Planning Policy Commission · Thursday, January 28, 2021 · City Council Digest

1. CALL TO ORDER

Commission Membership

packet pp.3

Previously discussed: Planning Policy Commission · Dec 10, 2020

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Staff report:

PLANNING POLICY COMMISSION Staff Liaison About Christen Leeson, Senior Planner Created in 1983, this commission serves as a Email policy advisory body to the Mayor and provides guidance and direction for Issaquah's future Regular Members growth through continued review and 2021* - Ron Faul improvement to the City's Comprehensive Land 2021* - Joan Probala Use Plan and related land use documents. 2022 - Joy Lewis 2022 - Matt Monahan Membership 2022 - Janice Carle The Planning Policy Commission is comprised of 2022 - Jason Voiss seven regular members, with four-year terms; 2023 - Nina Milligan and several alternates, with two-year terms. All members are appointed by the Mayor and Alternate Members subject to confirmation by the City Council. 2022 - Richard Zaragoza Terms expire April 30 of the year listed. For 2023 - Vacant more information, see IMC 18.03. *Short term expiring April 30,…

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of Jan. 14, 2021

packet pp.5–10

Previously discussed: Planning Policy Commission · Dec 10, 2020

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 01-14-21 Planning Policy Commission Minutes Page [0000]

Proposed Docket of 2021 Issaquah Comprehensive Plan and Zoning Map Amendments, (A)

Christen Leeson, Senior Planner · packet pp.11–20

Topics: Land Use

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Staff report:

The state Growth Management Act requires that certain counties and the cities within those counties adopt comprehensive plans. The cities’ plans must contain the citywide visions, goals and policies for Land Use, Housing, Transportation, Utilities, Community Facilities, Parks, and Economic Development. Issaquah’s plan also includes Human Services and Cultural elements.

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

PPC Feedback Summary and Discussion

Andrea Snyder, Deputy City Administrator · packet pp.21–26

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Staff report:

Discuss feedback from Planning Policy Commissioners about how Commission meetings are run.

6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

Upcoming Schedule

packet pp.27

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Staff report:

FEBRUARY AUGUST 2/11/21 Public Hearing: Electric Vehicle Charging 8/12/21 2021 Comprhensive Plan Amendments: Stations (tentative) Land Use and Capital Facilities Elements 2/25/21 Title 18: Signs Amendments

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0:04 ↗ so welcome to the

0:06 ↗ january 28th meeting the planning policy

0:08 ↗ commission

0:10 ↗ tonight uh because of the governor's

0:13 ↗ continued request this meeting will be

0:15 ↗ held

0:16 ↗ remotely uh there will be a public

0:19 ↗ hearing tonight so

0:21 ↗ if anybody would like to call in the

0:24 ↗ information is on the agenda

0:27 ↗ uh just

0:30 ↗ once you get in down star 3 and wait for

0:33 ↗ your name to be called

0:35 ↗ so first thing i'm going to do is

0:37 ↗ kristen would you take the role

0:41 ↗ yes i will commissioner voice

0:46 ↗ here commissioner zaragoza

0:51 ↗ here mr monahan

0:54 ↗ here commissioner fall

0:58 ↗ here commissioner lewis here

1:02 ↗ commissioner carl here

1:05 ↗ commissioner milliken here

1:08 ↗ and chair probably here

1:13 ↗ all present i assume that we will be

1:18 ↗ voting on the agenda the uh co-plan

1:22 ↗ amendments this evening that's why i did

1:24 ↗ the agenda

1:25 ↗ uh the uh roll call first thing on the

1:28 ↗ agenda is the approval of minutes from

1:31 ↗ the january 14th meeting

1:33 ↗ so does anybody have any comments

1:36 ↗ uh changes nothing

1:40 ↗ so with that i will consider the minutes

1:44 ↗ to be

1:45 ↗ approved so

1:48 ↗ um before we have our public hearing

1:51 ↗ on the proposed changes for the comp

1:53 ↗ plan

1:55 ↗ i do want to add that

1:58 ↗ deputy city administer andrea snyder is

2:01 ↗ on the call

2:03 ↗ did i miss anybody else from the city

2:05 ↗ besides andrea okay so first of all

2:09 ↗ um we're going to have a short

2:10 ↗ presentation from

2:12 ↗ senior city planner kristin leeson about

2:15 ↗ the

2:16 ↗ uh proposed amendments to the comp plan

2:20 ↗ and the zoning map so kristen take it

2:22 ↗ away

2:24 ↗ okay let me share my presentation

2:33 ↗ okay are we good we're good

2:36 ↗ all right so i'm going to give a a

2:38 ↗ little bit of a history lesson here

2:40 ↗ too so we are talking about the proposed

2:45 ↗ or the docket of 2021 proposed

2:47 ↗ comprehensive

2:48 ↗ plan and zoning map amendments and

2:51 ↗ here's kind of the

2:52 ↗ timeline and process that not just we

2:54 ↗ follow this year but we follow every

2:56 ↗ year

2:56 ↗ so um either by january

3:00 ↗ 31st or the last thursday in january we

3:02 ↗ have we must hold a

3:04 ↗ public hearing and make a recommendation

3:06 ↗ on the docket

3:08 ↗ in february it goes to city council and

3:10 ↗ they take action on the docket

3:12 ↗ and then from march through august the

3:15 ↗ staff works on the proposed amendments

3:18 ↗ june through september typically the

3:20 ↗ planning policy commission will review

3:21 ↗ the draft amendments

3:23 ↗ and then september and october we hold a

3:25 ↗ public hearing

3:28 ↗ and then november is a council study

3:30 ↗ session and

3:31 ↗ december is council action it does have

3:34 ↗ to be done within the calendar year

3:38 ↗ so a little background as a reminder in

3:40 ↗ 1990 the growth management act was

3:42 ↗ adopted and the growth managed part with

3:44 ↗ the growth management act said

3:46 ↗ was that counties must plan they must

3:49 ↗ plan

3:49 ↗ overarching visions goals and policies

3:51 ↗ for the county and they must be

3:53 ↗ consistent with gma goals

3:56 ↗ cities within those counties must also

3:59 ↗ plan and they also must have overarching

4:01 ↗ goals visions and policies for the

4:03 ↗ cities

4:04 ↗ and be consistent with both the county

4:06 ↗ and the gma goals

4:10 ↗ so gma has 14 goals it looks like a lot

4:13 ↗ more here but i counted it is 14.

4:15 ↗ um and every one of these topics is

4:19 ↗ addressed in our comprehensive plan

4:24 ↗ so we have as our elements in our

4:27 ↗ comprehensive plan

4:28 ↗ whoops sorry we have land use

4:32 ↗ housing transportation utilities and

4:34 ↗ public services community facilities

4:36 ↗ parks and open space and trails

4:38 ↗ and economic development those elements

4:41 ↗ by themselves

4:42 ↗ cover what's required by gma we have

4:45 ↗ also added

4:46 ↗ human services and cultural elements to

4:48 ↗ our plan

4:51 ↗ so the plan may only be amended once a

4:55 ↗ year this is so that it ensures that

4:58 ↗ everything is being looked at

4:59 ↗ comprehensively and you don't just start

5:01 ↗ adding things

5:02 ↗ and things have to make sense together

5:04 ↗ so just just once a year

5:06 ↗ there are some exceptions but since i've

5:09 ↗ been here it's we have not had

5:11 ↗ those um the docket must be approved

5:15 ↗ prior to starting the amendment process

5:17 ↗ as i said to assure a holistic

5:19 ↗ consideration so the docket though is

5:21 ↗ not amendments

5:22 ↗ it's just a list of things and we ask

5:24 ↗ you and we ask council

5:26 ↗ does this list of things look relevant

5:28 ↗ does it look necessary

5:29 ↗ and if they look good then we'll go and

5:31 ↗ we'll start the research process

5:33 ↗ and begin the amendment process

5:37 ↗ so starting our docket this year

5:40 ↗ proposed on there

5:42 ↗ we have table l2 units toward 2031

5:46 ↗ adopted state housing target and table

5:48 ↗ l5 population and household projections

5:51 ↗ so each year

5:54 ↗ we work with the office of financial

5:56 ↗ management they ask us for things like

5:59 ↗ all permits

5:59 ↗ issued all in primarily resident

6:02 ↗ residential permits

6:03 ↗ all residential permits issued all

6:05 ↗ residential permits completed

6:07 ↗ anything that was cancelled anything

6:09 ↗ that um expired

6:11 ↗ anything that was permitted from it'll

6:14 ↗ be 2012

6:15 ↗ that was issued in 2012 that was just

6:17 ↗ that was permitted that was completed

6:19 ↗ later

6:20 ↗ we give them that information and then

6:21 ↗ they come back with us

6:23 ↗ with the total number of housing units

6:25 ↗ that we have

6:26 ↗ and estimated population and household

6:29 ↗ targets

6:30 ↗ or household projections so that's how

6:32 ↗ we get those numbers that go on the

6:33 ↗ comprehensive plan

6:35 ↗ those are not available to us until june

6:38 ↗ the end of june which is why we don't

6:40 ↗ come to you guys until later in the year

6:43 ↗ the next one is jobs same kind of things

6:45 ↗ we have our

6:46 ↗ state mandated job targets just like we

6:48 ↗ have state mandated

6:50 ↗ housing targets we get these from

6:53 ↗ uh excuse me apologize um

6:56 ↗ we get these also from the state they

6:59 ↗ are they lag though you're behind

7:01 ↗ and are not available until june either

7:03 ↗ so again that's why the numbers come

7:05 ↗ later

7:06 ↗ our remaining land supply and capacity

7:09 ↗ these are numbers that are done

7:11 ↗ about every eight

7:14 ↗ years or so last time we did it was in

7:17 ↗ 2014 but it was not nearly as in-depth

7:19 ↗ as we're doing now

7:21 ↗ um what we do is we look at what our how

7:23 ↗ much vacant and redevelopable land we

7:25 ↗ have

7:26 ↗ vacant land is either vacant or what is

7:28 ↗ on that property is worth ten thousand

7:31 ↗ dollars or less

7:32 ↗ and then redevelopable either it has

7:35 ↗ critical areas over 50

7:37 ↗ of it or it is not developed to the

7:40 ↗ maximum that the

7:41 ↗ land is allowed to be developed so we're

7:43 ↗ going through that process right now

7:45 ↗ and don't quite have the numbers back

7:47 ↗ from king county

7:48 ↗ and then there is going to be a climate

7:50 ↗ change plan developed this year

7:52 ↗ and so we're going to work with megan

7:55 ↗ and others who are working on that plan

7:56 ↗ to make sure that everything

7:58 ↗ is consistent our goals and policies

8:03 ↗ so redesignations and reasons we have

8:06 ↗ several that are being requested by the

8:08 ↗ city this year

8:09 ↗ to be designated as community facilities

8:12 ↗ because they are either parks or

8:13 ↗ open space so the first one

8:16 ↗ is actually an existing park in south

8:19 ↗ cove

8:20 ↗ that was dedicated to the city it's been

8:22 ↗ used as a park for a long time

8:24 ↗ it is currently a low density

8:26 ↗ residential designation

8:29 ↗ and a single-family small lot zoning

8:33 ↗ and the designation being requested is

8:35 ↗ community facilities

8:37 ↗ and the land use being requested is

8:39 ↗ community facility

8:40 ↗ excuse me zoning being requested as

8:42 ↗ community facilities recreation

8:49 ↗ the next two parcels are part of

8:52 ↗ the gateway or anthology development up

8:55 ↗ here on newport way

8:56 ↗ it's about 400 apartments that are up

8:59 ↗ there

9:00 ↗ they dedicated land to the city so the

9:02 ↗ one that is labeled

9:03 ↗ b is actually going to be used for

9:06 ↗ recreation and the one that is sea will

9:08 ↗ be used for open space they are

9:09 ↗ currently zoned village residential

9:14 ↗ and then these are formerly known as the

9:16 ↗ bergsma properties the proposed name is

9:19 ↗ the harvey manning park expansion

9:21 ↗ these were purchased by the city i

9:23 ↗ believe in 2017

9:25 ↗ and to be used as permanent open space

9:27 ↗ so they're all being proposed

9:29 ↗ they're currently zoned single family

9:31 ↗ estates and single family suburban

9:33 ↗ they're being proposed solely as

9:35 ↗ community facilities

9:37 ↗ open space there may be some park

9:39 ↗ benches or some

9:41 ↗ overlooks that kind of thing but

9:42 ↗ otherwise it will be

9:44 ↗ left to open space here's a new one for

9:48 ↗ you i received a

9:51 ↗ an application yesterday from a private

9:54 ↗ property owner

9:55 ↗ who would like to rezone this parcel

9:57 ↗ which is just under an acre

9:59 ↗ 0.81 acres it is currently single-family

10:02 ↗ suburban

10:04 ↗ and the property owner is requesting

10:07 ↗ multi-family medium so

10:10 ↗ that will be added to the docket either

10:13 ↗ way it will go to council

10:19 ↗ so the old town sub area plan as many of

10:21 ↗ you know we updated our old town subarea

10:24 ↗ plan

10:24 ↗ in 2018 we added an action program to it

10:29 ↗ and we're going to update that action

10:31 ↗ program a little bit because

10:32 ↗ now some of those things can't be done

10:35 ↗ or

10:36 ↗ may need to be altered just a little bit

10:39 ↗ and then

10:39 ↗ we have an implementation status chart

10:41 ↗ that we adopted last year

10:43 ↗ that also needs to be updated because

10:45 ↗ we've computed completed a few more

10:46 ↗ things

10:47 ↗ so we need to make sure people know

10:48 ↗ about that

10:52 ↗ capital facilities element are a

10:56 ↗ very eagle-eyed parks director

10:59 ↗ noticed that there were some things

11:00 ↗ missing that should have been on here

11:01 ↗ years ago

11:02 ↗ so we are going to update our now it's

11:05 ↗ called public facilities map

11:07 ↗ excuse me to include the community

11:09 ↗ center pool

11:10 ↗ senior center and pickering barn

11:15 ↗ and lastly as you all know

11:18 ↗ the planning policy commission's bulk of

11:21 ↗ your work

11:22 ↗ this year will be our title 18 update

11:26 ↗ and there will probably be

11:29 ↗ some comprehensive plan amendments

11:32 ↗ that need to go along with that so we

11:35 ↗ are going to make sure that everything

11:37 ↗ is consistent

11:37 ↗ and change what needs to be changed

11:42 ↗ so you have a few options tonight

11:46 ↗ we will have a public hearing and we're

11:49 ↗ hoping for a recommendation

11:50 ↗ there are a few options one is to

11:52 ↗ approve the docket as it is presented

11:54 ↗ another is to approve the docket with

11:56 ↗ changes

11:57 ↗ and the last one is to just not approve

12:01 ↗ the docket

12:04 ↗ so our recommendation is to approve

12:07 ↗ uh recommend approval of the docket as

12:10 ↗ presented

12:12 ↗ but while you're talking about it are

12:14 ↗ there any amendments that need to be

12:15 ↗ made this year that are not included on

12:17 ↗ the docket currently

12:18 ↗ are there amendments that aren't

12:20 ↗ relevant or necessary

12:22 ↗ and are there any refinements that need

12:24 ↗ to be made to the amendments that have

12:26 ↗ been to the proposed amendments that

12:27 ↗ have been presented

12:29 ↗ okay so that i think

12:32 ↗ oh timing next steps nope

12:36 ↗ that was an extra slide so that's all i

12:39 ↗ have

12:40 ↗ yeah thanks christian that was a

12:45 ↗ great presentation i'd like to know if

12:48 ↗ you want me to

12:49 ↗ open the public hearing first and then

12:52 ↗ have you discuss anything

12:56 ↗ um actually i think that's what i'm

12:58 ↗ gonna do so what i'm gonna do is

12:59 ↗ i i know there's some questions in the

13:01 ↗ chat and we'll get to them

13:03 ↗ but i'm going to open the public hearing

13:06 ↗ at 6 44

13:08 ↗ and ask kristen if there's anybody that

13:10 ↗ has been signed up to speak

13:14 ↗ there is no one who has signed up to

13:16 ↗ speak and there is no one

13:18 ↗ on the line that is

13:21 ↗ here to speak okay

13:24 ↗ since uh hearing and seeing them i'm

13:27 ↗ going to close the public hearing at 6

13:30 ↗ 45 even though it hasn't been a minute

13:33 ↗ it'll be closed at 6 45.

13:35 ↗ uh and uh open it up for discussion and

13:38 ↗ the first question

13:39 ↗ in the chat room is from commissioner

13:43 ↗ uh nina

13:48 ↗ thank you this is nina milligan thank

13:50 ↗ you

13:51 ↗ chair probably i have a question for

13:54 ↗ kristin about that

13:55 ↗ last item on the rezoning list that you

13:58 ↗ said came

13:58 ↗ in yesterday and i just wondered if you

14:01 ↗ could explain

14:02 ↗ for me and anyone else uh how the

14:05 ↗ public hearing and the packet coming out

14:07 ↗ the week before but it wasn't

14:09 ↗ in the packet and it's what other

14:11 ↗ opportunities do people have to speak on

14:13 ↗ that

14:13 ↗ um in particular so

14:17 ↗ applications and proposals for

14:20 ↗ comprehensive plan reasons are allowed

14:22 ↗ to be submitted until the public hearing

14:24 ↗ so that's part of the purpose of

14:25 ↗ tonight's meeting so that there was

14:27 ↗ something else

14:28 ↗ they could add it because our

14:29 ↗ advertisement says including but not

14:31 ↗ limited to

14:32 ↗ so this is their last opportunity to add

14:34 ↗ things to the conference to the docket

14:37 ↗ there are other opportunities to speak

14:39 ↗ this will go to city council on february

14:41 ↗ 16th

14:42 ↗ and then if it does get on the docket if

14:45 ↗ that

14:46 ↗ continues through the process there are

14:48 ↗ opportunities through the amendment

14:50 ↗ process to comment on the proposal

14:54 ↗ i have a question from commissioner

14:56 ↗ lewis

14:58 ↗ thank you chair commissioner joy lewis

15:00 ↗ here can you remind us kristen about

15:02 ↗ community facilities open space and

15:04 ↗ exactly

15:05 ↗ what is allowed in that it's really nice

15:07 ↗ to see um

15:08 ↗ bergsma properties on our um on our comp

15:12 ↗ plan this year

15:13 ↗ i just want to remind us like can the

15:15 ↗ city put up a facilities you know

15:17 ↗ maintenance shed for instance or just

15:18 ↗ exactly what um

15:20 ↗ can you remind us exactly what open

15:21 ↗ space entails so i'm going to expand on

15:24 ↗ that a little bit and just clarify that

15:25 ↗ we have three different community

15:27 ↗ facility zones

15:28 ↗ and they all start with community

15:30 ↗ facilities facilities

15:31 ↗ one has hyphenation facilities another

15:34 ↗ one is

15:35 ↗ recreation and another one is open space

15:38 ↗ so community facilities facilities

15:40 ↗ will actually allow for things like

15:41 ↗ community centers

15:43 ↗ utilities to go on there roads will go

15:47 ↗ there

15:48 ↗ detention ponds go there that kind of

15:49 ↗ thing community facilities recreation

15:53 ↗ is essentially a park space so you can

15:55 ↗ have

15:56 ↗ restrooms you can have merry-go-rounds

15:58 ↗ you can have

15:59 ↗ dog parks all sorts of things

16:02 ↗ associated kind of with recreation and

16:04 ↗ then the open space is very very limited

16:08 ↗ trails park benches i believe that you

16:12 ↗ know trails park benches picnic tables

16:15 ↗ overlooks i think that there are some

16:18 ↗ limited utilities that can go there

16:20 ↗ i would have to double check but i'm

16:22 ↗ pretty sure but i said the purpose is

16:25 ↗ to leave it as natural as possible

16:29 ↗ thank you yeah if you can just double

16:30 ↗ check because i do remember that open

16:32 ↗ space did allow for

16:33 ↗ some type of um maintenance utility

16:36 ↗ shedding and i just wanted to clarify

16:38 ↗ when we do address this that we have

16:39 ↗ what that is um but i am very happy to

16:42 ↗ see this designation

16:43 ↗ it's what we wanted

16:46 ↗ so we have a question from commissioner

16:48 ↗ foe

16:51 ↗ thank you madam chair this commissioner

16:53 ↗ fall uh two questions

16:55 ↗ uh the first one is uh regards to the

16:58 ↗ proposed parcels for redesignation

17:02 ↗ uh parcel a uh is

17:06 ↗ uh they want to move it from

17:10 ↗ single family small lot to community

17:13 ↗ facilities recreation

17:14 ↗ the question that i have is yes i know

17:16 ↗ that it is an existing park right now

17:19 ↗ is that owned by the city or is that

17:22 ↗ owned by the

17:23 ↗ homeowners association i would have to

17:27 ↗ double check but i believe it was

17:28 ↗ designated

17:29 ↗ to the city okay because are

17:33 ↗ is there property tax being paid on it

17:35 ↗ and if there

17:36 ↗ is would going to community facilities

17:40 ↗ recreation then remove that

17:43 ↗ um property tax obligation from the

17:48 ↗ homeowners association assuming that is

17:50 ↗ how it's set up

17:51 ↗ presently so that's the question

17:54 ↗ and then is there a benefit if that's

17:56 ↗ the case there is being property tax

17:58 ↗ being paid on that parcel

18:00 ↗ is there a benefit to moving it to

18:02 ↗ community facilities recreation

18:05 ↗ or is that actually a detriment and my

18:08 ↗ second question

18:10 ↗ is regards to the new

18:16 ↗ parcel change that was brought tonight

18:20 ↗ what is the location of that parcel i

18:22 ↗ saw it on the map but i couldn't

18:24 ↗ actually identify

18:25 ↗ where that is located so let me pull

18:27 ↗ that up again

18:34 ↗ there we go

18:43 ↗ oh i see sorry okay try this

18:48 ↗ it's not working

19:00 ↗ and here we go

19:09 ↗ okay so this property right

19:13 ↗ here this is

19:16 ↗ another property this is all um

19:18 ↗ anthology

19:19 ↗ at the gateway property so this is

19:20 ↗ newport way right here

19:23 ↗ 90 runs along here the

19:26 ↗ bergsma properties would be down sort of

19:29 ↗ below here

19:31 ↗ um yeah got

19:34 ↗ riva along here and revel

19:38 ↗ all that new development the apartment

19:39 ↗ development does that make sense

19:42 ↗ nope okay so west of sr 900

19:45 ↗ between newport or just south of newport

19:47 ↗ way

19:50 ↗ okay

19:58 ↗ there we go and as for your other

20:02 ↗ question

20:04 ↗ commissioner fall yes i do believe that

20:06 ↗ there is a benefit

20:07 ↗ tax wise in rezoning to community

20:10 ↗ facilities

20:12 ↗ for us i mean for the city or for the

20:16 ↗ homeowners association well if it's

20:18 ↗ already been dedicated to the city it

20:19 ↗ would be for the city

20:21 ↗ okay i will double check on that one

20:23 ↗ though before it comes back

20:25 ↗ okay so there was a lot a big discussion

20:29 ↗ from the council when they were

20:31 ↗ considering taking over

20:32 ↗ blackberry park which is that that's the

20:35 ↗ name of the park

20:37 ↗ and they've already uh taken it under

20:39 ↗ consideration in the city and have

20:41 ↗ already

20:42 ↗ allocated certain funds to improve the

20:46 ↗ park

20:48 ↗ i don't know anything about the benefit

20:50 ↗ tax benefits but it but it has been

20:53 ↗ taken over by the city i watched the

20:56 ↗ council prove it

21:00 ↗ i don't see any other questions any

21:02 ↗ comments

21:06 ↗ are you ready to vote on the proposed

21:08 ↗ amendments

21:15 ↗ if you're ready to vote could i have

21:17 ↗ some

21:19 ↗ shaking your head some some way to tell

21:21 ↗ me that you're ready to vote

21:23 ↗ um i need a motion to approve

21:27 ↗ the um comprehensive plan and zoning map

21:32 ↗ amendments as presented by the city

21:37 ↗ do i have a second oh well somebody has

21:38 ↗ to make that motion i can't

21:41 ↗ joan for that can i do you mind if i you

21:43 ↗ mind if i

21:44 ↗ make a comment or ask a question before

21:46 ↗ you move forward i had one more thing

21:48 ↗ well you could after we have a second

21:50 ↗ you can ask any question you want

21:52 ↗ okay so do i have a motion

21:58 ↗ there's no motion it dies

22:01 ↗ i would like to make a motion that we

22:03 ↗ approve of

22:04 ↗ the proposed docket of 2021

22:07 ↗ comprehensive plan and zoning map

22:09 ↗ amendments as presented this evening by

22:11 ↗ the city staff

22:12 ↗ i have a second

22:15 ↗ i'll second oh so

22:19 ↗ uh commissioner lewis

22:22 ↗ questions thank you commissioner joy

22:24 ↗ lewis

22:25 ↗ i had a question that i had brought up

22:27 ↗ to staff and i'm curious if we could

22:28 ↗ talk a little bit about the

22:29 ↗ stormwater management plan when we saw

22:33 ↗ this last year

22:34 ↗ we had had some bigger plans about it

22:37 ↗ and due to covet and staffing

22:40 ↗ restrictions

22:41 ↗ um we had had to take tablet last year

22:44 ↗ and when um i i actually really like the

22:47 ↗ comp plan

22:47 ↗ um when you've been doing it for a

22:48 ↗ little while it's like an old friend

22:50 ↗ right

22:51 ↗ um and you start to get excited about

22:54 ↗ the things that we can do the year ahead

22:56 ↗ it's kind of like a little present

22:57 ↗ seeing what's happening i was

22:58 ↗ disappointed to not see the storm water

23:00 ↗ management plan

23:01 ↗ on our docket typically when we're

23:05 ↗ in council chambers we like to have a

23:07 ↗ back and forth with staff what kind of

23:08 ↗ resources do you have what would you

23:09 ↗ need to be able to do this right we kind

23:11 ↗ of pick apart and talk about

23:13 ↗ um what more could we do and you know we

23:15 ↗ kind of compared the last year

23:17 ↗ um in pandemic times and um

23:20 ↗ given um the kind of the number of uh

23:23 ↗ openings that we have with staff i think

23:24 ↗ we're all pretty aware of

23:25 ↗ limitations that are going on right now

23:27 ↗ so i'm not going to jump into that

23:29 ↗ discussion the way we traditionally do

23:30 ↗ when we do this first meeting about the

23:32 ↗ comp plan but i would like to hear

23:34 ↗ about the stormwater management plan and

23:36 ↗ why um specifically it isn't being

23:38 ↗ brought to us this year into council

23:42 ↗ so this is chris chris try it again this

23:46 ↗ is kristin leeson

23:47 ↗ senior planner and hopefully andrea will

23:50 ↗ correct me if i'm wrong but i believe

23:52 ↗ that when i talk to him it won't be done

23:54 ↗ this year

23:55 ↗ the stormwater management plan it won't

23:56 ↗ be done until the beginning of 2022

23:59 ↗ so that therefore it couldn't go on to

24:01 ↗ our plan this year but it is in progress

24:07 ↗ any more comments questions

24:12 ↗ hearing none i'm going to call for the

24:14 ↗ question all those in favor

24:16 ↗ kristen you have to take the role

24:20 ↗ okay commissioner voice aye

24:24 ↗ commissioner zarago zaragoza

24:28 ↗ aye commissioner monahan

24:32 ↗ aye commissioner fall

24:39 ↗ hi commissioner lewis

24:42 ↗ aye commissioner carl

24:47 ↗ hi commissioner milligan

24:51 ↗ i and chair probably

24:54 ↗ hi us

24:57 ↗ that was eight two

25:01 ↗ yeah it was eight in favor unanimous

25:03 ↗ okay so it passes

25:05 ↗ so the next thing on our uh agenda is

25:08 ↗ something that's a little different that

25:09 ↗ we really haven't done before

25:11 ↗ we're going to ask cindy assist

25:14 ↗ assistant

25:15 ↗ assistant deputy city manager

25:18 ↗ snyder to lead us in a discussion on how

25:21 ↗ we can make

25:22 ↗ planning policy better for us for the

25:25 ↗ city

25:26 ↗ for the council and uh obviously for the

25:30 ↗ uh citizens of issaquah so i'm going to

25:33 ↗ turn over the microphone

25:35 ↗ and the share screen to

25:39 ↗ city assistant deputy city plant

25:42 ↗ deputy city administrator matt snyder

25:46 ↗ tongue type uh

25:49 ↗ thank you madam chair as kristin pulls

25:52 ↗ up the

25:53 ↗ presentation slides

25:56 ↗ yes this is andrea snyder the deputy

25:59 ↗ city administrator also serving as the

26:03 ↗ interim

26:04 ↗ community planning and development

26:06 ↗ director while we recruit for that

26:08 ↗ position so

26:09 ↗ joan really almost any title at this

26:11 ↗ point i'll i'll go by

26:15 ↗ well i didn't want i didn't want to

26:16 ↗ confuse you with uh

26:18 ↗ kristen so um you know

26:22 ↗ anyway we appreciate both of you

26:27 ↗ thank you madam chair um so if you could

26:30 ↗ go to the next slide kristen

26:32 ↗ thank you um the purpose of this

26:35 ↗ conversation as chair

26:37 ↗ propola mentioned it's really to discuss

26:40 ↗ feedback that i heard from the

26:43 ↗ one-on-one meetings that i had with

26:46 ↗ our planning policy commission

26:49 ↗ commissioners from

26:51 ↗ last year not our brand new faces we

26:53 ↗ have around the table

26:54 ↗ um but i i sat down with all of the

26:58 ↗ commissioners that are continuing into

26:59 ↗ this year and just

27:01 ↗ determined you know ask them for

27:03 ↗ feedback

27:04 ↗ on what do they think we're doing well

27:06 ↗ what are the things that

27:08 ↗ they think they would like to see

27:09 ↗ improve and so tonight i'd like to go

27:12 ↗ over

27:13 ↗ the themes of what i heard in terms of

27:15 ↗ feedback and

27:16 ↗ make sure that i heard you correctly and

27:19 ↗ if i didn't

27:20 ↗ definitely correct me and um and then

27:24 ↗ talk about where we go from here and if

27:25 ↗ there's anything else

27:27 ↗ um that uh you know we should be

27:30 ↗ thinking about as we

27:32 ↗ welcome our new members and proceed

27:35 ↗ to tackle our work plan for the rest of

27:37 ↗ the year and kristen if you could go to

27:39 ↗ the next slide please

27:42 ↗ and the reason uh back one yep great

27:45 ↗ and the reason why we're asking these

27:48 ↗ questions first it's always

27:49 ↗ good to just kind of take a step back

27:52 ↗ and take the temperature

27:53 ↗ and see how we're doing um but in

27:56 ↗ particular last year

27:57 ↗ there were a lot of changes and no

27:59 ↗ surprise right

28:00 ↗ 2020 the year of of change and different

28:04 ↗ things

28:05 ↗ but ppc uh in their in your own unique

28:08 ↗ way so for this commission

28:10 ↗ you were affected by some staff turnover

28:15 ↗ long time staff member trish hannan

28:18 ↗ retired last year

28:19 ↗ and so um so your direct staff that

28:22 ↗ you've been used to working with has

28:23 ↗ changed

28:24 ↗ some new faces uh and um there was also

28:28 ↗ a not a small amount of commissioner

28:32 ↗ turnover we had some commissioners who

28:34 ↗ resigned their seats or or

28:37 ↗ let us know that they would be resigning

28:40 ↗ from their seats in the future

28:42 ↗ and um so you know that was that

28:45 ↗ made me take pause and see okay what

28:48 ↗ what's going on

28:49 ↗ is there a trend in feedback is

28:51 ↗ everything okay

28:52 ↗ um and of course virtual meetings

28:55 ↗ was all new for all of our city council

28:58 ↗ and commission and board meetings

29:00 ↗ and so it seems like a really good time

29:01 ↗ to check in as we

29:03 ↗ enter into what i hope is our final

29:05 ↗ phase of the pandemic

29:07 ↗ um to see you know how we can improve

29:10 ↗ things moving forward

29:12 ↗ and what it is that we might need to

29:14 ↗ improve next kristin

29:16 ↗ thanks so here's what i heard in terms

29:19 ↗ of successes or

29:21 ↗ and again i'm talking about high level

29:23 ↗ themes i'm not going to share every

29:24 ↗ single

29:25 ↗ bit of feedback that i heard from you

29:28 ↗ but here's the things that i found

29:29 ↗ and to be in common among many or most

29:32 ↗ of you

29:34 ↗ these are things that are going well

29:36 ↗ things that maybe we should keep doing

29:38 ↗ closing the loop providing updates on

29:40 ↗ what happens

29:41 ↗ to ppc's recommendations so as you

29:44 ↗ consider a policy uh or consider a code

29:48 ↗ change and that goes to city council

29:50 ↗ letting you know

29:51 ↗ what happened with your recommendation

29:54 ↗ what were the

29:54 ↗ what was the discussion that council

29:56 ↗ like um

29:58 ↗ did they change your recommendation or

30:00 ↗ did they

30:01 ↗ wholeheartedly agree with your

30:03 ↗ recommendation and move it forward so

30:05 ↗ that's something that we really tried to

30:06 ↗ be more

30:08 ↗ that we tried to do more uh consistently

30:12 ↗ and be more conscious about doing that

30:14 ↗ last year

30:15 ↗ especially in the past i'd say maybe six

30:17 ↗ months of the year

30:18 ↗ and it's something that we would we've

30:21 ↗ heard from you that that's been good and

30:23 ↗ we should do more of that and make sure

30:24 ↗ that that's a regular part of the

30:26 ↗ meeting

30:27 ↗ i heard from you that most of you can

30:30 ↗ really feel your impact and you feel

30:32 ↗ like ppc has

30:33 ↗ a positive role to play that makes a

30:35 ↗ great impact in the community

30:37 ↗ and how issaquah is shaped in the future

30:40 ↗ which is fantastic

30:42 ↗ and um i heard general uh

30:45 ↗ agreement from you from the various

30:48 ↗ members

30:49 ↗ on what uh the purpose or the role of

30:52 ↗ the planning policy commission what i

30:53 ↗ heard from you

30:54 ↗ is that you thought that your job was to

30:57 ↗ improve upon things

30:58 ↗ that typically staff bring forward

31:02 ↗ and you know i heard what that means

31:04 ↗ some people said

31:05 ↗ our job is to tear it apart and

31:08 ↗ and to make sure that um

31:12 ↗ the policies that we're considering are

31:14 ↗ the right policies

31:16 ↗ that they solve the problems that need

31:17 ↗ to be solved um

31:19 ↗ that we're thinking of all the options

31:22 ↗ and

31:22 ↗ really making sure that uh um

31:26 ↗ you know if staff are missing anything

31:28 ↗ or if the administration is missing

31:29 ↗ anything

31:30 ↗ that you can point that out to us um

31:33 ↗ which is

31:34 ↗ a little bit different than starting

31:37 ↗ from scratch

31:38 ↗ and drafting a policy yourself

31:41 ↗ so that's that's what i heard from most

31:44 ↗ of you

31:45 ↗ and then um i also heard something that

31:48 ↗ we're doing well

31:49 ↗ is uh support and the staffing for

31:52 ↗ the commission that even though the

31:54 ↗ there's been a transition

31:56 ↗ from somebody that you've worked with

31:57 ↗ for a long time

31:59 ↗ i've i've heard positive things from you

32:01 ↗ about kristin and the staffing and

32:02 ↗ support that you've received

32:04 ↗ over the past year and that's great

32:05 ↗ thank you very much we appreciate that

32:07 ↗ sincerely

32:09 ↗ um next slide please kristin we talked

32:13 ↗ about

32:14 ↗ things to improve things we can do

32:16 ↗ better things we should consider

32:18 ↗ for the future and uh things that we can

32:21 ↗ do better

32:21 ↗ include providing more background and

32:24 ↗ context for the issues

32:26 ↗ so what's what's the history of this

32:28 ↗ conversation

32:29 ↗ or what's the purpose why is this thing

32:31 ↗ coming to ppc now

32:33 ↗ um why why what problem is this trying

32:36 ↗ to solve

32:38 ↗ um and uh just giving a little bit more

32:43 ↗ background in context and then

32:47 ↗ i also heard that commissioners want

32:50 ↗ help with focusing the feedback by

32:53 ↗ providing discussion or policy questions

32:55 ↗ that

32:56 ↗ sometimes we might hand you a large

32:59 ↗ document that's 70 pages long or

33:01 ↗ even more and you know just

33:06 ↗ handing that over to you and then saying

33:07 ↗ so what do you think and that's a really

33:09 ↗ hard way to open a conversation

33:11 ↗ really hard way to have a good

33:13 ↗ productive discussion around that

33:15 ↗ because what i heard from you is that

33:17 ↗ it's hard to determine what level

33:19 ↗ of feedback that the administration is

33:22 ↗ really seeking what level of feedback is

33:24 ↗ the city council

33:25 ↗ i'm needing from you and to help focus

33:28 ↗ some of your review of those documents

33:31 ↗ and policies to help focus some of the

33:34 ↗ discussions that occur

33:35 ↗ in the meeting and then um

33:39 ↗ and then i heard that uh similarly

33:42 ↗ as we hand over some of these large long

33:45 ↗ documents

33:46 ↗ that sometimes in the past we have not

33:48 ↗ redlined those documents

33:50 ↗ so you might not be able to see what

33:52 ↗ changes were occurring

33:54 ↗ or what changes are recommended from

33:56 ↗ version one to version two

33:58 ↗ if you've given us feedback on something

33:59 ↗ that you think this is the wrong

34:01 ↗ direction we've tried to fix it

34:03 ↗ not always evident in the packet what

34:05 ↗ exactly we've changed

34:07 ↗ and so and sometimes these documents are

34:10 ↗ very long and having to compare those

34:12 ↗ versions without a redline version is

34:13 ↗ difficult

34:16 ↗ i also heard that

34:19 ↗ that it would be helpful to outline the

34:21 ↗ ppc role

34:22 ↗ on each agenda item versus counsel and

34:25 ↗ other boards so

34:27 ↗ where do we need ppc's unique

34:29 ↗ perspective

34:30 ↗ and unique feedback um your unique

34:33 ↗ criticism

34:34 ↗ uh on each of these items and what that

34:36 ↗ looks like versus maybe what council

34:38 ↗ might be considering

34:39 ↗ um or other boards and certainly to let

34:42 ↗ you know what that process looks like

34:45 ↗ as it moves through different boards and

34:47 ↗ that's i think especially true as we

34:49 ↗ uh look forward to the title 18 updates

34:52 ↗ where

34:53 ↗ multiple boards are involved in the

34:55 ↗ review of some of these policies and

34:56 ↗ some of these code items

34:58 ↗ um at least that's what we anticipate

35:02 ↗ and then um i heard concerns about

35:05 ↗ future leadership

35:06 ↗ of the group itself so not necessarily

35:09 ↗ from a staffing perspective but that we

35:11 ↗ should be

35:11 ↗ i'm really conscientious about who we

35:14 ↗ recruit

35:15 ↗ as members how we decide how the mayor

35:18 ↗ decides to make those appointments

35:20 ↗ and just make sure that we continue to

35:22 ↗ have a really

35:23 ↗ great productive and thoughtful group

35:28 ↗ so uh those were the things that i heard

35:31 ↗ that we can

35:31 ↗ uh consider for the future or things

35:34 ↗ that we need to improve upon

35:36 ↗ next slide please so now we get to the

35:40 ↗ discussion and trying to practice some

35:42 ↗ of the things that we've heard

35:43 ↗ i've provided some discussion questions

35:45 ↗ to help focus the discussion today

35:48 ↗ so i would appreciate if you have any

35:51 ↗ questions certainly let's handle those

35:53 ↗ first

35:53 ↗ otherwise i really just want to take

35:55 ↗ this time to open up the floor

35:57 ↗ and say you know does this generally

35:59 ↗ reflect the things

36:01 ↗ that you feel are going well and the

36:02 ↗ things you would like to see more of in

36:04 ↗ the future

36:06 ↗ how how there's excuse me for the typo

36:09 ↗ sorry about that how is the virtual

36:11 ↗ meeting format going are any changes

36:14 ↗ that we should consider to make the

36:16 ↗ virtual format work better i hadn't

36:17 ↗ heard anything

36:18 ↗ um from you when we had these feedback

36:21 ↗ discussions but i'd love

36:22 ↗ if you have any points to make on that

36:24 ↗ i'd love to hear them and then

36:27 ↗ as we look to help on board our newest

36:30 ↗ members or

36:32 ↗ the members we expect will join us

36:34 ↗ mid-year

36:35 ↗ what else should we be thinking about to

36:37 ↗ make sure that

36:38 ↗ ppc is operating if you would like it to

36:41 ↗ operate and serving the community in the

36:43 ↗ best way it can

36:44 ↗ and and finally did did we miss anything

36:47 ↗ what else

36:48 ↗ haven't we talked about that we should

36:49 ↗ talk about and so with that i'd

36:52 ↗ turn it over to the commissioners for

36:53 ↗ any questions you have or a thoughts on

36:55 ↗ any one of these questions

37:01 ↗ so i i mean i i generally liked

37:05 ↗ everything you presented i thought it

37:07 ↗ was all appropriate

37:09 ↗ and things that we've all you know over

37:12 ↗ the years

37:12 ↗ kind of discussed and wanted to happen

37:17 ↗ i just want to look at number three and

37:20 ↗ not only to help our newest members but

37:24 ↗ you know joy made a comment

37:27 ↗ about uh explaining what the different

37:30 ↗ facilities

37:31 ↗ means and i don't think that

37:35 ↗ um the new members you know

37:38 ↗ get enough of that you know maybe we

37:41 ↗ should put together some of the basic

37:42 ↗ things that

37:44 ↗ explanation of of what they are

37:47 ↗ um i don't you know it takes a while to

37:50 ↗ keep it all

37:51 ↗ straight and so maybe we can

37:54 ↗ uh help them a little bit more

37:58 ↗ i think if they were more understanding

38:01 ↗ of some of the

38:03 ↗ discussion items they would be more

38:05 ↗ involved in the

38:07 ↗ discussion itself

38:13 ↗ so we have a comment from

38:16 ↗ commissioner voice

38:20 ↗ no i hope we have a comment from

38:24 ↗ from commissioner fall thank you madam

38:27 ↗ mayor's commissioner fall

38:28 ↗ so two points of feedback

38:32 ↗ um to jones point i think that is

38:35 ↗ absolutely imperative

38:36 ↗ um i think she's she nailed it um

38:40 ↗ uh hit the nail on the head

38:44 ↗ or hit the head on the nail rather

38:47 ↗ in getting things like the cip

38:50 ↗ maybe out to the new members so that

38:52 ↗ they can actually read it

38:54 ↗ as well as expl explanation of the t of

38:57 ↗ the tip

38:59 ↗ and some of the things we've gone over

39:01 ↗ with the old town uh standards and so on

39:03 ↗ so that they

39:05 ↗ can see it before we dive into

39:07 ↗ conversations that

39:09 ↗ that focus on those on those uh

39:12 ↗ documents

39:12 ↗ and so that way they have some

39:14 ↗ familiarity before they get bombarded

39:16 ↗ with

39:17 ↗ a packet i think that would be great to

39:20 ↗ be proactive

39:21 ↗ and then my second point of feedback on

39:24 ↗ number two

39:24 ↗ the virtual format i think they're

39:26 ↗ absolutely outstanding i love the

39:28 ↗ virtual format

39:30 ↗ i think it's also important though that

39:32 ↗ we have

39:33 ↗ some time to be able to meet each other

39:35 ↗ in person and that way that we can build

39:37 ↗ a camaraderie

39:39 ↗ um with the new members as well but i

39:42 ↗ really like the virtual feedbacks

39:43 ↗ or the virtual meetings so i think

39:45 ↗ they're awesome and i think christian's

39:47 ↗ doing a fantastic job by the way

39:52 ↗ thank you hats off i know that's a lot

39:53 ↗ of work too especially answering our

39:55 ↗ questions

39:56 ↗ and going through the slides and all the

39:58 ↗ prep work

39:59 ↗ it uh the quality workmanship from you

40:02 ↗ is act

40:03 ↗ is outstanding i think and i think

40:04 ↗ you're doing a great job

40:06 ↗ helping ppc thank you

40:11 ↗ i think i will miss uh andrea

40:15 ↗ when she is off doing her her real job

40:18 ↗ and not part of our discussion i found

40:21 ↗ that

40:22 ↗ i enjoyed listening to the way she

40:25 ↗ presents and her knowledge of the

40:27 ↗ different uh different things that we

40:30 ↗ talk about

40:31 ↗ so i second that

40:35 ↗ you all are too kind thank you very much

40:38 ↗ i know chris and i both

40:39 ↗ appreciate appreciate it so thank you

40:42 ↗ but

40:43 ↗ what else can we do better

40:49 ↗ um i think i've lost i have a

40:52 ↗ comment from commissioner voice

40:57 ↗ thank you chair parobola commissioner

40:59 ↗ voice here thank you deputy

41:01 ↗ administrator

41:02 ↗ snyder and thank you senior planner

41:04 ↗ leeson i think i got everybody

41:08 ↗ so there's a lot of things i think as

41:10 ↗ far as

41:12 ↗ this discussion that i think are going

41:13 ↗ well and i think they should also be

41:15 ↗ pointed out

41:16 ↗ the targeted packets and the agendas

41:18 ↗ that you guys i think have been putting

41:20 ↗ out now for about six months are very

41:22 ↗ helpful

41:23 ↗ um i enjoy actually reading them i

41:25 ↗ believe in

41:26 ↗ in 2018 they were a little bit less

41:28 ↗ focused kind of to

41:30 ↗ ms snyder's point you get these big

41:33 ↗ packets of paper

41:34 ↗ and again the conversation would kind of

41:36 ↗ go here and there and uh

41:38 ↗ i don't think we need any help doing

41:40 ↗ that part of it but it's helpful

41:42 ↗ when we have these little sub sub lines

41:44 ↗ that kind of point us in the right

41:45 ↗ direction what

41:46 ↗ you guys are actually looking for what

41:48 ↗ the council is looking for

41:49 ↗ so i applaud that i think that's a great

41:51 ↗ addition to these agenda items and

41:53 ↗ agenda packets the other thing i would

41:55 ↗ say

41:57 ↗ is the context in history and tonight

42:01 ↗ um senior planner lisa did a great job

42:03 ↗ with that so

42:04 ↗ giving us context giving us history of

42:06 ↗ why we're discussing certain things

42:08 ↗ it's not only helpful for uh new members

42:12 ↗ it's helpful for me and i know it's

42:14 ↗ helpful for all the people that are

42:15 ↗ watching us

42:16 ↗ so it takes a brief minute but just

42:19 ↗ explaining why we're going through the

42:21 ↗ docket process what it actually means is

42:23 ↗ incredibly helpful

42:24 ↗ and again it doesn't need to be a long

42:26 ↗ presentation about it but just the

42:27 ↗ context right there

42:29 ↗ and that's something i've seen really

42:30 ↗ step up in the last month maybe two

42:32 ↗ months so that is fantastic so

42:34 ↗ kudos for both points and then i also

42:36 ↗ appreciate

42:37 ↗ miss schneider deputy administrator

42:40 ↗ snyder's point

42:41 ↗ as far as checking in um it doesn't need

42:43 ↗ to be

42:44 ↗ a quarterly thing and i think we talked

42:46 ↗ about this uh privately

42:48 ↗ but checking in and seeing kind of where

42:50 ↗ we're at and how we're all doing i think

42:52 ↗ that's important for the health of

42:54 ↗ any type of organization so i applaud

42:57 ↗ you ms snyder for doing that earlier

42:59 ↗ or late last year so i think those are

43:02 ↗ all

43:03 ↗ great things worthy of commendation and

43:07 ↗ as far as for our newer members i think

43:10 ↗ what i did when i started was pretty i

43:12 ↗ don't know if it was unique but i had

43:14 ↗ the opportunity to sit with

43:16 ↗ miss uh i'm going to butcher her last

43:18 ↗ name miss hennenen

43:20 ↗ trish i know it was trish and that was

43:23 ↗ very helpful for me

43:24 ↗ and i know you guys took the opportunity

43:26 ↗ to do that uh recently

43:28 ↗ so i think i would i would imagine

43:31 ↗ everybody was very thankful for that

43:33 ↗ but like i said i see a lot of i think a

43:36 ↗ lot of common effort to make this

43:39 ↗ a better organization a better

43:41 ↗ commission and i i think it's part and

43:43 ↗ parcel because of the feedback we were

43:45 ↗ able to give

43:46 ↗ and also from the the efforts of staff

43:48 ↗ like yourself so

43:50 ↗ i'm very pleased very happy thank you

43:55 ↗ i have a comment from commissioner lewis

43:58 ↗ thank you commissioner joy lewis is here

44:01 ↗ um i'd like to

44:02 ↗ jump on the accolades um and support the

44:04 ↗ transition that happened

44:05 ↗ with staff we were all um sad to lose

44:08 ↗ trish

44:09 ↗ is an understatement but um to say that

44:12 ↗ kristen's done a wonderful job

44:13 ↗ transitioning as an understatement

44:14 ↗ considering

44:16 ↗ our virtual format so i want to jump on

44:17 ↗ that bandwagon

44:19 ↗ i want to say too that when we talk

44:21 ↗ about virtual formats

44:22 ↗ i think one of the biggest things that

44:24 ↗ we need to think about is um

44:25 ↗ changing the way that we communicate

44:28 ↗ what's uh the city agenda is to the

44:30 ↗ staff

44:30 ↗ i mean to sorry to the public right so

44:32 ↗ the traditional spaces that we used to

44:34 ↗ have

44:35 ↗ in the neighborhood when walking and

44:36 ↗ discussing hey did you know that this is

44:38 ↗ coming up

44:39 ↗ um you know i'm really petitioning hard

44:41 ↗ because i really want a site you know a

44:42 ↗ new sidewalk put in or the different

44:44 ↗ ways that we used to communicate are

44:46 ↗ changed right and in effect

44:48 ↗ limited and i would love to see from

44:49 ↗ staff suggestions of how are we getting

44:51 ↗ out

44:52 ↗ information to the public i know that we

44:54 ↗ have obviously the mandatory things of

44:56 ↗ when we

44:56 ↗ post we have our city website but how

45:00 ↗ are we using

45:01 ↗ the new ways we use our public space to

45:03 ↗ really communicate

45:04 ↗ and encourage involvement in what we're

45:06 ↗ doing to be able to draw in more people

45:09 ↗ you know i think about um one of my

45:11 ↗ favorite local places to go these days

45:13 ↗ since i

45:13 ↗ don't go anywhere is the pcc and we used

45:16 ↗ to always have the wall they would put

45:17 ↗ on that would have

45:18 ↗ the different events and concerts that

45:19 ↗ were happening around the sound

45:22 ↗ um maybe it's a matter of the graphics

45:24 ↗ department putting up and saying hey in

45:25 ↗ the next month

45:26 ↗ you know are you interested in what's

45:27 ↗ happening here in this park or

45:29 ↗ i'm just finding new ways for people who

45:31 ↗ are having a more limited

45:33 ↗ interaction with their neighbors to

45:34 ↗ still have this forum to be able to know

45:36 ↗ hey

45:36 ↗ you know this is going on i do care and

45:39 ↗ i want to be able to make my comments so

45:40 ↗ i think

45:41 ↗ that's an interesting thing um obviously

45:43 ↗ the technical hitches

45:44 ↗ um have been pretty flawless from staff

45:46 ↗ as far as creating a virtual environment

45:48 ↗ i think it's how do we create a virtual

45:50 ↗ community

45:51 ↗ it's a discussion that really should be

45:52 ↗ had um as we um

45:55 ↗ don't necessarily see a big end in sight

45:57 ↗ right to how do we

45:58 ↗ how do we change the way that we are

46:00 ↗ communicating with our constituents i

46:02 ↗ think is

46:03 ↗ important um as far as onboarding goes

46:06 ↗ um i will say that the best way to dig

46:08 ↗ through this is a big document dump i

46:10 ↗ know when i joined um

46:11 ↗ now defunct uvdc i needed to go through

46:14 ↗ right the whole development agreement to

46:16 ↗ really give a context

46:18 ↗ and that gives you the availability to

46:20 ↗ say hey

46:21 ↗ why was this done how was it done and to

46:24 ↗ really give a perspective so

46:26 ↗ having those documents available um

46:29 ↗ whether it's a sharepoint or however of

46:30 ↗ saying hey these are the things that

46:32 ↗ you're going to want to know about i

46:34 ↗ found terribly useful when i came into

46:36 ↗ this role

46:37 ↗ and i agree red line documents make a

46:39 ↗ huge difference right you reading them

46:41 ↗ in a legislative format

46:43 ↗ um is for me very easy crisp

46:46 ↗ clean so i like encouraging that

46:49 ↗ um i will say that there is something on

46:52 ↗ improving the themes um

46:53 ↗ you know andrea we talked about this and

46:56 ↗ you would ask me you know do you think

46:57 ↗ it would be helped to focus

46:59 ↗ um the discussion with paul you know the

47:01 ↗ policy questions

47:02 ↗ and i personally disagreed i think that

47:05 ↗ when staff gives me a finding of fact

47:07 ↗ that's exactly what you're asking me to

47:08 ↗ do so

47:10 ↗ i've never experienced in this

47:12 ↗ particular board that there's been a

47:14 ↗ lack of discussion i've never found that

47:16 ↗ we

47:17 ↗ are one for questions or depending what

47:20 ↗ you throw at us we generally are able to

47:22 ↗ step up and say hey let's talk about

47:24 ↗ this

47:24 ↗ so i would just caution it right i don't

47:27 ↗ disagree with it but i would say that i

47:28 ↗ think that

47:30 ↗ what i don't want to see happen is a

47:31 ↗ pigeon hole right what i don't want to

47:33 ↗ see is staff saying this is exactly what

47:34 ↗ we want to hear about from you

47:36 ↗ because i think that that can kind of

47:38 ↗ destroy the whole atmosphere that we're

47:40 ↗ bringing right we want to create a space

47:41 ↗ for the public to come

47:43 ↗ and discuss what's happening with these

47:44 ↗ code changes so um

47:46 ↗ i just want to add a little bit of

47:48 ↗ caution whether it's warranted or not

47:50 ↗ um so um i do think that we know what

47:53 ↗ you want because you

47:54 ↗ tell us this is what you're voting on

47:56 ↗ right are you gonna are you gonna put

47:58 ↗ your name to this so we have a pretty

47:59 ↗ clear idea of what it is that you are

48:01 ↗ asking

48:02 ↗ um and i think i think that's it i hope

48:05 ↗ that that helps

48:06 ↗ actually give a little more feedback on

48:08 ↗ on things that can be helpful and i also

48:09 ↗ want to conclude by just saying

48:11 ↗ that i really appreciated you reaching

48:12 ↗ out um i don't know if this

48:14 ↗ is going to become a regular thing i

48:16 ↗ recognize we had a really unique year

48:18 ↗ but when staff has the availability i

48:20 ↗ think it's great to feel heard it's

48:21 ↗ great to be able to kind of

48:23 ↗ continue to refine our process so i

48:25 ↗ really appreciated it

48:26 ↗ and having it become whether it's an

48:28 ↗ annual thing or um

48:30 ↗ you know whether it's every two years

48:31 ↗ depending on how appointments change

48:32 ↗ over in the commission

48:34 ↗ um i really encourage it so thank you

48:37 ↗ so much follow up with uh

48:40 ↗ commissioner lewis made a comment of uh

48:45 ↗ that we as a commission have

48:48 ↗ had no problem discussing and making

48:51 ↗ comments and suggesting things

48:53 ↗ uh and speaking out so um i just want to

48:57 ↗ make sure that the new

48:59 ↗ commissioners understand their role and

49:04 ↗ help us and continue the

49:07 ↗ great conversations that we've had in

49:08 ↗ the past so

49:10 ↗ i have a comment from our

49:13 ↗ senior planner leeson

49:16 ↗ so this is kristin leeson and i actually

49:18 ↗ have a comment and a question

49:20 ↗ and commissioner lewis had just

49:21 ↗ mentioned virtually reaching out

49:24 ↗ to the community and i did not know that

49:28 ↗ we were doing this but apparently are so

49:29 ↗ i just kind of want to get the word out

49:31 ↗ on february 2nd

49:32 ↗ i am attending an old town meeting

49:36 ↗ and i was invited to talk about all of

49:38 ↗ the

49:39 ↗ old town code amendments that were

49:41 ↗ approved in july

49:43 ↗ and then the architectural standards

49:46 ↗ assuming hoping um that those get

49:49 ↗ approved on february 1st

49:51 ↗ and just to kind of get the word out

49:52 ↗ about that so i just i didn't know these

49:54 ↗ were going on and just

49:56 ↗ thought it's a good thing to know and

49:57 ↗ keep keep your eyes open for these

49:59 ↗ events um another one my

50:02 ↗ first my initial question though was you

50:05 ↗ all have brought up a few times

50:06 ↗ onboarding the new members and i it's

50:08 ↗ really directed to the new members

50:10 ↗ but it would you want to meet because

50:15 ↗ commissioner voice is right he did meet

50:16 ↗ with several times with

50:17 ↗ uh trishayna when she was here just to

50:20 ↗ kind of catch up

50:21 ↗ and would you all like to meet three

50:24 ↗ times or so

50:25 ↗ as a group of three virtually to

50:29 ↗ take three items at a time and say let's

50:32 ↗ work our way through the weeds of the

50:34 ↗ comprehensive plan

50:36 ↗ and the central issaquah plan and the

50:38 ↗ old town

50:39 ↗ sudbury plant and then the next time we

50:41 ↗ could talk about the code

50:42 ↗ and why we're updating it and what's

50:44 ↗ going on there the land use code

50:45 ↗ and maybe the next time some

50:47 ↗ transportation items even though we

50:48 ↗ don't get those as much anymore

50:50 ↗ because there's a transportation

50:51 ↗ advisory board but things that still

50:53 ↗ will be related to

50:56 ↗ our group or maybe even regional groups

50:58 ↗ the puget sound regional council

51:00 ↗ the a regional coalition for housing

51:02 ↗ those different groups that

51:03 ↗ we talk about all the time and you all

51:06 ↗ would probably need to know

51:07 ↗ why and how so is that something that

51:09 ↗ you would want to do

51:11 ↗ and or commission as a whole

51:14 ↗ would you want updates on this kind of

51:16 ↗ stuff and maybe we at a meeting

51:18 ↗ pick one of those topics and talk about

51:20 ↗ it there

51:22 ↗ i think that's a great idea at a meeting

51:26 ↗ and take one of the one of the topics

51:28 ↗ that uh

51:30 ↗ maybe we're not even discussing but

51:31 ↗ might you know filter in or something

51:34 ↗ that's going on in the city that maybe

51:36 ↗ we should know about

51:37 ↗ in order to comment on what we are

51:40 ↗ supposed to be discussing

51:42 ↗ um i don't see any of the

51:45 ↗ new people new commissioners on my

51:47 ↗ screen

51:48 ↗ right now so i don't know if they would

51:51 ↗ be

51:52 ↗ interested in

51:56 ↗ in meeting can i have a thumbs up or

51:59 ↗ something or

52:00 ↗ are you guys okay so that that even

52:03 ↗ jason would like to uh

52:05 ↗ to uh come as a new member that he can

52:08 ↗ just sneak in

52:09 ↗ in the back door and just be part of the

52:11 ↗ discussion but limited to

52:14 ↗ um andrea i assume that it's

52:18 ↗ illegal to meet with three but no more

52:20 ↗ than three right

52:21 ↗ okay so we will um

52:24 ↗ somehow in their spare time

52:28 ↗ um our two leaders here will make that

52:31 ↗ happen

52:33 ↗ so i have a question from our comment

52:35 ↗ from

52:36 ↗ commissioner milligan

52:43 ↗ thank you this is commissioner milligan

52:45 ↗ and i

52:46 ↗ am new so nobody talked to me about

52:48 ↗ these things before but i'm glad to

52:50 ↗ participate in the conversation because

52:52 ↗ i'm really excited to be on this

52:53 ↗ commission and i've served on

52:55 ↗ a few others in the city and and there

52:57 ↗ are things that i have

52:59 ↗ really enjoyed so i wanted to chime in

53:02 ↗ with those things that i

53:03 ↗ thought were very helpful in and one and

53:06 ↗ i do want to say at the beginning that

53:08 ↗ everything that people

53:09 ↗ have said already are

53:13 ↗ a plus one on all of those

53:16 ↗ and the um the thing i wanted to add was

53:19 ↗ that even though

53:20 ↗ i i feel like i'm an experienced

53:22 ↗ commissioner board member

53:24 ↗ i still benefit every single time

53:27 ↗ when meeting management training is

53:29 ↗ provided

53:31 ↗ um i always need a reminder i always

53:33 ↗ want to feel as a member of a group

53:35 ↗ that we're all hearing the same

53:37 ↗ instructions the same time you know when

53:39 ↗ we when we

53:40 ↗ ask questions when we have a discussion

53:44 ↗ and it not only communicates to us and

53:46 ↗ reminds us of something this is our

53:48 ↗ volunteer gig you know we're doing

53:49 ↗ something else during the day

53:50 ↗ so it's nice to get that refresher

53:53 ↗ course but it also helps us get informed

53:55 ↗ at the same time on the same things as

53:57 ↗ the public

53:58 ↗ accounting to what commissioner lewis

54:00 ↗ was saying earlier to engage the public

54:02 ↗ in how we do things helps them

54:06 ↗ so i wondered if if that was a plan

54:09 ↗ for when we onboard the new members in

54:11 ↗ may uh i can wait for that

54:13 ↗ uh but i do think that it's um it's not

54:15 ↗ just for new people it's for all of us

54:17 ↗ so that we

54:18 ↗ participate in and it's kind of a bond

54:20 ↗ it's an agreement

54:21 ↗ yes this is how we're going to run

54:23 ↗ meetings so

54:25 ↗ that was my contribution and and thank

54:27 ↗ you very much i'm really excited to be

54:28 ↗ here i think

54:29 ↗ um so far so good i'm i'm very much

54:31 ↗ enjoying it the meetings are great

54:33 ↗ love the online format coveter not kovid

54:36 ↗ i love this so uh however you want to do

54:39 ↗ it going forward

54:40 ↗ thank you thank you may i ask a

54:43 ↗ follow-up question

54:44 ↗ absolutely great thank you this is

54:47 ↗ andrea snyder again

54:49 ↗ um so a commissioner uh milligan i'm

54:53 ↗ just

54:53 ↗ wondering if you can elaborate on

54:54 ↗ meeting management that mean

54:57 ↗ you know for some that means robert's

54:58 ↗ rules of order

55:00 ↗ um for some that just means talking

55:02 ↗ about

55:03 ↗ agreed-upon rules of how we conduct our

55:06 ↗ meetings

55:07 ↗ can you elaborate on that a little bit

55:09 ↗ more for me please

55:11 ↗ thank you uh you know maybe it's a

55:13 ↗ little bit of a combination

55:14 ↗ of both the the

55:17 ↗ robert's rules can be done very simply

55:19 ↗ and quickly and sometimes can be

55:22 ↗ commented on at the beginning of a

55:23 ↗ meeting you know we're going to have the

55:25 ↗ public hearing then the commissioner's

55:26 ↗ going to ask questions and then they're

55:28 ↗ going to do discussion then they're

55:29 ↗ going to have a motion and there's going

55:30 ↗ to be one

55:31 ↗ you know that kind of thing helps the

55:32 ↗ audience follow along

55:34 ↗ as well as setting us up to remind us

55:37 ↗ when we chime in about different things

55:40 ↗ but then the other is that my experience

55:43 ↗ is that each commission is run a little

55:45 ↗ differently we have different bylaws we

55:47 ↗ have different

55:47 ↗ timing for audience comments and

55:50 ↗ sometimes that's confusing to the public

55:53 ↗ there was a bit of a kerfuffle in my

55:54 ↗ last commission about whether it's three

55:56 ↗ minutes or five minutes that kind of

55:58 ↗ thing

55:59 ↗ so talking about the differences

56:02 ↗ and what this commission does does that

56:04 ↗ help

56:08 ↗ yeah thank you so i have a comment from

56:10 ↗ commissioner carl

56:16 ↗ you this is janice carl um

56:19 ↗ first of all i would like to thank

56:22 ↗ everyone involved including my fellow

56:24 ↗ commissioners in providing feedback

56:26 ↗ in processing the feedback and in taking

56:29 ↗ it forward

56:30 ↗ in the goodness of heart with which it

56:31 ↗ was offered

56:33 ↗ and i agree with all the themes that you

56:36 ↗ presented

56:38 ↗ here in your presentation i just have a

56:41 ↗ couple of little comments

56:42 ↗ um with regard to the providing points

56:46 ↗ of focus for the discussion

56:48 ↗ i i wholeheartedly think that those will

56:51 ↗ help

56:51 ↗ especially the newer members of the

56:54 ↗ commission

56:56 ↗ focus their review of documents and

56:58 ↗ issues

56:59 ↗ and prepare their feedback but i also

57:02 ↗ agree

57:02 ↗ with joy's thoughts that those should

57:05 ↗ not be the exclusive

57:08 ↗ uh purview of comments that everyone

57:10 ↗ should be feel free to raise

57:11 ↗ other issues but it's nice to have to

57:14 ↗ know whether you're looking at this from

57:15 ↗ the thirty thousand foot or the

57:17 ↗ ten thousand foot level um

57:22 ↗ i also agree that i think the virtual

57:24 ↗ meetings have been

57:25 ↗ fabulous from our perspective but i do

57:28 ↗ think there's been a substantive

57:30 ↗ challenge with regard to getting

57:32 ↗ public comment into the meetings

57:35 ↗ effectively

57:36 ↗ a lot of people feeling challenged with

57:38 ↗ all of the on and off buttons for muting

57:41 ↗ and so on and so forth and i so i even

57:44 ↗ though i like

57:44 ↗ personally virtual meetings i think it

57:47 ↗ will be

57:47 ↗ much more comfortable for the public if

57:49 ↗ we can get back into

57:52 ↗ the in-person venue sooner as soon as we

57:54 ↗ can

57:56 ↗ um

58:00 ↗ i absolutely concur with commissioner

58:02 ↗ lewis's thoughts on

58:04 ↗ encouraging more community public

58:06 ↗ involvement with what we're doing

58:08 ↗ and i've said several times to a number

58:10 ↗ of people that

58:14 ↗ there's a lot of apathy in the issue

58:17 ↗ population

58:18 ↗ about things that happen at the planning

58:20 ↗ policy level

58:22 ↗ but once the rubber hits the road and

58:24 ↗ there's something being built down the

58:25 ↗ street from them

58:26 ↗ it's a huge bruha

58:29 ↗ and and they need to understand more

58:32 ↗ that the time to get involved is early

58:36 ↗ and most importantly i think is they

58:39 ↗ need to understand

58:40 ↗ that the city has to make certain

58:43 ↗ decisions

58:44 ↗ has to set and pursue certain goals

58:47 ↗ because of exactly the reasons

58:49 ↗ that kristen laid out at the beginning

58:52 ↗ of the meeting tonight that

58:54 ↗ the growth management act the state

58:56 ↗ requires such

58:57 ↗ and we have to

59:00 ↗ conform with both state goals and

59:03 ↗ county goals for planning and meeting

59:06 ↗ goals for

59:07 ↗ jobs and population so a lot of people

59:10 ↗ will say

59:11 ↗ we don't think there should be any more

59:12 ↗ building we don't need any of our people

59:14 ↗ here really really we don't

59:16 ↗ but we do we have to take them and we

59:18 ↗ have to find a way to make it work

59:20 ↗ in a way for everyone um so i think but

59:24 ↗ my point is that if

59:25 ↗ there was some way um to

59:28 ↗ facilitate greater education about the

59:31 ↗ planning pressures that the city is

59:33 ↗ under it could

59:34 ↗ facilitate more public input at this

59:37 ↗ level

59:40 ↗ and i think that's all i had thank you

59:42 ↗ very much

59:44 ↗ so i have a comment from commissioner

59:46 ↗ monahan

59:48 ↗ i thank you matt monahan here i

59:51 ↗ 100 agree and look forward to attending

59:55 ↗ those

59:55 ↗ more intensive study sessions um on the

59:58 ↗ onboarding piece i

59:59 ↗ i think kristin has done a great job

1:00:01 ↗ about pointing you know me to the

1:00:03 ↗ documents that i need to be familiar

1:00:04 ↗ with

1:00:05 ↗ um but obviously you know reading

1:00:07 ↗ through you know a couple hundreds of

1:00:09 ↗ pages of code

1:00:10 ↗ is very different than actually being in

1:00:11 ↗ an interactive environment where we can

1:00:13 ↗ talk about not just the what but the

1:00:14 ↗ whys

1:00:15 ↗ uh and so i i really think that that a

1:00:18 ↗ supplemental education

1:00:19 ↗ will be a huge benefit at least to me

1:00:21 ↗ personally and giving kind of

1:00:23 ↗ life to these these documents that i've

1:00:25 ↗ already reviewed so kristin thank you

1:00:27 ↗ for sending them and thank you for

1:00:28 ↗ volunteering the time to

1:00:29 ↗ to help us understand the world that you

1:00:32 ↗ live in every day

1:00:33 ↗ so thank you so

1:00:36 ↗ when we're discussing three people

1:00:38 ↗ getting together

1:00:39 ↗ especially the the newer commission

1:00:42 ↗ members would it be

1:00:45 ↗ at all advantageous to have

1:00:48 ↗ two new members and one

1:00:54 ↗ previously i don't want to say old but

1:00:57 ↗ present members

1:00:59 ↗ uh in the discussion

1:01:02 ↗ with that you know and it would all

1:01:05 ↗ depend on

1:01:06 ↗ on the time that anybody has to to

1:01:08 ↗ devote to this but i think it would be a

1:01:10 ↗ it would be uh positive to um

1:01:13 ↗ have somebody that actually uh has gone

1:01:16 ↗ through it

1:01:17 ↗ and has asked the questions not just

1:01:19 ↗ from a staff perspective but from a

1:01:21 ↗ commission

1:01:23 ↗ perspective i know i would love to be

1:01:26 ↗ able to

1:01:26 ↗ um to be part of that besides the fact i

1:01:29 ↗ would love to get to

1:01:30 ↗ know the new mission members

1:01:33 ↗ you know and i think that would help all

1:01:36 ↗ of us

1:01:37 ↗ we don't get to sit on that uh big stage

1:01:40 ↗ at the city hall uh but it would

1:01:45 ↗ you know uh i always have believed that

1:01:47 ↗ if

1:01:48 ↗ you're you know who you're working with

1:01:51 ↗ and you can understand their comments

1:01:53 ↗ and where they're going

1:01:54 ↗ and you don't do that unless uh you can

1:01:57 ↗ actually see them and talk to them and

1:01:59 ↗ understand them

1:02:00 ↗ but i really like the this format

1:02:02 ↗ because

1:02:03 ↗ when we're in person i have a hard time

1:02:07 ↗ controlling you people you all want to

1:02:09 ↗ get in there and talk and now i have

1:02:11 ↗ you have to wait till i call on you and

1:02:14 ↗ it's awesome

1:02:15 ↗ let me tell you it's awesome i have a

1:02:17 ↗ comment from

1:02:18 ↗ commissioner voice

1:02:22 ↗ thank you chair provola i don't know if

1:02:24 ↗ i agree with that last comment

1:02:28 ↗ as far as the virtual meetings i i think

1:02:30 ↗ they're going as well as anybody could

1:02:32 ↗ be expected i

1:02:33 ↗ i do believe it this has been a

1:02:36 ↗ tremendous tool

1:02:37 ↗ to be able to have during this

1:02:39 ↗ challenging year in this challenging

1:02:40 ↗ time

1:02:41 ↗ i have to agree that i think it's

1:02:43 ↗ important that when we're able and when

1:02:45 ↗ we're capable that we do get back into

1:02:47 ↗ that great stage where we can

1:02:49 ↗ shout our questions and and shout down

1:02:52 ↗ the chair if need be

1:02:54 ↗ not necessarily because people are

1:02:56 ↗ terrible

1:02:58 ↗ mainly because some of the best things

1:03:01 ↗ that we've ever come up with happens in

1:03:02 ↗ that crossfire

1:03:03 ↗ absolutely and i do agree and to

1:03:06 ↗ commissioner

1:03:07 ↗ lewis's point i also think or maybe it

1:03:10 ↗ was commissioner carl's point

1:03:11 ↗ but it has been i think pretty difficult

1:03:15 ↗ for people as far as the public to

1:03:17 ↗ interact with us

1:03:18 ↗ although we're all now experts at webex

1:03:21 ↗ um trying to actually call in and you're

1:03:24 ↗ watching people struggle with what

1:03:25 ↗ button to push and people are echoing

1:03:28 ↗ it can be frustrating for someone who

1:03:29 ↗ hasn't been doing this for the last year

1:03:31 ↗ so i think we have all seen public

1:03:35 ↗ comment public participation drop even

1:03:38 ↗ though

1:03:38 ↗ this format has allowed us to continue

1:03:40 ↗ our work and

1:03:42 ↗ into the chairs point maybe in more

1:03:43 ↗ streamlined fashion but

1:03:45 ↗ i would think that it is important when

1:03:47 ↗ we can safely

1:03:48 ↗ to be able to get back to in person plus

1:03:51 ↗ i i do believe it also builds

1:03:52 ↗ camaraderie

1:03:53 ↗ as much as i like seeing you guys on my

1:03:55 ↗ screen i'd like to see you guys in

1:03:56 ↗ person much more

1:03:58 ↗ so i know that i know that's going to

1:04:00 ↗ happen with the governor and the

1:04:01 ↗ stay-at-home order

1:04:02 ↗ and things like that as we move into

1:04:03 ↗ phases but hopefully it's something that

1:04:05 ↗ staff and

1:04:06 ↗ and the administration are already

1:04:07 ↗ thinking about that's i know

1:04:09 ↗ i'm looking forward to it and i would

1:04:11 ↗ hope that the rest of you guys want to

1:04:13 ↗ see me too

1:04:14 ↗ so anyway that's my piece about the

1:04:17 ↗ virtual meeting but otherwise

1:04:19 ↗ it has worked really well for us so so i

1:04:22 ↗ really appreciate um

1:04:24 ↗ uh all of you and i appreciate your

1:04:27 ↗ comments and you can be very serious and

1:04:29 ↗ really dig into things but i also like

1:04:32 ↗ the

1:04:33 ↗ um little bit of humor that

1:04:37 ↗ uh comes through this it's this is a

1:04:40 ↗ volunteer commission

1:04:42 ↗ and it's always nice to enjoy

1:04:45 ↗ what you're doing therefore you're going

1:04:47 ↗ to be there at the meetings you're going

1:04:48 ↗ to make the comments you're going to do

1:04:50 ↗ the homework you're going to read the

1:04:52 ↗ 100 pages of of code that

1:04:57 ↗ were presented sometimes so um thank you

1:05:00 ↗ i don't see anybody else on the chat

1:05:04 ↗ does anybody else want to make anything

1:05:07 ↗ comments to deputy city administrator

1:05:11 ↗ snyder before we move on to the next

1:05:17 ↗ nothing except

1:05:20 ↗ uh andrew uh yeah i was gonna come back

1:05:22 ↗ to you

1:05:23 ↗ if you wanted to follow up and make um

1:05:26 ↗ did you get what you needed do you think

1:05:28 ↗ we need to

1:05:30 ↗ expand it where should we go with from

1:05:32 ↗ that

1:05:33 ↗ thank you very much everyone for your

1:05:36 ↗ comments

1:05:37 ↗ and your feedback tonight but also in

1:05:39 ↗ our individual meetings

1:05:41 ↗ i think i think that i have everything

1:05:44 ↗ that i was hoping to get out of this

1:05:46 ↗ evening so

1:05:47 ↗ my sincere appreciation for that and

1:05:50 ↗ with one small caveat which is

1:05:52 ↗ that while this check-in point with our

1:05:55 ↗ commissioners happened

1:05:57 ↗ you know at the end of the year in 2020

1:06:00 ↗ um

1:06:01 ↗ i want to make it very clear that i

1:06:04 ↗ always

1:06:04 ↗ want to hear from you as to how

1:06:07 ↗ we can better support you in your

1:06:10 ↗ volunteering for the community and your

1:06:12 ↗ service for the community

1:06:13 ↗ and the decisions that you have to make

1:06:15 ↗ this is very impactful commission

1:06:18 ↗ and sometimes you um have a really hard

1:06:20 ↗ task

1:06:22 ↗ and so you know please

1:06:25 ↗ don't be shy don't be afraid about

1:06:28 ↗ holding us accountable to the things

1:06:29 ↗ that we said that we're going to do

1:06:31 ↗ making sure that we do them please don't

1:06:33 ↗ be shy about

1:06:34 ↗ um about offering suggestions for

1:06:37 ↗ improvements or ideas

1:06:38 ↗ always want to hear that so just the

1:06:41 ↗ door is open

1:06:42 ↗ i want to make sure that that's clear

1:06:43 ↗ all right thank you very much

1:06:46 ↗ i think this has been a great discussion

1:06:48 ↗ i think everybody

1:06:49 ↗ would agree that this was something that

1:06:52 ↗ should have happened and

1:06:54 ↗ and we're really appreciative uh for you

1:06:57 ↗ for bringing this forward so

1:06:58 ↗ that's really cool thank you and great

1:07:01 ↗ presentation

1:07:02 ↗ and comments and there will be 150

1:07:05 ↗ comments on your email tomorrow from the

1:07:08 ↗ rest of us

1:07:09 ↗ um the next thing on our agenda is

1:07:12 ↗ reports and i don't

1:07:14 ↗ is uh is there any reports that we need

1:07:17 ↗ to discuss

1:07:21 ↗ this is kristin leeson and the only

1:07:23 ↗ thing i have to report

1:07:25 ↗ is that i mentioned it earlier but the

1:07:27 ↗ architectural standards

1:07:29 ↗ are going to city council for action on

1:07:32 ↗ monday february 1st and they are on

1:07:34 ↗ consent agenda

1:07:36 ↗ um so i yeah we'll see how that goes

1:07:40 ↗ that's all i have so the only other

1:07:43 ↗ thing sorry one last thing go ahead

1:07:46 ↗ thank you uh the only other thing i

1:07:49 ↗ wanted to make sure that you're aware of

1:07:50 ↗ is the electrical vehicle code

1:07:53 ↗ um that is going back

1:07:56 ↗ to gosh i think it was at the

1:07:58 ↗ environmental board

1:08:00 ↗ last night and then i think it has

1:08:04 ↗ another stop with city council

1:08:07 ↗ um i should have let me look this up

1:08:11 ↗ really quickly because i don't want to

1:08:12 ↗ give you the wrong

1:08:13 ↗ information so it's going to city

1:08:15 ↗ council for a study session on february

1:08:18 ↗ 9th

1:08:19 ↗ and just wanted to make sure that we're

1:08:21 ↗ kind of

1:08:22 ↗ following the process there this

1:08:25 ↗ commission talks about the electrical

1:08:26 ↗ vehicle code

1:08:28 ↗ it's going to come back to you following

1:08:30 ↗ the city council

1:08:32 ↗ conversation i think kristin's going to

1:08:33 ↗ talk a little bit about that future

1:08:35 ↗ calendar later but but if you wanted to

1:08:38 ↗ tune in and see

1:08:39 ↗ how that that policy is developing we

1:08:42 ↗ can also

1:08:44 ↗ of course bring back those comments to

1:08:45 ↗ you when megan returns to this

1:08:47 ↗ commission

1:08:48 ↗ with the electrical vehicle code

1:08:50 ↗ discussion again because she she will do

1:08:52 ↗ that following the city council

1:08:55 ↗ so um the last thing in our last meeting

1:08:58 ↗ we had asked kristin to

1:09:02 ↗ send us an email reminder of two

1:09:04 ↗ meetings

1:09:07 ↗ and i at the left for the life of me i

1:09:09 ↗ don't remember what those two meetings

1:09:10 ↗ were but i know we didn't get them

1:09:12 ↗ uh one i thought was the environmental

1:09:15 ↗ council

1:09:16 ↗ and the other one was or will be

1:09:19 ↗ for the uh study session on the first

1:09:25 ↗ or the council meeting on the first

1:09:26 ↗ which one is that

1:09:29 ↗ there's a council meeting february 1st

1:09:32 ↗ the council meeting you are right and i

1:09:34 ↗ apologize so i will send you the link

1:09:37 ↗ for the

1:09:38 ↗ environmental council meeting that

1:09:39 ↗ happened last night

1:09:42 ↗ but i i'm yeah i the the study session

1:09:44 ↗ is happening on

1:09:45 ↗ february 9th with the city council so

1:09:50 ↗ i can send you the link to that when

1:09:52 ↗ that comes out

1:09:53 ↗ or yeah i can send you the agenda when

1:09:56 ↗ that comes out

1:09:58 ↗ yeah but i will send you the link to the

1:10:00 ↗ meeting that happened last night

1:10:02 ↗ okay thank you yeah i apologize for that

1:10:06 ↗ um i do you want me to talk about

1:10:09 ↗ schedule really quickly

1:10:10 ↗ yes okay so yes uh

1:10:14 ↗ deputy administrators andrea sorry

1:10:18 ↗ um she it is

1:10:21 ↗ she got my february 11th date so on your

1:10:24 ↗ calendar right now we have february 11th

1:10:26 ↗ as a public hearing for ev

1:10:27 ↗ and that's not going to happen and we're

1:10:29 ↗ just not ready to schedule a date for

1:10:30 ↗ the public hearing yet so i don't know

1:10:32 ↗ when that's going to happen but it will

1:10:33 ↗ come back

1:10:34 ↗ and then on february 25th

1:10:38 ↗ we are scheduled to talk about the sign

1:10:40 ↗ code and title 18

1:10:42 ↗ however that is now going to be a joint

1:10:45 ↗ meeting with the economic vitality

1:10:48 ↗ commission on the 25th

1:10:49 ↗ so i imagine that that will be a very

1:10:51 ↗ very long conversation and a good

1:10:52 ↗ conversation

1:10:54 ↗ there will be code to look at that night

1:10:56 ↗ and so we will go ahead and probably

1:10:58 ↗ move the title 18

1:11:00 ↗ overview discussion a little later so

1:11:02 ↗ that you all could just

1:11:04 ↗ have all the discussion that you want to

1:11:05 ↗ have about the signs

1:11:07 ↗ on the 25th

1:11:12 ↗ that's all i have for schedules so far

1:11:15 ↗ i know the uh next thing on on the

1:11:18 ↗ agenda is public comments but

1:11:20 ↗ um seeing nobody on the

1:11:24 ↗ screen to make any public comments at

1:11:27 ↗ least

1:11:29 ↗ i would encourage people in the future

1:11:32 ↗ you know it works both ways for

1:11:36 ↗ public comment we might have gotten some

1:11:40 ↗ people that

1:11:41 ↗ weren't willing to come to uh

1:11:44 ↗ meet us that are more willing to just be

1:11:47 ↗ at home and make a comment

1:11:48 ↗ uh online so you get kind of both

1:11:52 ↗ uh both sides of this so um

1:11:56 ↗ anyway there won't be any public

1:11:59 ↗ comments but i'd like to know if there's

1:12:01 ↗ any

1:12:01 ↗ anything that uh you'd like to

1:12:06 ↗ discuss for the good of the order if

1:12:08 ↗ there's anything else that is on your

1:12:10 ↗ mind that

1:12:11 ↗ maybe isn't on the agenda this evening

1:12:14 ↗ but you might want to

1:12:16 ↗ bring up no

1:12:22 ↗ okay so hearing nothing

1:12:25 ↗ no nothing hearing no comments um

1:12:28 ↗ i'm going to close the meeting at 7 43

1:12:34 ↗ and wish you all a pleasant rest of the

1:12:37 ↗ evening

1:12:38 ↗ thank you for all your comments

1:12:42 ↗ christian good night thank you all thank

1:12:43 ↗ you good night everybody

1:12:45 ↗ good night

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Joan Probala, Chair Christen Leeson, Senior Planner Ron Faul, Vice Chair Andrea Snyder, Deputy City Administrator Janice Carle Joy Lewis Nina Milligan Matt Monahan Jason Voiss Richard Zaragoza, Alternate