City Council Special Meeting · Monday, October 8, 2018 · City Council Digest

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0:13 ↗ good evening and welcome to the Monday

0:17 ↗ October 8 aqua city council committee

0:20 ↗ work session we counsel deputy president

0:25 ↗ batiste and councilmember winter Stein

0:26 ↗ are excused and we are going to have

0:29 ↗ three items this evening we're gonna

0:31 ↗ start with I do three for zero a Sequoia

0:34 ↗ and clothing bank then there's gonna be

0:36 ↗ a slight change in the agenda we're

0:37 ↗ gonna go to I do 349 East Side Fire and

0:40 ↗ Rescue budget overview and we're gonna

0:42 ↗ end the evening with ID zero three three

0:44 ↗ four the arch parity update and so we

0:50 ↗ will be offering audience comment

0:51 ↗ between each of the three items if you

0:53 ↗ are so inclined and with that we're

0:56 ↗ gonna start off with I do three four

0:59 ↗ zero is equal and clothing bank and I'm

1:01 ↗ going to start with City Administrator

1:03 ↗ moon thank you good evening I'm pleased

1:08 ↗ to help introduce this item tonight the

1:10 ↗ squad food and clothing bank is here to

1:12 ↗ give a presentation about their growing

1:16 ↗ service needs and their desire to

1:19 ↗ operate out of an expanded facility

1:21 ↗ currently they operate out of a

1:24 ↗ city-owned building and that's why

1:26 ↗ they're speaking to you first one of the

1:30 ↗ options that they have explored is to

1:32 ↗ replace the existing structure with a

1:35 ↗ larger structure in order to meet their

1:38 ↗ service needs and they'll explain that

1:41 ↗ proposal to you tonight however in

1:44 ↗ addition to just sharing that

1:45 ↗ information we're hoping to gather any

1:48 ↗ questions that you might have so that we

1:50 ↗ can help you as representatives as

1:55 ↗ property owner helped determine how we

1:59 ↗ want to handle this proposal so I've

2:02 ↗ laid out some possible ways that you

2:05 ↗ could analyze this issue we're just

2:08 ↗ hoping that this is the initial

2:10 ↗ conversation where you get dialogue

2:13 ↗ going generate some questions for us

2:15 ↗ that we can help answer and

2:18 ↗ also help us understand how you might

2:21 ↗ want to continue the conversation so is

2:24 ↗ there a preferred path in terms of

2:27 ↗ discussing this with council members so

2:30 ↗ committee structure keeping it with the

2:32 ↗ whole body etc so with that I'll throw

2:37 ↗ it over to Cory Cory Walters the

2:39 ↗ executive director of the squad food and

2:41 ↗ clothing bank welcome hi well good

2:48 ↗ evening everyone I'm Cory Walters

2:50 ↗ executive director of the Issaquah food

2:52 ↗ and clothing bank and thank you for the

2:55 ↗ opportunity to share more about our

2:57 ↗ organization and our current facility

2:59 ↗ needs before I get started I'd like to

3:01 ↗ introduce my team that is here today we

3:04 ↗ have Alana chute

3:05 ↗ she's our project manager from OAC and

3:08 ↗ Steve Johnson he's from OAC Tom Ehlers

3:11 ↗ is our board chair and Jim Merrill is

3:15 ↗ our facility committee chair and John

3:18 ↗ Rittenhouse is a food bank special manna

3:20 ↗ special project manager so as Emily said

3:25 ↗ we're hoping to have a open dialogue so

3:27 ↗ interrupt me anytime ask questions

3:29 ↗ provide comments I would really

3:31 ↗ appreciate that if you haven't been down

3:34 ↗ to the food bank recently I'd encourage

3:35 ↗ you to come down for a tour I'd love to

3:38 ↗ show you around when we're open and the

3:42 ↗ facility is busy and active because you

3:44 ↗ really can get a good understanding for

3:46 ↗ what we do at the food bank but also for

3:49 ↗ what some of our constraints are when

3:51 ↗ you're down there seeing us in action

3:54 ↗ the mission of the Issaquah food and

3:56 ↗ clothing bank is to meet our community

3:59 ↗ members basic needs and help promote

4:01 ↗ self-sufficiency and I'm gonna share

4:18 ↗ okay I already did that so currently

4:26 ↗ we're in a city building at 179 first

4:29 ↗ Avenue South East and our building is

4:31 ↗ five thousand two hundred fifty square

4:33 ↗ feet and we believe that in order to

4:36 ↗ conduct our current services and to me

4:38 ↗ the growing community needs efficiently

4:42 ↗ and effectively and safely we need to

4:46 ↗ possibly triple our current space and

4:50 ↗ we're proposing that we replace our

4:52 ↗ existing building with a three-story

4:54 ↗ building on the same footprint and we're

4:59 ↗ asking the City Council today just to

5:02 ↗ hear our ideas and to consider some

5:06 ↗ different ways that we might be able to

5:08 ↗ work together to bring something really

5:10 ↗ special and super needed in our

5:12 ↗ community so tonight I'm going to share

5:14 ↗ a little bit more about who we are and

5:16 ↗ what we do

5:17 ↗ I'd like to identify what our current

5:19 ↗ needs are and what some opportunities

5:21 ↗ and for growth are for our organization

5:24 ↗ I'd like to explain what we would do if

5:26 ↗ we had an expanded facility and we're

5:29 ↗ gonna kind of share a little bit more

5:31 ↗ about how we landed on this particular

5:32 ↗ idea versus other ideas so to start with

5:37 ↗ who do we serve I don't want to assume

5:39 ↗ that everybody knows everything about

5:41 ↗ the food bank so some of this might be

5:43 ↗ repetitive to you but we serve the

5:45 ↗ entire is across school district and our

5:48 ↗ for our food bank alone just our food

5:51 ↗ bank services serves 100 families almost

5:55 ↗ every time that we're open during your

5:57 ↗ service hours that's about 1200

5:59 ↗ different individuals every week and

6:01 ↗ we're providing over four thousand

6:06 ↗ transactions a month and last year we

6:09 ↗ provided over fifty thousand bags of

6:11 ↗ groceries to our community members 30%

6:15 ↗ of the people we serve are senior

6:17 ↗ citizens and 30% of the people we serve

6:19 ↗ our children so we're serving our most

6:21 ↗ vulnerable populations at a higher

6:24 ↗ a lot of the people we serve are living

6:27 ↗ on fixed incomes in our community

6:29 ↗ although many of our households have one

6:32 ↗ or two incomes in their household a lot

6:36 ↗ of the people that we serve have

6:37 ↗ disabilities that is who you serve sorry

6:47 ↗ I missed that slide so there's a quad

6:52 ↗ and clothing bank I feel like we do a

6:53 ↗ great job bringing the community

6:55 ↗ together to serve people in need in a

6:58 ↗ variety of ways we have over 250

7:01 ↗ volunteers every week that provide 1800

7:05 ↗ volunteer hours a month for our

7:08 ↗ community and in our current building we

7:11 ↗ have a grocery store we have a grocery

7:15 ↗ to go program where we deliver food to

7:18 ↗ homebound citizens and to people who

7:21 ↗ have severe transportation barriers we

7:24 ↗ have a clothing bank we have a case

7:26 ↗ management program where we work

7:28 ↗ one-on-one with families and individuals

7:33 ↗ we help people get connected with

7:36 ↗ resources and referrals in our community

7:38 ↗ and work closely with partner agencies

7:40 ↗ and our case management program requires

7:42 ↗ private confidential space we have

7:48 ↗ several feeding programs for children

7:50 ↗ and we often have partner agencies in

7:54 ↗ our lobby providing extra resources and

7:57 ↗ services to the families who walk

7:59 ↗ through our doors

8:06 ↗ so the Issaquah food clothing bank has

8:09 ↗ been working for a long time on trying

8:11 ↗ to identify what the true needs are in

8:13 ↗ our community and before I dive into

8:16 ↗ that too deeply I want to explain what

8:19 ↗ food insecurity means so that we're all

8:21 ↗ using the same definition food

8:23 ↗ insecurity is when a household has to

8:26 ↗ make trade-offs on important basic needs

8:29 ↗ such as housing and medical bills for

8:33 ↗ versus purchasing nutritional

8:36 ↗ adequate foods for their home so this

8:40 ↗ model here represents what we believe to

8:43 ↗ be our current landscape so the orange

8:47 ↗ outer circle is there is a quad school

8:50 ↗ district the population of the Issaquah

8:52 ↗ school district and the blue circle our

8:56 ↗ current food bank clients so last year

9:00 ↗ that's the number of people we serve

9:01 ↗ just in our food bank that doesn't

9:03 ↗ include any clothing bank clients or any

9:05 ↗ special programs the yellow circle is

9:08 ↗ the number of people in our community

9:10 ↗ living below the poverty line and the

9:13 ↗ gray circle represents a number of

9:16 ↗ people living below the poverty are not

9:18 ↗ living below the poverty line but may

9:21 ↗ not have enough resources in their

9:23 ↗ household to keep them from being food

9:26 ↗ insecure it's not me is that pretty

9:31 ↗ clear so our goal at the food bank is to

9:34 ↗ grow that blue circle so that it expands

9:37 ↗ into the gray circle so anybody in our

9:39 ↗ community who may have needs that we're

9:42 ↗ able to step in and help them before

9:44 ↗ they get into a situation that is

9:46 ↗ critical or kind of starts to spiral out

9:50 ↗ of control and a hundred we're currently

9:54 ↗ at 100% capacity and as you can see

9:56 ↗ we're only serving one out of five

9:59 ↗ people in need in our service area so

10:02 ↗ our concern is what's going to happen in

10:04 ↗ our community as the population grows

10:06 ↗ once again what is this going to look

10:08 ↗ like when we're only because of our

10:10 ↗ space constraints we're only able to

10:12 ↗ serve one out of six or one eight out of

10:14 ↗ the individuals in need so the number of

10:18 ↗ people that we serve and the number of

10:21 ↗ people that need services directly

10:24 ↗ impact our space needs and our

10:27 ↗ operational needs I have a question yeah

10:31 ↗ how has though how have those numbers in

10:34 ↗ terms of the minimum of obtainable

10:36 ↗ service marketed maximum attainable

10:38 ↗ service market how have those changed

10:40 ↗ over time and as a fraction of the of

10:44 ↗ the population and what does that tell

10:46 ↗ us about how the future looks

10:48 ↗ right what I can say is we used Issaquah

10:52 ↗ community needs assessment and Sammamish

10:54 ↗ community needs assessment and feeding

10:57 ↗ America data and u.s. census data to

11:00 ↗ kind of we kind of melded all of those

11:03 ↗ pieces together to come up with this

11:05 ↗ chart and this is new so we don't have

11:09 ↗ this chart from years in the past but

11:11 ↗ what I can say is that is a clock

11:12 ↗ community needs assessment has stated

11:14 ↗ that you know the area median income

11:21 ↗ let's see peep that the cost of housing

11:25 ↗ has really priced people out of our

11:28 ↗ community so this the gray circle has

11:31 ↗ really grown in recent years based on

11:33 ↗ the affordability of our community and

11:35 ↗ if I think back the housing rental rates

11:40 ↗ in the in the case in the Issaquah

11:42 ↗ community needs assessment stated that

11:44 ↗ housing rates have like gone up like two

11:47 ↗ hundred dollars a month or something

11:48 ↗ three hundred dollars a month in the

11:50 ↗ last just couple of years so small

11:52 ↗ changes in housing costs are what put

11:55 ↗ people in need of additional services so

12:00 ↗ and I can get totally we can I can pull

12:03 ↗ up those specifics but I think it's

12:05 ↗ definitely in the last three years has

12:07 ↗ gotten harder and harder for people in

12:09 ↗ our community okay I was just wondering

12:13 ↗ if it's if the relative need has has

12:15 ↗ been pretty constant or it's been

12:17 ↗ getting a little better has been getting

12:19 ↗ a little bit worse you know as the

12:21 ↗ population has grown I think it's I

12:24 ↗ think the need has gotten a little bit

12:25 ↗ worse so and I'll talk a little bit more

12:27 ↗ about that and are specific with some

12:29 ↗ specific programs so the food bank has

12:32 ↗ seen a slow increase in our food bank

12:34 ↗ service numbers but where we've really

12:37 ↗ seen a huge increases in our special

12:39 ↗ programs and we've developed special

12:43 ↗ programs over time because we recognize

12:46 ↗ it's hard for families and individuals

12:48 ↗ to come into our food bank to access

12:50 ↗ services for a variety of reasons pride

12:53 ↗ accessibility schedule all kinds of

12:57 ↗ things so we've started developing

12:58 ↗ programs where we're actually going out

13:00 ↗ into the community

13:02 ↗ and I'll show definitely some more about

13:05 ↗ that and the in the neck in a future

13:07 ↗ slide here Thanks

13:08 ↗ yeah any other questions so for the sake

13:19 ↗ of time this slide is kind of similar

13:22 ↗ than what we were just talking about I'm

13:23 ↗ going to kind of skip through this but I

13:25 ↗ wanted to let you know since it was in

13:27 ↗ your packets that there's an air on the

13:29 ↗ slide the three arrows actually should

13:31 ↗ be pointing just to the three bottom

13:33 ↗ levels and not to high food security

13:37 ↗ basically this graph is reiterating that

13:40 ↗ families living on 60 percent of the

13:42 ↗ area median income could be considered

13:45 ↗ marginally food insecure low food

13:48 ↗ insecure or very low insecure so this is

13:58 ↗ where I'll kind of answer your question

13:59 ↗ Tula our current programs have grown in

14:02 ↗ such high demand that they are severely

14:05 ↗ taxing our current operational needs and

14:07 ↗ making it really really difficult in our

14:10 ↗ current building to do our work

14:11 ↗ efficiently and sometimes safely we've

14:15 ↗ worked hard over the past few years to

14:17 ↗ optimize our space as creatively as

14:21 ↗ possible and we feel like we've

14:22 ↗ exhausted every last inch of our

14:25 ↗ building in recent months we've moved to

14:28 ↗ an off-site warehouse we've moved some

14:31 ↗ of our food and some of our warehouse

14:33 ↗ off-site so it's given us a little bit

14:35 ↗ more wiggle room in our current building

14:37 ↗ but now we're challenged having

14:39 ↗ operations in two different sites which

14:43 ↗ is not not easy right the quick question

14:47 ↗ for you

14:48 ↗ what is the number on top what does that

14:50 ↗ represent is that number of people

14:51 ↗ served number of transactions it's a

14:53 ↗ number of transactions so on a daily

14:55 ↗ basis let's see so this graph represents

15:00 ↗ our additional programs outside of our

15:02 ↗ food and clothing bank in programs that

15:05 ↗ we started in 2013 and what this is

15:10 ↗ telling us I'm sorry let me get scroll

15:13 ↗ down here

15:14 ↗ is that in 2013 we provided 2106 61

15:22 ↗ transactions in that in that year and in

15:26 ↗ 2017 we provided nine thousand five

15:29 ↗ hundred and thirty transactions and

15:31 ↗ that's a three hundred and forty-one

15:34 ↗ percent growth in just a four year

15:37 ↗ period of time

15:38 ↗ so although the daily operations of the

15:42 ↗ food bank isn't spiking at that same

15:44 ↗ rate our special program numbers

15:46 ↗ definitely are and all of these programs

15:48 ↗ that we've created during this time

15:50 ↗ period which includes summer lunch tools

15:53 ↗ for school holiday gift barn lunch for

15:56 ↗ the break power packs dental vans care

15:59 ↗ kits and groceries to go all require

16:03 ↗ space for bringing in product for

16:06 ↗ sorting and organizing product and then

16:09 ↗ redistributing product so I know these

16:14 ↗ just look like programs but if you can

16:16 ↗ think of this as like pallets of food at

16:20 ↗ any one given point in time

16:23 ↗ does that help that's great thank you

16:26 ↗ yeah so to be a little bit more specific

16:34 ↗ let's talk about our groceries to go

16:36 ↗ program this is one of our highly

16:38 ↗ effective like beneficial community

16:40 ↗ programs it also is requiring a lot of

16:43 ↗ space and you can think of groceries to

16:46 ↗ go as an Amazon fresh type program or a

16:49 ↗ Safeway grocery delivery program for

16:52 ↗ clients only all the products that you

16:54 ↗ receive are free from the food bank our

16:57 ↗ clients put in a weekly order and they

17:00 ↗ order items that they need and that they

17:02 ↗ will utilize in their households and

17:05 ↗ then we have volunteer shoppers who put

17:07 ↗ those groceries together on Monday

17:09 ↗ Tuesdays and Thursdays and then on

17:13 ↗ Tuesday Wednesday and Fridays we have a

17:15 ↗ whole separate group of volunteers that

17:17 ↗ deliver those groceries to people's

17:20 ↗ households we're currently delivering to

17:22 ↗ 70 households every single week

17:26 ↗ and groceries can include canned goods

17:28 ↗ dairy products produce and freezer items

17:32 ↗ such as meat most families who are

17:35 ↗ involved with this program or benefit

17:37 ↗ from this program are senior citizens or

17:39 ↗ people who have disabilities or families

17:42 ↗ with children who have severe

17:44 ↗ transportation barriers for those annual

17:47 ↗ is that is the x-axis years and if so

17:50 ↗ that looks like there's a big it's kind

17:52 ↗ of cut off there isn't it yes so the

17:55 ↗ blue is the hits are historical numbers

17:57 ↗ and we've grown this program an average

18:00 ↗ of 15% every year since we started it

18:03 ↗ and then yellow is just kind of what it

18:06 ↗ would look we project that this program

18:08 ↗ will continue growing 15% every year if

18:11 ↗ we had more facility space we definitely

18:15 ↗ think that there's even more of a need

18:16 ↗ now do you know why you had a untypical

18:20 ↗ growth last year it looks like it almost

18:22 ↗ doubled in one year I think a couple

18:29 ↗ things we we've accessed some more fund

18:33 ↗ additional funding sources so all of our

18:34 ↗ programs we've had an uptick in healthy

18:37 ↗ food options so I think that's attracted

18:41 ↗ a lot more people and we've done a

18:43 ↗ little bit more advertising with the

18:45 ↗ partners that we're working with I also

18:47 ↗ think that the need is growing

18:49 ↗ currently we we're kind of plateaued at

18:54 ↗ serving 70 households a week because our

18:56 ↗ space just really won't allow us to

19:00 ↗ support anymore growth and so I'll tell

19:03 ↗ you a little bit more about that so this

19:07 ↗ slide is to help paint the picture of

19:10 ↗ like what is 70 deliveries a week look

19:13 ↗ like for every family we deliver

19:19 ↗ groceries to we assume there's an

19:21 ↗ average of three grocery bags that go to

19:23 ↗ that household so two of those grocery

19:26 ↗ bags would be dry goods

19:28 ↗ so rice canned goods cereal stuff like

19:32 ↗ that and one of those grocery bags would

19:34 ↗ be can considered cold goods or a

19:37 ↗ refrigerated item

19:38 ↗ including freezer items so so on every

19:44 ↗ if on a typical delivery day we need a

19:47 ↗ spot for 46 dry goods and 23

19:51 ↗ refrigerator goods so if you can picture

19:54 ↗ your refrigerator at home or picture a

19:57 ↗ refrigerator at the grocery store 23

20:00 ↗ bags of groceries need to fit into that

20:03 ↗ refrigerator our refrigerator can fit

20:06 ↗ just that and that's all we can do and

20:08 ↗ we're doing that delivery three times a

20:11 ↗ week so additional storage is needed for

20:16 ↗ just sorting the food and then getting

20:19 ↗ the storing the food overnight and then

20:21 ↗ getting it out the very next day we're

20:25 ↗ trying to be a strategic as we can with

20:26 ↗ this program so that we can welcome more

20:28 ↗ individuals into it but they're just

20:31 ↗ small little fixes that we're currently

20:33 ↗ doing for right now this program needs a

20:36 ↗ significant amount more refrigerator

20:38 ↗ space that we just really don't have any

20:41 ↗ room in our current building to

20:43 ↗ accommodate the big walk-in refrigerator

20:45 ↗ and freezer that we have is full of

20:48 ↗ stuff for a day-to-day operation so this

20:50 ↗ requires additional refrigeration

20:52 ↗ outside of kind of typical daily

20:54 ↗ operations

21:02 ↗ another project program that is highly

21:05 ↗ successful and really needed in our

21:07 ↗ community is our summer lunch program

21:10 ↗ we've had a big jump in services in

21:13 ↗ summer lunch also because we started

21:17 ↗ being able to offer healthier food

21:19 ↗ options and Families really appreciate

21:21 ↗ that summer lunch is a program where we

21:24 ↗ distribute a week's worth of breakfast

21:26 ↗ lunch and snack items every single week

21:29 ↗ during the summer summer months when we

21:32 ↗ started this program back in 2011 we

21:35 ↗ averaged 75 distribution bags every

21:39 ↗ single week and in 2018 so this last

21:43 ↗ summer we averaged 300 bags every week

21:47 ↗ so we pretty easily could fit 75 bags

21:51 ↗ somewhere in the nooks and crannies of

21:53 ↗ our building in 2011 but 300 bags every

21:56 ↗ single week of the summer has been a

22:00 ↗ real stretch for us if you go into our

22:03 ↗ building on a Wednesday and see what the

22:06 ↗ space looks like it takes up all of our

22:07 ↗ shelves all of the floor in our program

22:10 ↗ room with two or three stacks of bags of

22:13 ↗ groceries on top of each other making it

22:16 ↗ really difficult to get any other work

22:18 ↗ done in that space so our current

22:23 ↗ operations as I said are expedience be

22:26 ↗ exceeding the space that we have as you

22:28 ↗ can see by this lovely food drive photo

22:30 ↗ that we have up here our building worked

22:34 ↗ when we had three employees a hundred

22:37 ↗ volunteers and brought in an average of

22:39 ↗ 60,000 pounds of food a month and all we

22:43 ↗ provided in our building was food and

22:45 ↗ clothing but our organization has been

22:49 ↗ reacting to the needs of our community

22:51 ↗ and stepping out and doing more than

22:52 ↗ just that and so today we have 10

22:56 ↗ employees we have 250 volunteers and we

23:00 ↗ bring in more than 85,000 pounds of

23:03 ↗ groceries donated groceries and food

23:05 ↗ every single month and we're providing

23:08 ↗ all those additional programs that I've

23:09 ↗ mentioned so given the growing need

23:14 ↗ if we stay as we are today with no

23:18 ↗ expansion that actually means that in

23:21 ↗ the future we'll be serving a smaller

23:23 ↗ percentage of the need than we have

23:26 ↗ right now and so as our population

23:29 ↗ increases the use of food bank services

23:32 ↗ is going to increase and the Issaquah

23:35 ↗ food and clothing bank has been working

23:37 ↗ on these space constraints for over

23:39 ↗ eight years this is a new conversation

23:42 ↗ amongst us and we feel like now is the

23:47 ↗ time to do something really different we

23:50 ↗ feel like we have a veteran staff we

23:55 ↗ have a board that a board of directors

23:57 ↗ that's super motivated and supportive we

24:00 ↗ have a really high degree of trust and a

24:04 ↗ good reputation in our community and we

24:08 ↗ feel like the need is pretty clear so

24:15 ↗ what would we do if we had expanded

24:17 ↗ space this is the exciting part we would

24:20 ↗ have a loading dock so we could get one

24:22 ↗ of our vehicles in a safe space

24:27 ↗ overnight and easy accessibility into

24:30 ↗ the building we would expand our

24:33 ↗ warehouse so that we could better manage

24:36 ↗ our inventory and food bank inventory is

24:40 ↗ very complicated as we rely heavily on

24:44 ↗ donations which change literally every

24:46 ↗ single day and to kind of help you

24:49 ↗ understand what that looks like we

24:51 ↗ distribute 400 boxes of cereal every

24:54 ↗ week if you think about how much space

24:57 ↗ that takes up and that definitely

24:58 ↗ doubles during the summer months because

25:00 ↗ kids love their cereal in the summer we

25:05 ↗ just have to manage like where that is

25:08 ↗ stored what's going to happen in three

25:10 ↗ weeks from now if we only have 50 boxes

25:13 ↗ right now how do we get that food into

25:15 ↗ the building how do we get it out to

25:16 ↗ people more space would help with that

25:19 ↗ as I've shared we definitely need more

25:21 ↗ refrigerator and freezer space our

25:24 ↗ clothing bank

25:26 ↗ is very small right now we just have a

25:30 ↗ small sorting room in a small space we

25:33 ↗ and we have no storage or inventory

25:36 ↗ space for clothing items so with a

25:38 ↗ bigger store we could easily double or

25:40 ↗ triple the output and offerings that we

25:43 ↗ give our community members we need

25:48 ↗ multiple private office spaces for case

25:51 ↗ management having people come in and

25:54 ↗ share their stories is very sensitive we

25:57 ↗ are one of the first places that people

25:59 ↗ come in to to access services and to

26:02 ↗ have a confidential quiet respectful

26:05 ↗ space for them to share their story is

26:07 ↗ really important right now we have one

26:09 ↗ case management office and it's in the

26:12 ↗ middle of the food bank and so people

26:14 ↗ have to if we're open they have to weave

26:16 ↗ through our food bank

26:17 ↗ hopefully not trip over a crate and have

26:20 ↗ a conversation with Rebecca we envision

26:26 ↗ having shared space with partners in our

26:29 ↗ community we think that as a community

26:32 ↗ we can increase efficiency and services

26:34 ↗ to food bank clients if they could

26:37 ↗ access more programs in one common space

26:41 ↗ and then like today we would like we

26:45 ↗ would envision ourselves using every

26:47 ↗ nook and cranny of a new building and we

26:50 ↗ would utilize a roof top for a garden so

26:54 ↗ that we can teach our clients how to

26:55 ↗ grow food on their own patios we'd also

26:58 ↗ grow food for our food bank so Elana is

27:04 ↗ gonna take it over from here but does

27:06 ↗ anybody have any questions or comments

27:09 ↗ for me I feel like it just shared a

27:11 ↗ whole lot of information that comes from

27:13 ↗ the hunt thanks on the second point the

27:17 ↗ expanded food warehouse in August I got

27:22 ↗ the opportunity to see the warehouse

27:24 ↗ space that was by the at work on June

27:27 ↗ yes and so I wondered if you could talk

27:29 ↗ about that and with the plans with that

27:31 ↗ how that fits into the expansion and

27:33 ↗ your plan for that space as well right

27:35 ↗ so that is a temporary fix

27:39 ↗ we felt like we wanted to start growing

27:42 ↗ our groceries to go program before we

27:45 ↗ had all of the perfect space in our

27:47 ↗ current building so we wanted to move

27:51 ↗ some stuff off-site so that we had just

27:53 ↗ some more room we've had so we're using

27:58 ↗ that warehouse space we think that it's

28:00 ↗ probably temporary a year or two years

28:02 ↗ so the vision is to have more of that

28:05 ↗ food back in one common building

28:07 ↗ eventually but we're using that as a

28:10 ↗ temporary fix because we just couldn't

28:13 ↗ do another holiday season in our current

28:16 ↗ building and we're hoping all of our

28:20 ↗ food donations go over there right now

28:21 ↗ we're shipping food back and forth as we

28:24 ↗ need it and it's it's been great it's

28:29 ↗ not solving all of our space challenges

28:32 ↗ though other questions right now okay

28:38 ↗ I'd like to hand it over to Atlanta

28:40 ↗ she's just going to share a little bit

28:41 ↗ more about the site visibility and some

28:44 ↗ construction

28:52 ↗ my name is Elena shoot I'm with OAC we

28:55 ↗ joined the team as a construction

28:58 ↗ management organization that is teamed

29:02 ↗ up with these great folks that are doing

29:04 ↗ all this great work and have a need and

29:06 ↗ we want to kind of look at what best

29:10 ↗ serves the need that they've identified

29:12 ↗ and so part of that was is the current

29:17 ↗ location the best space for the

29:19 ↗ expansion so over time and prior even to

29:23 ↗ always cease involvement there's been

29:26 ↗ we've looked at the team has looked at

29:29 ↗ other city-owned spaces as well as other

29:32 ↗ private public spaces and ultimately

29:35 ↗ keep coming back to the current location

29:39 ↗ for various reasons primarily

29:45 ↗ transportation and accessibility in

29:48 ↗ addition to community acceptance and so

29:52 ↗ their their current location is is

29:58 ↗ favorable from that from that

30:00 ↗ perspective and then as well as zoning

30:06 ↗ and in those sorts of needs that are

30:09 ↗ important in a development project so

30:12 ↗ we've worked really hard and we've got

30:14 ↗ we're serious about this we've worked

30:17 ↗ hard and taken the steps even to design

30:21 ↗ a building that would fit within the

30:24 ↗ space that we think is best in the

30:26 ↗ current location and and are happy I'm

30:30 ↗ happy to speak to that current design or

30:32 ↗ maybe that's best suited for another day

30:34 ↗ kind of whatever best fits your needs we

30:38 ↗ know that there's challenges whether at

30:40 ↗ the current site or a different location

30:43 ↗ and we're part of today is to start

30:46 ↗ identifying together what those

30:48 ↗ challenges are whether they be parking

30:51 ↗ which I know is a hot topic or we've

30:54 ↗ also talked internally just about you

30:59 ↗ know the surfaces and the

31:03 ↗ zoning as well different things that

31:06 ↗ we're going to have to work through in

31:09 ↗ any location but really focusing on the

31:12 ↗ current location is the best fit so we

31:20 ↗ talked a little bit about public transit

31:22 ↗ and community acceptance those are what

31:24 ↗ we as site selection have narrowed down

31:27 ↗ to the existing location and to address

31:32 ↗ a little bit your comment about the

31:33 ↗ warehouse space and how that work fits

31:35 ↗ in it may be that right now that's a

31:40 ↗ short-term solution that's required to

31:42 ↗ keep operating at the level that we are

31:44 ↗ there's a concern over the growing years

31:46 ↗ and the operation increases do we hang

31:50 ↗ on to that space and even into an

31:51 ↗ expansion is that is that a viable

31:54 ↗ option to keep that warehouse space

31:56 ↗ ideally we want to increase the flow and

32:00 ↗ food comes in and is an out faster so

32:02 ↗ that's less storage is required but

32:06 ↗ that's all part of this our our facility

32:10 ↗ committee is looking at the operations

32:12 ↗ and the how quickly we can serve growing

32:18 ↗ needs and insert more we've put together

32:24 ↗ I've put together a schedule and this is

32:26 ↗ less to kind of stunned folks with

32:31 ↗ specific months but more so to identify

32:37 ↗ what we're looking at in terms of

32:39 ↗ overall duration so this we're looking

32:45 ↗ at we're plugging in approximately nine

32:47 ↗ months of permitting for a project like

32:49 ↗ this in 14 months for a construction for

32:52 ↗ the current drawing set and this is only

32:54 ↗ to help identify that if we were to

32:57 ↗ start today which we know isn't the case

32:59 ↗ but if we were to start today work years

33:02 ↗ out from meeting the ever-growing needs

33:05 ↗ so we're just trying to help kind of put

33:07 ↗ a magnifier on that of wanting to we

33:11 ↗ understand that today is kind of the

33:12 ↗ first step of this process and working

33:14 ↗ together

33:15 ↗ how do we get to the and finish line so

33:25 ↗ I think the most important part to kind

33:27 ↗ of close with course and a great job of

33:28 ↗ introducing us introducing the need

33:31 ↗ having the conversation that has been

33:32 ↗ happening in the community for a long

33:34 ↗ time but kind of formalizing that plan

33:36 ↗ and this starts with and Emily

33:40 ↗ introduced it also at the beginning

33:43 ↗ we're looking to work with you on what

33:46 ↗ are the next steps we understand that

33:48 ↗ this is your property and the city's

33:50 ↗ property we're ready to we've already

33:56 ↗ started growing our project team we've

33:59 ↗ already started engaging campaign

34:01 ↗ capital campaign consultants there will

34:05 ↗ be a successful capital campaign that

34:08 ↗ will need to occur for the construction

34:10 ↗ to happen and you know we're advised we

34:15 ↗ can't do any of that until we have a

34:19 ↗ until we have a project and and so

34:22 ↗ identifying that we have a project is

34:25 ↗ identifying if the city just getting a

34:28 ↗ pull sign if if this location is

34:32 ↗ feasible from your perspective as the

34:35 ↗ property manager or the property owner I

34:37 ↗ should say and entering those kind of

34:41 ↗ lease agreement conversations and things

34:43 ↗ that need to happen before commitments

34:46 ↗ are made and and then we can engage

34:50 ↗ really start fine-tuning design and

34:52 ↗ engaging those sorts of teams so again

34:56 ↗ we're serious about this but we're also

34:58 ↗ sensitive to wanting to really have that

35:00 ↗ conversation and work through challenges

35:03 ↗ together so identifying some of these

35:06 ↗ next steps is you've you've heard the

35:09 ↗ need and so being prepared to answer

35:13 ↗ more questions about that create a

35:15 ↗ dialogue get feedback from you us to

35:20 ↗ kind of understand who we should start

35:21 ↗ flowing questions through

35:24 ↗ whether it's the council as a whole or

35:26 ↗ if their specific committees and not

35:30 ↗ necessarily looking for all the answers

35:31 ↗ today but these are some of the things

35:34 ↗ that that we're talking about and

35:36 ↗ wanting to bring to the forefront and I

35:42 ↗ I think we know there's a general

35:47 ↗ understanding of the need and so now

35:50 ↗ wanting to kind of move it to the next

35:52 ↗ level and looking to you guys for what

35:54 ↗ those next steps are council member

35:56 ↗ Ramos yeah getting some details but I

36:00 ↗ can give you some questions to think

36:01 ↗ little bit so we talked about a capital

36:04 ↗ campaign which you would need obviously

36:07 ↗ so what would size capital campaign and

36:10 ↗ how long do you think that would take if

36:11 ↗ you were going to pursue that so we have

36:16 ↗ some weeper we've consulted and thrown

36:19 ↗ out some rom pricing for the rough order

36:22 ↗ of magnitude pricing for the building as

36:24 ↗ designed hesitate a little bit to throw

36:27 ↗ dollars out there because we're working

36:32 ↗ on it but it's it's a large number we're

36:36 ↗ somewhere in the we're somewhere in the

36:40 ↗ ten million dollar range and Cory can

36:45 ↗ speak a little bit more to the

36:46 ↗ conversations that we've had with the

36:48 ↗ Ostara group who's the campaign

36:52 ↗ consultant group yeah as far as time to

36:55 ↗ get questionable so we we started

36:58 ↗ working with those star a fundraising

37:00 ↗ consulting firm but even before we

37:03 ↗ started working with Ostara

37:05 ↗ we knew we were heading in this

37:06 ↗ direction a year ago and hired a

37:09 ↗ development director to help us lay a

37:11 ↗ really good foundation for fundraising

37:13 ↗ for our organization o Stara and the

37:16 ↗ food bank will be going out this month

37:18 ↗ doing donor stakeholder interviews so

37:21 ↗ we're gonna get a better picture on what

37:24 ↗ our donor base thinks that the food bank

37:27 ↗ can raise do they think this is a good

37:29 ↗ project do they think that it's needed

37:33 ↗ then from the information we gather from

37:35 ↗ those stakeholder donor interviews we

37:38 ↗ should have a better idea on time frame

37:41 ↗ and this research will also include like

37:45 ↗ what grants we should apply for

37:47 ↗ definitely this is going to take a

37:49 ↗ couple years but we should know more for

37:53 ↗ sure and we can bring that information

37:54 ↗ back to you in November and once we have

37:57 ↗ a good report from from our deeper dive

38:00 ↗ in our analysis here thank you and I

38:03 ↗ would add to that that will be phased so

38:06 ↗ we don't need all the money upfront just

38:09 ↗ kick the project off there be phases

38:11 ↗ where get to a milestone to fund design

38:14 ↗ we get to a milestone to fund start a

38:16 ↗ construction etc so it's not all at once

38:18 ↗ it runs concurrently we're still working

38:21 ↗ on that scheduling in those durations

38:22 ↗ and what those milestones are

38:25 ↗ councilmember hunt

38:27 ↗ so in our memo there's a question

38:30 ↗ identified the first one what does the

38:32 ↗ current zoning allow in this location

38:33 ↗ I'm interested in that but I think more

38:36 ↗ specifically I'm interested in what do

38:39 ↗ you anticipate meeting as deviations

38:41 ↗ from the current zoning for this if you

38:43 ↗ if you do anticipate that and it sounded

38:46 ↗ like you have a design in mind with at

38:49 ↗ least some specifics we do so currently

38:54 ↗ we've got some we've got a height Jim's

38:57 ↗ it's correct me if pardon

39:05 ↗ well and that was just confirmed within

39:08 ↗ the last week or so through Emily we've

39:10 ↗ confirmed that initially we thought that

39:12 ↗ there was a height that the the proposed

39:17 ↗ construction would be taller than

39:19 ↗ allowed which is now okay which is part

39:23 ↗ of where we feel more comfortable in the

39:27 ↗ current space even with potential

39:30 ↗ changes to the old town area area yes

39:36 ↗ thank you yeah

39:39 ↗ outside of that yeah it's just the

39:46 ↗ parking and then we've got some

39:47 ↗ impermeable surfaces as well cuz

39:50 ↗ remember rumbles you just followed maybe

39:52 ↗ Emily you can talk on that I know

39:53 ↗ there's been some discussions and some

39:54 ↗ of the Committees of you know

39:56 ↗ limitations of two storey versus three

39:58 ↗ storey in Old Town and I haven't been up

40:00 ↗ on those conversations last week or so

40:02 ↗ so maybe you could address where those

40:04 ↗ are now because this is three storey and

40:06 ↗ I thought was a two storey area I

40:08 ↗ believe it's consistent with where that

40:10 ↗ sub area plan review is headed but well

40:15 ↗ we'll know more as they do a little more

40:18 ↗ pre design work in terms of exact number

40:21 ↗ of feet each of the stories would take

40:24 ↗ but it looks like it's where they're

40:27 ↗ headed is consistent with where sub area

40:30 ↗ plan will will land but of course it

40:32 ↗ hasn't been adopted yet come from over

40:36 ↗ array so in the interest of time you

40:37 ↗ don't even have to answer these

40:38 ↗ questions but these are ones to take

40:39 ↗ away and ponder first since the city

40:41 ↗ owns the land and the current building

40:43 ↗ and the food bank food and clothing bank

40:47 ↗ and your potential donors are gonna make

40:50 ↗ a submission a significant investment in

40:52 ↗ it how do we deal with the ownership of

40:54 ↗ that property and that structure that's

40:56 ↗ number one for you number two is what

41:00 ↗ happens to the top eration is during the

41:03 ↗ construction period so that we can still

41:06 ↗ continue to do the great work that you

41:07 ↗ guys do so that's number two number

41:10 ↗ three what's the liability to the city

41:12 ↗ since it's a city building and

41:14 ↗ land during the construction period and

41:16 ↗ then number four is given the timeline

41:19 ↗ that you laid out which has got a you

41:21 ↗ know best case were three years away and

41:23 ↗ there's no question that you have

41:24 ↗ significant need today is there another

41:27 ↗ way to move forward with to meet your

41:31 ↗ needs that doesn't involve a large

41:34 ↗ renovation of the current building and

41:36 ↗ other sites stuff to think about and all

41:45 ↗ questions we've started we've started

41:47 ↗ conversations about - so good to know

41:49 ↗ that we're asking the same things so and

41:54 ↗ I realized we don't want to go into

41:56 ↗ maybe probably don't want to go into

41:58 ↗ particular designs today but if the

42:00 ↗ current building is one story tall it's

42:02 ↗ about five thousand square feet

42:03 ↗ couldn't you just go with the current

42:06 ↗ footprint and go to three stories and

42:08 ↗ have get to 15,000 square feet that you

42:10 ↗ need okay okay somehow I thought that

42:15 ↗ there was talk of a larger footprint or

42:17 ↗ something like same footprint I mean a

42:21 ↗ full demo of the existing building for

42:24 ↗ structural reasons and different things

42:25 ↗ and then but the same footprint which is

42:28 ↗ essentially maximized three I'm sorry

42:31 ↗ three stories dot it okay other

42:34 ↗ questions right now

42:36 ↗ Tom's member Goodman is there any

42:39 ↗ thought to the food bank owning that

42:42 ↗ piece of land or is that one of it yet

42:46 ↗ so I think we're open to having a

42:48 ↗ conversation with the city yes yeah now

42:52 ↗ is there that one parcel with building

42:56 ↗ on the same parcel shared by another

42:58 ↗ organization

42:59 ↗ yeah the Historical Society owns the

43:02 ↗ building adjacent separate parcel to

43:06 ↗ separate parcel okay

43:10 ↗ other questions looks like we're set

43:15 ↗ from the question the same point I can't

43:17 ↗ uh City Administrator moon did you have

43:20 ↗ something that I'm just wondering if

43:22 ↗ there are any comments tonight about

43:24 ↗ desired next step sure so I'll I'll ask

43:29 ↗ since we have both the chair and Landon

43:31 ↗ Shore and services and safety all right

43:33 ↗ we're fortunate enough to have both of

43:34 ↗ them here is this something that we want

43:37 ↗ to have come back to full council or is

43:40 ↗ this something that we think should come

43:41 ↗ back to one of the committee's did you

43:42 ↗ on and I'll ask councilmember Goodman

43:45 ↗ first I would I think I would prefer

43:52 ↗ well council we kept in the loop for a

43:54 ↗ little bit at a point where it seems

43:58 ↗ like it would make more sense to go just

43:59 ↗ to a committee I don't mean just to a

44:01 ↗ committee but with three members of the

44:03 ↗ council it seems like a big not a big

44:06 ↗ topic so if I'm hearing right you'd

44:08 ↗ rather have something a firmer proposal

44:11 ↗ plan draft plan before sending it out to

44:15 ↗ committee and that the next time he came

44:17 ↗ back could come back to full Council is

44:19 ↗ that am i hearing that right or a work

44:21 ↗ session oh sorry yeah but before we send

44:25 ↗ it off to a committee of three I think I

44:27 ↗ think we owe it to the folks involved to

44:29 ↗ let them you know talk about bringing

44:31 ↗ the rest of the council members along so

44:33 ↗ that it doesn't go to committee before

44:34 ↗ it's more formed or vetted so there are

44:39 ↗ no surprises got it or you know the

44:43 ↗ bigger chances there won't be any big

44:45 ↗ surprises if it comes back to the full

44:47 ↗ council which would then be the majority

44:50 ↗ I'll ask councilman bere who might be an

44:54 ↗ alternate potential path on this one if

44:56 ↗ he agrees with that I'm okay it sounds

44:59 ↗ to me like we're we still got a ton of

45:01 ↗ work to do to get to the path forward

45:04 ↗ and the only reason I'm gonna you

45:08 ↗ actually come up with a third

45:09 ↗ alternative another reason I would have

45:11 ↗ a some sub subgroup deal with it so we

45:14 ↗ can move more quickly

45:15 ↗ have more conversation so a group of

45:19 ↗ three or two members of the council it

45:22 ↗ doesn't even have to be a committee but

45:24 ↗ it can be an ad-hoc group who can can

45:26 ↗ work with the the food and clothing bank

45:29 ↗ to really understand the problem and

45:30 ↗ explore these things to me is a much

45:33 ↗ more nimble approach than working within

45:36 ↗ our current committee structure all

45:39 ↗ right well I think what well I

45:43 ↗ that's ponder this little further comes

45:47 ↗ with members hunter Ramos thoughts I

45:53 ↗ think okay

45:55 ↗ I think so usually we we do go into a

46:00 ↗ lot of detail discussion and the

46:02 ↗ committee and I don't know at this point

46:04 ↗ it sounds like it's a bit earlier stage

46:09 ↗ and so I think I'm I would be

46:15 ↗ comfortable keeping it at the at the

46:19 ↗ full council committee level or a full

46:21 ↗ council level until it has more detail

46:26 ↗ for us to discuss in the coming yes I

46:29 ↗ agree with customer Goodman that I think

46:32 ↗ until we get kind of conceptual

46:33 ↗ agreement that we all could involvement

46:37 ↗ this is a lot of a lot of stuff to go do

46:38 ↗ yet and I think there's a lot of support

46:41 ↗ but there are a lot of things to work

46:44 ↗ out so okay it'd be a little bit better

46:46 ↗ way but I guess I'm okay if council

46:49 ↗ member Ray had stomped his feet and said

46:51 ↗ no it must come to services then I then

46:53 ↗ I would be willing to entertain that but

46:55 ↗ in the absence of that I think

46:56 ↗ councilmember Goodman suggestion to keep

46:58 ↗ it at the full seven for now until we

47:00 ↗ have something a little bit more

47:02 ↗ specific in mind is is sounds like the

47:05 ↗ will of the body

47:06 ↗ any questions city administrator or is

47:10 ↗ there anything else you're looking from

47:11 ↗ us for this evening on this subject no I

47:15 ↗ think staff will huddle with food bank

47:18 ↗ partners and and talk through sort of

47:21 ↗ what information we might be able to

47:23 ↗ package up

47:23 ↗ bring back to you and then we'll need to

47:25 ↗ discuss kind of a timeline for doing

47:27 ↗ that given that next a couple of months

47:30 ↗ are pretty burdened with budget

47:32 ↗ conversations so we may get creative

47:35 ↗ about how we start to share information

47:39 ↗ all right anything else from counsel

47:41 ↗ before we move on to the next ID oh I'm

47:44 ↗ so thank you very much

47:46 ↗ I want to offer public comment if

47:48 ↗ anybody wants three minutes to speak to

47:50 ↗ us on the subject before we move on it

47:52 ↗ would be welcome to take that it's nice

47:59 ↗ having several former council members in

48:01 ↗ the room tonight it really represents

48:03 ↗ some we loved telling me what do the

48:08 ↗ three story issue is not on that side

48:11 ↗ it's in the residential area we got a

48:13 ↗ nice big green in space between that

48:16 ↗ already known commercial restaurant

48:19 ↗ office area so I don't see any problem

48:22 ↗ with the three story at the present

48:24 ↗ location keeping the the process public

48:29 ↗ is good and I think build confidence and

48:33 ↗ support out there I think that can

48:35 ↗ happen especially given that location

48:38 ↗ and you know it's seems to work a little

48:43 ↗ concerned about the expansion of

48:44 ↗ groceries to go my wife already spends

48:46 ↗ too much time getting the books ready

48:48 ↗ for that and tripling that it's gonna be

48:50 ↗ quite a challenge we'll work it out

48:53 ↗ thank you so much for your comments

48:55 ↗ there anyone else from the public

48:57 ↗ wishing to speak tonight anyone else all

49:01 ↗ right we'll move on thank you again this

49:05 ↗ week with food and clothing bank for

49:07 ↗ joining us this evening

49:09 ↗ we will move to id0 349 Eastside fire

49:13 ↗ and rescue budget overview with Jeff

49:15 ↗ Clark chief of Eastside Fire & Rescue

49:17 ↗ chief thank you thank you I'll get this

49:28 ↗ set up and then all right can you hear

49:44 ↗ me okay mm-hmm all right first of all

49:46 ↗ thank you for the invitation to come and

49:48 ↗ speak with you I'm excited to have this

49:51 ↗ conversation and present the proposed

49:53 ↗ our first proposed two-year budget to

49:55 ↗ you from East Side as you know last year

49:58 ↗ we set in part of our strategic plan to

50:00 ↗ set a two-year budget cycle so we've

50:03 ↗ been successful to date and actually on

50:05 ↗ Thursday night re4 board as a whole will

50:07 ↗ be considering the budget what I

50:09 ↗ explained in the memo that I sent out

50:11 ↗ with your packet what you have in front

50:13 ↗ of you is a conglomeration a summary of

50:15 ↗ a lot of the presentations we gave you

50:17 ↗ do not have everything I'll be happy to

50:19 ↗ answer any questions you have though as

50:21 ↗ we go through the process here so first

50:23 ↗ of all I pulled out the compare of

50:25 ↗ comparisons let's see which screen is it

50:27 ↗ this one okay I pulled out the

50:30 ↗ comparisons that applied it to Issaquah

50:32 ↗ so first this is a something we do every

50:35 ↗ year now we compare to our the

50:40 ↗ comparable areas in King County Sonoma

50:43 ↗ Snohomish and Pierce County how we're

50:46 ↗ doing as an agency and it's very

50:47 ↗ difficult to compare apples to apples

50:49 ↗ what we're looking at is strictly

50:51 ↗ operating budget contributions okay for

50:53 ↗ this set of slides and as you can see

50:55 ↗ when you look at other types of regional

51:00 ↗ consortiums okay they're either RFA's

51:02 ↗ fire districts contract cities or in our

51:05 ↗ case the only ila form work from an a/v

51:09 ↗ perspective we're doing good from cost

51:13 ↗ per capita in order to break down AV is

51:14 ↗ one measure and if you're in a high

51:16 ↗ value area like we tend to be assessed

51:18 ↗ valuation so I'm sorry coming

51:21 ↗ from Arizona a V was never on the radar

51:24 ↗ we didn't look at thing when I got up

51:25 ↗ here to Washington realized everything

51:27 ↗ from a tax perspective is based on a

51:29 ↗ suspects Oh quickly became everytime I

51:32 ↗ met a new chief from an RFA or something

51:33 ↗ he said Oh what's your AV what's your

51:35 ↗ you know and I I had to become a quick

51:37 ↗ study on what that means so if we were

51:39 ↗ an RFA or some form like that are

51:40 ↗ equivalent right now would be 78 cents a

51:43 ↗ baby to operate on the operating budget

51:46 ↗ compared to snow one which is the most

51:48 ↗ expensive which is two dollars and sixty

51:49 ↗ cents and but I just want to mention in

51:51 ↗ case anybody at home might be panicking

51:53 ↗ yes that's per thousand assessed that is

51:56 ↗ per thousand you're correct sir and and

51:59 ↗ what I was saying before when comparison

52:01 ↗ I don't like just using AV because AV if

52:05 ↗ you're in a higher AV area where you're

52:07 ↗ assessed valuation is higher it looks

52:09 ↗ really good but it doesn't mean the

52:11 ↗ dollar are the dollars any better which

52:12 ↗ is really hard to tell so that's why we

52:14 ↗ look at the next one which is cost per

52:16 ↗ capita so per citizen living in our

52:19 ↗ service area what are we paying when you

52:22 ↗ translate that operating dollars in AV

52:24 ↗ to a cost per capita and you can see the

52:26 ↗ comparison here the one thing I'll note

52:28 ↗ you'll notice on a couple of these

52:29 ↗ metrics this South King actually comes

52:31 ↗ out a little bit better than a South

52:32 ↗ King is the Federal Way area way down

52:34 ↗ south it's a department is probably

52:38 ↗ about the size of ours maybe a little

52:40 ↗ bigger in a higher volume area and there

52:43 ↗ there AV tends to be a little bit lower

52:45 ↗ there but they got hit tremendously hard

52:48 ↗ in 2009 with the crash that occurred

52:51 ↗ they did layoffs and they're in the

52:53 ↗ process of hiring more people there

52:55 ↗ their fleet is not fully funded their

52:57 ↗ capital plan is not fully funded we're

52:59 ↗ we're fully funded on both so but just

53:02 ↗ just you'll know there is a difference

53:04 ↗ in demographics when we look at it this

53:06 ↗ is an important metric to our board one

53:08 ↗ of the marching orders that I received

53:09 ↗ when I first walked through the door was

53:11 ↗ that we be as efficient as possible and

53:12 ↗ when it comes to full-time employees

53:13 ↗ equivalent employees that we keep things

53:16 ↗ as minimal as possible moving forward

53:18 ↗ and you'll see we're staying the same

53:19 ↗ 106 1.06 per thousand is is exactly

53:24 ↗ where we were last year is where we are

53:26 ↗ this year and with the with the budget

53:28 ↗ that we're proposing

53:29 ↗ we're staying the same and then if

53:34 ↗ in zone 1 now zone 1 the fire service is

53:36 ↗ broken into up into three zones in King

53:38 ↗ County zone one is everything that's

53:41 ↗ basically north of i90 and east of

53:44 ↗ Seattle ok so we took those cities and

53:47 ↗ plugged in e4 on the same metrics that

53:49 ↗ we showed and then I believe my next

53:51 ↗ slide breaks it down into our partner

53:52 ↗ cities which are Issaquah Sammamish and

53:54 ↗ North Bend breaks it down so he looks at

53:57 ↗ your operating contributions when it

53:59 ↗ comes to a V compared to all of the

54:00 ↗ other cities in our zone and our zone

54:03 ↗ from my from a contribution standpoint

54:06 ↗ is gonna be very similar the Avs are

54:07 ↗ gonna be closer to each other than when

54:09 ↗ we compare ourselves to zone 3 which is

54:10 ↗ south county so it's it's a more

54:13 ↗ equivalent view of comparing the

54:15 ↗ services we provide on the operating

54:17 ↗ side same thing with FTE per population

54:21 ↗ you'll see that we as efer leads the

54:24 ↗ zone this is a FTE is not practical to

54:27 ↗ break down by our partner cities it

54:30 ↗ needs to stay at the organizational

54:32 ↗ level and then when you look at our cost

54:35 ↗ per capita you can see across the board

54:37 ↗ and I'll let you read that same thing

54:42 ↗ with cost per capita when you look at

54:43 ↗ our three partners three of our five

54:46 ↗ partners yes sir so and yet I get

54:49 ↗ there's some differences any thoughts on

54:52 ↗ why we're fifty percent higher per

54:55 ↗ capita than Sammamish the the biggest

54:58 ↗ reason is you're around thirty to thirty

55:00 ↗ three thousand people and they're around

55:01 ↗ sixty two thousand people you have a

55:04 ↗ much higher call volume here the

55:06 ↗ demographics in this city compared to

55:08 ↗ Sammamish oh sure just don't match up

55:10 ↗ and and they they can serve as sixty two

55:12 ↗ thousand people for some reason with

55:14 ↗ fewer resources than what it takes to

55:16 ↗ service Issaquah

55:17 ↗ I've spoken Sammamish a number of times

55:19 ↗ on that so it's a strange anomaly for

55:21 ↗ sixty two thousand people to generate as

55:23 ↗ little as it does from around the

55:25 ↗ country but that's all I can answer for

55:27 ↗ you got it all right thank you you bet

55:30 ↗ oops skipped one there all right and

55:33 ↗ then and this is just a quick a summary

55:36 ↗ as we could do we started this one last

55:37 ↗ year this simply looks at other three

55:39 ↗ station comparable cities or

55:42 ↗ jurisdictions within our zone within

55:44 ↗ zone one and what they pay for their

55:47 ↗ operating budget only versus what what

55:50 ↗ is Qantas managed right now this is all

55:51 ↗ 2018 we wanted to compare apples to

55:53 ↗ apples so this is our current budget

55:55 ↗ this does not include what we're

55:57 ↗ proposing because we don't know what

55:58 ↗ everyone else is proposing as far as

56:00 ↗ moving forward either but well you'll

56:02 ↗ get those numbers next year obviously

56:04 ↗ and then this this was something we

56:08 ↗ started last year as well this is

56:09 ↗ comparison comparing our our annual

56:13 ↗ average increase to our budget our

56:16 ↗ operating budget compared to what the

56:18 ↗ city's looking at your city's comparable

56:21 ↗ budget increase on operating side what

56:23 ↗ that is amortized over now this is

56:25 ↗ looking at operating budget on the on

56:27 ↗ the books and do the three cities that's

56:30 ↗ over six years I don't know what your

56:32 ↗ proposed stuff is for this year this

56:34 ↗ includes the two years that we're

56:35 ↗ looking at for cement for yfir so this

56:37 ↗ is over eight years for this so I saw

56:39 ↗ some quizzical looks we would average

56:42 ↗ six percent annual growth and our

56:45 ↗ ratings expenditures over eight years

56:48 ↗ each of the last eight years so

56:50 ↗ technically for you guys it's over six

56:52 ↗ because the last two years of this

56:54 ↗ includes 19 and 20 because I have 19 and

56:56 ↗ 20 data for yfir okay but the next slide

57:00 ↗ let's see what I have this is what I

57:01 ↗ have for each of you when we went over

57:04 ↗ this last year we had the city managers

57:06 ↗ in the city managers and our budget

57:09 ↗ folks in Issaquah you would add your

57:10 ↗ budget director in there last year we

57:12 ↗ showed this slide and explain how how we

57:14 ↗ got to this all we did was open up your

57:16 ↗ operating budget grab the operating

57:18 ↗ number and we took out some if there's

57:21 ↗ capital or if there's a transfer in of

57:24 ↗ funds we took that out and just looked

57:26 ↗ at just year-over-year your operating

57:28 ↗ piece okay and here's what we have and

57:30 ↗ we I did not have to update these

57:33 ↗ numbers for this year because 19 and 20

57:34 ↗ are not published yet so these are this

57:36 ↗ is still for you it's the same numbers I

57:39 ↗ presented last year all right and

57:41 ↗ obviously if there's a if there's a

57:43 ↗ change in any of this we'll gladly

57:45 ↗ change it but it prompted a lot of

57:47 ↗ conversation which was at what it was

57:48 ↗ meant to do in order to compare coming

57:51 ↗ in from outside I wanted to get an idea

57:53 ↗ of what your operating cost increase

57:55 ↗ look like and this has to do with where

57:57 ↗ you

57:58 ↗ basa fight in your budget at the end so

58:00 ↗ I think I mean I think one has to be

58:02 ↗ careful with this because yes as I think

58:03 ↗ about it you know we've continued like

58:06 ↗ as a city it's a quota that's grown

58:08 ↗ deputy rapidly over that same time frame

58:10 ↗ huh

58:11 ↗ whereas I don't I mean I don't know as a

58:14 ↗ whole if efer has grown you know if you

58:17 ↗ were to if you were to put this on a per

58:19 ↗ capita might it might not look so stark

58:22 ↗ because you might end and this was not

58:28 ↗ intended to look stark I mean I

58:29 ↗ completely understand your perspective

58:31 ↗ this was intended if I'm if I'm asking

58:34 ↗ for 3.6 percent and all three of the

58:36 ↗ cities were down at one and a half and

58:37 ↗ two percent I would be doing an internal

58:39 ↗ check saying we're asking for way too

58:41 ↗ much all right when we're at 3.6 percent

58:44 ↗ and I see that that our partner cities

58:46 ↗ are in this this range it gives me a

58:48 ↗ barometer that okay I'm not outside of

58:50 ↗ the ballpark this is how we started it

58:52 ↗ last year yeah I mean the point should

58:53 ↗ almost be like smear off the specific

58:55 ↗ numbers for a second the point is that

58:57 ↗ you're asking for less than any of the

58:59 ↗ cities and yes which just means that

59:01 ↗ we're in actually even even easier than

59:03 ↗ that the point is is that for as the

59:05 ↗ administrator I'm just not asking for

59:07 ↗ something that's out of the ballpark

59:09 ↗ okay and this is a comparison that we

59:10 ↗ showed to the fact and talk through

59:12 ↗ morons in more specifics last year this

59:14 ↗ year it really didn't we showed the

59:15 ↗ numbers but the conversation we didn't

59:17 ↗ dig into okay okay thanks good all right

59:22 ↗ so now getting into the specific budget

59:24 ↗ for this year and I'm really sorry that

59:26 ↗ the councilmember winter Stein isn't

59:28 ↗ here because last year he had some

59:30 ↗ questions that I still remember so I

59:31 ↗ might bring him up a couple times just

59:33 ↗ just to put it on the record but first

59:36 ↗ of all with revenue our revenue did

59:39 ↗ change a little bit in our projections

59:41 ↗ and I want to explain just a few key

59:43 ↗ points I'm not going to go over all of

59:44 ↗ these with you so first of all there's

59:46 ↗ no Kwame tribe the Snoqualmie tribe

59:48 ↗ we've actually had a service contract

59:49 ↗ with for a few years now and you'll see

59:52 ↗ in 2018 that the revenue from the tribe

59:54 ↗ is zeroed out as far as our budget was

59:56 ↗ concerned at the board level we did not

59:59 ↗ count that tribe money as revenue we did

1:00:01 ↗ bring it in and we did set it aside

1:00:04 ↗ essentially to fund the liability fund

1:00:06 ↗ and - which is a which is a fund that we

1:00:09 ↗ have one time

1:00:10 ↗ and that we have in the budget but it

1:00:12 ↗ would we decided not to count it as

1:00:14 ↗ revenue we basically treated as in fund

1:00:16 ↗ balance and make sure that our

1:00:17 ↗ contingency funds are funded before we

1:00:19 ↗ get into the budget here this year

1:00:21 ↗ however I'm recommending that that the

1:00:23 ↗ tribe money come back into and be

1:00:25 ↗ counted in our revenue on the budget

1:00:27 ↗ that's why you see an increase there the

1:00:29 ↗ reason that I'm recommending that is the

1:00:31 ↗ line GMT the third from the bottom of

1:00:33 ↗ the top there that is a new revenue line

1:00:35 ↗ there was a state law that passed a

1:00:37 ↗ couple of years well about two years ago

1:00:39 ↗ it's being implemented now this has to

1:00:43 ↗ do with Medicaid patients and transports

1:00:45 ↗ and it increases our revenue our ability

1:00:48 ↗ to collect revenue from the Medicaid

1:00:50 ↗ system we plug seventy-five thousand

1:00:53 ↗ dollars in we hired a consultant this

1:00:55 ↗ year we plug seventy-five thousand

1:00:56 ↗ dollars for the next two years we

1:00:58 ↗ actually think that has potential to be

1:00:59 ↗ as high as six hundred thousand dollars

1:01:01 ↗ until I see real money coming in though

1:01:03 ↗ I don't want to project that it's

1:01:04 ↗ actually coming in so that's six hundred

1:01:06 ↗ thousand dollars essentially we'll sit

1:01:08 ↗ we're not spending it it will sit in the

1:01:10 ↗ ending fund balance if we get to 19 and

1:01:13 ↗ we at the end of 19 we actually

1:01:14 ↗ collected six hundred thousand dollars

1:01:16 ↗ then it will first go to make sure our

1:01:19 ↗ contingencies are funded properly with

1:01:21 ↗ on this budget January 1st our

1:01:22 ↗ contingencies will be a hundred percent

1:01:24 ↗ funded in 19 at the end of 19 if there's

1:01:27 ↗ still 100 percent funded the board will

1:01:29 ↗ have a decision to make with what to do

1:01:31 ↗ with that revenue that's not a decision

1:01:32 ↗ that I or my staff are gonna make we

1:01:34 ↗ won't have the authority to spend it and

1:01:35 ↗ once we know what that real number is

1:01:37 ↗ we'll figure out how to budget properly

1:01:39 ↗ moving forward and most likely while the

1:01:41 ↗ table will do my recommendation is going

1:01:42 ↗ to be if we feel good with the $600,000

1:01:45 ↗ number will plug $600,000 in the

1:01:47 ↗ out-years and and just continue down

1:01:49 ↗ that path it also depends on how long

1:01:51 ↗ that funding stream is gonna last by

1:01:52 ↗ state law it's not going to change as

1:01:54 ↗ far as what we do but if the feds ever

1:01:56 ↗ change the way they fund this and we're

1:01:58 ↗ only I think we're the third state to

1:02:00 ↗ get into this if all 50 states get into

1:02:02 ↗ this funding stream I do not believe the

1:02:04 ↗ federal government's going to be able to

1:02:05 ↗ afford to keep paying it so we'll have

1:02:07 ↗ to we'll watch the subject but that's

1:02:08 ↗ why you see a difference there and then

1:02:11 ↗ there's a note at the bottom we're

1:02:12 ↗ currently conducting a pilot study

1:02:14 ↗ through March for reimbursement of motor

1:02:17 ↗ vehicle accidents we're not counting any

1:02:19 ↗ of that revenue because we have not

1:02:20 ↗ counted out as a

1:02:22 ↗ program we're just parking that again in

1:02:25 ↗ fun balance and that will be decided

1:02:27 ↗ once we decide what we're gonna do with

1:02:28 ↗ the program we're only expecting up to

1:02:31 ↗ maybe a quarter million two hundred

1:02:33 ↗ fifty thousand in that and I don't think

1:02:34 ↗ we're gonna hit that mark by March but

1:02:36 ↗ that's the number that's plugged right

1:02:37 ↗ now so outside of that the revenue

1:02:41 ↗ projections have stayed largely the same

1:02:43 ↗ as when and you'll note this was

1:02:45 ↗ presented on July fifth they have

1:02:47 ↗ changed some of the numbers have tweaked

1:02:48 ↗ a little bit but largely it stayed

1:02:49 ↗ pretty similar you have what happened

1:02:51 ↗ this tomorrow a.m. art that the a.m. art

1:02:55 ↗ contract for all of Zone one Eastside

1:02:59 ↗ manages a contract for AMR in that

1:03:01 ↗ contract there is a reimbursement rate

1:03:04 ↗ to the contract administrator and that

1:03:06 ↗ rug that right now that totals 207 they

1:03:08 ↗ have asked to renegotiate we started

1:03:11 ↗ renegotiating with them in March it's

1:03:13 ↗ very clear that that funding stream is

1:03:16 ↗ going to go away that 207 it has not yet

1:03:19 ↗ but by the end of 18 I fully expect it

1:03:22 ↗ to so we just wanted to plan for the

1:03:24 ↗ amenity that that goes away rather than

1:03:27 ↗ hope that we're gonna be able to save it

1:03:28 ↗ if we're able to save it in negotiations

1:03:30 ↗ I know we won't save all of it

1:03:31 ↗ well obviously we'll plug that number in

1:03:33 ↗ moving forward but we wanted a plan for

1:03:35 ↗ the worst-case scenario with that if

1:03:37 ↗ frankly we don't use AMR near as much as

1:03:39 ↗ we used to and after January I'm not

1:03:43 ↗ sure we're gonna be that I'll be

1:03:45 ↗ recommending that we're the lead agency

1:03:46 ↗ for negotiate in that contract either I

1:03:48 ↗ think we probably need to get out of the

1:03:50 ↗ way of that administration run our

1:03:51 ↗ business the way we're running it and

1:03:52 ↗ we'll let one of the other entities deal

1:03:54 ↗ with it any other questions on revenues

1:03:56 ↗ report so that's question it's on

1:03:59 ↗ because I've never been on the eve

1:04:01 ↗ report so how how do you do it like how

1:04:04 ↗ do you keep I mean these numbers are we

1:04:07 ↗ tell a really strong story in terms of

1:04:09 ↗ sort of efficiency of your delivery

1:04:12 ↗ model like why is e for so much more

1:04:15 ↗ efficient than all the other like we

1:04:17 ↗ always we often time to compare

1:04:19 ↗ ourselves to like Redmond and what we've

1:04:21 ↗ been doing and we're like a we're just

1:04:23 ↗ light years ahead of them this I'm gonna

1:04:24 ↗ go bragh - Hank next time I see him def

1:04:26 ↗ please do

1:04:28 ↗ work so well I'm I have to I came in in

1:04:32 ↗ the middle of this the first the first

1:04:33 ↗ place where credit needs to go is that

1:04:35 ↗ you've had five government local

1:04:36 ↗ government entities that decided to get

1:04:38 ↗ together and rather than base your

1:04:40 ↗ organization on a funding stream like

1:04:42 ↗ saying RFA or a Fire District does which

1:04:44 ↗ is a property tax where they basically

1:04:46 ↗ get to budget towards well this is the

1:04:49 ↗ amount of money we can collect on

1:04:50 ↗ property taxes so let's budget to that

1:04:51 ↗ number which you had the foresight to do

1:04:53 ↗ back in 1999 was put together a

1:04:56 ↗ interlocal agreement that holds each

1:04:58 ↗ other accountable put together a board

1:05:00 ↗ of directors of the elected officials of

1:05:02 ↗ those five and hold the organization

1:05:04 ↗ accountable and you set a parameter for

1:05:06 ↗ efficiency being one of the reasons you

1:05:09 ↗ move forward to provide a quality

1:05:10 ↗ service but be efficient I think it's

1:05:12 ↗ because you hold each other accountable

1:05:13 ↗ now now I came in two and a half years

1:05:16 ↗ ago and as part of the recruitment

1:05:17 ↗ process and anybody who switched jobs

1:05:19 ↗ understand you look at a recruitment

1:05:21 ↗ flyer and you you study and you have

1:05:22 ↗ conversations and you make sure that

1:05:24 ↗ your personality is the right fit for

1:05:25 ↗ the organization and frankly since

1:05:28 ↗ getting here I found out that my

1:05:30 ↗ personality is the right fit for the

1:05:31 ↗ organization and the staff that we have

1:05:32 ↗ and part of what the marching orders I

1:05:35 ↗ received from the board has been is that

1:05:36 ↗ hey we want to continue to provide a

1:05:38 ↗ quality service but we want to do it as

1:05:39 ↗ an efficient way possible when we did

1:05:42 ↗ these comparisons I don't think anyone

1:05:43 ↗ knew where we landed this is something

1:05:44 ↗ that that I brought in is something that

1:05:46 ↗ I used to do in my past

1:05:47 ↗ we brought in these comparisons I didn't

1:05:49 ↗ expect the comparisons to be this

1:05:51 ↗ different when I looked at regional fire

1:05:53 ↗ authorities though specifically because

1:05:55 ↗ those of you that have been involved in

1:05:56 ↗ the board understand that there was a

1:05:57 ↗ when I walked through the door there was

1:05:59 ↗ a some contention about a regional Fire

1:06:01 ↗ Authority regional Fire Authority bears

1:06:03 ↗ out that it's the most expensive model

1:06:04 ↗ you can do from a city perspective and

1:06:07 ↗ Emily I apologize but I used to work in

1:06:09 ↗ a big city so I get to say this from a

1:06:11 ↗ city perspective it's very hard to hold

1:06:14 ↗ to to be critical of the of every line

1:06:18 ↗ item all the way through the budget and

1:06:20 ↗ holding accountable and I'm sure all of

1:06:21 ↗ you have had that experience as well not

1:06:23 ↗ because there's nobody being mischievous

1:06:25 ↗ or anything with the budget but it's

1:06:26 ↗ such a large animal and Redmon's you

1:06:28 ↗ brought up Redmond so I'll say I got to

1:06:30 ↗ believe there's a large large animal

1:06:31 ↗ there it's a qualtiy your budget is more

1:06:34 ↗ complicated than mine we can probably

1:06:35 ↗ take yes in the 50 to 75 line items that

1:06:39 ↗ I have it's pretty easy as a chief to

1:06:41 ↗ screwed

1:06:42 ↗ and hold accountable that number of

1:06:43 ↗ lines versus the layers upon layers that

1:06:46 ↗ a city has and depending on who's been

1:06:48 ↗ leading the fire department over those

1:06:50 ↗ years and what their personality is and

1:06:51 ↗ what their background is I don't think

1:06:53 ↗ that they can hold their organization as

1:06:55 ↗ accountable as I'm able to because of

1:06:57 ↗ the structure that you put together

1:06:58 ↗ before I got here at it that's my

1:07:00 ↗ opinion anyway all right thank you

1:07:01 ↗ mm-hmm other questions right now it's

1:07:05 ↗ too bad you haven't had an opportunity

1:07:06 ↗ to be on the e4 board because it's

1:07:08 ↗ really fun

1:07:16 ↗ [Laughter]

1:07:21 ↗ I have a quick question on the revenue

1:07:25 ↗ side what are the other sources of non

1:07:27 ↗ partner revenue okay all right so the

1:07:29 ↗ EMS levy is in King County EMS what

1:07:34 ↗ falls into the other three yeah John

1:07:37 ↗ help me could you I'm sorry she came up

1:07:40 ↗ to the microphone because people can't

1:07:42 ↗ hear us on the at home of the seven

1:07:45 ↗ people who are 7000 that's what I meant

1:07:51 ↗ to say sorry John Parkinson deputy chief

1:07:54 ↗ so the bulk of that's going to come

1:07:56 ↗ through a few things it's vehicle

1:07:57 ↗ contracts with other agencies cost

1:08:01 ↗ recovery from fire marshals or the other

1:08:02 ↗ is the other large one but that makes up

1:08:05 ↗ the bulk of it so there's odds-and-ends

1:08:07 ↗ which is some money that comes in from

1:08:09 ↗ school districts in the tens of thousand

1:08:11 ↗ ranges but and we can provide you a

1:08:16 ↗ break down to that's we just try to keep

1:08:20 ↗ it keep it easy

1:08:22 ↗ sometimes I keep it too easy though all

1:08:26 ↗ right so this this is a document that we

1:08:28 ↗ presented on July 5th one of the things

1:08:31 ↗ that I try to do to keep it really

1:08:33 ↗ simple is to just show you the

1:08:35 ↗ exceptions okay so what this is is an

1:08:37 ↗ exception report this is not up to date

1:08:39 ↗ with what your reps are gonna see on

1:08:41 ↗ Thursday but it's been vetted through

1:08:43 ↗ four meetings with the FAC

1:08:45 ↗ but largely here here's what you see is

1:08:48 ↗ in 19 here are the exceptions everything

1:08:50 ↗ that's over $20,000 that we're looking

1:08:52 ↗ at this does not reflect if I found

1:08:55 ↗ or if the staff found 20,000 dollars of

1:08:57 ↗ savings somewhere else and we were able

1:08:58 ↗ to use that for a priority that we

1:09:00 ↗ didn't have to ask the board for that's

1:09:02 ↗ not reflected in here either this is

1:09:03 ↗ just what is above what we were asking

1:09:06 ↗ for and our our initiatives I'm gonna go

1:09:08 ↗ over the major initiatives here towards

1:09:11 ↗ the end of the presentation so I but I

1:09:13 ↗ just wanted you to see the one-page

1:09:14 ↗ summary that we speak from in the

1:09:16 ↗ beginning and our board did see this as

1:09:18 ↗ a whole in June when they referred this

1:09:19 ↗ to the fact and then this isn't updated

1:09:24 ↗ we just presented this on September 24th

1:09:26 ↗ but back in June the board saw a similar

1:09:30 ↗ piece based on what our projections were

1:09:31 ↗ in June and you'll see this is 19 and 20

1:09:34 ↗ as far as what the proposal that our

1:09:40 ↗ board is going to consider on Thursday

1:09:42 ↗ night and you'll see for Issaquah it's a

1:09:44 ↗ six and a half percent proposal I'm

1:09:46 ↗ gonna get into a smoothing idea that

1:09:48 ↗ came across and understand that this

1:09:50 ↗ year the funding formula changed based

1:09:52 ↗ on the contract that was negotiated back

1:09:53 ↗ in 2015 alright so and that means

1:09:57 ↗ there's an absolutely nothing from an

1:09:59 ↗ organizational standpoint that changed

1:10:00 ↗ to change these numbers other than the

1:10:02 ↗ contract says that we have to redo 15%

1:10:04 ↗ which is based on call volume and

1:10:06 ↗ eighty-five percent of the formula which

1:10:07 ↗ is based on assessed valuation and that

1:10:10 ↗ changed the actual percentages that each

1:10:12 ↗ partner play pays as far as our final

1:10:16 ↗ proposal in 19 it's a three point six

1:10:18 ↗ three percent operating budget increase

1:10:21 ↗ or partner contribution increase and in

1:10:23 ↗ 2020 it's a two point four eight percent

1:10:26 ↗ but you'll see based on this it's three

1:10:28 ↗ point six three for the whole agency but

1:10:30 ↗ Issaquah sees a six and a half percent

1:10:31 ↗ increase if it's accepted as it is here

1:10:34 ↗ and it's because of the funding formula

1:10:35 ↗ refresh not because of anything that we

1:10:37 ↗ did operationally this is the this is

1:10:41 ↗ the latest summary that we landed on

1:10:42 ↗ when it comes to actual revenue and

1:10:45 ↗ expense it's just meant to be the

1:10:47 ↗ summary to demonstrate the three point

1:10:49 ↗ six three percent and the two point four

1:10:50 ↗ eight percent for 19 2019 and 2020 and

1:10:54 ↗ you can see the updated revenue

1:10:56 ↗ projections across the bottom there

1:11:02 ↗ all right so then what I wanted to do

1:11:04 ↗ was just include a few of our major

1:11:06 ↗ initiatives so that you understand what

1:11:08 ↗ the changes are and where we're moving

1:11:10 ↗ again I hope you'll see at the end that

1:11:12 ↗ there's a theme here about efficiencies

1:11:13 ↗ and doing everything we can one of my

1:11:15 ↗ first mandates back to staff after we

1:11:17 ↗ have we first solicit out to our staff

1:11:20 ↗ on what potential budget items they need

1:11:21 ↗ moving forward once we assemble those my

1:11:25 ↗ executive staff the three deputy chiefs

1:11:26 ↗ and myself we will sit we'll go through

1:11:28 ↗ those a little bit and and now after

1:11:31 ↗ this is my third budget here it doesn't

1:11:32 ↗ even come to me before this this step

1:11:34 ↗ now it's basically they ask everybody

1:11:36 ↗ okay what resources do we have right now

1:11:38 ↗ to handle the things that you're asking

1:11:40 ↗ for so that we don't have to go ask the

1:11:43 ↗ board of directors for something that's

1:11:44 ↗ our last option is to ask for more money

1:11:46 ↗ our first options are to handle things

1:11:47 ↗ in-house so first of all our first

1:11:50 ↗ initiative what this is outlined in our

1:11:51 ↗ strategic plan was getting to a plan

1:11:53 ↗ where in our urban core as you recall

1:11:55 ↗ from our standards of response coverage

1:11:57 ↗ Sammamish in Issaquah are by definition

1:11:59 ↗ urban areas they are they should be

1:12:02 ↗ getting served we should be serving them

1:12:04 ↗ from a fire service perspective with

1:12:06 ↗ dedicated aid car system right now what

1:12:08 ↗ happens in our six fire stations that we

1:12:10 ↗ have in Issaquah and Sammamish is that

1:12:12 ↗ when an aide call comes out our

1:12:14 ↗ firefighters come out and they jump in

1:12:16 ↗ the aid unit and they respond on an aid

1:12:18 ↗ call all right they go back to the

1:12:20 ↗ station if another call comes out this

1:12:21 ↗ fire related then they jump on the fire

1:12:23 ↗ engine the problem with that system is

1:12:25 ↗ when a fire call kicks out and the three

1:12:28 ↗ closest companies are coming back from

1:12:30 ↗ an aid call and they're in their aid

1:12:32 ↗ unit they can't fight the fire they have

1:12:34 ↗ to go all the way back to their station

1:12:36 ↗ get their fire engine and move back the

1:12:37 ↗ urban benchmark or best practice within

1:12:40 ↗ the industry is that they're always in

1:12:41 ↗ their engine in their ladder one of the

1:12:43 ↗ things we identified through the

1:12:44 ↗ strategic plan was in order to

1:12:45 ↗ accomplish that in the urban area which

1:12:48 ↗ is Sammamish in Issaquah those six

1:12:50 ↗ stations we need to add a couple of

1:12:52 ↗ dedicated units dedicated aid units

1:12:54 ↗ during a budget process so that means

1:12:58 ↗ adding to personate units two of them

1:13:00 ↗ during the day or during the 12 hours

1:13:01 ↗ 8:30 in the morning till 8:30 at night

1:13:03 ↗ and one that would be overnight for all

1:13:05 ↗ 24 hours is what's needed so you'll see

1:13:08 ↗ that based on this and these are all

1:13:10 ↗ going to sum up together but based on

1:13:12 ↗ this to add one 24 hour unit is

1:13:14 ↗ and $42,000 to meet that benchmark you

1:13:17 ↗ explained again for those of us who have

1:13:18 ↗ lucky enough to be on board yet what's

1:13:22 ↗ something that's bigger than sending out

1:13:24 ↗ an ambulance but smaller than than

1:13:26 ↗ setting out a fire engine as an aid car

1:13:29 ↗ whatsit yeah an aid car is an ambulance

1:13:31 ↗ basically so it's a it's synonymous with

1:13:33 ↗ ambulance actually just in the fire

1:13:34 ↗ service here we call it an aid car so it

1:13:37 ↗ would be an ambulance that's responding

1:13:38 ↗ with three people on it the same three

1:13:39 ↗ people that are on the engine or the

1:13:41 ↗ engine they just pick one or the other

1:13:43 ↗ so we don't uh forgive me I've never

1:13:45 ↗ held that's a different ambulance or

1:13:47 ↗ anything good for you they don't send

1:13:49 ↗ ambulances they send the fire department

1:13:51 ↗ this in the fire department yeah there

1:13:52 ↗ the fire department is the first

1:13:53 ↗ responder and then if our ambulance

1:13:56 ↗ contractors am are here if we need to do

1:13:58 ↗ a transport that we can't facilitate

1:14:00 ↗ ourselves then we would call the

1:14:01 ↗ ambulance company and to perform that

1:14:03 ↗ but no the first response is handled

1:14:06 ↗ through the fire department in this area

1:14:09 ↗ and in most areas of the country got it

1:14:11 ↗ okay thank you you're welcome very

1:14:12 ↗ helpful so as as proposed if we were to

1:14:16 ↗ add dedicated aid units to our existing

1:14:18 ↗ system we would need nine hundred and

1:14:19 ↗ forty two thousand dollars to add every

1:14:21 ↗ 24-hour unit okay technically we need

1:14:24 ↗ two 24-hour units to serve the Issaquah

1:14:27 ↗ and Sammamish ares if we did things

1:14:29 ↗ traditionally alright but we really only

1:14:31 ↗ need two during the peak times which is

1:14:33 ↗ 8:30 in the morning to 8:30 at night so

1:14:35 ↗ that means we need one and a half right

1:14:37 ↗ a 12-hour unit at 24 hour units so that

1:14:39 ↗ number for one and a half is going to be

1:14:40 ↗ somewhere around 1.4 1.5 million dollars

1:14:43 ↗ just remember that number and I'll come

1:14:44 ↗ back to it all right so that's one of

1:14:46 ↗ the initiatives that we're achieving

1:14:47 ↗ with the budget that's proposed

1:14:49 ↗ currently and in this this is just a

1:14:52 ↗ visual depiction from our standards of

1:14:54 ↗ response coverage where it these red

1:14:56 ↗ marks here are the six fire stations in

1:14:59 ↗ our urban core so there's the green the

1:15:05 ↗ red the green dots are dots that we read

1:15:07 ↗ that we achieve the response time within

1:15:09 ↗ our response time goal the red are the

1:15:11 ↗ areas we don't end and the traffic's

1:15:14 ↗ area and South Cove those no matter what

1:15:17 ↗ we do with our station placement those

1:15:18 ↗ two areas are gonna stay pretty red

1:15:20 ↗ they're just they're odd configurations

1:15:23 ↗ to respond to they're difficult to get

1:15:25 ↗ in and out of

1:15:26 ↗ and forest rim for those of us who live

1:15:29 ↗ on squat yes and I'm one of them too I

1:15:31 ↗ don't live that high up but I'm on

1:15:32 ↗ squawk I'm not sure why this slide is

1:15:36 ↗ doing this so another initiative that we

1:15:38 ↗ had from the strategic plan is our span

1:15:42 ↗ of control of Supervisors so a battalion

1:15:45 ↗ chief is a 24 hour response supervisor

1:15:47 ↗ and currently we have one station right

1:15:49 ↗ here in downtown in squat station 71 and

1:15:51 ↗ 24 hours a day they're responsible to

1:15:54 ↗ cover a hundred and ninety square miles

1:15:56 ↗ that we have in efer area nine career

1:15:59 ↗ stations and five volunteer stations

1:16:01 ↗ that's a lot for one supervisor to

1:16:04 ↗ handle all right we clearly need a

1:16:06 ↗ second one more for space than call

1:16:08 ↗ volume but still covering 190 square

1:16:10 ↗ miles and nine stations plus the

1:16:12 ↗ volunteer stations is a lot so we

1:16:14 ↗ clearly need that this budget does

1:16:16 ↗ achieve it if we were to if we were to

1:16:19 ↗ add the 24-hour unit the the BC that's

1:16:21 ↗ almost six hundred thousand dollars

1:16:23 ↗ there can I ask are there so when we

1:16:29 ↗ when we've talked about adding officers

1:16:32 ↗ and to a lesser extent talking about

1:16:34 ↗ adding senior officers in the IPD

1:16:37 ↗ there's either an ik ma or some other

1:16:41 ↗ sort of standard that's used to say

1:16:44 ↗ we've crossed this threshold and so when

1:16:48 ↗ you talk about nine stations and five

1:16:52 ↗ volunteer stations there is there a

1:16:54 ↗ nigma standard or some other standard

1:16:56 ↗ that you can use to say here's you know

1:16:58 ↗ this is sort of the this is the industry

1:17:00 ↗ standard request you crossed it a while

1:17:02 ↗ ago we've been kind of waiting to do

1:17:03 ↗ this but we can't wait any longer I

1:17:05 ↗ would say ICMA doesn't doesn't have a

1:17:09 ↗ standard per se they're part of the fire

1:17:10 ↗ service accreditation process but for

1:17:13 ↗ the most part and I agree with this we

1:17:16 ↗ don't buy into just a standard because

1:17:18 ↗ demographics are so different Road

1:17:19 ↗ configuration and that is so different

1:17:21 ↗ I think universally from a management

1:17:23 ↗ perspective span of control of

1:17:25 ↗ supervising four people six people at

1:17:28 ↗ the most or direct reports is probably

1:17:31 ↗ the most efficient way to maintain that

1:17:32 ↗ and our folks are at 1 to 9 under our

1:17:36 ↗ current system that that's probably the

1:17:37 ↗ best benchmark I can provide you

1:17:39 ↗ the context of this request of where

1:17:41 ↗ we're going but you're gonna find all

1:17:44 ↗ over the map in the fire service about

1:17:45 ↗ what how many B C's there are versus

1:17:48 ↗ stations and supervision and square

1:17:51 ↗ miles and that kind of thing got it and

1:17:52 ↗ I ask just you know mostly because you

1:17:57 ↗ know fire and police are incredibly

1:18:01 ↗ trained professionals and thus do not

1:18:03 ↗ come cheaply so we always want very

1:18:05 ↗ careful oh no you do want to be careful

1:18:06 ↗ and probably that number I showed you in

1:18:08 ↗ the beginning and the comparisons with

1:18:10 ↗ FTEs of 1.06 per thousand now what is a

1:18:14 ↗ common benchmark that I would say the

1:18:16 ↗ ICM a and I to probably fight on a

1:18:19 ↗ regular basis would be they they're

1:18:21 ↗ likes to be a number of the number of

1:18:22 ↗ sworn firefighters and they want that to

1:18:24 ↗ be at one per thousand is kind of the

1:18:27 ↗ common push for proponents of that kind

1:18:30 ↗ of a metric same thing with PD they

1:18:31 ↗ might be a little higher than one but

1:18:34 ↗ there's nothing tying to the the

1:18:36 ↗ effectiveness or the efficiency of that

1:18:38 ↗ is just saying oh we should have one

1:18:39 ↗ firefighter per thousand which we don't

1:18:41 ↗ have we have 1.06 employees per thousand

1:18:45 ↗ but again I don't buy into that number

1:18:47 ↗ either I think everything's depending on

1:18:49 ↗ what service you're trying to achieve

1:18:51 ↗ and every community is a little

1:18:52 ↗ different thanks you're welcome so then

1:18:57 ↗ the budget has proposed what we're

1:18:59 ↗ actually doing this is something that I

1:19:01 ↗ wanted

1:19:01 ↗ councilmember winters team to hear

1:19:03 ↗ because he made a comment last year when

1:19:04 ↗ we talked about strategic plan and we

1:19:06 ↗ talked about not having to add people I

1:19:09 ↗ said yes I'm confident that as we move

1:19:10 ↗ forward we can achieve a lot of our

1:19:12 ↗ goals without having to add new people

1:19:14 ↗ so this is this is an example of this

1:19:16 ↗ what we're doing up and Sammamish under

1:19:18 ↗ this budget is they have a station which

1:19:21 ↗ is not on this map I'm gonna show you

1:19:23 ↗ so this station 281 okay that station is

1:19:29 ↗ our least busy I guess fire station

1:19:34 ↗ within the urban core all right and it

1:19:36 ↗ is pretty easy to identify how we could

1:19:39 ↗ cover our urban core with five fire

1:19:41 ↗ stations along with to dynamically

1:19:44 ↗ deployed staff aid units all right so

1:19:48 ↗ what we propose is repurposing station

1:19:50 ↗ 81 there's 12 personnel at that station

1:19:53 ↗ and utilizing those personnel to

1:19:55 ↗ populate the aid unit the 24-hour aid

1:19:58 ↗ unit and the 24 hour BC unit okay rather

1:20:01 ↗ than ask for new people all right and

1:20:03 ↗ then the station the 12-hour aid unit to

1:20:07 ↗ take care of the rest of the peak time

1:20:09 ↗ we're gonna staff when this is the five

1:20:11 ↗ hundred and forty forty eight thousand

1:20:13 ↗ dollar ad we want to staff that twelve

1:20:15 ↗ hours a day during the peak time because

1:20:17 ↗ during the peak time 8:30 in the morning

1:20:18 ↗ to 8:30 at night we run 66% of our call

1:20:21 ↗ volume 33 percent of our call volume is

1:20:23 ↗ from 8:30 at night till 8:30 in the

1:20:25 ↗ morning okay so what we what we see from

1:20:28 ↗ there is we can utilize twelve hours of

1:20:31 ↗ actually overtime putting to overtime

1:20:33 ↗ personnel on there is cheaper than

1:20:35 ↗ getting what we'd have to hire as a

1:20:37 ↗ minimum of four full-time employees it's

1:20:40 ↗ actually cheaper to staff this with

1:20:41 ↗ overtime

1:20:42 ↗ than with new employees especially over

1:20:45 ↗ the long run so we're proposing this 12

1:20:47 ↗ hour car with overtime and that's the

1:20:49 ↗ add rather than to do all of this by

1:20:52 ↗ just adding straight up to the budget is

1:20:54 ↗ just over it would be over a two million

1:20:55 ↗ dollar ask which I wouldn't I would no

1:20:58 ↗ not even to come ask for the two million

1:21:00 ↗ it's just it's far too much and at the

1:21:02 ↗ same time by repurposing we're achieving

1:21:04 ↗ the goals that we set out to to achieve

1:21:09 ↗ weight yes so go back for a second yes

1:21:11 ↗ sir there's there's another change Oh on

1:21:15 ↗ the on the map yes okay so South yeah so

1:21:18 ↗ there's there's a couple things that are

1:21:20 ↗ going on what what this deployment plan

1:21:23 ↗ presupposes is that the station that's

1:21:26 ↗ here would be moved somewhere along the

1:21:28 ↗ East Lake Sam corridor and currently

1:21:30 ↗ there's land that we're evaluating over

1:21:31 ↗ there in the city of Issaquah this was a

1:21:33 ↗ request from mr. Kyle misuk well when I

1:21:35 ↗ first arrived and we are planning that's

1:21:38 ↗ actually a good spot in that area for

1:21:39 ↗ the station so moving that station helps

1:21:42 ↗ us cover the area more efficiently and

1:21:44 ↗ then the extra dots that you see

1:21:46 ↗ including station 81 is still up there

1:21:48 ↗ the one we're repurposing and then out

1:21:50 ↗ here in traffic's those are basically

1:21:52 ↗ posting locations so that the to 8 units

1:21:55 ↗ what's not going to happen is those two

1:21:56 ↗ staffed 8 units are not just gonna sit

1:21:58 ↗ in stations along with another fully

1:22:01 ↗ staffed engine or ladder and just wait

1:22:03 ↗ for the next call that we're not

1:22:04 ↗ spreading out our resources that we

1:22:06 ↗ to dynamically deploy those based on

1:22:08 ↗ call volume trends based on the areas we

1:22:10 ↗ need to cover so and with to be sees out

1:22:12 ↗ there we're gonna be able to cover and

1:22:14 ↗ monitor our larger areas on a more

1:22:16 ↗ regular basis more effectively so we're

1:22:18 ↗ gonna be moving our resources around so

1:22:20 ↗ I have a question mm-hmm

1:22:22 ↗ my house is one of the now little red

1:22:24 ↗ dots just to the east of forest rim okay

1:22:28 ↗ that is on your map you sit it until now

1:22:32 ↗ was a green dot yep

1:22:33 ↗ so will I pay higher homeowner's

1:22:36 ↗ insurance because I'm a red dot not a

1:22:38 ↗ green dot no in this in the city of

1:22:40 ↗ Issaquah you will have the same rating

1:22:42 ↗ that the city attains which is currently

1:22:45 ↗ a four so no you you should not and if

1:22:48 ↗ if you do give me a call we'll we'll

1:22:51 ↗ talk to the insurance companies for you

1:22:53 ↗ thank you other questions right now

1:22:56 ↗ comes from Edgar Ramos yeah there's a

1:22:59 ↗ lot of detail underneath all these dots

1:23:01 ↗ under the dots yeah yeah so I guess so

1:23:07 ↗ when you say repurposing 81 mm-hmm

1:23:09 ↗ meaning what what is that station a

1:23:12 ↗ couple of things here and then as you

1:23:14 ↗ say there's donat dynamical locations

1:23:16 ↗ there's not something there now that

1:23:19 ↗ means you have to create something oh

1:23:21 ↗ wait no what it means it's so station 81

1:23:23 ↗ we're actually gonna we're gonna post

1:23:24 ↗ that 12-hour unit when they're not doing

1:23:27 ↗ anything else then they're gonna cover

1:23:28 ↗ from station 281 okay so that's that's

1:23:32 ↗ what we mean by repurposing rather than

1:23:33 ↗ being 24 hours a day with an engine

1:23:35 ↗ company in there that's underutilized

1:23:37 ↗ we're gonna put a 12-hour 8 unit in

1:23:39 ↗ there with the two-person 8 unit and

1:23:42 ↗ they're gonna still support all the

1:23:44 ↗ urban area as they do today the other

1:23:46 ↗ area is is no they're not planning on

1:23:48 ↗ building any new facilities it will be

1:23:50 ↗ over time where's the best place to post

1:23:52 ↗ where do we move we know we need to

1:23:54 ↗ cover some area in the tropics and we

1:23:56 ↗ know South Cove depending on call volume

1:23:58 ↗ again I think I want to say this is

1:24:01 ↗ three years worth of data so don't think

1:24:02 ↗ that like South Cove that we're never

1:24:04 ↗ getting to any of the calls there this

1:24:05 ↗ is just it's either three or five years

1:24:08 ↗ that we piled on this map so there's a

1:24:11 ↗ lot to cover there but will dynamically

1:24:14 ↗ deploy them but simply by going to a

1:24:15 ↗ parking lot if need be if we know during

1:24:17 ↗ that time of

1:24:18 ↗ we normally get a call in south kovin

1:24:19 ↗ some of this stuff is predictable but

1:24:21 ↗ until we can have these smaller units to

1:24:24 ↗ respond this way we can't perfect the

1:24:26 ↗ science of how to cover the area either

1:24:28 ↗ it's just guessing through data we want

1:24:31 ↗ to actually get units out there and see

1:24:32 ↗ how accurate we can be and it won't take

1:24:34 ↗ long but then we'll know where the best

1:24:36 ↗ places to post are but we know now I've

1:24:38 ↗ committed to the city of Sammamish that

1:24:40 ↗ will be posting at station 81 whenever

1:24:43 ↗ we can with that unit in order to do

1:24:45 ↗ everything we can to maintain the

1:24:46 ↗ services there okay all right and then

1:24:53 ↗ in community programs I cited community

1:24:57 ↗ programs just to let you know some of

1:24:58 ↗ the great work that we're doing with our

1:24:59 ↗ volunteer our volunteer program over the

1:25:01 ↗ last two years has completely been

1:25:03 ↗ revamped and is moving forward and it's

1:25:05 ↗ thanks to a lot of great work from staff

1:25:08 ↗ and our volunteer folks Fire Corps has

1:25:11 ↗ expanded these are this is anything

1:25:13 ↗ volunteer wise that has not nothing to

1:25:15 ↗ do with responding on actual fires

1:25:17 ↗ alright these are these are our

1:25:19 ↗ volunteers who are the new drone program

1:25:21 ↗ that we just started with thanks to the

1:25:23 ↗ donation from the EMS foundation they're

1:25:25 ↗ running that fire core was all over

1:25:28 ↗ salmon days this last weekend they were

1:25:30 ↗ they were doing everything in support

1:25:32 ↗ our fire Explorer program kicks off

1:25:33 ↗ actually it's kicking off

1:25:35 ↗ I think it's Wednesday night I'll be

1:25:37 ↗ kicking off with 20 or 30 young people

1:25:39 ↗ from the from high school and then and

1:25:42 ↗ our reserves which was our old volunteer

1:25:44 ↗ program you'll see that there was an

1:25:45 ↗ increase in the academy and then the

1:25:48 ↗ stipends this is all being shared with

1:25:50 ↗ district 38 and district ne4 is a 33%

1:25:53 ↗ partner in the volunteer costs when it

1:25:55 ↗ comes to this stuff and then the public

1:25:59 ↗ education supply increases just that

1:26:00 ↗ just to have materials to hand out

1:26:02 ↗ because we're we are more visible than

1:26:04 ↗ what we've ever been and in more more

1:26:06 ↗ events than what we have been and then

1:26:08 ↗ some of the other budget items that we

1:26:09 ↗ went into more depth with you can see

1:26:11 ↗ here one of the things I want to call

1:26:12 ↗ out is wildland preparedness this this

1:26:15 ↗ scares me the dryer we're getting 100%

1:26:19 ↗ of our firefighters will receive

1:26:21 ↗ wildland training and we'll maintain

1:26:22 ↗ that beginning next year that has not

1:26:24 ↗ been the case here in the past and we

1:26:26 ↗ have as much interface as anyone in the

1:26:27 ↗ country we're just lucky it's been wet

1:26:29 ↗ and hopefully it stays that way

1:26:31 ↗ but we're going to be prepared if not

1:26:33 ↗ and then the rest of the command

1:26:35 ↗ training platform is a is a big move we

1:26:37 ↗ do not have a standard command training

1:26:39 ↗ platform never have at Eastside and this

1:26:42 ↗ is something frankly we just we need to

1:26:44 ↗ be covering our liability and training

1:26:46 ↗ our folks appropriately and

1:26:47 ↗ systematically and that's what that

1:26:49 ↗ system does for us chief can I see a

1:26:51 ↗ couple questions around that wildland

1:26:52 ↗ preparedness yes servants so it's cost

1:26:56 ↗ neutral so who's who's paying the bill

1:27:00 ↗ yes so so the reason we call that cost

1:27:03 ↗ neutral is we bumped some other training

1:27:06 ↗ priorities that we normally would do and

1:27:08 ↗ we slid it in next year as this is our

1:27:11 ↗ focus so we're using our existing

1:27:13 ↗ training budget to handle the pride the

1:27:15 ↗ new priority of wildland and we bumped

1:27:17 ↗ out what otherwise we thought could wait

1:27:19 ↗ a year and we'll take care of that in

1:27:21 ↗ 2020 that's why we're calling it cost

1:27:23 ↗ neutral I'm really glad to see that

1:27:25 ↗ we're doing that I think that you just

1:27:27 ↗ have to look at what happened when a chi

1:27:29 ↗ three years ago yes recognize that the

1:27:31 ↗ the then state fire marshal told me yes

1:27:34 ↗ 'equal was sort of the poster child of

1:27:36 ↗ wildland urban interface fires risk on

1:27:39 ↗ the western Cascades because of all of

1:27:41 ↗ our because of all of our butan

1:27:43 ↗ beautiful mountainside around us yeah so

1:27:45 ↗ I'm really glad to glad to hear that are

1:27:50 ↗ we doing anything with fire why's the

1:27:52 ↗ program to help homeowners sort of

1:27:55 ↗ ruggedized their properties yes against

1:27:57 ↗ against wildland fires yeah we are we

1:28:00 ↗ actually just had a community

1:28:02 ↗ preparedness BC was back in Emmitsburg

1:28:04 ↗ Maryland where the fire academy is and

1:28:06 ↗ he was getting some overview on that he

1:28:08 ↗ has some fire wise training you're gonna

1:28:09 ↗ see it start to roll out a little bit

1:28:11 ↗ more I think the hard part with fire

1:28:13 ↗ wise is you have to get people's

1:28:14 ↗ attention in order for them to

1:28:15 ↗ participate that hey it's a possibility

1:28:17 ↗ I think we're based on the the enquiries

1:28:20 ↗ that we received the last couple of

1:28:21 ↗ years I think the attention is starting

1:28:23 ↗ to get to folks that hey maybe this is a

1:28:25 ↗ possibility here and that once we can

1:28:26 ↗ grab hold with the public their

1:28:28 ↗ imagination a little bit that hey maybe

1:28:30 ↗ this stuff can happen here the

1:28:32 ↗ prevention can start to come around but

1:28:33 ↗ you will see a focus on that we do have

1:28:35 ↗ a focus on it it's just hard to get it

1:28:37 ↗ going because a lot of people just don't

1:28:38 ↗ believe it can happen here sure and I

1:28:40 ↗ think I mean you mentioned squawk two of

1:28:42 ↗ the seven of us are

1:28:44 ↗ on squawk yep and you know as beautiful

1:28:47 ↗ it is and as proud as we are of the

1:28:49 ↗ canopy that we have and I living in the

1:28:51 ↗ forest

1:28:52 ↗ you know my property is not ready for

1:28:54 ↗ any kind of anything running along the

1:28:57 ↗ ground so yeah you know I I think

1:29:00 ↗ whatever we can do as a community to

1:29:03 ↗ understand that risk we'd be good the

1:29:05 ↗ other question I have for you is in

1:29:07 ↗ terms of large scale emergency

1:29:09 ↗ preparedness I know that the Cascadia

1:29:11 ↗ rising didn't I don't think it came all

1:29:13 ↗ the way down to the like yfir level did

1:29:15 ↗ it no we did we did participate in

1:29:18 ↗ Cascadia rising yes okay so so efer has

1:29:22 ↗ plans around those those sorts of like a

1:29:26 ↗ subduction fault event and and

1:29:28 ↗ emergencies that would potentially arise

1:29:30 ↗ from the subduction fault yeah I think

1:29:32 ↗ how it categorizes is were we are folded

1:29:34 ↗ in with everybody that we serve and we

1:29:36 ↗ fold into your plan as the jurisdiction

1:29:39 ↗ you're actually one responsible to have

1:29:41 ↗ a plan and then we support that same

1:29:42 ↗ with the county and the state so we'll

1:29:44 ↗ obviously be involved in them we take

1:29:46 ↗ care of that we take part of the

1:29:47 ↗ planning processes for all of that

1:29:49 ↗ unlike a traditional City Fire

1:29:51 ↗ Department we don't have a formal role

1:29:53 ↗ because we went through this with

1:29:54 ↗ Sammamish as the authority having

1:29:56 ↗ jurisdiction is you the city not me the

1:29:59 ↗ contracted fire provider we are here in

1:30:02 ↗ full support and we work with your folks

1:30:03 ↗ on staff but you're the lead and then we

1:30:05 ↗ follow with it and so our plan is really

1:30:07 ↗ your plan when it comes to questions

1:30:09 ↗ specific to that got it thank you other

1:30:12 ↗ questions right now okay we're almost

1:30:15 ↗ through this the last thing I have is

1:30:18 ↗ the funding formula refresh I want to

1:30:20 ↗ let you know where we're at I explained

1:30:23 ↗ this a little bit that in 2015 the

1:30:26 ↗ contract was agreed to it was actually

1:30:28 ↗ so would have been prior to January 1st

1:30:29 ↗ 2015 that the contract was agreed to and

1:30:31 ↗ the funding formula is broken down with

1:30:33 ↗ the 85/15 that was new to the agency at

1:30:35 ↗ the time what you agreed to back then

1:30:37 ↗ was that in May of 2018

1:30:39 ↗ that the numbers would be reapplied

1:30:41 ↗ based on the 2017 session in the 2016

1:30:44 ↗ Norcom incident data now moving forward

1:30:48 ↗ when we signed the contract extension

1:30:49 ↗ last year we extended the contract to

1:30:52 ↗ 2026 and we planned to have automatic

1:30:55 ↗ tenure

1:30:56 ↗ Newell's in that contract and then we

1:30:57 ↗ planned that every two years that there

1:31:00 ↗ would be this data refresh rather than

1:31:01 ↗ waiting three four and five years which

1:31:03 ↗ is why right now specifically Issaquah

1:31:06 ↗ North Bend you have kind of a shock when

1:31:09 ↗ it comes to the amount that we're asking

1:31:10 ↗ for an increase because it's so many

1:31:12 ↗ years in between so but right now the

1:31:15 ↗ next refresh is 2022 so in 2022 we can't

1:31:19 ↗ predict it it'll again be mr. Kuan North

1:31:21 ↗ Bend but there are going to be some

1:31:23 ↗ partners who are gonna see an increase

1:31:25 ↗ and some partners who are going to see a

1:31:26 ↗ decrease as far as whatever the increase

1:31:30 ↗ the budgets going to be it's not going

1:31:31 ↗ to be uniform like it typically is so

1:31:34 ↗ one of the things that we did is we

1:31:35 ↗ staff proposed a couple of options we

1:31:40 ↗ were asked to after the first fact

1:31:42 ↗ meeting on how we might smooth this and

1:31:44 ↗ this example here is what's going to be

1:31:47 ↗ considered under a separate action on

1:31:48 ↗ Thursday night is a funding formula

1:31:51 ↗ smooth which this there's language that

1:31:53 ↗ accompanies this in a in our financial

1:31:56 ↗ policy that the Board of Directors

1:31:57 ↗ adopts which basically the quick summary

1:31:59 ↗ on this says that any no partner could

1:32:02 ↗ have more than a one and a half percent

1:32:05 ↗ increase above whatever the efer

1:32:08 ↗ increases so in this case our increase

1:32:10 ↗ is three point six three percent okay

1:32:12 ↗ from 2019 there is a typo the five point

1:32:16 ↗ four six up under bullet number two

1:32:18 ↗ there that was from an old version that

1:32:20 ↗ really should be five point one three

1:32:22 ↗ four this version but since we are

1:32:25 ↗ budget settled at a three point six

1:32:27 ↗ three percent increase what the smooth

1:32:29 ↗ says is that no agency can be build more

1:32:32 ↗ than one-and-a-half percent above the

1:32:35 ↗ three point six three which caps North

1:32:37 ↗ Bend and it's aquifer this year at five

1:32:40 ↗ point one three percent the remainder of

1:32:42 ↗ what otherwise would have been covered

1:32:44 ↗ by those two entities is spread out

1:32:45 ↗ based on the funding formula to the

1:32:47 ↗ other three partners then in the second

1:32:50 ↗ year it repeats and you kind of play

1:32:53 ↗ catch-up and you'll see that Issaquah

1:32:54 ↗ gets smoothed out but North Bend doesn't

1:32:56 ↗ quite make it alright but in in two and

1:32:59 ↗ a half years roughly North Bend will

1:33:01 ↗ make it what this does is limit the what

1:33:05 ↗ could have been easily a ten or a nine

1:33:07 ↗ or ten percent increase for you in North

1:33:09 ↗ Bay

1:33:09 ↗ it limits to whatever partner gets

1:33:11 ↗ affected from the funding formula

1:33:12 ↗ refresh to just one and a half percent

1:33:14 ↗ which is a little bit more realistic and

1:33:16 ↗ manageable from a North Bend perspective

1:33:18 ↗ I know and just in speaking to their

1:33:20 ↗ city manager she was looking at a seven

1:33:22 ↗ point eight two and I want to say that

1:33:23 ↗ our first rendition was over eight

1:33:24 ↗ percent for her budget and that size it

1:33:27 ↗ that was almost completely undoable she

1:33:30 ↗ was a little bit panicked and she

1:33:31 ↗ actually requested that we look at this

1:33:33 ↗ so the FAC has recommended that this be

1:33:35 ↗ approved I've talked to a couple of the

1:33:37 ↗ governing bodies that had questions

1:33:38 ↗ about this as a whole I do believe there

1:33:41 ↗ is support for this now moving forward

1:33:43 ↗ we'll see for sure on Thursday night but

1:33:45 ↗ this was at the pleasure of the fact to

1:33:47 ↗ figure out a way how to smooth it in for

1:33:51 ↗ partners now if adopted the way it's

1:33:53 ↗ presented this will be in effect for

1:33:55 ↗ 2022 as well I expect 2222 to be bad for

1:33:59 ↗ somebody just don't know who after that

1:34:01 ↗ when it goes to every two years this

1:34:03 ↗ probably won't have to apply again

1:34:04 ↗ because it should you shouldn't have a

1:34:06 ↗ radical change in AV or call volume over

1:34:08 ↗ a two-year period but over a four-year

1:34:10 ↗ period you're gonna see some significant

1:34:12 ↗ changes so but that's the last slide

1:34:14 ↗ I'll be happy to answer any more

1:34:16 ↗ questions you have questions

1:34:22 ↗ councilmember good I don't having I do

1:34:25 ↗ have a comment first of all thank you

1:34:27 ↗ for bringing your roadshow to is qua

1:34:29 ↗ appreciate it well so councilmember ray

1:34:33 ↗ and I are the city's representatives on

1:34:37 ↗ that East Side Fran rescue board and as

1:34:39 ↗ Chief Clark mentioned we will be as the

1:34:43 ↗ full board will be seeing the budget and

1:34:44 ↗ considering the budget and so council

1:34:46 ↗ members who have any feedback on what's

1:34:48 ↗ been presented tonight that would be

1:34:49 ↗ helpful for us as you heard the Finance

1:34:52 ↗ and Administration Committee that I

1:34:54 ↗ happen to be on recommended bringing the

1:34:57 ↗ his proposal to the to the full board

1:35:00 ↗ but we do still have to take our votes

1:35:03 ↗ so any feedback that you all have be

1:35:05 ↗ appreciated and we we gonna see it twice

1:35:08 ↗ or once the budget this is the second

1:35:11 ↗ time because we counted the June is the

1:35:12 ↗ first one so yes so yes so anything

1:35:15 ↗ before Thursday would be helpful thank

1:35:17 ↗ you

1:35:18 ↗ thank you for that I think that's it

1:35:23 ↗ oh and oh yeah thank you so much for

1:35:25 ↗ presenting we will offer it up if

1:35:27 ↗ there's any public comment this evening

1:35:28 ↗ on this subject

1:35:35 ↗ thanks again chief takes me back to when

1:35:41 ↗ we had a Public Safety Committee and

1:35:43 ↗ they wouldn't let me in land use or near

1:35:45 ↗ the roads so they got me no Public

1:35:47 ↗ Safety we had police and fire we kept

1:35:49 ↗ our fire department we kept our police

1:35:51 ↗ department as city of Issaquah and was

1:35:54 ↗ glad we moved over to a regional fire

1:35:57 ↗ and I hear great things different

1:36:00 ↗ employees and everybody seems quite

1:36:02 ↗ happy with what's going on and I know

1:36:05 ↗ very positive from councilmembers and

1:36:08 ↗ mayor's as well so keep it up

1:36:10 ↗ wildland issue is a big concern we had

1:36:15 ↗ four we had five example five homeless

1:36:20 ↗ camps over on the city property over

1:36:21 ↗ there and across ninety and we had one

1:36:25 ↗ fire and a very warrant but it didn't

1:36:27 ↗ get very big or they didn't even find it

1:36:28 ↗ actually it got put out but it was

1:36:30 ↗ visible from i-90 and there were calls

1:36:32 ↗ in that but I've I've been to lots and

1:36:36 ↗ lots of homeless camps and I've hardly

1:36:38 ↗ ever seen one where there wasn't

1:36:40 ↗ evidence of burned tarps burn tents or

1:36:43 ↗ out of control fires and that's

1:36:46 ↗ something we really need to think about

1:36:48 ↗ not that that's the only potential cause

1:36:50 ↗ of fires but it once something starts

1:36:53 ↗ racing up some of these hillsides

1:36:54 ↗ especially where you don't have water

1:36:56 ↗ don't have roads it's it's pretty

1:36:59 ↗ frightening and these these these hill

1:37:02 ↗ sites are too valuable to lose thank you

1:37:05 ↗ thank you for your comment actually

1:37:07 ↗ chief I did have one last question for

1:37:09 ↗ you and I wrote it down and I don't know

1:37:10 ↗ why I didn't ask you when it actually

1:37:12 ↗ does come back to the wildfire question

1:37:14 ↗ so I know that last year there was a

1:37:19 ↗ concerted effort to or I should say the

1:37:22 ↗ beginning of the effort to sort of

1:37:24 ↗ reassess how the federal government

1:37:26 ↗ supports growth of in in National Forest

1:37:31 ↗ Service land and whatnot and now part of

1:37:33 ↗ that was Senator Cantwell and

1:37:35 ↗ representative Reichert pushed a bill

1:37:38 ↗ and I don't remember which particular

1:37:40 ↗ kinds of trees it was but it was a it

1:37:42 ↗ was and it was a dry sided thing like it

1:37:44 ↗ was a thing that was great for the other

1:37:46 ↗ side of the pass wouldn't necessarily do

1:37:48 ↗ anything on our side but the question is

1:37:51 ↗ is there anything that folks on the on

1:37:55 ↗ the wet side of the pass should be doing

1:37:57 ↗ we rarely talk about federal issues

1:38:01 ↗ around here because they don't generally

1:38:03 ↗ affect our city all that much but I

1:38:04 ↗ don't know how much you know about that

1:38:06 ↗ effort that Cantwell and Riker did but

1:38:08 ↗ is there something similar that should

1:38:09 ↗ be done on this side to help sort of

1:38:12 ↗ revise how the feds handle these open

1:38:14 ↗ spaces it's a great question I really

1:38:17 ↗ don't know the answer to it I'm not

1:38:18 ↗ familiar with the effort that was made

1:38:20 ↗ there a large controversy in the in the

1:38:22 ↗ country of course is what we do to

1:38:25 ↗ manage our forests and there's there's

1:38:27 ↗ pros and cons on both sides and and

1:38:28 ↗ there are often bills at the federal

1:38:31 ↗ level and some of the state levels to

1:38:33 ↗ come up with policy on that the best

1:38:36 ↗ policy locally is keeping the brush and

1:38:39 ↗ your and the floor of the forest as

1:38:41 ↗ clean as possible around your structures

1:38:43 ↗ there's not much you're gonna do with

1:38:45 ↗ the tall trees so it's interesting

1:38:46 ↗ Washington State over the last five

1:38:48 ↗ years is number two in per square mile

1:38:52 ↗ wildfire burns like uncontrolled

1:38:55 ↗ wildfire burned and we're like number 35

1:38:58 ↗ in controlled burns so we in no way like

1:39:02 ↗ Georgia's number one for controlled

1:39:03 ↗ burns and it's up there for uncontrolled

1:39:05 ↗ burns but you know we just we are

1:39:08 ↗ totally out of whack for how much damage

1:39:11 ↗ wildfires do in our state versus how

1:39:13 ↗ much controlled burns we do and I don't

1:39:14 ↗ know enough I know it's a bigger deal on

1:39:16 ↗ the dry side than it is on the wet side

1:39:18 ↗ but I know that you know I know that

1:39:20 ↗ there's a lot of conversation about what

1:39:23 ↗ should be done to manage things such

1:39:26 ↗ that we're not number two you know for

1:39:28 ↗ for a wildfire so what I can do is

1:39:30 ↗ Ephraim we'll be building our

1:39:31 ↗ legislative agenda between now and

1:39:33 ↗ December so I will research that locally

1:39:35 ↗ and bring that back to the board to see

1:39:37 ↗ if there is anything within our state

1:39:38 ↗ that would

1:39:39 ↗ impact locally that is either being

1:39:41 ↗ worked on or maybe perhaps we should be

1:39:43 ↗ working on I can reach out to some of

1:39:44 ↗ the agencies to find that out I suspect

1:39:46 ↗ it's a federal issue not that it's an

1:39:48 ↗ issue for DC not in for Olympia but

1:39:50 ↗ either way it'll come across when in the

1:39:52 ↗ research saw like I said I think for our

1:39:56 ↗ city you know it's it's keenly important

1:39:59 ↗ that we reduce that in that risk

1:40:01 ↗ I would agree thanks thanks for taking

1:40:04 ↗ thought you're done all right

1:40:07 ↗ and with that any other final thoughts

1:40:10 ↗ no all right so we will move on to our

1:40:13 ↗ last item of the evening ID zero three

1:40:15 ↗ three four regional coalition for

1:40:17 ↗ housing aka arch parity updates back to

1:40:24 ↗ city administrator moon thank you

1:40:27 ↗ hopefully this will be relatively quick

1:40:35 ↗ by my pager sorry so city's a member of

1:40:42 ↗ the arch group which is an acronym for a

1:40:46 ↗ regional housing coalition this is a

1:40:48 ↗ group of 15 cities on the east side King

1:40:52 ↗ County and this coalition formed in the

1:40:56 ↗ early 90s to support the development of

1:40:59 ↗ affordable housing the organization's

1:41:03 ↗ Executive Board

1:41:04 ↗ huaquan established some advisory goals

1:41:08 ↗ that's really important voluntary goals

1:41:10 ↗ for each members financial contribution

1:41:13 ↗ to the coalition and in particular to

1:41:16 ↗ the coalition's Housing Trust Fund there

1:41:19 ↗ are two ways that cities that are

1:41:22 ↗ partners in arch contribute to arch one

1:41:25 ↗ is through an administrative fee that it

1:41:29 ↗ serves as the overhead contribution for

1:41:33 ↗ the organization so we pay for the staff

1:41:36 ↗ and the electricity in the offices and

1:41:39 ↗ all those sorts of things

1:41:40 ↗ our contribution for the admin fee is

1:41:43 ↗ roughly fifty thousand dollars a year

1:41:45 ↗ and then the second piece the

1:41:48 ↗ coalition members contribute to is to

1:41:51 ↗ the Housing Trust Fund the overall

1:41:56 ↗ Housing Trust Fund has made

1:42:00 ↗ contributions to affordable housing on

1:42:03 ↗ the east side to the tune of 65 million

1:42:06 ↗ dollars since the point in time when

1:42:09 ↗ arch was established created over three

1:42:11 ↗ thousand six hundred and forty eight

1:42:13 ↗ units we benefit from contributing to

1:42:19 ↗ the arch housing trust fund because our

1:42:23 ↗ funds go into a larger pot with the

1:42:27 ↗ other fourteen members and leverage

1:42:30 ↗ funds to create housing units here and

1:42:34 ↗ elsewhere on the east side and we also

1:42:38 ↗ benefit from that dedicated housing

1:42:40 ↗ staff that are truly subject matter

1:42:43 ↗ experts more so than staff most of our

1:42:47 ↗ cities have in-house those experts are

1:42:52 ↗ not only good resources for us in terms

1:42:56 ↗ of figuring out how to do the financing

1:42:58 ↗ on these deals but also on land use and

1:43:01 ↗ regulation on management of these types

1:43:04 ↗ of projects programs and financing tools

1:43:08 ↗ and then also on housing policy so

1:43:12 ↗ that's how we benefit from arch tonight

1:43:18 ↗ I wanted to bring forward three

1:43:21 ↗ questions so the Executive Board which I

1:43:24 ↗ serve as I suppose representative

1:43:29 ↗ recently took action after two years of

1:43:33 ↗ work on a set of questions and the board

1:43:37 ↗ in early 2018 made a recommendation that

1:43:41 ↗ we update what we call the parity goals

1:43:45 ↗ and parity is is a formula that we use

1:43:49 ↗ to describe the distribution of the

1:43:52 ↗ contributions and again those are

1:43:54 ↗ voluntary contributions to the housing

1:43:57 ↗ trust fund

1:43:58 ↗ so in mid 90s a formula was established

1:44:03 ↗ to describe what member contributions

1:44:07 ↗ might be and that formula has really not

1:44:11 ↗ been adopted and been adjusted over time

1:44:15 ↗ to bring in current housing statistics

1:44:20 ↗ population statistics employment

1:44:22 ↗ statistics the formula has remained the

1:44:26 ↗ same but the inputs to the formula were

1:44:29 ↗ not adjusted and so as a result the the

1:44:34 ↗ housing trust fund contribution has

1:44:37 ↗ remained fairly static and and its

1:44:41 ↗ leverage power therefore has diminished

1:44:44 ↗ and the number of units that we're able

1:44:45 ↗ to afford to construct has has been

1:44:52 ↗ affected because as we all know it's

1:44:55 ↗ more expensive to build houses now than

1:44:57 ↗ it was two decades ago

1:45:00 ↗ so tonight I'm bringing forward the

1:45:03 ↗ executive boards recommendation to

1:45:05 ↗ update the parity formula we refer to

1:45:08 ↗ this as the technical update I'm also

1:45:11 ↗ bringing forward a second ask from the

1:45:15 ↗ Executive Board and that's just to take

1:45:17 ↗ the temperature on whether or not you

1:45:20 ↗ believe the time is right for the arch

1:45:23 ↗ board to begin a conversation with

1:45:26 ↗ member communities about setting an

1:45:28 ↗ aspirational goal for the housing trust

1:45:30 ↗ fund so in the mid 90s the the goal that

1:45:34 ↗ was established was established really

1:45:36 ↗ because city said here's how much I

1:45:39 ↗ would like to contribute and how much

1:45:42 ↗ was generated out of applying the parity

1:45:46 ↗ formula and that Garner's about a 1.5

1:45:50 ↗ million dollars per year of contribution

1:45:54 ↗ that's this used to leverage these

1:45:56 ↗ projects 1.5 does not go as far as it

1:46:01 ↗ used to and so the board along with

1:46:05 ↗ elected officials from member

1:46:07 ↗ communities have met over the last two

1:46:09 ↗ years and begun a conversation about is

1:46:11 ↗ that still the right number for us 1.5

1:46:14 ↗ million dollars or do we wanna set a

1:46:18 ↗ different type of goal do we want to be

1:46:20 ↗ base that goal on the number of housing

1:46:22 ↗ units we'd like to create do we want to

1:46:25 ↗ base it on the what we call the sweet

1:46:28 ↗ spot which is a target range that we

1:46:31 ↗ think does the best to leverage other

1:46:33 ↗ funds and so the board has asked us to

1:46:37 ↗ go and shot that question with all of

1:46:40 ↗ our member City Council's and to ask

1:46:43 ↗ would you be interested in us starting a

1:46:47 ↗ conversation throughout the coalition

1:46:48 ↗ about a new aspirational goal for the

1:46:52 ↗ Housing Trust Fund so I've given you a

1:46:57 ↗ packet that lays out the technical

1:47:02 ↗ adjustment recommendation that is just

1:47:06 ↗ an adjustment to the formula itself it

1:47:10 ↗ would bring it up to today's housing

1:47:13 ↗ employment numbers for each member City

1:47:16 ↗ and establish a new target range that's

1:47:21 ↗ both a min and a max in the case of the

1:47:25 ↗ city of Issaquah we are currently in the

1:47:30 ↗ 2018 budget contributing a number that's

1:47:33 ↗ just below what would be the new men the

1:47:37 ↗ anticipated proposed budget for 2019

1:47:41 ↗ from the mayor will include

1:47:44 ↗ recommendation to raise our voluntary

1:47:49 ↗ minimum contribution to the trust fund

1:47:52 ↗ to the new minimum roughly but we will

1:47:58 ↗ discuss that during budget deliberations

1:48:01 ↗ so tonight really I'm seeking some

1:48:03 ↗ feedback on whether or not you agree

1:48:06 ↗ with the board's recommendation to

1:48:08 ↗ adjust the parity formula for housing

1:48:12 ↗ and employment numbers population

1:48:16 ↗ numbers that are consistent with

1:48:18 ↗ really what is occurring in cities today

1:48:22 ↗ and also a Flay ssin airy factor that

1:48:26 ↗ would be applied on a more regular basis

1:48:30 ↗ so that the formula keeps pace with with

1:48:33 ↗ growth and with inflation and then

1:48:36 ↗ secondly asking if you are also

1:48:40 ↗ interested in member cities and the

1:48:43 ↗ coalition having a conversation about

1:48:44 ↗ setting a more aspirational goal over

1:48:47 ↗ the next two months we will talk about

1:48:49 ↗ budget contribution to the housing trust

1:48:52 ↗ fund as part of budget deliberations yes

1:48:57 ↗ yes yes maybe yes yes maybe yes on

1:49:02 ↗ adjusting to reflect where the realities

1:49:05 ↗ today yes on an inflation bogey no idea

1:49:12 ↗ what to say about aspirational because I

1:49:14 ↗ just have no idea and I think you and I

1:49:17 ↗ have talked a little bit about it to me

1:49:19 ↗ it has to do with how does that compare

1:49:22 ↗ to our historical numbers are there ways

1:49:26 ↗ to contribute to that with you know

1:49:29 ↗ in-kind contributions how does it this

1:49:33 ↗ aspirational target how does it compare

1:49:35 ↗ to and I know some of this work a lot of

1:49:38 ↗ this the answer is going to come back at

1:49:40 ↗ budget time but I just want to be clear

1:49:41 ↗ what what am I thinking you know what

1:49:46 ↗ does this represent in terms of you know

1:49:48 ↗ a change in operational tempo for arch

1:49:51 ↗ and also you know the the the challenge

1:49:55 ↗ that I see with some of the other

1:49:58 ↗ efforts that are ongoing right now to

1:49:59 ↗ address low-income housing and

1:50:02 ↗ homelessness and what this would do you

1:50:06 ↗ know we just a few years ago

1:50:08 ↗ we were very excited because we got to

1:50:10 ↗ ten dollars per person in Human Services

1:50:12 ↗ funding right and so as I think about

1:50:15 ↗ that I think about where we might be in

1:50:18 ↗ terms of what we're asking from our

1:50:19 ↗ residents if we did if we did a big lift

1:50:22 ↗ for this and we did a big lift on

1:50:24 ↗ whatever was coming out of out of other

1:50:27 ↗ mechanisms and so these are all some of

1:50:29 ↗ the some of the concerns I have that

1:50:30 ↗ lead me to say maybe

1:50:31 ↗ on the on the aspirational piece false

1:50:36 ↗ Council President Mart's you fresh my

1:50:39 ↗ memory that I meant to also ensure that

1:50:42 ↗ council members and community members

1:50:45 ↗ understand that the voluntary target for

1:50:47 ↗ the Housing Trust Fund is not only able

1:50:50 ↗ to be satisfied that was our goal with

1:50:54 ↗ cash so general fund contribution but

1:50:57 ↗ also through land dedication and waiver

1:50:59 ↗ of fees or variety of means other

1:51:03 ↗ people's thoughts I'm sorry

1:51:07 ↗ one comment it's about the escalation

1:51:09 ↗ the adjusting and so it's just some

1:51:12 ↗ clarity around if we're talking about

1:51:13 ↗ adjusting that based on consumer price

1:51:16 ↗ index or we were talking about dusting

1:51:19 ↗ it based on the high price of housing

1:51:21 ↗ and that how that changes cpi-w so based

1:51:24 ↗ on sort of wage rate inflation thanks

1:51:29 ↗ thoughts

1:51:31 ↗ councilmember hunt you mentioned the

1:51:34 ↗ need to understand the sweet spot and

1:51:36 ↗ there's some information about that also

1:51:39 ↗ in the memo so how how will the

1:51:42 ↗ coalition go about understanding what is

1:51:44 ↗ a best target level to leverage other

1:51:47 ↗ funding funds etc sure so the executive

1:51:52 ↗ board and the elected official

1:51:55 ↗ representatives from each community have

1:51:57 ↗ met three times over the last two years

1:52:00 ↗ and have had a more robust conversation

1:52:03 ↗ about what is the sweet spot there are

1:52:08 ↗ probably a handful of different ways

1:52:10 ↗ that we could go about taking that

1:52:13 ↗ conversation forward what I would

1:52:15 ↗ envision as a board member is will

1:52:19 ↗ collect this feedback from member

1:52:21 ↗ communities over the next two months

1:52:23 ↗ about you know whether it's a yes of

1:52:25 ↗ maybe or know about feeling comfortable

1:52:29 ↗ with arch engaging in in subsequent

1:52:33 ↗ discussions about a aspirational goal

1:52:37 ↗ and then we may decide that that's too

1:52:41 ↗ difficult of a conversation to do in 15

1:52:43 ↗ cities Simon

1:52:44 ↗ easily and so perhaps we will convene a

1:52:47 ↗ group of elected officials and board

1:52:49 ↗ members to come up with some

1:52:52 ↗ recommendations to then take back out to

1:52:54 ↗ communities I think that probably is

1:52:56 ↗ going to be the most effective way to do

1:52:57 ↗ it okay so with the idea be then if

1:53:01 ↗ councils were interested in an

1:53:03 ↗ aspirational goal that aspirational goal

1:53:05 ↗ would be set by whatever this sweet spot

1:53:07 ↗ level is that is decided through I would

1:53:12 ↗ anticipate that if the feedback from

1:53:14 ↗ member councils is yes we're interested

1:53:17 ↗ in having a conversation about studying

1:53:19 ↗ a more aspirational goal that that

1:53:21 ↗ committee would then come up with some

1:53:24 ↗ recommendations it may involve a

1:53:27 ↗ recommendation that says we should set

1:53:29 ↗ an overall contribution target for all

1:53:32 ↗ the cities collectively that's within

1:53:35 ↗ the sweet spot that's one possibility or

1:53:37 ↗ it might be we think that PSR C has

1:53:43 ↗ indicated we need to create X number of

1:53:46 ↗ units over the next decade and so we're

1:53:48 ↗ going to set our coalition's goal as

1:53:51 ↗ some fraction of that per year so I

1:53:54 ↗ don't know what what those

1:53:56 ↗ recommendations would end up being one

1:53:58 ↗ possibility is that it would be relative

1:54:01 ↗ to the sweet spot comes member Ramos

1:54:07 ↗ just to get into the weeds a little bit

1:54:10 ↗ here arts has done great work over the

1:54:12 ↗ last couple decades for sure I'm no more

1:54:17 ↗ questions on predominantly the work they

1:54:19 ↗ do is building new affordable housing

1:54:22 ↗ units they've taken over someone they've

1:54:23 ↗ done some other things but that's a

1:54:25 ↗ majority of what they do and as times

1:54:27 ↗ now to my mind are changing a bit into

1:54:31 ↗ that model building new affordable

1:54:34 ↗ housing is the most expensive way to get

1:54:36 ↗ there and that model is never going to

1:54:39 ↗ catch up with the reality on the road so

1:54:43 ↗ how I'm interested in how arts would

1:54:46 ↗ also start looking at other ways of

1:54:48 ↗ doing things I'm very concerned about

1:54:51 ↗ preventing the loss of affordable

1:54:52 ↗ housing that already exists yes and

1:54:56 ↗ those kinds of things that could be done

1:54:58 ↗ in in other ways of doing things that

1:55:02 ↗ more models more new things to look at

1:55:05 ↗ other than the standard because that's

1:55:06 ↗ we're losing faster than we're gaining

1:55:09 ↗ and that's that's a model set for

1:55:11 ↗ failure in the long haul so I want to

1:55:14 ↗ make sure we're starting to look at

1:55:15 ↗ broadening the scope and opportunities

1:55:18 ↗ and alternatives that arch looks at

1:55:21 ↗ because I think that's very important in

1:55:23 ↗ the long haul of getting and this and

1:55:25 ↗ even also things like for sale units as

1:55:28 ↗ well as rental units and and they say

1:55:30 ↗ taking over some units that could be on

1:55:35 ↗ the verge of being lost from being

1:55:36 ↗ affordable converted to something else

1:55:38 ↗ or redeveloped those kinds of things to

1:55:40 ↗ stop that that loss which is I think the

1:55:42 ↗ only way we're going to get a handle on

1:55:43 ↗ this absolutely and so the trust fund

1:55:46 ↗ can be used to preserve housing and in

1:55:48 ↗ fact has on many occasions and then it's

1:55:52 ↗ not just new construction and sometimes

1:55:55 ↗ it's land to preserve opportunities for

1:55:58 ↗ new construction

1:55:59 ↗ sometimes it's preservation the

1:56:03 ↗ coalition also has a separate program

1:56:05 ↗ around downpayment assistance so there

1:56:08 ↗ are a variety of activities that support

1:56:11 ↗ either the creation the preservation or

1:56:15 ↗ affordable housing or the ability of

1:56:18 ↗ people to access and remain in

1:56:20 ↗ affordable housing and I went on for a

1:56:24 ↗ while though I'm just I'm just hoping my

1:56:25 ↗ encouragement is that I know they've

1:56:27 ↗ done a little bit of all of that in the

1:56:28 ↗ past I would like to encourage to look

1:56:31 ↗ at those things even more so in a

1:56:33 ↗ broader sense away from the the most

1:56:35 ↗ expensive way of which is building new

1:56:38 ↗ very good thank you

1:56:44 ↗ I also have some is across statistics

1:56:47 ↗ these would be of help as well our city

1:56:52 ↗ of Issaquah general fund contribution

1:56:54 ↗ from 2000 to 2017 2000 is the first year

1:56:57 ↗ we made such a contribution have equaled

1:57:00 ↗ nine hundred and sixty thousand dollars

1:57:03 ↗ our total contribution to a Housing

1:57:07 ↗ Trust Fund again yeah at the nine sixty

1:57:10 ↗ cash to all the land dedication etc has

1:57:13 ↗ been eight point six million dollars six

1:57:16 ↗ point five of that was probably related

1:57:18 ↗ to the YWCA in the highlands so the vast

1:57:21 ↗ majority of it and the total amount of

1:57:27 ↗ development cost that that's supported

1:57:29 ↗ so the value at that point in time when

1:57:31 ↗ it was constructed a hundred and forty

1:57:34 ↗ six million dollars so our cash

1:57:36 ↗ contribution nine hundred and sixty the

1:57:39 ↗ value of that development one hundred

1:57:41 ↗ and forty six million and the total arch

1:57:46 ↗ trust fund value in vested in city of

1:57:51 ↗ Issaquah projects sorry that other

1:57:54 ↗ number was development values so the

1:57:57 ↗ total value that arch contributed to

1:58:00 ↗ projects that occurred in Issaquah was

1:58:03 ↗ fifteen million dollars so we put in

1:58:07 ↗ nine hundred and sixty in cash eight

1:58:10 ↗ point six total fee waiver land

1:58:12 ↗ dedication etc and we got fifteen

1:58:16 ↗ million dollars out of the arch trust

1:58:19 ↗ fund that also included other member

1:58:23 ↗ city contributions to projects that

1:58:25 ↗ occurred in Issaquah and that led to the

1:58:27 ↗ creation of four hundred and fifty seven

1:58:29 ↗ units and six beds in a group home so

1:58:35 ↗ it's a it's a it's a pretty phenomenal

1:58:37 ↗ return on investment

1:58:43 ↗ other questions from Council do you have

1:58:48 ↗ more material you want a precise that's

1:58:50 ↗ that's it and so just looking for if

1:58:53 ↗ there are any other thoughts on shall we

1:58:54 ↗ shall we tell the rest of the arch board

1:58:57 ↗ and other communities that yes we're

1:58:59 ↗ gonna support this technical update to

1:59:03 ↗ the parity formula and then any other

1:59:06 ↗ thoughts on whether now is a good time

1:59:09 ↗ to continue a conversation about sending

1:59:11 ↗ an aspirational goal for the trust fund

1:59:13 ↗ and if the answer is yes to the first on

1:59:17 ↗ the technical update and I'm going to

1:59:18 ↗ prepare a very brief resolution that

1:59:22 ↗ looks like an endorsement of the formula

1:59:24 ↗ and we'll bring that forward for council

1:59:27 ↗ consideration my YES on the technical

1:59:34 ↗ update what's that I would yes I see the

1:59:38 ↗ value of the technical complicate okay

1:59:40 ↗ thank you seeing some good with the

1:59:43 ↗ resolution be in advance of the budget I

1:59:50 ↗ would try to get it prepared just as

1:59:52 ↗ soon as possible so I would anticipate

1:59:54 ↗ it would come forward be acted upon

1:59:57 ↗ before adoption of the budget I think

2:00:00 ↗ there's not a direct relationship there

2:00:03 ↗ it's again voluntary targets we get to

2:00:06 ↗ decide and an annual basis how much we

2:00:08 ↗ want to put in our budget for our

2:00:10 ↗ contribution so I don't think they need

2:00:13 ↗ to be linked all right thanks and I

2:00:15 ↗ agree with the technical okay

2:00:23 ↗ council member Ramos and I'm there too

2:00:25 ↗ and the aspirational side the other

2:00:26 ↗ thing I'd throw out there there's you

2:00:28 ↗ know a lot of talk going on and a lot of

2:00:30 ↗ other things happening in King County in

2:00:31 ↗ in this regard for a lot of things as

2:00:34 ↗ well so I would when we start getting

2:00:36 ↗ more T detail of that I'd like to

2:00:39 ↗ definitely see how those are connecting

2:00:41 ↗ with these other programs to to be most

2:00:44 ↗ efficient and how that that could tie

2:00:45 ↗ again you talk about sweet spot get some

2:00:48 ↗ you know some synergism that gets things

2:00:50 ↗ going and really has good payoff because

2:00:53 ↗ of that something's working together so

2:00:55 ↗ I think that would be a thing that had

2:00:56 ↗ to be tie into that aspirational sign

2:00:58 ↗ okay thank you any other thoughts

2:01:01 ↗ anything else you're looking for from us

2:01:06 ↗ Thanks

2:01:07 ↗ so I was looking at the parity summary

2:01:10 ↗ chart that was in your presentation it

2:01:12 ↗ looks like there are occasionally years

2:01:16 ↗ with really high local investment in

2:01:18 ↗ affordable housing by year in that chart

2:01:20 ↗ and then so there are occasional Peaks

2:01:23 ↗ and I wondered about the efficiency or

2:01:27 ↗ if you could speak to that why it

2:01:28 ↗ happens and also sure it seems like the

2:01:32 ↗ the having an aspirational goal would be

2:01:35 ↗ have it and what the relationship I

2:01:39 ↗ guess would be to this sort of peaking

2:01:41 ↗ that's already that we're already seeing

2:01:42 ↗ a short I'm sure and are you looking at

2:01:44 ↗ sort of the historical charts I'm

2:01:47 ↗ looking at specifically page 40 of 70

2:01:49 ↗ it's attachment 3 parity summary chart

2:01:52 ↗ and has annual support for affordable

2:01:53 ↗ housing and there's two really notable

2:01:56 ↗ yes shorts yeah okay

2:02:00 ↗ yeah so the other ends up being fee

2:02:06 ↗ waivers and lane and dedications largely

2:02:10 ↗ occasionally they are other grants that

2:02:16 ↗ are given to projects the CDBG is each

2:02:21 ↗ cities or the whole coalition's

2:02:25 ↗ Community Development Block Grant that

2:02:27 ↗ we get from federal government it's

2:02:30 ↗ allocated through

2:02:32 ↗ population and census information to

2:02:37 ↗ each municipality all the municipalities

2:02:40 ↗ and arch aggregate that money and an

2:02:44 ↗ arch is the recipient of our CDBG money

2:02:46 ↗ and then it's allocated back out to

2:02:49 ↗ projects and then general fund

2:02:51 ↗ contributions is just what we talked

2:02:53 ↗ about it's the cash contribution from

2:02:55 ↗ each city so the Green does that other

2:02:58 ↗ sources of funding definitely fluctuates

2:03:01 ↗ its dependent on what type of project is

2:03:03 ↗ being pursued or what each community

2:03:06 ↗ decides on a given year to contribute

2:03:11 ↗ there are spikes because there are even

2:03:14 ↗ spikes that we have been seen in just

2:03:15 ↗ the last year you can see 2017 and I'm

2:03:19 ↗ anticipating it for 2018 there were some

2:03:22 ↗ sizable cash contributions from

2:03:25 ↗ municipalities who decided this was

2:03:27 ↗ their top priority issue affordable

2:03:29 ↗ housing and then they decided to take

2:03:32 ↗ general fund balance and make sizable

2:03:36 ↗ contributions to the housing trust fund

2:03:38 ↗ so we do see spikes from time to time

2:03:40 ↗ for a variety of reasons and I think any

2:03:44 ↗ change so that parity formula is not

2:03:46 ↗ gonna change that

2:03:49 ↗ that pattern and on that em'ly

2:03:51 ↗ aspirational goal the aspirational goal

2:03:55 ↗ would just be that it would it would

2:03:57 ↗ help set a new target for the

2:03:59 ↗ organization so right now the

2:04:03 ↗ aspirational goal is that 1.5 million

2:04:06 ↗ dollars like it was from 1996 that

2:04:10 ↗ became the basis for the parity formula

2:04:12 ↗ now we would need to discuss do we want

2:04:16 ↗ to set a new target whether or not we

2:04:18 ↗ actually achieve that target each year

2:04:20 ↗ is going to be up to individual cities

2:04:22 ↗ in terms of their cash contribution or

2:04:24 ↗ other contributions

2:04:31 ↗ other questions

2:04:35 ↗ great alright you with that then any

2:04:39 ↗ closing comments from anybody nobody in

2:04:41 ↗ the nobody from the public has chosen

2:04:43 ↗ just stay with this house never hunt I

2:04:46 ↗ like more information about how if if

2:04:49 ↗ the aspirational goal were to be the

2:04:52 ↗ direction of arch how that would be

2:04:54 ↗ decided just because they feel like it's

2:04:56 ↗ um I would like more information to know

2:04:59 ↗ okay very good and I'd be happy to

2:05:01 ↗ provide that I think over the next

2:05:04 ↗ couple of months we're trying to get

2:05:06 ↗ this input from member cities so I would

2:05:08 ↗ imagine that say in January the board

2:05:11 ↗ will be able to kind of report back out

2:05:13 ↗ to all member cities about what we heard

2:05:15 ↗ and what we're going to do all right and

2:05:20 ↗ any other closing thoughts all right

2:05:23 ↗ thank you City Administrator moon with

2:05:25 ↗ that we are adjourned

2:05:37 ↗ you

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Council / Members (5)

Stacy Goodman

Victoria Hunt

Tola Marts

Bill Ramos

Chris Reh

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Mariah Bettise

Paul Winterstein