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Wednesday, May 4, 2022

6:00 PM · 2h 4m
Topics tracked across meetings:
Recognition of Human Services Manager Monica Negrila ID 1757 2/3
Community Engagement Committee Report Out [15 minutes] 1/2
Section
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a
Board Membership
packet pp.3
Staff report:
EQUITY BOARD Staff Liaison Monica Negrila, Human About Services Manager Created in 2021, this board is to support and Email cultivate the voices of the diverse communities in Issaquah by advising the Regular Members Mayor, City Council and City departments on 2022 - Cristina Abonce the City’s plans, policies, regulations, and 2023 - Megan Reichley* programs related to equity initiatives. 2023 - Alisa Stewart 2024 - Lorna Gilmour 2024 - Hellen Kibenge Membership 2024 - Lucrecia Choto The Equity Board is comprised of nine 2025 - Ray Manahan regular members, with four-year terms; 2025 - Tony Curry and three alternates, with two year terms. 2025 - Shalanda Fleming Initial terms of the board are staggered. All member are appointed by the Mayor and subject to confirmation by the City Council. Alternate Members Terms expire April 30 of the year listed. For 2022 - Jacob Rubenstein* more…
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of April 6, 2022
packet pp.5–8
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 04-06-22 Equity Board Minutes Page [0001] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Equity Board 6:00 PM Virtual Meeting Wednesday, April 6, 2022 MINUTES
4. AGENDA ITEMS
4b
Officers' Selection Facilitated by: Monica Negrila, Human Services Manager
Action · 10 min
Topics: Equity
5. COMMITTEE REPORT
5a
Community Engagement Committee: Report Out
10 min · Committee Chair
0:01 all righty we are going to go ahead and
0:04 call the meeting to order today is may
0:06 4th
0:07 uh 2022
0:09 it's 602 p.m
0:11 um we um i want to acknowledge that we
0:14 have quorum of the equity board members
0:16 and i would like to ask monica to do
0:19 roll call for us
0:23 good evening uh shea and board members
0:26 this is monica gorilla and yes i would
0:29 love to let's do a roll call
0:32 tonight i know
0:35 we have one board member who is absent
0:38 today ray manahan he's absent excused
0:42 and for the first part of the meeting
0:44 uh we heard from um kelly kaliman is
0:48 actually on the phone i believe we'll
0:51 double check here in a moment uh but she
0:54 will join on camera in um
0:56 as soon as you can in the next 20 or so
0:58 minutes so with that though let's do the
1:00 roll call um i'll call your name and
1:03 please um indicate that you're here when
1:05 you hear your name
1:06 christina bonsem
1:10 hi everyone thank you christina good
1:13 evening uh megan um richly
1:18 hi megan good evening elisa stewart
1:22 here
1:23 hi alyssa lorna gilmore
1:26 here
1:27 thank you lorna helen key bench
1:30 i don't see helen here but i do know
1:33 that we've been communicating last week
1:35 and she's been traveling
1:37 uh so she may be absent due to work
1:39 travel
1:40 will circle back if she's able to join
1:42 later tonight
1:44 um lucrezia
1:45 also i don't hear her i know that she's
1:47 been also traveling internationally so
1:50 she may or may not be able to join
1:51 tonight
1:53 um we spoke ray manahan he um is absent
1:56 tonight tony curry
2:02 i'm here
2:04 hi tony good evening and uh quick thing
2:06 did you get my message you and jay about
2:10 you're gonna leave a little bit uh early
2:12 tonight yes you're gonna be here for the
2:14 first 45 minutes thank you tony you're
2:17 welcome
2:18 and say fleming our chair i'm here
2:23 you're here
2:24 um and then jacob rubenstein he is gonna
2:27 be also um absent tonight uh he's not
2:30 able to make it
2:32 um pretty muddy pin
2:36 hi pretty thank you
2:38 and caliman i'm gonna check because i do
2:41 see a phone number and i wanna make sure
2:44 to see if
2:45 uh the phone number with four two five
2:47 seven seven
2:48 three do you mind unmuting and
2:51 introducing yourself
2:56 i'm gonna also try to
3:00 unmute you i unmuted you on my end
3:04 good evening
3:07 can you introduce yourself
3:18 once again the call
3:20 number four two five seven seven three
3:25 my guess is that it's kelly
3:27 because i have her cell phone number but
3:29 i still don't see the last four digits i
3:31 would love to confirm
3:36 we cannot hear her so we'll check back
3:38 in um
3:42 again i'm guessing it's cali and i'm
3:44 hoping she can hear us we just cannot
3:45 hear her
3:48 and also in the attendance i'll see we
3:52 have sophia
3:54 who is our
3:56 volunteer intern
3:58 in high school that concludes the role
4:01 call for this evening uh shea thank you
4:05 thank you so much and we do have quorum
4:08 so before we move through the agenda
4:10 items i would like to go ahead and just
4:13 give us a few housekeeping rules just to
4:15 make sure that everyone knows what we're
4:17 doing and how we're communicating with
4:19 each other
4:20 um because
4:22 of course due
4:24 to the virtual format of today's meeting
4:27 we want to start with those few
4:28 guidelines to help everybody through so
4:31 essentially
4:32 due to the governor's proclamation um
4:36 2028 related to covet 19 emergency and
4:38 open public meetings this meeting is
4:40 being held remotely uh via webex or
4:43 phone
4:44 um if you'd like to uh speak or
4:46 participate in discussion we ask that
4:48 you please be concise make sure that
4:50 your information or questions are
4:52 relevant and that you are courteous and
4:54 fair to others we also want to remind
4:57 you that if you have a question please
5:00 write that in the chat box
5:02 except do not include the question
5:04 itself
5:05 just because if we have some people on
5:06 the phone we want to make sure they know
5:08 what your questions are
5:09 additionally if you have any comments
5:11 please also only write comment in the
5:13 box and then we'll address you so that
5:14 you can make your um comment
5:17 um lastly we want to just ask that
5:19 everyone remember that our interpreters
5:21 need us to speak slowly so that we can
5:24 make sure that they can get the
5:25 information over to anyone who needs
5:28 their service
5:29 all right and if we're ready we will go
5:31 ahead and move through the um approval
5:35 of or i'm sorry we'll ask if there's any
5:37 public comment
5:39 monica did we have anything that you
5:41 know of
5:42 um and actually you're okay with the
5:43 approval of the minutes but now for
5:45 public comments if we would like no we
5:47 didn't have anyone sign up for public
5:49 comments and i don't see anyone else in
5:50 attendance yeah either so thank you
5:54 fantastic all right then the next thing
5:56 we'll do is look at the minutes from
5:58 april 6 2022 and have you all take a
6:01 quick look at it just to
6:03 allow us to approve that minute
6:16 alrighty and does anyone have any
6:18 amendments that we need to make to the
6:20 minutes
6:23 no nothing as of yet alrighty
6:25 then we will move forward if there is no
6:28 amendments or objections to the minutes
6:30 i'd like to propose the minutes be
6:32 unanimously approved
6:36 alrighty then we are ready to move on
6:39 all right next on our agenda we have
6:42 some equity framework training
6:44 um and i will go ahead and turn it over
6:46 to monica to introduce our guest
6:49 thank you very much jay good evening
6:51 again board members
6:53 i have the privilege to introduce to you
6:55 tonight chan and kelly ray
6:58 who is our equity consultant at the city
7:01 the city
7:02 started working with hannah and i
7:04 believe last year was the first year and
7:06 we continued through this year
7:08 chennai helped the city with conducting
7:12 trainings for
7:14 for
7:15 staff
7:16 she will continue this year with
7:17 conducting training for boards and
7:20 commissions and she also worked with
7:21 city council
7:23 she's here tonight to work with
7:25 all of you on the equity framework
7:29 proposal for city council
7:31 provides a more in-depth training and
7:34 also i'm excited that we are going to
7:35 have a chance to collaborate in the
7:37 upcoming months and the rest of the year
7:39 with 10 and as we the board we are going
7:41 to dive into
7:43 conducting that gap analysis and then
7:45 assessment for the equity at the city
7:48 and so i'm excited that we are going to
7:50 collaborate with her in the upcoming
7:51 months as well on that
7:53 but for tonight board members i'm going
7:56 to invite here shannon to
7:58 conduct the training with you and have a
8:00 discussion really our hope for tonight
8:03 is um you've been uh discussing this
8:06 item with stephanie johnson our hr
8:09 director
8:10 for the last few months but our hope
8:12 tonight is that as you dive deeper um
8:15 into talking about an option for a
8:17 framework um i'm hoping that at the end
8:20 of the meeting you're gonna feel
8:22 comfortable
8:23 making a recommendation for a pilot
8:26 project for city council to consider
8:29 again as i think you made
8:30 recommendations already before
8:33 at this point we know that
8:35 perhaps there might not be a perfect
8:37 example or a perfect option
8:41 but i think the city is really really
8:43 eager to start somewhere start using the
8:46 tool
8:47 look into what's working and what's not
8:49 working by testing it out
8:52 and then perhaps they can come back with
8:54 a report and we can just improve that um
8:57 i guess what i'm trying to say is that
8:59 our recommendations humble staff is for
9:02 us not to get caught up in perfection
9:05 but really just try something because
9:07 each department it's eager to really
9:10 apply an equity lens to their work
9:13 but they just need some direction in the
9:14 framework from us
9:16 so is that a good start um before i hand
9:19 it to you and i start sharing my screen
9:21 for the presentation yes
9:23 okay thank you so much and welcome
9:25 shannon it's just such a pleasure to
9:27 work with you
9:28 thank you
9:29 i'll say uh just to continue with
9:32 monica's introduction
9:34 i am a washington state-based business i
9:37 have a team uh globally of 13.
9:40 locally uh the city of isquad is my
9:43 fifth city
9:44 i work with uh kirkland
9:47 redmond uh bothell kenmore uh and and as
9:50 well as issaquah
9:53 yeah uh uh part of the project that we
9:56 do is that we'll be doing and i've done
9:58 with other cities uh in addition to
10:00 creating equity policy
10:02 but uh for the city of issaquah it is to
10:04 do uh an organizational equity
10:07 assessment to figure out what it is that
10:08 we're trying to solve for and and part
10:11 of that is to look at
10:14 what the city is doing
10:16 and and uh based on an international
10:18 best standard of equity
10:20 and inclusion best practices to really
10:23 figure out uh not only what are we
10:25 trying to solve for but what should that
10:27 solution be
10:29 what does the road forward look like and
10:31 people think that diversity equity
10:33 inclusion belonging and social justice
10:36 is about the warm and fuzzies they often
10:39 think that it's about
10:41 uh changing the the trajectory or
10:43 narrative of how someone feels and how
10:46 someone feels is important but but i
10:48 think most important is to be able to
10:51 have tangible actionable results that
10:54 are measurable
10:56 to be able to identify where inequity
10:58 exists
10:59 and use both qualitative and
11:02 quantitative data to figure out what an
11:05 end goal is and then have a specific set
11:09 of things or actions that you do to
11:11 accomplish those goals
11:13 now an equity board uh is an incredibly
11:16 important collaborative partner in that
11:18 effort
11:19 but an equity board also can serve as
11:22 what i like to say oftentimes in an
11:25 organization
11:28 you function in the way that uh for some
11:31 people at the federal level they've said
11:32 that the the uh congressional black
11:35 caucus does
11:36 you become then the conscience of the
11:39 organization you hold the mirror up you
11:42 hold them accountable and you demand
11:44 that they live up to the promises that
11:46 they've met uh to those folks who are
11:48 marginalized for those folks who
11:50 experience disparate treatment or or
11:53 even worse disparate outcomes and so
11:57 having a tool like uh this framework
12:00 that we're going to be using with some
12:02 case studies
12:03 allows for
12:05 leaders within an organization or
12:07 decision makers or influencers
12:10 to be able to hold up the mirror to
12:12 themselves as individuals and as a
12:15 collective and collaborative body
12:17 to start reassessing um to do some
12:21 reflexive listening but also
12:24 to start being very intentional in how
12:27 you look at an
12:28 issue both from the ground level but
12:31 also from 30 000 feet
12:34 because it's important to make sure that
12:36 we're asking ourselves some critically
12:39 important questions
12:41 whose voices are around the table whose
12:43 voices are missing
12:45 are we considering all options are we
12:48 thinking about how history and sometimes
12:50 social cultural political and economic
12:53 challenges may separate a community and
12:56 are we being very conscious and very
12:58 intentional to make sure that
13:00 we do no harm and that we're working to
13:02 mitigate risk when we feel that we are
13:05 so this tool is really an opportunity
13:07 for us to have a a framework to have a
13:13 a a an opportunity for us to ask
13:16 ourselves some questions that i think
13:18 critically important as you adjudicate
13:20 issues as you think about uh issues
13:23 before making decisions
13:25 let's go then um
13:32 there we go to the agenda so i would i'd
13:36 love for us to just go quickly uh
13:38 through and i'd like like in just an
13:39 introduction in maybe 10 seconds for
13:42 everybody in the room so if you could
13:43 tell me who you are
13:45 and and what is it that brings you
13:48 because you could be doing a lot of
13:49 other stuff with your time but who are
13:51 you and what brings you to the equity
13:52 board so i'll i'll lead off and say my
13:55 name is chan and kelly ray and i am here
13:57 seated with the equity board tonight
14:00 because it is my goal to ensure that you
14:02 have all the tools and resources to make
14:05 very sound decisions for all of the
14:07 community
14:08 and represent the voices and center the
14:10 experiences per se perspectives
14:13 uh insights and goals and hopes and
14:16 dreams of all of the community in a way
14:18 that everyone is reflected uh in
14:20 considering government decision making
14:23 so that's me
14:24 and if you don't mind
14:26 let's uh
14:27 let's figure out who
14:29 all of you folks are
14:31 so um
14:32 we could we could start in alphabetical
14:34 order elisa who are you and and why are
14:36 you here
14:38 i feel like the equity board hi so um
14:41 very good i'm elisa and the reason that
14:45 i'm here is i feel that it's important
14:47 for us to commun to participate
14:51 um for people of color to participate on
14:54 local level as well as national level
14:56 and all levels in between to achieve the
14:59 equity that we're seeking
15:02 thank you
15:04 uh christina
15:10 hi everyone i'm my name is christina
15:12 wonsey i'm here because i want to feel
15:14 that i belong
15:16 and also because i want to push my
15:19 daughters and family to belong to this
15:22 community and to be sure that everyone
15:24 feel like that thank you
15:27 we'll just go
15:29 harry
15:34 um i'm the spanish interpreter um
15:38 nice to meet you you too thank you so
15:41 much
15:42 uh helen
15:46 hi um
15:48 i'm i'm really privileged and absolutely
15:51 honored to be part of this group
15:53 and here i'm an immigrant from uganda
15:57 i live in ifaqua and i'm i'm here to
16:00 invest myself in the community and be a
16:02 useful member of it and one of that is
16:04 by being part of this board to bring the
16:06 experiences that represent some of the
16:08 africans who have immigrated and live in
16:10 this community
16:12 and to share
16:13 where we come from so it is made known
16:16 just to be to learn as well from the
16:19 other people in the community where i
16:20 have not lived and the experiences that
16:22 i have not had to be a more useful
16:25 member of the community and for my
16:26 children i had two beautiful girls who
16:28 are living and growing up in here
16:31 and to extend that to them so that they
16:33 are better contributors of the society
16:35 they're gonna grow again
16:38 thank you so much
16:40 hillary
16:45 hi there i'm the other spanish
16:47 interpreter for christina and she
16:48 doesn't sound like she needs us because
16:50 her english is fabulous
16:53 good thank you so much
16:55 lorna
16:58 my name is lorna gilmore and i am a part
17:00 of this board because i want to work
17:03 towards ensuring that the city of
17:04 physical
17:05 and our community is more welcoming
17:08 as our community is growing more diverse
17:12 i just want to make sure that we're
17:14 having conversations
17:16 around race about culture about religion
17:19 to make sure that we are welcoming to
17:20 our different
17:22 incoming a
17:23 more diverse community
17:26 thank you so much
17:28 uh lucrecia
17:32 hello shannon um yes my name is lucrecia
17:36 and i joined the equity board because i
17:39 believe that i have responsibility
17:42 um to our community
17:44 and i want to exercise my social capital
17:48 to ensure that the
17:50 information and knowledge that i that i
17:53 hold and that i'm privileged to have
17:55 is used for the betterment of our
17:57 community
17:58 in particular i'm very interested in
18:01 ensuring that
18:02 any form of government in the city of
18:06 issaquah
18:07 takes into the account the voices of
18:09 people who are typically not included at
18:11 the table
18:12 and i apologize for my camera i came
18:14 home to a camera that is broken
18:16 and i just realized that a little bit
18:18 ago
18:20 thank you
18:21 thank you for crazy
18:24 megan
18:26 hi my name is megan and i joined the
18:29 equity board to
18:31 really start becoming an active member
18:33 in my community um and to really
18:36 engage minority voices into keep moving
18:39 forward uh to achieve progress and
18:41 eventually reach the end goal of true
18:44 equality
18:47 thank you so much
18:48 freddie
18:50 hi i'm
18:51 i'm preethi and i've lived in issaquah
18:53 for
18:55 about 10 years and in the area for about
18:57 25 years
18:59 and i am committed to uh creating a
19:03 leading change in the community where i
19:05 live and particularly around anti-racist
19:09 efforts i'm
19:11 very committed to breaking down
19:15 i guess the walls or you know whatever
19:17 around systemic racism to make issaquah
19:20 a better place
19:22 thank you
19:24 shay
19:26 hi tannen and thank you for doing this i
19:28 really appreciate it
19:30 um i actually joined the equity board um
19:33 for my children in my community uh i
19:36 moved here about three and a half years
19:38 ago and the community was not nearly as
19:41 diverse as it is now
19:43 um and
19:45 i noticed a lot of things that concerned
19:47 me with with relation to my kids and um
19:51 honestly
19:53 i want to contribute to a society and a
19:56 community that is welcoming to all kinds
19:59 of people
20:00 and that will allow my kids to be their
20:03 authentic selves
20:05 so that they can grow up knowing that
20:07 they're strong and they're beautiful and
20:08 they're loved and they're welcome
20:09 wherever they go
20:12 thank you so much
20:14 tony
20:16 hey shannon i'm glad you're doing this
20:19 um well the reason why i joined the
20:21 equity board i've been here in issaquah
20:22 for about seven years since 2015. uh
20:25 i've enjoyed it here um but i you know
20:29 since that time till now and continuing
20:31 on definitely issaquah needs uh um
20:34 equity you know uh and to be a welcoming
20:37 place to all uh when i moved here to
20:39 issaquah
20:40 i didn't really see any people of color
20:42 here at all besides myself when in 2015
20:45 so it's nice to see it actually
20:47 expanding and becoming more welcoming
20:50 but i think we definitely have more work
20:52 to do so um i'm here to try and make not
20:54 only city of issaquah the state of
20:56 washington and our
20:58 united states and the whole world just a
21:00 better place just a more welcoming place
21:02 for all
21:04 thank you so much
21:07 [Music]
21:12 i think that's
21:14 but you know what just for kicks and
21:16 giggles monica
21:20 just for giggles and kicks thank you so
21:23 much good evening uh everyone i'm the
21:25 staff liaison here um monica grilla
21:28 um i had the opportunity to work with
21:31 the human services commission um i'm
21:33 just so so honored that um i was just
21:36 assigned to be the staff liaison to the
21:38 equity board uh but i am a big believer
21:41 i worked in in human services for my
21:44 entire life from homelessness to um
21:48 substance use mental health i've seen
21:50 the inequities in our system throughout
21:52 my years from college to um to
21:56 all of my my jobs and so
21:58 um i am passionate about this i do want
22:01 to be part of a solution i do want to be
22:04 a supporter and elevate the voices of
22:07 our community members and make this
22:09 place not just
22:11 more inclusive but more just for all of
22:14 us so definitely um
22:16 thank you i'm honored to be here
22:19 thank you
22:20 i thought that you should chime in
22:22 because i know how much you do
22:25 uh the stuff behind the scenes with some
22:27 of the stuff even outside of your duties
22:29 as as assigned and so i want to make
22:32 sure that people hear from you as well
22:35 um can you share screen
22:37 yes i would love to
22:38 thanks
22:45 let's jump right ahead to uh the equity
22:47 framework screen
22:51 give me a moment
22:53 and participants if you look at the top
22:55 of your screen right above where the
22:56 picture is there should be a number that
22:58 says 100
23:00 with a plus to the right and minus to
23:02 the left if you want to blow the screen
23:04 up for yourself
23:05 all you have to do is click that plus
23:08 and then you can have a bigger view of
23:10 the slides that are being shown
23:13 slime
23:15 so what we what what we're going to be
23:17 doing today is jumping into the exercise
23:20 so we're going to be looking at a couple
23:22 of different
23:24 case studies
23:25 and then we're going to be applying the
23:27 tool which is really a self-assessment
23:29 tool it's a
23:31 tool that when used by other
23:33 organizations other decision-making
23:36 bodies um other court systems model
23:39 court systems uh having a tool like a
23:42 framework
23:43 will will pull you back and ground you
23:46 into some questions that i think are
23:49 important to ask whenever you have uh
23:52 questions before you whenever you have a
23:54 decision before you whenever you have a
23:57 challenge before you sometimes when we
23:59 get into the mode of decision maker uh
24:02 when we get into the mode of discussion
24:05 we sometimes forget to ask critically
24:08 important questions to pull us back into
24:11 you know those things that might be
24:13 around the corner that we don't see
24:15 or issues that could come up that we
24:17 forget to ask ourselves every time
24:20 that's right
24:22 so the first thing that we're going to
24:23 be looking at is
24:25 um really the model that the city
24:28 council uh did the training for and did
24:31 the case study for we're going to use
24:33 that one model which is really a
24:36 combination of two different styles that
24:38 we we've uh
24:40 morphed to create a hybrid of both that
24:42 i think represent really one of the best
24:44 practice
24:45 and then we're going to look at some
24:47 actual situations
24:49 read through those situations and then
24:50 apply the tool and have a robust
24:52 conversation around decision making
24:55 using those case studies
24:57 this requires for us to demonstrate a
25:00 racial equity lens
25:02 and um some of those questions that
25:04 we'll ask is specifically briefly
25:07 describe the proposed action
25:09 uh also who are the racial or ethnic
25:12 groups that are affected by this action
25:14 how will each group be affected what are
25:17 the racial disparities uh related to
25:19 this project and how will you track
25:22 progress towards reducing disparities
25:25 uh the other another question how does
25:27 the proposed action expand opportunity
25:30 and access for individuals to city
25:33 services how does the proposed project
25:36 promote racially inclusive collaboration
25:39 and civic engagement is there community
25:42 support for or opposition to the
25:44 proposal and why
25:47 how does the proposed action affect
25:50 systemic changes specifically does it
25:53 address institutional racism and what is
25:56 your method for tracking progress
25:58 how does the proposed project support
26:01 workforce equity and or contracting
26:04 equity and then finally are there any
26:07 unintended consequences
26:10 for certain populations
26:12 and or communities
26:14 are there strategies to mitigate any
26:17 negative impacts
26:19 and so this was the activity that was
26:21 done so slide
26:26 other questions as part of the postcard
26:30 model again self-reflective questionings
26:33 uh questions for community decision
26:35 making have i made any assumptions about
26:38 the cultural identity
26:40 genders abilities identities and or
26:43 background of those impacted by my
26:46 decision
26:47 what is my understanding of the group or
26:49 groups being impacted by my decision are
26:52 there unique cultural circumstances that
26:55 i should consider
26:56 how is my decision going to specifically
26:59 impact marginalized people have i
27:01 considered how to mitigate again harmful
27:04 results how has the council or the
27:06 equity boards pass
27:08 contact and involvement with
27:10 marginalized stakeholder communities
27:12 influence or how might it influence my
27:15 decision-making process and findings
27:18 what evidence has supported every
27:20 conclusion i've drawn and how have i
27:23 challenged unsupported assumptions hold
27:25 on so
27:27 given these questions
27:29 what you see is it's going to force you
27:32 to take a look at the issue in front of
27:34 you and start asking those tough
27:36 questions that people generally don't
27:38 ask in a municipal body they don't
27:41 generally ask well what data informs the
27:44 decision for why this thing comes to us
27:46 and if the city staff or city leaders
27:49 engage in a specific action how do we
27:52 know that it's successful are we going
27:54 to track and measure did we think about
27:57 how the decision we're going to make
27:58 today will impact folks that are
28:00 marginalized have we thought about
28:03 before we do this thing whether or not
28:05 religion will matter or income will
28:08 matter or people being housing insecure
28:11 will matter or people that are low
28:13 income or seniors or disabled
28:16 before we do this thing
28:18 have we really considered the impact on
28:22 folks whose numbers may be small
28:25 but the impact for that small group may
28:27 be outweighed so you hear people talk
28:30 about data and over representation and i
28:33 always tell folks never never look at a
28:36 population and say to yourself well do
28:39 we really have to consider that group
28:42 they really are such a small number in
28:44 our community do we really need to
28:47 consider to consider who those folks are
28:50 who
28:50 even if it impacted all of that group is
28:54 really only 20 or 30 or 70 people out of
28:57 tens of thousands
28:59 and and one of the reasons that i wanted
29:01 to know what brings you to the equity
29:03 board
29:04 and all of you said the same thing
29:06 you're here to make sure that we center
29:08 those voices and experiences that aren't
29:11 considered that you want to spread
29:13 equity and really lean into and and
29:16 build out and fully flush out the idea
29:19 that we can create a community that dr
29:22 king called the beloved community where
29:25 people feel that they belong that they
29:27 have space that that that they have they
29:30 have standing that they have ground that
29:33 they belong there fully and completely
29:36 they're not invited to the dance
29:38 they're one of the folks that are
29:40 hosting
29:41 and so that's what i want to make sure
29:42 that we center so let's go ahead
29:46 slide
29:48 and jump into
29:49 another set of those questions
29:53 how am i convinced
29:55 that reasonable efforts have been made
29:58 in an individual in an individualized
30:00 way to match the needs of the entire
30:03 community particularly marginalized
30:05 populations before we do that thing have
30:08 we thought about how some folks
30:12 may look at the current social
30:14 conditions and think i'm an immigrant in
30:16 this community my family may be uh when
30:20 it comes to representation my family may
30:23 not all be
30:24 be documented i may have a blend have
30:27 blended odd standing
30:29 in my own family
30:31 will families like that with blended
30:33 immigrant status show up will they
30:35 shrink away will they be afraid
30:37 will folks who are domestic violence
30:40 victims be able to fully lean into this
30:42 thing that we we may be considering have
30:44 we heard from desperately impacted
30:46 communities before we make any final
30:49 determinations or decisions and this
30:51 will matter because now as part of your
30:53 your recommendation you can ask have we
30:56 talked to all
30:57 all folks in the community what were
30:59 some of the things that you did to reach
31:01 out to all of those voices and what were
31:03 some of the things that they said i want
31:05 to make sure that we hear from those
31:07 voices even though sometimes they may be
31:09 few
31:10 before we make a decision that impacts
31:12 them i always say build nothing
31:15 for them without them
31:18 build nothing for them without them i
31:22 can't decide you know what i want a
31:24 lottery i'm gonna bless tony with a
31:27 house i know it'll be great on hdtv i
31:31 saw these tiny houses they were
31:34 incredible i'm gonna build him a
31:37 317 square foot home for his family
31:41 and tony may say that'll be great
31:44 that'll be my he shed in the back but
31:47 something i'm gonna move my whole family
31:49 into so sometimes you gotta talk to
31:52 people to understand or know before you
31:54 decide
31:57 it's my own personal experience my own
32:00 culture or my background preventing me
32:03 from understanding and taking the
32:06 cultural issues of marginalized
32:08 stakeholders into account
32:10 and deciding what issues exist for those
32:12 desperately impacted when you think
32:14 about school resource officers police
32:16 officers um and lots of decisions like
32:19 that people have very strong opinions or
32:21 feelings sometimes about those things
32:23 it's important to make sure we center
32:25 those experiences those insights and
32:27 voices
32:29 have we sacrificed the experience of
32:32 marginalized people for the comfort and
32:34 safety of those holding privilege the
32:37 majority population and stakeholders not
32:40 negatively impacted do we defer to the
32:42 group that always you know the squeaky
32:44 wheel that always gets the oil are we
32:47 doing the same thing deferring to the
32:49 squeaky wheel that always for hundreds
32:51 of years gets the oil
32:53 are we giving full
32:54 credibility to those who are sharing
32:57 concerns even though their numbers might
33:00 be small
33:01 or quiet in our community
33:03 every city i promise you has what they
33:06 call frequent flyers
33:08 people that people that call all the
33:10 time and and city and department folks
33:13 know who they are when they call
33:16 are we listening to all voices even
33:18 though some folks never call
33:21 we know that there are squeaky wheels
33:23 out there but we don't hear them squeak
33:25 they don't come into chambers they don't
33:26 come to the council they don't come to
33:28 departments
33:30 what are the racial equity impacts of a
33:33 particular decision
33:34 who will benefit or be burdened by the
33:37 particular decisions and are there
33:39 strategies to mitigate some of the
33:42 unintended consequences
33:44 so those are the questions
33:47 and i want for us now to jump into the
33:50 case study
33:51 i want for us to take a look at
33:55 an example from the city of newport
33:58 beach
33:59 and this is an actual uh some actual uh
34:03 policy legislation that's that's been
34:06 considered i want you to take a look at
34:08 it and start thinking now
34:11 and um monica does everyone have a copy
34:13 of the slider
34:15 yes
34:16 okay perfect
34:18 good so then you have the ability to to
34:20 take a look at the questions but i want
34:22 you to consider the questions
34:24 but now we're going to take some time
34:27 to read through on your own
34:30 and then we're going to engage in the
34:31 robust conversation around what's
34:34 missing who might be hurt by these who
34:37 might be helped most what are we you
34:39 know are we considering all voices whose
34:41 voices are missing so we'll start asking
34:43 some of those questions so go ahead and
34:45 take the next few minutes we'll read
34:47 through the document and then we'll
34:48 start our discussion so you can follow
34:51 along either on this on the powerpoint
34:54 or you can open your own copy and read
34:56 through on your own and then we'll jump
35:03 monica did we have this translated into
35:06 spanish yes
35:08 very good thank you
35:17 and it was posted on
35:20 friday
35:57 you
36:23 shannon for the discussion would you
36:24 like me to stop sharing my screen
36:30 no keep keep that up because i want
36:32 people to be able to refer back to it
36:34 okay
36:40 and so this first example is just that
36:42 page is everyone finished
36:47 okay good
36:50 this is for consideration
36:52 for public art and cultural the public
36:55 art and uh cultural facilities fund
36:58 so what are some of the things that
37:00 stand out does anything stand out do you
37:02 think that this this uh this policy is
37:05 is uh sound as it stands does it demand
37:09 questions do you have questions
37:11 what jumps out for you
37:13 shannon i'm gonna jump in with something
37:15 because i realize we didn't cover with
37:17 you the process uh for our board i'm not
37:20 sure if you're able to follow the chat
37:23 board members will will put in the chat
37:25 if they have a comment or question so
37:27 are you able to follow that and call
37:28 them
37:30 thank you board members thank you
37:39 i believe shay had a question
37:41 okay
37:48 um the first thing i wanted to ask about
37:50 was timing
37:53 and i'm not sure if that's something
37:54 that these kinds of frameworks actually
37:57 need to consider but um
37:59 i know that it's an import it's an
38:00 important factor for a lot of people um
38:03 how much time are we gonna have to
38:04 devote to trying to make this work
38:11 how much time to devoted to making the
38:13 framework work oh well not necessarily
38:15 the framework but a recommendation for a
38:17 specific thing
38:20 and
38:21 i i guess my question is more so
38:24 whether or not that's something that
38:25 kind of gets teased out through the
38:28 process or do we kind of set that
38:30 timeline um at the start
38:33 yeah i think that that will probably be
38:34 something that you said so the way that
38:37 it would work though is having this uh
38:40 framework as a tool simply means that
38:42 you will have a predetermined set of
38:45 questions that will that would demand
38:47 that you ask those deeper questions so
38:50 right now you have a piece of uh policy
38:53 in front of you that would dictate how
38:56 the city of newport beach would go about
38:58 the process of considering public arts
39:00 and cultural facilities for the fund
39:03 and
39:04 you know right away
39:07 you know does it consider uh cultural
39:09 difference when it talks about cultural
39:11 appropriateness you know what does that
39:13 mean exactly
39:14 who decides that
39:16 um is there a diverse body that
39:18 considers that um
39:20 when you think about modality
39:23 that how does that matter does someone
39:25 have to be formally trained and it's
39:28 been a particular genre of art doesn't
39:30 consider all genres is it is it visual
39:33 is is it you know
39:35 an aesthetic is it dance is it music
39:38 um how might different communities be
39:41 impacted so the tool is really the
39:43 questions that you would ask yourself
39:46 and one another
39:47 and then apply
39:50 to the policy in front of you
39:53 so if we think about those questions so
39:55 i'm going to throw some questions out
39:58 so that you can look at the policy or
40:00 this process before you
40:02 and then consider that
40:04 so my first question with regard to this
40:06 is what are the racial equity impacts
40:10 of a policy like this how do you think
40:13 black and brown folks might be impacted
40:15 by this
40:19 are you able to see that yep
40:30 thank you shannon yes so those are
40:32 precisely the questions that i would
40:34 start to ask
40:37 in particular i think i would ask for
40:39 example
40:41 what
40:42 how are they reaching out into the
40:43 community to ensure that
40:46 a wide variety of artists are made aware
40:50 that the city has this
40:53 intention to have artwork
40:55 that is inclusive in the community
40:58 i would also ask questions like
41:00 if we are trying to
41:03 to have
41:05 a variety of
41:06 artists
41:08 who is doing the judging of
41:10 whether the artwork is quote unquote
41:13 but enough to invest in right because i
41:16 mean that's kind of the
41:18 the the gist of this policy
41:21 and then also um
41:24 when we when we talk about value
41:29 it's interesting to me
41:30 some of the words that are chosen here
41:33 at the valley of the proposed facility
41:35 in the economic
41:37 cultural
41:38 or neighborhood revised civilization of
41:41 the city etc um
41:44 i would have a question around that i i
41:46 don't know that i have the words for it
41:48 right now i have like a 10 hour lap
41:50 sorry it's 10 and i just flew in from
41:53 from
41:54 far away so i may not be making a lot of
41:56 sense but those are the things that i
41:58 think i would ask and lastly i would
42:01 also ask for example
42:04 in some cultures or oral
42:07 art oral history is very important
42:10 and i would want to know
42:13 if we are taking that into consideration
42:16 etc
42:18 yeah very very good questions thank you
42:21 very good comment
42:25 yeah i think i had similar reflections i
42:29 feel like there's there's a lot of words
42:31 here in the criteria that
42:34 have underlying assumptions and it just
42:36 makes me wonder
42:38 how are they going to
42:41 implement these things are they going to
42:42 default to white normative standards of
42:46 art or are they going to really be open
42:48 to it like words like quality
42:50 experience skill accessibility
42:54 proper medium
42:57 cultural enrichment for whom um
43:01 particular neighborhoods it just there's
43:03 so much there to impact like how are
43:05 they going to make decisions with these
43:06 words
43:09 yeah
43:11 who will benefit
43:13 um or be burdened by
43:17 by this process
43:20 that's the question who will benefit
43:22 most
43:23 will anyone benefit more or less than
43:25 others will anyone be burdened
43:28 that's one of the the reflection
43:30 questions is anyone i'm monitoring the
43:32 chat
43:33 does anybody want to make a comment or
43:35 have a question
43:38 hi this is elisa
43:42 my comments were similar to what was
43:44 said before i picked on in particular um
43:48 item number three the experience
43:50 skill and ability of the artist to
43:52 produce the work of art and i think the
43:55 reason that once stood out for me is
43:58 that
43:58 various mediums of art so for example
44:02 street art murals
44:06 have not always been valued as art
44:10 and
44:11 have not always even though they may
44:13 have represented the community in which
44:15 they were produced and so
44:17 just back to our original point of
44:21 you know nothing for them without
44:23 including them so if the community isn't
44:26 being a part of determining
44:29 what experience actually is and
44:32 what is quality then
44:34 you know who is benefiting
44:37 from what's being produced
44:40 thank you for that elisa
44:46 anyone else
44:50 this is monica um i have another
44:52 technical question were you able to see
44:54 uh the comments from tony
44:57 or uh the only ones that i see are um
45:02 uh lucretia and pleity
45:04 okay with your permission i'm gonna stop
45:06 sharing for a moment because i saw um
45:08 there were some notes popping up on my
45:10 screen and i believe that tony might
45:12 have just sent them to me so i want to
45:14 make sure he had to leave early and i
45:16 want to make sure that he's
45:17 comments are reflected is that okay
45:20 yeah and make sure that when you have um
45:23 to the right in your box for the chat uh
45:26 the drop down will allow you to send to
45:28 individual people again or to all
45:30 panelists please make sure that you have
45:32 all panels clicked because then i can be
45:34 sure to see what you're typing otherwise
45:37 i won't see it yeah
45:39 thank you for that and this again as a
45:41 quick reminder
45:43 please don't put any substantial notes
45:45 in the comments so they can be reflected
45:47 on on the recording but again in this
45:49 tony's case he had to leave so she just
45:51 wanted to make sure that
45:53 he didn't have a chance to speak up so
45:55 that his comments are noted um and so
45:58 tony says my comment consideration for
46:00 the artists in the community where will
46:03 this be represented in the community for
46:05 all to have access and so forth
46:08 and then he apologizes he had to leave
46:11 early oh thank you all right
46:15 i'll go back to sharing the screen
46:18 yep
46:20 the next reflective question is are
46:23 there strategies to mitigate unintended
46:26 consequences
46:31 are there's do you see strategies in
46:33 there
46:34 to counteract
46:36 any negative impact so we've talked
46:38 about the skill set with number three of
46:40 the artist and people you know sometimes
46:43 in the art world uh you know part of the
46:46 the critical theory is you have to be as
46:49 gifted as the artist in order to judge
46:51 and be an arbiter of the artist
46:54 and you know i i was raised under this
46:57 idea that everybody has an opinion and
46:59 is entitled to one and art is for all
47:01 people and people will see it in
47:03 whatever way that they as individuals
47:05 interpret it and find value in it
47:08 and then also you know the the proper
47:11 medium or whether or not it holds value
47:13 or will bring value to the city and some
47:15 of you have talked about you know who
47:17 who are deciding that
47:19 what what constitutes value what does
47:21 value really mean in in a community
47:24 that's welcoming to everyone so given
47:27 that
47:28 are there strategies do you see
47:30 strategies to mitigate
47:33 unintended consequences where some
47:35 people may be discriminated against
47:37 inadvertently
47:38 is there a trap door to catch something
47:40 like that before it happens
47:43 is that a question that you have all
47:46 right uh shay
47:51 i would venture to look at this and say
47:53 no because i don't see anything that
47:56 addresses like the
48:01 i guess you would say environmental
48:02 impacts
48:03 that often are disproportionately
48:07 misguided when it comes to locations
48:11 some locations tend to have very strict
48:13 rules on like the amount of dust the
48:15 amount of
48:16 how much
48:18 timing on the construction and all of
48:20 that fun stuff
48:21 and um
48:23 one of the things that i i didn't see
48:25 here was something that would
48:27 kind of look towards making that a
48:30 factor
48:31 that could potentially impact people who
48:33 don't necessarily
48:35 come to the meetings to address these
48:37 kinds of things
48:39 thank you
48:41 lucretia
48:44 i passed since i've already spoken but
48:46 i'll speak again once it's the second go
48:48 around
48:49 okay
48:50 lorna
49:03 morning
49:07 all right i was talking about uh while i
49:09 was muted so i think in looking at this
49:13 one of the considerations and things
49:14 that i i would want maybe i'm just a bit
49:16 too concrete is
49:18 looking for specific information as to
49:20 what cultures
49:22 or what types of cultures like some more
49:24 parameters to help guide the process
49:28 and so you know more information on what
49:30 kind of cultures are we looking at
49:32 represented are we looking at native
49:34 cultures cultures that uh
49:36 represent the community what about as
49:38 new cultures come in also whose
49:41 historical
49:42 viewpoint are we looking at so that is a
49:44 huge
49:45 factor for me in um
49:48 learning about history
49:50 um and everyone talked about number
49:52 three also for me one of the things was
49:54 it was easily visible so right away all
49:57 public artworks are not going to be
49:59 addressing those people who might have
50:02 vision
50:04 ability considerations
50:07 i think i want to have more parameters
50:09 in place for this
50:11 for the criteria for what sent out
50:15 very good thank you especially your call
50:18 out on visibility because
50:21 if the expectation in an entire
50:24 community is that you want to have the
50:26 public arts there if someone is
50:29 vision impaired or hearing impaired or
50:31 somehow impaired that it's not
50:33 accessible to them
50:35 then this this resource uh this treasure
50:39 of the community is going to be lost on
50:40 lots of folks in the community
50:43 and so how do you make it accessible
50:45 that people feel like they belong in the
50:47 community they feel like these gifts and
50:50 treasures in the community are intended
50:52 for their benefit as well
50:54 and so how do you close a gap like that
50:57 thank you
50:59 that's great
51:00 um alisa
51:05 um i find this whole case study really
51:07 interesting just because
51:10 my daughter who's in college has been
51:12 working on a project for the last year
51:15 talking to public artists and talking to
51:18 them about
51:20 how how public art projects come to be
51:23 and especially through the lens of of
51:26 equity and marginalization and
51:30 one of the things that i would say i
51:31 gleaned from that
51:33 is the idea that
51:35 a lot of the artists have expressed that
51:38 often the people who are
51:40 in the position to
51:43 propose
51:44 pay for
51:46 decide
51:48 on what art is selected
51:51 have their own agenda and aren't
51:53 necessarily from or part of the
51:56 community or representing the community
51:59 and i would say to your question one of
52:01 the things that i think would would help
52:04 would be to
52:06 you know maybe have
52:08 in place just some type of rules around
52:12 who are the people who get to be the
52:14 decision makers
52:16 even proposing the project
52:18 there were situations where the
52:20 community were not happy that there was
52:22 a public art project being brought into
52:25 their community because they felt that
52:27 it actually made their community look um
52:30 unattractive
52:32 and
52:32 actually having the the people the
52:36 people who are in the community as the
52:39 decision makers on
52:41 everything about the project is there
52:43 going to be a project what's the subject
52:45 of the project going to be
52:48 you know all the things that are in this
52:50 this list
52:51 there needs to be decision makers from
52:53 the community
52:55 empowered
52:56 to make those decisions
52:59 you
53:00 and this is great thank you for that
53:03 because what i'm hearing you all
53:05 key up to do as an equity board now
53:08 is really ask the staff some tough
53:11 questions
53:12 around accessibility around
53:14 representation around uh uh
53:18 again building this this this uh
53:21 public asset uh where everyone uh ex
53:24 accesses it and can also be represented
53:27 but i'm also hearing
53:30 you know even early
53:32 the makings of recommendations around
53:36 even um you know an
53:38 art board
53:39 that represents the diversity of the
53:41 community so that you have lots of
53:44 different voices and lots of
53:46 perspectives making judgment
53:48 um and talking about what value means to
53:51 different communities like black
53:53 different black and brown communities
53:55 street artists indigenous native artists
53:57 african american artists women artists
53:59 in these different groups so i hear that
54:01 even starting to form in in your
54:03 questions and comments thank you for
54:05 that
54:06 uh lucrecia
54:09 thank you shannon um so
54:12 i find this study really interesting
54:14 simply because um
54:16 i grew up peripherally
54:19 uh engaging with newport beach uh for
54:21 those who don't know newport beach is a
54:24 very affluent
54:26 typically
54:27 affluent community
54:30 when i lived in the la area it's part of
54:33 orange county by the way but i lived in
54:35 the l.a area in newport beach
54:37 used to be
54:38 through the early 2000s
54:41 um very um
54:43 european-american
54:44 and so my comment comes from that
54:47 knowledge it could be that now the
54:49 demographics have changed i honestly
54:51 don't know and wasn't
54:52 didn't have the time to research what
54:54 those demographics are now but my
54:56 question um
55:00 around
55:03 the way that artists are sometimes
55:04 approached is come and entertain me in
55:08 the way that i'm comfortable receiving
55:11 your entertainment right
55:13 and so
55:14 i don't know quite how one would address
55:16 that
55:18 as an artist and or as someone who's not
55:20 part of the community but being invited
55:23 somehow contribute to this art work that
55:26 they're trying to bring into the city
55:29 how do you not objectify the people that
55:31 you're trying to kind of bring and
55:33 include into the community and i guess i
55:35 would have questions around that you
55:36 know like what is the purpose of this
55:38 artwork is it to educate is it to
55:40 to be representative of the community um
55:43 which would then kind of perpetuate
55:46 what already is
55:48 so i think those are the questions that
55:49 i would have in addition to what i said
55:51 earlier thank you
55:53 thank you
55:55 i'll give one more final question
55:58 uh have we heard from disparately
56:01 impacted communities before we make any
56:04 final determinations or decisions
56:07 when you look at this
56:10 how does that question
56:11 uh reflect for you when you hear that
56:14 have we heard
56:15 from disparately impacted
56:18 uh communities before we make a final
56:20 decision or uh determination do you look
56:23 at this and feel like they've talked to
56:25 those folks they've heard from those
56:27 voices and gotten those perspectives
56:30 what would your what would your
56:31 guesstimation be when you see this
56:36 and i'm monitoring the box make sure
56:39 that if you're typing that it's to all
56:41 panelists that we can see
56:44 any questions or comments does something
56:46 come up for you
56:49 shannon this is look at her speaking
56:51 again i just i can't help myself um
56:53 anybody please interrupt me but yes
56:55 that's exactly what where my questions
56:57 were coming from
56:59 the comment that i made just now which
57:01 is you know like are they taking into
57:02 consideration it it's obviously not 100
57:06 of the same people there are variances
57:08 within even the same culture and so
57:11 obviously for me that that is not
57:14 something that i feel like they've
57:15 reflected upon
57:19 yeah give me so uh lucrecia give me an
57:22 example
57:23 give me at least one example that when
57:25 you look at this
57:27 it it
57:28 it it makes you feel like it causes you
57:32 to believe that they've not talked to or
57:35 gotten feedback
57:37 or collaborated with a very diverse
57:40 community with with marginalizer just
57:42 really impacted folks
57:45 well it's just that it it's
57:47 missing there is nothing right i don't
57:50 feel like there's anything there that
57:51 says that they've actually even taken
57:53 input from the community with regards to
57:56 how they're even going to acquire this
57:57 art like who
57:59 i mean to me this is just
58:02 it's almost like legally
58:04 legal leads right like they're they just
58:06 have to have some sort of policy so they
58:08 put this together without much
58:11 consideration
58:12 that's my interpretation
58:15 even when you think about art as the old
58:18 canon
58:19 monet van gogh matisse
58:24 that's what comes to mind for me
58:29 i think building off of those previous
58:31 comments
58:32 the
58:33 absence of any mention of diversity of
58:37 equity of community in in these
58:40 considerations is just a red flag that
58:44 they're not thinking about it
58:46 and
58:47 they may not care about it you know they
58:49 don't lean on any kind of pre-existing
58:52 documents or you know equity values or
58:55 guiding principles anywhere in that and
58:58 that's just
58:59 glaring to me
59:02 yeah uh shay
59:06 yes also to add to that i see a lot
59:08 about the aesthetics and the cost and
59:11 very little about impact and that's what
59:14 really kind of
59:16 grew a monkey wrench and what i was
59:18 seeing
59:19 i was like it's a lot of the same stuff
59:21 that you normally see but nothing
59:24 related to
59:25 the the people that are gonna have to
59:27 look at this on a regular basis
59:37 i thought it was funny that they called
59:38 out vandalism and theft
59:41 so clearly and took time to call that
59:43 part out but they didn't put better
59:45 parameters for you know
59:47 what kind of experience what kind of art
59:50 what cultures whose viewpoint what
59:52 community members are coming into it but
59:54 yet
59:55 vandalism and theft were called out
59:58 yeah
1:00:00 diversity and inclusion
1:00:04 but vandalism and theft
1:00:06 exactly it's so weird
1:00:10 all right let's go to the next exercise
1:00:12 then monica next slide
1:00:14 it would be
1:00:16 for caterpillar so take a few minutes
1:00:18 folks let's read over that and we're
1:00:21 gonna apply that same lens
1:00:24 to this example
1:00:26 and while you're doing that and i'm
1:00:28 gonna do a brief time check to let you
1:00:30 know that we have about 30 more minutes
1:00:32 uh left for this agenda item
1:00:35 not sure if that helps you or not but
1:00:39 i'm keeping a close eye
1:00:41 thank you
1:00:42 you're great
1:00:45 and this is such a great conversation
1:03:04 america can you switch switch to the
1:03:06 next slide
1:03:58 and if you don't mind when you're
1:03:59 finished just type the word done
1:04:02 in the comment box
1:04:29 for those of you who are done while the
1:04:31 others complete their reading
1:04:33 go ahead and take a look at some of
1:04:35 those questions those are
1:04:36 self-reflection questions
1:04:39 and for this for this um
1:04:42 for this process for this initiative
1:04:45 start thinking about
1:04:48 how you might advise a leadership team
1:04:50 a group of directors or managers on
1:04:53 the strengths of what you see
1:04:55 and maybe what's missing
1:05:36 i think we've got everyone that's done
1:05:44 let's go ahead then
1:05:46 and jump into our
1:05:48 discussion so go ahead make sure that
1:05:51 you're clicking for all panelists if you
1:05:53 have a comment or a question
1:05:56 go ahead and
1:05:58 type that into the box and we'll get
1:05:59 started
1:06:10 i'll start with a question
1:06:14 and let you all think about that
1:06:16 question as you respond
1:06:24 are we giving full credibility to those
1:06:27 who are sharing concerns even though
1:06:29 their numbers might be small or quiet
1:06:33 so when you look at this
1:06:37 out of 30 vice presidents seven are
1:06:40 women
1:06:41 and if one or two of those women or all
1:06:44 seven express a concern
1:06:48 that number is small out of 30.
1:06:51 that comes up sometimes i think as a
1:06:53 question well i know it does in the
1:06:55 workforce
1:06:57 so given
1:06:58 that is there do you see a mechanism so
1:07:04 that the folks who self-identify as
1:07:06 women then
1:07:07 are able to
1:07:09 have access to senior leaders
1:07:12 do they have access to the c-suite so
1:07:15 that if there are challenges that they
1:07:17 see across the workforce particularly as
1:07:19 it impacts women
1:07:22 do you see a mechanism for them to raise
1:07:24 that concern
1:07:34 and this is a this is a global program
1:07:36 especially for employee resource groups
1:07:39 when it comes to role models and
1:07:41 creating future opportunity
1:07:43 does it appear that
1:07:45 there's something
1:07:47 built within this process within this
1:07:49 initiative whether it's the inclusion
1:07:52 survey employee resource groups role
1:07:55 modeling
1:07:58 flexible work
1:08:01 does anything come up for you
1:08:05 all right shea question
1:08:08 yes um i almost wonder how
1:08:11 they determine
1:08:14 who gets into these programs
1:08:16 and additionally
1:08:20 these ergs and resources that people
1:08:24 have access to are communicated out
1:08:26 so that the entire workforce
1:08:28 can learn and grow or utilize some of
1:08:32 these resources and then lastly um
1:08:36 i i always have a concern about
1:08:38 retention when it comes to
1:08:40 careers um if people if say for example
1:08:44 those those seven women leave that
1:08:46 c-suite position
1:08:48 are they replacing them with another
1:08:49 seven women or are they replacing them
1:08:51 with the first person that applies
1:08:55 or are they seeking to
1:08:58 look at a diverse pool versus
1:09:01 just putting the next person that wants
1:09:03 to come into the position
1:09:04 yeah because that
1:09:06 could easily drop down to three
1:09:09 and that happens a lot because they
1:09:12 don't think of succession planning
1:09:13 they're not building their bench
1:09:14 strength and then the other thing that
1:09:16 comes up and i'm so glad that you keyed
1:09:18 in shay on the role models because when
1:09:20 you look at the level so
1:09:22 you won't have someone that's on the
1:09:24 line that's an individual contributor
1:09:27 that's going to be modeling and
1:09:29 mentoring with somebody that's a vice
1:09:31 president
1:09:33 so what does that look like
1:09:35 i mean this is an organization even
1:09:37 though they have 120 000 employees
1:09:40 my question is where what departments or
1:09:42 teams are those women on
1:09:44 and who has access to leadership and
1:09:47 development because role model is a
1:09:49 leadership part of leadership
1:09:51 development
1:09:52 and so if does that mean that you
1:09:54 already have to be a leader
1:09:56 or they have to identify you as a
1:09:59 potential future leader how do you grow
1:10:02 opportunity for people who may be more
1:10:04 entry level which is where most of those
1:10:06 those women are likely i just work with
1:10:08 a very large multi-billion dollar
1:10:10 construction firm and their women are
1:10:13 not always in those professional
1:10:14 technical roles
1:10:18 uh alisa
1:10:24 um i appreciated the fact that they were
1:10:28 leveraging employee resource groups
1:10:30 since
1:10:33 basically anybody can join the employee
1:10:35 resource group and so
1:10:39 it you know has the opportunity to be
1:10:42 representative i'm sure people join it i
1:10:45 also appreciated the fact that they talk
1:10:47 about doing a survey so
1:10:49 they're measuring their their results
1:10:52 and trying to measure and then refine
1:10:57 as they um
1:10:59 as they go
1:11:02 great call out because it's in the
1:11:05 annual inclusion survey that the whole
1:11:08 staff is asked that question
1:11:11 and then my question is
1:11:13 does that survey allow for them to do a
1:11:16 disaggregative data
1:11:18 to break women's responses out and to
1:11:21 look at women across the organization
1:11:23 even at different levels and
1:11:27 remember there's intersectionality
1:11:30 how are women who are part of the
1:11:31 majority uh
1:11:33 population how are their responses
1:11:35 different than than women of color
1:11:42 uh shay another question
1:11:44 okay yes because um
1:11:47 this one is a tough one even for my
1:11:48 company a lot of times it kind of comes
1:11:51 down to to whether or
1:11:52 not um
1:11:55 they can
1:11:56 and i'm sorry i'm not sure exactly how
1:12:00 make this comment
1:12:01 but essentially um
1:12:04 it it also kind of comes down to
1:12:09 what timing
1:12:10 they decide to do those surveys
1:12:13 for example are they providing those
1:12:15 surveys when everybody gets the raise
1:12:17 for the year or are they providing those
1:12:19 surveys at the end of the year or at the
1:12:22 beginning of the year or when you first
1:12:24 become
1:12:25 an employee or are they waiting three
1:12:27 months in when you've had some time to
1:12:30 actually learn your role
1:12:32 i always find those surveys hard to
1:12:35 manage in those respects
1:12:37 and and i'm curious as to whether or not
1:12:40 they they pick the timing
1:12:42 in an effective way that doesn't always
1:12:44 pick the timing when people are happiest
1:12:46 people are happy when they're getting
1:12:47 more money they're not so happy uh you
1:12:50 know in that fourth quarter when they're
1:12:52 stressed out and their work life is a
1:12:53 little tougher and they're trying to
1:12:55 balance out a little more easily so
1:12:58 are they really getting true answers
1:13:00 from people
1:13:10 i think um one of the things that i
1:13:12 would encourage um caterpillar to
1:13:14 include in in this um
1:13:17 in this uh policy that they have
1:13:20 is how are they reaching out into the
1:13:23 world to
1:13:25 get more women in general
1:13:27 into the pipeline right because if
1:13:30 they're what they have identified is
1:13:31 that they're trying to have more women
1:13:34 um in leadership roles how are they
1:13:37 growing that pipeline right because if
1:13:39 you're just looking
1:13:40 back into you know the current employees
1:13:44 that's great because you need to kind of
1:13:47 you know grow them from within
1:13:49 but also
1:13:50 what are they doing in regards to
1:13:53 bringing
1:13:54 more people in right to make it more um
1:13:58 representative uh and gender uh balance
1:14:02 and then in and then
1:14:04 i don't know if
1:14:06 how they came to the decision that their
1:14:09 main focus is to diversify through women
1:14:12 it could be that they do have an
1:14:14 ethnically
1:14:15 uh diverse
1:14:17 population again i don't know their
1:14:19 particulars
1:14:21 but that is something that i would ask
1:14:23 you know if if i had input into their
1:14:26 culture i would be asking you know why
1:14:28 are we focusing on women
1:14:31 and are there other
1:14:34 groups that need to also be included and
1:14:36 represented in this policy um
1:14:40 it i also think it's important to point
1:14:42 out that
1:14:43 that it is great to see that their
1:14:45 policy is very female um
1:14:49 friendly
1:14:52 my last question would be
1:14:54 okay so we're we're working on this
1:14:58 what next right because it can't this
1:15:00 can't be the full
1:15:02 the full uh focus in my opinion thank
1:15:06 thank you
1:15:08 kelly
1:15:13 um i also am
1:15:15 happy that they have an inclusion survey
1:15:18 and that if they're collecting data
1:15:20 that's very powerful i would love to see
1:15:23 or wonder if they thought about having
1:15:26 um the next level of you know moving it
1:15:29 from the individual talking to their
1:15:31 manager
1:15:32 on what action they took to documenting
1:15:35 that and bringing it to the leadership
1:15:37 to see trends and opportunities and
1:15:40 things that they've learned from those
1:15:42 discussions
1:15:44 so that it's a rotating it's a it's a
1:15:46 wheel of learning for everybody
1:15:50 very good thank you
1:15:52 and i probably follow that up kelly and
1:15:55 if they're going to publish a dashboard
1:15:58 are they going to share that data so
1:16:00 that there's some transparency and
1:16:01 accountability
1:16:04 what actions specifically they'll take
1:16:08 based on what they've learned
1:16:12 i would want to know when they're going
1:16:13 to come back and report on the impact
1:16:16 of those efforts
1:16:20 and then finally are they going to do
1:16:23 it's an annual inclusion survey they're
1:16:25 going to publish that information so we
1:16:27 can look at year over year success
1:16:34 elisa
1:16:37 here one last comment um i appreciated
1:16:40 the role models section because while
1:16:42 they do point out that they only have
1:16:45 seven um of the 30 as vice presidents
1:16:50 they also talk about
1:16:52 the fact that um they're doing the
1:16:56 lead project that they're doing in order
1:17:00 help those provide female role models so
1:17:03 that female employees can become
1:17:06 um can advance and can and can move up
1:17:09 um so i think that's a positive but to
1:17:12 your point right the the proof is in in
1:17:15 the results and so certainly
1:17:18 i would expect that they're going to
1:17:20 publish you know
1:17:22 this is how our how our diversity has
1:17:25 changed this is the results of that
1:17:26 survey and these are the numbers now
1:17:28 they used to be seven
1:17:30 now there are this many
1:17:32 um at some point in the future
1:17:34 yeah elisa how many of those seven women
1:17:37 that are vps are women of color
1:17:40 well and and that's another good point
1:17:42 right they don't they this our case
1:17:44 study doesn't give us the details of
1:17:47 what they've been reporting they talk
1:17:49 about how they they certainly have the
1:17:53 from their diversity studies etc but
1:17:56 they don't but obviously that our case
1:17:58 study doesn't say their what their what
1:17:59 level of detail they're sharing but that
1:18:01 will bring an important level of detail
1:18:03 to see
1:18:04 especially that they have 120 000 people
1:18:09 across the range of products and
1:18:10 services around the world
1:18:13 the uk is ten thousand
1:18:15 but there's a hundred and ten thousand
1:18:17 that we don't know and are those seven
1:18:19 localized in just the uk or are they
1:18:23 you know because they're talking about
1:18:24 globally that there are 30 vps
1:18:29 but where are those seven women
1:18:32 helen
1:18:38 sorry yes i was going to um talk about
1:18:41 the the the number and
1:18:44 like what what what the the seven
1:18:46 represents and what what their um
1:18:50 their level of influence really is in in
1:18:53 the bigger picture and whether that
1:18:54 really
1:18:56 for those who are looking to be mentored
1:18:58 if if
1:19:01 that that that resonates with them and
1:19:04 what are their areas of work anyway i
1:19:06 believe that
1:19:07 it's not just mentoring and how are you
1:19:09 managing work-life balance it's in it's
1:19:12 in careers and a whole lot of other
1:19:13 things so
1:19:15 um i think looking a little more deeply
1:19:19 how how what what's the quality of these
1:19:22 and are they aligning and matching them
1:19:24 to those who need that that that support
1:19:26 and is it is it
1:19:29 are those seven spread out enough to be
1:19:32 sufficient that's what i'm saying and
1:19:33 their quality and what their areas are
1:19:35 that are that will speak to the people
1:19:37 that are needing that mentorship and
1:19:40 being relevant really not just to take
1:19:42 the books that these people who are
1:19:44 going to mentor and in what area and is
1:19:46 it needed so yeah
1:19:48 thank you for that
1:19:50 lorna
1:19:55 for whatever reason seen the word female
1:19:57 so many times did not
1:20:00 it did not make me feel
1:20:02 like they were referring to um
1:20:05 people in the lgbtq community
1:20:07 i somehow made the assumption this was
1:20:09 about cisgender female
1:20:12 and so i was just
1:20:14 it made me feel a little bit
1:20:15 uncomfortable
1:20:16 at how many times they called out email
1:20:19 and then especially as a starter talked
1:20:22 about
1:20:23 child care and you know all those things
1:20:26 and so i was like so i think the
1:20:28 assumption to me it felt like the
1:20:29 assumption was
1:20:31 that the female was going to be
1:20:33 a petrol female
1:20:35 um and also in reading this i don't know
1:20:38 who the target audience is but the
1:20:41 reading level is definitely a very
1:20:43 uh highly educated person so i don't
1:20:47 know what kind of jobs that this is all
1:20:49 in leadership roles
1:20:51 and maybe that that's what it is because
1:20:53 it's all about vice presidents and so
1:20:54 forth so i wasn't sure if this is just
1:20:57 recruitment for corporate type jobs
1:21:02 and this is i'll tell you this is
1:21:04 supposed to be for women across
1:21:06 their entire global workforce
1:21:08 at every level
1:21:13 i don't know how accessible this is
1:21:17 thank you
1:21:20 christina
1:21:22 yeah this
1:21:24 it sounds amazing but i just thinking
1:21:27 for this big company's management his
1:21:30 management
1:21:32 management
1:21:34 uh to
1:21:36 control and
1:21:38 and to
1:21:39 bring involving people on diversity
1:21:41 right because they want diversity but
1:21:44 what are the activities and extracted
1:21:46 strategies that they are using for uh
1:21:51 to put people together and
1:21:54 people working together uh nicely and
1:21:58 yeah feeling comfortable
1:22:00 so i just wondering about this because i
1:22:03 think this is our big uh problem in this
1:22:06 community
1:22:08 yeah thank you for it
1:22:10 yeah thank you
1:22:11 and the other christina the other thing
1:22:13 that comes up for me is
1:22:18 it seems that a lot of these things are
1:22:23 require for you to
1:22:26 mostly be first shift
1:22:29 if you work second shift if you work
1:22:31 third shift or all of this is all of the
1:22:34 mentoring is all of these programs all
1:22:36 these opportunities if you're a third
1:22:39 shift person
1:22:41 where are all these other people and
1:22:43 where is the the richness of these
1:22:45 programs or is it just for people that
1:22:48 are first shift
1:22:51 and the people who oftentimes work on
1:22:54 the line work at factories work in
1:22:56 productions
1:22:58 you know
1:22:59 office jobs people are eight till five
1:23:03 um administrative finance are eight to
1:23:06 five but if your desire is to grow up
1:23:10 through the company to move up
1:23:12 and you're on a shift that's not that
1:23:15 day shift how do you have access to
1:23:18 those opportunities to be able to do
1:23:20 something other than
1:23:22 the things that are probably lower wage
1:23:24 and lower level in terms of leadership
1:23:27 roles
1:23:28 on those shifts
1:23:30 so that also makes it tough
1:23:36 uh let's see
1:23:38 alisa
1:23:43 yeah so
1:23:44 i'm questioning myself on something
1:23:46 which is that
1:23:47 we said there were seven women out of
1:23:50 the 30 vice presidents and
1:23:54 i think implied
1:23:56 in the
1:23:57 in our comments is that
1:23:59 that should be a 50 50 split
1:24:03 but then i have to wonder well
1:24:07 you know is there is there any cultural
1:24:09 bias in there that where we have where
1:24:13 maybe in our culture yes 50 of women
1:24:16 want to be in those roles right or or
1:24:19 that's a
1:24:20 a good balance to be
1:24:22 but if i were in another culture
1:24:25 am i necessarily the person who wants to
1:24:27 be in those roles like that
1:24:29 i don't know if i'm explaining that
1:24:30 right but are we assuming that that's 50
1:24:33 that women want to be in 50 of those
1:24:35 roles
1:24:39 and even if they don't want to in
1:24:42 particular regions are the opportunities
1:24:45 open for people to relocate that do
1:24:53 uh we'll go to lucrezia and then uh
1:24:55 christina again then we'll um do our
1:24:58 wrap-up
1:25:00 yeah i think that i would like to wrap
1:25:02 up by saying that
1:25:06 when we look at these case studies i i i
1:25:08 start to apply the same sort of
1:25:10 questions to ourselves right
1:25:13 so for me
1:25:15 i want to take what i find
1:25:17 and what we have identified as positive
1:25:20 from this policy
1:25:23 you know kind of like you
1:25:25 table that for
1:25:27 for when we go to develop things and
1:25:29 then the comments that we've made that
1:25:31 have not worked out to remember those as
1:25:34 um proposing policy and or procedures
1:25:38 that we would like to see implemented
1:25:40 for ourselves
1:25:41 and i want to go back to the idea that
1:25:45 it it isn't just the people who are
1:25:47 already working 120 000 who are already
1:25:50 working for the seven women who have
1:25:52 been you know who have made it up uh to
1:25:54 represent you know a quarter of their
1:25:56 leadership team
1:25:58 where
1:25:59 where
1:26:00 are where is this company tapping into
1:26:02 to ensure that they are bringing more
1:26:04 women
1:26:05 into that pipeline through the pipeline
1:26:10 when is it appropriate to start to
1:26:12 question
1:26:13 is it just about a male female ratio
1:26:17 and or
1:26:18 is it also important to include other
1:26:20 voices that they haven't identified as
1:26:23 needing to be represented
1:26:30 let's see
1:26:33 christina
1:26:34 yes i'm just fine i want to say that i
1:26:38 want to
1:26:39 emphasize that it is important don't use
1:26:41 labels on the people because maybe today
1:26:44 they can be super but tomorrow i want to
1:26:46 be like oh they want to be like manager
1:26:48 obviously so yeah this is really
1:26:51 important
1:26:52 because maybe today i cannot speak
1:26:54 properly but i don't want to be here all
1:26:56 the time
1:26:59 i'm thinking about my kids you know when
1:27:01 you think oh they have some disabilities
1:27:04 but this can be changed and we are here
1:27:07 for help
1:27:11 thank you
1:27:17 so just to wrap up
1:27:19 the whole goal of having this tool and
1:27:22 the set of questions is really
1:27:25 so that all of you can proactively make
1:27:27 sure that you're injecting equity
1:27:30 into your deliberation into your
1:27:32 decision making
1:27:34 we want to make sure that you're
1:27:35 preventing continued harm to
1:27:37 marginalized communities
1:27:39 and making sure that equity and
1:27:41 diversity as values are seen in action
1:27:45 so it's not the thing that you talk
1:27:47 about passively it's the thing that you
1:27:49 do deliberately
1:27:51 when you're asking these kinds of
1:27:52 questions when you're raising concerns
1:27:56 or highlighting what's do what what you
1:27:58 think is a great job and then following
1:28:01 it up with how we do something even
1:28:02 better uh slide
1:28:05 finally
1:28:08 so when you did this exercise i want you
1:28:10 to think about
1:28:12 were there any items missing for you any
1:28:14 items that were not helpful or or
1:28:16 or um that were helpful or not helpful
1:28:20 any questions comments or thoughts that
1:28:22 you have
1:28:26 so i want you to take some time i know
1:28:27 work time
1:28:29 slide
1:28:33 what they want in terms of
1:28:35 recommendations they uh receive training
1:28:38 and discuss framework incorporate
1:28:41 feedback from equity board and then make
1:28:43 recommendations to city council to pilot
1:28:45 this model so
1:28:47 um so you've so you've had the activity
1:28:50 oh go ahead so you can find
1:28:54 so you've had the activity you've done
1:28:55 the exercise but what they like to do
1:28:58 next is present recommendations to the
1:29:00 city council uh train staff and pilot
1:29:03 framework and then return to board with
1:29:05 findings to refine the framework so um
1:29:08 the council uh the council has uh had
1:29:11 their own recommendations and their own
1:29:13 experience now you've had your own
1:29:15 experience and we're hoping to have some
1:29:18 recommendations do you find value in
1:29:20 having a series of questions as a tool
1:29:24 that will cause you to go back and to
1:29:26 reflect because the tool is that list of
1:29:29 questions the tool is you always having
1:29:32 that list of questions that are maybe on
1:29:33 a card or on the screen so that when
1:29:36 actual policy
1:29:38 programs or processes are put in front
1:29:41 of you you'll use those questions and
1:29:43 ask those tough questions
1:29:46 so that then um that becomes part of the
1:29:49 intentional injection of diversity
1:29:53 equity inclusion and justice
1:29:56 into your conversation so that it's not
1:29:58 something that you have sometimes in the
1:30:00 conversation but we want to make sure
1:30:02 that you have it as a tool to always
1:30:04 incorporate it into your conversations
1:30:11 um yeah so i just had you know i was
1:30:13 looking at the wrap-up slide and there's
1:30:15 this you know bullet around preventing
1:30:17 continued harm to marginalized
1:30:19 communities
1:30:21 and it's just it's making me think about
1:30:23 what what is the city's posture with
1:30:27 respect to equity
1:30:29 it seems like that's a pretty low bar in
1:30:31 terms of just uh preventing continued
1:30:37 is there
1:30:38 as part of this work do we see a shift
1:30:41 like do we want to go beyond that and
1:30:43 actually
1:30:47 change that to uh
1:30:51 you know and i saw this in some places
1:30:53 like uh
1:30:54 decrease the inequity so it's it that's
1:30:56 that's a higher bar do we how do we you
1:30:59 know bring
1:31:01 bring the marginalized groups up and to
1:31:04 me that preventing continued harm isn't
1:31:06 that far to bring things up so i i
1:31:09 i'm not in disagreement with any of
1:31:11 these questions and the way of thinking
1:31:12 in this tool i just you know i i think
1:31:14 we can do better than um preventing
1:31:17 continued harm
1:31:18 the goal isn't to prevent it is to
1:31:20 completely eliminate it
1:31:22 yes it's not to lower it but to
1:31:24 completely eliminate it
1:31:26 so to that point i don't i don't know if
1:31:28 there's a way to inject in these
1:31:29 questions than something that is more
1:31:32 proactively
1:31:34 getting us there
1:31:41 anyone else
1:31:42 i'm still monitoring the chat box for
1:31:44 questions or comments and we don't have
1:31:46 to have all of those answers today so
1:31:48 what you can do
1:31:49 is reflect because i know it's a lot
1:31:51 when you've when you do it and we've
1:31:53 done we spent 90 minutes together so i
1:31:56 want you to go back and take a look at
1:31:58 the case studies take a look at some
1:31:59 actual policies or decisions that you've
1:32:02 made or things you've considered as a
1:32:03 body in your short tenure
1:32:06 and look at those questions and and uh
1:32:09 let's determine whether or not there's
1:32:11 there are other questions or additional
1:32:12 questions we might consider uh go ahead
1:32:15 uh monica
1:32:17 thank you very much
1:32:18 yes i think i wanted to uh you know um
1:32:21 from great great conversation uh this
1:32:24 evening great questions that you all
1:32:25 brought up um just wanted to talk a
1:32:28 little bit about uh um
1:32:31 add to some of the things that shannon
1:32:32 said in terms of next step
1:32:34 um city council is and also provide a
1:32:38 few reminders as you may recall city
1:32:40 council brought up the the need for the
1:32:43 city to create an equity framework um
1:32:47 actually last year in july
1:32:49 and um so
1:32:51 they've been waiting for for this item
1:32:53 for about a year
1:32:55 the intent with creating an initial
1:32:58 equity framework is really to provide a
1:33:01 tool for city council for other boards
1:33:04 and commissions for other departments at
1:33:06 the city to start asking these questions
1:33:09 every time they have a project going on
1:33:12 whether that is creating a new street
1:33:14 light somewhere
1:33:17 whether that is
1:33:18 implementing a new hr policy or arts as
1:33:21 you have seen some examples
1:33:23 and so the hope tonight um
1:33:27 from you is that you're gonna bring
1:33:30 additional questions to
1:33:32 that framework that was discussed as you
1:33:34 may recall at the last meeting
1:33:38 we discussed this you have chosen the
1:33:40 portland model which
1:33:42 channel provided
1:33:44 in detail for you tonight
1:33:47 and so for example we had a great
1:33:49 question and um idea to implement from
1:33:52 pretty can we add something that's going
1:33:54 to proactively um
1:33:56 address not just um
1:33:59 preventing more harm but actually
1:34:02 creating justice right so that's great
1:34:04 do you have other
1:34:07 example questions examples questions
1:34:10 comments tonight and then the big
1:34:12 question for you is do you feel
1:34:14 comfortable
1:34:16 recommending to city council that they
1:34:19 pilot this portland model with the rest
1:34:22 of the city let's say for six months for
1:34:25 nine months and then departments get a
1:34:28 chance to try it out and they will come
1:34:31 back to you with a report let's say
1:34:33 after six or so months where then you
1:34:36 can take it again from here and make
1:34:37 additional recommendations for
1:34:38 improvement does that make sense on what
1:34:41 we are hoping for tonight
1:34:43 and and actually the what what you have
1:34:46 is a hybrid of both of those models
1:34:48 exactly thank you channel you already
1:34:50 did that work in in providing that
1:34:51 hybrid yes thank you for that
1:34:53 clarification and also with that there's
1:34:56 tentatively uh
1:34:57 council meeting scheduled for the month
1:35:00 of june to bring back the
1:35:02 recommendations from you tonight
1:35:07 so i guess what we'll ask you then is
1:35:10 given the exercise and the robust
1:35:12 conversation
1:35:14 um the now you've had a chance to to do
1:35:18 to use the model the council has had a
1:35:20 chance the
1:35:21 council was comfortable was comfortable
1:35:23 with it and proposed to then move it to
1:35:25 you they want to know if you are
1:35:26 comfortable with that at this point they
1:35:28 would like to pilot
1:35:30 this and have others use it as the
1:35:32 adopted
1:35:34 uh framework see how it works and then
1:35:36 make recommendations for tweaking it uh
1:35:39 at a future time but to at least put
1:35:41 something in flight now that we it's
1:35:44 been held for 12 almost 12 months
1:35:48 alisa
1:35:52 i just wanted to make a quick comment um
1:35:55 the last the question
1:35:58 that was asked was could we add
1:35:59 something to like we don't we don't just
1:36:01 want to
1:36:03 prevent
1:36:04 and i think one of the questions that's
1:36:06 there in the model
1:36:08 kind of addresses that because it says
1:36:10 how does the proposed action expand
1:36:12 opportunity and access for individuals
1:36:14 to city services so i i kind of take
1:36:17 that as the the question to address
1:36:19 we're not just trying to meet
1:36:23 and and i think it would be great for us
1:36:25 to to pilot this model
1:36:33 just one other quick comment um i was
1:36:35 reflecting on one of the questions
1:36:37 around the different you know like
1:36:38 marginalized groups and
1:36:41 i do wonder if it might be helpful as a
1:36:44 tool to
1:36:45 perhaps have a list of different groups
1:36:48 thinking about
1:36:50 religion culture gender race
1:36:54 intersectionality so so there's some
1:36:56 prompts there to really help uh kind of
1:36:58 uh walk people through uh those
1:37:01 different types of groups as they use
1:37:02 the tool
1:37:03 very good thank you kelly
1:37:09 is there i was really struck by the
1:37:12 comment of about a dashboard
1:37:14 is it because it
1:37:15 it just
1:37:17 everybody can learn from it so is there
1:37:19 a possibility to build a dashboard
1:37:23 for this i i get that it's unclear at
1:37:26 this point but to me
1:37:28 somehow having a feedback loop on it
1:37:31 could be very very useful
1:37:35 we could certainly do that um
1:37:38 at the midway point and then at the
1:37:40 conclusion of a pilot
1:37:42 yeah to have a survey
1:37:49 and data right they'll have at least a
1:37:51 little bit
1:37:54 very good thank you for that
1:37:55 recommendation
1:37:59 i'll pivot back to you uh monica thank
1:38:02 you very much shannon so um board
1:38:05 members if there are no other comments i
1:38:06 think then the question for you is we
1:38:09 can do a formal vote and see if we would
1:38:12 need a motion to make to to recommend um
1:38:16 to city council using as a pilot
1:38:20 uh the
1:38:22 the proposed tool with the added
1:38:25 comments that he just had tonight so we
1:38:28 will implement those comments so we
1:38:30 would need someone to make a motion for
1:38:32 that and then to second it and then we
1:38:35 can have a formal vote
1:38:42 promotion that we recommend um the
1:38:44 proposed uh
1:38:46 pr plan uh to the to the city in order
1:38:49 for them to adopt it and put out a pilot
1:38:52 for us
1:38:54 i can second the vote
1:38:56 thank you very much
1:39:00 and so with that um
1:39:03 please indicate if you are there um
1:39:06 those in agreements please
1:39:09 yay and also yes please not true
1:39:15 yes all of it
1:39:17 anyone who
1:39:21 please not just favor of these
1:39:23 recommendations
1:39:27 okay so i heard yes i think for everyone
1:39:30 anyone who
1:39:32 and i see also people putting in a chat
1:39:34 yes and i don't see anyone who said no
1:39:37 or anyone who's abstaining
1:39:41 okay so thank you very much board
1:39:42 members then we will recommend this to
1:39:44 city council with the added comments
1:39:47 from tonight
1:39:48 um as uh and we will recommend it as a
1:39:50 pilot and we will suggest that this to
1:39:53 be brought back
1:39:55 uh with data after it's been piloted for
1:39:57 at least six months
1:40:00 great thank you very much chan we so
1:40:03 appreciate your time with us tonight we
1:40:05 hope we'll you'll come back
1:40:07 i absolutely will be because we've got a
1:40:09 need that we've got a needs assessment
1:40:11 to collaborate on we have a neat
1:40:13 assessment to work on and we are very
1:40:14 excited and we look forward to that
1:40:17 um so with that shannon you are more
1:40:19 than welcome to stay with us for the
1:40:20 rest of the evening or if not i know
1:40:23 you're a very busy lady so we also will
1:40:25 not be offended if you need to leave but
1:40:28 thank you very much
1:40:30 thank you
1:40:32 and with that say i'm gonna pass it back
1:40:34 to you
1:40:35 so we can go through the rest of the
1:40:37 agenda thank you very much board members
1:40:39 this was a great conversation
1:40:42 thank you all and thank you monica thank
1:40:45 you shannon we appreciate it
1:40:48 um our next agenda item actually cons um
1:40:52 is for office officer selections
1:40:55 so monica will facilitate that for us so
1:40:58 i'll send it back to you
1:41:00 thank you very much jay so this is
1:41:03 monica again board members
1:41:05 um so i want to provide a little bit of
1:41:07 background information as you are still
1:41:09 a very new board
1:41:13 april and may are important dates for
1:41:16 city boards and commissions typically
1:41:18 terms for board members expire in april
1:41:22 and new terms begin in may and that
1:41:25 happens on an annual basis also on an
1:41:28 annual basis it's when we select shares
1:41:31 and vice chairs so officers for the
1:41:34 position
1:41:35 the equity board is a little bit
1:41:36 different because you started as a board
1:41:39 for less than a year you just started
1:41:41 for you know six months ago or so
1:41:44 and so for you we really your terms um
1:41:47 did not expire actually this year we did
1:41:49 have two um um positions that did expire
1:41:53 just because we created the board as a
1:41:57 stag with a stagnated role just to make
1:41:59 sure that not all positions expire at
1:42:02 the same time however both board members
1:42:04 expressed interest in continuing so they
1:42:06 will just continue with us
1:42:08 and so similarly because you've been
1:42:11 functioning for more than a year
1:42:14 typically in may so next year in may
1:42:16 also you will be selecting a chair and a
1:42:18 new chair in the new vice chair
1:42:20 this year we did check in with both our
1:42:23 chair and vice chair shea and tony they
1:42:25 both expressed interest in continuing to
1:42:28 serve as chair and vice chair and so
1:42:31 unless anyone here has any objections i
1:42:34 don't believe that we need to do a
1:42:35 formal selection i just want to call
1:42:38 that out that we are very grateful and
1:42:40 thankful to shay and tony for willing to
1:42:43 being willing to continue and then if if
1:42:46 you are okay with that then i would say
1:42:48 we don't need to do any voting process
1:42:51 just acknowledge that we will do this
1:42:53 next year in may
1:42:54 um so any objection to what i just said
1:42:58 or comments or questions
1:43:00 uh look crazy i see you have a comment
1:43:06 yes i would i would uh
1:43:09 first i want to say yes i'm very
1:43:11 grateful that shay and tony would like
1:43:13 to continue on in their roles
1:43:16 i would also like to remind us that um
1:43:19 one of the things that
1:43:22 i recall coming from the community is
1:43:26 that we would like to
1:43:28 shake things up a little bit and model
1:43:30 different ways of conducting these
1:43:32 meetings
1:43:33 and therefore the importance of also
1:43:36 sharing in the responsibility
1:43:39 the roles that typically are the
1:43:41 leadership roles chair and vice chair
1:43:44 meaning that i would really like to see
1:43:47 people who are
1:43:49 typically not
1:43:50 ones to raise their hands for these
1:43:53 decisions in the future so for next year
1:43:55 and i want to
1:43:57 hold us to
1:43:59 um a standard where we're growing the
1:44:02 people that we have in in this group
1:44:05 all of us
1:44:06 um because
1:44:08 i i just think that it's important to
1:44:10 model that for the rest of the community
1:44:12 and to help those of us
1:44:15 grow into those positions that's my only
1:44:17 concept
1:44:21 thank you very much for chris you have
1:44:23 very good comments and i do believe and
1:44:25 i hope as as this board continues to
1:44:28 work together and as you build trust
1:44:30 among uh
1:44:31 one another and
1:44:33 you learn more about the city how you're
1:44:35 going to start bringing those creative
1:44:37 ideas on what are different ways
1:44:40 to go about
1:44:41 leadership in in boards commissions city
1:44:44 and so forth and how can you support one
1:44:47 another so thank you for that
1:44:49 okay so if there are no other comments
1:44:51 for now then again i would like to oh
1:44:54 you have a comment
1:44:57 yes just one quick one um i just want to
1:45:00 remind people as much as i love being
1:45:02 the chair of this board it would not
1:45:05 hurt my feelings if someone else wanted
1:45:07 to do the job only because i don't want
1:45:10 to limit anyone from feeling like they
1:45:12 can't do it or they don't have the
1:45:14 opportunity to do it
1:45:16 um as monica i'm sure will tell you this
1:45:19 is work that i i do on a regular basis
1:45:22 and that i love
1:45:24 and because i love it i know that i'm
1:45:26 not always the best person to be out in
1:45:29 the front so
1:45:31 um with that in mind just keep in mind i
1:45:34 will still hold all of you in such high
1:45:36 regards if you decide that i am not the
1:45:39 perfect person for your chair or not
1:45:41 necessarily perfect but at least
1:45:43 the person that you should keep
1:45:50 thank you very much jay you are just so
1:45:52 humble and um awesome and amazing and
1:45:54 again i do invite others if they would
1:45:56 like to say any comments um but we are
1:45:59 very grateful i know that there's a lot
1:46:01 of work behind the scene and you've been
1:46:04 doing such an amazing job in in in
1:46:07 learning all the technicalities behind
1:46:09 this and and just um
1:46:12 cheering this board and yeah
1:46:16 i'm personally very very grateful and
1:46:19 you are so graciously doing it and yeah
1:46:23 thank you
1:46:28 okay so no other comments then again um
1:46:31 thank you very much once again for
1:46:33 continuing the leadership on this and
1:46:36 i look forward to seeing
1:46:38 how your first year as a board you've
1:46:40 been already doing so many amazing
1:46:42 things and i have no doubt that you will
1:46:44 continue
1:46:45 um so
1:46:47 thank you very much board members this
1:46:49 concludes then uh the the topic on
1:46:52 officer selections
1:46:58 and next back to you shay for the next
1:47:00 topic
1:47:05 thank you so much monica and um again we
1:47:08 appreciate everybody's contributions
1:47:10 tonight
1:47:12 um our next agenda item is the
1:47:15 committee report
1:47:18 and monica i'm sorry do we have anything
1:47:20 to go over tonight
1:47:22 hello but yes i would like to invite
1:47:24 lucrecia and christina
1:47:27 to summarize the committee
1:47:30 uh meeting if they would like to and i'm
1:47:32 happy to help as well
1:47:34 but just would love to provide that
1:47:36 opportunity
1:47:38 christina
1:47:40 lucrecia
1:47:42 helen and ray are part of the community
1:47:44 engagement
1:47:45 committee
1:47:48 helen was not able to join us at the
1:47:49 last meeting and that's why i'm inviting
1:47:51 only creative christy and christina at
1:47:53 this time
1:48:02 lakristian
1:48:06 um so we had our first meeting and um
1:48:10 what we discussed were
1:48:12 identifying organizations that we would
1:48:14 like to partner with
1:48:16 to learn about the equity and inclusion
1:48:19 policies that they have in place
1:48:22 we identified not only large businesses
1:48:24 and corporations that are
1:48:27 that make their home and or their
1:48:30 u.s home base here in issaquah like
1:48:32 costco
1:48:34 and rei et cetera but also small
1:48:37 family-owned and operated businesses um
1:48:40 to see and
1:48:42 encourage them to start having these
1:48:44 conversations
1:48:45 in their
1:48:46 places of employment
1:48:49 and then we also had a robust discussion
1:48:51 about
1:48:52 the importance of
1:48:54 making our committee known to the
1:48:57 community
1:48:58 at events like farmer's market library
1:49:01 schools etc
1:49:03 um and then
1:49:05 there was a discussion about
1:49:08 the importance of having cultural
1:49:10 conversations
1:49:11 and i believe that we have a pretty
1:49:13 robust list of potential discussions
1:49:17 that we could propose to have
1:49:20 for the community with the understanding
1:49:22 that we would not be
1:49:23 the ones solely responsible for
1:49:26 facilitating those meetings with the
1:49:27 community
1:49:28 but rather sharing that responsibility
1:49:31 with others
1:49:32 and um
1:49:34 and i believe that oh and then the other
1:49:36 thing is that
1:49:38 we have chosen as a committee to
1:49:41 to model um the idea that we could share
1:49:44 the responsibility of chair for that
1:49:46 committee
1:49:47 and ray will be the chair for the first
1:49:50 go round for the first two degree um
1:49:53 meetings and then we will decide who
1:49:57 will lead the following meetings and so
1:49:59 forth
1:50:00 uh in an effort to
1:50:02 help build our skills as a as a
1:50:05 committee
1:50:06 is there anything else that i missed
1:50:07 either christina or monica
1:50:16 all right did you say a big thing
1:50:18 oh yeah
1:50:20 dress them properly thank you
1:50:24 staying here thank you lucrecia great
1:50:27 and so board members the committee will
1:50:30 provide um
1:50:31 our hope is that the next month uh we'll
1:50:34 come to you with
1:50:35 recommendations from the committee on
1:50:38 perhaps a plan for the remainder of the
1:50:44 thank you
1:50:57 back to you shay
1:50:59 thank you
1:51:01 and my apologies for that delay there
1:51:05 and it looks like we still have about
1:51:07 seven minutes uh to go over the staff
1:51:10 report um monica i didn't see that she
1:51:12 had a whole lot but i would say let's
1:51:13 group the staff report and other
1:51:15 business or announcements into the same
1:51:18 yes thank you i did not have anything in
1:51:20 writing at the time of the agenda when
1:51:23 the agenda was publicized but um
1:51:26 since friday i do have a couple of
1:51:27 updates for you and the staff report
1:51:30 that i would like to make verbally um
1:51:32 one is actually um regarding um
1:51:36 recruitment at the city level and that
1:51:39 is for both staffing and boards and
1:51:42 commissions in particular
1:51:44 um currently as i just mentioned the
1:51:48 annual board and recruitment period just
1:51:50 ended for all the boards and commissions
1:51:52 uh we did see um
1:51:55 an increase in uh diversity um at least
1:51:58 folks experiencing interest however more
1:52:02 can be done and we are generally
1:52:04 interested in the city to have more
1:52:06 diversity on all boards and commissions
1:52:09 not just on the equity board or just on
1:52:10 the human services commission and so
1:52:13 currently the parks board is a
1:52:16 recruiting for a few board members and
1:52:19 so um just wanted to make that
1:52:20 announcement if you know anyone um
1:52:23 if you um are you know anyone who may be
1:52:26 interested in serving on the parks board
1:52:29 would love to
1:52:32 encourage um community members to apply
1:52:34 i will also follow up with an email i'm
1:52:36 waiting for uh some information that i
1:52:39 would like to follow up so we would love
1:52:40 to just expand that and if you don't
1:52:42 mind sharing with with anyone that you
1:52:44 might know
1:52:46 similarly the city has numerous
1:52:48 positions paid positions um open
1:52:52 and so again i will follow up with an
1:52:54 email but feel free please spread the
1:52:57 word if you know anyone um again we
1:53:00 would love to look for alternative ways
1:53:03 to recruit um
1:53:05 other than just the typical
1:53:08 mainstream ways so i would love your
1:53:11 input and that and other suggestions and
1:53:13 ideas as you might have
1:53:16 so that's one aspect of a staff report
1:53:18 um announcement the second one
1:53:23 and i'm not sure if we're gonna have
1:53:24 time for discussion tonight on this
1:53:27 but if there's interest from the board
1:53:29 we can have a more robust conversation
1:53:31 about this next month as well
1:53:34 the city is making preparations to
1:53:38 transition board and commission meetings
1:53:40 to in-person meetings
1:53:42 city council started meeting in person
1:53:45 in march
1:53:46 and um
1:53:49 the plan for the board and commissions
1:53:51 to start meeting in person is july
1:53:54 so if all goes planned
1:53:57 our board
1:53:58 will meet for the first time in person
1:54:02 that first wednesday in july which i
1:54:04 believe it is
1:54:07 july 6th
1:54:09 what that means for this board is that
1:54:12 um board members and staff will be at
1:54:15 this city in person
1:54:18 while we are going to provide a hybrid
1:54:20 model
1:54:22 public to join so public will have the
1:54:25 opportunity to join by phone video or in
1:54:28 person however as board members and
1:54:32 staff we will be in person
1:54:36 this may
1:54:37 create some transition and difficulties
1:54:40 for some board members
1:54:43 the city if you may remember the city
1:54:45 has a stipend program
1:54:47 that covers child care or transportation
1:54:51 for everyone and so we would love to
1:54:54 encourage board members to consider that
1:54:57 and of course we would also love to hear
1:55:01 more comments from board members i do
1:55:04 want to
1:55:06 express though
1:55:07 that i believe the city
1:55:10 has limited options with allowing hybrid
1:55:16 opportunities for board members
1:55:18 my understanding is that
1:55:21 the open meeting act is a state
1:55:24 legislation
1:55:26 the governor as you know
1:55:28 the government governor issued the
1:55:31 proclamation that allows us temporarily
1:55:34 to meet virtually due to the pandemic
1:55:37 and as that is being lifted
1:55:39 state law requires us to have in-person
1:55:42 meetings
1:55:44 so at least that is my understanding i
1:55:46 am very very open though to bring more
1:55:48 feedback back from what we hear from you
1:55:52 but that's that's where we are currently
1:55:55 so with that i'm gonna pause in case
1:55:56 there are any comments or questions
1:55:59 and we can provide more information in
1:56:01 the upcoming months for sure
1:56:05 and i think look crazy i had a question
1:56:07 do i see the chat correctly
1:56:10 and then shay monica um just quickly do
1:56:13 we have a recess during the summer at
1:56:15 all um
1:56:17 and if not
1:56:19 how does vacation play into summer
1:56:22 months
1:56:23 and the requirement to attend in person
1:56:27 and the question is also i understand
1:56:31 what you just explained but like
1:56:33 are there exceptions made like if you're
1:56:34 on vacation but would like to attend can
1:56:36 you attend at least as a panelist as a
1:56:39 community
1:56:40 member yes absolutely
1:56:43 yeah those are great questions and i'm
1:56:45 happy to uh
1:56:47 seek more guidance on that but yes at
1:56:49 least yeah you should be able at least
1:56:51 as an attendee to to join i don't see
1:56:53 why not if you're away and you're
1:56:55 interested in doing right other
1:56:57 otherwise the nice thing is that all of
1:56:59 the um meetings are recorded so we would
1:57:01 always if somebody needs to miss a
1:57:03 meeting we would recommend that you you
1:57:05 watch the video and then provide input
1:57:08 afterwards in terms of recess typically
1:57:11 um august and or december are months
1:57:15 when we can decide as a board if we want
1:57:17 to have a recess
1:57:19 um so the month of august is typically a
1:57:21 recess month as an option in december
1:57:24 but also it depends on the work load and
1:57:27 work plan and the interest of the board
1:57:31 and i see shay
1:57:33 alisa you also have comments
1:57:37 um yes i just had a quick comment just
1:57:39 to remind people that we also have the
1:57:41 stipend available um so if there are
1:57:46 some things that might be impeding your
1:57:47 ability to attend the in-person meetings
1:57:50 then there are some arrangements that
1:57:52 the city's made for us to make sure that
1:57:54 we can all get there and then of course
1:57:56 um i am always happy to volunteer myself
1:57:59 uh to help in that process so if anyone
1:58:02 needs help getting back and forth or if
1:58:04 we need to work through how to um
1:58:07 manage like child care or something like
1:58:09 that then we can totally work together
1:58:11 on that
1:58:14 thank you very much shay and in my
1:58:16 follow up email to all of you i will
1:58:18 also add the stipend information um how
1:58:21 to sign up to that
1:58:24 the refresher
1:58:26 and the lisa
1:58:29 whether it be because of in person or
1:58:32 some other reason and you also refresh
1:58:34 us even in the mail it doesn't have to
1:58:36 be tonight what the process is if there
1:58:38 are board members who are unable to
1:58:40 continue the result
1:58:43 whether it's because of this or any
1:58:44 other reason
1:58:45 right exactly so typically we would hear
1:58:48 for that is typically um you would just
1:58:50 send us an email you know typically the
1:58:52 staff liaison receives an email and
1:58:54 somebody you know you just let us know
1:58:55 it's pretty informal you don't have to
1:58:57 follow a formal process either email or
1:58:59 just contact us and yeah situations
1:59:01 sometimes do come up
1:59:03 meant the board how does the board
1:59:05 replace that person and how do they
1:59:07 continue with the work that they were
1:59:08 doing
1:59:09 yeah that's another great great question
1:59:11 alisa so typically it depends like in
1:59:13 this case let's say the equity board you
1:59:16 have nine members and three alternates
1:59:18 so you have a total of 12 members um so
1:59:21 if we have let's say one member um
1:59:25 um having to leave
1:59:27 during the year when it's not the
1:59:29 recruitment period so if they cannot
1:59:31 wait until next year which would be
1:59:33 april if somebody uh can cannot serve
1:59:36 until next april um then we can decide
1:59:40 um depending on what's on the work plan
1:59:42 for the board we can decide
1:59:44 to see if we will
1:59:46 replace that position during mid-year
1:59:49 recruitment or we are just going to wait
1:59:51 until april because perhaps if we have
1:59:53 enough alternates
1:59:54 to serve as regular members then then we
1:59:57 may consider that we are not going to do
1:59:59 a recruitment mid-year however let's say
2:00:01 if we have a larger number of people
2:00:03 leaving mid-year then we will just do a
2:00:05 recruitment
2:00:06 outside of the typical recruitment
2:00:08 period does that help a little bit
2:00:13 yep that answered both sides of the
2:00:14 question thanks monica thank you so much
2:00:17 alisa lorena
2:00:19 i was just wondering uh you'd mention
2:00:21 that we could talk about a potential
2:00:23 break
2:00:24 in august and or december
2:00:27 when would that conversation take place
2:00:30 um another great question so we can even
2:00:32 just do it now if it's as easy as um
2:00:36 you all know your calendar and there's a
2:00:38 preference for us to take a break in
2:00:40 august we can do it now we can also
2:00:41 check in next month
2:00:44 or even in july so there's no really a
2:00:46 big formal process it's really for us to
2:00:48 check in how are how are your vacations
2:00:51 board members how are you feeling do you
2:00:53 feel like we need to take a break
2:00:55 to recharge
2:00:56 and you know um we we say august and
2:00:59 december because typically those are
2:01:01 months where city council takes a brief
2:01:03 recess and it's kind of like nice to
2:01:05 align it
2:01:06 but if he was bored you come and say you
2:01:08 know what for all of us we all have
2:01:10 let's say vacations in july and we would
2:01:12 prefer the july we missed july then we
2:01:14 can also
2:01:16 adjust that way
2:01:19 so yeah with that i think feel free to
2:01:21 all of you think a little bit i know
2:01:23 there's a lot of information a lot of
2:01:24 changes all of a sudden
2:01:26 um so feel free to just think about
2:01:28 check in with your families and with
2:01:30 your calendars and i'd say we can check
2:01:32 back in next month does that
2:01:35 help yeah lorna please
2:01:37 i'm just gonna say if we were voting
2:01:39 because i've already sent you what my
2:01:42 absence days are
2:01:44 and right now it had already been
2:01:46 uh june and august um because in august
2:01:49 i was going to be out of the country but
2:01:51 in july i was planning on doing it
2:01:52 remotely
2:01:54 um because i was also going to be on
2:01:55 vacation that week since it's close to
2:01:57 4th of july so i was just going to let
2:01:59 the group know if you do vote in june i
2:02:02 am happy to take a break anytime
2:02:06 may june oh sorry june july or august
2:02:08 during the summer months
2:02:11 thank you
2:02:12 alisa
2:02:14 and maybe um it may be a good exercise
2:02:17 to get everyone to send you monica
2:02:20 verification schedules
2:02:22 if they have anything planned because
2:02:24 if we're in a situation where there's
2:02:26 not going to be able to be harmed in a
2:02:28 given month that would be a good month
2:02:30 probably to take a break
2:02:33 great great idea suggestion elisa yes
2:02:36 yeah i'll follow up when i follow up in
2:02:38 the email i'll probably ask for
2:02:40 everybody's plans for the summer as well
2:02:42 it sounds good
2:02:46 great conversations and comments
2:02:49 lucrecia you have one more
2:02:52 uh monika am i understanding that you're
2:02:54 going to check to see if we can attend
2:02:57 virtually if we're out of
2:02:59 reach for the summer months is that
2:03:01 correct
2:03:02 yes yes i will follow up with that
2:03:04 okay thank you and i don't know if we're
2:03:07 stating what our summer plans are but i
2:03:08 will be on the the month of july
2:03:12 thank you yes i'll follow up with the
2:03:15 email for everyone so we can have that
2:03:17 from everyone
2:03:19 okay great questions
2:03:21 oh helen
2:03:25 oh no i thought you're perhaps saying
2:03:27 something
2:03:28 i don't know okay
2:03:30 thank you um
2:03:32 speaking to my daughter she was asking
2:03:34 me for something oh no worries thank you
2:03:39 so i think that concludes board members
2:03:41 my staff report i appreciate we went a
2:03:44 little bit over a few minutes but i
2:03:46 appreciate the time in all
2:03:49 providing this information to you
2:03:52 i think that's it for tonight
2:03:54 all right well if
2:03:56 anyone does anyone have anything else
2:03:58 before we hop off
2:04:01 all righty
2:04:03 then i would say we can go ahead and
2:04:05 adjourn our next meeting is currently
2:04:07 scheduled for june 1st 2022 um so we'll
2:04:10 be right at the beginning of the month
2:04:12 and we're ending tonight's meeting at
2:04:13 806. thank you all for being here
2:04:16 lending your support your comments your
2:04:18 questions we appreciate all your hard
2:04:21 work here
2:04:23 thank you everyone have a good evening
2:04:25 thank you have a good night