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Wednesday, March 4, 2015

7:00 PM · 1h 15m · Council Chambers, 135 East Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topic tracked across meetings:
PUBLIC HEARING: Fieldstone Memory Care 1/2
Section
2. COMMITTEE MEMBERS
2a
Commission Membership
packet pp.2
Staff report:
Contacts About Created in 1983, this commission reviews all land use actions Staff Liaison requiring a Level 3 review. The Commission further serves as an Christopher Wright, Project advisory board to the City Council on land use actions requiring Oversight Manager council approval (Level 5 review). Email
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
3a
Minutes of February 18, 2015
packet pp.3–14
Staff report:
of this project. She discussed staff’s recommended conditions for addressing the retaining walls (Conditions C.3 and C.4), as provided in the staff report. She continued with existing conditions on SE Evans Street, including photos of current views. She provided details of proposed improvements on SE Evans, including six-foot sidewalks and ramps, a five-foot planter with street trees, curbs, buffers, and street lighting.
4. AGENDA ITEMS
4a
Fieldstone Memory Care Community Conference
Jennifer R Woods, Associate Planner · packet pp.15–34
Staff report:
CITY OF ISSAQUAH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
0:32 there you go
0:33 good evening and welcome to the march
0:36 4th meeting of the issaquah development
0:38 commission
0:39 tonight is uh we'll be conducting a
0:41 community conference and the project is
0:44 the fieldstone memory care
0:46 the request is an application for
0:48 community conference by submitted by
0:50 cascadia development
0:52 to develop an alzheimer's and temporary
0:54 care community
0:56 60 units of those 60 units 52 will be
0:58 private units
1:01 the
1:03 format for this evening's meeting will
1:06 be that we'll start off with a review
1:08 and approval of the minutes from the
1:10 last one
1:11 and then we will have a presentation by
1:13 this the staff
1:15 and then you the applicant will have an
1:17 opportunity to make your presentation
1:18 we'd appreciate it if when anybody that
1:21 wants to speak
1:23 would when you start would you identify
1:25 yourself with your name and your
1:27 business address the name of your
1:29 company and business address if there
1:30 are any members of the public that would
1:32 like to speak about tonight or to ask
1:35 questions we'd ask that you sign in
1:37 there and do the same thing if you get
1:39 up to speak in the public section of it
1:41 if you'd identify yourself
1:43 with your name and your address
1:46 after the applicant has
1:48 spoken we will have an opportunity for
1:51 individual members of the development
1:52 commission to seek clarification of
1:54 either the applicants or the the staff
1:57 and after that there will be an
1:59 opportunity for each commissioner to
2:02 make uh observations and or
2:03 recommendations based on the
2:05 presentations to that point okay so with
2:08 that we will go to the minutes uh does
2:12 anybody have any changes they would like
2:14 to see in the minutes as they were
2:15 presented to us
2:18 mr chair one change
2:20 on the second to last page of the
2:22 minutes
2:25 under revised condition c-5
2:30 and the paragraph that starts at move by
2:31 morgan seconded by swedberg
2:35 the it should stay the building design
2:38 shall incorporate architectural
2:39 treatments
2:41 reviewed by and acceptable to the city
2:44 council to mitigate the blank walls
2:52 you got that
2:54 okay are there any other
2:57 changes requested in the minutes
2:59 if so all right do we have a
3:02 chair i move we approve the minutes so
3:04 the meeting from the
3:06 february
3:08 18th 18th 18th yes that couldn't be the
3:11 development there's a
3:13 motion to approve in a second is there
3:14 any further discussion
3:18 and all in favor of approving the
3:19 minutes as amended signify by saying aye
3:22 aye opposed
3:23 right motion carries unanimously
3:28 we'll now have a presentation by the
3:30 city staff
3:43 sorry i'm not going to go through the
3:44 holding all right good evening my name
3:47 is jennifer woods and i'm a planner in
3:48 dsd good evening to all of you i don't
3:50 know if i've met you all
3:52 i'll be introducing the application
3:54 com15001
3:56 fieldstone memory care community
3:58 conference
4:01 so i wanted to
4:03 given that you've been dealing with a
4:05 lot of stps here lately i wanted to just
4:08 bring up the purpose of a community
4:10 conference which is to generate
4:11 discussion raise issues and propose
4:13 creative options relative to the
4:15 proposed project
4:17 in addition there are some
4:19 expectations excuse me for the applicant
4:22 that come out of the community
4:23 conference the applicant can expect that
4:26 the more information provided allows for
4:28 more input from the commission
4:30 input provided comes before a decision
4:33 is made which is very helpful
4:35 inconsistencies with comprehensive plan
4:37 can be discussed creative approaches to
4:39 constraints
4:41 on the site can be discussed recommended
4:43 modifications can be discussed and
4:45 additional modifications to the proposal
4:47 will need to be made before the sdv
4:49 public hearing which is a good way for
4:52 the applicant to know what you want to
4:54 see modifications as it regards the code
4:57 before you're making a decision about it
5:02 here is a map of the site and its
5:05 context to the rest of the city i
5:07 labeled i-90 just because it's a pretty
5:10 good
5:10 identifier as well as lake sumac state
5:13 park it is the property shaded in black
5:15 with the white star on it
5:16 way up in the north part of the city
5:19 here's an aerial photograph of that site
5:22 closer to the site i've labeled this
5:25 highlands east lake samamish are
5:27 the roots to get to issaquah highlands
5:29 east lake sammamish parkway and then
5:31 kind of where it is in context to
5:33 king county and the city of samamish
5:35 which is up the road a little bit
5:39 here's a closer
5:41 aerial photo of the site you can see it
5:43 a little better
5:46 here are some
5:48 photographs of the actual site as i
5:50 walked it you can see that the
5:54 the numbers listed correspond to the
5:56 pictures beside the aerial photograph in
5:59 the center
6:00 and these are just some perspectives
6:02 from
6:03 from pedestrian places the sidewalks
6:06 adjacent to the property
6:08 and i'll leave those up for a second if
6:10 you want to look at them
6:11 and i can always go back to this slide
6:13 if you need me to as well
6:16 so about the proposal the circulation
6:18 and parking there is one driveway to the
6:21 development from southeast asia city
6:23 road
6:24 there won't be any connection to
6:26 highlands drive
6:29 there is
6:30 the well the exact driveway location is
6:33 and any channelization requirements as
6:35 part of this proposal are evaluated
6:37 during cpa review and traffic mitigation
6:41 the driveway then connects to the
6:42 parking lot which then connects to the
6:44 front of the building so that's how you
6:45 get into the site and actually get into
6:47 the building
6:49 there will be a sidewalk planner
6:51 revision on issaquah fall city road as
6:53 of right now the sidewalks right next to
6:55 the street but the city standard
6:56 requires that there be a planner in
6:58 between the sidewalk and the curb
7:01 and the internal circulation
7:03 vehicularly is through the parking lot
7:06 in the center there
7:07 and that's what you see
7:09 let's see here
7:10 the front entrance is starved to the
7:12 building right here and i've circled the
7:14 driveway right here i also wanted to
7:16 mention that there is a regional trail
7:19 this is the yellow dash line right here
7:22 on the east side of the property
7:27 buildings and site design most develop
7:30 or the development standards can be met
7:32 setbacks building height impervious
7:34 surface
7:35 we're at a conceptual phase
7:38 now but there will be more detail
7:40 provided as we go through the
7:41 development process
7:43 but i wanted to clarify that one of the
7:46 standards that i had pointed out thank
7:48 you commissioner morgan was wrong
7:50 and i wanted to go ahead and clarify
7:52 exactly what the applicant has proposed
7:54 thus far
7:55 the there's no i want to clarify too
7:57 there's no tree removal in the critical
7:59 area or it's buffer so we're only
8:01 talking about tree retention outside
8:02 those areas um the retention required is
8:05 25 it is 639 inches they're proposing to
8:08 retain 17 or
8:10 1738 inches which is a lot they're
8:13 meeting that requirement so
8:15 they won't need an aas if they continue
8:18 to retain this many caliper inches of
8:21 trees
8:23 there is a critical area the very south
8:25 of the property here it's this big round
8:28 circular thing here it is a wetland
8:30 and there's a buffer to it as well
8:33 and the building design and the
8:35 landscaping we're reviewing against the
8:37 green sheets so they will need to meet
8:38 the provisions of the green sheets as
8:40 well
8:42 and i
8:44 am here for any questions about process
8:47 the applicant also has a presentation
8:50 that i'll get ready to go so if you want
8:52 to come up and
8:53 present
9:02 there you go
9:05 hi there justin yonker with cascadia
9:07 development
9:09 address 4120 englewood avenue in yakima
9:12 washington 98908.
9:16 doug ellison with cascadia development
9:18 same address
9:19 let me repeat it
9:26 just a little background on on our
9:28 companies here
9:30 two years ago doug and i started
9:32 cascadia development and senior living
9:35 obviously development is the the
9:36 development arm
9:38 going out entitling land putting a
9:41 building together
9:43 for our senior living operating company
9:46 cascadia senior living so
9:49 we're the principals of the development
9:50 company um the senior living company
9:53 we're growing
9:55 currently we have a
9:56 president wayne purdum who's here uh
9:59 controller
10:00 vice president of healthcare vice
10:03 president of communications in hr and um
10:07 and a part-time bookkeeper so
10:10 at this point we've developed one
10:12 community in yakima
10:15 we worked for a national
10:18 real estate investment company for a
10:20 number of years doing senior housing
10:22 multi-family
10:24 student housing
10:26 spread out across the country we wanted
10:28 to do something local we both grew up in
10:30 yakima
10:32 wanted to do something local
10:34 do something
10:37 that wasn't so spread out you know our
10:39 goal here is to do eight to ten
10:40 communities have a
10:42 a core
10:44 corporate team that can be nimble make
10:46 decisions uh we can drive to a community
10:49 within two or three hours and be home at
10:51 night so that's kind of our our overall
10:54 goal here
10:55 so right now we've got the yakima
10:56 community that opened in july and we're
10:59 about 70 occupied
11:01 we projected a two-year lease up so
11:04 we're doing very well
11:05 and that's a stand-alone memory care
11:08 exactly the the same type of
11:11 service and care that we're uh proposing
11:13 here
11:14 we've got two properties in kennewick
11:18 a standalone memory care and then
11:20 independent assisted living that are in
11:22 construction
11:23 the memory care is projected to open in
11:26 july and
11:28 the independent assisted living
11:31 november or december
11:33 we've also got some other projects in
11:35 the pipeline two and puyallup and second
11:38 one in yakima next to our memory care
11:41 and
11:43 what am i missing that's it
11:46 so um
11:53 yeah the history of this project we put
11:55 this land under contract in august of
11:57 2013 so we've been at this site for a
12:00 long time
12:01 our initial meeting with the city
12:03 triggered this archaeological survey and
12:08 and so you know
12:10 we've been at that since the beginning
12:13 got the survey done because there's
12:15 another site nearby
12:17 that came up when i think they cut that
12:20 road in
12:22 so qualified as a national site uh we we
12:25 ended up working with the state to get a
12:27 permit and and do
12:29 you know just kind of follow the process
12:31 there's this this dap permit that went
12:33 in and did further investigation to try
12:35 and identify
12:37 who was there when they were there what
12:39 they were doing there
12:40 because mainly because of that wetlands
12:42 area and a trail from
12:46 uh the sea to the eastern washington it
12:48 was kind of a main route for for a lot
12:50 of tribes so
12:53 we've been you know
12:54 basically
12:56 last week we got the final final report
12:59 and um where we ended up is we did data
13:02 recovery where we were going
13:05 where we're projecting our deepest
13:07 excavation at the site to be
13:09 swca was the consultant they went in
13:13 mined a lot of material
13:15 it was a lot of fire modified rock
13:18 we had one arrowhead
13:20 and
13:22 and that's really about it so it wasn't
13:23 anything too exciting i know they were
13:25 expecting more
13:28 but the landowner has actually requested
13:30 that that goes back to the snoqualmie
13:32 tribe and so
13:34 uh part of the mitigation that we're
13:36 working with the tribe is to do uh some
13:39 sort of a
13:40 presentation probably in our lobby area
13:43 of what the land was used for how it was
13:46 used and
13:47 basically an educational piece within
13:49 our community um and we'll we'll have
13:52 some of those artifacts there
13:53 as well so
13:55 um the only outstanding issues on that
13:58 it's it's basically a done
14:00 um a done
14:05 i don't even know what you call it it's
14:07 the final report is complete
14:10 the only piece that's outstanding is
14:12 construction monitoring so they'll
14:14 evaluate and be on site when we're
14:17 excavating to make sure we're just
14:19 digging in the areas we said we were
14:20 going to dig in
14:24 the wetlands obviously it's a huge
14:26 wetlands area you know the usable
14:28 acreage of the site is about you know
14:29 two and a half to three acres where the
14:31 site's uh significantly more so
14:34 one of the areas that we know we're
14:36 probably going to need to get an
14:38 administrative adjustment is the buffer
14:41 um it's 75 feet is the standard and
14:45 a reduction in that area
14:48 up to 75
14:49 percent i believe is the this the the
14:52 max would be 56 feet
14:55 our current site plan is around 60 feet
14:58 we're not we're not pushing it as far
15:02 as the 75 percent would allow but that's
15:04 one area that that
15:06 we know will need an adjustment for
15:10 the trees like jennifer said um
15:12 originally we thought we were going to
15:13 need an adjustment on that as well
15:16 i don't think that's going to be the
15:17 case we are still tweaking the footprint
15:20 slightly but it's not going to make
15:22 a huge difference on that retention
15:24 requirement
15:27 you know we've we've worked with the
15:28 sammamish plateau we've got our
15:30 certificates and we've actually got the
15:32 the development extension agreement
15:34 drafted it just needs to be executed so
15:36 we've got that work complete
15:39 and
15:40 and yeah we've had multiple meetings
15:42 with the staff
15:43 in the planning department and
15:46 you know
15:47 well over a year at this so
15:50 we've got a lot of good feedback from
15:51 them and have been through
15:53 multiple iterations of the site plan um
15:56 just to get here so
16:00 overview of the project you want to talk
16:02 about this one sure so it's a
16:05 can i can sure
16:07 each person when you speak for the
16:09 record keeping could you just say i'm
16:11 you've already got your name but just so
16:12 she the records will show who is
16:14 speaking yeah doug ellison speaking now
16:18 uh it's a 60 unit 68 bed alzheimer
16:21 dementia community that specializes
16:24 in in alzheimer's dementia and
16:26 parkinson's
16:28 it's a private pay community we
16:32 wanted to have the majority of the units
16:35 private studio units so there's no not
16:38 two people in a room
16:42 it's a one story forty two thousand
16:44 square foot we're licensed by dshs
16:48 and we
16:49 work with the department of health
16:52 with our drawings our architectural
16:55 design etc to make sure we meet all the
16:57 standards
16:58 with that um
17:00 the building is a unique building it um
17:04 let me
17:05 see where the photo where are you
17:08 there's photos at the end here yeah yeah
17:10 go the next slide
17:13 okay
17:16 let's go here so we we've created this
17:19 environment that um with alzheimer's and
17:22 dementia there's a lot of anxiety
17:24 um there's you know
17:27 all kinds of issues associated with the
17:29 disease and when you take people out of
17:31 the community to the doctor's office or
17:34 to town
17:36 it's
17:37 there's a lot of anxiety with them so we
17:40 want to create an environment where
17:42 we had town the town actually built
17:45 inside the building and so this is the
17:47 center of the building we have a theater
17:49 we've got a 50s diner we've got an art
17:51 studio that they can come and do
17:53 paintings and crafts we've got a hair
17:55 salon spa
17:57 we have a serenity room the serenity
17:59 room is for hand massages with
18:02 alzheimer's and dementia sometimes
18:03 there's some agitation so we do some
18:05 hand massages and and calms them down a
18:08 bit
18:09 that's the center of the building and
18:11 then the wings that go off of the center
18:14 of the building
18:15 i and you probably have that in front of
18:17 you but
18:18 we have 20 foot corridors so instead of
18:20 a hallway
18:22 that's six foot which is required
18:24 minimum requirement by the state
18:26 we have 20 20-foot hallways where they
18:28 come out
18:29 and there's activities and and different
18:31 living spaces in that big corridor
18:35 that too is is because of the anxiety
18:38 you come out to this narrow hallway you
18:40 get claustrophobic
18:42 and so we've created this this
18:44 environment to really
18:46 benefit the disease and
18:50 so we're excited about it
18:52 and on the on the living areas there's a
18:54 great room dining living room with a
18:57 fireplace a solarium kind of a sun room
19:00 area
19:01 and this is all
19:03 with a courtyard in the middle for
19:05 outdoor activities it's all secured with
19:08 walking paths and we're going to have
19:09 some flower beds and raised beds where
19:12 they can
19:13 plant flowers and vegetables etc so
19:17 that's what that is and i think that
19:19 other slide was
19:21 that's our courtyard in yakima
19:25 water feature in the middle kind of a
19:27 potting shed on the outside area here
19:31 this is the bottom picture is the
19:33 corridor
19:34 that wide corridor where they come out
19:36 of their rooms they're able to play
19:38 games and you know puzzles and different
19:41 things and we have different colors
19:43 there's a blue color green
19:45 there's three different colors and it
19:47 helps them remember what you know color
19:49 their room is it kind of draws them to
19:51 that
19:52 they also have memory boxes
19:55 that are outside each of the rooms that
19:58 have their name and pictures of their
19:59 family etc
20:01 some of the artwork you see in the
20:03 middle there
20:04 we've gone to the local museum in yakima
20:07 and um
20:08 they gave us the rights to print reprint
20:10 a bunch of pictures from the ark you
20:12 know agriculture days you know back in
20:14 the
20:15 old time yakima days so that there's
20:18 memories and that sort of thing we're
20:19 going to do the same thing here
20:21 you know the izakawa area get some
20:23 history and that sort of thing in there
20:27 you see the dining room on the left and
20:29 fireplace there on the right
20:34 so let's go back here that's an aerial
20:36 shot of the building
20:39 on the front of the building we have the
20:40 stacked stone
20:42 um you know we have
20:45 the cedar
20:46 siding as well as the
20:48 board and bat as well as the um
20:51 what's the other setting we got on that
20:53 shape shake and so it just
20:55 kind of breaks it up a little bit makes
20:57 it more unique we have several different
20:59 colors some greens and taupes
21:03 just to make it a rich looking building
21:07 yeah and this is justin yonker again
21:10 you know
21:12 we've put a lot of thought into this
21:15 building and and trying to do things a
21:17 little differently we've also been the
21:20 first community in the state to be
21:23 approved for uh it's called the the ge
21:25 intel quiet care system it's technology
21:28 it's it's motion uh based technology
21:31 that that grabs on to um
21:36 what's the you know the routines of the
21:39 residents and when things outside of
21:41 those routines
21:43 come up it sends a page to caregivers so
21:46 if it's uh
21:48 abnormal trips to the bathroom or
21:50 somebody's in the bathroom for an
21:52 extended period of time it's kind of a
21:54 proactive tool using technology you know
21:57 that's actually
21:59 we've had multiple times in our yakima
22:01 community where it's really you know
22:04 saved a resident you know they're
22:05 getting help in
22:06 five minutes whereas you know the rounds
22:09 every hour so it might have been 45
22:11 minutes that they would have been
22:12 sitting there so
22:14 pretty cool stuff um
22:18 that's an overview here and then you
22:20 know kind of just our typical staff
22:23 you know we'll have an executive
22:24 director that oversees everything
22:26 director of community relations which is
22:28 the sales and marketing piece an office
22:30 manager
22:32 the director of nursing obviously the
22:34 healthcare component is the biggest
22:36 component most of our staff are
22:38 caregivers so that's a that's a key role
22:41 the resident care coordinator kind of
22:43 helps with the d.o.n on
22:46 assessments paperwork there's lots of
22:49 paperwork you know with each new
22:50 resident and care plans and revised care
22:53 plans
22:55 life enrichment coordinator that's a key
22:58 position
23:00 keeping our residents engaged
23:02 we've got a lot of
23:04 great space in our buildings and
23:07 utilizing it
23:08 one other thing about the building
23:11 you know our
23:12 we have so many visitors coming in
23:14 because it's it's kind of a unique thing
23:16 it's fun kids like it you know that town
23:19 square i mean people just really enjoy
23:21 it we've had
23:23 chamber of commerce events
23:25 board member meetings i mean it's
23:27 getting utilized by more than just you
23:30 know
23:31 resident family members so
23:33 that's pretty nice
23:35 the head chef
23:36 obviously you know
23:39 you know room and board covers all the
23:41 meals housekeeping
23:45 you know and then just a maintenance
23:46 person so that's kind of our general
23:49 staffing schedule
23:52 you know the this building in yakima is
23:54 laid out in a u-shape but all of those
23:57 components the town square the great
23:59 room and the the resident wings all of
24:01 that is incorporated into the issaquah
24:04 building it's just laid out a little
24:05 differently so
24:08 i think that's all we have so if you
24:09 guys have questions or want us to
24:11 elaborate
24:14 uh actually i'll
24:17 start because i do have a question do
24:19 you have uh jennifer do you have an uh
24:22 identification
24:24 of uh
24:26 the
24:27 it just says from dean i i guess these
24:29 are all all three of these questions are
24:32 from the same person
24:36 yes that was the only public comment
24:39 that i received it was i received it via
24:42 email and it was anonymous
24:45 with the exception of the email address
24:47 okay
24:48 so it'd be hard to get just hit reply
24:52 right but i do uh i wanted the
24:56 first issue that he brings up or she
24:58 brings up the ponds feed into issaquah
25:01 creek
25:03 and i know there's extensive uh
25:05 material in here about the wetlands and
25:08 the where the water goes and the plans
25:11 to retain stormwater runoff but could
25:13 you go over those a little bit please
25:14 for us and then also specifically
25:17 the concern that was expressed by this
25:19 member of the public that that wetland
25:21 area drains into issaquah creek and
25:24 eventually and that there is a concern
25:27 about any pollutants that might get into
25:29 the wetland area sure
25:31 don would you mind addressing these sure
25:38 my name is dawn dawes i'm with barghouse
25:40 and engineers our address is 18215 72nd
25:45 avenue south in kent washington
25:51 so regarding
25:52 that
25:53 let me grab that real quick
26:02 regarding that question
26:05 about the water quality
26:08 our proposal is to
26:11 provide
26:13 detention and water quality for the
26:15 development per the city's requirements
26:18 which based on
26:20 our review so far as level 2 flow
26:22 control
26:23 for the detention and sensitive lake
26:26 water quality standards so
26:29 that water from the develop site is
26:31 going to be
26:32 treated
26:33 and detained before it
26:35 leaves the site
26:37 which
26:38 the water will be discharged to that
26:41 wetland
26:43 because that's where the water goes
26:44 currently
26:48 so it's percolation
26:51 treat we say treated what what what does
26:53 that mean we have um
26:56 for the sensitive lake water quality
26:58 standards we're proposing to use a
27:00 combined detention and wet vault
27:03 the wet bulk part
27:04 is dead storage and that is like the
27:06 first
27:08 water quality system the second water
27:09 quality system in that
27:12 system is a
27:14 sand filter vault
27:15 and and and then the water is released
27:17 from there
27:21 and
27:22 uh jennifer would you look at tell us on
27:24 the record about the second concern that
27:27 was raised about the zoning
27:29 let's get that on the record
27:34 i'm christopher wright with the
27:35 development services department
27:39 i can't speak to the frequent power
27:41 outages comment but i can speak to the
27:44 the zoning
27:46 question
27:47 and basically when um the north issaquah
27:50 area was annexed into the city
27:52 around 2000
27:54 we adopted at the time
27:56 what we call comparable zoning so the
27:58 most similar zoning to what the king
28:00 county
28:01 zoning designations were and i don't
28:03 think we've changed them since so
28:06 um it it is true that there's a you know
28:09 three or four different zoning
28:11 designations just in a pretty small area
28:14 compared to the rest of the city but
28:15 that's really
28:16 mostly we just inherited that from king
28:18 county
28:20 all right thank you
28:22 are there any other
28:23 questions clarifications observations by
28:26 members
28:27 absolutely yeah
28:29 thank you mr chairman um you mentioned
28:31 about a sun room
28:35 doug or justin
28:36 yeah
28:37 is that what's being proposed here
28:40 um while you're thinking the sun room
28:42 and i i want to ask you is there a
28:45 kitchen
28:46 and then how's your
28:47 supply going to route into the facility
28:51 traffic wise
28:53 so the sun room is is really
28:55 larger glass windows there's no sun roof
28:59 area at all no glass on the roof but
29:01 it's just kind of a little sitting area
29:03 with wicker furniture
29:05 off the courtyard we just call it the
29:08 solarium kind of sunroom it's not
29:12 necessarily all glass with sun coming
29:14 through
29:15 do you have that in the
29:17 plan right now
29:18 yes
29:20 yeah it's um
29:29 okay
29:36 i don't know if it'll help but i think
29:37 it will
29:41 is that a little better
29:44 can you kind of show where it is in this
29:45 light plane there
29:46 yeah so can you where how do i oh the
29:49 arrow here
29:51 can you see the arrow here
29:53 so um
29:55 this is the great room here
29:57 where the dining room is and it's just
29:59 this little l-shaped room right here
30:02 that's just
30:03 kind of tucked away here that's glass in
30:05 front it overlooks the courtyard
30:09 wicker furniture just kind of different
30:12 style
30:13 that's what we call our sunroom it's not
30:17 a glass enclosed sunroom so much but it
30:21 lets more light in and it's right off
30:23 the courtyard
30:25 okay does that answer your question
30:27 uh yeah i couldn't
30:30 i was having the same problems you have
30:32 trying to locate the sunroom so this is
30:34 an interior sunroom looks correct it's
30:36 just inside the building oh just a room
30:38 with a lot of glass
30:40 correct
30:41 window
30:42 correct um and then your second question
30:44 i'm sorry the kitchen
30:46 how do you function
30:49 as far as the residents are
30:51 who are living there do they
30:53 come down and have a dining room set
30:56 meals they do so we have a commercial
30:59 kitchen
31:00 that is
31:03 i need to
31:05 i need uh better glasses here
31:08 blow this up here a little bit
31:14 yeah do you mind zooming in sorry
31:17 we have a commercial kitchen that that
31:19 cooks all the meals every day
31:21 we have two little kitchenettes
31:24 that are in the great rooms
31:26 and i'll point them out here
31:30 so if you can see
31:31 this is a dining area for this
31:34 area right here
31:36 there's it looks like a little island
31:38 right here there's a little kitchenette
31:39 right there where
31:40 the caregivers life enrichment
31:43 coordinators etc
31:45 have the residents come in and bake
31:47 cookies and
31:49 that sort of thing there's an oven
31:51 and a
31:52 not a stove top and an oven and a
31:54 microwave there which is on an emergency
31:58 shutoff switch so it actually has a
32:00 timer a key
32:03 so that the residents can't just come up
32:04 and start messing with microwave and
32:06 oven so
32:08 that's what that's for the commercial
32:10 kitchen
32:11 which is on the i believe the
32:14 let me look closer here
32:16 yeah this is a commercial kitchen here
32:19 you got your hood
32:23 food prep area and dish room here
32:26 this that kitchen is
32:28 state of the art has everything doesn't
32:31 have a walk-in
32:32 cooler but it has the
32:34 true three-door fridges and freezers and
32:38 everything a kitchen would need so all
32:41 the meals are prepared there
32:43 three meals a day we also
32:46 have sandwiches and
32:48 snacks and treats and yogurts etc that
32:51 is available to residents 24 7 because
32:53 with alzheimer's and dementia
32:55 you don't always get up at seven o'clock
32:57 and have breakfast at a normal time so
32:59 we provide meals 24 7 essentially
33:07 and
33:08 i guess the reason why i'm going through
33:09 this is that you know i i want to make
33:12 sure i want to understand how you
33:13 operate sure you have 60 uh residents
33:17 correct okay uh you provide meals
33:20 uh the earlier
33:22 area that you were pointing i take it
33:24 it's a snack area
33:26 24-hour snack it's a great sit-down meal
33:29 correct whereas the kitchen
33:31 the kitchen will provide hot meals
33:33 breakfast lunch and dinner
33:36 so do you have a dining room for the 60
33:40 residents we have two dining rooms okay
33:42 so what we have
33:44 this wing here
33:46 has its own dining room and graves this
33:48 this would be the sun room i was talking
33:50 about
34:00 so both both wings are
34:03 have their own
34:04 dining room kitchenette
34:08 great room living room with a fireplace
34:10 and solarium
34:12 and so
34:14 30 of the the residents would be on one
34:16 side 30 on the other so they're two
34:18 separate dining rooms that we hot cart
34:20 food from the main kitchen area to those
34:22 and the caregivers serve
34:25 all the residents three meals a day okay
34:27 and so if a resident gets up at 10
34:29 o'clock in the morning and wants
34:30 breakfast we have breakfast available
34:32 for them
34:34 you know and we have snacks at midnight
34:36 if they get up at midnight because a lot
34:38 of times they don't sleep at night too
34:40 we want to provide them food and
34:42 nourishment
34:44 24 7. okay that kind of shows you the
34:47 dining room there yeah
34:49 yeah
34:50 this is justin yonker that it's you know
34:52 really uh trying to create a residential
34:55 home-like feel with the great room you
34:56 know an open concept home where you've
34:58 got your dining your living room
35:01 and your kitchen all in one spot yeah
35:03 yeah so then my next question is how do
35:06 you
35:06 how do you come in with your supply
35:08 route and how do you process the food
35:11 and how do you dispose of your garbage
35:14 so uh where's your garbage dumpster
35:17 located and how's the garbage truck
35:20 coming in to
35:21 take care of your garbage
35:24 yeah this is justin again right now here
35:26 the kitchen's located here we've got a
35:29 service truck
35:30 stall here
35:32 and
35:33 dumpster i believe is proposed over here
35:35 so it's all in this area
35:37 right here
35:40 nearest to that that kitchen entrance
35:42 door
35:44 yeah like u.s foods will deliver
35:46 food daily or whenever we order it
35:49 they'll go right through the service
35:51 door and and then our garbage you know
35:54 recycle cardboard and do as much
35:55 recycling as we can and then there'll be
35:57 a garbage dumpster there
36:00 so that would be your your uh service
36:02 entrance exit
36:04 access uh courtyard sounds like uh
36:08 like like that area would be your
36:10 serious area
36:17 20 bucks i'll let you use it
36:20 don't you have one in over there
36:23 yeah so yeah that's something i i guess
36:25 uh would be nice to know where it's
36:27 located how how how the truck comes in
36:31 process all the food
36:33 in and out
36:36 and then the view that's going to affect
36:38 the neighbors
36:41 yeah and so it's on it's obviously on
36:43 this side of the building
36:45 uh which this whole side no neighbors
36:48 can see it
36:50 again this is doug
36:55 the site closest to the road of course
36:57 will just be entry into the building and
37:01 obviously landscaping will be beautiful
37:04 and this is justin so along this you
37:06 know we've got our kitchen here we've
37:09 relocated a few common area rooms we
37:11 actually have an exam room our laundry
37:14 facility
37:18 the med storage so it's it's rooms that
37:20 aren't resident rooms and you know so
37:22 you don't have a resident room that's
37:23 looking right out at the service that
37:25 actually is how how it's done in yakima
37:28 and it's not ideal so we changed that
37:30 with this
37:31 with this floor plan
37:34 thank you mr chairman any other
37:36 questions
37:37 well the
37:38 west west of issaquah falls city road on
37:41 that intersection is a
37:42 fairly large condominium complex or
37:45 townhouse complex and i was just
37:47 wondering about the architectural
37:49 concern of of looking at some kind of
37:51 uniformity or consistency with that or
37:54 it sounds like it it was being designed
37:56 as a fairly independent standalone kind
37:58 of thing are you thinking of it have you
38:00 looked at across the street i guess is
38:02 my question we have we have
38:06 um in terms of our design you know we
38:08 have little bump outs
38:10 different roof lines on that side and
38:12 this is doug again i'm sorry
38:15 that really break up that side of the
38:16 building so it's not just one long
38:19 nursing home looking feel if you will
38:23 with the stacked stone and
38:25 different
38:26 sidings with different colors to really
38:28 dress it up so
38:31 it'll look a lot nicer than a
38:33 across the street
38:36 and this is justin i believe they've got
38:38 a fence
38:39 all the way along that area which
38:43 i mean i don't know
38:46 you know we're going to be right up
38:48 against there and have it landscaped up
38:50 into the sidewalk so it's going to be
38:52 very presentable more than a than a
38:54 white fence anyway so
38:58 were you were you wanting something that
39:00 was compatible with a neighboring
39:02 property or
39:03 just wondering just concerned that you
39:06 were looking you know yeah it wasn't
39:08 obvious it sounds like you are i
39:10 appreciate it and we've talked with the
39:11 planning department also that you know
39:14 doing something with that corner because
39:15 that's a
39:16 heavily trafficked corner a lot of
39:19 you know traffic coming into the
39:20 highlands and into issaquah and so um
39:23 doing something a little bit special
39:24 there
39:26 just because of that
39:30 if i follow up on that question on the
39:32 uh because jennifer you had made a
39:34 mention i think in the report about one
39:36 of the elevations needing some more
39:38 fenestration is that that
39:41 i'm thinking right is that that north
39:43 west side along is fall city road you're
39:46 thinking about yes it was and it's it
39:48 you know it comes down to the final
39:50 product when we get to sdp what what is
39:52 the product that they're showing us and
39:53 if there is more modulation required if
39:56 it requires some landscape texturing
39:59 something like that we'll look at it at
40:01 that time but yeah it may need some more
40:03 okay i wondered yeah i wondered if you
40:05 could actually pull up the elevation
40:08 on the screen just so we can let's see
40:12 our
40:13 pictures
40:16 make sure that's the one
40:18 that's yours yeah
40:27 yeah sorry i can't
40:29 uh come close so
40:32 this is stackstone here this is the
40:35 shake that's a different color you know
40:38 we got these different roof lines here
40:40 if you go to the staff report i think
40:42 it's got an elevation you can show yeah
40:52 there we go perfect
40:55 yeah so there's our our rendering and
40:57 then
41:00 is this is this one better is that what
41:02 you want to look at is
41:04 is that so with the lower
41:06 an elevation left side on the lower
41:09 elevation shot not there but the just to
41:11 the right of it in the the drawing right
41:13 there there you go is that the one you
41:14 were talking about jennifer
41:17 oh facing the
41:18 this is facing the parking lot
41:21 right right here
41:25 it's television that has the windows and
41:28 but you think it's
41:29 not enough breaking it out
41:46 thank you i'm sorry
41:48 we we may require more we didn't have um
41:51 the actual modulation counts and didn't
41:53 know how much it was right so it was
41:56 more of an fyi if we need to we can
41:58 condition this um for more articulation
42:00 later but
42:03 it just depends on what they come out
42:04 with in their final product okay thank
42:06 you if i can follow up on commissioner
42:08 morgan's question i on the uh on the the
42:12 architectural drawings that we got
42:14 the uh
42:18 drawings that are
42:19 titled courtyard elevation details
42:22 and i think it's the next one down or
42:24 one or two there okay yep right there
42:27 okay the bottom one the bottom right uh
42:30 jennifer that
42:32 that wall
42:33 on the left of that structure
42:35 is kind of striking because there's a
42:37 lot of wall there yeah now i it
42:40 that's because that's a courtyard
42:43 elevation so that's an internal wall is
42:46 that what i understand from
42:49 looking at this or is that that would be
42:50 the end of the resident wing but i can i
42:55 know that we've tweaked this floor plan
42:57 and we actually have some
42:59 modulation and it is staggered
43:03 it isn't a one flat service on the end
43:06 but that's the
43:07 end of the resident wings okay so you
43:10 that drawing has been modulated since we
43:14 got this or since this was sent to the
43:16 city right what's it look like now just
43:18 just um
43:20 one of the units um goes out more
43:24 yeah and there's another roof line on it
43:28 and the other end of these this is doug
43:30 the end of these actually don't aren't
43:32 shown or won't even be noticed from the
43:34 road
43:36 it goes into the forest side
43:39 so you know where the highlands drive
43:41 goes down and there's that
43:43 big embankment you won't even see the
43:45 building from the road yeah and that was
43:47 my that was my question if it's an
43:50 internal uh exposure on this then the
43:53 concern is not
43:54 as great as it is for external facades
43:58 that that public and passers-by and
44:00 neighbors would see so that was my
44:02 question about whether or not the
44:04 courtyard is basically
44:07 in an internal
44:09 area where the public can't see that
44:12 wall with the two windows in it
44:25 so the wall they're discussing
44:28 is i'm going to run over to the screen
44:30 because i don't have a pointer
44:34 right here okay
44:36 and it's not it's not visible from from
44:38 the road
44:39 right and this
44:41 this wing this end here and this end
44:44 here
44:45 and
44:46 yeah there's there's enough topography
44:49 here that from highlands drive you can't
44:52 you can't see in here okay all right
44:55 and i also want to just point out the
44:57 elevation that staff was worried about
44:59 is this one
45:01 i'm gonna run back over to the screen
45:02 you're jennifer right there
45:06 gotcha
45:09 there is less tree cover in that area
45:12 on the east side of the property there's
45:14 a large berm and a lot of
45:16 a lot of trees a lot of new trees and a
45:18 lot of old older trees
45:20 so it's and it's also elevated quite
45:24 high there's a very large berm there and
45:26 i can go back to the site photos if you
45:27 want to see i'm actually standing on the
45:29 trail if you need to
45:31 thank you
45:36 i've got a question about parking
45:39 escape uh
45:41 unless you want to stay with site
45:43 designer
45:44 come
45:46 did you have a question about site
45:47 design
45:49 yes
45:51 i think
45:56 the fire access have you guys
45:59 there's an awful lot of it's talked
46:01 about here about
46:02 model a
46:04 computer model will have to be done
46:07 turn radius we're required to meet fire
46:09 code perimeter walkway
46:12 all that stuff meet already have you
46:14 done this so that that fire that fire
46:16 trucks will be able to get in there and
46:17 get around and
46:19 it already meet the requirements
46:21 yeah so
46:22 mark
46:23 lawrence was in two of our meetings um
46:26 so he's provided a lot of feedback
46:29 this is a 90 degree
46:31 i believe it's called the 90 degree
46:34 radius here which is one of the app fire
46:37 apparatus
46:38 standards you know you got your hammer
46:40 heads and all that so that that is the
46:42 90 degree
46:44 turn around and then we've got
46:47 what what he's proposed is
46:50 walkways around the entire community if
46:53 it's not within 150 feet of the truck
46:56 with knock boxes and a tie-in so they
46:59 can just you know carry their hoses
47:01 around and tie
47:02 right into the fire line okay
47:05 and
47:06 i'll ask jennifer i i got very confused
47:09 over the tree preservation paragraph
47:12 and i'm still confused
47:15 um page seven of nine you talk about the
47:18 30 of the total caliber significant
47:20 trees is retained
47:23 according to the tree and preservation
47:25 code 30
47:28 and then the next page it says
47:35 required to retain 25 and then the
47:38 numbers none of those numbers added up
47:40 to me so
47:41 i just ignore all that and everything's
47:43 fine with the trees
47:46 yes
47:50 yes sir um i i did make in my
47:52 presentation i tried to clarify a little
47:54 bit but the short of the long is that
47:57 they very much meet the tree retention
47:59 requirements okay thank you
48:04 um so the parking question first for uh
48:06 jennifer a question on
48:09 it says that there's 44 stalls required
48:12 and they're providing 44 but then
48:13 there's a comment that says
48:15 additionally more parking stalls may be
48:17 required than shown in order to meet the
48:20 code
48:21 provisions for minimum parking they
48:23 didn't understand because it sounded
48:24 like we said they're meeting code but
48:26 more may be needed to meet code
48:29 so parking provisions are based on
48:33 employees at the max shift and on the
48:35 number of units provided
48:37 and so if any of those numbers change by
48:40 the time we get to sdp the parking
48:43 numbers may also change so i you know
48:45 while i say it meets the requirements we
48:48 don't necessarily know that until we get
48:50 to the decision-making period okay great
48:52 thank you then the question for the
48:54 applicant i guess your experience for
48:56 what it sounds like you've provided
48:58 exactly enough for the minimum
49:00 was your experience with parking
49:03 um at your yakima facility well i guess
49:05 you're not a hundred percent yet but
49:07 because what's your what's your feeling
49:09 about the 44 being required is that more
49:12 than enough
49:13 sort of right out enough or yeah this is
49:15 justin so we've got 48 on our current
49:18 site plan with with small tweaks but
49:21 obviously none of our residents drive so
49:23 we're talking about staff visitors and
49:26 then the occasional service so um
49:29 of any
49:30 multi-family type
49:32 building
49:34 memory care
49:35 has the least amount of traffic
49:39 you know the good thing that we have
49:40 lots of visitors
49:42 i think we'll use the parking spaces but
49:46 you know we we went through our staffing
49:48 model in in detail at stabilization
49:52 um with the the standard of of
49:56 one parking space for every two units
49:59 um and that's where we got the 44. um
50:02 it just so happened that it
50:04 ended up because we're we're utilizing
50:06 this this space uh to the max um
50:11 do you think it'll be an adequate number
50:12 then
50:13 yeah um you know another thing that that
50:16 um we've talked about um
50:19 the transit center down the road you
50:21 know
50:22 our largest
50:23 staff uh population is caregivers
50:26 they don't make a ton of money
50:28 this is a you know anywhere from 10 to
50:31 15 job
50:33 they probably don't live in the
50:34 highlands and so having that just down
50:37 the road is going to be a huge benefit
50:39 from a staffing perspective because it's
50:41 convenient
50:42 you know we've got a community bus we
50:45 will have a community bus which
50:47 even on staff changes could provide
50:50 transportation from the transit station
50:51 if they don't want to walk so
50:53 we've talked about that aspect of it as
50:56 well you've got a bus stop at the other
50:58 side of the street the intersection too
50:59 so yeah so so the transit to this
51:01 location is um is really good right okay
51:05 thank you then the other question i had
51:07 had to do with um
51:09 access to isquad falls city road as you
51:10 mentioned it's a very busy road
51:13 especially at rush hour
51:15 fairly high traffic volumes it um it
51:18 couldn't tell from the site plans but it
51:22 just from the location it didn't seem
51:24 like those driveways would line up
51:26 between the condo complex and this
51:29 project
51:31 and i wondered uh if you've looked at
51:33 any traffic models would you have to do
51:36 a write-in write-out only or
51:39 um just your sort of thoughts on that
51:42 yeah i think we are doing a write-in
51:44 right out only oh okay
51:46 yeah
51:49 yeah otherwise it could take a half hour
51:50 to get across yeah yeah just to follow
51:53 on commissioner morgan's question are
51:54 the are your shifts going to be
51:58 rush hour time types of shifts uh so
52:02 are they going to be different so
52:05 theoretically they wouldn't be
52:06 coinciding with russia yeah first shift
52:08 is six a.m to two
52:11 and uh the the two o'clock when that
52:14 shift ends
52:16 the staff actually don't leave until 2
52:18 30 because it's a switch over your the
52:21 the new shift comes in at two
52:23 the that shift leaves at 2 30 and
52:26 there's that handoff
52:28 patient handoff if you will
52:31 the next shift starts at i believe eight
52:34 o'clock
52:36 no 10 o'clock
52:38 it's
52:39 it's slightly off those peak hours
52:42 really to answer your question and and
52:44 when we were using that
52:47 because the parking had a the max
52:49 resident count which actually our
52:51 highest staffing is in the morning
52:53 um you know getting people up and ready
52:55 to go so
52:56 um but those peak hours if you're
52:58 talking you know
53:01 four to six in the evening we'd be at
53:02 the end of it and we're out you know six
53:05 a.m hopefully they'll be arriving at 5
53:07 45-ish so
53:09 so uh
53:11 the write-in right out i just want to
53:12 make sure i understand
53:14 you're the right in the traffic would be
53:16 coming to the north east from the
53:20 southwest on fall city road right turn
53:22 into the facility any traffic exiting
53:25 the facility on the ischool city road
53:27 which is the only way in and out right
53:28 that's there's one one egress
53:31 ingress
53:32 and they would turn right
53:34 correct okay this is doug yes
53:37 and it you know um with the loop around
53:39 a black nugget back out to fall city
53:42 road it's a you know i mean just getting
53:44 around that whole area you've got to do
53:46 that not just for this site
53:51 on the parking i notice that you talk
53:53 about
53:55 barrier barrier-free parking is that an
53:57 addition to the 44 i thought i counted
53:59 44 plus two handicapped parts
54:02 and is two the
54:05 right number for that number of parking
54:08 because it's a medical facility i don't
54:10 know what the
54:11 jennifer i'm not sure what the code says
54:13 in regards to how many they need
54:22 when we calculate the number of required
54:24 stalls the uh the handicap stalls are
54:27 counted in that so if we if the code
54:29 requires 44 stalls that includes however
54:32 many are required for
54:34 accessibility
54:36 i'm not sure offhand whether that's
54:38 meeting the the we we rely on the the
54:41 uniform building code to tell us how
54:43 many handicap stalls there need to be so
54:45 that's something we absolutely check at
54:47 the site development permit stage to
54:49 make sure they have enough okay
54:52 other questions
54:54 i have one one more the is there going
54:56 to be some
54:57 security
54:59 consideration for the wetlands there to
55:03 prevent deter residents from
55:06 wondering
55:07 what you know getting in there and not
55:09 being able to get out
55:12 this is doug yeah they won't have any
55:14 access to it this is a lockdown building
55:17 the only access to the out of doors they
55:19 have
55:21 is to the courtyard which is all fenced
55:23 and secured with mag locks and and the
55:26 whole nine yards and every time a door
55:28 opens in this building for a resident to
55:31 go into the courtyard
55:33 all the pagers go off so all the all the
55:35 caregivers will be notified and we have
55:38 a radio system that clears
55:40 when someone goes out so
55:43 they'll be supervised going out the
55:44 front door to go to a doctor's
55:46 appointment or go on a bus ride they'll
55:49 all be supervised so
55:51 in the courtyard then when they're in
55:53 the courtyard that's also supervised it
55:55 is also supervised
55:57 okay
55:59 in your
56:01 just to follow on to one of the
56:02 questions the frequent power outages
56:05 do you have
56:07 alternate power
56:08 at this location if you're relying a lot
56:11 on this electronics modern technology
56:15 doors opening and closing and if power
56:17 goes out what happens
56:20 you have a standby generator that kicks
56:22 in do you have that available or do you
56:24 just rely on
56:25 huge power eventually getting it fixed
56:28 yeah this is justin we've done it both
56:30 ways in yakima we don't have a generator
56:32 but we've got
56:33 obviously the state needs to know what
56:35 your emergency plan is we've got
56:38 alternate methods of heat through
56:39 natural gas
56:40 battery-powered lighting that sort of
56:42 thing
56:44 our kenwick assisted living building
56:46 which is adjacent to the memory care we
56:48 do have a generator so
56:50 taking that into context
56:53 will probably lean in that direction
56:54 towards the
56:57 thank generator
56:59 um thank you mr chairman uh question i i
57:02 know that this is a privately funded
57:05 facility
57:07 but yet you still need to go through the
57:08 department of health washington
57:10 department of department of health um
57:12 and is do they have a ratio of how many
57:15 units single units and how many that's
57:18 double units i
57:20 you provided eight i think that's
57:23 double
57:27 eight units that come
57:30 companion rooms and then the rest 52 are
57:33 single ones so do they have a ratio that
57:36 says
57:37 if you provide this facility you should
57:38 have a
57:41 correct ratio or something like that
57:43 this is doug no there is no requirement
57:46 most
57:47 alzheimer dementia communities are
57:49 double
57:50 units and it's for
57:52 profitability and and cost reduction
57:56 we're taking it a step further and
57:58 wanting the the residents to have their
58:01 own private rooms with alzheimer's and
58:03 dementia sometimes
58:06 they want to have a roommate it calms
58:09 them so we want to have that option as
58:11 well and it is a price point too
58:14 if it is a shared unit it is less
58:16 expensive for the family members or
58:19 whoever's paying their their way this is
58:21 a private pay building medicaid is not
58:24 part of this building at this point
58:26 we'll have
58:29 probably 10 percent
58:31 medicaid
58:33 that will be grandfathered in after
58:35 we're open for a year
58:37 and they'll be you know when as people
58:39 spin down their income
58:42 we're never going to put someone on the
58:43 street if they run out of money so we
58:45 will have some medicaid units but
58:47 that'll be a year after we open
58:51 so if you run out of patience that's a
58:53 alzheimer
58:56 i don't know if you will or not
58:58 but just say if you would and so you
59:00 have some vacant rooms do you take in
59:03 elderly with other disease then
59:07 no this is focused just on alzheimer's
59:09 dimension parkinson's which parkinson's
59:12 is a related you know a lot of people
59:14 with parkinson's end up with the lewy
59:16 body or the alzheimer dementia
59:19 part of it so
59:21 yeah no we
59:22 this is a focused care
59:24 okay yeah it's hard to to mix
59:27 populations
59:30 yeah and do you have medical staff that
59:32 would take care of any emergency then
59:35 absolutely 24 7
59:38 yep all the caregivers med techs rn
59:43 yep
59:44 so this is a 24 7
59:47 care
59:48 yep thank you
59:52 any other questions
59:54 observations
59:58 nothing nothing
1:00:03 we're going to do a round of comments
1:00:06 yes that's we're into the comment phase
1:00:09 now i think we've got everything
1:00:10 clarified
1:00:11 right so we'll go into uh comments and
1:00:13 observations
1:00:16 as far as i'm concerned it looks like
1:00:18 you've done a good job of me of
1:00:20 considering the aspects i like the
1:00:22 sighting of it i think
1:00:24 i think the traffic control is going to
1:00:26 be an issue i drive that intersection
1:00:28 every day several times and and
1:00:31 but with black diamond being an
1:00:33 opportunity to be able to go back around
1:00:34 that right in right out makes pretty
1:00:35 good sense to me i think you're that's
1:00:37 going to work well that looks good to me
1:00:40 thank you
1:00:43 thank you mr chairman um
1:00:45 i i like the design uh i think i would
1:00:48 do the same thing with the parking next
1:00:50 to the pond
1:00:52 uh you provide a real nice view as you
1:00:54 come in you have this on rather than
1:00:57 putting somewhere else
1:00:59 i like the
1:01:01 uh to degree the modulation i i think
1:01:03 you can do more i like the idea of
1:01:06 having the
1:01:09 person unit as they
1:01:12 set out
1:01:14 so that that breaks the the long wall
1:01:16 that you have i do have concern about
1:01:19 your service area
1:01:21 because i think where you have it where
1:01:23 you're thinking about having it that's
1:01:25 where you have a few of those units
1:01:26 that's
1:01:28 uh that's right there and i
1:01:30 i suspect there's probably you know the
1:01:33 truck coming in
1:01:35 unloading and loading a supplies and
1:01:38 picking up garbage that's where it's
1:01:40 going to happen and that's where you
1:01:41 have your three
1:01:43 residence
1:01:45 unit that's there so you might want to
1:01:47 kind of look at that
1:01:49 um i like that 20 20-foot corridors that
1:01:52 you mentioned
1:01:53 that's a wide corridor and i take it
1:01:55 there's a lot of things that's happening
1:01:56 in that corridor where you create this
1:01:59 facade that's a ceiling
1:02:05 i see on the plan that you have a clear
1:02:07 story
1:02:08 so i'm trying to think how are you going
1:02:10 to incorporate the clear story with the
1:02:12 uh the ceiling that you're
1:02:14 enhancing to to create this uh
1:02:17 interior uh street assad
1:02:21 so i'm not sure how
1:02:22 how you would
1:02:23 approach that although i'd like the idea
1:02:26 so either clear story or this
1:02:29 this interior facade
1:02:31 that's a good idea and then i think it
1:02:33 would be very pleasant for the residents
1:02:38 again you know i think you've done a
1:02:40 good job
1:02:43 there's still some things that you need
1:02:45 to kind of look at it and that's the
1:02:46 service area
1:02:49 then the sun room
1:02:53 i'm kind of surprised that you call
1:02:54 interior room every
1:02:56 sunroom
1:02:57 to me a sunroom is something that's
1:02:58 exposed to the outside
1:03:00 where it sounded like it's an interior
1:03:02 room which with a lot of windows
1:03:05 interior windows and you call that a sun
1:03:09 i would call it a
1:03:11 library a reading room or something
1:03:12 instead of a sunroom but the thought of
1:03:15 a sun room is probably good for patients
1:03:19 the well-being of the patients being
1:03:21 outside looking out in the courtyard and
1:03:24 if you can create something nice in that
1:03:26 courtyard that would be very
1:03:28 ideal for the residents
1:03:30 for the well-being and you probably have
1:03:32 some activities there that
1:03:34 help the
1:03:36 residents
1:03:38 in that courtyard that would be good and
1:03:40 something directly
1:03:42 that leads them out into the courtyard
1:03:45 but overall i think it's a good design
1:03:49 thank you
1:03:51 morgan
1:03:52 well first of all thank you very much
1:03:53 for coming in and for your presentation
1:03:55 greatly appreciated and
1:03:58 appreciated all the process you've been
1:03:59 going through with in the explanation of
1:04:01 the archaeological digs i didn't realize
1:04:03 you'd have to do that much
1:04:06 i think you've got a very nice looking
1:04:08 project it seems like an excellent fit
1:04:10 for this site which is a fairly
1:04:12 difficult island of a piece of property
1:04:14 to work with
1:04:16 and so i think it's a great fit and i
1:04:19 very much like your building design the
1:04:21 materials you've used the modulations
1:04:24 i drive this road every day i don't
1:04:26 think you need to be concerned about
1:04:27 trying to match the design of the condos
1:04:30 across the street it's a good distance
1:04:32 there is a wall there as you've
1:04:33 mentioned and i don't think this
1:04:35 building has to perfectly match that
1:04:37 anyway so
1:04:38 i think you've come up with an
1:04:40 attractive building and i agree with
1:04:41 staff's comments about what sounds like
1:04:44 we'll just find more detail in some of
1:04:45 that modulation but i think it's all
1:04:47 looking very good the
1:04:52 my main concern would be the access
1:04:54 actually probably off of iskwa falls
1:04:56 city road i think people coming onto
1:04:58 this guelph all city road taking a right
1:05:00 um can time things well enough my
1:05:02 concern would be people
1:05:04 that are turning on esqua falls city
1:05:06 road and somebody two cars back that
1:05:08 doesn't see a signal that's going 40
1:05:10 miles an hour and didn't realize the car
1:05:12 two cars ahead was going to
1:05:14 stop and take a 90 degree turn in
1:05:17 so anything you can do in engineering
1:05:19 that whether it's a
1:05:20 more of a curved entry
1:05:23 into the site or if there's a way to get
1:05:25 a deceleration lane or something like
1:05:29 just hopefully to prevent some of those
1:05:31 rear end accidents that might happen
1:05:36 and uh the
1:05:38 i i guess finally i very much appreciate
1:05:40 the fact that it's a northwest company
1:05:42 doing it not a large national firm so
1:05:45 thank you very much
1:05:48 she said yes i i echo commissioner
1:05:51 morgan's comments thank you
1:05:53 i particularly appreciated the pictures
1:05:55 of what your existing facility looked
1:05:57 like because
1:05:59 unfortunately
1:06:01 the the staff report and what we got is
1:06:03 a little
1:06:06 what we normally see
1:06:09 i would like to have seen a bigger a
1:06:10 better presentation of what the
1:06:13 room layout was like
1:06:16 i still don't have a clue as to where
1:06:18 the dining room is
1:06:20 from what you guys said i i
1:06:23 i mean it's it's an initial phase an
1:06:25 awful lot of the things we saw
1:06:28 in the staff report
1:06:30 lighting have to be determined the
1:06:32 parking has to be
1:06:34 finished up uh the loading space has to
1:06:37 be determined where that is a lot of
1:06:38 this is
1:06:40 to be determined
1:06:41 and so we're we're sort of playing in a
1:06:44 vine on a sort of a macro scale what the
1:06:47 project looks like i think it's a
1:06:49 wonderful design
1:06:51 from from
1:06:53 care from taking care of somebody with a
1:06:55 problem
1:06:56 looks very livable
1:07:00 your entrance lobby looks similar to
1:07:02 what i saw at paris
1:07:04 in las vegas with the
1:07:07 clouds in the sky and a movie theater
1:07:10 over here and
1:07:12 how much does it cost because maybe
1:07:15 anyway anyway i thought it was a great
1:07:17 job and i think it's a good project for
1:07:18 that site particularly when you consider
1:07:20 what you're going to have to do to
1:07:21 adjust for the wetland area i think
1:07:23 you're maximizing the particular piece
1:07:25 of property about the best you can
1:07:27 thank you
1:07:28 thank you um i also agree with all the
1:07:30 comments have been made i think this is
1:07:32 a very appropriate sighting our use of
1:07:35 the site uh particularly with the
1:07:37 wetland there
1:07:39 and i i do have one question and just a
1:07:43 clarification i should have brought up
1:07:45 earlier but for traffic that is heading
1:07:48 northeast to southeast on fall city road
1:07:50 in other words toward towards town
1:07:53 uh what's to preclude them from trying
1:07:55 to make a left-hand turn into the
1:07:57 facility
1:08:01 across in other words go cut across a
1:08:04 oncoming traffic
1:08:06 let's look at the road
1:08:11 so you'll notice there's a turn lane
1:08:15 and this is just the existing conditions
1:08:17 this is not what's going to be required
1:08:19 in in terms of improvement so this is
1:08:21 just existing conditions
1:08:24 there is a i think it's a double yellow
1:08:26 line through the center and a turn lane
1:08:28 up as you get closer towards the
1:08:30 intersection here
1:08:32 jennifer can you show approximately
1:08:34 where the entrance is going to be
1:08:36 or can somebody please
1:08:40 so so there's a there's they what you're
1:08:43 saying is they can't make a legal left
1:08:46 uh i think i think they're going to be
1:08:48 constrained by the left the double left
1:08:50 turn lane to go on on the
1:08:53 fine lake road okay which starts it
1:08:55 really goes back pretty far right and
1:08:57 around the south the se the southeast
1:08:59 right there is about where it starts
1:09:02 all right well that that was that was my
1:09:03 concern that that it might be called a
1:09:05 right in and right out but that
1:09:08 you know people might still try to make
1:09:10 a left-hand turn in there and that's a
1:09:11 real issue this has been noted it's a
1:09:13 very busy road
1:09:18 um the
1:09:21 issue i want to make real sure this has
1:09:23 come up in the past and this is just an
1:09:25 observation um the the issue of
1:09:28 notification in the packet it said that
1:09:31 the staff sent out notification to 70
1:09:36 i don't remember the exact number but a
1:09:38 specific number of
1:09:40 people there
1:09:41 that are neighbors
1:09:43 and uh i don't know if there was also
1:09:46 i've i don't travel that road very much
1:09:49 but i was up there the other day and i
1:09:50 happened to remember that the site was
1:09:52 there and i drove around it and i didn't
1:09:54 see a street sign saying that there's
1:09:56 going to be development can you remind
1:09:58 me of what the requirement is there
1:10:02 yeah there's different public notice
1:10:03 requirements depending on where the
1:10:05 project is in the application process
1:10:08 and uh for community conference it only
1:10:10 requires the mailing within adjacent
1:10:13 property owners within 300 feet
1:10:15 when they apply for their site
1:10:16 development permit that's when it kicks
1:10:18 in a whole nother level of newspaper ad
1:10:21 proposed land use action signs
1:10:23 well as you know that's that's a ongoing
1:10:25 concern of mine because frequently we
1:10:27 we've in the past we've heard uh people
1:10:30 whose primary complaint was that they
1:10:32 didn't their neighbors and their
1:10:34 five feet off the line and they didn't
1:10:36 know anything about it so just as long
1:10:38 as we've got that covered uh when it
1:10:40 comes to the actual application and what
1:10:42 we've seen here tonight i agree with my
1:10:43 fellow commissioners i was
1:10:46 quite impressed with the fact that the
1:10:49 building does not seem to be
1:10:51 imposing itself on any of the neighbors
1:10:53 there this structure particularly being
1:10:55 a one-story facility
1:10:57 automatically as far as i'm concerned
1:10:59 mitigates a lot of what we tend to pay
1:11:01 attention to which is sight line and uh
1:11:04 vista obstruction and that that kind of
1:11:06 thing so right off the bat when i saw it
1:11:08 was a one-story facility i thought well
1:11:10 that's that's going to be and then my
1:11:13 understanding of the site is it's going
1:11:14 to be uh there will be enough tree
1:11:16 retention in there to further mitigate
1:11:18 the view uh from it it's also impressed
1:11:20 by the fact that you said you're not
1:11:22 going to have a sign or at least at this
1:11:23 point there's not going to be a major
1:11:26 signage that obviously that will be
1:11:28 required if you do
1:11:30 but uh the fact that you've taken
1:11:32 what appears to be a low-key approach to
1:11:35 fitting into the neighborhood would
1:11:36 would go along with that
1:11:38 it's not against the sign obviously
1:11:39 people are going to have to know where
1:11:40 the facility is when they're coming in
1:11:42 there
1:11:43 the material itself
1:11:47 frankly reflects the pacific northwest
1:11:50 and this may be a
1:11:51 factor of the that you're a northwest
1:11:54 company
1:11:54 but uh a lot of times we end up
1:11:58 suggesting that the that the applicant
1:12:00 consider more
1:12:02 use of stone and and uh things like that
1:12:05 so the fact that you've come in with
1:12:07 that is
1:12:08 is nice it uh it fits
1:12:10 it's in
1:12:11 kind of our vision of what we'd like to
1:12:13 see up there
1:12:14 so all in all
1:12:16 i think the
1:12:17 concerns that the commission has had
1:12:20 have been answered by both the staff and
1:12:23 the applicant i very much appreciate
1:12:25 your coming in and giving us the
1:12:27 presentation and the level of detail and
1:12:29 willingness to answer the questions that
1:12:30 you have
1:12:33 that if there are no more observations
1:12:36 or questions
1:12:38 and there were no members of the public
1:12:40 here tonight um
1:12:41 so jennifer just on the
1:12:45 what is the process for you for staff to
1:12:47 you hit reply to that automatically and
1:12:52 report to this person what was said i
1:12:54 mean normally they're here and they you
1:12:57 know hear what their concerns how their
1:12:59 concerns were addressed so
1:13:01 when he when the person emailed me i
1:13:04 responded via email letting that person
1:13:06 know that i would be passing this
1:13:09 information on to the commission making
1:13:10 sure that it became an attachment to the
1:13:12 staff report so that person knows that
1:13:15 my intention was to to bring it forward
1:13:18 i'm happy to respond to him
1:13:20 that's not necessary
1:13:21 the primary thing as far as i know is
1:13:24 we want the any any member of the public
1:13:26 that goes to the trouble of expressing a
1:13:28 concern or an issue or an observation
1:13:31 that they understand that it was brought
1:13:33 to the commissioner's attention okay
1:13:36 all right
1:13:37 mr chair i wonder if the applicant would
1:13:38 have any questions of us or any
1:13:40 clarification good point
1:13:42 anything that you need from the
1:13:44 development commission in terms of
1:13:46 clarification for
1:13:49 maybe the why we ask certain questions
1:13:54 uh i don't think so thanks for your time
1:13:56 as well all right
1:13:58 what did you guys
1:14:02 i'd like to take credit for that but it
1:14:04 wasn't us
1:14:06 there is in issaquah there is an urban
1:14:08 village development commission
1:14:10 that uh was chartered several years ago
1:14:13 specifically to look at that type of uh
1:14:17 of development that was uh it's
1:14:19 obviously clearly defined and there are
1:14:21 two it's talus in the highlands there
1:14:24 are two
1:14:25 uh of urban villages in in issaquah now
1:14:29 and uh the highlands is the larger the
1:14:31 two the other one is on state road 900
1:14:33 between us and renton
1:14:35 but that's a separate commission and
1:14:38 their work has been nationally
1:14:39 recognized too on a number of occasions
1:14:42 all right
1:14:44 all right well with that if there being
1:14:47 uh no more comment uh again we thank you
1:14:50 very much for uh your concern and for
1:14:52 your presentation and we understand that
1:14:54 you're going to be working with the city
1:14:56 uh with the staff a lot more and we'll
1:14:58 look forward to seeing what comes out of
1:14:59 this with that we'll declare the meeting
1:15:01 adjourned
1:15:08 yeah i think this is
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