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Wednesday, November 6, 2024

6:00 PM
Topic tracked across meetings:
Cultural & Religious Calendar Review AB 8746 6/6
Section
Topic
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
3a
Minutes of September 4, 2024 Meeting and November 16, 2024 Joint Meeting with Human Services Commission
packet pp.3–8
Topics: Equity
Staff report:
Facilitated by: Dale Markey-Crimp, Assistant to the City Administrator Board members discussed two recent emails that were sent to the board on the topic of equity as it pertains to the update to the Comprehensive Plan and the new Urban Forest Management Plan.
4. CHAIR REPORT
4a
Opening Question
5 min · Priti Mody-Pan, Equity Board Chair
5. STAFF REPORT
5a
Actions Since September 2024 Meeting
5 min · Dale Markey-Crimp, Assistant to the City Administrator
6. AGENDA ITEMS
6a
Cultural & Religious Calendar Review
10 min · Dale Markey-Crimp, Assistant to the City Administrator · packet pp.9–10
Topics: Arts & Culture
Staff report:
City of Issaquah 2025 Cultural & Religious Holidays January
6b
DEIB Glossary
Action · 30 min · Dale Markey-Crimp, Assistant to the City Administrator · packet pp.11–38
Staff report:
Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging Glossary The ongoing dialogue around diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging (DEIB) is broad and growing. This necessitates shared and common vocabulary to avoid misunderstandings and misinterpretations. Words often have different meanings; depending on lived experiences, words might hold different meanings for different people.
6c
School Zone Safety Cameras - Equity Impact Assessment (D)
40 min · Dale Markey-Crimp, Assistant to the City Administrator · packet pp.39–64
Topics: Public SafetyEquity
Staff report:
Obtain Equity Board feedback and input on the draft equity
0:02 moment it's good right so it is uh
0:06 November 6 6:08 pm and I called this
0:11 meeting of the equity board to order and
0:14 um I think Dale can I have your
0:16 assistance with the roll call absolutely
0:20 um we have one two three four five
0:23 excused absences this evening um and
0:27 which means we'll do a quick roll call
0:28 of the folks that are in attendance
0:30 starting with Ray
0:32 manahan here uh Varn
0:36 Koka here pry mod pan here Leslie
0:41 melinder Irwin here and Kelly man here
0:44 who will be serving as a full voting
0:45 member this
0:47 evening great so then next up on the
0:50 agenda is public comments and I believe
0:54 we have um Ted buas yeah yes okay up to
0:59 give popup
1:00 comments I join you for a second great
1:04 to see you and
1:09 well and hi everybody out there this is
1:12 our next um and you guys have been big
1:14 supporters and frequent attenders at the
1:16 next Community Building social so I'm
1:18 going we sent the invitation to D
1:20 electronically so you have it there but
1:23 you love our colorful invitations
1:26 here and please and I'll leave a few
1:30 extras and we uh in some way or another
1:33 inviting the mayor in the mayor's office
1:35 as well and all of you as Equity board
1:37 members to a very very interesting
1:42 special edition of the next social
1:45 because the guest speakers are three
1:46 members of the isaa city
1:48 council uh Chris Ray Victoria hunt and
1:51 to La
1:53 Mars yeah so that's amazing and
1:57 interesting and exciting and uh through
2:00 Barbara de Michelle who attended one a
2:01 couple of them already of can it was her
2:04 idea and
2:05 she initiated you know on her part uh a
2:09 request or would it be fine for City
2:12 Council Members to attend on and share
2:16 what the city council is doing to build
2:19 community build Society making mus
2:22 welcoming Community whatever they want
2:24 to say sense right that can't be more
2:27 than three so we're talking about three
2:29 there and I think there'll be plenty of
2:31 room for questions and answers and
2:33 that's what everybody wants that kind of
2:34 community engagement conversation about
2:36 Community Building from our city council
2:39 members so we're that's just fantastic
2:41 over the mo so please attend if any of
2:44 you can and of course you can bring
2:46 family members and Friends people of all
2:48 ages and it's you the program is about
2:51 an hour including question answer then
2:54 it's food dinner and social talking get
2:56 to know each other have this address
2:58 plenty of parking it's like some right
3:01 here close by and uh we've had and held
3:04 up there many times before so actually
3:06 bar Melle was there other St um so Ray
3:10 and others out there please I think this
3:13 will be a really good one join us that's
3:17 it thanks very much thank you love you
3:23 guys um and I don't believe there's any
3:27 other public comments and we did not
3:28 receive any virtu public comment ahead
3:30 of tonight's meeting either okay so then
3:33 we'll move on to approval of minutes
3:37 I'll give folks maybe a couple of
3:38 minutes to quickly scan the minutes in
3:41 the port packet and then when ready um
3:44 I'll request or someone may make a
3:46 motion to
3:48 approve let's just give it two
3:58 minutes for
4:29 I'll make a motion to approve do we have
4:32 a second
4:35 yes okay and a
4:37 third all right uh let's see now we can
4:40 we have some time for discussion any uh
4:43 Corrections or amendments um anyone like
4:52 make okay so I think with that we have
4:55 approved our two sets of meeting minutes
4:58 uh for September
5:00 4th and then for our joint meeting on
5:04 October
5:05 16th all
5:08 right so now uh we are on to the chair
5:12 report and so uh I guess we'll start
5:15 with our opening question and um I guess
5:19 you know I was thinking about the
5:20 question earlier today because I I know
5:23 it this might be a hard day for some
5:25 folks given it's the day after the
5:27 election and um
5:30 so I really appreciate all of you who
5:33 are able to be present today and make
5:35 sure we have this Quorum so thank you
5:37 all um so I was in a meeting earlier
5:40 today and a colleague suggested this as
5:42 an icebreaker question and it really did
5:44 lift my mood and so I was going to
5:46 suggest we use it here and that question
5:49 is what is something that's happened in
5:51 the last few days that has brought a
5:53 smile to your
5:55 face and if nothing is coming up for you
5:58 you can feel free to pass it to the next
6:00 person so who would like to go
6:06 first I'll go first uh a p a friend of
6:10 mine texted me today texted me another
6:12 woman and said I need Fellowship today
6:14 let's go do something and that just
6:17 lifted my spirits very good and so we
6:20 had a nice day looking at Christmas
6:23 stuff which is not something I normally
6:24 do because it was just pretty right it
6:27 was just pretty and F and that she
6:31 thought that we might all need
6:36 it I can go next um I was struggling for
6:40 an answer earlier today so but I did uh
6:44 reflect on so last week um our cat had
6:48 her birthday she Luna turned five and my
6:51 son picked up this little catnip toy for
6:53 her and she got so high on catnips I had
6:57 this picture of her with her eyes like
6:58 all dialing
7:00 and it just made me crap out that
7:03 brought a smile to my
7:05 face oh goodness we're ready you ready
7:09 to go yeah I'd love to um we have some
7:12 very close friends in the Seattle area
7:14 and we were um at a party to honor uh
7:18 one of her former classmates who became
7:20 an eagle scout and it was a wonderful
7:23 event they had lots of friends and
7:25 people who commanded her and while she
7:27 was up there she um shared the
7:29 relationship ship that she has with my
7:30 daughter because they went to school for
7:32 several years so that was just really
7:34 really inspirational on the effort that
7:36 she took to get to that level um uh so
7:39 it was really a wonderful event so I
7:41 wanted to share that with
7:42 you thanks
7:45 right okay
7:47 lesle gosh it has been a a tough day so
7:51 I really had to dig for this one um I
7:54 would say a couple of days ago we took
7:56 our son to um to a dinner just at um
8:00 Olive Garden and we had heard uh some
8:03 teenage uh sling we decided to torture
8:06 him with the fact that we his uncol
8:09 parents knew skib toilet so we just to
8:14 900 times out of context and I swear if
8:16 someone get just pulled up into a cringe
8:18 ball it would have been him just I was
8:20 like we know we know the secrets of
8:22 teenagers so it was fun just letting him
8:26 know know
8:31 okay and speaking of teenagers um I
8:33 don't know if verica is able to go off
8:36 mute and answer yeah um mine's
8:39 definitely not as exciting but I guess I
8:43 just finished my coding assignment after
8:45 like 10 hours so definitely much more
8:46 happier right now heck yeah
8:51 fantastic um maybe let's jump back to D
8:54 yeah and it looks like Shay has joined
8:56 us this is not AI notaker Shay up here
8:59 at this point Shay can you hear us I can
9:03 can you all hear me yes we can hear you
9:06 Frey just uh we're just doing our
9:08 opening question and um so we're just
9:11 all answering
9:12 that which may I'm sorry could you
9:15 repeat it for me yeah so um given that
9:18 today might be tough for folks um just
9:21 wanted uh you to reflect on something
9:24 that might have happened in the last few
9:26 days that brought a smile to your face
9:30 well um I would say that my co-pilot has
9:34 been super encouraging just about
9:38 everything and it's helped me kind of
9:40 just look at the brighter side of things
9:43 like things didn't necessarily go the
9:44 way I wanted but um on the brighter side
9:47 of things everybody survived and we all
9:50 made it through and it's all finally
9:52 over and we can all relax and take a
9:54 deep breath and think about all the
9:57 things that are most precious to us
10:01 than sh which on that note I also had to
10:04 do a little digging and kind of look at
10:06 my calendar and remember what I've done
10:07 in the last few days um we had pizza
10:10 with a good family friend um and they're
10:13 little he's three now little their son
10:16 who's three who's like just a joy and
10:18 the relationship that their son has with
10:20 our dog is like one of the most special
10:22 relationships I've ever seen like they
10:24 just clearly get so much joy from each
10:27 other um and so it was just really nice
10:29 for them to just be wild and around
10:33 together the two of them so that that's
10:35 something that brought me a smile a
10:37 couple days
10:40 ago okay well thank you all I think we
10:43 covered everyone and T was gonna pass so
10:46 um okay so Dale staff report yeah
10:50 absolutely so this will be a quick one I
10:52 I have the gamut tonight of agenda items
10:55 so I'll keep the staff report um update
10:57 from uh previous meetings rather short
11:00 um the the most notable thing to share
11:03 so at our September 4 meeting uh the
11:06 finance team well it was a combo I guess
11:09 Andrew Schneider our Deputy City
11:11 administrator and Julian um strub our
11:15 management analyst came to talk to the
11:17 equity board about the inclusion of an
11:19 equity impact assessment in the budget
11:22 um as you may be aware of or it may be
11:26 maybe I'm sharing some new news uh for
11:28 you the city is in a is in a really
11:31 challenging budget moment um not only
11:34 were we facing a significant um
11:37 shortfall of revenue for this current
11:39 year but over the course of the upcoming
11:41 B anym A projected um gap of
11:45 of likely about between eight and 11
11:48 million doar for a city our size that is
11:51 a lot of money um and so the city over
11:53 the course of the last few months has
11:55 gone through a really challenging
11:57 process of um red producing our current
12:00 year expenditures but also our expected
12:03 future year expenditures for the
12:04 upcoming banum you can see there's a
12:07 great uh the mayor has a great podcast
12:10 into it's a podcast but it's also a
12:12 YouTube video a video cast um discussing
12:17 the challenges of this current budget on
12:18 the city's website I'd highly recommend
12:21 um taking a listen to it she'll explain
12:23 more in depth of sort of why we are
12:25 where we are and what the administration
12:27 is doing to get us into a fiscally okay
12:31 spot that said uh one of the items in
12:35 her budget um in her proposed budget
12:37 that went to council just a couple of
12:39 weeks ago a week ago is a um Equity
12:44 impact assessment it's $50,000 for an
12:47 equity impact assessment which is a
12:48 smaller amount of money than we had
12:50 originally hoped to have in the budget
12:53 for an equity impact assessment but I
12:54 think I just wanted to share with this
12:56 group that despite the fact that there
12:58 were many other things that did not make
13:01 it into this budget and really um
13:03 painfully and sadly there are many um
13:07 positions at the city that have been
13:08 reduced um as a part of this budget
13:11 process uh I do think it is still
13:13 encouraging and something for this board
13:15 to uh celebrate your uh advising that
13:20 this is something that made it into the
13:21 budget um it's currently the budget is
13:23 under consideration by the city council
13:25 deliberations will be going on over the
13:27 next few weeks the next budget
13:29 deliberation is on the 12th that sounds
13:32 right that sounds like next Tuesday um
13:35 the 12th will be the next uh City
13:37 Council budget deliberation and so I
13:39 would encourage Equity board members to
13:41 listen in um if you would like to submit
13:45 public comment ahead of that please do
13:48 um but I will say from the first
13:50 conversation um the council seemed very
13:52 receptive to the inclusion of that
13:54 Equity impact assessment in the upcoming
13:56 banial budget so
13:59 I think a a kudos to this group you know
14:01 you've made your voices heard especially
14:02 over the summer months um and advocated
14:05 for the inclusion of this in the budget
14:07 and it currently not only made it into
14:09 the mayor's budget but seems in strong
14:11 consideration to make it through the
14:13 budget
14:16 process questions no question statement
14:19 it's a very powerful statement of
14:21 priorities put that item in in this
14:24 particularly this time it is and we
14:26 should be very proud about what we did
14:29 in the cities trying to
14:32 do and Ray has his hand
14:36 up Ray you are on
14:41 mute Kelly stole my words um so thank
14:44 you for and Dale you are a catalyst in
14:46 all of this so I I'm sure you helped
14:49 package this and deliver the message
14:50 appropriately and how vital this is I
14:53 mean I'm so curious about what the
14:54 verbiage is behind here it's such a
14:57 great opportunity for us to learn
14:58 especially in these times and what we as
15:01 Equity board members can do once that is
15:04 formalized you know me I'm all about
15:07 action so I think this is one of these
15:09 things that'll help us take action
15:11 instead of um I think we've had lots of
15:14 opportunity here the past three years
15:15 that I've been here to learn so how do
15:17 we translate that into action I'm
15:18 looking to this report to see what that
15:21 that allows us to do
15:24 absolutely and as an addendum to my
15:27 report you know the the will be involved
15:29 in the scoping of what what we'll use
15:32 this money for it also seems quite
15:35 likely that we'll get a um grad school
15:38 Consulting Group from the University of
15:40 Washington Evans School of public policy
15:43 to support in some way um and so there
15:47 will be more details about their
15:49 participation as well and I imagine
15:50 they'll also come to this board U
15:52 multiple times throughout their time
15:54 working on this project so um we'll have
15:57 more news hopefully in January which our
16:01 January meeting is going to have to get
16:02 moved because it's January 1 but
16:04 hopefully in January we'll have more
16:06 we'll have more
16:08 news any other questions or
16:14 comments okay so Dale you're up again
16:17 with h the cultural and religious
16:19 calendar Rie I am um so as um folks
16:23 who've been on this board for a a a full
16:25 cycle uh might be familiar with uh we
16:29 you were a instrumental part of the
16:32 process of the city developing and
16:34 adopting uh their cultur the cultur and
16:36 religious calendar that the city now
16:38 uses to denote days of cultural
16:41 religious significance holistically for
16:43 the community but also days on which the
16:45 city does not hold um evening meetings I
16:50 think a great example uh we actually
16:51 ended up we moved our our October
16:53 meeting to be a joint meeting but our
16:55 October meeting fell on a a Jewish High
16:58 holiday and so would have rescheduled
16:59 that meeting given that it falls on this
17:01 short list of uh cultural and religious
17:04 holidays provided that list ahead of
17:06 time it the list has not changed so when
17:09 we went through the adoption process as
17:10 a group uh the recommendation was for it
17:13 to be formally formally reviewed by this
17:16 group um every I believe three years uh
17:20 but it was asked that this the list
17:22 comes to the board every year for just
17:24 for a review refresher um and for
17:28 General consideration of if you happen
17:30 to know that any of these dates are not
17:32 correct um this is research that is done
17:34 by our clerk's office um as they are the
17:37 the keepers of the calendar here at the
17:40 city and so just wanted to give the
17:42 opportunity for a quick review or any
17:44 questions from the board on the calendar
17:48 and it is totally fine if we don't have
17:50 any um this is really just meant to be
17:52 an informational
17:54 update I have a
17:56 question um there there's some items in
18:00 blue and some are just in Black font I
18:05 believe the blue are the federal
18:06 holidays that I am no the black are the
18:09 federal holidays just curious about the
18:12 color coding there yep there was an ask
18:14 from I actually believe this board to
18:17 make sure that they were all included in
18:19 in one list together um and that was a
18:22 that was a change we made from the first
18:24 year the pilot year of the calendar to
18:26 this year and so now the clerks keep
18:28 that list all together and to know the
18:29 difference in color and then that list
18:31 will be uploaded to the
18:35 website good question I could keep going
18:37 um from what you know so I know these
18:40 were days when you know meetings you
18:42 know public meetings and other meetings
18:44 were not to be scheduled has that been
18:47 presenting a
18:49 hardship it really
18:52 had it has mostly been a challenge
18:54 honestly for boards and commissions
18:56 because our city council and our Council
18:58 committees take
18:59 initial precedence over meeting dates uh
19:01 and so when they have to move the the
19:03 downstream impact of that is then boards
19:05 and commissions sometimes need to
19:06 reschedule not always tonight is the
19:08 perfect example there's actually a
19:10 council committee that had to be
19:11 rescheduled from last night it's
19:13 happening tonight um but I think what
19:17 the clerk's office often does when they
19:19 look there some there are some very
19:21 close together holidays in the fall um
19:23 that sometimes provide a real challenge
19:25 we've been very lucky that as of yet
19:28 we've not had too much trouble there's
19:30 been a lot of rescheduling but now that
19:33 we know the dates so far in advance um
19:35 it's been a lot it's been the
19:37 administrative burden has decreased over
19:39 time
19:45 yeah any other questions or
19:49 comments
19:51 no I mean I don't have any dates or
19:54 other things to that I would want to
19:56 amend
20:00 super okay on to the next um the next
20:05 topic I'm going to share my screen here
20:07 because we do actually have a
20:07 presentation for this
20:09 one bye
20:13 Ted let me go ahead and I will put this
20:19 in awesome okay um I'm I'm back but as a
20:24 solo presenter this time Juliana was
20:26 unable to join me this evening she sent
20:28 her uh just gratitude for this group
20:31 continuing to be uh a helpful uh partner
20:35 as we develop this tool for the city
20:37 you'll notice on your agenda that this
20:39 item is marked with an a that means
20:41 action so we will actually be voting on
20:44 this item tonight the recommendation
20:47 from the administration is to vote to um
20:50 recommend that the city do adopt this um
20:54 glossery this 1.0 version of this
20:57 glossery as a reminder to this group you
21:00 can recommend small changes tonight if
21:02 you see typos or you want to add like a
21:04 couple words to a sentence we can
21:06 absolutely make those Amendment
21:08 amendments live in this meeting and then
21:10 vote in that way similar to the letter
21:12 um significant changes however will
21:15 require this to come back again to the
21:17 to the board um and so with that I'll uh
21:21 share a little about the purpose tonight
21:23 so the purpose tonight is to share with
21:25 you the development and the current uh
21:27 final one .0 version draft of the city's
21:30 diversity Equity inclusion and belonging
21:32 glossery and it's to also obtain your
21:35 approval to launch this first version of
21:37 the glossery with City
21:39 staff the direction needed tonight is
21:42 very specific uh first are there any
21:45 deal breakers for this group so deal
21:47 breaker terms words that have been left
21:50 out of this that you that you just feel
21:52 like in a 1.0 version the city cannot
21:55 move forward unless there is a term or a
21:57 word that is in here and is there
21:59 anything that the city should consider
22:01 the city the administration should
22:02 consider as we implement this first
22:04 version of this glossery with
22:08 staff a little bit of background a
22:10 reminder for this group so in 22 and 23
22:15 um the city was get was getting a good
22:17 amount of feedback from staff members
22:21 from board and commission members from
22:22 the public that the language around some
22:26 of the equity language that was showing
22:29 in City documents in City presentations
22:32 was unclear there wasn't a clear
22:34 definition of some what some of these
22:36 words meant specifically some of the
22:38 words that already showed up in City
22:40 documents in
22:42 2023 um there the city staff conducted
22:45 an internal um analysis of Staff
22:49 knowledge of terms um of equity terms
22:53 and just anecdotal evidence Gathering
22:55 out the Public's understanding of some
22:57 of the common terms we use like the word
22:59 Equity versus the word equality um and
23:02 learned that this was indeed a need
23:04 there was a need to be clearer and to
23:06 have shared understanding and shared
23:08 language around some of these terms
23:11 especially to again I will emphasize
23:12 again especially the terms that already
23:14 show up in City
23:17 work um in the beginning of this year um
23:21 staff on the city's internal Equity team
23:24 did a survey of City documents to try to
23:27 get an understanding of what are all the
23:29 terms that are already showing up know
23:31 we were hearing from staff oh this term
23:33 show or from members of the some members
23:35 of the public this term shows up here
23:37 and here and here and it seems to be
23:38 meaning something different in each
23:41 Place staff on that internal team also
23:44 researched other organizations and other
23:47 jurisdictions tool similar tools um and
23:50 then worked on developing a draft
23:52 initial draft glossery in I believe it
23:56 was May
23:59 members of that team visited the equity
24:01 board um with a draft and shared that
24:03 draft with this group and got some
24:05 feedback on the content specifically
24:07 feedback on the inclusion of what terms
24:10 in the first part of the of the glossery
24:13 the organization of the document um as
24:17 well as whether or not to include a
24:19 terms we should avoid section of the
24:22 document in Q3 and into the beginning of
24:25 Q4 that internal team made Provisions
24:28 based on feedback from this group as
24:31 well as feedback from the internal
24:32 Equity team at large That Was Then
24:35 presented to the internal Equity team
24:37 for some additional feedback um and has
24:40 been being started to be used in little
24:43 pockets little work group Pockets around
24:45 the city but has not been formally
24:47 rolled out in any sort of way um because
24:49 we knew that we needed to return to this
24:52 to the board for final approval on this
24:54 1.0 version of the document so that is
24:56 the history of where we've been
25:00 and here is where we are so I want to
25:02 share a little bit more about the
25:03 drafting process um and the progress
25:05 that we made following um engagement
25:07 with the board so first um as a reminder
25:13 the priority for this document is for
25:15 City Staff first and foremost and so we
25:17 focused on first and foremost words that
25:20 are already being used in city of isad
25:22 documents both internal documents and
25:24 anything that's public facing then we
25:27 thought and this was great feedback from
25:29 this group was are there foundational
25:31 terms that actually need to precede
25:34 those documented terms to help people
25:37 understand terms that might be showing
25:39 up already we did add the avoid terms to
25:43 avoid section and Incorporated much of
25:46 the feedback but not all of the feedback
25:48 that was offered by the board in May and
25:50 I think it's important to note the
25:52 definitions are sourced from other
25:54 governmental agencies nonprofit
25:56 organizations and academic in
25:58 institutions no definition was developed
26:01 by a city of isqua employee and we felt
26:03 that was really important that we were
26:04 pulling from trusted sources actually
26:07 almost I would say we've listed all
26:09 three but I would say largely academic
26:11 institutions in this
26:13 work the primary audience is still City
26:17 staff um our plan right now is to
26:22 provide this as part of the orientation
26:25 or qua 101 onboarding process for staff
26:29 we know however that's only getting new
26:31 staff um and in a time when we are not
26:33 likely not hiring a lot of staff there
26:35 needs to be another plan so this will
26:38 also be available as a full document on
26:40 the city's Equity team SharePoint and
26:43 we'll also share the document publicly
26:45 on the city website for community
26:47 members anyone external to the city to
26:50 see um we do think that one of the the
26:53 biggest and I think I have a slide the
26:55 next slide is about this um our biggest
26:57 plan is to design um a lunch and learn
27:01 session that we can offer to staff
27:03 quarterly throughout the year as well as
27:06 to embed uh a term roll out in our qule
27:11 which is our sort of
27:12 internal uh City newsletter the qule of
27:15 course um which goes out bi-weekly
27:18 essentially um that's the approach we've
27:21 taken to sharing uh the religious and
27:24 cultural holidays is that those at the
27:26 top of the month that those holidays
27:27 occur we share about those holidays in
27:30 that qule we'd like to do something
27:32 similar with a roll out of this document
27:34 which is to use the qule which is
27:35 something that all staff get as a way to
27:38 share about these terms over time um and
27:43 uh making sure that the full document is
27:46 available in we're we're hoping for
27:48 January to share the full document and
27:50 make it available to all staff but then
27:52 to reemphasize that with sort of a
27:54 bi-weekly term roll out um
27:59 also I think this was recommended at the
28:01 May meeting we would like this to come
28:03 back to the equity board annually for
28:05 review and update we really recognize as
28:08 staff that this is a 1.0 version and
28:11 we'd really like to emphasize the goal
28:13 is to not make perfect the enemy of the
28:15 good but to start the work um I think
28:19 that we' been working on this all year
28:21 and there's some urgency at this point
28:24 about starting to get something in front
28:26 of folks so that we can actually start
28:28 um the education and engagement process
28:31 uh but having this actually come back
28:32 for a formal review annually so unlike
28:35 the religious and cultural calendar
28:36 which is we just kind of looked at right
28:38 now we would actually do have a probably
28:40 a full meeting uh or agenda item in
28:43 October of each year about this
28:45 particular tool and anything that the
28:47 equity board would like to recommend
28:49 updating um of course ad hoc revisions
28:52 and updates are going to be considered
28:53 and processed through the internal
28:55 Equity team in the meantime um um and
28:58 that group will serve as the steward for
29:00 this tool um amongst
29:03 staff so timing and next steps and then
29:06 we'll open for questions and discussion
29:08 um following this meeting if we were to
29:11 approve this to move forward would be to
29:13 share this again with the city's senior
29:14 leadership team they've been apprised of
29:16 this throughout the development process
29:19 um but coming back to them formally with
29:21 the recommendation from this board um
29:24 and then bring the approved glossery to
29:25 the internal Equity team to finalize the
29:27 plan for staff roll out in the first
29:29 quarter of the coming year in q1 we
29:32 would see that City staff launch so the
29:34 qule with the full document the lunch
29:36 and learn series starting in January and
29:39 then the bi-weekly term sharing out in
29:41 the quanal um that goes out basically
29:44 twice a month uh and then the hope would
29:46 be to return to the board in September
29:48 or October of the coming year to report
29:50 out on revisions report out on impacts
29:53 and take any additional feedback and
29:55 make modifications based on the boards
29:57 um the board's feedback as
30:00 well so as a reminder direction for
30:04 tonight are there any deal breaker terms
30:06 or words that have been left out of this
30:08 1.0 version that you feel like the city
30:11 cannot move forward with a 1.0 glossery
30:13 um without this term um included and is
30:17 there anything that the administration
30:19 or the internal Equity team should
30:22 further consider as it implements this
30:24 first version with um City staff
30:31 Ray yes questions I should say
30:34 questions well I have questions comments
30:37 and requests so where should I start
30:39 whever forever makes sense um well first
30:43 of all I just well comments I think you
30:45 answered my first question which was is
30:47 this the first version of this because I
30:49 don't remember seeing it so this is this
30:51 is the first time we blid eyes on a
30:52 document like this it sounds like Dale
30:54 correct this is not this is the second
30:56 time so there was a presentation of the
30:58 draft of this document it was in a
31:00 slightly different form you can see that
31:03 it's changed a little bit in the flow of
31:05 the document uh there was also a element
31:08 of like a key that we removed because it
31:11 was becoming kind of disconnected from
31:15 the purpose of the docu it was making it
31:17 overly complicated um but this is
31:19 actually the second time Ray that we've
31:21 seen this okay okay that's that's um
31:25 that's that's that's good um that we've
31:27 been giving this a lot of thought so um
31:29 my comments were one I credit the author
31:32 first of all there's these change these
31:33 terms are constantly changing so I don't
31:35 know if it was you Dale or somebody else
31:37 who was assigned to capture all of these
31:39 it's just hard to keep up and for you I
31:43 I think I'm in top of all these terms
31:44 and I've opened this document and I
31:46 realize I'm not so it's such an
31:48 opportunity to learn about something um
31:52 so so that's my comment credit the
31:55 author and then the terms to void that
31:58 was really really informative I mean
32:01 that think about that section and the
32:03 things that we can apply to our our
32:04 daily conversations it's just an
32:06 opportunity to be sensitive about those
32:08 things so again thank you for educating
32:11 us you think we'd be on top of these
32:13 things but again always opportunities to
32:15 learn um the only requests that I have
32:19 was when I was going through these and
32:22 the
32:23 lgbtqi section there's there's there's
32:27 effort to um I'm trying to get to that
32:31 page I think it's
32:34 page what is that 19 of 64 I'm looking
32:38 at the items so so with those acronyms
32:45 transgender um and what is it there's
32:49 others that have been elaborated on I
32:51 mean this is an acronym for seven
32:53 different things right so Perhaps
32:56 Perhaps in that box you can clarify
32:58 exactly what those letters are because
33:00 you took there was an effort made to
33:02 call out transgender and call out um I
33:05 think one other one intersection or
33:08 something but maybe just to avoid um
33:10 confusion or an opportunity to further
33:12 educate is what do each of those letters
33:16 stand for and if the target audience is
33:18 like you were mentioning earlier is just
33:20 city
33:21 employees I totally get it if if if they
33:24 they understand what all these acronyms
33:25 are but I for one I'm going to use this
33:27 as an opportunity to educate others like
33:29 I'm going to print this out and you know
33:31 have a discussion this is the kind of
33:33 stuff that our Equity board works on are
33:35 you familiar with all these terms and I
33:36 think we're gonna get a lot of interest
33:38 from folks to that are that are able to
33:39 see something like this absolutely that
33:42 would be a small revision that we could
33:45 make
33:48 okay Shay you had your hand
33:53 up um yes because I did have a question
33:56 um and I think gra has done this a
33:57 little bit it that the terms are ever
34:00 changing and Things Are Forever being
34:02 updated is it possible that we could
34:05 look at possibly revising a little
34:08 sooner than a year or reviewing a
34:10 revision prior to a year um it seems
34:14 like a year is a really long time before
34:16 we're able to look at the terms again
34:20 and and see what changes have
34:22 occurred absolutely if we wanted to move
34:25 it to like mid year have it be a June
34:27 meeting item I think that would be
34:29 totally reasonable especially uh given
34:32 the deliberate pace of government uh it
34:34 will likely take if we talk about it in
34:36 June it will likely take until September
34:38 or October to make sure it's updated um
34:40 to then adopt it in September or October
34:43 so I think Shay that would be totally um
34:46 something that we could do move it into
34:48 you know middle of the Year and that
34:50 gives us plenty of
34:52 time thank you that's all I
34:55 had like it just builds off of Shay's
34:59 comment there um it it feels like this
35:03 should be a dynamic document and I know
35:05 you've alluded to the internal Equity
35:07 team maybe doing you know making
35:09 additions and updates throughout uh and
35:12 that could lead to like aversion control
35:14 nightmare you know I know we have 1.0
35:16 but then like what's what's 1.1 1.5 when
35:20 do you get to a 2.0 so um just thinking
35:24 about like the platform this is on and
35:28 so I know you you have SharePoint so I
35:30 don't know if you have like Ms list as a
35:33 possible platform and then that way you
35:36 can um have a last updated field by term
35:41 you know and so it doesn't have to be
35:43 associated with the entire document that
35:45 way it can be more living and ding I
35:48 love that idea so I would and searchable
35:51 with that kind of format so if yeah if
35:53 it's something that's being launched
35:55 maybe think about like lists as a
35:57 possibility
35:59 there I think that sounds like a great
36:02 way for that for us to keep that
36:04 internally that we have sort of the
36:05 external thing that we make available on
36:07 the website but that over the course of
36:09 the year it could be iterative and
36:12 updated and that way even in June uh we
36:16 could bring the like here's here's where
36:18 it is now uh based on just the iterative
36:21 process internally with staff and have
36:23 the board weigh in on those
36:25 updates oh spider
36:35 great and I'll just say out loud that I
36:38 already sent Dale emailed Dale a list of
36:40 more terms and for both sides like terms
36:43 to add in terms to avoid and so just
36:47 being mindful of the fact that this is
36:50 ever changing and so I didn't think none
36:53 of the none of those were deal breakers
36:55 so that's why it's not I didn't bring it
36:57 up here so it can go in the next version
37:00 yeah yeah or whenever yeah yeah so I
37:04 just have a process question which is
37:08 ultimately how is this document I guess
37:11 either fored or attached
37:13 to um internal City processes so I'm
37:17 I'll use the example of uh a request for
37:20 a proposal process so is this document
37:24 in some way attached to a a policy see
37:27 that the city has that any type of RFP
37:30 that's either written or received back
37:33 that it has to either reflect the I
37:36 guess they do not avoid language or to
37:40 make sure that the language within those
37:42 documents are inclusive how does that
37:44 work this that's a great question
37:47 so I have an answer to that specific
37:50 example but I'm going to start with I
37:52 think the the original intent of how we
37:54 hope this is used we hope it's first and
37:57 for most used by City staff in their
37:59 drafting of documents okay so the hope
38:02 is that if we start with staff and we
38:05 say let's learn and understand these
38:07 terms and either start using them or in
38:10 the case of the things to avoid stop
38:11 using them in what we put out into the
38:14 world um and then actually to to switch
38:18 gears for a second very specifically on
38:19 the RFP part um we do have very specific
38:22 language in our um RFP templates around
38:28 um City values that we expect um vendors
38:34 to meet around sustainability and social
38:36 Equity okay yeah so that's a different I
38:39 would say we're not yet at the point
38:41 where we'd say attach this
38:43 document as probably part of the
38:46 expectations around sort of vendors
38:47 quite yet but that could be I think and
38:50 especially as we think about what this
38:52 Equity impact assessment might recommend
38:54 the city do for sure um but first and
38:56 foremost this is really I think that in
38:58 terms of processes we're expecting City
39:01 staff to learn these terms understand
39:03 them and use them appropriately okay
39:06 thank you
39:10 yeah so I think related to that so it
39:13 sounds like you've got you know so
39:15 there's a tool that's been developed and
39:18 So you you're coming up with like a plan
39:20 to roll out the tool
39:22 and support the loaning to use the tool
39:26 y so that's you know could change
39:28 management you know uh approaches and
39:31 then I'm thinking about so given our
39:33 political climate and how it's
39:36 changing
39:38 um it it seems right now this is set up
39:41 to be more of a guidance document like
39:43 use this whenever you can yeah um I'm
39:47 wondering and I I don't necessarily want
39:50 to plan for the worst case scenario but
39:52 you know we know people are have react
39:55 to you know something that feels like
39:58 it's politically correct AB things like
40:00 that so um what kind of path towards
40:05 accountability might this be on and
40:09 especially for the folks who might be
40:12 doing something out of uh more bad
40:15 intentions you know versus folks who are
40:18 just like not remembering right and so
40:22 I'm just kind of
40:24 wondering yeah I don't want to design
40:26 for the worst just kind of being mindful
40:28 of that no that's a great question and I
40:31 have to say I don't have an answer to
40:32 that question I think that's a good
40:34 question for internal Equity team as we
40:36 think about you know they're building
40:38 out additional training broadly around
40:41 Dei um and so I think a good question
40:44 for them is you know how how do we want
40:47 this tool to be how do we want folks to
40:49 be held accountable in a way that they
40:52 are encouraged to use this um we ran
40:55 into a similar challenge around our
40:57 uh green our sort of sustainable
40:59 purchasing plan where this is something
41:02 we're asking folks to do it's not
41:04 something that we're requiring folks to
41:06 do um and so how can we do our best um
41:11 to support folks in this kind of tool
41:14 also
41:16 in using it
41:20 yeah I think if this group has
41:22 recommendations around the PR's question
41:25 i' I'd love to hear those as well maybe
41:27 before we jump to right I just um so I
41:29 know you know where I work there there
41:32 was a lot of effort around um like
41:35 wellness you know webinars and things
41:37 like that that were geared to different
41:40 Affinity groups and so it was like
41:42 strongly recommended for you know like
41:45 to go to the one that's associated with
41:47 your identity group and uh some folks
41:51 from other Affinity groups didn't like
41:53 that and they didn't like the feeling
41:55 that they were feel they were being
41:57 excluded from being allowed and and so
42:01 they would you know what's the word
42:04 called like Zoom bomb or whatever you
42:06 know those meetings and create media a
42:09 negative environment and so I'm like
42:12 those scenarios really do happen and so
42:14 I guess that's where I just you know
42:16 want to be mindful like so if you know
42:17 someone is blatantly using the terms on
42:20 the do not useless you
42:23 know there yeah what are the mechanisms
42:26 yeah and I think one thing that I know
42:27 we've talked about I read a great book
42:30 recently actually about uh the
42:32 difference
42:33 between um bi Prejudice bias and
42:38 bullying um and how to intervene in each
42:40 of those situations because it's
42:41 actually a different way to intervene
42:43 because the motivation behind what the
42:45 person is doing is different um and so I
42:48 know that that we we our HR director and
42:51 our Equity team have also been thinking
42:53 a lot about sort of what does what does
42:55 an intervention look like and how do we
42:57 prepare people to also be um to
43:01 intervene um appropriately in those
43:03 moments and sort of whether or not
43:05 someone's intending to be
43:08 um intending to harm or
43:12 not yeah that's great to those tools
43:16 will probably be relevant here
43:22 absolutely
43:25 Ray oh Ray you're
43:30 muted um is there any chance and and I
43:33 know we upload our minutes and our notes
43:35 into our website but if this could be
43:37 turned into a formal document that folks
43:40 can just reference directly from the
43:41 website is that a possibility I'm
43:43 looking at the website right now and
43:44 there's like this section called view
43:46 more for other meetings legislative
43:48 records is that is that a possibility
43:50 Dale we can just make it available on
43:52 the equity Board website yes yeah it
43:54 doesn't have to be embedded within the
43:56 minutes at all we can have it be a
43:57 separate a separate document yeah
44:00 wonderful
44:06 great I'm GNA keep going with the
44:08 question um when I'm thinking about the
44:11 you know the implementation or the
44:13 deployment of the tool um with the
44:17 different mechanisms you have like the
44:19 newsletter and lunch and learns does
44:22 that get to kind of the front lines of
44:25 Staff like would you be able to reach
44:27 everyone or you are you thinking about
44:30 that I guess yeah I think we're thinking
44:32 one those things do go to everyone and
44:34 they do have pretty good readership um
44:36 we got a lot of really positive staff
44:38 feedback from all departments all
44:40 different roles around our religious and
44:43 cultural calendar roll out and like not
44:46 like we knew people were reading it
44:48 because when there were holidays that
44:49 weren't included last time around we
44:51 heard about it so that was a good
44:53 indicator that people are reading the
44:55 quanico and we can see it goes out via I
44:57 think I either a MailChimp or some some
45:00 some aggregator so we can actually see
45:02 open rates um which is and clickthrough
45:04 rates uh which is really good data for
45:07 us to have um and know whether it's
45:09 getting to folks I think that
45:11 unsurprisingly um our hope is to get
45:15 interested to to make sure it touches
45:17 everyone and then to double down on
45:18 supporting the most interested folks as
45:21 quickly as we can um which is I think
45:23 what the lunch and learns will likely do
45:26 um so a comination of sort of flood the
45:28 space initially and then be consistent
45:31 with our roll out in the sort of
45:32 bi-weekly clinical roll out over the
45:34 course of the year um but also to offer
45:37 additional training I think one thing
45:39 the equity team has talked about a lot
45:41 is that especially the uh terms to
45:45 avoid um and how to intervene when
45:48 someone uses one of those terms that's
45:50 like an actual training that we want to
45:52 provide um so I
45:55 think it willon it'll be
45:57 an option for everyone and there is an
45:59 expectation that everyone engages in a
46:01 certain number of hours of Dei related
46:04 development over the course of the year
46:06 as part of their professional
46:07 development plan which all staff members
46:10 in have one of those uh and so this our
46:13 hope is that by having that expectation
46:16 we'll hopefully Drive some folks into
46:17 some of these these opportunities will
46:19 be offering but I think again it's a
46:22 little bit of how do we bring people to
46:24 the table or to the group uh versus you
46:29 know putting people mandatorily in a
46:31 training that they don't want to be in
46:32 that they then push back against um so I
46:36 think you know we'll monitor that and I
46:38 when we come with our update in June or
46:40 earlier bring um bring some information
46:44 on how that's going are we getting Folks
46:45 at those lunch and learns um or
46:50 not yes Shay I can absolutely um I can
46:54 absolutely share that book yeah and and
46:57 I will I will get some copies of the
46:58 qule um I'll make sure to take
47:00 screenshots of those or to forward them
47:02 to the equity board when when they go
47:04 out
47:05 um all ver I mean everything's public
47:09 records so there shouldn't be anything
47:10 in there it's usually stuff there it'll
47:12 be like something
47:13 about you know benefits and then
47:16 important calendar dates and then
47:17 hopefully now um you know our dib
47:21 glossery term of the
47:24 week so maybe uh
47:27 another um so you mentioned mail chimp
47:31 do all of uh City staff have email
47:34 addresses they all have email addresses
47:36 and everyone has um if not a computer a
47:38 tablet so all of our field staff have
47:40 tablets they use that in andout in their
47:42 work and they're expected to be both
47:43 live on teams and checking their email
47:46 so it goes to everybody including our
47:52 part-timers I have one other question
47:56 it was oh and I think I think you're
47:59 already doing this but you know in
48:01 response to the second question I was
48:04 just like the learnings from the
48:06 cultural calendar if if you're applying
48:08 them to this like you know when you had
48:10 resistors you know what was the best way
48:13 to bring them into the fold and yeah
48:16 like I you could probably
48:18 anticipate the same type of um questions
48:22 pushback level of support things like
48:25 that absolutely and I think um what I
48:29 found encouraging and I think what our
48:31 Equity team internally is hopeful about
48:34 is that even as we've done little bits
48:38 of rolling this out so we we rolled this
48:40 out originally to our senior leadership
48:42 team and direct reports shortly after
48:45 coming to the board in May um I believe
48:47 it was at our ju I want to say it was at
48:49 our July meeting um and
48:53 shared just why we don't use
48:55 stakeholders anym
48:57 and the number of emails I got after
48:59 that meeting to be like could you share
49:01 the exact slide with the rationale on it
49:04 because I want to talk to my team or I
49:06 want to talk to this uh con like this
49:10 um V not vendor um consultant we're
49:14 working with who keeps using it and in
49:15 fact we're going to meet with the smoke
49:17 Wy tribe next week and it's all over
49:18 their slide deck um and so it's already
49:21 having like I think a lot of people they
49:24 want to know they want to know the words
49:26 not to use because no one really wants
49:28 to create harm um which I think was like
49:32 really encouraging um and we haven't
49:34 heard a lot of like push back that's
49:36 like oh whatever I'm gonna still use
49:38 that term I'm sure we'll run into some
49:40 of that um that's I think inevitable
49:43 yeah but I think so far at least with
49:46 the groups that we've rolled it out with
49:49 um they've been really receptive and I
49:50 think if anything just like grateful to
49:52 know yes um which has been encouraging
49:55 but I do think you know I'm sure we'll
49:58 similar to the cultural religious
49:59 calendar I'm sure we'll hear I'm hopeful
50:01 we'll hear about terms that we didn't
50:03 include that people are familiar with
50:05 that they would like to have us include
50:08 um but we'll we'll see we'll be the
50:10 equity team will be ready to to field
50:12 those I think I hope you get a lot of
50:15 feedback because that means they read it
50:16 yes
50:19 agreed it's very exciting actually I
50:21 would have loved to have this when I was
50:23 doing my job right and was
50:27 in meshed in this work and yet did not
50:30 we did not have standard vocabulary and
50:32 it we didn't think of it nor had the
50:34 time to pull it together right so I will
50:38 be like Ray sharing I can think of three
50:41 people right now who would jump on the
50:43 opportunity to have something that
50:45 somebody else put
50:46 together I believe you share
50:48 [Laughter]
50:51 that any other questions comments um the
50:55 one modific to the actual document
50:58 that's been recommended was Ray
51:00 recommending clarifying all of the the
51:02 letters stand for in
51:04 lgbtqa um I think that is a minor
51:07 revision that we can if the group uh
51:10 feels that is a good minor revision we
51:12 can accept that one and take a vote on
51:16 whether or not uh the city should move
51:17 forward with the document as
51:20 is or with that minor Rion I should say
51:29 okay we'll take a we'll take a
51:32 vote so just to clarify so we have
51:37 six members and how many vote everyone
51:43 votes yep Kelly Kelly is a full voting
51:45 member this evening as we have many
51:48 regular members
51:50 missing yep okay I don't remember how to
51:53 do that
51:54 [Music]
51:56 uh you can just call you can call for a
51:59 vote um all in favor say I all oppose
52:03 say nay all extensions um raise their
52:06 hand and then that's all you need okay
52:09 so all in favor say I I I I I
52:18 I I okay so uh just to confirm any no
52:24 votes
52:27 and any
52:30 extensions the eyes have
52:33 it excellent so as a Next Step this will
52:36 move forward um with those revisions
52:39 recommended by Rey um to the equity team
52:42 for uh a planned roll out and we will
52:45 take into account this really robust and
52:47 excellent feedback on sort of the
52:50 rollout process and how to ensure um how
52:54 and we'll come back in June uh at the
52:56 latest my next work item is putting
52:59 together a draft of our work plan for
53:00 the upcoming year so June at the latest
53:03 with
53:05 the the at that point up to most
53:07 upto-date version of the tool as well as
53:10 information about uh staff engagement
53:12 uptake and
53:14 use great thank you Dale and I
53:18 think I don't know I think we're all
53:21 very uh proud I think of this tool and
53:24 excited for it so absolutely it's a it's
53:27 a just a great tool a
53:31 document hard work
53:34 amazing thanks for those Emoji claps it
53:37 always feels better when it's an emoji
53:38 clap I gotta say all right and Dale
53:42 you're back I'm here I haven't left but
53:44 I'm back um so our last uh main agenda
53:49 item for this evening uh was a was a
53:52 last minute ad um which is on the school
53:55 zone speed cameras specifically on the
53:57 equity impact assessment um the draft
54:00 the very drafty I'm sure I'm hoping you
54:02 found at least a dozen typos in here uh
54:04 Equity impact assessment on uh what the
54:07 city is currently considering around the
54:10 addition of two new school zone safety
54:13 locations
54:15 um this evening we're just engaged in
54:17 discussion there's no action or vote
54:20 needed um but I will share the purpose
54:23 is to get your feedback and your input
54:25 on the draft Equity impact assessments
54:27 related to the consideration of these
54:29 two new school zone speed camera
54:32 locations at isqua Valley Elementary and
54:35 Grand Ridge Elementary
54:37 School Direction needed so given the
54:41 limited data available and I will sh I
54:44 actually have some updated data from our
54:46 Police Department that I just got at
54:48 5:15 this evening um so it is not
54:51 reflected in your documents um but I can
54:53 share a little bit about a an ask I had
54:56 of the department um should further
54:59 consideration of safety along both
55:01 corridors be considered rather than just
55:03 the two blocks next to the school so
55:06 part of the the review was around safety
55:09 concerns and I ipd shared uh traffic
55:15 citations directly next to both schools
55:18 with literally I think it's like the
55:19 7900 block on Newport Way just that um
55:23 rather than the whole uh longer um strip
55:28 of the road do you have any concerns
55:31 about the findings in the draft Equity
55:32 impact assessment and are there any
55:34 other Equity considerations that should
55:36 be considered as part of this
55:39 process a little bit of background um I
55:44 I feel like I've become the subject
55:45 matter expert actually on this topic in
55:48 the last couple of months as I've been
55:50 tasked with exploring this um so I know
55:54 there's there wasn't a ton in the P it
55:56 for today but I would be more than happy
55:59 to share anything that you want to go a
56:01 little bit deeper on if you feel like
56:02 you're lacking a little bit of context
56:05 this is the highlevel
56:07 overview in 2008 the city adopted its uh
56:11 its school zone speed camera policy and
56:14 program um at the time it also it was
56:16 actually for any automated speed camera
56:18 so it includes the city's ability to
56:20 have red light cameras um but at the
56:23 time and then repeatedly um in the
56:25 intervening almost 20 years uh the city
56:28 has only maintained this one School Zone
56:31 location
56:33 um that potentially you're all very
56:36 familiar with um along Second Avenue uh
56:39 near isqua middle and isqua high school
56:43 um the big gap in this history but I'll
56:45 bring us up to 2022 and 2023 uh the city
56:49 routinely gets concerns from residents
56:51 about speeding near isad Valley
56:54 Elementary uh Grand r Elementary and
56:57 Cougar Mountain Middle School uh in
57:00 Talis so regularly uh we get them
57:03 through C- click fix we get direct calls
57:05 to the police um the police themselves
57:08 also despite having quite limited staff
57:12 capacity in the last five years I think
57:13 we are finally almost at fully staffed
57:16 um also as you saw in the impact
57:19 assessment are still catching people
57:20 speeding in these areas um even though
57:24 we have school zone flat ing lights on
57:28 during school hours um in q1 of this
57:31 year 2024 the school district finalized
57:33 a traffic speed study on Palace drive
57:36 that was part of a requirement um around
57:39 the development of the middle school
57:40 there and found that uh speeds were not
57:43 high enough to Warrant um a school zone
57:45 speed camera on that particular
57:48 structure of Road especially since it's
57:49 a divided highway um or a divided Road
57:53 it would only have been on the the going
57:56 downside that is adjacent to the middle
57:58 school and actually speeds were very
58:00 slow going downhill they're much faster
58:03 going uphill on the opposite side um but
58:05 the study found that um speeds were did
58:08 not reach the threshold on average um in
58:11 Q2 of
58:13 2024 I should say at this time the city
58:15 was already considering do we expand
58:18 school's own speed camera program you
58:19 know we've had this
58:21 one it seems like speeding is still a
58:23 concern in these other areas the city is
58:25 was set to or is still it is in the
58:28 current um Capital Improvement plan is
58:31 set to um make traffic calming changes
58:35 to Newport Way in particular but those
58:38 changes are not set to begin until at
58:41 least
58:42 2032 um so even though we know traffic
58:44 calming is the goal and Road redesign is
58:47 the most effective way to change driving
58:49 behavior we still unfortunately due to
58:52 funding we are a long way off um
58:55 although the fund from our current
58:57 camera does fund traffic improvements um
59:00 it does not produce enough revenue for
59:03 those traffic improve to have the money
59:05 we need right now for those Newport Way
59:06 traffic
59:07 improvements the police department
59:09 visited city council to share about
59:11 potential expanded red light camera and
59:13 school zone camera programs in I want to
59:17 say ju I'm not going to lie it's
59:20 sometime in Q2 so that couldn't have
59:22 been July because that's Q3 um I want to
59:25 say it was May and city council
59:26 instructed the administration to pursue
59:28 a vendor evaluation of two
59:30 locations isquad Valley Elementary and
59:33 Grand Ridge Elementary the vendor
59:35 studies were completed for both red
59:37 light cameras those were completed
59:39 actually in early June um and then the
59:41 city waited until school was back in
59:43 session would make no sense to study
59:45 driver behavior when the school's Zone
59:47 lights are not flashing um in early
59:49 September for um the school Z own safety
59:52 locations staff completed an analysis of
59:56 Financial feasibility based off some
59:57 assumptions I'm happy to chat through um
1:00:00 and drafted um just this past week an
1:00:03 equity impact analysis as is required by
1:00:05 the new law um adopted by uh State
1:00:08 Legislature this past
1:00:11 spring so that gives you the was what
1:00:14 law is that
1:00:16 yes a
1:00:19 essb cannot remember the number it's a
1:00:21 good question for me um but it was it
1:00:24 was just adopted it did two things well
1:00:26 did three things it expanded City's
1:00:29 ability to use automated traffic cameras
1:00:31 for more purposes than they had been
1:00:33 previously allowed to do with that came
1:00:35 a few requirements one around how the
1:00:38 revenue could be used we actually
1:00:41 already use our Revenue in a particular
1:00:43 way so the revenue pays for the
1:00:46 Machinery itself so our contract with
1:00:48 the vendor that runs the camera the
1:00:50 administrative cost to process the
1:00:53 violations so we have both police
1:00:56 department and Municipal Court staff
1:00:58 whose time is spent processing
1:01:00 violations and also dealing with people
1:01:02 coming in and paying for these
1:01:04 violations um all additional Revenue
1:01:08 goes to
1:01:09 Transportation related projects um so
1:01:13 Road improvements uh traffic calming uh
1:01:17 that's already how we had designated
1:01:19 that our revenues be used the new uh
1:01:21 state law concretizes that that is the
1:01:24 only other thing that the Revenue can be
1:01:26 used for and it specifically says must
1:01:29 be used in the areas where those cameras
1:01:32 are um so it really kind of Narrows
1:01:35 where that can be used we because we
1:01:37 already have a schoolone uh safety
1:01:39 camera program given the fact that we
1:01:42 only have one we are allowed to have the
1:01:46 addition of one other camera under the
1:01:49 stipulations of our original program any
1:01:52 a third camera would be under the
1:01:54 stipulations of the new state law which
1:01:56 would also require this is getting you
1:01:58 know can you tell but I read this whole
1:02:00 law uh which would also require that in
1:02:03 starting in year four of the camera uh
1:02:06 that 20% of the revenue after
1:02:08 administrative costs be put into a state
1:02:11 fund um that does not come back to the
1:02:13 city so it's a broader state fund um so
1:02:16 it significantly decreases the financial
1:02:19 viability of a third location doesn't
1:02:22 make it doesn't make it out of the
1:02:24 question we would still bring in enough
1:02:26 Revenue to cover administrative costs
1:02:28 and maybe a little bit of Transportation
1:02:31 Project work uh but significantly
1:02:33 decreases the revenue that we would
1:02:36 expect to bring in to cover the cost of
1:02:37 the program um I'm trying to think if
1:02:40 there's any other
1:02:42 notable I don't think so I think well
1:02:45 and what brings us all together today
1:02:48 required in the state law is an equity
1:02:50 imp impact assessment of any potential
1:02:53 location for any camera um um and so
1:02:57 yeah which is great we were into that we
1:02:59 like that that's part of the law now um
1:03:02 which is brings us to where we are um so
1:03:07 why school zone speed cameras safety and
1:03:09 school zones um as you know driving
1:03:12 around our city all of our school zones
1:03:13 already have rectangular rapid flashing
1:03:15 beacons those fun kind of 7 foot high
1:03:20 flashing beacons letting you know you're
1:03:22 entering a school zone many people think
1:03:24 that those are accompanied by cameras
1:03:26 they are not actually with the exception
1:03:28 of the ones on Second Avenue Southeast
1:03:31 and we are still seeing um because
1:03:33 people realize after the first or second
1:03:35 time they speed through that they're not
1:03:37 getting caught and ticketed uh we are
1:03:39 still seeing pretty high rates of
1:03:41 speeding um which was perceived and
1:03:44 shared with us uh through resident and
1:03:47 and Community member comment and then
1:03:49 also validated by the vendor studies
1:03:51 that went out and looked to see our
1:03:53 people speeding in in school zones and
1:03:55 you can see in your packet in the um uh
1:03:58 in the equity impact assessment we
1:04:00 shared just a little a little clip of
1:04:04 what the vendor found which was that yes
1:04:06 people are still speeding uh they are
1:04:08 speeding more when the lights are not
1:04:09 flashing in most cases not all cases but
1:04:12 most cases uh but they are still
1:04:14 speeding during school hours uh about
1:04:17 you know between 11 and
1:04:20 19% um of drivers going through the
1:04:22 school zone during school hours when uh
1:04:25 the beacons are flashing are still
1:04:28 speeding um and then also whyp speed
1:04:31 cameras challenges with in-person
1:04:32 enforcement the next question that
1:04:33 always comes up is well can't you just
1:04:36 have a police officer there um as I've
1:04:39 shared our police department and as the
1:04:42 police department has shared has
1:04:43 struggled with Staffing specifically
1:04:45 Staffing for uh sort of traffic sit and
1:04:48 Patrol um and we know that any officer
1:04:51 that is sitting at a school zone waiting
1:04:54 to pull people over is not able to is
1:04:56 not in a position to respond to emergent
1:04:59 needs um also the safety and
1:05:01 effectiveness of Road Pursuits has been
1:05:04 well studied um it is not safe uh it is
1:05:08 not safe for the police officer it is
1:05:09 not safe for the person they are
1:05:10 pursuing um and on busy streets near
1:05:13 where kids are coming and going um
1:05:15 adding more speeding does not um it
1:05:18 doesn't feel like a good
1:05:21 solution what's being considered so as
1:05:24 mentioned we're considering one to two
1:05:26 new school zone speed camera locations
1:05:28 the Administration has recommended um
1:05:30 only one location at Newport Way
1:05:32 Northwest uh we think this is the most
1:05:34 financially reasonable and it is where
1:05:36 we're continuing to see really
1:05:39 consistent um speeding and speeding that
1:05:42 we don't think can be impact by Point um
1:05:46 by police like Point enforcement and
1:05:49 that has to do with the way the roadway
1:05:51 these two roadways are very different
1:05:52 roadways uh Northeast Park Drive where
1:05:55 Grand rdge Elementary is located is a
1:05:58 road that it doesn't technically end the
1:06:01 end of the road around the circle um but
1:06:04 it is an interior road
1:06:07 that we would believe through some
1:06:09 enforcement would pretty rapidly reduce
1:06:12 some police officer enforcement would
1:06:14 pretty rapidly reduce behaviors we also
1:06:17 noticed that the most dangerous speeding
1:06:19 behaviors in that area are happening
1:06:20 outside of school zone hours um while
1:06:23 Newport Way seems to have pretty
1:06:24 consistent speeding with a little tick
1:06:26 up in the afternoon but pretty
1:06:28 consistent uh gr Ridge sees a really big
1:06:31 um increase in in dangerous Behavior Uh
1:06:34 in the around six o'clock hour which is
1:06:37 not a time that we would have those
1:06:39 cameras on in the first place um Council
1:06:43 uh the council committee that has
1:06:45 initially considered this they were
1:06:46 split in a two to one vote two council
1:06:49 members agreed with the recommendation
1:06:51 to just add a location at Newport Way
1:06:54 Northwest at isqua Valley Elementary one
1:06:57 recommended um a school's own camera in
1:06:59 both locations it will go to the full
1:07:02 Council in a couple of weeks um but we
1:07:05 wanted to complete an equity impact
1:07:07 assessment on both locations um ahead of
1:07:10 that meeting so I have a wealth of
1:07:13 knowledge about this topic one that I
1:07:15 never thought I would know anything
1:07:16 about um besides getting my own ticket
1:07:19 from the Bailey gser Elementary School
1:07:22 in Seattle Washington School Zone uh of
1:07:25 which I have been re I have clearly
1:07:27 recklessly driven paths so um I have to
1:07:30 take accountability for that November
1:07:32 25th the city council will consider the
1:07:34 addition of school zone cameras um if
1:07:38 they were to approve one or two uh
1:07:40 Outreach to schools uh additional
1:07:42 Outreach to schools neighborhoods would
1:07:44 happen in December to make sure that we
1:07:47 have plenty of time to amend the
1:07:50 contract with the vendor to hire
1:07:51 part-time staff uh to support any sort
1:07:54 of uh processing of
1:07:57 violations um q1 of 2025 so January
1:08:01 February would involve installation of
1:08:03 cameras but also the trial period that's
1:08:05 mentioned in the equity impact
1:08:07 assessment uh we wouldn't immediately
1:08:09 start ticketing people when the city
1:08:11 originally launched its program no first
1:08:14 time uh offenders you get sort of a
1:08:15 warning notice that said hey you were
1:08:17 caught speeding going through here don't
1:08:19 do it again um so there will be would be
1:08:21 a trial period and then in Q2 new
1:08:24 cameras would become active and
1:08:26 violations would start being nailed um
1:08:28 and so that's just that you have a
1:08:30 general overview of the sort of process
1:08:32 that we find ourselves within the
1:08:34 direction for tonight is really about
1:08:36 the equity impact assessment um should
1:08:39 further consideration for safety along
1:08:41 both corridors be considered rather than
1:08:43 just the two blocks directly next to the
1:08:45 school do you have any concerns about
1:08:46 the findings in the draft Equity impact
1:08:49 assessment and are there any other
1:08:50 Equity
1:08:52 considerations um that should be
1:08:54 considered as part of this process this
1:08:55 is an initial draft um it's based on
1:08:59 Equity impact assessments that other
1:09:01 cities have done um around their
1:09:03 additional cameras but it certainly you
1:09:07 know there could be more in here there
1:09:09 could be less I will share I'm excited
1:09:11 for the questions I will share uh
1:09:13 limited data is it a real issue there's
1:09:16 limited data in a lot of places on you
1:09:19 know I think one thing we've talked
1:09:20 about before is do we have the data the
1:09:23 racial demographics of people that are
1:09:25 getting pulled over and ticketed and the
1:09:26 police department came to you and shared
1:09:29 no we don't our officers don't make
1:09:31 assumptions about uh the race that
1:09:33 people are when we pull them over it's
1:09:35 not part of that that's not part of the
1:09:37 process um which changed dramatically
1:09:41 based on uh legislation that came out in
1:09:43 2020 so you see a real difference um in
1:09:46 the data going from having race data to
1:09:49 having a lot of unknowns um and we've
1:09:52 not seen that change uh so we don't have
1:09:56 that data we do have data on I believe
1:09:59 ultimately when people pay citations I
1:10:01 think we may have data on that but I was
1:10:03 not able to get that data um at this
1:10:05 point so you have what I have uh and I'm
1:10:08 excited to hear all of your
1:10:13 thoughts let's
1:10:16 go Ray lead us off
1:10:20 wow so much to absorb here and I commend
1:10:23 you for your research
1:10:26 um I have no objections to it I was just
1:10:29 curious I I I was educated on and I know
1:10:32 you're not sharing this on your screen
1:10:34 but on
1:10:35 page 63 it has the equity impact
1:10:38 analysis score and it looks like there's
1:10:41 22 categories and everything was marked
1:10:45 as a green check mark except this is for
1:10:48 the new part way location except for
1:10:50 demographics and I was curious why
1:10:52 because there was a demographic report
1:10:53 done under that did you see that Dale
1:10:54 where it say say triangle and an
1:10:56 exclamation point is that assuming that
1:10:58 it's no so it's a it's a concern about
1:11:01 what we found so both locations if the
1:11:05 there there are some concerns based on
1:11:08 the demographics of the residents in
1:11:11 both neighborhoods that there could be
1:11:14 some unintended impact on particular
1:11:17 groups so Newport Way Northwest the
1:11:20 neighborhood surrounding the school
1:11:22 there significantly um
1:11:26 older population than the city as a
1:11:28 whole um though also significantly wider
1:11:32 population the city as a whole
1:11:34 significantly uh almost almost entirely
1:11:38 homeowners um but also as as they are
1:11:41 elderly many I would imagine on fixed
1:11:43 income so you see a slightly lower
1:11:45 median income and so the cons so the
1:11:48 warning uh there is around we know that
1:11:52 by putting a camera in a neighborhood
1:11:56 people that live in that neighborhood
1:11:57 encounter that camera more frequently
1:12:00 than people that do not and so there's
1:12:01 just a concern potentially of that group
1:12:04 being disproportionately impacted um by
1:12:08 a camera there I see there's also a
1:12:11 thing around the demographics for the a
1:12:13 camera up in Grand Ridge which is a much
1:12:15 more racially diverse neighborhood um
1:12:19 here though a med a higher median income
1:12:23 um and also I would say has the
1:12:26 potential to have a a really really
1:12:28 positive um impact as you also see a
1:12:30 much higher um a much higher proportion
1:12:34 of of households with ch with children
1:12:37 and so you would imagine with school AG
1:12:39 children walking to that school so I
1:12:41 think it's it's an exclamation point to
1:12:43 say hey hey hey take a second look at
1:12:46 this and know that if you say yes on
1:12:48 this there is the potential for this to
1:12:51 have a disproportionate effect on a
1:12:53 group that we would be concerned about
1:12:55 I see okay thank
1:12:59 you related question for me so when I
1:13:03 was looking at the demographics around
1:13:05 Newport I and the one in Grand Ridge um
1:13:09 so from my my kids experience with
1:13:11 schools they they were bust across town
1:13:14 quite far away from where we live to go
1:13:17 to school yeah and so I think you know
1:13:20 maybe a missing data point for us to
1:13:22 think about is what is the number of
1:13:25 school kids who do walk to school yeah
1:13:28 um who walk to IV and who walk to Grand
1:13:30 Ridge so like what is the pedestrian
1:13:33 traffic especially you know during
1:13:35 school hours school kids in particular
1:13:38 but then I also know around the ground
1:13:40 Ridge area the highlands you know is
1:13:43 designed to be a walkable community so
1:13:45 pedestrian traffic is high is high
1:13:48 regardless of the time so I think you
1:13:50 know even though this might be more
1:13:51 focused on school safety I think if if
1:13:55 it's broadened out to pedestrian safety
1:13:58 there might be another rationale for
1:14:00 having it up at Grand Ridge y um because
1:14:03 I mean I drive by IV all the time and I
1:14:06 don't see many kids on newort way and
1:14:11 when during this the beacon flashing
1:14:14 time so it just makes me
1:14:16 wonder how many pedestrians are we
1:14:19 trying to keep safer there versus Grand
1:14:22 Rich yep so that that raised to question
1:14:25 for me that's a great question em then
1:14:28 so Emma I think you can get like the bus
1:14:30 versus you know walking y um
1:14:33 demographics probably from the school
1:14:35 district um I'm going to relate it to
1:14:38 the two block
1:14:41 question it seems probably more of an
1:14:44 issue around newort is if if there were
1:14:47 cameras
1:14:48 there is there a logical diversion path
1:14:52 that cars would take and then are we
1:14:55 passing the speeding problem on to
1:14:56 another couple of blocks that could be
1:14:59 uh where school kids walk anyways so if
1:15:03 if that is the the next logical place
1:15:07 for cars to be I think then it's
1:15:09 worthwhile to do a little bit more
1:15:11 investigation about pedestrian traffic
1:15:13 flow yeah and we have done some so
1:15:16 Newport has unsurprisingly like been an
1:15:18 issue um and we get we get a good number
1:15:21 of calls about specifically during
1:15:24 before school and after school the
1:15:27 congestion reckless driving and also
1:15:30 just the in they just installed that
1:15:32 Crossing light because you can't you
1:15:36 can't get out of there um if you're on
1:15:38 foot and you're going that way um we
1:15:41 don't expect based on the models we
1:15:44 don't expect there to be a diversion off
1:15:47 of Newport way because actually Newport
1:15:49 Way is the diversion people are cutting
1:15:52 through on Newport way because they are
1:15:54 avoiding downtown where they are
1:15:57 avoiding the ne with the the state route
1:16:00 the next route over um and so actually
1:16:02 that's where we're getting most of our
1:16:04 um reckless driving is
1:16:09 nonresidents trying to get not end up in
1:16:13 the congestion of sunset way yeah and
1:16:16 front and that other the road is
1:16:20 escaping
1:16:21 my but likely we wouldn't see because
1:16:24 there is no cut over Street between
1:16:27 those two you would have you there's
1:16:30 something that goes straight through no
1:16:32 other street that go straight through as
1:16:34 someone that drives to tibits uh Valley
1:16:37 Manor from uh City Hall fairly
1:16:40 often yeah I was thinking about like the
1:16:43 cut cut over into maybe the the school
1:16:46 administration area and then cutting
1:16:50 back onto Newport Way or you know
1:16:52 something like that which would be
1:16:53 cutting making cars go more into the
1:16:57 residential
1:17:00 yes maybe would cut down through Gilman
1:17:03 Village yeah oh probably not that far I
1:17:06 was thinking of like diverting like a
1:17:07 couple of blocks in because Juniper does
1:17:11 connect Juniper just goes all the way
1:17:14 over there's not a good con like there's
1:17:17 not a good through Street okay um we we
1:17:21 did look at this because it was
1:17:22 something we were concerned about given
1:17:25 that it is already being used as a pass
1:17:27 through Street would people find a new
1:17:28 pass through Street and I will say we
1:17:31 are hopeful you know we're required
1:17:33 there's there's a five-year lease term
1:17:36 for a camera um a required fiveyear
1:17:38 lease term we do hope this would be a
1:17:41 temporary we'd have this for the next
1:17:44 five years until we're ready to actually
1:17:46 put the roundabout in there are two
1:17:48 roundabouts that are scheduled to go in
1:17:51 um that would actually hopefully
1:17:53 mitigate some of the speeding that we're
1:17:54 seeing
1:17:57 what does the community think you know
1:17:59 we haven't talked to the schools yet I
1:18:02 think that's the next group that we need
1:18:04 to go to um we get a lot of a lot of
1:18:10 community input we get a lot of calls
1:18:12 and we get a lot of C- click fix
1:18:13 neighborhood traffic concerns
1:18:15 specifically around these two areas um
1:18:19 and so it's it's high enough that we'd
1:18:22 want to do something we want to
1:18:24 intervene in some way the city has not
1:18:26 done like a door Todo any sort of survey
1:18:30 specifically about this um given that it
1:18:34 already has these locations flashing
1:18:37 with school's own camera or school's own
1:18:39 lights um the expectation that people
1:18:42 don't exceed the speed limit there by
1:18:45 you know six miles over the speed limit
1:18:47 feels within the administration feels
1:18:49 like within its
1:18:50 purview and how much do how much do you
1:18:53 get complaints about
1:18:55 just having Delight on second oh I mean
1:18:58 they complain there's complaints but I
1:19:00 would say
1:19:03 not it has no bearing on folks's driving
1:19:07 record and so generally people I think
1:19:10 they probably complain to the court when
1:19:11 they I have I have taken uh personal
1:19:14 phone calls from residents who are eager
1:19:16 to get out of their ticket I don't know
1:19:18 why they think the assistant to the city
1:19:19 administrator has any uh impact on that
1:19:23 um I think at the end of the day every
1:19:26 conversation I've had where I've also
1:19:28 admitted getting nabbed by one of these
1:19:30 cameras is sort of like yep we probably
1:19:32 shouldn't be uh going that fast in a
1:19:35 school
1:19:36 zone so I think it's it's one of those
1:19:39 things where you know no one likes
1:19:40 getting a ticket no one likes getting a
1:19:41 ticket um but there is I think also a
1:19:44 little bit of understanding of like we
1:19:45 should be and how much is the ticket so
1:19:48 the tickets for the city of a squad they
1:19:50 $124 they are lower than I think almost
1:19:55 every other
1:19:57 jurisdictions uh there there has been
1:19:59 questions of whether we should charge
1:20:01 more I think the city feels like that is
1:20:03 is a enough of a um financial burden
1:20:07 without overly burdening people um and
1:20:09 one thing that did come up in the equity
1:20:11 impact assessment was studying uh this
1:20:13 the state actually mandates that we make
1:20:16 um that we are we cut our ticket cost
1:20:18 and half by 50% by anyone that's on
1:20:21 state um a state program okay so you you
1:20:26 yes so you can yeah so you can
1:20:27 demonstrate that you on uh some sort of
1:20:31 program assistance program and get that
1:20:33 that ticket amount reduced okay um I
1:20:36 also think one thing that came up as
1:20:37 part of this assessment and in
1:20:39 conversation with the police department
1:20:40 is an alternative so as they are
1:20:43 building back up their traffic um
1:20:46 division uh I know the chief is very
1:20:48 interested in offering traffic school or
1:20:51 some sort of alternative for folks
1:20:52 especially for like young kids kids who
1:20:55 maybe are the one driving uh and their
1:20:57 parent gets the ticket and the ability
1:20:59 for the parent to say I wasn't driving I
1:21:02 would like my kid to attend this like 90
1:21:04 minute uh don't speed in school zones
1:21:06 program so given that it doesn't end up
1:21:09 on one's driving record we you know
1:21:10 we're still looking for other ways to
1:21:12 make sure that there can be alternatives
1:21:14 to paying um and that's one of the
1:21:15 recommendations in the equity impact
1:21:17 assessment is that the police department
1:21:19 um moves forward with the with the
1:21:22 creation of that that's great
1:21:24 um Ray I see your hand up I also maybe
1:21:27 saw Shay's hand
1:21:30 up yes you did but um my question got
1:21:33 answered um about the cost of the
1:21:35 tickets and the sliding fees all of that
1:21:38 was actually answered awesome yeah most
1:21:41 jurisdictions their ticket their Base
1:21:44 ticket is much higher and they actually
1:21:45 have like a an even increased amount
1:21:48 over a certain speed threshold um I
1:21:50 think some cities if you're above like
1:21:52 31 or 32 miles hour
1:21:55 all of a sudden the ticket can be up to
1:21:57 $290 we don't feel like that the the
1:21:59 point of this is not to make money the
1:22:01 point of this is to to change Behavior
1:22:03 without burdening people to also make
1:22:05 sure that it's
1:22:06 financially it is something the city can
1:22:08 cover the costs of and that would be
1:22:11 nice to have additional Revenue to go
1:22:13 towards actual Street improvements you
1:22:15 know we've seen a real slowdown in our
1:22:17 capital projects for Street improvements
1:22:19 for pay for concrete um which is our our
1:22:22 concrete plan is our sidewalk Pro
1:22:24 program uh what does Newport Way
1:22:26 Northwest need a sidewalk um and our
1:22:29 ability to fund those programs we would
1:22:31 love to be able to have dollars to do
1:22:33 that um because we know that ultimately
1:22:35 is the thing that changes driving
1:22:37 behavior um Ray go
1:22:40 ahead um ju again just a question
1:22:43 opportunity to educate myself on the
1:22:45 table that lists the demographic
1:22:47 characteristics so I'm looking at page
1:22:49 59 with the table that you all put
1:22:51 together the so let's just start with
1:22:54 the very first one Newport Way
1:22:56 neighborhood tract and it says race and
1:22:58 ethnicity and it captures white alone
1:23:02 residents bipo residents Hispanic
1:23:04 residents those three numbers don't
1:23:06 total 100% so one what where what
1:23:10 happened to the other ethnicities in
1:23:11 this area and two why why is this why is
1:23:14 this exceeding one% how did they decide
1:23:16 to pick on those three ethnic the first
1:23:19 two should add to 100% um white alone or
1:23:22 bipac and uh the way that Hispanic is
1:23:27 gathered in the census or the American
1:23:29 Community survey um is not as a race but
1:23:32 is as an ethnicity it's actually the
1:23:34 only ethnicity that's gathered in the
1:23:36 census it's a fascinating fascinating
1:23:39 and also fascinating history on how that
1:23:40 came to be um but so they should all
1:23:44 exceed 100% but the first two uh should
1:23:47 total to 100% um Ray the the shortest
1:23:51 answer is space and suc synness um I
1:23:55 have it broken down by all the the all
1:23:59 the the racial groups offered by the
1:24:01 American Community survey um it would be
1:24:04 a really big table uh and so just for
1:24:07 just for the purpose of something short
1:24:09 but if if the group
1:24:11 recommends um the full table or
1:24:14 recommends more of a breakdown there we
1:24:16 can absolutely offer that to the to the
1:24:18 city council oh no it was just a
1:24:20 curiosity because um I mean if that's
1:24:24 largest demographics in that
1:24:26 neighborhood that serve that that that
1:24:29 that um utiliz these uh streets then
1:24:32 that makes sense to put them on top so I
1:24:34 was just wondering what U where you came
1:24:37 across those numbers so thank
1:24:42 you the one question that I had for you
1:24:46 is um it it looked like
1:24:49 the my favorite traffic camera up by the
1:24:52 high school and middle school um that's
1:24:55 been running for 15 years now or so what
1:25:00 have we learned about the impact that on
1:25:04 uh speeding and ticketing revenue
1:25:08 disproportionality or inequity blah blah
1:25:10 blah absolutely so what we learn is uh
1:25:14 maybe not so surprising that the cameras
1:25:17 have a really good impact on they have a
1:25:20 really quick impact so in the first like
1:25:22 couple of years if you you have the same
1:25:25 drivers driving on the same street they
1:25:27 work very effectively very quickly um to
1:25:30 the point where they they oftentimes put
1:25:32 themselves out of business pretty
1:25:33 quickly as well um which is what we
1:25:35 would actually expect to have happen uh
1:25:38 up in the highlands is that we actually
1:25:39 would expect that the um revenues would
1:25:43 not cover the expenditures after
1:25:45 basically year three um because it's an
1:25:48 internal Street you're not getting any
1:25:49 pass through traffic um that's what's a
1:25:52 little different about Second Avenue and
1:25:54 as different about Newport Way is that
1:25:56 you have a good amount of ongoing paths
1:25:57 through traffic so folks that are
1:25:59 cutting over those streets to avoid
1:26:01 congestion on other streets and so you
1:26:02 get new drivers um what we saw in the
1:26:05 data is that from the implementation of
1:26:08 the Cameron in 2008 to about 2012 like
1:26:11 you see a pretty dramatic decrease and
1:26:14 then you see a leveling out you see a
1:26:17 stable state where about I think I
1:26:19 actually get the data today from um and
1:26:22 I can look it up here in a second
1:26:24 um I got the data today on sort of on
1:26:27 average how many uh violations during
1:26:30 the school day and I think it's like two
1:26:32 200 maybe a day um and about 70 of those
1:26:36 get paid um so we also don't not
1:26:39 everyone pays I think which is also like
1:26:41 an important thing to know and that's
1:26:43 based into our assumptions about these
1:26:44 sites being vibl financially viable is
1:26:47 about a pay rate of somewhere between 45
1:26:50 35 and
1:26:51 45% um but during school hours we're
1:26:54 still seeing about 200 Speeders on
1:26:57 Second Avenue um so you see this initial
1:27:01 drop off and then you see a leveling out
1:27:03 and I think that's why this isn't a
1:27:05 long-term solution really we haven't had
1:27:08 the ability I think to do the road
1:27:10 redesign there that we'd like to see um
1:27:13 and a lot of this has to do with
1:27:15 limitations on revenues for capital
1:27:18 projects and
1:27:19 transportation um so that one has stayed
1:27:22 there just because it's stayed there and
1:27:24 there's not been a desire to rethink it
1:27:29 um at this point in
1:27:31 time yeah I'm just I'm thinking
1:27:35 about I mean obviously it's a different
1:27:37 neighborhood so the demographics are
1:27:40 different but
1:27:42 if if that same type of uh exercise were
1:27:47 done one second and certain groups were
1:27:50 bubbling up as possibly being you know
1:27:53 more L impacted by it and then seeing
1:27:57 actually were they or I don't yeah I
1:27:59 don't know
1:28:01 just yeah you kind of tested data out as
1:28:05 a way to learn what would happen here to
1:28:08 be able to predict that could be
1:28:10 something and one thing that I've been
1:28:11 thinking about and what wasn't required
1:28:13 under the original program and so second
1:28:15 second we report out on number of
1:28:17 violations and things like that um but I
1:28:19 don't think they're in the same way that
1:28:21 it's now required by law to do a pretty
1:28:23 comprehensive program evaluation which
1:28:25 is what's recommended in this Equity
1:28:26 impact assessment um that's not that
1:28:29 camera isn't required to do that because
1:28:31 it's was adopted so long ago um and so
1:28:35 the hope would be um if we were to move
1:28:37 forward that would get brought in um as
1:28:41 well to any program evaluation moving
1:28:43 forward because we'd now have more than
1:28:45 one camera in the program but it's a
1:28:48 great
1:28:49 point with my free time I would actually
1:28:51 love to look into that if I could like
1:28:53 find myself couple hours to just pull
1:28:55 the data on that uh census track that
1:28:57 would be really it'd be probably
1:28:58 actually pretty easy to
1:28:59 do so I I reviewed this information and
1:29:03 um I had some initial concerns that were
1:29:06 um addressed just um by one of my main
1:29:09 concerns were uh police
1:29:12 interactions um with um uh someone that
1:29:15 would be um uh you know caught under one
1:29:19 of these um traffic cameras um because I
1:29:22 am a a supporter of having less police
1:29:25 interaction on uh traffic matters
1:29:29 because I think police resources should
1:29:30 be used in different ways y so um
1:29:33 certainly the use of a um a traffic
1:29:37 camera would certainly be I think more
1:29:39 preferable yeah um so um that was a
1:29:42 concern that was a laid uh based on my
1:29:44 review um and then obviously the
1:29:46 demographics of the the areas that was
1:29:48 addressed to by that um the graph or
1:29:52 that chart that Ray pointed out
1:29:54 um because I was certainly concerned
1:29:56 about the the demographics of the the
1:29:58 area um and specifically about the
1:30:01 resident types are we looking at areas
1:30:03 that are predominantly uh apartments or
1:30:06 are they are they homes because that
1:30:07 that makes a huge difference in terms of
1:30:09 equity so that's been addressed and then
1:30:11 of course what we've all talked about
1:30:13 the cost of tickets um the uh the the
1:30:17 irwins have um uh contributed uh to we
1:30:21 all we've all contributed yes yes so uh
1:30:24 told my husband he should get a plaque
1:30:26 on on
1:30:27 second because of uh not leaving the
1:30:30 house on time and getting someone to
1:30:32 school so um now I think that the report
1:30:35 is very comprehensive and um I think
1:30:37 this would certainly be a viable idea
1:30:40 and um I don't think you would have a
1:30:42 huge uh impact to equity based on um the
1:30:48 I think some of the uh the
1:30:49 recommendations that are made here in
1:30:51 terms of um traffic school signage and
1:30:55 other things that we can do to kind of
1:30:57 um you know offset some of the the the
1:30:59 unintended consequences or impacts so
1:31:03 comprehensive should propose this idea
1:31:06 of the the donor plaque um what
1:31:11 you that in in the you get to put your
1:31:13 initials in the new the new concrete a
1:31:16 badge of honor to live
1:31:19 in at least
1:31:21 once something to add on to Leslie's
1:31:23 comment related to the signage and
1:31:25 Communications just um I know this is a
1:31:29 a draft but being mindful of putting
1:31:31 that into multiple
1:31:33 languages when the time comes
1:31:36 yep yeah and we're thinking we I mean if
1:31:39 if it moves forward and it may not um
1:31:43 but if it moves forward I think one of
1:31:44 the I've already spoken with our
1:31:46 Communications team on also Outreach we
1:31:48 need to first and foremost re-re out to
1:31:50 schools um because something needs to go
1:31:53 home with students um that is the like
1:31:56 first and
1:31:57 foremost um so that's that we've already
1:32:00 started that conversation just in case
1:32:02 it does um but you know and I know they
1:32:05 are thinking a lot about language um
1:32:07 accessibility as well so also I think it
1:32:10 was mentioned in this report if not
1:32:12 worth mentioning you know we also
1:32:14 noticed through this process that
1:32:16 currently the city doesn't share any
1:32:18 information about our tra like the one
1:32:20 camera why we have it um why traffic
1:32:24 like that none of that exists on the
1:32:25 website um and so we'd want there to be
1:32:28 an educational component to you know
1:32:30 what think Lesly you just put it really
1:32:33 well but like why this instead of
1:32:35 traffic cops um and things like that um
1:32:39 and so we've talked a lot about like
1:32:41 building out a more comprehens actually
1:32:42 building out a web page to share more
1:32:44 about this if if it were even if it
1:32:46 doesn't move forward just even about our
1:32:48 current location yeah because people
1:32:50 think you're getting
1:32:52 rich and we are not
1:32:54 and you explained it really well yeah so
1:32:57 and literally I was thinking that needs
1:32:59 needs to get out there yeah on the
1:33:02 public record our school zone fund so
1:33:04 our all the fund from this goes into the
1:33:06 school zone safety fund um it doesn't go
1:33:08 into the general fund it goes into the
1:33:09 school zone safety fund that then pays
1:33:11 out the sort of pays out the
1:33:14 administrative costs so to the municipal
1:33:17 court to the police department as they
1:33:18 do the processing and our vendor um and
1:33:21 then additional funds that go out to
1:33:23 capital projects as they're funded um
1:33:26 that fund is set to be um in the black
1:33:30 uh net or would be good it's in the
1:33:32 black right now it's said to be in the
1:33:33 red in 26 um because we're not we're not
1:33:37 making money off of this we're we're
1:33:39 paying the to administer the program and
1:33:41 we we were very lucky a couple years ago
1:33:43 to have enough money in our uh in there
1:33:46 to pay for some of the really nicely
1:33:49 redone sidewalks that you've seen and
1:33:50 that nicely repaved Road um some of the
1:33:54 radry projects around town over the
1:33:56 course of the last uh you know decade
1:33:59 but it is not a fund that is running big
1:34:02 um and it doesn't pay into the general
1:34:04 fund which is important to emphasize
1:34:06 good story to tell yeah
1:34:09 yeah um I guess one one thing that is
1:34:15 sticking in my mind and I I'm pretty
1:34:18 sure the data aren't available for it is
1:34:21 this is about safety yeah and I I know
1:34:24 like accidents avoided injuries avoided
1:34:27 like the avoidance of something is
1:34:29 really hard to measure but if there is a
1:34:31 way you know like fancy math statistics
1:34:35 you know if you got like a professional
1:34:37 program evaluator in this to be able to
1:34:40 to kind of know like
1:34:44 what lives being saved you know things
1:34:47 like that because I mean remember a few
1:34:49 years ago when there was child who was
1:34:52 struck by a car for up on Newport Way
1:34:55 that's just a tragedy yeah yeah yeah
1:34:59 I'll I'll certainly pose a question to
1:35:01 our crime prevention analyst I think you
1:35:04 know as you many of you have met her
1:35:06 already she is a well wizard with
1:35:07 numbers um and has an epidemiology
1:35:10 background so certainly deals in models
1:35:13 um she's put some great data together
1:35:15 for this for us uh and it would be
1:35:17 interesting to chat with her about the
1:35:19 ability to any sort of predictive
1:35:21 basically the opposite of Predictive
1:35:22 Analytics
1:35:24 um yeah yeah yeah because you see I
1:35:29 mean all of what we have there reported
1:35:33 is what's been reported yes which is
1:35:36 really hard to get near misses because
1:35:39 often times they're not being reported
1:35:41 and if they are they're being reported
1:35:42 as this person was driving recklessly so
1:35:45 we can use that the reports is a little
1:35:48 bit of a sort of proxy but it's hard to
1:35:51 know you know where we are currently and
1:35:53 then what the impact would be um The
1:35:56 Hope is that we see a redu we see the
1:35:59 expected reduction um in speed so yeah
1:36:07 great uh oh I think we lost well we lost
1:36:12 uh ver said she had to leave but
1:36:17 sh I think we just lost Quorum so that
1:36:20 might
1:36:21 be we might be
1:36:26 which we could journ and then do our
1:36:28 closing plot the record oh she's back
1:36:30 sh's back thank goodness Shay you gave
1:36:34 us a temporary heart attack we're glad
1:36:37 you're back sorry I kind of dropped by
1:36:40 accident there switching devices you're
1:36:42 good we're we're we're wrapping up
1:36:44 momentarily so um any last thoughts on
1:36:48 this topic though
1:36:52 before okay great thank you I appreciate
1:36:54 I have robust feedback from this group
1:36:57 um again this will go to council along
1:37:00 with the overarching
1:37:02 presentation um on the 25th of November
1:37:05 please feel free to tune in please feel
1:37:07 free to leave any sort of public comment
1:37:09 you would like to make as a member of
1:37:11 the community um and any notes you have
1:37:13 between now and then let me know I'll
1:37:15 probably finalize materials for this uh
1:37:18 the end of next week so anything between
1:37:21 now and then would be super helpful
1:37:25 great and so now we're on other business
1:37:29 announcements um I guess I pause to see
1:37:32 if anyone has other business or
1:37:34 announcements I have a little thing like
1:37:37 two one is we just had that joint
1:37:41 meeting and um this may not be true for
1:37:44 everybody else but I experienced the
1:37:47 fact that I was so interested in this
1:37:49 subject that I forgot that I was doing e
1:37:52 perspective and all I would need sound
1:37:55 so lame but is something that says an
1:37:58 equity an equity perspective or an
1:38:00 equity view when we do these joint
1:38:02 because I've noticed that I've done it
1:38:03 before I'll go through like the first 20
1:38:05 minutes and then I'll go I need to be
1:38:06 thinking about this perspective not
1:38:08 because I'm interested in this
1:38:10 subject it's just it would be helpful to
1:38:13 me not anybody else so my my second
1:38:16 thing is I forgotten her name but she
1:38:19 had sent an email to all of us about the
1:38:22 welcoming
1:38:24 lack of warmth and welcoming in our city
1:38:27 public buildings it's p yes and I I
1:38:34 would like to follow up on it at some
1:38:37 point great
1:38:39 um noted uh one of the groups that was
1:38:43 supposed to come to us as part of the
1:38:44 equity impact assessment was our admin
1:38:46 Services team talking about the
1:38:48 facilities uh the facilities update you
1:38:50 know there there is this far off plan
1:38:53 right now um of what a new city
1:38:56 hall in whatever shape and space it will
1:38:59 be at some point would be like that
1:39:02 building over there really um is not it
1:39:06 it was built as a police station it
1:39:08 feels like a police station um there is
1:39:12 there they right now the mayor is
1:39:13 forming a task force to think about
1:39:15 facilities and a plan for facilities um
1:39:18 so I would encourage everyone to know
1:39:20 about that and and ask about it um but I
1:39:24 will see if admin Services can come and
1:39:25 talk to us about their facilities plans
1:39:27 and how they're thinking about that
1:39:29 we'll definitely put it on our work plan
1:39:35 2025 other announcements or
1:39:42 topics okay so maybe let's wrap up with
1:39:45 her checkout question um we just had
1:39:49 three really interesting topics uh that
1:39:54 I think covered pretty broad range of
1:39:57 County or S City operations um so just
1:40:01 wanted to know how folks are feeling as
1:40:03 we wind down the meeting you know what's
1:40:06 a word or a sentence to check out
1:40:19 with I can start us off um the extrovert
1:40:24 in me uh but I'm feeling pretty
1:40:26 invigorated I've some of these topics we
1:40:30 the the glossery we' intended to talk
1:40:32 about in September and that got bumped
1:40:34 um the thing that we just talked about
1:40:36 is something that I've been thinking
1:40:39 about and working on for the last couple
1:40:40 of well the last week or so um so just
1:40:43 nice to get those things out in the open
1:40:45 and get um really valuable feedback from
1:40:48 a group of folks that I just really
1:40:50 admire and use opinions I value and
1:40:54 um yeah so thank
1:41:00 you I'll go next um I I feel educated
1:41:04 this we had so much that we shared today
1:41:06 um with the reports and um all the hard
1:41:09 work that the city has done so thank you
1:41:12 Dale for putting all this together and
1:41:13 educating
1:41:16 me yeah
1:41:21 Shay H yes I was going to say
1:41:24 enlightning I really found all this
1:41:27 information to just be really good and
1:41:30 it it didn't seem as heavy as some of
1:41:33 the things the other topics that we
1:41:34 often go over the equity Board gets a
1:41:37 lot of tough things and tonight it seems
1:41:40 like we got something that made sense we
1:41:42 were able to make a decision right away
1:41:44 we got out some really good questions
1:41:46 that got answers it was just really
1:41:49 enlightening and just um very
1:41:54 inspiring because it's like okay now
1:41:56 what do we do for the next meeting
1:41:57 because what what can we get so I I I
1:42:02 really just felt a lot of joy in this
1:42:04 meeting so um I don't know which word
1:42:08 best describes it but it was definitely
1:42:10 very comforting to go through this
1:42:12 meeting and and feel like we got a lot
1:42:14 of stuff
1:42:16 accomplished
1:42:19 fantastic um the the word that I think
1:42:22 comes to mind from me is just engaging I
1:42:24 feel tied to these agenda items because
1:42:28 um I think it it really speaks to what
1:42:30 we're doing here on this board and um it
1:42:34 it just makes sense for me tonight to
1:42:36 kind of understand this in terms of um
1:42:39 you know the effect of you know laws
1:42:41 that we that are are passed the fact
1:42:44 that you know there's cost for tickets
1:42:46 that where that money go so I feel like
1:42:48 I'm kind of tied closer to the city and
1:42:50 kind of engaged in terms of you know
1:42:52 this one thing the impact
1:42:55 so and I'll end with proud of this city
1:42:58 I mean this glossery of terms is
1:43:01 fantastic and that your values are set
1:43:04 by your budget right you're you showing
1:43:06 exactly what you believe and that the
1:43:08 money is being put in in a time of
1:43:11 difficulty is amazing so
1:43:14 proud I'll say hopeful I think um in the
1:43:17 last few days there's there's
1:43:21 uh my initial inclination might have
1:43:24 been more to feel a little hopeless at
1:43:26 what's going on in you know at a
1:43:27 national level but knowing that we can
1:43:30 keep doing this good important work you
1:43:33 know in line with our values is um it
1:43:37 gives me
1:43:40 help great all right and with that I
1:43:45 will adjourn this November meeting of
1:43:48 the equity board at
1:43:50 7:51 and our next meeting is scheduled
1:43:53 for December 4th so thank you all and
1:43:56 have a good
1:43:57 evening thank you