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Tuesday, December 12, 2023

8:00 AM · 1h 44m
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AGENDA
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Welcome, Introductions & Thank You Mayor Pauly Council President Walsh
10 min · packet pp.3–9
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2023-24 State Legislative Agenda Amended for the 2024 Legislative Session
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Presentation of Issaquah's 2024 Legislative Priorities & Policy Stances Crossing State Route 18 Mountain Zoo
60 min
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Closing Comments Mayor Pauly
20 min
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Adjournment Legislative Breakfast with Legislators from the 5th and 41st Districts b... Amended for the 2024 Legislative Session Housing Availability and Affordability State Partnership for Transportation following areas: WSDOT. anticipates the state’s partnership in 2025 for preliminary engineering. provides the most expeditious completion. Capital Budget Request: Cougar Mountain Zoo for students, families and the broader public. Legislative Breakfast with Legislators from the 5th and 41st Districts b... Amended for the 2024 Legislative Session Affordable Housing, Health, Human Services and Homelessness resources for the City. housing. impact on both landlords and tenants. of more than 3%. structural shortage of behavioral health professionals. the state to meet the behavioral health impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic. Budget and Fiscal Matters tied to inflation plus population growth. citizens depend upon. continue payments until at least 2026. local taxing authority. Legislative Breakfast with Legislators from the 5th and 41st Districts b... more progressive revenue source. remains revenue-neutral. taxation of marijuana to help properly fund public safety. COVID-19 Recovery eviction moratorium. and stands ready to assist if needed. Criminal Justice/Public Safety/Fire/Courts newly hired officers. information requests. challenges are addressed. therapeutic courts, and a diversion tracking database. methods and better forest health management practices. Economic Development/Infrastructure to other infrastructure programs or other non‐ infrastructure accounts. Routes to Schools, Bicycle-Pedestrian grants, etc. Works Rosters” to do small-scale infrastructure and public works jobs in-house. Legislative Breakfast with Legislators from the 5th and 41st Districts b... downtown revitalization organizations. Environment/Natural Resources buildings. costs for rate payers. equitable implementation. culverts. funding of strategic actions including habitat conservation and funding. electrification of buildings and transportation systems. ground implementation of local climate action plans. Land-Use/Growth Management Act (GMA)/Housing amendments to the GMA that weaken or undermine the Act. transportation funding. those goals by a certain date. challenges of individual cities. reduction in Comprehensive Planning. Legislative Breakfast with Legislators from the 5th and 41st Districts b... Local Government in General/Miscellaneous counties or make service delivery more efficient. governments. funded” mandates on local governments. as software and professional services. burdensome public records requests. Personnel, Pension, and other Human Resource Issues employee benefit programs without accompanying funds. definitions relating to Workers’ Compensation claims. pension rates. Transportation/Transit especially funding for State Route 18 improvements. on the Issaquah community. incentives and investments for electrification of public and private fleets. operations, and new construction of the local transportation system. Water/Water Resources/Water Quality water quality, before moving to sell reclaimed water on the open market. Legislative Breakfast with Legislators from the 5th and 41st Districts b... chemicals from the Issaquah Valley Aquifer
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0:01 oh God it is isn't
0:06 it um good evening and welcome um I'm
0:09 Chris Ray and with me this evening are
0:12 Deputy council president Zach Hall and
0:15 council member Dar Barbara D Michelle
0:17 and I'm going to call to order
0:19 the December 12th 2023 city council
0:23 mobility and infrastructure committee
0:26 meeting um there will be multiple public
0:29 comment opport unities at tonight's
0:30 meeting there will be a general public
0:32 comment opportunity at the beginning of
0:34 the meeting or you can May comment after
0:37 the presentation in Council questions
0:39 and answer period on tonight's agenda
0:42 members of the public May address the
0:43 council at this time in person or
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1:10 if you are in the room there's no one in
1:13 the room so I won't worry about that for
1:14 right now I'm I'm going to wait to see
1:16 if anybody um who is joining virtually
1:19 has uh indicated a desire to
1:24 speak clerk anybody with us tonight
1:27 chair Ray we have no virtual attendees
1:29 at this time I'm going to um skip over
1:32 the guidelines if someone joins us later
1:35 and has wants to make comment we can do
1:37 that then and I can cover the guidelines
1:40 at that
1:41 time all right moving on we have a a
1:45 full agenda today we have
1:50 uh uh four things so we've got uh agenda
1:54 item id 1293 which is the light rail
1:57 plan and visioning public public plan
2:01 envisioning public participation
2:03 plan we also have three um items related
2:06 to the comprehensive plan and they are
2:09 um ID 1490 ID 1565 and
2:13 ID 1564 and ID
2:18 1565 and we'll be doing all those
2:21 together so with that let's go to the
2:24 agenda and the first item on the agenda
2:27 is uh approval of the minutes
2:30 I understand maybe we've made some uh
2:32 modifications to the agenda or the
2:34 minutes yes yes chair some some AA were
2:37 corrected okay um given the corrected
2:40 minutes any objection to approving the
2:42 minutes right the minutes are
2:46 approved okay well we're going to get
2:48 into the agenda then and the first thing
2:51 on our list today
2:54 is uh ID 1293 the light rail plan
2:58 envisioning public par participation
3:00 plan and Thomas of Valdes
3:05 valre um is presenting senior
3:08 Transportation planner and Thomas I
3:09 guess we have you all night tonight
3:11 don't we you really do okay all right
3:14 well um uh take it
3:17 away great thanks uh thanks chair Ray um
3:20 I'm actually gonna have Lacy Bell who's
3:23 an associate sorry a principal at Nelson
3:26 nigar Associates um join me for this
3:28 first presentation
3:30 um but I will sort of lead off the
3:32 discussion
3:35 here one second
3:48 screen great uh so again uh my name is
3:50 Thomas fdes I'm the senior
3:52 Transportation planner at isqua and I'm
3:55 joined by Lacy Bell at Nelson niggard
3:58 Associates and the purpose of this
4:00 discussion is to get your feedback on
4:03 two documents uh the first document is
4:05 the draft Link light rail plan and the
4:08 second one is the public participation
4:10 strategy for light rail visioning
4:15 development We'll be asking for your
4:17 feedback towards the end of this
4:19 presentation but um feedback is twofold
4:22 so the first part We'll be asking for
4:24 feedback on the light rail plan um
4:27 questions we have for you are does plan
4:29 adequately provide the city with a
4:32 Playbook to guide planning efforts and
4:35 are there any additional topics that the
4:37 plan should
4:38 consider I will then dive into the
4:41 public participation plan where we're
4:42 going to ask you for two questions does
4:45 the proposed approach meet its public
4:47 participation goals and are there any
4:50 additional Community interests or
4:52 audiences that are missing from our
4:54 potential audiences and stakeholders
4:58 list um so just to provide a little bit
5:00 of feedback um we've been planning for
5:03 growth in the city for decades in 2012
5:06 the city had adopted the central isqua
5:09 plan and this is really uh to guide the
5:11 long-term vision of central isqua um
5:14 just to make sure that it's a more
5:16 livable sustainable and balanced uh
5:18 mixed use
5:20 area in 2015 the city and pound Regional
5:24 Council uh designated a portion of the
5:27 central isqua area um this is the uh
5:31 Urban core area shown here in green so
5:35 this was designated as a regional growth
5:38 Center uh whereby um 68% of the city's
5:41 household growth and 64% of employment
5:44 growth uh between now and 2050 is
5:47 expected to be um in this
5:52 area and just provide a little bit more
5:54 background in 2016 voters approved st3
5:57 so Sound Transit 3 this was a ballot
5:59 measure initiative aimed at funding and
6:02 developing the expansion of mass transit
6:04 in the region um this includes the South
6:07 Kirkland isqua or like to we call uh we
6:10 like to call it ski ski link uh so this
6:14 is the ski link extension project um
6:17 this project is currently being managed
6:18 to a 2041 completion year uh it also
6:22 includes one light rail station in
6:24 central
6:26 isqua uh so in short um Central squad's
6:30 plannned growth and focus on highdensity
6:32 mixed use and P pedestrian friendly
6:35 development uh is going to be uh
6:38 generating the transit potential uh the
6:41 transit Rider potential uh that will
6:43 warrant sound transits investment in
6:46 their Central esqua
6:49 Station so with that I'm going to kick
6:51 it over to Lacy from Nelson nard
6:52 Associates and she will walk you through
6:55 uh the plan that Nelson niggard has
6:58 developed
7:02 thanks Thomas so as Thomas mentioned I'm
7:04 Lacy Bell with Nelson nyard previously
7:06 prior to being a consultant I did work
7:09 at Transit agencies on capital projects
7:12 so have some experience with this
7:15 um uh I'm going to go back to the map
7:18 for just a second and one thing I want
7:19 to point out well a couple of things
7:22 first I want to commend issaqua for
7:24 thinking about this as early as you are
7:26 that's great that you're thinking about
7:28 this now and also you have the benefit
7:31 of learning from the rest of the region
7:35 and how they've worked with Sound
7:36 Transit so really great that you're able
7:38 to start early and take lessons learned
7:42 but one thing I do want to point out
7:44 right is the ski link
7:48 there's very wide station spacing and so
7:51 looking to understand how you can
7:53 generate as much ridership potential
7:55 from each of those stations is going to
7:58 be important and really thinking through
8:00 since there's just the one station
8:02 planned for Central
8:04 isqua visioning early what you want that
8:07 station to be to really generate the
8:10 ridership and so in the plan we outline
8:13 kind of station prerequisites for
8:16 success with that framework in mind that
8:18 this is the central this is the station
8:20 from isqua and you want to generate as
8:23 much ridership as you can from there so
8:25 thinking through how you're going to do
8:28 that with land use with connecting
8:30 Transit with bike ped connections right
8:33 and so those are some of the things that
8:35 we've outlined in the plan and then we
8:37 go into the more tangible like
8:41 developing a timeline for when you want
8:43 to do each of the items uh aligned with
8:47 strategic considerations conceptual
8:49 locations and thinking providing a
8:52 proactive plan for how you'll prepare
8:54 for working with Sound
8:57 Transit so again this just goes goes
8:59 back to where I started right that
9:01 really how can you get the most
9:04 ridership potential out of that one
9:07 station and we call these the 60s of
9:10 Transit supportive land uses uh in
9:13 planning sure some of you have heard of
9:15 the 60s before but really thinking
9:18 through first they're kind of an order
9:21 of most permanent to least permanent and
9:23 the most important is really what
9:25 destinations are you serving so thinking
9:28 about what the destinations are where do
9:30 you have large employment where do you
9:31 have large population centers in Central
9:34 isqua and starting there are there other
9:36 destinations you want to serve with
9:38 Transit we included in the plan that
9:41 isqua is known as somewhere to come and
9:43 do outdoor recreation and do you want to
9:45 tie to those outdoor it doesn't always
9:49 generate a ton of ridership right more
9:52 like employment and housing our bigger
9:54 generators but thinking through what
9:56 destinations you're trying to serve
9:58 Within a walking distance of the station
10:01 developing the public infrastructure at
10:04 a human scale so people can feel like
10:06 they can access the Station by walking
10:09 or rolling and then making sure that you
10:12 have enough mix of land uses so people
10:15 it's thought of as a destination in and
10:17 of itself people ideally aren't just
10:19 coming to that Central issaqua Station
10:21 to go to Belleview or onto Seattle but
10:24 really thinking of how can you create
10:26 that really a dense Hub where people
10:28 want to come in then connect to the
10:31 region and so a big question related to
10:35 that right is how much do you focus on
10:37 serving isqua versus the region and so
10:40 those are some of the considerations
10:43 that we've outlined in the plan that
10:45 you'll get to work through and that's
10:47 one of the earliest action items and so
10:49 this timeline really is breaking things
10:51 out by The Sound Transit project process
10:55 and we've tried to outline what the most
10:57 important priorities are for isquad
11:00 during each of these time frames and
11:03 so there's the potential that this
11:05 timeline could shift right so it's
11:07 saying that sound transit's now focused
11:11 on a 2041 opening some conversations
11:14 they've had with their realignment if
11:16 that's achievable and so even if this
11:18 shifts we've tried to outline kind of
11:20 the key time frames as opposed to the
11:23 years we did put years to it because
11:25 that's kind of what they're tracking to
11:27 we did meet with Sound Transit staff and
11:29 these are the dates they provided so
11:32 some of the key action items and really
11:34 getting a vision for what the city wants
11:36 that station area to be is really the
11:38 most critical firstep in that 2040 2024
11:42 to 2026 time Horizon before Sound
11:46 Transit kicks off their official
11:48 planning process and then that early
11:51 planning stage is one of the most
11:54 important times for isqua staff to be
11:57 involved with the sound transit process
11:58 proc because that's when they set a lot
12:00 of the key decisions and then through
12:03 the environmental and preliminary design
12:05 process it's still important to be
12:07 engaged but really if you're just making
12:11 decisions about what you want the
12:12 station area to look like at that point
12:14 or where you want the station cited it's
12:16 a little bit too late because those
12:18 decisions are made in the earlier
12:20 planning process so that's a key key
12:22 piece and then always the um isqua will
12:26 have a role in final design as a Rover
12:29 of the plans right so signing off going
12:31 through the official isqua development
12:34 process and making sure that you're
12:35 signing permits and giving uh helping
12:38 Sound Transit move through that process
12:40 but really thinking through the early
12:42 planning stuff is where the city's
12:44 Vision should be focused
12:48 on and during that early planning
12:51 process the key considerations we've
12:53 outlined are again thinking through what
12:57 what is the character that you want for
12:58 that Central isqua Station given that it
13:00 is planned to be the end of the line it
13:03 could be a great location for people
13:06 from further east to come and get on the
13:09 system and connect or it could be
13:12 somewhere where you know that may happen
13:14 but you could focus more on serving
13:17 locals right at the station area um
13:20 there are a number of policy tools that
13:22 isqua can think through to support those
13:27 that Vision that you have and we did
13:30 some peer interviews talked to Federal
13:32 Way and Belleview to learn what they did
13:35 and they set some planning guidelines
13:39 about defining station areas that are
13:42 supported that support uh transit
13:45 station and so I think thinking through
13:48 if that's something the city wants to do
13:49 or not and then always thinking through
13:52 how you'll integrate with the Metro uh
13:55 Network including microtransit which I'm
13:57 sure will continue to
14:00 grow uh the first step is some hey Lacy
14:04 a quick
14:05 question yeah this was a question I was
14:07 thinking about asking later but maybe
14:08 it's more appropriate now so when we say
14:12 uh we're planning for end of the
14:14 line in
14:17 2041 um should we as a city also be
14:21 thinking and i' say this a little tongue
14:23 and cheek but should we be thinking of
14:25 2090 when maybe they're going to want to
14:29 extend it to North Bend or uh and should
14:32 that play any role in our consideration
14:34 and I'm thinking particularly that we
14:37 wouldn't want to place it in a place
14:40 that would make it really difficult to
14:43 extend it further out east whenever that
14:47 is uh happening but we know that growth
14:50 is going Eastward right so anyway a
14:53 little bit of a tongue-in-cheek question
14:55 but um is there any part of that really
14:59 really long range that we should be
15:00 taking into consideration when we're
15:02 doing our planning I think that's a
15:05 great question and one of the first
15:07 things we've outlined is actually some
15:10 well the first step is to Think Through
15:12 where those conceptual station locations
15:14 are right and I
15:17 think there are different locations that
15:19 you can think through and some maybe a
15:23 longer deviation from I90 that would
15:26 require additional track to get to and
15:29 be a little bit more complicated bit be
15:31 closer to more development but to your
15:34 point that could mean that it's more
15:36 difficult to extend to the F into the
15:38 future whether that's out to bend or
15:40 whether that is just an extension
15:43 potentially to the highlands in the
15:44 future right and so I think that is
15:47 definitely a consideration that you all
15:49 should think through when you present
15:51 these different conceptual locations to
15:53 the public as well and so some of the
15:56 station locations are of course the
15:59 representative station and that's where
16:01 Sound Transit will start their process
16:03 what was defined in that representative
16:05 project that was in the voter package
16:08 and that includes a station very very
16:10 close to
16:11 I90 or if the city wants to think about
16:15 other station locations within Central
16:18 isqua what do you do with that existing
16:20 isqua Transit Center where there's
16:22 already a parking structure the
16:25 representative project includes
16:27 additional parking how much parking does
16:29 the city think is important to serve
16:32 high-capacity Transit right those are
16:33 the conversations you can think through
16:35 while you evaluate these different
16:37 locations or are there high density
16:40 housing or employment locations that
16:42 would be a better location for the
16:46 station and so what the plan outlines is
16:50 different steps to think through looking
16:53 at station sighting and Alignment
16:55 planning end of line again whether it's
16:58 or if you want to think of it as a
17:00 interim end of line or end of line for a
17:04 certain period but you know that the
17:05 city would like to extend service in the
17:08 future really thinking through
17:10 Partnerships not just Partnerships with
17:13 down transit but also Partnerships with
17:16 developers and businesses and it's one
17:20 of the things that I always say in
17:23 this being on the agency side for a long
17:26 time is that the time Horizon for these
17:29 projects right the fact that we're
17:31 talking about this with a
17:32 20401 delivery date is different than
17:36 the time Horizon that
17:38 developers use right and so trying
17:41 to get meaningful engagement from
17:44 developers can be a challenge but it can
17:46 be very valuable as you're thinking
17:48 about what the future potential is and
17:51 then the other piece that a lot of
17:53 municipalities think through with a
17:56 investment coming from a Regional entity
17:59 is are there other local projects that
18:01 could benefit by being done at the same
18:04 time sometimes town transit will refer
18:06 to those as betterments but
18:08 opportunities to leverage and I know
18:10 that you all are talking about the I90
18:13 Crossing and how that would be future
18:16 compatible for a future station or are
18:19 there elements of that project that
18:21 could be combined with the bigger
18:23 Capital project and then again I said
18:26 like I've mentioned an important
18:27 consider a is really those bus service
18:30 connections to the station and is it
18:33 continuing to be some of these Regional
18:35 buses or is it more local service is it
18:38 a shift to microtransit and just I know
18:40 Thomas and his team will continue to
18:42 engage with Metro and see how uh isqua
18:46 how it continues to be served during
18:48 that time but things like electric bus
18:51 charging are those things that will need
18:53 to be incorporated into the station and
18:55 then again really important thinking
18:57 through land land use and policies that
19:00 isqua can set to encourage the type of
19:02 land use and development that you'd like
19:04 around the
19:06 station very high level overview and
19:09 again what the plan tries to outline is
19:13 what are key Milestones during each of
19:15 each of those sound transit planning
19:17 phases and you've got some work to do to
19:20 come up with a vision and you've got
19:22 time before Sound Transit starts the
19:24 process is kind of the high level where
19:26 I'd leave it and Thomas is going to talk
19:28 about the public process you want to do
19:31 uh questions kind of at this section you
19:34 wait till the end of the whole thing
19:35 because we're kind of changing gears
19:36 here it feels
19:41 like okay so
19:45 um I know we're going to comment later
19:47 this is you did a fantastic job on this
19:50 plan um but I do have a question uh are
19:53 there political strategies that we
19:55 should be considering as well and I'm
19:57 thinking about the fact that we had a
19:59 mayor who sat on Sound Transit board for
20:03 many
20:04 years but also um uh bringing our state
20:09 legislators on board and you know all of
20:12 those uh uh just placing our people in
20:15 the right places uh and also having the
20:18 right people supporting and uh
20:20 particularly when it comes to the timing
20:22 because we don't want sound transit to
20:25 keep pushing us back and back and back
20:27 so I'm just wondering is uh should there
20:31 be a parallel plan going in terms of uh
20:35 what's the political strategy that we're
20:37 also going to pursue to make sure that
20:39 this stays on uh on the right timeline
20:42 and maybe that is a question for our
20:44 Deputy City administrator I was gonna
20:47 say that's an
20:49 question uh sure hi I'm Andrea Snider
20:52 Deputy City administrator and uh short
20:55 answer yes uh we are considering what is
20:58 the political strategy we want to pursue
21:00 and given the timeline that was just
21:03 presented what are those important um
21:05 points in time that we need to um um
21:11 bear influence on the process and so um
21:14 that is something that we are continuing
21:16 to discuss we do anticipate um pursuing
21:20 a number of strategies in the future and
21:22 we can talk about that at a at a
21:24 different meeting if you
21:26 like thank you that was and that was the
21:28 only question I
21:30 had May council president uh thank you
21:34 very much I got two um questions based
21:37 on your experience in terms of Lessons
21:39 Learned um elsewhere so earlier in the
21:42 presentation you talked kind of about
21:43 how there are two different approaches
21:46 for station sighting one serving more of
21:49 the regional Focus people who are going
21:50 to come in and use that to connect to um
21:53 wherever they're going and employment
21:54 hubs and then also serving the other
21:57 option being more of a focus on serving
21:59 your local community dense housing DSE
22:01 services that kind of stuff
22:04 um when localities have chose have
22:08 chosen to serve their local community
22:10 over those who were kind of coming in
22:12 are there any unintended consequences
22:14 that that that we should be mindful of
22:17 are there any Lessons Learned there for
22:19 example when you do that maybe you don't
22:22 um account for maybe what the
22:24 appropriate parking or whatever might be
22:26 or or can Ed bus service might be and so
22:30 then your system get overloaded any
22:33 comments you have on that would be great
22:35 yeah that's exactly right
22:36 and given isqua's location on the map I
22:41 think there's no way that your station
22:43 will not function with a combination of
22:46 both and so one of the right I
22:51 think thinking about the primary user in
22:54 the initial design right you could say
22:56 we want to make this super easy for
22:59 people coming from I90 that it's direct
23:02 into the parking garage ramp from I90
23:05 right I think the Lynwood Transit Center
23:09 had a ramp straight in and it's going
23:11 straight to the garage right or and then
23:14 on the other side of their station
23:15 they've got they've really focused on
23:18 development so I think the Lynnwood
23:20 Transit Center Redevelopment that's
23:22 coming with the new station there would
23:24 be a great place to look I think they've
23:26 done a good job balancing it and so I
23:29 think those are some of the things that
23:31 you'll need to think through but yeah if
23:33 you decide that you wanted the station
23:37 to be further away from I90 and so you
23:41 then how you would have strategies in
23:44 place so you don't still have a ton of
23:46 people driving from I90 and congesting
23:49 the local network uh so I think those
23:51 are things you can think through about
23:53 whether or not some of the stations down
23:55 the line would be a better place to
23:59 attract the Eastgate right if that would
24:03 be where you'd want people to drive to
24:05 and so you could have policies in place
24:07 that make it difficult to park at the
24:10 isqua center right and so just or
24:13 working to always advertise that that's
24:15 where you want to go if you're coming
24:17 from I90 because it's faster access even
24:19 though it's a little bit of a longer
24:20 drive but if i90s backed up people would
24:23 know they could come to isqua right so
24:25 don't want to go too far down the rabbit
24:27 hole but those are things to think about
24:29 but yeah I the lywood station is a great
24:31 example okay yeah thank you sounds like
24:34 maybe we need a council and staff field
24:36 trip The Lynwood Center just to take a
24:38 peek at it that sounds interesting my
24:40 second question um was just um I am I
24:44 really enjoyed the exploration of kind
24:45 of End of Line policy considerations in
24:48 the the plan uh is there anything else
24:52 in terms of issues for other end of Line
24:54 stations that we should be mindful of um
24:57 Public Safety Fair enforcement
25:00 coordination Human Services navigation
25:03 are there any other kinds of issues we
25:04 should be mindful of when we make this
25:06 decision or knowing that we're going to
25:08 be an End of Line temporary End of Line
25:10 um that we should start to think about
25:12 our long-term policies in these other
25:15 spaces to meet any emerging needs that
25:17 you've noticed at other end
25:20 line an operations background so I tend
25:23 to start with those issu um things that
25:27 have come up is capacity at the end of
25:30 the making sure if it's you've got
25:32 enough bus connection space so making
25:35 sure it's designed in a way that there
25:37 are because this is where buses will
25:39 want to come and connect to the Light
25:41 Rail and lay over and so sometimes that
25:42 footprint is bigger than you might think
25:45 um the other piece that is always
25:48 complicated but just the public realm
25:50 and thinking through public restrooms
25:52 and if this is the end of the line in a
25:54 big transfer station should there be a
25:57 restroom and that is always a
25:59 complicated issue because of the number
26:01 of safety concerns that come along with
26:03 that those are my two off the top of my
26:08 head um couple a couple of additional
26:11 things um I appreciate the description
26:14 of what Lynwood did I was going to
26:15 actually ask you kind of what other um
26:18 end of the liners have been doing um
26:22 just so we had some examples so are
26:23 there other ones or is is Lynwood
26:25 probably the most interesting one
26:27 they're interesting because they will
26:30 definitely be that interim right because
26:32 that's where the Linwood link extension
26:34 before Everett link extension so they
26:37 have thought through like how are they
26:38 going to shift when the extension
26:40 happens um Engle lake is a good just has
26:44 been serving as the end of the line for
26:46 a long time and there hasn't been a lot
26:48 of development beyond the parking
26:51 structure there but does serve as a hub
26:54 near the
26:56 airport
26:59 but Redmond is an interesting one on the
27:03 downtown Redmond extension they have
27:07 they had the luxury of two stations
27:10 being part of their plan and so one of
27:13 their stations is not the end their end
27:17 of the line is their downtown station
27:19 without parking and so they facilitated
27:22 the parking function at a different
27:24 station
27:26 forther
27:28 and then what about Economic Development
27:29 I think that um if you draw any large
27:33 group of people to any single spot
27:34 There's an opportunity what have you
27:36 seen cities do not to um kind of
27:41 Drive additional economic activity
27:44 around the the
27:46 centers so that's again where I would to
27:49 the extent feasible engage with the
27:52 local development community and see what
27:54 they'd be interested in and then Sound
27:56 Transit does have a joint development
27:59 policy and they their Surplus policy
28:02 goes to Equitable to housing and so just
28:05 staying engaged in the regional
28:08 conversations about Tod Transit oriented
28:11 development and where the trends are
28:12 going but yeah looking for how you can
28:16 engage with the developers early is
28:18 important there anything you'd add I
28:20 think you may have just answered the
28:21 last question which is around um what
28:23 are the communities doing to afford um
28:26 to promote transitor ored development
28:28 for sure but also then affordable
28:30 Transit oriented development um because
28:34 I can see having rundles of Transit
28:37 oriented development that are all market
28:39 rate and kind of exacerbate our current
28:44 problem any any thoughts on that
28:46 one that is exactly why Sound Transit
28:49 developed their policy that they would
28:51 at least commit to doing affordable
28:55 housing on the properties that they own
28:58 so a lot of times what happens when they
29:00 build the these big projects is they
29:02 have to acquire more property than they
29:04 need for staging or whatnot and so they
29:06 do end up with property adjacent to the
29:09 Light Rail and so they've committed to
29:11 ensuring that any development that goes
29:13 there is Affordable and so just making
29:15 sure that again you've got policies in
29:18 place that require a certain
29:20 amount and and the last one I think this
29:22 is more of a sound transit question than
29:25 isqua question but once we know where
29:28 we're going to decide it I think that uh
29:29 land becomes clearly more valuable and
29:32 how do we deal with the uh anticipated
29:35 increase in property values associated
29:38 with bringing in transit like that and
29:41 Federal Way is a good jurisdiction to
29:44 talk to they acquired some property
29:46 early that then was city property
29:50 that interesting I I I think this is a
29:53 fascinating discussion and I think the
29:55 planning Horizon makes it even that much
29:57 more fascinating um and how how we try
30:01 to project what and this is probably
30:02 more comments than questions but I'm the
30:04 chair
30:07 um um but anyway I think it'll be really
30:09 interesting to see how that all FS out
30:11 so all right any other questions on on
30:13 this yeah Deputy council president can I
30:15 ask you a really dumb question just on
30:17 my part um where are Sound Transit where
30:22 are light rail cars stored or like
30:26 where's the maintenance of those do we
30:28 accept any responsibility for like
30:30 tracks for where they'll like sit when
30:31 they're not being used or anything they
30:33 might be thrilled if you proposed
30:35 something like that um so the ski link
30:38 will is planned to be serviced out of
30:42 the East operations and maintenance
30:44 facility that recently opened to serve
30:46 Eastlink so it is in bellw off right
30:51 just south of 520 over by the the new
30:55 development blanket on the
30:59 name okay but somewhere in that did you
31:02 have a comment Deputy St sure it's my
31:07 understanding that that was uh part of
31:09 the discussion when the s23 package was
31:12 put together is given that isqua is
31:15 going to be an endof the Line Station um
31:17 do we have space for a rail yard of
31:21 sorts to store some cars Etc um there is
31:26 another location that would be the main
31:28 um yard that would service um but I
31:31 think we as we get closer we'll have to
31:33 really understand what some of the
31:35 operational needs are from Sound Transit
31:38 for an End Of The Line
31:40 Station yeah and then making sure we
31:43 have that pro and con discussion there
31:46 and and if that's something isqua would
31:49 even consider entertaining
31:52 what get out terms of maybe we get
31:56 pushed up 20
31:58 all right thank you good
32:02 question I think anything else on this
32:04 segment or we should we move
32:11 Thomas Thanks so much Lacy I really
32:14 appreciate it um moving on to the light
32:17 rail visioning
32:19 exercise um so again as Lacy had
32:22 mentioned um one of the first things
32:26 that was identified through the light
32:28 rail plan is to is the need to
32:30 co-develop a
32:32 vision uh for the station area um and to
32:36 do that with the community to make sure
32:37 that we're uh proposing um an option
32:41 that is uh Community preferred that's
32:43 aligned with Community Values and so
32:46 sort of the the flowchart of what we're
32:48 proposing here is to co-create a vision
32:51 and guiding principles for the station
32:52 area uh this would then be fed into uh
32:56 the city
32:57 looking at a preferred station location
33:00 um aligning it with Community Values and
33:02 the vision that's been
33:04 established uh and then proposing that
33:07 to sound transit as part of their
33:08 planning phase um understanding that
33:10 it's a sound transit project but we can
33:12 do what we can to try to influence where
33:15 the uh one station will
33:17 go uh we can also use some land use
33:20 policies and make other um policy
33:24 changes to make it uh a more Transit
33:27 supportive um area so just doing what we
33:31 can to sort of influence uh where the
33:33 potential station could go and again
33:36 aligning it to how the community would
33:37 like to see
33:40 it so the goals of the public
33:42 participation plan are to engage diverse
33:45 voices provide accurate information to
33:47 the community and to provide a variety
33:50 of public participation
33:54 opportunities and so some of the
33:56 potential audiences and stakeholders
33:58 that we've identified through this
33:59 process include the business and
34:01 development communities uh the general
34:03 community at large Human Services
34:07 interests Mobility advocacy and current
34:10 Transit writers as well as seniors and
34:14 youth the proposed approach is really to
34:18 kind of mirror what we've done with the
34:20 transit study uh so using the transit
34:22 study website as a landing page for
34:24 information um
34:27 moving from there we're proposing
34:30 developing a multilingual Community
34:32 survey so just like the transit study um
34:35 developing this
34:36 survey uh in English Spanish and
34:40 Mandarin and then the questions would be
34:42 aimed at developing that vision and
34:45 guiding
34:46 principles uh we also acknowledge that
34:48 some folks uh don't uh have the
34:51 opportunity to attend meetings so we
34:53 would like to go to them uh doing some
34:55 popup events uh like we've done with the
34:57 transit study um one example is I
35:00 attended a Kanis meeting and got some
35:02 really good feedback um so I would like
35:05 to do that again um as part of this
35:10 process
35:12 great
35:14 okay um and then yeah just getting
35:16 informal feedback where people are
35:18 currently uh meeting so that it's
35:21 mutually beneficial um we would also
35:23 like to do uh and we're proposing to do
35:26 some Community focus groups um I'll talk
35:29 about that in a moment and then all of
35:31 this would be fed through City boards
35:33 and
35:35 commissions so just a little bit more
35:37 detail on the focus groups uh groups
35:40 would be about 8 to 10 members so that
35:42 it's a really intimate group um they
35:44 would be co- facilitated by City
35:47 staff um they would be comprised of
35:49 members with diverse perspectives and
35:53 guided through a discussion tailored to
35:55 each group and so the these groups
35:57 mirror the same as the
36:00 um potential audiences and stakeholders
36:03 groups we have the business Community as
36:05 one development community and large land
36:08 owners Human Services Mobility advocacy
36:12 and current Transit writers and seniors
36:14 and youth um so we acknowledge that uh
36:18 you know people are uh people represent
36:22 different groups um in each so a senior
36:25 could also be a cent Transit writer um
36:28 so we want to make sure that uh we're
36:30 not looking too narrowly at this but um
36:33 again just trying to get some diverse
36:34 Voices That Could represent these
36:37 highlevel um interests that would be
36:40 potentially
36:42 um the same or Divergent uh depending on
36:45 uh people's perspectives so trying to
36:48 get all the information out there all
36:49 the voices um so that we can then uh
36:53 create a draft version of a vision and
36:56 set of guiding principles that we would
36:59 take to uh Equity board the economic
37:04 Vitality commission and the Human
37:06 Services Commission uh fing that through
37:09 the tab and then finally through the
37:11 committee of the whole um so again
37:14 everything sort of snowballs into each
37:16 other so we're hoping to do a uh survey
37:19 and popup events this will then inform
37:21 the focus group discussions making sure
37:23 that those are pointed and focused on uh
37:27 the specific interests of that group and
37:30 then boards and commissions and then
37:31 Committee of the
37:34 whole and this is the proposed schedule
37:37 so we are now in Winter uh which is
37:39 amazing uh we will then have about a
37:43 year-long process um starting with
37:47 developing materials and then ending at
37:50 um the final summary uh engagement
37:53 report so we're hoping to just report
37:55 out on what we've done um and just
37:57 really show how it's uh reflective um
38:00 how the vision and guiding principles
38:01 have been reflective of everything that
38:03 we've heard uh
38:06 today um so we did take this to the tab
38:10 uh they provided some feedback we've
38:13 updated the participation plan
38:15 accordingly um there was one uh piece of
38:18 feedback that we uh the administration
38:20 uh did not uh choose to incorporate um
38:24 and that was the ab desired to hire
38:27 Consultants to facilitate the focus
38:29 groups um the Administration has uh
38:33 experience with focus groups and we
38:35 don't feel that hiring Consultants would
38:37 be necessary at this
38:41 time uh so again just wrapping up this
38:45 presentation um we have two different
38:48 plans that we've discussed and we're
38:49 hoping to get uh council's
38:52 feedback right any questions on the
38:55 light rail visioning public
38:57 participation plan Deputy council
38:59 president yeah I have a handful thank
39:01 you um although on the whole fantastic
39:04 job
39:06 um uh three questions on focus groups um
39:10 although maybe I'll
39:12 start is it possible to carve out maybe
39:17 it seems like this lines up the
39:19 multilingual survey might line up with
39:21 when we do our actual Community survey
39:25 um for the city although maybe we do
39:28 that the year after next year okay never
39:31 mind I was going to ask if maybe we
39:32 could tack on a few questions about this
39:34 so just forget that feedback um around
39:37 focus groups um first one is who would
39:40 assemble these focus groups is this a
39:41 mayor appointed thing or would we would
39:44 we have staff try to understand are they
39:47 applying are we reaching out to
39:49 communities you walk us through that
39:51 yeah sure thing um at this point we're
39:55 kind of interested in the Administration
39:57 um working uh like working with uh
40:01 longrange Transportation staff and like
40:03 the executive dep Department would sort
40:05 of help with that um we also acknowledge
40:07 that certain groups um we would probably
40:11 want to recruit from uh Outreach events
40:15 um so like for example if there's a
40:17 Human Services Group and there's a
40:19 couple um members that we've been
40:21 talking to uh like we have through the
40:23 transit study or you know just like
40:26 through this process if there's a couple
40:28 that are providing a lot of good
40:29 feedback and are really engaged um we
40:31 might want to pick them out um for the
40:33 focus group so I think it'll be sort of
40:36 a combination of ways um just
40:40 acknowledging that like people are
40:41 participating in various ways so um yeah
40:45 hopefully that sort of answers your
40:46 question no it does thank you so variety
40:48 of um also um when we actually sit down
40:52 with focus groups are we thinking you
40:53 have those different kind of actual
40:55 communities that were pulling from would
40:57 the groups be a mixture of these groups
41:00 or would the focus groups be kind of
41:02 distinct identities I see benefits to
41:06 both yeah for this for this plan uh they
41:09 would be distinctive identities so that
41:10 we could um focus
41:13 on uh you know I think the meetings are
41:16 planed to be like two hours long so
41:18 they'll be you know time to introduce
41:20 General topics that will be consistent
41:22 for all groups um but we do want to
41:24 focus on the specific topics that um say
41:28 a business owner would be interested in
41:30 and then really dig into that or like um
41:33 a current Transit writer we'd want to
41:35 dig into that a lot um and so using that
41:38 time and uh really just opening the
41:41 floor to like discussion so that
41:42 everybody can really talk it out um it
41:46 may be that there's no correct answer
41:48 but we just like we want to hear all
41:50 perspectives we want to record that and
41:52 then make sure that we're thinking about
41:53 that when we're deciding like what to do
41:56 next okay that's helpful so it's not a
41:59 standard list of questions that we're
42:01 asking all the groups they're targeted
42:03 very specifically for
42:05 that okay um you know why
42:10 um what was it the board was a
42:13 transportation Advisory Board wanted
42:15 consultants for uh the focus groups you
42:18 know why the
42:19 rale uh yeah um the rationale was uh
42:24 there was somebody on the board that
42:27 used to do focus groups uh so they were
42:29 a practitioner um and so I think I
42:34 acknowledge that uh as a practitioner
42:36 you're probably like you know that's
42:37 what you're doing all the time I'm sure
42:40 you're better than I would be um or like
42:42 anybody else who doesn't do that all the
42:44 time uh but the administration does uh
42:47 have experience doing it and we feel
42:49 like we have it covered okay thank you
42:56 can we um can you talk to me a little
42:58 bit about what how we're thinking about
43:01 and defining internally co-creation
43:03 because it's definitely a buzzword and
43:06 um very big right now in the public
43:08 administration local government space um
43:13 and it's great but it can sometimes be
43:16 kind of performative and a lot of times
43:17 when we talk about co-creation it
43:20 doesn't mean our traditional collect
43:22 input from the community these ones we
43:25 we agree with these ones we have
43:26 justifications for why we don't agree
43:28 with and we move forward co-creation is
43:30 very specifically a we come to agreement
43:33 together and we do this physically
43:34 together sometimes in most time in the
43:36 same room and stuff like that so how are
43:38 we thinking about kind of co-creating a
43:40 vision at the
43:41 moment yeah the co-creation process
43:44 we're really hoping to start um at the
43:46 focus group level um so hoping to build
43:49 in some time to really focus on towards
43:53 the end of the meeting like summarizing
43:55 what we've all saids and agreeing on
43:57 that um there will be often times where
44:00 discussions are had but maybe we towards
44:03 the end of the meeting we decide as a
44:04 group maybe that's not the best approach
44:07 for this uh particular topic um so I
44:10 guess starting at the focus group level
44:13 um summarizing as a group and then
44:15 making sure that we're crystal clear on
44:17 what we've discussed that day um and
44:20 then again snowballing that to the uh
44:23 boards and commissions um boards and
44:25 commissions are often uh come into
44:27 alignment on certain topics sometimes
44:29 they don't um but at least we're being
44:31 transparent about um what's been said so
44:35 um I think that sort of gets at what
44:37 you're what you're asking um ultimately
44:40 in the process uh things will be fed
44:42 through the tab um and we're hoping to
44:46 really cross-pollinate ideas um
44:48 everything that's been shared um both
44:52 forward and backward so the tab is
44:54 interested in also communicating with
44:56 the um environmental board the EVC and
45:00 the Human Services committee so um
45:02 hoping to exchange ideas there and like
45:04 potentially do um like shared meetings
45:08 with with boards and
45:13 commissions member D Michelle
45:17 questions okay I I well then wait your
45:21 turn um just quickly on the comments or
45:26 question I we I like the Affinity groups
45:29 by and large but there are three of them
45:30 that I I I went to that you don't have
45:33 one is a neighborhood Focus U one is a
45:37 people who work here but don't live here
45:38 focus and one is the surrounding
45:40 communities focus and wondering why if
45:43 there was a reason you had excluded
45:45 those from um kind of inclusion in the
45:53 procreation I mean great point I
45:55 wouldn't say that I excluded them um but
45:57 I I do I do appreciate that and we can
45:59 certainly incorporate that that made my
46:02 question sound a lot more like a comment
46:03 didn't
46:05 it all right then we're going to move on
46:07 from questions and into comments um I
46:10 don't want to be too far out of order um
46:13 bar you want to go first do we do we
46:16 have anybody online for public comment
46:18 or thanks for
46:21 asking we do not have any virtual
46:23 attendees oh good then I can go ahead
46:25 right
46:28 so first of all and do and do both both
46:30 the both plans comment on both plans
46:34 comment on both the oh yes I will okay
46:37 yeah the first one is uh does the plan
46:40 adequately provide the city with a
46:42 Playbook to guide planning efforts
46:45 really effectively it was it was great
46:47 reading the plan and what I really liked
46:49 about it was uh the framing of all of
46:52 the Myriad policy and visioning decision
46:55 decisions we're going to have to make
46:57 over the next few years but I thought
46:59 those were laid out very very well and
47:02 uh really good examples of how other
47:05 communities have handled things and uh
47:08 why you're recommending it so I thought
47:10 the the plan itself is is really
47:13 wonderful so thank you for all the work
47:15 on that and I didn't see any additional
47:18 topics because if we do everything that
47:20 you've got in that plan we will have
47:22 we'll have done a lot of work so so I
47:24 didn't have any Sugg sus for additional
47:27 topics uh on the public participation
47:30 plan I did have uh you you said are
47:34 there any additional Community interests
47:36 or audience and like council member Ray
47:39 I have a a few uh you know I'm just
47:42 going to pitch and I know that we have a
47:45 Time limited and a staff limited we have
47:48 to make some decisions but uh when we're
47:51 reaching out to the business Community
47:53 uh I'd like to make sure that we we not
47:56 only talk to business owners but we talk
47:58 to workers and uh and how how you do
48:02 that I'm not exactly sure but uh whether
48:06 there are unions that you would want to
48:07 talk to that would be one approach uh or
48:11 if uh you find uh friendly employers who
48:14 are willing to nominate you know workers
48:17 in their companies but uh I think that
48:19 the owners have one perspective and I
48:21 think the um the workers have a very
48:25 different perspective and they are often
48:27 the people who most need the transit and
48:30 so I would just urge you to do that and
48:33 similarly with human services our Human
48:36 Services people are absolutely wonderful
48:38 they have great big picture uh and many
48:41 of them have themselves lived experience
48:44 but it would be really good if we could
48:46 figure out how to talk to people who are
48:49 currently needing Human Services or who
48:52 have the buzz word now is lived
48:54 experience um with uh Human Services uh
48:58 right directly right now so same thing
49:02 talk to the people who are in charge and
49:04 who have that big picture but let's also
49:06 get down to the people who who
49:08 potentially are the ones who really
49:10 really need the transit
49:12 services in terms of minority
49:15 populations and I ran through that whole
49:17 long list of
49:19 organizations wow um there is a new
49:22 group uh called the circle that's being
49:25 developed I believe even one of our uh
49:28 city employees is a consultant to that
49:30 uh it's serving mostly the Hispanic and
49:33 latinx uh population in isqua so I think
49:36 that would be a really good direct uh
49:39 access to that population and then let's
49:42 not forget our lgbtq population as a
49:45 minority group who often have concerns
49:47 about safety in public transit so uh
49:51 East Side pride and east of the or Pride
49:55 Pride East of the bridge is I think
49:58 those are very similar organizations and
50:00 then P flag of course would be another
50:02 source of access to that group and then
50:05 finally um let's make sure that there's
50:07 Geographic equity in the uh
50:11 representation so uh some of the
50:14 communities that are further away from
50:16 Central like the uh South Lake Union
50:19 population the Sycamore population some
50:22 of those neighborhoods that really
50:24 aren't on
50:26 the main thorough fars um be sure that
50:30 you know that somehow or another that
50:31 they get included and then um last
50:36 comment I really like the idea of
50:38 starting out with f focus groups and the
50:40 targeted questions but I would urge you
50:44 to at least consider when you get all
50:46 done with all those focus groups invite
50:48 the people that participated in the
50:50 focus groups to a community meeting and
50:53 make sure that they don't all sit
50:56 together but that they sit at tables
50:59 talking to other people with other
51:00 perspectives so that there could be this
51:03 interchange of perspectives uh I just
51:06 think that you can call it a culminating
51:09 event at the end of the focus group
51:11 process but just having the community
51:14 hear that there are all kinds of
51:16 different uh uses for Transit and all
51:19 kinds of different people that need that
51:21 would be I think an important and also
51:24 maybe come to a clearer consensus about
51:27 what the community wants after they've
51:29 been able to talk to each other so just
51:31 a suggestion that maybe that would be
51:34 something to add to the community
51:35 engagement so but I did appreciate the
51:38 long long long long long list of groups
51:42 that you're going to try and reach out
51:43 to so anyway excellent job A+ great
51:47 thank you that be council president Hall
51:50 comments uh sure thank you yeah I didn't
51:53 hear anything I disagree with plus one
51:55 all that um starting with the light rail
51:58 plan um looks excellent to me I'm um
52:03 very happy it's very proactive I
52:05 appreciate seeing also what Transit
52:09 supportive communities look like and
52:11 what they feel like I think that's a
52:12 really important thing to put up top um
52:15 also um the policy considerations for
52:18 the end ofine stationing um like we
52:20 talked about earlier there's still quite
52:21 a lot of discussion to happen there I
52:23 agree lots of work to go so hopefully we
52:26 can capture some of the um other themes
52:30 that emerged around that conversation
52:32 during questions to put in the minutes
52:34 um for the other council
52:36 members um definitely a comprehensive
52:39 view of kind of what the next steps are
52:40 what we what we should be doing when um
52:44 and what should we what should we be
52:46 focused on and when so I appreciate that
52:48 um knowing that Lynwood and and angle
52:51 link are good examples to look you is
52:53 great um I love what council member D
52:56 Michelle said earlier um in part of her
52:59 questions about how should we be
53:00 thinking about this
53:03 eventually not being an End of Line
53:07 Station to so I want to make sure that
53:08 we capture that feedback just for
53:09 Council also be mindful of um in the
53:12 minutes or or it just says this moves
53:15 along through different boards and
53:17 commissions and back to
53:18 council
53:20 um yeah again light R plan looks great
53:23 public participation plan I think pulls
53:24 a lot of that great information together
53:26 too um I think the goals meet my
53:29 expectation I love seeing the focus
53:31 group Focus there so I appreciate that
53:34 um again I I think co-creation is
53:36 wonderful I just think we need to be
53:38 specific about what we mean by that um
53:40 and whether that's actually in the plan
53:42 or more just something that we're
53:43 mindful of moving forward and knowing
53:45 that we might need to adapt um is fine
53:48 by me as long as we're intentional about
53:50 it that's a very can sometimes be a
53:52 loaded term so we just need to be very
53:54 intentional about that
53:57 um and other than that well done tons of
54:01 work has already got into this and we're
54:03 not even into
54:05 the the real meat of actually getting
54:08 the station in light rail so appreciate
54:10 all your
54:12 work did you uh do your comments on the
54:16 stakeholder plan too okay good um well
54:20 I'll uh I'll bring it home for you um I
54:22 have one only one kind of comment maybe
54:25 two on the um the plan itself the uh
54:29 kind of getting us prepared one is um
54:31 and probably the biggest one is um the
54:33 world changes a lot this is a dynamic
54:35 area and so we got to build in the plan
54:38 as a kind of a review probably on a
54:40 biannual basis to come back and say look
54:43 is this still holding true um and I have
54:45 every uh belief that sound transit will
54:47 be here in 2041 but in the event that
54:50 they don't we should be kind of um
54:53 proactively kind of adjusting to that
54:55 that and part of it is um spent some
54:58 time in our nation's capital and they
55:00 put in their Transit rail system in 1978
55:04 probably with our money though it was
55:05 Atlanta um and the plan was to extend
55:09 out to Dallas to the airport um after
55:12 they put in the initial one in 1978 that
55:14 was 45 years ago and it's still not
55:16 there so um it can happen and so I just
55:19 want us to be cautious and um you know
55:22 keep managing that expectation um as
55:25 much as I like to think we're not going
55:26 to be the end of the line I think we're
55:27 going to be the end of the line um so I
55:30 I don't share your optimism but that's
55:31 that's fine the second thing and I think
55:34 the more important thing deals really
55:35 with the Outreach plan and that is um
55:38 this is a big deal and this isn't uh a
55:41 big investment that we as a community
55:42 are going to make and I don't want to um
55:46 do the community engagement um anything
55:49 other than First Rate because we really
55:52 need to have good um good information to
55:56 make this big decision that we have to
55:57 make and I want to hear some new voices
56:00 because often when we do this we hear
56:03 the same people in the and love them to
56:05 death but in the Human Services
56:06 committee commission and the and the tab
56:09 and you know as we go down the list and
56:11 so um those are important voices but I
56:13 want to hear some new voices and so I
56:16 would suggest and you kind of tiptoed
56:18 through it which is including the survey
56:21 in the community survey I would really
56:23 like us to consider doing a um a
56:26 statistically valid survey and know it's
56:29 expensive um for this survey because um
56:33 I want to make sure that we really are
56:34 getting uh a true representation of what
56:37 people are thinking in the community not
56:40 um those those frequent voices that we
56:42 hear a lot because I don't know that
56:44 they're really truly representative so
56:47 um let's make sure that we um we don't
56:49 do this on the cheap um let's make sure
56:52 that we um listen to the people of isqua
56:54 first and foremost because they're ours
56:56 um I'd love to see a neighborhood Focus
56:58 I you know we we did that with the
57:00 council lisening sessions I thought it
57:01 was super important and you know I think
57:03 Barb you mentioned you know the S more
57:06 neighborhood that gets a little bit
57:07 overlooked or montros that gets always
57:09 overlooked um and we you know we need to
57:11 get their voices and then surrounding
57:13 Community certainly the easy3 are um
57:16 smish uh North Bend M me and then this
57:20 group of unincorporated King County that
57:23 you know have our our same name name
57:25 would also be really good and then I
57:27 don't know maybe renting Covington Maple
57:29 Valley also you know because there's
57:32 there's possibilities there um so that
57:36 that's my only thoughts on this and I
57:39 I'm not a professional facilitator but
57:41 I've worked with them and I I go back to
57:43 when we did the strategic planning and
57:45 we had I forgot the name of the firm now
57:47 did that and they facilitated a number
57:49 of sessions I thought it was really good
57:51 um to have someone outside it brings a a
57:53 a skill level and B a certain level of
57:56 Detachment which I think can be helpful
57:58 so um understand not wanting to do it
58:01 but give it another
58:02 one all I got you guys got anything
58:07 else yeah I had thought about the
58:10 population South of isqua we have a lot
58:13 of low-income people who live along the
58:15 isqua Hobart Road and uh are very much
58:18 in need of Transit and I think probably
58:21 come to the transit center and take the
58:24 bus from there
58:25 so uh if we could get their voices into
58:27 the mix I think that would be good the
58:29 circle might be a way uh to reach that
58:32 population and the other one would be
58:33 through the uh isqua food and clothing
58:36 bank uh they serve a lot of people from
58:38 south of isqua at the isqua food and
58:41 clothing bank uh they might be able to
58:43 arrange a focus group there I think they
58:45 could probably easily arrange a focus
58:47 group there so um and a lot of those uh
58:50 folks are also Spanish speaking um
58:53 English is not their first language and
58:56 so I think uh that would be an important
58:59 important group to include uh in the
59:01 focus groups that we're planning so I
59:04 agree with you Chris that that that is
59:06 an area that we serve they're not
59:08 exactly our our uh residents but we
59:11 serve
59:12 them yeah I think for us to be
59:15 successful that driving ridership is
59:16 going to be key and that that's what
59:18 what it kind of made me think of though
59:20 you know we have to look at the broader
59:22 spectrum and um I didn't mention um work
59:24 here but you did so we'll leave it at
59:26 that Thomas did you get what you needed
59:29 I did thanks very much yeah Lacy thanks
59:31 for joining us great presentation have a
59:33 great
59:34 evening um guys want to keep rolling you
59:37 want to take a minute or
59:39 two okay yeah we're we'll we'll just
59:41 take a give you a chance to catch your
59:43 breath we'll just take a f minute
59:53 recess
1:01:36 all right yep chance we're
1:01:43 ready great we are back from recess and
1:01:47 we have three agenda or three AG um
1:01:51 three items to complete all related to
1:01:53 the con comprehens Plan update um they
1:01:58 um ID 1490 which is the uh
1:02:01 Transportation element 1564 which is
1:02:05 service and utility service elements and
1:02:08 1565 which is comprehensive plan related
1:02:12 to Capital facilities element and Thomas
1:02:14 you're you're with us for another
1:02:16 whatever
1:02:17 huh absolutely all right take it away
1:02:31 and I think after this one if this would
1:02:32 work for you um let's plan to um take a
1:02:36 pause after each of the elements and do
1:02:38 questions and and
1:02:40 comments you're good with that all
1:02:45 right uh thank you again chair uh
1:02:49 Ray so tonight we'll be asking for
1:02:51 feedback on three comp plan elements
1:02:54 elements the first is the transportation
1:02:57 element followed by the utilities and
1:02:59 public services and then the third one
1:03:01 will be the capital facilities
1:03:05 element so the purpose of uh this first
1:03:08 element the transportation element uh
1:03:10 we're hoping to get your feedback um on
1:03:12 the first
1:03:14 draft and we'll be walking through each
1:03:16 of the elements to get your feedback um
1:03:18 and then we'll pause at the end of each
1:03:20 um but again we're not going to ask for
1:03:21 your feedback Until the End um of all
1:03:24 three
1:03:27 these questions are pretty similar um
1:03:31 for each element so this may look
1:03:34 redundant um first question is the same
1:03:36 for all three uh are there any
1:03:39 additional considerations that the uh
1:03:42 planning policy commission should study
1:03:44 prior to finalizing their
1:03:45 recommendations to city
1:03:47 council um are there proposed change
1:03:51 sorry do the proposed changes uh fully
1:03:53 meet the expectations of the
1:03:55 transportation element
1:03:57 update and are there any other topics
1:03:59 that the administration should consider
1:04:01 uh when making edits to the
1:04:08 draft so the mobility um which we also
1:04:11 call Transportation uh Capital
1:04:14 facilities and utilities elements are
1:04:17 all required uh for the
1:04:20 GMA um for this update there's a new
1:04:23 element
1:04:24 called the environment element and this
1:04:26 is receiving many of the greenhouse gas
1:04:29 emission reduction policies that were uh
1:04:31 currently in the transportation
1:04:35 element um the primary goal of the
1:04:38 transportation element update is to
1:04:40 attempt to better coordinate with
1:04:42 functional plans that we currently have
1:04:44 so we have the mobility master plan uh
1:04:46 which we will update as part of this
1:04:48 process in
1:04:50 2024 uh but it was last updated in 2020
1:04:54 and um this currently administers the
1:04:57 transportation element we also have the
1:05:00 street standards update which we updated
1:05:03 last year uh this currently uh you know
1:05:06 guides how we build roads uh throughout
1:05:10 city both the Construction and design um
1:05:14 last year you'll remember we updated the
1:05:17 land use code um there was some
1:05:18 Transportation topics that we went into
1:05:22 much detail about so we're hoping to
1:05:24 reflect some of those conversations
1:05:26 through the comp
1:05:29 plan uh this year we also um worked on
1:05:34 the Ada transition plan so this is
1:05:37 improving uh accessibility for folks
1:05:40 with Mobility challenges and generally
1:05:42 reducing barriers to
1:05:44 Mobility uh also in development we have
1:05:47 the transit study uh many of those
1:05:50 discussions um that we had tonight um
1:05:53 and then
1:05:54 just general discussions on how to
1:05:56 improve uh Transit service throughout
1:05:58 the community um those are also
1:06:00 reflected in the transportation element
1:06:06 update this slide just really just shows
1:06:09 how the comp plan feeds into functional
1:06:11 plans um transportation element is an
1:06:15 example uh of a comp plan element and
1:06:17 then how it feeds into the functional
1:06:19 plans that uh really carry out uh the
1:06:23 vision goals and
1:06:24 policies uh that then leads to how we
1:06:27 pay for things uh so the financing and
1:06:30 implementation um and then finally we
1:06:33 Track Performance uh annually on how
1:06:36 we're
1:06:39 doing so going back to the
1:06:41 transportation element uh we currently
1:06:43 have it organized as such uh so we have
1:06:46 proactive
1:06:47 safety climate and quality of life
1:06:50 multimodal balance system we talk about
1:06:53 walking biking taking transit driving
1:06:57 and then also we have an implementation
1:07:02 section we took this document to the uh
1:07:05 Transportation Advisory Board and then
1:07:08 we took it to the planning policy
1:07:10 commission we got their feedback um that
1:07:12 feedback is reflected in the um staff
1:07:15 report as well as the
1:07:18 attachments and the administration is uh
1:07:22 proposing changes
1:07:24 uh to be better in compliance with HB
1:07:27 11181 um which has updated how we uh
1:07:31 plan for climate
1:07:32 change uh we also want to reflect uh our
1:07:37 community's desire to be more climate
1:07:39 resilient and be able to um adapt to
1:07:42 natural
1:07:43 disasters um greenhouse gas emissions is
1:07:46 a big topic we're really interested in
1:07:49 reducing those so that's reflective uh
1:07:52 in this element
1:07:54 there's been discussions on how to
1:07:55 improve multimodal Transportation
1:07:57 options throughout the community so
1:07:58 we've tried to address that here as
1:08:01 well and again the the transit study has
1:08:04 really brought up a lot of uh ideas on
1:08:07 how to uh better support Transit through
1:08:10 policy so that's in here as well uh
1:08:12 through Title 18 um through the land use
1:08:15 code update uh we talked a lot about
1:08:17 right sizing parking and uh curb suits
1:08:20 management uh is another uh parking
1:08:22 related topic that will be very
1:08:24 important to discuss especially as we
1:08:26 consider um how Central isqua will
1:08:29 develop in the next 20 years and then
1:08:33 also we want to be just generally
1:08:34 consistent with the other elements so
1:08:35 we're hoping to make some changes in
1:08:37 that realm
1:08:39 too so just walking through the changes
1:08:43 um we made several minor updates uh we
1:08:47 also want to be
1:08:50 um aligned with State and County
1:08:53 requirements um So within the climate
1:08:55 and quality of life section that's what
1:08:57 we've done
1:08:58 here for multimodal balance system as
1:09:02 well as walking and biking uh we have
1:09:05 new changes to incorporate feedback that
1:09:07 we received uh so one of the things we
1:09:09 heard was the desire to pursue micr
1:09:12 Mobility options um so that that is
1:09:14 reflective as a policy
1:09:17 here we also have some minor updates to
1:09:20 existing policies as well as an update
1:09:22 uh that was a um recommendation from the
1:09:25 transit
1:09:29 study uh for the transit section we have
1:09:32 some uh minor changes um as well as some
1:09:39 uh some desires to be consistent with
1:09:41 state
1:09:44 requirements and then for auto travel
1:09:48 implementation again some some
1:09:51 adjustments to be alignment with Title
1:09:54 uh a new policy related to curb Space
1:09:56 Management um which came about through
1:09:58 the T 18
1:10:00 process and um as was pointed out by the
1:10:03 planning policy commission we were
1:10:05 lacking an implementation uh goal um
1:10:08 which isn't to say that we don't uh
1:10:10 track how we're doing um but it just
1:10:12 wasn't reflected in this document so
1:10:14 hoping to add that to add
1:10:18 consistency I think I'll pause here and
1:10:21 answer any questions you might have
1:10:24 any any questions at this
1:10:30 point see um I sent uh Thomas a question
1:10:35 earlier today um just uh and there's
1:10:41 many responses to this so but I was
1:10:44 asking do we have a statement in the
1:10:46 comprehensive plan related to Transit
1:10:48 integration with affordable housing or
1:10:50 multif family housing development and I
1:10:53 sent you know I worded very
1:10:56 Loosely a way that maybe that could be
1:10:59 stated but um and uh I got a response
1:11:02 back that in the housing element we do
1:11:05 in fact have uh a statement that uh
1:11:09 affordable housing and multif family
1:11:11 housing should be located near Transit
1:11:14 I'm just wondering if in the
1:11:15 comprehensive plan we want to do a
1:11:17 companion statement to that emphasizing
1:11:20 the transportation part of it that um
1:11:23 and I became aware of this because um I
1:11:26 do represent the city at the East Side
1:11:28 Transportation partnership and this was
1:11:31 brought up as an issue uh with the
1:11:34 emphasis in Washington state now on
1:11:35 affordable housing and making sure that
1:11:38 we have the infrastructure to serve all
1:11:39 that affordable housing um council
1:11:42 member um how from samamish was making
1:11:46 the point and actually that was adopted
1:11:49 as part of the Eastside Transportation
1:11:50 partnership legislative priorities they
1:11:53 adopted a much stronger support for uh
1:11:57 the idea of integrating Transit into the
1:12:00 affordable housing uh element so anyway
1:12:03 I'm bringing it up as a possibility I
1:12:05 know this has already been through a
1:12:07 couple of boards and commissions and
1:12:10 that it's very hard to add something at
1:12:11 this late date but I just want to bring
1:12:13 it up for discussion purposes thank
1:12:17 you can I comment on on on your comment
1:12:20 it was a great question um so this but I
1:12:24 have kind of a following question and
1:12:25 this is more about the comprehensive
1:12:27 plan uh in total um um do we do we want
1:12:32 to have things appear in M similar
1:12:34 Concepts and play in more than one place
1:12:36 just because of maintaining
1:12:39 synchronous synchronizing those things
1:12:41 over time so that that's the only
1:12:43 thought I I had as you were talking
1:12:44 about that so I'll just let you think
1:12:46 about that um you know how do we how do
1:12:50 we capture what we want to accomplish
1:12:51 yes but where's the best place to
1:12:53 capture it yeah it's a really great
1:12:56 comment and something that's come up
1:12:57 through this process um I think it
1:13:00 really boils down and this was a really
1:13:02 uh great comment that was made at
1:13:04 planing policy commission um they talked
1:13:06 about a similar concept I think as it
1:13:08 relates to utilities um but I think it
1:13:11 really boils down to like maintaining it
1:13:14 um as long as we're aware of where it's
1:13:16 at um this document is really high level
1:13:19 it's used by staff primarily but also
1:13:22 other folks will look at it um just to
1:13:24 to verify like how policies came about
1:13:28 how regulations came about um so it's
1:13:32 really a judgment call staff feels
1:13:33 comfortable um incorporating it uh where
1:13:38 it makes sense uh we can also have it in
1:13:40 multiple places um we want to make sure
1:13:44 that we're not um having direct
1:13:46 references to like Standalone documents
1:13:49 that could expire at some point so we've
1:13:51 actually and I can touch on this later
1:13:53 but we've removed direct like links to
1:13:57 specific documents which will not last
1:13:59 20 years obviously um yeah I mean we we
1:14:02 feel comfortable if something is a topic
1:14:05 like this which is very interdisiplinary
1:14:06 we can certainly add it in multiple
1:14:10 locations any
1:14:13 questions thank you uh just a couple
1:14:16 most of them our comments um goal
1:14:21 D1 um
1:14:24 is there was a change mated um added
1:14:28 sidewalks on both sides of the street
1:14:29 within a quarter mile of Transit stops
1:14:31 as part of tier two
1:14:33 um by the way if if we can't answer this
1:14:36 tonight that's fine we can look into it
1:14:38 um um outside of this meeting but I'm
1:14:40 curious what kind of impact that would
1:14:42 have on Newport Way Northwest I know our
1:14:44 design of that street has only one side
1:14:47 Sidewalk protect the hillside um so if
1:14:52 there's not a response about or if we're
1:14:55 not sure what kind of impact that would
1:14:56 have there maybe just something to look
1:14:58 into because I think that's um I think
1:15:02 that's a commitment we've already made
1:15:03 with that design um so just something
1:15:05 that popped a flag with me um an actual
1:15:08 question that I have is policy or in
1:15:12 f um goal F4 was to partner with King
1:15:16 County Metro on Sound Transit to enhance
1:15:18 Transit service options they tab
1:15:21 supported it generally but
1:15:25 um said maybe changing it to Transit
1:15:28 service
1:15:29 providers case of name changes I I just
1:15:31 didn't see a response to that
1:15:34 comment yeah that's a good comment um so
1:15:38 this kind of goes back to uh what chair
1:15:41 Ray mentioned about um agencies
1:15:44 dissolving as a potential um
1:15:46 so from like a um legal perspective like
1:15:50 does calling out the specific Transit
1:15:52 Agency name
1:15:54 uh is that better practice than just
1:15:56 saying any Transit Agency that's serving
1:15:59 a squa so um we're going to run that by
1:16:01 legal to see like what uh what they have
1:16:04 to say about it um okay we currently
1:16:06 feel like it's comfortable like other
1:16:08 cities do it this way but like it's a
1:16:10 really great Point um the day you're
1:16:13 right this is a document that staff look
1:16:16 at to interpret other stuff it's not so
1:16:19 even if something changes staff wouldn't
1:16:20 be like oh no it only says Sound Transit
1:16:23 work with other ones so okay um those
1:16:26 are my only questions about the
1:16:29 transportation all right I think I'm
1:16:31 entitled to one really dumb question
1:16:33 each committee meeting um what is
1:16:37 micromobility love that you asked that
1:16:39 question um so
1:16:42 micromobility technically is just like a
1:16:44 very small vehicle um in practice it's
1:16:48 like scooters bikes um anything like
1:16:54 okay and then um my more substantive
1:16:57 question uh dealing with uh particularly
1:17:00 the the G um ones particularly G1 um
1:17:03 traffic operations and intersections um
1:17:06 what's the tie-in with concurrency
1:17:07 because I know that's on a Horizon
1:17:10 2 yeah it's a really great question uh
1:17:13 we we are looking at updating our
1:17:15 concurrency model um we will be just
1:17:18 doing a minor update at first and then
1:17:20 we will look at uh if we want uh like
1:17:23 how multimodal uh level service could be
1:17:26 incorporated um so making sure that
1:17:28 we're thinking about not just cars but
1:17:30 also um the service needs of bikes
1:17:34 pedestrians Transit all that um so we're
1:17:37 looking into it we're we will be
1:17:39 updating uh our concurrency process um
1:17:43 this year okay cool um any other
1:17:47 questions sorry next year I apologize
1:17:49 about that any other questions anybody
1:17:52 online did anybody want to speak anyone
1:17:56 online Okay
1:17:58 um I was going to just ask Thomas you
1:18:00 want all the comments at the end or you
1:18:01 want them in
1:18:03 blocks I'll defer to you um I I was
1:18:06 planning on taking it all at once at the
1:18:08 end but if it makes we'll do questions
1:18:11 at the end of the blocks and we'll we'll
1:18:12 save comments at the end then okay all
1:18:14 right works good next
1:18:21 block
1:18:28 right so next we'll talk about utilities
1:18:30 and public
1:18:33 services so similar uh process we're
1:18:37 hoping to get your in uh your input on
1:18:40 the first draft of the
1:18:42 element and these are nearly identical
1:18:47 questions uh to what you've just seen
1:18:49 um are there any additional
1:18:51 considerations for the planning policy
1:18:53 commission to that they should study
1:18:56 prior to finalizing their
1:18:57 recommendations do the proposed changes
1:19:01 uh fully meet the expectations of the
1:19:03 utilities and public services element
1:19:05 update are there any other topics for
1:19:08 the administration to
1:19:09 consider when making final
1:19:14 edits um so for this utilities and
1:19:17 public services element again this is an
1:19:19 attempt to reduce
1:19:21 redundancies uh support the City's
1:19:23 commitments to to
1:19:25 sustainability then to better coordinate
1:19:27 with functional plans um so you may
1:19:29 notice that the document is completely
1:19:32 uh reorganized um and that was again to
1:19:35 reduce redundancies that were sprinkled
1:19:38 throughout the document so hoping to
1:19:40 just make it a little bit clearer um in
1:19:42 terms of coordination we are
1:19:44 coordinating uh with recent functional
1:19:47 plans um so several utilities plans have
1:19:49 been updated uh we also updated the
1:19:51 street standards up update um so this is
1:19:55 again what design what uh guides how we
1:19:58 uh design roads and utilities are often
1:20:01 um found in
1:20:02 roads there was also uh many utilities
1:20:06 and public services type updates within
1:20:08 the land use
1:20:12 code and the isqua police department has
1:20:16 a policy manual that was updated in 2020
1:20:19 reflecting uh that as well
1:20:24 uh we took this document to the planning
1:20:27 policy commission uh for their review uh
1:20:30 we got a lot of good feedback and that
1:20:32 feedback is also in the
1:20:34 packet
1:20:40 um and again the uh the changes uh that
1:20:43 we're recommending tonight include uh
1:20:45 minor updates and
1:20:47 revisions
1:20:49 um ways to reduce redundancies we also
1:20:52 want to uh the in coordination with
1:20:55 State Regional and Cy uh
1:20:57 regulations uh we also have uh policies
1:21:01 that will further our climate resiliency
1:21:04 and our ability to weather natural
1:21:07 disasters reflecting also our greenhouse
1:21:10 gas emission reduction uh goals as well
1:21:13 as um our desire to improve Equity with
1:21:15 throughout the
1:21:18 community I'm actually going to pause
1:21:20 here uh I need a battery
1:21:23 need to charge my my
1:21:51 computer
1:22:07 okay back in business right back in
1:22:09 business yeah I've just been talking so
1:22:12 long um my computer's turn to die yeah
1:22:15 thanks very much
1:22:23 um so again uh looking specifically at
1:22:27 the utilities um Public Services element
1:22:31 uh you'll notice that it's been
1:22:32 completely reorganized um again this is
1:22:35 just to help out with the flow um reduce
1:22:38 a lot of the Clutter
1:22:40 um there were several uh sort of Legacy
1:22:43 uh policies and goals that were carried
1:22:46 over for many iterations of of updates
1:22:49 um it's really just kind of a cleanup
1:22:51 effort with some revisions and just
1:22:54 making it uh more applicable to
1:22:58 today you'll see that lots of these
1:23:00 goals um are aligned with previous goals
1:23:04 and there's sort of a amalgamation of
1:23:07 themes that we've collected throughout
1:23:09 the old
1:23:11 document we also have uh with Goal F we
1:23:14 are expanding it to include septic
1:23:16 management which was not part of it
1:23:21 previously so
1:23:23 for uh for goal a this is level service
1:23:26 and future
1:23:28 needs
1:23:30 um the summary of this is we're making
1:23:32 changes to support implementation and
1:23:35 reduce
1:23:37 redundancies for goal B we're trying to
1:23:40 consolidate and improve consistency and
1:23:43 make sure that we're compliant with uh
1:23:46 with regulations uh through the county
1:23:49 as well as coordination with our IAP
1:24:00 do apologize looks like my computer was
1:24:07 connected want to how long five minutes
1:24:09 want we're going to do another five
1:24:11 minute recess
1:24:12 for technical
1:24:15 support we'll be back
1:24:21 shortly
1:25:29 all right chance I think we're ready to
1:25:32 go I like this all right we are back I'm
1:25:37 just back in business back in business
1:25:40 thanks very much I apologize for
1:25:42 technical difficulties um so I will go
1:25:45 back just to
1:25:47 refresh R um so again uh updates to goal
1:25:51 a this is to support implementation and
1:25:54 reduce
1:25:56 redundancies uh goal B changes we're
1:25:58 hoping to consolidate add consistency
1:26:02 and make sure that we're being
1:26:03 compliant with regulations and uh you
1:26:06 know coordinating with
1:26:09 IAP with Goal C uh we're really just
1:26:12 hoping to reduce redundancies on this
1:26:15 one um this is related to service and
1:26:19 coordination and
1:26:21 collaboration
1:26:30 with gold D changes to Resource
1:26:34 conservation um this is to support
1:26:36 sustainability efforts as well as reduce
1:26:38 redundancies throughout the
1:26:41 document uh goal e is about water
1:26:43 utilities and we're hoping to reduce
1:26:45 redundancies and improve
1:26:49 formatting for goal F and G uh lots of
1:26:54 these changes are to improve service
1:26:56 outcomes and to Pro our conservation
1:27:02 efforts I'll pause here for um for
1:27:05 questions
1:27:07 questions council
1:27:09 president just one since this one was um
1:27:12 really
1:27:13 straightforward but there's one um
1:27:16 policy
1:27:17 D12 which is
1:27:19 under resource conservation that says
1:27:23 reduce material going to garbage by
1:27:25 diverting more to recycle and compost
1:27:27 the regulations programs incentives and
1:27:29 education and Outreach we have um like
1:27:32 landfill diversion elsewhere um so I I
1:27:36 wasn't sure if we had chosen the word
1:27:38 garbage like specifically because like
1:27:40 when I think of garbage garbage I think
1:27:41 of someone's like individual Gar so
1:27:43 maybe this Focus was more on the
1:27:45 individual and less on broader landfill
1:27:47 diversion so my question is I thought
1:27:50 the word garbage was kind of an odd um
1:27:53 Choice there so what was the intent
1:27:55 behind this
1:27:57 one I'm actually going to lean on uh
1:28:00 Matt Ellis who's
1:28:02 uh with us remotely he's our um
1:28:07 utilities engineering
1:28:10 manager sorry I'm not able to attend
1:28:12 tonight I'm under the weather um but my
1:28:15 Ellis utility engineering manager and on
1:28:17 that one I think it was just an
1:28:18 oversight so we are mainly we are
1:28:21 looking at
1:28:22 uh reduce reduction of solid waste as a
1:28:26 whole uh and uh diversion to uh
1:28:31 Recycling and compost for not just
1:28:34 residential but for all uh practices so
1:28:37 it might be just a wording I think that
1:28:39 we can
1:28:41 change okay thanks Matt I'm sorry you're
1:28:43 under the weather but thanks for the
1:28:45 clarification
1:28:48 y any other questions on this section
1:28:52 okay let's
1:28:55 uh move on then to Capital
1:29:05 facilities again we'll uh move into
1:29:08 Capital facilities and you'll be asked
1:29:10 the similar questions that you've been
1:29:13 asked uh the previous um any additional
1:29:17 considerations for the PPC to study
1:29:20 before finalizing their recommendations
1:29:22 uh do the proposed changes meet your
1:29:24 expectations for the capital facilities
1:29:26 element update and are there any
1:29:29 additional topics that the
1:29:30 administration should consider when
1:29:32 making final
1:29:36 edits um so Capital facil facilities
1:29:40 again uh hoping to reduce redundancies
1:29:42 and support the city's commitment to
1:29:45 sustainability and better coordinate
1:29:48 with functional plans so as it relates
1:29:50 to Capital facilities we have several
1:29:52 utilities plans that have been updated
1:29:55 throughout the last couple years Street
1:29:57 standards land use code
1:30:00 update again we have the uh ipd uh
1:30:04 police policy manual as well as some
1:30:06 updates to Mobility master plan Parks um
1:30:10 the capital Improvement program the
1:30:12 transportation Improvement program and
1:30:15 uh some updates uh to the Sewer Master
1:30:18 Plan which is in
1:30:20 development the the document is
1:30:22 organized we have three sections level
1:30:25 of service sustainability and results
1:30:29 accountability we took this to the
1:30:31 planning policy commission for their
1:30:32 review they had some really good uh
1:30:35 comments which we've uh Incorporated in
1:30:37 here and uh the administration is
1:30:39 recommending that we uh make the
1:30:42 following changes to reduce redundancy
1:30:45 um support our sustainability
1:30:46 commitments and then also um improve our
1:30:50 implementation um so they can really be
1:30:53 summarized on a couple slides um just
1:30:56 some really minor updates to level of
1:30:59 service as well as uh
1:31:02 consistency with regulations uh in Gold
1:31:05 d uh we have some minor updates to um
1:31:10 really attempt to uh improve
1:31:13 implementation um from the finance uh
1:31:16 perspective uh City budgeting and then
1:31:19 uh making sure that revenue is
1:31:23 priority there are also some uh topics
1:31:26 that were
1:31:27 uh based off Title 18 so making sure
1:31:31 that we're um promoting sustainability
1:31:34 uh and Equitable practices and making
1:31:37 sure that um the periodic update uh
1:31:41 goals are uh
1:31:45 aligned um so just to sort of wrap up
1:31:47 these three uh element topics
1:31:52 um timing and next steps the council's
1:31:54 going to uh get another shot at this um
1:31:58 and then we're hoping to adopt in Q3 um
1:32:04 year I'll just stop on this slide um
1:32:07 this is a sum summary of the three uh
1:32:10 elements and hoping to get your feedback
1:32:12 on these three any uh before we go into
1:32:16 feedback any uh questions Rel related to
1:32:19 Capital
1:32:20 facilities or the
1:32:22 timeline council president um really
1:32:25 quick one on a level of service one
1:32:28 policy B9 this is the one that just
1:32:31 talks about how there are five
1:32:33 intersections that can operate at a
1:32:34 level of service of e or F and I was
1:32:37 just curious here's why why that is it
1:32:39 just because there's so much beyond our
1:32:41 control at those particular areas that's
1:32:44 exactly right yeah those um those level
1:32:46 of level service e intersections are Ty
1:32:49 typically the wash dot intersections um
1:32:52 we we really don't have much control
1:32:54 over those
1:33:03 so um have any questions well let's uh
1:33:06 let's do some feedback then um Direction
1:33:12 um I want to go
1:33:19 first um all right
1:33:22 uh if it's okay with you I've kind of
1:33:26 flagged places of feedback in the
1:33:28 section so I'm just going to go through
1:33:29 it so bear with me some of them have
1:33:31 already been answered and addressed
1:33:32 already won't be here um so starting
1:33:37 with the transportation element this
1:33:39 wasn't
1:33:41 um should have just wrote it all
1:33:45 out this wasn't uh a change in the
1:33:49 transportation element but one
1:33:52 of the policies in goal a proactive
1:33:55 safety is about developing and adapting
1:33:56 a vision zero ordinance U which is about
1:33:59 pedestrian safety and reducing
1:34:01 collisions um I was I think it might and
1:34:06 I don't know if it needs to live in here
1:34:07 or maybe it's more on the implementation
1:34:09 side as staff but it' be good for us to
1:34:12 have some language about how we learn
1:34:14 from the successes and shortcomings of
1:34:16 cities who have tried to do this um
1:34:18 Seattle being a prime example of a lot
1:34:21 of short comings in their Vision zero
1:34:22 plan even the Seattle Department of
1:34:25 Transportation secretary or director
1:34:27 whatever they call it saying that a lot
1:34:29 of their program is very siloed uh and
1:34:31 lives in kind of one part of esta and
1:34:34 not throughout the whole city so I don't
1:34:36 know if that's good feedback for this
1:34:39 language or just something to be mindful
1:34:40 of during implementation just wanted to
1:34:42 make sure to say that um because I know
1:34:45 bview has had problems with that too
1:34:47 so their Vision zero plan um all right
1:34:53 be up there I think that was just
1:34:56 [Music]
1:35:00 agreeing know that we'll see oh it's
1:35:02 this one um there also wasn't a update
1:35:06 to this one the last one of goal B
1:35:08 policy B6 support the implementation of
1:35:11 the park strategic plan including the
1:35:13 development of the green necklace um I
1:35:17 know this just because I'm also on the
1:35:22 what's the other committee that I'm on
1:35:25 Planning Development and environment um
1:35:28 committee and council member hunt would
1:35:30 say that we need stronger language
1:35:32 around the green necklace here so my
1:35:34 suggestion is we just remove the word
1:35:36 support and we do implement the park
1:35:38 strategic plan including the development
1:35:39 of the green necklace
1:35:44 um um and I think that regardless of
1:35:47 what we do here at the committee that
1:35:49 she'll want to do that once it comes to
1:35:51 the full Council anyways so I agree with
1:35:53 her anyways I think we should be a
1:35:55 little bit stronger there um so um let's
1:35:58 remove support um go
1:36:01 [Music]
1:36:08 C oh I'm
1:36:12 sorry um oh um consider goal C5 is the
1:36:17 one that's a partner with Sound Transit
1:36:18 and bring light R service to isquad by
1:36:20 adopting supportive land use policies
1:36:22 one of the feedback of tab and PPC was
1:36:25 to consider specifying what those land
1:36:27 use policies might be um you said
1:36:30 earlier in the presentation not that we
1:36:32 wouldn't want to reference specific
1:36:33 plans but the light rail plan that we
1:36:36 just looked at did talk about some kind
1:36:38 of internal policies that we should
1:36:40 consider and start framing conversations
1:36:42 to prepare for light rail including land
1:36:44 use so maybe we maybe we'd be specific
1:36:47 and reference some of that work or again
1:36:50 maybe that's more of an
1:36:52 implementation um aspect I just wanted
1:36:55 to provide that
1:36:58 feedback um gold D again this is the the
1:37:02 one about sidewalks on both sides um
1:37:04 within a quarter mile of Transit stops
1:37:07 let's just check and make sure that
1:37:08 doesn't have any adverse impact on our
1:37:10 plans for Newport Way
1:37:12 Northwest
1:37:13 um go e was the one about increasing go
1:37:17 E2 was the one about increasing use of
1:37:19 electric pedal assisted
1:37:22 bicycles
1:37:24 um I know PPC wanted to distinguish
1:37:27 ebikes from mopeds I would actually
1:37:29 rather go in the opposite direction of
1:37:31 being more inclusive of any kind of e
1:37:34 assisted micr Mobility option especially
1:37:37 because over the next 20 years we have
1:37:38 no idea what those potential
1:37:40 alternatives are going to look like so I
1:37:42 think maybe if we say pedal assistant
1:37:44 bicycles that's fine I would I would
1:37:46 Advocate that we also include and other
1:37:49 emerging micro ability similar emerging
1:37:52 micro ability tools or something like
1:37:56 um and that is actually all my feedback
1:38:00 on Transportation oh are we doing all
1:38:03 the elements just keep it going okay all
1:38:05 right sorry the other ones um I was just
1:38:09 very passionate about that element so
1:38:11 there's a lot more there the other ones
1:38:13 are a lot more straightforward in my
1:38:14 mind and that's ATT Testament to the
1:38:16 reorganization and the great work that
1:38:17 you and staff did
1:38:20 um so it sounds like for the um the
1:38:23 utilities and public services element
1:38:26 we're going to look at that goal or
1:38:28 policy E2 which says garbage and just
1:38:31 make sure that's aligned with what we
1:38:33 truly mean by that and I thought I
1:38:35 thought there was another policy later
1:38:36 on in the the element that talked about
1:38:39 land waste diversion so that that might
1:38:41 even be one we consider striking just
1:38:44 for redundancy purposes but I'll leave
1:38:45 that up to all of you um I think that
1:38:48 was all that I had on utility
1:38:51 utilities and public services except to
1:38:53 say that the new section on septic and
1:38:57 Sewer is perfectly aligned with the
1:39:00 conversation that we had at committee
1:39:02 last month so just wanted to say that on
1:39:03 camera thank you
1:39:06 um and capital facilities
1:39:11 element well that was just a question we
1:39:13 might actually be good on the
1:39:16 cap oh I think actually just a
1:39:22 somewhat of a disagreement with some PPC
1:39:24 feedback so goal F which is around
1:39:26 sustainability seemed like there was
1:39:28 maybe some PP PPC conversation around um
1:39:33 it being difficult to keep track of um
1:39:36 implementation of sustainability if it's
1:39:38 living in multiple
1:39:40 elements I don't think that's
1:39:41 necessarily true especially because
1:39:43 these these documents are really high
1:39:44 level policy documents that staff are
1:39:47 are looking to and sometimes you're just
1:39:49 looking at one element so it would be be
1:39:51 good to have some guidance around sust
1:39:52 sustainability when you're focused in
1:39:54 that one element so I just wanted to say
1:39:56 for the record I'm not I'm not concerned
1:39:58 with that um those are my specific
1:40:02 tweaks um and feedback
1:40:06 points don't think I have any additional
1:40:09 topics for the administration to
1:40:11 continue we did get um the
1:40:13 administration to consider we did get
1:40:15 some um Community feedback and there
1:40:18 were two points um one was
1:40:22 whether I think it was the
1:40:26 second abilities and public services um
1:40:30 potentially removing the references to
1:40:33 um when feasible with regard to um City
1:40:37 development and um and there being a
1:40:40 concern that there might be different
1:40:41 paths for public and private development
1:40:44 and I just wanted to say I I don't
1:40:45 necessarily feel that concerned myself I
1:40:47 I think it's important in the role of
1:40:50 the city to set policy for um throughout
1:40:53 the city and and to be responsive to the
1:40:55 community and their priorities but it's
1:40:57 also our role to be fiduciaries and
1:40:59 sometimes those two inflict when we're
1:41:02 looking at our own properties something
1:41:04 to think about for the administration I
1:41:06 guess but I just wanted to say that I
1:41:07 don't feel strongly about making those
1:41:10 changes in removing that language and
1:41:12 then also if you think that there was
1:41:14 also an ask to include some reference to
1:41:16 stream projects and Wetland enhancement
1:41:18 projects that I thought potentially
1:41:20 could useful feedback so just wanted to
1:41:22 elevate that here and if you think that
1:41:24 should exist anywhere in these documents
1:41:26 or if that's more part um great um and
1:41:31 then just to close out I want to say
1:41:33 thank you for all the incredible work
1:41:35 you've done on this um this is a lot of
1:41:40 paper and um you know Council m d
1:41:44 Michelle and I are both on two
1:41:45 committees so we have had to look at
1:41:46 lots of these packets over the last few
1:41:48 months and they are all equally
1:41:51 um thick and demonstrate the hard work
1:41:55 that our staff are doing to make sure
1:41:57 that we're aligning all of plans updates
1:42:00 with our new plans community visioning
1:42:02 and all that stuff so I just really
1:42:04 wanted to say I appreciate this this
1:42:06 could not have taken I'm sure this took
1:42:08 a long time to put together and prepare
1:42:10 for these conversations and the number
1:42:11 of touches that all these things have
1:42:13 had with boards and commissions
1:42:16 too good
1:42:19 job d any comments okay I'm totally
1:42:23 embarrassed and CH
1:42:24 grin because uh uh my comments will be
1:42:28 very brief uh uh thank you so much
1:42:31 council member hall for the thorough
1:42:34 review uh of the items that you
1:42:37 mentioned I would do a plus one on the
1:42:40 stronger wording for the green necklace
1:42:44 uh I know council member hunt has
1:42:45 expressed that she wants stronger
1:42:47 language there and I support that as
1:42:50 well so
1:42:51 um and then uh I've already expressed
1:42:54 the additional item that I would like to
1:42:56 see considered at least in the uh
1:42:59 Transportation element and other than
1:43:02 that um I I refer to council member Hall
1:43:05 he did really great review uh I did not
1:43:08 have any other additions that I wanted
1:43:10 to bring to your uh attention um and I
1:43:14 do join him as well in saying uh
1:43:17 fantastic job look at the amount of work
1:43:19 that you brought before us tonight so
1:43:22 thank you again for U just all the work
1:43:24 that you do and that all the team does
1:43:27 it's it's really impressive so thank
1:43:30 you I have to be doubly um I'm not going
1:43:33 to say anything because I think you guys
1:43:35 did a spectacular job of going going
1:43:37 through the document in great detail um
1:43:40 the one thing I really I I do want to
1:43:41 say is on the appreciation thing the
1:43:45 documents you know and I I haven't been
1:43:47 around as long as hola has but I've been
1:43:49 around for a while now the documents are
1:43:51 getting so much better and so much
1:43:52 easier to read and so much easier to
1:43:54 follow and and that's that's not
1:43:56 happening by accident and so taking the
1:43:59 time to do the cleanup is really uh
1:44:01 delivering great results so thank you
1:44:03 guys for for um doing some of that very
1:44:07 tedious work but it it really pays super
1:44:10 dividends so that's all I've got Thomas
1:44:12 do you have what you need got everything
1:44:15 I need thanks very much for your
1:44:16 comments appreciate it right um we um at
1:44:19 the end of the agenda any announcements
1:44:22 comments no all right then we're going
1:44:25 to adjourn the meeting at 8:15 thank you

Attendance

Council / Members (12)
Barbara de Michele
Zach Hall
Victoria Hunt
Tola Marts
Chris Reh
Lindsey Walsh
Tisha Gieser, City Clerk
Emily Moon, Public Works Director
Jeff Watling, Parks & Community Services
Director
Emily Appleton, Engineering Manager
Paula Schwan, Chief of Police
Excused
Russell Joe