Um, good evening. Welcome to the December 17th environmental board meeting. Thank you for rearranging your schedules to be able to come tonight. Appreciate it. As usual, if you guys have comments tonight, for those in the room to sign up, for those online, just uh raise your hands. I'll keep an eye on the on the screen there. Um I'll see you there. Stacy will be watching as well. To order, Stacy. >> Sure. Yeah. Go ahead and do roll call. Uh Tommy Anderson >> here. >> Nancy has an excused absence. Tommy has an excused absence. Proj has an excused absence. Karen Pan. >> Uh Mina June. Don Mc Williams >> here. >> Alex Lee Tickner >> here. >> And Nukem >> here. >> Keith Gonzalez >> here. >> John Smith >> here. >> And we have Corum. >> All right. Next up, approval of minutes for November 12th meeting. Any comments on previous minutes? We'll call them further. >> Um, public comments for tonight. Do we have anybody? >> We've received no written comments from board members or members of the public. Um, and we have no members of the public joining online or in the room. >> No public comments. Cool. Right in. Um, so first up is our 2025 board report and selfanalysis. Stacy's going to give us a quick rundown on the what's being submitted and then we're going to take a vote at the end. I don't need to be very formal though just hanging around the group there's any we want to talk about discussion so we have discussed the um the environmental board report a couple of times see if this will let me bring it up um there were no edits made to the report uh Since the last meeting, what we did decide to include um was the final two sections. And Alex, I think you should be able to see appendex A up there. Um but let me know if you're seeing a different document. Um what we did decide to include last meeting was a note around our annual work plan. Just a note that we were incorporating that into this report uh with items we expected to cover in 2026 and a note around gaps and concerns particularly around the need for additional city investment in environmental programming, wildlife and as well as continued interest and engagement with the school district. These were things that were requested to add into the 2020 core report and um at our last meeting the board supported continuing to include those in the 2025 report. Um but otherwise the report goes through the eight duties as outlined in city code summarizes our meeting schedule and agenda topics from this last year. um includes the two letters of recommendations that we submitted to um PPC and city council. Um it has the full results of the self analysis that you all participated in several pages. Um, I think that in particular this year will be really beneficial for the mayor elect to review since he'll be new to working with the board. And then we have our proposed work plan for 2026 which we'll be discussing in more detail in a few minutes. That is the report. Any questions or are there any um proposed revisions to that report? 26 word plan where we're going to try to include conversation that Nancy asked about streams versus digits. >> I was that request didn't formally come up at a board meeting. So I was thinking we could discuss that at our next topic and I can include that in what is submitted for more the formal review to the mayor and leadership or our next topic is on the work plan. So we can discuss that in more detail >> that um is there any changes that people would like to see to start the vote and say yeses all the way around the room. Alex, do you agree? All right, consensus. >> Okay, great. And then next steps on that is I'll be sending it to the mayor and Mary this week and then it will go into the council packet um for their January 5th meeting. >> So I was just looking up here no longer has access to the chat. >> She I think that's from the last meeting. It's confu. It um continues on from the last meeting because we have the same team. So, she was not able. She let me know this afternoon she couldn't join today. So, that was probably just when she signed off at the last meeting. Yeah. Thank you for looking at that. So, >> right into the 2026 work plan. and Stace is going to run through this with us and have a discussion. >> Okay, great. All right. Um, so this not next topic is just to look ahead at our next year's work plan. Um, since we do have a new mayor coming in, um, the mayor will be reviewing work plans from the boards and commission and providing feedback to ensure they align with, um, priorities for the mayor and council and what they would like the boards and commissions to be working on next year. Um, so this is a preliminary work plan and I'll be taking the feedback from the board tonight to incorporate into that work plan. Um so the three questions to you all are there proposed additional topics that um you would like to include? Are there topics you don't want to talk talk about and we should remove? And then sort of a side conversation that we wanted to have was are there specific topics proposed for next year that we should look at engaging other members of our community whether through an advisory group um or other format as proposed by the board. This is in some ways um of a followup to uh Dixiey's departure and wanting to find other opportunities for committee members that maybe can't commit to fully engaging in the board but still bring expertise and passion around the topics and we want to find ways to engage them. Um so thought we could at least start that conversation tonight as we're looking at the potential topics for the board to look on next year. So, I'll just provide a quick rundown of what staff have put together for next year. Um, a lot of it focuses on the IAAP update for the next several months. Um, potentially a couple special meetings as we work to bring you all sections of the IAAP. Um, as we're do starting tonight, um, we are also finishing our 2024 greenhouse gas inventory. So, we'll be sharing that with the board. Um, as we do each year, our public works team will be bringing the storm water plan to you. This is going to be uh done at the same time that it's open for public comment. So, it's opportunity for the board to weigh in and help shape that plan. We have a couple policies that we may be working on next year. Um, one is from funding that Sam, our solid waste analyst, received. She's going to be looking at a compostable serviceware requirement um for uh food serving businesses in our community. Um this is timeline is tentative depending on how that policy shapes up but we are thinking early conversation in the spring and then that would be coming back to the board um further on. Um other potential policies would include revisiting our sustainable building requirements in the city's land use code. Right now we have requirements around lead platinum for buildings of a above a certain size. we want to expand that um into other certification or other opportunities. So we're not just focused on lead but there are other avenues to achieve sustainable building uh certification within the city. Um, and then other items, uh, having check-ins with Dan on the urban forest management plan, um, natural systems checklist check-in, and then some of our administrative pieces here, such as board elections, um, and the report. There are likely to be many other topics that come out throughout the year, but these are the ones that we've, um, at least know are coming and have put into the calendar for now. Um, I was mentioning folks earlier too, we're hoping to do a couple other field trips this year. If you all are aware of a great opportunity for the board to go on a field trip or do a site visit, you can let us know and we'll work to get that scheduled. So, that's a snapshot of 26. Wanted to now see if there are additional items that folks want to ensure this board addresses next year. um or items that we're proposing that you all think we should remove from our >> Now the discussion that NY's requested of us to talk about streams versus ditches, how they're classified during construction. I don't know what we could do with that information if that would influence title 18 start the discussion um something I remember that James brought up quite a bit was discussing this last year that current I don't know incorporate that next year but I think it's worth considering There are specific topics around wildlife. I know this board has talked about kind of wildlife corridors in the past. If the IAP's looking at a dark sky initiative, there could be wildlife considerations. Is there anything in particular around wildlife or anything? I think you do a lot of >> Okay. And that could even start with how is the city what does the city do around wildlife in terms of education and outreach and um and then we could go from there and see. Okay. Uh maybe the most closest fit to that would be the urban forest management plan date. And I know having participated with the field trip here a few weeks ago, managing the forest for habitat for wildlife is things they look for. That's at least in part. Next to to garbage and wildlife. I think we talked that we could get encourage people somehow, you know, to follow those practices. >> Great. >> Um, yes. And then Sam's solid waste memo, which is attached, I can pull it up later. Um, she provided a summary of some of the data we've collected over the last year on that. So there could be a good follow-up conversation. I know we had talked about wanting to circle back and see if there were any kinds of policies or other education that would be needed. >> Recology is still working with you guys on, you know, barriers overturns, how they interact, the folks that put those cams out. >> Yeah, they tagged I think all it's in Sam's report. I think it was all homes on Squawk and in Oldtown. They take those um in the spring before fair season. Um and then we have Seclick Fix. The city's reporting system is set up for where folks can report if they see um cans overturned and when there's repeat offenders, those staff have been sending out letters um to those homes. Um, we've only had a few reports on Cclick Fix. Um, and I can peek at Sam's report. I think it was Savings or something. And I think four of those I probably submitted from going around. Um, so that's something I think we'd like to educate people that if you see hands overturn, please record them because we need that data to see where there's kind of repeat offenders or we can make sure that we're going out and doing that um, education. So that would be a great one to talk about and see where you can do some more outreach. The question about the storm water plan in March, I'm assuming part of that conversation is going to be in light of the storms and everything that's happened. I guess I was wondering if you already have the information on what that conversation's supposed to look like. Yeah, that's a good question. This and uh Don probably will know though this is the required annual update of the plan. Um this is called a national flute discharge elimination system permit. It's a permit that allows you to discharge storm water state and you're required to do an annual update to it due at the end of March. All cities are um this plan is basically coming to us to say here's the update we've done last year. >> Would you be interested in kind of more the resilient like hearing from our emergency manager? I think, you know, I don't know about the kind of nitty-gritty details of what that annual review is supposed to look like, but it could be a good opportunity for us to engage with the yeah the resilience of the plan. Why did they do that through potential? Are >> you looking for something more? So, kind of a summary of the recent storms, how the city reacted to it. >> Yeah, exactly. That need isn't already done by another committee. I think it's important to talk about um as an advising board, but yeah, that seems Maybe that could listening session for us with nothing else. >> I wonder if that could be um folded into the climate action plan. >> Yeah. >> Stacy, I'm thinking maybe sooner rather than later. >> Yeah. And I'm thinking maybe ahead of the storm water plan in case there's considerations that come out of that that would be appropriate for that plan. and as you all are looking at the proposed revisions to the IAP community resilient section. So yeah, I'll talk to Jared, our emergency manager, but there's no other board or commission that um besides the council committees that he regularly presents to >> topics you all would not want to see. one thing that it's more not something I don't want to see, but um it's kind of general too. I just uh it seems like with a lot of environmental regulations at the federal level falling away. Um I don't really have specifics like the Clean Water Act has things that might need to be met by the state now. And I guess I just uh I wonder if there's uh municipal associations that are trying to meet any needs that we can that we the city is engaging with that we can hear about weigh in on um just regulatory uh you know gas that need to be filled. Some of this might already fall under that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Think about who we'd be able to meet. I think we're sure is looking into reddrafting the waters of the state definition. That's what I was think >> standard reduction of the greenhouse gas there. So yeah, there's a lot. Let me think who might be. Anything else? And if other topics are coming up throughout the year, those can always be brought up during board meetings or send them to me and we can um bring them for discussion if the wants to put that on an agenda. And of course, I'll I'll I will circle back with our clerks and the mayor as well. Um, are there a topic and this doesn't necessarily have to be specifically related to the work plan that or if there's general thoughts about how we might go about engaging other members of the community that don't have the time to commit to being on the board but have the passion, interest, expertise, are there partic particular topics that we might engage them in or do you all have general ideas about how bring folks into the work of this board. So, you're talking about non board members. So, just bringing the community into What about having a gathering and inviting? >> Yeah. Doesn't have to be a potluck. Probably some fun picnic or something and invite the community >> summer picnic or something. >> Yeah. you do the sustainability >> event or some other >> the sustainability fair >> yeah that was great >> Alex >> yeah I think it'd be good to have business owners come in and and consult on the compostable service wear >> topic and be able to provide feedback on the realistic implementation of a program like that. >> Um, and similarly with the sustainable building requirements, maybe have some developers or someone come in with that kind of expertise to talk about how the impacts of of these policies would be implemented. >> The district have a business group that gets together on a regular basis. We have the economic vitality commission. Um >> owners can actually get together and talk. >> There's the chamber. >> Maybe start there. >> Yeah, absolutely. Um yeah, I think as we look at any policies moving forward in the IAP, yeah, we can engage with the chamber um depending on the topic. I think that's a great suggestion, Alex, too, to bring in some folks so that the board can hear directly from them as they provide their feedback on a draft policy. So, >> any ideas on how to get our agenda in front of the public? >> Right now, it's just put on the boards of commissions page. Who looks at that? How often? Maybe on the the hotter topics, the compostable serviceware, the building requirements. Is there something that we could push out to the basic website assoc right? It's >> a good idea. Yeah. Or through especially around some of those policies. I could see if our economic development team, they have pretty robust listeners to businesses. Maybe there's topics that could go out there. big enough topic going to city newsletter maybe often the city newsletter >> weekly every Friday. Yeah, but maybe like the IAP update. >> Yeah, I'll talk to our communications team and see. I don't know if I've necessarily seen that for other boards and commissions, but I think that's a great suggestion just to get more. >> Seems like we get the same faces over and over. Nice to see some show. Um I I know we have our youth members. Um I wonder if there's more we can do to try to engage students um in high school or or at the college level. >> I was going to say the youth report. So I can even say that now. >> Uh so it came to my attention that there's a new class that is called environmental engineering. And from what I know because apparently class it was called sustainable design. It's a very project oriented class and I know they do a lot of like community service and such. So I was thinking about talking to the teacher about actually like bringing them forward as some kind of way they could like present projects or attend the meeting as well just to I think I don't think it'll be a terrible idea to get more people although they're kind >> yeah the entire class is based off like you kind of refine projects over the and then eventually present them. >> Well, kind of in that vein. So, one of our topics for tonight is the solid waste report and we chatted beforehand here. So I I looked at that in a fair amount of detail the last two days and observed from that in the uh dashboard that over the last five years our our recycling level has been flat and we we were at we're at about 38% diversion from the waist stream has been about that over the last five years and we want to get to 70% five years from now. What are we going to do different to accomplish it? It's not going to happen by wishful thinking or just more of the same. It's going to take some bold steps to get there. And maybe we need bold steps uh with inspiration from young people, old age. Is that the kind of topic that is brought up in this environmental engineering context of um ways to raise the bar recycling >> the idea of the class is pretty much like you kind of they do a lot of like educating like this is how you can recycle materials more efficiently. So like how do you reuse materials to make certain other things? So it is kind of a topic they introduce a lot of they're very independent to kind of do whatever they want for the projects. So I think depending on the students they may be more interested in I haven't taken the class I have friends who have so I can talk to them more about that they do have classes run but I I don't currently have a teacher chemistry class so it >> does the school do any measurements metrics of recyclable rates recyclable materials versus garbage um that I know of. I do know we've been making an effort to make our school events more sustainable. I think if you remember Duncan Fischer, he talked about um he was the president last year and he was or he helped throw an event for school dance for all the materials for recyclable materials. We didn't use anything else like plastic music materials. So I think there's stuff like that that we do. I don't know if there's actual data of that. I don't really know what we plan on that as well. >> Well, I think the least that leading by example, we we had an event and here are the stats for this particular event. How many pounds of recyclable material was generated versus how many pounds actually went into the landfill. Okay, businesses uh step up to the plate here and and try to equal this. Our restaurants uh could do better in terms of waste generated food options and uh sounds like program school would be a good example to look at. I don't know. It's things like that that that are needed to really uh raise the bar, get people on board to do make systemic change that will get us incrementally towards that goal. If we don't make systemic change, we're not for sure. >> Does Sam or college have that program there? I made a note to check with her. I know when we have um we had a contractor that was working very closely with the school district and they were um tracking the amount of waste generated um and using some technology to see how full the cans were. So, let me follow up with Sam. I believe that there is, >> you know, might be interesting to get recall if you could do a tour for this class, you know. a tour >> recycling. >> It's very educational >> and that we're doing that with our Gibson interns and I'll share that with the board if if able to, but that's something that we can help arrange if that class is interested. >> I also may talk to the biomedical science teacher. I don't really know what that class entails. I don't really know who's taking that, but I'm sure it's better way to start off. Yes. So, um Karen, you brought up uh your class high school and you brought up colleges. So, this made makes me think that maybe if we went to BCC or some other colleges maybe. Are there any other colleges around here that people attend, right? Who's um one up in Samish? >> Oh, >> central. Is there central? >> It's a central extension campus. >> Well, maybe they also have classes or classes that we could connect with, reach out to, and see if there's some collaborations. Green River College just about there. And then Mommy, you said something. I should break it down maybe. >> Yeah. So, as far as the the businesses, um it seems like there's probably a lot of garbage that we could um the businesses produce that could get um sent in a different direction. So does um does Cleanscapes work with businesses so that they can easily you know recycle their styrofoam and different things that scapes? >> Yeah. Um I Sam was not able to make it tonight, but um that is um one of the priorities that they've had this year and going forward is working with commercial as well as continuing to work with multifamily on recycling and composting in particular. Um I believe we have pretty good um recycling. So she set a goal. We're at 90% of commercial businesses have recycling. She set a goal to get to 100% next year. Um compost is pretty low for commercial businesses, but she has a 80% goal um for next year. Um and then she talks a little bit about the work that they're doing with them. Um so that is a a major focus and we can look at the tonight we'll be looking at the revised actions in the IAP for um materials and resources and so if there's any way we strengthen those we could do that but nice >> yeah we were talking about this earlier um that it'd be nice if the businesses could have that sell things that have items that Redwell will pick up for instance like styrofoam, the plastic, we could just take it back to like Lowe's, >> Home Depot and all the different costs, the different places we collect, you know, and then maybe cleanes it out from there. >> And then One Green Planet, I don't know if you guys know about them, but they do um electronic they do all sorts of recycling, but electron they do a lot of electronics recycling for businesses. It's widely known that QFC has a receptacle for a plastic film, plastic bags to be recycled. >> That's something out. >> Yeah, absolutely. So, I just learned that tonight. >> At least they want to recycle. Yeah. >> Yeah. And Recology does do at least residential pickups, I know, for Styrofone and other hard to recycle items. I'm not I don't know whether that's also offered for multif family or commercial, but I can check with Sam on that and if that's something to recommend that could be negotiated in the future. >> Yeah, I have friends that have a business right next to Recology, but they can't recycle their stuff there because they're a business and they they live as snowy. >> Yeah. >> I can't recycle. >> You have to have a really Yeah. >> No. So that that kind of triggers me and that we we we pay money to recology to help us recycle and they come up with stupid rules about why we're not recycling. That has to change if we want to accomplish goals. >> Yes. >> Recycling more. >> I mean I went in there one day. >> I had some electronics to recycle. one of which was a CD player may you you older people CD uh that was you know for the household and another was a deck for cargo they accepted the household CD player they would not accept the deck for the car because that's automotive electronics and by go by we don't accept that what a ridiculous rule Adams so let's see if we can figure out a way to not help you recycle That is not right. Uh the styrofoam thing I'm not happy with either. Okay. Yes, they'll accept styrofoam. So, I attempted to use that once and I put it out there and I alerted them. I I I did something wrong. Sure. I didn't get the notice in on time or something, but they didn't pick up. So, I I threw it in the creek. I did. Shame on me. I put it in the waist stream the next day out of the frustration. But I should have harder. But the point is it should be as easy to recycle things as it is to not recycle and we're not done. So I know well I don't know what the right the best solution for recology is on the styrofoam thing. I think if there were more places that I regularly go to that accepted style, that would be a help. So, for example, QFC. All right, I bring my plastic bags to QFC. I can't bring my styrofoam. Well, maybe we should require them or at least encourage stores like that that we go to regularly to accept such things. Now I have brought styrofoam to the recology store village but I don't go there on a regular basis like infrequently um and that's a special trip to bring it there. I'm not going there for some other reason. It needs to be to some place that I go to every week with like a grocery store. And okay, maybe the city needs to provide an incentive for them to have a little more recycling presence in their store or maybe not an incentive requirement to make something like that happen. Uh so I don't know. I've been I've been pondering this over the last clean report kind of cleared me off from going down rabbit holes and and so some municipalities are more successful than others in this and one of the methods used by those that are more successful they mandate you know they mandate okay now with that they mandate recyclable food containers etc. So by that's one way we mandate that's what we need. I've often thought it would be great with places like Home Depot, Lowe's, Best Buy, you know they they start everything by they just had a bin where you could come back and just toss it in the bin and they work with recology. Yeah, they have bins for specific things, plastic bags, batteries, and compact fluorescent bulbs. So all right sele often bulkier bigger bin but it would be a small addition to think that's that's the wild yeah another approach is working what they've done with batteries and paint is working with the producers and it's on their responsibility then to see that those products are recycled. Um, and we have some language in the IAP around that. But I'm excited to dig into the IAP actions in a minute. Tom's fired up and has a lot of ideas. Yeah, maybe >> I really like the the topic that that u going to come up about reusable or plastic service wear. We should put some emphasis on that this year. >> Um maybe um think of ways that the city could promote um among the general public reduction of reduce consumption single plastics somehow you know we talk a lot about recycling difficulty there but we need to we can reduce the consump consumption through messaging through the school system through classes and through the sustainability fair we could have a table that just talks about um reducing consumption I'll take this. >> Great. Um, yeah, I heard some great suggestions for additions to the work plan, so I'll incorporate those in as, uh, requests from the board. And then, um, thank you for the conversation on other ways for engaging in the community. Some great suggestions there about around businesses, general engagement. I like the summer picnic idea. I know PCA does that. Could be nice one just to invite folks in in a more casual setting. And then the ideas around high school and college engagement on this. >> Well, that's you could potentially come up with >> that you could give businesses >> for doing well. >> Yeah. >> With reduction solid waste. >> Yes. and then giving them like a you know take care a grocery store a fast food restaurant >> love it give them give them like an award that they can hang up on their their business >> a champagne tour >> yeah used to be that it would be yearly by >> Yeah, >> there used to be an Envirro stars award they do in the county but >> yeah but something but it could be related to our policy. We've done that with the clean buildings program where we have kind of ambassador businesses property owners. Yeah. doing something like that to really highlight who's out in front >> so that other people can see it and u stimulates the conversation. >> Great. >> All right. Thank you for all the feedback on that. I will make some additions to the work plan and then follow up on the outreach opportunities. Okay. With that, we'll move on. So, Stacy's gonna update. She's asked that we keep our comments to ourselves until she finishes and she get a lot of me talking tonight. Okay. So, um, as we've talked about over the last few months, we are bringing you all sections of the IAP that are kind of ready for review. Um, and then we'll be revisiting some sections and then of course eventually bringing all the plan forward for comments. Um, tonight we wanted to talk through four questions with you all. Um, a renaming of the overarching action section. uh adding in a municipal operations target. This would be new and one of the few changes we'd be making to a target in the IAP. And then we were seeking initial feedback on the revised overarching actions and initial feedback on the revised material and consumption actions. Um, so I'll just walk through a little bit of an overview and then I do have slides that lay out every single action and the proposed revision. So I'll walk through those briefly and then we'll come back and revisit them. But want you to have kind of the whole snapshot before we move forward. >> Just one. >> Yeah. >> I look through this presentation and I was trying to figure out what you meant by OB and MC. A lot of times you in a lot of the presentations I've seen you use acronyms but you never tell us what they are. >> Yes, I will talk through that. Thank you. Yes. So here we are providing input on the overarching that is OB uh focus area um of the IAP and then input on the materials and consumption focus area of the IAP. So, as a reminder, um, and those that are new to the board, the IAP's broken up into six, uh, different focus areas, and these are two of those areas. Um, so here are the four questions. The renaming of one of the focus areas, feedback on the proposed target for municipal operations, and then feedback on the two focus areas overarching and materials and consumption. And there is some animation in there. Sorry about that. Um, so looking at the overarching actions focus area, we are proposing a little bit of a restructuring and renaming of this focus area. Within the IAAP, we have actions around city operations a little bit scattered. There are several that exist in the um current overarching focus area, but then there's a few scattered throughout other focus areas. So, what we would like to do is bring those all into the overarching actions focus area and rename it overarching and municipal operations. Um so, we'll come back and visit that in a moment. Um the other changes we're making to this section are uh proposing a target and then of course updating the actions. The target that we are looking for the overarching actions focus area um would be to add one around municipal greenhouse gas emissions reduction. So right now this focus area just has a communitywide emissions reduction goal or target. It does not have anything any target associated with our municipal operations. So, we are proposing to align our city operations with the um the communitywide uh greenhouse gas emissions target but on a faster scale. So, essentially we would the city would be a leader and be out front in terms of reducing our emissions. So right now we're proposing a 95% reduction compared to our 2022 baseline and net zero emissions by 2040. Um and then we are also proposing to develop some targets around our light duty fleet and how much we will have transitioned that fleet. um a target around how many of our buildings are 100% electric and then maintaining a current target that we have actually um well it's a little bit revised but a current target of having 100% renewable energy for municipal operations electric use. We have achieved this in our buildings and we're already we're working towards it with our water operations and our street lighting. Um right now the current target is just around our building. So we're proposing expanding that. Um and that is because of our we are we purchased Puget Sound Energy's green direct program which is 100% renewable and green powered. That's how we're achieving that. Um little bit of background on these targets. So this was based on research actually by one of our Gibson interns. Um he looked across other jurisdictions and what kinds of municipal targets they have. Um some cities have them. Belleview, Seattle, Shoreline. Um but they there's not a lot of municipal targets out there, but we felt that these would be in line with those cities that do have targets. Um most of the jurisdictions have compliance years for their targets between 2030 and 20 40. Um so that's why we were sticking within um kind of that 15-year timeline. Um based on where we are in our current greenhouse gas inventory, we are not um we didn't want to propose 100% achievement by 2030. We want something that's ambitious, but that we also think is achievable. Um, so we will be meeting with our fleet team and our facilities team to set those percentages that um, again we think are achievable um, but also are a bit of a stretch for the city that we're going to have to work. I think um, right now David and I discussed having a heavy medium or heavy duty fleet uh, target. We thought we just don't have the information enough information we felt like right now and things are changing so quickly with medium and heavy duty fleet that we didn't feel comfortable proposing anything like that for this IAP. So that's why you just see light duty fleet >> on number two. Is there a typo in there? Is it percent light duty fleet that EV? >> Oh that is EV. Thank you. Yeah. Yes. Um, so why why don't we sit on this and I'll I can move through the actions and then we'll I'll move through just the overarching focus area actions and then we can come back and look at this section before we get into materials and consumption. Um, so again this would be a brand new target in overarching. All right. And then we have been working to update the overarching focus area actions. Um, and this chart is the same chart that was in the memo, but tries to provide the proposed concept. We have some words smmithing to do. We didn't want to word smith tonight, but at least get a thumbs up that we're kind of on the right track or if we should be making revisions. Um, and then we mentioned kind of how that differs from the 2021 action. and then um uh included that the language of that action for reference. So I'll just walk through these briefly. There's two pages so I'm going to go through pretty quickly. Um our first one would be a modified action where that would look at public engagement strategies around outreach and education on climate action in the 2021 plan. This one was very specific to a particular program. It was around implementing the community climate challenge. That was the outreach and education tool. We want to broaden that. That allows us some flexibility on the different programs or tools that we use. Advocating for climate legislation. We're recommending retaining that participating in regional partnerships. Uh these are things like um King County Cities Climate Collaborative. Um other groups like that. We're recommending retaining that. Um the next one, engaging youth in climate action. We wanted to modify kind of generalize that one a little bit. The language from 2021 uh read support climate and sustainability education in schools. We were a little nervous that that sounded like the city's trying to develop curriculum. We don't have control over that. um that's not our role, but we do work with youth on a lot of different programming and we're continuing to do that. Um and so wanted an action that more encompassed our um interest in engagement of youth and with schooled as we're invited in um track and report on IAP implementation progress. We didn't have anything around regular reporting. So, we're proposing that as a new action. Uh implementing workforce development strategies. There was nothing in the plan about climate or green jobs workforce. That's something we're interested in pursuing in partnership with economic development. Securing sustainable funding for climate action. That's also proposed as a new um action. promoting successes and lessons learned. Um, that's where, you know, we share out a lot at a regional and even national level the work that we're doing. That's a proposed new action. Um, Casey's Scap, that's the King County strategic climate action plan that was just passed by King County Council. Um, that's an action that exists there. We thought might be nice to duplicate at the local level. Another new action is programming for reducing localized pollutants. This one needs to be word smith a bit, but we thought this would um open up opportunities to be working on things if directed by council such as electric landscaping incentives or we're looking out possibly 10 years. Is that an ordinance that the environmental board and council want us to pursue in the future? Um, is there interest in closing streets to motorized traffic during certain times of the year? We kind we just want to allow that flexibility if we're looking at a longer term plan um or any kind of idling policies. And then the next one was um preparing the municipal city operation greenhouse gas inventory. That's just a slight modification because the current language um reads to prepare the first one. Um implementing internal sustainability policies. Uh this one is revised from a couple of policies that were proposed in the last IAP. Um this is really to now move forward those policies into implementation. um implementing strategies to reduce our city's footprint, uh slight modification, as well as the action around um our electric fleet. Um uh generating and storing renewable energy at city proper properties. Uh we just expanded that to make sure it encompass or that it read to encompass both buildings but also could be um ground mounted solar or solar car ports but beyond building those mounted on rooftops. Um strategies to reduce transportation emissions. This was just an expansion of the very specific language around bike share and carpool and enhancing staff ability to make sustainability-minded decisions. This relates to policies. Um, it's really about building that internal capacity and staff um, feeling empowered to make those decisions in their everyday work and kind of building that uh, across our entire city workforce. I think that's it. So, that's a lot. Those are all the overarching actions, but um, these were really intended as the ones that the city is doing with its own operations. But this section of the ICAP also encompass kind of the general actions that don't necessarily fit within another focus area like buildings or natural systems for example. So, this is a little bit longer than what we currently have in terms of the number of actions, but um it's what David and I feel like uh needs to move forward to take specific feedback, general feedback, and again um more think of these as concepts and not necessarily. >> So, we're gonna talk about this and then talk about the next section after. >> Yeah, why don't we start with this page and then we can And I'm happy to go back and I'll go back to the target too in a minute. >> Well, sorry it doesn't pertain to this page and sorry if you mentioned it, but um I guess could you explain a little bit more about the reasoning for u rather than having an overarching and a separate municipal operations? >> Yeah, that's a great question. Um, so we thought, um, we didn't necessarily want to add a new focus area to the plan. We felt like that was a pretty big change. If the board thinks that's cleaner, we can definitely do that. We could have an overarching, which is maybe more the general education. And then we could have a municipal operations focus area. I think we were there were a lot of municipal actions already included in this focus area. So, we thought it might just be easier to bring a few more in, but we could break that up if that's a full structure. Thanks. >> And I know you said that this block operations kind of lead the way in those overarching. So, I think it makes sense. Just wanted to make sure we had that. >> Yeah. Do you think would it be cleaner to split them or >> I don't feel strongly about it. I I I don't know. >> Okay. I think it makes sense uh you know categorically to have them separate but I also I know I get your lot for sure. >> Yeah, that's something we can look into. >> The strategies to reduce transportation emissions from city employees. I'm just wondering why does this focus just on the city employees? Well, I Okay. Is that because this is municipal operations? >> Exactly. >> Is there an overarching goal to reduce uh transportation issues overall? >> Yes. >> Yeah. So, there is another focus area we'll revisit in early 2026. It's that's our land use and transportation focus area. So this one is just focused really on overarching education outreach and city operations. >> Well, so I was uh I think an area that we need to do better on is multimodal transportation uh transportation corridors for multimodal devices, but that's not this. >> Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that we'll try and bring that one to you all in January. Awesome. Thanks. And come here. So, the second one is advocate for climate legislation. Um, I would like to either add to this one or create another one for um interacting with or commenting, making comments or signing on to letters to the UTC. Mhm. >> So the reason I'll just talk about the reasoning behind it. So the UTC oversees um PFC both gas and electric. So um so there are very there's often comments uh times where you can comment either um verbally sometimes they have um you don't even you don't have even have to go in in person anymore. They have it virtually So you can just join and um comment or which is especially powerful. Um the last time I did it, um they were super grateful for everybody who was there and just like encouraging us to continue to engage um because it helps them. um if they have us behind them, then they're more likely to be able to um implement the uh isn't that a policy or you know implement the rules that make it um easier for us to make reach our goals >> and that's important, right? So, um, they want us to go participate and it it's really huge like when the the city either writes a letter, signs on to a letter that's already written. Um, so a lot of times there's there's groups that have letters you can just sign on to. So, it makes but or you can just glean the information, you know, the talking points and um, but sometimes it's hard to do all the research. Um anyway, so engaging and it's been my experience that when I've asked if the city can do this, they don't only one time have they uh said, "Yeah, let's do it." Otherwise, it's like I think we have to have it in the plan to make the city feel empowered to be able to do it. So, um I would like to advocate for having working with the UTC and um I can even take it on to um stay a breast of you know when the common periods are and which are ones that would be important for us to the utility trade commission if folks aren't familiar utilities um transportation and Yeah, thank you. Um, that's a great suggestion that also makes me think we do comments to the state building code commission. Um, so maybe we modify it to climate legislation and regulatory bodies like that. So I think that's a great suggestion. Does the city have a government affairs type of person that monitors a lot of these groups? >> Um, not on staff. It's contracted. Um, she's primarily engaged during the legislative process, but kind of on call I think throughout the year engaged her in some ways outside of that process. So, um, but definitely not as, um, sometimes I look to Belleview or some of the cities that have a full-time government affairs and all their leader. King County has been really great at tracking that. >> That be the person who would make comment on our behalf at these. >> Um, she does the, um, folks that are involved in the legislative session do sometimes or at least are tracking enough to bring the mayor in or council member to make comment. Typically, if we're signing on to a letter to provide comments to UTC or other bodies, the mayor will do that and staff will vet it and provide a recommendation to leadership to sign. >> Nice. >> So, um I know we've been talking a little bit about messaging lately and I know that you're totally on top of this and behind it. I love what Connie's been saying about like making it, you know, easy for people like when we're talking to the public, make it easy using words that they don't have to look up. We don't have to look up. >> I shouldn't say they because I look words up all the time. >> So, um, and then, um, Julie Carr, who, um, spoke with Ann and David from People Action last night, sent me a, um, a really cool, um, podcast about messaging. And um I could go through all of it, but you know there's a lot of great um studies um that have come out recently. There's one coming out again in the end of the year how how to effectively talk to the public um non in a nonpartisan way um to motivate them to want to do things in regards to climate change. So then I was thinking, well, how can we talk, you know, how can we get this in there? So, and it does seem like it's overarching. So, I was thinking, well, maybe we have um hire a um a messaging person to help with messaging to the general public. >> Like what's in the what's in the IAP, we have to have it, you know, very specific, but with the general public, there's ways that we can do it. So, we can use the will be especially motivating. There's a lot of study behind it now and it seems to change a little bit so it's good to stay on top of the latest data. >> Yeah. No, that's great. Yeah. I'm thinking maybe the first one around public engagement strategies including something around kind of like best management or best messaging practices or whether that's bringing a firm or having staff not involved in our work review it or a focus group review it or Yeah, I think that's a great great suggestion. Yeah, it's great. Kind of jumping around a bit, but looking for kind of that initial feedback, any gaps, things to revise. >> If you want me to, I could go over what I gleaned from the podcast or I could just send it to >> I think I was I think Ann sent it to me, too. Ann to me. >> Yeah. Keith, uh, I saw that support the electrification was on here, too. And, um, I just recently heard Ford is, uh, I think stopping production of electrified F-150s, uh, and and it's because of those those incentives going away. So, I just want to make sure I'm sure y'all are responsive to it, but um if it's the difference between like hiring another employee or getting an electric truck, uh if the cost is going up that um we're looking alternatives that we need to like minimizing single occupancy trips or things like that. I know we aren't looking at words, but for the princess programs and like that section, what does that really mean? Like the change I been reading it for like a minute and I don't know >> what does it mean? >> Yeah. Yeah, that's a great question and I think we wanted to think of the language there, but um we do not yet have direction on to pursue this, but we've had a lot of community members ask about looking into electric landscaping ordinances that would um there be ban or incentives to get rid of like gas powered landscaping equipment. Um Kirkland has done this. they have kind of a sunset and a phase in period. Um I believe Seattle has. Um again, we don't have direction from council to pursue that, but there's been a lot of interest from community members. So there's that, but there we were thinking there could be additional programming um or different policies to pursue. So, we're trying to think of some general language that would encompass landscaping equipment, no idling zones, kind of just thinking about um gas powered equipment that's generating kind of air pollutants on a smaller scale is what we're here. >> Right back to what Dan was saying. >> Yes. Messaging. Yeah. >> Yep. So, yes, we'd want to play around with that. And there will be for each of these they'll have a description of what's meant >> screen on the actions or the >> Okay. Yeah, we can spend some time here too. Sorry. >> On the on number one there is 95% and net zero by 2040. Is that realistic? Have you guys done the math to see what that's going to cost? And can I afford that? >> Um, and can we afford it? Uh, we that is the target for the community by 2050. We felt like if we are looking at doing that communitywide, we want city to be ahead. Um, we are going to be going through a process with a consultant as we update this plan to see if our actions will actually put us on target for meeting our targets. So, I can't necessarily answer that yet. Um, we do think we think we're in good shape for our buildings. our light duty fleet is on a path although that may change now but um several things um one of our big our biggest challenge is actually staff commutes um I don't know if you remember from the last greenhouse gas inventory I think it was around 25% of our emissions and that will become a higher and higher percentage as our building emissions go down the pool is a huge challenge >> so we have a couple big hurdles to address, but we felt like we wanted an ambitious target if we're looking at a community target by 2050. It's a it's a good question. We'll be assessing over the next few months and how far >> consider I like fleet. I'm all on board with that when you come up with a good percentage, but just take into consideration that you have large power outages sometimes. >> Yes. >> And if you have a large power outage, you like usually it's down into account after about >> Yeah. >> And that's very >> Yep. And um >> Yep. I'll talk we have um a grant I'm gonna talk about a minute around that. But yeah, that's something um I think we've been discussing it in our community resilience section. It would probably move into this section is making sure there resilience infrastructure in place for leading buildings that may end up moving in here. >> I would discourage you from involving the medium or heavy duty at this time. Yeah, >> focus on the technology there. >> Alex, >> yeah, on this page I just it says it's compared to a 2022 baseline, but the IAP currently has it as a 20 or a 2007 baseline. Is there a reason for a change in the year? >> Yes, great question. Um I meant to explain that. Apologies for not doing that. Our first municipal greenhouse gas inventory was done in 2022. So that is that is our baseline for city operations. That was the first city operation greenhouse gas inventory we did where our community greenhouse gas inventories go back to 2007. >> Okay. Thank you. >> That folks understand that that makes sense folks. our ne our greenhouse gas inventory that we'll present to you in the new year. That's only the second city operation. >> Um on the engage youth election, I know you don't control the curriculum, but can the city >> meet with the uh instructors at the schools at the beginning of the year and say, "Here's here's what we're focusing on." Yeah. >> Or go to a class and get a presentation. >> Yep. Yeah. Absolutely. And we try and do that through sustainability ambassadors. He is trying to work on curriculum. And then um I was going to share later. We just held a big event at the high school. It's actually gonna I forgot to mention it to you in case you were there that day, but the sustainability design classes there ASB. there are about 90 students presenting on this work and getting their input and the mayor elect and a couple council members were there as well. So yeah, absolutely we can engage in the school. So um we can clarify some of that in the description. >> I know this might not be the right place to ask this but um has the city thought about do you guys give orders to employees do? And I actually think that it'd be great if we could get um CCA to give free cards out to everybody and then maybe if they're not using them, you know, if they use it, they get to keep it if they're not using it. >> That's great. I think based on our last discussion and input from the tab, we were looking at some language in the transportation actions. So, let's revisit that at our next meeting when we dig into those actions. Make sure that's captured some additional incentives or further reduced or >> any other comments on this topic. >> Um why don't I I'll just pop back real quick to the targets because I launched right into the actions without revisiting this. Um any other feedback on these proposals for um city operation targets? >> You say water street you say water you're talking >> water generation. Yeah. >> Great. Well, we'll bring these back to you. We're um going to be looking at the results of our 24 inventory and meeting with our um head of facilities and fleet in early January to look at what kind of percentages again that are ambitious yet we also think opportunity to achieve. Um and so we'll bring those numbers back to you all to meeting. Um, and then, uh, as you have downtime over the next few weeks and you feel like revisiting the memo or the board packet from tonight, um, if you have other, uh, thoughts around any of the proposed actions within overarching focus area, feel free to send those along and we will definitely be doing another touch with the board. Any um final thoughts on this focus area before we jump into materials and consumption? Okay, great. All right. So, in this section, um we are really just looking at revised actions. Um unfortunately, Sam couldn't be here, so I'm going to do my best to summarize some of the revisions. Um most of these are actually retained from what's currently in the materials and consumption focus area. Um conducting recycling and composting outreach and education. Um updating municipal solid waste contract. Uh so we looked that in because there's the potential uh that this may be a 10-year plan and so the next solid waste contract uh would come up for renewal or to put out for proposal. So, we left that in. Um, enforcing and expanding construction and demolition code requirements. That's currently in the plan. Um, there's not been a lot done there, but there's a lot planned for this next year. Mandating recycling and composting. Um, and this would be specifically looking at commercial and multifamily. That is in the plan. And Sam has some plans to do that work this year. um proposing a new action around household hazardous waste. Um proposing a revision to food waste, a language that was previously in there for food waste where it would be promote food donation and food waste prevention. Um previously the or the current language is partner with regional organizations to prevent food waste. We wanted to expand this to allow for more opportunities around food donation and food waste. Um similarly proposing a revision to an action around community reuse that would read as support community reuse, repair and upcycle just to broaden what was intended there. Um and then a new one was a single use plastics ban. Um and this would relate to the compostable which Sam currently has a grant to fund for policy exploration. that would be for the um uh restaurants or food businesses. So, so mostly retaining some slight revisions and then two new actions in this section. Um there were some suggestions earlier about um I know some of you had mentioned having some incentives or requirements for having other businesses collect recyclable materials. Something we could look in here if there's other requirements or specific things we'd want to call out to consider in a new solid waste contract or an amendment to a solid waste contract. things that we think our waist haulers should be doing. We could call those out. >> I think that would be a good time to try to get down to two section. >> Yeah. >> Did you want to elaborate on that again? So, it gets stuck in here section. >> I'm just trying to ponder how that how that could work. The city can ban single use plastic something the city require business to collect something that they don't generate styrofoam collection. ction point in Home Depot or QFC. Is that does the city have the authority? So, a legal kid. >> Yeah, that's a good question. I don't I don't know. I don't think we probably can't require those businesses to recycle them because they may not stream to do so. I don't know if we can require them to collect if then there was an agreement that the ecology or someone else picked them up. So >> you could require recology to provide collection services per >> Yes, we could do that. I'm not sure about the recurrent but that's something we can look into. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Or maybe there's an incentive. I think that would be a good that's a good strategology to provide a collection of so-called hard to recycle items um at least 100 places. Okay. They think they've addressed the need because you could bring it to their store. Well, all right. We need to expand beyond that collection points um conveniently available to say word that I don't yes assess assess potential for requirement ecology partner collection points for harder resale I'd like to see maybe the city put in some policy that prohibits use of plastic signage for elections or or just announcements, you know, public announcements like you know, you know, put a drum plastic sign So make biodegra biodegradable electricides. >> That's cool. >> Fertilizer. >> Okay. >> Great. >> With that native paper. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Uh uh the single-use plastics this um that only applies to like ser serving kind of I guess. Would it apply to like grocery store items that that's a ton of single use plastics? >> Oh. Um, I think this is >> Yeah, I think it's Yeah, but I it might apply like if you're getting suits at QC and they hand >> Yeah. But not um I don't think it's intended for like the containers at QC or PCC bags, chips, things like that. >> Okay. Just making sure. And then um oh the uh upcycle repair uh effort is that tied into the tool library at all. Okay. >> How is the household that you're thinking of? Something that economic solid waste already offers something different that you're thinking of but they do collection days where they set up like local school or something to bring it by their They're large collection facilities and they have a LV1 has a little lane you can drive through and drop it off charge. >> Yeah, let me >> let me talk to Sam. It may have been kind of promoting those events and then um we also the city supplements them by doing collection events hard to recycle but also has price material collection event. So let me talk to her about what she was thinking there. But I think it was mostly connecting people with resources >> city collection. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Does that last one uh included plastic bags for takeaway from say Target? >> Yeah. So, the city had a plastic bag ban and then the state on one's in effect that it does allow for the thicker reusable plastic bag. So, >> we could um >> put some effort into that. >> Just wanted to say something about that and maybe you told me this. I know my sister and Ellensburg were they did the same thing. They did some research around it. So the heavier ones um use more petroleum and then they they cost more to ship around. They're nice, you know, because you can reuse them. We all lot of us have our reusable ones. But so it got to the question of are they actually better? Well, our mayor elect helped move that forward in Isaqua and move that ban forward at the state. So, he'll be a good resource to talk to enforcing one for the thicker plastic >> specifically backwards. >> Well, I I I read an article about the I think it was in Seattle and so somebody had the did the calculations to determine that action resulted in 15% more plastic because they they still get thrown away. The the heavier duty ones still get thrown some of them get thrown away and they use more plastic. So the net result >> they're heavier to ship. So >> um yeah, we could look at incorporating that language around exploring comments on this focus area and okay well I think we went through most of those questions um brought up the idea possibly looking at splitting of the overarching education outreach actions and municipal so we'll look at that and definitely want more feedback from the board. You'll provide some feedback on the municipal operations target and then great um feedback on the two focus area action. So >> may I want to considering actions in in actions that are going to affect the population versus municipality make that clear have just a overarching action section. Okay, >> it's up to that nice balance. >> Just so it reads clear for the public. >> I just think it's confusing proposed change. >> Okay. >> Just seems don't understand if I'm trying to understand it the people on the street. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Why is overarching actions called OD? >> That's how it was in the plan. Right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They just use it for the numbering of the action. >> Exactly. OA makes more sense to me as well. >> Yeah. But we could think about um maybe keep the suggestion keep kind of building off your suggestion is overarching and then we kind of separate within community action overarching community and overarching municipal >> like subsections or something. >> Yeah. >> I did your email, oh is that supposed to be EP? >> It's each of the actions within there is like OB 1.1. >> We can change those. It's our update, so you can change that. >> Okay. Well, great. That was super helpful feedback. Um what we'll be doing is um taking all that input, working on revisions to the actions, and then um bringing back to the board at some point um these sections again for another look. Um at our January meeting, we're still kind of assessing which sections ready to bring forward, but um most likely we'll bring forward transportation and land use since we've already talked a bit about the transportation actions and I think's pretty ready to go. It's already had some initial feedback from TAB and PPC is likely coming up next. Um, wait. I have a number of reports and we're ready. >> All right. Um, so we had three reports attached to the packet. Um, the first one was the IAP end of year report. I sent that out to you all a couple times. I have a few hard copies here. Um it's the first time we've done more of a communityf facing report. So it was meant to have a little bit more storytelling heavy on the photos. Um sharing kind of the key results or takeaways. Um please share that out. We'll probably be using this as a template going forward in report. Um Sam put together a very detailed solid waste report on the work that she's been doing, the successes they've had and some of the interesting partnerships and programming that's happened with solid waste. Um we'll get her back here soon to provide it in person report um and talk through some more of those programs. Um and then David and Dan did a write up on the tree giveaway which happened in mid November. Um gave away I believe 275 trees to community members. They gave away all the trees. Um had some great really ran very smoothly. Uh great partnership with fish. Uh provided a number of volunteers. Um and DEA was just uh worked uh worked very smoothly. So, they have a couple lessons learned on things that they'll improve for next year, but the thought is to make continue to make this an annual um event for the community members to get retrieved. Um and then just a few updates with things going on. Um we have our two solar projects in the works, Pickering Barn and the Senior Center. Um Pickering Barn still working on some of the permitting. Um there's potential that still could be installed before the end of the year, otherwise 2026. Um but we'll make sure to invite all of you um when there is a ribbon cutting ceremony for that project. Um and then the senior center project that is moving forward with the um and we'll have the contract for approval to council early in the new year. Excited to get that one moving. Um, we also have a number of energy efficiency projects in the works. Um, some major weatherization upgrades were just made at our public works building. Um, and we put in a grant this week um for some funding for community center electrification work. Um, we also heard back on two grants which we're really excited about. Um, both from PSSE. Uh, one is a ebike rebate program. So we'll be launching that in the spring probably at the same around the same timeship with um wash dot as they do their second round of ebike rebates. And then um we also got funding from PSSE to do shared EV charging design at this school district administrative building. Um, we'd be the city and the ISD will work in partnership to develop a design for fast charging at that facility that would likely encompass a solar carport or some kind of resiliency element um so that our police vehicles or um electric buses could still charge at least a limited time frame if there was a power outage. Um so those grants will be underway this year and then we're in the process of applying for the fourth time um for charging at Tibbitz Valley Park just at the parking lot here by the skate park. Um let's see I mentioned the um event we did in November is high school with the mayor elect um and students there. We're excited to engage more um with the ASB students as well the sustainability design class. So that will be exciting to explore further. Um and then we are in discussions with King County Library System about um partnering to open the tool library. Iate you more on that. So they're looking at having a kind of a prototype or a pilot um launching at other branches. So, we'll likely be developing a survey for the community that'll go out early in the new year to see, you know, what would be of most interest and so we can prioritize what types of tools or electronics that we'd be purchasing their equipment. Um, as well as trying to build a volunteer uh base that would help with uh evaluation of tools and repairs as needed. Um, we also want to make it kind of a community gathering space where there could be workshops and different events to a library. So, really excited to part partner with PCLS on that and um possibly have a head of the prototype for the rest of their system. Those are my major updates. Um, thank yeah Karen, anything else for you for >> Okay, great. Yeah. And then our next meeting is January 14th. Um probably looking again at the updated proposed work plan and then digging into that section. >> You mentioned tool library and is purchasing tools. Um are you also planning on having people donate tools for >> possibly? Yeah, that's that would be a proposal um with KCLS. We're working on a concept paper with them and that is to have donations. It seems like this will for sure might be able to get company sponsorships too like still you know some of these big tool makers that would >> give you tools to kind of promote >> absolutely >> purchase. Yeah. Yeah. Some local large stores here at that point. Um yeah, >> steel workshop in Criia in a few weeks. I could ask if they do that kind of thing. >> That's it. >> Any final words? Anybody? >> Yeah. One quick one about the tree canopy and the tree met. Um, I saw something recently where Belleview did a a tree planting with children >> and that could have a real big impact on on their learning if they were to go to a park plant some trees. You get to somehow have it a bed for school for class or even high school. >> Yeah. >> But maybe a better engagement school. Alex has it. >> Um, we're planning a tree planting called Tots and Trees with Green Isiqua in March which is aimed for people with pretty with much younger kids like toddler age to early elementary school. So that'll be the second Saturday in March. Um, we'll be hosting that with Green Esqua. So those are great events. I don't know where yet. That's the city's going to figure that out. >> That's great. Yeah, I'll find out more from Dan. >> Great. Um, and Alex, sorry I put you on the spot. Do you want to talk at all about six PPD or you can hold that for another meeting too? >> No, if if folks want to hear about um 6PD monitoring briefly, I can share some pictures of what we've been doing and um just briefly. So, uh 6PD quinone is a chemical that comes off of tires. Well, 6PBD comes off of tires and breaks down into 6PBD quinone, which is highly toxic to coo and cutthroat salmon and potentially other species. So, when we have big storm events, this chemical is getting washed into our riverways. And we are seeing coo in particular um dying before they're able to spawn. And so, um, Toronto Limited along with a number of partners including Washington Department of Ecology and King County and local municipalities have been conducting monitoring throughout the region to see where there are hot spots for 6PD quinone so that we can potentially go and treat the storm water runoff in some way or another, either through um filtration systems that they're working on or through natural building processes and things like that. Um, and so we took on an extra project this year where we are monitoring at 20 sites around Lake Samish and Lake Washington. Um, and let me just share my screen. I can show window. We'll see what I end up accidentally opening here. Um, they're pretty simple. This is what one of the samplers looks like. Um, that's my colleague Dave. Um, are you seeing my picture right now? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, so the sampler, there's these three little passive samplers. They're just filtrous membranes that collect particles in the water as it as it passes through them. Um, so they're just inside a little steel cage and then inside a minnow trap. Um, and we deploy these into creeks. Let me find another good picture. I think there's some in the another folder possibly. Um here's one. Um so we just deploy these into creeks so that the membranes stay underwater. We leave them out for 4 to 6 month or 4 to 6 weeks. Um and then we go out and pull them and send them off to department of ecology to get processed. And so we're getting a timew weighted sample um and can look back and see over this time period we saw you know this much 6 PPDQ collected over um a 4 to 6 week period and and how many storm events that happens to cover. Um so that can just kind of help us determine where we might want to focus some of those efforts. Um so this is ongoing. We don't have anything deployed right now and I'm I'm glad that we pulled everything because it would have gotten lost um in this most recent flood event and the potential flooding events coming up. But we'll be redeploying in January and going throughout the springtime to catch additional storm events. We're also kind of interested in seeing differences between that first storm event in the fall to see like what's built up over the summertime, how much you're getting with that first storm event versus towards the end of the season when we've had a lot of storm events and potentially are having less concentrated amounts going into creeks um at different time periods or based on how much how much flow we're getting into the stream systems. Um, another update is that you will likely be seeing something coming out of a bill coming into the legislature this year um to work on the long-term solution for 6PD quinon. So, this is Trout Unlimited is helping to develop this bill, working with um uh it's a local isqua representative that I can't think of his name right now who is potentially going to sponsor the bill. um but to begin to remove it from tires. Um so this will implement a ban from it in tires in 2035 and work on a fee on tires with 6 PPD in them in the meantime to get folks to begin removing them from the production. Um, good news is is that there's a number of companies that have identified alternative chemicals to use in place of 6TPD. So, we're hopeful that this turnover will begin happening sooner rather than later. Um, and we'll be able to see that in the manufacturing process and then eventually in 2035, we'll for sure have tires without this chemical in them. >> Is it Zach that's working on it? Nice. >> Yes, I believe so. Yeah. Alex, did you have you sent any results any samples off to ecology and got results back yet? >> We have not gotten results back yet. Um, we're kind of waiting on the ecologies lab to get those. They're also doing the regional survey. Their their stuff is going out less regularly. So, they had one sampling event in the springtime that covered about a six week period and then one in this fall time that covered about a six week period. Whereas, we are going out cons more consistently. Um, but we haven't gotten any data yet from those. I hope that we will have that information soon. Um, but just kind of as a reference in Isiqua, we have two samplers on Isiqua Creek, one at the hatchery, one below the um, Parkway. We have one on Lewis Creek or we have two on Lewis Creek above and below um, I90. Um, over on Hans Jensen or not Hans Jensen, sorry. Laughing Jacobs, one on Ebrite, um and then we have some up north on uh Bear Creek and Wanita Creek and then over on the Cedar um and in Cole Creek as well. And then a couple more on the the east side of Lake Washington, too. >> That's good to hear. We'll share that with the regional storm water groups >> on a storm water effort. 6BD's also been a very hot topic quite some time. Um, so the storm water folks have been working on how to treat 6P to get it out of the system before it gets into the streams. We found some some devices that work. Bio remediation works fairly well. Um, just think of, you know, running water through a sand and compost filter. Basically, it grabs 6PD and it doesn't allow it to go any further and just traps it. So, that in the simplest form works quite well. and they're testing all sorts of other filtration devices right now. There's there's probably eight to 10 if not more studies going on on 6PD. We know currently in storm water. Um ecology is putting a ton of money into this as well. has uh the stormwater work group where the permites under that NPS pay in fees and then the the work group issues out studies study research funds after so it's a big topic and there's um there's a subgroup on the other side Alex I don't know if you're aware of called the six PBD subgroup under ecology and those meetings are usually 200 and so on people >> talk about this very top. So, it's being moved on breast. >> Alex, do you need uh any more volunteers in the field for testing? >> I would love more volunteers. Yes, we did have some come out with us. Um not this last sampling event, but the sampling event before that. So, yeah, if anyone's interested, you can shoot me an email and um we can talk about logistics around that. >> We'll do. Thanks. >> Thanks. >> This is all super exciting. It's good stuff. >> I have a question. >> Once it gets in the sand, does anybody know how long it lives there? >> Once it gets into the what? >> The sand. So, it must deteriorate it to a point where it it's non-toxic by a certain point. >> I don't know the halflife of the chemical. I could ask some of the scientists that are working on it. What it does, it gets inside the fish's brain and confuses them and they get disoriented and they lose track of where they're going. They flip upside down and bang into things. They just never make it to spawn. It used to be called pre-spawn mortality. They knew what was happen. And it was local researchers that found >> hearing about it for Larry Frank. >> So happens that there's all this good news to hear. >> Thank you, Alex. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> With that, we'll call the meeting. Thanks everyone. >> Thank you. >> Thanks everyone. >> Thanks Alex Stacey.