City Council Special Meeting · Monday, October 8, 2018 · City Council Digest

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0:13 ↗ good evening and welcome to the Monday

0:17 ↗ October 8 aqua city council committee

0:20 ↗ work session we counsel deputy president

0:25 ↗ batiste and councilmember winter Stein

0:26 ↗ are excused and we are going to have

0:29 ↗ three items this evening we're gonna

0:31 ↗ start with I do three for zero a Sequoia

0:34 ↗ and clothing bank then there's gonna be

0:36 ↗ a slight change in the agenda we're

0:37 ↗ gonna go to I do 349 East Side Fire and

0:40 ↗ Rescue budget overview and we're gonna

0:42 ↗ end the evening with ID zero three three

0:44 ↗ four the arch parity update and so we

0:50 ↗ will be offering audience comment

0:51 ↗ between each of the three items if you

0:53 ↗ are so inclined and with that we're

0:56 ↗ gonna start off with I do three four

0:59 ↗ zero is equal and clothing bank and I'm

1:01 ↗ going to start with City Administrator

1:03 ↗ moon thank you good evening I'm pleased

1:08 ↗ to help introduce this item tonight the

1:10 ↗ squad food and clothing bank is here to

1:12 ↗ give a presentation about their growing

1:16 ↗ service needs and their desire to

1:19 ↗ operate out of an expanded facility

1:21 ↗ currently they operate out of a

1:24 ↗ city-owned building and that's why

1:26 ↗ they're speaking to you first one of the

1:30 ↗ options that they have explored is to

1:32 ↗ replace the existing structure with a

1:35 ↗ larger structure in order to meet their

1:38 ↗ service needs and they'll explain that

1:41 ↗ proposal to you tonight however in

1:44 ↗ addition to just sharing that

1:45 ↗ information we're hoping to gather any

1:48 ↗ questions that you might have so that we

1:50 ↗ can help you as representatives as

1:55 ↗ property owner helped determine how we

1:59 ↗ want to handle this proposal so I've

2:02 ↗ laid out some possible ways that you

2:05 ↗ could analyze this issue we're just

2:08 ↗ hoping that this is the initial

2:10 ↗ conversation where you get dialogue

2:13 ↗ going generate some questions for us

2:15 ↗ that we can help answer and

2:18 ↗ also help us understand how you might

2:21 ↗ want to continue the conversation so is

2:24 ↗ there a preferred path in terms of

2:27 ↗ discussing this with council members so

2:30 ↗ committee structure keeping it with the

2:32 ↗ whole body etc so with that I'll throw

2:37 ↗ it over to Cory Cory Walters the

2:39 ↗ executive director of the squad food and

2:41 ↗ clothing bank welcome hi well good

2:48 ↗ evening everyone I'm Cory Walters

2:50 ↗ executive director of the Issaquah food

2:52 ↗ and clothing bank and thank you for the

2:55 ↗ opportunity to share more about our

2:57 ↗ organization and our current facility

2:59 ↗ needs before I get started I'd like to

3:01 ↗ introduce my team that is here today we

3:04 ↗ have Alana chute

3:05 ↗ she's our project manager from OAC and

3:08 ↗ Steve Johnson he's from OAC Tom Ehlers

3:11 ↗ is our board chair and Jim Merrill is

3:15 ↗ our facility committee chair and John

3:18 ↗ Rittenhouse is a food bank special manna

3:20 ↗ special project manager so as Emily said

3:25 ↗ we're hoping to have a open dialogue so

3:27 ↗ interrupt me anytime ask questions

3:29 ↗ provide comments I would really

3:31 ↗ appreciate that if you haven't been down

3:34 ↗ to the food bank recently I'd encourage

3:35 ↗ you to come down for a tour I'd love to

3:38 ↗ show you around when we're open and the

3:42 ↗ facility is busy and active because you

3:44 ↗ really can get a good understanding for

3:46 ↗ what we do at the food bank but also for

3:49 ↗ what some of our constraints are when

3:51 ↗ you're down there seeing us in action

3:54 ↗ the mission of the Issaquah food and

3:56 ↗ clothing bank is to meet our community

3:59 ↗ members basic needs and help promote

4:01 ↗ self-sufficiency and I'm gonna share

4:18 ↗ okay I already did that so currently

4:26 ↗ we're in a city building at 179 first

4:29 ↗ Avenue South East and our building is

4:31 ↗ five thousand two hundred fifty square

4:33 ↗ feet and we believe that in order to

4:36 ↗ conduct our current services and to me

4:38 ↗ the growing community needs efficiently

4:42 ↗ and effectively and safely we need to

4:46 ↗ possibly triple our current space and

4:50 ↗ we're proposing that we replace our

4:52 ↗ existing building with a three-story

4:54 ↗ building on the same footprint and we're

4:59 ↗ asking the City Council today just to

5:02 ↗ hear our ideas and to consider some

5:06 ↗ different ways that we might be able to

5:08 ↗ work together to bring something really

5:10 ↗ special and super needed in our

5:12 ↗ community so tonight I'm going to share

5:14 ↗ a little bit more about who we are and

5:16 ↗ what we do

5:17 ↗ I'd like to identify what our current

5:19 ↗ needs are and what some opportunities

5:21 ↗ and for growth are for our organization

5:24 ↗ I'd like to explain what we would do if

5:26 ↗ we had an expanded facility and we're

5:29 ↗ gonna kind of share a little bit more

5:31 ↗ about how we landed on this particular

5:32 ↗ idea versus other ideas so to start with

5:37 ↗ who do we serve I don't want to assume

5:39 ↗ that everybody knows everything about

5:41 ↗ the food bank so some of this might be

5:43 ↗ repetitive to you but we serve the

5:45 ↗ entire is across school district and our

5:48 ↗ for our food bank alone just our food

5:51 ↗ bank services serves 100 families almost

5:55 ↗ every time that we're open during your

5:57 ↗ service hours that's about 1200

5:59 ↗ different individuals every week and

6:01 ↗ we're providing over four thousand

6:06 ↗ transactions a month and last year we

6:09 ↗ provided over fifty thousand bags of

6:11 ↗ groceries to our community members 30%

6:15 ↗ of the people we serve are senior

6:17 ↗ citizens and 30% of the people we serve

6:19 ↗ our children so we're serving our most

6:21 ↗ vulnerable populations at a higher

6:24 ↗ a lot of the people we serve are living

6:27 ↗ on fixed incomes in our community

6:29 ↗ although many of our households have one

6:32 ↗ or two incomes in their household a lot

6:36 ↗ of the people that we serve have

6:37 ↗ disabilities that is who you serve sorry

6:47 ↗ I missed that slide so there's a quad

6:52 ↗ and clothing bank I feel like we do a

6:53 ↗ great job bringing the community

6:55 ↗ together to serve people in need in a

6:58 ↗ variety of ways we have over 250

7:01 ↗ volunteers every week that provide 1800

7:05 ↗ volunteer hours a month for our

7:08 ↗ community and in our current building we

7:11 ↗ have a grocery store we have a grocery

7:15 ↗ to go program where we deliver food to

7:18 ↗ homebound citizens and to people who

7:21 ↗ have severe transportation barriers we

7:24 ↗ have a clothing bank we have a case

7:26 ↗ management program where we work

7:28 ↗ one-on-one with families and individuals

7:33 ↗ we help people get connected with

7:36 ↗ resources and referrals in our community

7:38 ↗ and work closely with partner agencies

7:40 ↗ and our case management program requires

7:42 ↗ private confidential space we have

7:48 ↗ several feeding programs for children

7:50 ↗ and we often have partner agencies in

7:54 ↗ our lobby providing extra resources and

7:57 ↗ services to the families who walk

7:59 ↗ through our doors

8:06 ↗ so the Issaquah food clothing bank has

8:09 ↗ been working for a long time on trying

8:11 ↗ to identify what the true needs are in

8:13 ↗ our community and before I dive into

8:16 ↗ that too deeply I want to explain what

8:19 ↗ food insecurity means so that we're all

8:21 ↗ using the same definition food

8:23 ↗ insecurity is when a household has to

8:26 ↗ make trade-offs on important basic needs

8:29 ↗ such as housing and medical bills for

8:33 ↗ versus purchasing nutritional

8:36 ↗ adequate foods for their home so this

8:40 ↗ model here represents what we believe to

8:43 ↗ be our current landscape so the orange

8:47 ↗ outer circle is there is a quad school

8:50 ↗ district the population of the Issaquah

8:52 ↗ school district and the blue circle our

8:56 ↗ current food bank clients so last year

9:00 ↗ that's the number of people we serve

9:01 ↗ just in our food bank that doesn't

9:03 ↗ include any clothing bank clients or any

9:05 ↗ special programs the yellow circle is

9:08 ↗ the number of people in our community

9:10 ↗ living below the poverty line and the

9:13 ↗ gray circle represents a number of

9:16 ↗ people living below the poverty are not

9:18 ↗ living below the poverty line but may

9:21 ↗ not have enough resources in their

9:23 ↗ household to keep them from being food

9:26 ↗ insecure it's not me is that pretty

9:31 ↗ clear so our goal at the food bank is to

9:34 ↗ grow that blue circle so that it expands

9:37 ↗ into the gray circle so anybody in our

9:39 ↗ community who may have needs that we're

9:42 ↗ able to step in and help them before

9:44 ↗ they get into a situation that is

9:46 ↗ critical or kind of starts to spiral out

9:50 ↗ of control and a hundred we're currently

9:54 ↗ at 100% capacity and as you can see

9:56 ↗ we're only serving one out of five

9:59 ↗ people in need in our service area so

10:02 ↗ our concern is what's going to happen in

10:04 ↗ our community as the population grows

10:06 ↗ once again what is this going to look

10:08 ↗ like when we're only because of our

10:10 ↗ space constraints we're only able to

10:12 ↗ serve one out of six or one eight out of

10:14 ↗ the individuals in need so the number of

10:18 ↗ people that we serve and the number of

10:21 ↗ people that need services directly

10:24 ↗ impact our space needs and our

10:27 ↗ operational needs I have a question yeah

10:31 ↗ how has though how have those numbers in

10:34 ↗ terms of the minimum of obtainable

10:36 ↗ service marketed maximum attainable

10:38 ↗ service market how have those changed

10:40 ↗ over time and as a fraction of the of

10:44 ↗ the population and what does that tell

10:46 ↗ us about how the future looks

10:48 ↗ right what I can say is we used Issaquah

10:52 ↗ community needs assessment and Sammamish

10:54 ↗ community needs assessment and feeding

10:57 ↗ America data and u.s. census data to

11:00 ↗ kind of we kind of melded all of those

11:03 ↗ pieces together to come up with this

11:05 ↗ chart and this is new so we don't have

11:09 ↗ this chart from years in the past but

11:11 ↗ what I can say is that is a clock

11:12 ↗ community needs assessment has stated

11:14 ↗ that you know the area median income

11:21 ↗ let's see peep that the cost of housing

11:25 ↗ has really priced people out of our

11:28 ↗ community so this the gray circle has

11:31 ↗ really grown in recent years based on

11:33 ↗ the affordability of our community and

11:35 ↗ if I think back the housing rental rates

11:40 ↗ in the in the case in the Issaquah

11:42 ↗ community needs assessment stated that

11:44 ↗ housing rates have like gone up like two

11:47 ↗ hundred dollars a month or something

11:48 ↗ three hundred dollars a month in the

11:50 ↗ last just couple of years so small

11:52 ↗ changes in housing costs are what put

11:55 ↗ people in need of additional services so

12:00 ↗ and I can get totally we can I can pull

12:03 ↗ up those specifics but I think it's

12:05 ↗ definitely in the last three years has

12:07 ↗ gotten harder and harder for people in

12:09 ↗ our community okay I was just wondering

12:13 ↗ if it's if the relative need has has

12:15 ↗ been pretty constant or it's been

12:17 ↗ getting a little better has been getting

12:19 ↗ a little bit worse you know as the

12:21 ↗ population has grown I think it's I

12:24 ↗ think the need has gotten a little bit

12:25 ↗ worse so and I'll talk a little bit more

12:27 ↗ about that and are specific with some

12:29 ↗ specific programs so the food bank has

12:32 ↗ seen a slow increase in our food bank

12:34 ↗ service numbers but where we've really

12:37 ↗ seen a huge increases in our special

12:39 ↗ programs and we've developed special

12:43 ↗ programs over time because we recognize

12:46 ↗ it's hard for families and individuals

12:48 ↗ to come into our food bank to access

12:50 ↗ services for a variety of reasons pride

12:53 ↗ accessibility schedule all kinds of

12:57 ↗ things so we've started developing

12:58 ↗ programs where we're actually going out

13:00 ↗ into the community

13:02 ↗ and I'll show definitely some more about

13:05 ↗ that and the in the neck in a future

13:07 ↗ slide here Thanks

13:08 ↗ yeah any other questions so for the sake

13:19 ↗ of time this slide is kind of similar

13:22 ↗ than what we were just talking about I'm

13:23 ↗ going to kind of skip through this but I

13:25 ↗ wanted to let you know since it was in

13:27 ↗ your packets that there's an air on the

13:29 ↗ slide the three arrows actually should

13:31 ↗ be pointing just to the three bottom

13:33 ↗ levels and not to high food security

13:37 ↗ basically this graph is reiterating that

13:40 ↗ families living on 60 percent of the

13:42 ↗ area median income could be considered

13:45 ↗ marginally food insecure low food

13:48 ↗ insecure or very low insecure so this is

13:58 ↗ where I'll kind of answer your question

13:59 ↗ Tula our current programs have grown in

14:02 ↗ such high demand that they are severely

14:05 ↗ taxing our current operational needs and

14:07 ↗ making it really really difficult in our

14:10 ↗ current building to do our work

14:11 ↗ efficiently and sometimes safely we've

14:15 ↗ worked hard over the past few years to

14:17 ↗ optimize our space as creatively as

14:21 ↗ possible and we feel like we've

14:22 ↗ exhausted every last inch of our

14:25 ↗ building in recent months we've moved to

14:28 ↗ an off-site warehouse we've moved some

14:31 ↗ of our food and some of our warehouse

14:33 ↗ off-site so it's given us a little bit

14:35 ↗ more wiggle room in our current building

14:37 ↗ but now we're challenged having

14:39 ↗ operations in two different sites which

14:43 ↗ is not not easy right the quick question

14:47 ↗ for you

14:48 ↗ what is the number on top what does that

14:50 ↗ represent is that number of people

14:51 ↗ served number of transactions it's a

14:53 ↗ number of transactions so on a daily

14:55 ↗ basis let's see so this graph represents

15:00 ↗ our additional programs outside of our

15:02 ↗ food and clothing bank in programs that

15:05 ↗ we started in 2013 and what this is

15:10 ↗ telling us I'm sorry let me get scroll

15:13 ↗ down here

15:14 ↗ is that in 2013 we provided 2106 61

15:22 ↗ transactions in that in that year and in

15:26 ↗ 2017 we provided nine thousand five

15:29 ↗ hundred and thirty transactions and

15:31 ↗ that's a three hundred and forty-one

15:34 ↗ percent growth in just a four year

15:37 ↗ period of time

15:38 ↗ so although the daily operations of the

15:42 ↗ food bank isn't spiking at that same

15:44 ↗ rate our special program numbers

15:46 ↗ definitely are and all of these programs

15:48 ↗ that we've created during this time

15:50 ↗ period which includes summer lunch tools

15:53 ↗ for school holiday gift barn lunch for

15:56 ↗ the break power packs dental vans care

15:59 ↗ kits and groceries to go all require

16:03 ↗ space for bringing in product for

16:06 ↗ sorting and organizing product and then

16:09 ↗ redistributing product so I know these

16:14 ↗ just look like programs but if you can

16:16 ↗ think of this as like pallets of food at

16:20 ↗ any one given point in time

16:23 ↗ does that help that's great thank you

16:26 ↗ yeah so to be a little bit more specific

16:34 ↗ let's talk about our groceries to go

16:36 ↗ program this is one of our highly

16:38 ↗ effective like beneficial community

16:40 ↗ programs it also is requiring a lot of

16:43 ↗ space and you can think of groceries to

16:46 ↗ go as an Amazon fresh type program or a

16:49 ↗ Safeway grocery delivery program for

16:52 ↗ clients only all the products that you

16:54 ↗ receive are free from the food bank our

16:57 ↗ clients put in a weekly order and they

17:00 ↗ order items that they need and that they

17:02 ↗ will utilize in their households and

17:05 ↗ then we have volunteer shoppers who put

17:07 ↗ those groceries together on Monday

17:09 ↗ Tuesdays and Thursdays and then on

17:13 ↗ Tuesday Wednesday and Fridays we have a

17:15 ↗ whole separate group of volunteers that

17:17 ↗ deliver those groceries to people's

17:20 ↗ households we're currently delivering to

17:22 ↗ 70 households every single week

17:26 ↗ and groceries can include canned goods

17:28 ↗ dairy products produce and freezer items

17:32 ↗ such as meat most families who are

17:35 ↗ involved with this program or benefit

17:37 ↗ from this program are senior citizens or

17:39 ↗ people who have disabilities or families

17:42 ↗ with children who have severe

17:44 ↗ transportation barriers for those annual

17:47 ↗ is that is the x-axis years and if so

17:50 ↗ that looks like there's a big it's kind

17:52 ↗ of cut off there isn't it yes so the

17:55 ↗ blue is the hits are historical numbers

17:57 ↗ and we've grown this program an average

18:00 ↗ of 15% every year since we started it

18:03 ↗ and then yellow is just kind of what it

18:06 ↗ would look we project that this program

18:08 ↗ will continue growing 15% every year if

18:11 ↗ we had more facility space we definitely

18:15 ↗ think that there's even more of a need

18:16 ↗ now do you know why you had a untypical

18:20 ↗ growth last year it looks like it almost

18:22 ↗ doubled in one year I think a couple

18:29 ↗ things we we've accessed some more fund

18:33 ↗ additional funding sources so all of our

18:34 ↗ programs we've had an uptick in healthy

18:37 ↗ food options so I think that's attracted

18:41 ↗ a lot more people and we've done a

18:43 ↗ little bit more advertising with the

18:45 ↗ partners that we're working with I also

18:47 ↗ think that the need is growing

18:49 ↗ currently we we're kind of plateaued at

18:54 ↗ serving 70 households a week because our

18:56 ↗ space just really won't allow us to

19:00 ↗ support anymore growth and so I'll tell

19:03 ↗ you a little bit more about that so this

19:07 ↗ slide is to help paint the picture of

19:10 ↗ like what is 70 deliveries a week look

19:13 ↗ like for every family we deliver

19:19 ↗ groceries to we assume there's an

19:21 ↗ average of three grocery bags that go to

19:23 ↗ that household so two of those grocery

19:26 ↗ bags would be dry goods

19:28 ↗ so rice canned goods cereal stuff like

19:32 ↗ that and one of those grocery bags would

19:34 ↗ be can considered cold goods or a

19:37 ↗ refrigerated item

19:38 ↗ including freezer items so so on every

19:44 ↗ if on a typical delivery day we need a

19:47 ↗ spot for 46 dry goods and 23

19:51 ↗ refrigerator goods so if you can picture

19:54 ↗ your refrigerator at home or picture a

19:57 ↗ refrigerator at the grocery store 23

20:00 ↗ bags of groceries need to fit into that

20:03 ↗ refrigerator our refrigerator can fit

20:06 ↗ just that and that's all we can do and

20:08 ↗ we're doing that delivery three times a

20:11 ↗ week so additional storage is needed for

20:16 ↗ just sorting the food and then getting

20:19 ↗ the storing the food overnight and then

20:21 ↗ getting it out the very next day we're

20:25 ↗ trying to be a strategic as we can with

20:26 ↗ this program so that we can welcome more

20:28 ↗ individuals into it but they're just

20:31 ↗ small little fixes that we're currently

20:33 ↗ doing for right now this program needs a

20:36 ↗ significant amount more refrigerator

20:38 ↗ space that we just really don't have any

20:41 ↗ room in our current building to

20:43 ↗ accommodate the big walk-in refrigerator

20:45 ↗ and freezer that we have is full of

20:48 ↗ stuff for a day-to-day operation so this

20:50 ↗ requires additional refrigeration

20:52 ↗ outside of kind of typical daily

20:54 ↗ operations

21:02 ↗ another project program that is highly

21:05 ↗ successful and really needed in our

21:07 ↗ community is our summer lunch program

21:10 ↗ we've had a big jump in services in

21:13 ↗ summer lunch also because we started

21:17 ↗ being able to offer healthier food

21:19 ↗ options and Families really appreciate

21:21 ↗ that summer lunch is a program where we

21:24 ↗ distribute a week's worth of breakfast

21:26 ↗ lunch and snack items every single week

21:29 ↗ during the summer summer months when we

21:32 ↗ started this program back in 2011 we

21:35 ↗ averaged 75 distribution bags every

21:39 ↗ single week and in 2018 so this last

21:43 ↗ summer we averaged 300 bags every week

21:47 ↗ so we pretty easily could fit 75 bags

21:51 ↗ somewhere in the nooks and crannies of

21:53 ↗ our building in 2011 but 300 bags every

21:56 ↗ single week of the summer has been a

22:00 ↗ real stretch for us if you go into our

22:03 ↗ building on a Wednesday and see what the

22:06 ↗ space looks like it takes up all of our

22:07 ↗ shelves all of the floor in our program

22:10 ↗ room with two or three stacks of bags of

22:13 ↗ groceries on top of each other making it

22:16 ↗ really difficult to get any other work

22:18 ↗ done in that space so our current

22:23 ↗ operations as I said are expedience be

22:26 ↗ exceeding the space that we have as you

22:28 ↗ can see by this lovely food drive photo

22:30 ↗ that we have up here our building worked

22:34 ↗ when we had three employees a hundred

22:37 ↗ volunteers and brought in an average of

22:39 ↗ 60,000 pounds of food a month and all we

22:43 ↗ provided in our building was food and

22:45 ↗ clothing but our organization has been

22:49 ↗ reacting to the needs of our community

22:51 ↗ and stepping out and doing more than

22:52 ↗ just that and so today we have 10

22:56 ↗ employees we have 250 volunteers and we

23:00 ↗ bring in more than 85,000 pounds of

23:03 ↗ groceries donated groceries and food

23:05 ↗ every single month and we're providing

23:08 ↗ all those additional programs that I've

23:09 ↗ mentioned so given the growing need

23:14 ↗ if we stay as we are today with no

23:18 ↗ expansion that actually means that in

23:21 ↗ the future we'll be serving a smaller

23:23 ↗ percentage of the need than we have

23:26 ↗ right now and so as our population

23:29 ↗ increases the use of food bank services

23:32 ↗ is going to increase and the Issaquah

23:35 ↗ food and clothing bank has been working

23:37 ↗ on these space constraints for over

23:39 ↗ eight years this is a new conversation

23:42 ↗ amongst us and we feel like now is the

23:47 ↗ time to do something really different we

23:50 ↗ feel like we have a veteran staff we

23:55 ↗ have a board that a board of directors

23:57 ↗ that's super motivated and supportive we

24:00 ↗ have a really high degree of trust and a

24:04 ↗ good reputation in our community and we

24:08 ↗ feel like the need is pretty clear so

24:15 ↗ what would we do if we had expanded

24:17 ↗ space this is the exciting part we would

24:20 ↗ have a loading dock so we could get one

24:22 ↗ of our vehicles in a safe space

24:27 ↗ overnight and easy accessibility into

24:30 ↗ the building we would expand our

24:33 ↗ warehouse so that we could better manage

24:36 ↗ our inventory and food bank inventory is

24:40 ↗ very complicated as we rely heavily on

24:44 ↗ donations which change literally every

24:46 ↗ single day and to kind of help you

24:49 ↗ understand what that looks like we

24:51 ↗ distribute 400 boxes of cereal every

24:54 ↗ week if you think about how much space

24:57 ↗ that takes up and that definitely

24:58 ↗ doubles during the summer months because

25:00 ↗ kids love their cereal in the summer we

25:05 ↗ just have to manage like where that is

25:08 ↗ stored what's going to happen in three

25:10 ↗ weeks from now if we only have 50 boxes

25:13 ↗ right now how do we get that food into

25:15 ↗ the building how do we get it out to

25:16 ↗ people more space would help with that

25:19 ↗ as I've shared we definitely need more

25:21 ↗ refrigerator and freezer space our

25:24 ↗ clothing bank

25:26 ↗ is very small right now we just have a

25:30 ↗ small sorting room in a small space we

25:33 ↗ and we have no storage or inventory

25:36 ↗ space for clothing items so with a

25:38 ↗ bigger store we could easily double or

25:40 ↗ triple the output and offerings that we

25:43 ↗ give our community members we need

25:48 ↗ multiple private office spaces for case

25:51 ↗ management having people come in and

25:54 ↗ share their stories is very sensitive we

25:57 ↗ are one of the first places that people

25:59 ↗ come in to to access services and to

26:02 ↗ have a confidential quiet respectful

26:05 ↗ space for them to share their story is

26:07 ↗ really important right now we have one

26:09 ↗ case management office and it's in the

26:12 ↗ middle of the food bank and so people

26:14 ↗ have to if we're open they have to weave

26:16 ↗ through our food bank

26:17 ↗ hopefully not trip over a crate and have

26:20 ↗ a conversation with Rebecca we envision

26:26 ↗ having shared space with partners in our

26:29 ↗ community we think that as a community

26:32 ↗ we can increase efficiency and services

26:34 ↗ to food bank clients if they could

26:37 ↗ access more programs in one common space

26:41 ↗ and then like today we would like we

26:45 ↗ would envision ourselves using every

26:47 ↗ nook and cranny of a new building and we

26:50 ↗ would utilize a roof top for a garden so

26:54 ↗ that we can teach our clients how to

26:55 ↗ grow food on their own patios we'd also

26:58 ↗ grow food for our food bank so Elana is

27:04 ↗ gonna take it over from here but does

27:06 ↗ anybody have any questions or comments

27:09 ↗ for me I feel like it just shared a

27:11 ↗ whole lot of information that comes from

27:13 ↗ the hunt thanks on the second point the

27:17 ↗ expanded food warehouse in August I got

27:22 ↗ the opportunity to see the warehouse

27:24 ↗ space that was by the at work on June

27:27 ↗ yes and so I wondered if you could talk

27:29 ↗ about that and with the plans with that

27:31 ↗ how that fits into the expansion and

27:33 ↗ your plan for that space as well right

27:35 ↗ so that is a temporary fix

27:39 ↗ we felt like we wanted to start growing

27:42 ↗ our groceries to go program before we

27:45 ↗ had all of the perfect space in our

27:47 ↗ current building so we wanted to move

27:51 ↗ some stuff off-site so that we had just

27:53 ↗ some more room we've had so we're using

27:58 ↗ that warehouse space we think that it's

28:00 ↗ probably temporary a year or two years

28:02 ↗ so the vision is to have more of that

28:05 ↗ food back in one common building

28:07 ↗ eventually but we're using that as a

28:10 ↗ temporary fix because we just couldn't

28:13 ↗ do another holiday season in our current

28:16 ↗ building and we're hoping all of our

28:20 ↗ food donations go over there right now

28:21 ↗ we're shipping food back and forth as we

28:24 ↗ need it and it's it's been great it's

28:29 ↗ not solving all of our space challenges

28:32 ↗ though other questions right now okay

28:38 ↗ I'd like to hand it over to Atlanta

28:40 ↗ she's just going to share a little bit

28:41 ↗ more about the site visibility and some

28:44 ↗ construction

28:52 ↗ my name is Elena shoot I'm with OAC we

28:55 ↗ joined the team as a construction

28:58 ↗ management organization that is teamed

29:02 ↗ up with these great folks that are doing

29:04 ↗ all this great work and have a need and

29:06 ↗ we want to kind of look at what best

29:10 ↗ serves the need that they've identified

29:12 ↗ and so part of that was is the current

29:17 ↗ location the best space for the

29:19 ↗ expansion so over time and prior even to

29:23 ↗ always cease involvement there's been

29:26 ↗ we've looked at the team has looked at

29:29 ↗ other city-owned spaces as well as other

29:32 ↗ private public spaces and ultimately

29:35 ↗ keep coming back to the current location

29:39 ↗ for various reasons primarily

29:45 ↗ transportation and accessibility in

29:48 ↗ addition to community acceptance and so

29:52 ↗ their their current location is is

29:58 ↗ favorable from that from that

30:00 ↗ perspective and then as well as zoning

30:06 ↗ and in those sorts of needs that are

30:09 ↗ important in a development project so

30:12 ↗ we've worked really hard and we've got

30:14 ↗ we're serious about this we've worked

30:17 ↗ hard and taken the steps even to design

30:21 ↗ a building that would fit within the

30:24 ↗ space that we think is best in the

30:26 ↗ current location and and are happy I'm

30:30 ↗ happy to speak to that current design or

30:32 ↗ maybe that's best suited for another day

30:34 ↗ kind of whatever best fits your needs we

30:38 ↗ know that there's challenges whether at

30:40 ↗ the current site or a different location

30:43 ↗ and we're part of today is to start

30:46 ↗ identifying together what those

30:48 ↗ challenges are whether they be parking

30:51 ↗ which I know is a hot topic or we've

30:54 ↗ also talked internally just about you

30:59 ↗ know the surfaces and the

31:03 ↗ zoning as well different things that

31:06 ↗ we're going to have to work through in

31:09 ↗ any location but really focusing on the

31:12 ↗ current location is the best fit so we

31:20 ↗ talked a little bit about public transit

31:22 ↗ and community acceptance those are what

31:24 ↗ we as site selection have narrowed down

31:27 ↗ to the existing location and to address

31:32 ↗ a little bit your comment about the

31:33 ↗ warehouse space and how that work fits

31:35 ↗ in it may be that right now that's a

31:40 ↗ short-term solution that's required to

31:42 ↗ keep operating at the level that we are

31:44 ↗ there's a concern over the growing years

31:46 ↗ and the operation increases do we hang

31:50 ↗ on to that space and even into an

31:51 ↗ expansion is that is that a viable

31:54 ↗ option to keep that warehouse space

31:56 ↗ ideally we want to increase the flow and

32:00 ↗ food comes in and is an out faster so

32:02 ↗ that's less storage is required but

32:06 ↗ that's all part of this our our facility

32:10 ↗ committee is looking at the operations

32:12 ↗ and the how quickly we can serve growing

32:18 ↗ needs and insert more we've put together

32:24 ↗ I've put together a schedule and this is

32:26 ↗ less to kind of stunned folks with

32:31 ↗ specific months but more so to identify

32:37 ↗ what we're looking at in terms of

32:39 ↗ overall duration so this we're looking

32:45 ↗ at we're plugging in approximately nine

32:47 ↗ months of permitting for a project like

32:49 ↗ this in 14 months for a construction for

32:52 ↗ the current drawing set and this is only

32:54 ↗ to help identify that if we were to

32:57 ↗ start today which we know isn't the case

32:59 ↗ but if we were to start today work years

33:02 ↗ out from meeting the ever-growing needs

33:05 ↗ so we're just trying to help kind of put

33:07 ↗ a magnifier on that of wanting to we

33:11 ↗ understand that today is kind of the

33:12 ↗ first step of this process and working

33:14 ↗ together

33:15 ↗ how do we get to the and finish line so

33:25 ↗ I think the most important part to kind

33:27 ↗ of close with course and a great job of

33:28 ↗ introducing us introducing the need

33:31 ↗ having the conversation that has been

33:32 ↗ happening in the community for a long

33:34 ↗ time but kind of formalizing that plan

33:36 ↗ and this starts with and Emily

33:40 ↗ introduced it also at the beginning

33:43 ↗ we're looking to work with you on what

33:46 ↗ are the next steps we understand that

33:48 ↗ this is your property and the city's

33:50 ↗ property we're ready to we've already

33:56 ↗ started growing our project team we've

33:59 ↗ already started engaging campaign

34:01 ↗ capital campaign consultants there will

34:05 ↗ be a successful capital campaign that

34:08 ↗ will need to occur for the construction

34:10 ↗ to happen and you know we're advised we

34:15 ↗ can't do any of that until we have a

34:19 ↗ until we have a project and and so

34:22 ↗ identifying that we have a project is

34:25 ↗ identifying if the city just getting a

34:28 ↗ pull sign if if this location is

34:32 ↗ feasible from your perspective as the

34:35 ↗ property manager or the property owner I

34:37 ↗ should say and entering those kind of

34:41 ↗ lease agreement conversations and things

34:43 ↗ that need to happen before commitments

34:46 ↗ are made and and then we can engage

34:50 ↗ really start fine-tuning design and

34:52 ↗ engaging those sorts of teams so again

34:56 ↗ we're serious about this but we're also

34:58 ↗ sensitive to wanting to really have that

35:00 ↗ conversation and work through challenges

35:03 ↗ together so identifying some of these

35:06 ↗ next steps is you've you've heard the

35:09 ↗ need and so being prepared to answer

35:13 ↗ more questions about that create a

35:15 ↗ dialogue get feedback from you us to

35:20 ↗ kind of understand who we should start

35:21 ↗ flowing questions through

35:24 ↗ whether it's the council as a whole or

35:26 ↗ if their specific committees and not

35:30 ↗ necessarily looking for all the answers

35:31 ↗ today but these are some of the things

35:34 ↗ that that we're talking about and

35:36 ↗ wanting to bring to the forefront and I

35:42 ↗ I think we know there's a general

35:47 ↗ understanding of the need and so now

35:50 ↗ wanting to kind of move it to the next

35:52 ↗ level and looking to you guys for what

35:54 ↗ those next steps are council member

35:56 ↗ Ramos yeah getting some details but I

36:00 ↗ can give you some questions to think

36:01 ↗ little bit so we talked about a capital

36:04 ↗ campaign which you would need obviously

36:07 ↗ so what would size capital campaign and

36:10 ↗ how long do you think that would take if

36:11 ↗ you were going to pursue that so we have

36:16 ↗ some weeper we've consulted and thrown

36:19 ↗ out some rom pricing for the rough order

36:22 ↗ of magnitude pricing for the building as

36:24 ↗ designed hesitate a little bit to throw

36:27 ↗ dollars out there because we're working

36:32 ↗ on it but it's it's a large number we're

36:36 ↗ somewhere in the we're somewhere in the

36:40 ↗ ten million dollar range and Cory can

36:45 ↗ speak a little bit more to the

36:46 ↗ conversations that we've had with the

36:48 ↗ Ostara group who's the campaign

36:52 ↗ consultant group yeah as far as time to

36:55 ↗ get questionable so we we started

36:58 ↗ working with those star a fundraising

37:00 ↗ consulting firm but even before we

37:03 ↗ started working with Ostara

37:05 ↗ we knew we were heading in this

37:06 ↗ direction a year ago and hired a

37:09 ↗ development director to help us lay a

37:11 ↗ really good foundation for fundraising

37:13 ↗ for our organization o Stara and the

37:16 ↗ food bank will be going out this month

37:18 ↗ doing donor stakeholder interviews so

37:21 ↗ we're gonna get a better picture on what

37:24 ↗ our donor base thinks that the food bank

37:27 ↗ can raise do they think this is a good

37:29 ↗ project do they think that it's needed

37:33 ↗ then from the information we gather from

37:35 ↗ those stakeholder donor interviews we

37:38 ↗ should have a better idea on time frame

37:41 ↗ and this research will also include like

37:45 ↗ what grants we should apply for

37:47 ↗ definitely this is going to take a

37:49 ↗ couple years but we should know more for

37:53 ↗ sure and we can bring that information

37:54 ↗ back to you in November and once we have

37:57 ↗ a good report from from our deeper dive

38:00 ↗ in our analysis here thank you and I

38:03 ↗ would add to that that will be phased so

38:06 ↗ we don't need all the money upfront just

38:09 ↗ kick the project off there be phases

38:11 ↗ where get to a milestone to fund design

38:14 ↗ we get to a milestone to fund start a

38:16 ↗ construction etc so it's not all at once

38:18 ↗ it runs concurrently we're still working

38:21 ↗ on that scheduling in those durations

38:22 ↗ and what those milestones are

38:25 ↗ councilmember hunt

38:27 ↗ so in our memo there's a question

38:30 ↗ identified the first one what does the

38:32 ↗ current zoning allow in this location

38:33 ↗ I'm interested in that but I think more

38:36 ↗ specifically I'm interested in what do

38:39 ↗ you anticipate meeting as deviations

38:41 ↗ from the current zoning for this if you

38:43 ↗ if you do anticipate that and it sounded

38:46 ↗ like you have a design in mind with at

38:49 ↗ least some specifics we do so currently

38:54 ↗ we've got some we've got a height Jim's

38:57 ↗ it's correct me if pardon

39:05 ↗ well and that was just confirmed within

39:08 ↗ the last week or so through Emily we've

39:10 ↗ confirmed that initially we thought that

39:12 ↗ there was a height that the the proposed

39:17 ↗ construction would be taller than

39:19 ↗ allowed which is now okay which is part

39:23 ↗ of where we feel more comfortable in the

39:27 ↗ current space even with potential

39:30 ↗ changes to the old town area area yes

39:36 ↗ thank you yeah

39:39 ↗ outside of that yeah it's just the

39:46 ↗ parking and then we've got some

39:47 ↗ impermeable surfaces as well cuz

39:50 ↗ remember rumbles you just followed maybe

39:52 ↗ Emily you can talk on that I know

39:53 ↗ there's been some discussions and some

39:54 ↗ of the Committees of you know

39:56 ↗ limitations of two storey versus three

39:58 ↗ storey in Old Town and I haven't been up

40:00 ↗ on those conversations last week or so

40:02 ↗ so maybe you could address where those

40:04 ↗ are now because this is three storey and

40:06 ↗ I thought was a two storey area I

40:08 ↗ believe it's consistent with where that

40:10 ↗ sub area plan review is headed but well

40:15 ↗ we'll know more as they do a little more

40:18 ↗ pre design work in terms of exact number

40:21 ↗ of feet each of the stories would take

40:24 ↗ but it looks like it's where they're

40:27 ↗ headed is consistent with where sub area

40:30 ↗ plan will will land but of course it

40:32 ↗ hasn't been adopted yet come from over

40:36 ↗ array so in the interest of time you

40:37 ↗ don't even have to answer these

40:38 ↗ questions but these are ones to take

40:39 ↗ away and ponder first since the city

40:41 ↗ owns the land and the current building

40:43 ↗ and the food bank food and clothing bank

40:47 ↗ and your potential donors are gonna make

40:50 ↗ a submission a significant investment in

40:52 ↗ it how do we deal with the ownership of

40:54 ↗ that property and that structure that's

40:56 ↗ number one for you number two is what

41:00 ↗ happens to the top eration is during the

41:03 ↗ construction period so that we can still

41:06 ↗ continue to do the great work that you

41:07 ↗ guys do so that's number two number

41:10 ↗ three what's the liability to the city

41:12 ↗ since it's a city building and

41:14 ↗ land during the construction period and

41:16 ↗ then number four is given the timeline

41:19 ↗ that you laid out which has got a you

41:21 ↗ know best case were three years away and

41:23 ↗ there's no question that you have

41:24 ↗ significant need today is there another

41:27 ↗ way to move forward with to meet your

41:31 ↗ needs that doesn't involve a large

41:34 ↗ renovation of the current building and

41:36 ↗ other sites stuff to think about and all

41:45 ↗ questions we've started we've started

41:47 ↗ conversations about - so good to know

41:49 ↗ that we're asking the same things so and

41:54 ↗ I realized we don't want to go into

41:56 ↗ maybe probably don't want to go into

41:58 ↗ particular designs today but if the

42:00 ↗ current building is one story tall it's

42:02 ↗ about five thousand square feet

42:03 ↗ couldn't you just go with the current

42:06 ↗ footprint and go to three stories and

42:08 ↗ have get to 15,000 square feet that you

42:10 ↗ need okay okay somehow I thought that

42:15 ↗ there was talk of a larger footprint or

42:17 ↗ something like same footprint I mean a

42:21 ↗ full demo of the existing building for

42:24 ↗ structural reasons and different things

42:25 ↗ and then but the same footprint which is

42:28 ↗ essentially maximized three I'm sorry

42:31 ↗ three stories dot it okay other

42:34 ↗ questions right now

42:36 ↗ Tom's member Goodman is there any

42:39 ↗ thought to the food bank owning that

42:42 ↗ piece of land or is that one of it yet

42:46 ↗ so I think we're open to having a

42:48 ↗ conversation with the city yes yeah now

42:52 ↗ is there that one parcel with building

42:56 ↗ on the same parcel shared by another

42:58 ↗ organization

42:59 ↗ yeah the Historical Society owns the

43:02 ↗ building adjacent separate parcel to

43:06 ↗ separate parcel okay

43:10 ↗ other questions looks like we're set

43:15 ↗ from the question the same point I can't

43:17 ↗ uh City Administrator moon did you have

43:20 ↗ something that I'm just wondering if

43:22 ↗ there are any comments tonight about

43:24 ↗ desired next step sure so I'll I'll ask

43:29 ↗ since we have both the chair and Landon

43:31 ↗ Shore and services and safety all right

43:33 ↗ we're fortunate enough to have both of

43:34 ↗ them here is this something that we want

43:37 ↗ to have come back to full council or is

43:40 ↗ this something that we think should come

43:41 ↗ back to one of the committee's did you

43:42 ↗ on and I'll ask councilmember Goodman

43:45 ↗ first I would I think I would prefer

43:52 ↗ well council we kept in the loop for a

43:54 ↗ little bit at a point where it seems

43:58 ↗ like it would make more sense to go just

43:59 ↗ to a committee I don't mean just to a

44:01 ↗ committee but with three members of the

44:03 ↗ council it seems like a big not a big

44:06 ↗ topic so if I'm hearing right you'd

44:08 ↗ rather have something a firmer proposal

44:11 ↗ plan draft plan before sending it out to

44:15 ↗ committee and that the next time he came

44:17 ↗ back could come back to full Council is

44:19 ↗ that am i hearing that right or a work

44:21 ↗ session oh sorry yeah but before we send

44:25 ↗ it off to a committee of three I think I

44:27 ↗ think we owe it to the folks involved to

44:29 ↗ let them you know talk about bringing

44:31 ↗ the rest of the council members along so

44:33 ↗ that it doesn't go to committee before

44:34 ↗ it's more formed or vetted so there are

44:39 ↗ no surprises got it or you know the

44:43 ↗ bigger chances there won't be any big

44:45 ↗ surprises if it comes back to the full

44:47 ↗ council which would then be the majority

44:50 ↗ I'll ask councilman bere who might be an

44:54 ↗ alternate potential path on this one if

44:56 ↗ he agrees with that I'm okay it sounds

44:59 ↗ to me like we're we still got a ton of

45:01 ↗ work to do to get to the path forward

45:04 ↗ and the only reason I'm gonna you

45:08 ↗ actually come up with a third

45:09 ↗ alternative another reason I would have

45:11 ↗ a some sub subgroup deal with it so we

45:14 ↗ can move more quickly

45:15 ↗ have more conversation so a group of

45:19 ↗ three or two members of the council it

45:22 ↗ doesn't even have to be a committee but

45:24 ↗ it can be an ad-hoc group who can can

45:26 ↗ work with the the food and clothing bank

45:29 ↗ to really understand the problem and

45:30 ↗ explore these things to me is a much

45:33 ↗ more nimble approach than working within

45:36 ↗ our current committee structure all

45:39 ↗ right well I think what well I

45:43 ↗ that's ponder this little further comes

45:47 ↗ with members hunter Ramos thoughts I

45:53 ↗ think okay

45:55 ↗ I think so usually we we do go into a

46:00 ↗ lot of detail discussion and the

46:02 ↗ committee and I don't know at this point

46:04 ↗ it sounds like it's a bit earlier stage

46:09 ↗ and so I think I'm I would be

46:15 ↗ comfortable keeping it at the at the

46:19 ↗ full council committee level or a full

46:21 ↗ council level until it has more detail

46:26 ↗ for us to discuss in the coming yes I

46:29 ↗ agree with customer Goodman that I think

46:32 ↗ until we get kind of conceptual

46:33 ↗ agreement that we all could involvement

46:37 ↗ this is a lot of a lot of stuff to go do

46:38 ↗ yet and I think there's a lot of support

46:41 ↗ but there are a lot of things to work

46:44 ↗ out so okay it'd be a little bit better

46:46 ↗ way but I guess I'm okay if council

46:49 ↗ member Ray had stomped his feet and said

46:51 ↗ no it must come to services then I then

46:53 ↗ I would be willing to entertain that but

46:55 ↗ in the absence of that I think

46:56 ↗ councilmember Goodman suggestion to keep

46:58 ↗ it at the full seven for now until we

47:00 ↗ have something a little bit more

47:02 ↗ specific in mind is is sounds like the

47:05 ↗ will of the body

47:06 ↗ any questions city administrator or is

47:10 ↗ there anything else you're looking from

47:11 ↗ us for this evening on this subject no I

47:15 ↗ think staff will huddle with food bank

47:18 ↗ partners and and talk through sort of

47:21 ↗ what information we might be able to

47:23 ↗ package up

47:23 ↗ bring back to you and then we'll need to

47:25 ↗ discuss kind of a timeline for doing

47:27 ↗ that given that next a couple of months

47:30 ↗ are pretty burdened with budget

47:32 ↗ conversations so we may get creative

47:35 ↗ about how we start to share information

47:39 ↗ all right anything else from counsel

47:41 ↗ before we move on to the next ID oh I'm

47:44 ↗ so thank you very much

47:46 ↗ I want to offer public comment if

47:48 ↗ anybody wants three minutes to speak to

47:50 ↗ us on the subject before we move on it

47:52 ↗ would be welcome to take that it's nice

47:59 ↗ having several former council members in

48:01 ↗ the room tonight it really represents

48:03 ↗ some we loved telling me what do the

48:08 ↗ three story issue is not on that side

48:11 ↗ it's in the residential area we got a

48:13 ↗ nice big green in space between that

48:16 ↗ already known commercial restaurant

48:19 ↗ office area so I don't see any problem

48:22 ↗ with the three story at the present

48:24 ↗ location keeping the the process public

48:29 ↗ is good and I think build confidence and

48:33 ↗ support out there I think that can

48:35 ↗ happen especially given that location

48:38 ↗ and you know it's seems to work a little

48:43 ↗ concerned about the expansion of

48:44 ↗ groceries to go my wife already spends

48:46 ↗ too much time getting the books ready

48:48 ↗ for that and tripling that it's gonna be

48:50 ↗ quite a challenge we'll work it out

48:53 ↗ thank you so much for your comments

48:55 ↗ there anyone else from the public

48:57 ↗ wishing to speak tonight anyone else all

49:01 ↗ right we'll move on thank you again this

49:05 ↗ week with food and clothing bank for

49:07 ↗ joining us this evening

49:09 ↗ we will move to id0 349 Eastside fire

49:13 ↗ and rescue budget overview with Jeff

49:15 ↗ Clark chief of Eastside Fire & Rescue

49:17 ↗ chief thank you thank you I'll get this

49:28 ↗ set up and then all right can you hear

49:44 ↗ me okay mm-hmm all right first of all

49:46 ↗ thank you for the invitation to come and

49:48 ↗ speak with you I'm excited to have this

49:51 ↗ conversation and present the proposed

49:53 ↗ our first proposed two-year budget to

49:55 ↗ you from East Side as you know last year

49:58 ↗ we set in part of our strategic plan to

50:00 ↗ set a two-year budget cycle so we've

50:03 ↗ been successful to date and actually on

50:05 ↗ Thursday night re4 board as a whole will

50:07 ↗ be considering the budget what I

50:09 ↗ explained in the memo that I sent out

50:11 ↗ with your packet what you have in front

50:13 ↗ of you is a conglomeration a summary of

50:15 ↗ a lot of the presentations we gave you

50:17 ↗ do not have everything I'll be happy to

50:19 ↗ answer any questions you have though as

50:21 ↗ we go through the process here so first

50:23 ↗ of all I pulled out the compare of

50:25 ↗ comparisons let's see which screen is it

50:27 ↗ this one okay I pulled out the

50:30 ↗ comparisons that applied it to Issaquah

50:32 ↗ so first this is a something we do every

50:35 ↗ year now we compare to our the

50:40 ↗ comparable areas in King County Sonoma

50:43 ↗ Snohomish and Pierce County how we're

50:46 ↗ doing as an agency and it's very

50:47 ↗ difficult to compare apples to apples

50:49 ↗ what we're looking at is strictly

50:51 ↗ operating budget contributions okay for

50:53 ↗ this set of slides and as you can see

50:55 ↗ when you look at other types of regional

51:00 ↗ consortiums okay they're either RFA's

51:02 ↗ fire districts contract cities or in our

51:05 ↗ case the only ila form work from an a/v

51:09 ↗ perspective we're doing good from cost

51:13 ↗ per capita in order to break down AV is

51:14 ↗ one measure and if you're in a high

51:16 ↗ value area like we tend to be assessed

51:18 ↗ valuation so I'm sorry coming

51:21 ↗ from Arizona a V was never on the radar

51:24 ↗ we didn't look at thing when I got up

51:25 ↗ here to Washington realized everything

51:27 ↗ from a tax perspective is based on a

51:29 ↗ suspects Oh quickly became everytime I

51:32 ↗ met a new chief from an RFA or something

51:33 ↗ he said Oh what's your AV what's your

51:35 ↗ you know and I I had to become a quick

51:37 ↗ study on what that means so if we were

51:39 ↗ an RFA or some form like that are

51:40 ↗ equivalent right now would be 78 cents a

51:43 ↗ baby to operate on the operating budget

51:46 ↗ compared to snow one which is the most

51:48 ↗ expensive which is two dollars and sixty

51:49 ↗ cents and but I just want to mention in

51:51 ↗ case anybody at home might be panicking

51:53 ↗ yes that's per thousand assessed that is

51:56 ↗ per thousand you're correct sir and and

51:59 ↗ what I was saying before when comparison

52:01 ↗ I don't like just using AV because AV if

52:05 ↗ you're in a higher AV area where you're

52:07 ↗ assessed valuation is higher it looks

52:09 ↗ really good but it doesn't mean the

52:11 ↗ dollar are the dollars any better which

52:12 ↗ is really hard to tell so that's why we

52:14 ↗ look at the next one which is cost per

52:16 ↗ capita so per citizen living in our

52:19 ↗ service area what are we paying when you

52:22 ↗ translate that operating dollars in AV

52:24 ↗ to a cost per capita and you can see the

52:26 ↗ comparison here the one thing I'll note

52:28 ↗ you'll notice on a couple of these

52:29 ↗ metrics this South King actually comes

52:31 ↗ out a little bit better than a South

52:32 ↗ King is the Federal Way area way down

52:34 ↗ south it's a department is probably

52:38 ↗ about the size of ours maybe a little

52:40 ↗ bigger in a higher volume area and there

52:43 ↗ there AV tends to be a little bit lower

52:45 ↗ there but they got hit tremendously hard

52:48 ↗ in 2009 with the crash that occurred

52:51 ↗ they did layoffs and they're in the

52:53 ↗ process of hiring more people there

52:55 ↗ their fleet is not fully funded their

52:57 ↗ capital plan is not fully funded we're

52:59 ↗ we're fully funded on both so but just

53:02 ↗ just you'll know there is a difference

53:04 ↗ in demographics when we look at it this

53:06 ↗ is an important metric to our board one

53:08 ↗ of the marching orders that I received

53:09 ↗ when I first walked through the door was

53:11 ↗ that we be as efficient as possible and

53:12 ↗ when it comes to full-time employees

53:13 ↗ equivalent employees that we keep things

53:16 ↗ as minimal as possible moving forward

53:18 ↗ and you'll see we're staying the same

53:19 ↗ 106 1.06 per thousand is is exactly

53:24 ↗ where we were last year is where we are

53:26 ↗ this year and with the with the budget

53:28 ↗ that we're proposing

53:29 ↗ we're staying the same and then if

53:34 ↗ in zone 1 now zone 1 the fire service is

53:36 ↗ broken into up into three zones in King

53:38 ↗ County zone one is everything that's

53:41 ↗ basically north of i90 and east of

53:44 ↗ Seattle ok so we took those cities and

53:47 ↗ plugged in e4 on the same metrics that

53:49 ↗ we showed and then I believe my next

53:51 ↗ slide breaks it down into our partner

53:52 ↗ cities which are Issaquah Sammamish and

53:54 ↗ North Bend breaks it down so he looks at

53:57 ↗ your operating contributions when it

53:59 ↗ comes to a V compared to all of the

54:00 ↗ other cities in our zone and our zone

54:03 ↗ from my from a contribution standpoint

54:06 ↗ is gonna be very similar the Avs are

54:07 ↗ gonna be closer to each other than when

54:09 ↗ we compare ourselves to zone 3 which is

54:10 ↗ south county so it's it's a more

54:13 ↗ equivalent view of comparing the

54:15 ↗ services we provide on the operating

54:17 ↗ side same thing with FTE per population

54:21 ↗ you'll see that we as efer leads the

54:24 ↗ zone this is a FTE is not practical to

54:27 ↗ break down by our partner cities it

54:30 ↗ needs to stay at the organizational

54:32 ↗ level and then when you look at our cost

54:35 ↗ per capita you can see across the board

54:37 ↗ and I'll let you read that same thing

54:42 ↗ with cost per capita when you look at

54:43 ↗ our three partners three of our five

54:46 ↗ partners yes sir so and yet I get

54:49 ↗ there's some differences any thoughts on

54:52 ↗ why we're fifty percent higher per

54:55 ↗ capita than Sammamish the the biggest

54:58 ↗ reason is you're around thirty to thirty

55:00 ↗ three thousand people and they're around

55:01 ↗ sixty two thousand people you have a

55:04 ↗ much higher call volume here the

55:06 ↗ demographics in this city compared to

55:08 ↗ Sammamish oh sure just don't match up

55:10 ↗ and and they they can serve as sixty two

55:12 ↗ thousand people for some reason with

55:14 ↗ fewer resources than what it takes to

55:16 ↗ service Issaquah

55:17 ↗ I've spoken Sammamish a number of times

55:19 ↗ on that so it's a strange anomaly for

55:21 ↗ sixty two thousand people to generate as

55:23 ↗ little as it does from around the

55:25 ↗ country but that's all I can answer for

55:27 ↗ you got it all right thank you you bet

55:30 ↗ oops skipped one there all right and

55:33 ↗ then and this is just a quick a summary

55:36 ↗ as we could do we started this one last

55:37 ↗ year this simply looks at other three

55:39 ↗ station comparable cities or

55:42 ↗ jurisdictions within our zone within

55:44 ↗ zone one and what they pay for their

55:47 ↗ operating budget only versus what what

55:50 ↗ is Qantas managed right now this is all

55:51 ↗ 2018 we wanted to compare apples to

55:53 ↗ apples so this is our current budget

55:55 ↗ this does not include what we're

55:57 ↗ proposing because we don't know what

55:58 ↗ everyone else is proposing as far as

56:00 ↗ moving forward either but well you'll

56:02 ↗ get those numbers next year obviously

56:04 ↗ and then this this was something we

56:08 ↗ started last year as well this is

56:09 ↗ comparison comparing our our annual

56:13 ↗ average increase to our budget our

56:16 ↗ operating budget compared to what the

56:18 ↗ city's looking at your city's comparable

56:21 ↗ budget increase on operating side what

56:23 ↗ that is amortized over now this is

56:25 ↗ looking at operating budget on the on

56:27 ↗ the books and do the three cities that's

56:30 ↗ over six years I don't know what your

56:32 ↗ proposed stuff is for this year this

56:34 ↗ includes the two years that we're

56:35 ↗ looking at for cement for yfir so this

56:37 ↗ is over eight years for this so I saw

56:39 ↗ some quizzical looks we would average

56:42 ↗ six percent annual growth and our

56:45 ↗ ratings expenditures over eight years

56:48 ↗ each of the last eight years so

56:50 ↗ technically for you guys it's over six

56:52 ↗ because the last two years of this

56:54 ↗ includes 19 and 20 because I have 19 and

56:56 ↗ 20 data for yfir okay but the next slide

57:00 ↗ let's see what I have this is what I

57:01 ↗ have for each of you when we went over

57:04 ↗ this last year we had the city managers

57:06 ↗ in the city managers and our budget

57:09 ↗ folks in Issaquah you would add your

57:10 ↗ budget director in there last year we

57:12 ↗ showed this slide and explain how how we

57:14 ↗ got to this all we did was open up your

57:16 ↗ operating budget grab the operating

57:18 ↗ number and we took out some if there's

57:21 ↗ capital or if there's a transfer in of

57:24 ↗ funds we took that out and just looked

57:26 ↗ at just year-over-year your operating

57:28 ↗ piece okay and here's what we have and

57:30 ↗ we I did not have to update these

57:33 ↗ numbers for this year because 19 and 20

57:34 ↗ are not published yet so these are this

57:36 ↗ is still for you it's the same numbers I

57:39 ↗ presented last year all right and

57:41 ↗ obviously if there's a if there's a

57:43 ↗ change in any of this we'll gladly

57:45 ↗ change it but it prompted a lot of

57:47 ↗ conversation which was at what it was

57:48 ↗ meant to do in order to compare coming

57:51 ↗ in from outside I wanted to get an idea

57:53 ↗ of what your operating cost increase

57:55 ↗ look like and this has to do with where

57:57 ↗ you

57:58 ↗ basa fight in your budget at the end so

58:00 ↗ I think I mean I think one has to be

58:02 ↗ careful with this because yes as I think

58:03 ↗ about it you know we've continued like

58:06 ↗ as a city it's a quota that's grown

58:08 ↗ deputy rapidly over that same time frame

58:10 ↗ huh

58:11 ↗ whereas I don't I mean I don't know as a

58:14 ↗ whole if efer has grown you know if you

58:17 ↗ were to if you were to put this on a per

58:19 ↗ capita might it might not look so stark

58:22 ↗ because you might end and this was not

58:28 ↗ intended to look stark I mean I

58:29 ↗ completely understand your perspective

58:31 ↗ this was intended if I'm if I'm asking

58:34 ↗ for 3.6 percent and all three of the

58:36 ↗ cities were down at one and a half and

58:37 ↗ two percent I would be doing an internal

58:39 ↗ check saying we're asking for way too

58:41 ↗ much all right when we're at 3.6 percent

58:44 ↗ and I see that that our partner cities

58:46 ↗ are in this this range it gives me a

58:48 ↗ barometer that okay I'm not outside of

58:50 ↗ the ballpark this is how we started it

58:52 ↗ last year yeah I mean the point should

58:53 ↗ almost be like smear off the specific

58:55 ↗ numbers for a second the point is that

58:57 ↗ you're asking for less than any of the

58:59 ↗ cities and yes which just means that

59:01 ↗ we're in actually even even easier than

59:03 ↗ that the point is is that for as the

59:05 ↗ administrator I'm just not asking for

59:07 ↗ something that's out of the ballpark

59:09 ↗ okay and this is a comparison that we

59:10 ↗ showed to the fact and talk through

59:12 ↗ morons in more specifics last year this

59:14 ↗ year it really didn't we showed the

59:15 ↗ numbers but the conversation we didn't

59:17 ↗ dig into okay okay thanks good all right

59:22 ↗ so now getting into the specific budget

59:24 ↗ for this year and I'm really sorry that

59:26 ↗ the councilmember winter Stein isn't

59:28 ↗ here because last year he had some

59:30 ↗ questions that I still remember so I

59:31 ↗ might bring him up a couple times just

59:33 ↗ just to put it on the record but first

59:36 ↗ of all with revenue our revenue did

59:39 ↗ change a little bit in our projections

59:41 ↗ and I want to explain just a few key

59:43 ↗ points I'm not going to go over all of

59:44 ↗ these with you so first of all there's

59:46 ↗ no Kwame tribe the Snoqualmie tribe

59:48 ↗ we've actually had a service contract

59:49 ↗ with for a few years now and you'll see

59:52 ↗ in 2018 that the revenue from the tribe

59:54 ↗ is zeroed out as far as our budget was

59:56 ↗ concerned at the board level we did not

59:59 ↗ count that tribe money as revenue we did

1:00:01 ↗ bring it in and we did set it aside

1:00:04 ↗ essentially to fund the liability fund

1:00:06 ↗ and - which is a which is a fund that we

1:00:09 ↗ have one time

1:00:10 ↗ and that we have in the budget but it

1:00:12 ↗ would we decided not to count it as

1:00:14 ↗ revenue we basically treated as in fund

1:00:16 ↗ balance and make sure that our

1:00:17 ↗ contingency funds are funded before we

1:00:19 ↗ get into the budget here this year

1:00:21 ↗ however I'm recommending that that the

1:00:23 ↗ tribe money come back into and be

1:00:25 ↗ counted in our revenue on the budget

1:00:27 ↗ that's why you see an increase there the

1:00:29 ↗ reason that I'm recommending that is the

1:00:31 ↗ line GMT the third from the bottom of

1:00:33 ↗ the top there that is a new revenue line

1:00:35 ↗ there was a state law that passed a

1:00:37 ↗ couple of years well about two years ago

1:00:39 ↗ it's being implemented now this has to

1:00:43 ↗ do with Medicaid patients and transports

1:00:45 ↗ and it increases our revenue our ability

1:00:48 ↗ to collect revenue from the Medicaid

1:00:50 ↗ system we plug seventy-five thousand

1:00:53 ↗ dollars in we hired a consultant this

1:00:55 ↗ year we plug seventy-five thousand

1:00:56 ↗ dollars for the next two years we

1:00:58 ↗ actually think that has potential to be

1:00:59 ↗ as high as six hundred thousand dollars

1:01:01 ↗ until I see real money coming in though

1:01:03 ↗ I don't want to project that it's

1:01:04 ↗ actually coming in so that's six hundred

1:01:06 ↗ thousand dollars essentially we'll sit

1:01:08 ↗ we're not spending it it will sit in the

1:01:10 ↗ ending fund balance if we get to 19 and

1:01:13 ↗ we at the end of 19 we actually

1:01:14 ↗ collected six hundred thousand dollars

1:01:16 ↗ then it will first go to make sure our

1:01:19 ↗ contingencies are funded properly with

1:01:21 ↗ on this budget January 1st our

1:01:22 ↗ contingencies will be a hundred percent

1:01:24 ↗ funded in 19 at the end of 19 if there's

1:01:27 ↗ still 100 percent funded the board will

1:01:29 ↗ have a decision to make with what to do

1:01:31 ↗ with that revenue that's not a decision

1:01:32 ↗ that I or my staff are gonna make we

1:01:34 ↗ won't have the authority to spend it and

1:01:35 ↗ once we know what that real number is

1:01:37 ↗ we'll figure out how to budget properly

1:01:39 ↗ moving forward and most likely while the

1:01:41 ↗ table will do my recommendation is going

1:01:42 ↗ to be if we feel good with the $600,000

1:01:45 ↗ number will plug $600,000 in the

1:01:47 ↗ out-years and and just continue down

1:01:49 ↗ that path it also depends on how long

1:01:51 ↗ that funding stream is gonna last by

1:01:52 ↗ state law it's not going to change as

1:01:54 ↗ far as what we do but if the feds ever

1:01:56 ↗ change the way they fund this and we're

1:01:58 ↗ only I think we're the third state to

1:02:00 ↗ get into this if all 50 states get into

1:02:02 ↗ this funding stream I do not believe the

1:02:04 ↗ federal government's going to be able to

1:02:05 ↗ afford to keep paying it so we'll have

1:02:07 ↗ to we'll watch the subject but that's

1:02:08 ↗ why you see a difference there and then

1:02:11 ↗ there's a note at the bottom we're

1:02:12 ↗ currently conducting a pilot study

1:02:14 ↗ through March for reimbursement of motor

1:02:17 ↗ vehicle accidents we're not counting any

1:02:19 ↗ of that revenue because we have not

1:02:20 ↗ counted out as a

1:02:22 ↗ program we're just parking that again in

1:02:25 ↗ fun balance and that will be decided

1:02:27 ↗ once we decide what we're gonna do with

1:02:28 ↗ the program we're only expecting up to

1:02:31 ↗ maybe a quarter million two hundred

1:02:33 ↗ fifty thousand in that and I don't think

1:02:34 ↗ we're gonna hit that mark by March but

1:02:36 ↗ that's the number that's plugged right

1:02:37 ↗ now so outside of that the revenue

1:02:41 ↗ projections have stayed largely the same

1:02:43 ↗ as when and you'll note this was

1:02:45 ↗ presented on July fifth they have

1:02:47 ↗ changed some of the numbers have tweaked

1:02:48 ↗ a little bit but largely it stayed

1:02:49 ↗ pretty similar you have what happened

1:02:51 ↗ this tomorrow a.m. art that the a.m. art

1:02:55 ↗ contract for all of Zone one Eastside

1:02:59 ↗ manages a contract for AMR in that

1:03:01 ↗ contract there is a reimbursement rate

1:03:04 ↗ to the contract administrator and that

1:03:06 ↗ rug that right now that totals 207 they

1:03:08 ↗ have asked to renegotiate we started

1:03:11 ↗ renegotiating with them in March it's

1:03:13 ↗ very clear that that funding stream is

1:03:16 ↗ going to go away that 207 it has not yet

1:03:19 ↗ but by the end of 18 I fully expect it

1:03:22 ↗ to so we just wanted to plan for the

1:03:24 ↗ amenity that that goes away rather than

1:03:27 ↗ hope that we're gonna be able to save it

1:03:28 ↗ if we're able to save it in negotiations

1:03:30 ↗ I know we won't save all of it

1:03:31 ↗ well obviously we'll plug that number in

1:03:33 ↗ moving forward but we wanted a plan for

1:03:35 ↗ the worst-case scenario with that if

1:03:37 ↗ frankly we don't use AMR near as much as

1:03:39 ↗ we used to and after January I'm not

1:03:43 ↗ sure we're gonna be that I'll be

1:03:45 ↗ recommending that we're the lead agency

1:03:46 ↗ for negotiate in that contract either I

1:03:48 ↗ think we probably need to get out of the

1:03:50 ↗ way of that administration run our

1:03:51 ↗ business the way we're running it and

1:03:52 ↗ we'll let one of the other entities deal

1:03:54 ↗ with it any other questions on revenues

1:03:56 ↗ report so that's question it's on

1:03:59 ↗ because I've never been on the eve

1:04:01 ↗ report so how how do you do it like how

1:04:04 ↗ do you keep I mean these numbers are we

1:04:07 ↗ tell a really strong story in terms of

1:04:09 ↗ sort of efficiency of your delivery

1:04:12 ↗ model like why is e for so much more

1:04:15 ↗ efficient than all the other like we

1:04:17 ↗ always we often time to compare

1:04:19 ↗ ourselves to like Redmond and what we've

1:04:21 ↗ been doing and we're like a we're just

1:04:23 ↗ light years ahead of them this I'm gonna

1:04:24 ↗ go bragh - Hank next time I see him def

1:04:26 ↗ please do

1:04:28 ↗ work so well I'm I have to I came in in

1:04:32 ↗ the middle of this the first the first

1:04:33 ↗ place where credit needs to go is that

1:04:35 ↗ you've had five government local

1:04:36 ↗ government entities that decided to get

1:04:38 ↗ together and rather than base your

1:04:40 ↗ organization on a funding stream like

1:04:42 ↗ saying RFA or a Fire District does which

1:04:44 ↗ is a property tax where they basically

1:04:46 ↗ get to budget towards well this is the

1:04:49 ↗ amount of money we can collect on

1:04:50 ↗ property taxes so let's budget to that

1:04:51 ↗ number which you had the foresight to do

1:04:53 ↗ back in 1999 was put together a

1:04:56 ↗ interlocal agreement that holds each

1:04:58 ↗ other accountable put together a board

1:05:00 ↗ of directors of the elected officials of

1:05:02 ↗ those five and hold the organization

1:05:04 ↗ accountable and you set a parameter for

1:05:06 ↗ efficiency being one of the reasons you

1:05:09 ↗ move forward to provide a quality

1:05:10 ↗ service but be efficient I think it's

1:05:12 ↗ because you hold each other accountable

1:05:13 ↗ now now I came in two and a half years

1:05:16 ↗ ago and as part of the recruitment

1:05:17 ↗ process and anybody who switched jobs

1:05:19 ↗ understand you look at a recruitment

1:05:21 ↗ flyer and you you study and you have

1:05:22 ↗ conversations and you make sure that

1:05:24 ↗ your personality is the right fit for

1:05:25 ↗ the organization and frankly since

1:05:28 ↗ getting here I found out that my

1:05:30 ↗ personality is the right fit for the

1:05:31 ↗ organization and the staff that we have

1:05:32 ↗ and part of what the marching orders I

1:05:35 ↗ received from the board has been is that

1:05:36 ↗ hey we want to continue to provide a

1:05:38 ↗ quality service but we want to do it as

1:05:39 ↗ an efficient way possible when we did

1:05:42 ↗ these comparisons I don't think anyone

1:05:43 ↗ knew where we landed this is something

1:05:44 ↗ that that I brought in is something that

1:05:46 ↗ I used to do in my past

1:05:47 ↗ we brought in these comparisons I didn't

1:05:49 ↗ expect the comparisons to be this

1:05:51 ↗ different when I looked at regional fire

1:05:53 ↗ authorities though specifically because

1:05:55 ↗ those of you that have been involved in

1:05:56 ↗ the board understand that there was a

1:05:57 ↗ when I walked through the door there was

1:05:59 ↗ a some contention about a regional Fire

1:06:01 ↗ Authority regional Fire Authority bears

1:06:03 ↗ out that it's the most expensive model

1:06:04 ↗ you can do from a city perspective and

1:06:07 ↗ Emily I apologize but I used to work in

1:06:09 ↗ a big city so I get to say this from a

1:06:11 ↗ city perspective it's very hard to hold

1:06:14 ↗ to to be critical of the of every line

1:06:18 ↗ item all the way through the budget and

1:06:20 ↗ holding accountable and I'm sure all of

1:06:21 ↗ you have had that experience as well not

1:06:23 ↗ because there's nobody being mischievous

1:06:25 ↗ or anything with the budget but it's

1:06:26 ↗ such a large animal and Redmon's you

1:06:28 ↗ brought up Redmond so I'll say I got to

1:06:30 ↗ believe there's a large large animal

1:06:31 ↗ there it's a qualtiy your budget is more

1:06:34 ↗ complicated than mine we can probably

1:06:35 ↗ take yes in the 50 to 75 line items that

1:06:39 ↗ I have it's pretty easy as a chief to

1:06:41 ↗ screwed

1:06:42 ↗ and hold accountable that number of

1:06:43 ↗ lines versus the layers upon layers that

1:06:46 ↗ a city has and depending on who's been

1:06:48 ↗ leading the fire department over those

1:06:50 ↗ years and what their personality is and

1:06:51 ↗ what their background is I don't think

1:06:53 ↗ that they can hold their organization as

1:06:55 ↗ accountable as I'm able to because of

1:06:57 ↗ the structure that you put together

1:06:58 ↗ before I got here at it that's my

1:07:00 ↗ opinion anyway all right thank you

1:07:01 ↗ mm-hmm other questions right now it's

1:07:05 ↗ too bad you haven't had an opportunity

1:07:06 ↗ to be on the e4 board because it's

1:07:08 ↗ really fun

1:07:16 ↗ [Laughter]

1:07:21 ↗ I have a quick question on the revenue

1:07:25 ↗ side what are the other sources of non

1:07:27 ↗ partner revenue okay all right so the

1:07:29 ↗ EMS levy is in King County EMS what

1:07:34 ↗ falls into the other three yeah John

1:07:37 ↗ help me could you I'm sorry she came up

1:07:40 ↗ to the microphone because people can't

1:07:42 ↗ hear us on the at home of the seven

1:07:45 ↗ people who are 7000 that's what I meant

1:07:51 ↗ to say sorry John Parkinson deputy chief

1:07:54 ↗ so the bulk of that's going to come

1:07:56 ↗ through a few things it's vehicle

1:07:57 ↗ contracts with other agencies cost

1:08:01 ↗ recovery from fire marshals or the other

1:08:02 ↗ is the other large one but that makes up

1:08:05 ↗ the bulk of it so there's odds-and-ends

1:08:07 ↗ which is some money that comes in from

1:08:09 ↗ school districts in the tens of thousand

1:08:11 ↗ ranges but and we can provide you a

1:08:16 ↗ break down to that's we just try to keep

1:08:20 ↗ it keep it easy

1:08:22 ↗ sometimes I keep it too easy though all

1:08:26 ↗ right so this this is a document that we

1:08:28 ↗ presented on July 5th one of the things

1:08:31 ↗ that I try to do to keep it really

1:08:33 ↗ simple is to just show you the

1:08:35 ↗ exceptions okay so what this is is an

1:08:37 ↗ exception report this is not up to date

1:08:39 ↗ with what your reps are gonna see on

1:08:41 ↗ Thursday but it's been vetted through

1:08:43 ↗ four meetings with the FAC

1:08:45 ↗ but largely here here's what you see is

1:08:48 ↗ in 19 here are the exceptions everything

1:08:50 ↗ that's over $20,000 that we're looking

1:08:52 ↗ at this does not reflect if I found

1:08:55 ↗ or if the staff found 20,000 dollars of

1:08:57 ↗ savings somewhere else and we were able

1:08:58 ↗ to use that for a priority that we

1:09:00 ↗ didn't have to ask the board for that's

1:09:02 ↗ not reflected in here either this is

1:09:03 ↗ just what is above what we were asking

1:09:06 ↗ for and our our initiatives I'm gonna go

1:09:08 ↗ over the major initiatives here towards

1:09:11 ↗ the end of the presentation so I but I

1:09:13 ↗ just wanted you to see the one-page

1:09:14 ↗ summary that we speak from in the

1:09:16 ↗ beginning and our board did see this as

1:09:18 ↗ a whole in June when they referred this

1:09:19 ↗ to the fact and then this isn't updated

1:09:24 ↗ we just presented this on September 24th

1:09:26 ↗ but back in June the board saw a similar

1:09:30 ↗ piece based on what our projections were

1:09:31 ↗ in June and you'll see this is 19 and 20

1:09:34 ↗ as far as what the proposal that our

1:09:40 ↗ board is going to consider on Thursday

1:09:42 ↗ night and you'll see for Issaquah it's a

1:09:44 ↗ six and a half percent proposal I'm

1:09:46 ↗ gonna get into a smoothing idea that

1:09:48 ↗ came across and understand that this

1:09:50 ↗ year the funding formula changed based

1:09:52 ↗ on the contract that was negotiated back

1:09:53 ↗ in 2015 alright so and that means

1:09:57 ↗ there's an absolutely nothing from an

1:09:59 ↗ organizational standpoint that changed

1:10:00 ↗ to change these numbers other than the

1:10:02 ↗ contract says that we have to redo 15%

1:10:04 ↗ which is based on call volume and

1:10:06 ↗ eighty-five percent of the formula which

1:10:07 ↗ is based on assessed valuation and that

1:10:10 ↗ changed the actual percentages that each

1:10:12 ↗ partner play pays as far as our final

1:10:16 ↗ proposal in 19 it's a three point six

1:10:18 ↗ three percent operating budget increase

1:10:21 ↗ or partner contribution increase and in

1:10:23 ↗ 2020 it's a two point four eight percent

1:10:26 ↗ but you'll see based on this it's three

1:10:28 ↗ point six three for the whole agency but

1:10:30 ↗ Issaquah sees a six and a half percent

1:10:31 ↗ increase if it's accepted as it is here

1:10:34 ↗ and it's because of the funding formula

1:10:35 ↗ refresh not because of anything that we

1:10:37 ↗ did operationally this is the this is

1:10:41 ↗ the latest summary that we landed on

1:10:42 ↗ when it comes to actual revenue and

1:10:45 ↗ expense it's just meant to be the

1:10:47 ↗ summary to demonstrate the three point

1:10:49 ↗ six three percent and the two point four

1:10:50 ↗ eight percent for 19 2019 and 2020 and

1:10:54 ↗ you can see the updated revenue

1:10:56 ↗ projections across the bottom there

1:11:02 ↗ all right so then what I wanted to do

1:11:04 ↗ was just include a few of our major

1:11:06 ↗ initiatives so that you understand what

1:11:08 ↗ the changes are and where we're moving

1:11:10 ↗ again I hope you'll see at the end that

1:11:12 ↗ there's a theme here about efficiencies

1:11:13 ↗ and doing everything we can one of my

1:11:15 ↗ first mandates back to staff after we

1:11:17 ↗ have we first solicit out to our staff

1:11:20 ↗ on what potential budget items they need

1:11:21 ↗ moving forward once we assemble those my

1:11:25 ↗ executive staff the three deputy chiefs

1:11:26 ↗ and myself we will sit we'll go through

1:11:28 ↗ those a little bit and and now after

1:11:31 ↗ this is my third budget here it doesn't

1:11:32 ↗ even come to me before this this step

1:11:34 ↗ now it's basically they ask everybody

1:11:36 ↗ okay what resources do we have right now

1:11:38 ↗ to handle the things that you're asking

1:11:40 ↗ for so that we don't have to go ask the

1:11:43 ↗ board of directors for something that's

1:11:44 ↗ our last option is to ask for more money

1:11:46 ↗ our first options are to handle things

1:11:47 ↗ in-house so first of all our first

1:11:50 ↗ initiative what this is outlined in our

1:11:51 ↗ strategic plan was getting to a plan

1:11:53 ↗ where in our urban core as you recall

1:11:55 ↗ from our standards of response coverage

1:11:57 ↗ Sammamish in Issaquah are by definition

1:11:59 ↗ urban areas they are they should be

1:12:02 ↗ getting served we should be serving them

1:12:04 ↗ from a fire service perspective with

1:12:06 ↗ dedicated aid car system right now what

1:12:08 ↗ happens in our six fire stations that we

1:12:10 ↗ have in Issaquah and Sammamish is that

1:12:12 ↗ when an aide call comes out our

1:12:14 ↗ firefighters come out and they jump in

1:12:16 ↗ the aid unit and they respond on an aid

1:12:18 ↗ call all right they go back to the

1:12:20 ↗ station if another call comes out this

1:12:21 ↗ fire related then they jump on the fire

1:12:23 ↗ engine the problem with that system is

1:12:25 ↗ when a fire call kicks out and the three

1:12:28 ↗ closest companies are coming back from

1:12:30 ↗ an aid call and they're in their aid

1:12:32 ↗ unit they can't fight the fire they have

1:12:34 ↗ to go all the way back to their station

1:12:36 ↗ get their fire engine and move back the

1:12:37 ↗ urban benchmark or best practice within

1:12:40 ↗ the industry is that they're always in

1:12:41 ↗ their engine in their ladder one of the

1:12:43 ↗ things we identified through the

1:12:44 ↗ strategic plan was in order to

1:12:45 ↗ accomplish that in the urban area which

1:12:48 ↗ is Sammamish in Issaquah those six

1:12:50 ↗ stations we need to add a couple of

1:12:52 ↗ dedicated units dedicated aid units

1:12:54 ↗ during a budget process so that means

1:12:58 ↗ adding to personate units two of them

1:13:00 ↗ during the day or during the 12 hours

1:13:01 ↗ 8:30 in the morning till 8:30 at night

1:13:03 ↗ and one that would be overnight for all

1:13:05 ↗ 24 hours is what's needed so you'll see

1:13:08 ↗ that based on this and these are all

1:13:10 ↗ going to sum up together but based on

1:13:12 ↗ this to add one 24 hour unit is

1:13:14 ↗ and $42,000 to meet that benchmark you

1:13:17 ↗ explained again for those of us who have

1:13:18 ↗ lucky enough to be on board yet what's

1:13:22 ↗ something that's bigger than sending out

1:13:24 ↗ an ambulance but smaller than than

1:13:26 ↗ setting out a fire engine as an aid car

1:13:29 ↗ whatsit yeah an aid car is an ambulance

1:13:31 ↗ basically so it's a it's synonymous with

1:13:33 ↗ ambulance actually just in the fire

1:13:34 ↗ service here we call it an aid car so it

1:13:37 ↗ would be an ambulance that's responding

1:13:38 ↗ with three people on it the same three

1:13:39 ↗ people that are on the engine or the

1:13:41 ↗ engine they just pick one or the other

1:13:43 ↗ so we don't uh forgive me I've never

1:13:45 ↗ held that's a different ambulance or

1:13:47 ↗ anything good for you they don't send

1:13:49 ↗ ambulances they send the fire department

1:13:51 ↗ this in the fire department yeah there

1:13:52 ↗ the fire department is the first

1:13:53 ↗ responder and then if our ambulance

1:13:56 ↗ contractors am are here if we need to do

1:13:58 ↗ a transport that we can't facilitate

1:14:00 ↗ ourselves then we would call the

1:14:01 ↗ ambulance company and to perform that

1:14:03 ↗ but no the first response is handled

1:14:06 ↗ through the fire department in this area

1:14:09 ↗ and in most areas of the country got it

1:14:11 ↗ okay thank you you're welcome very

1:14:12 ↗ helpful so as as proposed if we were to

1:14:16 ↗ add dedicated aid units to our existing

1:14:18 ↗ system we would need nine hundred and

1:14:19 ↗ forty two thousand dollars to add every

1:14:21 ↗ 24-hour unit okay technically we need

1:14:24 ↗ two 24-hour units to serve the Issaquah

1:14:27 ↗ and Sammamish ares if we did things

1:14:29 ↗ traditionally alright but we really only

1:14:31 ↗ need two during the peak times which is

1:14:33 ↗ 8:30 in the morning to 8:30 at night so

1:14:35 ↗ that means we need one and a half right

1:14:37 ↗ a 12-hour unit at 24 hour units so that

1:14:39 ↗ number for one and a half is going to be

1:14:40 ↗ somewhere around 1.4 1.5 million dollars

1:14:43 ↗ just remember that number and I'll come

1:14:44 ↗ back to it all right so that's one of

1:14:46 ↗ the initiatives that we're achieving

1:14:47 ↗ with the budget that's proposed

1:14:49 ↗ currently and in this this is just a

1:14:52 ↗ visual depiction from our standards of

1:14:54 ↗ response coverage where it these red

1:14:56 ↗ marks here are the six fire stations in

1:14:59 ↗ our urban core so there's the green the

1:15:05 ↗ red the green dots are dots that we read

1:15:07 ↗ that we achieve the response time within

1:15:09 ↗ our response time goal the red are the

1:15:11 ↗ areas we don't end and the traffic's

1:15:14 ↗ area and South Cove those no matter what

1:15:17 ↗ we do with our station placement those

1:15:18 ↗ two areas are gonna stay pretty red

1:15:20 ↗ they're just they're odd configurations

1:15:23 ↗ to respond to they're difficult to get

1:15:25 ↗ in and out of

1:15:26 ↗ and forest rim for those of us who live

1:15:29 ↗ on squat yes and I'm one of them too I

1:15:31 ↗ don't live that high up but I'm on

1:15:32 ↗ squawk I'm not sure why this slide is

1:15:36 ↗ doing this so another initiative that we

1:15:38 ↗ had from the strategic plan is our span

1:15:42 ↗ of control of Supervisors so a battalion

1:15:45 ↗ chief is a 24 hour response supervisor

1:15:47 ↗ and currently we have one station right

1:15:49 ↗ here in downtown in squat station 71 and

1:15:51 ↗ 24 hours a day they're responsible to

1:15:54 ↗ cover a hundred and ninety square miles

1:15:56 ↗ that we have in efer area nine career

1:15:59 ↗ stations and five volunteer stations

1:16:01 ↗ that's a lot for one supervisor to

1:16:04 ↗ handle all right we clearly need a

1:16:06 ↗ second one more for space than call

1:16:08 ↗ volume but still covering 190 square

1:16:10 ↗ miles and nine stations plus the

1:16:12 ↗ volunteer stations is a lot so we

1:16:14 ↗ clearly need that this budget does

1:16:16 ↗ achieve it if we were to if we were to

1:16:19 ↗ add the 24-hour unit the the BC that's

1:16:21 ↗ almost six hundred thousand dollars

1:16:23 ↗ there can I ask are there so when we

1:16:29 ↗ when we've talked about adding officers

1:16:32 ↗ and to a lesser extent talking about

1:16:34 ↗ adding senior officers in the IPD

1:16:37 ↗ there's either an ik ma or some other

1:16:41 ↗ sort of standard that's used to say

1:16:44 ↗ we've crossed this threshold and so when

1:16:48 ↗ you talk about nine stations and five

1:16:52 ↗ volunteer stations there is there a

1:16:54 ↗ nigma standard or some other standard

1:16:56 ↗ that you can use to say here's you know

1:16:58 ↗ this is sort of the this is the industry

1:17:00 ↗ standard request you crossed it a while

1:17:02 ↗ ago we've been kind of waiting to do

1:17:03 ↗ this but we can't wait any longer I

1:17:05 ↗ would say ICMA doesn't doesn't have a

1:17:09 ↗ standard per se they're part of the fire

1:17:10 ↗ service accreditation process but for

1:17:13 ↗ the most part and I agree with this we

1:17:16 ↗ don't buy into just a standard because

1:17:18 ↗ demographics are so different Road

1:17:19 ↗ configuration and that is so different

1:17:21 ↗ I think universally from a management

1:17:23 ↗ perspective span of control of

1:17:25 ↗ supervising four people six people at

1:17:28 ↗ the most or direct reports is probably

1:17:31 ↗ the most efficient way to maintain that

1:17:32 ↗ and our folks are at 1 to 9 under our

1:17:36 ↗ current system that that's probably the

1:17:37 ↗ best benchmark I can provide you

1:17:39 ↗ the context of this request of where

1:17:41 ↗ we're going but you're gonna find all

1:17:44 ↗ over the map in the fire service about

1:17:45 ↗ what how many B C's there are versus

1:17:48 ↗ stations and supervision and square

1:17:51 ↗ miles and that kind of thing got it and

1:17:52 ↗ I ask just you know mostly because you

1:17:57 ↗ know fire and police are incredibly

1:18:01 ↗ trained professionals and thus do not

1:18:03 ↗ come cheaply so we always want very

1:18:05 ↗ careful oh no you do want to be careful

1:18:06 ↗ and probably that number I showed you in

1:18:08 ↗ the beginning and the comparisons with

1:18:10 ↗ FTEs of 1.06 per thousand now what is a

1:18:14 ↗ common benchmark that I would say the

1:18:16 ↗ ICM a and I to probably fight on a

1:18:19 ↗ regular basis would be they they're

1:18:21 ↗ likes to be a number of the number of

1:18:22 ↗ sworn firefighters and they want that to

1:18:24 ↗ be at one per thousand is kind of the

1:18:27 ↗ common push for proponents of that kind

1:18:30 ↗ of a metric same thing with PD they

1:18:31 ↗ might be a little higher than one but

1:18:34 ↗ there's nothing tying to the the

1:18:36 ↗ effectiveness or the efficiency of that

1:18:38 ↗ is just saying oh we should have one

1:18:39 ↗ firefighter per thousand which we don't

1:18:41 ↗ have we have 1.06 employees per thousand

1:18:45 ↗ but again I don't buy into that number

1:18:47 ↗ either I think everything's depending on

1:18:49 ↗ what service you're trying to achieve

1:18:51 ↗ and every community is a little

1:18:52 ↗ different thanks you're welcome so then

1:18:57 ↗ the budget has proposed what we're

1:18:59 ↗ actually doing this is something that I

1:19:01 ↗ wanted

1:19:01 ↗ councilmember winters team to hear

1:19:03 ↗ because he made a comment last year when

1:19:04 ↗ we talked about strategic plan and we

1:19:06 ↗ talked about not having to add people I

1:19:09 ↗ said yes I'm confident that as we move

1:19:10 ↗ forward we can achieve a lot of our

1:19:12 ↗ goals without having to add new people

1:19:14 ↗ so this is this is an example of this

1:19:16 ↗ what we're doing up and Sammamish under

1:19:18 ↗ this budget is they have a station which

1:19:21 ↗ is not on this map I'm gonna show you

1:19:23 ↗ so this station 281 okay that station is

1:19:29 ↗ our least busy I guess fire station

1:19:34 ↗ within the urban core all right and it

1:19:36 ↗ is pretty easy to identify how we could

1:19:39 ↗ cover our urban core with five fire

1:19:41 ↗ stations along with to dynamically

1:19:44 ↗ deployed staff aid units all right so

1:19:48 ↗ what we propose is repurposing station

1:19:50 ↗ 81 there's 12 personnel at that station

1:19:53 ↗ and utilizing those personnel to

1:19:55 ↗ populate the aid unit the 24-hour aid

1:19:58 ↗ unit and the 24 hour BC unit okay rather

1:20:01 ↗ than ask for new people all right and

1:20:03 ↗ then the station the 12-hour aid unit to

1:20:07 ↗ take care of the rest of the peak time

1:20:09 ↗ we're gonna staff when this is the five

1:20:11 ↗ hundred and forty forty eight thousand

1:20:13 ↗ dollar ad we want to staff that twelve

1:20:15 ↗ hours a day during the peak time because

1:20:17 ↗ during the peak time 8:30 in the morning

1:20:18 ↗ to 8:30 at night we run 66% of our call

1:20:21 ↗ volume 33 percent of our call volume is

1:20:23 ↗ from 8:30 at night till 8:30 in the

1:20:25 ↗ morning okay so what we what we see from

1:20:28 ↗ there is we can utilize twelve hours of

1:20:31 ↗ actually overtime putting to overtime

1:20:33 ↗ personnel on there is cheaper than

1:20:35 ↗ getting what we'd have to hire as a

1:20:37 ↗ minimum of four full-time employees it's

1:20:40 ↗ actually cheaper to staff this with

1:20:41 ↗ overtime

1:20:42 ↗ than with new employees especially over

1:20:45 ↗ the long run so we're proposing this 12

1:20:47 ↗ hour car with overtime and that's the

1:20:49 ↗ add rather than to do all of this by

1:20:52 ↗ just adding straight up to the budget is

1:20:54 ↗ just over it would be over a two million

1:20:55 ↗ dollar ask which I wouldn't I would no

1:20:58 ↗ not even to come ask for the two million

1:21:00 ↗ it's just it's far too much and at the

1:21:02 ↗ same time by repurposing we're achieving

1:21:04 ↗ the goals that we set out to to achieve

1:21:09 ↗ weight yes so go back for a second yes

1:21:11 ↗ sir there's there's another change Oh on

1:21:15 ↗ the on the map yes okay so South yeah so

1:21:18 ↗ there's there's a couple things that are

1:21:20 ↗ going on what what this deployment plan

1:21:23 ↗ presupposes is that the station that's

1:21:26 ↗ here would be moved somewhere along the

1:21:28 ↗ East Lake Sam corridor and currently

1:21:30 ↗ there's land that we're evaluating over

1:21:31 ↗ there in the city of Issaquah this was a

1:21:33 ↗ request from mr. Kyle misuk well when I

1:21:35 ↗ first arrived and we are planning that's

1:21:38 ↗ actually a good spot in that area for

1:21:39 ↗ the station so moving that station helps

1:21:42 ↗ us cover the area more efficiently and

1:21:44 ↗ then the extra dots that you see

1:21:46 ↗ including station 81 is still up there

1:21:48 ↗ the one we're repurposing and then out

1:21:50 ↗ here in traffic's those are basically

1:21:52 ↗ posting locations so that the to 8 units

1:21:55 ↗ what's not going to happen is those two

1:21:56 ↗ staffed 8 units are not just gonna sit

1:21:58 ↗ in stations along with another fully

1:22:01 ↗ staffed engine or ladder and just wait

1:22:03 ↗ for the next call that we're not

1:22:04 ↗ spreading out our resources that we

1:22:06 ↗ to dynamically deploy those based on

1:22:08 ↗ call volume trends based on the areas we

1:22:10 ↗ need to cover so and with to be sees out

1:22:12 ↗ there we're gonna be able to cover and

1:22:14 ↗ monitor our larger areas on a more

1:22:16 ↗ regular basis more effectively so we're

1:22:18 ↗ gonna be moving our resources around so

1:22:20 ↗ I have a question mm-hmm

1:22:22 ↗ my house is one of the now little red

1:22:24 ↗ dots just to the east of forest rim okay

1:22:28 ↗ that is on your map you sit it until now

1:22:32 ↗ was a green dot yep

1:22:33 ↗ so will I pay higher homeowner's

1:22:36 ↗ insurance because I'm a red dot not a

1:22:38 ↗ green dot no in this in the city of

1:22:40 ↗ Issaquah you will have the same rating

1:22:42 ↗ that the city attains which is currently

1:22:45 ↗ a four so no you you should not and if

1:22:48 ↗ if you do give me a call we'll we'll

1:22:51 ↗ talk to the insurance companies for you

1:22:53 ↗ thank you other questions right now

1:22:56 ↗ comes from Edgar Ramos yeah there's a

1:22:59 ↗ lot of detail underneath all these dots

1:23:01 ↗ under the dots yeah yeah so I guess so

1:23:07 ↗ when you say repurposing 81 mm-hmm

1:23:09 ↗ meaning what what is that station a

1:23:12 ↗ couple of things here and then as you

1:23:14 ↗ say there's donat dynamical locations

1:23:16 ↗ there's not something there now that

1:23:19 ↗ means you have to create something oh

1:23:21 ↗ wait no what it means it's so station 81

1:23:23 ↗ we're actually gonna we're gonna post

1:23:24 ↗ that 12-hour unit when they're not doing

1:23:27 ↗ anything else then they're gonna cover

1:23:28 ↗ from station 281 okay so that's that's

1:23:32 ↗ what we mean by repurposing rather than

1:23:33 ↗ being 24 hours a day with an engine

1:23:35 ↗ company in there that's underutilized

1:23:37 ↗ we're gonna put a 12-hour 8 unit in

1:23:39 ↗ there with the two-person 8 unit and

1:23:42 ↗ they're gonna still support all the

1:23:44 ↗ urban area as they do today the other

1:23:46 ↗ area is is no they're not planning on

1:23:48 ↗ building any new facilities it will be

1:23:50 ↗ over time where's the best place to post

1:23:52 ↗ where do we move we know we need to

1:23:54 ↗ cover some area in the tropics and we

1:23:56 ↗ know South Cove depending on call volume

1:23:58 ↗ again I think I want to say this is

1:24:01 ↗ three years worth of data so don't think

1:24:02 ↗ that like South Cove that we're never

1:24:04 ↗ getting to any of the calls there this

1:24:05 ↗ is just it's either three or five years

1:24:08 ↗ that we piled on this map so there's a

1:24:11 ↗ lot to cover there but will dynamically

1:24:14 ↗ deploy them but simply by going to a

1:24:15 ↗ parking lot if need be if we know during

1:24:17 ↗ that time of

1:24:18 ↗ we normally get a call in south kovin

1:24:19 ↗ some of this stuff is predictable but

1:24:21 ↗ until we can have these smaller units to

1:24:24 ↗ respond this way we can't perfect the

1:24:26 ↗ science of how to cover the area either

1:24:28 ↗ it's just guessing through data we want

1:24:31 ↗ to actually get units out there and see

1:24:32 ↗ how accurate we can be and it won't take

1:24:34 ↗ long but then we'll know where the best

1:24:36 ↗ places to post are but we know now I've

1:24:38 ↗ committed to the city of Sammamish that

1:24:40 ↗ will be posting at station 81 whenever

1:24:43 ↗ we can with that unit in order to do

1:24:45 ↗ everything we can to maintain the

1:24:46 ↗ services there okay all right and then

1:24:53 ↗ in community programs I cited community

1:24:57 ↗ programs just to let you know some of

1:24:58 ↗ the great work that we're doing with our

1:24:59 ↗ volunteer our volunteer program over the

1:25:01 ↗ last two years has completely been

1:25:03 ↗ revamped and is moving forward and it's

1:25:05 ↗ thanks to a lot of great work from staff

1:25:08 ↗ and our volunteer folks Fire Corps has

1:25:11 ↗ expanded these are this is anything

1:25:13 ↗ volunteer wise that has not nothing to

1:25:15 ↗ do with responding on actual fires

1:25:17 ↗ alright these are these are our

1:25:19 ↗ volunteers who are the new drone program

1:25:21 ↗ that we just started with thanks to the

1:25:23 ↗ donation from the EMS foundation they're

1:25:25 ↗ running that fire core was all over

1:25:28 ↗ salmon days this last weekend they were

1:25:30 ↗ they were doing everything in support

1:25:32 ↗ our fire Explorer program kicks off

1:25:33 ↗ actually it's kicking off

1:25:35 ↗ I think it's Wednesday night I'll be

1:25:37 ↗ kicking off with 20 or 30 young people

1:25:39 ↗ from the from high school and then and

1:25:42 ↗ our reserves which was our old volunteer

1:25:44 ↗ program you'll see that there was an

1:25:45 ↗ increase in the academy and then the

1:25:48 ↗ stipends this is all being shared with

1:25:50 ↗ district 38 and district ne4 is a 33%

1:25:53 ↗ partner in the volunteer costs when it

1:25:55 ↗ comes to this stuff and then the public

1:25:59 ↗ education supply increases just that

1:26:00 ↗ just to have materials to hand out

1:26:02 ↗ because we're we are more visible than

1:26:04 ↗ what we've ever been and in more more

1:26:06 ↗ events than what we have been and then

1:26:08 ↗ some of the other budget items that we

1:26:09 ↗ went into more depth with you can see

1:26:11 ↗ here one of the things I want to call

1:26:12 ↗ out is wildland preparedness this this

1:26:15 ↗ scares me the dryer we're getting 100%

1:26:19 ↗ of our firefighters will receive

1:26:21 ↗ wildland training and we'll maintain

1:26:22 ↗ that beginning next year that has not

1:26:24 ↗ been the case here in the past and we

1:26:26 ↗ have as much interface as anyone in the

1:26:27 ↗ country we're just lucky it's been wet

1:26:29 ↗ and hopefully it stays that way

1:26:31 ↗ but we're going to be prepared if not

1:26:33 ↗ and then the rest of the command

1:26:35 ↗ training platform is a is a big move we

1:26:37 ↗ do not have a standard command training

1:26:39 ↗ platform never have at Eastside and this

1:26:42 ↗ is something frankly we just we need to

1:26:44 ↗ be covering our liability and training

1:26:46 ↗ our folks appropriately and

1:26:47 ↗ systematically and that's what that

1:26:49 ↗ system does for us chief can I see a

1:26:51 ↗ couple questions around that wildland

1:26:52 ↗ preparedness yes servants so it's cost

1:26:56 ↗ neutral so who's who's paying the bill

1:27:00 ↗ yes so so the reason we call that cost

1:27:03 ↗ neutral is we bumped some other training

1:27:06 ↗ priorities that we normally would do and

1:27:08 ↗ we slid it in next year as this is our

1:27:11 ↗ focus so we're using our existing

1:27:13 ↗ training budget to handle the pride the

1:27:15 ↗ new priority of wildland and we bumped

1:27:17 ↗ out what otherwise we thought could wait

1:27:19 ↗ a year and we'll take care of that in

1:27:21 ↗ 2020 that's why we're calling it cost

1:27:23 ↗ neutral I'm really glad to see that

1:27:25 ↗ we're doing that I think that you just

1:27:27 ↗ have to look at what happened when a chi

1:27:29 ↗ three years ago yes recognize that the

1:27:31 ↗ the then state fire marshal told me yes

1:27:34 ↗ 'equal was sort of the poster child of

1:27:36 ↗ wildland urban interface fires risk on

1:27:39 ↗ the western Cascades because of all of

1:27:41 ↗ our because of all of our butan

1:27:43 ↗ beautiful mountainside around us yeah so

1:27:45 ↗ I'm really glad to glad to hear that are

1:27:50 ↗ we doing anything with fire why's the

1:27:52 ↗ program to help homeowners sort of

1:27:55 ↗ ruggedized their properties yes against

1:27:57 ↗ against wildland fires yeah we are we

1:28:00 ↗ actually just had a community

1:28:02 ↗ preparedness BC was back in Emmitsburg

1:28:04 ↗ Maryland where the fire academy is and

1:28:06 ↗ he was getting some overview on that he

1:28:08 ↗ has some fire wise training you're gonna

1:28:09 ↗ see it start to roll out a little bit

1:28:11 ↗ more I think the hard part with fire

1:28:13 ↗ wise is you have to get people's

1:28:14 ↗ attention in order for them to

1:28:15 ↗ participate that hey it's a possibility

1:28:17 ↗ I think we're based on the the enquiries

1:28:20 ↗ that we received the last couple of

1:28:21 ↗ years I think the attention is starting

1:28:23 ↗ to get to folks that hey maybe this is a

1:28:25 ↗ possibility here and that once we can

1:28:26 ↗ grab hold with the public their

1:28:28 ↗ imagination a little bit that hey maybe

1:28:30 ↗ this stuff can happen here the

1:28:32 ↗ prevention can start to come around but

1:28:33 ↗ you will see a focus on that we do have

1:28:35 ↗ a focus on it it's just hard to get it

1:28:37 ↗ going because a lot of people just don't

1:28:38 ↗ believe it can happen here sure and I

1:28:40 ↗ think I mean you mentioned squawk two of

1:28:42 ↗ the seven of us are

1:28:44 ↗ on squawk yep and you know as beautiful

1:28:47 ↗ it is and as proud as we are of the

1:28:49 ↗ canopy that we have and I living in the

1:28:51 ↗ forest

1:28:52 ↗ you know my property is not ready for

1:28:54 ↗ any kind of anything running along the

1:28:57 ↗ ground so yeah you know I I think

1:29:00 ↗ whatever we can do as a community to

1:29:03 ↗ understand that risk we'd be good the

1:29:05 ↗ other question I have for you is in

1:29:07 ↗ terms of large scale emergency

1:29:09 ↗ preparedness I know that the Cascadia

1:29:11 ↗ rising didn't I don't think it came all

1:29:13 ↗ the way down to the like yfir level did

1:29:15 ↗ it no we did we did participate in

1:29:18 ↗ Cascadia rising yes okay so so efer has

1:29:22 ↗ plans around those those sorts of like a

1:29:26 ↗ subduction fault event and and

1:29:28 ↗ emergencies that would potentially arise

1:29:30 ↗ from the subduction fault yeah I think

1:29:32 ↗ how it categorizes is were we are folded

1:29:34 ↗ in with everybody that we serve and we

1:29:36 ↗ fold into your plan as the jurisdiction

1:29:39 ↗ you're actually one responsible to have

1:29:41 ↗ a plan and then we support that same

1:29:42 ↗ with the county and the state so we'll

1:29:44 ↗ obviously be involved in them we take

1:29:46 ↗ care of that we take part of the

1:29:47 ↗ planning processes for all of that

1:29:49 ↗ unlike a traditional City Fire

1:29:51 ↗ Department we don't have a formal role

1:29:53 ↗ because we went through this with

1:29:54 ↗ Sammamish as the authority having

1:29:56 ↗ jurisdiction is you the city not me the

1:29:59 ↗ contracted fire provider we are here in

1:30:02 ↗ full support and we work with your folks

1:30:03 ↗ on staff but you're the lead and then we

1:30:05 ↗ follow with it and so our plan is really

1:30:07 ↗ your plan when it comes to questions

1:30:09 ↗ specific to that got it thank you other

1:30:12 ↗ questions right now okay we're almost

1:30:15 ↗ through this the last thing I have is

1:30:18 ↗ the funding formula refresh I want to

1:30:20 ↗ let you know where we're at I explained

1:30:23 ↗ this a little bit that in 2015 the

1:30:26 ↗ contract was agreed to it was actually

1:30:28 ↗ so would have been prior to January 1st

1:30:29 ↗ 2015 that the contract was agreed to and

1:30:31 ↗ the funding formula is broken down with

1:30:33 ↗ the 85/15 that was new to the agency at

1:30:35 ↗ the time what you agreed to back then

1:30:37 ↗ was that in May of 2018

1:30:39 ↗ that the numbers would be reapplied

1:30:41 ↗ based on the 2017 session in the 2016

1:30:44 ↗ Norcom incident data now moving forward

1:30:48 ↗ when we signed the contract extension

1:30:49 ↗ last year we extended the contract to

1:30:52 ↗ 2026 and we planned to have automatic

1:30:55 ↗ tenure

1:30:56 ↗ Newell's in that contract and then we

1:30:57 ↗ planned that every two years that there

1:31:00 ↗ would be this data refresh rather than

1:31:01 ↗ waiting three four and five years which

1:31:03 ↗ is why right now specifically Issaquah

1:31:06 ↗ North Bend you have kind of a shock when

1:31:09 ↗ it comes to the amount that we're asking

1:31:10 ↗ for an increase because it's so many

1:31:12 ↗ years in between so but right now the

1:31:15 ↗ next refresh is 2022 so in 2022 we can't

1:31:19 ↗ predict it it'll again be mr. Kuan North

1:31:21 ↗ Bend but there are going to be some

1:31:23 ↗ partners who are gonna see an increase

1:31:25 ↗ and some partners who are going to see a

1:31:26 ↗ decrease as far as whatever the increase

1:31:30 ↗ the budgets going to be it's not going

1:31:31 ↗ to be uniform like it typically is so

1:31:34 ↗ one of the things that we did is we

1:31:35 ↗ staff proposed a couple of options we

1:31:40 ↗ were asked to after the first fact

1:31:42 ↗ meeting on how we might smooth this and

1:31:44 ↗ this example here is what's going to be

1:31:47 ↗ considered under a separate action on

1:31:48 ↗ Thursday night is a funding formula

1:31:51 ↗ smooth which this there's language that

1:31:53 ↗ accompanies this in a in our financial

1:31:56 ↗ policy that the Board of Directors

1:31:57 ↗ adopts which basically the quick summary

1:31:59 ↗ on this says that any no partner could

1:32:02 ↗ have more than a one and a half percent

1:32:05 ↗ increase above whatever the efer

1:32:08 ↗ increases so in this case our increase

1:32:10 ↗ is three point six three percent okay

1:32:12 ↗ from 2019 there is a typo the five point

1:32:16 ↗ four six up under bullet number two

1:32:18 ↗ there that was from an old version that

1:32:20 ↗ really should be five point one three

1:32:22 ↗ four this version but since we are

1:32:25 ↗ budget settled at a three point six

1:32:27 ↗ three percent increase what the smooth

1:32:29 ↗ says is that no agency can be build more

1:32:32 ↗ than one-and-a-half percent above the

1:32:35 ↗ three point six three which caps North

1:32:37 ↗ Bend and it's aquifer this year at five

1:32:40 ↗ point one three percent the remainder of

1:32:42 ↗ what otherwise would have been covered

1:32:44 ↗ by those two entities is spread out

1:32:45 ↗ based on the funding formula to the

1:32:47 ↗ other three partners then in the second

1:32:50 ↗ year it repeats and you kind of play

1:32:53 ↗ catch-up and you'll see that Issaquah

1:32:54 ↗ gets smoothed out but North Bend doesn't

1:32:56 ↗ quite make it alright but in in two and

1:32:59 ↗ a half years roughly North Bend will

1:33:01 ↗ make it what this does is limit the what

1:33:05 ↗ could have been easily a ten or a nine

1:33:07 ↗ or ten percent increase for you in North

1:33:09 ↗ Bay

1:33:09 ↗ it limits to whatever partner gets

1:33:11 ↗ affected from the funding formula

1:33:12 ↗ refresh to just one and a half percent

1:33:14 ↗ which is a little bit more realistic and

1:33:16 ↗ manageable from a North Bend perspective

1:33:18 ↗ I know and just in speaking to their

1:33:20 ↗ city manager she was looking at a seven

1:33:22 ↗ point eight two and I want to say that

1:33:23 ↗ our first rendition was over eight

1:33:24 ↗ percent for her budget and that size it

1:33:27 ↗ that was almost completely undoable she

1:33:30 ↗ was a little bit panicked and she

1:33:31 ↗ actually requested that we look at this

1:33:33 ↗ so the FAC has recommended that this be

1:33:35 ↗ approved I've talked to a couple of the

1:33:37 ↗ governing bodies that had questions

1:33:38 ↗ about this as a whole I do believe there

1:33:41 ↗ is support for this now moving forward

1:33:43 ↗ we'll see for sure on Thursday night but

1:33:45 ↗ this was at the pleasure of the fact to

1:33:47 ↗ figure out a way how to smooth it in for

1:33:51 ↗ partners now if adopted the way it's

1:33:53 ↗ presented this will be in effect for

1:33:55 ↗ 2022 as well I expect 2222 to be bad for

1:33:59 ↗ somebody just don't know who after that

1:34:01 ↗ when it goes to every two years this

1:34:03 ↗ probably won't have to apply again

1:34:04 ↗ because it should you shouldn't have a

1:34:06 ↗ radical change in AV or call volume over

1:34:08 ↗ a two-year period but over a four-year

1:34:10 ↗ period you're gonna see some significant

1:34:12 ↗ changes so but that's the last slide

1:34:14 ↗ I'll be happy to answer any more

1:34:16 ↗ questions you have questions

1:34:22 ↗ councilmember good I don't having I do

1:34:25 ↗ have a comment first of all thank you

1:34:27 ↗ for bringing your roadshow to is qua

1:34:29 ↗ appreciate it well so councilmember ray

1:34:33 ↗ and I are the city's representatives on

1:34:37 ↗ that East Side Fran rescue board and as

1:34:39 ↗ Chief Clark mentioned we will be as the

1:34:43 ↗ full board will be seeing the budget and

1:34:44 ↗ considering the budget and so council

1:34:46 ↗ members who have any feedback on what's

1:34:48 ↗ been presented tonight that would be

1:34:49 ↗ helpful for us as you heard the Finance

1:34:52 ↗ and Administration Committee that I

1:34:54 ↗ happen to be on recommended bringing the

1:34:57 ↗ his proposal to the to the full board

1:35:00 ↗ but we do still have to take our votes

1:35:03 ↗ so any feedback that you all have be

1:35:05 ↗ appreciated and we we gonna see it twice

1:35:08 ↗ or once the budget this is the second

1:35:11 ↗ time because we counted the June is the

1:35:12 ↗ first one so yes so yes so anything

1:35:15 ↗ before Thursday would be helpful thank

1:35:17 ↗ you

1:35:18 ↗ thank you for that I think that's it

1:35:23 ↗ oh and oh yeah thank you so much for

1:35:25 ↗ presenting we will offer it up if

1:35:27 ↗ there's any public comment this evening

1:35:28 ↗ on this subject

1:35:35 ↗ thanks again chief takes me back to when

1:35:41 ↗ we had a Public Safety Committee and

1:35:43 ↗ they wouldn't let me in land use or near

1:35:45 ↗ the roads so they got me no Public

1:35:47 ↗ Safety we had police and fire we kept

1:35:49 ↗ our fire department we kept our police

1:35:51 ↗ department as city of Issaquah and was

1:35:54 ↗ glad we moved over to a regional fire

1:35:57 ↗ and I hear great things different

1:36:00 ↗ employees and everybody seems quite

1:36:02 ↗ happy with what's going on and I know

1:36:05 ↗ very positive from councilmembers and

1:36:08 ↗ mayor's as well so keep it up

1:36:10 ↗ wildland issue is a big concern we had

1:36:15 ↗ four we had five example five homeless

1:36:20 ↗ camps over on the city property over

1:36:21 ↗ there and across ninety and we had one

1:36:25 ↗ fire and a very warrant but it didn't

1:36:27 ↗ get very big or they didn't even find it

1:36:28 ↗ actually it got put out but it was

1:36:30 ↗ visible from i-90 and there were calls

1:36:32 ↗ in that but I've I've been to lots and

1:36:36 ↗ lots of homeless camps and I've hardly

1:36:38 ↗ ever seen one where there wasn't

1:36:40 ↗ evidence of burned tarps burn tents or

1:36:43 ↗ out of control fires and that's

1:36:46 ↗ something we really need to think about

1:36:48 ↗ not that that's the only potential cause

1:36:50 ↗ of fires but it once something starts

1:36:53 ↗ racing up some of these hillsides

1:36:54 ↗ especially where you don't have water

1:36:56 ↗ don't have roads it's it's pretty

1:36:59 ↗ frightening and these these these hill

1:37:02 ↗ sites are too valuable to lose thank you

1:37:05 ↗ thank you for your comment actually

1:37:07 ↗ chief I did have one last question for

1:37:09 ↗ you and I wrote it down and I don't know

1:37:10 ↗ why I didn't ask you when it actually

1:37:12 ↗ does come back to the wildfire question

1:37:14 ↗ so I know that last year there was a

1:37:19 ↗ concerted effort to or I should say the

1:37:22 ↗ beginning of the effort to sort of

1:37:24 ↗ reassess how the federal government

1:37:26 ↗ supports growth of in in National Forest

1:37:31 ↗ Service land and whatnot and now part of

1:37:33 ↗ that was Senator Cantwell and

1:37:35 ↗ representative Reichert pushed a bill

1:37:38 ↗ and I don't remember which particular

1:37:40 ↗ kinds of trees it was but it was a it

1:37:42 ↗ was and it was a dry sided thing like it

1:37:44 ↗ was a thing that was great for the other

1:37:46 ↗ side of the pass wouldn't necessarily do

1:37:48 ↗ anything on our side but the question is

1:37:51 ↗ is there anything that folks on the on

1:37:55 ↗ the wet side of the pass should be doing

1:37:57 ↗ we rarely talk about federal issues

1:38:01 ↗ around here because they don't generally

1:38:03 ↗ affect our city all that much but I

1:38:04 ↗ don't know how much you know about that

1:38:06 ↗ effort that Cantwell and Riker did but

1:38:08 ↗ is there something similar that should

1:38:09 ↗ be done on this side to help sort of

1:38:12 ↗ revise how the feds handle these open

1:38:14 ↗ spaces it's a great question I really

1:38:17 ↗ don't know the answer to it I'm not

1:38:18 ↗ familiar with the effort that was made

1:38:20 ↗ there a large controversy in the in the

1:38:22 ↗ country of course is what we do to

1:38:25 ↗ manage our forests and there's there's

1:38:27 ↗ pros and cons on both sides and and

1:38:28 ↗ there are often bills at the federal

1:38:31 ↗ level and some of the state levels to

1:38:33 ↗ come up with policy on that the best

1:38:36 ↗ policy locally is keeping the brush and

1:38:39 ↗ your and the floor of the forest as

1:38:41 ↗ clean as possible around your structures

1:38:43 ↗ there's not much you're gonna do with

1:38:45 ↗ the tall trees so it's interesting

1:38:46 ↗ Washington State over the last five

1:38:48 ↗ years is number two in per square mile

1:38:52 ↗ wildfire burns like uncontrolled

1:38:55 ↗ wildfire burned and we're like number 35

1:38:58 ↗ in controlled burns so we in no way like

1:39:02 ↗ Georgia's number one for controlled

1:39:03 ↗ burns and it's up there for uncontrolled

1:39:05 ↗ burns but you know we just we are

1:39:08 ↗ totally out of whack for how much damage

1:39:11 ↗ wildfires do in our state versus how

1:39:13 ↗ much controlled burns we do and I don't

1:39:14 ↗ know enough I know it's a bigger deal on

1:39:16 ↗ the dry side than it is on the wet side

1:39:18 ↗ but I know that you know I know that

1:39:20 ↗ there's a lot of conversation about what

1:39:23 ↗ should be done to manage things such

1:39:26 ↗ that we're not number two you know for

1:39:28 ↗ for a wildfire so what I can do is

1:39:30 ↗ Ephraim we'll be building our

1:39:31 ↗ legislative agenda between now and

1:39:33 ↗ December so I will research that locally

1:39:35 ↗ and bring that back to the board to see

1:39:37 ↗ if there is anything within our state

1:39:38 ↗ that would

1:39:39 ↗ impact locally that is either being

1:39:41 ↗ worked on or maybe perhaps we should be

1:39:43 ↗ working on I can reach out to some of

1:39:44 ↗ the agencies to find that out I suspect

1:39:46 ↗ it's a federal issue not that it's an

1:39:48 ↗ issue for DC not in for Olympia but

1:39:50 ↗ either way it'll come across when in the

1:39:52 ↗ research saw like I said I think for our

1:39:56 ↗ city you know it's it's keenly important

1:39:59 ↗ that we reduce that in that risk

1:40:01 ↗ I would agree thanks thanks for taking

1:40:04 ↗ thought you're done all right

1:40:07 ↗ and with that any other final thoughts

1:40:10 ↗ no all right so we will move on to our

1:40:13 ↗ last item of the evening ID zero three

1:40:15 ↗ three four regional coalition for

1:40:17 ↗ housing aka arch parity updates back to

1:40:24 ↗ city administrator moon thank you

1:40:27 ↗ hopefully this will be relatively quick

1:40:35 ↗ by my pager sorry so city's a member of

1:40:42 ↗ the arch group which is an acronym for a

1:40:46 ↗ regional housing coalition this is a

1:40:48 ↗ group of 15 cities on the east side King

1:40:52 ↗ County and this coalition formed in the

1:40:56 ↗ early 90s to support the development of

1:40:59 ↗ affordable housing the organization's

1:41:03 ↗ Executive Board

1:41:04 ↗ huaquan established some advisory goals

1:41:08 ↗ that's really important voluntary goals

1:41:10 ↗ for each members financial contribution

1:41:13 ↗ to the coalition and in particular to

1:41:16 ↗ the coalition's Housing Trust Fund there

1:41:19 ↗ are two ways that cities that are

1:41:22 ↗ partners in arch contribute to arch one

1:41:25 ↗ is through an administrative fee that it

1:41:29 ↗ serves as the overhead contribution for

1:41:33 ↗ the organization so we pay for the staff

1:41:36 ↗ and the electricity in the offices and

1:41:39 ↗ all those sorts of things

1:41:40 ↗ our contribution for the admin fee is

1:41:43 ↗ roughly fifty thousand dollars a year

1:41:45 ↗ and then the second piece the

1:41:48 ↗ coalition members contribute to is to

1:41:51 ↗ the Housing Trust Fund the overall

1:41:56 ↗ Housing Trust Fund has made

1:42:00 ↗ contributions to affordable housing on

1:42:03 ↗ the east side to the tune of 65 million

1:42:06 ↗ dollars since the point in time when

1:42:09 ↗ arch was established created over three

1:42:11 ↗ thousand six hundred and forty eight

1:42:13 ↗ units we benefit from contributing to

1:42:19 ↗ the arch housing trust fund because our

1:42:23 ↗ funds go into a larger pot with the

1:42:27 ↗ other fourteen members and leverage

1:42:30 ↗ funds to create housing units here and

1:42:34 ↗ elsewhere on the east side and we also

1:42:38 ↗ benefit from that dedicated housing

1:42:40 ↗ staff that are truly subject matter

1:42:43 ↗ experts more so than staff most of our

1:42:47 ↗ cities have in-house those experts are

1:42:52 ↗ not only good resources for us in terms

1:42:56 ↗ of figuring out how to do the financing

1:42:58 ↗ on these deals but also on land use and

1:43:01 ↗ regulation on management of these types

1:43:04 ↗ of projects programs and financing tools

1:43:08 ↗ and then also on housing policy so

1:43:12 ↗ that's how we benefit from arch tonight

1:43:18 ↗ I wanted to bring forward three

1:43:21 ↗ questions so the Executive Board which I

1:43:24 ↗ serve as I suppose representative

1:43:29 ↗ recently took action after two years of

1:43:33 ↗ work on a set of questions and the board

1:43:37 ↗ in early 2018 made a recommendation that

1:43:41 ↗ we update what we call the parity goals

1:43:45 ↗ and parity is is a formula that we use

1:43:49 ↗ to describe the distribution of the

1:43:52 ↗ contributions and again those are

1:43:54 ↗ voluntary contributions to the housing

1:43:57 ↗ trust fund

1:43:58 ↗ so in mid 90s a formula was established

1:44:03 ↗ to describe what member contributions

1:44:07 ↗ might be and that formula has really not

1:44:11 ↗ been adopted and been adjusted over time

1:44:15 ↗ to bring in current housing statistics

1:44:20 ↗ population statistics employment

1:44:22 ↗ statistics the formula has remained the

1:44:26 ↗ same but the inputs to the formula were

1:44:29 ↗ not adjusted and so as a result the the

1:44:34 ↗ housing trust fund contribution has

1:44:37 ↗ remained fairly static and and its

1:44:41 ↗ leverage power therefore has diminished

1:44:44 ↗ and the number of units that we're able

1:44:45 ↗ to afford to construct has has been

1:44:52 ↗ affected because as we all know it's

1:44:55 ↗ more expensive to build houses now than

1:44:57 ↗ it was two decades ago

1:45:00 ↗ so tonight I'm bringing forward the

1:45:03 ↗ executive boards recommendation to

1:45:05 ↗ update the parity formula we refer to

1:45:08 ↗ this as the technical update I'm also

1:45:11 ↗ bringing forward a second ask from the

1:45:15 ↗ Executive Board and that's just to take

1:45:17 ↗ the temperature on whether or not you

1:45:20 ↗ believe the time is right for the arch

1:45:23 ↗ board to begin a conversation with

1:45:26 ↗ member communities about setting an

1:45:28 ↗ aspirational goal for the housing trust

1:45:30 ↗ fund so in the mid 90s the the goal that

1:45:34 ↗ was established was established really

1:45:36 ↗ because city said here's how much I

1:45:39 ↗ would like to contribute and how much

1:45:42 ↗ was generated out of applying the parity

1:45:46 ↗ formula and that Garner's about a 1.5

1:45:50 ↗ million dollars per year of contribution

1:45:54 ↗ that's this used to leverage these

1:45:56 ↗ projects 1.5 does not go as far as it

1:46:01 ↗ used to and so the board along with

1:46:05 ↗ elected officials from member

1:46:07 ↗ communities have met over the last two

1:46:09 ↗ years and begun a conversation about is

1:46:11 ↗ that still the right number for us 1.5

1:46:14 ↗ million dollars or do we wanna set a

1:46:18 ↗ different type of goal do we want to be

1:46:20 ↗ base that goal on the number of housing

1:46:22 ↗ units we'd like to create do we want to

1:46:25 ↗ base it on the what we call the sweet

1:46:28 ↗ spot which is a target range that we

1:46:31 ↗ think does the best to leverage other

1:46:33 ↗ funds and so the board has asked us to

1:46:37 ↗ go and shot that question with all of

1:46:40 ↗ our member City Council's and to ask

1:46:43 ↗ would you be interested in us starting a

1:46:47 ↗ conversation throughout the coalition

1:46:48 ↗ about a new aspirational goal for the

1:46:52 ↗ Housing Trust Fund so I've given you a

1:46:57 ↗ packet that lays out the technical

1:47:02 ↗ adjustment recommendation that is just

1:47:06 ↗ an adjustment to the formula itself it

1:47:10 ↗ would bring it up to today's housing

1:47:13 ↗ employment numbers for each member City

1:47:16 ↗ and establish a new target range that's

1:47:21 ↗ both a min and a max in the case of the

1:47:25 ↗ city of Issaquah we are currently in the

1:47:30 ↗ 2018 budget contributing a number that's

1:47:33 ↗ just below what would be the new men the

1:47:37 ↗ anticipated proposed budget for 2019

1:47:41 ↗ from the mayor will include

1:47:44 ↗ recommendation to raise our voluntary

1:47:49 ↗ minimum contribution to the trust fund

1:47:52 ↗ to the new minimum roughly but we will

1:47:58 ↗ discuss that during budget deliberations

1:48:01 ↗ so tonight really I'm seeking some

1:48:03 ↗ feedback on whether or not you agree

1:48:06 ↗ with the board's recommendation to

1:48:08 ↗ adjust the parity formula for housing

1:48:12 ↗ and employment numbers population

1:48:16 ↗ numbers that are consistent with

1:48:18 ↗ really what is occurring in cities today

1:48:22 ↗ and also a Flay ssin airy factor that

1:48:26 ↗ would be applied on a more regular basis

1:48:30 ↗ so that the formula keeps pace with with

1:48:33 ↗ growth and with inflation and then

1:48:36 ↗ secondly asking if you are also

1:48:40 ↗ interested in member cities and the

1:48:43 ↗ coalition having a conversation about

1:48:44 ↗ setting a more aspirational goal over

1:48:47 ↗ the next two months we will talk about

1:48:49 ↗ budget contribution to the housing trust

1:48:52 ↗ fund as part of budget deliberations yes

1:48:57 ↗ yes yes maybe yes yes maybe yes on

1:49:02 ↗ adjusting to reflect where the realities

1:49:05 ↗ today yes on an inflation bogey no idea

1:49:12 ↗ what to say about aspirational because I

1:49:14 ↗ just have no idea and I think you and I

1:49:17 ↗ have talked a little bit about it to me

1:49:19 ↗ it has to do with how does that compare

1:49:22 ↗ to our historical numbers are there ways

1:49:26 ↗ to contribute to that with you know

1:49:29 ↗ in-kind contributions how does it this

1:49:33 ↗ aspirational target how does it compare

1:49:35 ↗ to and I know some of this work a lot of

1:49:38 ↗ this the answer is going to come back at

1:49:40 ↗ budget time but I just want to be clear

1:49:41 ↗ what what am I thinking you know what

1:49:46 ↗ does this represent in terms of you know

1:49:48 ↗ a change in operational tempo for arch

1:49:51 ↗ and also you know the the the challenge

1:49:55 ↗ that I see with some of the other

1:49:58 ↗ efforts that are ongoing right now to

1:49:59 ↗ address low-income housing and

1:50:02 ↗ homelessness and what this would do you

1:50:06 ↗ know we just a few years ago

1:50:08 ↗ we were very excited because we got to

1:50:10 ↗ ten dollars per person in Human Services

1:50:12 ↗ funding right and so as I think about

1:50:15 ↗ that I think about where we might be in

1:50:18 ↗ terms of what we're asking from our

1:50:19 ↗ residents if we did if we did a big lift

1:50:22 ↗ for this and we did a big lift on

1:50:24 ↗ whatever was coming out of out of other

1:50:27 ↗ mechanisms and so these are all some of

1:50:29 ↗ the some of the concerns I have that

1:50:30 ↗ lead me to say maybe

1:50:31 ↗ on the on the aspirational piece false

1:50:36 ↗ Council President Mart's you fresh my

1:50:39 ↗ memory that I meant to also ensure that

1:50:42 ↗ council members and community members

1:50:45 ↗ understand that the voluntary target for

1:50:47 ↗ the Housing Trust Fund is not only able

1:50:50 ↗ to be satisfied that was our goal with

1:50:54 ↗ cash so general fund contribution but

1:50:57 ↗ also through land dedication and waiver

1:50:59 ↗ of fees or variety of means other

1:51:03 ↗ people's thoughts I'm sorry

1:51:07 ↗ one comment it's about the escalation

1:51:09 ↗ the adjusting and so it's just some

1:51:12 ↗ clarity around if we're talking about

1:51:13 ↗ adjusting that based on consumer price

1:51:16 ↗ index or we were talking about dusting

1:51:19 ↗ it based on the high price of housing

1:51:21 ↗ and that how that changes cpi-w so based

1:51:24 ↗ on sort of wage rate inflation thanks

1:51:29 ↗ thoughts

1:51:31 ↗ councilmember hunt you mentioned the

1:51:34 ↗ need to understand the sweet spot and

1:51:36 ↗ there's some information about that also

1:51:39 ↗ in the memo so how how will the

1:51:42 ↗ coalition go about understanding what is

1:51:44 ↗ a best target level to leverage other

1:51:47 ↗ funding funds etc sure so the executive

1:51:52 ↗ board and the elected official

1:51:55 ↗ representatives from each community have

1:51:57 ↗ met three times over the last two years

1:52:00 ↗ and have had a more robust conversation

1:52:03 ↗ about what is the sweet spot there are

1:52:08 ↗ probably a handful of different ways

1:52:10 ↗ that we could go about taking that

1:52:13 ↗ conversation forward what I would

1:52:15 ↗ envision as a board member is will

1:52:19 ↗ collect this feedback from member

1:52:21 ↗ communities over the next two months

1:52:23 ↗ about you know whether it's a yes of

1:52:25 ↗ maybe or know about feeling comfortable

1:52:29 ↗ with arch engaging in in subsequent

1:52:33 ↗ discussions about a aspirational goal

1:52:37 ↗ and then we may decide that that's too

1:52:41 ↗ difficult of a conversation to do in 15

1:52:43 ↗ cities Simon

1:52:44 ↗ easily and so perhaps we will convene a

1:52:47 ↗ group of elected officials and board

1:52:49 ↗ members to come up with some

1:52:52 ↗ recommendations to then take back out to

1:52:54 ↗ communities I think that probably is

1:52:56 ↗ going to be the most effective way to do

1:52:57 ↗ it okay so with the idea be then if

1:53:01 ↗ councils were interested in an

1:53:03 ↗ aspirational goal that aspirational goal

1:53:05 ↗ would be set by whatever this sweet spot

1:53:07 ↗ level is that is decided through I would

1:53:12 ↗ anticipate that if the feedback from

1:53:14 ↗ member councils is yes we're interested

1:53:17 ↗ in having a conversation about studying

1:53:19 ↗ a more aspirational goal that that

1:53:21 ↗ committee would then come up with some

1:53:24 ↗ recommendations it may involve a

1:53:27 ↗ recommendation that says we should set

1:53:29 ↗ an overall contribution target for all

1:53:32 ↗ the cities collectively that's within

1:53:35 ↗ the sweet spot that's one possibility or

1:53:37 ↗ it might be we think that PSR C has

1:53:43 ↗ indicated we need to create X number of

1:53:46 ↗ units over the next decade and so we're

1:53:48 ↗ going to set our coalition's goal as

1:53:51 ↗ some fraction of that per year so I

1:53:54 ↗ don't know what what those

1:53:56 ↗ recommendations would end up being one

1:53:58 ↗ possibility is that it would be relative

1:54:01 ↗ to the sweet spot comes member Ramos

1:54:07 ↗ just to get into the weeds a little bit

1:54:10 ↗ here arts has done great work over the

1:54:12 ↗ last couple decades for sure I'm no more

1:54:17 ↗ questions on predominantly the work they

1:54:19 ↗ do is building new affordable housing

1:54:22 ↗ units they've taken over someone they've

1:54:23 ↗ done some other things but that's a

1:54:25 ↗ majority of what they do and as times

1:54:27 ↗ now to my mind are changing a bit into

1:54:31 ↗ that model building new affordable

1:54:34 ↗ housing is the most expensive way to get

1:54:36 ↗ there and that model is never going to

1:54:39 ↗ catch up with the reality on the road so

1:54:43 ↗ how I'm interested in how arts would

1:54:46 ↗ also start looking at other ways of

1:54:48 ↗ doing things I'm very concerned about

1:54:51 ↗ preventing the loss of affordable

1:54:52 ↗ housing that already exists yes and

1:54:56 ↗ those kinds of things that could be done

1:54:58 ↗ in in other ways of doing things that

1:55:02 ↗ more models more new things to look at

1:55:05 ↗ other than the standard because that's

1:55:06 ↗ we're losing faster than we're gaining

1:55:09 ↗ and that's that's a model set for

1:55:11 ↗ failure in the long haul so I want to

1:55:14 ↗ make sure we're starting to look at

1:55:15 ↗ broadening the scope and opportunities

1:55:18 ↗ and alternatives that arch looks at

1:55:21 ↗ because I think that's very important in

1:55:23 ↗ the long haul of getting and this and

1:55:25 ↗ even also things like for sale units as

1:55:28 ↗ well as rental units and and they say

1:55:30 ↗ taking over some units that could be on

1:55:35 ↗ the verge of being lost from being

1:55:36 ↗ affordable converted to something else

1:55:38 ↗ or redeveloped those kinds of things to

1:55:40 ↗ stop that that loss which is I think the

1:55:42 ↗ only way we're going to get a handle on

1:55:43 ↗ this absolutely and so the trust fund

1:55:46 ↗ can be used to preserve housing and in

1:55:48 ↗ fact has on many occasions and then it's

1:55:52 ↗ not just new construction and sometimes

1:55:55 ↗ it's land to preserve opportunities for

1:55:58 ↗ new construction

1:55:59 ↗ sometimes it's preservation the

1:56:03 ↗ coalition also has a separate program

1:56:05 ↗ around downpayment assistance so there

1:56:08 ↗ are a variety of activities that support

1:56:11 ↗ either the creation the preservation or

1:56:15 ↗ affordable housing or the ability of

1:56:18 ↗ people to access and remain in

1:56:20 ↗ affordable housing and I went on for a

1:56:24 ↗ while though I'm just I'm just hoping my

1:56:25 ↗ encouragement is that I know they've

1:56:27 ↗ done a little bit of all of that in the

1:56:28 ↗ past I would like to encourage to look

1:56:31 ↗ at those things even more so in a

1:56:33 ↗ broader sense away from the the most

1:56:35 ↗ expensive way of which is building new

1:56:38 ↗ very good thank you

1:56:44 ↗ I also have some is across statistics

1:56:47 ↗ these would be of help as well our city

1:56:52 ↗ of Issaquah general fund contribution

1:56:54 ↗ from 2000 to 2017 2000 is the first year

1:56:57 ↗ we made such a contribution have equaled

1:57:00 ↗ nine hundred and sixty thousand dollars

1:57:03 ↗ our total contribution to a Housing

1:57:07 ↗ Trust Fund again yeah at the nine sixty

1:57:10 ↗ cash to all the land dedication etc has

1:57:13 ↗ been eight point six million dollars six

1:57:16 ↗ point five of that was probably related

1:57:18 ↗ to the YWCA in the highlands so the vast

1:57:21 ↗ majority of it and the total amount of

1:57:27 ↗ development cost that that's supported

1:57:29 ↗ so the value at that point in time when

1:57:31 ↗ it was constructed a hundred and forty

1:57:34 ↗ six million dollars so our cash

1:57:36 ↗ contribution nine hundred and sixty the

1:57:39 ↗ value of that development one hundred

1:57:41 ↗ and forty six million and the total arch

1:57:46 ↗ trust fund value in vested in city of

1:57:51 ↗ Issaquah projects sorry that other

1:57:54 ↗ number was development values so the

1:57:57 ↗ total value that arch contributed to

1:58:00 ↗ projects that occurred in Issaquah was

1:58:03 ↗ fifteen million dollars so we put in

1:58:07 ↗ nine hundred and sixty in cash eight

1:58:10 ↗ point six total fee waiver land

1:58:12 ↗ dedication etc and we got fifteen

1:58:16 ↗ million dollars out of the arch trust

1:58:19 ↗ fund that also included other member

1:58:23 ↗ city contributions to projects that

1:58:25 ↗ occurred in Issaquah and that led to the

1:58:27 ↗ creation of four hundred and fifty seven

1:58:29 ↗ units and six beds in a group home so

1:58:35 ↗ it's a it's a it's a pretty phenomenal

1:58:37 ↗ return on investment

1:58:43 ↗ other questions from Council do you have

1:58:48 ↗ more material you want a precise that's

1:58:50 ↗ that's it and so just looking for if

1:58:53 ↗ there are any other thoughts on shall we

1:58:54 ↗ shall we tell the rest of the arch board

1:58:57 ↗ and other communities that yes we're

1:58:59 ↗ gonna support this technical update to

1:59:03 ↗ the parity formula and then any other

1:59:06 ↗ thoughts on whether now is a good time

1:59:09 ↗ to continue a conversation about sending

1:59:11 ↗ an aspirational goal for the trust fund

1:59:13 ↗ and if the answer is yes to the first on

1:59:17 ↗ the technical update and I'm going to

1:59:18 ↗ prepare a very brief resolution that

1:59:22 ↗ looks like an endorsement of the formula

1:59:24 ↗ and we'll bring that forward for council

1:59:27 ↗ consideration my YES on the technical

1:59:34 ↗ update what's that I would yes I see the

1:59:38 ↗ value of the technical complicate okay

1:59:40 ↗ thank you seeing some good with the

1:59:43 ↗ resolution be in advance of the budget I

1:59:50 ↗ would try to get it prepared just as

1:59:52 ↗ soon as possible so I would anticipate

1:59:54 ↗ it would come forward be acted upon

1:59:57 ↗ before adoption of the budget I think

2:00:00 ↗ there's not a direct relationship there

2:00:03 ↗ it's again voluntary targets we get to

2:00:06 ↗ decide and an annual basis how much we

2:00:08 ↗ want to put in our budget for our

2:00:10 ↗ contribution so I don't think they need

2:00:13 ↗ to be linked all right thanks and I

2:00:15 ↗ agree with the technical okay

2:00:23 ↗ council member Ramos and I'm there too

2:00:25 ↗ and the aspirational side the other

2:00:26 ↗ thing I'd throw out there there's you

2:00:28 ↗ know a lot of talk going on and a lot of

2:00:30 ↗ other things happening in King County in

2:00:31 ↗ in this regard for a lot of things as

2:00:34 ↗ well so I would when we start getting

2:00:36 ↗ more T detail of that I'd like to

2:00:39 ↗ definitely see how those are connecting

2:00:41 ↗ with these other programs to to be most

2:00:44 ↗ efficient and how that that could tie

2:00:45 ↗ again you talk about sweet spot get some

2:00:48 ↗ you know some synergism that gets things

2:00:50 ↗ going and really has good payoff because

2:00:53 ↗ of that something's working together so

2:00:55 ↗ I think that would be a thing that had

2:00:56 ↗ to be tie into that aspirational sign

2:00:58 ↗ okay thank you any other thoughts

2:01:01 ↗ anything else you're looking for from us

2:01:06 ↗ Thanks

2:01:07 ↗ so I was looking at the parity summary

2:01:10 ↗ chart that was in your presentation it

2:01:12 ↗ looks like there are occasionally years

2:01:16 ↗ with really high local investment in

2:01:18 ↗ affordable housing by year in that chart

2:01:20 ↗ and then so there are occasional Peaks

2:01:23 ↗ and I wondered about the efficiency or

2:01:27 ↗ if you could speak to that why it

2:01:28 ↗ happens and also sure it seems like the

2:01:32 ↗ the having an aspirational goal would be

2:01:35 ↗ have it and what the relationship I

2:01:39 ↗ guess would be to this sort of peaking

2:01:41 ↗ that's already that we're already seeing

2:01:42 ↗ a short I'm sure and are you looking at

2:01:44 ↗ sort of the historical charts I'm

2:01:47 ↗ looking at specifically page 40 of 70

2:01:49 ↗ it's attachment 3 parity summary chart

2:01:52 ↗ and has annual support for affordable

2:01:53 ↗ housing and there's two really notable

2:01:56 ↗ yes shorts yeah okay

2:02:00 ↗ yeah so the other ends up being fee

2:02:06 ↗ waivers and lane and dedications largely

2:02:10 ↗ occasionally they are other grants that

2:02:16 ↗ are given to projects the CDBG is each

2:02:21 ↗ cities or the whole coalition's

2:02:25 ↗ Community Development Block Grant that

2:02:27 ↗ we get from federal government it's

2:02:30 ↗ allocated through

2:02:32 ↗ population and census information to

2:02:37 ↗ each municipality all the municipalities

2:02:40 ↗ and arch aggregate that money and an

2:02:44 ↗ arch is the recipient of our CDBG money

2:02:46 ↗ and then it's allocated back out to

2:02:49 ↗ projects and then general fund

2:02:51 ↗ contributions is just what we talked

2:02:53 ↗ about it's the cash contribution from

2:02:55 ↗ each city so the Green does that other

2:02:58 ↗ sources of funding definitely fluctuates

2:03:01 ↗ its dependent on what type of project is

2:03:03 ↗ being pursued or what each community

2:03:06 ↗ decides on a given year to contribute

2:03:11 ↗ there are spikes because there are even

2:03:14 ↗ spikes that we have been seen in just

2:03:15 ↗ the last year you can see 2017 and I'm

2:03:19 ↗ anticipating it for 2018 there were some

2:03:22 ↗ sizable cash contributions from

2:03:25 ↗ municipalities who decided this was

2:03:27 ↗ their top priority issue affordable

2:03:29 ↗ housing and then they decided to take

2:03:32 ↗ general fund balance and make sizable

2:03:36 ↗ contributions to the housing trust fund

2:03:38 ↗ so we do see spikes from time to time

2:03:40 ↗ for a variety of reasons and I think any

2:03:44 ↗ change so that parity formula is not

2:03:46 ↗ gonna change that

2:03:49 ↗ that pattern and on that em'ly

2:03:51 ↗ aspirational goal the aspirational goal

2:03:55 ↗ would just be that it would it would

2:03:57 ↗ help set a new target for the

2:03:59 ↗ organization so right now the

2:04:03 ↗ aspirational goal is that 1.5 million

2:04:06 ↗ dollars like it was from 1996 that

2:04:10 ↗ became the basis for the parity formula

2:04:12 ↗ now we would need to discuss do we want

2:04:16 ↗ to set a new target whether or not we

2:04:18 ↗ actually achieve that target each year

2:04:20 ↗ is going to be up to individual cities

2:04:22 ↗ in terms of their cash contribution or

2:04:24 ↗ other contributions

2:04:31 ↗ other questions

2:04:35 ↗ great alright you with that then any

2:04:39 ↗ closing comments from anybody nobody in

2:04:41 ↗ the nobody from the public has chosen

2:04:43 ↗ just stay with this house never hunt I

2:04:46 ↗ like more information about how if if

2:04:49 ↗ the aspirational goal were to be the

2:04:52 ↗ direction of arch how that would be

2:04:54 ↗ decided just because they feel like it's

2:04:56 ↗ um I would like more information to know

2:04:59 ↗ okay very good and I'd be happy to

2:05:01 ↗ provide that I think over the next

2:05:04 ↗ couple of months we're trying to get

2:05:06 ↗ this input from member cities so I would

2:05:08 ↗ imagine that say in January the board

2:05:11 ↗ will be able to kind of report back out

2:05:13 ↗ to all member cities about what we heard

2:05:15 ↗ and what we're going to do all right and

2:05:20 ↗ any other closing thoughts all right

2:05:23 ↗ thank you City Administrator moon with

2:05:25 ↗ that we are adjourned

2:05:37 ↗ you

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Council / Members (5)

Stacy Goodman

Victoria Hunt

Tola Marts

Bill Ramos

Chris Reh

Staff (5)

Mary Lou Pauly, Mayor

Emily Moon, City Administrator

Terry Scanlan, Attorney (By teleconference)

Tisha Gieser, Deputy City Clerk

Keith Niven, Economic & Development Services Director

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Paul Winterstein