City Council Mobility & Infrastructure Committee · Tuesday, August 9, 2022 · City Council Digest

3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Approval of minutes of July 12, 2022

packet pp.5–6

Open packet at p.5 ↗

Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 07-12-22 City Council Mobility & Infrastructure Page (0000) Committee Minutes CITY OF ISSAQUAH City Council Mobility & Infrastructure Committee 6:30 PM Council Chambers, 135 E. July 12, 2022 MINUTES Sunset Way, Issaquah WA

4. AGENDA ITEMS

Newport Way Maple to Sunset Improvements, Corridor Concept ID 1197

45 min · Shuo Wang, Senior Engineer, Public Works John Mortenson, Transportation Engineering Manager, Public Works · packet pp.7–130

Topics: Transportation

▶ Watch from 5:16 Open packet at p.7 ↗

Staff report:

The Administration recommends the Mobility and Infrastructure Committee to approve the Newport Way final design concept and recommend City Council adopt the final design concept at the September 6th regular meeting.

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0:10 ↗ great good evening

0:12 ↗ welcome everyone i'm councilmember joe

0:14 ↗ and welcome to the august 9th mobility

0:17 ↗ and infrastructure meeting i'll call the

0:18 ↗ main order at 6 30.

0:21 ↗ the first thing on the agenda is public

0:23 ↗ comment

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0:30 ↗ of the public may address

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1:03 ↗ closing this portion of the meeting

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1:07 ↗ wishes to raise their hand

1:10 ↗ i see connie marsh you want to go ahead

1:12 ↗ and come on up to the

1:14 ↗ lectern and

1:15 ↗ identify yourself and you have five

1:17 ↗ minutes

1:21 ↗ okay i'm connie marsh and i live up on

1:23 ↗ squawk and

1:24 ↗ my understanding from the agenda is that

1:26 ↗ we also get to speak after the questions

1:29 ↗ of the of the main things so uh what i

1:32 ↗ wanted to talk about initially is the

1:35 ↗ concept of a pedestrian grid in flatland

1:39 ↗ issaquah which

1:41 ↗ newport way borders that and

1:45 ↗ we are creating a grid structure in our

1:48 ↗ development but at this point in time we

1:50 ↗ haven't really found a way to get people

1:52 ↗ across the street so that they can

1:55 ↗ actually travel distances easily in this

1:59 ↗ grid system so when i imagine

2:02 ↗ our central esqua area which is somewhat

2:04 ↗ bounded by newport way

2:06 ↗ i expect that we'll actually be able to

2:08 ↗ get across newport way along with that

2:11 ↗ same basic 250

2:13 ↗ foot

2:14 ↗ grid and that it is going to become of

2:17 ↗ our highly part of our highly mobile

2:21 ↗ system and we're going to have

2:22 ↗ businesses potentially along that area

2:25 ↗ that can

2:26 ↗ thrive because it has an extra layer of

2:29 ↗ way of people to get to their businesses

2:32 ↗ right so

2:33 ↗ we do have a a you're going to ignore

2:36 ↗ what this is but this is a development

2:38 ↗ that is a proposed development that

2:41 ↗ shows a sketch of a roundabout

2:45 ↗ on newport way and i was

2:48 ↗ sort of fascinated and stunned to see

2:51 ↗ what this might do to impact existing

2:53 ↗ businesses because it's not very

2:55 ↗ personal when you look at a a just a

2:57 ↗ configuration of a road so i brought

3:01 ↗ this little map and i'm going to fold it

3:03 ↗ over and i wanted to hand that to you

3:05 ↗ before this discussion um began to sort

3:09 ↗ of give a better three-dimensional

3:11 ↗ glimpse of what life might look like

3:14 ↗ for

3:15 ↗ for people on newport way in the future

3:17 ↗ thank you the map will be marked as

3:19 ↗ exhibit a

3:22 ↗ people

3:30 ↗ i'll make sure the clerk gets the copy

3:32 ↗ of it yes cody can i have a copy please

3:37 ↗ very good

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4:02 ↗ uh chair joe there are no virtual

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4:10 ↗ seriously and we factor them in the

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4:31 ↗ three

4:32 ↗ in our agenda which is the approval of

4:34 ↗ the minutes from july 12

4:36 ↗ 2022

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4:39 ↗ of the committee

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4:44 ↗ modifications clarifications

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4:52 ↗ motion to approve um the minutes as

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5:10 ↗ move on to the next item on the agenda

5:11 ↗ then

5:13 ↗ moving right along

5:16 ↗ okay this takes us to agenda item id one

5:20 ↗ nine seven one one nine seven excuse me

5:23 ↗ newport way maple to sunset improvements

5:26 ↗ corridor concept we have senior engineer

5:28 ↗ from public works wang and also mr

5:31 ↗ mortensen from transportation

5:33 ↗ engineering uh transportation

5:34 ↗ engineering manager from public works

5:36 ↗ good evening to you both

5:40 ↗ good evening

5:42 ↗ thank you for having us here thank you

5:43 ↗ for the introduction council member joe

5:46 ↗ i'm john mortensen transportation

5:48 ↗ engineering manager i have with me showa

5:50 ↗ wang who is the city's

5:53 ↗ newest senior transportation engineer

5:55 ↗ she is now the project manager for this

5:57 ↗ project before she would join the city i

6:00 ↗ was the project manager and so we're

6:01 ↗ going to split our presentation

6:03 ↗ and i'm going to cover the stuff up

6:05 ↗ until she was hired and then she will

6:08 ↗ cover the rest of the material

6:15 ↗ tonight i'm here to talk about the

6:17 ↗ newport whey maple to sunset project

6:22 ↗ the outline for tonight's item is to

6:25 ↗ talk about the purpose of the item

6:28 ↗ the direction needed

6:30 ↗ discuss the project goals and policy

6:32 ↗ impact

6:33 ↗ a little bit of background about the

6:34 ↗ project will be provided

6:37 ↗ and then we'll get into what is the

6:39 ↗ final proposed concept for newport way

6:41 ↗ between maple and sunset

6:44 ↗ followed by a discussion of the public

6:46 ↗ outreach that was conducted

6:48 ↗ recently

6:49 ↗ and that followed by timing and next

6:52 ↗ steps

6:54 ↗ the purpose of the item tonight is to

6:56 ↗ seek recommendation from the committee

6:59 ↗ to the city council on the preferred

7:01 ↗ concept

7:04 ↗ and the direction needed

7:06 ↗ the administration requests direction

7:08 ↗ from the mobility and infrastructure

7:09 ↗ committee on the final design concept

7:12 ↗ for newport way between maple and sunset

7:15 ↗ there are three options the first option

7:17 ↗ is to concur with the design concept

7:19 ↗ with no additional changes

7:22 ↗ recommend that the city council adopt

7:24 ↗ the preferred concept

7:26 ↗ the second option is to revise the

7:29 ↗ proposed design concept

7:32 ↗ and then the

7:33 ↗ third option is to delay the project

7:38 ↗ the project goals and policy impact

7:42 ↗ as we work to put together this project

7:45 ↗ and come up with our design concept we

7:47 ↗ really looked at the mobility as a

7:49 ↗ project design team we looked at the

7:51 ↗ mobility master plan

7:52 ↗ as well as the climate action plan

7:57 ↗ and we really the project's goals are to

7:59 ↗ improve mobility within issaquah prepare

8:02 ↗ the city for future growth

8:04 ↗ better connect disqua with the region

8:06 ↗ promote environmentally sustainable

8:08 ↗ sustainable mobility

8:10 ↗ and reduce greenhouse gas emissions

8:15 ↗ high level

8:16 ↗ of what the project is

8:19 ↗ i have a map here that shows the project

8:21 ↗ the project is located in yellow it goes

8:24 ↗ from

8:25 ↗ the intersection of maple which is near

8:27 ↗ target and trader joe's

8:29 ↗ all the way to sunset

8:33 ↗ with intersections at

8:36 ↗ holley

8:37 ↗ juniper and dogwood and at those three

8:39 ↗ intersections we're proposing

8:41 ↗ roundabouts

8:42 ↗ the project also includes a second

8:45 ↗ southbound lane that would go from the

8:47 ↗ intersection of

8:49 ↗ newport and maple

8:51 ↗ to 900 feet south of hawley

8:56 ↗ it would construct

8:58 ↗ curb gutters sidewalk landscaping

9:01 ↗ as well as a separated bicycle lane for

9:04 ↗ the bicycles

9:08 ↗ a little bit of background on the

9:09 ↗ project and

9:10 ↗ this is a project that the city has had

9:14 ↗ planned for many many years and we're

9:16 ↗ going to give you the abbreviated

9:18 ↗ version of the history starting with

9:20 ↗ 2009 because it actually goes

9:22 ↗ much further than that

9:24 ↗ the city initiated a corridor study and

9:27 ↗ did a lot of community involvement

9:29 ↗ between

9:30 ↗ 2009 and january

9:33 ↗ 2011

9:35 ↗ at that time a preferred concept was

9:37 ↗ adopted by the city council

9:41 ↗ a little more than a year later the city

9:43 ↗ council adopted the central issaquah

9:45 ↗ plan

9:46 ↗ and

9:47 ↗ the two plans

9:50 ↗ both

9:51 ↗ spoke the newport way mapled a sunset

9:53 ↗ concept that was adopted in january 2011

9:57 ↗ and the central essaquah plan actually

9:59 ↗ conflicted with what they said should

10:02 ↗ happen on newport way that the january

10:05 ↗ 2011 concept had a second southbound

10:08 ↗ lane

10:09 ↗ it had the three roundabouts

10:11 ↗ and

10:12 ↗ the

10:14 ↗ central issaquah plan

10:16 ↗ identified newport way as a parkway

10:17 ↗ which said generally will have one lane

10:20 ↗ in each direction although it

10:22 ↗ didn't specifically say it had to

10:25 ↗ and then it also

10:27 ↗ oh i guess i i got to back up the 2011

10:29 ↗ concept one of the big things that came

10:31 ↗ out of it from the public involvement

10:33 ↗ was not to have a center median that it

10:36 ↗ was a cost-benefit discussion and the

10:39 ↗ community really did not want it and so

10:41 ↗ it was not in there and then the central

10:44 ↗ squad plan put the center median back in

10:47 ↗ now centralized squad boundary includes

10:50 ↗ the part of the project that goes from

10:52 ↗ maple to hawley and when i have another

10:54 ↗ exhibit i'll i'll show that once you get

10:56 ↗ south of hawley you're outside of

10:58 ↗ central esqua so that no longer applies

11:01 ↗ then

11:01 ↗ in 2018 the city got some design funds

11:04 ↗ for the project

11:06 ↗ as a project design team we started

11:08 ↗ trying to think of how can we

11:10 ↗ merge these two

11:12 ↗ adopted sections for newport way

11:14 ↗ the

11:16 ↗ 2011 concept in the central isquad

11:19 ↗ parkway for newport and we came up with

11:21 ↗ a concept at the time

11:24 ↗ it was i think a really good concept for

11:26 ↗ newport way but it was very expensive so

11:29 ↗ we went back to the drawing board and

11:30 ↗ said how can we preserve the goals of

11:32 ↗ the project and reduce costs and reduce

11:35 ↗ the footprint of what we would be

11:36 ↗ constructing and that's how we came up

11:38 ↗ with the concept that we're going to

11:40 ↗ discuss tonight

11:46 ↗ this map shows a general overview of the

11:48 ↗ project we're going to talk about the

11:50 ↗ three different or the four different

11:52 ↗ sections that are color coded

11:56 ↗ and

11:57 ↗ as i mentioned

11:58 ↗ i think this is a good time to see that

12:00 ↗ the part that's in central esquad goes

12:02 ↗ from maple

12:03 ↗ to hawley that's in central squad and

12:05 ↗ then once you get past

12:07 ↗ we're outside of central issaquah the

12:10 ↗ first section this is the one that's in

12:12 ↗ the light blue color

12:15 ↗ and it goes from maple

12:17 ↗ to

12:19 ↗ towards the south towards holly

12:21 ↗ and on this section

12:23 ↗ it has the two southbound lanes and in

12:26 ↗ order to accommodate transit the outside

12:29 ↗ lanes are 11 feet wide for the extra

12:31 ↗ width for the buses mirrors but then in

12:33 ↗ order to keep speeds down

12:35 ↗ the inside left southbound lane is 10

12:39 ↗ feet wide because slope smaller lanes

12:42 ↗ reduce speeds and make it safer for

12:44 ↗ pedestrians and bicycles

12:47 ↗ the planter strip would then

12:50 ↗ be as a buffer between the travel lanes

12:54 ↗ and the bicycle lanes where a six foot

12:56 ↗ wide

12:57 ↗ protected bicycle lane would be next to

13:00 ↗ a six foot wide sidewalk

13:04 ↗ the second section

13:06 ↗ this is the section in red which goes

13:09 ↗ from holly

13:12 ↗ south 900 feet

13:14 ↗ this is really similar to section one

13:16 ↗ and the only difference is that on the

13:19 ↗ school side the sidewalk is eight feet

13:22 ↗ wide instead of six feet wide and that

13:24 ↗ came as a result of working with the

13:26 ↗ park board and the transportation

13:28 ↗ advisory board the park board was

13:30 ↗ involved because part of newport way is

13:33 ↗ part of the green necklace

13:35 ↗ and the mountains to sound greenway

13:36 ↗ trail and

13:38 ↗ so we wanted to make sure that the

13:39 ↗ non-motorized facilities would meet the

13:41 ↗ needs we

13:43 ↗ talked to the park board and the tab

13:45 ↗ about

13:47 ↗ different concepts for how to arrange

13:49 ↗ the non-motorized facilities and one of

13:51 ↗ the things that came out was a concern

13:53 ↗ of having the bicycle lanes next to

13:57 ↗ the school kids on the sidewalk and as

14:00 ↗ to mitigate for that concern we widen

14:02 ↗ the sidewalk

14:04 ↗ when we're within the vicinity of the

14:06 ↗ school to give extra room for the kids

14:08 ↗ to walk to and from school

14:12 ↗ the third section is the section in

14:14 ↗ purple which begins 900 feet south of

14:17 ↗ hawley

14:18 ↗ and

14:20 ↗ goes towards dogwood but doesn't quite

14:22 ↗ make it to dogwood this is where we have

14:25 ↗ one lane in each direction

14:27 ↗ on the

14:29 ↗ mountain side we still have a six foot

14:31 ↗ wide

14:32 ↗ protected bike lane with the sidewalk

14:34 ↗ next to it on the school side

14:38 ↗ a six foot wide bike lane

14:40 ↗ and the eight foot wide sidewalk

14:42 ↗ continues

14:45 ↗ the final section

14:46 ↗ is the section in green

14:48 ↗ which is just like the section before

14:51 ↗ with the protected bike lane sidewalk

14:53 ↗ one lane in each direction

14:55 ↗ the planner strip but the sidewalk has

14:57 ↗ gone down to

14:59 ↗ six feet from eight feet on the school

15:02 ↗ side

15:03 ↗ with the thought of at this point the

15:05 ↗ school the kids have dispersed enough

15:07 ↗ and they're spread out where we can go

15:09 ↗ back to trying to preserve the footprint

15:11 ↗ of the project

15:14 ↗ and

15:15 ↗ have it narrower

15:17 ↗ at this point i'm going to hand it over

15:19 ↗ to show us going to talk about the

15:21 ↗ community

15:24 ↗ engagement thank you john

15:27 ↗ before we leave the

15:28 ↗ the map sections

15:30 ↗ i just had a couple questions about

15:32 ↗ um that might have already been

15:34 ↗ discussed in

15:36 ↗ work before i came on council so my

15:38 ↗ apologies if you've already answered

15:40 ↗ these questions

15:42 ↗ has there been any discussion with the

15:44 ↗ school district in terms of

15:46 ↗ where they would like to see

15:49 ↗ crossings or any crossings

15:52 ↗ across newport there and a related

15:54 ↗ question

15:55 ↗ are there opportunities to have

15:58 ↗ pedestrians cross at the roundabouts

16:01 ↗ uh similar to the way we have it set up

16:03 ↗ at 43rd

16:05 ↗ southeast 43rd and east lake sammamish

16:07 ↗ parkway

16:08 ↗ if you could give us a little background

16:10 ↗ there yeah

16:12 ↗ at this point we haven't had discussions

16:14 ↗ with the school district about the

16:15 ↗ specific locations of the crossings

16:18 ↗ and we haven't

16:19 ↗ worked on the design of the crossings

16:21 ↗ that's something we want to get to for

16:23 ↗ the next steps

16:25 ↗ and then i think the second part of your

16:27 ↗ question was

16:29 ↗ will the roundabouts

16:31 ↗ accommodate pedestrian crossings

16:33 ↗ potentially there like we do at 43rd and

16:36 ↗ yeah east lake city

16:37 ↗ yes they they will have pedestrian

16:39 ↗ crossings and that's one of the

16:41 ↗ once we get past the concept point we

16:43 ↗ really want to dive into

16:45 ↗ a lot of our attention into how to

16:47 ↗ design these crossings that it's really

16:50 ↗ important with

16:52 ↗ roundabouts they can be good or bad for

16:55 ↗ pedestrians depending on the intention

16:58 ↗ and i actually think that roundabout at

16:59 ↗ southeast 43rd

17:01 ↗ and east lakes mamas parkway is a good

17:03 ↗ example

17:05 ↗ because the original design was not in

17:07 ↗ my opinion adequate for pedestrians and

17:09 ↗ that's why right now we have a

17:11 ↗ construction project improving the

17:12 ↗ crossings and take the lessons learned

17:15 ↗ from those along with other tools that

17:17 ↗ we've been looking at

17:18 ↗ in order to

17:20 ↗ design those crossings but i think

17:23 ↗ especially the one at holley with it

17:24 ↗ being right at the school that's going

17:26 ↗ to have a lot of

17:28 ↗ thought go into it knowing that it's

17:30 ↗ going to be a crossing for school

17:31 ↗ children

17:33 ↗ okay so potentially right now between

17:36 ↗ west sunset way and

17:40 ↗ basically

17:41 ↗ maple

17:42 ↗ there's only one designated crossing

17:44 ↗ which is a school light which is isn't

17:47 ↗ necessarily

17:49 ↗ up to full standard but it's a light

17:51 ↗ that you can push and cross there and so

17:53 ↗ that's only one crossing in that section

17:55 ↗ but if we look at this project we're

17:57 ↗ going to have three opportunities to

17:59 ↗ cross should it be approved is that yes

18:01 ↗ that's correct okay thank you very much

18:04 ↗ other questions before we leave the the

18:05 ↗ concept of the maps

18:08 ↗ council member yeah thank you and i have

18:10 ↗ a feeling that the answer will probably

18:13 ↗ be similar but

18:14 ↗ um

18:15 ↗ so i was really pleased to see that

18:17 ↗ there were the 11 foot width for buses

18:21 ↗ but my question is and it's probably

18:23 ↗ something that we need to work with

18:24 ↗ metro on but

18:27 ↗ would there is there any possibility of

18:29 ↗ um

18:30 ↗ does the width prohibit i guess there's

18:32 ↗ a better way to put it uh bus stops

18:34 ↗ along newport

18:36 ↗ it would not prohibit bus stops that you

18:39 ↗ know the the buses would need to stop in

18:42 ↗ the lane that we wouldn't have room for

18:44 ↗ pull-offs or buses but

18:46 ↗ it would allow for bus stops and

18:49 ↗ if in the future metro decided they

18:51 ↗ wanted bus stops

18:52 ↗ we would work with them to

18:56 ↗ put in bus stops where currently we

18:58 ↗ would have

18:59 ↗ planner strip

19:00 ↗ okay pro to to be determined in the

19:02 ↗ future yes

19:04 ↗ okay

19:05 ↗ um

19:06 ↗ and then uh just the

19:08 ↗ i noticed in the public um

19:11 ↗ comments and i know we'll get to this

19:13 ↗ but um

19:15 ↗ the two

19:16 ↗ we have two lanes going southbound and

19:18 ↗ then we narrow down again to just

19:21 ↗ two lanes going in two different

19:23 ↗ directions and it seemed like people

19:25 ↗ were very worried about that

19:26 ↗ bottlenecking um

19:29 ↗ so any any uh thoughts about uh

19:32 ↗ about how that's going to affect traffic

19:34 ↗ going south especially in the afternoon

19:37 ↗ when people are

19:39 ↗ that's a heavily used uh route and

19:42 ↗ you know i can imagine them coming in

19:44 ↗ and then it'll just bottleneck just

19:46 ↗ further down the road then

19:49 ↗ so we did a quite a bit of traffic

19:52 ↗ modeling

19:53 ↗ for the southbound traffic

19:55 ↗ and

19:56 ↗ i guess there's a couple of things that

19:58 ↗ the project will do and some things that

20:00 ↗ it won't do it won't solve the front

20:02 ↗ street congestion

20:04 ↗ i think an analogy front street is it's

20:06 ↗ a wall

20:07 ↗ and that this project won't solve the

20:09 ↗ front street wall but what it will do is

20:12 ↗ provide better access to the

20:14 ↗ side streets to promote mobility within

20:16 ↗ issaquah whether it's dogwood

20:20 ↗ holly or juniper

20:22 ↗ and we also spent a lot of time looking

20:25 ↗ at where to put the merge point

20:27 ↗ of where that southbound lane stops we

20:30 ↗ looked at

20:31 ↗ a number of options we said well what

20:33 ↗ happens if we just keep it where it's at

20:35 ↗ and we

20:36 ↗ don't extend this southbound lane and

20:39 ↗ what we found is

20:40 ↗ that would cause problems at the

20:42 ↗ intersection of newport and maple we

20:44 ↗ looked at trying to

20:46 ↗ put it a little bit towards juniper and

20:48 ↗ that also caused problems and we we

20:51 ↗ found the taking it to hawley was the

20:53 ↗ right spot to accommodate future growth

20:56 ↗ and like i said it does not solve the

20:58 ↗ existing problem at front street and

21:01 ↗ my opinion even if we didn't if we

21:03 ↗ extended it all the way to

21:05 ↗ front street i still think we would have

21:08 ↗ congestion from it um

21:10 ↗ but this will accommodate the future

21:12 ↗ growth that's coming in the city and i

21:14 ↗ guess i'll make sure did i answer your

21:17 ↗ question or yes thank you very much

21:19 ↗ thank you

21:21 ↗ okay thank you for uh

21:23 ↗ allowing us to ask those questions we'll

21:25 ↗ go on to senior engineer wong and

21:28 ↗ her portion of the presentation thank

21:30 ↗ you

21:31 ↗ good evening council members and members

21:33 ↗ from the communities um my name is joan

21:36 ↗ i'm the new transportation engineer for

21:37 ↗ the city since may so i'm going to cover

21:39 ↗ the community community engagement part

21:42 ↗ so in the summer of 2022 the project

21:45 ↗ team conduct a series of community

21:47 ↗ engagement events including updated

21:49 ↗ project website online survey and a

21:52 ↗ virtual open house the goal of the

21:54 ↗ public outreach is to inform the public

21:56 ↗ about the project timeline project

21:58 ↗ design concept but also to gather

22:01 ↗ community input and

22:03 ↗ and build relationships

22:05 ↗ so as we can see various notification

22:08 ↗ tools has been used to promote this

22:10 ↗ project and communicate community

22:12 ↗ engagement so you can see the left

22:14 ↗ there's a

22:15 ↗ the shows the facebook page

22:18 ↗ we promote the

22:19 ↗ online survey

22:21 ↗ and to the right there's a

22:24 ↗ individual mail

22:25 ↗ letters uh postcards we send it to the

22:28 ↗ committee along newport way and we also

22:30 ↗ post our

22:31 ↗ survey

22:32 ↗ link to the newsletters emails and send

22:35 ↗ flyers

22:37 ↗ over 700 people visit our project

22:39 ↗ website since the updates

22:41 ↗ the website provides a project overview

22:44 ↗ project timeline funding

22:46 ↗ final design concept and

22:48 ↗ project history the website also

22:51 ↗ the price of the website is i'll provide

22:53 ↗ the link to the survey and um

22:57 ↗ registration link to the virtual open

22:59 ↗ house so during the three month three

23:02 ↗ weeks online survey period 196 people

23:04 ↗ participate the survey the survey is

23:06 ↗ also available in chinese and spanish

23:10 ↗ next page shows the survey results we

23:14 ↗ have

23:15 ↗ the survey

23:18 ↗ the server basically

23:20 ↗ try to learn from the public about how

23:22 ↗ does the final design concept meet your

23:24 ↗ needs as a quarter user

23:28 ↗ 66 thinking the overall design is just

23:31 ↗ right to improve connectivity within the

23:33 ↗ community for our users

23:35 ↗ 7 7 74 think the design provide a

23:39 ↗ comfortable walking distance walking

23:41 ↗ night work and experience for pedestrian

23:44 ↗ 42 thinking the i think the protected

23:46 ↗ bike lane improvement meets their needs

23:50 ↗ the driver improvement is slightly lower

23:52 ↗ but still

23:53 ↗ 60 percent 25 thinking the final design

23:56 ↗ concept does not do enough for drivers

24:00 ↗ the other 13 percent thinking the final

24:02 ↗ design concept that too much for the

24:03 ↗ drivers

24:05 ↗ about 55 percent of survey respondents

24:08 ↗ provide comments the comments are common

24:11 ↗ topics are roundabout design a

24:13 ↗ pedestrian bike facility second

24:15 ↗ southbound lane safety improve

24:17 ↗ improvements

24:18 ↗ the takeaway from the survey is the

24:20 ↗ majority of the survey respondents think

24:22 ↗ the project does the right amount to

24:24 ↗ improve the connectivity

24:26 ↗ will meet the needs for both motorized

24:28 ↗ and non-authorized users in the along

24:30 ↗ the newport

24:32 ↗ import way

24:35 ↗ and

24:36 ↗ on july 13 we host virtual open house in

24:40 ↗ the very beginning we provide a project

24:41 ↗ overview and attendees

24:44 ↗ can

24:45 ↗ invite you to join the breakout session

24:47 ↗ the virtual section we talk about the

24:49 ↗ project question

24:50 ↗ citywide questions and traffic analysis

24:52 ↗ questions

24:54 ↗ the some main topics including concern

24:57 ↗ about stormwater stormwater capacity

25:00 ↗ second southbound lane merging point

25:02 ↗ traffic capacity along the corridor

25:06 ↗ bike and pad crossing at the roundabout

25:08 ↗ location and right-of-way impact to the

25:10 ↗ adjacent property owners

25:12 ↗ the

25:13 ↗ virtual open house work as intended to

25:16 ↗ share the project final design concept

25:18 ↗ with the community and also to build

25:20 ↗ relationship collect feedback from the

25:22 ↗ community and also create awareness of

25:24 ↗ the project timeline

25:26 ↗ for the timing and next step

25:29 ↗ um

25:32 ↗ we we are we're planning to bring this

25:34 ↗ topic to the city council in september's

25:37 ↗ meeting and if the council adopt the

25:39 ↗ concept the project will move to

25:40 ↗ engineering design in the winter of 2022

25:43 ↗ and the administration will also

25:45 ↗ continue working on the cost-saving

25:47 ↗ ideas

25:48 ↗ including retaining wall heights and

25:51 ↗ underground in the overhead utilities

25:56 ↗ if you just hold on for a second council

25:58 ↗ member

25:59 ↗ deputy president excuse me all you have

26:01 ↗ a question thank you whichever works for

26:03 ↗ me um

26:04 ↗ so for

26:05 ↗ the for in terms of next steps working

26:07 ↗ on this cost saving ideas which brought

26:09 ↗ down the cost

26:10 ↗ dramatically i was surprised to see how

26:12 ↗ much it brought it down but the

26:13 ↗ retaining walls that's part of our title

26:16 ↗ 18 update so that'll be

26:18 ↗ completed in this calendar year the

26:20 ↗ undergrounding

26:21 ↗ was part of the street standards update

26:23 ↗ right what's the timeline for for that

26:29 ↗ ideally i'd like to have it go parallel

26:31 ↗ with title 18 for a couple reasons one

26:34 ↗ of the reasons is

26:36 ↗ part of the title 18 update requires the

26:39 ↗ street standards to be updated

26:41 ↗ and

26:42 ↗ so that's my ideal world um but then it

26:46 ↗ could take a little longer on that one

26:48 ↗ but

26:49 ↗ very similar time rate but most likely

26:51 ↗ this year yes okay thanks

26:56 ↗ and uh i had a question just in terms of

26:58 ↗ the the

27:00 ↗ depth of the study so to speak um it

27:02 ↗ looks like we had 47 people registered

27:05 ↗ for the engagement and 24 people showed

27:08 ↗ up which is about average for

27:11 ↗ normal community meetings i was

27:13 ↗ wondering

27:14 ↗ 82 percent of the people that did the

27:16 ↗ online survey were city residents um i

27:19 ↗ couldn't find how many participants

27:22 ↗ total we had it's probably in there but

27:24 ↗ i just couldn't find it do you know the

27:26 ↗ total number of uh people that

27:28 ↗ participated in the online survey

27:30 ↗ 196 people 196. okay thank you that

27:33 ↗ gives me some good background

27:35 ↗ appreciate it

27:39 ↗ i'll move on to the last slide we have

27:41 ↗ um so the direction we needed tonight

27:44 ↗ from the console from the committee is a

27:46 ↗ direction to move on to move forward

27:49 ↗ with the project

27:50 ↗ the option one is

27:52 ↗ the staff recommended option

27:54 ↗ uh committee concurs with the design

27:56 ↗ concept with no additional changes

27:58 ↗ recommended city console to adopt

28:00 ↗ option 2 revise the final design concept

28:03 ↗ option 3 delay the project

28:05 ↗ thank you

28:07 ↗ thank you very much to both of you for

28:09 ↗ that

28:10 ↗ presentation

28:12 ↗ we'll start with

28:13 ↗ council questions

28:15 ↗ and then

28:16 ↗ after that we'll go to

28:18 ↗ any comments from

28:20 ↗ the public so

28:22 ↗ anyone on the committee have additional

28:24 ↗ questions at this point

28:35 ↗ okay deputy council president hall thank

28:38 ↗ you

28:39 ↗ uh john a few um weeks ago we had a

28:42 ↗ member of the community write in about

28:45 ↗ speed limits

28:47 ↗ within the design of these roundabouts

28:50 ↗ and i was wondering if you could speak

28:51 ↗ to that for the committee a little bit

28:54 ↗ yes

28:55 ↗ so following the email from the

28:57 ↗ community member i reached out to the

28:59 ↗ design team and

29:01 ↗ asked what was the roundabout design

29:04 ↗ speed when we had the 2018 concept and

29:09 ↗ he had said he had following the washdot

29:12 ↗ roundabout design manual and it ended up

29:14 ↗ coming to about 16 miles per hour

29:19 ↗ that was the design speed for traffic

29:21 ↗ inside of the roundabout

29:30 ↗ i'll go ahead and ask a question i don't

29:32 ↗ know if you'll be able to answer it

29:34 ↗ necessarily

29:37 ↗ when i was a prosecutor for some of the

29:39 ↗ local cities we used to call roundabouts

29:42 ↗ kind of

29:43 ↗ dui detectors

29:45 ↗ in the sense that when people were

29:47 ↗ impaired

29:48 ↗ they thought the road was straight and

29:50 ↗ will often just run right over

29:53 ↗ a roundabout which would take out their

29:54 ↗ axle or their tires and that our police

29:57 ↗ could show up on the scene and

29:59 ↗ detain the person for dui

30:02 ↗ do you know if there are any sources

30:04 ↗ that would

30:05 ↗ give us any statistics on what kind of

30:07 ↗ crashes we have just in general not

30:09 ↗ necessarily dui's alone but what kind of

30:12 ↗ crashes we have

30:13 ↗ in roundabouts as opposed to

30:16 ↗ keeping the road straight in other words

30:18 ↗ what's the kind of the apples to oranges

30:20 ↗ comparison if you will is it really a

30:22 ↗ safety improvement to do a roundabout or

30:24 ↗ is it

30:25 ↗ merely you know for

30:27 ↗ traffic flow and traffic um you know

30:30 ↗ congestion mitigation that we're doing

30:32 ↗ this if you if any of you know yeah

30:36 ↗ the research on the modern roundabout

30:39 ↗ says it does two things one it reduces

30:42 ↗ the frequency of

30:44 ↗ accidents at the intersection and the

30:47 ↗ other thing is

30:48 ↗ that the accidents are less severe

30:50 ↗ because they're more likely to be a side

30:52 ↗ swipe or maybe someone tries to enter

30:54 ↗ the roundabout

30:55 ↗ when they should be yielding

30:57 ↗ but

30:59 ↗ i guess less accidents and safer

31:02 ↗ accidents

31:05 ↗ okay and that's because we're going

31:07 ↗ we're slowing down into those

31:09 ↗ roundabouts and we're operating at

31:12 ↗ angles instead of

31:13 ↗ potentially being

31:16 ↗ t-boned as we're making a left turn is

31:18 ↗ that

31:19 ↗ yes that is correct okay

31:21 ↗ appreciate that

31:22 ↗ other questions from

31:24 ↗ committee members

31:26 ↗ okay

31:28 ↗ we'll open it back up for public comment

31:30 ↗ if there

31:31 ↗ is anyone in the room that like to make

31:32 ↗ public comment on this project

31:35 ↗ your opportunity is here go ahead

31:37 ↗ connie marsh

31:39 ↗ step up to the microphone

31:44 ↗ okay connie marsh again and

31:46 ↗ so this is

31:48 ↗ being promoted as a mobility project

31:52 ↗ so i asked the question of what is the

31:55 ↗ speed limit going to be

31:57 ↗ and i was told

31:59 ↗ 30

32:01 ↗ which is why i then asked well what's

32:04 ↗ the speed in the roundabout because it

32:06 ↗ turns out that the statistics seem to

32:08 ↗ say that pedestrians are much safer when

32:11 ↗ the roundabout speed is between 10 and

32:14 ↗ 15. now this is a layman reading the

32:16 ↗ internet right so i'm just giving you

32:18 ↗ sort of a scale of what i saw the slower

32:21 ↗ the cars go

32:22 ↗ the more likely it is that they will see

32:24 ↗ the pedestrians and they will be able to

32:27 ↗ get through because

32:28 ↗ if you imagine

32:29 ↗ you know you're trying to to drive

32:31 ↗ through a roundabout and you're looking

32:33 ↗ left the pedestrians on the right right

32:35 ↗ you turn around and there's the

32:37 ↗ pedestrian in front of you that you

32:39 ↗ never saw because of shading or some

32:42 ↗ such issues so there was a lot of

32:44 ↗ information on that the design of these

32:46 ↗ roundabouts was

32:48 ↗ huge in making them actually pedestrian

32:52 ↗ safe

32:53 ↗ and

32:55 ↗ so

32:56 ↗ i don't

32:58 ↗ having a roundabout right there by the

33:00 ↗ school

33:01 ↗ and imagining the crossing guards and a

33:03 ↗ roundabout it sort of blows my mind i'm

33:06 ↗ not that much of a roundabout fan but

33:09 ↗ i'm here to tell you the things that i

33:12 ↗ think you need to be cautious about and

33:14 ↗ that is the access to these two

33:17 ↗ businesses the one is the karate studio

33:21 ↗ which from that drawing would be placed

33:24 ↗ right as people are accelerating out of

33:26 ↗ a roundabout

33:27 ↗ and this is where we got into trouble on

33:29 ↗ east lake sammamish parkway where you

33:31 ↗ have a bunch of turns with people going

33:34 ↗ into roundabouts distracted and coming

33:36 ↗ out of roundabouts accelerating the hair

33:38 ↗ salon who the daughter is you know the

33:42 ↗ mother

33:43 ↗ of the person who owns it is a friend of

33:44 ↗ mine and

33:46 ↗ her access looks like it's going to be

33:50 ↗ very limited she now uses the right of

33:52 ↗ ways for street parking

33:55 ↗ and so the impacts to her business could

33:58 ↗ be significant i didn't see any of these

34:01 ↗ people in any of the meetings and when i

34:03 ↗ have reached out to them today today

34:06 ↗ they are unaware of the meeting tonight

34:08 ↗ and

34:09 ↗ neither of them was aware of the survey

34:12 ↗ or the other meeting they thought it was

34:15 ↗ all information about this development

34:17 ↗ that was

34:19 ↗ coming out simultaneously so

34:22 ↗ uh the human impacts to these small

34:25 ↗ businesses that we're actually trying to

34:27 ↗ get people to

34:29 ↗ need to be

34:31 ↗ considered you are looking at this sort

34:34 ↗ of silhouette

34:35 ↗ and i am concerned that by approving

34:38 ↗ this

34:39 ↗ diagram

34:41 ↗ that will

34:43 ↗ that will just push this road forward

34:46 ↗ and these people will not get their

34:48 ↗ appropriate attention to try to make

34:50 ↗ their lives as best as possible and

34:54 ↗ i don't understand the process the

34:56 ↗ process is not

34:58 ↗ outlined that i can see

35:01 ↗ i don't understand what the community

35:03 ↗ impact inputs will

35:05 ↗ be

35:06 ↗ and how effective they will be

35:08 ↗ if you all just say hey this looks good

35:11 ↗ and i don't know if you can create an

35:13 ↗ envelope that requires this sort of

35:15 ↗ attention to the community they're

35:17 ↗ putting the road in

35:19 ↗ um so that we actually do get that

35:21 ↗ safety and awareness of the people the

35:24 ↗ people are sort of worn out and it's

35:25 ↗ hard to engage y'all virtually so

35:31 ↗ if it feels like that's missing and

35:32 ↗ these people are my people

35:35 ↗ and they deserve to have great lives not

35:38 ↗ lives that are heavily impacted by

35:41 ↗ road design and we've we've had road

35:43 ↗ design impacts in this town before and

35:45 ↗ it can create ugly scenarios for those

35:47 ↗ people who are going to have their homes

35:50 ↗ taken not in this case but their

35:51 ↗ businesses impacted

35:54 ↗ and

35:55 ↗ so our roundabouts really that safe i

35:57 ↗ think you need to make sure that the

35:58 ↗ design is slower i think that the speed

36:00 ↗ limit should be

36:02 ↗ 25

36:03 ↗ and i think that you need another

36:05 ↗ crossing further down between dogwood

36:07 ↗ and sunset way to help create that

36:09 ↗ pedestrian grid because if you go down

36:11 ↗ by the fire station

36:13 ↗ there's no way to get across unless you

36:15 ↗ go

36:16 ↗ would go up to the roundabout or down to

36:18 ↗ sunset

36:19 ↗ so

36:20 ↗ that is my input for

36:23 ↗ the moment thank you

36:27 ↗ okay thank you um

36:30 ↗ i'll just take notice that uh for the

36:33 ↗ school zone they do have to

36:35 ↗ slow down to 20 miles an hour and um

36:38 ↗ mr mortensen will the

36:41 ↗ 20 mile an hour school zone be

36:44 ↗ before

36:46 ↗ the school as we're going southbound in

36:49 ↗ other words if we're coming from target

36:51 ↗ heading down toward

36:52 ↗ ive that first roundabout is there and

36:56 ↗ if i

36:57 ↗ can envision it the 20 mile an hour

36:59 ↗ speed limit starts before

37:01 ↗ the positioning of the roundabout in the

37:03 ↗ map is that going to

37:05 ↗ stay the same as have you talked to the

37:08 ↗ internally about that the school zone

37:10 ↗ limits won't change that those are

37:12 ↗ driven by state law and where they

37:14 ↗ start and stop

37:17 ↗ and am i correct that

37:20 ↗ as i look at it

37:21 ↗ the school zone for 20 miles an hour

37:23 ↗ starts before

37:25 ↗ the roundabout on hawley

37:28 ↗ my memory is correct you are correct

37:30 ↗ okay

37:31 ↗ um so if the speed limit is down to 20

37:35 ↗ and we think the average

37:37 ↗ speed is somewhere in there that we're

37:39 ↗ not going to see

37:41 ↗ a

37:42 ↗ big difference in the the kind of

37:44 ↗ conditions that we have for

37:46 ↗ crossing in terms of speed limit

37:48 ↗ but we do need to think about how we are

37:51 ↗ making pedestrians visible going across

37:53 ↗ there

37:54 ↗ what have you learned as we've

37:57 ↗ examined the 43rd street

37:59 ↗ and east lake samantha's parkway design

38:02 ↗ for

38:03 ↗ pedestrian safeway and

38:05 ↗ safety excuse me and access

38:09 ↗ a great question one of the things that

38:11 ↗ we've learned is speed that traffic was

38:13 ↗ driving through that roundabout too fast

38:15 ↗ and

38:16 ↗ i i think it might not have been

38:19 ↗ noticeable at first but once all the new

38:22 ↗ homes got built on the other side of the

38:24 ↗ so you'd have the king county trail on

38:26 ↗ the lakeside and then you had the new

38:28 ↗ development started going in what we

38:30 ↗ started noticing

38:31 ↗ internally through the

38:34 ↗ was before we had c-click fix and i i

38:36 ↗ think is reported concerned that we

38:38 ↗ would get a lot of complaints about

38:40 ↗ those crossings

38:41 ↗ that cars weren't stopping they were

38:43 ↗ going too fast

38:45 ↗ and that so what we did was we narrowed

38:49 ↗ the lanes up

38:50 ↗ and added some different

38:52 ↗ replace the curb put in the rectangular

38:54 ↗ rapid flashing beacons

38:57 ↗ and

38:58 ↗ doing that to improve the the crossing

39:01 ↗ i would add that

39:03 ↗ some of the things that we're going to

39:04 ↗ look at are

39:06 ↗ whether it makes sense to do the

39:08 ↗ rectangular rapid flashing beacons

39:10 ↗ i think

39:11 ↗ at a minimum we would go with the

39:13 ↗ rectangular rapid flashing beacons

39:15 ↗ but it might even make sense to do a

39:18 ↗ pedestrian

39:20 ↗ signal where there would actually be a

39:22 ↗ red

39:23 ↗ especially next to the school zone those

39:25 ↗ are things that we'll evaluate does it

39:27 ↗ make sense to do a raised crosswalk

39:29 ↗ instead of having it at level in order

39:32 ↗ to help slow down cars and

39:34 ↗ those are just a few of the things that

39:36 ↗ we're

39:37 ↗ getting ready to look at for that

39:38 ↗ crossing those crossings great thank you

39:40 ↗ very much councilmember d michelle

39:43 ↗ uh i'll just jump in here and say you

39:44 ↗ know we have a double um roundabout down

39:48 ↗ by sunset elementary

39:50 ↗ on the west lake and i know that's not

39:52 ↗ in the city

39:54 ↗ but uh that

39:56 ↗ roundabout has been operating

39:57 ↗ successfully for

39:59 ↗ quite a long time 12 years 13 years

40:01 ↗ something like that

40:02 ↗ so i would think when we start the

40:05 ↗ dialogue with the school district that

40:06 ↗ they would be able to share some of the

40:09 ↗ things they've learned about

40:11 ↗ safety for students down there i think

40:13 ↗ that's mostly a school where kids come

40:15 ↗ in on the buses and don't walk to school

40:18 ↗ i imagine they have a few walkers but

40:20 ↗ not very many

40:22 ↗ so it may not be exactly appropriate to

40:24 ↗ issaquah valley elementary but it at

40:27 ↗ least in terms of the bus traffic going

40:29 ↗ in there

40:30 ↗ that was another one of my concerns was

40:32 ↗ in the morning and in the afternoon

40:34 ↗ we're going to have a lot of school

40:35 ↗ buses going back and forth on that road

40:37 ↗ and going in

40:40 ↗ into issaquah valley elementary but at

40:42 ↗ any rate i would say let's look and see

40:45 ↗ how that double roundabout is working

40:47 ↗ there and what kind of safety measures

40:50 ↗ they put in for students there because

40:53 ↗ i i am not aware of any um

40:57 ↗ student

40:58 ↗ accidents that have occurred there so

41:01 ↗ thanks yeah if i could just comment i

41:03 ↗ had the pleasure of

41:05 ↗ going to the timber lake neighborhood

41:07 ↗ for national night out on

41:09 ↗ and

41:10 ↗ was able to talk to a number of the

41:12 ↗ citizens there and they were

41:14 ↗ currently working on a an easement issue

41:16 ↗ that they were

41:18 ↗ having with a neighbor and they have a

41:21 ↗ fair number of

41:22 ↗ children from that neighborhood that do

41:24 ↗ walk

41:25 ↗ through there and they stay off the main

41:27 ↗ road using this easement and then cross

41:30 ↗ over to sunset so i can't say that it's

41:32 ↗ in the hundreds of students but it

41:34 ↗ certainly is more than um 10 or 15

41:36 ↗ perhaps in the 25 area they do use it so

41:39 ↗ it has been working as you point out and

41:41 ↗ there are students that do walk to

41:43 ↗ sunset so as we

41:45 ↗ just kind of file that away as a fact

41:48 ↗ that we've discovered so it's because

41:50 ↗ we've done our community outreach um to

41:53 ↗ the community to the different

41:54 ↗ neighborhoods

41:55 ↗ mr morrison do you have other comments

41:57 ↗ to

41:58 ↗ anything anything that we've talked

42:00 ↗ about thus far

42:04 ↗ none other than i thought that was a

42:05 ↗ good idea to check in on the

42:08 ↗ other roundabout by the school i hadn't

42:09 ↗ thought of that thank you

42:12 ↗ okay

42:14 ↗ we are still in the public comment

42:15 ↗ period

42:16 ↗ if there's anyone else in the room that

42:19 ↗ would like to make public comment now is

42:20 ↗ your opportunity

42:22 ↗ i'll look to deputy clerk to see if

42:24 ↗ there's anyone online that would like to

42:27 ↗ give a public comment this evening

42:30 ↗ councilmember joe uh we have one

42:32 ↗ attendee but no virtual hand raised at

42:34 ↗ this time okay

42:37 ↗ with that in mind we'll go ahead and

42:39 ↗ close the public comment on this topic

42:42 ↗ and move on to council discussion

42:46 ↗ would either you'd like to start

42:52 ↗ um

42:53 ↗ i'll start by saying thank you to staff

42:55 ↗ i'm this is a long long-term project and

43:00 ↗ i thought the summary of the

43:02 ↗ all the things we've gone through was

43:03 ↗ very well done and i thought the public

43:06 ↗ and community engagement was very well

43:08 ↗ done and i was pleased to see the number

43:09 ↗ of people that

43:11 ↗ were involved i love the question about

43:14 ↗ is it just right or too much or too

43:16 ↗ little

43:18 ↗ when you see how many people think it's

43:20 ↗ just right that sort of

43:23 ↗ tells me that this is a project that can

43:25 ↗ go forward with community support

43:28 ↗ i do support the project the way the

43:30 ↗ concept does it's been presented

43:32 ↗ [Music]

43:34 ↗ i think you heard my comments we have

43:36 ↗ there were people that were worried

43:37 ↗ about

43:39 ↗ the juniper and holly round about being

43:42 ↗ too close to each other and again we've

43:43 ↗ got double roundabouts in many other

43:46 ↗ places in our community and they seem to

43:48 ↗ be working just fine so i don't think

43:50 ↗ that that

43:51 ↗ worries me

43:52 ↗ i think safety is always a concern about

43:54 ↗ roundabouts and so um but i think we can

43:58 ↗ go ahead just being sensitive to that uh

44:00 ↗ concern from the public and especially

44:02 ↗ when it's around in elementary school

44:04 ↗ um

44:06 ↗ let's see um

44:10 ↗ i was my concern about can we include

44:12 ↗ bus stops because i have a feeling as

44:14 ↗ growth occurs down there that we're

44:15 ↗ going to want some bus stops on newport

44:18 ↗ and um other than that i the other

44:20 ↗ common i have is

44:22 ↗ approving the concept is a big step

44:24 ↗ forward and then you start getting into

44:27 ↗ the details of of the plan so

44:30 ↗ i think approving the concept doesn't

44:32 ↗ mean that we stop talking to the public

44:34 ↗ doesn't mean that we stop adjusting the

44:37 ↗ the plan as we learn more because that's

44:40 ↗ uh that's the reason we approve the

44:42 ↗ concept so we can start proving whether

44:44 ↗ or not it's going to work so

44:47 ↗ i think that i am ready to prove the

44:50 ↗ concept and uh then we will learn as we

44:53 ↗ go along what parts of it work and what

44:56 ↗ parts of it we might need to adjust a

44:57 ↗ little bit

44:58 ↗ i do think that reaching out to the

45:00 ↗ businesses that are along there will be

45:03 ↗ a important part but i think it's pretty

45:04 ↗ early actually to be doing that and we

45:07 ↗ can i think we need some more

45:08 ↗ information to share with those

45:10 ↗ businesses before we're ready to have

45:12 ↗ that discussion with them and what

45:14 ↗ mitigations we might be able to offer

45:16 ↗ and so forth so i am ready to approve

45:19 ↗ the concept and i really commend staff

45:21 ↗ for the work that you did especially

45:23 ↗ gathering all the comments from the

45:25 ↗ public which i read through

45:27 ↗ and they're always very very interesting

45:30 ↗ and thank you for capturing those so

45:32 ↗ i think those are my comments

45:35 ↗ thank you councilmember d michelle

45:37 ↗ deputy council president hall

45:39 ↗ sure thank you um big thank you to the

45:42 ↗ two you and everyone else who

45:43 ↗ contributed to this effort

45:45 ↗ it was a fantastic memo and lots of

45:47 ↗ great supporting materials that were

45:49 ↗ good to read

45:50 ↗ and i agree with the level of community

45:53 ↗ engagement that's been done so far i'm

45:54 ↗ very satisfied with that and that there

45:56 ↗ you know there's no reason to continue

45:59 ↗ um doing forms of community engagement

46:01 ↗ where that makes sense in the process

46:02 ↗ still um so some thoughts on kind of

46:05 ↗ what i was looking for going into this

46:06 ↗ and then some thoughts on next steps

46:08 ↗ based on our conversation and on public

46:10 ↗ comment um today um you know going into

46:12 ↗ this what i was looking for was that you

46:14 ↗ know we have a merged design concept

46:17 ↗ that brings this resolution between the

46:19 ↗ 2011 concept and the central is called

46:22 ↗ concept so i'm glad to see that you know

46:24 ↗ we have a proposal there so that meets

46:25 ↗ that box

46:27 ↗ aligned with our plans and our standards

46:29 ↗ so definitely the mobility i mean you

46:31 ↗ had several pages in the memo that

46:33 ↗ showed how this was aligned with

46:35 ↗ different goals of the mobility master

46:37 ↗ plan and the climate action plan i

46:38 ↗ really appreciated that when i started

46:40 ↗ reading the memo i got out my copy of

46:42 ↗ the mobility master plan so i could do

46:44 ↗ that but then i got to that page and

46:45 ↗ it's like why'd i do all that work but

46:46 ↗ anyways thank you for doing that so

46:48 ↗ clearly it's aligned with those plans um

46:51 ↗ i was also looking that it would be

46:53 ↗ responsive to community needs and

46:54 ↗ feedback and in a number of ways the

46:56 ↗ concept has changed in response to

46:58 ↗ community needs so i appreciate seeing

47:00 ↗ that

47:00 ↗ especially with the media and so on and

47:02 ↗ so forth

47:03 ↗ and also that the design you know

47:05 ↗ supports our multimodal vision for

47:07 ↗ newport way northwest while also

47:09 ↗ balancing

47:11 ↗ roadway improvements for drivers and

47:14 ↗ supporting safety improvements which

47:17 ↗ is a four month forefront

47:19 ↗ in all of this work

47:21 ↗ so i am too uh in favor of the current

47:25 ↗ design concept that's here before us um

47:27 ↗ some thoughts that have come up today

47:30 ↗ is that it would be good to get some

47:32 ↗ feedback from the school district on on

47:34 ↗ where the crossings

47:36 ↗ would end going that seems like it's

47:37 ↗ kind of down the line a little bit there

47:39 ↗ um also maybe i i also agree that we

47:42 ↗ should have some feedback or

47:44 ↗ communications with businesses

47:47 ↗ um

47:48 ↗ near where the roundabouts are going to

47:49 ↗ be in the very least but also all along

47:51 ↗ newport and i think maybe the earlier

47:53 ↗ the better especially if we haven't

47:54 ↗ really

47:56 ↗ finished the design or the concept of

47:58 ↗ the roundabouts in general it might be

48:00 ↗ good to get their feedback to help

48:02 ↗ inform that design

48:04 ↗ and will help us avoid mistakes that we

48:06 ↗ learned on southeast 43rd um

48:09 ↗ designing another you know important

48:12 ↗ thing to be mindful of is that you know

48:13 ↗ we have to design our roundabouts with

48:15 ↗ intention to encourage pedestrian pros

48:18 ↗ pedestrian crossings which you mentioned

48:19 ↗ john so i know that's in the forefront

48:21 ↗ of your two brains um and then also with

48:24 ↗ intention of these turn-offs and um as

48:27 ↗ you enter exit around about that it's

48:29 ↗ not you know discouraging people from

48:31 ↗ actually being able to merge in

48:34 ↗ to the road because the roundabout is

48:37 ↗ too close i thought that was a good

48:38 ↗ point from a public commenter thank you

48:39 ↗ for bringing that up

48:40 ↗ um i don't think it's necessarily the

48:42 ↗ role for council to approve a design of

48:46 ↗ the roundabout i think the only reason

48:48 ↗ this is really here is because

48:51 ↗ there was the conflict between the two

48:54 ↗ concepts so

48:56 ↗ you know i i trust staff to take the

48:58 ↗ feedback here tonight and

49:00 ↗ you know

49:01 ↗ work on those designs

49:03 ↗ but not necessarily imagining it coming

49:05 ↗ back to council again i'm assuming i'm

49:07 ↗ seeing some nods from staff

49:11 ↗ yeah so with that those are my comments

49:14 ↗ i agree with approving the concept as

49:19 ↗ shown here tonight and thanks again for

49:20 ↗ all your work

49:22 ↗ thank you for those comments

49:24 ↗ i will also

49:27 ↗ thank the two of you for

49:28 ↗ a fine presentation tonight

49:30 ↗ and please pass on our thanks to the two

49:33 ↗ or three people

49:34 ↗ that helped you

49:35 ↗ put it together

49:37 ↗ an army concept is it takes about 10

49:40 ↗ people

49:41 ↗ behind a person that's on the line

49:43 ↗ with a gun or whatever equipment it

49:46 ↗ might be watching

49:48 ↗ the the dmz or whatever it might be

49:50 ↗ and with city employees i'm sure there

49:52 ↗ are two or three people on your

49:55 ↗ in your department that helped you

49:56 ↗ prepare this as well so please pass on

49:58 ↗ our thanks to those individuals

50:02 ↗ they don't get enough thanks and city

50:04 ↗ workers in general don't get enough

50:05 ↗ thanks so we want to make sure that

50:08 ↗ that is heard loud and clear from this

50:09 ↗ committee

50:12 ↗ i appreciate the the presentation

50:14 ↗ tonight i'm

50:15 ↗ um

50:17 ↗ excited that there will be more

50:19 ↗ opportunities to cross newport way

50:22 ↗ i live just above the

50:24 ↗ salmon hatchery and would love to walk

50:26 ↗ down to the city and go to

50:30 ↗ you know the confluence park

50:32 ↗ if i could and you know there's just not

50:35 ↗ a great place to cross if you

50:37 ↗ are too far

50:39 ↗ into newport way and i have seen people

50:42 ↗ with their dogs in the morning or people

50:44 ↗ with their kids

50:46 ↗ going to ive that cross in places they

50:48 ↗ probably shouldn't be crossing just

50:50 ↗ because

50:50 ↗ the length between the crosswalks is too

50:53 ↗ long so if we can get three more

50:55 ↗ crossings in there that are

50:57 ↗ thought out carefully and have good

51:00 ↗ design

51:01 ↗ um you know i think that's going to help

51:03 ↗ us

51:04 ↗ you know if we can take people out of

51:06 ↗ their cars so they're walking their kids

51:08 ↗ to school you get the reduced

51:09 ↗ community greenhouse gas emissions uh

51:12 ↗ impact that that you're talking about

51:14 ↗ and we're getting better connections in

51:16 ↗ issaquah we're able to

51:19 ↗ cross newport and get into the old

51:20 ↗ downtown and other areas that we want to

51:23 ↗ get to

51:25 ↗ i appreciate the the fact that you're

51:27 ↗ going to be as as

51:29 ↗ councilmember dean michelle points out

51:31 ↗ continuing to

51:32 ↗ improve on the concept and learn as you

51:35 ↗ go to

51:37 ↗ keep an open mind about improvements

51:39 ↗ that can be made that will increase

51:41 ↗ safety and as you have your

51:43 ↗ conversations with the school district

51:45 ↗ and other community members

51:47 ↗ i think that's going to help make this

51:49 ↗ project

51:50 ↗ even better

51:53 ↗ i would encourage the administration to

51:56 ↗ think about

51:57 ↗ ways that

51:59 ↗ might be appropriate to showcase

52:01 ↗ this project in the sense if there is a

52:05 ↗ community

52:06 ↗ activity going on

52:09 ↗ and it might be appropriate to put up a

52:12 ↗ board just so the community knows that

52:13 ↗ this project is coming

52:16 ↗ people from other areas of the city when

52:17 ↗ they come to the party the festival the

52:21 ↗ concerts on the green whatever it might

52:22 ↗ be we'll also have an opportunity just

52:24 ↗ take a look at it and you know if

52:26 ↗ there's contact information on there

52:27 ↗ they can reach out to the see if they

52:29 ↗ have questions but i think the more

52:31 ↗ people

52:32 ↗ uh see

52:33 ↗ the the design and and have an

52:35 ↗ opportunity to think about it it's going

52:38 ↗ to make it an even better project so

52:40 ↗ those are my

52:41 ↗ comments i also in favor of moving

52:44 ↗ forward with this concept back to

52:46 ↗ council

52:47 ↗ at this time

52:50 ↗ any

52:51 ↗ questions

52:52 ↗ additional information that the

52:54 ↗ administration or staff needs from this

52:56 ↗ committee

52:58 ↗ okay yep yeah go ahead so on the other

53:01 ↗ committee i serve on councilmember ray

53:03 ↗ is always asking are we putting this on

53:05 ↗ the regular agenda are we putting this

53:07 ↗ on the consent agenda

53:09 ↗ yeah i i do believe this should be on

53:11 ↗ the

53:12 ↗ regular agenda as it will be an a topic

53:14 ↗ of interest to the entire council i

53:17 ↗ think and they'll probably be some

53:18 ↗ questions and having the opportunity to

53:21 ↗ hear from professional staff on on the

53:23 ↗ presentation i think would be beneficial

53:27 ↗ okay and we don't need any official vote

53:29 ↗ coming out of this committee okay

53:34 ↗ they don't oh look it's just a

53:36 ↗ recommendation consensus of a

53:38 ↗ recommendation by consensus is adequate

53:41 ↗ okay to put it on the calendar

53:43 ↗ very good thank you

53:46 ↗ okay

53:49 ↗ thank you both for that presentation and

53:52 ↗ uh we'll move on to announce oh actually

53:55 ↗ last thing before we go um exhibit a

53:58 ↗ will be accepted in part of the official

54:01 ↗ record unless there's objection from the

54:03 ↗ body

54:04 ↗ okay please add that to the record okay

54:07 ↗ good all right now we're on to

54:08 ↗ announcements

54:11 ↗ any announcements

54:16 ↗ okay

54:18 ↗ very good we'll then go to adjournment

54:21 ↗ unless there's objection we will adjourn

54:23 ↗ at 7 24 pm

54:25 ↗ we're out of here thank you

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