just one minute here for this

1:02:17 ↗ house while I do a quick screen share

1:02:24 ↗ I still couldn't get my webcam to work

1:02:26 ↗ so um apologies to everybody

1:02:29 ↗ that's quite all right

1:02:34 ↗ all right can everyone see this

1:02:37 ↗ presentation

1:02:41 ↗ okay great

1:02:43 ↗ uh so thank you we are here to provide

1:02:46 ↗ you an update

1:02:48 ↗ um on the community investment strategy

1:02:50 ↗ um Confluence Park eckhouse project

1:02:55 ↗ um

1:02:56 ↗ wow kind of taking a step back some of

1:02:58 ↗ our goals for this project were

1:03:02 ↗ um to restore the eckhouse and to better

1:03:05 ↗ connect it to the Confluence Park as a

1:03:07 ↗ public amenity

1:03:09 ↗ and we also want to as a whole winter

1:03:13 ↗ sign mentioned in a public comment we

1:03:15 ↗ want to recognize and celebrate the

1:03:16 ↗ history of the eckhouse and thank you

1:03:18 ↗ for bringing forward some uh wonderful

1:03:21 ↗ facts we look forward to including those

1:03:24 ↗ um and also include some possible

1:03:27 ↗ landmarking of the egg house

1:03:32 ↗ so with this I'm gonna pass it over to

1:03:35 ↗ Charlie Abel uh this is the architect on

1:03:39 ↗ the project to kind of walk through what

1:03:42 ↗ some of our scoping and our project

1:03:44 ↗ phasing was uh for this project as well

1:03:48 ↗ as some of the discovery

1:03:51 ↗ thank you so much

1:03:53 ↗ um and yeah quick disclaimer right off

1:03:55 ↗ the bat you know this is really focused

1:03:58 ↗ on scope and phasing it's not a design

1:04:00 ↗ presentation we're not putting you know

1:04:02 ↗ true proposed design proposals together

1:04:05 ↗ um I think there are like two key themes

1:04:08 ↗ here uh casting a wide net

1:04:11 ↗ um and also trying to think big we we

1:04:14 ↗ recognize it's easier to kind of roll

1:04:16 ↗ things back and scale things down but we

1:04:18 ↗ wanted to kind of start with a big

1:04:19 ↗ Vision up front uh and see where it felt

1:04:22 ↗ right so

1:04:24 ↗ um jumping right in one of the first

1:04:26 ↗ things that we did is really kind of

1:04:27 ↗ created a big long wish list of what are

1:04:31 ↗ all the different things that could go

1:04:32 ↗ into the various elements of this

1:04:35 ↗ project so we broke it up into the

1:04:36 ↗ eckhouse the Wash House Shelter and

1:04:39 ↗ Plaza potential future play area and

1:04:42 ↗ really tried to go through the

1:04:43 ↗ nitty-gritty of what might be involved

1:04:44 ↗ so everything from

1:04:46 ↗ utility upgrades to paint any exterior

1:04:49 ↗ we even tried to

1:04:51 ↗ um categorize things as minor options or

1:04:54 ↗ major options so for example on an

1:04:56 ↗ interior renovation you could simply

1:04:58 ↗ clean up the interior or you could go

1:05:00 ↗ all the way to demolishing all the

1:05:02 ↗ interior walls and leaving just the

1:05:05 ↗ shell of the building to kind of create

1:05:07 ↗ a big dramatic double height volume so

1:05:09 ↗ again trying to think big and casting a

1:05:11 ↗ wide net

1:05:13 ↗ next slide

1:05:15 ↗ so at the same time we were also trying

1:05:18 ↗ to think through some of the paths to

1:05:21 ↗ getting to any one of those specific

1:05:25 ↗ um items and specifically there are a

1:05:27 ↗ couple big triggers right away so

1:05:29 ↗ landmarking versus not landmarking the

1:05:32 ↗ process looks quite different depending

1:05:34 ↗ on which of those two strategies you

1:05:36 ↗ take some of the options might look

1:05:38 ↗ similar but the the path is very

1:05:40 ↗ different so for example in landmarking

1:05:44 ↗ um you could preserve the house and

1:05:46 ↗ create this new public amenity and

1:05:48 ↗ landmarking not only helps preserve uh

1:05:51 ↗ the history of of the space uh in a

1:05:54 ↗ really kind of official way but it also

1:05:56 ↗ potentially unlocks additional funding

1:05:58 ↗ uh alternatively no landmarking could

1:06:01 ↗ really uh provide a lot of flexibility

1:06:04 ↗ you could demolish the house and either

1:06:06 ↗ create a rep replica using modern

1:06:08 ↗ construction techniques or create

1:06:11 ↗ something entirely fresh and new

1:06:13 ↗ um but you potentially lose those

1:06:16 ↗ additional funding opportunities and you

1:06:19 ↗ potentially uh you know lose some of

1:06:22 ↗ that history if you go the the

1:06:24 ↗ demolition route so again casting a wide

1:06:26 ↗ net trying to understand all these

1:06:29 ↗ variations uh as we move forward next

1:06:32 ↗ slide

1:06:33 ↗ and so part of the reason for that wide

1:06:36 ↗ net is that the eckhouse does have some

1:06:39 ↗ issues as you can see in the upper left

1:06:41 ↗ the foundations are literally tree

1:06:44 ↗ stumps uh sitting on uh old concrete

1:06:48 ↗ pads

1:06:49 ↗ um it's stable as is that's not to say

1:06:52 ↗ this is somehow dangerous but if you do

1:06:54 ↗ go the route of uh trying to turn this

1:06:56 ↗ into a public amenity to be occupied by

1:07:00 ↗ um groups of people uh the foundations

1:07:02 ↗ need to be upgraded this is not safe for

1:07:05 ↗ assembly type usages as people have

1:07:08 ↗ noted there was also a fire at some

1:07:10 ↗ point and so the one of the porches was

1:07:12 ↗ destroyed as well as the fire spreading

1:07:15 ↗ and destroying some of the interior uh

1:07:17 ↗ flooring and at some point in The

1:07:20 ↗ house's history one of the exterior

1:07:22 ↗ porches was enclosed and the

1:07:25 ↗ preservation

1:07:26 ↗ Representatives made it clear that

1:07:28 ↗ returning this to its original kind of

1:07:31 ↗ exterior porch configuration is

1:07:33 ↗ something that they're very interested

1:07:35 ↗ in so all these kind of little different

1:07:36 ↗ components

1:07:38 ↗ um are have been factored into any of

1:07:41 ↗ the options next slide

1:07:45 ↗ so our a e team uh did an assessment of

1:07:50 ↗ the different uh elements so

1:07:52 ↗ specifically at a high level if again

1:07:54 ↗ you change the use

1:07:57 ↗ um in order to make a public amenity you

1:07:59 ↗ need to change the use from residential

1:08:00 ↗ to an assembly space uh the foundations

1:08:03 ↗ would therefore need to be upgraded and

1:08:05 ↗ the structure needs to be stabilized the

1:08:08 ↗ seismic system would likely need to be

1:08:10 ↗ upgraded there are some very nuanced

1:08:12 ↗ triggers here depending on how far we go

1:08:15 ↗ with any of these options but generally

1:08:18 ↗ speaking there are likely seismic

1:08:19 ↗ upgrades

1:08:21 ↗ um we have been exploring the

1:08:23 ↗ possibility of fully opening up that

1:08:26 ↗ interior space to maximize its

1:08:28 ↗ flexibility and maximize the amount of

1:08:30 ↗ area

1:08:32 ↗ um for the interior essentially creating

1:08:35 ↗ a large double height shell and then

1:08:37 ↗ retaining the historic elements

1:08:40 ↗ that do still exist with the renovation

1:08:43 ↗ next slide

1:08:45 ↗ um similarly the King County historic

1:08:47 ↗ preservation group uh provided us with

1:08:51 ↗ their feedback so uh tying that in

1:08:54 ↗ together they made it clear that the

1:08:56 ↗ exterior shell to them is what has the

1:08:58 ↗ historic value

1:09:00 ↗ um the interior has gone through a lot

1:09:02 ↗ of Renovations over time and most of

1:09:04 ↗ that historic character has been lost so

1:09:07 ↗ that's actually kind of good news for uh

1:09:10 ↗ allowing Issaquah to sort of do whatever

1:09:12 ↗ they want

1:09:13 ↗ um functionally with the interior of the

1:09:16 ↗ space similarly the porches in the front

1:09:18 ↗ entry have a lot of historic value the

1:09:21 ↗ windows while they've been replaced with

1:09:23 ↗ vinyl could be uh uh replaced again with

1:09:27 ↗ wood and there might be additional

1:09:28 ↗ funding available for that type of

1:09:30 ↗ change the back of the house I.E the

1:09:33 ↗ west side that faces the park is not a

1:09:36 ↗ historic priority

1:09:37 ↗ uh and so this would be the opportunity

1:09:39 ↗ to make connections to the park open it

1:09:42 ↗ up uh potentially uh situate a new

1:09:46 ↗ Pavilion adjacent to it because this is

1:09:49 ↗ a as you've seen a pretty blank facade

1:09:52 ↗ not a lot of historic character

1:09:54 ↗ um the improvements to that backspace

1:09:56 ↗ would need to maintain a minor

1:09:57 ↗ separation they they really like to make

1:10:00 ↗ it clear to the public what is new and

1:10:02 ↗ what is original and historic and then

1:10:05 ↗ they are open to engaging in a design

1:10:07 ↗ process and possible landmarking after

1:10:09 ↗ the restoration so there's potentially

1:10:11 ↗ some play in terms of how we sequence

1:10:13 ↗ things

1:10:15 ↗ uh so just kind of overall picture

1:10:17 ↗ starting on the right um you know that's

1:10:19 ↗ the the eckhouse proper and we're sort

1:10:21 ↗ of seeing that as one piece of scope uh

1:10:24 ↗ in the middle is the shelter plasoscope

1:10:26 ↗ so uh again these aren't design

1:10:29 ↗ presentations necessarily just trying to

1:10:31 ↗ capture the Scopes of the shelter

1:10:32 ↗ potentially the Wash House and the plaza

1:10:35 ↗ area and then at some point maybe in the

1:10:38 ↗ future uh play area but you can see

1:10:40 ↗ that's dashed in so that is not really a

1:10:42 ↗ part of this discussion uh for this

1:10:44 ↗ scoping

1:10:46 ↗ um so as as people have talked about you

1:10:49 ↗ know we're we're also throwing out some

1:10:50 ↗ basic ideas here for what this could be

1:10:54 ↗ um coming back to my disclaimer big wide

1:10:57 ↗ net here and trying to think big and

1:11:00 ↗ these are not design proposals these are

1:11:03 ↗ merely meant to say okay if we did

1:11:05 ↗ something how many people could you fit

1:11:07 ↗ in here and what might this look like

1:11:10 ↗ um all of these studies assume that kind

1:11:13 ↗ of big vision of what if we demolish the

1:11:15 ↗ second floor what if we remove all the

1:11:18 ↗ interior walls essentially just have a

1:11:20 ↗ big double height shell that allows us

1:11:22 ↗ for the most flexibility over time and

1:11:26 ↗ these studies also don't include any of

1:11:29 ↗ the other proposals you just saw of the

1:11:32 ↗ outdoor Pavilion they don't address code

1:11:34 ↗ they don't address accessibility that

1:11:37 ↗ all comes later these are really just to

1:11:39 ↗ give you a sense of scale and

1:11:41 ↗ possibilities so next slide

1:11:44 ↗ so we kind of have three main

1:11:46 ↗ um uh options lined up one could be a an

1:11:50 ↗ art or exhibition Gallery focused on

1:11:52 ↗ local artists

1:11:54 ↗ um and the community

1:11:55 ↗ excuse me

1:11:57 ↗ um and you can see how in plan that

1:11:59 ↗ might work where you could have the

1:12:00 ↗ trains and seating uh clustered in the

1:12:04 ↗ center with artwork around the perimeter

1:12:08 ↗ and it actually works quite well in

1:12:10 ↗ terms of the distances that you'd want

1:12:11 ↗ to have for optimal uh art viewing and

1:12:15 ↗ connections to some of those exterior

1:12:17 ↗ porches for kind of an indoor outdoor

1:12:19 ↗ feel next slide

1:12:22 ↗ you could also consider this for dining

1:12:25 ↗ or reception so think a retirement party

1:12:28 ↗ or a football fundraiser

1:12:31 ↗ um things of that nature or even a

1:12:33 ↗ wedding reception for example and so

1:12:36 ↗ this might lay out where you'd have

1:12:38 ↗ um there's no we're not proposing a

1:12:40 ↗ kitchen here this would just be uh

1:12:42 ↗ exterior food brought in from the

1:12:44 ↗ exterior catered food laid out on a

1:12:47 ↗ buffet to the left with all of your

1:12:49 ↗ seating to the right and this totals

1:12:52 ↗ roughly 40 to 50 seats

1:12:54 ↗ um and you'll find in the other option

1:12:56 ↗ too that's kind of The Sweet Spot in

1:12:58 ↗ terms of the the sort of capacity of

1:13:00 ↗ this space next slide

1:13:02 ↗ and then the last one we're proposing

1:13:05 ↗ here is Speaker music or ceremony venues

1:13:08 ↗ so this could be a local violin uh

1:13:11 ↗ player this could be a poetry reading

1:13:12 ↗ this could be an actual wedding ceremony

1:13:15 ↗ next slide and so this is showing more

1:13:18 ↗ of that uh lecture type format where

1:13:21 ↗ you'd have the speaker over on the right

1:13:23 ↗ you'd have presentation screens uh all

1:13:26 ↗ the seating Focus there again this is

1:13:28 ↗ right around 50 people so that number

1:13:30 ↗ seems to keep popping up in terms of

1:13:32 ↗ capacity you could have a bar to the

1:13:34 ↗ left a check-in desk and again we could

1:13:36 ↗ open up that left side facing the park

1:13:40 ↗ to create a connection to the play area

1:13:42 ↗ to the plaza to a potential outdoor

1:13:45 ↗ Pavilion to create a flow between inside

1:13:49 ↗ Space outside space

1:13:51 ↗ and those are the three options

1:14:00 ↗ so I know uh Jeff went and spoke with

1:14:03 ↗ the Issaquah History Museum last week

1:14:05 ↗ and

1:14:06 ↗ um as we've been working with the ad hoc

1:14:09 ↗ group as well and other others

1:14:13 ↗ we have a recommended approach of doing

1:14:16 ↗ this in two phases

1:14:18 ↗ um phase one as Charlie referenced would

1:14:21 ↗ first be done for us to focus the uh on

1:14:25 ↗ the plazas and the outdoor spaces

1:14:28 ↗ um this we could complete with the

1:14:30 ↗ existing arpa funds

1:14:33 ↗ um within the current budget and within

1:14:35 ↗ the required timelines of the arpa

1:14:37 ↗ funding I think that's something we

1:14:39 ↗ really need to keep in mind is that the

1:14:42 ↗ funding needs to be used by the end of

1:14:44 ↗ 24.

1:14:46 ↗ um and thanks to her house restoration

1:14:48 ↗ because of the historic nature of the

1:14:51 ↗ building

1:14:52 ↗ um if we continue down the landmarking

1:14:56 ↗ path make ensuring we can

1:15:00 ↗ um honor the history of the building it

1:15:02 ↗ is going to take a little more time to

1:15:04 ↗ develop the plans to do the landmarking

1:15:06 ↗ and to get everything in line in order

1:15:09 ↗ to not only fund but also construct that

1:15:14 ↗ building

1:15:15 ↗ so we're recommending that be a phase

1:15:18 ↗ two for future but we could also use

1:15:22 ↗ that time to seek some grant

1:15:24 ↗ opportunities if we were to proceed with

1:15:26 ↗ landmarking find some other grants to

1:15:30 ↗ help us with some of the systems as

1:15:31 ↗ Charlie mentioned retaining the porches

1:15:34 ↗ ensuring time period windows that are

1:15:38 ↗ wood clotted not vinyl are installed and

1:15:41 ↗ really making sure we can spend the time

1:15:43 ↗ on the details that to help honor the

1:15:45 ↗ history

1:15:47 ↗ and then once we complete the

1:15:49 ↗ restoration we'd be working with the

1:15:52 ↗ King County preservation during the

1:15:53 ↗ design process and then once the

1:15:55 ↗ restoration was complete we'd go through

1:15:57 ↗ the formal landmarking process

1:16:00 ↗ okay

1:16:01 ↗ so what that would look like is we'd

1:16:04 ↗ really concentrate on this outside area

1:16:06 ↗ here as phase one

1:16:09 ↗ and then the restoration as phase two

1:16:16 ↗ some preliminary costs um just a

1:16:19 ↗ reminder we have 800 000 allocated for

1:16:22 ↗ this project some early egg house

1:16:26 ↗ restoration costs are around a million

1:16:29 ↗ to 1.2 depending upon a few unknowns at

1:16:34 ↗ this time and when the work would get

1:16:37 ↗ done

1:16:39 ↗ um but we do have some great this is a

1:16:41 ↗ wonderful project to seek some grant

1:16:43 ↗ opportunities and funding sources for

1:16:46 ↗ um so I think uh what we would actually

1:16:49 ↗ pay would be much less than that um

1:16:52 ↗ because I think we'd be able to do some

1:16:54 ↗ uh fundraising and be a great candidate

1:16:57 ↗ for for Grants

1:17:01 ↗ so with that

1:17:03 ↗ um

1:17:03 ↗ we'd love to hear any discussion and

1:17:06 ↗ feedback from the board

1:17:09 ↗ an ad hoc if you want to add anything to

1:17:11 ↗ please feel free to chime in at this

1:17:13 ↗ time

1:17:15 ↗ yeah

1:17:16 ↗ uh I definitely support this this um

1:17:21 ↗ this proposal it

1:17:23 ↗ um especially in lieu of the concept of

1:17:25 ↗ tearing it down and doing a picnic

1:17:27 ↗ shelter

1:17:28 ↗ um this is much more in line with what

1:17:31 ↗ um the master plan had and that we

1:17:33 ↗ talked about when we adopted the master

1:17:35 ↗ plan

1:17:36 ↗ um back then we really talked about

1:17:39 ↗ having a house being available for

1:17:42 ↗ Community use so for classes or for kind

1:17:45 ↗ of like rental space meeting space

1:17:48 ↗ um and this seems to sort of to hit that

1:17:50 ↗ I would hope that you'd have and I also

1:17:53 ↗ really like Paul's suggestion of um uh

1:17:56 ↗ looking at the trail house as you know

1:17:59 ↗ so we used to have our parkour meetings

1:18:00 ↗ in the trail house and people haven't

1:18:02 ↗ been there it's a great place to to look

1:18:04 ↗ and see how you know how that you could

1:18:07 ↗ just open up a space and have it be a

1:18:10 ↗ little bit more modern inside I really

1:18:11 ↗ hope that we'd have a bathroom in there

1:18:14 ↗ um I don't know if that was yeah we've

1:18:15 ↗ kind of talked about the Wash House even

1:18:17 ↗ with the historic Center that if we

1:18:19 ↗ could make that an outdoor restroom that

1:18:23 ↗ would serve the building it would be

1:18:24 ↗ outside but thinking that the Wash House

1:18:26 ↗ could be converted yes yeah it just

1:18:28 ↗ seems like you need something yeah

1:18:30 ↗ especially for the playground or that

1:18:31 ↗ but yeah

1:18:33 ↗ great point so I'm much happier about

1:18:36 ↗ this than the original kind of proposals

1:18:39 ↗ that came out a few months ago

1:18:42 ↗ I'm Brad

1:18:45 ↗ uh thanks actually I kind of support

1:18:48 ↗ what Danielle just had to say but I'll

1:18:49 ↗ just kind of add on to that

1:18:51 ↗ um

1:18:52 ↗ you know one thing it's a little hard

1:18:55 ↗ for me to understand how it's going to

1:18:56 ↗ take a million dollars to restore this

1:18:58 ↗ house you know all of us that have homes

1:19:01 ↗ that we insure for total losses

1:19:04 ↗ you know look in the neighborhood of 250

1:19:08 ↗ 300 a square foot you know that house

1:19:10 ↗ isn't probably any larger than a

1:19:12 ↗ thousand square feet which makes it like

1:19:14 ↗ a thousand dollars a square foot for

1:19:16 ↗ restoration so it's hard for me to

1:19:19 ↗ to understand the numbers for that

1:19:21 ↗ um

1:19:22 ↗ but that being said I know there's a lot

1:19:24 ↗ more that has to go into it because of

1:19:26 ↗ it being

1:19:27 ↗ um you know a commercial property to

1:19:29 ↗ some extent

1:19:30 ↗ you know I do have some issues with the

1:19:33 ↗ playground concept

1:19:35 ↗ um as something that Connie pointed out

1:19:37 ↗ and I actually had an opportunity to

1:19:39 ↗ take a Light review of the master plan

1:19:43 ↗ um it does show that that Confluence

1:19:46 ↗ Park is designed for uh passive

1:19:49 ↗ Recreation and it's questionable whether

1:19:51 ↗ or not a you know a an increased

1:19:54 ↗ playground would be considered a passive

1:19:57 ↗ playground or or passive Recreation I

1:20:00 ↗ would think that's to be more active

1:20:02 ↗ Recreation so I think we need to be very

1:20:04 ↗ careful about what's done in that regard

1:20:07 ↗ um you know I guess my last point is you

1:20:09 ↗ know we talk a lot about history

1:20:11 ↗ and um

1:20:14 ↗ you know when I look through the master

1:20:16 ↗ plan there's an awful lot of historical

1:20:18 ↗ information in there

1:20:19 ↗ uh and yet I find that we have a huge

1:20:23 ↗ missed opportunity for presenting

1:20:26 ↗ historical information to the community

1:20:28 ↗ you know when I look at the Anderson

1:20:30 ↗ Farmhouse and what was done there

1:20:33 ↗ um you know I like what was done there

1:20:35 ↗ but when you know for a person to go

1:20:37 ↗ there would have no clue uh regarding

1:20:40 ↗ the history of that area and so I you

1:20:43 ↗ know I would really like to see us add

1:20:46 ↗ in to some of these proposals some uh

1:20:49 ↗ historical interpretive elements to both

1:20:53 ↗ um Anderson and Eck uh so that that

1:20:56 ↗ history can be preserved and

1:20:58 ↗ communicated to the community

1:21:01 ↗ and right now none of that is done and

1:21:05 ↗ and I don't really see any of that in

1:21:06 ↗ any of these proposals that that's that

1:21:08 ↗ that is an element to consider so that's

1:21:11 ↗ just one more thing that I'd like to put

1:21:13 ↗ out there but overall I do like the um

1:21:16 ↗ preservation on this new phase issue I'm

1:21:21 ↗ a little off on the cost but I do think

1:21:23 ↗ the phase one phase two makes some sense

1:21:25 ↗ I do have some concerns like Corey said

1:21:28 ↗ to have a 800 000

1:21:31 ↗ um uh you know our area you know next to

1:21:34 ↗ a house that is dilapidated and who

1:21:38 ↗ knows when we're ever going to have the

1:21:39 ↗ funding uh to fix that

1:21:41 ↗ um so I to me it would be nice if we

1:21:45 ↗ could actually restore the house uh as a

1:21:48 ↗ part of the of the arpa money

1:21:51 ↗ um and um but I realize that that's

1:21:54 ↗ challenging in terms of of timing

1:21:57 ↗ um

1:21:58 ↗ those are my comments thank you

1:22:01 ↗ Brad I just want to quickly address your

1:22:04 ↗ concerns regarding

1:22:06 ↗ um interpretive elements and historic

1:22:09 ↗ when we met with King County uh historic

1:22:12 ↗ preservation that was one of the big

1:22:14 ↗ topics we had with them and I'm sorry if

1:22:17 ↗ that wasn't translated today because

1:22:19 ↗ we're really talking about

1:22:22 ↗ different uses of space and different

1:22:24 ↗ projects but that how we include history

1:22:28 ↗ as part of the landmarking process and

1:22:31 ↗ the restoration process was huge they

1:22:34 ↗ really want us to emphasize the um

1:22:38 ↗ farming history of this space and also

1:22:43 ↗ the important features of the building

1:22:45 ↗ as well as other history with it so

1:22:48 ↗ definitely as we get into further

1:22:51 ↗ designing the EC house and further

1:22:54 ↗ designing the patio space digging into

1:22:56 ↗ that history is definitely going to be

1:22:58 ↗ part of the storytelling of this entire

1:23:01 ↗ space and restoration

1:23:03 ↗ thanks for that Clarity Jen maybe we can

1:23:06 ↗ take some of that further uh before the

1:23:08 ↗ Anderson Farmhouse as well

1:23:16 ↗ I want to respond to the um Brad to the

1:23:19 ↗ comment about the um the passive use

1:23:22 ↗ versus active at the at the park and my

1:23:25 ↗ recollection is that the majority of

1:23:28 ↗ that space that it has been developed a

1:23:30 ↗ conference was acquired with monies that

1:23:33 ↗ required it to be passive

1:23:36 ↗ um because it was Creekside purchases

1:23:37 ↗ and whatnot but then that corner of the

1:23:40 ↗ park

1:23:41 ↗ um and the way that we acquired the

1:23:43 ↗ eckhouse and that property was with

1:23:46 ↗ different money and so that actually did

1:23:48 ↗ not have the same sort of restrictions

1:23:51 ↗ um and could be active and then I want

1:23:53 ↗ to remind everyone that

1:23:55 ↗ the most exciting phase from my

1:23:57 ↗ perspective has not is like still you

1:24:00 ↗ know when I was so far in the future but

1:24:01 ↗ it's actually the active part of the

1:24:03 ↗ park which was in the master plan is

1:24:05 ↗ where the

1:24:07 ↗ um the city is like shops and stuff is

1:24:09 ↗ and it will require that to be relocated

1:24:11 ↗ but that land then can all be active use

1:24:13 ↗ and like the drawings and stuff um for

1:24:16 ↗ the MasterPark that we did were really

1:24:18 ↗ exciting

1:24:19 ↗ um for for that part of the property so

1:24:22 ↗ there is supposed to be an active

1:24:24 ↗ component of that Park

1:24:26 ↗ it's just not the part that we've

1:24:28 ↗ developed yet

1:24:29 ↗ thanks for sharing that Danielle I know

1:24:31 ↗ you're the only one that uh around uh

1:24:34 ↗ you were the only one around back in the

1:24:36 ↗ days when that Master Plan was created

1:24:38 ↗ so I know you have some insight

1:24:44 ↗ yes and thank you for bringing up uh

1:24:46 ↗ that piece that corner you're correct is

1:24:49 ↗ the one piece of the park that is

1:24:52 ↗ allowed to be developed more so than

1:24:54 ↗ others faces within the park so thank

1:24:56 ↗ you very much it's a funding issue like

1:24:58 ↗ the way that we that we either you know

1:25:00 ↗ got mats and grants or purchased a

1:25:02 ↗ property or karate given to us you know

1:25:05 ↗ whatever all the rest of the pieces yeah

1:25:07 ↗ along their have restrictions yep so

1:25:10 ↗ this one does allow for the additional

1:25:12 ↗ uses that are being proposed

1:25:17 ↗ foreign

1:25:20 ↗ [Music]

1:25:24 ↗ okay great just as a follow-up I'll be

1:25:28 ↗ um updating the issua history museum

1:25:31 ↗ board in full uh this Thursday as well

1:25:33 ↗ and we'll take our discussion forward

1:25:36 ↗ with them as well so

1:25:40 ↗ all right any more on this topic grab

1:25:43 ↗ your hands still up did you know another

1:25:44 ↗ comment

1:25:48 ↗ um

1:25:50 ↗ how's that okay

1:25:53 ↗ all right then bear with me really quick

1:25:57 ↗ and I will

1:25:59 ↗ um this is difficult sharing when you uh

1:26:01 ↗ are on your own uh

1:26:05 ↗ computer so bear with me

1:26:09 ↗ um

1:26:15 ↗ right now we're moving on to

1:26:19 ↗ um

1:26:23 ↗ the next Arbor project which is

1:26:26 ↗ community investment strategy

1:26:30 ↗ this is

1:26:40 ↗ for The Pedestrian Park and Senior

1:26:43 ↗ Center plazas and again we've got our

1:26:46 ↗ wonderful methune team joining us here

1:26:50 ↗ um us back up

1:26:52 ↗ uh just kind of it's been a little bit

1:26:55 ↗ since we've talked about this project

1:26:56 ↗ and just wanted to do a quick recap from

1:26:59 ↗ our meeting in February

1:27:01 ↗ um as you may recall we

1:27:03 ↗ I spent a lot of time with the ad hoc

1:27:06 ↗ and

1:27:08 ↗ um we had gone over a summary of four

1:27:11 ↗ different framework options that then

1:27:13 ↗ were reduced into two concepts for

1:27:16 ↗ consideration

1:27:18 ↗ um that that were was the Creekside

1:27:20 ↗ table as well as Valley Trail

1:27:23 ↗ um we took that design out

1:27:26 ↗ um brought it to you prior to doing our

1:27:29 ↗ public engagement

1:27:31 ↗ and the um this was the Valley Trail

1:27:35 ↗ concept you can see here

1:27:38 ↗ and then the Creekside table

1:27:42 ↗ you should look familiar

1:27:46 ↗ um since that time

1:27:47 ↗ um we did our public survey and open

1:27:49 ↗ house in March we received over 500

1:27:52 ↗ comments back uh those comments were

1:27:55 ↗ included in your packet tonight if you

1:27:57 ↗ want to get into the nitty-gritty of the

1:28:00 ↗ comments

1:28:01 ↗ um

1:28:02 ↗ but we have been busy since February

1:28:06 ↗ also engaging with neighboring

1:28:07 ↗ businesses issquad History Museum on

1:28:10 ↗ this project as well the Creative Arts

1:28:12 ↗ District board downtown escrow

1:28:14 ↗ Association visit Issaquah also Senior

1:28:17 ↗ Center patrons at various different

1:28:20 ↗ groups that gather there so it's been

1:28:22 ↗ really quite exciting to get their

1:28:25 ↗ feedback

1:28:26 ↗ on this project so we did the online

1:28:29 ↗ survey and we worked with the ad hoc

1:28:32 ↗ committee to review some of those

1:28:34 ↗ comments that came through and also

1:28:37 ↗ um ad hoc helped guide us into what

1:28:39 ↗ we're going to be reviewing tonight

1:28:41 ↗ which is

1:28:42 ↗ um design direction for preferred

1:28:44 ↗ concept

1:28:47 ↗ and with that I will pass it over to

1:28:50 ↗ mathem team I think Christian's going to

1:28:52 ↗ take lead and start us off here

1:28:56 ↗ thanks Jennifer can everybody hear me

1:29:00 ↗ great

1:29:01 ↗ okay so

1:29:03 ↗ um Jennifer said my name is Christian

1:29:05 ↗ Runge I'm a landscape architect at

1:29:07 ↗ methune and part of the team with Amelia

1:29:09 ↗ Jensen here on the design team and

1:29:11 ↗ you've also met Deb Gunther

1:29:13 ↗ a bunch of times as well over time as

1:29:15 ↗ well as in the last meeting where we

1:29:17 ↗ presented those two options so we're

1:29:20 ↗ really excited to kind of give you an

1:29:21 ↗ update on what we've been up to and

1:29:23 ↗ thinking through the community feedback

1:29:25 ↗ and sort of the next steps for the

1:29:27 ↗ design in general I just wanted to say

1:29:30 ↗ thanks to the ad hoc committee for

1:29:32 ↗ really being a great sounding board to

1:29:33 ↗ really giving us really um

1:29:35 ↗ nuanced and helpful and thoughtful

1:29:37 ↗ feedback along the way and of course we

1:29:39 ↗ saw a lot of your faces in general at

1:29:41 ↗ the um at the open house and along the

1:29:43 ↗ way providing great feedback so we

1:29:45 ↗ really appreciate that and take it to

1:29:46 ↗ heart

1:29:47 ↗ and really

1:29:48 ↗ um

1:29:49 ↗ really respect the opportunity that we

1:29:52 ↗ have here to kind of work on a

1:29:53 ↗ significant space like this in Issaquah

1:29:55 ↗ so we are really excited to share our

1:29:57 ↗ thinking about it so far so we can go to

1:29:58 ↗ the next slide

1:30:00 ↗ we've uh

1:30:02 ↗ um so this is a just high level summary

1:30:04 ↗ of some of the feedback we heard from

1:30:06 ↗ the community I think most of you saw

1:30:08 ↗ some of the online survey

1:30:10 ↗ um comments and poll results we had

1:30:13 ↗ almost 500 respondents which is amazing

1:30:15 ↗ and some of the themes that we took away

1:30:18 ↗ from that are first around the water

1:30:20 ↗ feature there's a really strong interest

1:30:22 ↗ in the idea of a water feature that's

1:30:24 ↗ more tactile of the style of the

1:30:26 ↗ Creekside table it's something you can

1:30:28 ↗ walk up to and touch children might want

1:30:30 ↗ to interact with it has a feel and Mass

1:30:32 ↗ to it but it's also at the right scale

1:30:34 ↗ that it's not that's not overdone it's

1:30:36 ↗ not too large that it presents

1:30:38 ↗ um a kind of subtle use of water

1:30:41 ↗ there was a lot of excitement for some

1:30:44 ↗ of the Casual social opportunities that

1:30:46 ↗ the Creekside table presented as well

1:30:49 ↗ um that raised lawn space some of the

1:30:52 ↗ other flexible areas that provide spaces

1:30:54 ↗ for small groups to gather teams to

1:30:56 ↗ gathers families to hang out in a more

1:30:58 ↗ casual setting

1:30:59 ↗ there was a lot of excitement around

1:31:01 ↗ both Concepts providing flexibility and

1:31:04 ↗ openness and that's really a desired

1:31:06 ↗ feature in all these spaces we've heard

1:31:08 ↗ points here tonight as well as from the

1:31:11 ↗ athletic committee about scale about

1:31:13 ↗ making sure that there's that openness

1:31:14 ↗ and flexibility we don't fill the space

1:31:16 ↗ up with too many things and go back to

1:31:18 ↗ sort of the where we are now with uh

1:31:21 ↗ that space so we really take that to

1:31:23 ↗ heart and are continuing to study that

1:31:27 ↗ um we're looking for a stronger and more

1:31:30 ↗ visible environmental approach both to

1:31:32 ↗ use of water but also to plants to

1:31:35 ↗ landscape to how we think about a

1:31:38 ↗ downtown escrow type environment

1:31:42 ↗ um a desire for on authenticity a

1:31:44 ↗ relationship to Old Town to the history

1:31:46 ↗ as well as the present and future of

1:31:48 ↗ issaquaza town that it's something

1:31:51 ↗ that's engaging 365 days a year and at

1:31:54 ↗ all times of the day including the

1:31:55 ↗ evenings

1:31:57 ↗ um and that it presents itself both the

1:31:59 ↗ water feature the plants the lighting

1:32:00 ↗ are kind of have a multi-season type

1:32:02 ↗ function to them

1:32:04 ↗ and also within the with the shelter

1:32:07 ↗ itself

1:32:08 ↗ um uh like the water water feature in

1:32:10 ↗ Plaza designs a lot of strong interest

1:32:12 ↗ in both Concepts almost overwhelming

1:32:14 ↗ support for either one or the other but

1:32:16 ↗ a little bit of a lean towards the

1:32:18 ↗ Creekside table shelter which is the

1:32:20 ↗ more simple option and we think though

1:32:22 ↗ you can interpret that in a lot of

1:32:24 ↗ different ways we think one of the

1:32:25 ↗ reasons is that simple and more Timeless

1:32:27 ↗ design works well in a lot of contexts

1:32:29 ↗ the senior center is an 80s building the

1:32:31 ↗ depot is a historic building the city

1:32:33 ↗ halls and other architecture and we want

1:32:35 ↗ a park architecture that really can work

1:32:37 ↗ with a lot of different styles say if we

1:32:39 ↗ this Pavilion is replicated in other

1:32:41 ↗ parts of Veterans Memorial Field in the

1:32:43 ↗ future as it's as it unfolds as a space

1:32:46 ↗ including Depot Plaza as well so we can

1:32:48 ↗ go to the next slide

1:32:52 ↗ so we are what we've decided to do is

1:32:56 ↗ we've decided to take uh this Creekside

1:32:58 ↗ table concept as a starting point for

1:33:00 ↗ this next evolution of design think

1:33:02 ↗ about the sort of the pros and cons of

1:33:04 ↗ the Valley Trail and start to develop

1:33:06 ↗ something

1:33:07 ↗ um from there so what we're going to

1:33:09 ↗ show you tonight is an evolution of the

1:33:11 ↗ Creekside table and I wanted to start by

1:33:13 ↗ just thinking a little bit about the

1:33:15 ↗ meaning of what this concept is it's

1:33:17 ↗ this story of Creekside which really to

1:33:20 ↗ us means the idea of Nature and the

1:33:22 ↗ strong passion around environment and

1:33:24 ↗ nature in the City of Issaquah as well

1:33:26 ↗ as well as the table which is really to

1:33:28 ↗ us about community and about town that

1:33:31 ↗ being in that town life that down that

1:33:33 ↗ downtown Issaquah life so next slide

1:33:36 ↗ so we wanted to explore these two ideas

1:33:38 ↗ further and situate them in uh in

1:33:41 ↗ something that we feel is hopefully more

1:33:43 ↗ authentic to the town and so from the

1:33:47 ↗ perspective of nature we're thinking

1:33:48 ↗ about what does it mean to be in the

1:33:50 ↗ valley this is downtown is in the valley

1:33:52 ↗ it's in more of a flat terrain it's not

1:33:54 ↗ the Foothills it's not Snoqualmie Pass

1:33:56 ↗ and it's not right on Puget Sound so we

1:33:58 ↗ it's a very unique environment and

1:34:01 ↗ waterways like Issaquah Creek itself the

1:34:04 ↗ geology and nature and plants all have a

1:34:06 ↗ special character in this Valley setting

1:34:09 ↗ so we explored that and then with

1:34:10 ↗ Community uh and history in in the town

1:34:14 ↗ we thought about this idea of Crossroads

1:34:17 ↗ both because this site is a railroad

1:34:19 ↗ um a site where the railroad used to run

1:34:22 ↗ off from the depot building but also

1:34:24 ↗ that Issaquah from its history

1:34:26 ↗ pre-settlement pre-european settlement

1:34:29 ↗ into indigenous history and to now has

1:34:30 ↗ always had sort of a sense of Crossroads

1:34:33 ↗ something Don Fell's artist brought up

1:34:35 ↗ in some of his assessment of art

1:34:37 ↗ planning opportunities in the town that

1:34:39 ↗ this is really something that transcends

1:34:41 ↗ all the histories of Issaquah that this

1:34:43 ↗ Crossroads environment it's both in the

1:34:45 ↗ past but also has a foot in contemporary

1:34:47 ↗ life and future that makes the town so

1:34:49 ↗ vibrant so we really wanted to explore

1:34:51 ↗ what that meant for this space as well

1:34:56 ↗ so when we talk about nature in the

1:34:58 ↗ valley we thought about a couple things

1:34:59 ↗ the Valley Stream

1:35:01 ↗ um streams like Issaquah when they get

1:35:03 ↗ into the flats they Meander and that's

1:35:05 ↗ exactly you would see in a space like

1:35:07 ↗ this the geology is actually a much more

1:35:09 ↗ fine-grained and much much more textured

1:35:12 ↗ um we know we presented options

1:35:14 ↗ previously that may have had say large

1:35:16 ↗ Boulders or other elements with maybe of

1:35:19 ↗ the mountains but the valley is more

1:35:20 ↗ about the gravels the cobbles of the

1:35:22 ↗ gravel bars of the creek the more

1:35:24 ↗ fine-grained textures that you would

1:35:26 ↗ find in the valley floors of this region

1:35:28 ↗ and then with nature and planting it's

1:35:30 ↗ also it's a little more Lush it's a

1:35:32 ↗ little more fine texture The Meadows and

1:35:34 ↗ riparian areas of the creek spaces that

1:35:36 ↗ are in contrast to the high high

1:35:38 ↗ Foothills around town so that's

1:35:41 ↗ something of what we were exploring with

1:35:42 ↗ nature and then next slide

1:35:45 ↗ um this image

1:35:47 ↗ is a sketch superimposed over a historic

1:35:49 ↗ aerial the town just kind of

1:35:51 ↗ highlighting then the crossroads nature

1:35:53 ↗ of town this intersection of roadways of

1:35:56 ↗ um this historic passage over Snoqualmie

1:35:58 ↗ Pass this first landing spot when you

1:36:00 ↗ come down from the past and then on your

1:36:02 ↗ way over to the waterways of the Puget

1:36:04 ↗ Sound there's a really significant

1:36:05 ↗ Crossroads we want to continue to

1:36:06 ↗ explore this next slide

1:36:10 ↗ just getting into a little bit more

1:36:11 ↗ detail about the form that we're

1:36:13 ↗ exploring so the Valley Stream the

1:36:16 ↗ Meander the pools the riffles these are

1:36:19 ↗ some of the inspiration points that we

1:36:21 ↗ were starting to

1:36:22 ↗ play off of the Gravel Bar as you would

1:36:25 ↗ find in in the flat Meandering pathway

1:36:27 ↗ Pathways of Issaquah Creek which you see

1:36:30 ↗ on the left-hand side and that lidar

1:36:31 ↗ image through downtown

1:36:33 ↗ and then we started to look think about

1:36:35 ↗ how water would Express itself in a

1:36:38 ↗ similar way the sort of Meandering forms

1:36:40 ↗ the sort of undulations around

1:36:42 ↗ um textured Cobble or sand bars that you

1:36:45 ↗ start to see here on these water feature

1:36:47 ↗ examples on the right hand side

1:36:49 ↗ on the next slide we also

1:36:52 ↗ um

1:36:53 ↗ thought a little bit more again about

1:36:54 ↗ the geology the idea of these gravel

1:36:56 ↗ bars the Cobble elements and how this

1:36:58 ↗ finer grain texture could take shape in

1:37:00 ↗ a water feature you can see examples of

1:37:01 ↗ how it can just be a very simple

1:37:03 ↗ beautiful reflecting pool to where you

1:37:05 ↗ see that reflection of the Cobble of the

1:37:07 ↗ Cobble of the valley or in slightly

1:37:10 ↗ um raised surfaces that can provide a

1:37:13 ↗ little texture to a flowing water run

1:37:14 ↗ all across a flat grades you kind of see

1:37:17 ↗ these expressions of Cobble and water

1:37:20 ↗ features as well and then next slide

1:37:24 ↗ we also are exploring plants and what it

1:37:26 ↗ means to be in a plant in a in a sort of

1:37:30 ↗ natural environment in the valley and we

1:37:32 ↗ were thinking a lot about these ideas of

1:37:34 ↗ of

1:37:35 ↗ um

1:37:36 ↗ sort of boardwalks and

1:37:39 ↗ walking paths and and foot bridges that

1:37:41 ↗ may Traverse lowland environments around

1:37:43 ↗ the valley and really thinking about

1:37:45 ↗ whether how that might Inspire planting

1:37:47 ↗ design in this Valley decreasing it

1:37:49 ↗ feels really natural but also fits

1:37:51 ↗ within an um Urban context

1:37:54 ↗ and also provides sort of open sight

1:37:56 ↗ lines and then with the community and

1:37:58 ↗ Crossroads we're looking at both the a

1:38:00 ↗ lot of the historic fabric of town

1:38:01 ↗ downtown the we've heard comments about

1:38:04 ↗ the fish ladders that sort of

1:38:05 ↗ infrastructure part of the city we know

1:38:07 ↗ about all about the railroad and the

1:38:09 ↗ sort of passages and the trestles that

1:38:11 ↗ ran through the valley as well and we

1:38:13 ↗ started to think about how that might

1:38:14 ↗ inform materials Furnishings different

1:38:17 ↗ elements that might express some of that

1:38:18 ↗ history in a in a way that feels

1:38:21 ↗ situated and is also usable in the

1:38:22 ↗ present as seating as places for social

1:38:24 ↗ Gathering and really is a way that we

1:38:26 ↗ can use these elements in a way that can

1:38:28 ↗ promote Community it can promote

1:38:30 ↗ socialization you get to get this with

1:38:33 ↗ benches that provide opportunities for

1:38:35 ↗ people to sit and talk to each other

1:38:36 ↗ versus sit alone and look at their phone

1:38:38 ↗ or families to hang out and kind of

1:38:40 ↗ group in different ways so that kind of

1:38:42 ↗ flexibility was something we also wanted

1:38:43 ↗ to explore

1:38:45 ↗ next slide

1:38:47 ↗ so just as a overall idea what we were

1:38:51 ↗ trying to do with this updated and

1:38:52 ↗ design direction is really start to play

1:38:55 ↗ off these ideas of the Valley nature and

1:38:57 ↗ the town and blend them together through

1:38:59 ↗ this water feature element and the

1:39:01 ↗ Gravel Bar which is again this raised

1:39:03 ↗ lawn element that you saw in the

1:39:05 ↗ previous concept so I'll just go to the

1:39:07 ↗ next slide because there's a lot more on

1:39:09 ↗ that one

1:39:10 ↗ so

1:39:11 ↗ what you're seeing here is we've um we

1:39:14 ↗ have

1:39:15 ↗ went kind of all in on this idea of a

1:39:18 ↗ more Meandering curvilinear type water

1:39:20 ↗ feature as well as landscape plantings

1:39:22 ↗ and I think what what this really means

1:39:25 ↗ to us is that

1:39:27 ↗ it's this pedestrian Park is becoming a

1:39:31 ↗ park it's bringing the park of Veterans

1:39:33 ↗ Memorial Field it's bringing it out to

1:39:35 ↗ downtown Issaquah it's bringing it right

1:39:37 ↗ out to the front door of the park and

1:39:38 ↗ it's creating almost like a park-like

1:39:40 ↗ environment within the plaza so it has

1:39:42 ↗ those Plaza functions but it's also the

1:39:44 ↗ gateway to the park

1:39:46 ↗ so um what we're thinking here is that

1:39:48 ↗ the Middle Island essentially is that

1:39:51 ↗ raised lawn it provides that opportunity

1:39:53 ↗ for sociable picnicking and seating for

1:39:55 ↗ small groups it still has an edge that's

1:39:57 ↗ a water feeder feature but it's a much

1:39:59 ↗ more Meandering water feature and you

1:40:01 ↗ can see one idea we have here is that

1:40:03 ↗ the water feature itself is a Meandering

1:40:07 ↗ um

1:40:08 ↗ form but also maybe the paving pattern

1:40:10 ↗ that you see here in Gray is also a

1:40:12 ↗ Meandering form it might be a hexagonal

1:40:14 ↗ paver or something that creates more of

1:40:16 ↗ a fractal or natural kind of pixelated

1:40:18 ↗ look to the paving that feels a little

1:40:21 ↗ more natural and less rigid

1:40:24 ↗ and the edges on both sides would have

1:40:27 ↗ Planters potentially rain Garden

1:40:28 ↗ Planters to train storm water that's

1:40:30 ↗ flowing off off The Hardscape areas

1:40:33 ↗ and also provide opportunities on the

1:40:35 ↗ left side for more intimate and kind of

1:40:37 ↗ immersive experience to a narrower

1:40:39 ↗ pathway through more of a natural

1:40:41 ↗ environment and on the right side a more

1:40:43 ↗ open pathway that's about a 10 to 15

1:40:45 ↗ foot wide walkway that has direct sight

1:40:49 ↗ lines to the depot but also

1:40:51 ↗ opportunities to meander within that to

1:40:53 ↗ create we heard a lot of feedback about

1:40:54 ↗ avoiding sort of these straight axial

1:40:57 ↗ views that might feel a little stale so

1:40:59 ↗ to create that experience of wandering

1:41:01 ↗ and slowing down as you go through the

1:41:03 ↗ pedestrian Plaza giving a chance to

1:41:05 ↗ linger also knowing that your head might

1:41:07 ↗ be heading to the depot or Beyond so on

1:41:10 ↗ the next slide you'll see a couple

1:41:11 ↗ different sections to give you a sense

1:41:12 ↗ of what this looks like

1:41:13 ↗ three-dimensionally the plaza the lawn

1:41:16 ↗ itself is fairly low and one big

1:41:18 ↗ difference from the previous schemes to

1:41:19 ↗ this one is that you'll see on the lower

1:41:22 ↗ um elevation that the lawn is sloped

1:41:24 ↗ from the streets side uh at Sunset to

1:41:28 ↗ the back towards Depot it's sloped from

1:41:30 ↗ about a two foot high wall down to zero

1:41:33 ↗ down to flush with grade and what that

1:41:35 ↗ does is it provides wheelchair

1:41:37 ↗ accessibility onto this lawn and it's

1:41:39 ↗ approximately about a two to three

1:41:41 ↗ percent slope which as a sitting surface

1:41:44 ↗ is pretty much flat but as a element

1:41:47 ↗ that's viewed you'll see that it's

1:41:48 ↗ sloped so this we really wanted to look

1:41:51 ↗ at how this space could be more

1:41:52 ↗ accessible and inclusive to everybody so

1:41:54 ↗ this idea of the tip lawn came into play

1:41:56 ↗ in that way but it also happens to we

1:41:58 ↗ think kind of expressing more of a

1:41:59 ↗ natural kind of form that feels like the

1:42:01 ↗ Gravel Bar that we're trying to uh evoke

1:42:03 ↗ and so that's what you see here with

1:42:05 ↗ this idea that sort of a more of a

1:42:06 ↗ raised element on the street side that

1:42:08 ↗ presents the water feature and then it

1:42:10 ↗ gradually slopes down to the the maples

1:42:12 ↗ and the natural side towards the back

1:42:13 ↗ improvise that open opportunity along

1:42:15 ↗ the way

1:42:18 ↗ um and you can get a sense from this

1:42:19 ↗ section the upper section this idea of a

1:42:21 ↗ narrower path on the left side and a

1:42:23 ↗ wider path on the right side that allows

1:42:25 ↗ more free-flowing circulation for

1:42:27 ↗ pedestrians

1:42:29 ↗ um lastly you can see these benches here

1:42:31 ↗ again this idea of in this case we're

1:42:34 ↗ interested in this idea of a bench that

1:42:37 ↗ evokes uh the railroad in in the sort of

1:42:39 ↗ railroad ties and even the metal base

1:42:41 ↗ might have the sort of rail rail kind of

1:42:43 ↗ metal character to it so that's another

1:42:45 ↗ opportunity just to insert something

1:42:47 ↗ that feels a little more historic

1:42:50 ↗ and uh if you go to the next slide

1:42:52 ↗ please

1:42:53 ↗ get a little bit of a sense

1:42:54 ↗ three-dimensionally we didn't really

1:42:56 ↗ present like a fully finished

1:42:58 ↗ perfect rendering here this is more just

1:43:00 ↗ to give you a sense of the scale but

1:43:02 ↗ again this opportunity for the

1:43:03 ↗ Meandering water feature and Paving

1:43:05 ↗ pattern one thing that's not shown here

1:43:08 ↗ we'll show you the materials next we're

1:43:09 ↗ exploring both the idea of these

1:43:11 ↗ hexagonal pavers or more natural kind of

1:43:13 ↗ paver element that might intersect with

1:43:16 ↗ more of a rail inspired Paving they

1:43:18 ↗ might have a more of a linear Rhythm to

1:43:20 ↗ it that feels a little bit more like

1:43:21 ↗ that rail rail line rhythm

1:43:24 ↗ um so we kind of have this juxtaposition

1:43:25 ↗ of more of the town and the history

1:43:27 ↗ and the nature within the paving itself

1:43:30 ↗ so we recognize we want something to

1:43:32 ↗ feel natural but we also wanted to have

1:43:33 ↗ the energy of town that it's a space

1:43:35 ↗ that has an atmosphere to it that feels

1:43:37 ↗ a little bit

1:43:39 ↗ um sort of contemporary situated within

1:43:41 ↗ the town itself so you can see the the

1:43:43 ↗ view to the depot the Promenade through

1:43:45 ↗ the water feature on one Edge scaled

1:43:48 ↗ down and kind of uh with spillover and

1:43:50 ↗ I'll show you a couple describe a little

1:43:52 ↗ bit of that in a second the raised lawn

1:43:54 ↗ and the what we're calling the Valley

1:43:55 ↗ Trail on the right left side

1:43:57 ↗ the next slide

1:43:59 ↗ so just a couple notes about the water

1:44:01 ↗ feature uh like Charlie's caveats uh

1:44:03 ↗ it's not designed yet but what we're

1:44:05 ↗ thinking is that it's going to have

1:44:07 ↗ essentially three components the first

1:44:10 ↗ is that there will be a a runnel that

1:44:12 ↗ runs along the top along with the lawn

1:44:14 ↗ and that's what you see with number one

1:44:15 ↗ on the upper left it's sort of a channel

1:44:17 ↗ that's up at the level with the lawn and

1:44:20 ↗ that's the place where we could have the

1:44:22 ↗ the sort of idea of little fountains

1:44:24 ↗ that provide that went uplit create kind

1:44:26 ↗ of a candle effect at night as well as

1:44:28 ↗ this opportunity when the water is going

1:44:29 ↗ up and down to provide those channels

1:44:31 ↗ and undulations that create a natural

1:44:33 ↗ effect as well as the reflecting effects

1:44:35 ↗ so we can really play with the subtle

1:44:38 ↗ variations of water to express that

1:44:40 ↗ Meandering Isla Creek as well as the

1:44:42 ↗ atmosphere of the Town through the

1:44:44 ↗ candles and then in strategic moments

1:44:46 ↗ particularly at the entrance to the park

1:44:49 ↗ um or The Pedestrian park by the street

1:44:51 ↗ there might be a space where it spills

1:44:53 ↗ over as we're calling the riffle Falls

1:44:55 ↗ whereas sort of spilling over textured

1:44:57 ↗ cobbly type elements that create a sort

1:45:01 ↗ of a softer sound really evoke that

1:45:03 ↗ sound and the quieter sound of the creek

1:45:04 ↗ in the valley and provide that tactile

1:45:07 ↗ and then the children can walk up to

1:45:08 ↗ that you can kind of feel that natural

1:45:10 ↗ feel to it so that's what those images

1:45:12 ↗ are evoking and then when it hits the

1:45:13 ↗ bottom

1:45:15 ↗ it would it would sort of spill out into

1:45:18 ↗ a shallow pool that would be fairly uh

1:45:21 ↗ narrow it might be five feet wide but it

1:45:24 ↗ would be a shallow kind of pool that you

1:45:25 ↗ see down here that's just basically a

1:45:28 ↗ thin screw of water that basically

1:45:30 ↗ allows it gives you a space to

1:45:33 ↗ provide more Reflections for children to

1:45:35 ↗ kind of run past and stomp and kind of

1:45:37 ↗ another tactile experience so that's

1:45:39 ↗ what you see down on here on the right

1:45:40 ↗ side so what we're setting up here is

1:45:43 ↗ this opportunity to use these three

1:45:44 ↗ different water feature ideas to play

1:45:47 ↗ with the scale to really

1:45:49 ↗ um to provide some different moments

1:45:51 ↗ along the way that are both would be

1:45:54 ↗ create some atmosphere as well as stay

1:45:58 ↗ within uh stay within something that's a

1:46:00 ↗ little more subtle and of the town and

1:46:01 ↗ of of the creek

1:46:03 ↗ so the next slide

1:46:06 ↗ just to give you an example some of the

1:46:08 ↗ thoughts we have around materials you

1:46:10 ↗ can see on the left some of the ways you

1:46:11 ↗ can we think you could express the the

1:46:13 ↗ Escala Creek hobble idea with materials

1:46:16 ↗ gentle Cascades subtle runnels

1:46:19 ↗ reflection natural materials like Kabul

1:46:21 ↗ the planting can kind of take a more

1:46:23 ↗ naturalistic form in terms of Meadow or

1:46:26 ↗ riparian planting even the treats small

1:46:28 ↗ trees themselves might evoke Birches or

1:46:31 ↗ Alders or other types of trees you might

1:46:33 ↗ see in repairing our environments the

1:46:35 ↗ paving can take on a more naturalistic

1:46:37 ↗ almost pixelated look like some of these

1:46:39 ↗ images or

1:46:41 ↗ um held a little bit more in contrast

1:46:43 ↗ with more linear Paving than might sort

1:46:45 ↗ of replicate and reference the rail line

1:46:47 ↗ and then you see the plinth here give

1:46:49 ↗ you a sense of the scale of what that is

1:46:50 ↗ it's fairly low this this raised table

1:46:52 ↗ is is a low element

1:46:54 ↗ um provides opportunity for seating on

1:46:56 ↗ the edge as well as on top and then this

1:46:58 ↗ idea of using materials like wood to

1:47:00 ↗ really warm up the space reference uh

1:47:02 ↗ some of the rail materials in history

1:47:05 ↗ um next slide please

1:47:08 ↗ this moving over to the senior center

1:47:11 ↗ for a second I just want to show you

1:47:13 ↗ what we really wanted to look at here to

1:47:15 ↗ start is we wanted to see how this idea

1:47:18 ↗ of the valley uh the Meandering Valley

1:47:20 ↗ concept translates over to the senior

1:47:23 ↗ center and we think it can really

1:47:25 ↗ translate over quite nicely and provide

1:47:27 ↗ this more park-like connection between

1:47:29 ↗ pedestrian Park Depot and the senior

1:47:31 ↗ center into the main Park itself and so

1:47:34 ↗ this is not a final design but it kind

1:47:36 ↗ of captures some of the key elements

1:47:37 ↗ that we think will move forward in this

1:47:39 ↗ design including the a flexible seating

1:47:42 ↗ and shelter area as we've kind of been

1:47:44 ↗ showing it before

1:47:46 ↗ um a sort of central spine or Promenade

1:47:48 ↗ that sort of has more of a Meandering

1:47:50 ↗ feel to it with opportunities for

1:47:52 ↗ seating next to Planters these seats

1:47:54 ↗ here you can see in section maybe a

1:47:56 ↗ little bit like the lawn you saw at

1:47:58 ↗ pedestrian Park but instead of maybe a

1:47:59 ↗ lawn it may could be a tipped or a

1:48:01 ↗ sloped planter with seating on one side

1:48:03 ↗ and planting on the other that face

1:48:05 ↗ faces the parking lot and provides some

1:48:07 ↗ screening

1:48:08 ↗ and maybe some side Pathways that allow

1:48:11 ↗ for more quiet more intimate seating for

1:48:13 ↗ all the community and seniors as well

1:48:15 ↗ and then as you move towards um towards

1:48:18 ↗ the center uh we heard that comment at

1:48:20 ↗ the very beginning about the memorial

1:48:22 ↗ and

1:48:23 ↗ um it's really a point well taken what

1:48:25 ↗ we're anticipating doing is is yes we do

1:48:27 ↗ want to ride it that use that Memorial

1:48:29 ↗ as a focal point to um situate it in a

1:48:33 ↗ way that really highlights it as

1:48:34 ↗ something that's

1:48:35 ↗ um present in the site and really can't

1:48:37 ↗ take that lightly at all like it's a

1:48:40 ↗ really important design exercise to

1:48:42 ↗ think about the sighting this the

1:48:44 ↗ situating memorial element and we really

1:48:46 ↗ appreciate some of the comments about

1:48:47 ↗ history we'd love to talk more about

1:48:49 ↗ that kind of stuff the missing voices

1:48:51 ↗ the other elements that could be added

1:48:52 ↗ to this so we see that as part of this

1:48:54 ↗ design is an important part of how that

1:48:56 ↗ edge along the parking is addressed and

1:48:58 ↗ how we locate that element so it's it's

1:49:01 ↗ really an important piece to us to

1:49:02 ↗ maintain it in this space and enhance it

1:49:04 ↗ and the lastly As you move towards the

1:49:06 ↗ park and up to the north and east side

1:49:08 ↗ of the senior center we're planning that

1:49:11 ↗ as a sort of abachian activity area and

1:49:14 ↗ that's an opportunity for a number of

1:49:15 ↗ different activities if you go to the

1:49:17 ↗ next slide you can see some of the

1:49:18 ↗ activities we heard a lot of excitement

1:49:20 ↗ about in the community engagement

1:49:22 ↗ around the idea of activities like Bocce

1:49:24 ↗ this is an abachi court that we've

1:49:28 ↗ designed in an urban environment that

1:49:30 ↗ has actually storm water function below

1:49:31 ↗ it but it situates very nicely into a

1:49:33 ↗ simple Plaza environment we've heard a

1:49:35 ↗ lot of interest in opportunities for

1:49:37 ↗ multi-generational play in the form of

1:49:39 ↗ fixed chess tables a desire for flexible

1:49:43 ↗ space for dancing social Gatherings

1:49:46 ↗ other other activities so that that's

1:49:48 ↗ really important uh the opportunities

1:49:50 ↗ for social seating for people of all

1:49:52 ↗ generations and like generations and

1:49:55 ↗ different generations to interact with

1:49:56 ↗ each other and for places to sit and

1:49:58 ↗ kind of watch the park park life unfold

1:50:00 ↗ and also the interest in gardening and

1:50:03 ↗ more interactive planting

1:50:06 ↗ um like raised garden beds and

1:50:07 ↗ Horticultural opportunities for the

1:50:09 ↗ folks that use the senior center

1:50:12 ↗ um one of the last slides the next slide

1:50:14 ↗ is just a reminder of the Creekside

1:50:16 ↗ table shelter and again as I mentioned

1:50:19 ↗ before there was a lot of interest in

1:50:20 ↗ both schemes and the idea of something

1:50:21 ↗ that's warm that uses wood to evoke the

1:50:24 ↗ the natural character of Issaquah that

1:50:27 ↗ uses a more simple form that could be uh

1:50:30 ↗ translate well next to an 80s building

1:50:32 ↗ next to a historic Depot building that

1:50:34 ↗ has a mixture of transparency on the

1:50:36 ↗ roof as in this form one example is

1:50:39 ↗ skylights but also provide Shelter From

1:50:42 ↗ the rain and that flexibility underneath

1:50:44 ↗ the space and size and scale that allows

1:50:47 ↗ a lot of different uses similar to as we

1:50:48 ↗ were discussing with the the eckhouse

1:50:51 ↗ and lastly

1:50:53 ↗ but definitely not least

1:50:55 ↗ um we've begun to explore what we think

1:50:57 ↗ are some really interesting

1:50:58 ↗ possibilities for sustainable approaches

1:51:00 ↗ to this design we're working in more of

1:51:02 ↗ a downtown environment in Issaquah and

1:51:04 ↗ by that I mean the town

1:51:06 ↗ um it's not an urban environment but we

1:51:07 ↗ we're using more Hardscape for instance

1:51:09 ↗ where we're using different approaches

1:51:11 ↗ and some of the opportunities we think

1:51:12 ↗ are around the use of rain Gardens

1:51:14 ↗ biofiltration on the site to really both

1:51:17 ↗ expressed the idea of riparian planting

1:51:19 ↗ and Creekside planting as well as treat

1:51:21 ↗ water we think soil cells are an

1:51:23 ↗ interesting opportunity I'm not sure if

1:51:25 ↗ everyone's how familiar with everyone is

1:51:26 ↗ with these but it's essentially an

1:51:28 ↗ underground structure that allows us to

1:51:31 ↗ have continuous soil systems and

1:51:33 ↗ continuous root systems between trees so

1:51:35 ↗ if we do plant a Grove of trees that

1:51:37 ↗ goes straight through Hardscape Plaza

1:51:39 ↗ the underground system is is totally

1:51:41 ↗ connected and really a lot of data shows

1:51:44 ↗ results in much happier and healthier

1:51:46 ↗ trees

1:51:47 ↗ which both of these translate to the

1:51:49 ↗ idea of enhanced habitat for both of the

1:51:52 ↗ smaller scale with the with the enhanced

1:51:54 ↗ plantings as well as with the trees

1:51:56 ↗ themselves deploying salmon safe

1:51:58 ↗ practices for very obvious reasons and

1:52:00 ↗ that could be with the choice of

1:52:01 ↗ materials thinking about runoff

1:52:04 ↗ Etc and then thinking about the

1:52:06 ↗ opportunities to reclaim recycled and

1:52:07 ↗ sustainable materials both as a way to

1:52:10 ↗ evoke the history of the site and that

1:52:13 ↗ rich history

1:52:14 ↗ but also be uh careful and cautious with

1:52:17 ↗ our resources so these are just some of

1:52:19 ↗ the ideas that we're starting to explore

1:52:20 ↗ that we think are opportunities that can

1:52:22 ↗ really have a visible visible presence

1:52:24 ↗ and strong impact meaningful and real

1:52:26 ↗ impact in the life of the Plaza

1:52:28 ↗ I think that's the last slide I'm sorry

1:52:31 ↗ that was so long but we we're excited to

1:52:33 ↗ kind of share all these ideas we're

1:52:34 ↗ really looking forward to hearing your

1:52:35 ↗ feedback and answer any questions if you

1:52:38 ↗ have them and as Jen's already mentioned

1:52:40 ↗ we um

1:52:42 ↗ again we're presenting these as a sort

1:52:44 ↗ of a direction we're headed with the

1:52:45 ↗ idea that we're going to continue if

1:52:47 ↗ there's interest in this we're going to

1:52:49 ↗ continue over the next month or so

1:52:51 ↗ finalizing more of us a a preferred

1:52:53 ↗ design that would be um sent out to the

1:52:56 ↗ community for a look as well as then

1:52:58 ↗ start to work towards our construction

1:53:01 ↗ drawings and permit drawings and whatnot

1:53:02 ↗ so this is as a step in that process so

1:53:05 ↗ appreciate your time and I'm looking

1:53:07 ↗ forward to hearing any feedback or

1:53:09 ↗ common chef

1:53:11 ↗ great thank you Christian

1:53:14 ↗ um I think right now I would like to

1:53:16 ↗ Quick um turn it over to ad hoc to see

1:53:19 ↗ if you have any

1:53:21 ↗ feedback for the board at large as far

1:53:23 ↗ as some of the conversation we've had at

1:53:25 ↗ um our meetings as far as the design

1:53:28 ↗ Direction where you'd like to go with

1:53:30 ↗ this

1:53:32 ↗ you want to go first okay

1:53:34 ↗ um yeah so there were a lot of comments

1:53:36 ↗ around uh in this survey of around

1:53:38 ↗ wanting the the part to be more natural

1:53:41 ↗ looking to make sure that we're

1:53:43 ↗ designing this part that doesn't look

1:53:45 ↗ like it's in New York

1:53:47 ↗ or uh there were comments about

1:53:49 ↗ practicality of Maintenance so I I think

1:53:54 ↗ um what the what they designed based on

1:53:56 ↗ the feedback

1:53:58 ↗ um reflects a strong

1:54:00 ↗ um consideration of the comments that

1:54:03 ↗ which were a lot uh and the emphasis on

1:54:08 ↗ community identity which is around

1:54:11 ↗ um the the creek

1:54:14 ↗ um the Creekside element of illness

1:54:17 ↗ that's why

1:54:21 ↗ as well

1:54:23 ↗ uh it was really impressive to see how

1:54:26 ↗ uh the PIN

1:54:27 ↗ it started way down at the very basic

1:54:30 ↗ you know words that were identified in

1:54:33 ↗ the um in you know in all the feedback

1:54:36 ↗ and then how they just work their way up

1:54:38 ↗ from from that to you know sort of some

1:54:40 ↗ simple shapes and simple ideas to what

1:54:43 ↗ they presented now at the same time

1:54:45 ↗ folding in

1:54:46 ↗ the more specific desires that people

1:54:49 ↗ Express

1:54:51 ↗ um and I think it's really important to

1:54:53 ↗ note that this is still you know a

1:54:56 ↗ concept design although it's moved you

1:54:58 ↗ know quite far along and uh you know

1:55:01 ↗ some of the comments about managing the

1:55:03 ↗ scale and the width uh we've talked

1:55:06 ↗ about that before and I guess I wanted

1:55:09 ↗ to say I feel comfortable that they are

1:55:11 ↗ really looking at that

1:55:13 ↗ um and uh having seen some of the work

1:55:15 ↗ they've done in some of the

1:55:17 ↗ rendering and then also uh just some of

1:55:20 ↗ the comments that we provided uh during

1:55:23 ↗ our most recent ad hoc meeting and so I

1:55:25 ↗ think what you see here is pretty far

1:55:28 ↗ along but still will be you know worked

1:55:31 ↗ and massage quite a bit more to to

1:55:33 ↗ really fit uh some of the real refined

1:55:36 ↗ details that people are commenting on

1:55:37 ↗ right now

1:55:39 ↗ together

1:55:41 ↗ Marlene on the other Enderman so okay

1:55:46 ↗ well thank you

1:55:49 ↗ um I'd like to open it up to

1:55:51 ↗ um

1:55:52 ↗ Park Board

1:55:53 ↗ um see if you have any more feedback as

1:55:56 ↗ Christian mentioned we would if the

1:55:59 ↗ board's so supported

1:56:00 ↗ um would like perhaps an eventual motion

1:56:04 ↗ if possible

1:56:06 ↗ um that we might be able to continue

1:56:08 ↗ furthering in this design as Christian

1:56:10 ↗ mentioned in order to lead us into

1:56:14 ↗ future construction documents this would

1:56:17 ↗ come back for additional feedback as we

1:56:19 ↗ started refining some of the elements

1:56:22 ↗ but um

1:56:24 ↗ there we go I see Brad do you have a

1:56:26 ↗ hand up

1:56:28 ↗ uh yeah good stuff Christian uh looks

1:56:31 ↗ really good

1:56:32 ↗ um two comments one question all very

1:56:35 ↗ short really like the water features

1:56:38 ↗ um

1:56:39 ↗ figuring in water in motion and and the

1:56:43 ↗ sound of water is two key important

1:56:47 ↗ elements in my opinion to make an

1:56:49 ↗ effective water feature and so and it

1:56:53 ↗ looks like you are considering that

1:56:56 ↗ um as much as I like wood love wood very

1:57:00 ↗ hard to maintain so

1:57:02 ↗ um you know I have a little concern I

1:57:04 ↗ guess with tables and benches and all

1:57:06 ↗ that kind of stuff in terms of what kind

1:57:07 ↗ of material would be used long term

1:57:11 ↗ um and so that's certainly a

1:57:13 ↗ consideration my last is just a question

1:57:17 ↗ is the playground next to the senior

1:57:20 ↗ center going to be removed or is that

1:57:22 ↗ going to be staying where it is

1:57:27 ↗ the playground is staying where it is at

1:57:30 ↗ this time

1:57:31 ↗ um we are hoping budget would allow to

1:57:35 ↗ add an additional accessible route to

1:57:38 ↗ the playground however um we are not

1:57:40 ↗ touching the playground as part of this

1:57:42 ↗ work okay

1:57:44 ↗ that's it for me thanks looks good

1:57:47 ↗ yeah

1:57:49 ↗ uh I was surprised

1:57:52 ↗ um in kind of a setup of the description

1:57:56 ↗ of the the

1:57:57 ↗ um

1:57:58 ↗ of this project that we talked about the

1:58:01 ↗ the Creed which I get and the and the

1:58:04 ↗ depot but um we didn't mention the

1:58:07 ↗ historic nature of the field

1:58:10 ↗ um and I just want to you know make sure

1:58:12 ↗ that we're all on the same page like

1:58:14 ↗ this this field was brought to us by our

1:58:17 ↗ community like 100 years ago was a

1:58:19 ↗ Grassroots or you know like

1:58:22 ↗ um firefighters and miners like you know

1:58:25 ↗ bought like basically bought the

1:58:28 ↗ um the property

1:58:30 ↗ um in order to play baseball on it

1:58:32 ↗ um and so I think it's important that we

1:58:35 ↗ remember that and as you know as we

1:58:38 ↗ think about renovating these Parks

1:58:41 ↗ um that we you know uh think about the

1:58:44 ↗ history of them and what elements we

1:58:46 ↗ want to keep that field was also used so

1:58:49 ↗ it was used for baseball by them it was

1:58:51 ↗ used for the high school for football

1:58:54 ↗ um and baseball and like the remnants of

1:58:56 ↗ the grandstands are there

1:58:59 ↗ um and it is uh and for rodeos too you

1:59:03 ↗ know so there are a lot of other

1:59:04 ↗ elements I think that we could

1:59:07 ↗ um you know think about incorporating

1:59:09 ↗ into

1:59:11 ↗ um

1:59:12 ↗ into a plan and I just wonder you know

1:59:16 ↗ we're not talking right now about the

1:59:17 ↗ master plan for that or planning for

1:59:20 ↗ that part of the park but I want to make

1:59:22 ↗ sure that whatever we do here will you

1:59:25 ↗ know be neutral enough to be able to

1:59:26 ↗ work with whatever happens you know with

1:59:28 ↗ that field

1:59:30 ↗ in my and just because this is my last

1:59:33 ↗ cardboard meeting on this board like I

1:59:35 ↗ just want to say like I in my mind

1:59:37 ↗ um it would be a beautiful nod to

1:59:39 ↗ history to create a like a really nice

1:59:42 ↗ Little League field on that in that

1:59:44 ↗ baseball area and it was would allow it

1:59:48 ↗ wouldn't have the same encroachments

1:59:49 ↗ because they don't hit as far into the

1:59:52 ↗ other areas of the park

1:59:54 ↗ um but it is the most spectacular place

1:59:56 ↗ in hezekuato watch a baseball game and

1:59:59 ↗ little league

2:00:00 ↗ um you just have so many little kids in

2:00:02 ↗ such a family fun atmosphere and I think

2:00:05 ↗ the senior center it might draw you know

2:00:07 ↗ people to come watch you know watch the

2:00:09 ↗ games there and stuff too so I hope that

2:00:12 ↗ um and that would be a beautiful nod to

2:00:13 ↗ our history

2:00:14 ↗ um in Islam so anyway I just want to

2:00:17 ↗ throw that out there and make sure that

2:00:19 ↗ whatever it is that we're doing and that

2:00:21 ↗ we're designing it but you know also

2:00:24 ↗ will work with whatever the future plans

2:00:26 ↗ is are there you may recall as part of

2:00:29 ↗ the master planning work with work with

2:00:31 ↗ John Fells who created kind of a guiding

2:00:33 ↗ document about some of the history in

2:00:35 ↗ these spaces and that has really been

2:00:37 ↗ guiding some of our design for this

2:00:39 ↗ keeping in mind kind of the bigger

2:00:42 ↗ picture as to what we're doing so we're

2:00:44 ↗ really thinking

2:00:46 ↗ for this space but how it could also

2:00:48 ↗ translate to a bigger story as part of

2:00:50 ↗ the whole park so I think that's we've

2:00:52 ↗ had a lot of conversation in and around

2:00:54 ↗ that good yeah

2:01:00 ↗ any any other comments or feedback

2:01:06 ↗ um well I've been with her comments uh

2:01:08 ↗ I'd like to propose a motion to support

2:01:10 ↗ the preferred design for pedestrian Park

2:01:12 ↗ and senior centers Senior Center Plaza

2:01:14 ↗ and move the projects designed forward

2:01:16 ↗ into construction documents and

2:01:18 ↗ permitting

2:01:20 ↗ I'll second that

2:01:22 ↗ great so I think we have time for a

2:01:24 ↗ little bit of discussion there and I

2:01:26 ↗ just want to make note that we do have a

2:01:27 ↗ lot of regular members that are not in

2:01:29 ↗ attendance but it's meeting um so I will

2:01:31 ↗ need both alternate members to to vote

2:01:34 ↗ for this

2:01:40 ↗ so uh all in favor of uh including

2:01:43 ↗ motion raise your hand

2:01:57 ↗ okay I have five and David did you want

2:02:02 ↗ to abstain or vote no oh I see you

2:02:05 ↗ voting to move forward yeah great

2:02:10 ↗ all six great and we look forward to

2:02:13 ↗ bringing this forward

2:02:15 ↗ um

2:02:16 ↗ and as we further the design and keep me

2:02:18 ↗ abreast of where we're at on in the

2:02:20 ↗ process so

2:02:22 ↗ thank you for that

2:02:24 ↗ um as a quick reminder kind of where

2:02:26 ↗ we're at

2:02:27 ↗ um as we further refine the design like

2:02:30 ↗ I said we would share it we'll start

2:02:32 ↗ working into construction documents and

2:02:35 ↗ permitting and hopefully

2:02:37 ↗ oh hopefully by the end of this year

2:02:41 ↗ I say that with all fingers and toes

2:02:43 ↗ cross we will be starting construction

2:02:45 ↗ and

2:02:47 ↗ um moving this project forward to trying

2:02:49 ↗ to meet our deadline for next year so

2:02:52 ↗ with that

2:02:54 ↗ um thank you all very much for your time

2:02:57 ↗ sorry we've run just a little bit over

2:02:59 ↗ but I will turn it back to you chair

2:03:00 ↗ okay great uh keep mine uh pretty brief

2:03:04 ↗ here but I mainly wanted to take this

2:03:07 ↗ opportunity to

2:03:09 ↗ um recognize Danielle for her uh 18

2:03:12 ↗ years of service on the board and also

2:03:15 ↗ her uh five years of service is the

2:03:18 ↗ chair and uh

2:03:20 ↗ yes thank you so much for for

2:03:31 ↗ [Laughter]

2:03:32 ↗ eign

2:03:39 ↗ everything seems to go so slowly but you

2:03:41 ↗ know like it does you know it's amazing

2:03:43 ↗ what actually gets done in that time

2:03:45 ↗ yeah so well thank you for your pleasure

2:03:48 ↗ yeah thank you

2:03:51 ↗ my only other thing uh next next week is

2:03:54 ↗ the um we'll be nominating

2:03:58 ↗ um potential for chair Vice chair and uh

2:04:01 ↗ perhaps uh going through uh elections

2:04:03 ↗ for for that so uh yeah interest and and

2:04:08 ↗ uh volunteering for her chair or vice

2:04:11 ↗ chair just take the next week or so to

2:04:13 ↗ or not next month or so to uh

2:04:17 ↗ sort of

2:04:19 ↗ decide on that and um turn it over to

2:04:21 ↗ the Newton representative

2:04:24 ↗ um yeah so uh we just had our Harry

2:04:27 ↗ Potter night event a couple of weeks ago

2:04:31 ↗ and that was really good you'll still

2:04:33 ↗ had our state of mind confidence that

2:04:35 ↗ was also a big success and then coming

2:04:38 ↗ up uh June 4th I believe we have our sea

2:04:43 ↗ kids triathlon and that's our biggest

2:04:45 ↗ and final event of the year yeah wow

2:04:48 ↗ okay coming up quick

2:04:54 ↗ and directors of course I will be

2:04:56 ↗ filling into Jackie filling in for maybe

2:04:58 ↗ we'll do it I can do it really quickly

2:05:01 ↗ so bear with me uh just a couple of

2:05:04 ↗ items because I know we have some ad hoc

2:05:06 ↗ members that are wondering what am I

2:05:08 ↗ going to start when am I going to start

2:05:10 ↗ so quick update on those items

2:05:13 ↗ um

2:05:14 ↗ Hillside Park really quick we are in

2:05:17 ↗ design and permitting right now

2:05:20 ↗ um we are at 60 construction documents

2:05:22 ↗ we're doing a quick review we hope to

2:05:25 ↗ submit our permit package

2:05:28 ↗ um by the first of May first week of May

2:05:31 ↗ um so with that once it gets submitted

2:05:34 ↗ uh we'll be in the active process and

2:05:37 ↗ then we'll also have an environmental

2:05:39 ↗ meeting as part of that process and go

2:05:42 ↗ on but thank you methune for your hard

2:05:44 ↗ work in getting us in uh on permitting

2:05:47 ↗ on that uh the dog park over by the

2:05:50 ↗ community center

2:05:51 ↗ um we finalized our scope with HPB

2:05:54 ↗ landscape architecture and

2:05:58 ↗ um we are anticipating

2:06:00 ↗ um probably the second week of May doing

2:06:02 ↗ some public engagement uh around that

2:06:05 ↗ looking at some options for layout as

2:06:09 ↗ well as materials so more to come on

2:06:13 ↗ that really soon

2:06:15 ↗ the park strategic plan ad hoc we're

2:06:18 ↗ gonna need just a few more weeks before

2:06:21 ↗ you get rolling here we're still

2:06:24 ↗ finalizing the scope with the consultant

2:06:26 ↗ design workshop and

2:06:30 ↗ um we hopefully their first steps will

2:06:33 ↗ be kind of collecting data and doing

2:06:34 ↗ some reconnaissance and wrapping their

2:06:37 ↗ head around everything but once they get

2:06:39 ↗ rolling we will definitely get you

2:06:41 ↗ engaged ad hoc so probably another three

2:06:44 ↗ four weeks I would assume you may have

2:06:46 ↗ your first meeting or so so just keep an

2:06:49 ↗ eye out for an email

2:06:50 ↗ regarding that and then real quick the

2:06:53 ↗ urban forestry management plan ad hoc

2:06:57 ↗ um I Know Dan has been drafting his RFQ

2:07:00 ↗ uh been coordinating with him on that

2:07:03 ↗ and I would anticipate that being

2:07:05 ↗ advertised soon it'll probably have a

2:07:08 ↗ three-week advertising period the

2:07:10 ↗ consultant selection and then we'll get

2:07:12 ↗ you rolling so it might be six to eight

2:07:16 ↗ weeks before that's actually final

2:07:20 ↗ um but anyways more to come soon on that

2:07:22 ↗ once we get a consultant on board

2:07:26 ↗ that's it

2:07:28 ↗ all right good I want to adding on to to

2:07:32 ↗ what Zach said another huge thank you to

2:07:35 ↗ Danielle

2:07:36 ↗ um for our next May meeting we will have

2:07:38 ↗ one new

2:07:39 ↗ um alternate number that will be joining

2:07:41 ↗ us so we'll have some new things in

2:07:43 ↗ um at a new face

2:07:45 ↗ um and then if anybody is interested in

2:07:48 ↗ um nominating themselves or nominating

2:07:50 ↗ somebody else for chair or vice chair we

2:07:53 ↗ will add that to the agenda for um the

2:07:55 ↗ next meeting and you all will vote to

2:07:57 ↗ have that for your next Park Board to

2:07:59 ↗ have your um chair and vice chair

2:08:02 ↗ um and if anybody's interested in what

2:08:03 ↗ that leadership opportunity entails feel

2:08:05 ↗ free to send an email over to myself or

2:08:07 ↗ Jeff and we're happy to chat ahead of

2:08:09 ↗ that meeting and that's it

2:08:12 ↗ great okay so I'll call the close the

2:08:15 ↗ meeting for today next meeting is May

2:08:18 ↗ 22nd

2:08:20 ↗ great see you all then have a great

2:08:22 ↗ night thanks so much

2:08:24 ↗ so much

2:08:26 ↗ all right thank you

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