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Monday, February 27, 2023

7:00 PM · 2h 0m
Topic tracked across meetings:
Public Art Update: Pedestrian Park, Senior Center Plazas, (D,I) AB 8695 1/6
Section
Topic
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of January 23, 2023
packet pp.3–4
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 01-23-23 Park Board Minutes Page 1 CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Creek Manor, 750 17th January 23, 2023 MINUTES Ave. NW, Issaquah
4. REGULAR BUSINESS
4a
Community Investment Strategy Project Update, re: Pedestrian Park and Senior Center Plaza, (I,D)
60 min · Jennifer Fink, Park Planner and Project Administrator Jeff Watling, Director Mithun Consultant Team · packet pp.5–75
Topics: TransportationParks
Staff report:
Community Investment Strategy Project Update - Pedestrian Park & Senior Center Plaza 2/27/23 | PARK BOARD MEETING
4b
6 Year CIP Criteria Follow Up
Discussion · 20 min · Jeff Watling, Director
Topics: Budget
5. REPORTS
5a
Chairperson's Report
5b
Youth Advisory Representative's Report
packet pp.77
Staff report:
Ongoing Calendar – tentative and a working document Month Agenda Items Month Agenda Items January 23 • Title 18 Draft July 24 • TOUR and/or Board • Recreation Update meeting at a park? • 2023 Work Plan – Ad Hoc • Veterans Park or groups? Confluence Park/Ek
5c
Director's Report
0:00 all right uh well welcome to the
0:03 February 27th 2023 meeting I apologize I
0:08 can't be there in person today still
0:10 some lingering cold symptoms so I
0:13 thought it would be best to stay home uh
0:15 but I'll start off with uh taking roll
0:18 call apologies I can't see the room too
0:23 well from from this perspective so
0:26 um when I call your name please uh State
0:28 your presence or take yourself off mute
0:33 so Marlene
0:35 present
0:36 Chris
0:37 present
0:39 Andrew e
0:42 H David
0:45 Nicholas
0:49 Brenda
0:52 present Katie
0:57 all right Tim
1:04 I think I saw Tim on there earlier
1:08 oh we got one more okay and uh Danielle
1:16 Brad
1:17 uh present Andrew M
1:21 present
1:23 you're falling right
1:27 great
1:29 um so moving on to the approval of
1:32 minutes from January the 23rd 2023
1:36 meeting uh did any everyone get a chance
1:38 to look at the meeting minutes
1:42 any uh questions comments Corrections
1:48 all right any objections
1:52 all right so I hereby approve the
1:55 minutes from the January 23rd 2023
1:58 meeting
2:00 um so uh today we have two main agenda
2:03 items the community investment strategy
2:05 the project update for The Pedestrian
2:07 Park and Senior Center Plaza and the
2:10 six-year CIP criteria follow-up are
2:14 there any public comments at this time
2:18 yes I believe so
2:20 all right
2:23 so for uh public comment
2:27 um when recognized just uh unmute your
2:30 microphone or step up to the lectern
2:34 um and state your name and your
2:36 relationship to the city uh be sure to
2:39 speak clearly and pause frequently and
2:41 try to limit your comments to five
2:43 minutes
2:45 thank you my name is Jacob Wagoner I
2:47 live in 360 Northwest Dogwood Street
2:50 uh it is I've been a resident and uh
2:55 around Issaquah since 1945. so I've been
2:59 here a while
3:01 um I'm familiar with this whole process
3:03 I sit on
3:04 one board now Transportation Advisory
3:07 Board and I shared the cemetery board
3:10 for eight years and I was on it for 12.
3:13 so I know about what to expect in this
3:16 room
3:18 um you'll see
3:20 to my right the
3:22 interest the upcoming post actually I
3:26 think there's more people here tonight
3:27 than there is like a normal meeting
3:30 um but we're very concerned about a
3:34 couple of things that's going to take
3:36 place
3:36 so on slide four of the slides
3:41 you'd have a
3:44 box
3:46 with an arrow pointing to the morning
3:49 and one thing I'm quite concerned about
3:52 is there is a lot of history with the
3:55 monument that we have in the uh City
3:58 Visa club that history dates all the way
4:00 back to 1947.
4:02 when our World War II members came home
4:05 and actually purchased that monument and
4:09 gave it to the city
4:10 it's set on a sunset way about where the
4:14 evil is now where Lord he knows where
4:16 City Hall
4:17 sat there for several years and then in
4:20 1992 it got moved because of the new
4:24 city hall and the new library
4:26 and it was moved to its present location
4:30 I actually have the documents
4:33 the receipts or that when it was
4:36 delivered
4:37 there's 19 names on that Monument
4:42 four of those names are from Vietnam so
4:45 on the monument first showed up in
4:47 Issaquah it did not have four names
4:52 those are for Vietnam all the rest of
4:55 the names were on the monument carved
4:57 and they're all for people who lost
5:00 their lives that were from Issaquah area
5:03 the first two were from World War One
5:05 the Erickson family lost their son
5:09 and the other
5:11 um 15
5:13 sorry the other
5:15 13 are from World War II
5:18 and then the last four are from Vietnam
5:23 that is an extremely important
5:27 Monument for US veterans in this city
5:30 because it goes back not only for the
5:33 history of the monument but all of those
5:35 veterans who were Kia killed in action
5:38 in those Wars
5:40 they came from a panelists here in
5:42 Issaquah and I can honestly sit here and
5:45 tell you I know at least four of those
5:48 families
5:50 so to move that document to move that
5:54 Monument would be
5:56 um not a good thing
5:58 it was placed there
6:02 so it would have a predominant place in
6:04 the City of Issaquah where people could
6:07 see it as they came and went from the
6:09 library they could see it when they came
6:13 to City Hall they could have seen it
6:15 when they parked they could see it in
6:17 our park in 2005 I was part of the
6:22 VFW when we asked the city to rename
6:27 Memorial Field to Veterans Memorial
6:30 faith and that was taken right away and
6:34 they passed that with no hesitation
6:36 whatsoever
6:40 on that slide four there's a little box
6:43 and it says
6:46 relocate monument and flagpole
6:50 I can tell you that felt like ripping
6:53 the Band-Aid right off the wound
6:55 and it's not anything we want to see
6:58 happen at all
6:59 the second slide
7:02 that I want to talk about is slide
7:04 number five
7:05 it said
7:06 coordinate with various individuals
7:09 groups whatever
7:11 no coordination has been made to the
7:14 veterans or with the veterans on this
7:18 significant project
7:20 we're playing catch-up here I think
7:23 because we're getting this at a later
7:25 date I know no no nothing's in concrete
7:29 nothing's done
7:31 but I wanted you to know
7:34 all how
7:36 important this is to our via ventral
7:39 community on our VFW community and
7:42 that's where we're here so um
7:46 coordination ongoing
7:49 really needs to be made with our good
7:51 for the community we're pretty easy to
7:53 reach he knows who we are I think
7:55 Jennifer does too so we're reaching out
7:58 asking you please keep us as part of
8:01 this uh ongoing effort
8:06 we just hope that we're not too late we
8:10 want to make sure that that's taken care
8:12 of and one last thing
8:15 2006 there's an old mailbox painted red
8:18 white and blue by the door of the senior
8:20 center Alex Erickson was with me when
8:23 that it was an Eagle Scout project to
8:28 collect and then finally dispose of
8:33 all U.S products
8:36 and to this day with my Congress sitting
8:39 here I did some rub calculation
8:42 2006 to present isn't that about 16 or
8:46 17 years so on those 16 to 17 years we
8:51 have disposed of at no cost to the city
8:55 7 000 over 7 000 Flags
8:59 we've taught the Boy Scouts and Cub
9:01 Scouts how to do that now the Girl
9:03 Scouts are involved
9:05 so we want you to take that into
9:08 consideration as well because it's in
9:10 our predominant location where everybody
9:13 in the city can drop those flights
9:16 now we will looking into hopefully a new
9:20 Dropbox because the post office came out
9:22 and said they don't want to see any more
9:24 of those they used to love as Calvin but
9:27 now they want to be our own type of
9:30 Dropbox so that's a project we've got to
9:33 do for the VFW to get that box switch
9:36 level Institute I've spoken my five
9:39 minutes and my thank you for letting us
9:42 be here tonight
9:48 foreign
10:04 enough to know the city
10:06 I'm also a veteran
10:09 I want to just bring up one thing that
10:11 Dave failed to mention
10:13 is you go through the slides
10:15 there are multiple lanes for what this
10:19 new
10:19 complex is going to be called
10:22 right now it's a Veterans Memorial Field
10:25 that's something that's Mirror Mirror to
10:27 our hearts something we'd like to see
10:29 continue but it's called several other
10:31 things on other slides so we'd like some
10:35 determination on when it's actually
10:37 going to be called
10:38 and I just want to angle everything that
10:40 data center for all my colleagues here
10:42 as well thank you
10:50 thank you
10:58 okay thank you
11:01 any other public comments
11:04 I don't do any other comments online
11:08 okay
11:12 all right thank you for your comments
11:17 um with that said I think we'll move
11:18 toward the community investment strategy
11:21 uh project update
11:24 great
11:26 um good evening everybody I'd love to
11:27 give an introduction to tonight and our
11:30 goals for tonight and also address thank
11:32 you so much both of you gentlemen for
11:34 for your comments
11:36 um Jeff Watling parks and Community
11:37 Services director
11:40 tonight we
11:43 um are going to talk about uh some of
11:45 the work you have a process update on
11:47 the work that the ad hoc group and our
11:51 design team within Architects
11:53 um and staff have been working on as we
11:55 try and pull together some Concepts that
11:57 really will facilitate Community
11:59 engagement as it comes
12:02 here in March through the month of March
12:06 um to to the comments made tonight and
12:10 hopefully again I hope you are all able
12:12 to stick around and sort of listen to
12:14 the discussion
12:16 um thank you thank you very much for
12:18 your your comments
12:20 I will own and want to apologize that
12:24 you were not contacted ahead of tonight
12:28 um that's not like us you can count on
12:30 continued coordination
12:32 through this process as we coordinate
12:35 with with many other but coordination
12:39 with you is is essential um in terms of
12:42 working with VFW
12:44 um what you'll hear tonight and just a
12:47 reminder of what we're trying to
12:49 accomplish tonight uh Park board members
12:51 is we're not looking to make a final
12:54 decision we're not we're not anywhere
12:56 close to knowing what a final design is
13:00 for for this important work
13:02 we are merely trying to take and begin
13:06 to vet what started as community and
13:09 feedback before the pandemic in 2019
13:14 um and now kick off a actual design
13:18 process for a council approved project
13:21 um that will con that will again have
13:26 um really focused period of public
13:28 engagement as we really look at at the
13:32 scope of this project and the focus here
13:34 of this project being pedestrian Park
13:36 and the Senior Center Plaza
13:40 thank you so much for your comment as
13:42 well because you're spot on the the the
13:46 collection of public spaces that this
13:49 project is
13:51 trying to introduce as a first phase is
13:54 take a bunch of disjointed
13:57 public spaces that have had and continue
14:00 to have various names right pedestrian
14:03 Park Depot Park the senior center
14:06 Veterans Memorial Field those are all
14:09 really really important spaces
14:13 but like the names that have been
14:15 adopted suggest they've never really had
14:18 a strong relationship to one another
14:20 tonight's conversation is not going to
14:23 be about Benson's Memorial Field
14:25 um but I think as you'll hear from the
14:28 design team as you'll hear from Jennifer
14:29 we want to keep in mind as we're looking
14:32 at these two areas of focus that we want
14:36 them to be designed in a way that
14:37 they're going to have a strong vibrant
14:39 relationship with Veterans Memorial
14:41 Field that they're going to have a
14:42 strong relationship with these other
14:44 public spaces and this really represents
14:47 a first investment of what
14:49 hopefully for years to come decades to
14:51 come where there is a
14:53 um a monument but that Monument is part
14:57 a cohesive public space that really
15:00 makes up in many ways the heart of Old
15:02 Town so
15:04 um enough of my intro
15:06 again my sincere apologies
15:09 um I'll turn it over to Jennifer and
15:12 she'll walk through with Deb and Emilia
15:16 from lethune Architects and again ad hoc
15:18 group thank you for all your work that
15:20 you've
15:21 last several weeks to get us even to
15:24 this process check so I really look
15:26 forward to the the conversation and
15:28 feedback from all of you as parkour
15:30 members
15:38 might just be helpful to
15:41 find a quick overview of the timeline
15:43 because yeah
15:47 somewhat responding to your comments
15:50 we believe we're very early maybe not as
15:53 early as we should have been but it's
15:55 still quite early and so
16:01 yeah and I think you'll hear through the
16:03 process that very thing and it was part
16:06 of the plan too very very shortly after
16:08 this to be reaching out so yeah so
16:12 probably we're still on the front end of
16:14 public Outreach and on the front end of
16:16 making any type of final design
16:18 decisions
16:20 um and I think you'll hear that tonight
16:22 so again thank you so glad glad you're
16:25 all here and before I get started on the
16:27 presentation if you've added your name
16:29 to this I will be sure in the email to
16:31 add into our contact list as well so
16:39 see the presentation
16:42 all right
16:44 um first of all thank you thank our
16:47 visitors this evening for their comments
16:49 um tonight we're here to talk about what
16:52 started as a community investment
16:54 strategy
16:56 um through Council uh with some arpa
16:58 funds that came to the city which uh
17:01 we'll talk about in a bit but I would
17:03 also like to first introduce
17:05 um our consultant team who is with us
17:07 tonight we have Jeff Gunther uh with
17:10 Methuen Architects and Amelia Jensen
17:14 who's also going to be uh chiming in on
17:17 the presentation with me this evening so
17:21 uh we're going to stop at a couple
17:23 points during the presentation
17:27 so as a reminder
17:30 um the last time the park board has
17:31 heard about this project at large was
17:34 back in November which wow
17:37 um seems like so long ago
17:40 um but that is when city council had we
17:42 provided an update on this project after
17:44 city council had made a motion to go
17:47 ahead and fund this project with Arbor
17:49 dollars for the 23-24 budget city
17:54 council authorized 4 billion to be
17:57 invested into the park system and at the
18:01 advisement of some feedback from the
18:04 park board
18:05 and after Council deliberation they
18:08 broke this into two different projects
18:10 that they wanted to fund with this four
18:12 million dollars 800 000 of it is going
18:15 to um Confluence Park house project
18:19 which we are not talking about tonight
18:22 but 3.2 million of Barbara funds for
18:26 investment in The Pedestrian Park Senior
18:28 Center Plaza portions of um what we're
18:32 calling Veterans Memorial Consolidated
18:34 Parks as kind of the capture name for
18:37 Veterans Memorial Field Senior Center
18:40 Jeep Ball Park pedestrian Park Sophie
18:42 here Consolidated we're talking about
18:44 all of the park spaces at once
18:49 foreign
18:50 these are just reminders of some of the
18:52 graphics that were shown to city council
18:55 back in October of last year of the
18:58 areas that are being considered as part
19:01 of this we are not
19:03 um as Jeff mentioned designing Veterans
19:05 Memorial Field at this time though as
19:08 we're thinking of these spaces we are
19:11 looking collectively at the
19:13 functionality of the larger space in
19:15 order to make sure the work we're doing
19:17 Within These highlighted areas
19:19 you can see so this is pedestrian park
19:23 down if anyone can see my hand down here
19:25 on the corner of front and sunset this
19:28 is the area that's called pedestrian
19:30 Park but we're also wanting to draw a
19:33 connection through the parking lot over
19:35 into the depot area if budget should
19:38 allow
19:39 and then we're also focusing on the
19:41 Senior Center Plaza the area here in the
19:44 center that's kind of shaded out is not
19:46 fully funded and not part of this
19:48 project but we are looking at how we can
19:51 perhaps do a connection to make sure
19:54 that these spaces read together in
19:57 aren't disjointed as part of the entire
19:59 park
20:01 here's just a quick close-up picture of
20:04 what was shown to council back in
20:06 October as a reminder of where our
20:08 starting point for some of this design
20:10 work was this was based on feedback
20:13 um some of the elements within these
20:15 designs from our 2019 Community
20:17 engagement
20:19 and also some ideas we were talking
20:21 about around the Senior Center Plaza how
20:24 can we make it more accessible how can
20:26 we make it more functional how can we
20:28 open up that space and really let the
20:31 senior center start relating to the play
20:33 areas and to the rest of the park and
20:35 provide some activity areas as well
20:41 so since our meeting in November we
20:44 probably after the holidays wondering
20:46 what has been going on
20:49 um we've been doing a lot and we've been
20:50 working a lot with our ad hoc committee
20:53 we've been doing a lot of site analysis
20:55 work understanding each of the side
20:57 areas what's happening out there on the
20:59 ground doing some research about some of
21:02 the history of the sites we've also been
21:05 coordinating with some neighborhood
21:07 businesses we've met with issquite
21:09 History Museum we've met with the
21:12 Creative Arts District board
21:15 and uh also been reviewing and going
21:19 back to that 2019 public engagement
21:22 again to really check and validate the
21:25 work that we're doing to make sure it's
21:27 um holding true uh to where we're going
21:31 so since that time
21:34 um we've also been working with the ad
21:36 hoc committee which is a representation
21:38 of four members of the park board we
21:40 have three of them here tonight Andrew
21:42 Myers Marlene Wesley and Chris kobek so
21:46 I'm going to ask them to chime in a
21:48 little later
21:49 um in the presentation
21:50 but in early February once we started
21:54 giving a little research and we took
21:56 some of the initial feedback we did kind
21:58 of a basis of design and looked at a
22:00 whole bunch of variety of options and
22:02 ideas
22:04 um that were just all individually
22:05 floating around and then in uh on
22:09 Valentine's Day February 14th uh was
22:12 really when we came together and started
22:14 focusing on four framework options for
22:17 this design work and Amelia's going to
22:19 be walking us through some of those and
22:23 through that work with the ad hoc
22:24 committee looking at some of the pros
22:27 and cons of each of the different design
22:28 spaces we've narrowed this down into two
22:32 preferred Concepts that we are going to
22:35 be taking out to the community for
22:36 engagement again these are Concepts
22:40 these are we want feedback on these and
22:44 likely what will eventually be a final
22:46 product
22:47 will likely be a combination of elements
22:49 of both of these Designs Plus input from
22:51 the community so timing is very well for
22:56 initial engagement
22:59 um we'll hit some of the project
23:00 timelines kind of at the end of the
23:02 presentation and next steps but for now
23:05 I think I'm going to pass it over to
23:07 Amelia to start walking us through the
23:10 framework studies and just let me know
23:12 when you want me to
23:14 do not slide Amelia
23:21 hold on
23:23 I think
23:26 that we needed myself again
23:28 um I think Deb was actually going to
23:29 take this first portion and then I'm
23:31 going to take over the next section
23:33 yeah I could jump in here thank you so
23:36 really great to see everyone
23:38 um I'm Deb Gunther
23:40 um I'm partner and the landscape
23:41 architect at methune so really great to
23:43 to be with you all tonight
23:46 um we wanted to just point out in this
23:48 slide that um uh you know as we're
23:51 looking at two specific sites that you
23:53 heard about we're also always looking
23:55 zooming out and looking at the overall
23:57 context and so a lot of the ideas that
24:00 you see starting to be suggested here
24:02 came from that 2019 Outreach strategy
24:05 ideas of you know what happens when you
24:07 get to the end of the plaza processional
24:10 and you've walked through ped Park
24:11 you've walked through Depot Park you've
24:13 arrived at senior center you know maybe
24:16 that there's a strolling Loop for
24:18 example this that is still something
24:20 that's being
24:22 um developed but we want to be thinking
24:24 about what are the possibilities so that
24:26 we're not designing something that
24:28 precludes different options from being
24:30 you know evolving at Veterans Memorial
24:33 oil field so we're thinking about how
24:36 the scale changes zooming in zooming out
24:38 and we're also thinking about how the
24:40 scale changes from what's shown in pink
24:43 which is a little more of a Civic scale
24:45 associated with
24:47 um the Rainier Trail and this city hall
24:50 but also uh moving across to the
24:53 neighborhood scale in the purple on the
24:56 east side and so on the next slide you
24:59 can also see that as we talk about water
25:02 features tonight this won't necessarily
25:05 be the only water feature and so as
25:07 we're thinking about the long-term
25:09 development of the overall park there
25:11 might be a series of water features the
25:14 other thing that we're thinking about is
25:15 this is there might be a series of
25:17 pavilions and so as you start to think
25:20 about what you're looking at
25:22 um we want you know we're we're always
25:24 thinking about how can those become part
25:27 of an experience that you see again
25:29 elsewhere in the park and that starts to
25:31 tie all these disparate pieces that Jeff
25:34 was talking about into a more cohesive
25:36 experience
25:40 and the next slide is really zooming in
25:42 on ped Park so we're gonna this is one
25:45 of the two spaces that we'll be talking
25:47 more about
25:48 um this is just the basic conditions
25:51 that are there today that people have
25:53 observed and that we've heard from folks
25:55 about
25:56 um and and observed so the green
25:58 rectangle are the large cluster of uh
26:01 big leaf maples that are out there
26:03 there's been a lot of conversation about
26:05 making sure the sight line to Depot the
26:08 depot building is visible from the
26:10 intersection there's also a lot of
26:13 conversation around the noise level
26:15 that's closer to the corner obviously
26:17 with more traffic it's a noisier
26:19 experience and then wanting to create
26:22 spaces that uh encourage people to
26:26 linger and not just pass through so
26:28 right now it often feels like a
26:31 pass-through space to folks
26:33 um and then lastly the the the walls on
26:37 either side of the the restaurants on
26:39 either side are most of the walls are
26:41 blank or loading
26:43 um and and trash areas and so we want to
26:46 find ways of screening that there's
26:48 opportunity for public art there's
26:51 opportunity for coordination between the
26:54 two property owners and so there's been
26:56 some conversations started there and
26:58 folks are really excited about you know
27:01 how that how that might contribute to
27:04 this space
27:06 and then up at senior center
27:08 um this is a uh wants to be part of the
27:12 same
27:13 um set of kid of Parts there's part of
27:15 the same experience and so uh really
27:18 looking at how how does that
27:21 um pattern of whatever that pattern is
27:23 as we look at the two schemes that that
27:25 starts to show up at the senior center
27:28 as well and that uh your the circulation
27:31 is kind of bringing you into
27:33 um into the overall uh Park experience
27:36 and then
27:38 um an activity area is shown in pink and
27:41 so this is a I think an area that we're
27:43 still evolving but really interesting
27:46 um opportunity to bring some activities
27:49 closer to the senior center and then
27:52 also relate them to the field
27:54 um The Pavilion is the thing that we'll
27:56 talk the most about tonight and that is
27:59 an intermediary between the senior
28:00 center and that um that public space and
28:04 one of the interesting things we heard
28:05 from the ad hoc committee that we took
28:07 to heart was just thinking about
28:09 how that Pavilion wants to feel
28:12 um very much part of that Civic space
28:14 and not get too close to the senior
28:16 center so that everyone feels that that
28:18 Pavilion is is available to them to to
28:21 use
28:24 so um there's just some idea of uh
28:29 thinking about that activity area
28:32 um it's a pretty narrow space between
28:34 the building and the trees so we started
28:36 looking at both sides of the trees and
28:39 really thinking about which parts are
28:41 garden areas which parts are maybe Bocce
28:44 or sport you know some kind of
28:46 shuffleboard type play area
28:49 um of games and which parts are seating
28:52 and how those relate to the open field
28:54 area and the paths that go through there
28:57 so these are just starting to look at
28:59 what combinations those elements might
29:02 play with each other
29:06 and Amelia is going to walk us through
29:08 that first set of four uh framework
29:10 ideas
29:12 yeah thanks Deb can everyone hear me
29:14 okay
29:15 yes great
29:18 um so
29:19 after uh after some of those initial
29:22 studies some of that analysis and
29:24 inventory of the existing spaces
29:27 um we did a whole bunch of brainstorming
29:29 I think we ended up having maybe 15
29:31 ideas at some point of how this might
29:33 play out uh Within These spaces but
29:36 these are the four framework plans that
29:38 that we brought to your ad hoc committee
29:41 and that we worked through working
29:43 towards the two concepts that we're
29:46 going to share in more detail tonight
29:47 but we just wanted to show these because
29:49 as we've said in the beginning all of
29:53 these plans are still very much up in
29:55 the air and flux there's lots of ideas
29:57 and there's anything you see in these
30:00 plans that is really exciting to you
30:02 maybe we want to bring that back so just
30:04 be thinking about that as we look
30:06 through all of these options that these
30:08 are also very much
30:10 up in there and on the table so
30:13 um the four Concepts really spoke to
30:16 different aspects of Issaquah
30:18 um and and how and what we
30:21 saw was important to people who live in
30:24 Issaquah and and care about this park so
30:28 um the first concept uh builds off the
30:31 idea of glacial erratics this is
30:33 something that you may have seen around
30:35 in some of your Parks these large
30:38 Boulders that were deposited during the
30:40 last ice age
30:42 um and so that really speaks to the part
30:47 of Issaquah that is really about the
30:50 outdoors and about exploring and about
30:52 this kind of natural elements the
30:55 counterbalance concept
30:57 um really takes those maple trees as a
31:00 big weight in the space and seeks to
31:03 offset them with another large weight of
31:06 a water feature and this becomes this
31:08 setup within the space that really
31:10 creates this Meandering path and it's
31:12 really beautiful sort of trail-like
31:13 experience
31:15 um that you'll see this is one of the
31:17 concepts that we're moving forward
31:19 tonight the rail fragments um
31:23 uh is really drawing on Issaquah history
31:27 um and thinking about the rail area
31:30 um and then the final concept really
31:32 draws more on the community and the
31:35 experience of being together so we can
31:38 move move forward I'm going to run
31:40 through these pretty quickly
31:42 um so like I said the glacial erotics
31:44 concept
31:45 um really draws on these these large
31:48 expressive Boulders that have a lot of
31:50 character
31:51 um a lot of mock a lot of warmth and and
31:55 moisture and these Boulders would be set
31:58 in little pools that would be collecting
32:01 water dripping off the boulders you go
32:04 to the next slide
32:08 um as you can see here how we'd have a
32:10 couple of larger and couple smaller
32:12 rocks for some of them for climbing some
32:14 of them for
32:15 um for water to be expressed and then if
32:19 you go to the next slide
32:21 in the evening some of those pools could
32:24 be lit from below with some sparkly
32:25 lights so you really get this warm kind
32:28 of magical inviting feel from these
32:30 pools in the boulders
32:31 and go to the next slide
32:34 over at the senior center that's concept
32:37 really translates into a series of
32:40 raised or lowered Planters with
32:43 Associated benches and the
32:46 um The Pavilion that's associated with
32:49 this concept you could go to the next
32:51 slide is
32:54 a it is a response to that same kind of
32:59 weight gravity of the glacial erratic
33:01 holders and it's this sort of origami
33:04 shaped cortense feel structure that is
33:08 really inspired by flowers
33:11 um and at the base of each they'd be
33:14 collecting water and and have a little
33:16 pool of a rain Garden at the base
33:18 and go to the next concept
33:21 through this one very quickly because
33:23 this is one of the concepts that we'll
33:25 be speaking about more uh but this is
33:27 the counterbalance concept we have the
33:30 maples on the left
33:34 Auto feature on the right side
33:37 um and we have these beautiful arching
33:38 Jets and we're moving through this Grove
33:41 of trees and around and through to the
33:43 rest of the park
33:47 things
33:49 you can skip to the next slide
33:52 and so this concept is really lit with
33:55 bollards and under benches and this glow
33:58 from the water feature
33:59 the next slide
34:02 and over at the senior center that same
34:05 sort of counterbalance of moving from
34:07 one side to the other and having this
34:09 profession if you move through the space
34:11 it's really comfortable flow with these
34:14 uh these bent benches
34:20 side and that Pavilion in this concept
34:23 is a little bit different from where we
34:25 ended up but still a really interesting
34:27 option this is a glass roofed Pavilion
34:30 with these very light wood
34:33 um themes that allow a lot of light to
34:36 come through so it's a little bit of a
34:38 different expression
34:40 um of of light and Shadow that really
34:43 keeps a
34:44 it keeps it really light underneath also
34:47 protecting you from the rain in the
34:48 winter months
34:50 the real fragments concept really came
34:54 from it was inspired by Don sells art
34:58 ideas for
35:01 for the football Park and
35:05 um these ideas of these found objects
35:07 like pieces of the old rail line
35:10 um can see some of those images in the
35:12 bottom middle of the of the inspiration
35:15 images
35:17 um and this really led us to these
35:19 strong individual forms of water
35:23 underneath a Grove of trees
35:26 that would have water just really
35:29 pooling at the top spilling over the
35:31 sides creating these little pockets of
35:33 seating creating this really comfortable
35:35 space to be able to have that
35:38 um the sound of the water as you're
35:40 sitting at a table having your lunch
35:43 having a conversation with a friend that
35:46 that really spoke to the history of the
35:48 site you can see in the paving these two
35:51 really strong lines that move through
35:54 that emphasize where the old rail line
35:56 used to be coming through this space
36:02 Pockets receiving in the shade
36:05 so that concept translates over here at
36:08 the senior center with similar bent
36:10 forms for its feeding and this shelter
36:13 design that incorporates event roof line
36:18 um that really is meant to evoke the um
36:21 the Foothills around Issaquah and the
36:23 sort of the sort of skyline that you see
36:27 when you look out from the fields
36:31 so our law Concepts and again this is
36:34 one of the ones that we're moving
36:35 forward so you'll hear more about it
36:37 it's really centered around coming to
36:39 the table coming together
36:41 with your community and creating a
36:44 really wonderful unique space
36:47 to spend time in a in a way that
36:51 there is no other place like this in in
36:54 Issaquah so this concept has a
36:58 flat elevated
37:01 artificial turf lawn
37:03 um that's nice and green and comfortable
37:07 um and you know all all months of the
37:10 year uh really beautiful water feature
37:13 with these uh
37:15 these water jets that look like candles
37:18 and then they're lit at night so it
37:21 looks like this beautiful table that's
37:22 been laid out
37:24 for the community together to gather
37:27 around so we have chairs and tables on
37:29 one side we have this beautiful lawn on
37:32 the other side and these water depths
37:34 creating this slow and this um the sound
37:38 and this effect of um
37:40 of this beautiful table that's that's
37:43 set for everyone
37:45 so with that
37:48 um we did have a couple of alternate
37:49 layouts for this plan that's always
37:52 something we can look at again
37:54 um this would be like I said lit from
37:56 the candles lip from below the sense of
37:59 water
38:00 um Lighting in the trees and we've got
38:01 some new visualizations for these as
38:03 well
38:05 um over at the senior center
38:07 um this Pavilion is really inspired by
38:11 the forest and light coming through the
38:13 canopy in the forest so we've got these
38:16 big open
38:18 openings in the the roof of the shelter
38:22 these are actually covered in glass so
38:24 they would just be letting light through
38:25 not water
38:26 um but this really beautiful just light
38:29 touch Pavilion sitting on top of these
38:33 uh metal legs
38:36 so those are the four Concepts we spoke
38:40 with the ad hoc committee at length
38:42 about these we had a lot of really great
38:43 conversations about what it means to be
38:46 in Issaquah
38:47 what it means to live there and
38:50 um what's really important to folks and
38:52 that's what we prioritize moving forward
38:54 so Jen I'll let you take that away
38:58 great thank you Amelia
39:01 um so as we went through those four
39:04 Frameworks uh Design Concepts with the
39:08 ad hoc committee
39:10 um and some of the early work we had
39:11 done
39:12 um during the basis of design
39:14 conversations some of the feedback we
39:17 heard
39:18 um specific to pedestrian Park was you
39:20 know really a strong preference to keep
39:22 it an open space so it could be
39:25 multi-functional so you could really
39:27 enjoy that space But like the natural
39:30 features of rocks and erratics that
39:33 really resonates with Issaquah having
39:37 that natural feature
39:39 but also how important flowing water is
39:43 as a cultural
39:46 meaning and it's really a positive thing
39:50 in many cultures and so that was really
39:53 interesting for us
39:55 um also using light as an attractant
39:58 this is a space that is we want to
40:02 function in the evening hours when there
40:04 are things happening downtown Issaquah
40:05 we want people to be able to enjoy feel
40:08 safe and have a good time out there
40:12 um some of the forms were a little too
40:14 strong and urban within those spaces uh
40:17 for Issaquah uh though we um compared to
40:22 like maybe some of downtown Seattle or
40:24 Chicago areas
40:26 um and one of the concepts there was
40:28 some Mist that was explored as part of a
40:31 landscape or a lighting or a water
40:33 feature thing wasn't quite
40:35 um maybe in Arizona where you need the
40:38 cooling but uh not quite here uh wasn't
40:41 working but um really you know we
40:43 explored the gamut of options on these
40:46 and really as we work with the um
40:50 existing trees that are on site we're
40:52 going to have to do a health assessment
40:54 on those trees and we also really need
40:56 to be thinking of those trees since they
40:59 are so old you know what that long-term
41:01 management is going to be so as we do
41:03 work with arborist we'll find more out
41:05 um about that
41:08 um and then when we look over at the
41:09 senior center
41:11 um I think one thing I that we didn't
41:13 mention and for some of our newcomers
41:15 might be important is we're also looking
41:17 at ways to currently open up some of the
41:20 facade of the senior center right now
41:24 um it used to be an old uh Library space
41:28 And so there's an area that doesn't get
41:31 used that's kind of behind a wall if we
41:34 were to open that up and it could be
41:35 more relatable to the senior center and
41:37 the senior center could have more
41:38 relationship so how do we really provide
41:42 spaces for them and activities
41:44 um because there are no outdoor Elder
41:47 activities that can take place over
41:49 there but also how could they double
41:51 with other community benefit news but
41:54 how can we create a more inviting space
41:57 for everyone
41:59 um we wanted that space to also Orient
42:01 really Foster multi-generational
42:04 interactions how important those
42:07 interactions are to community well-being
42:10 but also
42:12 people like to get out of the weather so
42:14 some of the concepts had more open
42:16 filtration or light
42:19 um uh wanting to make sure that when the
42:22 reviews that they are protected from the
42:24 weather so with that I would like to
42:27 take a minute to ask the ad hoc members
42:30 who are here to add before we get into
42:33 describing each of the two concepts that
42:35 we've narrowed down what else through
42:37 this process through the framework would
42:39 you like to to share with everyone
42:42 if anything I guess I can start
42:45 addicting something that I really
42:47 appreciated in the second meeting is we
42:49 kicked it off by really thinking about
42:51 like what two different parts of this
42:52 club mean to each of the people in the
42:54 room to sort of ground and like watch
42:56 some of those design principles be so
42:58 when we talked about nature or the creek
43:01 or you know some of those types of
43:03 components I thought that was a nice way
43:05 to keep grounding the group on like how
43:07 does a space relate to what makes this
43:10 special versus just any sort of heart
43:14 with benches
43:18 okay uh so one of the things that I
43:21 found
43:23 really fun about the process so Bethune
43:26 brought us these four it's called
43:27 Frameworks here but it's like a themes
43:29 and they are themes and the one of them
43:34 the table
43:35 at first you know that based on they
43:38 brought us images from different
43:40 situations like in Dallas I think and
43:43 they're bigger parks and this is this
43:46 narrow Park and for us it really didn't
43:49 resonate it's I think we're all saying I
43:51 don't know about that one I don't think
43:52 so and
43:55 um then they said well let's play with
43:56 it a little bit they brought it back
43:58 reshaped and resized for this part it
44:02 was pedestrian Park and it was really
44:04 neat to see how
44:07 you could take something that was one
44:08 big shape and resize it and it became at
44:13 least a very positive it may not be the
44:15 favorite in the end but it was a
44:19 it was well liked on the second time
44:20 around and so it was really fun to
44:22 explore all the ideas and ways that you
44:24 know I don't do in my daily routine or
44:26 anything like that so
44:28 yeah I don't have much to add but just
44:31 to build a little about on this concept
44:33 of pulling in different aspects of the
44:36 history and the surroundings where how
44:38 do we find in the natural beauty of
44:41 Issaquah with the history of the
44:43 railroad uh with the you know Urban
44:47 environments and and all of those things
44:50 and there's there's sort of this uh
44:52 cross-section there of the
44:56 80s old library building with the
45:00 surrounding mountains with more of the
45:02 the modern architecture surroundings of
45:06 the residential area with the old town
45:08 like early 1900s downtown so thinking
45:11 about how do you pull all of that
45:13 together in the central part of town so
45:16 that all of those
45:17 Jesus feel reflected without it being a
45:20 hodgepodge
45:24 great I have one question so as I'm
45:28 looking at
45:30 sorry at all these like designs and
45:32 things I was just funny
45:33 um are we like expanding the senior
45:36 center and like these parts and things
45:37 like ripping out other stuff and trying
45:39 to like you know make it bigger or just
45:42 renovating you know what's already there
45:44 and then you know just taking out
45:45 everything there
45:47 great it's a little bit of both so um
45:51 like in pedestrian Park that would be
45:52 more of a renovation of the existing
45:55 space if you've been there there's like
45:56 old trellises
45:58 there's some weird furniture in there
46:01 and you can't really see the depot and
46:03 it feels like a very different space so
46:05 that space would be a little bit more of
46:07 a renovation over at the senior center
46:09 we would be opening up spaces that
46:12 aren't used in a highly functional way
46:14 right now but it's not um
46:18 so we're redeveloping those but we will
46:21 be adding activities in spaces that
46:23 there would not be currently so a little
46:26 bit above and can I add something to
46:29 that so yeah the senior center itself is
46:31 not going to be
46:34 demolished or added to the the facility
46:36 itself it's more how that facility
46:38 relates to the park is really a key goal
46:42 uh rather than the senior center feeling
46:44 like it's just sort of tucked in a
46:45 corner we'd love
46:48 for this project to really help
46:51 give that give that indoor space a
46:55 relationship to the park
46:57 um so it's just basically trying to
46:58 connect okay the senior center to The
47:00 Pedestrian Park and then it's a Memorial
47:03 Field and there to be a better
47:05 relationship between those those public
47:08 spaces
47:09 um I just want to add it it's been a
47:12 great getting and hearing the ad hoc
47:14 group engagement I I still appreciate
47:17 the ad hoc meeting approach that you or
47:20 the ad hoc group approach that U.S Park
47:22 Board are taking I think is really
47:25 impactful as as we work with design team
47:28 to start formulating Concepts Marlene
47:31 thank you for mentioning the that
47:33 question about nature or not about
47:35 nature but about what what is it what
47:38 are the characteristics what are the
47:39 values of Issaquah that we want to sort
47:42 of carry into this work
47:44 um we too really like that question and
47:46 actually as we talk about a survey and
47:49 introducing these two concepts we're
47:52 going to start with that question to the
47:54 community to really pull from our
47:56 residents what what are those elements
48:00 that really really are important in
48:01 Issaquah that we wanted
48:03 so to see resonated through this through
48:05 this project
48:07 and then for
48:10 I think the whole park board is we're
48:11 about to see these two concepts is we're
48:13 about to really enter in and open up
48:15 this discussion for all of you I think
48:18 an important thing to remember with as
48:20 we're refining from these four
48:21 Frameworks down to two concepts we're
48:23 not trying to drive to two perfect
48:25 Concepts that we're going to ask the
48:28 community choose this one or that one
48:30 you know think of this as the
48:32 opportunity how do we introduce ideas
48:35 and in a way test them well you know
48:39 what elements of one option do the
48:42 community seem to like what elements of
48:44 another option did the community seem to
48:45 like to really help inform
48:48 what a final might be we didn't try we
48:52 talked about this with the ad hoc and I
48:53 just think it's an important reminder
48:54 for all of us as you see these neither
48:57 of these are probably perfect neither of
48:59 these are the finished product we don't
49:01 even want to try and do that we want to
49:02 introduce Concepts having a variance
49:05 within them so that we really get a
49:07 sense of where does this community want
49:09 to land with this with this work so
49:14 and with that that's a great segue as to
49:18 how the four framework options were
49:23 kind of picked apart and melded together
49:25 and then broke again into these two
49:27 different revised Concepts
49:30 we also renamed the concepts into
49:34 Creekside table and Valley Trail just to
49:36 help resonate on what is important uh
49:39 within Issaquah
49:41 and so with that I'm going to pass it
49:44 over to Deb to start walking us through
49:47 our first revised concept which is
49:50 Valley Trail
49:52 great thanks Jennifer yeah and thanks
49:54 for that um great segue Jeff because I I
49:58 do think um this is it's great to keep
50:00 in mind that these are in flux
50:03 um so this inspiration for the Valley
50:05 Trail is really uh pulling things
50:09 forward that we heard from the ad hoc
50:11 committee that were important so you'll
50:13 see in both schemes a uh interpretation
50:16 of the glacial erratics and you'll see
50:19 in both schemes different interpretation
50:21 of water and different interpretations
50:23 of how the paths move through the space
50:26 in this version it's it's it's about you
50:29 know creating this experience of of
50:31 really being on a trail
50:32 um and being being
50:34 um uh exposed to these different
50:37 um parts of of being uh part of that
50:41 Valley
50:42 go to the next Slide the valley you know
50:45 scheme the valley was the what we heard
50:48 in 2019 was you know we live in the
50:51 mountains we come down to the Valley and
50:53 so it was really um both of these
50:56 schemes are really looking at ways to
50:57 really accentuate that unique aspect of
51:00 downtown so this really shows you that
51:03 overall framework again we want to keep
51:05 in mind that big scale but we're going
51:07 to zero in on pet Park first
51:10 um at the at the intersection and so
51:12 this is a planned view of of that Sunset
51:15 and um and Front Street are down in the
51:18 lower left and then the depot park is in
51:21 the upper right and so uh you can see
51:24 the water feature is really a set of
51:27 arching water features similar to what
51:29 you saw in the prior scheme and here uh
51:33 the idea is that you've got a very wide
51:36 generous path that you're Meandering
51:38 through this space and it's it's quite
51:40 quite open and there's a new Bosque of
51:44 trees a new kind of set of trees sitting
51:47 in front of those existing big leaf
51:49 maples and you can see here A View
51:52 looking
51:53 um into that space past the water
51:56 feature this is from the corner looking
51:58 toward Depot Park
52:00 um and uh that that wall of the of
52:04 Jack's restaurant in this case we're
52:06 saying what about the potential for a
52:08 public mural as part of that backdrop
52:12 um and uh the plantings in this scheme
52:15 are really all about the The Meadows of
52:18 the valley so grasses and perennials
52:20 lots of seasonal texture but really kind
52:23 of focusing on
52:26 um on that kind of grassy feeling that
52:28 The Meadows bring and then if you go to
52:30 the next slide
52:32 um we're really looking at from uh the
52:36 other side of that same entrance still
52:37 looking toward Depot Park but you're
52:39 kind of getting the view of the the
52:41 water feature so it's an opportunity to
52:44 either you know drag your hand along the
52:47 The Edge the The Arches arching water
52:49 sit on the edge and put your feet in or
52:53 just sit in the bistro tables and kind
52:55 of hear the sounds and the and the
52:57 cooling sense of that of that water
53:01 um and in the very other end this is
53:04 looking back toward the intersection
53:07 um looking at the big leaf maples on the
53:09 right that exists there today and then
53:11 thinking about ways of screening some of
53:14 the the loading um areas of the
53:16 restaurants and so in this case using
53:20 fencing material to do that in
53:22 combination with some of the landscape
53:25 and then the next scheme you get a
53:27 feeling back out at the intersection how
53:30 that night lighting might be visible and
53:33 really focusing on the dancing lights of
53:35 the of the water movement and that
53:38 reflectivity against the the backdrop of
53:41 the grasses and then uplighting the big
53:44 leaf maples so in the senior center
53:46 that's fine that's great to go to the
53:48 senior center so the senior center
53:50 um the uh you can see the uh kind of
53:54 plan view here the benches continue the
53:57 paving kind of patterns continue so you
53:59 know you're in a similar space and I
54:02 wanted to point out
54:03 um because I really appreciated the
54:05 comments from the VFW folks and thanks
54:09 so much for taking the time to come and
54:12 share those stories because it's very it
54:14 really hits when you hear those personal
54:16 stories and
54:18 um and I think in all these schemes you
54:20 can see the island of where the the
54:23 memorial and the flagpole are remains
54:26 and um that it's not something that
54:29 um you know that that has to go and so I
54:32 I think as we learn more uh about this
54:37 this work I think that's definitely
54:40 um really appreciate again the hearing
54:42 that story and um very meaningful
54:46 um and so I think you'll see in both
54:50 schemes that the the island isn't isn't
54:52 changing there
54:54 um and then the Pavilion uh well and in
54:57 fact I wanted to point out that uh some
55:00 of the eight the Ada spaces are actually
55:02 being shifted in this parking lot so
55:04 that you can have a a little more space
55:07 actually that would add to that that
55:10 experience at the memorial and the
55:13 flagpole and becomes the drop-off for
55:15 the senior center so there's more spaces
55:18 that people can drive in drop off and
55:20 then continued on to the the Ada spaces
55:25 um and then go to the next slide I think
55:27 um Amelia did a great job of describing
55:29 this particular Pavilion this is looking
55:31 to the East and um just the idea of this
55:35 undulating form that starts to look like
55:37 the the Foothills and then the next
55:40 um image you can kind of see some of the
55:42 materials the edges The Core 10 steel
55:45 which is a rust color kind of brick
55:47 color which goes with the senior center
55:49 the steel poles and the steel posts in
55:53 this case and the underside is wood and
55:55 then glass skylights that let light
55:57 through into the space
56:00 and then another view then looking back
56:04 um toward Depot Park
56:08 and then you get a feeling for what some
56:11 of those might look like in the actual
56:13 built precedence down below
56:15 foreign
56:18 and then the other scheme is about the
56:21 Creekside table so again inspired by the
56:24 Hatchery for example and really
56:27 um that sort of connection with
56:28 community Through
56:30 um the experience of the salmon
56:32 returning and the Hatchery experience
56:34 and then places to gather with with
56:36 everyone around the table
56:39 um so that was really the driving
56:40 inspiration there and so in this scheme
56:43 you see the overall and then we're out
56:46 here at pet park again this scheme
56:48 instead of the one big wide path we have
56:51 a couple of paths so one that's sort of
56:54 tucked in on the left-hand side a little
56:56 narrower
56:57 um and then one that gives really a
56:58 straight shot to Depot Park and so
57:02 um in the and then you can see the water
57:04 feature which is really an
57:07 interpretation of the glacial erratic
57:09 and so that's a rough hewn rock that
57:11 Emilia described that is sometimes water
57:14 and sometimes planted and so but one
57:17 continuous um
57:18 uh interpretation of that glacial
57:21 erratic that's about the height of a of
57:23 a table and so you can see that here
57:26 um the bistro tables are on one side the
57:29 water candles were kind of call our
57:31 lighting designer called or water
57:33 designer calls them water candles
57:36 um it kind of gives a romantic feeling
57:38 at night
57:39 um kind of gives a lively feeling during
57:41 the day
57:42 um and when you're sitting on the
57:44 Synthetic Turf on the other side you're
57:47 at the same level as those water candles
57:49 so you have a chance to stretch out
57:51 right next to right next to the water in
57:54 that in that space there on the lawn
57:57 um so those stairs also become sitting
58:01 areas and so there's a little bit of a
58:03 cozy more Infamous space as you're
58:07 walking through this this side of the
58:09 park
58:12 and then looking from the other end back
58:14 toward the intersection using plantings
58:16 in this uh approach to screen some of
58:20 the um the loading areas so that's a
58:23 difference between the two schemes and
58:25 then at the night lighting is really
58:27 maybe a opportunity for public art in
58:30 the paving and the night lighting
58:32 and again
58:34 um some of the uh references that Don
58:37 Fels has made in sort of his assessments
58:40 early assessments of of the history of
58:42 of Issaquah and the importance of the
58:44 rail line in this location
58:50 and then in the senior center in this
58:51 scheme
58:52 um again picking up on some of the same
58:54 seating patterns um see a bench bench
58:58 patterns the plantings in this scheme
59:00 are more shrub and Twiggy um Twiggy Vine
59:04 Maple type plantings that um that you
59:08 can still see through but actually
59:10 provide a little more sense of enclosure
59:13 in this in this option and then the
59:15 Pavilion is uh you know reflecting the
59:19 idea of more of a garden trellis so it's
59:21 a more wood structure with some glass
59:25 coverings of those those openings and
59:28 the openings are really creating a
59:30 shadow pattern that is reminiscent of
59:33 the forest and
59:34 um and really getting filtered light
59:36 into the into those spaces
59:44 so I think those are the the two schemes
59:46 that we have to share with you I think
59:49 um it would be great to hear uh any
59:52 comments and oh what I didn't mention
59:54 I'm going to mention one retroactively
59:56 mentioned in the first scheme the um
59:59 glacial erratic interpretation is a
1:00:02 picnic Boulder that you may not have
1:00:04 seen it was a little bit in the middle
1:00:06 ground but the idea is uh by the base of
1:00:09 the tree there's a large Boulder that
1:00:12 folks can actually climb up on and
1:00:14 actually sit on have picnics
1:00:17 um uh and it's sort of you can kind of
1:00:19 see the person yeah red and blue in the
1:00:21 mid ground there by the tree the large
1:00:24 trees that's a low Boulder that folks
1:00:27 can actually sit on and bring you know
1:00:29 have have lunch on that sort of an
1:00:31 alternative seating area that is
1:00:34 reminiscent of that glacial erratic
1:00:36 that's you know very specific to the to
1:00:38 the area
1:00:40 so thank you
1:00:42 look forward to everyone's comments
1:00:46 and Jennifer's gonna go over some of the
1:00:48 the next steps for the schedule
1:00:51 yeah we'll just quick discussion for oh
1:00:55 yeah we can do that no I I yeah I'd love
1:00:58 to open it up for discussion and stop
1:01:00 sharing see who's
1:01:02 got feedback or questions and then we
1:01:04 can talk next steps uh
1:01:10 so Zach you want to facilitate I'm on
1:01:14 mute okay there we go uh Brad I think I
1:01:17 saw your hand up
1:01:19 uh yeah thanks Zach
1:01:22 um boy a lot of good stuff Deb thanks
1:01:23 for sharing all that and all the hard
1:01:25 work that the ad hoc has done
1:01:28 I really like a lot of it and so and and
1:01:30 uh it'd be interesting to see how this
1:01:32 evolves love the water features my only
1:01:35 concern would be maintenance something
1:01:38 for parks to address and and be
1:01:41 interested to hear
1:01:42 uh the maintenance challenges relating
1:01:45 to water features but uh really a big
1:01:47 fan of water features
1:01:49 I love the uh the night lighting uh
1:01:54 really another especially for ped Park
1:01:56 really a good option
1:01:59 um one thing I guess cautionary comment
1:02:02 would be to scale and some of the visual
1:02:05 images because I think that the space
1:02:08 reflected in your images for pedestrian
1:02:12 Park uh the reality is that's a lot
1:02:15 narrower than what your images seem to
1:02:17 suggest and so some of those images
1:02:20 might be a little deceiving in terms of
1:02:22 what you can create there and so I guess
1:02:25 one of my suggestions would be as you
1:02:28 get down to the wire on this to really
1:02:31 put it to scale to really show visually
1:02:35 what that could look like
1:02:37 in reality rather than a dream because
1:02:41 some of those visuals as a go through
1:02:44 there are beautiful but I just don't
1:02:46 think that that's the scale and I and so
1:02:48 I would be reluctant to say that that's
1:02:51 reality
1:02:53 um and um you know one of the other
1:02:55 things and you've commented on a number
1:02:57 of times I this is really all in my
1:03:00 opinion all about trying to keep the
1:03:02 theme close to an Old Town design
1:03:06 concept
1:03:08 um I I think and this is commented on
1:03:11 there
1:03:12 you know an Urban Design which some of
1:03:15 this looks a little like I think is
1:03:18 would be outstanding for some of the
1:03:21 green necklace uh along Gilman Boulevard
1:03:24 as that gets developed because you're
1:03:26 going to be a lot in the future is going
1:03:28 to be a lot
1:03:29 you know high-rise buildings a lot more
1:03:32 new development so I I think some of the
1:03:35 imagery might be more um appropriate for
1:03:39 the green necklace in that area uh
1:03:42 whereas in Old Town it's all about
1:03:44 history
1:03:46 um the rail veterans uh you know that
1:03:51 veteran you know I don't know what's
1:03:52 been explored in terms of veterans
1:03:55 history or Veterans Field but there's a
1:03:57 substantial history to Veterans Memorial
1:03:59 Field and to be able to somehow bring
1:04:03 that into the theme you know I think
1:04:06 would be a good suggestion
1:04:08 um so any of that you know to me it's
1:04:10 old town it's history it's salmon a lot
1:04:13 different than the urban look for the
1:04:15 green necklace over by Gilman
1:04:21 I've said enough thank you
1:04:23 thanks Brad I see Tim's got his hand up
1:04:26 forgive me I can't really see into the
1:04:29 uh actual Tibbetts Manor room so uh Tim
1:04:33 thank you uh and um yeah it's beautiful
1:04:37 designs a lot of work's gone into it a
1:04:41 lot of great ideas I love the trying to
1:04:44 blend in the you know the real sense of
1:04:46 Issaquah the mountains and the water and
1:04:49 the natural features so you know a big
1:04:53 round of applause for that uh
1:04:56 a couple things that came up for me Brad
1:04:58 actually touched on uh which is like The
1:05:01 Pedestrian Park area I really wonder if
1:05:04 you have that rather large water feature
1:05:06 there called a counterbalance how much
1:05:09 actual space is there for people to walk
1:05:11 through there because it's a fairly
1:05:12 narrow space and if you have one or two
1:05:15 people walking through like they were
1:05:17 shown in the uh designs that's fine but
1:05:20 if you have a you know a crowded weekend
1:05:22 with things happening in downtown
1:05:24 Issaquah and there's a substantial
1:05:26 number of people going through there I
1:05:28 just wonder if that's not creating a
1:05:29 choke point where it's not intentional
1:05:31 but you may be creating a real choke
1:05:33 point for people trying to walk through
1:05:36 so that's one thought and a lot of it
1:05:38 goes back to Brad's suggestions about
1:05:41 making it really to scale so we can kind
1:05:44 of see what that looks like
1:05:48 along the lines of blending in the old
1:05:52 and the new
1:05:53 I thought that the bringing in sort of
1:05:56 the boulders and the streams and the
1:05:58 trail were great but some of the water
1:06:00 features looked very modern
1:06:03 uh very uh which is a very modern feel
1:06:06 and I've just sort of felt a little bit
1:06:09 of Disconnect between the sort of a very
1:06:11 modernistic uh water feature with kind
1:06:16 bouldery Trail mountain type sense that
1:06:21 you're trying to establish again it's
1:06:23 hard to tell from the pictures these are
1:06:25 just thoughts that came up
1:06:27 uh Again Brad really kind of touched on
1:06:29 some things they were coming up for me
1:06:31 one was around maintenance what's the
1:06:35 projected annual maintenance for either
1:06:38 of these designs has that been looked at
1:06:40 how much will it take if kids are
1:06:43 throwing uh yeah you know there was a
1:06:46 place where I used to live that it was
1:06:48 routine where there was a water feature
1:06:50 for the kids to throw in a pack of like
1:06:53 bubbles so that you know once every
1:06:55 couple weeks you'd walk by and the whole
1:06:57 thing would be going bubbles going
1:06:59 everywhere
1:07:00 so that has to be cleaned out and you
1:07:03 know once somebody does it once it'll
1:07:05 become a thing
1:07:07 um so just that kind of idea
1:07:10 something else that
1:07:12 hasn't been mentioned yet and I'm
1:07:13 curious to know is parking if they're
1:07:17 increasing the desirability of being
1:07:19 there these designs how many parking
1:07:21 spaces are lost or created it's hard to
1:07:25 tell there was some talk about making
1:07:26 some disability parking more accessible
1:07:29 but overall is the we're seeing a net
1:07:33 loss of parking in the area or net gain
1:07:36 and I don't think there's any intention
1:07:38 of adding specific parking spaces so
1:07:41 again just something to think about
1:07:44 um so I think I'll stop there and
1:07:47 like I said big round of applause for
1:07:49 all the hard work that's been put into
1:07:53 attention thank you both Zach forgive me
1:07:59 feel Deb Amelia can you speak to that I
1:08:02 know I know at least initially as you
1:08:05 sort of turn these Concepts into those
1:08:07 3D looks
1:08:08 um those are pretty close to scale
1:08:10 aren't they
1:08:11 it's very it is deceiving
1:08:14 um it's we were surprised ourselves
1:08:16 um I think that when it's about 60 to 70
1:08:20 feet we still need to do the survey work
1:08:23 but um but the but this is coming from
1:08:26 you know scaling off of the aerial
1:08:29 photos I think is that right Amelia
1:08:32 yeah it's actually
1:08:33 um we're scaling both off of Ariel's
1:08:36 photos but also GIS data so we have we
1:08:39 have that data we know that uh these
1:08:42 drawings actually are at scale and I as
1:08:45 Deb said I think all of us the ad hoc
1:08:47 committee Parks all the design team we
1:08:51 were all really surprised and I think it
1:08:53 really speaks to uh the existing
1:08:55 pedestrian Park and really how all of
1:08:59 you know who've walked through it how
1:09:01 dark and kind of narrow and close off it
1:09:05 feels
1:09:06 um from the you know from the
1:09:10 intersection all the way through to
1:09:12 Depot Park so
1:09:14 um yes I complete
1:09:16 complete it is hard to believe
1:09:21 um and I think you know going back into
1:09:24 that space and you know pull these
1:09:26 drawings up on your phone and look at
1:09:28 um and and really think about how that
1:09:30 space Maps out and I think you may be
1:09:32 surprised um that to really realize how
1:09:35 much space there is to work with there
1:09:37 we're very excited about the opportunity
1:09:39 of that
1:09:41 that was a big odd problem at the Advent
1:09:43 committee I would say too I think this
1:09:45 is the first conversation
1:09:47 um I think it's just a Real Testament to
1:09:48 understanding like how design can really
1:09:50 shape a place right so I think we all
1:09:52 think that place is super narrow right
1:09:54 like I think it's like super narrow but
1:09:56 like you know they have the data to back
1:09:58 up how wide it is and you know what fits
1:10:01 in there so again I think it was one of
1:10:03 the bigger surprises from our group as
1:10:05 well and Tim and Brad
1:10:08 yes I was kind of smiling uh Brad and
1:10:11 Tim when you were offering your comments
1:10:13 because we went through this and I had
1:10:17 to go out there myself on a separate
1:10:19 trip to look at the area and you know
1:10:22 it's I've been tuned to the 3D model but
1:10:25 when you go out there then you realize
1:10:27 how poorly it's used now I guess is
1:10:30 really what the you know what we're
1:10:31 learning in this and uh because
1:10:34 one of the things for me was
1:10:37 um like I think about salmon days and I
1:10:39 think we've gone to Salmon days you know
1:10:41 20 times and we walk around we go either
1:10:44 the other way or the other way because
1:10:45 we don't even think of that it's a
1:10:47 thoroughfare it's like this little
1:10:48 narrow
1:10:50 you know utilita or something like that
1:10:52 so once you've seen it opened up uh and
1:10:55 these models is really pretty cool and
1:10:57 then I think when we first saw the table
1:10:59 I'd be in a table theme we thought
1:11:01 there's no way that's going to fit in
1:11:03 there and then methune took it back said
1:11:05 well what if we do this to it and they
1:11:07 did have you know for the modern and
1:11:09 historic balance topic methune did bring
1:11:13 in a couple different variations on that
1:11:15 where they rounded it the table part
1:11:17 some more and then I think the long
1:11:20 linear water feature they're sticking
1:11:23 with long and linear because that's
1:11:25 narrow for the concern we all have but
1:11:28 they were able to kind of create an
1:11:29 erratic face to it and so that was a an
1:11:32 interesting combination to try and
1:11:35 resolve both issues
1:11:37 so again Concepts we want to share but
1:11:40 again thank you Tim and and Brad and
1:11:42 thank you ad hoc it's it's re I mean
1:11:45 Place making has a way of of
1:11:48 taking the actual space and having it
1:11:52 feel bigger because right now it feels
1:11:54 and it feels narrower than it actually
1:11:59 and to the point of um
1:12:01 adding more natural features to some of
1:12:04 these elements you just mentioned it you
1:12:06 know creating on the and we spoke to the
1:12:09 um within about this is how do we
1:12:11 integrate natural features or color rock
1:12:14 or stone you know into the bottom of the
1:12:17 water features are on the face of a
1:12:20 water feature or how do we get those
1:12:22 erratics in there so even though there
1:12:25 may be some Modern elements we're still
1:12:27 trying to figure out ways to
1:12:29 soften it and bring in those natural
1:12:32 elements I also want to add to the Old
1:12:35 Town design
1:12:36 as we go through our permitting process
1:12:38 or are going to be Old Town design
1:12:40 standards which are already adopted that
1:12:44 we will be having to implement when we
1:12:46 pick out some of our features
1:12:48 um whether it's lighting or whether it's
1:12:53 colors things like that that we will
1:12:55 have to go through through the design
1:12:57 process or through the permitting
1:13:00 process so those have not all been 100
1:13:02 vetted because we are still in early
1:13:05 concept stage but we will be as we
1:13:07 refine the design we will be honing in
1:13:11 on some of those as well
1:13:14 so like how long would it take to make a
1:13:17 like you know renovate something like
1:13:19 this oh
1:13:24 I think David has a comment yeah and
1:13:25 then if you don't mind it I'll hold that
1:13:27 question okay
1:13:30 I agree
1:13:37 the first point I wanted to make is yes
1:13:40 we have Concepts and these are great I
1:13:42 love them both of them they all have
1:13:44 their broken cons but we also have to
1:13:46 think about designing for what this part
1:13:48 will be in 25 years or 50 years we don't
1:13:51 want to go back to the German language
1:13:52 to be like this thing looks dated right
1:13:55 that's the worst thing you can do you
1:13:56 walk into high schools and you see high
1:13:58 schools like Yep this was built in the
1:13:59 70s you know like that kind of thing so
1:14:01 that's one point I'd like to mention
1:14:03 um the second one is I know we
1:14:06 concentrate because I'm looking at The
1:14:08 Pedestrian Park area it's called
1:14:10 pedestrian Park and I noticed in these
1:14:13 designs that we have a wide Avenue
1:14:16 through these things and I kind of want
1:14:18 to get away from the idea that it's a
1:14:19 pedestrian park right so maybe I'm not
1:14:23 saying you should have a zigzag pattern
1:14:25 or anything like that but it seems like
1:14:26 the thoroughfare is really big
1:14:27 concentration here if we really want it
1:14:29 as a gathering space as places where
1:14:32 people meet let's not try to say okay
1:14:34 this is just something to walk right so
1:14:36 against the idea that that's not even
1:14:39 think of it past pedestrian it's another
1:14:40 part and so would you design a Roundup
1:14:43 like this or would you still do it with
1:14:46 a big thorough there right so those are
1:14:48 just my main two points
1:14:51 so balance it's the current its current
1:14:53 thought of just being a pastoring how do
1:14:55 we make it also uh
1:14:57 a place to linger right yeah
1:15:06 any other comments questions or am I
1:15:09 ready to go on to uh next steps
1:15:14 right
1:15:15 let me do a quick share again
1:15:23 whoops sorry uh so as far as next steps
1:15:27 with the project
1:15:29 um this Wednesday we're going to be
1:15:31 giving the senior center an update on
1:15:34 this project likely going through the
1:15:36 same presentation
1:15:38 um so just giving an opportunity to have
1:15:41 some one-on-one conversations
1:15:43 um when we and then on the 6th through
1:15:47 the 19th of this month we will be doing
1:15:49 an online survey
1:15:52 um we're going to be asking about adish
1:15:55 questions uh with an opportunity to
1:15:58 provide some feedback and you'll be
1:15:59 seeing a lot of the same graphics and
1:16:01 those questions
1:16:03 um that you were in this presentation
1:16:04 tonight
1:16:05 um no new surprises there and on the
1:16:09 seventh we are going to be having an
1:16:11 open house where really we can spend a
1:16:14 little more time conversing about all of
1:16:16 these the survey will be live
1:16:20 um instead of having some one-on-one
1:16:21 conversations
1:16:23 um presentation uh we'll have the design
1:16:25 team there Jeff and I will be there too
1:16:27 and hopefully admon committee will be
1:16:29 there as well to help really share
1:16:32 um the process and answer any questions
1:16:35 and really encourage folks to take the
1:16:38 online survey that'll be up for two
1:16:40 weeks but that open house will be held
1:16:42 at the Depot
1:16:44 um from 6 30 to 8 30 P.M
1:16:48 weather pending as well that evening
1:16:50 invite people to walk walk through the
1:16:52 spaces yes right and again sort of the
1:16:55 same idea of scale
1:16:57 start start seeing those spaces a little
1:16:59 bit differently again with this open
1:17:01 house being on the front end of that
1:17:03 survey so you know making sure anyone
1:17:05 who attends that realizes they don't
1:17:07 need to give this that open house isn't
1:17:09 their only time for comment it's really
1:17:11 come learn about it
1:17:13 you know walk it experience it and then
1:17:16 give us feedback on a survey
1:17:19 so these are just our immediate next
1:17:21 steps that are coming up
1:17:23 um I'm gonna actually jump to the
1:17:25 project schedule skip a slide real quick
1:17:27 so uh this is the same schedule that we
1:17:31 had shown back when we had been to
1:17:33 council as you can see we're starting to
1:17:34 check off a few steps through this
1:17:36 process
1:17:39 um right now we are in that design phase
1:17:42 and we're hoping to really try and
1:17:45 take these two concepts get enough
1:17:47 feedback from the community that we can
1:17:49 hone in on one preferred design that we
1:17:52 can then send out to the community and
1:17:54 say hey did we get this right and then
1:17:56 start working on our construction
1:17:58 documents um to get to your question
1:18:00 about timeline and how long does it take
1:18:03 um this is going to be a somewhat
1:18:05 accelerated project because of some of
1:18:07 the funding sources used we are having
1:18:09 to go through some of this process a
1:18:12 little quicker because we have
1:18:14 permitting and construction and this
1:18:16 project we're trying to get complete by
1:18:19 the end of
1:18:20 2024 full fully constructed so we're
1:18:24 hoping to do our be into design and
1:18:27 permitting the spring and summer and go
1:18:32 out to bid later this fall an award
1:18:36 Construction contract and starter
1:18:38 construction hopefully november-ish this
1:18:41 year which is a really kind of
1:18:44 accelerated time frame uh to get through
1:18:46 and give probably a year of construction
1:18:48 yeah one year we would be looking at
1:18:51 completion the end of the end of 2024
1:18:55 yeah beginning of 25. I guess like the
1:18:58 main thing that I was thinking about
1:18:59 when I you know ask them that is because
1:19:02 um most people want to go to the park
1:19:03 around like spring and summer time
1:19:05 because you know it's nice out and you
1:19:08 know it's not as cloudy and rainy as it
1:19:09 usually is
1:19:13 yeah but it's only gonna take a year I
1:19:15 think just closing those parts of the
1:19:17 theme
1:19:18 yeah we would put fencing up to keep the
1:19:21 site secure for folks to you know keep
1:19:24 them safe as well so yeah
1:19:28 oh hi bro
1:19:32 I guess one question regarding the
1:19:35 senior center they're really only
1:19:36 discussion was about the Pavilion which
1:19:38 looks great and I like it but is there
1:19:41 other things that are being suggested in
1:19:43 that that we just haven't seen yet
1:19:48 part of the survey that's going to be
1:19:50 going out we're gonna We want a little
1:19:51 more feedback as far as what types of
1:19:54 elements the seniors want to see out
1:19:57 there for their activity areas and
1:19:59 you're making a great segue to my next
1:20:02 slide go next my intention Jim
1:20:14 one of the visuals showed three ideas of
1:20:18 how we might
1:20:19 activate that park side of the senior
1:20:22 center and add activities so add you
1:20:26 know outdoor multi-generational space
1:20:29 you know Bocce space for cornhole raised
1:20:33 gardens so that that's definitely part
1:20:35 of this part of this project will be
1:20:38 part of the feedback that we want to get
1:20:40 is again how to
1:20:42 part of that relationship with the
1:20:44 senior center is let's let's encourage
1:20:46 outdoor senior activities that are part
1:20:48 of the park but also other activities
1:20:50 that are multi-generational that bring
1:20:52 Park users closer to the the senior
1:20:55 center so that'll be part of the survey
1:20:57 as Jen said
1:21:00 I I also wanted to mention that um when
1:21:03 you're out there looking at the senior
1:21:04 center and imagining these designs if
1:21:07 you see the um the sun what's now a
1:21:09 sunken Courtyard one of the ideas is
1:21:12 that that whole burned area would
1:21:15 actually come down to the same grade as
1:21:17 that door so that you could walk out of
1:21:19 the senior center and that Pavilion
1:21:21 would be right at the same level as the
1:21:24 senior center so that that burn would
1:21:26 basically you know go away would get
1:21:28 depressed and so um that really opens up
1:21:31 that area and connects it more to you
1:21:35 know more usable for the senior center
1:21:36 and Orient into the park
1:21:39 yeah and even on that
1:21:42 um east side of the senior center we'd
1:21:43 be removing the berm over in that area
1:21:46 as well to help really maximize some of
1:21:49 that Gathering space and areas
1:21:52 um as mentioned in my first slide on
1:21:55 funding
1:21:57 um you know we have about 3.2 of
1:21:59 American Rescue plan dollars that
1:22:01 Council authorize for this we do have
1:22:04 submitted we have submitted a
1:22:06 legislative ask uh for seven hundred
1:22:09 thousand dollars for this specific to
1:22:12 the senior center and activity areas so
1:22:15 we're really wanting to make sure that
1:22:17 you know the activities that we propose
1:22:19 over there are really serving the
1:22:22 seniors that um it's meant for
1:22:26 really that connection so
1:22:29 um anyways right now we have about 3.9
1:22:31 million
1:22:33 um for this project and we're working
1:22:35 with that and the budget as we can kind
1:22:38 of go through this process as well
1:22:44 um so
1:22:46 a little quick discussion here for
1:22:49 um the board just want to know if
1:22:51 there's any other additional questions
1:22:54 that you've had on the process to date
1:22:59 and any additional feedback you'd like
1:23:02 to provide on the two concepts uh that
1:23:04 are going to be presented to the
1:23:05 community next week
1:23:17 just unmute you Tim sorry that cornkey
1:23:22 there you go
1:23:23 I'm glad my wife doesn't have that kind
1:23:26 of control
1:23:30 um so my the thing that I was thinking
1:23:33 that in my mind I was trying to do and
1:23:34 it might be a good thing to do as you go
1:23:36 forward at some point is with the two
1:23:38 different designs put sort of like the
1:23:41 overall the high level views of them
1:23:43 side by side to each other so because
1:23:46 when I was looking at one I kept trying
1:23:47 to think what the other one looked like
1:23:50 um and just a suggestion at some point
1:23:53 that might be a useful way to present it
1:23:55 so people can really kind of compare and
1:23:57 contrast
1:23:58 that's all thank you when we do the
1:24:01 survey we will be um stacking some of
1:24:03 the images so they're easily uh compared
1:24:11 good suggestion
1:24:14 and then Friday see your fam is also up
1:24:19 uh thanks you know I like both of the
1:24:22 Valley Trail and the Creekside table I
1:24:24 guess I'd like to throw out a suggestion
1:24:26 that you could potentially merge them
1:24:28 together in some fashion I mean I think
1:24:30 that there's
1:24:32 good Pros to both Concepts and to just
1:24:36 say that it's one or the other it
1:24:38 doesn't maybe have to be that it could
1:24:40 maybe be a merging of the two
1:24:45 thanks and so we go through yeah we
1:24:48 still have ample flexibility for that
1:24:50 very thing yeah yeah to really let the
1:24:52 let the community feedback really help
1:24:55 inform what resonates with either
1:24:58 neither both
1:24:59 Etc along those lines I was thinking
1:25:02 about some of the community public
1:25:05 comments from a couple weeks ago I can't
1:25:06 remember exactly what the topic was but
1:25:08 this idea of survey and it sounds like
1:25:11 there's going to be a survey and going
1:25:12 out and curious if we might get a chance
1:25:17 speak into that or review it or provide
1:25:20 feedback on what what's going to be in
1:25:23 the survey and what we hope to to get
1:25:25 out of it
1:25:27 it sounds like there's been some
1:25:29 some controversy around surveys in the
1:25:32 past and if there's anything we can
1:25:33 learn there about crafting this morning
1:25:36 yeah the difference of opinions has
1:25:39 always exists yeah no no it's all good
1:25:42 it's all good
1:25:44 um yeah Our Hope in terms of getting
1:25:46 that survey out here right at the you
1:25:49 know in the next week or two
1:25:51 um as Jen said that you know the quest
1:25:54 we could certainly run the questions by
1:25:56 the ad hoc group and and get a quick
1:25:59 thumbnail on on
1:26:02 on how the questions are framed I think
1:26:05 what you'll hear is similar to our disc
1:26:07 really trying to
1:26:09 reflect the same discussion we had with
1:26:11 the ad hoc group right and sort of
1:26:13 starting that question what what
1:26:14 elements what themes of Issaquah do are
1:26:17 most important to you and then really
1:26:20 introducing these two concepts these two
1:26:22 refinements and really going through a
1:26:24 series of questions on what what
1:26:26 elements do you like in each one what
1:26:29 elements don't you like in each one
1:26:32 questions about the both you know the
1:26:34 water element uh the nature elements
1:26:38 um but play you know elements of of
1:26:40 recreational use around the senior
1:26:42 center
1:26:44 um so really a series of questions that
1:26:46 are are trying to do that thing not not
1:26:50 have this be a forced choice where you
1:26:52 have to pick all of this one or all of
1:26:54 that one but really drawing upon those
1:26:56 elements so why don't we I mean we could
1:26:58 certainly share that with the ad hoc
1:27:00 group and and get your thoughts
1:27:03 um on that and again you know just
1:27:06 looking at the the timeline ideally we
1:27:09 have the survey out ready to go I think
1:27:14 we were shooting for the sixth so the
1:27:15 day the day before the open house
1:27:18 and then open house on the seventh and
1:27:21 then having that survey remain open for
1:27:24 another nearly two weeks for folks to
1:27:27 respond
1:27:28 the one thing about the survey
1:27:31 um we worked with the design team to
1:27:32 kind of figure out what questions they
1:27:35 needed in order to move the design
1:27:37 forward but leaving it loose like we're
1:27:40 not getting into the nitty-gritties of
1:27:42 each element uh really asking for
1:27:45 opportunity for people to say then what
1:27:47 of this description or of this concept
1:27:49 do you really like in asking them to
1:27:51 provide that open response in some of
1:27:54 these questions as well because we're
1:27:57 also having to get this out for
1:27:59 translation in order to get it up on our
1:28:02 thing so we're really kind of wish for a
1:28:04 time but happy to send it out
1:28:07 um like I said Jeff really kind of
1:28:09 nailed the set of questions
1:28:12 um that are going to be out there but
1:28:13 I'll send it out to you first sounds
1:28:15 like it's good it's going in a good
1:28:17 direction anyway I was thinking maybe
1:28:19 one Concept in line of these Community
1:28:22 comments too like there's just anything
1:28:24 that we might be missing
1:28:26 um you know stuff that
1:28:28 said these people might bring to the
1:28:31 table that oh yeah that'd be a really
1:28:32 good consideration or something yeah so
1:28:36 there there are there will be and you'll
1:28:38 see opportunities for that other
1:28:40 right sort of what is missing yeah yep
1:28:43 great yeah the last question number nine
1:28:46 just really does what else do you want
1:28:49 to provide uh what other your other
1:28:51 thoughts
1:28:52 Marlene or so you're yeah I always say
1:28:55 this when we talk about surveys I'm just
1:28:57 in the blood record and say it again I
1:28:59 just wanted to make sure when we look at
1:29:00 the demographics of who took our survey
1:29:03 that we
1:29:04 see what type of statistical
1:29:06 significance we have across different
1:29:07 demographics I think it's hypothesis I
1:29:10 have that there's a lot of certain
1:29:12 groups that take these surveys and maybe
1:29:14 it'll put some younger folks who do not
1:29:15 take these surveys as often
1:29:17 um the other thing I might throw up
1:29:18 there is I know times of the essence but
1:29:21 would we um potentially think about
1:29:23 asking
1:29:24 um you know a member of the equity
1:29:25 committee to take a look at these
1:29:27 designs or be a little bit more involved
1:29:28 when you come to the open house or
1:29:31 um I was really I think in that last
1:29:32 meeting it was um I really appreciated
1:29:34 at the best point of view and so I
1:29:36 thought that might just be another
1:29:38 um group that we might want to reach out
1:29:40 to yeah no great points absolutely so as
1:29:42 as we've just this last week finalized
1:29:45 the use of the depot that night on this
1:29:47 and we will be inviting boards and
1:29:49 commission other boards and commission
1:29:51 members to be part of that open house
1:29:52 and absolutely
1:29:55 um and I've got Brenda have the question
1:29:57 I'm just gonna unmute you Brenda oh
1:29:59 sorry
1:30:02 oh there I am okay uh I'm sure I've just
1:30:06 missed it but I I want to clarify once
1:30:08 we get to the end of The Pedestrian Park
1:30:10 in my mind we get to a parking lot and
1:30:14 an area with a lot of dumpsters and it's
1:30:16 not at all appealing and it doesn't and
1:30:19 I just don't know how you're working
1:30:20 your way through there
1:30:22 yeah that's a great question
1:30:25 um really good point I think in the long
1:30:27 term what we've discussed in future
1:30:29 phases is a raised crosswalk and
1:30:33 um something where the paving is
1:30:35 continuous and takes you all the way
1:30:36 through Depot Park to the senior center
1:30:39 I think in this phase
1:30:42 um we're looking at different ways of
1:30:44 screening that loading area that might
1:30:47 include fences it might include a more
1:30:50 dense planting area and some seating so
1:30:53 we've also looking at seating with um
1:30:56 you know with backs that might you know
1:30:58 Orient people away from those areas in
1:31:01 terms of the view
1:31:02 um but uh that's I think that is one of
1:31:05 the design uh challenges that we're
1:31:08 going to want to make sure we're
1:31:09 addressing so thanks for bringing that
1:31:11 up right and I'm thrilled with the uh
1:31:14 crosswalker or having something to go
1:31:17 over the parking lot but for now or
1:31:20 before we get it
1:31:21 what is the you know you get them to the
1:31:24 end of this and they have their baby
1:31:26 carriages and children and dogs in hand
1:31:28 are they to walk across the street and
1:31:31 how are they to get to the depot
1:31:35 I think there are curb ranks there now
1:31:37 so you can
1:31:40 um you can wheel your stroller and you
1:31:43 know there's accessibility through there
1:31:46 um it's it's uh uh I think that's a good
1:31:49 a good you know way wayfinding aspect
1:31:53 too just to keep in mind you know so
1:31:55 people are comfortable Crossing there
1:31:58 but it is accessible
1:32:00 yeah and I just wanted to add we are
1:32:02 studying still
1:32:04 um the possibility of if if in this
1:32:08 phase it's not possible to do a raised a
1:32:10 tabletop crosswalk at least doing some
1:32:12 type of streets painting or some other
1:32:15 type of treatment that's really going to
1:32:17 enhance that Crossing so it's very clear
1:32:19 to folks driving through the parking
1:32:20 area that this is an important Crossing
1:32:22 and so that it's important it's clear to
1:32:25 folks Crossing where is the appropriate
1:32:27 place to cross
1:32:29 yeah it's a really great question and
1:32:31 point Brenda and I think really
1:32:32 emphasizes
1:32:34 anytime you're facing Park improvements
1:32:37 right phase one you you need to do it in
1:32:40 a way that it's going to live
1:32:41 successfully on its own but it's also
1:32:44 setting the table haha Creekside table
1:32:46 what um race table any kind of table
1:32:50 um for future phases so you know to some
1:32:53 of the questions I heard earlier we're
1:32:54 not planning on removing existing
1:32:57 parking right now
1:32:59 um we are
1:33:01 um I think we need to recognize that's
1:33:03 not a street we're not having to cross a
1:33:06 street that is that is a that's not
1:33:08 public right-of-way that's just that's a
1:33:10 parking lot so how we manage
1:33:14 um getting people through safely uh that
1:33:17 parking area I think to your point
1:33:19 Brenda about you know so much of this
1:33:21 space feels like the back of house of
1:33:24 restaurants
1:33:26 um I think it's interesting and it's
1:33:28 been positive and that is Jennifer and I
1:33:30 have met with the two restaurants
1:33:31 adjacent to pedestrian Park uh both are
1:33:35 really excited about this and both
1:33:38 immediately in the first conversation
1:33:40 we're like oh my gosh I I want my
1:33:42 restaurant to relate to that this
1:33:44 doesn't feel like this doesn't feel like
1:33:46 the side yard anymore I I need to clean
1:33:48 up my ACT I I mean so you're going to
1:33:51 have the adjacent restaurants wanting to
1:33:53 I think treat that have a relationship
1:33:56 to this public space and in a in a much
1:33:59 different way in a much more positive
1:34:00 way so
1:34:04 a couple couple comments there
1:34:08 sorry we have around 30 minutes over
1:34:14 because now we've got an upcoming open
1:34:17 house survey and uh thank you all
1:34:20 especially the attic for your time and
1:34:23 diligence and input through this whole
1:34:25 process it has been great working with
1:34:34 Zach we have a member from the public
1:34:37 Dave Wagner has his hand up would you be
1:34:40 open to a quick comment from the public
1:34:42 that's a question a question from the
1:34:44 public sure yes that's fine
1:34:49 thank you yeah yeah that'd be great if
1:34:53 you don't mind that being awesome thank
1:34:55 you so much this goes back to one of the
1:34:58 slides please forgive me
1:35:01 so that one box said relocate Memorial
1:35:06 and white pool so the question all of us
1:35:09 would have is
1:35:11 who's making that decision to relocate
1:35:14 that Memorial
1:35:15 is it the pork board that would then
1:35:18 relocated
1:35:20 get that the design says it is it the
1:35:23 city council that says relocate that
1:35:27 um and if it's done where does it get
1:35:30 relocated who has the call on that
1:35:34 relocation
1:35:35 hopefully you'll figure that in your
1:35:38 timing until thank you well thank you if
1:35:41 I I can respond to that and I think give
1:35:43 some context and and Deb thank you for
1:35:45 mentioning what you did in the concept
1:35:52 um rendering that made that note was a
1:35:57 really quick sketch that was done last
1:36:01 um in before any of this sort of
1:36:03 planning and thought process so
1:36:07 um as we're working on these Concepts
1:36:12 we're not we're not we're not under
1:36:14 these
1:36:16 we're on the under the assumption of it
1:36:18 how does that Memorial flagpole become a
1:36:21 really key element to this public space
1:36:24 um to your question if if it was
1:36:27 determined to be moved
1:36:31 I guess that would start with a
1:36:33 collective conversation a collective
1:36:35 decision as part of the design process
1:36:38 um you have my commitment to make sure
1:36:41 VFW is part of those conversations as
1:36:44 we're now heading into the public
1:36:45 discussion about these two off these two
1:36:48 options and and the feedback we get back
1:36:51 from that
1:36:53 um ultimately like any Capital project a
1:36:57 design gets done
1:36:59 that design
1:37:00 the only way that that project gets
1:37:04 awarded is it goes back to city council
1:37:06 to award it to construct right so
1:37:09 there's mult I guess multiple decision
1:37:11 points in any single element of a of a
1:37:15 park design like this much like a a a
1:37:18 decision of
1:37:20 keeping a memorial day or not but again
1:37:23 to emphasize super early conceptual that
1:37:28 again was probably really premature in
1:37:31 making that point in the fall when we
1:37:34 were talking with Council but now as
1:37:36 we're into design options
1:37:38 um I think all of those design options
1:37:40 that you saw tonight that we've talked
1:37:42 about
1:37:44 have the ability to keep to have the
1:37:46 memorial and the flagpole stay right
1:37:48 where it is
1:37:51 just to add I think if anything we also
1:37:55 it to be more engaging than it is write
1:37:57 it down and the ability to get closer
1:37:59 read it better and give it a little more
1:38:02 honor than the space
1:38:05 so as that you know those are some of
1:38:09 the considerations we're also looking at
1:38:12 it's a proven yeah just so you know that
1:38:15 if you want to know how where any of
1:38:19 those people died I'm more than happy to
1:38:21 give you that information
1:38:23 I appreciate that David
1:38:25 well it's good today it sounds like it
1:38:28 was moved in the early 90s to its
1:38:30 current location
1:38:31 yeah okay
1:38:33 I'll play now thank you
1:38:37 faster bedtime so would it be okay if we
1:38:41 left the mid-year the next part of the
1:38:43 year please
1:38:44 thank you so much for coming today
1:38:51 thank you
1:39:10 thank you
1:39:14 foreign
1:39:24 with that Devin Amelia I think you guys
1:39:27 can exit too
1:39:30 so thank you very much it's been such a
1:39:32 pleasure
1:39:34 we're really looking forward to having
1:39:35 more conversations
1:39:49 I'm gonna go back
1:39:54 so Zach I think I think the next item up
1:39:57 is the the six years
1:40:01 process do I have that right yes yes the
1:40:04 six years CIP criteria follow-up
1:40:09 I'm not sure like what the current time
1:40:11 constraints um so I suppose
1:40:14 um should we see gauge interest on uh
1:40:18 continuing past the time or moving it to
1:40:21 the next meeting
1:40:23 yeah it's a great question Zach I guess
1:40:25 I would suggest this I you know thank
1:40:27 you to those of you at six Park board
1:40:29 members attend the special meeting uh
1:40:32 last week no two weeks ago time flies on
1:40:36 the on the 16th
1:40:38 um the intention of that was really a a
1:40:41 very early touch in a six-year Capital
1:40:43 Improvement plan the six-year CIP
1:40:45 process
1:40:47 really looking at and focusing on how
1:40:51 how staff goes about evaluating capital
1:40:54 projects and the the
1:40:57 criteria with which all capital projects
1:41:00 will be screened
1:41:03 minutes from that will be released soon
1:41:08 perhaps we wait until March to have a
1:41:11 conversation about what uh it's it's
1:41:14 clear the proposed draft concepts are
1:41:16 going or criteria sorry I got to get
1:41:19 back into this topic the criteria are
1:41:21 going to be amended based upon the
1:41:22 feedback from the four boards and
1:41:24 commissions that night I think by our
1:41:26 March meeting we'll have sort of that
1:41:28 the draft changes to that criteria we
1:41:31 can bring that and we'll also I think be
1:41:33 able to bring a little more Focus as to
1:41:37 what the actual cfp process will look
1:41:39 like at that March meeting
1:41:44 okay uh seems like
1:41:47 um perhaps the best course of action
1:41:48 would be to hold off on that uh update
1:41:51 until the March meeting
1:41:53 let's do it yeah okay
1:41:56 all right
1:41:59 um so I guess we'll move on to the
1:42:01 reports
1:42:05 so we'll start with uh with my
1:42:09 chairperson report so I have three
1:42:12 things
1:42:14 all right uh so uh Washington
1:42:16 conservation crew uh are in Issaquah for
1:42:19 a seven-week partnership with the city
1:42:21 uh in the first week uh planted 963
1:42:25 native trees 244 native plants and
1:42:28 removed uh 7 200 square feet of invasive
1:42:31 plants from five different Parks
1:42:35 also there is a a green Issaquah
1:42:37 restoration work party at uh burnson
1:42:41 park that's on March 18th at uh from
1:42:45 nine to noon
1:42:46 and um on the city newsletter there's a
1:42:51 Soil and Water stewardship program
1:42:53 opportunity this includes a nine month
1:42:56 training in sustainable food production
1:42:59 and environmental stewardship uh
1:43:02 applications are due by March 3rd and
1:43:05 that's on the Tilt website so if
1:43:07 anyone's interested in that there's I
1:43:09 know they'll be having some a hybrid of
1:43:12 in-person and
1:43:15 um in on specific locations as well so
1:43:20 if you're interested that's available to
1:43:22 sign up for as well
1:43:23 um so moving on to the uh youth Advisory
1:43:29 Board update
1:43:36 event called Civic engagement I don't
1:43:39 know if the previous two reps who came
1:43:41 talked about this or not but they we did
1:43:44 not attend the event but we heard that
1:43:45 it went really well they had speakers
1:43:47 coming from all over
1:43:50 um you know come talk about how ways uh
1:43:52 people who are not in the youth Advisory
1:43:54 board can come you know still engage in
1:43:56 you know Community related things and
1:43:59 events as such
1:44:01 honest and that's it for civic
1:44:03 engagement
1:44:04 um and we actually have an upcoming
1:44:06 event I think it's next Friday
1:44:09 um it's Harry Potter night and we've
1:44:11 talked about it before we just had like
1:44:14 a bunch of like Harry Potter related
1:44:15 stations for kids first to fifth grade
1:44:19 just like a couple hours with us in the
1:44:21 community center
1:44:23 uh yeah it's like arts and crafts like
1:44:26 me and stuff like that
1:44:34 a variant uh next there's another event
1:44:38 which is being called state of mind and
1:44:41 even though we're not part of you know
1:44:43 that you know division that works on
1:44:45 state of mind
1:44:47 um basically what happens is that they
1:44:49 have speakers come in they talk about
1:44:51 important issues like uh Teen Mental
1:44:54 Health and mindfulness and it's really
1:44:57 just a big giant um
1:45:01 and I wouldn't want to say a lecture but
1:45:03 more of like an informational talk where
1:45:06 you know where people can learn about
1:45:08 those things
1:45:09 and then our last and biggest event of
1:45:11 the year is that it's a kids triathlon
1:45:14 it's um June 4th I believe and I mean
1:45:17 it's just a triathlon
1:45:20 all throughout
1:45:22 um and around the support Community
1:45:24 Center so when you start to like work on
1:45:26 that divide into teams and yeah
1:45:30 and then I would like to add is that
1:45:32 we're also looking for some speakers
1:45:34 uh I as like a sort of side thing I
1:45:38 started bringing the speakers from you
1:45:41 know uh outside uh you know just around
1:45:44 the Issaquah community and you know just
1:45:47 from youth boards from not youth boards
1:45:49 from uh commissions and things to come
1:45:51 speak to uh the board about okay what
1:45:54 what do they do how do you help Issaquah
1:45:57 and how you're connecting with the
1:45:58 community if the park board is
1:46:00 interesting interested in having one of
1:46:03 the board members come talk at one of
1:46:05 the meetings then
1:46:07 yeah just just let us know
1:46:10 and that's it that's
1:46:13 great thank you
1:46:18 thanks and uh Jeff
1:46:20 great thanks Zach um to add to the to
1:46:24 two of the upcoming events uh that that
1:46:27 um the youth board is helping host with
1:46:29 the recreation team the state of mind
1:46:31 conference is really impactful
1:46:34 um if I'm not mistaken that's
1:46:36 um invitation for both students and
1:46:39 parents and really the entire Community
1:46:41 is is invited to attend this event it's
1:46:45 something that's been done for a number
1:46:46 of years typically really well attended
1:46:49 and I think as we all know coming out of
1:46:52 a global pandemic
1:46:55 mental health amongst our teens is a
1:46:58 really really important timely topic I
1:47:01 do remember last year they did Host this
1:47:03 online and even though it wasn't you
1:47:05 know like in person and you know you
1:47:07 weren't talking with that person like
1:47:09 face to face I went and I did go online
1:47:11 it was they had some very nice things to
1:47:14 say you know
1:47:41 foreign
1:48:49 foreign
1:49:11 [Music]
1:49:20 [Music]
1:49:28 so State of Mind is uh important for
1:49:31 people and laptops um no so thank you
1:49:34 for for just the importance of that of
1:49:38 um conference and then the the uh is
1:49:41 Triathlon has really turned into quite
1:49:43 an event
1:49:44 um hundreds hundreds of participants so
1:49:47 a really fun day
1:49:49 um I'll make sure as Park board members
1:49:51 um just send you a reminder and if
1:49:53 you've got if you want to spend an hour
1:49:54 on a Saturday morning getting inspired
1:49:57 um come come check out the community
1:49:59 center that morning
1:50:01 as for my report a couple of couple of
1:50:04 quick updates
1:50:06 now that we've got a little battery life
1:50:07 left in the laptop
1:50:09 um Jen mentioned this earlier so the
1:50:12 other community investment project at
1:50:13 Confluence Park the eckhouse that work
1:50:16 has been
1:50:17 um get being done in Earnest as well
1:50:20 um more in terms of continued site
1:50:22 analysis and structural analysis of the
1:50:26 building we should be at a point with
1:50:28 the consultant team or we're really much
1:50:30 better informed as to the state and
1:50:32 condition of the current house and
1:50:34 understand options that we have before
1:50:36 us I think I mentioned earlier in one of
1:50:40 our meetings we've already engaged the
1:50:42 King County historic preservation group
1:50:46 they're circled into this desire and
1:50:49 interest we have and how do we
1:50:51 how do we activate that that building
1:50:55 and that space and also take opportunity
1:50:58 to celebrate its history and weave
1:51:01 history into a a workable functionable
1:51:04 or functional amenity within the Park so
1:51:07 plan on that being a March Topic at our
1:51:11 at our next Park board meeting
1:51:13 you'll you'll note
1:51:16 as this agenda as well as all future
1:51:19 agendas under the park director report
1:51:22 you're going to notice an attachment
1:51:23 there when you get the agenda that is as
1:51:26 I mentioned earlier just the working
1:51:27 calendar that we are sort of weaving
1:51:31 into our work plan that will be a
1:51:35 calendar you'll see that will evolve
1:51:37 throughout the year as we get a tighter
1:51:40 idea of when and where projects are in
1:51:44 certain points for key conversations
1:51:48 um at our at our future Park board
1:51:50 meetings
1:51:52 uh another quick update a couple months
1:51:55 back Amy Dukes joined us
1:51:58 um the work that the art commission is
1:52:00 doing on the northwest troll hunt
1:52:02 um if you remember International artist
1:52:04 Thomas dambo has identified uh the
1:52:08 Seattle area as having a number of
1:52:10 trolls throughout the Puget Sound region
1:52:13 Issaquah remains of a high interest to
1:52:16 Thomas I think I mentioned to to you all
1:52:19 we'd reached out to the Snoqualmie tribe
1:52:22 to gauge their interest in this work
1:52:25 um I'm happy to say last month we had an
1:52:28 initial meeting with with all those
1:52:29 groups Thomas dambo came earlier in
1:52:33 February to visit a number of sites
1:52:35 including Issaquah we hosted Thomas some
1:52:38 members some artists from the Snoqualmie
1:52:40 tribe joined in that brainstorming
1:52:42 session a really really good discussion
1:52:45 about where the location of Patrol would
1:52:48 be here in Issaquah and what some of the
1:52:50 artistic elements would look like
1:52:53 um Thomas is is back in his home country
1:52:57 now but we look forward to in the coming
1:52:59 weeks getting a little better sense of
1:53:01 some Concepts as they're again working
1:53:04 that through at the art commission but
1:53:05 as that's probably going to be located
1:53:07 in one of our public parks I'll be sure
1:53:10 to keep you all as Park Board informed
1:53:13 in that really exciting exciting work
1:53:17 um a lot of support a lot of interest
1:53:19 from a lot of different
1:53:20 um Community groups as well as uh the
1:53:24 the tribe and and um
1:53:26 and just what that what that piece could
1:53:28 look like this summer
1:53:32 another quick update uh one of our staff
1:53:37 hires this year is an urban Forest
1:53:39 supervisor
1:53:40 I'm happy to report that we have an
1:53:45 offer and an acceptance from a candidate
1:53:47 I'm not ready to announce the name yet
1:53:50 but we are really really excited and
1:53:52 should have that Urban Forest supervisor
1:53:55 on board here towards the end of March I
1:53:59 think March 20th right now is the the
1:54:01 start date so hopefully in our March
1:54:03 meeting we'll have a staff introduction
1:54:06 and I know the park operations team our
1:54:09 Park maintenance team is really excited
1:54:11 about
1:54:12 adding that element and that skill set
1:54:14 to our uh to our department team so I'm
1:54:19 really excited as you know on our work
1:54:22 plan is not only really initiating the
1:54:27 city's first urban Forest management
1:54:29 plan uh the supervisor will help lead
1:54:31 that effort but also taking that
1:54:34 long-awaited needed review and look at
1:54:37 our heritage Street program so thank you
1:54:40 I know a number of you at our last
1:54:41 meeting a volunteered to serve on an ad
1:54:44 hoc group for urban forestry so as that
1:54:47 position comes on board that group will
1:54:49 probably be ready to get started here in
1:54:52 April or May with uh a series of some
1:54:55 meetings more to come there
1:54:58 lastly exciting news I know you all love
1:55:02 to meet so much we have we do have
1:55:05 another special meeting opportunity in
1:55:07 March the environmental board would like
1:55:10 to have a joint meeting with the park
1:55:14 board the primary purpose for this is
1:55:17 the King County Flood Control District
1:55:19 and if you're familiar with King County
1:55:21 part of
1:55:23 Willard Water Resource Land Management
1:55:26 Department
1:55:29 has a floodplain management group
1:55:32 they've been doing some research and
1:55:34 Analysis on Issaquah Creek that they
1:55:36 want to come and provide a little bit
1:55:39 more of a detailed report to and so
1:55:41 March 16th Thursday March 16th
1:55:45 a joint meeting has been confirmed I
1:55:48 hope most or all of you are able to
1:55:51 attend that meeting will probably be a
1:55:53 mix of in person and virtual
1:55:56 options so hasanti thank you I know
1:56:00 you'll be sending out a whole date has
1:56:02 already been sent out but we got
1:56:03 confirmation that that meeting is is
1:56:05 really real also be a chance I know the
1:56:08 environmental board's interested in
1:56:09 getting some updates on a couple of our
1:56:11 Park projects uh that I think I'll I'll
1:56:13 be providing uh an update on that night
1:56:15 as well so
1:56:19 mark your calendars
1:56:21 and that's it for me
1:56:29 there's an open house again not all of
1:56:31 you are that's not that won't be an
1:56:33 official Park board meeting but as Park
1:56:35 board members certainly would love to
1:56:37 have you
1:56:38 um have you be there is there any
1:56:40 considerations there in terms of uh
1:56:43 the critical mass
1:56:46 good good question
1:56:48 um yeah we probably don't want everybody
1:56:50 to go
1:56:52 um if if that's not to say if if
1:56:57 more than five of you are there just
1:56:59 don't
1:57:01 don't go around together you're there as
1:57:03 you're there as residents right
1:57:07 it's not an it's not an official meeting
1:57:11 um and we will not be doing any official
1:57:14 artboard business that night yeah it's
1:57:17 discussion only yeah is that anything
1:57:19 question about the trolls yes
1:57:23 at your convenience probably not tonight
1:57:27 because we're out of time would you be
1:57:29 willing to provide us with a little bit
1:57:31 of um
1:57:32 I guess guidance and perspective on this
1:57:35 so it sounds like it's a really cool
1:57:39 part of it is some mystery or maybe
1:57:44 absence of mapping or you know like how
1:57:47 much should we how much is to be
1:57:50 revealed and how much more spoilers the
1:57:52 fun and the Mystery of it you know like
1:57:54 there's a troll somewhere in his spot
1:57:56 but doesn't have to be matched or we
1:58:00 know exactly where it is yeah great
1:58:02 great point I think as we learn more
1:58:05 from the Artist as to what this hunt
1:58:07 will look like I I do think
1:58:11 um as it gets more and I don't think
1:58:14 it'll be necessarily A
1:58:16 oh my gosh
1:58:18 um we need to keep it you know a secret
1:58:22 um oh yeah yeah I think I think it's
1:58:26 known right you know that that we are
1:58:28 looking at and trying to identify the
1:58:31 right place
1:58:33 I think the artist will just the
1:58:36 location itself is again not meant to be
1:58:39 shrouded in history but I think spending
1:58:42 time with the artists that a couple
1:58:43 weeks ago I think it's more about the
1:58:45 The Whimsy of even though it's going to
1:58:48 be known where it is
1:58:51 how can it entail some sort of uh
1:58:53 connect a walk into nature to get to it
1:58:57 it's not it's not something desire to be
1:59:01 experienced from your car
1:59:02 right
1:59:05 the trouble could be anywhere from it
1:59:09 varies based on the location and what
1:59:12 he's inspired by in the story that
1:59:14 generally fairly large 10 to 40 feet
1:59:25 I mean big 20-foot December instructions
1:59:30 right yeah
1:59:33 thank you for that Chris
1:59:41 so that's it for me thanks Zach great
1:59:43 thanks Jeff uh any other announcements
1:59:48 all right well uh next meeting will be
1:59:51 March 27th uh so everybody have a great
1:59:54 evening
1:59:56 thank you big thanks to this too
1:59:59 I.T expert and troubled and
2:00:02 troubleshooter yeah
2:00:07 good night all
2:00:10 right
2:00:15 yes it was very cool Under Pressure yeah
2:00:17 that was like you know