City Council Mobility & Infrastructure Committee · Tuesday, July 12, 2022 · City Council Digest

3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Approval of minutes of May 10, 2022

packet pp.6

Previously discussed: City Council Regular Meeting · Jun 27, 2022

▶ Watch from 8:08 Open packet at p.6 ↗

Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 05-10-22 City Council Mobility & Infrastructure Page 2 Committee Minutes • Committee was satisfied with the proposed plan. • General agreement with the buckets that staff had indicated in the plan. • City needs to have a larger discussion on more multi-modal investment. • Committee expressed its thanks to the Transportation Advisory Board and Environmental Board for their work on the plan. • Suggested having a community listening session around the Mobility Master Plan.

Approval of minutes of June 14, 2022

packet pp.8

Previously discussed: City Council Regular Meeting · Jun 27, 2022

▶ Watch from 27:05 Open packet at p.8 ↗

Staff report:

Issaquah’s infrastructure needs greatly surpass the City’s current ability to pay for those needs. The lack of funding has provided significant challenges for the City to maintain existing and fund new infrastructure that meets the Issaquah community’s needs and standards for transportation, parks and trails, and city facilities.

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0:05 ↗ good evening it's 6 31. we're going to

0:10 ↗ start our committee meeting tonight

0:12 ↗ for the mobility and infrastructure

0:14 ↗ committee here on July 12th

0:18 ↗ 2022.

0:21 ↗ hi council member Joe call this mean to

0:23 ↗ order

0:25 ↗ this meeting will be conducted in person

0:27 ↗ in virtually in compliance with the

0:28 ↗ governor's Proclamation related covert

0:30 ↗ 19. it's modified a little bit but there

0:33 ↗ are two public comment periods available

0:35 ↗ tonight

0:36 ↗ there's a general public comment

0:38 ↗ opportunity at the beginning of the

0:39 ↗ meeting or members of the public may

0:41 ↗ make comments after the presentation of

0:44 ↗ each individual agenda item

0:46 ↗ the chair will also share a summary of

0:49 ↗ any comments that have been emailed

0:50 ↗ regarding tonight's agenda

0:53 ↗ first item on the agenda is public

0:54 ↗ comment

0:55 ↗ members of the public May address the

0:57 ↗ committee at this time in person or

1:00 ↗ virtually

1:01 ↗ those who are signed up in advance to

1:02 ↗ make comments will be called on first

1:05 ↗ if you're joining us virtually and would

1:07 ↗ like to make comments please raise your

1:08 ↗ virtual hand

1:09 ↗ if you're on the phone press star three

1:12 ↗ if you are joining my computer or

1:14 ↗ smartphone look for the hand icon this

1:16 ↗ varies by device one option may be to go

1:18 ↗ to the participants panel and choose the

1:21 ↗ raise hand icon in the lower right hand

1:24 ↗ corner

1:25 ↗ I'll wait a moment to see if anyone has

1:27 ↗ selected to raise their hand but first

1:29 ↗ clerk has anyone signed up to speak or

1:32 ↗ indicated a desire to speak this evening

1:34 ↗ yes councilmember Joe we have two

1:37 ↗ members of the public in attendance

1:38 ↗ tonight who have signed up to speak

1:42 ↗ Okay who wants to go first

1:45 ↗ come on up please please identify

1:48 ↗ yourself and tell us your tie to the

1:51 ↗ city connection to the city and then

1:53 ↗ we'd love to hear your comments

2:00 ↗ there you go hi I'm the culuminary bay

2:04 ↗ Highlands been here almost five years

2:06 ↗ now and I am a moorish-american

2:10 ↗ descendant from the AL Moroccan Morocco

2:13 ↗ and pleasure is all mine to be here and

2:16 ↗ share in with the planning of the

2:19 ↗ community

2:20 ↗ I've taken notice of all the changes

2:22 ↗ that are being made they are wonderful

2:24 ↗ and my specialty is Park and Recreation

2:27 ↗ so I was really excited the last meeting

2:30 ↗ when you talked about the green necklace

2:33 ↗ and Lake Talbot Park Talbot they are

2:37 ↗ very important to the community

2:39 ↗ being a foster parent licensed in two

2:42 ↗ different states children are my

2:44 ↗ specialty so thank you for having me

2:47 ↗ thank you for joining us

2:49 ↗ your turn man

2:55 ↗ um I'm Safari elbe also I'm moish

2:59 ↗ American descendant of Morocco born in

3:02 ↗ America I have been living here in

3:05 ↗ Issaquah for three years now I'm also

3:08 ↗ standing in behalf of the office of

3:10 ↗ wazir Simone Bell a bale and I am here

3:14 ↗ to just hear things of what's going on

3:16 ↗ in the community and also kind of get

3:19 ↗ some input as well so we can get the

3:21 ↗ city together and come together and work

3:23 ↗ together so we can all live harmoniously

3:26 ↗ so thank you

3:29 ↗ thank you very much

3:32 ↗ uh if the deputy

3:35 ↗ will indulge me for a moment we did

3:37 ↗ receive an email concerning the blue

3:40 ↗ door recently and there was a gate that

3:42 ↗ was put up around that door around the

3:44 ↗ Fourth of July and I think it was a

3:46 ↗ temporary door but could you just give

3:48 ↗ us a brief update on what happened with

3:50 ↗ that it's very important that we honor

3:52 ↗ our sister city chesh Allen and I was

3:55 ↗ part of that process as we put that

3:57 ↗ together many years ago so just if you

3:59 ↗ can give a little update

4:02 ↗ sure thank you council member Joe we do

4:04 ↗ have a a door that was a gift from our

4:07 ↗ sister city Chef Sharon in Morocco that

4:10 ↗ door sits outside of City Hall and

4:12 ↗ during the Fourth of July celebrations

4:15 ↗ there was a fence put up around the door

4:18 ↗ an attempt to try to protect the door

4:20 ↗ from a lot of the just any incidental

4:24 ↗ harm that could have occurred during

4:26 ↗ those Fourth of July festivities

4:28 ↗ that fence was put up by a third party

4:31 ↗ organization who ran the festival not by

4:34 ↗ the city and so we contacted when

4:36 ↗ hearing that there was a fence blocking

4:38 ↗ access to the door we contacted the

4:41 ↗ festival producer they were able to take

4:43 ↗ the fence down and so the door remains

4:47 ↗ accessible to all

4:50 ↗ thank you very much for that update I

4:52 ↗ appreciate it

4:54 ↗ all right uh Deputy clerk are there any

4:57 ↗ members of the public online that would

4:59 ↗ oh actually is there anyone else here

5:00 ↗ tonight in uh here in the room that

5:04 ↗ would like to give a public comment

5:06 ↗ if not we'll move on to online Deputy

5:09 ↗ Clerk

5:11 ↗ Joe uh Connie Marsh is online and would

5:14 ↗ like to address the committee Ms Marsh

5:16 ↗ I've made you a panelist you can now

5:18 ↗ unmute and turn on your video

5:22 ↗ hi I'm Connie Marsh and obviously I'm

5:24 ↗ from on squawk Mountain so this initial

5:28 ↗ comment is actually about the format of

5:31 ↗ the new committee meetings

5:34 ↗ um in the past

5:37 ↗ we we

5:39 ↗ those that be decided that it was easier

5:42 ↗ to have a conversation

5:44 ↗ when you were not up on the diocese and

5:48 ↗ you were down at the tables and it was

5:50 ↗ easier to actually speak amongst

5:53 ↗ yourselves

5:55 ↗ in that format I've noticed that in your

5:59 ↗ the new method we are up on the dice

6:02 ↗ again and I've watched a few of these

6:04 ↗ meetings and um that conversational

6:07 ↗ component that was in those prior

6:10 ↗ meetings

6:11 ↗ has still

6:12 ↗ uh not

6:14 ↗ recovered right for some reason

6:19 ↗ in this format each council member

6:23 ↗ speaks and the next council member

6:26 ↗ speaks but there isn't dialogue amongst

6:30 ↗ council members where you're responding

6:33 ↗ to each other's thoughts or comments or

6:36 ↗ maybe boosting ideas amongst yourselves

6:39 ↗ and I think that's what I missed so much

6:41 ↗ about the old format of these meetings

6:43 ↗ is that they were actually a way for

6:46 ↗ council members to communicate and then

6:49 ↗ if community members spoke you were able

6:52 ↗ to discuss amongst yourselves

6:54 ↗ how what you thought about those

6:58 ↗ comments and I I think that that form of

7:02 ↗ dialogue makes for better government

7:04 ↗ rather than each person just presenting

7:07 ↗ their individual ideas sort of out into

7:11 ↗ the pool so I just wanted you to take

7:14 ↗ that on board I am hinting that a less

7:17 ↗ formal way of seating might help solve

7:19 ↗ this problem but there's probably 20 000

7:21 ↗ other ways to solve that uh problem or

7:24 ↗ make it better thank you

7:28 ↗ thank you Connie Marsh appreciate it

7:31 ↗ are there any other members of the

7:32 ↗ public online that would like to speak

7:36 ↗ no council member Joe there are not all

7:39 ↗ right

7:39 ↗ so seeing none we will move to the next

7:43 ↗ item on the agenda but please note

7:44 ↗ public comments may be made after the

7:47 ↗ presentation of tonight's agenda item

7:48 ↗ and we do value

7:53 ↗ feedback from the public and take it

7:55 ↗ under advisement in decisions that we

7:58 ↗ make

7:59 ↗ all right we'll move on to the agenda

8:00 ↗ now

8:04 ↗ tonight we have first a review and

8:08 ↗ approval of the minutes from May 10th

8:11 ↗ and June 14th

8:13 ↗ any comments changes additions

8:18 ↗ okay

8:20 ↗ do I have a motion then to approve the

8:22 ↗ minutes in item number three

8:31 ↗ I'll do that

8:33 ↗ do I have a second

8:34 ↗ yeah I'll second that motion fantastic

8:38 ↗ any discussion

8:41 ↗ all right all those in favor please say

8:43 ↗ aye

8:45 ↗ aye

8:46 ↗ opposed

8:47 ↗ let the record show that passes 3-0 for

8:50 ↗ approval of the minutes of May 10th and

8:52 ↗ June 14th

8:54 ↗ that takes us to item number four ID one

8:57 ↗ two one one Community Mobility

8:58 ↗ investment fund public engagement and

9:01 ↗ Gene Paul management analyst is joining

9:04 ↗ us tonight to go over the staff report

9:07 ↗ and presentation

9:08 ↗ um would oh

9:11 ↗ that microphone has been turned off I

9:13 ↗ appreciate it we're all set

9:17 ↗ thank you chair Joe and good evening

9:18 ↗ council members Gene Paul the management

9:20 ↗ analyst in the executive office and if

9:22 ↗ you bear with me momentile where I get

9:23 ↗ the presentation up

9:42 ↗ okay my presentation this evening is on

9:44 ↗ the public engagement for the community

9:45 ↗ Mobility investment fund

9:49 ↗ the purpose of tonight's presentation is

9:51 ↗ provide the administration's proposal

9:53 ↗ for the public engagement and receive

9:55 ↗ this committee's feedback on three

9:56 ↗ primary components of The Proposal

10:01 ↗ here are the three areas where the

10:02 ↗ administration is seeking your Direction

10:03 ↗ first does the committee agree with the

10:06 ↗ approach of using digital public

10:07 ↗ engagement for a survey

10:10 ↗ second should the administration

10:11 ↗ consider Trails projects as suitable for

10:13 ↗ inclusion in the survey

10:15 ↗ and finally what are the desired next

10:18 ↗ steps once the engagement process is

10:20 ↗ complete

10:26 ↗ as brief background the mayor and city

10:29 ↗ council have identified that the

10:30 ↗ infrastructure needs for the city are

10:32 ↗ greater than the city's current ability

10:33 ↗ to pay for them

10:34 ↗ to help determine the community's

10:36 ↗ priorities for the next 10 years the

10:38 ↗ mayor convened the Capital Finance

10:40 ↗ Community task force

10:41 ↗ that task force met from September of

10:43 ↗ 2021 to March of this year and provided

10:46 ↗ their recommendations for infrastructure

10:48 ↗ priorities and timing to the

10:49 ↗ administration

10:51 ↗ to implement some of these

10:52 ↗ recommendations the administration

10:54 ↗ proposed the community investment

10:56 ↗ strategy which was recently discussed at

10:58 ↗ both the June 27th and July 5th Council

11:00 ↗ meetings

11:02 ↗ one component of the overall investment

11:04 ↗ strategy is the community Mobility

11:06 ↗ investment fund

11:08 ↗ the council supported the concept of

11:09 ↗ allocating two million dollars of

11:11 ↗ American Recovery plan act or arpa

11:13 ↗ funding and using a public engagement

11:15 ↗ process to determine which small capital

11:17 ↗ projects would receive that funding

11:20 ↗ initially the administration proposed

11:22 ↗ the short list of projects would include

11:24 ↗ transportation and Parks projects

11:26 ↗ however based on the council's desire to

11:28 ↗ focus more funding towards

11:30 ↗ Transportation projects the

11:31 ↗ administration adjusted the plan the

11:34 ↗ project list will only include projects

11:35 ↗ that focus on multimodal or

11:37 ↗ Transportation safety improvements

11:42 ↗ so the first area where the

11:43 ↗ administration is seeking feedback

11:44 ↗ tonight is the approach to public

11:45 ↗ engagement

11:46 ↗ the city's public engagement toolkit

11:48 ↗ describes three levels of Engagement

11:50 ↗ that ultimately depend on the level of

11:52 ↗ feedback needed

11:54 ↗ from left to right on the slide these

11:55 ↗ levels are defined as collaborate

11:57 ↗ consult and inform

11:59 ↗ the consult level is described as

12:01 ↗ consult with community members by

12:03 ↗ educating them on a limited number of

12:05 ↗ options and asking for feedback

12:07 ↗ this fits the administration's vision of

12:09 ↗ preparing a short list of capital

12:10 ↗ projects and asking for the community to

12:12 ↗ prioritize them

12:14 ↗ as you can also see highlighted at the

12:16 ↗ bottom the document even uses the

12:18 ↗ example of prioritized Capital

12:19 ↗ Improvement plan projects to illustrate

12:22 ↗ when this level of Engagement is

12:23 ↗ appropriate

12:28 ↗ in order to best accomplish this

12:29 ↗ consultation the administration intends

12:31 ↗ to use two tools information materials

12:33 ↗ and an online survey

12:35 ↗ the administration envisions having

12:37 ↗ online informational materials such as a

12:39 ↗ video summarizing the projects or

12:42 ↗ website content with pictures and

12:43 ↗ designs from the CIP

12:45 ↗ this will allow community members to

12:47 ↗ learn about the options and following

12:48 ↗ this informational content there will be

12:50 ↗ a survey that will enable those members

12:52 ↗ to rank the projects to indicate which

12:54 ↗ should be funded from the two million

12:55 ↗ dollars

12:57 ↗ the administration is also proposing to

12:58 ↗ conduct this project process entirely

13:00 ↗ digitally

13:02 ↗ the city's communication team noted that

13:04 ↗ the community investment strategy has

13:06 ↗ been one of the more popular items on

13:08 ↗ the city's digital platforms so we'd

13:10 ↗ like to continue engaging people where

13:11 ↗ they already are

13:16 ↗ the second area where the

13:17 ↗ administration's seeking feedback is a

13:19 ↗ clarification on the criteria for the

13:21 ↗ list of capital projects

13:23 ↗ as a reminder the criteria for compiling

13:25 ↗ the initial list of projects includes

13:28 ↗ eligibility for arpa and an ability to

13:30 ↗ be completed within the arpa timeline

13:33 ↗ projects that focus on transportation

13:35 ↗ and projects that have been already

13:36 ↗ vetted and approved in the CIP

13:41 ↗ after that initial screening process the

13:43 ↗ administration intends to use the list

13:45 ↗ of criteria from the task force

13:47 ↗ prioritization exercise to help narrow

13:49 ↗ down the list

13:50 ↗ these criteria include projects that

13:53 ↗ address pain points across the city

13:55 ↗ have high impact relative to their cost

13:58 ↗ address areas where the community

14:00 ↗ expressed the least satisfaction but

14:02 ↗ highest importance in last year's

14:04 ↗ Community survey and finally projects

14:06 ↗ that improve life and safety

14:10 ↗ while the feedback from the council was

14:12 ↗ clear on most points the administration

14:14 ↗ is looking for the committee's direction

14:15 ↗ to clarify one aspect of the criteria

14:18 ↗ there are potential Trails projects that

14:20 ↗ could provide connections to the city's

14:22 ↗ parks and nearby neighborhoods that are

14:24 ↗ currently classified as Parks projects

14:26 ↗ and therefore would not be part of the

14:27 ↗ survey

14:28 ↗ we are requesting your direction tonight

14:30 ↗ on whether the administration should

14:32 ↗ consider these a suitable Mobility

14:33 ↗ projects for the survey

14:39 ↗ the third and final area where we're

14:40 ↗ asking for your feedback this evening is

14:42 ↗ that the desired next steps once the

14:44 ↗ engagement process is complete

14:46 ↗ specifically the administration is

14:48 ↗ looking for input on how to treat the

14:50 ↗ results of the survey and where to bring

14:52 ↗ them back to the council

14:54 ↗ although it's possible to describe the

14:56 ↗ results of the survey as a pledge or a

14:58 ↗ guarantee of funding the administration

14:59 ↗ is proposing that the results be

15:01 ↗ considered as a recommendation for the

15:03 ↗ council

15:04 ↗ and while the results of the process

15:06 ↗ could return to this committee we're

15:08 ↗ also proposing to take them to a council

15:09 ↗ Committee of the whole meeting as part

15:11 ↗ of the biennial budget deliberations in

15:13 ↗ October

15:16 ↗ in terms of timing and next steps the

15:18 ↗ administration will incorporate your

15:20 ↗ feedback tonight and use July and August

15:22 ↗ to compile the list of capital projects

15:24 ↗ and prepare the public engagement

15:26 ↗ we plan to conduct the public engagement

15:28 ↗ in September and provide at least three

15:30 ↗ weeks for the community to participate

15:33 ↗ we'd like to bring the results of this

15:34 ↗ process to the committee of the whole

15:35 ↗ budget deliberations in October and

15:38 ↗ finally the funding for projects could

15:39 ↗ be included in the overall Council

15:41 ↗ action on the biennial budget in

15:43 ↗ November

15:46 ↗ this is the final slide for the

15:47 ↗ presentation it reads the three areas

15:49 ↗ where we're seeking your direction this

15:51 ↗ evening

15:51 ↗ and that concludes my presentation I'm

15:53 ↗ happy to answer any questions

15:55 ↗ Mr Paul thank you much appreciated uh

15:59 ↗ let me just start out with uh a couple

16:02 ↗ of questions just to get us on the same

16:05 ↗ page for those that are watching and

16:07 ↗ those that will see the recording later

16:09 ↗ when we're talking about a a survey or

16:12 ↗ kind of an engagement strategy we're not

16:16 ↗ seeking a survey that is statistically

16:19 ↗ significant or has will make the plus or

16:23 ↗ minus three percent type things that you

16:25 ↗ see on TV for a presidential poll we're

16:27 ↗ really talking about an informal

16:29 ↗ Community survey that's trying to find

16:31 ↗ out what they would like to do with with

16:33 ↗ these projects is that correct that's

16:35 ↗ correct it'd be just convenient sample

16:37 ↗ of those willing to participate okay

16:39 ↗ thank you and then for the digital

16:41 ↗ public engagement I'll just ask one

16:44 ↗ question to kind of kick it off and then

16:45 ↗ I'll hand it off to the other members of

16:46 ↗ the committee

16:48 ↗ is it a type of Engagement that people

16:50 ↗ can come in and vote numerous times and

16:54 ↗ do we have a way to year or discern

16:57 ↗ whether the person is a member or

16:59 ↗ resident of the city or a person who is

17:01 ↗ outside the city

17:05 ↗ so I think responding to the first

17:06 ↗ component of your question

17:08 ↗ the survey platform the city uses people

17:11 ↗ are able to vote multiple times but we

17:13 ↗ can identify those multiple uses and

17:15 ↗ Screen them out so there's no you know

17:18 ↗ screen if you return that says you've

17:20 ↗ already filled up the survey but we're

17:22 ↗ able to identify multiple responses from

17:24 ↗ the same place so we could screen those

17:25 ↗ out I think the second component is

17:28 ↗ whether somebody would be a resident of

17:29 ↗ the city or not I think we could ask a

17:32 ↗ demographic question if somebody would

17:33 ↗ be willing to volunteer that information

17:35 ↗ but again nothing preventing

17:36 ↗ participation if if somebody wanted to

17:39 ↗ complete that process online

17:41 ↗ okay great thank you that gives us some

17:43 ↗ context any other initial questions

17:46 ↗ before we talk about

17:49 ↗ um what's next steps we want to take

17:50 ↗ here tonight

17:52 ↗ okay thank you I appreciate that we'll

17:54 ↗ go ahead and talk then about the

17:57 ↗ direction needed in the comments that uh

18:00 ↗ are on the screen right there

18:03 ↗ um

18:05 ↗ Deputy Administrator do you have some

18:07 ↗ additional comments

18:09 ↗ councilmember Joe you do need to take

18:11 ↗ public comment so did you want to do

18:13 ↗ that now

18:15 ↗ let me ask do you have any other

18:18 ↗ questions before we start that public

18:19 ↗ comment period about this particular

18:22 ↗ part okay

18:23 ↗ all right thank you Dev clerk appreciate

18:25 ↗ it

18:26 ↗ um we will now take public comments on

18:29 ↗ this item and we'll start with members

18:32 ↗ that might be present in person tonight

18:35 ↗ if they'd like to make public comment go

18:37 ↗ ahead and step forward to the diocese

18:39 ↗ and turn on the microphone

18:43 ↗ thank you this is izaka the questions

18:46 ↗ that I have pertaining to this project I

18:48 ↗ noticed that you said the parks are

18:50 ↗ removed from this project did you say Mr

18:53 ↗ Paul

18:54 ↗ they are uh will they be put back on or

18:57 ↗ is there consideration for upgrading the

19:00 ↗ parks

19:02 ↗ specifically more the apparatus

19:06 ↗ go ahead Deputy Ministry thank you I

19:09 ↗ know that we don't typically respond to

19:11 ↗ public comment questions directly but it

19:13 ↗ seems like

19:13 ↗ format we can we can do it so that

19:16 ↗ everybody has the right information

19:18 ↗ what what Gene Paul is referring to is

19:21 ↗ the one survey part of the community

19:25 ↗ investment strategy so it's I think

19:27 ↗ you're familiar with that from the last

19:29 ↗ council meeting that you watched that's

19:30 ↗ great thank you so they're still as part

19:35 ↗ of the community investment strategy is

19:37 ↗ that big anchor investment in The Parks

19:39 ↗ of four million dollars there's still so

19:42 ↗ that's pers that's proceeding this is

19:45 ↗ just one one small piece of that work

19:48 ↗ that's really focused on Mobility

19:50 ↗ related improvements so there's still

19:52 ↗ plans for

19:54 ↗ more Parks Investments also looking at

19:57 ↗ the park strategic plan next year and

19:59 ↗ the potential for a Parks District that

20:02 ↗ would increase investments in Parks

20:04 ↗ further so there's still some parks

20:06 ↗ related projects that are planned as we

20:08 ↗ presented last time this is just one

20:10 ↗ component that is focusing on mobility

20:13 ↗ in terms of our infrastructure okay

20:15 ↗ wonderful

20:16 ↗ um I'll hold all questions really thank

20:18 ↗ you

20:22 ↗ and other members of the public present

20:24 ↗ tonight that would like to comment on

20:25 ↗ this

20:26 ↗ all right we'll turn it to the digital

20:28 ↗ world then Deputy Clerk

20:32 ↗ council member Joe I see Connie Marsh's

20:34 ↗ uh and raised I don't know if it's from

20:37 ↗ before or if she wants to comment on

20:40 ↗ this item uh Ms Marsh did you want to

20:42 ↗ comment on this item

20:46 ↗ um wait wait wait

20:48 ↗ I do want to comment on this item

20:50 ↗ again sorry the screen went away for a

20:53 ↗ moment there uh so

20:57 ↗ Connie you have five minutes

20:59 ↗ yeah this presentation does not tell you

21:03 ↗ what the projects might be for parks

21:06 ↗ that would be included as uh

21:10 ↗ transportation

21:12 ↗ so it is very difficult to know what I

21:15 ↗ would support or not support with that

21:17 ↗ out that information so Council if you

21:20 ↗ could ask that question like what are we

21:23 ↗ talking about

21:24 ↗ um I

21:26 ↗ have always disagreed with the idea that

21:30 ↗ recreational trails are not also

21:33 ↗ potentially transportation and need to

21:36 ↗ be included in the mobility uh master

21:40 ↗ plan which did not happen so I think you

21:44 ↗ also if you would request that those

21:46 ↗ overlays be included so that people can

21:49 ↗ have on street and off-street ways of

21:52 ↗ walking which would create more

21:54 ↗ efficiency and then when you talk about

21:56 ↗ the surveys

21:58 ↗ having a list of service of particular

22:02 ↗ items

22:03 ↗ might be okay but you also have to say

22:06 ↗ that you don't like any of them and then

22:10 ↗ provide an other comment for people to

22:13 ↗ put in their own ideas because they may

22:16 ↗ have better ideas than anyone and if you

22:18 ↗ allow them to to uh to give you those

22:21 ↗ that would be a bonus also there is a

22:25 ↗ group of people who you are entirely

22:28 ↗ missing if you go totally digitally

22:31 ↗ so um I would say that there should be a

22:35 ↗ component in a place like a library or a

22:38 ↗ city hall where you could drive people

22:40 ↗ who don't

22:42 ↗ necessarily use technology where they

22:44 ↗ would be able to answer a survey in

22:48 ↗ person because you're basically cutting

22:50 ↗ off many people over the age of 70 and

22:53 ↗ or 60 and they maybe use be heavy

22:58 ↗ multimodal Transportation users

23:01 ↗ so I I think you are you're missing a

23:05 ↗ vital component there

23:08 ↗ um and I think I will stop at that thank

23:11 ↗ you

23:13 ↗ thank you Ms Marsh appreciate that

23:16 ↗ um

23:18 ↗ so thinking about the

23:21 ↗ um survey itself I guess I'd like to

23:24 ↗ hear from the administration in terms of

23:26 ↗ um art will this solely be a digital

23:28 ↗ Outreach or are there other forums that

23:31 ↗ that we will be using for instance

23:34 ↗ I see that we have a number of herd on

23:36 ↗ the street uh kiosks if you will that

23:38 ↗ have some newsletters and information

23:40 ↗ for the public out there will that be

23:42 ↗ one of the uh methods that we would use

23:45 ↗ to reach out to the public and or are

23:47 ↗ there others

23:50 ↗ so I I think at the end we're trying to

23:53 ↗ drive people towards an online survey so

23:55 ↗ we may disseminate you know hey there's

23:57 ↗ an online survey through other means you

23:59 ↗ know whether it's word on the street or

24:01 ↗ the city's newsletter bulletins you know

24:03 ↗ the the common communication tools but

24:05 ↗ we're probably at the end of the day

24:08 ↗ requesting that they go online and

24:10 ↗ complete that survey

24:13 ↗ okay thank you

24:17 ↗ um I guess I need to conclude the public

24:18 ↗ comment so are there other members of

24:21 ↗ the public that might be online that

24:22 ↗ would like to speak tonight

24:25 ↗ councilmember Joe I don't see any other

24:27 ↗ virtual hands raised up uh David Kepler

24:30 ↗ has just raised his hand and would like

24:33 ↗ to address the committee Mr Kepler I've

24:35 ↗ made you a panelist you can now unmute

24:37 ↗ and turn on your video

24:43 ↗ yeah I was I guess partly my question is

24:46 ↗ are we just talking about the the first

24:48 ↗ um the first um

24:49 ↗ uh one here are we talking about all of

24:52 ↗ the uh the directions needed

24:56 ↗ um items

25:02 ↗ um the person you know the my pitch is

25:05 ↗ that

25:06 ↗ you know where we can meet needs to

25:10 ↗ um have transportation and access Parks

25:13 ↗ that's great if we

25:16 ↗ one problem with if we don't access our

25:18 ↗ parks with Trails people access them

25:21 ↗ with their cars and then we have the

25:23 ↗ parking issue so you know that's one of

25:26 ↗ the the benefits of having trails that

25:28 ↗ people don't have to park a car to get

25:31 ↗ to a place and that can apply of course

25:33 ↗ to uh shopping and other Recreation or

25:36 ↗ you know those kinds of things but

25:38 ↗ especially for Parks uh Confluence Park

25:41 ↗ a huge park that's very popular but has

25:43 ↗ very limited parking as an example on

25:45 ↗ Rainier and a little squeaky one of

25:48 ↗ um on the back in the in the southwest

25:51 ↗ corner so um let's um think about

25:57 ↗ um reducing amount of impervious surface

25:59 ↗ for parking by having people getting to

26:03 ↗ be able to get to parks and other places

26:05 ↗ by walking or bicycling

26:08 ↗ thank you

26:10 ↗ thank you Mr kapler much appreciated

26:13 ↗ any other comments from members of the

26:16 ↗ digital public

26:20 ↗ councilmember Joe there are no other

26:22 ↗ members of the public wishing to speak

26:24 ↗ at this time

26:25 ↗ all right thank you very much

26:28 ↗ um so that'll take us to the discussion

26:30 ↗ portion and I can tell from my colleague

26:34 ↗ Barb D Michelle that she has a great

26:36 ↗ deal written down to share with us but

26:38 ↗ let's start with Mr Hall Zach Hall our

26:42 ↗ Deputy council president uh well thanks

26:44 ↗ very much um before I launch into my

26:46 ↗ comments and I'll just ask a question

26:47 ↗ and then it comes from to Michelle if

26:49 ↗ you have comments feel free to go before

26:51 ↗ me

26:52 ↗ um so I thought Connie's question was

26:53 ↗ was a good one it was going to be kind

26:55 ↗ of interwoven in my comments on what are

26:57 ↗ the what are the what are the lists of

26:58 ↗ projects that we're going to be putting

26:59 ↗ in the survey for the community to rank

27:01 ↗ and to vote on is it all

27:04 ↗ um

27:05 ↗ basically all Mobility projects that are

27:07 ↗ in the CIP that aren't currently

27:09 ↗ um fully funded

27:11 ↗ that have a Mobility aspect to them or a

27:14 ↗ trail aspect to them or what other uh in

27:16 ↗ the end that fit those criteria so this

27:18 ↗ kind of like this

27:20 ↗ funnel but is that correct

27:25 ↗ essentially the we laid out the criteria

27:27 ↗ that we're going to try and create a

27:29 ↗ short list uh yes they will be Mobility

27:31 ↗ projects in the CIP that are currently

27:34 ↗ not completely funded I think we're our

27:37 ↗ hope is to winnow down that list so it's

27:39 ↗ not just hey here's 30 projects picked

27:41 ↗ from them but something more realistic

27:43 ↗ whether that's you know five to ten

27:45 ↗ something smaller and again we're going

27:47 ↗ to try and use the prioritization

27:48 ↗ criteria from the task force to kind of

27:51 ↗ create that shorter list so it's a

27:53 ↗ little less of just a wave of

27:55 ↗ information for people to try and make

27:57 ↗ their way through before they prioritize

27:59 ↗ the the projects themselves okay and I

28:01 ↗ think I just um got to my point where

28:03 ↗ you were speaking to that was helpful

28:05 ↗ um but so are we putting all of the

28:07 ↗ trails projects that fit these criteria

28:09 ↗ in the survey or just Trails projects

28:12 ↗ that we would consider to be projects

28:15 ↗ that would feed into our Mobility

28:16 ↗ Network so for for example if there's a

28:18 ↗ trail project that's in the center of a

28:19 ↗ park or something like that would that

28:22 ↗ be considered

28:23 ↗ um you know feeding into our Mobility

28:25 ↗ work in the same way as this policy

28:27 ↗ question of saying well these Trails

28:29 ↗ connect to walking paths that are part

28:32 ↗ of the mobility Network and that's why

28:33 ↗ we're considering the question of of

28:35 ↗ parks Trail projects in addition

28:38 ↗ to this does that make sense or am I

28:39 ↗ just rambling at this point I I think I

28:43 ↗ understand I essentially I don't think

28:45 ↗ we're proposing to put all the trails

28:47 ↗ projects on the list there are at least

28:49 ↗ a couple that we are considering that

28:51 ↗ would provide this component where it's

28:53 ↗ connecting to a neighborhood where

28:55 ↗ there's a little bit of a Mobility

28:57 ↗ component rather than just to Simply

28:58 ↗ hear all the trails that aren't funded

29:05 ↗ okay

29:09 ↗ go ahead and please continue all right

29:11 ↗ well very good then I'll run through my

29:13 ↗ comments uh first and foremost thanks to

29:14 ↗ the public commenters uh folks who are

29:16 ↗ here in person also who are online who

29:18 ↗ wanted to chime in on this

29:20 ↗ um interesting uh topic I do think that

29:23 ↗ um approaching the community Through

29:24 ↗ digital public engagement and asking

29:27 ↗ them to complete a survey is probably

29:28 ↗ the most efficient and best way to

29:29 ↗ collect

29:30 ↗ um many results in the short amount of

29:33 ↗ time that we have to do this so I

29:36 ↗ appreciate that recommendation

29:38 ↗ I do

29:40 ↗ um

29:41 ↗ agree with the sentiment though that

29:43 ↗ there are probably some ways that are

29:45 ↗ not digital that we can direct people to

29:47 ↗ online platforms where we have that

29:50 ↗ website where we have those videos from

29:51 ↗ that survey and I might ask the

29:53 ↗ administration to brainstorm what might

29:55 ↗ be practical

29:57 ↗ um for doing that in the short amount of

29:58 ↗ time that we have in a way that

29:59 ↗ residents will actually see more because

30:01 ↗ you know putting it on Facebook

30:04 ↗ putting it in our e-newsletter which

30:06 ↗ which already goes out to many many

30:08 ↗ people and we have many followers is the

30:10 ↗ most efficient way to get it out to a

30:11 ↗ lot of people right away if there is

30:13 ↗ something that's similarly efficient

30:15 ↗ maybe Flyers at concerts on the green or

30:18 ↗ something like that if there are a

30:20 ↗ number of them between now and when the

30:22 ↗ survey closes that might be of benefit

30:24 ↗ but I'll leave it up to the

30:26 ↗ administration to kind of think about

30:27 ↗ what might be efficient in that sense

30:29 ↗ should the administration consider Park

30:31 ↗ Trail projects yes

30:35 ↗ asterisks but absolutely I I completely

30:38 ↗ agree that trails

30:40 ↗ are healthy Trail networks support

30:43 ↗ Community mobility and especially if

30:46 ↗ we're thinking long term

30:48 ↗ and how are we you know making

30:51 ↗ investments in our community for people

30:52 ↗ to get around that aren't just cars and

30:54 ↗ Pavements investing in our Trails is a

30:57 ↗ great way to kind of future proof

31:00 ↗ Mobility into the future so I completely

31:02 ↗ agree with that and I thought David I

31:04 ↗ thought your point was a really good one

31:05 ↗ too especially when we're thinking about

31:07 ↗ the future of how we travel to our Parks

31:09 ↗ without cars and pavement to uh

31:11 ↗ Investments and trails contributes to

31:14 ↗ that effort as well so so yes I agree

31:16 ↗ with the second bullet as long as those

31:18 ↗ you know projects actually have

31:20 ↗ connections to our Mobility Network and

31:22 ↗ contribute to mobility

31:24 ↗ and then finally yes I agree that we

31:28 ↗ should consider these as recommendations

31:30 ↗ and that they should go to a council of

31:33 ↗ the whole meeting I had originally

31:35 ↗ thought it might be of benefit to come

31:37 ↗ back to this committee or even to the

31:39 ↗ transportation Advisory board but I've

31:40 ↗ been convinced that the timing will be

31:42 ↗ difficult with budget development and we

31:45 ↗ want to make sure that the full Council

31:47 ↗ has an opportunity to see this before

31:49 ↗ days before passing the final budget and

31:52 ↗ also based on you know our role which is

31:55 ↗ really to provide in-depth policy

31:57 ↗ guidance on mobility and infrastructure

31:58 ↗ I don't think it's necessarily a need

32:01 ↗ for us to consider these projects as

32:02 ↗ they come back that's really more of a

32:04 ↗ budget decision for the council to make

32:05 ↗ so those are our my remarks

32:10 ↗ the chair recognizes accounts member

32:12 ↗ Barb D Michelle

32:19 ↗ so on I am number one this is the one

32:21 ↗ that I've got a lot I'd like us to

32:24 ↗ consider and I didn't ask questions

32:27 ↗ because I think this these are questions

32:29 ↗ that the three of us up here need to

32:32 ↗ answer and not the staff but so I I

32:36 ↗ agree that the digital platform is the

32:39 ↗ way to go and I also think that as we

32:42 ↗ are getting further and further into

32:44 ↗ digital engagement with our community

32:46 ↗ we're beginning to understand that

32:48 ↗ public meetings are sometimes a barrier

32:51 ↗ to a lot of people they can't make it

32:53 ↗ it's at the wrong time it's at the wrong

32:55 ↗ place they can't get Transportation

32:57 ↗ whatever

32:58 ↗ but people can participate digitally

33:00 ↗ whenever they are able and ready to do

33:03 ↗ so so I agree but I do have some

33:06 ↗ concerns that I think we need to think

33:07 ↗ really thoughtfully about before we open

33:10 ↗ this up and the first one is I when I

33:12 ↗ think about the map of Issaquah and I

33:15 ↗ think about the neighborhoods we have

33:16 ↗ we've got Highlands with about 10 000

33:18 ↗ people we've got a smaller neighborhood

33:21 ↗ like Sycamore we've got the South Cove

33:24 ↗ and

33:26 ↗ how are we going to help people think

33:30 ↗ about Transportation projects that are

33:32 ↗ in other neighborhoods besides their own

33:33 ↗ neighborhood

33:35 ↗ and I think Connie Marsh was right on in

33:38 ↗ her commentary how do we although she

33:41 ↗ was talking to us but I think the same

33:43 ↗ thing applies how do we encourage a

33:45 ↗ dialogue around these projects

33:48 ↗ and how do we keep it from being just a

33:51 ↗ popularity vote so if there's a project

33:53 ↗ that really benefits the highlands for

33:55 ↗ example with 10 000 people

33:57 ↗ of course they're going to get the most

33:59 ↗ votes I would guess you know so how do

34:02 ↗ the folks in Sycamore or South Cove get

34:04 ↗ their project equally considered

34:07 ↗ so

34:09 ↗ um

34:10 ↗ you know the school district has used a

34:12 ↗ method for a long time on that involves

34:15 ↗ people placing their ideas you know and

34:18 ↗ letting other people read their ideas

34:19 ↗ and so forth that's one thing that I'm

34:22 ↗ thinking of I think we've also invested

34:24 ↗ in the Miro I hope I'm pronouncing that

34:26 ↗ right

34:27 ↗ platform where you put little sticky

34:29 ↗ notes and stuff and maybe we could ask

34:31 ↗ people a simple question like why are

34:33 ↗ you voting for you know fill in the

34:35 ↗ blank or I'm voting for fill in the

34:37 ↗ blank because fill in the blank you know

34:39 ↗ so just a way for people exchange the

34:44 ↗ importance of the project to their

34:45 ↗ neighborhood and

34:48 ↗ um and why it's important to them uh

34:50 ↗ because I think the component we're

34:51 ↗ missing when we get all digital is that

34:53 ↗ interaction between people and I think

34:57 ↗ people need to have that interaction in

35:00 ↗ order to understand why other why

35:01 ↗ projects that may be important to one

35:04 ↗ neighborhood or benefit one neighborhood

35:07 ↗ over another neighborhood need to be

35:09 ↗ considered so I think we need to really

35:12 ↗ be thinking thoughtfully about that

35:13 ↗ before we go to just a survey where

35:16 ↗ people click

35:18 ↗ and the number of votes is the way it

35:21 ↗ comes out

35:22 ↗ um uh we need some way of getting

35:25 ↗ getting people to be talking to each

35:26 ↗ other or thinking about each other or

35:28 ↗ thinking about the breadth of the city

35:29 ↗ and all the different needs that we have

35:31 ↗ in our city with all these different

35:32 ↗ neighborhoods so that's that's my

35:35 ↗ concern there

35:36 ↗ um on the other I am not saying let's go

35:38 ↗ to a public meeting because I I agree we

35:41 ↗ get a lot more engagement digitally and

35:44 ↗ in many ways I think we get better

35:46 ↗ engagement

35:48 ↗ but this is asking people to consider

35:51 ↗ several different projects and sort of

35:53 ↗ rank them

35:55 ↗ um and so how are we going to do that so

35:57 ↗ that every neighborhood gets a fair shot

35:59 ↗ that's my question so it may be ranking

36:03 ↗ instead of just voting is one way to do

36:06 ↗ this you know so uh like we have ranked

36:09 ↗ voting this would be ranked

36:11 ↗ prioritization so

36:14 ↗ um I don't know I'll stop and see if

36:16 ↗ there's any comments from either of my

36:17 ↗ council members before

36:20 ↗ no I think that we need to be thoughtful

36:22 ↗ about how we drive people to the digital

36:25 ↗ survey as was pointed out and um that as

36:28 ↗ you were talking I kind of made a list

36:31 ↗ and and uh the Kiwanis group certainly

36:34 ↗ would be a good group to get a fly or

36:37 ↗ two to hand out to say you know fill out

36:40 ↗ this digital survey even though you

36:41 ↗ don't necessarily live in the city use

36:43 ↗ our city roads to get to the meetings

36:45 ↗ and you're active in our community the

36:47 ↗ same with the the Rotary Club here which

36:50 ↗ meets every Tuesday June 21st the mayor

36:53 ↗ is giving a state of this city

36:55 ↗ presentation to the Chamber of Commerce

36:57 ↗ at noon that would be another place to

36:59 ↗ highlight it and perhaps hand out a

37:01 ↗ flyer driving people to the digital

37:04 ↗ survey Highlands has their events on

37:07 ↗ Fridays throughout the summer concerts

37:10 ↗ on the green I think was pointed out in

37:11 ↗ engaging visit Issaquah and Dia to at

37:15 ↗ least talk to their boards and give them

37:17 ↗ information so they can pass that on to

37:19 ↗ the important people that they know and

37:21 ↗ of course we as council members also

37:23 ↗ must make sure that we're engaged in the

37:25 ↗ community whenever we see them and talk

37:28 ↗ with them and let them know the survey

37:30 ↗ is going on as well so that's just kind

37:32 ↗ of a short list I kind of put together

37:33 ↗ kind of on the fly but if we can get the

37:37 ↗ word out to those organizations and

37:39 ↗ hopefully we can get some robust

37:42 ↗ participation there hope that addresses

37:44 ↗ some of the comments that you made there

37:45 ↗ okay

37:48 ↗ fascinating I mean very important this

37:51 ↗ is this is the value of not having just

37:52 ↗ one person make decisions right because

37:54 ↗ I didn't even think of that right you

37:55 ↗ know and now we get to have this

37:57 ↗ detailed conversation

37:59 ↗ um so I guess my first thought is you

38:02 ↗ you bring up a really good point about

38:03 ↗ how do we ensure that this isn't a

38:05 ↗ popularity contest essentially by this

38:08 ↗ community gets the most people to fill

38:10 ↗ out the form and now the boat is named

38:12 ↗ Bodhi mcboatface right or what was the

38:14 ↗ example for the Seattle Department of

38:16 ↗ Transportation yes um

38:18 ↗ um but at the same time so I liked your

38:21 ↗ suggestion about well maybe there maybe

38:23 ↗ it could be ranked or maybe there could

38:25 ↗ be another question that says like well

38:27 ↗ why did you vote for this or I voted for

38:29 ↗ this one because and then they could

38:30 ↗ kind of talk about their rationale so I

38:32 ↗ was wondering if staff could comment on

38:34 ↗ our ability to do one of those two

38:35 ↗ things and if there is a benefit to

38:37 ↗ doing

38:38 ↗ just a pure vote over a rank in terms of

38:42 ↗ you know

38:43 ↗ the community's engagement with that

38:45 ↗ actual interface and like how long they

38:48 ↗ um you know actually interact with like

38:51 ↗ a survey and is that kind of thought

38:53 ↗ into this at all

38:56 ↗ so I I believe that the tools the

38:58 ↗ communications team has allows us to do

39:00 ↗ a ranked vote so if that's a desire we

39:03 ↗ can certainly uh incorporate that

39:06 ↗ what was the the second party of your

39:08 ↗ question yeah there was so ranking so

39:10 ↗ okay now we know that it's functional we

39:11 ↗ could do that if we wanted to and but

39:13 ↗ then also just to add a second kind of

39:16 ↗ rationale question essentially so like I

39:19 ↗ If we did just do a vote or if we do

39:21 ↗ ranking and we just say you know why did

39:23 ↗ I rank this one number one or something

39:25 ↗ like that so so we get some more

39:27 ↗ information about uh everyone that voted

39:29 ↗ for this project said they voted for

39:31 ↗ this project because uh it was down the

39:34 ↗ street and there are Street Captain said

39:36 ↗ to fill out this survey or something

39:37 ↗ like that and then so I guess that's

39:39 ↗ also a functionality question would we

39:41 ↗ be able to do something like that that

39:42 ↗ seems like it would be more simple than

39:44 ↗ ranking right yes and it could be a fill

39:47 ↗ in the blank or you know pre-populated

39:49 ↗ list of you know top five reasons for

39:52 ↗ you to pick why you chose that one I

39:53 ↗ don't know if you have a preference we

39:55 ↗ could certainly leave it as a fill in

39:56 ↗ the blank if it's kind of a opportunity

39:59 ↗ for for more dialogue or more ideas

40:02 ↗ and then my other thought on this is for

40:04 ↗ the committee then is if we're able to

40:06 ↗ do that and collect the information this

40:09 ↗ will eventually sense or at least my my

40:11 ↗ feedback was that we consider it as

40:13 ↗ recommendations and not necessarily a

40:15 ↗ guarantee of funding

40:17 ↗ um will be a public policy decision for

40:19 ↗ Council to make right so now we'll have

40:21 ↗ the information to say

40:24 ↗ um this was a popular project for this

40:26 ↗ reason but we actually think that this

40:29 ↗ project is a really important one for

40:31 ↗ this public policy reason right so we'll

40:33 ↗ be able to have that kind of high level

40:34 ↗ discussion once that data's in so is

40:36 ↗ that kind of what you were thinking okay

40:38 ↗ yeah that's that's great good

40:39 ↗ conversation I see Deputy Administrator

40:42 ↗ Snyder wants to make some comments

40:47 ↗ add to that you know we're still very

40:49 ↗ much in the creation phase of the survey

40:52 ↗ right so I think Point well made and

40:55 ↗ point well taken that we want to make

40:57 ↗ sure that this survey uh uh results that

41:01 ↗ we consider the why and the motivations

41:04 ↗ and that we want to make sure that the

41:06 ↗ neighborhoods all have an equal shot

41:08 ↗ when it comes to the transportation

41:10 ↗ project so

41:11 ↗ um that thank you for that feedback and

41:14 ↗ consideration and we'll certainly use

41:15 ↗ that I think even as you've had that

41:17 ↗ discussion today there's a couple of

41:19 ↗ ways that we could try to approach uh

41:22 ↗ that that question and so I think we'll

41:25 ↗ take all of this information into

41:28 ↗ account as we dial in what are the

41:30 ↗ questions of the survey what's the

41:32 ↗ structure of the survey Etc so I think

41:34 ↗ there's a couple of options that we can

41:35 ↗ look at and we'll certainly be taking

41:37 ↗ all of this to heart so thank you very

41:39 ↗ much

41:41 ↗ great thank you very much councilmember

41:43 ↗ D Michelle do you want to comment on the

41:45 ↗ second and third one yes

41:49 ↗ I definitely agree that we

41:51 ↗ at Trails projects I think that is uh

41:55 ↗ uh certainly walking paths are part of

41:58 ↗ our Mobility

42:00 ↗ um

42:00 ↗ overall Mobility strategy and I agree

42:04 ↗ with councilmember Mahal that of course

42:07 ↗ they would need to be related to our you

42:09 ↗ know our strategic plans and the

42:10 ↗ transportation area

42:13 ↗ um I think I I we're not asked to

42:15 ↗ comment on this but I actually do like

42:17 ↗ the idea of just giving the public the

42:20 ↗ just the projects that meet the criteria

42:25 ↗ I think if it's outside the criteria

42:27 ↗ it's not really going to be considered

42:28 ↗ and we kind of set up a false narrative

42:31 ↗ there that you can choose a different

42:32 ↗ one so let's just be honest with them

42:35 ↗ and say these five you know these five

42:37 ↗ or six meet the criteria can be done by

42:40 ↗ the end of 2024

42:43 ↗ and yes this project is really great but

42:47 ↗ you don't get to choose that one you

42:48 ↗ know so

42:50 ↗ um

42:50 ↗ uh I do agree I mean all of our boards

42:53 ↗ and commissions give us recommendations

42:55 ↗ so I think recommendations is exactly uh

42:59 ↗ what we're expecting

43:00 ↗ um I think the council gets elected to

43:02 ↗ make the final the tough final decisions

43:05 ↗ so they are recommendations and I think

43:07 ↗ we make that really again really clear

43:09 ↗ to the public that that's what they're

43:11 ↗ engaged in that's the process they're

43:13 ↗ engaged in and then I also agree go back

43:16 ↗ to the committee of the whole after uh

43:19 ↗ after the survey is complete yeah so

43:22 ↗ those are my comments great thank you

43:25 ↗ um so I think on the first question

43:27 ↗ we've

43:28 ↗ given enough detail and guidance to the

43:31 ↗ staff on what we would like to see and

43:34 ↗ some of the ideas that we'd like

43:35 ↗ considered and I agree with that the

43:38 ↗ comments have been made there also I

43:40 ↗ think the the trail should be considered

43:42 ↗ uh with this project and and I have a

43:45 ↗ little bit of a different take on on why

43:47 ↗ they should be there oftentimes when

43:49 ↗ we're seeking grant funding if you have

43:51 ↗ that interconnection that multimodal

43:55 ↗ option in the the Grant application it

43:59 ↗ puts your points up a little bit higher

44:00 ↗ it makes you a little bit more eligible

44:02 ↗ for funding and makes the project a

44:04 ↗ little bit better so I know the

44:06 ↗ administration is consistently thinking

44:07 ↗ about how we go out and get help from

44:10 ↗ other government entities and and

44:12 ↗ putting the trails in there will help

44:14 ↗ make those projects uh even better in

44:18 ↗ the process and then I do agree that it

44:21 ↗ should be a recommendation back to the

44:22 ↗ council not a guarantee of funding and

44:24 ↗ it should go back to the council the

44:26 ↗ council the whole is a right uh

44:28 ↗ Committee of the whole excuse me is the

44:30 ↗ the right place to um

44:32 ↗ come back to or a full city council

44:34 ↗ meeting depending on your scheduling and

44:36 ↗ how much can get done in the timing of

44:38 ↗ that I don't see a real distinction

44:40 ↗ between coming back to a cow or coming

44:42 ↗ back to the city council but I'll do

44:44 ↗ that to the administration and

44:46 ↗ Leadership to to work through that

44:48 ↗ scheduling

44:50 ↗ other comments uh questions anything

44:52 ↗ else Deputy president Hall uh just real

44:55 ↗ quick too then for the minute since this

44:57 ↗ will then be circulated back to the full

44:59 ↗ Council

45:00 ↗ in the mobility master plan appendices

45:03 ↗ or appendix on page 110 under climate

45:07 ↗ and quality of life policy number 2.6 is

45:10 ↗ to support the Implement implementation

45:12 ↗ of the park strategic plan including the

45:14 ↗ development of the green necklace which

45:16 ↗ was stated by one of our community

45:17 ↗ commenters today fully connected

45:19 ↗ Regional Trail system and secondary

45:21 ↗ Trail connections so I would definitely

45:24 ↗ say that including these kinds of Trail

45:26 ↗ projects in this

45:30 ↗ uh investment fund is in line and

45:33 ↗ aligned with the vision of the mobility

45:36 ↗ master plan thanks

45:38 ↗ okay I think that uh gives the

45:41 ↗ administration guidance I'll look over

45:43 ↗ make sure that I have nods any questions

45:46 ↗ from the Administration staff on

45:48 ↗ Direction where

45:50 ↗ suggesting tonight

45:52 ↗ no I think feedback guide took copious

45:54 ↗ notes and appreciate all of your

45:56 ↗ direction great thank you very much

45:58 ↗ appreciate it next on the agenda then

46:01 ↗ says announcements and number five so

46:05 ↗ I'll look and see if there are announces

46:06 ↗ from members of the committee I'm just

46:08 ↗ reading what's on the screen guys

46:13 ↗ all right no announcements

46:16 ↗ go ahead uh just real quick then to

46:19 ↗ announce um to the public again if you

46:21 ↗ haven't already seen that the city

46:22 ↗ council will be having our annual summer

46:24 ↗ Retreat to focus on our budget

46:27 ↗ development priorities for the upcoming

46:28 ↗ biennium and that'll be this Saturday

46:30 ↗ from 9 A.M to 2 p.m at

46:33 ↗ Tibbetts Manor I believe so if you have

46:36 ↗ any interest in providing any public

46:39 ↗ comment during that

46:41 ↗ special meeting of the city council you

46:43 ↗ can do so in person or virtually right

46:46 ↗ okay thanks and as a chamber liaison

46:51 ↗ from the council I would just announce

46:54 ↗ that uh mayor Paulie is scheduled to

46:56 ↗ speak July 21st to the chamber to give a

46:59 ↗ state of the city uh summary or address

47:01 ↗ basically and that meeting is at noon

47:04 ↗ you can check the chamber website for

47:06 ↗ additional details on that lunch and

47:09 ↗ event

47:10 ↗ all right any other business of Deputy

47:13 ↗ Administrator

47:15 ↗ thank you councilmember Joe I believe uh

47:18 ↗ you have a couple of other items you

47:20 ↗ wanted to discuss tonight with this

47:22 ↗ committee first is the joint meeting

47:26 ↗ with the transportation Advisory Board I

47:29 ↗ don't know if you wanted to comment

47:30 ↗ further on that if you want me to keep

47:31 ↗ going

47:33 ↗ yeah go ahead and fill in the committee

47:36 ↗ we're trying to stay in touch with the

47:39 ↗ boards and commissions that we have an

47:42 ↗ involvement with and so we have one

47:44 ↗ which is fantastic so hopefully we're

47:46 ↗ able to arrange a meeting of some sort

47:48 ↗ but if you could give us an update

47:49 ↗ that'd be much appreciated

47:51 ↗ great

47:54 ↗ [Music]

47:58 ↗ uh you're talking about meeting back in

48:00 ↗ person

48:02 ↗ um

48:02 ↗ the we're welcoming our boards and

48:04 ↗ commissions back in person some of them

48:06 ↗ this month including tab the

48:08 ↗ transportation Advisory Board and so I

48:11 ↗ know Deputy council president you were

48:13 ↗ looking for at one point you're looking

48:15 ↗ for people to sign up to go to those

48:18 ↗ committees and welcome back our

48:20 ↗ transportation Advisory board members in

48:22 ↗ person we do have one of those meetings

48:25 ↗ coming up this month I'm sure I'm

48:27 ↗ struggling to find it right now but

48:29 ↗ maybe while I'm talking the the WD clerk

48:32 ↗ can help do my research for me

48:34 ↗ um so that would be something that we

48:36 ↗ could invite a council member from this

48:38 ↗ committee if if you would like to go and

48:41 ↗ attend and welcome them back and kind of

48:44 ↗ talk to them before the meeting or after

48:45 ↗ I wanted to test uh just see if there

48:50 ↗ was interest in that and another

48:52 ↗ opportunity that I know we were

48:55 ↗ interested in facilitating is

48:58 ↗ perhaps having a joint meeting with the

49:00 ↗ transportation Advisory Board in in

49:03 ↗ September so with with them taking the

49:07 ↗ month of August off it seems like that

49:09 ↗ would be the next opportunity to really

49:12 ↗ discuss

49:14 ↗ how this committee and the

49:16 ↗ transportation Advisory Board could work

49:18 ↗ together what would some of those items

49:21 ↗ be and and any other agenda items that

49:23 ↗ Council would like to discuss so I think

49:26 ↗ those were the two two items uh council

49:29 ↗ member Joe that you had wanted to make

49:31 ↗ sure we'd bring up tonight

49:33 ↗ thank you very much

49:35 ↗ so as as was pointed out when we were

49:37 ↗ discussing the Outreach for the the

49:40 ↗ funding one of the items was we meet

49:42 ↗ them where they are we meet the citizens

49:44 ↗ where they are and so I think it's

49:46 ↗ important if we do have a joint meeting

49:48 ↗ that we go to their night their regular

49:51 ↗ night of uh of of their meetings so

49:54 ↗ they're not taking an additional night

49:55 ↗ out of their schedule and meet them

49:58 ↗ during their Camp their regular meeting

50:00 ↗ and and sit down and talk with them but

50:03 ↗ I'd certainly like to hear any

50:04 ↗ additional thoughts on on either one of

50:07 ↗ the topics meeting in September and then

50:09 ↗ meeting with them and then

50:11 ↗ Deputy president Hall you did put out

50:15 ↗ that list that had all the Committees

50:17 ↗ and then you we took it back because we

50:20 ↗ had rolled back our our role out of

50:22 ↗ in-person meetings is that list going to

50:25 ↗ come out again and can we pre-fill it

50:27 ↗ with one of us maybe in the tab meeting

50:30 ↗ uh great suggestion yes that actually

50:33 ↗ will be coming out in the next few days

50:34 ↗ to council members we do have a

50:36 ↗ refreshed list and to confirm the next

50:39 ↗ Transportation Advisory Board is board

50:41 ↗ meeting is next Thursday July 21st at 6

50:45 ↗ PM unfortunately I'm not able to attend

50:47 ↗ I do think it would be a great idea for

50:49 ↗ one of the three of us to attend that so

50:54 ↗ if you happen to be available that would

50:56 ↗ be great otherwise we'll make the

50:57 ↗ opportunity available to the full

50:58 ↗ Council as for a joint meaning with the

51:01 ↗ transportation Advisory Board I think

51:03 ↗ that's an excellent idea I think as

51:06 ↗ public policy makers it might be

51:08 ↗ fruitful to have a discussion about

51:10 ↗ their work plan for the next year and is

51:13 ↗ that in alignment with kind of the goals

51:17 ↗ and desired objectives that Council has

51:20 ↗ for Mobility into the next year

51:23 ↗ looking at the 21st

51:25 ↗ um

51:26 ↗ the East King County legislative

51:28 ↗ Coalition is having their wrap up that

51:31 ↗ evening from 3 30 to 5 30. many of you

51:34 ↗ might have seen that announcement I've

51:36 ↗ already committed to attend that but

51:39 ↗ councilmember D Michelle do you have

51:41 ↗ that evening free or

51:45 ↗ yeah I do have that evening free and I'd

51:47 ↗ be glad to go

51:48 ↗ so that's the tap fantastic so let's

51:51 ↗ pre-fill council member Barb demichel's

51:54 ↗ name into the list for going to the

51:58 ↗ first in-person committee meeting for

52:00 ↗ the tab

52:01 ↗ and then

52:03 ↗ is everyone basically in agreement that

52:06 ↗ in September we should try to meet with

52:08 ↗ them as a joint meeting and their

52:10 ↗ regular meeting night if if at all

52:13 ↗ possible

52:14 ↗ okay

52:16 ↗ and um

52:20 ↗ I'm just trying to think about if we're

52:21 ↗ going to do that so we won't have

52:23 ↗ another meeting until our next committee

52:25 ↗ meeting in September right because I

52:27 ↗ imagine we're not meeting in August or

52:29 ↗ this committee this committee does meet

52:31 ↗ in August oh okay well then I wonder if

52:34 ↗ maybe we could have a discussion

52:36 ↗ um with Council

52:39 ↗ um at the next go to the order or

52:40 ↗ something like that to talk about we

52:43 ↗ we're thinking about having this joint

52:44 ↗ meeting what would be a productive

52:46 ↗ conversation to have with this board

52:48 ↗ um and we were thinking potentially

52:50 ↗ reviewing their work plan to make sure

52:52 ↗ it's in line with where we would like to

52:54 ↗ go with Mobility we've had a lot of

52:56 ↗ discussion now both at this committee

52:57 ↗ and at the council level about better

52:59 ↗ aligning the CIP process with the

53:02 ↗ mobility master plan and with multimodal

53:04 ↗ multimodality so maybe that could be

53:08 ↗ kind of a big thing but I also don't

53:10 ↗ want to presume

53:12 ↗ um Council intent just by this committee

53:14 ↗ meeting with tab so I'm not sure what

53:17 ↗ the other committee members think in

53:18 ↗ terms of how we want to next steps and

53:21 ↗ to ensure we have a productive

53:22 ↗ conversation with tab

53:26 ↗ um one suggestion I might have is uh

53:29 ↗ maybe uh the leadership and

53:33 ↗ administration just throw that question

53:35 ↗ out for uh discussion you know not a

53:39 ↗ lengthy discussion but if they have some

53:40 ↗ thoughts

53:42 ↗ um my thought personally is that we

53:45 ↗ don't necessarily want to burden it with

53:48 ↗ too much technical stuff and project

53:51 ↗ stuff but more

53:53 ↗ um you know let's have a conversation

53:54 ↗ about what is the best way that that we

53:58 ↗ can get information to you that is

54:00 ↗ helpful to what you're trying to achieve

54:02 ↗ and what other support from the council

54:05 ↗ do you need really trying to meet them

54:08 ↗ where they are to help them do their job

54:11 ↗ more efficiently to do their job better

54:12 ↗ and to feel more fulfilled when they do

54:14 ↗ their job because they are volunteering

54:17 ↗ their time to the city you know and we

54:19 ↗ want to make sure that we appreciate

54:21 ↗ that acknowledge that and support it in

54:24 ↗ any way shape or form so my general take

54:27 ↗ is to kind of steer away from a project

54:29 ↗ kind of list or a CIP or you know a big

54:33 ↗ project like that but work more on the

54:35 ↗ relationship so to speak on how we can

54:37 ↗ function a little bit better and support

54:39 ↗ one another but I'll defer to other

54:41 ↗ committee members that have comments as

54:43 ↗ well

54:46 ↗ I agree I think relationships are the

54:48 ↗ thing that we should be emphasizing

54:51 ↗ um I always like to get transit on the

54:53 ↗ table

54:53 ↗ so I don't know what we would do with

54:56 ↗ that but I just want to make sure we're

54:58 ↗ not just focused on roads so we're

54:59 ↗ talking about Transportation but we're

55:01 ↗ also talking about the transit and

55:03 ↗ mobility issues that we face as a

55:06 ↗ community so but I think first of all we

55:09 ↗ get to know each other and then find out

55:11 ↗ what their passion are and then we go

55:14 ↗ from there so

55:17 ↗ but uh just one more comment then I

55:20 ↗ completely agree

55:21 ↗ um with what you said in terms of

55:23 ↗ um how we're approaching them to see if

55:26 ↗ they need any support from us I I

55:27 ↗ another thing though I want to make sure

55:29 ↗ this committee doesn't lose is I've met

55:31 ↗ with the transportation Advisory Board

55:32 ↗ leadership previously and they're very

55:35 ↗ interested in how they can better

55:37 ↗ support us as decision makers so I think

55:40 ↗ that that is kind of the productive

55:43 ↗ conversation that Council needs to have

55:44 ↗ but maybe this committee has it first

55:47 ↗ and then goes to council so maybe that

55:49 ↗ could be a discussion we have at the

55:50 ↗ next

55:51 ↗ committee meeting

55:52 ↗ okay could you at least bring it up in a

55:55 ↗ weekly leadership meeting with I think

55:57 ↗ that's the grace of the admin and then

55:59 ↗ just to get their feedback we'll do

56:00 ↗ fantastic that's great

56:02 ↗ does that give you enough guidance for

56:04 ↗ Deputy Administrator Snyder go ahead

56:06 ↗ thank you that was extremely helpful

56:09 ↗ great conversation

56:11 ↗ um just uh if we talk about going to tab

56:14 ↗ in September it looks like September

56:16 ↗ 15th would be their regular meeting day

56:19 ↗ so I just want to check availability

56:21 ↗ before I start to coordinate with tab

56:26 ↗ foreign

56:40 ↗ that looks fine for me I'm in an all-day

56:43 ↗ conference on Bill Green projects so

56:45 ↗ it'll be just a great day

56:48 ↗ great thank you very much Council

56:51 ↗ appreciate that

56:53 ↗ okay any other business or announcements

56:57 ↗ go to the order items for this committee

57:01 ↗ for the mobility and infrastructure

57:02 ↗ committee on July 12th if not then we

57:05 ↗ are adjourned at 7 28.

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