Development Commission · Wednesday, December 6, 2023 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of May 31, 2023

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 05-31-23 Development Commission Minutes Page [0000] CITY OF ISSAQUAH Development Commission 6:00 PM Pickering Barn, 1730 10th Ave NW, May 31, 2023 MINUTES Issaquah, WA

Minutes of Feb. 15, 2023

packet pp.7–11

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Staff report:

MINUTES DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION 6:30 p.m. Wednesday, February 15, 2023

3. PUBLIC COMMENT

Recommendation on Site Development Permit Application for Milano Apartments, (A)

90 min · Emily Adams, Associate Planner Hossein Khorram, Owner/Applicant Application No: PRJ20-00008, SDP20- Address: 2300 Newport Way NW Parcel No: 2024069057 Public Hearing Order: Meeting Materials: · packet pp.13–1514

Topics: Land Use

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Staff report:

Development Commission Public Hearing Milano Issaquah Apartment

5. REGULAR BUSINESS

Adopt Rules & Regulations

Action · 30 min · Christian Geitz, Planning Manager The Development Commission meeting Rules and Regulations are available for · packet pp.1515–1526

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Staff report:

Community Planning & Development 130 E Sunset Way | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 issaquahwa.gov

Elect Chair & Vice Chair

Action · 10 min · Richard Sanford, Chair

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6. REPORTS

City Council Update

Christian Geitz, Planning Manager

7. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

Upcoming Schedule

packet pp.1527–1528

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Staff report:

JANUARY JULY 1/4/2023 cancelled 7/6/2023 cancelled

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0:07 ↗ good evening and welcome I'd like to

0:09 ↗ call the December 6th meeting of the

0:11 ↗ city of isua development commission to

0:13 ↗ order at 6:30 p.m. as a reminder we have

0:17 ↗ a remote aspect to our meetings this

0:19 ↗ means both staff and members of the

0:21 ↗ public may be participating in the

0:23 ↗ meeting remotely via WebEx for those

0:26 ↗ attending remotely if you have questions

0:28 ↗ or issues please send the host post a

0:30 ↗ chat message or email staff at Christian

0:33 ↗ gsa.gov there are no excused absences

0:37 ↗ for this meeting all the regular

0:39 ↗ Commissioners members are present I'd

0:42 ↗ like to acknowledge our new alternate

0:44 ↗ members of the commission Olaf fun and

0:47 ↗ Jeff Mayo I understand that Ola is

0:50 ↗ online is that

0:53 ↗ right that is

0:58 ↗ incorrect we have no our alternates are

1:00 ↗ not online they are not all right

1:03 ↗ thanks well our first item of business

1:05 ↗ tonight is to take action on meeting

1:07 ↗ minutes for February 15 and may the 30th

1:10 ↗ hope everybody's had an opportunity to

1:12 ↗ look them

1:13 ↗ over if anyone can remember February are

1:15 ↗ there any corrections to the February

1:17 ↗ 15th or May 31st minutes in the

1:20 ↗ packet hearing none the minutes are

1:23 ↗ approved as

1:24 ↗ submitted we'll move on to General

1:26 ↗ comments now next I'd like to open the

1:28 ↗ floor for any m members of the public in

1:31 ↗ person or virtually who' like to make a

1:33 ↗ general comment not about the Milano

1:36 ↗ project but on General topics there will

1:38 ↗ be an opportunity later in the meeting

1:40 ↗ for those who'd like to comment on about

1:42 ↗ the main uh project on our agenda

1:45 ↗ tonight uh Mr Aldrich has anyone signed

1:48 ↗ up to make General comments no one has

1:50 ↗ signed up for General comments at this

1:52 ↗ time okay thank you we we will move

1:56 ↗ right ahead with our main agenda item

1:58 ↗ then which is predecision open record

2:00 ↗ public hearing the order of operation

2:03 ↗ for this hearing will be as follows

2:05 ↗ first the purpose of the hearing

2:07 ↗ followed by our appearance of fairness

2:09 ↗ disclosures then we'll open the hearing

2:12 ↗ with a staff presentation followed by an

2:15 ↗ applicant presentation then the floor

2:17 ↗ will be open for public comment there'll

2:20 ↗ be an opportunity for rebuttal by the

2:22 ↗ applicant and then by staff and then

2:24 ↗ we'll close the public hearing

2:27 ↗ commission deliberation will then be

2:29 ↗ followed by commission action including

2:32 ↗ motions amendments and vote then that

2:35 ↗ will conclude the agenda item on the qu

2:37 ↗ judicial permit tonight if for any

2:40 ↗ reason the hearing can't be completed

2:42 ↗ this evening the hearing will be

2:44 ↗ continued to a specifi date in the

2:47 ↗ future first the purpose of the hearing

2:50 ↗ this is the formal public hearing for

2:52 ↗ the Milano isqua apartment development

2:55 ↗ The Proposal being considered as a site

2:57 ↗ development permit application for a 6

2:59 ↗ 65 unit apartment building located at

3:02 ↗ 2300 Newport Way Northwest purpose of

3:06 ↗ this hearing is to solicit relevant

3:08 ↗ public comment and facilitate the review

3:10 ↗ discussion and decision on the

3:12 ↗ application by the development

3:14 ↗ commission this is a quasi judicial

3:17 ↗ hearing and so Mr gats please proceed

3:20 ↗ with our appearance of fairness

3:28 ↗ disclosure

3:30 ↗ Thank You Cher Sanford uh really quickly

3:33 ↗ we want to go through these general

3:34 ↗ questions uh for this quasi judicial

3:37 ↗ open record

3:38 ↗ decision um the questions I'll I'll run

3:41 ↗ through are to ensure that the

3:43 ↗ proceedings are fair in fact and

3:45 ↗ appearance uh expar contacts are

3:48 ↗ prohibited which would be communication

3:50 ↗ outside the hearing between a decision

3:52 ↗ maker and an opponent or proponent of

3:55 ↗ the matter at hand if such

3:56 ↗ Communications have occurred uh

4:00 ↗ record of the substance of the

4:01 ↗ communication must be placed in the

4:03 ↗ record um the test which I'll go through

4:05 ↗ here in a moment with the questions um

4:08 ↗ would a disinterested person having been

4:11 ↗ appraised of the totality of a decision

4:12 ↗ Maker's personal interest in a matter

4:14 ↗ being acted upon be reasonably justified

4:17 ↗ in thinking that part thinking that

4:19 ↗ partially may exist um decision makers

4:22 ↗ who have a personal interest prejudgment

4:24 ↗ of issues or partiality are disqualified

4:28 ↗ from proceedings so part one the

4:31 ↗ questions for the Commissioners with

4:33 ↗ regard to the outcome and I I'll read

4:35 ↗ through these in um pause for any

4:39 ↗ responses with regard to the outcome of

4:41 ↗ the proceeding do you have any personal

4:43 ↗ interest Financial or otherwise in the

4:48 ↗ outcome here does your employer have an

4:51 ↗ interest Financial or otherwise in the

4:53 ↗ outcome

4:55 ↗ no do you have any familial social or

4:58 ↗ business relationships or connections

5:00 ↗ with any of the parties or non-parties

5:03 ↗ who have an interest in the outcome

5:06 ↗ no you have any special knowledge about

5:08 ↗ the substantive or the merits of these

5:12 ↗ proceedings which would which would or

5:15 ↗ could cause you Prejudice of the outcome

5:20 ↗ no right and will there be any

5:22 ↗ prospective employment for you or your

5:24 ↗ family as a result of the

5:26 ↗ decision

5:28 ↗ no do you own or control property within

5:31 ↗ 300 ft of the subject property

5:34 ↗ no and have you had any expart

5:37 ↗ Communications regarding this project if

5:39 ↗ so with whom and what was the

5:42 ↗ substance

5:46 ↗ no all right and then overall do you

5:49 ↗ believe you can sit and hear this matter

5:51 ↗ fairly and impartially both as as to the

5:54 ↗ respective positions of the proponents

5:56 ↗ and the opponents of this

5:58 ↗ matter yes

6:00 ↗ all right and questions for the audience

6:03 ↗ does anyone in the audience and you can

6:05 ↗ show by uh raised hand does anyone in

6:07 ↗ the audience wish to challenge the the

6:09 ↗ participation of any commissioner based

6:11 ↗ on appearance of fairness of the

6:13 ↗ appearance of fairness

6:18 ↗ Doctrine

6:21 ↗ okay thank

6:23 ↗ you okay thank

6:25 ↗ you now we'll open the public hearing at

6:28 ↗ 6:30 6

6:31 ↗ p.m. first we'll proceed with staff's

6:34 ↗ presentation U Miss Adams I'll need to

6:37 ↗ swear you in please state your name and

6:40 ↗ position with the city with the

6:45 ↗ record you swear by oath or affirmation

6:48 ↗ the testimony you're about to provide is

6:52 ↗ true sorry I

6:54 ↗ do thank you please

6:57 ↗ proceed good evening Commissioners uh I

7:01 ↗ am the project Planner on this Emily

7:02 ↗ Adams um Valerie Porter was the other

7:05 ↗ project Planner on this and she is

7:07 ↗ online so we are here tonight to talk to

7:09 ↗ you about the Milano isqua Apartments

7:12 ↗ which is a site development permit with

7:13 ↗ an Associated administrative adjustment

7:16 ↗ of

7:18 ↗ Standards so the uh site is located in

7:21 ↗ central isqua off of Newport way it's

7:24 ↗ zoned Village Residential with a

7:26 ↗ comprehensive plan designation of multif

7:29 ↗ family

7:29 ↗ residential outlined in the blue there

7:32 ↗ on the

7:33 ↗ map so the proposal um is for on a

7:37 ↗ parcel that is about 1.34 acres in size

7:40 ↗ and a summary of what's being proposed

7:42 ↗ is an apartment building that totals

7:44 ↗ 71,3 135 Square ft it has 65 units and

7:49 ↗ six levels um that's four levels of

7:51 ↗ residential and two levels of park there

7:55 ↗ are 53 parking stalls proposed uh as far

7:58 ↗ as circulation on site there is a new

8:01 ↗ internal Road proposed you can see that

8:03 ↗ north of the building Road a as well as

8:06 ↗ a through block passage that kind of

8:08 ↗ meanders along the east south side of

8:12 ↗ the building um connecting Newport way

8:15 ↗ to that new road a uh Frontage

8:18 ↗ improvements are also required um and

8:21 ↗ are proposed as part of this project uh

8:24 ↗ the next couple slides will go through

8:27 ↗ how the project meets our standard

8:29 ↗ um for the Central isqua Development and

8:32 ↗ design standards which are the ruling

8:34 ↗ regulations for this site as it's in

8:36 ↗ central

8:39 ↗ isqua so um first off is density bonus

8:43 ↗ uh this is chapter five in SIDS um the

8:46 ↗ project is proposing to exceed the base

8:49 ↗ floor area ratio and the base height so

8:52 ↗ in order to exceed those base levels

8:55 ↗ that are prescribed and go all the way

8:56 ↗ up to what the maximum levels are the

8:58 ↗ density bonus program has to be used um

9:01 ↗ it's required in order to do this and to

9:04 ↗ meet the density program um it's through

9:06 ↗ a variety of methods including on-site

9:08 ↗ affordable housing units or public open

9:11 ↗ space and or a density bonus fee um in

9:15 ↗ this case we are looking at affordable

9:16 ↗ units on site there are three affordable

9:20 ↗ units required one at 80% area median

9:23 ↗ income and two at 50% Ami four units are

9:28 ↗ proposed three at 80% Ami and one at 50%

9:32 ↗ Ami so um as you can see uh it's not

9:36 ↗ exactly what's required so a condition

9:38 ↗ is proposed for the project to revise um

9:42 ↗ the affordable unit Ami provided so that

9:45 ↗ two are at

9:46 ↗ 50% um at least two at 50% uh as well as

9:50 ↗ to pay the density bonus payment prior

9:52 ↗ to the building permit

9:57 ↗ issuance moving on to transportation

9:59 ↗ um so the Newport Way Frontage

10:02 ↗ improvements have been designed to meet

10:04 ↗ the capital Improvement project adopted

10:06 ↗ by the city that specific project is

10:08 ↗ referenced in the staff report um half

10:11 ↗ Street improvements are required that

10:13 ↗ lower snippet is the section of Newport

10:15 ↗ Way Frontage improvements um it's also

10:18 ↗ the image is also in the staff report if

10:20 ↗ it's a little tiny on your screen um

10:23 ↗ Road a is the one that I referenced on

10:25 ↗ the summary it's north of the building

10:28 ↗ it's a new private roadway and that is

10:30 ↗ where the site will be accessed off of

10:32 ↗ Newport Way so there will not be direct

10:35 ↗ access to the garage off of Newport way

10:37 ↗ to come onto Road a and then into the

10:39 ↗ parking

10:40 ↗ garage um the proposed improvements do

10:43 ↗ meet SIDS as conditioned um and the road

10:47 ↗ a has 5ft sidewalks 5ft landscape strips

10:51 ↗ and 11ft travel

10:52 ↗ Lanes the primary through block passage

10:55 ↗ as I say said before connects Newport

10:57 ↗ Way along this side of the building up

10:59 ↗ into Road a it's a 10-ft wide path and

11:03 ↗ has a 5ft wide landscape bed on the west

11:05 ↗ side which is on the building side their

11:08 ↗ um critical area is used as the

11:10 ↗ landscape buffer on the other

11:13 ↗ side so as far as conditions relating to

11:16 ↗ Transportation this was actually a sea

11:18 ↗ condition which is then wrapped into the

11:20 ↗ sdp conditions which is a raised

11:23 ↗ intersection being built um Northbound

11:26 ↗ and Southbound Southbound left turn

11:28 ↗ Lanes on Newport

11:29 ↗ and a rectangular rapid flashing Beacon

11:32 ↗ across the site

11:36 ↗ driveway community space is required as

11:39 ↗ part of this proposal um

11:42 ↗ 3520 ft are required that included

11:45 ↗ private space which could be um done as

11:48 ↗ private or common private space as well

11:50 ↗ as one on-site amenity that's at least

11:52 ↗ 400 sare ft The Proposal is exceeding

11:55 ↗ what is required they're proposing 3,9

11:58 ↗ 64 ft and that's split across three

12:01 ↗ different um amenities so there's the

12:04 ↗ rooftop amenity the indoor amenity space

12:08 ↗ and then a ground floor Terrace being

12:13 ↗ proposed moving on to parking um so

12:17 ↗ there's 47 required spaces for this use

12:19 ↗ and 53 is proposed which is exceeding

12:22 ↗ what is required um a breakdown of those

12:25 ↗ spaces uh is within that section of the

12:27 ↗ staff report as well well as the fact

12:29 ↗ that this um project was required to

12:31 ↗ have electric vehicle or EV spaces and

12:34 ↗ they are meeting those

12:36 ↗ requirements bicycle spaces were also

12:38 ↗ required at 10 spaces and 28 are

12:41 ↗ proposed and they are provided

12:42 ↗ internally um within the parking

12:44 ↗ garage the majority of the parking is in

12:47 ↗ structure uh it encompasses the

12:50 ↗ bottom the bottom two floors below the

12:52 ↗ residential floors um there are four

12:56 ↗ surface spots located off of um

12:59 ↗ off of Road a my mouse over here in this

13:04 ↗ area um there's four spaces back there

13:07 ↗ um so viewing the parking it's a little

13:10 ↗ unique on this site it is a sloped site

13:12 ↗ so at Newport way if you're standing on

13:14 ↗ Newport Way in front of the building

13:15 ↗ facing the building you wouldn't see any

13:16 ↗ of the parking it's below grade but um

13:19 ↗ if you're coming at it from an angle or

13:21 ↗ from behind you would see the parking

13:23 ↗ and that's what these elevations are

13:25 ↗ showing is the different angles that

13:27 ↗ kind of reveals the structured parking

13:29 ↗ within the

13:34 ↗ building so uh landscaping and trees so

13:37 ↗ 27 trees are required for the site and

13:39 ↗ they are proposing 46 um all trees

13:42 ↗ within the critical area will be

13:43 ↗ retained as is required um within the

13:46 ↗ critical area and its buffers uh for

13:49 ↗ tree retention all four of the trees

13:51 ↗ within the developable area are proposed

13:53 ↗ to be removed um this is in line with

13:56 ↗ the tree modification the tree retention

13:59 ↗ modification allowed per SIDS um

14:02 ↗ criteria have to be met to allow the

14:04 ↗ retention to be decreased um and those

14:07 ↗ criteria staff is saying were met uh you

14:10 ↗ can see those outlined in the staff

14:12 ↗ report within this section um won't go

14:14 ↗ through them now it's it's a lot of it's

14:16 ↗ a lot of reading um parking structure

14:19 ↗ screening uh the parking structure is

14:21 ↗ screened through a variety of means um

14:23 ↗ including landscape architectural

14:25 ↗ elements and the green wall um which you

14:28 ↗ can see in the image in the bottom there

14:30 ↗ no Landscaping is proposed directly

14:32 ↗ adjacent to critical areas um and site

14:35 ↗ amenities are integrated with the

14:37 ↗ Landscaping site amenities being like

14:39 ↗ benches water fountains dog dog water

14:42 ↗ fountains that sort of

14:46 ↗ thing so as I said um part of this

14:49 ↗ approval is for uh administrative

14:51 ↗ adjustment of Standards our um standards

14:54 ↗ allow for permits to be reviewed

14:56 ↗ concurrently so this permit was rolled

14:58 ↗ up into the sdp approval um this is an

15:02 ↗ administrative adjustment standards or

15:04 ↗ an AAS to um SIDS 10 10.13 which is to

15:09 ↗ allow the soil grade around two trees

15:12 ↗ tree four and 10 which are the ones

15:14 ↗ circled on on the screen um to be

15:16 ↗ altered within the critical root Zone

15:19 ↗ there are approval criteria um within

15:21 ↗ the tree section of Sids that have to be

15:23 ↗ met in order for this to be allowed um

15:26 ↗ staff recommends approval that they do

15:28 ↗ meet these criteria with a condition

15:31 ↗ that uh requires a qualified

15:33 ↗ professional arst to be on site to

15:35 ↗ monitor construction activities proposed

15:37 ↗ within 5 ft of the critical root zone of

15:42 ↗ trees for lighting um 15t light poles

15:46 ↗ are proposed along Road a there are W

15:50 ↗ mounted exterior LED lights located

15:52 ↗ around the entire building ground Mount

15:55 ↗ Lighting on both sides of the through

15:56 ↗ block passage and Ballard and recess

15:59 ↗ ground mounted lights are indicated

16:00 ↗ along pedestrian routes the final style

16:04 ↗ fixture and location of lighting will be

16:05 ↗ determined with construction permits

16:07 ↗ which is the

16:10 ↗ norm uh looking at the architectural and

16:12 ↗ Urban Design um the project is located

16:16 ↗ in what is called traditional isqua so

16:19 ↗ when you first locate your project and

16:21 ↗ then there's certain architectural

16:22 ↗ Styles you can choose from so for this

16:25 ↗ one the architectural style selected is

16:27 ↗ Northwest Revival

16:29 ↗ so the common characteristics of this

16:30 ↗ are a tripart expression of materials in

16:33 ↗ Mass which you can see with dark gray

16:36 ↗ and then the brick and then the light

16:37 ↗ gray kind of does the splits it up into

16:39 ↗ three uh typically four stories are more

16:42 ↗ in height um this is four stories

16:44 ↗ residential into a parking so six

16:45 ↗ stories flat roofs an articulated base

16:49 ↗ and roof line um and comprised of

16:51 ↗ masonary clading materials as well as

16:53 ↗ deeply punched Window and Door

16:57 ↗ openings

17:00 ↗ so this site is encumbered with critical

17:01 ↗ areas um there are two on site the first

17:04 ↗ is a wetland um called Wetland B in the

17:07 ↗ critical area report the Category 3

17:10 ↗ Wetland and it's located offsite to the

17:12 ↗ Northeast so it's buffer extends onto

17:14 ↗ the property it requires a 75t buffer

17:18 ↗ per code which is proposed by the

17:20 ↗ applicant to be reduced by

17:22 ↗ 15% um which is allowed per code um

17:26 ↗ through with the buffer reduction

17:28 ↗ restoration will occur within um the

17:31 ↗ buffer which is through removing the

17:32 ↗ existing lawn and replanting it with a

17:34 ↗ variety of native trees and

17:36 ↗ shrubs Schneider Creek um is within the

17:40 ↗ site as well it's a class two stream

17:42 ↗ with salmonoids it requires 100ft buffer

17:45 ↗ per code um which is proposed to be

17:47 ↗ reduced by

17:49 ↗ 17.8% the proposed area of impervious

17:53 ↗ surface to be removed um which is like

17:55 ↗ existing driveway and other impervious

17:57 ↗ surfaces that currently exist in the

17:59 ↗ buffer um will be removed from the

18:01 ↗ buffer and restored which exceeds the

18:03 ↗ minimum 1:1 ratio by approximately

18:07 ↗ 1,867 Square ft all of our critical area

18:11 ↗ reports for this project were sent out

18:13 ↗ to a third party peer review team um who

18:17 ↗ went through uh iterations of um review

18:21 ↗ and then gave their final approval that

18:24 ↗ it meets code um uh for both these items

18:28 ↗ there's a proposed natural growth

18:30 ↗ protection area which the combined

18:32 ↗ buffer area of

18:34 ↗ 23587 Ft or

18:37 ↗ 40.7% 40.7% of the site would be within

18:40 ↗ that natural growth protection area um

18:43 ↗ it will be restored to the Natural

18:44 ↗ vegetated condition all impervious

18:46 ↗ surfaces and invasive species will be

18:48 ↗ removed and a split rail fence and

18:50 ↗ signage will be um installed along the

18:52 ↗ edge of the buffer which is right along

18:54 ↗ the edge of the three block

18:57 ↗ Passage

18:59 ↗ this project went through SE review and

19:00 ↗ a mitigated determination of

19:02 ↗ non-significant was issued um there's

19:05 ↗ three mitigation measures I referenced

19:08 ↗ these before when we talked about

19:09 ↗ Transportation so they will be

19:12 ↗ dedicating right away and providing

19:13 ↗ temporary construction easement for a

19:15 ↗ city CT replacement project that is

19:16 ↗ occurring adjacent to the site install

19:19 ↗ raised intersections Northbound and

19:21 ↗ southbound left turn Lanes on Newport

19:23 ↗ and the rapid flashing Beacon across the

19:25 ↗ Milana entrance for the multi-use trail

19:28 ↗ and then as well as paying impact and

19:34 ↗ mitigation uh one other item I wanted to

19:36 ↗ add is um there are public comments in

19:39 ↗ your packet these are public comments

19:41 ↗ that have been received throughout the

19:43 ↗ life of the project um it was like there

19:46 ↗ was a lot of public comments um there's

19:49 ↗ over a 100 petitions of support within

19:51 ↗ that as well as um about 30 emails with

19:54 ↗ comments and concerns about various

19:55 ↗ topics um those are broken down in the

19:57 ↗ staff report by by topic with staff

19:59 ↗ responses to them um and then any

20:02 ↗ comments that were received after the

20:04 ↗ packet was published have been sent to

20:06 ↗ the Commissioners um ahead of

20:09 ↗ tonight thank you are there any

20:11 ↗ questions from Commission on the staff

20:13 ↗ presentation it's an opportunity for

20:15 ↗ clarifying

20:27 ↗ questions

20:28 ↗ and we'll be able to ask more detailed

20:30 ↗ questions later on correct correct

20:33 ↗ during uh our deliberation we'll be able

20:35 ↗ to ask that as thank you

20:39 ↗ chair okay thank you hearing no

20:41 ↗ questions we'll move on to the applicant

20:43 ↗ presentation uh let's

20:49 ↗ see thank you I'll need to swear you in

20:53 ↗ please state your name for the record

20:55 ↗ yes my name is hosin koram the app

20:59 ↗ you swear by oath or affirmation the

21:01 ↗ testimony you're about to provide is

21:02 ↗ true yes sir thank you

21:08 ↗ proceed fellow Commissioners uh lovely

21:11 ↗ staff audience here thank you for giving

21:15 ↗ me the opportunity to address you the

21:17 ↗ last time we were here was a little over

21:19 ↗ a year ago and uh is an honor for me to

21:22 ↗ present this I think the issue before us

21:25 ↗ tonight is bigger than one of Department

21:28 ↗ complex I want to address it is the

21:30 ↗ issue of provide housing for the future

21:34 ↗ Generations we have a choice for us the

21:38 ↗ choice is wall ourself in and trying to

21:42 ↗ pretend we're we're stopping progress on

21:45 ↗ modernity uh which is going to come at

21:47 ↗ the cost of increased market value for

21:51 ↗ living and once that happens you're

21:54 ↗ going to have a economic Decay because

21:57 ↗ we're not going to be provide housing

21:59 ↗ for the businesses that are within the

22:02 ↗ isqua

22:03 ↗ area and it's going to end up into a

22:09 ↗ declining city which is going to not

22:11 ↗ going to be the vision of isqua vision

22:14 ↗ isqua is a

22:15 ↗ lively place to live and work and to be

22:19 ↗ able to enjoy the uh the Liberties and

22:23 ↗ the beauties of the nature now and to

22:26 ↗ the Future

22:29 ↗ there there been always my view is

22:31 ↗ there's been a fallacy that development

22:33 ↗ comes at a cost to the

22:36 ↗ invironment I big to differ with that I

22:39 ↗ do not think so I'm a mechanical

22:42 ↗ engineer I graduated 40 years ago from

22:45 ↗ Washington State

22:46 ↗ University about a month before my

22:49 ↗ graduation I was looking at the map a

22:51 ↗ solar plan map and and in in that map

22:56 ↗ was showing that in in Washington you're

23:00 ↗ not feasible to have solar energy well

23:04 ↗ 40 Years of a gone by I could never

23:06 ↗ dream one day I would be doing that

23:09 ↗ project for myself and I am we have 156

23:14 ↗ about 156 solar cells on a roof we're

23:18 ↗ providing at this 65 par

23:21 ↗ complex but half of the energy is

23:24 ↗ through solar in the Cloudy Seattle we

23:27 ↗ provide half of the energy we have no

23:30 ↗ fossil

23:31 ↗ fuel no fossil fuel for this complex and

23:36 ↗ you know we providing well and above

23:39 ↗ what is required uh by the city uh to

23:43 ↗ have EV charging stations and EV ready

23:47 ↗ charging station for the future use and

23:50 ↗ and in fact we're working with pesan

23:53 ↗ energy the proposed is about three times

23:58 ↗ as energy efficient as an average

24:01 ↗ apartment complex in the United States

24:03 ↗ three times the the uh we're building

24:07 ↗ sustainable A Lead version

24:10 ↗ 4.1 I want you to know the lead

24:14 ↗ 4.1 is the is is at the Leading Edge of

24:17 ↗ the

24:18 ↗ technology it has not been actually

24:21 ↗ published by The Entity who is doing

24:25 ↗ sustainable apartment complexes me this

24:28 ↗ we have to go to them and try to get

24:31 ↗ them to uh work with us to come up with

24:35 ↗ uh the details that actually apply to

24:37 ↗ this project so this is really at the

24:39 ↗ Leading Edge of the technology that what

24:42 ↗ we're proposing as far as the um as far

24:46 ↗ as the uh uh storm management the storm

24:50 ↗ control uh sedimentation control is

24:53 ↗ going to take care of the particulars

24:56 ↗ who's going to be down damaging life of

24:59 ↗ the salmon and the environment we

25:01 ↗ actually have a water enhancement which

25:04 ↗ what it does it actually remove heavy

25:06 ↗ metals from the uh uh from the water

25:10 ↗ runoff what do we have now in that place

25:13 ↗ we have a home a septic tank and a drain

25:17 ↗ field the drain field is next

25:19 ↗ to

25:21 ↗ stream so human waste is finding its way

25:26 ↗ in that stream

25:28 ↗ the the main cause of our salmon uh

25:33 ↗ decline is environmental

25:36 ↗ impacts and we are in a small way we're

25:39 ↗ trying to fix that so um want to talk to

25:41 ↗ those who think that you will hurt the

25:44 ↗ environment by providing uh new

25:48 ↗ development I disagree with that we're

25:51 ↗ stopping uh pollution at this

25:55 ↗ side I think uh uh the lovely staff

25:58 ↗ mentioned

26:00 ↗ 40.7% of the site actually is going to

26:03 ↗ be natural Preserve an area restored to

26:07 ↗ the original pristine condition whereas

26:11 ↗ right now that whole area is open to the

26:13 ↗ public you can just go in you can go

26:16 ↗ fishing you could go whatever you want

26:18 ↗ your dog could run in I mean just just

26:20 ↗ think the environment that we're

26:23 ↗ protecting is doing so much good and

26:26 ↗ after all we're provide housing 65 unit

26:30 ↗ housing um uh some affordable units the

26:33 ↗ way I read the affordable unit code was

26:36 ↗ four total you say three I'll take your

26:38 ↗ word Madam that's fine I'm okay with

26:41 ↗ that I have no issues with that so I

26:43 ↗ just want to tell you that there is a

26:46 ↗ there's a way that everybody could come

26:50 ↗ as a winner we're actually proposing a

26:53 ↗ RightWay

26:54 ↗ Improvement right now there's no bike

26:56 ↗ lane on the street

26:58 ↗ uh there's no uh sidewalk we're

27:00 ↗ providing a 12T wide sidewalk a bike

27:04 ↗ lane and and Street Lighting in front of

27:07 ↗ the property Street lighting is on both

27:09 ↗ sides to provide illumination for people

27:11 ↗ who want to bike people who want to walk

27:14 ↗ and it

27:15 ↗ encourage uh activity of bicycling and

27:18 ↗ walking to work and fr

27:20 ↗ work so if you look at this project I

27:24 ↗ think this is a is a unique project that

27:27 ↗ provides

27:29 ↗ sustainability IT addresses the concerns

27:31 ↗ of the environment and serves the

27:34 ↗ environment moving

27:36 ↗ forward yes uh um um you know the lovely

27:40 ↗ staff mentioned about the tree retention

27:43 ↗ we have those two trees that actually we

27:46 ↗ have asked for administrative adjustment

27:48 ↗ of Standards but I should know those

27:51 ↗ parking those there's a parking lot at

27:53 ↗ the base of those trees Crush compact

27:56 ↗ Rock we have to remove those rocks we

27:59 ↗ have to S we have to provide suitable

28:02 ↗ soil for these trees to be able to

28:04 ↗ survive so we're doing so much good in

28:07 ↗ that project that I just think that um

28:11 ↗ that uh this project could be a really

28:13 ↗ asset the city of isaquel it would be a

28:15 ↗ project that environmentalists would

28:19 ↗ love to cherish would love to uh uh set

28:23 ↗ as an example that there's a way you can

28:26 ↗ serve the public and address the

28:28 ↗ environment and both will win at at the

28:31 ↗ same

28:32 ↗ time now um today I read a u uh a uh

28:37 ↗ email came in uh from um one of the

28:41 ↗ citizens in the city was about respect

28:43 ↗ to flooding I kind of want to address

28:45 ↗ that a little bit

28:46 ↗ here the flooding happens elsewhere it's

28:49 ↗ not on my property uh but when we look

28:52 ↗ at the issues we have to address those

28:54 ↗ issues why those are caused my

28:57 ↗ consultant address that issue here very

28:59 ↗ clearly and it's actually is there's H

29:02 ↗ the

29:03 ↗ debris roughly about quarter mile to the

29:05 ↗ north uh was got to get cleared out it's

29:10 ↗ it's it's it's it's the responsibility

29:12 ↗ of wash do not the city of isqua city of

29:15 ↗ iso may have a contract with washat uh

29:19 ↗ or us uh uh Department of Transportation

29:23 ↗ maybe maybe not but those are the issues

29:25 ↗ that those ENT is to address it has

29:28 ↗ nothing to do with my problem we meet in

29:31 ↗ code hands down and way in excess of

29:35 ↗ what's required and I think this

29:38 ↗ applicant should be uh application

29:41 ↗ should be

29:42 ↗ approved any questions I'm at your

29:45 ↗ service thank

29:46 ↗ you any questions of the applicant by

29:49 ↗ the

29:52 ↗ commission thank

29:55 ↗ you so we'll move on to the public

29:58 ↗ comment portion of the

30:01 ↗ meeting Mr Aldridge has anyone signed up

30:03 ↗ to comment on this topic yes we have six

30:06 ↗ individuals in the room and we do have

30:08 ↗ one person online who would like to

30:10 ↗ speak okay thank you those who are in

30:12 ↗ person and signed up in advance to make

30:14 ↗ comments we'll be called on first if

30:16 ↗ you're in the room and did not sign up I

30:18 ↗ will ask for other speakers before

30:20 ↗ closing this portion of the meeting if

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30:48 ↗ the lecturn for meeting attendees

30:50 ↗ participating virtually when you're

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31:01 ↗ please limit your comments to 5 minutes

31:04 ↗ and please avoid repetition by

31:06 ↗ referencing previous commenters with

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31:13 ↗ project if you're attending virtually

31:15 ↗ and don't respond after your name or

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31:26 ↗ personal attack obscene language

31:28 ↗ derogatory remarks disruptive behavior

31:30 ↗ and so on will not be permitted Mr

31:34 ↗ Aldrich please call those in the room in

31:35 ↗ the order they signed up to speak first

31:38 ↗ up to speak tonight will be Brad

31:42 ↗ C okay perfect next up we have sudha

31:52 ↗ S please press the button on your

31:56 ↗ microphone

31:57 ↗ perfect hi my name is sudas Sama I'm a

32:00 ↗ resident of isaka uh I own a property I

32:03 ↗ mean we live in a property like River

32:05 ↗ Town Homes which is very close to the

32:09 ↗ the proposed project and uh after

32:12 ↗ listening to the project details I mean

32:14 ↗ I did see the signs like while going for

32:16 ↗ a walk and everything but after

32:18 ↗ listening to everything I do strongly

32:20 ↗ support the project because like we have

32:23 ↗ River Town Homes there and then very

32:25 ↗ close to Milano there is an ology

32:27 ↗ apartments and then which we all like to

32:30 ↗ walk because of the the the housing

32:34 ↗ that's provided when we are like going

32:36 ↗ for a walk we feel very safer with the

32:38 ↗ wide uh sidewalks and the lighting

32:40 ↗ that's on the street so it makes not

32:42 ↗ only the residents of that particular

32:44 ↗ Community but the people around like us

32:46 ↗ feel safer I strongly support the

32:48 ↗ project thank

32:56 ↗ you next up to speak we have Frank

33:06 ↗ K uh my name is Frank koram I'm a

33:10 ↗ partner with Hussein and uh I I'm

33:14 ↗ basically support the the project all

33:17 ↗ the way since the housing is going

33:21 ↗ through the sky the cost of housing in

33:24 ↗ all East Side communities including

33:26 ↗ isqua

33:28 ↗ uh to make a long speak short this is a

33:32 ↗ a betterment for the community and for

33:35 ↗ every resident who lives in isqua I

33:38 ↗ believe this is a positive uh

33:41 ↗ project thank

33:47 ↗ you next up we have Bob

33:55 ↗ H hey uh thank you Commissioners uh I

33:59 ↗ appreciate your staff for all the work

34:01 ↗ you've done this my name is Bob hagland

34:03 ↗ I'm a resident of snow Mish County U my

34:04 ↗ wife and I drove an hour and a half to

34:06 ↗ be here with you tonight we we actually

34:09 ↗ um I addressed uh the the um

34:12 ↗ Commissioners um last year I believe

34:15 ↗ when when we were discussing this and

34:17 ↗ one of the things I pointed out then and

34:18 ↗ I don't want to go into too much detail

34:19 ↗ about now was the the the human aspect

34:21 ↗ of this is that there is a real shortage

34:24 ↗ of housing um the community I live in is

34:26 ↗ Granite Falls uh we are at our capacity

34:28 ↗ and our sewer system so we can't add

34:30 ↗ more housing right now until that is

34:32 ↗ addressed so it's put a block in in in

34:35 ↗ the ability to add new housing to

34:36 ↗ accommodate our our growing Community

34:39 ↗ what I see in this though is that

34:40 ↗ there's such a shortage of housing all

34:42 ↗ over the area and isqua is um has the

34:45 ↗ same issue just on a a little different

34:46 ↗ scale I think that that having projects

34:49 ↗ like this that are good quality they've

34:50 ↗ gone through the type of reviews

34:51 ↗ especially environmental reviews um will

34:54 ↗ be of great benefit to the community and

34:56 ↗ that's that's why I came to to talk with

34:58 ↗ you there's the environmental aspect is

35:00 ↗ one I'd really like to focus on the um

35:02 ↗ this evening is that the I've been to

35:05 ↗ the site I was at during the summer to

35:06 ↗ look at it and um looks really nice when

35:09 ↗ it's not pouring down rain but it's a

35:12 ↗ it's a great example of where past

35:14 ↗ development standards uh or should I say

35:16 ↗ Lac of Standards really did have an

35:19 ↗ adverse effect on the environment if on

35:21 ↗ this small scale you know just a little

35:23 ↗ over an acre and a half or so that you

35:25 ↗ know it's a small piece of the big

35:27 ↗ puzzle but if you look at what's been

35:28 ↗ going on all throughout the pit Sound

35:30 ↗ area and and within the city here too

35:32 ↗ that that there's been a lot of

35:33 ↗ construction that has not really thought

35:36 ↗ about things like the the um the salmon

35:38 ↗ I mean you have a beautiful um you know

35:41 ↗ piece of art up here that depicts uh the

35:43 ↗ commitment the isqua has to the

35:45 ↗ environment that's something I think has

35:47 ↗ to be really considered very strong in

35:48 ↗ this projects like this not only have

35:50 ↗ the opportunity to to correct some of

35:51 ↗ those past mistakes but they also do

35:53 ↗ generate a lot of money for for the city

35:55 ↗ which can then be used for environmental

35:57 ↗ mitigation something that I think a lot

35:58 ↗ of people Overlook is the fact that that

36:01 ↗ these projects where we want to go out

36:02 ↗ and actually correct some of these

36:04 ↗ mistakes from the past cost money and

36:06 ↗ the tax revenue from this and and the

36:09 ↗ economic productivity of the additional

36:10 ↗ residents to the city will help offset

36:13 ↗ that as well it's something that I

36:14 ↗ really do encourage you to consider and

36:16 ↗ um I'll just leave it with that but I

36:18 ↗ just I would encourage approval of this

36:19 ↗ I think they've done a great job U since

36:22 ↗ I first saw what the project was I that

36:24 ↗ the tweaks and kind of improvements have

36:25 ↗ really made this uh basically just an

36:28 ↗ All-Star type project and something that

36:30 ↗ will again correct a mistake from the

36:33 ↗ past it will meet the community's needs

36:35 ↗ and it will address that housing issue

36:37 ↗ that is that is nagging all of us

36:38 ↗ driving the prices up making it really

36:41 ↗ hard for our kids to to have a home to

36:43 ↗ live in so that I'd like to thank you

36:44 ↗ for the

36:48 ↗ time next up we have Yan

36:55 ↗ B

37:00 ↗ good evening uh my name is Yan baket U

37:04 ↗ I'm a proud resident of Washington state

37:06 ↗ and a prospective uh isqua resident and

37:10 ↗ I live in Washington state for nearly 20

37:12 ↗ years a father of four my main concern

37:15 ↗ is affordable housing for families in

37:17 ↗ isqua uh my primary hope is for my

37:20 ↗ children to have the opportunity to

37:21 ↗ reside in the state and afford housing

37:24 ↗ without having to juggle uh multi jobs a

37:28 ↗ thoughtfully planned and code compliant

37:30 ↗ apartment complex stands as an excellent

37:32 ↗ housing solution for young families when

37:35 ↗ an apartment complex project aligns with

37:38 ↗ the codes it ensures a safety for the

37:40 ↗ environment and proves beneficial for

37:42 ↗ the people as an engineer myself I

37:46 ↗ understand that any reasons to Halt this

37:49 ↗ already permitted project must be

37:51 ↗ supported by sufficient data I urge the

37:54 ↗ approval of this project to contribute

37:56 ↗ to the the growth of a Vibrant Community

37:58 ↗ in

37:59 ↗ isqua and also as the applicant was

38:02 ↗ speaking I believe he did mention

38:05 ↗ that when the complex will

38:09 ↗ be built it will also create jobs I

38:14 ↗ believe for at least one year that's

38:16 ↗ going to help a lot so thank you for

38:19 ↗ your

38:25 ↗ attention next up we have Carl

38:32 ↗ P yes

38:43 ↗ sir okay once again my name is Carl

38:46 ↗ posman I live across the

38:50 ↗ street and I have some very basic

38:53 ↗ questions that I couldn't find answered

38:55 ↗ and the staff information I was

38:58 ↗ mailed and one is how tall is this

39:02 ↗ Building compared to the street

39:07 ↗ level how far above

39:13 ↗ grade your comments sir the the and how

39:16 ↗ far back what's the setb excuse me sir

39:19 ↗ after your comments and questions then

39:21 ↗ the applicant will be able to respond to

39:23 ↗ your questions all right so you might as

39:24 ↗ well just go ahead and do them and the

39:25 ↗ applicant will not resp thanks very

39:28 ↗ much I didn't know that signing in there

39:31 ↗ meant I was coming up

39:37 ↗ here perfect that is all of our signed

39:40 ↗ up uh individuals for public hearing we

39:43 ↗ do have one person online okay please

39:45 ↗ proceed with the person online thanks

39:47 ↗ perfect yes so Valerie G uh I am now

39:51 ↗ making you a panelist you should see the

39:53 ↗ option to unmute uh you may also turn on

39:56 ↗ on your video If you so choose um you

39:59 ↗ may lower your hand when you are

40:00 ↗ finished speaking when you begin please

40:03 ↗ State your first and last name for the

40:04 ↗ record and you will have five minutes

40:06 ↗ you can begin when you are

40:09 ↗ ready good evening um councel good

40:12 ↗ evening everybody present my name is

40:14 ↗ valer

40:15 ↗ GCO I am honored to serve as honorary

40:19 ↗ Consul of Ukraine in

40:20 ↗ Seattle uh for state of Washington and

40:25 ↗ state of Oregon State of Washington is

40:27 ↗ welcoming state for

40:28 ↗ refugees um and it became home for over

40:32 ↗ 100,000 people uh who immigrated from

40:36 ↗ Ukraine within the past 30 to 35

40:40 ↗ years um within the past year and a half

40:44 ↗ when fullscale Invasion started when

40:46 ↗ Russia attacked

40:49 ↗ Ukraine uh with a brutal full scale

40:53 ↗ Invasion and War uh over 20,000 people

40:58 ↗ uh choose Washington as their refuge and

41:02 ↗ came to Washington State many of them

41:05 ↗ live in different cities around um

41:08 ↗ Seattle area and uh many would like uh

41:12 ↗ some move to isaka and many more would

41:14 ↗ like to move to isaka there are few

41:17 ↗ reasons for that and one re one of the

41:19 ↗ reasons is because of its nature it

41:21 ↗ looks very much as um western parts of

41:25 ↗ Ukraine as caraan

41:28 ↗ mountains um a project that is

41:32 ↗ um under your

41:35 ↗ consideration and was preliminary

41:37 ↗ approved is going to be Improvement for

41:40 ↗ the area I uh looked at the property how

41:44 ↗ it was built before and uh and what is

41:48 ↗ proposed right now it's clearly that it

41:50 ↗ is Improvement it will improve

41:54 ↗ conditions for uh create

41:56 ↗ there will be no debris and hum human uh

42:01 ↗ um human debris that will be uh um

42:05 ↗ getting into water and that will also be

42:08 ↗ Improvement for salmon which is

42:09 ↗ important for all the ukrainians as well

42:13 ↗ in addition to this as it was mentioned

42:16 ↗ before it will have additional housing

42:19 ↗ many of ukrainians who came who

42:21 ↗ immigrated to United States to

42:23 ↗ Washington State in particular they

42:26 ↗ looking for housing for affordable

42:28 ↗ housing as well opportunities and this

42:31 ↗ is a uh another opportunity for them to

42:36 ↗ uh get uh much needed housing when they

42:39 ↗ come to Washington State so this uh by

42:42 ↗ allowing projects like this you are

42:45 ↗ helping uh to uh reduce shortage of

42:50 ↗ housing that's uh I think this is

42:53 ↗ important uh uh to mention again uh in

42:57 ↗ addition to this um I would like uh

43:03 ↗ to appreciate what Hussein kuram and his

43:07 ↗ family is doing that they're not just

43:09 ↗ meeting codes and standards but they're

43:12 ↗ exceeding them and I think they're

43:14 ↗ setting up example for other uh

43:17 ↗ companies for other apartment buildings

43:19 ↗ and this will be projects that city of

43:23 ↗ isqua will be proud of and residents who

43:27 ↗ live uh nearby or even further will

43:31 ↗ enjoy when they will see when they will

43:33 ↗ walk by when they will use bike Lanes uh

43:37 ↗ to uh ride their bikes so um I stand in

43:42 ↗ support of the uh project thank

43:50 ↗ you we do have one more person who's

43:52 ↗ indicated that they would like to speak

43:54 ↗ online if you would like for that to

43:56 ↗ that's fine we conr with that now thank

44:03 ↗ you Carolyn I am now making you a

44:06 ↗ panelist you should see the option to

44:08 ↗ unmute you may also turn on your video

44:10 ↗ If you so choose uh please lower your

44:13 ↗ hand when you are finished speaking uh

44:15 ↗ when you begin please State your first

44:17 ↗ and last name for the record uh you will

44:19 ↗ have 5 minutes and you may begin when

44:21 ↗ you're

44:24 ↗ ready thank you hi my name is Carolyn m

44:27 ↗ and I currently live in Fairwood

44:30 ↗ Washington just a little bit away from

44:33 ↗ isqua uh two years ago I was looking for

44:36 ↗ a place to live and one of my choices

44:38 ↗ was isqua I could not find affordable

44:41 ↗ housing or even a space to live that um

44:45 ↗ would allow me to have a lifestyle um to

44:49 ↗ be able to travel move and work in the

44:51 ↗ area or surrounding areas and landed in

44:54 ↗ Fairwood Washington

44:56 ↗ as time has gone on the situation has

44:59 ↗ gotten worse certain housing um units in

45:03 ↗ the renon area have gotten more

45:05 ↗ dangerous and so there are not safe

45:08 ↗ places for people to land which is a

45:11 ↗ concern for me as a mom of a young adult

45:15 ↗ and knowing that there are many young

45:16 ↗ adults looking for places to live that

45:19 ↗ are affordable that can get them to

45:22 ↗ where they need to go in their careers

45:24 ↗ and in their lives and forming

45:26 ↗ families and and relationships and

45:29 ↗ community and this whole plan for this

45:33 ↗ housing setup is Forward Thinking and

45:36 ↗ that it looks at the impacts on the

45:38 ↗ community it looks at building up

45:41 ↗ community and it is a very forward

45:43 ↗ thinking plan and I look forward to

45:45 ↗ seeing the council and the planning

45:48 ↗ committee to um approve this plan and

45:51 ↗ let the building go forward thank you

45:53 ↗ for your

45:54 ↗ time

45:57 ↗ thanks do we have anyone else online we

45:59 ↗ do not okay great is there anyone in the

46:01 ↗ room then uh who would like to speak who

46:04 ↗ did not sign up before yes uh please

46:07 ↗ approach the lect turn and uh turn on

46:09 ↗ the

46:12 ↗ mic and introduce yourself

46:21 ↗ please my name is Geraldine kery I'm a

46:24 ↗ resident of isqua I've been been here 46

46:26 ↗ years I think I'm probably one of the

46:29 ↗ old ones in the community now um I live

46:32 ↗ on Newport Way my driveway is off

46:34 ↗ Newport way and we talk about affordable

46:37 ↗ housing what I want to know is what is

46:40 ↗ this project considering affordable

46:43 ↗ housing is it 600,000 700,000 a million

46:47 ↗ and a half I mean I bought a house here

46:50 ↗ 46 years ago and boy I mean it was

46:52 ↗ pennies compared to what um the prices

46:56 ↗ are now so I would like them to answer

46:59 ↗ and let me know what income I need to

47:02 ↗ have if I want to buy one of their

47:04 ↗ affordable houses I don't believe we're

47:07 ↗ really talking affordable houses because

47:10 ↗ you're going to have to have two people

47:12 ↗ working and so um I think you ought to

47:15 ↗ just call this you know residence uh

47:18 ↗ building and Define what you mean by

47:21 ↗ affordable housing when it's called

47:23 ↗ affordable housing thank

47:28 ↗ you yes

47:35 ↗ please hello sorry for coming in late

47:38 ↗ there's a school board meeting happening

47:39 ↗ at the same time on the other end of

47:40 ↗ town we're kind of running back and

47:42 ↗ forth my name is Landon Halverson I live

47:44 ↗ here in isqua Oldtown just right over

47:46 ↗ that way in the isqua cork Condominiums

47:48 ↗ I serve on the economic Vitality

47:50 ↗ commission uh for the city so I'm

47:51 ↗ familiar with a lot of the work you guys

47:53 ↗ do and I'm here today uh one in support

47:57 ↗ of the project but but to explain why uh

48:00 ↗ you've heard a lot so far about the

48:01 ↗ environmental impacts you've heard about

48:03 ↗ um housing impacts all of those things

48:06 ↗ are true uh but that being said it's 65

48:08 ↗ units uh we're not going to solve a

48:10 ↗ problem overnight with one building uh

48:12 ↗ or create uh massive new problems with

48:15 ↗ one building but it is something I'm

48:18 ↗ concerned about is precedent that we

48:20 ↗ would be setting by denying this

48:22 ↗ building and by saying we're not going

48:24 ↗ to go through with it when I look back

48:26 ↗ to see when uh when the paperwork got

48:29 ↗ started for this project it was 2019

48:31 ↗ 2020 and granted I know we had a

48:33 ↗ pandemic that significantly altered the

48:36 ↗ course of the way our city had to handle

48:38 ↗ administrative things I I totally

48:40 ↗ understand that but the fact that it

48:41 ↗ started so long ago and we are now

48:44 ↗ almost in

48:45 ↗ 2024 at a time when we have an

48:47 ↗ unprecedented housing crisis the idea

48:50 ↗ that 65 units could just sit in limbo

48:53 ↗ for 5 years and then be told no after

48:55 ↗ spending millions of dollars what

48:58 ↗ message does that send to any sort of

48:59 ↗ developer that wants to come in and

49:00 ↗ build the housing that we need because

49:02 ↗ let's be clear we do need more housing

49:04 ↗ right what kind of message does that

49:06 ↗ send uh if if it meets code I strongly

49:10 ↗ believe as a resident and this is just

49:12 ↗ my opinion if it meets code we need to

49:15 ↗ set the precedent that we uh accept

49:17 ↗ buildings that meet code and we don't

49:19 ↗ accept buildings that don't um I don't

49:23 ↗ believe that our city government works

49:25 ↗ best when uh bureaucrats have broad

49:28 ↗ discretion over you know who gets what

49:31 ↗ permit uh and whether or not things get

49:33 ↗ approved uh I believe you all are

49:35 ↗ benevolent people who are serving I know

49:37 ↗ again as a commission member you we

49:38 ↗ don't get paid the big bucks to do it uh

49:40 ↗ we do it because we care about our

49:41 ↗ communities um but that being said I

49:44 ↗ would hate to find ourselves in a

49:45 ↗ situation where somebody was able to

49:47 ↗ look at president and say well you know

49:49 ↗ I really don't like this individual or

49:51 ↗ this individual project for whatever

49:53 ↗ reason um and so I'm going to be able to

49:54 ↗ whip some some members of this

49:56 ↗ commission together to to kind of brush

49:57 ↗ the project aside uh and again I'm not

49:59 ↗ at all suggesting that that's what's

50:01 ↗ happening or what has happened in any

50:02 ↗ sense um with this project or any other

50:04 ↗ project but about setting the precedent

50:07 ↗ that if it meets the code if it meets

50:10 ↗ the rules if the t's are crossed and the

50:12 ↗ dies are addded we have a responsibility

50:14 ↗ as a city to say yes and if it's not to

50:17 ↗ very quickly say no you go back to the

50:19 ↗ drawing board this is a case where uh as

50:22 ↗ far as I know all of the requirements

50:24 ↗ have been met many of which have been

50:26 ↗ exceeded uh we want to set an example to

50:30 ↗ developers that come into our city that

50:31 ↗ if you come in and you do the right

50:33 ↗ thing and you invest in the environment

50:34 ↗ and you go the extra mile we're going to

50:36 ↗ be hospitable to you and we're going to

50:37 ↗ make it easier to develop in this

50:38 ↗ community if you're not willing to do

50:40 ↗ that if you don't go the extra mile if

50:42 ↗ you're constantly fighting with the city

50:44 ↗ about what you can and can't do which is

50:45 ↗ what has not happened here right then we

50:48 ↗ don't want to work with you in the

50:49 ↗ future but when you have a developer

50:51 ↗ like Mr kuram who has worked with the

50:53 ↗ city uh consistently ly and who has gone

50:56 ↗ above and beyond to meet the code um

50:59 ↗ even when that code has changed or not

51:00 ↗ been clear I believe as a resident the

51:03 ↗ city I want to live in is a city that

51:06 ↗ rewards that and encourages that that

51:07 ↗ rewards the process being followed that

51:10 ↗ encourages others to process to follow

51:12 ↗ the process as it's written uh and for

51:15 ↗ people to know when they apply for a

51:17 ↗ permit um land use whatever it is that

51:20 ↗ their background who they know who they

51:23 ↗ are why they're there none of that's

51:24 ↗ going to matter what's going to matter

51:26 ↗ is whether or not it meets the code

51:27 ↗ prescribed by our ordinances and for

51:30 ↗ that reason I think it's important we

51:31 ↗ set the precedent and approve this

51:32 ↗ project thank

51:35 ↗ you thank you would anyone else like to

51:47 ↗ speak hey I'm Connie Marsh I live up on

51:49 ↗ squawk

51:50 ↗ Mountain um so most of my concerns with

51:55 ↗ this project have to do with its

51:57 ↗ interface uh with the

52:00 ↗ city parts that it is fed by and feeds

52:06 ↗ into and how they are going to relate to

52:09 ↗ one another I have one concern about

52:14 ↗ um uh storm water treatment and the

52:19 ↗ cartridge systems that the city of isqua

52:23 ↗ has used over time have been

52:26 ↗ problematic we've tried sand filters

52:28 ↗ we've tried many different systems and

52:30 ↗ the problem is uh maintenance of them by

52:35 ↗ private property owners and the cities

52:37 ↗ themselves and without appropriate

52:39 ↗ maintenance of these storm water systems

52:43 ↗ then you uh don't have the clean water

52:46 ↗ going where you expect it to go so I

52:49 ↗ don't know how to condition

52:52 ↗ future um maintenance of storm water

52:55 ↗ it's never been satisfactory but I'm

52:57 ↗ shooting at that one again uh the next

53:00 ↗ one is the interface between Schneider

53:04 ↗ Creek coming into the property and where

53:09 ↗ it looks like the city is requiring

53:12 ↗ planting around Schneider Creek but

53:16 ↗ shortly the city shortly 10 years I

53:19 ↗ don't know how long is going to change

53:21 ↗ the Culvert with Newport Way and that's

53:25 ↗ all going to have to

53:27 ↗ be uh impacted and potentially dug up

53:32 ↗ again as you bring Schneider Creek down

53:34 ↗ to ground level so I

53:39 ↗ I I hate to see a waste of money and

53:43 ↗ time for something that's going to be

53:44 ↗ dug up shortly and everybody's going to

53:46 ↗ do it again I'm wondering if there is

53:49 ↗ some area around where Schneider Creek

53:52 ↗ is going to come in that they know will

53:54 ↗ be impact Ed by that future project that

53:57 ↗ uh can be treated more lightly as

54:00 ↗ compared to fully planted with trees and

54:03 ↗ vegetation only be torn away that seems

54:05 ↗ like a waste the other thing is the city

54:09 ↗ of issaqua in Gateway and Gateway Senior

54:12 ↗ as we call them colloquially created

54:15 ↗ that um bird cage with the flow that

54:20 ↗ goes into the Wetland offsite this

54:24 ↗ project

54:25 ↗ is feeding through that same system but

54:29 ↗ that system is impacting the

54:32 ↗ Wetland

54:34 ↗ inappropriately already and I I I hate

54:37 ↗ to multiply that factor where you're

54:40 ↗ you're creating a whole another storm

54:42 ↗ water system that has to be metered but

54:44 ↗ in heavy storms that go over the amount

54:48 ↗ that they're required to maintain can

54:51 ↗ cause impacts to that Wetland because of

54:53 ↗ the channelization of that that system

54:56 ↗ and to my mind that is a combined effort

55:01 ↗ to prevent the harm to that Wetland and

55:03 ↗ then further the downstream flooding in

55:05 ↗ Schneider Creek I don't know how to get

55:07 ↗ that to happen I have tried to get that

55:09 ↗ fixed for two maybe three years I don't

55:12 ↗ know how many times I've commented on it

55:13 ↗ and had tours of it so if you could at

55:16 ↗ least ask the questions about the

55:18 ↗ intentions for that storm water outlet

55:21 ↗ and if it is going to be fixed that

55:23 ↗ would be awesome

55:26 ↗ otherwise you know it's not the new code

55:29 ↗ so we're working with the old code

55:32 ↗ but I think it is a

55:35 ↗ a thoughtful new development even if I

55:40 ↗ would have liked 150 foot buffer better

55:42 ↗ because that's best available science

55:43 ↗ anyway bye thank

55:47 ↗ you thank you would anyone else like to

55:54 ↗ speak

55:55 ↗ does the applicant have any rebuttal to

55:57 ↗ the comments that have been made and

56:00 ↗ please

56:02 ↗ proceed and please reintroduce

56:05 ↗ yourself yes my name is Hussein koram

56:08 ↗ I'm the

56:09 ↗ applicant uh first I uh I want to thank

56:13 ↗ uh all those who made a comment even

56:16 ↗ though some of them were not favorable

56:18 ↗ to the project that it's good to talk uh

56:21 ↗ one that was very interesting to me was

56:24 ↗ uh m

56:25 ↗ uh uh you know Langdon he mentioned

56:28 ↗ about uh you know uh the time that it

56:32 ↗ takes and I kind of want to brush on

56:33 ↗ that a little bit here although it was

56:34 ↗ not a uh was not a critical is was a

56:38 ↗ comment uh at the same time when I was

56:41 ↗ uh when I bought this project there was

56:43 ↗ another project in in Redmond that I uh

56:46 ↗ I was considering at that time well that

56:49 ↗ project got built it's right now it's

56:52 ↗ almost finished and I'm still doing this

56:56 ↗ uh so I just want to tell you uh things

56:59 ↗ take a lot longer in isqua uh but I

57:02 ↗ always look at it in the positive way

57:04 ↗ the positive is when I was going around

57:06 ↗ and getting um petition signed I met

57:10 ↗ this lovely Korean lady here and I asked

57:14 ↗ her if you would meet my brother and she

57:16 ↗ said yes so here we are they've been

57:19 ↗ dating for about a year and a half so

57:21 ↗ look at it in a positive way there's

57:23 ↗ love in isqua so it's special so from

57:27 ↗ that point of view that's fine if I had

57:29 ↗ to do it again I would have done it I

57:31 ↗ would have taken another couple of years

57:32 ↗ over and would do it again so that's

57:35 ↗ that's for that and let's go let's talk

57:37 ↗ about um uh I think we had a gentleman

57:40 ↗ um Mr

57:42 ↗ pushman pushman I'm sorry Mr pushman you

57:45 ↗ asked about the the the height the

57:47 ↗ height uh the a lot height under the

57:49 ↗ density bonus program is 65 ft sir uh

57:55 ↗ is it's about yes is as I understand the

57:59 ↗ staff will probably know better than I

58:00 ↗ do I think it's from average Street

58:03 ↗ grade is or I I believe is average

58:06 ↗ Street grade and average probably you

58:08 ↗ lose it about 2 feet three feet from one

58:10 ↗ end to another so it's really almost

58:13 ↗ level uh 65 wor at about

58:17 ↗ 52 or 53 ft so we're way below what's

58:22 ↗ allowed under the code under the density

58:24 ↗ bonus program as far as sitb back from

58:27 ↗ the street uh this is kind of

58:29 ↗ interesting some people Express concerns

58:31 ↗ that it's too close to the road well

58:35 ↗ this essential isqua uh zoning uh it's

58:39 ↗ it's you can build right at the sight

58:43 ↗ line right on on the property line we're

58:45 ↗ roughly

58:46 ↗ about the maximum we can go away from

58:49 ↗ the property line in this zone is 15 ft

58:52 ↗ we're roughly about 12 to 13 ft so we're

58:57 ↗ almost as far as we can be is that

58:59 ↗ correct ma'am we're almost as far as we

59:02 ↗ can be from the proper line uh you just

59:05 ↗ literally could not go any further away

59:08 ↗ uh and that's really done in a way

59:10 ↗ because I think city council uh wanted

59:13 ↗ the parkway design from what I

59:15 ↗ understand which has a 12T wide sidewalk

59:18 ↗ so if you have 12T sidewalk you really

59:21 ↗ need to be further away and that's to

59:23 ↗ encourage um um Walkin did that answer

59:27 ↗ your question

59:28 ↗ sir okay thank you the the other

59:31 ↗ question was uh fellow uh long-term

59:35 ↗ resident of city of isqua my heart goes

59:38 ↗ with you ma'am I know a lot has gone

59:41 ↗ wrong with our state in terms of cost

59:43 ↗ and expenses things are very expensive

59:46 ↗ these these These are part these are

59:48 ↗ apartment these are rentals uh when you

59:51 ↗ get we're not we can't sell them we're

59:54 ↗ they're just one unit because of how the

59:56 ↗ loans come in but let me ask let me kind

59:58 ↗ of address the issue of affordable

1:00:00 ↗ housing in King County the average

1:00:03 ↗ income is roughly about 120,000 or 100

1:00:07 ↗ between 110 to 120,000 a

1:00:10 ↗ year honestly for the hours that I work

1:00:13 ↗ I I still feel I'm working for five

1:00:15 ↗ bucks an hour I work so many hours uh

1:00:19 ↗ but it's it's it's if your fixed income

1:00:22 ↗ is terrible I understand it and if

1:00:25 ↗ you're average American working American

1:00:27 ↗ person it's just as bad

1:00:31 ↗ so what what are we going to do about it

1:00:33 ↗ here I feel the most the most important

1:00:38 ↗ expense in Americans is the ca of

1:00:42 ↗ housing uh cost of housing has gone

1:00:44 ↗ through the

1:00:45 ↗ roof and that's why state of Washington

1:00:49 ↗ actually intervened and literally took

1:00:51 ↗ away the single family zones in

1:00:53 ↗ Washington State on the HB

1:00:56 ↗ 1110 so basically very soon you're going

1:01:00 ↗ to have codes enacted so there would be

1:01:02 ↗ no single family homes you can build

1:01:05 ↗ multif family in single family zones and

1:01:08 ↗ not and maybe unit from from what I've

1:01:10 ↗ heard from 2

1:01:11 ↗ to4 yes somebody could build I got a

1:01:14 ↗ nice house somebody could build a duplex

1:01:16 ↗ or fourplex next to my home it's going

1:01:18 ↗ to invade my privacy but if we look at

1:01:21 ↗ it from from the point of view of the

1:01:23 ↗ future generation

1:01:25 ↗ that may be the right thing to do

1:01:27 ↗ because we have neglected the cries for

1:01:29 ↗ the Youth and the young people who

1:01:31 ↗ wanted to have affordable

1:01:32 ↗ homes that's the price we have to pay

1:01:36 ↗ I'm sad to say so that's where we are

1:01:40 ↗ these rentals uh if there are 50% of

1:01:44 ↗ income I believe you're looking at

1:01:46 ↗ roughly about, to $1,100 a month from my

1:01:51 ↗ memory which is pretty good A A market

1:01:54 ↗ rate unit which is not affordable in

1:01:58 ↗ that area you're looking at about 20 22

1:02:01 ↗ $2,300 a month so it's about half the

1:02:04 ↗ price the more often the

1:02:07 ↗ merrier does that answer your question

1:02:10 ↗ ma'am thank you uh then uh then we go to

1:02:14 ↗ issue of Maintenance store

1:02:17 ↗ maintenance you know I'm a I'm a

1:02:20 ↗ property owner I take pride into the

1:02:22 ↗ work that I do I'm an engineer my work

1:02:25 ↗ is who I am what we do we have multiple

1:02:29 ↗ properties I don't assign responsibility

1:02:32 ↗ an inspection to my staff I do it myself

1:02:35 ↗ yes Mrs Marshall who walked away she's

1:02:39 ↗ right sometimes it doesn't get done but

1:02:42 ↗ in my case that's not the case we do it

1:02:44 ↗ I do it myself CES should be

1:02:48 ↗ inspected every year and we do so and

1:02:51 ↗ there's an easy way you can tell if the

1:02:54 ↗ C cges need to be replaced you look at

1:02:56 ↗ the debris on the wall if you see wall

1:02:59 ↗ debris these are the manufacturer

1:03:01 ↗ recommendations then you need to call

1:03:03 ↗ the manufacturer and they will command

1:03:05 ↗ then remove those cartridges and take

1:03:08 ↗ them away and put new ones bring new

1:03:10 ↗ ones and put it in they may have to take

1:03:12 ↗ it away and fix it but that's sort of

1:03:14 ↗ the process you would not have that

1:03:16 ↗ problem with somebody like me somebody

1:03:18 ↗ is

1:03:19 ↗ responsible so uh that answers that

1:03:21 ↗ question then we go to issue of uh

1:03:25 ↗ planting around the Schneider cek I got

1:03:29 ↗ my uh lovely uh you know landscape

1:03:33 ↗ architect environmentalist environmental

1:03:36 ↗ landscape architect here with me she

1:03:38 ↗ would tell you i' like her to address

1:03:40 ↗ that but from what I remember she told

1:03:42 ↗ me she thought about this and I think

1:03:44 ↗ they have a what a buffer about two feet

1:03:46 ↗ right about is that right or right at

1:03:49 ↗ the edge of the Schneider Creek that

1:03:51 ↗ you're not

1:03:53 ↗ planting maybe a

1:03:56 ↗ foot we're all planting there so I the

1:03:59 ↗ the concern was why are you planting

1:04:03 ↗ when you're going to have to remove and

1:04:04 ↗ take it away that was her concern my

1:04:07 ↗ understanding was was a little bit of

1:04:08 ↗ buffer there like maybe a foot or two

1:04:11 ↗ that uh but but further even if you're

1:04:14 ↗ removing the uh if you're changing the

1:04:17 ↗ uh uh the cover I don't think that would

1:04:21 ↗ have any issues maybe the plants or but

1:04:23 ↗ she would address that not me

1:04:24 ↗ then we go to the issue of

1:04:28 ↗ uh um then we go to issue of storm

1:04:31 ↗ drainage uh I think there were uh

1:04:34 ↗ allegation that storm drainage does not

1:04:37 ↗ properly address or does not properly

1:04:40 ↗ function well I will tell you this here

1:04:43 ↗ uh the storm drainage uh for this

1:04:45 ↗ project was based on Department ecology

1:04:48 ↗ 2019 storm water manual for Western

1:04:52 ↗ Washington and city of isqua 2022 Stone

1:04:55 ↗ water manual addendum uh I am I'm a

1:04:58 ↗ mechanical engineer I'm not a civil

1:05:00 ↗ engineer um a civil engineer it's it's

1:05:03 ↗ listening and I would like the civil

1:05:05 ↗ engineer for the project to address that

1:05:07 ↗ but those issues have been addressed in

1:05:09 ↗ the storm water manual but I want to

1:05:12 ↗ brush up there was the the miss Marshall

1:05:15 ↗ brought up the issue of

1:05:17 ↗ flooding the flooding apparently she

1:05:20 ↗ complained to the city about why the

1:05:22 ↗ flooding happens well if you have a

1:05:26 ↗ flooding someplace you got to look at

1:05:28 ↗ the cause why you have flooding because

1:05:30 ↗ water is not flowing you going to look

1:05:32 ↗ at where the water is Flowing the water

1:05:35 ↗ is Flowing roughly about quarter of a

1:05:37 ↗ mile North uh goes under roughly about

1:05:42 ↗ Culvert a small cul under the

1:05:44 ↗ I90 well as it turns out I took photos

1:05:48 ↗ and my uh consultant is here she could

1:05:50 ↗ probably address that better the debris

1:05:53 ↗ has filled up there's just lot of

1:05:55 ↗ overgrown vegetation it slows down the

1:06:00 ↗ outflow so once it slows down

1:06:03 ↗ everything's backs up it's just like a

1:06:05 ↗ traffic you have an accident everything

1:06:07 ↗ backs up you can start from the tail end

1:06:11 ↗ and say there's accident here no

1:06:12 ↗ accident is not here this is where the

1:06:14 ↗ car stopped the accident is right here

1:06:16 ↗ way in the

1:06:18 ↗ front I know some of about construction

1:06:21 ↗ I don't think is a big big thing but it

1:06:24 ↗ is not the responsibility of the city

1:06:26 ↗ that is within the wash dot uh um uh

1:06:31 ↗ area of responsibility or uh US

1:06:33 ↗ Department of Transportation because

1:06:35 ↗ it's a culvert on their the road and

1:06:37 ↗ city has a maybe agreement with them a

1:06:40 ↗ contract for them to clean up and take

1:06:42 ↗ the debris away keep things clean and

1:06:44 ↗ flowing well once you don't clean things

1:06:46 ↗ things don't flow that's really what

1:06:48 ↗ happens so I having said that before I

1:06:51 ↗ turn over to my consultant to address

1:06:54 ↗ address the issue of planting and maybe

1:06:56 ↗ the flow I will open myself to any

1:06:59 ↗ question the Commissioners may

1:07:02 ↗ have well I hear none that's

1:07:05 ↗ nice may

1:07:10 ↗ I oh okay

1:07:14 ↗ okay oh yeah we were actually going to

1:07:16 ↗ call for uh staff rebuttal after the

1:07:19 ↗ applicants rebuttal but if you have

1:07:21 ↗ something to add at this point that's

1:07:22 ↗ fine yes

1:07:25 ↗ I was just going to clarify just so

1:07:29 ↗ everybody's aware as far as the

1:07:30 ↗ plantings go um staff is it's a public

1:07:33 ↗ works project the CT so staff is aware

1:07:35 ↗ that the CT is happening and has been

1:07:36 ↗ coordinating with that from the

1:07:37 ↗ beginning so the as part of after the

1:07:40 ↗ land use permit when the construction

1:07:41 ↗ permits come in one of the permits is a

1:07:43 ↗ landscape permit um which specifies

1:07:45 ↗ exactly where the plantings are going

1:07:46 ↗ and what kind and um we will be

1:07:49 ↗ coordinating with public works on that

1:07:51 ↗ in terms of the parking or sorry

1:07:54 ↗ planting not

1:07:57 ↗ parking if you had more to add I just

1:07:59 ↗ wanted to make sure that they knew this

1:08:01 ↗ the

1:08:02 ↗ stuff sure so coordination is

1:08:18 ↗ happen thanks and please introduce

1:08:20 ↗ yourself my name is Eva Parker I'm ch

1:08:23 ↗ from tsia Consultants I represent

1:08:26 ↗ environmental

1:08:27 ↗ planners um Miss Marsh brought up the

1:08:30 ↗ issues of um the Overflow of Schneider

1:08:34 ↗ Creek and the starm water systems that

1:08:36 ↗ contribute to um that overflow of

1:08:39 ↗ Schneider and I just wanted to

1:08:42 ↗ uh acknowledge that the Overflow is

1:08:47 ↗ occurring off the site it's north of the

1:08:51 ↗ applicant's uh proposal site and the um

1:08:55 ↗ concerns that we have when we reviewed

1:08:59 ↗ the area and my my team was responsible

1:09:03 ↗ for um the environmental Consulting on

1:09:06 ↗ the Anthology and rebel developments

1:09:08 ↗ that are north of the Milano

1:09:12 ↗ proposal we found that um the mitigation

1:09:17 ↗ area owned by wash dot um was overgrown

1:09:22 ↗ and we also found that the Culvert along

1:09:25 ↗ the I90 conveyance where Schneider Creek

1:09:28 ↗ goes to um was a congestion a point of

1:09:32 ↗ congestion um we theorize that there is

1:09:36 ↗ either blockage on the north side of the

1:09:38 ↗ Culvert of

1:09:39 ↗ I90 or that the Culver itself has some

1:09:44 ↗ um blockages within within the Culver

1:09:47 ↗ itself but it is a bottleneck at that

1:09:49 ↗ point which contributes to um some of

1:09:51 ↗ the flooding that goes on North of um

1:09:55 ↗ the

1:09:56 ↗ Milano I just wanted to add that in

1:10:05 ↗ there thank you does the applicant have

1:10:08 ↗ any more

1:10:11 ↗ rebuttal

1:10:14 ↗ please there was a a question about the

1:10:18 ↗ uh the storm water thing I don't know if

1:10:20 ↗ my engineer is online or not not if he

1:10:25 ↗ is he's charging me he better

1:10:27 ↗ talk are you there

1:10:30 ↗ Michael he's here one second

1:10:39 ↗ okay Michael you are here you should see

1:10:41 ↗ the option to unmute and you may turn on

1:10:43 ↗ your video If you so

1:10:51 ↗ choose good evening

1:10:57 ↗ we can see and hear you go ahead my name

1:11:01 ↗ is Mel Moody I am a licensed

1:11:03 ↗ professional engineer in the state of

1:11:05 ↗ Washington Oregon Idaho Colorado and

1:11:08 ↗ Texas also lead accredited professional

1:11:11 ↗ a certified Rosen and siment control

1:11:13 ↗ lead and also a qualified preparer of

1:11:15 ↗ storm water pollution prevention plans

1:11:17 ↗ in Texas and a qualified compliance

1:11:20 ↗ inspector of storm water in Texas I'm

1:11:22 ↗ the project engineer for for this

1:11:24 ↗ particular project and I was just going

1:11:25 ↗ to speak briefly to the overall storw

1:11:28 ↗ management for the project as we've

1:11:30 ↗ heard the the project is required to

1:11:32 ↗ comply with the the

1:11:34 ↗ 2019 Department of ecology stor Water

1:11:37 ↗ Management manual for Western Washington

1:11:40 ↗ as well as the

1:11:41 ↗ 2022 city of isqua addendum to this uh

1:11:45 ↗ surface water design manual so what's

1:11:47 ↗ interesting about this case though that

1:11:50 ↗ in in those manuals we are required to

1:11:53 ↗ begin with a pre-developed condition

1:11:55 ↗ that is fully forested and then the

1:11:57 ↗ post-develop condition in our design

1:12:00 ↗ from a a flow control excuse me FL

1:12:02 ↗ control perspective must uh comply with

1:12:05 ↗ the standards of that so we we

1:12:07 ↗ essentially cannot exceed from half of

1:12:10 ↗ the 2-year storm through the the 50-year

1:12:13 ↗ storm the the durations uh the flow Peak

1:12:17 ↗ so we're we're metering the water as it

1:12:18 ↗ comes out to Historic Site conditions

1:12:22 ↗ today the site is mostly open uh has

1:12:25 ↗ some impervious on it and so the

1:12:26 ↗ hydrologic response of the site today is

1:12:29 ↗ actually more than what the post-develop

1:12:33 ↗ condition will will provide because it

1:12:35 ↗ it matches the pre-developed historic

1:12:38 ↗ condition I just wanted to make that

1:12:40 ↗ that point and from water quality

1:12:42 ↗ treatment perspective we're required to

1:12:44 ↗ provide enhanced basic treatment which

1:12:47 ↗ we remove in so the basic treatment

1:12:50 ↗ removes total suspended solids that

1:12:52 ↗ sediment

1:12:54 ↗ the enhanced portion removes copper and

1:12:56 ↗ zinc and then it also is required for

1:12:59 ↗ phosphorus removal that is a nutrient

1:13:02 ↗ and downstream systems are sensitive to

1:13:03 ↗ that so this project proposes uh full

1:13:06 ↗ compliance with all of

1:13:14 ↗ that thank you do you have any further

1:13:16 ↗ rebuttal

1:13:21 ↗ applicant Michael went over real fast

1:13:24 ↗ but I I like to rerun the words that he

1:13:28 ↗ said postd development we have less

1:13:31 ↗ runoff than pre-development I just want

1:13:34 ↗ to make that clear post-development we

1:13:36 ↗ have less runoff than

1:13:39 ↗ pre-development so that's as an

1:13:41 ↗ improvement not only in terms of the

1:13:43 ↗ volume of water but also in terms of

1:13:46 ↗ water quality enhancement removing heavy

1:13:49 ↗ metals uh and SS you know suspended

1:13:53 ↗ material that actually harm the life of

1:13:56 ↗ fish and wild animals in the area thank

1:13:59 ↗ you any

1:14:03 ↗ questions all right thank you does staff

1:14:05 ↗ have any rebuttal to the comments that

1:14:07 ↗ were made during public comment

1:14:19 ↗ period okay thank you

1:14:21 ↗ Commissioners do we have any objections

1:14:23 ↗ to closing the public hearing at this

1:14:28 ↗ point hearing no objections I now close

1:14:31 ↗ the public hearing at 7:44

1:14:37 ↗ p.m. now it's time to move on into

1:14:39 ↗ deliberation portion of the meeting any

1:14:41 ↗ discussion

1:14:47 ↗ Commissioners we can ask some questions

1:14:49 ↗ now staff commissioner Morgan thank you

1:14:54 ↗ um just one quick thing on the

1:14:57 ↗ conditions uh conditions 17 and

1:15:00 ↗ 25 that had to do with the

1:15:03 ↗ decommissioning it look like the

1:15:06 ↗ same um condition to me and I just want

1:15:09 ↗ to make sure I wasn't missing something

1:15:12 ↗ about why one would be different than

1:15:15 ↗ the

1:15:22 ↗ other

1:15:23 ↗ um that is an engineering condition but

1:15:26 ↗ just looking at it looks like one is for

1:15:27 ↗ the decommissioning of the septic system

1:15:30 ↗ and one is for the decommissioning of

1:15:32 ↗ the well on site oh great thank you

1:15:37 ↗ um and then a question I guess the one

1:15:40 ↗ of the questions I thought was the

1:15:41 ↗ steepness of the the driveway the street

1:15:45 ↗ from

1:15:46 ↗ Newport um is I presume the garbage

1:15:50 ↗ company's been consulted

1:15:51 ↗ on the streets and getting in and out

1:15:54 ↗ and

1:15:55 ↗ design uh we consult or the applicant is

1:15:59 ↗ required to consult with rology and

1:16:00 ↗ rology has specific standards and

1:16:02 ↗ specifications that have to be met um in

1:16:04 ↗ order for it to be approved

1:16:07 ↗ right um and I uh I guess one of the

1:16:13 ↗ questions on the storm water design so

1:16:14 ↗ forth the bird cage that's mentioned uh

1:16:17 ↗ that was brought up and an issue it

1:16:20 ↗ looked to me like in looking at the the

1:16:22 ↗ storm drainage report that bird cage is

1:16:25 ↗ offsite from this

1:16:27 ↗ property and not included and then this

1:16:30 ↗ property would dist storm water would be

1:16:32 ↗ uh retained in the vault and released

1:16:35 ↗ and so forth so in terms of the question

1:16:37 ↗ of the bird cage that's not really an

1:16:39 ↗ issue on this property itself it is

1:16:42 ↗ offsite correct um we do have our

1:16:44 ↗ engineering manager online if she has

1:16:46 ↗ anything to add but I think I think that

1:16:48 ↗ answers your question it's offsite and

1:16:51 ↗ this and the this system would not

1:16:53 ↗ make that problem worse I guess if it's

1:16:56 ↗ a if it's a problem Emily I'm going to

1:16:59 ↗ throw that to you she's our engineering

1:17:01 ↗ manager Emily Appleton thank

1:17:05 ↗ you good evening I'm Emily Appleton I

1:17:08 ↗ manage the engineering group with the

1:17:09 ↗ city of isqua and my staff have reviewed

1:17:13 ↗ the storm water technical information

1:17:16 ↗ report and the proposed storm water

1:17:18 ↗ design and um under

1:17:22 ↗ the let's see where do I want to start

1:17:25 ↗ well the storm water um regulations

1:17:27 ↗ require that that any storm water flows

1:17:30 ↗ be manage so they don't create or

1:17:33 ↗ exacerbate any Downstream issues and so

1:17:36 ↗ the city staff has reviewed that

1:17:38 ↗ Downstream analysis and the storm water

1:17:41 ↗ design does comply with the adopted

1:17:43 ↗ storm water regulations so this this

1:17:47 ↗ design is in compliance with with all

1:17:49 ↗ the regulations that we have and it it

1:17:51 ↗ is not anticipated to exacerbate or or

1:17:55 ↗ cause any Downstream issues great thank

1:17:58 ↗ you follow up on that um so I understand

1:18:03 ↗ this project

1:18:04 ↗ is for the calculations decreasing storm

1:18:07 ↗ water to this outfall has the city

1:18:09 ↗ investigated that outfall is there an

1:18:11 ↗ issue there is there erosion happening

1:18:15 ↗ currently I'm uh which outlow you were

1:18:19 ↗ outow at the bird cage oh at the bird

1:18:22 ↗ cage

1:18:25 ↗ um I know we've done site visits and I

1:18:28 ↗ guess I would have to defer to the

1:18:29 ↗ applicant for the most recent site visit

1:18:31 ↗ but we would be looking at that as the

1:18:33 ↗ design progresses from the preliminarily

1:18:36 ↗ proposed design which we reviewed under

1:18:38 ↗ this uh site development permit

1:18:40 ↗ application as it progresses to the

1:18:42 ↗ final design for the construction

1:18:44 ↗ permits there's additional review that

1:18:46 ↗ would occur and uh staff would make sure

1:18:49 ↗ that all the all the um regulations are

1:18:52 ↗ met and if there's any erosion issues

1:18:54 ↗ happening we would address it at that

1:18:56 ↗ time and because it's offsite is this

1:18:59 ↗ project allowed to touch that area or

1:19:02 ↗ make improvements there I

1:19:05 ↗ believe and I I may want to verify this

1:19:07 ↗ and and uh confirm but I believe there's

1:19:11 ↗ a storm water easement that goes on both

1:19:14 ↗ of the properties and that's where this

1:19:16 ↗ uh the bird cage is and there's a a

1:19:18 ↗ joint easement there that both

1:19:20 ↗ properties are

1:19:21 ↗ sharing okay thank you other

1:19:25 ↗ Commissioners

1:19:27 ↗ question I have a couple more if that's

1:19:29 ↗ okay um commissioner Morgan please

1:19:31 ↗ continue okay um

1:19:35 ↗ the question on on the the Urban Design

1:19:38 ↗ review

1:19:39 ↗ checklist um and going through some of

1:19:42 ↗ those the

1:19:45 ↗ um the Sid checklist in some cases where

1:19:49 ↗ they it said it met stand well like for

1:19:51 ↗ example 5.3 the density bonus does meet

1:19:54 ↗ standards yes building is exceeding base

1:19:59 ↗ f um and then conditions required it's

1:20:02 ↗ not checked so is it if it exceeds F

1:20:06 ↗ does it is there a condition that

1:20:07 ↗ requires that that so for 5.3 it's

1:20:11 ↗ there's not really a standard in that

1:20:13 ↗ one to be met but I'm saying yes it

1:20:15 ↗ meets the standard uh in terms of it's

1:20:18 ↗ exceeding the base F and the height so

1:20:20 ↗ it does require density bonus program

1:20:23 ↗ that that's a little bit of a convoluted

1:20:24 ↗ because it's it's the beginning of the

1:20:26 ↗ chapter so there's not not really a

1:20:28 ↗ standard there but the purpose of the

1:20:30 ↗ yes there was to say yes the supplies

1:20:32 ↗ they need they're required to use the

1:20:33 ↗ density bonus program okay but and we

1:20:37 ↗ don't consider that a condition just

1:20:38 ↗ part of the correct that's just that's

1:20:41 ↗ just a yeah just required standard got

1:20:44 ↗ it okay um and the and there were a few

1:20:48 ↗ in there I know it' be interesting at

1:20:50 ↗ some point if if I think for the

1:20:52 ↗ Commissioners to understand this

1:20:53 ↗ checklist better outside of this project

1:20:56 ↗ it would be interesting to go through

1:20:58 ↗ some educational process for us too so

1:21:00 ↗ sure it's actually might be the last

1:21:02 ↗ time you see this checklist um because

1:21:04 ↗ SIDS is no longer used this Project's

1:21:07 ↗ vested to it okay historical one then um

1:21:12 ↗ well in um and then speaking of Sid

1:21:14 ↗ review one of the issues that I have uh

1:21:17 ↗ has to do with with blank walls um and

1:21:20 ↗ in SIDS and I remember where I have it

1:21:23 ↗ marked but

1:21:26 ↗ um the standard

1:21:29 ↗ for

1:21:30 ↗ [Music]

1:21:36 ↗ um uh

1:21:38 ↗ 14.2 in general standards avoid blank

1:21:41 ↗ walls especially when adjacent to

1:21:43 ↗ circulation facilities I think you might

1:21:45 ↗ have touched on your presentation about

1:21:47 ↗ vegetation and so forth but when I look

1:21:51 ↗ at the the garage garage walls

1:21:54 ↗ especially the garage walls from down by

1:21:56 ↗ the uh pedestrian connection or through

1:21:58 ↗ block passage to me those look like

1:22:00 ↗ blank walls and I don't know if you're

1:22:02 ↗ able are you able to pull up any of

1:22:05 ↗ the the floor

1:22:07 ↗ plans see how fast I can find the

1:22:09 ↗ landscape plan well it wouldn't be in

1:22:12 ↗ the landscape plan it would be in the um

1:22:14 ↗ part part of the reason it's in the

1:22:15 ↗ landscape plan is because so if you're

1:22:17 ↗ looking at the architectural rendering

1:22:19 ↗ it's not going to show the plantings in

1:22:20 ↗ front of the wall it's showing the but

1:22:22 ↗ there's Tre trees being planted in it

1:22:24 ↗ yeah so I don't know that the intent of

1:22:27 ↗ this requirement is that you can cover

1:22:30 ↗ blank walls with vegetation because in

1:22:33 ↗ the future vegetation can always be cut

1:22:36 ↗ down taken down and so forth I don't I

1:22:40 ↗ think the the intent has always been

1:22:41 ↗ that we don't have blank walls and that

1:22:44 ↗ you treat it with techniques such as

1:22:46 ↗ Piers modulation detailing materials

1:22:49 ↗ texture art trellis things like that

1:22:52 ↗ doesn't say you can have a blank wall

1:22:56 ↗ and cover it up with Landscaping in

1:22:58 ↗ front of it and so I guess

1:23:01 ↗ I'm I guess my thought would be I'm not

1:23:04 ↗ sure what other Commissioners think but

1:23:06 ↗ I would want to have some kind of

1:23:08 ↗ condition that those blank walls would

1:23:09 ↗ be have to be addressed other than just

1:23:11 ↗ with

1:23:13 ↗ Landscaping uh yes the the black wall uh

1:23:18 ↗ uh is in the quote we're not supposed to

1:23:20 ↗ have a black wall we know that so what

1:23:22 ↗ we have here it's uh it might look like

1:23:25 ↗ a blank hole but it's not what we

1:23:27 ↗ actually have done we try to mimic the

1:23:30 ↗ look of the residential areas done at

1:23:33 ↗ the concrete level so you have Windows

1:23:36 ↗ uh it may not show here but that's what

1:23:38 ↗ it is we have number of Windows uh which

1:23:41 ↗ are used for ventilation but it's uh

1:23:44 ↗ it's uh it's supposed to cut away from

1:23:47 ↗ that blank wall further we have uh uh

1:23:51 ↗ green screen GRE so they are uh there

1:23:55 ↗ are actually um like a meshlike

1:23:58 ↗ structures metal structures actually

1:24:01 ↗ artistically

1:24:02 ↗ oriented uh attached to the wall and not

1:24:06 ↗ necessarily as full with uh Vines and

1:24:09 ↗ IVs and things like that but also is a

1:24:12 ↗ form of art uh we actually have a a uh

1:24:17 ↗ we have uh we have proposed um um

1:24:20 ↗ sculptures of fish salmon in particular

1:24:24 ↗ and show them in a nice Harmony so it's

1:24:27 ↗ it would be an entertaining wall it

1:24:29 ↗ would be educational there educational

1:24:31 ↗ signs across from the wall that

1:24:34 ↗ describing the life of the salmon so

1:24:37 ↗ it's we done everything we can to uh cut

1:24:41 ↗ away or remove the negative effects of a

1:24:44 ↗ blank wall and not to have blank

1:24:47 ↗ wall I guess I'm sorry that what we're

1:24:49 ↗ seeing in the plans shows blank walls uh

1:24:53 ↗ yeah well if you look at page

1:24:56 ↗ 13 he's talking about the this wall over

1:24:59 ↗ here the garage uh sorry commissioner I

1:25:02 ↗ was able to find the reference that I

1:25:03 ↗ was scrambling for when I was doing it

1:25:05 ↗ um so 14.2 is taken in conjunction with

1:25:09 ↗ 10.9 in SIDS which is requirements for

1:25:12 ↗ blank walls and retaining walls um which

1:25:15 ↗ allows for landscape to be used to um

1:25:18 ↗ enhance the blank wall so Tak an in

1:25:22 ↗ context of the larger SIDS that's where

1:25:23 ↗ we are looking at the Landscaping

1:25:25 ↗ screening part of the blank wall along

1:25:28 ↗ with what the applicant has said

1:25:31 ↗ okay thank you I guess I'm still not

1:25:33 ↗ satisfied because I like I said

1:25:36 ↗ Landscaping put in and taken down down

1:25:38 ↗ the road and nobody knows you have a

1:25:40 ↗ blank wall but um and then um a question

1:25:45 ↗ I and 14.3 building mass and

1:25:49 ↗ design in the setback buildings with

1:25:51 ↗ Heights of over three stories through

1:25:53 ↗ changes in building materials

1:25:54 ↗ articulation modulation that differs

1:25:56 ↗ from the first three floors this is more

1:25:58 ↗ of a I guess a theoretical question in a

1:26:01 ↗ way that um because there is that

1:26:03 ↗ tripartite design and that fourth floor

1:26:07 ↗ does change materials and I'm just

1:26:09 ↗ curious to your thought about where it

1:26:10 ↗ says set

1:26:12 ↗ back um so it almost sounds like you

1:26:15 ↗ should step back that top that floor

1:26:17 ↗ above but it really just talks about

1:26:20 ↗ things like articulation I presume that

1:26:21 ↗ you felt it met that requirement then

1:26:24 ↗ yes staff did feel it met that

1:26:26 ↗ requirement um it doesn't require the

1:26:28 ↗ building to be stepped back um if it's

1:26:31 ↗ over three stories um and the like you

1:26:34 ↗ said the tripart articulation um is how

1:26:38 ↗ stff felt that was meant it's a strange

1:26:39 ↗ language where it says set back

1:26:41 ↗ buildings with Heights over three floors

1:26:43 ↗ yes it's a it's a little confusing yeah

1:26:46 ↗ thank you um and then the other question

1:26:49 ↗ I had is on the the um through block

1:26:54 ↗ passage or pedestrian connection which

1:26:58 ↗ one do we consider that to be uh this is

1:27:01 ↗ a three block passage okay it's a

1:27:04 ↗ primary through block passage okay and

1:27:07 ↗ then when I was reading about on through

1:27:09 ↗ block passages I guess um at one point

1:27:13 ↗ it says that they're not allowed if I my

1:27:18 ↗ main question is is do we need

1:27:20 ↗ that um

1:27:24 ↗ sorry the I can find this

1:27:28 ↗ again I might have to come back to it

1:27:31 ↗ but the the discussion of through block

1:27:33 ↗ passage in in

1:27:36 ↗ um the

1:27:41 ↗ code I think it's

1:27:46 ↗ 18702 in

1:27:48 ↗ 18702

1:27:51 ↗ 40

1:27:54 ↗ um and one thing says a through block

1:27:56 ↗ passage may not be constructed if the

1:27:58 ↗ location terminates at an alley or Dead

1:28:00 ↗ End Street where there's no possibility

1:28:02 ↗ for future development or adversely

1:28:05 ↗ impact critical areas and Associated

1:28:07 ↗ buffers on or immediately adjacent to

1:28:10 ↗ the site it it it sounds to me like it's

1:28:13 ↗ written as if we don't want through

1:28:15 ↗ block passages that would um adversely

1:28:19 ↗ impact a critical area or a buffer

1:28:22 ↗ and we're actually reducing the size of

1:28:24 ↗ this buffer in order to put in a through

1:28:26 ↗ block passage um you're referencing new

1:28:29 ↗ code which is not in effect for this

1:28:31 ↗ project so the through block passage is

1:28:33 ↗ from SIDS for this project but okay

1:28:37 ↗ appreciate the eagle eyes for future

1:28:40 ↗ projects okay thank you sorry about all

1:28:44 ↗ the

1:28:46 ↗ questions any other questions

1:28:50 ↗ Commissioners commissioner gber I have a

1:28:53 ↗ question um I know this is a really

1:28:56 ↗ complicated site and it's a really Wide

1:28:58 ↗ building and I appreciate the effort

1:29:01 ↗ made to try to segment the facades and

1:29:05 ↗ to segments and to emphasize the

1:29:07 ↗ vertical and I think that's one of the

1:29:09 ↗ requirements of the Northwest Revival

1:29:11 ↗ style according to the chapter title

1:29:14 ↗ 18 um and I think for the most part the

1:29:17 ↗ style is coming across on the facades

1:29:20 ↗ but at the edge of the building is that

1:29:23 ↗ a glass curtain wall that I see along

1:29:25 ↗ that front front

1:29:30 ↗ facade me one second while I look at the

1:29:33 ↗ plans at what you're talking about here

1:29:35 ↗ because the title 18 requires deeply

1:29:38 ↗ punched window openings for this and so

1:29:40 ↗ I think when I look at that um the

1:29:44 ↗ intent of this style is not

1:29:49 ↗ conveyed at least it's not through the

1:29:53 ↗ elevation uh if I can share my screen

1:29:56 ↗ here make sure we're talking about the

1:29:58 ↗ same

1:30:07 ↗ thing talking about this oh oh this one

1:30:10 ↗ on this corner here yeah that's is that

1:30:13 ↗ a curtain wall so by our take on it is

1:30:17 ↗ it's that the windows are punched in

1:30:20 ↗ behind the wall on the corner so it it

1:30:22 ↗ is glass down the side but the punched

1:30:25 ↗ in windows are along the whole um the

1:30:28 ↗ whole facade

1:30:30 ↗ so that staff's interpretation um is

1:30:33 ↗ that it meets that

1:30:38 ↗ code I mean if you look at the the style

1:30:41 ↗ manual and the design guidelines um the

1:30:45 ↗ the punched window openings they're more

1:30:47 ↗ like this is I guess it's more

1:30:50 ↗ distinct

1:31:08 ↗ so a staff's interpretation it meets it

1:31:10 ↗ but the Commissioners you guys are the

1:31:13 ↗ deciding body so um it's up to you if

1:31:16 ↗ you want to add a condition to change

1:31:18 ↗ that and make the punched Windows if you

1:31:20 ↗ feel they don't meet code it is your

1:31:34 ↗ decision Comm

1:31:36 ↗ sure have a question about

1:31:40 ↗ um condition 10 for lighting on The

1:31:44 ↗ Pedestrian path it says right it

1:31:48 ↗ specifies that right now zero

1:31:50 ↗ is provided is there a standard for what

1:31:55 ↗ is required so right now there's uh let

1:31:58 ↗ me

1:31:59 ↗ just so there is lighting provided along

1:32:01 ↗ the through block passage but it shows

1:32:03 ↗ on the current lighting plan that

1:32:04 ↗ there's zero foot candles along the

1:32:06 ↗ through block passage which staff thinks

1:32:09 ↗ for um safety reasons there should be

1:32:11 ↗ the the there should be lighting along

1:32:14 ↗ the three block passage that illuminates

1:32:16 ↗ the through block passage um so there's

1:32:18 ↗ not an exact standard of what we have um

1:32:22 ↗ lighting level standards in section 17

1:32:24 ↗ of Sids um so and we route out to a a

1:32:28 ↗ third party lighting consultant to look

1:32:30 ↗ at our lighting plans as part of

1:32:31 ↗ construction so um that what that

1:32:34 ↗ standard is and what that best safety

1:32:36 ↗ level is um is determined by our

1:32:38 ↗ thirdparty um lighting consultant and it

1:32:41 ↗ has to

1:32:42 ↗ meet 17 it will have to meet section 17

1:32:45 ↗ I've said it's correct

1:32:50 ↗ okay

1:32:53 ↗ other

1:32:54 ↗ question missioner aada I have a

1:32:57 ↗ question for I guess the applicant um

1:32:59 ↗ looking at the Geotech report um it

1:33:02 ↗ predicts two two two to six inches of

1:33:05 ↗ settlement with a seismic event and it's

1:33:09 ↗ uh that's due to liquefaction I I guess

1:33:11 ↗ the question really is what's the design

1:33:13 ↗ event and then is it being addressed

1:33:15 ↗ with structural slabs or control joints

1:33:18 ↗ I understand uh if you uh if May

1:33:22 ↗ Commissioners I I want to go back and

1:33:24 ↗ address some of the issues on the

1:33:25 ↗ Windows uh if is that okay Mr chair um

1:33:29 ↗ if you look at the page 18 of the staff

1:33:33 ↗ report um you'll see a uh Northwest

1:33:38 ↗ Revival style example building which I

1:33:41 ↗ think is I believe is a Coleman building

1:33:43 ↗ in Downtown Seattle uh pinor square area

1:33:46 ↗ I'm a builder so there are two styles on

1:33:49 ↗ the window uh one would be a recess

1:33:52 ↗ window recess window is what you have

1:33:54 ↗ here like if you see there it's it's

1:33:57 ↗ actually sits in it has a cill and uh

1:34:01 ↗ and then you have a flush window flush

1:34:03 ↗ window is the one that actually the

1:34:04 ↗ window flange sits right on the exterior

1:34:08 ↗ of the wall uh they may have a thickness

1:34:11 ↗ of the veneer or brick on top of that

1:34:14 ↗ but that would be it so this is really

1:34:18 ↗ meant to mimic that kind of a design uh

1:34:21 ↗ for us doesn't really matter but the

1:34:23 ↗ issue did come up in the past and staff

1:34:25 ↗ directed us to do it just like this and

1:34:27 ↗ that's what we did so I hope meets your

1:34:30 ↗ satisfaction now as to issue of lighting

1:34:33 ↗ uh commissioner Morgan uh no

1:34:36 ↗ commissioner

1:34:37 ↗ IA did I say right I'm sorry you guys

1:34:40 ↗ switched over a little bit here so as

1:34:43 ↗ far as that lighting goes uh there is

1:34:46 ↗ there's a requirement in the say I don't

1:34:48 ↗ remember exactly what section because we

1:34:51 ↗ are close to a um uh critical area we

1:34:55 ↗ not supposed to have uplights basically

1:34:58 ↗ to not upser the nature so these

1:35:02 ↗ lightings you see these are Dawn lights

1:35:04 ↗ and on where is on the um pave um uh is

1:35:11 ↗ it is a on the paved area we have

1:35:14 ↗ previous pavers so we have little like

1:35:16 ↗ mushroom lights uh I mean those are

1:35:19 ↗ those are things don't show up in in in

1:35:21 ↗ the current site development plans those

1:35:23 ↗ would go in a building permit but they

1:35:25 ↗ would look like little mushroom lights

1:35:27 ↗ so it can shine light away from the

1:35:29 ↗ critical areas onto the walking areas

1:35:32 ↗ and the other side you would have some

1:35:34 ↗ kind of downlight that would have

1:35:36 ↗ actually a a cap that it would not let

1:35:38 ↗ the lights to escape into the critical

1:35:41 ↗ area so the idea is to light just the

1:35:43 ↗ floor but not not anything beyond

1:35:47 ↗ that and I guess there was another

1:35:50 ↗ question I forgot why

1:35:52 ↗ it was a question related to liquid

1:35:54 ↗ action that's correct yeah so anytime

1:35:58 ↗ you have unstable soil which we do have

1:36:01 ↗ to a certain extent here and this

1:36:04 ↗ unstable soil existed to the property to

1:36:07 ↗ the north and to the property to the

1:36:09 ↗ east the number of methods that the

1:36:12 ↗ builders use uh the the the method that

1:36:15 ↗ was used in the surrounding properties

1:36:18 ↗ is called uh ground Improvement which

1:36:21 ↗ what it is basically drill they drill uh

1:36:24 ↗ into the dirt at a certain depth

1:36:27 ↗ probably 20 ft 25 ft and those are

1:36:29 ↗ determined by the soil engineer they

1:36:32 ↗ they compact they put in crush Rock like

1:36:36 ↗ big chunks of rock it sets in so it

1:36:39 ↗ basically sets a pile it's kind of like

1:36:41 ↗ AAS pile there we have concrete except

1:36:44 ↗ this is soil so the entire building and

1:36:48 ↗ some of the retaining walls sits on

1:36:51 ↗ improve which are basically piles so

1:36:54 ↗ those are the ones that going to be

1:36:55 ↗ supporting the weight of the building

1:36:57 ↗ and supports it by means of fraction it

1:37:00 ↗ doesn't sit on any kind of hard

1:37:04 ↗ bed thank you thank

1:37:07 ↗ you any questions additional questions

1:37:11 ↗ comments M

1:37:13 ↗ Brennan thank you Mr chair uh just a

1:37:15 ↗ couple quick questions Mr I Stone I

1:37:19 ↗ still would like it up here you know

1:37:22 ↗ you have our answer um so the staff

1:37:27 ↗ report talks about for the F density

1:37:30 ↗ bonus you need to adjust the

1:37:32 ↗ affordability of the affordable housing

1:37:34 ↗ units right um so going to two at 50%

1:37:38 ↗ Ami I just want to make sure that

1:37:40 ↗ doesn't create an economic issue for

1:37:42 ↗ this project that says got to go back to

1:37:44 ↗ you know there's I tell you here I love

1:37:47 ↗ isqua there's a love in isqua I lose

1:37:49 ↗ that doesn't matter it's fine it's not

1:37:51 ↗ not a the way I read the code I thought

1:37:54 ↗ I followed it precisely but she knows

1:37:57 ↗ better than that me so if she says so I

1:38:00 ↗ Surrender

1:38:01 ↗ okay uh thank you for that that's

1:38:04 ↗ helpful um there's uh also discussion uh

1:38:09 ↗ in the staff report and there been many

1:38:12 ↗ points made here tonight about storm

1:38:13 ↗ drainage and that there's still work to

1:38:15 ↗ be done um to finalize the storm

1:38:18 ↗ drainage plan for the project are we

1:38:21 ↗ talking about details or are we talking

1:38:23 ↗ about things that could have site

1:38:25 ↗ implications as far as the layout um I I

1:38:30 ↗ I think the issue of storm drainage

1:38:31 ↗ commissioner Brandon right yes

1:38:33 ↗ commissioner Brandon the issue of storm

1:38:35 ↗ drainage came up we don't have really a

1:38:37 ↗ design problem you have a maintenance

1:38:40 ↗ problem uh that's what we had

1:38:43 ↗ the this the Fufu happened uh and I was

1:38:48 ↗ there I looked at it on two or three

1:38:51 ↗ occasions and when you have your

1:38:55 ↗ basically uh water outfall or creek or

1:38:59 ↗ whatever like that clogged with

1:39:01 ↗ vegetation trees things well things

1:39:03 ↗ don't flow and and uh this just she got

1:39:08 ↗ to fix the maintenance and and I think

1:39:09 ↗ she was right the maintenance is

1:39:11 ↗ something that is not done right uh I

1:39:14 ↗ believe that's but that's not CA I don't

1:39:17 ↗ think you have maintenance off that I

1:39:18 ↗ think that's the wash dot you may have a

1:39:21 ↗ contract with wash do to but you got to

1:39:23 ↗ call him say go clean that up cuz he

1:39:25 ↗ fixed on

1:39:27 ↗ streams yes

1:39:31 ↗ please when the other Emily the

1:39:34 ↗ engineering Emily um was mentioning that

1:39:37 ↗ it's preliminary design I think that's

1:39:39 ↗ what you're asking about yes correct yes

1:39:41 ↗ so um essentially at land use permit

1:39:44 ↗ level engineering designs are

1:39:47 ↗ technically preliminary designs that are

1:39:49 ↗ fine-tuned and made exact as part of the

1:39:52 ↗ construction permitting so that's what

1:39:54 ↗ she was referencing it it wouldn't be a

1:39:56 ↗ complete overhaul or change it's just

1:39:58 ↗ the finalization of the storm water

1:40:00 ↗ design as part of the construction

1:40:02 ↗ permit thank you um one one more

1:40:05 ↗ question I guess I also struggled a

1:40:07 ↗ little bit with some of the elevations

1:40:08 ↗ trying to interpret uh some of the uh

1:40:12 ↗ drawings um the frontage um interface

1:40:16 ↗ along Newport Way and then the sidewalk

1:40:20 ↗ what's the condition can you describe

1:40:22 ↗ what that condition if you're walking

1:40:24 ↗ down the sidewalk what's the

1:40:26 ↗ EXP uh I will I'm not an architect but I

1:40:29 ↗ will do my best to paint you a picture

1:40:31 ↗ so as required by code um as uh the

1:40:34 ↗ applicant mentioned we have a build to

1:40:36 ↗ line um in this part of Central isqua so

1:40:39 ↗ the max it can be from the sidewalk is

1:40:41 ↗ 15 ft um and we do that because we want

1:40:44 ↗ The Pedestrian experience we don't want

1:40:46 ↗ just vast parking lots or whatever um

1:40:49 ↗ next to our sidewalks so on Newport Way

1:40:52 ↗ when you're walking down it um if you're

1:40:54 ↗ looking to your left at the building you

1:40:56 ↗ won't be able to see the parking

1:40:57 ↗ structure it will be below grade so what

1:40:59 ↗ you're seeing is um this first level

1:41:02 ↗ that has walkways up into the units with

1:41:05 ↗ punched in doors and windows um and that

1:41:08 ↗ first level is the the bottom of the

1:41:10 ↗ triart expression that's the darker gray

1:41:14 ↗ um and then it goes up into the

1:41:15 ↗ buildings um and then when you walk all

1:41:18 ↗ the way down you'll pass the building a

1:41:20 ↗ little bit and then you'll be able to go

1:41:22 ↗ onto the through block passage that has

1:41:24 ↗ all the landscaping and like the green

1:41:26 ↗ wall and the salon art and such that he

1:41:30 ↗ uh

1:41:32 ↗ referenced okay and so the and there are

1:41:36 ↗ stairs that lead up to the entries of

1:41:38 ↗ the units is that the case so I believe

1:41:42 ↗ not

1:41:44 ↗ yes um I I did see I I Mr Crum mentioned

1:41:48 ↗ that the blank wall that Mr Morgan is

1:41:50 ↗ referring to at the garage that there

1:41:52 ↗ were openings I can looking at an

1:41:54 ↗ elevation it looks like there might be

1:41:55 ↗ something there but they're not very

1:41:56 ↗ well depicted that's so

1:42:02 ↗ yeah think a great idea some uh green

1:42:06 ↗ screens there uh I think we can uh it

1:42:10 ↗ just there's always room for improvement

1:42:12 ↗ I'd be okay to that I I mean there's so

1:42:15 ↗ many things that you just don't see it

1:42:18 ↗ just somebody got to bring it up W what

1:42:20 ↗ what I IDE I like that I like that uh

1:42:25 ↗ Madam staff what do we just add some

1:42:26 ↗ green screen there we can put some green

1:42:29 ↗ screen there which is easy doesn't cost

1:42:31 ↗ much and I think it would take away from

1:42:33 ↗ that concrete look entirely thank

1:42:37 ↗ you um as with the windows same same

1:42:41 ↗ same rules apply it's your decision so

1:42:43 ↗ um if you if you all believe that it

1:42:46 ↗ needs better screening beyond the

1:42:47 ↗ Landscaping in case um Landscaping is

1:42:50 ↗ required to to have uh bonding to make

1:42:52 ↗ sure that it lives and remains but that

1:42:55 ↗ expires eventually so if Commissioners

1:42:57 ↗ wish to see more architectural elements

1:42:58 ↗ green screen um we can add a condition

1:43:01 ↗ to the permit um we just make it a

1:43:04 ↗ specific condition of what you would

1:43:06 ↗ like to see commissioner Bren if you

1:43:08 ↗ mind if I jump into because I did go

1:43:09 ↗ back and read 10.9 and SIDS and it says

1:43:13 ↗ um in addition to building design

1:43:16 ↗ landscape may be required to

1:43:17 ↗ additionally enhance a blank wall I

1:43:20 ↗ think

1:43:21 ↗ it can't just be Landscaping it has to

1:43:22 ↗ be an addition to building design so I

1:43:24 ↗ think the idea of adding to condition

1:43:26 ↗ about screening and so forth will be a

1:43:30 ↗ great idea thank you what is the

1:43:32 ↗ duration of the landscape

1:43:38 ↗ Bond five five

1:43:44 ↗ years other questions

1:43:48 ↗ comments I have a couple first staff I'm

1:43:52 ↗ sorry go ahead commissioner Morgan go

1:43:54 ↗ one more comment actually suggestion I

1:43:56 ↗ love the idea of the art that you're

1:43:58 ↗ talking about adding and I would suggest

1:44:00 ↗ isquad does have an Arts commission and

1:44:03 ↗ it would be wonderful if you contacted

1:44:05 ↗ them about local artists and their

1:44:07 ↗ ability to help with a project thank you

1:44:11 ↗ commissioner Morgan did you want to

1:44:13 ↗ propose a condition regarding the blank

1:44:15 ↗ wall at this

1:44:16 ↗ point uh will I do when we now or when

1:44:20 ↗ we have the main motion you can either

1:44:22 ↗ do it now or when we have the main

1:44:25 ↗ motion all

1:44:28 ↗ right a couple of questions for staff I

1:44:32 ↗ guess excuse me first of all uh I wonder

1:44:35 ↗ what is on the roof now I I guess we're

1:44:39 ↗ seeing a couple of stairwell exits up

1:44:41 ↗ there is there air conditioning as well

1:44:44 ↗ I think when we met before we were

1:44:45 ↗ talking about solar up there uh we're

1:44:48 ↗ discussing roof rooftop use

1:44:51 ↗ so I'd like to understand more about

1:44:53 ↗ what is what's up on the roof sure

1:44:54 ↗ there's me mechanical units like you

1:44:56 ↗ would expect and there's also a rooftop

1:44:58 ↗ um community space that is depicted in

1:45:01 ↗ one of these land sheets that I'm

1:45:04 ↗ looking for um which includes seating um

1:45:07 ↗ and tables and I think fire tables if

1:45:10 ↗ I'm remembering correctly or maybe I'm

1:45:12 ↗ maybe I'm confusing my projects

1:45:15 ↗ but yeah there there's U community space

1:45:18 ↗ amenities so that um it can be utilized

1:45:21 ↗ by the residents of the

1:45:22 ↗ building okay uh solar we were talking I

1:45:25 ↗ think about solar panels originally is

1:45:27 ↗ that still part of this design yes okay

1:45:32 ↗ and in terms of if there's riop use in

1:45:35 ↗ terms of safety what's the railing or

1:45:38 ↗ whatever there is a railing um along the

1:45:41 ↗ rooftop and uh I can't I I can't speak

1:45:44 ↗ off the top of my head exactly what the

1:45:45 ↗ safety requirements are but our building

1:45:47 ↗ official as part of the building permits

1:45:49 ↗ will make sure it meets um IRC standards

1:45:52 ↗ okay that that isn't shown in any of the

1:45:54 ↗ drawings really is

1:45:57 ↗ it or maybe I missed it it is

1:46:05 ↗ yeah actually we do

1:46:07 ↗ have uh it requires a 42 inch high uh

1:46:11 ↗ guard rail so and we have it basically

1:46:14 ↗ around all the public areas it's guarded

1:46:19 ↗ so you cannot go outside uh because you

1:46:23 ↗ could be you know you know interfering

1:46:26 ↗ with the solar or could do damage to

1:46:28 ↗ yourself or to the equipment so public

1:46:31 ↗ areas are surrounded by uh uh 42 in tall

1:46:36 ↗ guard rail which is required with the

1:46:37 ↗ IBC okay great and so that's separated

1:46:40 ↗ from the solar yes so you cannot enter

1:46:43 ↗ the staff is probably have a little loog

1:46:45 ↗ pad lock or something that staff could

1:46:46 ↗ enter but it's not for the public to

1:46:48 ↗ enter okay

1:46:52 ↗ okay thank

1:46:54 ↗ you and my other question had to do with

1:46:57 ↗ parking um we've heard a lot about it

1:46:59 ↗ from the community uh we have 65 units

1:47:02 ↗ and

1:47:03 ↗ 53 parking

1:47:05 ↗ spaces so uh smaller number was required

1:47:09 ↗ so we're really uh tier one is this tier

1:47:13 ↗ one parking I assume that is that is the

1:47:15 ↗ new title 18 code that has the

1:47:18 ↗ tiar okay

1:47:20 ↗ so under the code that this is vested

1:47:25 ↗ to uh what was the permissible range of

1:47:28 ↗ ratio in that we see in the new code

1:47:32 ↗ it's 75 to2 per unit and

1:47:37 ↗ we're on the very restrictive end here

1:47:41 ↗ and I see that the staff report says

1:47:43 ↗ that the parking standards are based on

1:47:45 ↗ Urban rather than Suburban

1:47:47 ↗ densities I know the required parking um

1:47:51 ↗ off the top of my head is the 47 spaces

1:47:54 ↗ I am give me one second I'm rapidly

1:47:56 ↗ scrolling through my code to tell you

1:47:58 ↗ what I wondered if we had any leeway in

1:48:00 ↗ that or if it's

1:48:02 ↗ specific so let's

1:48:07 ↗ see

1:48:09 ↗ sorry

1:48:17 ↗ um if I may can I ask a question chair

1:48:20 ↗ what do you mean by

1:48:22 ↗ um what are you looking for are you

1:48:25 ↗ looking to add more

1:48:27 ↗ parking we've heard from the public that

1:48:30 ↗ they're very concerned about spillover

1:48:33 ↗ parking into other lots and buildings 65

1:48:36 ↗ units uh and only 53

1:48:40 ↗ spaces uh a lot of residents have raised

1:48:43 ↗ the issue in addition we have visitors

1:48:45 ↗ we have building managers we may have

1:48:49 ↗ building staff and so on where are these

1:48:52 ↗ people to park and uh well we're still

1:48:56 ↗ on this topic I'm concerned about it

1:48:58 ↗ because maybe you could also tell me

1:49:02 ↗ what the public transit is like on

1:49:05 ↗ Newport I'm thinking if there is

1:49:07 ↗ well-developed urban public transport on

1:49:10 ↗ Newport then we can scale down to Urban

1:49:13 ↗ densities for our parking but I don't

1:49:15 ↗ think that's the case and I I am

1:49:18 ↗ concerned about too few spaces for the

1:49:20 ↗ number of

1:49:28 ↗ units for the record my name is Valerie

1:49:30 ↗ Porter I'm an associate planner with the

1:49:32 ↗ community Planning Development

1:49:33 ↗ Department um like Emily said I also

1:49:35 ↗ worked on the project early on um so

1:49:38 ↗ just to address the parking parking does

1:49:40 ↗ meet code so I don't think we can

1:49:43 ↗ require that the applicant provide

1:49:45 ↗ anymore um there is a transportation

1:49:49 ↗ study that talks about um the level of

1:49:52 ↗ service um roads um and track um and bus

1:49:57 ↗ routes they believe there are at least

1:49:59 ↗ one bus route that does um uh go down

1:50:03 ↗ Newport Way um I'm not quite sure where

1:50:05 ↗ the stops are um but again the the

1:50:08 ↗ project is meeting the parking

1:50:11 ↗ requirements okay so I guess in the code

1:50:14 ↗ to which this was vested there was not a

1:50:16 ↗ range of parking available for example

1:50:18 ↗ in the current code

1:50:20 ↗ uh 75 to two

1:50:23 ↗ units two spaces can be allocated per

1:50:26 ↗ unit in other words there's a range

1:50:28 ↗ there it sounds like this code was more

1:50:31 ↗ specific to this type of development is

1:50:33 ↗ that right it has a minimum and maximum

1:50:36 ↗ in stads it depends on the um like if

1:50:39 ↗ it's a studio or one-bedroom or a

1:50:40 ↗ two-bedroom but as Valerie said it it

1:50:43 ↗ does meet code requirements what's being

1:50:45 ↗ proposed okay and did the city choose

1:50:49 ↗ then the the ratio that we wanted

1:50:52 ↗ applied essentially to this

1:50:54 ↗ building no there's a range when they

1:50:57 ↗ when an applicant

1:50:58 ↗ proposes the parking we staff's job is

1:51:02 ↗ to make sure that it's within the

1:51:03 ↗ minimum or maximum that they're not

1:51:05 ↗ falling below the minimum and they're

1:51:06 ↗ not exceeding the

1:51:08 ↗ maximum all right thank

1:51:10 ↗ you and I guess I wonder what other

1:51:13 ↗ Commissioners feel about the parking in

1:51:16 ↗ this

1:51:18 ↗ situation uh do we feel that it really

1:51:22 ↗ uh

1:51:23 ↗ satisfies the anticipated need giving

1:51:26 ↗ the number of units in this wondered if

1:51:29 ↗ anyone else had an opinion on this

1:51:30 ↗ commissioner Brennan yeah just a quick

1:51:32 ↗ comment I I'm kind of reiterating what

1:51:33 ↗ staff said I think we have a little bit

1:51:35 ↗ of we have limitations there with the

1:51:37 ↗ code um lots of work is done to study

1:51:40 ↗ parking needs um and create um the

1:51:44 ↗ thresholds minimums and maximums so I

1:51:47 ↗ think uh to second guess that um I don't

1:51:49 ↗ I don't know that we really have the

1:51:51 ↗ authority and probably would require

1:51:53 ↗ some additional study if we're going to

1:51:54 ↗ do that um so I I would suggest if if

1:51:57 ↗ the parking proposed is within the range

1:52:01 ↗ that's allowed for in the goe that

1:52:03 ↗ that's our that's our place um if we we

1:52:06 ↗ can always express through staff that we

1:52:09 ↗ think maybe in this location that may

1:52:11 ↗ not be adequate maybe the code needs to

1:52:13 ↗ be looked at at some point down the road

1:52:15 ↗ again as far as parking but I would say

1:52:17 ↗ if they're within range of the code I

1:52:19 ↗ would be supporting of the

1:52:21 ↗ project as uh meeting that we okay thank

1:52:25 ↗ you any other comments opinions on

1:52:28 ↗ that thank you all questions I

1:52:32 ↗ had any other discussion commissioner

1:52:35 ↗ there any other comments or

1:52:43 ↗ questions okay with deliberation

1:52:45 ↗ concluded it's time for the commission

1:52:47 ↗ to take action on the item before us is

1:52:49 ↗ there a motion on the item before the

1:52:51 ↗ commission commissioner

1:52:54 ↗ K commissioner k um I moved the

1:52:57 ↗ development commission approve the site

1:53:00 ↗ development permit for the for Milano

1:53:02 ↗ isqua Apartments file sdp 20-00

1:53:08 ↗ 00002 and the associated administrative

1:53:10 ↗ adjustment of Standards file

1:53:13 ↗ AAS

1:53:14 ↗ 23-00

1:53:16 ↗ 009 as described and evaluated in the St

1:53:20 ↗ report dated November 16th 2023 with

1:53:23 ↗ exhibits a through X subject to the

1:53:26 ↗ conditions therein and is amended

1:53:28 ↗ amended

1:53:30 ↗ tonight go he a second seconded I'll

1:53:34 ↗ second any more discussion on the main

1:53:37 ↗ motion Mr chair I'd like to propose

1:53:39 ↗ condition number

1:53:41 ↗ 31 that would state to avoid the

1:53:44 ↗ appearance of blank walls the exterior

1:53:46 ↗ garage walls especially the East

1:53:48 ↗ Elevation shall be improved with

1:53:50 ↗ textures art trellises or other

1:53:58 ↗ elements is that a motion to add as a

1:54:01 ↗ motion to add condition 31 I'll I'll

1:54:03 ↗ second discussion on the motion to add

1:54:05 ↗ the condition is stated by commissioner

1:54:09 ↗ Morgan all in favor of the condition say

1:54:12 ↗ I I I I all the PO say

1:54:15 ↗ no that condition passes

1:54:18 ↗ unanimously any

1:54:26 ↗ others time for vote on the main motion

1:54:29 ↗ then if there's no further discussion

1:54:30 ↗ before us all in favor of the main

1:54:32 ↗ motion is proposed by commissioner arada

1:54:34 ↗ signify by saying I I I all oppose say

1:54:40 ↗ no main motion passes

1:54:44 ↗ unanimously do we have another um motion

1:54:47 ↗ before the commission commissioner yes

1:54:50 ↗ we do I move the development commission

1:54:52 ↗ direct the community Planning and

1:54:54 ↗ Development Department to prepare

1:54:56 ↗ findings of fact and conclusions for

1:54:58 ↗ review and approval by the development

1:55:00 ↗ commission chairman affirming the

1:55:02 ↗ development commission's decision to

1:55:04 ↗ approve the Milano squ Apartments file

1:55:08 ↗ sdp

1:55:11 ↗ 20-2 and the associated administrative

1:55:13 ↗ adjustment of Standards file AAS

1:55:18 ↗ 23-9

1:55:20 ↗ subject to the conditions listed there

1:55:22 ↗ listed in the staff report dated

1:55:24 ↗ November 16th 2023 with exhibits a

1:55:27 ↗ through X and is amended

1:55:29 ↗ tonight second thank you the motion's

1:55:33 ↗ been proposed and seconded any

1:55:35 ↗ discussion on that

1:55:38 ↗ motion all in favor of the motion say I

1:55:42 ↗ I all opposed motion carries unanimously

1:55:46 ↗ thank

1:55:48 ↗ you Mr chair if you if you don't mind

1:55:50 ↗ I'd like to compliment Mr uh Kum on his

1:55:53 ↗ persistence over several years in this

1:55:55 ↗ project so very Tractive looking project

1:55:58 ↗ would be a nice addition thank

1:56:04 ↗ you

1:56:07 ↗ f thanks that concludes the malanum

1:56:09 ↗ apartment site development permit a

1:56:11 ↗ notice of decision will be issued by

1:56:13 ↗ staff within seven days so at this point

1:56:16 ↗ I'd like to excuse the public you're

1:56:18 ↗ also welcome to stick around for our

1:56:20 ↗ regular business if you like but we're

1:56:22 ↗ going to have some regular business

1:56:23 ↗ specific to the commission

1:56:30 ↗ thanks also like to ask Commissioners

1:56:33 ↗ you want to take a break at this point

1:56:34 ↗ or keep going I would imagine we have

1:56:36 ↗ about 20 25 minutes to

1:56:39 ↗ go want to hang in keep going okay good

1:56:42 ↗ that's the

1:56:44 ↗ spirit

1:56:45 ↗ okay regular business tonight first we

1:56:48 ↗ have a rules and regulations

1:56:51 ↗ update uh it involves the consideration

1:56:54 ↗ of one potential change to our

1:56:56 ↗ commission rules and

1:56:58 ↗ regulations and it has to do with a

1:57:00 ↗ change to reduce the number of regularly

1:57:02 ↗ scheduled meetings from two per month

1:57:05 ↗ one the order of operation for this item

1:57:07 ↗ will be a brief staff presentation

1:57:09 ↗ followed by commission comment and

1:57:12 ↗ discussion Mr Gs please

1:57:18 ↗ proceed thank you chair I'm just going

1:57:20 ↗ to stand up and stretch my legs a bit so

1:57:22 ↗ yes uh no presentation or no slides just

1:57:25 ↗ a quick discussion about this uh one

1:57:28 ↗ minor and then one slightly larger than

1:57:31 ↗ minor adjustment so the first minor

1:57:33 ↗ adjustment is just updating uh the the

1:57:36 ↗ rules to reflect the change pulling the

1:57:40 ↗ development commission uh regulations

1:57:43 ↗ out of Title 18 and placing them within

1:57:45 ↗ title 2 it's where all the boards in

1:57:47 ↗ commission uh standards and and and

1:57:50 ↗ rules are Set uh so that's a minor one

1:57:53 ↗ the second one was was related to the

1:57:55 ↗ meeting schedule so wanted to just open

1:57:58 ↗ up that discussion to consider shifting

1:58:01 ↗ from the two every month to once per

1:58:04 ↗ month um given a couple of factors one

1:58:07 ↗ we don't we don't tend to see too many

1:58:09 ↗ development commission meetings had to

1:58:11 ↗ cancel quite a few over the past several

1:58:14 ↗ months Additionally the the new code has

1:58:18 ↗ changed How We Do our preliminary

1:58:20 ↗ meetings where the neighborhood meeting

1:58:21 ↗ would be held before the development

1:58:22 ↗ Commission Now that is um handled by

1:58:25 ↗ staff uh to make it slightly easier for

1:58:28 ↗ applicants a lot quicker for that

1:58:31 ↗ activity to happen um one of the obvious

1:58:35 ↗ benefits is it's it it opens up the

1:58:37 ↗ scheduling it opens up this room if

1:58:39 ↗ there are other meetings that need to

1:58:40 ↗ take place um but I wanted to put that

1:58:44 ↗ before you and uh open that up for a for

1:58:48 ↗ discussion

1:58:50 ↗ consideration what do you think

1:58:51 ↗ Commissioners so from two regular

1:58:54 ↗ meetings per month to

1:59:01 ↗ one brenon um just a a thought so yes I

1:59:07 ↗ with the new code the role of the

1:59:09 ↗ commission has changed and I think the

1:59:11 ↗ pace of development has probably tip

1:59:13 ↗ down a little bit here I

1:59:17 ↗ me my only concern with with one meeting

1:59:21 ↗ per month would be the potential for

1:59:24 ↗ delaying projects now you got to wait at

1:59:26 ↗ least a month potentially even more than

1:59:28 ↗ that to get to another meeting to move

1:59:30 ↗ the project along and so the the rules

1:59:34 ↗ do allow for special meetings um but I

1:59:38 ↗ would say if we're going to go to a

1:59:40 ↗ single meeting per month that we should

1:59:42 ↗ be accommodating when necessary to move

1:59:45 ↗ projects through the system if we start

1:59:47 ↗ to see uh a larger level of activity and

1:59:51 ↗ need for I'll book in this room and all

1:59:54 ↗ that that being said I think it is

1:59:57 ↗ important um for these large Investments

1:59:59 ↗ that are the projects that are in front

2:00:01 ↗ of us

2:00:03 ↗ now don't get held up just because we've

2:00:05 ↗ got a scheduling problem

2:00:09 ↗ getting absolutely yes and I think

2:00:13 ↗ looking at Senate Bill 5290 and the

2:00:15 ↗ changes to land use application permit

2:00:18 ↗ review it's it's speeding up level ones

2:00:22 ↗ and level twos so it's setting a 65 day

2:00:25 ↗ review Target for all level one permits

2:00:28 ↗ or what we're now calling a level one

2:00:30 ↗ level two is 100 days and then anything

2:00:32 ↗ with a public hearing such as this has

2:00:34 ↗ 170 days so it increases it from that

2:00:36 ↗ traditional 120-day Target um but it's

2:00:39 ↗ something that we're going to have to

2:00:40 ↗ make sure we

2:00:41 ↗ accommodate if that that Target deadline

2:00:44 ↗ is approaching we're going to have to

2:00:46 ↗ either set a special meeting

2:00:49 ↗ or preemptively build that into our our

2:00:53 ↗ schedule so it's it's making making

2:00:55 ↗ ourselves be more accountable um I

2:00:58 ↗ appreciate and flips side it requires

2:01:01 ↗ applicants provide their accountability

2:01:04 ↗ and responsiveness so is the main

2:01:07 ↗ concern scheduling of this room no no it

2:01:11 ↗ was it's not not a concern um it does

2:01:14 ↗ free it up um

2:01:16 ↗ with over a dozen boards and commissions

2:01:19 ↗ they're they meet you know sometimes

2:01:21 ↗ twice monthly so they're looking to to

2:01:24 ↗ make sure that they have they have their

2:01:25 ↗ space which they do um

2:01:29 ↗ but looking to see if it was something

2:01:31 ↗ that would would be

2:01:35 ↗ considered but yes running a special

2:01:37 ↗ meeting as

2:01:39 ↗ need it's always an option and there's

2:01:42 ↗ no real restrictions on special meetings

2:01:45 ↗ in terms of when we could do them no the

2:01:49 ↗ the only the only restriction within the

2:01:50 ↗ current code is for the pre-application

2:01:52 ↗ community meeting which uh the code

2:01:54 ↗ identifies cannot be held the same on

2:01:57 ↗ the same time or evening as another city

2:02:01 ↗ city meeting so development commission

2:02:04 ↗ meeting can take place same as any

2:02:09 ↗ other great thank you and this change

2:02:11 ↗ our rules and rs would not be

2:02:13 ↗ inconsistent with code right code just

2:02:16 ↗ essentially says that we will determine

2:02:18 ↗ our meeting meeting time and not fewer

2:02:20 ↗ than one a month

2:02:24 ↗ correct would the special meetings be

2:02:27 ↗ on third Wednesday then would that be

2:02:30 ↗ kind of the default or could be built

2:02:33 ↗ into the yeah as it is right now I kind

2:02:36 ↗ of these days open for the most part

2:02:39 ↗ until obvious they're not going to

2:02:42 ↗ happen but if they're random it might be

2:02:44 ↗ harder to get us all together yeah and I

2:02:46 ↗ thought I did I I thought I read that

2:02:48 ↗ the draft took out the third and left

2:02:50 ↗ the first correct that it was yeah one

2:02:55 ↗ but you'd prefer the third oh no no I'm

2:02:58 ↗ just saying like I if we keep

2:03:00 ↗ both I know when it is possibly going to

2:03:04 ↗ be we keep one but we need to it might

2:03:07 ↗ be hard to get us all

2:03:16 ↗ together you have your input Christian

2:03:18 ↗ you need anything else from us on that

2:03:20 ↗ one NOP okay good

2:03:23 ↗ thanks so the next item of regular

2:03:26 ↗ business our election of chair and vice

2:03:28 ↗ chair we're a few months over uh we were

2:03:31 ↗ not meeting around the April time frame

2:03:33 ↗ when this election usually always

2:03:35 ↗ happens so uh we need to do it now and

2:03:38 ↗ this will just be through April 30th of

2:03:41 ↗ 2024 this is the process first I'll call

2:03:43 ↗ for nominations all nominations have

2:03:46 ↗ been made I'll close the nominations if

2:03:48 ↗ only one nomination is made that memb is

2:03:50 ↗ elected to the position by unanimous

2:03:52 ↗ consent if there are multiple

2:03:54 ↗ nominations commission members will be

2:03:56 ↗ provided opportunity to discuss the

2:03:58 ↗ nominees then I'll ask members to cast

2:04:00 ↗ votes on the nominees in the order they

2:04:02 ↗ were nominated by roll call vote members

2:04:05 ↗ may vote for only one nominee per office

2:04:07 ↗ and may vote for themselves first

2:04:09 ↗ nominee receiving a majority vote is

2:04:11 ↗ declared the chair then we'll repeat the

2:04:13 ↗ process for vice chair so are there any

2:04:15 ↗ nominations for chair through April 30

2:04:18 ↗ 20

2:04:21 ↗ 24 I'll nominate chair Sanford to

2:04:23 ↗ continue if he's willing to attend at

2:04:25 ↗ least one more meeting it's only been

2:04:27 ↗ like one so far right so I was hoping to

2:04:31 ↗ Eclipse Mike's

2:04:32 ↗ record records are made to be broken any

2:04:35 ↗ other

2:04:38 ↗ nominations okay I guess I'll maintain

2:04:40 ↗ this blistering pace for five more

2:04:42 ↗ months okay uh repeat uh for vice chair

2:04:46 ↗ are there any nominations for vice chair

2:04:52 ↗ I nominate um chair Morgan for vice

2:04:57 ↗ chair commissioner

2:05:01 ↗ Morgan are there any nomin other

2:05:03 ↗ nominations for vice chair I'd like to

2:05:06 ↗ nominate Vice chair Shore to continue in

2:05:10 ↗ the position as Vice chair um through

2:05:12 ↗ the duration of the chairs

2:05:15 ↗ um uh steering the HM

2:05:19 ↗ are there any other nominations for vice

2:05:23 ↗ chair thank you okay we will uh proceed

2:05:27 ↗ now because we have multiple nominations

2:05:30 ↗ is there any discussion on the

2:05:34 ↗ nominees I think uh I think I would like

2:05:37 ↗ to withdraw my name from

2:05:39 ↗ consideration while I form a pack for

2:05:42 ↗ future election

2:05:43 ↗ [Laughter]

2:05:45 ↗ so I do appreciate the nomin there there

2:05:48 ↗ being no other nominations um

2:05:52 ↗ commissioner Shore you've been elected

2:05:54 ↗ as Vice chair through April 30 2024

2:05:57 ↗ congratulations thank

2:06:00 ↗ you okay we have our officers for a

2:06:03 ↗ while uh move on to reports uh city

2:06:06 ↗ council updates I'd like to ask staff to

2:06:08 ↗ provide any updates on city council

2:06:11 ↗ activities sure so since we last met

2:06:13 ↗ there's been an election uh there were

2:06:15 ↗ no changes to the elected positions city

2:06:19 ↗ council they'll be performing their

2:06:22 ↗ annual voting and selection of their

2:06:26 ↗ their Council chair council president

2:06:28 ↗ vice president in

2:06:30 ↗ January a couple of updates since we've

2:06:33 ↗ last met uh the title 18 updates did go

2:06:36 ↗ forward we are moving through the final

2:06:40 ↗ stages of implementation so projects

2:06:42 ↗ will all comeing at you with those those

2:06:46 ↗ standards unless we identify otherwise

2:06:48 ↗ so there might be a couple lingering uh

2:06:51 ↗ projects that uh are are set to be

2:06:53 ↗ headed your way the beginning um but

2:06:56 ↗ otherwise Title 18 it's in full

2:07:00 ↗ effect couple major project updates uh

2:07:03 ↗ the Lakeside development agreement uh

2:07:05 ↗ was approved by Council last month we

2:07:08 ↗ are waiting to hear on any appeals but

2:07:11 ↗ once that's completed it's uh will wrap

2:07:13 ↗ up the development up in the isqua

2:07:15 ↗ highlands additionally the Lakeside uh

2:07:18 ↗ development project is kicking off both

2:07:21 ↗ of those have independent uh processes

2:07:25 ↗ for development review but just always

2:07:28 ↗ good to this group know what's what's

2:07:30 ↗ happening um from the Department

2:07:33 ↗ perspective uh working on the the comp

2:07:35 ↗ plan uh policies and goals and the the

2:07:39 ↗ 20-year update so that is in in full

2:07:41 ↗ effect kicking off the beginning of the

2:07:43 ↗ year with uh planning policy commission

2:07:47 ↗ so there may be some future updates on

2:07:49 ↗ that for this

2:07:51 ↗ groupwise we will be updating the the

2:07:53 ↗ parking so along the lines of the

2:07:55 ↗ questioning tonight parking is one of

2:07:57 ↗ the major uh zoning code updates and

2:08:00 ↗ amendments that's that's under review

2:08:01 ↗ along with

2:08:03 ↗ housing responding to House Bill

2:08:06 ↗ 1110 it for

2:08:10 ↗ reports any other business tonight from

2:08:12 ↗ the commission or announcements from

2:08:17 ↗ staff there being no further business

2:08:19 ↗ before the commission the meeting is

2:08:21 ↗ adjourned at 8:38 p.m. thank

2:08:30 ↗ you

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Attendance

Council / Members (7)

Sanford

Vice-Chair Shore

Commissioners Brennan

Gilbert

Ikeda

Morgan

Price

Staff (1)

Emily Adams, Associate Planner Christian Geitz, Planning Manager Valerie Porter, Associate Planner Emily Appleton, Engineering Manager