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Wednesday, May 20, 2026

6:30 PM · 1h 37m
Topics tracked across meetings:
Joint Human Services Commission Equity Training Workshop Follow Up 9/9
2027-2028 Human Services Grant Application Process Commissioner Check-In (D) 4/4
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3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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Minutes of April 15, 2026
packet pp.3–4
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 04-15-26 Human Services Commission Minutes CITY OF ISSAQUAH Human Services Commission 6:30 PM Steelhead Room, 235 1st Ave. April 15, 2026 MINUTES SE, Issaquah
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Minutes of May 12, 2026
packet pp.5
Staff report:
REDMOND HUMAN SERVICES SPECIAL JOINT COMMISSION EQUITY TRAINING Tuesday, May 12, 2026 – 5:00 pm
4. AGENDA ITEMS
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Joint Human Services Commission Equity Training Workshop Follow Up
30 min · Jaime Fajardo, Human Services Commissioner Chair · packet pp.7–13
Topics: Equity
Staff report:
2027-2028 Human Services Grants- Application Overview and Check-In MAY 20, 2026 HUMAN SERVICES COMMISSION MEETING
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2027-2028 Human Services Grant Application Process Commissioner Check-In (D)
30 min · Brenda Parker, Human Services Manager
Topics: EquityBoards & Commissions
5. REPORTS
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Chair and Commissioner Reports
Topics: Boards & Commissions
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Youth Report
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Staff Report
0:06 Okay good.
0:07 >> All right, welcome to Human Services
0:09 Commission here uh Wednesday, May 20th.
0:12 We got time at 6:32.
0:15 Um we're going to call to order and I
0:18 also want to welcome a few of our new
0:21 commissioner members, Micah and
0:22 Danielle. Uh so welcome, welcome. Um, I
0:26 think we have everybody except but the
0:29 excuse of Preston
0:31 and then we're going to wait for Human
0:34 might join in a few minutes. And so
0:37 online in terms of commissioner, we have
0:39 Matteline. Hello. Good afternoon. And
0:42 then we have Commissioner Mory as well.
0:45 >> Hi. Hi.
0:47 >> Welcome. Welcome. Uh, we're going to go
0:50 into order. Uh we have a we we have a
0:52 pretty good agenda today and uh the
0:55 first thing we're going to go into is
0:57 public comment. We have a few folks from
0:59 our community and I want to give the
1:02 space for public comment and we have
1:05 about three minutes per if you all
1:08 there's is there an order you want to
1:09 have or
1:11 >> up to them. Um anyone want to volunteer
1:14 to go first?
1:16 >> Okay. Yeah. if you want to sit or come.
1:19 >> Go ahead and silent and then just
1:20 introduce yourself.
1:22 >> So, thank you. First of all, good
1:24 evening. My name is I serve on the board
1:28 of the Sophia Way and at Sophia Way, we
1:30 actually serve the women who are
1:32 experiencing homelessness in the east
1:34 side including the Isakua uh community.
1:37 So um in the past year alone uh more
1:41 than 500 women accessed our services and
1:44 over 140 were supported into stable
1:47 housing. Uh these are women navigating
1:49 extremely low incomes as you can imagine
1:52 uh trauma and complex barriers who with
1:55 our right support are able to stabilize
1:57 and be care. Uh our work spans a
2:01 comprehensive continuum to of care
2:03 including emergency shelters, a resource
2:06 center we have in Belleview, uh vehicle
2:10 outreach and uh transitional housing
2:13 plus the permanent supportive housing uh
2:16 grounded in our three core pillars,
2:17 shelter, safety and stability. We
2:20 empower women with the resources,
2:22 support systems and confidence needed to
2:25 move forward uh towards uh long term of
2:28 independence. Uh our mission is streng
2:31 strengthened by the community
2:33 engagement. Volunteers, donors and
2:35 partners play a critical role in
2:37 providing mentorship, connection and
2:40 sustained support helping women rebuild
2:42 their lives with dignity, hope and sense
2:44 of belonging. uh every day we see that
2:48 homelessness for women is not simply
2:50 about the absence of housing. It is
2:53 about the need for consistent trauma
2:56 informed care and a clear supported path
2:58 forward. Uh that is why Sophia focuses
3:01 not only on the emergency response but
3:03 on enabling long-term stability through
3:06 housing uh solutions, support services
3:09 and strong community partnerships. Uh we
3:12 know that women uh have uh have
3:15 stability, a safe place to sleep, access
3:18 to food, consistent support and a path
3:20 forward and they are able to heal,
3:22 regain confidence and achieve
3:24 independence if we support from all the
3:26 communities that that they are coming
3:28 from. As we look forward based on our
3:30 projections, we request consideration
3:33 for approximately $100,000 in funding
3:36 for F2027.
3:38 This support would directly enable us to
3:40 serve approximately 10% of the women
3:43 from Isakawa community to access our
3:46 shelters and vehicle outreach programs.
3:48 Thank you for your time leadership and
3:51 your continued partnership. Thank you so
3:53 much and any questions?
3:58 >> Any questions from the group?
4:00 Well, thank you so much for taking time
4:03 to inter.
4:05 >> Thank you. So nice to meet you.
4:07 capacity. I missid
4:16 hear me. Okay. Yes. Um, good evening,
4:19 commissioners. My name is Heidi Stalber.
4:21 I work at Kindering, which is a
4:23 nonprofit serving more than 3,300
4:26 children with diverse needs and their
4:29 families each year, including more than
4:31 200 in Isaac each year. Thank you for
4:34 helping us support families navigating
4:36 economic hardship, immigration
4:39 challenges, and child care issues. In
4:42 our free child care and preschool
4:44 consultation program, we address
4:46 inequities in early learning by
4:49 partnering with child care and preschool
4:51 providers to help them successfully
4:53 serve children of all backgrounds and
4:56 abilities. We also support the child
4:58 care workforce through provider
5:01 education and training. We regularly
5:04 visit child carees and preschools in
5:06 Isiqua, including larger center-based
5:09 programs, family home child carees,
5:12 church-based preschools, and bilingual
5:15 programs conducted in Spanish or
5:17 Mandarin. We see children from the full
5:20 range of income levels and ethnicities.
5:23 As an example of our work, one Isqua
5:26 child care provider recently came to us
5:28 for help with a child whose behavior
5:30 created serious safety concerns. The
5:33 child often ran out of the classroom,
5:36 climbed the shelves, or put small
5:38 objects in her mouth. The staff were so
5:41 overwhelmed by trying to supervise this
5:43 child while managing the rest of the
5:45 class that the director worried some
5:48 might leave their jobs. Our team helped
5:50 the teachers create a safer environment
5:53 to support the child's sensory needs and
5:56 recommended a developmental evaluation
5:58 free of charge so that the child could
6:00 access special support. The director
6:03 said that our support helped the child
6:05 be quote more at ease and safe in the
6:08 environment and greatly relieved the
6:10 stress of the teaching staff. Overall
6:14 last year, 96% of the children served
6:17 through CCPC, the child care and
6:19 preschool consultation team, avoided
6:22 expulsion from their school program.
6:26 Family uh Kindering's families in
6:28 transition program called also called
6:30 FIT FIT supports children and families
6:34 experiencing homelessness, poverty,
6:37 domestic violence, and immigration
6:39 challenges. Every child in FIT also has
6:42 a developmental delay. We provide
6:45 developmental evaluations, pediatric
6:48 therapies, infant mental health
6:50 services, case management, and
6:53 connection to basic needs such as
6:55 housing, food, and employment. Families
6:58 are served where they live or where they
7:00 feel most comfortable meeting us,
7:03 whether in a shelter, in their car, in a
7:05 friend's home, or in a park or community
7:08 center.
7:10 Last year, 88% of the children in the
7:13 families and transition program made
7:15 measurable progress toward their
7:17 developmental goals. In closing,
7:20 Hindering is grateful for the
7:21 opportunity to address the child care,
7:24 developmental, and basic needs of
7:26 families in the Isakqua community. Thank
7:28 you for your time today and for
7:30 considering our application. and I'm
7:33 happy to answer any questions if there
7:34 are any.
7:38 >> All right. Well, thank you.
7:42 >> Hi. My turn. Yes.
7:44 >> I'm J Longoria with Domestic Violence
7:46 Survivors. Um I'm a domestic violence
7:49 survivor myself, uh who fled to this
7:51 city 20 years ago seeking shelter and
7:55 help and all kinds of stuff. Um and so I
7:58 know firsthand what it's like to be in
8:00 this city and need help. Um along that
8:03 journey, I kind of realized that through
8:05 my healing, there are some things that
8:07 were missing, gaps and holes that could
8:09 be filled with services. Um and so
8:11 that's where why I developed my
8:13 nonprofit organization. Um and we had
8:16 our first year of funding with you guys
8:17 last year or last cycle. Um we're asking
8:21 for a considerably larger amount this
8:23 year because there's been
8:26 excess need that we couldn't support. Um
8:29 and we would love to. We feel that we
8:31 have the capability to support uh more
8:33 people and would love to do so. Um
8:36 services that we offer are hotel
8:39 vouchers for immediate housing needs,
8:41 medium and long-term rental assistance,
8:43 cell phones for those escaping violent
8:46 uh relationships and have no access to
8:48 communication or their partners are
8:49 monitoring them. Um temporary shelter
8:52 and warding for pets because that's
8:54 important and can hold people back
8:55 sometime, believe it or not. clothing
8:57 and hygiene supplies and culturally
8:59 competent behavioral health support um
9:02 provided by a group that we contract
9:03 with called uh for the culture
9:05 counseling services. Uh legal guidance,
9:07 assistance filling out protection orders
9:09 and court filing family services,
9:12 referrals and connections to local
9:13 services, assistance with resume
9:16 building, job searches, applications for
9:18 schooling. Um, our organization is, I
9:21 feel, is different than some of the
9:23 larger organizations that help with
9:24 domestic violence in the area because we
9:27 don't just step in and put a band-aid on
9:29 and pay rent. We step in and we come up
9:32 with a plan. We develop that plan and we
9:35 execute the plan. The participants have
9:37 to be willing and wanting to change
9:39 their life and remove theirel from a
9:41 domestic violence situation. It can take
9:43 seven to 10 times for a woman to
9:45 actually leave. And so we're we're there
9:48 for that seventh to 10th time when they
9:50 actually want to move on and move
9:51 forward. Um I have done that myself and
9:54 I know how hard it is to leave. Um and I
9:57 know the steps that need to be t taken
9:59 to get out of those situations and to
10:01 sustain that success. Um and so that's
10:04 why our group is a little bit different.
10:06 We're probably haven't heard of us. We
10:08 have helped, I think,
10:11 25 or 30 people um in our funding cycle
10:15 this last couple of years. We still have
10:16 a few more. The year's not over yet. Um
10:19 but um we're we're more based word of
10:21 mouth based. Um we haven't really
10:23 released our website yet because um I'm
10:26 afraid that we'll get flooded and I
10:28 don't have the funding to help those
10:30 people. Um but we did make a website.
10:32 Yay for us. Um it was really hard for us
10:34 to do. Um, so I encourage you guys to
10:37 look at our new website, look at all the
10:39 services that we offer, and um, I hope
10:41 that you consider my application for
10:43 more funding this cycle. Thank you very
10:45 much.
10:46 >> What was your agency?
10:48 >> Domestic violence survivors.
10:52 >> I do have a question. What is your
10:54 service area?
10:55 >> Um, so we started and focused really on
10:59 Isiqua, but we have helped everybody
11:02 locally in all of the east side cities.
11:04 And so we have asked for funding from
11:06 all of the east side cities this year
11:08 for the first time including Reon um
11:11 because we help a lot of people up in
11:12 the highlands. Um we've even helped
11:14 people in Seattle um with donations that
11:17 we received and um some private funding
11:19 that we received as well.
11:21 >> Thank you.
11:22 >> Thank you very much.
11:22 >> Thank you so much Jamie. You guys have a
11:24 good night.
11:24 >> You too.
11:28 Jamie, before everyone leaves,
11:30 >> Jamie, before everyone leaves, what was
11:32 the name of the first the organization
11:34 of the first presenter?
11:36 >> Sophia Wayi.
11:38 >> Sophia Wayi. Uh, tell me your in your
11:41 application. Uh, you mentioned that you
11:44 uh I don't see um a um a brickandmortar
11:48 place here in Isiqua, but you do say
11:50 that you do home visits. Is it possible
11:53 for you? Um,
11:55 >> we do vehicle vehicle outreach.
11:58 >> I see. Is it possible for someone to be
12:01 in Isiqua to apply for your services,
12:04 get your services, and to um graduate
12:08 from your services while staying in the
12:10 city of Isiziqua?
12:12 >> That I'm not aware. I have to check
12:14 because we have Kirkland, Belleview, uh,
12:17 and Isaakqua covered, but how they stay
12:20 here and do that, I don't know. But we
12:22 actually bring them to the value shelter
12:24 or to the culture because we when we do
12:27 the outreach vehicle outreach they are
12:29 anywhere they are and then we take them
12:31 there.
12:32 >> Yeah.
12:32 >> I see. Thank you.
12:35 >> Absolutely. Thanks.
12:37 >> Thank you. Thank you.
12:46 I thought I'd mention that um Jamie the
12:48 last presenter she was on the human
12:51 services council. Yeah. His commission
12:53 brief. I was I mean we over overlapped.
12:56 Yeah.
12:56 >> Oh wow.
12:57 >> Yeah. So just FYI.
13:01 >> Couple of years ago you said or
13:02 >> it was right when I started so it was
13:04 during co
13:06 >> it must have been before you right.
13:09 >> She had us a strong testimony. Yeah,
13:12 >> personal journey uh given her efforts.
13:16 Um wow.
13:19 >> All right, we're going to move on order
13:21 if that's all right with the group. Um
13:25 >> just a quick minute to do introduction
13:27 so our new
13:29 >> people know everyone.
13:30 >> Yes,
13:31 >> I know that's not Let's do that real
13:32 quick.
13:33 >> Thank you, Brandon.
13:34 >> Yeah, you want to start?
13:41 Hi, welcome Bri Manahan. Um, fairly
13:44 newbie right before you two. Um, so
13:47 prior to joining this commission, I was
13:49 also on the equity board. Lived here in
13:50 Isiqua for now six years. Didn't come
13:53 too far. I was um in Seattle. Lived
13:55 about four blocks down that way here in
13:57 the Oldtown area. So, it's a pleasure to
14:00 be here and working with the group.
14:03 >> Um, name's Micah Lorenz. This is first
14:06 meeting. Um been living in Isiqua for
14:08 almost 2 years. I really really love it.
14:11 We were living in Kirkland for that my
14:14 family until we moved over here. So
14:16 really really enjoy it and honestly
14:18 excited to be a part of this commission
14:19 and get to know you all and jump into
14:21 this work.
14:23 >> Michael
14:24 Danielle Jbert. Um I've been living here
14:26 in Esqua for about four years. I'm
14:28 actually in the process of attempting to
14:31 buy the condo that I'm renting. Um like
14:33 paperwork is happening. Uh, so that's
14:36 very exciting. I love this area. I'm
14:38 very um invested in um supporting my
14:41 neighbors. Uh and so I'm very happy to
14:43 be uh able to do that with the work
14:45 you're um on this uh commission.
14:48 Um my name is Trish Flor. Everybody else
14:51 knows me. So um and I've been in the
14:54 Isiqua area since the mid 80s. I raised
14:56 my children here and and launched them
15:00 successfully. and um I've been involved
15:04 um on a volunteer basis with a lot of
15:06 different nonprofits in the area um and
15:09 um been on the prior to this commission
15:13 I was on the arts commission and then I
15:15 moved over here during co I can't
15:17 remember what year it was but I think I
15:19 might be the I think I might be the most
15:22 veteran now. I think Manny was and then
15:26 we had a commissioner that just left or
15:28 retired or whatever you want to call it.
15:30 I I think I might be the longest term,
15:32 but yeah.
15:35 >> Um I'm JD Ramirez. I've been in
15:37 Washington since 22 and living in NSF
15:40 since 2023. Um I joined the commission
15:43 last year. Um so starting with Ray and
15:48 yeah, it's pretty much me, right?
15:52 I want that focus real quick.
15:54 >> Maline, do you want to go next?
15:58 Over here.
16:00 >> Hi, I'm Meline Fish. I've lived in
16:03 Isiqua since 1992
16:08 and I think this is my second uh is it a
16:11 term on the human services commission
16:15 and I volunteer with other local
16:17 organizations as well.
16:22 Do you want to go next?
16:24 >> Sure. I apologize to everyone. My camera
16:26 doesn't seem to be working, so I You
16:28 can't see me. Right.
16:30 >> Right.
16:30 >> Right. Okay. So, um I've been uh I think
16:34 this is my third term, I think. And uh I
16:39 have been living here in Isiqua since uh
16:42 85.
16:44 I love it here. Um I was a long-term
16:47 resident of Bellingham, Washington. And
16:50 uh this reminds me a lot of topography
16:54 or geographically a lot of uh the area
16:57 around Bellingham. It's it's real pretty
17:00 here. Lots of hills and I really enjoy
17:02 it. I came to do this work uh through uh
17:07 my church. Uh I was um a friend of a
17:11 fellow activist with Manny Brown who is
17:14 no longer part of this but um uh Manny
17:17 uh encouraged me to apply and I did and
17:22 uh I've um I feel like uh I feel like I
17:25 have a little bit of impact by doing
17:27 this and I really appreciate the
17:29 opportunity to continue to do it. That's
17:32 me.
17:33 >> Thank you Amorei and Huma. Welcome.
17:35 We're just doing a quick introduction
17:37 because we have our our new commissioner
17:39 starting tonight. So, if you want to
17:40 just do an introduction, that'd be
17:41 great.
17:42 >> Sure. Hi, my name is Huma and uh this is
17:47 third year on the commission. Um what
17:51 brought me to this work was being a
17:54 fairly new Isiqua resident and I'm going
17:56 on 10 years now, but you know, compared
17:59 to Manny Brown and others, it's that's
18:01 being a newbie. Um, and I just wanted to
18:03 get involved in the community,
18:05 particularly around, um, you know, areas
18:07 where I could help minoritized
18:09 communities. Um, and, yeah, just create
18:12 be part of a positive impact there. So,
18:14 I, uh, heard from Monica Negrilla, who
18:17 used to be Brenda's predecessor, and she
18:20 invited me in, and I've just been really
18:23 grateful to be a part of this community.
18:27 >> Great. Thank you. Yeah, I just kind of
18:29 piggyback a little bit on him saying is
18:31 my name is Haime and what brought me
18:33 here too was the same thing around just
18:35 wanted to give back and contribute and
18:37 get to know the community a little
18:38 better, right? From having cultural fest
18:40 to funding to our community based
18:43 organization, you know, to school
18:46 districts and how to serve the
18:47 underserved. Um, so I've been on the
18:51 board for man, I would say plus five
18:54 years, something like that. Um, but I'm
18:57 I'm very grateful to be part of these.
18:58 These are great great great people here.
19:00 They have their hearts in the right
19:02 place to ensure that we're making
19:04 decisions based on the community's
19:06 voices. So, that's what keeps me coming
19:08 is knowing that everyone's in the same
19:11 collective impact. Um, so welcome.
19:13 Welcome, Michael. Welcome. I have
19:15 Danielle and Mike is what I have here.
19:17 So welcome.
19:21 >> All right. So, we're going to
19:24 go forward here with approval of
19:25 minutes. We did have two of them. So, I
19:27 do need to get kind of a motion on these
19:30 uh minutes for April 15, 2026. Do I get
19:34 a motion from
19:36 >> I move that we've approved the minutes
19:37 from that meeting.
19:39 >> I second.
19:41 >> Second from both JD and Trish.
19:45 Um, and then we're going to have to also
19:46 do the same thing for our equity joint
19:49 commission meeting that we had um in
19:52 Redmond Human Services Tuesday, May 12,
19:55 2026. I will need a motion for that as
19:57 well from the group.
19:59 >> A motion to
20:01 >> Okay, I'll second.
20:03 >> Oh, I think we have a second from R.
20:05 I'll second.
20:08 We We got it, but thank you.
20:20 We're going to go to our third item or
20:22 actually a item um for joint human
20:27 service commission equity training
20:29 workshop workshop followup. I do re
20:32 recognize that a lot of us were there uh
20:35 at Redmond Hall to talk about um
20:40 what was the group community rise that
20:41 kind of came in and and provided uh I'm
20:44 going to speak a little so folks can
20:46 hear me online as well is and a platform
20:50 to have discussions around biases,
20:53 equity, equality, institutional racism,
20:56 structural racism and and I and I was
20:59 talking to Brenda, you know, I
21:02 uh and we'll share the next slides here
21:04 uh as attachments
21:07 um was how does that fit within human
21:09 services funding right and how do we
21:11 kind of look at some of the blind spots
21:13 to ensure that we're we're doing what we
21:16 should be doing right and I one of the
21:18 items that was shared through Brenda on
21:21 folks's email was um the equity
21:24 statement shared funding priorities
21:30 >> I think does everyone have that online.
21:32 >> Okay, perfect.
21:33 >> And so I I I I thought it would be very
21:36 pivotal just to always center our work
21:38 around this statement because I know a
21:40 lot of work was done. I know Manny would
21:41 be super happy knowing that uh this is
21:44 being still continued to be at the
21:46 center of our vision. So I'm going to
21:48 read it out loud. Um, isqua human
21:51 services. Our work in human services is
21:53 centered around the vision of Isiqua as
21:55 a welcoming, inclusive, equitable, and
21:58 just community with a broad range of
22:01 social services where every person is
22:04 respected and we're meeting basic need,
22:07 basic human needs, a shared
22:09 responsibility.
22:15 So with that in mind, I I did want to
22:17 talk about uh for our group here and and
22:19 I don't want to make it I do want to
22:21 make it more of a reflection where I do
22:23 want folks to speak and how does that
22:25 fit within your internal compass
22:28 um new or no new I I still feel there's
22:30 a lot of wisdom in the room right is so
22:34 I did have uh some questions but I did
22:36 want to if folks want to take out um
22:40 there is another uh attachment around
22:45 uh equity, what is equity, what is
22:47 equality, and then what is bias.
22:52 >> This was good. I'm glad you brought
22:53 this.
22:54 >> Absolutely. I I and thank you for
22:55 bringing it up uh commissioner is that
22:59 for folks that could not attend how it
23:01 was broke it down was there's three
23:02 groups and it was really to look at
23:05 biases and actually to
23:08 pull those muscles around what are some
23:10 stereotypes that folks have. So um we
23:13 all have biases and I think the more we
23:16 can have conversations of like hey
23:18 here's what I have here is my internal
23:19 compass uh what does that mean now for
23:22 have discussion and dialogue to then
23:25 being able to make decisions and a in a
23:28 very uh going back to our statement of
23:30 equity going back to that statement to
23:32 ensure that we're making uh funding
23:35 recommendations based on the best we can
23:37 to our underserved communities and so I
23:40 wanted to just talk about equity
23:42 equality and biases and and I'm going to
23:45 read it out loud or someone has someone
23:48 wants to read it in terms of equity
23:51 definition on that attachment. I'm
23:53 looking for volunteers.
23:55 >> You want me to read it?
23:56 >> Yes, please. Thank you. Thank you.
23:59 Um, equity in power distribution
24:02 involves fairly assigning influence,
24:05 resources, and decision-making authority
24:08 while considering different starting
24:10 points and needs to promote fair
24:12 outcomes. Can you hear me? Okay.
24:15 >> Yep.
24:15 >> Okay. Unlike equality, which offers the
24:19 same for everyone and may overlook
24:22 systemic disadvantage or disparities,
24:26 equity is a proactive fairness approach.
24:28 It ensures all voices are included,
24:31 opportunities are accessible, and
24:34 support tailored to address barriers,
24:37 fostering an environment where everyone
24:39 has a genuine chance to succeed.
24:50 We want to read the equality or the
24:54 group.
24:55 >> Come on. It's pretty short. You guys
24:57 >> I'll do it.
24:59 >> Versus equality. Equality is the
25:01 condition of having equality or being
25:04 equal in equality or sense.
25:10 >> Thank you, Commissioner Ray. Anybody on
25:11 the bias one?
25:15 I can take it. So bias implicit or
25:18 unconscious bias involves automatic
25:21 stereotypes and attitudes that influence
25:22 our perceptions, decisions, and
25:24 behaviors without our awareness. These
25:26 biases often involve declared beliefs
25:29 and can affect sectors such as hiring,
25:32 healthcare, and justice through quick
25:34 judgments based on background, culture,
25:36 or appearance. shaped by personal
25:38 experiences, these mental shortcuts may
25:40 cause unfair treatment even when we
25:42 consciously endorse fairness and
25:44 equality.
25:47 And and so I'm going to piggy back. So
25:49 one of the examples they used here was
25:50 resumeé audit studies show that
25:52 identical application received different
25:54 responses based on a racially coded
25:56 names. Right? These findings demonstrate
25:59 that unconscious biases shape hiring
26:01 decisions even among employers who
26:03 endorse diversity. Um, so that's a a
26:09 bias and so I I I fielded some questions
26:13 to Brenda and um and I think given the
26:17 the the learn learning we had last week,
26:20 I think it would be in our best favor to
26:21 have these discussions as a group,
26:23 right? And it's one of the questions I
26:25 have and I really again it's very
26:28 important because we're all going to be
26:29 split in groups when we're talking about
26:31 funding recommendations and what I want
26:34 or my hope our hope is to go back to the
26:37 equity statement is that how do we
26:40 normalize discussion and say hey
26:42 actually do have a bias around you're
26:44 not good or bad but I think we should we
26:46 have to speak about them because that's
26:49 when we have these uh unconscious biases
26:52 and we're making recommend ations
26:53 without really having a conversation.
26:55 So, and so I just I'm going to put these
26:57 questions out there, but but I want to
26:59 put it in practical as we get split up
27:00 in groups for recommendations that it's
27:03 very critical to ensure we're having
27:05 discussions around biases, equity,
27:08 equality. So, my question to the group
27:10 here as we learn and stretch our muscles
27:12 and and I I do want to say everyone's on
27:14 a different continuum, right? So, how
27:17 that looks like is is is very important
27:18 too, right? Again, wisdom in the room.
27:21 So the question I had here uh what
27:24 biases may impact access to services or
27:27 in our community
27:30 >> what biases that we have.
27:32 >> Correct.
27:33 >> Okay.
27:38 >> Can be I see someone back there too.
27:42 >> Commissioner can make it. Go ahead.
27:46 >> Me.
27:46 >> Yes. Yes. Yep.
27:50 I was going to say um classism.
27:53 >> Okay.
27:55 >> Like um yeah
27:57 >> say more
27:59 >> um well
28:03 who
28:05 okay I'll just use a specific example um
28:08 and I don't mean to call anybody out but
28:10 it's just a specific example that I
28:12 that's coming to mind. um clothing drive
28:15 that happens at the barn and we have
28:18 assumptions about who deserves to be
28:19 there and who doesn't
28:21 >> and our people who are well off you know
28:26 but yes so are people are people who are
28:29 welloff just coming to get free stuff
28:32 >> yep
28:32 >> but we cannot necessarily know people's
28:36 class status or um should lower income
28:40 people look a certain way to gain access
28:44 to some of our services. Right? So, some
28:47 of those uh assumptions that we all
28:48 carry where we're trying to figure out
28:52 who really deserves our help or who
28:55 belongs uh in a particular category or
28:57 who doesn't. And I think it's something
29:00 that really each and every one of us
29:01 carry. It could be about class, but it
29:03 could certainly be about anything else
29:05 too, like white passing folks. um do you
29:08 really are you really uh okay to get
29:12 access to this or that resource if you
29:14 don't appear as a person of color
29:16 because you're white passing any number
29:18 of biases
29:22 >> and that's a great point. Uh one of the
29:23 things that to add to that was the
29:25 training was you know most of the
29:27 community based organizations are going
29:29 to be closer to the work right which
29:31 means also representation
29:34 identification
29:35 uh is very critical. Um one of the
29:37 things that I'm always mindful of is
29:40 when we do we have our site visits or
29:42 folks coming in is that you know they
29:46 might speak different languages too
29:48 right? So if they're speaking English
29:50 and they and it's not as proficient as
29:52 it is, there is biases with that and
29:54 there's some privilege around that. So I
29:56 think of it that way. Who has access and
29:58 who doesn't, right? Some of our
29:59 community based organization, I'm
30:00 thinking like the circle, right? They
30:02 might have some great people, but
30:05 English is maybe not the first. And so
30:08 um and I think of it that way. Who has
30:10 access, who doesn't have access, right?
30:12 And I think about it in a bigger scope
30:14 for isqua as we're diverse in our
30:16 community is some folks might not be
30:19 proficient with English doesn't mean
30:20 they're less than. they actually might
30:22 be more equipped because they might
30:24 speak four or five six languages and
30:27 that just something that I'm just being
30:29 mindful right so I think of it when
30:31 people come and present right is I that
30:34 can be something that how do we shape
30:37 that belonging piece to fact is that we
30:39 want you to show up for who you are and
30:41 speak to the great work you're doing and
30:43 so I think of it in that way even small
30:46 presentations like that I'm just I'm
30:48 mindful like okay what are they saying
30:50 how do I how do we try to examine that.
30:52 So, um that's just a quick observation.
30:55 I want to hear from the group if there's
30:58 anything biases that may impact
31:01 um around the work we do.
31:03 >> Well, I I thought um you know, yours was
31:05 a really good one. It made me think that
31:08 I have kind of one that's on a little
31:11 bit of a tangent off that. I have I I
31:14 admit I have not pulled up the link yet
31:15 to see who has applied, but hope link
31:19 I'm assuming has applied. they always
31:21 apply. And I tend to have a barrier
31:27 sometimes against funding Hope Link
31:30 because they're this big mega place and
31:32 they get, you know, hundreds and
31:35 thousands, millions of dollars. And so
31:38 that's something I have to think about
31:40 as I evaluate
31:43 their application
31:45 is um I have to kind of, you know, put
31:48 blinders on and just forget about the
31:50 fact that they've got all this money
31:51 flowing in and look at the true merits
31:53 of what they're trying to tell us. But
31:55 it's hard. It's really hard because they
31:57 get millions of dollars.
31:59 >> Yeah.
32:00 >> Yeah. And and that's I think as we go
32:03 into grammar, it's going to be an
32:04 ongoing tension. I think that's
32:05 something that is uh big organizations
32:09 and how much how much they serve our our
32:12 community right
32:13 >> that can be more intentionality is like
32:16 out of that pie how much are is and I
32:18 know some of you will ask that say hey I
32:20 think it was just asked just a minute
32:22 ago was how many folks do you serve that
32:25 are isiqua I think it was commissioner
32:26 Murray that asked that question so those
32:29 are good critical questions to keep
32:32 having on our front minds and saying hey
32:34 what is being served in our community
32:35 and that's going to be something that
32:36 comes up when we have funding decisions
32:39 around our groups. I think those are
32:41 great examinations, great reflections.
32:44 Um, anybody else from the group in terms
32:46 of how biases might show up uh in terms
32:50 of services in our community?
32:51 >> Well, to piggyback of what Trish just
32:54 said, my big bias is familiarity. I
32:56 mean, I walk here at every meeting and
32:58 there's two that are right on my path to
33:00 get over here, which is the clothing
33:02 bank and the garage next door.
33:05 I walk my dog and I see those two CBOS
33:07 right there. I go, "Oh, wow. Great
33:09 work." And there's 30 plus other
33:11 applications in my folder going, "Right,
33:13 you you that's you need to go take a
33:16 look at those. That's not the only ones
33:18 that you need to consider." They're
33:19 doing great work.
33:21 >> So, go open up those folders and go
33:23 figure out what they're trying to do.
33:24 How many people in the community do they
33:26 serve? What are they trying to
33:28 accomplish? What are their numbers? go
33:30 dissect them and look at them and
33:31 analyze them to see what they did, what
33:33 they're trying to do because they could
33:35 do equal amount of impressive work. So
33:37 don't let don't let that bias get in the
33:39 way of really trying to understand what
33:42 those organizations are trying to do and
33:44 that goes right along what you're trying
33:45 saying Trish whether it be the circle or
33:48 Kinderling that's another huge
33:49 organization is go in there and tr truly
33:52 understand what it's going to take some
33:54 time you just got to block off that that
33:57 will really go in there see what
34:03 >> on the flip side familiar I mean I I get
34:06 what you're saying, but familiarity
34:10 means access hopefully to other
34:12 community members, right? And people are
34:15 are familiar with the organizations and
34:17 particularly the food bank. Yeah. And uh
34:22 and go there because of their
34:23 familiarity. Yeah. Yeah.
34:30 >> Anybody else? I see.
34:31 >> I have a question. I have a question
34:33 related to familiarity. um and bias
34:36 reduction. Are we doing field trips at
34:40 all this time? Like sometimes we go
34:41 visit the organizations to get a better
34:43 sense of um what they've done when
34:46 they've been funded.
34:48 And since the last uh batch of funding,
34:51 I have not taken that field trip, but I
34:53 hear that they are done. So, I was just
34:55 wondering if that's in the works for
34:57 this round or
35:00 >> Yeah, generally we do the field trips
35:02 before. So we we did those this last
35:05 this past year. There were field trips
35:07 and there were presentations. So at some
35:09 point after the funding um that that
35:13 will happen after the these groups are
35:15 funded and then you'll go out and kind
35:17 of monitor and see them throughout the
35:19 grant cycles.
35:21 >> Thank you.
35:22 >> Question. And to that point, one of the
35:25 things that we identified when we got
35:27 done or concluded our grant sension
35:29 recommendations was like, "Hey, there's
35:32 like like six of these that we would
35:33 love to." So think about that. So as
35:35 you're going into funding is uh identify
35:39 which ones are like hey I would like to
35:41 know more about that one or you know so
35:43 you know having that back mind so it
35:46 does get presented to the human services
35:47 commission and just and then it gets on
35:49 the books and then we're all kind of in
35:51 there because that that that will be the
35:52 season for this upcoming year is doing
35:56 site visits and or one of the things
35:57 that we recommended was how do we get
36:00 folks to come to you know kind of a
36:02 two-way sphere right because sometimes
36:04 it might be difficult to go to their
36:05 spot. So, making it space where we have
36:08 I think there was one commission meeting
36:09 where we had like four or five folks
36:11 lined up and kind of giving their
36:13 overview of what they do, why they do
36:15 it. Um, and not just I think the rhythm
36:18 is great in that regard because they're
36:20 just not waiting for like, oh, it's
36:22 grant time. I got to go present. It's
36:24 more like, hey, it's naturally to say, I
36:27 really want to know your work. I think
36:29 it it helps us not be transactional. Uh
36:31 and so that was the the the discussion
36:34 we had last year was how do we get more
36:36 how do we get more participation even
36:38 from us right not just having them come
36:40 to us but us going out to their to their
36:43 space and community. So that will be
36:45 something that comes up and then folks
36:46 will raise their hand I would love to
36:48 check out and then kind of report back.
36:51 I think that was one of the things we
36:52 did. I'm looking at Commissioner Manlin
36:54 here too is that or Commissioner Manlin
36:57 and is that we we did come back and
36:59 report some site that we had and do it
37:02 that way. So that would be coming up for
37:04 the upcoming year.
37:06 >> Well, and I just want to add wh um I
37:08 can't remember which grant cycle it was.
37:10 I think this is my third now. Um there
37:14 were um applications where I wasn't
37:16 familiar with the organizations. I went
37:19 I went and did my own site visit,
37:22 you know, and I I you know, because most
37:24 of these places are I mean, you don't
37:26 even have to identify that you're a
37:28 commissioner, you know, you can just I
37:30 mean, I can't remember which
37:31 organization it was, but a lot of these
37:33 places are fine, you know, particularly
37:34 if they have a brick and mortar. If
37:36 they're working outside of their home,
37:37 it's different.
37:39 Now, we were we were discouraged from
37:40 doing that uh a couple of cycles ago by
37:43 uh Monica and uh uh she said to give her
37:47 questions that we had uh and that she
37:50 would follow up on those and get back to
37:52 us. Uh is that is that something that we
37:54 can do now that we can go to those
37:56 sites?
37:58 >> Okay. My and I see you Yeah, you're
38:00 taking it even further. I I just wanted
38:03 to see these places and I I can't even
38:06 remember if I really grilled them. And
38:08 you're you're talking about reading the
38:10 applications and then having questions
38:12 specifically that are arising from the
38:15 applications.
38:16 >> Yeah, there's that too. Yeah. And I
38:18 would also say too that when you start
38:20 meeting in the subgroups in August with
38:22 Hannah, that's a great time where as you
38:24 review the next couple of months, all of
38:26 your applications and you still have
38:28 questions to meet with the other people
38:30 in your subgroup and then ask those
38:31 questions directly to Hannah. I think
38:33 that'll be really helpful because there
38:35 there will definitely be some that
38:36 you're just not as familiar with.
38:38 >> Yeah.
38:38 >> And you're having some questions. So
38:40 that's part of the design for those
38:42 subgroups
38:43 >> and I remember more of what you're
38:44 talking about. Yeah.
38:46 >> Uhuh. because I think you and Manny and
38:48 I were in that subgroup together and and
38:51 we were all energetic and we wanted to
38:53 contact these organizations and you know
38:55 email them and ask some questions and
38:57 yet we were told no we shouldn't
38:59 >> because the and the reason is it was a
39:01 good reason. The reason is is that is
39:04 they have their jobs to do and if
39:06 they're constantly being peppered by the
39:09 commissioners from Redmond, from
39:11 Belleview, from Kirkland, from Isiziqua,
39:13 you know, they're it's going to be hard
39:14 for them to get the job done. Right.
39:16 Right.
39:16 >> Yeah. And that's a good point, Morin.
39:20 >> Yeah. One of the things that, you know,
39:21 Jamie, you were talking about um uh my
39:24 comment to the Sophia way lady. Um one
39:27 of the things that I think um
39:30 that that we have built into our system
39:34 here is that we have to care for just
39:37 isquat people. Um, or they have to be
39:41 there has to be a a place where
39:43 Isizakiqua people can get to. Um, you
39:47 know, I I've got this one uh application
39:52 here. I I've already gone through my my
39:54 applications and I've rated them and I I
39:57 kind of know kind of where they're at,
39:58 but one of them is u is for uh
40:02 indigenous veterans. Um, and it's
40:05 specifically for indigenous veterans um,
40:08 who are homeless or are struggling and
40:12 in in in uh, perhaps going to be
40:15 homeless. They have to go all the way to
40:17 SeaTac in order to get help, right? So,
40:21 you know, how possible is it going to be
40:23 somebody who who's homeless to get to
40:26 SeaTac to get assistance
40:30 um, and then, you know, get back home?
40:33 You know, it probably isn't going to
40:35 work out too well. Uh that's that's like
40:37 a three four hour bus thing for them to
40:40 get there. Um if you've ever ridden the
40:43 buses in the area, it's crazy. Um
40:47 so uh and then uh
40:51 so we can't and and then there's other
40:54 people who really need the help who
40:56 maybe don't who live just on the other
40:58 side of the city line or are living in
41:00 Belleview or are living in Seamish that
41:03 really need the assistance but we're not
41:05 helping them. We're helping only ours.
41:08 Um, so there is that little bit of
41:11 that's a little bit grading to me, but I
41:14 I mean I'm I go with the program because
41:15 I know what the program is, but it still
41:18 grades on me that we're not helping
41:20 others.
41:24 >> And that is a great observation. It kind
41:25 of leads into like my I'm trying to be
41:27 mad full time. So my next question here
41:29 is as we make recommendations and
41:32 decisions and brainstorming and so forth
41:35 is constantly asking who may still feel
41:40 underserved in Isiqua, underserved in
41:43 Isiqua. And it goes back to what
41:45 Commissioner M was saying is as we make
41:49 uh decisions and recommendations is
41:51 being mindful. we have our our
41:53 priorities around our strategic plan,
41:55 right? Those are the ones that guide our
41:57 our decision and I would say and who is
42:01 still feeling who is still being
42:02 underserved.
42:04 >> I think that is uh to your point,
42:06 Commissioner Murray, is uh having that
42:11 uh as a reflection.
42:17 >> Sorry. Sorry,
42:18 >> Mory. That was a very specific list of
42:21 check boxes that you had. Could I just
42:22 have to backtrack a little bit?
42:24 Indigenous,
42:27 >> homeless, and then isolas. So, as you go
42:29 down your list of check boxes, how how
42:32 are you going through that list? So,
42:33 homeless, I can understand, and I I
42:35 don't know which categories you're which
42:37 subgroup you fall in, but homeless and
42:40 indigenous and isqua. So, all those have
42:42 to be and veteran and veterans. So, how
42:45 how are you like h how are you making
42:48 sure that you check all of those or
42:50 what's the what's the list of how are
42:52 you how are you um
42:56 what's a good word for this? Um
42:58 >> it's a really great question.
43:00 >> A really great question.
43:01 >> The you you become a little bit of a
43:03 detective. How many how how many people
43:07 in Isiqua are identify as indigenous or
43:11 or Alaskan native? because you got to
43:14 include that, right? Um and so of those
43:18 people,
43:19 what's the percentage of that population
43:21 that actually was a veteran, right? And
43:25 of those people, it turns out that
43:27 there's about 124. If you just go
43:30 statistically, which is what I just was
43:33 what I went the process I went through,
43:35 um there's about there's about 124 that
43:38 are indigenous veterans that live in in
43:41 Isiqua. How many of those people are
43:43 homeless? I really don't know. But
43:46 they're only talking about serving maybe
43:48 three or four with this program that's
43:50 in SeaTac, right? But you have to be a
43:53 little bit of a detective. You got to
43:54 think outside the box a little bit. Not
43:57 that much uh to try to figure out who it
44:00 is that that's u that that uh is act
44:03 this is actually applying to. Right.
44:06 So, so the list of CBOS that are that
44:08 you're overseeing, there has to be some
44:10 some some connection to that that
44:13 population that you just
44:16 >> Yeah.
44:17 >> Okay.
44:18 >> I'll tell you my priority and I think
44:20 we've talked about this is I mean in in
44:23 that list that check list,
44:26 it has to be a place if it's not
44:28 something that's here in Isiqua, it has
44:30 to be a place that our isqua population
44:33 can readily get to. That's my very top.
44:36 >> Sure, that makes sense.
44:38 >> Yeah, that's Yeah, that comes first. And
44:40 then those other things Manny looked
44:43 into that would that would come after.
44:45 But if they if even if they say, you
44:48 know, they project that they might um
44:52 you know, service 10 people. I mean, I
44:55 don't know first of all how they're
44:56 coming up with those projections or
44:58 maybe they explain and again I haven't
45:00 looked at man. Um my and I happen to be
45:03 we're in the housing continuum. That's
45:04 our subgroup. But um yeah, if if if it's
45:09 not readily available, we're readily
45:11 accessible. I I pretty much rule it out.
45:14 That's what we did the last grinding
45:16 period, right guys?
45:18 >> That's right. Yeah. If it has to be
45:20 readily accessible to people that are in
45:22 isqua.
45:23 >> I mean it is it's taxpayer money.
45:27 >> Yeah.
45:29 >> Yeah. It's it's sad because because it
45:31 all you know we it's it's not like we
45:34 all exist in just within Isqua. We exist
45:37 in a in a larger area and people that
45:40 are outside this area that are
45:41 marginalized have effect on the people
45:43 that are in this area. For instance, uh
45:46 the city wants to put in this uh uh this
45:49 new deal where they photograph uh
45:51 license plates so that they can catch
45:53 the criminals as they're coming into
45:55 town, right? Um,
45:57 you know, the there's there's we're
46:01 we're not just existing within the city
46:03 limits, but but for our funding, we have
46:07 to kind of look at it like we're just
46:09 existing within the city limits.
46:12 >> Did you have a question?
46:13 >> Well, no, I was going to add to Mory's
46:15 comment. So,
46:17 like thinking about like him saying
46:19 like, okay, well, how is this small
46:21 percentage of people might get to CAT?
46:24 And I think another way of also looking
46:25 at it and kind of like
46:28 defending is not the right word but like
46:29 standing by your choice of choosing to
46:32 maybe not fund that organization is also
46:34 like what other services can we fund in
46:36 Isqua that maybe have a broader lens but
46:39 also support homelessness for example or
46:42 veterans for example.
46:43 >> We're fortunate because we have a city
46:45 excuse me we have a city I mean Brenda
46:47 heads it up.
46:48 >> Yeah.
46:48 >> The homeless outreach for Isiqua.
46:50 >> Correct. Yeah. And so that's what I'm
46:51 saying like and along that so like one
46:54 sometimes like we may think like okay
46:56 like this there's this really niche need
46:59 but can we find other ways for this need
47:02 to be met through maybe one of the other
47:04 programs that's like within our
47:06 applications
47:08 >> and then the other on the other side of
47:10 that is also thinking like about the
47:12 fund like programs that you're funding
47:13 and making sure that we're not like
47:14 duplicating services um and I think
47:17 that's something that
47:18 >> like as we continue to get like just
47:21 like beyond just like the funding years
47:23 and looking at how can current
47:26 organizations maybe like work together
47:29 or link them to like other organizations
47:31 that are providing similar services and
47:33 how can they like work together to
47:35 strengthen their programs and their
47:36 services. Um so yeah, I think that's
47:40 like a huge need or huge issue in just
47:42 like the nonprofit world. And just
47:44 listening to all of your comments, it's
47:46 makes me so much more grateful for the
47:48 work that you do because I know that you
47:49 have to say a lot of nos and it's not
47:51 going to be easy. So all of those things
47:54 that you're talking about, you're
47:55 checking a lot of boxes, but at the end
47:58 of the day, you're going to say no to a
47:59 lot of programs. And no one wants to do
48:02 that, but that's the job that you're
48:04 tasked with. And and if we had
48:08 more money and you know, if money were
48:09 not an option, we would want to fund all
48:11 of them. we could find a we could find a
48:14 reason why we want to fund every single
48:15 one of them. But again, so that's it
48:18 just makes me very grateful for the work
48:19 that you're about to do or have started
48:21 doing. So I
48:22 >> think I want to say hopefully I get the
48:25 numbers right. I think it was the we
48:26 have about $600,000 to provide back. I
48:29 think the request was like one point.
48:31 >> Yeah, I I'll actually that. So, so that
48:34 that goes back to again this is just a
48:38 discussion within that is that when you
48:40 are splitting your groups and and that
48:43 that's why I wanted to center this to
48:44 our equity statements not just a
48:46 statement there's also how we practice
48:48 that you know it's one thing and one
48:51 thing to practice that is those are the
48:53 muscles that we should be you know uh
48:55 increasing growing uh and and and the
49:00 with your partner and your team this is
49:02 a great way to kind do that. Uh, I'm
49:05 going to end it. Does anybody have any
49:06 more comments,
49:08 >> thoughts?
49:09 >> Okay. I just want to say one thing. Um,
49:12 >> the
49:13 granting that they did when CO first
49:17 started, I wasn't on the commission
49:18 then,
49:19 >> but they kind of did what is called a
49:21 peanut butter approach. And it could be
49:22 just because it was co, but they tended
49:25 to want to give money to everybody.
49:28 >> And so it meant not so much money to
49:31 everybody. And I remember Mayor Mayor
49:33 Paulie and I believe the council gave us
49:36 even though they don't like to give us
49:38 directives, we we definitely got the
49:40 message that we really should focus on
49:44 organizations where we want to make
49:45 meaningful contributions, which means
49:47 we're not going to do peanut butter.
49:50 Yeah. So, I just thought I might mention
49:51 that.
49:52 >> Good stuff. Jamie,
49:54 >> I will say to I know Commissioner
49:56 Danielle was there. Is there any com
49:58 You're right at the train. Um any
50:00 comments from you thoughts?
50:02 >> Plenty. Oh yeah.
50:05 Just trying to you know listen in and
50:07 absorb. Absolutely. One thought that I
50:09 had surrounding bias is um you know and
50:13 and um fairness and uh just ethics is um
50:20 you know do do the people who end up
50:22 making it to um the meetings and present
50:27 um could a bias develop from that
50:30 because they're presenting to us and so
50:33 they're more familiar to us um when we
50:36 are reviewing applications.
50:38 Um and and on an ethical side of things
50:41 or fairness um side of things um you
50:44 know the the resources are are un um
50:48 unbalanced you know for example with um
50:51 domestic violence survivors. mentions
50:53 the the website, you know, not having a
50:55 website and so how does that impact the
50:59 the you know, the ability to kind of
51:01 evaluate that um service or CBO. Um, so
51:06 this is as I'm thinking of bias like
51:08 having somebody coming in and presenting
51:11 may create a little bit of that because
51:14 you know you know them they're they're
51:17 presenting well or they're present you
51:18 know they're speaking well to their
51:20 mission or they have a compelling story
51:23 and so just being able to um you know
51:26 make sure that you're not influenced by
51:29 that is where I've been thinking a lot
51:31 of lately.
51:32 >> Good point. Yeah, that was I'm I'm glad
51:36 that up there is when we were going
51:38 through the grand funding and we were
51:39 talking about like we need to get to
51:41 know more our organizations, right? Was
51:44 this was one method of like can we have
51:47 more folks present and or us going out
51:50 and there I can I can see there can be
51:52 unintended consequences too of just like
51:55 hey they have more facetime
51:57 >> you know um there can be biases within
51:59 that too. So I just I'm glad you're
52:01 pointing that out. Um,
52:03 >> since I'm new, it's just something that
52:05 as I'm, you know, trying to be cognizant
52:08 of these things, I can see how it could
52:11 create a bias for myself
52:14 >> as I'm moving into this process and to
52:16 be aware of it as I do.
52:19 >> That was a good one to bring up. Yeah.
52:22 >> I'm going to end with one of the the
52:24 boxes here of recognizing and being
52:28 transparent with discomfort. I'm going
52:30 to read it out loud here because I think
52:31 it's so vital and needed when we're
52:35 having discussions of such, right?
52:36 Recognizing and being transparent about
52:38 discomfort means viewing feelings as a
52:41 sign of growth rather than threats.
52:44 Using mindfulness to stay within
52:46 feelings without reacting immediately
52:48 and communicate honestly about your
52:50 internal experience, your feelings and
52:52 impact rather than just facts to foster
52:55 deeper trust even when vulnerability is
52:57 involved. It also involves practicing
53:00 self-compassion, gradually taking small
53:02 consistent steps outside your comfort
53:04 zone to strengthen resilience and
53:06 self-awareness, turning discomfort into
53:09 growth opportunity instead of avoiding
53:11 it. So I say that is that is the muscle
53:14 we're trying to stretch is that if
53:16 there's discomfort, we're growing,
53:18 right? And so please lean into that as
53:20 we are splitting into our group
53:22 discussions.
53:24 And that is it. Thank you all. you're
53:27 here.
53:34 Uh I think the next item in order here
53:37 is uh Brenda Parker
53:40 uh application process check-in.
53:48 >> I will figure out how to share my screen
53:50 with you.
54:02 structural question if that's okay.
54:04 >> Um, since we're losing some members, um,
54:08 and as our newer members came in as
54:11 alternates, does that change our
54:13 position, do we move into a different
54:16 position or do we remain as an
54:18 alternate?
54:19 >> Um, there will be some change. We we
54:21 opted to put that um to push that back
54:24 until August. So in there will be let's
54:28 see how do I say this? So um
54:33 the mayor will appoint Trish from
54:35 alternate to a regular member that
54:37 happens in June and then in your August
54:40 meeting before the the very first order
54:42 of business we'll be electing the chair
54:43 and the co-chair. So that will be the
54:46 extent of the changes for now.
54:49 >> Yeah.
54:51 >> Is there a question?
54:52 >> Yeah.
54:54 behind me. I can't remember how to do
54:56 this.
54:57 >> Got Ray right there. Raise your guy.
55:00 >> I practiced that earlier. That worked. I
55:02 thought I could just share my screen,
55:03 but
55:05 >> this right here,
55:08 >> but I want to emphasize, you know, right
55:10 now
55:12 >> that we don't treat
55:14 we don't treat alternates. I mean, we
55:16 treat everybody the same.
55:18 >> I think though alternates don't uh vote.
55:21 If it came to a and I should even well
55:25 Brenda is busy. If it came to um where
55:28 we had to vote on a motion
55:32 >> um then and if we had a quorum with just
55:36 the regulars and the alternates I mean
55:39 how many regulars do we have? Seven
55:40 something like that. Oh, there's
55:42 >> But um if if we don't have all the
55:45 regulars here, then none of the
55:47 alternate will vote as if they're a
55:49 regular
55:51 pay attention will
55:55 >> like when you're in your subcommittee,
55:57 you'll be able to um
56:00 >> get as much weight in decision making as
56:01 anybody else.
56:03 >> Yeah.
56:06 >> Okay. So, uh yeah, thank you for that.
56:08 Those are good points and those are also
56:10 questions. If you have additional
56:11 questions any of you about how that's
56:13 going to to work during the transition,
56:15 feel free to reach out and be happy.
56:18 So, I'm just going to give a very brief
56:21 um presentation tonight. I wanted to
56:23 just give kind of an overview of what we
56:26 talked about before, reminding you that
56:28 there were 119 applications received
56:31 from 77 total organizations
56:34 u requesting $3,631,894.
56:38 So that's a lot
56:41 um as you all know.
56:44 And then we had um we had some
56:48 >> Can you go back?
56:49 >> Yes. Was this like the received and then
56:53 like I know some were
56:56 removed like
56:57 >> Yes. So that's the next slide that these
56:59 are the list. This is the list of 11
57:01 programs.
57:02 >> 11.
57:03 >> Oh, that did not qualify. Okay.
57:05 >> Maybe not quite 11. Uh this is the group
57:07 that
57:08 >> had incomplete applications or requested
57:11 below the minimum amount. So those are
57:13 the programs unfortunately that didn't.
57:15 You know, I I think it's interesting
57:17 with the requested below minimum amount.
57:20 So Hannah didn't go back and say, "Do
57:22 you want to just up it a couple thousand
57:23 dollars and you're at?"
57:24 >> We we cannot. Unfortunately, when the
57:27 application cuts off uh at four o'clock
57:30 on the cut off date, that's all we get.
57:33 >> Okay.
57:33 >> Yeah.
57:34 >> I mean, it makes our job easier.
57:36 >> I know. I know. Uh actually, I think
57:39 this is the old PowerPoint that I'm
57:41 looking at this. Oh,
57:45 >> let me go back to this for just a
57:47 second.
57:48 >> Yeah, I'm sorry. We're in the wrong
57:50 PowerPoint.
57:51 >> The applications I'm are clear on the
57:55 parameters. I
57:57 >> sure right amounts and what is required
58:00 to be complete.
58:02 >> Uh I would say we do provide some
58:04 sessions, right, where they can kind of
58:05 get some upfront kind of like here are
58:08 the rules of engagement, right? And so
58:11 but we do come across these issues where
58:14 some incomplete application or below the
58:17 minimum. Uh I know the year before we
58:20 had a cycle uh Hannah reached out but it
58:23 was be like a couple of days before. So
58:26 there was some wiggle room but it is
58:28 something that does happen to us where
58:30 unfortunately you know we do try to
58:31 provide a learning opportunity the the
58:34 rules of the engagement of the
58:35 application through share was it one
58:37 share to your point one share that where
58:40 it's a it's a portal through Bel um
58:43 >> yeah and there are meetings where
58:45 anybody that wants to attend can attend
58:48 to learn how to fill out these
58:49 applications. Yeah. So they're given if
58:52 they put in below the minimum it's their
58:54 fault for paying attention.
58:57 >> Yeah.
58:59 >> Did they treat it? What's the minimum?
59:01 Three or 5,000?
59:03 >> 5,000.
59:05 >> Yeah. I saw
59:06 >> Can I Can I ask a question?
59:08 >> 15,000,000.
59:10 That's a lot.
59:11 >> Yes.
59:13 >> Yeah.
59:15 Uh so uh I'm wondering how much my
59:18 housing continuum
59:20 uh section uh is uh allotted this time.
59:24 >> That'll come in the that'll come in one
59:26 of the slides.
59:28 >> Okay.
59:29 >> Yeah.
59:31 >> You think so? Okay.
59:32 >> Yeah.
59:32 >> Yeah. Because we've seen
59:33 >> Yeah. We're coming to
59:35 >> we've seen this deck before and it has
59:36 that breakout,
59:38 >> right? I didn't write it down last time.
59:40 Last time it was around 215 per category
59:43 is what I wrote down.
59:45 >> Uhhuh.
59:46 >> For some reason 169,000 sticks in my
59:49 head, but I wanted to verify that.
59:52 >> Oh yeah.
59:55 >> So my in our group, you, me, and who
59:58 else?
59:59 >> Um, I would have to look back on the uh
1:00:02 >> It's a new person. I don't know if it's
1:00:04 my card or
1:00:05 >> Dan.
1:00:09 I'm realizing that I missed some because
1:00:12 I wasn't able to attend the meeting.
1:00:15 >> Well,
1:00:16 >> I do not know either.
1:00:17 >> Okay.
1:00:18 >> We will we will we will we will assign I
1:00:20 think there was some meeting
1:00:21 >> not the the equity training but the one
1:00:23 before there was
1:00:25 >> there's a slide. There's a slide. Yeah.
1:00:27 So, what will this come up?
1:00:30 >> It's actually in the It's in the agenda
1:00:32 of one of the things. I'm I'll leave the
1:00:34 meeting and come back. I I can go get
1:00:38 >> Sorry, everyone. We're getting there.
1:00:44 >> See you. I'll see you back here in a
1:00:45 minute.
1:00:46 >> Okay, Mari.
1:00:56 Yep, this is it. Okay. Okay. Sorry about
1:00:59 that. So, I wanted to just um I wanted
1:01:01 to make this very brief and I've already
1:01:03 messed that up, but I wanted to just
1:01:06 look at this slide here. We took the
1:01:09 original our current baseline of 612,000
1:01:11 just over 612,000.
1:01:13 We added like we normally do the
1:01:15 population growth which was actually
1:01:16 zero this year and the per capita rate
1:01:19 or which is 3.9%.
1:01:22 Giving us the new numbers for 27 and 28.
1:01:25 And then we were given permission just
1:01:27 to round those numbers. So the 650,270
1:01:31 650,276
1:01:34 was the amount that we will get for each
1:01:36 year.
1:01:39 And so again, this is just an overview.
1:01:41 So, I'm not going to go into I I know
1:01:43 more was going to pull up how that broke
1:01:45 out into each of the groups, but what I
1:01:47 really want to focus on tonight is did
1:01:50 you we had last time we talked about the
1:01:53 the process tools, the review process
1:01:57 tools, and so there was share one app,
1:01:59 which you should all have access to, and
1:02:01 then there were also the PDF files on
1:02:03 SharePoint.
1:02:04 >> Oh, and there was homework, right?
1:02:06 >> There was. So, we're we're getting to
1:02:08 that. Yes, you can do it.
1:02:10 >> But I' I've done it before. So,
1:02:14 >> okay. And let's see. Okay. Over here,
1:02:17 right?
1:02:18 >> Yeah. I mean, I just reviewed like one
1:02:20 application.
1:02:20 >> Yeah.
1:02:23 >> Well, it sounds like my is all done.
1:02:25 >> Yeah,
1:02:25 >> I know.
1:02:29 >> Oh, you want to share?
1:02:31 >> I just want to scroll over. Maybe I can
1:02:33 do it this way.
1:02:36 >> No, I just want to go over to the next
1:02:37 slide. Oh, let's go back to
1:02:50 >> There we go. Okay.
1:02:52 >> Did it go? It didn't go.
1:02:54 >> It's not changing on the screen.
1:02:58 >> Let's click on it. Okay. So, this was
1:03:00 your assignment. Your assignment was to
1:03:02 uh verify that you have access to your
1:03:05 applications. Was everyone able to do
1:03:07 that?
1:03:07 >> Yes.
1:03:08 >> And then
1:03:10 >> maybe maybe not. Okay, that's fine. We
1:03:12 have lots of time. That's the good news.
1:03:14 And then you are going to review one or
1:03:16 two of those applications or like my you
1:03:18 would review all of them
1:03:21 >> and then write down any questions or
1:03:23 observations that you had and then we
1:03:25 really wanted you to be able to use all
1:03:27 the tools and then write down any
1:03:29 questions, comments or edits that you
1:03:31 might have. So for tonight the
1:03:33 discussion will be first of all did you
1:03:35 have any trouble accessing the
1:03:37 applications
1:03:42 >> okay
1:03:44 no problems there
1:03:45 >> I do not know how to access
1:03:47 >> okay
1:03:48 >> okay so let me work with you
1:03:50 individually since you've been this
1:03:52 you're just kind of joining us and so
1:03:54 you and I will connect and
1:03:57 >> should I have received some guidance on
1:03:59 that or or was this a self-study
1:04:02 you should have received a link with all
1:04:04 of with the applications and with your
1:04:06 subgroup of applications. So if we don't
1:04:08 have that
1:04:09 >> then yeah we'll definitely
1:04:11 >> independent
1:04:12 >> but we'll get you to
1:04:15 >> yes and so the second question then is
1:04:18 is do you have any questions regarding
1:04:20 the application content?
1:04:25 >> I think it's pretty straightforward. I
1:04:26 mean, there's a lot of information in
1:04:28 there, but um you know, you don't
1:04:30 necessarily have to read it word for
1:04:32 word and understand everything, but
1:04:34 definitely, you know, have a pretty good
1:04:36 understanding of what they're asking for
1:04:38 and and then definitely any questions
1:04:41 when you get ready to meet in your
1:04:43 subgroup. So, you can talk that out with
1:04:45 >> and the purpose. There's no difference
1:04:47 between share one and and and um share
1:04:50 point right?
1:04:51 >> Those are two different things. So,
1:04:53 share one is the is the application that
1:04:55 all the cities use.
1:04:57 >> Yes.
1:04:57 >> And you have um you have all been
1:05:00 granted access to that. That's what you
1:05:02 were talking about today that you didn't
1:05:03 have access and then we reached out to
1:05:05 all Alaric and now you do. I do.
1:05:07 >> So, that's all of the cities and that's
1:05:09 where the application was submitted.
1:05:12 >> Okay. And then what Hannah did and does
1:05:15 generally with this is she goes through
1:05:17 and puts everything to make it easier
1:05:19 for you instead of having to if you
1:05:21 don't want to access the share one app
1:05:23 you can use our SharePoint and we gave a
1:05:26 special permission for that. So you can
1:05:28 go in and just see our stuff.
1:05:30 >> Okay.
1:05:30 >> Which I think simplifies it quite a bit.
1:05:32 >> And it's digital. SharePoint is digital
1:05:35 whereas she one would be PDF files and
1:05:38 stuff like that.
1:05:39 >> Yeah. Okay.
1:05:42 Yeah. So again, Danielle and Micah, I'll
1:05:45 work with you um in the next couple of
1:05:48 days to make sure that you know how to
1:05:49 access those. Okay. So, what is your
1:05:52 current experience reviewing the
1:05:53 applications? What how's it looking?
1:05:55 Mory, you're all done. What do you
1:05:56 think?
1:05:57 >> Um it's good. I I you know, I I've uh I
1:06:02 have this group of of uh people that I'd
1:06:04 like to give money to. That totals about
1:06:07 $450,000
1:06:09 just for this small group. great out of
1:06:12 the 30 I wintered it down to I don't
1:06:15 know six or eight and and uh so there
1:06:18 you know it's a question of you know not
1:06:20 enough money how much how much are we
1:06:22 going to give these if those are the
1:06:23 ones we choose so that's why
1:06:26 >> yeah
1:06:28 my dad work for us
1:06:31 >> nice you have nothing left of you Daniel
1:06:35 >> has anyone else been to review any of
1:06:37 the applications
1:06:41 I only looked at one, but it was easy to
1:06:43 get in and out of the folders.
1:06:45 >> Okay. And did you use SharePoint or
1:06:46 SharePoint?
1:06:47 >> Uh, I do both, but I like I prefer
1:06:49 SharePoint.
1:06:50 >> Yeah.
1:06:50 >> Yeah.
1:06:51 >> Okay. I do too.
1:06:53 >> I use the one that Hannah set up for us.
1:06:56 >> Yes. Yeah, that's SharePoint.
1:06:58 >> Okay.
1:06:59 >> Okay. You know, Mori, I might have
1:07:02 misspoke. Maybe maybe Hannah said
1:07:06 she would figure out the breakout of the
1:07:08 monies between the subgroups later.
1:07:10 >> No, she did. She gave an estimate for
1:07:12 that and it it was on previous slides,
1:07:16 >> but and I can get that for you.
1:07:18 >> I'm looking for it now.
1:07:19 >> I also have the name the the names of
1:07:22 who's on each group
1:07:24 >> if you want that.
1:07:26 >> Yeah, sure. You can you can tell us
1:07:28 that.
1:07:29 >> Okay. The physical behavioral health is
1:07:32 uh Jamie and Ray and and Huma
1:07:38 and the housing is Trish, Mory, and
1:07:40 Danielle. Community um
1:07:44 um resources is uh Meline, JD, and
1:07:49 Micah.
1:07:52 >> There it is.
1:07:54 >> Yeah.
1:07:57 >> Okay. Is there any other discussion that
1:07:59 you would like to have about the
1:08:01 process?
1:08:01 >> Yes.
1:08:02 >> Okay.
1:08:04 >> So, um Moraurice's um been able to look
1:08:06 at everything and he's come to sort of a
1:08:10 um conclusion um where preliminary
1:08:12 conclusion on where he'd like to go. Um
1:08:15 is that generally how it works? We all
1:08:16 look at them individually and then we
1:08:18 come together.
1:08:19 >> Yes, absolutely.
1:08:21 >> Yeah.
1:08:21 >> And and then we hash it out.
1:08:23 >> Yes. Okay.
1:08:24 >> And when you're in that group, Hannah
1:08:26 has a spreadsheet and she'll be asking
1:08:28 you like, "Okay, you're a green, you're
1:08:30 a yellow, you're a red.
1:08:32 >> What are the questions? What is the
1:08:33 discussion?" And then you'll come
1:08:35 together and you'll make that decision
1:08:36 based on that additional information
1:08:38 that's provided. You don't have to do
1:08:40 that all in in one subgroup. You'll
1:08:42 probably meet two to three times in each
1:08:44 of your subgroups in August. And so,
1:08:47 you'll really be able to hash out all
1:08:49 the questions. What happens if if you
1:08:52 can't agree?
1:08:54 >> Well, you we will
1:08:55 >> I think you will. I think I think using
1:08:57 the tools that you have,
1:08:58 >> I think you'll have enough structure and
1:09:00 enough check boxes that we've talked
1:09:02 about that you'll get to a place where
1:09:04 like yeah, definitely on the same page.
1:09:07 Um I will find that I at the equity
1:09:10 meeting the um
1:09:13 um person that was leading the
1:09:15 discussion was saying
1:09:17 um you shouldn't go through and um
1:09:21 immediately focus on who you want to
1:09:22 eliminate.
1:09:25 >> Do you remember them saying that? And we
1:09:28 actually do you guys. So that's one of
1:09:31 our assignments I think before we meet
1:09:33 as a subgroup is to have figured out who
1:09:37 you want to be in the red. There's red,
1:09:38 yellow, and green
1:09:40 >> and who who you want to be in the red
1:09:42 and then Yeah. And then the yellow and
1:09:44 the green. But yeah, I mean we do go
1:09:46 through and figure out who we want to
1:09:48 eliminate right away.
1:09:49 >> I think Hannah said last time like at
1:09:51 least 50% you need to put in the red.
1:09:54 >> Say it again.
1:09:54 >> I think Hannah said it was like at least
1:09:57 >> Yeah.
1:09:57 >> has to go in the red.
1:09:59 >> Yeah. which is
1:10:00 >> I think it's still accurate though when
1:10:01 you're when you're reviewing it when
1:10:03 you're reading it for the first time. I
1:10:04 still think you can use that lens of
1:10:06 >> I'm not trying to eliminate. I'm trying
1:10:08 to find the strengths and the good and
1:10:10 ultimately it's still a no. And so I
1:10:12 still come up with that list of
1:10:14 >> I mean and again my major priority is
1:10:16 okay can people in Isiqua get to this
1:10:18 place
1:10:20 >> and then if they can't it's a no it's a
1:10:23 >> Yeah.
1:10:23 >> I'm sure there's certain guidelines. Are
1:10:25 we can you approve like a partial amount
1:10:28 or is it a straight yes or no? like or
1:10:30 can we say we'll 50% fund them or
1:10:33 they're asking for 40,000 and we give
1:10:36 them 20,000 or is it just yes or no?
1:10:39 >> No, it the the you first decide if it's
1:10:42 a a yes or a no and then the the funding
1:10:45 amount comes in because you only have so
1:10:47 much to work with in the budget.
1:10:49 >> And so definitely there are a lot of
1:10:51 people who I mean we had someone say
1:10:53 today they're asking for $100,000.
1:10:55 >> Most people don't most applications
1:10:57 don't get what they
1:10:58 >> That's what I was wondering. Okay.
1:11:00 Gotcha.
1:11:01 >> You know, the first round is, you know,
1:11:02 choosing your color. And I would say too
1:11:04 is you're all selected for a reason. You
1:11:07 know, you guys are bringing your own
1:11:09 reality, your own perspective. So, if
1:11:11 there's certain agencies that you're
1:11:12 like, "Hey, that speaks to me." Mark it
1:11:15 down. You know, have a conversation,
1:11:18 >> you know. Um
1:11:20 and and that's why you meet with the
1:11:22 groups to say, "Hey, um there's this
1:11:24 comfort around that." And that's okay.
1:11:26 is saying, "Hey, this is important to me
1:11:27 and and and my reality, my world."
1:11:30 >> Yeah.
1:11:31 >> Um and that's why you're selected to be
1:11:34 on this commission is to do that to to
1:11:37 speak to those voices in the community.
1:11:39 I I I think that is so critical and so
1:11:42 important. Um you're selected for a
1:11:44 certain reason to be here. Um so don't
1:11:46 take this stuff lightly. You know, speak
1:11:48 to what's important to you and then have
1:11:51 a discussion. You know, there was a
1:11:52 couple of times in my sharing where me
1:11:55 and my other commission, we were in a
1:11:58 good dialogue and it was just like,
1:11:59 "Hey, here's what I'm seeing. I'm this
1:12:02 is what I'm seeing." And so then it's
1:12:03 like, "Okay, can we take a pause and
1:12:06 reflect and then come back at again?"
1:12:09 >> And so you're going to have those. Um,
1:12:11 so there's the strategic plan that we
1:12:14 have for the city of Isiqua, our equity
1:12:17 statement. uh those are all like I would
1:12:20 say uh documents of evidence to say hey
1:12:23 how do I compromise to that right and
1:12:26 also to just some of the realities that
1:12:28 we we're trying to serve here in the
1:12:30 community of Is right um so I'll give
1:12:32 you an example
1:12:34 uh what was it uh about a a few months
1:12:37 ago when ICE was going around our
1:12:39 communities and uh the mayor the board
1:12:43 they came to us and say hey there's
1:12:45 about $50,000 I think it was like
1:12:47 $50,000 000 75,000 we were trying to
1:12:49 like what does that mean and what's the
1:12:51 most going back to your point uh
1:12:53 commissioner man uh
1:12:55 >> or not
1:12:58 is that commissioner sh brought a good
1:13:00 point was that was we had the discussion
1:13:02 was do we do a peanut butter spread or
1:13:05 do we say who's doing the work right now
1:13:07 because there's an urgent need to have
1:13:10 and so the circle was like can we all
1:13:13 agree to the circle being closest to the
1:13:15 word and so we all voted on it. I think
1:13:18 it was about $50,000 and that
1:13:20 recommendation went down to the mayor
1:13:22 and the board and so forth. But you'll
1:13:25 you'll have instances like that where is
1:13:28 um discussions around it. You know, some
1:13:31 folks might say, "Hey, but I think we
1:13:32 all got together and say what's the best
1:13:34 bank for that?" And uh so versus the
1:13:36 peanut butter spread.
1:13:38 >> Um but I would say you're all selected
1:13:40 for a reason. And so, you know, have
1:13:42 those discussions, you know, have that's
1:13:43 why I I I I really was being intentional
1:13:46 around the biases conversations saying,
1:13:48 "Hey, because I'm I'm I'm going to miss
1:13:50 things." And so, how do how are we open
1:13:52 to that,
1:13:53 >> right?
1:13:54 >> And I will add that, okay, Hannah's
1:13:56 going to be in all these meetings, okay?
1:13:58 And Hannah will help guide us.
1:14:00 >> Yes.
1:14:00 >> And she will have an opinion.
1:14:03 >> She will have an opinion. And she's also
1:14:06 going to be able to tell us particularly
1:14:08 if a lot and a lot of these applications
1:14:09 will be repeats and she will tell us how
1:14:13 they performed last, you know, this last
1:14:15 granting cycle and any concerns she has
1:14:17 about them if we fund them again. So
1:14:20 Hannah will be a tiebreaker if we if it
1:14:23 comes to we can't make a decision or we
1:14:26 can't come to consensus. But I we always
1:14:29 come to consensus. Yeah.
1:14:30 >> Okay. For my fellow commissioners who
1:14:32 were at the Redmond meeting last week,
1:14:34 what was the one thing that they kept
1:14:36 saying over and over again that we that
1:14:39 was a bias? Do you recall?
1:14:42 >> There was one word that that that kept
1:14:44 coming up over and over again and it was
1:14:46 data.
1:14:47 >> So my question to you was is there a
1:14:50 tool that and I'm thinking spreadsheet
1:14:52 because I too am a spreadsheet person. I
1:14:55 can put because I'm in the in the the
1:14:58 share one application now that can pull
1:15:01 each one of these and pull them on a
1:15:02 common column and say oh this is the
1:15:05 statistics of how many ISO residents
1:15:07 this program serves and compare it to
1:15:09 another program and align it and say
1:15:12 this this is how many individuals it
1:15:13 serves.
1:15:14 >> Do you want to do that?
1:15:15 >> I believe I believe Hannah already has
1:15:17 that in a spreadsheet. Stay tuned.
1:15:20 >> No, because I I plan to cuz I did this
1:15:23 one with Morin and uh
1:15:26 >> Manny and I I made some changes to the
1:15:28 spreadsheet and I plan to go in there
1:15:30 probably make some changes. I I'll do it
1:15:32 just in ours. Our little subcommittee
1:15:35 spreadsheet unless
1:15:36 >> But no, what you do is that would be
1:15:38 fantastic. But if Hannah's already done
1:15:42 >> that was a really good that was really
1:15:43 good stuff too that you did for us that
1:15:46 really helped.
1:15:48 Fantastic. Okay.
1:15:50 >> All right. Well, let's go ahead and move
1:15:52 on then.
1:15:53 >> Okay. All right. Any other comments,
1:15:55 thoughts from the group?
1:15:56 >> I'll just add really quickly. So, at the
1:15:58 last meeting that we had, if you go into
1:16:00 like the city of Isiquad, like to the
1:16:02 past agendas.
1:16:05 >> Um there is so it this will be my first
1:16:08 funding year as well. And one thing that
1:16:11 was like really really helpful just like
1:16:14 when you open the SharePoint it was a
1:16:17 little overwhelming and that's why I was
1:16:18 like okay we're going to do one and then
1:16:20 we'll come back. Um but we have like um
1:16:23 Ha mentioned the strategic plan and
1:16:26 that's attached on like last month's
1:16:28 agenda and then um I think you know we
1:16:31 keep talking about the tool but I don't
1:16:32 know if you guys have seen it but this
1:16:34 is the tool and so that's like a really
1:16:36 easy way to say like yes maybe or no.
1:16:40 Um, and it I think this is one thing
1:16:42 that was kind of missed during the
1:16:45 training last week. They kept saying
1:16:47 like, you know, don't let your biases
1:16:49 get in the way and like don't let data
1:16:51 get in the way and kind of like we do
1:16:55 have areas that the city has determined
1:16:57 like these are the areas of need for the
1:16:59 city. Like there was a whole um study or
1:17:03 >> strategic plan has
1:17:06 Yeah. And so I think that was like
1:17:07 obviously I understand where the
1:17:08 training was coming from of like don't
1:17:11 don't let your biases get in the way but
1:17:13 for the city of Isiqua which is like at
1:17:14 least like how I see myself as like I'm
1:17:16 a servant of the city.
1:17:18 >> Um this is what I follow and it can also
1:17:22 like help take myself out of the
1:17:24 equation. Um yeah so like that helped a
1:17:28 >> and just like some of the things that
1:17:30 I'm like thinking about so you don't I
1:17:32 don't get overwhelmed when I open a
1:17:33 SharePoint again. Yeah,
1:17:37 >> and it's helpful because I think to your
1:17:39 bias question like for the first one
1:17:40 that said then only we serve 10% of
1:17:42 their population serves as like I I'd be
1:17:45 curious based on guidelines and the
1:17:47 stuff that I'll look at like does that
1:17:49 not meet a threshold or do we need to
1:17:51 hit a higher percentage of their people
1:17:53 >> for us to fund it? Um and that could
1:17:56 definitely be a bias or is that just us
1:17:58 following the guidelines that Isiqua Yes
1:18:00 wants us to.
1:18:01 >> Yeah. But I heard that and I was like,
1:18:03 "Oh, I don't know if that's high enough,
1:18:04 but that might be a bias and
1:18:06 >> or that might just be us listening to
1:18:08 the guidelines." So,
1:18:09 >> yeah. And I think at the training like
1:18:10 anything was kind of like, "Oh, that's a
1:18:12 bias." And I was like, "Okay, we always
1:18:14 have a strategic plan."
1:18:17 >> So, it's like having that balance of,
1:18:19 you know, we have direction and like
1:18:21 obviously understand where the trainers
1:18:23 were coming from, but like we have a
1:18:25 direction that we need to follow.
1:18:26 >> Yeah.
1:18:26 >> Help simplify it.
1:18:29 >> Absolutely.
1:18:30 >> Direction. And I would say again, you're
1:18:33 all selected for a reason, right? You
1:18:36 know, your your identity, your your
1:18:40 experiences, you know, just like is it
1:18:43 was it Jamie, right? She's new to give
1:18:45 it develop that new website having
1:18:46 having a powerful testimony. Folks are
1:18:49 grassroot is something, you know, she
1:18:53 might not have a proven track record,
1:18:54 but I know she's trying to help our
1:18:56 young our our folks in Isiqua, right? So
1:18:59 just I would say just again uh be
1:19:01 mindful advocate and have those
1:19:03 discussions you know because we do go
1:19:04 into the tier system with with with
1:19:05 Hannah you do the yellow green and then
1:19:08 you're like okay how do we compromise
1:19:09 and the second round is like the funding
1:19:11 how much is being dedicated to the
1:19:12 funding on that. So um have fun
1:19:16 >> might be a silly question I've gotten
1:19:18 emails from Hannah. What is Hannah's
1:19:19 role exactly?
1:19:20 >> So Hannah is the senior human services
1:19:22 coordinator and all of this is her role.
1:19:26 >> So we all serve Hannah.
1:19:27 >> Yes. Well, and then Hannah went on
1:19:29 maternity leave and had beautiful little
1:19:31 twin girls.
1:19:32 >> Oh, yes.
1:19:32 >> In the middle of the grant season.
1:19:36 >> Ah, okay.
1:19:37 >> So, yes, she will be back. And but she
1:19:40 requested and I am actually leaving as
1:19:42 you all know. And so, um, our timing
1:19:45 kind of missed a little bit with life.
1:19:48 >> We'll be fine.
1:19:49 >> But yes, you'll be fine. And and all of
1:19:51 that to say, uh, yeah, that is her role.
1:19:53 This is her baby. Cool. and she
1:19:55 requested to come back in August and
1:19:56 meet with you all in the subgroup. So,
1:19:59 she will be back to help you through
1:20:00 that. And what that also means, I'll
1:20:03 just kind of say this and then we can
1:20:04 wrap up this section, but um what that
1:20:07 also means is you have the next two
1:20:10 months to be looking through those and
1:20:12 making your decisions. So, um take your
1:20:15 time, you know, go through them
1:20:17 thoroughly and then be ready. Hannah
1:20:19 will get you all straightened out in
1:20:21 August and make sure that you're all on
1:20:22 the same page. So
1:20:25 >> that's great. That's helpful.
1:20:26 >> Brenda,
1:20:27 >> yes. More
1:20:28 >> is it would it be it seems to me that it
1:20:32 might be good for us to meet a couple of
1:20:34 times as in our little subgroups before
1:20:37 Hannah comes back in August.
1:20:39 >> So we're so we're ready to engage with
1:20:43 >> No, that that was done intentionally.
1:20:45 Normally you would be meeting in July in
1:20:47 your subgroups with her or I but because
1:20:50 or I'm sorry in June but with me
1:20:52 transitioning out we opted just to push
1:20:55 it back and have all of that happen in
1:20:57 August. So you will get
1:20:58 >> when we when we've done it in previous
1:21:00 years we haven't met with Hannah at the
1:21:03 beginning. We usually would hash it out
1:21:05 a little bit first and then meet with
1:21:07 Hannah.
1:21:08 >> Right. Well, she will be she'll be
1:21:10 scheduling meetings for all of your
1:21:12 subgroups. So that's not anything that
1:21:13 you have to do on your own.
1:21:15 >> Okay. So, but if we want to,
1:21:17 >> I would recommend that you wait for her
1:21:19 to schedule those subgroup meetings so
1:21:22 that you're all on the same page. That's
1:21:25 my recommendation.
1:21:28 Um, again, it's a little bit backwards
1:21:30 because normally you would be starting
1:21:32 the subgroups right away, but now you
1:21:34 just have additional time to look
1:21:36 through those and we have plenty of time
1:21:38 before we have to get this information
1:21:40 to council. So, uh, I know it seems
1:21:43 weird, Mory, because it's flipped. It's
1:21:45 backwards, but that's what I would
1:21:46 suggest is that you just go with it. Um,
1:21:49 do your do all of your ratings
1:21:51 individually and read through those and
1:21:53 then she will schedule all of those
1:21:55 meetings.
1:21:58 >> I wanted to ask cuz you were asking
1:22:00 about guidelines. Do you do you feel
1:22:03 like you know what what we all are
1:22:05 supposed to do before we show up to our
1:22:07 first meeting with Hannah? I think I
1:22:09 have enough time to figure that out.
1:22:10 >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And that's where I'll
1:22:12 meet with
1:22:13 >> You're gonna meet with that.
1:22:16 >> So, I'm okay with Mory. I'm I could
1:22:18 sense your uh disease with the uh the
1:22:22 change, but I feel really good about it
1:22:24 because it gives me time to to
1:22:26 familiarize myself before I get together
1:22:28 with such experienced raiders.
1:22:31 >> Yeah.
1:22:33 >> I would I would say to that is take your
1:22:35 time on that really. You know, I I I I'm
1:22:37 I'm going to give you when I started
1:22:38 this was like six six years ago. I I got
1:22:41 the applications right. I did like all
1:22:43 95 when it was like I it was only
1:22:45 supposed to be 30 and I pull an
1:22:47 allnighter just like oh I'm so stressed
1:22:49 out. I'm around focus. I know it more
1:22:51 than I and so and this is just me and
1:22:54 and I was and then I ended up being a
1:22:57 group and I'm like 30 I did I'm 95
1:23:02 so I didn't excel. So again,
1:23:06 take your time reviewing them. Um, and
1:23:08 so I'm just g to my person. I did review
1:23:11 all 95 and I scored over
1:23:14 >> and I will not and so when I was
1:23:16 relieving I was like it was only 34 what
1:23:18 it was.
1:23:20 So um I'm just sharing that example to
1:23:23 relieve some I see somebody like okay
1:23:25 you're you're you're a good company
1:23:27 >> this. Yes. Um, any reports from chair
1:23:31 and or commissioner reports for 5A from
1:23:34 the group?
1:23:37 >> I think you have a report for us.
1:23:40 >> I do have a report. I'm going to say so
1:23:42 this is a little different. So I would
1:23:43 say on Sunday we had our Asian-American
1:23:47 Pacific Islander Heritage Month
1:23:49 celebration
1:23:50 >> and we had it here at the Isiqua
1:23:52 Community Center. It was fabulous.
1:23:54 Awesome. Around including the dragon
1:23:56 lion dance, Japanese school of drums, uh
1:24:00 tah tahian
1:24:03 >> tahesian hoola dance. Uh it was uh the
1:24:07 aa aapi cultures within our community.
1:24:10 The event was free, open to the public.
1:24:12 So it was great to see um just a
1:24:15 multicultural
1:24:17 uh uh event down at the community
1:24:19 center. And so it was cool to see kids
1:24:21 just run around, dance, uh, and embrace
1:24:24 the cultural. So I just want to make as
1:24:26 an announcement that I know we have two
1:24:28 new board members. Uh, and so we do
1:24:31 have, one of the things I joined the
1:24:33 commission was to be intentional around
1:24:36 my footprint when it came to our our our
1:24:39 diversity, equity, inclusion here. So I
1:24:41 would encourage folks to kind of check
1:24:43 it out. We have a cultural fest coming
1:24:45 up. It is so awesome to see it happen.
1:24:47 So awesome to see people with our
1:24:49 community come out express themselves.
1:24:53 Uh it it just brings uh music to me. It
1:24:56 what we say it it feeds my soul.
1:24:59 >> So I would say please do that and and
1:25:01 and trust me it will make this grant
1:25:03 funding a lot easier as you because some
1:25:05 of those folks do attend uh uh our
1:25:08 cultural facilities.
1:25:12 so there's no press in today.
1:25:15 um in terms of uh reports. So that would
1:25:18 that be
1:25:20 >> Yeah, I have a staff report. Not not an
1:25:22 official report, but I just want to give
1:25:23 you a couple of brief announcements. Uh
1:25:26 like Haime said, CultureFest is going to
1:25:28 be coming up. It's scheduled for Friday,
1:25:30 September 18th at 5:30.
1:25:32 >> Please turn it. That's awesome.
1:25:33 >> A couple of things to follow up on. The
1:25:35 mayor did meet with the nonprofit
1:25:37 organization uh group. We met April
1:25:39 30th. Some of you had asked questions
1:25:41 about that. he intends to continue
1:25:43 meeting with our nonprofits just to be
1:25:45 able to um to keep up to date on some of
1:25:48 the federal changes, the the impacts
1:25:51 that they're experiencing with different
1:25:52 things that are happening, current
1:25:54 events. And so that was a great u
1:25:56 opportunity to get together with all of
1:25:58 our nonprofits and just hear from them.
1:26:00 It was very well attended. and mayor I
1:26:03 think plans to put uh we'll put I think
1:26:06 take a break in the summer and then
1:26:08 maybe meet back in late summer after
1:26:10 people have kind of finished traveling a
1:26:12 little bit and then those will have the
1:26:15 the cadence will be about two to three
1:26:16 times a year but he definitely continues
1:26:19 to or plans to continue what Mayor Polly
1:26:21 started so we're excited about that and
1:26:24 then uh others asked about the transit
1:26:27 oriented development u just to give you
1:26:30 a brief update on that we continue to
1:26:32 meet with interested parties with that
1:26:34 transit oriented development project and
1:26:37 we um I was in a meeting just this week
1:26:40 with a partner who's very very
1:26:42 interested and so we'll continue
1:26:43 following up and when we have more more
1:26:46 information that we can report out we
1:26:47 will but it does look like it's moving
1:26:49 forward and and they will the housing
1:26:52 structure will actually break ground in
1:26:54 July so they're in the permitting
1:26:56 process right now but some good things
1:26:58 happening there
1:26:59 >> you want to explain to the new people
1:27:00 about the behavioral health component of
1:27:03 the tod.
1:27:04 >> Yes. So there because of of funding that
1:27:08 happened many years ago that that money
1:27:10 was tied to having behavioral health or
1:27:12 mental health or and even physical
1:27:15 health services. So we're looking for a
1:27:17 tenant who can come in and be able to
1:27:19 provide kind of our anchor tenant who
1:27:22 can come in and provide those key
1:27:23 services that Isiqua really needs. And
1:27:26 the city is not looking to make a profit
1:27:28 on that. where we'll be, you know, that
1:27:30 space will be leased out at below market
1:27:33 value just so that we can give these
1:27:35 nonprofits an opportunity to come in and
1:27:37 provide the services we really need. So,
1:27:40 looking forward to that.
1:27:40 >> And then there will be apartments for
1:27:42 rent.
1:27:42 >> Yeah, the apartments will be uh between
1:27:44 30 and 80%
1:27:46 um AMI and then one of the buildings
1:27:48 will actually be full market rate. So,
1:27:50 we'll have a lot of a lot more choices
1:27:52 in Isaqua for housing. So, very excited
1:27:55 about that.
1:27:55 >> Yes.
1:27:56 >> Where's going to be? It's across from
1:27:58 the transit station.
1:28:01 >> Yes.
1:28:02 >> Behind it kind of. I guess. Yeah. Behind
1:28:06 >> That's already been determined where
1:28:08 it's going to be.
1:28:09 >> Yes, it has.
1:28:10 >> Oh, okay.
1:28:12 >> Ground groundbreaking coming soon.
1:28:15 >> And then on Monday, we were at the city
1:28:18 council meeting. If any of you were
1:28:19 there, we recognized um former council
1:28:22 member Barb D. Michelle. It was a a
1:28:25 great tribute to her. It was great to
1:28:27 see her and and have her um receive that
1:28:30 recommend recognition from the community
1:28:33 and from the fellow council members. We
1:28:35 also recognized um Chief Paula Swan who
1:28:37 will be who's retiring. She'll be
1:28:39 leaving in June. So that was really fun
1:28:42 to be a part of. And then the final
1:28:47 announcement is just again staff
1:28:49 updates. I will be with the city until
1:28:51 the end of June. Um, I will actually
1:28:55 only been be in office until the end of
1:28:57 May. So, please feel free to reach out
1:28:59 to me with questions. I'll be working
1:29:01 with the two of you additionally. And
1:29:04 um, we don't have all of the answers
1:29:06 right now, but things are coming
1:29:07 together. My director has been on
1:29:09 vacation. He returns next week and we
1:29:12 can kind of um, continue to piece things
1:29:14 together, but I know that that you're
1:29:17 going to be in good hands and we're
1:29:19 we're going to get we're going to work
1:29:20 through it. So, and then uh, Hi, May. I
1:29:23 think you have additional
1:29:25 >> I would say things come in seasons as
1:29:27 they say, right?
1:29:28 >> Yes.
1:29:28 >> You know, unfortunately I've
1:29:31 >> um I want to say unfortunately is uh I
1:29:33 was talking to Brenda and chatting with
1:29:34 Hannah is that um I've been trying to
1:29:38 get my clinical supervising as a social
1:29:39 worker. So um I was talking to Ray and
1:29:43 so I'm going to be pretty busy with the
1:29:44 top of my job and then trying to get my
1:29:47 clinical hours and so something had to
1:29:48 give and I was like I can't do
1:29:51 everything. And so even that itself 40
1:29:53 hours plus clinic hours is going to be a
1:29:56 lot. Um but this so unfortunately I I
1:29:59 will have to step down. Um and so this
1:30:02 is it was not an easy decision and u
1:30:04 I've been involved for five six years
1:30:07 and seeing new folks you know having the
1:30:10 same advocacy brings a smile to me. You
1:30:13 know I I think we we need more people
1:30:15 like you all to continue the fight
1:30:17 continue to vocalize that. That's the
1:30:19 reason why I got um I say that because I
1:30:22 was um I worked at city of Belleview. I
1:30:25 was a paid intern at the time for human
1:30:27 services and that's why I knew about
1:30:28 human services. This is back in 2014
1:30:31 and so this when maybe had like half an
1:30:34 FTE on the human services side and so
1:30:37 I've seen it evolve and grow to you know
1:30:40 a couple of staff strategic plans at the
1:30:42 time didn't have a strategic plan or an
1:30:44 equity statement. And so it it it that's
1:30:47 kind of how I knew about human services
1:30:49 and I was like okay let me get when I
1:30:50 was kind of getting with my career like
1:30:52 let me get involved with the human
1:30:53 service here in cities as well and um so
1:30:56 I've been here for five six years and
1:30:58 hopefully it's not a it's not a for
1:31:01 everything hopefully I do come back um
1:31:03 but I wanted to say um for August we'll
1:31:05 be having you know the the conversations
1:31:07 of a chair and vice chair u please work
1:31:10 with with Hannah and Brenda to if your
1:31:13 folks are interested it's It's a
1:31:15 position of the community. That's the
1:31:17 way I look at it. There is no ego. It's
1:31:20 how do we support you all to the to the
1:31:23 faces and and the I think about that
1:31:25 example of uh of ICE and the $50,000 and
1:31:27 how to make an impact. That was all you
1:31:30 >> You know, we all had a decision around
1:31:32 that. We could have said no, yes,
1:31:34 modified it, but we all made
1:31:36 recommendations. And one of the things I
1:31:37 would say to this group is the mayor
1:31:41 does listen. They do take our feedback.
1:31:44 um to to that conversation around the
1:31:47 construction. I was asked to can I can I
1:31:50 speak on that and and and have a
1:31:52 conversation on the human services side.
1:31:55 So I I would say the this is a position
1:31:57 that's not lightly. So um I will I will
1:32:00 be stepping out and putting the work to
1:32:02 you all and hopefully still be connected
1:32:04 in a different way. And I thank you so
1:32:07 much for your all like um love and care.
1:32:10 Uh it means a lot to me. So,
1:32:12 >> so Hime are you not going to be in?
1:32:15 You're not doing the grants.
1:32:16 >> This is it. Today is my last day.
1:32:19 >> It's my last day.
1:32:20 >> We'll be missed.
1:32:21 >> Hi May.
1:32:26 >> Things coming soon.
1:32:27 >> We will miss you.
1:32:28 >> We'll see you around town,
1:32:29 >> you know. So
1:32:30 >> he's not leaving town. That's a good
1:32:31 thing.
1:32:33 >> Uh but I I would say too, you know, I I
1:32:35 always say this, you know, things are
1:32:37 never permanent. I think it's the
1:32:39 opportunity for someone to step up step
1:32:41 up and um I I really believe that I it's
1:32:44 uh I'm always happy to let something go
1:32:47 and let the baton be carried with
1:32:49 someone else and I I I love that. I love
1:32:52 I I I to me is when we were having
1:32:55 conversations in the beginning was we
1:32:58 all have people that care for this work.
1:32:59 You know, you're all taking time out of
1:33:01 your day to volunteer. Um, and so I I I
1:33:05 I think that's very critical and
1:33:07 important and it's in good hands. So I
1:33:10 thank you all. This will be my last one.
1:33:13 So hopefully in the future I'll come
1:33:14 back, but for now
1:33:16 >> is I look forward to connecting with you
1:33:18 in a cultural fest on the community. So
1:33:21 thank you so much for your for your
1:33:23 guys' uh support.
1:33:24 >> Thank you.
1:33:25 >> Good luck in your next chapter.
1:33:27 >> I try to get emotional.
1:33:30 >> I do I do have something for the good of
1:33:32 the order.
1:33:33 >> Yes.
1:33:33 >> Okay. But I I'll wait till you are we
1:33:36 there
1:33:36 >> I think as far as a staff announcements
1:33:38 staff report um Brenda um I think any
1:33:42 other business or announcements from the
1:33:43 group
1:33:45 >> that'll be your cue there.
1:33:47 >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Um, I just
1:33:50 wanted to say that um, I don't know if
1:33:52 people are aware, but the um, Chamber of
1:33:54 Commerce does their community awards
1:33:56 once a year and it was last Thursday and
1:33:59 I attended um, as a um, officer in the
1:34:04 um, nonprofit influence the choice which
1:34:07 helps um, young young people with their
1:34:11 well-being and um, trying to encourage
1:34:14 them um, not to use substances among
1:34:16 other things. Um and um we do a award
1:34:21 once a year to um somebody who has been
1:34:25 very impactful in our community with
1:34:27 young people and I would I had the
1:34:29 privilege of giving it to Barb bar de
1:34:31 Michelle um she couldn't attend. She's I
1:34:35 don't I don't know if and she told me
1:34:38 she and I are good friends so she told
1:34:39 me she's very open about this
1:34:41 information and it was it always is
1:34:43 helpful so people can know you know to
1:34:46 share. Um she had a stroke in January
1:34:50 and um she has rehab pretty well and um
1:34:55 but she is and she can walk. She's
1:34:57 learning how to rewalk. She lost all of
1:35:00 her mobility on her left side and um
1:35:03 she's regained it in her left leg, but
1:35:06 um she is still working and this is
1:35:08 apparently how it happens when you get a
1:35:10 stroke. The arm and the hand is the last
1:35:13 thing to return. And so she's working
1:35:15 with OT on that. But um but she was at
1:35:20 Monday's event.
1:35:21 >> Yes.
1:35:22 >> Yeah. And her son brought her there.
1:35:24 She's living in Covington with her son
1:35:25 right now.
1:35:27 >> Yeah.
1:35:28 >> Okay.
1:35:29 >> Yeah. So she luckily cognitively it
1:35:33 didn't impact her. She might say it did
1:35:36 because you know she has an excuse if
1:35:38 she forgets things now.
1:35:40 >> Yeah. She was a big proponent for human
1:35:42 services.
1:35:43 >> Oh yeah. Absolutely.
1:35:44 >> That she I don't know if people are
1:35:46 aware she co-founded the garage with
1:35:48 Kaylee.
1:35:49 >> She did? I
1:35:50 >> Yeah. Well, she I I contacted Kaylee
1:35:52 when I knew I was going to do the
1:35:54 presentation. I said, "Kaylee, what was
1:35:55 Barb's role in the garage?" She said,
1:35:57 "Oh, she co-ounded it with me."
1:35:59 >> Yeah. Yeah. She co-ounded it. So,
1:36:02 >> thank you, Trish. Appreciate that.
1:36:04 >> All right. So, we will not be having a
1:36:07 meeting June or July. That'll be
1:36:10 cancelled. So, our next meeting will be
1:36:13 scheduled for August 19th, 2026. In the
1:36:16 meantime, please uh review the
1:36:19 applications, make your notes, work with
1:36:21 Brenda and Hannah. And Hannah, it sounds
1:36:23 like Hannah's going to make some sort of
1:36:25 uh meetings come August around this
1:36:28 work.
1:36:29 >> Um so, and we do have time. I I remember
1:36:32 last time we working a little early. Uh
1:36:34 so, we do have time. So please, you
1:36:36 know, do work with Brenda and um and
1:36:39 Anna for those questions about that.
1:36:42 All right. Well, mean is ajourned 809
1:36:46 May 20th.
1:36:48 >> Thank you, Jamie.
1:36:50 >> Thank you.
1:36:50 >> Thanks, Hime.
1:36:52 >> Good one. Y'all take care.
1:36:53 >> Thanks, Hime.
1:36:55 >> Thank you.
1:37:01 >> Did you turn up the recording?
1:37:05 Okay.
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