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Wednesday, August 17, 2022

7:00 PM · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Section
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2a
Minutes of July 6, 2022
packet pp.5–14
Staff report:
MINUTES Special Meeting DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION 6:00 p.m. Wednesday, July 6, 2022
2b
Minutes of July 20, 2022
packet pp.15–24
Staff report:
MINUTES Special Joint Meeting PLANNING POLICY COMMISSION & DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION 6:30 p.m. - Thursday, July 20, 2022
5. REPORTS
5a
City Council Update
Holly Keeton, Senior Planner
6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
6a
Upcoming Schedule
packet pp.85
Staff report:
OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS a) 2022 Development Commission Schedule (tentative) (updated 8/11/2022)
0:07 good evening and welcome
0:09 i'd like to call the august 17th meeting
0:11 of the city of issaquah's development
0:13 commission to order at 7 pm
0:16 as a reminder we do still have a remote
0:19 aspect to our meetings this means both
0:21 staff and members of the public may be
0:23 participating in the meeting remotely
0:25 via webex
0:27 so our first item of business tonight is
0:29 to take action on meeting minutes for
0:31 july 6 and july 20th we have in our
0:33 agenda packet
0:35 are there any corrections to the july 6
0:37 meetings provided in the packet
0:41 hearing none the minutes are approved
0:43 and are there any corrections to july
0:45 20th minutes in the agenda packet
0:49 thank you hearing none the minutes are
0:50 approved
0:52 next i'd like to open the floor for any
0:54 members of the public in person or
0:56 virtually who would like to make a
0:58 general comment not about the towns on
1:01 issaquah project but on general topics
1:04 there will be an opportunity later in
1:05 the meeting for those who'd like to
1:07 comment about the project on tonight's
1:09 agenda
1:10 those who are in person and signed up in
1:12 advance to make comments will be called
1:14 on first
1:15 if you're in the room and you didn't
1:17 sign up i will ask for other speakers
1:19 before closing this portion of the
1:21 meeting
1:23 if you're joining us by computer or
1:25 smartphone via webex and you'd like to
1:27 make a comment please raise your virtual
1:29 hand this varies by device
1:33 one option may be to go to the
1:34 participant panel and choose the raise
1:37 hand icon in the lower right corner it
1:39 may also be located on the under the
1:41 reactions menu or the more menu
1:44 if you're on the phone and not a
1:45 computer press star 3 on your phone
1:49 for those making comments please direct
1:51 them to the development commission
1:53 for in-person attendees please step up
1:55 to the lectern for meeting attendees
1:57 participating virtually when you're
1:59 recognized please unmute your microphone
2:02 when it's your turn to speak state your
2:04 name each time before speaking
2:07 speak clearly and especially if you're
2:09 attending remotely pause frequently and
2:12 please limit your comments to five
2:14 minutes if you're attending virtually
2:16 and do not respond after your name or
2:18 phone number is called or if your
2:19 connection is lost the meeting will need
2:21 to proceed you're encouraged to rejoin
2:24 the meeting if you're able to do so
2:27 mr padua has anyone signed up to make
2:29 general public comments tonight yes sir
2:32 we have several members of the audience
2:33 signed up um
2:36 but in recognition of tonight's public
2:38 hearing is there anyone that wants to
2:40 make public comment on general public
2:42 comment not on the public hearing at
2:43 this time
2:44 can you raise your hand
2:47 the no chair no one wants to make
2:48 general comment at this time
2:51 alrighty thank you is there anyone
2:53 online who would like to make a general
2:55 comment
2:56 not seeing any raised hands
3:02 no chair
3:03 okay thank you
3:04 so we'll move on to the main agenda item
3:06 of the evening the community conference
3:08 for towns on 7th
3:10 the purpose of this meeting is to
3:12 provide the community an opportunity to
3:14 participate in the permitting process
3:17 generate discussion
3:18 and understand the proposal with
3:20 particular focus on critical areas on
3:23 and off the project site
3:25 the order of tonight's meeting will be
3:27 staff presentation first and then there
3:29 will be an applicant presentation there
3:32 will then be opportunity for public
3:33 comment and finally comment and
3:36 questions by the development commission
3:38 so first we'll proceed with staff's
3:40 presentation i believe miss holly keaton
3:44 is ready to go so miss keaton please go
3:46 ahead with your presentation whenever
3:48 you are ready
3:53 good evening thank you and thank you
3:55 everyone for participating tonight and
3:58 taking time out of your evening to be
4:00 here to provide comments and to be
4:02 involved
4:04 i will start my presentation in just a
4:07 moment please note that in the virtual
4:09 world we do have just a slight delay
4:26 okay so
4:27 tonight we are having a community
4:30 conference
4:31 and the purpose of the community
4:33 conference as was previously mentioned
4:40 is to encourage early public
4:43 participation and to foster discussion
4:47 between the community the development
4:48 commission and the applicant and look at
4:51 big picture issues
4:53 and to work together
4:55 to allow the development commission and
4:58 the community
4:59 to provide creative ideas possible
5:01 solutions and feedback to the applicant
5:04 on their project proposal
5:08 this project proposal is in the south
5:11 portion of central issaquah at the
5:13 intersection of newport way and
5:16 northwest hawley
5:17 it is approximately 1.3 acres
5:21 the proposal is 29 home units
5:25 and it is proposed to be in separate
5:28 seven separate buildings
5:30 there will be
5:31 58 parking stalls that
5:34 will be required with those with those
5:36 individual units
5:38 an internal access road is proposed with
5:41 a through block passage
5:44 and frontage improvements along 7th
5:46 avenue holley and newport
5:52 the permitting process generally
5:54 speaking is that the applicant will
5:57 be submitting shortly after this meeting
6:00 after they are able to hear
6:02 comments from the public and the
6:04 development commission and consider any
6:06 impacts to their current plans
6:09 they will be proposing a binding site
6:11 plan and site development permit which
6:13 will be reviewed along with cipa
6:16 once staff has done review of the
6:18 proposal and is able to provide a
6:20 recommendation to the development
6:22 commission we will come back to the
6:24 development commission and the
6:25 development commission will hold a
6:27 public hearing
6:29 if the development commission is able to
6:31 approve what is proposed the applicant
6:34 will be able to move forward with
6:36 construction permits
6:41 to go a little bit more in depth on the
6:42 site
6:43 as i mentioned earlier it's about 1.3
6:46 acres and it is comprised of a total of
6:49 six parcels they are listed over on the
6:51 left hand side of the slide
6:54 this is within the central issaquah area
6:57 and it is in the mixed use residential
7:00 zone
7:02 the proposed project is aligned with the
7:04 comprehensive plan
7:07 the applicable standards are found
7:09 within central issaquad development and
7:11 design standards and the architectural
7:14 and urban design manual also applies
7:18 the applicant has proposed arts and
7:20 crafts architectural style
7:22 the urban design manual outlines that
7:25 the key components to that architectural
7:28 style are that the masking is
7:30 asymmetrical
7:31 that it is comprised of steeply pitched
7:33 roofs
7:34 gabled or hipped roofs and dormers
7:37 intersecting ridges and upper level
7:39 balconies
7:40 this scale should be no greater than
7:42 five stories in height and there should
7:45 be height variation to add visual
7:48 interest
7:49 the materials for arts and craft style
7:51 are
7:53 rustic stones stucco brick
7:56 and simulated wood
7:58 as well as real wood
8:00 masonry base and decorative
8:03 brick patterns throughout
8:06 a maximum of three of these types of
8:08 materials may be used
8:10 and the color palette is to be warm
8:12 whites grays olives browns
8:16 and
8:17 natural colors such as wood stone and
8:20 masonry
8:23 the windows should be double hung fixed
8:25 or a combination thereof rectangular or
8:28 arched with a brick or stone surround
8:31 they should be simple
8:33 and the doors should kind of match this
8:35 design so they should also be
8:39 aligned with the style of the windows
8:41 and glass lit or full light glass doors
8:44 and brick and stone brick and or stone
8:47 surround should be at the doorway as
8:49 well
8:50 the roof should be asphalt shingles
8:52 medium to dark earth tones
8:55 wood or simulated wood shingles
8:57 plate concrete or clay
9:01 this project will
9:03 require
9:04 improvements to circulation facilities
9:07 it will require both frontage
9:09 improvements as mentioned earlier
9:11 and through block passage so first let's
9:13 look at the streets where the project
9:16 runs
9:17 the sprints on newport way which is
9:19 considered a parkway in the central
9:21 island standards
9:23 and the development standards that apply
9:25 to a parkway are a six foot sidewalk six
9:29 foot landscaping strip
9:31 five foot bike lane 11 foot travel lanes
9:34 and 12 foot median and turn lanes
9:38 there is a project already in the works
9:40 through public works
9:42 city projects and it is um
9:45 a roundabout that is going to be
9:47 completing the design phase pretty soon
9:50 and and it will be implemented in the
9:52 next uh probably five
9:54 years or so
9:56 so the developer is required
9:59 to work very closely with
10:01 with public works and cpd community
10:04 planning and development on the design
10:06 of the frontage for newport
10:08 and that discussion uh is ongoing
10:11 northwest hawley and 7th avenue are
10:14 currently unclassified streets and the
10:16 central isoqual plan and they are to be
10:19 determined at time of development
10:21 communication with public works has
10:23 identified that the most
10:25 closely related street classification is
10:27 a core street
10:29 for both of these
10:31 however the difference is that on 7th we
10:33 will be requiring on-street parking
10:38 each street will require eight foot
10:40 sidewalks six-foot landscaping strip
10:42 five-foot bike lane 10-foot travel lane
10:45 and then on seven an additional eight
10:47 foot wide parking strip
10:52 the through block connection is proposed
10:56 go from newport to 7
11:00 and it will also be
11:02 going to the north on the site to
11:05 service units 25-28
11:10 it's going to be a 20-foot
11:13 block passage with a 10 foot path and 5
11:16 feet of landscaping and amenity space on
11:19 both sides
11:22 the project is required to meet the tree
11:24 preservation standards outlined in
11:26 central issaquah plan
11:28 the minimum tree density is four
11:31 significant trees per five thousand
11:33 square feet of developed developable
11:35 area
11:36 the applicant is proposing a developable
11:39 area of approximately 56 000 square feet
11:44 so you can see that that will equate to
11:47 45 trees to meet the minimum density
11:50 tree retention is going to be 25
11:53 of the total caliper of all significant
11:55 trees
11:56 and according to the information that
11:58 the developer has provided at this stage
12:01 it looks like approximately 45 inches of
12:04 existing caliper
12:06 shall be remained
12:08 retained and that is able to be
12:11 subtracted from the total minimum
12:13 density so if there is
12:15 two trees on site that
12:18 equal 45
12:20 inches cal per total
12:22 then that those two will be subtracted
12:24 from the 45 and the developer will be
12:27 required to plant 43.
12:31 to stay informed on this project please
12:33 contact me directly via email or
12:36 my phone number which is listed on the
12:37 screen here
12:39 and to give you just a little bit of a
12:40 heads up the image at the top is what we
12:43 have seen
12:45 the proposal
12:47 planning to move forward with
12:52 yep
12:54 we'll now transition to
12:57 the presentation by
12:59 the applicant
13:02 thank you miss keaton so now we'll
13:03 proceed with the applicant's
13:04 presentation i believe by their
13:06 architect alex klossy am i mangling your
13:10 name i'm afraid
13:12 okay close good
13:14 and he'll provide information about his
13:16 team and the project during his
13:17 presentation
13:33 testing okay
13:36 uh hello my name is alex klossie uh i'm
13:39 an architect with millbrand architects
13:42 and i'm working with
13:44 blue friends development team on this
13:45 proposal i want to thank
13:47 all of you guys for coming out tonight
13:50 to um
13:53 hear about our project and we look
13:55 forward to
13:56 kind of giving you a brief overview of
13:58 it and and giving you guys a chance to
14:01 see what we're proposing and and give
14:03 your input i want to thank the chair and
14:04 the development commission um for taking
14:07 the time to to hear our proposal as well
14:09 and
14:10 we we look forward to
14:12 working with you guys to develop
14:14 something that the city and the
14:16 applicant team are both happy with and
14:18 proud to move forward with
14:21 so the the name of the project right now
14:23 is towns on seventh and we're proposing
14:26 to build
14:27 for sale townhomes um how if you want to
14:30 flip to the next slide
14:36 i want to take a minute to introduce our
14:39 team on the applicant side as i said i
14:42 am alex i'm with the arc on the
14:45 architecture side i'm here tonight with
14:47 us from blueprint development who's the
14:48 developer we also have michelle brandley
14:51 and george john
14:53 um and then with core design who is
14:55 going to be handling the landscape
14:57 architecture and the civil engineering
14:59 holly hebron
15:02 and then we have also brought on board
15:06 favreau green forest who is a
15:08 consulting arborist at this point in the
15:10 process he's been working with us on the
15:12 tree preservation of the existing trees
15:14 on site
15:15 and then we have a traffic engineer on
15:17 board 10w
15:19 and
15:20 mike crimmons they're not in attendance
15:21 tonight but they have been part of the
15:23 the team at this point and of course
15:26 there'll be other consultants that come
15:28 on board as
15:29 the project moves forward
15:32 so i apologize for some of
15:36 some redundant information in relation
15:39 the project in sight that holly may have
15:41 just went over
15:42 but just to kind of start at a high
15:44 level
15:46 as holly had mentioned the site is
15:47 located at the intersection of newport
15:50 way
15:51 and holly street and then also bounded
15:53 on the eastern side by 7th
15:56 and the northern property line kind of
15:59 jogs
16:00 along the the bounding edge of those
16:03 parcels and is
16:05 bounded to the north by some residential
16:07 neighborhoods and then
16:09 also the the storage facility that is
16:12 along newport way
16:13 across holly street to
16:15 the south of the site is an elementary
16:18 school
16:21 as is shown on this slide right here you
16:23 can see
16:24 the with the improvements that will be
16:26 proposed as part of this project there
16:28 is a
16:29 a safe walk trail to the elementary
16:32 school from the development
16:35 the
16:36 the project
16:38 scope consists of six parcels which are
16:41 listed there on the screen
16:43 uh those parcels are currently zoned uh
16:45 m-u-r or multiple or sorry mixed-use
16:48 residential
16:50 the stated intent of that zone within
16:54 the central issaquah design standards is
16:57 to provide
16:59 low to medium density housing that
17:02 provides a transition from
17:04 the more dense urban core
17:06 to the the less dense surrounding
17:08 neighborhoods so our proposal is
17:11 seeking to fulfill that requirement by
17:14 providing
17:15 some high quality
17:17 medium density townhomes that
17:20 that
17:22 blend in with the surrounding context of
17:24 the this single family neighborhood
17:26 while providing
17:27 a bit more housing density
17:29 in the region and in the area
17:33 the
17:34 site square footage
17:35 is approximately the site area is
17:38 approximately 1.3 acres there will be a
17:40 few dedications
17:42 to right-of-way as part of the proposal
17:45 so the net developable area will fall
17:49 somewhere just under 1.3 acres once
17:52 those dedications are made
17:54 and the maximum density
17:57 or the the maximum far which is the
18:00 governing density for the site is 2.0
18:03 and you can see that our proposal
18:05 falls at
18:07 0.93 right now so we're
18:10 well under the maximum density allowed
18:12 on site
18:16 if you want to flip to the next slide
18:18 thank you
18:20 so just a brief overview of more of the
18:22 details of the project specifically
18:25 and this image up here on the screen is
18:27 the current proposed site plan for the
18:30 project
18:31 as holly had mentioned it consists of 29
18:34 townhome units
18:37 what is actually six buildings so i
18:39 apologize holly
18:41 i did not catch that in your
18:42 presentation
18:45 and
18:46 interwoven amongst those buildings
18:49 will be the through black passage as was
18:51 mentioned
18:52 in other public community green spaces
18:55 as well as the internal drive access for
18:58 the site which will provide access to
19:00 all of the unit garages which contain
19:03 all the required parking for the units
19:07 and then
19:08 along the frontages as has been
19:10 discussed um there will be the the
19:12 proposed french improvements in
19:14 alignment with the city public works
19:16 requirements
19:18 along 7th avenue
19:20 uh holly street and newport way
19:25 at the very beginning of this process
19:28 we as applicant team sent
19:31 a consultant out to observe the site for
19:33 critical areas it was determined that
19:35 there were none on site
19:37 and that was in alignment with what the
19:40 city has mapped for the site as well
19:43 there are several existing significant
19:45 trees on site so you can see on the site
19:47 plan here
19:48 the
19:49 two trees that are a darker green color
19:52 towards the north of the property are
19:54 what we are currently proposing to meet
19:56 the retention requirements
19:58 in addition to that there are several
20:00 trees on the properties directly to the
20:02 north of ours
20:04 that will need to be protected through
20:06 the process as well so there
20:07 there's only two on our site but there's
20:09 quite a few trees that are being
20:11 protected along that northern property
20:12 line
20:14 oh if you want to flip to the next one
20:16 that would be great
20:21 so for the site improvement
20:24 as was mentioned there is an ongoing
20:28 project within public works
20:30 to implement a roundabout at the
20:32 intersection of newport and holly street
20:37 the
20:38 this has
20:39 been something that our applicant team
20:40 has been aware of from the very
20:42 beginning and we have been working
20:44 with uh the planning department and with
20:46 public works to
20:49 site plan our site in a manner that
20:53 is congruous with the proposed plans for
20:55 that
20:56 the roundabout right now is still in the
20:58 design stage so things are still a
21:00 little bit fluid and the roundabout
21:03 project itself would not be included in
21:05 the scope of of this proposal but the
21:08 intent is to design a site that allows
21:10 for that project to proceed
21:13 as planned and provide the flexibility
21:15 and the in the land dedication for them
21:17 to be able to complete for the city to
21:18 be able to complete that
21:20 as that project moves forward
21:22 um the holly street much of the frontage
21:25 of holly street is
21:27 going to be
21:29 to some extent tied up with that
21:31 roundabout improvement as well
21:34 how if you could flip back to the
21:36 previous slide really quick
21:38 that would be helpful
21:42 so here on this image on the left side
21:44 of the screen you can actually see
21:47 the plans that were provided to us by
21:49 transportation for the proposed
21:51 roundabout
21:52 that we've kind of ghosted in behind our
21:54 site plan to show
21:56 at least at this stage what the proposal
21:59 is and how it would um relate to the
22:02 site plan that we currently have
22:05 moving forward how you can go back to
22:07 the next slide thank you i appreciate it
22:09 moving forward that will continue to be
22:11 an ongoing discussion with the city
22:14 it's something that has been talked
22:16 about through the pre-op process and
22:17 leading up to this meeting
22:19 and
22:20 what
22:21 what improvements occur along holly
22:24 street in newport way are something that
22:26 we're still trying to
22:28 understand and seek guidance from on the
22:30 city in relation to the roundabout
22:32 project
22:33 since that will at the end of the day be
22:36 what comes in and is installed there but
22:38 may be lagging behind this proposal
22:43 along 7th avenue as was mentioned
22:46 there'll be
22:47 the improvements to the drive lanes
22:50 on-street parallel parking provided as
22:52 well as the landscape landscape strip
22:55 and sidewalk
22:57 and then
22:59 there obviously will be utility and
23:01 infrastructure improvements as is
23:03 required
23:04 by the city and public works to support
23:06 this added density and development
23:10 and uh holly on our team has been taking
23:13 point and running all that stuff so if
23:16 if you have further questions about that
23:18 she's happy to to give you some more
23:20 answers there
23:22 and then finally going back to the tree
23:24 retention the site plan here you can see
23:27 along the that northern property line at
23:30 the top
23:31 that highlights both the on-site and
23:33 off-site trees that are proposed to be
23:35 retained as well as uh the just the
23:38 overall landscape plan showing um the
23:40 various trees and plantings that are
23:42 intended to meet the um
23:45 canopy
23:46 or the canopy percentage for the site
23:56 thank you
23:57 so i just wanted to take a little bit of
23:58 time here to talk
24:00 more in depth about the through block
24:02 passage
24:03 and community spaces on the site in
24:05 response to the central squad district
24:07 standards
24:10 the
24:11 the district standards require
24:15 or encourage
24:17 us to provide
24:18 connection between
24:21 the major the existing right-of-ways in
24:23 a block in the form of a through block
24:25 passage and so our site plan has sought
24:30 provide that as a amenity that would be
24:33 not just for the residents of the site
24:34 but for the public at large
24:37 it runs between newport way on the
24:39 western edge and 7th avenue or 7th on
24:42 the eastern side
24:44 and in the central location of the site
24:47 we're proposed to put
24:49 a community gathering area um which is
24:52 is schematically represented by
24:55 that image on the top of the screen with
24:57 some barbecues and picnic facilities a
24:59 place where residents can come together
25:02 and interact with each other
25:05 as well as an open lawn area just a
25:08 place to provide gathering and
25:11 a node along the three block passage to
25:14 enliven that space
25:16 in addition the three block passes
25:18 extends to the north
25:20 in alignment with the
25:22 uh issaquah district standards for
25:26 ensuring that front doors of units the
25:29 main unit entries open onto a primary
25:31 through block passage so
25:33 the
25:34 four units that are to the north
25:37 in building five on the site plan
25:40 all front a through block passage which
25:42 gives them a 20 plus foot separation
25:45 from that property line
25:50 holly if you want to go ahead and flip
25:52 to the next one
25:56 so this this slide here is talking more
25:59 directly about the vertical architecture
26:01 the townhome architecture itself
26:04 and that will be
26:05 in response to the urban architecture
26:07 and urban design manual that is the
26:10 guiding basis for
26:11 our thought process on the design
26:14 holly laid out
26:16 very succinctly in her slides the
26:18 requirements
26:20 for those
26:21 and you can see this image that is up
26:23 here to the left
26:24 is our proposal for
26:26 a typical townhome building on site
26:30 we are proposing
26:32 in alignment with the
26:34 arts and crafts style
26:35 steeply pitched roofs and gable forms
26:38 with intersecting ridges
26:40 you can see some variations in height
26:43 along the roof line there
26:45 and as well
26:47 with this being a three-story townhome
26:48 building but some of the units having a
26:50 habitable attic space
26:52 a very variation along the e line of the
26:54 building that helps break up the massing
26:58 and and
27:00 kind of keep things at more of a human
27:02 scale
27:04 for materials we're proposing
27:07 a brick material
27:10 which provides a strong base along
27:13 the bottom of the building as well as
27:15 elevating that up up to three stories in
27:18 some locations as a
27:21 focal point
27:22 along the facade
27:24 and then the remainder of the facade
27:26 would be clad
27:28 in simulated wood
27:29 [Music]
27:30 that is painted
27:33 for the window treatments um in
27:35 alignment with the district standards
27:37 we're proposing single hung windows and
27:39 groupings of one two or three
27:42 um simple rectangular forms with just
27:45 simple trim
27:46 or in the case of
27:48 them being located within the brick
27:50 facade highlighted by
27:53 or more ornate brickwork
27:56 full light glass entry doors and for the
27:58 color scheme
28:01 in line with
28:02 earth tone colors whites
28:04 grays dark grays
28:06 a dark asphalt shingle roof
28:13 if you want to go ahead and flip to the
28:14 next slide
28:18 again i want to thank both the
28:20 commission and the community residents
28:22 for taking their time to come out and
28:24 hear our presentation tonight
28:26 moving forward
28:28 we are looking to make the site
28:30 development permits the middle of sdp
28:32 submittal
28:33 and that is reviewed by city staff
28:36 um and then
28:38 there is an amount of back and forth
28:40 with them to
28:42 come to agreement on a proposal that
28:44 satisfies all city regulations
28:46 that would go back before this
28:47 development commission for public
28:50 hearing and approval at the end of that
28:52 process
28:53 and then moving forward from there we'd
28:55 have the opportunity to submit for our
28:56 building permits
28:58 thank you again for taking the time to
29:00 see our proposal please let us know if
29:02 you have any questions
29:04 and we look forward to working with the
29:06 community of this club to provide a high
29:07 quality project thank you
29:11 thank you mr klossie so now i'm going to
29:13 open the floor for public questions and
29:15 comments
29:16 for those making comments please direct
29:18 your comments and questions to the
29:20 applicant the staff is here to answer
29:22 any questions you have about the review
29:24 and permitting process but i ask that
29:26 all questions related to the site and
29:28 design be directed to the applicant and
29:31 its design team as a reminder when it's
29:34 turned to speak state your name each
29:36 time before speaking speak clearly and
29:38 limit your comments to five minutes
29:41 after a comment or question has been
29:42 stated the applicant or someone from the
29:45 design team will provide a response
29:48 mr patch was anyone signed up for
29:50 comments on this topic
29:52 yes sir we have john
29:54 falstrom signed up first
30:02 good evening
30:04 my name is john falstrom and i live at
30:06 885 7th avenue northwest
30:09 first let me say that i'm not
30:11 anti-growth
30:12 and i don't want to come across as the
30:14 old curmudgeon on the block
30:17 but i want what happens in my town and
30:20 i've lived here since 1965
30:22 to make sense i have several concerns
30:25 about the proposed towns on seventh
30:28 development
30:29 density traffic parking and the
30:32 environmental impacts are my major
30:35 concerns first on the issue of density
30:38 and mind you i'll clarify this by saying
30:40 that
30:41 this is what i was able to get off the
30:43 city's website so
30:45 if it's in error i
30:47 am open to being corrected
30:49 currently that the property stated for
30:51 development is has four single family
30:53 residences on it
30:55 unoccupied uh for the most part
30:58 sorry
31:00 the proposed project is stated to have
31:02 29 multi-family units that's a 725
31:05 percent increase
31:08 the current zoning is mixed use
31:09 residential acknowledged by the
31:12 proponent
31:14 and a density factor
31:16 and and and mixed-use residential what i
31:19 was able to determine 14.52
31:21 dwelling units per acre
31:25 using that factor the maximum number of
31:27 units should be just under 19 at 18.87
31:31 uh 29 units represent more than a 50
31:34 percent increase in what i was able to
31:36 determine by the city standards
31:39 allowable under the current zoning
31:42 my next issue
31:44 and do you want me to stop and answer
31:46 that question or continue on with this
31:48 i'll
31:49 defer to guidance from the
31:52 commission what would you prefer mr
31:53 closing
31:54 would you like to respond to those two
31:56 first sure
31:58 um so appreciate
32:00 uh your questions and your concerns
32:03 um from a density standpoint uh one
32:06 thing that i did forget to mention is
32:08 the existing the current existing use of
32:10 the site so yes it is
32:12 um either vacant land or currently
32:14 single-family homes
32:16 as holly keaton had mentioned in her
32:19 presentation
32:20 uh the with the site being zoned for the
32:22 mur use
32:24 um and
32:26 being
32:27 the comprehensive plan designation for
32:29 that parcel being uh multi-family use
32:32 going forward
32:34 we believe that the city's intent for
32:36 those parcels is to bring more density
32:38 to the to
32:40 the those sites
32:43 and so basically what we have put
32:46 forward is a proposal that is in
32:48 alignment with what we believe the
32:50 city's goals to be as well as with the
32:52 the current zoning of the site
32:55 so the
32:56 there's a couple different ways for
32:58 density to be measured it can be units
33:00 per acre or this far mechanism so far is
33:04 the floor area ratio
33:06 and
33:08 out of the central island design
33:10 standards the far is what governs the
33:13 density on the site in this case
33:16 so at a 2.0 far we'd be allowed
33:20 essentially to build twice whatever the
33:22 site area is
33:24 our proposal is currently proposing 0.93
33:27 so we're falling well below that
33:29 threshold
33:31 all right i'll have to review that and
33:33 see how that
33:34 that that that provides quite a quite a
33:36 difference in what's published at 14 and
33:39 a half dwelling units per acre so
33:42 my next issue is the added traffic
33:43 impacts the development will have on 7th
33:45 avenue as that's
33:47 my frontage
33:49 7th avenue currently has is less than a
33:52 normal legal street width now
33:56 and at and it's 30 feet i've measured it
33:59 several times
34:00 with parking allowed on each side
34:03 at times reducing the the open traffic
34:06 flow to
34:08 essentially one lane uh at a time
34:11 and that's less than and being being
34:13 generous with uh carwith that saying
34:16 seven feet
34:18 that's less than the 20 feet required by
34:20 fire code
34:22 and and that's the entire street is
34:23 currently that way street was never
34:26 intended to serve the current traffic
34:28 volume
34:29 and the traffic volume is on file with
34:31 the city a study done
34:33 i believe about three years ago i have a
34:35 copy of that
34:36 it's more today by quite a bit
34:39 as to parking the residents on 7th
34:42 avenue already see the impacts of other
34:45 nearby developments and businesses many
34:48 times residents of the atlas and vale
34:50 apartments are forced to park south of
34:52 juniper on 7th as there are no spots
34:54 available near their buildings now
34:56 that's not an impact
34:58 it's not directly from your project
35:00 because it isn't there yet
35:02 add to that we absorb overflow parking
35:05 from aegis and occasionally the juniper
35:07 street professional building
35:10 and in looking
35:11 at the proposed
35:13 drawings of the towns on seventh project
35:15 it appears there are only four possible
35:18 spaces on the exterior
35:20 side of the garages where
35:23 where visitors might be able to park
35:26 with 29
35:28 units i think that there's going to be
35:30 plenty of visitors in there
35:32 uh where will they park
35:36 and i i appreciate the acknowledgement
35:38 of of providing for 58
35:42 parking spaces underneath the the
35:44 buildings as
35:45 that's the reality at today's price
35:47 point
35:52 the and i've heard you say that the the
35:54 driveway or the bump out that's shown on
35:57 the plan that was circulated
36:01 on 7th avenue will provide some
36:03 on-street parallel parking
36:05 and i don't think that's going to be
36:07 adequate but
36:09 and then the
36:11 other parking issue
36:14 um the city and i guess
36:17 i'm almost done the city is going to
36:19 need to acknowledge
36:22 how construction traffic is managed
36:23 during this project because there's no
36:26 unless the school district agrees to
36:28 absorb the
36:31 the project that's
36:33 anyway
36:34 regarding the pedestrian strap traffic
36:36 and the improvements that you do they're
36:38 great
36:39 they are a road to nowhere on 7th avenue
36:42 there is no transition from that project
36:46 to the major sidewalk improvements north
36:49 juniper on 7th
36:51 other than in front through my front
36:53 yard and so
36:55 i'd like to have
36:56 some discussion with somebody in the
36:58 planning department at some time to try
37:00 to figure out how that's going to work
37:02 because it's going to create
37:03 a very large number of pedestrian
37:06 walkways going to safeway any other
37:08 stores
37:09 and
37:10 they're just going to be on the street
37:11 which is a safety issue
37:14 i've got other things but that sums it
37:17 up for now and i appreciate the
37:19 opportunity to be able to bring this
37:20 forward
37:23 thanks mr clausie did you have any
37:24 response to the rest of that input
37:27 sure so again thank you um these are all
37:31 great points and concerns to raise
37:34 particularly for all of you who live in
37:36 the area who are going to see you know
37:37 the most direct impacts of this um i'll
37:40 try and kind of go through one by one
37:44 in relation to the streets and
37:47 parking and pedestrian to some extent
37:49 as was mentioned the 7th avenue
37:52 is currently unclassified in the
37:55 transportation plan
37:57 but that would be that's part of the
37:59 whole development process is to work out
38:00 a classification for that street
38:03 in relation to the street with itself we
38:05 would be providing 20 feet of pavement
38:08 to 10-foot travel lanes on each side and
38:10 then the parking would be outside of
38:12 that
38:14 the street and that's all really
38:17 dictated by public works and city
38:19 standards so
38:22 they have put you know much time and
38:25 resource into developing their
38:26 transportation plan and as part of our
38:29 project we would be required to make
38:30 those improvements on our side of the
38:33 site and in front of our site
38:35 to your point about what happens further
38:37 down the street
38:39 that would be that would fall outside of
38:40 the scope of this project and would be
38:42 something that's more on a
38:45 planning or transportation basis with
38:47 the city in terms of what their
38:48 long-term goals are for for that street
38:53 for in relation to parking
38:55 i will admit that this is always a
38:57 concern that comes up amongst the
39:00 community cars are big they take up a
39:02 lot of room
39:03 we have made a concerted effort to
39:05 provide two stalls for every unit in a
39:07 garage
39:09 the zoning
39:10 allows for less than that but we
39:13 as the
39:14 development team both from a market
39:16 value and just from a practicality
39:18 standpoint really feel that families
39:20 still are gonna have two cars and
39:22 they're gonna need a place to park those
39:23 cars um in addition you mentioned we do
39:26 have some open stalls on the site as
39:28 well to provide for guest parking
39:31 that's not necessarily a requirement by
39:33 the zoning code but it is something that
39:35 we've tried to provide as both an
39:37 amenity to try and keep cars off the
39:39 street as much as possible
39:44 thanks do we have another speaker signed
39:45 up to speak
39:47 yes chair we have john trager signed up
39:49 next
39:56 good evening my name is john trager i
39:58 live at 710 7th avenue northwest which
40:01 is directly across the street from the
40:03 proposed project
40:06 i am also a
40:07 current board member of the bridgewater
40:10 place condominium homeowners association
40:13 bridgewater's places all the
40:15 duplexes across the street
40:19 i've also served on the squad
40:20 development commission and have reviewed
40:22 the documents and i have some comments
40:24 here that have also been reviewed with
40:26 the other board members
40:28 so the first area is the building site
40:30 design
40:32 the massing scale materials and colors
40:34 all seem in context with the
40:36 neighborhood and the centrosqua
40:39 general zoning or our style so we
40:42 appreciate that
40:45 the lighting consideration needs to be
40:47 sensitive to the second floor bedrooms
40:49 and the condo streets across the street
40:53 those bedrooms face out and if they have
40:56 bright lights shining in probably make
40:57 it kind of hard to sleep for folks
41:01 traffic movement
41:03 speeds on 7th avenue northwest have been
41:05 high for years
41:06 despite community members complaining to
41:09 the city council in public works we've
41:11 been asking for a speed hump or some
41:12 means
41:14 to bring the speeds down when they did a
41:15 speed measurement there they were
41:17 hitting like 50 miles an hour
41:19 because
41:20 on the
41:22 west side of the street
41:24 there's no curb gutter sidewalk people
41:26 generally don't park there there's more
41:27 of a ditch
41:28 so the street looks physically wide and
41:31 people just hit the metal
41:33 and go fast down the street
41:35 and part of it is the success of the
41:38 apartment buildings that were built
41:39 further up on seventh
41:42 and the success of the
41:44 safeway complex and town center over
41:47 there a lot of traffic heading
41:49 southbound
41:50 on the newport
41:51 tends to come all the way down and then
41:53 turn on
41:55 holly street so something you want to
41:57 consider is
41:59 how that will work with two roundabouts
42:02 because people will want to do two
42:04 roundabouts they'll want to go all the
42:06 way down to hawley take one round about
42:08 to get a new port to go south because
42:10 that seems to be where most the flow
42:11 goes
42:12 that we see coming every day
42:18 and so
42:19 we'd like to have the
42:21 curb gutter and sidewalk
42:23 if possible with the entire length of
42:25 the street
42:26 to try to narrow it and slow it down so
42:28 if you look at the block north there on
42:30 7th north of juniper
42:33 they actually travel slower because it's
42:35 a very narrow street with parking on
42:36 both sides
42:38 and so we'd like to have something
42:39 similar if we can't get a speed hump at
42:41 least something has the same effect on
42:43 the speeds of the traffic
42:45 because all the houses on our side back
42:48 out onto that street so it's already
42:51 interesting enough
42:52 and one last consideration there in
42:54 traffic movement is with a single
42:56 driveway in and out of the proposed
42:58 project
42:59 strictly across from my
43:01 my driveway so i'm backing out and
43:03 having cars turning motion
43:05 and then cars coming down the street
43:06 it's going to be interesting
43:08 so i don't know if that one driveway is
43:10 going to work
43:12 perfectly well or safely so something to
43:14 consider there
43:18 there's no utility plan obviously it's a
43:20 little bit early
43:21 but a consideration so there's an
43:23 existing pole on the east side of 7000
43:25 northwest that services the
43:28 current buildings on the property
43:30 and it also services a couple of our
43:32 units because it was
43:34 came down the street to a pole then it
43:36 got underground from that location
43:39 so we'd like to see that all of it get
43:41 underground correctly
43:43 when you have to bring in undergrounding
43:45 for your utilities that you would
43:46 include ours and get rid of that pole
43:48 together bring it all underground like
43:49 it should have been done originally
43:52 um another question in that area is will
43:55 there be gas lines or is this going to
43:57 be an all-electric facility
44:01 and then another related question is
44:03 what is the power service will there be
44:05 power sufficient power for electric car
44:07 charging in these units
44:11 construction plans
44:14 what is the construction vehicle flow
44:16 plan there's a school across hawley that
44:19 a significant bus and car traffic during
44:21 the school year
44:22 in the mornings and afternoons
44:25 and there's insufficient pace space on
44:27 northeast 7th for truck turning radius
44:29 into the job site
44:32 so we propose that large vehicles such
44:34 as dump trucks flatbeds and concrete
44:36 trucks enter and exit from newport way
44:38 on a maybe a temporary work driveway
44:41 because it's it gets really busy there
44:43 during those times a day
44:46 also related to construction is where
44:48 will the employees park so
44:51 there's very limited parking as you've
44:53 already heard
44:55 so we propose that you secure off-site
44:57 parking for your construction staff
44:59 thank you
45:03 thank you
45:04 this is on right
45:06 yes
45:07 sorry i've been blasting all your
45:08 eardrums i didn't realize we could stand
45:10 back here and
45:11 i'll be good
45:15 again thank you for your comment
45:18 in relation to the the front is
45:21 improvements along 7th as i kind of
45:23 touched on earlier
45:24 the applicant team's responsibility is
45:27 the portion that's in front of their
45:28 site and we would
45:31 redevelop that in alignment with the
45:33 isoqua's plans for that street
45:36 the access point itself to the site for
45:39 the drive aisle the internal drive aisle
45:41 there's a couple constraints upon where
45:43 that can go one being that seventh is
45:46 the lowest classification of
45:48 right-of-way frontage that we have so
45:50 generally
45:51 that's where the access points to the
45:53 site are encouraged to be placed
45:55 and then also we want to keep that
45:56 removed from the intersection to the
45:59 greatest extent possible
46:01 just for safety from turning and kind of
46:04 conflicts around the intersection so
46:05 that
46:06 that was an intentional choice on our
46:08 end to locate it there based on some of
46:10 the you know the
46:13 practical safety concerns
46:15 um as well as separation requirements
46:18 and things of that nature that public
46:19 works has
46:21 in relation to the construction
46:23 and kind of the plan for managing all of
46:25 that
46:26 issaquah or any jurisdiction will have
46:29 in place um
46:31 requirements and that's part of the
46:33 permitting process in terms of
46:34 demonstrating how
46:36 the plan for going about construction
46:38 will be handled
46:41 and obviously impacts on surrounding
46:43 right-of-ways need to be coordinated as
46:45 part of that process in terms of
46:47 when things can be ripped up and when
46:49 things can be shut down to make those
46:51 improvements to the site and things of
46:52 that nature so all of that is is
46:54 governed in uh
46:56 in a process and reviewed by the city
46:58 and developed in in tandem with the city
47:01 hopefully take in to account you know
47:03 the surrounding community and the
47:04 impacts that it has on everyone
47:08 i believe you had a question in there
47:09 about uh whether there would be gas
47:12 coming on the site and then also the
47:14 electric
47:15 holley can confirm but i i don't believe
47:17 we're proposing any gas for this site at
47:20 this time
47:22 yeah
47:23 um and then in terms of the electric
47:25 utilities
47:26 um again that would be developed in
47:29 accordance with and with guidance from
47:31 public works in terms of what they're
47:32 looking to see in those frontage
47:33 improvements uh our understanding at
47:36 this time is that the power would be
47:38 underground along that frontage for the
47:40 entirety as part of the improvements
47:42 there
47:43 and then i believe you also had a
47:45 question
47:46 about the ev charging
47:49 that's
47:50 again also part of isco's code
47:53 and they have a requirement
47:55 and it's actually now been adopted as
47:56 part of the state code for
47:59 any type of residential development that
48:01 you have to provide a certain percentage
48:03 of electrical electric vehicle charging
48:06 stations as part of the development
48:09 i i believe does that cover
48:11 most everything that you had
48:24 lighting oh and that that was um just
48:27 sight lighting kind of the impacts upon
48:29 the site so um for external lighting on
48:32 the site
48:34 there will be a lighting plan developed
48:36 and that will be
48:37 with
48:39 you know industry best standards in
48:40 terms of
48:41 what is currently acceptable
48:44 lots of down lighting trying to minimize
48:46 impacts off the site and on the
48:48 environment
48:50 and then for the
48:51 in terms of lights internal to the
48:53 residences um you know these would these
48:55 units would all be provided with blinds
48:59 other
49:00 other devices for the you know the
49:02 resident's own use as well um to help
49:04 mitigate
49:06 lighting impacts outside of the unit
49:10 thanks next speaker on the list please
49:13 yesterday we have
49:15 james
49:18 how's everybody doing tonight thanks for
49:20 being here uh my name is james carr i'm
49:22 the neighbor to where you guys are going
49:23 to be the universal energy martial arts
49:24 school um first off you guys are going
49:27 to take my view
49:29 and that's it is what it is but uh it's
49:31 gonna be a nice view forever against
49:32 that corner lot there uh my big one is
49:34 so i mow the grass a lot uh right where
49:37 my sign is and there's about a four foot
49:38 drop so you guys when they start doing
49:41 the new the newport way and expanding
49:43 that out that's gonna have to flow you
49:46 guys gonna have significant drainage
49:47 because that whole area
49:49 the backside the whole thing on on that
49:52 property is underwater
49:54 at least a month out of the year so
49:56 there's got to be some serious drainage
49:58 put into that place because i don't want
50:00 it to come onto mine
50:01 and flood me out because as soon as that
50:03 lifts up you guys gonna have to raise up
50:04 i'm assuming is that correct
50:07 yeah so for drainage um holly has ran
50:10 point on all of this but
50:12 this this
50:14 soils on the site are not going to allow
50:15 for any sort of infiltration so we're
50:17 proposing a vault on site that would
50:19 handle all the on-site stormwater and
50:21 then i believe additional facilities
50:23 that would handle
50:24 the right-of-way improvements or things
50:26 that are off of our site
50:28 and so that would all be that's all to
50:30 the stormwater manual
50:32 um which is all you know very
50:33 specifically laid out in terms of the
50:35 requirements of that so that's how all
50:37 the on-site runoff and and that would
50:39 all be treated on-site internally before
50:41 it's disbursed sweet um when you guys
50:44 are building
50:45 there's tons of kids that are my place
50:46 plus also during the school year there's
50:48 tons of kids that are walking in and out
50:50 are you guys gonna fence that around
50:51 while you're doing building
50:54 yeah so it'd be a typical um
50:56 construction plan management plan um
50:59 with fencing and and kind of what i had
51:01 touched upon earlier that all is
51:02 developed
51:03 throughout the permitting process to
51:05 make sure that all of those scenarios
51:07 are you know forethought and addressed
51:09 ahead of time to try and minimize how
51:11 about afterwards will it be fenced
51:13 around or will be wide open so the
51:14 frontage all of the frontages would be
51:17 open um how about the connecting lots
51:19 like to the neighbors to to the to the
51:23 north yes the northwest yeah so
51:25 we would propose a form of privacy
51:27 fencing along the shared property lines
51:29 um the front the street front is
51:31 themselves um kind of in alignment with
51:33 that i was just maybe talking about that
51:34 yeah okay cool um
51:38 and so you're just gonna have one in in
51:40 egress ingress on the seventh correct so
51:42 not a newport okay and uh
51:53 she's going to take the rest um
51:56 effects of visibility hi my name is amy
51:58 carr and also
52:00 i have a fitness studio right next door
52:02 to the proposed
52:04 site
52:06 towns on 7th
52:07 and specifically the effects of
52:10 visibility for our business i know that
52:13 they're going to be
52:14 taking a portion of our business once
52:17 they do roundabouts and expand that road
52:21 but as far as the design
52:23 um our business is nestled kind of in
52:26 between the storage unit place as well
52:29 seven so we've got two very large
52:32 uh buildings on the side of us and then
52:34 we're kind of just stuck in between so
52:36 as far as visibility for us we're not
52:39 sure how that's going to look for people
52:42 to be able to see and know that that's
52:43 where our studio is
52:45 as far as entrance
52:47 as far as the
52:49 reality of the traffic on newport way i
52:52 know a lot of people discuss seventh and
52:55 newport way is
52:57 very has very high traffic and
53:00 specifically during certain times of the
53:02 day
53:03 and i know that john had mentioned
53:06 the um
53:07 the limit and the capacity of only being
53:10 able to put so many units on that and i
53:11 know that you guys have also talked
53:13 about that
53:14 but adding even more traffic to
53:17 the area when it's already congested is
53:20 going to cause
53:22 you know serious issues for neighbors
53:24 and for safety as far as for the
53:26 community
53:28 and so will there be traffic
53:32 control provided during the project
53:36 yeah so
53:38 something that i that i should have
53:39 mentioned earlier
53:41 on that first slide with our team we do
53:43 have the traffic engineer that's on
53:45 board and he kind of does the scoping
53:47 analysis of the site and what the
53:48 impacts of that are going to be
53:50 and then they would offer
53:52 recommendations for how to try and
53:54 mitigate those effects in the
53:55 surrounding areas and that you know
53:57 expands out from the site to a certain
53:59 extent not just directly adjacent to the
54:01 site in terms of how that's going to be
54:03 managed um and and that and then the
54:06 street improvements themselves in
54:08 newport being a very busy street um
54:10 issaquah is already working on
54:12 a point of future plan to help manage
54:15 that with the roundabout being part of
54:17 that um to try and address the vehicle
54:20 volume along newport way
54:22 all right thank you um
54:25 and as far as hauling in and out soil
54:28 that's all going to come from 7th and
54:30 that that's not going to be coming from
54:31 newport as you had said so when they're
54:34 developing the site
54:35 um the main entrance is going to be on
54:37 the other side on the 7th avenue that's
54:39 where you're going to be coming in and
54:40 out of
54:42 as far as the development yeah the the
54:44 final
54:45 entry like the actual vehicular entrance
54:48 to the site will be off of 7th we have
54:50 at this stage not gotten to the point of
54:52 developing like a construction plan
54:54 um and that would be in
54:57 consultation with city staff as well in
54:59 terms of what works best for them with
55:02 we do have three frontages on the site
55:04 so we do have a lot of options which is
55:06 somewhat unique to the site as opposed
55:09 a site that's bounded by
55:11 neighboring parcels on all sites and you
55:13 just have your one right away from it so
55:14 we do have some flexibility there but we
55:16 at this time we don't we haven't
55:17 developed a plan for how the
55:19 construction bill that would be
55:21 would be addressed and how that would be
55:22 phased
55:23 and then as far as the time frame of the
55:26 build out
55:27 is there
55:30 as we kind of went over at the end there
55:33 the
55:34 and as holly keaton had mentioned the
55:36 process would be to make this
55:37 application for the site development
55:39 permit um and that cipa will be included
55:42 in that there's a variety of reviews and
55:45 back and forth with the city in terms of
55:47 responding to their recommendations and
55:49 comments
55:50 um and
55:51 the timeline on that could be
55:54 two to three months
55:56 it's hard to say there the review times
55:58 are are hit and miss um just broadly
56:01 across the region right now and there's
56:04 a lot of work going on so
56:06 once we kind of get through that process
56:10 we would look to get recommended for
56:12 approval
56:14 and come back before the development
56:16 commission and then with their approval
56:18 the
56:19 permit for doing the site work and for
56:22 the buildings themselves could be
56:23 applied for
56:24 um and
56:26 from there it'd be another round of
56:27 review so
56:29 all told um
56:31 in terms of when the shovel actually
56:32 hits the dirt that's still months and
56:35 months
56:36 12 to 18 months out
56:39 okay thank you so much
56:57 um i don't know
57:01 right as part of and that's part of that
57:03 whole roundabout plan is is that
57:06 yeah
57:09 it's that's one of
57:11 you know as we kind of tried to state an
57:13 application that whole roundabout
57:14 scenario is a little bit influx and
57:16 amorphous right now
57:18 because they're still working through
57:20 the design of it so
57:22 what that finally looks like and kind of
57:24 where it falls in relation to your
57:25 property
57:26 um would be hard to say but
57:29 i mean for your sign you'd still have
57:31 the frontage there so i would hope that
57:33 they you know you'd find it a good place
57:35 to put
57:36 and with the
57:38 with the right-of-way with between our
57:40 project and yours there should still be
57:41 decent visibility
57:43 as you come around the corner there
57:46 thank you and i just remind our speakers
57:48 that your comments must be made at the
57:49 lectern or the microphone's not going to
57:51 pick up on the recording or otherwise so
57:53 thank you
57:54 and if we could be mindful of the five
57:56 minute limit of course uh who is next to
57:59 speak
58:00 yes sure we have charles signed up
58:10 okay then we have linda signed up
58:13 okay
58:15 then we have amy quinn
58:20 hi i'm amy quinn live at 708 7th avenue
58:23 across the street from the project
58:25 just a couple of questions
58:27 in relationship to the elementary school
58:29 right across the street on holly
58:32 there are a number of families that walk
58:34 their kids back and forth to school
58:38 and with integrating the traffic circle
58:41 at holly and
58:43 newport
58:46 knowing full well that
58:48 coming out of a traffic circle it's a
58:50 horrible place to walk
58:52 how
58:54 that
58:55 that needs to be addressed and and
58:58 looked at for families and
59:01 you know eight nine ten-year-olds
59:02 walking back and forth to school by
59:04 themselves
59:06 and then along with families
59:08 the
59:09 public space in
59:12 within within your complex
59:16 will that have
59:19 facilities for young families the the
59:21 school is not really available the
59:24 playground area is not available during
59:26 school days
59:27 and then after school programming it
59:29 continues to be locked
59:31 it's not it's not really available to
59:33 the public on a very regular basis so
59:36 being that it's a townhome complex with
59:39 a couple of bedrooms and two car garages
59:41 and
59:42 things like that there's going to be
59:43 families that move into there and
59:46 that
59:47 that
59:48 recreation needs to be provided for
59:50 those young a tot lot whatever
59:52 you would you would call that would be
59:55 probably an important amenity and then
59:58 would that amenity be available to
1:00:01 the neighborhood
1:00:03 that aspect so
1:00:06 i would concur with
1:00:08 john that developing part of the block
1:00:11 with sidewalk and parking
1:00:13 is not a great alternative and that that
1:00:15 it really does need to be finished all
1:00:17 the way up to
1:00:18 juniper so the city should probably be
1:00:20 looking into that along with that
1:00:22 project because to just end it as john
1:00:25 it it's a good piece stretch for people
1:00:28 to go from lovely sidewalk with
1:00:31 bike routes to
1:00:33 what it is now
1:00:36 so those are my comments
1:00:40 again thank you for your comments um
1:00:42 in relation to the crossing at the
1:00:44 roundabout um
1:00:46 most of that would be driven by the
1:00:48 city's design plans for that roundabout
1:00:50 that would all be
1:00:52 factored into the design that they come
1:00:53 up with that so providing a form of safe
1:00:56 crossing
1:00:58 and that would obviously tie in with the
1:01:00 improvements that we do along the front
1:01:01 of our site and corresponding to that
1:01:04 but where that crossing may fall
1:01:07 is going to come from the plans for that
1:01:09 roundabout
1:01:15 the on-site
1:01:16 amenity space that we provided
1:01:20 because of the size of the development
1:01:22 and the number of units that we have
1:01:24 it actually triggers a mechanism in the
1:01:26 code to provide an additional
1:01:28 400 feet of amenity area which is
1:01:31 largely what we're trying to show in
1:01:32 that center portion
1:01:35 what we showed there was kind of a
1:01:37 schematic look at something that could
1:01:39 be proposed there what the the final
1:01:42 arrangement of that may be will be
1:01:43 determined as we go through the review
1:01:45 process whether that's a play structure
1:01:48 more open
1:01:49 field more kind of ambiguous space for a
1:01:52 variety of activities um or something
1:01:54 more concrete like a play structure that
1:01:56 would that would be determined as we go
1:01:58 through the review process
1:02:02 without everything sorry i'm trying to
1:02:03 remember
1:02:07 the last one was the um just the
1:02:09 sidewalk and that was
1:02:10 mostly directed towards the commission
1:02:13 yeah so again that kind of goes back to
1:02:15 the the development standards for that
1:02:17 street
1:02:21 next person signed up to speak
1:02:26 we have no more in person signed up
1:02:29 okay is there anyone else who would like
1:02:31 to speak in the room who did not sign up
1:02:33 before
1:02:35 okay please come to lectern and
1:02:37 speak your name and proceed
1:02:43 i'm jerry bernstein i also live in
1:02:46 bridgewater place
1:02:48 and i just have
1:02:50 a few
1:02:52 simple questions
1:02:54 i was curious as to what the setback
1:02:57 would be
1:02:58 for the edge of the building
1:03:01 to the sidewalk on 7th avenue
1:03:05 and i'm curious as to
1:03:08 in some places in your presentation you
1:03:10 talked about three stories
1:03:15 the townhomes being three stories but
1:03:19 the um
1:03:21 concept concept was showing like four
1:03:23 stories
1:03:25 and then i'm also curious as to
1:03:28 along 7th avenue
1:03:30 how compatible
1:03:32 compatible it would be
1:03:36 the bridgewater place across the street
1:03:38 so those are my questions okay
1:03:41 appreciate the questions
1:03:42 um so in regards to the setbacks um in
1:03:46 alignment with the standards for this
1:03:49 central isquad district um they
1:03:52 encourage the creation of a street wall
1:03:54 along those frontages so they actually
1:03:56 want they're encouraging you to pull the
1:03:58 buildings forward to maintain a sense of
1:04:00 of street edge along the edge of the
1:04:03 right-of-way there so the setback could
1:04:05 be anywhere from zero to ten feet
1:04:07 in those instances we what we are
1:04:09 proposing on our site plan along our
1:04:11 three frontages ranges anywhere from
1:04:14 maybe two to four feet set back from
1:04:17 um the backup sidewalk
1:04:20 um or sorry from the edge of the
1:04:23 property line and then where the
1:04:24 sidewalk falls in relation to that would
1:04:26 kind of up to what the final plans for
1:04:28 the french improvements are
1:04:30 so we'll see them in the site plan more
1:04:33 or less
1:04:34 that we could
1:04:35 then because
1:04:36 because i was thinking it would just be
1:04:38 more compatible to have a
1:04:42 wider setback with
1:04:44 the property across the street you know
1:04:47 closer to the 10 feet
1:04:52 that's a comment okay um
1:04:55 so yeah i mean basically what we're
1:04:57 trying to do there is is fulfill
1:05:00 the requirements that the city has in
1:05:02 their design standards for developing
1:05:04 that street edge obviously those
1:05:05 buildings are broken up
1:05:07 in the way
1:05:08 that they're positioned along those
1:05:09 frontages so we don't you know there's
1:05:11 the gap there's gaps between the
1:05:13 buildings it's not just a continuous
1:05:14 building base and that allows for the
1:05:16 ability to provide that through block
1:05:18 passage
1:05:19 um to provide some of the little like
1:05:21 pocket park landscape areas between the
1:05:23 buildings as well
1:05:25 but there are there are certain zoning
1:05:27 requirements that we have to be in
1:05:29 compliance with in relation to the
1:05:31 setbacks along the frontages
1:05:32 specifically
1:05:34 [Music]
1:05:35 and then in relation to the
1:05:37 the building height or the number of
1:05:39 stories
1:05:40 um so the
1:05:42 the concept for the townhomes is that
1:05:44 they would be three-story units
1:05:46 but with the steeply pissed roof we
1:05:49 would want to take
1:05:50 that area that's inside the actual roof
1:05:52 like underneath the roof surface that
1:05:54 what would be an attic and make that a
1:05:56 habitable space which is an amenity to
1:05:58 the residents
1:06:00 giving them additional space and then
1:06:02 also allowing us to do those dormers
1:06:04 along the front facade and so that's
1:06:06 where you get some of the variation
1:06:08 where it's four stories and then down to
1:06:10 three stories
1:06:11 and again
1:06:12 with the
1:06:14 working within the architectural and
1:06:16 urban design manual that's trying to
1:06:18 provide some of the architectural
1:06:20 articulation that they're looking for
1:06:22 along
1:06:23 those street faces with the varying
1:06:25 heights and the in the dormer and gable
1:06:27 reforms
1:06:28 okay so
1:06:30 okay so when would we be able to see
1:06:35 um the architect
1:06:36 you have designed long seventh house
1:06:39 sure so um as part of this scp submittal
1:06:43 for this the site development permit
1:06:45 a big chunk of that is going to be from
1:06:47 holly's team on the the civil side in
1:06:50 the landscape side and that's all kind
1:06:51 of the site related stuff
1:06:53 that is you know the horizontal layout
1:06:55 of the site but as part of that as well
1:06:57 there's the design review aspect and so
1:06:59 we will be submitting a full set of
1:07:01 rendered elevations
1:07:03 as well as
1:07:04 example building plans
1:07:07 and those would all be available as part
1:07:08 of that submittal
1:07:12 all right no i don't believe i have any
1:07:15 more questions thank you thank you
1:07:18 thank you is there anyone else in the
1:07:20 room who would like to speak on the
1:07:21 topic
1:07:23 hearing none mr patrick do we have
1:07:25 anyone online who's signed up to speak
1:07:29 giving them one minute
1:07:34 yes i see one raised hand
1:07:38 connie i'm going to unmute you and make
1:07:41 you a panelist now
1:07:47 all right okay so
1:07:50 i am joining in from san francisco here
1:07:54 because i just can't stay away from you
1:07:56 all i'm connie marshall i live up on
1:07:58 squawk
1:08:00 so i'm going to shotgun my comments
1:08:04 and i'm going to start with being in the
1:08:07 mur the mur district which
1:08:10 i looked at the zoning map
1:08:12 not really central issaquah
1:08:15 i agree with the 4.52 units
1:08:18 so i'm not really understanding where
1:08:19 you're coming up with the concept that
1:08:22 you are fulfilling the vision
1:08:26 when you aren't really in the central
1:08:27 isla plan from what i can see so i'm not
1:08:31 sure that the design manual actually
1:08:34 works so
1:08:36 at least i don't think you have to do
1:08:38 the things in the design manual so i
1:08:41 suspect the city is saying something to
1:08:44 you that i'm not sure
1:08:47 the rest of the community agrees with
1:08:51 there you there you have that now
1:08:54 i'm going to move back to
1:08:57 transportation because that's a hot
1:08:59 topic
1:09:00 so in your cipa
1:09:03 study of transportation i think you're
1:09:06 also going to be having to look the
1:09:08 impacts to juniper because you are in a
1:09:12 in sort of a going around the block
1:09:15 scenario where people can enter in a
1:09:17 variety of places and exit in a variety
1:09:20 of places so i think your impacts to
1:09:22 juniper are also going to be
1:09:24 considerable
1:09:28 fronting on newport
1:09:32 in the future of a roundabout i'm not
1:09:35 sure about what the city development
1:09:37 standards will be
1:09:39 with fronting development on the back
1:09:43 of a roundabout
1:09:45 also on holly i see that you would end
1:09:47 up with extra right-of-way now granted
1:09:51 the the sketch that you put in i was
1:09:53 strongly told by the city that that is
1:09:56 not the current sketch
1:09:58 and so we don't really know what's going
1:10:00 to happen but we do know that the land
1:10:03 all around you is going to change
1:10:06 so i would like to understand how you
1:10:09 are going to change your development to
1:10:11 fit in with a future land change that
1:10:14 seems very difficult
1:10:18 but i would like a description of how
1:10:20 you imagine that that is beyond just
1:10:23 well we'll do what they say and we'll
1:10:25 figure it out
1:10:26 so what will you do with extra land what
1:10:29 will you do if you end up with your back
1:10:31 to a roundabout
1:10:33 and how will you make this place
1:10:35 habitable
1:10:38 is the through block passage
1:10:41 public you didn't answer the question
1:10:43 that was addressed by someone else
1:10:46 so um
1:10:48 are the people going to be able to use
1:10:50 this space
1:10:53 and then are there going to be interim
1:10:56 traffic improvements before that you
1:10:59 have to hook into a roundabout and what
1:11:02 are the temporary traffic improvements
1:11:05 that you are going to have for ingress
1:11:07 and egress as you develop
1:11:10 so then um i read your geotech report
1:11:14 which
1:11:15 included seismic hazard area which is a
1:11:18 critical area erosion hazard which is a
1:11:21 critical area and an incredibly shallow
1:11:25 groundwater level
1:11:27 where james also said that there is
1:11:30 ponding so i suspect you actually do
1:11:32 have a wetland and wetland
1:11:35 buffer
1:11:36 so i do disagree with the concept that
1:11:39 you don't have critical areas on your
1:11:44 now your wet dirt and your incredibly
1:11:47 fine soils will not support structure so
1:11:50 this means you're going to have a large
1:11:53 amount of dirt moving which is going to
1:11:55 have significant transportation
1:11:58 impacts on the neighborhood
1:12:01 and also on how you're going to have be
1:12:04 having to handle water
1:12:06 on your site so i would be interested to
1:12:10 understand
1:12:11 baker tanks where are they going how's
1:12:14 it going to handle with the community
1:12:16 and then one other suggestion with
1:12:19 developments that have been tight like
1:12:21 this is they have created email lists
1:12:23 for all of the adjacent neighbors so
1:12:25 that they could keep them in the plan as
1:12:27 the dell development continues so they
1:12:30 have some idea what's going to happen
1:12:32 week to week and they've popped out
1:12:34 these emails every week to make people
1:12:37 happy around them and they've had
1:12:39 signage with numbers on them that people
1:12:42 can call night or day if they're having
1:12:44 issues one other thing
1:12:47 is it seems like you're going to have
1:12:49 difficult soil work in the wet season
1:12:51 anyway because of your
1:12:53 your your soils and just love water and
1:12:55 become more unstable and you have a
1:12:57 school across the way so if i were the
1:13:00 city i would require that you do your
1:13:02 earth moving and most of your exterior
1:13:05 grading in the summer season to keep it
1:13:08 out of the school and and the stability
1:13:12 issues with wet
1:13:14 soils
1:13:16 uh i think
1:13:18 in i hope that was within five minutes
1:13:21 but i have fulfilled my list
1:13:23 thank you
1:13:27 thank you again for taking the the time
1:13:29 to join us
1:13:30 virtually
1:13:32 i'll try and kind of run through
1:13:35 feel free to chime in because
1:13:38 there's quite a few items in there and i
1:13:40 want to make sure that i take the time
1:13:41 to adjust them
1:13:43 starting with the
1:13:45 uh the roundabout and the frontage
1:13:47 improvements um and the way that the
1:13:48 site is responding to that so as part of
1:13:50 the proposal
1:13:52 um from the pre-op process
1:13:55 forward or from in development of the uh
1:13:57 the plans for the pre-op we were in
1:13:59 contact with the city and that's where
1:14:02 were made
1:14:04 knowledgeable of the proposed roundabout
1:14:06 project and have been working in tandem
1:14:08 with city staff
1:14:10 to the best of our ability with the
1:14:12 plans that they've provided us to
1:14:14 respond to that so
1:14:16 the site plan on the south western
1:14:19 corner of our
1:14:20 six parcels is uh dedicating an area of
1:14:24 land kind of a trapezoid triangular
1:14:27 trapezoidal area that would go towards
1:14:29 creating that roundabout
1:14:31 and that's why on the site plan you'll
1:14:34 the arrangement of buildings kind of
1:14:36 responding to that change in the
1:14:38 property lines there to accommodate that
1:14:40 that future installation
1:14:43 as for the area that is to the
1:14:46 south of the site that
1:14:49 in the
1:14:50 proposal roundabout plans um kind of the
1:14:54 roundabout swoops out there and so i
1:14:56 think that's what you're referencing
1:14:58 in relation to the additional site area
1:15:01 that area
1:15:03 in and of itself would not be going to
1:15:05 our development it would not be part of
1:15:08 our proposal at least at this stage so
1:15:10 that would be
1:15:12 you know developed in accordance with
1:15:14 the plans that the city has for that
1:15:17 that area that is newly being created
1:15:21 to your question about what the interim
1:15:25 improvements would be
1:15:28 that is a question that our applicant
1:15:30 team is still trying to understand as
1:15:31 well given that
1:15:33 the proposal for the roundabout and
1:15:35 those frontages is is still under design
1:15:38 and somewhat in flux
1:15:40 and that's something that we look to
1:15:41 address with city staff moving forward
1:15:45 in terms of what they would like us to
1:15:47 install in the interim assuming that our
1:15:49 project
1:15:50 runs in front of what those final
1:15:52 improvements would be
1:15:53 uh so the i guess stay tuned for what
1:15:57 the final proposal for those interim
1:15:59 improvements would be
1:16:01 i'm going to comment just for a second
1:16:03 here you realize we've been working on
1:16:05 that design for 30 years
1:16:10 so don't hold your breath
1:16:13 on on on that one in the interim
1:16:16 you're going to design to the straight
1:16:21 that is what we have shown on the
1:16:23 current proposal and that is
1:16:25 basically the point that we had arrived
1:16:27 at in needing to prep the
1:16:30 materials for this meeting again what
1:16:32 the final resolution
1:16:34 of what interim improvements may be put
1:16:37 is something that we hope to work
1:16:39 through in
1:16:40 the permitting process here
1:16:43 so then the
1:16:45 putting the fronts of the buildings up
1:16:48 onto newport way because those are the
1:16:51 fronts of the buildings correct correct
1:16:53 what happened to that if it does turn
1:16:55 into a roundabout
1:16:58 so those buildings would still be
1:17:00 fronting that public right-of-way there
1:17:02 and as part of the roundabout
1:17:05 improvements the concept would be that
1:17:07 there would be you know public sidewalk
1:17:09 that is included with those improvements
1:17:11 and so those
1:17:12 buildings along that frontage would be
1:17:14 creating
1:17:15 um you know a street presence and and
1:17:17 have their front entries facing the
1:17:19 public realm in that in those areas
1:17:22 okay thanks we're going to need to move
1:17:24 on now to our next commenter do we have
1:17:25 someone else online signed up to
1:17:28 speak no chair i don't see anybody else
1:17:31 online signed up this week
1:17:33 all right thank you and thank you all
1:17:35 for your comments tonight
1:17:37 and for your input and starting this
1:17:38 dialogue i think you've driven out a lot
1:17:40 of points that weren't obvious from the
1:17:42 beginning
1:17:43 so i now going to turn it over to the
1:17:46 development commission
1:17:47 and open the florida commissioners does
1:17:50 anyone have a question or comment for
1:17:52 the applicant
1:17:57 uh mr chair just uh a
1:18:00 comment on the building design i know
1:18:02 you've heard a lot about the site and
1:18:04 transportation impacts and
1:18:06 uh we'll come back to those
1:18:08 so though can you talk a little bit more
1:18:11 about how these buildings will interface
1:18:14 it in the kind of the pedestrian space
1:18:17 and the entries
1:18:19 are there going to be covers over the
1:18:21 entries will there be extending out
1:18:23 partially over the sidewalk provide some
1:18:25 pedestrian protection a little bit more
1:18:27 about what you're thinking is about how
1:18:29 these will interface
1:18:30 uh in the pedestrian environment sure
1:18:33 um so in relation to the pedestrian
1:18:35 entries for the units they all
1:18:38 either front along their existing
1:18:39 right-of-way frontages or along that
1:18:41 interior through block passage that's
1:18:43 through the site so the public realm um
1:18:45 in both senses
1:18:47 um and
1:18:49 the the plan for what that entry will
1:18:51 look like we've provided um there aren't
1:18:54 plans in this presentation but there
1:18:56 would be essentially an entry porch or
1:18:58 stoop that would be covered
1:19:00 and that's kind of integral to the
1:19:01 building architecture
1:19:03 which you could see a little bit in
1:19:04 elevation and then just landscaping and
1:19:08 and other
1:19:09 kind of yard and facade treatments to
1:19:12 try and soften
1:19:13 that street edge and make it at a human
1:19:15 scale and something that's enjoyable for
1:19:17 passerby walking by and also for you
1:19:20 know you coming home to your front entry
1:19:21 of your unit right and then as far as um
1:19:26 private sites you've got to balance that
1:19:28 with privacy and and security for the
1:19:31 residents as well so
1:19:33 um it'll be interesting to see a little
1:19:35 bit more about you know how that
1:19:37 interface looks when you bring back to
1:19:39 the come back for the public hearing
1:19:40 sure um a question about the through
1:19:43 block connection
1:19:47 it is a public it is a public space and
1:19:50 it's open to the public that's the the
1:19:52 point to give people with the larger
1:19:53 blocks an opportunity to kind of shorten
1:19:56 their
1:19:56 their uh trip with the through block
1:19:58 connection can you talk a little bit
1:20:00 about how that will interface um at
1:20:02 newport and at seventh um
1:20:05 uh how it would be inviting for people
1:20:07 to actually come
1:20:09 be welcomed into that space instead of
1:20:10 feeling like it's private because the
1:20:12 idea is it would be
1:20:14 enough a public amenity sure um so
1:20:20 first off i'll lead off by saying that
1:20:21 all of the details in terms of how that
1:20:23 will be worked out haven't been worked
1:20:25 out at this point in the design process
1:20:28 but from a conceptual standpoint along
1:20:31 seventh and along newport the idea would
1:20:34 to treat that as somewhat of a courtyard
1:20:36 space so it's on seventh avenue it would
1:20:38 be framed by buildings on both sides of
1:20:40 um and so
1:20:43 if you can imagine having
1:20:45 units with their front entries that are
1:20:46 fronting onto that space it has a 10
1:20:48 foot sidewalk going through the middle
1:20:50 of it and trying to create an inviting
1:20:52 space that feels like kind of a portal
1:20:55 to the site or an entry point to the
1:20:57 site from the pedestrian realm
1:20:59 and then on the newport side
1:21:05 geometry gets a little
1:21:07 tight there with the roundabout
1:21:08 improvement so there's actually an
1:21:10 opportunity to do something
1:21:13 at that frontage that maybe is more
1:21:16 public in nature and a little bit more
1:21:18 inviting because we have a decent amount
1:21:21 of room and kind of this triangular
1:21:22 shaped parcel
1:21:24 to do something with with vegetation and
1:21:28 trellising or arbors or something that
1:21:30 creates again another kind of an
1:21:32 entryway to the site there
1:21:34 thank you
1:21:38 mr morgan
1:21:41 thank you chair the um do you want
1:21:43 questions and comments same time yes
1:21:46 this is our opportunity do it all right
1:21:48 um okay
1:21:50 um thank you very much for coming in the
1:21:51 presentation and thank you to all the
1:21:53 public obviously for being here tonight
1:21:55 coming out to
1:21:57 express your opinions
1:21:58 especially ex-commissioner trey grouch
1:22:00 nice to see you again so
1:22:03 the uh
1:22:05 hollywood it be possible to pull up this
1:22:06 site design
1:22:09 a psych plan
1:22:16 and maybe while she's doing that i can
1:22:18 ask you one question about the
1:22:21 number i should point out at the
1:22:22 beginning i do appreciate how you the
1:22:25 efforts you've made to meet the arts and
1:22:26 crafts style
1:22:28 because
1:22:29 these are all kind of new styles from
1:22:31 the central area plan and so going
1:22:33 through it i appreciate a lot of things
1:22:34 you've done with that one of the
1:22:36 questions i had to mentions in i think
1:22:38 your narrative
1:22:39 that there there's a minimum of 8 12
1:22:42 pitch the primary is 10 12
1:22:44 and it looks like most of the verse i
1:22:46 could see were 10 12 and i think the
1:22:48 arts and crafts requires all the pitches
1:22:50 to be the same so i wondered where the
1:22:52 812 was
1:22:54 is that just canopies or something like
1:22:56 that that you wouldn't notice or
1:22:59 a couple places where that might show up
1:23:02 over those low roofs
1:23:04 but that could be something that is
1:23:06 worked with and adjusted to get to 1012
1:23:08 and then
1:23:09 it wasn't in the images that were
1:23:11 presented but you would see it in the
1:23:14 application packet for the design review
1:23:17 on the rear side of the units we do have
1:23:20 a couple modulated bays in some of the
1:23:23 buildings in which we've gone kind of
1:23:25 with a shed that springs from the same
1:23:28 point coming down but that would be at a
1:23:30 lower
1:23:31 roof slope obviously to you know define
1:23:34 that element coming down
1:23:35 um that was something that we were
1:23:37 proposing in the design it was in
1:23:39 alignment with a couple of the images
1:23:41 that were
1:23:42 included in the imagery for arts and
1:23:45 crafts within the manual
1:23:47 whether that strictly complies with the
1:23:49 requirements you know we're certainly
1:23:51 open to feedback on but that was um
1:23:55 those were the areas where we wouldn't
1:23:56 be having the 10-12 pitch okay but the
1:23:59 vast majority of the
1:24:01 appearance wise yeah so that that
1:24:03 elevation that was up on screen is is
1:24:05 broadly representative of the look that
1:24:08 we're going for with
1:24:09 um you know an overall gable front to
1:24:12 back and then using those dormer
1:24:14 features
1:24:15 to provide interest and break up the
1:24:16 facade okay thank you and it looked to
1:24:20 me that um
1:24:23 in what is shown there
1:24:26 i'm trying to remember if this is the
1:24:28 street facing or interior facing
1:24:31 this would be a street page facing yeah
1:24:34 and i thought on some of the one of the
1:24:36 other plans that showed an arched entry
1:24:38 over a door i think one of the facets
1:24:41 that was listed for arts and crafts were
1:24:44 arched entries it looked like these
1:24:46 doors might be a rectangular door
1:24:50 would that be something that would
1:24:52 and given the the design has a lot of
1:24:55 you know rectangular geometric straight
1:24:58 lines
1:24:58 would it be possible to look at more
1:25:00 arched entry ways for these doors as
1:25:03 partly way to
1:25:04 to differentiate them and meet that not
1:25:06 a not a specific requirement but one of
1:25:09 the things they look for
1:25:10 yeah um so the the entries as you said
1:25:13 that we are proposing is kind of a
1:25:15 rectilinear opening that we would be
1:25:17 highlighting with some ornate brick work
1:25:20 around it either turning the course of
1:25:22 the brick or providing a headstone some
1:25:24 combinations of that
1:25:26 but as you noted in the design
1:25:28 requirements it does speak somewhat to
1:25:31 using the arched form so
1:25:34 that could certainly be something that's
1:25:35 investigated as as part of the process
1:25:37 as well great thank you um
1:25:41 the it also in and this might be for
1:25:44 staff it mentioned in the staff report
1:25:46 roof heights of 40
1:25:48 or 35 to 45 or 40 to 45
1:25:52 that looked like the um in the staff
1:25:53 report the limit was 40. there was a
1:25:56 mention of 45 foot heights but i wasn't
1:25:59 sure where that would have been if
1:26:00 that's a
1:26:02 so this is actually a good question that
1:26:04 we had discussed as the applicant team
1:26:09 by the reading of the code we understand
1:26:11 the building height
1:26:13 by its code definition to be measured to
1:26:15 the midpoint of the roof but when we
1:26:17 were asked to provide the numbers for
1:26:20 that staff report they were asking for
1:26:22 the peak
1:26:23 so that was actually a concern that
1:26:26 that were a potential question that we
1:26:28 were you know looking to come up
1:26:30 at this meeting in that the numbers if
1:26:33 we're measuring to the peak that we
1:26:34 provided look like they're out of
1:26:35 compliance but
1:26:37 if we're defining building height by the
1:26:39 definition that's in the code that
1:26:41 number would be lower because it's at
1:26:42 the midpoint of that gable does that
1:26:44 make sense okay yeah it definitely does
1:26:46 sounds like that something would work
1:26:48 out and probably before you have the sdp
1:26:51 yeah i mean yeah what we what we would
1:26:54 show in the submittal for stp would be
1:26:56 compliance with the building height
1:26:58 regulation and demonstrating that height
1:27:01 dimension based on the midpoint of the
1:27:03 roof excellent thank you
1:27:08 and one thing that it looked like the
1:27:09 the images we were shown were for
1:27:11 building five and interior building
1:27:15 i guess my largest concern
1:27:17 appearance-wise might be
1:27:19 the east side of building one facing
1:27:22 seventh avenue which is a 105 foot long
1:27:26 building
1:27:27 and i think there are two unit entrances
1:27:29 there
1:27:30 but then a fairly long blank
1:27:34 wall and we don't know what that
1:27:35 building looks like there
1:27:37 and then i think the
1:27:40 building four
1:27:42 facing seventh is also the side of a
1:27:44 building so i guess design wise one of
1:27:48 my concerns will be
1:27:50 what does it look like along 7th avenue
1:27:52 especially for the neighbors across the
1:27:54 street
1:27:55 but for anybody going down there
1:27:57 especially a long hundred foot long
1:28:01 building
1:28:02 facade how's that going to fit in
1:28:06 and what you could do there so
1:28:08 don't have to answer with what you do
1:28:10 tonight but i think that would be a
1:28:11 concern yeah um apologies for not having
1:28:15 images that show that um but much in the
1:28:18 same manner of this um elevation here
1:28:21 the that facade along seventh would be
1:28:23 um it does have the front unit entries
1:28:26 um and then you mentioned building uh
1:28:29 five which has the building four which
1:28:31 has the side elevation what we've done
1:28:33 there
1:28:34 um which again i can't show you a visual
1:28:36 of but is take the unit entry and put it
1:28:39 on the corner of the building to try and
1:28:41 you know make that a visual centerpiece
1:28:43 to that elevation since it is a side
1:28:46 elevation
1:28:47 and then also things like that you can
1:28:49 see on here we have the balconies up the
1:28:52 upper levels
1:28:54 same type of materiality with the brick
1:28:57 that going more than just one story
1:28:59 above grade um and then again the
1:29:02 varying roofline so that would be that
1:29:04 would all be in the packet that we
1:29:06 submit and i apologize for not having an
1:29:08 image of it but that that sense would be
1:29:10 along those street frontages right so
1:29:12 that same brick
1:29:13 base you think yep great
1:29:16 excellent thank you
1:29:19 and then the
1:29:22 roundabout design is an interesting
1:29:24 question having just driven through the
1:29:26 redone roundabout on eastlake spanish
1:29:28 parkway
1:29:29 um and wondering hopefully the city
1:29:31 comes up with a long-term roundabout
1:29:33 design that they don't have to rebuild
1:29:34 for you
1:29:38 um and then i think the
1:29:40 it to me it is strange for the city to
1:29:43 require to build a sidewalk that
1:29:44 essentially
1:29:46 ends at somebody's driveway right in the
1:29:48 middle of somebody's driveway
1:29:50 but i can understand long-term and i
1:29:52 guess it would be nice to know either
1:29:53 that the city has plans to
1:29:56 fully improve that sidewalk all the way
1:30:01 make it a more narrow street with
1:30:03 parking just on one side
1:30:05 instead of just having deer sitting
1:30:06 there for perhaps a long time without it
1:30:08 so that's i guess a comment for the city
1:30:11 be nice to know
1:30:12 when that's going to be done how it's
1:30:14 going to be done and all that so again
1:30:15 thank you very much appreciate it thank
1:30:22 hello um i want to say we had great
1:30:25 public comments tonight you all covered
1:30:28 many of my comments and questions
1:30:30 i do have a few follow-up items
1:30:34 um will there be a crosswalk
1:30:37 across
1:30:38 seventh or holly
1:30:40 away from the roundabout we kind of
1:30:41 talked about pedestrians at the
1:30:42 roundabout but at the other corner
1:30:45 yeah so that's a good question um
1:30:47 i think a lot of that will be generated
1:30:50 by the traffic scoping that we do for
1:30:51 the project and recommend
1:30:53 recommendations that they have in
1:30:54 relation to that for how that
1:30:56 intersection is handled at the corner of
1:30:58 7th and holly
1:31:00 as of right now that hasn't been
1:31:01 addressed in the proposal
1:31:03 um and then
1:31:05 again i hate to keep going back to this
1:31:07 round this roundabout
1:31:09 um but
1:31:11 you know that actually encroaches pretty
1:31:14 in the pro state of what we know of it
1:31:16 now encroaches pretty far towards that
1:31:19 intersection of 7th and holly so
1:31:22 depending on what the plan is for where
1:31:24 a crosswalk whether that's more towards
1:31:26 the circle or more towards where it
1:31:27 starts to neck down again
1:31:30 that could start to play into
1:31:32 how that intersection is handled i think
1:31:36 um i noticed
1:31:37 there was a wall detail included in the
1:31:39 packet and maybe i missed the location
1:31:42 but where are you anticipating walls
1:31:44 so that mine of holly doesn't have
1:31:47 slides up anywhere and i think that was
1:31:49 probably on the landscape
1:31:51 slide there with the community space
1:31:54 and i think that would just be kind of
1:31:56 like a landscape feature or something to
1:31:59 delineate space maybe provide a low seat
1:32:02 um for pedestrians to stop and sit on as
1:32:05 they're moving through the site or
1:32:06 through the space well uh it was more of
1:32:08 a fill wall with a drainage detail
1:32:10 behind it but um but you're not
1:32:13 anticipating any walls like retaining
1:32:14 walls like in terms of site retaining
1:32:16 walls yeah no not at this time okay
1:32:24 okay i think that's all my comments
1:32:27 any other questions from commissioners
1:32:30 thanks i have
1:32:32 just a few in a comment
1:32:34 first i was curious
1:32:36 why was the
1:32:38 overall goal for townhomes reduced from
1:32:40 30 to 29.
1:32:43 there was a reference i think in uh the
1:32:45 project narrative that you're going to
1:32:47 build 30.
1:32:48 yeah so at the pre-app stage i believe
1:32:51 we were showing a concept that had 32
1:32:54 townhomes on it
1:32:55 and that has been revised
1:32:57 to help better accommodate the thought
1:33:01 process behind in the intent behind the
1:33:03 through block passage through the site
1:33:05 as well as
1:33:07 um responding to
1:33:10 the feedback that we received at the
1:33:12 pre-op in terms of what that should look
1:33:14 like um what the require what we had
1:33:16 proposed at the pre-app was a potential
1:33:18 deviation from the the standards of the
1:33:21 three block passage
1:33:22 um because we had a
1:33:24 set of units located on the site that
1:33:27 created a pinch point just based on the
1:33:28 site geometries so to better provide the
1:33:32 standard of what the throughput passage
1:33:34 should be we took some of those units
1:33:37 to better develop that concept and
1:33:39 provide the through blockbuster suicide
1:33:41 that was the primary driving factor
1:33:42 there was a couple of other there was
1:33:44 some drainage and vault location
1:33:47 that also factored into that as well as
1:33:48 the tree retention up at the north of
1:33:50 the site okay that leads to another
1:33:52 question i had on through black
1:33:56 i believe on page 40 it says the site
1:33:59 design includes two primary and one
1:34:01 secondary
1:34:02 pedestrian only through block passage is
1:34:05 there a secondary passage there that i'm
1:34:07 not seeing on the design no there's not
1:34:09 that's that's an oversight
1:34:12 plan right okay thanks
1:34:15 getting to the arts and crafts style i'm
1:34:18 not an expert on this
1:34:20 but we may have some comments from the
1:34:22 architects on the commission later on so
1:34:24 i had some questions i wonder if the
1:34:26 darker masonry
1:34:28 that's shown in the packet there
1:34:30 is appropriate that high in the building
1:34:32 for arts and crafts style you might take
1:34:34 a check on that in the architecture and
1:34:36 urban design manual okay i think the
1:34:38 horizontal windows on the first level
1:34:40 are not really in a typical arts and
1:34:43 crafts effect um and together with that
1:34:47 i think multiple smaller window panes is
1:34:50 more typical of arts and crafts than i'm
1:34:52 really seeing on the design there so you
1:34:54 might take a look at those and i think
1:34:57 it would be helpful obviously to see
1:34:59 colors of materials
1:35:01 uh especially with a materials uh packet
1:35:04 later on in in the process so we can get
1:35:06 a little clearer idea what those are
1:35:08 tonight i'm seeing a little bit more
1:35:09 detail than we did on the original
1:35:11 packet of colors of those materials
1:35:13 yeah we actually over here on the side
1:35:15 we brought a couple material boards for
1:35:17 those two schemes and we can set them
1:35:19 out and you guys are free to you know
1:35:21 walk by and take a look at them okay um
1:35:24 and i just i guess a couple of questions
1:35:26 back to you and really so for the window
1:35:29 panes are you
1:35:30 referencing the actual window sizes
1:35:32 themselves or like the grids within the
1:35:34 the panes within the windows
1:35:37 windows window i think you tend to see a
1:35:39 lot of detail in arts and crafts design
1:35:42 within those windows understand the some
1:35:44 more contemporary take off in arts and
1:35:46 crafts so you right but you just might
1:35:48 look at what you can do within sure that
1:35:50 that criterion and then finally just
1:35:52 comment uh i'd like to appre i
1:35:55 appreciate uh
1:35:56 your cognizance of the city's
1:35:58 sustainability goals
1:36:00 and some of the steps and practices you
1:36:02 highlighted that you were looking at
1:36:04 possibly taking solar ready roofs
1:36:07 energy star appliances heat pumps
1:36:11 water sense fixtures and minimizing the
1:36:13 need for permanent irrigation so i think
1:36:15 that's a plus
1:36:18 any other comments from the development
1:36:19 commission tonight commissioner brennan
1:36:21 yeah just since i didn't add a comment
1:36:23 at the end of my questions
1:36:25 um we did hear a lot from the public
1:36:27 dine and really appreciate
1:36:30 people spending time with us
1:36:32 and giving us your input but a lot
1:36:34 around pedestrian safety and traffic
1:36:37 impacts and if you think about the
1:36:39 redevelopment that's happening in this
1:36:41 area now
1:36:42 the multi-family projects to the north
1:36:44 along with the shopping center up there
1:36:47 definitely can see how
1:36:49 we're experiencing more congestion
1:36:51 concern about pedestrian safety so we'll
1:36:54 uh i'll be interested when this comes
1:36:56 back to understand a little bit more
1:36:59 about
1:37:00 how that's being addressed kind of on
1:37:02 the ground and i know like you've talked
1:37:05 in your responses about the roundabout
1:37:07 not being you know still in kind of
1:37:09 amorphous stage you know some work yet
1:37:12 to be done there
1:37:13 but just how pedestrians will access the
1:37:15 site um and how um if there's needed
1:37:18 traffic calming the city may be able to
1:37:20 provide us some information about the
1:37:23 plans specifically for seventh but i'm
1:37:25 just in this particular vicinity
1:37:28 because it is we are seeing as planned
1:37:31 higher density uh in development and
1:37:33 with that comes the need to ensure being
1:37:36 attentive to the
1:37:37 um the capacitive needs of the safety
1:37:39 needs of the people that live and and
1:37:41 work through there or travel through
1:37:42 there so
1:37:43 just a comment um hopefully we can have
1:37:46 a little bit more detail when it comes
1:37:47 back on that
1:37:51 any other comments from the commission
1:37:52 tonight
1:37:54 okay thank you development commission
1:37:56 comments are closed for this evening
1:37:58 like to move on to reports i'd like to
1:38:00 ask staff to provide any updates on city
1:38:02 council meetings or activities
1:38:11 good evening commissioners and members
1:38:13 of the community
1:38:15 really good feedback on this project
1:38:18 we do have want to take a minute to
1:38:20 thank you all for your participation in
1:38:22 the title 18 update and that process has
1:38:25 been going along
1:38:26 but before we do that um
1:38:29 we wanted you know we want to announce
1:38:31 um that we are fully staffed now we've
1:38:34 added completed our team with the
1:38:36 planning manager position and uh
1:38:39 christian guys is here if you don't mind
1:38:41 turning on your camera and saying hi to
1:38:43 the commissioners
1:38:47 will be your staff liaison
1:38:52 he comes to us from city of kirkland
1:38:56 where he's worked for the last 15 years
1:38:58 um he started as a planner and i was a
1:39:01 planning supervisor there
1:39:04 so um christian take it away and
1:39:07 i thanks for joining and listening into
1:39:10 your first meeting it says day two
1:39:12 working for the city
1:39:16 yeah er very glad to be here very very
1:39:18 excited uh
1:39:19 such an interesting and uh dynamic way
1:39:22 to involve the public from
1:39:25 the the beginning of a project so i
1:39:28 really appreciate that and this will be
1:39:30 a lot of fun to
1:39:31 to get my feet wet and some new new
1:39:34 process and code and i hope i can
1:39:37 help out
1:39:38 with the staff and
1:39:40 developers and the public so
1:39:46 great thank you um
1:39:49 and uh we'll send you an email uh
1:39:52 christian will send you an email so you
1:39:53 have his contact information and um and
1:39:56 you know so you can reach out to him uh
1:39:58 he'll be your main point of uh contact
1:40:00 from the staff side
1:40:05 the other thing we wanted to share with
1:40:06 you is the title 18 update we are on
1:40:09 part six of six
1:40:11 uh so you all have been involved with uh
1:40:14 you know various sections and chapters
1:40:16 and so we're at the the last bucket
1:40:20 um and the last meeting on that is
1:40:22 august 25th
1:40:24 um we will send you a link to the packet
1:40:28 uh we had planned a lot of joint
1:40:29 meetings and didn't want you know trying
1:40:31 to balance the workload of different
1:40:32 boards and commissions we did not set
1:40:34 this up as a joint meeting
1:40:36 but wanted to kind of tell you about
1:40:38 this particular topic that that's on the
1:40:40 agenda for august 25th
1:40:42 it pertains to processes and procedures
1:40:45 um so during the early stages you'd
1:40:47 given us the feedback of the role of
1:40:49 development commission what comes to you
1:40:52 all what stays with the
1:40:55 the staff administrative level um and so
1:40:57 on and so forth so we've taken that
1:40:59 feedback and proposed this draft where
1:41:03 some of the discussion we want to have
1:41:05 with the planning and policy commission
1:41:06 is the size of the buildings that fall
1:41:09 within the administrative review versus
1:41:11 the development commission review of
1:41:13 course we're taking in what's in the
1:41:14 code currently and proposing a couple of
1:41:17 options to kind of streamline the
1:41:19 process a little bit um and make it more
1:41:22 clear and consistent and fair
1:41:24 uh the second thing in that bucket is um
1:41:28 you know really um you you all had said
1:41:31 perhaps there should be an interim
1:41:33 administrative decision for technical
1:41:35 things like the geotechnical reports and
1:41:37 critical area reports so we've built
1:41:40 that into the process uh where the focus
1:41:43 for the development commission would be
1:41:45 on a very clear criteria so we've added
1:41:47 the new criteria for a site development
1:41:50 review
1:41:51 so all of that will be packaged and
1:41:53 we'll send you a link
1:41:55 up to three members of the development
1:41:57 commission can attend without making a
1:41:59 quorum on that meeting if you would
1:42:01 rather attend
1:42:03 the meeting in person
1:42:05 or virtually sorry um
1:42:08 or in person
1:42:12 no more than three can attend unless we
1:42:14 have to notify
1:42:15 it as a public meeting or if you don't
1:42:18 have the time uh and want to send us
1:42:20 your comments by email that would be
1:42:22 great too but honestly we you know i
1:42:24 think we we really really appreciate you
1:42:27 the value you brought to the title 18
1:42:29 update and and your excellent comments
1:42:31 for all the previous project
1:42:33 chapters
1:42:34 um so this is the home stretch for the
1:42:36 first round of course there will be the
1:42:37 consolidated draft that will come out of
1:42:39 after the bucket six so that's all in
1:42:42 terms of announcements thank you
1:42:46 thank you are there any other items of
1:42:48 business or announcements from staff
1:42:53 there being no further business before
1:42:55 the commission this meeting is adjourned
1:42:57 at 8 43 pm thank you

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