City Council Special Meeting · Tuesday, July 24, 2018 · City Council Digest

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0:13 ↗ good evening and welcome to the Tuesday

0:15 ↗ July 24th Issaquah City Council

0:18 ↗ committee of the whole council meeting

0:19 ↗ as I said council several times in that

0:22 ↗ sentence we're gonna start with I do to

0:25 ↗ 6 4 which is the 2019 community fund

0:27 ↗ capacity grant recommendations from our

0:30 ↗ own Amy Dukes grants coordinator good

0:35 ↗ evening council members I am here

0:38 ↗ tonight to give you just an overview of

0:40 ↗ the 2019 of Community Fund grant

0:44 ↗ recommendations and this program

0:47 ↗ continues to evolve both in the process

0:49 ↗ by which we are reviewing the

0:50 ↗ applications and also by how we're

0:52 ↗ reporting on it to you so in previous

0:55 ↗ years we have gone with a separate

0:57 ↗ agenda bill and also the budgeting

1:00 ↗ process and this year we decided it was

1:02 ↗ more appropriate to bring it to you at

1:04 ↗ Council the whole and then you will see

1:06 ↗ the recommendations during the normal

1:08 ↗ budgeting process and these will be

1:10 ↗ within the mayor's budget and then all

1:13 ↗ of the nonprofit funding area so just to

1:18 ↗ highlight a couple of things that are

1:19 ↗ different this year based on some input

1:22 ↗ from Council last year we did create a

1:25 ↗ community advisory panel and we had that

1:29 ↗ advisory panel review all the

1:31 ↗ applications and make recommendations

1:33 ↗ much like we do for the arts grants or

1:36 ↗ the Human Services grants and then those

1:39 ↗ more afforded to the mayor for her

1:41 ↗ endorsement which she did actually

1:45 ↗ endorsed them all as they were

1:46 ↗ recommended so she made no changes to

1:48 ↗ their recommendations so then you will

1:50 ↗ see these again during budgeting time in

1:53 ↗ her budget

1:54 ↗ I can reiterate the criteria to you so

2:00 ↗ the the review panel used these

2:02 ↗ criterias their main basis for

2:05 ↗ evaluating the applications

2:06 ↗ they were looking for applications that

2:08 ↗ showed organizational learning

2:10 ↗ development and mission completion that

2:13 ↗ provided a compelling reason to engage

2:15 ↗ in capacity building work that were had

2:19 ↗ relevant technical managerial staff

2:22 ↗ ability and capacity demonstrated that

2:24 ↗ had a

2:25 ↗ regi for achieving and measuring the

2:27 ↗ impact that they provide and that their

2:30 ↗ proposed use of funds was detailed and

2:32 ↗ justified and that they provided

2:34 ↗ supporting cost estimates and and I want

2:39 ↗ to also remind you that in January the

2:42 ↗ groups that receive funding will come to

2:45 ↗ you and provide a presentation to let

2:47 ↗ you know exactly how they met the

2:49 ↗ objectives that they set out to meet so

2:53 ↗ if you have questions about the

2:56 ↗ individual applications I'm happy to

2:58 ↗ entertain any questions you have about

3:00 ↗ the overall funding recommendations come

3:05 ↗ to understand thanks Amy

3:07 ↗ or of a question about timing so the

3:10 ↗ they're gonna be in the 2019 budget

3:13 ↗ proposal and they are in they are what

3:18 ↗ they will be in the 2019 budget proposal

3:22 ↗ but they're gonna report to us in

3:23 ↗ January oh I'm sorry

3:25 ↗ so the the ones that were given this

3:28 ↗ year will report to you in January on

3:30 ↗ their outcomes the ones that are given

3:32 ↗ for 2019 will report to you in January

3:34 ↗ 2020 so that's new I'm sorry this year

3:37 ↗ was the first year that we had them

3:38 ↗ actually come to you and a report about

3:40 ↗ how how what impact they made versus

3:44 ↗ presenting to you on the front end but

3:46 ↗ they're never coming back to you to tell

3:47 ↗ you how it went

3:48 ↗ so we have changed that okay thank you

3:53 ↗ that's my Ramos I'd like to compliment

3:57 ↗ the changes I think this is nice to get

4:00 ↗ a little more handle on a little more

4:01 ↗ transparency the the group review and

4:04 ↗ you got good folks on there as far as

4:06 ↗ the folks reviewing these and making

4:08 ↗ recommendations I like that process and

4:11 ↗ just have a few questions on how some of

4:13 ↗ them were I'm about and so forth so you

4:16 ↗ took two of them and decided to put them

4:19 ↗ under contract versus fund under this

4:23 ↗ system so well that funding then come

4:27 ↗ through like parks department and

4:29 ↗ and go to them under that budget that's

4:31 ↗ a great question actually they the

4:33 ↗ funding will still come through through

4:36 ↗ the mayor's the executive department

4:37 ↗ budget it will still be in the category

4:40 ↗ with nonprofits it's just a slightly

4:43 ↗ different way in which we contract with

4:46 ↗ the organization's so for 2018 we just

4:51 ↗ have a handful of groups like friends of

4:53 ↗ squaws Salmon Hatchery Mountains - Sound

4:56 ↗ Chamber of Commerce and the history

4:59 ↗ museums that we that we use contract for

5:03 ↗ service process with and those are

5:05 ↗ because they're more general operating

5:07 ↗ and support and they are we each year we

5:11 ↗ evaluate what services we need from

5:13 ↗ those organizations but they're more

5:14 ↗ ongoing the capacity fund the community

5:18 ↗ grants are really meant to be a one or

5:21 ↗ maybe two time infusion of cash to

5:24 ↗ really help them get to a new you know a

5:28 ↗ mission objective or to get over a hump

5:31 ↗ that you know they might have with

5:33 ↗ staffing or professional development

5:34 ↗ things like that so it's not really

5:37 ↗ intended to be more about ongoing

5:39 ↗ service that they're providing to the

5:41 ↗ community and I understand that and so

5:44 ↗ with that I'd ask the friends would like

5:47 ↗ some managed this is a fourth year

5:48 ↗ running it it's basically the same

5:50 ↗ project right and when we talked about

5:53 ↗ it first it was the first time we proved

5:55 ↗ that it was a one-time deal to get a

5:58 ↗ half funding of a person to become their

6:00 ↗ fundraisers so they could raise that in

6:02 ↗ the second year was kind of okay we'll

6:03 ↗ give them another year to basically

6:05 ↗ raise their own funds to be

6:07 ↗ self-supporting so and I love what they

6:10 ↗ do wrong but we're in the fourth year of

6:12 ↗ it seems like the same thing of getting

6:15 ↗ them started where they can raise their

6:17 ↗ own funding or expected that to be like

6:18 ↗ you mentioned a year or two right and

6:21 ↗ now in the fourth year so I'm just

6:22 ↗ questioning what it looks like and then

6:24 ↗ you put it into a contract for service

6:25 ↗ and it looks like that's just accepted

6:27 ↗ as an ongoing thing for quite a long

6:30 ↗ time

6:31 ↗ right so they the contracts for service

6:33 ↗ do get evaluated every year but the

6:36 ↗ panel recommended that if they were

6:38 ↗ going to continue to ask for general

6:40 ↗ operating support that it really

6:42 ↗ didn't make sense to be in this

6:44 ↗ competitive category because their

6:45 ↗ application is quite different they

6:47 ↗ weren't talking about a project they

6:49 ↗ were really talking about the entire

6:50 ↗ organization and the panel felt like

6:55 ↗ they provide a real service to the

6:57 ↗ community being an advocate for the

6:59 ↗ State Park so that was their

7:02 ↗ recommendation which the mayor endorsed

7:05 ↗ but you know it I know that it has come

7:07 ↗ up year to year so then I understand and

7:12 ↗ they do do great stuff I'm just trying

7:14 ↗ to figure out how this is ongoing into

7:16 ↗ the future as we're looking at that long

7:18 ↗ term because that's like you say it's

7:20 ↗ not it's not the goal of this funding

7:23 ↗ source right and you're putting it under

7:24 ↗ contract which makes sense but then it

7:28 ↗ looks like it's taking out of this and

7:29 ↗ now becoming just an ongoing cost so I'm

7:31 ↗ trying to figure out how that you know

7:33 ↗ so next year will they reapply again for

7:35 ↗ this funding I mean if we choose to and

7:38 ↗ still come under this funding stream but

7:40 ↗ again just instead of using a grant use

7:42 ↗ the contract right so the more

7:44 ↗ appropriate ask if they just as an

7:46 ↗ example if they were going to come back

7:48 ↗ to this fund next year would really be

7:50 ↗ to ask for the type of staffing support

7:53 ↗ that would enable them to fundraise so

7:56 ↗ that they can support staff it wouldn't

7:58 ↗ be to just keep funding the existing

8:01 ↗ staff that they have and so I guess this

8:03 ↗ kind of an annual you know decision

8:06 ↗ that's made and recommendation that's

8:08 ↗ made and this is the recommendation

8:09 ↗ that's being made for 2019 but you all

8:12 ↗ can certainly discuss that you say I'm

8:19 ↗ deputy council president patís thank you

8:24 ↗ thank you Amy for the I think that more

8:30 ↗ information about these the grants in

8:35 ↗ general and the community fund grants is

8:38 ↗ really important I know that over the

8:40 ↗ years we've we've had a lot of questions

8:42 ↗ that have come up between the Human

8:44 ↗ Services grants and now the grants that

8:48 ↗ fall under

8:49 ↗ this that used to be the mayor's grants

8:52 ↗ and being able to better and further

8:56 ↗ define the overview and the panel and

8:59 ↗ just having the information in front of

9:02 ↗ us early I think is is a great step

9:06 ↗ forward and I I to really I have I have

9:12 ↗ some similar questions to councilmember

9:15 ↗ Ramos in with the the two groups that

9:18 ↗ are that have come forward and are being

9:21 ↗ pulled out and moving over to contract I

9:24 ↗ mean I guess one of the and both both

9:29 ↗ groups do amazing work and so being able

9:32 ↗ to to put them in you know with the

9:37 ↗ contract that that would allow ongoing

9:39 ↗ is something that would be considered

9:41 ↗ but I think that one of the high-level

9:44 ↗ questions that gets lost a little bit is

9:47 ↗ maybe for groups as what is the

9:50 ↗ difference between the what I would do

9:54 ↗ to go forward with the grant but the

9:56 ↗ Human Services Commission and then the

9:58 ↗ community grants and then this seems

10:00 ↗ like it's opening a third pathway or

10:03 ↗ something new that there are a couple

10:06 ↗ groups that have applied over and over

10:08 ↗ and now there we need to contract

10:10 ↗ because could you just speak a little

10:11 ↗ bit well in the instance of both of

10:14 ↗ those organizations they are not ones

10:17 ↗ that really are very eligible for Human

10:20 ↗ Services or Arts Commission support

10:23 ↗ unless they're and in the case of

10:25 ↗ Friends of Lake Sammamish they actually

10:27 ↗ get some arts grants to do some arts

10:29 ↗ programming but there really isn't

10:31 ↗ another funding category available to

10:34 ↗ nonprofits that don't sort of fall into

10:36 ↗ the arts and culture or the Human

10:39 ↗ Services category and so that would be

10:43 ↗ one reasons like we do support Mountains

10:45 ↗ to sound through a contract for service

10:48 ↗ and so there's there are just kind of a

10:51 ↗ handful of these nonprofit organizations

10:53 ↗ that you know are felt like important to

10:57 ↗ the community providing services that

10:58 ↗ the city

11:00 ↗ once provided but does not provide

11:02 ↗ itself so but it's an interesting

11:06 ↗ collection of nonprofit support and

11:10 ↗ these were all funded through mayor's

11:13 ↗ discretionary grants previously so there

11:16 ↗ was in the past I'd say five years there

11:19 ↗ was some sort of parsing out which ones

11:21 ↗ are more like a contract for service and

11:23 ↗ which ones should really be put into a

11:26 ↗ competitive grant program so it's kind

11:30 ↗ of still evolving I would say and it

11:33 ↗ does change year to year for sure so it

11:36 ↗ sounds like as as the community grants

11:39 ↗ have become more defined than that has

11:42 ↗ also sort of pointed to these great

11:44 ↗ groups in the city that are falling

11:47 ↗ outside of yeah these two areas still

11:51 ↗ need to be and want to be able to apply

11:54 ↗ for help do the great work they do but

11:57 ↗ they're but they're outside really the

11:59 ↗ scope that's correct

12:01 ↗ you articulated that much better than I

12:03 ↗ did I'll ask so we have we look at our

12:10 ↗ dollars per capita into Human Services

12:13 ↗ right and we had previously a goal of

12:17 ↗ $10 per capita right so how is we create

12:21 ↗ this sort of third category how does

12:24 ↗ that factor into when do we win if if at

12:31 ↗ all do we take a holistic overview of

12:33 ↗ all of our human services spending and

12:35 ↗ understand what it looks like in total

12:39 ↗ and that's a good question I there is a

12:43 ↗ exhibit with the memo that provided sort

12:46 ↗ of table of which ones also received

12:49 ↗ funding from either arts or Human

12:51 ↗ Services so you can see that some of

12:53 ↗ them are receiving funding from multiple

12:56 ↗ categories the review panel did take

12:59 ↗ that information into consideration as

13:01 ↗ well when they were looking at the

13:04 ↗ requests they also wanted to know what

13:07 ↗ the groups were receiving other funding

13:10 ↗ from the city for

13:12 ↗ and so we definitely haven't kind of

13:14 ↗ added that to the per capita spending or

13:17 ↗ anything like that to blend the programs

13:19 ↗ but there was definitely an awareness of

13:21 ↗ their funding that they were receiving

13:23 ↗ and in some cases that did influence the

13:26 ↗ recommendation that the groups received

13:29 ↗ from this review panel so nominally what

13:33 ↗ does xx this time in at this point of

13:37 ↗ the year in 2019 what's it going to look

13:39 ↗ like for councils review of these two

13:43 ↗ new the two organizations are going to

13:47 ↗ go into this new path and if they were

13:49 ↗ to follow the same path as the other

13:52 ↗ organizations that have contracts for

13:53 ↗ service you would see them listed in the

13:55 ↗ proposed budget each year and that they

13:58 ↗ wouldn't necessarily come to you for you

14:02 ↗ know a formal presentation we can

14:05 ↗ certainly add all the nonprofit's that

14:08 ↗ receive any type of funding to that

14:10 ↗ presentation but currently so for

14:14 ↗ example in 2018 you all saw the groups

14:16 ↗ that received Community Fund funding you

14:19 ↗ didn't see the contracts for service

14:21 ↗ groups come to present to you but we

14:23 ↗ could certainly I would assume add that

14:27 ↗ so contracts for services are our

14:32 ↗ organizations that the city hires to do

14:35 ↗ specific things right correct

14:37 ↗ how is Friends of Lake Sammamish like

14:39 ↗ that well they're providing a connection

14:43 ↗ and their liaison with the city and with

14:46 ↗ the state park system and communicating

14:50 ↗ between us and it I know from arts

14:54 ↗ projects that I've worked on is very

14:56 ↗ challenging to reach the correct person

14:59 ↗ at the state park system so I know that

15:01 ↗ they have provided that sort of

15:03 ↗ communication channel and that advocacy

15:06 ↗ channel for the city but we have our own

15:08 ↗ communication is directly to state parks

15:10 ↗ right so it's not like they're acting as

15:12 ↗ our as our lobbyists with the state

15:14 ↗ parks right no but they are definitely

15:18 ↗ there for example the new playground

15:21 ↗ that was

15:23 ↗ built at the park really happened

15:26 ↗ because they were able to do private

15:28 ↗ fundraising and bring a large sum of

15:31 ↗ those funds to the table to make that

15:33 ↗ happen which if they did not do that I

15:35 ↗ imagine that playground would not have

15:38 ↗ been constructed councilmember Rea no

15:45 ↗ just a couple fun questions for you

15:48 ↗ interesting so I noticed and nobody got

15:51 ↗ everything that they wanted and in the

15:53 ↗ in terms of the amount requested versus

15:55 ↗ the amount granted but I did notice that

15:58 ↗ there was some disparity between a sum

16:00 ↗ that we got like 90 plus percent and

16:02 ↗ some that were in there 30 percent range

16:04 ↗ I'm just curious what the what the

16:06 ↗ criteria was used to say how much we

16:08 ↗ fund it of of each request so it was a

16:12 ↗ panel of humans so definitely more art

16:15 ↗ than science but the way that we did the

16:20 ↗ review this year was to have all of the

16:22 ↗ reviewer reviewers use the criteria to

16:26 ↗ come up with a funding amount that they

16:29 ↗ felt matched how well the application

16:33 ↗ addressed the criteria but they did take

16:36 ↗ other things into consideration so they

16:38 ↗ did take in that other support from

16:40 ↗ other city funding programs they also

16:45 ↗ scrutinized the budgets pretty

16:47 ↗ significantly and so some of them

16:49 ↗ actually had some things in their

16:50 ↗ budgets that really weren't fundable by

16:53 ↗ the city for example the Eastside

16:57 ↗ Friends of seniors only got half of

16:59 ↗ their request because half of their

17:00 ↗ request was for hotels and meals while

17:03 ↗ they're at this conferences so the

17:05 ↗ committee wanted to fund their

17:08 ↗ professional development but could

17:09 ↗ really only fund their attendance at the

17:11 ↗ conference registration part of that so

17:16 ↗ there's sort of a little story I guess

17:18 ↗ behind all of them and I'm happy to

17:22 ↗ provide it if that is helpful but if

17:24 ↗ they really looked at the budgets to

17:26 ↗ make sure that we could fund what they

17:27 ↗ were asking for and I don't know that we

17:30 ↗ need to go into a tight

17:31 ↗ I just think in the in being transparent

17:35 ↗ and fair so that you know someone says

17:38 ↗ wow I got 30% of what I asked for and

17:40 ↗ they got 90% of what they asked for

17:42 ↗ how come because it it'll just make it

17:47 ↗ easier for people to understand and then

17:49 ↗ one one final question for you and these

17:51 ↗ are capacity-building grants correct so

17:53 ↗ I think I'm picking up on where council

17:57 ↗ member Ramos was going which is if we

17:59 ↗ have things that are really contracts

18:00 ↗ for services are those really

18:02 ↗ capacity-building or are those ongoing

18:03 ↗ services and so should we find a

18:06 ↗ different funding mechanism than then

18:08 ↗ truly capacity building because in my

18:11 ↗ belief around capacity building we

18:13 ↗ should see it once or twice and then

18:15 ↗ they should they should build that

18:17 ↗ capacity and come back with something

18:19 ↗ new and fun and exciting for us to do

18:20 ↗ correct and that was why the panel

18:22 ↗ recommended that that was moved to the

18:24 ↗ contract for service and I mean they

18:27 ↗ certainly endorse both both of those

18:28 ↗ organizations as providing excellent

18:30 ↗ services that the the city desires and

18:32 ↗ but it was as much that as it was these

18:37 ↗ don't belong in this category and

18:39 ↗ therefore it need to be in that other

18:42 ↗ category so I actually kinda member we

18:48 ↗ just I'm so I have a question about sort

18:57 ↗ of the long-term trends in the asks

19:00 ↗ versus the amount that's being given

19:02 ↗ overall and thank you for answering the

19:06 ↗ questions I had emails but I think I

19:09 ↗ recall that when we were talking about

19:11 ↗ the human services grant there's this

19:12 ↗ increase as the population grows which

19:15 ↗ would be expected but there's an

19:16 ↗ increase in that asks over time and

19:18 ↗ there's increase also in the

19:19 ↗ organizations that are coming forward

19:20 ↗ and applying for grants and then that

19:23 ↗ doesn't seem to be the case with these

19:25 ↗ and so I wondered if you could talk

19:26 ↗ about that because the trend is actually

19:29 ↗ that this total amount asked is less

19:31 ↗ this year than these years it is less

19:34 ↗ this year I'm I think it's because the

19:36 ↗ nature of the funding it really is

19:38 ↗ intended to be capacity building so

19:41 ↗ there probably are a lot of organ

19:43 ↗ Asians that would love some funding but

19:45 ↗ they don't exactly have a project that

19:46 ↗ fits this at this moment in time we have

19:50 ↗ had we've turned away groups this is the

19:53 ↗ first year that everyone that requested

19:55 ↗ funding is being recommended for funding

19:57 ↗ we have had years where we've let groups

19:59 ↗ know that your request just simply

20:02 ↗ doesn't meet the capacity-building

20:04 ↗ funding pool so I think this may be this

20:08 ↗ is the fourth year that we've changed

20:12 ↗ the guidelines to be capacity building

20:14 ↗ specific and I think that some of that

20:16 ↗ decrease in request is just our

20:19 ↗ nonprofits starting to better understand

20:22 ↗ what this funding program is meant for

20:25 ↗ and so only applying if they have an

20:28 ↗ appropriate program okay and how do you

20:31 ↗ let the let organizations know that this

20:35 ↗ capacity grant is available how do you

20:38 ↗ communicate with them initially it is

20:40 ↗ communicated out through all of the

20:42 ↗ city's traditional channels of our

20:45 ↗ e-news and on our website as well as all

20:50 ↗ of the staff members that service

20:52 ↗ nonprofits and our communities send it

20:54 ↗ out to all of their list so Human

20:57 ↗ Services staff person would send it to

20:59 ↗ all the Human Services organizations

21:01 ↗ that have ever applied same thing for

21:03 ↗ arts for Parks for economic development

21:09 ↗ wasn't me understand thank you Amy

21:11 ↗ I appreciate your time here so the

21:14 ↗ contracts for service is so that does

21:16 ↗ have my attention and I I do agree and

21:18 ↗ you've already heard this evening and

21:20 ↗ thank you for the information that's in

21:21 ↗ the letter that talks about when we

21:23 ↗ first funded the Friends group and for

21:26 ↗ just I was I was highly involved with

21:29 ↗ that and beginning a matter of fact the

21:31 ↗ administration originally tight turned

21:33 ↗ them down and we asked them to come

21:36 ↗ anyway and make pitch directly to the

21:37 ↗ council and during that process they got

21:40 ↗ their nonprofit status and all of a

21:42 ↗ sudden they were alleged eligible and we

21:44 ↗ called upon Sammamish I said come on do

21:46 ↗ it now so let's get these guys off the

21:47 ↗ ground and that was always with the

21:50 ↗ strong

21:51 ↗ commitment that they would develop a

21:52 ↗ fundraising development capacity and and

21:56 ↗ and so that I'm disappointed that that

21:59 ↗ hasn't happened and I don't know the

22:00 ↗ reasons why or why not but this I

22:03 ↗ understand this recommendation it really

22:06 ↗ doesn't feel like the same contracts as

22:08 ↗ I think the chamber is down home fourth

22:10 ↗ of July

22:10 ↗ it's just specific to the very specific

22:12 ↗ so we used to run that parade and now

22:16 ↗ the chamber does it for us History

22:18 ↗ Museum is probably for because of the

22:20 ↗ archiving and just for the for the

22:23 ↗ preservation of historical artifacts and

22:26 ↗ Records I mean that's that work

22:27 ↗ contracting that service for them and

22:30 ↗ you said mountains to sound Greenway

22:31 ↗ what do you know what they are there's

22:33 ↗ is I don't know specifically so so

22:37 ↗ that's okay the details but but so this

22:39 ↗ it feels like a stretch to me to put

22:42 ↗ actually both of these organizations in

22:44 ↗ there I mean they're great organizations

22:45 ↗ that do things that we value I

22:47 ↗ personally value I know member many of

22:49 ↗ the community value and we hope with

22:50 ↗ their successful long term there's no

22:52 ↗ doubt about all that but this has gone a

22:54 ↗ little askew that we that it says right

22:56 ↗ in here for friends its organization's

22:59 ↗ operations in its entirety that is

23:03 ↗ that's not yeah I mean if if you at the

23:08 ↗ budget that they've provided in their

23:10 ↗ application there their budget is

23:13 ↗ primarily status stuff right is I'm just

23:17 ↗ saying that when I really compare it to

23:19 ↗ the I compare the history and kind of

23:21 ↗ what was the promise when we brought it

23:22 ↗ and we decided to fund them originally

23:24 ↗ this hasn't really worked out that way

23:26 ↗ and now to be in the contract for

23:29 ↗ service category well it's it's gone off

23:33 ↗ a little bit more so I am very

23:36 ↗ interested in learning hearing more

23:38 ↗ because it about their plans and whether

23:42 ↗ or not they're really going to develop

23:43 ↗ this development or fundraising

23:45 ↗ capability because without that and we

23:48 ↗ can't be though they they're they're a

23:50 ↗ Department of the city if we're

23:51 ↗ providing a hundred percent of their

23:52 ↗ funds and and and and so we have to have

23:55 ↗ some conversation here that doesn't

23:57 ↗ that's not quite what we envisioned and

23:59 ↗ the commitment we were trying to make

24:01 ↗ three years ago when we first funded

24:03 ↗ them I'm not as familiar with the trails

24:06 ↗ club but it says in the document serving

24:09 ↗ as a valuable link among the volunteers

24:11 ↗ trail users and the city and I

24:13 ↗ understand that lays on role but they

24:15 ↗ get it and it sounds like a slight

24:16 ↗ redefinition of the contract for service

24:19 ↗ when you consider parades and historical

24:21 ↗ stuff that the other groups do so I'm

24:23 ↗ just raising just a little yellow flag

24:25 ↗ for you so you know where my head is I

24:27 ↗ know that these are still going to come

24:29 ↗ through the budgeting process and it

24:31 ↗ would it would I would be happy to get

24:35 ↗ more detail maybe testimony from those

24:38 ↗ organizations about about you know about

24:41 ↗ their longevity going forward because

24:43 ↗ because this especially at a hundred

24:46 ↗ percent of operation that's that's

24:48 ↗ counter to kind of unwritten city policy

24:51 ↗ for nonprofits so this is actually not

24:54 ↗ 100 percent of their budget but the but

24:57 ↗ the request would cover and the

25:00 ↗ recommendation covers operations it's

25:03 ↗ not a project or program okay so in the

25:06 ↗ memo it says operations operations in

25:10 ↗ organizations operations in its entirety

25:12 ↗ so I meant that I took that to be the

25:14 ↗ entire operation sorry that is not

25:16 ↗ completely clear it is not the the

25:19 ↗ amount would just cover basically

25:22 ↗ staffing and general operations but it's

25:25 ↗ not their entire budget okay thank you

25:28 ↗ so that the way that's written yeah not

25:34 ↗ their entire budget that's a big deal

25:36 ↗ and as far as the others in capacity

25:38 ↗ again I think this is I think it's a

25:40 ↗ great program that the city does I mean

25:42 ↗ it's very rare that a nonprofits had

25:43 ↗ access to public funds for capacity

25:47 ↗ building and we I mean it's a great

25:50 ↗ thing that our community does every one

25:51 ↗ of them benefit and I thought that the

25:53 ↗ the reports we got last January for what

25:56 ↗ happened in 2017 that was fantastic to

25:59 ↗ come in and afterwards and have people

26:01 ↗ tell us how they benefited from this and

26:04 ↗ I think that's a that's felt like a

26:06 ↗ valuable partnership for all of us so I

26:09 ↗ appreciate the way that's unfolding

26:11 ↗ glad and I'm looking forward to what

26:14 ↗ we're gonna hear January and January

26:15 ↗ after that and thank you

26:17 ↗ deputy council president batiste thank

26:20 ↗ you so I am as as I'm looking through

26:24 ↗ this just a couple of thoughts I I would

26:28 ↗ echo some of the questions and and

26:30 ↗ comments that councilmember winter Stein

26:33 ↗ had just made and to get more

26:36 ↗ information about that I know that you

26:39 ↗ know over the years as we've looked at

26:42 ↗ Human Services grants and then capacity

26:45 ↗ building and now we're talking about a

26:48 ↗ sort of this this third area is is just

26:52 ↗ really trying to understand from from

26:56 ↗ you know a 10,000 foot level what

27:00 ↗ everyone is applying for and and trying

27:02 ↗ to sort of bring that together I mean I

27:05 ↗ guess I'm constantly trying to bring all

27:07 ↗ of that together under one umbrella so I

27:10 ↗ can better understand it but I and and

27:13 ↗ we had also talked about the $10 per

27:15 ↗ capita which would my understanding

27:18 ↗ would be that that would only be

27:19 ↗ speaking about the Human Services grants

27:22 ↗ and so lots of questions that have come

27:25 ↗ up but the other comment that I wanted

27:27 ↗ to make is that over the years this has

27:30 ↗ gotten so much better I've watched

27:33 ↗ everything evolve on the Human Services

27:35 ↗ side in terms of how they are analyzing

27:39 ↗ all of the grants and the criteria

27:42 ↗ they're using and now this program is

27:44 ↗ also building out and we're getting so

27:48 ↗ much more information and questions are

27:50 ↗ are popping up as we do that but I feel

27:53 ↗ like all of these processes are getting

27:57 ↗ stronger and it's starting to kind of

27:59 ↗ come together under that umbrella which

28:01 ↗ is has always been important for me I've

28:05 ↗ always wanted to see it that way and the

28:08 ↗ last comment that I wanted to make is

28:09 ↗ that having the review panel I think is

28:12 ↗ really powerful and I and one thing that

28:14 ↗ I really love seeing is that we brought

28:18 ↗ together different Commission's to form

28:21 ↗ that panel which is something that

28:24 ↗ we've talked about in the past as is

28:26 ↗ just getting that connection between the

28:29 ↗ the Commission's of the city and that's

28:31 ↗ one way that we're doing that so I did I

28:34 ↗ think that there's a lot of good work

28:35 ↗ and things are evolving but as you've

28:39 ↗ heard from some of the questions we

28:40 ↗ probably I'm thinking more information

28:43 ↗ would be right in that area

28:46 ↗ that's remember Ramos thank you again I

28:50 ↗ said I love I love the process this year

28:52 ↗ for sure and I really like the one like

28:54 ↗ encompassed Northwest is a new one

28:56 ↗ coming in that's really capacity

28:57 ↗ building that's adding a location better

29:00 ↗ in town here that's that's the classic

29:02 ↗ one that really fits perfectly in this

29:03 ↗ this situation so I like that I'm going

29:07 ↗ back to the friends like Sammamish one

29:08 ↗ time and I have a suggestion because I'm

29:11 ↗ afraid if we put this under a contract

29:13 ↗ that it gets lost next year and I'd like

29:17 ↗ to keep it very visible and I'd say to

29:21 ↗ keep it under the grant form so the next

29:23 ↗ year if they come back they need to come

29:25 ↗ back through this process and somehow

29:26 ↗ doesn't get lost in some kind of you

29:29 ↗ know contract thing that we're not aware

29:31 ↗ of because it is turn in it is something

29:33 ↗ different to me

29:34 ↗ that is going to operations compared to

29:37 ↗ these coops trails Club that's me that's

29:39 ↗ a volunteer coordinator that's

29:40 ↗ coordinating things that that fits under

29:42 ↗ our parks department to work with them

29:44 ↗ to do all that that fits that that

29:47 ↗ definition for me under a contract but

29:49 ↗ the Friends of Lake Sammamish that just

29:52 ↗ doesn't quite get there for me so I like

29:55 ↗ to have you know reconsider keeping it

29:56 ↗ very visible in this project grant

29:59 ↗ process there are no way so if they come

30:01 ↗ back next year we can continue talking

30:03 ↗ about this because I do think this is

30:05 ↗ something I don't want to get lost also

30:07 ↗ ongoing funding somewhere that's just

30:08 ↗ really not visible every year that we're

30:10 ↗ looking at because it's the point of

30:15 ↗ this was very different and where it's

30:16 ↗ going and now it's just funding staff

30:18 ↗ that's not the point we originally

30:20 ↗ started with for sure I want to build

30:22 ↗ off that a little bit I think

30:24 ↗ holistically the subject of Human

30:28 ↗ Services grants and sort of community

30:31 ↗ grants I I would like to ask

30:33 ↗ councilmember Rey

30:35 ↗ what he thinks about the idea of maybe

30:37 ↗ asking the administration to bring this

30:39 ↗ back to services as sort of a larger

30:41 ↗ topic and talk about how we want to work

30:43 ↗ this in 2019 and I don't want to put any

30:45 ↗ words in your mouth but I would love to

30:48 ↗ hear your thoughts I think because I was

30:50 ↗ about to raise my hand your timing is

30:53 ↗ perfect I hear those things called grant

30:55 ↗ program integration we have a lot of

30:56 ↗ flat grant programs all very kind of

30:58 ↗ targeted in different ways I'd like to

31:00 ↗ see us find a way to manage them

31:04 ↗ holistically and in an integrated

31:08 ↗ fashion so we get the biggest bang for a

31:09 ↗ buck and so I would love to see the

31:10 ↗ administration come back to services and

31:12 ↗ have a discussion about how we can go

31:15 ↗ about making something like that happen

31:17 ↗ Thank You council president marks all

31:19 ↗ right so we don't take any action this

31:21 ↗ evening but certainly some

31:23 ↗ administration was looking for some

31:25 ↗ feedbacks and feedback was offered other

31:27 ↗ other questions comments

31:31 ↗ I'm so member hunt I think so we had

31:35 ↗ some discussion about what the - what

31:38 ↗ the - nonprofits that are recommended to

31:41 ↗ be moved to contract for service what

31:43 ↗ they and what their proposal would

31:44 ↗ actually have covered and I think it

31:47 ↗ might also be helpful in the bigger

31:48 ↗ discussion about what's being more

31:52 ↗ information about what is being covered

31:53 ↗ under these capacity grants I think it

31:55 ↗ might be helpful because my

31:57 ↗ understanding which is and based on this

32:00 ↗ graph that's on the screen right now is

32:01 ↗ that these were for specifically for

32:06 ↗ targeted staffing and then for friends

32:07 ↗ at Lake Sammamish also for marketing and

32:09 ↗ outreach I mean I think that depending

32:12 ↗ on how exactly that fits into their

32:14 ↗ operations that could be also capacity

32:16 ↗ so I think to see how they fit into the

32:20 ↗ recommendations it would be good to have

32:22 ↗ more information about those and then to

32:24 ↗ be able to compare them to the other

32:27 ↗ recommendations but overall I think that

32:30 ↗ my inclination based on the information

32:33 ↗ is that they do provide services for the

32:36 ↗ city and so they could be considered

32:38 ↗ under this contract for service and it

32:42 ↗ would just be helpful to have more

32:43 ↗ information to sort of

32:45 ↗ confirm that and then I I also really

32:49 ↗ appreciate the idea of looking at the

32:50 ↗ bigger bigger picture about how all of

32:53 ↗ the community grants fit together so

32:55 ↗ that will be I think a really good

32:57 ↗ conversation I think also I'll be

33:01 ↗ interested to see because as I mentioned

33:03 ↗ I think the Human Services grants there

33:05 ↗ was there's a trend increasing in those

33:07 ↗ asks and there's a trend increasing in

33:10 ↗ the community needs as our population

33:12 ↗ grows and then for this program for

33:14 ↗ whatever reason that asks have decreased

33:16 ↗ a little bit and so I wonder if there's

33:19 ↗ maybe a need also for more outreach so

33:22 ↗ the new nonprofits which are the ones

33:23 ↗ that we want to see come forward for the

33:25 ↗ first time with these capacity grants

33:27 ↗ would know about the program as was

33:31 ↗ pointed out capacity grants we want to

33:32 ↗ see we don't want to see the same groups

33:35 ↗ coming forward over and again with the

33:36 ↗ same projects we will kind of want to

33:38 ↗ see new what new projects coming

33:40 ↗ forwards and so I would think that that

33:42 ↗ would be increasing in sort of a similar

33:44 ↗ pattern and so it would be good to look

33:45 ↗ at them together and then see what the

33:47 ↗ options would be for how to make the

33:50 ↗ different programs work together in a

33:52 ↗ complementary way thank you other

33:56 ↗ questions or comments nope with that

34:00 ↗ I'll open it is there anyone in the

34:02 ↗ public that wishes to speak to this

34:03 ↗ issue mr. Kapler

34:14 ↗ David Kepler 255 southeast Andrews it's

34:18 ↗ too bad Stacy's not here she was the pro

34:20 ↗ bono attorney then we formed Friends of

34:24 ↗ Lake Sammamish State Park and could give

34:25 ↗ you a little more information about

34:27 ↗ their ongoing efforts and their

34:30 ↗ importance to the city in terms of the

34:33 ↗ trails Club it's kind of you know we

34:36 ↗ don't charge for our hikes we offer over

34:38 ↗ a hundred a year we give good it we have

34:41 ↗ good insurance to cover anybody that's

34:43 ↗ hurt on a hike we've never had a claim

34:44 ↗ but we still have that insurance so we

34:46 ↗ have a lot of costs and a lot of people

34:48 ↗ in the club just don't bother submitting

34:52 ↗ any costs that you have I forgot to

34:54 ↗ submit my one hundred and five dollar

34:57 ↗ you know booth fee from last year so

35:00 ↗ this year I might remember but you know

35:03 ↗ it's just that's how they are the

35:05 ↗ organization works in terms of

35:08 ↗ volunteering most of our work and has

35:11 ↗ been with King County and DNR to be

35:14 ↗ blunt the city has been in the past

35:17 ↗ harder to work with and I think that's

35:19 ↗ changing or changed but we have this

35:22 ↗ other pattern we do trail work all the

35:25 ↗ time for DNR and County especially DNR

35:28 ↗ and basically on the part you see from

35:31 ↗ Issaquah and Tiger Mountain we never

35:33 ↗ charge you know the great organizations

35:39 ↗ mountain to sound Greenway or other

35:42 ↗ trail groups and all our have contracts

35:45 ↗ for doing their trail work they use a

35:46 ↗ lot of volunteers to do it but they have

35:48 ↗ their contracts to pay for their their

35:50 ↗ staff so our work is with DNR and others

35:55 ↗ is always just we agree on it and do it

35:58 ↗ and there's no no cost we provide all

36:01 ↗ the tools the fuel for any power tools

36:03 ↗ or our own insurance and all of that so

36:06 ↗ it's you can't just say it's got to be a

36:10 ↗ certain percentage of the budget or

36:12 ↗ something like that

36:12 ↗ you got to figure out how it the

36:14 ↗ organization really works but I think

36:17 ↗ almost everything I heard tonight from

36:19 ↗ Council sounded good

36:21 ↗ and I think all of this needs to be

36:23 ↗ figured out a little bit better for sure

36:26 ↗ but hopefully the city will look at 2019

36:29 ↗ a volunteer coordinator like Sammamish

36:31 ↗ and other cities have to help get more

36:34 ↗ volunteer work thank you

36:36 ↗ Thank You mr. Kepler all right with that

36:40 ↗ we will move on now we're gonna talk

36:43 ↗ about ID oh three oh four Senior Center

36:45 ↗ update with Jeff Watling our parks and

36:47 ↗ recreation director sorry I sort of sped

36:52 ↗ through that Thank You council president

36:58 ↗ Mart's could even council yeah excited

37:01 ↗ to be here tonight providing you an

37:02 ↗ opportunity to hear a little bit of the

37:06 ↗ work a lot of the work that we've been

37:07 ↗ doing as we look at long term operations

37:10 ↗ of the Senior Center this year and then

37:12 ↗ in a lot of ways set the table and

37:15 ↗ better prepare for the more in-depth

37:18 ↗ discussion we'll be having on August

37:20 ↗ 20th in in work session this discussion

37:25 ↗ will certainly help us to be best

37:26 ↗ prepared for that on the 20th and really

37:30 ↗ as we're marching towards and moving

37:32 ↗ towards this policy discussion and

37:34 ↗ ultimately a policy decision on long

37:36 ↗ term operation of that facility

37:39 ↗ so earlier this year at the January 16th

37:42 ↗ meeting we requested the ability to

37:47 ↗ pursue and explore if there's any

37:51 ↗ potential operating partners for the

37:53 ↗ senior center with that request we also

37:57 ↗ requested some additional resources that

37:59 ↗ you granted through that work we

38:03 ↗ interviewed a number of interested

38:07 ↗ candidates and consultants we ended up

38:09 ↗ hiring a consultants Wendy wants a Nabi

38:12 ↗ to partner with us in this work that

38:14 ↗ work really began in earnest in late

38:17 ↗ February she's been a great partner and

38:20 ↗ a great resource with her senior

38:22 ↗ services experience we spent a lot of

38:25 ↗ time both Brian and I and the parks

38:28 ↗ department in Courtney

38:30 ↗ at the senior center but also David

38:33 ↗ Fujimoto and some of our sustainability

38:36 ↗ staff reviewing the Senior Center

38:39 ↗ Advisory Group report taking a look at

38:43 ↗ vision and values of how we want to see

38:45 ↗ operation of the Senior Center long term

38:49 ↗ in a lot of ways Wendy's feedback was

38:52 ↗ very confirming it was very confirming

38:54 ↗ of the work that we were able to do with

38:55 ↗ the Advisory Group last year in terms of

38:58 ↗ setting the vision and values that came

39:01 ↗ out of that very public conversation

39:03 ↗ about long-term operation of the

39:05 ↗ facility if you remember from that

39:07 ↗ report I provided to you last year that

39:11 ↗ there was some real anchor guiding

39:13 ↗ principles that were set those guiding

39:15 ↗ principles really again in a lot of ways

39:18 ↗ were confirmed by the consultant and

39:21 ↗ will continue to be very foundational as

39:24 ↗ we move this conversation forward we

39:29 ↗ also began through the work with with

39:32 ↗ Wendy and Brian and I began a multitude

39:36 ↗ of exploratory conversations with

39:39 ↗ potential operating partners this is

39:42 ↗ both local nonprofit agencies that have

39:45 ↗ had an interest in the Senior Center

39:47 ↗ that have provided some degree of

39:49 ↗ seniors service support we also had

39:52 ↗ conversations with many regional

39:54 ↗ agencies and and perspective partners I

39:57 ↗ think it was really good important work

39:59 ↗ because it really helped us to get an

40:01 ↗ understanding of the lay of the land

40:02 ↗ who's out there who is in a position to

40:06 ↗ look at expansion what are some of the

40:09 ↗ issues that are facing really senior

40:13 ↗ service agencies we also took the time

40:15 ↗ and did a survey amongst our Senior

40:17 ↗ Center patrons and got some terrific

40:19 ↗ feedback there as we as I said earlier

40:25 ↗ those exploratory conversations I think

40:30 ↗ again we're helpful we're positive and

40:32 ↗ that it really helped us to understand

40:34 ↗ the lay of the land what it really told

40:36 ↗ us though the reality is there's not a

40:38 ↗ lot

40:39 ↗ of capacity there's not a ton of

40:42 ↗ interest there were aren't agencies

40:44 ↗ lining up at our city board are ready to

40:47 ↗ come in and and operate the facility

40:50 ↗ with that information it did help us to

40:53 ↗ frame what our more formal outreach was

40:56 ↗ going to be and so we put together a LOI

41:02 ↗ process a letter of interest with the

41:06 ↗ help of Wendy issued that that LOI

41:10 ↗ process really looked a lot like an RFQ

41:14 ↗ but really allows us to find the the

41:20 ↗ agencies that do have an interest in

41:22 ↗ pursuing operation and then allowing us

41:24 ↗ to have further conversation to vet what

41:27 ↗ that partnership may look like had a

41:32 ↗ chance in June on June 12th to update

41:34 ↗ the services and Safety Committee

41:36 ↗ meeting at that time the LOI process

41:39 ↗ hasn't closed we did close that a couple

41:42 ↗ of weeks ago we've had one we had one

41:45 ↗ response from that LOI and that was from

41:48 ↗ Eastside friends of seniors what we've

41:51 ↗ doing now is we've reviewed that is

41:53 ↗ we've scheduled a series of meetings

41:55 ↗ with them our first meeting is this

41:57 ↗ Friday the intent of those meetings over

42:02 ↗ these next few weeks is to learn more

42:03 ↗ about the operating model that they're

42:06 ↗ looking at learn more about their

42:07 ↗ capacity as an agency as well as budget

42:11 ↗ that what they're seeing and needing as

42:14 ↗ an operating budget this will give us a

42:16 ↗ much clearer picture to provide to you

42:18 ↗ on August 20th and understand what that

42:21 ↗ opportunity looks like congruently at

42:24 ↗ the at the same time we are also looking

42:28 ↗ and have been looking at what a

42:31 ↗ long-term city operating model would

42:34 ↗ look like we've been building only an

42:36 ↗ operational plan but what a budget would

42:39 ↗ look like around that around that model

42:41 ↗ we feel like on the 20th and what we

42:43 ↗ want to be prepared to do on the 20th is

42:45 ↗ provide a good comparison given that we

42:48 ↗ have the one LOI response just to allow

42:52 ↗ us to measure

42:53 ↗ what possible third-party operation

42:56 ↗ would look like versus what city

42:59 ↗ operation would look like all along as

43:05 ↗ we've been going through this process

43:07 ↗ our goal has been transparency really in

43:10 ↗ this 18 months of interim operation that

43:13 ↗ we've been under so far with the senior

43:15 ↗ center so we have been sharing news with

43:18 ↗ the senior center patrons as we've been

43:20 ↗ going along both as staff Cortney and

43:23 ↗ Brian doing a great job of that I've had

43:25 ↗ a chance to go over and join the seniors

43:27 ↗ for lunch and give updates from time to

43:29 ↗ time and Mary Mayor Polly has done so as

43:32 ↗ well our plan like I said on the 20th

43:36 ↗ would be to take a look at these two

43:39 ↗ long-term operating scenarios in a

43:41 ↗ little more detail be able to provide

43:44 ↗ and do some comparison work on what

43:46 ↗ programs and service models would look

43:48 ↗ like what staffing plans would look like

43:51 ↗ what budgets would look like more

43:53 ↗ specifically what city funding and in a

43:57 ↗ lot of ways what that net operating

43:59 ↗ level may look like would love in our

44:04 ↗ discussion when I'm done with a staff

44:06 ↗ report to get an idea if there's any

44:08 ↗ other information that you would feel

44:10 ↗ deem helpful as we start to dive a

44:14 ↗ little deeper into some specific

44:16 ↗ operating models on the 20th we also

44:20 ↗ anticipate as we're moving into this

44:23 ↗ decision process some public engagement

44:26 ↗ during this phase we would love the

44:29 ↗ opportunity to seek some feedback if if

44:32 ↗ there's residents who have preference on

44:35 ↗ on either of those operating models

44:37 ↗ again as we discuss this we could do it

44:40 ↗ either way I'd really want to know your

44:42 ↗ interest would you like to have that

44:44 ↗ information prior to the 20th or

44:46 ↗ following the 20th the plan schedule

44:49 ↗ wise would be following that

44:53 ↗ conversation on the 20th moving towards

44:56 ↗ some type of policy direction in

44:58 ↗ September that would allow us as we're

45:02 ↗ working with the mayor's office on

45:04 ↗ the budget that will be presented to you

45:06 ↗ in October we'd be able to take that at

45:09 ↗ least that direction and build the 2019

45:12 ↗ budget accordingly and then move right

45:15 ↗ into budget deliberations this fall

45:20 ↗ questions know there are some

45:23 ↗ councilmember Rey these are sort of

45:24 ↗ questions and sort of comments so it's

45:27 ↗ mayor Pauly's not here to tell me I

45:28 ↗ can't make comments I just wanted to say

45:31 ↗ I think the parks department and the

45:33 ↗ team at the Senior Center recovered from

45:36 ↗ a very difficult situation and from what

45:39 ↗ I understand the feedback from the

45:40 ↗ patrons of the the Senior Center is very

45:42 ↗ very high right now so you know kudos

45:45 ↗ horibe who jumped into that breach to

45:47 ↗ get that ship on an even keel so a

45:52 ↗ couple things that I think are really

45:53 ↗ important that we consider when looking

45:54 ↗ at the different options one is what are

45:56 ↗ the cost comparisons what's the absolute

45:59 ↗ dollars out-of-pocket if we run it as a

46:00 ↗ city service versus not-for-profit the

46:04 ↗ other one is one of the other funding

46:06 ↗ options that are available in terms of

46:08 ↗ grants for the city versus grants for

46:09 ↗ not-for-profits and then finally and you

46:12 ↗ touched on this Jeff a little bit ISM

46:13 ↗ how do we solicit patron the people who

46:15 ↗ actually use this Senior Center

46:17 ↗ how do we solicit their input and and

46:19 ↗ how do we ask them what they considered

46:22 ↗ their desired outcomes what do they want

46:24 ↗ this to look like and so instead of

46:26 ↗ getting you know a third party or the

46:30 ↗ city let's talk about the outcomes we're

46:31 ↗ trying to achieve and then you know what

46:33 ↗ are the factors you know the things that

46:35 ↗ would be critical to success in

46:38 ↗ achieving those outcomes and and I more

46:41 ↗ than anything else want to hear from

46:43 ↗ those folks about what success would

46:45 ↗ look like to them there wasn't a

46:48 ↗ question in there at all

46:55 ↗ other questions or feedback comes from

46:57 ↗ over Ramos yeah I agree with everything

47:01 ↗ he said and didn't really doing a great

47:03 ↗ job I love the Senior Center now and I

47:05 ↗ stopped by occasionally because I

47:06 ↗ actually qualify but will whisper that

47:08 ↗ now but the other thing I guess I'd like

47:11 ↗ to keep in mind those things like we're

47:13 ↗ nonprofits could fit more advantageous

47:15 ↗ in the city there's there's

47:17 ↗ consideration I also like to consider

47:19 ↗ what what the city is doing now of

47:21 ↗ considering public rental that facility

47:25 ↗ when it's not being used as a Senior

47:27 ↗ Center particularly weekends and so

47:28 ↗ forth because that is a wonderful

47:31 ↗ facility Issaquah is in dire need of

47:33 ↗ meeting spaces and where folks can get

47:36 ↗ together so when you're playing with

47:37 ↗ those models really try to consider that

47:40 ↗ keeping that option as open as possible

47:42 ↗ because I think it's a great service for

47:43 ↗ the community when the Senior Center is

47:46 ↗ not using it because it's a great place

47:47 ↗ and I think it our city is in dire need

47:50 ↗ of the places like that to be able to

47:52 ↗ use and to rent out for various folks so

47:54 ↗ keep that in mind as well don't remember

47:58 ↗ hunt thank you

48:00 ↗ I think thank you for the list of

48:02 ↗ information that that will be provided

48:05 ↗ at August 20th I think it's pretty

48:08 ↗ comprehensive list one thing that I

48:09 ↗ would be in addition I would

48:12 ↗ additionally like to see would be if

48:15 ↗ it's if there's a staffing model also so

48:18 ↗ how much how is that going to impact

48:22 ↗ operations so sort of a bigger picture

48:25 ↗ on how does this impact parks operations

48:27 ↗ at parks operations is staffing and what

48:30 ↗ does that look like in parks operations

48:31 ↗ if another entity is managing the Senior

48:37 ↗ Center so I think that would be that

48:39 ↗ would be the one sort of big question

48:42 ↗ that I have that isn't on the list

48:43 ↗ when you say Park operations more Park

48:47 ↗ Department impacted Department right in

48:51 ↗ terms of does this allow sort of

48:53 ↗ organization of different organizations

48:56 ↗ different people to take different roles

48:57 ↗ or any sort of adjustments like that I

48:59 ↗ must say I imagine that it is it well

49:04 ↗ it's a managing this would mean whether

49:09 ↗ you do that or it doesn't it affects how

49:12 ↗ the rest of the department operates I

49:14 ↗ would think it's a whole new service

49:15 ↗ unit that we'd be entering into yep

49:19 ↗ deputy council president batise so Jeff

49:23 ↗ thanks for for the presentation overview

49:27 ↗ I just this has been a long road and I

49:33 ↗ just wanted to thank the staff and

49:36 ↗ everyone who has who has been working

49:39 ↗ toward this toward this point because

49:42 ↗ it's been a lot of hard work and we just

49:44 ↗ get so many great comments back about

49:47 ↗ how everyone is feeling about the Senior

49:49 ↗ Center now so that that's fantastic and

49:52 ↗ I I think when we go forward to the 20th

49:55 ↗ just over views of the public

49:59 ↗ communication and outreach is important

50:02 ↗ and then you just sort of best practices

50:05 ↗ lessons learned how things would be

50:07 ↗ structured going forward so we would not

50:11 ↗ you know face any of the problems we've

50:13 ↗ had in the past so an overview of that I

50:16 ↗ think would be important Thanks

50:21 ↗ there are questions or comments so I'll

50:25 ↗ add that you know when I when we look at

50:29 ↗ things in August I really want the one

50:33 ↗ of the areas for me will be the

50:35 ↗ counterpoint to the cost of the various

50:40 ↗ options is going to be what if any

50:42 ↗ difference we see in potential service

50:44 ↗ delivery and that was something that

50:47 ↗ when we were looking at the operation of

50:50 ↗ the Senior Center previously was a

50:53 ↗ really important part of you know the

50:56 ↗ ultimate decisions that we made to bring

50:58 ↗ this in under temporary city oversight

51:01 ↗ and so it'll be part be a big part of

51:03 ↗ whatever the next stage is for us and

51:06 ↗ what things you know under under the OP

51:09 ↗ dozen of the various options what things

51:11 ↗ we think we would be able to do

51:12 ↗ internally what things we think we would

51:13 ↗ be able to partner with and so how that

51:15 ↗ would impact the users of the Senior

51:18 ↗ Center that's a real area of interest of

51:20 ↗ mine

51:20 ↗ so not just cost but sort of benefit

51:23 ↗ what kind of what kind of programs that

51:25 ↗ we expect offer

51:26 ↗ councilmember Rea no I I was listening

51:29 ↗ to my esteemed colleague at the end of

51:31 ↗ the dais have we looked at a hybrid

51:33 ↗ model so including both city staff and

51:37 ↗ not-for-profit working any in a

51:40 ↗ collaborative way to so you know a

51:42 ↗ little bit of a best explored operating

51:45 ↗ models yes even to the point of last

51:48 ↗ year

51:49 ↗ I think this LOI process and again I

51:51 ↗ don't meet you know these conversations

51:53 ↗ will be having with this prospective

51:55 ↗ partner it'll it'll be great to explore

52:02 ↗ what their interests are what their

52:04 ↗ capacity is right now we're looking at

52:08 ↗ one or the other but there's nothing

52:12 ↗ that to preclude if what comes out of

52:14 ↗ this is some type of partnered operation

52:19 ↗ and as you were as you were responding I

52:21 ↗ was being inspired you know there's

52:23 ↗ going to be some transition period if we

52:25 ↗ say do transition to a not-for-profit so

52:28 ↗ how would we operate in that transition

52:30 ↗ period and and kind of working through

52:33 ↗ that as we we look at the different

52:34 ↗ options about you know do we we can do a

52:37 ↗ full transition how long do we take to

52:39 ↗ transition work through those kinds of

52:41 ↗ questions I think would be really

52:42 ↗ interesting to explore in the 20th be a

52:44 ↗ careful part of either model is yeah

52:46 ↗ transition other questions

52:51 ↗ promise me more interest I'm thank you

52:53 ↗ Jeff this is only related to the

52:56 ↗ facility like Bill talked about weakens

53:00 ↗ and maybe evenings perhaps a year ago

53:04 ↗ some former staff of yours and some

53:07 ↗ former people from I think it was

53:10 ↗ Catholic Community Services who were at

53:13 ↗ conversations about the meals program

53:16 ↗ potentially using that facility I think

53:18 ↗ this is something Katie had had

53:20 ↗ conversations with them about and I know

53:22 ↗ it just it went that conversation just

53:24 ↗ never went anywhere and I don't know if

53:26 ↗ it was ever brought to your attention

53:28 ↗ but I if that is something that could be

53:34 ↗ maybe brought to a logical conclusion I

53:36 ↗ think it was never really concluded I

53:38 ↗ think it just fell off the plate I do

53:40 ↗ know that program over there many people

53:44 ↗ who've put it on did after understanding

53:46 ↗ and seeing what was that this other

53:48 ↗ building felt that that was a far

53:50 ↗ superior location so as put that in your

53:53 ↗ calculus please and if it's not to be

53:55 ↗ it's not to be but now since the time

53:58 ↗ you're looking at overall operations of

53:59 ↗ that building as well that would be one

54:02 ↗ that I would ask you to look at

54:04 ↗ absolutely I was aware of that

54:06 ↗ exploratory work we did respond and let

54:08 ↗ CCS know we felt in the in the interim

54:11 ↗ that we are right now in would be hard

54:13 ↗ to commit to anything long term as we

54:16 ↗ look at what the long-term operating

54:18 ↗ model looking at that programmatic piece

54:20 ↗ and what it would mean to be there what

54:24 ↗ it would mean I think it'll be

54:25 ↗ interesting to compare and just for for

54:32 ↗ preparation for the 20th even as we look

54:34 ↗ at city operating model that revenue

54:37 ↗ piece is an important one and council

54:39 ↗ member Ramos touched on those evenings

54:42 ↗ do we make evenings available for for

54:45 ↗ rental and capturing some rental to help

54:47 ↗ offset that net operating cost or do we

54:50 ↗ look at doing something programmatically

54:52 ↗ that might not be a revenue piece

54:55 ↗ there's a there's a cost benefit to that

54:58 ↗ that we'd want to certainly consider but

55:01 ↗ it is in the it's in the mix as thank

55:04 ↗ you something to discuss anything else

55:10 ↗ all right

55:12 ↗ well thank you very much we anything

55:15 ↗ else for you Jeff nope all right any

55:17 ↗ regional activities or issues that

55:19 ↗ anybody wants to bring up nope

55:22 ↗ I I'll bring up one roof well I'm sorry

55:25 ↗ we will take kind of you have some

55:31 ↗ thoughts on this mr. Caplin yeah yeah I

55:34 ↗ don't want to have to sue the city or a

55:36 ↗ new group like I had to do the last one

55:38 ↗ but when they were trying to give away

55:40 ↗ all the assets and we at least save one

55:43 ↗ bus and some other assets but anyway you

55:48 ↗ know people who at the senior center

55:51 ↗ when things were going really bad and

55:53 ↗ when the first city started taking it

55:55 ↗ over they went out to a lot of different

55:58 ↗ places to look and check them out and

56:00 ↗ some had already were pretty familiar

56:02 ↗ with other senior centers and

56:04 ↗ that they brought talked about I think

56:07 ↗ the most maybe it was was maybe a tie

56:09 ↗ with Redman was was can't which this

56:12 ↗ this young man here knows something

56:14 ↗ about and that was often talked about

56:17 ↗ and still talked about how great the

56:19 ↗ they can't Senior Center is so but I'm

56:22 ↗ sure it's not cheap and I'm sure if the

56:24 ↗ city running this is not going to be

56:25 ↗ cheap if it if it's some kind of hybrid

56:29 ↗ I'm even if it's almost a hundred

56:32 ↗ percent a different group running it

56:34 ↗ they're still going to be oversight I'm

56:36 ↗ convinced and not be like we had before

56:39 ↗ where there I felt the city had those

56:45 ↗ oversight but they chose not to exercise

56:48 ↗ it till way at the way at the end but I

56:52 ↗ think you know whichever way it goes the

56:55 ↗ people right now we're really happy when

56:57 ↗ you go over there and talk to him it's

56:59 ↗ gonna be hard for any group attempt to

57:02 ↗ to to be better than what the city's

57:04 ↗ been doing I would say but at the same

57:06 ↗ time it could be pretty the city city

57:10 ↗ pays well right its cities people are

57:13 ↗ not are expensive and there are high

57:16 ↗ quality people but in what how you

57:19 ↗ balance the needs of our senior citizens

57:22 ↗ with the cost is some is that's your job

57:26 ↗ so I I think we'll end up with something

57:29 ↗ really great or continue something

57:30 ↗ really great thank you very much mr.

57:34 ↗ captain thank you mister cap would that

57:41 ↗ made me think of one thing that I think

57:43 ↗ would help me with this conversation

57:44 ↗ which would just be case studies or a

57:47 ↗ couple examples of operating models from

57:49 ↗ other cities that would be that would be

57:52 ↗ helpful because I and I could see how

57:54 ↗ other success stories have worked out

57:57 ↗ thanks all right thank you anything else

58:01 ↗ I know I want to mention one thing

58:05 ↗ totally you do not have a Landon Shore

58:07 ↗ Committee meeting next month and hope

58:09 ↗ you saw that announcement

58:10 ↗ I did see so you won't miss that no all

58:14 ↗ right thank you I appreciate that

58:17 ↗ heads up I'll mention for the good of

58:19 ↗ order one one thing which is a little

58:22 ↗ bit serious there was news this weekend

58:25 ↗ that Burien mayor Jimmy Mata got

58:26 ↗ attacked at the old Berrian block party

58:29 ↗ and a lot of the details are still up in

58:31 ↗ the air but it looks pretty troubling

58:33 ↗ and all of us who are involved in

58:35 ↗ municipal government certainly have our

58:38 ↗ thoughts out for mayor Mata they did

58:40 ↗ actually arrest a suspect this evening

58:42 ↗ in that attack so I just thought I would

58:45 ↗ mention that and just mention our

58:47 ↗ thoughts are with mayor Mata and with

58:50 ↗ that we are adjourned

58:51 ↗ thank you very much

59:03 ↗ you

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Mariah Bettise

Victoria Hunt

Tola Marts (Mayor Pro Tem)

Bill Ramos

Chris Reh

Paul Winterstein

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