Transportation Advisory Board · Thursday, October 20, 2022 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of July 21, 2022

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APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 07-21-22 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Transportation Advisory Board 6:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. July 21, 2022 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

Minutes of August 4, 2022

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APPROVAL OF MINUTES b) 08-04-22 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [1] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Transportation Advisory Board 6:00 PM Tibbetts Manor, 750 17th Ave. August 4, 2022 MINUTES NW, Issaquah

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

ITS Plan Objectives

Action · Isabel Diaz, Traffic Signal Operations Engineer · packet pp.7–35

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The Mobility Master Plan (MMP) established actions to support adopted policies for automobile goals (MMP, pages 35-39). Goals included reviewing and applying Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS) that adapt to changes in travel behavior and prioritizes the safety of people using the system.

7:25 PM Plan (D)

Thomas Valdriz, Senior Transportation Planner

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5. REPORTS

Board Work Plan

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Transportation Improvement Program (TIP) Update Equity Update Transit Study Intro Update Performance Metrics Intro ADA Transition Plan Intro Concurrency Update ITS Study Intro Update Parks Projects Metro Parks Wayfinding 2023 Comprehensive Plan Mobility Master Plan (MMP) 2023 Board Work Plan Open Public Meetings & Public Records Act Training Transit Shuttle Options for Squak & Talus Intro Update Public Works Street Standards Update Intro TIP Process Intro Update

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Public Works 670 – 1st Ave NE | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 425-837-3470 issaquahwa.gov

Chair Report

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0:00 ↗ okay uh good evening I'd like to welcome

0:04 ↗ everyone to the regular monthly meeting

0:06 ↗ at the transportation advisory award my

0:08 ↗ name is Cynthia Crouch and I'm excited

0:10 ↗ to share this board uh I'd like to start

0:12 ↗ by recognizing that Jerry Bernstein is

0:15 ↗ now a regular member so we're not going

0:17 ↗ to be recognizing her every single

0:18 ↗ meeting anymore

0:20 ↗ a regular member

0:22 ↗ um you also might know another or a

0:26 ↗ smaller group

0:27 ↗ um so this might not end up happening

0:29 ↗ but you might know or whatever that is

0:31 ↗ they'll send a note out earlier this

0:33 ↗ month I mentioned that we had a lot to

0:34 ↗ get through and we were hoping people

0:35 ↗ could stay until 8 30 is there anybody

0:38 ↗ that can't stay until late

0:40 ↗ foreign

0:43 ↗ and then that brings us to the minutes

0:46 ↗ I'm seeking approval of the July 21st

0:49 ↗ and August 20 minutes by unanimous

0:50 ↗ consent as presented

0:54 ↗ hearing no objections and this are

0:58 ↗ approved as presented

1:01 ↗ um that brings us to public comment

1:06 ↗ did I forget any other introductor in my

1:08 ↗ case

1:09 ↗ hello and I am not seeing anyone log

1:13 ↗ into the white body comments

1:16 ↗ all right well we started late but we're

1:19 ↗ catching up fast uh it's time for

1:22 ↗ regular business and we'll start with

1:24 ↗ item 4A the its plan objectives is

1:30 ↗ thank you

1:34 ↗ [Music]

1:35 ↗ Maureen

1:49 ↗ good evening I am Isabel Diaz profit

1:52 ↗ signal operations engineer and I will be

1:56 ↗ presenting today about the its plan and

2:01 ↗ in particular about the space a specific

2:04 ↗ specifically about the objectives of the

2:07 ↗ its plan

2:08 ↗ just as an introduction its stands for

2:12 ↗ intelligent Transportation Systems its

2:15 ↗ Institute yourself and technology for

2:18 ↗ traffic management and operation

2:22 ↗ you will recall

2:24 ↗ um in back in April earlier this year we

2:28 ↗ presented about the its plan and the

2:34 ↗ we received the request from the tab

2:37 ↗ that we include public

2:40 ↗ um

2:41 ↗ Public public feedback on the its

2:45 ↗ on on

2:50 ↗ proposed

2:52 ↗ areas where we could invest in its

2:56 ↗ and in response to that we had released

2:59 ↗ a

3:00 ↗ nxts of an its Community survey and for

3:06 ↗ a bit that survey we

3:09 ↗ release that for over like about three

3:12 ↗ weeks out uh in our

3:16 ↗ email

3:19 ↗ and we have received 160 responses for

3:23 ↗ kits survey and we will talk a little

3:26 ↗ bit tonight we will talk a little bit

3:29 ↗ about the survey results and we will go

3:32 ↗ over the its plan goals and for each

3:37 ↗ goal we will base

3:40 ↗ um some uh of the its plan objectives

3:43 ↗ and then at the end it will have an open

3:47 ↗ discussion for each of the its plan

3:50 ↗ goals

3:55 ↗ the direction that we will be meeting

3:58 ↗ tonight is to get the prioritization of

4:01 ↗ the its plan objectives

4:04 ↗ we then the reason why we need this is

4:08 ↗ because the next step in the its plan

4:11 ↗ will be to provide a list of projects

4:15 ↗ and strategies that will address the its

4:18 ↗ objectives but before we do that

4:20 ↗ we need to make sure we have our

4:23 ↗ objectives defined

4:26 ↗ so tonight is specific question that we

4:29 ↗ will be asking the tab would be what are

4:32 ↗ the top three transportation technology

4:35 ↗ objectives that the city should address

4:37 ↗ for each of the its number

4:45 ↗ on earlier in this summer we have

4:49 ↗ released the community survey and

4:52 ↗ part of the the way that we tailor this

4:56 ↗ survey is that we

4:58 ↗ divided its areas and we had asked the

5:03 ↗ community to rank those ideas areas

5:05 ↗ where we should be investing on and

5:09 ↗ they they ranked each of the priorities

5:13 ↗ from highest and to the list to the

5:16 ↗ least important

5:19 ↗ uh put it that way um to the least

5:22 ↗ important for them uh uh for on their

5:26 ↗ each area and those areas that we

5:29 ↗ provided to the community were toddler

5:31 ↗ information

5:33 ↗ public transportation

5:35 ↗ safety at signals performance measures

5:38 ↗ and environmental impacts

5:41 ↗ and the results that we receive

5:43 ↗ D from the community

5:45 ↗ traveler information was selected as the

5:49 ↗ top priority for most of the responders

5:53 ↗ with 34 percent of the responses

5:57 ↗ selecting traveling information as the

6:00 ↗ most important one

6:02 ↗ next was safety on signalized

6:06 ↗ intersections and then performance

6:09 ↗ measures

6:11 ↗ the two areas that were select selected

6:14 ↗ as the list in the Run priority were

6:18 ↗ environmental feedback and performance

6:20 ↗ measure performance sorry

6:23 ↗ environmental impact and

6:28 ↗ public transportation

6:30 ↗ environmental impact

6:33 ↗ five percent and public transportation

6:36 ↗ uh 13 selected it as a top priority

6:41 ↗ um we will not go over more details in

6:45 ↗ the community survey results but uh just

6:48 ↗ to briefly go through

6:50 ↗ each of the main

6:53 ↗ um

6:54 ↗ areas that were selected as the highest

6:56 ↗ priority inside traveler information we

7:00 ↗ have given some options on different

7:03 ↗ ideas of where we could be investing

7:06 ↗ that are related to travel information

7:07 ↗ and the one that was selected as the

7:10 ↗ most importantly travel information data

7:12 ↗ that

7:13 ↗ the public selected as the one that

7:17 ↗ wanted to uh they wanted to have the

7:19 ↗ most was the travel times

7:21 ↗ and in terms of travel times uh yeah

7:26 ↗ it's the point a from 2 point B how much

7:29 ↗ time you would get uh if it would take

7:32 ↗ to get there that was selected as the

7:34 ↗ data the travel information data that

7:36 ↗ the public wanted to to have the most

7:40 ↗ in terms of traffic safety and

7:44 ↗ signalized intersection for that one is

7:47 ↗ it was a little bit interesting because

7:50 ↗ the top two were ranked about the same

7:56 ↗ percentage which was like 30 over 30

8:00 ↗ each one but combined if we were to

8:03 ↗ combine it it would be set like about 70

8:06 ↗ percent and it was related to pedestrian

8:10 ↗ um the safety has signals but combined

8:13 ↗ between the two of them related to

8:14 ↗ pedestrians and the two pedestrian

8:17 ↗ issues that were selected at the at the

8:20 ↗ most important was The Pedestrian

8:23 ↗ conflicts at signals pedestrian and

8:26 ↗ vehicular conflict and the others was

8:28 ↗ pedestrian visibility

8:30 ↗ so pedestrian safety was basically the

8:35 ↗ top priority in terms of the safety of

8:38 ↗ signal as intersections and also for

8:41 ↗ performance measures the measure the

8:44 ↗ performance the measurement that was

8:46 ↗ selected as the one more most

8:49 ↗ it should be investing on or or

8:52 ↗ going after was travel time and

8:56 ↗ poliolets travel times but not for you

8:59 ↗ so we can see a

9:02 ↗ repeatedly interest from the public in

9:04 ↗ travel times

9:07 ↗ in addition to the community survey

9:11 ↗ uh something else uh something else that

9:14 ↗ we did to be able to gather the

9:17 ↗ information for the where our priorities

9:20 ↗ should be

9:22 ↗ um was to do internal stakeholder

9:26 ↗ workshops and for that we selected key

9:30 ↗ staff member from each department that

9:34 ↗ provided their input on

9:37 ↗ is on these objectives or needs in terms

9:42 ↗ of technology and the different

9:45 ↗ departments work for the boards and

9:48 ↗ Information Technology Community

9:50 ↗ planning and development

9:52 ↗ and

9:53 ↗ City Administration as well and

9:55 ↗ Communications

10:00 ↗ after receiving the input from both the

10:03 ↗ community surveys and the internal

10:07 ↗ stakeholder workshops that we did we had

10:11 ↗ propose a list of its landlords and

10:15 ↗ these plan goals are statements that

10:18 ↗ would help prioritize the make the

10:21 ↗ priorities for the its brand

10:24 ↗ these six examples that we have

10:27 ↗ identified include improving Safety and

10:30 ↗ Security in the transportation system

10:33 ↗ improving efficiency of the

10:35 ↗ transportation system

10:38 ↗ provide accurate traveler information

10:41 ↗ the implementation of cost efficient its

10:44 ↗ infrastructure

10:47 ↗ integrating its projects within the city

10:50 ↗ with regional partners

10:52 ↗ and monitoring Transportation

10:54 ↗ performance measures if you recall what

10:58 ↗ we have seen from the

11:00 ↗ stakeholder stakeholders sorry for the

11:03 ↗ from the community surveys

11:07 ↗ these goals go in alignment with what we

11:10 ↗ have seen in the in the community survey

11:14 ↗ installs

11:22 ↗ to kind of remind what we are going to

11:26 ↗ do we are going to do to do an exercise

11:28 ↗ where we will be selecting from each of

11:32 ↗ the goals what are the top the top three

11:35 ↗ transportation technology objectives

11:37 ↗ that the city should address for each to

11:40 ↗ accomplish each of the its finals

11:47 ↗ for each of the goals we will be

11:50 ↗ preserving at least similar to this one

11:51 ↗ and I will be sharing some

11:55 ↗ papers to each of you so to try to make

11:59 ↗ it easier so we have a discussion on

12:05 ↗ probably

12:06 ↗ by wanting time

12:09 ↗ for each one of them how much to spend

12:12 ↗ we can

12:13 ↗ provide this question on what are your

12:16 ↗ top your information of the goals

12:20 ↗ maybe have a an open discussion on why

12:23 ↗ are you selecting the top three and

12:25 ↗ ideally we could get a consensus from

12:29 ↗ the top and the top three after hearing

12:32 ↗ from each other why

12:34 ↗ um

12:34 ↗ you think

12:36 ↗ those are the top three for each um so

12:39 ↗ you have an idea for

12:41 ↗ the goals uh as I mentioned is are the

12:45 ↗ our statements that are going to help us

12:50 ↗ prioritize

12:51 ↗ different projects in the in the its

12:54 ↗ plan and objectives are

12:58 ↗ ways in which we are going to accomplish

13:00 ↗ each one of those of those goals

13:07 ↗ maybe had a mistake in the way I was

13:11 ↗ thinking about this but we're not

13:13 ↗ prioritizing the goals the goals of the

13:17 ↗ its plan is planning to

13:20 ↗ hit all six of those goals none of the

13:22 ↗ goals we the its plan

13:24 ↗ will

13:26 ↗ address also will attempt to provide uh

13:29 ↗ to address each one of the goals

13:32 ↗ depending on the projects but some of

13:35 ↗ the goals might end up with more

13:37 ↗ projects than the others and we uh they

13:41 ↗ could

13:42 ↗ we have four ways

13:44 ↗ um one of the goals depending on the

13:46 ↗ number of projects listed for them but

13:49 ↗ what we are going to

13:51 ↗ select are the objectives the idea that

13:54 ↗ we can address each of the goals okay

13:58 ↗ skeptical that we can really hit all the

14:00 ↗ goals but but we could we could go we

14:03 ↗ could actually that was that was one of

14:06 ↗ the I I was planning on it if we have

14:09 ↗ time maybe at the end we can

14:13 ↗ select from the goals what are our top

14:16 ↗ goals that we should do case we have to

14:20 ↗ prioritize the goal between the projects

14:23 ↗ proposed

14:24 ↗ so that was yes that was a

14:27 ↗ an alternative

14:29 ↗ um

14:30 ↗ feedback if we get time with the time we

14:33 ↗ could get on the on the selection of the

14:35 ↗ Box okay

14:38 ↗ so

14:40 ↗ should I have to leave around or is this

14:42 ↗ like oh no yes so

14:46 ↗ um

14:47 ↗ what I suggest that we do is budget 10

14:50 ↗ minutes per goal and I think I'm just a

14:55 ↗ big believer

14:57 ↗ in

14:58 ↗ actually

15:00 ↗ writing

15:01 ↗ down so that when you start to hear what

15:04 ↗ other people have to say you get to

15:07 ↗ remember what it is and so this is super

15:09 ↗ helpful

15:10 ↗ um I have this in writing but I mean we

15:12 ↗ should just take a couple minutes and

15:14 ↗ you make some people may have already

15:16 ↗ come prepared that this I actually spent

15:18 ↗ more my energy preparing for a

15:20 ↗ discussion about which goal isn't that

15:22 ↗ important so I need a little to think a

15:25 ↗ little harder for just a minute but

15:28 ↗ let's maybe budget let's but let's take

15:30 ↗ uh you know three minutes maybe to uh

15:34 ↗ for everyone to just do their own and I

15:37 ↗ encourage you to write it down and

15:39 ↗ you're certainly allowed to change from

15:40 ↗ what you write down when you hear uh

15:42 ↗ others talk about it but I just think

15:44 ↗ it's helpful to actually like paper even

15:47 ↗ temporarily what it is that you think

15:49 ↗ you thought five minutes ago I can

15:52 ↗ sometimes be so heavily persuaded by

15:54 ↗ someone else that I forget what I

15:55 ↗ originally thought

15:56 ↗ um so I think it promotes good

15:58 ↗ discussion but let's just take a couple

16:00 ↗ minutes for everyone to just write down

16:01 ↗ what they think and then let's budget 10

16:03 ↗ minutes per

16:04 ↗ um so maybe starting all time

16:14 ↗ and as we go through the objective think

16:17 ↗ about how how these objectives

16:21 ↗ um these objectives are going to

16:23 ↗ accomplish each of the goals since just

16:26 ↗ the next three minutes per goal no I

16:29 ↗ think let's just take

16:30 ↗ um

16:31 ↗ unless we don't think that's enough time

16:33 ↗ three minutes just to to go ahead and

16:36 ↗ write down what

16:37 ↗ um for you for yourself and then we'll

16:39 ↗ discuss it for we'll budget 10 minutes

16:41 ↗ per goal

16:43 ↗ to discuss it but if you think that's

16:45 ↗ not enough time to

16:47 ↗ scroll on your paper and then we can

16:49 ↗ address that okay

16:51 ↗ we are

16:53 ↗ ranking these oh gear you're just

16:56 ↗ picking your jobs

16:58 ↗ not in any kind of right order just or

17:01 ↗ well you can if you want

17:05 ↗ yeah

17:10 ↗ the presentations that you have there

17:12 ↗ that I can see on them image

17:15 ↗ it's just not showing off on the website

17:20 ↗ you're talking about that the

17:22 ↗ presentation that's up on the screen

17:24 ↗ and I was just looking at the

17:25 ↗ presentations on here I couldn't I got

17:27 ↗ very presentation I couldn't find what

17:29 ↗ was on the screen

17:31 ↗ this looks familiar to me

17:34 ↗ did it did you guys see this in our

17:36 ↗ materials

17:38 ↗ please

17:40 ↗ so the last

17:43 ↗ link under yes it's the last the last

17:46 ↗ one on their its language

17:49 ↗ of your presentation yes

17:52 ↗ yeah it's slide seven

17:54 ↗ oh

17:57 ↗ and the one that we are showing right

18:01 ↗ now for the goals to improve the Safety

18:04 ↗ and Security of the transportation

18:05 ↗ system are listed on each one of them

18:08 ↗ are listed on the papers that I provided

18:34 ↗ foreign

19:26 ↗ I just I thought I was the only one that

19:29 ↗ didn't already go through this in detail

19:31 ↗ so I thought maybe we'd be faster so I

19:34 ↗ think I kind of misunderstood the

19:35 ↗ assignment and my as I Was preparing my

19:40 ↗ thinking that an inside towards the

19:42 ↗ record I should be meeting the goals and

19:45 ↗ objectives quickly

19:48 ↗ the goal that we are about to have a

19:52 ↗ discussion is the first one improve the

19:55 ↗ Safety and Security of the

19:56 ↗ transportation system

19:58 ↗ and the objectives we have identified

20:01 ↗ your complete that goal

20:03 ↗ are reduced rashes impacting old people

20:07 ↗ walking biking driving

20:10 ↗ improve emergency response time

20:13 ↗ Implement and maintain its related

20:16 ↗ technology and strategies that

20:18 ↗ proactively work to prevent incidents

20:20 ↗ from the Earth

20:22 ↗ reduce the conflict between people using

20:24 ↗ different modes of transportation

20:27 ↗ coordinate evacuation strategies and

20:30 ↗ emergency responses with other local and

20:32 ↗ Regional agencies

20:34 ↗ identify and supported redundant

20:37 ↗ networks and services to to improve

20:40 ↗ emergency preparedness

20:42 ↗ and prepare signal timing plans for

20:45 ↗ special events in an emergency scenario

21:16 ↗ foreign

22:11 ↗ foreign

22:18 ↗ foreign

22:53 ↗ thank you

23:00 ↗ are you finished

23:02 ↗ how about you Jerry how are you doing

23:06 ↗ I'm slow

23:08 ↗ I got two more five to six I'm not I'm

23:12 ↗ still on goal too

23:15 ↗ or maybe it's fine

23:18 ↗ oh you don't have to go over all the

23:20 ↗ goals we are just

23:21 ↗ um I was actually uh oh having him do

23:25 ↗ all of them because I was operating on

23:27 ↗ the assumption that most people had

23:29 ↗ already because we've seen these

23:31 ↗ and I like I said I I thought it was

23:34 ↗ just me that hadn't read them in detail

23:36 ↗ because no you're not alone but I was

23:39 ↗ focused one level higher and

23:44 ↗ but we can maybe just

23:47 ↗ see how it goes well let's take another

23:49 ↗ um let's take another two minutes and

23:51 ↗ then let's

23:53 ↗ um start in on them because maybe

23:56 ↗ it would have been better if we had just

23:58 ↗ done it one at a time too much to

24:00 ↗ consume all that at once

24:02 ↗ at once I think I think it's better to

24:04 ↗ do a multiple times all right the right

24:06 ↗ way to go

24:07 ↗ just kind of moved

24:11 ↗ all right I'm gonna stop timing

24:14 ↗ it's just

24:16 ↗ take what it takes

24:19 ↗ enjoy something I should read through

24:22 ↗ all of them before into the record yes

24:25 ↗ yes carry on okay uh you just model

24:28 ↗ along over there

24:32 ↗ I'll go over the second goal that

24:36 ↗ the tab will be discussing the second

24:38 ↗ goal is in proving the efficiency

24:40 ↗ efficiency of transportation system

24:43 ↗ improve the efficiency of transportation

24:45 ↗ system the objectives that were

24:47 ↗ identified are the following

24:50 ↗ optimize travel time enhance reliability

24:54 ↗ between workflowish emerging

24:56 ↗ Technologies prioritizing people safety

24:59 ↗ and community benefit

25:01 ↗ optimize operations of signals along and

25:04 ↗ along corridors

25:08 ↗ hot spots

25:10 ↗ prioritize Transit projects that provide

25:13 ↗ safety accessibility and convenience for

25:16 ↗ all users and low income community

25:19 ↗ improve traffic flow during school

25:22 ↗ drop-off and pick up

25:24 ↗ studies to understand impacts of

25:26 ↗ Development and Construction

25:29 ↗ mitigate impacts of roadway cultures

25:33 ↗ anticipate and plan for the future

25:35 ↗ growth

25:36 ↗ reduced fuel consumption

25:39 ↗ reduce environmental impacts and

25:41 ↗ encourage alternative modes deploy

25:44 ↗ infrastructure to meet Rising demand for

25:47 ↗ electric vehicles

25:48 ↗ a good efficiency of Maintenance and

25:51 ↗ operations efforts

26:06 ↗ goal number three

26:08 ↗ provide accuracy other information

26:17 ↗ variety of media used to share traveler

26:20 ↗ information based on needs and sentences

26:22 ↗ of Transportation users

26:25 ↗ provide real-time traveler information

26:27 ↗ for all people using the transportation

26:30 ↗ system

26:31 ↗ provide real-time road conditions and

26:34 ↗ weather information at key locations

26:36 ↗ with no issues

26:38 ↗ support centralized systems that provide

26:40 ↗ the following information like plans and

26:43 ↗ real-time information about construction

26:44 ↗ activities and work zones real-time

26:47 ↗ incident information

26:50 ↗ coordinate with original agencies to

26:52 ↗ provide further information

26:55 ↗ integrated City develop information and

26:57 ↗ call based into major routing providers

27:00 ↗ examples like Google Maps and weight

27:03 ↗ considered use of existing

27:05 ↗ infrastructure display interpreter

27:08 ↗ information and travel decision points

27:12 ↗ goal number four develop and deploy cost

27:16 ↗ petition its infrastructure the

27:18 ↗ objectives for a goal number four are

27:21 ↗ deploy systems that maximize the use of

27:24 ↗ existing infrastructure where possible

27:27 ↗ to deploy systems that are integrated

27:29 ↗ with existing its infrastructure

27:32 ↗ deploy systems that are integrated with

27:35 ↗ future Transportation infrastructure

27:37 ↗ improvements

27:39 ↗ critical assistance with a high benefit

27:41 ↗ to cost ratio with emphasis on

27:43 ↗ cost-effective equipment to average the

27:47 ↗ greatest value possible

27:48 ↗ operations

27:54 ↗ integrate deployments with existing and

27:57 ↗ enroll in local and Regional projects

27:59 ↗ coordinate funding opportunities with

28:02 ↗ public and private Partners deploy

28:05 ↗ sustainable ideas infrastructure that

28:07 ↗ can be maintained long-term

28:09 ↗ maintained or replace aging traffic

28:12 ↗ control devices equipment

28:14 ↗ here ideas infrastructure and other

28:17 ↗ Civic assets

28:20 ↗ goal number five

28:23 ↗ and cigarette and tea break CV its

28:26 ↗ projects with regional partners

28:29 ↗ the objectives are

28:31 ↗ share infrastructure resources between

28:34 ↗ local and Regional agencies

28:36 ↗ continue to coordinate and integrate

28:38 ↗ projects with other agencies

28:41 ↗ create and build public and private

28:44 ↗ Partnerships for IBS deployment

28:46 ↗ operations and maintenance

28:48 ↗ promote interoperability of persistence

28:52 ↗ and devices to effectively manage the

28:54 ↗ system

28:55 ↗ participating vulnerability

28:57 ↗ opportunities to align with the

28:59 ↗ region-wide its Mission following the

29:02 ↗ completion of this planet effort

29:06 ↗ the last bowl book number six monitor

29:09 ↗ Transportation performance measures

29:12 ↗ you objectives for goal number six are

29:15 ↗ collect and record Transportation data

29:18 ↗ such as traffic volume Speed Build

29:20 ↗ occupancy and incident data

29:23 ↗ May Transportation data accessible

29:25 ↗ between jurisdictions and third parties

29:28 ↗ maintain a geographic information system

29:30 ↗ GIS database of the transportation

29:33 ↗ infrastructure including iterative

29:35 ↗ devices

29:36 ↗ automate and develop efficient systems

29:39 ↗ for collecting storing and analyzing

29:42 ↗ Transportation data and performance

29:43 ↗ measures

29:45 ↗ leverage collected and third-party data

29:47 ↗ from planning operational and safety

29:50 ↗ studies

29:51 ↗ and make use of Brokers third-party

29:54 ↗ performance measurement solutions to

29:56 ↗ provide performance measure aggregation

29:58 ↗ and Analytics and visualization tools

30:03 ↗ such as dashboards

30:06 ↗ thank you

30:09 ↗ how are you doing Jerry I'm I'm pretty

30:12 ↗ good okay maybe three and four I might

30:15 ↗ not be done with but

30:17 ↗ we're okay

30:20 ↗ so let's go ahead and start with Goal

30:22 ↗ one and um just uh let's see how do we

30:26 ↗ um

30:27 ↗ who wants to start I guess I'll kick it

30:31 ↗ off

30:31 ↗ I'm just looking at the survey

30:35 ↗ the graphics from that survey I think

30:39 ↗ there needs to be realization that it's

30:42 ↗ to be weighted away from what the survey

30:44 ↗ was saying in terms of really building

30:47 ↗ out more polynomial and Regional

30:50 ↗ approach to the IPS goals and objectives

30:55 ↗ um you know for example I drive my own

30:57 ↗ Vehicles was 97 of the responses and

31:01 ↗ that's not the oldest stickiness come up

31:03 ↗ it is more like

31:05 ↗ 75 of what I believe and so

31:09 ↗ um it's obviously going to be a little

31:11 ↗ more tilted and then the age I think is

31:13 ↗ also kind of slanted

31:16 ↗ um in terms of

31:18 ↗ 1564 probably does not make up 37 of the

31:21 ↗ population here in Issaquah and the

31:24 ↗ three other faculties here so I think

31:26 ↗ when we're looking at through the rest

31:28 ↗ of the goals as well we should be

31:30 ↗ looking at something that makes the

31:31 ↗ transportation Network or this its plan

31:35 ↗ more Regional

31:37 ↗ and then more

31:39 ↗ integrated with other areas as well and

31:43 ↗ also more multi-mole and more making it

31:46 ↗ safe between the

31:49 ↗ between the most transportation and so

31:51 ↗ you know for goal one my top three was

31:54 ↗ obviously reduce crashes impacting all

31:56 ↗ people through all moves and

31:58 ↗ transportation and then Implement and

32:01 ↗ maintain IPS related technology that

32:05 ↗ proactively Works to prevent incidents

32:07 ↗ from occurring in the first place uh

32:09 ↗ and then the third one I would say is

32:12 ↗ reduce the conflict between people using

32:13 ↗ different modes of transportation so

32:16 ↗ those are my top three

32:19 ↗ and before we go to the next I want to

32:22 ↗ say even

32:23 ↗ anyone

32:26 ↗ thinks there is an objective that should

32:28 ↗ be included for a goal specific

32:31 ↗ objective that should be included and

32:33 ↗ it's not reflected here

32:35 ↗ basically afraid to

32:38 ↗ proposal

32:41 ↗ all right I can add some comments just

32:44 ↗ to go one right when I was reading them

32:47 ↗ I thought they were only really three

32:50 ↗ goals in there

32:52 ↗ so I felt like there was goal one which

32:56 ↗ was reduced crashes impacting all people

33:00 ↗ walking biking driving and then if you

33:03 ↗ go down to I'm calling it 1A you go down

33:07 ↗ to the third bullet Implement and

33:10 ↗ maintain related its related technology

33:14 ↗ and strategies that proactively work to

33:17 ↗ prevent in a sentence from from

33:19 ↗ occurring that's kind of like a sub goal

33:21 ↗ and so is the next one below that reduce

33:23 ↗ the conflict which people using

33:25 ↗ different modes of transportation that's

33:28 ↗ all basically the same idea

33:30 ↗ you just want to reduce crashes and then

33:34 ↗ there's one a and one B is is ways to do

33:38 ↗ it and the same thing with two I had

33:42 ↗ identify and support redundant networks

33:45 ↗ and services to improve emergency

33:47 ↗ preparedness

33:49 ↗ and then the one above that

33:52 ↗ I called it 2A coordinate evacuation

33:55 ↗ strategy it's an emergency responses

33:57 ↗ with other local Regional agencies

34:01 ↗ and then number three

34:03 ↗ oh wait a minute

34:08 ↗ and then

34:11 ↗ oh I think three improve emergency

34:13 ↗ response times was also

34:16 ↗ um free

34:19 ↗ and then 3A was prepare signal timing

34:21 ↗ plans for special events and emergency

34:23 ↗ scenarios

34:25 ↗ so I I felt like there were mainly three

34:29 ↗ goals

34:30 ↗ you know emergency response improve

34:33 ↗ emergency response times reduced crashes

34:37 ↗ and identify support redundant networks

34:40 ↗ and services to improve emergency

34:44 ↗ so I I felt there was like three goals

34:46 ↗ there anyway already does that make

34:48 ↗ sense it makes a lot of sense

34:50 ↗ um yeah I was kind of thinking about

34:52 ↗ that

34:54 ↗ and I um I'm just trying to

34:58 ↗ let's note that put a pin in that

35:00 ↗ because I want to come back to that but

35:01 ↗ I want to go ahead and

35:02 ↗ um

35:03 ↗ let everybody share with their

35:06 ↗ answers were and then we can yeah I

35:08 ↗ think we should talk about that a little

35:09 ↗ bit Yeah I find myself aligning with

35:12 ↗ kind of

35:13 ↗ directions that Julian had and Jerry are

35:15 ↗ going I agree about how some of these

35:17 ↗ frankly and looking at all

35:19 ↗ or their

35:21 ↗ related to each other

35:22 ↗ and uh

35:25 ↗ so my first one was reviews and crashes

35:27 ↗ impact technical people talking about

35:28 ↗ e-driving Etc

35:30 ↗ uh second one reducing conflict between

35:33 ↗ you

35:34 ↗ people's transportation

35:37 ↗ and the third one is improving

35:39 ↗ University response times when

35:43 ↗ unfortunately if these do happen so like

35:45 ↗ I see it as

35:47 ↗ like prevention and then

35:49 ↗ addressing it

35:51 ↗ if and when it happens

35:53 ↗ um I'm close for me was implementing and

35:56 ↗ maintaining IPS related technology and

35:58 ↗ strategies to practically prevent this

36:01 ↗ so again just seeing those names of

36:05 ↗ prevention and then addressing him

36:07 ↗ when it happens

36:14 ↗ uh

36:19 ↗ for these crashes and we're just a

36:21 ↗ couple different people and from an idea

36:24 ↗ the correctly work to prevent accidents

36:26 ↗ are all the same

36:27 ↗ thing

36:29 ↗ approved emergency response times and

36:31 ↗ identifying support for proving an

36:33 ↗ emergency preparedness a little

36:36 ↗ different uh

36:37 ↗ I think now

36:39 ↗ thinking that another five years are

36:41 ↗ going to have massive horsepowers on

36:42 ↗ this side how do we evacuate downtown

36:44 ↗ and let's go out and people are bombs

36:46 ↗ walked out to get out here so I do think

36:48 ↗ that looking down the road emergency

36:50 ↗ preparedness is important we have

36:52 ↗ evacuate people on develop a certain

36:54 ↗ area

36:56 ↗ um

36:57 ↗ and then I thought position crashes just

36:59 ↗ impacting all people to me that takes

37:01 ↗ into account the other two

37:03 ↗ let's say that'd be number one emergency

37:06 ↗ response number two

37:08 ↗ uh the special events emergency

37:11 ↗ scenarios I don't know what that means

37:13 ↗ um if any massive concert series it's

37:16 ↗ not yet

37:18 ↗ um

37:19 ↗ so to me it's the emergency emergency

37:21 ↗ evacuation and resisting questions

37:26 ↗ three cables

37:28 ↗ okay thanks um so just I checked the

37:33 ↗ first three but uh so reduce crashes

37:35 ↗ affecting all people and who respond to

37:38 ↗ times and

37:40 ↗ um

37:40 ↗ maintain its related technology to

37:42 ↗ prevent accidents from occurring but I I

37:45 ↗ do agree and I think that maybe we

37:48 ↗ should take just a moment

37:50 ↗ I what I'm just what I'm assuming when I

37:52 ↗ read this is that there's people that

37:54 ↗ make their living working with its

37:57 ↗ technology and they would say to us that

38:01 ↗ they that there are different that that

38:03 ↗ these different things while they seem

38:04 ↗ subtle when described in this list form

38:07 ↗ might lead you to different specifics

38:10 ↗ and I think maybe we're missing that a

38:12 ↗ little bit and I suspect because there

38:16 ↗ is a lot of things that feel really

38:17 ↗ redundant so maybe

38:19 ↗ um what would be useful if you have an

38:22 ↗ answer for some of why these things

38:25 ↗ if you think they're not as redundant as

38:27 ↗ they're coming across to us then that

38:29 ↗ might be useful

38:31 ↗ um and then if not maybe we just want to

38:33 ↗ get at the essence of what we think is

38:36 ↗ most important and I I think the only

38:38 ↗ one that fell off a little bit of the

38:40 ↗ bottom was the special events and we do

38:42 ↗ have football games and we have salmon

38:43 ↗ days and we have things but I I think um

38:46 ↗ emergency response times and I um

38:51 ↗ is you know I guess I just assume that

38:54 ↗ emergency response times could be that

38:56 ↗ the last one could be taken care of by

38:59 ↗ the first the number two so

39:02 ↗ um yeah I'm a little unclear about how

39:07 ↗ what this subtle differences the meaning

39:10 ↗ behind these subtle differences

39:14 ↗ but I also I wanted to get back to your

39:16 ↗ opening comment but I wanted to say oh I

39:20 ↗ think you make a very good point as far

39:22 ↗ as the I wasn't thinking of emergency

39:24 ↗ special events but salmon day is a

39:26 ↗ special event okay and so I think

39:28 ↗ there's its for everyday preparedness

39:30 ↗ and then

39:37 ↗ sort of like but I think that what I'm

39:39 ↗ hearing is that kind of fell off in

39:41 ↗ terms of the priority yes if

39:47 ↗ yeah prepare some plans for special

39:49 ↗ events would be a lower priority because

39:52 ↗ it doesn't happen that often and people

39:54 ↗ can live with it

39:56 ↗ it's a huge inconvenience but it's not a

39:58 ↗ safety issue all right when we're

40:00 ↗ talking about the cost versus benefits

40:01 ↗ exactly yeah yeah so that's the only one

40:04 ↗ that I feel like is easy everything else

40:06 ↗ is just to consolidate it's just a

40:08 ↗ consolidation

40:09 ↗ um and I guess I also just want to kind

40:11 ↗ of go on the record and say that I do

40:13 ↗ agree with Julian that the community

40:14 ↗ survey is heavily skewed towards drive

40:17 ↗ along older people and so I think it's

40:19 ↗ it's worth considering it's worth

40:20 ↗ knowing what those people had to say but

40:23 ↗ I agree we have a master Mobility plan

40:25 ↗ we have our safety objectives we have

40:27 ↗ multimodal objectives and that um

40:31 ↗ you know being aware of those comments

40:33 ↗ is useful but that's not necessarily

40:35 ↗ driving

40:36 ↗ what I think is um

40:39 ↗ what I would respond and so I would

40:42 ↗ assume everyone would think

40:44 ↗ um what use all of the information you

40:47 ↗ have that to inform your you know

40:49 ↗ whatever it is that you think

40:51 ↗ and serving and kind of context

40:54 ↗ um but yeah kind of back to the whole

40:55 ↗ point about how

40:57 ↗ if you can share how they're not so

40:59 ↗ easily condensed and now we will go to

41:03 ↗ one uh specific so so just to try to

41:06 ↗ help with examples and

41:09 ↗ I agree in the sense that some of them

41:14 ↗ can be grouped into like that but what

41:18 ↗ we are mentioning are

41:19 ↗ are similar to goals keep in mind that

41:22 ↗ what we are detailing here are

41:25 ↗ objectives the way that objectives are

41:27 ↗ defined for this purpose are ways that

41:30 ↗ we can accomplish these goals for

41:33 ↗ example

41:34 ↗ um on the last

41:35 ↗ like

41:39 ↗ um

41:40 ↗ improving in emergency improving

41:44 ↗ emergency preparedness and emergency

41:46 ↗ scenarios the last two we the first one

41:50 ↗ we say identify support redundant

41:53 ↗ networks what we are saying there is

41:56 ↗ specifically like ramping up our

41:59 ↗ organizations Network so it's like

42:02 ↗ having that backup

42:03 ↗ in case one fails we have uh that backup

42:08 ↗ that we continue to have the service and

42:10 ↗ and it is aimed to improve emergency

42:13 ↗ preparedness but we are specifically

42:16 ↗ talking about the way that we are

42:19 ↗ helping with that emergency which

42:23 ↗ for that example is providing uh

42:27 ↗ identifying supporters redundant

42:29 ↗ networks which is like like bumping of

42:33 ↗ the backup Community system

42:36 ↗ communication system

42:38 ↗ when we say prepare signal timing plans

42:41 ↗ we are specifically

42:44 ↗ talking about the way

42:47 ↗ to the way that we are using to

42:51 ↗ accomplish a goal with signal timings

42:54 ↗ with changing signal times

42:59 ↗ and for this one uh we are

43:03 ↗ saying it would be not only for

43:05 ↗ emergency preparedness but also for

43:07 ↗ special events

43:12 ↗ coordinate evaluation strategies we

43:16 ↗ again mentioned the emergency responses

43:19 ↗ but we are specifically talking about

43:22 ↗ coordinating with other agencies

43:25 ↗ about the evacuation strategies and

43:29 ↗ of having that communication extra

43:31 ↗ communication with other agencies and

43:34 ↗ other jurisdictions paper jurisdictions

43:39 ↗ so yeah

43:41 ↗ well I I do think to some extent that is

43:45 ↗ I think that what we need to talk about

43:48 ↗ is

43:49 ↗ some at what where we would recommend

43:53 ↗ putting the effort

43:54 ↗ as far as trade-offs and so for example

43:59 ↗ improving emergency response times could

44:02 ↗ be a trade-off between reliability of a

44:06 ↗ certain response time and so redundancy

44:10 ↗ if reliability is your goal for response

44:13 ↗ times you you that would lead you

44:15 ↗ towards redundancy in your technology if

44:18 ↗ overall emergency response times are too

44:21 ↗ high right now

44:22 ↗ and we want to get them down then

44:25 ↗ redundancy may not be our number one

44:27 ↗ objective because that would be

44:28 ↗ reliability and so I think maybe we're

44:32 ↗ struggling a little because

44:34 ↗ weren't it's not presented to us in that

44:36 ↗ language it's presented to us in words

44:38 ↗ that are

44:40 ↗ maybe just one level down Beyond like

44:43 ↗ our expertise

44:44 ↗ and there it's not necessarily being

44:48 ↗ laid out is do you think this is more

44:50 ↗ important or this is more important with

44:51 ↗ regard to

44:53 ↗ what you're getting with each of these

44:55 ↗ Strat like objectives so like what I

44:58 ↗ just described like is it so redundancy

45:01 ↗ really to me speaks to reliability

45:04 ↗ so do we think reliability is more

45:07 ↗ important when it comes to Emergency

45:08 ↗ Response times

45:10 ↗ or do we think improving overall

45:12 ↗ emergency response is more important and

45:14 ↗ in that case I would say that another

45:15 ↗ problem that I'm having a little bit is

45:17 ↗ that

45:18 ↗ I I always like to think of this Matrix

45:20 ↗ of is it important and how are we doing

45:23 ↗ and that helps you figure out where to

45:26 ↗ put your money so let's say something is

45:28 ↗ really important but more money or more

45:31 ↗ its isn't really going to get us any

45:33 ↗ further or let's say something is

45:36 ↗ um it's moderately important but an

45:38 ↗ investment in its can improve it a lot

45:41 ↗ or something isn't super isn't as high

45:44 ↗ of priority

45:46 ↗ but boy just a little goes a long way

45:48 ↗ with technology or something like that

45:49 ↗ so I think that not knowing how we're

45:51 ↗ performing on armors I'm just not I'm

45:54 ↗ not um I think everyone here thinks that

45:58 ↗ emergency response times are important

46:01 ↗ and evacuation is probably really

46:02 ↗ important and we've been looking at you

46:05 ↗ know not being able to see our mountains

46:06 ↗ in the last couple days and it's not

46:08 ↗ hard to imagine we could be like you

46:10 ↗ just said in forest fire so but I don't

46:12 ↗ feel like we're

46:14 ↗ um

46:15 ↗ right people to be weighing in on that

46:18 ↗ so kind of thinking about resetting a

46:20 ↗ little bit

46:22 ↗ what are we saying about these different

46:25 ↗ choices under goal number one it is just

46:28 ↗ in regards to we have five other

46:31 ↗ categories so this is just some regards

46:32 ↗ to Safety and Security

46:34 ↗ of the transportation plan

46:36 ↗ because Safety and Security Securities

46:40 ↗ and we would be reliability this is

46:42 ↗ going to work

46:44 ↗ so is there dollars of Investments we

46:47 ↗ can do to make sure that it works and to

46:49 ↗ me that would be kind of a small

46:50 ↗ investment the next size investment

46:53 ↗ would be to

46:54 ↗ build it out

46:56 ↗ the reliability maybe you need

46:59 ↗ um

47:00 ↗ reliable response times

47:03 ↗ might be more of a capital investment to

47:06 ↗ build things to get the response times

47:09 ↗ Q Jones an extra land of intersections

47:11 ↗ the vehicles could go around other

47:13 ↗ vehicles that might be parked at an

47:14 ↗ intersection

47:15 ↗ like that which would be more of an

47:17 ↗ investment to make sure the items

47:21 ↗ the first part the technology as far as

47:26 ↗ you know with the reliability and

47:30 ↗ keep from a safety from a periodic

47:37 ↗ yeah I think when I was looking at this

47:39 ↗ remote Project based thing I I think we

47:42 ↗ should be focusing on like making sure

47:45 ↗ that we do improve that reliability

47:48 ↗ aspect Ive of our Network

47:51 ↗ I'm gonna build on what we have

47:55 ↗ so if I were pushed though

47:57 ↗ um

47:58 ↗ knowing how long it's going to take me

48:00 ↗ to get

48:01 ↗ to downtown or to the airport or

48:03 ↗ something like that

48:04 ↗ um

48:05 ↗ for my convenience

48:08 ↗ I'm not sure I would weigh that

48:10 ↗ reliability at the same level I would

48:12 ↗ the reliability of information that

48:14 ↗ makes sure that there's not uh conflicts

48:17 ↗ with the information

48:23 ↗ right but

48:25 ↗ we were writing some meta comments and

48:28 ↗ I'm saying

48:29 ↗ um

48:29 ↗ I wouldn't apply the reliability to

48:31 ↗ every one of those things

48:34 ↗ so you I thought you were talking about

48:36 ↗ languages and the goal of

48:39 ↗ so reliability to me seems

48:42 ↗ like it's really really important for

48:45 ↗ safety

48:47 ↗ and for emergency unless in the

48:50 ↗ reliability of the system that tells me

48:54 ↗ um the uh

48:59 ↗ what are we uh saying how did you

49:01 ↗ describe that optimize real-time

49:03 ↗ information about

49:05 ↗ travel time which is of course that's an

49:08 ↗ under efficiency but

49:10 ↗ I'm gonna have to look at them I guess

49:12 ↗ you're right I guess we're talking about

49:13 ↗ liability and it's related to safety

49:16 ↗ that's I was looking at it is

49:18 ↗ about the emergency vehicles emergency

49:20 ↗ response time so

49:22 ↗ um

49:25 ↗ usually when they build a fire station

49:26 ↗ or police station there's a response

49:28 ↗ time they have to be within 10 minutes

49:30 ↗ of wherever that location they need to

49:33 ↗ get to so if there's traffic or we

49:37 ↗ develop more and they're not good to me

49:40 ↗ and they're 12 minutes we use technology

49:43 ↗ to bypass the intersection bypass

49:45 ↗ traffic

49:46 ↗ so they maintain that 10-minute response

49:48 ↗ time

49:51 ↗ without having to build additional

49:53 ↗ emergency

49:54 ↗ ambulance or fire stations the way that

49:58 ↗ we can use technology to get them to

49:59 ↗ where they need to go so we can still do

50:01 ↗ with the 19 minutes

50:02 ↗ range

50:06 ↗ um I wanted to highlight this comment

50:09 ↗ that we got a week ago

50:12 ↗ about sr900 and this kind of ties into

50:15 ↗ the

50:16 ↗ support redundant that works I guess

50:19 ↗ I'll go further into the other gold

50:22 ↗ particularly for

50:24 ↗ Gulf War however it is

50:27 ↗ um

50:27 ↗ typical five but could we could you

50:32 ↗ address this public comment that we got

50:33 ↗ last week about

50:35 ↗ um

50:38 ↗ watch not

51:15 ↗ is a big

51:18 ↗ portion of the

51:19 ↗ City's traffic

51:22 ↗ yes it was the comment was

51:25 ↗ um related to that wash Dot would

51:28 ↗ cooperate in allowing state-controlled

51:30 ↗ lies to be manageable with our system

51:33 ↗ and the thought was for

51:36 ↗ sr90 and that commonly specific in areas

51:41 ↗ which is something that we could address

51:43 ↗ when

51:45 ↗ we start uh proposing the projects or

51:49 ↗ strategies

51:50 ↗ let's watch that usually controls

51:52 ↗ everything 300 feet of the intersection

51:55 ↗ and part of that is make sure it doesn't

51:57 ↗ back up on the freeway system

52:00 ↗ so

52:04 ↗ usually when cities like when they have

52:06 ↗ HOV maps that they choose vram starts on

52:09 ↗ ramp start backing up too much then

52:10 ↗ they'll jump that cue get a lot more

52:12 ↗ vehicles on to pretty much if you don't

52:14 ↗ back up the city so there are some

52:16 ↗ things that they follow

52:19 ↗ um

52:21 ↗ as far as relinquishing absolute control

52:24 ↗ of control in the freeway system

52:27 ↗ I mean optimal the purpose of the

52:29 ↗ license for free rate would be to keep

52:31 ↗ the freeway free home and not that

52:33 ↗ vehicles

52:37 ↗ um

52:38 ↗ but I think it could be hard for the car

52:41 ↗ stop to give up in relationship control

52:42 ↗ of those lights at the intersection for

52:44 ↗ the city traffic flow

52:47 ↗ better than my impact the hybrid system

52:49 ↗ correct

52:53 ↗ although if there were

52:56 ↗ probably do some regrets if there were

52:58 ↗ an emergency like an evacuation or

52:59 ↗ something like that that there would be

53:01 ↗ a protocol that you could say that

53:03 ↗ number two and taking those advice for a

53:06 ↗ time to clear out this emergency

53:08 ↗ situation again

53:10 ↗ and that way they'd be another way too

53:13 ↗ to work with their traffic management

53:15 ↗ system to

53:16 ↗ control they would probably license

53:18 ↗ traffic Management Center but

53:20 ↗ to

53:29 ↗ turn everything through

53:31 ↗ to clear out and everything

53:36 ↗ um and I'm not sure

53:38 ↗ I was

53:40 ↗ based on the aggressive but I've done

53:41 ↗ with lunch time if that was kind of but

53:42 ↗ there's something you were asking about

53:45 ↗ having control of the lights

53:47 ↗ I think that she just has that paper the

53:50 ↗ public commentary

53:55 ↗ so uh

53:57 ↗ I'm supposed to be Charities meeting

53:59 ↗ running this meeting and I'm I'm I'm I

54:02 ↗ guess I'm just a little bit

54:05 ↗ unclear as to how we can best

54:10 ↗ advise as an advisory committee when

54:13 ↗ what we're saying is that we think

54:17 ↗ these are the what we think

54:20 ↗ are the best objectives to meet these

54:23 ↗ goals which I always have trouble with

54:25 ↗ that language because goals and

54:26 ↗ objectives to me are the same goals and

54:28 ↗ strategies and tactics are different but

54:30 ↗ I understand that's

54:33 ↗ so I know that goal number one is

54:36 ↗ improved safety and underneath it is all

54:39 ↗ what we're calling objectives so and

54:42 ↗ you're talking about objectives as being

54:43 ↗ a way to achieve the goal and I think

54:46 ↗ that um

54:48 ↗ the Nuance between these is is I just

54:52 ↗ don't think this is where I'm not sure

54:54 ↗ how to best use this group

54:58 ↗ um since we don't have all of the

55:02 ↗ knowledge to know like what these

55:05 ↗ different subtleties between the

55:07 ↗ different ones would impact the choices

55:09 ↗ further Downstream I think

55:12 ↗ um that because we're saying improve

55:14 ↗ emergency response times is important

55:17 ↗ and we're saying we want to have our

55:18 ↗ crank in it too because we want to say

55:20 ↗ coordinating evacuation strategies and

55:22 ↗ emergency responses with other agencies

55:25 ↗ well if you improve response I mean

55:27 ↗ we're just we're

55:28 ↗ gravitating towards just lumping those

55:30 ↗ together and I'm not sure how to be most

55:32 ↗ useful to either

55:35 ↗ um

55:36 ↗ the mobility infrastructure committee

55:38 ↗ that's going to talk about this on

55:39 ↗ November 8th presumably or to you as a

55:42 ↗ staff because I think we we're just

55:46 ↗ saying they're

55:48 ↗ if we let them together then we have our

55:50 ↗ top three and I don't think that's that

55:52 ↗ useful so I guess I'll turn it back to

55:55 ↗ if anybody

55:56 ↗ has another way of describing this that

55:58 ↗ you think that can get us unstuck here

56:00 ↗ I'm open to it or if you have another

56:02 ↗ way to get us unstuck but I feel like

56:05 ↗ we're just going to categorize them and

56:07 ↗ give you three that we're just going to

56:08 ↗ consolidate them right a lesson is how

56:12 ↗ these were

56:14 ↗ well that's the other yeah I've got

56:17 ↗ several I was gonna add a little help if

56:19 ↗ we try I know Jerry you have mentioned

56:22 ↗ like this could be

56:25 ↗ root into three different objectives or

56:29 ↗ kind of second find the language that

56:31 ↗ wouldn't help if we try to get those

56:35 ↗ three

56:37 ↗ um

56:38 ↗ and I don't and I wouldn't like to put

56:40 ↗ the words for you uh but

56:43 ↗ um

56:44 ↗ with these three

56:48 ↗ objectives or kind of groups that you

56:50 ↗ have to mentioned before we reduce them

56:53 ↗ to three objectives but then oh Cynthia

56:57 ↗ was saying that she wasn't sure what

56:59 ↗ that was really going to help you

57:02 ↗ right if we did reduce them to three

57:06 ↗ then it's just a matter of ranking them

57:08 ↗ right and then with we're condensing

57:11 ↗ like what falls off

57:13 ↗ then like is that whatever falls off is

57:15 ↗ it important or is it

57:17 ↗ okay that it falls off I think we're

57:20 ↗ having trouble understanding the

57:22 ↗ implications of the Nuance between them

57:24 ↗ and I wonder if either of those ideas

57:26 ↗ were put down

57:28 ↗ and effort to say okay well from our

57:30 ↗ opinion

57:33 ↗ we look at things like this and put down

57:34 ↗ these kind of relate to each other and

57:36 ↗ these are the 150. all right similar and

57:39 ↗ so we come up with maybe four of them to

57:41 ↗ combine them and so we might break them

57:43 ↗ like this is what we think effectively

57:45 ↗ is apart from one two three four

57:50 ↗ I don't really agree with the

57:53 ↗ consolidation

57:55 ↗ idea I mean I would like to have more of

57:58 ↗ that

57:59 ↗ the trade-offs that you were talking

58:00 ↗ about earlier and that'd be more of a

58:03 ↗ specific idea about

58:05 ↗ what each of these objectives looks like

58:08 ↗ in the real world like

58:11 ↗ if you were to bring up an example

58:13 ↗ project or something like that

58:16 ↗ first a blueprint of a project or

58:19 ↗ something like that and just talking

58:21 ↗ about you know what does

58:23 ↗ reduce crashes affect with all people

58:25 ↗ and then versus reduce the conflict

58:27 ↗ between people using different modes of

58:28 ↗ transportation

58:30 ↗ foreign

58:34 ↗ the implications of the Nuance between

58:37 ↗ them I think so I think we could do this

58:39 ↗ exercise

58:41 ↗ sure I think it would just gloss over

58:43 ↗ and leave them just as

58:45 ↗ puzzle of what

58:47 ↗ like it it's not going to address I get

58:50 ↗ I bet there's meaning behind these that

58:52 ↗ is just a little bit unclear to us yes

58:57 ↗ providing examples of the projects

59:00 ↗ that's actually the way

59:01 ↗ um

59:03 ↗ we actually want to go through the

59:05 ↗ objectives first so we can

59:08 ↗ provide projects or strategies to go

59:11 ↗ through the objectives

59:13 ↗ well

59:15 ↗ it's not like a host project that was

59:18 ↗ more like a blueprint like help us

59:21 ↗ understand the difference between number

59:23 ↗ one and number four

59:28 ↗ yes yeah

59:32 ↗ Oh you mean um

59:37 ↗ objective one and objective four okay

59:39 ↗ now for the objective one is reducing

59:43 ↗ the crashes

59:44 ↗ we are mentioning the the results of the

59:48 ↗ question the number of crashes it will

59:50 ↗ be reducing the number of crashes for

59:53 ↗ this for the number or is reducing the

59:56 ↗ conflicts between the people using using

1:00:00 ↗ different walls of Transportation should

1:00:02 ↗ be barrier shiny separation of curves or

1:00:05 ↗ something like that so what's the

1:00:06 ↗ difference

1:00:09 ↗ but wouldn't that be a similar objective

1:00:12 ↗ so one would be like the major objective

1:00:15 ↗ we'd want to reduce crashes impacting

1:00:19 ↗ all people and so then four would be a

1:00:23 ↗ way to do one reduce the conflict

1:00:26 ↗ between people using different modes of

1:00:29 ↗ transportation but the

1:00:32 ↗ the objective is to reduce crashes and

1:00:35 ↗ people say you can I can see the

1:00:38 ↗ difference between two of them those

1:00:40 ↗ reduced crashes with everybody

1:00:44 ↗ to the job and not hit somebody and so

1:00:47 ↗ if you reduce the complex and you say

1:00:49 ↗ Okay cards you're gonna be here you're

1:00:51 ↗ gonna be here you're separated so

1:00:53 ↗ there's no way you come so you can do

1:00:55 ↗ the best and I mean listen

1:00:57 ↗ um

1:01:02 ↗ what would the technology look like

1:01:05 ↗ like reducing crashes versus reducing

1:01:09 ↗ that's something

1:01:11 ↗ yes

1:01:13 ↗ for the reducing the crashes

1:01:18 ↗ up to the weather specific example

1:01:24 ↗ I'll start with I'll think it'll be

1:01:26 ↗ easier for me to start with the

1:01:28 ↗ conflicts um

1:01:30 ↗ back when we were presented the ideas in

1:01:33 ↗ April uh some of one of the examples

1:01:37 ↗ that we provided was a tool to

1:01:42 ↗ measure the pose

1:01:46 ↗ those calls kind of pleasure better and

1:01:49 ↗ those are these points of conflict that

1:01:52 ↗ was an example of um of a platform that

1:01:55 ↗ would be used to that uh we mentioned

1:01:58 ↗ that there will be at the city of

1:01:59 ↗ Philippines Seattle are are already

1:02:03 ↗ testing that those

1:02:07 ↗ uh those Technologies

1:02:09 ↗ with reducing crashes that would be

1:02:12 ↗ something specific if there if there's a

1:02:15 ↗ specific craft that is occurring due to

1:02:19 ↗ The Pedestrian The Pedestrian conflict

1:02:23 ↗ with the vehicular conflict let's say

1:02:25 ↗ the

1:02:26 ↗ but this is

1:02:28 ↗ noise technology but if we get to

1:02:31 ↗ specifics there's

1:02:34 ↗ a pedestrian

1:02:37 ↗ and non-protected pedestrian signal that

1:02:40 ↗ has a signal and then there's a conflict

1:02:42 ↗ with the vehicle and we decide to

1:02:45 ↗ provide a technology to that signal that

1:02:49 ↗ would

1:02:50 ↗ provide the ability of having them both

1:02:53 ↗ separated okay

1:02:55 ↗ or protected that might not be as much

1:02:58 ↗ its uh uh like really uh much

1:03:03 ↗ intelligent but it's a way in which we

1:03:06 ↗ can provide specific technology to

1:03:08 ↗ address

1:03:09 ↗ um a particular type of process

1:03:16 ↗ foreign

1:03:40 ↗ well I'm I'm not sure we've

1:03:43 ↗ provided any useful information and

1:03:46 ↗ number one yet

1:03:47 ↗ um can't throw going through a good

1:03:49 ↗ money after bad but uh on the other hand

1:03:52 ↗ on a stranded investment here so I mean

1:03:55 ↗ maybe one question for us would be it's

1:03:58 ↗ hard for me to imagine how you couldn't

1:04:00 ↗ reduce the conflict

1:04:01 ↗ without reducing crashes but I could see

1:04:04 ↗ how if you get really into it you could

1:04:07 ↗ decide that conflict is different than

1:04:10 ↗ crashes

1:04:12 ↗ does everyone think that reducing

1:04:13 ↗ conflict

1:04:15 ↗ is the most important

1:04:16 ↗ thing where these Greeks and crashes it

1:04:19 ↗ reducing crashes well it's more

1:04:22 ↗ important

1:04:26 ↗ it's important

1:04:28 ↗ [Music]

1:04:32 ↗ keep people safe and so if they're going

1:04:36 ↗ to get into

1:04:38 ↗ a crash situation you you want to

1:04:42 ↗ prevent that so that that's a key

1:04:44 ↗ objective reduce

1:04:47 ↗ crashes because you don't want people

1:04:51 ↗ being injured

1:04:52 ↗ it's like I see crashes to me as a like

1:04:55 ↗ that's up to including a fatality and

1:04:58 ↗ conflict between does not connotate a

1:05:01 ↗ fatality it might be you know it's like

1:05:03 ↗ it but like nobody's

1:05:06 ↗ maybe up to like an injury but not death

1:05:09 ↗ that's just how I'm picturing it in my

1:05:11 ↗ mind that might not be what it means but

1:05:13 ↗ so for me if like

1:05:15 ↗ that's gonna have only crashes then

1:05:18 ↗ from what Isabella was explaining about

1:05:20 ↗ the you know like the specific

1:05:22 ↗ technology

1:05:23 ↗ you know we're talking about technology

1:05:26 ↗ dollars going into that projects it did

1:05:30 ↗ seem like reducing the conflict

1:05:32 ↗ the Upstream thing that we have to do

1:05:35 ↗ didn't seem to have more

1:05:37 ↗ technology-centered idea there crashes

1:05:40 ↗ seems to have more of a

1:05:42 ↗ hard infrastructure kind of idea so

1:05:45 ↗ we're talking about putting much into

1:05:48 ↗ the accounting project and you can have

1:05:50 ↗ flashing you know you have a pedestrian

1:05:52 ↗ and they hit the button and it flashes

1:05:54 ↗ in five ways to Sunday like that's right

1:06:02 ↗ so so you're trying to keep people safe

1:06:06 ↗ yeah

1:06:11 ↗ but later and no left turn and

1:06:14 ↗ people still start trying to run it when

1:06:16 ↗ we're there their bike's trying to go

1:06:18 ↗ through

1:06:19 ↗ yeah yeah there's a fatality there was

1:06:22 ↗ there's been multiple

1:06:24 ↗ yeah so there's a Congress to come from

1:06:28 ↗ it so for example that intersection

1:06:31 ↗ I hope you do produce a crash versus how

1:06:33 ↗ would you reduce conflict might be if

1:06:36 ↗ you put a railroad gate down okay you

1:06:38 ↗ can't take left turn that's a good

1:06:40 ↗ reduced to conflict

1:06:42 ↗ problems producing crash sets on the

1:06:45 ↗ public because of meat market confusion

1:06:47 ↗ as far as this question is too big of a

1:06:50 ↗ broad spectrum of what it is as opposed

1:06:52 ↗ to a conflict it's a little bit more

1:06:53 ↗ definable that's true

1:06:55 ↗ I think

1:06:57 ↗ it might make you reduce crashes

1:07:01 ↗ yeah not so good

1:07:03 ↗ um I mean I'm just trying to we all have

1:07:06 ↗ a lot of a lot of good

1:07:09 ↗ um you know we've all studied this

1:07:11 ↗ material we all have familiar with what

1:07:13 ↗ we're trying to accomplish here and

1:07:15 ↗ we're trying to

1:07:16 ↗ squeeze out of this group something

1:07:18 ↗ that's going to be useful and I'm really

1:07:20 ↗ struggling

1:07:21 ↗ um

1:07:22 ↗ and so I I don't know

1:07:27 ↗ I mean we could talk for an hour about

1:07:30 ↗ the difference between crash into

1:07:31 ↗ conflict and I'm not sure we would get

1:07:33 ↗ anywhere

1:07:35 ↗ um

1:07:36 ↗ and so uh

1:07:39 ↗ I guess maybe we should talk about

1:07:41 ↗ whether we think this

1:07:44 ↗ I mean if we put them into buckets one

1:07:46 ↗ one is

1:07:48 ↗ you know safety on a day-to-day basis

1:07:50 ↗ and the other is emergency or do we have

1:07:52 ↗ to choose between those I mean I I just

1:07:55 ↗ so if we were to edit all these if we

1:07:58 ↗ were to pick one of them

1:08:00 ↗ that's a good idea what would over the

1:08:03 ↗ top one and then maybe I was thinking

1:08:05 ↗ you know every alligating time okay we

1:08:07 ↗ spend the time this let's go two three

1:08:09 ↗ and one five to six and something might

1:08:11 ↗ spark an idea I'll come back yeah

1:08:14 ↗ if you just pick one

1:08:15 ↗ maybe we can start with that one with

1:08:17 ↗ the Bridge cards

1:08:20 ↗ I think we might get further by picking

1:08:22 ↗ one

1:08:23 ↗ I think that would be really telling

1:08:26 ↗ why don't we try this every takes 30

1:08:28 ↗ seconds and pick the first one

1:08:36 ↗ for all of them are just the first one

1:08:38 ↗ just number one yeah okay I'm not gonna

1:08:41 ↗ kill ourselves it's already 7 20. oh no

1:08:44 ↗ combining just pick one no combining

1:08:46 ↗ security

1:09:14 ↗ all right okay

1:09:16 ↗ who wants to go first

1:09:20 ↗ I don't want to go first to me it's uh

1:09:23 ↗ to maintain it and improve emergency

1:09:25 ↗ response times

1:09:30 ↗ for me it's probably increment and

1:09:33 ↗ maintain

1:09:34 ↗ related technology and strategies and

1:09:36 ↗ practically work to prevent sins from

1:09:39 ↗ occurring

1:09:41 ↗ producing crashes again

1:09:45 ↗ you're never the first one yes and I'm

1:09:47 ↗ going with

1:09:49 ↗ British crashes

1:09:53 ↗ uh

1:09:55 ↗ I was gonna go with

1:09:58 ↗ um the Upstream

1:10:00 ↗ that Julie mentioned

1:10:01 ↗ um to prevent independence from

1:10:03 ↗ occurring only because I think in my

1:10:07 ↗ humble I mean in my own

1:10:09 ↗ my neighbors opinion I think

1:10:12 ↗ it seems like a technology something

1:10:14 ↗ technology can do to be more upstream

1:10:17 ↗ and that the infrastructure might be

1:10:19 ↗ more crash related but at least we've

1:10:22 ↗ got now we kind of do ever top three

1:10:25 ↗ if we're going to stick to the

1:10:27 ↗ assignment

1:10:28 ↗ so we have our top three but we have

1:10:32 ↗ obviously struggled with not

1:10:34 ↗ understanding the implications of the

1:10:36 ↗ Nuance between

1:10:37 ↗ so let's go to number two I'm sorry do

1:10:41 ↗ we have anything else to say about

1:10:42 ↗ number one or do we want to go to number

1:10:44 ↗ two and just pick our first one and see

1:10:46 ↗ how that how that goes as far as an

1:10:47 ↗ exercise I feel like we're still

1:10:49 ↗ learning and my head is still exploding

1:10:50 ↗ how can we learn so much we'd still be

1:10:52 ↗ that's this this is kind of stuff it

1:10:55 ↗ still be so hard

1:10:56 ↗ um and we just why don't we just choose

1:10:58 ↗ our top one that's what I'm saying that

1:11:00 ↗ might be more informative and more

1:11:02 ↗ useful

1:11:03 ↗ okay yeah and then and no come on

1:11:07 ↗ okay even though let's acknowledge that

1:11:10 ↗ they do feel to us like

1:11:58 ↗ foreign

1:12:01 ↗ I went last last time so I'll go first

1:12:04 ↗ this time you guys ready yes okay I'm

1:12:06 ↗ gonna go with one that I didn't even

1:12:08 ↗ pick the last time but I if I have to

1:12:10 ↗ pick one I'm gonna

1:12:12 ↗ say number two incorporate emerging

1:12:14 ↗ transportation technology and

1:12:15 ↗ prioritizing people safety and Community

1:12:17 ↗ benefit because it's a technology

1:12:20 ↗ project so I think the idea of

1:12:22 ↗ supporting and working on emerging

1:12:24 ↗ Technologies let's just go let's go all

1:12:27 ↗ in and

1:12:33 ↗ um I'm reading these and I've kind of

1:12:36 ↗ used the same words writing reports on

1:12:37 ↗ them thank you for make my concerns like

1:12:40 ↗ after my travel time enhancements

1:12:44 ↗ where's no reports

1:12:46 ↗ if I look at the efficiency of the

1:12:47 ↗ transportation system

1:12:49 ↗ I would go for a reduced environmental

1:12:51 ↗ impacts caused by advising Vehicles

1:12:52 ↗ emerging Ultra advisors transportation

1:12:58 ↗ I chose anticipate and plan for future

1:13:00 ↗ growth but Cynthia the one that you

1:13:02 ↗ chose was very very close-up to begin a

1:13:06 ↗ lot of a lot of the same things I know

1:13:07 ↗ we're not supposed to condense um for me

1:13:10 ↗ the m p is just you know the North Star

1:13:12 ↗ and so and I think this

1:13:15 ↗ encapsulates

1:13:17 ↗ the goals again

1:13:24 ↗ Jerry

1:13:27 ↗ okay I chose to prioritize Transit

1:13:30 ↗ friendly projects that provide safety

1:13:32 ↗ and accessibility and convenience for

1:13:34 ↗ all commuters to accommodate

1:13:37 ↗ foreign

1:13:43 ↗ I think it's probably because I'm very

1:13:48 ↗ Transit oriented

1:13:50 ↗ maybe and

1:13:52 ↗ and

1:13:54 ↗ if we prioritize Transit friendly

1:13:57 ↗ projects I was thinking we would be

1:14:00 ↗ optimizing

1:14:02 ↗ the use of we would be alleviating

1:14:05 ↗ congestion and we'd be optimizing

1:14:08 ↗ for the use of

1:14:10 ↗ our transportation Network

1:14:12 ↗ so that's why I chose that

1:14:16 ↗ that

1:14:16 ↗ person offense but unfortunately but um

1:14:20 ↗ yeah I would say privatized

1:14:22 ↗ trans-failing projects yet at the same

1:14:24 ↗ time it would again depend on

1:14:27 ↗ how much that is technology focused

1:14:30 ↗ because we are looking at technology

1:14:31 ↗ projects and so

1:14:34 ↗ on and hear more from that and but

1:14:38 ↗ generally you know since this is

1:14:39 ↗ technology focused Incorporated

1:14:41 ↗ merchanting and facial Technologies

1:14:45 ↗ which are not going to

1:14:49 ↗ induce

1:14:50 ↗ carb demand

1:14:57 ↗ yes for the transit friendly sorry which

1:15:01 ↗ which one

1:15:05 ↗ as long as these emerging

1:15:10 ↗ are

1:15:14 ↗ uh in that perspective then I would

1:15:18 ↗ definitely support incorporating those

1:15:20 ↗ emerging Technologies

1:15:23 ↗ but

1:15:24 ↗ it kind of what kind of Transit friendly

1:15:27 ↗ projects are we talking about in the

1:15:30 ↗ technology but it's not part of the

1:15:31 ↗ structure and the transit priority we

1:15:34 ↗ don't have that in the city yeah just on

1:15:37 ↗ signals the prioritization of transit

1:15:40 ↗ buses so that is one

1:15:44 ↗ really

1:15:50 ↗ really like when you take the bus and

1:15:51 ↗ you get off

1:15:53 ↗ freeway there's a

1:15:56 ↗ right in the right lane to get a job

1:15:59 ↗ so or like the right light between green

1:16:02 ↗ is the best surprise

1:16:07 ↗ Transit friendly projects that provide

1:16:09 ↗ safety accessibility and convenience for

1:16:11 ↗ all commuters and accommodates lower

1:16:12 ↗ income communities that would be an

1:16:14 ↗ example of the light turning green

1:16:16 ↗ four buses is that the one that goes in

1:16:19 ↗ yes oh then I change

1:16:23 ↗ to that really I heard that

1:16:29 ↗ was preemption yeah

1:16:34 ↗ yeah that's preemption in that case yeah

1:16:36 ↗ it's definitely

1:16:37 ↗ like four people change their vote

1:16:40 ↗ well I'd like to incorporate emergency

1:16:43 ↗ transportation Technologies too because

1:16:46 ↗ that seemed to be all uncompassing

1:16:49 ↗ uh approving efficiency of the

1:16:52 ↗ transportation system so I was thinking

1:16:56 ↗ um just

1:16:58 ↗ prioritizing Transit isn't what we

1:17:00 ↗ should be doing we should be

1:17:02 ↗ prioritizing all modes

1:17:06 ↗ I think this brings up a really good

1:17:07 ↗ point that's been bugging me a little

1:17:09 ↗ bit and it kind of relates to what you

1:17:11 ↗ just I should say bugging me but it's in

1:17:12 ↗ the back of my mind and that is that for

1:17:15 ↗ its this is a thing I wrote When I Was

1:17:17 ↗ preparing for this meeting are we

1:17:22 ↗ um

1:17:23 ↗ are we opposed to projects even though

1:17:26 ↗ our nmps are North Star and even though

1:17:28 ↗ our m p prioritizes multimodal

1:17:32 ↗ um

1:17:32 ↗ do we feel comfortable

1:17:35 ↗ investing in IT projects that do help

1:17:41 ↗ vehicular traffic not as our overall all

1:17:45 ↗ of our dollars and all of our planning

1:17:46 ↗ and all of the investments in

1:17:48 ↗ transportation for the City of Issaquah

1:17:50 ↗ but just for the its system

1:17:54 ↗ or do we really want the is there like

1:17:57 ↗ an overarching recommendation from this

1:17:59 ↗ body that says when you're thinking

1:18:01 ↗ about its and

1:18:04 ↗ Advanced Technologies and emerging

1:18:06 ↗ technology do we really want to optimize

1:18:08 ↗ them towards our biggest priorities or

1:18:10 ↗ do we want to optimize them towards that

1:18:12 ↗ which

1:18:13 ↗ intelligence to you know in data and so

1:18:16 ↗ forth tend to be good at

1:18:18 ↗ um and I think that

1:18:20 ↗ yeah so I I think that's kind of an

1:18:22 ↗ overarching thing that kind of can drive

1:18:24 ↗ this like if there's something that

1:18:26 ↗ technology is particularly good at

1:18:28 ↗ within our list of goals do we want to

1:18:30 ↗ do something really well and just be

1:18:32 ↗ really targeted or are are we feeling

1:18:35 ↗ like we want to pick technologies that

1:18:37 ↗ are going to be hit as many of our goals

1:18:39 ↗ as possible what if it hits only one or

1:18:41 ↗ two of them but it does a great job at

1:18:43 ↗ that

1:18:47 ↗ even if we all go to electric vehicles

1:18:49 ↗ exactly so I'm not sure if anybody else

1:18:53 ↗ would ever finds US person at an

1:18:54 ↗ intersection but not going anywhere like

1:18:59 ↗ why isn't anybody gone because the

1:19:00 ↗ lights are going through the cycle to me

1:19:02 ↗ that's a point where technology can say

1:19:05 ↗ and we can do it now today like no

1:19:07 ↗ moving no one's in that line okay so we

1:19:09 ↗ can turn that red and turn this one

1:19:12 ↗ green like ingredients are leading green

1:19:14 ↗ light too which is more efficient and so

1:19:16 ↗ it could be your real time evaluation of

1:19:18 ↗ the ethical pre-program like it's always

1:19:19 ↗ going to be a dating free which means if

1:19:21 ↗ we left turn goes first a legging green

1:19:24 ↗ is where the turn is held for some

1:19:26 ↗ length of time through vehicles

1:19:29 ↗ so we could say we'll put on the left

1:19:31 ↗ turn I'm not going to delete and so we

1:19:32 ↗ use the technology to get cars through

1:19:35 ↗ intersections and through points to meet

1:19:37 ↗ up with your age that's where why I

1:19:41 ↗ chose to reduce environment next because

1:19:42 ↗ sitting there highly creating pollution

1:19:44 ↗ because the campgrounds where this

1:19:46 ↗ license

1:19:50 ↗ flow through you're reducing uh

1:20:01 ↗ really no I think what you are referring

1:20:04 ↗ to is the signal the Adaptive signal

1:20:07 ↗ system and we don't have that yeah

1:20:13 ↗ okay like if we use this for

1:20:17 ↗ the bus gets to jump you

1:20:19 ↗ know and that then now it improves our

1:20:21 ↗ trip full of transit system locally

1:20:24 ↗ ideally you know more people will see

1:20:27 ↗ that notice somebody makes the news

1:20:28 ↗ whatever and people like oh well

1:20:30 ↗ actually I will like if that's you know

1:20:32 ↗ Ben and I got another problem of people

1:20:34 ↗ aren't taking public transportation

1:20:34 ↗ because not living as fast as they

1:20:36 ↗ needed to to get to where they want to

1:20:37 ↗ go but suddenly if it is is that not an

1:20:40 ↗ incentive

1:20:41 ↗ so

1:20:43 ↗ when we're talking about for example I

1:20:45 ↗ started 900

1:20:47 ↗ and during the eight o'clock eight

1:20:50 ↗ o'clock rush so

1:20:52 ↗ you know less we have all the cars

1:20:55 ↗ bunched up just in their General lanes

1:20:58 ↗ and then if you enabled that bus you

1:21:01 ↗ know the cue jumping lights or the buses

1:21:03 ↗ and for carpools you know it's going to

1:21:06 ↗ incentivize to that form of my location

1:21:08 ↗ of course and just make it easier for

1:21:11 ↗ everyone

1:21:12 ↗ and so that's kind of the focus on the

1:21:14 ↗ corporate world comes from so

1:21:16 ↗ if you enhance the ability for

1:21:19 ↗ that kind of mass transformation that

1:21:21 ↗ means there will be or a shift every

1:21:24 ↗ time you make it easier to get around in

1:21:26 ↗ general

1:21:27 ↗ so that's what I think our our

1:21:29 ↗ Technology Solutions before it supports

1:21:32 ↗ but of course it would be nice to uh

1:21:36 ↗ yeah

1:21:43 ↗ yeah of course but I think our

1:21:46 ↗ investments should be going you know

1:21:48 ↗ towards cancer that ability to be able

1:21:51 ↗ to get off here

1:21:55 ↗ so do you think we met the assignment I

1:21:56 ↗ think we picked a top three by just what

1:21:59 ↗ everyone's reading their top one and a

1:22:00 ↗ couple people had one and a half so I

1:22:03 ↗ think it and now I I don't think we've

1:22:05 ↗ answered or gotten any consensus on

1:22:07 ↗ whether we want to use its generally

1:22:10 ↗ about to

1:22:11 ↗ um

1:22:12 ↗ whatever it's best at like turning the

1:22:16 ↗ light at 10 o'clock at night when I'm in

1:22:18 ↗ my car by myself if that's really a good

1:22:20 ↗ use of Technology then should we be

1:22:21 ↗ doing it regardless of how it Stacks up

1:22:24 ↗ against our priorities and I'd like to

1:22:25 ↗ maybe table that for a minute

1:22:27 ↗ um and go through and do what we

1:22:31 ↗ are still taking too long but we did a

1:22:32 ↗ lot better on gold too so maybe we could

1:22:34 ↗ try goal three if nobody objects to

1:22:36 ↗ moving on

1:22:38 ↗ um because we did by going and picking

1:22:40 ↗ one we've given you a top three ish and

1:22:44 ↗ then some insight as to why we think

1:22:45 ↗ that

1:22:46 ↗ and Isabella you're writing these down

1:22:49 ↗ it's also being recorded yes oh yeah

1:22:52 ↗ I'll go through recording as well

1:22:55 ↗ okay

1:22:56 ↗ so yeah

1:22:59 ↗ I've been scrolling them too but I think

1:23:01 ↗ the recording is more reliable

1:23:02 ↗ especially if we speak clearly so I

1:23:05 ↗ propose to go into goal three and take

1:23:07 ↗ 30 seconds and pick your number one

1:23:28 ↗ okay

1:23:35 ↗ uh Tony you want to start are you ready

1:23:40 ↗ another 30 seconds okay

1:23:52 ↗ okay cool I think I would stay with one

1:23:55 ↗ of the ones that I had my career which

1:23:57 ↗ is provided real-time traveler

1:23:58 ↗ information for all people using the

1:24:00 ↗ transportation system

1:24:07 ↗ my original one which is integrated City

1:24:10 ↗ development information updates into

1:24:11 ↗ major routing providers this is working

1:24:13 ↗ back to the survey which I know like you

1:24:15 ↗ should put a big caveat on that but uh

1:24:18 ↗ if that people identified that like one

1:24:20 ↗ of the main things they use for the

1:24:21 ↗ Google Maps ways Etc and so I see this

1:24:24 ↗ as plugging into that

1:24:27 ↗ response

1:24:28 ↗ a close second was the first one the

1:24:31 ↗ adapting on my information to variety of

1:24:32 ↗ media because I see those two as a very

1:24:34 ↗ recently

1:24:39 ↗ temperature Jerry

1:24:41 ↗ um I was going with support centralized

1:24:44 ↗ systems that provide the following local

1:24:48 ↗ traveler information Advanced that's

1:24:52 ↗ number four advancing real-time

1:24:54 ↗ information about construction

1:24:56 ↗ activities and work zones and real-time

1:24:59 ↗ incident information

1:25:04 ↗ so

1:25:07 ↗ that seemed to be more specific I

1:25:11 ↗ thought then one

1:25:15 ↗ and number one and number two

1:25:20 ↗ that's why I chose it

1:25:25 ↗ I would go with uh integrating that she

1:25:27 ↗ developed information

1:25:29 ↗ updates into the majority providers but

1:25:34 ↗ coordinate with regional agencies to

1:25:36 ↗ provide reasonable travel information

1:25:37 ↗ that is pretty compelling as well what

1:25:40 ↗ would that look like more specifically

1:25:58 ↗ agencies to provide

1:26:02 ↗ and provide free compelling

1:26:05 ↗ what would that look like

1:26:08 ↗ um

1:26:09 ↗ something I could think about uh if

1:26:14 ↗ instead of having to go through

1:26:16 ↗ different

1:26:17 ↗ sources of information like what you see

1:26:22 ↗ how lesson 900 traffic is doing of the

1:26:26 ↗ city to look at what the series

1:26:30 ↗ signals are doing so uh providing a way

1:26:35 ↗ to have everything on a specific on a

1:26:38 ↗ single

1:26:39 ↗ on a single source

1:26:42 ↗ and simply thoughts from other sources

1:26:45 ↗ but they would be presented served up to

1:26:48 ↗ escort traveler it's like having

1:26:50 ↗ everything

1:26:51 ↗ people thinking about it simply is that

1:26:54 ↗ having everything on a simple source of

1:26:56 ↗ information

1:26:57 ↗ it's like looking at Google Maps right

1:27:00 ↗ yeah

1:27:01 ↗ and

1:27:02 ↗ you get some sort of sort of travel

1:27:04 ↗ update and that tells you

1:27:06 ↗ the fastest way you can get somewhere

1:27:09 ↗ through all the different routes

1:27:14 ↗ yeah I mean I think

1:27:15 ↗ centralization

1:27:18 ↗ you know centralization ideas that are

1:27:20 ↗ in a couple of these objectives

1:27:23 ↗ it's kind of tricky because

1:27:25 ↗ I don't think a lot of people are gonna

1:27:27 ↗ be seeking out different

1:27:29 ↗ travel information metrics or data that

1:27:33 ↗ are not already what they already use in

1:27:35 ↗ Google Maps ways

1:27:38 ↗ so yeah I think that's going to make the

1:27:42 ↗ first place

1:27:44 ↗ okay so on last year that I'm going to

1:27:46 ↗ stay innovate City developed information

1:27:48 ↗ if it's in the major routing providers

1:27:49 ↗ Google ways and I think that people are

1:27:53 ↗ used to using those and if the city can

1:27:54 ↗ do something with technology to make

1:27:57 ↗ those choices better then I think that's

1:28:00 ↗ a good use of money in technology

1:28:11 ↗ we learned my first goal

1:28:14 ↗ it's very worth getting here

1:28:16 ↗ um

1:28:17 ↗ okay goal number four are we ready to

1:28:19 ↗ move

1:28:19 ↗ on okay everybody take one minute

1:28:26 ↗ the pumpkin okay number five

1:28:31 ↗ sorry on the first objective for goal

1:28:33 ↗ number four when it says existing

1:28:35 ↗ infrastructure does that mean Capital

1:28:36 ↗ infrastructure it doesn't mean

1:28:37 ↗ technology infrastructure right yes

1:28:39 ↗ that's 16 technology no oh sorry number

1:28:42 ↗ one technology yeah

1:28:44 ↗ and number two then

1:28:49 ↗ yes whenever we uh for these purposes

1:28:52 ↗ when we talk about infrastructure we're

1:28:54 ↗ talking about

1:28:55 ↗ assisting technology okay

1:29:00 ↗ the current requirement cameras

1:29:49 ↗ foreign

1:30:27 ↗ anybody else want the last of Kentucky

1:30:31 ↗ what

1:30:33 ↗ a shirt I think

1:30:35 ↗ I'm good

1:30:42 ↗ okay Jeremy let Erica go first and then

1:30:45 ↗ you're next or we'll go the other way if

1:30:46 ↗ you want are you ready you don't look

1:30:48 ↗ like you're ready oh I am oh you are

1:30:50 ↗ okay okay uh I said the floor systems

1:30:54 ↗ with the High bed cost ratio with

1:30:57 ↗ equipment to have the greatest value

1:30:59 ↗ possible because for me that the okay

1:31:02 ↗ the goal explicitly says develop and

1:31:04 ↗ deploy in some of these were I mean I

1:31:07 ↗ guess

1:31:08 ↗ they sounded more like oh and let's

1:31:10 ↗ maintain what we

1:31:11 ↗ know that's cost effective

1:31:14 ↗ but if we're

1:31:15 ↗ I guess

1:31:17 ↗ it would if

1:31:19 ↗ launching new technology versus

1:31:22 ↗ making the old to me like is

1:31:25 ↗ kind of need to answer what we're doing

1:31:27 ↗ first performance before I can

1:31:28 ↗ confidently pick this but

1:31:31 ↗ I'm going with what I said

1:31:34 ↗ yeah I I chose the same

1:31:39 ↗ option as Erica so

1:31:42 ↗ and and I was thinking oh well

1:31:46 ↗ you could do a benefit cost ratio for

1:31:48 ↗ existing systems along with new systems

1:31:51 ↗ so

1:31:52 ↗ I felt that was

1:31:55 ↗ described

1:31:57 ↗ objective

1:31:59 ↗ vote for

1:32:01 ↗ so I'm going with that one

1:32:04 ↗ thanks I would have to say deploy

1:32:06 ↗ systems are integrated with future

1:32:08 ↗ Transportation infrastructure

1:32:10 ↗ improvements because I have to be

1:32:13 ↗ consistent from my goal one talk about

1:32:17 ↗ um technology being better for Upstream

1:32:19 ↗ stuff producing conflicts

1:32:21 ↗ and so we're employing those systems we

1:32:24 ↗ have to keep an eye to the Future about

1:32:26 ↗ what's part of the structure would do to

1:32:28 ↗ reduce those crashes

1:32:31 ↗ combined with technology that reduce the

1:32:35 ↗ to prevent the crashes first place

1:32:38 ↗ so time moves together I think would be

1:32:40 ↗ good in a

1:32:43 ↗ technology project basis

1:32:46 ↗ so then was that one or two I'm sorry

1:32:48 ↗ okay

1:32:52 ↗ okay so I said

1:32:55 ↗ um deploy systems the high benefit to

1:32:57 ↗ cost ratio with so many options in so

1:33:00 ↗ many different ways to spend our i t s

1:33:03 ↗ dollars it seems like aiming at the

1:33:05 ↗ lowest hanging fruit

1:33:07 ↗ for any benefit that's on our list of

1:33:10 ↗ benefits I think would be worth pursuing

1:33:12 ↗ as we

1:33:19 ↗ but Julian does have a point in the

1:33:21 ↗ valley that's that was my that was also

1:33:23 ↗ on my list about three just for the

1:33:25 ↗ record that was all in my top three but

1:33:26 ↗ if I had to pick one

1:33:31 ↗ the hardest one I've tried about because

1:33:33 ↗ it became one of them

1:33:35 ↗ you know but I think I ended up what I

1:33:38 ↗ would say my number one would be the

1:33:39 ↗ question available its infrastructure

1:33:41 ↗ that can be maintained long term

1:33:44 ↗ I chose that one because I think it kind

1:33:47 ↗ of addresses some of the other ones that

1:33:49 ↗ I would also could have easily chosen

1:33:52 ↗ as far as usually existing systems as

1:33:53 ↗ much we can and important to other

1:33:55 ↗ cities

1:33:56 ↗ for the media it's like a cost-effective

1:33:59 ↗ its infrastructure

1:34:02 ↗ I mean any one of them could be but I

1:34:04 ↗ would not let me deploy

1:34:06 ↗ which could be used in existing as well

1:34:08 ↗ they believe me and I think the thing

1:34:10 ↗ that got me on that was something that

1:34:11 ↗ we can maintain long term so it's like

1:34:13 ↗ thinking and playing in the future

1:34:25 ↗ does anyone have anything you want to

1:34:27 ↗ add or change their mind after we got

1:34:30 ↗ aloe vera

1:34:32 ↗ right

1:34:35 ↗ ready to move on to number five

1:34:41 ↗ uh let's take a minute I think this is

1:34:44 ↗ shorter so we'll maybe

1:34:45 ↗ you don't need quite as much time

1:35:29 ↗ chair whenever you're ready go ahead and

1:35:31 ↗ start okay

1:35:32 ↗ um let's go with the last one

1:35:35 ↗ participate in collaborative

1:35:36 ↗ opportunities to align with region-wide

1:35:40 ↗ its Vision following the completion

1:35:44 ↗ of this planning

1:35:47 ↗ effort

1:35:50 ↗ so

1:35:52 ↗ if you collaborate with other agencies

1:35:58 ↗ with technology then we would be sharing

1:36:03 ↗ all your resources

1:36:05 ↗ two

1:36:07 ↗ so that makes sense

1:36:11 ↗ me

1:36:13 ↗ I think for me it'd be promoting the

1:36:16 ↗ interoperability of the systems and

1:36:19 ↗ devices to effectively manage the system

1:36:21 ↗ that's kind of a

1:36:22 ↗ specific thing that goes into

1:36:27 ↗ integrating

1:36:28 ↗ our system with the regional partners

1:36:33 ↗ so we're talking about specific

1:36:34 ↗ Investments it should be

1:36:36 ↗ towards promoting that end of the

1:36:38 ↗ probability

1:36:42 ↗ okay so I got to the word

1:36:44 ↗ interoperability and I do know what that

1:36:46 ↗ means

1:36:47 ↗ um at least some definitions of it but

1:36:49 ↗ it's when I realized that I don't have

1:36:50 ↗ enough information and this is the one

1:36:52 ↗ that I wrote the note that felt to me

1:36:54 ↗ like it this is really needs to it's

1:36:57 ↗ deferred to what staff experts

1:36:59 ↗ Consultants whatever I just don't have

1:37:01 ↗ enough information to know what we

1:37:04 ↗ should be doing and it doesn't feel

1:37:06 ↗ value driven to me it feels um

1:37:09 ↗ or strategy I feel more um it feels more

1:37:12 ↗ like

1:37:15 ↗ um you need to know a lot about all this

1:37:18 ↗ and what everyone's doing before you can

1:37:19 ↗ pick one of these is how I felt so I'm

1:37:22 ↗ going to take a pass on this

1:37:25 ↗ one yes on goal five

1:37:29 ↗ okay good for I would prefer whatever

1:37:31 ↗ the experts did

1:37:33 ↗ I did yeah

1:37:35 ↗ thrown off the interoperability

1:37:38 ↗ you know we're

1:37:40 ↗ it's all over

1:37:42 ↗ again

1:37:45 ↗ the last one does so it's between that

1:37:47 ↗ and the last one I chose the last one

1:37:48 ↗ just participate poverty even

1:37:50 ↗ opportunities to align the regional wide

1:37:52 ↗ like yes

1:37:53 ↗ but I was

1:37:55 ↗ doing a little bit following the

1:37:56 ↗ completion of this planet effort why not

1:37:58 ↗ during the we're not doing it do it

1:38:00 ↗ during it yes as opposed to okay we're

1:38:02 ↗ done what are you guys doing

1:38:04 ↗ I'm supposed to like what are you guys

1:38:06 ↗ doing okay we're gonna incorporate that

1:38:07 ↗ in that artist

1:38:08 ↗ so

1:38:10 ↗ um

1:38:11 ↗ if I could change the word uh rather

1:38:14 ↗ than doing it during the completion but

1:38:15 ↗ during the development of the code for

1:38:17 ↗ the last one

1:38:21 ↗ yeah that's a good segue into what I

1:38:22 ↗ chose was number two continue deporting

1:38:25 ↗ integrate projects with other agencies

1:38:28 ↗ um

1:38:28 ↗ because to me that seemed very similar

1:38:32 ↗ to the last one but I didn't like the

1:38:34 ↗ like like the time you know like caps I

1:38:37 ↗ guess of what the last one had and

1:38:39 ↗ versus this one is continued working

1:38:42 ↗ just right off your bat and that's why I

1:38:44 ↗ chose it because that seems so it cost

1:38:45 ↗ effective yeah

1:38:52 ↗ also I feel like this

1:38:53 ↗ one pings on our public comment of hair

1:38:57 ↗ you guys Happy reading with watch that

1:38:59 ↗ Etc that seems like it's

1:39:01 ↗ just

1:39:09 ↗ okay

1:39:10 ↗ anybody else having to add change yeah

1:39:19 ↗ interoperability oh yeah

1:39:22 ↗ yes

1:39:23 ↗ um like what what kind of investment did

1:39:26 ↗ are there like hard Investments that you

1:39:28 ↗ can think of

1:39:30 ↗ that could come from that gold from that

1:39:32 ↗ objective

1:39:37 ↗ thing I

1:39:41 ↗ shouldn't make

1:39:44 ↗ to make sure our

1:39:47 ↗ like our systems

1:39:53 ↗ kind of work together with others

1:39:57 ↗ um and to give you an example

1:40:01 ↗ um let's say we have signals so we have

1:40:05 ↗ sr900 we have a combination between

1:40:07 ↗ Watchdog and CV signals and

1:40:11 ↗ right now

1:40:13 ↗ there is no way for us to have a

1:40:16 ↗ combined system that we can

1:40:20 ↗ provide coordination between all the

1:40:23 ↗ signals because we have different

1:40:25 ↗ systems

1:40:26 ↗ um

1:40:27 ↗ if we

1:40:31 ↗ if we are kind of align our operations

1:40:34 ↗ and our

1:40:37 ↗ technology into into the same so we can

1:40:40 ↗ speak the same language we could provide

1:40:44 ↗ a better service uh from the entire

1:40:46 ↗ quality

1:40:48 ↗ and with that capital investment be

1:40:50 ↗ something like

1:40:52 ↗ getting someone to

1:40:54 ↗ put those two languages together and

1:40:57 ↗ have them communicate

1:40:58 ↗ in that way or would it be interesting

1:41:02 ↗ look like

1:41:05 ↗ I can think of different ways but

1:41:08 ↗ [Music]

1:41:08 ↗ um

1:41:09 ↗ we'll be getting more into the details

1:41:12 ↗ but uh

1:41:14 ↗ something that they'll view us has done

1:41:16 ↗ is taking over washed out signals and I

1:41:20 ↗ know that that is a conversation or a

1:41:22 ↗ point that has been brought up of other

1:41:26 ↗ or feelings

1:41:28 ↗ conversations but that's that's a way

1:41:32 ↗ where all places both

1:41:36 ↗ both systems can communicate with each

1:41:39 ↗ other than the city of Belleville took

1:41:42 ↗ over the operation of what does watch

1:41:45 ↗ the of some of the Washington signals

1:41:48 ↗ one important

1:41:49 ↗ um but that's that's not technology

1:41:52 ↗ oriented that is

1:41:54 ↗ a solution to

1:41:59 ↗ get into that interoperability

1:42:02 ↗ where to

1:42:04 ↗ keep the same like

1:42:07 ↗ what would operate theirs and ask for

1:42:11 ↗ the technology to speak the same

1:42:13 ↗ language they'll have to connect or

1:42:15 ↗ interact with you okay

1:42:19 ↗ need to be compatible with each other

1:42:26 ↗ yeah I think I'll still stick with the

1:42:28 ↗ income okay

1:42:32 ↗ so you're not changing your mind okay

1:42:34 ↗ yeah

1:42:39 ↗ okay awesome

1:42:46 ↗ okay well there you go that's called

1:42:48 ↗ deliberation we're doing

1:42:50 ↗ it uh okay so goal six monitor

1:42:53 ↗ Transportation performance

1:42:58 ↗ I have a question of

1:43:02 ↗ before I make a decision on that one

1:43:05 ↗ okay so it says

1:43:09 ↗ so

1:43:10 ↗ doesn't

1:43:12 ↗ the county already have a geographical

1:43:15 ↗ information system

1:43:19 ↗ that

1:43:21 ↗ so we

1:43:23 ↗ so with the City of Issaquah and put

1:43:27 ↗ additional information to the gis system

1:43:33 ↗ um your question is to the county yeah

1:43:36 ↗ enough for three equals six maintain a

1:43:39 ↗ geographic information system database

1:43:41 ↗ of Transportation infrastructure

1:43:43 ↗ including its

1:43:45 ↗ the basis oh so you would add your its

1:43:49 ↗ devices to the king counties GIS system

1:43:55 ↗ well that that's that's not uh specific

1:44:00 ↗ to King County or or it's our 84 hours

1:44:03 ↗ we do have uh geographical or GIS

1:44:07 ↗ database but what we are saying here is

1:44:11 ↗ to keep that up to date maintaining it

1:44:14 ↗ and add on to what we already have on

1:44:18 ↗ the the gis to add on our ideas devices

1:44:22 ↗ okay

1:44:29 ↗ Julie looks ready you're not you're next

1:44:31 ↗ to each start because the next round

1:44:34 ↗ I'll go with uh

1:44:35 ↗ automate and develop efficient systems

1:44:38 ↗ for collecting scoring and analyzing

1:44:41 ↗ Transportation data performance measures

1:44:43 ↗ just because I think that's kind of like

1:44:45 ↗ more it's like most directly

1:44:49 ↗ involve thing when it comes to having an

1:44:51 ↗ investment made in that space and so

1:44:54 ↗ that's kind of my choice

1:44:56 ↗ into that directness

1:45:03 ↗ I'm going to change mine to automate I

1:45:05 ↗ think number one is very similar to that

1:45:07 ↗ but number the one you just mentioned

1:45:09 ↗ adds the concept of automating so like

1:45:13 ↗ remote sensing or other kinds of

1:45:15 ↗ automated technologies that work with

1:45:17 ↗ that one

1:45:23 ↗ well you can make that three that's one

1:45:25 ↗ of my three choices but that's I don't

1:45:27 ↗ like number one as much as I'd like to

1:45:29 ↗ automate develop professional systems

1:45:31 ↗ for the collecting and storing and

1:45:33 ↗ analyzing

1:45:35 ↗ okay

1:45:38 ↗ I'm also going with omelette and develop

1:45:42 ↗ positions

1:45:43 ↗ um

1:45:44 ↗ I agree that it seems a lot of the first

1:45:47 ↗ one

1:45:48 ↗ um also just in general some of these

1:45:50 ↗ were like I could do like a hard note on

1:45:54 ↗ um

1:45:55 ↗ very wary of what happened to data

1:45:57 ↗ privacy for folks and

1:45:59 ↗ making sure that's all Tip Top and not

1:46:01 ↗ being sold off to

1:46:05 ↗ foreign

1:46:08 ↗ okay well rule number six is unanimous

1:46:14 ↗ we got so good

1:46:20 ↗ um

1:46:22 ↗ I think that we

1:46:25 ↗ don't have the luxury of prioritizing

1:46:28 ↗ our

1:46:30 ↗ um

1:46:31 ↗ goals but I think you've heard a lot

1:46:34 ↗ about what we think is important and I

1:46:36 ↗ guess what I would like to do is ask the

1:46:40 ↗ report to make some general comments

1:46:42 ↗ about some themes that you heard and

1:46:45 ↗ even if we didn't have time to reach a

1:46:46 ↗ consensus some of the things that caused

1:46:48 ↗ us a little anxiety uh points that were

1:46:51 ↗ made that were kind of meta points and

1:46:53 ↗ um

1:46:54 ↗ I'm assuming this is going to end up

1:46:55 ↗ being a report that you prepare for the

1:46:59 ↗ November 8th meeting and I'll just

1:47:01 ↗ remind everybody that when things are

1:47:03 ↗ going to council that have tabs

1:47:07 ↗ uh summary of tab's feedback we now have

1:47:10 ↗ a system where they should send it to

1:47:12 ↗ Julian and me and we take a quick look

1:47:13 ↗ and comment uh that was something we

1:47:16 ↗ discussed you might remember a couple

1:47:17 ↗ months ago

1:47:19 ↗ um and we did that the last time and it

1:47:22 ↗ worked pretty well we responded pretty

1:47:24 ↗ quickly didn't have a whole lot to say

1:47:26 ↗ but a little bit I think we added a

1:47:28 ↗ confinement remember exactly but that um

1:47:31 ↗ yeah so we'll be looking to see if you

1:47:34 ↗ you know I know it's not going to be

1:47:35 ↗ easy

1:47:36 ↗ but to just try to capture some of the

1:47:38 ↗ things that

1:47:39 ↗ were high level that we were wrestling

1:47:41 ↗ with so they can accelerate their

1:47:44 ↗ wrestling yes

1:47:48 ↗ and without I would suggest that we move

1:47:51 ↗ on and core Thomas has been waiting for

1:47:53 ↗ two hours now and

1:47:56 ↗ um

1:47:56 ↗ we do have a oh look at us

1:48:01 ↗ oh

1:48:02 ↗ then we do need to take a couple minutes

1:48:06 ↗ I do uh Thomas I don't know if you think

1:48:10 ↗ we can get through this but um we did

1:48:11 ↗ take an awful long time and I think this

1:48:13 ↗ was

1:48:14 ↗ um this order was on purpose because

1:48:16 ↗ there is a meeting on November 4th

1:48:19 ↗ um and I don't know if we can get

1:48:21 ↗ through it all and if we don't what we

1:48:23 ↗ would do about that but I I'm not

1:48:25 ↗ opposed to making meetings longer than

1:48:27 ↗ we said

1:48:28 ↗ but I still don't I still like to end

1:48:30 ↗ them on time because I think that it

1:48:33 ↗ puts people in an awkward position where

1:48:34 ↗ they might have to leave early and not

1:48:36 ↗ get to finish their discussion so I

1:48:38 ↗ would like us to finish on time

1:48:40 ↗ but I think

1:48:41 ↗ I'm sorry you mean like 8 30

1:48:44 ↗ . I meant that 8 30 the new time yeah I

1:48:46 ↗ just don't like people to be surprised

1:48:48 ↗ and expected to be able to have to leave

1:48:50 ↗ and have to choose between your

1:48:51 ↗ commitment and finishing the discussion

1:48:53 ↗ and you guys have said you could say to

1:48:55 ↗ any three but I don't want it I still

1:48:56 ↗ want to stick to the train

1:48:58 ↗ ing I don't mind giving people notice

1:48:59 ↗ about

1:49:01 ↗ I don't like making a meeting go longer

1:49:03 ↗ right because I don't think it's fair

1:49:06 ↗ um

1:49:06 ↗ unless we always go over and then people

1:49:09 ↗ can plan for that too but anyway then

1:49:10 ↗ people won't volunteer for the board as

1:49:12 ↗ if it always goes over so there's that

1:49:14 ↗ too

1:49:15 ↗ um as well was there anything else you

1:49:17 ↗ wanted to say about that or should we go

1:49:18 ↗ ahead and share over the topic

1:49:20 ↗ it over

1:49:22 ↗ thank you that was hard but we hopefully

1:49:25 ↗ got some information by the time we got

1:49:27 ↗ really going

1:49:29 ↗ um okay

1:49:31 ↗ turning over to you Thomas

1:49:38 ↗ well good evening I will try to move

1:49:40 ↗ through this very quickly and

1:49:45 ↗ again yeah my name is Thomas faldrez and

1:49:47 ↗ I'm the senior Transportation planner at

1:49:49 ↗ Issaquah

1:49:50 ↗ so tonight I will be providing an update

1:49:53 ↗ on the transit study which uh kicked off

1:49:56 ↗ last month I'll then walk through the

1:49:59 ↗ study's proposed Community engagement

1:50:01 ↗ plan and ask the board for some feedback

1:50:04 ↗ best thing I'll conclude my presentation

1:50:06 ↗ but by providing a preview of what's

1:50:09 ↗ coming down the pike

1:50:12 ↗ uh so before I begin just wanted to

1:50:15 ↗ share these two questions

1:50:18 ↗ um so question one is does the proposed

1:50:21 ↗ Community engagement plan meet the goal

1:50:23 ↗ of engaging with diverse voices from the

1:50:26 ↗ community especially those with a higher

1:50:28 ↗ dependency on transit services

1:50:31 ↗ in question two is are there any

1:50:34 ↗ additional Community interests or

1:50:36 ↗ audiences that we're missing from the

1:50:38 ↗ key audiences and stakeholders list

1:50:40 ↗ that's been provided to you in

1:50:42 ↗ attachment B of your packet

1:50:44 ↗ so this will be item for B attachment

1:50:51 ↗ so as I go through this presentation

1:50:53 ↗ just keep those questions in mind

1:50:57 ↗ so where are we at with this project we

1:51:00 ↗ again just kicked off the study uh so in

1:51:03 ↗ August we selected uh dks Associates to

1:51:07 ↗ lead the development of the study and in

1:51:09 ↗ September we kicked this off and as you

1:51:12 ↗ can see from this timeline after two

1:51:13 ↗ major phases I will be ready to complete

1:51:16 ↗ this project along with the comp plan

1:51:18 ↗ update in 2024.

1:51:23 ↗ so this project team is currently

1:51:25 ↗ developing the existing conditions memo

1:51:28 ↗ which is Phase 1.1 that deliverable

1:51:32 ↗ and to do that we'll be consolidating

1:51:35 ↗ local and Regional planning documents

1:51:37 ↗ evaluating existing Transit operational

1:51:40 ↗ performance and Service delivery and

1:51:43 ↗ determine the existing commuting

1:51:45 ↗ patterns

1:51:46 ↗ so just giving a baseline of how things

1:51:48 ↗ are in Issaquah as it relates to Transit

1:51:52 ↗ the draft Community engagement plan

1:51:55 ↗ which is highlighted here has now been

1:51:57 ↗ developed and I'm here to ask for your

1:52:00 ↗ feedback on this

1:52:04 ↗ so at a very high level the proposed

1:52:07 ↗ Community engagement plan includes

1:52:09 ↗ engaging with stakeholder groups

1:52:10 ↗ representing diverse voices interests

1:52:13 ↗ and needs

1:52:15 ↗ an online multilingual Communications

1:52:18 ↗ platforms to share information educate

1:52:21 ↗ the community and receive feedback

1:52:26 ↗ posting a multilingual Community open

1:52:28 ↗ house

1:52:29 ↗ and several pop-up events at existing

1:52:32 ↗ Community gatherings

1:52:34 ↗ that will be utilizing the city's boards

1:52:37 ↗ and commissions like we're doing today

1:52:39 ↗ to gather feedback at project milestones

1:52:43 ↗ and lastly we'll be working closely with

1:52:45 ↗ other invested um

1:52:49 ↗ such as King County Metro Sound Transit

1:52:52 ↗ and the Puget Sound Regional Council

1:52:55 ↗ this is just to make sure that the

1:52:58 ↗ content and the deliverables that we're

1:52:59 ↗ developing is accurate it's practical

1:53:02 ↗ it's very robust in its development and

1:53:06 ↗ most importantly that it's going to be

1:53:08 ↗ useful to us

1:53:13 ↗ so a full list of the plans key

1:53:16 ↗ audiences and stakeholders can be found

1:53:18 ↗ in attachment B of agenda item 4B

1:53:22 ↗ and to summarize the very high level

1:53:25 ↗ groups of the folks on this list the key

1:53:29 ↗ audiences will be current and potential

1:53:32 ↗ stakeholder sorry current and potential

1:53:35 ↗ Transit users

1:53:37 ↗ Community businesses and economic

1:53:40 ↗ development interests

1:53:42 ↗ public agency Representatives

1:53:44 ↗ seniors youth

1:53:47 ↗ I'm looking to be challenged and the

1:53:50 ↗ general community at Large

1:53:54 ↗ moving on to the online Communications

1:53:57 ↗ the study will have its own dedicated

1:53:59 ↗ webpage on the city's website this is

1:54:02 ↗ going to serve as the primary source of

1:54:04 ↗ project information

1:54:06 ↗ the website is going to include general

1:54:08 ↗ information and educational materials on

1:54:11 ↗ what we're doing

1:54:12 ↗ staff contacts project and meeting

1:54:15 ↗ documents links to surveys and other

1:54:18 ↗ interactive Community feedback tools and

1:54:21 ↗ other ways that people can participate

1:54:24 ↗ that also includes having the city use

1:54:27 ↗ its social media accounts this is to

1:54:30 ↗ share project information promote events

1:54:34 ↗ and other participation opportunities

1:54:36 ↗ and to receive Community feedback

1:54:40 ↗ some of the examples of the social media

1:54:43 ↗ accounts include Facebook Instagram next

1:54:46 ↗ door and Twitter

1:54:50 ↗ he's the only ones I'm aware of I am

1:54:51 ↗ actually not sure what else we have but

1:54:53 ↗ those are those on the top of my mind

1:54:57 ↗ um the project will also use email

1:54:59 ↗ newsletters and like email uh meeting

1:55:02 ↗ invites just to remind you of events

1:55:08 ↗ so going into the pop-up events and the

1:55:11 ↗ open house so these events uh the

1:55:15 ↗ project team would would be there to

1:55:17 ↗ gather feedback post questions to the

1:55:20 ↗ community and work with participants to

1:55:22 ↗ reimagine what it means to be trans and

1:55:25 ↗ supportive in our community

1:55:27 ↗ yeah very importantly these events would

1:55:29 ↗ have translation services for Spanish

1:55:32 ↗ and Mandarin speaking uh attendees

1:55:35 ↗ and the prime goals of this would be to

1:55:38 ↗ have representation from diverse voices

1:55:40 ↗ people and interests

1:55:42 ↗ with additional Outreach to the

1:55:45 ↗ stakeholder groups that we have listed

1:55:48 ↗ we also hope to provide many ways for

1:55:52 ↗ people to participate who are unable to

1:55:54 ↗ actually attend that meeting

1:55:56 ↗ we also hope to promote it widely

1:55:58 ↗ through the community and to incorporate

1:56:01 ↗ Community feedback directly into the

1:56:03 ↗ planning process

1:56:04 ↗ [Music]

1:56:06 ↗ uh Wesley

1:56:09 ↗ I wanted to highlight the fact that

1:56:11 ↗ we'll be using the city boards and

1:56:12 ↗ commissions and

1:56:15 ↗ this would be the entire project

1:56:17 ↗ lifestyle cycle

1:56:19 ↗ so as was mentioned at the June meeting

1:56:22 ↗ the tab will be the the primary uh

1:56:26 ↗ you know board it would be working on

1:56:29 ↗ this

1:56:31 ↗ um the table begins to provide uh

1:56:34 ↗ great victim feedback at project

1:56:37 ↗ milestones we also hope to come to the

1:56:40 ↗ tab and just you know give General

1:56:42 ↗ updates on where the product project is

1:56:44 ↗ going so that you all are aware of that

1:56:46 ↗ as well as invite the tab to attend the

1:56:49 ↗ community outreach events that I just

1:56:51 ↗ mentioned

1:56:53 ↗ secondary to the tab would be the

1:56:55 ↗ economic Vitality commission the equity

1:56:58 ↗ board the Human Services Commission and

1:57:01 ↗ the planning policy Commission

1:57:04 ↗ these secondary boards and commissions

1:57:06 ↗ would also be provided regular updates

1:57:08 ↗ on how the project how the project is

1:57:10 ↗ going

1:57:12 ↗ um the administration would also be

1:57:14 ↗ seeking feedback from these boards at

1:57:18 ↗ specific

1:57:20 ↗ sometimes where where their expertise

1:57:23 ↗ would be helpful

1:57:27 ↗ so an example of this in practice will

1:57:30 ↗ be the Link light rail planning document

1:57:32 ↗ so for this example uh you know the

1:57:35 ↗ proposal would be that the economic

1:57:37 ↗ fertility commission and the planning

1:57:39 ↗ policy commission might be able to

1:57:41 ↗ provide some good feedback as the main

1:57:45 ↗ flight rail planning document which you

1:57:48 ↗ know goes into uh instances of like you

1:57:52 ↗ know potential station location and

1:57:55 ↗ there would be Economic Development and

1:57:58 ↗ land use planning implications so they

1:58:00 ↗ would be able to provide good feedback

1:58:02 ↗ in that instance

1:58:09 ↗ and so in in practice feedback heard

1:58:12 ↗ from these groups would then be shared

1:58:15 ↗ with the tab who would then provide

1:58:18 ↗ their own feedback on top of that

1:58:20 ↗ and then that would be sent to the

1:58:22 ↗ mobility and infrastructure Council

1:58:24 ↗ committee who would then have the final

1:58:25 ↗ review

1:58:27 ↗ so just a process here and you can kind

1:58:30 ↗ of imagine it as like a pyramid

1:58:34 ↗ and the third Group which is all other

1:58:35 ↗ boards and commissions that we would

1:58:37 ↗ want to keep them informed throughout

1:58:39 ↗ the the planning process we would also

1:58:41 ↗ invite them to participate at a regular

1:58:43 ↗ community

1:58:45 ↗ events to provide feedback using the

1:58:47 ↗ other methods that will be available to

1:58:50 ↗ the community

1:58:51 ↗ foreign

1:58:57 ↗ thank you very much for listening to

1:59:00 ↗ this and uh if we could

1:59:04 ↗ maybe go through both of these questions

1:59:06 ↗ and I'd be happy to answer any questions

1:59:09 ↗ um

1:59:10 ↗ these

1:59:16 ↗ thank you Thomas do you guys have any

1:59:18 ↗ questions about his presentation

1:59:21 ↗ the uh other like the two languages

1:59:25 ↗ selected for outreach Beyond English

1:59:27 ↗ like Mandarin and

1:59:30 ↗ are those like the top two identified

1:59:33 ↗ languages spoken in Issaquah outside of

1:59:36 ↗ English or how to play upstairs the

1:59:38 ↗ process to come into those two

1:59:40 ↗ yeah that's a great question they are so

1:59:42 ↗ we we went to the the latest census data

1:59:45 ↗ we we looked at all the the residents of

1:59:48 ↗ Issaquah we found that you know

1:59:51 ↗ obviously English is the most widely

1:59:52 ↗ spoken but second to that was I believe

1:59:55 ↗ Mandarin and then third was Spanish

1:59:58 ↗ thanks

2:00:02 ↗ I would go into the second question

2:00:06 ↗ there I think what

2:00:08 ↗ we're missing in this stakeholder group

2:00:10 ↗ particularly for Mobility

2:00:13 ↗ is some kind of bike advocacy as well

2:00:17 ↗ when it comes to Safe bike storage at

2:00:21 ↗ the future light rail station that might

2:00:22 ↗ be useful

2:00:24 ↗ integrating like Mobility options into

2:00:27 ↗ getting to those Transit centers will be

2:00:29 ↗ useful and so I think adding you know

2:00:32 ↗ Cascade or Washington bikes or anything

2:00:34 ↗ or any associated

2:00:37 ↗ would be kind of useful to add in that

2:00:39 ↗ stakeholder group I agree with those

2:00:41 ↗ that's good too as well as uh Facebook

2:00:43 ↗ we have some bike shops in town I don't

2:00:46 ↗ know if they're they have a network

2:00:48 ↗ right that they would plug in I don't

2:00:49 ↗ know what that looks like even

2:00:50 ↗ partnering with those businesses

2:00:52 ↗ and using that as like an Outreach base

2:00:54 ↗ in addition to Delia Cassie West club or

2:00:56 ↗ other anti groups

2:00:58 ↗ seems like a local connection there

2:01:01 ↗ but you know generally when it comes to

2:01:04 ↗ this community engagement plan

2:01:07 ↗ in

2:01:08 ↗ you know

2:01:10 ↗ when we're talking about surveys it's

2:01:13 ↗ It's tricky because you know I don't

2:01:15 ↗ know how much Outreach we did for this

2:01:17 ↗ other survey that we were just presented

2:01:19 ↗ with but

2:01:20 ↗ you just have to make sure that it's not

2:01:23 ↗ overrepresenting the traditional

2:01:26 ↗ groups who might be taking those

2:01:29 ↗ and so I I don't know what it would

2:01:31 ↗ require but I do think

2:01:33 ↗ is it caused Community engagement plans

2:01:36 ↗ do need to be working they do need a

2:01:39 ↗ revamp because what we're doing is every

2:01:44 ↗ agency is faced with the same problem

2:01:46 ↗ we're not alone but we are I think

2:01:51 ↗ I feel like we're pretty committed to

2:01:53 ↗ that so I totally agree with you

2:01:56 ↗ um I I was just wondering the one

2:01:58 ↗ specific thing I have the only specific

2:02:00 ↗ thing

2:02:01 ↗ because I don't know the answer of how

2:02:03 ↗ to do that and you know it's it's not

2:02:05 ↗ only their hard to reach but they're

2:02:06 ↗ also

2:02:08 ↗ Bolton people that are Transit dependent

2:02:11 ↗ people that are um bike dependent you

2:02:14 ↗ know for transportation or um

2:02:17 ↗ yep they're going to be busy earlier and

2:02:19 ↗ less free time they're gonna um not be

2:02:21 ↗ able to they're not gonna hang around

2:02:24 ↗ sit around filling out surveys but I was

2:02:27 ↗ just wondering whether we were allowed

2:02:30 ↗ to I did see something in there about

2:02:31 ↗ the Isco school district and I think it

2:02:34 ↗ would be really useful to Target

2:02:36 ↗ uh take some measure of

2:02:41 ↗ of the population of the school whether

2:02:43 ↗ it's you know highest incidence of free

2:02:46 ↗ well not reduced lunch or just the um if

2:02:50 ↗ the census blocks line up with the

2:02:51 ↗ School boundaries or whatever some kind

2:02:53 ↗ of proxy for uh trying to reach out to

2:02:56 ↗ this schools that I have the most

2:03:00 ↗ traditionally underrepresented and I

2:03:03 ↗ mean stick things in kids backpacks I

2:03:06 ↗ mean I don't know what they allow us to

2:03:08 ↗ do but I know they have newsletters and

2:03:09 ↗ such but I bet they have the same

2:03:11 ↗ challenges getting their parents but at

2:03:13 ↗ least

2:03:14 ↗ um it's one step closer so I was just

2:03:17 ↗ wondering about a an extra level of

2:03:20 ↗ effort to the elementary schools that

2:03:26 ↗ serve the most lower

2:03:29 ↗ populations as an extra layer of effort

2:03:32 ↗ if that's possible

2:03:34 ↗ we allowed to offer any kind of

2:03:36 ↗ incentive for this of like hey you take

2:03:38 ↗ this and

2:03:39 ↗ like we can

2:03:41 ↗ throw some change into your account or

2:03:43 ↗ something like that like I mean that

2:03:44 ↗ seems pretty complicated but I don't

2:03:46 ↗ like in college you know it's like

2:03:47 ↗ students would need to do their surveys

2:03:50 ↗ and so they'd be like hey you get a five

2:03:51 ↗ dollar gift card you're on a raffle or

2:03:53 ↗ whatever the card like I don't honestly

2:03:54 ↗ know how much incentives like that work

2:03:57 ↗ for capturing more people I think it's

2:03:59 ↗ for me it's more about like a time thing

2:04:01 ↗ I'm like it's gonna take me 30 minutes

2:04:02 ↗ and I'm doing it versus it's going to

2:04:04 ↗ take me five yeah I can do it and also

2:04:05 ↗ taking into account survey fatigue as

2:04:07 ↗ well how many surveys are happening at

2:04:09 ↗ this time like the cities out more and

2:04:12 ↗ more I feel like people are going to be

2:04:14 ↗ less likely to take them if there's like

2:04:15 ↗ 30 different surveys On Any Given year

2:04:17 ↗ versus like all right we're gonna put

2:04:19 ↗ all of our energy into the transit one

2:04:21 ↗ um like get the maximum amount of people

2:04:24 ↗ take it well they're not all surveys

2:04:25 ↗ sorry oh yeah yeah

2:04:27 ↗ um but I'm just wondering I think it's a

2:04:30 ↗ great question and

2:04:32 ↗ and I think that that's if we all agree

2:04:34 ↗ maybe kind of consensus like give that

2:04:36 ↗ feedback back to them that if it's

2:04:38 ↗ possible to incent somehow whether

2:04:40 ↗ they're open houses then you can provide

2:04:42 ↗ child care or bus Pat you know uh some

2:04:47 ↗ way to get there

2:04:49 ↗ I don't know

2:04:50 ↗ I'm not the expert on how to get people

2:04:53 ↗ to participate in these things but I

2:04:54 ↗ think that

2:04:56 ↗ what I'm hearing everybody to say is

2:04:57 ↗ that we went to the city to invest

2:05:01 ↗ in that end

2:05:04 ↗ and turn out a local celebrity and other

2:05:06 ↗ Mariners that used to live in the town

2:05:14 ↗ it's generally

2:05:16 ↗ prior to also try to get to where people

2:05:19 ↗ are at of course and that's part of the

2:05:22 ↗ engagement plan but there has to be you

2:05:25 ↗ know you have to focus on helping people

2:05:26 ↗ get to where the staff are and having

2:05:30 ↗ the staff go out to the actual community

2:05:33 ↗ continues the engagement methods most

2:05:36 ↗ here but I do think

2:05:38 ↗ we have to try our best to like not do

2:05:41 ↗ the same same old of getting these

2:05:44 ↗ surveys and their demo graphics

2:05:49 ↗ but

2:05:50 ↗ yeah yeah

2:05:54 ↗ it's a good idea though but it depends

2:05:58 ↗ upon where it is at what time maybe they

2:06:01 ↗ need a few of those it's that or if it's

2:06:03 ↗ possible to just go where the community

2:06:05 ↗ is already existing right if you're like

2:06:08 ↗ I

2:06:09 ↗ don't have good

2:06:11 ↗ for that but if you know there's already

2:06:13 ↗ a regularly occurring meeting that a

2:06:14 ↗ certain Community is going to maybe in

2:06:17 ↗ time and then asking which I know

2:06:19 ↗ there's you know you know like coming in

2:06:21 ↗ as Government to a community saying hey

2:06:24 ↗ can we you know

2:06:25 ↗ you know come in gear a portion of this

2:06:27 ↗ meeting for a bit because we have

2:06:28 ↗ something important to say I want your

2:06:30 ↗ participation in it like I don't quite

2:06:32 ↗ know what the like you know ethics of

2:06:33 ↗ that are around but

2:06:35 ↗ um I mean like visiting Erica like

2:06:38 ↗ visiting the senior center right yeah I

2:06:41 ↗ mean that's a city entity I believe so I

2:06:43 ↗ don't think I don't know how it should

2:06:45 ↗ be that way

2:06:46 ↗ meeting sure yeah exactly like that yeah

2:06:50 ↗ and then especially targeting like

2:06:52 ↗ culturally diverse groups like I have a

2:06:55 ↗ whole list here actually I didn't know

2:06:57 ↗ if you were sharing this yet I'm like

2:06:58 ↗ for the at least the second question of

2:07:00 ↗ like people that I a group so like I

2:07:02 ↗ I add on to the list and I'm happy to

2:07:04 ↗ just email this

2:07:06 ↗ um

2:07:06 ↗ but like uh it's not in Issaquah But

2:07:09 ↗ Central cultural Mexicana in Redmond I

2:07:12 ↗ don't know how many folks that go to

2:07:13 ↗ those events and things

2:07:15 ↗ primarily Latino I don't know how many

2:07:17 ↗ of us live within diversity boundaries

2:07:19 ↗ that we're looking at and

2:07:21 ↗ people who want to be taking this trend

2:07:22 ↗ survey are showing up to an event or

2:07:24 ↗ hearing it or whatever even though

2:07:26 ↗ that's not in Issaquah but it's like a

2:07:29 ↗ community hub for a certain community

2:07:32 ↗ foreign

2:07:35 ↗ not to be confused with El Centro in

2:07:37 ↗ Seattle okay

2:07:39 ↗ but like I know people that

2:07:41 ↗ um the executive directors of it so

2:07:43 ↗ yeah

2:07:46 ↗ yeah this is all great feedback I'd be

2:07:47 ↗ I'd be happy to

2:07:49 ↗ um accept a list of other organizations

2:07:52 ↗ if you have specific ones

2:07:54 ↗ um or if you have just you know

2:07:57 ↗ overarching groups that are missing from

2:08:01 ↗ this list we can you know staff and our

2:08:04 ↗ project team can dive into that and do

2:08:07 ↗ our own independent research

2:08:09 ↗ okay yeah I'll just I'll send over this

2:08:12 ↗ let's just not take up more time going

2:08:13 ↗ down but uh I think I should though

2:08:17 ↗ mention I didn't

2:08:19 ↗ some I saw some on the list that you had

2:08:21 ↗ provided but just like overarchingly

2:08:23 ↗ like anecdotally I see a lot of uh like

2:08:27 ↗ um East Indian population within

2:08:29 ↗ Issaquah and so I think also like

2:08:31 ↗ hitting that I know like the and there's

2:08:33 ↗ you know various languages that

2:08:36 ↗ English but um

2:08:38 ↗ I don't know if that would be worth like

2:08:40 ↗ I didn't see that within the two

2:08:42 ↗ languages other than English selected

2:08:45 ↗ like that Community necessarily

2:08:46 ↗ represented so I'm not sure but I just

2:08:49 ↗ don't know that the numbers right like

2:08:50 ↗ the number of like population of folks

2:08:52 ↗ that identify as such but I don't know

2:08:56 ↗ yeah one of the um one of the sort of

2:08:59 ↗ considerations is that we were really

2:09:01 ↗ looking uh

2:09:03 ↗ we wanted to lock in on groups that had

2:09:06 ↗ limited English proficiency

2:09:08 ↗ primarily so you know many folks speak

2:09:11 ↗ multiple languages so um if if it's

2:09:15 ↗ already do speak English we sort of

2:09:18 ↗ assume that we can cover our bases in

2:09:19 ↗ that regard

2:09:21 ↗ [Music]

2:09:23 ↗ that is a great question though and a

2:09:25 ↗ good comment to consider we really want

2:09:28 ↗ to open this up to anybody that wants to

2:09:30 ↗ provide feedback so um

2:09:32 ↗ any way that we can get people involved

2:09:35 ↗ we're trying to do it with this project

2:09:47 ↗ does anyone else have any additional

2:09:48 ↗ feedback I I feel like we're

2:09:52 ↗ we're supportive of

2:09:55 ↗ generally the direction we

2:09:58 ↗ just want to make sure that we like

2:09:59 ↗ Julian said to try our hardest to keep

2:10:03 ↗ you know it's it's definitely elusive to

2:10:06 ↗ get the

2:10:07 ↗ uh transdependent folks but

2:10:11 ↗ anyone else that means dad

2:10:13 ↗ uh Thomas do you feel like you've got

2:10:16 ↗ um what you needed from this group

2:10:19 ↗ yeah maybe if I could just do a recap

2:10:21 ↗ here uh so the question one

2:10:24 ↗ is uh

2:10:26 ↗ I mean do you do you think that this

2:10:29 ↗ plan is meeting the goal of engaging

2:10:31 ↗ diverse voices

2:10:33 ↗ because there's that are uh

2:10:37 ↗ you know trying to dependent uh service

2:10:39 ↗ recipients

2:10:41 ↗ Transit writers

2:10:47 ↗ I would are you asking us the question

2:10:49 ↗ to get to summarize yeah

2:10:52 ↗ suggest that what you're hearing is that

2:10:54 ↗ as best as we know how okay

2:10:58 ↗ and then we don't have

2:11:01 ↗ any better ideas but that we just we

2:11:03 ↗ recognize that it's really difficult and

2:11:05 ↗ I want to encourage

2:11:07 ↗ yeah but we don't have any specific uh

2:11:11 ↗ I mean aside from what you've heard some

2:11:13 ↗ of the specific ideas that I think

2:11:16 ↗ I think the answer is generally yes to

2:11:17 ↗ the extent

2:11:19 ↗ that

2:11:20 ↗ we just know it's a very difficult goal

2:11:22 ↗ yeah we have to revamp our you know go

2:11:26 ↗ really hard at trying to help people get

2:11:28 ↗ to the open houses and

2:11:30 ↗ these communities and then we also have

2:11:32 ↗ to

2:11:33 ↗ have staff I've tried their hardest to

2:11:35 ↗ connecting with the various interest

2:11:37 ↗ groups yeah

2:11:39 ↗ Community groups with the addition of

2:11:41 ↗ the uh well I guess that's a question

2:11:43 ↗ number two I guess yeah I mean I'm

2:11:46 ↗ looking at the goals with sharing

2:11:47 ↗ information educate the community which

2:11:49 ↗ is good it's great to appropriate

2:11:50 ↗ feedback directly to the planning

2:11:52 ↗ process so these are all

2:11:55 ↗ and options for those who can't attend

2:11:56 ↗ those are all good folks

2:12:01 ↗ I think the answer is generally yes okay

2:12:03 ↗ great

2:12:05 ↗ okay and then the second question uh it

2:12:08 ↗ sounds like uh potentially

2:12:12 ↗ there are some

2:12:14 ↗ additional groups that could be

2:12:17 ↗ incorporated into this list but

2:12:19 ↗ is that is the board's consensus that

2:12:26 ↗ overall these

2:12:29 ↗ Umbrellas of groups are sort of hitting

2:12:31 ↗ the mark

2:12:37 ↗ yeah with the addition of the bicycling

2:12:39 ↗ with the addition of the Viking I have

2:12:43 ↗ to see groups and then also the cultural

2:12:45 ↗ groups as well that may be mostly out of

2:12:49 ↗ the city but you can still provide

2:12:51 ↗ important feedback

2:12:58 ↗ yeah this is very good feedback

2:13:01 ↗ um this is exactly what I was looking

2:13:02 ↗ for so thank you very much

2:13:06 ↗ thank you for waiting

2:13:08 ↗ no worries happy to do it

2:13:11 ↗ see look at this wow okay

2:13:15 ↗ you didn't think we could do it did you

2:13:17 ↗ Jerry

2:13:20 ↗ um

2:13:21 ↗ okay so with that it sounds like we're

2:13:23 ↗ concluding item 4B

2:13:26 ↗ and ready to move on to 5A the board

2:13:30 ↗ work plan

2:13:33 ↗ um

2:13:55 ↗ yeah so it's been a while since we

2:13:57 ↗ weren't able to provide

2:14:00 ↗ um

2:14:01 ↗ items on our work plan but we have now a

2:14:06 ↗ couple of things that will be

2:14:08 ↗ will be coming uh for the next

2:14:11 ↗ two meetings as we approach the end of

2:14:14 ↗ the year

2:14:16 ↗ first one would be the Public Water

2:14:19 ↗ Street standards

2:14:21 ↗ um

2:14:22 ↗ that would be that would be brought up

2:14:25 ↗ in November and so

2:14:28 ↗ don't talk it to us and also we will be

2:14:30 ↗ introducing the tip but in the sense of

2:14:34 ↗ the process of our process of selecting

2:14:38 ↗ the tip projects

2:14:41 ↗ uh whistle and then after that we will

2:14:45 ↗ continue on December with the tip

2:14:47 ↗ process we estimate that we would need

2:14:50 ↗ to

2:14:52 ↗ expand of two meetings and the

2:14:57 ↗ Northwestern Amish

2:14:58 ↗ non-moralized project we are finally uh

2:15:03 ↗ in the year with the introduction of

2:15:06 ↗ that project

2:15:09 ↗ in December and for the next

2:15:14 ↗ couple of meetings uh just so you know

2:15:17 ↗ we might end up getting additional time

2:15:20 ↗ as well as we did today

2:15:23 ↗ um and that's something we would like to

2:15:25 ↗ get during

2:15:26 ↗ equal time

2:15:31 ↗ and I'll stop sure

2:15:34 ↗ and as long as I know in advance that

2:15:36 ↗ we're going until 8 39 over a b then

2:15:39 ↗ it's for example

2:15:46 ↗ yes okay

2:15:53 ↗ yeah okay

2:15:55 ↗ thank you

2:15:58 ↗ you want to move on to the step report

2:16:01 ↗ oh yes uh from the staff report we only

2:16:04 ↗ have one thing uh we started uh the

2:16:07 ↗ construction of the local way pedestrian

2:16:10 ↗ bridge and Race intersection

2:16:12 ↗ um you have been able to drive a newborn

2:16:17 ↗ weight between both

2:16:20 ↗ can you tell me throw ahead we have

2:16:22 ↗ started that project there is a

2:16:26 ↗ panel then there is a temporary signal

2:16:28 ↗ for the traffic controller

2:16:30 ↗ the project the project the construction

2:16:32 ↗ is ongoing and

2:16:35 ↗ moving

2:16:39 ↗ to help

2:16:41 ↗ reduce the speeds with the very center

2:16:43 ↗ section

2:16:44 ↗ so providing more direct connection to

2:16:46 ↗ the trailhead

2:16:48 ↗ another crosswalk

2:16:50 ↗ with flashers

2:16:53 ↗ devices

2:17:01 ↗ depends on the weather yes uh it has

2:17:05 ↗ been ongoing really fast since we

2:17:07 ↗ started um but now that weather is going

2:17:11 ↗ to start

2:17:12 ↗ um we could be

2:17:15 ↗ could be extended through uh too early

2:17:18 ↗ next year

2:17:19 ↗ um but it's mostly because of the

2:17:22 ↗ bleeding time of product arts and

2:17:25 ↗ stuff like that and the

2:17:28 ↗ payment marking as well but it's that I

2:17:33 ↗ would say that the biggest the heaviest

2:17:35 ↗ load of the project is going along

2:17:38 ↗ pretty quickly

2:17:44 ↗ anything more on the step report

2:17:48 ↗ okay I do have a couple items on the

2:17:52 ↗ chair report

2:17:54 ↗ a piece of paper here

2:17:59 ↗ it is okay

2:18:02 ↗ um just want to remind you a bit about

2:18:04 ↗ recruitment right now we are eight

2:18:06 ↗ people

2:18:08 ↗ um it takes five to make a quorum

2:18:10 ↗ because we should be in nine positions

2:18:12 ↗ and two um alternate so we're down to

2:18:15 ↗ eight on this board regular members so

2:18:18 ↗ recruitment will be

2:18:20 ↗ um it's it will still be handled

2:18:22 ↗ annually I just uh wanted to remind

2:18:24 ↗ everybody

2:18:25 ↗ did some drop happen or

2:18:29 ↗ yeah Joseph South College

2:18:32 ↗ Joseph and Janie and then one of those

2:18:35 ↗ was filled by Jerry yes

2:18:38 ↗ um and so then we yeah that vacates all

2:18:42 ↗ uh alternates and leaves us one short so

2:18:46 ↗ um

2:18:47 ↗ just want to remind you guys of that

2:18:50 ↗ um the there's another thing and that's

2:18:52 ↗ the next item is that the mobility

2:18:54 ↗ infrastructure has a committee his

2:18:56 ↗ regular meeting the second Tuesday and I

2:18:59 ↗ did go to the one in October that was

2:19:01 ↗ really useful I do have a new in

2:19:04 ↗ standing ongoing commitment so it's not

2:19:06 ↗ something I'll be able to attend each

2:19:08 ↗ time I actually think it's really useful

2:19:09 ↗ to have that rotate anyway and so it's

2:19:13 ↗ certainly not required but if we had a

2:19:15 ↗ volunteer to go on November 8th when

2:19:18 ↗ they transmit the information we just

2:19:20 ↗ spent an hour and 45 minutes talking

2:19:22 ↗ about

2:19:23 ↗ um if there was one person that would

2:19:25 ↗ want to go I went in person and I found

2:19:26 ↗ it really useful I don't know a lot of

2:19:29 ↗ the council members but just getting to

2:19:30 ↗ know them a little bit better and

2:19:31 ↗ getting to know the committee there's

2:19:32 ↗ just three of them it's really

2:19:33 ↗ worthwhile so

2:19:35 ↗ um

2:19:36 ↗ is there anybody that wants to volunteer

2:19:38 ↗ to do that I'm gonna be in South

2:19:40 ↗ Carolina okay I am double checking to

2:19:42 ↗ make sure is

2:19:44 ↗ Tuesday oh that is

2:19:45 ↗ interesting it's election day yes you're

2:19:47 ↗ gonna need something to keep your mind

2:19:48 ↗ that's true yeah no I don't work on that

2:19:50 ↗ side but uh what

2:19:53 ↗ uh it's like six o'clock I think six for

2:19:55 ↗ two hours goes to eight or it's more

2:19:58 ↗ like an hour and a half isn't it

2:20:00 ↗ I think Ben depends yeah okay okay

2:20:04 ↗ um tentative yes okay yes I can confirm

2:20:07 ↗ for that

2:20:08 ↗ later okay right but technically you

2:20:10 ↗ know I don't have any order

2:20:11 ↗ you like yeah so if you guys could just

2:20:15 ↗ kind of keep that in mind the second

2:20:17 ↗ Tuesday and maybe um

2:20:19 ↗ we could send a calendar or something

2:20:21 ↗ and just kind of maybe formalize that

2:20:22 ↗ it's certainly not required

2:20:24 ↗ um but I did think it's really useful

2:20:26 ↗ and unless they end up changing that

2:20:28 ↗ date I just won't be able to attend uh

2:20:31 ↗ and then the last thing I have is that

2:20:34 ↗ um

2:20:35 ↗ they we would like to next month discuss

2:20:39 ↗ the possibility of whether uh and we

2:20:42 ↗ would entertain the possibility moving

2:20:43 ↗ this the evening to the regular meeting

2:20:46 ↗ time for this board one of our members

2:20:49 ↗ is unable to attend and

2:20:52 ↗ um actually it looks a little better for

2:20:54 ↗ me to do it not on Thursday but

2:20:57 ↗ um we do have the authority to change

2:20:59 ↗ the regular date we have uh we did she

2:21:02 ↗ did check with the clerk and there are a

2:21:03 ↗ couple dates second Monday second fourth

2:21:06 ↗ Monday and fourth Wednesday

2:21:08 ↗ are available as Alternatives and I

2:21:12 ↗ don't want to get any answers right now

2:21:15 ↗ um the idea is that you get a chance to

2:21:17 ↗ think about that you'll get that and

2:21:19 ↗ that will be an agenda item in your

2:21:22 ↗ packet and then we'll have some time to

2:21:24 ↗ think about it if we can't if it's not

2:21:26 ↗ feasible then we won't move it that's

2:21:28 ↗ the first one

2:21:30 ↗ third Monday second Monday fourth Monday

2:21:34 ↗ fourth Wednesday

2:21:37 ↗ and third Wednesday

2:21:39 ↗ fourth Wednesday okay

2:21:42 ↗ second Monday fourth Monday fourth

2:21:46 ↗ Wednesday

2:21:46 ↗ I personally much for the Wednesdays

2:21:50 ↗ versus Mondays for a couple of reasons

2:21:52 ↗ one of which it seems like a lot of

2:21:53 ↗ holidays fall on Mondays

2:22:00 ↗ right

2:22:02 ↗ um but to be clear

2:22:05 ↗ um

2:22:06 ↗ you know one person's schedule can't

2:22:08 ↗ drive the community but to drive the

2:22:10 ↗ whole report but we do have that

2:22:12 ↗ Authority if if it's all the same to

2:22:14 ↗ everyone and it can handle it exactly

2:22:17 ↗ and it means we would you know because

2:22:19 ↗ we have

2:22:20 ↗ recruitment you know for um

2:22:23 ↗ it's not like we have a long line of

2:22:24 ↗ people you know ready to fill in or

2:22:26 ↗ anything so if you can that'd be great

2:22:27 ↗ and you don't have to say no

2:22:29 ↗ um in fact it for free you don't that

2:22:31 ↗ way you can think about it a little bit

2:22:32 ↗ and then it'll be on the agenda next

2:22:34 ↗ month right yeah

2:22:37 ↗ Google Docs

2:22:39 ↗ and we had a little boat

2:22:42 ↗ uh only well we can just do that real

2:22:44 ↗ time in the meeting and we just we're

2:22:46 ↗ constrained by

2:22:48 ↗ there's only three choices but you're

2:22:50 ↗ right we could do it well we can't

2:22:51 ↗ really have a discussion

2:22:53 ↗ we're not really allowed to do that

2:22:55 ↗ offline anyway we can't we can't that's

2:22:58 ↗ a virtual meeting

2:22:59 ↗ that was a virtual thing

2:23:02 ↗ oh that's fine maybe maybe actually

2:23:05 ↗ that's a really good question maybe

2:23:07 ↗ that's an exception I don't know doesn't

2:23:09 ↗ have to be open public

2:23:12 ↗ is not public

2:23:14 ↗ is she saying that we've had like a

2:23:16 ↗ Google or like a um two years ago the

2:23:20 ↗ opening called when you have a

2:23:22 ↗ Google time a doodle poll thank you

2:23:24 ↗ that's what it was yes I don't have a

2:23:26 ↗ doodle Constitution meaning

2:23:29 ↗ but

2:23:31 ↗ before

2:23:34 ↗ as long as we have it in the agenda and

2:23:37 ↗ we can hook up our schedules exactly

2:23:39 ↗ that's the whole purpose is give people

2:23:40 ↗ time to digest it and then go to the

2:23:42 ↗ meeting and make sure it's no one's um

2:23:47 ↗ or whatever so yeah

2:23:49 ↗ um that does include the chair report we

2:23:52 ↗ are a couple minutes behind but um are

2:23:54 ↗ there any other business or

2:23:55 ↗ announcements

2:23:57 ↗ okay

2:23:59 ↗ nice thank you for saying

2:24:03 ↗ nice job on the house

2:24:05 ↗ oh I didn't write it

2:24:09 ↗ presented it John at least

2:24:13 ↗ I was there on hand and I did make

2:24:15 ↗ remarks yeah John Larson friended most

2:24:18 ↗ of the he did the presentation

2:24:20 ↗ thank you well good I think that means

2:24:22 ↗ that we're adjourned thank you for the

2:24:25 ↗ extra time thank you

2:24:26 ↗ um

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