Development Commission · Wednesday, November 16, 2022 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of October 19, 2022

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Staff report:

MINUTES DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION 7:00 p.m. Wednesday, October 19, 2022

5. REPORTS

City Council Update

Christian Geitz, Planning Manager

6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

Upcoming Schedule

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2022 Development Commission Schedule (updated 10/11/2022)

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0:00 ↗ approved

0:03 ↗ next I would like to open to the floor

0:05 ↗ open the floor for any members of the

0:07 ↗ public in person or virtually who would

0:10 ↗ like to make General comments not about

0:12 ↗ the Providence Heights Wireless facility

0:14 ↗ Community Conference but on General

0:15 ↗ topics

0:17 ↗ there will be an opportunity later in

0:19 ↗ the meeting for those who would like to

0:20 ↗ comment about the project on tonight's

0:22 ↗ agenda

0:24 ↗ those who are in person and signed up in

0:26 ↗ advance to make comments will be called

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1:35 ↗ Jared has anyone signed up to make

1:37 ↗ General Public comments

1:41 ↗ uh not at the moment

1:43 ↗ is there anyone here who would like to

1:45 ↗ make General Public comments

1:50 ↗ all right we will move on to the

1:51 ↗ Community Conference

1:55 ↗ the purpose of the first agenda item

1:57 ↗ this evening is the community conference

1:58 ↗ for the Verizon SCA

2:00 ↗ Providence Heights Wireless Community

2:02 ↗ facility the order of operation for this

2:05 ↗ item will be appearance of fairness

2:08 ↗ staff presentation

2:10 ↗ applicant presentation

2:12 ↗ public comment and development

2:14 ↗ commission comment

2:16 ↗ foreign

2:23 ↗ see now we will proceed with the staff's

2:25 ↗ presentation

2:50 ↗ thank you

2:54 ↗ all right

3:00 ↗ all right good evening I'm Doug yormick

3:03 ↗ associate environmental planner with the

3:05 ↗ City of Issaquah and I am the planner

3:08 ↗ who's reviewing uh the squireless

3:11 ↗ facility project

3:13 ↗ as I stated this is a community

3:15 ↗ conference this is kind of a word weird

3:17 ↗ quirk in our code where variances in the

3:21 ↗ flowchart go through a Community

3:23 ↗ Conference variances are heard by a

3:24 ↗ hearing examiner still quasi-judicial

3:27 ↗ but just goes to a different body so the

3:31 ↗ purpose of this is just to facilitate

3:32 ↗ discussion with the Community

3:34 ↗ Development commission will make no

3:36 ↗ formal recommendations or we'll hear

3:38 ↗ this project in the end as it will go to

3:40 ↗ a hearing Examiner

3:44 ↗ foreign

3:45 ↗ so the purpose as I stated is to get

3:48 ↗ early engagement with the surrounding

3:50 ↗ community members

3:51 ↗ Foster discussion and big picture items

3:54 ↗ there may be things on the ground that

3:56 ↗ aren't aware of or other issues with the

4:00 ↗ property and to provide feedback to the

4:03 ↗ applicant

4:07 ↗ so the site is 28.86 Acres it is the

4:11 ↗ Issaquah school district site for the

4:12 ↗ new high school and Elementary School

4:14 ↗ the wireless lease area will be

4:17 ↗ approximately 60 by 60 feet on the site

4:20 ↗ this area was also identified in the

4:23 ↗ site development permit in the master

4:25 ↗ site plan

4:27 ↗ and this is a replacement of an existing

4:30 ↗ Wireless facility that's currently on a

4:32 ↗ water tower and the new facility will be

4:36 ↗ approximately 150 feet in height it'll

4:39 ↗ serve the three existing carriers that

4:40 ↗ are on the Water Tower and an additional

4:46 ↗ so the permit process we're we're at the

4:48 ↗ beginning so we're starting with the

4:51 ↗ Community Conference a variance in an

4:53 ↗ administrative site development permit

4:55 ↗ will be submitted during that we'll have

4:57 ↗ uh State Environmental Policy Act review

5:00 ↗ when that's all done the variance

5:03 ↗ administrative site development

5:04 ↗ permanency but we will take everything

5:05 ↗ to a hearing Examiner

5:08 ↗ um

5:09 ↗ following hearing examiner's decision if

5:12 ↗ it's an approval

5:13 ↗ the project will move into construction

5:15 ↗ permits

5:18 ↗ foreign

5:21 ↗ School District site on the map you see

5:24 ↗ the the little red circle in the

5:26 ↗ Southeast Corner that's where the

5:28 ↗ current water tower is and that is where

5:31 ↗ the

5:32 ↗ um new wireless facility will be located

5:36 ↗ um it's in the Providence Point

5:37 ↗ neighborhood in Issaquah it is zoned

5:39 ↗ Community facilities facilities and in

5:42 ↗ the comprehensive plan it is it is uh

5:45 ↗ Community facilities

5:48 ↗ because here is a photo simulation of

5:51 ↗ what is being proposed

5:54 ↗ from the surrounded Community it is

5:56 ↗ somewhat uh camouflaged to make it look

5:59 ↗ like a tree but as you can see it's a

6:01 ↗ approximately 150 feet in height and it

6:06 ↗ um so it will blend in kind of with the

6:08 ↗ surrounding trees because it's a the

6:10 ↗ area that this pole is going to be is

6:12 ↗ heavily treated

6:15 ↗ applicable codes So This falls in the

6:19 ↗ Issaquah Municipal Code Title 18 and

6:24 ↗ um eat chapter 18 22 is the wireless

6:28 ↗ facilities code

6:29 ↗ [Music]

6:33 ↗ the district standards for Community for

6:36 ↗ Community facilities facilities follows

6:38 ↗ the the most restrictive contiguous

6:40 ↗ zoning the most restrictive zoning in

6:42 ↗ the area is single family small lot

6:45 ↗ so there are setback requirements of 10

6:49 ↗ feet for front six four at the side and

6:52 ↗ 20 feet for the rear

6:54 ↗ um

6:55 ↗ the this will meet the setbacks of the

6:59 ↗ property lines as it's currently

7:01 ↗ proposed

7:03 ↗ for wireless sighting

7:06 ↗ um there are three we have

7:08 ↗ um

7:09 ↗ with three criteria but one's encouraged

7:12 ↗ one's discouraged and one is just

7:13 ↗ outright prohibited this site is

7:16 ↗ community facilities so that it's

7:17 ↗ considered a non-residential lot and

7:20 ↗ that falls into the encourage encourage

7:22 ↗ category

7:24 ↗ design requirements are also in 1822 and

7:30 ↗ there's a Max height of 85 feet for a

7:32 ↗ macro cell tower

7:34 ↗ the so the purpose of the variants is

7:37 ↗ for the height variance to increase it

7:38 ↗ to 150 feet in order to accommodate the

7:41 ↗ four carriers and get it above

7:44 ↗ um

7:44 ↗ tree line for line of sight so that

7:47 ↗ there's coverage over the rest of the

7:48 ↗ neighborhood

7:50 ↗ as I mentioned before there are existing

7:54 ↗ um cell antennas on the water tower that

7:57 ↗ those antenna are at approximately 125

8:01 ↗ feet the water tower is soon to be

8:04 ↗ demolished as part of the Redevelopment

8:05 ↗ of the school site and the height of the

8:09 ↗ tower is 150 feet

8:12 ↗ 1804 is where we will find the variance

8:16 ↗ criteria and this is the criteria that

8:18 ↗ the applicants will have to demonstrate

8:20 ↗ to the hearing examiner for final

8:22 ↗ approval

8:24 ↗ staff will provide a recommendation to

8:26 ↗ the hearing examiner in advance of the

8:28 ↗ meeting

8:29 ↗ and the hearing examiner will will make

8:32 ↗ the final determination so so if you

8:36 ↗ want to stay informed in this project my

8:38 ↗ contact information is on the screen

8:41 ↗ I can be reached either through email or

8:43 ↗ phone call

8:46 ↗ and with that

8:48 ↗ um if you have any questions or comments

8:50 ↗ before I give it to the applicant

8:57 ↗ applicant floor is yours

9:12 ↗ good evening chair Shore and members of

9:13 ↗ the commission my name is Kim Allen this

9:16 ↗ is my colleague Lee lavaga we're with

9:18 ↗ the wireless policy group and our hero

9:19 ↗ representing the applicants this evening

9:21 ↗ and thank you for the opportunity for

9:24 ↗ our team to come out tonight and present

9:26 ↗ this project to you and to the community

9:28 ↗ we have professional folks here in the

9:30 ↗ room and on the zoom call who have

9:32 ↗ worked on many different aspects of this

9:34 ↗ project we appreciate the work of City

9:35 ↗ staff

9:38 ↗ and the work of the development

9:39 ↗ commission to host this meeting and to

9:42 ↗ share with you a very important project

9:43 ↗ for the community we welcome your

9:45 ↗ feedback and would be happy to answer

9:47 ↗ any questions you might have when we

9:49 ↗ conclude our presentations

9:51 ↗ next slide

9:53 ↗ okay as Mr yormick explained the

9:56 ↗ proposal is a replacement Tower of an

10:01 ↗ existing facility the water tank which

10:03 ↗ is going to be decommissioned at the

10:06 ↗ during the construction of the new High

10:08 ↗ School in elementary school so the care

10:11 ↗ there are three carriers on that water

10:13 ↗ tank right now Verizon a t and T-Mobile

10:16 ↗ they've been on that water tower for

10:18 ↗ more than 10 years and we need to find a

10:21 ↗ new home for the antennas so that we can

10:24 ↗ keep the coverage going in this area

10:28 ↗ the location of of the site as you saw

10:31 ↗ is at the east of Providence Point Loop

10:34 ↗ Road

10:35 ↗ um this is an overhead map

10:37 ↗ of the uh of the south side

10:42 ↗ and here are a couple of pictures here

10:45 ↗ of the um the uh water tank site the

10:49 ↗ existing facility you know on the on the

10:52 ↗ left is kind of the the

10:54 ↗ um the area surrounding it and then the

10:55 ↗ water tank itself

11:01 ↗ which one

11:04 ↗ as you as as you have heard and I know

11:06 ↗ that you've been involved with the

11:07 ↗ school district uh project too the

11:10 ↗ school district is redeveloping this

11:11 ↗ property with a new campus which will

11:13 ↗ require relocating

11:15 ↗ um our our sell site the school

11:17 ↗ district's approved site development

11:19 ↗ plan allocates this location for the

11:21 ↗ replacement uh WCF and also

11:25 ↗ um

11:25 ↗ the uh the school district has selected

11:29 ↗ this particular location as the place

11:31 ↗ where they will allow the cell tower to

11:33 ↗ go as well

11:36 ↗ you can go back one

11:39 ↗ there we go

11:40 ↗ so the purpose of of this replacement is

11:43 ↗ to is to find a new home to be able to

11:46 ↗ kind of keep the lights on for three

11:48 ↗ existing carriers and then uh dish

11:50 ↗ Wireless is a new carrier entering the

11:52 ↗ market and they will also be asking to

11:55 ↗ relocate to to locate antennas on this

11:57 ↗ Tower in order to

11:59 ↗ um add a fourth choice of carriers for

12:02 ↗ the residents of this area

12:04 ↗ continuity of service and

12:07 ↗ keeping the lights on with the service

12:09 ↗ is really vital 911 services voice and

12:13 ↗ data services

12:14 ↗ as and certainly as we found with the um

12:17 ↗ during the pandemic the need and

12:20 ↗ Reliance on cell phones both in for work

12:23 ↗ for telemedicine at people's homes for

12:26 ↗ Education

12:28 ↗ um is is exploding you know definitely

12:30 ↗ we've seen no no reduction in the need

12:33 ↗ for cell cell phones and in fact they

12:36 ↗ have actually become kind of the remote

12:37 ↗ controls for our lives in a lot of ways

12:39 ↗ in the way we use cell phones so it is

12:42 ↗ the goal of this facility to have a

12:45 ↗ continuity of service for the residents

12:47 ↗ in this area and uh and then also to

12:50 ↗ offer the fourth choice of dish Wireless

12:55 ↗ and we do focus on Public Safety because

12:57 ↗ First Responders are very heavy users of

13:00 ↗ of all of the wireless networks

13:02 ↗ um and also because this this Community

13:05 ↗ campus will host

13:07 ↗ two schools cue the public safety

13:12 ↗ um we we know that that coverage and and

13:15 ↗ seamless wireless service is important

13:17 ↗ for for the campuses as well and for the

13:20 ↗ schools so service interruptions and

13:22 ↗ drop calls can impact the safety of the

13:25 ↗ community and the ability to connect to

13:27 ↗ 9-1-1 services in the event of an

13:29 ↗ emergency most people in in this state

13:32 ↗ rely on their wireless devices alone

13:34 ↗ rather than a landline to access e-911

13:38 ↗ services so it's uh it's it's very

13:40 ↗ important to the community and and to

13:42 ↗ the wireless carriers to to keep the

13:44 ↗ lights on here and without the

13:46 ↗ replacement facility that we're

13:48 ↗ proposing

13:49 ↗ um there's actually nowhere to go as as

13:52 ↗ you as you know if you're familiar with

13:54 ↗ this area it's surrounded by residential

13:56 ↗ that's not an allowed use in residential

13:59 ↗ areas and this particular location on

14:01 ↗ the campus is the one location that the

14:04 ↗ district is um is permitting us to go so

14:07 ↗ we're kind of down to

14:09 ↗ just one choice

14:11 ↗ next

14:13 ↗ so we're here to talk about a variance

14:16 ↗ of the hype restriction under the uh the

14:19 ↗ wireless code the wireless code limits

14:21 ↗ the height of a facility to 85 feet

14:25 ↗ um

14:26 ↗ this is a big problem for for this

14:28 ↗ particular facility it's it's Unique in

14:30 ↗ that we're going to host four carriers

14:32 ↗ on one Tower thus eliminating the need

14:35 ↗ for at for three additional Towers in

14:38 ↗ the area

14:39 ↗ um and because the tree line is

14:42 ↗ approximately 110 feet

14:45 ↗ the lowest carriers antennas have to

14:47 ↗ clear that tree line so the lowest

14:49 ↗ carriers antenna on the tower need to be

14:51 ↗ above the 110 feet and then there also

14:54 ↗ needs to be a separation in between each

14:56 ↗ carrier's antennas to avoid interference

14:59 ↗ so we know that um we actually had we

15:02 ↗ hired a an expert a third party

15:05 ↗ independent consultant to analyze the

15:07 ↗ needs of all of the carriers and we'll

15:09 ↗ be presenting that to the hearing

15:10 ↗ examiner but they have ascertained that

15:13 ↗ the pro proposed 150 foot height is the

15:16 ↗ minimum necessary to accomplish this to

15:19 ↗ clear the trees to have separation

15:21 ↗ between each carrier and also the top 10

15:25 ↗ feet of this will will actually not be

15:27 ↗ Wireless facility it's going to be a

15:29 ↗ tree topper to make a more natural shape

15:31 ↗ to the mono for design itself as opposed

15:34 ↗ to some I mean you've seen some of them

15:36 ↗ that kind of look like a Q-tip at the

15:37 ↗ top this brings a more natural sight

15:40 ↗ line to to the the monitor itself

15:46 ↗ so the in in in in asking for the

15:50 ↗ variance we realize that that you know

15:51 ↗ we need to demonstrate a need for this

15:54 ↗ um and we have been on this facility for

15:56 ↗ more than 10 years the uh carriers have

15:59 ↗ configured their networks around this

16:01 ↗ particular location to serve

16:03 ↗ um a very large area of of the the

16:07 ↗ community here and without a variance

16:10 ↗ what we anticipate is that there would

16:12 ↗ be uh a severe wireless service

16:14 ↗ disruption for the three major carriers

16:16 ↗ that are on that water tank today

16:18 ↗ thank you

16:19 ↗ as as we discussed earlier this location

16:22 ↗ is the only one available to serve this

16:24 ↗ this unique need because of the fact

16:26 ↗ that all of the carriers are are on it

16:29 ↗ we just need to go in this in the same

16:32 ↗ general spot and there is no alternative

16:34 ↗ for us here the monofer that we're

16:37 ↗ proposing is of the highest quality um

16:39 ↗ with branching that is dense and

16:42 ↗ concealing with a tree form that has

16:47 ↗ bark that looks like the surrounding

16:49 ↗ trees and we're also it's being cited in

16:52 ↗ the middle of

16:53 ↗ other trees that are of similar height

16:55 ↗ not not 150 feet but of similar height

16:58 ↗ to be able to screen most of the the

17:01 ↗ mono for facility

17:06 ↗ and this is a a map the green represents

17:09 ↗ the existing coverage

17:11 ↗ from the current three carrier

17:13 ↗ deployments this is excuse me the

17:16 ↗ coverage footprint that would go away

17:18 ↗ in the event that we could not replace

17:20 ↗ this facility on the site that we're

17:22 ↗ proposing

17:23 ↗ next slide

17:25 ↗ I'm gonna hand this over to Leela

17:27 ↗ and with that I'll step in I'm going to

17:30 ↗ give you some more of the technical

17:31 ↗ details of what's being proposed for

17:32 ↗ each carrier here and walk you through a

17:34 ↗ little bit more of the actual site

17:36 ↗ design so what you see here hold up come

17:39 ↗ on I'm just going to tweak that a little

17:40 ↗ bit so I can see it better

17:42 ↗ what you see here is an illustration

17:44 ↗ from the zoning drawings so here you see

17:48 ↗ this is the water tower site so down the

17:51 ↗ hill closer to Providence Loop Road is

17:53 ↗ where the Wireless Communications

17:54 ↗ facility is proposed it's as you see a

17:57 ↗ 60 by 60 foot square area

18:01 ↗ here is a photo of that proposed area to

18:04 ↗ give you an idea of the tree density

18:05 ↗ that you see there and the general

18:07 ↗ nature of that area also here you can

18:10 ↗ see Providence Loop Road right through

18:11 ↗ there so you see it's closer to the road

18:13 ↗ than the current water tower facility

18:17 ↗ another picture this is more with the

18:19 ↗ road to the back looking in to give you

18:21 ↗ a character of the of the trees there

18:23 ↗ what the ground generally looks like and

18:25 ↗ also what some of the surrounding

18:27 ↗ vegetation looks like I know we talk

18:30 ↗ about trees and forests and being in

18:32 ↗ trees but I have to say that this is an

18:34 ↗ area where it's really dense tree canopy

18:36 ↗ and dense mature trees

18:39 ↗ that's to our advantage because it does

18:41 ↗ screen the site

18:43 ↗ so here is the 60 by 60 foot area zoomed

18:47 ↗ in this is also from the zoning drawings

18:50 ↗ so what you see here in terms of the

18:52 ↗ actual facility itself you start with

18:54 ↗ the gravel access road so that's so that

18:56 ↗ maintenance Vehicles can approach the

18:58 ↗ facility and there's generally access to

19:00 ↗ the wireless facility each of the four

19:03 ↗ carriers who would have equipment on

19:05 ↗ this facility have an area where they

19:07 ↗ put their equipment

19:09 ↗ that area pardon me I need to get back

19:12 ↗ to my notes that area is approximately

19:15 ↗ 15 by 20 feet for each carrier

19:19 ↗ over here you see this little rectangle

19:21 ↗ there that's a shared generator that

19:23 ↗ would be used by all of the carriers

19:25 ↗ then we have the the entire area

19:28 ↗ surrounded by a six foot tall fence so

19:31 ↗ the area gets leveled there's a small

19:33 ↗ retaining wall and then the fence goes

19:35 ↗ around it to screen the equipment

19:36 ↗ there's also a landscape buffer

19:38 ↗ surrounding this so that there would be

19:40 ↗ additional tree planting requirements

19:42 ↗ and Landscaping further screening the

19:44 ↗ facility and then right in the middle is

19:46 ↗ the monofour tower so you see the

19:48 ↗ centrally located is where the actual

19:50 ↗ Tower would start

19:53 ↗ so there was a lot of thought and

19:56 ↗ consideration on the part of all the

19:57 ↗ carriers put into this design and again

19:58 ↗ I apologize some of the formatting got a

20:01 ↗ little bit tweaked in our presentation

20:03 ↗ crossover

20:04 ↗ um

20:05 ↗ so as Kim had alluded to this is a very

20:07 ↗ high quality monitor for your design so

20:10 ↗ um monitors and and monopines all the

20:13 ↗ tree designs for wireless facilities

20:16 ↗ have come a long way in recent years and

20:18 ↗ this particular design with this monofer

20:20 ↗ is one of the densest tree branch

20:23 ↗ configurations that you can have and

20:25 ↗ it's also designed to be more like an

20:28 ↗ actual tree than some of the others you

20:29 ↗ might see

20:31 ↗ um the Landscaping provides natural

20:33 ↗ concealment and as I mentioned there's

20:36 ↗ also an additional landscape buffer

20:38 ↗ multiple carriers allows us to be allow

20:41 ↗ fewer Towers overall so by allowing this

20:43 ↗ one Tower it decreases the number of

20:46 ↗ towers but in this particular case the

20:49 ↗ Wireless Communications facility isn't

20:51 ↗ allowed use in the community facility

20:54 ↗ Zone and there are no other areas around

20:57 ↗ here that would really work for it

20:58 ↗ because of the being surrounded by

21:00 ↗ residential so so that's why we're

21:02 ↗ choosing this location I also just want

21:05 ↗ to point out that that lower slope is

21:07 ↗ also part of the reason why you see this

21:08 ↗ height being taller than it necessarily

21:11 ↗ would be up the hill because we do need

21:13 ↗ to clear that tree line

21:15 ↗ now let's talk about what clearing the

21:17 ↗ tree line means and what this is

21:18 ↗ actually going to look like from an

21:19 ↗ elevation perspective so you see down at

21:22 ↗ the bottom we've got the fence compound

21:24 ↗ so that's where all the equipment is

21:27 ↗ then as you go up the tree you get your

21:29 ↗ tree trunk

21:31 ↗ and then your 110 foot tall surrounding

21:33 ↗ trees the branches start at

21:35 ↗ approximately 50 feet

21:36 ↗ and then go and then you have the

21:38 ↗ locations of the carriers

21:41 ↗ right there behind it probably moving a

21:43 ↗ box so dish should be at the lowest

21:46 ↗ height on the tower with the top of

21:48 ↗ their antennas at approximately 110 feet

21:50 ↗ so

21:51 ↗ um so sometimes we get the question well

21:53 ↗ you know you're clearing the top of the

21:55 ↗ trees do you really have to be all the

21:56 ↗ way above the trees well if you're at

21:58 ↗ the highest point in the tree it's not

22:00 ↗ going to be quite as good for Signal

22:01 ↗ propagation but that's about as low as

22:03 ↗ you can go so the antennas are really

22:05 ↗ starting right at that place where the

22:07 ↗ foliage thins out and you can actually

22:09 ↗ get a good signal out

22:11 ↗ trees wood blocks Wireless communication

22:14 ↗ signals so Wireless communication

22:16 ↗ signals are generally line of sight not

22:19 ↗ 100 not a like we have RF Engineers who

22:23 ↗ would go into more detail with that but

22:25 ↗ um but generally the good way to think

22:27 ↗ about it is like a flashlight analogy

22:28 ↗ right so if you're in thinly branched

22:31 ↗ trees you get some like through a

22:33 ↗ Knuffle like through each of the

22:35 ↗ carriers has approximately 10 feet of

22:37 ↗ space so generally antennas are six to

22:39 ↗ eight feet tall and then there's a two

22:42 ↗ foot separation between the top of one

22:44 ↗ carrier's antennas the bottom of the

22:45 ↗ next carrier's antennas

22:47 ↗ so then going up the the monifor so dish

22:52 ↗ and then you've got a T and T then

22:54 ↗ T-Mobile and then Verizon and then that

22:57 ↗ stops at 140 feet the top 10 feet is the

23:00 ↗ canopy it's a part of the design from

23:04 ↗ this manufacturer that what it is is

23:07 ↗ additional branches to make it look more

23:08 ↗ like a natural tree

23:12 ↗ map

23:14 ↗ all right and then some more photo

23:16 ↗ simulations I appreciated the photo

23:18 ↗ simulation that Doug put up it was a

23:19 ↗ more of a zoomed in view I'm going to

23:21 ↗ just kind of Point here so you can see

23:23 ↗ and also in these photo simulations

23:25 ↗ you'll see that the um the monofer is a

23:29 ↗ slightly darker green

23:31 ↗ um and that's because it is hard to see

23:32 ↗ in a lot of these so we wanted to make

23:34 ↗ it so that you could actually pick it

23:35 ↗ out

23:36 ↗ um so right here is where you see it in

23:39 ↗ this simulation

23:41 ↗ then we've got right there in this one

23:45 ↗ and then here's I believe this is the

23:47 ↗ photo that Doug had zoomed in on so

23:49 ↗ there we go

23:50 ↗ and then here it's um right there

23:56 ↗ and then I know photos simulations it

23:57 ↗ can be difficult to to know whether this

24:00 ↗ is actually how it's going to look so

24:01 ↗ what we did is we asked the carriers to

24:03 ↗ let us know have you installed a similar

24:05 ↗ tree and it turns out that Verizon has

24:08 ↗ installed a very similar tree fairly

24:10 ↗ recently in the Pacific Northwest so we

24:12 ↗ had them send us their actual

24:13 ↗ construction photos of that tree so this

24:17 ↗ particular tree is going to be from

24:18 ↗ irshman engineering and this is another

24:20 ↗ ershman tree now that's not exactly the

24:22 ↗ design of our proposed tree it's a

24:24 ↗ different height this also this trunk

24:26 ↗ design is slightly different this is

24:28 ↗ just a painted brown trunk also our

24:31 ↗ proposed facility would have more

24:33 ↗ screening around it more natural

24:34 ↗ vegetation around it what I like about

24:37 ↗ these pictures is that they are more of

24:39 ↗ an unobstructed view of a faux tree than

24:41 ↗ you would see at this site so so they

24:43 ↗ give you a good idea of what the actual

24:45 ↗ monofer looks like

24:48 ↗ and that concludes our presentation

24:50 ↗ today so we're happy to answer any

24:52 ↗ questions and we've got representatives

24:54 ↗ of the industry with us as well if you

24:55 ↗ if there are any questions we can't

24:56 ↗ answer we're also happy to take back any

24:58 ↗ questions that we don't have expertise

25:01 ↗ to answer in the room thank you very

25:02 ↗ much thank you

25:04 ↗ thank you

25:06 ↗ we will now open the meeting for public

25:09 ↗ questions and comments

25:11 ↗ Jared has anyone signed up for comments

25:12 ↗ on this topic either in person or

25:14 ↗ virtually

25:15 ↗ no one has signed up in person but I

25:18 ↗ will open this up for anyone in the

25:20 ↗ audience if they'd like to raise their

25:21 ↗ hand we'll give you a few seconds to do

25:22 ↗ so and we can try and get you in

25:32 ↗ foreign

25:36 ↗ has indicated online but someone has in

25:39 ↗ person okay

25:41 ↗ for those making comments please direct

25:43 ↗ your comments and questions to the

25:44 ↗ applicant staff is here to answer any

25:47 ↗ questions about the review and permit

25:48 ↗ process but we ask that all questions

25:51 ↗ related to the site and design be

25:52 ↗ directed to the applicant and their team

25:55 ↗ as a reminder when it's your turn to

25:56 ↗ speak state your name

25:58 ↗ speak clearly and pause frequently and

26:00 ↗ limit your comments to five minutes

26:03 ↗ okay go ahead

26:23 ↗ that's great and if you can also

26:25 ↗ directly to an overview map that I can

26:29 ↗ easily access thank you

26:37 ↗ foreign

26:44 ↗ like to comment

26:58 ↗ so I had just three quick questions

27:06 ↗ um

27:07 ↗ uh as well excuse me could you go ahead

27:10 ↗ and turn on your mic for us

27:13 ↗ thank you there you go

27:17 ↗ yeah

27:18 ↗ um my first question has to do with the

27:20 ↗ as we know in the hearings and so forth

27:23 ↗ there is uh site contamination in that

27:27 ↗ area where the water towers were and

27:31 ↗ part of the conditions for approval of

27:34 ↗ the project was that it would be the

27:38 ↗ soil would be completely cleaned and

27:41 ↗ submitted

27:43 ↗ to the Department of ecology for

27:46 ↗ approval

27:48 ↗ before anything could proceed and so I'm

27:52 ↗ just wondering I realize this is very

27:53 ↗ early in the process but how that might

27:57 ↗ work out and if

27:59 ↗ if there is a plan

28:02 ↗ with the tower for when it comes to

28:06 ↗ work on that so how it would just

28:08 ↗ coordinate and then my second one has to

28:11 ↗ do with uh if you read the uh the staff

28:16 ↗ report and so forth for the project

28:19 ↗ there is throughout and throughout all

28:21 ↗ the hearings there was an assumption

28:23 ↗ that the Tau the new tower would be a

28:27 ↗ future in fact the word is used future

28:30 ↗ Tower after the project is completed

28:34 ↗ and so you know it's a little surprising

28:37 ↗ to see it here actually proposed before

28:40 ↗ the water tower is uh taken down and who

28:44 ↗ knows if it'll even ever be taken down

28:47 ↗ at this point so I'm wondering in doing

28:50 ↗ that I know the wording in the uh

28:54 ↗ for utility services on page 159 is that

28:58 ↗ a temporary cell tower on wheels will be

29:03 ↗ constructed

29:04 ↗ so I wonder if that's been considered

29:06 ↗ final thing and um and that has to do

29:09 ↗ with the Loop Road itself and I'm wading

29:12 ↗ into thick Waters here that I don't

29:14 ↗ understand myself but I'm reading the

29:17 ↗ staff report again on page 153 and there

29:22 ↗ is a special deviation simply to enter

29:25 ↗ have access to the Loop Road because of

29:29 ↗ the distance to the next intersection

29:32 ↗ and because of that short distance

29:36 ↗ only as it stated their only emergency

29:39 ↗ vehicles can use that entrance

29:43 ↗ now how that would relate to use for

29:47 ↗ your utility I don't know so those are

29:49 ↗ just questions I mean it's fascinating

29:51 ↗ and I appreciate

29:53 ↗ the opportunity to ask the questions

29:56 ↗ thank you thank you and is the applicant

29:59 ↗ able to address any of those right now

30:06 ↗ and we'll be happy to address this to

30:07 ↗ the best of our ability

30:08 ↗ um

30:09 ↗ so

30:10 ↗ as far as site contamination

30:12 ↗ my understanding is we'd be complying

30:15 ↗ with the requirements set by the school

30:16 ↗ district but I'm not certain of the

30:18 ↗ details there so we'll have to look into

30:19 ↗ that one in more detail um that's

30:21 ↗ certainly something I would expect would

30:23 ↗ be clarified before construction and the

30:27 ↗ wireless industry generally we deal with

30:29 ↗ evaluating the environmental conditions

30:31 ↗ of soils often and it is a standard

30:33 ↗ practice for us where there is no in

30:34 ↗ contamination to to deal with that soil

30:37 ↗ management so this is not something

30:39 ↗ that's out of the ordinary for us at all

30:41 ↗ frankly I just I'm not familiar with the

30:43 ↗ specifics of that particular element of

30:45 ↗ the larger plan so we'll have to look

30:47 ↗ into that well and then the tower piece

30:49 ↗ of of this construction has to comply

30:52 ↗ with the conditions of the larger plan

30:54 ↗ as well so we are thoroughly intend on

30:57 ↗ doing that and and would be held to that

30:59 ↗ by the school district as well yeah and

31:02 ↗ I think you you also had a question

31:03 ↗ about the future nature of the tower

31:06 ↗ um and uh that it was it was indicated

31:09 ↗ as a future Tower

31:10 ↗ um what what the four three carriers

31:13 ↗ learned is that um the the water tower

31:15 ↗ will be will be decommissioned it will

31:17 ↗ be

31:18 ↗ um

31:18 ↗ deconstructed and what we're trying to

31:21 ↗ avoid by being proactive here is is an

31:25 ↗ interruption and service because all

31:27 ↗ three carriers are on that water tower

31:29 ↗ literally wireless service in the

31:31 ↗ service area will go dark if if we don't

31:33 ↗ have an alternative and so this is the

31:36 ↗ proposed alternative so we've started

31:38 ↗ the process early so that we can try to

31:41 ↗ sync up with the school districts

31:43 ↗ demolition of the water tower which we

31:47 ↗ have heard is a certainty

31:49 ↗ um it's just a matter of the timing as

31:51 ↗ to when that happens but we would like

31:53 ↗ to make sure that that we're on air and

31:55 ↗ serving the community before anybody uh

31:58 ↗ starts knocking the tower down I think

32:01 ↗ um we'd like to be proactive and to add

32:03 ↗ to that a temporary facility may be

32:05 ↗ needed during construction so if there's

32:08 ↗ a if there's any kind of Gap especially

32:10 ↗ as equipment's being moved Etc but in a

32:13 ↗ perfect world the new tower is

32:14 ↗ constructed before the Old Tower goes

32:16 ↗ down

32:18 ↗ um I believe your third question was

32:19 ↗ pertaining to the access to the facility

32:24 ↗ um and um just so that you're aware

32:26 ↗ Wireless communication facilities don't

32:28 ↗ require a lot of vehicle access

32:30 ↗ generally technicians go out to visit

32:32 ↗ the site when there are particular

32:33 ↗ issues that need repair or or on a

32:36 ↗ quarterly basis so what you're you're

32:38 ↗ not going to see a large increase in

32:40 ↗ vehicle traffic here and in terms of

32:43 ↗ specifically the route that they could

32:44 ↗ take for Access that's something I'll

32:46 ↗ think we'll have to look into a bit

32:47 ↗ further as well but um but it should be

32:50 ↗ um you know very minimal impact in terms

32:52 ↗ of number trips Etc it is it's generally

32:53 ↗ not a large truck it's generally more of

32:55 ↗ a pickup size size truck that would come

32:57 ↗ out to do that and and I understand that

33:01 ↗ um we've talked about you know several

33:03 ↗ Alternatives because to The Loop Road

33:05 ↗ one might be across you know the other

33:08 ↗ part of the campus to come in you know

33:10 ↗ through the campus itself so we do have

33:12 ↗ some Alternatives in the event because I

33:15 ↗ know the Loop Road is kind of a movie

33:17 ↗ being discussion right now and certainly

33:21 ↗ we're not privy to those discussions but

33:23 ↗ we do have a plan B in the event that

33:25 ↗ that we can't use the Loop Road

33:38 ↗ associate planner gormick were you able

33:40 ↗ to find an answer to that previous

33:42 ↗ question so I think

33:44 ↗ I found the tennis court

33:49 ↗ a question

33:53 ↗ kind of the Southern portion along

33:54 ↗ Southeast 43rd way is that the tennis

33:56 ↗ court you're talking about yes it's by

33:58 ↗ the end yeah it's it's about 611 feet

34:03 ↗ of six 610 feet somewhere in that that

34:06 ↗ area as the growth lies

34:14 ↗ Doug your mic was not on

34:18 ↗ sorry

34:25 ↗ if I may um again Catherine Matthews

34:28 ↗ speaking

34:30 ↗ I think that your presentation was fine

34:32 ↗ it looks like a beautiful project and um

34:36 ↗ nicely done and a great idea to have one

34:39 ↗ Tower rather than three or four

34:41 ↗ my concern is I didn't hear anything

34:43 ↗ about the safety of having a cell phone

34:45 ↗ tower in the neighborhood and I

34:46 ↗ understand that the research literature

34:48 ↗ on this issue is

34:50 ↗ not uniform not complete

34:54 ↗ so would you care to address those

34:56 ↗ issues

35:03 ↗ so the tower has been designed and the

35:06 ↗ RF engineer that was hired to evaluate

35:08 ↗ the project has ascertained that even

35:12 ↗ with all four carriers maximum output

35:15 ↗ that this project will emit far below

35:18 ↗ the um the FCC limits for RF emissions

35:23 ↗ which is which is what the FCC requires

35:25 ↗ requires of us um I think it bear in

35:29 ↗ mind that that there there already is a

35:31 ↗ three carriers are already emitting and

35:33 ↗ their antennas are there no one has none

35:36 ↗ of the three existing carriers have

35:37 ↗ plans to um to accelerate or expand the

35:40 ↗ coverage that um that they're currently

35:43 ↗ providing they just want to replace it

35:45 ↗ so that it doesn't you know so that we

35:46 ↗ don't have have a gap in service so um I

35:50 ↗ wouldn't anticipate that the output

35:51 ↗ would would be any different uh but that

35:53 ↗ those documents uh are available with

35:55 ↗ our application which

35:57 ↗ just got filed and will be available the

36:00 ↗ public

36:01 ↗ soon

36:03 ↗ and we'd be happy to follow up and talk

36:05 ↗ to you about it once once those are

36:06 ↗ available

36:09 ↗ I'll just add since we're talking about

36:12 ↗ the application that was just filed

36:14 ↗ um the information will be on the active

36:17 ↗ project map with this project so if you

36:19 ↗ were able to access it the Community

36:22 ↗ Conference through the active project

36:24 ↗ map all of that information will be

36:26 ↗ there and if you have trouble accessing

36:29 ↗ it or there are problems uploading the

36:32 ↗ documents you can always email me and

36:34 ↗ I'd be happy to share any documents that

36:36 ↗ were submitted

36:40 ↗ foreign

36:43 ↗ Jared has anyone signed up to comment

36:45 ↗ online

36:47 ↗ no one has indicated that they would

36:48 ↗ like to speak okay

36:51 ↗ thank you all for your comments and

36:53 ↗ questions I will now open the floor to

36:56 ↗ Commissioners does anyone have any

36:58 ↗ questions or comments for applicant or

37:00 ↗ staff

37:03 ↗ commissioner Dillon

37:06 ↗ so you had mentioned that the existing

37:09 ↗ site has fairly dense mature uh trees

37:12 ↗ there and I was wondering what you've

37:15 ↗ done to try to minimize the impact of

37:18 ↗ the site on those trees or to mitigate

37:20 ↗ for loss of some of those trees

37:29 ↗ you may turn the mic on turning on the

37:33 ↗ mic as we speak the we we are part of

37:37 ↗ the um the district's tree mitigation

37:40 ↗ plan and so we are following

37:42 ↗ um the requirements of that plan in

37:44 ↗ terms of the trees that would be

37:46 ↗ um that would need to be taken down for

37:48 ↗ the for the site itself and also the

37:50 ↗ replacement ratios that are required so

37:52 ↗ we're a small part of a larger planet

37:57 ↗ detailed in the drawings that were

37:58 ↗ submitted to the application

38:07 ↗ um question

38:10 ↗ um what's the monofer made of

38:13 ↗ is it is it a metal structure or

38:20 ↗ so this is where I'm not an expert on

38:22 ↗ the various different kinds of plastics

38:25 ↗ but the pole itself is a steel muzzle

38:27 ↗ it's a it's a sturdy metal pole and then

38:30 ↗ the actual tips the little little

38:32 ↗ needles that come off of it are a

38:35 ↗ synthetic of plastic material and we'd

38:37 ↗ be happy to get more detail on

38:38 ↗ specifically what material for the

38:40 ↗ manufacturer I know we have that

38:41 ↗ somewhere but

38:43 ↗ um frankly yeah it's not um not

38:45 ↗ something I know throughout my head

38:46 ↗ various manufacturers use different

38:48 ↗ forms of plastic for different

38:50 ↗ durability and it's a material that's

38:53 ↗ designed to weather well and to um to

38:56 ↗ generally hold up in our environmental

38:58 ↗ conditions what order are the

38:59 ↗ maintenance requirements for the model

39:01 ↗ for as far as say a branch falls off or

39:04 ↗ so the wireless carriers have several of

39:07 ↗ these monofer style trees and generally

39:10 ↗ if something happens where the tree gets

39:12 ↗ damaged saying the wind storm something

39:14 ↗ comes off the the same maintenance

39:18 ↗ technicians who would go out for any

39:20 ↗ other kind of repair go out and you know

39:23 ↗ clean up that issue if there there is an

39:25 ↗ issue where something needs to be

39:27 ↗ replaced then that would be something

39:29 ↗ that would be ordered from the tree

39:30 ↗ manufacturer and then installed by a

39:32 ↗ group

39:32 ↗ one last question so you have an engine

39:34 ↗ generator is it uh actual gas fired or

39:37 ↗ diesel I believe it's diesel

39:40 ↗ and assuming you'll have a above ground

39:42 ↗ tank

39:43 ↗ Yes actually it's an integrated tank

39:45 ↗ with the unit so it's designed to have

39:47 ↗ the the could spill containment in the

39:49 ↗ actual unit itself out of the tank thank

39:51 ↗ you

39:52 ↗ also just to just to add on to Leela's

39:55 ↗ comments to answer your question

39:56 ↗ typically our maintenance requirements

39:58 ↗ for these are also included as a

40:00 ↗ condition of approval for um for the

40:03 ↗ project itself so more specifics can be

40:05 ↗ found there and and required by staff

40:08 ↗ that's that's customary

40:10 ↗ thank you

40:14 ↗ commissioner Gilbert

40:17 ↗ hi

40:18 ↗ um you said the trees are mature trees

40:20 ↗ are they going to get any taller than

40:23 ↗ 110 feet and if so will that interfere

40:25 ↗ with the cell phone coverage

40:28 ↗ um and if they interfere with the cell

40:29 ↗ phone coverage would they then be

40:32 ↗ removed and replaced thank you

40:38 ↗ 110 feet is the approximately the

40:40 ↗ average height and we would expect you

40:43 ↗ know some of those trees will will

40:44 ↗ exceed their lifespan others will grow

40:46 ↗ tall no there would not be plans to

40:49 ↗ remove trees for the sake of the cell

40:51 ↗ phone signal that is part of the reason

40:53 ↗ why it's so important to be at or above

40:55 ↗ the tree line because we need to plan

40:57 ↗ over time and 110 feet is pretty typical

41:01 ↗ for standard mature trees we don't

41:04 ↗ expect a lot of interference but we do

41:06 ↗ expect Yes trees grow and and there will

41:08 ↗ be some amount of growth and in that

41:10 ↗ case that we would not be removing trees

41:13 ↗ for that reason

41:16 ↗ commissioner Brennan

41:19 ↗ thanks chair Shore

41:20 ↗ um the photo simulations showed the

41:24 ↗ existing trees there

41:26 ↗ will at completion of the school

41:29 ↗ projects well those trees remain or are

41:31 ↗ they part of what would be removed as as

41:34 ↗ part of the school project I want to

41:35 ↗ make sure that what we're seeing is

41:36 ↗ actually going to be the long-term

41:38 ↗ condition

41:40 ↗ the trees within the 60 by 60 foot

41:42 ↗ footprint of the of the lease site would

41:45 ↗ be removed

41:47 ↗ and uh and but additional trees are are

41:50 ↗ proposed as part of the landscape plan

41:51 ↗ to replace those but yeah we we can't

41:54 ↗ have mature trees within the the

41:56 ↗ compound itself I understand so let me

41:59 ↗ try to ask the question differently so

42:00 ↗ you showed some simulations driving up

42:02 ↗ the road for example and there were

42:04 ↗ large trees that were surrounding the

42:07 ↗ the uh the tower uh

42:10 ↗ the question is will those trees remain

42:13 ↗ after the school I haven't looked at I

42:15 ↗ don't remember the details of the school

42:16 ↗ of site plan

42:17 ↗ um but will those trees remain at the

42:19 ↗ completion of the school project or will

42:21 ↗ trees that were partially screening the

42:23 ↗ tower in those simulations to be removed

42:26 ↗ and therein lies the the challenge with

42:28 ↗ preparing photosimulations because

42:31 ↗ you know from the perspective that those

42:33 ↗ that the photo simulations are taken you

42:36 ↗ know you it looks like there's there's

42:37 ↗ dense trees and how many of those are

42:39 ↗ within the 60 by 60 foot

42:42 ↗ a footprint of this of the site is

42:44 ↗ something that that I don't know and

42:46 ↗ then we have been unable to model I

42:48 ↗ think

42:52 ↗ it was sad that um there is actually a

42:54 ↗ tree tension and Landscaping plan as

42:55 ↗ part of the school Redevelopment project

42:57 ↗ that we're complying with so there will

42:59 ↗ be some change to the tree canopy

43:01 ↗ um my understanding is that's been a

43:03 ↗ very thoughtful very well developed plan

43:04 ↗ and I know that we as part of our true

43:06 ↗ detection and Landscaping plan have had

43:09 ↗ to specifically identify uh trees that

43:11 ↗ we are are removing trees that will be

43:13 ↗ planted what kind of trees to be

43:15 ↗ consistent with that plan so so no it's

43:18 ↗ not exactly the same but my

43:20 ↗ understanding is that that's really

43:21 ↗ keeping with the same nature and the

43:24 ↗ goal is to keep the same the same

43:26 ↗ forested environment there and long term

43:29 ↗ okay

43:30 ↗ I understood that the need to remove the

43:32 ↗ trees in the footprint of the facility I

43:34 ↗ mean that that's clearly is necessary

43:37 ↗ um

43:38 ↗ and then as far as the height that's

43:41 ↗ been established so just doing some

43:43 ↗ quick calculations on what the existing

43:45 ↗ height is of the facility on the

43:47 ↗ facilities on the the water tower and

43:50 ↗ then what's being proposed

43:52 ↗ there's and I understand there's a

43:53 ↗ difference in elevation so that some

43:55 ↗ quick crunching here so my accuracy

43:57 ↗ might be off a little bit but this is

43:59 ↗ roughly

44:01 ↗ um about 40 feet taller than the highest

44:04 ↗ antenna on the existing the top of this

44:08 ↗ facility be about 40 feet higher than

44:10 ↗ the the antennas on the existing water

44:13 ↗ tower so that's more than the 10 plus

44:17 ↗ two that you said for each carrier

44:19 ↗ so can you I mean

44:21 ↗ we are this will be some distance 40

44:25 ↗ plus feet higher than the existing

44:27 ↗ facilities that's true that's true and

44:29 ↗ and part of the and is as outlined in

44:32 ↗ our RF justification for the height

44:33 ↗ itself

44:34 ↗ um one of the one of the challenges is

44:36 ↗ that this particular site has is lower

44:38 ↗ AGL than um than the existing water

44:41 ↗ tower site so we'll be losing some

44:44 ↗ elevation just in relocating the

44:46 ↗ facility itself and then adding the

44:49 ↗ fourth carrier

44:51 ↗ and the separation

44:52 ↗ the math is is detailed I think in the

44:57 ↗ RF justification report which we'd be

44:58 ↗ happy to pull out and email to you I

45:02 ↗ just the the point obviously is trying

45:04 ↗ to minimize you know the height as much

45:06 ↗ as possible

45:07 ↗ um yeah so that that's something

45:10 ↗ obviously we're not going to look at the

45:11 ↗ report here tonight but the only the

45:13 ↗ only um you know

45:15 ↗ optional component really is the tree

45:18 ↗ topper the top 10 feet are there for

45:20 ↗ aesthetic reasons to soften the the

45:23 ↗ profile of the tree they're not

45:25 ↗ functional to the tower itself or to the

45:27 ↗ the wireless uses but we find that

45:30 ↗ jurisdictions would prefer that to to

45:31 ↗ the alternative of a less natural

45:34 ↗ looking tree yeah

45:35 ↗ and then I think you stated this already

45:38 ↗ but this is a replacement not an

45:40 ↗ expansion of service area that would be

45:41 ↗ provided by this facility so it's it's a

45:44 ↗ replacement of the of the existing

45:46 ↗ service area for three carriers and then

45:49 ↗ dish Wireless will be added as a fourth

45:51 ↗ carrier choice but as far as a broadcast

45:54 ↗ area you showed a map of the broadcast

45:55 ↗ area that would essentially remain the

45:57 ↗ same yes that's the footprint of the

45:59 ↗ existing coverage okay

46:00 ↗ thank you thank you

46:03 ↗ it's approximately I think two square

46:05 ↗ miles and it is eighteen thousand

46:08 ↗ eighteen thousand customers that would

46:10 ↗ lose service

46:15 ↗ I had a couple similar questions to

46:18 ↗ commissioner Brennan

46:20 ↗ um

46:22 ↗ I I think the applicant should look at

46:25 ↗ the existing trees that will be

46:27 ↗ remaining on the School site and make

46:28 ↗ sure those are coordinated

46:30 ↗ um

46:32 ↗ and

46:34 ↗ it is

46:36 ↗ I don't I don't know cell tower

46:39 ↗ information or how those work but you

46:42 ↗ know all of the carriers are now

46:43 ↗ currently at the same height

46:46 ↗ they're actually not they are separated

46:49 ↗ um it's it's by um some distance from

46:52 ↗ each other

46:53 ↗ um vertically but they're also separated

46:56 ↗ quite a bit more horizontally which also

46:58 ↗ addresses the interference issues so now

47:00 ↗ we're going from the diameter of a water

47:02 ↗ tank

47:04 ↗ to

47:05 ↗ the trunk of a monopher and that has an

47:08 ↗ impact on on the the vertical separation

47:11 ↗ that you need

47:15 ↗ and do you know the schedule for the

47:17 ↗ water tower decommissioning

47:19 ↗ that is the five million dollar question

47:21 ↗ we do not know the schedule direct the

47:24 ↗ exact schedule for the the decommission

47:26 ↗ we just know that we need to be up and

47:28 ↗ running somewhere else when when they

47:30 ↗ decide and it from my understanding we

47:32 ↗ will get some notice but but uh not a

47:35 ↗ lot of notice that the decommission is

47:37 ↗ going to go forward

47:39 ↗ okay yeah I don't know if um

47:42 ↗ the the two schedules can be

47:44 ↗ combined somehow with the the permitting

47:47 ↗ process but that might make sense

47:49 ↗ any other commission comments

47:52 ↗ yeah uh sure one more quick um and this

47:55 ↗ is a question for staff and for the

47:58 ↗ Public's benefit can you well talk or

48:00 ↗ walk through the this process that this

48:03 ↗ goes this approval goes through in the

48:05 ↗ rough time frame that you think that

48:07 ↗ that would happen and how the how the

48:09 ↗ community can continue to engage along

48:11 ↗ the way

48:12 ↗ um yes I can I can address that

48:16 ↗ um so there are two land use permits

48:18 ↗ that are going to be or that were

48:20 ↗ submitted there's a variance application

48:22 ↗ and an administrative site development

48:24 ↗ permit application both of those require

48:26 ↗ public notice

48:28 ↗ um so another notice of application will

48:31 ↗ be sent out to

48:34 ↗ um the the adjacent properties within

48:36 ↗ 300 feet of this site and I I believe it

48:39 ↗ was 400 and something addresses and then

48:42 ↗ I was also sending it out to the parties

48:43 ↗ of record for this school district site

48:46 ↗ just to Encompass that as well so that

48:49 ↗ will go out within

48:51 ↗ roughly two weeks of submittal you can

48:56 ↗ provide comments after that notice of

48:59 ↗ application up into the point that we

49:01 ↗ have the hearing I would say with having

49:05 ↗ to look at the the RF study that was

49:08 ↗ provided we'll have to get a third party

49:09 ↗ consultant to look at that go through

49:12 ↗ the sipa environmental review

49:15 ↗ it will probably be

49:19 ↗ with with a couple rounds of review and

49:22 ↗ anticipate a couple rounds of review

49:24 ↗ probably a few months before we would

49:26 ↗ even have a hearing with the hearing

49:27 ↗ examiner so sometime sometime in

49:29 ↗ mid-winter

49:31 ↗ um following that then we can get into

49:34 ↗ construction permits those will tend to

49:37 ↗ go a little bit quicker there's a faster

49:40 ↗ timeline for wireless construction

49:41 ↗ permits than for regular building

49:44 ↗ permits so we'd have to get

49:48 ↗ the construction permits reviewed within

49:51 ↗ 60 days

49:53 ↗ so looking maybe summer

49:58 ↗ yep

50:05 ↗ any other comments

50:08 ↗ uh I do have one more question

50:09 ↗ commissioner short um

50:12 ↗ since the antennas on the existing Tower

50:14 ↗ are they on all sides of the the water

50:16 ↗ tower so so it's not like

50:19 ↗ their only broadcast in One Direction

50:24 ↗ or receiving

50:27 ↗ currently the antennas are on all sides

50:29 ↗ or are surrounding the water tower in

50:31 ↗ different placements for the different

50:33 ↗ asthma directions they need to assist

50:35 ↗ broadcast and if you think about the

50:37 ↗ nature of water towers generally bigger

50:39 ↗ and more round so right now there are a

50:42 ↗ couple different heights of antennas on

50:43 ↗ that water tower but they are spread

50:45 ↗ around the entire Tower

50:54 ↗ I believe we are done with commission

50:57 ↗ comments

50:59 ↗ were there any city council updates

51:01 ↗ staff would like to provide

51:04 ↗ uh just a brief update uh on December

51:07 ↗ 7th city council passed their first

51:09 ↗ biennial budget I'm taking into

51:12 ↗ consideration many of the things that

51:13 ↗ have been discussed here looking forward

51:15 ↗ to that moving forward in the next

51:17 ↗ couple years uh and we've touched on

51:19 ↗ this before but there is a contractor

51:21 ↗ code of conduct that that's been

51:22 ↗ developed with direction from city

51:24 ↗ council that will make its way to the

51:26 ↗ development commission likely in the new

51:28 ↗ year

51:29 ↗ with that uh just a general update on

51:32 ↗ Title 18 we are moving into the final

51:34 ↗ Consolidated draft so taking all of the

51:37 ↗ the parts all of the the buckets pulling

51:40 ↗ them all together into one Consolidated

51:42 ↗ form and the hearings will likely begin

51:45 ↗ starting in the New Year giving plenty

51:48 ↗ of time for digestion of that before PPC

51:51 ↗ takes on the public hearing

51:54 ↗ there and just general calendar update

51:57 ↗ there does not appear to be anything on

51:59 ↗ the calendar for the development

52:00 ↗ commission for December we will know uh

52:03 ↗ within the next few days if there's any

52:06 ↗ projects that need to make it this way

52:08 ↗ so

52:09 ↗ that's it for me okay any other business

52:13 ↗ or announcements

52:14 ↗ okay there'll be no further business

52:17 ↗ before the commission I adjourned the

52:19 ↗ meeting at 7 26 pm

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