City Council Special Meeting · Monday, February 10, 2025 · City Council Digest

2. AGENDA ITEMS

Public Comment

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Staff report:

The Administration recommends that the City Council fill the City Council Position No. 6 vacancy.

City Council Position No. 6 Vacancy Make Appointment AB 8952

90 min

Topics: Boards & Commissions

Executive Session - Qualifications of Appointment per RCW 42.30.110(1)(h) ID 1779

30 min

Topics: Boards & Commissions

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0:05 ↗ awesome well welcome everyone I'm

0:07 ↗ calling the February 10th special city

0:09 ↗ council meeting to order uh council

0:11 ↗ member Mars as you can see is joining us

0:13 ↗ remotely so we do have all six council

0:16 ↗ members here uh as a reminder we

0:18 ↗ continue to have a remote aspect to our

0:20 ↗ meetings and both staff members of the

0:22 ↗ public May both staff and members of the

0:25 ↗ public may be participating tonight's

0:26 ↗ meeting remotely via web acts the first

0:29 ↗ item on the agenda this evening is

0:31 ↗ public count uh comment and this is the

0:32 ↗ time that the public May address uh

0:35 ↗ their counsel in person or virtually if

0:37 ↗ you signed up in advance we'll call on

0:39 ↗ you first if you're joining us virtually

0:41 ↗ look for the raise hand uh or send the

0:44 ↗ host a chat message if you're in the

0:46 ↗ room and did not sign up do not worry I

0:48 ↗ will ask for other speakers before

0:50 ↗ closing this portion of the meeting so

0:52 ↗ uh city clerk has anyone signed up to

0:54 ↗ speak for General audience comments

0:55 ↗ tonight yes super so if you are making

0:59 ↗ comments tonight you're invited to

1:00 ↗ address the council regarding matters

1:02 ↗ that are directly related to isqua's

1:04 ↗ programs projects services or events and

1:07 ↗ comments related to political campaigns

1:08 ↗ are not permitted please direct comments

1:11 ↗ to the whole Council and not individuals

1:13 ↗ and while it's not a question and answer

1:15 ↗ session we will contact you to follow up

1:18 ↗ if needed if you are virtual when you're

1:20 ↗ recognized unmute your microphone if

1:23 ↗ you're in the room this is the lect that

1:24 ↗ we're going to be using tonight and the

1:26 ↗ microphone is already on state your name

1:28 ↗ and address in relation ship to the city

1:31 ↗ and speak clearly and pause frequently

1:33 ↗ please limit your comments to 5 minutes

1:35 ↗ if you're attending virtually and don't

1:37 ↗ respond we will have to continue the

1:38 ↗ meeting um so please rejoin if you can

1:41 ↗ personal attacks obene language

1:43 ↗ derogatory marks and disruptive behavior

1:45 ↗ will not be permitted public comments

1:47 ↗ written in verbal are an important

1:48 ↗ aspect of the public process and the

1:50 ↗ city takes comments seriously we thank

1:52 ↗ you for taking time to address US city

1:54 ↗ clerk can you please identify the first

1:56 ↗ person who signed up to speak this

1:57 ↗ evening yes James markart

2:00 ↗ great James if you want to come up over

2:02 ↗ here that'd be great and if you're

2:03 ↗ looking for the timer you want to set

2:06 ↗ the time for

2:07 ↗ James you can keep track of your time

2:09 ↗ right there

2:14 ↗ James uh good evening I'm James markart

2:17 ↗ I live at 575 Mount Everest Lane

2:19 ↗ Southwest up on squawk Mountain uh good

2:23 ↗ evening council members I'm speaking

2:25 ↗ today about an urgent public safety

2:27 ↗ issue uh affecting our children uh two

2:30 ↗ weeks ago my son and his friend were

2:33 ↗ physically assaulted on city

2:35 ↗ property uh in investigating this

2:37 ↗ incident I've discovered this was not an

2:39 ↗ isolated event the same location has

2:42 ↗ been the site of at least three other

2:44 ↗ assaults in the past

2:46 ↗ year um through conversations with other

2:49 ↗ parents I've learned of multiple similar

2:52 ↗ incidents uh ranging from unprovoked

2:54 ↗ violence to full-on sexual harassment of

2:57 ↗ children all on city property

3:01 ↗ these aren't minor scuffles that are

3:02 ↗ happening some of these assaults have

3:05 ↗ been severe enough to require Medical

3:07 ↗ Response teams um and monitoring for

3:11 ↗ concussions the impact on our community

3:13 ↗ is severe one family has already been

3:16 ↗ forced to change schools in order to

3:19 ↗ escape the assaults and is now

3:21 ↗ undergoing counseling to deal with

3:24 ↗ trauma another uh another family is

3:27 ↗ planning to leave our city entirely

3:29 ↗ because they simply feel that nothing

3:32 ↗ has been done to prevent assaults from

3:34 ↗ happening these families are making

3:37 ↗ difficult choices because they don't

3:38 ↗ feel that their children are are safe in

3:41 ↗ public

3:43 ↗ places currently our our only recourse

3:46 ↗ is to call 911 after an incident occurs

3:49 ↗ though some families have stopped

3:50 ↗ reporting incidents entirely having lost

3:53 ↗ faith that anything will change because

3:56 ↗ of their

3:57 ↗ call meanwhile these assaults continue

4:00 ↗ to happen in predictable locations at

4:02 ↗ predictable times this suggests there

4:05 ↗ may be opportunities for preventative

4:07 ↗ measures to better protect our children

4:08 ↗ in public spaces and yet after a year of

4:11 ↗ occurrences we see nothing

4:14 ↗ happening I must also share a serious

4:16 ↗ concern that has been raised to me after

4:20 ↗ some of the Outreach I've done with the

4:21 ↗ community in discussing these incidents

4:24 ↗ with other community members I've heard

4:25 ↗ growing frustration that could lead some

4:27 ↗ to take matters into their own hands

4:30 ↗ while I absolutely do not condone these

4:33 ↗ such actions I feel obligated to convey

4:35 ↗ convey just how unsafe and unprotected

4:39 ↗ many in the community

4:41 ↗ feel I'm here today to ensure this

4:43 ↗ ongoing safety issue is maintained as

4:45 ↗ part of our public record and to ask the

4:48 ↗ council to take the reality of the state

4:51 ↗ of child safety in isqua seriously

4:54 ↗ please work with us the people of isqua

4:56 ↗ to figure out how to keep them safe you

4:59 ↗ should all know that our children's

5:00 ↗ safety matters more to us than anything

5:03 ↗ thank you for your

5:04 ↗ time thank you James city clerk is there

5:08 ↗ anyone else that has signed up to speak

5:09 ↗ or is

5:11 ↗ online mayor we do have at least one

5:14 ↗ member of the public with us

5:17 ↗ online but I don't see anyone indicating

5:20 ↗ a desire to speak well thank you James

5:22 ↗ thank you for coming and sharing your

5:24 ↗ comments this evening about student

5:26 ↗ safety uh is there I don't see anyone

5:29 ↗ else here the lady over there is

5:31 ↗ actually our attorney so she's not

5:33 ↗ necessarily part of the public um just a

5:36 ↗ reminder for anyone that is here that

5:37 ↗ you can talk to your council at any time

5:39 ↗ by emailing them at city council Isa

5:42 ↗ w.gov the next item of business this

5:44 ↗ evening which is the item of business is

5:46 ↗ AB 8952 city council position number six

5:51 ↗ vacancy the city council currently has a

5:53 ↗ vacancy in position number six the city

5:56 ↗ council has 90 days to make an

5:58 ↗ appointment to fill the vacancy

6:00 ↗ the city accepted applications for the

6:02 ↗ vacancy through January 25th and the

6:04 ↗ city council heard presentations from

6:06 ↗ the 12 applicants who met the

6:08 ↗ qualifications at the February 3rd city

6:10 ↗ council meeting at that meeting the city

6:12 ↗ council chose to forward seven

6:14 ↗ applicants along in the process and

6:16 ↗ those seven applicants are here with us

6:17 ↗ this evening tonight the council will

6:20 ↗ start by sorry we will start by asking

6:23 ↗ two questions of each applicant though

6:25 ↗ there may be additional follow-up

6:26 ↗ questions from Council each applicant

6:29 ↗ will have 3 minutes to answer each

6:30 ↗ question there will not be a horrible

6:32 ↗ alarm at the end of your 3 minutes but

6:34 ↗ you can see the clock behind if you lose

6:37 ↗ track of time our city clerk is going to

6:39 ↗ turn it off at 2 minutes and 59 seconds

6:42 ↗ so make sure that you are thinking about

6:44 ↗ wrapping up your comments at that time

6:46 ↗ there was a random draw to determine the

6:48 ↗ order tonight and Mary you will be

6:50 ↗ starting us off first with the first

6:52 ↗ question and we'll go in the order in

6:54 ↗ which you are seated with Kelly going

6:56 ↗ next for the second question we will

6:58 ↗ reverse the order

7:00 ↗ similar to the February 3rd meeting

7:01 ↗ following the question and answer period

7:04 ↗ the city council is anticipated to move

7:06 ↗ into executive session to discuss the

7:08 ↗ qualifications of applicants the city

7:10 ↗ council may choose to narrow the

7:12 ↗ applicants follow the executive session

7:14 ↗ or may choose to make an

7:16 ↗ appointment so as I said we'll be

7:18 ↗ starting with Mary and going down the

7:20 ↗ line and the first question

7:25 ↗ is we can scooch scooching absolutely

7:31 ↗ yeah and you're you are sharing

7:33 ↗ microphones make sure the base of the

7:35 ↗ microphone has a red light on it so that

7:37 ↗ Folks at home can hear you as well

7:40 ↗ perfect so the first question is how

7:43 ↗ should coun how should the council

7:45 ↗ prioritize the issues of the city while

7:48 ↗ dealing with limited

7:54 ↗ resources okay

7:56 ↗ well

7:58 ↗ I I think I've said this to a number of

8:01 ↗ you I'm not sure if I said this last

8:02 ↗ week I am super impressed with the

8:06 ↗ city's strategic plan I think it

8:09 ↗ provides a really excellent um both an

8:14 ↗ like identification of priorities as

8:17 ↗ recognized by the city and with input

8:19 ↗ from the city and kind of a cascading

8:23 ↗ plan to implement against those

8:25 ↗ priorities and then the um the

8:28 ↗ additional I call it kind of like the

8:30 ↗ meta layer of how do you use this plan

8:32 ↗ to make decisions like assess new ideas

8:36 ↗ that come in that sort of thing so for

8:39 ↗ me when I read the Strategic plan I felt

8:42 ↗ like wow this group is actually really

8:44 ↗ well prepared to um as you have to make

8:48 ↗ decisions kind of go back look at what

8:51 ↗ is there on the plan look at and then

8:54 ↗ the dashboards that look at how you're

8:57 ↗ making progress against the plan um I

8:59 ↗ would say you know looking at the things

9:03 ↗ that have been identified as the biggest

9:05 ↗ priorities in the plan and the issues

9:08 ↗ that have the sort of biggest gaps

9:10 ↗ against the goals that have been set I

9:13 ↗ would put those first on the

9:14 ↗ prioritization schedule so um yeah

9:18 ↗ that's how I would approach priorization

9:20 ↗ thank you very much mayor mayor Mary

9:23 ↗ potentially a mayor who knows in some

9:26 ↗ future time um Kelly the same question

9:28 ↗ if you want to press the button on the

9:30 ↗ base of the mic and um how would you

9:34 ↗ prioritize the ISS how should the

9:35 ↗ council prioritize the issues when

9:37 ↗ dealing with limited resources great um

9:40 ↗ thank you can can does is the mic

9:41 ↗ working um yeah so first things first I

9:44 ↗ think the council has done a really

9:46 ↗ great job and the community has done a

9:47 ↗ great job of identifying you know what

9:49 ↗ are our values as a community and that's

9:51 ↗ reflected both in the Strategic plan and

9:52 ↗ the comprehensive plan and so kind of

9:54 ↗ starting from that shared Foundation we

9:56 ↗ can then you know figure out what's most

9:58 ↗ important to us and then where to make

10:00 ↗ the hard choices I think some of the um

10:02 ↗ choices that we make also you know it

10:05 ↗ relates to what is what can the city

10:07 ↗ uniquely do where are some of the places

10:08 ↗ where we're doing things now but we can

10:10 ↗ actually potentially lean harder on you

10:11 ↗ know resources from the county from the

10:14 ↗ state or also from uh private um

10:16 ↗ individuals you know non-governmental

10:18 ↗ Partners um so for example you know with

10:20 ↗ the Arts grants recently there's the um

10:23 ↗ example where uh King County actually

10:25 ↗ has a lot of Arts grants coming up and

10:27 ↗ so that's an area where we decided that

10:29 ↗ or you all decided that the city of

10:30 ↗ isqua maybe that's an area where we can

10:32 ↗ lean more on um resources from the

10:36 ↗ county um from you know the

10:38 ↗ non-governmental organizational

10:39 ↗ perspective you know with the urban

10:41 ↗ forestry management plan this is an

10:42 ↗ issue where I know you know the cities

10:44 ↗ like we don't really have resources to

10:46 ↗ work on this so how can we partner with

10:47 ↗ non-governmental organizations which be

10:49 ↗ able to access Phil philanthropic

10:51 ↗ funding um you know other grants and

10:54 ↗ things like that so I think figuring out

10:56 ↗ and then what are some areas where

10:57 ↗ actually it does require the city for

10:59 ↗ example things like Public Safety and

11:00 ↗ you know as we've seen in the recent

11:03 ↗ budget that is an area that the city has

11:05 ↗ prioritized I would also say you know in

11:07 ↗ terms of prioritization one thing that I

11:08 ↗ always come back to is the Eisenhower

11:10 ↗ Matrix which is urgent versus important

11:12 ↗ so typically you know we're always most

11:14 ↗ responsive to the Urgent thing it's like

11:16 ↗ what's on fire right now but I think the

11:17 ↗ city has also done a really good job of

11:19 ↗ prioritizing important things like what

11:21 ↗ are some of the things that could be

11:22 ↗ really bad but we don't even know about

11:23 ↗ them like the posos issue that's

11:25 ↗ something where you know we proactively

11:27 ↗ went out and found that and we're

11:28 ↗ addressing that issue and so I think you

11:30 ↗ know combining the um the values the

11:34 ↗ figuring out what's urgent versus

11:35 ↗ important and actually you know putting

11:37 ↗ a value on important things that if we

11:40 ↗ leave them to Fester could become a huge

11:42 ↗ like way more costly issue um and then

11:45 ↗ also figuring out you know where the

11:46 ↗ areas where the city is best suited to

11:49 ↗ actually spend its resources and where

11:50 ↗ we can lean on other

11:52 ↗ partners thank you Celly K if anybody

11:55 ↗ would like me to keep reading the

11:56 ↗ question I can if it's clear I don't

11:58 ↗ need to would you like me to read it or

12:00 ↗ you good please read it again oh

12:02 ↗ absolutely how should the council

12:04 ↗ prioritize the issues of the city while

12:06 ↗ dealing with limited

12:08 ↗ resources thank you so first of all I

12:11 ↗ would like to I basically can just uh

12:15 ↗ second the first two the first two

12:18 ↗ members of this group and I would like

12:21 ↗ to also mention that um a wonderful job

12:24 ↗ that done by the city in strategic and

12:26 ↗ comprehensive plans but my take on that

12:29 ↗ would be not only that we have to um

12:32 ↗ think what's our urgent priorities are

12:35 ↗ or what's our priorities that that can

12:37 ↗ wait are but let's say uh with SE some

12:40 ↗ projects we really have to have a

12:42 ↗ conversation with other responsible

12:45 ↗ parties and get support from them for

12:48 ↗ example one of the projects that I was

12:50 ↗ advocating for was a

12:51 ↗ Metroflex and I was very happy that it

12:54 ↗ got a support uh one and a half year ago

12:57 ↗ and I know that now we are in a little

12:59 ↗ bit in a crisis with that and I'm really

13:02 ↗ hoping and looking forward to uh the

13:04 ↗ King County Metro to be able to help us

13:07 ↗ with that uh and maybe some private uh

13:11 ↗ or private investors that can also help

13:15 ↗ supporting this uh kind of projects so

13:18 ↗ that is my take on that thank you much

13:22 ↗ Chris good evening so I the resources

13:25 ↗ are there having worked on the Strategic

13:27 ↗ plan task force as a coach share

13:29 ↗ collaborating with council president

13:31 ↗ Walsh council member Tola um looking at

13:35 ↗ you know that's our that's our Northstar

13:38 ↗ right so our Northstar is already set

13:39 ↗ with the their strategic plan itself so

13:42 ↗ now what are we doing to work within

13:44 ↗ that as far as the priorities itself so

13:46 ↗ you got the mobility you have the

13:48 ↗ economic vitality and development you

13:51 ↗ have civil services in that so to tati

13:55 ↗ kti as a point with the Metroflex

13:58 ↗ hearing continue to utilize the

14:00 ↗ resources within the public continuing

14:04 ↗ to seek feedback from the actual

14:07 ↗ community members that's important the

14:09 ↗ the the committee that we had had an

14:11 ↗ aspect from everybody we had a community

14:14 ↗ members we had boards and commissions we

14:16 ↗ had city council the mayor was involved

14:19 ↗ our city Administration was involved and

14:22 ↗ that's the resources that we necessarily

14:24 ↗ need to set the priorities that we

14:26 ↗ already have in place which is the

14:28 ↗ Strategic plan comprehensive plan is

14:30 ↗ over that but their strategic plan is

14:32 ↗ what we already have in place so when we

14:34 ↗ look at the actual public survey Public

14:38 ↗ Safety is something we heard tonight

14:40 ↗ that is really important continuing to

14:42 ↗ focus on how can we better our response

14:44 ↗ times in our Police Department how we

14:46 ↗ can provide fire you know resilience

14:49 ↗ with our within our community with the

14:51 ↗ fire resiliency and maybe looking at how

14:54 ↗ we are going to better prepare for

14:56 ↗ emergency situations both residentially

14:58 ↗ and and business-wise speed to get back

15:01 ↗ to business right business resiliency is

15:03 ↗ important we had the bomb Cyclone so the

15:06 ↗ resources that are there we just can

15:08 ↗ continue to add on to that by either

15:11 ↗ seeking additional resources from within

15:14 ↗ or looking for resources from without

15:16 ↗ but always keeping the public first and

15:18 ↗ foremost in everything we do that's our

15:20 ↗ resource that we really need to because

15:21 ↗ that's what we ultimately are about is a

15:24 ↗ community and then on top of that you

15:27 ↗ look at the economic development plan

15:28 ↗ that under that which I also worked on

15:31 ↗ and the actual environmental plan that

15:33 ↗ are under there the plans are under

15:34 ↗ there so again we have the resource so

15:36 ↗ since it's continuing to now hold

15:38 ↗ ourselves accountable

15:40 ↗ to make those actions go on those plans

15:44 ↗ the plan set so I think we have the

15:47 ↗ resources thank you Chris

15:50 ↗ Eric thank you um as uh Kat you said I I

15:55 ↗ like everything that's been said I think

15:56 ↗ we have a great group of people here who

15:59 ↗ obviously care very much about the city

16:01 ↗ I I think there are two um two things

16:04 ↗ that I think I bring to the table and in

16:07 ↗ regard to um understanding the

16:10 ↗ relationship between our strategic

16:12 ↗ objectives and our budget and um I

16:17 ↗ always um when it when it comes to

16:20 ↗ project development or for the food bank

16:23 ↗ for example the question is well what

16:26 ↗ what can we not do and spend money on

16:28 ↗ and what are the risks of not doing

16:30 ↗ those things so if we wanted to advance

16:33 ↗ all of the Strategic plan objectives how

16:37 ↗ far can we afford to go with each one of

16:39 ↗ them while understanding that if we

16:42 ↗ don't go far enough that the risks of

16:45 ↗ not doing that may outweigh the the

16:48 ↗ financial benefit of not spending that

16:50 ↗ money so I'll seed my time to others

16:54 ↗ thank you Eric

16:56 ↗ Jeff boy I'm glad I'm not going last

16:58 ↗ Tina

17:02 ↗ um I I think that the only thing I

17:04 ↗ haven't heard on there and I'm not going

17:05 ↗ to repeat um the other because I think

17:08 ↗ they're all very sound is I think the

17:10 ↗ one component if there is if we feel

17:13 ↗ there is such a priority of uh Public

17:16 ↗ Safety perhaps or bomb Cyclone or holy

17:20 ↗ cow sound transit now wants to be here

17:21 ↗ in 10 years instead of 20 I I think

17:25 ↗ we're going to hear from the community

17:26 ↗ and we need to do our best to elicit the

17:29 ↗ community for any of these issues so if

17:32 ↗ you're saying hey the community is

17:34 ↗ feeling that this is a priority will we

17:36 ↗ go back and start with the Strategic

17:37 ↗ plan to make sure okay well let's make

17:39 ↗ sure that that is in the in the in in in

17:42 ↗ our guiding principles of what are the

17:43 ↗ six important things then let's further

17:46 ↗ validate it with okay if this is as big

17:49 ↗ an issue that everyone is saying either

17:52 ↗ with surveys or open houses or the road

17:54 ↗ show I'd mention those types of things

17:55 ↗ let's validate that it is that kind of

17:57 ↗ priority you you'll hear it if it's a

17:58 ↗ priority I I I don't need to tell you

18:00 ↗ that I'm sure you guys are made aware of

18:02 ↗ when there's some new uh issue that a

18:04 ↗ lot of people feel passionate about

18:06 ↗ they're going to they're going to bring

18:07 ↗ it to you and I think I think there's

18:09 ↗ reason for precedents but I don't think

18:11 ↗ that they always should be Ironclad

18:14 ↗ there are parts of the budget that I've

18:16 ↗ learned obviously are look these are

18:19 ↗ locked down these are areas we will not

18:21 ↗ and shall not touch either because of

18:22 ↗ the Strategic plan or Public Safety but

18:26 ↗ I do think there are other places and

18:28 ↗ we're living in an evolving Society

18:29 ↗ right now where we may not be able to

18:31 ↗ even anticipate or be aware of what the

18:33 ↗ big issue is and I'd love to hear what

18:35 ↗ the council thought of a pandemic in

18:37 ↗ 2016 uh I'm sure there was almost

18:39 ↗ nothing you know in in the book there I

18:42 ↗ think it's important um to have the

18:44 ↗ flexibility to look at different times I

18:47 ↗ I was uh impressed and Chris this isn't

18:49 ↗ a

18:50 ↗ a a patronizing thing but you had

18:52 ↗ mentioned during the bond the bond it

18:54 ↗ was a really hot topic and is a Hot

18:56 ↗ Topic um but at the meeting there are

18:59 ↗ there had been certain areas where the

19:01 ↗ council did not get involved with yet

19:04 ↗ because of the public uh I'm not going

19:06 ↗ to say outcry public concern in those

19:07 ↗ things it was time to maybe adapt with

19:09 ↗ that and maybe weigh in on something

19:11 ↗ like that so I thought that was a good

19:12 ↗ example of hey we've done things a

19:14 ↗ certain way but it doesn't mean we

19:15 ↗ always have to do them that way and I

19:17 ↗ and I think every any organization that

19:19 ↗ is a learning organization has to always

19:21 ↗ be able to be flexible on that awesome

19:24 ↗ thanks Jeff Tina you drew the

19:26 ↗ metaphorical Short Straw so

19:29 ↗ happy to get any straw but you do get to

19:30 ↗ go first next time sounds good um yes so

19:34 ↗ I love um all of these ideas I think

19:37 ↗ that they're really um wonderful I think

19:39 ↗ think something that I would add uh that

19:41 ↗ I haven't heard here is um how we can uh

19:44 ↗ really be asking questions as a council

19:46 ↗ um about the impact of the dollars that

19:48 ↗ we are spending the dollars that we do

19:49 ↗ have where is our scope of um action

19:52 ↗ going to be and I think um prioritizing

19:55 ↗ impact of dollars spent would be a great

19:56 ↗ way to address that and one uh thing

19:58 ↗ that I would want to do is to expand um

20:01 ↗ it's kind of counter um indicative but

20:04 ↗ essentially looking at expanding our

20:05 ↗ City's conceptualization of what Public

20:07 ↗ Safety entails and so thinking about um

20:11 ↗ how safety doesn't just mean to my

20:14 ↗ person and property but it also means

20:16 ↗ for housing and it means for food and

20:18 ↗ resource and ability to live in a system

20:21 ↗ where my health care cost are not going

20:23 ↗ to bankrupt me and my family um and so

20:26 ↗ I've had Direct experience uh with the

20:28 ↗ impact of carceral logic I've written

20:30 ↗ literally um in the same car you know

20:33 ↗ with police and been to houses um doing

20:36 ↗ probation checkups I've sat with clients

20:39 ↗ in court um I've witnessed parents

20:41 ↗ having their rights severed I testified

20:43 ↗ I've been a party to that system and I

20:45 ↗ can um really uh give witness to the

20:50 ↗ destruction and harm that it reeks in

20:52 ↗ communities especially communities of

20:53 ↗ color and those who are marginalized so

20:56 ↗ I just want to say that I while I um

20:58 ↗ believe in and supporting an effective

21:00 ↗ police work um and I don't want to say

21:03 ↗ that we need to divert all these funds I

21:05 ↗ just think that if we think about where

21:06 ↗ we're spending our money um what what's

21:08 ↗ the impact going to be and kind of

21:10 ↗ speaking to the point that I had uh made

21:12 ↗ last week when thinking about moving

21:14 ↗ Upstream where our do dollars are going

21:16 ↗ to be spent um in a way that's actually

21:18 ↗ going to be making um a difference in

21:21 ↗ people's lives you know something that

21:23 ↗ happened to um us on day one in isqua um

21:26 ↗ my family was a victim of crime our

21:28 ↗ moving van our our moving truck a 26t

21:31 ↗ long truck was stolen from the Motel 6

21:34 ↗ um it was taken to a neighboring

21:35 ↗ Community dumped out ransacked um and

21:38 ↗ all of our possessions were essentially

21:40 ↗ thrown kind of down a hillside into

21:43 ↗ Blackberry Bramble some of them are

21:44 ↗ actually taken and stolen and have never

21:45 ↗ been recovered so I owe the fact that I

21:48 ↗ have today my baby my kids baby books

21:52 ↗ with their little Footprints to good

21:54 ↗ police work so I just want to say like I

21:56 ↗ I embody this like as a real need in our

21:59 ↗ community that safety is really

22:00 ↗ important and that you know it's

22:02 ↗ dismaying to hear about um assaults

22:05 ↗ happening in our town but I also know

22:06 ↗ that we have to move upstream and to be

22:08 ↗ able to really address that issue we

22:09 ↗ have to spend the money really wisely

22:11 ↗ and I know the ways you know that we

22:13 ↗ need to do that are not always um so

22:16 ↗ quantifiable as metrics that police can

22:19 ↗ provide you know about how many arrests

22:21 ↗ have been made it's harder just count

22:23 ↗ something that never happens but that's

22:24 ↗ really what I want I want that to have

22:26 ↗ never happened to any family including

22:28 ↗ my own and I know those are the answers

22:29 ↗ that we need thank you Tina the second

22:33 ↗ question that uh we're going to ask this

22:36 ↗ evening is you have now heard from all

22:38 ↗ of the other candidates twice and been

22:41 ↗ able to read their material so Tina why

22:44 ↗ should we pick

22:51 ↗ you it's a little bit of a double-edged

22:53 ↗ sword than to go cuz I'm all like I know

22:56 ↗ I know okay here we go again take some

22:58 ↗ water or yeah take some water we're

23:01 ↗ having a water break thank

23:04 ↗ you what te are best thank you okay so

23:09 ↗ um basically I believe that I'm uniquely

23:12 ↗ qualified um because I have experience

23:15 ↗ that I don't see represented on this

23:16 ↗ Council um and like I mentioned

23:18 ↗ beforehand like having experience um

23:20 ↗ directly with these different um human

23:23 ↗ service agencies I've worked in

23:25 ↗ Community Mental Health um pretty much

23:26 ↗ my entire professional career up until

23:28 ↗ about 7 months from now when I launched

23:31 ↗ my private practice um but I also have

23:34 ↗ worked as a volunteer in many different

23:35 ↗ capacities so I've been a court

23:36 ↗ appointed special advocate in Maricopa

23:39 ↗ County um I last year participated in

23:41 ↗ our point in time count here

23:43 ↗ interviewing individuals who are coming

23:46 ↗ um as part of the king um the Housing

23:48 ↗ Authority trying to track homeless

23:51 ↗ homelessness in our

23:52 ↗ communities um I you know like I said um

23:56 ↗ have worked with adolescents in our town

23:58 ↗ who are struggling with isolation who

24:00 ↗ are struggling with um addiction and

24:03 ↗ struggling with self harm so I believe

24:05 ↗ that I offer um that unique perspective

24:07 ↗ and the person who has been um

24:09 ↗ Downstream in a system um somebody like

24:12 ↗ I said before who you know I can relate

24:14 ↗ to feeling um frustrated and lost and

24:18 ↗ isolated myself as a professional and so

24:20 ↗ that's part of what I wanted to do um in

24:22 ↗ my private practice is really um

24:24 ↗ addressing those issues with other

24:25 ↗ healthcare workers so that we can have

24:27 ↗ more folks in this community working in

24:30 ↗ mental health in a sustaining way so

24:32 ↗ it's something that I'm really

24:33 ↗ passionate about and it's something that

24:34 ↗ I think that um my skill set and work

24:37 ↗ experiences would bring a unique

24:39 ↗ perspective thank you Tina why you

24:42 ↗ Jeff thanks Tina that was great uh it's

24:46 ↗ it's tough in in this setting because I

24:49 ↗ see I see seven people that could all

24:52 ↗ very easily and appropriately be sitting

24:54 ↗ over on that side and and but one one

24:57 ↗ theme I think and and I and I've

24:59 ↗ mentioned this a couple times I think

25:01 ↗ any time that uh a decision-making board

25:05 ↗ like this can have broad input to its

25:10 ↗ its decision-making process um is a good

25:13 ↗ thing and what I mean by that is being

25:16 ↗ exposed to a lot of different things

25:19 ↗ throughout the isqua community um we've

25:22 ↗ learned some folks are

25:24 ↗ so amazing um at what they're doing in a

25:29 ↗ in a very deep and meaningful way I'm

25:31 ↗ I'm a uh I'm an Enterprise technology

25:34 ↗ solution seller I've been doing that for

25:35 ↗ 30 years I I hear from a client we bring

25:39 ↗ together a solution and we have experts

25:40 ↗ I don't understand half of the solutions

25:42 ↗ quite frankly a lot of the times I'm

25:43 ↗ representing I am trained to be and what

25:46 ↗ I'm really good at is I'm an inch deep

25:48 ↗ and a mile wide that's me in isqua I'm

25:51 ↗ the coach I'm the volunteer I'm the

25:53 ↗ business leader I'm the organizer I'm

25:55 ↗ the advocate for a lot of the small

25:57 ↗ business owners I know

25:58 ↗ I feel like I've got a very broad

26:01 ↗ understanding of of the needs of the

26:03 ↗ people that live here that rent here

26:06 ↗ that work here that commute here all

26:08 ↗ those different types of things um can I

26:11 ↗ hold my own on on deep policies

26:13 ↗ absolutely and do I know the right

26:15 ↗ people to contact if we have issues or

26:17 ↗ those types of things yes but I think I

26:20 ↗ could be a very loud voice and Advocate

26:22 ↗ I even just from the feedback from last

26:24 ↗ week I was pleasantly stunned by the

26:27 ↗ amount of folks that live and every

26:28 ↗ different community that watched and you

26:30 ↗ know were very positive but also great

26:33 ↗ gave great feedback and also saw it as

26:35 ↗ their opportunity of hey could you bring

26:36 ↗ this up at your next one I said well not

26:38 ↗ quite yet but uh not quite yet but but

26:41 ↗ again just being that sounding board to

26:43 ↗ to hear that kind of that that kind of

26:46 ↗ focus so I think um it it really would

26:48 ↗ just be if you want someone that has

26:52 ↗ really walked in all the different areas

26:55 ↗ not not necessarily literally but has

26:57 ↗ been in involved so much with isqua not

27:00 ↗ just as a kid but in the last 15 years

27:02 ↗ I've lived here I think I can really

27:04 ↗ bring that view to the community to the

27:05 ↗ council thank you Jeff

27:09 ↗ Eric I think I can I can speak um about

27:13 ↗ the breadth of my experience um but I

27:17 ↗ and you know I've I've worked with with

27:19 ↗ hospitals I've worked with private

27:21 ↗ clients I've I'm working with the food

27:24 ↗ bank um my my goal in all of those

27:27 ↗ situations is to synthesize what the

27:30 ↗ needs are understand what the resources

27:32 ↗ are bring the right people together uh

27:35 ↗ and and work through Solutions um so you

27:39 ↗ know from the standpoint of of dealing

27:41 ↗ with a a hospital project for example um

27:45 ↗ you know you you talk to the folks from

27:47 ↗ Environmental Services as well as the

27:49 ↗ orthopedic surgeons uh and the nurses

27:52 ↗ and everyone in between uh and they all

27:55 ↗ have to feel and believe that they are

27:59 ↗ in fact stakeholders and that obviously

28:01 ↗ extends to the community at large in

28:03 ↗ this context um I think the other thing

28:06 ↗ that I've learned over over the the

28:09 ↗ decades is that um you have to learn how

28:12 ↗ to listen and how to care about what

28:16 ↗ everyone is saying and be able to

28:20 ↗ separate uh wishes from needs uh urgency

28:26 ↗ from important uh um and be able to pull

28:30 ↗ in the right people to to discuss uh and

28:33 ↗ to to find the right Solutions uh food

28:36 ↗ bank is a I think a great example we we

28:39 ↗ realized um through some research that

28:42 ↗ uh we we needed to have our own building

28:45 ↗ uh and we needed to work with the city

28:48 ↗ staff to get uh uh zoning uh changed uh

28:54 ↗ to

28:56 ↗ um to address issues like uh impermeable

29:01 ↗ surfaces uh and parking and so we said

29:04 ↗ okay let's be proactive about this and

29:07 ↗ and we did a parking study which was

29:10 ↗ very favorable uh and the city staff

29:12 ↗ worked with us because we recognized

29:14 ↗ that they were the experts in terms of

29:17 ↗ policy and regulations um and it was you

29:21 ↗ know the mutual respect I think is

29:24 ↗ probably the most uh tangible thing that

29:27 ↗ I I think I can bring

29:29 ↗ thank you Eric

29:31 ↗ Chris one of my biggest accomplishments

29:33 ↗ so far is is being named 2022 small

29:37 ↗ business person of the year by the

29:39 ↗ chamber and the reason why is is because

29:42 ↗ I I reflect back on that is because I'm

29:44 ↗ about the people I'm not I don't have my

29:46 ↗ own intent I did it organically I didn't

29:49 ↗ seek for anybody's nomination I didn't

29:51 ↗ seek for anybody's approval I

29:53 ↗ organically did it by helping my members

29:55 ↗ every day whether it be a Community

29:57 ↗ member whether whether it be a fellow

29:58 ↗ council member whether it be a city

30:00 ↗ staff you know I I I I first I approach

30:03 ↗ everything at my work and on my personal

30:06 ↗ life genuinely through not having an

30:08 ↗ agenda I listen to understand I ask

30:11 ↗ questions to stay curious if I don't

30:13 ↗ know something I go seek the answer and

30:14 ↗ I give the why if we can't and so back

30:18 ↗ to my background also of chaired the

30:21 ↗ economic Vitality commission for the

30:23 ↗ last three and a half years and I've

30:24 ↗ been

30:25 ↗ it IM manly

30:28 ↗ like gracious and like thankful for

30:31 ↗ working with 12 other additional

30:32 ↗ Commissioners just to push along the

30:34 ↗ economic development plan of the city

30:35 ↗ which is allowing us to set the

30:37 ↗ guidepost of how business is done in

30:39 ↗ isqua which was recently passed in

30:41 ↗ December you know things like just

30:43 ↗ Financial act Literacy for the

30:45 ↗ businesses I've LED those classes

30:47 ↗ through that economic development plan

30:48 ↗ business retention to keep the

30:49 ↗ businesses in isqua different things

30:52 ↗ that we work through the economic plan

30:54 ↗ to how to do business in the time of

30:58 ↗ need of a pandemic or when the business

31:02 ↗ isn't there you're you're asking

31:04 ↗ business members whether you show up at

31:06 ↗ their business go to where they're

31:08 ↗ at also serving on the Strategic plan

31:11 ↗ I've seen the the the the benefit of

31:14 ↗ reaching out to the community also

31:16 ↗ specifically seeing the guidepost and

31:18 ↗ how those impact Council and how they

31:20 ↗ make the different changes in and yes

31:23 ↗ the budget I'm a banker right where's

31:25 ↗ the money being spent so in time of

31:27 ↗ budget I'm able to break down financials

31:29 ↗ I'm able to look at where the money is

31:31 ↗ being spent I'm able to also ask the

31:33 ↗ Curious questions as to how can we get

31:35 ↗ better at saving money because I believe

31:36 ↗ that's a big opportunity to enhance our

31:38 ↗ budget is for future initiatives to save

31:40 ↗ the money for future projects such as

31:43 ↗ the fleet like we did in the budget if

31:45 ↗ we have 40 some odd fleets to you know

31:49 ↗ to to finish we should have the money

31:51 ↗ saved up for that have savings account

31:53 ↗ essentially right how are we leveraging

31:55 ↗ that and making money for the city so my

31:57 ↗ finan background of leadership will also

31:59 ↗ do that my ability to also connect with

32:02 ↗ people I have many connections within

32:04 ↗ the small business Community to better

32:06 ↗ talk to them because I come from a small

32:07 ↗ business family so I know the great

32:09 ↗ questions to ask in the business cycle

32:11 ↗ and with that I can bring that that

32:13 ↗ aspect to the council to have that voice

32:15 ↗ to bring everybody to the table so we

32:17 ↗ can continue to move business forward

32:19 ↗ and how to properly work together for

32:21 ↗ development projects such as the centros

32:23 ↗ CLA plan and the future initiatives that

32:25 ↗ we do have like the crossing of I90 we

32:28 ↗ do have a very much need for business

32:31 ↗ resiliency and residential resiliency in

32:33 ↗ a time of emergency so that being that

32:35 ↗ person that serves a council that's what

32:38 ↗ I would bring to you you're good you're

32:40 ↗ good I'm not like last week so I'm good

32:42 ↗ scared

32:43 ↗ me got thank you I'm good thank you can

32:47 ↗ I have the question be repeated one more

32:49 ↗ time absolutely thank you uh the second

32:51 ↗ question is after hearing from the other

32:53 ↗ candidates in a couple of different

32:55 ↗ sessions why should we pick you thank

32:58 ↗ you so first of all I'm representing a

33:02 ↗ uh an immigrant community of isqua which

33:04 ↗ is right now is at around

33:06 ↗ 30% uh not only I have lived in the

33:09 ↗ Pacific Northwest and particularly

33:11 ↗ Seattle area isqua area Everett area for

33:15 ↗ over 20 years I have been doing my uh

33:18 ↗ small business here for about the same

33:21 ↗ time and I know very well all of the

33:24 ↗ issues that small businesses are going

33:26 ↗ through uh um then I'm working every day

33:31 ↗ with our local children in our community

33:33 ↗ with local families in our community and

33:35 ↗ I'm doing this for about 20 years and I

33:38 ↗ have a lot of students who started with

33:40 ↗ me when they were like three and now

33:43 ↗ they're in their early 20s uh and all

33:46 ↗ going through me almost every day they

33:48 ↗ turned from students into teachers in my

33:50 ↗ studio and my partners uh so I'm very

33:54 ↗ deeply connected to the community

33:58 ↗ and then another thing is that uh the

34:01 ↗ moment I kind of like I was able to

34:03 ↗ start my service for the community first

34:05 ↗ of all I ran for isako Highlands

34:08 ↗ Community Association board of directors

34:11 ↗ then uh when the opportunity um uh arose

34:15 ↗ I was running for the city council

34:18 ↗ already and I know what it is to

34:20 ↗ campaign and I took the opportunity when

34:23 ↗ I was chosen for the sorry planning

34:26 ↗ policy Commission and I'm currently

34:28 ↗ serving there and as well as commercial

34:31 ↗ property strategic committee and I have

34:34 ↗ started some work that is my kind of

34:35 ↗ like major thing I've already started

34:37 ↗ some work there the work that I think

34:40 ↗ that is very important for our city as

34:44 ↗ um affordable housing programs

34:47 ↗ co-housing programs uh commercial spaces

34:50 ↗ that are affordable new spaces that will

34:53 ↗ probably we we can get hopefully we can

34:55 ↗ get commercial spaces here that are

34:57 ↗ affordable for many businesses and I

34:59 ↗ would like to continue this work as a

35:01 ↗ member of the city council to make sure

35:04 ↗ this things are done so that's my input

35:06 ↗ thank you thank you Kya

35:09 ↗ Kelly great um thank you so uh why me um

35:15 ↗ so I think one of the biggest things

35:17 ↗ that's really unique about isqua is that

35:19 ↗ our strategic plan has environmental

35:21 ↗ sustainability as a core value you know

35:23 ↗ the first time around what I've heard

35:25 ↗ from those who are around that time was

35:26 ↗ like really like no other City puts

35:29 ↗ environmental sustainability as their

35:30 ↗ core value well issaqua we're different

35:32 ↗ we're built different um and so to my

35:37 ↗ knowledge I'm the only candidate who

35:38 ↗ really comes from an environmental

35:40 ↗ sustainability background and I know

35:41 ↗ that that's really important to the

35:42 ↗ council and um you know the person who

35:44 ↗ held the seat previously Victoria hunt

35:46 ↗ did have a really strong environmental

35:48 ↗ background and was a strong

35:49 ↗ environmental voice with my experience

35:51 ↗ serving as board president of isqua Alps

35:53 ↗ Trails Club um including you know

35:55 ↗ learning from David kapler who was

35:57 ↗ himself on on city council for 20 years

35:59 ↗ I think I understand you know the unique

36:01 ↗ balance of um sustainability and growth

36:03 ↗ and development that isqua has done such

36:05 ↗ a great job of over our history um and

36:08 ↗ also you know this is something that

36:09 ↗ we've been doing in partnership with

36:11 ↗ other agencies like the State Department

36:13 ↗ of National Resources state parks King

36:14 ↗ County and I have you know been working

36:17 ↗ with them already including recently you

36:19 ↗ know there's some more potential

36:21 ↗ Acquisitions that we're working on with

36:22 ↗ King County which are super important

36:24 ↗ for isaan our quality of life here I

36:26 ↗ would also not that um my professional

36:28 ↗ background in clean energy and actually

36:31 ↗ um green financing is really important

36:33 ↗ to isqua so my clients are actually real

36:35 ↗ estate developers and owners um around

36:37 ↗ the country that are you know trying to

36:39 ↗ build clean buildings is a quaz a leader

36:41 ↗ on that and I want to help us continue

36:42 ↗ that leadership but also in my work I've

36:45 ↗ seen examples of environmental policies

36:46 ↗ that are poorly implemented and it's a

36:48 ↗ headache for everyone it's a headache

36:49 ↗ for the city it's a headache for our

36:51 ↗ clients and I want to make sure that

36:52 ↗ isqua you know we're leading on climate

36:54 ↗ action but in ways that make sense and

36:56 ↗ are easy for the businesses to um comply

36:59 ↗ with and finally one thing that I would

37:02 ↗ not is that you know the way the way

37:04 ↗ that I would approach Civic engagement

37:05 ↗ is you know for example after the

37:07 ↗ pandemic I actually started a group run

37:09 ↗ Club um in Fall of 2021 and you know

37:12 ↗ that brought people together in isqua

37:14 ↗ and now it's you know become a community

37:16 ↗ and there's folks there who you know

37:18 ↗ aren't really as engaged in politics but

37:20 ↗ they have opinions on issues so I think

37:22 ↗ to me I I've always kind of viewed

37:24 ↗ myself as like a community organizer in

37:26 ↗ that sense bringing together folks that

37:28 ↗ are maybe you know not as engaged in the

37:30 ↗ political process and um trying to bring

37:32 ↗ them into the process you know I've

37:33 ↗ encouraged a bunch of them to apply on

37:34 ↗ City commission so we'll see how many of

37:36 ↗ them actually end up doing that um and

37:39 ↗ so you know on Council I would hope to

37:41 ↗ you know do Outreach to those types of

37:42 ↗ groups not just the ones that are you

37:44 ↗ know civically like explicitly civically

37:46 ↗ oriented but other groups like for

37:48 ↗ example like the yarn store has like a

37:50 ↗ knitting Circle and I was part of that

37:52 ↗ for quite some time and you know doing

37:54 ↗ Outreach to those types of groups and

37:55 ↗ bringing people together and you know

37:57 ↗ them aware of the city where they are

38:00 ↗ thank you Callie Mary you get to have

38:01 ↗ the last word this

38:03 ↗ evening short shot no um so uh I am the

38:08 ↗ only lawyer among this group I know I

38:11 ↗ wouldn't be the only lawyer um on the

38:13 ↗ council but the particular kind of law

38:16 ↗ that I practice so just a reminder I

38:18 ↗ work at Microsoft and I spend a lot of

38:21 ↗ time and synthesizing and analyzing

38:25 ↗ regulations and assessing like how you

38:28 ↗ come into compliance with that so and

38:30 ↗ often the kind of stack of regulations

38:33 ↗ right what's Global what's at the

38:35 ↗ federal level what's at the state level

38:37 ↗ what's at the local level thinking about

38:39 ↗ how those pieces fit together and then

38:41 ↗ affect the people who are um who have to

38:44 ↗ come into compliance with them and so I

38:46 ↗ think that perspective helps you know

38:49 ↗ gives me a unique skill set to think

38:52 ↗ about what it means to be in a position

38:54 ↗ to be enacting ordinances and developing

38:56 ↗ policies and that sort of thing so a

38:59 ↗ perspective on what the impact of those

39:01 ↗ policies would be and then again just

39:03 ↗ the sort of technical aspects of

39:05 ↗ interpreting regulations and like

39:08 ↗ understanding how what the city is doing

39:11 ↗ fits into what the requirements are at

39:13 ↗ the state level and that sort of thing

39:16 ↗ so um so that would be one qualification

39:19 ↗ I think that is unique to me and then

39:21 ↗ another is this area of technology that

39:24 ↗ I work in so I work with the AI

39:27 ↗ um platform team at Microsoft which is

39:31 ↗ specifically developing AI technologies

39:34 ↗ that are made available to developers to

39:36 ↗ build into their own Solutions and a lot

39:39 ↗ of what I'm doing as the lawyer for that

39:41 ↗ team is helping think about how we learn

39:46 ↗ when Microsoft has made use of those

39:48 ↗ Technologies how we have thought about

39:51 ↗ doing that in a responsible way and then

39:53 ↗ taking those learnings and making them

39:56 ↗ available to other people to our

39:58 ↗ customers and giving them kind of

40:00 ↗ Frameworks for thinking about the

40:02 ↗ responsible use of technology in a very

40:04 ↗ structured and organized way and like a

40:07 ↗ methodical way to Think Through the

40:09 ↗ issues and so I do expect that um you

40:13 ↗ know we talk about when you have limited

40:15 ↗ resources and how you want to do things

40:17 ↗ efficiently I think the city will face

40:20 ↗ proposals and ideas for how to use these

40:22 ↗ new technologies and I think my

40:25 ↗ understanding both a little a little bit

40:27 ↗ of you know what are the ways that those

40:29 ↗ Technologies are being used and what is

40:31 ↗ it ready for and what is it actually not

40:32 ↗ ready for um and how you um approach

40:37 ↗ that in a really intentional way and

40:41 ↗ identify the sort of sensitivities and

40:44 ↗ issues you need to think through to use

40:46 ↗ technology in a responsible way thank

40:48 ↗ you Mary thank you all for answering

40:51 ↗ those questions for the next part of the

40:54 ↗ meeting um we are going to go into

40:57 ↗ executive session like the council did

40:59 ↗ last time it's a closed session and so

41:02 ↗ um this executive session is to discuss

41:05 ↗ the qualifications of appointment per

41:07 ↗ RCW 42.3 point11 per N1 Pern it's

41:12 ↗ expected to take approximately 30

41:14 ↗ minutes action will be anticipated to

41:17 ↗ happen out here back in the regular

41:19 ↗ session um the executive sessions are

41:21 ↗ closed to the public and please stay

41:25 ↗ because there could be a couple of

41:27 ↗ executive sessions this evening we're

41:29 ↗ really not sure how this will all play

41:30 ↗ out um and so now we will be going into

41:34 ↗ executive session at 7:12 p.m this

41:36 ↗ evening uh and we're going to go

41:38 ↗ upstairs for that if the would the

41:40 ↗ council like a few minute break before

41:41 ↗ you head upstairs okay bathroom break

41:44 ↗ drink okay so please stay here and uh we

41:49 ↗ will be

41:51 ↗ back council member Marts we'll we'll

41:54 ↗ see you in the other virtual meeting in

41:55 ↗ a few minutes

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1:32:08 ↗ TOA can you let me know if you can hear

1:32:10 ↗ us I can hear you just fine fantastic

1:32:13 ↗ thank chance could you get us back on

1:32:15 ↗ camera

1:32:21 ↗ please thank you so we are back Open

1:32:24 ↗ session at 8:02 p.m. and I want to

1:32:28 ↗ explain first the next process the

1:32:30 ↗ council had many choices here but what

1:32:31 ↗ they have decided to do is to narrow the

1:32:34 ↗ candidates down and not take a vote on

1:32:37 ↗ any individual candidate at this time um

1:32:40 ↗ they are still uh looking for some more

1:32:42 ↗ information prior to taking that vote so

1:32:46 ↗ um I'm going to move into this process

1:32:49 ↗ now where I ask council members for

1:32:51 ↗ nominations and when there are no more

1:32:53 ↗ nominations I will close it and that

1:32:55 ↗ will be the Slate that they will be

1:32:56 ↗ voting on to move

1:32:58 ↗ forward okay would a council member like

1:33:01 ↗ to nominate one applicant to move

1:33:03 ↗ forward in the appointment process

1:33:05 ↗ council member Ray um I'd like to

1:33:08 ↗ nominate Chris Chris

1:33:11 ↗ richle any other

1:33:14 ↗ nominations council member D

1:33:17 ↗ Michelle I would like to nominate Tina

1:33:20 ↗ Hai thank you any other nominations

1:33:24 ↗ council

1:33:25 ↗ president I would like to nominate Kelly

1:33:28 ↗ Jang thank you any other

1:33:33 ↗ nominations okay at this point in time I

1:33:36 ↗ am not seeing any other

1:33:38 ↗ nominations uh so the nominations are

1:33:41 ↗ closed Chris Richley Tina Hayes and

1:33:44 ↗ Kelly

1:33:46 ↗ Jen um is there any discussion of the

1:33:49 ↗ nominees or would you like to move to

1:33:51 ↗ vote on the Slate to move forward

1:33:54 ↗ council

1:33:56 ↗ president um at this time we've agreed

1:33:59 ↗ not to really talk about individual

1:34:01 ↗ characteristics or anything so I don't

1:34:03 ↗ want you to think that us not speaking

1:34:05 ↗ to you know what we have heard um says

1:34:09 ↗ anything but man is this tough this is

1:34:13 ↗ incredibly tough because we have an

1:34:17 ↗ amazing amazing group of people in front

1:34:20 ↗ of us who we all could have seen on

1:34:23 ↗ Council and so we we just want to say

1:34:26 ↗ that as a starting point um we have to

1:34:30 ↗ get down to one and so um the goal is

1:34:33 ↗ just to try and streamline the process

1:34:36 ↗ as much as possible so that we can um

1:34:39 ↗ really think through what those

1:34:40 ↗ qualities are so just wanted to say that

1:34:43 ↗ thank you Council uh president so

1:34:45 ↗ Council will take one vote on moving all

1:34:48 ↗ of those nominated forward in the

1:34:49 ↗ appointment process if there is an

1:34:52 ↗ objection and I'm looking for one we can

1:34:54 ↗ vote on them individually is there any

1:34:57 ↗ objection not seeing

1:35:00 ↗ any um hearing none the council members

1:35:03 ↗ will vote on the nominees as a group all

1:35:05 ↗ those in favor of

1:35:07 ↗ moving um Chris Richley Tina Hayes and

1:35:11 ↗ Kelly Jen forward please signify by

1:35:14 ↗ saying I and raising your hand I

1:35:18 ↗ I those opposed signify by saying no and

1:35:22 ↗ raising your hand

1:35:24 ↗ that carries uh six

1:35:26 ↗ and0 uh a unanimous vote so we will move

1:35:29 ↗ forward in the process so I want to

1:35:32 ↗ thank everybody who has participated up

1:35:33 ↗ to this point I know you've put a lot of

1:35:35 ↗ hard work and effort and it was very

1:35:37 ↗ obvious to everybody sitting up here and

1:35:39 ↗ to our I'm sure our audience at home as

1:35:42 ↗ well um I'm going to at this point in

1:35:45 ↗ time uh ask the council if we could take

1:35:48 ↗ a a little resuce uh for 5 minutes and

1:35:51 ↗ allow the three that have been nominated

1:35:53 ↗ to move forward to be seated and let

1:35:55 ↗ everybody else either stay for the uh

1:35:58 ↗ rest of it or whatever they feel like

1:35:59 ↗ doing is that okay with you all okay

1:36:01 ↗ we'll take a few minute um recess thank

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1:40:21 ↗ while we are waiting for for council

1:40:24 ↗ member oh that's I hate you while we are

1:40:28 ↗ waiting for council member

1:40:30 ↗ Hall we have councilman marz back thank

1:40:33 ↗ you council member Ms um Just for

1:40:36 ↗ information um I'm going to ask the

1:40:38 ↗ council if they would like to um go back

1:40:41 ↗ into executive session at this point in

1:40:43 ↗ time or if they would like to ask you

1:40:44 ↗ additional questions if they would like

1:40:47 ↗ to ask you additional questions they'll

1:40:48 ↗ have a conversation up here about what

1:40:51 ↗ they might want to ask I'll keep track

1:40:53 ↗ back and then we will do the same thing

1:40:56 ↗ as before I we'll start with somebody

1:40:58 ↗ move around and make sure we are

1:40:59 ↗ alternating and these are not

1:41:01 ↗ pre-planned questions these are ones

1:41:03 ↗ that they may have thought of when they

1:41:05 ↗ were up in executive session talking

1:41:06 ↗ about qualifications they may be for one

1:41:09 ↗ candidate they may be for all three so

1:41:11 ↗ it's really up to them they have a lot

1:41:12 ↗ of discretion at this point as to what

1:41:14 ↗ they'd like to do and now we're just

1:41:16 ↗ waiting for council member Hall

1:41:29 ↗ we are on camera Council raal um I just

1:41:33 ↗ explained what the rest of the process

1:41:35 ↗ will be so at this point in time um I

1:41:38 ↗ would like the council to let me know

1:41:40 ↗ through an indication of your

1:41:41 ↗ microphones whether or not uh just if

1:41:43 ↗ you'd like to speak whether or not you'd

1:41:45 ↗ like to go back into executive session

1:41:46 ↗ or would you prefer to ask some

1:41:47 ↗ additional questions at this point in

1:41:48 ↗ time Deputy council

1:41:51 ↗ president I have a question i' like like

1:41:53 ↗ to ask that is great um and it sounds

1:41:56 ↗ like a few of you may so uh Deputy

1:41:58 ↗ council president if you'd like to ask

1:42:00 ↗ and it can be for everybody or just a

1:42:02 ↗ candidate it's your

1:42:03 ↗ choice sure okay um so this is for for

1:42:08 ↗ everybody um uh there's a lot of issues

1:42:11 ↗ that are in front of us and none of us

1:42:14 ↗ can know

1:42:15 ↗ everything so if you could tell us what

1:42:18 ↗ is one issue facing the city that you

1:42:20 ↗ really feel that you don't know very

1:42:23 ↗ well and how are you going to learn

1:42:25 ↗ about it let's start with uh Chris Kelly

1:42:29 ↗ Tina and then I'll switch it up for the

1:42:30 ↗ next

1:42:33 ↗ one one area that I don't know well well

1:42:38 ↗ I would say it

1:42:41 ↗ would I would say it's probably the

1:42:43 ↗ environmental piece of it but I mean

1:42:45 ↗ looking at you know what I do know about

1:42:48 ↗ the environmental stewardship and the

1:42:49 ↗ Strategic plan I know the foundation of

1:42:52 ↗ it but then I would would get you know

1:42:54 ↗ networked through the different

1:42:55 ↗ connections I do have through the city

1:42:57 ↗ whether it's staff or it's you know

1:42:59 ↗ friends of isqua samon hatry I'm I'm

1:43:02 ↗ connected well with Mark the executive

1:43:03 ↗ director just different things I can do

1:43:05 ↗ to learn about different things uh

1:43:07 ↗ samamish State Park connections through

1:43:09 ↗ the quanas club that I have to talk to

1:43:11 ↗ them about different concerns that they

1:43:13 ↗ may have uh looking at different um you

1:43:18 ↗ know past you know having sat in you

1:43:22 ↗ know 15 plus Council meetings I know

1:43:26 ↗ environmental you know stewardship is

1:43:28 ↗ important to the city so it's continuing

1:43:30 ↗ to ask my fellow council members and you

1:43:32 ↗ know leverage those resources that we do

1:43:34 ↗ have around the importance of the tree

1:43:37 ↗ canopy and and the fire dangers that we

1:43:39 ↗ do have in pose and then how the budget

1:43:41 ↗ works with that in order to you know

1:43:43 ↗ gain a better perspective of being

1:43:45 ↗ better prepared for emergency situations

1:43:48 ↗ but I would that's what I'd ended with

1:43:50 ↗ thank you Kelly

1:43:53 ↗ Kelly can I get you to push there you go

1:43:56 ↗ great sorry about that um one issue that

1:43:58 ↗ I think is coming up for the council

1:43:59 ↗ that I don't know very much about is the

1:44:02 ↗ issue with um the facilities and in

1:44:03 ↗ particular the city jail um as well as

1:44:06 ↗ you know the new um po potential for a

1:44:09 ↗ new city hall so I think you know the

1:44:11 ↗ city's already on a good track with that

1:44:12 ↗ with putting together a citizen

1:44:14 ↗ commission um and so I would you know

1:44:16 ↗ listen to the um recommendations of the

1:44:18 ↗ commission as well as you know talking

1:44:19 ↗ with the city staff that have expertise

1:44:21 ↗ on you know what are the issues with the

1:44:22 ↗ current facility

1:44:23 ↗ what are the needs um and there's a lot

1:44:26 ↗ of different things to learn there right

1:44:27 ↗ there's like it might have to go to a

1:44:29 ↗ bond and then how is the question asked

1:44:31 ↗ on the bond is it like a straight you

1:44:33 ↗ know we propose one thing and it's a

1:44:35 ↗ straight yes or no or is it like a yes 1

1:44:37 ↗ a 1B type situation there's different

1:44:39 ↗ considerations around that so I'd want

1:44:40 ↗ to also hear from the community on you

1:44:42 ↗ know what they want um and you know what

1:44:44 ↗ they think makes sense for us as a city

1:44:46 ↗ because ultimately it's going to be

1:44:48 ↗ something that is voted on by the voters

1:44:49 ↗ but we want to come to them with a good

1:44:51 ↗ proposal um so that's just one issue

1:44:54 ↗ thank you Kelly

1:44:57 ↗ Tina yeah I think um one of the things

1:45:00 ↗ that I ran into When I Was preparing for

1:45:02 ↗ these meetings was um the budget and how

1:45:05 ↗ it's been crafted and how that process

1:45:07 ↗ goes as a body I'm not um familiar with

1:45:10 ↗ that process um very much and so I had

1:45:12 ↗ reached out to a couple of um different

1:45:15 ↗ council members with some initial

1:45:17 ↗ questions um and I think that is one of

1:45:19 ↗ the strengths that I bring is sort of

1:45:21 ↗ looking at this budget and not really

1:45:22 ↗ knowing about it and asking for some

1:45:24 ↗ resources and support but also knowing

1:45:26 ↗ like what questions to ask in terms of

1:45:28 ↗ like hey um you know mov how do these

1:45:30 ↗ General funds kind of move around year

1:45:32 ↗ after year and um I'm seeing you know a

1:45:35 ↗ big reduction or a big increase in some

1:45:38 ↗ of our spending um that we're going to

1:45:39 ↗ have to do with contracts and East Side

1:45:41 ↗ Fire and Rescue and other services and

1:45:43 ↗ just thinking about like what are so

1:45:46 ↗ given this what do we need to do what

1:45:48 ↗ are our options going to be um I think

1:45:50 ↗ that without even without the experience

1:45:53 ↗ I can still um analyze and propose

1:45:57 ↗ questions that speak to the numbers that

1:45:59 ↗ I am seeing like in a broad sense um and

1:46:02 ↗ I also think that it's a process and I

1:46:04 ↗ have heard from many of you that you

1:46:06 ↗ just have to go through before you get

1:46:08 ↗ it and so it's a little bit of trial by

1:46:11 ↗ fire um as somebody uh you know who is

1:46:13 ↗ not trained in budgets I I I would

1:46:16 ↗ expect that and I think that's important

1:46:17 ↗ to normalize that process for any of us

1:46:19 ↗ that there will be lots of things um

1:46:21 ↗ whoever takes on this role um that we'll

1:46:24 ↗ just have to go through and then we will

1:46:25 ↗ know more about it and so I think the

1:46:27 ↗ important part is figuring out like

1:46:28 ↗ having that open-minded uh open-minded

1:46:30 ↗ and like beginner mind about it thank

1:46:33 ↗ you Tina thank you Deputy council

1:46:35 ↗ president that was a great question

1:46:36 ↗ council president did you also put your

1:46:37 ↗ microphone up council president so one

1:46:41 ↗ of the issues that I think we can all

1:46:44 ↗ agree is at crisis point is housing and

1:46:48 ↗ the affordability and cost of living so

1:46:52 ↗ I I would like you to speak to what you

1:46:56 ↗ know about housing what you see as the

1:46:58 ↗ problem and any ways that you would want

1:47:02 ↗ to address that on Council thank you

1:47:05 ↗ council president and that will be going

1:47:07 ↗ with Tina Chris and then

1:47:12 ↗ Kelly so my understanding is that we're

1:47:15 ↗ having a problem that's um happening

1:47:18 ↗ Nationwide um which is that we have a

1:47:20 ↗ trouble with affordability and

1:47:21 ↗ availability here in town and so um we

1:47:25 ↗ are tasked um as Kelly mentioned earlier

1:47:28 ↗ with we know that we are really unique

1:47:29 ↗ and special and that we also do have

1:47:31 ↗ these goals around protecting the

1:47:33 ↗ forests that we live in here and so I

1:47:35 ↗ think that there have been some policies

1:47:37 ↗ um in favor of that that have restricted

1:47:40 ↗ some of our land land use um initiatives

1:47:43 ↗ and policies that have gone into play

1:47:45 ↗ but I see um and I believe the council

1:47:47 ↗ sees this as well as our imperative to

1:47:49 ↗ build up our missing midle kind of

1:47:51 ↗ policies um and

1:47:53 ↗ um I believe it was Jen Davis Hayes who

1:47:56 ↗ was talking about the city's approach

1:47:58 ↗ with the Continuum of Housing and

1:48:00 ↗ thinking about all the different types

1:48:01 ↗ of housing that a city needs to be in

1:48:04 ↗ service of all the people that live here

1:48:06 ↗ so everything from Transitional Living

1:48:09 ↗ supportive Living Spaces like Leo house

1:48:12 ↗ you know which just got money through

1:48:13 ↗ Arch and regionalization funding um and

1:48:16 ↗ support and connection with our

1:48:18 ↗ Community Partners and King County

1:48:19 ↗ Housing Authority um are really critical

1:48:22 ↗ and and are we're going to need those

1:48:23 ↗ moving forward given the amount of um

1:48:26 ↗ challenges that we face with housing in

1:48:28 ↗ in our area I also think it's really

1:48:30 ↗ important to um strike a balance right

1:48:34 ↗ and figuring out how to um utilize the

1:48:36 ↗ space that we have um down in Central

1:48:39 ↗ isqua in the valley floor um to to build

1:48:43 ↗ um enough spaces for folks who want to

1:48:45 ↗ live here now and also in the future you

1:48:47 ↗ know I um as a parent as uh many of you

1:48:51 ↗ are I worry about what where my kids are

1:48:54 ↗ going to live should they choose to make

1:48:55 ↗ isqua their home whether or not they're

1:48:57 ↗ going to be able to afford their first

1:48:59 ↗ apartment even with two or three

1:49:01 ↗ roommates whe that going to be within

1:49:02 ↗ their price range um at that time um and

1:49:05 ↗ also thinking about housing options I'm

1:49:08 ↗ I'm very excited about um the the Tod

1:49:11 ↗ project and um connecting housing and

1:49:14 ↗ other kinds of services together I think

1:49:15 ↗ that's something that we need to

1:49:16 ↗ consider with housing is like um where

1:49:19 ↗ the housing is going whether or not it's

1:49:20 ↗ accessible whether or not it makes sense

1:49:22 ↗ with transport portation options in town

1:49:24 ↗ um and how we are going to be also

1:49:26 ↗ addressing the the large issue of

1:49:28 ↗ transportation and traffic flow in our

1:49:29 ↗ community all those things are

1:49:31 ↗ interconnected and I think that's

1:49:32 ↗ something that I can bring to the group

1:49:34 ↗ is sort of seeing that bigger picture

1:49:36 ↗ seeing how it is all connected thank you

1:49:39 ↗ Tina

1:49:42 ↗ Chris so just to kind of add to what

1:49:44 ↗ Tina is saying specifically around the

1:49:46 ↗ middle Market housing it's it's it's

1:49:48 ↗ Workforce housing you know we we have a

1:49:50 ↗ big need for you know being connected to

1:49:53 ↗ the small business on the economic

1:49:54 ↗ Vitality commission we hear it all the

1:49:56 ↗ time from our our businesses that they

1:49:58 ↗ want to be able to have their employees

1:50:00 ↗ work in the city we've been hearing from

1:50:03 ↗ the police department they want to work

1:50:04 ↗ in the city that they serve the fire

1:50:06 ↗ department to get better response time

1:50:08 ↗ is going to be huge so how do we how do

1:50:11 ↗ we get to that is is through the

1:50:13 ↗ centralis C plan making it more

1:50:15 ↗ accessible to work with developers to

1:50:18 ↗ get the Ami work within the Pioneer

1:50:20 ↗ project per se but also that Middle

1:50:22 ↗ Market Market housing is really

1:50:24 ↗ important to also look at the the

1:50:27 ↗ availability of the variety so if you

1:50:30 ↗ building the duplexes the triplexes

1:50:33 ↗ those are going to open up additional

1:50:34 ↗ Apartments maybe somebody's wanting to

1:50:36 ↗ move out of an apartment to maybe they

1:50:38 ↗ don't have a home ownership to of the

1:50:39 ↗ $1.1 million average home sale in

1:50:43 ↗ issaqua to afford it but they can afford

1:50:45 ↗ more of a you know $600 to $800,000 town

1:50:48 ↗ home at that point they can then free up

1:50:51 ↗ an apartment that may maybe a Workforce

1:50:53 ↗ person can live in now as far as

1:50:56 ↗ building additional that's where the

1:50:57 ↗ Pioneer project comes in which I've also

1:50:59 ↗ advised on through economic Vitality

1:51:01 ↗ commission and continue to want to bring

1:51:03 ↗ that forward to make sure that we are

1:51:06 ↗ looking at that I also sat on the

1:51:08 ↗ commission the committee to use of funds

1:51:11 ↗ such as the Leo project that the council

1:51:13 ↗ did vote on and and fund so stuff like

1:51:16 ↗ that making sure our money is spent on

1:51:18 ↗ the right processes and the right amount

1:51:20 ↗ of Housing and the right use of those

1:51:23 ↗ funds for housing projects is important

1:51:26 ↗ as well is Transitional we had the Motel

1:51:29 ↗ 6 plan right that did not pass with the

1:51:31 ↗ budget but that was a very good specific

1:51:33 ↗ plan that worked for transitional people

1:51:35 ↗ that may not had a home but at the same

1:51:38 ↗ time it provided them a way to get on

1:51:39 ↗ the streets and I personally helped one

1:51:41 ↗ of those team members or those members

1:51:43 ↗ that was going through that get repairs

1:51:45 ↗ to his RV so that I would have never had

1:51:48 ↗ that contact if we would have never had

1:51:49 ↗ that so I would like to see that come

1:51:51 ↗ back because that was really touching

1:51:53 ↗ just for him to come up and express his

1:51:55 ↗ level of you know needing a home and it

1:51:58 ↗ was if it wasn't for that project it

1:52:00 ↗ would be there but I would say the

1:52:02 ↗ biggest challenge to add is just the

1:52:03 ↗ midle market Workforce housing is really

1:52:05 ↗ important to look at so people can work

1:52:08 ↗ play and live in is sequa thank you

1:52:10 ↗ Chris

1:52:11 ↗ Kelly great thank you um so the question

1:52:15 ↗ um was about you know what do I see as

1:52:17 ↗ the problems facing housing

1:52:18 ↗ affordability so as Tina mentioned this

1:52:20 ↗ is a problem that's facing the entire

1:52:22 ↗ state of Washington and a lot of

1:52:23 ↗ communities around the country and the

1:52:25 ↗ communities that aren't facing this

1:52:26 ↗ problem are facing other problems like

1:52:28 ↗ people don't want to work there because

1:52:29 ↗ there's no job opportunities so I think

1:52:31 ↗ you know if if you got to pick one of

1:52:33 ↗ those two problems being a place that

1:52:34 ↗ people want to live it's probably the

1:52:36 ↗ better of the two to have um and so the

1:52:38 ↗ question is you know we have all these

1:52:40 ↗ people that want to live here and I

1:52:41 ↗ think it's really great that you know at

1:52:42 ↗ a regional level we have psrc that's

1:52:45 ↗ making it so that hey actually everyone

1:52:47 ↗ you know all the cities have to pull our

1:52:49 ↗ weight in terms of getting new housing

1:52:51 ↗ built and contributing to the solution

1:52:53 ↗ um so I think you know there's been some

1:52:55 ↗ changes at the state level that we do

1:52:57 ↗ have to do like you know allowing

1:52:59 ↗ missing middle housing things like

1:53:00 ↗ co-housing duplexes triplexes fourplexes

1:53:03 ↗ even up to six plexes which actually is

1:53:05 ↗ part of you know what makes Oldtown so

1:53:07 ↗ special historically is that there are

1:53:09 ↗ these mix of housing options and so I

1:53:11 ↗ think figuring out and the other thing

1:53:13 ↗ to note there is that you know with

1:53:14 ↗ these adus so far I think there's been

1:53:16 ↗ like 40 ades built in a city of 40,000

1:53:19 ↗ residents and that's the type of thing

1:53:20 ↗ that people actually are very in favor

1:53:22 ↗ of so how do we actually make it so that

1:53:24 ↗ people are doing this more you know what

1:53:25 ↗ are the barriers to that and similarly

1:53:28 ↗ with missing middle housing you know a

1:53:29 ↗ lot of other towns have passed missing

1:53:31 ↗ middle housing bills but where where is

1:53:33 ↗ it is it getting built maybe not as much

1:53:36 ↗ as people would have thought and so I

1:53:38 ↗ think you know addressing some of those

1:53:40 ↗ barriers is going to be really key to

1:53:41 ↗ getting some of those missing middle

1:53:43 ↗ housing uh projects built the other

1:53:46 ↗ thing is you know with the central isqua

1:53:47 ↗ plan there is going to be or the plan is

1:53:49 ↗ that there's going to be a lot more um

1:53:52 ↗ of or uh apartment buildings built in uh

1:53:55 ↗ downtown isqua and so right now I think

1:53:58 ↗ the central isqua plan it was written

1:54:00 ↗ what 13 years ago now and so it's a

1:54:03 ↗ teenager and there's been almost hardly

1:54:05 ↗ any development in central isqua so

1:54:07 ↗ thinking about what we want this to

1:54:09 ↗ actually look like and you know actually

1:54:10 ↗ getting some things built in the way

1:54:12 ↗ that we want to right with the ground

1:54:13 ↗ floor commercial that makes it so that

1:54:15 ↗ there's just interesting small

1:54:16 ↗ businesses for people to go to and check

1:54:18 ↗ out and also you know bring in sales tax

1:54:21 ↗ revenue for the city um and so I think

1:54:24 ↗ there's different and I think it is

1:54:25 ↗ really great that with the transit

1:54:26 ↗ oriented development there's the focus

1:54:28 ↗ on bringing in you know income

1:54:30 ↗ restricted um affordable housing units I

1:54:32 ↗ will say though that

1:54:34 ↗ ultimately like what we've seen from

1:54:37 ↗ most other cities is that it it's very

1:54:40 ↗ very rare for like for there to for it

1:54:44 ↗ to be possible for more than like 10% of

1:54:47 ↗ units overall to be you know income

1:54:49 ↗ restricted affordable based on just

1:54:51 ↗ cross subsidizing for market rate units

1:54:53 ↗ you know if you try to raise it to like

1:54:54 ↗ 15 to 20% Then that actually puts a

1:54:56 ↗ significant uh damper on new

1:54:58 ↗ construction and so that then in turn

1:55:01 ↗ drives up the price of market rate

1:55:02 ↗ housing so I think there's definitely a

1:55:04 ↗ balance to be struck there of you know

1:55:06 ↗ what is the right level so that we make

1:55:07 ↗ sure we're not pricing out everyone but

1:55:09 ↗ also maybe making it so that you know we

1:55:11 ↗ have these newer market rate units that

1:55:14 ↗ then also you know it takes pressure off

1:55:15 ↗ some of the older units that we might

1:55:17 ↗ have elsewhere in isqua that those can

1:55:19 ↗ then become what's called you know

1:55:20 ↗ naturally occurring affordable housing

1:55:22 ↗ and that might be a place where then it

1:55:24 ↗ makes sense for the city to come in and

1:55:26 ↗ use the you know precious few iHip

1:55:28 ↗ dollars that we have to purchase those

1:55:30 ↗ and preserve them as affordable housing

1:55:32 ↗ so you know just thinking about all

1:55:33 ↗ those different aspects But ultimately

1:55:36 ↗ on some level it does kind of come down

1:55:37 ↗ to supply and figuring out you know

1:55:39 ↗ where where does it make sense to build

1:55:41 ↗ new housing obviously we're not going to

1:55:42 ↗ build you know outside of the urban

1:55:43 ↗ growth area we're not going to build on

1:55:45 ↗ land that we conserved as open space and

1:55:49 ↗ so figuring out how to do that INF Phill

1:55:50 ↗ in a far way is really important

1:55:52 ↗ y all have done your

1:55:55 ↗ homework I am going to look at Council

1:55:58 ↗ again uh council member Joe has a

1:56:01 ↗ question and council member Marts um

1:56:04 ↗ council member Joe can I go to council

1:56:05 ↗ member Marts first council member

1:56:07 ↗ Marts thank you Madame mayor um kind of

1:56:10 ↗ a kind of a different sort of a question

1:56:12 ↗ so America is reeling under historical

1:56:15 ↗ levels of partisan divisiveness both

1:56:17 ↗ across the red blue divide and within

1:56:20 ↗ the political parties this Council is

1:56:22 ↗ nonpartisan how would you help firewall

1:56:25 ↗ the upcoming Council from partisan anger

1:56:27 ↗ and obstinacy both in the community and

1:56:30 ↗ Beyond this to all three all three

1:56:32 ↗ applicants thanks then I'll start with

1:56:34 ↗ Kelly move to Tina and then

1:56:38 ↗ Chris this is a tough question

1:56:42 ↗ um I think due to the nature of the

1:56:44 ↗ issues that are talked about on Council

1:56:47 ↗ we are very fortunate that it doesn't

1:56:50 ↗ become as partisan and I think part of

1:56:52 ↗ of what we've done as a city is you know

1:56:56 ↗ set our values of where we want the city

1:56:58 ↗ to go and we generally have alignment on

1:57:00 ↗ what's most important to us which

1:57:02 ↗ insulates it um insulates us from

1:57:04 ↗ partisan politics to some degree in

1:57:07 ↗ terms of you know insulating or building

1:57:11 ↗ a firewall to partisan anger on city

1:57:14 ↗ council I think as a council

1:57:16 ↗ member it's important

1:57:20 ↗ to hear it's it's important to listen to

1:57:23 ↗ folks who might not necessarily share

1:57:25 ↗ the same views on you as everything and

1:57:27 ↗ treat everyone respectfully and also be

1:57:29 ↗ able to call out when you know someone

1:57:32 ↗ is making you know ad hominum attacks or

1:57:34 ↗ strawman attacks based on partisanship

1:57:36 ↗ and I have actually seen some you know

1:57:39 ↗ examples

1:57:41 ↗ of and not necessarily from like council

1:57:43 ↗ members or anything but I think there's

1:57:44 ↗ definitely you know some undercurrents

1:57:46 ↗ of partisanship that can crop up and I

1:57:48 ↗ think very much you know whenever you

1:57:50 ↗ see that coming or whenever that comes

1:57:52 ↗ up say okay let's you know stay focused

1:57:55 ↗ on the issue and not get sidetracked

1:57:57 ↗ into this partisan thing um I think

1:57:59 ↗ there's also um another partisan based

1:58:03 ↗ issue that we're going to be running

1:58:04 ↗ into um on city council is that you know

1:58:07 ↗ as a blue State there's probably going

1:58:09 ↗ to be some issues with Federal funding

1:58:11 ↗ and so figuring out how to build in

1:58:12 ↗ those contingencies and like even if you

1:58:15 ↗ know we as a governing body are

1:58:17 ↗ nonpartisan we're still potentially

1:58:19 ↗ going to deal with some consequences and

1:58:21 ↗ fall out from um feder you know what

1:58:23 ↗ happens at the federal level so you know

1:58:25 ↗ being prepared for that maybe and you

1:58:28 ↗ know with the fiscal situation that

1:58:30 ↗ we're in maybe we're going to have to be

1:58:32 ↗ even more you

1:58:34 ↗ know what's the right word I don't want

1:58:37 ↗ to use the word conservative but that

1:58:39 ↗ might be the just be more kind of

1:58:41 ↗ cautious in how we're using our

1:58:43 ↗ resources knowing that there could be

1:58:45 ↗ you know additional curveballs coming

1:58:46 ↗ from uh other partisan actors out there

1:58:50 ↗ thank you Kelly

1:58:52 ↗ I think it's Tina

1:58:56 ↗ next so um to Echo some of Kelly's

1:59:00 ↗ points um that the importance of

1:59:02 ↗ listening um listening deeply uh

1:59:04 ↗ listening with empathy uh especially

1:59:06 ↗ when you disagree um or hold different

1:59:08 ↗ viewpoints I think that's something that

1:59:10 ↗ um I'm able to do and that would help um

1:59:14 ↗ protect us from partisan um stonewalling

1:59:18 ↗ essentially that happens um and then I

1:59:20 ↗ think even maybe more importantly than

1:59:22 ↗ that though is having a mind that can be

1:59:24 ↗ changed right so going into a session

1:59:27 ↗ like this and getting your packet

1:59:29 ↗ reading at 400 Pages um and then being

1:59:33 ↗ open like you know I have an idea about

1:59:35 ↗ how I want to move and what is important

1:59:37 ↗ to me and what would drive my decisions

1:59:39 ↗ but I also know that my mind has been

1:59:42 ↗ changed over and over and over again in

1:59:44 ↗ those kinds of situations and I am uh

1:59:46 ↗ need to be fluid and flexible um because

1:59:49 ↗ that's how we get we're going to get the

1:59:50 ↗ best work done um and those are

1:59:52 ↗ situations that I've had the pleasure um

1:59:55 ↗ in in working with like the Arts

1:59:56 ↗ commission um when I was first talking

1:59:58 ↗ to Bill Ramos uh neighborhood picnic

2:00:01 ↗ last summer and I told him I was

2:00:02 ↗ interested in city council and he said

2:00:03 ↗ Tina you need to get yourself on a more

2:00:05 ↗ serious commission and I said Bill art

2:00:07 ↗ is serious business all right and I

2:00:11 ↗ believe it is right I because what we

2:00:12 ↗ were doing in the art commission is like

2:00:14 ↗ the grunt work of this uh you know

2:00:17 ↗ Community government um we were making

2:00:18 ↗ decisions and we would vote and talk

2:00:21 ↗ about what kinds of art that we want to

2:00:23 ↗ have in this community and I would come

2:00:25 ↗ into those meetings being like these are

2:00:26 ↗ my top you know my top um votes and my

2:00:30 ↗ the people I want to support and over

2:00:31 ↗ and over again I would be pleasantly

2:00:33 ↗ surprised and bewildered by the kinds of

2:00:36 ↗ things that would come up and changed in

2:00:38 ↗ those discussions um and would end up

2:00:41 ↗ you know oftentimes either changing my

2:00:45 ↗ vote or changing my viewpoint um and I'm

2:00:47 ↗ just so grateful and appreciative of my

2:00:50 ↗ fellow Commissioners and particular

2:00:52 ↗ space for um really driving home that

2:00:54 ↗ lesson for me I think that's one of the

2:00:56 ↗ big um key components of it thank you

2:00:58 ↗ Tina

2:01:01 ↗ Chris so not to Echo everybody but the

2:01:04 ↗ biggest thing I look at when you look at

2:01:05 ↗ is the relationships that you have and

2:01:07 ↗ having observe the City Council meetings

2:01:09 ↗ several times and being meeting with

2:01:11 ↗ each of you multiple times I see the I

2:01:13 ↗ see the passion that you all have and

2:01:15 ↗ you don't bring your political views to

2:01:17 ↗ the dice I do have that same commitment

2:01:21 ↗ because I don't have most of the topics

2:01:24 ↗ that we do go over in the policies don't

2:01:26 ↗ have a political stance on anything it

2:01:28 ↗ has to do with the community first and

2:01:30 ↗ foremost and the people that we serve

2:01:32 ↗ similar like I do at work I I serve my

2:01:34 ↗ my my member if my member comes in I'm

2:01:37 ↗ not going to just force a checkin

2:01:38 ↗ account or a savings account on them I'm

2:01:39 ↗ not going to say this is what you need I

2:01:41 ↗ need to ask the questions I need to stay

2:01:43 ↗ curious I need to get to know my member

2:01:44 ↗ build a connection and really a rapport

2:01:47 ↗ with that person so to really understand

2:01:49 ↗ their needs back to council with Council

2:01:52 ↗ it's the same thing you get to know the

2:01:54 ↗ community by learning your learning and

2:01:57 ↗ observing and and really taking in the

2:02:00 ↗ community's aspect of it along with

2:02:01 ↗ staff's aspect of it along with fellow

2:02:03 ↗ council members and hearing their point

2:02:05 ↗ of views and at the end of the day if we

2:02:07 ↗ don't come together with the with the

2:02:08 ↗ same agreement and we vote we you all

2:02:10 ↗ stay together and I would do that the

2:02:12 ↗ same because of the fact that it's not

2:02:14 ↗ it's about the community it's not what I

2:02:16 ↗ personally bring to the dasis around my

2:02:18 ↗ political view on it it's about the

2:02:20 ↗ community's concern it's about first and

2:02:22 ↗ foremost the policies of the Strategic

2:02:24 ↗ plan that we do have set forth that

2:02:26 ↗ which is our guiding post but ultimately

2:02:28 ↗ it's about that passion for the people

2:02:31 ↗ that you have that you built connections

2:02:33 ↗ with continue to stay open-minded to be

2:02:36 ↗ curious stay curious and it'll get you

2:02:39 ↗ in results the political stuff will go

2:02:41 ↗ away thank you Chris council member Joe

2:02:44 ↗ you indicated you had a question as well

2:02:46 ↗ thank you I wouldn't be a good lawyer

2:02:48 ↗ without a good hypothetical so we're

2:02:50 ↗ going to go through through this a

2:02:52 ↗ little bit um many of you may know that

2:02:55 ↗ our community center was built many

2:02:57 ↗ years ago and there was um some hope

2:03:00 ↗ that we would have a phase two in the

2:03:02 ↗ future so let's say that Phase 2 is

2:03:04 ↗ coming in let's say that it can be built

2:03:06 ↗ and we've cleared all the environmental

2:03:08 ↗ concerns and the zoning and all that but

2:03:11 ↗ we have two competing groups that are

2:03:13 ↗ coming in the youth want the the um

2:03:15 ↗ Center expanded so they can have more

2:03:17 ↗ space to do all the great things that

2:03:18 ↗ they do um but there's a possibility of

2:03:21 ↗ putting

2:03:22 ↗ a senior center there a brand new Senior

2:03:24 ↗ Center uh where uh our most vulnerable

2:03:29 ↗ in our community and the the ones that

2:03:30 ↗ have been here the longest have an

2:03:32 ↗ opportunity to have expanded hours a

2:03:33 ↗ better facility along the way um so the

2:03:38 ↗ seniors are concerned that you know

2:03:39 ↗ having all those youth around might

2:03:41 ↗ knock them over and they'll break their

2:03:42 ↗ hip and then they'll be out of

2:03:44 ↗ commission and you know all that jazz

2:03:46 ↗ and the young people don't necessarily

2:03:48 ↗ want all those old people around right

2:03:52 ↗ so you've got two competing

2:03:54 ↗ voters older population that certainly

2:03:57 ↗ comes to the

2:03:58 ↗ polls parents with youth who definitely

2:04:01 ↗ have a passion for their Community what

2:04:03 ↗ process would you engage in and what

2:04:05 ↗ steps would you take to help you get to

2:04:08 ↗ a decision on which project to

2:04:11 ↗ pursue so we're going to go back to the

2:04:14 ↗ first order we had we'll go Chris Kelly

2:04:16 ↗ then

2:04:19 ↗ Tina I would to borrow this this one

2:04:22 ↗ from the city I'm going to actually

2:04:23 ↗ bring the the two parties together I

2:04:26 ↗ would say first and and really get to

2:04:28 ↗ know what their concerns are press for

2:04:30 ↗ spe specifics around what are the use

2:04:33 ↗ concerns you mentioned that they don't

2:04:35 ↗ want they don't want the old people

2:04:36 ↗ around we need to find out the why the

2:04:38 ↗ old people don't want the young people

2:04:40 ↗ around because they're loud or they're

2:04:41 ↗ going to create noise whatever it may be

2:04:42 ↗ we need to find out the why it's not

2:04:44 ↗ about again what I'm trying to pursue we

2:04:46 ↗ need to come and and untie the knots

2:04:48 ↗ there's knots that we need to get

2:04:50 ↗ through so it would be p getting the

2:04:52 ↗ people together to talk about what their

2:04:53 ↗ concerns are so they can e and hear each

2:04:56 ↗ other and and actually come to an

2:04:58 ↗ agreement okay I I didn't know that

2:05:00 ↗ similar to Metroflex we didn't you

2:05:03 ↗ didn't know as a council that Metroflex

2:05:04 ↗ was being used by the youth until they

2:05:07 ↗ came and made a public comment same

2:05:09 ↗ thing happens with with that the project

2:05:11 ↗ that you bring up now that we get it now

2:05:14 ↗ we press for specifics if there still an

2:05:16 ↗ objection what concerns you about that

2:05:18 ↗ listening skills being able to listen to

2:05:21 ↗ them and phys you know and and con

2:05:23 ↗ connect the benefits of the of the two

2:05:26 ↗ being together the why as soon as the

2:05:28 ↗ people can hear the why now they'll

2:05:30 ↗ start connecting the dots because you've

2:05:32 ↗ acknowledged them you've re you've

2:05:34 ↗ actually utilized your resources that

2:05:35 ↗ you have you come up with the solution

2:05:38 ↗ and you come up with the resources and

2:05:40 ↗ then that together you can come to that

2:05:42 ↗ either an agreement to come at different

2:05:43 ↗ times or like I I attended a a Super

2:05:46 ↗ Bowl watch party this weekend there was

2:05:48 ↗ old people and young people on there

2:05:50 ↗ there was a lot more young people but

2:05:51 ↗ they were at the they were at the they

2:05:53 ↗ were at the party together why because

2:05:55 ↗ they they they seen a a they some of

2:05:58 ↗ them were even watching the game but the

2:06:00 ↗ same thing that that that didn't that

2:06:02 ↗ happened organically but first we got to

2:06:04 ↗ bring the people to the table to talk

2:06:06 ↗ and that's what I would do and how I

2:06:07 ↗ would approach that and then from there

2:06:08 ↗ I would then come to we would come to a

2:06:10 ↗ plan together I would consult my fellow

2:06:12 ↗ count fellow council members on a plan

2:06:13 ↗ that we can move forward with something

2:06:15 ↗ that's for everybody's voice not just

2:06:18 ↗ what one side or the other wants thank

2:06:21 ↗ you Chris

2:06:22 ↗ Kelly uh great answer Chris I second

2:06:24 ↗ everything that he said I think also you

2:06:27 ↗ know being in the conservation space

2:06:29 ↗ actually there's a it's historically

2:06:31 ↗ been a very much older space and as one

2:06:35 ↗ of the you know first younger people in

2:06:37 ↗ my organization isqu Al Trails Club it

2:06:39 ↗ was definitely you know kind of an

2:06:41 ↗ interesting space to navigate um so I

2:06:43 ↗ definitely agree that you know listening

2:06:45 ↗ and bring people together and being like

2:06:47 ↗ and I think that's also part of the you

2:06:49 ↗ know humanizing the other the other side

2:06:52 ↗ kind of getting back to tola's uh

2:06:54 ↗ council member Mart's earlier question

2:06:55 ↗ about you know partisan anger bringing

2:06:56 ↗ people together and saying hey this is

2:06:58 ↗ what we want and this is why and so that

2:07:00 ↗ you're not necessarily straw Manning one

2:07:02 ↗ side or the other I think also with this

2:07:05 ↗ specific example there are ways to kind

2:07:07 ↗ of figure out you know oh maybe the kids

2:07:11 ↗ or the youth with families aren't going

2:07:12 ↗ to be using the uh Community Center at

2:07:16 ↗ you know during school day and so maybe

2:07:18 ↗ that's when you could have more senior

2:07:19 ↗ focused programming and then after

2:07:21 ↗ school school is when the seniors might

2:07:23 ↗ be you know doing their other activities

2:07:24 ↗ and so that's when you could have more

2:07:26 ↗ family oriented programming um but I do

2:07:28 ↗ also agree that you know there can

2:07:30 ↗ actually be like huge benefits from

2:07:31 ↗ bringing people together across

2:07:33 ↗ generational divides um you know there's

2:07:36 ↗ one program actually where they had I

2:07:37 ↗ think like uh preschoolers or something

2:07:41 ↗ go or kindergarteners go into nursing

2:07:43 ↗ homes and like hang out with the folks

2:07:44 ↗ there and th I mean that's just like

2:07:46 ↗ great for everyone involved so I think

2:07:48 ↗ you know having some of those programs

2:07:49 ↗ which are actually like intentionally

2:07:52 ↗ about bringing those two groups together

2:07:54 ↗ I think would also be a good way to do

2:07:55 ↗ it but ultimately you know first

2:07:57 ↗ starting with bringing people together

2:07:58 ↗ asking about their concerns figuring out

2:08:00 ↗ are there ways that we can you know have

2:08:03 ↗ have uh both parties you know use it at

2:08:06 ↗ different times and also have

2:08:08 ↗ intentional um spaces where they can

2:08:10 ↗ come together thank you Kelly

2:08:14 ↗ Tina so great ideas um I love it and

2:08:18 ↗ also would agree with all of them um

2:08:22 ↗ I love imagining this scenario the

2:08:24 ↗ community center was the first image I

2:08:26 ↗ have of isqua so sitting in Gilbert

2:08:29 ↗ Arizona um we pulled up the cities

2:08:31 ↗ around which uh my husband had gotten a

2:08:33 ↗ job in and and was like oh isqua and I

2:08:35 ↗ clicked on you know the city government

2:08:37 ↗ page and Bam there's the community

2:08:38 ↗ center right so it's like burned in my

2:08:40 ↗ mind of like what this town is I think

2:08:42 ↗ it would be an amazing way to bring

2:08:44 ↗ folks together I think there are lots of

2:08:46 ↗ creative things that we could look at in

2:08:47 ↗ terms of how the building is set up in

2:08:49 ↗ terms who enters where um to Second what

2:08:52 ↗ both of these um candidates have said uh

2:08:55 ↗ thinking about engaging the community in

2:08:59 ↗ that process and so creating a um I

2:09:01 ↗ would think it'd be a good idea to

2:09:03 ↗ create a um a temporary commission uh

2:09:07 ↗ with members from uh both of the parties

2:09:10 ↗ that were interested in looking at their

2:09:13 ↗ problem um coming up with Solutions so

2:09:15 ↗ basically tasking the community to

2:09:17 ↗ provide some options for us and I think

2:09:20 ↗ um you know selecting potentially um

2:09:24 ↗ either a council member or um a number

2:09:27 ↗ of the city employees that would be able

2:09:29 ↗ to kind of check in and guide the

2:09:31 ↗ process would be a critical part of that

2:09:33 ↗ and I think um that's something that I

2:09:35 ↗ would rely on um the mayor and the city

2:09:39 ↗ clerk you know to think about who would

2:09:40 ↗ be best fit for this role but I think um

2:09:43 ↗ as a council member it's the idea to

2:09:45 ↗ like Empower um the community members to

2:09:48 ↗ make those choices what to tell us

2:09:50 ↗ what's going be best for them right and

2:09:53 ↗ we can have U really excellent sources

2:09:55 ↗ of data and so in terms of our community

2:09:57 ↗ surveys in terms of polls onlines I

2:09:59 ↗ think that we have options um especially

2:10:01 ↗ uh utilizing social media too and

2:10:04 ↗ hearing some voices and although um it

2:10:06 ↗ can be you know a very particular subset

2:10:09 ↗ of people that utilize social media I

2:10:10 ↗ just think that's other thing that we

2:10:11 ↗ could think about ways to connect to

2:10:14 ↗ especially younger folks um to hear

2:10:16 ↗ their voices thank you thank you Tina

2:10:19 ↗ I'm looking down the rad council member

2:10:23 ↗ this this has been absolutely fantastic

2:10:25 ↗ um so one of our challenges we have and

2:10:28 ↗ we've talked a lot around this which is

2:10:31 ↗ uh Community engagement and we have uh

2:10:34 ↗ boards and commissions and we lean on

2:10:36 ↗ them heavily but that leaves out about

2:10:38 ↗ 95% of the people who live in isqua how

2:10:41 ↗ would you go about um

2:10:45 ↗ structuring uh Outreach so that we could

2:10:48 ↗ hear more of the voices particularly the

2:10:50 ↗ voices of those that we typically don't

2:10:52 ↗ hear for a myriad of different

2:10:56 ↗ reasons and going to give them a second

2:10:58 ↗ to think about your question but the

2:11:00 ↗ order this time will be Tina Chris Kelly

2:11:03 ↗ so whenever you're ready Tina but get

2:11:05 ↗ your thoughts order together thank you

2:11:08 ↗ yeah that's a

2:11:10 ↗ really uh you know like I think probably

2:11:12 ↗ a fairly common problem right like the

2:11:13 ↗ folks that show up to the meetings that

2:11:15 ↗ post the comments like um it's just a

2:11:17 ↗ very small section of our community so

2:11:19 ↗ I'm going to draw on my experience

2:11:21 ↗ um with the point in time count last

2:11:24 ↗ year and so the last two times this has

2:11:26 ↗ happened um they've utilized a different

2:11:29 ↗ kinds of um model so typically it's a

2:11:33 ↗ kind of a crude census of literally

2:11:35 ↗ going out and Counting people's heads

2:11:37 ↗ like out on the street um but this last

2:11:39 ↗ time um the model that was used was uh

2:11:43 ↗ I'm trying to think of the word exactly

2:11:45 ↗ um basically it was like a seed and um

2:11:51 ↗ see here sorry I have I have a note

2:11:53 ↗ about it let me just double check here

2:11:54 ↗ oh a respondent drivon sampling that's

2:11:56 ↗ what it the methodology so essentially

2:11:59 ↗ this particular methodology was selected

2:12:01 ↗ because they wanted to reach people who

2:12:03 ↗ had not been counted before that were

2:12:05 ↗ really hard to count um and so basically

2:12:08 ↗ they focused in on that and then Drew um

2:12:11 ↗ you know based on their statistical

2:12:12 ↗ analysis of the data collected got a

2:12:14 ↗ better picture of who was unhoused in

2:12:17 ↗ any particular moment um in our region

2:12:20 ↗ and so I think maybe we could utilize

2:12:21 ↗ some services like that we're looking at

2:12:23 ↗ maybe um selecting you know thinking

2:12:26 ↗ about what are the groups that we don't

2:12:27 ↗ hear from who are who is that group

2:12:29 ↗ generally and how can we um seed that

2:12:32 ↗ group and so encourage them to provide

2:12:34 ↗ some feedback and we might have to think

2:12:35 ↗ about ways to incentivize that we

2:12:37 ↗ haven't done previously you know like

2:12:39 ↗ maybe there's a way to encourage

2:12:41 ↗ somebody to give their voice and support

2:12:43 ↗ um that we haven't considered and I I'm

2:12:46 ↗ not able to think on my feet that

2:12:48 ↗ quickly but I think that would be a

2:12:50 ↗ conversation to have is like

2:12:52 ↗ incentivizing those groups um planting

2:12:54 ↗ the seed in those groups and with this

2:12:55 ↗ particular model it was like you got um

2:12:58 ↗ you know three coupons if you're a seed

2:13:00 ↗ and then you give those three to people

2:13:02 ↗ that you know in your sphere so we're

2:13:03 ↗ assuming that like you and also are

2:13:05 ↗ connected to other people who are

2:13:06 ↗ probably not getting counted and um so

2:13:09 ↗ it was really exciting and fascinating

2:13:11 ↗ to see a different kind of approach of

2:13:13 ↗ that cuz I've you know seen how hard it

2:13:16 ↗ is to literally try to count somebody in

2:13:18 ↗ a night you know to go into an area

2:13:20 ↗ where there's tents everywhere and

2:13:21 ↗ you're like how many people might be in

2:13:22 ↗ that tent no idea right so I think

2:13:25 ↗ that's something I would consider using

2:13:26 ↗ technology for that thank you Tina Chris

2:13:30 ↗ I'm going to go where the people are at

2:13:32 ↗ what I mean by that is you know whether

2:13:33 ↗ it's man in the barbecue at the quanas

2:13:35 ↗ club barbecue talking to talking to

2:13:38 ↗ people as they come up and get the the

2:13:39 ↗ salmon you know whether it's watching a

2:13:41 ↗ Super Bowl party with the up in the

2:13:43 ↗ highlands you're going to go where the

2:13:45 ↗ First Community is at because that's

2:13:46 ↗ what's important to the community and

2:13:48 ↗ really building that connection

2:13:49 ↗ genuinely by just showing up is first

2:13:52 ↗ and foremost because then they see who

2:13:53 ↗ you really are as a person and as a

2:13:55 ↗ community member you're not in it for

2:13:56 ↗ your own

2:13:57 ↗ intent and on top of that you can get

2:14:01 ↗ the organic genuine conversation started

2:14:03 ↗ with their concerns and it's by asking

2:14:05 ↗ those questions getting to know them hey

2:14:06 ↗ tell me more about you tell me why tell

2:14:09 ↗ me what concerns you what keeps you up

2:14:10 ↗ at night I get the pleasure of doing

2:14:12 ↗ that every day at work so it I do it out

2:14:15 ↗ in the community that's how they built

2:14:16 ↗ relationships through the boards and

2:14:18 ↗ commissions working with different

2:14:19 ↗ boards and commissions working working

2:14:21 ↗ with each of you on the Strategic plan

2:14:23 ↗ or the economic development plan or the

2:14:25 ↗ comprehensive plan asking those true

2:14:28 ↗ questions is where we connect and build

2:14:31 ↗ those connections through the

2:14:33 ↗ conversations that we do have

2:14:34 ↗ organically and genuinely so then I can

2:14:37 ↗ make a better decision share those with

2:14:39 ↗ my fellow council members share those

2:14:41 ↗ with staff and say the real concerns

2:14:43 ↗ that the members have out outside of the

2:14:46 ↗ council because that's where that really

2:14:48 ↗ happens is in the community whether

2:14:50 ↗ they're at work going to the place of

2:14:51 ↗ businesses walking in their doors asking

2:14:53 ↗ how business is getting to know what

2:14:56 ↗ their their pain points are theft hiring

2:15:00 ↗ people keeping their doors open during a

2:15:02 ↗ bomb Cyclone that's all important right

2:15:06 ↗ so I you don't do that by just sitting

2:15:08 ↗ and looking and reading the paper you do

2:15:09 ↗ it by going out where the people are

2:15:11 ↗ meeting the business owners where

2:15:12 ↗ they're at because they're running their

2:15:13 ↗ business they're taking care of their

2:15:15 ↗ kids at home and they want to bring them

2:15:17 ↗ to a Super Bowl event you talk to the

2:15:19 ↗ people there cuz that's when they're

2:15:20 ↗ willing talk like hey I mean it's not I

2:15:23 ↗ don't have to go for the title I'm doing

2:15:25 ↗ it because I genuinely care about the

2:15:27 ↗ people I genuinely care about what they

2:15:29 ↗ are about and why and that's what sets

2:15:32 ↗ me apart as far as just the connectivity

2:15:34 ↗ piece of it because now I can make a

2:15:37 ↗ sound choice for them not my intent

2:15:40 ↗ together as a council we can feel better

2:15:42 ↗ about hey we really truly listen to the

2:15:45 ↗ the community on anything and everything

2:15:47 ↗ that's possible because we got their

2:15:49 ↗ input thank you Chris Kelly great um

2:15:54 ↗ yeah I second everything that uh both

2:15:56 ↗ Tina and Chris said um I would also add

2:15:58 ↗ that I think part of Outreach is also

2:16:01 ↗ you know having good public information

2:16:04 ↗ of what the city council's up to for

2:16:06 ↗ example it is actually not that easy to

2:16:08 ↗ figure out what the city's council is

2:16:09 ↗ talking about week to week you have to

2:16:10 ↗ go in Click into like the document

2:16:12 ↗ Center and then scroll down to the

2:16:14 ↗ bottom of this terrible PDF viewer um

2:16:17 ↗ and so I think part of it is just you

2:16:19 ↗ know making it easier for people to know

2:16:20 ↗ what's going on in the city so that if

2:16:22 ↗ people are interested in go online then

2:16:24 ↗ they can figure it out easily without

2:16:25 ↗ spending too much time um I also agree

2:16:28 ↗ that you know we need to be out there in

2:16:29 ↗ the community talking to people not just

2:16:31 ↗ you know when it's election season and

2:16:33 ↗ we want to ask people for their vote but

2:16:35 ↗ also you know just to understand what

2:16:37 ↗ people's problems are whether it's

2:16:39 ↗ through their organized groups but also

2:16:40 ↗ most of the people that we aren't

2:16:42 ↗ reaching they might not actually be part

2:16:44 ↗ of any kind of organized group already

2:16:46 ↗ and so the question is how do we reach

2:16:47 ↗ those folks and I think that is actually

2:16:49 ↗ a big challenge you know I know that you

2:16:51 ↗ know some of the city council members

2:16:52 ↗ like you all have been trying to you

2:16:54 ↗ know talk to folks that maybe live in

2:16:56 ↗ affordable housing uh developments or

2:17:00 ↗ you know some of those folks that

2:17:01 ↗ typically are not engaged because

2:17:03 ↗ they're busy and have a lot else going

2:17:05 ↗ on in their lives that they're not you

2:17:07 ↗ know drawn to necessarily public comment

2:17:10 ↗ on some issues and so I think thinking

2:17:12 ↗ about you know what are the types of

2:17:15 ↗ what are the types of things that will

2:17:17 ↗ get people to come out um and in terms

2:17:20 ↗ of you know incentivizing them maybe it

2:17:22 ↗ could be something like oh you could get

2:17:24 ↗ like coupons to local business or

2:17:27 ↗ something like that or you know snacks

2:17:29 ↗ or whatever the case may be I think you

2:17:31 ↗ know using those types of incentives

2:17:33 ↗ could be a good way to do it but also

2:17:35 ↗ you know having presences at things like

2:17:37 ↗ the farmers market where people like PL

2:17:40 ↗ lots of people go to that um as we just

2:17:42 ↗ learned like 4,000 people per week so

2:17:45 ↗ just having presences at places where

2:17:47 ↗ people are already going on a regular

2:17:49 ↗ basis and have it just be kind of an

2:17:51 ↗ open conversation to learn more about

2:17:53 ↗ you know what people are thinking about

2:17:55 ↗ I think is really important thank you

2:17:57 ↗ Kelly Council on council member Mars

2:18:00 ↗ looking to see if there are any other

2:18:02 ↗ questions and if not the next part of

2:18:06 ↗ our process would be to go back into

2:18:09 ↗ executive session and have you discuss

2:18:12 ↗ the qualifications of the candidates so

2:18:14 ↗ we will be moving upstairs and going

2:18:16 ↗ into executive session at 8:48

2:18:21 ↗ uh for approximately give me a sense of

2:18:25 ↗ time 20

2:18:27 ↗ minutes for 30 minutes okay you can

2:18:30 ↗ always add 10 yeah okay for 30 minutes

2:18:34 ↗ okay so we are heading back

2:18:38 ↗ in council member Marts will use the

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2:18:42 ↗ gone he's already

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2:52:44 ↗ council member Mars can you hear me I

2:52:47 ↗ sure can thank

2:53:02 ↗ you so we are back out of executive

2:53:05 ↗ session at

2:53:07 ↗ 9:23 and I will give a little

2:53:10 ↗ explanation about the process going

2:53:12 ↗ forward um this process is part of our

2:53:16 ↗ I'm going to check with the city clerk

2:53:18 ↗ part of our

2:53:19 ↗ code rules and

2:53:23 ↗ procedures part of our rules and

2:53:24 ↗ procedures so the executive session was

2:53:28 ↗ used to discuss qualifications and now

2:53:30 ↗ I'll go through the process that is

2:53:32 ↗ listed in our rules and

2:53:34 ↗ procedures

2:53:37 ↗ um the I will open up the floor for

2:53:42 ↗ nominations and so would a council

2:53:45 ↗ member like to nominate an appointe to

2:53:47 ↗ council president position number

2:53:50 ↗ one okay council president council

2:53:53 ↗ member

2:53:54 ↗ Ray um I would like to nominate Kelly

2:53:57 ↗ Jang council member Ray I'd like to

2:54:00 ↗ nominate Chris

2:54:02 ↗ Richley is there any additional

2:54:04 ↗ nominations I'd like to nominate Tina

2:54:14 ↗ haes is there any discussion on the

2:54:17 ↗ nomination

2:54:19 ↗ I'm looking to those that made

2:54:21 ↗ nominations council president once again

2:54:24 ↗ just really really strong set of

2:54:27 ↗ candidates strong set of answers um to

2:54:31 ↗ me I think um what Kelly brings to the

2:54:35 ↗ table is a strong connection between the

2:54:39 ↗ environment and housing

2:54:41 ↗ components um the ability to speak to

2:54:44 ↗ that as someone who's young and

2:54:47 ↗ experienced that herself um and just in

2:54:51 ↗ general a strong understanding of policy

2:54:55 ↗ and those components for the city um and

2:54:58 ↗ so those were some of the reasons why I

2:54:59 ↗ nominated her and actually I need to

2:55:02 ↗ just make sure I tell everybody the

2:55:03 ↗ nominations are

2:55:05 ↗ closed okay would anybody else like to

2:55:07 ↗ speak to that nomination before we move

2:55:10 ↗ on to the next

2:55:14 ↗ nomination okay oh um I I sort of like

2:55:18 ↗ council member Hall would you like to

2:55:20 ↗ talk to the nomination of Kelly Jen go

2:55:23 ↗ ahead uh and would it be appropriate to

2:55:25 ↗ share kind of General comments about how

2:55:27 ↗ I approached this to or should do that

2:55:29 ↗ later would be lovely to share okay cool

2:55:31 ↗ um I think this is easily one of the

2:55:33 ↗ most challenging decisions that I've

2:55:35 ↗ made in the last couple years on Council

2:55:37 ↗ um I mean the council members here know

2:55:40 ↗ how much I turn on things so I thought

2:55:41 ↗ I'd kind of just work through my own

2:55:43 ↗ personal process and and I and you know

2:55:45 ↗ just recognize that we all approach this

2:55:47 ↗ uh differently on the Council as well so

2:55:50 ↗ um for um many of the candidates that I

2:55:52 ↗ spoke to personally too I talked about

2:55:54 ↗ kind of what I was looking for and

2:55:56 ↗ mentioned this with them like someone

2:55:57 ↗ who could do their homework and show up

2:55:59 ↗ prepared someone with that policy

2:56:01 ↗ analysis mindset um which just also want

2:56:04 ↗ to acknowledge that that can come from a

2:56:05 ↗ lot of different places professional

2:56:07 ↗ experience volunteering with boards and

2:56:09 ↗ commissions here at the city uh lived

2:56:11 ↗ experience as well um someone with

2:56:14 ↗ alignment with our strategic planning

2:56:15 ↗ documents or someone could kind of speak

2:56:18 ↗ to why they feel differently about that

2:56:19 ↗ competently and then someone who brings

2:56:21 ↗ something new right someone who has that

2:56:23 ↗ New Perspective someone who shows up a

2:56:24 ↗ little bit differently than the rest of

2:56:26 ↗ us and that last part was really

2:56:28 ↗ important for me because I think for the

2:56:29 ↗ most part looking at the entire field of

2:56:31 ↗ candidates all 12 everyone to me showed

2:56:34 ↗ that they could do their homework I

2:56:36 ↗ think most everyone showed that that

2:56:38 ↗ policy analysis mindset that I was

2:56:39 ↗ looking for in one way or another um

2:56:42 ↗ most everyone spoke to their alignment

2:56:44 ↗ with the vision that we've set as a city

2:56:46 ↗ in our various planning documents but

2:56:48 ↗ not everyone shows up in kind of a

2:56:49 ↗ different way than the each of us do um

2:56:52 ↗ that doesn't necessarily mean that they

2:56:54 ↗ wouldn't make excellent council members

2:56:55 ↗ in fact I think the vast majority of

2:56:58 ↗ everyone that applied would make an

2:56:59 ↗ excellent council member but our job as

2:57:02 ↗ council is hard right now because there

2:57:04 ↗ are two questions at play uh picking an

2:57:07 ↗ excellent council member or deciding

2:57:08 ↗ what is right for this particular moment

2:57:10 ↗ that we're in right now right and we're

2:57:12 ↗ all going to think about what's right

2:57:13 ↗ for this particular moment and um a

2:57:16 ↗ little bit differently um so anyways

2:57:18 ↗ that's kind of how I've kind of

2:57:19 ↗ distilled thinking about candidates I

2:57:21 ↗ hope that shed some light on kind of how

2:57:22 ↗ I've been thinking about it given all

2:57:24 ↗ that I do want to speak to um Kelly who

2:57:27 ↗ I think stands out as uniquely qualified

2:57:29 ↗ in my mind really impressed with how she

2:57:32 ↗ approaches the process of policymaking

2:57:36 ↗ uh and thinks and thinks deeply about

2:57:37 ↗ the issues facing local governments um

2:57:39 ↗ enjoyed uh our conversations about the

2:57:42 ↗ issues um really um think that your

2:57:45 ↗ experience in um kind of the green

2:57:49 ↗ Finance um and clean energy and

2:57:52 ↗ understanding the balance that needs to

2:57:53 ↗ be struck between conservation and

2:57:56 ↗ stewardship and sustainability and

2:57:58 ↗ development and growth and Innovation is

2:58:00 ↗ really impressive I also think um as a

2:58:03 ↗ young person too or as a previous young

2:58:05 ↗ person I'm 30 now like it's it's so it's

2:58:08 ↗ so important to encourage young people

2:58:10 ↗ in in government too so I just want to

2:58:13 ↗ acknowledge that as well you are one of

2:58:15 ↗ the most well-spoken 20-some

2:58:18 ↗ I have ever spoke to in my entire life

2:58:20 ↗ and I think your voice would be an

2:58:21 ↗ incredible addition to our Council

2:58:23 ↗ everyone who sat in front of me all

2:58:25 ↗ three of you would also make incredible

2:58:26 ↗ additions to our Council which is really

2:58:28 ↗ really difficult so um those are just

2:58:30 ↗ some of my

2:58:32 ↗ comments thank you uh council member

2:58:35 ↗ Mars thank you thank you Madame mayor um

2:58:38 ↗ I'm going to Echo that we can't go wrong

2:58:40 ↗ with the three candidates that we have

2:58:42 ↗ in front of us I've been impressed with

2:58:44 ↗ all all three of you all three of you

2:58:46 ↗ have reached out to understand

2:58:49 ↗ uh what's going on that's not always the

2:58:51 ↗ case we've had people make the final

2:58:53 ↗ rounds who who didn't uh do that kind of

2:58:56 ↗ Outreach and I've heard it in all three

2:58:58 ↗ of your answers um but I'm also going to

2:59:01 ↗ be supporting Kelly at this point I

2:59:03 ↗ think that um she's shown her leadership

2:59:07 ↗ on the isqua Alps Trails club uh I got

2:59:10 ↗ to know her on the Strategic Plan update

2:59:12 ↗ task force uh which of course Chris was

2:59:15 ↗ one of the co-chairs on but I thought

2:59:17 ↗ that Kelly was uh that was a August body

2:59:21 ↗ and being a young person in that room

2:59:24 ↗ and able to stand up and uh and argue

2:59:28 ↗ her points persuasively uh took a lot of

2:59:31 ↗ guts and I I've seen a lot of guts from

2:59:33 ↗ her I think it's also important that

2:59:35 ↗ she's drawn just a vast uh array of

2:59:39 ↗ support in the community in the letters

2:59:41 ↗ that have come into to us including the

2:59:43 ↗ incumbent in this position which is not

2:59:45 ↗ um a requirement but is is um something

2:59:48 ↗ that I think that should be considered

2:59:50 ↗ uh so for all those reasons uh you know

2:59:53 ↗ like I said I don't think we can go

2:59:54 ↗ wrong tonight but uh I'm supporting

2:59:56 ↗ Kelly thanks would anyone else like uh

2:59:59 ↗ thank you council member Mars would

3:00:01 ↗ anyone else like to speak to this

3:00:02 ↗ nomination before I move to the

3:00:04 ↗ next okay council member Ray um thanks

3:00:08 ↗ mayor Paulie um I think it's really

3:00:10 ↗ clear that we have we have a plethora of

3:00:13 ↗ riches here and this is this this is why

3:00:15 ↗ we're all really grumpy right now

3:00:17 ↗ because this is a very very difficult

3:00:18 ↗ decision to make and it um

3:00:22 ↗ and and I um I looked at this from a uh

3:00:27 ↗ what will make us a better Council and

3:00:29 ↗ that was my my primary driver in all of

3:00:32 ↗ this was what makes us better what will

3:00:35 ↗ help us uh better represent the people

3:00:37 ↗ here and make better decisions and um so

3:00:40 ↗ when I started looking through that lens

3:00:43 ↗ um I found that Chris um had the city

3:00:47 ↗ EXP experience that uh really set him

3:00:49 ↗ apart his time on EVC um and his time

3:00:53 ↗ chairing EVC co-chair of the strategic

3:00:55 ↗ planning um task force um all are things

3:00:59 ↗ where he's been uh actively engaged with

3:01:01 ↗ City activities understands what's going

3:01:03 ↗ on and has demonstrated leadership in

3:01:06 ↗ those um um deliberative bodies uh he

3:01:11 ↗ also shows up and does the work I mean

3:01:13 ↗ um he wasn't just on the Committees he

3:01:15 ↗ participated in the Committees he

3:01:17 ↗ chaired the Committees he showed up he

3:01:18 ↗ got it

3:01:19 ↗ done um I'm also impressed with Chris's

3:01:22 ↗ business Acumen he understands our

3:01:24 ↗ business Community he understands uh not

3:01:27 ↗ just the

3:01:28 ↗ uh um his business in the highlands but

3:01:32 ↗ he understands the larger business in

3:01:34 ↗ the Chamber of Commerce and and the and

3:01:35 ↗ the working environment here which is

3:01:37 ↗ super important right now as we try to

3:01:39 ↗ build

3:01:41 ↗ out the isqua we want to have which is a

3:01:44 ↗ great place to work a great place to

3:01:46 ↗ live and a great place to play and we

3:01:48 ↗ know one of our biggest problems is we

3:01:49 ↗ have to have um a favorable business

3:01:52 ↗ environment as well as to take on other

3:01:54 ↗ issues such as uh Transit and and

3:01:58 ↗ housing um but he also understands the

3:02:00 ↗ community uh he's made a a living out of

3:02:03 ↗ understanding the community and he has

3:02:05 ↗ built his his uh Credit Union by

3:02:08 ↗ understanding the community and and

3:02:10 ↗ making it that the people who are his

3:02:12 ↗ members are his focus and I think that

3:02:14 ↗ is super important and he has a very

3:02:16 ↗ strong Network in the community both uh

3:02:18 ↗ as a direct result of his work but also

3:02:20 ↗ as volunteer activities he also lives

3:02:23 ↗ he's one of those rare unicorns who

3:02:25 ↗ lives works and plays here um and I

3:02:28 ↗ think that brings an interesting

3:02:29 ↗ perspective he also uh is raising a

3:02:31 ↗ family here and um I think what he

3:02:35 ↗ brings um to this Council are some

3:02:39 ↗ perspectives that we don't have right

3:02:41 ↗ now that I think are incredibly valuable

3:02:44 ↗ to us and to making this the great

3:02:46 ↗ Community we all want it to be

3:02:49 ↗ thank you would anyone else like to

3:02:50 ↗ speak to this

3:02:53 ↗ nomination I'm not seeing anyone else

3:02:55 ↗ I'll move to the third nomination Deputy

3:02:57 ↗ council president would you like to

3:02:58 ↗ speak to the third nomination sure uh I

3:03:02 ↗ was very pleased to uh nominate Tina

3:03:05 ↗ because uh for many reasons um she has a

3:03:09 ↗ wonderful background in human services

3:03:12 ↗ uh I've been really impressed with your

3:03:14 ↗ ability to do research and ask tough

3:03:17 ↗ questions

3:03:18 ↗ um which was very characteristic of the

3:03:21 ↗ person who held the seat uh prior uh

3:03:24 ↗ that was one thing we admired about

3:03:26 ↗ Vicki as well um I loved your response

3:03:30 ↗ to Bill Ramos that uh Arts are a serious

3:03:35 ↗ business because I think it illustrates

3:03:37 ↗ uh we have to we balance between getting

3:03:40 ↗ along with our fellow council members

3:03:42 ↗ getting along with people in our

3:03:43 ↗ community but also standing up for the

3:03:46 ↗ things that we believe in and I know

3:03:48 ↗ you've had a good experience on the Arts

3:03:50 ↗ commission and I've heard from people on

3:03:52 ↗ the Arts commission who very much uh

3:03:55 ↗ look forward to having you on the

3:03:56 ↗ council um I think that your background

3:03:59 ↗ as a counselor uh gives us a perspective

3:04:03 ↗ uh on uh human relations that it would

3:04:06 ↗ be very important on the council and

3:04:08 ↗ your work with people in incarceration

3:04:11 ↗ and uh marginalized communities I think

3:04:13 ↗ is a voice that is really important to

3:04:16 ↗ us as well so I'm very honored to have

3:04:18 ↗ nominated

3:04:20 ↗ you are there any other council members

3:04:22 ↗ to speak to this

3:04:26 ↗ nomination I'm not seeing any I'm going

3:04:29 ↗ to go through um a description of the

3:04:32 ↗ process for voting so if there's no

3:04:35 ↗ further discussion the nominees will be

3:04:37 ↗ voted on in the order the nominations

3:04:39 ↗ were made the process continues until a

3:04:42 ↗ nominee receives a majority of the votes

3:04:44 ↗ in this case tonight that would be four

3:04:46 ↗ votes this method requires that a

3:04:48 ↗ council member wishing to vote for a

3:04:50 ↗ candidate appearing later in the list of

3:04:52 ↗ nominees must vote against earlier

3:04:55 ↗ nominees to reserve their vote for their

3:04:57 ↗ chosen nominee the first nominee

3:05:00 ↗ receiving a majority vote is declared

3:05:02 ↗ the new council

3:05:04 ↗ member um and so at this point in time

3:05:07 ↗ the city clerk would also like me to

3:05:09 ↗ clarify that if there is a tie

3:05:11 ↗ vote

3:05:13 ↗ um what your preference would be you

3:05:16 ↗ have several options one that is

3:05:18 ↗ typically the least desirable for city

3:05:20 ↗ councils is to have their mayor break

3:05:22 ↗ the vote it's one of the rare times that

3:05:24 ↗ a mayor can do that typically in our um

3:05:30 ↗ Council you have chosen to go back to

3:05:32 ↗ Executive session or you have chosen to

3:05:36 ↗ speak again to the different candidates

3:05:39 ↗ to see if you can change somebody's vote

3:05:42 ↗ so um any preference or would you prefer

3:05:45 ↗ to I think we should clarify how you

3:05:47 ↗ would break a tie Now versus actually

3:05:50 ↗ having a tie so your thoughts council

3:05:53 ↗ president as somebody who has gone

3:05:55 ↗ through this and experienced being the

3:05:58 ↗ person who was voted on um I I think

3:06:01 ↗ it's important

3:06:03 ↗ to let the council do the deliberation

3:06:06 ↗ especially when we're in a situation

3:06:08 ↗ right now with three um nominees and

3:06:12 ↗ just letting us either speak to it or um

3:06:16 ↗ if we decide at that point that we want

3:06:18 ↗ to go back up but that would be my

3:06:22 ↗ preference any other thoughts on

3:06:25 ↗ that just to say yeah that sounds good

3:06:28 ↗ let's start conversation here on the Das

3:06:30 ↗ if we feel like we need to Res

3:06:33 ↗ again okay not seeing any

3:06:37 ↗ others question sorry U Deputy council

3:06:40 ↗ president um the way that you described

3:06:43 ↗ it Amir was a little different than I

3:06:45 ↗ understood it I understood we had more

3:06:47 ↗ than one yes vote that we could make um

3:06:51 ↗ and the way that you said it it sound

3:06:53 ↗ like we really only have one yes vote

3:06:55 ↗ let's have the clerk clarify okay city

3:06:58 ↗ clerk C CL sorry I moved so I can see

3:07:01 ↗ you as you vote um yes so um you may

3:07:05 ↗ rather than a must that should be a May

3:07:07 ↗ so you it's just an explanation that if

3:07:10 ↗ you would like to withhold your yes vote

3:07:13 ↗ for a preferred candidate lower on the

3:07:15 ↗ list you do need to then vote against an

3:07:19 ↗ earlier candidate but certainly you can

3:07:21 ↗ all vote Yes or No for any of these

3:07:24 ↗ three candidates we're not tracking how

3:07:27 ↗ many times you're voting yes or no each

3:07:29 ↗ vote is a fresh

3:07:31 ↗ start does that

3:07:33 ↗ clarify is that

3:07:36 ↗ clear CC Mars

3:07:40 ↗ okay okay so I will start with the first

3:07:44 ↗ nominee Kelly Jang all those in favor of

3:07:47 ↗ o pointing Kelly Jan to city council

3:07:49 ↗ position number six signify by saying I

3:07:52 ↗ and raising your

3:07:54 ↗ hands I I I see three hands

3:08:00 ↗ raised um does that require the others

3:08:02 ↗ to State on the record no okay all those

3:08:06 ↗ not in favor please say no no no three

3:08:11 ↗ NOS um the next candidate all those in

3:08:14 ↗ favor of appointing Chris Richley to

3:08:17 ↗ city council position number six signify

3:08:20 ↗ by saying I and raising your hand I I I

3:08:24 ↗ I see

3:08:26 ↗ three uh all those uh opposed signify by

3:08:29 ↗ saying no and raising your hand no no no

3:08:33 ↗ and three

3:08:34 ↗ NOS I'll move on to the third candidate

3:08:38 ↗ all those in favor of appointing Tina

3:08:40 ↗ hay to city council Tina Hayes to city

3:08:43 ↗ council position number six please

3:08:46 ↗ signify by saying I and raising your

3:08:48 ↗ hand

3:08:50 ↗ I all those oppose please signify by

3:08:54 ↗ saying no and raising your hand no no no

3:08:57 ↗ no no see one I and five

3:09:01 ↗ NOS uh we did not have a unanimous uh

3:09:04 ↗ vote of four um city clerk what is your

3:09:07 ↗ recommendation for the next step

3:09:10 ↗ discussion on the Das so the council has

3:09:13 ↗ a number of options now you could choose

3:09:16 ↗ to go back into EX cutive session you

3:09:18 ↗ could run through the three nominees

3:09:20 ↗ again and revote on each one that could

3:09:23 ↗ be proceeded by discussion um I suppose

3:09:26 ↗ you

3:09:27 ↗ could ask follow-up questions you could

3:09:30 ↗ also postpone this process to a later

3:09:32 ↗ date or time there's few different

3:09:35 ↗ options thank you very much and just to

3:09:38 ↗ be clear once three candidates are on a

3:09:41 ↗ slate we continue to vote on all three

3:09:43 ↗ candidates on slate until somebody has

3:09:45 ↗ four yes and in the order they were

3:09:47 ↗ nominated each

3:09:49 ↗ time okay thoughts could you indicate

3:09:52 ↗ what your preference is by raising your

3:09:54 ↗ mic and I'll I'll call on

3:09:57 ↗ you council president uh I think I'm

3:10:01 ↗ willing to discuss on the Das yes

3:10:06 ↗ okay uh and by that you mean have each

3:10:12 ↗ people as they want to discuss the

3:10:13 ↗ different candidates again okay any

3:10:16 ↗ other thoughts on how to Pro

3:10:20 ↗ proceed not seeing any okay I'll open it

3:10:22 ↗ up for

3:10:40 ↗ discussion council member Hall I love

3:10:43 ↗ the look on your face maybe I'll just

3:10:44 ↗ jump in because I'm puzzled so so a

3:10:47 ↗ number of us have have has set comments

3:10:50 ↗ for particular candidates um and it

3:10:52 ↗ seemed like just in terms of process

3:10:55 ↗ some of us voted yes for one no for the

3:10:59 ↗ others and some voted yes for multiple

3:11:01 ↗ candidates so I was wondering if maybe

3:11:03 ↗ we want to take a moment to just reflect

3:11:05 ↗ on that or or if we don't want to if we

3:11:08 ↗ want to just move on to talking about

3:11:09 ↗ candidates I just thought there might be

3:11:11 ↗ value and kind of having some sort of

3:11:13 ↗ shared alignment with maybe process for

3:11:14 ↗ voting or

3:11:18 ↗ thoughts from the other council members

3:11:19 ↗ on

3:11:21 ↗ that because like I guess in my head

3:11:24 ↗ like voting no on a particular candidate

3:11:26 ↗ doesn't mean I don't want to serve with

3:11:27 ↗ them like of course I want to serve with

3:11:29 ↗ them but going just going through the

3:11:31 ↗ very difficult exercise in my head of

3:11:34 ↗ having heard from all like 12 amazing

3:11:36 ↗ candidates now three Stellar final

3:11:39 ↗ candidates

3:11:41 ↗ who who I think is right in this moment

3:11:43 ↗ for that chair right and and just kind

3:11:46 ↗ of focusing on one sing single candidate

3:11:48 ↗ there was was anyone else thinking about

3:11:50 ↗ that a little bit differently do we want

3:11:51 ↗ to just kind of reflect on that a little

3:11:53 ↗ bit or is that what everyone else was

3:11:54 ↗ thinking council president no I think

3:11:57 ↗ that's a good question I wasn't paying

3:11:59 ↗ attention to everyone's votes because

3:12:01 ↗ it's enough for me to try and figure out

3:12:03 ↗ what I'm doing um were there people who

3:12:06 ↗ did vote Yes on multiple candidates and

3:12:09 ↗ if so would you like to speak to that

3:12:13 ↗ and how you might be thinking about it

3:12:16 ↗ in the next round of voting good

3:12:20 ↗ point well that was me and um I am I'm

3:12:26 ↗ absolutely torn I I would love to serve

3:12:29 ↗ with any one of these candidates so yeah

3:12:32 ↗ it just reflects in my mind that we just

3:12:37 ↗ have some outstanding people in front of

3:12:38 ↗ us council member D Michelle is there

3:12:41 ↗ any conversation or comments you would

3:12:43 ↗ like to hear back from the others that

3:12:45 ↗ may help you get to

3:12:47 ↗ your singular vote I I think uh yeah I'm

3:12:51 ↗ waiting to hear what other people have

3:12:53 ↗ to say and yeah

3:13:05 ↗ BS oh uh councilman Ms thank you so um

3:13:10 ↗ you know I've had lots of these three to

3:13:12 ↗ threes right the the way that it works

3:13:16 ↗ is uh we wait till somebody folds right

3:13:19 ↗ that's what happened with Stacy and Paul

3:13:22 ↗ that's what happened uh in a couple of

3:13:25 ↗ re more recent ones right so that's uh

3:13:29 ↗ that's where we're at we just wait and

3:13:31 ↗ see who uh the strength of uh how

3:13:36 ↗ strongly people feel for the votes that

3:13:38 ↗ they've made it's unfortunately that's

3:13:40 ↗ what you get when you get a 3 three so

3:13:43 ↗ council member Mars you after we

3:13:46 ↗ finished with comments you just like us

3:13:47 ↗ to go do the vote

3:13:50 ↗ again yep yeah I guess that's what I'm

3:13:53 ↗ saying thank you additional

3:13:58 ↗ comments council president I guess I

3:14:01 ↗ would say

3:14:03 ↗ in my mind here we've got

3:14:08 ↗ two candidates of the three that I think

3:14:11 ↗ are maybe a little bit more similar on

3:14:15 ↗ um housing and and um kind of I don't

3:14:20 ↗ know what it is that um connects Kelly

3:14:23 ↗ and Tina in my mind whereas Chris um has

3:14:27 ↗ more of

3:14:28 ↗ the um business focus and so that to me

3:14:34 ↗ is just some of the ways that I'm

3:14:36 ↗ thinking about it whether that's a pro

3:14:38 ↗ or a con for you

3:14:43 ↗ um

3:14:45 ↗ yeah that's my

3:14:50 ↗ I think this is a really uh great

3:14:53 ↗ Dilemma to have and this is the third

3:14:55 ↗ time that I've been involved in in a

3:14:58 ↗ appointment and it is the third time we

3:15:00 ↗ have uh gone three three so I think it's

3:15:03 ↗ me it's not you it's me

3:15:06 ↗ um one of the things that I continue to

3:15:10 ↗ come back to is uh what do we need on

3:15:12 ↗ this Council and what can we you know

3:15:15 ↗ what does um everybody bring to the

3:15:17 ↗ party and everybody everybody all three

3:15:20 ↗ of you have great depth of experience

3:15:23 ↗ and dedication and commitment to these

3:15:26 ↗ roles and doing this and individually

3:15:29 ↗ you have areas of extreme depth Kelly

3:15:32 ↗ you are the environmental goddess I mean

3:15:35 ↗ you definitely got it um um and it's

3:15:38 ↗ clear and and that's really important

3:15:41 ↗ and and Chris you you're definitely the

3:15:43 ↗ business guy you understand the economic

3:15:46 ↗ climate and this you understand the

3:15:47 ↗ players where we're going and and what's

3:15:49 ↗ NE necessary there and Tina you clearly

3:15:52 ↗ understand the the Human Services

3:15:54 ↗ aspects and that interpersonal skills

3:15:57 ↗ that you bring are just like off the

3:15:58 ↗ charts and so

3:16:01 ↗ um I'm I'm having all sorts of very

3:16:04 ↗ vulnerable uh open moments today so I'm

3:16:06 ↗ just going to continue on that role um I

3:16:11 ↗ think that what we are truly missing on

3:16:13 ↗ this Council right now and this is why I

3:16:15 ↗ nominated Chris and it's not because

3:16:17 ↗ Kelly I don't think you're amazing and

3:16:18 ↗ Tina I don't think you're amazing I

3:16:20 ↗ don't think we understand the and this

3:16:22 ↗ is no reflection on you council

3:16:24 ↗ president certainly we don't understand

3:16:26 ↗ the business climate here in town as

3:16:28 ↗ well as we could and somebody who could

3:16:30 ↗ bring that that depth of experience um

3:16:33 ↗ and the leadership that Chris has

3:16:35 ↗ demonstrated in the community I think

3:16:38 ↗ makes us a better Council we're a better

3:16:40 ↗ council with any any of the three of you

3:16:43 ↗ um and so it's that's why it's a hard

3:16:45 ↗ choice right because it's is trying to

3:16:47 ↗ figure out what what is that um optimal

3:16:49 ↗ configuration of of skills that make us

3:16:52 ↗ better and what's that um optimal U

3:16:55 ↗ personality type that allows us to be

3:16:57 ↗ this unicorn um Council that really gets

3:17:01 ↗ along and really is focused on doing the

3:17:03 ↗ right thing and not doing the the you

3:17:05 ↗ know the dogmatic thing so um that's you

3:17:08 ↗ know that's that's kind of you know to

3:17:10 ↗ Zach Hall it that's might have been my

3:17:12 ↗ kind of my you know my throwing my my

3:17:15 ↗ thought process out there on the table

3:17:16 ↗ for you all

3:17:18 ↗ appreciate council member

3:17:20 ↗ Joe thank you I was hoping my vote would

3:17:24 ↗ be my voice this evening but I guess I

3:17:26 ↗ have to speak

3:17:28 ↗ um I agree with the members who have

3:17:32 ↗ spoken today that we really have three

3:17:34 ↗ excellent candidates that are vying for

3:17:37 ↗ this position and I think that says

3:17:39 ↗ quite a lot about the strength of our

3:17:42 ↗ volunteerism in town the strength of the

3:17:45 ↗ uh social fabric that keeps us together

3:17:49 ↗ um I voted for Chris in the first round

3:17:52 ↗ and and for a couple of reasons um first

3:17:56 ↗ as a as a person that's a business owner

3:17:59 ↗ here in town um he's really the only

3:18:03 ↗ person that sees customers or people on

3:18:08 ↗ a regular basis I'm working in bellw and

3:18:11 ↗ Chris is working in Kirkland

3:18:13 ↗ and Barb is retired

3:18:17 ↗ but um Chris is Chris is able to see

3:18:21 ↗ various uh groups of people coming

3:18:23 ↗ through his his bank and talking to them

3:18:25 ↗ uh about what's really going on in our

3:18:27 ↗ community with our uh business climate

3:18:30 ↗ and our our economic vitality and as

3:18:33 ↗ chair of the economic Vitality

3:18:35 ↗ commission he takes it a step farther by

3:18:37 ↗ um really finding out what's going on uh

3:18:40 ↗ with the different plans that are going

3:18:42 ↗ on whether it's the Pioneer development

3:18:44 ↗ uh I90 crossing any helped for the title

3:18:47 ↗ 18 land code review more importantly

3:18:51 ↗ though uh he pointed out that he was he

3:18:54 ↗ has experience with budgeting and with

3:18:56 ↗ long-term financial planning uh as part

3:18:59 ↗ of his work and he' bring that skill to

3:19:02 ↗ uh the

3:19:03 ↗ council I don't want to disparage any of

3:19:06 ↗ the people sitting here in or TOA at his

3:19:09 ↗ remote location but we are not budget

3:19:13 ↗ gods or goddesses as the case may be we

3:19:16 ↗ we have um the ability to understand

3:19:19 ↗ where the money is coming from where the

3:19:20 ↗ money is going the restrictions on it

3:19:23 ↗ but I think we're lacking that long-term

3:19:25 ↗ planning for financial um uh matters

3:19:30 ↗ that

3:19:32 ↗ will that I think we need to make to

3:19:35 ↗ make sound decisions going forward and

3:19:37 ↗ um so that's why I'm supporting Chris

3:19:39 ↗ one final reason is is Chris shows

3:19:43 ↗ up I uh went to the port un cork event

3:19:47 ↗ and Chris was there I went to an event

3:19:50 ↗ for the garage and Chris was there um he

3:19:54 ↗ shows up in places like the state of the

3:19:57 ↗ city event he was

3:19:59 ↗ there this job

3:20:02 ↗ is really about meeting people where

3:20:05 ↗ they are and having those conversations

3:20:09 ↗ that are not planned not at a formal

3:20:11 ↗ meeting thank you but they're

3:20:13 ↗ conversations that really get to the

3:20:15 ↗ Grist of what is driving that person

3:20:19 ↗ today what's on their mind what makes

3:20:21 ↗ them get up in the morning and we have

3:20:24 ↗ some difficulty finding that in the

3:20:28 ↗ community because our Outreach efforts

3:20:29 ↗ are not as strong as they were before we

3:20:31 ↗ lost our paper um our newsletter is read

3:20:36 ↗ but not read widely um people are more

3:20:38 ↗ likely to be looking at their phone at

3:20:41 ↗ Tik Tock than looking at a council

3:20:43 ↗ meeting um we need a person out in the

3:20:45 ↗ community like who's going to places and

3:20:48 ↗ has a time to do that in our community

3:20:50 ↗ so that's why I'm supporting him thank

3:20:52 ↗ you thank you council member

3:20:55 ↗ Marts so the hour is late um let me find

3:21:01 ↗ the right way to say this um I think

3:21:04 ↗ that Kelly's business Acumen is every

3:21:07 ↗ bit comparable to either of the other

3:21:10 ↗ candidates she's an executive with her

3:21:12 ↗ company she meets with customers on a

3:21:15 ↗ regular basis she's not meeting with

3:21:18 ↗ customers that are you know uh coming in

3:21:22 ↗ for five or 10 minutes or 15 minutes but

3:21:25 ↗ I don't think um I don't think there's a

3:21:29 ↗ differentiation between these candidates

3:21:32 ↗ if you're saying you want to have

3:21:33 ↗ somebody with business Acumen on the

3:21:36 ↗ council she's younger than our other

3:21:39 ↗ candidates um

3:21:41 ↗ but I'm convinced from my conversations

3:21:43 ↗ with her that she's having the same sort

3:21:46 ↗ of high level business conversations and

3:21:48 ↗ she's going to be able to provide the

3:21:50 ↗ same sort of highlevel view into

3:21:53 ↗ budgeting um I I might disagree with

3:21:57 ↗ council member Joe a little bit about um

3:21:59 ↗ the skill set that we have on this

3:22:01 ↗ Council around budgets but um I think

3:22:04 ↗ that Kelly wouldn't be in the position

3:22:06 ↗ that she's in if she didn't understand

3:22:07 ↗ how to build a a strong budget uh with

3:22:10 ↗ her customers so uh I think that that's

3:22:14 ↗ not the

3:22:15 ↗ differentiator um that that it might

3:22:17 ↗ otherwise be so that's um now to say

3:22:22 ↗ something more

3:22:23 ↗ specifically um uh positive about Kelly

3:22:28 ↗ um I think that the environmental piece

3:22:32 ↗ um we are as a

3:22:34 ↗ city uh a spearhead for environmental

3:22:38 ↗ action we were one of the four or one of

3:22:40 ↗ the founding um a5c cities um we

3:22:47 ↗ you know I started under on Council

3:22:49 ↗ under Ava fringer who took second seat

3:22:52 ↗ to nobody on environmental issues and I

3:22:55 ↗ think that Kelly would continue that

3:22:57 ↗ long uh fiercely uh strong uh

3:23:02 ↗ environmental tradition that we have as

3:23:04 ↗ a city where we take a backseat to

3:23:05 ↗ nobody on environmental issues thank you

3:23:08 ↗ thank you council member Mars and Deputy

3:23:10 ↗ council

3:23:11 ↗ president yes I I realized that I hadn't

3:23:14 ↗ spoken to why I voted for Chris and uh I

3:23:17 ↗ would like to very much do that um we

3:23:20 ↗ have two two very very well-run uh

3:23:26 ↗ commissions uh that Chris LED and one of

3:23:30 ↗ those is the economic Vitality

3:23:32 ↗ commission um I don't think I had heard

3:23:35 ↗ very much about that commission until

3:23:37 ↗ Chris became the chair and that

3:23:39 ↗ commission has turned into a Powerhouse

3:23:42 ↗ commission uh and that's because of the

3:23:44 ↗ leadership that he has uh he has

3:23:46 ↗ demonstrated there and then in addition

3:23:49 ↗ our strategic plan uh uh task force was

3:23:54 ↗ so well-run and came back with such a

3:23:56 ↗ good product and I have heard so many

3:23:58 ↗ people say that is a wonderful strategic

3:24:01 ↗ plan and again leadership leadership was

3:24:04 ↗ there and Chris was the leader to that

3:24:07 ↗ um I've known Chris through quanas club

3:24:10 ↗ and as uh Russell said excuse me council

3:24:13 ↗ member Joe said uh it's getting late um

3:24:17 ↗ he always he's he shows up and he's

3:24:20 ↗ there and um he and I had a good

3:24:23 ↗ discussion over coffee about affordable

3:24:27 ↗ housing and uh so when Chris talks about

3:24:30 ↗ his Finance background and his banking F

3:24:33 ↗ background it's not just for the city's

3:24:35 ↗ budget it has to do with how do we how

3:24:38 ↗ do we build the housing that we need and

3:24:41 ↗ uh he has the background he does that

3:24:43 ↗ every day through his day job um and and

3:24:46 ↗ uh my real concern as has been mentioned

3:24:49 ↗ by our candidates is uh nothing has

3:24:52 ↗ happened with our housing we are really

3:24:54 ↗ not moving along we're not meeting our

3:24:56 ↗ targets and I think having somebody on

3:24:59 ↗ Council who has that intimate knowledge

3:25:01 ↗ of uh affordable housing and how we get

3:25:04 ↗ not only affordable housing but uh

3:25:07 ↗ naturally occurring uh housing that is

3:25:10 ↗ Affordable um we have that in Chris's

3:25:13 ↗ background so um I was as I said I'm

3:25:17 ↗ very torn we've got some wonderful

3:25:19 ↗ candidates in front of us but that is

3:25:21 ↗ the reason that I was quite willing to

3:25:22 ↗ put up my hand for Chris so any

3:25:27 ↗ additional discussion before we start

3:25:29 ↗ voting again thank you for all these

3:25:31 ↗ comments I think they're very very

3:25:34 ↗ helpful okay council member Hall yeah um

3:25:38 ↗ if that's okay with the rest the council

3:25:40 ↗ memb you allowed to keep

3:25:43 ↗ discussing I think it was really um a

3:25:47 ↗ good thing for conversation sake to

3:25:48 ↗ point out that we have some like very

3:25:50 ↗ clearly defined issue specific

3:25:53 ↗ candidates or candidates who have that

3:25:55 ↗ kind of speciality experience in issues

3:25:59 ↗ and I think it's wonderful to show up in

3:26:00 ↗ that space whether it be an environment

3:26:02 ↗ in business and banking in finance in

3:26:04 ↗ mental health and youth um I am actually

3:26:09 ↗ trying to do my best to remove that from

3:26:14 ↗ from my thinking and think that really

3:26:17 ↗ any one of us here on the deis can focus

3:26:21 ↗ on a particular issue if we wanted to

3:26:23 ↗ actually when I think of Zach call I

3:26:24 ↗ don't necessarily think of like X issue

3:26:26 ↗ or Y issue I I like to think of myself

3:26:28 ↗ as kind of a generalist but I think the

3:26:31 ↗ value having experience and issues

3:26:33 ↗ environment growth budget business Human

3:26:36 ↗ Services like we have a whole array of

3:26:39 ↗ Highly professional staff that provide

3:26:42 ↗ that kind of analysis tell us the

3:26:44 ↗ Lessons Learned in local government in

3:26:46 ↗ the local government project more

3:26:47 ↗ broadly across the country um and I

3:26:50 ↗ think our job in the project is a bit

3:26:53 ↗ more simple like our role is more simple

3:26:55 ↗ our our role is to use all of that good

3:26:58 ↗ information to clearly Define what the

3:26:59 ↗ problem is and all and that that

3:27:02 ↗ information by the way is also public

3:27:04 ↗ feedback and public engagement there are

3:27:06 ↗ lots of different Taps that we we tap

3:27:08 ↗ for all the information that we use to

3:27:10 ↗ make decision-making so we clearly

3:27:11 ↗ Define problems right we kind of

3:27:14 ↗ understand the context around the

3:27:15 ↗ problem that's at play what's been done

3:27:17 ↗ before what are the other kind of

3:27:19 ↗ circumstances we need to be aware of

3:27:20 ↗ that are potential other problems of

3:27:22 ↗ cascading problems so anyways all of

3:27:24 ↗ that we understand what the array of

3:27:27 ↗ potential solutions that out there are

3:27:29 ↗ exist and we develop evaluation criteria

3:27:31 ↗ right to evaluate one solution against

3:27:33 ↗ another solution and using all that

3:27:36 ↗ information as a group essentially we're

3:27:38 ↗ a machine it spits out what I this is

3:27:41 ↗ just kind of how I

3:27:42 ↗ Envision city councils right it spits

3:27:45 ↗ out the right answer or the right answer

3:27:46 ↗ in that moment and then we have um other

3:27:50 ↗ evaluation criteria that we develop from

3:27:52 ↗ a policymaking stance right to make sure

3:27:54 ↗ it's working right and to measure

3:27:56 ↗ success and say what doesn't success

3:27:58 ↗ look like and then go back to the

3:27:59 ↗ drawing board if we need to so I think

3:28:03 ↗ any one of these three have that mindset

3:28:06 ↗ to be able to sit here not necessarily

3:28:08 ↗ with a particular policy um focus and be

3:28:12 ↗ able to distill complex information into

3:28:15 ↗ a solution that we're now going to move

3:28:17 ↗ forward as a community um but I I still

3:28:20 ↗ just think just from the application

3:28:22 ↗ material from her speech from her

3:28:25 ↗ answers to the questions tonight from my

3:28:27 ↗ conversations that I've had with her I'm

3:28:29 ↗ just really excited by this mind at work

3:28:31 ↗ by Kelly and I I would I would love to

3:28:34 ↗ work with her here on the council again

3:28:36 ↗ I think any one of the three here have

3:28:39 ↗ what it takes to have that policy-making

3:28:41 ↗ mindset to show up in in the way that we

3:28:43 ↗ do and and serve on that role but I just

3:28:45 ↗ wanted to

3:28:47 ↗ this is me being vulnerable too and just

3:28:49 ↗ kind of saying things as well um I just

3:28:51 ↗ wanted to say you know that's another

3:28:53 ↗ way that I'm kind of thinking about this

3:28:54 ↗ is kind of stripping that from it and

3:28:56 ↗ thinking what is the policymaking mind

3:28:59 ↗ that I want to work next to as we go

3:29:02 ↗ through the process

3:29:04 ↗ together thank

3:29:06 ↗ you okay looking around as well for

3:29:09 ↗ comments uh before I do another round of

3:29:13 ↗ candidate voting anybody wanting to make

3:29:16 ↗ more comments looking at council member

3:29:18 ↗ Mars okay it is the same process as

3:29:21 ↗ before I pull it back up all the three

3:29:24 ↗ candidates are still on the

3:29:27 ↗ Slate um and I will go through as they

3:29:30 ↗ were originally

3:29:32 ↗ nominated all those in favor of

3:29:34 ↗ appointing Kaye J Kaye sorry Kelly Kelly

3:29:39 ↗ Jang yeah different person to city

3:29:41 ↗ council position number six signify by

3:29:43 ↗ saying I and raising your hand

3:29:47 ↗ i i

3:29:48 ↗ i and those

3:29:52 ↗ opposed no no no that is three for and

3:29:56 ↗ three against um I will move to the next

3:30:00 ↗ nominee all those in favor of appointing

3:30:04 ↗ um threw out my order Chris Richley um

3:30:08 ↗ to city council position number six

3:30:10 ↗ signify by saying I and raising your

3:30:12 ↗ hand I

3:30:14 ↗ I see three those

3:30:17 ↗ opposed no no three for three against

3:30:22 ↗ and I will go to the last person on our

3:30:24 ↗ slate um all those in favor of

3:30:27 ↗ appointing Tina Hayes to city council

3:30:29 ↗ position number six signify by saying I

3:30:31 ↗ and raising your

3:30:33 ↗ hand I

3:30:36 ↗ I those

3:30:39 ↗ opposed n two in favor and four against

3:30:44 ↗ uh we do not have a clear for vote

3:30:48 ↗ candidate on our slate council member

3:30:51 ↗ Ray so maybe it's time to have that

3:30:54 ↗ discussion about how we break a

3:30:58 ↗ tie so um you have I'll let the clerk go

3:31:04 ↗ over it better than I can but to break a

3:31:08 ↗ tie well I suppose that uh the vote

3:31:12 ↗ would be announced and then you could

3:31:14 ↗ choose to St State your vote so is the

3:31:18 ↗ question whether or not the mayor wants

3:31:20 ↗ to break the tie or does the mayor just

3:31:23 ↗ decide to break the tie well I think

3:31:25 ↗ it's healthy that like previously you

3:31:28 ↗ had the conversation before about the

3:31:31 ↗ expectation um in advance so the council

3:31:34 ↗ and applicants knew what was going on

3:31:36 ↗ but um you have the the right to break

3:31:39 ↗ the tie a tie vote unless it has to deal

3:31:43 ↗ with an ordinance or franchise

3:31:46 ↗ for the payment of money which this is

3:31:48 ↗ none of those so that is that is you

3:31:51 ↗ have the ability to to choose to do

3:31:56 ↗ that is this a

3:32:00 ↗ tie is this defined as a

3:32:04 ↗ tie a a three three vote Yes which is

3:32:09 ↗ why we have

3:32:11 ↗ particular so I think the time to do it

3:32:14 ↗ might be um might be when that vote is

3:32:17 ↗ announced so this round is done so if

3:32:20 ↗ there was to be a third

3:32:23 ↗ round and this is why we have a seven

3:32:26 ↗ member city council to minimize these

3:32:30 ↗ situations so is the discussion for the

3:32:32 ↗ council right now to decide if this is

3:32:36 ↗ the final vote or if they would like to

3:32:38 ↗ have more discussion and have another

3:32:40 ↗ vote we don't know what the vote will be

3:32:44 ↗ on the nominees for this next round

3:32:46 ↗ again everyone can vote how they want so

3:32:48 ↗ I think it would be healthy to decide if

3:32:51 ↗ you uh were or the council however you

3:32:55 ↗ want to determine whether you're going

3:32:57 ↗ to participate in the vote and then just

3:32:59 ↗ go through the rounds if one of the

3:33:01 ↗ nominees results in a tie vote then

3:33:03 ↗ you'd have that moment to weigh in

3:33:06 ↗ council

3:33:07 ↗ president so I think the question before

3:33:09 ↗ the council is really are we at a point

3:33:12 ↗ where we would like the mayor to break

3:33:15 ↗ the tie

3:33:16 ↗ are we at a point where we want to press

3:33:20 ↗ pause schedule another meeting ask the

3:33:24 ↗ um Community to provide feedback or are

3:33:29 ↗ we at a point where we want to go up and

3:33:33 ↗ have another executive session to

3:33:35 ↗ discuss amongst ourselves

3:33:38 ↗ about our preferences between candidates

3:33:42 ↗ and lastly do you want to do it on the

3:33:44 ↗ Das you could just continue your

3:33:46 ↗ conversation on the Das and go for

3:33:48 ↗ another vote so continue our

3:33:50 ↗ conversation comfort with the mayor

3:33:52 ↗ breaking the tie pause and reconvene

3:33:56 ↗ another meeting or go up to another

3:33:59 ↗ executive session keeping in mind we

3:34:01 ↗ have 90 days to make this decision

3:34:03 ↗ before it goes to King County

3:34:06 ↗ Council qu uh comments Council my

3:34:09 ↗ marks yeah I guess at this at this point

3:34:14 ↗ um I think

3:34:16 ↗ probably um the fairest method in the

3:34:19 ↗ process would be to have the mayor break

3:34:21 ↗ the tie um I think we every everybody's

3:34:25 ↗ made lots of arguments um I think that

3:34:28 ↗ just wearing one side or the other down

3:34:31 ↗ by another half dozen uh votes isn't the

3:34:34 ↗ right way out of this I think the right

3:34:36 ↗ way would be to add the another voice to

3:34:39 ↗ the conversation sorry

3:34:43 ↗ Mary comments

3:34:47 ↗ council member Ray um as is often the

3:34:51 ↗ case I agree with council member Marts

3:34:53 ↗ um the one thing I don't want to do and

3:34:56 ↗ maybe I'll start with that is I don't I

3:34:57 ↗ want to I want to get this resolved

3:34:59 ↗ tonight I don't want to kick the can

3:35:01 ↗ down the road I was talking to council

3:35:02 ↗ member D Michelle uh earlier this week

3:35:04 ↗ and it's like unless there was some very

3:35:06 ↗ specific question that needed to be

3:35:07 ↗ answered I really thought we had an

3:35:09 ↗ obligation to ourselves and to all of

3:35:12 ↗ you to make a decision tonight and so I

3:35:14 ↗ really I mean I'll go through 10 rounds

3:35:17 ↗ of voting I've done it before but um but

3:35:20 ↗ you know I think we need to whatever the

3:35:21 ↗ case is we need to bring closure tonight

3:35:24 ↗ to the the the process because we owe

3:35:26 ↗ that to

3:35:28 ↗ you

3:35:34 ↗ comments that's remember Hall um well

3:35:37 ↗ maybe there's maybe there's

3:35:38 ↗ still um topics worth discussing here on

3:35:41 ↗ the dice I I just wanted to ask and if

3:35:43 ↗ it's appropriate was there any change I

3:35:46 ↗ wasn't tracking the voting was there any

3:35:48 ↗ change in voting that happened between

3:35:50 ↗ the kind of the first round of voting

3:35:52 ↗ and the second round of voting and if

3:35:54 ↗ anyone felt so inclined or felt it was

3:35:56 ↗ appropriate for me to ask would they be

3:35:57 ↗ willing to share kind of what made them

3:35:59 ↗ kind of change their vote maybe that

3:36:01 ↗ could benefit the rest of us too as

3:36:03 ↗ we're considering should we change our

3:36:05 ↗ three part there was no change there was

3:36:07 ↗ no oh okay I see

3:36:12 ↗ yeah

3:36:14 ↗ thoughts on whether or not the mayor

3:36:17 ↗ should step in you have four choices

3:36:19 ↗ yeah I don't I don't necessarily see

3:36:21 ↗ what we would get out of going into

3:36:23 ↗ executive session again um so I

3:36:25 ↗ definitely rule that out um if there's

3:36:27 ↗ anything I mean speaking now forever

3:36:29 ↗ hold your peace I guess Council if

3:36:30 ↗ there's any other kind of comments that

3:36:31 ↗ you want to make um but other than that

3:36:34 ↗ I agree with the two previous comments

3:36:36 ↗ of what have been said I think perhaps

3:36:38 ↗ maybe now is the time for you to step in

3:36:40 ↗ I'm also kind of curious what you think

3:36:41 ↗ May paully because in in the past you

3:36:45 ↗ like kind of ad hoc policy has been not

3:36:47 ↗ to to do that but I mean do you want to

3:36:50 ↗ share sure reflect on that at all or

3:36:53 ↗ like how how comfortable do you feel

3:36:54 ↗ stepping in so I'm very comfortable I

3:36:58 ↗ think for the benefit of those sitting

3:36:59 ↗ at this table I do not participate in

3:37:01 ↗ their deliberations upstairs so the best

3:37:05 ↗ practice is always for those that are

3:37:06 ↗ sitting in the six Council chairs to

3:37:09 ↗ convince each other of why one of you

3:37:12 ↗ should be picked over three of you when

3:37:14 ↗ you all have such excellent quality

3:37:15 ↗ ifications so I have been listening I

3:37:19 ↗ have been reading the material I have

3:37:21 ↗ had coffee with most of the candidates

3:37:24 ↗ that you have spoken to I'm not

3:37:26 ↗ uncomfortable making the selection I

3:37:29 ↗ think you have done your due diligence I

3:37:32 ↗ think you have poked prodded pushed and

3:37:35 ↗ pulled each other um as much as I've

3:37:37 ↗ ever seen for a council vote so I do not

3:37:40 ↗ have an issue breaking the

3:37:42 ↗ time comments

3:37:49 ↗ council president yeah um I don't see

3:37:53 ↗ necessarily any benefit of going up to

3:37:55 ↗ Executive session I think we've all said

3:37:57 ↗ our piece and the vote hasn't

3:38:00 ↗ changed

3:38:02 ↗ um I I don't have a problem with

3:38:06 ↗ delaying necessarily but I don't know

3:38:09 ↗ that we would have additional

3:38:13 ↗ information um

3:38:15 ↗ so I think I'm okay with you breaking

3:38:18 ↗ the

3:38:18 ↗ tie any other

3:38:21 ↗ comments C clar I'm just going to verify

3:38:24 ↗ that um is it just am I able to speak um

3:38:29 ↗ to the candidates and their

3:38:30 ↗ qualifications and then say my piece is

3:38:33 ↗ that how we should proceed that seems

3:38:35 ↗ reasonable to me

3:38:38 ↗ okay so I hate you guys this has never

3:38:40 ↗ happened as far as I've ever known in

3:38:43 ↗ any of these votes before um is a first

3:38:46 ↗ and it is awkward um I sit in a

3:38:48 ↗ different chair than the elected council

3:38:50 ↗ do I will not be participating in

3:38:52 ↗ dialogues with you discussing policy or

3:38:56 ↗ um working with you on the budget I'm on

3:38:58 ↗ the operation side and I hand things

3:39:00 ↗ over to you but I have to agree with

3:39:03 ↗ 100% of the comments that they heard

3:39:05 ↗ this is probably that I've probably sat

3:39:07 ↗ through six of these this is the hardest

3:39:09 ↗ that I've ever seen only because you are

3:39:11 ↗ all coming and speaking to the Council

3:39:13 ↗ on many many topics that are top of mind

3:39:15 ↗ for them from affordable housing and

3:39:17 ↗ Social Services to connections to the

3:39:19 ↗ business Community to continuing our

3:39:21 ↗ work as being a leader and Steward in

3:39:23 ↗ the environmental space um I am going to

3:39:28 ↗ select Kelly Jang for the vacancy

3:39:30 ↗ because I do believe at this point in

3:39:32 ↗ time in the city of isqua and with the

3:39:35 ↗ current um lay of the federal landscape

3:39:38 ↗ that in order to be an environmental

3:39:40 ↗ champion and environmental Steward at

3:39:42 ↗ this time I would like to bring some um

3:39:44 ↗ strength and bandwidth to that piece of

3:39:47 ↗ our Council conversation and I

3:39:48 ↗ appreciate her experience in that area

3:39:52 ↗ and I agree with council member Hall

3:39:55 ↗ that she will bring a very deliberative

3:39:58 ↗ policymaking practice um as a deep

3:40:00 ↗ thinker and as a strategist but it's the

3:40:03 ↗ connection to the environmental piece

3:40:05 ↗ that really swings me over I also would

3:40:08 ↗ say that during this upcoming election

3:40:11 ↗ SE session we are going to have at least

3:40:13 ↗ one Council vacancy and and that is a

3:40:16 ↗ more difficult path to get on councel

3:40:19 ↗ but we still do need to have a business

3:40:21 ↗ connection and we still do need to have

3:40:24 ↗ housing Advocates so I'm hoping that um

3:40:27 ↗ while there is probably huge

3:40:28 ↗ disappointment tonight for those that

3:40:29 ↗ made it this far and didn't make it that

3:40:31 ↗ you do consider putting your hat in the

3:40:34 ↗ ring for this Council vacancy we know of

3:40:37 ↗ at least one that's going to be coming

3:40:39 ↗ um strange things happen during

3:40:42 ↗ elections and sometimes for unforeseen

3:40:43 ↗ reasons we also have a vacancy that we

3:40:46 ↗ didn't know was coming so please

3:40:47 ↗ consider putting your hat in the ring

3:40:49 ↗ and um congratulations

3:40:52 ↗ Kelly

3:40:53 ↗ well we should we should take the vote

3:40:56 ↗ Yes we need to actually vote so too soon

3:41:00 ↗ um so in this round then as I go down

3:41:03 ↗ through the Slate I will have a

3:41:04 ↗ vote Yes after the the council members

3:41:09 ↗ let them vote yes and no and then if the

3:41:12 ↗ outcome is a tie um you can okay all

3:41:15 ↗ those in favor of appointing Kelly Jen

3:41:18 ↗ to city council position number six

3:41:20 ↗ signify by saying I and raising your

3:41:22 ↗ hand I pause for a moment okay so seeing

3:41:29 ↗ all in

3:41:32 ↗ favor call for the not votes if you

3:41:34 ↗ don't

3:41:36 ↗ mind all those

3:41:39 ↗ oppose I'll proceed through the slate no

3:41:42 ↗ done done okay I didn't didn't break the

3:41:45 ↗ tie I weighed in but I didn't break the

3:41:47 ↗ tie so um Council this was really hard I

3:41:52 ↗ I feel very honored to be able to sit up

3:41:53 ↗ with up there in the executive session

3:41:56 ↗ with you and listen to how thoughtful

3:41:57 ↗ you are and how much time you put in

3:42:00 ↗ explaining what you heard and how that

3:42:02 ↗ mattered to you um in terms of how to

3:42:05 ↗ fill out this seveners body so thank you

3:42:07 ↗ for your hard work it's very much

3:42:10 ↗ appreciated um so that's a a unanimous

3:42:14 ↗ vote six and o Kelly Jen um is appointed

3:42:18 ↗ to the position congratulations now I

3:42:21 ↗ can say it and thanks to

3:42:24 ↗ all sorry can clap yes you can clap now

3:42:29 ↗ congratulations to our new

3:42:31 ↗ appointy and thank you to all applied

3:42:34 ↗ for this vacancy we are fortunate as you

3:42:36 ↗ have heard over and over and over again

3:42:38 ↗ tonight to have so many capable

3:42:40 ↗ residents living within our community

3:42:42 ↗ who are willing to step up and give of

3:42:44 ↗ their time to serve here and I hope you

3:42:46 ↗ will consider staying involved with us

3:42:49 ↗ whether it's your board and commission

3:42:50 ↗ work or whether you're interested in

3:42:51 ↗ running for the vacant seat that we know

3:42:53 ↗ we will at least have one so now Kelly

3:42:56 ↗ I'm going to be giving the oath of

3:42:57 ↗ office if you want to come up you are

3:42:59 ↗ actually being sworn in today

3:43:03 ↗ [Music]

3:43:36 ↗ and thank you for doing the videos and

3:43:38 ↗ the pictures that's great so you're

3:43:40 ↗ going to look at me and you're going to

3:43:41 ↗ raise your right hand and you're going

3:43:43 ↗ to repeat after me I state your name I

3:43:46 ↗ Kelly Janes having been duly elected

3:43:49 ↗ having been duly elected to the city of

3:43:51 ↗ isqua council position number six to the

3:43:54 ↗ city of isapa council position number

3:43:56 ↗ six do solemnly swear do solemnly swear

3:43:58 ↗ that I will faithfully and impartially

3:44:00 ↗ that I will faithfully and impartially

3:44:02 ↗ discharge the duties of this office

3:44:04 ↗ discharge the duties of this office as

3:44:06 ↗ prescribed by law as prescribed by law

3:44:09 ↗ and to the best of my ability and to the

3:44:11 ↗ best of my ability that I will support

3:44:13 ↗ and maintain that I will support and M

3:44:15 ↗ the constitution of the state of

3:44:17 ↗ Washington the constitution of the state

3:44:19 ↗ of Washington and of the United States

3:44:20 ↗ of America and of the United States of

3:44:22 ↗ America

3:44:30 ↗ congratulations yes so we need a

3:44:33 ↗ pen no

3:44:37 ↗ worries thank you very much

3:44:46 ↗ I almost signed for you there we

3:44:54 ↗ go kind of shaking this is a big deal

3:44:58 ↗ definely shaking do you need a copy of

3:45:00 ↗ the city

3:45:01 ↗ clerk

3:45:11 ↗ okay so come and take your seat we're

3:45:13 ↗ going to close out the meeting

3:45:19 ↗ yeah I'm not on the end

3:45:23 ↗ anymore for a few months

3:45:27 ↗ yes again to all the community members

3:45:30 ↗ to the deliberations of the council to

3:45:32 ↗ this fabulous candidate pool that we had

3:45:35 ↗ thank you all for coming and sharing and

3:45:38 ↗ thank you very much Tina and Chris for

3:45:40 ↗ your second round participation very

3:45:42 ↗ much appreciated there being no further

3:45:45 ↗ business this meeting is adjourned at

3:45:47 ↗ 10:18 my G

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Council / Members (6)

Barbara de Michele

Zach Hall

Russell Joe

Tola Marts

Chris Reh

and Council President Lindsey Walsh

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Wally Bobkiewicz, City Administrator

Andrea Snyder, Deputy City Administrator

Rachel Bender Turpin, City Attorney

Tisha Gieser, City Clerk

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b) AB 8952 - City Council Position No. 6 Vacancy The following applicants were moved forward in the appointment process from the Feb. 3 City Council meeting:
The City Council moved into Executive Session at 7:17 PM.
Executive Session - Qualifications of Appointment per RCW 42.30.110(1)(h) At 8:48 PM, Council moved into Executive Session for the purpose of discussing qualifications of appointment per RCW 42.30.110(1)(h).