Development Commission · Wednesday, July 6, 2022 · City Council Digest

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of April 12, 2022

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 04-12-22 Special Meeting of the Development Commission, Meeting Minutes

Minutes of May 12, 2022 19

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APPROVAL OF MINUTES b) 05-12-22 Special Joint Meeting Planning Policy Commission & Development Commission Meeting Minutes

Minutes of May 18, 2022 23

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Dhaliwal stated that Council is working on Title 18 and code enforcement procedures.

Minutes of June 9, 2022

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APPROVAL OF MINUTES d) 06-09-22 Special Joint Meeting Planning Policy Commission & Development Commission Meeting Minutes

4. REGULAR BUSINESS

Neighborhood Meeting and Community Conference: Milano Issaquah Apartments Project, (I) Permit Numbers: PRJ20-00008, NM22- Address: 2300 Newport Way NW Parcel Number: 2024069057 Description: The applicant is proposing to construct a 7-story apartment building consisting of 104-units on a 1.33-acre site. The apartment building will provide on-site parking with a 90-stall, 2-level, underbuilding parking garage. Site improvements will include constructing an internal drive aisle, a through block passage, usable open space, on-site landscaping, and frontage improvements

Valerie Porter, Associate Planner Hossein Khorram, Milano Apartments & Townhomes Comments/Questions Neighborhood Meeting Materials Community Conference Materials · packet pp.114

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Staff report:

Project Name: Milano Issaquah Apartments Date: 12-Nov-21 Prepared by: L. Keil Talasaea Consultants

5. REPORTS

City Council Update

Valerie Porter, Associate Planner

6. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

Upcoming Schedule

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2022 Development Commission Schedule (tentative) (updated 5/9/2022)

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0:17 ↗ good evening and welcome

0:19 ↗ i would like to call the july 6 meeting

0:21 ↗ of the city of issaquah's development

0:23 ↗ commission to order at 6 pm

0:26 ↗ as a reminder we do still have a remote

0:29 ↗ aspect to our meetings

0:31 ↗ this means both staff and members of the

0:33 ↗ public may be participating in the

0:35 ↗ meeting remotely via the webex

0:37 ↗ application

0:39 ↗ our first item of business tonight is to

0:41 ↗ take action on several sets of meeting

0:44 ↗ minutes that we have for april 12th may

0:47 ↗ 12th

0:48 ↗ may 18th and june 9th

0:50 ↗ all of which were provided in our agenda

0:52 ↗ packet so i hope everybody's had a

0:54 ↗ chance to review the minutes

0:57 ↗ so first are there any corrections to

0:59 ↗ the april 12 minutes provided in the

1:01 ↗ packet

1:04 ↗ hearing none the minutes are approved

1:06 ↗ are there any corrections to the may

1:08 ↗ 12th minutes in the agenda packet

1:11 ↗ [Music]

1:12 ↗ hearing none meetings are the minutes

1:14 ↗ are approved

1:15 ↗ are there any corrections to the may 12

1:19 ↗ minutes in the agenda packet

1:22 ↗ hearing none minutes are approved and

1:25 ↗ are there any corrections to the may

1:27 ↗ 18th minutes

1:30 ↗ and finally are there any corrections to

1:32 ↗ the june 9th minutes provided in the

1:34 ↗ agenda packet

1:37 ↗ hearing none all the

1:39 ↗ meeting minutes are approved

1:41 ↗ next i'd like to open the floor for any

1:43 ↗ members of the public in person or

1:45 ↗ virtually who'd like to make a general

1:47 ↗ comment

1:48 ↗ this is not about the milano issaquah

1:50 ↗ apartments project

1:52 ↗ but on general topics there will be an

1:54 ↗ opportunity later in the meeting for

1:56 ↗ those who'd like to comment about the

1:58 ↗ project on tonight's agenda

2:01 ↗ those who are here in person and signed

2:03 ↗ up in advance to make comments will be

2:05 ↗ called on first

2:06 ↗ if you're in the room and did not stop

2:09 ↗ i'll ask for other speakers before

2:11 ↗ closing this portion of the meeting

2:14 ↗ if you're joining us by computer or

2:16 ↗ smartphone via webex and you'd like to

2:18 ↗ make a comment please raise your virtual

2:21 ↗ hand

2:22 ↗ this varies by device

2:24 ↗ one option may be to go to the

2:26 ↗ participant panel and choose the raise

2:28 ↗ hand icon in the lower right corner it

2:31 ↗ may also be located under the reactions

2:34 ↗ menu or the more menu

2:37 ↗ if you're on the phone and not on a

2:39 ↗ computer to make a comment press star 3

2:42 ↗ on your phone

2:44 ↗ for those making comments please direct

2:46 ↗ them to the development commission

2:48 ↗ for in-person attendees please step up

2:51 ↗ to the lectern

2:52 ↗ for meeting attendees participating

2:54 ↗ virtually when recognized please unmute

2:57 ↗ your microphone

2:59 ↗ when it's your turn to speak state your

3:01 ↗ name each time before speaking speak

3:04 ↗ clearly and especially if you're

3:06 ↗ attending remotely please pause

3:08 ↗ frequently and please limit your

3:10 ↗ comments to five minutes

3:12 ↗ if you're attending virtually and you

3:14 ↗ don't respond after your name or phone

3:16 ↗ number is called or if your connection's

3:18 ↗ lost the meeting will need to proceed

3:21 ↗ you're encouraged to rejoin the meeting

3:23 ↗ if you're able to do so

3:25 ↗ ms porter has anyone signed up to make

3:28 ↗ general public comments

3:31 ↗ chair no

3:32 ↗ can you hear me okay

3:34 ↗ okay yes um

3:37 ↗ no one has signed up to make general

3:38 ↗ comments in the room here and let me

3:41 ↗ just

3:41 ↗ monitor to see if anyone

3:44 ↗ indicated a desire to speak virtually

3:50 ↗ i don't see that any oh i do see a

3:52 ↗ raised hand

3:56 ↗ carlos topang i see you would like to

3:58 ↗ make general comments

4:01 ↗ the development commission i'm going to

4:02 ↗ make you a panelist now you should then

4:04 ↗ be able to unmute and can choose to turn

4:06 ↗ your video on

4:13 ↗ carlos you have the floor

4:23 ↗ good evening

4:24 ↗ my name is carlos tapang

4:28 ↗ i understand it was

4:30 ↗ stated that this is not about the milano

4:33 ↗ apartments that's being built

4:36 ↗ however i do want to make a general

4:39 ↗ comment

4:40 ↗ and

4:41 ↗ that is that

4:44 ↗ we uh

4:45 ↗ make a lot of effort in following uh

4:49 ↗ building codes

4:50 ↗ and so i think uh the people who

4:54 ↗ are

4:54 ↗ making the decisions

4:56 ↗ should take that into account um

4:59 ↗ whether the business is actually

5:01 ↗ providing

5:02 ↗ uh

5:03 ↗ a benefit to the community or not and i

5:05 ↗ think that's the only consideration

5:07 ↗ right i mean if people want to uh have a

5:11 ↗ uh

5:12 ↗ a nice apartment in a certain location

5:15 ↗ and i'm sure that's been

5:17 ↗ better than everything uh i think uh it

5:21 ↗ should happen i mean it's for the good

5:22 ↗ of the community that's all thank you

5:30 ↗ chair i'm

5:32 ↗ monitoring the other

5:35 ↗ virtual attendees and i don't see that

5:36 ↗ anyone's wishing to make general

5:38 ↗ comments at this time

5:39 ↗ okay thank you

5:41 ↗ if you have not signed up is there

5:42 ↗ anyone else in the room who would like

5:44 ↗ to make a general comment to the

5:46 ↗ commission

5:54 ↗ thank you

5:56 ↗ hearing none we'll move on to our main

5:58 ↗ agenda item of the evening

6:00 ↗ joint community conference and

6:02 ↗ environmental neighborhood meeting

6:05 ↗ the purpose of this meeting is to

6:06 ↗ provide the community an opportunity for

6:09 ↗ to participate in the permitting process

6:11 ↗ generate discussion and understand the

6:14 ↗ proposal with particular focus on

6:16 ↗ critical areas on and off the project

6:19 ↗ site

6:20 ↗ the order of tonight's meeting will be a

6:22 ↗ staff presentation first and then an

6:25 ↗ applicant presentation then there will

6:27 ↗ be an opportunity for public comment and

6:30 ↗ finally comment by the development

6:32 ↗ commission

6:35 ↗ now we'll proceed with the staff's

6:36 ↗ presentation

6:38 ↗ ms porter please go ahead

7:00 ↗ thanks hello my name is valerie porter

7:02 ↗ and i'm an associate planner i'm going

7:04 ↗ to be the planner reviewing this project

7:08 ↗ so tonight we're having a joint

7:09 ↗ community conference and environmental

7:11 ↗ meeting and it's important to note that

7:13 ↗ the development commission is restricted

7:15 ↗ from communicating with the applicant or

7:17 ↗ members of the public about this project

7:20 ↗ there will be time to direct

7:21 ↗ communications at the public hearing

7:24 ↗ once scheduled the purpose of tonight's

7:26 ↗ meeting is to have an informal

7:28 ↗ conversation about the milano issaquah

7:30 ↗ apartment project this meeting is to

7:32 ↗ grant the community an opportunity to

7:34 ↗ speak directly to the applicant and

7:36 ↗ voice any concerns or ask any questions

7:39 ↗ no decisions will be made tonight

7:41 ↗ staff would like to hear from the

7:43 ↗ community about big picture items

7:45 ↗ issues that focus on the project's

7:47 ↗ design site challenges

7:50 ↗ or any creative ideas you may have

7:52 ↗ comments related to the critical areas

7:54 ↗ on site will be provided to the

7:56 ↗ environmental board which advised the

7:58 ↗ mayor city council and staff and all

8:00 ↗ general comments will be used to assess

8:02 ↗ the project in coordination with the

8:04 ↗ project review so when the time comes

8:06 ↗ and the meeting is opened up for

8:08 ↗ comments and questions please direct all

8:10 ↗ questions and comments to the applicant

8:13 ↗ any questions regarding permitting or

8:15 ↗ the process will you can direct to staff

8:20 ↗ so just a little bit about the

8:21 ↗ permitting process

8:23 ↗ so

8:23 ↗ in order for this proposal to proceed it

8:26 ↗ requires an approved site development

8:27 ↗ permit and a cipa decision which the

8:30 ↗ applicant has applied for it is

8:32 ↗ currently under city review

8:33 ↗ once staff completes their review a sipa

8:36 ↗ decision will be issued by staff and

8:38 ↗ staff will make a recommendation to the

8:40 ↗ development commission which are the

8:42 ↗ decision makers for the site development

8:43 ↗ permit a decision by the development

8:46 ↗ commission will be made during a public

8:48 ↗ hearing and prior to the public hearing

8:50 ↗ notices will be sent out to property

8:52 ↗ owners within 300 feet of the site

8:54 ↗ parties of records and a notice or

8:57 ↗ information will be also posted on the

8:58 ↗ site board as well as posted on the

9:00 ↗ city's active project projects list

9:03 ↗ should the project be approved the

9:05 ↗ project will then move to the

9:06 ↗ construction phase and once all

9:09 ↗ necessary construction permits have been

9:11 ↗ obtained the project may begin

9:12 ↗ construction

9:15 ↗ so just a little information about the

9:17 ↗ site

9:18 ↗ the site is located at 2300 newport way

9:20 ↗ northwest which is

9:22 ↗ on the east side of newport way and

9:24 ↗ pinecone drive

9:26 ↗ the site is located within the central

9:28 ↗ istaquah sub area and is owned

9:31 ↗ village residential and has been

9:33 ↗ designated multi-family residential by

9:36 ↗ the comp plan

9:37 ↗ due to the location of this site the

9:39 ↗ project must comply with the central

9:42 ↗ issaquah development design standards

9:44 ↗ the central issaquah architecture and

9:46 ↗ urban design manual as well as this

9:48 ↗ critical area code that's located in the

9:50 ↗ issaquah municipal code

9:53 ↗ so

9:54 ↗ just a little information about the

9:56 ↗ project i'm not going to get into detail

9:57 ↗ i'm going to let the applicant do that

9:59 ↗ but the applicant is proposing to

10:01 ↗ construct a seven-story apartment

10:02 ↗ building on a 1.3 acre site the

10:05 ↗ apartment building will house 104 units

10:08 ↗ with 90 parking stalls in an

10:10 ↗ underbuilding parking garage

10:12 ↗ the project is proposing site

10:14 ↗ improvements which will consist of an

10:16 ↗ internal road that connects to newport

10:18 ↗ way

10:19 ↗ landscaping around the site

10:21 ↗ indoor and outdoor community space for

10:24 ↗ the residents a through block passage

10:26 ↗ along the back side of the building

10:28 ↗ utility services for the site and

10:31 ↗ frontage improvements along newport way

10:35 ↗ the site does contain critical areas

10:37 ↗ there is one stream which classified as

10:40 ↗ a class ii with seminoid that has a

10:43 ↗ standard buffer of 100 feet the

10:45 ↗ applicant is proposing to reduce the

10:47 ↗ buffer by 25 feet to make it 75.

10:50 ↗ there is also a wetland off-site

10:54 ↗ that is classified as a category 3

10:56 ↗ wetland and has a standard buffer of 75

10:59 ↗ feet the applicant is proposing to

11:01 ↗ reduce the buffer to 56.25 feet

11:05 ↗ there are so are there's also street

11:07 ↗ steep slopes on the site and they're

11:09 ↗ located along newport way

11:12 ↗ the project believes that the steep soap

11:15 ↗ qualify for exempt and so they're

11:18 ↗ proposing to make direct impacts to the

11:20 ↗ steep slopes

11:22 ↗ there are

11:23 ↗ some trees on the site

11:25 ↗ some located within the developable area

11:27 ↗ and some located within the critical

11:29 ↗ area buffer the project is proposing to

11:31 ↗ keep all trees located in the buffer but

11:34 ↗ remove all trees located in the

11:36 ↗ developable area which you can see on

11:38 ↗ the plan are marked by x's

11:43 ↗ so before i hand things over to the

11:45 ↗ applicant i would just like to remind

11:47 ↗ everyone that this project is still

11:48 ↗ under review by the city and additional

11:50 ↗ changes may occur after this meeting

11:52 ↗ should anyone like to stay informed or

11:54 ↗ become a party of record provide written

11:56 ↗ comments please feel free to contact me

11:59 ↗ my phone number and email

12:01 ↗ are on the notice that you received and

12:03 ↗ as well they're posted

12:06 ↗ a public hearing for this project has

12:08 ↗ not been scheduled yet but once one is

12:11 ↗ notices will be sent out to again the

12:13 ↗ property owners within 300 feet parties

12:15 ↗ of records there will be information on

12:18 ↗ the site board and this will occur 10

12:20 ↗ days in advance of the meeting

12:23 ↗ that concludes my presentation

12:35 ↗ thank you

12:36 ↗ now we'll proceed with the applicant's

12:38 ↗ presentation by their consultant team

12:41 ↗ if you would please provide information

12:43 ↗ on your team during your presentation

12:59 ↗ architecture

13:15 ↗ well uh my name is jose koram i'm the

13:18 ↗ applicant here my brother frank is my

13:22 ↗ partner i'm glad to have him

13:25 ↗ and i owe a lot of this work to my

13:27 ↗ lovely wife elohe who is there

13:30 ↗ she supported me through all the years

13:35 ↗ you know one thing that we do is we

13:37 ↗ become part of the communities that we

13:39 ↗ serve

13:41 ↗ i never forget the day we came to the

13:43 ↗ united states of the teenager

13:45 ↗ and

13:47 ↗ we had to escape iran

13:50 ↗ and we left with

13:51 ↗ nothing more than a little suitcase my

13:54 ↗ family

13:55 ↗ we came and this great country gave a

13:57 ↗ sanctuary and treated us as one of our

13:59 ↗ own children

14:01 ↗ went to school got a degree in

14:02 ↗ engineering i worked for the us military

14:05 ↗ i worked for the boeing company and then

14:08 ↗ i started my own business

14:10 ↗ i'm in gratitude and a death to america

14:13 ↗ who given me sanctuary to be who i am

14:17 ↗ i started me and my brother started the

14:19 ↗ development business

14:20 ↗ about 25 years ago we're small local

14:23 ↗ developers

14:25 ↗ we become part of the communities that

14:26 ↗ we serve

14:28 ↗ we

14:28 ↗ listen to our neighbors we listen to the

14:30 ↗ community

14:32 ↗ and i want to hear from the members of

14:34 ↗ the community and the planning

14:35 ↗ commissions tonight how is it that we

14:37 ↗ can do this thing better

14:40 ↗ the project and actually i want to go to

14:42 ↗ the project here the project actually

14:44 ↗ has a class 2 stream as valerie

14:46 ↗ mentioned there

14:48 ↗ currently there's a single family home

14:50 ↗ on site

14:51 ↗ the single family home is on a septic

14:54 ↗ tank and a drain field

14:56 ↗ and the drain field actually deposits

14:58 ↗ very close roughly about 20 feet

15:01 ↗ away from the stream itself it's been

15:04 ↗ there for years there is

15:06 ↗ there's a suspicion that there is a fuel

15:09 ↗ tank close by within 20 feet or 25 feet

15:12 ↗ of the stream

15:14 ↗ and

15:15 ↗ not only that their the stream is wide

15:17 ↗ open to the public so is the wetland

15:21 ↗ so

15:22 ↗ what we're doing we're actually

15:24 ↗ applying under the current

15:26 ↗ issac municipal code

15:28 ↗ for a buffer reduction of 25

15:32 ↗ of the stream

15:33 ↗ in return

15:35 ↗ for

15:36 ↗ closing the stream off

15:38 ↗ at 75 feet and removing the

15:41 ↗ non-conformities

15:43 ↗ and the contaminations that have been

15:45 ↗ released into the stream

15:49 ↗ the code provides for one-to-one

15:52 ↗ well roughly if i remember we're roughly

15:54 ↗ about

15:55 ↗ 7 700 square feet of

15:57 ↗ non

15:58 ↗ of impervious space and civil can

16:01 ↗ correct me from wrong

16:04 ↗ that we're removing

16:06 ↗ that

16:07 ↗ what we are actually

16:09 ↗ uh reducing the buffer if i recall right

16:11 ↗ is about is less than 5 000 square feet

16:14 ↗ so there's a significant

16:16 ↗ improvement

16:18 ↗ in the buffer and the buffer actually

16:19 ↗ has been enhanced

16:21 ↗ the currently the buffer is

16:24 ↗ it's uh

16:25 ↗ is uh

16:26 ↗ is vegetated with invasive species we're

16:30 ↗ removing the invasive species and

16:33 ↗ planting the

16:35 ↗ native and with irrigation

16:37 ↗ and

16:38 ↗ tried to restore the buffer to the

16:40 ↗ original

16:42 ↗ pristine conditions

16:44 ↗ prior to all of this happening

16:46 ↗ on the wetland

16:49 ↗ we um the wetland actually is 75 feet

16:52 ↗ that's correct the the submission that

16:54 ↗ we had about two months ago it asked for

16:57 ↗ a 25 reduction i'm sorry to say we were

17:00 ↗ wrong at 25 is not proper it should be

17:03 ↗ 15

17:04 ↗ so we already made corrections to the

17:06 ↗ plants and you can see it up here

17:09 ↗ in addition um we found out just the

17:12 ↗ last week

17:13 ↗ and this has been a work in progress i

17:15 ↗ really appreciate working with the city

17:17 ↗ staff they've been lovely

17:19 ↗ but this is a very complicated field

17:21 ↗ that development is not easy there's

17:23 ↗ we've gone through hundreds of revisions

17:26 ↗ and there's going to be more uh

17:27 ↗ everything that anything we found out to

17:29 ↗ date we've been able to fix there was a

17:33 ↗ decision made that the the

17:36 ↗ the

17:37 ↗ setbacks from the underground detention

17:40 ↗ vault

17:41 ↗ should be 20 to the north to the proper

17:43 ↗ line and 20 to the south

17:45 ↗ we had asked for a reduction that that

17:48 ↗ was not acceptable we're fine with that

17:50 ↗ we want to make sure the emergency

17:52 ↗ vehicles and public safety is properly

17:56 ↗ re it's operated in the in that area so

17:59 ↗ we pushed the building down south as you

18:01 ↗ can see

18:03 ↗ so we'll cut up the north of the

18:04 ↗ building so i think the 104 was think of

18:07 ↗ the past

18:08 ↗ it's going to be less now and we try to

18:11 ↗ find out how many units it will be

18:14 ↗ hopefully within the next week or two

18:18 ↗ i think this is going to be a great

18:19 ↗ improvement for the community we're

18:21 ↗ going to serve a purpose the purpose is

18:24 ↗ provide housing to the people there will

18:26 ↗ be

18:27 ↗ affordable housing we are voluntarily

18:30 ↗ applying for the affordable housing and

18:33 ↗ in the density bonus program there are

18:36 ↗ there are

18:38 ↗ density increases we asking for those

18:41 ↗ under the density bonus program

18:44 ↗ the way it is that two-thirds of it will

18:46 ↗ provide a fee

18:48 ↗ for the density increase

18:50 ↗ for the one-third is the affordable

18:52 ↗ units

18:55 ↗ under the old plan which submitted two

18:57 ↗ months ago we were

18:59 ↗ at 12 then numbers went up to 20 and now

19:02 ↗ it might be a little less something

19:04 ↗ between 10 and 20 affordable units uh 80

19:08 ↗ percent of them are going to be at king

19:09 ↗ county median income and the 20 would be

19:12 ↗ at 50

19:15 ↗ and this is a very difficult time for

19:17 ↗ many in the public especially our youth

19:22 ↗ with the rental and cost of housing

19:24 ↗ having gone up something in the range of

19:26 ↗ 20 28 to

19:28 ↗ vicinity of 50

19:30 ↗ for the sale products

19:32 ↗ people are struggling we want to be able

19:34 ↗ to help any way we can

19:36 ↗ and this is one of the ways that i can

19:38 ↗ pay back to the community

19:40 ↗ there there was some questions about

19:43 ↗ uh

19:44 ↗ setback from the front edge uh this the

19:47 ↗ current city code provides for

19:50 ↗ zero to 15 foot setback from newport way

19:54 ↗ and actually we're roughly about 13 or

19:56 ↗ 14 feet uh i don't think we can go much

19:59 ↗ i mean this is as far as it can possibly

20:01 ↗ be

20:02 ↗ with the 15 feet being the maximum uh

20:06 ↗ there was a issue with the sight

20:08 ↗ distance that architect was able to

20:11 ↗ solve and later he could answer that

20:13 ↗ question

20:14 ↗ we were asking for we didn't properly

20:17 ↗ ask for a deviation but

20:19 ↗ but uh

20:20 ↗ but we

20:21 ↗ end up pushing the building back a

20:23 ↗ little bit and cutting it and rotating

20:25 ↗ it so right now uh with this new plan

20:28 ↗ that you see up here

20:30 ↗ the sight distance for left turn which

20:33 ↗ is at 335 feet at 30 miles per hour it's

20:37 ↗ been met we don't have any issues with

20:38 ↗ that

20:39 ↗ we've been able to solve we we tried to

20:42 ↗ solve everything that we know this is a

20:44 ↗ work in progress

20:46 ↗ city has been staff has been great uh

20:49 ↗ director dollar wall has been great

20:51 ↗ valerie's been great so we look forward

20:53 ↗ to continuing that graduation

20:55 ↗ relationship for the benefit of the

20:57 ↗ public

20:58 ↗ there has been some comments about

21:01 ↗ the the look of the building

21:04 ↗ this is the uh

21:06 ↗ the this is traditional issaquah

21:09 ↗ it's designated for the area it's

21:12 ↗ village residential the zoning the

21:14 ↗ current zoning it's it's for as a medium

21:17 ↗ density has a far floor error ratio of

21:20 ↗ uh three uh with the

21:23 ↗ recalculations of our

21:25 ↗ density calculations that valerie before

21:28 ↗ me we were wrong and that's not a

21:30 ↗ revision that we fixed and we're roughly

21:32 ↗ about 2.3 or 2.4 2.3 something and a

21:36 ↗ change so we're way below the a lot of

21:40 ↗ far off three

21:42 ↗ as far as the height goes

21:45 ↗ where the maximum height with the

21:47 ↗ density increase a lot

21:49 ↗ under the density

21:51 ↗ bonus program is 65 feet we're roughly

21:53 ↗ about 64 and it changed maybe about 64.

21:57 ↗ so we meet that too and by the way the

21:59 ↗ density of bonus program was inspired by

22:02 ↗ state of washington mandate on the rcw

22:05 ↗ to provide affordable housing so

22:09 ↗ city of issaquah

22:12 ↗ i think they did a great job trying to

22:14 ↗ follow the state mandate and provide

22:16 ↗ housing

22:18 ↗ for

22:18 ↗ for the youth and the people who really

22:20 ↗ need

22:22 ↗ to want to live in issaquah

22:25 ↗ i we did get uh get some comments from

22:27 ↗ some of the public that

22:29 ↗ uh that you know we have too many

22:31 ↗ apartments too many you know too much

22:34 ↗ construction

22:35 ↗ and i understand that i understand that

22:38 ↗ if i had a choice to look at the

22:40 ↗ building or open field

22:42 ↗ i would take the open field let's be

22:44 ↗ honest that's better it's prettier i

22:47 ↗ don't want to look at the building if i

22:48 ↗ don't have to

22:50 ↗ but i think the city of mississippi did

22:51 ↗ a great job of balancing

22:53 ↗ the need of the current residents who by

22:56 ↗ the way they don't live in central

22:58 ↗ issaquah most of them live in a

22:59 ↗ residential area this property is

23:01 ↗ located in central issaquah it's part of

23:03 ↗ the downtown zoning

23:05 ↗ and

23:06 ↗ and and the need of the people the next

23:09 ↗ generations there's some people here are

23:11 ↗ going to testify tonight how can we

23:14 ↗ expect our people to pay 30 or 50 more

23:18 ↗ from last year for their housing

23:22 ↗ i know my income hasn't gone up that

23:24 ↗ much

23:25 ↗ and i think most people income have not

23:27 ↗ increased by that much so i think we

23:29 ↗ need to consider those things and

23:32 ↗ and a deal that not everybody is happy

23:35 ↗ is a right deal i think for the public

23:37 ↗ because we all

23:40 ↗ have to take a win on this thing to a

23:42 ↗ certain extent nobody will have it all

23:45 ↗ as far as the traffic goes

23:47 ↗ yes

23:48 ↗ i do know

23:49 ↗ will add some of the traffic on our

23:51 ↗ traffic engineers tonight he's going to

23:53 ↗ answer some questions

23:55 ↗ but i think you got to look at the

23:56 ↗ holistic view vision of this thing here

23:59 ↗ we have tried to mitigate the traffic to

24:01 ↗ the maximum the extent possible i think

24:04 ↗ the channelerizations there is

24:06 ↗ raised intersections that will end up

24:09 ↗ lowering the vehicle's speed

24:11 ↗ from the current 30 miles

24:14 ↗ to a lower speed so uh the the and the

24:18 ↗ with the public benefit and by the way

24:20 ↗ we have a true blog passage which you

24:23 ↗ kind of see on on on the right hand side

24:27 ↗ which actually it's it would be a

24:29 ↗ benefit for the for the public for the

24:31 ↗ neighborhood

24:32 ↗ people could walk in that area walk

24:34 ↗ their pet walk the family and it's not

24:37 ↗ just for the property the neighboring

24:39 ↗ properties could enjoy it too and we

24:42 ↗ have interpretation we have to have

24:43 ↗ science education science so i think it

24:47 ↗ is really meant to integrate the

24:49 ↗ community

24:50 ↗ and the the nature and the environment

24:53 ↗ together

24:54 ↗ currently the site is all being used the

24:58 ↗ entire site is being used

25:00 ↗ what we're proposing is to close 38 of

25:04 ↗ the site

25:06 ↗ and call it natural

25:08 ↗ habitat growth maybe i'm saying the

25:11 ↗ wrong terms i think the ladies would

25:12 ↗ know better this is our

25:15 ↗ landscape architect and this is the area

25:18 ↗ which is the area of reduced buffer

25:20 ↗ and what it does it protects the

25:22 ↗ environment it protects the stream it

25:25 ↗ protects the wetlands

25:27 ↗ so it's not been

25:29 ↗ intruded by

25:30 ↗ public

25:32 ↗ or

25:34 ↗ you know by

25:35 ↗ you know drain filled or by

25:37 ↗ a possible leaking fuel tank which might

25:40 ↗ be close by

25:42 ↗ so uh i think i want to

25:45 ↗ i

25:46 ↗ i there there's a lot of questions that

25:48 ↗ may be out there i don't want to be

25:50 ↗ talking too much i want to take

25:52 ↗ questions whenever the staff thinks the

25:54 ↗ right time if i spoke too much please

25:57 ↗ forgive me i've been at this thing for

25:59 ↗ three years it's a long time my wife is

26:02 ↗ very patient with me here

26:04 ↗ it's and we're a small company i don't

26:06 ↗ have we don't have a like a league of

26:09 ↗ consultants the managers you're looking

26:12 ↗ at me

26:13 ↗ i'm the lead i have great consultants

26:15 ↗ here but there's a lot of translation

26:18 ↗ between the project management and the

26:20 ↗ consultants there's a lot of back and

26:22 ↗ forth

26:23 ↗ and i know

26:25 ↗ director dollar wall and valerie

26:28 ↗ please forgive me if i ask too many

26:30 ↗ questions if i've been hard it's been a

26:32 ↗ long time this is a difficult project

26:35 ↗ we're in difficult times

26:37 ↗ we're in the time that inflation is

26:39 ↗ ravaging the middle class where the time

26:41 ↗ that the

26:42 ↗ incomes are been actually regressing the

26:45 ↗ rents are going through the roof the

26:47 ↗ cost of housing is too much

26:49 ↗ i think we need to be courageous in our

26:51 ↗ decisions

26:52 ↗ by the way the solar program that we

26:54 ↗ have we're proposing to use solar on the

26:57 ↗ roof the entire roof is going to be

26:59 ↗ covered with the solar panels we're

27:00 ↗ proposing the solar system to provide

27:03 ↗ for roughly about eighty percent of the

27:07 ↗ common area energy eighty percent

27:10 ↗ uh

27:11 ↗ people say well that does that really

27:13 ↗ make sense was yes it does it does make

27:16 ↗ sense i'm a mechanical engineer that was

27:18 ↗ my passion when i graduated from

27:20 ↗ washington state university almost i

27:23 ↗ can't remember it's been so long

27:25 ↗ i always want to do a solo program this

27:27 ↗ is my chance

27:29 ↗ don't take it away from me and

27:32 ↗ you know i'll tell you here there's

27:35 ↗ the tax or within five years or six

27:37 ↗ years the solo program is gonna pay for

27:41 ↗ itself and it's gonna start making money

27:42 ↗ yes it's a bit of a bite at first

27:45 ↗ but it will pay dividend

27:47 ↗ now not only that we're actually we're

27:49 ↗ going to be lead certified we're going

27:51 ↗ to be at the leading edge of the

27:53 ↗ technology and to make sure we have

27:57 ↗ sustainable material and installations

28:00 ↗ for this project here this would be a

28:02 ↗ truly landmark

28:04 ↗ community for the city of issaquah

28:06 ↗ something that the commissioners and the

28:08 ↗ city council

28:10 ↗ could talk about as a unique product

28:13 ↗ that actually protects the environment

28:16 ↗ and serves the community in need now

28:19 ↗ going back to the trees here yes we made

28:22 ↗ a mistake another one another reason we

28:24 ↗ were proposing to remove all the trees

28:27 ↗ and the developer area but guess what we

28:30 ↗ were wrong sorry we got it fixed we're

28:32 ↗ keeping two of the two of that

28:35 ↗ that's okay no worries we uh we got

28:38 ↗ we're saving two of the significant

28:40 ↗ trees i think we're planting is 29 or

28:45 ↗ 29 trees so we're basically uh cutting

28:49 ↗ how many are we cutting like four fibers

28:55 ↗ we're cutting six trees significant

28:57 ↗ trees we're planting 29

28:59 ↗ but the real deal is this the solo

29:02 ↗ program that we're proposing actually is

29:04 ↗ providing for

29:06 ↗ carbon footprint equal to 1200 trees a

29:10 ↗ year 1200 1200

29:13 ↗ in a 25-year period the solar program

29:16 ↗ that we have for proposing is equal

29:20 ↗ to

29:21 ↗ 30 000 trees

29:24 ↗ planted

29:26 ↗ so

29:27 ↗ really progress modernity does not have

29:30 ↗ to come

29:31 ↗ at the expense of the environment

29:33 ↗ there's a way

29:35 ↗ we can address both and this is the

29:37 ↗ opportunity for city issaquah

29:40 ↗ and the planning commissioners to take

29:43 ↗ the bold step and go forward yes going

29:46 ↗ to be challenges but i think we can

29:48 ↗ overcome the challenges and serve the

29:50 ↗ need of the future

29:52 ↗ by

29:54 ↗ allowing milano pro project to proceed

29:58 ↗ and we're still going to have revisions

29:59 ↗ we're going to do them all and we're

30:01 ↗ going to do

30:02 ↗ a great project for this entire city

30:04 ↗ thank you very much

30:08 ↗ [Applause]

30:11 ↗ thank you mr crumb does that conclude

30:13 ↗ your presentation

30:14 ↗ yes sir thank you

30:16 ↗ now i'm going to open the meeting for

30:18 ↗ public questions and comments

30:20 ↗ for those making comments as ms porter

30:23 ↗ mentioned earlier please direct your

30:25 ↗ comments and questions to the applicant

30:27 ↗ the staff's here to answer questions

30:29 ↗ about the review and permitting process

30:31 ↗ but i ask that all questions

30:33 ↗ related to the site or the design be

30:36 ↗ directed to the applicant and its design

30:38 ↗ team

30:40 ↗ as a reminder when it's your turn to

30:41 ↗ speak state your name each time before

30:43 ↗ speaking speak clearly and limit your

30:46 ↗ comments to five minutes

30:48 ↗ after a comment or question has been

30:50 ↗ stated the applicant or someone from the

30:52 ↗ design team will provide a response

30:56 ↗ do we have anyone signed up for comment

30:58 ↗ on this topic

31:01 ↗ yes we currently have 17 individuals

31:04 ↗ signed up to make comments here in the

31:06 ↗ room and i will monitor uh our virtual

31:08 ↗ attendees we'll go through the in-person

31:11 ↗ attendees first and the first speaker is

31:14 ↗ kyle lebdyev

31:23 ↗ thank you commission for opportunity to

31:25 ↗ speak thank you mr hussein

31:28 ↗ my name is kyle

31:29 ↗ i'm a local contractor and the owner of

31:32 ↗ the small construction business

31:34 ↗ that working throughout the puget sound

31:37 ↗ uh being in a field in a construction

31:39 ↗ field every single day and working on a

31:41 ↗ residential construction when the

31:42 ↗ multi-family new projects i can tell you

31:45 ↗ and clearly one thing that the um our

31:48 ↗ cities are washington state in a in a

31:50 ↗ housing crisis

31:52 ↗ and a sooner we're going to resolve that

31:54 ↗ it's going to be better so looking on a

31:57 ↗ great milan issaqua apartment it's going

32:00 ↗ to provide a significant relief

32:02 ↗ and the price drop in housing for the

32:04 ↗ community it's going to provide a lot of

32:07 ↗ a lot of potential for the youth it's

32:10 ↗ going to drag much more people within

32:12 ↗ the state of limits which is going to

32:13 ↗ attract a lot of investors to invest in

32:15 ↗ the city and do much more business which

32:17 ↗ is going to give the bigger bigger

32:19 ↗ growth

32:21 ↗ for the city

32:22 ↗ i just want to let you know that the

32:24 ↗ washington state recently been

32:26 ↗ are ranked by the housing study of 50th

32:29 ↗ which is the worst out of the 50 states

32:32 ↗ by housing numbers

32:34 ↗ per family unit

32:36 ↗ a washington state shortage on housing

32:38 ↗ approximately stands in a 250 000 units

32:43 ↗ so i just want to ask you a commission

32:45 ↗ uh when you're going to make your

32:46 ↗ decision please consider my comments and

32:48 ↗ proceed with the permitting

32:50 ↗ as faster as possible to construct uh

32:52 ↗ milano

32:54 ↗ asaq apartments thank you

33:08 ↗ sorry

33:09 ↗ next we have paul hess

33:14 ↗ my name is paul hess

33:16 ↗ i want to thank the commission for this

33:18 ↗ opportunity you're this unsung heroes of

33:21 ↗ city government

33:23 ↗ and i like the fact that you use the

33:25 ↗ name development

33:27 ↗ rather than planning

33:30 ↗ i want to ask a couple of questions of

33:33 ↗ hussein

33:34 ↗ i consider him a real friend known him

33:38 ↗ 14 years

33:40 ↗ i consider him a brother he's honest

33:43 ↗ he's first generation american

33:46 ↗ he's made it from nothing

33:48 ↗ along with his brother frank

33:50 ↗ he's muslim american

33:53 ↗ he's bright knowledgeable

33:55 ↗ humble creative direct respectful and i

33:59 ↗ trust him

34:01 ↗ and he also is willing to admit and he's

34:04 ↗ done it two or three times tonight

34:05 ↗ already if he makes a mistake he'll tell

34:08 ↗ you and then he wants to fix it

34:11 ↗ he has a wonderful attitude toward life

34:14 ↗ a wonderful wife and two sons

34:17 ↗ so what i want to do with my remaining

34:20 ↗ time is ask a couple questions

34:23 ↗ and i did not tell him what these

34:24 ↗ questions were in advance

34:27 ↗ the first question is

34:29 ↗ hussein why do you consider this

34:32 ↗ a special project

34:34 ↗ for issaquah

34:40 ↗ does it work yeah well

34:43 ↗ good question here

34:45 ↗ when we

34:47 ↗ take a project on

34:48 ↗ we become part of that community

34:51 ↗ i was really amazed with the natural

34:54 ↗ scenic views

34:56 ↗ the streams and the wetlands and the

34:58 ↗ buffers

34:59 ↗ i really took a personal step

35:01 ↗ to make sure that we could bring a

35:04 ↗ stronger connection

35:06 ↗ between the people

35:08 ↗ and

35:09 ↗ the stream and the buffer and the nature

35:11 ↗ this the nature the true block passage

35:14 ↗ that we're proposing will do just that

35:17 ↗ with signs along the way

35:19 ↗ educational signs

35:21 ↗ fish migration

35:22 ↗ it will show

35:24 ↗ that we are part of the community we

35:26 ↗ live in this is what we need to respect

35:29 ↗ that's what we need to cherish and what

35:31 ↗ we need to conserve

35:34 ↗ okay and my second and final question

35:37 ↗ hossein

35:39 ↗ is

35:40 ↗ can you tell me

35:42 ↗ why you were so intent on checking all

35:44 ↗ those boxes of

35:46 ↗ lead

35:48 ↗ certification

35:50 ↗ you've got

35:52 ↗ solar

35:54 ↗ you you have

35:56 ↗ made sure that there's uh a piece for

35:59 ↗ the affordable housing

36:01 ↗ talk to me about why you wanted to check

36:04 ↗ all those boxes you know

36:06 ↗ when i came to this country i'm an

36:08 ↗ immigrant muslim immigrant the way you

36:10 ↗ said it i love this country for the day

36:14 ↗ i arrived i felt i was born here

36:17 ↗ i'm an awe to many of you who are here

36:20 ↗ who given me and my family sanctuary

36:23 ↗ but i think what happened was i want my

36:26 ↗ amaze

36:27 ↗ but our way of life

36:29 ↗ throwing away things discarding things

36:32 ↗ not valuing the assets that we have or

36:35 ↗ the objects that we serve we throw it in

36:36 ↗ the trash can because it's not

36:38 ↗ economical well i don't believe in that

36:41 ↗ you ask my wife our

36:44 ↗ garage is full of garbage

36:45 ↗ stuff that i want to use one day and i

36:47 ↗ do use them and i think we need to make

36:49 ↗ a difference we don't

36:51 ↗ we cannot ravage our environment the way

36:54 ↗ we have been

36:55 ↗ we can make the solar work for us for

36:58 ↗ four months a year

37:00 ↗ in rain in seattle we can export

37:03 ↗ electricity into the grid four months a

37:05 ↗ year

37:06 ↗ it's just it's so it's just right before

37:08 ↗ us

37:09 ↗ the lead part

37:11 ↗ uh you can actually when you

37:14 ↗ turn on the bathroom fan you're

37:16 ↗ exhausting air

37:18 ↗ that is at room temperature

37:20 ↗ at

37:21 ↗ you know 75 degrees

37:24 ↗ it's so easy put heat exchanger on that

37:26 ↗ exhaust recapture the energy you're

37:28 ↗ throwing away

37:30 ↗ i mean

37:32 ↗ for me it was just i wasn't ah way so

37:34 ↗ much in this country and i really want

37:36 ↗ to make a difference this is not about

37:38 ↗ making money this is about doing the

37:41 ↗ right thing and i'm here to do the right

37:43 ↗ thing and i think we can do it together

37:45 ↗ yes we're going to have to make

37:47 ↗ sacrifices we're going to cut four trees

37:49 ↗ we're going to plant 29 or 28. yes but

37:53 ↗ what we're installing is 1200 trees a

37:56 ↗ year

37:57 ↗ so yes we're trying to make a difference

37:59 ↗ for the environment next month sir

38:02 ↗ i want to thank you very much and i want

38:04 ↗ to thank the commission for this

38:05 ↗ opportunity

38:06 ↗ thank you

38:09 ↗ our next commenter is paul glumas

38:17 ↗ i would like to defer to the next person

38:19 ↗ okay

38:21 ↗ okay

38:24 ↗ thank you next we have richard tobin

38:30 ↗ thank the commission so i met uh saying

38:33 ↗ probably about 18 years ago haven't

38:35 ↗ actually seen them in 18 years but i saw

38:37 ↗ the email

38:38 ↗ that came across um about the project

38:41 ↗ i'm also a financial advisor one of the

38:43 ↗ things i'm able to

38:44 ↗ help my clients with are

38:46 ↗ projects multi-family houses things of

38:49 ↗ this or actually none of them in the

38:51 ↗ state of washington they're out in a

38:52 ↗ different location but what's

38:54 ↗ fascinating is

38:56 ↗ i

38:57 ↗ my understanding is we have a dearth of

39:00 ↗ um inventory which they say it's not

39:02 ↗ gonna be filled until 2030 and just

39:04 ↗ talking to someone

39:06 ↗ uh gosh about two three days ago might

39:08 ↗ not be until 2035 we don't really have

39:11 ↗ enough

39:12 ↗ places for people to lease and to to

39:15 ↗ rent and

39:16 ↗ so it's actually a concern

39:19 ↗ and with interest rates going up

39:20 ↗ significantly a lot of people cannot

39:22 ↗ afford a place to be able to live and so

39:25 ↗ it seems like we don't have enough

39:26 ↗ locations here in the state of

39:28 ↗ washington so that's why i came because

39:30 ↗ i see there's a lot of um

39:33 ↗ there's a lot of uh

39:35 ↗ legislature things of this sort not only

39:38 ↗ here but throughout the state of

39:39 ↗ washington potentially on the uh

39:41 ↗ on the um

39:42 ↗ at the level of the state that's going

39:44 ↗ to make it more difficult to be building

39:46 ↗ in the state and there's a lot of reason

39:47 ↗ that

39:49 ↗ um

39:50 ↗ we're going to lose a lot of people i i

39:53 ↗ went to a again involved in

39:54 ↗ manufacturing housing for other reasons

39:56 ↗ and i'm talking to a lot of people

39:58 ↗ who are owners of properties and a lot

40:01 ↗ of them are selling and leaving the

40:02 ↗ state and if we don't do something

40:05 ↗ to

40:06 ↗ work with

40:08 ↗ the people building and owning we're

40:11 ↗ going to be in a lot of trouble in the

40:12 ↗ state and that's why i came out

40:14 ↗ when i saw that so i want to take more

40:16 ↗ time

40:21 ↗ next we have ed

40:23 ↗ kotliar

40:33 ↗ ladies and gentlemen my name is edward

40:36 ↗ quartier

40:38 ↗ and i'm

40:40 ↗ here i'm living in bellevue

40:42 ↗ in milan apartment

40:46 ↗ it is a beautiful place to live

40:49 ↗ it's good maintenance it's very clear

40:52 ↗ very clean

40:54 ↗ and we always feel support of the

40:57 ↗ management

40:58 ↗ and staff

40:59 ↗ in our park

41:01 ↗ so why i'm here right now

41:05 ↗ i know next

41:07 ↗ project

41:09 ↗ will be

41:10 ↗ the same or maybe even better

41:13 ↗ than

41:14 ↗ milan at bell

41:17 ↗ and um

41:21 ↗ this project new one

41:23 ↗ is using the energy saving programs

41:27 ↗ such as

41:29 ↗ solar

41:30 ↗ and led

41:34 ↗ certification

41:38 ↗ and

41:41 ↗ this stuff

41:43 ↗ will help

41:46 ↗ and the certification

41:49 ↗ will have to reduce the waste of energy

41:53 ↗ and reduce the

41:54 ↗ carbon

41:56 ↗ carbon footprint

42:02 ↗ as we know now

42:06 ↗ cost of housing

42:08 ↗ has increased for about 30

42:14 ↗ in the past year

42:18 ↗ and also we know everybody it's a small

42:21 ↗ supply

42:22 ↗ of the

42:24 ↗ living place

42:26 ↗ and it's a height event

42:29 ↗ also we got

42:33 ↗ drastic

42:35 ↗ increase of the

42:42 ↗ price of the houses

42:45 ↗ and

43:00 ↗ i was somewhere

43:07 ↗ here we have a small supply of housing

43:10 ↗ and bitumen

43:14 ↗ so average worker people

43:16 ↗ who are being crushed by the high price

43:22 ↗ of real estate

43:24 ↗ and inflation

43:27 ↗ cannot afford to own houses now

43:32 ↗ and they

43:33 ↗ after all they have to rent

43:37 ↗ it's what they said

43:42 ↗ milana

43:45 ↗ project four

43:49 ↗ as long as the

43:51 ↗ building code are being followed

43:55 ↗ we need this project

43:57 ↗ and other projects like this

43:59 ↗ to use pressure

44:01 ↗ on people and make living

44:06 ↗ more affordable

44:11 ↗ and dwelling find a nice villain for

44:14 ↗ people

44:16 ↗ the exterior of milana

44:18 ↗ of issaquah

44:20 ↗ has a traditional look

44:22 ↗ and very appealing interior

44:25 ↗ it is going to be a great and nice

44:28 ↗ addition

44:29 ↗ to downtown of issaquah

44:32 ↗ also it will bring

44:35 ↗ more diversity in architecture of the

44:37 ↗ city

44:41 ↗ i hope it will be not like all other

44:43 ↗ typical buildings what we have in the

44:46 ↗ in front of the east where on

44:49 ↗ i-90

44:54 ↗ so

44:55 ↗ it's all what i got

44:57 ↗ thank you very much for your time and

44:58 ↗ your attention

45:00 ↗ thank you

45:04 ↗ the next speaker is matthew patrick

45:05 ↗ thomas

45:09 ↗ hello thank you uh

45:11 ↗ i want to disagree with something you

45:13 ↗ said in your testimony mr quran

45:16 ↗ you said uh that you'd rather look at an

45:18 ↗ open field than this beautiful building

45:21 ↗ i think this building be better looking

45:22 ↗ than an open field so

45:25 ↗ uh

45:26 ↗ i've known uh jose now for about uh uh

45:28 ↗ 17 18 years i've known he's a he's an

45:31 ↗ honest man he's a sincere man uh to

45:34 ↗ speak to his character i can see tonight

45:35 ↗ it's typical jose and he sees a problem

45:38 ↗ and tries to find a solution he's a

45:40 ↗ problem solver and i know

45:42 ↗ he's uh that but just talk about how

45:43 ↗ your working relationship how you're

45:45 ↗ trying to solve problems that that's

45:46 ↗ very important as a because you're gonna

45:48 ↗ be a partner with the community at the

45:49 ↗ end of the day you're making a

45:50 ↗ partnership with the community as a

45:52 ↗ developer um i do i've learned more

45:55 ↗ tonight about this the environmental uh

45:58 ↗ the with the solar panels and all that

46:00 ↗ it sounds like this project could be an

46:02 ↗ example for uh other cities to follow

46:04 ↗ having projects at this standard within

46:06 ↗ uh with respect to the environment and

46:08 ↗ the solar system i got a question a

46:10 ↗ question for you then have you looked at

46:12 ↗ like what the job creation or jobs that

46:15 ↗ involved with building a project like

46:16 ↗ this and maybe the tax revenues aspect

46:19 ↗ of that good question you're so you guys

46:21 ↗ are surprising with

46:22 ↗ questions unannounced but yeah i know

46:24 ↗ sorry

46:25 ↗ hopefully i can find answers to these

46:27 ↗ things here

46:28 ↗ well

46:29 ↗ that's a real good question here i i

46:31 ↗ haven't worked out the numbers this was

46:33 ↗ a surprise to me but i expect the the

46:37 ↗ impact phase to be about two and a half

46:40 ↗ to

46:40 ↗ three and a half million dollars i think

46:43 ↗ earlier today there was a question that

46:44 ↗ came from valerie uh there was issue

46:47 ↗ about uh there was a question about our

46:49 ↗ schools they're getting full

46:50 ↗ uh so you know two and a half three and

46:52 ↗ a half impact fees a lot of it go to

46:54 ↗ school is a big deal in addition to that

46:57 ↗ we have the permanent fees i think

47:00 ↗ i don't know exactly what the permanent

47:02 ↗ fees would be with water cascade charges

47:05 ↗ i would give it a million bucks just

47:06 ↗ just nice even number and then on top of

47:09 ↗ that we have property we have the

47:12 ↗ the sales tax and bno tax i think we're

47:15 ↗ probably talking

47:16 ↗ give or take about another

47:18 ↗ say

47:19 ↗ uh i don't know three and a half million

47:21 ↗ dollars to add all this stuff up you're

47:23 ↗ talking close to 10 million

47:25 ↗ benefit for the community

47:28 ↗ and i think we're at the time

47:30 ↗ that uh we have to start thinking about

47:33 ↗ these issues here with the economic

47:35 ↗ recession coming down the pike there was

47:38 ↗ a question about the school well with 10

47:40 ↗ million bucks i think you said could

47:42 ↗ build another school

47:44 ↗ thank you thank you for the answer well

47:46 ↗ um i think that this commission and the

47:48 ↗ city has an opportunity to work with a

47:49 ↗ first generation iranian american

47:51 ↗ immigrants are working a great the

47:53 ↗ family stories uh

47:54 ↗ it's uh crazy how they came over here

47:56 ↗ and

47:57 ↗ but you guys are making it and you're

47:59 ↗ doing it and your pillar and the shows

48:00 ↗ by the

48:01 ↗ members in this room that showed up here

48:03 ↗ tonight to support you

48:04 ↗ speaks to your character so thank you

48:06 ↗ for the time commission thank you

48:11 ↗ the next speaker is anita roberts

48:18 ↗ good evening

48:19 ↗ my name is anita roberts i know hussein

48:22 ↗ for

48:23 ↗ actually it started with our parents our

48:26 ↗ first generation iranian moved to this

48:28 ↗ country

48:30 ↗ our parents were best friends and

48:32 ↗ i got to know hussein a bit more the

48:35 ↗ last few years

48:36 ↗ i'm in the construction business

48:38 ↗ for the last 17 years working with many

48:41 ↗ architect designers and developer

48:44 ↗ throughout the whole puget sound area

48:47 ↗ and seeing this project that hussein has

48:51 ↗ is extremely green

48:53 ↗ with the lead

48:56 ↗ certification

48:57 ↗ and the solar system it's like one of

49:00 ↗ the few buildings that i have seen that

49:03 ↗ is going to be as green as it could be

49:06 ↗ and knowing hussein

49:08 ↗ he is very humble

49:10 ↗ and he will do everything he can to meet

49:13 ↗ the quota and the

49:15 ↗ expectation from the city council and

49:17 ↗ city

49:19 ↗ requirement

49:21 ↗ so thank you so much and i would love to

49:23 ↗ see if this project get approved and

49:26 ↗ move forward

49:27 ↗ thank you

49:35 ↗ the next speaker is david

49:37 ↗ tegler

49:42 ↗ commissioners and uh

49:44 ↗ chairman

49:46 ↗ i'm a

49:48 ↗ licensed professional engineer in the

49:50 ↗ state of washington and

49:53 ↗ what i value at least in my professional

49:56 ↗ side has always been doing it right

50:01 ↗ try not to make any mistakes and making

50:04 ↗ sure you follow the process

50:07 ↗ and the thing i

50:10 ↗ i don't know this but

50:13 ↗ you guys need

50:15 ↗ 10 15 or 20 hussains not just this one

50:19 ↗ in issaquah

50:21 ↗ you need that level of development to

50:23 ↗ get the housing problem under control

50:26 ↗ but you've got him

50:28 ↗ and

50:28 ↗ the the concern i have and i've been

50:31 ↗ involved in

50:32 ↗ various certification activities where

50:34 ↗ you start with does the building

50:37 ↗ meet code or doesn't it and then there

50:39 ↗ are some discretionary issues like

50:41 ↗ setbacks and that sort of thing

50:43 ↗ that they're either

50:45 ↗ a safety or an environmental hazard risk

50:48 ↗ that can they can either be addressed or

50:51 ↗ not

50:52 ↗ but it shouldn't be some

50:55 ↗ whim

50:57 ↗ or

50:58 ↗ some

50:59 ↗ paralysis by analysis

51:01 ↗ that afflicts this project or any

51:04 ↗ project and i think

51:05 ↗ as a commission

51:07 ↗ you really need to pay attention to how

51:09 ↗ much analysis you're doing is it being

51:14 ↗ is it being prudent with his development

51:17 ↗ time and the development time to get

51:19 ↗ these sort of projects improved to

51:21 ↗ enhance your city and i'm speaking more

51:25 ↗ globally i'm from maple valley i think

51:27 ↗ there are good projects and bad projects

51:30 ↗ but

51:31 ↗ are they being executed timely one way

51:35 ↗ or the other

51:36 ↗ a developer is making a financial risk

51:39 ↗ to commit to something like this

51:41 ↗ they need either an up or down and then

51:43 ↗ the rules can't change

51:45 ↗ and that's true

51:47 ↗ as far as the building codes it's true

51:49 ↗ in manufacturing automobiles and i was

51:51 ↗ involved in the commercial aircraft side

51:54 ↗ you set the certification standard for

51:56 ↗ the aircraft and that's it

51:59 ↗ admittedly boeing cheated that's a

52:02 ↗ problem but

52:05 ↗ you have to trust in this case mr

52:07 ↗ hussein to do what he said he's got

52:11 ↗ enough personal rep representatives here

52:13 ↗ to convince you that he's probably going

52:15 ↗ to do a pretty darn good job on this

52:16 ↗ building but i would i would

52:19 ↗ admonish you

52:21 ↗ please don't let

52:23 ↗ the

52:24 ↗ tyranny really of paralysis by analysis

52:28 ↗ stop this this program or any others

52:30 ↗ that should come down the pike here we

52:32 ↗ need the housing

52:34 ↗ interest rates are climbing he's in a

52:36 ↗ horse race to get this thing built

52:38 ↗ and do it in a

52:41 ↗ competitive way

52:42 ↗ hopefully with the interest rates not

52:44 ↗ going through the room so i thank you

52:46 ↗ for your time i hope you'll consider

52:49 ↗ the technical aspects i'm raising here

52:51 ↗ of getting projects built and really

52:53 ↗ being mindful of the certification time

52:57 ↗ thank you

53:01 ↗ next is bradley corner

53:12 ↗ my name is brad corner and i first want

53:14 ↗ to thank the development commission

53:17 ↗ the city of issaquah

53:19 ↗ the planning staff

53:21 ↗ and the developer

53:24 ↗ for holding this meeting and allowing

53:26 ↗ public input

53:29 ↗ after a very careful review

53:32 ↗ of all the materials that i could find

53:34 ↗ online

53:36 ↗ as well as

53:37 ↗ interviewing the developer i'm going to

53:40 ↗ tell you right now

53:41 ↗ he did not

53:43 ↗ ask me to say what i'm going to say next

53:45 ↗ in this testimony

53:48 ↗ in my history of 45 years as an activist

53:51 ↗ in the development business in puget

53:53 ↗ sound i have spoken equally against as

53:57 ↗ well as four developments

53:59 ↗ and what i look for

54:00 ↗ is to see if they follow the rules

54:03 ↗ and are willing to work with staff to

54:05 ↗ make something that's a benefit to the

54:06 ↗ public

54:08 ↗ as well as for the proponent

54:10 ↗ project

54:12 ↗ so

54:14 ↗ hussain i believe that you should ask

54:17 ↗ the development commission to reconsider

54:20 ↗ the 25 reduction

54:23 ↗ in the buffers

54:25 ↗ and for you that are doing all the work

54:27 ↗ i've read your notes of your meetings

54:29 ↗ man you have a very very

54:33 ↗ number of opinions

54:35 ↗ on your commission

54:36 ↗ so i hope that

54:38 ↗ you're able to work through this because

54:41 ↗ i think with all of the impervious

54:43 ↗ trade-outs

54:45 ↗ it still fits in the formula to give the

54:47 ↗ 25 percent but i'm going to ask you to

54:49 ↗ take a different viewpoint on what he is

54:52 ↗ really doing to help the environment

54:54 ↗ right now the current situation

54:57 ↗ taking away the house and all the stuff

54:59 ↗ that's being polluted

55:00 ↗ but looking at the after condition you

55:02 ↗ have a new urbanism project

55:04 ↗ that is beautifully modulated against

55:06 ↗ the height limits and will fit into this

55:08 ↗ corridor

55:10 ↗ but what you have at the end is

55:12 ↗ you have a open field by schneider creek

55:16 ↗ that technically is an invitational

55:18 ↗ nuisance

55:20 ↗ where you're inviting human beings to

55:21 ↗ come invade the wetland in the stream

55:24 ↗ corridor

55:25 ↗ so in terms of the proposed trail which

55:29 ↗ is up to 15 feet in width

55:31 ↗ i believe that should be considered

55:33 ↗ heavily

55:34 ↗ in terms of its great use

55:36 ↗ in

55:37 ↗ a reduction in the buffer

55:39 ↗ because you're going to have

55:40 ↗ interpretive information and you're

55:42 ↗ providing an incentive for the public to

55:44 ↗ stay out of the wetland

55:46 ↗ out of the stream corridor and actually

55:49 ↗ learn something about it while allowing

55:51 ↗ it to restore itself as part of the

55:53 ↗ requirements in the code

55:55 ↗ so

55:56 ↗ that being said

55:59 ↗ i favor this project

56:01 ↗ and yes there's a lot of details it's a

56:03 ↗ work in process

56:05 ↗ and i recommend that all parties work

56:07 ↗ through the process with staff

56:10 ↗ and to obtain the right

56:12 ↗ fit

56:13 ↗ the best way i can say it of the site

56:15 ↗ plan

56:16 ↗ for both a new housing community

56:18 ↗ and a better preservation of the stream

56:21 ↗ corridor in comparison to the current

56:23 ↗ the status of the site i encourage the

56:26 ↗ developer hussein

56:28 ↗ and staff to work out the details that

56:30 ↗ results in no loss of units

56:34 ↗ and housing

56:37 ↗ and balanced with the proposed

56:39 ↗ enhancement and protection

56:42 ↗ of the open space wetlands and the

56:44 ↗ schneider stream corridor thank you

56:53 ↗ the next speaker is landon halverson

57:00 ↗ hi there

57:01 ↗ excuse me first i want to start by uh

57:04 ↗ saying thank you to ms porter and her

57:06 ↗ team as well as to mr karam and his team

57:09 ↗ for the presentations they gave

57:11 ↗ they were very insightful and helpful

57:13 ↗ and thank you to the commission for

57:15 ↗ taking time to be here today

57:17 ↗ to hear us

57:18 ↗ my name is landon halverson i'm a

57:20 ↗ resident of central issaquah i live

57:22 ↗ about 600 feet that way i'm a renter uh

57:25 ↗ here in downtown

57:26 ↗ and i'm here for for one reason and one

57:29 ↗ reason only

57:31 ↗ and that is because i see every day

57:33 ↗ firsthand the need for more affordable

57:36 ↗ housing affordable desirable and

57:39 ↗ eco-friendly housing in issaquah and

57:42 ↗ after extensive research on this project

57:45 ↗ i believe that the milano is aqua

57:47 ↗ apartments is what our city needs

57:50 ↗ over the past 12 months and a few others

57:53 ↗ have mentioned this

57:54 ↗ the cost of rent in issaquah has

57:56 ↗ increased by nearly 30 percent

57:59 ↗ this is a figure that will be brought

58:01 ↗ off often uh but this is not just a

58:04 ↗ figure

58:05 ↗ for me that i read it's a figure that i

58:07 ↗ live and i can tell you on behalf of

58:10 ↗ renters here in the city of issaquah we

58:12 ↗ are hurting right now

58:14 ↗ and we are hurting because there is a

58:17 ↗ lack of affordable housing in our

58:19 ↗ communities i've lived here for years

58:21 ↗ and i don't want to leave issaquah but

58:23 ↗ it's getting to the point where i may

58:25 ↗ have to uh simply because i cannot

58:28 ↗ afford to live here i work here in

58:30 ↗ downtown issaquad a small business in

58:32 ↗ downtown issaquah i live here

58:34 ↗ i love it and i don't want to have to

58:36 ↗ leave this community that's given me so

58:38 ↗ much

58:39 ↗ but it's getting to the point where me

58:41 ↗ and my neighbors are having these

58:43 ↗ conversations that we may have to

58:45 ↗ because we simply cannot afford

58:48 ↗ the rent and ultimately it comes back to

58:51 ↗ a very simple uh problem and that is a

58:54 ↗ supply and demand imbalance we need more

58:57 ↗ housing here in the city of issaquah in

58:59 ↗ order to keep up with the demand that we

59:02 ↗ face

59:03 ↗ and as a resident

59:06 ↗ i am excited to see that we have a

59:09 ↗ developer who wants to work with the

59:11 ↗ community he's coming into who wants to

59:13 ↗ make sure it's meeting environmental

59:15 ↗ standards who's making sure that we are

59:17 ↗ being included in that conversation

59:20 ↗ because a lot of developers would not do

59:21 ↗ that developers do not have to do that

59:24 ↗ they have to have meetings but they

59:25 ↗ really do not have to make an effort to

59:27 ↗ reach out to their community to the

59:28 ↗ extent that hossein has done and i

59:31 ↗ believe that we should be rewarding that

59:33 ↗ because like i said that doesn't happen

59:35 ↗ very often and when the city has the

59:37 ↗ opportunity to partner with the

59:38 ↗ developer who not only says that he's

59:41 ↗ going

59:42 ↗ to work with our community but has

59:44 ↗ proven for the past 20 years in his

59:46 ↗ other projects like others have

59:47 ↗ mentioned that he has worked with the

59:49 ↗ community he has a record of doing so

59:51 ↗ that's exciting for me as a resident and

59:53 ↗ as a person who would consider living in

59:56 ↗ a unit like

59:58 ↗ like hussein's or another around the

1:00:00 ↗ area

1:00:02 ↗ that's exciting for me because it we see

1:00:04 ↗ that

1:00:05 ↗ we have an opportunity to really have a

1:00:07 ↗ partnership and a partnership that lasts

1:00:11 ↗ so

1:00:12 ↗ ultimately there was only one other

1:00:14 ↗ thing that i really wanted to mention

1:00:15 ↗ today and it was it was mentioned by

1:00:17 ↗ somebody else but i want to mention it

1:00:18 ↗ again because i think it's so important

1:00:21 ↗ and that is that

1:00:22 ↗ to my understanding and everything i've

1:00:24 ↗ read

1:00:25 ↗ the milano issaquah apartments meets the

1:00:28 ↗ codes that were established by the

1:00:29 ↗ central isoqua plan and by other plans

1:00:32 ↗ for that reason it is that reason alone

1:00:35 ↗ it is important that this project not

1:00:38 ↗ face too many setbacks we as a city have

1:00:41 ↗ a responsibility to make it very clear

1:00:43 ↗ to developers this is what we expect of

1:00:45 ↗ you this is how you get a project

1:00:47 ↗ approved if you meet the standard you

1:00:49 ↗ meet the standard you get to build if

1:00:50 ↗ you don't meet the standard you don't

1:00:52 ↗ get to build

1:00:53 ↗ and it needs to be that simple because

1:00:56 ↗ it is the only way we can avoid

1:00:58 ↗ conflicts of interest it's the only way

1:01:00 ↗ that we can avoid uh backroom deals we

1:01:04 ↗ have a responsibility to developers to

1:01:06 ↗ make those expectations very very clear

1:01:10 ↗ and then again when they are so willing

1:01:13 ↗ to look at those expectations and say

1:01:15 ↗ not only how can we meet them but how

1:01:17 ↗ can we go above and beyond to make sure

1:01:18 ↗ that we are really serving the community

1:01:20 ↗ we're going into and and doing our due

1:01:23 ↗ diligence to ensure that we're doing the

1:01:24 ↗ work that needs to be done that is

1:01:26 ↗ exciting and that deserves to be

1:01:28 ↗ rewarded that's the kind of development

1:01:30 ↗ we want in the city of issaquah

1:01:32 ↗ development in our city at this point in

1:01:35 ↗ 2022 is inevitable it's inevitable we

1:01:38 ↗ are growing

1:01:39 ↗ and i am excited to see that we have

1:01:41 ↗ somebody here who genuinely cares about

1:01:43 ↗ our community because that cannot be

1:01:45 ↗ said about many developers thank you

1:01:50 ↗ real quickly uh we have seven more

1:01:52 ↗ individuals in the room here who have

1:01:54 ↗ signed up to speak and then we'll move

1:01:55 ↗ to the virtual attendees i see we have

1:01:57 ↗ about a half dozen virtual attendees who

1:02:00 ↗ would like to make comments tonight our

1:02:02 ↗ next uh speaker in the room here is bob

1:02:04 ↗ heglund

1:02:09 ↗ thank you commissioners thank you saying

1:02:11 ↗ and i'd like to also thank miss porter

1:02:13 ↗ for the very thoughtful email response

1:02:15 ↗ she sent me it's very complete

1:02:17 ↗ and i really appreciate that um

1:02:20 ↗ i i have uh some i've worked a little

1:02:23 ↗ bit with hussein i've known him a couple

1:02:25 ↗ of months so i don't have the the long

1:02:28 ↗ long-term relationship that a lot of

1:02:29 ↗ people do here

1:02:30 ↗ but um i think it's really important to

1:02:33 ↗ take a step back from this project a

1:02:35 ↗ little bit and look at the bigger

1:02:36 ↗ picture because that was something we

1:02:38 ↗ were invited to talk about

1:02:39 ↗ the the three things i like to talk

1:02:41 ↗ about

1:02:42 ↗ myself are

1:02:43 ↗ health

1:02:44 ↗ environment and our kids

1:02:47 ↗ and i know health doesn't really come up

1:02:49 ↗ too often when talking about housing but

1:02:51 ↗ i sit on the health equity task force

1:02:54 ↗ for united health group and i work on

1:02:55 ↗ projects involving medicaid and medicare

1:02:58 ↗ advantage recipients people who are

1:03:00 ↗ typically lower income and

1:03:02 ↗ do make the choice between house housing

1:03:04 ↗ expenses

1:03:06 ↗ health care expenses and other living

1:03:08 ↗ expenses like food

1:03:10 ↗ and the more that we drive up the price

1:03:11 ↗ of housing by having low supply the more

1:03:14 ↗ we may have make people have to make the

1:03:16 ↗ choices in other areas health in

1:03:18 ↗ particular is one that the people

1:03:19 ↗ sacrifice a lot in from what we see

1:03:22 ↗ and that really concerns me because when

1:03:24 ↗ we're looking right now we heard earlier

1:03:26 ↗ the 250 000 units the state of

1:03:29 ↗ washington shortage i think it's

1:03:30 ↗ probably a little bit more than that

1:03:31 ↗ even just from what i've seen but the

1:03:33 ↗ fact is though that

1:03:34 ↗ that that is really driving

1:03:36 ↗ people to have to make sacrifices and by

1:03:39 ↗ adding more units that are built

1:03:41 ↗ responsibly to code

1:03:44 ↗ me and environmental requirements and

1:03:46 ↗ fit into the community really does

1:03:48 ↗ improve the quality of life for people

1:03:49 ↗ in essaquah and elsewhere in the state i

1:03:51 ↗ live in granite falls i live

1:03:53 ↗ live you know hour and a half drive from

1:03:55 ↗ here but i thought it was important to

1:03:57 ↗ come and talk about this because it it's

1:03:59 ↗ something that we're seeing our own

1:04:00 ↗ community

1:04:01 ↗ the the choices that people having to

1:04:03 ↗ make because the how few

1:04:05 ↗ open housing units are available for

1:04:07 ↗ people when it comes to the um the issue

1:04:09 ↗ of environment

1:04:11 ↗ i'm a very strong environmentalist i

1:04:13 ↗ really believe that we need to protect

1:04:14 ↗ the environment we live in we all have

1:04:15 ↗ to live in it it's not something that

1:04:17 ↗ that we can you know trash and then kind

1:04:20 ↗ of come back and fix later you've seen

1:04:21 ↗ how expensive it is to undo

1:04:23 ↗ environmental damage and this project in

1:04:26 ↗ particular it's interesting i drove out

1:04:27 ↗ there and took a look and took some

1:04:28 ↗ pictures even

1:04:29 ↗ undoing the environmental damage of

1:04:31 ↗ having

1:04:32 ↗ uh you know a house with a septic tank

1:04:34 ↗ or next to a salmon stream i think is

1:04:36 ↗ interesting i i appreciate that that

1:04:38 ↗ people are doing that whether it's

1:04:40 ↗ hussein or any other builder that's

1:04:41 ↗ doing that or the city itself but i know

1:04:43 ↗ how expensive that is it's better to

1:04:45 ↗ make those choices up front now or

1:04:46 ↗ frankly a good developer who's willing

1:04:48 ↗ to pay for it to do it than to have to

1:04:49 ↗ push that down the road to the future

1:04:51 ↗ when it's going to cost even more and

1:04:53 ↗ there's going to be damage done in the

1:04:54 ↗ meantime and

1:04:56 ↗ about our kids really comes down to is

1:04:58 ↗ we're going to drive our kids out of the

1:05:00 ↗ communities the community i live in

1:05:02 ↗ we my my son who's 22 years old

1:05:06 ↗ can't really find a place to live he has

1:05:08 ↗ to live in a in a kind of a one

1:05:10 ↗ bedroom apartment that's really not

1:05:13 ↗ much of an apartment at all and he was

1:05:15 ↗ lucky to get that most of people i know

1:05:17 ↗ that are young people in granite falls

1:05:18 ↗ and this is why i'm sure is going to

1:05:20 ↗ face some of the same problems end up

1:05:21 ↗ having to leave the communities they're

1:05:23 ↗ tied to because they just can't afford

1:05:24 ↗ to live there because there just aren't

1:05:26 ↗ enough

1:05:27 ↗ housing units the laws of supply and

1:05:29 ↗ demand do apply um sometimes we don't

1:05:31 ↗ like it but they do the more supply

1:05:33 ↗ there is the the lower the cost because

1:05:36 ↗ there's less money that needs to chase

1:05:38 ↗ after it so just so i'd encourage you to

1:05:40 ↗ consider those aspects again the the the

1:05:42 ↗ health aspect that really it does it

1:05:44 ↗ does make your community healthier

1:05:46 ↗ because people have more money to spend

1:05:47 ↗ on other things like health care like

1:05:49 ↗ better food better choices and the

1:05:52 ↗ environmental issues i understand that

1:05:54 ↗ and this is a question actually for

1:05:55 ↗ saying

1:05:56 ↗ how what's the percentage of of electric

1:05:58 ↗ vehicle charging

1:05:59 ↗ um parking spots are you planning to

1:06:01 ↗ build it it looked like some crazy

1:06:02 ↗ number what the the requirement in the

1:06:04 ↗ code is 10 percent we're actually doing

1:06:08 ↗ 30

1:06:09 ↗ of the uh park installs or accessible ev

1:06:13 ↗ charging stations that's the way the

1:06:15 ↗ future i want to get ahead of it so well

1:06:18 ↗ yeah thank you and that's something i

1:06:20 ↗ saw that i thought this is kind of crazy

1:06:23 ↗ because that's a lot of electric vehicle

1:06:25 ↗ charging stations but then look at how

1:06:26 ↗ many electric vehicles we're seeing on

1:06:27 ↗ the road and we're trying to encourage

1:06:29 ↗ more of them so i think that this is an

1:06:30 ↗ example of really forward thinking you

1:06:32 ↗ know whether you're meant to or not i

1:06:33 ↗ think you're solving a problem for the

1:06:35 ↗ future and i think that's something that

1:06:36 ↗ we need to consider again about our kids

1:06:38 ↗ um the you know that's environmental

1:06:39 ↗ consideration the kids again is that

1:06:41 ↗ that we need to really think about what

1:06:43 ↗ we're leaving them we're at risk of

1:06:44 ↗ leaving the world worse off than we

1:06:47 ↗ found it i'm i'm 56 years old that

1:06:49 ↗ concerns me a lot and something that i

1:06:51 ↗ really think that things like like this

1:06:52 ↗ project and others around it that you're

1:06:54 ↗ going to see in the community that are

1:06:55 ↗ either coming up down the line now or

1:06:57 ↗ coming soon are going to be very much

1:06:58 ↗ like that it's a choice really we have

1:07:00 ↗ to make are we serving the our future

1:07:02 ↗ generations are we not i know you have

1:07:04 ↗ tough decisions to make i really thank

1:07:05 ↗ you for your time

1:07:10 ↗ the next speaker is dtos

1:07:18 ↗ hello

1:07:20 ↗ i didn't realize i signed up to speak

1:07:22 ↗ when i signed when i signed in but i'll

1:07:26 ↗ i'll be repeating what the other people

1:07:28 ↗ have already stated um and two points

1:07:31 ↗ one is i think that we should approve

1:07:34 ↗ hussein's project just like any other

1:07:36 ↗ project one is that the rules are clear

1:07:40 ↗ that the rules are followed and in this

1:07:42 ↗ case from what i've heard not only are

1:07:44 ↗ the rules being followed it's they're

1:07:46 ↗ going beyond it i mean to improve on

1:07:48 ↗ things so i think

1:07:50 ↗ that should be a

1:07:52 ↗ um

1:07:54 ↗ a plus for this for this project

1:07:56 ↗ and then secondly

1:07:58 ↗ many people have already spoken about

1:08:00 ↗ the the dearth of supply and i just be

1:08:04 ↗ repeating the same thing i'm um

1:08:07 ↗ just anecdotally

1:08:09 ↗ i am a landlord in seattle

1:08:12 ↗ and

1:08:13 ↗ just a few months ago we opened up

1:08:15 ↗ applications for one of our units

1:08:18 ↗ and we got like two dozen applications

1:08:21 ↗ for one unit and that's not happened

1:08:24 ↗ before

1:08:25 ↗ even a year ago

1:08:26 ↗ that's how much demand there is for

1:08:29 ↗ housing

1:08:30 ↗ and and i think it's another point for

1:08:34 ↗ approving this project to to add to the

1:08:37 ↗ needed supply in the market

1:08:39 ↗ that's all i have to say thank you

1:08:44 ↗ ken maninski

1:08:51 ↗ uh thank you to the commission for uh

1:08:53 ↗ listening to all the public comment

1:08:55 ↗ i've uh only known hussein for probably

1:08:58 ↗ a few months um i've probably learned

1:09:00 ↗ more about development than uh

1:09:03 ↗ than i ever thought i would

1:09:05 ↗ hussein listening to you speak i

1:09:07 ↗ actually have a couple of questions one

1:09:08 ↗ is you said you've been involved in this

1:09:10 ↗ particular project for three years

1:09:13 ↗ what what has all that time been been

1:09:16 ↗ spent on just kind of in a nutshell

1:09:18 ↗ well uh a good question here uh

1:09:21 ↗ the covet really hurt kobe really put us

1:09:24 ↗ behind uh whether it was you know it's

1:09:27 ↗ just people were not working at the rate

1:09:30 ↗ that was expected

1:09:32 ↗ uh it's a difficult project it's there's

1:09:35 ↗ a lot of challenges it's a constrained

1:09:37 ↗ side

1:09:38 ↗ so that made it

1:09:40 ↗ longer and you know i want to be honest

1:09:43 ↗ we made some mistakes you know my

1:09:44 ↗ consultant made some mistakes uh they

1:09:47 ↗ shouldn't have but that's okay

1:09:49 ↗ we're here to fix everything and

1:09:51 ↗ anything that we need to do to meet code

1:09:54 ↗ we will do and up to this moment i'm

1:09:56 ↗ standing in front of you

1:09:58 ↗ we fixed everything that we know of so

1:10:01 ↗ those things

1:10:02 ↗ put us behind a little bit i but i'm

1:10:05 ↗ ready to run forward and get this thing

1:10:07 ↗ done

1:10:09 ↗ and if you get the go-ahead the permits

1:10:11 ↗ that they discussed earlier how long is

1:10:14 ↗ it going to take before the building is

1:10:15 ↗ ready to be occupied by

1:10:18 ↗ by tenants you know

1:10:19 ↗ the the city is changing is called

1:10:23 ↗ land use code is changing

1:10:25 ↗ as i understand it and the staff could

1:10:27 ↗ correct me from right wrong i need to

1:10:30 ↗ turn in for my building permit before

1:10:32 ↗ the year's end or my vesting and the

1:10:36 ↗ current land use code would expire

1:10:39 ↗ so it's a little scary to say the least

1:10:42 ↗ and usually this doesn't happen to me

1:10:44 ↗ term that is happening here but that's

1:10:46 ↗ okay

1:10:47 ↗ i i think we're there when the very

1:10:49 ↗ final stages i i welcome the staff and

1:10:52 ↗ my consultants working together so we

1:10:54 ↗ get this thing done we expect to turn in

1:10:57 ↗ for the building permit uh in the next

1:10:59 ↗ usually two months maybe three at most

1:11:02 ↗ turn that and get vested uh hopefully

1:11:05 ↗ we'll have our

1:11:06 ↗ building permit

1:11:08 ↗ issued

1:11:09 ↗ you know in spring of 23

1:11:12 ↗ and we want to be able to start right

1:11:14 ↗ away

1:11:15 ↗ there's a risk i'm against time

1:11:18 ↗ i don't know what's going to happen are

1:11:19 ↗ we going to have world war iii coming

1:11:21 ↗ down the pike

1:11:22 ↗ or

1:11:23 ↗ what's going to happen to interest rates

1:11:24 ↗ so what is it race against time

1:11:27 ↗ please help me to get there

1:11:30 ↗ thanks

1:11:30 ↗ i i don't want to run over all the

1:11:32 ↗ supply and demand and balances that have

1:11:34 ↗ been brought up before i i'm also from

1:11:36 ↗ maple valley

1:11:38 ↗ i take more of a regional look when we

1:11:40 ↗ look at a project like this my my

1:11:42 ↗ concern is is that you know you have a

1:11:45 ↗ local a small businessman

1:11:47 ↗ you know a developer who's trying to do

1:11:49 ↗ the right thing who's kind of really

1:11:51 ↗ thought of everything in

1:11:53 ↗ light of the current environmental

1:11:54 ↗ standards and low-income housing

1:11:57 ↗ i think my concern is is that you know

1:11:59 ↗ if if we don't see this project move

1:12:01 ↗ forward

1:12:02 ↗ and get done to the benefit of the

1:12:04 ↗ community here in issaquah

1:12:06 ↗ you know what what chance are other

1:12:08 ↗ developers going to step forward in

1:12:09 ↗ communities like maple valley and north

1:12:12 ↗ bend and other places on the east side

1:12:14 ↗ as we see

1:12:15 ↗ more people desiring to live here we see

1:12:18 ↗ more companies coming out to this area

1:12:20 ↗ and more people that you know are going

1:12:22 ↗ to be working from home in units like

1:12:25 ↗ hussein's trying to construct here

1:12:28 ↗ so i would implore the commission to

1:12:32 ↗ look very seriously at his proposal

1:12:34 ↗ he seems to be a worthy partner willing

1:12:37 ↗ to cooperate as i know he is

1:12:39 ↗ he's lucky he has local folks like you

1:12:42 ↗ here in the community to work with

1:12:45 ↗ like mr teegler i'm also involved in the

1:12:47 ↗ aviation industry and i'm sure you're

1:12:48 ↗ probably a lot better to deal with than

1:12:50 ↗ the faa

1:12:51 ↗ so

1:12:52 ↗ so with that being said

1:12:54 ↗ i hope this project will move forward i

1:12:56 ↗ support it i think we need to figure out

1:12:59 ↗ a way to not only

1:13:01 ↗ balance the constraints of land use

1:13:04 ↗ as well as all of the environmental

1:13:06 ↗ regulations and the balance just all of

1:13:09 ↗ the interests that go into building

1:13:10 ↗ anything today

1:13:12 ↗ and balance that against the benefit to

1:13:14 ↗ the community

1:13:15 ↗ and and the severe need for housing

1:13:18 ↗ supply in order to bring the cost down i

1:13:20 ↗ have two young daughters that i'm

1:13:21 ↗ raising and

1:13:22 ↗ and and like landon mentioned earlier i

1:13:25 ↗ mean i think as as a parent i have a big

1:13:27 ↗ concern about what their future is going

1:13:29 ↗ to look like and that you know like all

1:13:31 ↗ of us when we turned 18 or got out of

1:13:33 ↗ college and we got our first place i

1:13:35 ↗ mean that's a that's a momentous

1:13:38 ↗ life event and responsibility to take on

1:13:40 ↗ so i hope you will contribute to future

1:13:42 ↗ generations uh in seeing fit to move

1:13:44 ↗ this for this project forward and i

1:13:46 ↗ thank you for your time

1:13:49 ↗ the next the next speaker is beth

1:13:51 ↗ darrenchang

1:13:58 ↗ hello my name is beth durantsyang and i

1:14:01 ↗ just want to encourage

1:14:03 ↗ you i'm just impressed with the level of

1:14:06 ↗ work that's been put into this project

1:14:08 ↗ and

1:14:10 ↗ house not only meeting code but

1:14:12 ↗ exceeding code and with all the we've

1:14:15 ↗ many speakers have already talked about

1:14:17 ↗ the housing needs

1:14:19 ↗ in the community and the whole area

1:14:21 ↗ and i think we need to

1:14:25 ↗ reward developers who meet code and

1:14:27 ↗ exceed code

1:14:29 ↗ by quickly

1:14:30 ↗ approving their permits

1:14:33 ↗ in in order to provide the housing and

1:14:35 ↗ and also reward developers who who work

1:14:38 ↗ to provide good housing for the

1:14:40 ↗ community thank you

1:14:46 ↗ next is

1:14:47 ↗ valerie golobaroto

1:14:58 ↗ good evening dear commission

1:15:00 ↗ my name is valerie globroyko i am

1:15:02 ↗ immigrant from ukraine

1:15:04 ↗ one of over 70 000 people that

1:15:07 ↗ immigrated to this wonderful country in

1:15:09 ↗ this beautiful state

1:15:11 ↗ and as you know the state is accepting

1:15:13 ↗ many many more immigrants from ukraine

1:15:17 ↗ refugees from ukraine

1:15:19 ↗ i know many that work i know ukrainians

1:15:22 ↗ at work for mr karam

1:15:24 ↗ i know of ukrainians that

1:15:27 ↗ lived at his residence at his at his

1:15:30 ↗ apartment buildings

1:15:32 ↗ and everybody speak spoke very highly

1:15:34 ↗ and speaks very highly of him of his

1:15:36 ↗ integrity of his honesty

1:15:39 ↗ of his hard work and all the other words

1:15:41 ↗ that were told before

1:15:44 ↗ me by

1:15:45 ↗ paul by matthew and other people

1:15:49 ↗ he came to this country as a refugee as

1:15:53 ↗ immigrant with practically nothing just

1:15:56 ↗ two suitcases

1:15:58 ↗ so am i

1:15:59 ↗ and i'm very inspired by

1:16:02 ↗ what he by his hard work and his

1:16:06 ↗ integrity

1:16:07 ↗ achieved in this country and this was

1:16:10 ↗ possible because of

1:16:14 ↗ loss and order

1:16:16 ↗ and support that we

1:16:19 ↗ receive

1:16:20 ↗ from governments and party and

1:16:22 ↗ municipalities

1:16:25 ↗ i'm also a father of four children

1:16:27 ↗ expecting number five in couple weeks

1:16:30 ↗ and this is country not just of myself

1:16:32 ↗ but country of my children

1:16:34 ↗ and i want to have this country in a

1:16:38 ↗ better position after

1:16:40 ↗ [Music]

1:16:41 ↗ for my children and i believe what

1:16:44 ↗ hassan karam is proposing to do

1:16:47 ↗ with this piece of property

1:16:49 ↗ will improve it

1:16:51 ↗ and

1:16:52 ↗ our children will be happy to see

1:16:57 ↗ environmentally clean place that will

1:17:00 ↗ not be polluting rivers with a river

1:17:03 ↗ with

1:17:06 ↗ diesel or other possible fuels and with

1:17:13 ↗ with things that are in

1:17:17 ↗ were left in

1:17:19 ↗ in tanks there

1:17:20 ↗ so i

1:17:22 ↗ i'm here

1:17:24 ↗ to say

1:17:26 ↗ to encourage you to

1:17:28 ↗ support

1:17:29 ↗ codes and

1:17:30 ↗ and led mr hussain kram to build

1:17:34 ↗ this apartment building that will

1:17:37 ↗ many people including i believe

1:17:39 ↗ ukrainians enjoy and we will be grateful

1:17:42 ↗ to mr kram and all of you for supporting

1:17:46 ↗ it thank you

1:17:50 ↗ next is bruno kelpsis

1:17:57 ↗ good evening bruno kelpsis from

1:17:58 ↗ so-called me

1:18:00 ↗ thank you to the commission for giving

1:18:01 ↗ me the opportunity to make comments to

1:18:03 ↗ the staff and to the team

1:18:06 ↗ i'm from sokomi and the reason i'm here

1:18:08 ↗ really is regarding the cost of housing

1:18:11 ↗ i do volunteer work with three different

1:18:13 ↗ organizations and several others they

1:18:15 ↗ all have one thing in common the cost of

1:18:18 ↗ housing

1:18:19 ↗ i do volunteer work at echo glen

1:18:21 ↗ juvenile detention center which is right

1:18:23 ↗ up the street which happens also have

1:18:25 ↗ the issaquah school district

1:18:28 ↗ within the echo glenn area even though

1:18:31 ↗ it's in so-called me it comes under

1:18:32 ↗ issaquah school district and those are

1:18:34 ↗ for juveniles who are put under

1:18:36 ↗ detention

1:18:37 ↗ and who are looking for a sense of

1:18:38 ↗ assistance and i volunteer there i

1:18:40 ↗ volunteer also

1:18:42 ↗ at the genesis project in seatac which

1:18:44 ↗ gets women out of trafficking and

1:18:46 ↗ prostitution

1:18:48 ↗ and i also work with the knights of

1:18:49 ↗ columbus who's been also helping out

1:18:51 ↗ with those who are in need in the

1:18:52 ↗ soquami valley one thing in common with

1:18:55 ↗ all of them is cost of housing when i

1:18:57 ↗ was working with the genesis project and

1:18:59 ↗ working with one of directors she asked

1:19:01 ↗ me she goes you know why women get into

1:19:03 ↗ that lifestyle of prostitution and they

1:19:04 ↗ get into trafficking and i thought it

1:19:06 ↗ would be abuse domestic abuse violence

1:19:09 ↗ uh something wrong with the family or

1:19:11 ↗ mental health or maybe drugs she goes no

1:19:13 ↗ wrong wrong wrong

1:19:15 ↗ the cost of housing

1:19:17 ↗ and it shows you the impact on people's

1:19:19 ↗ lives

1:19:20 ↗ what's even more concerning is those

1:19:22 ↗ women i work with at the genesis project

1:19:24 ↗ they have been at echo glenn

1:19:26 ↗ there's a revolving door of those people

1:19:28 ↗ who are youth at elko glen they now wind

1:19:31 ↗ up somewhere else unfortunately and due

1:19:34 ↗ to the cost of housing i was working

1:19:36 ↗ with one gentleman and his family with

1:19:39 ↗ the knights of columbus we were

1:19:40 ↗ assisting this gentleman

1:19:42 ↗ he came from out of state looking for

1:19:44 ↗ assistance

1:19:45 ↗ and the first thing we had to say to him

1:19:47 ↗ had a pretty much impart on him is

1:19:49 ↗ you're probably in the wrong part of the

1:19:50 ↗ state the cost of housing it's no

1:19:52 ↗ cheaper here than anywhere else if

1:19:53 ↗ anything is pretty pricey

1:19:55 ↗ so the cost of housing is a big issue

1:19:58 ↗ in this area and as you see it really

1:19:59 ↗ impacts people of all lives

1:20:02 ↗ and you know when i do volunteer work i

1:20:04 ↗ see this theme constantly taking place

1:20:07 ↗ even in our own area would be so-called

1:20:09 ↗ me or within issaquah and as you heard

1:20:11 ↗ this is definitely regional in terms of

1:20:13 ↗ an issue

1:20:15 ↗ my appeal to the commission is to please

1:20:17 ↗ consider the proposal that we've been

1:20:19 ↗ provided to you by mr crom and his team

1:20:21 ↗ it provides the standards and codes

1:20:24 ↗ quality of life

1:20:26 ↗ standards as well for the community and

1:20:28 ↗ it's been done in good faith

1:20:31 ↗ i also have to say that i've been a

1:20:33 ↗ former roofer

1:20:34 ↗ i know what it's like to grow up in a

1:20:36 ↗ family-owned business having your father

1:20:38 ↗ be the owner and working on the

1:20:40 ↗ construction sites as a kid so i

1:20:42 ↗ appreciate the efforts being done by mr

1:20:44 ↗ karam and his team and his family

1:20:46 ↗ as a former roofer who was trained as a

1:20:49 ↗ car caring union journeyman roofer i

1:20:52 ↗ understand standards and you better meet

1:20:54 ↗ the specs or you're up on the roof

1:20:55 ↗ correcting them so i definitely vouch

1:20:58 ↗ for the workmanship by mr karam and his

1:21:02 ↗ team

1:21:02 ↗ thank you so much

1:21:07 ↗ michelle darnell

1:21:13 ↗ thank you so much

1:21:15 ↗ for letting us have this opportunity to

1:21:16 ↗ support

1:21:17 ↗ this project

1:21:20 ↗ you all have a very difficult job

1:21:24 ↗ i think we all are aware

1:21:26 ↗ that our state is facing a significant

1:21:29 ↗ housing crisis

1:21:31 ↗ but something i don't think has been

1:21:32 ↗ mentioned tonight is there's also a

1:21:35 ↗ tension in the air

1:21:37 ↗ the tension is between our care and

1:21:38 ↗ concern for the environment

1:21:40 ↗ and our caring concern for human life

1:21:43 ↗ and that's the tension and that's the

1:21:45 ↗ difficult thing

1:21:46 ↗ that you guys have to manage

1:21:49 ↗ and navigate through so my hat's off to

1:21:51 ↗ you my hats off to you for the um

1:21:54 ↗ allowing us this opportunity to speak

1:21:56 ↗ and support this project

1:22:00 ↗ i'm here to support hussein because i

1:22:02 ↗ find him to be

1:22:04 ↗ very thoughtful

1:22:05 ↗ he's courageous

1:22:07 ↗ he's compassionate

1:22:09 ↗ he cares immensely for this community

1:22:12 ↗ and i think you folks can follow that

1:22:14 ↗ example

1:22:16 ↗ and as you face these difficult

1:22:18 ↗ decisions about this project

1:22:21 ↗ i'm here not only to support him but i'm

1:22:24 ↗ also here on kind of a fact-finding

1:22:26 ↗ mission

1:22:27 ↗ um i became concerned about housing many

1:22:30 ↗ years ago back during the depression or

1:22:32 ↗ not the depression the recession um back

1:22:35 ↗ in 2000 about 2011. i saw this problem

1:22:38 ↗ starting to develop

1:22:41 ↗ and what i've heard over and over again

1:22:44 ↗ is that we have a supply and demand

1:22:46 ↗ problem well what's causing the supply

1:22:48 ↗ and demand problem well the cost of

1:22:50 ↗ building and the lack of affordable

1:22:52 ↗ buildable land

1:22:53 ↗ i'm hearing this over and over

1:22:56 ↗ from

1:22:56 ↗ developers people in the construction

1:22:58 ↗ community it's a significant problem

1:23:02 ↗ but i'm also hearing that the process

1:23:05 ↗ itself

1:23:06 ↗ the permitting process

1:23:09 ↗ and the regulatory environment

1:23:12 ↗ is

1:23:13 ↗ creating

1:23:15 ↗ barriers to meeting those

1:23:18 ↗ supply needs

1:23:19 ↗ so i'm kind of on a fact-finding mission

1:23:21 ↗ because i hear these things and um

1:23:25 ↗ i'm not in construction myself

1:23:27 ↗ so i wanted to um come in and hear and

1:23:31 ↗ ask you a couple of questions just about

1:23:33 ↗ this whole process

1:23:36 ↗ um

1:23:37 ↗ specifically

1:23:39 ↗ i heard somebody say well how long has

1:23:41 ↗ this been going on but

1:23:43 ↗ what was the date that you started this

1:23:45 ↗ whole process can you remember july 2019

1:23:51 ↗ july 2019

1:23:54 ↗ and

1:23:55 ↗ could you estimate and i'm sorry to put

1:23:57 ↗ you on the spot here but could you

1:23:58 ↗ estimate in terms of the cost of the

1:24:01 ↗ project what you speculate the increase

1:24:03 ↗ in the cost might be

1:24:05 ↗ just percentage

1:24:07 ↗ well just the

1:24:10 ↗ construction cost increase has been i'd

1:24:12 ↗ say a good 30 percent since then

1:24:16 ↗ 40 maybe significant increase

1:24:19 ↗ uh consulting fees they keep sending me

1:24:22 ↗ bills all the time

1:24:24 ↗ sorry you know i i keep paying but it's

1:24:27 ↗ just there's no end to that and it it's

1:24:30 ↗ uh it really hurts i i i was i'd never

1:24:34 ↗ even heard it a a cash a pile i came

1:24:37 ↗ here with an empty suitcase i had to

1:24:39 ↗ earn every dollar and i did not make my

1:24:42 ↗ money in the stock market i i i made my

1:24:45 ↗ money break at a brick at a time uh net

1:24:48 ↗ don't even have one dollar in stock so i

1:24:51 ↗ work for every single dollar that i've

1:24:52 ↗ earned and it's hard to just spend it

1:24:54 ↗ and let it walk away

1:24:56 ↗ when you don't know just for the process

1:25:00 ↗ well i didn't mention persistence in my

1:25:03 ↗ you are persistent to still be at this

1:25:05 ↗ and i appreciate your attitude any

1:25:08 ↗ conversation i've had with you you've

1:25:10 ↗ been humble about the process and

1:25:13 ↗ so i appreciate that i have another

1:25:15 ↗ question though that goes back to costs

1:25:17 ↗ how do you think that translates in

1:25:19 ↗ terms of the cost to the end user

1:25:22 ↗ tenants

1:25:24 ↗ you know uh there's this there's always

1:25:27 ↗ a it can misconception that the

1:25:30 ↗ developer is gonna pay the cost that's

1:25:33 ↗ not true we pass the cost to the res to

1:25:36 ↗ the residents it's very unfortunate but

1:25:39 ↗ that's how it works

1:25:41 ↗ with exception of the affordable units

1:25:43 ↗ which i hope as i can have as many as i

1:25:46 ↗ can to help the public

1:25:50 ↗ but the rest of the market units are

1:25:51 ↗ passed to the public and turns my heart

1:25:54 ↗ apart to see people paying these rents

1:25:57 ↗ it's it's i i found it

1:26:00 ↗ i find it really insulting to human

1:26:02 ↗ dignity sorry to say this we have people

1:26:05 ↗ in my properties

1:26:07 ↗ i can't raise the rent on them i just

1:26:09 ↗ can't i i just felt that it's it's it's

1:26:12 ↗ unconceivable to put these people to

1:26:15 ↗ this kind of torture

1:26:17 ↗ so

1:26:18 ↗ i i just i just felt that uh we really

1:26:21 ↗ need to address the human factor

1:26:24 ↗ into this thing here

1:26:25 ↗ people are hurting i see it every day

1:26:28 ↗ some people can't eat

1:26:30 ↗ to pay the landlord that's wrong we are

1:26:33 ↗ part of the communities

1:26:35 ↗ we're not like the fee developers that

1:26:37 ↗ they build and sell and get out we will

1:26:40 ↗ never sell you always will see me i hope

1:26:42 ↗ you like me because i would be i would

1:26:45 ↗ be here in front of you

1:26:47 ↗ because i'm part of this community

1:26:50 ↗ i want to be part of issaquah and i hate

1:26:54 ↗ to see people of issaquah being heard i

1:26:57 ↗ want to help as much as i can

1:27:00 ↗ okay well thank you for your time and

1:27:02 ↗ where there is a will there is a way be

1:27:05 ↗ courageous thank you

1:27:09 ↗ now we're moving to our virtual

1:27:11 ↗ members of the public who'd like to make

1:27:13 ↗ comments i'm going to move the first

1:27:18 ↗ uh those are all

1:27:20 ↗ the

1:27:22 ↗ these folks have had their hand raised

1:27:23 ↗ so so we'll move we'll move to those who

1:27:25 ↗ have indicated a desire to speak and

1:27:27 ↗ then we can go back out to anyone else

1:27:30 ↗ virtually or in the room who'd like to

1:27:31 ↗ make comments

1:27:33 ↗ so

1:27:34 ↗ carlos

1:27:36 ↗ tapang

1:27:37 ↗ susan neville and tim kimball you've

1:27:39 ↗ just been moved up as panelists

1:27:42 ↗ you should have the option to unmute or

1:27:44 ↗ turn your video on uh first

1:27:47 ↗ is carlos topang carlos your hand has

1:27:50 ↗ been raised for some time would you like

1:27:51 ↗ to make comments

1:28:02 ↗ i'm sorry i am not in a position to make

1:28:05 ↗ a comment right now

1:28:06 ↗ um

1:28:08 ↗ i'll have to move to a quiet room thank

1:28:10 ↗ you

1:28:12 ↗ okay we'll uh call on you a little bit

1:28:14 ↗ later so next we have susan neville

1:28:22 ↗ hi can you hear me

1:28:23 ↗ yes

1:28:25 ↗ okay just a moment please i'm starting

1:28:28 ↗ my video

1:28:30 ↗ it's good to see everybody

1:28:33 ↗ excuse me thank you um everyone for

1:28:36 ↗ being in attendance

1:28:39 ↗ i'm a community member

1:28:40 ↗ i live right across from the proposed

1:28:42 ↗ development

1:28:44 ↗ and i really appreciated all of the

1:28:47 ↗ information previously given from the

1:28:50 ↗ people and i'm very glad that

1:28:53 ↗ mr karem has a willingness to work with

1:28:56 ↗ the community and make the best

1:28:58 ↗ development

1:28:59 ↗ possible

1:29:01 ↗ and bring i agree bring more

1:29:04 ↗ housing to the area

1:29:07 ↗ especially um

1:29:10 ↗ this type because i think we're missing

1:29:12 ↗ a diversity it is for the central

1:29:14 ↗ issaquah plan i'm in agreement

1:29:17 ↗ um

1:29:18 ↗ i'm not sure how to begin because

1:29:22 ↗ i have my concerns listed to the

1:29:23 ↗ proposal that was submitted online

1:29:27 ↗ and also to the staff reports so

1:29:30 ↗ i guess i'm going to ask questions and

1:29:31 ↗ go through them i know some of them were

1:29:33 ↗ highlighted by mr karam earlier

1:29:36 ↗ um

1:29:37 ↗ uh i will just start at the beginning

1:29:39 ↗ and move through it so

1:29:41 ↗ one of the first things i noticed that

1:29:43 ↗ the conflict between the

1:29:46 ↗ um

1:29:46 ↗ the actual design

1:29:49 ↗ and our isquad comprehensive plan it

1:29:52 ↗ didn't seem to be a characteristic

1:29:54 ↗ to the neighborhood character which is

1:29:56 ↗ one of the main points of that plan when

1:29:59 ↗ building a development

1:30:02 ↗ i don't know if you're all familiar with

1:30:03 ↗ the neighborhood

1:30:05 ↗ along newport way between 54th and sr

1:30:08 ↗ 900 there's

1:30:10 ↗ suburban

1:30:12 ↗ homes

1:30:13 ↗ town homes condominiums

1:30:15 ↗ apartments

1:30:18 ↗ but they're not

1:30:20 ↗ with the density that's being proposed

1:30:22 ↗ tonight of 104 and i'm just using the

1:30:25 ↗ data

1:30:26 ↗ that it now shows

1:30:29 ↗ so that was one of my main concerns

1:30:31 ↗ of fitting in with the character of the

1:30:33 ↗ current and the fact that it did butt

1:30:36 ↗ against up against the sidewalk

1:30:38 ↗ pedestrian sidewalk that will someday

1:30:40 ↗ house the mountain to ground

1:30:42 ↗ mountain to sound greenway

1:30:45 ↗ um

1:30:46 ↗ passageway through this area

1:30:48 ↗ on the other side of the road

1:30:50 ↗ as you know is cougar mountain

1:30:52 ↗ and very

1:30:53 ↗ tree-filled

1:30:55 ↗ residential area

1:30:57 ↗ so as i go through these lists i do want

1:30:59 ↗ you to know that i am in favor of

1:31:01 ↗ development on the central issaquah plan

1:31:04 ↗ area

1:31:05 ↗ but again it has to fit in our

1:31:07 ↗ neighborhood character

1:31:08 ↗ um

1:31:12 ↗ the replacement of trees and vegetation

1:31:15 ↗ to be filled by the five to seven

1:31:17 ↗ stories

1:31:19 ↗ um

1:31:20 ↗ is also

1:31:22 ↗ not conducive to the area as you if you

1:31:24 ↗ were to drive down the street it would

1:31:26 ↗ really stand out

1:31:27 ↗ um

1:31:29 ↗ and also the developer is using the

1:31:31 ↗ density plan

1:31:33 ↗ uh because the current proposal exceeds

1:31:35 ↗ the floor plan by 40 000 square feet

1:31:40 ↗ i'm not sure we need to have clarity

1:31:42 ↗ before signing off on this dollar amount

1:31:45 ↗ contribution

1:31:46 ↗ to affordable units we all spoke to

1:31:49 ↗ affordable units but reducing

1:31:51 ↗ the current amount by 10 to 15 percent

1:31:54 ↗ does not allow that middle class to come

1:31:56 ↗ in

1:31:57 ↗ so i don't know if he can speak to

1:32:00 ↗ what he feels that percentage would be

1:32:02 ↗ or amount

1:32:04 ↗ but somehow it has to be included

1:32:07 ↗ and um

1:32:09 ↗ i have to put my glasses on to read the

1:32:10 ↗ rest of this

1:32:12 ↗ thank you sorry

1:32:19 ↗ one issue that was

1:32:21 ↗ rather alarming to me is the newport way

1:32:24 ↗ road design i was involved with

1:32:27 ↗ the actual design

1:32:30 ↗ into 2018 and 19

1:32:32 ↗ that this would be built to

1:32:35 ↗ and it's the design is for calming the

1:32:38 ↗ traffic

1:32:39 ↗ and

1:32:41 ↗ the safety concern i have for both the

1:32:43 ↗ driver and the pedes pedestrians

1:32:46 ↗ currently is the site

1:32:48 ↗ distance deviation being asked for the

1:32:50 ↗ reduction

1:32:52 ↗ i believe that should not be granted at

1:32:54 ↗ this point without a lot of further

1:32:56 ↗ um

1:32:57 ↗ deliberation on our part

1:33:00 ↗ um the area is prone to

1:33:03 ↗ fast drivers there's a lot of blind

1:33:05 ↗ spots

1:33:06 ↗ and just 10 days ago not 150 feet to 200

1:33:10 ↗ feet away

1:33:11 ↗ um

1:33:12 ↗ there was a car traveling lost control

1:33:14 ↗ it was going too fast it rounded the

1:33:16 ↗ corner and it wedged itself up on a

1:33:18 ↗ meridium

1:33:20 ↗ and it had to be towed away so that so

1:33:23 ↗ i'm very fearful of any type of

1:33:25 ↗ variations

1:33:27 ↗ on

1:33:28 ↗ where the traffic is concerned in the

1:33:30 ↗ road design

1:33:32 ↗ i don't know if he's in a position to

1:33:34 ↗ speak to that tonight

1:33:38 ↗ yes ma'am

1:33:40 ↗ mrs neville thank you very much you had

1:33:43 ↗ some real good questions here

1:33:45 ↗ and i will try to answer them and then i

1:33:48 ↗ will seek my consultant to help in in

1:33:51 ↗ part for the areas that are not

1:33:53 ↗ qualified to respond i think you

1:33:55 ↗ mentioned something

1:33:56 ↗ very important about

1:33:58 ↗ the looks not being consistent with the

1:34:01 ↗ adjacent residential neighborhoods

1:34:03 ↗ and yes you're correct that is the case

1:34:06 ↗ because

1:34:07 ↗ residential neighborhoods across the

1:34:09 ↗ newport way to the west

1:34:12 ↗ are

1:34:13 ↗ are zoning the residential

1:34:15 ↗ to the east where the property is

1:34:18 ↗ located is part of the

1:34:20 ↗ central issaquah district it's it's

1:34:23 ↗ consistent with the downtown area the

1:34:26 ↗ different segments of it here this

1:34:29 ↗ particular property is located in an

1:34:31 ↗ area called

1:34:32 ↗ traditional issaquah

1:34:34 ↗ which is the north

1:34:36 ↗ uh i think that would be northwest tip

1:34:39 ↗ of the downtown central sequoia area

1:34:42 ↗ in this cent in the traditional issaquah

1:34:47 ↗ we are allowed

1:34:48 ↗ certain kind of buildings and certain

1:34:50 ↗ kind of facades and certain kind of

1:34:52 ↗ configuration of the buildings

1:34:55 ↗ it's in the

1:34:58 ↗ section 2.0 of art architectural

1:35:01 ↗ it lists

1:35:02 ↗ this particular

1:35:05 ↗ area

1:35:06 ↗ this particular

1:35:09 ↗ it's that particular area can have

1:35:11 ↗ certain kind of designs

1:35:13 ↗ and off of those designs

1:35:16 ↗ the ones available to us are two choices

1:35:19 ↗ northwest revival and northwest

1:35:22 ↗ contemporary is in this table number 2.0

1:35:27 ↗ and under the northwest revival that's

1:35:30 ↗ what we chose

1:35:31 ↗ uh we actually uh there's an example for

1:35:34 ↗ us to follow again in the central

1:35:37 ↗ issaquah

1:35:39 ↗ development and design standards section

1:35:41 ↗ 2.0 it lists

1:35:43 ↗ a building called coleman building

1:35:46 ↗ and it's in the package that i gave you

1:35:49 ↗ it's it's right here is that as a

1:35:51 ↗ brick-looking building and if you

1:35:54 ↗ compare this to the milano projects it's

1:35:57 ↗ not exactly identical but it's very very

1:36:00 ↗ similar

1:36:01 ↗ now this is in terms of the looks let's

1:36:04 ↗ talk about uh the the

1:36:07 ↗ uh particulars about this northwest

1:36:10 ↗ revival i'm i'm just reading from the

1:36:13 ↗ table 2.0 architectural from central

1:36:16 ↗ issaquah

1:36:17 ↗ development design standards it says

1:36:20 ↗ typically six floors a minimum of one

1:36:23 ↗ maximum as a lot top floor

1:36:27 ↗ steep setbacks

1:36:29 ↗ height height exceeds length those got

1:36:31 ↗ to do with

1:36:32 ↗ style of the construction architect

1:36:34 ↗ could just talk about better

1:36:37 ↗ rectangular

1:36:38 ↗ bar or col shape so we're really limited

1:36:41 ↗ in terms of the configuration of the

1:36:44 ↗ building we could have and orientation

1:36:46 ↗ is vertical and the roof pitch is flat

1:36:50 ↗ so we're really limited to operate with

1:36:52 ↗ that with that confines and we try to

1:36:54 ↗ make it as close as we can

1:36:56 ↗ to

1:36:57 ↗ the coleman building which actually by

1:37:00 ↗ the way the architect who is listening

1:37:02 ↗ used to work at the coleman building and

1:37:05 ↗ it's a historical building in downtown

1:37:08 ↗ uh downtown uh seattle

1:37:11 ↗ you may i ask architect to comment on

1:37:13 ↗ that is that appropriate or no

1:37:17 ↗ mr architect are you there uh

1:37:19 ↗ matt driscoll could you talk about that

1:37:22 ↗ architectural style a little bit sir

1:37:27 ↗ yeah it's virtual

1:37:28 ↗ that's okay i can cover that that's okay

1:37:30 ↗ so we let's skip that then we talk about

1:37:33 ↗ the density increase

1:37:36 ↗ the density increase actually

1:37:38 ↗ is uh

1:37:39 ↗ it's uh it's

1:37:41 ↗ embedded in

1:37:43 ↗ section five of central isoqua

1:37:45 ↗ development design standards

1:37:48 ↗ if you and in fact

1:37:50 ↗ the city of visco did a great job

1:37:52 ↗ following this the initiative in a

1:37:55 ↗ section 5.2 it says that this chapter

1:37:58 ↗ adopted our pursuant to rcw

1:38:01 ↗ 36-778.090

1:38:07 ↗ comprehensive plans

1:38:09 ↗ a comprehensive plan should provide for

1:38:11 ↗ innovative land use management

1:38:14 ↗ techniques including but not limited to

1:38:16 ↗ density bonuses cluster housing plant

1:38:19 ↗ unit developments and transfer of

1:38:22 ↗ development rights

1:38:23 ↗ so

1:38:24 ↗ city musical is actually trying to help

1:38:26 ↗ the public

1:38:28 ↗ by having this density bonus program now

1:38:32 ↗ let's talk about the density

1:38:34 ↗ calculations here that we did

1:38:37 ↗ there's a chart

1:38:39 ↗ table in central issaquah

1:38:42 ↗ development design standards table 4.4 a

1:38:46 ↗ uh it does mention that the frontage of

1:38:48 ↗ the property could be zero to 15 feet

1:38:52 ↗ from the front

1:38:54 ↗ which is newport way in this case we're

1:38:56 ↗ roughly about 14 feet

1:38:58 ↗ it could be zero we're not zero now

1:39:01 ↗ there's that

1:39:02 ↗ uh

1:39:04 ↗ the madame brought a good point about

1:39:06 ↗ sight distance deviation and yes you're

1:39:09 ↗ right

1:39:10 ↗ yes uh but the issue has gone away

1:39:13 ↗ architect redesign uh

1:39:15 ↗ i i kind of blame that on my consultant

1:39:18 ↗ court they should have dealt with that

1:39:20 ↗ if you have an issue you deal with it

1:39:22 ↗ you don't shove it under the rug sorry

1:39:24 ↗ to say this but i speak my heart out so

1:39:27 ↗ we're beyond that so uh we fixed that

1:39:30 ↗ architect fixed it it should have been

1:39:32 ↗ fixed few months ago but we just fixed

1:39:33 ↗ it so that issue is gone i agree with

1:39:36 ↗ you

1:39:37 ↗ that road

1:39:39 ↗ should have the proper side distance

1:39:42 ↗ anything less than

1:39:44 ↗ code standard

1:39:46 ↗ is not acceptable i would not do it i

1:39:48 ↗ cannot open myself to that risk and

1:39:50 ↗ liability is improper and unfriendly to

1:39:53 ↗ my neighbors

1:39:54 ↗ now uh i think there was question about

1:39:56 ↗ affordable units

1:39:58 ↗ well the 104 is think of the past

1:40:01 ↗ uh

1:40:02 ↗ with the changes that we i showed

1:40:04 ↗ earlier i don't think we're going to be

1:40:06 ↗ on 104 i don't know where we're going to

1:40:07 ↗ be probably like

1:40:09 ↗ i don't know 10 or 20 units left we'll

1:40:11 ↗ just have to make the adjustments i'm

1:40:12 ↗ guessing it might be more

1:40:14 ↗ but whatever that is a portion of that

1:40:16 ↗ would be

1:40:18 ↗ voluntarily i would like to do the

1:40:20 ↗ affordable units now in the um

1:40:23 ↗ in the density uh charts that we have

1:40:27 ↗ uh in the uh the density charts that we

1:40:30 ↗ have there's a density bonus program and

1:40:34 ↗ the height increases for the affordable

1:40:36 ↗ units as provided in the land use code

1:40:39 ↗ and it it clearly says that there are

1:40:43 ↗ trade-offs the rewards for the

1:40:45 ↗ development developer to increase the

1:40:48 ↗ height in return for the density bonus

1:40:50 ↗ program that it was

1:40:52 ↗ set forth in the central issaquad

1:40:56 ↗ and design standards

1:40:58 ↗ so

1:40:59 ↗ and i

1:41:01 ↗ um

1:41:04 ↗ i think i answered most of the questions

1:41:06 ↗ there was a little bit about the traffic

1:41:09 ↗ that it gets kind of technical i would

1:41:11 ↗ like the transportation engineer for the

1:41:13 ↗ project to respond to that

1:41:15 ↗ madam may i

1:41:17 ↗ have invited the transportation engineer

1:41:19 ↗ to

1:41:20 ↗ yes that's appropriate mr crumb i'm

1:41:22 ↗ sorry sir i apologize

1:41:30 ↗ what are we doing

1:41:33 ↗ okay

1:41:34 ↗ uh hello everyone my name is spencer

1:41:36 ↗ haney and i work with 10w

1:41:38 ↗ i'm the traffic consultant on this

1:41:39 ↗ project

1:41:41 ↗ we worked with the city and with hussein

1:41:43 ↗ on this project for quite a while now

1:41:46 ↗ and

1:41:47 ↗ in terms of traffic i know the person

1:41:49 ↗ who just commented was talking about

1:41:51 ↗ someone who spun out

1:41:53 ↗ on newport um

1:41:55 ↗ the project itself is actually

1:41:56 ↗ installing a raised intersection which

1:41:59 ↗ if you don't know what that is it's

1:42:00 ↗ actually above the traditional roadway

1:42:02 ↗ level and there will be

1:42:04 ↗ signs in advance of this

1:42:06 ↗ intersection that will

1:42:08 ↗ encourage vehicles to slow down to 15

1:42:10 ↗ miles an hour so the milano project

1:42:13 ↗ itself is doing that

1:42:15 ↗ and that should

1:42:17 ↗ address the

1:42:18 ↗ hopefully address potential speed issues

1:42:20 ↗ on newport

1:42:24 ↗ anything else i mean

1:42:32 ↗ yeah the project's doing um they're also

1:42:34 ↗ installing northbound and southbound

1:42:36 ↗ turn lanes on newport

1:42:38 ↗ um which

1:42:39 ↗ i know i think we worked on a project

1:42:41 ↗ years ago across the way the access via

1:42:44 ↗ pinecone and one of the issues was no

1:42:46 ↗ turn lanes at this intersection and so

1:42:48 ↗ this project

1:42:50 ↗ is installing both of those

1:42:52 ↗ and that will help with

1:42:54 ↗ safety for turn left turning vehicles

1:42:56 ↗ and

1:42:57 ↗ in addition to the

1:42:59 ↗ raised intersection that will help with

1:43:00 ↗ the speeds

1:43:04 ↗ if there's any other questions just let

1:43:05 ↗ me know

1:43:08 ↗ and back to uh i would like to miss uh

1:43:12 ↗ meet my neighbor mrs deville we own two

1:43:14 ↗ properties in that area with neighbors i

1:43:17 ↗ would like to meet her in person and go

1:43:20 ↗ over her concerns and whatever it may be

1:43:22 ↗ i would show her that we're following

1:43:24 ↗ code

1:43:26 ↗ and there's reason behind the code

1:43:29 ↗ when they were adopted by the city

1:43:32 ↗ when they wanted the building to be so

1:43:34 ↗ close to the road

1:43:35 ↗ the idea is to create

1:43:38 ↗ life

1:43:39 ↗ and movement interaction on the road

1:43:44 ↗ make the people to

1:43:46 ↗ bike ride bike lane and all kinds of

1:43:48 ↗ things like that to make the area more

1:43:53 ↗ pedestrian friendly a bike friendly a

1:43:56 ↗ neighborhood that you walk your kid down

1:43:58 ↗ to so there was part of the design

1:44:00 ↗ that we're trying to follow

1:44:02 ↗ it's not

1:44:03 ↗ we'll have to do it like that there's no

1:44:05 ↗ other way i could do but i would like to

1:44:06 ↗ miss mr bill i hope the staff will make

1:44:08 ↗ the introduction between us so i can

1:44:11 ↗ follow up with her after the meeting

1:44:14 ↗ thank you miss kaiser can we move on to

1:44:15 ↗ the next question yes uh the next

1:44:17 ↗ speaker is another virtual attendee tim

1:44:20 ↗ kimball

1:44:21 ↗ tim you should be able to unmute and can

1:44:23 ↗ choose to turn your video on

1:44:26 ↗ yes thank you um

1:44:29 ↗ just want to thank the commission for

1:44:30 ↗ the opportunity to speak on this

1:44:32 ↗ important issue um

1:44:34 ↗ you know i

1:44:35 ↗ i still have some glimmer i do have some

1:44:37 ↗ glimmer of hope that the development

1:44:38 ↗ commission will take

1:44:40 ↗ bold action and recognize the importance

1:44:42 ↗ of protecting this parcel of wetland

1:44:45 ↗ including

1:44:46 ↗ schneider creek which i'm glad to hear

1:44:48 ↗ is not getting cast aside as a

1:44:50 ↗ expendable part of the property

1:44:53 ↗ considering the uh the two really large

1:44:56 ↗ projects to the north and east of milano

1:44:58 ↗ and that would be

1:45:00 ↗ revel and anthology

1:45:02 ↗ it was

1:45:04 ↗ it was my hope that the property in

1:45:05 ↗ question here might act as a sort of a

1:45:08 ↗ natural buffer especially considering

1:45:10 ↗ the

1:45:10 ↗ perpetually running stream that runs

1:45:12 ↗ along the edge of the property

1:45:15 ↗ so

1:45:16 ↗ for what it's worth i'd urge

1:45:17 ↗ consideration of the possibility where

1:45:19 ↗ the city and our county might obtain the

1:45:21 ↗ land to keep as a natural habitat in

1:45:24 ↗ perpetuity but

1:45:26 ↗ realizing this path is

1:45:28 ↗ is unlikely and that the property owner

1:45:31 ↗ does have a right to build

1:45:33 ↗ i would ask with all urgency that the

1:45:36 ↗ project adhered to the strictest

1:45:38 ↗ guidelines possible

1:45:40 ↗ and this this has to include

1:45:42 ↗ sufficient parking without overflow on

1:45:45 ↗ neighboring streets uh

1:45:48 ↗ suitable setbacks and studies of all

1:45:50 ↗ aspects of critical areas

1:45:53 ↗ the um

1:45:55 ↗ you know as we as i think we've

1:45:58 ↗ discussed the newport way corridor is is

1:46:01 ↗ seeing a dramatic surge in traffic and

1:46:04 ↗ additional car trips present a safety

1:46:07 ↗ hazard for the the many families that

1:46:09 ↗ now reside in the area

1:46:11 ↗ including many with young children

1:46:13 ↗ crossing the busy roadway in the

1:46:16 ↗ uh the anthology apartment uh area

1:46:21 ↗ and

1:46:22 ↗ in my opinion you know a seven-story

1:46:25 ↗ high-rise is just way out of character

1:46:27 ↗ with the hillside of cougar mountain

1:46:29 ↗ and just would be a blight on the

1:46:31 ↗ landscape

1:46:33 ↗ um

1:46:35 ↗ and you know you know i have to point

1:46:37 ↗ out i just we don't have a

1:46:39 ↗ housing problem that we can just build

1:46:41 ↗ our way out of

1:46:43 ↗ we have a traffic problem we have a

1:46:45 ↗ growth management problem

1:46:47 ↗ this development is not going to reduce

1:46:49 ↗ the cost of rent

1:46:52 ↗ if it's just not if that were the case

1:46:54 ↗ then rents should have dropped when

1:46:56 ↗ anthology came online

1:46:58 ↗ or atlas

1:47:00 ↗ which are significantly larger than this

1:47:02 ↗ would be

1:47:03 ↗ and that is clearly not the case

1:47:06 ↗ so

1:47:07 ↗ you know to say that this is

1:47:10 ↗ going to address

1:47:12 ↗ the cost of rent just

1:47:14 ↗ does not is just blatantly wrong

1:47:17 ↗ um i i also want to point out we should

1:47:19 ↗ proceed with caution

1:47:21 ↗ where there is a potential for flooding

1:47:24 ↗ please consider that

1:47:26 ↗ newport way has been impacted repeatedly

1:47:29 ↗ where just a short distance away

1:47:32 ↗ there are now what appears to be

1:47:35 ↗ permanent jersey barriers due to slides

1:47:38 ↗ that occur with some frequency from

1:47:40 ↗ cougar mountain

1:47:42 ↗ and um

1:47:44 ↗ construction of you know a large project

1:47:47 ↗ on this 1.3 acre parcel will also have

1:47:49 ↗ significant challenges

1:47:51 ↗ as regards to you know the staging area

1:47:54 ↗ operation of equipment

1:47:56 ↗ uh traffic and safety on a two-lane road

1:47:59 ↗ uh

1:48:00 ↗ which is not designed for heavy traffic

1:48:02 ↗ so you know i haven't i haven't heard

1:48:04 ↗ that addressed

1:48:06 ↗ but um

1:48:08 ↗ you know it's it's good to hear from the

1:48:10 ↗ applicant

1:48:11 ↗ some of his many friends colleagues

1:48:13 ↗ employees family

1:48:16 ↗ and uh in conclusion i thank you for

1:48:18 ↗ listening to my concerns and hope we can

1:48:20 ↗ bring this down and scale to a

1:48:22 ↗ much more reasonable size thank you

1:48:26 ↗ well uh

1:48:28 ↗ thank you very much sir i appreciate it

1:48:30 ↗ and again i would like to meet

1:48:32 ↗ with you after the event and go through

1:48:35 ↗ these questions offline

1:48:37 ↗ i

1:48:38 ↗ i will do my best to give you all the

1:48:40 ↗ information uh as far as the the scale

1:48:43 ↗ of the building here this area is zone

1:48:46 ↗ village residential as a medium density

1:48:50 ↗ it was rezoned i don't know what five

1:48:53 ↗ more than five probably ten years ago

1:48:54 ↗ give or take i'm not exactly sure it was

1:48:57 ↗ way before i purchased the property the

1:48:59 ↗ village residential it was meant to

1:49:02 ↗ provide housing

1:49:04 ↗ for future residents of issaquah or

1:49:08 ↗ commercial activities it could be array

1:49:11 ↗ of different

1:49:12 ↗ activities not just residential

1:49:15 ↗ i'm choosing residential it could be a

1:49:18 ↗ restaurant it could be a coffee shop

1:49:21 ↗ i'm not in those businesses and i think

1:49:22 ↗ those businesses would be more

1:49:24 ↗ destructive to the local

1:49:26 ↗ character and residential integrity of

1:49:28 ↗ the neighborhood than an apartment

1:49:30 ↗ complex now you mentioned something

1:49:32 ↗ about the parking

1:49:35 ↗ the parking were meeting code there was

1:49:37 ↗ a little error in this city's report i

1:49:40 ↗ think

1:49:41 ↗ i was not giving the the credit for the

1:49:43 ↗ uh

1:49:45 ↗ uh electric charging stations will meet

1:49:48 ↗ the code and if there's something we

1:49:50 ↗ didn't or we don't we will make sure we

1:49:52 ↗ do now i do owe

1:49:55 ↗ another property not a parcel right

1:49:57 ↗ across from the site i will promise you

1:50:00 ↗ a promised neighborhood i would not let

1:50:04 ↗ any of my vehicles any of my tenants to

1:50:07 ↗ park in front of your car in your house

1:50:10 ↗ because i own a house not a property

1:50:13 ↗ across the street i was sent in there

1:50:16 ↗ however i think there's a better

1:50:17 ↗ solution for these things here

1:50:19 ↗ i have contacted the neighboring

1:50:22 ↗ property we like to do carpooling

1:50:25 ↗ let's think about the way the future

1:50:27 ↗ let's be smart about this

1:50:30 ↗ if people can carpool if we can organize

1:50:34 ↗ call

1:50:34 ↗ call pooling

1:50:36 ↗ scenario uh then there would be no need

1:50:39 ↗ for a lot of these people have cars

1:50:41 ↗ these are younger people generally who

1:50:43 ↗ live in that apartment because of the

1:50:44 ↗ size of the units

1:50:46 ↗ they they could they could not have a

1:50:48 ↗ car they could do without the car if

1:50:50 ↗ they can't get away with doing their

1:50:52 ↗ chores

1:50:53 ↗ on a collective basis and we're going to

1:50:55 ↗ help with that

1:50:56 ↗ i'm trying to think outside the box here

1:51:00 ↗ and mention about the rents here

1:51:03 ↗ supply and demand really talks for

1:51:05 ↗ itself yes there has been new

1:51:07 ↗ development just look at the costco

1:51:10 ↗ complex being built

1:51:11 ↗ people want to live in issaquah and

1:51:13 ↗ let's be honest

1:51:15 ↗ issacho is beautiful place i love the

1:51:18 ↗ scenic views a larger streams and the

1:51:20 ↗ buffers and at the wetlands

1:51:23 ↗ and

1:51:24 ↗ 50 years ago before you moved to the

1:51:26 ↗ hill somebody had a courtesy or the

1:51:29 ↗ courage

1:51:30 ↗ to log off that hill

1:51:32 ↗ so you could build a house there

1:51:35 ↗ and that's why you're there

1:51:37 ↗ there's going to be future generations

1:51:39 ↗ of americans people who want to enjoy

1:51:42 ↗ the beauties of issaquah

1:51:45 ↗ let's give them that chance

1:51:47 ↗ this

1:51:48 ↗ mr halverson who want to live in israel

1:51:50 ↗ let's give him that chance it can't be

1:51:53 ↗ just all about me isn't us there the

1:51:56 ↗ deal that works for everyone is a deal

1:51:59 ↗ doesn't make one person particularly

1:52:01 ↗ entirely happy

1:52:03 ↗ that's what we're trying to focus on and

1:52:05 ↗ i'm here to listen and i'm here to help

1:52:07 ↗ but we have to respect the code

1:52:10 ↗ it was written for purpose it was

1:52:11 ↗ approved for a reason to serve the

1:52:14 ↗ public and i'm following that so

1:52:18 ↗ and then i think that

1:52:19 ↗ there was a landslide issue was brought

1:52:21 ↗ up yes i do understand the landslide i

1:52:24 ↗ saw it happen it happened across the

1:52:26 ↗ street we don't have a landslide on my

1:52:29 ↗ side my site is fairly flat even across

1:52:32 ↗ the street were ways away yes there's a

1:52:34 ↗ concern for last light but the landslide

1:52:37 ↗ when it happened elsewhere on a steep

1:52:39 ↗ slope it should not deter

1:52:42 ↗ serving the future generations who want

1:52:44 ↗ to enjoy the beauty of issaquah and the

1:52:47 ↗ traffic is safety yes i agree

1:52:50 ↗ yes we're adding a little bit to the

1:52:51 ↗ traffic and safety but you have to look

1:52:54 ↗ at the holistic approach that was

1:52:56 ↗ serving the needs of the future of this

1:52:58 ↗ community with serving the people who

1:52:59 ↗ want to enjoy the beauties just like

1:53:02 ↗ when that hill was logged and you have a

1:53:05 ↗ chance to live in that hill enjoy the

1:53:07 ↗ beauties of issaquah yes you added to

1:53:10 ↗ that traffic

1:53:11 ↗ who are we to say

1:53:13 ↗ i'm here i'm not gonna let anybody else

1:53:15 ↗ come because i'm enjoying my privacy i

1:53:18 ↗ want my traffic to stay the same no

1:53:20 ↗ we have to serve the future we cannot

1:53:23 ↗ stop time

1:53:25 ↗ we can mitigate all the circumstances so

1:53:27 ↗ as long as we respect the code and we're

1:53:29 ↗ trying to work within the confines of

1:53:31 ↗ the code

1:53:32 ↗ i would like to work with you sir down

1:53:34 ↗ the road i hope you meet me thank you

1:53:37 ↗ thank you and uh thanks to all our

1:53:39 ↗ speakers in advance for being mindful of

1:53:41 ↗ our five minute limit tonight thank you

1:53:42 ↗ miss geyser

1:53:44 ↗ next we have mario frizzini

1:53:54 ↗ good evening to all the pres to present

1:53:56 ↗ people

1:53:58 ↗ um my name is mario frizzini

1:54:01 ↗ i'm a bellevue resident

1:54:03 ↗ and particularly i'm a

1:54:06 ↗ tenant of the milano apartment

1:54:09 ↗ i've been

1:54:11 ↗ the menon apartment from day one from

1:54:14 ↗ the opening 22 years ago

1:54:18 ↗ so i know quite well

1:54:23 ↗ the complex is managed

1:54:25 ↗ by the quorum

1:54:27 ↗ brothers

1:54:29 ↗ and

1:54:32 ↗ as we all know

1:54:35 ↗ i things are locally changing and

1:54:37 ↗ naturally as well

1:54:39 ↗ and

1:54:43 ↗ taking into consideration the inflation

1:54:45 ↗ first

1:54:46 ↗ and

1:54:49 ↗ and there is a need for people of my age

1:54:53 ↗ to find protective solutions for living

1:54:56 ↗ as we all know and that's easy to say

1:55:02 ↗ the nanowrimo project could represent

1:55:05 ↗ a drop in a bucket

1:55:07 ↗ but that's how you start filling up the

1:55:09 ↗ buckets by drops

1:55:14 ↗ it doesn't change the dynamic of the

1:55:16 ↗ situation but it's a

1:55:19 ↗ tendency

1:55:20 ↗ that's important

1:55:22 ↗ and it gives the

1:55:24 ↗ the light

1:55:26 ↗ in the end of the tunnel

1:55:29 ↗ where people and the developers to do

1:55:32 ↗ such

1:55:33 ↗ kind of projects

1:55:37 ↗ and

1:55:40 ↗ affordable housing it's

1:55:42 ↗ strategic to

1:55:46 ↗ to the development of the

1:55:49 ↗ well-being of the communities

1:55:55 ↗ so you have these particular departments

1:55:57 ↗ and still would be in a thriving nice

1:56:00 ↗ city area like esop

1:56:03 ↗ i'm saying this because

1:56:06 ↗ bill you

1:56:07 ↗ as you well know is not only bellevue

1:56:10 ↗ prices are

1:56:11 ↗ skyrocketing not only in the rent but in

1:56:14 ↗ everything

1:56:15 ↗ as well

1:56:17 ↗ so having the opportunity and the chance

1:56:20 ↗ to have options this is what a citizen

1:56:23 ↗ is all about

1:56:24 ↗ having options to choose on a personal

1:56:27 ↗ level

1:56:29 ↗ and

1:56:30 ↗ and the administrations

1:56:32 ↗ through their laws and enforce them

1:56:36 ↗ give options and opportunities to decide

1:56:40 ↗ where to go and live

1:56:46 ↗ so as a citizen i would like to have the

1:56:48 ↗ freedom

1:56:49 ↗ of options let me reinforce that

1:56:52 ↗ considering the skype rocket price of

1:56:54 ↗ the rents and living costs will you let

1:56:57 ↗ me highlight that as well again

1:57:01 ↗ so

1:57:02 ↗ as my middle ages

1:57:05 ↗ i also have the option of thinking to

1:57:07 ↗ transfer to a less pricey community

1:57:10 ↗ in the area

1:57:13 ↗ but still with a decent infrastructure

1:57:15 ↗ and nice downtown like giza

1:57:18 ↗ and still near to major cities like

1:57:20 ↗ bellevue and

1:57:23 ↗ seattle that's important too as well

1:57:26 ↗ and city and izaka could be the solution

1:57:29 ↗ or one of it for me and my wife as well

1:57:38 ↗ so with a project of this nature without

1:57:40 ↗ getting in the complex mix of the

1:57:43 ↗ technicalities of the respecting codes

1:57:45 ↗ that's something that administration has

1:57:47 ↗ to take care of

1:57:49 ↗ but have an idea of the great quality

1:57:53 ↗ that

1:57:54 ↗ comes out from a project of this nature

1:57:56 ↗ and the way it's been

1:57:58 ↗ managed

1:58:01 ↗ and most of all

1:58:02 ↗ the rent control pricing by the izaka

1:58:05 ↗ municipality that's a very strategic

1:58:08 ↗ point of view

1:58:09 ↗ for

1:58:11 ↗ who wants to go and live in a place like

1:58:13 ↗ that

1:58:16 ↗ i'm almost finished with me my

1:58:18 ↗ consideration but

1:58:20 ↗ so what could be wrong with this

1:58:22 ↗ solution of having

1:58:24 ↗ something of this nature

1:58:27 ↗ controlled

1:58:28 ↗ by the administration

1:58:31 ↗ so developing a control

1:58:33 ↗ ruled way

1:58:35 ↗ brings wealth to the community

1:58:38 ↗ the alternative brings all the recession

1:58:40 ↗ and depression

1:58:42 ↗ let me say

1:58:47 ↗ thank you for your attention

1:58:49 ↗ good evening to everyone again

1:58:56 ↗ next we have k elmer

1:59:11 ↗ okay

1:59:13 ↗ good evening

1:59:15 ↗ first i want to thank mr karam and um

1:59:18 ↗ all of your family and folks for a

1:59:20 ↗ really very lovely presentation it's one

1:59:22 ↗ of the few times that i've actually

1:59:25 ↗ heard a developer speak so personally

1:59:28 ↗ about his project and it's very touching

1:59:31 ↗ i do appreciate it

1:59:35 ↗ i'd like to express another point of

1:59:37 ↗ view just a view so that you can

1:59:39 ↗ understand

1:59:40 ↗ why there's opposition and concern from

1:59:43 ↗ the neighborhood in general

1:59:45 ↗ and um

1:59:48 ↗ it's not that we're opposed to

1:59:50 ↗ development

1:59:51 ↗ it's not that we're a nimby kind of

1:59:54 ↗ community we're not

1:59:56 ↗ um but you have to understand the

1:59:58 ↗ context that you're coming into

2:00:02 ↗ if you go from just and i know you know

2:00:04 ↗ this area from the riva development to

2:00:07 ↗ the anthology development

2:00:10 ↗ to the rebel development on one side of

2:00:13 ↗ the road

2:00:14 ↗ and then if you go to the developments

2:00:16 ↗ that include

2:00:17 ↗ um the

2:00:19 ↗ town homes and rentals and

2:00:24 ↗ individual homes and what have you we

2:00:26 ↗ have almost a thousand units in this

2:00:28 ↗ tiny little section this is a small

2:00:31 ↗ section

2:00:32 ↗ from revel

2:00:33 ↗ over to riva

2:00:35 ↗ this is a very small section of our

2:00:37 ↗ community

2:00:38 ↗ and our community has been quite patient

2:00:41 ↗ actually as hundreds and hundreds of

2:00:43 ↗ units have gone up in our community

2:00:46 ↗ as we have more and more intrusion into

2:00:48 ↗ our neighborhood which we have been

2:00:49 ↗ gracious about people walking their dogs

2:00:52 ↗ using our park you know more traffic

2:00:55 ↗ more slow downs i think our community

2:00:57 ↗ has been fairly gracious in extending

2:01:00 ↗ welcome

2:01:02 ↗ but i want you to understand

2:01:03 ↗ why we feel

2:01:05 ↗ concerned about this development

2:01:08 ↗ it's a lot of development in a very

2:01:11 ↗ small amount of space

2:01:13 ↗ and i know you've done you're doing all

2:01:14 ↗ kinds of things to make that more

2:01:16 ↗ workable

2:01:17 ↗ but the truth the bottom line is it's a

2:01:20 ↗ lot of development 104 units in

2:01:23 ↗ 1.3 acres

2:01:25 ↗ is a lot of concrete

2:01:27 ↗ in a very small amount of space

2:01:31 ↗ and yes it will add more more density to

2:01:33 ↗ the neighborhood more traffic more more

2:01:36 ↗ issues it's true

2:01:37 ↗ but the bottom line is it's a lot of

2:01:39 ↗ development in a small amount of space

2:01:43 ↗ so that that's my major concern i i

2:01:46 ↗ don't think that buffer reduction should

2:01:48 ↗ be given

2:01:49 ↗ i think the maximum amount of space

2:01:51 ↗ should be retained i'm curious about how

2:01:53 ↗ much open space there is play space not

2:01:56 ↗ just what we can see in the buffer areas

2:01:59 ↗ but in the actual livable space that

2:02:01 ↗ comes with the develop development

2:02:04 ↗ itself

2:02:06 ↗ and in terms of i wanted to mention one

2:02:08 ↗ thing about i'm very much a supporter of

2:02:09 ↗ low income housing and i think it's very

2:02:11 ↗ sad we have so little in issaquah but i

2:02:14 ↗ don't think we should be under any

2:02:16 ↗ illusions

2:02:17 ↗ about who this is going to house

2:02:20 ↗ because according to my calculations if

2:02:22 ↗ you're looking at

2:02:24 ↗ 10 to 20 percent for affordable housing

2:02:26 ↗ and within that you're looking at

2:02:30 ↗ 30 for very low income which is really

2:02:32 ↗ more the the the income categories that

2:02:35 ↗ people have been speaking to all night

2:02:37 ↗ in terms of people

2:02:38 ↗ most in need of of rental housing

2:02:41 ↗ it's two to four units for the entire

2:02:44 ↗ complex

2:02:46 ↗ two to four units would actually be the

2:02:49 ↗ only number of homes that are units that

2:02:51 ↗ would be dedicated to people in the low

2:02:54 ↗ very low income category the low income

2:02:56 ↗ category below 30 percent of median

2:02:58 ↗ income

2:02:59 ↗ and the primary reason or one of the

2:03:02 ↗ reasons for this is it's a very

2:03:04 ↗ expensive piece of land

2:03:06 ↗ i would be curious to know what rents

2:03:07 ↗ are the 80 percent

2:03:09 ↗ the bulk of the tenants going to pay for

2:03:12 ↗ these units it's going to be a lot

2:03:14 ↗ because it's a very expensive piece of

2:03:16 ↗ land

2:03:18 ↗ but the bottom line again is

2:03:21 ↗ my concern is just simply and the

2:03:24 ↗ neighbor's concern is the size of the

2:03:26 ↗ project after we already have a thousand

2:03:28 ↗ units in a very small amount of space

2:03:31 ↗ along newport way

2:03:33 ↗ the impact

2:03:35 ↗ each hundred units 200 units additional

2:03:38 ↗ units each one keeps having a drip drip

2:03:40 ↗ drip effect on the neighborhood

2:03:43 ↗ and we notice it because we live here

2:03:46 ↗ and if people lived here

2:03:48 ↗ that had spoken you would see in our

2:03:50 ↗ neighborhood would understand more why

2:03:53 ↗ this concern exists

2:03:55 ↗ so i thank you for all of the concern

2:03:58 ↗ you put into the project i feel your

2:03:59 ↗ sincerity

2:04:01 ↗ and and i do feel you're kind of a

2:04:03 ↗ different kind of developer in the sense

2:04:04 ↗ of your willingness to connect with

2:04:06 ↗ community and i thank you for that but

2:04:08 ↗ please do understand that that is one of

2:04:11 ↗ our major concerns

2:04:13 ↗ a lot of concrete i'm not enchanted with

2:04:15 ↗ with your architectural plans the way

2:04:18 ↗ some folks are a lot of concrete

2:04:20 ↗ very close to the road

2:04:22 ↗ very little true open space

2:04:25 ↗ and certainly too many more additional

2:04:28 ↗ units in our in our in our community

2:04:31 ↗ so thank you

2:04:34 ↗ well

2:04:35 ↗ miss elmer i really appreciate comments

2:04:38 ↗ and i would love to meet you in person

2:04:40 ↗ after

2:04:41 ↗ this

2:04:42 ↗ meeting uh at your convenience and your

2:04:45 ↗ time you name it i will be there um

2:04:48 ↗ there were a number of things i i can't

2:04:51 ↗ address it in the same order you

2:04:52 ↗ mentioned about two to four units or

2:04:56 ↗ for people of

2:04:57 ↗ uh you know lower income

2:05:01 ↗ we're not going to have that 104 units

2:05:03 ↗ which i had earlier i think we're going

2:05:05 ↗ to lose some units because of the

2:05:06 ↗ setbacks

2:05:08 ↗ let's say we end up with 80 or 90 or

2:05:10 ↗ whatever

2:05:12 ↗ i think we will have something between

2:05:14 ↗ 10 and 20 units affordable the

2:05:17 ↗ affordable units means there's a cap on

2:05:20 ↗ the income

2:05:21 ↗ you could be a low income and still live

2:05:25 ↗ there

2:05:26 ↗ there's a percentage of at fifty percent

2:05:29 ↗ uh

2:05:30 ↗ actually ceiling not a cap

2:05:32 ↗ fifty 50

2:05:33 ↗ and

2:05:34 ↗ there's a there's a percentage of 80

2:05:37 ↗ i expect to be between 10 and 20

2:05:39 ↗ probably closer to 15 or so uh so which

2:05:43 ↗ it will provide a remedy in this

2:05:45 ↗ difficult time for the community uh you

2:05:48 ↗ mentioned

2:05:50 ↗ yeah if you mentioned something about

2:05:52 ↗ that that there's a lot of units being

2:05:54 ↗ built in that area well i think we need

2:05:57 ↗ to really consider where nation of law

2:06:00 ↗ and order

2:06:01 ↗ there were people who came before us and

2:06:04 ↗ made the decision they went to hearings

2:06:07 ↗ and there was a decision made the public

2:06:09 ↗ comments were made and public were heard

2:06:12 ↗ and that area to the northwest of the

2:06:16 ↗ central issaquah district was zoned to

2:06:18 ↗ be the village residential

2:06:21 ↗ and it was done so for a reason it was

2:06:23 ↗ done so for purpose of serving the

2:06:26 ↗ future needs of the community

2:06:29 ↗ i think we should respect that

2:06:32 ↗ it's is that the decision we made after

2:06:35 ↗ the number of hearings i'm sure they've

2:06:36 ↗ been repeated once it was done way

2:06:38 ↗ before i bought the property i was not

2:06:40 ↗ involved in that but i respect that

2:06:42 ↗ decision by the city council and the

2:06:45 ↗ staff

2:06:46 ↗ and and

2:06:47 ↗ it may be hard for some us

2:06:50 ↗ to understand that but i think we need

2:06:52 ↗ to look at the younger generations of

2:06:54 ↗ the people like mr halverson

2:06:56 ↗ i spoken down i would walk in downtown

2:06:59 ↗ and ask the younger people where do you

2:07:02 ↗ live

2:07:03 ↗ most of them don't live in issaquah

2:07:06 ↗ this is a recipe for economic decay we

2:07:09 ↗ don't have people

2:07:10 ↗ able to afford living in issaquah and

2:07:13 ↗ working in issaquah

2:07:15 ↗ that's that's that's not the direction a

2:07:17 ↗ a vibrant city should take i think there

2:07:20 ↗ was uh

2:07:21 ↗ there was about number of units and

2:07:24 ↗ there was a lot of units in that area i

2:07:26 ↗ agree there's a lot of units but it was

2:07:27 ↗ intended as such it was decided as such

2:07:30 ↗ before i bought the property now

2:07:33 ↗ what we can do together to make it less

2:07:36 ↗ painful for the community i will do i

2:07:39 ↗ will work with you

2:07:40 ↗ please meet me

2:07:42 ↗ and i will sit on and talk to you we

2:07:44 ↗ talk about different options and

2:07:46 ↗ hopefully uh i can gain your trust

2:07:49 ↗ and i want to let you know i love my

2:07:51 ↗ neighbors i really do i am not a person

2:07:55 ↗ i'm not inspired by money i like making

2:07:58 ↗ money but i'm doing it because i like

2:08:00 ↗ what i do

2:08:01 ↗ i like connecting i like serving the

2:08:04 ↗ people i like making friends the people

2:08:06 ↗ that i that that i meet in my

2:08:08 ↗ communities are my friends

2:08:11 ↗ i've connected them i fall for them and

2:08:14 ↗ they fall for me

2:08:15 ↗ i like to have that relationship with my

2:08:17 ↗ neighbors whether you live inside my

2:08:19 ↗ community or don't

2:08:21 ↗ i want you to trust in me

2:08:23 ↗ and i will do everything and anything

2:08:25 ↗ that i can to gain your trust thank you

2:08:30 ↗ carlos topang i know you had indicated a

2:08:33 ↗ desire to speak are you in a position to

2:08:35 ↗ make comments now

2:08:37 ↗ yes uh thank you

2:08:40 ↗ can you hear me

2:08:42 ↗ yes

2:08:43 ↗ okay

2:08:44 ↗ um

2:08:46 ↗ yeah i would like to give a kind of a

2:08:48 ↗ different perspective

2:08:51 ↗ and thank you for allowing me to speak i

2:08:53 ↗ only have five minutes i suppose

2:08:56 ↗ um

2:08:58 ↗ i

2:08:59 ↗ i am from the philippines and uh i

2:09:02 ↗ believe in japan

2:09:04 ↗ i've seen

2:09:06 ↗ indonesia i've seen malaysia

2:09:09 ↗ hong kong

2:09:10 ↗ i've also

2:09:12 ↗ seen

2:09:13 ↗ san francisco los angeles and houston

2:09:18 ↗ and uh

2:09:19 ↗ of course people have different ideas of

2:09:21 ↗ what is beautiful

2:09:23 ↗ and what is a good community and what is

2:09:24 ↗ a bad community

2:09:27 ↗ uh and there are people you know who are

2:09:29 ↗ for

2:09:30 ↗ dense uh population right per square

2:09:35 ↗ meter or per square

2:09:37 ↗ mile

2:09:38 ↗ but there are also people who

2:09:41 ↗ would rather have sprawl as in a lot of

2:09:44 ↗ areas in in san francisco and in l.a

2:09:49 ↗ there's a lot of sprawl right i mean

2:09:51 ↗ houses just spread miles and miles

2:09:54 ↗ and

2:09:56 ↗ so as a community i think

2:09:59 ↗ we can

2:10:01 ↗ think about

2:10:03 ↗ exactly what makes a community

2:10:05 ↗ uh dynamic

2:10:08 ↗ and i've

2:10:10 ↗ i've seen

2:10:12 ↗ like i said i've visited a lot of

2:10:14 ↗ countries and cities

2:10:15 ↗ i think what makes a

2:10:17 ↗ a city dynamic is actually

2:10:20 ↗ allowing business to grow also

2:10:24 ↗ of course we have to worry about people

2:10:26 ↗ right but what is beautiful for you may

2:10:29 ↗ not be beautiful for me

2:10:31 ↗ and so

2:10:32 ↗ uh

2:10:33 ↗ once a code is already set up you know

2:10:36 ↗ like a building code

2:10:38 ↗ and people have decided

2:10:40 ↗ i think we have to stick to that black

2:10:43 ↗ and so i hear uh miss k ulmer i hear

2:10:47 ↗ what she's saying

2:10:48 ↗ that you know it's going to be a dense

2:10:51 ↗ population in that area

2:10:53 ↗ but

2:10:55 ↗ i think we also have

2:10:57 ↗ uh to worry about where people will live

2:11:00 ↗ and i also heard that you know

2:11:03 ↗ a few units does not make a difference

2:11:06 ↗ well

2:11:07 ↗ it is our attitude towards having a few

2:11:10 ↗ units in the same

2:11:12 ↗ you know area is it density or is it

2:11:15 ↗ sprawl that's the question what what do

2:11:17 ↗ we want

2:11:18 ↗ and i think i want density more than

2:11:22 ↗ sprawl i've seen both

2:11:24 ↗ uh

2:11:26 ↗ i've

2:11:28 ↗ it's just that the people would like to

2:11:30 ↗ uh

2:11:32 ↗ don't mind living together in a closed

2:11:34 ↗ space of course

2:11:35 ↗ there are other implications like

2:11:37 ↗ traffic

2:11:39 ↗ and

2:11:40 ↗ i'm from

2:11:42 ↗ asia where i've seen this i mean there's

2:11:44 ↗ a lot of density there

2:11:46 ↗ i don't mind i mean it's i think it's

2:11:49 ↗ it's actually good

2:11:51 ↗ thank you

2:11:56 ↗ chair do we have anyone else sign up to

2:11:58 ↗ speak well we that's the end of those

2:12:00 ↗ who either signed up before the meeting

2:12:02 ↗ or early in the meeting i've had a few

2:12:04 ↗ uh two individuals virtually indicate a

2:12:06 ↗ late desire to make comments i believe

2:12:08 ↗ we have a few in the room as well right

2:12:10 ↗ i want to go ahead and let's proceed

2:12:12 ↗ with anyone in the room who has not

2:12:14 ↗ signed up before but might want to make

2:12:16 ↗ comments this evening

2:12:20 ↗ please and uh introduce yourself please

2:12:23 ↗ and speak at the lectern

2:12:25 ↗ hi my name is connie marsh and i've been

2:12:28 ↗ following development in issaquah for at

2:12:30 ↗ least 25 years

2:12:32 ↗ and you're about the 40th developer

2:12:35 ↗ who's an amazing person

2:12:37 ↗ so i i gotta say it doesn't work

2:12:40 ↗ what it what it is is

2:12:42 ↗ if you do what you say and then we know

2:12:44 ↗ in the end that it was true but in

2:12:47 ↗ advance

2:12:48 ↗ you just have to you have to do it every

2:12:51 ↗ day so

2:12:52 ↗ uh

2:12:53 ↗ we wrote in a bunch of comments and

2:12:56 ↗ questions and i didn't hear most of my

2:12:58 ↗ questions answered i thought they were

2:13:00 ↗ going to be so i'm going to waste my

2:13:01 ↗ time asking my same questions again

2:13:04 ↗ and my name is connie marsh i live on

2:13:06 ↗ squawk and i love storm water so i'm

2:13:10 ↗ going to i'm going to give you my storm

2:13:12 ↗ water questions

2:13:15 ↗ because i think the wetland stuff has

2:13:16 ↗ been sufficiently discussed

2:13:19 ↗ the

2:13:20 ↗ uh

2:13:21 ↗ development interfaces with the

2:13:23 ↗ municipal storm water system and you are

2:13:27 ↗ changing the municipal storm water

2:13:29 ↗ system in a manner that is

2:13:34 ↗ hard to decipher and looks as if it is

2:13:37 ↗ going into

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2:13:39 ↗ schneider

2:13:40 ↗ creek

2:13:41 ↗ not too far from where the

2:13:44 ↗ gateway senior if you remember that

2:13:46 ↗ outfall is that we have had problems

2:13:49 ↗ with ever since it was put in it has

2:13:52 ↗ overflowed it has eroded the wetland

2:13:55 ↗ buffers and it is causing an issue so

2:13:58 ↗ that is an area of concern that i have

2:14:00 ↗ not seen

2:14:02 ↗ result we also have

2:14:05 ↗ the the

2:14:07 ↗ outfall

2:14:08 ↗ of that city storm water seems to be

2:14:12 ↗ actually inside the buffer and seeing

2:14:14 ↗ how you are changing the city stormwater

2:14:18 ↗ system i want to understand if you are

2:14:20 ↗ going to have to bring them up

2:14:23 ↗ to code i see you have a well on your

2:14:26 ↗ property i have still not gotten an

2:14:28 ↗ answer as to whether that isn't exempt

2:14:30 ↗ well or is it that well historically

2:14:32 ↗ carried a water right or what its

2:14:34 ↗ pumping capacity used to be

2:14:37 ↗ and also at larger rain events we have

2:14:40 ↗ significant and known flooding

2:14:42 ↗ downstream

2:14:44 ↗ in the gateway property that impacts

2:14:47 ↗ schneider creek and goes into the storm

2:14:50 ↗ water system that then impacts the

2:14:52 ↗ wetland along i-90 and that is the that

2:14:56 ↗ is also your storm water and i don't see

2:14:59 ↗ that addressed in your

2:15:02 ↗ development and the

2:15:05 ↗ wetlands

2:15:06 ↗ on the wash dot mitigation parcel that

2:15:09 ↗ you are next to

2:15:10 ↗ overflow

2:15:12 ↗ and they do flow into schneider creek

2:15:15 ↗ they are connected so i dispute your

2:15:17 ↗ wetland delineations that do indicate

2:15:20 ↗ that those wetlands are not connected to

2:15:23 ↗ schneider creek

2:15:24 ↗ because i have seen them i have video of

2:15:27 ↗ them in these rain events flowing into

2:15:29 ↗ schneider creek so i believe your

2:15:32 ↗ wetland your wetland is misrepresented

2:15:36 ↗ in your wetland delineation

2:15:38 ↗ and uh

2:15:40 ↗ then we also have storm water sheet

2:15:42 ↗ flowing going across newport way

2:15:45 ↗ now it is entering your property

2:15:49 ↗ i am not understanding whose water that

2:15:51 ↗ is i think it is your water to deal with

2:15:54 ↗ the city might say it's theirs but if

2:15:56 ↗ you are redoing your road in that area

2:16:00 ↗ and you are creating a raised area

2:16:05 ↗ your your plans are not

2:16:08 ↗ showing how that that sheet flow is

2:16:11 ↗ going to be taken care of

2:16:14 ↗ and

2:16:15 ↗ such so again you have a lot of

2:16:18 ↗ different water all going in different

2:16:19 ↗ areas and you have some

2:16:21 ↗ issues

2:16:22 ↗ i have watched the trees being taken

2:16:24 ↗ down on your property in the last year

2:16:27 ↗ significant trees have been taken down

2:16:30 ↗ before

2:16:32 ↗ since 2018 and i don't understand how

2:16:34 ↗ they could not be counted as trees once

2:16:36 ↗ you started having uh conversations with

2:16:39 ↗ the city i think those should be counted

2:16:41 ↗ as original trees

2:16:44 ↗ and

2:16:46 ↗ then again we expect

2:16:48 ↗ uh wetter winters and so we have not

2:16:51 ↗ created a stormwater manual yet for our

2:16:54 ↗ town it might be coming that actually

2:16:57 ↗ increases the amount of water that you

2:16:59 ↗ are going to be taking care of so i

2:17:01 ↗ think that you will need to

2:17:03 ↗ upsize your detention and your treatment

2:17:06 ↗ of storm water because we're going to

2:17:08 ↗ get more and more and more and i want to

2:17:11 ↗ reiterate kaye's comments that i didn't

2:17:15 ↗ see recreation area

2:17:19 ↗ for your large number of people

2:17:22 ↗ where are they going to go where are

2:17:24 ↗ they going to shop how are they not

2:17:26 ↗ going to be in their cars because

2:17:28 ↗ there's not really way to get food so i

2:17:31 ↗ would encourage you to actually put a

2:17:33 ↗ little bit of commercial in the bottom

2:17:36 ↗ of your building to try to

2:17:39 ↗ assuage a little bit of the traffic

2:17:41 ↗ thank you very much

2:17:44 ↗ lots of good questions and again i i i

2:17:47 ↗ would love to meet you after the event

2:17:49 ↗ we go through whatever you're not

2:17:51 ↗ satisfied with the answers here these

2:17:54 ↗ are fairly technical so i have to revert

2:17:56 ↗ to my staff

2:17:57 ↗ to respond to those but very quickly on

2:18:00 ↗ the trees here when i purchased the

2:18:02 ↗ property uh we did

2:18:05 ↗ i came down here unexpectedly

2:18:09 ↗ no problem thank you thank you i mr

2:18:11 ↗ chair may i respond to those questions

2:18:14 ↗ when i purchased the property in 2019 we

2:18:17 ↗ did the survey

2:18:19 ↗ on the property including all the trees

2:18:21 ↗ all those trees are there every one of

2:18:24 ↗ them they were tagged by the arborist

2:18:27 ↗ the the the trees that you see there we

2:18:29 ↗ had a plumber there

2:18:31 ↗ which used to live there was my talent

2:18:33 ↗ the plumber went uh a

2:18:36 ↗ landscaping gentleman came in and he's

2:18:39 ↗ in logging tree business i didn't know

2:18:41 ↗ so those trees are not the trees from

2:18:43 ↗ the site every one of those trees are

2:18:46 ↗ there and i i did mention that to madam

2:18:49 ↗ director and things so that's that's

2:18:51 ↗ that's done there were a few other

2:18:53 ↗ questions that i think there were some

2:18:55 ↗ issues about questions about storm water

2:18:57 ↗ which are fairly technical we are

2:18:59 ↗ improving the storm water quality is an

2:19:02 ↗ enhancement

2:19:03 ↗ what we have right now

2:19:05 ↗ i'm sorry to say this we have human

2:19:07 ↗ waste going into this stream uh this is

2:19:10 ↗ what we have now we possibly could have

2:19:13 ↗ petroleum products if there's a

2:19:15 ↗ underground storage tank for diesel

2:19:17 ↗ which i expect there is

2:19:21 ↗ we have that going to the stream so

2:19:24 ↗ is that a good thing to be no let's

2:19:26 ↗ remove these things and let's fix them

2:19:28 ↗ but i would like to revert to my

2:19:31 ↗ engineer a civil engineer to talk about

2:19:34 ↗ the water quality

2:19:36 ↗ mr chairman please

2:19:44 ↗ thank you for the opportunity to respond

2:19:48 ↗ my name is michael moody i'm a licensed

2:19:50 ↗ professional civil engineer in the state

2:19:51 ↗ of washington

2:19:52 ↗ and state of texas

2:19:54 ↗ i'm also a lead accredited professional

2:19:57 ↗ and a certified erosion and sediment

2:19:58 ↗ control lead which is a washington state

2:20:01 ↗ department of ecology certification

2:20:03 ↗ for construction and stormwater

2:20:04 ↗ management

2:20:06 ↗ so just just to speak

2:20:08 ↗ briefly about stormwater management that

2:20:10 ↗ is that is my passion as well

2:20:13 ↗ but i also have a passion for the human

2:20:14 ↗ built environment and so i i trust the

2:20:18 ↗ washington state department of ecology

2:20:20 ↗ stormwater manual the king county

2:20:22 ↗ stormwater manual the issaquad denim

2:20:24 ↗ stormwater manual

2:20:26 ↗ and actually there's there's an

2:20:27 ↗ interesting point to be made here

2:20:29 ↗ because there was a question about

2:20:30 ↗ the

2:20:32 ↗ increase of

2:20:34 ↗ stormwater control um and that that

2:20:37 ↗ there

2:20:38 ↗ miss marsh had not seen a manual that

2:20:41 ↗ addresses that and and the current

2:20:43 ↗ manual actually does say that we we have

2:20:45 ↗ to begin with the assumption that

2:20:46 ↗ pre-developed condition

2:20:48 ↗ is forested

2:20:50 ↗ this site is not forested today and so

2:20:54 ↗ trees in a forested condition act like a

2:20:56 ↗ sponge for stormwater management

2:20:59 ↗ and that's not happening today because

2:21:00 ↗ they're on this site it's

2:21:02 ↗ it's not forested but we are required to

2:21:05 ↗ start there

2:21:06 ↗ so we we actually are increasing the

2:21:08 ↗ the amount of stormwater that is

2:21:11 ↗ protected and controlled because we

2:21:12 ↗ start with

2:21:14 ↗ the four state condition then we add our

2:21:16 ↗ proposed condition on top of that

2:21:18 ↗ and we cannot

2:21:20 ↗ exceed

2:21:21 ↗ the pre-developed

2:21:22 ↗ calculated discharge rate

2:21:25 ↗ uh and and so that that we start there

2:21:28 ↗ and our detention system

2:21:30 ↗ uh provides volume that that matches and

2:21:33 ↗ complies with that stormwater manual

2:21:35 ↗ the discharge location

2:21:37 ↗ there is a an outfall in the buffer that

2:21:40 ↗ is true we are not impacting the buffer

2:21:42 ↗ though there is a pipe that connects to

2:21:44 ↗ that system we connect outside the

2:21:47 ↗ buffer to that pipe with a brand new uh

2:21:49 ↗ system

2:21:51 ↗ so we also have water quality

2:21:54 ↗ requirement so that's we have to clean

2:21:56 ↗ the water up as well and this project

2:21:58 ↗ does the same it meets the the

2:22:00 ↗ requirements

2:22:01 ↗ of the manual and and it will reduce

2:22:05 ↗ actually the number one pollutant in all

2:22:08 ↗ of puget sound is sediment

2:22:10 ↗ and that's the first one we start with

2:22:12 ↗ we have to reduce the total suspended

2:22:14 ↗ solids by 80 and we are doing that and

2:22:16 ↗ actually exceeding that on this project

2:22:19 ↗ there are other

2:22:20 ↗ pollutants that we are removing as well

2:22:22 ↗ in addition to that nutrients and metals

2:22:24 ↗ to be precise

2:22:28 ↗ so i could talk at nauseam about stone

2:22:30 ↗ management i love it but the bottom line

2:22:32 ↗ is that this project is

2:22:34 ↗ in support of and trusts the stormwind

2:22:37 ↗ emanuel that city of israel has adopted

2:22:40 ↗ and we we trust that manual will protect

2:22:42 ↗ the the downstream system

2:22:49 ↗ thank you is there anyone else who would

2:22:51 ↗ like to speak tonight who did not have

2:22:53 ↗ an opportunity to sign up before please

2:22:55 ↗ come to the lectern and give your name

2:22:56 ↗ before you speak thanks i'm jack

2:22:58 ↗ goldberg

2:22:59 ↗ uh hussain thank you for a good

2:23:01 ↗ presentation

2:23:02 ↗ i have a question about parking in your

2:23:05 ↗ facility

2:23:06 ↗ i guess some earlier data i saw i said

2:23:09 ↗ 104 units and 90 parking spaces so

2:23:12 ↗ that's roughly 15 percent less

2:23:16 ↗ obviously this facility is in a

2:23:19 ↗ non-walking environment you can't it's

2:23:22 ↗ two miles to the closest grocery store

2:23:25 ↗ what kind of data do you have that says

2:23:27 ↗ only 85 percent of your occupants are

2:23:30 ↗ going to have one car and how many are

2:23:31 ↗ going to have two cars

2:23:33 ↗ i'm concerned there's not enough and

2:23:34 ↗ where do they park if they're not in

2:23:36 ↗ your underground parking there's no

2:23:38 ↗ parking on the street

2:23:40 ↗ well

2:23:41 ↗ yeah may i mr sure

2:23:44 ↗ real good questions here where my

2:23:46 ↗ numbers come from it's come from it's

2:23:48 ↗ called municipal code

2:23:50 ↗ there is a credit for smaller units

2:23:55 ↗ less than 600 square feet is 0.75

2:23:59 ↗ per unit

2:24:01 ↗ there is a credit for

2:24:03 ↗ electric charging vehicle stations

2:24:06 ↗ maximum 5

2:24:08 ↗ by the way we're doing 30 percent and

2:24:10 ↗ we're taking the maximum of that but

2:24:13 ↗ ultimately

2:24:14 ↗ it comes about

2:24:16 ↗ management the way i look at this you're

2:24:18 ↗ going to meet code but there will be

2:24:20 ↗ times that that code may not

2:24:24 ↗ stand up there could be yes so what i've

2:24:27 ↗ done so you know i've contacted my

2:24:29 ↗ neighbors we want to start a carpooling

2:24:32 ↗ program

2:24:33 ↗ and we want to start a an opportunity

2:24:37 ↗ that that people could do with less cars

2:24:40 ↗ a lot of young people are doing that

2:24:42 ↗ right now

2:24:44 ↗ we're adding the bike lane to the street

2:24:46 ↗ so all of these is going to help but our

2:24:49 ↗ argument is mainly is is embedded in

2:24:52 ↗ issaquah municipal code

2:24:54 ↗ i'm not going beyond that i i swear to

2:24:57 ↗ god i'm not making it up i'm not

2:24:59 ↗ exceeding the problem with that is

2:25:01 ↗ how much of it is is based on an

2:25:04 ↗ apartment complex that's dense that's

2:25:06 ↗ not in walking distance to anywhere you

2:25:09 ↗ have to have a car and carpooling that's

2:25:11 ↗ good but that doesn't mean that five

2:25:14 ↗ different tenants own one car

2:25:16 ↗ everybody's got a car but they only use

2:25:17 ↗ one of them at a time

2:25:20 ↗ so i'm really concerned that there's not

2:25:22 ↗ going to be enough place and you know

2:25:24 ↗ nothing on the street

2:25:25 ↗ okay i'm that's my favorite i agree with

2:25:28 ↗ you that's what i think this argument

2:25:29 ↗ said when a quote is enacted is a one

2:25:32 ↗ glove fits all kind of thing i i hear

2:25:35 ↗ you and i want to work with you on that

2:25:37 ↗ i would like to address those concerns

2:25:39 ↗ down the road but

2:25:41 ↗ we are meeting code that's the bottom

2:25:43 ↗ line and we will go above that now i do

2:25:46 ↗ owe another property across the street i

2:25:49 ↗ promise you if anybody wants to park in

2:25:52 ↗ front of your house i haven't parked in

2:25:54 ↗ front of my other house before the park

2:25:55 ↗ in front of yours but that's not the

2:25:57 ↗ point that's not the answer that's not

2:25:59 ↗ the answer i know but i will i will do

2:26:01 ↗ what i can but my

2:26:04 ↗ argument is embedded in the it's called

2:26:06 ↗ municipal code and i'm following that

2:26:10 ↗ if there's something saying is that

2:26:11 ↗ really appropriate

2:26:13 ↗ you know theoretically it's good but is

2:26:15 ↗ it really going to manage all the cars

2:26:17 ↗ that are at that complex and how many

2:26:18 ↗ com how many tenants gonna have two cars

2:26:21 ↗ well

2:26:22 ↗ sir you know if we if we start

2:26:24 ↗ questioning the conventional wisdom of

2:26:26 ↗ our laws and try to say i don't agree

2:26:28 ↗ with this i'm not gonna do this then

2:26:30 ↗ we're gonna be a lawless nation i think

2:26:33 ↗ we have to respect our elected officials

2:26:35 ↗ we have to respect the process we have

2:26:38 ↗ to respect our staff

2:26:40 ↗ they've done the best we can now if it's

2:26:42 ↗ something we do not agree with that's

2:26:44 ↗ fine we have to go to the process and

2:26:47 ↗ get those laws changed but

2:26:50 ↗ you come in

2:26:52 ↗ crashing on me it's not fair you know

2:26:53 ↗ i'm your neighbor i want you to know

2:26:55 ↗ this i understand i have respect for you

2:26:57 ↗ and i i respect i like it get someone

2:27:00 ↗ from from youtube please you know i know

2:27:02 ↗ you are but let's just let's sit down

2:27:04 ↗ and talk about this what is it i've done

2:27:06 ↗ wrong for following the code you tell me

2:27:09 ↗ no i can't argue with that but i cannot

2:27:11 ↗ i can state

2:27:12 ↗ when we put it in place what are we

2:27:14 ↗ going to do with extra cars yeah well if

2:27:17 ↗ i would do everything within my power to

2:27:20 ↗ mitigate that situation ever comes up

2:27:22 ↗ i'm a very hands-on i think you can tell

2:27:24 ↗ by now i'm not like my neighbors who

2:27:27 ↗ built and sold out and get out for a fee

2:27:29 ↗ no i will be here for a long time you'll

2:27:32 ↗ meet me i'm going to be working every

2:27:34 ↗ day seven days a week you'll meet me

2:27:36 ↗ there thank you

2:27:38 ↗ thanks is there anyone else in the room

2:27:40 ↗ who would like to speak tonight

2:27:44 ↗ hearing none we'll close the discussion

2:27:46 ↗ for the room is there anyone else online

2:27:48 ↗ with skeezy yes we have two individuals

2:27:50 ↗ uh mary lynch and carolyn mel i will

2:27:53 ↗ move you both up

2:27:55 ↗ and we'll start with uh mary

2:28:01 ↗ mary you have the floor

2:28:04 ↗ okay this is mary lynch

2:28:06 ↗ and i live in the newport way area and i

2:28:10 ↗ also am a mechanical engineer by degree

2:28:13 ↗ i worked with the cascade green building

2:28:15 ↗ council

2:28:17 ↗ i also was on the original and the redo

2:28:20 ↗ of the village or of the central area

2:28:22 ↗ plan so i'm quite familiar with the

2:28:24 ↗ village residential

2:28:26 ↗ part of our vision there was to have a

2:28:29 ↗ less dense than downtown

2:28:32 ↗ area and that's why the the density was

2:28:34 ↗ such but part of the whole plan was to

2:28:36 ↗ have mixed use

2:28:38 ↗ so that people who lived out here in the

2:28:40 ↗ dense areas didn't have to get in their

2:28:42 ↗ cars and drive to town

2:28:45 ↗ because the city

2:28:47 ↗ and metro have no plans to put any bus

2:28:50 ↗ systems along newport way which is a

2:28:53 ↗ major or minor arterial um

2:28:56 ↗ with cars normally going over 40 miles

2:28:59 ↗ an hour even though there's a speed

2:29:01 ↗ limit of 30.

2:29:03 ↗ and

2:29:04 ↗ so i want to first say that i respect

2:29:06 ↗ you know what's been presented tonight

2:29:08 ↗ and all but i think you also have to

2:29:10 ↗ listen to us who have worked closely

2:29:12 ↗ with developers over the years and also

2:29:14 ↗ have to live with the results of what

2:29:16 ↗ has happened

2:29:18 ↗ out here and we know that the codes are

2:29:21 ↗ not always correct

2:29:23 ↗ and that's why i would really appreciate

2:29:25 ↗ in writing to get

2:29:27 ↗ answers to the questions that i've

2:29:28 ↗ already sent in

2:29:30 ↗ on

2:29:31 ↗ delivery issues parking issues blocking

2:29:34 ↗ of newport weigh issues which we have

2:29:36 ↗ seen as a result of the developments out

2:29:39 ↗ here specifically with riva

2:29:42 ↗ that we've had with delivery issues and

2:29:44 ↗ so if i could get responses back to

2:29:46 ↗ those writing uh questions i'm not going

2:29:49 ↗ to go into those

2:29:50 ↗ but like i said and what kay was saying

2:29:52 ↗ is we were looking at mixed use so that

2:29:54 ↗ people and connie mentioned it too

2:29:56 ↗ so that people could recreate and stay

2:29:59 ↗ in the area

2:30:00 ↗ with this development i don't see any

2:30:03 ↗ outdoor release space if somebody had

2:30:05 ↗ children

2:30:06 ↗ and because of the economy you're going

2:30:08 ↗ to have a lot more people living in a

2:30:10 ↗ smaller

2:30:11 ↗ one bedroom with a child or two or

2:30:13 ↗ couples that are living and so they're

2:30:14 ↗ going to want a place to recreate and i

2:30:17 ↗ don't think uh paved pathway is really

2:30:20 ↗ that type of alternative so they are

2:30:23 ↗ going to be meandering into the other

2:30:25 ↗ neighborhoods and using those amenities

2:30:28 ↗ so i would like to see more on-site area

2:30:32 ↗ given consideration for children

2:30:35 ↗ also for visitors i don't see anything

2:30:37 ↗ you know to accommodate visitors to this

2:30:39 ↗ community

2:30:41 ↗ and um biking a lot of times the year is

2:30:44 ↗ not an option

2:30:46 ↗ this past winter and during the rainy

2:30:48 ↗ season walking in front of river and i

2:30:50 ↗ would encourage you to come let's have a

2:30:52 ↗ walk along newport way and experience

2:30:55 ↗ the new design the city designed for

2:30:58 ↗ newport way and it's not optional or

2:31:00 ↗ it's not uh

2:31:02 ↗ i would say it's not really

2:31:03 ↗ accommodating friendly and yes it's to

2:31:06 ↗ code

2:31:07 ↗ but if you're going to be a long time

2:31:09 ↗ owner i would hope that you would come

2:31:11 ↗ and experience and maybe improve on some

2:31:13 ↗ of that code um because you say now the

2:31:16 ↗ sight line is good but what if you go

2:31:19 ↗ ahead and plant the planter strips like

2:31:23 ↗ you say we have troubles right now

2:31:25 ↗ uh getting out of oak crest where the

2:31:27 ↗ city said that we'd have no problems

2:31:29 ↗ with their sight lines yet they didn't

2:31:32 ↗ finish the street wall off

2:31:35 ↗ and the least amount of weeds that grow

2:31:37 ↗ up on that patch with the city supposed

2:31:39 ↗ to maintain we don't have sight line out

2:31:41 ↗ of our um area

2:31:44 ↗ so there's issues like that with sight

2:31:46 ↗ lines that i don't think you've really

2:31:47 ↗ accounted for yet in some of your

2:31:49 ↗ studies

2:31:50 ↗ um black eyes

2:31:52 ↗ also with the the steepness of your hill

2:31:55 ↗ and with putting now a uh

2:31:58 ↗ raised walkway over right at that

2:32:00 ↗ intersection that you're talking that is

2:32:02 ↗ a high area for black eyes and i

2:32:05 ↗ actually in 2000 spun my s10 truck out

2:32:08 ↗ and right there where your property is

2:32:10 ↗ going because that was the only place in

2:32:13 ↗ the entire newport way strip that there

2:32:15 ↗ was black eyes and i came this well

2:32:18 ↗ below the speed limit around that corner

2:32:21 ↗ hit that black ice and spun out um and

2:32:24 ↗ down the hill with black ice this winter

2:32:27 ↗ the new roundabout there on uh

2:32:30 ↗ newport way

2:32:32 ↗ it was a bowling alley with pins flying

2:32:34 ↗ everywhere with cars with that the black

2:32:37 ↗ ice on um that new roundabout yeah it's

2:32:41 ↗ designed to code but real things happen

2:32:44 ↗ and that's what we would hope that you

2:32:46 ↗ would listen to our observations and not

2:32:49 ↗ just do to code but make your area a

2:32:52 ↗ true livable community that your

2:32:55 ↗ residents can get into town safely so

2:32:58 ↗ your residents can have places to park

2:33:01 ↗ your residence can have places to

2:33:03 ↗ deliver

2:33:04 ↗ and then during

2:33:06 ↗ the other thing that is really um i

2:33:09 ↗ would question is have you done the

2:33:11 ↗ studies for the ground and how is

2:33:13 ↗ construction going to happen because we

2:33:15 ↗ have over the last 15 20 years lived

2:33:18 ↗ through every construction project and

2:33:20 ↗ let me tell you with all the

2:33:22 ↗ the dirt leaving the properties

2:33:25 ↗ and new stuff coming in to compact the

2:33:27 ↗ ground down so you can do your proper

2:33:29 ↗ digs

2:33:30 ↗ the the piles being driven the

2:33:33 ↗ construction truck deliveries it's not

2:33:35 ↗ been fun living along newport way so

2:33:38 ↗ what are you going to do for nate to

2:33:39 ↗ your neighbors to mitigate and reduce

2:33:42 ↗ the impact on mary and i welcome our new

2:33:46 ↗ neighbors we're on next door and we

2:33:48 ↗ appreciate what we have mary this is

2:33:51 ↗ tisha

2:33:52 ↗ mary this is tisha

2:33:53 ↗ you've reached the end of the

2:33:55 ↗ five-minute comment period thank you

2:33:58 ↗ thank you uh our last the last

2:34:01 ↗ individual who's indicated a desire to

2:34:02 ↗ speak is carolyn mel carolyn i'm not

2:34:05 ↗ able to give you

2:34:06 ↗ video privileges but i will unmute you

2:34:09 ↗ now

2:34:10 ↗ me just a moment

2:34:16 ↗ you're unmuted

2:34:20 ↗ thank you um commission i appreciate

2:34:22 ↗ hussain's information tonight and i

2:34:24 ↗ appreciate all of the feedback given i

2:34:27 ↗ wanted to share a little bit about my

2:34:28 ↗ experience looking for a place to live

2:34:32 ↗ after selling my home of 25 years

2:34:35 ↗ i looked in a number of neighborhoods i

2:34:38 ↗ wanted to stay in the bellevue kirkland

2:34:41 ↗ redmond or issaquah area

2:34:45 ↗ newport hills was an area i was also

2:34:47 ↗ looking

2:34:48 ↗ and honestly

2:34:50 ↗ it was a challenge to find

2:34:53 ↗ anywhere to look to get an appointment

2:34:56 ↗ to find a location

2:34:59 ↗ to move with myself

2:35:01 ↗ my son and my pet

2:35:04 ↗ dog

2:35:07 ↗ i looked in issaquah and was so

2:35:09 ↗ disappointed because i do love to go

2:35:12 ↗ into issaquah i love the

2:35:14 ↗ the areas the gilman village and have

2:35:17 ↗ lots of fond memories going there

2:35:20 ↗ shopping there and um

2:35:23 ↗ was very disappointed to find that there

2:35:25 ↗ was really no place for me to go in

2:35:27 ↗ issaquah

2:35:29 ↗ i did eventually find a place but we do

2:35:32 ↗ have a crisis here and

2:35:35 ↗ the places and spaces available for

2:35:38 ↗ people who want to downsize

2:35:40 ↗ who are even trying to get started make

2:35:43 ↗ it virtually impossible to find a place

2:35:46 ↗ to live

2:35:47 ↗ it was to the point where i was looking

2:35:50 ↗ at the possibility of temporarily living

2:35:52 ↗ in a hotel until i could find a place

2:35:56 ↗ and so i would really ask the commission

2:35:59 ↗ to consider all of what has been said

2:36:01 ↗ here in making sure that you have

2:36:03 ↗ appropriate

2:36:05 ↗ use land use

2:36:07 ↗ mitigations were necessary because

2:36:10 ↗ being in bellevue there was a landslide

2:36:12 ↗ recently that

2:36:14 ↗ people lost their homes so yes it is

2:36:17 ↗ important to mitigate what mother nature

2:36:19 ↗ will do

2:36:20 ↗ but we also need to balance that

2:36:24 ↗ with places where people can live and

2:36:26 ↗ thrive

2:36:27 ↗ and honestly i'm disappointed that i

2:36:30 ↗ couldn't live in issaquah

2:36:32 ↗ so i would really ask that you would

2:36:35 ↗ consider

2:36:37 ↗ the

2:36:38 ↗ plans

2:36:40 ↗ make the necessary absolute minimum

2:36:42 ↗ changes necessary to put in a place so

2:36:45 ↗ people can call issaquah home

2:36:49 ↗ and that you would consider

2:36:51 ↗ following your own rules and plans that

2:36:55 ↗ you ask for developers to do

2:36:58 ↗ and working with communities i have been

2:37:00 ↗ in bellevue i have seen developers try

2:37:03 ↗ to rip off communities so i understand

2:37:07 ↗ the problems and the issues when a

2:37:09 ↗ developer comes in and the fears that

2:37:11 ↗ come with it i have opposed developers

2:37:13 ↗ before for safety issues for the

2:37:18 ↗ the mitigating issues as far as what are

2:37:20 ↗ you going to do with traffic what are

2:37:21 ↗ you going to do with sound uh high

2:37:24 ↗ traffic volumes create sound and cause

2:37:26 ↗ problems with stress

2:37:28 ↗ so

2:37:29 ↗ that all said

2:37:32 ↗ make place of issaquah a home where

2:37:35 ↗ people can thrive thank you

2:37:39 ↗ mrs geiser do we have anyone else signed

2:37:41 ↗ up to speak no

2:37:44 ↗ thank you we're going to close the

2:37:45 ↗ public comment portion of the meeting

2:37:47 ↗ now

2:37:49 ↗ thank you for all your comments and

2:37:50 ↗ questions and for being being willing to

2:37:52 ↗ come down and

2:37:54 ↗ put in your time tonight and give us

2:37:55 ↗ your views makes the process work thank

2:37:57 ↗ you

2:37:59 ↗ uh now we'll move on and open the floor

2:38:01 ↗ to the commissioners do any of the

2:38:02 ↗ commissioners have a question or comment

2:38:04 ↗ for the applicant

2:38:11 ↗ commissioner

2:38:12 ↗ well those last few public comments be

2:38:14 ↗ responded to tonight

2:38:16 ↗ excuse me we didn't get a response for

2:38:19 ↗ the last two

2:38:20 ↗ oh mr crumb did you want to yes i would

2:38:22 ↗ like to come in on that i didn't bring

2:38:24 ↗ it up i thought you're exhausted

2:38:26 ↗ sorry no didn't mean to cut your wife at

2:38:28 ↗ all thank you uh commissioner shore uh

2:38:30 ↗ there were a number of issues that came

2:38:32 ↗ up i think it was one was about the

2:38:34 ↗ mixed use

2:38:35 ↗ uh it's always nice to it's always we

2:38:37 ↗ always think that grass is greener

2:38:40 ↗ across the street the mixed use has a

2:38:43 ↗ can of worms with it too i think people

2:38:45 ↗ don't know that sometimes uh it could be

2:38:47 ↗ a restaurant it could be a fast food

2:38:49 ↗ place it could have a lot of traffic it

2:38:53 ↗ could have

2:38:54 ↗ transient

2:38:55 ↗ traffic

2:38:56 ↗ from elsewhere

2:38:58 ↗ they all have their own bag of

2:39:01 ↗ can of worms

2:39:03 ↗ when you have an apartment complex a new

2:39:05 ↗ one you're really limiting number of

2:39:08 ↗ people who traverse that area so there's

2:39:10 ↗ something to be said about that here uh

2:39:13 ↗ but the code uh it does not force the

2:39:16 ↗ the the the applicant to do one or

2:39:19 ↗ another is before us and i think that's

2:39:22 ↗ the way it should be

2:39:23 ↗ let the economy to decide

2:39:26 ↗ what is best for that area anytime a

2:39:28 ↗ government entity

2:39:30 ↗ chooses to

2:39:32 ↗ designate winners and losers on a

2:39:34 ↗ project the project is going to go to

2:39:36 ↗ decay government is good in regulating

2:39:39 ↗ let the choice be off the entrepreneur i

2:39:42 ↗ think that's what the city has done

2:39:44 ↗ justly and has done right there was

2:39:46 ↗ another question about the plantar

2:39:48 ↗ strips well the good stuff of issaquah

2:39:51 ↗ city they made very clear you cannot

2:39:53 ↗ plan anything in the side triangle not

2:39:56 ↗ even a tree

2:39:58 ↗ so we there's a strict standard you

2:40:00 ↗ can't plant anything

2:40:03 ↗ and

2:40:05 ↗ nothing that could grow above that

2:40:07 ↗ height and within three and a half to i

2:40:09 ↗ believe seven and a half feet is

2:40:11 ↗ forbidden so it should not be anything

2:40:13 ↗ in there nothing will grow

2:40:15 ↗ and we're gonna have some hedges below

2:40:17 ↗ that but those are gonna be cut like

2:40:19 ↗ boxwood there was the question about

2:40:21 ↗ neighborhood

2:40:23 ↗ uh

2:40:24 ↗ you know entertainment in the

2:40:25 ↗ neighborhood well we all actually have a

2:40:27 ↗ true block i gave you the the package is

2:40:30 ↗ a is a true block package

2:40:33 ↗ with artificial streams

2:40:36 ↗ with

2:40:37 ↗ educational signs about

2:40:40 ↗ life cycle of fish that different birds

2:40:43 ↗ the environment is meant to bring

2:40:46 ↗ the environment and the community

2:40:48 ↗ together now when i say community i

2:40:50 ↗ don't mean the moana community this

2:40:52 ↗ belongs the whole neighborhood i would

2:40:54 ↗ like you to come and walk the property i

2:40:57 ↗ would like to meet every one of you

2:40:59 ↗ i am your friend i'm not an enemy i'm

2:41:02 ↗ here to serve the community i think

2:41:04 ↗ there was a little bit about visitors

2:41:07 ↗ about parking for visitors we currently

2:41:10 ↗ meet code and i will promise i will work

2:41:12 ↗ with you

2:41:13 ↗ to see

2:41:14 ↗ what will happen if there's a case of

2:41:16 ↗ overflow we have neighboring properties

2:41:19 ↗ and they i understand they could have

2:41:22 ↗ overflows too so maybe we can take turns

2:41:24 ↗ maybe we can direct our traffic to go to

2:41:27 ↗ neighbor and property

2:41:28 ↗ and there's come to ours at the time

2:41:30 ↗ overflow so there is a solution to these

2:41:33 ↗ things here we don't have to freeze

2:41:35 ↗ progress a modernity as a fear

2:41:38 ↗ of a negative side effect of something

2:41:40 ↗ could happen occasionally there was a

2:41:43 ↗ question about construction activity

2:41:45 ↗ why code we required to address all

2:41:48 ↗ construction activity the traffic uh in

2:41:51 ↗ and out the hours the kind of vehicles

2:41:54 ↗ uh there was there was mention of uh

2:41:56 ↗ driving piles uh we're not driving piles

2:41:59 ↗ here we're doing ground improvements

2:42:01 ↗ there's no impact associated with ground

2:42:04 ↗ improvements uh not not heavy impacts so

2:42:07 ↗ basically a stone column that goes in

2:42:10 ↗ and creates friction and it allows the

2:42:12 ↗ mass of the building to rest on that

2:42:16 ↗ and uh i hope i answered them all but i

2:42:19 ↗ would love to meet you ma'am uh let's go

2:42:21 ↗ over these things with you offline there

2:42:24 ↗ is a way we can all work together

2:42:28 ↗ to satisfy the need so as long as we try

2:42:31 ↗ to respect the future generations and

2:42:33 ↗ those people uh before us make that

2:42:36 ↗ decision for you to live in issaquah

2:42:39 ↗ because they cleared out hell that you

2:42:41 ↗ live in they made that road so let's

2:42:43 ↗ have that courtesy for the next

2:42:45 ↗ generation of people to enjoy those

2:42:48 ↗ beauties that brought you to israel the

2:42:50 ↗ first place

2:42:52 ↗ thank you

2:42:54 ↗ any other questions or comments

2:42:56 ↗ commissioners

2:43:00 ↗ commission commissioner dillon

2:43:06 ↗ thank you um i have a question about the

2:43:10 ↗ um the stream buffer and and the pathway

2:43:13 ↗ that you've got in there so it looks

2:43:14 ↗ like

2:43:15 ↗ the reduction in the buffer is is that

2:43:18 ↗ you're getting as a credit for removing

2:43:20 ↗ the the existing impervious area

2:43:24 ↗ is actually going to be filled by

2:43:26 ↗ another impervious surface and if i'm

2:43:28 ↗ reading the plans right the intent is

2:43:31 ↗ to fully disperse the runoff from that

2:43:33 ↗ path

2:43:34 ↗ on the site and

2:43:37 ↗ i i would encourage you to

2:43:40 ↗ do to look into the soils and whether

2:43:42 ↗ they'll be receptive dispersion works

2:43:45 ↗ great as a treatment where it works but

2:43:46 ↗ it could actually create a bunch a lot

2:43:49 ↗ of runoff over the surface of the site

2:43:51 ↗ if it isn't working correctly

2:43:53 ↗ may i respond mr chair please uh

2:43:57 ↗ we are reducing buffer and we are they

2:44:00 ↗ they change ratio between what we are

2:44:03 ↗ removing and what we're adding is fairly

2:44:06 ↗ significant the removal is much more

2:44:08 ↗ it's about 8 000 square feet if i'm not

2:44:10 ↗ mistaken we're an added about 4 500 or

2:44:13 ↗ so now off of that 4 500 we're adding we

2:44:17 ↗ actually that's area called the true

2:44:19 ↗ block traffic is gravel it's i'm not an

2:44:22 ↗ expert maybe you have to revert to my

2:44:26 ↗ civil engineer to respond to that it's

2:44:28 ↗ gravel

2:44:29 ↗ and is meant to perhaps is a lot better

2:44:32 ↗ than a concrete i do understand it's

2:44:35 ↗ still impervious as defined by the code

2:44:37 ↗ am i correct sir

2:44:39 ↗ yes it is imperious but it is

2:44:42 ↗ it's not human waste it's not garage

2:44:45 ↗ it's not petroleum products so yes

2:44:48 ↗ there's an improvement and the thing is

2:44:50 ↗ we are acting within confines of the

2:44:52 ↗ code

2:44:54 ↗ it's uh

2:44:55 ↗ i want to be honest with you these

2:44:57 ↗ developments are expensive uh

2:45:00 ↗ candid with you

2:45:02 ↗ city wants me to redo the entire road on

2:45:05 ↗ both sides it's unusual to do

2:45:08 ↗ the other side they want it you get it

2:45:11 ↗ uh city wants to meet to do street

2:45:14 ↗ lights on both sides it's unusual to do

2:45:16 ↗ streets signs on both sides you usually

2:45:18 ↗ do with your side but i have to do the

2:45:20 ↗ other side that's fine i knew that going

2:45:22 ↗ into this thing here that's a that's a

2:45:25 ↗ over half a million dollar bill uh the

2:45:28 ↗ this call is very expensive in terms of

2:45:30 ↗ the

2:45:32 ↗ uh you know uh impacts it's very high so

2:45:36 ↗ at the end of the day it's

2:45:38 ↗ i've got to be able to pay these things

2:45:40 ↗ i just want to be honest to deal

2:45:42 ↗ i'm doing the best i can

2:45:44 ↗ have a lot of headwind

2:45:46 ↗ but i work with my neighbors i work with

2:45:48 ↗ them i try to understand the point of

2:45:50 ↗ views and listen to them as much as i

2:45:53 ↗ can to address their concerns

2:45:56 ↗ yeah thank you for that and i looking at

2:45:58 ↗ the planting plan i see that there is

2:46:00 ↗ likely to be a net benefit to that

2:46:03 ↗ buffer i would just encourage you to

2:46:04 ↗ look into that drainage

2:46:06 ↗ there and make sure that what you are

2:46:08 ↗ expecting to happen is is reasonable for

2:46:11 ↗ the site thank you

2:46:14 ↗ commissioner cada did you have a

2:46:15 ↗ question i believe i do have a question

2:46:18 ↗ uh johnny um on your

2:46:21 ↗ this is kind of a basic question on your

2:46:23 ↗ design as far as the site goes

2:46:26 ↗ looking at the buffer area where the

2:46:27 ↗ wetlands are is

2:46:29 ↗ has have you coordinated with the fire

2:46:31 ↗ department for access it's a it's a it's

2:46:33 ↗ a seven story building you have to have

2:46:35 ↗ a ladder truck and i don't know if you

2:46:37 ↗ have you can get hose lays back there or

2:46:39 ↗ access absolutely thanks to our great

2:46:42 ↗ staff from day one we've been doing that

2:46:45 ↗ yes i've shown that the site plans and i

2:46:49 ↗ i work with east side fire and the staff

2:46:52 ↗ have done that so those issues been

2:46:54 ↗ addressed

2:46:55 ↗ but if it's any issue respect to code

2:46:58 ↗ that we've missed

2:47:00 ↗ we will work on it and we will solve it

2:47:03 ↗ yes we were thinking about putting a

2:47:05 ↗ roof deck up on the top of the roof as a

2:47:08 ↗ community space the fire department

2:47:10 ↗ stated there's none as too high it will

2:47:13 ↗ it's not is beyond their reach of their

2:47:16 ↗ ladders and

2:47:17 ↗ they cannot protect it safely so we gave

2:47:20 ↗ that up

2:47:21 ↗ now instead we put solar collectors

2:47:23 ↗ which i think is a better deal i think

2:47:24 ↗ at the day's end if we work together

2:47:27 ↗ we can do a great project and a great

2:47:30 ↗ great product if you all collectively

2:47:32 ↗ work together including working with

2:47:34 ↗ east side fire

2:47:36 ↗ so just for clarity on the

2:47:38 ↗ side opposite of your access road

2:47:40 ↗ there is fire department the fire

2:47:42 ↗ department has concurred with how they

2:47:43 ↗ would approach to be exact on this i

2:47:47 ↗ gave the the the the last plan i ran

2:47:50 ↗ above eastside fire i talked to a very

2:47:53 ↗ fine gentleman forgot his name ascending

2:47:55 ↗ the plans we do have uh not our

2:47:59 ↗ egress have moved and by the way we

2:48:01 ↗ haven't we have an easement with the

2:48:04 ↗ neighboring properties for that uh

2:48:06 ↗ within the easement agreement uh there

2:48:08 ↗ is a there's a stated that uh that if

2:48:11 ↗ there's a conflict to the law this is

2:48:13 ↗ gonna have to move something along those

2:48:14 ↗ lines is provided to do that however i'm

2:48:17 ↗ going to them i provided in the revised

2:48:19 ↗ easement which was based on 25

2:48:23 ↗ wetland buffer and but not that that had

2:48:26 ↗ changed as of just last week a few days

2:48:28 ↗ ago i told them stop we want to do this

2:48:31 ↗ over we're going to do the 15 buffer i

2:48:33 ↗ still need to send that to the fire

2:48:37 ↗ department we haven't done that yet

2:48:40 ↗ i will send it to them yes it needs to

2:48:42 ↗ confirm but looking at the alignment

2:48:45 ↗ i don't see any issue because it it goes

2:48:48 ↗ straight we're relying on the hammerhead

2:48:50 ↗ at the neighboring property

2:48:53 ↗ that that's always been the case so

2:48:56 ↗ from what i can tell is good but at the

2:48:57 ↗ end of the day

2:48:59 ↗ we cannot build i cannot get approval

2:49:01 ↗ for what it does not need code if it

2:49:04 ↗ meets code and

2:49:06 ↗ everybody is happy then i can proceed

2:49:09 ↗ uh one other follow-up is sort of a

2:49:12 ↗ different pivot to construction

2:49:13 ↗ activities you have about a 22-foot

2:49:16 ↗ cut next to newport way

2:49:18 ↗ and and you have the snyder stream there

2:49:20 ↗ so i'm assuming there's it's high water

2:49:22 ↗ table now you don't have any geotech yet

2:49:25 ↗ but uh i i'd anticipate some dewatering

2:49:28 ↗ issues that you'll have to address and

2:49:30 ↗ that's a concern and also slope

2:49:32 ↗ stability a long new part way just an

2:49:34 ↗ item note

2:49:36 ↗ yes we have to uh we have to do h piles

2:49:39 ↗ we have to do shorey along newport way

2:49:41 ↗ that's the must-do

2:49:43 ↗ in fact our

2:49:45 ↗ geotech is on board he's listening to

2:49:47 ↗ this

2:49:48 ↗ we we have not finalized a geotech

2:49:50 ↗ report because the finalized geotech

2:49:53 ↗ report need to be in conjunction with

2:49:55 ↗ the work of the structural engineer they

2:49:57 ↗ need to work hand and glove together and

2:49:59 ↗ you cannot bring the structural engineer

2:50:01 ↗ on board till you have a exact building

2:50:04 ↗ footprint the way structural engineers

2:50:06 ↗ work

2:50:07 ↗ they get this footprint and they run

2:50:09 ↗ and if you

2:50:11 ↗ don't have your footprint right you pay

2:50:13 ↗ twice so

2:50:14 ↗ i'm expecting it to bring it on board

2:50:16 ↗ probably next week

2:50:18 ↗ and all those issues will be resolved

2:50:21 ↗ and answered that's our hope

2:50:25 ↗ thank you thank you sir

2:50:33 ↗ commissioner

2:50:35 ↗ uh one

2:50:36 ↗ i have a few questions this one is just

2:50:38 ↗ clarification i think

2:50:40 ↗ some of the public may not have seen

2:50:43 ↗ the second package we got is that

2:50:46 ↗ correct

2:50:47 ↗ um so i believe the community space

2:50:50 ↗ requirement is now met is that correct

2:50:53 ↗ well uh yes the second package is what

2:50:56 ↗ basically i showed you

2:50:58 ↗ this has been a work in progress and

2:51:00 ↗ staffing very cooperative with me here

2:51:02 ↗ that provided me feedback and what i've

2:51:04 ↗ done wrong and the moment i found out

2:51:07 ↗ well immediately moved to correct them

2:51:09 ↗ the second package it was about the

2:51:11 ↗ buffer the wetland buffer being

2:51:13 ↗ incorrect at 25 percent is 15

2:51:16 ↗ that's basically cuts across a quarter

2:51:19 ↗ roughly about seven and a half feet

2:51:21 ↗ it extend the buffer seven and a half

2:51:23 ↗ feet cut into the building seven and a

2:51:24 ↗ half feet also we had we just learned

2:51:27 ↗ about a couple days ago about the uh

2:51:31 ↗ might have been a week ago about the the

2:51:34 ↗ setbacks from the detention vault

2:51:37 ↗ needing to be 20 feet from the building

2:51:39 ↗ and 20 feet from the property line so

2:51:42 ↗ that

2:51:43 ↗ resulted us cutting into the building to

2:51:45 ↗ the north side

2:51:47 ↗ which i gave you was the cutoff building

2:51:49 ↗ what i showed you today is show how it

2:51:51 ↗ was cut so we still need to refine those

2:51:54 ↗ things we hope to do that next few days

2:51:56 ↗ we need to move aggressively to address

2:51:59 ↗ all these issues i need to con i need to

2:52:01 ↗ contact my neighbors to work with them i

2:52:04 ↗ really want them on board i'm going to

2:52:06 ↗ be living in that neighborhood uh not

2:52:08 ↗ living working in the neighborhood i'm

2:52:10 ↗ going to work off that office

2:52:12 ↗ i want them to be happy with me

2:52:14 ↗ i don't want to feed them something

2:52:15 ↗ they're not happy and if we're going to

2:52:17 ↗ do something i want them to understand

2:52:19 ↗ why we're doing this the way we are

2:52:23 ↗ so so did the public area increase oh

2:52:26 ↗ i'm sorry just too many questions my

2:52:28 ↗ apologies here the uh

2:52:31 ↗ the

2:52:32 ↗ we are adding a area roughly i don't

2:52:35 ↗ know the numbers right everything's

2:52:37 ↗ fluid right now in to the north of the

2:52:40 ↗ building so that would be i'm guessing

2:52:42 ↗ roughly about 2 000 square feet now we

2:52:45 ↗ do have the community space and staff

2:52:47 ↗ who correct me if i'm wrong that the

2:52:50 ↗ true blog could be considered as part of

2:52:52 ↗ the community space

2:52:54 ↗ provided is is accessible

2:52:57 ↗ am i right um

2:53:01 ↗ no

2:53:02 ↗ whatever it is we'll fix it so

2:53:04 ↗ it's just

2:53:05 ↗ this is that you know we've gone through

2:53:07 ↗ hundreds of revisions this is another

2:53:09 ↗ one so

2:53:10 ↗ now that we actually cut to the north

2:53:12 ↗ end of the building here we've come came

2:53:14 ↗ up roughly about 2 000 square feet i'm

2:53:16 ↗ just guessing right off the path so

2:53:19 ↗ that'll get us closer and whatever we

2:53:21 ↗ need to add we can add inside the

2:53:23 ↗ building we have to meet the code we

2:53:26 ↗ have to meet the community space

2:53:27 ↗ requirements and i believe we have it at

2:53:30 ↗ our grasp i don't know exactly how it's

2:53:32 ↗ going to work out i'll probably go next

2:53:34 ↗ week okay

2:53:37 ↗ on your other properties have you had

2:53:40 ↗ any similar parking issues you've had to

2:53:42 ↗ mitigate is there any

2:53:44 ↗ anything you've done

2:53:46 ↗ you know

2:53:48 ↗ every every property is different this

2:53:51 ↗ property is unique

2:53:52 ↗ in my view because the units are smaller

2:53:55 ↗ i think you're dealing with a lot of

2:53:57 ↗ younger demographics

2:54:00 ↗ i use

2:54:01 ↗ my own kid

2:54:02 ↗ i got a son

2:54:04 ↗ who

2:54:05 ↗ just graduated a little while back in

2:54:06 ↗ attack he just doesn't use his car he

2:54:09 ↗ leaves his car home with us

2:54:11 ↗ and he basically lives in an apartment

2:54:14 ↗ because parking is very expensive so

2:54:16 ↗ there are ways that we can mitigate that

2:54:18 ↗ situation if we see

2:54:20 ↗ if we see a a challenge

2:54:23 ↗ with providing we just raise the price

2:54:26 ↗ and we'll provide an opportunity for

2:54:28 ↗ people to park elsewhere at parents home

2:54:30 ↗ no i thought about this issue there is a

2:54:33 ↗ lot right on newport way by downtown by

2:54:37 ↗ sr 900 i met the owner i think he uses

2:54:40 ↗ that place as a as a lot so maybe i can

2:54:44 ↗ strike a deal with him for residents who

2:54:46 ↗ have cars to park there i if it's

2:54:48 ↗ allowed by the code but that's just so

2:54:51 ↗ there are different ways we're doing it

2:54:53 ↗ those are all in the working

2:54:55 ↗ bottom line is we will meet code and i

2:54:58 ↗ want to go beyond the code and satisfy

2:55:01 ↗ my neighbor's desires

2:55:02 ↗ what it will be exactly i don't know i

2:55:05 ↗ hope to figure those things out the next

2:55:07 ↗ few weeks

2:55:08 ↗ is could parking be paid or reserved or

2:55:11 ↗ is that part of your plan the parking is

2:55:13 ↗ paid okay people have to pay to use the

2:55:15 ↗ parking and we'll make it very clear now

2:55:18 ↗ in in some other properties that we have

2:55:20 ↗ you brought a good point i'm sorry i

2:55:22 ↗ answered so many things and i love

2:55:23 ↗ talking i just miss stuff in the

2:55:25 ↗ translation

2:55:27 ↗ we did have some issues like this yes so

2:55:29 ↗ what we did before he came up we

2:55:32 ↗ actually talked with the city neighbors

2:55:33 ↗ had concerns we put no parking signs in

2:55:36 ↗ a neighborhood

2:55:38 ↗ the parking sites were installed so that

2:55:41 ↗ the residents would not park there and

2:55:43 ↗ that's that was the solution to that so

2:55:45 ↗ it's not a

2:55:47 ↗ it's not a

2:55:48 ↗ just it's not a it's not it's nothing

2:55:50 ↗ impossible we cannot solve if you see a

2:55:53 ↗ pattern of people parking elsewhere

2:55:55 ↗ they're not supposed to we just put no

2:55:57 ↗ parking signs or put

2:55:59 ↗ parking by permit and the private would

2:56:02 ↗ be limited to people who live in that

2:56:04 ↗ street

2:56:05 ↗ anybody else parked there get ticketed

2:56:07 ↗ and towed

2:56:08 ↗ we've done this and it was successful it

2:56:10 ↗ worked

2:56:16 ↗ commissioner brandon i think you had

2:56:17 ↗ your hand up at almost the same time

2:56:20 ↗ thank you mr chair uh mr crum

2:56:22 ↗ some questions around what's going on

2:56:24 ↗ with the ground at the ground floor

2:56:26 ↗ so i believe the code requires a 12

2:56:29 ↗ minimum 12 foot floor to floor on the

2:56:31 ↗ first floor can you talk a little bit

2:56:33 ↗ about

2:56:34 ↗ plans for use of the first floor what

2:56:36 ↗ are the

2:56:37 ↗ opportunities there and a bit about the

2:56:40 ↗ facade of the building and the

2:56:42 ↗ pedestrian experience because there are

2:56:44 ↗ requirements about

2:56:46 ↗ um kind of recessing

2:56:48 ↗ segments of the building to articulate

2:56:50 ↗ the experience

2:56:51 ↗ etc so

2:56:53 ↗ primarily interested along newport way

2:56:56 ↗ uh and what that will

2:56:58 ↗ what the experience will be like for the

2:56:59 ↗ pedestrian and what's going on inside

2:57:01 ↗ the building right and i think that the

2:57:04 ↗ the the the the intent of the code is to

2:57:06 ↗ bring life to the street and that's what

2:57:09 ↗ we followed i think it's a great idea a

2:57:11 ↗ lot of communities are doing that uh the

2:57:14 ↗ uh the

2:57:16 ↗ the main street uh the newport way will

2:57:19 ↗ have a small yard in front of the units

2:57:22 ↗ and there would be residences there uh

2:57:24 ↗ so they would actually be able to

2:57:27 ↗ uh integrate to with a street and the

2:57:31 ↗ environment there of course we want to

2:57:33 ↗ make it safe so there would be you know

2:57:36 ↗ things that we can do to make sure it's

2:57:38 ↗ safe but that would be the idea to

2:57:41 ↗ integrate the community is a code

2:57:43 ↗ requirement

2:57:44 ↗ that's why it's zero to 15 feet the

2:57:47 ↗ intent of the code is to bring occupancy

2:57:50 ↗ to the road to make it a walk-in

2:57:53 ↗ viking living community all combined and

2:57:57 ↗ we're following that now

2:58:02 ↗ if i missed anything that just

2:58:04 ↗ so is there any um thinking about

2:58:08 ↗ any retail use coffee shop uh

2:58:11 ↗ in the building yeah yeah i i understand

2:58:14 ↗ the you know i

2:58:16 ↗ i i

2:58:18 ↗ you know i've never done retail in my

2:58:20 ↗ life i i just haven't and the people who

2:58:23 ↗ have have not been happy with what

2:58:25 ↗ they've done

2:58:26 ↗ it's uh

2:58:27 ↗ they tell me in apartment living it's

2:58:29 ↗ difficult to make the to live together

2:58:31 ↗ there are times and places you can do

2:58:33 ↗ that in very urban environments

2:58:36 ↗ where you have a lot of traffic but

2:58:38 ↗ usually with places of medium density

2:58:40 ↗ and a traffic at this nature they're

2:58:42 ↗ just not compatible and the reason is

2:58:44 ↗ just make it real simple just imagine

2:58:47 ↗ yourself living above one of those

2:58:49 ↗ apartments uh one of those retail spaces

2:58:52 ↗ here you you smell the food

2:58:54 ↗ you have the traffic and the traffic is

2:58:56 ↗ different kind of traffic from your own

2:58:58 ↗ neighbors traffic it could be anyone

2:59:00 ↗ and when you open in your community to

2:59:03 ↗ anybody traffic you get all kinds of

2:59:05 ↗ negative side effects

2:59:06 ↗ from burglary from all kinds of things

2:59:09 ↗ could happen so it's a very

2:59:12 ↗ it's a very urban it's a very urban i

2:59:14 ↗ know some of the people brought it up

2:59:15 ↗ here and i think they they really need

2:59:18 ↗ to understand a little more what does a

2:59:22 ↗ transient traffic look like and what it

2:59:24 ↗ could look like and what kind of people

2:59:25 ↗ would bring in maybe next time we go to

2:59:28 ↗ a gas station just look around and see

2:59:30 ↗ what you get

2:59:32 ↗ that's what we could get on that and

2:59:34 ↗ in fact what happened last night i just

2:59:36 ↗ wanted to i was walking at the gas

2:59:38 ↗ station i saw a a a car because we need

2:59:42 ↗ to have a roof in one of our properties

2:59:44 ↗ i took a picture of this car and

2:59:46 ↗ apparently there was a gentleman in

2:59:47 ↗ there in the gas station he got offended

2:59:50 ↗ he came to me and said what are you

2:59:51 ↗ doing i said sir i took a picture from

2:59:53 ↗ this car so i mean you do get all kinds

2:59:56 ↗ of people

2:59:57 ↗ who

2:59:58 ↗ neighborhood may not like him very much

3:00:02 ↗ did i ask you a question sarah that's

3:00:04 ↗ fine thank you thank you

3:00:08 ↗ commissioner morgan

3:00:11 ↗ uh thank you chair sanford and thank you

3:00:13 ↗ um

3:00:14 ↗ for coming in tonight and all the

3:00:16 ↗ presentation and

3:00:18 ↗ all the people that attended the meeting

3:00:20 ↗ as well um

3:00:22 ↗ a few questions but a lot of them

3:00:23 ↗ already been asked so the one comment i

3:00:25 ↗ do have about the project the suggestion

3:00:27 ↗ with regard to the design

3:00:29 ↗ i think the most important view of this

3:00:31 ↗ is going to be driving down newport way

3:00:34 ↗ and i know the building is following the

3:00:37 ↗ design guidelines

3:00:39 ↗ as

3:00:40 ↗ following like the coleman building

3:00:42 ↗ [Music]

3:00:43 ↗ but that facade is is a fairly blank

3:00:45 ↗ facade and one of the things in the

3:00:47 ↗ design code is to avoid blank walls

3:00:50 ↗ i think it would help a lot to provide

3:00:52 ↗ some canopies along the

3:00:55 ↗ ground floor level along newport way

3:00:58 ↗ both to break up some weather protection

3:01:00 ↗ but also to break up that horizontal

3:01:02 ↗ wall because right now a lot of those

3:01:03 ↗ views on newport are going to look like

3:01:04 ↗ a very solid blank 250-foot wall

3:01:08 ↗ going down that street which i think we

3:01:10 ↗ want to avoid i welcome that yeah sure i

3:01:13 ↗ agree i think that might have been

3:01:16 ↗ commissioner brandon that might have

3:01:17 ↗ been your question i or somebody else's

3:01:19 ↗ i missed it i'm sorry yes i would work

3:01:21 ↗ for my community and in fact the staff

3:01:23 ↗ brought that up there was some write-up

3:01:26 ↗ red lines on the the building facade

3:01:28 ↗ yeah that's just it's not a problem

3:01:31 ↗ i don't know exactly what the the red

3:01:33 ↗ lines were but whatever it is we'll fix

3:01:35 ↗ if you feel that there's there are the

3:01:37 ↗ things that we should do those are easy

3:01:39 ↗ to do here

3:01:40 ↗ is is easy to satisfy and make your

3:01:43 ↗ building happy is more difficult to make

3:01:45 ↗ the neighbors happy but i work on both i

3:01:47 ↗ promise you this thank you

3:01:51 ↗ anything else commissioners

3:01:58 ↗ this is it so this is a questionable

3:02:00 ↗ comment period

3:02:03 ↗ okay

3:02:04 ↗ please

3:02:05 ↗ um

3:02:06 ↗ so

3:02:07 ↗ overall i think the project

3:02:09 ↗ improves the buffer habitat and the site

3:02:14 ↗ i think for parking i i understand

3:02:18 ↗ that you're planning to follow the code

3:02:20 ↗ um but i'd ask you to consider the

3:02:22 ↗ surrounding area

3:02:24 ↗ and just do anything you can

3:02:27 ↗ um

3:02:28 ↗ i i do not support

3:02:30 ↗ a change to the buffer reduction

3:02:31 ↗ requirements i think it should be kept

3:02:33 ↗ at 15. i mean as you've said many times

3:02:36 ↗ the code is the code

3:02:38 ↗ and we should follow it

3:02:39 ↗ um it was an intentional decision

3:02:42 ↗ um i do like the raised intersection i

3:02:45 ↗ think that will help calm traffic

3:02:48 ↗ and

3:02:49 ↗ um

3:02:51 ↗ a follow-up on commissioner dillon's

3:02:54 ↗ comment on the path i know there are

3:02:56 ↗ some pervious systems that maybe could

3:02:59 ↗ be used

3:03:01 ↗ i don't know if the soils support that

3:03:03 ↗ but that that might help things

3:03:06 ↗ that's all

3:03:07 ↗ okay

3:03:09 ↗ mr cherry may i ask a question

3:03:11 ↗ please or comment i just want to clarify

3:03:13 ↗ that you mentioned the buffer reduction

3:03:15 ↗ at 15. we are doing the 15 for the

3:03:18 ↗ wetland uh that's what's what's required

3:03:21 ↗ that's what we've missed yes i agree i

3:03:23 ↗ think and i think it should be kept

3:03:24 ↗ there there was just some there was just

3:03:26 ↗ some discussion of going backwards no no

3:03:28 ↗ we already changed our plans and really

3:03:30 ↗ was seven and a half feet and in fact uh

3:03:33 ↗ the the the the the our biologist was

3:03:37 ↗ sort of questioning there was a little

3:03:39 ↗ inconsistency in the code and that and

3:03:41 ↗ the uh in the imc and i said listen

3:03:44 ↗ just let's not go there

3:03:46 ↗ we're going to go 15 we're going to stay

3:03:48 ↗ with it don't just don't say it's not

3:03:51 ↗ clear just we don't have time to wait so

3:03:53 ↗ we're moving forward at 15

3:03:55 ↗ i know brad said earlier

3:03:58 ↗ i do not agree with him i'll change it

3:04:00 ↗ to 15. that's where we're going to be

3:04:06 ↗ one for you mr karam if i may

3:04:08 ↗ uh

3:04:09 ↗ on page 118 of our packet it says the

3:04:11 ↗ project is requesting approval for two

3:04:13 ↗ deviations from the city's street

3:04:15 ↗ standards

3:04:16 ↗ i think we've uh dealt with the site

3:04:19 ↗ distance requirement deviation correct

3:04:22 ↗ that's that's been corrected but it says

3:04:24 ↗ one to vary the typical section defined

3:04:27 ↗ for a local street

3:04:29 ↗ what's being referred to there do you

3:04:30 ↗ know i i would let the staff to comment

3:04:33 ↗ on that i think what the staff meant

3:04:36 ↗ from what i understand is the

3:04:38 ↗ uh the front edge for the road a

3:04:41 ↗ uh

3:04:42 ↗ what they what i think again i i i

3:04:46 ↗ correct me if i'm wrong

3:04:47 ↗ there's a road a which is right in front

3:04:50 ↗ of the building here we had i think like

3:04:52 ↗ a three foot strip up um

3:04:54 ↗ sidewalk there so that

3:04:57 ↗ that's that was there from beginning and

3:05:00 ↗ i i didn't at least i don't recall that

3:05:02 ↗ being brought up but now that we have to

3:05:05 ↗ cut the building back on the north side

3:05:08 ↗ we're picking up we have a 20 feet open

3:05:10 ↗ space give or take so we will actually

3:05:13 ↗ create a a very nice

3:05:16 ↗ you know um sidewalk planter maybe

3:05:19 ↗ sitting areas so i think that's what

3:05:22 ↗ they meant uh correct me if i'm wrong

3:05:25 ↗ but uh i think that issue is gone we

3:05:27 ↗ don't we do not ask for any more

3:05:28 ↗ deviation uh

3:05:30 ↗ but that i think that's what it's meant

3:05:32 ↗ to be which actually worked by itself it

3:05:34 ↗ just it just magically came along and it

3:05:36 ↗ worked just fine

3:05:38 ↗ okay uh staff

3:05:40 ↗ ms porter could you respond to that

3:05:41 ↗ thanks

3:05:43 ↗ so road a so all projects um within

3:05:45 ↗ central issaquah must either comply with

3:05:48 ↗ the road sections that are outlined in

3:05:50 ↗ the central issaquah development design

3:05:51 ↗ standards or street standards and the

3:05:54 ↗ road aid doesn't meet neither so staff

3:05:56 ↗ is saying that if you either need to

3:05:59 ↗ design to one of the road sections or

3:06:02 ↗ request an administrative adjustment of

3:06:04 ↗ standards

3:06:06 ↗ does that clear that up

3:06:07 ↗ yes and whatever we will not go down the

3:06:10 ↗ path of administrative standards i i

3:06:13 ↗ don't think we need to i think we will

3:06:15 ↗ design to the code whatever that is i

3:06:18 ↗ don't know exactly what that is we just

3:06:20 ↗ heard this uh we just maybe registered

3:06:23 ↗ with us just a little while back maybe

3:06:25 ↗ about a week ago whatever that is we

3:06:28 ↗ will fix it now we cut the building back

3:06:31 ↗ i think we have the room if we need to

3:06:33 ↗ cut back more we will

3:06:35 ↗ okay so it sounds like that request for

3:06:37 ↗ deviation is going to go away as well

3:06:38 ↗ yes no request for deviation no request

3:06:40 ↗ for administrative adjustment

3:06:42 ↗ we're going to follow code okay great

3:06:44 ↗ thank you

3:06:45 ↗ any other questions or comments from

3:06:47 ↗ development commission

3:06:51 ↗ thank you so development commission

3:06:53 ↗ comment closed for this evening and

3:06:54 ↗ thank you very much to our applicant and

3:06:57 ↗ to staff tonight

3:06:59 ↗ so we're at the point in the agenda now

3:07:01 ↗ uh the reports item i'd like to ask

3:07:03 ↗ staff to provide any updates on city

3:07:05 ↗ council

3:07:06 ↗ meetings or activities

3:07:10 ↗ no reports

3:07:12 ↗ thank you

3:07:14 ↗ is there any other item of business or

3:07:17 ↗ announcements from staff

3:07:19 ↗ on the agenda tonight

3:07:22 ↗ yeah just real quickly uh we are

3:07:24 ↗ recruiting for the planning manager

3:07:26 ↗ position

3:07:27 ↗ and we have interviews on the 15th so if

3:07:30 ↗ anyone has the time or the interest or

3:07:32 ↗ any questions or any anything you'd like

3:07:35 ↗ us to

3:07:36 ↗ because this is a position that is a

3:07:37 ↗ liaison for the development commission

3:07:40 ↗ we want to provide you an opportunity to

3:07:42 ↗ either participate in the interview

3:07:44 ↗ or um send us some questions you want us

3:07:47 ↗ to feel for or your any input you might

3:07:49 ↗ have so thank you for that great thank

3:07:52 ↗ you

3:07:54 ↗ there being no further business before

3:07:56 ↗ the commission this evening

3:07:58 ↗ this meeting is adjourned at 909 pm

3:08:00 ↗ thank you

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Ikeda

Morgan Absence: Commissioners Gilbert (Excused)

Price (Excused)

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