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Monday, February 27, 2023

7:00 PM · 2h 0m
Topic tracked across meetings:
Public Art Update: Pedestrian Park, Senior Center Plazas, (D,I) AB 8695 1/6
Section
Topic
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of January 23, 2023
packet pp.3–4
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 01-23-23 Park Board Minutes Page 1 CITY OF ISSAQUAH Park Board 7:00 PM Tibbetts Creek Manor, 750 17th January 23, 2023 MINUTES Ave. NW, Issaquah
4. REGULAR BUSINESS
4a
Community Investment Strategy Project Update, re: Pedestrian Park and Senior Center Plaza, (I,D)
60 min · Jennifer Fink, Park Planner and Project Administrator Jeff Watling, Director Mithun Consultant Team · packet pp.5–75
Topics: TransportationParks
Staff report:
Community Investment Strategy Project Update - Pedestrian Park & Senior Center Plaza 2/27/23 | PARK BOARD MEETING
4b
6 Year CIP Criteria Follow Up
Discussion · 20 min · Jeff Watling, Director
Topics: Budget
5. REPORTS
5a
Chairperson's Report
5b
Youth Advisory Representative's Report
packet pp.77
Staff report:
Ongoing Calendar – tentative and a working document Month Agenda Items Month Agenda Items January 23 • Title 18 Draft July 24 • TOUR and/or Board • Recreation Update meeting at a park? • 2023 Work Plan – Ad Hoc • Veterans Park or groups? Confluence Park/Ek
5c
Director's Report
0:00 all right uh well welcome to the
0:03 February 27th 2023 meeting I apologize I
0:08 can't be there in person today still
0:10 some lingering cold symptoms so I
0:13 thought it would be best to stay home uh
0:15 but I'll start off with uh taking roll
0:18 call apologies I can't see the room too
0:23 well from from this perspective so
0:26 um when I call your name please uh State
0:28 your presence or take yourself off mute
0:33 so Marlene
0:35 present
0:36 Chris
0:37 present
0:39 Andrew e
0:42 H David
0:45 Nicholas
0:49 Brenda
0:52 present Katie
0:57 all right Tim
1:04 I think I saw Tim on there earlier
1:08 oh we got one more okay and uh Danielle
1:16 Brad
1:17 uh present Andrew M
1:21 present
1:23 you're falling right
1:27 great
1:29 um so moving on to the approval of
1:32 minutes from January the 23rd 2023
1:36 meeting uh did any everyone get a chance
1:38 to look at the meeting minutes
1:42 any uh questions comments Corrections
1:48 all right any objections
1:52 all right so I hereby approve the
1:55 minutes from the January 23rd 2023
1:58 meeting
2:00 um so uh today we have two main agenda
2:03 items the community investment strategy
2:05 the project update for The Pedestrian
2:07 Park and Senior Center Plaza and the
2:10 six-year CIP criteria follow-up are
2:14 there any public comments at this time
2:18 yes I believe so
2:20 all right
2:23 so for uh public comment
2:27 um when recognized just uh unmute your
2:30 microphone or step up to the lectern
2:34 um and state your name and your
2:36 relationship to the city uh be sure to
2:39 speak clearly and pause frequently and
2:41 try to limit your comments to five
2:43 minutes
2:45 thank you my name is Jacob Wagoner I
2:47 live in 360 Northwest Dogwood Street
2:50 uh it is I've been a resident and uh
2:55 around Issaquah since 1945. so I've been
2:59 here a while
3:01 um I'm familiar with this whole process
3:03 I sit on
3:04 one board now Transportation Advisory
3:07 Board and I shared the cemetery board
3:10 for eight years and I was on it for 12.
3:13 so I know about what to expect in this
3:16 room
3:18 um you'll see
3:20 to my right the
3:22 interest the upcoming post actually I
3:26 think there's more people here tonight
3:27 than there is like a normal meeting
3:30 um but we're very concerned about a
3:34 couple of things that's going to take
3:36 place
3:36 so on slide four of the slides
3:41 you'd have a
3:44 box
3:46 with an arrow pointing to the morning
3:49 and one thing I'm quite concerned about
3:52 is there is a lot of history with the
3:55 monument that we have in the uh City
3:58 Visa club that history dates all the way
4:00 back to 1947.
4:02 when our World War II members came home
4:05 and actually purchased that monument and
4:09 gave it to the city
4:10 it's set on a sunset way about where the
4:14 evil is now where Lord he knows where
4:16 City Hall
4:17 sat there for several years and then in
4:20 1992 it got moved because of the new
4:24 city hall and the new library
4:26 and it was moved to its present location
4:30 I actually have the documents
4:33 the receipts or that when it was
4:36 delivered
4:37 there's 19 names on that Monument
4:42 four of those names are from Vietnam so
4:45 on the monument first showed up in
4:47 Issaquah it did not have four names
4:52 those are for Vietnam all the rest of
4:55 the names were on the monument carved
4:57 and they're all for people who lost
5:00 their lives that were from Issaquah area
5:03 the first two were from World War One
5:05 the Erickson family lost their son
5:09 and the other
5:11 um 15
5:13 sorry the other
5:15 13 are from World War II
5:18 and then the last four are from Vietnam
5:23 that is an extremely important
5:27 Monument for US veterans in this city
5:30 because it goes back not only for the
5:33 history of the monument but all of those
5:35 veterans who were Kia killed in action
5:38 in those Wars
5:40 they came from a panelists here in
5:42 Issaquah and I can honestly sit here and
5:45 tell you I know at least four of those
5:48 families
5:50 so to move that document to move that
5:54 Monument would be
5:56 um not a good thing
5:58 it was placed there
6:02 so it would have a predominant place in
6:04 the City of Issaquah where people could
6:07 see it as they came and went from the
6:09 library they could see it when they came
6:13 to City Hall they could have seen it
6:15 when they parked they could see it in
6:17 our park in 2005 I was part of the
6:22 VFW when we asked the city to rename
6:27 Memorial Field to Veterans Memorial
6:30 faith and that was taken right away and
6:34 they passed that with no hesitation
6:36 whatsoever
6:40 on that slide four there's a little box
6:43 and it says
6:46 relocate monument and flagpole
6:50 I can tell you that felt like ripping
6:53 the Band-Aid right off the wound
6:55 and it's not anything we want to see
6:58 happen at all
6:59 the second slide
7:02 that I want to talk about is slide
7:04 number five
7:05 it said
7:06 coordinate with various individuals
7:09 groups whatever
7:11 no coordination has been made to the
7:14 veterans or with the veterans on this
7:18 significant project
7:20 we're playing catch-up here I think
7:23 because we're getting this at a later
7:25 date I know no no nothing's in concrete
7:29 nothing's done
7:31 but I wanted you to know
7:34 all how
7:36 important this is to our via ventral
7:39 community on our VFW community and
7:42 that's where we're here so um
7:46 coordination ongoing
7:49 really needs to be made with our good
7:51 for the community we're pretty easy to
7:53 reach he knows who we are I think
7:55 Jennifer does too so we're reaching out
7:58 asking you please keep us as part of
8:01 this uh ongoing effort
8:06 we just hope that we're not too late we
8:10 want to make sure that that's taken care
8:12 of and one last thing
8:15 2006 there's an old mailbox painted red
8:18 white and blue by the door of the senior
8:20 center Alex Erickson was with me when
8:23 that it was an Eagle Scout project to
8:28 collect and then finally dispose of
8:33 all U.S products
8:36 and to this day with my Congress sitting
8:39 here I did some rub calculation
8:42 2006 to present isn't that about 16 or
8:46 17 years so on those 16 to 17 years we
8:51 have disposed of at no cost to the city
8:55 7 000 over 7 000 Flags
8:59 we've taught the Boy Scouts and Cub
9:01 Scouts how to do that now the Girl
9:03 Scouts are involved
9:05 so we want you to take that into
9:08 consideration as well because it's in
9:10 our predominant location where everybody
9:13 in the city can drop those flights
9:16 now we will looking into hopefully a new
9:20 Dropbox because the post office came out
9:22 and said they don't want to see any more
9:24 of those they used to love as Calvin but
9:27 now they want to be our own type of
9:30 Dropbox so that's a project we've got to
9:33 do for the VFW to get that box switch
9:36 level Institute I've spoken my five
9:39 minutes and my thank you for letting us
9:42 be here tonight
9:48 foreign
10:04 enough to know the city
10:06 I'm also a veteran
10:09 I want to just bring up one thing that
10:11 Dave failed to mention
10:13 is you go through the slides
10:15 there are multiple lanes for what this
10:19 new
10:19 complex is going to be called
10:22 right now it's a Veterans Memorial Field
10:25 that's something that's Mirror Mirror to
10:27 our hearts something we'd like to see
10:29 continue but it's called several other
10:31 things on other slides so we'd like some
10:35 determination on when it's actually
10:37 going to be called
10:38 and I just want to angle everything that
10:40 data center for all my colleagues here
10:42 as well thank you
10:50 thank you
10:58 okay thank you
11:01 any other public comments
11:04 I don't do any other comments online
11:08 okay
11:12 all right thank you for your comments
11:17 um with that said I think we'll move
11:18 toward the community investment strategy
11:21 uh project update
11:24 great
11:26 um good evening everybody I'd love to
11:27 give an introduction to tonight and our
11:30 goals for tonight and also address thank
11:32 you so much both of you gentlemen for
11:34 for your comments
11:36 um Jeff Watling parks and Community
11:37 Services director
11:40 tonight we
11:43 um are going to talk about uh some of
11:45 the work you have a process update on
11:47 the work that the ad hoc group and our
11:51 design team within Architects
11:53 um and staff have been working on as we
11:55 try and pull together some Concepts that
11:57 really will facilitate Community
11:59 engagement as it comes
12:02 here in March through the month of March
12:06 um to to the comments made tonight and
12:10 hopefully again I hope you are all able
12:12 to stick around and sort of listen to
12:14 the discussion
12:16 um thank you thank you very much for
12:18 your your comments
12:20 I will own and want to apologize that
12:24 you were not contacted ahead of tonight
12:28 um that's not like us you can count on
12:30 continued coordination
12:32 through this process as we coordinate
12:35 with with many other but coordination
12:39 with you is is essential um in terms of
12:42 working with VFW
12:44 um what you'll hear tonight and just a
12:47 reminder of what we're trying to
12:49 accomplish tonight uh Park board members
12:51 is we're not looking to make a final
12:54 decision we're not we're not anywhere
12:56 close to knowing what a final design is
13:00 for for this important work
13:02 we are merely trying to take and begin
13:06 to vet what started as community and
13:09 feedback before the pandemic in 2019
13:14 um and now kick off a actual design
13:18 process for a council approved project
13:21 um that will con that will again have
13:26 um really focused period of public
13:28 engagement as we really look at at the
13:32 scope of this project and the focus here
13:34 of this project being pedestrian Park
13:36 and the Senior Center Plaza
13:40 thank you so much for your comment as
13:42 well because you're spot on the the the
13:46 collection of public spaces that this
13:49 project is
13:51 trying to introduce as a first phase is
13:54 take a bunch of disjointed
13:57 public spaces that have had and continue
14:00 to have various names right pedestrian
14:03 Park Depot Park the senior center
14:06 Veterans Memorial Field those are all
14:09 really really important spaces
14:13 but like the names that have been
14:15 adopted suggest they've never really had
14:18 a strong relationship to one another
14:20 tonight's conversation is not going to
14:23 be about Benson's Memorial Field
14:25 um but I think as you'll hear from the
14:28 design team as you'll hear from Jennifer
14:29 we want to keep in mind as we're looking
14:32 at these two areas of focus that we want
14:36 them to be designed in a way that
14:37 they're going to have a strong vibrant
14:39 relationship with Veterans Memorial
14:41 Field that they're going to have a
14:42 strong relationship with these other
14:44 public spaces and this really represents
14:47 a first investment of what
14:49 hopefully for years to come decades to
14:51 come where there is a
14:53 um a monument but that Monument is part
14:57 a cohesive public space that really
15:00 makes up in many ways the heart of Old
15:02 Town so
15:04 um enough of my intro
15:06 again my sincere apologies
15:09 um I'll turn it over to Jennifer and
15:12 she'll walk through with Deb and Emilia
15:16 from lethune Architects and again ad hoc
15:18 group thank you for all your work that
15:20 you've
15:21 last several weeks to get us even to
15:24 this process check so I really look
15:26 forward to the the conversation and
15:28 feedback from all of you as parkour
15:30 members
15:38 might just be helpful to
15:41 find a quick overview of the timeline
15:43 because yeah
15:47 somewhat responding to your comments
15:50 we believe we're very early maybe not as
15:53 early as we should have been but it's
15:55 still quite early and so
16:01 yeah and I think you'll hear through the
16:03 process that very thing and it was part
16:06 of the plan too very very shortly after
16:08 this to be reaching out so yeah so
16:12 probably we're still on the front end of
16:14 public Outreach and on the front end of
16:16 making any type of final design
16:18 decisions
16:20 um and I think you'll hear that tonight
16:22 so again thank you so glad glad you're
16:25 all here and before I get started on the
16:27 presentation if you've added your name
16:29 to this I will be sure in the email to
16:31 add into our contact list as well so
16:39 see the presentation
16:42 all right
16:44 um first of all thank you thank our
16:47 visitors this evening for their comments
16:49 um tonight we're here to talk about what
16:52 started as a community investment
16:54 strategy
16:56 um through Council uh with some arpa
16:58 funds that came to the city which uh
17:01 we'll talk about in a bit but I would
17:03 also like to first introduce
17:05 um our consultant team who is with us
17:07 tonight we have Jeff Gunther uh with
17:10 Methuen Architects and Amelia Jensen
17:14 who's also going to be uh chiming in on
17:17 the presentation with me this evening so
17:21 uh we're going to stop at a couple
17:23 points during the presentation
17:27 so as a reminder
17:30 um the last time the park board has
17:31 heard about this project at large was
17:34 back in November which wow
17:37 um seems like so long ago
17:40 um but that is when city council had we
17:42 provided an update on this project after
17:44 city council had made a motion to go
17:47 ahead and fund this project with Arbor
17:49 dollars for the 23-24 budget city
17:54 council authorized 4 billion to be
17:57 invested into the park system and at the
18:01 advisement of some feedback from the
18:04 park board
18:05 and after Council deliberation they
18:08 broke this into two different projects
18:10 that they wanted to fund with this four
18:12 million dollars 800 000 of it is going
18:15 to um Confluence Park house project
18:19 which we are not talking about tonight
18:22 but 3.2 million of Barbara funds for
18:26 investment in The Pedestrian Park Senior
18:28 Center Plaza portions of um what we're
18:32 calling Veterans Memorial Consolidated
18:34 Parks as kind of the capture name for
18:37 Veterans Memorial Field Senior Center
18:40 Jeep Ball Park pedestrian Park Sophie
18:42 here Consolidated we're talking about
18:44 all of the park spaces at once
18:49 foreign
18:50 these are just reminders of some of the
18:52 graphics that were shown to city council
18:55 back in October of last year of the
18:58 areas that are being considered as part
19:01 of this we are not
19:03 um as Jeff mentioned designing Veterans
19:05 Memorial Field at this time though as
19:08 we're thinking of these spaces we are
19:11 looking collectively at the
19:13 functionality of the larger space in
19:15 order to make sure the work we're doing
19:17 Within These highlighted areas
19:19 you can see so this is pedestrian park
19:23 down if anyone can see my hand down here
19:25 on the corner of front and sunset this
19:28 is the area that's called pedestrian
19:30 Park but we're also wanting to draw a
19:33 connection through the parking lot over
19:35 into the depot area if budget should
19:38 allow
19:39 and then we're also focusing on the
19:41 Senior Center Plaza the area here in the
19:44 center that's kind of shaded out is not
19:46 fully funded and not part of this
19:48 project but we are looking at how we can
19:51 perhaps do a connection to make sure
19:54 that these spaces read together in
19:57 aren't disjointed as part of the entire
19:59 park
20:01 here's just a quick close-up picture of
20:04 what was shown to council back in
20:06 October as a reminder of where our
20:08 starting point for some of this design
20:10 work was this was based on feedback
20:13 um some of the elements within these
20:15 designs from our 2019 Community
20:17 engagement
20:19 and also some ideas we were talking
20:21 about around the Senior Center Plaza how
20:24 can we make it more accessible how can
20:26 we make it more functional how can we
20:28 open up that space and really let the
20:31 senior center start relating to the play
20:33 areas and to the rest of the park and
20:35 provide some activity areas as well
20:41 so since our meeting in November we
20:44 probably after the holidays wondering
20:46 what has been going on
20:49 um we've been doing a lot and we've been
20:50 working a lot with our ad hoc committee
20:53 we've been doing a lot of site analysis
20:55 work understanding each of the side
20:57 areas what's happening out there on the
20:59 ground doing some research about some of
21:02 the history of the sites we've also been
21:05 coordinating with some neighborhood
21:07 businesses we've met with issquite
21:09 History Museum we've met with the
21:12 Creative Arts District board
21:15 and uh also been reviewing and going
21:19 back to that 2019 public engagement
21:22 again to really check and validate the
21:25 work that we're doing to make sure it's
21:27 um holding true uh to where we're going
21:31 so since that time
21:34 um we've also been working with the ad
21:36 hoc committee which is a representation
21:38 of four members of the park board we
21:40 have three of them here tonight Andrew
21:42 Myers Marlene Wesley and Chris kobek so
21:46 I'm going to ask them to chime in a
21:48 little later
21:49 um in the presentation
21:50 but in early February once we started
21:54 giving a little research and we took
21:56 some of the initial feedback we did kind
21:58 of a basis of design and looked at a
22:00 whole bunch of variety of options and
22:02 ideas
22:04 um that were just all individually
22:05 floating around and then in uh on
22:09 Valentine's Day February 14th uh was
22:12 really when we came together and started
22:14 focusing on four framework options for
22:17 this design work and Amelia's going to
22:19 be walking us through some of those and
22:23 through that work with the ad hoc
22:24 committee looking at some of the pros
22:27 and cons of each of the different design
22:28 spaces we've narrowed this down into two
22:32 preferred Concepts that we are going to
22:35 be taking out to the community for
22:36 engagement again these are Concepts
22:40 these are we want feedback on these and
22:44 likely what will eventually be a final
22:46 product
22:47 will likely be a combination of elements
22:49 of both of these Designs Plus input from
22:51 the community so timing is very well for
22:56 initial engagement
22:59 um we'll hit some of the project
23:00 timelines kind of at the end of the
23:02 presentation and next steps but for now
23:05 I think I'm going to pass it over to
23:07 Amelia to start walking us through the
23:10 framework studies and just let me know
23:12 when you want me to
23:14 do not slide Amelia
23:21 hold on
23:23 I think
23:26 that we needed myself again
23:28 um I think Deb was actually going to
23:29 take this first portion and then I'm
23:31 going to take over the next section
23:33 yeah I could jump in here thank you so
23:36 really great to see everyone
23:38 um I'm Deb Gunther
23:40 um I'm partner and the landscape
23:41 architect at methune so really great to
23:43 to be with you all tonight
23:46 um we wanted to just point out in this
23:48 slide that um uh you know as we're
23:51 looking at two specific sites that you
23:53 heard about we're also always looking
23:55 zooming out and looking at the overall
23:57 context and so a lot of the ideas that
24:00 you see starting to be suggested here
24:02 came from that 2019 Outreach strategy
24:05 ideas of you know what happens when you
24:07 get to the end of the plaza processional
24:10 and you've walked through ped Park
24:11 you've walked through Depot Park you've
24:13 arrived at senior center you know maybe
24:16 that there's a strolling Loop for
24:18 example this that is still something
24:20 that's being
24:22 um developed but we want to be thinking
24:24 about what are the possibilities so that
24:26 we're not designing something that
24:28 precludes different options from being
24:30 you know evolving at Veterans Memorial
24:33 oil field so we're thinking about how
24:36 the scale changes zooming in zooming out
24:38 and we're also thinking about how the
24:40 scale changes from what's shown in pink
24:43 which is a little more of a Civic scale
24:45 associated with
24:47 um the Rainier Trail and this city hall
24:50 but also uh moving across to the
24:53 neighborhood scale in the purple on the
24:56 east side and so on the next slide you
24:59 can also see that as we talk about water
25:02 features tonight this won't necessarily
25:05 be the only water feature and so as
25:07 we're thinking about the long-term
25:09 development of the overall park there
25:11 might be a series of water features the
25:14 other thing that we're thinking about is
25:15 this is there might be a series of
25:17 pavilions and so as you start to think
25:20 about what you're looking at
25:22 um we want you know we're we're always
25:24 thinking about how can those become part
25:27 of an experience that you see again
25:29 elsewhere in the park and that starts to
25:31 tie all these disparate pieces that Jeff
25:34 was talking about into a more cohesive
25:36 experience
25:40 and the next slide is really zooming in
25:42 on ped Park so we're gonna this is one
25:45 of the two spaces that we'll be talking
25:47 more about
25:48 um this is just the basic conditions
25:51 that are there today that people have
25:53 observed and that we've heard from folks
25:55 about
25:56 um and and observed so the green
25:58 rectangle are the large cluster of uh
26:01 big leaf maples that are out there
26:03 there's been a lot of conversation about
26:05 making sure the sight line to Depot the
26:08 depot building is visible from the
26:10 intersection there's also a lot of
26:13 conversation around the noise level
26:15 that's closer to the corner obviously
26:17 with more traffic it's a noisier
26:19 experience and then wanting to create
26:22 spaces that uh encourage people to
26:26 linger and not just pass through so
26:28 right now it often feels like a
26:31 pass-through space to folks
26:33 um and then lastly the the the walls on
26:37 either side of the the restaurants on
26:39 either side are most of the walls are
26:41 blank or loading
26:43 um and and trash areas and so we want to
26:46 find ways of screening that there's
26:48 opportunity for public art there's
26:51 opportunity for coordination between the
26:54 two property owners and so there's been
26:56 some conversations started there and
26:58 folks are really excited about you know
27:01 how that how that might contribute to
27:04 this space
27:06 and then up at senior center
27:08 um this is a uh wants to be part of the
27:12 same
27:13 um set of kid of Parts there's part of
27:15 the same experience and so uh really
27:18 looking at how how does that
27:21 um pattern of whatever that pattern is
27:23 as we look at the two schemes that that
27:25 starts to show up at the senior center
27:28 as well and that uh your the circulation
27:31 is kind of bringing you into
27:33 um into the overall uh Park experience
27:36 and then
27:38 um an activity area is shown in pink and
27:41 so this is a I think an area that we're
27:43 still evolving but really interesting
27:46 um opportunity to bring some activities
27:49 closer to the senior center and then
27:52 also relate them to the field
27:54 um The Pavilion is the thing that we'll
27:56 talk the most about tonight and that is
27:59 an intermediary between the senior
28:00 center and that um that public space and
28:04 one of the interesting things we heard
28:05 from the ad hoc committee that we took
28:07 to heart was just thinking about
28:09 how that Pavilion wants to feel
28:12 um very much part of that Civic space
28:14 and not get too close to the senior
28:16 center so that everyone feels that that
28:18 Pavilion is is available to them to to
28:21 use
28:24 so um there's just some idea of uh
28:29 thinking about that activity area
28:32 um it's a pretty narrow space between
28:34 the building and the trees so we started
28:36 looking at both sides of the trees and
28:39 really thinking about which parts are
28:41 garden areas which parts are maybe Bocce
28:44 or sport you know some kind of
28:46 shuffleboard type play area
28:49 um of games and which parts are seating
28:52 and how those relate to the open field
28:54 area and the paths that go through there
28:57 so these are just starting to look at
28:59 what combinations those elements might
29:02 play with each other
29:06 and Amelia is going to walk us through
29:08 that first set of four uh framework
29:10 ideas
29:12 yeah thanks Deb can everyone hear me
29:14 okay
29:15 yes great
29:18 um so
29:19 after uh after some of those initial
29:22 studies some of that analysis and
29:24 inventory of the existing spaces
29:27 um we did a whole bunch of brainstorming
29:29 I think we ended up having maybe 15
29:31 ideas at some point of how this might
29:33 play out uh Within These spaces but
29:36 these are the four framework plans that
29:38 that we brought to your ad hoc committee
29:41 and that we worked through working
29:43 towards the two concepts that we're
29:46 going to share in more detail tonight
29:47 but we just wanted to show these because
29:49 as we've said in the beginning all of
29:53 these plans are still very much up in
29:55 the air and flux there's lots of ideas
29:57 and there's anything you see in these
30:00 plans that is really exciting to you
30:02 maybe we want to bring that back so just
30:04 be thinking about that as we look
30:06 through all of these options that these
30:08 are also very much
30:10 up in there and on the table so
30:13 um the four Concepts really spoke to
30:16 different aspects of Issaquah
30:18 um and and how and what we
30:21 saw was important to people who live in
30:24 Issaquah and and care about this park so
30:28 um the first concept uh builds off the
30:31 idea of glacial erratics this is
30:33 something that you may have seen around
30:35 in some of your Parks these large
30:38 Boulders that were deposited during the
30:40 last ice age
30:42 um and so that really speaks to the part
30:47 of Issaquah that is really about the
30:50 outdoors and about exploring and about
30:52 this kind of natural elements the
30:55 counterbalance concept
30:57 um really takes those maple trees as a
31:00 big weight in the space and seeks to
31:03 offset them with another large weight of
31:06 a water feature and this becomes this
31:08 setup within the space that really
31:10 creates this Meandering path and it's
31:12 really beautiful sort of trail-like
31:13 experience
31:15 um that you'll see this is one of the
31:17 concepts that we're moving forward
31:19 tonight the rail fragments um
31:23 uh is really drawing on Issaquah history
31:27 um and thinking about the rail area
31:30 um and then the final concept really
31:32 draws more on the community and the
31:35 experience of being together so we can
31:38 move move forward I'm going to run
31:40 through these pretty quickly
31:42 um so like I said the glacial erotics
31:44 concept
31:45 um really draws on these these large
31:48 expressive Boulders that have a lot of
31:50 character
31:51 um a lot of mock a lot of warmth and and
31:55 moisture and these Boulders would be set
31:58 in little pools that would be collecting
32:01 water dripping off the boulders you go
32:04 to the next slide
32:08 um as you can see here how we'd have a
32:10 couple of larger and couple smaller
32:12 rocks for some of them for climbing some
32:14 of them for
32:15 um for water to be expressed and then if
32:19 you go to the next slide
32:21 in the evening some of those pools could
32:24 be lit from below with some sparkly
32:25 lights so you really get this warm kind
32:28 of magical inviting feel from these
32:30 pools in the boulders
32:31 and go to the next slide
32:34 over at the senior center that's concept
32:37 really translates into a series of
32:40 raised or lowered Planters with
32:43 Associated benches and the
32:46 um The Pavilion that's associated with
32:49 this concept you could go to the next
32:51 slide is
32:54 a it is a response to that same kind of
32:59 weight gravity of the glacial erratic
33:01 holders and it's this sort of origami
33:04 shaped cortense feel structure that is
33:08 really inspired by flowers
33:11 um and at the base of each they'd be
33:14 collecting water and and have a little
33:16 pool of a rain Garden at the base
33:18 and go to the next concept
33:21 through this one very quickly because
33:23 this is one of the concepts that we'll
33:25 be speaking about more uh but this is
33:27 the counterbalance concept we have the
33:30 maples on the left
33:34 Auto feature on the right side
33:37 um and we have these beautiful arching
33:38 Jets and we're moving through this Grove
33:41 of trees and around and through to the
33:43 rest of the park
33:47 things
33:49 you can skip to the next slide
33:52 and so this concept is really lit with
33:55 bollards and under benches and this glow
33:58 from the water feature
33:59 the next slide
34:02 and over at the senior center that same
34:05 sort of counterbalance of moving from
34:07 one side to the other and having this
34:09 profession if you move through the space
34:11 it's really comfortable flow with these
34:14 uh these bent benches
34:20 side and that Pavilion in this concept
34:23 is a little bit different from where we
34:25 ended up but still a really interesting
34:27 option this is a glass roofed Pavilion
34:30 with these very light wood
34:33 um themes that allow a lot of light to
34:36 come through so it's a little bit of a
34:38 different expression
34:40 um of of light and Shadow that really
34:43 keeps a
34:44 it keeps it really light underneath also
34:47 protecting you from the rain in the
34:48 winter months
34:50 the real fragments concept really came
34:54 from it was inspired by Don sells art
34:58 ideas for
35:01 for the football Park and
35:05 um these ideas of these found objects
35:07 like pieces of the old rail line
35:10 um can see some of those images in the
35:12 bottom middle of the of the inspiration
35:15 images
35:17 um and this really led us to these
35:19 strong individual forms of water
35:23 underneath a Grove of trees
35:26 that would have water just really
35:29 pooling at the top spilling over the
35:31 sides creating these little pockets of
35:33 seating creating this really comfortable
35:35 space to be able to have that
35:38 um the sound of the water as you're
35:40 sitting at a table having your lunch
35:43 having a conversation with a friend that
35:46 that really spoke to the history of the
35:48 site you can see in the paving these two
35:51 really strong lines that move through
35:54 that emphasize where the old rail line
35:56 used to be coming through this space
36:02 Pockets receiving in the shade
36:05 so that concept translates over here at
36:08 the senior center with similar bent
36:10 forms for its feeding and this shelter
36:13 design that incorporates event roof line
36:18 um that really is meant to evoke the um
36:21 the Foothills around Issaquah and the
36:23 sort of the sort of skyline that you see
36:27 when you look out from the fields
36:31 so our law Concepts and again this is
36:34 one of the ones that we're moving
36:35 forward so you'll hear more about it
36:37 it's really centered around coming to
36:39 the table coming together
36:41 with your community and creating a
36:44 really wonderful unique space
36:47 to spend time in a in a way that
36:51 there is no other place like this in in
36:54 Issaquah so this concept has a
36:58 flat elevated
37:01 artificial turf lawn
37:03 um that's nice and green and comfortable
37:07 um and you know all all months of the
37:10 year uh really beautiful water feature
37:13 with these uh
37:15 these water jets that look like candles
37:18 and then they're lit at night so it
37:21 looks like this beautiful table that's
37:22 been laid out
37:24 for the community together to gather
37:27 around so we have chairs and tables on
37:29 one side we have this beautiful lawn on
37:32 the other side and these water depths
37:34 creating this slow and this um the sound
37:38 and this effect of um
37:40 of this beautiful table that's that's
37:43 set for everyone
37:45 so with that
37:48 um we did have a couple of alternate
37:49 layouts for this plan that's always
37:52 something we can look at again
37:54 um this would be like I said lit from
37:56 the candles lip from below the sense of
37:59 water
38:00 um Lighting in the trees and we've got
38:01 some new visualizations for these as
38:03 well
38:05 um over at the senior center
38:07 um this Pavilion is really inspired by
38:11 the forest and light coming through the
38:13 canopy in the forest so we've got these
38:16 big open
38:18 openings in the the roof of the shelter
38:22 these are actually covered in glass so
38:24 they would just be letting light through
38:25 not water
38:26 um but this really beautiful just light
38:29 touch Pavilion sitting on top of these
38:33 uh metal legs
38:36 so those are the four Concepts we spoke
38:40 with the ad hoc committee at length
38:42 about these we had a lot of really great
38:43 conversations about what it means to be
38:46 in Issaquah
38:47 what it means to live there and
38:50 um what's really important to folks and
38:52 that's what we prioritize moving forward
38:54 so Jen I'll let you take that away
38:58 great thank you Amelia
39:01 um so as we went through those four
39:04 Frameworks uh Design Concepts with the
39:08 ad hoc committee
39:10 um and some of the early work we had
39:11 done
39:12 um during the basis of design
39:14 conversations some of the feedback we
39:17 heard
39:18 um specific to pedestrian Park was you
39:20 know really a strong preference to keep
39:22 it an open space so it could be
39:25 multi-functional so you could really
39:27 enjoy that space But like the natural
39:30 features of rocks and erratics that
39:33 really resonates with Issaquah having
39:37 that natural feature
39:39 but also how important flowing water is
39:43 as a cultural
39:46 meaning and it's really a positive thing
39:50 in many cultures and so that was really
39:53 interesting for us
39:55 um also using light as an attractant
39:58 this is a space that is we want to
40:02 function in the evening hours when there
40:04 are things happening downtown Issaquah
40:05 we want people to be able to enjoy feel
40:08 safe and have a good time out there
40:12 um some of the forms were a little too
40:14 strong and urban within those spaces uh
40:17 for Issaquah uh though we um compared to
40:22 like maybe some of downtown Seattle or
40:24 Chicago areas
40:26 um and one of the concepts there was
40:28 some Mist that was explored as part of a
40:31 landscape or a lighting or a water
40:33 feature thing wasn't quite
40:35 um maybe in Arizona where you need the
40:38 cooling but uh not quite here uh wasn't
40:41 working but um really you know we
40:43 explored the gamut of options on these
40:46 and really as we work with the um
40:50 existing trees that are on site we're
40:52 going to have to do a health assessment
40:54 on those trees and we also really need
40:56 to be thinking of those trees since they
40:59 are so old you know what that long-term
41:01 management is going to be so as we do
41:03 work with arborist we'll find more out
41:05 um about that
41:08 um and then when we look over at the
41:09 senior center
41:11 um I think one thing I that we didn't
41:13 mention and for some of our newcomers
41:15 might be important is we're also looking
41:17 at ways to currently open up some of the
41:20 facade of the senior center right now
41:24 um it used to be an old uh Library space
41:28 And so there's an area that doesn't get
41:31 used that's kind of behind a wall if we
41:34 were to open that up and it could be
41:35 more relatable to the senior center and
41:37 the senior center could have more
41:38 relationship so how do we really provide
41:42 spaces for them and activities
41:44 um because there are no outdoor Elder
41:47 activities that can take place over
41:49 there but also how could they double
41:51 with other community benefit news but
41:54 how can we create a more inviting space
41:57 for everyone
41:59 um we wanted that space to also Orient
42:01 really Foster multi-generational
42:04 interactions how important those
42:07 interactions are to community well-being
42:10 but also
42:12 people like to get out of the weather so
42:14 some of the concepts had more open
42:16 filtration or light
42:19 um uh wanting to make sure that when the
42:22 reviews that they are protected from the
42:24 weather so with that I would like to
42:27 take a minute to ask the ad hoc members
42:30 who are here to add before we get into
42:33 describing each of the two concepts that
42:35 we've narrowed down what else through
42:37 this process through the framework would
42:39 you like to to share with everyone
42:42 if anything I guess I can start
42:45 addicting something that I really
42:47 appreciated in the second meeting is we
42:49 kicked it off by really thinking about
42:51 like what two different parts of this
42:52 club mean to each of the people in the
42:54 room to sort of ground and like watch
42:56 some of those design principles be so
42:58 when we talked about nature or the creek
43:01 or you know some of those types of
43:03 components I thought that was a nice way
43:05 to keep grounding the group on like how
43:07 does a space relate to what makes this
43:10 special versus just any sort of heart
43:14 with benches
43:18 okay uh so one of the things that I
43:21 found
43:23 really fun about the process so Bethune
43:26 brought us these four it's called
43:27 Frameworks here but it's like a themes
43:29 and they are themes and the one of them
43:34 the table
43:35 at first you know that based on they
43:38 brought us images from different
43:40 situations like in Dallas I think and
43:43 they're bigger parks and this is this
43:46 narrow Park and for us it really didn't
43:49 resonate it's I think we're all saying I
43:51 don't know about that one I don't think
43:52 so and
43:55 um then they said well let's play with
43:56 it a little bit they brought it back
43:58 reshaped and resized for this part it
44:02 was pedestrian Park and it was really
44:04 neat to see how
44:07 you could take something that was one
44:08 big shape and resize it and it became at
44:13 least a very positive it may not be the
44:15 favorite in the end but it was a
44:19 it was well liked on the second time
44:20 around and so it was really fun to
44:22 explore all the ideas and ways that you
44:24 know I don't do in my daily routine or
44:26 anything like that so
44:28 yeah I don't have much to add but just
44:31 to build a little about on this concept
44:33 of pulling in different aspects of the
44:36 history and the surroundings where how
44:38 do we find in the natural beauty of
44:41 Issaquah with the history of the
44:43 railroad uh with the you know Urban
44:47 environments and and all of those things
44:50 and there's there's sort of this uh
44:52 cross-section there of the
44:56 80s old library building with the
45:00 surrounding mountains with more of the
45:02 the modern architecture surroundings of
45:06 the residential area with the old town
45:08 like early 1900s downtown so thinking
45:11 about how do you pull all of that
45:13 together in the central part of town so
45:16 that all of those
45:17 Jesus feel reflected without it being a
45:20 hodgepodge
45:24 great I have one question so as I'm
45:28 looking at
45:30 sorry at all these like designs and
45:32 things I was just funny
45:33 um are we like expanding the senior
45:36 center and like these parts and things
45:37 like ripping out other stuff and trying
45:39 to like you know make it bigger or just
45:42 renovating you know what's already there
45:44 and then you know just taking out
45:45 everything there
45:47 great it's a little bit of both so um
45:51 like in pedestrian Park that would be
45:52 more of a renovation of the existing
45:55 space if you've been there there's like
45:56 old trellises
45:58 there's some weird furniture in there
46:01 and you can't really see the depot and
46:03 it feels like a very different space so
46:05 that space would be a little bit more of
46:07 a renovation over at the senior center
46:09 we would be opening up spaces that
46:12 aren't used in a highly functional way
46:14 right now but it's not um
46:18 so we're redeveloping those but we will
46:21 be adding activities in spaces that
46:23 there would not be currently so a little
46:26 bit above and can I add something to
46:29 that so yeah the senior center itself is
46:31 not going to be
46:34 demolished or added to the the facility
46:36 itself it's more how that facility
46:38 relates to the park is really a key goal
46:42 uh rather than the senior center feeling
46:44 like it's just sort of tucked in a
46:45 corner we'd love
46:48 for this project to really help
46:51 give that give that indoor space a
46:55 relationship to the park
46:57 um so it's just basically trying to
46:58 connect okay the senior center to The
47:00 Pedestrian Park and then it's a Memorial
47:03 Field and there to be a better
47:05 relationship between those those public
47:08 spaces
47:09 um I just want to add it it's been a
47:12 great getting and hearing the ad hoc
47:14 group engagement I I still appreciate
47:17 the ad hoc meeting approach that you or
47:20 the ad hoc group approach that U.S Park
47:22 Board are taking I think is really
47:25 impactful as as we work with design team
47:28 to start formulating Concepts Marlene
47:31 thank you for mentioning the that
47:33 question about nature or not about
47:35 nature but about what what is it what
47:38 are the characteristics what are the
47:39 values of Issaquah that we want to sort
47:42 of carry into this work
47:44 um we too really like that question and
47:46 actually as we talk about a survey and
47:49 introducing these two concepts we're
47:52 going to start with that question to the
47:54 community to really pull from our
47:56 residents what what are those elements
48:00 that really really are important in
48:01 Issaquah that we wanted
48:03 so to see resonated through this through
48:05 this project
48:07 and then for
48:10 I think the whole park board is we're
48:11 about to see these two concepts is we're
48:13 about to really enter in and open up
48:15 this discussion for all of you I think
48:18 an important thing to remember with as
48:20 we're refining from these four
48:21 Frameworks down to two concepts we're
48:23 not trying to drive to two perfect
48:25 Concepts that we're going to ask the
48:28 community choose this one or that one
48:30 you know think of this as the
48:32 opportunity how do we introduce ideas
48:35 and in a way test them well you know
48:39 what elements of one option do the
48:42 community seem to like what elements of
48:44 another option did the community seem to
48:45 like to really help inform
48:48 what a final might be we didn't try we
48:52 talked about this with the ad hoc and I
48:53 just think it's an important reminder
48:54 for all of us as you see these neither
48:57 of these are probably perfect neither of
48:59 these are the finished product we don't
49:01 even want to try and do that we want to
49:02 introduce Concepts having a variance
49:05 within them so that we really get a
49:07 sense of where does this community want
49:09 to land with this with this work so
49:14 and with that that's a great segue as to
49:18 how the four framework options were
49:23 kind of picked apart and melded together
49:25 and then broke again into these two
49:27 different revised Concepts
49:30 we also renamed the concepts into
49:34 Creekside table and Valley Trail just to
49:36 help resonate on what is important uh
49:39 within Issaquah
49:41 and so with that I'm going to pass it
49:44 over to Deb to start walking us through
49:47 our first revised concept which is
49:50 Valley Trail
49:52 great thanks Jennifer yeah and thanks
49:54 for that um great segue Jeff because I I
49:58 do think um this is it's great to keep
50:00 in mind that these are in flux
50:03 um so this inspiration for the Valley
50:05 Trail is really uh pulling things
50:09 forward that we heard from the ad hoc
50:11 committee that were important so you'll
50:13 see in both schemes a uh interpretation
50:16 of the glacial erratics and you'll see
50:19 in both schemes different interpretation
50:21 of water and different interpretations
50:23 of how the paths move through the space
50:26 in this version it's it's it's about you
50:29 know creating this experience of of
50:31 really being on a trail
50:32 um and being being
50:34 um uh exposed to these different
50:37 um parts of of being uh part of that
50:41 Valley
50:42 go to the next Slide the valley you know
50:45 scheme the valley was the what we heard
50:48 in 2019 was you know we live in the
50:51 mountains we come down to the Valley and
50:53 so it was really um both of these
50:56 schemes are really looking at ways to
50:57 really accentuate that unique aspect of
51:00 downtown so this really shows you that
51:03 overall framework again we want to keep
51:05 in mind that big scale but we're going
51:07 to zero in on pet Park first
51:10 um at the at the intersection and so
51:12 this is a planned view of of that Sunset
51:15 and um and Front Street are down in the
51:18 lower left and then the depot park is in
51:21 the upper right and so uh you can see
51:24 the water feature is really a set of
51:27 arching water features similar to what
51:29 you saw in the prior scheme and here uh
51:33 the idea is that you've got a very wide
51:36 generous path that you're Meandering
51:38 through this space and it's it's quite
51:40 quite open and there's a new Bosque of
51:44 trees a new kind of set of trees sitting
51:47 in front of those existing big leaf
51:49 maples and you can see here A View
51:52 looking
51:53 um into that space past the water
51:56 feature this is from the corner looking
51:58 toward Depot Park
52:00 um and uh that that wall of the of
52:04 Jack's restaurant in this case we're
52:06 saying what about the potential for a
52:08 public mural as part of that backdrop
52:12 um and uh the plantings in this scheme
52:15 are really all about the The Meadows of
52:18 the valley so grasses and perennials
52:20 lots of seasonal texture but really kind
52:23 of focusing on
52:26 um on that kind of grassy feeling that
52:28 The Meadows bring and then if you go to
52:30 the next slide
52:32 um we're really looking at from uh the
52:36 other side of that same entrance still
52:37 looking toward Depot Park but you're
52:39 kind of getting the view of the the
52:41 water feature so it's an opportunity to
52:44 either you know drag your hand along the
52:47 The Edge the The Arches arching water
52:49 sit on the edge and put your feet in or
52:53 just sit in the bistro tables and kind
52:55 of hear the sounds and the and the
52:57 cooling sense of that of that water
53:01 um and in the very other end this is
53:04 looking back toward the intersection
53:07 um looking at the big leaf maples on the
53:09 right that exists there today and then
53:11 thinking about ways of screening some of
53:14 the the loading um areas of the
53:16 restaurants and so in this case using
53:20 fencing material to do that in
53:22 combination with some of the landscape
53:25 and then the next scheme you get a
53:27 feeling back out at the intersection how
53:30 that night lighting might be visible and
53:33 really focusing on the dancing lights of
53:35 the of the water movement and that
53:38 reflectivity against the the backdrop of
53:41 the grasses and then uplighting the big
53:44 leaf maples so in the senior center
53:46 that's fine that's great to go to the
53:48 senior center so the senior center
53:50 um the uh you can see the uh kind of
53:54 plan view here the benches continue the
53:57 paving kind of patterns continue so you
53:59 know you're in a similar space and I
54:02 wanted to point out
54:03 um because I really appreciated the
54:05 comments from the VFW folks and thanks
54:09 so much for taking the time to come and
54:12 share those stories because it's very it
54:14 really hits when you hear those personal
54:16 stories and
54:18 um and I think in all these schemes you
54:20 can see the island of where the the
54:23 memorial and the flagpole are remains
54:26 and um that it's not something that
54:29 um you know that that has to go and so I
54:32 I think as we learn more uh about this
54:37 this work I think that's definitely
54:40 um really appreciate again the hearing
54:42 that story and um very meaningful
54:46 um and so I think you'll see in both
54:50 schemes that the the island isn't isn't
54:52 changing there
54:54 um and then the Pavilion uh well and in
54:57 fact I wanted to point out that uh some
55:00 of the eight the Ada spaces are actually
55:02 being shifted in this parking lot so
55:04 that you can have a a little more space
55:07 actually that would add to that that
55:10 experience at the memorial and the
55:13 flagpole and becomes the drop-off for
55:15 the senior center so there's more spaces
55:18 that people can drive in drop off and
55:20 then continued on to the the Ada spaces
55:25 um and then go to the next slide I think
55:27 um Amelia did a great job of describing
55:29 this particular Pavilion this is looking
55:31 to the East and um just the idea of this
55:35 undulating form that starts to look like
55:37 the the Foothills and then the next
55:40 um image you can kind of see some of the
55:42 materials the edges The Core 10 steel
55:45 which is a rust color kind of brick
55:47 color which goes with the senior center
55:49 the steel poles and the steel posts in
55:53 this case and the underside is wood and
55:55 then glass skylights that let light
55:57 through into the space
56:00 and then another view then looking back
56:04 um toward Depot Park
56:08 and then you get a feeling for what some
56:11 of those might look like in the actual
56:13 built precedence down below
56:15 foreign
56:18 and then the other scheme is about the
56:21 Creekside table so again inspired by the
56:24 Hatchery for example and really
56:27 um that sort of connection with
56:28 community Through
56:30 um the experience of the salmon
56:32 returning and the Hatchery experience
56:34 and then places to gather with with
56:36 everyone around the table
56:39 um so that was really the driving
56:40 inspiration there and so in this scheme
56:43 you see the overall and then we're out
56:46 here at pet park again this scheme
56:48 instead of the one big wide path we have
56:51 a couple of paths so one that's sort of
56:54 tucked in on the left-hand side a little
56:56 narrower
56:57 um and then one that gives really a
56:58 straight shot to Depot Park and so
57:02 um in the and then you can see the water
57:04 feature which is really an
57:07 interpretation of the glacial erratic
57:09 and so that's a rough hewn rock that
57:11 Emilia described that is sometimes water
57:14 and sometimes planted and so but one
57:17 continuous um
57:18 uh interpretation of that glacial
57:21 erratic that's about the height of a of
57:23 a table and so you can see that here
57:26 um the bistro tables are on one side the
57:29 water candles were kind of call our
57:31 lighting designer called or water
57:33 designer calls them water candles
57:36 um it kind of gives a romantic feeling
57:38 at night
57:39 um kind of gives a lively feeling during
57:41 the day
57:42 um and when you're sitting on the
57:44 Synthetic Turf on the other side you're
57:47 at the same level as those water candles
57:49 so you have a chance to stretch out
57:51 right next to right next to the water in
57:54 that in that space there on the lawn
57:57 um so those stairs also become sitting
58:01 areas and so there's a little bit of a
58:03 cozy more Infamous space as you're
58:07 walking through this this side of the
58:09 park
58:12 and then looking from the other end back
58:14 toward the intersection using plantings
58:16 in this uh approach to screen some of
58:20 the um the loading areas so that's a
58:23 difference between the two schemes and
58:25 then at the night lighting is really
58:27 maybe a opportunity for public art in
58:30 the paving and the night lighting
58:32 and again
58:34 um some of the uh references that Don
58:37 Fels has made in sort of his assessments
58:40 early assessments of of the history of
58:42 of Issaquah and the importance of the
58:44 rail line in this location
58:50 and then in the senior center in this
58:51 scheme
58:52 um again picking up on some of the same
58:54 seating patterns um see a bench bench
58:58 patterns the plantings in this scheme
59:00 are more shrub and Twiggy um Twiggy Vine
59:04 Maple type plantings that um that you
59:08 can still see through but actually
59:10 provide a little more sense of enclosure
59:13 in this in this option and then the
59:15 Pavilion is uh you know reflecting the
59:19 idea of more of a garden trellis so it's
59:21 a more wood structure with some glass
59:25 coverings of those those openings and
59:28 the openings are really creating a
59:30 shadow pattern that is reminiscent of
59:33 the forest and
59:34 um and really getting filtered light
59:36 into the into those spaces
59:44 so I think those are the the two schemes
59:46 that we have to share with you I think
59:49 um it would be great to hear uh any
59:52 comments and oh what I didn't mention
59:54 I'm going to mention one retroactively
59:56 mentioned in the first scheme the um
59:59 glacial erratic interpretation is a
1:00:02 picnic Boulder that you may not have
1:00:04 seen it was a little bit in the middle
1:00:06 ground but the idea is uh by the base of
1:00:09 the tree there's a large Boulder that
1:00:12 folks can actually climb up on and
1:00:14 actually sit on have picnics
1:00:17 um uh and it's sort of you can kind of
1:00:19 see the person yeah red and blue in the
1:00:21 mid ground there by the tree the large
1:00:24 trees that's a low Boulder that folks
1:00:27 can actually sit on and bring you know
1:00:29 have have lunch on that sort of an
1:00:31 alternative seating area that is
1:00:34 reminiscent of that glacial erratic
1:00:36 that's you know very specific to the to
1:00:38 the area
1:00:40 so thank you
1:00:42 look forward to everyone's comments
1:00:46 and Jennifer's gonna go over some of the
1:00:48 the next steps for the schedule
1:00:51 yeah we'll just quick discussion for oh
1:00:55 yeah we can do that no I I yeah I'd love
1:00:58 to open it up for discussion and stop
1:01:00 sharing see who's
1:01:02 got feedback or questions and then we
1:01:04 can talk next steps uh
1:01:10 so Zach you want to facilitate I'm on
1:01:14 mute okay there we go uh Brad I think I
1:01:17 saw your hand up
1:01:19 uh yeah thanks Zach
1:01:22 um boy a lot of good stuff Deb thanks
1:01:23 for sharing all that and all the hard
1:01:25 work that the ad hoc has done
1:01:28 I really like a lot of it and so and and
1:01:30 uh it'd be interesting to see how this
1:01:32 evolves love the water features my only
1:01:35 concern would be maintenance something
1:01:38 for parks to address and and be
1:01:41 interested to hear
1:01:42 uh the maintenance challenges relating
1:01:45 to water features but uh really a big
1:01:47 fan of water features
1:01:49 I love the uh the night lighting uh
1:01:54 really another especially for ped Park
1:01:56 really a good option
1:01:59 um one thing I guess cautionary comment
1:02:02 would be to scale and some of the visual
1:02:05 images because I think that the space
1:02:08 reflected in your images for pedestrian
1:02:12 Park uh the reality is that's a lot
1:02:15 narrower than what your images seem to
1:02:17 suggest and so some of those images
1:02:20 might be a little deceiving in terms of
1:02:22 what you can create there and so I guess
1:02:25 one of my suggestions would be as you
1:02:28 get down to the wire on this to really
1:02:31 put it to scale to really show visually
1:02:35 what that could look like
1:02:37 in reality rather than a dream because
1:02:41 some of those visuals as a go through
1:02:44 there are beautiful but I just don't
1:02:46 think that that's the scale and I and so
1:02:48 I would be reluctant to say that that's
1:02:51 reality
1:02:53 um and um you know one of the other
1:02:55 things and you've commented on a number
1:02:57 of times I this is really all in my
1:03:00 opinion all about trying to keep the
1:03:02 theme close to an Old Town design
1:03:06 concept
1:03:08 um I I think and this is commented on
1:03:11 there
1:03:12 you know an Urban Design which some of
1:03:15 this looks a little like I think is
1:03:18 would be outstanding for some of the
1:03:21 green necklace uh along Gilman Boulevard
1:03:24 as that gets developed because you're
1:03:26 going to be a lot in the future is going
1:03:28 to be a lot
1:03:29 you know high-rise buildings a lot more
1:03:32 new development so I I think some of the
1:03:35 imagery might be more um appropriate for
1:03:39 the green necklace in that area uh
1:03:42 whereas in Old Town it's all about
1:03:44 history
1:03:46 um the rail veterans uh you know that
1:03:51 veteran you know I don't know what's
1:03:52 been explored in terms of veterans
1:03:55 history or Veterans Field but there's a
1:03:57 substantial history to Veterans Memorial
1:03:59 Field and to be able to somehow bring
1:04:03 that into the theme you know I think
1:04:06 would be a good suggestion
1:04:08 um so any of that you know to me it's
1:04:10 old town it's history it's salmon a lot
1:04:13 different than the urban look for the
1:04:15 green necklace over by Gilman
1:04:21 I've said enough thank you
1:04:23 thanks Brad I see Tim's got his hand up
1:04:26 forgive me I can't really see into the
1:04:29 uh actual Tibbetts Manor room so uh Tim
1:04:33 thank you uh and um yeah it's beautiful
1:04:37 designs a lot of work's gone into it a
1:04:41 lot of great ideas I love the trying to
1:04:44 blend in the you know the real sense of
1:04:46 Issaquah the mountains and the water and
1:04:49 the natural features so you know a big
1:04:53 round of applause for that uh
1:04:56 a couple things that came up for me Brad
1:04:58 actually touched on uh which is like The
1:05:01 Pedestrian Park area I really wonder if
1:05:04 you have that rather large water feature
1:05:06 there called a counterbalance how much
1:05:09 actual space is there for people to walk
1:05:11 through there because it's a fairly
1:05:12 narrow space and if you have one or two
1:05:15 people walking through like they were
1:05:17 shown in the uh designs that's fine but
1:05:20 if you have a you know a crowded weekend
1:05:22 with things happening in downtown
1:05:24 Issaquah and there's a substantial
1:05:26 number of people going through there I
1:05:28 just wonder if that's not creating a
1:05:29 choke point where it's not intentional
1:05:31 but you may be creating a real choke
1:05:33 point for people trying to walk through
1:05:36 so that's one thought and a lot of it
1:05:38 goes back to Brad's suggestions about
1:05:41 making it really to scale so we can kind
1:05:44 of see what that looks like
1:05:48 along the lines of blending in the old
1:05:52 and the new
1:05:53 I thought that the bringing in sort of
1:05:56 the boulders and the streams and the
1:05:58 trail were great but some of the water
1:06:00 features looked very modern
1:06:03 uh very uh which is a very modern feel
1:06:06 and I've just sort of felt a little bit
1:06:09 of Disconnect between the sort of a very
1:06:11 modernistic uh water feature with kind
1:06:16 bouldery Trail mountain type sense that
1:06:21 you're trying to establish again it's
1:06:23 hard to tell from the pictures these are
1:06:25 just thoughts that came up
1:06:27 uh Again Brad really kind of touched on
1:06:29 some things they were coming up for me
1:06:31 one was around maintenance what's the
1:06:35 projected annual maintenance for either
1:06:38 of these designs has that been looked at
1:06:40 how much will it take if kids are
1:06:43 throwing uh yeah you know there was a
1:06:46 place where I used to live that it was
1:06:48 routine where there was a water feature
1:06:50 for the kids to throw in a pack of like
1:06:53 bubbles so that you know once every
1:06:55 couple weeks you'd walk by and the whole
1:06:57 thing would be going bubbles going
1:06:59 everywhere
1:07:00 so that has to be cleaned out and you
1:07:03 know once somebody does it once it'll
1:07:05 become a thing
1:07:07 um so just that kind of idea
1:07:10 something else that
1:07:12 hasn't been mentioned yet and I'm
1:07:13 curious to know is parking if they're
1:07:17 increasing the desirability of being
1:07:19 there these designs how many parking
1:07:21 spaces are lost or created it's hard to
1:07:25 tell there was some talk about making
1:07:26 some disability parking more accessible
1:07:29 but overall is the we're seeing a net
1:07:33 loss of parking in the area or net gain
1:07:36 and I don't think there's any intention
1:07:38 of adding specific parking spaces so
1:07:41 again just something to think about
1:07:44 um so I think I'll stop there and
1:07:47 like I said big round of applause for
1:07:49 all the hard work that's been put into
1:07:53 attention thank you both Zach forgive me
1:07:59 feel Deb Amelia can you speak to that I
1:08:02 know I know at least initially as you
1:08:05 sort of turn these Concepts into those
1:08:07 3D looks
1:08:08 um those are pretty close to scale
1:08:10 aren't they
1:08:11 it's very it is deceiving
1:08:14 um it's we were surprised ourselves
1:08:16 um I think that when it's about 60 to 70
1:08:20 feet we still need to do the survey work
1:08:23 but um but the but this is coming from
1:08:26 you know scaling off of the aerial
1:08:29 photos I think is that right Amelia
1:08:32 yeah it's actually
1:08:33 um we're scaling both off of Ariel's
1:08:36 photos but also GIS data so we have we
1:08:39 have that data we know that uh these
1:08:42 drawings actually are at scale and I as
1:08:45 Deb said I think all of us the ad hoc
1:08:47 committee Parks all the design team we
1:08:51 were all really surprised and I think it
1:08:53 really speaks to uh the existing
1:08:55 pedestrian Park and really how all of
1:08:59 you know who've walked through it how
1:09:01 dark and kind of narrow and close off it
1:09:05 feels
1:09:06 um from the you know from the
1:09:10 intersection all the way through to
1:09:12 Depot Park so
1:09:14 um yes I complete
1:09:16 complete it is hard to believe
1:09:21 um and I think you know going back into
1:09:24 that space and you know pull these
1:09:26 drawings up on your phone and look at
1:09:28 um and and really think about how that
1:09:30 space Maps out and I think you may be
1:09:32 surprised um that to really realize how
1:09:35 much space there is to work with there
1:09:37 we're very excited about the opportunity
1:09:39 of that
1:09:41 that was a big odd problem at the Advent
1:09:43 committee I would say too I think this
1:09:45 is the first conversation
1:09:47 um I think it's just a Real Testament to
1:09:48 understanding like how design can really
1:09:50 shape a place right so I think we all
1:09:52 think that place is super narrow right
1:09:54 like I think it's like super narrow but
1:09:56 like you know they have the data to back
1:09:58 up how wide it is and you know what fits
1:10:01 in there so again I think it was one of
1:10:03 the bigger surprises from our group as
1:10:05 well and Tim and Brad
1:10:08 yes I was kind of smiling uh Brad and
1:10:11 Tim when you were offering your comments
1:10:13 because we went through this and I had
1:10:17 to go out there myself on a separate
1:10:19 trip to look at the area and you know
1:10:22 it's I've been tuned to the 3D model but
1:10:25 when you go out there then you realize
1:10:27 how poorly it's used now I guess is
1:10:30 really what the you know what we're
1:10:31 learning in this and uh because
1:10:34 one of the things for me was
1:10:37 um like I think about salmon days and I
1:10:39 think we've gone to Salmon days you know
1:10:41 20 times and we walk around we go either
1:10:44 the other way or the other way because
1:10:45 we don't even think of that it's a
1:10:47 thoroughfare it's like this little
1:10:48 narrow
1:10:50 you know utilita or something like that
1:10:52 so once you've seen it opened up uh and
1:10:55 these models is really pretty cool and
1:10:57 then I think when we first saw the table
1:10:59 I'd be in a table theme we thought
1:11:01 there's no way that's going to fit in
1:11:03 there and then methune took it back said
1:11:05 well what if we do this to it and they
1:11:07 did have you know for the modern and
1:11:09 historic balance topic methune did bring
1:11:13 in a couple different variations on that
1:11:15 where they rounded it the table part
1:11:17 some more and then I think the long
1:11:20 linear water feature they're sticking
1:11:23 with long and linear because that's
1:11:25 narrow for the concern we all have but
1:11:28 they were able to kind of create an
1:11:29 erratic face to it and so that was a an
1:11:32 interesting combination to try and
1:11:35 resolve both issues
1:11:37 so again Concepts we want to share but
1:11:40 again thank you Tim and and Brad and
1:11:42 thank you ad hoc it's it's re I mean
1:11:45 Place making has a way of of
1:11:48 taking the actual space and having it
1:11:52 feel bigger because right now it feels
1:11:54 and it feels narrower than it actually
1:11:59 and to the point of um
1:12:01 adding more natural features to some of
1:12:04 these elements you just mentioned it you
1:12:06 know creating on the and we spoke to the
1:12:09 um within about this is how do we
1:12:11 integrate natural features or color rock
1:12:14 or stone you know into the bottom of the
1:12:17 water features are on the face of a
1:12:20 water feature or how do we get those
1:12:22 erratics in there so even though there
1:12:25 may be some Modern elements we're still
1:12:27 trying to figure out ways to
1:12:29 soften it and bring in those natural
1:12:32 elements I also want to add to the Old
1:12:35 Town design
1:12:36 as we go through our permitting process
1:12:38 or are going to be Old Town design
1:12:40 standards which are already adopted that
1:12:44 we will be having to implement when we
1:12:46 pick out some of our features
1:12:48 um whether it's lighting or whether it's
1:12:53 colors things like that that we will
1:12:55 have to go through through the design
1:12:57 process or through the permitting
1:13:00 process so those have not all been 100
1:13:02 vetted because we are still in early
1:13:05 concept stage but we will be as we
1:13:07 refine the design we will be honing in
1:13:11 on some of those as well
1:13:14 so like how long would it take to make a
1:13:17 like you know renovate something like
1:13:19 this oh
1:13:24 I think David has a comment yeah and
1:13:25 then if you don't mind it I'll hold that
1:13:27 question okay
1:13:30 I agree
1:13:37 the first point I wanted to make is yes
1:13:40 we have Concepts and these are great I
1:13:42 love them both of them they all have
1:13:44 their broken cons but we also have to
1:13:46 think about designing for what this part
1:13:48 will be in 25 years or 50 years we don't
1:13:51 want to go back to the German language
1:13:52 to be like this thing looks dated right
1:13:55 that's the worst thing you can do you
1:13:56 walk into high schools and you see high
1:13:58 schools like Yep this was built in the
1:13:59 70s you know like that kind of thing so
1:14:01 that's one point I'd like to mention
1:14:03 um the second one is I know we
1:14:06 concentrate because I'm looking at The
1:14:08 Pedestrian Park area it's called
1:14:10 pedestrian Park and I noticed in these
1:14:13 designs that we have a wide Avenue
1:14:16 through these things and I kind of want
1:14:18 to get away from the idea that it's a
1:14:19 pedestrian park right so maybe I'm not
1:14:23 saying you should have a zigzag pattern
1:14:25 or anything like that but it seems like
1:14:26 the thoroughfare is really big
1:14:27 concentration here if we really want it
1:14:29 as a gathering space as places where
1:14:32 people meet let's not try to say okay
1:14:34 this is just something to walk right so
1:14:36 against the idea that that's not even
1:14:39 think of it past pedestrian it's another
1:14:40 part and so would you design a Roundup
1:14:43 like this or would you still do it with
1:14:46 a big thorough there right so those are
1:14:48 just my main two points
1:14:51 so balance it's the current its current
1:14:53 thought of just being a pastoring how do
1:14:55 we make it also uh
1:14:57 a place to linger right yeah
1:15:06 any other comments questions or am I
1:15:09 ready to go on to uh next steps
1:15:14 right
1:15:15 let me do a quick share again
1:15:23 whoops sorry uh so as far as next steps
1:15:27 with the project
1:15:29 um this Wednesday we're going to be
1:15:31 giving the senior center an update on
1:15:34 this project likely going through the
1:15:36 same presentation
1:15:38 um so just giving an opportunity to have
1:15:41 some one-on-one conversations
1:15:43 um when we and then on the 6th through
1:15:47 the 19th of this month we will be doing
1:15:49 an online survey
1:15:52 um we're going to be asking about adish
1:15:55 questions uh with an opportunity to
1:15:58 provide some feedback and you'll be
1:15:59 seeing a lot of the same graphics and
1:16:01 those questions
1:16:03 um that you were in this presentation
1:16:04 tonight
1:16:05 um no new surprises there and on the
1:16:09 seventh we are going to be having an
1:16:11 open house where really we can spend a
1:16:14 little more time conversing about all of
1:16:16 these the survey will be live
1:16:20 um instead of having some one-on-one
1:16:21 conversations
1:16:23 um presentation uh we'll have the design
1:16:25 team there Jeff and I will be there too
1:16:27 and hopefully admon committee will be
1:16:29 there as well to help really share
1:16:32 um the process and answer any questions
1:16:35 and really encourage folks to take the
1:16:38 online survey that'll be up for two
1:16:40 weeks but that open house will be held
1:16:42 at the Depot
1:16:44 um from 6 30 to 8 30 P.M
1:16:48 weather pending as well that evening
1:16:50 invite people to walk walk through the
1:16:52 spaces yes right and again sort of the
1:16:55 same idea of scale
1:16:57 start start seeing those spaces a little
1:16:59 bit differently again with this open
1:17:01 house being on the front end of that
1:17:03 survey so you know making sure anyone
1:17:05 who attends that realizes they don't
1:17:07 need to give this that open house isn't
1:17:09 their only time for comment it's really
1:17:11 come learn about it
1:17:13 you know walk it experience it and then
1:17:16 give us feedback on a survey
1:17:19 so these are just our immediate next
1:17:21 steps that are coming up
1:17:23 um I'm gonna actually jump to the
1:17:25 project schedule skip a slide real quick
1:17:27 so uh this is the same schedule that we
1:17:31 had shown back when we had been to
1:17:33 council as you can see we're starting to
1:17:34 check off a few steps through this
1:17:36 process
1:17:39 um right now we are in that design phase
1:17:42 and we're hoping to really try and
1:17:45 take these two concepts get enough
1:17:47 feedback from the community that we can
1:17:49 hone in on one preferred design that we
1:17:52 can then send out to the community and
1:17:54 say hey did we get this right and then
1:17:56 start working on our construction
1:17:58 documents um to get to your question
1:18:00 about timeline and how long does it take
1:18:03 um this is going to be a somewhat
1:18:05 accelerated project because of some of
1:18:07 the funding sources used we are having
1:18:09 to go through some of this process a
1:18:12 little quicker because we have
1:18:14 permitting and construction and this
1:18:16 project we're trying to get complete by
1:18:19 the end of
1:18:20 2024 full fully constructed so we're
1:18:24 hoping to do our be into design and
1:18:27 permitting the spring and summer and go
1:18:32 out to bid later this fall an award
1:18:36 Construction contract and starter
1:18:38 construction hopefully november-ish this
1:18:41 year which is a really kind of
1:18:44 accelerated time frame uh to get through
1:18:46 and give probably a year of construction
1:18:48 yeah one year we would be looking at
1:18:51 completion the end of the end of 2024
1:18:55 yeah beginning of 25. I guess like the
1:18:58 main thing that I was thinking about
1:18:59 when I you know ask them that is because
1:19:02 um most people want to go to the park
1:19:03 around like spring and summer time
1:19:05 because you know it's nice out and you
1:19:08 know it's not as cloudy and rainy as it
1:19:09 usually is
1:19:13 yeah but it's only gonna take a year I
1:19:15 think just closing those parts of the
1:19:17 theme
1:19:18 yeah we would put fencing up to keep the
1:19:21 site secure for folks to you know keep
1:19:24 them safe as well so yeah
1:19:28 oh hi bro
1:19:32 I guess one question regarding the
1:19:35 senior center they're really only
1:19:36 discussion was about the Pavilion which
1:19:38 looks great and I like it but is there
1:19:41 other things that are being suggested in
1:19:43 that that we just haven't seen yet
1:19:48 part of the survey that's going to be
1:19:50 going out we're gonna We want a little
1:19:51 more feedback as far as what types of
1:19:54 elements the seniors want to see out
1:19:57 there for their activity areas and
1:19:59 you're making a great segue to my next
1:20:02 slide go next my intention Jim
1:20:14 one of the visuals showed three ideas of
1:20:18 how we might
1:20:19 activate that park side of the senior
1:20:22 center and add activities so add you
1:20:26 know outdoor multi-generational space
1:20:29 you know Bocce space for cornhole raised
1:20:33 gardens so that that's definitely part
1:20:35 of this part of this project will be
1:20:38 part of the feedback that we want to get
1:20:40 is again how to
1:20:42 part of that relationship with the
1:20:44 senior center is let's let's encourage
1:20:46 outdoor senior activities that are part
1:20:48 of the park but also other activities
1:20:50 that are multi-generational that bring
1:20:52 Park users closer to the the senior
1:20:55 center so that'll be part of the survey
1:20:57 as Jen said
1:21:00 I I also wanted to mention that um when
1:21:03 you're out there looking at the senior
1:21:04 center and imagining these designs if
1:21:07 you see the um the sun what's now a
1:21:09 sunken Courtyard one of the ideas is
1:21:12 that that whole burned area would
1:21:15 actually come down to the same grade as
1:21:17 that door so that you could walk out of
1:21:19 the senior center and that Pavilion
1:21:21 would be right at the same level as the
1:21:24 senior center so that that burn would
1:21:26 basically you know go away would get
1:21:28 depressed and so um that really opens up
1:21:31 that area and connects it more to you
1:21:35 know more usable for the senior center
1:21:36 and Orient into the park
1:21:39 yeah and even on that
1:21:42 um east side of the senior center we'd
1:21:43 be removing the berm over in that area
1:21:46 as well to help really maximize some of
1:21:49 that Gathering space and areas
1:21:52 um as mentioned in my first slide on
1:21:55 funding
1:21:57 um you know we have about 3.2 of
1:21:59 American Rescue plan dollars that
1:22:01 Council authorize for this we do have
1:22:04 submitted we have submitted a
1:22:06 legislative ask uh for seven hundred
1:22:09 thousand dollars for this specific to
1:22:12 the senior center and activity areas so
1:22:15 we're really wanting to make sure that
1:22:17 you know the activities that we propose
1:22:19 over there are really serving the
1:22:22 seniors that um it's meant for
1:22:26 really that connection so
1:22:29 um anyways right now we have about 3.9
1:22:31 million
1:22:33 um for this project and we're working
1:22:35 with that and the budget as we can kind
1:22:38 of go through this process as well
1:22:44 um so
1:22:46 a little quick discussion here for
1:22:49 um the board just want to know if
1:22:51 there's any other additional questions
1:22:54 that you've had on the process to date
1:22:59 and any additional feedback you'd like
1:23:02 to provide on the two concepts uh that
1:23:04 are going to be presented to the
1:23:05 community next week
1:23:17 just unmute you Tim sorry that cornkey
1:23:22 there you go
1:23:23 I'm glad my wife doesn't have that kind
1:23:26 of control
1:23:30 um so my the thing that I was thinking
1:23:33 that in my mind I was trying to do and
1:23:34 it might be a good thing to do as you go
1:23:36 forward at some point is with the two
1:23:38 different designs put sort of like the
1:23:41 overall the high level views of them
1:23:43 side by side to each other so because
1:23:46 when I was looking at one I kept trying
1:23:47 to think what the other one looked like
1:23:50 um and just a suggestion at some point
1:23:53 that might be a useful way to present it
1:23:55 so people can really kind of compare and
1:23:57 contrast
1:23:58 that's all thank you when we do the
1:24:01 survey we will be um stacking some of
1:24:03 the images so they're easily uh compared
1:24:11 good suggestion
1:24:14 and then Friday see your fam is also up
1:24:19 uh thanks you know I like both of the
1:24:22 Valley Trail and the Creekside table I
1:24:24 guess I'd like to throw out a suggestion
1:24:26 that you could potentially merge them
1:24:28 together in some fashion I mean I think
1:24:30 that there's
1:24:32 good Pros to both Concepts and to just
1:24:36 say that it's one or the other it
1:24:38 doesn't maybe have to be that it could
1:24:40 maybe be a merging of the two
1:24:45 thanks and so we go through yeah we
1:24:48 still have ample flexibility for that
1:24:50 very thing yeah yeah to really let the
1:24:52 let the community feedback really help
1:24:55 inform what resonates with either
1:24:58 neither both
1:24:59 Etc along those lines I was thinking
1:25:02 about some of the community public
1:25:05 comments from a couple weeks ago I can't
1:25:06 remember exactly what the topic was but
1:25:08 this idea of survey and it sounds like
1:25:11 there's going to be a survey and going
1:25:12 out and curious if we might get a chance
1:25:17 speak into that or review it or provide
1:25:20 feedback on what what's going to be in
1:25:23 the survey and what we hope to to get
1:25:25 out of it
1:25:27 it sounds like there's been some
1:25:29 some controversy around surveys in the
1:25:32 past and if there's anything we can
1:25:33 learn there about crafting this morning
1:25:36 yeah the difference of opinions has
1:25:39 always exists yeah no no it's all good
1:25:42 it's all good
1:25:44 um yeah Our Hope in terms of getting
1:25:46 that survey out here right at the you
1:25:49 know in the next week or two
1:25:51 um as Jen said that you know the quest
1:25:54 we could certainly run the questions by
1:25:56 the ad hoc group and and get a quick
1:25:59 thumbnail on on
1:26:02 on how the questions are framed I think
1:26:05 what you'll hear is similar to our disc
1:26:07 really trying to
1:26:09 reflect the same discussion we had with
1:26:11 the ad hoc group right and sort of
1:26:13 starting that question what what
1:26:14 elements what themes of Issaquah do are
1:26:17 most important to you and then really
1:26:20 introducing these two concepts these two
1:26:22 refinements and really going through a
1:26:24 series of questions on what what
1:26:26 elements do you like in each one what
1:26:29 elements don't you like in each one
1:26:32 questions about the both you know the
1:26:34 water element uh the nature elements
1:26:38 um but play you know elements of of
1:26:40 recreational use around the senior
1:26:42 center
1:26:44 um so really a series of questions that
1:26:46 are are trying to do that thing not not
1:26:50 have this be a forced choice where you
1:26:52 have to pick all of this one or all of
1:26:54 that one but really drawing upon those
1:26:56 elements so why don't we I mean we could
1:26:58 certainly share that with the ad hoc
1:27:00 group and and get your thoughts
1:27:03 um on that and again you know just
1:27:06 looking at the the timeline ideally we
1:27:09 have the survey out ready to go I think
1:27:14 we were shooting for the sixth so the
1:27:15 day the day before the open house
1:27:18 and then open house on the seventh and
1:27:21 then having that survey remain open for
1:27:24 another nearly two weeks for folks to
1:27:27 respond
1:27:28 the one thing about the survey
1:27:31 um we worked with the design team to
1:27:32 kind of figure out what questions they
1:27:35 needed in order to move the design
1:27:37 forward but leaving it loose like we're
1:27:40 not getting into the nitty-gritties of
1:27:42 each element uh really asking for
1:27:45 opportunity for people to say then what
1:27:47 of this description or of this concept
1:27:49 do you really like in asking them to
1:27:51 provide that open response in some of
1:27:54 these questions as well because we're
1:27:57 also having to get this out for
1:27:59 translation in order to get it up on our
1:28:02 thing so we're really kind of wish for a
1:28:04 time but happy to send it out
1:28:07 um like I said Jeff really kind of
1:28:09 nailed the set of questions
1:28:12 um that are going to be out there but
1:28:13 I'll send it out to you first sounds
1:28:15 like it's good it's going in a good
1:28:17 direction anyway I was thinking maybe
1:28:19 one Concept in line of these Community
1:28:22 comments too like there's just anything
1:28:24 that we might be missing
1:28:26 um you know stuff that
1:28:28 said these people might bring to the
1:28:31 table that oh yeah that'd be a really
1:28:32 good consideration or something yeah so
1:28:36 there there are there will be and you'll
1:28:38 see opportunities for that other
1:28:40 right sort of what is missing yeah yep
1:28:43 great yeah the last question number nine
1:28:46 just really does what else do you want
1:28:49 to provide uh what other your other
1:28:51 thoughts
1:28:52 Marlene or so you're yeah I always say
1:28:55 this when we talk about surveys I'm just
1:28:57 in the blood record and say it again I
1:28:59 just wanted to make sure when we look at
1:29:00 the demographics of who took our survey
1:29:03 that we
1:29:04 see what type of statistical
1:29:06 significance we have across different
1:29:07 demographics I think it's hypothesis I
1:29:10 have that there's a lot of certain
1:29:12 groups that take these surveys and maybe
1:29:14 it'll put some younger folks who do not
1:29:15 take these surveys as often
1:29:17 um the other thing I might throw up
1:29:18 there is I know times of the essence but
1:29:21 would we um potentially think about
1:29:23 asking
1:29:24 um you know a member of the equity
1:29:25 committee to take a look at these
1:29:27 designs or be a little bit more involved
1:29:28 when you come to the open house or
1:29:31 um I was really I think in that last
1:29:32 meeting it was um I really appreciated
1:29:34 at the best point of view and so I
1:29:36 thought that might just be another
1:29:38 um group that we might want to reach out
1:29:40 to yeah no great points absolutely so as
1:29:42 as we've just this last week finalized
1:29:45 the use of the depot that night on this
1:29:47 and we will be inviting boards and
1:29:49 commission other boards and commission
1:29:51 members to be part of that open house
1:29:52 and absolutely
1:29:55 um and I've got Brenda have the question
1:29:57 I'm just gonna unmute you Brenda oh
1:29:59 sorry
1:30:02 oh there I am okay uh I'm sure I've just
1:30:06 missed it but I I want to clarify once
1:30:08 we get to the end of The Pedestrian Park
1:30:10 in my mind we get to a parking lot and
1:30:14 an area with a lot of dumpsters and it's
1:30:16 not at all appealing and it doesn't and
1:30:19 I just don't know how you're working
1:30:20 your way through there
1:30:22 yeah that's a great question
1:30:25 um really good point I think in the long
1:30:27 term what we've discussed in future
1:30:29 phases is a raised crosswalk and
1:30:33 um something where the paving is
1:30:35 continuous and takes you all the way
1:30:36 through Depot Park to the senior center
1:30:39 I think in this phase
1:30:42 um we're looking at different ways of
1:30:44 screening that loading area that might
1:30:47 include fences it might include a more
1:30:50 dense planting area and some seating so
1:30:53 we've also looking at seating with um
1:30:56 you know with backs that might you know
1:30:58 Orient people away from those areas in
1:31:01 terms of the view
1:31:02 um but uh that's I think that is one of
1:31:05 the design uh challenges that we're
1:31:08 going to want to make sure we're
1:31:09 addressing so thanks for bringing that
1:31:11 up right and I'm thrilled with the uh
1:31:14 crosswalker or having something to go
1:31:17 over the parking lot but for now or
1:31:20 before we get it
1:31:21 what is the you know you get them to the
1:31:24 end of this and they have their baby
1:31:26 carriages and children and dogs in hand
1:31:28 are they to walk across the street and
1:31:31 how are they to get to the depot
1:31:35 I think there are curb ranks there now
1:31:37 so you can
1:31:40 um you can wheel your stroller and you
1:31:43 know there's accessibility through there
1:31:46 um it's it's uh uh I think that's a good
1:31:49 a good you know way wayfinding aspect
1:31:53 too just to keep in mind you know so
1:31:55 people are comfortable Crossing there
1:31:58 but it is accessible
1:32:00 yeah and I just wanted to add we are
1:32:02 studying still
1:32:04 um the possibility of if if in this
1:32:08 phase it's not possible to do a raised a
1:32:10 tabletop crosswalk at least doing some
1:32:12 type of streets painting or some other
1:32:15 type of treatment that's really going to
1:32:17 enhance that Crossing so it's very clear
1:32:19 to folks driving through the parking
1:32:20 area that this is an important Crossing
1:32:22 and so that it's important it's clear to
1:32:25 folks Crossing where is the appropriate
1:32:27 place to cross
1:32:29 yeah it's a really great question and
1:32:31 point Brenda and I think really
1:32:32 emphasizes
1:32:34 anytime you're facing Park improvements
1:32:37 right phase one you you need to do it in
1:32:40 a way that it's going to live
1:32:41 successfully on its own but it's also
1:32:44 setting the table haha Creekside table
1:32:46 what um race table any kind of table
1:32:50 um for future phases so you know to some
1:32:53 of the questions I heard earlier we're
1:32:54 not planning on removing existing
1:32:57 parking right now
1:32:59 um we are
1:33:01 um I think we need to recognize that's
1:33:03 not a street we're not having to cross a
1:33:06 street that is that is a that's not
1:33:08 public right-of-way that's just that's a
1:33:10 parking lot so how we manage
1:33:14 um getting people through safely uh that
1:33:17 parking area I think to your point
1:33:19 Brenda about you know so much of this
1:33:21 space feels like the back of house of
1:33:24 restaurants
1:33:26 um I think it's interesting and it's
1:33:28 been positive and that is Jennifer and I
1:33:30 have met with the two restaurants
1:33:31 adjacent to pedestrian Park uh both are
1:33:35 really excited about this and both
1:33:38 immediately in the first conversation
1:33:40 we're like oh my gosh I I want my
1:33:42 restaurant to relate to that this
1:33:44 doesn't feel like this doesn't feel like
1:33:46 the side yard anymore I I need to clean
1:33:48 up my ACT I I mean so you're going to
1:33:51 have the adjacent restaurants wanting to
1:33:53 I think treat that have a relationship
1:33:56 to this public space and in a in a much
1:33:59 different way in a much more positive
1:34:00 way so
1:34:04 a couple couple comments there
1:34:08 sorry we have around 30 minutes over
1:34:14 because now we've got an upcoming open
1:34:17 house survey and uh thank you all
1:34:20 especially the attic for your time and
1:34:23 diligence and input through this whole
1:34:25 process it has been great working with
1:34:34 Zach we have a member from the public
1:34:37 Dave Wagner has his hand up would you be
1:34:40 open to a quick comment from the public
1:34:42 that's a question a question from the
1:34:44 public sure yes that's fine
1:34:49 thank you yeah yeah that'd be great if
1:34:53 you don't mind that being awesome thank
1:34:55 you so much this goes back to one of the
1:34:58 slides please forgive me
1:35:01 so that one box said relocate Memorial
1:35:06 and white pool so the question all of us
1:35:09 would have is
1:35:11 who's making that decision to relocate
1:35:14 that Memorial
1:35:15 is it the pork board that would then
1:35:18 relocated
1:35:20 get that the design says it is it the
1:35:23 city council that says relocate that
1:35:27 um and if it's done where does it get
1:35:30 relocated who has the call on that
1:35:34 relocation
1:35:35 hopefully you'll figure that in your
1:35:38 timing until thank you well thank you if
1:35:41 I I can respond to that and I think give
1:35:43 some context and and Deb thank you for
1:35:45 mentioning what you did in the concept
1:35:52 um rendering that made that note was a
1:35:57 really quick sketch that was done last
1:36:01 um in before any of this sort of
1:36:03 planning and thought process so
1:36:07 um as we're working on these Concepts
1:36:12 we're not we're not we're not under
1:36:14 these
1:36:16 we're on the under the assumption of it
1:36:18 how does that Memorial flagpole become a
1:36:21 really key element to this public space
1:36:24 um to your question if if it was
1:36:27 determined to be moved
1:36:31 I guess that would start with a
1:36:33 collective conversation a collective
1:36:35 decision as part of the design process
1:36:38 um you have my commitment to make sure
1:36:41 VFW is part of those conversations as
1:36:44 we're now heading into the public
1:36:45 discussion about these two off these two
1:36:48 options and and the feedback we get back
1:36:51 from that
1:36:53 um ultimately like any Capital project a
1:36:57 design gets done
1:36:59 that design
1:37:00 the only way that that project gets
1:37:04 awarded is it goes back to city council
1:37:06 to award it to construct right so
1:37:09 there's mult I guess multiple decision
1:37:11 points in any single element of a of a
1:37:15 park design like this much like a a a
1:37:18 decision of
1:37:20 keeping a memorial day or not but again
1:37:23 to emphasize super early conceptual that
1:37:28 again was probably really premature in
1:37:31 making that point in the fall when we
1:37:34 were talking with Council but now as
1:37:36 we're into design options
1:37:38 um I think all of those design options
1:37:40 that you saw tonight that we've talked
1:37:42 about
1:37:44 have the ability to keep to have the
1:37:46 memorial and the flagpole stay right
1:37:48 where it is
1:37:51 just to add I think if anything we also
1:37:55 it to be more engaging than it is write
1:37:57 it down and the ability to get closer
1:37:59 read it better and give it a little more
1:38:02 honor than the space
1:38:05 so as that you know those are some of
1:38:09 the considerations we're also looking at
1:38:12 it's a proven yeah just so you know that
1:38:15 if you want to know how where any of
1:38:19 those people died I'm more than happy to
1:38:21 give you that information
1:38:23 I appreciate that David
1:38:25 well it's good today it sounds like it
1:38:28 was moved in the early 90s to its
1:38:30 current location
1:38:31 yeah okay
1:38:33 I'll play now thank you
1:38:37 faster bedtime so would it be okay if we
1:38:41 left the mid-year the next part of the
1:38:43 year please
1:38:44 thank you so much for coming today
1:38:51 thank you
1:39:10 thank you
1:39:14 foreign
1:39:24 with that Devin Amelia I think you guys
1:39:27 can exit too
1:39:30 so thank you very much it's been such a
1:39:32 pleasure
1:39:34 we're really looking forward to having
1:39:35 more conversations
1:39:49 I'm gonna go back
1:39:54 so Zach I think I think the next item up
1:39:57 is the the six years
1:40:01 process do I have that right yes yes the
1:40:04 six years CIP criteria follow-up
1:40:09 I'm not sure like what the current time
1:40:11 constraints um so I suppose
1:40:14 um should we see gauge interest on uh
1:40:18 continuing past the time or moving it to
1:40:21 the next meeting
1:40:23 yeah it's a great question Zach I guess
1:40:25 I would suggest this I you know thank
1:40:27 you to those of you at six Park board
1:40:29 members attend the special meeting uh
1:40:32 last week no two weeks ago time flies on
1:40:36 the on the 16th
1:40:38 um the intention of that was really a a
1:40:41 very early touch in a six-year Capital
1:40:43 Improvement plan the six-year CIP
1:40:45 process
1:40:47 really looking at and focusing on how
1:40:51 how staff goes about evaluating capital
1:40:54 projects and the the
1:40:57 criteria with which all capital projects
1:41:00 will be screened
1:41:03 minutes from that will be released soon
1:41:08 perhaps we wait until March to have a
1:41:11 conversation about what uh it's it's
1:41:14 clear the proposed draft concepts are
1:41:16 going or criteria sorry I got to get
1:41:19 back into this topic the criteria are
1:41:21 going to be amended based upon the
1:41:22 feedback from the four boards and
1:41:24 commissions that night I think by our
1:41:26 March meeting we'll have sort of that
1:41:28 the draft changes to that criteria we
1:41:31 can bring that and we'll also I think be
1:41:33 able to bring a little more Focus as to
1:41:37 what the actual cfp process will look
1:41:39 like at that March meeting
1:41:44 okay uh seems like
1:41:47 um perhaps the best course of action
1:41:48 would be to hold off on that uh update
1:41:51 until the March meeting
1:41:53 let's do it yeah okay
1:41:56 all right
1:41:59 um so I guess we'll move on to the
1:42:01 reports
1:42:05 so we'll start with uh with my
1:42:09 chairperson report so I have three
1:42:12 things
1:42:14 all right uh so uh Washington
1:42:16 conservation crew uh are in Issaquah for
1:42:19 a seven-week partnership with the city
1:42:21 uh in the first week uh planted 963
1:42:25 native trees 244 native plants and
1:42:28 removed uh 7 200 square feet of invasive
1:42:31 plants from five different Parks
1:42:35 also there is a a green Issaquah
1:42:37 restoration work party at uh burnson
1:42:41 park that's on March 18th at uh from
1:42:45 nine to noon
1:42:46 and um on the city newsletter there's a
1:42:51 Soil and Water stewardship program
1:42:53 opportunity this includes a nine month
1:42:56 training in sustainable food production
1:42:59 and environmental stewardship uh
1:43:02 applications are due by March 3rd and
1:43:05 that's on the Tilt website so if
1:43:07 anyone's interested in that there's I
1:43:09 know they'll be having some a hybrid of
1:43:12 in-person and
1:43:15 um in on specific locations as well so
1:43:20 if you're interested that's available to
1:43:22 sign up for as well
1:43:23 um so moving on to the uh youth Advisory
1:43:29 Board update
1:43:36 event called Civic engagement I don't
1:43:39 know if the previous two reps who came
1:43:41 talked about this or not but they we did
1:43:44 not attend the event but we heard that
1:43:45 it went really well they had speakers
1:43:47 coming from all over
1:43:50 um you know come talk about how ways uh
1:43:52 people who are not in the youth Advisory
1:43:54 board can come you know still engage in
1:43:56 you know Community related things and
1:43:59 events as such
1:44:01 honest and that's it for civic
1:44:03 engagement
1:44:04 um and we actually have an upcoming
1:44:06 event I think it's next Friday
1:44:09 um it's Harry Potter night and we've
1:44:11 talked about it before we just had like
1:44:14 a bunch of like Harry Potter related
1:44:15 stations for kids first to fifth grade
1:44:19 just like a couple hours with us in the
1:44:21 community center
1:44:23 uh yeah it's like arts and crafts like
1:44:26 me and stuff like that
1:44:34 a variant uh next there's another event
1:44:38 which is being called state of mind and
1:44:41 even though we're not part of you know
1:44:43 that you know division that works on
1:44:45 state of mind
1:44:47 um basically what happens is that they
1:44:49 have speakers come in they talk about
1:44:51 important issues like uh Teen Mental
1:44:54 Health and mindfulness and it's really
1:44:57 just a big giant um
1:45:01 and I wouldn't want to say a lecture but
1:45:03 more of like an informational talk where
1:45:06 you know where people can learn about
1:45:08 those things
1:45:09 and then our last and biggest event of
1:45:11 the year is that it's a kids triathlon
1:45:14 it's um June 4th I believe and I mean
1:45:17 it's just a triathlon
1:45:20 all throughout
1:45:22 um and around the support Community
1:45:24 Center so when you start to like work on
1:45:26 that divide into teams and yeah
1:45:30 and then I would like to add is that
1:45:32 we're also looking for some speakers
1:45:34 uh I as like a sort of side thing I
1:45:38 started bringing the speakers from you
1:45:41 know uh outside uh you know just around
1:45:44 the Issaquah community and you know just
1:45:47 from youth boards from not youth boards
1:45:49 from uh commissions and things to come
1:45:51 speak to uh the board about okay what
1:45:54 what do they do how do you help Issaquah
1:45:57 and how you're connecting with the
1:45:58 community if the park board is
1:46:00 interesting interested in having one of
1:46:03 the board members come talk at one of
1:46:05 the meetings then
1:46:07 yeah just just let us know
1:46:10 and that's it that's
1:46:13 great thank you
1:46:18 thanks and uh Jeff
1:46:20 great thanks Zach um to add to the to
1:46:24 two of the upcoming events uh that that
1:46:27 um the youth board is helping host with
1:46:29 the recreation team the state of mind
1:46:31 conference is really impactful
1:46:34 um if I'm not mistaken that's
1:46:36 um invitation for both students and
1:46:39 parents and really the entire Community
1:46:41 is is invited to attend this event it's
1:46:45 something that's been done for a number
1:46:46 of years typically really well attended
1:46:49 and I think as we all know coming out of
1:46:52 a global pandemic
1:46:55 mental health amongst our teens is a
1:46:58 really really important timely topic I
1:47:01 do remember last year they did Host this
1:47:03 online and even though it wasn't you
1:47:05 know like in person and you know you
1:47:07 weren't talking with that person like
1:47:09 face to face I went and I did go online
1:47:11 it was they had some very nice things to
1:47:14 say you know
1:47:41 foreign
1:48:49 foreign
1:49:11 [Music]
1:49:20 [Music]
1:49:28 so State of Mind is uh important for
1:49:31 people and laptops um no so thank you
1:49:34 for for just the importance of that of
1:49:38 um conference and then the the uh is
1:49:41 Triathlon has really turned into quite
1:49:43 an event
1:49:44 um hundreds hundreds of participants so
1:49:47 a really fun day
1:49:49 um I'll make sure as Park board members
1:49:51 um just send you a reminder and if
1:49:53 you've got if you want to spend an hour
1:49:54 on a Saturday morning getting inspired
1:49:57 um come come check out the community
1:49:59 center that morning
1:50:01 as for my report a couple of couple of
1:50:04 quick updates
1:50:06 now that we've got a little battery life
1:50:07 left in the laptop
1:50:09 um Jen mentioned this earlier so the
1:50:12 other community investment project at
1:50:13 Confluence Park the eckhouse that work
1:50:16 has been
1:50:17 um get being done in Earnest as well
1:50:20 um more in terms of continued site
1:50:22 analysis and structural analysis of the
1:50:26 building we should be at a point with
1:50:28 the consultant team or we're really much
1:50:30 better informed as to the state and
1:50:32 condition of the current house and
1:50:34 understand options that we have before
1:50:36 us I think I mentioned earlier in one of
1:50:40 our meetings we've already engaged the
1:50:42 King County historic preservation group
1:50:46 they're circled into this desire and
1:50:49 interest we have and how do we
1:50:51 how do we activate that that building
1:50:55 and that space and also take opportunity
1:50:58 to celebrate its history and weave
1:51:01 history into a a workable functionable
1:51:04 or functional amenity within the Park so
1:51:07 plan on that being a March Topic at our
1:51:11 at our next Park board meeting
1:51:13 you'll you'll note
1:51:16 as this agenda as well as all future
1:51:19 agendas under the park director report
1:51:22 you're going to notice an attachment
1:51:23 there when you get the agenda that is as
1:51:26 I mentioned earlier just the working
1:51:27 calendar that we are sort of weaving
1:51:31 into our work plan that will be a
1:51:35 calendar you'll see that will evolve
1:51:37 throughout the year as we get a tighter
1:51:40 idea of when and where projects are in
1:51:44 certain points for key conversations
1:51:48 um at our at our future Park board
1:51:50 meetings
1:51:52 uh another quick update a couple months
1:51:55 back Amy Dukes joined us
1:51:58 um the work that the art commission is
1:52:00 doing on the northwest troll hunt
1:52:02 um if you remember International artist
1:52:04 Thomas dambo has identified uh the
1:52:08 Seattle area as having a number of
1:52:10 trolls throughout the Puget Sound region
1:52:13 Issaquah remains of a high interest to
1:52:16 Thomas I think I mentioned to to you all
1:52:19 we'd reached out to the Snoqualmie tribe
1:52:22 to gauge their interest in this work
1:52:25 um I'm happy to say last month we had an
1:52:28 initial meeting with with all those
1:52:29 groups Thomas dambo came earlier in
1:52:33 February to visit a number of sites
1:52:35 including Issaquah we hosted Thomas some
1:52:38 members some artists from the Snoqualmie
1:52:40 tribe joined in that brainstorming
1:52:42 session a really really good discussion
1:52:45 about where the location of Patrol would
1:52:48 be here in Issaquah and what some of the
1:52:50 artistic elements would look like
1:52:53 um Thomas is is back in his home country
1:52:57 now but we look forward to in the coming
1:52:59 weeks getting a little better sense of
1:53:01 some Concepts as they're again working
1:53:04 that through at the art commission but
1:53:05 as that's probably going to be located
1:53:07 in one of our public parks I'll be sure
1:53:10 to keep you all as Park Board informed
1:53:13 in that really exciting exciting work
1:53:17 um a lot of support a lot of interest
1:53:19 from a lot of different
1:53:20 um Community groups as well as uh the
1:53:24 the tribe and and um
1:53:26 and just what that what that piece could
1:53:28 look like this summer
1:53:32 another quick update uh one of our staff
1:53:37 hires this year is an urban Forest
1:53:39 supervisor
1:53:40 I'm happy to report that we have an
1:53:45 offer and an acceptance from a candidate
1:53:47 I'm not ready to announce the name yet
1:53:50 but we are really really excited and
1:53:52 should have that Urban Forest supervisor
1:53:55 on board here towards the end of March I
1:53:59 think March 20th right now is the the
1:54:01 start date so hopefully in our March
1:54:03 meeting we'll have a staff introduction
1:54:06 and I know the park operations team our
1:54:09 Park maintenance team is really excited
1:54:11 about
1:54:12 adding that element and that skill set
1:54:14 to our uh to our department team so I'm
1:54:19 really excited as you know on our work
1:54:22 plan is not only really initiating the
1:54:27 city's first urban Forest management
1:54:29 plan uh the supervisor will help lead
1:54:31 that effort but also taking that
1:54:34 long-awaited needed review and look at
1:54:37 our heritage Street program so thank you
1:54:40 I know a number of you at our last
1:54:41 meeting a volunteered to serve on an ad
1:54:44 hoc group for urban forestry so as that
1:54:47 position comes on board that group will
1:54:49 probably be ready to get started here in
1:54:52 April or May with uh a series of some
1:54:55 meetings more to come there
1:54:58 lastly exciting news I know you all love
1:55:02 to meet so much we have we do have
1:55:05 another special meeting opportunity in
1:55:07 March the environmental board would like
1:55:10 to have a joint meeting with the park
1:55:14 board the primary purpose for this is
1:55:17 the King County Flood Control District
1:55:19 and if you're familiar with King County
1:55:21 part of
1:55:23 Willard Water Resource Land Management
1:55:26 Department
1:55:29 has a floodplain management group
1:55:32 they've been doing some research and
1:55:34 Analysis on Issaquah Creek that they
1:55:36 want to come and provide a little bit
1:55:39 more of a detailed report to and so
1:55:41 March 16th Thursday March 16th
1:55:45 a joint meeting has been confirmed I
1:55:48 hope most or all of you are able to
1:55:51 attend that meeting will probably be a
1:55:53 mix of in person and virtual
1:55:56 options so hasanti thank you I know
1:56:00 you'll be sending out a whole date has
1:56:02 already been sent out but we got
1:56:03 confirmation that that meeting is is
1:56:05 really real also be a chance I know the
1:56:08 environmental board's interested in
1:56:09 getting some updates on a couple of our
1:56:11 Park projects uh that I think I'll I'll
1:56:13 be providing uh an update on that night
1:56:15 as well so
1:56:19 mark your calendars
1:56:21 and that's it for me
1:56:29 there's an open house again not all of
1:56:31 you are that's not that won't be an
1:56:33 official Park board meeting but as Park
1:56:35 board members certainly would love to
1:56:37 have you
1:56:38 um have you be there is there any
1:56:40 considerations there in terms of uh
1:56:43 the critical mass
1:56:46 good good question
1:56:48 um yeah we probably don't want everybody
1:56:50 to go
1:56:52 um if if that's not to say if if
1:56:57 more than five of you are there just
1:56:59 don't
1:57:01 don't go around together you're there as
1:57:03 you're there as residents right
1:57:07 it's not an it's not an official meeting
1:57:11 um and we will not be doing any official
1:57:14 artboard business that night yeah it's
1:57:17 discussion only yeah is that anything
1:57:19 question about the trolls yes
1:57:23 at your convenience probably not tonight
1:57:27 because we're out of time would you be
1:57:29 willing to provide us with a little bit
1:57:31 of um
1:57:32 I guess guidance and perspective on this
1:57:35 so it sounds like it's a really cool
1:57:39 part of it is some mystery or maybe
1:57:44 absence of mapping or you know like how
1:57:47 much should we how much is to be
1:57:50 revealed and how much more spoilers the
1:57:52 fun and the Mystery of it you know like
1:57:54 there's a troll somewhere in his spot
1:57:56 but doesn't have to be matched or we
1:58:00 know exactly where it is yeah great
1:58:02 great point I think as we learn more
1:58:05 from the Artist as to what this hunt
1:58:07 will look like I I do think
1:58:11 um as it gets more and I don't think
1:58:14 it'll be necessarily A
1:58:16 oh my gosh
1:58:18 um we need to keep it you know a secret
1:58:22 um oh yeah yeah I think I think it's
1:58:26 known right you know that that we are
1:58:28 looking at and trying to identify the
1:58:31 right place
1:58:33 I think the artist will just the
1:58:36 location itself is again not meant to be
1:58:39 shrouded in history but I think spending
1:58:42 time with the artists that a couple
1:58:43 weeks ago I think it's more about the
1:58:45 The Whimsy of even though it's going to
1:58:48 be known where it is
1:58:51 how can it entail some sort of uh
1:58:53 connect a walk into nature to get to it
1:58:57 it's not it's not something desire to be
1:59:01 experienced from your car
1:59:02 right
1:59:05 the trouble could be anywhere from it
1:59:09 varies based on the location and what
1:59:12 he's inspired by in the story that
1:59:14 generally fairly large 10 to 40 feet
1:59:25 I mean big 20-foot December instructions
1:59:30 right yeah
1:59:33 thank you for that Chris
1:59:41 so that's it for me thanks Zach great
1:59:43 thanks Jeff uh any other announcements
1:59:48 all right well uh next meeting will be
1:59:51 March 27th uh so everybody have a great
1:59:54 evening
1:59:56 thank you big thanks to this too
1:59:59 I.T expert and troubled and
2:00:02 troubleshooter yeah
2:00:07 good night all
2:00:10 right
2:00:15 yes it was very cool Under Pressure yeah
2:00:17 that was like you know

Attendance

Council / Members (9)
Zach Szablewski, Chair (Virtual)
Marlene Waxse
Chris Kovac
David Liu
Brenda Spears (Virtual)
Tim Motely (Virtual)
Danielle Wolfrom Githens
Bradley Book
Andrew Myers
Staff (16)
Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services Director
Jennifer Fink, Park Planning and Project Administrator
Hasanthi Piyasena, Business Operations Specialist
Sanvi Madan, Youth Board Representative
Arsheya Thakkar, Youth Board Representative
Amelia Jensen, Mithun Consultant Team
(Virtual)
Debra Guenther, Mithun Consultant Team
(Virtual)
Roberta Waggoner, Community Member
David Waggoner, Community Member
Bill Bradfield, Community Member
JP Doyle, Community Member
John Arnold, Community Member
Ivan Lee, Community Member
Diane Lee, Community Member
Excused
Andrew Eliquen
Nicholas Lee
Katie Bell

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  • a) Minutes of January 23, 2023 There being no corrections, the minutes were approved as presented.