Development Commission · Wednesday, November 18, 2020 · City Council Digest

1. CALL TO ORDER

Commission Membership

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Staff report:

Development Commission About Staff Liaison Created in 1983, this commission reviews all land Lucy Sloman, use actions requiring a Level 3 review. The Land Development Manager Commission further serves as an advisory board Email to the City Council on land use actions requiring council approval (Level 5 review). Regular Members 2021* – Melvin Morgan The appearance of fairness doctrine prohibits 2021* – Kevin Price Development Commission members and City 2022 – Michael Brennan Council members from discussing the merit of 2022 – Richard Sowa specific land use development applications outside 2022 – Richard Sanford of the formal public meeting process. Citizens, 2023 – Patty Dillon however, may discuss any issue with the City's 2023 – Brooke Shore Development Services Department. Written comments are also welcome. Alternate Members Membership 2022 – Jon Ikeda The Development Commission is…

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of October 7, 2020

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 10-07-20 Joint Development Commission & Page [0000] Planning Policy Commission Special Minutes

3. AGENDA ITEMS

Development Commission (DC) Get Acquainted Event, (D) structure of the City after, and at the DC

Lucy Sloman, Land Development Manager

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5. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

The next meeting is scheduled for Dec. 2

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0:00 ↗ and appreciate the technology richard i

0:03 ↗ think you need to give tim a heads up in

0:04 ↗ ten seconds

0:06 ↗ okay the tv guy okay

0:09 ↗ we're going to get started in 10 9

0:12 ↗ 8 7 6 five

0:16 ↗ four three two one

0:20 ↗ all right i think i think we're started

0:22 ↗ now thanks for that reminder

0:24 ↗ kevin so is that good enough

0:27 ↗ that's good enough we uh welcome

0:30 ↗ everybody

0:31 ↗ uh this is going to be a pretty informal

0:33 ↗ meet and greet but we do have some

0:35 ↗ official business we have

0:37 ↗ uh approval of the minutes of our

0:40 ↗ october 7th 2020 meeting

0:42 ↗ and i'm going to make the assumption

0:45 ↗ that people have had the opportunity to

0:46 ↗ read those minutes and so i will ask if

0:48 ↗ anybody has any corrections or changes

0:50 ↗ to those minutes

0:57 ↗ hearing hearing none uh we're going to

1:00 ↗ uh

1:01 ↗ administratively approve the minutes uh

1:03 ↗ without further discussion

1:05 ↗ so now uh the next agenda item is the

1:09 ↗ get acquainted part and lucy i think

1:12 ↗ you're it or

1:13 ↗ am i missing this no you're you're

1:16 ↗ absolutely right

1:17 ↗ um good evening chairperson soa

1:20 ↗ i am lucy sloman land development

1:22 ↗ manager

1:24 ↗ and um tonight we are joined by our two

1:27 ↗ new

1:28 ↗ uh commission members uh patty dillon

1:31 ↗ would you raise your hand teddy thank

1:33 ↗ you and

1:34 ↗ john ikeda did i say that correctly john

1:38 ↗ yeah you got it okay excellent

1:42 ↗ um and the um purpose of tonight's

1:45 ↗ um meeting is to get to know each other

1:47 ↗ so we'll do

1:48 ↗ some introductions uh hopefully it will

1:51 ↗ be fun

1:52 ↗ and then i will discuss some things

1:55 ↗ about the um

1:58 ↗ commission how it fits into the city's

2:01 ↗ organizational structure the kinds of

2:03 ↗ permits that come

2:04 ↗ how that that works um and

2:08 ↗ some other business and such

2:12 ↗ if there are questions um i'm not

2:16 ↗ i'm not quite seeing where the chat

2:17 ↗ function is but i feel like this

2:20 ↗ as an intent intended as an informal

2:23 ↗ meeting

2:24 ↗ um i don't know whether i will see

2:27 ↗ everyone but i

2:28 ↗ i think um we can try just having people

2:32 ↗ speak

2:32 ↗ up and um if that

2:36 ↗ becomes too chaotic then we'll try and

2:38 ↗ go back to the chat function

2:40 ↗ does that work

2:44 ↗ see lots of head nods excellent okay i

2:46 ↗ am now

2:47 ↗ going to attempt to share my screen

3:03 ↗ can you see my screen yet

3:11 ↗ yes yes yes okay

3:14 ↗ super um

3:20 ↗ just going to try and make you up yes

3:23 ↗ this is andrea

3:24 ↗ uh just so that you're aware your screen

3:28 ↗ is in kind of the presenter view format

3:31 ↗ such

3:32 ↗ that we're seeing your first slide and

3:35 ↗ then also a preview of your next slide

3:37 ↗ and any

3:38 ↗ notes that you might have added to the

3:41 ↗ bottom

3:42 ↗ and so i just wanted you to be aware of

3:45 ↗ what we're seeing

3:46 ↗ yes i don't have any really salacious

3:49 ↗ notes

3:50 ↗ but i um

3:53 ↗ this is where i'm going to try and get

3:55 ↗ out of it again

4:04 ↗ no you have to go to the top of the

4:06 ↗ screen and then a drop down menu will

4:08 ↗ appear for you

4:16 ↗ [Music]

4:19 ↗ it would be the primary screen that you

4:21 ↗ were um

4:25 ↗ watching the webex presentation on

4:32 ↗ ah

4:36 ↗ okay let me try

4:50 ↗ sharing one a different way

5:06 ↗ is that just one that you're seeing now

5:09 ↗ there you go

5:10 ↗ yes yeah yeah i don't want to reveal too

5:12 ↗ much to you ahead of time

5:14 ↗ so um okay

5:18 ↗ um good evening um thanks for your

5:20 ↗ patience

5:21 ↗ uh with technology so we're going to

5:24 ↗ start with the introduction

5:26 ↗ part i would

5:30 ↗ like to just pose some

5:33 ↗ questions as an opportunity for us to

5:37 ↗ tell a little bit about ourselves um

5:42 ↗ the name length of time that you're

5:46 ↗ living in the city length of time on the

5:48 ↗ development commission

5:50 ↗ and then something about yourself you

5:52 ↗ are um

5:53 ↗ free to pick any or all of or another

5:57 ↗ uh question that um

6:01 ↗ you uh would like to tell the commission

6:04 ↗ about

6:05 ↗ and to give you a moment since i got to

6:08 ↗ read the

6:08 ↗ questions i actually typed the questions

6:11 ↗ i will start to give you a moment

6:14 ↗ to think about what you might want to

6:17 ↗ say

6:18 ↗ i'm lucy sloman as i mentioned i have

6:21 ↗ been

6:22 ↗ an employee of the city of isquas since

6:25 ↗ 2012 but before that i was

6:29 ↗ a planning consultant providing staff

6:32 ↗ services and so

6:35 ↗ i've been doing that since 1996

6:39 ↗ so since the so last century

6:43 ↗ i have been the liaison to the

6:46 ↗ development commission

6:47 ↗ for i think three or four years

6:52 ↗ and

6:56 ↗ i'm not sure what my hobbies are right

6:58 ↗ now i mean there's so little that we can

7:00 ↗ do

7:01 ↗ i guess i would say i am binge watching

7:04 ↗ lots of

7:04 ↗ tv and learning how to operate

7:09 ↗ all kinds of remotes and different

7:11 ↗ programs

7:14 ↗ and i am a slippers and jeans person

7:17 ↗ i don't know that i own sweatpants um so

7:21 ↗ uh leaving the house is putting on shoes

7:23 ↗ which i haven't done for a very long

7:25 ↗ time

7:29 ↗ so um i

7:32 ↗ will maybe just call on people since

7:35 ↗ we're not in any particular

7:37 ↗ configuration

7:38 ↗ and maybe um why don't i do this i will

7:41 ↗ identify the next person and then they

7:43 ↗ get to pick the next one

7:45 ↗ so we'll be kind of a ball toss

7:48 ↗ and i will pick arthur schulte

7:53 ↗ okay thank you lucy uh first of all

7:54 ↗ welcome patty and john great to have you

7:56 ↗ on board

7:57 ↗ my name is arthur schulte i've i'm a

8:00 ↗ project manager for an architecture firm

8:02 ↗ in downtown seattle and i'm also

8:04 ↗ an adjunct professor at a local

8:06 ↗ technical college

8:07 ↗ teaching architecture software length of

8:10 ↗ time and living in the city

8:11 ↗ just under three years and just under

8:14 ↗ two years for a length of time on the

8:16 ↗ development commission

8:18 ↗ i guess something interesting about me

8:20 ↗ is i was born and adopted from vilnius

8:23 ↗ lithuania

8:24 ↗ it's been way back but almost seems like

8:27 ↗ yesterday

8:28 ↗ um and then uh traveled to the

8:31 ↗ to baltimore maryland was the first home

8:33 ↗ in the states before moving out here

8:35 ↗ and i've been here about 22 years in the

8:37 ↗ pacific northwest

8:38 ↗ and then regarding hobby biking

8:41 ↗ paddle boarding here on like some amish

8:44 ↗ and of course uh

8:45 ↗ hiking on the wonderful hiking paths

8:47 ↗ that we've got here as well

8:52 ↗ and then i guess i picked the next

8:53 ↗ person huh um

8:56 ↗ let's start with john you're up

8:59 ↗ hey my name is john akita i moved here

9:03 ↗ in 93 or so i'm a project manager with

9:06 ↗ the faa

9:07 ↗ uh built air traffic control towers from

9:10 ↗ my first ones in denver

9:12 ↗ been working at it for about 37 years

9:16 ↗ not on the development commission the

9:17 ↗ first time

9:19 ↗ my hobbies are biking like you say

9:23 ↗ i just bought an e-bike which is a gas

9:26 ↗ and um the other hobby i picked up

9:28 ↗ during covet is

9:29 ↗ carving wooden spoons so uh

9:34 ↗ that's kind of a that's a it's a

9:36 ↗ dangerous hobby because i've cut myself

9:37 ↗ a few times

9:41 ↗ doug uh jormink

9:48 ↗ um i'm doug yormick i am an assistant

9:51 ↗ planner with

9:52 ↗ the city i am one of uh the planners

9:55 ↗ that lucy sloman manages

9:57 ↗ i run the behind the scenes um manage

10:00 ↗ the chat and just make sure

10:03 ↗ to get the public comments organized

10:07 ↗ i don't live in the city i live in

10:08 ↗ seattle but i've been working for the

10:10 ↗ city for

10:11 ↗ going out four years in march

10:17 ↗ hobby um i run i hike

10:20 ↗ i guess all of the things that people in

10:22 ↗ the pacific northwest say that they do

10:24 ↗ um i do that um i do play a lot of

10:27 ↗ guitar as well

10:28 ↗ and um during covet i have really picked

10:31 ↗ it up and started playing a lot more

10:33 ↗ than i used to before

10:35 ↗ and um i don't own slippers because

10:38 ↗ they don't i can't find slippers my size

10:40 ↗ so i'm just

10:42 ↗ socks and jeans

10:49 ↗ oh and then i get to choose next so i am

10:52 ↗ going to choose

10:55 ↗ um uh richard sowa

11:06 ↗ you're still muted richard

11:12 ↗ there you go sorry i just was saying

11:15 ↗ that i'm richard sola

11:16 ↗ i uh been living in issaquah for 11

11:18 ↗ years now i've been on the commission

11:21 ↗ five years i think i don't know in there

11:23 ↗ four or five years

11:25 ↗ uh i uh

11:28 ↗ have i like to fish i work my uh

11:31 ↗ i volunteer at the esquasam hatchery

11:34 ↗ every day

11:36 ↗ try to convince the fish that uh i've

11:39 ↗ fed them every day so when they come

11:40 ↗ back in four or five

11:42 ↗ years they should remember me and and

11:44 ↗ honor me with being able to catch them

11:45 ↗ but it hasn't worked very well so far

11:48 ↗ i do i do wear shoes i do wear pants and

11:52 ↗ get to go outside i want one of the only

11:56 ↗ volunteers that they allow to come on

11:58 ↗ the hatchery grounds for i've been there

11:59 ↗ for

12:00 ↗ eight years now so uh and

12:05 ↗ not very not very exciting

12:09 ↗ like oh i was going to say my first job

12:11 ↗ and my worst job

12:12 ↗ my best friend i was living in ogden

12:15 ↗ utah and he convinced me we were in

12:17 ↗ uh junior high school and he convinced

12:19 ↗ me that a good job would be to go pick

12:21 ↗ beans because we could make a lot of

12:23 ↗ money

12:24 ↗ and it was like 500 degrees temperature

12:27 ↗ about 400 percent humidity i lasted

12:31 ↗ about 20 minutes we got in a big bean

12:33 ↗ fight and tore down a whole bunch of

12:34 ↗ bean rose and they asked us to leave

12:40 ↗ not a good introduction to the working

12:42 ↗ world so we may as well stick with

12:44 ↗ richards how about richard sanford

12:47 ↗ hey welcome patty and john to the dc

12:50 ↗ my name is richard sanford and i moved

12:54 ↗ up to issaquah from the bay area in 1989

12:58 ↗ uh 31 years hard to believe

13:01 ↗ i've been on the dc for three and a half

13:05 ↗ years now

13:06 ↗ and unlike some of my

13:09 ↗ fellow uh all of my fellow commissioners

13:12 ↗ really

13:12 ↗ i don't have a background in

13:15 ↗ architecture or land use

13:16 ↗ or anything like that i joined the dc

13:19 ↗ right after

13:20 ↗ um retiring from boeing and there i was

13:23 ↗ a technical communicator

13:25 ↗ and project manager and so i guess the

13:28 ↗ powers that be

13:29 ↗ thought that i was technical enough to

13:31 ↗ take a chance with me so

13:32 ↗ i've been here for a while and uh let's

13:35 ↗ see hobby i also write some fiction on

13:37 ↗ the side

13:38 ↗ so after a while i'll try to sell you a

13:40 ↗ novel or two

13:42 ↗ that's about it so uh let's see

13:44 ↗ brookshire

13:45 ↗ are you out there

13:50 ↗ hello can you guys hear me yep yep

13:53 ↗ okay yes uh hi i'm brook shore i've

13:56 ↗ lived in

13:57 ↗ ithaca for over five years

14:00 ↗ and i've been on the development

14:02 ↗ commission for about a year and a half

14:05 ↗ and i also like

14:08 ↗ biking and i just bought a new pair of

14:12 ↗ slippers last week

14:13 ↗ because i decided i needed two pair

14:15 ↗ definitely wearing a lot of slippers

14:16 ↗ recently

14:20 ↗ and let's see

14:23 ↗ kevin do you want to go next

14:29 ↗ you're still muted kevin

14:39 ↗ how about now you're not muted anymore

14:43 ↗ all right well i'm i'm here i just

14:45 ↗ dropped my computer

14:47 ↗ i've regained my composure i'm uh

14:50 ↗ well welcome patty and john it's nice to

14:52 ↗ meet you

14:53 ↗ my name is kevin price i've been on the

14:55 ↗ commission since um

14:58 ↗ i guess it's 2016 now

15:01 ↗ and i moved to iskcon iskwan 2015 from

15:05 ↗ seattle

15:06 ↗ after living there for about 20 years um

15:12 ↗ let's see something about myself um

15:16 ↗ well hobby i have no hobby i recently

15:20 ↗ during

15:20 ↗ the global pandemic and political

15:23 ↗ uncertainty in the world decided to

15:25 ↗ start my own job

15:26 ↗ or my own business so i've gone out on

15:27 ↗ my own after working uh

15:30 ↗ with a company in seattle for the past

15:32 ↗ 25 years so

15:33 ↗ it's just me in my basement so uh

15:36 ↗ it's so far so good i'm really enjoying

15:39 ↗ it

15:41 ↗ first job i was a junior ranger

15:44 ↗ for the city of boulder mountain parks

15:46 ↗ which was a really awesome job we got to

15:48 ↗ do trail maintenance

15:50 ↗ we got to build new trails and on the

15:53 ↗ occasion if you followed

15:55 ↗ some of the news coming out of colorado

15:56 ↗ this summer we also got to fight fires

16:00 ↗ so we were teenagers i was in junior

16:02 ↗ high doing this

16:03 ↗ out fighting fires i'm not sure they

16:06 ↗ would let you do that now but for

16:07 ↗ whatever reason we were fighting fires

16:09 ↗ um and while working virtually i can't

16:14 ↗ say enough i got some new slippers

16:16 ↗ these are spectacular you've got to try

16:18 ↗ them they fold down so they fit more

16:20 ↗ like a clog or you can put the heel up

16:22 ↗ it's just it's unbelievable but i i

16:25 ↗ strongly recommend slippers for uh

16:27 ↗ covered working um

16:30 ↗ let's see is patty out there

16:35 ↗ yes yes i'm here uh i'm patty dillon

16:38 ↗ i have lived in in fizzy claw for the

16:42 ↗ past

16:43 ↗ 11 years and the

16:46 ↗ what ten before that um in

16:50 ↗ in seattle i i'm actually technically a

16:53 ↗ seattle native i

16:54 ↗ i was born here when my dad was in in

16:56 ↗ grad school and

16:58 ↗ moved around quite a bit california

17:00 ↗ colorado

17:01 ↗ calgary growing up and then made my own

17:05 ↗ way back here for

17:06 ↗ graduate school at uw and i've been here

17:09 ↗ since

17:10 ↗ i work i'm a civil engineer i work for a

17:12 ↗ water resources consulting firm

17:15 ↗ and um hobbies normally at this time of

17:19 ↗ year i would be coaching one or both of

17:21 ↗ my kids

17:22 ↗ um in basketball i've been a coach with

17:24 ↗ parks and rec

17:25 ↗ for um gosh i guess the past seven

17:29 ↗ seasons before this one

17:33 ↗ kind of same outdoor activities um kind

17:37 ↗ of one

17:38 ↗ interesting tidbit i worked as a white

17:40 ↗ water rafting guide for a year

17:43 ↗ outside sacramento in between

17:46 ↗ college and grad school so that's that's

17:48 ↗ always a little fun fact to share

17:51 ↗ mostly during covet i've been a a jeans

17:53 ↗ and shoes kind of person but i actually

17:55 ↗ just found

17:56 ↗ the most amazing pair of sweatpants that

17:58 ↗ i've ever owned i think i'm asking for

17:59 ↗ another one for christmas

18:02 ↗ so i can be converted

18:06 ↗ um let's see i get to see more of the

18:09 ↗ list here

18:12 ↗ um i guess how about mike brennan

18:17 ↗ great thanks patty nice to meet you and

18:20 ↗ you too john welcome to the commission

18:21 ↗ so

18:22 ↗ my name is mike brennan um i i grew up

18:25 ↗ on the east side of the mountains and in

18:27 ↗ wenatchee and moved

18:29 ↗ to this area about 33 years ago and and

18:32 ↗ uh have enjoyed every minute of it

18:35 ↗ here um been on the commission for over

18:38 ↗ 10 years i lost tracks when you get up

18:40 ↗ into double figures you just you just

18:42 ↗ don't know anymore so

18:44 ↗ but it has been over 10 years and have

18:46 ↗ seen a lot of amazing projects come

18:48 ↗ through the commission

18:49 ↗ uh as this has grown and it's been a lot

18:51 ↗ of fun to be a part of that

18:54 ↗ i um i really enjoy the outdoors so i do

18:57 ↗ a lot of hiking some climbing biking

19:01 ↗ um you name it outside is is kind of the

19:05 ↗ place to hang out which has been good

19:07 ↗ during this

19:08 ↗ kind of period of proved since um you

19:11 ↗ can't do anything indoors so at least

19:12 ↗ outdoors is still open um i

19:15 ↗ um work from home um i

19:18 ↗ i work for the city of bellevue so just

19:20 ↗ to the to the

19:22 ↗ west of here um in the development

19:25 ↗ services department so i have a lot

19:27 ↗ of similar work that i do during the day

19:29 ↗ as with

19:30 ↗ what we deal with in the evening here at

19:31 ↗ the commission i am a jeans

19:34 ↗ i'm not a slippers guy i'm a socks guy

19:36 ↗ so jeans and

19:37 ↗ and heavy socks work great then you're

19:39 ↗ more mobile um

19:40 ↗ with your socks on so that's my

19:42 ↗ preference uh anyhow i will hand it to

19:45 ↗ uh commissioner morgan

19:50 ↗ well thank you mike um my name is mel

19:54 ↗ morgan and

19:54 ↗ and by the way mike is my next-door

19:57 ↗ neighbor so it was a short hand-off

20:00 ↗ uh we lived next door to each other for

20:02 ↗ 26 years maybe i think and

20:06 ↗ um i've lived in in uh

20:09 ↗ here for 27 years i guess in the area

20:12 ↗ because

20:13 ↗ i actually live in sabaamish but when we

20:16 ↗ moved here

20:17 ↗ it was unincorporated king county and we

20:19 ↗ had an issaquah address

20:21 ↗ so um my address changed but

20:24 ↗ my address didn't change at the same

20:25 ↗ time so anyway so

20:28 ↗ living some amish but i've been here 27

20:30 ↗ years

20:31 ↗ and i've been on the development

20:33 ↗ commission now i think it's 25 years

20:36 ↗ um so i'm still learning um

20:39 ↗ i'm still trying to understand what i'm

20:40 ↗ doing but uh

20:42 ↗ it's it's been great and i applied to

20:44 ↗ the development commission originally

20:46 ↗ because

20:47 ↗ my background's a commercial real estate

20:48 ↗ appraisal

20:50 ↗ and i wanted to do something for the

20:52 ↗ city and i thought this was real estate

20:53 ↗ related

20:54 ↗ and it's been a fantastic experience and

20:57 ↗ i think john and patty will really enjoy

21:00 ↗ it

21:01 ↗ um probably the biggest hobby is hiking

21:03 ↗ uh

21:04 ↗ although i did learn a new skill a new

21:06 ↗ kovitz skill this was my wife and i made

21:08 ↗ lefse

21:09 ↗ this weekend so um i'm sure we'll start

21:13 ↗ a business soon it was that good

21:16 ↗ my first job was in high school

21:19 ↗ working as a weekend dj in a country

21:21 ↗ music

21:22 ↗ radio station in shelton where i grew up

21:26 ↗ and my best job was in college when i

21:30 ↗ at the uw when i was a bartender at

21:32 ↗ dante's tavern

21:34 ↗ [Applause]

21:35 ↗ and uh and yeah i'll kind of wear

21:38 ↗ whatever's clean in the closet i guess

21:40 ↗ so

21:42 ↗ and i what's left

21:45 ↗ or whatever oh lefs is a potato bread

21:48 ↗ that's a

21:49 ↗ norwegian type of potato bran

21:54 ↗ thanks i'm probably the only one that

21:55 ↗ didn't know but i didn't know thank you

22:00 ↗ so i think is that it i think uh andrea

22:04 ↗ where did i oh there we go andrea

22:13 ↗ good evening everybody my name is andrea

22:16 ↗ snyder i'm the deputy city administrator

22:18 ↗ for the city of issaquah

22:20 ↗ and um and

22:24 ↗ also and i'm going to uh trump uh

22:27 ↗ lucy's announcement that i'm sure she's

22:29 ↗ going to make shortly i'm also serving

22:31 ↗ as the acting community planning and

22:33 ↗ development director

22:35 ↗ for those of you who know heath niven

22:38 ↗ who was our previous director his last

22:41 ↗ day with the city was on friday

22:43 ↗ so i will be serving as a director of

22:46 ↗ community planning and development until

22:48 ↗ we are able to fill the position and

22:51 ↗ find somebody else

22:53 ↗ to fill the role um

22:57 ↗ my i have served the city as deputy city

23:00 ↗ administrator

23:01 ↗ for almost two years now maybe we'll

23:04 ↗ call it a year and a half somewhere

23:06 ↗ between there

23:07 ↗ uh prior to that i served the city for

23:11 ↗ five years in economic development

23:14 ↗ and i've certainly served other cities

23:16 ↗ in the region including kirkland and

23:18 ↗ burien

23:19 ↗ and worked for king county um

23:22 ↗ the uh one of my

23:26 ↗ hobbies is i play ice hockey

23:30 ↗ though not right now because of coping

23:32 ↗ restrictions but

23:33 ↗ that would be something i'd be doing if

23:36 ↗ i could

23:36 ↗ and um

23:40 ↗ definitely slippers gal i have them on

23:42 ↗ right now

23:43 ↗ and you know i i'll i'm willing to check

23:46 ↗ out

23:47 ↗ the slipper recommendation but i'm

23:49 ↗ pretty happy with what i've got

23:51 ↗ so thank you for the opportunity to

23:52 ↗ introduce myself and it's great meeting

23:54 ↗ all of you

23:57 ↗ so um i feel compelled to say two things

24:00 ↗ one i sounded like a complete slug

24:03 ↗ compared to the rest of you

24:04 ↗ i have been out walking my neighborhood

24:06 ↗ quite a bit

24:07 ↗ i live in seattle like doug we don't

24:10 ↗ live that far apart although we're not

24:12 ↗ as close as mel and mike

24:14 ↗ and i have found because i'm in the u

24:16 ↗ district roosevelt area

24:19 ↗ covid central for seattle that

24:22 ↗ i am walking a lot of odd alleys and

24:24 ↗ side streets

24:25 ↗ and ravenna ravine and actually i can't

24:28 ↗ even go into the ravine a lot of times

24:29 ↗ because there's so many people in there

24:31 ↗ so i've been walking some very odd

24:33 ↗ routes to

24:34 ↗ avoid people and these are the best

24:38 ↗ slippers

24:39 ↗ these are my work slippers okay

24:43 ↗ i just got them for my birthday and

24:45 ↗ they're very warm and cozy

24:47 ↗ so i i'm advocating for these slippers

24:50 ↗ over kevin's but you know it's not a

24:52 ↗ competition

24:53 ↗ are they felt is that a wolf yes oh wow

24:56 ↗ i'm a little jealous but i can't have

24:58 ↗ anything that will um

25:00 ↗ attract dog hair in my house yes and

25:03 ↗ this would not work i'm finding that the

25:06 ↗ static electricity is pretty impressive

25:09 ↗ it's kind of like swiffers on the bottom

25:11 ↗ but anyway

25:12 ↗ i digress um so

25:15 ↗ um this is the uh kind of entertaining

25:18 ↗ portion

25:19 ↗ of the agenda now we're going to move on

25:21 ↗ to some business

25:23 ↗ of talking about the development

25:26 ↗ commission

25:28 ↗ and the first thing we're going to

25:29 ↗ address is how does the development

25:31 ↗ commission fit into the city

25:33 ↗ organization um

25:36 ↗ so you know like many things

25:39 ↗ in our country there are three branches

25:43 ↗ and both the development commission and

25:47 ↗ cpd as we call it now

25:50 ↗ is under the administration

25:54 ↗ and so sometimes

25:58 ↗ cpd is both making decisions

26:00 ↗ administrative decisions on certain

26:02 ↗ smaller permits and then making

26:04 ↗ recommendations

26:06 ↗ occasionally our recommendations are

26:08 ↗ directly to council

26:10 ↗ but more frequently our recommendations

26:12 ↗ are to the development commission

26:15 ↗ and likewise sometimes the development

26:17 ↗ commission makes decisions

26:19 ↗ and sometimes the development commission

26:22 ↗ makes recommendations and those

26:24 ↗ recommendations would go to the city

26:26 ↗ council for their decision

26:29 ↗ so what i'm now going to spend some time

26:31 ↗ on is the different kinds of permits

26:33 ↗ and why you would be making a

26:36 ↗ recommendation

26:38 ↗ why or when you're going to be making a

26:40 ↗ recommendation

26:41 ↗ or a decision

26:45 ↗ so first we're going to look at the

26:46 ↗ permits and the criteria for permits

26:50 ↗ and this is kind of our agenda for the

26:52 ↗ evening

26:54 ↗ we'll look at the permits and review

26:56 ↗ criteria

26:57 ↗ the main things that you all review are

27:00 ↗ site development permit permits or sdps

27:04 ↗ master site plans for msps

27:08 ↗ and development agreements we'll look at

27:11 ↗ the review process

27:12 ↗ at the commission some of your other

27:15 ↗ responsibilities

27:16 ↗ and then take any final questions

27:19 ↗ but i also want to identify that we're

27:21 ↗ looking for your input

27:23 ↗ so if over the course of the evening

27:26 ↗ you think of things that you think would

27:30 ↗ improve the way we provide information

27:32 ↗ to you

27:33 ↗ or how we do business please make notes

27:36 ↗ and share those at the end because this

27:39 ↗ is an opportunity for us to learn as

27:41 ↗ well

27:46 ↗ so generally there are as i mentioned

27:50 ↗ three kinds of permits um that you're

27:52 ↗ looking at

27:53 ↗ site development permits which is called

27:56 ↗ a level three review

27:58 ↗ master site plans which are a level five

28:01 ↗ review

28:02 ↗ and then development agreements so let

28:03 ↗ me let's look at those

28:05 ↗ in a little more detail a site

28:08 ↗ development permit we also have

28:10 ↗ administrative site development permits

28:12 ↗ so

28:12 ↗ what could be the trigger or threshold

28:15 ↗ for something

28:16 ↗ being a site development permit that

28:18 ↗ comes to the development commission

28:20 ↗ and depending on the part of town it

28:23 ↗ could be

28:23 ↗ the size of the property it could be the

28:26 ↗ size of the building

28:28 ↗ or the location and by that i mean

28:31 ↗ certain streets

28:33 ↗ will trigger uh it being

28:36 ↗ even a small site or small building

28:39 ↗ being treated as a site development

28:41 ↗ permit because

28:42 ↗ on those streets we think that there

28:44 ↗ should be a public conversation

28:47 ↗ about those permits for

28:50 ↗ site development permits the development

28:53 ↗ commission

28:54 ↗ is the decision maker and the process is

28:56 ↗ quasi-judicial

28:58 ↗ i have a slide in a minute explaining a

29:00 ↗ little more about what it means to be

29:02 ↗ quasi-judicial

29:05 ↗ master site plans

29:08 ↗ this tool is not used in the urban

29:11 ↗ villages or

29:12 ↗ central issaquah which is what these

29:14 ↗ abbreviations mean

29:15 ↗ they're so outside of those two areas

29:20 ↗ a master site plan is required when you

29:22 ↗ have a site that is five acres or more

29:25 ↗ and often you will see a master site

29:28 ↗ plan and a site development permit

29:30 ↗ coming together to the commission

29:33 ↗ in this case you're making a

29:35 ↗ recommendation to council

29:37 ↗ they will be the decision makers but it

29:39 ↗ is again

29:40 ↗ a quasi-judicial process lucy can i ask

29:43 ↗ a question you mentioned

29:45 ↗ you said five acres or more and the

29:47 ↗ slide says 15 acres

29:49 ↗ or greater i love when people listen to

29:51 ↗ me and actually pay attention

29:53 ↗ uh you're absolutely correct mel uh it

29:56 ↗ is 15 acres

29:57 ↗ okay um thank you um

30:01 ↗ and then development agreements um

30:03 ↗ generally development agreements are on

30:05 ↗ sites

30:06 ↗ greater than 15 acres not always we

30:09 ↗ sometimes use that

30:10 ↗ as a partnership tool um

30:13 ↗ for instance when the commission a few

30:16 ↗ years ago

30:18 ↗ reviewed the gilman work lofts project

30:22 ↗ that had a development agreement which

30:24 ↗ was not necessary because of the size of

30:26 ↗ the site but because

30:28 ↗ the city and the builder were partnering

30:30 ↗ on transportation improvements

30:32 ↗ and the development agreement was the

30:34 ↗ tool to capture

30:36 ↗ what that agreement was

30:40 ↗ so a development agreement is would come

30:43 ↗ to the commission

30:45 ↗ like costco when the council

30:50 ↗ or administration determines that it's

30:52 ↗ appropriate to pursue one

30:54 ↗ and then again you would also be making

30:57 ↗ a recommendation to counsel

31:01 ↗ and it's a legislative process typically

31:04 ↗ any questions before i go on to the next

31:06 ↗ slide

31:10 ↗ so quasi-judicial for any long-time

31:12 ↗ members

31:13 ↗ of the commission this will be painfully

31:15 ↗ familiar because we read through this

31:18 ↗ at every quasi-judicial public hearing

31:22 ↗ but for our new members i do want to

31:24 ↗ discuss this a little bit

31:27 ↗ so a quasi-judicial process

31:30 ↗ means that you're acting as a court and

31:33 ↗ so therefore the proceedings have to

31:35 ↗ both

31:35 ↗ be fair and appear fair and we do that

31:39 ↗ in two ways one

31:40 ↗ is by observing procedural due process

31:44 ↗ which means the procedures that we use

31:46 ↗ have to follow

31:48 ↗ a certain adopted rules and that we

31:51 ↗ focus on the relationship between the

31:53 ↗ decision maker

31:55 ↗ and the people who benefit from the

31:57 ↗ decision

31:58 ↗ um so generally it means that

32:01 ↗ all communication all consideration

32:05 ↗ of the project is

32:08 ↗ takes place during the public hearing

32:12 ↗ i will mention that staff are always a

32:15 ↗ resource we are considered a neutral

32:18 ↗ party

32:19 ↗ and so um always feel free as

32:21 ↗ commissioners to contact

32:23 ↗ me or the lead planner on a permit if

32:26 ↗ you have questions

32:28 ↗ it's our responsibility to keep you

32:30 ↗ within the proper bounds

32:32 ↗ with those questions and we're happy to

32:35 ↗ do that

32:37 ↗ this is i had put the slide in already

32:40 ↗ but many of you received if not all of

32:42 ↗ you received an email today

32:45 ↗ from a citizen regarding the providence

32:48 ↗ heights

32:49 ↗ high school and elementary school site

32:53 ↗ we have now asked that that citizen to

32:57 ↗ reserve his comments and send them to

32:59 ↗ staff

33:00 ↗ you would have seen all of these

33:02 ↗ comments anyway

33:04 ↗ but i would recommend that if you see

33:08 ↗ an email whose subject line is related

33:11 ↗ to a permit that is before you

33:13 ↗ or will be before you that you just

33:16 ↗ don't read it

33:16 ↗ um just forward it to me and ask

33:19 ↗ questions

33:20 ↗ and that way um it uh retains the

33:24 ↗ quasi-judicial

33:26 ↗ rules and that everything is taking

33:28 ↗ place within the public hearing

33:31 ↗ the second part about the quasi-judicial

33:34 ↗ process

33:34 ↗ is substantive due process and by that

33:37 ↗ we mean

33:38 ↗ that your decision is based on

33:41 ↗ regulations

33:42 ↗ that are adopted so um

33:45 ↗ if you love purple polka dot buildings

33:48 ↗ and think everything should be purple

33:50 ↗ polka dots and

33:52 ↗ the proposal comes in without purple

33:54 ↗ polka dots

33:55 ↗ and the rules do not require purple

33:57 ↗ polka dots

33:58 ↗ you will have to set aside your love of

34:01 ↗ purple polka dots

34:03 ↗ and make a decision based on the adopted

34:06 ↗ rule

34:08 ↗ you can save that for your slippers

34:11 ↗ i would like purple polka dot slippers

34:13 ↗ spring clips

34:17 ↗ okay so we're going to look at the land

34:19 ↗ use process and we're going to keep kind

34:20 ↗ of zooming

34:21 ↗ in on the part that is

34:26 ↗ the part where you really are the

34:28 ↗ commission is most involved

34:30 ↗ but i'm going to start by introducing

34:32 ↗ the full process

34:33 ↗ um so that you can kind of see your part

34:36 ↗ so um yeah i'm sorry can i

34:40 ↗ just a quick note on the due process the

34:43 ↗ could you

34:43 ↗ make a quick mention about emails

34:46 ↗ because i think that's one area where

34:48 ↗ it's easy to end up replying to

34:50 ↗ everybody on the commission we should

34:52 ↗ not be

34:53 ↗ that's a great point um commissioner

34:55 ↗ morgan thank you very much for bringing

34:57 ↗ that up

34:59 ↗ what commissioner morgan is referring to

35:02 ↗ is that if for instance

35:05 ↗ a citizen or

35:08 ↗ myself or another staff person sends

35:11 ↗ an email out to the commission

35:15 ↗ if you have a question or you really

35:18 ↗ shouldn't be responding to a citizen but

35:20 ↗ if you're responding to

35:21 ↗ a staff person let's say you have a

35:24 ↗ question

35:26 ↗ and you think it might be useful to the

35:29 ↗ entire

35:30 ↗ commission really you should email the

35:32 ↗ staff

35:34 ↗ ask the question and then

35:38 ↗ allow the staff person and even suggest

35:42 ↗ to the staff person

35:43 ↗ that this might be useful information to

35:46 ↗ the entire commission

35:47 ↗ and then have the staff person send it

35:50 ↗ out to the full commission

35:51 ↗ so that we're preserving the record it's

35:54 ↗ easy to track

35:55 ↗ the concern is that even though

35:58 ↗ a um

36:02 ↗ email may seem innocuous it may create

36:06 ↗ a an effectively a meeting

36:10 ↗ even if you're and if you're if

36:13 ↗ commissioner morgan

36:14 ↗ contacts his neighbor commissioner

36:16 ↗ brennan and then commissioner brennan

36:18 ↗ contacts the chairperson we are

36:20 ↗ effectively creating

36:23 ↗ a serial meeting through that email

36:26 ↗ so all of it needs to happen within the

36:29 ↗ meeting

36:31 ↗ when the meeting has begun and so the

36:34 ↗ safest thing is just to always

36:36 ↗ only communicate with your staff person

36:40 ↗ or the commission lays on myself

36:44 ↗ and let us

36:48 ↗ make that communication more broadly to

36:50 ↗ the commission

36:52 ↗ does that answer your question

36:55 ↗ thank you

37:00 ↗ so in terms of the process um

37:04 ↗ uh this is cut for the land use portion

37:06 ↗ not the construction

37:08 ↗ portion just the land use portion um

37:11 ↗ we go from informal meetings to

37:14 ↗ decisions and so let me let me talk

37:16 ↗ about this a little bit

37:18 ↗ um staff once

37:22 ↗ a potential applicant contacts us

37:25 ↗ we'll have a couple of informal meetings

37:29 ↗ potentially

37:30 ↗ the first one might just be an

37:32 ↗ introduction if there's a large

37:34 ↗ team of consultants for instance

37:36 ↗ followed by a collaboration and at the

37:38 ↗ collaboration we are generally

37:41 ↗ making sure that they're using the right

37:43 ↗ codes

37:45 ↗ understanding their project asking

37:48 ↗ questions and just kind of getting the

37:50 ↗ lay of the land

37:52 ↗ then we move into a more structured

37:55 ↗ staff

37:56 ↗ process the first is a pre-application

37:59 ↗ meeting it has a

38:01 ↗ set of submittal requirements applicants

38:04 ↗ put this together

38:05 ↗ and the reviewers

38:11 ↗ all take a look at it and provide

38:13 ↗ comments which are then given to the

38:14 ↗ applicant with the goal

38:16 ↗ that when they submit their site

38:18 ↗ development permit or master site plan

38:21 ↗ it is going to be more compliant and

38:24 ↗ many issues can be addressed

38:28 ↗ once we've worked through any questions

38:31 ↗ or

38:32 ↗ comments with the site development

38:35 ↗ permit

38:37 ↗ then staff would begin working on a

38:40 ↗ staff report

38:42 ↗ the commission would then hold its

38:46 ↗ meetings

38:48 ↗ a notice of decision or recommendation

38:50 ↗ would be issued

38:51 ↗ once a decision is final either by the

38:55 ↗ council or the commission an appeal

38:58 ↗ could be filed

39:00 ↗ that doesn't happen that often but we

39:02 ↗ had one earlier this year for instance

39:06 ↗ and then once the appeal process has run

39:10 ↗ if there is one filed then we move

39:13 ↗ into the construction phase and

39:15 ↗ generally that's

39:16 ↗ review of construction permits

39:20 ↗ the actual construction inspections

39:23 ↗ and occupancy of the building

39:27 ↗ so now i'm going to kind of zoom in to

39:29 ↗ the next

39:31 ↗ a little bit more detailed look

39:35 ↗ so what i've circled is that

39:39 ↗ when the site development permit or

39:42 ↗ master site plan

39:43 ↗ is submitted that really is when we're

39:46 ↗ beginning to really think about the

39:48 ↗ process with the development commission

39:51 ↗ and with the development commission it's

39:53 ↗ the staff report

39:55 ↗ the commission meetings and the notice

39:58 ↗ of decision

39:59 ↗ that are really the key steps in the

40:02 ↗ process

40:04 ↗ that takes place at the commission

40:08 ↗ and so the staff report which

40:11 ↗ is um staff's evaluation

40:15 ↗ against the applicable codes

40:18 ↗ of the proposal as well as any

40:21 ↗ exhibits and

40:24 ↗ studies and public comment

40:28 ↗ all of that will be a packet

40:32 ↗ that the commissioners will receive

40:34 ↗ about a week before the commission

40:36 ↗ meeting

40:38 ↗ we will also have advertised the

40:41 ↗ commission meetings

40:43 ↗ depending i think most of these will

40:45 ↗ require

40:47 ↗ site posting mailing notices

40:51 ↗ to property owners within a certain

40:53 ↗ distance of the site

40:55 ↗ and a ad in the newspaper so there's

40:58 ↗ many different ways that we

41:00 ↗ attempt to make the community aware

41:04 ↗ that this proposal is coming in front of

41:06 ↗ the commission

41:09 ↗ when at the commission our typical

41:12 ↗ format

41:12 ↗ or a site development permit which is

41:15 ↗ the most common kind of permit that

41:17 ↗ comes to the commission

41:19 ↗ is this two-part public hearing format

41:24 ↗ at the first meeting the staff

41:27 ↗ and the applicant each introduced the

41:30 ↗ project

41:30 ↗ to the commission and to the public

41:34 ↗ and then the commissioners and public

41:36 ↗ get to

41:37 ↗ make some initial comments ask questions

41:41 ↗ get clarification

41:44 ↗ then following that meeting staff

41:47 ↗ prepare what we call

41:48 ↗ a briefing response memo and in that we

41:51 ↗ summarize the comments concerns

41:54 ↗ and additional information requests that

41:58 ↗ we've received

41:59 ↗ and the applicant and staff each respond

42:02 ↗ to those

42:03 ↗ providing context background

42:06 ↗ code information and it may result in

42:11 ↗ adding conditions removing conditions

42:14 ↗ editing conditions

42:16 ↗ and you'll again get that about a week

42:19 ↗ before the second part of the public

42:22 ↗ hearing

42:22 ↗ in which we'll go over those responses

42:26 ↗ take more public testimony to create a

42:29 ↗ record

42:30 ↗ and then the commission typically makes

42:32 ↗ a decision

42:34 ↗ the decision can be approval approval

42:36 ↗ with conditions

42:38 ↗ or denial those those are the general

42:40 ↗ three choices

42:44 ↗ and then a notice of decision

42:47 ↗ if the commission is the decision maker

42:50 ↗ or a notice of recommendation

42:52 ↗ if there's a recommendation to counsel

42:55 ↗ is prepared by staff

42:57 ↗ and then reviewed and signed by the

42:59 ↗ chairperson

43:00 ↗ on behalf of the commission

43:04 ↗ are there any questions that's a lot of

43:06 ↗ information

43:09 ↗ i have a couple questions when they're

43:11 ↗ going to the public hearings

43:12 ↗ and you're developing your questions are

43:14 ↗ they

43:18 ↗ for the meeting or and then if you have

43:22 ↗ collaboration between say commissioners

43:24 ↗ is this something that

43:25 ↗ you need to go through staff people for

43:28 ↗ so

43:28 ↗ all the discussion between commissioners

43:31 ↗ has to take place

43:32 ↗ uh at the public hearing um

43:36 ↗ and uh so that everyone has an

43:39 ↗ opportunity

43:40 ↗ to hear how each commissioner is

43:42 ↗ considering it

43:43 ↗ i will add though um because that is

43:47 ↗ brings up a really good point uh

43:49 ↗ commissioner ikeda

43:50 ↗ that um you are always welcome to send

43:54 ↗ questions ahead of time to staff people

43:58 ↗ it is very helpful for us to hear

44:01 ↗ especially if we need to collect

44:03 ↗ information

44:05 ↗ uh if we can incorporate uh that

44:08 ↗ into our presentations

44:11 ↗ it's very helpful to get those ahead of

44:13 ↗ time um because then we're

44:15 ↗ better able to actually provide the

44:18 ↗ information to the entire commission at

44:20 ↗ the same time

44:23 ↗ thank you you're welcome so any other

44:25 ↗ questions okay

44:26 ↗ yes if we get a notice of a meeting

44:30 ↗ and we're not exactly sure where how

44:32 ↗ that

44:33 ↗ where that is in the city or where that

44:34 ↗ is are we allowed to go to the site

44:38 ↗ yes um you know that has been something

44:41 ↗ that has gone

44:41 ↗ um back and forth chairperson so and i i

44:44 ↗ appreciate you asking

44:46 ↗ um we

44:50 ↗ we have to rely on the record

44:53 ↗ and um but a commissioner is allowed

44:56 ↗ to visit the site um

45:00 ↗ you cannot bring in um

45:03 ↗ new information so for instance if

45:07 ↗ one of you visited the site and even

45:10 ↗ though there was a wetland report

45:12 ↗ that said there are no wetlands on the

45:14 ↗ site

45:15 ↗ or the wetland is in this corner it

45:18 ↗ would not be appropriate for

45:19 ↗ commissioner to come in

45:21 ↗ and say no

45:24 ↗ i there is a wetland over here because

45:27 ↗ that

45:28 ↗ isn't part of the record but visiting

45:31 ↗ the site and just getting a sense

45:33 ↗ of what it looks like

45:37 ↗ walking around and just understanding it

45:40 ↗ in three dimensions

45:44 ↗ and making it more real than sometimes

45:46 ↗ the drawings

45:47 ↗ and various proposed materials

45:50 ↗ um that is appropriate does that make

45:53 ↗ sense that distinction

45:54 ↗ yes thank you

45:58 ↗ any more questions before i move on

46:04 ↗ arthur were you asking a question uh yes

46:06 ↗ sorry i do have another one

46:08 ↗ um and just to clarify uh having

46:11 ↗ discussions out in public with public

46:13 ↗ members and community that's

46:14 ↗ that's against the protocol right just

46:16 ↗ because that will that would trigger a

46:18 ↗ meeting technically

46:20 ↗ or actually that provide i guess that's

46:22 ↗ information that you would have to

46:23 ↗ disclose

46:24 ↗ at the at the meeting right if if you're

46:27 ↗ approached by a community member

46:30 ↗ just you know graciously tell them

46:33 ↗ you can't discuss it you hope that they

46:35 ↗ will come to the meeting

46:36 ↗ and give their comments there um but

46:39 ↗ that actually also brings up a good

46:40 ↗ point if you have visited the site it's

46:42 ↗ always a good idea

46:43 ↗ to identify that at the meeting

46:47 ↗ and just say i visited the site and

46:49 ↗ walked around

46:50 ↗ the idea is that no one should be

46:53 ↗ surprised by the things that have taken

46:55 ↗ place

46:56 ↗ so that if someone observed you walking

46:58 ↗ around the site

47:00 ↗ and then you didn't mention it um you

47:02 ↗ know where

47:03 ↗ no one's trying to hide anything and um

47:06 ↗ so that would be appropriate to mention

47:08 ↗ that as well

47:10 ↗ okay thanks out of curiosity lucy what

47:12 ↗ is the uh

47:13 ↗ is there a protocol for like note taking

47:15 ↗ during the meetings i mean if we're

47:16 ↗ taking notes is that something we have

47:18 ↗ to

47:19 ↗ um keep on record is is

47:22 ↗ is there any protocol for that um

47:27 ↗ at the end of this meeting i do have the

47:30 ↗ training tape

47:31 ↗ um uh or the how how last century is

47:35 ↗ that

47:35 ↗ i have the youtube video um so

47:39 ↗ from the may 2019

47:44 ↗ legal training that many of you attended

47:46 ↗ with the city attorney

47:47 ↗ and the city clerk and they do speak

47:50 ↗ about that in a little more detail

47:52 ↗ technically your notes

47:56 ↗ any notes on the staff reports that you

47:58 ↗ may have made

48:00 ↗ are public records that could be

48:02 ↗ requested

48:04 ↗ i have not um in my time seen those

48:08 ↗ be requested by an applicant or a member

48:11 ↗ of the public

48:12 ↗ but as i understand that they could be

48:14 ↗ requested

48:16 ↗ okay thank you now if after a

48:20 ↗ permit is approved you

48:23 ↗ recycle those materials because you're

48:25 ↗ done with them that's fine

48:27 ↗ you are not required to retain those

48:29 ↗ things but if you have

48:31 ↗ chosen to retain them and you are asked

48:33 ↗ to produce them

48:34 ↗ you would have to do so okay

48:37 ↗ and then and then after the decision is

48:39 ↗ made we're that we're free to be able to

48:41 ↗ discuss the project

48:43 ↗ with the public that as may present

48:46 ↗ itself correct

48:48 ↗ yes no

48:54 ↗ no no

48:58 ↗ no i'll i'll get

49:14 ↗ clarification

49:17 ↗ okay

49:23 ↗ so in addition to site development

49:26 ↗ permits and master site plans

49:29 ↗ there are some other responsibilities

49:33 ↗ that may

49:34 ↗ come to the development commission one

49:37 ↗ of those

49:38 ↗ are community conferences they don't

49:41 ↗ happen

49:41 ↗ that often i think we've had one

49:45 ↗ in each of the last two years and it may

49:48 ↗ have been

49:48 ↗ five or six years prior to that

49:51 ↗ a community conference is a

49:55 ↗ conversation between the public the

49:57 ↗ commission and an

49:58 ↗ applicant typically early

50:02 ↗ in the process

50:05 ↗ the kinds of permits that could trigger

50:08 ↗ that

50:08 ↗ is a preliminary plat in the urban

50:11 ↗ villages

50:12 ↗ urban villages are like issaquah

50:14 ↗ highlands or talus

50:16 ↗ or a master site plan so those

50:20 ↗ are the two kinds of permits that can

50:23 ↗ trigger

50:23 ↗ a community conference

50:27 ↗ another thing that the development

50:30 ↗ commission

50:31 ↗ is sometimes asked to participate in

50:34 ↗ is the review of regulations

50:39 ↗ you would not be the decision maker but

50:41 ↗ you might be asked to

50:43 ↗ use your expertise from reviewing

50:45 ↗ permits

50:47 ↗ and an example of that is that the city

50:50 ↗ is currently developing

50:52 ↗ new architectural standards for single

50:54 ↗ family

50:55 ↗ in old town and um the

50:58 ↗ development commission was asked to

51:01 ↗ jointly review those with the planning

51:05 ↗ policy commission

51:06 ↗ and participate in some of the early

51:08 ↗ workshops

51:10 ↗ and so like the review of regulations

51:13 ↗ there are times

51:14 ↗ when there are duties that are assigned

51:16 ↗ to the development commission

51:19 ↗ that may not be directly outlined in

51:22 ↗ your charter but

51:23 ↗ in which the city believes that the

51:26 ↗ development commission has some

51:28 ↗ expertise or insight to offer in

51:32 ↗ a process

51:42 ↗ so looking ahead um

51:46 ↗ my first look ahead

51:50 ↗ actually from last year which is that

51:52 ↗ the urban village development commission

51:55 ↗ duties were assigned to the development

51:57 ↗ mission and the planning policy

51:59 ↗ commission and the only reason why

52:02 ↗ i have included that here is because for

52:05 ↗ the new commissioners

52:07 ↗ you may not have known that we had two

52:10 ↗ commissions

52:11 ↗ an urban village development commission

52:13 ↗ and a development commission

52:16 ↗ the urban village development

52:18 ↗ commission's duties have been wrapped

52:19 ↗ into this commission but sometimes you

52:22 ↗ may hear of the uvdc

52:24 ↗ and i just wanted you to know what that

52:27 ↗ was

52:29 ↗ second rivers and streams uh

52:32 ↗ responsibilities

52:33 ↗ that commission has been

52:37 ↗ changed and has evolved into what is now

52:40 ↗ the environmental board um the uh

52:44 ↗ for the new commissioners rivers and

52:46 ↗ streams

52:47 ↗ would um review permits

52:50 ↗ um related to rivers and streams

52:55 ↗ and other critical areas

52:58 ↗ and now the some of those

53:00 ↗ responsibilities

53:01 ↗ um have been expanded and

53:04 ↗ um broadened uh in the establishment of

53:08 ↗ the environmental board

53:11 ↗ and uh so we won't be uh getting

53:14 ↗ materials um in the review that rivers

53:18 ↗ and streams previously provided

53:21 ↗ andrea's already touched on um keith

53:24 ↗ niven's departure

53:26 ↗ and her role as the interim director

53:30 ↗ i do want to note that our department

53:33 ↗ has changed its name we used to be

53:36 ↗ development services you would hear us

53:39 ↗ refer to dsd we are now community

53:42 ↗ planning

53:43 ↗ and development or cpd so

53:47 ↗ that's your new acronym for the evening

53:52 ↗ like with old town um

53:56 ↗ we are doing a major upgrade

53:59 ↗ in the next year year and a half of

54:02 ↗ title 18.

54:03 ↗ title 18 is one of the titles of the

54:06 ↗ issaquah municipal code

54:08 ↗ and it is devoted to land use it is

54:10 ↗ probably

54:11 ↗ the thickness of the land use code

54:14 ↗ equals or exceeds

54:15 ↗ all previous 17 titles so

54:19 ↗ it's a pretty significant section of the

54:22 ↗ municipal code

54:24 ↗ and there are several chapters

54:28 ↗ that we will want to discuss

54:31 ↗ and bring to the development commission

54:33 ↗ either

54:34 ↗ on your own or jointly with the

54:37 ↗ environmental board

54:39 ↗ so that will be one of the

54:42 ↗ responsibilities that we look forward to

54:46 ↗ you having this year to provide guidance

54:49 ↗ those

54:50 ↗ the land use code is one of the primary

54:52 ↗ tools

54:53 ↗ that the development commission uses to

54:57 ↗ review permits and so getting your

54:59 ↗ insights and input

55:02 ↗ to those changes is really important to

55:05 ↗ ensure

55:06 ↗ that we end up with a great product

55:11 ↗ upcoming permits and calendar

55:16 ↗ i am aware of two permits that will

55:19 ↗ be coming to the commission uh probably

55:23 ↗ in the next uh in the first quarter of

55:27 ↗ 2021 one is

55:30 ↗ brown bear car wash which is on gilman

55:34 ↗ and it is a small site but

55:38 ↗ due to its location on gilman the site

55:40 ↗ development permit

55:42 ↗ is will be coming to the commission

55:45 ↗ the other permit that will be coming to

55:48 ↗ you

55:49 ↗ is the master psych plan and site

55:51 ↗ development permit

55:53 ↗ for the providence heights site which

55:55 ↗ contains both a high school and an

55:57 ↗ elementary school

55:58 ↗ the commission held a community

56:00 ↗ conference

56:02 ↗ for this in july

56:05 ↗ and we expect that the materials will

56:09 ↗ for the actual public hearing

56:13 ↗ will come to you as i said in the first

56:15 ↗ quarter

56:18 ↗ on the site development permit for brown

56:20 ↗ bear you would be the decision maker

56:22 ↗ for the master site plan and site

56:24 ↗ development permit

56:26 ↗ for the high school and elementary

56:28 ↗ school you would be making

56:30 ↗ a recommendation to counsel however

56:34 ↗ council makes their decision on all the

56:37 ↗ materials

56:38 ↗ that have been presented to the

56:40 ↗ commission so you have an important role

56:42 ↗ in asking questions and building a

56:44 ↗ record

56:46 ↗ and creating the materials on which

56:49 ↗ the council will make a decision

56:53 ↗ we will all the commissions and boards

56:56 ↗ in the city

56:58 ↗ are working to provide a calendar to

57:01 ↗ each commission that would be included

57:04 ↗ in the packet

57:05 ↗ ours is a little difficult more

57:07 ↗ difficult to put together

57:09 ↗ because we don't always know what will

57:11 ↗ be happening over the course of a year

57:13 ↗ but as we schedule or anticipate

57:18 ↗ permits and projects coming to you

57:22 ↗ such as title 18 or these permits we

57:25 ↗ will be

57:25 ↗ including a calendar in the materials

57:28 ↗ that come with each packet

57:30 ↗ so you just have that as a reference

57:34 ↗ and then lastly

57:41 ↗ the communication that i sent out last

57:44 ↗ week

57:45 ↗ providing an update on the appeal

57:48 ↗ of the evergreen ford

57:51 ↗ dealership we are going our goal

57:55 ↗ is to be providing those anytime

58:00 ↗ there is some action beyond

58:03 ↗ the commission's decision so in the case

58:06 ↗ of

58:07 ↗ evergreen ford that was an appeal

58:10 ↗ of the permit in the case

58:13 ↗ of for instance the providence heights

58:17 ↗ schools that would be to keep you

58:19 ↗ informed of

58:21 ↗ what takes place at council we

58:24 ↗ want to close that loop help

58:27 ↗ commissioners

58:28 ↗ know how your work evolves

58:32 ↗ or what happens with it and

58:36 ↗ just keep you informed

58:44 ↗ and so um before i go

58:47 ↗ into some resources for the commission

58:50 ↗ i wanted to find out if you had any

58:53 ↗ questions or

58:54 ↗ input that you care to share

58:58 ↗ lucy one question richard sanford

59:01 ↗ you mentioned appeal in one of the early

59:03 ↗ slides does that

59:04 ↗ always go to the hearing examiner or

59:07 ↗ other other options for that how does

59:09 ↗ that typically work

59:11 ↗ i think all the commission decisions

59:14 ↗ would go to the hearing examiner

59:18 ↗ council decisions if they are appealed

59:21 ↗ do not go to the hearing examiner i

59:23 ↗ believe they go to superior court

59:26 ↗ thanks lucy you mentioned

59:30 ↗ our earlier one of your slides had both

59:32 ↗ the quasi-judicial

59:34 ↗ process and the legislative process

59:37 ↗ could you

59:38 ↗ could you talk about the legislative

59:40 ↗ process a little bit or why it's called

59:42 ↗ that

59:44 ↗ um a development agreement

59:48 ↗ um when it's those big development

59:51 ↗ agreements kind of like

59:53 ↗ the um isqua highlands or for costco

59:58 ↗ that is treated

1:00:02 ↗ for a development agreement it's kind of

1:00:04 ↗ like adopting a code

1:00:07 ↗ such as the old town single-family

1:00:09 ↗ architectural standards

1:00:11 ↗ and the process that

1:00:14 ↗ those go through because they apply to

1:00:16 ↗ many properties

1:00:17 ↗ and not just one particular proposal

1:00:22 ↗ um is not quasi-judicial and it allows

1:00:26 ↗ the community to be in contact with the

1:00:30 ↗ decision-maker makers

1:00:32 ↗ and even advocate to the decision makers

1:00:35 ↗ and so i think

1:00:39 ↗ for me that's the one i immediately

1:00:41 ↗ think of there may be other aspects that

1:00:43 ↗ are different

1:00:44 ↗ but um i think it's the relationship

1:00:47 ↗ between the decision makers and any

1:00:49 ↗ interested parties that is

1:00:51 ↗ distinct thank you

1:00:58 ↗ any input that came um up

1:01:01 ↗ uh while we were going through this yeah

1:01:04 ↗ my

1:01:04 ↗ this is richard i'd like to give a

1:01:07 ↗ commendation and then

1:01:08 ↗ and then give an exhortation the

1:01:10 ↗ commendation is to current commissioners

1:01:12 ↗ uh we get we get a bunch of material a

1:01:14 ↗ week before

1:01:15 ↗ our our meetings whatever they are and

1:01:18 ↗ uh

1:01:18 ↗ it's usually that adequate amount of

1:01:21 ↗ time to go through

1:01:22 ↗ sometimes a whole lot of written

1:01:24 ↗ paperwork but it's really critical

1:01:26 ↗ because it gives us the opportunity to

1:01:28 ↗ be able to

1:01:29 ↗ get a sense of the project and and to

1:01:31 ↗ their credit

1:01:32 ↗ the current commissioners have done

1:01:34 ↗ really an outstanding job i think of

1:01:36 ↗ being able to go through

1:01:37 ↗ that material and be able to ask some

1:01:39 ↗ really meaningful questions

1:01:40 ↗ and and make comments uh the

1:01:43 ↗ encouragement or the exhortation is to

1:01:44 ↗ the new commissioners and i just

1:01:46 ↗ encourage you uh it's not it's not a

1:01:49 ↗ time to be bashful or afraid and it's a

1:01:51 ↗ time to be bold

1:01:52 ↗ and if something doesn't make sense or

1:01:54 ↗ if you notice things that don't

1:01:55 ↗ that you don't understand boy that the

1:01:58 ↗ time to be able to make comment on that

1:02:00 ↗ is during the meetings and it's really

1:02:02 ↗ really critical we look

1:02:03 ↗ we look forward to your uh your your

1:02:06 ↗ ability to be able to read that

1:02:07 ↗ from your backgrounds and be able to

1:02:09 ↗ pick out stuff that maybe some of the

1:02:10 ↗ others of us can't so

1:02:12 ↗ it's really a critical part we're

1:02:14 ↗ representing really representing the

1:02:16 ↗ community in a

1:02:18 ↗ large way and and so i just encourage

1:02:20 ↗ you to be uh

1:02:21 ↗ really careful as you read and take

1:02:23 ↗ notes and and be ready to ask questions

1:02:25 ↗ and make comments

1:02:30 ↗ and i would like to add something uh to

1:02:33 ↗ what uh

1:02:33 ↗ chairperson zoa said um along with

1:02:36 ↗ complimenting you all because i know you

1:02:38 ↗ put in a lot of effort um and uh

1:02:41 ↗ i know that's because of the big bucks

1:02:43 ↗ that we pay you all

1:02:46 ↗ um i really do appreciate

1:02:49 ↗ all the effort and i wanted to um take a

1:02:52 ↗ moment just to touch on

1:02:54 ↗ um the different roles of the alternates

1:02:57 ↗ and the regular uh commission members

1:03:00 ↗ uh our approach is to have

1:03:05 ↗ both the regular members and the

1:03:07 ↗ alternates

1:03:08 ↗ receive all the materials participate in

1:03:11 ↗ all the meetings

1:03:13 ↗ however when we get to the vote

1:03:17 ↗ the regular members would be the

1:03:20 ↗ commissioners who would vote the

1:03:22 ↗ alternate members would not have the

1:03:25 ↗ opportunity to vote

1:03:26 ↗ unless they have been asked

1:03:30 ↗ to stand in for a regular meet uh member

1:03:33 ↗ to meet a quorum but we feel it's

1:03:36 ↗ really important to have the alternates

1:03:39 ↗ fully participate

1:03:41 ↗ it uh is it makes for a rich

1:03:44 ↗ conversation

1:03:45 ↗ um we hope it makes it interesting and

1:03:48 ↗ engaging for the alternates

1:03:50 ↗ it means that you all function very well

1:03:52 ↗ together as a team because you're

1:03:54 ↗ familiar with the processes

1:03:56 ↗ and sort of the different personalities

1:04:00 ↗ and procedures of the commission

1:04:03 ↗ so for

1:04:06 ↗ 90 percent of the time the roles are not

1:04:09 ↗ really distinct

1:04:11 ↗ and it's only when we get to an actual

1:04:13 ↗ vote on a recommendation or a decision

1:04:17 ↗ and how many how many votes do we how

1:04:20 ↗ many regular

1:04:21 ↗ members do we have for to a perform

1:04:25 ↗ uh so we have seven members and four

1:04:28 ↗ members

1:04:28 ↗ is a quorum okay

1:04:35 ↗ so just a quick comment um i appreciate

1:04:38 ↗ what um

1:04:40 ↗ what the chair said uh

1:04:44 ↗ participation that participation

1:04:45 ↗ information um hugely valuable

1:04:48 ↗ well and i know thinking about my first

1:04:50 ↗ commission meeting it is a little

1:04:51 ↗ intimidating

1:04:52 ↗ to

1:05:06 ↗ or really

1:05:09 ↗ willing to help answer those even

1:05:10 ↗ outside the commission as we leave you

1:05:11 ↗ down as long as

1:05:12 ↗ the material to the discussion that

1:05:15 ↗ we're having uh during the meeting

1:05:17 ↗ and then also did you mention that

1:05:20 ↗ you're going to provide additional

1:05:24 ↗ let's follow up to some decisions that

1:05:26 ↗ are uh coming out of the commission that

1:05:27 ↗ may be appealing

1:05:28 ↗ or making recommendations heading to the

1:05:30 ↗ city accounts for decision

1:05:32 ↗ really appreciate that because it's kind

1:05:35 ↗ of nice to know how the story ends if it

1:05:36 ↗ doesn't end with us

1:05:37 ↗ on the evening that we make the

1:05:38 ↗ decisions so

1:05:40 ↗ i appreciate that uh the initial

1:05:42 ↗ follow-up uh everything the information

1:05:44 ↗ that

1:05:45 ↗ uh the year was being provided

1:05:48 ↗ on the good good admission to see and

1:05:50 ↗ read so appreciate that

1:05:56 ↗ i don't know if everybody else heard

1:05:58 ↗ that real well your audio on my computer

1:06:00 ↗ wasn't very good

1:06:01 ↗ was i the only one

1:06:06 ↗ i had the same problem yeah

1:06:10 ↗ i'll just

1:06:13 ↗ connections before sorry about that i

1:06:15 ↗ think we're just slip reading mike

1:06:17 ↗ we're reading your lips

1:06:18 ↗ [Laughter]

1:06:25 ↗ any more questions or input

1:06:32 ↗ lucy could you share the powerpoint

1:06:36 ↗ sure thank you um and actually i was

1:06:39 ↗ just about to say that then

1:06:41 ↗ um i i can share the whole thing if

1:06:43 ↗ that's useful to you

1:06:45 ↗ i was in particular going to share the

1:06:47 ↗ um

1:06:48 ↗ next five or six slides because they're

1:06:50 ↗ about resources

1:06:51 ↗ and they have links um for the

1:06:54 ↗ commissioners to

1:06:55 ↗ those resources but i can share the

1:06:58 ↗ entire thing if that's useful

1:07:01 ↗ i'd appreciate it thank you sure i'd

1:07:04 ↗ appreciate it

1:07:06 ↗ great um be glad to

1:07:10 ↗ um so um

1:07:14 ↗ the next section is resources

1:07:17 ↗ but i do want to mention um as i did

1:07:19 ↗ earlier

1:07:20 ↗ that there is a um sort of the legal

1:07:24 ↗ framework

1:07:25 ↗ how to open meetings act work

1:07:29 ↗ what are your legal responsibilities and

1:07:31 ↗ requirements

1:07:33 ↗ um public records all of these things

1:07:37 ↗ are discussed discussed in the youtube

1:07:41 ↗ video that is shown at the bottom of the

1:07:44 ↗ slide

1:07:46 ↗ i will warn you it's a little over two

1:07:48 ↗ hours

1:07:49 ↗ so set aside a rainy day and

1:07:53 ↗ and if you would in particular for the

1:07:56 ↗ new commissioners we

1:07:58 ↗ do require that you watch this because

1:08:02 ↗ it ensures um it protects both you and

1:08:04 ↗ the city

1:08:05 ↗ and ensures that you understand the

1:08:07 ↗ rules in which you are operating so

1:08:10 ↗ um uh please um

1:08:13 ↗ make the time to watch that

1:08:19 ↗ so um here are some other resources um

1:08:23 ↗ that are available to you

1:08:26 ↗ to help you be prepared so

1:08:30 ↗ i'll start with some general ones at the

1:08:33 ↗ city's website

1:08:35 ↗ which the address is down here

1:08:39 ↗ there are a couple of things that can be

1:08:41 ↗ useful one is the notify me

1:08:44 ↗ which is this second from the left green

1:08:47 ↗ button

1:08:48 ↗ if you select that you can sign up for

1:08:51 ↗ very

1:08:52 ↗ various kinds of notifications it can be

1:08:55 ↗ based on a neighborhood

1:08:56 ↗ it could be based on a project it could

1:09:00 ↗ be based

1:09:01 ↗ on a topic that interests you such as

1:09:04 ↗ development so that's just a resource

1:09:08 ↗ that's available to anyone in the city

1:09:11 ↗ also at the website there is a

1:09:14 ↗ search function at the top if the

1:09:17 ↗ other resources we have provided um

1:09:20 ↗ you aren't finding what you're looking

1:09:22 ↗ for feel free to contact staff

1:09:25 ↗ or if it's on after hours or on the

1:09:28 ↗ weekend

1:09:29 ↗ or you just are curious feel free to put

1:09:32 ↗ something in there i've heard people

1:09:34 ↗ generally have pretty good luck with

1:09:36 ↗ the search function another

1:09:39 ↗ general resource that the city provides

1:09:44 ↗ is what we call the active projects map

1:09:47 ↗ this shows moderate to large size

1:09:51 ↗ projects that are either in review

1:09:55 ↗ which is why they're orange or in

1:09:57 ↗ construction

1:09:58 ↗ which is why they're gray and

1:10:01 ↗ at this site if you click on one of

1:10:03 ↗ these parcels either gray or

1:10:06 ↗ orange a panel will appear on the left

1:10:10 ↗ providing some basic information and the

1:10:12 ↗ planning lead

1:10:14 ↗ at the bottom of it it says view

1:10:17 ↗ related documents you can click on that

1:10:19 ↗ and another panel

1:10:21 ↗ opens and uh you can see

1:10:24 ↗ a selection of many of the documents

1:10:28 ↗ that have been submitted to the city and

1:10:32 ↗ that we make accessible to the public

1:10:35 ↗ anything that's submitted to the city is

1:10:37 ↗ available

1:10:39 ↗ but to try and keep the list workable

1:10:42 ↗ we generally select the ones that we

1:10:45 ↗ think will be of most interest to the

1:10:47 ↗ public

1:10:55 ↗ another thing that may be of interest

1:10:58 ↗ to the commissioners are various city

1:11:00 ↗ codes and standards

1:11:02 ↗ if you click on your government

1:11:06 ↗ on the right hand side is a selection of

1:11:09 ↗ different kinds of documents

1:11:11 ↗ the second from the top is city codes

1:11:14 ↗ standards and plans

1:11:16 ↗ and when you open that this is what you

1:11:18 ↗ would see

1:11:19 ↗ so there are lists of city codes

1:11:22 ↗ city standards and city plans

1:11:26 ↗ which may be useful

1:11:29 ↗ for the permit that you're reviewing

1:11:32 ↗ if you select municipal code

1:11:36 ↗ this is the page you will get um

1:11:40 ↗ i don't usually go in this way but if

1:11:42 ↗ you want to get to just

1:11:43 ↗ the land use code that's an easy way

1:11:46 ↗ to access it

1:11:54 ↗ um code publishing

1:11:59 ↗ is a company that publishes many

1:12:01 ↗ municipal codes

1:12:02 ↗ including ours and the address is at the

1:12:05 ↗ bottom of the page

1:12:08 ↗ when you you can see all the various

1:12:11 ↗ titles

1:12:11 ↗ that the city of issaquah has over here

1:12:15 ↗ this arrow is pointing at title 18.

1:12:19 ↗ each of these in title 18 is a different

1:12:22 ↗ chapter

1:12:23 ↗ so there are zoning procedures

1:12:29 ↗ annexations parking landscape

1:12:33 ↗ and so any of these codes may be useful

1:12:37 ↗ i will tell you that one

1:12:40 ↗ confusing aspect about city codes which

1:12:43 ↗ is why we are reworking

1:12:44 ↗ title 18 is

1:12:48 ↗ that these codes may not apply

1:12:52 ↗ in some areas of the city

1:12:55 ↗ section 1819 has

1:12:59 ↗ a lot of codes in it 1819

1:13:03 ↗ is old town 1819a

1:13:06 ↗ is central issaquah which actually isn't

1:13:09 ↗ at code publishing you have to go to the

1:13:12 ↗ document center which i'll show you in a

1:13:13 ↗ minute um

1:13:16 ↗ itaqua highlands and talus have

1:13:18 ↗ replacement regulations that were

1:13:20 ↗ adopted

1:13:22 ↗ um this can make it a little confusing

1:13:25 ↗ to find

1:13:26 ↗ where the relevant codes are again feel

1:13:28 ↗ free to contact staff

1:13:32 ↗ and we'll try and help guide you through

1:13:35 ↗ which codes apply

1:13:36 ↗ to the project at hand

1:13:43 ↗ so i have a question i guess for

1:13:46 ↗ long-term

1:13:47 ↗ commissioners um how long do you feel

1:13:50 ↗ like it it took you to

1:13:52 ↗ to get a handle on at least some of the

1:13:54 ↗ the code basics or

1:13:56 ↗ is that i mean i'm sure it's an ongoing

1:13:58 ↗ process and

1:13:59 ↗ and always checking back but just

1:14:01 ↗ curious

1:14:02 ↗ how long it took to kind of get a

1:14:04 ↗ working knowledge of

1:14:07 ↗ where you're looking for most of this

1:14:08 ↗ information

1:14:13 ↗ um i'll i'll jump in and and um say that

1:14:17 ↗ generally you'll find that uh everything

1:14:20 ↗ is really well explained in the staff

1:14:22 ↗ report

1:14:23 ↗ and so the information that um

1:14:25 ↗ [Music]

1:14:26 ↗ you can refer to the code but generally

1:14:28 ↗ the staff has always

1:14:30 ↗ put everything you would need to know in

1:14:33 ↗ the report itself

1:14:35 ↗ um for the most part

1:14:39 ↗ okay that's great

1:14:43 ↗ and patty this is richard sanford and so

1:14:46 ↗ to pick up on commissioner morgan's

1:14:48 ↗ comment often the staff report

1:14:50 ↗ contains references to specific

1:14:53 ↗ uh titles or sections of the code so

1:14:56 ↗ they'll be right there in the staff

1:14:57 ↗ report so if you can

1:14:59 ↗ get to the code then it's easy to look

1:15:01 ↗ it up from there

1:15:08 ↗ thanks

1:15:10 ↗ any additional questions on that one

1:15:15 ↗ so um i just want to point out

1:15:18 ↗ um there is a section of our website

1:15:21 ↗ called the document center

1:15:24 ↗ it used to be listed overtly but

1:15:28 ↗ i think staff were the main people who

1:15:30 ↗ went

1:15:31 ↗ to the document center rather than

1:15:34 ↗ clicking on that

1:15:35 ↗ those code and standards list

1:15:40 ↗ but sometimes that's the easiest way for

1:15:44 ↗ you to find what you're looking for and

1:15:47 ↗ the document center is still there it

1:15:50 ↗ just doesn't show up

1:15:51 ↗ on the website when you at the main page

1:15:55 ↗ so if you enter this address it will

1:15:58 ↗ take you to

1:15:59 ↗ the document center some of the areas

1:16:01 ↗ you might be

1:16:02 ↗ interested in is under development

1:16:06 ↗ central issaquah if you click on this

1:16:10 ↗ triangle it opens up and expands and

1:16:12 ↗ then again with

1:16:13 ↗ development and design standards and you

1:16:16 ↗ can see

1:16:17 ↗ there are several different groupings

1:16:20 ↗ and then you get the specific documents

1:16:22 ↗ so for instance if you were interested

1:16:24 ↗ in parking and you wanted to check

1:16:26 ↗ something that you'd seen

1:16:28 ↗ in a in the staff report read the actual

1:16:32 ↗ language

1:16:33 ↗ this is one way that you might go about

1:16:36 ↗ getting to that specific

1:16:37 ↗ set of code provisions to read more

1:16:41 ↗ about it

1:16:43 ↗ in addition the comprehensive plan

1:16:46 ↗ is available here as well as any

1:16:49 ↗ development agreements

1:16:50 ↗ so for instance

1:16:54 ↗ we still have development agreements

1:16:56 ↗ with rowley properties

1:16:59 ↗ with lakeside industries and with

1:17:02 ↗ swedish hospital there are more but

1:17:04 ↗ just to take those three if you wanted

1:17:07 ↗ to

1:17:08 ↗ see more of the land use

1:17:12 ↗ regulations that are in the development

1:17:14 ↗ agreement and apply

1:17:16 ↗ to a project that had come before the

1:17:18 ↗ commission

1:17:20 ↗ this would be where you would find that

1:17:22 ↗ development agreement information

1:17:25 ↗ lucy i have a question richard sanford

1:17:27 ↗ sometimes

1:17:28 ↗ looking to code i've seen that there are

1:17:30 ↗ references to ordinances

1:17:32 ↗ and they're not linked where do you find

1:17:34 ↗ ordinances are they in the

1:17:36 ↗ document center where are those um

1:17:39 ↗ i believe that if you go to um

1:17:43 ↗ i can't do it right now but it's um

1:17:47 ↗ at our website if you um oh

1:17:50 ↗ let me show you um uh

1:17:53 ↗ actually i think the next slide will

1:17:55 ↗ help you with that

1:17:57 ↗ um this is

1:18:00 ↗ again if you go to your government

1:18:04 ↗ and under officials boards and

1:18:07 ↗ commissions

1:18:07 ↗ when you click on that it takes you to a

1:18:09 ↗ page where you can

1:18:11 ↗ select which commission at the bottom

1:18:15 ↗ of each of these pages it says archive

1:18:18 ↗ center

1:18:20 ↗ and if you click on archive center it

1:18:23 ↗ will take you to the cities archive and

1:18:25 ↗ i believe

1:18:26 ↗ it has um agendas

1:18:30 ↗ minutes and i think ordinances as well

1:18:35 ↗ so uh if you needed to

1:18:38 ↗ see the actual ordinance that's um

1:18:42 ↗ the way you would get to it okay great

1:18:44 ↗ thanks

1:18:46 ↗ so um this is my last slide and and i

1:18:48 ↗ know that sometimes i get questions from

1:18:51 ↗ commissioners

1:18:52 ↗ uh about uh you know how long is my term

1:18:56 ↗ and what is our meeting night or

1:18:59 ↗ i want to see something from a past

1:19:01 ↗ meeting and

1:19:02 ↗ i i'm happy to answer those questions

1:19:06 ↗ and you may be able to find it at the

1:19:08 ↗ page for

1:19:09 ↗ uh whichever board or commission um

1:19:12 ↗ you're interested in

1:19:14 ↗ so um this top box

1:19:17 ↗ shows um sort of the different steps uh

1:19:20 ↗ i've gone to it's kind of like a web

1:19:22 ↗ address

1:19:25 ↗ at the top of the page is the staff

1:19:26 ↗ liaison and a link

1:19:28 ↗ to email them regular commissioners and

1:19:32 ↗ their terms

1:19:33 ↗ are listed here alternate members and

1:19:35 ↗ their terms are listed here

1:19:37 ↗ and then information about our meeting

1:19:39 ↗ times are here

1:19:41 ↗ generally only the last three meetings

1:19:44 ↗ are

1:19:45 ↗ shown here with active links and then

1:19:48 ↗ you have to go into the archive center

1:19:50 ↗ to access

1:19:53 ↗ meetings that are further back

1:19:58 ↗ and that's my last slide

1:20:01 ↗ any other questions or thoughts um

1:20:05 ↗ lucy this is johnny ketta it looks like

1:20:07 ↗ my name's misspelled

1:20:08 ↗ oh okay thanks that's that's not good

1:20:14 ↗ i will check on that thank you

1:20:24 ↗ so uh if if nobody has

1:20:28 ↗ other questions or comments uh it seems

1:20:31 ↗ appropriate do i have to officially open

1:20:33 ↗ the opera

1:20:33 ↗ for public comment i know uh connie

1:20:36 ↗ marsh would like to

1:20:37 ↗ make public comment so i'd like to open

1:20:40 ↗ that time for her now

1:20:43 ↗ okay let's see if i can can you hear me

1:20:46 ↗ yes you can

1:20:49 ↗ oops there we go so uh

1:20:53 ↗ well one that's the first time i've

1:20:55 ↗ actually ever

1:20:56 ↗ heard the process

1:21:00 ↗ described two development commissions

1:21:04 ↗ in that way so i think that's a step in

1:21:07 ↗ the right direction

1:21:09 ↗ oh i'll introduce myself i'm connie

1:21:11 ↗ marsh

1:21:12 ↗ um i have a tendency to try to comment

1:21:17 ↗ on a lot of the development issues

1:21:20 ↗ i don't wait for kovid to wear pajamas i

1:21:23 ↗ just wear pajamas

1:21:24 ↗ all the time and preferably with those

1:21:27 ↗ shoes and socks in public so you can

1:21:29 ↗ just get used to that

1:21:30 ↗ and i have a hobby of two enormous dogs

1:21:33 ↗ that i go out and reign and transfer

1:21:35 ↗ around

1:21:35 ↗ so uh

1:21:39 ↗ but i have an entirely different

1:21:41 ↗ perspective

1:21:43 ↗ on development commission than staff

1:21:46 ↗ does

1:21:47 ↗ and development commission itself does

1:21:50 ↗ so

1:21:51 ↗ uh it is it

1:21:55 ↗ it is it is only somewhat

1:21:58 ↗ a finely run machine from my perspective

1:22:04 ↗ the um the one indicator of that is the

1:22:07 ↗ name change of the department just

1:22:10 ↗ got turned to community planning and

1:22:12 ↗ development

1:22:13 ↗ because uh i i think the city

1:22:17 ↗ decided that the community

1:22:21 ↗ was one of the least emphasized

1:22:24 ↗ voices in development commission

1:22:27 ↗ and now in development projects so

1:22:30 ↗ development

1:22:31 ↗ commission is really interesting because

1:22:34 ↗ you all are supposed to follow and

1:22:38 ↗ uphold the code and code tends to be

1:22:42 ↗ presented to you by staff

1:22:45 ↗ as you all said and they lay it out

1:22:48 ↗ and um that is staffed perspective

1:22:52 ↗ on how code should be implemented

1:22:56 ↗ and the code especially our code now

1:22:58 ↗ which is really freaking fragmented and

1:23:00 ↗ difficult to use i mean it's

1:23:01 ↗ crazy but it can be interpreted in

1:23:05 ↗ many different ways and not all of those

1:23:08 ↗ ways

1:23:09 ↗ are the ways that the community

1:23:12 ↗ would prefer now what i found in doing

1:23:15 ↗ an appeal

1:23:17 ↗ is that what that

1:23:20 ↗ tilts to what staff provides

1:23:25 ↗ is is like has so much standing

1:23:30 ↗ that it is almost impossible to to

1:23:33 ↗ overturn and so if you remember when you

1:23:37 ↗ came

1:23:38 ↗ through the process and we created sort

1:23:40 ↗ of

1:23:41 ↗ neighborhood descriptions for the

1:23:43 ↗ central issaquah plan

1:23:45 ↗ areas i think i think you all were

1:23:47 ↗ involved in that

1:23:49 ↗ it said this is what we intend for these

1:23:51 ↗ neighborhoods

1:23:52 ↗ to be and so this concept

1:23:55 ↗ of intent um

1:23:58 ↗ is more of what i look at when i see

1:24:02 ↗ code going through it's like well what

1:24:04 ↗ do we

1:24:05 ↗ want that neighborhood to be what does

1:24:07 ↗ the community

1:24:08 ↗ see for their town not only now but long

1:24:13 ↗ term

1:24:13 ↗ like in for their kids and their kids

1:24:15 ↗ kids what do we want this town to be

1:24:18 ↗ and these neighborhood descriptions are

1:24:20 ↗ supposed to in theory

1:24:22 ↗ guide staff direction on on

1:24:26 ↗ the code because you know there's always

1:24:28 ↗ this room

1:24:30 ↗ so when lucy's talked about okay we have

1:24:33 ↗ this process

1:24:34 ↗ where we go to a meeting and we

1:24:36 ↗ introduce each other

1:24:38 ↗ i sort of feel like this is the point in

1:24:40 ↗ time where

1:24:41 ↗ you introduce the the vision

1:24:44 ↗ of what that neighborhood should be

1:24:47 ↗ and this is the basis of where

1:24:51 ↗ the the development should begin it's

1:24:54 ↗ like how does this fit in with

1:24:55 ↗ our town and then you look at the code

1:24:59 ↗ and you say

1:24:59 ↗ okay how how does does this

1:25:03 ↗ work on through but this sets the mind

1:25:05 ↗ of the developer and the

1:25:07 ↗ expectations of what our community has

1:25:10 ↗ for that

1:25:11 ↗ area of our town now we don't have this

1:25:14 ↗ for every area

1:25:15 ↗ though i think that we should and so

1:25:18 ↗ um the the

1:25:24 ↗ at this point we we don't do that enough

1:25:27 ↗ and when i saw this agenda and i read

1:25:30 ↗ input um i

1:25:33 ↗ i took it as how can we make the process

1:25:37 ↗ better for the community i i didn't take

1:25:40 ↗ it as much as an

1:25:42 ↗ educational section so i see that little

1:25:45 ↗ line and i'm going for it whether you

1:25:47 ↗ like it or not

1:25:48 ↗ so the concept of staff being neutral

1:25:51 ↗ i think it's super hard for staff to be

1:25:53 ↗ neutral when staff

1:25:54 ↗ talks to a developer all the time and

1:25:58 ↗ you know they want you know what they

1:25:59 ↗ need

1:26:00 ↗ and and so you have a tendency to want

1:26:03 ↗ to accommodate people as human nature

1:26:05 ↗ right

1:26:05 ↗ you all come all of with your own

1:26:08 ↗ expectations

1:26:09 ↗ and the public we come with our our own

1:26:12 ↗ expectations and there

1:26:15 ↗ that you guys have this sort of fine

1:26:18 ↗ balance of

1:26:19 ↗ how to try to meld these things oh wait

1:26:21 ↗ it's starting to sound like the federal

1:26:23 ↗ government

1:26:23 ↗ i'm i'm sorry but

1:26:27 ↗ um one of the things that makes it hard

1:26:29 ↗ for the community

1:26:31 ↗ is that when we

1:26:35 ↗ speak there's no community rebot and

1:26:38 ↗ without a community rebut it makes it

1:26:41 ↗ very

1:26:42 ↗ very hard for the community's voice to

1:26:44 ↗ be solid so

1:26:45 ↗ i would ask that there actually be sort

1:26:48 ↗ of a

1:26:49 ↗ summation of the community comments

1:26:51 ↗ because say if six people commented

1:26:55 ↗ on six topics that would be 36 topics

1:26:58 ↗ that you guys would be having to

1:26:59 ↗ remember

1:27:00 ↗ and then try to decide whether you

1:27:02 ↗ agreed or disagreed

1:27:04 ↗ and so in these meetings i think it

1:27:06 ↗ would be excellent to just

1:27:07 ↗ establish some of those those tools to

1:27:10 ↗ make it easier for

1:27:12 ↗ everybody to do uh the very best thing

1:27:15 ↗ for the community

1:27:16 ↗ they could and um

1:27:19 ↗ let's see here i'm sorry i have to look

1:27:21 ↗ at my note

1:27:23 ↗ oh the uh the the presentation

1:27:27 ↗ needs to be uh also include

1:27:30 ↗ all of the surrounding

1:27:34 ↗ parcels of land to understand the

1:27:36 ↗ connectivity because

1:27:37 ↗ our town is filled with connections be

1:27:40 ↗ it water or roads

1:27:42 ↗ and then when you go to roads

1:27:45 ↗ there is a disconnect in our roads

1:27:49 ↗ because

1:27:50 ↗ a development commission is often told

1:27:52 ↗ that they don't have

1:27:53 ↗ purview over the roads

1:27:57 ↗ connections and how they interface with

1:28:00 ↗ the public right-of-way

1:28:01 ↗ and so that's title 12 and i was just

1:28:05 ↗ reading that today because i read code

1:28:06 ↗ for fun

1:28:08 ↗ that little discrepancy needs to be

1:28:11 ↗ resolved in order to make your

1:28:13 ↗ jobs better and for us to get a better a

1:28:16 ↗ product and

1:28:20 ↗ the other thing that we need to do is we

1:28:22 ↗ need to ensure

1:28:24 ↗ that all of the documents and all public

1:28:26 ↗ comment make it onto the record

1:28:28 ↗ because during my appeal i found that

1:28:30 ↗ those didn't that did not happen

1:28:33 ↗ and that was really concerning to me we

1:28:36 ↗ need to review the green

1:28:37 ↗ sheets lucy did not go into the green

1:28:40 ↗ sheets

1:28:41 ↗ and maybe that is part of something that

1:28:44 ↗ could be provided to the new people

1:28:46 ↗ but basically they give you checklists

1:28:49 ↗ where they show whether they think

1:28:51 ↗ they've accomplished the particular code

1:28:53 ↗ items and they're not very refined and

1:28:56 ↗ things you could drive a truck

1:28:57 ↗ through them and let's see

1:29:00 ↗ oh i'm i'm so almost done you guys oh

1:29:03 ↗ i'm

1:29:04 ↗ last one's important um the active

1:29:07 ↗ projects

1:29:08 ↗ map as far as i know

1:29:11 ↗ does not show changes that are new

1:29:14 ↗ so when you read the active project map

1:29:17 ↗ it all looks like it is of the same age

1:29:19 ↗ there's also an

1:29:20 ↗ active projects list where all of the

1:29:23 ↗ changes to the projects are highlighted

1:29:26 ↗ so that you can understand what has been

1:29:28 ↗ changed in the last 30 days because

1:29:31 ↗ otherwise you can just get lost in the

1:29:33 ↗ entire

1:29:34 ↗ thing and

1:29:37 ↗ there you go uh that is my

1:29:40 ↗ quick and swift boy wouldn't it be nice

1:29:43 ↗ to have this

1:29:44 ↗ all be better uh update so dc

1:29:48 ↗ in the last year you've done an amazing

1:29:50 ↗ job and i look forward to more

1:29:52 ↗ whining at you and hope that you will

1:29:54 ↗ enjoy my new

1:29:55 ↗ sets of pajamas from the upcoming

1:29:57 ↗ holidays thank you

1:30:02 ↗ well we appreciate your comments uh miss

1:30:04 ↗ marsh and uh look forward to dealing

1:30:07 ↗ with you

1:30:07 ↗ on many further occasions so we

1:30:10 ↗ appreciate that and

1:30:11 ↗ as we've said and you may not or may or

1:30:14 ↗ may not recall

1:30:16 ↗ our our effort or our desire is to have

1:30:19 ↗ as many people come to our public

1:30:21 ↗ meetings and

1:30:22 ↗ and opportunities to provide input

1:30:25 ↗ because they have changed

1:30:26 ↗ they have changed the course of what we

1:30:28 ↗ did and what we allowed and

1:30:30 ↗ and it's really vital and so as you

1:30:33 ↗ continue to be engaged i just encourage

1:30:36 ↗ you to

1:30:38 ↗ talk to your friends and neighbors and

1:30:40 ↗ help them be part of the solution as

1:30:42 ↗ well

1:30:42 ↗ so thank you

1:30:47 ↗ so uh it looks like the only

1:30:50 ↗ unless there's other i don't know if

1:30:52 ↗ there's anybody other

1:30:53 ↗ in the public from the public other than

1:30:55 ↗ connie

1:30:58 ↗ doug could you confirm that whether

1:31:01 ↗ there is anyone else on i i don't

1:31:03 ↗ see anyone there is not anyone else

1:31:06 ↗ okay so it looks like uh

1:31:10 ↗ the only other business or announcements

1:31:13 ↗ is that our next scheduled meeting it's

1:31:16 ↗ december 2nd at 20 20 at 7 p.m

1:31:20 ↗ sharp and we'll i guess it'll be a

1:31:24 ↗ a cis a webex meeting as well at this

1:31:27 ↗ point

1:31:28 ↗ um do we have i'm not sure that there's

1:31:32 ↗ any permits scheduled for review

1:31:34 ↗ um there is the standing meeting here

1:31:36 ↗ are correct

1:31:37 ↗ is um december 7th but i would

1:31:40 ↗ anticipate that that and certainly the

1:31:42 ↗ 21st is

1:31:44 ↗ um are going to be canceled but um

1:31:48 ↗ uh one of the staff people will check in

1:31:50 ↗ as we get a little bit closer

1:31:53 ↗ so i i would just ask our two new

1:31:55 ↗ commissioners

1:31:56 ↗ did you both get emails today or did you

1:31:59 ↗ get

1:31:59 ↗ uh communication

1:32:03 ↗ yeah i did i did great okay

1:32:06 ↗ so it looks like everybody's hit and and

1:32:08 ↗ as as lucy said

1:32:10 ↗ if the meetings canceled that that

1:32:12 ↗ notice gets sent out pretty early

1:32:13 ↗ so uh if there's no other

1:32:17 ↗ business no other questions no other

1:32:18 ↗ concerns

1:32:20 ↗ i appreciate you all your tenants and

1:32:23 ↗ like i said

1:32:25 ↗ it was a it was a grand year uh we did

1:32:28 ↗ some fun stuff and

1:32:29 ↗ uh i look forward to being equally fun

1:32:32 ↗ this next year so uh

1:32:33 ↗ hope y'all have a a great holiday uh

1:32:36 ↗ a great uh thanksgiving and and

1:32:40 ↗ christmas or whatever you choose to sell

1:32:42 ↗ however you choose to celebrate

1:32:44 ↗ that thank you for the presentation and

1:32:48 ↗ again happy

1:32:49 ↗ happy holidays to everyone

1:32:53 ↗ thanks and nice to meet all of you

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Richard Sowa, Chair Lucy Sloman, Land Development Mgr. Mel Morgan, Vice Chair Andrea Snyder, Deputy City Administrator Michael Brennan Doug Yormick, CP&D Assistant Planner Patty Dillon Jon Ikeda, Alt. Kevin Price Richard Sanford Arthur Schulte, Alt. Brooke Shore