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Monday, February 22, 2021

7:00 PM · 1h 20m
Section
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a
Membership
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of January 25, 2021
packet pp.3–26
Staff report:
• Project framework • Infill Information •
4. REGULAR BUSINESS
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Hillside Park & Blackberry Park - Project & Public Engagement Update
Director · 60 min · Jeff Watling, Parks and Community Services
Topics: Parks
5. REPORTS
5a
Chairperson's Report
5b
Director's Report
5c
Youth Report
0:04 okay good evening everyone
0:06 let's make call call call to order here
0:08 for our meeting of uh
0:10 february 22nd 2021
0:17 so with that
0:20 i'm gonna start tonight with a roll call
0:24 so when i call your name if you could
0:26 please unmute if you're muted
0:28 and just acknowledge your presence
0:31 uh reuben
0:36 uh jonathan present
0:41 chris president
0:45 uh jeremy
0:48 jeremy uh unmute and just say hello you
0:58 with us jeremy
1:00 i got a thumbs up from jeremy uh
1:03 danielle
1:06 danielle here thank you
1:10 and that covers all of us here so far
1:12 this evening
1:14 uh i'm going to start with the minutes
1:16 everybody have an opportunity to review
1:18 minutes
1:20 oh but i think i figured out the mute
1:21 button there we go
1:24 any uh comments questions about uh
1:27 last month's uh minutes
1:32 not seeing anything i'm gonna
1:35 change this out around a little bit
1:37 nowadays rather than voting on it
1:38 i'm just going to say are there any
1:40 objections to minutes from
1:42 our january meeting
1:46 i'm not seeing any objections so the
1:49 minutes
1:49 are hereby approved thank you for that
1:57 uh our next section is public comments
1:59 i'm not actually seeing
2:00 anyone with us from the community here
2:03 this evening
2:05 and uh jeff have you received any emails
2:08 or anyone
2:08 from the community that wanted to make a
2:12 comment
2:13 uh thanks brad no public comments
2:16 given to me uh in regards to park board
2:18 meeting tonight okay
2:20 public comments are closed
2:25 uh so we really only have one um
2:29 regular business item this evening
2:31 covering two areas which is going to be
2:32 hillside park and blackberry park
2:35 uh project uh update on that
2:38 we're actually having some public
2:40 engagement coming up here later this
2:42 week on that
2:44 so jeff it looks like uh this is your
2:48 show will take this item
2:51 uh thanks brad good evening everyone um
2:54 yeah we uh as you know as we've reviewed
2:57 our 2021 work plan
2:59 um these two projects are high priority
3:03 for city council and mayor as they
3:06 adopted the 2021 budget
3:09 both involve primarily play areas
3:13 one at hillside park really stemming
3:17 from
3:18 some extensive public engagement in 2014
3:20 and then
3:21 um as well blackberry park which is a
3:24 relatively new
3:26 uh park to the city of issaquah was
3:29 transferred from king county in 2017.
3:31 i thought tonight would be a great
3:33 opportunity before we even have our
3:36 public engagement
3:38 just to have a discussion and share with
3:41 you the approach
3:42 that we're taking to these projects and
3:44 also the approach that we're taking
3:46 uh to our neighborhood engagement effort
3:49 what i thought i'd do is give you all a
3:52 sneak peek
3:52 to the presentations that we're going to
3:54 be giving
3:56 on wednesday night wednesday night the
3:58 24th for those
4:00 in the audience that are listening we
4:01 have a webex
4:03 virtual meeting for hillside park
4:07 and then the next evening thursday night
4:09 the 25th of february
4:11 we have a webex virtual meeting in
4:14 regards to blackberry park
4:15 so i'm going to try and be tech savvy
4:18 here and share
4:18 my screen i'd love a thumbs up once i
4:23 do this are you all seeing a
4:27 hillside park play area photo
4:30 yep great
4:34 all right so um like i said
4:37 uh i think this is really a fun chance
4:40 to share with you
4:42 um approach that we're taking um i i
4:44 believe i
4:45 i shared in january that uh we've gone
4:47 through a selection process we've
4:49 selected
4:50 uh methune architects um as our
4:53 consultant team to help us with this
4:55 we've been working
4:56 with them on site analysis
5:01 the historical just materials
5:04 community outreach we've heard from both
5:06 of these parks
5:08 as well as really looking at and taking
5:10 a newer approach to
5:12 play in these park spaces and and and
5:15 play areas
5:16 um like i said these are our
5:18 presentations that we're going to share
5:20 uh with the community i'll go over
5:22 hillside park first and then
5:24 open it up for just feedback and
5:27 and questions um and thoughts that you
5:31 all might have
5:32 uh these both these projects are similar
5:34 and that we're looking at players but i
5:36 think what you'll find is that
5:38 the sites themselves have some real
5:41 unique elements
5:42 and unique um
5:46 discussions that we want to have with
5:47 the community so
5:49 hillside park first both evenings mayor
5:51 paulie will be joining us so she'll
5:54 open up with some comments and a welcome
5:56 to the to the community
5:58 my goal in sharing all this info with
6:00 you tonight is not necessarily to get
6:02 your
6:04 feedback on the questions we're going to
6:05 be asking but really
6:07 um or the questions themselves but
6:09 really just the the format and flow
6:11 um and what you think of this the agenda
6:15 for
6:15 the evening particularly hillside park
6:19 will be
6:20 really starting with the 2014 feedback
6:22 we heard from the community that that
6:24 will really
6:24 serve as the baseline uh for and is
6:28 serving for the baseline
6:29 of the project here at hillside park uh
6:32 we'll also spend some time talking about
6:34 the site analysis and the environmental
6:36 conditions that we're
6:38 aware of then we'll talk about citing
6:41 options
6:42 based upon that initial site analysis
6:46 and environmental conditions
6:48 uh we'll then talk quite a bit about
6:52 play
6:52 and and what play means and um go
6:55 through a series
6:56 of questions and community feedback
6:59 we'll be using
7:00 some technology where we can get some
7:02 real-time feedback
7:03 that night as to
7:06 um experience character
7:09 how do we best blend this player into
7:12 the natural environment there at
7:14 hillside park
7:15 what you'll see in the presentation is
7:17 we'll be certainly reinforcing that idea
7:20 we're going to talk with the community
7:23 about
7:24 um sort of different polling links and
7:27 opportunities we're going to have
7:29 while the meeting is going on i'll also
7:32 note we'll share
7:33 both evenings we're going to be
7:34 recording each of these meetings
7:37 and giving the community an opportunity
7:40 over the next week
7:42 to watch um and to provide their
7:44 feedback from us
7:45 so uh we we thought that was really
7:48 important to
7:48 not only get live feedback that night
7:50 but then through
7:52 really recording uh the event give
7:54 opportunity for
7:56 other neighbors community members that
7:58 aren't able to attend
7:59 to give us feedback as well so they'll
8:01 be a mix of utilizing the chat box we'll
8:03 have some polling live
8:04 chat polling going on as well as another
8:08 tool called
8:08 mentimeter uh
8:11 as the agenda says we're going to dive
8:14 into talking about analysis
8:16 and in regards to hillside park uh
8:18 really that analysis starts with
8:20 the 24 teen community
8:23 feedback and discussion that we had uh
8:26 specific to the play area there was a
8:28 real interest in a play area
8:30 um more natural play
8:34 and and materials uh that really blend
8:36 into the environment and
8:38 blend into the really the aesthetic of
8:40 hillside park
8:41 um these gorgeous you see the photo here
8:44 tall
8:44 cedar trees um and and really that that
8:48 meadow forest and meadow feel
8:50 um how do we create play that that
8:52 really blends into that
8:53 it doesn't interfere or take away from
8:57 current features of the park circulation
9:00 was another
9:01 theme that that we'll go over
9:04 in terms of trails accessibility
9:09 view and surveillance into the into
9:10 these areas
9:12 some drainage issues that existed within
9:14 the field so just reinforcing what we
9:15 heard in 2014 is the starting point
9:18 and then you'll see as i go through
9:20 these presentations these opportunities
9:22 for chat will really be queuing up the
9:24 community
9:25 uh to provide us any other info in this
9:28 case
9:28 you know what's missing or or have
9:31 priorities changed
9:33 for the individuals that are listening
9:37 we'll spend some time highlighting the
9:38 project focus in this case it really is
9:41 looking at play and how to incorporate a
9:43 play area a rightly scaled
9:46 play area into this park as a walk-in
9:49 park we're not changing this
9:51 um we're not creating parking um so we
9:54 we want this to be a a player that
9:57 really serves
9:58 um in that existing scale of the park um
10:02 i noticed um just even in sharing this
10:04 all with you
10:05 this is still a draft we are going to
10:08 also look at
10:09 um ways that we can address some of the
10:12 drainage as we're sighting and locating
10:14 uh the play area so there's
10:18 still a few changes we need to make to
10:20 this presentation
10:21 next in the analysis we really want to
10:23 dive into some of the environmental
10:24 realities
10:26 of the site of the area um
10:29 methuen and their consultant team do a
10:32 great job of
10:33 really again starting big picture but
10:35 really honing in on one of the
10:37 environmental area
10:39 environmental elements of this
10:42 of this site we're also going to
10:45 talk with the community on tuesday night
10:47 about
10:49 the new environmental checklist which is
10:51 part of our
10:52 project process um introducing that
10:55 introducing um how taking a look at
11:00 the critical areas both on the site and
11:03 off site that may have buffers within
11:05 this two acre
11:05 two acre site are really an important
11:08 element that we're looking at
11:10 from the get go of this project
11:13 so we'll spend some time talking about
11:14 that again inviting feedback
11:16 on other environmental areas or issues
11:20 that
11:21 a community might be aware of we'll then
11:24 talk through this sort of the right side
11:27 of the screen here talks about
11:28 considerations and really elements of
11:30 this environmental checklist that
11:32 will be important as we go through the
11:35 the process
11:36 uh this first neighborhood engagement is
11:39 going to lead
11:40 into a second neighborhood meeting that
11:42 we'll be having
11:44 in april where we'll be bringing back
11:46 not only feedback on the elements of the
11:48 the player and the project but also
11:52 on the environmental checklist and how
11:55 as we're incorporating the project we're
11:57 also
11:58 incorporating in the environmental
12:01 realities of the of the site
12:04 we'll then spend some time talking about
12:05 the context of the site itself
12:08 starting with a this overview of of
12:11 the site um hillside park this orangish
12:15 area really just being the the two acres
12:17 a bigger hillside but this two-acre
12:20 neighborhood park is where we're
12:23 looking at incorporating in the the play
12:25 area
12:26 uh some photos to give context um of the
12:29 site what what exists now
12:31 what some of the feel of the area we
12:34 imagine most of the people tuned in to
12:36 this meeting
12:37 are familiar with the site but just some
12:39 opportunities to give context
12:42 i mentioned earlier for those of you
12:44 that maybe have not been there
12:47 this park really has one main walk-in
12:50 entry point off of mount mckinley
12:52 drive there's another trail that comes
12:55 through the cemetery but
12:56 it truly is a walk-in space and that'll
12:59 be important to how we
13:01 think about incorporating play into the
13:02 site looking at some other
13:05 elements uh that of the site realities
13:08 of the site some buffers the buffer to
13:10 the cemetery
13:11 uh what buffers look like to the to the
13:13 residential areas
13:16 again some context photos
13:20 areas we're aware of some critical areas
13:22 we're very aware of
13:23 um and we'll need to be reviewing are
13:25 looking at steep slopes and and what
13:27 setbacks look like there
13:29 again with some some context photos
13:34 and then with this context and with some
13:36 of these environmental realities at
13:37 least begin to offer up some feedback
13:40 and opportunities for for community
13:42 thoughts on
13:43 where we might um consider locating
13:47 a play area each of these areas would
13:49 have trade-offs that we'll talk through
13:53 again the idea is not settling on a
13:56 final site on wednesday night but really
13:58 beginning to invite some feedback
14:01 from the community in terms of initial
14:04 thoughts they might have on on feel for
14:06 the site
14:07 another reality is we want that we want
14:10 to introduce to the neighborhood
14:12 is given this desire at hillside in
14:15 particular of
14:16 of the trees of
14:19 so much of of the natural experience of
14:21 hillside and how we can incorporate play
14:24 into that natural area is this idea of
14:27 we can think creatively about how to
14:29 incorporate play it doesn't necessarily
14:31 have to be
14:32 the traditional one big large play area
14:36 that's just
14:37 plopped into a space but again beginning
14:40 to get some feedback and
14:42 welcoming this idea of
14:45 um maybe we have a concentrated player
14:48 but also this idea of dispersing play
14:51 throughout the site
14:52 we could do it in this sort of play area
14:55 and then a couple of discovery areas or
14:58 even this idea of a series of small play
15:01 experiences
15:02 play areas incorporated
15:05 and connected either with a trail or
15:08 throughout the site
15:10 and again just a chance to invite some
15:13 feedback
15:14 on that um and then jumping right into
15:19 um these ideas of play and beginning to
15:21 get some feedback
15:22 as to how the community would like to
15:26 consider play not all play is the same
15:28 thing
15:28 i know oftentimes we'll look at a play
15:30 area and just think oh player is a play
15:32 area but
15:33 um i think bethune and this approach of
15:36 really
15:37 thinking of play the the variety of play
15:40 that existed
15:41 exists i think will will allow us to
15:44 create a play space and a play area that
15:47 really blends into the neighborhood but
15:48 also um
15:51 serves that squawk mountain community
15:53 really well
15:54 um given this is a virtual meeting and
15:56 we're going to try and get
15:57 really creative and and how to get
15:59 feedback on
16:01 um ideas and concepts uh methune does a
16:05 great job of
16:06 of creating these um or providing these
16:09 images that again are not meant to be
16:12 exact concepts that are going to be as
16:14 part of hillside but
16:16 uh really start to welcome um and maybe
16:18 open up some
16:19 some creative thinking or or
16:23 at least some initial um
16:26 visuals for the community to to react
16:29 off of versus just
16:30 um words i think we all tend to be quite
16:34 visual
16:35 in our experiences and
16:38 these visuals could certainly help
16:40 garner community feedback so
16:43 again looking at both types of
16:45 structures mix of materials with
16:47 hillside in particular we really are
16:49 trying to emphasize some of the natural
16:51 play natural woods um rope
16:55 netting nature play adventure play
16:58 um again i'm not going through this
17:00 survey like we're going to go through
17:02 with the community but
17:04 you'll just see trying to
17:07 really invite different ways to think of
17:09 play different ways to think of
17:11 accessibility
17:14 family use do we want to
17:18 consider ways of of exploration and and
17:21 really inviting creative play as opposed
17:23 to just the traditional
17:25 plop and play how do we want to
17:26 incorporate seating um how do we want to
17:29 incorporate art
17:30 that's another element that we're
17:32 looking at is and an art doesn't have to
17:34 again just a plopped piece of public art
17:37 but how can art be
17:39 part of play and and part of really
17:41 celebrating what
17:42 uh what that park is so that i believe
17:46 is the last slide of this draft of
17:48 hillside i'm going to stop there before
17:50 jumping into blackberry
17:53 i'm going to stop sharing my script well
17:55 i'll keep sharing my screen and see if
17:57 there's any
17:58 comments or feedback brad i'm not sure
18:01 if you were able to look at the
18:04 at the chat box
18:07 maybe it's easier for me to stop sharing
18:10 now i can look at the chat box right now
18:12 there's nothing in there
18:13 okay any just any general thoughts
18:16 feedback what do you
18:17 what do you all think of this this type
18:19 of approach
18:20 i have a couple of thoughts um the
18:23 um i like the approach and then all the
18:26 visuals i think that's really conducive
18:28 to getting
18:29 good feedback you know like um one
18:32 a few thoughts though um one when you
18:35 mention
18:36 kind of natural play and how that might
18:39 be really conducive to this
18:40 i i agree with that i also remember
18:45 that that was the approach we took with
18:47 confluence park i think
18:49 and what we ended up doing was adding a
18:51 place a formal play structure
18:54 um thinking originally that we we didn't
18:57 need that
18:58 so i just want to kind of throw that out
18:59 as sort of maybe
19:01 perhaps a lesson learned um and then the
19:04 other thing is you know we've
19:05 for as long as i've been on the park
19:06 board we have been talking about doing
19:09 something with hillside park
19:11 and over the years we've gotten a lot of
19:13 resistance from the community
19:15 up there and i'm sure a big part of that
19:18 not wanting to attract the lack of
19:21 parking and not wanting to
19:23 attract people in you know bring cool
19:25 people in so
19:26 i'm just curious are you you mentioned a
19:30 2014 survey was that pretty
19:31 overwhelmingly like
19:33 are you getting the sense that the
19:34 community is ready for
19:37 you know an improvement to this park
19:41 yeah so 2014 was a series of of
19:44 community meetings that were held up
19:46 there
19:46 um you all may recall and yes there was
19:51 excuse me real interest in
19:55 adding a play area to the site um
19:58 again with the caveat of how can it be
20:01 natural
20:02 how can it be incorporated in to a scale
20:06 that doesn't
20:07 we're not we're not creating a community
20:09 size play area that's going to
20:12 create a destination um and how do we do
20:14 it in a way that doesn't detract from
20:16 the existing uses and elements of of the
20:19 park and so we're going to
20:21 head into this exercise with that same
20:24 set of
20:26 conditions and and sort of
20:30 a baseline like any public engagement
20:33 danielle
20:34 yeah i would imagine and even as i've
20:36 gotten emails as we've set this
20:37 this invite out um there is there's a
20:40 real
20:41 mix of feelings and opinions uh about
20:44 this park and and
20:45 whether there's interest in having a
20:47 play area or not
20:48 a lot of interest in um
20:52 greater player is fine as long as it
20:53 doesn't take away from the field
20:55 or as long as it doesn't take away from
20:57 the trail
20:58 so all of that is i think pretty natural
21:02 um and certainly in my years of working
21:05 in a variety of cities that's not rare
21:08 when we look at incorporating a new
21:10 element into a park that a
21:11 community wants uh not every not every
21:14 member of that neighborhood might
21:16 want that element but you know how do we
21:18 add that element
21:20 um in a way that also um respects the
21:24 variety of interests and the variety of
21:26 uses that are that are
21:28 already happening within that park
21:33 and how much um so i appreciate that i
21:37 just think we need to be really careful
21:38 to listen
21:39 listen to that community carefully um
21:43 and that the that community the that
21:46 neighborhood is different than some of
21:48 our
21:48 newer neighborhoods where we really um
21:52 we're like in the highlands and dallas
21:54 where there are really no yards right so
21:56 squawks
21:57 has a little firm people might have some
22:01 space for kids in their yards which
22:04 might be
22:04 one reason why we've had some reluctance
22:07 in the past
22:07 um how often how much is this is this
22:10 this part used kind of informally for
22:13 off-leash dog
22:14 you guys have a sense of that
22:17 as for that um yeah i
22:21 i mean i don't have i i can't quantify
22:24 other than to say yeah it's it's an open
22:27 field
22:27 so yes it is used to a degree
22:31 for both unleash and off leash
22:34 dog use
22:38 hey jeff is this a matter of uh
22:42 planning only this year or is there
22:44 actually funding available to actually
22:46 do the work
22:47 there's funding actually to do the work
22:48 so that's something i appreciate you
22:50 asking that
22:50 uh that's something we'll share that the
22:52 goal would be to
22:54 have a play area installed on each of
22:56 these sites this fall
22:59 as well as some upgrades to the trail
23:01 system too
23:03 uh i don't know what you mean by
23:05 upgrades to the trail system
23:07 uh no i mean the player is the primary
23:09 goal i think how we can address drainage
23:11 in the in the main field at hillside
23:15 again depending on where we locate the
23:16 play area would probably be a goal of
23:18 this
23:19 but in terms of expanding trails
23:22 like down to lower cemetery area no
23:24 that's not part of
23:26 it's not part of this phase of work that
23:28 would be completed this year
23:31 but the nice thing about this engagement
23:33 is and hopefully in this approach of
23:35 really
23:37 um having a unique a conversation with
23:40 the neighborhood
23:41 is i think you know the goal is to get
23:44 feedback for
23:44 this phase of work with the player and
23:46 how to incorporate it if we're going to
23:48 do a play area
23:50 but then also welcome feedback on
23:56 other other improvements that
23:59 we might want to accomplish in a future
24:02 phase
24:05 chris did you have your hand up uh yeah
24:07 i had a few comments a few thoughts
24:10 uh i think it would be wise uh even if
24:13 sorry can you hear me
24:17 uh maybe that better yes it is okay
24:21 uh let me move this window over here
24:25 uh if i can
24:28 i think it would be wise to ask the
24:31 question
24:32 of the neighbors and the participants
24:36 about trails and access
24:40 i know a family that lives on mount
24:43 mckinley
24:44 they love having it they love that it's
24:46 sort of a secret
24:47 you know they're on private park and
24:49 obviously that's not uh you know
24:51 not everybody gets to have a private
24:52 park but um
24:55 if improvements are made there then
24:58 it might become a destination you know
25:02 even if it's
25:03 not a big destination and
25:06 if there are greater access points that
25:09 might be able to alleviate and disperse
25:12 uh some of the influx of visitors and so
25:15 i think it's worth asking the question
25:16 and exploring for if it has to be a
25:18 later phase
25:19 um that's it and then the other thing
25:21 about this park is because it's hidden
25:24 uh it can be home to uh other activities
25:29 um that you know are not desirable in a
25:31 public park
25:33 and if you can create
25:36 those you know that influx steady
25:38 movement of people through there then it
25:40 can become sort of self-controlled and
25:43 so that's another reason i think we
25:44 should explore that idea even if it's
25:46 not with this space
25:51 great points chris yeah i i think the
25:53 idea of access
25:54 those conversations of how this space
25:57 functions
25:59 are all going to be not only questions
26:01 we ask but really welcome
26:03 feedback and and discussion
26:07 again like any public space as we manage
26:10 a public park
26:11 for public use you're right we want to
26:14 do it in a way that's
26:18 respectful to the neighbors of that
26:20 public space
26:22 um but also
26:26 again tries to seek to serve um
26:29 serve the public use and again in this
26:31 case this is not a community park that's
26:33 trying to serve
26:34 all of issaquah it's a neighborhood park
26:36 that's really trying to serve
26:38 that that neighborhood as best as it can
26:43 and i think that's the challenge is to
26:45 try and find a balance there because uh
26:48 right now i think the only people that
26:50 are using it are people that really live
26:52 adjacent to the park for the most part
26:54 and
26:55 the rest of us that live on squat
26:57 mountain because of it being so hilly
26:59 here
27:00 and there is no real parking or any real
27:03 good access
27:04 a lot of people on squawk don't use it
27:06 unless you live next to it
27:08 i mean so i think it's so i think
27:11 there's
27:11 a portion of the community that's going
27:13 to be very protective because they don't
27:15 want to lose their private park
27:17 but there's also a part of the community
27:18 that would like to be able to
27:20 have a park on squawk mountain that they
27:22 could utilize
27:23 and so and so how do you balance that i
27:26 guess that's that's the challenge
27:28 yeah and to continue with the idea of
27:31 trails and sorry
27:32 if that's a too big of a digression but
27:36 so we live further up the hill on squawk
27:39 and my wife and i are out on the
27:40 mountain all the time
27:42 and as of last march the number of
27:45 visitors to squawk mountain park
27:48 probably increased tenfold if not more
27:52 it's great you know it's what we all
27:54 want people outdoors and everything but
27:55 they're you know parking all over and
27:57 going into you know the main squawk
27:59 mountain park
28:00 if this area you know could be done in a
28:04 way where
28:04 you had more access points out you know
28:06 there's mckinley jupiter
28:09 uh i can't remember all the names you
28:11 know fury mount cedar
28:13 um each of those had some little trail
28:16 accesses and a little
28:17 network through there now you've got
28:19 another place for people to go out and
28:21 do their walking
28:23 and uh move about through the mountain
28:26 and the other thing about this that
28:27 maybe some people don't realize this
28:30 on squawk you know you have the entrance
28:33 down kind of by
28:34 you know the mountain park by sunset by
28:36 the hatchery
28:37 and then tibbetts and it's very hard to
28:39 get across
28:41 and for people to have the opportunity
28:44 do walks one way or the other and sort
28:46 of get through
28:47 that otherwise what's otherwise an
28:49 obstacle i think would be valuable
28:53 yep great points chris and i'll drop the
28:55 whole trail thing now
28:57 it's all right
29:00 please it's great it's amazing to be
29:03 able to walk
29:04 you know not have to walk on newport
29:06 right to
29:07 across somehow um normally i love
29:11 the idea that our new parks you know
29:14 have something different
29:15 and unique and um
29:19 you know have some new kind of feature
29:23 at this park i wonder if it might be a
29:26 good idea to sort of be redundant
29:28 so that to kind of alleviate the
29:31 attraction for people outside the
29:33 neighborhood coming in
29:35 so um which is just sort of a
29:40 i don't know it might be a strategy to
29:42 think about
29:45 to put features in that we have already
29:47 at some of our other
29:50 yeah yeah it's a great point all of
29:53 these are really good feedback and that
29:55 in that we're really trying to thread a
29:57 needle um
29:58 right how do we incorporate play into
30:00 this space how do we make it unique to
30:02 the neighborhood
30:03 and um this probably isn't the right way
30:06 to put it but let's not over
30:07 let's not overshoot and end up creating
30:09 a destination play area
30:11 um within a park that um
30:16 yeah isn't isn't um able to support that
30:19 at this point in time
30:20 so this idea of phasing this idea of um
30:24 but again keeping it to scale for what
30:26 this
30:27 what this park is again there's there's
30:30 many in that community that have asked
30:32 and requested a play area to be
30:34 incorporated in a hillside and we're
30:35 going to do the best we can to
30:37 have this neighborhood conversation
30:39 really think of play creatively
30:41 think of this site creatively and and
30:44 really try and
30:45 come up with some options on how play
30:48 could be incorporated into this park
30:50 to the right scale and in a way that
30:52 still
30:53 blends with existing uses and with
30:56 the environment yeah i really want to
31:00 see what the community says but i really
31:01 like the concept of spreading it out so
31:03 it's not
31:04 just one big play area those little ones
31:06 along the trail and
31:08 you know i think that really helps so
31:11 that it's not
31:11 too congested um and gives people
31:15 some space and maybe even some private
31:17 space to some extent
31:19 and so just to clarify there's not going
31:22 to be
31:24 much of any tree loss
31:27 or excavation in this project
31:31 that would not be our goal our goal so
31:33 part of our sign analysis has been
31:35 um inventorying all trees and especially
31:38 trees of significance there are some
31:40 hazard trees
31:41 but again identifying those through the
31:43 work of an arborist
31:44 consultant yeah but again the goal is to
31:47 preserve
31:48 those trees and and create a play area
31:50 that works within
31:52 um within the site and again not a lot
31:55 of excessive grading either
31:57 all right like for any player there's
31:59 some degree of grading but we're not
32:01 looking at
32:02 um moving a lot of earth to do that
32:05 and anything that's occurs would just be
32:07 for the play area only not
32:09 anywhere else like the open field
32:11 essentially is going to remain what it
32:14 that would be the goal yeah again the
32:17 strong community interest
32:18 um in 2014 and here if you know
32:22 let's let's let that field be the
32:24 multi-use
32:26 lawn and space that it is um and then
32:30 yep blend a blend of play area to
32:32 complement it
32:33 not take its place
32:37 good any anybody else have any questions
32:40 comments
32:43 chrissy's throwing your hand up
32:48 what would be a comparable sized um
32:52 park that we're talking about like as
32:54 far as a play area
32:57 uh in terms of square footage daniel
32:59 we're not at that point yet
33:02 so i no but for like a neighborhood park
33:05 what are our other kind of neighborhood
33:06 parks that are classified as that
33:11 boy uh blackberry which we're gonna talk
33:13 about next yeah
33:14 um yeah that's a that's a unique one
33:19 you know i'd say black nugget epidisc
33:21 highlands but that's such a different
33:22 neighborhood
33:23 right it's you know i i think it might
33:26 be similar in size but it's very
33:28 different in terms of
33:29 recreation amenities right it's much
33:31 more of a developed neighborhood park
33:36 i mean i'd say this space is really
33:38 quite unique um
33:40 both it's it's a neighborhood park but
33:43 it's a
33:44 it's more passive in nature and i i
33:47 think the community very much
33:48 wants it to stay that way
33:53 yes i heard a yes
33:57 yes it's more of a green belt with a
34:00 little bit of a park in it
34:02 yeah yep yep and again i think that's
34:06 what we're really trying and this is
34:07 great feedback and i think what we're
34:09 really trying to
34:10 represent in these conversations is
34:14 let's let the site let's let the
34:15 uniqueness of each of these sites and
34:17 any site that we do park work on
34:20 really inform the work that we're going
34:22 to do both in scale
34:24 and environment and sort of the natural
34:27 resources that exist
34:30 on that site i mean personally i think
34:34 the trails are probably
34:36 as important if not more important than
34:39 at that particular park than you know um
34:43 play amenities to some extent
34:48 it's because of it being such a natural
34:50 area
34:51 you know people just having an
34:52 opportunity to get out in
34:54 being in nature um
34:57 you know having an opportunity to be on
34:59 those trails i think is
35:00 is is is kind of a priority
35:04 i would think rather than you know a
35:07 gymnasium
35:10 right because that's just my opinion
35:11 we'll see what the community says about
35:13 that
35:14 so again yeah how to how what is play
35:16 what's the scale of play look like
35:18 that that complements trail use
35:21 the natural environment in essence
35:24 a field that sort of functions as a
35:27 forested meadow
35:30 so you know how do we how do we stay
35:32 true to all that
35:34 um and and consider play well that's why
35:37 i was saying
35:37 you know budget wise you know if people
35:40 are not real supportive of a lot of
35:44 gymnasium kind of things to be playing
35:46 on can some of that money be devoted to
35:48 the trail system you know to make either
35:51 maybe more connections like what chris
35:53 is talking about
35:55 or what trails you do have to at least
35:57 put them in better shape so they're
35:59 used better or more often
36:03 what do you have we have like a hundred
36:05 thousand dollars i think don't you
36:08 know right now within uh within the
36:10 budget for the park we have three
36:12 hundred thousand dollars
36:14 but again that's not necessarily the
36:16 goal is not to spend that all on this
36:19 play area project right so it's this
36:21 idea of what does this first phase look
36:22 like
36:23 to complete this year and then how does
36:26 this feedback how does this ongoing
36:27 engagement help
36:29 um drive what what a future phase might
36:35 and some of that money's going to the
36:36 consultant i assume as well
36:38 right or is that separate no it's all
36:41 it would go to the consultant it would
36:43 go towards design fees
36:44 um permit per rating fees we have the
36:47 pleasure of
36:48 spending permit fees so yeah that money
36:51 goes a lot of different
36:52 a lot of different places it's not just
36:55 it's not just buying play equipment
37:00 any other questions or comments on uh
37:02 hillside chris
37:03 yeah sorry so another thing that's
37:05 probably going to be
37:07 important to consider is the access for
37:10 maintenance
37:12 there's just not very good access for
37:14 vehicles and equipment there
37:17 which may point towards some of those
37:19 more natural type structures like the
37:21 lawns
37:23 yeah letting existing grade maybe
37:26 support
37:27 sliding and playing and netting
37:30 you're absolutely right yep long-term
37:33 maintenance access to maintenance is a
37:35 is another
37:36 key part to scaling this play experience
37:40 to the right right level good
37:42 opportunity for a zip line all the way
37:44 down to sunset
37:48 and you're going to attract a bunch of
37:51 people
37:53 seriously parents will bring uh bring
37:56 kids to wherever there's like a new and
37:58 unique
37:59 piece of play equipment so keep it in
38:02 mind
38:03 right yep
38:07 anything else anyone on this one
38:12 not seeing anything looks like it's
38:13 blackberry all right
38:15 again really appreciate that the
38:17 feedback here uh
38:18 similarly i will share my screen
38:23 please verify i did it right again looks
38:26 good
38:26 okay so
38:29 as i was saying earlier each of these
38:32 sites is
38:32 similar in terms of the goal of
38:35 incorporating play but
38:37 unique in in both its location and
38:42 i think some of the issues and
38:43 opportunities that we need to
38:45 and want to get community feedback on if
38:48 if you're
38:49 familiar with the sammamish cove area
38:51 blackberry park
38:53 boy i i wish i could give you the street
38:55 number but i don't have it memorized
38:58 tucked right in to a residential area
39:00 this was a king county parcel it wasn't
39:03 even a park
39:04 parcel it was a king county
39:07 owned single-family residential parcel
39:10 for
39:11 for decades the neighborhood around it
39:16 began to incorporate it and park
39:18 elements into it
39:19 and it really became a neighborhood park
39:22 because of
39:23 of community support this was
39:26 transferred to us
39:27 in 2017 um
39:31 and we began to to engage with the
39:34 community as to what they
39:36 want to see happen how they want to see
39:38 this site managed
39:40 the meeting on thursday night will again
39:42 start with
39:43 uh mayor paulie given some welcome
39:45 comments
39:47 um agenda will look relatively similar
39:49 uh that we don't have
39:51 um a huge amount of community engagement
39:53 to sort of base as a starting point
39:56 but again we'll start with this idea of
39:58 analysis of the site
40:00 what do we know of the environmental
40:01 conditions what do we know
40:03 of some of the background in this case
40:06 what the what the neighborhood sort of
40:09 invested
40:10 through their own sweat equity into this
40:11 site and how do we analyze play
40:16 how do we analyze really quite frankly
40:18 what you'll see is how constrained this
40:20 site is
40:21 to to incorporating play we'll go
40:24 through some of the similar exercises a
40:26 variety of play
40:27 what you'll see in those varieties of
40:30 play in this slide are going to look a
40:31 little different
40:32 more there are some natural elements
40:35 that we want to sort of draw out
40:36 but also some more sort of traditional
40:40 um play spaces given that the
40:43 constraints of the site
40:45 we'll talk through again these pooling
40:46 opportunities to get real-time analysis
40:49 or feedback from
40:51 the community we'll start with another
40:53 context map
40:55 here you go i could have waited
40:56 southeast 42nd and and 191st
40:59 is where you'll find blackberry park
41:03 as i said earlier tucked right into the
41:04 residential
41:06 neighborhood similar to what we did with
41:09 hillside we'll talk through
41:10 the environmental requirements that that
41:15 any and all projects need to go through
41:18 invite opportunity for feedback
41:21 as we talk through that again this idea
41:24 blending neighborhood feedback on the
41:28 scope of the project but also
41:30 neighborhood feedback
41:31 on environmental concerns um
41:35 at that at the same time we're going
41:36 through these neighborhood conversations
41:41 uh this slide will really i think speak
41:44 to some of that background in history
41:47 there was an original play structure
41:48 that was there before 2006
41:50 uh the community uh neighborhood a lead
41:54 effort
41:54 replaced that play area in 2006.
41:58 there's a
42:02 concrete pad area that was a basketball
42:04 hoop there's still a basketball hoop in
42:06 the corner you can see that that photo
42:08 there
42:09 there's a gazebo that was just installed
42:12 um king county transferred it to us so i
42:15 was wrong 2016
42:16 late 2016. it was november december when
42:19 that happened we had some
42:21 hosted a barbecue out there on site in
42:23 2017
42:24 to meet the neighbors to talk about the
42:26 transfer of this property from the
42:28 county to the city
42:32 at that time they were the neighborhood
42:33 had some concerns about the play area
42:35 this is a
42:36 play area that doesn't meet you know
42:38 national sort of
42:40 public play area safety standards it's
42:42 not such a risk that we felt like we
42:44 needed to take it down at the time but
42:46 i felt like we really need to look and
42:48 consider
42:50 what a replacement of that play area
42:52 looks like
42:55 again an opportunity to invite more
42:57 feedback on thursday night
43:00 what are they most proud of what changes
43:04 what other information would they like
43:06 us to know
43:10 context map that that sort of talks
43:12 through uh some of these existing
43:14 elements
43:14 and and where they um exist on site
43:18 again some visuals uh for context
43:23 you start looking at setbacks
43:26 and and start sort of inviting
43:30 this conversation around some of the
43:31 challenges that exist with this site as
43:33 as we look at incorporating park
43:36 elements
43:37 into it as as a true park
43:41 um you'll see where the existing play
43:43 area is in this corner when you look at
43:46 um permitted required setbacks
43:50 um we have a player that is
43:54 to put a bluntly a little too close to
43:56 the to the edge of the
43:58 the property so some of these things we
44:00 need to look at as we
44:02 think of incorporating new play area
44:05 into the site
44:06 i want to want to talk with the
44:08 community and and get feedback on
44:10 on some of that um
44:13 this then leads into really this
44:15 conversation of how do we recon
44:17 how do we consider play needs a variety
44:20 of locations within the site but also
44:24 not detracting from some of the other
44:27 elements that exist within this park
44:30 this is really going to begin to talk
44:32 and and feel
44:34 um on thursday night
44:37 um really a conversation about
44:39 trade-offs
44:40 for the want of a of a play area or a
44:43 certain size play area
44:44 um there's considerations that the
44:47 neighborhood's really going to need to
44:48 consider and we want to be very
44:50 considerate of and get community
44:53 feedback
44:54 on that before we go much farther with
44:56 this
44:58 project some of these edges
45:02 and how this property relates and is so
45:04 close to the neighbors is really
45:05 important
45:06 um the trellis that's getting up in age
45:09 um is that something
45:10 again the community feels really uh
45:13 wedded to is that something we
45:15 we need to consider keeping uh there's a
45:17 big patch of
45:19 non-native blackberries that exist on
45:21 the other side of the park from this
45:23 photo
45:25 if if blackberries are
45:29 a huge priority for this community how
45:31 might we consider
45:33 accomplishing that without um having
45:35 wild invasive blackberries
45:37 take up such a big part of the park
45:41 from there we'll talk through similar to
45:43 what we did with hillside sort of go
45:44 through this exercise
45:46 of types of play what are the priority
45:48 types of play
45:49 you'll see some of these visuals that
45:51 again as i was saying earlier
45:53 speak to natural features but also look
45:57 some of the more traditional play type
45:59 structures that we'll probably need to
46:01 consider
46:02 for such a small park in a small area
46:05 netting climbing etc
46:08 i won't spend a lot of time talking
46:10 through this
46:12 unless you have some questions
46:15 all of this is really going to lead to
46:17 some of these um
46:19 i think the important conversations that
46:21 we really want to have with the
46:22 neighborhood on thursday night
46:24 and get their feedback are these ideas
46:26 of layout both size and scale of play
46:28 area
46:29 and when you start looking at
46:31 considerations given setback
46:33 requirements etc
46:35 what are some of the trade-offs that
46:37 that we're going to need to consider
46:39 by incorporating a new player into the
46:41 site
46:42 you'll see as i go through these we
46:44 really want to
46:45 get feedback on
46:48 what happens when we look at different
46:50 sizes of play areas
46:52 and the net effect to the lawn and some
46:55 of the other elements so
46:58 to to look at say a play area that's
47:02 similar in size there was a swing that
47:04 was on a tree back here that
47:06 was a hazard tree and something we
47:09 needed to take down
47:10 quite early when it was transferred we
47:13 know from that
47:14 that conversation there's interest in
47:16 incorporating swings back into the park
47:18 again we'll get feedback but to do a
47:21 similar size play area we really can't
47:23 use that space
47:24 we'd have to look at an air another area
47:26 within the park and let that space
47:29 perhaps become lawn so this idea of
47:34 similar lawn it just might need to be a
47:36 different layout as we look at another
47:38 play area
47:39 and then like i was saying this reality
47:42 of trade-offs to go to a bigger play
47:44 space
47:45 we really start to impact the lawn area
47:48 and want to get some feedback from
47:51 the neighborhood just as to what their
47:53 preference might be
47:56 and not make assumptions
47:59 so it really this conversation unlike
48:03 hillside where it's really incorporating
48:05 into the natural
48:06 area as we look at size and scale of
48:10 play
48:10 and replacing what is a again a a
48:15 non-safety standard
48:17 residential play area to bring a public
48:21 play area and how do we do that in a way
48:23 that still
48:24 complements and meets the right
48:27 mix and proportion of elements that this
48:30 community
48:31 would like to retain within uh the park
48:34 so this really becomes the last slide of
48:38 our conversation with blackberry and
48:40 trying to get feedback
48:41 on you know no real net
48:45 lawn reduction and then the bigger the
48:48 play area you'll see there's a
48:49 an impact to to the lawn space that is
48:54 remains available within within the park
49:00 so again this idea of sight constraints
49:04 of the site
49:05 um and and what um
49:09 things we need to consider as a
49:10 community and as as a city
49:13 um incorporating play into the into the
49:15 park so
49:17 thoughts questions comments
49:24 um so this is one where this is a
49:26 neighborhood that is
49:28 nice and flat with big wide street
49:31 um and kids bike you know and travel
49:35 you know freeway right they're not
49:36 constrained by the hills
49:40 um and so i think it's important to look
49:42 at this park in the context of
49:44 also looking at muirwood park and then
49:46 south cove
49:48 and looking at them together as far as
49:50 what amenities there are
49:52 um and this kind of reminds me of when
49:55 we did meerwood park it was similar i
49:58 think we took
49:58 that we i can't remember when we did
50:01 those renovations but um
50:03 it sort of strikes me as very similar to
50:05 that
50:06 um and
50:10 i would want i would think that we would
50:12 want to have something different
50:14 we have at the
50:17 the other parks in the neighborhood
50:19 where kids can easily have to
50:21 so a different reaction than
50:26 um i would also be curious is that park
50:30 south cove proper like do the people who
50:33 are adjacent to it have access
50:36 to the south coast park
50:39 uh i don't know in terms of their
50:40 private neighborhood park with south
50:43 carolina i'm not sure exactly where
50:44 those boundaries are
50:46 um i know there are a number of
50:48 depending on
50:49 timing of when each residential area was
50:52 there are some hoa parks
50:54 that certainly support um a number of
50:57 neighborhoods
50:59 so i i would be curious going into that
51:01 meeting to know
51:02 like how important green space is like
51:05 open field space
51:06 because i kind of feel like a bunch of
51:09 those
51:10 you know a lot of that neighborhood is
51:12 that like that space is probably
51:13 satisfied with the
51:15 the big grassy park that they have
51:19 but i don't know i would i would but
51:20 that's what i would want to know
51:22 no i appreciate that and that's part of
51:25 i think what we're trying to get to with
51:26 this
51:27 is understanding those trade-offs and
51:28 and quite frankly another option is
51:31 do do we consider not having a play area
51:33 at this part
51:34 right i mean that that's something that
51:37 uh we would certainly invite
51:38 um if that if that is the
51:42 feedback that comes from the community
51:47 yeah it could just be a place to
51:48 congregate you know with benches and
51:50 picnic tables and not necessarily a play
51:53 area
51:54 so where is the closest park to this one
51:57 is it south cove is that the other
51:59 closest one to this
52:01 south cold is a private park in terms of
52:04 a public park mirwood park would be the
52:06 closest
52:07 um the closest public park or timberlake
52:10 which is down in that same area too
52:12 which is in
52:13 the park but yeah mirwood's closer
52:15 meerwood is more of a neighborhood park
52:17 with a tennis court and play area
52:19 timberlake you're right is also in this
52:21 neighborhood more as a
52:22 a natural open space park right yep
52:26 and i think someone else i don't know if
52:29 anyone else
52:30 on this hall lives there but i mean um
52:35 the south coast park is well used by
52:38 that neighborhood and it's a really big
52:40 you know a very big grassy park with a
52:42 lot of points of access and it goes down
52:44 to the lake
52:45 and so my sense is that that's where
52:47 people congregate and get together with
52:48 their neighbors or
52:50 hang out
52:54 yeah yeah you're right and and i i think
52:56 you know
52:57 from rsvps both of these meetings are
53:00 going to be
53:00 quite well attended and we really want
53:02 to reinforce too
53:04 that doing these virtually gives us the
53:06 chance as i said earlier to record it
53:08 and then really invite those that attend
53:10 hey invite your neighbors to
53:12 to watch the presentation and give us
53:15 give us feedback as well and so um
53:18 i think we're optimistic we're going to
53:20 get really good neighborhood feedback to
53:22 understand
53:24 um i think your points very well taken
53:26 danielle and i would agree
53:28 right this this park has a complementary
53:31 function to those other public spaces
53:33 and so
53:34 what what experience does the community
53:38 want
53:39 for this park relative to those other
53:42 ones around it that are
53:43 maybe a little bit more accessible and
53:45 there's a different
53:46 sort of degree or set of questions as
53:48 opposed to
53:50 um complementary play at hillside park
53:55 right i mean they're play areas but
53:57 they're they're really as i was saying
53:59 at the beginning of this
54:00 uh there's there's um some uniqueness to
54:03 the to the
54:04 community feedback that we really need
54:07 for both of these
54:08 i'll also see um i think that
54:12 to the extent that i think it's
54:13 important really important to know
54:15 um before that meeting where that park
54:18 is so like if that park does not
54:20 actually serve
54:21 like if if it's in a neighborhood
54:24 that doesn't have access to the private
54:27 part
54:28 then i would hope that you're you'll
54:31 will listen
54:32 more to the people who don't have access
54:34 right who need this as a public park
54:37 so i think that's sort of an important
54:40 piece that would be an important piece
54:42 of my analysis so
54:44 what the right thing to do there right
54:46 is it possible to show that on the map
54:49 jeff where that is in relationship
54:54 not necessarily right now but for the
54:56 meeting this week
54:58 uh we could we could try i think within
55:02 that context map
55:03 if if there is a way we can readily get
55:05 definition and understand which
55:08 residential properties have access to
55:12 south cove which
55:13 do not um well we can we can certainly
55:16 do our best i
55:17 i think either way i think the point is
55:20 very well taken and understanding who
55:22 who is this park survey right this
55:24 park's going to serve different
55:26 people to different scales and and how
55:28 do we
55:29 um make sure we we keep that in mind
55:38 any other questions comments
55:45 not seeing anything any talk about
55:47 changing the name
55:50 we're not not
55:53 no no we we po we broached that at the
55:57 barbecue in 2017
55:59 and uh blackberry has uh
56:02 uh there's a strong uh
56:05 affection for that park so um
56:08 it has a it's a heritage site what
56:10 you're saying man
56:12 yeah i thought i thought all parts are
56:14 supposed to go through the naming
56:15 committee process
56:17 well it would if we were going to you
56:20 know move to change the name but if if
56:22 the community
56:23 likes the name it's got a historical
56:25 element
56:26 already built in you know i guess it can
56:28 just stay what it is
56:30 yeah i would say i would say jeremy that
56:32 this this was already a functioning park
56:34 when it was transferred to us
56:37 is that what it was called when king
56:38 county had it yeah
56:40 yes yeah and they said we had a lot more
56:42 blackberries back in those days
56:45 you could call every park around here
56:46 blackberry park yeah probably
56:49 wild parks
56:53 so i again i appreciate the chance to to
56:55 give you this sneak peek
56:57 in general i guess i'll just pose the
56:59 question as i close
57:00 this again approach
57:03 is similar to what we've done in the
57:05 past but knowing that we're going to be
57:07 having
57:09 neighborhood engagement both for the
57:11 environmental checklist but also
57:13 just scoping the project i think what
57:16 we're going to try and show in these
57:18 in these two conversations this week is
57:21 blending those conversations not having
57:24 separate neighborhood meetings about the
57:26 project and then
57:27 about environmental conditions but
57:29 really um
57:31 allowing the engagement to talk about
57:33 both because it's
57:34 it's vitally important that those are
57:37 are talked
57:39 and really spoken through and thought
57:40 through um
57:42 in the same same vein same conversation
57:50 anyone else anybody
57:54 like that's a wrap on that jeff okay
57:56 well
57:57 we'll let you know how it goes and
57:59 anticipate our march meeting
58:00 bringing this back uh like i said our
58:03 next
58:04 engagement would be in april so it'll
58:06 give us a chance in march
58:08 to really share feedback with you but
58:10 begin to
58:11 to talk through and and really discuss
58:13 what we heard
58:14 uh from those neighborhood meetings so
58:16 thank you
58:18 and jesse one last question what's the
58:20 budget for this one that you have
58:23 uh i'll need to confirm it i want to say
58:25 it's just
58:26 south of it's like 250 000.
58:32 again for the site for the park itself
58:35 yep
58:35 right so west and hillside a little bit
58:38 less yep
58:41 but a lot smaller park too so that'll go
58:43 a long ways
58:48 okay i guess um that's it for that part
58:51 of it
58:52 and so it looks like i'm on show here
58:54 for chairperson's report and i have
58:57 uh several things which i'll try and go
59:00 through
59:00 quickly uh some of the wishes just to
59:04 bring you up to date on a couple
59:05 meetings that i attended
59:06 um so i attended the
59:10 february 12th wayfinding meeting that uh
59:13 jennifer put together uh with a number
59:15 of people in the community
59:18 you'll be hearing more about that our
59:20 main focus at that particular meeting
59:22 was to get back re-engaged again that's
59:24 something that we've been
59:26 working on in 2000 losing track of time
59:29 now 2019 we had several meetings
59:32 uh with that project and then everything
59:34 got on hold last year
59:36 so at least you're going to start the
59:38 momentum back up again
59:40 basically we were working on four
59:42 different designs
59:43 of signage this is going to be
59:46 introduction signs to the city and
59:49 certain core points and then there'll be
59:52 an a bunch of other
59:53 way finding signs that are much smaller
59:57 to designate a specific areas
1:00:00 so there'll be more on that but we
1:00:02 claimed an agreement on
1:00:03 on at least the four designs to go out
1:00:06 to the community to get their feedback
1:00:08 and that'll be kind of the next
1:00:09 part of that project i attended
1:00:13 uh the the uh kokanee work group
1:00:15 quarterly meeting on january 27th
1:00:19 and a couple highlights that i wanted to
1:00:22 point out
1:00:23 from that meeting was
1:00:26 king county parks is undergoing a
1:00:29 project
1:00:30 to introduce nine interpretive signs
1:00:34 uh along the east lake sammamish trail
1:00:37 so that's something that's uh
1:00:39 coming into the early early future
1:00:42 they showed one of the signs at the
1:00:44 meeting
1:00:46 the one in particular was kind of a
1:00:48 wildlife signage but there's going to be
1:00:50 a variety of them
1:00:51 it's going to be really good signs that
1:00:54 king county is putting together
1:00:56 uh trout unlimited is still raising
1:00:59 funds for the
1:01:00 urban wildlife refuge partnership which
1:01:02 is still kicking around
1:01:04 something that i was involved in a
1:01:05 number of years ago when it first kicked
1:01:08 it's kind of gone into uh
1:01:12 nowhere land over the last year or two
1:01:14 but uh part of that is because of
1:01:16 funding so anyway trout unlimited has
1:01:18 put together some funding still
1:01:20 gathering more funding uh but they're
1:01:22 gonna have a part-time staff person
1:01:25 by the name of derrick stab who's
1:01:27 actually going to head that up
1:01:29 so there'll be more on that in the
1:01:31 future
1:01:33 um the 2020 2021
1:01:37 kokanee counts uh came in at 82
1:01:41 kokanee which is still really really low
1:01:45 but it's still a little better than
1:01:47 what's happened over the last couple
1:01:49 years so there's some encouragement
1:01:52 emergency plan is still in place
1:01:56 to prevent kokanee from going extinct
1:02:01 and the last part of the kwg
1:02:05 mound to sound greenway actually had a
1:02:06 nice presentation
1:02:09 where i think i had mentioned earlier
1:02:11 i'm not sure when
1:02:13 that they had a 1.5 million dollar grant
1:02:17 that they have been working over the
1:02:19 last several years
1:02:20 in partnership with some other agencies
1:02:24 to put together a restoration of
1:02:25 issaquah creek that runs all the way
1:02:28 through the park all the way to the lake
1:02:31 it encompasses actually 55 acres
1:02:35 they've actually now completed that
1:02:37 design
1:02:39 plan and they're now moving into the
1:02:42 permit
1:02:43 stage and
1:02:46 the anticipation is is in the summer
1:02:49 of next year 2022 is when they
1:02:53 anticipate
1:02:54 engagement to start working on that
1:02:56 project
1:02:58 and it's expected to last for three to
1:03:00 five years
1:03:01 so that's going to be quite enough
1:03:04 quite an effort i think
1:03:13 one of the last oh this is something
1:03:16 that i'll probably
1:03:17 introduce and i'll talk to jeff a little
1:03:19 bit about this in our agenda planning
1:03:20 meeting
1:03:22 um i don't know if any of you are
1:03:24 familiar with bill way
1:03:25 he's actually on the board of friends
1:03:27 lake samana state park
1:03:30 and he along with a trail committee
1:03:34 has been working over the last three
1:03:36 years to put together a trails plan for
1:03:39 the state park
1:03:41 to run with the master planning effort
1:03:44 that the state is working on
1:03:46 currently with that and so that's going
1:03:49 to be flis
1:03:51 contribution is to present this
1:03:54 trails plan i think jeff may have just
1:03:57 gotten a recent
1:03:58 copy of it is what bill had said and so
1:04:01 i'm going to try and see if we can
1:04:03 arrange to maybe have bill
1:04:04 at our next meeting or the one after
1:04:06 depending upon
1:04:08 what other things are going on to show
1:04:10 you what that plan looks like
1:04:12 because he'd like to he'd like to show
1:04:14 what that is
1:04:15 uh it's a pretty extensive program or
1:04:18 project to the tune of almost
1:04:22 10 million dollars so it'll be really
1:04:24 interesting to see how they
1:04:25 how the state addresses that challenge
1:04:27 but um
1:04:29 you know master planning is a long-term
1:04:32 effort and so you really have to
1:04:34 look at it like that and so that trail
1:04:36 plan is probably something that will be
1:04:38 phased in over the course of many years
1:04:40 really
1:04:43 and lastly i wanted to talk a little bit
1:04:47 about
1:04:48 uh board staffing and applications
1:04:51 so this is the end of
1:04:54 term right now coming up at the end of
1:04:57 april
1:04:57 for uh danielle and for jeremy
1:05:02 uh and so we'd certainly like to have
1:05:04 you continue on and then
1:05:07 and if you so choose
1:05:10 the applications are actually due to the
1:05:12 city by five o'clock
1:05:15 february 28th uh
1:05:18 let me know if you need a link to that
1:05:21 and i'll be happy to send it to you
1:05:25 the city has put that out a couple weeks
1:05:27 ago so you may have actually already
1:05:29 seen that
1:05:29 somewhere along the lines
1:05:35 joe has moved on so we do have one
1:05:37 additional
1:05:38 area there to fill and we're still um
1:05:41 trying to determine
1:05:42 what the status of april is going to be
1:05:44 for this year
1:05:46 so that's kind of
1:05:50 it about board staffing jeff you any
1:05:54 comments about that
1:05:55 no thanks for bringing that up brad i i
1:05:57 did i i shared a
1:05:59 an email with those members carl
1:06:02 as well his appointment is is up
1:06:05 it was actually up last year and then as
1:06:07 part of the covet extension
1:06:10 um so i i let all five of those board
1:06:13 members know
1:06:14 um encourage them to apply by the by the
1:06:18 and then this will go through a similar
1:06:21 interview and mayor appointment
1:06:23 process so thanks for bringing that up
1:06:25 as well
1:06:29 so that's all i had for the chair report
1:06:33 and jeff what do you have for director's
1:06:35 report
1:06:36 thanks brad a couple of things first to
1:06:39 i guess continue on in that thought of
1:06:40 board appointments
1:06:41 a few other board members it would be
1:06:44 great don't need it right now but it'd
1:06:45 be great to identify
1:06:47 two park board members to serve on an
1:06:50 interview group
1:06:52 as we head into that in march so just be
1:06:55 thinking about that
1:06:56 shoot me an email if you're interested
1:06:58 or shoot brad an email
1:07:01 a couple of project related items
1:07:04 first brad you mentioned that the
1:07:07 wayfinding
1:07:08 park sign design process that is getting
1:07:10 kicked off again
1:07:13 we intend to bring that update to you as
1:07:16 the full park board
1:07:17 um in march at our at our march meeting
1:07:20 um as brad mentioned he as the park
1:07:22 chief board chair
1:07:23 serves on a a steering committee that
1:07:25 had begun work in 2019
1:07:28 kovid pushed a pretty big pause on that
1:07:31 effort
1:07:32 they met again this last month
1:07:36 that that effort is really a goal to
1:07:39 create a more standardized approach to
1:07:43 park signage facility signage trail
1:07:46 signage
1:07:46 way-finding signage within the city um
1:07:50 we're we'll be embarking on a public
1:07:53 engagement effort probably the spring
1:07:54 and summer
1:07:56 to really garner public feedback on some
1:07:58 concepts
1:08:00 uh the reality is um
1:08:03 this sign will probably be a a meshing
1:08:06 of of these concepts it's not meant to
1:08:09 be a sort of forced
1:08:10 choice it has to be one of these four so
1:08:14 again we'll have a little bit more um
1:08:16 time to focus
1:08:18 as an informational discussion with all
1:08:20 of you as as
1:08:21 park board members in march
1:08:24 we'll also have some ideas on what
1:08:26 public engagement
1:08:27 could look like later this spring and
1:08:29 summer on that effort so it'll be great
1:08:31 to get some of your feedback on that
1:08:34 next item the dog park tour just wanted
1:08:37 to let you all
1:08:38 know we made our first transition from
1:08:41 the field at pickering barn
1:08:44 on february 1st we closed that up and
1:08:48 the tour
1:08:49 moved to squawk valley park where
1:08:52 the dog park exists and will remain
1:08:54 until the end of may
1:08:58 likely next month too i'd love to have a
1:09:00 little bit more
1:09:01 information to share with you as i'm
1:09:03 getting feedback from the park
1:09:04 operations team as to
1:09:06 what uh sort of condition uh pickering
1:09:09 field was left with we did some uh what
1:09:12 i would call
1:09:12 aggressive top dressing with adding some
1:09:14 sand through
1:09:16 if you recall january was a pretty
1:09:18 historically wet
1:09:20 uh month um but how that field
1:09:23 um how that space bounces back will be
1:09:25 something we'll we're
1:09:26 already playing really close attention
1:09:28 to and i'll have a little bit more
1:09:30 information
1:09:31 to share with you in in march um now
1:09:34 that we've made that one change
1:09:36 buying the extra materials was really
1:09:38 helpful we were able to
1:09:39 set up the space at squawk before we
1:09:42 closed the space at pickering so
1:09:44 feedback we heard from the community was
1:09:46 really positive there
1:09:49 i was up um here at work over the
1:09:52 weekend and and going by on
1:09:54 on saturday um the squawk valley space
1:09:56 was really really well used it was great
1:09:59 great to see so the news is certainly
1:10:00 getting out and
1:10:02 we've gotten a lot of positive feedback
1:10:04 and appreciation from the
1:10:05 community on this interim effort
1:10:09 so more information coming your way on
1:10:13 third item programmatically i i
1:10:16 mentioned to you
1:10:17 last month as we've been navigating
1:10:20 covid recovery
1:10:21 we've been really getting creative with
1:10:24 our recreation facilities and programs
1:10:26 one area was our youth basketball
1:10:28 historically what's been a league i'm
1:10:31 happy to announce through a lot of great
1:10:33 work by jared
1:10:34 and lisa and brian and the community
1:10:36 center and athletics team
1:10:39 we started our youth basketball program
1:10:41 last saturday
1:10:43 putting students in safe pods with
1:10:46 volunteer coaches we have 650
1:10:49 young issaquah residents boys and girls
1:10:51 that are taking part in a modified youth
1:10:54 basketball program over the next
1:10:56 the next eight weeks so safety
1:11:00 is a high high priority for that program
1:11:04 certainly seeing the response from the
1:11:05 community and creating these safe
1:11:08 opportunities for
1:11:10 kids in our community to recreate um get
1:11:13 on the court
1:11:14 um have a chance to to socialize and and
1:11:17 be a part of something was
1:11:18 a high priority and so really applaud
1:11:21 the efforts of our recreation team
1:11:23 and making that a reality um
1:11:27 jeremy you have a question about that uh
1:11:30 not a question more of a comment um so
1:11:33 i'm one of those volunteers
1:11:35 uh that has been blessed with uh
1:11:37 coaching one of these teams
1:11:40 and first initial um
1:11:44 thoughts on it is it was pretty good
1:11:46 most the kids you know the kids i have
1:11:48 were all
1:11:49 eight nine year old third graders uh
1:11:52 they wore their masks didn't have any
1:11:54 issues with the masks and stuff the one
1:11:56 comment i did have was that the teams
1:11:57 are remarkably large
1:11:59 i have 20 kids on a basketball team it's
1:12:03 most i've ever had
1:12:04 so i you know that was uh
1:12:08 one issue and then um i was gonna send
1:12:10 out to jared
1:12:12 and we don't have the jerseys yet and
1:12:14 we're not supposed to be you know using
1:12:15 pennies and switching pennies in and out
1:12:17 because of the covet
1:12:18 same with those wristbands so whenever
1:12:19 we'd scrimmage kids didn't know who they
1:12:22 garden or anything so 20 kids it was
1:12:24 kind of tough but
1:12:25 other than that i think it you know went
1:12:27 pretty good they were there was a
1:12:29 person there at the door stopping
1:12:30 everybody doing their little uh
1:12:32 thermometer check
1:12:33 on the forehead going in um asking some
1:12:37 question like a questionnaire and then
1:12:38 we got enough space on the on the floor
1:12:39 so that wasn't an issue but
1:12:41 uh there will be some kinks we have to
1:12:42 work here for sure a lot of the kids
1:12:44 were a little disappointed that they
1:12:45 don't get to play other teams
1:12:46 but then when i told them you have as
1:12:48 many kids on this one team as
1:12:50 three or four other teams um you know
1:12:53 we told them we'd do some sort of game
1:12:54 type of thing
1:12:56 yeah well jeremy thank you so much for
1:12:58 for coaching and you're right the pods
1:13:01 were intended to be bigger
1:13:02 uh the idea is being able to have some
1:13:04 inner squad
1:13:05 uh play amongst those amongst those 20
1:13:08 kids i
1:13:09 i certainly hope there's some additional
1:13:10 volunteer coaches that are helping you
1:13:12 i i know that certainly was a a goal and
1:13:15 a need as well
1:13:16 but that's that's great feedback um make
1:13:19 sure we get that to jared as well
1:13:22 yeah i think we're just waiting for the
1:13:24 pen the jerseys i think once we have the
1:13:26 jerseys they'll be much more smooth you
1:13:27 know you can have them they're supposed
1:13:29 to be reversible so you can flip
1:13:30 the colors and whatnot so yep
1:13:36 the year of the year of covid the year
1:13:39 being nimble
1:13:40 certainly uh last item i i had was
1:13:44 just a follow-up on our turf replacement
1:13:46 project
1:13:47 at central park pad three thank you
1:13:48 again for your feedback
1:13:50 uh in the discussion we had last month
1:13:55 took that information and provided an
1:13:57 update to city council
1:13:59 at the last council meeting on the 16th
1:14:03 um really good feedback from council in
1:14:05 terms of
1:14:06 uh the approach and the recommendation
1:14:08 that we took and
1:14:09 and pivoting to more of a natural infill
1:14:12 product that project approval
1:14:17 excuse me we'll be going to city council
1:14:20 next monday um not next monday the
1:14:22 following monday march 1st
1:14:25 um that is next monday march 1st
1:14:28 uh for approval and then we'll uh
1:14:31 get contracts set and get that get that
1:14:34 project scheduled uh later this year in
1:14:37 so again really appreciate the
1:14:39 discussion we had last month your your
1:14:42 feedback was very helpful in shaping
1:14:43 that project
1:14:46 that's the end of my report brad thank
1:14:47 you hey jeff
1:14:49 um is there going to be enough fencing
1:14:53 to set up uh at the community center uh
1:14:57 seamlessly
1:14:58 um or is there gonna be a break in may
1:15:02 for the dog park no same same thing
1:15:05 applies so we're able to hopscotch so we
1:15:08 end of may we will set up the
1:15:11 fourth dog park tour site at the
1:15:12 community center before we
1:15:15 close squat valley park
1:15:20 any other questions for jeff i
1:15:24 i just have a question about the dog
1:15:25 park so um curious if there have been
1:15:28 challenges or um kind of what
1:15:33 like initially are there any lessons
1:15:35 learned from the first go-around
1:15:40 uh boy um not an exhaustive list
1:15:44 no i i think recognition of
1:15:48 this dog park tour is not going to
1:15:50 alleviate all of
1:15:51 the off-leash dog needs in the community
1:15:54 right
1:15:55 i think it's confirmation of that
1:16:01 but yeah i think to go with the size and
1:16:05 scale of
1:16:06 of any of these interim parks uh
1:16:08 danielle i
1:16:09 i think it's recognition and
1:16:10 confirmation it's probably not meeting
1:16:12 the entire
1:16:13 community need um for a single space of
1:16:16 this size
1:16:17 you know less than an acre size
1:16:20 are they pretty is it pretty crowded
1:16:22 have they been
1:16:23 crowded or good question uh i
1:16:26 no you know i haven't been there at all
1:16:29 times but
1:16:29 certainly as i observed pickering i
1:16:31 think there was a you know that
1:16:33 size space which was the smallest of the
1:16:36 three
1:16:36 tour sites um probably
1:16:40 comfortably accommodated i'd say upwards
1:16:42 of a dozen dogs
1:16:44 um and owners um if it got any
1:16:48 more than that it probably started to
1:16:49 feel a bit crowded
1:16:51 uh squawk is a little bigger space um
1:16:54 again i i you know when i went by on
1:16:57 saturday i would say there were probably
1:16:59 plus dogs out there
1:17:02 very comfortably spaced okay
1:17:07 um and then i'll just echo like i'm so
1:17:10 glad you guys are starting the
1:17:11 basketball
1:17:12 um my kids have outgrown outgrown that
1:17:15 stage but um
1:17:16 you know anything that we can do to
1:17:20 provide an opportunity for kids to
1:17:23 recreate and socialize it is desperately
1:17:25 needed in this community
1:17:27 so thank you
1:17:31 in reference to the dog park i think
1:17:33 it's going to be good here
1:17:35 somewhat maybe towards the end of the
1:17:36 year after the third phase of this
1:17:39 uh to start getting some feedback from
1:17:41 the people um
1:17:43 you know to help us you know with you
1:17:45 know some of the issues that we
1:17:47 had any concerns with for the permanent
1:17:49 dog park so at some point
1:17:51 you know be nice to put out a survey to
1:17:53 those people or know who it is that's
1:17:56 you know that that used it and
1:17:59 what they liked what they didn't like
1:18:00 you know the more we can get
1:18:02 you know the better agreed
1:18:05 and also along those lines people's
1:18:07 memories are short sometimes so
1:18:10 it might be nice like you know now and
1:18:12 maybe you've already done this but
1:18:13 now that you've transitioned from
1:18:16 picture into a squawk to ask people
1:18:18 what their thoughts were on pickering um
1:18:21 you know and then kind of each time
1:18:23 right and so like as you go later you'll
1:18:25 get people comparing
1:18:26 them to the different ones but you don't
1:18:28 want to lose that
1:18:29 input on on pickering right if we wait
1:18:32 for a couple
1:18:33 sessions and you might only get people
1:18:35 talking about
1:18:37 the community center one agreed
1:18:43 uh hey ryan looks like you're up
1:18:47 all right well um since last park board
1:18:50 meeting the advisory board has met
1:18:52 twice both of those meetings uh were
1:18:55 primarily work meetings we have
1:18:57 10 different groups that work on
1:18:58 different types of projects and usually
1:19:00 they meet outside our scheduled meetings
1:19:02 but since people have been pretty busy
1:19:03 in january with finals
1:19:05 we decided we wanted those meetings just
1:19:07 to work on our different projects
1:19:10 in terms of events one group put on a
1:19:12 valentine's day craft sort of thing
1:19:14 over zoom it was sort of a teaching
1:19:17 thing they taught the kids how to make
1:19:18 crafts
1:19:20 and that was in earlier february um
1:19:24 and other than that we have a meeting
1:19:25 tomorrow that's going to be another work
1:19:27 meeting
1:19:28 um since people were sort of off on
1:19:31 break not really working on staff
1:19:32 relaxing
1:19:34 um and beyond that we plan to have more
1:19:36 events in march and april
1:19:40 great thanks for that and thank you for
1:19:42 joining us to
1:19:43 inform us about that appreciate that
1:19:45 greatly
1:19:48 uh jeff you got anything from the mayor
1:19:54 uh nothing new other than again a big
1:19:58 thank you
1:19:58 i know as we forwarded the central park
1:20:00 turf project to council
1:20:02 she too was very appreciative of the
1:20:05 discussion we had at our last park board
1:20:06 meeting so
1:20:08 on behalf of the mayor big thanks
1:20:13 anybody else have any other
1:20:16 business or announcements
1:20:22 looks like uh we're winding down to
1:20:24 closure here so
1:20:26 uh thanks everybody for um making it
1:20:29 tonight
1:20:30 and uh keep yourself safe and uh
1:20:33 we'll do this again next month so
1:20:36 with that meeting is adjourned have a
1:20:39 good evening
1:20:41 thanks so much thanks everyone good
1:20:42 night everybody