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Wednesday, November 16, 2022

6:30 PM · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
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2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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Minutes of October 19, 2022
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MINUTES DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION 7:00 p.m. Wednesday, October 19, 2022
5. REPORTS
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City Council Update
Christian Geitz, Planning Manager
6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
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Upcoming Schedule
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2022 Development Commission Schedule (updated 10/11/2022)
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0:00 ↗ approved
0:03 ↗ next I would like to open to the floor
0:05 ↗ open the floor for any members of the
0:07 ↗ public in person or virtually who would
0:10 ↗ like to make General comments not about
0:12 ↗ the Providence Heights Wireless facility
0:14 ↗ Community Conference but on General
0:15 ↗ topics
0:17 ↗ there will be an opportunity later in
0:19 ↗ the meeting for those who would like to
0:20 ↗ comment about the project on tonight's
0:22 ↗ agenda
0:24 ↗ those who are in person and signed up in
0:26 ↗ advance to make comments will be called
0:28 ↗ on first if you are in the room and did
0:30 ↗ not sign up I will ask for other
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1:41 ↗ uh not at the moment
1:43 ↗ is there anyone here who would like to
1:45 ↗ make General Public comments
1:50 ↗ all right we will move on to the
1:51 ↗ Community Conference
1:55 ↗ the purpose of the first agenda item
1:57 ↗ this evening is the community conference
1:58 ↗ for the Verizon SCA
2:00 ↗ Providence Heights Wireless Community
2:02 ↗ facility the order of operation for this
2:05 ↗ item will be appearance of fairness
2:08 ↗ staff presentation
2:10 ↗ applicant presentation
2:12 ↗ public comment and development
2:14 ↗ commission comment
2:16 ↗ foreign
2:23 ↗ see now we will proceed with the staff's
2:25 ↗ presentation
2:50 ↗ thank you
2:54 ↗ all right
3:00 ↗ all right good evening I'm Doug yormick
3:03 ↗ associate environmental planner with the
3:05 ↗ City of Issaquah and I am the planner
3:08 ↗ who's reviewing uh the squireless
3:11 ↗ facility project
3:13 ↗ as I stated this is a community
3:15 ↗ conference this is kind of a word weird
3:17 ↗ quirk in our code where variances in the
3:21 ↗ flowchart go through a Community
3:23 ↗ Conference variances are heard by a
3:24 ↗ hearing examiner still quasi-judicial
3:27 ↗ but just goes to a different body so the
3:31 ↗ purpose of this is just to facilitate
3:32 ↗ discussion with the Community
3:34 ↗ Development commission will make no
3:36 ↗ formal recommendations or we'll hear
3:38 ↗ this project in the end as it will go to
3:40 ↗ a hearing Examiner
3:44 ↗ foreign
3:45 ↗ so the purpose as I stated is to get
3:48 ↗ early engagement with the surrounding
3:50 ↗ community members
3:51 ↗ Foster discussion and big picture items
3:54 ↗ there may be things on the ground that
3:56 ↗ aren't aware of or other issues with the
4:00 ↗ property and to provide feedback to the
4:03 ↗ applicant
4:07 ↗ so the site is 28.86 Acres it is the
4:11 ↗ Issaquah school district site for the
4:12 ↗ new high school and Elementary School
4:14 ↗ the wireless lease area will be
4:17 ↗ approximately 60 by 60 feet on the site
4:20 ↗ this area was also identified in the
4:23 ↗ site development permit in the master
4:25 ↗ site plan
4:27 ↗ and this is a replacement of an existing
4:30 ↗ Wireless facility that's currently on a
4:32 ↗ water tower and the new facility will be
4:36 ↗ approximately 150 feet in height it'll
4:39 ↗ serve the three existing carriers that
4:40 ↗ are on the Water Tower and an additional
4:46 ↗ so the permit process we're we're at the
4:48 ↗ beginning so we're starting with the
4:51 ↗ Community Conference a variance in an
4:53 ↗ administrative site development permit
4:55 ↗ will be submitted during that we'll have
4:57 ↗ uh State Environmental Policy Act review
5:00 ↗ when that's all done the variance
5:03 ↗ administrative site development
5:04 ↗ permanency but we will take everything
5:05 ↗ to a hearing Examiner
5:09 ↗ following hearing examiner's decision if
5:12 ↗ it's an approval
5:13 ↗ the project will move into construction
5:15 ↗ permits
5:18 ↗ foreign
5:21 ↗ School District site on the map you see
5:24 ↗ the the little red circle in the
5:26 ↗ Southeast Corner that's where the
5:28 ↗ current water tower is and that is where
5:31 ↗ the
5:32 ↗ um new wireless facility will be located
5:36 ↗ um it's in the Providence Point
5:37 ↗ neighborhood in Issaquah it is zoned
5:39 ↗ Community facilities facilities and in
5:42 ↗ the comprehensive plan it is it is uh
5:45 ↗ Community facilities
5:48 ↗ because here is a photo simulation of
5:51 ↗ what is being proposed
5:54 ↗ from the surrounded Community it is
5:56 ↗ somewhat uh camouflaged to make it look
5:59 ↗ like a tree but as you can see it's a
6:01 ↗ approximately 150 feet in height and it
6:06 ↗ um so it will blend in kind of with the
6:08 ↗ surrounding trees because it's a the
6:10 ↗ area that this pole is going to be is
6:12 ↗ heavily treated
6:15 ↗ applicable codes So This falls in the
6:19 ↗ Issaquah Municipal Code Title 18 and
6:24 ↗ um eat chapter 18 22 is the wireless
6:28 ↗ facilities code
6:29 ↗ [Music]
6:33 ↗ the district standards for Community for
6:36 ↗ Community facilities facilities follows
6:38 ↗ the the most restrictive contiguous
6:40 ↗ zoning the most restrictive zoning in
6:42 ↗ the area is single family small lot
6:45 ↗ so there are setback requirements of 10
6:49 ↗ feet for front six four at the side and
6:52 ↗ 20 feet for the rear
6:55 ↗ the this will meet the setbacks of the
6:59 ↗ property lines as it's currently
7:01 ↗ proposed
7:03 ↗ for wireless sighting
7:06 ↗ um there are three we have
7:09 ↗ with three criteria but one's encouraged
7:12 ↗ one's discouraged and one is just
7:13 ↗ outright prohibited this site is
7:16 ↗ community facilities so that it's
7:17 ↗ considered a non-residential lot and
7:20 ↗ that falls into the encourage encourage
7:22 ↗ category
7:24 ↗ design requirements are also in 1822 and
7:30 ↗ there's a Max height of 85 feet for a
7:32 ↗ macro cell tower
7:34 ↗ the so the purpose of the variants is
7:37 ↗ for the height variance to increase it
7:38 ↗ to 150 feet in order to accommodate the
7:41 ↗ four carriers and get it above
7:44 ↗ tree line for line of sight so that
7:47 ↗ there's coverage over the rest of the
7:48 ↗ neighborhood
7:50 ↗ as I mentioned before there are existing
7:54 ↗ um cell antennas on the water tower that
7:57 ↗ those antenna are at approximately 125
8:01 ↗ feet the water tower is soon to be
8:04 ↗ demolished as part of the Redevelopment
8:05 ↗ of the school site and the height of the
8:09 ↗ tower is 150 feet
8:12 ↗ 1804 is where we will find the variance
8:16 ↗ criteria and this is the criteria that
8:18 ↗ the applicants will have to demonstrate
8:20 ↗ to the hearing examiner for final
8:22 ↗ approval
8:24 ↗ staff will provide a recommendation to
8:26 ↗ the hearing examiner in advance of the
8:28 ↗ meeting
8:29 ↗ and the hearing examiner will will make
8:32 ↗ the final determination so so if you
8:36 ↗ want to stay informed in this project my
8:38 ↗ contact information is on the screen
8:41 ↗ I can be reached either through email or
8:43 ↗ phone call
8:46 ↗ and with that
8:48 ↗ um if you have any questions or comments
8:50 ↗ before I give it to the applicant
8:57 ↗ applicant floor is yours
9:12 ↗ good evening chair Shore and members of
9:13 ↗ the commission my name is Kim Allen this
9:16 ↗ is my colleague Lee lavaga we're with
9:18 ↗ the wireless policy group and our hero
9:19 ↗ representing the applicants this evening
9:21 ↗ and thank you for the opportunity for
9:24 ↗ our team to come out tonight and present
9:26 ↗ this project to you and to the community
9:28 ↗ we have professional folks here in the
9:30 ↗ room and on the zoom call who have
9:32 ↗ worked on many different aspects of this
9:34 ↗ project we appreciate the work of City
9:35 ↗ staff
9:38 ↗ and the work of the development
9:39 ↗ commission to host this meeting and to
9:42 ↗ share with you a very important project
9:43 ↗ for the community we welcome your
9:45 ↗ feedback and would be happy to answer
9:47 ↗ any questions you might have when we
9:49 ↗ conclude our presentations
9:51 ↗ next slide
9:53 ↗ okay as Mr yormick explained the
9:56 ↗ proposal is a replacement Tower of an
10:01 ↗ existing facility the water tank which
10:03 ↗ is going to be decommissioned at the
10:06 ↗ during the construction of the new High
10:08 ↗ School in elementary school so the care
10:11 ↗ there are three carriers on that water
10:13 ↗ tank right now Verizon a t and T-Mobile
10:16 ↗ they've been on that water tower for
10:18 ↗ more than 10 years and we need to find a
10:21 ↗ new home for the antennas so that we can
10:24 ↗ keep the coverage going in this area
10:28 ↗ the location of of the site as you saw
10:31 ↗ is at the east of Providence Point Loop
10:34 ↗ Road
10:35 ↗ um this is an overhead map
10:37 ↗ of the uh of the south side
10:42 ↗ and here are a couple of pictures here
10:45 ↗ of the um the uh water tank site the
10:49 ↗ existing facility you know on the on the
10:52 ↗ left is kind of the the
10:54 ↗ um the area surrounding it and then the
10:55 ↗ water tank itself
11:01 ↗ which one
11:04 ↗ as you as as you have heard and I know
11:06 ↗ that you've been involved with the
11:07 ↗ school district uh project too the
11:10 ↗ school district is redeveloping this
11:11 ↗ property with a new campus which will
11:13 ↗ require relocating
11:15 ↗ um our our sell site the school
11:17 ↗ district's approved site development
11:19 ↗ plan allocates this location for the
11:21 ↗ replacement uh WCF and also
11:25 ↗ the uh the school district has selected
11:29 ↗ this particular location as the place
11:31 ↗ where they will allow the cell tower to
11:33 ↗ go as well
11:36 ↗ you can go back one
11:39 ↗ there we go
11:40 ↗ so the purpose of of this replacement is
11:43 ↗ to is to find a new home to be able to
11:46 ↗ kind of keep the lights on for three
11:48 ↗ existing carriers and then uh dish
11:50 ↗ Wireless is a new carrier entering the
11:52 ↗ market and they will also be asking to
11:55 ↗ relocate to to locate antennas on this
11:57 ↗ Tower in order to
11:59 ↗ um add a fourth choice of carriers for
12:02 ↗ the residents of this area
12:04 ↗ continuity of service and
12:07 ↗ keeping the lights on with the service
12:09 ↗ is really vital 911 services voice and
12:13 ↗ data services
12:14 ↗ as and certainly as we found with the um
12:17 ↗ during the pandemic the need and
12:20 ↗ Reliance on cell phones both in for work
12:23 ↗ for telemedicine at people's homes for
12:26 ↗ Education
12:28 ↗ um is is exploding you know definitely
12:30 ↗ we've seen no no reduction in the need
12:33 ↗ for cell cell phones and in fact they
12:36 ↗ have actually become kind of the remote
12:37 ↗ controls for our lives in a lot of ways
12:39 ↗ in the way we use cell phones so it is
12:42 ↗ the goal of this facility to have a
12:45 ↗ continuity of service for the residents
12:47 ↗ in this area and uh and then also to
12:50 ↗ offer the fourth choice of dish Wireless
12:55 ↗ and we do focus on Public Safety because
12:57 ↗ First Responders are very heavy users of
13:00 ↗ of all of the wireless networks
13:02 ↗ um and also because this this Community
13:05 ↗ campus will host
13:07 ↗ two schools cue the public safety
13:12 ↗ um we we know that that coverage and and
13:15 ↗ seamless wireless service is important
13:17 ↗ for for the campuses as well and for the
13:20 ↗ schools so service interruptions and
13:22 ↗ drop calls can impact the safety of the
13:25 ↗ community and the ability to connect to
13:27 ↗ 9-1-1 services in the event of an
13:29 ↗ emergency most people in in this state
13:32 ↗ rely on their wireless devices alone
13:34 ↗ rather than a landline to access e-911
13:38 ↗ services so it's uh it's it's very
13:40 ↗ important to the community and and to
13:42 ↗ the wireless carriers to to keep the
13:44 ↗ lights on here and without the
13:46 ↗ replacement facility that we're
13:48 ↗ proposing
13:49 ↗ um there's actually nowhere to go as as
13:52 ↗ you as you know if you're familiar with
13:54 ↗ this area it's surrounded by residential
13:56 ↗ that's not an allowed use in residential
13:59 ↗ areas and this particular location on
14:01 ↗ the campus is the one location that the
14:04 ↗ district is um is permitting us to go so
14:07 ↗ we're kind of down to
14:09 ↗ just one choice
14:11 ↗ next
14:13 ↗ so we're here to talk about a variance
14:16 ↗ of the hype restriction under the uh the
14:19 ↗ wireless code the wireless code limits
14:21 ↗ the height of a facility to 85 feet
14:26 ↗ this is a big problem for for this
14:28 ↗ particular facility it's it's Unique in
14:30 ↗ that we're going to host four carriers
14:32 ↗ on one Tower thus eliminating the need
14:35 ↗ for at for three additional Towers in
14:38 ↗ the area
14:39 ↗ um and because the tree line is
14:42 ↗ approximately 110 feet
14:45 ↗ the lowest carriers antennas have to
14:47 ↗ clear that tree line so the lowest
14:49 ↗ carriers antenna on the tower need to be
14:51 ↗ above the 110 feet and then there also
14:54 ↗ needs to be a separation in between each
14:56 ↗ carrier's antennas to avoid interference
14:59 ↗ so we know that um we actually had we
15:02 ↗ hired a an expert a third party
15:05 ↗ independent consultant to analyze the
15:07 ↗ needs of all of the carriers and we'll
15:09 ↗ be presenting that to the hearing
15:10 ↗ examiner but they have ascertained that
15:13 ↗ the pro proposed 150 foot height is the
15:16 ↗ minimum necessary to accomplish this to
15:19 ↗ clear the trees to have separation
15:21 ↗ between each carrier and also the top 10
15:25 ↗ feet of this will will actually not be
15:27 ↗ Wireless facility it's going to be a
15:29 ↗ tree topper to make a more natural shape
15:31 ↗ to the mono for design itself as opposed
15:34 ↗ to some I mean you've seen some of them
15:36 ↗ that kind of look like a Q-tip at the
15:37 ↗ top this brings a more natural sight
15:40 ↗ line to to the the monitor itself
15:46 ↗ so the in in in in asking for the
15:50 ↗ variance we realize that that you know
15:51 ↗ we need to demonstrate a need for this
15:54 ↗ um and we have been on this facility for
15:56 ↗ more than 10 years the uh carriers have
15:59 ↗ configured their networks around this
16:01 ↗ particular location to serve
16:03 ↗ um a very large area of of the the
16:07 ↗ community here and without a variance
16:10 ↗ what we anticipate is that there would
16:12 ↗ be uh a severe wireless service
16:14 ↗ disruption for the three major carriers
16:16 ↗ that are on that water tank today
16:18 ↗ thank you
16:19 ↗ as as we discussed earlier this location
16:22 ↗ is the only one available to serve this
16:24 ↗ this unique need because of the fact
16:26 ↗ that all of the carriers are are on it
16:29 ↗ we just need to go in this in the same
16:32 ↗ general spot and there is no alternative
16:34 ↗ for us here the monofer that we're
16:37 ↗ proposing is of the highest quality um
16:39 ↗ with branching that is dense and
16:42 ↗ concealing with a tree form that has
16:47 ↗ bark that looks like the surrounding
16:49 ↗ trees and we're also it's being cited in
16:52 ↗ the middle of
16:53 ↗ other trees that are of similar height
16:55 ↗ not not 150 feet but of similar height
16:58 ↗ to be able to screen most of the the
17:01 ↗ mono for facility
17:06 ↗ and this is a a map the green represents
17:09 ↗ the existing coverage
17:11 ↗ from the current three carrier
17:13 ↗ deployments this is excuse me the
17:16 ↗ coverage footprint that would go away
17:18 ↗ in the event that we could not replace
17:20 ↗ this facility on the site that we're
17:22 ↗ proposing
17:23 ↗ next slide
17:25 ↗ I'm gonna hand this over to Leela
17:27 ↗ and with that I'll step in I'm going to
17:30 ↗ give you some more of the technical
17:31 ↗ details of what's being proposed for
17:32 ↗ each carrier here and walk you through a
17:34 ↗ little bit more of the actual site
17:36 ↗ design so what you see here hold up come
17:39 ↗ on I'm just going to tweak that a little
17:40 ↗ bit so I can see it better
17:42 ↗ what you see here is an illustration
17:44 ↗ from the zoning drawings so here you see
17:48 ↗ this is the water tower site so down the
17:51 ↗ hill closer to Providence Loop Road is
17:53 ↗ where the Wireless Communications
17:54 ↗ facility is proposed it's as you see a
17:57 ↗ 60 by 60 foot square area
18:01 ↗ here is a photo of that proposed area to
18:04 ↗ give you an idea of the tree density
18:05 ↗ that you see there and the general
18:07 ↗ nature of that area also here you can
18:10 ↗ see Providence Loop Road right through
18:11 ↗ there so you see it's closer to the road
18:13 ↗ than the current water tower facility
18:17 ↗ another picture this is more with the
18:19 ↗ road to the back looking in to give you
18:21 ↗ a character of the of the trees there
18:23 ↗ what the ground generally looks like and
18:25 ↗ also what some of the surrounding
18:27 ↗ vegetation looks like I know we talk
18:30 ↗ about trees and forests and being in
18:32 ↗ trees but I have to say that this is an
18:34 ↗ area where it's really dense tree canopy
18:36 ↗ and dense mature trees
18:39 ↗ that's to our advantage because it does
18:41 ↗ screen the site
18:43 ↗ so here is the 60 by 60 foot area zoomed
18:47 ↗ in this is also from the zoning drawings
18:50 ↗ so what you see here in terms of the
18:52 ↗ actual facility itself you start with
18:54 ↗ the gravel access road so that's so that
18:56 ↗ maintenance Vehicles can approach the
18:58 ↗ facility and there's generally access to
19:00 ↗ the wireless facility each of the four
19:03 ↗ carriers who would have equipment on
19:05 ↗ this facility have an area where they
19:07 ↗ put their equipment
19:09 ↗ that area pardon me I need to get back
19:12 ↗ to my notes that area is approximately
19:15 ↗ 15 by 20 feet for each carrier
19:19 ↗ over here you see this little rectangle
19:21 ↗ there that's a shared generator that
19:23 ↗ would be used by all of the carriers
19:25 ↗ then we have the the entire area
19:28 ↗ surrounded by a six foot tall fence so
19:31 ↗ the area gets leveled there's a small
19:33 ↗ retaining wall and then the fence goes
19:35 ↗ around it to screen the equipment
19:36 ↗ there's also a landscape buffer
19:38 ↗ surrounding this so that there would be
19:40 ↗ additional tree planting requirements
19:42 ↗ and Landscaping further screening the
19:44 ↗ facility and then right in the middle is
19:46 ↗ the monofour tower so you see the
19:48 ↗ centrally located is where the actual
19:50 ↗ Tower would start
19:53 ↗ so there was a lot of thought and
19:56 ↗ consideration on the part of all the
19:57 ↗ carriers put into this design and again
19:58 ↗ I apologize some of the formatting got a
20:01 ↗ little bit tweaked in our presentation
20:03 ↗ crossover
20:05 ↗ so as Kim had alluded to this is a very
20:07 ↗ high quality monitor for your design so
20:10 ↗ um monitors and and monopines all the
20:13 ↗ tree designs for wireless facilities
20:16 ↗ have come a long way in recent years and
20:18 ↗ this particular design with this monofer
20:20 ↗ is one of the densest tree branch
20:23 ↗ configurations that you can have and
20:25 ↗ it's also designed to be more like an
20:28 ↗ actual tree than some of the others you
20:29 ↗ might see
20:31 ↗ um the Landscaping provides natural
20:33 ↗ concealment and as I mentioned there's
20:36 ↗ also an additional landscape buffer
20:38 ↗ multiple carriers allows us to be allow
20:41 ↗ fewer Towers overall so by allowing this
20:43 ↗ one Tower it decreases the number of
20:46 ↗ towers but in this particular case the
20:49 ↗ Wireless Communications facility isn't
20:51 ↗ allowed use in the community facility
20:54 ↗ Zone and there are no other areas around
20:57 ↗ here that would really work for it
20:58 ↗ because of the being surrounded by
21:00 ↗ residential so so that's why we're
21:02 ↗ choosing this location I also just want
21:05 ↗ to point out that that lower slope is
21:07 ↗ also part of the reason why you see this
21:08 ↗ height being taller than it necessarily
21:11 ↗ would be up the hill because we do need
21:13 ↗ to clear that tree line
21:15 ↗ now let's talk about what clearing the
21:17 ↗ tree line means and what this is
21:18 ↗ actually going to look like from an
21:19 ↗ elevation perspective so you see down at
21:22 ↗ the bottom we've got the fence compound
21:24 ↗ so that's where all the equipment is
21:27 ↗ then as you go up the tree you get your
21:29 ↗ tree trunk
21:31 ↗ and then your 110 foot tall surrounding
21:33 ↗ trees the branches start at
21:35 ↗ approximately 50 feet
21:36 ↗ and then go and then you have the
21:38 ↗ locations of the carriers
21:41 ↗ right there behind it probably moving a
21:43 ↗ box so dish should be at the lowest
21:46 ↗ height on the tower with the top of
21:48 ↗ their antennas at approximately 110 feet
21:51 ↗ um so sometimes we get the question well
21:53 ↗ you know you're clearing the top of the
21:55 ↗ trees do you really have to be all the
21:56 ↗ way above the trees well if you're at
21:58 ↗ the highest point in the tree it's not
22:00 ↗ going to be quite as good for Signal
22:01 ↗ propagation but that's about as low as
22:03 ↗ you can go so the antennas are really
22:05 ↗ starting right at that place where the
22:07 ↗ foliage thins out and you can actually
22:09 ↗ get a good signal out
22:11 ↗ trees wood blocks Wireless communication
22:14 ↗ signals so Wireless communication
22:16 ↗ signals are generally line of sight not
22:19 ↗ 100 not a like we have RF Engineers who
22:23 ↗ would go into more detail with that but
22:25 ↗ um but generally the good way to think
22:27 ↗ about it is like a flashlight analogy
22:28 ↗ right so if you're in thinly branched
22:31 ↗ trees you get some like through a
22:33 ↗ Knuffle like through each of the
22:35 ↗ carriers has approximately 10 feet of
22:37 ↗ space so generally antennas are six to
22:39 ↗ eight feet tall and then there's a two
22:42 ↗ foot separation between the top of one
22:44 ↗ carrier's antennas the bottom of the
22:45 ↗ next carrier's antennas
22:47 ↗ so then going up the the monifor so dish
22:52 ↗ and then you've got a T and T then
22:54 ↗ T-Mobile and then Verizon and then that
22:57 ↗ stops at 140 feet the top 10 feet is the
23:00 ↗ canopy it's a part of the design from
23:04 ↗ this manufacturer that what it is is
23:07 ↗ additional branches to make it look more
23:08 ↗ like a natural tree
23:12 ↗ map
23:14 ↗ all right and then some more photo
23:16 ↗ simulations I appreciated the photo
23:18 ↗ simulation that Doug put up it was a
23:19 ↗ more of a zoomed in view I'm going to
23:21 ↗ just kind of Point here so you can see
23:23 ↗ and also in these photo simulations
23:25 ↗ you'll see that the um the monofer is a
23:29 ↗ slightly darker green
23:31 ↗ um and that's because it is hard to see
23:32 ↗ in a lot of these so we wanted to make
23:34 ↗ it so that you could actually pick it
23:35 ↗ out
23:36 ↗ um so right here is where you see it in
23:39 ↗ this simulation
23:41 ↗ then we've got right there in this one
23:45 ↗ and then here's I believe this is the
23:47 ↗ photo that Doug had zoomed in on so
23:49 ↗ there we go
23:50 ↗ and then here it's um right there
23:56 ↗ and then I know photos simulations it
23:57 ↗ can be difficult to to know whether this
24:00 ↗ is actually how it's going to look so
24:01 ↗ what we did is we asked the carriers to
24:03 ↗ let us know have you installed a similar
24:05 ↗ tree and it turns out that Verizon has
24:08 ↗ installed a very similar tree fairly
24:10 ↗ recently in the Pacific Northwest so we
24:12 ↗ had them send us their actual
24:13 ↗ construction photos of that tree so this
24:17 ↗ particular tree is going to be from
24:18 ↗ irshman engineering and this is another
24:20 ↗ ershman tree now that's not exactly the
24:22 ↗ design of our proposed tree it's a
24:24 ↗ different height this also this trunk
24:26 ↗ design is slightly different this is
24:28 ↗ just a painted brown trunk also our
24:31 ↗ proposed facility would have more
24:33 ↗ screening around it more natural
24:34 ↗ vegetation around it what I like about
24:37 ↗ these pictures is that they are more of
24:39 ↗ an unobstructed view of a faux tree than
24:41 ↗ you would see at this site so so they
24:43 ↗ give you a good idea of what the actual
24:45 ↗ monofer looks like
24:48 ↗ and that concludes our presentation
24:50 ↗ today so we're happy to answer any
24:52 ↗ questions and we've got representatives
24:54 ↗ of the industry with us as well if you
24:55 ↗ if there are any questions we can't
24:56 ↗ answer we're also happy to take back any
24:58 ↗ questions that we don't have expertise
25:01 ↗ to answer in the room thank you very
25:02 ↗ much thank you
25:04 ↗ thank you
25:06 ↗ we will now open the meeting for public
25:09 ↗ questions and comments
25:11 ↗ Jared has anyone signed up for comments
25:12 ↗ on this topic either in person or
25:14 ↗ virtually
25:15 ↗ no one has signed up in person but I
25:18 ↗ will open this up for anyone in the
25:20 ↗ audience if they'd like to raise their
25:21 ↗ hand we'll give you a few seconds to do
25:22 ↗ so and we can try and get you in
25:32 ↗ foreign
25:36 ↗ has indicated online but someone has in
25:39 ↗ person okay
25:41 ↗ for those making comments please direct
25:43 ↗ your comments and questions to the
25:44 ↗ applicant staff is here to answer any
25:47 ↗ questions about the review and permit
25:48 ↗ process but we ask that all questions
25:51 ↗ related to the site and design be
25:52 ↗ directed to the applicant and their team
25:55 ↗ as a reminder when it's your turn to
25:56 ↗ speak state your name
25:58 ↗ speak clearly and pause frequently and
26:00 ↗ limit your comments to five minutes
26:03 ↗ okay go ahead
26:23 ↗ that's great and if you can also
26:25 ↗ directly to an overview map that I can
26:29 ↗ easily access thank you
26:37 ↗ foreign
26:44 ↗ like to comment
26:58 ↗ so I had just three quick questions
27:07 ↗ uh as well excuse me could you go ahead
27:10 ↗ and turn on your mic for us
27:13 ↗ thank you there you go
27:17 ↗ yeah
27:18 ↗ um my first question has to do with the
27:20 ↗ as we know in the hearings and so forth
27:23 ↗ there is uh site contamination in that
27:27 ↗ area where the water towers were and
27:31 ↗ part of the conditions for approval of
27:34 ↗ the project was that it would be the
27:38 ↗ soil would be completely cleaned and
27:41 ↗ submitted
27:43 ↗ to the Department of ecology for
27:46 ↗ approval
27:48 ↗ before anything could proceed and so I'm
27:52 ↗ just wondering I realize this is very
27:53 ↗ early in the process but how that might
27:57 ↗ work out and if
27:59 ↗ if there is a plan
28:02 ↗ with the tower for when it comes to
28:06 ↗ work on that so how it would just
28:08 ↗ coordinate and then my second one has to
28:11 ↗ do with uh if you read the uh the staff
28:16 ↗ report and so forth for the project
28:19 ↗ there is throughout and throughout all
28:21 ↗ the hearings there was an assumption
28:23 ↗ that the Tau the new tower would be a
28:27 ↗ future in fact the word is used future
28:30 ↗ Tower after the project is completed
28:34 ↗ and so you know it's a little surprising
28:37 ↗ to see it here actually proposed before
28:40 ↗ the water tower is uh taken down and who
28:44 ↗ knows if it'll even ever be taken down
28:47 ↗ at this point so I'm wondering in doing
28:50 ↗ that I know the wording in the uh
28:54 ↗ for utility services on page 159 is that
28:58 ↗ a temporary cell tower on wheels will be
29:03 ↗ constructed
29:04 ↗ so I wonder if that's been considered
29:06 ↗ final thing and um and that has to do
29:09 ↗ with the Loop Road itself and I'm wading
29:12 ↗ into thick Waters here that I don't
29:14 ↗ understand myself but I'm reading the
29:17 ↗ staff report again on page 153 and there
29:22 ↗ is a special deviation simply to enter
29:25 ↗ have access to the Loop Road because of
29:29 ↗ the distance to the next intersection
29:32 ↗ and because of that short distance
29:36 ↗ only as it stated their only emergency
29:39 ↗ vehicles can use that entrance
29:43 ↗ now how that would relate to use for
29:47 ↗ your utility I don't know so those are
29:49 ↗ just questions I mean it's fascinating
29:51 ↗ and I appreciate
29:53 ↗ the opportunity to ask the questions
29:56 ↗ thank you thank you and is the applicant
29:59 ↗ able to address any of those right now
30:06 ↗ and we'll be happy to address this to
30:07 ↗ the best of our ability
30:10 ↗ as far as site contamination
30:12 ↗ my understanding is we'd be complying
30:15 ↗ with the requirements set by the school
30:16 ↗ district but I'm not certain of the
30:18 ↗ details there so we'll have to look into
30:19 ↗ that one in more detail um that's
30:21 ↗ certainly something I would expect would
30:23 ↗ be clarified before construction and the
30:27 ↗ wireless industry generally we deal with
30:29 ↗ evaluating the environmental conditions
30:31 ↗ of soils often and it is a standard
30:33 ↗ practice for us where there is no in
30:34 ↗ contamination to to deal with that soil
30:37 ↗ management so this is not something
30:39 ↗ that's out of the ordinary for us at all
30:41 ↗ frankly I just I'm not familiar with the
30:43 ↗ specifics of that particular element of
30:45 ↗ the larger plan so we'll have to look
30:47 ↗ into that well and then the tower piece
30:49 ↗ of of this construction has to comply
30:52 ↗ with the conditions of the larger plan
30:54 ↗ as well so we are thoroughly intend on
30:57 ↗ doing that and and would be held to that
30:59 ↗ by the school district as well yeah and
31:02 ↗ I think you you also had a question
31:03 ↗ about the future nature of the tower
31:06 ↗ um and uh that it was it was indicated
31:09 ↗ as a future Tower
31:10 ↗ um what what the four three carriers
31:13 ↗ learned is that um the the water tower
31:15 ↗ will be will be decommissioned it will
31:18 ↗ deconstructed and what we're trying to
31:21 ↗ avoid by being proactive here is is an
31:25 ↗ interruption and service because all
31:27 ↗ three carriers are on that water tower
31:29 ↗ literally wireless service in the
31:31 ↗ service area will go dark if if we don't
31:33 ↗ have an alternative and so this is the
31:36 ↗ proposed alternative so we've started
31:38 ↗ the process early so that we can try to
31:41 ↗ sync up with the school districts
31:43 ↗ demolition of the water tower which we
31:47 ↗ have heard is a certainty
31:49 ↗ um it's just a matter of the timing as
31:51 ↗ to when that happens but we would like
31:53 ↗ to make sure that that we're on air and
31:55 ↗ serving the community before anybody uh
31:58 ↗ starts knocking the tower down I think
32:01 ↗ um we'd like to be proactive and to add
32:03 ↗ to that a temporary facility may be
32:05 ↗ needed during construction so if there's
32:08 ↗ a if there's any kind of Gap especially
32:10 ↗ as equipment's being moved Etc but in a
32:13 ↗ perfect world the new tower is
32:14 ↗ constructed before the Old Tower goes
32:16 ↗ down
32:18 ↗ um I believe your third question was
32:19 ↗ pertaining to the access to the facility
32:24 ↗ um and um just so that you're aware
32:26 ↗ Wireless communication facilities don't
32:28 ↗ require a lot of vehicle access
32:30 ↗ generally technicians go out to visit
32:32 ↗ the site when there are particular
32:33 ↗ issues that need repair or or on a
32:36 ↗ quarterly basis so what you're you're
32:38 ↗ not going to see a large increase in
32:40 ↗ vehicle traffic here and in terms of
32:43 ↗ specifically the route that they could
32:44 ↗ take for Access that's something I'll
32:46 ↗ think we'll have to look into a bit
32:47 ↗ further as well but um but it should be
32:50 ↗ um you know very minimal impact in terms
32:52 ↗ of number trips Etc it is it's generally
32:53 ↗ not a large truck it's generally more of
32:55 ↗ a pickup size size truck that would come
32:57 ↗ out to do that and and I understand that
33:01 ↗ um we've talked about you know several
33:03 ↗ Alternatives because to The Loop Road
33:05 ↗ one might be across you know the other
33:08 ↗ part of the campus to come in you know
33:10 ↗ through the campus itself so we do have
33:12 ↗ some Alternatives in the event because I
33:15 ↗ know the Loop Road is kind of a movie
33:17 ↗ being discussion right now and certainly
33:21 ↗ we're not privy to those discussions but
33:23 ↗ we do have a plan B in the event that
33:25 ↗ that we can't use the Loop Road
33:38 ↗ associate planner gormick were you able
33:40 ↗ to find an answer to that previous
33:42 ↗ question so I think
33:44 ↗ I found the tennis court
33:49 ↗ a question
33:53 ↗ kind of the Southern portion along
33:54 ↗ Southeast 43rd way is that the tennis
33:56 ↗ court you're talking about yes it's by
33:58 ↗ the end yeah it's it's about 611 feet
34:03 ↗ of six 610 feet somewhere in that that
34:06 ↗ area as the growth lies
34:14 ↗ Doug your mic was not on
34:18 ↗ sorry
34:25 ↗ if I may um again Catherine Matthews
34:28 ↗ speaking
34:30 ↗ I think that your presentation was fine
34:32 ↗ it looks like a beautiful project and um
34:36 ↗ nicely done and a great idea to have one
34:39 ↗ Tower rather than three or four
34:41 ↗ my concern is I didn't hear anything
34:43 ↗ about the safety of having a cell phone
34:45 ↗ tower in the neighborhood and I
34:46 ↗ understand that the research literature
34:48 ↗ on this issue is
34:50 ↗ not uniform not complete
34:54 ↗ so would you care to address those
34:56 ↗ issues
35:03 ↗ so the tower has been designed and the
35:06 ↗ RF engineer that was hired to evaluate
35:08 ↗ the project has ascertained that even
35:12 ↗ with all four carriers maximum output
35:15 ↗ that this project will emit far below
35:18 ↗ the um the FCC limits for RF emissions
35:23 ↗ which is which is what the FCC requires
35:25 ↗ requires of us um I think it bear in
35:29 ↗ mind that that there there already is a
35:31 ↗ three carriers are already emitting and
35:33 ↗ their antennas are there no one has none
35:36 ↗ of the three existing carriers have
35:37 ↗ plans to um to accelerate or expand the
35:40 ↗ coverage that um that they're currently
35:43 ↗ providing they just want to replace it
35:45 ↗ so that it doesn't you know so that we
35:46 ↗ don't have have a gap in service so um I
35:50 ↗ wouldn't anticipate that the output
35:51 ↗ would would be any different uh but that
35:53 ↗ those documents uh are available with
35:55 ↗ our application which
35:57 ↗ just got filed and will be available the
36:00 ↗ public
36:01 ↗ soon
36:03 ↗ and we'd be happy to follow up and talk
36:05 ↗ to you about it once once those are
36:06 ↗ available
36:09 ↗ I'll just add since we're talking about
36:12 ↗ the application that was just filed
36:14 ↗ um the information will be on the active
36:17 ↗ project map with this project so if you
36:19 ↗ were able to access it the Community
36:22 ↗ Conference through the active project
36:24 ↗ map all of that information will be
36:26 ↗ there and if you have trouble accessing
36:29 ↗ it or there are problems uploading the
36:32 ↗ documents you can always email me and
36:34 ↗ I'd be happy to share any documents that
36:36 ↗ were submitted
36:40 ↗ foreign
36:43 ↗ Jared has anyone signed up to comment
36:45 ↗ online
36:47 ↗ no one has indicated that they would
36:48 ↗ like to speak okay
36:51 ↗ thank you all for your comments and
36:53 ↗ questions I will now open the floor to
36:56 ↗ Commissioners does anyone have any
36:58 ↗ questions or comments for applicant or
37:00 ↗ staff
37:03 ↗ commissioner Dillon
37:06 ↗ so you had mentioned that the existing
37:09 ↗ site has fairly dense mature uh trees
37:12 ↗ there and I was wondering what you've
37:15 ↗ done to try to minimize the impact of
37:18 ↗ the site on those trees or to mitigate
37:20 ↗ for loss of some of those trees
37:29 ↗ you may turn the mic on turning on the
37:33 ↗ mic as we speak the we we are part of
37:37 ↗ the um the district's tree mitigation
37:40 ↗ plan and so we are following
37:42 ↗ um the requirements of that plan in
37:44 ↗ terms of the trees that would be
37:46 ↗ um that would need to be taken down for
37:48 ↗ the for the site itself and also the
37:50 ↗ replacement ratios that are required so
37:52 ↗ we're a small part of a larger planet
37:57 ↗ detailed in the drawings that were
37:58 ↗ submitted to the application
38:07 ↗ um question
38:10 ↗ um what's the monofer made of
38:13 ↗ is it is it a metal structure or
38:20 ↗ so this is where I'm not an expert on
38:22 ↗ the various different kinds of plastics
38:25 ↗ but the pole itself is a steel muzzle
38:27 ↗ it's a it's a sturdy metal pole and then
38:30 ↗ the actual tips the little little
38:32 ↗ needles that come off of it are a
38:35 ↗ synthetic of plastic material and we'd
38:37 ↗ be happy to get more detail on
38:38 ↗ specifically what material for the
38:40 ↗ manufacturer I know we have that
38:41 ↗ somewhere but
38:43 ↗ um frankly yeah it's not um not
38:45 ↗ something I know throughout my head
38:46 ↗ various manufacturers use different
38:48 ↗ forms of plastic for different
38:50 ↗ durability and it's a material that's
38:53 ↗ designed to weather well and to um to
38:56 ↗ generally hold up in our environmental
38:58 ↗ conditions what order are the
38:59 ↗ maintenance requirements for the model
39:01 ↗ for as far as say a branch falls off or
39:04 ↗ so the wireless carriers have several of
39:07 ↗ these monofer style trees and generally
39:10 ↗ if something happens where the tree gets
39:12 ↗ damaged saying the wind storm something
39:14 ↗ comes off the the same maintenance
39:18 ↗ technicians who would go out for any
39:20 ↗ other kind of repair go out and you know
39:23 ↗ clean up that issue if there there is an
39:25 ↗ issue where something needs to be
39:27 ↗ replaced then that would be something
39:29 ↗ that would be ordered from the tree
39:30 ↗ manufacturer and then installed by a
39:32 ↗ group
39:32 ↗ one last question so you have an engine
39:34 ↗ generator is it uh actual gas fired or
39:37 ↗ diesel I believe it's diesel
39:40 ↗ and assuming you'll have a above ground
39:42 ↗ tank
39:43 ↗ Yes actually it's an integrated tank
39:45 ↗ with the unit so it's designed to have
39:47 ↗ the the could spill containment in the
39:49 ↗ actual unit itself out of the tank thank
39:51 ↗ you
39:52 ↗ also just to just to add on to Leela's
39:55 ↗ comments to answer your question
39:56 ↗ typically our maintenance requirements
39:58 ↗ for these are also included as a
40:00 ↗ condition of approval for um for the
40:03 ↗ project itself so more specifics can be
40:05 ↗ found there and and required by staff
40:08 ↗ that's that's customary
40:10 ↗ thank you
40:14 ↗ commissioner Gilbert
40:18 ↗ um you said the trees are mature trees
40:20 ↗ are they going to get any taller than
40:23 ↗ 110 feet and if so will that interfere
40:25 ↗ with the cell phone coverage
40:28 ↗ um and if they interfere with the cell
40:29 ↗ phone coverage would they then be
40:32 ↗ removed and replaced thank you
40:38 ↗ 110 feet is the approximately the
40:40 ↗ average height and we would expect you
40:43 ↗ know some of those trees will will
40:44 ↗ exceed their lifespan others will grow
40:46 ↗ tall no there would not be plans to
40:49 ↗ remove trees for the sake of the cell
40:51 ↗ phone signal that is part of the reason
40:53 ↗ why it's so important to be at or above
40:55 ↗ the tree line because we need to plan
40:57 ↗ over time and 110 feet is pretty typical
41:01 ↗ for standard mature trees we don't
41:04 ↗ expect a lot of interference but we do
41:06 ↗ expect Yes trees grow and and there will
41:08 ↗ be some amount of growth and in that
41:10 ↗ case that we would not be removing trees
41:13 ↗ for that reason
41:16 ↗ commissioner Brennan
41:19 ↗ thanks chair Shore
41:20 ↗ um the photo simulations showed the
41:24 ↗ existing trees there
41:26 ↗ will at completion of the school
41:29 ↗ projects well those trees remain or are
41:31 ↗ they part of what would be removed as as
41:34 ↗ part of the school project I want to
41:35 ↗ make sure that what we're seeing is
41:36 ↗ actually going to be the long-term
41:38 ↗ condition
41:40 ↗ the trees within the 60 by 60 foot
41:42 ↗ footprint of the of the lease site would
41:45 ↗ be removed
41:47 ↗ and uh and but additional trees are are
41:50 ↗ proposed as part of the landscape plan
41:51 ↗ to replace those but yeah we we can't
41:54 ↗ have mature trees within the the
41:56 ↗ compound itself I understand so let me
41:59 ↗ try to ask the question differently so
42:00 ↗ you showed some simulations driving up
42:02 ↗ the road for example and there were
42:04 ↗ large trees that were surrounding the
42:07 ↗ the uh the tower uh
42:10 ↗ the question is will those trees remain
42:13 ↗ after the school I haven't looked at I
42:15 ↗ don't remember the details of the school
42:16 ↗ of site plan
42:17 ↗ um but will those trees remain at the
42:19 ↗ completion of the school project or will
42:21 ↗ trees that were partially screening the
42:23 ↗ tower in those simulations to be removed
42:26 ↗ and therein lies the the challenge with
42:28 ↗ preparing photosimulations because
42:31 ↗ you know from the perspective that those
42:33 ↗ that the photo simulations are taken you
42:36 ↗ know you it looks like there's there's
42:37 ↗ dense trees and how many of those are
42:39 ↗ within the 60 by 60 foot
42:42 ↗ a footprint of this of the site is
42:44 ↗ something that that I don't know and
42:46 ↗ then we have been unable to model I
42:48 ↗ think
42:52 ↗ it was sad that um there is actually a
42:54 ↗ tree tension and Landscaping plan as
42:55 ↗ part of the school Redevelopment project
42:57 ↗ that we're complying with so there will
42:59 ↗ be some change to the tree canopy
43:01 ↗ um my understanding is that's been a
43:03 ↗ very thoughtful very well developed plan
43:04 ↗ and I know that we as part of our true
43:06 ↗ detection and Landscaping plan have had
43:09 ↗ to specifically identify uh trees that
43:11 ↗ we are are removing trees that will be
43:13 ↗ planted what kind of trees to be
43:15 ↗ consistent with that plan so so no it's
43:18 ↗ not exactly the same but my
43:20 ↗ understanding is that that's really
43:21 ↗ keeping with the same nature and the
43:24 ↗ goal is to keep the same the same
43:26 ↗ forested environment there and long term
43:29 ↗ okay
43:30 ↗ I understood that the need to remove the
43:32 ↗ trees in the footprint of the facility I
43:34 ↗ mean that that's clearly is necessary
43:38 ↗ and then as far as the height that's
43:41 ↗ been established so just doing some
43:43 ↗ quick calculations on what the existing
43:45 ↗ height is of the facility on the
43:47 ↗ facilities on the the water tower and
43:50 ↗ then what's being proposed
43:52 ↗ there's and I understand there's a
43:53 ↗ difference in elevation so that some
43:55 ↗ quick crunching here so my accuracy
43:57 ↗ might be off a little bit but this is
43:59 ↗ roughly
44:01 ↗ um about 40 feet taller than the highest
44:04 ↗ antenna on the existing the top of this
44:08 ↗ facility be about 40 feet higher than
44:10 ↗ the the antennas on the existing water
44:13 ↗ tower so that's more than the 10 plus
44:17 ↗ two that you said for each carrier
44:19 ↗ so can you I mean
44:21 ↗ we are this will be some distance 40
44:25 ↗ plus feet higher than the existing
44:27 ↗ facilities that's true that's true and
44:29 ↗ and part of the and is as outlined in
44:32 ↗ our RF justification for the height
44:33 ↗ itself
44:34 ↗ um one of the one of the challenges is
44:36 ↗ that this particular site has is lower
44:38 ↗ AGL than um than the existing water
44:41 ↗ tower site so we'll be losing some
44:44 ↗ elevation just in relocating the
44:46 ↗ facility itself and then adding the
44:49 ↗ fourth carrier
44:51 ↗ and the separation
44:52 ↗ the math is is detailed I think in the
44:57 ↗ RF justification report which we'd be
44:58 ↗ happy to pull out and email to you I
45:02 ↗ just the the point obviously is trying
45:04 ↗ to minimize you know the height as much
45:06 ↗ as possible
45:07 ↗ um yeah so that that's something
45:10 ↗ obviously we're not going to look at the
45:11 ↗ report here tonight but the only the
45:13 ↗ only um you know
45:15 ↗ optional component really is the tree
45:18 ↗ topper the top 10 feet are there for
45:20 ↗ aesthetic reasons to soften the the
45:23 ↗ profile of the tree they're not
45:25 ↗ functional to the tower itself or to the
45:27 ↗ the wireless uses but we find that
45:30 ↗ jurisdictions would prefer that to to
45:31 ↗ the alternative of a less natural
45:34 ↗ looking tree yeah
45:35 ↗ and then I think you stated this already
45:38 ↗ but this is a replacement not an
45:40 ↗ expansion of service area that would be
45:41 ↗ provided by this facility so it's it's a
45:44 ↗ replacement of the of the existing
45:46 ↗ service area for three carriers and then
45:49 ↗ dish Wireless will be added as a fourth
45:51 ↗ carrier choice but as far as a broadcast
45:54 ↗ area you showed a map of the broadcast
45:55 ↗ area that would essentially remain the
45:57 ↗ same yes that's the footprint of the
45:59 ↗ existing coverage okay
46:00 ↗ thank you thank you
46:03 ↗ it's approximately I think two square
46:05 ↗ miles and it is eighteen thousand
46:08 ↗ eighteen thousand customers that would
46:10 ↗ lose service
46:15 ↗ I had a couple similar questions to
46:18 ↗ commissioner Brennan
46:22 ↗ I I think the applicant should look at
46:25 ↗ the existing trees that will be
46:27 ↗ remaining on the School site and make
46:28 ↗ sure those are coordinated
46:32 ↗ and
46:34 ↗ it is
46:36 ↗ I don't I don't know cell tower
46:39 ↗ information or how those work but you
46:42 ↗ know all of the carriers are now
46:43 ↗ currently at the same height
46:46 ↗ they're actually not they are separated
46:49 ↗ um it's it's by um some distance from
46:52 ↗ each other
46:53 ↗ um vertically but they're also separated
46:56 ↗ quite a bit more horizontally which also
46:58 ↗ addresses the interference issues so now
47:00 ↗ we're going from the diameter of a water
47:02 ↗ tank
47:05 ↗ the trunk of a monopher and that has an
47:08 ↗ impact on on the the vertical separation
47:11 ↗ that you need
47:15 ↗ and do you know the schedule for the
47:17 ↗ water tower decommissioning
47:19 ↗ that is the five million dollar question
47:21 ↗ we do not know the schedule direct the
47:24 ↗ exact schedule for the the decommission
47:26 ↗ we just know that we need to be up and
47:28 ↗ running somewhere else when when they
47:30 ↗ decide and it from my understanding we
47:32 ↗ will get some notice but but uh not a
47:35 ↗ lot of notice that the decommission is
47:37 ↗ going to go forward
47:39 ↗ okay yeah I don't know if um
47:42 ↗ the the two schedules can be
47:44 ↗ combined somehow with the the permitting
47:47 ↗ process but that might make sense
47:49 ↗ any other commission comments
47:52 ↗ yeah uh sure one more quick um and this
47:55 ↗ is a question for staff and for the
47:58 ↗ Public's benefit can you well talk or
48:00 ↗ walk through the this process that this
48:03 ↗ goes this approval goes through in the
48:05 ↗ rough time frame that you think that
48:07 ↗ that would happen and how the how the
48:09 ↗ community can continue to engage along
48:11 ↗ the way
48:12 ↗ um yes I can I can address that
48:16 ↗ um so there are two land use permits
48:18 ↗ that are going to be or that were
48:20 ↗ submitted there's a variance application
48:22 ↗ and an administrative site development
48:24 ↗ permit application both of those require
48:26 ↗ public notice
48:28 ↗ um so another notice of application will
48:31 ↗ be sent out to
48:34 ↗ um the the adjacent properties within
48:36 ↗ 300 feet of this site and I I believe it
48:39 ↗ was 400 and something addresses and then
48:42 ↗ I was also sending it out to the parties
48:43 ↗ of record for this school district site
48:46 ↗ just to Encompass that as well so that
48:49 ↗ will go out within
48:51 ↗ roughly two weeks of submittal you can
48:56 ↗ provide comments after that notice of
48:59 ↗ application up into the point that we
49:01 ↗ have the hearing I would say with having
49:05 ↗ to look at the the RF study that was
49:08 ↗ provided we'll have to get a third party
49:09 ↗ consultant to look at that go through
49:12 ↗ the sipa environmental review
49:15 ↗ it will probably be
49:19 ↗ with with a couple rounds of review and
49:22 ↗ anticipate a couple rounds of review
49:24 ↗ probably a few months before we would
49:26 ↗ even have a hearing with the hearing
49:27 ↗ examiner so sometime sometime in
49:29 ↗ mid-winter
49:31 ↗ um following that then we can get into
49:34 ↗ construction permits those will tend to
49:37 ↗ go a little bit quicker there's a faster
49:40 ↗ timeline for wireless construction
49:41 ↗ permits than for regular building
49:44 ↗ permits so we'd have to get
49:48 ↗ the construction permits reviewed within
49:51 ↗ 60 days
49:53 ↗ so looking maybe summer
49:58 ↗ yep
50:05 ↗ any other comments
50:08 ↗ uh I do have one more question
50:09 ↗ commissioner short um
50:12 ↗ since the antennas on the existing Tower
50:14 ↗ are they on all sides of the the water
50:16 ↗ tower so so it's not like
50:19 ↗ their only broadcast in One Direction
50:24 ↗ or receiving
50:27 ↗ currently the antennas are on all sides
50:29 ↗ or are surrounding the water tower in
50:31 ↗ different placements for the different
50:33 ↗ asthma directions they need to assist
50:35 ↗ broadcast and if you think about the
50:37 ↗ nature of water towers generally bigger
50:39 ↗ and more round so right now there are a
50:42 ↗ couple different heights of antennas on
50:43 ↗ that water tower but they are spread
50:45 ↗ around the entire Tower
50:54 ↗ I believe we are done with commission
50:57 ↗ comments
50:59 ↗ were there any city council updates
51:01 ↗ staff would like to provide
51:04 ↗ uh just a brief update uh on December
51:07 ↗ 7th city council passed their first
51:09 ↗ biennial budget I'm taking into
51:12 ↗ consideration many of the things that
51:13 ↗ have been discussed here looking forward
51:15 ↗ to that moving forward in the next
51:17 ↗ couple years uh and we've touched on
51:19 ↗ this before but there is a contractor
51:21 ↗ code of conduct that that's been
51:22 ↗ developed with direction from city
51:24 ↗ council that will make its way to the
51:26 ↗ development commission likely in the new
51:28 ↗ year
51:29 ↗ with that uh just a general update on
51:32 ↗ Title 18 we are moving into the final
51:34 ↗ Consolidated draft so taking all of the
51:37 ↗ the parts all of the the buckets pulling
51:40 ↗ them all together into one Consolidated
51:42 ↗ form and the hearings will likely begin
51:45 ↗ starting in the New Year giving plenty
51:48 ↗ of time for digestion of that before PPC
51:51 ↗ takes on the public hearing
51:54 ↗ there and just general calendar update
51:57 ↗ there does not appear to be anything on
51:59 ↗ the calendar for the development
52:00 ↗ commission for December we will know uh
52:03 ↗ within the next few days if there's any
52:06 ↗ projects that need to make it this way
52:09 ↗ that's it for me okay any other business
52:13 ↗ or announcements
52:14 ↗ okay there'll be no further business
52:17 ↗ before the commission I adjourned the
52:19 ↗ meeting at 7 26 pm
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Shore
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Dillon
Gilbert
Ikeda
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