Equity Board · Wednesday, May 1, 2024 · City Council Digest

3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of April 3, 2024 Meeting

packet pp.3–5

Open packet at p.3 ↗

Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 04-03-24 Equity Board Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Equity Board 6:00 PM Steelhead Room, 235 1st Ave. April 3, 2024 MINUTES SE, Issaquah

4. CHAIR REPORT

Opening Question Facilitated by: [10 mins. ] Priti Mody-Pan, Equity Board Chair

Topics: Equity

5. STAFF REPORT

Staff Report: Follow Up from April Meeting [5 mins. ]

Dale Markey-Crimp, Assistant to the City Administrator

6. AGENDA ITEMS

Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging Glossary [30 mins.]

Juliana da Cruz, Economic Development Coordinator Dale Markey-Crimp, Assistant to the City Administrator · packet pp.7–28

Topics: Equity

▶ Watch from 8:06 Open packet at p.7 ↗

Staff report:

The purpose of this memorandum is to provide an update and obtain feedback from the Equity Board on the development of the City’s Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging (DEIB) Glossary.

7. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

Administrative Items - Board Chair Election Process (June meeting) [10 mins.]

Dale Markey-Crimp, Assistant to the City Administrator

Topics: Elections

▶ Watch from 27:37

Closing Thought Facilitated by: [5 mins.] Priti Mody-Pan, Equity Board Chair

Topics: Equity

▶ Watch from 49:19

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0:03 ↗ are good to go well welcome I call the

0:07 ↗ May 1 uh Equity board meeting to order

0:11 ↗ at 6:02

0:12 ↗ pm and ly so we have uh one person

0:18 ↗ joining us by um um

0:23 ↗ teams and so um just for the benefit of

0:28 ↗ the person on team

0:31 ↗ um if you are on the phone you can press

0:34 ↗ side wait we're not on the

0:38 ↗ phone I think we're okay with like all

0:41 ↗ that all right um let's see and then I

0:45 ↗ guess we will go into public comments

0:47 ↗ and it looks like we may have public

0:49 ↗ comment today should we uh should we do

0:52 ↗ um roll call First oh yes we should

0:56 ↗ thank you I skip that um Dale please hi

1:00 ↗ I got you okay uh your name is called if

1:02 ↗ you could just say here you're here uh

1:04 ↗ voka yeah Lura Gilmore yeah shie kapor

1:09 ↗ here Ray manahan here lesle Mander

1:13 ↗ Irwin currently absent Frey pan Kelly

1:17 ↗ man here shria stava here and we have

1:21 ↗ four excused absences Tonight Christina

1:23 ↗ aons Tony Curry Chay Fleming and carthic

1:28 ↗ kashat thank you Dale and with that I

1:32 ↗ think we could go to public comments and

1:35 ↗ it looks like we have a hand raised for

1:37 ↗ public comments um Connie could you

1:40 ↗ please go

1:42 ↗ ahead all right are am I hearable and

1:49 ↗ seeable okay so uh I was

1:55 ↗ reading all of the list of definitions

2:00 ↗ and it was fascinating reading really um

2:03 ↗ it's hard to imagine how they're the

2:06 ↗ complexity of them is going to be used

2:11 ↗ uh but I had a few that I'm just G to

2:14 ↗ name that I thought

2:16 ↗ were um maybe esecially awkward to me

2:22 ↗ and uh a couple that I liked so the word

2:27 ↗ Ally um

2:30 ↗ as a very complex definition the word

2:35 ↗ belonging I like uh meaning that

2:38 ↗ everyone is treated and feels like a

2:41 ↗ full member of a larger community and

2:44 ↗ Thrive so for that one I'm not sure how

2:48 ↗ you judge someone's feeling of

2:51 ↗ belonging um and if someone says they

2:54 ↗ don't feel like they belong what you do

2:57 ↗ with that so part of my looking at the

3:00 ↗ definitions

3:02 ↗ is uh so who's gonna say yes or no that

3:06 ↗ these things are are are not happening

3:10 ↗ which

3:12 ↗ brought brought me to actions because

3:16 ↗ there's a lot of words in here like

3:19 ↗ discrimination and

3:22 ↗ um uh oh my favorite which is

3:27 ↗ marginalized populations so

3:31 ↗ so

3:33 ↗ you there is such a thing as

3:35 ↗ discrimination there are marginalized

3:39 ↗ populations these are sort of facts

3:41 ↗ right but the reason we need them as a

3:44 ↗ tool in the toolkit is that we don't

3:48 ↗ want people marginalized and we want to

3:51 ↗ reduce discrimination as much as

3:53 ↗ possible

3:55 ↗ so the use of the terms aren't sort of

3:59 ↗ action

4:01 ↗ oriented they're they're factual and

4:05 ↗ so

4:07 ↗ that's the that is my like uh

4:12 ↗ microaggressions are you g to call

4:14 ↗ someone out and say you are being

4:18 ↗ microaggressive uh and then you say

4:20 ↗ where they are or aren't in our current

4:25 ↗ plans and that confused me a little bit

4:27 ↗ because I didn't understand whether we

4:29 ↗ are supposed to be be using these terms

4:31 ↗ in all plans now the same way and if

4:34 ↗ that's the case then the

4:36 ↗ definitions don't seem to be broad

4:39 ↗ enough they seem narrowly designed for

4:42 ↗ the plan that they are actually in so

4:45 ↗ I'm interested to listen to your

4:47 ↗ discussions and thoughts of the

4:50 ↗ definitions um I thought some of them

4:53 ↗ were were really fun pieces of

4:57 ↗ conversation so uh good luck and I hope

5:01 ↗ I was speaking

5:03 ↗ English all right thank you great thank

5:07 ↗ you Connie appreciate your

5:12 ↗ comments thank

5:21 ↗ you and okay so I think um we we will uh

5:26 ↗ do actually we'll probably do it right

5:28 ↗ now introduction for the group um so I'm

5:32 ↗ wondering if we could

5:34 ↗ um I guess I'm GNA ask you would it be

5:38 ↗ introductions with our opening question

5:41 ↗ and change the order of minutes why

5:44 ↗ don't we um why don't do minutes really

5:47 ↗ quickly and then do opening question and

5:49 ↗ introduction simultaneously okay that's

5:51 ↗ what we'll do and we'll introduce all

5:53 ↗ from the room so okay so let us move on

5:57 ↗ to the fendle to uh make uh to approve

6:03 ↗ the

6:03 ↗ minute um so would anyone well I'll give

6:07 ↗ everyone like a minute to quickly scan

6:09 ↗ the minutes they're in the packet

6:53 ↗ all right em and when someone is ready

6:55 ↗ could uh someone make a motion to

6:59 ↗ approve come minut

7:06 ↗ next feel

7:11 ↗ free thank you and do I have a

7:15 ↗ second fantastic all right any um does

7:18 ↗ anyone have uh comments or uh any um

7:22 ↗ items they would like to amend in the

7:25 ↗ minutes can I brain saying anything

7:31 ↗ absolutely what about those of us who

7:33 ↗ missed last time and didn't get into the

7:35 ↗ details of some of this should we hold

7:36 ↗ off questions till the end about your

7:39 ↗ discussion that we missed would that be

7:41 ↗ better let they propose that for other

7:42 ↗ business

7:44 ↗ okay if you'd like to propose that for

7:48 ↗ could we allow for further discussion

7:50 ↗ during other

7:54 ↗ business

7:56 ↗ so if I'm not hearing for any changes or

7:59 ↗ edits to the minutes I think we can

8:01 ↗ consider them approved yep all so moving

8:06 ↗ on to the next agenda item which is I

8:09 ↗ guess the chair report that so official

8:11 ↗ now um so I think and we do have a

8:14 ↗ number of new board members today so I

8:17 ↗ would like us to do an opening question

8:19 ↗ but maybe before responding to the

8:21 ↗ opening question do a little bit of

8:23 ↗ introduction about maybe uh Name Pro

8:27 ↗ pronouns if you would like to share them

8:30 ↗ and um how long you've been in isqua and

8:34 ↗ then an answer to the opening question

8:36 ↗ and um the opening question is and I was

8:39 ↗ inspired by all the folks who have

8:41 ↗ recently been traveling and so the

8:44 ↗ question is what is the most impactful

8:46 ↗ or surprising thing you've experienced

8:49 ↗ while

8:50 ↗ traveling and I would invite anyone to

8:52 ↗ go first and then call on the next

8:55 ↗ person until everyone's done

8:59 ↗ [Music]

9:01 ↗ the names pronouns how long you've been

9:03 ↗ in Isa and the response to the

9:06 ↗ question did you repeat the question

9:09 ↗ sure what is the most impactful

9:11 ↗ surprising thing you've

9:14 ↗ experienced I'll go I'm Kelly man um I

9:19 ↗ have been in Isa for five years but I

9:20 ↗ lived in samamish for 30 years before

9:22 ↗ that been around for a while um my

9:26 ↗ pronouns are she

9:27 ↗ her uh and most impactful is I just came

9:33 ↗ back from Africa and yes it was very

9:37 ↗ imul but um one thing that stood out is

9:40 ↗ I spent a lot of time in South Africa

9:42 ↗ and a lot of time in Tanzania and South

9:44 ↗ Africa

9:46 ↗ is you know I don't need to go through

9:49 ↗ the history of South Africa but it was

9:51 ↗ absolutely awe inspiring in Tanzania to

9:54 ↗ see um black people running the

9:58 ↗ businesses

9:59 ↗ doing the businesses managing the

10:02 ↗ businesses and and also doing the

10:04 ↗ regular jobs whereas in South Africa

10:08 ↗ that's not what you saw what you saw was

10:11 ↗ a very very structured society that is

10:13 ↗ still very St and so it was really

10:16 ↗ inspiring to say I led being in Tanzania

10:18 ↗ and would recommend it to

10:24 ↗ anybody Johnny would you like to go next

10:27 ↗ um my name is shaie uh Shan Kapur um we

10:31 ↗ relocated from Alabama 3 years back so

10:33 ↗ I'm currently in samamish but I think

10:36 ↗ within the boundary of AA my kids go to

10:39 ↗ squa uh School District um my pronouns

10:43 ↗ are pronouns are she and her um so the

10:47 ↗ most impactful and surprising thing is

10:50 ↗ um the last travel we did was December

10:52 ↗ but

10:54 ↗ it regardless of that it's still so easy

10:58 ↗ to

10:59 ↗ um start conversations with complete

11:03 ↗ strangers um and um and we've seen that

11:08 ↗ growing up and we've done that and

11:09 ↗ nobody at that time thinks of any

11:11 ↗ boundaries and any um any sort of you

11:15 ↗ know you don't prac at people you just

11:17 ↗ start conversations so just seeing um my

11:21 ↗ kids who are now completely ruled by

11:24 ↗ Electronics to sort of experience that

11:28 ↗ during family travels is just that kind

11:31 ↗ of brings you back to the foundation of

11:33 ↗ some of the values and it makes me happy

11:35 ↗ and it's impactful to see and encourage

11:41 ↗ that you for the call oh

11:46 ↗ okay hello everyone Ray manahan he and

11:50 ↗ I've been a member of the equity board

11:53 ↗ since Inception what was that 20

11:57 ↗ November 2021 I start so welcome all our

12:01 ↗ new

12:02 ↗ membersk um let's see trips let's one

12:05 ↗ that first came into mind is so I'm from

12:07 ↗ the Philippines I was born there but we

12:09 ↗ immigrated here to the United States

12:11 ↗ when I was quite young at four years old

12:13 ↗ I've only had two trips back there one

12:15 ↗ when I was 11 in

12:18 ↗ 1979 and then we went back as a family

12:20 ↗ very large family in um 2019 right

12:23 ↗ before the pain so we missed all the

12:26 ↗ shutdowns and everything but

12:29 ↗ try to abbreviate this my mom is from

12:31 ↗ the city in Manila right smack in the

12:34 ↗ city my dad however is a farmer and to

12:37 ↗ get to his Province it is a 10 to 12

12:40 ↗ hour very long

12:42 ↗ windy not comfortable bus ride from the

12:45 ↗ city to his Province so for me and my

12:47 ↗ husband and for my daughter and they're

12:49 ↗ both white to be immersed in this very

12:52 ↗ Asian dark Islander color Community was

12:56 ↗ really impactful to to go back to my

12:58 ↗ family that I hadn't seen in so long and

13:00 ↗ to bring my family and how amazing it

13:02 ↗ was to reconnect people's St this is

13:05 ↗ 2019 that was an amazing

13:08 ↗ trip thanks for sh letting me

13:11 ↗ share so um pure self just want to hear

13:15 ↗ about your

13:16 ↗ Scot that was not what I was going to

13:18 ↗ share about um but we can at Social time

13:22 ↗ after I will tell you all about Scotland

13:24 ↗ okay um I have many praises to sing

13:26 ↗ about that um but d

13:29 ↗ Mary crimp she her I work for the city

13:31 ↗ of esqua as the assistant to the city

13:33 ↗ administrator and I've worked for the

13:35 ↗ city since June of

13:37 ↗ 20121 um lived in the greater pet Sound

13:40 ↗ area since August of

13:43 ↗ 2019 um I think what first came to mind

13:47 ↗ uh in response pry to your question

13:49 ↗ about an impactful or surprising thing

13:52 ↗ wasn't technically I wasn't just I was

13:55 ↗ traveling but I was traveling for an

13:56 ↗ internship um so I was working but I

13:59 ↗ spent um a summer working in Aman Jordan

14:03 ↗ between my uh sophomore and junior year

14:06 ↗ of college with uh Refuge Palestinian

14:10 ↗ Iraqi uh Refugee girls specifically with

14:14 ↗ an organization called reclaimed

14:15 ↗ childhood I was working with Refugee

14:17 ↗ girls and women to play uh to to teach

14:21 ↗ soccer and then ultimately now um to

14:26 ↗ sustain J coaching jobs for women in the

14:29 ↗ community um of East Aman who now coach

14:32 ↗ the soccer teams that people like me

14:34 ↗ were recruited to do you know over a

14:37 ↗ decade ago um those are now jobs that

14:38 ↗ are held and paid uh to the women that

14:41 ↗ live there and I think one of the things

14:43 ↗ I just that remains

14:46 ↗ um maybe impactful was actually not so

14:50 ↗ much the experience itself in Jordan but

14:53 ↗ coming back to the United States and

14:54 ↗ learning that some of the poverty that I

14:56 ↗ witnessed in Jordan was present here in

14:58 ↗ the United United States um you know

15:01 ↗ maybe not in the same sort of shanty

15:04 ↗ town structure that you'd see in East on

15:06 ↗ but that people living without running

15:08 ↗ water without heat without electricity

15:10 ↗ um exists all over our country and that

15:13 ↗ was really I think that realization

15:15 ↗ really changed the course of my career

15:17 ↗ and my um trajectory of my life in a lot

15:20 ↗ of

15:21 ↗ ways

15:23 ↗ um

15:25 ↗ verica um I'm verica uh she her pronouns

15:29 ↗ and I've lived in I actually live in

15:30 ↗ samamish for the past 10 years but we

15:33 ↗ lived in isqua like five years before

15:35 ↗ that um but I think if like one main

15:39 ↗ thing uh I would say I learned from like

15:40 ↗ a really nice vacation or experience was

15:43 ↗ like three years ago during the summer I

15:44 ↗ went to Hawaii and we had like a really

15:46 ↗ nice vacation and all that but one of

15:48 ↗ the days we actually spent my friend and

15:50 ↗ I spent in a girl's orphanage so we kind

15:53 ↗ of got to like spend a whole day with

15:54 ↗ like girls from the orphanage and just

15:56 ↗ like you know like have a day with them

15:57 ↗ and spend it with them and see how it is

15:59 ↗ in their lives it actually like a pretty

16:02 ↗ enriching experience um and we got to

16:04 ↗ know like how like different people

16:05 ↗ around the world are living so I learned

16:08 ↗ a few lessons from that

16:10 ↗ yeah what's next um can all right um so

16:15 ↗ my name is Canal shab I use he him

16:18 ↗ pronouns um I live in sanish also um

16:21 ↗ I've lived there for

16:24 ↗ 11 yeah 11 years now before I lived in

16:28 ↗ Virginia

16:29 ↗ yeah I was born there and my most

16:33 ↗ impactful experience on vacation was

16:35 ↗ over winter break I actually went to uh

16:38 ↗ Singapore

16:39 ↗ Malaysia um to visit family and instead

16:44 ↗ of going to all like the city areas we

16:46 ↗ went to more rural areas and I the

16:49 ↗ people there were really helpful and I

16:52 ↗ honestly wasn't expecting that and

16:56 ↗ another thing that was surprising to me

16:57 ↗ was how many them actually spoke English

17:00 ↗ they're all they could all hold a pretty

17:02 ↗ good conversation and it kind of like

17:05 ↗ contradicted my belief that people who

17:07 ↗ are in Ral areas often are like they

17:11 ↗ probably don't have the same level of

17:12 ↗ Education as us or they are not welcome

17:15 ↗ for out they're not welcome to other

17:18 ↗ Outsiders so that really helped change

17:20 ↗ my

17:26 ↗ perspective I know I guess for kind of

17:29 ↗ doing this the table and I am Leslie

17:32 ↗ Mander irin my pronouns are she her um

17:37 ↗ I've been in Isa for almost almost 13

17:42 ↗ months so yeah I had to actually do the

17:44 ↗ map I came first in March and then my

17:47 ↗ husband and son uh came in uh April uh

17:51 ↗ doing the last of our belongings that

17:52 ↗ could not fit in the big giant TR um

17:56 ↗ let's see um we live in a South L and

17:59 ↗ Nish um beautiful uh neighborhood glad

18:02 ↗ to be there um haven't done a lot of

18:05 ↗ traveling but I was thinking about the

18:08 ↗ question and I think my most impactful

18:11 ↗ experience when I've traveled has been

18:14 ↗ the Customs around food around how

18:18 ↗ people join to eat spice levels just

18:21 ↗ basically how people commun in and are

18:24 ↗ and being around food um probably some

18:27 ↗ of my best experiences have been around

18:29 ↗ a meal and that's either sitting on the

18:31 ↗ floor or in a fancy restaurant or what

18:33 ↗ have you it's just how we came in

18:41 ↗ so

18:43 ↗ you

18:45 ↗ um

18:47 ↗ okay I'm Cy not I use she her pronouns

18:51 ↗ and um been in isqua since 2012 with

18:55 ↗ family and um the most

19:00 ↗ impactful I wish I had this framed up

19:02 ↗ better but a couple years ago went to um

19:04 ↗ Vietnam Hanoi which is like Northern

19:06 ↗ Vietnam and I realized it was the first

19:09 ↗ time I'd been in a country where the

19:12 ↗ United States was very much seen as like

19:16 ↗ the bad guys you know and seeing like

19:18 ↗ the museums and stuff so history you

19:21 ↗ know they framed up you know like what

19:23 ↗ we consider the Vietnam War much much

19:26 ↗ differently than how we would talk about

19:28 ↗ it here and it just I kind of knew it in

19:31 ↗ my head but it really just kind of

19:32 ↗ opened in my eyes to like the world is

19:34 ↗ not centered nor should it be centered

19:36 ↗ on the US and nor are Americans welcomed

19:39 ↗ everywhere and so made me aware of the

19:41 ↗ privilege of being an American and

19:43 ↗ traveling the world for the most

19:45 ↗ part and

19:47 ↗ Lura thank you Lura Gilmore I have been

19:50 ↗ in isqua since

19:52 ↗ 2000 and um my pronounce as she her also

20:00 ↗ question um a long impact so my impact

20:04 ↗ was I had I went to Bali in 2020 I was

20:08 ↗ actually traveling right as Co was

20:11 ↗ hitting going through Taiwan was

20:13 ↗ exciting and scary at the same time lots

20:16 ↗ of questions should we go should we not

20:17 ↗ go but honestly the answer in the end

20:20 ↗ between should we not go with four very

20:22 ↗ different reason I was so horrified and

20:26 ↗ shocked at how dirty

20:30 ↗ I you see it on TV of people cleaning

20:33 ↗ rivers and such and I lived in Guatemala

20:37 ↗ where I actually did cleanups and

20:38 ↗ everything but to me Vol was going to be

20:40 ↗ different because it was a tourist

20:42 ↗ location right and it was much more

20:46 ↗ developed in my mind because of the

20:48 ↗ influx of money and everything but it

20:51 ↗ was literally horrifying that the rivers

20:54 ↗ were just strewn with plastic and debris

20:58 ↗ and and it was horrifying to see the

21:01 ↗ impact of Tourism and I love to travel

21:04 ↗ and so I had to ask myself how important

21:08 ↗ is it that we visit some of these

21:10 ↗ locations that really can handle

21:13 ↗ tourism and what is the impact of

21:16 ↗ Tourism

21:17 ↗ on countries that are tiny Islands if

21:21 ↗ we're not doing something like I feel

21:23 ↗ like I had to take away all the trash

21:25 ↗ that I was using onland because they

21:27 ↗ didn't know how to deal with it

21:29 ↗ and so when people tell me like oh you

21:31 ↗ deali how was it I'm thinking of going I

21:33 ↗ tell them don't don't go the best thing

21:36 ↗ you can do for that space is not visit

21:40 ↗ just because you'll mitigate and

21:42 ↗ minimize the negative impact on that and

21:45 ↗ for me now I do the same thing as I

21:48 ↗ travel or plan travel and lastly I also

21:52 ↗ want to say that I also live in South

21:54 ↗ Lake samamish I live in the South Cove

21:56 ↗ area so after this meeting with to talk

21:59 ↗ with you and welcome to abolutely thank

22:02 ↗ you I'm agree with so

22:08 ↗ fantastic Julie Juliana you're gonna be

22:10 ↗ joining the conversation pretty soon

22:12 ↗ would you like to

22:18 ↗ participate actually grew up in laa was

22:21 ↗ my middle school science teacher so I

22:24 ↗ feel fortunate to have been taught by

22:26 ↗ such a wonderful education person here

22:30 ↗ um I work for the city of climate

22:32 ↗ Economic Development

22:33 ↗ coordinator um and I was really going

22:36 ↗ back and forth on this question in my

22:38 ↗ mind um but most recently my husband and

22:41 ↗ I traveled to New Zealand um and

22:43 ↗ thinking about the sustainable tourism

22:46 ↗ and travel was really fascinating um

22:49 ↗ especially from an economic developer L

22:51 ↗ I could really see the tangible thought

22:53 ↗ going behind it about how we preserve um

22:56 ↗ our natural resources and um celebrate

23:00 ↗ the culture and then getting to learn

23:02 ↗ about the M people and how tribal

23:06 ↗ relations are so different there but

23:07 ↗ also some

23:14 ↗ similarities okay well then on to Dale

23:16 ↗ for the staff report excellent um as a

23:20 ↗ reminder for folks that have been here

23:22 ↗ and as a um a bit of information for

23:25 ↗ folks just joining us the intention of

23:28 ↗ my staff rep report at the top of our

23:31 ↗ meetings is twofold one is to provide an

23:33 ↗ update on the impact of the equity board

23:37 ↗ um the impact you're having each month

23:38 ↗ as staff come and present and receive

23:41 ↗ feedback and then two to keep keep us

23:44 ↗ all apprised of key administrative tasks

23:47 ↗ responsibilities things like that so in

23:50 ↗ April the equity board provided input

23:51 ↗ and feedback on our City's upcoming Bal

23:54 ↗ budget process um ahead of the first

23:57 ↗ discussion of about budget priorities

23:59 ↗ that city council will have at their

24:01 ↗ retreat in Late July I believe it's July

24:04 ↗ 27th um which is an open meeting that

24:06 ↗ anyone is welcome to

24:08 ↗ attend last month uh when they came to

24:11 ↗ present uh they shared their current

24:13 ↗ thinking around how to support City

24:15 ↗ Council in using an equity lens When

24:18 ↗ approaching and engaging in the B budget

24:21 ↗ process this ask was spec the ask from

24:23 ↗ them was specifically to support them

24:26 ↗ and how to support Council

24:29 ↗ in considering Equity from the outset of

24:31 ↗ their deliberations rather than sort of

24:33 ↗ as an add-on at the end now apply a lens

24:35 ↗ of equity but how can we set Council up

24:36 ↗ from the beginning um and staff had

24:39 ↗ initially come and actually one of the

24:40 ↗ things they said at the top of their

24:41 ↗ presentation was we thought about having

24:44 ↗ them use the equity framework but we

24:45 ↗ don't think that and we we were not sure

24:47 ↗ that's the right tool we don't in fact I

24:49 ↗ think they said we don't think that's

24:50 ↗ the right tool I almost went and

24:51 ↗ rewatched the video but I was like I I

24:53 ↗ lived it once I'm not going to go back

24:54 ↗ in time right now um and actually one of

24:57 ↗ the pieces

24:58 ↗ feedback that this group gave was whoa

25:00 ↗ whoa whoa there are some really helpful

25:02 ↗ questions so maybe you don't want to use

25:04 ↗ all 13 of them but potentially you can

25:08 ↗ pick two or three or four questions that

25:10 ↗ Council might use at the outset to do

25:12 ↗ two things to consider how their past

25:16 ↗ priorities in Prior years might have and

25:19 ↗ sort of think about the the impact that

25:22 ↗ those past priorities may have had or

25:24 ↗ currently having on our community and

25:26 ↗ then also in considering the potential

25:28 ↗ impact of their current interests um and

25:31 ↗ priorities going into 2025 and 26 and so

25:34 ↗ part of the feed they they took that

25:36 ↗ feedback and they actually have changed

25:37 ↗ their minds and they said actually now

25:39 ↗ we are going to use some of the

25:40 ↗ questions from the framework um the four

25:42 ↗ that they shared with me um earlier this

25:46 ↗ week though they did the team did also

25:48 ↗ say these are the four we think we want

25:50 ↗ to use but we need to think about it a

25:52 ↗ little bit more thankfully July 27th is

25:55 ↗ still a good ways away they came to us

25:56 ↗ with plenty of time but four that

25:58 ↗ they're currently thinking about is what

26:00 ↗ is my understanding of the groups being

26:02 ↗ impacted by my current and past

26:04 ↗ decisions have we heard from disparately

26:07 ↗ impacted communities before we may were

26:09 ↗ making current determinations or

26:11 ↗ decisions what evidence has supported

26:14 ↗ our decisions and how have we challenged

26:17 ↗ unsupported assumptions that we are

26:18 ↗ making have we sacrificed the experience

26:21 ↗ of marginalized people for the comfort

26:23 ↗ and safety of those holding privilege

26:25 ↗ and who will benefit or be burdened by

26:27 ↗ the decisions we are ring additionally

26:30 ↗ um as staff manager of the city's

26:33 ↗ internal Equity team Deputy City

26:35 ↗ administrator Andrea Snyder will return

26:38 ↗ to the board um in the in probably the

26:40 ↗ late fall is what she's estimating to

26:43 ↗ further discuss the proposed Equity

26:45 ↗ assessment that was discussed in our

26:47 ↗ April meeting so she'd like to come back

26:49 ↗ you know they'll be carrying that

26:51 ↗ forward and we'll be putting it into the

26:53 ↗ budget um and presuming it is approved

26:55 ↗ wants to come back and re-engage the

26:57 ↗ equity board as we think about what does

26:59 ↗ that assessment look like um have this

27:02 ↗ group provide input on the uh request

27:06 ↗ for proposals that will go out to hire a

27:09 ↗ consultant to come in and do that and

27:11 ↗ then also have this group provide some

27:12 ↗ input potentially we'll assemble a

27:14 ↗ subcommittee to help provide some input

27:16 ↗ on any bids that we get for that work so

27:19 ↗ she'll come back she wanted to share

27:20 ↗ that um I know she shared that when she

27:22 ↗ was here in April but wanted to share

27:23 ↗ that again um and then I have just two

27:26 ↗ upcoming items that are helpful to know

27:30 ↗ um one we will be nominating and voting

27:32 ↗ for chair and vice chair at our upcoming

27:34 ↗ June meeting we will talk more about

27:37 ↗ this later in the other business today

27:38 ↗ I'll give you a little bit of what does

27:40 ↗ that mean what will that look like so

27:42 ↗ that normally and I think in past years

27:46 ↗ you all have elected your chair and vice

27:48 ↗ chair at this meeting but in talking

27:50 ↗ with pry we felt it was important to we

27:52 ↗ have a bunch of new members and we felt

27:54 ↗ it was important it'd be weird for you

27:56 ↗ to vote for a chair or a vice chair here

27:58 ↗ at your first meeting and so I'm hoping

28:00 ↗ that by next month you feel a little bit

28:01 ↗ more um prepared to do so and then as

28:05 ↗ some of you likely saw um and I think

28:07 ↗ for Bo board members that were here

28:09 ↗ ahead of April our July meeting we were

28:12 ↗ going to be moving that we are

28:13 ↗ officially moving that thank you to

28:15 ↗ everyone that responded with your

28:17 ↗ availability um the most people were

28:19 ↗ available on the 17th so we are moving

28:22 ↗ the July meeting from a regular meeting

28:25 ↗ which would have been July 3rd um um to

28:29 ↗ Wednesday July 17th so two weeks later

28:32 ↗ and the location will be across the

28:34 ↗ street here at the Lewis house that kind

28:37 ↗ of gray blue

28:40 ↗ situation um and I will have more

28:42 ↗ details as we approach that time and

28:45 ↗ that is my

28:48 ↗ report thank you Dale and uh Juliana

28:52 ↗ invite you to come join us and I

28:54 ↗ realized I just moved this extra chair

28:56 ↗ out okay and then do you have any

28:59 ↗ opening comments to set up or I I do not

29:03 ↗ I will have some ongoing comments

29:04 ↗ throughout though

29:07 ↗ yeah so don't

29:10 ↗ worry well thank you so much for having

29:13 ↗ me um I've already introduced myself I

29:15 ↗ am uh one of the staff on our internal

29:18 ↗ Equity team and I've been part of this

29:21 ↗ subcommittee um with a few other folks

29:24 ↗ and Dale to work on this clery

29:32 ↗ there we go um so today you may have

29:35 ↗ seen in a packet we have a draft of the

29:37 ↗ glossery and so we wanted to give you an

29:39 ↗ update on the status and get your

29:42 ↗ feedback and input about what you see

29:43 ↗ and what improvements we can

29:46 ↗ make specifically we're go we're asking

29:49 ↗ for um input around these five questions

29:53 ↗ we recognize there were a lot of

29:55 ↗ questions um but we are mainly looking

29:57 ↗ for input on the terms that we've

30:00 ↗ included in the glossery um are there

30:04 ↗ terms that you'd like to discuss in more

30:06 ↗ detail our public comment offered a few

30:08 ↗ for

30:09 ↗ consideration um there also we also have

30:12 ↗ a question around um any sort of cases

30:16 ↗ where there's a primary term um again

30:19 ↗ related to sort of there are different

30:22 ↗ words and phrases that might be used is

30:24 ↗ there one that this group specifically

30:26 ↗ recommends we use as a primary term in a

30:28 ↗ few different cases also as mentioned in

30:31 ↗ the memo um and in the presentation

30:34 ↗ there has been consideration about a

30:36 ↗ section for terms and words that should

30:37 ↗ be avoided we're looking for input from

30:40 ↗ this group on whether to have that

30:43 ↗ section and if so if there are any terms

30:45 ↗ that you would recommend the city begin

30:48 ↗ the process of um avoiding or moving

30:51 ↗ away from in the language that we use

30:54 ↗ and if there anything else we'll talk a

30:55 ↗ little bit about our own considerations

30:57 ↗ we've made around implementation and

30:59 ↗ process so not just content but process

31:02 ↗ um and is there anything else the city

31:03 ↗ should consider as we implement this

31:06 ↗ glosy so that is what we're looking for

31:08 ↗ in terms of Direction this

31:11 ↗ evening just a little background on how

31:14 ↗ we got here so in the past two years

31:18 ↗ we've heard from staff and in City

31:20 ↗ boards and commissions um and even in

31:23 ↗ some policy

31:24 ↗ documents there's some confusion around

31:26 ↗ what these terms mean and there's a lot

31:28 ↗ of different um definitions available

31:31 ↗ online and so we did an analysis in the

31:35 ↗ past year or really in the last quarter

31:38 ↗ of last year of what terms are referred

31:41 ↗ to in our existing policy documents so

31:43 ↗ it's not exactly comprehensive glossery

31:46 ↗ but we wrote down all the terms that

31:48 ↗ already appear in published documents

31:50 ↗ and then we started to research uh

31:54 ↗ existing definitions for these terms so

31:56 ↗ our goal with this subcommittee was not

31:58 ↗ to write our own definitions but to

32:00 ↗ defer to definitions that exist already

32:03 ↗ and to sort of congregate them so that

32:04 ↗ we had something definitive to point to

32:08 ↗ and we developed a draft cossery that

32:10 ↗ was attached to

32:13 ↗ this so now uh the update with a

32:16 ↗ beautiful photo I gotta say it's one of

32:18 ↗ my favorite ones um so in terms of the

32:21 ↗ progress we've made on drafting you've

32:22 ↗ you've seen the progress we've made it's

32:24 ↗ it's the document that was in your

32:26 ↗ packet um specifically we've worked a

32:29 ↗ lot on determining which terms to use um

32:32 ↗ and so we prioritized using we

32:35 ↗ prioritized def finding terms that are

32:36 ↗ already in use in City documents um this

32:40 ↗ board was one of the boards that has

32:42 ↗ indicated to multiple people that have

32:44 ↗ visited hey what's your definition of

32:46 ↗ that term that you have in there and so

32:49 ↗ those documents have since moved forward

32:50 ↗ and been adopted however there is a need

32:53 ↗ to still Define what some of those terms

32:54 ↗ mean and so we prioritized first

32:58 ↗ as Juliana

32:59 ↗ mentioned just defining terms that have

33:02 ↗ already that are already in use we also

33:05 ↗ um prioritized terms that we consider to

33:07 ↗ be foundational terms so something that

33:09 ↗ we might you might actually need to know

33:11 ↗ this is a silly example but as this

33:14 ↗ group but you need to know what the word

33:15 ↗ Equity means to talk

33:18 ↗ about inequities um that might be being

33:21 ↗ perpetuated and so it wasn't like that

33:24 ↗ word was going to be left off but I

33:26 ↗ think a good example of you need to have

33:28 ↗ some words that may not show up in any

33:29 ↗ of our documents but are foundational

33:31 ↗ for us understanding some of the other

33:33 ↗ words in

33:34 ↗ there then we said about and actually

33:37 ↗ this was recommended by staff

33:39 ↗ specifically that there are some terms

33:41 ↗ that are used in um historical

33:45 ↗ documentation across the city words like

33:47 ↗ stakeholder which I know this group has

33:49 ↗ discussed that are terms that we'd like

33:51 ↗ to start removing and or definitely

33:54 ↗ phasing out and so the question then

33:56 ↗ came up with are other terms um should

33:59 ↗ there be an entire section in this

34:01 ↗ document about terms to avoid um knowing

34:03 ↗ that that's going to lead to some bigger

34:05 ↗ conversations we had a really rich one

34:06 ↗ that I'm sure we can talk more about uh

34:09 ↗ about a few terms that show up in some

34:10 ↗ of our um in gosh our core values um and

34:15 ↗ then last definitions as julana

34:17 ↗ mentioned they're sourced from other

34:20 ↗ government agencies nonprofit

34:21 ↗ organizations academic institutions we

34:24 ↗ don't see ourselves in the business of

34:26 ↗ inventing definitions that is not we are

34:28 ↗ not the experts we're not here to do

34:30 ↗ this and I wouldn't say that's the role

34:31 ↗ of this board either to invent any

34:33 ↗ definitions but instead went about sort

34:36 ↗ of gathering and bringing together

34:38 ↗ definitions for some of these terms and

34:40 ↗ words from different places they are

34:43 ↗ it's our sources are referenced in the

34:44 ↗ draft document um and then through

34:48 ↗ discussion with the internal Equity team

34:50 ↗ choosing which definition we felt was

34:52 ↗ most um appropriate given our context

34:57 ↗ and also

34:58 ↗ some of the internal training that's

35:00 ↗ already happening for staff so if we're

35:01 ↗ going to define equity in one way we

35:03 ↗ want to make sure that it's it's shows

35:05 ↗ up the same way and whatever internal uh

35:08 ↗ training staff is

35:10 ↗ getting a little bit more about the

35:13 ↗ process and how we see this glossery

35:14 ↗ working is we think that the primary

35:16 ↗ audience here is to be staff um and so

35:19 ↗ the access to this document will be

35:21 ↗ provided as part of our staff onboarding

35:23 ↗ process which is called qua 101 and then

35:26 ↗ it would be an an evergreen document on

35:29 ↗ our our Equity team SharePoint which all

35:31 ↗ staff can access and then we do want to

35:34 ↗ make this available publicly so

35:36 ↗ especially if it comes up in boards and

35:38 ↗ commissions that the public can also

35:40 ↗ refer back to this document to

35:42 ↗ understand the used

35:44 ↗ in so we think that we would um share it

35:48 ↗ as well on the public city website and

35:50 ↗ we kind of were imagining this working

35:52 ↗ similar to the cultural and religious

35:54 ↗ calendar um where the terms would terms

35:59 ↗ would be proposed based on how they're

36:01 ↗ already being used but that this board

36:04 ↗ could review the terms every four years

36:07 ↗ and make sure that they're still

36:08 ↗ relevant and make sure we're not missing

36:11 ↗ anything and then if there is an adhoc

36:13 ↗ addition that something comes up and

36:15 ↗ we're like this brely needs to be a term

36:17 ↗ then we can kind of address that on a

36:18 ↗ Case by case basis um in in

36:20 ↗ collaboration with this work is the four

36:23 ↗ years concrete or is that subject to

36:27 ↗ discussion

36:29 ↗ everything subject to discussion at this

36:31 ↗ point I think it's mostly you know we

36:33 ↗ thought about this for the calendar it

36:35 ↗ was mostly to make sure that we kept

36:36 ↗ space on this board's work plan annually

36:39 ↗ that like we're not every year using an

36:41 ↗ entire meeting to review the calendar um

36:44 ↗ so I think we would say at least every

36:46 ↗ four years this board would do a formal

36:48 ↗ review um but if if this board wanted to

36:51 ↗ review it more frequently there's

36:53 ↗ nothing that would stop you from saying

36:55 ↗ hey let's actually we need to we need to

36:57 ↗ we have terms we need to add we could do

36:58 ↗ that Mar Qui can we have an agenda item

37:01 ↗ just to look at not a big deal meeting I

37:04 ↗ yeah I I just feel like in my experience

37:07 ↗ for years sometimes we find things have

37:10 ↗ changed just because we're growing and

37:12 ↗ as people move along on their Journey

37:14 ↗ things come up and I know I have changed

37:17 ↗ in the past 40 years

37:23 ↗ totally at the same time um so timing

37:26 ↗ and next steps we're here tonight in May

37:30 ↗ can't believe it it's already here uh to

37:32 ↗ get your input and feedback um following

37:35 ↗ our our evening this evening uh the

37:38 ↗ glossery sub it's a very that's a very

37:41 ↗ formal name for four people um as part

37:43 ↗ of our internal Equity team but the

37:44 ↗ glossery subcommittee is going to take

37:46 ↗ whatever feedback and input you provide

37:49 ↗ um Juliana and I are the representatives

37:51 ↗ from that group that will bring it back

37:53 ↗ to that group um to work on a final

37:55 ↗ draft after we've worked on that the

37:58 ↗ hope will be to bring that final draft

37:59 ↗ to the equity team internally for

38:02 ↗ revision finalization to share with the

38:05 ↗ city's senior leadership team and then

38:08 ↗ before you know a formal adoption to

38:11 ↗ return to this group with a final draft

38:13 ↗ in July or September depending on uh we

38:17 ↗ don't have our we don't have a meeting

38:18 ↗ in August so July or September depending

38:21 ↗ on where we are by July

38:26 ↗ 17th and these are again the the

38:28 ↗ questions that we're hoping to hear your

38:30 ↗ input on

38:32 ↗ so you want

38:36 ↗ to so do folks have any I

38:41 ↗ guess do we want to start with what

38:44 ↗ might be

38:45 ↗ missing can we look at the yes glossery

38:48 ↗ items I can pull I definitely like to

38:51 ↗ look at some of the definitions that

38:53 ↗ Connie had mentioned in discussion and I

38:56 ↗ would like to discuss the Lord

39:03 ↗ my second I know how to zoom I

39:08 ↗ swear oh I do you're

39:17 ↗ right

39:22 ↗ okay so you tell me where you'd like to

39:24 ↗ go

39:28 ↗ let me just start okay marginalized

39:30 ↗ populations can we call them

39:32 ↗ historically

39:36 ↗ marginalized because I think referring

39:38 ↗ also to what C said it is it is a group

39:42 ↗ that has it's a fact that they were

39:45 ↗ marginalized or maybe still are and are

39:50 ↗ um but we have the idea is we have

39:53 ↗ recognized what that who that group is

39:54 ↗ and we are actively working

39:58 ↗ towards recognizing their needs and

40:01 ↗ including them in conversation and

40:03 ↗ including them at the te so I think if

40:06 ↗ you call them historically marginalized

40:10 ↗ that is some that we are working on and

40:13 ↗ recognizing it's part of the recognition

40:15 ↗ of what has happened to a group of

40:18 ↗ people and the work that we are

40:20 ↗ currently doing and we can include that

40:22 ↗ in the definition to Rize those groups

40:25 ↗ so when different groups are looking at

40:28 ↗ who is whose voice is heard whose voice

40:30 ↗ is not heard they can the action item

40:33 ↗ could be to look

40:36 ↗ for uh the other group is

40:39 ↗ microaggression um microaggression I

40:41 ↗ don't know in looking at IAM kend's book

40:44 ↗ how to be an

40:45 ↗ anti-racist A lot of people have

40:48 ↗ problems with the word microaggression

40:50 ↗ because it does not feel micro at all

40:53 ↗ and he recommends using the word verbal

40:56 ↗ attack and and attending some

40:58 ↗ conferences on Equity I hear that used

41:01 ↗ more because that's what it feels like

41:04 ↗ and that is the impact and

41:06 ↗ that because the word microaggression

41:08 ↗ tends to minimize the impact on the

41:12 ↗ person it's having and it can be like oh

41:15 ↗ it's a microaggression and many times

41:17 ↗ people don't understand that but if you

41:19 ↗ say verbal assault that is more

41:23 ↗ impactful and it goes straight to the

41:25 ↗ heart of how that was felt despite what

41:29 ↗ your intention

41:30 ↗ was my suggestion um I know the word

41:35 ↗ Ally is changing because the Ally is

41:38 ↗ just like a p but sometimes I hear the

41:41 ↗ word

41:42 ↗ co-conspirator you know they call it

41:44 ↗ kind of like Thon Louise ride or die not

41:47 ↗ suggesting death of course but someone

41:49 ↗ who is in

41:51 ↗ it to the end who is really willing to

41:55 ↗ stand up with you rather than like hey

41:57 ↗ I'm your friend but you know yeah it it

42:00 ↗ feels different right and very often

42:03 ↗ people who are experiencing

42:05 ↗ microaggression or racism they will know

42:08 ↗ who their Ally is versus who they true

42:11 ↗ but right my this is something that to

42:15 ↗ look at investigate ongo I I want to uh

42:18 ↗ second I mean all of them one because my

42:22 ↗ own experience with the word is shifting

42:25 ↗ a lot right now I know know that people

42:28 ↗ that I work with or do things with

42:30 ↗ really wanted to be not somebody who is

42:34 ↗ even a partner it is someone who is

42:36 ↗ actively doing the work that is an ally

42:40 ↗ do they don't have to even be with you

42:42 ↗ right they're and that's the implication

42:45 ↗ with

42:46 ↗ Ally I'll just add I feel like the word

42:49 ↗ Ally means it's it's not my problem but

42:51 ↗ I'm helping to solve your problem when

42:53 ↗ is

42:54 ↗ start perfect perfect

43:01 ↗ and last one minority I don't know how

43:04 ↗ many of minority groups are truly

43:07 ↗ minority it's to me it's negative unless

43:10 ↗ it's truly looking at at data and then

43:13 ↗ saying the majority of the blah blah

43:16 ↗ versus the minority otherwise referring

43:18 ↗ to those people that it's

43:24 ↗ referencing because I think using

43:26 ↗ underserved historically marginalized

43:29 ↗ vulnerable

43:30 ↗ population you know sometimes I think

43:33 ↗ those might be better

43:36 ↗ descriptors so can I close a question

43:39 ↗ question yes so that is that is almost

43:43 ↗ exactly on the nose of what we're

43:45 ↗ interested in hearing more about in

43:47 ↗ terms of priority language too um so for

43:50 ↗ example in Economic Development um the

43:53 ↗ office Sac wrong but the office of women

43:58 ↗ and minority

44:00 ↗ owned

44:01 ↗ Entre business entrepreneur there's an a

44:05 ↗ specific acronym and a lot of Grants

44:07 ↗ reference back to that and

44:10 ↗ so it would be helpful to have that word

44:14 ↗ defin but we could still say as part of

44:18 ↗ policy documents we prefer the use of so

44:21 ↗ and so phrase and so 100% agree it's

44:23 ↗ kind of like the use of the word Indian

44:26 ↗ in many books and we say please stop

44:28 ↗ using that because I am an Indian these

44:31 ↗ people are indigenous people and so how

44:34 ↗ it's being used and long term but at the

44:36 ↗ same time there are many tribal groups

44:39 ↗ that do have the word Indian Indian name

44:42 ↗ and so I'm not also going to go back and

44:45 ↗ tell them no I'm an in Indian you're not

44:47 ↗ right not but how do we have this

44:51 ↗ conversation y

45:01 ↗ others so I have a long list of on and

45:05 ↗ so I'm not I don't know I don't think

45:07 ↗ it's the best use of our time to go

45:08 ↗ through all of them but um I could give

45:10 ↗ you my sticky

45:12 ↗ note words to

45:15 ↗ add yeah I actually think it is worthy

45:19 ↗ because it's worthy for us to know right

45:22 ↗ okay I think okay so well one one kind

45:25 ↗ of theme

45:27 ↗ that I was thinking about is like so

45:30 ↗ disability is

45:32 ↗ here

45:34 ↗ but what's the other what's the flip of

45:36 ↗ it and I think oftentimes we tag the

45:40 ↗ other yeah and we don't have a word for

45:43 ↗ what the norm is or what the assumption

45:46 ↗ is and I would rather that just be

45:48 ↗ called out so I'm thinking like you know

45:50 ↗ words like so

45:53 ↗ non-disabled uh like ableist or ableism

45:56 ↗ which is more of the negative

45:58 ↗ connotation around that

46:00 ↗ um like

46:02 ↗ cisgender versus um actually know that

46:06 ↗ opposite of that whatever the opposite

46:08 ↗ is you know so just kind of thinking

46:10 ↗ about not just the word the phrases that

46:14 ↗ are othering and for the you know

46:16 ↗ oppressed groups or you know but what is

46:19 ↗ the the other words so we can start

46:21 ↗ having a more Nuance conversation and

46:22 ↗ unpack the assumptions we

46:25 ↗ made um like I realized so racism is

46:29 ↗ here but I didn't see anti-racism

46:31 ↗ thought that was a good one to name

46:35 ↗ transgender um I have

46:38 ↗ lgbtq I A

46:41 ↗ Plus um we have belonging but we don't

46:44 ↗ have

46:45 ↗ othering um

46:47 ↗ whitness I basically said I had the

46:50 ↗ sticky note on my desk for a couple of

46:52 ↗ weeks and I was just Jing different col

46:54 ↗ time um antiblackness

46:58 ↗ um centering

47:01 ↗ decentering social justice you know I

47:04 ↗ know Justice was in there um bias

47:07 ↗ another word that I think is coming up

47:09 ↗ more in the solution space is like

47:12 ↗ bridging um

47:14 ↗ disparity

47:16 ↗ inequity I have stakeholder down I were

47:19 ↗ not to use um

47:23 ↗ heteronormative uh bipo I know people

47:25 ↗ have next feelings about that but it is

47:28 ↗ kind of commonly Ed um assimilation or a

47:34 ↗ culturation

47:36 ↗ trauma targeted

47:39 ↗ universalism

47:41 ↗ culture

47:43 ↗ ethnicity

47:46 ↗ socialization and then just another word

47:48 ↗ to avoid that the use of the word

47:51 ↗ master um even like master dedroom

47:54 ↗ master um

47:57 ↗ oh like

47:58 ↗ slave you know using like instinct

48:02 ↗ people um and then I was

48:05 ↗ in a meeting a couple years ago and I

48:08 ↗ still remember it someone kept saying

48:10 ↗ the word talking about historical

48:12 ↗ context but so I don't know this is more

48:14 ↗ of like a what not to do what not to say

48:17 ↗ but kept using the word colored people

48:19 ↗ and I know there's a historical

48:21 ↗ reference for that but it just kept he

48:24 ↗ kept repeating it and repeating it and

48:25 ↗ repeating it and so I'm just like I so I

48:27 ↗ guess like a placeholder for maybe just

48:29 ↗ not just words not to use

48:32 ↗ but yeah like how to refer to historical

48:35 ↗ context something women and minority own

48:37 ↗ businesses we know some of these phrases

48:39 ↗ are just out of date but they're still

48:42 ↗ have historical value so those were that

48:44 ↗ was kind of my list right now maybe that

48:47 ↗ can go to what not to you yeah the only

48:51 ↗ other two words i' add to your list

48:53 ↗ would be colorism and nationality

48:55 ↗ because a lot of people get confused

48:57 ↗ nationality and um ethnicity versus

49:02 ↗ cultural

49:03 ↗ identity

49:10 ↗ y that was a pretty interesting way you

49:13 ↗ presented that that that the the other

49:14 ↗ side it's that we always identify one

49:17 ↗ side but not the other and that is

49:18 ↗ pretty thought-provoking thank you we

49:20 ↗ stopped seeing it right invisible het

49:22 ↗ normative right

49:24 ↗ yeah and so to that point like whiteness

49:27 ↗ I think should be named as

49:34 ↗ well other

49:37 ↗ thoughts and and pry started to bring us

49:39 ↗ into the the words and phrases to avoid

49:43 ↗ I think a direct question we had is

49:45 ↗ should should we have a section on that

49:47 ↗ in this glossery and if so what you know

49:50 ↗ what other words the the two that you

49:54 ↗ the four that you mentioned we already

49:56 ↗ have have three of those in our list

49:59 ↗ already um but I'm look we're looking

50:01 ↗ for others too your grandfather because

50:03 ↗ I know that's something that comes up a

50:04 ↗ lot in city and documents grandfather

50:14 ↗ grandfather I think there's also phrases

50:17 ↗ we use that we probably shouldn't use

50:20 ↗ like the panut

50:22 ↗ gallery

50:25 ↗ um yeah

50:28 ↗ y poow yep heard low hanging Pro

50:33 ↗ Y um and those ones are hard because

50:36 ↗ that becomes more a PD or sorry a

50:39 ↗ training for staff at meetings with

50:43 ↗ different you know versus something that

50:45 ↗ would actually be used in documents

50:48 ↗ andal conversations but maybe this is

50:51 ↗ something that people need to be aware

50:53 ↗ of as they interacting like a training

50:56 ↗ so I don't I it's hard because I know

50:59 ↗ that we have stayed away from cing what

51:02 ↗ not to

51:03 ↗ use yeah but it comes up very often that

51:06 ↗ many times people they're not even sure

51:09 ↗ and they don't know that they misspoke

51:11 ↗ yeah until someone says

51:16 ↗ something there's lots of examples of

51:19 ↗ ableist language you know like oh the

51:22 ↗ blind leading the

51:23 ↗ blind you know meeting Norms you know

51:26 ↗ Step Up step

51:40 ↗ back

51:41 ↗ other thoughts

51:46 ↗ comments one more

51:53 ↗ time no was going to do that

51:57 ↗ there we

52:12 ↗ go we did we did hear a little bit of

52:15 ↗ input from Laura on the last question in

52:18 ↗ terms of sort of actually coming back to

52:21 ↗ the board more frequently with this uh I

52:25 ↗ I support Laura on that

52:27 ↗ because it's changed so much in four

52:29 ↗ years really a lot so and this isn't

52:33 ↗ taking that long right yeah I would say

52:38 ↗ three years or two years I

52:40 ↗ don't I I would like it at least every

52:43 ↗ two

52:45 ↗ years going back to what Connie had said

52:48 ↗ about action

52:49 ↗ words um I thought that was a great

52:52 ↗ thought to have because very often like

52:56 ↗ we have certain words but we

52:59 ↗ don't right now A lot of people are also

53:03 ↗ using anti-racist because that's an

53:05 ↗ actionable word and there are some

53:07 ↗ things that come with it and so for

53:10 ↗ example she had asked about what to do

53:12 ↗ with the term belonging what happens if

53:13 ↗ someone doesn't belong and so I think

53:17 ↗ that's my question so for some of these

53:20 ↗ words as an FYI my team just got renamed

53:24 ↗ student belonging

53:26 ↗ I belong to belonging to it's like oh

53:29 ↗ now what does that mean right just kind

53:31 ↗ of puts you in a thing like what does

53:33 ↗ that mean for me and how do I help

53:36 ↗ people feel like they belong to the

53:39 ↗ school district and so that is something

53:41 ↗ we are constantly looking at and so how

53:44 ↗ do we take some of the words and say

53:46 ↗ what does that mean for that group

53:50 ↗ and I don't know where that word came

53:53 ↗ from because to me it's just a word

53:55 ↗ that's being used to keep

53:57 ↗ word maybe here but at least for me when

54:00 ↗ we put it in it's what we want so that

54:04 ↗ is it's not just a word it is a goal or

54:07 ↗ a vision mission so I think some of the

54:10 ↗ words we have there is an idea of why

54:14 ↗ it's behind there and so my question is

54:17 ↗ how like in the document is there

54:20 ↗ sentence in there that

54:22 ↗ says we will strive to do this to help

54:25 ↗ everyone belong or the belonging or we

54:29 ↗ will do blah blah blah to avoid racism

54:32 ↗ or I think it's just a thought for your

54:36 ↗ Equity yeah Dei statement and the the

54:40 ↗ bigger picture statement so that it then

54:42 ↗ comes into here for the definition

54:45 ↗ totally and I think it's sort of a

54:47 ↗ chicken in an egg when it comes to some

54:50 ↗ of that Vision setting that our internal

54:51 ↗ team is in the process of launching sort

54:55 ↗ of like need the basic definitions to be

54:59 ↗ able to have the conversation and then

55:01 ↗ probably that conversation will inform

55:04 ↗ potentially some tweaks or changes to

55:05 ↗ those definitions definitely the

55:07 ↗ evolution at least of this document for

55:09 ↗ sure yeah it's a great

55:13 ↗ Point well I would also like not

55:15 ↗ necessarily to put you

55:18 ↗ on I think are often maybe on The

55:20 ↗ Cutting Edge of some of the words the

55:23 ↗ phrases maybe what to use what not to

55:25 ↗ use so I would

55:29 ↗ invite I actually had a thought on the

55:32 ↗ Ally Point versus co conspirator um at

55:36 ↗ least for me at school I think it's the

55:39 ↗ word alies feels like more easier to

55:42 ↗ relate to to reflect those values um to

55:46 ↗ others that may being a co-conspirator

55:49 ↗ it just seems easier to understand for

55:51 ↗ some people that's just my thoughts on

55:55 ↗ them yeah I think Mobility like on your

55:58 ↗ descriptive noun is like a great thing

55:59 ↗ like that's the first thing that kind of

56:00 ↗ caught my eye um it may not like be

56:03 ↗ representable to everyone but I think

56:05 ↗ it's like a great addition there I was

56:07 ↗ just wondering like what w MB

56:14 ↗ other was it in the

56:17 ↗ glossery women in

56:22 ↗ minority women

56:27 ↗ yeah sometimes they do it in different

56:28 ↗ order so it's office of minority in

56:30 ↗ women business enterprises that's why

56:33 ↗ bus

56:35 ↗ yes so that might have uh yeah it's got

56:39 ↗ all the just different they mix the

56:43 ↗ yeah yeah so that one's a little bit

56:45 ↗ more Technical and part of the reason I

56:48 ↗ joined this um sub committee is because

56:51 ↗ my team just finished going through our

56:53 ↗ Action Plan update and so I was pulling

56:56 ↗ through it and one of the experiences of

56:58 ↗ putting together this plan is we were

57:00 ↗ like which term do we use we use the

57:03 ↗ term that is used by other government

57:05 ↗ organizations so we don't feel great

57:08 ↗ about it feels really fuzzy so it's

57:10 ↗ really nice to see this work

57:15 ↗ happen I think it's really important

57:17 ↗ work because we've been doing this work

57:19 ↗ for seven years and people still misde

57:22 ↗ Define equity and equality at Big

57:25 ↗ meetings y so I think that helps you

57:28 ↗ pause and say hey just to reminder this

57:31 ↗ is how we're defining it as an

57:34 ↗ organization so thank you for doing

57:38 ↗ this if there are no other thoughts at

57:41 ↗ the current moment um the good news is

57:44 ↗ our emails are always open I think we're

57:46 ↗ going to try to steal your sticky note

57:48 ↗ unless you feel emotionally attached to

57:50 ↗ it

57:52 ↗ amazing and uh we'll be back so as

57:56 ↗ mentioned in the PowerPoint um our next

57:58 ↗ step is to bring this feedback back to

58:00 ↗ our subcomittee um we'll work on some

58:04 ↗ next steps bring that to the equity team

58:06 ↗ and also the senior leadership team um

58:08 ↗ and we'll be back here either in on July

58:11 ↗ 17th or um at our September

58:15 ↗ meeting awesome and Dale you're up next

58:19 ↗ for any other business yes we do have

58:21 ↗ some other

58:24 ↗ business I don't have a power point for

58:27 ↗ this next little bit of other business

58:29 ↗ but

58:30 ↗ um I think I wonder if it would be

58:33 ↗ helpful to First do a just general

58:35 ↗ update from April I don't know Rey you

58:37 ↗ had proposed a little April update for

58:39 ↗ folks that W able to be here gave a

58:41 ↗ brief one with the sort of the finance

58:44 ↗ team came but I I maybe want to open it

58:46 ↗ up for questions first two questions so

58:50 ↗ one from the budget process is that so

58:53 ↗ we're engaged when any kind of commit

58:56 ↗ with in the city is going through their

58:59 ↗ budget and they they want some sort of

59:00 ↗ equity lens on it and the reason that I

59:02 ↗ ask this because I'm involved in one one

59:04 ↗ committee which is the Human Services

59:05 ↗ committee that you're aware of and I'm

59:07 ↗ involved with Hannah and Monica on you

59:10 ↗ know I've been listening to their

59:11 ↗ discussions and we're going to come to a

59:14 ↗ point where so what's the budget for

59:18 ↗ this work so is that the kind of input

59:20 ↗ that they want from somebody from the

59:21 ↗ equity board to to sit in on so no this

59:24 ↗ was more about um us providing our

59:28 ↗ finance team specifically with some

59:30 ↗ guidance on how to guide um city council

59:33 ↗ so the ultimate deciders of our budget

59:36 ↗ um are legislators and so they'll have a

59:39 ↗ they're they're already starting to have

59:41 ↗ a few engagements around the budget

59:42 ↗ there was a a committee the whole

59:44 ↗ meeting this past Monday just around

59:48 ↗ General Financial Outlook um but

59:51 ↗ starting in July uh traditionally that

59:54 ↗ the city council has three retreat

59:56 ↗ treats every year one in the the late

59:58 ↗ winter um so end usually end of January

1:00:01 ↗ early February one in the middle of the

1:00:04 ↗ summer and then one in the sort of early

1:00:06 ↗ fall and the one thank Juliana and the

1:00:10 ↗ um middle of the summer Retreat is the

1:00:12 ↗ retreat where they they start to chart

1:00:15 ↗ their budget priorities um so for the

1:00:18 ↗ upcoming biannual budget so they'll

1:00:20 ↗ start to say you know looking at what

1:00:22 ↗ we're you know what we may want to see

1:00:25 ↗ over the the next couple of years here's

1:00:27 ↗ how we think here are some priorities

1:00:29 ↗ that we have so that might be and

1:00:31 ↗ they're usually pretty broad they're

1:00:32 ↗ usually like

1:00:36 ↗ roads that's an example sometimes of the

1:00:38 ↗ priority it's like roads permitting um

1:00:43 ↗ they use the data usually from our

1:00:44 ↗ community survey and then also the input

1:00:48 ↗ and feedback they've been getting as

1:00:49 ↗ well as the Strategic plan to make some

1:00:51 ↗ of those priorities um and so they came

1:00:53 ↗ specifically to say hey we want to we

1:00:55 ↗ want to make sure city council is able

1:00:58 ↗ to start thinking about the budget

1:00:59 ↗ through the lens of equity what advice

1:01:01 ↗ and input does this group have and I

1:01:03 ↗ have a perfect example but I that I want

1:01:05 ↗ to resurface with this group but i' I'd

1:01:07 ↗ like to wait till I have that meeting

1:01:08 ↗ with Monica and Hannah on it but to give

1:01:10 ↗ you a preview what that's about you know

1:01:12 ↗ I sit on this they invited me to join

1:01:14 ↗ that Human Services committee team and

1:01:17 ↗ um I was educated that they have license

1:01:20 ↗ Cas social workers that that that

1:01:22 ↗ monitor the streets of isqua so I'm

1:01:25 ↗ getting them and there's there's new

1:01:27 ↗ regulations coming from the government

1:01:28 ↗ that supports Equity initiatives so if

1:01:30 ↗ these licens case social workers have an

1:01:33 ↗ equity focus and that grows is there a

1:01:36 ↗ potential to add to that team mean

1:01:38 ↗ meaning there there's going to be an

1:01:40 ↗ increase in headcount the budget might

1:01:41 ↗ increase so this work around Equity is

1:01:44 ↗ trickling down into these different

1:01:46 ↗ teams that might need additional support

1:01:48 ↗ going into 2025 so more to come on that

1:01:52 ↗ amazing

1:01:56 ↗ that any other April April meeting

1:01:58 ↗ questions from anyone else before next

1:02:00 ↗ other business

1:02:04 ↗ item I'm sorry the the other business

1:02:08 ↗ the board discussion on community

1:02:09 ↗ engagement

1:02:11 ↗ so I mean give me a preview with that

1:02:14 ↗ I'm so sorry to miss it I was next door

1:02:15 ↗ at a garage event but is is this an ask

1:02:18 ↗ for us to be more engaged in the

1:02:19 ↗ community to be listening more and to be

1:02:22 ↗ involved what was the takeaway from this

1:02:24 ↗ paragraph that I'm reading here

1:02:28 ↗ so I can I can try to add in because I

1:02:30 ↗ kind of forgot about it um so we were we

1:02:34 ↗ had a little bit of a b of time to talk

1:02:36 ↗ Community engagement because I haven't

1:02:37 ↗ convened the subcommittee and

1:02:40 ↗ so

1:02:42 ↗ what it it sounds like it it's moving in

1:02:45 ↗ a direction that will be tied a little

1:02:48 ↗ bit more to what Trisha and finance team

1:02:50 ↗ are proposing around a community I don't

1:02:54 ↗ know if they call that a community needs

1:02:55 ↗ this assessment but I getting uh

1:02:59 ↗ bringing in someone to do kind of a data

1:03:02 ↗ landscape of like population community

1:03:05 ↗ indicators and it seems like that will

1:03:09 ↗ help set the stage for Community

1:03:12 ↗ engagement so people can actually like

1:03:15 ↗ because what is equity those kinds of

1:03:17 ↗ conversation at a high level are hard to

1:03:19 ↗ grow for people to ground into without

1:03:21 ↗ like data to actually understand Equity

1:03:24 ↗ at different policy levels and so it

1:03:26 ↗ seems like it would be a complimentary

1:03:28 ↗ approach for us to do some sort of

1:03:30 ↗ community

1:03:31 ↗ engagement once that type of data are

1:03:35 ↗ collected and reported out on and then

1:03:38 ↗ so we were talking about okay so with

1:03:40 ↗ that kind of in mind as kind of where we

1:03:44 ↗ want to go what is the right kind of

1:03:46 ↗ community engagement to tee up sharing

1:03:50 ↗ that data and having more meaningful

1:03:52 ↗ Community discussions around Equity but

1:03:54 ↗ that's that to be said

1:03:56 ↗ the conversations we would be having

1:03:58 ↗ about Community engagement would be like

1:04:00 ↗ more of the the approach and the

1:04:02 ↗ methodology for someone else to do work

1:04:04 ↗ people who are specialists in community

1:04:06 ↗ engagement to do the work so we would be

1:04:09 ↗ um like Equity board Representatives

1:04:13 ↗ perhaps you know going to these

1:04:14 ↗ Community engagement events but letting

1:04:16 ↗ people who are really good at Community

1:04:19 ↗ engagement good at uh

1:04:22 ↗ uh building trust and rapport with

1:04:25 ↗ people so they can actually speak you

1:04:27 ↗ know like yeah elicit kind of meaningful

1:04:32 ↗ information right and have hopefully a

1:04:34 ↗ two-way dialogue and maybe a feedback

1:04:37 ↗ loop and doing all of that stuff

1:04:39 ↗ properly so we would help design with

1:04:41 ↗ that

1:04:44 ↗ approaches I'm a little confused because

1:04:46 ↗ I'm sensitive about this because I

1:04:47 ↗ thought that was our role in as as

1:04:49 ↗ Equity board members is we are to

1:04:52 ↗ understand what's going on in the

1:04:53 ↗ community from an equity lens and

1:04:56 ↗ perhaps share it with our team here to

1:04:57 ↗ see ask each other questions and I'll

1:05:00 ↗ give the garage an example that's why I

1:05:01 ↗ was in that room is you know gay pride

1:05:04 ↗ is next month and we want to understand

1:05:06 ↗ hey you know how what can we bring back

1:05:09 ↗ from the events that you're doing as a

1:05:11 ↗ community organizer for special event

1:05:14 ↗ and how can we as an equity board member

1:05:16 ↗ be integrated into the work that you're

1:05:17 ↗ doing so we can help you so but now

1:05:21 ↗ we're we're looking towards other

1:05:23 ↗ experts that are going to be doing this

1:05:25 ↗ on our behalf what is well I think our I

1:05:28 ↗ maybe we should talk more about this for

1:05:30 ↗ sure but I would say in my mind our role

1:05:34 ↗ is to be there and listen and learn and

1:05:37 ↗ bring that back but we're not

1:05:39 ↗ necessarily the doers of the engagement

1:05:42 ↗ but we we can and should be present you

1:05:44 ↗ know at community events and activities

1:05:48 ↗ maybe be attending listening sessions

1:05:50 ↗ that are organized by the city to gain

1:05:53 ↗ specific or to ask specific question

1:05:55 ↗ questions but we're not going out there

1:05:57 ↗ and saying hey we're going to organize a

1:05:59 ↗ meeting come and tell us and I think for

1:06:02 ↗ me that is an important thing that the

1:06:05 ↗ city will be doing the organizing and

1:06:07 ↗ the people who are in charge of making

1:06:09 ↗ changes are going to be there and

1:06:12 ↗ organizing it and we are just coming

1:06:15 ↗ sideways to listen to the people

1:06:18 ↗ answering so then we can be the voice

1:06:23 ↗ the reminder again like this is what was

1:06:26 ↗ said and are we addressing that but the

1:06:30 ↗ most important people who need to be at

1:06:32 ↗ the table are the people who are going

1:06:33 ↗ to be actively able to make the change

1:06:36 ↗ because sometimes it's pointless to just

1:06:39 ↗ hear people's story and not really be

1:06:42 ↗ able to do anything yet because we as a

1:06:45 ↗ board have no power okay our power is in

1:06:48 ↗ the fact that we can advice and so we

1:06:51 ↗ are coming we're co-conspirators ories

1:06:54 ↗ to the people who are speaking yes and

1:06:57 ↗ the way we do that is by showing up at

1:06:59 ↗ the Pres when their voic is

1:07:01 ↗ being spoken and and we're going to

1:07:04 ↗ later than amplify the

1:07:08 ↗ okay that's a great question right yeah

1:07:11 ↗ I think the work that remember the

1:07:12 ↗ meeting that you and I are in the

1:07:14 ↗ nourishing Network meeting where I'm

1:07:16 ↗ supposed to present in a couple M where

1:07:18 ↗ I have a topic that I want to bring

1:07:19 ↗ forward to them the goal there is not

1:07:21 ↗ for me to Champion that it's to educate

1:07:23 ↗ the team on this work but

1:07:26 ↗ how how we how we facilitate those types

1:07:28 ↗ of discussions using those resources

1:07:30 ↗ like those license Cas social workers to

1:07:33 ↗ to have an equity focus on the work that

1:07:35 ↗ they do is going to require some time

1:07:38 ↗ but I don't know when we cut the tie

1:07:39 ↗ like you know we we advise you as an

1:07:41 ↗ equity board member now it's up to you

1:07:43 ↗ guys to facilitate it that's that's hazy

1:07:45 ↗ to

1:07:48 ↗ me then we always come back and that's

1:07:50 ↗ why it's important that we set times on

1:07:53 ↗ the agenda to say hey we like to come

1:07:56 ↗ back and revisit and continue talking

1:07:58 ↗ because part of the engagement work

1:08:00 ↗ authentic engagement requires that we

1:08:02 ↗ always have a feedback loop and so just

1:08:06 ↗ reminding the process that that is how

1:08:09 ↗ true Equity work works right that you're

1:08:12 ↗ having that ongoing

1:08:19 ↗ dialogue great um Dale I know we're

1:08:22 ↗ getting ready to kind of wrap up but can

1:08:25 ↗ you mind folks about the the H Social

1:08:29 ↗ Hour and what can and cannot be disced

1:08:32 ↗ yes I will do that right after I talk

1:08:34 ↗ about this one other other business item

1:08:37 ↗ so I referred to this at the top of the

1:08:39 ↗ meeting um next month we will vote um on

1:08:43 ↗ chair and vice chair for the upcoming

1:08:46 ↗ next you know 12 months um this will be

1:08:50 ↗ an open I went and watched your last

1:08:51 ↗ nomination process earlier today because

1:08:53 ↗ I was like I'm not sure I know exactly

1:08:55 ↗ how we're supposed to do this um and

1:08:56 ↗ then I also got some very helpful tips

1:08:58 ↗ from TI Tisha gizer clerk extraordinaire

1:09:01 ↗ um we'll have an open nomination process

1:09:03 ↗ so at the at the tail end of our meeting

1:09:05 ↗ next month in June uh you can nominate

1:09:08 ↗ yourself you can nominate someone else

1:09:11 ↗ um alternates are not eligible to be

1:09:14 ↗ nominated to serve as a chair or vice

1:09:15 ↗ chair so Canal shaie um and Kelly are

1:09:19 ↗ not eligible to be nominated but

1:09:21 ↗ everyone else is um and so you can ask

1:09:26 ↗ um you know you can say I'd like to

1:09:28 ↗ nominate myself you can say I'd like to

1:09:30 ↗ nominate um shaie you could however and

1:09:33 ↗ we'll do a round that is um for chair

1:09:36 ↗ and then we'll do another round um for

1:09:38 ↗ vice chair folks that have been in the

1:09:40 ↗ seat or are currently in the seat are

1:09:41 ↗ eligible to be in that seat again um

1:09:44 ↗ there is no issue with that and then I

1:09:47 ↗ think it would be helpful just to tell

1:09:48 ↗ you a little about like the basic ask of

1:09:50 ↗ what it means to be a board chair or

1:09:51 ↗ board Vice chair and then pry can

1:09:53 ↗ correct me if she feels like this is not

1:09:54 ↗ a correct

1:09:55 ↗ summation of responsibilities so first

1:09:59 ↗ and foremost um one of the asks is that

1:10:01 ↗ you review the draft agenda before it's

1:10:04 ↗ published to the full board so I meet

1:10:06 ↗ with the chair and vice chair usually

1:10:08 ↗ about early in the week before either

1:10:10 ↗ the week before or early in the week

1:10:12 ↗ before it's published to the full board

1:10:14 ↗ um and that's to get you know final

1:10:16 ↗ input to make sure that we've got

1:10:18 ↗ everything on the agenda we need to have

1:10:19 ↗ on the agenda but that's a 30 minute

1:10:21 ↗ call at some point in the few days ahead

1:10:24 ↗ of the agenda being published lished um

1:10:27 ↗ that's that's a once a month 30 minute

1:10:28 ↗ meeting um and then I would say the ask

1:10:31 ↗ is also generally to be available for

1:10:33 ↗ one longer one to two longer meetings

1:10:35 ↗ per year um usually those meetings are

1:10:38 ↗ about an hour I would say we probably

1:10:40 ↗ had had two hourong meetings other than

1:10:42 ↗ our 30 minute meetings so just look at

1:10:45 ↗ the work plan as a whole review General

1:10:47 ↗ progress on the work plan which we

1:10:49 ↗ haven't had that meeting yet but we will

1:10:50 ↗ in after June to say like okay this is

1:10:53 ↗ what we said we were going to do this

1:10:54 ↗ year how doing on it um and then

1:10:57 ↗ facilitating the meet the meeting as

1:10:59 ↗ Frey does throughout our meeting so

1:11:01 ↗ calling the meeting to order generally

1:11:04 ↗ um going through the the Robert's Rule

1:11:07 ↗ script and keeping us on track um being

1:11:11 ↗ mindful of time making sure that

1:11:13 ↗ everyone gets a chance to speak they

1:11:14 ↗ wants to get a chance to speak um

1:11:17 ↗ keeping decorum in our interactions um

1:11:21 ↗ and a joury meeting at the end of the

1:11:23 ↗ meeting um would you add anything else

1:11:25 ↗ to responsibilities that I've I've

1:11:28 ↗ neglected yeah that thumbs it up yeah so

1:11:31 ↗ it's um a great opportunity also I think

1:11:34 ↗ to like get a little bit more familiar

1:11:36 ↗ with sort of facilitating a more formal

1:11:38 ↗ meeting like this uh it's pretty rare I

1:11:41 ↗ would say in my own career I you know to

1:11:44 ↗ I have never had the opportunity to

1:11:46 ↗ chare a me a formal uh public meeting um

1:11:50 ↗ and so it can be a great opportunity to

1:11:51 ↗ get to do some of that if you want some

1:11:53 ↗ experience doing that I'll add something

1:11:56 ↗ when we first started as an equity

1:11:59 ↗ committee no one had done it before yeah

1:12:01 ↗ and so it was all new people so I'm I'm

1:12:03 ↗ encouraging new people to if you want to

1:12:05 ↗ try this this is the place to try it

1:12:06 ↗ because we are as easy CO as you can get

1:12:08 ↗ that is true that is true and you'll

1:12:10 ↗ have now control over what question we

1:12:12 ↗ ask at the topic of every meeting so

1:12:15 ↗ watch out don't get wild the power on

1:12:17 ↗ that

1:12:19 ↗ one um but so we'll we'll do that at the

1:12:22 ↗ end in the last portion of our meeting

1:12:24 ↗ in June so I would and I know we've got

1:12:26 ↗ some Equity board members who are

1:12:27 ↗ missing tonight so Shay and Tony and

1:12:29 ↗ Christina and Cari um who are all

1:12:32 ↗ eligible um for being nominated and so I

1:12:34 ↗ would just ask you to think about that

1:12:37 ↗ between now and our next meeting um and

1:12:39 ↗ we will look forward to doing that

1:12:43 ↗ then awesome I think

1:12:46 ↗ that okay um we do have closing thought

1:12:51 ↗ on the agenda I do know we're 15 minutes

1:12:54 ↗ late so would propose us skip the

1:12:56 ↗ closing thought have more free and fun

1:13:00 ↗ conversations at Cafe so I will then

1:13:03 ↗ give a very brief reminder of what is

1:13:05 ↗ allowed and not allowed in our social

1:13:08 ↗ conversation we're going to ader shortly

1:13:10 ↗ and reconvene um the purpose of that is

1:13:12 ↗ to welcome our new board members to but

1:13:15 ↗ also to provide some time for social

1:13:17 ↗ interaction um outside of just sitting

1:13:20 ↗ around this table and being in the deep

1:13:22 ↗ and meaningful discussion that we're in

1:13:23 ↗ once per month you cannot talk about

1:13:26 ↗ board business during this time um that

1:13:29 ↗ is one of the rules of being assembled

1:13:31 ↗ as a as meeting or exceeding Forum um is

1:13:35 ↗ that we cannot talk about board business

1:13:37 ↗ I can talk all about my trip to Scotland

1:13:39 ↗ and I'd be more than happy to um but no

1:13:42 ↗ board business uh no City business you

1:13:44 ↗ can talk all you want about school about

1:13:47 ↗ anything else um but that is the one

1:13:50 ↗ thing and I my main job that I told

1:13:53 ↗ clerk Geer I would do was make sure that

1:13:54 ↗ we would not break that um over the

1:13:57 ↗ course of the next uh 45 minutes or so

1:13:59 ↗ so right any party comments before we

1:14:04 ↗ enter all right well it is 7:16 and I ad

1:14:08 ↗ adjourn the May meeting of the equity

1:14:10 ↗ board and our next meeting is June 5

1:14:14 ↗ thank you all I would hope to see you

1:14:15 ↗ next

1:14:18 ↗ door and we

1:14:20 ↗ going okay

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