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Thursday, November 18, 2021

6:00 PM · 1h 50m
Topics tracked across meetings:
Title 18: Zoning & Development Standards ID 1156 1/3
Newport Way Letter, (D) 1/3
Newport Way, (D) 1/2
Section
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a
Board Membership
packet pp.3
Staff report:
TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD Staff Liaison Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner About Email Stephen Padua Created in 2017, the board provides additional expertise and advice on the City's Regular Members transportation system and goals. The board is 2022 – Sujata Goel also the lead advisory group on the 2022 – Micah Zeitz-Chua implementation and management of the City’s 2023 – Kristi Tripple Master Mobility Plan (MMP). 2023 – Dave Waggoner 2023 – Joseph Zhang* Membership 2024 – Cynthia Krass The Transportation Advisory Board is 2024 – Janie Walzer comprised of nine regular members, and up to 2025 – Erika Boyd three alternates. All members are appointed 2025 – Tom McDonald by the Mayor and subject to confirmation by the City Council. Terms expire April 30 of the Alternate Members year listed. For more information, 2022 – Jeri Bernstein see IMC 2.92 and Rules & Regulations. 2022…
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of October 21, 2021
packet pp.5–7
Staff report:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 10-21-21 Transportation Advisory Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Transportation Advisory Board 6:00 PM Virtual Meeting October 21, 2021 MINUTES
4. REGULAR BUSINESS
4a
6:20 PM Joint Meeting Recommendation, (A) [15 minutes]
John Mortenson, Transportation Engineering Manager · packet pp.23–53
Staff report:
The purpose of this item is to update the Transportation Advisory Board on King County Metro East Link Connections, which is a coordinated, co-led process for improving transit connections throughout the Eastside as Link light rail service expands through 2024.
4b
Metro Staff Update and Discussion
Discussion · [30 minutes] Brian Henry, Metro Service Planning JR Alexander, Sound Transit Service Planning Gunner Scott, Metro Public Engagement Valerie Cortes, Sound Transit Public Engagement · packet pp.55–82
Topics: Transportation
Staff report:
Staff will provide background on updating Issaquah’s land use regulations, with a focus on the Goals and Outcomes Document that provides high level guidance for the updates.
4c
Title 18 Development Standards
Information · [30 minutes] Stephen Padua, Senior Transportation Planner Link to Mobility Master Plan · packet pp.83
Topics: Land Use
Staff report:
REGULAR BUSINESS d) 2022 TAB Schedule (updated 11/2/21)
4d
2022 Board Work Plan
Information · [15 minutes] Isabel Diaz, Senior Transportation Engineer
5. REPORTS
5a
Board Work Plan
packet pp.85
Staff report:
• Discuss transit system 1/21/21 • Transportation Improvement Program update introduction FEBRUARY AUGUST 2/4/21 • TIP / Mobility Master Plan project 8/19/21 • Transportation Improvement Program prioritization
5b
Staff Report
5c
Chair Report
5d
Youth Report
0:02 it's now 6 13 and i'd like to call this
0:05 meeting to order after a couple of
0:06 technical difficulties welcome to the
0:09 november 18th meeting of the
0:10 transportation advisory board my name is
0:12 cynthia krass and i am currently the
0:14 chair of this board first item on the
0:17 agenda is approval of the minutes
0:19 i'm seeking approval of the minutes by
0:21 unanimous consent as presented
0:27 now would be a time to object if you had
0:29 any comments about that
0:32 i'm not hearing or seeing any objections
0:34 so the minutes are approved as presented
0:38 uh the next item is public comment
0:41 isabel do we have anyone dare i ask
0:44 i saw connie mark joining earlier
0:49 but i'm trying to
0:51 find her again
0:55 because i saw her earlier but now i
0:59 can't see her
1:14 i just want to make sure i'm not missing
1:16 her i don't see her
1:19 in the oh okay i think i said connie i
1:22 am going to unmute you now for your
1:25 comments you have three minutes and i
1:29 will be
1:31 tracking the three minutes okay
1:36 you can speak now connie
1:41 can i have my picture up too please oh
1:44 yes
1:45 let me let me pause
1:47 sorry
2:04 if it's too hard i can go without my
2:06 picture
2:15 well why don't i start and if you
2:17 discover my picture there we go
2:20 okay let me let me just
2:22 reset the time again okay okay it's so
2:25 reassuring to know that my time is going
2:28 to be handled by the second
2:32 yeah that wasn't anyway my name is
2:34 connie marsh i live on squawk mountain
2:36 and um i have spoken before on these
2:40 street segments
2:42 and
2:44 i feel like it's just
2:46 sort of going nowhere so i thought i
2:47 would tell a short story and that is the
2:50 short story of newport way in bergsma
2:53 where we have a street profile that was
2:56 going to incl you can hear me
2:58 yes yes that was going to include a
3:01 sidewalk and a planter strip on both
3:04 sides of the road and we went to an open
3:06 house and basically public works
3:08 engineering said yes you have to have it
3:10 we can't change it and that was going to
3:13 make a cut in the hill and we were going
3:14 to lose significant numbers of trees of
3:17 the bergsma property that we had just
3:20 spent a gazillion dollars to protect
3:22 in the end
3:24 we were able not to have a sidewalk or a
3:27 planter strip on that side of the road
3:29 with the concept of an off-site trail
3:32 and so we were able to uphold our
3:35 environmental and our transportation so
3:37 when i see the conversation that you are
3:39 having on this profile it feels way
3:43 rigid it's like you shall do this
3:45 whether it makes sense or not so i want
3:48 to be sure that there is the flexibility
3:51 in this not to be purely stupid right
3:54 you don't want to cut down massive
3:57 slopes and trees to accommodate a
3:59 planter strip
4:00 that's
4:01 that's in this time that's
4:04 that's crazy talk
4:06 i need to see that flexibility built
4:10 into the code and you you all came up
4:12 with your criteria there that the
4:14 important things to you
4:16 but then because these profiles were the
4:19 same for environments for example
4:22 they don't really pertain i think all of
4:24 these things must pertain as we make
4:26 these decisions and then i'm moving on
4:28 to sound transit
4:30 because i only have three minutes uh
4:32 sound transit
4:35 the presentation sounds
4:37 like we are getting better service what
4:40 is happening is in theory we are getting
4:42 a more
4:44 often 554 but we don't get a straight
4:48 shot to seattle anymore we have to
4:50 transfer
4:51 in bellevue to take a train
4:53 and
4:56 is that better service no
4:59 and so in their portrayal they're making
5:01 it sound like those people around the
5:03 554 bus have eagerly awaited
5:08 having to change
5:11 counsel knows this
5:13 it needs to be expressed i don't know
5:15 about all the rest of the routes but
5:18 their presentation doesn't say that to
5:19 you outright so now you know and you can
5:22 comment on that as you see fit and i
5:25 think now my three minutes are up
5:27 or do i have one more second
5:30 no yes thank you
5:33 bye
5:38 isabelle do we have anybody else for
5:39 public comment
5:41 no we don't have it more okay so that
5:44 brings us uh to regular business and
5:47 john if you're ready
5:48 we can move on to item 4a
5:54 yes i am
5:56 i'll try and go quick so that way we can
5:59 try and get a little bit caught up on
6:01 schedule
6:03 on november 10th we held a joint meeting
6:06 between the parks board and
6:07 transportation advisory board to talk
6:09 about the mountains to sound greenway
6:11 corridor and the newport way maple the
6:14 sunset project and we talked about
6:17 the common values
6:19 that the central squad plan
6:21 the mobility master plan
6:23 and the parks strategic plan had and
6:26 discussed three different concepts and
6:28 i'll quickly
6:29 go over them there's one concept it was
6:32 concept a it's in your packet that it
6:35 shows
6:37 non-motorized facilities for bicyclists
6:39 and pedestrians on both sides of the
6:41 road
6:42 and the bicyclists and the pedestrians
6:44 would be separated
6:46 then concepts b and c showed shared use
6:48 paths
6:49 and
6:50 in the discussions
6:52 when we did the polling that
6:54 the preferred concept by the majority of
6:56 the attendees was concept a
6:59 which was the one where the bicyclists
7:01 and the pedestrians were separated and
7:03 then when we pulled the transportation
7:05 advisory board and the parks board
7:07 separately
7:09 the transportation advisory board
7:12 preferred concept a and
7:15 by a pretty good margin and the parks
7:17 board leaned towards concept b
7:20 based on the feedback that we got out of
7:22 that meeting
7:23 we put together a letter
7:26 with the intent to ask both boards to
7:29 endorse it
7:30 and there's also a section if there's
7:33 anything else that we missed that we
7:34 could include in it
7:35 and
7:37 so this
7:38 met with the
7:41 chair cynthia before the meeting to talk
7:43 about it and
7:46 and i don't know what's the right way to
7:48 go about proposing this but
7:51 what i'd like to do is if the tab would
7:54 support it
7:57 propose
7:58 um we can talk about it but
8:01 actually
8:02 authorizing the chairs of
8:04 the tab to meet with the
8:07 share of the earth
8:09 of the parks board to finalize the
8:11 letter if there's anything that needs to
8:14 re adjusted and then have you guys vote
8:16 on it at the december meeting and so
8:19 with that i'm going to turn it over to
8:20 cynthia
8:21 and
8:23 because i'm not sure if we need to make
8:24 a motion or how we go about doing that
8:26 or if you want to facilitate a
8:28 discussion but
8:30 that's what i've got i i think the first
8:32 thing that we should do so
8:35 we uh let's see
8:36 we don't want to create an additional
8:38 process if we don't need it so the first
8:40 thing i think we should do is
8:43 generally just open it up and go ahead
8:45 and use the chat to just say comment
8:50 and then go ahead and talk about whether
8:52 you generally are in um agreement
8:56 are you inclined to support the letter
8:58 or do you feel like you have something
9:00 to say about it and then let's handle
9:02 the highlighted editions
9:05 um separately so first question is
9:07 generally
9:09 um and jerry had a comment
9:14 and then after jerry micah go ahead
9:16 jerry
9:17 right i i just want to say that there
9:19 were 16 people voting
9:23 and the 56 and 44
9:26 is the 9-7
9:28 so it wasn't really that different
9:32 um there there were
9:34 and the other comment i wanted to make
9:37 i kind of voted for the shared youth
9:41 path
9:42 and then i was thinking about it some
9:44 more in the past week
9:46 and it's to me it seems like this you
9:50 know the
9:52 the uh
9:53 um the lake sammamish trail in a sense
9:56 that is the shared new path and so it's
10:00 important that the bicyclists are
10:02 respectful
10:03 of of the pedestrians and
10:06 by and large they are
10:09 and so
10:10 that gives everyone more space
10:14 if if it's a shared youth path going in
10:17 both directions and so that's another
10:20 reason why
10:21 i did
10:23 like it
10:24 and like i did read the letter earlier
10:27 this week and i you know
10:29 um i might send you some suggested edits
10:33 later but right now i have to find that
10:36 letter again
10:39 um that's all i had to say
10:43 uh micah why don't you go ahead
10:46 yeah so i just felt that
10:48 we didn't really have enough time to
10:50 actually discuss it it ended up just
10:52 being you know our initial input and
10:55 maybe a small amount of discussion and
10:59 i actually had did change my opinion
11:00 during the uh discussion but
11:04 you know the votes as as
11:07 jay pointed out that's not a huge
11:09 difference when we're talking just
11:12 two people um you know one person
11:14 changed their vote would have balanced
11:15 it out right uh so
11:17 i guess i i would prefer to see more
11:21 discussion before we make a
11:23 recommendation and ideally get to a
11:26 point where we felt that there was
11:29 clearly one better option as opposed to
11:31 sort of like well not c but
11:34 you know between the two of them we just
11:36 didn't get enough time to
11:40 decide real quick um isabelle did you
11:43 see joseph's note
11:46 joseph is waiting to be yeah and right
11:48 now i was about to send a text because i
11:52 am having issues finding him
11:54 um on the on the list of participants
11:58 and that's why i haven't been able
12:00 to promote him as panelists
12:06 okay
12:08 oh okay i think he's dropping out and
12:10 and joining again to see if that changes
12:12 something
12:14 okay
12:17 erica why don't you go ahead
12:20 i think my question with uh before we
12:23 send something was did
12:25 is the desired outcome like a
12:28 because right now it seems like we're
12:29 split right like we
12:31 the my read of the current letter is
12:32 that we endorse
12:33 both because we were
12:35 like it was kind of too close of a vote
12:37 like people are saying nine to seven
12:38 do they want us to make a singular
12:40 decision like and endorse just one or is
12:43 that is that okay because i wasn't i
12:46 i going into this i didn't know that was
12:47 an okay option to present you know like
12:50 we eliminated one of the three and
12:51 here's the two that are preferred so i
12:54 think i'm just
12:55 curious of what council and the mayor is
12:58 specifically wanting from us if we're
13:00 yeah
13:02 well
13:03 the way i wrote the letter that's in the
13:06 agenda is
13:08 not to
13:10 have either board indoors it just said
13:12 that when we pulled the tab at the time
13:16 this was the result and when we pulled
13:18 the park sport at the time but i
13:20 purposely didn't have it so that way
13:24 the tab or the parks board would
13:28 take a formal boat because what i
13:30 thought was the more valuable part was
13:33 the comments where we talked about
13:36 what the priorities and what the
13:38 concerns were and so for example safety
13:41 was the top priority and one of the
13:43 concerns was how would the bicycles and
13:45 the pedestrians interact and
13:49 i believe that the next step is to then
13:51 go back to the design team and to say
13:54 safety is the top priority
13:57 and
13:58 with that is the concern of how are the
14:01 pedestrians and the bicyclists going to
14:04 interact and then engineer the solution
14:07 rather than having the boards try and
14:09 come up with
14:11 what the right solution is
14:13 and so that's why the letter focused
14:15 more on the discussion and the
14:18 priorities and the values and the
14:19 polling was just to kind of gauge where
14:22 people were at but
14:24 not to try and nail it down specifically
14:27 especially because
14:29 i don't want a situation where we
14:30 formally have the tab vote and it's one
14:33 alternative and formally have the parks
14:35 board or vote and it's another instead
14:38 want to focus on the concerns
14:40 and the values and then try and engineer
14:43 a solution that meets those that may be
14:46 slightly different than a or b
14:50 okay that's super helpful then yeah i
14:51 feel like the um goals were a bit better
14:55 accomplished than my framing of it in my
14:57 mind
15:01 thanks erica um i think i'm next on the
15:04 comment and i guess i'm just going to
15:05 say that i probably should have started
15:07 a little bit to back up a little bit but
15:11 i can tell you
15:12 that ideally
15:14 when this extra a couple things about
15:16 the process this when this exercise
15:18 started
15:19 i think that there was um
15:22 there was
15:23 it would have been great if we could
15:24 reach consensus and then we could pass
15:27 that on to the decision maker so
15:28 remember we're an advisory board right
15:30 it's in the name so so sometimes um so
15:34 what i discovered in the meeting we had
15:36 last week was we kind of missed a step
15:39 and we didn't go into that meeting with
15:42 a joint we went into that meeting
15:43 informed
15:44 as individuals but we never when we
15:46 didn't we didn't really go into that
15:48 meeting and hash out do we have a point
15:50 of view um and are we do we have a
15:52 consensus among our own group and so as
15:55 i was watching the media unfold i
15:56 realized that we didn't have a consensus
15:59 and then um we can kind of drive
16:00 ourselves crazy and try to get to the
16:02 point where we have consensus but i
16:04 would suggest that because we are an
16:07 advisory board sometimes the advice is
16:10 it's a mixed bag
16:12 you know we don't have a uni you know
16:14 consensus you guys gotta earn your
16:16 earn your keep and go ahead and decide
16:19 and we've done the best we can to give
16:20 you the advice that we have it wasn't
16:22 unified
16:23 that's as useful as the unified
16:27 and then i think that john did a good
16:29 job teasing out the values
16:32 and i think that by and in that in that
16:35 way we were united
16:37 and um and i and i think that what john
16:39 is doing is very wise is and that is
16:44 leaving the design process because
16:46 remember it's really confusing because
16:48 we're being shown concepts they're not
16:50 really designs they just have to move
16:51 the process along and they can't they've
16:53 got to have something to bid you know to
16:55 go to the next step
16:57 and so
16:58 the letter gives us a little bit of
17:01 latitude to let them
17:03 go back to those values and see if they
17:05 can
17:06 hit you know get something that um
17:08 speaks to exactly the values
17:11 understanding the um
17:13 you know that where everybody stood um
17:16 so uh julian if you could can you use
17:18 the chat just go ahead and put your put
17:20 a um
17:21 that it's easy for me to keep track when
17:23 people log in in the chat so um
17:26 i just was gonna say that i would
17:28 suggest that the letter does the best
17:30 that we can do at this point the
17:32 alternative would be
17:34 if we all felt and the staff felt like
17:36 it was useful for us to hash out have
17:39 more discussion come to a vote
17:41 and put together put forth something
17:43 that has been voted on but because we're
17:45 an advisory board i think just advising
17:47 them that this um
17:49 back and forth is probably that's really
17:52 what we're here for and it's probably
17:53 sufficient
17:55 but
17:56 it sounds like julian
17:58 is next and then
18:01 others can comment as well thanks
18:04 yeah i definitely agree with cynthia um
18:07 especially when it comes to the various
18:09 concepts
18:11 that it doesn't need to be
18:13 strongly in favor of one concept or the
18:15 other so i think it's just going to be
18:16 really useful
18:18 for the design team when they are
18:20 looking at these various
18:21 values that we're proposing
18:24 so i think that's the most valuable part
18:26 of this letter
18:27 and especially as we go forward and
18:30 you know do the further considerations
18:32 part and vote on those things as well
18:35 those will be the two most useful things
18:37 here
18:42 i think most of you had a chance to say
18:45 your piece um and i don't disagree with
18:47 anything especially with how you started
18:49 off micah
18:50 but given the role of the letter at this
18:53 point
18:54 i guess i'll just say i would entertain
18:56 emotion
18:58 well
18:58 i guess i would say i would entertain a
19:00 motion to endorse the letter
19:04 and i'm not sure exactly how to handle
19:06 the
19:06 do we want to use that space
19:09 sorry before i entertain a motion i just
19:11 want to say that i expressed to john
19:13 concern about endorsing the letter
19:16 until we've seen the parks
19:19 language that they're going to put in
19:21 and so
19:23 isabelle had a good idea of that we
19:25 could make a motion we could do a couple
19:26 things we could we could kick the can
19:28 down the road we could see what they say
19:29 and then bring it back in december i
19:30 don't know if that works with the timing
19:33 with staff we could also if everyone
19:35 seems to be generally in favor
19:37 we could approve it
19:39 um with the caveat that um
19:43 allowing the chair
19:45 to um
19:48 upon approval of
19:49 the final review by one person or it
19:52 doesn't have to be the chair it could be
19:53 you know one or two people to kind of
19:54 make a smaller group to be able to put
19:56 the final
19:57 okay on as long as there's no
19:59 substantive change but i just wasn't
20:01 comfortable
20:02 fully endorsing the letter until i saw
20:04 what the park sport was going to add
20:06 and then the other matter is do we want
20:08 to add anything i don't i thought about
20:11 adding something and i read it again and
20:12 i read it again and i decided that
20:14 everything i wanted to add was already
20:15 in there but i don't know if other
20:17 people disagree so um let's parse these
20:20 into bits sorry it's it's
20:22 these things are getting conflated first
20:24 question is does anyone feel strongly
20:26 that we should put additional language
20:30 that space that's highlighted
20:35 i feel like we should add one more uh
20:37 when it comes to the roundabouts
20:40 um and separation of uses there
20:43 because ideally we shouldn't have
20:46 uh you know walking people and and
20:49 bikers uh
20:50 go in the same
20:52 uh crosswalk or crossing ideally you
20:55 should have two different tracks for
20:58 that crossing
21:01 so that's just my thought kind of like
21:02 the dutch style of roundabouts
21:10 does anyone else have anything they'd
21:11 like to see in these extra comments
21:14 jerry you i thought you were nodding are
21:16 you just
21:16 nodding in agreement
21:22 i i read the letter early last week and
21:24 i i guess maybe i only read it once and
21:27 and so i'm a little
21:29 and and so it's my fault i apologize i i
21:32 guess i don't know exactly what's in the
21:34 letter so i'm probably not
21:36 able to comment really well
21:41 i i do agree with julian i'm really um
21:45 always super concerned about how
21:47 cyclists and other users get spit out
21:49 into crosswalks at roundabouts but i
21:51 want to make sure we're not too
21:52 prescriptive
21:53 so could we say with the design process
21:55 could we say um the tab
21:59 i mean safety is the number one if you
22:01 look at goals and principles
22:03 safety is the number one
22:05 uh listed
22:07 key
22:08 goal and
22:10 in the mobility master plan and
22:13 so i think maybe we could put some
22:14 language in there about safety
22:16 considering safety
22:17 uh at the intersections when the
22:19 roundabouts are designed
22:23 so what i'm hearing is that's the only
22:27 comment we might want to add
22:29 i'm not hearing anyone else objecting to
22:32 endorsing the letter at this time given
22:34 the fact that we're just trying to give
22:36 advice about the problem and not
22:39 we haven't come to up to it
22:41 we haven't
22:42 agreed to a solution and a letter
22:43 doesn't have a solution it just provides
22:46 our thinking
22:48 and then
22:49 then i guess if that's the case i would
22:51 entertain a motion that
22:52 and maybe i would suggest that we
22:55 leave the specific language to
22:58 one or two the approval of one or two
23:00 people
23:01 that we can then um
23:04 noodle on this in the next couple of
23:06 days rather than have to reconvene as a
23:07 full group
23:13 before a second um
23:15 no i'm not making emotion i can't make
23:17 motions i'm entertaining emotion i'm
23:19 encouraging one of you to make a motion
23:22 i would um you were saying that um
23:25 you know separation uses language is too
23:27 prescriptional uh why is that in your
23:30 view
23:31 uh you mentioned the dutch you mentioned
23:33 so so
23:35 uh i
23:38 don't know how they're gonna be designed
23:39 so i just think i just can't quite wrap
23:42 my head around that and it's not the
23:43 time to wrap my head around precisely
23:46 that and i want to leave
23:48 that open to the people who do that for
23:50 a living
23:53 because yeah i just it's
23:56 it's hard for me to wrap my head around
23:57 exactly how that would be
24:00 but i but i share that value and so
24:02 that's why
24:03 that's why i suggested safety
24:05 the number one
24:07 and specifically safety of how they
24:09 enter the intersection
24:13 calling out that specific
24:15 conflict point go ahead john sorry yeah
24:18 well what i was thinking is
24:21 that
24:22 i'm not sure the exact words but
24:29 the design of the
24:32 the crossings
24:34 needs careful consideration or which
24:37 in reality the reason why i didn't
24:38 actually have us discuss
24:40 the crossings is from a safety point of
24:42 view that is the most critical and needs
24:45 to be engineered and
24:48 just wanting to keep
24:49 the boards in an advisory
24:52 type role and then when we actually
24:54 design the crossings
24:56 that's where the technical engineering
24:58 comes into play
24:59 where
25:01 and that's
25:02 really from a risk point of view the
25:05 crossing is when the
25:07 pedestrians and the bicyclists are most
25:10 vulnerable and that is where we're going
25:13 to be paying the most amount of tension
25:15 and
25:16 so that's why
25:17 i prefer a generic comment to give us
25:20 the flexibility to then find the
25:22 solution and engineer it but it's
25:25 probably the most critical thing that we
25:27 will design on the whole project
25:30 right not probably it is the most
25:31 critical thing and the most important
25:33 thing that we will design on that
25:34 project
25:39 well
25:41 even if that may be already in your mind
25:43 it doesn't hurt for this board to put
25:45 that language into this letter does
25:47 everybody agree with that
25:48 yeah
25:49 yeah no i i like the idea of adding that
25:52 language in there and
25:53 i think he has an advisory board that
25:55 really states that this is a very high
25:57 important priority and
25:59 that we need to pay attention to it
26:02 would you be okay with separation of
26:03 uses
26:05 in terms of broad language or
26:08 is that too specific for design purposes
26:11 well
26:12 i would prefer for the language to be
26:15 more generic
26:16 but i do completely get what you're
26:18 saying about separating it at crossings
26:20 and
26:24 but for what the actual solution is
26:27 that's where we really need to sit down
26:30 i've got a few ideas in my head but i
26:32 really need to talk to the consultant
26:34 but
26:35 it'll
26:37 it'll be the one thing where we don't
26:39 try and cut costs
26:40 and it'll be the one thing where
26:43 we'll spend the most amount of time on
26:45 in terms of actually trying to get right
26:53 okay so when you say separation of uses
26:56 julian do you mean um between bikes and
26:59 heads because to me the biggest issue at
27:01 those intersections are conflicts with
27:04 vehicles
27:05 and so i'm afraid if we specify
27:06 separation of uses that might get lost
27:10 right um
27:12 well i'm specifying you know
27:15 for example at the basicoflc roundabouts
27:19 that are recently put in especially when
27:21 you're coming up that hill from the you
27:23 know the new yeah
27:25 it makes you go on to the sidewalk
27:28 and then it makes you
27:30 go kind of deep inside and then cross
27:32 that crosswalk and you never know if
27:34 there's going to be
27:35 a car just zooming zooming through
27:39 or if you there's going to be a
27:40 pedestrian there as well
27:42 so that's kind of my concern i would
27:44 like it to be
27:46 you know the
27:47 walking people they go
27:49 deeper in the roundabouts and then
27:51 cycling they go kind of more shallower
27:53 but that's a very specific design
27:55 prescription but
27:57 i'm not suggesting that we adopt that
27:58 language
28:00 but yeah i hear ya i i think we're on
28:03 the same page with the uh concern
28:05 because i know exactly which i know
28:06 exactly what you're talking about and
28:08 it's a terrible choice when you enter a
28:10 roundabout you decide whether you jump
28:12 in traffic or
28:14 suddenly being a very awkward position
28:16 so yeah so it sounds like maybe you're
28:19 something and you'd be willing to uh
28:22 so somebody gonna make a motion that we
28:24 uh we don't have to but we should
28:26 probably wrap up we should either make a
28:28 motion or move on
28:29 somebody want to make a motion or
28:31 suggest we move on
28:33 i'll make motion i guess
28:37 i'm so sorry to derail this
28:39 what
28:40 are we
28:41 proposing that because you wanted to see
28:43 the parks uh letter or the language that
28:45 they add
28:48 wouldn't do we know do we have a
28:49 timeline for that i was proposing that
28:52 you give
28:53 one or two people is part of the motion
28:57 say
28:58 subject to the approval of so you
29:01 basically pass it
29:03 but add a little language that says
29:06 subject to the approval of the
29:09 one or two people
29:10 um when the letter is finalized
29:15 leaving
29:16 the chance to um
29:19 then delegating that authority to move
29:21 the process along without having to
29:22 reconvene
29:23 but also having us
29:26 a catch you know a
29:29 place to catch it and
29:31 if it doesn't if we don't like that like
29:32 if we're concerned about that language
29:34 so that would be the suggestion um
29:37 and the other option is just to is to
29:40 table it but the um
29:42 yeah so when somebody needs makes a
29:45 motion they need to say what the action
29:47 is and i'm suggesting the action be um
29:50 endorse the letter
29:51 i'm suggesting that but this is my role
29:53 is to facilitate it's not to
29:55 to uh
29:57 be too heavy-handed with that so um
29:59 only do that if that's where you guys
30:01 are feeling
30:02 like we're ready
30:06 okay i think i can make a motion because
30:09 now i'm basically regular member um
30:13 so i make the motion to
30:16 uh approve
30:18 or endorse this letter
30:20 subject to park's
30:22 recommendation as well
30:25 and add language
30:26 pertaining to safety
30:29 with pedestrians and cyclists at the
30:32 roundabouts
30:34 second
30:42 [Music]
30:44 i'm just a little confused about
30:46 i don't know how precise we need to be
30:49 about the park board
30:53 i've been trained to say that friendly
30:55 amendments aren't literally a thing
30:57 but i'm just wondering maybe this is
31:00 discussion sorry i'm not
31:03 so i guess maybe i should say any
31:04 discussion yes i have discussion i'm a
31:06 little confused about what you meant
31:08 exactly by the park board if you want to
31:09 be precise and i would love to see that
31:11 language
31:12 in the motion tightened up to be
31:14 specifically what we mean and subject to
31:16 um an individual's approval of
31:20 the there's no substantive change based
31:22 on what the park board
31:24 said sorry now this got really clunky
31:26 but
31:28 we just heard what individual
31:30 i was trying to adopt your language what
31:32 you were saying before
31:34 um with the park board and having two
31:36 people
31:37 something like that
31:39 i meant from this committee i just want
31:42 to make sure we get to
31:44 see what they write before we
31:47 say for sure
31:49 okay in that case just
31:52 change the language of this motion
31:54 to that
31:56 to that
31:57 i don't know
31:58 we're getting closer aren't we isabelle
31:59 do you have something to read back to us
32:01 do you need to withdraw the motion
32:04 oh yeah let's just clean it up let's
32:07 yes i think you're right micah
32:10 okay with
32:12 do i withdraw i think so can i withdraw
32:14 the motion
32:18 and then go ahead and make it again
32:21 sorry it seems it's so painful but i
32:24 just think it's important for us to get
32:25 in the habit of doing it correctly
32:27 if i make a motion to
32:30 endorse this ledger upon receiving word
32:34 from the parks board and having
32:36 two members of the transportation
32:38 advisory board
32:40 consider that what parks board added
32:43 onto that letter
32:44 uh and having
32:46 an ad some language pertaining to safety
32:50 at roundabouts when it comes to cyclists
32:53 and pedestrians crossing and entering
32:56 the round about
32:58 well second
33:01 any discussion
33:05 do we
33:07 know who the individuals are do we need
33:09 to like appoint those folks or is it
33:11 just whoever gets emails first we're so
33:13 close
33:14 probably
33:21 well we don't we don't have to
33:23 emotionally you don't have to i agree
33:24 with my gut
33:27 i'm fine with that i just didn't want
33:28 this to be like a confusing process and
33:30 then this letter is now in limbo and
33:31 then it we just end up approving it in
33:33 our december meeting
33:35 thank you eric i appreciate that but i
33:37 think mike is right
33:39 so all those in favor
33:42 aye
33:43 aye anything i'm not seeing any no
33:46 opposed
33:50 i would suggest what i've done with
33:51 stuff like this is you just make a
33:53 record um does somebody want to suggest
33:55 who those two people are uh and that the
33:57 motion doesn't require us to have those
33:59 two people but if we put on the record
34:01 like that the
34:03 board
34:04 suggested it be so and so and so and so
34:08 i'm happy to do it
34:10 maybe julian and i should do it does
34:12 anybody else want to do it
34:13 i recommend that it be the chair and
34:15 julian okay
34:18 so i think we can probably get away with
34:20 just leaving that um
34:22 as maybe just make a record that
34:23 everyone seemed to be in agreement that
34:25 that was the right two people
34:30 that was a lot clunkier than it was
34:33 yeah these uh these
34:34 first of all joint board things are
34:36 important but how they're you know it's
34:38 hard um
34:40 and we were trying to do multiple things
34:42 and i think for me the takeaway is that
34:43 um we probably should have spent a
34:45 little more time coming together as a
34:47 board
34:48 before we met with the parks and we did
34:51 get informed but we didn't leave time
34:53 for um discussion and debate and that
34:56 was i think kind of where we got off
34:57 track to begin with but i i think it was
35:00 a robust discussion i think we got a lot
35:01 of substantive material on the table
35:04 and
35:05 even though it wasn't smooth i think we
35:06 ended up in a good spot
35:11 i think that
35:12 is there anything else we need on that
35:14 john it's metro people fall you think
35:17 we're a bunch of morons
35:19 i'm good
35:20 thanks everyone
35:23 okay well that
35:25 brings us to the metro update and we'll
35:27 be turning it over to
35:29 sound transit or will there be a staff
35:31 person to turn this over to or
35:34 i'm not sure who's taking this
35:37 brian i just handed it the presentation
35:40 to you
35:42 and thank you for your patience
35:44 transit folks
35:46 oh no no problem uh thank you very much
35:48 for having us tonight
35:49 uh thanks for hanging over the
35:50 presentation um my name is brian henry i
35:53 work in metro service planning group i
35:55 am the lead planner for the east side of
35:57 king county
35:59 and i'm also a co-project manager for
36:02 this bus restructure effort
36:04 so i will share my screen here
36:13 all right i think that should be up and
36:14 running here
36:18 so um yeah i'm just gonna get things
36:20 kicked off here um
36:22 and uh you know again like say how much
36:25 we're excited to come here and talk
36:26 about this project um it's a it's a
36:29 really it's a really exciting time um
36:31 and so with that i'll just jump right
36:32 into kind of a quick overview of our
36:34 agenda here
36:35 um so we're going to talk a little bit
36:36 about the the program goals um the scope
36:39 of the project
36:40 and then a little bit about the timeline
36:42 um and then we'll touch on
36:44 um just a quick uh overview of link
36:47 light rail and then we'll kind of get
36:49 into the um the meat of our presentation
36:52 where we want to discuss
36:54 uh the engagement that we did and
36:57 the proposed changes
36:59 and then we'll move through that and
37:01 have some time for for questions and
37:03 discussion
37:05 so i'll hand it over to uh my
37:07 counterpart jr
37:09 hello everybody this is jr alexander
37:11 from sound transit apparently coming to
37:13 you from the 1930s because i'm in black
37:15 and white here so
37:16 nice to meet you everybody so let's get
37:19 into the goals of the project right so
37:22 our project has three main tenants um to
37:24 improve
37:25 improve service inform engage and
37:28 empower our passengers and to deliver a
37:30 world-class regional transportation
37:32 system right so let's start with the
37:34 first part which is to improve so our
37:36 the main priority in our project is
37:38 equity like that's that's at the
37:40 forefront of what we do so we want to
37:42 improve mobility for priority
37:44 populations and that's defined as our
37:46 bipod communities so that's our black
37:48 indigenous other persons of color and
37:50 other vulnerable communities you know
37:52 low income refugee
37:55 any other you know ill-affected
37:57 communities that normally don't have a
37:59 sea at the table when we make decisions
38:01 like this right so that kind of leads us
38:03 into informed engagement and power so
38:05 being able to have that equitable
38:08 community engagement being able to put
38:10 the power into people's hands right so
38:12 as you'll see as we talk about a little
38:14 later in the
38:15 presentation
38:16 about the mobility board how that came
38:18 to be and how they've had to you know
38:22 how they have had a hand and um helping
38:24 to shape this network as well as the
38:26 surveys and different things like that
38:27 but again making sure that everybody has
38:29 a c in the table and providing their
38:31 feedback and what their network is going
38:34 to be
38:34 and then from there we deliver right and
38:37 so what exactly are we delivering we're
38:38 delivering an integrated system that
38:41 responds really well to
38:43 link and other high capacity transit
38:45 extensions right
38:46 um another big component of this is
38:49 minimizing duplicative bus service
38:52 whenever we open up link
38:54 link or stride or any other high
38:56 capacity system
38:57 improving connections whether it be
38:59 standing connections making new
39:01 collection connections into link light
39:03 rail or any other high-capacity transit
39:05 system and being
39:07 consistent with not only metro connects
39:09 in their mobility program but as well as
39:11 the sound transits network plan and any
39:13 other current future mobility needs that
39:15 we may have come
39:16 and next slide
39:20 thanks jr
39:22 i think we're getting some feedback here
39:24 that your slide is a little bit cut off
39:26 here brian oh is it yeah yeah there's a
39:29 little there we go we're good we're good
39:31 is that good
39:32 okay great yeah let me know if it's not
39:34 coming through
39:35 um so here we'll take a quick look at
39:37 the study area
39:39 um this map uh highlights the huge
39:42 breadth of the study area
39:44 and the many cities within it
39:46 the area was defined by study
39:49 area routes which were selected based on
39:52 their proximity to new stations or
39:57 the pathway of the link light rail
39:59 and it really is it illustrates the
40:02 transformational nature of 12 new
40:05 stations with 11 spread across the east
40:07 side
40:08 and the opportunity to enhance mobility
40:11 among many neighborhoods work centers as
40:14 well as to and from link light rail
40:18 so i'm going to switch slides and uh
40:20 hand this over to gunner to talk a
40:21 little bit about engagement
40:25 thanks brian um and thank you everyone
40:26 for having us appreciate it also really
40:28 loved hearing your conversation about
40:30 roundabouts as someone who did a lot of
40:31 neighborhood work so totally appreciated
40:34 that and um we just want to talk a
40:36 little bit about engagement so we've
40:38 been working on this project now for uh
40:39 it's been almost a year um
40:42 we did a phase one needs assessment so
40:44 we talked to community stakeholders um
40:47 as well as uh did a survey um to really
40:50 just understand what are the needs and
40:51 priorities for community members um in
40:54 the areas that these 42 bus lines are
40:56 going to um
40:58 possibly change um and from there uh
41:01 worked with our service planning team
41:02 with brian
41:04 to really develop those concepts and we
41:05 did another round of surveying um and
41:08 this and along with that uh we did quite
41:10 a bit outreach including sending out
41:12 postcards and things like that um to get
41:14 folks to give us some feedback about
41:16 what they thought of the potential
41:17 concepts that came up we also did a
41:19 number of virtual sessions with folks um
41:21 and now we're coming up on phase three
41:23 which will open in early february um
41:26 we'll bring out that final service
41:27 proposal and again um have an
41:29 opportunity for the public to give us
41:31 feedback through a survey through those
41:33 virtual meetings um
41:34 we love doing more in-person engagement
41:37 and typically that's what we do but
41:38 because of covid we've had to really
41:40 change things up since many of you have
41:42 done um and we're still trying to figure
41:44 that out as we go along and always look
41:46 to partnering with community um
41:49 groups and jurisdictions on the best way
41:51 to reach people so if you have any ideas
41:53 around that or
41:54 things like that please do let us know
41:56 and we'd love to just make that happen
41:58 so um and then from there we'll be
42:01 sending the ordinance and the package
42:02 over to king county council and also to
42:04 the sound transit board
42:06 and as brian talked this this process
42:08 takes a little bit over two years and
42:10 then we'll get to launch which is super
42:12 exciting we just started talking to our
42:13 marketing department about that
42:21 um and so i'm just going to kind of talk
42:23 a little bit more about the link to line
42:27 that's you know east link and downtown
42:28 redmond link extensions that will be the
42:30 name once complete
42:32 the two line is the 12 stations that are
42:34 connecting redmond bellevue mercer
42:36 island and seattle jetkins park to the
42:39 one line at the chinatown international
42:41 district station before heading north to
42:43 northgate and then by 2024 to linwood
42:47 there's also a chance to transfer south
42:49 to destinations like seatac
42:51 the line will also have an additional
42:53 1400 parking spaces along the route
42:56 as well as an operation and maintenance
42:58 facility center or an omf on the east
43:01 side which is under construction in the
43:03 spring district station and it's going
43:05 to service the growing fleet of light
43:07 rail vehicles that we're going to be
43:08 using on that east side
43:10 link headways for the two line on the
43:12 east side during peak period will be
43:14 every eight minutes
43:16 um and through the downtown core both
43:19 line one and line two will have um
43:22 every four minutes during
43:25 service during peak
43:27 so additionally uh projected travel
43:30 times to places such as downtown redmond
43:32 to bellevue will be 18 minutes seattle
43:34 to bellevue will be 23 minutes and south
43:37 bellevue to seatac airport will be 50
43:39 minutes
43:41 next slide please
43:45 so um what does that mean this is kind
43:47 of a visual representation of the
43:49 benefits of light rail for example one
43:52 for car light rail train carries up to
43:54 800 people
43:56 that's the same about
43:57 about 500 cars or 10 buses
44:00 so if you want to put it another way
44:02 light rail can carry up to about 12 000
44:04 people per hour
44:05 which you would need 150 buses to carry
44:07 the same volume of passengers and this
44:10 is all while traveling through a
44:11 dedicated or a semi-dedicated
44:13 right-of-way so it doesn't really deal
44:15 with the same traffic that a bus or a
44:17 car would on the road
44:19 and i'm going to hand it over to gunner
44:21 who's going to kind of talk about um
44:22 phase one and phase two engagement
44:24 highlights
44:25 thanks valerie um so one of the unique
44:28 things about this project as well is
44:29 that sound transit and metro are working
44:32 very much together so valerie is with
44:34 sound transit i'm with metro we both do
44:35 community engagement and share those
44:37 resources
44:38 um and so we have been partnering with
44:40 uh service planning around this
44:42 like i said we did stakeholder
44:44 interviews to understand the needs and
44:45 priorities and brian will talk a little
44:47 bit about that we also convene what we
44:49 call a mobility board and that is made
44:51 up of community members who work
44:53 alongside service planning and community
44:55 engagement to
44:56 talk about those needs and priorities
44:58 make sure that we're addressing those as
45:00 much as possible and they're reviewing
45:02 these proposals as we move along so
45:04 we've been working with them for a few
45:06 months now we'll be coming back together
45:08 to share the engagement that we learned
45:10 like we did with phase one um so that's
45:12 one of the things that happened in our
45:14 phase one along with working with a
45:15 partner review board which is made up of
45:18 large employers small employers
45:20 jurisdictions and other
45:22 institutions including community-based
45:24 organizations educational institutions
45:28 so trying to again get the word out
45:30 there get as much feedback and
45:32 information from the community as
45:34 possible and all the different ways that
45:36 can happen
45:37 next slide please
45:40 so we just finished our phase two as i
45:42 mentioned
45:43 and we
45:45 usually we do uh in-person engagement
45:48 like i talked about but we moved to
45:49 virtual briefings um and we did get over
45:52 350 participants for the various
45:54 meetings that we've been doing we've
45:56 actually we're still doing some of those
45:57 with our community groups um we also
46:00 have
46:01 launched a digital and epic media ad
46:03 campaigns and much of the work that we
46:05 did in phase two we're gonna do again in
46:07 phase three um one of the things that
46:09 has been really
46:10 interesting for us is that we received
46:13 um typically we don't see many surveys
46:16 in other languages other than english
46:17 sometimes spanish but for this
46:19 particular one well it says one percent
46:21 we actually received 22 in korean and 33
46:24 in chinese and that's the highest i've
46:26 ever seen since i've been at metro of
46:28 surveys in language so that was pretty
46:30 exciting for us and we're looking
46:31 forward to hopefully continuing uh that
46:33 rise and um getting that done and um
46:38 we will again
46:40 um we may depending on what covid looks
46:43 like in a few months we might be able to
46:44 integrate some in-person engagement um
46:47 and if not we'll continue with the
46:48 digital that we've been doing
46:51 and i'll hand it back to brian i believe
46:54 yeah thanks a lot gunner so here i'd
46:56 like to highlight an important part of
46:58 our engagement um as gunner mentioned
47:00 we've convened a 26-member advisory
47:03 board of residents in or near the study
47:06 area including uh two from issaquah
47:09 so we spent a series of meetings getting
47:11 in depth with this board on transit
47:12 network uh the conditions out there as
47:15 well as their experiences both in the
47:17 community and moving around
47:19 in the community so this really helps us
47:21 understand the study area more deeply
47:24 and then for the different regions of
47:26 the study area the um the board defines
47:30 specific priorities so
47:31 the ones shown here are for the area
47:34 around issaquah and the i-90 corridor or
47:37 the east part of the study area
47:39 and then in addition to our project
47:41 goals these priority needs are important
47:43 because they played a strong role in
47:45 guiding um the proposed changes that we
47:48 developed
47:49 as as well as other engagement that
47:50 gunner talked about and so now that
47:53 we're in this phase two um we're
47:55 gathering feedback for those changes um
47:57 and that's one of the reasons we're here
47:58 today um so we're gonna we're gonna jump
48:00 now into a map of the proposed area
48:04 and talk about some of those
48:06 uh changes and benefits
48:09 so i'll kick this over to jr to um like
48:11 first uh start off with some sound
48:13 transit um roots
48:15 right so as you all know well we can
48:18 just go ahead and get the other found
48:19 now so we can talk about our route 554
48:23 as some may know the 554 is going to go
48:26 a little bit of a change for what we can
48:28 see for today so it will still
48:31 service uh missile service is a quads we
48:33 know it um we're gonna make a little bit
48:35 of a change locally we're gonna actually
48:37 send a bus
48:39 after hearing some feedback we're
48:40 actually going to um do some
48:42 modifications
48:43 it won't necessarily go to downtown
48:45 seattle
48:46 the 1c ride will change a bit so it's
48:49 going to actually service um
48:51 my headscarf here it's going to actually
48:53 serve um south bellevue and downtown
48:55 bellevue uh link stations
48:58 continuing over the
49:00 soon to be the party 550 so once link
49:03 opens in 2023 the 550 will go away
49:06 and the 554 will overtake his routing um
49:09 from eastgate to bellevue way via i-90
49:13 and service south bellevue and uh
49:15 downtown bellevue uh stations
49:18 now in issaquah we're also looking to
49:21 shift the service over to gilman because
49:22 we under gilman road because we
49:24 understand that there's going to be a
49:25 lot of
49:26 expansion a lot of growth in that area
49:29 and we want to make sure that
49:31 though there's no longer a one-seat ride
49:32 we're getting like we're making the best
49:34 of the route as we can by serving as
49:35 many people as we can and getting to
49:37 local destinations just as much as
49:39 getting them quicker into downtown
49:41 seattle or into seattle period
49:43 via south bellevue right so that's one
49:46 of the major changes along with the 554
49:49 and that kind of takes care of our i-90
49:50 corridor
49:51 um and i can kick it back over to brian
49:54 who has a little bit more to add answer
49:57 sure thanks jr i'm going to talk a
49:59 little bit about some of the metro
50:00 routes here
50:01 um the first route i want to highlight
50:03 is the the gray route um on this map
50:05 which is the route 269 um that travels
50:08 through some amish and then um
50:10 into issaquah and um this this will now
50:14 connect with link um at mercer island
50:17 um as well as uh to southeast redmond
50:20 station in redmond um so it will it will
50:23 also see an increased frequency during
50:26 the peak period of the day on the
50:27 weekdays and in the evenings
50:30 and then also on top of that we're
50:32 adding more service to this route on
50:35 sundays it doesn't have service right
50:36 now so we're going to mirror the
50:37 saturday service
50:39 so overall this does create more local
50:42 access in issaquah as well as bringing
50:44 folks to the uh to the link light rail
50:48 next there's a new route i want to
50:49 highlight um and that is the route 215.
50:53 um which on on this map here is uh
50:57 it's the line that really follows um the
51:00 it's like an aqua line that follows um
51:03 takes over what the 208 was doing but
51:05 mainly goes from issaquah to mercer
51:09 island
51:10 and it replaces the express routes
51:12 except for the 218 which will still be
51:15 there
51:16 and this route connecting to mercer
51:18 island it will run all day in both
51:20 directions which is a big upgrade in
51:23 terms of flexibility and access from
51:25 these peak routes which only really go
51:27 in one direction for just a portion of
51:29 the day
51:31 and it's going to be also 15 minute
51:32 frequency during the peak and 30 minutes
51:35 for the rest of the day
51:36 and also 30 minutes on the weekend so
51:38 that's a another time that these peak
51:40 routes didn't serve
51:42 but then there's a 218 which
51:45 again will also connect at mercer island
51:47 from issaquah but it will remain a peak
51:50 route um during with 15 minute frequency
51:53 and that's to make sure during the
51:54 commute times there'll be lots of um
51:56 lots of frequent connections to the link
51:58 so together um the 218 and the 215 and
52:02 the 269 are kind of the new like trunk
52:05 from issaquah to connect to link um that
52:08 means they'll be um a bus every five
52:10 minutes during the peak um and every 15
52:13 minutes all day um connecting to link
52:15 right at mercer island um so so those
52:19 are like the major changes on that
52:21 corridor and then finally i'll end with
52:23 another new route um this is the route
52:25 203
52:27 uh which which is shown
52:30 which is shown here on this map as the
52:32 the gold line that's south of i-90 um
52:36 and this is going to create uh new local
52:38 connections in issaquah but also a new
52:41 connection to factoria um and then also
52:43 connecting to link
52:45 at south bellevue
52:47 so that's like kind of a quick overview
52:49 of um of some of the of some of the
52:51 improvements and changes that we've made
52:53 um and i'm gonna i'm gonna switch this
52:55 next slide
52:56 and i've i've talked a lot um but like i
52:59 just want to pause here on this slide
53:00 because it really summarizes uh the key
53:03 changes and benefits but it also
53:06 um shows how these changes connect back
53:09 to what we heard from our mobility board
53:12 and overall i mean that's more peak uh
53:15 like frequent service during commuting
53:17 times and then more service all of the
53:20 day and on beacons um in addition to
53:22 connecting to link
53:24 i don't know is there anything else you
53:25 wanted to add um jr yeah and i kind of
53:29 want to jump in just to kind of follow
53:30 up with that on the 54 is that if we're
53:33 going to see a lot more uh frequent
53:35 service than we do today right so we're
53:37 going to be running at 10 minute peaks
53:39 and 15 minute base um going like once
53:42 like this change happens to kind of be
53:44 able to connect the length which will be
53:45 running eight minutes in a peak ten
53:48 minutes in the bass right so now unlike
53:50 we want to make sure that we're creating
53:52 a more frequent service on top like you
53:54 know as we continue to modify modifier
53:55 route
53:58 all right
53:59 so i'm gonna now flip through a couple
54:01 of slides that just touch on um what
54:04 we've been hearing can you are you uh
54:06 could we take questions while we're
54:08 uh or do you want to wait and hold them
54:10 to the end
54:11 um i think we're pretty close to the end
54:13 so we
54:14 can do it
54:15 either way um we have a few more slides
54:19 but then yeah but either way it's up
54:21 it's up to you all for sure
54:24 jerry do you want to ask now or do you
54:26 want to hold off
54:30 i can hold off okay i'll hold off too go
54:32 ahead carry on brian thank you all right
54:33 we'll try to move through so we can
54:35 spend time on questions
54:37 um so i just wanted to highlight um i'll
54:40 hand this first one to jr these are kind
54:42 of what we heard from folks on our
54:43 survey in other ways
54:45 all right thanks brian so yeah so what
54:47 we heard is that we definitely heard
54:48 more support we heard support for more
54:51 frequent service all day every day right
54:53 so we're able to achieve that by making
54:55 sure that we move our frequencies from
54:57 15 20 to 10 15
54:59 and support for more connections to
55:01 lincoln bellevue so what our latest or
55:04 where our phase two survey we heard back
55:07 from about for this particular change we
55:09 heard back from about 336 folks and
55:13 we're here we have about 53 percent
55:16 approve of the change i have supporting
55:18 the change just like what we're doing
55:19 with the more frequent route 54 and yes
55:22 you you may be losing that 1c ride but
55:25 to be able to have a faster connection
55:26 to a high capacity transit system with
55:28 something that um
55:30 over half like the like half of people
55:33 who responded uh really enjoyed so
55:35 that's just something i really want to
55:37 call out there and what we're hearing
55:38 from our you can still from the people
55:40 who responded to the survey um next time
55:43 we kick it back over to brian who might
55:45 have a little bit more insight on
55:46 natural route yeah just a couple
55:48 highlights um
55:49 there was a lot of support for the 269
55:52 change um like the added sunday service
55:54 and link
55:56 as well as
55:57 those new destinations that it reaches
55:58 out to
55:59 and then again i think um a lot of folks
56:02 liked the
56:03 new local connections um and getting to
56:06 factoria on the route 203 so i just
56:08 wanted to highlight those
56:10 um and then i wanted to end here because
56:12 i know there are a lot of questions
56:14 about transfer so i i wanted to
56:16 acknowledge that um
56:18 and we can talk about that also if there
56:20 are questions
56:21 but um
56:22 overall i i think what i wanted to say
56:25 here is that transfers are a new
56:26 experience um but sound transit and
56:29 metro
56:30 um worked hard to make them seamless and
56:32 really easy for riders
56:35 um the platforms at mercer island in
56:37 south bellevue are really close to the
56:38 train platform
56:40 and service to the stations is very
56:42 frequent and that means that there's
56:43 little waiting in both directions
56:46 um so overall the the benefit of buses
56:50 um you know connecting with a transfer
56:52 is that not only can they come more
56:55 often but there's this ability to reach
56:57 more places at more times of the day
57:00 and and link has a big advantage of also
57:03 not getting stuck in traffic
57:05 so that means you can really count on
57:07 the train um you can make it to time
57:09 make it on time to dinner or if you have
57:11 a daycare pickup or if you're going to
57:13 soccer practice it's that reliability
57:16 that um can really uh make a difference
57:19 in folks lives
57:21 and some of these buses like before the
57:23 pandemic were late you know more than
57:25 more than 10 of the time so that's
57:27 something that is going to be improved
57:29 by link um
57:31 and i think that's really all we had um
57:34 for slides i have a couple of questions
57:36 here but i think we should just open it
57:37 up um
57:38 for for uh comments and discussion
57:44 jerry why don't you go ahead
57:46 okay
57:47 um yes um i i did notice um when you're
57:51 talking about
57:53 um that 215 and the 218 which is the new
57:57 commuter routes
57:58 they're only they start at
58:00 um issaquah highlands correct that park
58:03 and ride and they don't
58:06 so we're not going to have except for
58:08 the 554 commuter service
58:11 in the valley of issaquah
58:14 uh for commuter service it seems like
58:16 only the 554 is going to service the
58:20 isoqua park and ride is is that true
58:25 um yes that's true but um the 554 um is
58:29 more frequent it comes every 10 minutes
58:32 um the the 203 is more of a local route
58:35 but it will serve the issaquah transit
58:37 center
58:38 right but
58:40 okay
58:41 so yes but but i think because of that
58:44 pandemic maybe either
58:46 i mean
58:47 what led to that decision that um
58:52 you're servicing for commuter routes the
58:54 218 and 215 is that because more people
58:56 are using it now
58:59 versus maybe
59:01 um maybe before the pandemic i'm just
59:04 sort of curious
59:07 how that came about
59:09 because yeah it would be nice to have
59:12 another commuter route
59:15 coming through
59:16 issaquah park and ride
59:18 that's that's just one of my comments
59:20 but
59:21 i have to admit there's probably less
59:23 people going downtown right now
59:25 and so i'm just wondering if that
59:27 influenced
59:28 the decision
59:30 from
59:31 downtown is sequoia
59:33 no thank you for that i mean i think
59:34 that's a great comment and something i
59:36 want to take back to our planner team um
59:38 to consider for sure um there there is a
59:42 high volume of of users before the
59:44 pandemic um coming from the ischool
59:46 highlands um and we but we did want to
59:49 balance that with the really good um
59:51 really frequent service with the 554
59:53 serving the um the transit center in
59:55 downtown
59:56 so we tried to balance it that way but
59:58 it's it's a great comment to kind of
1:00:00 consider the importance of both places
1:00:08 thank you thank god
1:00:09 jerry did you get did that answer your
1:00:11 question
1:00:14 thanks
1:00:15 okay so um gosh i have so many questions
1:00:18 but i'll try to be focused i i was just
1:00:20 sort of curious kind of maybe this is a
1:00:22 question for brian from the planning
1:00:24 i'm not sure um
1:00:26 were these
1:00:27 changes uh and the some of the goals
1:00:29 optimized for
1:00:31 like i'm kind of thinking of the equity
1:00:33 lens and we talk a lot about that um in
1:00:36 our transportation planning um
1:00:39 and there's it seems like folks who rely
1:00:42 on transit
1:00:45 have gotten a big boost
1:00:47 and as opposed to necessarily
1:00:50 um serving the kind of major pulses
1:00:53 pre-pandemic you know um
1:00:55 heavily
1:00:57 probably mo in more cases um
1:00:59 more professional going in you know to
1:01:02 downtown seattle at 8 30 in the morning
1:01:04 i'm just sort of curious i'm sure you
1:01:07 better language
1:01:08 i'm not even sure if i'm i'm trying to
1:01:10 articulate my question but i'm thinking
1:01:11 about
1:01:12 were you optimizing this
1:01:16 folks who rely on transit as opposed to
1:01:19 an idea of what kind of congestion
1:01:21 relief and convenience for people who
1:01:22 have choices could drive or
1:01:25 or use transit i guess um
1:01:29 yeah thank you for that cynthia um as jr
1:01:32 mentioned you know
1:01:34 like equity is a really important center
1:01:36 um of our
1:01:38 of our project so it's something we do
1:01:40 think about a lot
1:01:41 and um in fact on this map if you if you
1:01:44 look at the tan areas those are areas
1:01:47 that we
1:01:48 um we know from census data have more
1:01:51 people of color more low income
1:01:54 more disabled and so we really want to
1:01:56 make sure we're we're doing a good job
1:01:58 of serving those areas
1:02:00 and as you mentioned we do know that
1:02:03 sometimes priory populations need to
1:02:05 travel at different times of day for
1:02:07 different kinds of jobs and i think
1:02:09 that's
1:02:10 why you know both at the mobility board
1:02:12 and other places people were excited
1:02:14 about um you know even though it was a
1:02:16 transfer that they could travel back and
1:02:18 forth from issaquah all day long um
1:02:20 versus having the commuter routes that
1:02:22 are really narrowly focused on those
1:02:24 commuter times it's it's really
1:02:25 connecting issaquah more more firmly to
1:02:28 the rest of the region
1:02:31 and i guess i'll just
1:02:33 oh i'm sorry go ahead
1:02:34 yeah i kind of want to follow up with
1:02:36 that too so with the change for the 554
1:02:39 going on the gilded boulevard i'm miss
1:02:40 correa incorrectly carter gilman road so
1:02:43 apologies there uh we want to make sure
1:02:45 that we're getting those those local
1:02:49 soon to become destinations you know
1:02:50 there's a lot of development going on
1:02:52 going on
1:02:53 we want to be able to service everybody
1:02:55 so that's why like you see a more
1:02:56 frequent 554 coming because we want to
1:02:59 make sure that folks who are outside of
1:03:01 those traditional peak traveling hours
1:03:03 have more access to jobs those who have
1:03:06 access to schooling to
1:03:07 recreation we want to make sure that
1:03:09 people get there as fast as frequently
1:03:11 as possible
1:03:14 i guess i just was
1:03:17 maybe just summarize my question is also
1:03:19 a kind of a comment it strikes me um
1:03:22 that you've optimized towards people who
1:03:24 rely on transit and that feels more
1:03:26 equitable to me and so i think that this
1:03:30 i'm very
1:03:31 in favor i mean i'm yeah very supportive
1:03:33 of what i
1:03:35 haven't had a chance to study at all
1:03:36 because it all came out pretty quickly
1:03:37 but that's my key takeaway and i'm
1:03:40 pretty personally i'm pretty supportive
1:03:42 of that i think it's really important
1:03:47 what about the rest of you uh do you
1:03:49 guys have any feedback
1:03:51 other
1:03:52 tab members
1:03:55 i mean i'm generally
1:03:57 really quite in favor of the new changes
1:04:00 that are coming um
1:04:02 for a while i was kind of hesitant about
1:04:05 the 5x4 going into south bellevue and
1:04:08 then having to connect the link into
1:04:10 seattle
1:04:12 but about as i've thought about over the
1:04:14 past while
1:04:16 i think it's just a really great option
1:04:18 in terms of
1:04:19 getting past the congestion
1:04:22 that always seems to happen in downtown
1:04:24 seattle um so i think it's just
1:04:27 generally good changes
1:04:29 i don't really have any questions
1:04:35 like micah erica anything anyone else um
1:04:38 i think any like added frequency is
1:04:40 always um if sir you're someone who
1:04:42 relies on transit that's crucial and so
1:04:44 i'd agree with that anything that adds
1:04:45 frequency um
1:04:49 i am curious about
1:04:52 i think it was addressed that um
1:04:55 554 is the only one now that's like
1:04:57 originating from
1:04:59 the valley transit center and so i'm
1:05:02 wondering
1:05:04 i'm probably not going to relate this
1:05:05 question very well but i'm wondering for
1:05:06 folks that do rely on transit then like
1:05:08 they're um limited to that route since
1:05:10 they might not be able to get to the
1:05:12 other transit center in town in the
1:05:14 highlands um it's a bit of a hill there
1:05:19 i don't that's
1:05:20 a bit concerning to me but i'm not sure
1:05:24 i don't know how crucial that would be
1:05:31 yeah that's definitely something we're
1:05:32 looking at um
1:05:33 kind of you know going from the north
1:05:36 and the south side of i-90 for um
1:05:39 for um local service so
1:05:41 that is something that we are definitely
1:05:43 looking at
1:05:52 go ahead
1:05:55 yeah um actually so i'm on the east link
1:05:58 connections mobility board so i actually
1:06:00 know a little bit about like the
1:06:01 projects that are going on but um i was
1:06:04 curious because so from what i
1:06:06 understand now it seems like
1:06:08 in order to get to seattle the 554 is
1:06:10 being replaced by the new 554 and then
1:06:13 um the eastlink
1:06:15 um light rail
1:06:17 and i was curious about affordability of
1:06:19 the eastlink light rail
1:06:21 um and sort of like what the pricing
1:06:23 difference would be for families who
1:06:24 would commute from
1:06:26 i guess the east link light rail
1:06:29 after taking the 554 to seattle and how
1:06:31 that like
1:06:32 compares to like current options for
1:06:34 people going from this club to seattle
1:06:39 it's a great question you know to be
1:06:41 honest i don't have like the exact
1:06:43 number like right off the top of my head
1:06:45 like the pricing
1:06:47 between let's say
1:06:48 south bellevue light rail station to
1:06:51 the chinatown id off the top of my head
1:06:53 but let's connect and i can kind of get
1:06:55 you those numbers or any like any one of
1:06:57 the like barracudas you know where
1:06:59 distance based when it comes to uh
1:07:01 link right but i want to make sure that
1:07:03 i'm giving you the right information so
1:07:06 i'll follow up with you to like see what
1:07:07 numbers we can get to so that way you
1:07:09 can get like the full picture of um fox
1:07:11 this cost is definitely a factor right
1:07:13 so it reminds you like you know
1:07:15 transfers work a little differently if
1:07:17 you have an orca car versus if you have
1:07:19 cash so we want to keep that in mind and
1:07:21 everything but
1:07:22 uh i would definitely follow up with you
1:07:24 to go and get your answer
1:07:27 uh yeah if i'm correct i remember one of
1:07:29 the things i heard in the
1:07:31 um meetings i had was that
1:07:34 the east link light rail was slightly
1:07:36 more expensive and for me personally i
1:07:38 feel like
1:07:39 that's a little bit of a concern for
1:07:41 equity um
1:07:43 especially for like low-income families
1:07:46 have a harder time paying a higher
1:07:48 commute
1:07:49 i feel like that might be concerned but
1:07:51 also another question i had
1:07:53 was if
1:07:55 they're like what
1:07:57 i guess
1:07:58 the new plans for sound transit would be
1:08:01 for connecting is quinn redmond because
1:08:03 i know that
1:08:04 redmond's opening
1:08:06 a new facebook office and they have
1:08:08 microsoft headquartered there
1:08:10 so it's kind of an important connection
1:08:13 i guess
1:08:15 absolutely and um just kind of like
1:08:18 follow up on your first comment uh no
1:08:20 like that is like that is a very good
1:08:22 concern to bring up right regarding
1:08:23 equity because we want to work like we
1:08:25 want to make sure that we provide an
1:08:27 affordable service not not just a shiny
1:08:30 new quick service right we want to make
1:08:31 sure that everybody has access to it now
1:08:33 regarding the issuance so
1:08:37 if i let's say i don't work for
1:08:39 soundtracks i work for facebook out of
1:08:40 the supply so i would take the 554
1:08:43 up to either south bellevue well
1:08:45 actually no i would take all the way to
1:08:46 downtown redmond or downtown bellevue to
1:08:49 hop on the two line that would take me
1:08:50 up to redmond and take
1:08:53 if it's closer to one of the i don't
1:08:54 know exactly where the um facebook
1:08:57 campus is but you'll have that
1:08:58 connection to the two line going north
1:09:00 up through red right then and there so
1:09:02 it's still that at least just that one
1:09:04 that one or that to see right that one
1:09:06 connection in downtown bellevue to get
1:09:08 your surroundings yeah i mean or you can
1:09:11 just take it down south of you as well
1:09:13 does that kind of answer your question a
1:09:14 bit or am i missing the mark a little
1:09:16 uh yeah it does thank you
1:09:19 and i'm happy to also just follow up on
1:09:20 the orca so um one of the other things
1:09:23 that's happening is that organ orchid
1:09:25 next gen as they call it is coming out
1:09:27 which is going to upgrade the orca cards
1:09:30 um orca is a product that is used across
1:09:32 the region so it's metro sound transit
1:09:35 community transit pierce transit kitsap
1:09:38 and with that there's going to be some
1:09:40 new benefits to orca the other thing is
1:09:42 that orca also has a low income fare
1:09:46 program and then metro does have our
1:09:48 subsidized annual pass program as well
1:09:50 and so we're expanding out the retail
1:09:53 networks with orca next gen there's
1:09:55 going to be another
1:09:57 push for
1:09:58 getting more folks on to orca lyft
1:10:01 we know that folks who pay cash
1:10:03 actually more like more than likely
1:10:05 qualify for a lift or the subsidized
1:10:07 pass and so that's another marketing
1:10:10 campaign there have been several but
1:10:13 because of the new product coming out
1:10:15 early next year there's going to be a
1:10:17 bigger significant campaign around this
1:10:19 and so part of this project will also
1:10:22 match up some of those campaigns um and
1:10:24 oftentimes when we launch new uh service
1:10:27 changes and things like that we do um
1:10:30 what we call the one trip and uh
1:10:33 we get we send out orca cards to people
1:10:36 um we really like street team that so
1:10:39 um our goal is to get more people onto
1:10:41 orca to help one with the cash issue
1:10:44 where unfortunately people who pay cash
1:10:46 end up sometimes paying more um and to
1:10:48 move people onto those orca products
1:10:50 that really do meet their income needs
1:10:52 and where they are so that is definitely
1:10:54 a an ongoing and high level conversation
1:10:56 here at metro and i know for other
1:10:58 transit agencies as well um because of
1:11:00 these pinch points that you're talking
1:11:01 about joseph so thank you
1:11:05 all right yeah thank you
1:11:10 i'm just going to read um
1:11:13 this comment from lauren um battalious
1:11:17 apologies as i cannot come off mute to
1:11:19 technical difficulties but for
1:11:20 low-income writers orca lift is always
1:11:22 an option i just wanted to note that she
1:11:24 put that in the chat um
1:11:27 and there is a link in the chat
1:11:31 yes and gunner said that as well all
1:11:33 right
1:11:35 so we are starting to fall behind we
1:11:37 started late and then we took longer for
1:11:39 the letter
1:11:42 do we have anything more on this
1:11:45 um this was really interesting i really
1:11:47 appreciate you guys coming here i know
1:11:48 it's um not super convenient but i guess
1:11:50 you go to a lot of evening meetings but
1:11:53 i think this everybody on this board is
1:11:55 really really um engaged on this topic
1:12:00 and with let's see um
1:12:03 it looks like julian did you you're i
1:12:06 can't tell you're waving your hand or
1:12:07 you um yeah yeah
1:12:11 i commented uh previously but it seems
1:12:13 like you couldn't read it um
1:12:16 for preliminary feedback i would like to
1:12:18 say that
1:12:20 south i-90 putting routes south of i-90
1:12:23 would be preferable
1:12:25 uh especially as we get we're having
1:12:26 more development happen on the south by
1:12:29 90 on newport way
1:12:30 at least
1:12:32 um so i think that would be a valuable
1:12:34 just preliminary input there
1:12:42 thank you somebody get a chance to ask
1:12:45 uh i want to make sure we have everybody
1:12:47 a chance to
1:12:48 comment and okay
1:12:52 yeah this is this is great we really
1:12:54 appreciate you guys coming here um for
1:12:56 some of us it's the first time we're
1:12:57 seeing this material so um
1:13:01 it's a lot there's a lot going on
1:13:05 great do we have anything more on that
1:13:07 are we ready to move on and then i think
1:13:09 we should do a time check um but i wanna
1:13:12 make sure we
1:13:14 um this last call for these folks and we
1:13:17 could you're certainly welcome to stay
1:13:20 at the rest of our meeting but i don't
1:13:22 think that we um
1:13:24 would need you to so i wanted you to
1:13:25 give you a graceful exit to get back to
1:13:28 your families it's 7 30 in the evening
1:13:33 okay thank you so much it was it was
1:13:35 wonderful to be here and check out our
1:13:36 website if you would like to dig in more
1:13:38 to these maps and uh information about
1:13:40 the project so thank you so much
1:13:43 yeah thanks thank you so
1:13:44 much you talking about talking again
1:13:50 yeah we really appreciate you coming out
1:13:52 here um and it's great to see you guys
1:13:53 all working together so well so that's
1:13:55 that's really nice too so
1:13:58 okay so isabelle and steven we probably
1:14:01 should do a time check um
1:14:03 um isabel
1:14:05 i know we had some
1:14:06 [Music]
1:14:07 do we have 15 full minutes i'm just
1:14:09 trying to figure out if we should do
1:14:11 i'm definitely committed to finishing at
1:14:13 eight even though we started late
1:14:15 um because it sounds like maybe stephen
1:14:18 is okay if we
1:14:19 either introduce this and finish it in
1:14:22 december
1:14:23 should we uh stephen and isabel i guess
1:14:26 my question is to you should we maybe
1:14:28 just do 10 or 15 minutes of item c the
1:14:31 title 18 development standard just to
1:14:33 introduce the notion
1:14:35 and then
1:14:36 um we'll go to the work plan and then i
1:14:37 do have a chair report tonight and i
1:14:39 don't know if we have a
1:14:41 youth reporter more staff report but i
1:14:44 get away from us real fast if we're not
1:14:46 don't make a decision at this point i
1:14:48 think
1:14:52 so it's it's
1:14:54 totally up to you chair if if you want
1:14:56 me to do the presentation i'd it'll be
1:14:58 difficult i think to shorten it down and
1:15:00 keep it on time so if
1:15:02 um if you want to leave time for
1:15:05 questions
1:15:06 we might go 5-10 minutes over um
1:15:10 but i'm happy to bring this back in
1:15:11 december i just see that we had uh
1:15:14 budgeted 30 minutes for it and that's
1:15:16 what i'm concerned
1:15:20 it's just
1:15:22 there is quite a bit of information and
1:15:24 so i'd rather try to keep to the 30
1:15:26 minutes if we can instead of trying to
1:15:27 short things out too much can i um uh
1:15:31 maybe suggest we go ahead and push it
1:15:34 and i just want to make sure um i know
1:15:36 you guys are probably you guys typically
1:15:38 come very well prepared but this is
1:15:39 pretty dense and so we'll just remind
1:15:41 everybody to to come prepared because
1:15:44 this is a new topic for us we haven't
1:15:46 dug into this kind of stuff maybe steven
1:15:49 take five minutes and give us the meta
1:15:51 not the not the answer not a summary of
1:15:53 your presentation but a little bit of
1:15:55 context
1:15:56 about
1:15:57 how we're how and i think you did that
1:15:59 before but
1:16:00 how we're
1:16:02 coming to this place of looking at a
1:16:04 title 18 development standards and
1:16:06 parking and how that maybe kind of just
1:16:07 a meta overview of how this work plugs
1:16:10 in since this is an art typical work and
1:16:13 then maybe we go ahead and move on is
1:16:15 that okay with the rest of you and the
1:16:17 board are you okay with that
1:16:22 yeah i think
1:16:23 um isabelle if you can give me uh
1:16:25 presenting rights i'll just show one
1:16:28 slide from my presentation which i think
1:16:29 will help explain
1:16:31 how this work kind of impacts the work
1:16:33 we do
1:16:34 what the board will be focused on is
1:16:37 specifically parking and circulation
1:16:39 standards and policies from title 18
1:16:44 the way we want to go about
1:16:47 this work is is hopefully
1:16:50 and this was going to be one of the
1:16:51 questions i want to ask was do we want
1:16:55 form a subcommittee to work through this
1:16:58 or do we want to
1:17:01 can you see this my screen the one slide
1:17:05 okay do we want to
1:17:08 have the full board kind of work through
1:17:10 this and and there's
1:17:12 pros and cons to both options but the
1:17:13 main thing is for this work we're going
1:17:16 to have to schedule special meetings
1:17:18 outside of the board
1:17:19 towards regular meetings just because
1:17:21 the board's agenda is already fairly
1:17:22 full for 2022
1:17:24 and so our thought was with the
1:17:26 subcommittee we could work through these
1:17:28 and quickly schedule
1:17:30 extra meetings as needed to go through
1:17:32 this work because it's it's quite dense
1:17:34 there's a lot of information involved in
1:17:37 how this impacts staff's work is
1:17:41 with the typical land use review process
1:17:44 if someone purchases a piece a piece of
1:17:48 they want to develop it they either
1:17:49 build a home or development
1:17:52 multi-family or commercial depending on
1:17:54 the zoning
1:17:57 the city staff have to go through kind
1:18:00 of a review framework
1:18:02 and that review framework includes
1:18:03 having us to look at the building
1:18:06 the site the
1:18:07 roads that lead into the site
1:18:10 any walking and biking trails and and
1:18:12 specifically parking and how that's
1:18:14 situated what's required of the site
1:18:18 on how it gets developed and that's what
1:18:20 the board's work will be influencing is
1:18:23 is that framework that
1:18:25 planning staff will be using to review
1:18:27 any permits or
1:18:30 applications that come to the city for
1:18:32 any new development
1:18:36 and i think i can leave it there and
1:18:38 open up to any quick questions
1:18:41 to help kind of clarify things a little
1:18:43 bit more
1:18:50 maybe another question is what in when
1:18:52 you're reviewing the materials or just
1:18:55 in my case i i didn't read every single
1:18:57 thing there was quite a bit
1:19:00 i'm wondering like what else do we as a
1:19:02 board need from staff do you think um
1:19:06 or did you have enough time to spend
1:19:07 with the materials
1:19:09 to even formulate that question
1:19:12 i think this is really cool work but i
1:19:13 also think it takes quite a bit of focus
1:19:16 to provide meaningful feedback
1:19:23 and we're we're just just to let the
1:19:24 board know what we're starting just
1:19:26 starting out in this work and so this
1:19:28 was primarily just an introduction to
1:19:30 the topic
1:19:32 and to ask that exact question of what
1:19:34 type of information would be helpful for
1:19:36 the board members to understand
1:19:38 what this is and how the board members
1:19:41 can contribute to it
1:19:43 the idea is that we'll be actually
1:19:45 having joint meetings with the economic
1:19:47 vitality commission
1:19:49 and they're going to be forming a
1:19:50 subcommittee for this process as well
1:19:52 so that we can have a thorough
1:19:55 discussion on each of the topics that
1:19:57 we'll be bringing to the subcommittee
1:20:05 and again it is a lot of information so
1:20:07 i'm happy to bring this back in
1:20:10 december
1:20:11 and kind of go through it a little bit
1:20:18 i thought that whole process that the um
1:20:20 that they had formed a subcommittee on
1:20:22 council i mean that that was interesting
1:20:24 in the exercise they did that the
1:20:26 attachment
1:20:28 that was included with the policy and
1:20:30 desired outcomes that was i thought a
1:20:32 really good framing exercise it just was
1:20:34 really dense
1:20:36 and uh
1:20:37 i'm gonna confess that i didn't i had
1:20:39 budgeted time to review the materials
1:20:41 and i did not budget enough time to
1:20:43 review that in as much depth but i found
1:20:45 it interesting and i'd love to take
1:20:47 another swipe at it
1:20:54 i guess we should go ahead and move
1:20:56 along unless anyone has any other
1:20:57 comments or questions about that we just
1:20:59 sort of chop that big huge thing off the
1:21:01 agenda oh joseph go ahead
1:21:04 yeah hi sorry um i just have a really
1:21:06 quick question about the
1:21:09 um title 18 proposed amendments i read
1:21:13 it and it says that one of the proposed
1:21:15 amendments for goal 4 was to add
1:21:18 salmon and wetlands where appropriate to
1:21:21 clarify priorities
1:21:23 i'm curious does that mean like
1:21:25 nature conservation in terms of like the
1:21:29 like prioritizing nature conservation
1:21:31 the title 18 code
1:21:35 you know that's one of the
1:21:37 one of the topics that another one of
1:21:39 the staff is handling so i can get a
1:21:41 more thorough answer for you after
1:21:43 today's meeting but
1:21:44 my understanding is yes it is more about
1:21:47 conservation and making sure we're
1:21:49 preserving a lot of the credible areas
1:21:52 wetlands
1:21:53 because it does
1:21:55 contribute to
1:21:56 salmon restoration into the creeks
1:22:00 all right thank you
1:22:06 okay i think my only last comment is um
1:22:10 if if you
1:22:12 if you have more time to review the
1:22:13 materials and you have questions before
1:22:15 december's meeting feel free to send
1:22:16 them to me
1:22:18 i'm happy to bring them up in the
1:22:20 meeting and answer a lot of those
1:22:21 questions there too
1:22:25 i'm going to just throw out because we
1:22:28 chopped up 30 minutes off the agenda so
1:22:30 we have just like i'm going to take one
1:22:32 extra minute and just say maybe just
1:22:33 show of hands like
1:22:35 about the subcommittee question um we do
1:22:38 not have to answer this now but i'm kind
1:22:39 of curious of just like a gut check
1:22:42 um the first question is does do the
1:22:45 folks here think that we
1:22:47 possibly could use a subcommittee on
1:22:49 something as dense and also this is
1:22:52 impacting code so that is pretty um
1:22:56 it's pretty substantive um
1:22:58 so do people think there
1:23:01 should be a subcommittee
1:23:04 um does this feel like it bubbles to the
1:23:07 top um maybe i'm seeing yeses and maybes
1:23:13 is that what i can't interpret that
1:23:14 jerry what does what does that mean does
1:23:17 that mean no no
1:23:22 and then the other question is is
1:23:24 anybody for whom this is just super like
1:23:27 they love to nerd out on this and like
1:23:29 thinking that if such a committed form
1:23:31 they'd like to be in on it yes that
1:23:33 that's like uh sorry my webcam like
1:23:36 crashed in the middle okay so i see
1:23:38 micah and julian um
1:23:40 yeah you don't have to be willing to
1:23:43 serve
1:23:44 to be interested in having a committee
1:23:46 formed
1:23:47 i think um
1:23:49 that's not we're not at that point yet
1:23:51 we have enough engaged folks that people
1:23:53 can think
1:23:55 yeah you don't have to be willing to
1:23:56 serve if you think there should be a
1:23:57 committee but uh okay well that's super
1:23:59 helpful
1:24:00 yeah i mean i'm also kind of inclined to
1:24:02 say this is
1:24:03 meaty enough um
1:24:06 fewer people spending more time on it
1:24:08 maybe is appropriate in this case but um
1:24:12 but we'd have to decide now we'll come
1:24:13 back in december okay well thank you for
1:24:14 being flexible stephen
1:24:18 i know you felt no thank you i'm happy
1:24:19 to answer any questions on it it is it's
1:24:22 a lot so i'm i'm i want to make sure i
1:24:24 give the board enough time to kind of
1:24:25 process that and think about it a little
1:24:27 more before giving any initial feedback
1:24:31 um i think the only thing i wanted to
1:24:33 add was uh i did have when i did review
1:24:36 i didn't get a super great sense of
1:24:38 whether there was a lot of information
1:24:39 about best practices and about what
1:24:41 maybe kind of boulder moves other cities
1:24:44 um have made it with regard especially
1:24:47 to parking standards i think that's
1:24:48 pretty
1:24:49 uh there's a lot of rich there's a lot
1:24:51 of material there i would think um so
1:24:53 i'd be interested in hearing what other
1:24:55 successes
1:24:56 okay um well thank you steven uh it
1:24:59 sounds like maybe we want to go ahead
1:25:01 and move on to the board work plan
1:25:10 so oh sorry erica had a question
1:25:15 okay i guess i like i feel like it's a
1:25:17 no but um you mentioned that the
1:25:18 economic board had already folded or
1:25:21 formed a subcommittee about this
1:25:23 is it possible to have a subcommittee of
1:25:26 two different boards on the same thing
1:25:28 or is that a just crazy idea and it
1:25:30 can't happen
1:25:31 oh no that's actually the intention is
1:25:33 to have two subcommittees from two
1:25:36 separate board commissions
1:25:38 work together on this
1:25:41 so they would form like a super
1:25:42 subcommittee yep
1:25:44 that we can call that if you play
1:25:50 super sub does that bring it back to
1:25:53 baseline
1:25:58 thanks all right any other questions did
1:26:01 i jump the gun no okay all right now i
1:26:03 think we're ready to move on
1:26:06 okay so i am next i i am going to share
1:26:11 my screen so you can see uh our draft
1:26:16 work plan for 2022
1:26:19 okay oh
1:26:21 can you see my screen now
1:26:26 so for 2022
1:26:28 uh the word plan in addition to the
1:26:30 ongoing topics like the transportation
1:26:33 improvement program and the mobility
1:26:35 master plan that we have included on
1:26:37 this year's
1:26:41 work plan we are going to to kick off
1:26:44 the year with a neighborhood safety
1:26:47 program
1:26:48 and title 18 with um
1:26:52 a focus on parking and circulation and
1:26:55 we will
1:26:57 also be the one of the new
1:27:00 items that we will include in the agenda
1:27:02 are the performance metrics that the
1:27:04 city is working on
1:27:06 and we will also include
1:27:09 somewhere in spring the ada transition
1:27:13 plan we will have a few meetings to
1:27:16 discuss the transit study
1:27:20 another
1:27:22 new item that we will be we be bringing
1:27:25 to the
1:27:26 tab next year would be the intelligent
1:27:28 transportation study
1:27:31 probably that would happen in
1:27:34 summer
1:27:36 also we will be
1:27:38 discussing the comprehensive plan update
1:27:42 transit and metro updates like we did
1:27:45 this this year
1:27:47 the transit study
1:27:49 uh information from parks
1:27:51 and at some point during the year we
1:27:53 will be talking about the racial equity
1:27:56 when we uh
1:27:58 move forward with that process with the
1:28:00 city and
1:28:02 we have some more in between april will
1:28:06 uh between april and summer will
1:28:09 um after we get through the process of
1:28:12 reelecting
1:28:13 board members we will plan on doing some
1:28:16 board training um
1:28:18 we think that would be a good timing for
1:28:20 it to do that
1:28:23 so this is
1:28:25 basically a
1:28:27 giraffe like uh
1:28:29 of the work plan that we have but if
1:28:32 there is anything that you feel
1:28:35 like is missing
1:28:38 i think we have a good list of items to
1:28:41 discuss during the year
1:28:42 but if there's anything that you would
1:28:46 to be included on the next year's board
1:28:49 feel free to
1:28:50 to suggest that
1:29:03 i have a
1:29:05 really specific topic suggestion that
1:29:07 might fit into the racial equity
1:29:09 training
1:29:11 one of
1:29:12 something that i know happens um in
1:29:14 other i have like there's that on other
1:29:16 states i'm not quite sure about
1:29:17 washington where um jaywalking citations
1:29:20 are like disproportionately um follow
1:29:23 along like racial lines
1:29:24 and so i don't know if that would be
1:29:27 like somehow incorporated into our
1:29:29 racial equity training i know that's not
1:29:30 it's not like a transit issue but if
1:29:32 we're talking like pedestrian that kind
1:29:34 of like does fall under our
1:29:36 review so that's really specific and if
1:29:39 that's like not possible um
1:29:41 but i guess i'd be feedback for like the
1:29:43 trainer maybe or
1:29:44 whenever that happens
1:29:56 i had a question about training
1:29:59 but i also
1:30:00 wanted to say that i think that we're
1:30:02 talking about
1:30:04 board training as in opma and pra and
1:30:08 that sort of thing um
1:30:10 as opposed and i think the racial equity
1:30:13 material
1:30:14 aren't we getting closer to having
1:30:18 some um have come from now the words are
1:30:20 escaping me but some sort of like um
1:30:23 uh like a lens that we put things
1:30:26 through
1:30:26 uh yeah can you help me out here so i
1:30:30 those are a little bit different i'm
1:30:33 super interested in what you just said
1:30:34 erica but i
1:30:36 feel like that question might assume
1:30:38 that those two things are like the
1:30:39 training and the equity or training but
1:30:41 i think those are
1:30:43 as listed in the work plan i think those
1:30:45 are two completely separate ideas
1:30:48 i think it would be helpful to be
1:30:49 reminded because my second question had
1:30:51 to do with the racial equity topic
1:30:55 i can help kind of
1:30:57 shed some light on the
1:30:59 equity and
1:31:00 it's the equity framework
1:31:02 is what the city's working to develop
1:31:04 and and
1:31:05 right now it's
1:31:07 on the city council's work plan to
1:31:09 discuss
1:31:10 in january
1:31:12 of 2022
1:31:13 um but the city council recently just
1:31:15 asked the new equity board to review
1:31:18 some of that information and since it's
1:31:20 still in development that beating in
1:31:21 january might get pushed a little bit so
1:31:24 it's still in development but right now
1:31:26 we were actually
1:31:28 soliciting the help of the new equity
1:31:30 board to help output some of that work
1:31:32 as it gets further developed
1:31:36 and then to erica's question or point on
1:31:40 looking specifically at jaywalking as
1:31:43 part of equity analysis that's something
1:31:46 the city
1:31:47 has an equity team we're currently in
1:31:49 discussion of looking at what type of
1:31:51 analysis we would like to do and and
1:31:54 those are one of those specific items
1:31:56 that we'll be kind of looking at
1:31:58 depending on the city's budget to
1:32:00 work with our consultant on
1:32:05 thank you
1:32:12 uh joseph
1:32:16 i had a question sort of about like
1:32:19 the equity training i was wondering if
1:32:22 um i wasn't present at the last equity
1:32:24 training meeting because i had something
1:32:26 i think during that meeting but i was
1:32:28 wondering if moving forward because i
1:32:30 know that
1:32:31 uh like the city of fiscal during equity
1:32:33 training presents
1:32:35 um materials on equity training and sort
1:32:40 framework towards approaching projects
1:32:42 making
1:32:42 sure that they have an equity lens to
1:32:45 i was wondering if esco was gonna
1:32:47 present or like research
1:32:50 data in terms of inequities or
1:32:52 disparities and transportation
1:32:56 if that was something that
1:32:59 could be presented or like looked into
1:33:05 we are looking at that yes um we're
1:33:08 trying to determine how much
1:33:10 funding is going to be left over for
1:33:12 some of our projects to kind of look
1:33:14 into that right now we're focusing more
1:33:16 on the development of the equity
1:33:17 framework to kind of put that equity
1:33:19 lens on a lot of our projects
1:33:21 but the
1:33:22 data is one of the issues in terms of
1:33:24 like what's available
1:33:26 is something that we're trying to look a
1:33:27 little bit further into to conduct some
1:33:29 of that analysis you know with the
1:33:31 jaywalking as it relates to
1:33:33 equity
1:33:34 in terms of services that are provided
1:33:36 to the community but also looking at any
1:33:38 other types of services to the community
1:33:40 that might also be inequitable is
1:33:42 something that we want to look at with
1:33:43 our consultant
1:33:46 yeah thank
1:33:48 you one um
1:33:52 one piece of research i might offer for
1:33:54 the board to
1:33:56 to look at to give you
1:33:58 an idea of a direction we could go the
1:34:00 city of kirkland recently
1:34:02 published equity analysis with
1:34:05 their consultant who they actually have
1:34:07 the same consultant as us shannon
1:34:11 is very good at
1:34:14 conducting analysis for
1:34:16 each city's needs take a look at what
1:34:19 they published back at i think october
1:34:21 19th was
1:34:23 the meeting date and you'll have all the
1:34:25 latest materials in terms of
1:34:27 analysis they've completed and also the
1:34:30 direction that they're they're wanting
1:34:31 to take with the
1:34:44 city i'll make a comment i was just
1:34:47 thinking that um steven maybe you can
1:34:49 tell us
1:34:51 when do we need to put forth a
1:34:52 recommendation because
1:34:54 i think that parking in circulation and
1:34:57 parking uh kind of old school you know
1:35:00 1970s 1980s parking regulations
1:35:04 probably
1:35:06 favor
1:35:07 people who have cars and at the cost of
1:35:09 people who can't afford cars and i feel
1:35:12 like that is
1:35:13 um something it'd be really nice to have
1:35:15 even a draft of the equity framework
1:35:17 available to use the title 18 as a
1:35:22 you know a first run
1:35:24 um it feels
1:35:26 disingenuous when we if we say we're
1:35:28 committed to equity if we don't even
1:35:31 take a swipe at that for before putting
1:35:34 forth a recommendation for title 18
1:35:36 um it's one of those things you don't
1:35:37 think of it equity is not the first
1:35:39 thing that comes to mind you think of
1:35:40 not being able to find a parking space
1:35:42 um or having acres of empty parking lots
1:35:46 you know there's all kinds of more
1:35:47 obvious
1:35:49 visual
1:35:50 problems with poor parking
1:35:53 policies but equity is
1:35:56 um i think relevant if you scratch the
1:35:59 surface a little bit so i'd love to see
1:36:02 that can you speak to the timing on that
1:36:04 between those two things
1:36:06 with the title 18 work with the board
1:36:09 the idea is that we would have meetings
1:36:11 through march
1:36:12 and potentially through may depending
1:36:14 because right now we're hoping to have a
1:36:18 gaps analysis done by february
1:36:20 and then solutions drafted out by march
1:36:23 and then
1:36:24 because there's so many sections then
1:36:26 we're actually going to bring them
1:36:27 together for a full draft proposal in
1:36:31 and work through
1:36:33 an engagement process with the community
1:36:35 but also with all the stakeholder groups
1:36:36 that we're working with on reviewing
1:36:38 that full draft
1:36:40 our hope is that we'll have a framework
1:36:42 done by that point
1:36:44 and um meets in
1:36:48 the deadline for adoption for the draft
1:36:50 proposal for title 18 is december 2022
1:36:53 so between may and december
1:36:56 we're hopeful that we'll be able to
1:36:58 apply the equity framework in that time
1:37:01 but it's hard to say
1:37:02 with no specific timeline on development
1:37:05 of the framework that it will fall in
1:37:07 that time frame
1:37:10 but right now that is what we're working
1:37:11 towards because you're right it would be
1:37:14 it would be great because the land use
1:37:16 code has such a significant impact on
1:37:19 what the city does
1:37:21 having an equity lens on it would
1:37:24 would
1:37:26 really be significant to meeting the
1:37:27 city's goals
1:37:30 erica go ahead
1:37:34 um does the
1:37:36 uh equity board are they also reviewing
1:37:39 title 18 things i'm not saying that's
1:37:42 like you know something in lieu of like
1:37:44 oh we don't have this framework up and
1:37:46 off the ground yet so at least there's
1:37:48 but i
1:37:49 i mean both i think to me would be ideal
1:37:53 is that something they're looking at
1:37:56 i don't believe so and and it's
1:37:58 primarily because their the intention of
1:38:01 that board was to support the city
1:38:03 through its work on specific on equity
1:38:06 and i think that framework is really
1:38:08 where they're going to make that
1:38:09 connection to title 18s and delivery of
1:38:11 services and the equity boards work
1:38:18 i think it'd be great if you could take
1:38:20 that back that the transformation
1:38:22 advisory board is saying
1:38:24 we want some kind of framework equity
1:38:26 we're serious about equity we
1:38:28 yeah we're clamoring for that
1:38:31 and i'm i'm seeing nods so i don't think
1:38:33 i'm just speaking for myself it sounds
1:38:36 that captures we all agree okay
1:38:38 yeah definitely agree
1:38:40 especially when it comes to parking
1:38:44 you know especially as we get more
1:38:46 transit in the isoqua area
1:38:49 i think there needs to be some
1:38:51 sort of reimagining of the parking
1:38:53 minimums that we have and things like
1:38:56 so i think uh equity study would be a
1:38:58 good way to start with that
1:39:04 all right uh
1:39:06 does anybody else have any comments on
1:39:09 um the work planche um there's a lot of
1:39:13 stuff
1:39:14 isabelle did you get did you have any
1:39:16 specific questions besides
1:39:18 generally what you asked did you get
1:39:20 what you needed
1:39:21 yes and if there's
1:39:23 any reason i mean this we still have
1:39:27 until the end of the year to finalize
1:39:30 the work plan so if there's any
1:39:32 suggestions on topics they can uh
1:39:36 bring bring them up either on
1:39:41 during the
1:39:42 shares meeting or
1:39:44 sends and any emails and suggestions on
1:39:48 topics that they would like to see on
1:39:50 the board
1:39:53 and plan like to just add with a caveat
1:39:57 just like the 2021 work plan all our
1:40:00 project schedules are always subject to
1:40:01 change so
1:40:03 just as we get updated project schedules
1:40:05 we'll also update the board work plan
1:40:08 schedule to
1:40:09 be aligned with that as well yes the
1:40:11 timing of each topic i forgot mentioning
1:40:13 yes could be switching from back and
1:40:16 forth depending on on
1:40:19 readiness for each one of the projects
1:40:29 that brings us to
1:40:31 the reports i think um and we just other
1:40:34 i guess item 4d and 5a are the same
1:40:37 thing
1:40:39 we just dug a little deeper since we're
1:40:41 looking at the whole next year um
1:40:44 but that brings us to staff report
1:40:47 yes we have a couple of things uh but
1:40:51 mostly focus on uh the council adopting
1:40:54 the 2022 budget which included quite a
1:40:56 few things for
1:40:58 transportation related items one of them
1:41:01 is uh the
1:41:02 unlimited term transportation program
1:41:05 coordinator coordinator position that
1:41:07 will be
1:41:09 involved with the transportation
1:41:11 advisory board meeting
1:41:13 a transportation construction inspector
1:41:16 and also some funds for a couple of
1:41:19 things like the transit study ada
1:41:22 transition plan concurrency model update
1:41:26 central issaquah bicycle network
1:41:29 neighborhood
1:41:30 based small projects program
1:41:32 shuttle pilot project intelligent
1:41:35 transportation system story so we will
1:41:38 be busy next year
1:41:43 and that's what
1:41:45 i have for the staff report
1:41:49 that sounds like great news is that is
1:41:51 that good are you happy with that
1:41:53 yes oh and
1:41:54 also uh
1:41:56 something else i forgot mentioning
1:41:59 that i
1:42:04 the new signal traffic engineer for the
1:42:07 since i have a background on traffic i
1:42:11 will be filling out that position that
1:42:13 has been
1:42:15 closed for
1:42:17 a couple of years now
1:42:23 is that a different job are you just
1:42:24 assuming more responsibilities
1:42:27 oh it's it's a different job uh
1:42:30 but uh uh i will
1:42:32 still be working on projects uh more
1:42:36 uh focus on traffic signals yes
1:42:42 well that's exciting congratulations
1:42:44 thank you
1:42:46 but you'll still be hosting these
1:42:47 meetings correct yes for now that's the
1:42:50 that's the plan yeah
1:42:56 okay uh i do have a chair report
1:42:59 today i have two things
1:43:02 the first is a quick report out on the
1:43:05 capital finance community task force in
1:43:07 which i'm serving so uh recall that our
1:43:10 task is to provide mayor paulie with a
1:43:12 recommendation in january so it's an ad
1:43:15 task force um
1:43:17 on which areas of the most recent
1:43:19 capital improvement plan program are
1:43:21 most important and they keep talking
1:43:24 about buckets so we're talking
1:43:25 transportation facilities
1:43:27 parks and trails
1:43:29 and then to suggest specific financing
1:43:31 tools
1:43:31 for the mayor and council to consider to
1:43:34 that end we recently completed a very
1:43:36 informal and very preliminary ranking of
1:43:38 the top priorities between these
1:43:40 transportation parks and trails
1:43:42 municipal facilities
1:43:43 um municipal facilities be like a new
1:43:46 fire station or a roof on the bone pool
1:43:48 nothing has been finalized at this point
1:43:50 but i thought you would be interested to
1:43:51 know that after a series of exercises
1:43:54 where we developed and then ranked
1:43:56 criteria
1:43:58 um and then determined then we
1:44:01 scored those different buckets based on
1:44:03 the criteria
1:44:05 transportation capital projects
1:44:07 came out on top
1:44:10 um pretty definitively and there was
1:44:12 kind of a tie between
1:44:14 second and third and there was even
1:44:16 discussion at some point utilities was
1:44:19 whether utilities should be in there or
1:44:21 not and
1:44:23 there's utilities is not one of the
1:44:25 buckets only because utilities basically
1:44:27 pays for itself
1:44:28 and so it's there's not a finance
1:44:30 question
1:44:31 with regard to utility so everything
1:44:33 they need to do
1:44:35 gets paid through rate payer so that's
1:44:37 it's just not part of the finance
1:44:38 exercise
1:44:41 so again that's preliminary but i just
1:44:43 thought you might be interested to hear
1:44:44 that um and
1:44:47 that seemed to be uh pretty well
1:44:50 that we had a couple meetings and it
1:44:51 kind of gelled in my opinion although
1:44:54 we're very very far from any kind of
1:44:55 formal recommendation
1:44:57 but i thought that was kind of
1:44:58 interesting um
1:45:00 i thought you'd want to know about that
1:45:02 um and then the second item
1:45:05 unfortunately very unfortunately our
1:45:07 vice chair sujata goyal has had to step
1:45:10 down from this board for medical reasons
1:45:13 um of course we will be keeping her in
1:45:16 our thoughts and um nobody wants to to
1:45:18 hear that um
1:45:20 she will be terribly missed um on this
1:45:23 board i'm sure you'll all agree that
1:45:25 we've benefited a lot from her wisdom
1:45:28 she's a very adept leader she's
1:45:30 quick-minded um and she has really great
1:45:32 professional experience so she will
1:45:34 definitely be missed um
1:45:36 yes uh her absence does leave us with a
1:45:39 vacancy on the board but for that we
1:45:42 will just look to the alternate with the
1:45:44 most seniority and i just looked back
1:45:46 through the records and jerry that would
1:45:47 be you
1:45:48 um and so
1:45:50 that what happens is then the alternate
1:45:53 position just remains vacant so
1:45:56 we do i think that's really great that
1:45:59 the alternates have stayed engaged
1:46:00 because this has worked really well so
1:46:02 we don't have any real vacancies so
1:46:04 thank you um as alternates to and
1:46:06 obviously tonight um you filled that
1:46:09 for the evening
1:46:11 and that's really great that we don't
1:46:13 really miss a beat when somebody uh is
1:46:16 unable to attend or to stay on the board
1:46:20 so it does leave a vacancy so yeah so
1:46:22 those vacancies for the alternate
1:46:24 positions will be filled in the next
1:46:26 round
1:46:27 of board recruitment which would be
1:46:28 finalized then by um by springtime
1:46:33 what we don't want to leave though is
1:46:35 the vacancy for the vice chair um and we
1:46:37 as a board appoint that amongst
1:46:39 ourselves john and i went back and
1:46:42 looked at the bylaws john looked at the
1:46:43 finals and so the chair and vice chair
1:46:46 terms are one year and they get elected
1:46:48 i don't think there's a term limit per
1:46:50 se but there's um the terms are only one
1:46:53 year and so that's supposed to be uh
1:46:56 that election supposed to happen every
1:46:57 year in may
1:46:59 and so
1:47:01 uh but i don't think we want to go till
1:47:02 may without a vice chair so stuff
1:47:04 happens behind the scenes um it just it
1:47:07 she's yeah i can't imagine trying to do
1:47:08 this without a vice chair um we always
1:47:10 meet with staff in advance and just try
1:47:12 to anticipate how the meeting you know
1:47:14 what order to put things in and what you
1:47:16 might need and it's just it's not a very
1:47:18 um it's not a lot of time but it's
1:47:19 definitely kind of an important
1:47:21 conversation that happens between
1:47:22 meetings
1:47:25 so what we'll need to do is choose an
1:47:28 interim vice chair to serve the
1:47:29 remainder of her current term
1:47:32 um and there's no reason that that could
1:47:34 that person couldn't be re-elected again
1:47:36 so um
1:47:37 it it it's a temporary position it's an
1:47:39 interim term but it doesn't necessarily
1:47:41 need to be a temporary um
1:47:44 role because it they can people can get
1:47:45 reelected um so i suggest we mull this
1:47:48 over until descent the december meeting
1:47:49 with the goal of electing a vice chair
1:47:51 in december um you should reach out to
1:47:53 staff with any questions you have their
1:47:55 contact information and of course if
1:47:56 anyone wants to talk to me about that
1:47:58 role just um ask isabelle and isabel you
1:48:02 give anybody my contact information if
1:48:04 they ask for any any of these board
1:48:06 members if they ask for contact
1:48:07 information i'm giving you permission to
1:48:09 give it out um
1:48:11 and you guys should just go ahead and
1:48:12 contact me if you want to talk to me
1:48:14 contact staff if you want to check the
1:48:16 staff if you have any questions um
1:48:19 but uh yeah that was a
1:48:24 uh surprise and heavy hit to hear that
1:48:28 uh she will definitely be missed but um
1:48:30 hopefully she'll be back
1:48:33 yes so
1:48:35 that oh it's already 802. okay so that's
1:48:37 all i have is there a youth report
1:48:43 i have been very busy with college
1:48:45 applications so i do not have a user for
1:48:48 today but i will try to get a news
1:48:50 report by the next meeting in december
1:48:55 all right well thank you well college is
1:48:57 very in applications are very time
1:48:59 consuming and very important so we
1:49:01 support you in that
1:49:04 do we have any other business or
1:49:05 announcements
1:49:10 okay um i'm gonna suggest we adjourn if
1:49:13 nobody objects
1:49:15 um thank you guys for slogging through
1:49:17 we had a bit of a rough start and
1:49:19 um we've had great attendance on this
1:49:22 board generally but unfortunately
1:49:23 tonight we were a little bit light but
1:49:25 we we got through it and we had a quorum
1:49:27 and i really appreciate the
1:49:29 alternate staying so engaged that we
1:49:30 could just not miss a beat keep going
1:49:32 with our business so thank you
1:49:34 um and thank you staff
1:49:38 all the work that you put into this um
1:49:40 great we'll see you guys next time
1:49:44 thank you everyone
1:49:45 have a happy thanksgiving everybody oh
1:49:47 yeah yeah sure happy thanksgiving enjoy