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Wednesday, September 5, 2018

7:00 PM · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topic tracked across meetings:
Continued from 9/5/18 Costco Campus Expansion - Building 4 Community Conference, (I) 1/2
Section
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a
Commission Membership
packet pp.3
Staff report:
Development Commission About Staff Liaison Created in 1983, this commission reviews all land Christopher Wright, use actions requiring a Level 3 review. The Project Oversight Manager Commission further serves as an advisory board to Email the City Council on land use actions requiring council approval (Level 5 review). Regular Members 2019 – Michael Brennan The appearance of fairness doctrine prohibits 2019 – Randolph Harrison Development Commission members and City 2020 – Melvin Morgan Council members from discussing the merit of 2020 – Kevin Price specific land use development applications outside 2022 – Jasmina Mihova of the formal public meeting process. Citizens, 2022 – Richard Sowa however, may discuss any issue with the City's 2022 – Richard Sanford Development Services Department. Written comments are also welcome. Alternate Members 2019 – Ryan Roeter Membership 2019 – Vacant…
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of June 6, 2018
packet pp.5–12
Staff report:
CITY OF ISSAQUAH Development Commission MINUTES June 6, 2018 City Hall South 135 E. Sunset Way Council Chambers Issaquah, WA 98027
3. AGENDA ITEMS
3a
Costco Campus Expansion - Building 4 Community Conference, (I)
Jean Lin, Senior Planner
3b
Public Hearing: Costco Campus Expansion - Building 5, (Q)
Jean Lin, Senior Planner Meeting Materials · packet pp.13–272
Staff report:
Development Services 1775 – 12th Ave. NW | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 425-837-3100 issaquahwa.gov
0:19 good evening ladies gentlemen I'd like
0:21 to welcome you to the Costco campus
0:24 expansion for tonight we're going to be
0:27 having a community conference and public
0:32 hearing and so if you wish to speak if
0:37 you're members of the public I'd like
0:39 you to sign in on the table up here and
0:41 we'll when you get ready to speak we'll
0:44 ask you to go up in and state your name
0:47 and address and then we'll listen to
0:51 what you have to say we have a few we
0:54 have an administrative process that we
0:56 have to go through we have some some
0:58 minutes from June 6th which was our last
1:00 meeting which was quite a while ago but
1:02 that we have to prove so I'll ask the
1:05 members of the Commission if they've had
1:07 a chance to review those and would look
1:09 for a motion motion to approve the June
1:21 6 2018 development Commission meeting
1:24 minutes mr. chair second any discussion
1:30 Corrections all those in favor of
1:33 proving the new CI I posed looks like we
1:38 approved the minutes I think
1:54 good evening I'm Lucie sloman Land
1:56 Development Manager for DSD and tonight
2:00 we start the first of two nights
2:02 two-part public hearing for the Costco
2:06 development agreement jean lin will be
2:08 making the presentation i'm taking you
2:10 through the quasi-judicial piece of the
2:14 agenda i am going to just do a little
2:21 bit abbreviated since most of you are
2:23 overly familiar with this deck of slides
2:26 so as a quasi-judicial matter things
2:30 need to be handled like a court which
2:32 means the proceedings are both fair and
2:34 appear fair we do this through two
2:38 different processes one is procedural
2:40 due process the other is substantive due
2:42 process procedural due process as the
2:45 name indicates it's that the procedures
2:47 that we use we provide notice all the
2:50 discussion is on the record available
2:54 for everyone and we also explore the
2:57 relationships between the applicant and
2:59 the decision-makers substantive due
3:02 process essentially means that the basis
3:05 for which we make a decision is adopted
3:07 codes so what I would like to ask the
3:12 commissioners to do first is to read
3:14 through the questions that are up here
3:16 and then I'll ask you a series of
3:18 questions
3:33 how many of you would answer no to all
3:36 the questions no yes is okay that's
3:41 great and then the second piece as I
3:44 mentioned has to do with that all the
3:46 communications have to be on the record
3:48 ex parte communications are discussions
3:52 that you might have had outside of these
3:57 chambers not on the microphone not part
4:00 of the record and so my question to you
4:02 is has anyone had any ex parte
4:06 communications regarding this permit no
4:10 okay great
4:12 and if the applicant chooses to
4:15 challenge any of the commissioners
4:16 please to do so during your presentation
4:19 and that's it
5:04 good evening commissioners I'm gene Linn
5:08 I'm a Senior Planner with the city of
5:10 Issaquah Development Services Department
5:11 and I'm also the project planner for the
5:14 proposed development we've received
5:17 three pieces of Correspondence on the
5:19 project after the publication of the
5:21 staff report the comments have been
5:24 distributed to the development
5:26 commissioners and extra copies are
5:28 available up front the colors materials
5:32 board is also available for viewing
5:33 tonight as well if you wish the proposal
5:37 before you tonight is the Costco campus
5:39 expansion project which consists of two
5:42 discrete land use applications an
5:45 administrative site development permit
5:48 or a SDP and a site development permit
5:52 or SDP with two distinct review
5:55 processes well they are listed as two
5:58 separate items on tonight's agenda
6:00 I'll be making one comprehensive
6:03 presentation for both the following
6:12 meeting sequence is proposed to help
6:14 organize the presentations and
6:15 discussions we start off with a staff
6:18 presentation on the ASDP or
6:21 administrative site develop permit
6:23 excuse me and site development permit
6:25 followed by the applicants presentation
6:28 we then proceed with receiving public
6:31 comments on both applications after
6:34 public comments
6:35 we'll proceed with the community
6:37 conference for the administrative site
6:39 development permit with discussion by
6:42 the development Commission and finally
6:46 will hold the public hearing for the
6:48 site development permit with discussion
6:50 by the development commission members of
6:53 the public who are interested in
6:55 speaking should sign in at the clipboard
6:57 at the front of the room
6:58 as you listen to the presentation
7:00 consider presenting your comments around
7:02 each building separately since the
7:05 development Commission's will have to
7:08 have two separate conversations one on
7:11 each building so this is just a quick
7:18 overview of the themes of this
7:19 presentation I'm gonna start by
7:22 providing some background on the
7:24 existing development agreement and
7:26 highlighting the elements from the
7:29 agreement that are relevant to this
7:31 project given that we're looking at two
7:34 discreet land use permits I'll explain
7:37 the different review criteria and what
7:39 the development Commission's roles are
7:41 with respect to each permit in our
7:45 analysis of the project I'll be focusing
7:47 on connectivity of the circulation
7:50 system as well as the visual
7:52 connectivity through views and quality
7:54 and the quality of open spaces provided
7:56 as part of the development and the
7:58 building in site design elements that
8:00 emphasize the urban streetscape and the
8:03 pedestrian experience the Costco
8:10 corporate campus is located in central
8:12 Issaquah and it's bounded by interstate
8:14 90 to the south
8:17 Pickering pond and Pickering place
8:19 shopping center to the west northwest
8:21 Sammamish Road to the north and the
8:25 Issaquah Creek corridor to the east
8:27 within the campus the retail warehouse
8:30 is at the north end office buildings 1 2
8:34 & 3 are along Pickering pond and the
8:39 western portion of the campus and the
8:41 existing parking garage and trading
8:44 building are at the eastern portion of
8:46 the campus the proposed buildings 4 & 5
8:49 would be at the southern end of the
8:50 campus the site for building 4 is
8:53 highlighted in orange and building 5 is
8:56 highlighted in green
9:00 the proposed development is planned
9:02 across to existing Lots bisected by the
9:05 future extension of Lake Drive the
9:08 project site is currently developed with
9:10 two surface parking lots that serve
9:13 Costco's existing corporate campus
9:15 buildings so a little bit of background
9:23 on the project in 1987 the city approved
9:27 this master site plan for the
9:29 coordinated development of Pickering
9:31 place which was consistent with the
9:33 city's vision at the time in the
9:36 intervening 25 years or so the city's
9:39 vision for this area has evolved and the
9:41 city adopted the central is a call plan
9:43 and development and design standards the
9:46 development agreement which was approved
9:48 in 2015 would implement the central is a
9:52 call plan and associated standards with
9:55 the development agreement Costco may
9:58 build up to 1.5 million square feet of
10:00 new development on their properties over
10:03 30 years these include the property
10:06 Costco owned at the time the development
10:08 agreement was approved as well as
10:10 properties they may acquire with the
10:12 expansion areas the development
10:15 agreement relies on the central Issaquah
10:18 standards as the primary land use
10:20 regulations with the development
10:22 agreement coupled with the
10:24 interpretations and adjustments to
10:26 address unique and specific
10:28 characteristics of Pickering place
10:35 so one of the major purposes of the
10:37 development agreement was to establish a
10:39 partnering agreement between the city
10:42 and Costco for finding road improvements
10:44 that are necessary in the Pickering
10:47 place area to accommodate the planned
10:49 growth the master transportation funding
10:52 agreement included identified three
10:54 transportation projects that would
10:56 create transportation capacity for
10:58 Costco and the larger community and
11:01 provide substantial public benefits for
11:03 circulation and for enabling growth of
11:06 businesses and jobs the first of these
11:09 projects is the East Lake Sammamish
11:11 Parkway which included Road widening
11:13 between South East 56th Street and
11:16 southeast is a cloth wall city road and
11:19 that was completed in 2016 that's
11:21 denoted by the number one on the map the
11:25 12th Avenue Northeast and 17th Avenue
11:28 Northwest SR 900 project includes adding
11:32 turn lanes bicycle lanes and sidewalks
11:34 improvements timing for this project has
11:37 been delayed to allow for coordination
11:39 with Lake Sammamish State Park and this
11:42 is denoted by the number two on the map
11:45 finally the South East 62nd Street
11:48 extension project includes the widening
11:50 and extension of South East 62nd Street
11:53 to the west to meet the southerly
11:55 extension of Lake Drive within the
11:57 Costco campus it's currently under
12:00 construction and scheduled for
12:02 completion later this year and this is
12:04 all this is noted as number 3 on the map
12:06 I'll describe this in a bit more detail
12:09 in the next slide so once completed the
12:16 southeast 62nd Street extension project
12:18 would provide an integral east-west
12:21 connection from Lake Drive to East Lake
12:23 Sammamish Parkway the project includes
12:26 extension of the southern lake a
12:28 southern leg excuse me of Lake Drive
12:30 within the Costco corporate campus with
12:33 a roundabout at that intersection
12:35 additional improvements include upgrades
12:38 to the existing Pickering trail for
12:41 reference the site's four buildings four
12:43 and five are outlined in red in the map
12:49 the land plan is contained in Exhibit D
12:52 of the development agreement and it's a
12:55 high-level site development permit
12:58 establishing one scenario for how the
13:00 development agreement could be
13:02 implemented the land plan shows office
13:06 buildings with under building parking at
13:08 the sites of both buildings four and
13:10 five you should note also that there's a
13:13 small parking lot on the north end of
13:15 building five between building five and
13:17 existing building three per the
13:21 development agreement proposals that are
13:23 consistent with the land plan are
13:24 reviewed administrative ly following a
13:27 community conference proposals over a
13:30 hundred and fifty thousand square feet
13:31 that represent a major alteration to the
13:35 land plan shall follow centralized
13:37 across standard processes this will be
13:40 discussed in more detail later on with
13:43 the review criteria discussion the
13:50 development agreement establishes a
13:52 sustainability component that has
13:55 sustainability goals and implementing
13:58 tools as a requirement new developments
14:01 are required to implement a leadership
14:03 innovation that targets energy-efficient
14:06 performance and a technology innovation
14:08 that focuses on techniques and
14:10 technologies that could benefit the
14:12 community by demonstration some of the
14:15 notable elements from Costco's proposed
14:18 sustainability approach include
14:20 establishing an energy use intensity
14:23 design targets establishing water
14:27 reduction targets installation of solar
14:30 panels achieving LEED Silver equivalent
14:34 energy performance targets and providing
14:37 an energy feedback display that will be
14:39 viewable by Costco staff and the public
14:45 the proposed development includes the
14:47 construction of two new buildings as
14:49 part of Costco's corporate campus this
14:51 includes a ninth story office building
14:53 and a 10 story parking garage the
14:57 buildings are needed to bring
14:58 approximately two
14:59 thousand current employees on to the
15:01 main campus as well as to accommodate
15:03 future growth the proposed office
15:06 building is anticipated to accommodate
15:08 up to forty three hundred employees both
15:11 building sites would include structured
15:13 parking and outdoor community spaces
15:17 building four which is the office
15:19 building would be located on the on the
15:22 northeast corner of Lake Drive in South
15:25 East 62nd Street with Costco's existing
15:27 two-story trading building to the north
15:29 and the Issaquah creek corridor to the
15:32 east the building is approximately
15:34 600,000 square feet and its footprint on
15:37 the street level is separated into two
15:41 discrete wings with a through block
15:44 passage between the west and east wings
15:46 and a sky bridge connecting these wings
15:49 on the upper floors ground floor active
15:53 uses include the main entry lobby
15:55 meeting rooms and cafeteria there's also
16:00 an auditorium and service uses on the
16:02 ground floor this building frames
16:04 several outdoor spaces including the
16:07 central court plaza 62nd East Plaza and
16:10 Creekside Terrace building five the
16:15 parking structure would be located on
16:18 the northeast corner of Lake Drive in
16:20 South East 62nd Street with Costco's
16:22 existing three-story building three
16:25 office building to the north and
16:27 Pickering pond to the west at the street
16:30 level this building is also separated
16:33 into two wings with a through block
16:35 passage between the north and south
16:37 wings these wings are fully connected on
16:41 the upper levels
16:42 the building is l-shaped where the
16:45 narrower north wing is designed around
16:47 the existing loading area and garage
16:49 ramp serving building 3 and that would
16:52 largely screen these vehicular and
16:54 service uses from views along Lake Drive
16:56 on the ground floor there would be
16:59 approximately 30,000 square feet of
17:01 exhibition and fitness space wrapping
17:04 much of the parking utility and service
17:06 uses at the interior at the site and
17:09 finally a sky bridge across
17:12 Lake Drive is proposed to provide an
17:14 internal connection between the two
17:16 buildings on the upper floors
17:26 the zoning for the property's urban core
17:29 which is shaded in pink and the intent
17:32 of the zone is to provide a dense
17:34 vibrant pedestrian friendly urban
17:37 environment with active first floors
17:39 that provide pedestrian interests the
17:43 proposed development includes
17:44 high-density office and office support
17:46 uses which are permitted in the urban
17:48 core zone surrounding properties within
17:51 Pickering place
17:52 Costco's corporate campus and properties
17:54 south of interstate 90 are also within
17:57 the urban core as mentioned earlier the
18:06 Costco campus expansion project consists
18:09 of two discrete permits an
18:11 administrative site development permit
18:13 for building four and a site development
18:15 permit for building five even though
18:18 it's presented in the same staff report
18:20 our intent is to promote a comprehensive
18:23 analysis of the overall development to
18:27 reduce redundancy and still provide the
18:29 site-specific analysis that would have
18:31 been provided had this been separated
18:33 into two staff reports our intent is
18:37 also to retain the distinct levels of
18:39 development Commission review roles and
18:42 purview as established by the Costco
18:44 development agreement the proposed
18:47 building for substantially consistent
18:50 with the land plan and that and which
18:52 shows an office building with under
18:54 building parking the proposed the
18:57 proposal does not meet any of the major
18:59 alteration thresholds defined in the
19:02 development agreement and only minor
19:03 alterations are proposed according to
19:06 the development agreement the proposals
19:08 that are consistent with the land plan
19:10 are reviewed administrative Lee except
19:12 that during the review process an
19:14 informal community conference will be
19:16 held with the Development Commission the
19:19 community conference is an opportunity
19:21 to invite conversation and receive input
19:24 from the Commission and the public
19:26 following the community conference staff
19:29 will use this input and the preparation
19:31 of an administrative decision
19:33 and tonight serves as the community
19:35 conference for the ASDP for building for
19:44 proposed building five is a parking
19:46 garage whereas it's shown as an office
19:48 building with underground parking in the
19:50 land plan as originally contemplated in
19:53 the land plan the existing Costco
19:55 parking garage adjacent to Pickering
19:58 barn was intended to serve both existing
20:00 and new buildings but Costco chose to
20:04 build another garage next to building
20:05 for another change that results from the
20:08 major alteration of land plan is the
20:10 elimination of the small parking lot
20:13 between buildings 3 & 5 where a new
20:15 Plaza is now proposed this is a
20:18 beneficial change and it's in greater
20:20 compliance with the Central Isaac law
20:21 standards for these reasons building 5
20:25 is not substantially consistent with the
20:27 land plan and is a major alteration
20:30 requiring more traditional development
20:32 Commission review the site development
20:37 permit review process would follow the
20:38 two meeting format where the first
20:41 meeting will feature presentations by
20:43 both staff and the applicant followed by
20:46 the development commission and public
20:49 comments questions and concerns the
20:51 second meeting will be responses to
20:53 these comments questions and concerns in
20:55 addition to the standard briefing
20:58 response memo the applicants also
21:05 requesting to administrative adjustment
21:07 of standards that would apply to both
21:09 buildings 4 & 5 these requests include
21:13 modifying the loading space and tree
21:15 retention requirements both of these
21:17 will be discussed in more detail later
21:19 and the discussion this is the decision
21:22 excuse me for these administrative
21:24 adjustments of standards will be part of
21:26 the development Commission's
21:28 consideration on the administrative site
21:31 development permits and the development
21:33 Commission's decision on the site
21:35 development permits a third
21:39 administrative adjustment of standards
21:40 will be requested as part of the 3 block
21:42 passage design at building 5 and that
21:45 will be discussed in more detail later
21:47 in the presentation
21:57 with respect to environmental review a
22:00 planned action environmental impact
22:02 statement was adopted for the central is
22:04 across sub area plan in 2012 the purpose
22:08 of the planned action environmental
22:09 impact statement was to address
22:11 environmental impacts up front in order
22:14 to facilitate an expedite environmental
22:16 review for future individual development
22:19 projects and to streamline the permit
22:21 review process when the development
22:24 projects are proposed that are
22:26 consistent with the environmental impact
22:28 statement analysis no additional
22:30 environmental review or separate SEPA
22:33 determination is required a planned
22:37 action determination was adopted in 2014
22:40 as part of the Costco development
22:41 agreement the planned action
22:43 determination evaluated impacts as part
22:46 of the development agreement for future
22:48 build-out of Costco's corporate
22:50 headquarters for up to 1.5 million
22:53 square feet of additional office
22:55 development no additional SEPA review is
22:58 required if future proposals are
23:01 consistent with the Costco development
23:03 agreement and the planned action
23:05 determination the proposed development
23:08 for buildings 4 & 5 were evaluated and
23:10 found to be consistent with the planned
23:12 action determination and no significant
23:15 adverse environmental impacts were
23:17 identified with respect to pedestrian
23:25 circulation / the central Issaquah
23:27 standards additional pedestrian
23:28 circulation facilities need to be
23:31 provided where the block lengths exceed
23:33 300 feet pedestrian connectivity / the
23:37 land plan requires an incremental
23:39 build-out of the pedestrian system
23:40 between Lake Drive and the existing
23:42 shared use routes a traditional grid
23:46 block street system couldn't be applied
23:48 to Costco's corporate campus due to the
23:51 site configuration and adjacency to
23:53 Ezequiel Creek and Pickering pond the
23:56 existing shared use roots of the
23:58 Pickering trail to the east and the
24:00 Pickering pond trail to the west
24:03 are approximately 300 feet from Lake
24:05 Drive and they would provide north-south
24:08 connections however it's necessary to
24:11 provide regular connections between Lake
24:13 Drive and the shared use routes to meet
24:16 the requirements for east-west
24:17 connectivity as envisioned in the land
24:20 plan the east-west through blocked
24:23 passages would be provided at buildings
24:24 4 & 5 I circled in yellow and the
24:27 graphic on top the proposed east-west
24:31 through block passages are circled in
24:33 blue and the graphic on the bottom and
24:36 provides pedestrian connections to the
24:38 existing shared use routes at building
24:42 floor this pedestrian route is located
24:44 at the northern edge of the site and is
24:46 adjacent to the trading building it
24:49 extends from Lake Drive to the Pickering
24:52 trail at building 5 the pedestrian route
24:55 is located approximately midpoint along
24:58 Lake Drive frontage in the area
25:01 separating the buildings north and south
25:02 wings and extends to the pond overlooked
25:05 and Pickering Pond Trail additionally a
25:08 north-south through blocked passage at
25:11 building 4 is provided between the east
25:14 and west wings of this building at the
25:16 street level and it provides a
25:18 connection between the central court
25:19 plaza and the 62nd east plaza on the
25:22 site
25:30 the eastern segment of the through
25:31 blocked passage pedestrian route would
25:34 be adjacent to the trading building with
25:37 building floor just to the south at the
25:40 east end the path would cross the
25:42 trading buildings loading in service
25:44 area building floors loading in service
25:46 areas also just to the south and while
25:49 it's functionally logical to have these
25:51 uses at this location it could be a
25:53 pedestrian unfriendly area where the
25:56 route doesn't give pedestrians equal
25:58 priority to vehicles the blue oval on
26:02 the drawing shows a location where this
26:05 conflict occurs and the photo on the
26:08 right shows the existing loading area at
26:10 the Trading Building we've included
26:13 condition 3 which would require that the
26:15 pedestrian path be designed to
26:17 prioritize pedestrians and to minimize
26:20 conflicts with the truck loading area
26:23 Costco anticipates redeveloping the
26:26 trading building in the future however
26:28 this condition will ensure that this
26:31 path works now since the timing of the
26:33 trading building redevelopment is
26:34 unknown
26:42 at building five the proposed alignment
26:44 and design of the through block passage
26:46 presents some challenges as a Haseeno
26:49 gate negotiate through an area that is
26:52 predominantly designed for vehicles so
26:55 building five is the parking garage and
26:57 the diagram on top shows the proposed
26:59 alignment in blue which does not provide
27:01 a direct route and requires pedestrians
27:04 to cross to vehicular areas which are
27:06 circled in orange the diagram on the
27:11 bottom shows a straighter alignment
27:13 although there's still two points where
27:16 the pedestrians would need to cross
27:17 vehicular pass the secondary thru block
27:21 passage standard requires 13 feet
27:23 overall width with five feet of tread
27:25 and four feet of landscaping on either
27:27 side while the western end of this route
27:30 can likely comply given the landscaped
27:33 area the eastern end the go sheets
27:35 through the building where it'll be
27:37 difficult for plants to grow and where
27:39 the width is limited condition four is
27:43 proposed as a preliminary condition to
27:46 require an administrative adjustment of
27:48 standards to remove the landscape border
27:51 where the route passes through the
27:52 building and replace it with a slightly
27:55 wider trail it also requires building
27:58 design and hem enhancements to
28:00 compensate for the removal of the
28:02 landscape border the applicant intends
28:05 to pursue the administrative adjustment
28:07 of standards to provide greater clarity
28:10 to the design of this route and that'll
28:12 be reviewed as part of the briefing this
28:14 briefing response memo during the
28:17 development Commission's second meeting
28:20 should this preliminary condition be
28:22 adequately addressed at that time it
28:25 will not warrant inclusion in the final
28:27 conditions of approval
28:32 the primary streets providing access to
28:35 the proposed development include Lake
28:36 Drive in South East 62nd Street both of
28:39 which are core streets and are shown in
28:41 the dark blue course streets create a
28:44 livable Street character with pedestrian
28:46 and bicycle priority where active ground
28:49 floor uses are encouraged and it
28:51 promotes walkability
28:52 as mentioned before both of these
28:55 streets are current
28:55 under construction in this diagram
28:59 vehicular driveway access points are
29:01 noted with red arrows truck loading
29:04 areas are called out with the letter L
29:06 in the pink circle and parking access is
29:09 noted with the letter P in the blue
29:11 circle for building for one driveway
29:15 along Lake Drive would provide access to
29:18 the auto court circular passenger
29:20 loading area the at-grade loading area
29:23 at the north end of the building and the
29:26 ramp for the underground garage the same
29:29 driveway would also provide access to
29:30 the existing loading docks and surface
29:33 area on the south side of the trading
29:35 building for building five two driveways
29:38 would be serving this site one along
29:42 Lake Drive at the thru block passage and
29:45 the second would be along South East
29:48 62nd Street at the southwest corner of
29:50 the building
29:51 both driveways would provide access to
29:54 the existing service area and garage
29:56 ramp at building three which minimizes
29:59 the number of driveways serving both
30:02 buildings central is across standards
30:08 requires developments to make actual
30:09 views and this is to be the focal points
30:13 additionally the land plan requires that
30:15 building designs explore opportunities
30:17 to highlight territorial views and
30:19 vistas the build out of Lake Drive has
30:23 resulted in a straighter straighter
30:24 alignment than was contemplated in the
30:27 development agreement and this isn't
30:30 abled a strong review corridor of the
30:32 Issaquah Alps to the south
30:34 the design of the sky bridge over Lake
30:37 Drive intentionally incorporates a high
30:40 level of transparency as required by the
30:42 development agreement which improves
30:45 access and frames views of the Issaquah
30:47 Alps the sky bridge which connects level
30:50 4 and building 4 and level 5 in building
30:53 5 these renderings show the mountain
30:56 views as they're seen along Lake Drive
31:07 the two renderings on the Left show
31:10 anticipated views from the through block
31:12 passages the rendering on top shows
31:16 views looking east towards as a clock
31:18 creek and the rendering on the bottom
31:21 shows views looking west towards
31:23 Pickering Pond the Eastern through
31:26 blocked passage which is north of
31:28 building four and adjacent to the
31:29 trading building provides a mostly
31:31 direct route that ends at the Issaquah
31:33 Creek corridor with the natural habitat
31:36 as the focal point the Western through
31:40 blocked passage is approximately 15 feet
31:42 in height where it goes through building
31:44 five which will likely allow for views a
31:47 Pickering pond as the focal point an
31:50 existing example on the Costco campus is
31:53 at the building 1 sky bridge as shown in
31:56 the photo on the bottom right also note
31:59 that the sky bridge is narrower than the
32:01 through blocked passage through building
32:03 five the central Issaquah standards
32:13 requires new projects to retain 25% of
32:16 the total diameter of significant and
32:19 landmark trees on the exists in the
32:21 existing tree stock there are a total of
32:24 140 significant and landmark trees on
32:26 the property with a total of 1535
32:30 caliper inches and 25% of that would be
32:34 384 Cal / inches the applicant is
32:39 proposing to modify this requirement
32:42 through an administrative adjustment of
32:43 standards to allow all the trees to be
32:46 removed proposed tree removals are noted
32:49 by red circles on this plan many of
32:53 these trees are in the parking lots and
32:55 along the edges were planted when the
32:58 parking lot and Pickering place were
32:59 developed in the 1990s
33:01 there's clusters of significant trees
33:04 along the eastern and western edges of
33:06 the site adjacent to is a quote adjacent
33:09 to the Issaquah Creek corridor and
33:11 Pickering pond
33:13 over the years these trees have thrived
33:16 due to their adjacency to open spaces
33:19 staff and the applicant have explored
33:21 ways to preserve these trees at the
33:24 edges but it wasn't possible because
33:27 they would be significantly impacted by
33:29 the proposed grading activities and
33:31 utility installations as part of the
33:33 development as a result these trees are
33:36 proposed for a removal new landscaping
33:39 including trees and green screens are
33:41 proposed to be planted along these edges
33:43 to help mitigate the impact the project
33:52 proposes approximately 1,800 vehicular
33:55 parking spaces which meets the minimum
33:57 required all of the parking serving the
34:01 proposed development would either be
34:02 under the building or in structured
34:04 parking existing parking facilities
34:07 throughout Costco's corporate campus
34:09 would include existing surface Lots
34:11 under building garages and the eight
34:13 story parking garage currently all of
34:17 the bicycle parkings proposed in
34:19 building five and no part bicycle
34:21 parking at building four which is
34:24 inconsistent with the central is across
34:25 standards condition 12 would ensure that
34:28 at least 25% of the required bicycle
34:31 parking would be provided at building
34:33 four and that bicycle parking would be
34:36 placed in close proximity to primary
34:38 building entrances without blocking
34:40 pedestrian circulation facilities at
34:46 this point of the presentation I'm going
34:48 to switch from elements that apply
34:50 equally to both buildings to information
34:53 relevant only to the community
34:55 conference for the office building while
34:59 building four is large is a large and
35:02 dense building it does comply with the
35:04 development standards of the urban core
35:06 zone
35:13 proposed community spaces at the site
35:16 include the central court plaza 62nd
35:19 East Plaza and Creekside Terrace these
35:25 spaces range from the formal and urban
35:27 plazas to the informal and nature
35:30 focused Terrace the central court Plaza
35:37 is centrally located along Lake Drive
35:41 and extends to the interior of the site
35:43 where it's framed by building fours east
35:45 and west wings a through block passage
35:48 between the two wings connects this
35:50 plaza to the 62nd East Plaza primary
35:54 entries to the building front on this
35:56 plaza including the main entry Lobby
35:59 cafeteria and dining areas some of the
36:03 proposed amenities include a variety of
36:05 seating options formal landscaping and
36:08 tree wells and raised planter beds and
36:09 decorative paving the tree wells in the
36:14 plaza is relocated above the underground
36:16 garage in order to ensure that there
36:19 will be sufficient soil for trees to
36:21 thrive conditions 6 is included to
36:25 require minimum dimensions and depths
36:26 for the tree wells the Creek site
36:33 Terrace outdoor amenity space is located
36:36 at the rear of the building and it
36:38 overlooks as a quad creek corridor in
36:41 contrast to the more urban environment
36:42 of the plazas the terrace highlights the
36:45 adjacent natural environment some of the
36:48 amenities in the space include a wood
36:50 deck area informal plantings and a
36:53 curvilinear path with pockets of seating
37:02 the southwestern corner of the building
37:06 is located at the street intersection
37:08 this building corner is required to have
37:10 a minimum of 60 feet of building
37:13 frontage at the build to line to
37:15 maintain a continuous street wall
37:17 building floors approximately has
37:19 approximately 150 feet extending from
37:22 the corner along both streets and that's
37:25 noted by the blue line above other areas
37:28 where the building is located within the
37:29 build two line are also noted with the
37:32 blue line in areas where the plazas and
37:35 landscape elements would help define the
37:36 street edge are noted in green building
37:41 at building entries are noted with the
37:43 red asterisks and open onto the
37:46 community spaces and the streets the
37:50 building's ground floor is designed to
37:52 incorporate active uses including the
37:55 main entry lobby meeting rooms and staff
37:57 cafeteria elevations at the ground floor
38:01 incorporate a brick base with Bay's of
38:04 glazed storefront windows and canopies
38:07 and rendering suggest a high level of
38:10 transparency between the interior and
38:12 exterior spaces breaking up the glazed
38:15 storefront with bays coupled with the
38:17 canopies helps make the building more
38:19 pedestrian scaled primary entrances to
38:23 these active uses face both the plaza
38:25 and the street and the canopies are at
38:28 our six feet in depth are proposed at
38:31 the building entries and across at least
38:33 75% of the building facade and they
38:36 provide weather protection where the
38:38 building is set back from the property
38:40 line the sidewalk would be extended up
38:43 to the building the land plan requires
38:49 that the presence of buildings be
38:51 maximized at the corners many building
38:53 corners incorporate special treatment to
38:55 highlight the importance of these
38:57 locations Corner lanterns are located at
39:01 prominent building corners and consists
39:03 of clear glass curtain walls with opaque
39:06 glass spandrels extending from the
39:08 ground floor all the way to the top
39:10 floor when it's lit the vertical volume
39:14 lights up like a lantern the northern
39:18 elevation the corner Lantern is located
39:21 at the building corner above the main
39:23 entry and which would be a prominent
39:26 feature along Lake Drive and that's
39:28 outlined in red on the south elevations
39:32 the corners of both buildings at the
39:34 street intersection feature similar
39:36 corner Lantern elements and accent panel
39:40 cladding at the ends of both buildings
39:41 help bookend the buildings on Costco's
39:44 corporate campus and they're outlined in
39:47 orange the sky bridge across Lake Drive
39:50 coupled with the central court plaza and
39:53 auto Court at building four would convey
39:56 an impressible impressionable sense of
39:59 arrival along Lake Drive
40:02 additionally corner building treatment
40:04 design elements on buildings four and
40:06 five such as the corner lanterns
40:08 an accent panel cladding bookends would
40:11 help frame this entry portal well the
40:21 building is designed with detail none of
40:23 the facade is treated as the back side
40:26 there are locations where the brick base
40:29 creates blank walls that need further
40:31 articulation or modulation the southeast
40:35 corner of the building where the
40:37 proposed auditorium is located is
40:39 designed with a continuous stretch of
40:41 blank masonry wall that wraps around the
40:44 corner and that's outlined in red and
40:46 the diagram above these walls would be
40:51 prominent along 62nd Street as well as
40:53 from the Pickering trail and they don't
40:56 represent a pedestrian friendly design
40:58 the applicant proposes to treat this
41:01 corner with landscaping which includes
41:03 raised landscape planters with evergreen
41:05 shrubs and trees but given the length of
41:08 this corner and its prominence
41:11 landscaping alone isn't sufficient an
41:14 additional surface relief would be
41:16 needed to help break up its massing
41:19 there's a section of blank wall on the
41:22 west elevation at the northwest corner
41:24 of the building that fronts on the ramp
41:26 to the underground
41:27 Raaj it's outlined in red in the bottom
41:31 drawing this section of blank wall is
41:33 visible but set back from Lake Drive and
41:36 conceptual landscape plans show
41:38 landscaping between the wall and the
41:40 edge of the garage ramp as well as on
41:42 the other side of the ramp given the
41:44 conceptual nature of the landscape plans
41:46 it's difficult to determine whether at
41:49 this stage if the proposed landscape
41:51 treatment is sufficient or of additional
41:54 treatment would be needed condition 10
41:56 has been included to require treatment
41:58 of the blank walls on the south what
42:00 southeast corner and West elevations
42:03 treatment would include articulation or
42:06 other techniques with landscaping
42:08 applied as a secondary feature
42:16 development on on the building for site
42:19 includes removal of a 561 square foot
42:22 wetland at the southeast corner of the
42:25 parcel this is the only wetland on the
42:28 project site and it's not part of a
42:31 wetland complex the wetland is a cat has
42:34 a category 4 rating which is indicative
42:37 of wetlands that are heavily disturbed
42:39 and have low habitat function according
42:42 to the Issaquah Municipal Code wetlands
42:45 that are less than 2,500 square feet in
42:47 size and that are not part of a wetland
42:50 complex may be altered if mitigation is
42:53 provided to demonstrate no less no net
42:56 loss of functions or values and no
42:59 buffer is required for these wetlands
43:01 the applicant is proposing off-site
43:04 mitigation through the king county
43:05 mitigation reserves program which is an
43:09 N Luffy program that allows primitives
43:11 to mitigate impacts through the purchase
43:14 of credits applicants will pay a fee to
43:18 King County and this would be used to
43:20 restore establish enhance and are
43:23 preserved wetland River stream and
43:26 buffer within the same watershed as the
43:28 impact condition 14 would prohibit any
43:32 removal of the wetland until off-site
43:34 mitigation has been provided
43:42 at this point of the presentation I'm
43:45 going to switch to information relevant
43:47 only to the public hearing for the
43:49 parking garage so building five is a
43:54 large dense building that is close to
43:56 reaching the maximum allowable building
43:58 envelope its floor area ratio is low due
44:01 to the fact that areas used for parking
44:03 don't count towards the floor area ratio
44:05 this building complies with the
44:08 development standards of the urban core
44:10 zone proposed community spaces at the
44:17 site include North Plaza and 62nd West
44:20 Plaza while not proposed as a community
44:24 space the pond overlook adds the variety
44:27 of open space options for future users
44:30 similar to the Creekside Terrace at
44:32 building for the pond overlook takes
44:34 advantage of its proximity to and
44:36 highlights natural habitats around
44:38 Pickering pond and it provides direct
44:41 connection to the Pickering pond trail
44:46 North Plaza is located on the west side
44:49 of Lake Drive between building five and
44:52 existing building three these adjacent
44:54 buildings help frame this new triangular
44:56 plaza as well as provide a transitional
44:59 open space between these two buildings
45:01 the adjacent exhibit space on the ground
45:04 floor of building five have entries onto
45:06 this Plaza and its storefront windows
45:09 provide transparency between the indoor
45:11 and outdoor spaces these amenities the
45:14 amenities that are suggested for this
45:16 Plaza include an art feature a variety
45:18 of seating options formal landscaping
45:22 and tree wells and planter beds and
45:24 decorative paving
45:31 buildings are required to be located at
45:34 the build to line of ten of zero to ten
45:37 feet in the urban core zone in order to
45:39 help define the street edge with some
45:41 allowance for architectural and
45:43 landscape elements to help define this
45:45 edge due to the curvilinear nature of
45:47 the adjacent streets the development
45:50 agreement allows buildings to meet the
45:52 purpose and intent of the central
45:53 Issaquah standards rather than the
45:55 strict letter of this standard at the
45:59 street corners buildings are also
46:00 required to have a minimum street
46:02 presence of 60 feet of building frontage
46:05 at the build to line in the diagram on
46:07 the Left area is where the building is
46:10 located within the build two line are
46:12 noted in the blue line and areas where
46:15 the plazas and landscape elements would
46:17 help define the street edge are noted in
46:19 green active ground floor uses
46:22 consisting of exhibit space and fitness
46:26 center wrap around the majority of the
46:28 building Street frontages the extensive
46:32 use of storefront windows provide a high
46:34 level of transparency and primary
46:37 entrances to these active uses face both
46:39 the plaza and the street canopies that
46:44 are six feet in depth are proposed at
46:45 the building entries and deep eve
46:48 overhangs over the southwest corner of
46:50 the building where the fitness center is
46:52 located would help give the building a
46:54 more pedestrian scale where the building
46:57 is set back from the property line the
47:00 sidewalk would be extended up to the
47:01 building
47:07 building corner treatments at building
47:10 five these would mirror those at
47:13 building four so a corner Lantern which
47:16 is outlined in red would be at the
47:18 street intersection an accent paneling
47:21 outline in orange would book in the
47:23 Costco campus buildings over all the
47:32 building corporates color texture and
47:35 material variation that provides visual
47:38 interest and helps break up the
47:39 perception of building massing but
47:42 there's two locations where blank walls
47:44 are present and where they need to be
47:46 treated on the West elevation facing the
47:50 Pickering pond trail there's a section
47:52 of brick clad wall to the south of the
47:56 green screen that screens the driveway
47:58 at that location it's it's outlined in
48:02 red on the elevation on top on the North
48:05 elevation a section of blank wall
48:07 extends from the generator room to the
48:09 stair tower that's also outlined in red
48:12 and the elevation on the bottom this
48:16 excuse me this section of wall would be
48:19 adjacent to the through block passage
48:21 pedestrian paths between Pickering Pond
48:23 Trail and Lake Drive and due to its
48:26 visibility on along these pedestrian
48:29 paths this wall would also need to be
48:31 treated condition 11 requires treatment
48:35 of the blank walls on the west and north
48:36 elevations treatment could include
48:39 articulation or other techniques and
48:41 landscaping can be applied as a
48:43 secondary feature
48:51 to screen the rooftop parking from views
48:57 from building four from both above and
49:02 from views from across and above
49:05 trellises and lo perimeter walls are
49:07 proposed trellises are proposed along
49:10 most of the perimeter of the rooftop as
49:12 well as the interior of the rooftop to
49:15 provide screening from above and these
49:18 trellises are shown in orange in the
49:20 floor plan on the left the trellises
49:23 would also be designed to accommodate
49:25 the installation of solar panels the
49:29 perimeter wall around the roof is only
49:32 three feet tall where five feet is
49:33 required due to the visibility from
49:36 building four and compliance with the
49:38 standard of be insured through condition
49:40 13 so in conclusion staff finds that the
49:50 administrative site development permit
49:52 for building for the office building
49:55 largely complies with the land plan and
49:58 centralism call plan and standards staff
50:01 is seeking input from the development
50:03 Commission and the public as part of the
50:05 community conference before proceeding
50:07 with the administrative decision for
50:09 this application and this includes the
50:12 associated administrative adjustment of
50:16 standards staff all staff finds that the
50:20 site development permit for building
50:21 five the parking garage is consistent
50:24 with the Comprehensive Plan the central
50:27 is a call plan and meets all applicable
50:30 codes rules regulations and policies and
50:33 complies with the applicable development
50:35 agreement and land plan elements and
50:38 recommends approval for this application
50:40 and associated administrative
50:44 adjustments of standards
50:50 so once again this is the proposed
50:54 meeting sequence members of the public
50:57 who are interested in speaking should
50:59 sign in at the front and as you listen
51:01 to the presentation consider presenting
51:03 your comments around each building
51:05 separately since the development
51:07 commissioners will happen to have two
51:09 separate conversations on each building
51:12 one on each building so at this time I'd
51:15 like to turn this over to the applicants
51:17 for their presentation thank you
51:38 good
51:50 good evening everyone
51:53 mr. chair members of the Development
51:56 Commission my name is Jackie Frank I'm
51:58 the vice president of real-estate
51:59 development for Costco Wholesale I first
52:04 presented before the development
52:05 Commission I think it was an early of
52:07 1993 which was over 25 years ago it's
52:13 been a long time and it's been a long
52:16 relationship and we appreciate that
52:18 first of all let me thank Jean Lucy
52:22 Keith the rest of staff throughout this
52:25 entire process you should know staff has
52:27 has shown Costco as well as the design
52:30 team a tremendous courtesy tremendous
52:32 professionalism and we really appreciate
52:35 the collaborative partnership that we've
52:37 developed it's been a great working
52:41 relationship and I and I think you can
52:43 see that as a result of or see that
52:46 reflected in the in the design a couple
52:49 things tonight I want to try and put
52:51 this in context for you all and then
52:54 we've got two two presentations I want
52:57 to talk a little bit about the company
52:58 and and why we're doing this in the
53:00 first place
53:01 I'd like Steve Bullock to talk a little
53:05 bit about planning constraints and
53:08 design determinants and then Sharon
53:10 Shannon soos will discuss the specifics
53:13 as to design solutions as to how we
53:18 arrived at solutions relative to the
53:22 SIDS the CIP and and the coordination
53:26 with staff we do have representatives
53:28 here from from Weitzman our landscape
53:31 architect from rushing our MEP and
53:33 sustainability consultant from Dowell
53:34 our civil engineer who helped us with
53:37 with utilities grading drainage etc so
53:43 we're not planning a formal presentation
53:45 but they are here to answer any
53:48 questions you might have
53:49 Patrick Mulaney has here a Foster pepper
53:51 who was instrumental in working with
53:54 ritual and
53:55 the adoption of the development
53:57 agreement so if there are any questions
53:59 regarding the implementation or the
54:02 intent of the development agreement
54:03 Patrick can help us with that as well so
54:08 we've had a long history here you have
54:12 an aerial photograph above before you
54:17 retail warehouse in the north the north
54:20 edge of the campus buildings one two and
54:23 three that have evolved since the early
54:25 90s all the way through the mid 2000s we
54:30 built the parking structure north of the
54:33 trading building 2013 2014 as well right
54:43 now we currently have about four hundred
54:45 and eighty thousand square feet of
54:47 office space
54:48 of course the retail of warehouse is one
54:51 hundred and sixty thousand square feet
54:52 the trading building which really serves
54:54 as kind of a packaging manufacturing and
54:57 some distribution that's about 50,000
54:59 square feet they're currently 4,000
55:01 stalls on-site which is about 7.45
55:05 stalls per thousand square feet we
55:07 currently have around 3,000 employees on
55:10 the campus but the campus has has been a
55:15 little constraining for us so in the
55:18 [Music]
55:21 mid-2000s 2006 2007 we leased and
55:25 purchased Lake place one in Lake place
55:27 to those primarily how's our Costco
55:31 travel business which has been a growing
55:33 and successful successful business that
55:36 space wasn't enough for us so
55:38 subsequently we've entered into leases
55:41 on the Sammamish Park place as well as
55:44 the space labs property to the to the
55:47 north and to the east those leases were
55:50 done in late 2014 early 2015 so as we as
55:58 we started thinking about our needs we
56:03 have approximately 4,000 employees that
56:06 are off-site in about 40
56:09 about four hundred and forty five
56:10 thousand square feet of office as we
56:13 look to implementing the development
56:16 agreement and taking advantage of the of
56:18 the the 1.5 million square feet of
56:21 development entitlements we started
56:24 looking at a couple of options
56:26 number one costco is successful
56:29 primarily because of its collaboration
56:30 and tremendous efficiencies and we think
56:33 that having people in a in a caste wide
56:38 around the sukhoi area is probably not
56:40 as efficient as we could be so the first
56:42 thought we had was we would like to
56:44 travel will stay at blake place one and
56:47 lake place two but we'd like to return
56:48 about twenty five hundred employees who
56:51 are currently off-site and leased
56:52 facilities to come back to the campus
56:55 and help us realize those synergies and
56:57 efficiencies but we'd also like to
56:59 provide a reasonable reasonable amount
57:02 of space to allow for growth of the
57:05 company the central headquarters is is
57:08 really intended to be a support for the
57:11 remainder of the company and and we do
57:14 find that there's a certain number
57:15 certain amount of population per
57:18 warehouse of support for all the various
57:22 support services and we are seeing a
57:25 probably three and a half to four
57:26 percent of employment growth per year as
57:29 we continue to grow our our business in
57:32 really internationally so if we take
57:41 advantage of the the development
57:43 agreement with the intention of bringing
57:45 offsite folks back to the campus
57:47 realizing those efficiencies and then
57:50 providing room for growth it really
57:52 helped us think about how we kind of
57:55 marry our our intentions with the city
57:58 of Issaquah z' intentions and what this
58:00 would give us would be about a million
58:03 won of square feet on campus of office
58:07 space about fifty seven hundred total
58:09 parking stalls which nets out to about
58:12 four point four per thousand square feet
58:15 of square footage which would take us up
58:19 to about seven thousand on-site
58:21 employees and
58:22 we would still remain with about 1500
58:25 off-site employees primarily for Cosmo
58:27 travel so just a just a kind of a brief
58:34 highlight of our of our partnership in
58:37 our relationship you've all worked with
58:40 ritual and over over the years and I've
58:43 been involved since the since the days
58:46 of the of the warehouse but we've been
58:48 we've actually had a couple of other
58:50 folks who've been involved with the the
58:53 central Issaquah plan as a matter of
58:56 fact both Peter Kahn and and kim katz
59:00 represented and participated in the
59:02 citizens advisory committee for central
59:05 Issaquah this is at their very early
59:06 days of the CIP it also participated on
59:11 the Transportation Committee for
59:13 consideration of the local
59:14 transportation improvements the city
59:16 would take on and both of them have been
59:18 over time involved with both the chamber
59:21 and the government affairs committee
59:23 with the city of Issaquah all of us have
59:26 been involved in the early stages of the
59:28 negotiations of the development
59:29 agreement as well as various projects in
59:31 Issaquah the wetlands fill the expansion
59:35 projects the gas design construction
59:37 various approvals construction of the as
59:41 well as construction of the lake and 60
59:43 second improvements project it's
59:46 interesting because no sooner was the
59:48 development agreement completed that is
59:50 when we started thinking about growth
59:53 and the objective to bring our remote
59:55 employees back to campus and and to and
59:59 to grow in place on campus
1:00:05 so when we look at our goals number one
1:00:07 we want to grow our business we want to
1:00:10 take care of our employees which is a
1:00:11 key component of our of our mission
1:00:14 statement we wanted to have an
1:00:15 integrated campus that realized the
1:00:18 efficiencies of enhanced collaboration
1:00:20 and proximity and we wanted the proper
1:00:23 square footage and adequate parking that
1:00:25 would allow for for us to stay in
1:00:27 Issaquah frankly and to grow in place we
1:00:30 look at the city's goals just taking a
1:00:33 look at the adoption of the CIP clearly
1:00:37 the city was anticipating growth and
1:00:39 development so thoughtful thoughtful
1:00:43 densification of the of the urban area
1:00:46 was was really wise and prudent hence
1:00:49 the the implementation of the the CIP
1:00:52 and with that the development design
1:00:56 standards to implement the CIP and in an
1:00:59 urban way we applaud the city's goals to
1:01:03 enhance the public realm and to really
1:01:06 develop public pedestrian connections
1:01:08 all through the use of kind of well
1:01:12 coordinated and well thought-out design
1:01:14 standards that would help guide the
1:01:15 implementation of the city's objectives
1:01:18 so in that I think our we found a happy
1:01:21 medium and a and an overlap of of
1:01:25 intention so just to reiterate our goals
1:01:30 once again coming out of both Costco's
1:01:32 goals in the city's goals we've
1:01:34 identified our space needs we're trying
1:01:36 to create a dense high-performing
1:01:39 facility that that is inherently
1:01:41 efficient with mobility and connectivity
1:01:45 with the community and its vision with
1:01:49 all the synergies that that come from
1:01:51 that and if we do all of this right I
1:01:57 think we can measure our success by
1:02:00 having a project that really illustrates
1:02:02 quality and value to very very core
1:02:06 attributes of certainly Costco's
1:02:08 intention a project that's
1:02:10 forward-looking for both ourselves and
1:02:13 for the city of Issaquah a respect for
1:02:16 the design that really respects the
1:02:18 campus Conte
1:02:20 it's interesting because we have a we
1:02:22 have a kind of a traditional suburban
1:02:24 campus low-rise buildings with curved
1:02:27 linear streets and some beautiful
1:02:29 riparian natural environments yet we
1:02:32 also on the other hand have the intent
1:02:34 to create more of a urban vision of a
1:02:39 rectilinear streets close set backs so
1:02:42 this really represented an opportunity
1:02:44 to balance not competing constraints but
1:02:47 complementary constraints in a very
1:02:49 creative way as far as expanding the
1:02:52 campus
1:02:53 Costco's one one objective would be to
1:02:55 attract and retain quality talent and we
1:02:58 can do that by having a physical plant
1:03:02 the physical presence that really
1:03:05 respects its environment both urban and
1:03:08 rural all at the same time and we're
1:03:12 really trying to create both a
1:03:13 productive and an enjoyable work
1:03:15 environment if we do all these things
1:03:17 right I think we will have accomplished
1:03:18 our objectives so a little bit about the
1:03:22 development agreement we really
1:03:25 appreciated the all of the work that
1:03:27 went into it it it did in effect
1:03:30 streamline the entitlement process it
1:03:32 created a flexible framework for the
1:03:35 implementation of the SIDS
1:03:37 it allowed us to grow in place it
1:03:40 densifies in an urban way very
1:03:43 thoughtfully it provided for
1:03:45 infrastructure funding that supported
1:03:48 this planned growth and intentional
1:03:49 densification and it also had at its
1:03:52 core a commitment to sustainability it
1:03:55 was a tremendous mutual benefit for both
1:03:57 the city of Issaquah and the and the and
1:04:00 Costco Wholesale that would yield us a
1:04:03 million and a half square feet of new
1:04:04 commercial area and it would provide an
1:04:07 infrastructure funding mechanism to
1:04:09 support this planned growth and that is
1:04:13 the true essence of a partnership Costco
1:04:18 I sometimes joke that that Costco was
1:04:21 into sustainability before it was
1:04:22 fashionable and the reason why we do
1:04:25 that is because it makes sense it's not
1:04:27 an altruistic approach it makes sense it
1:04:30 makes economic sense it makes people
1:04:31 sense
1:04:33 I don't know if you know this but from a
1:04:34 corporate point of view Costco is one of
1:04:36 the largest private generators of power
1:04:38 we have well over a hundred photovoltaic
1:04:40 installations throughout the western
1:04:42 United States I think we generate nearly
1:04:46 10 million kilowatt hours of renewable
1:04:49 power a month or a year
1:04:55 everything from passive day lighting to
1:04:58 low water use tremendous commitment to
1:05:02 recycling greenhouse gas reductions
1:05:08 everything that we do in our supply
1:05:10 chain from from packaging to recycling
1:05:13 is all geared toward extraordinary
1:05:18 efficiencies and economy how that
1:05:23 translates into this project is all
1:05:26 right and we committed to it as a part
1:05:28 of exhibit K and the development
1:05:29 agreement we're gonna use less energy
1:05:32 we're going to have a compact
1:05:34 development and as you may know Costco
1:05:38 is probably the number one participant
1:05:41 in the county for its rideshare program
1:05:45 which reduces single occupancy trips as
1:05:49 it was as Jean mentioned earlier we're
1:05:51 targeting a equivalency to LEED Silver
1:05:55 elements will be included in the design
1:05:58 such as high efficiency heat recovery
1:06:00 public feedback displays photovoltaics
1:06:04 high r-value and even a target energy
1:06:08 use intensity of about 35 to up to 40
1:06:13 just to put that into perspective the
1:06:17 when you look at BU is for for Building
1:06:21 Code excuse me
1:06:27 I think we're looking at ranges that are
1:06:31 in the 50 to 60 range and you know
1:06:35 normal buildings built say throughout
1:06:38 Seattle over the last 10 years occur
1:06:40 into the 50 to 100 range
1:06:42 so our target on this project is to in
1:06:45 the 35 to 40 range I mentioned the less
1:06:49 water use and water monitoring we've
1:06:53 adopted throughout the chain and upon a
1:06:55 system that has individual sub metering
1:06:58 and we've saved literally millions of
1:07:01 gallons of water across the across the
1:07:03 world with the use of this with this use
1:07:06 of this system and of course commitments
1:07:08 to modern multi stream waste system as
1:07:11 well as low VOCs in all of our building
1:07:15 products so sustainability is in as an
1:07:17 important objective to us and it's
1:07:19 definitely going to be a huge aspect to
1:07:23 this particular project so what I'd like
1:07:25 to do now is kick it over to Steve have
1:07:28 them talk a little bit about planning
1:07:29 site constraints and design determinants
1:07:39 commissioners get to be in front of you
1:07:41 again I'm Steve Bullock of mg2 and just
1:07:44 want to spend a little bit of time
1:07:45 talking about the site you're somewhat
1:07:47 familiar with it but I want to reiterate
1:07:49 some things probably and maybe even show
1:07:51 you some things that you didn't realize
1:07:52 about it don't you use arrows there we
1:07:56 the as you can see by looking at it both
1:08:00 Lots are rather irregular in shape which
1:08:03 is never the easiest condition to start
1:08:06 with right each lot is is bounded by
1:08:11 buildings to the north existing
1:08:12 buildings that for now are going to be
1:08:14 staying each slot has roads on the south
1:08:19 side and then in between them so they're
1:08:21 bounded on two sides by roads and then
1:08:24 they're both bounded on therefore sides
1:08:25 by environmental features is a clock
1:08:28 creek to the east and in Pickering pond
1:08:30 to the west and and there's there's
1:08:33 views leaving the site in all directions
1:08:35 even even when we get high enough up
1:08:38 there will be use to the north out Lake
1:08:41 Sammamish which we're excited about
1:08:42 potentially being able to achieve you
1:08:46 know and another thing to look at here
1:08:50 is is adjacent to two Issaquah Creek and
1:08:54 you're all very familiar with it but it
1:08:56 floods from time to time the the red
1:08:59 dash line is identifying the floodplain
1:09:01 line and and you'll see the black dashed
1:09:04 line to the east of that is actually
1:09:07 where our property line is so so here's
1:09:11 our actual property line we're not
1:09:14 actually prohibited from building within
1:09:17 the within the floodplain but there's a
1:09:19 whole nother level of reviews and codes
1:09:23 that we have to comply with before we
1:09:25 can go into that part of our site we're
1:09:28 going to be encroaching slightly but for
1:09:29 the most part trying to stay out of it
1:09:31 there's there's a corner of our building
1:09:33 of the East Wing of our building that
1:09:36 that encroaches into it at the south end
1:09:39 and a little bit at the north end and
1:09:41 and we've had we're going to have to
1:09:43 demonstrate a number of different things
1:09:44 for city staff to get them to buy up on
1:09:48 that to make
1:09:48 sure that it's okay but we are for the
1:09:52 most part staying out of that floodplain
1:09:54 area but we absolutely do want to take
1:09:56 advantage of these views looking towards
1:09:59 Issaquah Creek looking towards the the
1:10:01 pond area and what could be a really
1:10:03 nice park like sitting there and then
1:10:05 obviously there's quiet the mountains to
1:10:08 the south and maybe the lake to the
1:10:10 north when we were kind of doing some
1:10:15 just programmatic diagramming of the
1:10:18 site you know just trying to identify
1:10:20 things and talk about them you know one
1:10:22 of the things that popped out to us as
1:10:24 Jean even mentioned is is that we've got
1:10:27 the service area here at the southeast
1:10:30 corner of building of the trading
1:10:32 building we've also got a service area
1:10:35 here at the South corner of building
1:10:38 three both of those service areas are
1:10:41 off of Lake Drive and and it would be
1:10:43 great if we could make them do double
1:10:46 duty have them perform as service areas
1:10:50 for each of these new buildings because
1:10:51 they would be back out of the way and
1:10:54 and that's also enforced by the fact
1:10:57 that the city city code the this CIP and
1:11:02 hence is really encourages an urban
1:11:06 development which is characterized by
1:11:08 buildings being located out close to the
1:11:10 street edge right and so having the
1:11:13 buildings which were symbolizing with
1:11:15 with the blue circles being shoved out
1:11:19 towards Lake Drive in 62nd gives us an
1:11:22 opportunity to to have the the building
1:11:25 area that we need get it out close to
1:11:27 the road and then we started looking at
1:11:29 some places that we might be able to
1:11:31 pick up some some community spaces and
1:11:33 some entry courts and and and we kind of
1:11:36 carried that on and started doing some
1:11:39 conceptual design work and and this plan
1:11:42 is a plan that we kind of came up with
1:11:45 and it's one of the early plans that we
1:11:47 brought and had a conversation with city
1:11:50 staff about and in this plan we were you
1:11:53 know trying to start to apply some of
1:11:55 the the codes that are are included in
1:11:58 the central Issaquah design
1:12:00 development standards for being close to
1:12:04 the street for providing active edges
1:12:07 but we're we were for the first time
1:12:09 kind of bringing up the idea that we're
1:12:11 weren't going to have an office building
1:12:12 on the the east side of lake there's
1:12:16 gonna be the west side of Lake Drive
1:12:18 after talking things over with Costco
1:12:21 they really felt like we were gonna need
1:12:22 to add to our parking count for it for
1:12:24 the campus and the way it runs for them
1:12:26 the the guests that they have the
1:12:27 employees that they're gonna have and so
1:12:29 that that was gonna this is the first
1:12:31 time that we shared with the city the
1:12:32 idea about having a just a fully parking
1:12:36 structure on that corner and and the
1:12:39 result of that conversation you know
1:12:40 they gave us a number of different
1:12:42 things to be thinking about that we
1:12:44 could continue to take back and design
1:12:45 on first being that you know they felt
1:12:49 like the building for which is here and
1:12:51 then on the east side was you know can
1:12:55 conceivably gonna be consistent with the
1:12:58 land plan that was approved with the
1:13:00 development agreement but we're gonna
1:13:01 need to focus on getting that building
1:13:03 close to the street making sure we're
1:13:05 complying with the the build to line
1:13:08 that we're complying with emphasizing
1:13:11 the building corners that we're creating
1:13:13 obvious entry areas and that there's
1:13:16 active spaces on that ground floor and
1:13:18 and and if that was the case and we
1:13:21 would potentially be able to get go
1:13:23 through an administrative process there
1:13:24 but for the garage because that wasn't
1:13:27 envisioned in the land plan we're gonna
1:13:29 that's going to require a full site
1:13:32 development permit review with the
1:13:33 development Commission and then the
1:13:36 biggest thing is is at least for us when
1:13:39 we were first talking about them is that
1:13:40 we needed to to kind of scrap the idea
1:13:42 of having parking on the first floor and
1:13:45 and figure out some different ways to to
1:13:47 be compliant with the this is standards
1:13:52 and you know and we talked quite a bit
1:13:56 about the through block connections
1:13:58 about having community spaces entry
1:14:01 plazas things like that and ultimately
1:14:03 we get to the the plan that's part of
1:14:07 our site development permit in front of
1:14:10 you now
1:14:11 and and you know now we have a set of
1:14:13 buildings that are pulled out to the to
1:14:17 the street in places where we couldn't
1:14:20 quite get to the the 10-foot we brought
1:14:23 the sidewalk to the face of buildings in
1:14:25 most cases to to make it feel like the
1:14:28 buildings right out you know it's a zero
1:14:30 lot line building or you know it's right
1:14:32 up to the street is because the
1:14:33 sidewalks there and in places where we
1:14:36 have landscape being incorporated in
1:14:39 that area was used to landscape and hard
1:14:42 scape is is used to direct and and move
1:14:46 people towards main entrances of the
1:14:47 buildings is to shape spaces and create
1:14:50 places and and not just you know throw
1:14:54 down someone and just call it a 15-foot
1:14:57 setback it's really designed to be
1:14:59 something that's purposeful that's
1:15:00 intentional and is is helping direct
1:15:03 people around and into and through
1:15:05 spaces and into buildings on the parking
1:15:09 garage you know we're doing things that
1:15:11 that whole first floor has been
1:15:13 completely reimagined from what we first
1:15:16 submitted to this city and and there's
1:15:19 an exhibition on the space in the north
1:15:21 wing that is really meant to give Costco
1:15:24 the ability for their buyers and their
1:15:26 vendors to get together to to look at
1:15:29 potential products that they may be
1:15:30 sewing it's it's a big enough space that
1:15:33 they can almost even outfit it like a
1:15:36 mini warehouse if they want to do that
1:15:39 and and just demonstrate products look
1:15:41 at them set it all up we think that it's
1:15:44 going to be a space that's in real high
1:15:45 demand for them and then on the south
1:15:47 end to provide an amenity space that
1:15:50 currently is envisioned as a as a
1:15:53 fitness center that the employees can
1:15:57 use and will be visible right out to the
1:15:59 public and and we'll show some activity
1:16:02 and and just energy
1:16:09 so there's there's a number of comments
1:16:13 that were that were just submitted today
1:16:17 and I think maybe we'll wait until after
1:16:19 we've heard any other comments that
1:16:21 might get raised tonight and then try to
1:16:24 address those all at one point in time
1:16:26 and and now I'll turn this over to
1:16:29 Shannon soos who has a really fun part
1:16:31 of talking about the design of the
1:16:33 buildings yeah I love my job
1:16:37 hi everybody I'm Shannon soos I'm a
1:16:40 senior designer at mg2 I've come on this
1:16:43 project fairly recently I'm only about
1:16:46 two years into it compared and flee to
1:16:48 the rest of the group here but taking
1:16:52 into accounts Jean presented really
1:16:56 fantastic backbone to where we're at and
1:16:59 what we've come up with and where we've
1:17:01 come I think what we're trying to do is
1:17:04 enhance and utilize all the things that
1:17:08 we've found in the city of this akua's
1:17:10 design guidelines we've had meetings
1:17:12 with them multiple times about how to
1:17:14 break the building down and keep the
1:17:18 scale the right size so what I've done
1:17:21 is kind of giving you a little bit of
1:17:23 background I kind of wanted to give you
1:17:25 a little bit about Costco's needs as
1:17:28 well because these are just some aspects
1:17:31 of what they are looking for in their
1:17:33 building as well things that also direct
1:17:38 us when we're shaping them massing a
1:17:40 building Costco they want to truly in
1:17:44 value what they are which is they're
1:17:47 efficient and they have great culture
1:17:50 and values for their people they're
1:17:52 smart and intentional they want spaces
1:17:54 that work for them so some of the new
1:17:57 things that were proposing that Steve
1:17:59 brought up which was this new flex space
1:18:01 is turned into a thing where they had a
1:18:05 spot in their campus that they would set
1:18:08 up large projects but by the city asking
1:18:11 for some public realm areas on the first
1:18:13 floor we found this great spot in the
1:18:16 parking garage to incorporate some of
1:18:18 their flexible and intentional needs
1:18:22 they want to be flexible for a changing
1:18:25 workforce so we're in creating areas
1:18:29 that are definitely public room spaces
1:18:31 and then spaces that they can flex and
1:18:33 change for their own needs
1:18:35 sustainability is always part of our
1:18:37 package we constantly in everything that
1:18:41 we do at MG to infuse these aspects to
1:18:45 it Costco is also a great workplace and
1:18:49 they have a lot of teaching programs
1:18:53 they have a sustainability group they
1:18:55 have a couple of other groups that they
1:18:56 have some conferences so you'll see on
1:18:59 our first floor we incorporated a
1:19:02 auditorium space which is mainly meant
1:19:04 to be a teaching facility where they can
1:19:06 break down and have classes and large
1:19:09 meeting groups where they can bring back
1:19:11 all their managers of course it's always
1:19:15 about the human and the partnership with
1:19:17 the people evolutionary in the building
1:19:20 facades the way we treated it and
1:19:23 healthy employees we adopted a work plan
1:19:27 of creating the building and the shape
1:19:30 that you saw it part of that was because
1:19:32 we wanted to day light the building
1:19:33 inside it was about the how the people
1:19:35 so you see the two buildings turning the
1:19:38 into those shapes in those two L's
1:19:41 shapes and it's also about how we tried
1:19:43 to keep the building narrow and keep the
1:19:45 light and keep people's relationships to
1:19:48 the trees and the outside as close as
1:19:50 possible so from a design narrative we
1:19:55 just kind of threw this in is you know
1:19:56 we are rooted in the northwest
1:19:59 Costco's read it here in Issaquah that's
1:20:01 very important to them keeping a
1:20:03 presence of their corporate campus but I
1:20:06 think the main line and this is it's a
1:20:09 design that infuses the natural
1:20:11 surroundings into the workplace building
1:20:13 designing and creating a warm inviting
1:20:15 and healthy environment it's about the
1:20:17 people and the health and creating
1:20:20 spaces that people flow out of the
1:20:22 building function
1:20:24 there's a thing efficiency is part of
1:20:27 Costco's goals so we're trying to be
1:20:31 purposeful in what we do we're not
1:20:33 putting things on the first floor or
1:20:34 places that don't make any sense or we
1:20:37 don't need them just to be saying but
1:20:39 we're putting retail down there well
1:20:40 we're not putting retail down there just
1:20:41 to put something on the floor store and
1:20:44 say it's not activated we're making them
1:20:46 activated spaces we want to be part of
1:20:50 the Northwest and the nature of the
1:20:52 space we sit up against a beautiful
1:20:56 river with great trees and there's this
1:21:01 kind of economy of having an urban edge
1:21:03 as well as a natural edge we're gonna
1:21:06 use that to our advantage in the facade
1:21:08 of the building as well sensible we want
1:21:12 lasting materials we want it to look
1:21:14 like it's been there for a while we want
1:21:15 it to relate to its sites we want it to
1:21:18 relate to the areas it's in and people
1:21:21 it's always about the humans I think
1:21:25 gene and them all kind of went through
1:21:26 this stuff makes my job a little easier
1:21:29 the main things that we really wanted to
1:21:31 point out is our first floor is bright
1:21:35 open and natural we have active street
1:21:38 frontage in terms of what we've placed
1:21:40 in those areas we've put the green parts
1:21:43 those are what we're considering cafes
1:21:47 and restaurants this will activate in
1:21:49 the morning and the afternoon in the
1:21:51 evening for the employees the blue zones
1:21:54 are meeting and an auditorium space an
1:21:58 interesting fact that there's a new
1:22:00 bridge they can't hear you so you need
1:22:04 to stay a microphone I like to move the
1:22:09 60 second bridge comes across and it's
1:22:12 actually quite high so we have a sloped
1:22:15 grade which is the reason why we kind of
1:22:17 put the auditorium to that side the side
1:22:21 on the river side is all the open glazed
1:22:24 system which you'll see in the
1:22:25 elevations we also have the through
1:22:28 block connection through the middle of
1:22:30 the building and this is why I said the
1:22:32 building is intentionally narrow in
1:22:36 it's width but lengthwise what we did is
1:22:41 kind of staggered it in order with this
1:22:44 site being curved you can't just place
1:22:46 the building without kinking it all the
1:22:48 way around so we did an intentional
1:22:49 slide and created the 67 West Plaza like
1:22:57 we said before level four we created a
1:23:00 sky bridge across the building and it's
1:23:04 called a sky bridge it through the
1:23:05 middle piece so we're trying to keep the
1:23:07 building as one building but because
1:23:09 it's longer at six hundred and
1:23:11 thirtysomething feet we can't have one
1:23:14 continuous long line so we broke the
1:23:16 building in the two parts
1:23:17 it also affects the elevation as well
1:23:20 the high level bridge is actually 30
1:23:23 feet off the ground at its highest point
1:23:25 so it feels very grand you're not going
1:23:28 to feel like you're being squished when
1:23:29 you're walking through it and the
1:23:30 skybridge connector to the other side is
1:23:34 mainly for the employees to come across
1:23:36 from the parking garage with minimal
1:23:38 impact of them crossing streets and
1:23:40 involving them with pedestrians we put
1:23:43 it in at level 4 which actually puts
1:23:46 that bridge at about 40 feet above the
1:23:49 road line so it's way high and the whole
1:23:52 purpose for that is to keep the views of
1:23:53 the mountains that was very intentional
1:23:55 as well as it comes in at the middle of
1:23:59 the building the building's nine stories
1:24:01 we come in at the middle we're doing
1:24:04 active cores as part of the keeping the
1:24:08 employees active in the ploys currently
1:24:11 we'll run the stairs of the parking
1:24:13 garage next door
1:24:14 they go out there as part of their
1:24:16 exercise program so we intentionally did
1:24:18 to feature Grand stairs in the building
1:24:20 to emphasize that but we put the
1:24:23 entrance at four so that they go up and
1:24:25 down it kind of encourages them to do
1:24:27 that over elevators level nine we're
1:24:31 just showing that we part of the
1:24:33 building tripartite system is to step
1:24:36 the building in so level nine actually
1:24:39 squishes on all sides and then we broke
1:24:42 it at the open rooftop terrace in the
1:24:45 middle
1:24:46 to intentionally come across as that we
1:24:49 have two different buildings not one
1:24:52 large building and then for level five
1:24:55 this is this is where we have the most
1:24:59 fun with you know normally we were
1:25:01 saying we just wanted to put a parking
1:25:02 garage in but because we want to have an
1:25:05 active front we found functions in
1:25:08 Costco's program that made us have the
1:25:11 ability to create spaces that activated
1:25:13 the front street lines gave reason why
1:25:16 we had plazas so the front piece is the
1:25:20 fitness center and there's an active
1:25:23 plaza to the front that spills out to it
1:25:26 and then the active street frontage on
1:25:29 the top where we've connected that North
1:25:31 Plaza in between building 3 we
1:25:33 intentionally we're trying not to a
1:25:35 block to many of these from building 3
1:25:38 create a plaza area that they would
1:25:40 spill out to but give Costco a reason
1:25:43 why they could use that whole entire
1:25:44 first floor not for parking but as a
1:25:47 public space and then at the top of the
1:25:51 building we as Jean showed you we're
1:25:54 providing PV panels part of the
1:25:59 interesting design part is that we're
1:26:00 using a speed ramp to get up at the
1:26:02 first floor so we are able to do a high
1:26:04 level 17 18 foot floor line and then we
1:26:09 go flat deck from there with
1:26:10 intermediate ramps so it kind of creates
1:26:13 more of an office building or a flat
1:26:16 plane across the frontage we didn't want
1:26:18 to have a lot of sloping ramp beam
1:26:21 systems going around so the building at
1:26:23 the top of the north is all flat so it
1:26:25 will it'll intentionally look from the
1:26:28 elevation as a building part of the
1:26:33 materials as we wanted to point out that
1:26:35 we're we're trying to be contextual with
1:26:39 what's existing on the campus so you're
1:26:41 looking at mainly our newest building
1:26:44 and the campus which is building 3 it's
1:26:46 the one that sits closest to building 5
1:26:48 and the parking lot you can see that it
1:26:50 has brick facade metal metal awnings
1:26:55 punched windows
1:26:58 so these are a lot of the features that
1:26:59 we are trying to incorporate when we got
1:27:01 to the new building the new building
1:27:03 though is nine stories this is three
1:27:05 stories so in order to do these feats
1:27:08 and not have it look a little awkward we
1:27:11 changed the scale or the materials in
1:27:13 certain areas but we kept the intention
1:27:15 of what this building looks and what one
1:27:18 and two look like next to it and then
1:27:20 these are just some materials just to
1:27:24 give you an idea that brick it was very
1:27:26 important so we used brick at the
1:27:27 baseline for people
1:27:30 we're using some vertical slat kind of
1:27:33 elements on the parking garage we have
1:27:36 some patterned glass awnings so
1:27:38 everywhere around the building there's
1:27:40 an awning system to keep people
1:27:41 protected when they're walking we're
1:27:44 using a curtain wall system for our main
1:27:48 we've worked intensively with rushing in
1:27:52 terms of how to do the energy for this
1:27:54 it is actually going to be a triple
1:27:56 plate paned building which is not rare
1:28:00 new it's actually been done in Europe
1:28:01 for many many years but not as frequent
1:28:05 in the Pacific Northwest yet it's on its
1:28:08 way within your building codes and then
1:28:12 we're doing some wood soffit to warm it
1:28:14 up and some pattern features so this is
1:28:17 kind of our first I guess you call it or
1:28:20 well-shot mainly what we're trying to
1:28:24 show here is we are gonna have this
1:28:26 tripartite building we are stepping it
1:28:29 back we're trying to articulate the
1:28:31 urban side with multiple three different
1:28:35 types of languages as Jean proposed we
1:28:38 have the bookends we have the lanterns
1:28:40 we have glass we have the step-back at
1:28:42 the top and this great opportunity where
1:28:45 we will be able to have views from the
1:28:47 rooftop out to Lake Sammamish to the
1:28:50 mountains to the lake into the ponds I
1:28:54 think another intentional thing we
1:28:57 hasn't been discussed yet is the parking
1:28:59 garage not only are we adding curtain
1:29:03 wall glazing to the corners to mimic the
1:29:05 lantern effect
1:29:07 that's occurring on the office building
1:29:08 we intentionally brought the scale down
1:29:10 by lowering the floor to floor Heights
1:29:12 because it is a parking garage we don't
1:29:14 need as much height in it so you can
1:29:16 definitely see how the parking garage
1:29:18 has dropped as it goes across the site
1:29:21 the building is intentional to look like
1:29:23 it's connected or part of the same
1:29:26 family but of course it's two different
1:29:29 functions this is looking from the view
1:29:36 coming down on 62nd and I'm just kind of
1:29:39 using the 3d views to kind of give you a
1:29:41 sense of what we were looking for we
1:29:44 have the bookends which will be done in
1:29:46 a metal the baseline is or the first
1:29:49 level of the tripartite is the brick
1:29:52 which you saw in the one view that gene
1:29:54 showed it's bringing the scale down in
1:29:56 that portion of the building because
1:29:59 it's set on the property line as part of
1:30:02 the street frontage a nine-story
1:30:05 building right up against the street
1:30:06 line tends to be fairly opposing so we
1:30:10 used the brick to the second or third
1:30:12 level we also did kind of this white
1:30:16 pattern textured panels and what we're
1:30:19 showing there is that we're actually
1:30:21 spanning the two levels per floor so
1:30:24 it's kind of a trick of breaking the
1:30:27 building down and give you the sense of
1:30:29 it's only a three storey but it's not
1:30:30 but you know and then setting the back
1:30:33 line and having roof overhangs so that
1:30:38 was the urban edge you saw it was a
1:30:39 little more solid on that side this side
1:30:42 is our Creekside Terrace view it's on
1:30:45 the nature side this side were
1:30:47 intentionally open up and using mostly
1:30:50 glass and other than a little bit of the
1:30:52 white textured panels where we want to
1:30:58 reflect the nature and we want to have
1:31:00 the most open views to nature on this
1:31:04 side and this is the kind of opposite of
1:31:06 the urban edge because of where it sits
1:31:12 through the three black piece you can
1:31:17 see that it's a 30-foot high open to the
1:31:21 floor so we're actually coming in at
1:31:23 level three on that and then it goes
1:31:25 only a few floors up from there the
1:31:28 brick facade the we have the metal
1:31:33 panels for the expression of punched
1:31:35 openings that kind of brings back that
1:31:36 punched opening from building three and
1:31:39 other buildings in the area but we're
1:31:41 using a different material type instead
1:31:43 of brick at the high level trying to
1:31:45 lighten the building as it goes up as as
1:31:47 opposed to doing a nine story brick
1:31:48 building which we felt had this heavy
1:31:51 quality instead of a lighter more modern
1:31:53 efficient building as we come around
1:31:59 we're coming across the front of the 90
1:32:02 and at the apex of where like drive and
1:32:07 62nd you're looking at the far right
1:32:10 side the lantern to the parking garage
1:32:13 and the high level of the sky bridge so
1:32:16 sky bridge is 40 feet from Road deck to
1:32:20 underside quite high which turns into a
1:32:24 structural challenge in itself but the
1:32:27 intention was so that we would see
1:32:29 through it and not have it as a blocking
1:32:32 mechanism as you come across the front
1:32:37 of the building now you're seeing a
1:32:40 little bit more of the parking garage
1:32:41 this is the fitness center in the lower
1:32:44 portion two story volume glass we're
1:32:47 doing a mezzanine or kind of taking
1:32:49 advantage of the front of the parking to
1:32:52 have a plaza we're using the bookend
1:32:54 metal panels with open punching and then
1:32:59 you can see the slats is a probably a
1:33:02 metal slat that's going to levels up
1:33:05 with screening we've added a concrete
1:33:08 line to mimic that to level part tide
1:33:11 aspect and then that's the drive through
1:33:14 on the one side
1:33:20 this is coming down like place you're
1:33:22 looking at the corner of the parking
1:33:26 garage
1:33:26 this lower pieces like we said is trying
1:33:29 to lower the scale for the people it
1:33:32 gives this two-story volume effect to
1:33:36 the function flex space this is where
1:33:39 they're going to use it for everything
1:33:41 from product displays to gathering
1:33:42 events it spills out into the plaza so
1:33:46 we're encouraging walking from the two
1:33:49 buildings down the side we did
1:33:52 intentionally use the brick all the way
1:33:54 up it sits right next to the building
1:33:55 three it will be very complementary to
1:33:58 the building as well as you see the back
1:34:02 panels the slats ride through so that's
1:34:05 kind of a one element and then there's a
1:34:07 back panel inside there's these lines
1:34:10 that are behind the screen those are
1:34:13 intentionally used to block the light of
1:34:15 cars at night so we will have a
1:34:19 consistent light glow from the building
1:34:21 without having these light bleed outs
1:34:24 from cars driving through and then off
1:34:26 to the far side you can kind of see how
1:34:28 that one Lantern starts to connect the
1:34:30 office building and then we come to the
1:34:38 the end and really what the building is
1:34:41 about when we talk about connection to
1:34:44 the existing campus this is kind of the
1:34:47 view of the training building is the
1:34:49 kind of ghosted one on the side you're
1:34:51 coming down Lake Place you kind of have
1:34:54 this warm glow at night of the Flex base
1:34:57 and the parking garage but intentionally
1:35:00 what we really want people to kind of
1:35:02 see is they come around the corner and
1:35:03 the way this built this road turns is
1:35:06 the lantern to the entry which is the
1:35:09 main entrance to the building the warm
1:35:11 glow of the plaza how the building kind
1:35:14 of tucks and steps around and creates
1:35:17 this kind of capturing moment and you
1:35:20 can kind of see through and you see the
1:35:22 mountains at beyond so the focal points
1:35:26 the lantern edges
1:35:28 and the vistas to the mountains
1:35:30 emphasizing the curves with that I just
1:35:35 wanted to thank you all for your time we
1:35:37 have everyone here available for
1:35:40 questions I hopefully give you enough
1:35:42 insight into some of the design aspects
1:35:46 as we move forward thank you very much
1:35:53 it's been really a couple of great
1:35:56 presentations and so I think at this
1:35:57 point the best thing to do would be to
1:35:59 open the opportunity for any members the
1:36:02 public that wish to speak to speak and
1:36:05 then I'd recommend we probably take a
1:36:07 five minute break just to stand up and
1:36:10 get blood circulating again and no I
1:36:13 could use it so how about are there
1:36:16 members of the public who wish to speak
1:36:18 then if you would wish to speak I'd
1:36:21 appreciate you signing in and then when
1:36:23 you go to stock if you would tell us
1:36:26 your name
1:36:43 David Kapler the speaking is my an
1:36:50 individual tonight and then as Issaquah
1:36:53 helps trails club a vice president for
1:36:55 advocacy I'll start with that
1:36:57 I sent late this afternoon a letter did
1:37:01 the commissioners get that great okay so
1:37:05 that just stressing the retention of
1:37:09 trees especially on parcel for the trail
1:37:15 there is really it is part of the
1:37:18 transportation system but the people
1:37:21 that are really traveling north-south is
1:37:24 a transportation trail we'll be using
1:37:27 these Lake Sammamish trail which has
1:37:30 been closed for a long time especially
1:37:32 when Sammamish eventually let's the
1:37:36 county finish the trail to the north and
1:37:38 get to paved the serious bicyclists that
1:37:41 are going over i-90 up to Kenmore and
1:37:43 further and then back around making the
1:37:46 big loop and and others that are even
1:37:48 just going to Redmond are going to be on
1:37:50 that so there's still be bikes on that
1:37:51 trail but it's definitely and you see it
1:37:55 now already there's a lot of badges
1:37:57 people with badges walk in that trail
1:37:58 they're not trying to get somewhere else
1:38:00 on the campus necessarily of Costco they
1:38:03 are just enjoying walking in on that
1:38:06 trail which has got quite a few nice
1:38:08 trees growing I do make a pitch about
1:38:11 the concerns about cottonwood trees or
1:38:13 other trees that end up wrecking the
1:38:16 pavement causing tripping hazards and
1:38:19 costs and cottonwood trees not herve
1:38:24 agrees with me but having seen a very
1:38:26 large branch come off of and cottonwood
1:38:29 tree for no apparent reason is and I
1:38:32 know it's an issue out there they are
1:38:34 not a tree that we need to encourage
1:38:37 there but we do want to have native
1:38:39 trees we also have to recognize the
1:38:42 watering needs and the rest of trees and
1:38:44 climate change I know the mountain sound
1:38:48 Greenway is looking at reforestation
1:38:51 restoration projects and they're
1:38:52 thinking more about trees that are more
1:38:54 friendly to exist
1:38:55 climate in Oregon Western Oregon then
1:38:58 Western Washington and that's just any
1:39:01 way we want to have trees that do not
1:39:03 require high maintenance cause problems
1:39:05 will require lots of water once they're
1:39:09 established the back over on the parking
1:39:16 garage area like that trail there which
1:39:21 is on the south end of the ponds on the
1:39:24 east side of the pond has been with
1:39:28 covered with water drainage forever I
1:39:31 thought when Costco bought the site from
1:39:34 the original owners there they might fix
1:39:36 that but it's still at least the last
1:39:38 time I was there it's a terrible
1:39:40 situation with like wet water coming
1:39:45 over the trail of course if when the
1:39:46 winter or even more with that so
1:39:48 hopefully there's going to be some
1:39:50 drainage improvements that are tied in
1:39:52 with the the parking garage but we also
1:39:56 going to lose potential vegetation when
1:39:58 they do the solving the problem
1:40:00 hopefully of the water across the trail
1:40:02 so there's hopefully that's going to be
1:40:04 thought out and make that trail a much
1:40:07 more usable and safer part of our
1:40:11 recreational trail system as well as
1:40:13 part of into enteric AMPAS
1:40:17 transportation system the lantern on
1:40:26 building for one of them looked like it
1:40:29 was at the northeast corner of that
1:40:32 building or the very eastern very
1:40:34 eastern part of the building at the
1:40:35 north that seems like it's closer to the
1:40:38 trail in the woods and the open space
1:40:41 over there I didn't maybe I didn't
1:40:43 understand the drawing the sky bridge is
1:40:47 I hope they're going to figure out a way
1:40:48 so they ventilate them and not because
1:40:51 they're gonna be so there's gonna be a
1:40:54 huge heat just the poor little crummy
1:40:58 greenhouse I have with the door open
1:41:00 this summer was unbearably hot and just
1:41:03 been those kind of those sky bridges are
1:41:06 just which is cool that they're all
1:41:09 but they are a greenhouse and I hope
1:41:11 they figure out to have a lot of natural
1:41:14 venting of those some just to make them
1:41:16 more comfortable and not be energy
1:41:19 requiring lots of energy to to cool them
1:41:23 down or deal with that hot air coming
1:41:26 into the buildings back from my earlier
1:41:30 days on the council I was working we
1:41:31 deal with Costco on the recycling issue
1:41:35 and Corp and what happens at the back
1:41:39 end of the store the warehouse store I
1:41:42 think is very good but the general
1:41:46 public that interfaces with Costco at
1:41:48 the food court would have no idea that
1:41:51 they're actually quite good at recycling
1:41:55 overall but I would hope they could get
1:41:59 that as part of this whole thing and
1:42:01 making sure that the recycling is really
1:42:04 obvious to visitors to the building and
1:42:07 to employees putting on just a citizen
1:42:15 hat not as coops Trails Club and that is
1:42:18 perhaps you've already received some
1:42:20 information about the concern we all
1:42:23 have especially residents south of town
1:42:25 have about the 55
1:42:28 I mean 55,000 yards of material that
1:42:33 could be exported from this side that's
1:42:38 5,000 you know regular truck dump truck
1:42:41 loads there's also going to be material
1:42:44 brought in apparently to some degree
1:42:46 because some of the site has will need
1:42:49 the only better better material
1:42:53 personally living a block of Amarna
1:42:57 block that way and my brother having a
1:42:59 building on east sunset I've benefited
1:43:02 tremendously by the city banning the
1:43:05 trucks from Newport front street in the
1:43:11 sunset but when we've done that we are
1:43:13 really putting a huge burden on the
1:43:16 rural residents south of town especially
1:43:18 in May Valley Road
1:43:20 it's a crazy road as it is connecting
1:43:22 Hobart is aqua Road in 900 and it's we
1:43:26 do not need to be sending more trucks
1:43:28 full of dirt speeding on that road there
1:43:32 has been an agreement on the Bergsma so
1:43:34 far that they will use i-90 and have
1:43:37 some other way of dealing with their
1:43:41 80,000 potential cubic yards of material
1:43:44 excess material from their site thank
1:43:48 you for the opportunity
1:43:59 good evening I'm Hart Sugarman I'm a
1:44:02 resident of Issaquah for 23 years and
1:44:05 I've jotted down some notes as I watched
1:44:08 the presentation this evening
1:44:10 Yasuko has experienced unprecedented
1:44:12 growth over the past several years due
1:44:15 to all the development that has taken
1:44:17 place
1:44:17 traffic has a big impact on the
1:44:20 community one intersection that needs to
1:44:23 be addressed sooner than later is the
1:44:27 intersection of 17th Avenue and 12th
1:44:29 Avenue with the Holiday Inn located at
1:44:32 the southeast corner my specific request
1:44:35 is to add a right turn only lane from
1:44:39 northbound 17th Avenue to enter 12th
1:44:42 Avenue to facilitate the ingress many of
1:44:46 you might know that intersection as you
1:44:47 approach the City Hall Northwest as
1:44:51 shown in tonight's slide the ratio of
1:44:54 parking stalls per 1000 is decreasing
1:44:57 this is a concern the city and the state
1:45:01 should also look at constructing a
1:45:04 bridge across i-90 connecting Lake Drive
1:45:07 on the North to Maple Avenue on the
1:45:09 south side this will significantly
1:45:12 assist with the current traffic
1:45:14 congestion experienced on East Lake
1:45:16 Sammamish Northwest Sammamish Road and
1:45:19 17th Avenue my license my last item is
1:45:23 related to community in this slide
1:45:26 presentation tonight we see a community
1:45:29 pass through area whereby residents can
1:45:31 walk through the new Costco development
1:45:34 from the east to the west or vice versa
1:45:36 however today if I'm walking or biking
1:45:40 along the trail of the Creek I cannot
1:45:43 get over to Lake Drive there are signs
1:45:47 posts that say no trespassing and I
1:45:49 think Costco should allow someone to be
1:45:51 able to pass through the property today
1:45:54 as a community goodwill one suggestion
1:46:01 for the architects and Costco for the
1:46:03 new construction maybe it's already
1:46:04 being considered I might have missed
1:46:05 this point but to put in a rooftop
1:46:08 terrace on top of this buildings to
1:46:11 allow the employees of
1:46:12 go to have their lunch coffee breaks or
1:46:16 just relaxation time the views from that
1:46:19 area the vistas are stunning it's a
1:46:22 spectacular view from that height so I
1:46:24 think that'd be a really nice advantage
1:46:26 for the employees thank you very much
1:46:40 hi I'm Connie Marsh I live on squawk so
1:46:47 Costco Costco is sustainable except for
1:46:53 in the environment in which they're
1:46:55 building they are using potentially
1:46:58 reasonable building techniques but
1:47:01 they're filling the floodplain and they
1:47:03 don't even want to replant the trees
1:47:05 that they're taking it out so it is hard
1:47:08 for me to fathom that you can say you're
1:47:15 trying to emulate the nature of the
1:47:18 Pacific Northwest when you're beating
1:47:20 the bejesus out of this parcel when
1:47:23 you're looking at the impacts to
1:47:25 Pickering Creek I fail to understand why
1:47:29 they need to fill the floodplain and
1:47:32 then we have a secondary note flood
1:47:35 hazard special flood hazard areas are a
1:47:38 part of our critical areas chapter and
1:47:42 they're part of SEPA and I do not
1:47:45 believe that they are in the planned
1:47:47 action ordinance and this means you
1:47:49 would see but does not suffice and you
1:47:53 would need to have a SEPA decision on
1:47:56 the flood hazard now it might just be a
1:48:00 condition saying that they must apply
1:48:03 with chapter 16 that deals with flood
1:48:06 hazard areas but you can't make a
1:48:08 decision until your sefa is completed
1:48:12 and I don't know how that we can
1:48:15 understand how that building is going to
1:48:18 be put in place without knowing what
1:48:20 they're going to have to do to provide
1:48:22 the compensatory detention that you need
1:48:24 when you fill in a flood hazard area and
1:48:27 it's just missing that flood hazard area
1:48:32 fill is a large part of the reason that
1:48:34 they want to take all the trees out
1:48:36 adjacent to the Pickering trail leaving
1:48:39 Pickering trail reasonably denuded the
1:48:43 Overlook that they're talking about from
1:48:45 their building is raised up so it
1:48:50 doesn't interface with the trails
1:48:52 so and I'm going to repeat this for both
1:48:56 buildings well the people who are
1:49:00 working at Costco are gonna be happiest
1:49:04 clamps because who wouldn't they get all
1:49:07 the benefits the people who live in the
1:49:10 town and walk Pickering trail are losing
1:49:14 and that is not a part of the central
1:49:17 Issaquah plan it is supposed to be
1:49:20 augmenting the community features - and
1:49:23 we all know that Costco is not open for
1:49:29 the public it's a condition in their
1:49:32 development agreement so these areas
1:49:34 that they're talking about for to be
1:49:36 community open spaces are not for you
1:49:38 and I that is for their workers so I
1:49:44 think we need a little balance there I
1:49:46 think we need the trees to put that be
1:49:49 either taking win then put back against
1:49:53 Pickering or just leave them how they
1:49:56 are certainly the conditions should not
1:49:59 be to give the ability to put money into
1:50:04 a tree fund so that those trees could be
1:50:06 planted elsewhere I asked about the tree
1:50:09 fund they do not seem to track the tree
1:50:12 fund by location and even though the
1:50:14 central Issaquah plan says that those
1:50:16 trees when you be planted in the central
1:50:18 is quite area we don't have a mechanism
1:50:21 to do so so now I'm going to skip over
1:50:24 to the other side and it's basically the
1:50:26 same conversation you have the community
1:50:30 trail that goes around the Pickering
1:50:33 pond and right now it's sort of a gentle
1:50:36 slant with trees and you walk around
1:50:39 that corner and yes you may slip but you
1:50:42 are in nature then you go up a little
1:50:45 bit and there's a bit of a retaining
1:50:46 wall if you look at their plans they are
1:50:49 putting a retaining wall up and more
1:50:52 fill they're basically putting the trail
1:50:55 into an armpit of more shadow and yes it
1:51:00 is delightful from up on top of that
1:51:03 retaining wall if you work for Costco
1:51:06 you get to look at the people down there
1:51:07 in the armpit and you get to look at the
1:51:10 ponds but the central is a quat area is
1:51:13 for all of us and you cannot allow a
1:51:16 development to impact a community
1:51:19 benefit like the Pickering pond trail
1:51:22 and so if a condition was added saying
1:51:27 that the Pickering pond trail needed to
1:51:30 be improved and made better for the
1:51:33 community even as they fill or do what
1:51:37 they need to do I don't have too much of
1:51:39 a problem with them doing whatever they
1:51:44 want to do I'm not a fan of the
1:51:46 buildings got a say but you can see the
1:51:51 environmental side I'm coming from here
1:51:53 you don't need to clear it that much I
1:51:56 don't understand the filling and why
1:51:57 they need to move that much dirt and
1:51:59 don't impact the two trails on either
1:52:02 end for goodness sakes your Costco you
1:52:05 can do it you can make the town better
1:52:07 and your kin and your your company
1:52:10 better you just have to take that next
1:52:13 thank you
1:52:18 any other members the public wish to
1:52:20 speak so we'll close the public portion
1:52:26 of this public open will close the
1:52:29 public hearing part of this puppet is
1:52:30 the public public comment period and I
1:52:33 would suggest we take a break until 9
1:52:36 o'clock so get back
2:00:21 okay I think we're back on air and I
2:00:24 would encourage everybody it's welcome
2:00:27 you back and we'll start the session I'd
2:00:30 like to have the commissioners address
2:00:32 their comments on building four or their
2:00:35 their questions first and then comments
2:00:37 on building four then we'll do questions
2:00:39 and comments on building five so
2:00:43 starting with building four questions
2:00:46 first
2:00:47 commissioners chairman have a question
2:00:55 great
2:00:56 this may apply to both buildings we have
2:00:59 a geotechnical study for the site and it
2:01:03 noted the soils on the site or subject
2:01:05 to liquefaction during seismic events in
2:01:08 the CEPA checklist I think it stated the
2:01:11 building's will be supported by a pile
2:01:13 foundation system but I'm wondering
2:01:16 about the skybridge do we have any
2:01:17 special concerns for safety regarding
2:01:20 that skybridge and are we confident that
2:01:24 any of the standards and requirements
2:01:27 that we reference in our document air
2:01:30 sufficiently apply to sky bridges in
2:01:32 that case are you looking for us to
2:01:39 answer that we'd be happy to you know
2:01:44 we're gonna be clean we use yourself
2:01:46 first I'm sorry Steve Bullock with mg2
2:01:49 Thanks
2:01:50 we have a structural engineer as part of
2:01:54 our team and they've already been
2:01:56 looking at this and and they will have
2:01:58 to submit substantial justification with
2:02:02 the building department as we as we go
2:02:04 through the permitting process at this
2:02:05 point in time the the skybridge is not
2:02:08 going to have any column supports going
2:02:11 down to the ground it's going to be
2:02:12 fully supported by one of the buildings
2:02:15 it's going to have a sliding connection
2:02:19 I'm sorry which building is just like on
2:02:22 the office side so it's going to be
2:02:23 fixed on the garage side which is a
2:02:26 concrete building and the end that
2:02:29 projects into the office building will
2:02:31 slide to accommodate the difference of
2:02:35 movement between them but everything
2:02:37 we're hearing from our structural
2:02:38 engineer so far is that it's going to be
2:02:40 acceptable and that's including the
2:02:43 concerns with liquefaction another one
2:02:54 like to say it's really encouraging to
2:02:56 see a number of sustainability features
2:02:58 that are built into the plan a couple of
2:03:02 comments or questions minor ones related
2:03:04 to that the trellis is on top well will
2:03:07 any of that be planted vegetated I'm
2:03:10 going for a little green roof there or
2:03:11 is that for solar cell only right now
2:03:14 it's just for solar cell and aesthetic
2:03:16 purposes only no plans to introduce any
2:03:19 greenery on the roof port for the
2:03:22 parking garage hi Jackie Frank I was
2:03:25 just going to qualify that that's
2:03:28 correct
2:03:28 the the trellis and pretend and
2:03:31 photovoltaic will be for the garage but
2:03:33 we do have and we can pull up the roof
2:03:35 plan again for the office building
2:03:37 there's quite a quite a bit of a
2:03:39 potential landscape area at the at the
2:03:43 top okay Barry okay another related
2:03:46 question are any of the windows I guess
2:03:49 this is the right building right in
2:03:52 building four I'm going to be operable
2:03:54 or is that all sealed window a thing
2:03:57 about a little healthy building aspect
2:03:58 there right they're all sealed windows
2:04:01 we had we've had a number of
2:04:03 conversations related to that with our
2:04:05 MEP sustainability expert and and we're
2:04:08 considering having some operable windows
2:04:11 some of the difficulties that we have
2:04:14 with it is I 90 to the South is a huge
2:04:17 noise generator and and just the the
2:04:22 climate that we're in we and and the
2:04:26 mechanical system that we're proposing
2:04:28 will have better modulation of the whole
2:04:33 building by having them be completely
2:04:36 fixed
2:04:39 just one final wine if I may the Google
2:04:43 Earth renditions on sheets 40 and 41 in
2:04:46 some of those the buildings appear
2:04:48 pretty stark black unlike some of the
2:04:51 other renditions the architecture
2:04:52 architectural renditions was that just
2:04:56 kind of a convention of the Google Earth
2:05:00 illustrations and do you expect the
2:05:02 colors of those triple pane windows to
2:05:06 be lighter so you're referring to these
2:05:09 images right here right right and and a
2:05:13 lot of that is is because we don't have
2:05:15 a lot of control in the Google Earth
2:05:18 model we're able to create a model and
2:05:21 drop it in but then they start rendering
2:05:23 what some of the materials look like and
2:05:26 we don't have control at that point so
2:05:27 it is much darker than we expected that
2:05:30 was the case yeah okay Thank You
2:05:35 commissioners well this is when he asked
2:05:37 about
2:05:46 so a question about the through block
2:05:51 passage that moves between the trading
2:05:55 building and building or and there's a
2:05:57 condition that is included in the staffs
2:06:01 recommendations here condition three
2:06:04 that talks about prioritization of the
2:06:07 pedestrians and putting in place some
2:06:09 kind of traffic calming or things that
2:06:11 provide a kind of a safer environment
2:06:16 for pedestrians have you given thought
2:06:18 to how you're going to accomplish that
2:06:19 that's a fairly large space that you're
2:06:23 going to cross that's active with large
2:06:25 vehicles I'm you talking about this side
2:06:32 trading that right passage and and so
2:06:36 one of the things that I guess I'd like
2:06:37 to give you a little bit of background
2:06:40 with is the the photo that you saw
2:06:43 earlier of the trading building loading
2:06:45 dock you saw that those were garage
2:06:47 doors right and normally what happens
2:06:49 there is the garage door is open and the
2:06:52 trucks actually drive inside the
2:06:53 building in the garage doors close they
2:06:57 don't sit out there in that loading dock
2:07:00 the voting actually happens inside the
2:07:02 building and so we are we're considering
2:07:06 the number of different things for
2:07:08 signing striping using different
2:07:11 material whatever it is to emphasize the
2:07:14 pedestrian crossing in that zone
2:07:17 we haven't you know gotten to a final
2:07:20 solution on that is that that's a trail
2:07:22 connection yes from back across that's
2:07:25 correct yeah so the trucks that are
2:07:32 accessing that building are they full
2:07:33 tractor trailer no any smaller those are
2:07:36 steps step vans okay full tractor
2:07:40 trailer there's a separate loading dock
2:07:42 over here on this side of the building
2:07:44 but the ones that are here are smaller
2:07:46 step bands not trailers okay and that
2:07:49 helps to I think everything I've heard
2:07:52 is one to two trips a day at this out
2:07:55 the end
2:07:56 so it's not a high-traffic your eye exam
2:08:00 thank you
2:08:02 that's a follow-up question if you don't
2:08:05 mind this would go into building five
2:08:07 but since we're talking about that
2:08:08 excuse me the east-west yeah cross
2:08:11 through your thoughts on the staff
2:08:14 suggestion about moving that from the
2:08:18 north to the south side of the under
2:08:19 building and because they think staffer
2:08:21 was recognizing there's problems either
2:08:23 what either way
2:08:25 yeah and you know I don't know that we
2:08:29 want to get in a big fight about it we
2:08:31 had a discussion we thought it was
2:08:33 better on the north side because it got
2:08:35 you past most of the traffic before you
2:08:37 crossed over at the same time if you're
2:08:40 on the south side you you might have to
2:08:42 cross more traffic being the cars that
2:08:45 are entering into the the parking garage
2:08:47 ramp but then you are avoiding the
2:08:50 driveway where the trucks are driving it
2:08:54 can go either way
2:08:55 and we're okay with the condition as
2:08:59 they have it written right now yeah yeah
2:09:01 Jackie Frank but Lizzie and Jane and I
2:09:04 met about this recently and the way the
2:09:07 condition is written we're actually
2:09:09 going we intend to have a sidewalk on
2:09:11 both sides on the north and the south
2:09:13 side but the intention is to make the
2:09:15 southerly one slightly wider
2:09:27 other questions on building for mom I'll
2:09:30 jump in the horse under one of my big
2:09:35 concerns is that blank wall the
2:09:36 southeast corner building for you
2:09:41 mentioned that the elevation difference
2:09:43 with the roadway in the sidewalk but I
2:09:45 haven't seen anything where I can
2:09:47 identify exactly what that elevation
2:09:51 difference is do you have anything that
2:09:54 would show that or do we know what that
2:09:57 that number is I do I mean
2:10:11 this is a grading plan
2:10:21 resumed weigh-in so the finished floor
2:10:24 this building is set at 64 and here you
2:10:29 see on this sidewalk and catch basin at
2:10:33 69 so at this point let's see here I
2:10:42 don't know he's is that is that the rim
2:10:45 of the catch basin
2:10:47 that's the sidewalk elevation so we're
2:10:50 you know five feet above it the sidewalk
2:10:53 is five feet above the finished floor of
2:10:54 the building right here and then and
2:10:57 then how far is that sidewalk from that
2:10:59 corner that as close as you're showing
2:11:04 right there it is you know that's that's
2:11:07 five feet that built to line says we're
2:11:12 supposed to be within ten feet
2:11:18 a question I guess for staff speaking in
2:11:24 that same corner the section eleven
2:11:29 point two point II talks about a sense
2:11:33 of arrival and in the staff report
2:11:36 there's a discussion about a sense of
2:11:38 arrival with the lanterns between
2:11:41 buildings four and five it seems like
2:11:44 that there's a huge number of people
2:11:47 coming from the east and from the south
2:11:49 that are going to their arrival into
2:11:51 this district which is the way it's
2:11:53 worded is once you come across 62nd and
2:11:58 you this is the first point you would
2:12:00 come into the urban core district that
2:12:03 will be the sense of arrival right there
2:12:05 and I don't really see anything that
2:12:08 talks about or indicates sense of
2:12:11 arrival at this location and wondered
2:12:14 about your thoughts on that both the
2:12:18 blank wall issue these address but also
2:12:22 the the I'll start the blank wall will
2:12:29 be buried five feet down so I think that
2:12:32 does help and we have talked that with
2:12:35 Costco that the the way that is shown in
2:12:42 the plans is kind of a preliminary I
2:12:44 mean they recognize that those walls
2:12:47 needed further attention and agree that
2:12:50 that was a planned refinement I think
2:12:56 that the question of arrival is you're
2:13:00 right that corner needs at every corner
2:13:03 that sort of exposed present needs to be
2:13:11 detailed and visually strong but I'm not
2:13:20 sure that necessarily the roundabout
2:13:24 isn't the arrival point it's the you
2:13:28 know the edge of something can be the
2:13:30 arrival point or it
2:13:32 be the intersections so I think they
2:13:34 have chosen a different arrival point
2:13:37 the pre arrival point is I don't know if
2:13:44 you have something you want either if
2:13:46 you would like to add I think Shannon I
2:13:49 wanted to address it a little bit too
2:13:51 first of all on on the blank wall you
2:13:53 know we're still at a point where we
2:13:56 felt like we needed to get some kind of
2:13:58 feedback from you guys that we're going
2:13:59 the right direction so we haven't gotten
2:14:01 to our endgame as far as the design and
2:14:04 especially with the brickwork you know
2:14:06 we plan to have soldier core seen reveal
2:14:09 lines plan to build things into to make
2:14:13 it interesting not have it just be a
2:14:15 sink a solid blank field of brick all
2:14:19 running bond no change to that so I
2:14:22 think that there there are going to be
2:14:24 things in that wall that give it a
2:14:27 ditional detail that give it a little
2:14:28 interest that that help address some of
2:14:31 the concerns Shannon wanted to talk
2:14:33 about the sense of arrival I believe
2:14:35 Shannon second yeah we did talk about
2:14:38 the the wall also adding a planter that
2:14:41 kind of raises it so we're already
2:14:43 coming up five feet and then adding
2:14:45 another level of landscape so we're
2:14:47 minimizing that just dead wall back
2:14:50 there and I think I did I wanted to
2:14:52 point out that coming across the bridge
2:14:54 we've done fly throughs which we plan to
2:14:58 show at the next meeting because there's
2:15:01 a lot of entourage that goes into making
2:15:03 it look right on all sides but when you
2:15:05 come across the bridge here
2:15:15 you have to be near the microphone you
2:15:20 come around the corner with that that
2:15:24 metal wall piece the the bookend is
2:15:26 actually helping kind of direct you
2:15:28 around the corner as you come across
2:15:30 this bridge okay can you talk more about
2:15:32 when you say that's going to be a
2:15:33 lantern Corner well I understood with
2:15:37 the others where they're sort of a calm
2:15:38 like a staircase or something and I'm
2:15:40 not sure I understand on that corner
2:15:41 well we're treating kind of the corners
2:15:44 that are focal points from certain
2:15:47 vantage points so we see as you come
2:15:49 across this bridge that the first thing
2:15:51 you see across that bridge is kind of
2:15:53 this end piece and red lantern we call
2:15:56 it a Lantern effect you main link is
2:15:58 what we put inside the space we're
2:16:01 planning on it being like a meeting room
2:16:03 or something that we can actually
2:16:04 control the light and keep a constant
2:16:06 level now we can dim the lights we've
2:16:08 talked to our lighting designers about
2:16:10 which type of light how do we light it
2:16:12 it can be a consistent light source you
2:16:17 know most office buildings at five
2:16:18 o'clock are going to go fairly dark and
2:16:21 dim so we were kind of planning lighting
2:16:24 on the building from the outside to kind
2:16:26 of up light it in certain areas and then
2:16:28 have these kind of focal points at the
2:16:31 corners as corner emphasis here at the
2:16:35 main entry and then the corner at the
2:16:38 roundabout there's the four main
2:16:40 locations where we kind of will maintain
2:16:43 a consistent lighting system at night
2:16:46 thank you in looking at the language
2:16:49 which always helps I think that one of
2:16:54 the things to consider is that the
2:16:58 building may not be the the point of
2:17:01 arrival as much as crossing the bridge
2:17:04 because the the bridges has some nice
2:17:09 details and sort of syncopation as you
2:17:11 go across it and then you're coming
2:17:13 across the bridge and arriving in in the
2:17:16 district so well I'm not saying that the
2:17:20 building isn't a part of that I think
2:17:22 the question may be about the elements
2:17:24 between
2:17:25 that are happening along with building
2:17:29 between the building and the bridge that
2:17:31 give that sense of arrival and I would
2:17:35 say that I don't know exactly what those
2:17:37 are right now so I need to spend some
2:17:39 time I think we need to go back and look
2:17:40 at that relative to that piece of code
2:17:43 you identified right thank you it sounds
2:17:46 like you're looking at it too is it
2:17:48 and for a lot of people it's gonna be
2:17:49 it's a gonna be a big building and
2:17:52 you're gonna drive on and people are
2:17:53 saying wow that's the Costco
2:17:54 headquarters that'll be their view of it
2:17:56 right there see that if you don't mind
2:18:04 me keep going going the question on the
2:18:08 build to line for building for so is
2:18:16 when we were doing the osco master site
2:18:21 plan the build two line when the road
2:18:23 was curvilinear was quite the issue and
2:18:26 trying to maintain the view of the
2:18:28 mountains and I'm glad it got
2:18:30 straightened out and does have a great
2:18:33 and I know that it's written such that
2:18:36 the buildings don't have to be curved to
2:18:39 meet a curvilinear Street but everything
2:18:44 I read and the code says it's supposed
2:18:46 to be a bill to line if it can be and I
2:18:51 look out the east half of building for
2:18:54 that set back quite a ways that a at an
2:18:57 angle it could very easily be moved up
2:19:00 to be closer to the bill to line and I
2:19:02 think the requirements I think you need
2:19:07 to be c11 built in the that's 11.0 not
2:19:17 sure if it's 11 zero but the minimum
2:19:19 building frontage the sufficient length
2:19:21 of building shall be present the bill to
2:19:23 line minimum building frontage shall be
2:19:25 at least 75% in the urban core so when I
2:19:29 look at building for if I do just Lake
2:19:32 Drive or if I do just sixty second I get
2:19:34 thirty eight percent in the bill to
2:19:36 I include Lake Drive and Du Bois streets
2:19:39 I get fifty three percent bill two so I
2:19:42 think well it seems like we're we're
2:19:45 saying the built in line is important we
2:19:49 have a minimum of 75 percent bill two
2:19:51 but then we've designed a building
2:19:52 that's not meeting that requirement and
2:19:57 I can see the idea of creating the plaza
2:20:00 as a nice feature and trying to wrap my
2:20:04 head around we have a requirement in
2:20:07 Cid's that states you're supposed to do
2:20:10 this and it doesn't look to me like
2:20:13 we're prevented from doing that when I
2:20:15 look at the bottom picture they're
2:20:16 building for it seems like it could be
2:20:18 moved down and I don't know if it's
2:20:20 question for the architect or for staff
2:20:22 I guess it's how do we how do we accept
2:20:25 that and say it's okay well I think that
2:20:28 we can't one thing we can do is go
2:20:31 through and provide a more detailed
2:20:33 fine-grained evaluation against the
2:20:36 interpretation and the elements that are
2:20:38 identified because I do think that even
2:20:43 though the streets are straighter they
2:20:45 are not exactly straight however I think
2:20:48 the other piece to identify from chapter
2:20:51 11 relative to the seventy-five percent
2:20:54 is that community spaces give or reduce
2:21:00 the percentage and using alternative
2:21:03 frontage elements reduces the percentage
2:21:06 and seventy-five percent or just from
2:21:10 the seventy-five percent and I think
2:21:13 those I'm doing this from memory but I
2:21:15 believe it gets it down to around 45
2:21:17 percent and so I they did indicate if
2:21:22 you look on page 11 of the packet they
2:21:27 did indicate that where the building is
2:21:30 set back they are doing community space
2:21:33 and alternative building elements so I
2:21:37 think it is meeting the intent but I
2:21:41 think it's worthwhile as you've
2:21:43 identified that to
2:21:45 more fine-grained evaluation relative to
2:21:47 what's in exhibit J okay right and in my
2:21:52 attendance I think it looks attractive I
2:21:54 think that'd be a nice Plaza to have out
2:21:55 there and have that space that's what
2:21:56 make sure that we're we're not doing
2:21:59 something that just because we think it
2:22:01 looks nice and I appreciate you bringing
2:22:04 that up and and I was just looking in
2:22:06 the code just to confirm things and and
2:22:07 on page eleven as Lucy recommended but
2:22:11 item item I says that the the required
2:22:17 build you know seventy five percent can
2:22:20 be reduced by ten percent for community
2:22:22 spaces and I the item J alternative
2:22:26 building frontage lets you reduce it
2:22:27 another twenty percent down DUP forty
2:22:29 five percent like like Lucy said and on
2:22:33 page eleven we've documented up in the
2:22:36 top right-hand corner how we believe
2:22:39 we're complying with that requirement by
2:22:42 by doing the math on that
2:22:44 I'm sorry page 11 of it looks it looks
2:22:48 like this in your packet it's a black
2:22:51 and white site plan with some red no I'm
2:22:54 not a staff report of the package that
2:22:57 we said sorry
2:23:06 yes you know that the development
2:23:08 agreement also addresses the setback the
2:23:12 build two line specifically we're due to
2:23:20 existing curvilinear streets property
2:23:21 lines block length and secure nature of
2:23:24 the Costco buildings is not possible to
2:23:25 meet the strict letter of the standards
2:23:27 site plans will locate buildings to
2:23:28 create street wall to the extent
2:23:30 practical or reasonable without forcing
2:23:32 the buildings to be curved you know we
2:23:34 when we face this dilemma we came in
2:23:36 with our tracing paper at with Keith and
2:23:38 with Lucia we sat and so you got to help
2:23:40 us address this because before we freeze
2:23:42 a site plan we're gonna have to this is
2:23:44 a he's a huge issue and what we have is
2:23:48 a is a kind of a diminishing return if
2:23:52 you were to slide the more you slide
2:23:54 this building forward and try and keep
2:23:56 the planes parallel this building gets
2:23:59 shorter and shorter and shorter which
2:24:00 certainly and here you the building gets
2:24:02 shorter and shorter as you slide the
2:24:04 building forward the critical the
2:24:07 critical setback if you will is is that
2:24:09 point we didn't want to rotate it around
2:24:11 that building and get everything out of
2:24:13 square because then you wouldn't meet
2:24:14 the bill to line on the other side so we
2:24:17 picked a side we picked the parallel the
2:24:20 road is still curvilinear although it's
2:24:21 straighter than it used to be well
2:24:22 actually the road didn't exist but what
2:24:25 we what we found was this is as this is
2:24:28 as regular as we can get without being
2:24:31 curvilinear and still kind of maximizing
2:24:34 the or minimizing the build to if you
2:24:37 will and so I you know basically we were
2:24:42 frozen in so I asked Keith asked Lucy
2:24:45 are we are we all agreement with this
2:24:48 strategy because this is the zip we we
2:24:50 don't have a project if we can't obtain
2:24:53 the square footage we're looking for and
2:24:55 try and you know really minimize the
2:24:57 amount of setback which is everybody's
2:24:59 intent so that that's what we were that
2:25:02 was the dilemma we were faced by and I
2:25:05 apologize I hadn't read the notes up on
2:25:08 the upper right hand corner of your page
2:25:09 11 so I get you should have read through
2:25:12 that before it there's a lot of detail
2:25:15 and the stuff together
2:25:17 so just a quick bottle absolutely Morgan
2:25:21 so it what because I was thinking about
2:25:23 the same thing and and about that East
2:25:26 Plaza and so if we're not pulling the
2:25:28 building forward creating that kind of
2:25:30 that urban edge how do you accomplish
2:25:32 that with the plaza how it's what's that
2:25:34 urban experience going to be like and I
2:25:36 know you're still early but I think
2:25:38 that's going to be part of the know kind
2:25:41 of important part of how you accommodate
2:25:43 you know what the city is trying to
2:25:45 accomplish with the design standards
2:25:49 right and and as Shannon mentioned a bit
2:25:52 ago we're going to be working with raise
2:25:54 planting beds probably vary in heights
2:25:57 as we were working to that area there's
2:26:00 there's a possibility that we would be
2:26:02 using street trees
2:26:05 you may when you look at that there's a
2:26:09 pullout that got introduced here for a
2:26:12 drop-off for pedestrians which is
2:26:15 eliminating the street trees that are
2:26:17 out on the curb line well you know we're
2:26:20 going to be introducing those back into
2:26:22 our site plan and maybe they run along
2:26:24 where that needs to be to create the
2:26:26 street wall you know there's a number of
2:26:29 different things that we're still kind
2:26:30 of thinking about related to that I
2:26:32 think that'll be kind of an important
2:26:34 kind of interface yep for the
2:26:36 pedestrians particularly you might also
2:26:41 just the code that they you know the
2:26:45 alternative building frontage there are
2:26:48 elements listed like pergolas arcades
2:26:50 arbors trellises so it's it's more than
2:26:54 just street trees its actual vertical
2:26:56 architectural elements that would be
2:27:01 appropriate but help kind of stand in
2:27:06 from the street wall
2:27:10 like I said another question on SIDS
2:27:13 11:3 a pedestrian connection says
2:27:18 pedestrian facility connection shall be
2:27:20 convenient with generally no further
2:27:21 than 250 feet of separations when a
2:27:24 block length exceeds 300 feet so there's
2:27:27 a lot of discussion about the 300 foot
2:27:30 maximum I'm just curious on this reading
2:27:34 where it says - no further than 250 feet
2:27:37 separation of pedestrian connections so
2:27:40 looking I guess at the south end of the
2:27:43 East half of building 4 but I'm not sure
2:27:48 what that distance is can that does that
2:27:51 have to be less than 250 feet then
2:28:04 so if I may chime in jinhwan physical so
2:28:10 on sheet 11 of the project plans there
2:28:16 are some dimensions that are provided
2:28:19 along that stretch of the building I'm
2:28:23 gonna call it the East Wing and so
2:28:27 there's there's a couple of dimensions
2:28:29 here that are worth noting one is if you
2:28:31 start from the very eastern corner of
2:28:33 the building working West you've got a
2:28:35 31-foot bill to line then you have a 288
2:28:40 foot community and alternative building
2:28:42 frontage and that that 288 feet
2:28:45 incorporates pretty much the bulk of
2:28:48 that building facade as well as the
2:28:52 through block passage area if you're
2:28:55 looking proportionately at the through
2:28:58 block passage area it's roughly maybe 2
2:29:03 times the width of that 31 foot build 2
2:29:06 line area that makes sense
2:29:11 so it would be approximately 250 feet I
2:29:14 don't know the exact dimensions but it
2:29:17 would be approximately 250 feet before
2:29:21 you come across a pedestrian path to get
2:29:28 you through the block yeah well I guess
2:29:29 that maybe the architect could chime in
2:29:31 too because maybe you've got that
2:29:32 dimension somewhere from the south east
2:29:36 corner building 4 to the pedestrian
2:29:38 connection well in the way I I need to
2:29:42 look at the code I mean I think Jean
2:29:44 nailed it we're showing on there 288
2:29:48 feet and I betcha it's it's less than
2:29:51 then 250 the yeah that's I got the 31
2:29:57 the 288 and I was trying to but I didn't
2:29:59 have the dimension of the pedestrian
2:30:01 opening try to get to that number so the
2:30:04 other piece I would add is that on the
2:30:07 Costco campus it is the because a lot of
2:30:12 the traffic will be the employees
2:30:16 the ability to go through the building
2:30:20 counts as well as kind of an alternating
2:30:23 pattern of a trail that's outside then a
2:30:27 path through the building and so if you
2:30:31 look down the page ten of the drawing
2:30:36 packet it's that pastor would count yeah
2:30:39 but becomes a moot point yeah okay sorry
2:30:42 I slowed to clicking thank you there's
2:30:47 another section of the Syd's that also
2:30:49 says that buildings can be up to 300
2:30:52 feet long before they're required to
2:30:54 have that break and in the in the
2:30:57 development agreement is specifically
2:30:58 calls it out which which septum is this
2:31:01 yeah and so I said incrementally build a
2:31:05 connected pedestrian system between Lake
2:31:08 Drive and the shared use routes behind
2:31:10 the buildings Pickering trail and
2:31:12 Pickering pond trail consistent with the
2:31:14 intent of SIDS section six point two a
2:31:16 if buildings are longer than 300 feet
2:31:20 open-air arcades and closed through
2:31:22 building atriums or other elements that
2:31:24 serve a similar purpose will be provided
2:31:27 and I believe it that language is comes
2:31:30 from SIDS as well six point two
2:31:37 hopefully if again if we're if that
2:31:40 through block through the building
2:31:41 counts then we don't have to worry about
2:31:43 it so I think showing you some of the
2:31:47 diagrams that were in the original SDP
2:31:51 along with the layout will sort of help
2:31:55 so we'll show you some pictures yeah and
2:32:02 SIDS 6.0 point two block length says
2:32:07 we're block length exceeds 300 feet
2:32:10 additional circulation facilities are to
2:32:13 be provided we know we're within 300
2:32:17 feet yeah I was just like that what
2:32:21 jumped out to me was 11 3a where it
2:32:23 talks about every 250
2:32:28 the another question on so 14 from the
2:32:41 building standards in 14.3 14 3 a one
2:32:51 for all uses setback buildings with
2:32:56 heights over three stories through
2:32:57 changes in building materials
2:32:59 articulation and modulation the
2:33:01 difference between the first 3 floors so
2:33:06 it's it's a question it says setback it
2:33:11 says to modulation things like that but
2:33:13 these buildings aren't setback obviously
2:33:18 the intent here - I guess I'm reading
2:33:23 that and I'm trying to figure out ok was
2:33:25 this written to say ok you go up three
2:33:28 floors and when you see the example they
2:33:30 show in it just a building that steps
2:33:32 back after three floors in the
2:33:36 building's be compliant with this one
2:33:39 there there's no setback at all I would
2:33:43 say yes based on the material chain add
2:33:46 that in buildings can use material
2:33:49 changes to accomplish that not just
2:33:52 physical setbacks ok and and we have
2:33:57 step back the top floor
2:34:10 more questions on building 4 I have one
2:34:14 more broader question and I was thinking
2:34:18 about it and then we had one of the
2:34:19 public speakers kind of speak to the
2:34:21 question about kind of the employee
2:34:25 experience and also the public
2:34:26 experience with respect to these develop
2:34:28 this development I think it's going to
2:34:33 be a wonderful environment for the
2:34:36 employees of thinking and looking at the
2:34:38 design work and the thought and the
2:34:39 detail and spaces that you're creating I
2:34:42 think is the challenge of everybody
2:34:46 these days to make sure that you are
2:34:47 tracking and retaining the highest
2:34:50 quality staff you can find but it is
2:34:53 about the and I don't know I don't
2:34:55 recall how the development agreement
2:34:56 deals with the public access or not to
2:35:00 any of these public spaces particularly
2:35:02 those that are adjacent to the streets
2:35:07 and or the through passage to get to
2:35:10 public trails from the street
2:35:12 and is that open and accessible to the
2:35:15 general public or is this a closed
2:35:17 campus
2:35:23 hi Jackie Frank every time I go walking
2:35:28 out I ran into Keith I mean like every
2:35:32 time so how do you supposed to work for
2:35:37 it's always out there you know the
2:35:39 public trails along the pond and along
2:35:42 the creek side the public you use it
2:35:45 quite quite well and quite frequently
2:35:48 accesses is there we're not proposing
2:35:50 anything that would preclude access as
2:35:54 currently exists if anything we're
2:35:56 trying to design a complementary
2:35:57 solution that would allow coexistence of
2:36:00 both the public and the private and the
2:36:02 private property
2:36:03 I do direct you to the to the
2:36:07 development agreement as it relates to
2:36:09 community space and I quote through this
2:36:12 development agreement Costco in the city
2:36:14 of work to balance Costco's need to
2:36:15 provide safe and inviting workplace with
2:36:17 implementing the SID the CIP and SIDS
2:36:20 and making a positive contribution to
2:36:22 the public realm as clarification to
2:36:24 both the definitions of public realm and
2:36:25 community spaces in the SIDS quote
2:36:28 required community spaces on Costco's
2:36:30 property are privately owned and the use
2:36:33 of Costco's property is intended for
2:36:34 employees vendors invited guests and
2:36:36 visitors no quote significant community
2:36:38 spaces are located within the Costco
2:36:40 property though they are located on some
2:36:42 of the parcels within the expansion area
2:36:44 so you know our intention is to not do
2:36:47 anything that would preclude the public
2:36:49 trail systems that surround the property
2:36:51 but but let's point out this is this is
2:36:54 private property as well so both can
2:36:59 coexist
2:37:10 um so I guess is four and five the bike
2:37:13 parking question that there were there
2:37:18 were 63 required 60 provided and zoom we
2:37:22 can figure out three more but the staff
2:37:24 was staff reports said 25% would have to
2:37:28 be in building four and I think that was
2:37:32 due to section 15 or whatever that
2:37:35 talked about arcing should be near I
2:37:38 guess two questions one is that bike
2:37:41 parking for people throughout the campus
2:37:43 so it's not just building four but also
2:37:46 could be close to added buildings and
2:37:48 then that was curious where the staff
2:37:50 got the 25% number I didn't see a source
2:37:53 for by 25% not 50 not 75 and so forth
2:38:00 any other thoughts on the bike party if
2:38:03 we could explain maybe some of our
2:38:05 thought process for why we were
2:38:07 proposing it all in the garage - and and
2:38:11 we're okay with the condition we're
2:38:13 gonna comply with the condition - but
2:38:15 our original thought was employees of
2:38:19 Costco are coming to work here all day
2:38:21 if they're avid bicyclists and they're
2:38:24 riding their bike they're probably gonna
2:38:25 want to hop into the shower and take a
2:38:27 shower before they go to work and so we
2:38:29 have a bunch of indoor bike parking
2:38:31 provided in the garage and that's where
2:38:33 we provided all our parking to start
2:38:34 with because they could go park in the
2:38:36 garage hop into the fitness center get
2:38:38 cleaned up and go to work say all they
2:38:41 reverse that and leave staffs concern is
2:38:46 short-term you know people coming on
2:38:49 bikes and just want to come up and say
2:38:50 hi to somebody visit somebody can't come
2:38:53 directly to building 4 we have places in
2:38:56 the basement of the garage to put some
2:38:58 saws and we'll put some racks up in the
2:39:01 plaza by the front entryway as well so
2:39:03 we fully intend to comply with that so
2:39:09 from a staff perspective if I'm
2:39:11 understanding your question questions
2:39:14 yes one piece of it is there does need
2:39:17 to be visitor parking as Steve was
2:39:20 suggesting with rats
2:39:22 in some of the plazas for the very
2:39:25 reasons he identified 25% there isn't a
2:39:30 code basis in the sense of a specific
2:39:34 number there is an expectation that
2:39:39 bicycle parking is located where it will
2:39:44 be close to direct convenient and
2:39:47 accessible and I think our concern was
2:39:51 there's kind of you know and I'm I don't
2:39:57 know the percentages but let's say 75
2:40:00 percent of the vehicular parking is in
2:40:03 the garage and 25 percent is under the
2:40:06 building I that is I'm doing that in my
2:40:09 head right now so it's not true but I
2:40:12 think that there was an expectation that
2:40:15 there should be an equal opportunity for
2:40:20 distributing bike parking between the
2:40:23 two buildings and that while everything
2:40:27 that Steve says is true that some people
2:40:31 may just want their bike parking in the
2:40:34 same building where they are they may
2:40:36 feel more comfortable if we want to make
2:40:38 it a koala attractive equally convenient
2:40:42 in some of the same ways that we're
2:40:45 doing with vehicular parking okay I
2:40:48 guess I guess my suggestion is you know
2:40:51 things like bike parking usually if you
2:40:53 ask the bicyclist they'll tell you how
2:40:55 much they want in both and instead of
2:40:57 necessarily maybe a hard 25% maybe your
2:41:00 condition could be you know an
2:41:03 appropriate number of stalls would be
2:41:05 located in building four or something
2:41:06 like that to let them work it out I my
2:41:11 only hesitation is I think we're all
2:41:14 trying to have predictability because
2:41:15 they're moving pretty fast so I I'd
2:41:22 certainly would support at least but I
2:41:26 don't think we're saying it can be it
2:41:29 shall be no more nor no less
2:41:32 than 25% and I think that your point is
2:41:35 well-taken that there may be members of
2:41:37 the bike their bike community that can
2:41:39 help guide them on that and hopefully
2:41:42 maybe they could have that conversation
2:41:44 before we come back so that if we need
2:41:46 to adjust the percentage we can do it
2:41:48 it's part of the Brazil and I am sharing
2:41:50 them with ya Thank You Jackie Frank I
2:41:54 actually had a conversation with our
2:41:55 facilities guys you know architects drew
2:41:58 one plan and and then there's the
2:42:00 reality and the reading and the reality
2:42:02 is is that there's a portion of
2:42:03 subterranean parking under four and
2:42:05 obviously there's parking in in five so
2:42:09 that we will have lockable lockable bike
2:42:12 area just like we do in building
2:42:14 buildings too and and currently
2:42:18 buildings one and two we will have
2:42:21 subterranean lockable parking and
2:42:23 building four we will have lockable
2:42:24 parking in building five adjacent to the
2:42:27 gym and we'll have parking in the in the
2:42:29 breezeway through block connection we
2:42:33 would do it regardless of a condition
2:42:35 and will provide ample parking for our
2:42:37 for our folks let's get is a move it's a
2:42:41 moot point yeah because we're gonna do
2:42:44 it anyway
2:42:44 yeah there you have a lot of questions
2:42:50 so the loading loose yeah I'm gene I'm
2:42:54 curious about the I agree with the idea
2:42:56 of not having 18 loading docks and I was
2:43:02 trying to figure out where does one per
2:43:03 30 thousand come from I know it's in
2:43:07 there but I don't know where that I
2:43:10 guess number one I want to say I totally
2:43:12 agree with allowing that administrative
2:43:15 adjustment but just also curious maybe
2:43:17 it's some in the future we could change
2:43:19 well I don't know that it's a I guess
2:43:25 what I would say Mel is that what we've
2:43:29 seen is that for some for smaller uses
2:43:32 it's probably accurate for some of these
2:43:35 really big uses we had the same problem
2:43:37 of Swedish hospital I think it was gonna
2:43:40 have to have 30 or some crazy number
2:43:43 and and we also I think even the rally
2:43:48 hotel was it was way out of whack and so
2:43:52 some of these big and/or specialized
2:43:55 uses I mean that's where the AAS is I
2:43:58 think the administrative adjustment of
2:43:59 standards is vital because they usually
2:44:02 have very good you know objective data
2:44:05 that is the basis and then we can tailor
2:44:07 the use to really tailor the loading
2:44:12 docks to the use as to the origins of
2:44:16 that I believe that those numbers have
2:44:18 been here as long as I have since before
2:44:21 I was here and the thing I would
2:44:24 probably say that we discovered with car
2:44:27 parking you know we used to try and peel
2:44:30 a part visitor in guest parking from
2:44:33 either resident or employee parking
2:44:35 because we allowed that on street and we
2:44:39 tried to figure out what that percentage
2:44:41 was because you know understandably at
2:44:43 some point someone did some calculations
2:44:45 and said employees you need this much
2:44:48 for employees in this much for your
2:44:50 retail customers or for your guests of
2:44:52 the reson but it's been bundled together
2:44:54 so long its back in the mists of time
2:44:57 you know with the dinosaurs and we don't
2:45:01 really know what that where that came
2:45:04 from and so as I said I think it serves
2:45:08 as well with smaller uses but with
2:45:10 larger uses we really we pretty much
2:45:13 expect that we're going to gather data
2:45:15 to help us adjust it to the appropriate
2:45:18 number great thank you more questions
2:45:26 any more questions on building for about
2:45:30 comments on building for people have
2:45:35 specific comments they would like to
2:45:36 make this is for our input to their
2:45:39 decision yes
2:45:51 yeah no no comments oh you're right I'll
2:46:00 jump in because I think our job is to
2:46:01 provide them our opinions about the
2:46:06 decision they'll be making or input I
2:46:09 would take a little more than one if my
2:46:12 concerns about building for where the
2:46:16 the blank wall but given that it's
2:46:19 dropped down and I think you're working
2:46:21 on that anyway but since it's below
2:46:23 grade not as much of an issue that sense
2:46:26 of arrival that end of the building but
2:46:28 it sounds like you're well aware of that
2:46:30 too and the importance of that the
2:46:33 through block passages in the
2:46:36 calculation of the bill to line
2:46:38 satisfied what I thought about it the
2:46:43 there attractive looking buildings I
2:46:46 think they've done a lot to make it a
2:46:48 you know an excellent place with both
2:46:52 employees and firm appearances for or
2:46:55 the public and then the outside spaces
2:46:57 for the employees rooftop decks all of
2:46:59 that in the very nice looking building
2:47:03 inside it to work great I think shining
2:47:09 too so I echo the comment of that I
2:47:13 think they're very attractive it's a
2:47:15 very attractive building I liked
2:47:17 variations in materials I think you've
2:47:21 done a real nice job integrating the
2:47:24 kind of open space the plaza is the the
2:47:28 East Plaza and the central plaza through
2:47:31 the mid-block connection I think that's
2:47:33 gonna be because you've got upper floor
2:47:37 the skybridge is above up higher so it's
2:47:41 gonna be open and invisible and
2:47:42 attractive and inviting to pull people
2:47:45 in and so I think that I think that is
2:47:47 really well done still concerned about
2:47:49 how you're going to deal with connection
2:47:52 across the vehicular Drive but
2:47:56 after your explanation not as great a
2:47:58 concern has this little traffic area
2:47:59 smaller products not talking about
2:48:01 people maneuvering around semis backing
2:48:03 up etc so I think that that helps but
2:48:06 still you need to figure out how to
2:48:07 define that in a way that's safe for
2:48:10 people and recognizable to people that
2:48:13 are providing deliveries
2:48:16 I like the lantern effect that you're
2:48:18 creating this arrival to the building I
2:48:22 think that that will be interesting how
2:48:23 you work the lighting at night on that
2:48:25 could be a trick but I think that will
2:48:28 be I mean we think about the buildings
2:48:30 during the day but they're also a real
2:48:32 high impact at night if you treat them
2:48:34 you know with some effective lighting
2:48:39 you can create a whole different image
2:48:41 and I think you can do some real are you
2:48:43 doing some really interesting stuff with
2:48:45 that nighttime effect on the building so
2:48:47 I think that's that's really exciting
2:48:49 and then just as far as an inviting
2:48:52 place for people to work I think it will
2:48:55 be great and people who are traveling
2:48:57 through here that don't work here
2:48:59 unfortunately
2:49:00 Ty's invited in but understand the deal
2:49:03 but it will be still attractive for
2:49:06 people passing by I think that that was
2:49:11 final comment yeah I also say that I
2:49:15 think it's gonna be a great looking
2:49:17 building I think it's gonna be really
2:49:18 great for Costco as well to be able to
2:49:21 bring more employees to his aquatic
2:49:22 that's that's great
2:49:24 as far as for the community I think and
2:49:27 I think you guys are gonna be doing
2:49:28 something like this but adding to our
2:49:31 complementing the trail system around
2:49:33 there I think would go a really long way
2:49:40 best chance about questions on building
2:49:44 five they have one mr. Sharma yep
2:49:58 absolutely
2:49:59 on page 180 of 272 in the SIDS checklist
2:50:04 section 14 - there's it does not meet
2:50:09 the standard check there was wondering
2:50:13 what that means is it foreseen can you
2:50:16 get the page number again yeah sorry
2:50:18 that was maybe page 180 of 272 thank you
2:50:26 and there's a check mark there and a
2:50:29 does not meet and I was wondering what
2:50:30 that means is that foreseen that the use
2:50:34 of the parking space may evolve over
2:50:36 time if so is this related to a
2:50:40 condition anywhere
2:51:06 [Applause]
2:51:27 so there's quite a few standards in 14.2
2:51:30 and it could be there's actually perhaps
2:51:36 maybe a few of those standards where it
2:51:38 does not comply one of them is the avoid
2:51:43 blank walls and so we did include a
2:51:46 condition for the blank walls at
2:51:49 building five it's that the note
2:51:53 involved evolution use evolving over
2:51:57 time and I almost imagined a parking
2:51:59 garage in a loft area for example that
2:52:01 might go from a parking lot to loft
2:52:04 space and requires flat flooring for
2:52:07 that or something like that
2:52:08 I couldn't imagine I was trying to
2:52:10 envision how the use of this might
2:52:11 evolve over time I wonder if it says 14
2:52:15 - a but building shall be designed to
2:52:17 accommodate many uses so they may evolve
2:52:19 over time and and are you saying the
2:52:21 parking worsens if I could interject the
2:52:27 end the last part of the note says C
2:52:30 sheet 31 and item ten point nine when
2:52:34 you go to ten point nine it's talking
2:52:36 about blank walls and I think that's
2:52:40 what Jean was referring to it's both yes
2:52:49 yes I mean part of it is with the
2:52:52 flexibility of space it's a little more
2:52:56 challenging to convert a parking garage
2:52:59 use to a different use over time and so
2:53:05 I think the blank wall is definitely
2:53:09 addressed by condition we have that
2:53:11 wondering if there was something about a
2:53:13 different use anticipated for that
2:53:15 garage right and I think the only the
2:53:18 one thing that we identified is that yes
2:53:20 the exhibition space in the fitness
2:53:22 center that could be repurposed over
2:53:24 time you know but not so much the
2:53:29 parking areas
2:53:40 other questions I'm building client I
2:53:42 have a question to getting back back on
2:53:44 the walkway idea if I understand the
2:53:48 parking garage correctly it at five
2:53:50 o'clock people flowing out of here and
2:53:53 there's gonna be a lot of cars coming
2:53:55 out of Costco and see they they be
2:53:59 coming out that Northeast exit coming
2:54:03 out looking to their left to get out
2:54:06 make sure there's no trucks coming or
2:54:08 cars coming from the ramp from the other
2:54:09 garage they're making that quick right
2:54:11 turn I guess your disk you're mentioning
2:54:15 keeping the pedestrians on the north
2:54:17 side of that walkway it seems to me that
2:54:20 that's a better idea I'd be afraid of at
2:54:23 nighttime a lot of people not being seen
2:54:26 by a carbine pulling out of there I'd I
2:54:29 would trust them to have a better vision
2:54:32 of pedestrians if they went across the
2:54:35 north side of that driveway and then
2:54:36 came down like your proposal is so their
2:54:40 walkways on both sides in both proposals
2:54:42 yeah I think he said they were gonna
2:54:44 make the southern walkway right wider
2:54:47 right and I thought I think one thing to
2:54:51 think about you know it's always hard to
2:54:54 anticipate how buildings will actually
2:54:58 be used right I think part of our
2:55:03 recommendation to maybe emphasize the
2:55:07 south side over the north side in spite
2:55:09 of that is that as with our walkers of
2:55:14 Jackie and Keith they're often out there
2:55:16 at lunch they're out there at morning
2:55:19 breaks they're out there at different
2:55:21 times I think the people who are going
2:55:23 to the garage to get their car at five
2:55:25 o'clock or coming out first thing in the
2:55:29 morning which is when you're gonna have
2:55:30 most of the traffic in and out of the
2:55:32 garage is not going to be the time when
2:55:34 most people are walking people who are
2:55:36 using the garage you're probably going
2:55:37 to be using the skybridge because it
2:55:39 gets them into the building system
2:55:41 and so I think that was why we were
2:55:44 comfortable moving it to that side is in
2:55:49 sort of thinking it through it didn't
2:55:51 seem like the timelines were likely to
2:55:53 have the overlap that would cause the
2:55:55 concern that you're identifying about
2:55:57 you good point okay since we're talking
2:56:01 about that through block connection
2:56:03 there and then excess so the what's the
2:56:06 I think it was in the staff report I
2:56:08 forgot the dimensions but what's the
2:56:10 width from wall to wall in the through
2:56:13 block of the bill between the building
2:56:15 37 feet 37 feet and then what a four
2:56:19 foot sidewalk on we had a 24 foot wide
2:56:23 drive aisle and then we were doing a
2:56:26 five foot sidewalk on the north and a
2:56:29 seven and a half foot sidewalk on this
2:56:31 out because I'm just trying to kind of
2:56:38 visualize what the experience will be
2:56:40 like in that space when the garages are
2:56:43 active it's not going to be a very
2:56:45 comfortable space to be in I don't think
2:56:47 so I'm just wondering what can you do to
2:56:52 make that feel safer and a bit more I
2:56:55 mean it's not going to be an inviting
2:56:57 place to travel through when you've got
2:56:59 a lot of cars coming in and out of there
2:57:00 it's pretty constrained you got a fairly
2:57:01 low ceiling this is challenge a design
2:57:06 challenge the reason why we made that a
2:57:11 preliminary condition is that we wanted
2:57:16 to this came up towards the end of
2:57:19 preparing the staff report and we
2:57:21 recognized that doing more detailed
2:57:24 studies that through block passage
2:57:27 looking at the dimensions the wall
2:57:29 treatments it does have a 15-foot height
2:57:33 so it is a little taller than it appears
2:57:38 a much more than a garage deck - exactly
2:57:41 but we want I gene mentioned that in our
2:57:45 presentation we want to come back with
2:57:46 more materials and more visuals and
2:57:49 potentially refining the condition
2:57:51 and to give a better sense of what
2:57:54 that's gonna be
2:57:56 III would appreciate that because that's
2:57:58 the one one of the elements that cannot
2:58:00 of a scratch on my head over a little
2:58:01 bit as we're looking at the staff report
2:58:04 and the plans and they won't okay well
2:58:06 you you want these through block
2:58:07 connections to be no attractive and
2:58:10 inviting and pull people through and
2:58:13 that will be challenging for this space
2:58:15 and so whatever you can do to kind of
2:58:17 show how is this going to work to its
2:58:20 highest potential for to meet those
2:58:23 objectives I think would be you spend
2:58:27 then obviously the stuff that you know
2:58:28 we were just talking about as far as
2:58:29 safety of people that are you know
2:58:33 traveling with the car through that same
2:58:35 space they do have a question or maybe a
2:58:42 comment but more of course I'm about the
2:58:45 last slide you showed view from the
2:58:48 northbound Lake Drive showing the garage
2:58:50 to the ride if you can pull that one up
2:58:52 again
2:59:05 Hey I guess uh my one concern about this
2:59:10 building is is that view of the garage
2:59:14 right there when you're coming south on
2:59:17 Lake Drive and Costco's built beautiful
2:59:20 buildings and a beautiful campus and I
2:59:23 have the feeling that driving along
2:59:25 there even with the the vendor event
2:59:29 center display Center on the first floor
2:59:32 lit up I think that would be great
2:59:34 but seeing those it looks to me like you
2:59:38 know four floors even though it's got
2:59:39 the trim stuff it's a pretty utilitarian
2:59:44 structure on that corner it appears to
2:59:47 me and I wondered if there is you
2:59:50 thought about there's something you can
2:59:51 do maybe even to the corner of that and
2:59:55 make it look less monolithic or
2:59:59 something on those upper levels looks
3:00:01 like a parking garage or I had a similar
3:00:09 reaction and I was wondering you know
3:00:12 you talked about the lantern effect that
3:00:13 you'd created at the corners at the
3:00:15 South corner and I don't know if there's
3:00:17 something else or how that could work at
3:00:20 that corner as you're creating another
3:00:22 kind of a gateway element as it is I
3:00:24 think the utilitarian description is
3:00:27 probably a good one as you look at that
3:00:29 that it's there's an opportunity to do
3:00:33 something that's a little more striking
3:00:35 that kind of frames both sides of the
3:00:36 street as you're traveling in that
3:00:37 direction that I think might be worth
3:00:39 exploring thank you
3:00:50 [Applause]
3:00:54 one more question Steve the skybridge
3:01:02 that travels from the garage to the
3:01:04 building and I really appreciate that
3:01:08 raising it up trying to create as much
3:01:11 transparency as possible because I know
3:01:13 when we were dealing with the original
3:01:15 land plan discussion here it was like
3:01:17 okay this is a view of the south you've
3:01:20 got the mountains and it's not it's not
3:01:22 ruin it let's try to enhance it so I
3:01:24 appreciate what you're doing with this
3:01:26 just a simple question though as far as
3:01:28 is it a conditioned space or is this
3:01:29 gonna be kind of open air since you're
3:01:32 coming up from an unconditioned Rodge
3:01:33 into a conditioned building you could
3:01:35 probably keep it unconditioned and kind
3:01:37 of fresh until you get to the building I
3:01:39 suppose but I don't know your thinking
3:01:40 on that is that's our intent we're going
3:01:42 to have a vestibule inside the building
3:01:44 for where we make the transition but the
3:01:47 bridge itself will be an unconditioned
3:01:49 okay so and we had a speaker early right
3:01:54 raising concerns about the greenhouse
3:01:56 effect in that thing so yeah so we still
3:01:58 have to work that out to ventilate it
3:02:00 all but that will be the intent
3:02:08 other questions
3:02:17 no more questions how about comments on
3:02:19 building five
3:02:30 I I have to say I like I liked for a
3:02:35 parking structure I thought it looked
3:02:36 pretty decent you know so not I guess I
3:02:41 support the notion of maybe some kind of
3:02:43 Lander an effect on the corners but but
3:02:45 in general for a for an urban parking
3:02:49 structure I especially with the glass on
3:02:52 the bottom I think that really helped a
3:02:53 lot and thought it looked really good
3:02:55 and I do like those the uses you've put
3:02:58 on the ground floor to have the exercise
3:03:00 facility and the activity that goes with
3:03:02 that and vendor space and all that that
3:03:05 I mean all that at the base of a parking
3:03:09 garage instead of just vacant retail you
3:03:12 see so many places that I think you did
3:03:16 a very nice job thank you so I
3:03:21 appreciate that too
3:03:23 knowing how challenging it is to put to
3:03:27 meet that requirement of active uses on
3:03:30 ground floors and as a single user in an
3:03:32 office campus that makes it particularly
3:03:35 challenging since you don't add a bunch
3:03:37 of separate retail uses etc the I like
3:03:42 the the work that you're doing on
3:03:43 sustainability I think that's something
3:03:46 that is a high value in this community
3:03:48 and as you know a major corporate
3:03:54 resident here are citizens that
3:03:56 reflecting that back is I think really a
3:03:59 positive thing to do not only for the
3:04:01 Costco but for the community so I think
3:04:04 that's setting the example I think
3:04:05 that's excellent
3:04:06 the I agree that for a parking garage
3:04:09 again challenging to keep it interesting
3:04:12 got maybe a little bit more work to do
3:04:14 but I think the Alta shoot it's an
3:04:17 interesting or above grade parking
3:04:19 garage I think your architectural
3:04:23 treatments looked good that north corner
3:04:26 would be the exception
3:04:28 the the interface with the trail part so
3:04:33 a little bit more on that would be
3:04:34 useful when we see this come back is
3:04:37 what will the public experience be as
3:04:40 we're walking by this because we've got
3:04:43 retaining walls and things and you're
3:04:45 kind of down in a hole that's not good
3:04:47 so I think that will be useful for us to
3:04:50 see a little bit more about that because
3:04:51 we want to really protect the public the
3:04:54 public's experience not only Costco
3:04:57 employees that matter but also the
3:04:58 public will be walking through the
3:05:00 campus and and using the public trails
3:05:02 that are adjacent to it so I think that
3:05:04 would be good to see that and then again
3:05:09 similar to the kind of discussion about
3:05:12 the interface of the plaza the East
3:05:14 Plaza on Second Street our 62nd but the
3:05:17 North Plaza here what's the what's this
3:05:20 interface look like if the street kind
3:05:23 of the urban edge Plaza that will be
3:05:26 interesting to see what you're doing
3:05:28 with that and I know you've provided
3:05:29 some example you know treatments in the
3:05:34 packet but that I think was another
3:05:38 piece I think that will be what we
3:05:40 general public they don't wear a costco
3:05:42 badge experience and so i think we would
3:05:45 like to see a little bit more about that
3:05:46 we start with
3:05:55 in their comments
3:06:02 looks like we're their other business to
3:06:05 conduct if you're concluded with this
3:06:09 permit I think we can close the public
3:06:15 hearing for this evening while leaving
3:06:17 it open for our next meeting which we
3:06:21 anticipate to be October 3rd I'll do
3:06:25 that okay and then I'll and then I do
3:06:28 have a couple of other matters that I
3:06:30 want to bring up I know there's other
3:06:32 business to do but it at this point the
3:06:34 public hearing for this portion for
3:06:37 building five is oh there's we have some
3:06:41 additional business like to thank
3:06:43 negative members of the public they can
3:06:45 sit here and listen to that additional
3:06:46 business if you want and I guess I have
3:06:49 to say I think the Costco Group did an
3:06:53 excellent job and it's obvious that you
3:06:56 did a you worked real hard to to meet
3:06:59 the requirements and the conditions that
3:07:01 were necessary and it's greatly
3:07:03 appreciated I think I won't speak for
3:07:05 the whole group but I sure think it'll
3:07:08 be a real asset you know I thank you
3:07:11 I agree thank you so other business one
3:07:21 is that we haven't met much this year we
3:07:24 need to elect your officers we wouldn't
3:07:29 do that tonight but I would like to do
3:07:32 that at the next regular meeting which
3:07:33 would be October 3rd and so I just want
3:07:37 you all to think about who would like to
3:07:39 run for chairperson and vice chair of
3:07:42 the Commission and we will have a fierce
3:07:46 political battle yes
3:07:51 I'm looking for my button so the other
3:07:57 thing we do have a special meeting on
3:08:00 September 26 do 626 it's not a regular
3:08:08 meeting night which is why I want to
3:08:10 hold the election at the regular meeting
3:08:14 the special meeting will be unusual
3:08:21 really unusual you guys are gonna get
3:08:24 your own legal counsel to or to advise
3:08:32 you and so the permits for that will go
3:08:38 out later the packet will go out
3:08:43 this is Patrick's hanging around because
3:08:48 so the Highlands development
3:08:52 agreement ended there are some permits
3:08:56 that were in and there are questions
3:09:03 around vesting which rules apply and so
3:09:10 the city will probably be represented by
3:09:15 the city attorney the applicant will
3:09:18 probably be represented by their
3:09:20 attorney which is not Patrick but
3:09:21 someone else from his firm and so
3:09:25 because staff are normally neutral but
3:09:29 because we are defending ourselves
3:09:31 against potential litigation we may not
3:09:35 be seen as neutral so you'll get your
3:09:37 own advisor we have identified a legal
3:09:42 adviser he's not a lawyer he's a Hearing
3:09:45 Examiner and he will be here to help you
3:09:47 guide you through this process it will
3:09:49 be do more like a trial probably there
3:09:52 will be witnesses and exhibits and
3:09:55 various things we are still working this
3:09:59 out it will probably go for several
3:10:01 nights not consecutive nights
3:10:04 it will probably not be concluded in one
3:10:07 night so I'm just giving you a heads up
3:10:09 that September 26 will be special can I
3:10:14 ask a quick question about it so we're
3:10:16 in the role of deciding the standing of
3:10:20 permits based on no well maybe it's too
3:10:26 early to ask that question yeah so step
3:10:31 you know they have permits that they had
3:10:35 that the applicant has submitted permits
3:10:38 they have taken a certain position about
3:10:42 how they should be moved forward staff
3:10:45 have taken a different position about
3:10:48 how they should be moved forward and you
3:10:52 will get a recommendation from the city
3:10:54 right and you will be asked either to
3:10:58 uphold that recommend any that that part
3:11:00 of it is no different than what you
3:11:01 normally do but it'll be more on a
3:11:03 technical issue of process all right
3:11:10 it will no it will be also content okay
3:11:13 okay so we're deciding on the permit
3:11:16 it's a permit decision
3:11:17 it is a permit decision okay now I got
3:11:19 it okay is the uvd seen oh no no but and
3:11:26 this this is one of the matters is that
3:11:32 under the development agreement it would
3:11:34 have gone to the you VDC but the city's
3:11:37 position is that because the development
3:11:40 agreement has been terminated that and
3:11:43 now all the permits in the urban
3:11:46 villages that are not vested according
3:11:50 to the city would come to the
3:11:52 Development Commission so I think you're
3:11:55 beginning to see some of the issues that
3:11:56 will be presented to you VDC only
3:11:59 existed because of the development
3:12:01 agreement not just to have different
3:12:04 workloads other words I mean the
3:12:07 development agreement goes away well
3:12:09 there's still our development agreements
3:12:11 who's you know there are probably eight
3:12:14 development agreements in the city
3:12:17 and four of them were terminated this
3:12:20 year or modified this year there remains
3:12:28 lakeside Swedish wash dot TDR which is
3:12:33 where Bellevue college is Costco
3:12:37 although that that comes to Development
3:12:39 Commission so it it's not that there is
3:12:46 not a purpose remaining for the you VDC
3:12:49 there just may not be very frequent
3:12:51 activity and I think that is a question
3:12:54 the council will have to make a decision
3:12:56 on in probably over the next six or
3:13:01 eight months is is this the best way to
3:13:04 use our volunteers or is it important to
3:13:08 have that standalone Commission to serve
3:13:11 the development agreements and I can't
3:13:23 wait for sure so let's