City Council Special Meeting · Tuesday, July 24, 2018 · City Council Digest

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0:13 ↗ good evening and welcome to the Tuesday

0:15 ↗ July 24th Issaquah City Council

0:18 ↗ committee of the whole council meeting

0:19 ↗ as I said council several times in that

0:22 ↗ sentence we're gonna start with I do to

0:25 ↗ 6 4 which is the 2019 community fund

0:27 ↗ capacity grant recommendations from our

0:30 ↗ own Amy Dukes grants coordinator good

0:35 ↗ evening council members I am here

0:38 ↗ tonight to give you just an overview of

0:40 ↗ the 2019 of Community Fund grant

0:44 ↗ recommendations and this program

0:47 ↗ continues to evolve both in the process

0:49 ↗ by which we are reviewing the

0:50 ↗ applications and also by how we're

0:52 ↗ reporting on it to you so in previous

0:55 ↗ years we have gone with a separate

0:57 ↗ agenda bill and also the budgeting

1:00 ↗ process and this year we decided it was

1:02 ↗ more appropriate to bring it to you at

1:04 ↗ Council the whole and then you will see

1:06 ↗ the recommendations during the normal

1:08 ↗ budgeting process and these will be

1:10 ↗ within the mayor's budget and then all

1:13 ↗ of the nonprofit funding area so just to

1:18 ↗ highlight a couple of things that are

1:19 ↗ different this year based on some input

1:22 ↗ from Council last year we did create a

1:25 ↗ community advisory panel and we had that

1:29 ↗ advisory panel review all the

1:31 ↗ applications and make recommendations

1:33 ↗ much like we do for the arts grants or

1:36 ↗ the Human Services grants and then those

1:39 ↗ more afforded to the mayor for her

1:41 ↗ endorsement which she did actually

1:45 ↗ endorsed them all as they were

1:46 ↗ recommended so she made no changes to

1:48 ↗ their recommendations so then you will

1:50 ↗ see these again during budgeting time in

1:53 ↗ her budget

1:54 ↗ I can reiterate the criteria to you so

2:00 ↗ the the review panel used these

2:02 ↗ criterias their main basis for

2:05 ↗ evaluating the applications

2:06 ↗ they were looking for applications that

2:08 ↗ showed organizational learning

2:10 ↗ development and mission completion that

2:13 ↗ provided a compelling reason to engage

2:15 ↗ in capacity building work that were had

2:19 ↗ relevant technical managerial staff

2:22 ↗ ability and capacity demonstrated that

2:24 ↗ had a

2:25 ↗ regi for achieving and measuring the

2:27 ↗ impact that they provide and that their

2:30 ↗ proposed use of funds was detailed and

2:32 ↗ justified and that they provided

2:34 ↗ supporting cost estimates and and I want

2:39 ↗ to also remind you that in January the

2:42 ↗ groups that receive funding will come to

2:45 ↗ you and provide a presentation to let

2:47 ↗ you know exactly how they met the

2:49 ↗ objectives that they set out to meet so

2:53 ↗ if you have questions about the

2:56 ↗ individual applications I'm happy to

2:58 ↗ entertain any questions you have about

3:00 ↗ the overall funding recommendations come

3:05 ↗ to understand thanks Amy

3:07 ↗ or of a question about timing so the

3:10 ↗ they're gonna be in the 2019 budget

3:13 ↗ proposal and they are in they are what

3:18 ↗ they will be in the 2019 budget proposal

3:22 ↗ but they're gonna report to us in

3:23 ↗ January oh I'm sorry

3:25 ↗ so the the ones that were given this

3:28 ↗ year will report to you in January on

3:30 ↗ their outcomes the ones that are given

3:32 ↗ for 2019 will report to you in January

3:34 ↗ 2020 so that's new I'm sorry this year

3:37 ↗ was the first year that we had them

3:38 ↗ actually come to you and a report about

3:40 ↗ how how what impact they made versus

3:44 ↗ presenting to you on the front end but

3:46 ↗ they're never coming back to you to tell

3:47 ↗ you how it went

3:48 ↗ so we have changed that okay thank you

3:53 ↗ that's my Ramos I'd like to compliment

3:57 ↗ the changes I think this is nice to get

4:00 ↗ a little more handle on a little more

4:01 ↗ transparency the the group review and

4:04 ↗ you got good folks on there as far as

4:06 ↗ the folks reviewing these and making

4:08 ↗ recommendations I like that process and

4:11 ↗ just have a few questions on how some of

4:13 ↗ them were I'm about and so forth so you

4:16 ↗ took two of them and decided to put them

4:19 ↗ under contract versus fund under this

4:23 ↗ system so well that funding then come

4:27 ↗ through like parks department and

4:29 ↗ and go to them under that budget that's

4:31 ↗ a great question actually they the

4:33 ↗ funding will still come through through

4:36 ↗ the mayor's the executive department

4:37 ↗ budget it will still be in the category

4:40 ↗ with nonprofits it's just a slightly

4:43 ↗ different way in which we contract with

4:46 ↗ the organization's so for 2018 we just

4:51 ↗ have a handful of groups like friends of

4:53 ↗ squaws Salmon Hatchery Mountains - Sound

4:56 ↗ Chamber of Commerce and the history

4:59 ↗ museums that we that we use contract for

5:03 ↗ service process with and those are

5:05 ↗ because they're more general operating

5:07 ↗ and support and they are we each year we

5:11 ↗ evaluate what services we need from

5:13 ↗ those organizations but they're more

5:14 ↗ ongoing the capacity fund the community

5:18 ↗ grants are really meant to be a one or

5:21 ↗ maybe two time infusion of cash to

5:24 ↗ really help them get to a new you know a

5:28 ↗ mission objective or to get over a hump

5:31 ↗ that you know they might have with

5:33 ↗ staffing or professional development

5:34 ↗ things like that so it's not really

5:37 ↗ intended to be more about ongoing

5:39 ↗ service that they're providing to the

5:41 ↗ community and I understand that and so

5:44 ↗ with that I'd ask the friends would like

5:47 ↗ some managed this is a fourth year

5:48 ↗ running it it's basically the same

5:50 ↗ project right and when we talked about

5:53 ↗ it first it was the first time we proved

5:55 ↗ that it was a one-time deal to get a

5:58 ↗ half funding of a person to become their

6:00 ↗ fundraisers so they could raise that in

6:02 ↗ the second year was kind of okay we'll

6:03 ↗ give them another year to basically

6:05 ↗ raise their own funds to be

6:07 ↗ self-supporting so and I love what they

6:10 ↗ do wrong but we're in the fourth year of

6:12 ↗ it seems like the same thing of getting

6:15 ↗ them started where they can raise their

6:17 ↗ own funding or expected that to be like

6:18 ↗ you mentioned a year or two right and

6:21 ↗ now in the fourth year so I'm just

6:22 ↗ questioning what it looks like and then

6:24 ↗ you put it into a contract for service

6:25 ↗ and it looks like that's just accepted

6:27 ↗ as an ongoing thing for quite a long

6:30 ↗ time

6:31 ↗ right so they the contracts for service

6:33 ↗ do get evaluated every year but the

6:36 ↗ panel recommended that if they were

6:38 ↗ going to continue to ask for general

6:40 ↗ operating support that it really

6:42 ↗ didn't make sense to be in this

6:44 ↗ competitive category because their

6:45 ↗ application is quite different they

6:47 ↗ weren't talking about a project they

6:49 ↗ were really talking about the entire

6:50 ↗ organization and the panel felt like

6:55 ↗ they provide a real service to the

6:57 ↗ community being an advocate for the

6:59 ↗ State Park so that was their

7:02 ↗ recommendation which the mayor endorsed

7:05 ↗ but you know it I know that it has come

7:07 ↗ up year to year so then I understand and

7:12 ↗ they do do great stuff I'm just trying

7:14 ↗ to figure out how this is ongoing into

7:16 ↗ the future as we're looking at that long

7:18 ↗ term because that's like you say it's

7:20 ↗ not it's not the goal of this funding

7:23 ↗ source right and you're putting it under

7:24 ↗ contract which makes sense but then it

7:28 ↗ looks like it's taking out of this and

7:29 ↗ now becoming just an ongoing cost so I'm

7:31 ↗ trying to figure out how that you know

7:33 ↗ so next year will they reapply again for

7:35 ↗ this funding I mean if we choose to and

7:38 ↗ still come under this funding stream but

7:40 ↗ again just instead of using a grant use

7:42 ↗ the contract right so the more

7:44 ↗ appropriate ask if they just as an

7:46 ↗ example if they were going to come back

7:48 ↗ to this fund next year would really be

7:50 ↗ to ask for the type of staffing support

7:53 ↗ that would enable them to fundraise so

7:56 ↗ that they can support staff it wouldn't

7:58 ↗ be to just keep funding the existing

8:01 ↗ staff that they have and so I guess this

8:03 ↗ kind of an annual you know decision

8:06 ↗ that's made and recommendation that's

8:08 ↗ made and this is the recommendation

8:09 ↗ that's being made for 2019 but you all

8:12 ↗ can certainly discuss that you say I'm

8:19 ↗ deputy council president patís thank you

8:24 ↗ thank you Amy for the I think that more

8:30 ↗ information about these the grants in

8:35 ↗ general and the community fund grants is

8:38 ↗ really important I know that over the

8:40 ↗ years we've we've had a lot of questions

8:42 ↗ that have come up between the Human

8:44 ↗ Services grants and now the grants that

8:48 ↗ fall under

8:49 ↗ this that used to be the mayor's grants

8:52 ↗ and being able to better and further

8:56 ↗ define the overview and the panel and

8:59 ↗ just having the information in front of

9:02 ↗ us early I think is is a great step

9:06 ↗ forward and I I to really I have I have

9:12 ↗ some similar questions to councilmember

9:15 ↗ Ramos in with the the two groups that

9:18 ↗ are that have come forward and are being

9:21 ↗ pulled out and moving over to contract I

9:24 ↗ mean I guess one of the and both both

9:29 ↗ groups do amazing work and so being able

9:32 ↗ to to put them in you know with the

9:37 ↗ contract that that would allow ongoing

9:39 ↗ is something that would be considered

9:41 ↗ but I think that one of the high-level

9:44 ↗ questions that gets lost a little bit is

9:47 ↗ maybe for groups as what is the

9:50 ↗ difference between the what I would do

9:54 ↗ to go forward with the grant but the

9:56 ↗ Human Services Commission and then the

9:58 ↗ community grants and then this seems

10:00 ↗ like it's opening a third pathway or

10:03 ↗ something new that there are a couple

10:06 ↗ groups that have applied over and over

10:08 ↗ and now there we need to contract

10:10 ↗ because could you just speak a little

10:11 ↗ bit well in the instance of both of

10:14 ↗ those organizations they are not ones

10:17 ↗ that really are very eligible for Human

10:20 ↗ Services or Arts Commission support

10:23 ↗ unless they're and in the case of

10:25 ↗ Friends of Lake Sammamish they actually

10:27 ↗ get some arts grants to do some arts

10:29 ↗ programming but there really isn't

10:31 ↗ another funding category available to

10:34 ↗ nonprofits that don't sort of fall into

10:36 ↗ the arts and culture or the Human

10:39 ↗ Services category and so that would be

10:43 ↗ one reasons like we do support Mountains

10:45 ↗ to sound through a contract for service

10:48 ↗ and so there's there are just kind of a

10:51 ↗ handful of these nonprofit organizations

10:53 ↗ that you know are felt like important to

10:57 ↗ the community providing services that

10:58 ↗ the city

11:00 ↗ once provided but does not provide

11:02 ↗ itself so but it's an interesting

11:06 ↗ collection of nonprofit support and

11:10 ↗ these were all funded through mayor's

11:13 ↗ discretionary grants previously so there

11:16 ↗ was in the past I'd say five years there

11:19 ↗ was some sort of parsing out which ones

11:21 ↗ are more like a contract for service and

11:23 ↗ which ones should really be put into a

11:26 ↗ competitive grant program so it's kind

11:30 ↗ of still evolving I would say and it

11:33 ↗ does change year to year for sure so it

11:36 ↗ sounds like as as the community grants

11:39 ↗ have become more defined than that has

11:42 ↗ also sort of pointed to these great

11:44 ↗ groups in the city that are falling

11:47 ↗ outside of yeah these two areas still

11:51 ↗ need to be and want to be able to apply

11:54 ↗ for help do the great work they do but

11:57 ↗ they're but they're outside really the

11:59 ↗ scope that's correct

12:01 ↗ you articulated that much better than I

12:03 ↗ did I'll ask so we have we look at our

12:10 ↗ dollars per capita into Human Services

12:13 ↗ right and we had previously a goal of

12:17 ↗ $10 per capita right so how is we create

12:21 ↗ this sort of third category how does

12:24 ↗ that factor into when do we win if if at

12:31 ↗ all do we take a holistic overview of

12:33 ↗ all of our human services spending and

12:35 ↗ understand what it looks like in total

12:39 ↗ and that's a good question I there is a

12:43 ↗ exhibit with the memo that provided sort

12:46 ↗ of table of which ones also received

12:49 ↗ funding from either arts or Human

12:51 ↗ Services so you can see that some of

12:53 ↗ them are receiving funding from multiple

12:56 ↗ categories the review panel did take

12:59 ↗ that information into consideration as

13:01 ↗ well when they were looking at the

13:04 ↗ requests they also wanted to know what

13:07 ↗ the groups were receiving other funding

13:10 ↗ from the city for

13:12 ↗ and so we definitely haven't kind of

13:14 ↗ added that to the per capita spending or

13:17 ↗ anything like that to blend the programs

13:19 ↗ but there was definitely an awareness of

13:21 ↗ their funding that they were receiving

13:23 ↗ and in some cases that did influence the

13:26 ↗ recommendation that the groups received

13:29 ↗ from this review panel so nominally what

13:33 ↗ does xx this time in at this point of

13:37 ↗ the year in 2019 what's it going to look

13:39 ↗ like for councils review of these two

13:43 ↗ new the two organizations are going to

13:47 ↗ go into this new path and if they were

13:49 ↗ to follow the same path as the other

13:52 ↗ organizations that have contracts for

13:53 ↗ service you would see them listed in the

13:55 ↗ proposed budget each year and that they

13:58 ↗ wouldn't necessarily come to you for you

14:02 ↗ know a formal presentation we can

14:05 ↗ certainly add all the nonprofit's that

14:08 ↗ receive any type of funding to that

14:10 ↗ presentation but currently so for

14:14 ↗ example in 2018 you all saw the groups

14:16 ↗ that received Community Fund funding you

14:19 ↗ didn't see the contracts for service

14:21 ↗ groups come to present to you but we

14:23 ↗ could certainly I would assume add that

14:27 ↗ so contracts for services are our

14:32 ↗ organizations that the city hires to do

14:35 ↗ specific things right correct

14:37 ↗ how is Friends of Lake Sammamish like

14:39 ↗ that well they're providing a connection

14:43 ↗ and their liaison with the city and with

14:46 ↗ the state park system and communicating

14:50 ↗ between us and it I know from arts

14:54 ↗ projects that I've worked on is very

14:56 ↗ challenging to reach the correct person

14:59 ↗ at the state park system so I know that

15:01 ↗ they have provided that sort of

15:03 ↗ communication channel and that advocacy

15:06 ↗ channel for the city but we have our own

15:08 ↗ communication is directly to state parks

15:10 ↗ right so it's not like they're acting as

15:12 ↗ our as our lobbyists with the state

15:14 ↗ parks right no but they are definitely

15:18 ↗ there for example the new playground

15:21 ↗ that was

15:23 ↗ built at the park really happened

15:26 ↗ because they were able to do private

15:28 ↗ fundraising and bring a large sum of

15:31 ↗ those funds to the table to make that

15:33 ↗ happen which if they did not do that I

15:35 ↗ imagine that playground would not have

15:38 ↗ been constructed councilmember Rea no

15:45 ↗ just a couple fun questions for you

15:48 ↗ interesting so I noticed and nobody got

15:51 ↗ everything that they wanted and in the

15:53 ↗ in terms of the amount requested versus

15:55 ↗ the amount granted but I did notice that

15:58 ↗ there was some disparity between a sum

16:00 ↗ that we got like 90 plus percent and

16:02 ↗ some that were in there 30 percent range

16:04 ↗ I'm just curious what the what the

16:06 ↗ criteria was used to say how much we

16:08 ↗ fund it of of each request so it was a

16:12 ↗ panel of humans so definitely more art

16:15 ↗ than science but the way that we did the

16:20 ↗ review this year was to have all of the

16:22 ↗ reviewer reviewers use the criteria to

16:26 ↗ come up with a funding amount that they

16:29 ↗ felt matched how well the application

16:33 ↗ addressed the criteria but they did take

16:36 ↗ other things into consideration so they

16:38 ↗ did take in that other support from

16:40 ↗ other city funding programs they also

16:45 ↗ scrutinized the budgets pretty

16:47 ↗ significantly and so some of them

16:49 ↗ actually had some things in their

16:50 ↗ budgets that really weren't fundable by

16:53 ↗ the city for example the Eastside

16:57 ↗ Friends of seniors only got half of

16:59 ↗ their request because half of their

17:00 ↗ request was for hotels and meals while

17:03 ↗ they're at this conferences so the

17:05 ↗ committee wanted to fund their

17:08 ↗ professional development but could

17:09 ↗ really only fund their attendance at the

17:11 ↗ conference registration part of that so

17:16 ↗ there's sort of a little story I guess

17:18 ↗ behind all of them and I'm happy to

17:22 ↗ provide it if that is helpful but if

17:24 ↗ they really looked at the budgets to

17:26 ↗ make sure that we could fund what they

17:27 ↗ were asking for and I don't know that we

17:30 ↗ need to go into a tight

17:31 ↗ I just think in the in being transparent

17:35 ↗ and fair so that you know someone says

17:38 ↗ wow I got 30% of what I asked for and

17:40 ↗ they got 90% of what they asked for

17:42 ↗ how come because it it'll just make it

17:47 ↗ easier for people to understand and then

17:49 ↗ one one final question for you and these

17:51 ↗ are capacity-building grants correct so

17:53 ↗ I think I'm picking up on where council

17:57 ↗ member Ramos was going which is if we

17:59 ↗ have things that are really contracts

18:00 ↗ for services are those really

18:02 ↗ capacity-building or are those ongoing

18:03 ↗ services and so should we find a

18:06 ↗ different funding mechanism than then

18:08 ↗ truly capacity building because in my

18:11 ↗ belief around capacity building we

18:13 ↗ should see it once or twice and then

18:15 ↗ they should they should build that

18:17 ↗ capacity and come back with something

18:19 ↗ new and fun and exciting for us to do

18:20 ↗ correct and that was why the panel

18:22 ↗ recommended that that was moved to the

18:24 ↗ contract for service and I mean they

18:27 ↗ certainly endorse both both of those

18:28 ↗ organizations as providing excellent

18:30 ↗ services that the the city desires and

18:32 ↗ but it was as much that as it was these

18:37 ↗ don't belong in this category and

18:39 ↗ therefore it need to be in that other

18:42 ↗ category so I actually kinda member we

18:48 ↗ just I'm so I have a question about sort

18:57 ↗ of the long-term trends in the asks

19:00 ↗ versus the amount that's being given

19:02 ↗ overall and thank you for answering the

19:06 ↗ questions I had emails but I think I

19:09 ↗ recall that when we were talking about

19:11 ↗ the human services grant there's this

19:12 ↗ increase as the population grows which

19:15 ↗ would be expected but there's an

19:16 ↗ increase in that asks over time and

19:18 ↗ there's increase also in the

19:19 ↗ organizations that are coming forward

19:20 ↗ and applying for grants and then that

19:23 ↗ doesn't seem to be the case with these

19:25 ↗ and so I wondered if you could talk

19:26 ↗ about that because the trend is actually

19:29 ↗ that this total amount asked is less

19:31 ↗ this year than these years it is less

19:34 ↗ this year I'm I think it's because the

19:36 ↗ nature of the funding it really is

19:38 ↗ intended to be capacity building so

19:41 ↗ there probably are a lot of organ

19:43 ↗ Asians that would love some funding but

19:45 ↗ they don't exactly have a project that

19:46 ↗ fits this at this moment in time we have

19:50 ↗ had we've turned away groups this is the

19:53 ↗ first year that everyone that requested

19:55 ↗ funding is being recommended for funding

19:57 ↗ we have had years where we've let groups

19:59 ↗ know that your request just simply

20:02 ↗ doesn't meet the capacity-building

20:04 ↗ funding pool so I think this may be this

20:08 ↗ is the fourth year that we've changed

20:12 ↗ the guidelines to be capacity building

20:14 ↗ specific and I think that some of that

20:16 ↗ decrease in request is just our

20:19 ↗ nonprofits starting to better understand

20:22 ↗ what this funding program is meant for

20:25 ↗ and so only applying if they have an

20:28 ↗ appropriate program okay and how do you

20:31 ↗ let the let organizations know that this

20:35 ↗ capacity grant is available how do you

20:38 ↗ communicate with them initially it is

20:40 ↗ communicated out through all of the

20:42 ↗ city's traditional channels of our

20:45 ↗ e-news and on our website as well as all

20:50 ↗ of the staff members that service

20:52 ↗ nonprofits and our communities send it

20:54 ↗ out to all of their list so Human

20:57 ↗ Services staff person would send it to

20:59 ↗ all the Human Services organizations

21:01 ↗ that have ever applied same thing for

21:03 ↗ arts for Parks for economic development

21:09 ↗ wasn't me understand thank you Amy

21:11 ↗ I appreciate your time here so the

21:14 ↗ contracts for service is so that does

21:16 ↗ have my attention and I I do agree and

21:18 ↗ you've already heard this evening and

21:20 ↗ thank you for the information that's in

21:21 ↗ the letter that talks about when we

21:23 ↗ first funded the Friends group and for

21:26 ↗ just I was I was highly involved with

21:29 ↗ that and beginning a matter of fact the

21:31 ↗ administration originally tight turned

21:33 ↗ them down and we asked them to come

21:36 ↗ anyway and make pitch directly to the

21:37 ↗ council and during that process they got

21:40 ↗ their nonprofit status and all of a

21:42 ↗ sudden they were alleged eligible and we

21:44 ↗ called upon Sammamish I said come on do

21:46 ↗ it now so let's get these guys off the

21:47 ↗ ground and that was always with the

21:50 ↗ strong

21:51 ↗ commitment that they would develop a

21:52 ↗ fundraising development capacity and and

21:56 ↗ and so that I'm disappointed that that

21:59 ↗ hasn't happened and I don't know the

22:00 ↗ reasons why or why not but this I

22:03 ↗ understand this recommendation it really

22:06 ↗ doesn't feel like the same contracts as

22:08 ↗ I think the chamber is down home fourth

22:10 ↗ of July

22:10 ↗ it's just specific to the very specific

22:12 ↗ so we used to run that parade and now

22:16 ↗ the chamber does it for us History

22:18 ↗ Museum is probably for because of the

22:20 ↗ archiving and just for the for the

22:23 ↗ preservation of historical artifacts and

22:26 ↗ Records I mean that's that work

22:27 ↗ contracting that service for them and

22:30 ↗ you said mountains to sound Greenway

22:31 ↗ what do you know what they are there's

22:33 ↗ is I don't know specifically so so

22:37 ↗ that's okay the details but but so this

22:39 ↗ it feels like a stretch to me to put

22:42 ↗ actually both of these organizations in

22:44 ↗ there I mean they're great organizations

22:45 ↗ that do things that we value I

22:47 ↗ personally value I know member many of

22:49 ↗ the community value and we hope with

22:50 ↗ their successful long term there's no

22:52 ↗ doubt about all that but this has gone a

22:54 ↗ little askew that we that it says right

22:56 ↗ in here for friends its organization's

22:59 ↗ operations in its entirety that is

23:03 ↗ that's not yeah I mean if if you at the

23:08 ↗ budget that they've provided in their

23:10 ↗ application there their budget is

23:13 ↗ primarily status stuff right is I'm just

23:17 ↗ saying that when I really compare it to

23:19 ↗ the I compare the history and kind of

23:21 ↗ what was the promise when we brought it

23:22 ↗ and we decided to fund them originally

23:24 ↗ this hasn't really worked out that way

23:26 ↗ and now to be in the contract for

23:29 ↗ service category well it's it's gone off

23:33 ↗ a little bit more so I am very

23:36 ↗ interested in learning hearing more

23:38 ↗ because it about their plans and whether

23:42 ↗ or not they're really going to develop

23:43 ↗ this development or fundraising

23:45 ↗ capability because without that and we

23:48 ↗ can't be though they they're they're a

23:50 ↗ Department of the city if we're

23:51 ↗ providing a hundred percent of their

23:52 ↗ funds and and and and so we have to have

23:55 ↗ some conversation here that doesn't

23:57 ↗ that's not quite what we envisioned and

23:59 ↗ the commitment we were trying to make

24:01 ↗ three years ago when we first funded

24:03 ↗ them I'm not as familiar with the trails

24:06 ↗ club but it says in the document serving

24:09 ↗ as a valuable link among the volunteers

24:11 ↗ trail users and the city and I

24:13 ↗ understand that lays on role but they

24:15 ↗ get it and it sounds like a slight

24:16 ↗ redefinition of the contract for service

24:19 ↗ when you consider parades and historical

24:21 ↗ stuff that the other groups do so I'm

24:23 ↗ just raising just a little yellow flag

24:25 ↗ for you so you know where my head is I

24:27 ↗ know that these are still going to come

24:29 ↗ through the budgeting process and it

24:31 ↗ would it would I would be happy to get

24:35 ↗ more detail maybe testimony from those

24:38 ↗ organizations about about you know about

24:41 ↗ their longevity going forward because

24:43 ↗ because this especially at a hundred

24:46 ↗ percent of operation that's that's

24:48 ↗ counter to kind of unwritten city policy

24:51 ↗ for nonprofits so this is actually not

24:54 ↗ 100 percent of their budget but the but

24:57 ↗ the request would cover and the

25:00 ↗ recommendation covers operations it's

25:03 ↗ not a project or program okay so in the

25:06 ↗ memo it says operations operations in

25:10 ↗ organizations operations in its entirety

25:12 ↗ so I meant that I took that to be the

25:14 ↗ entire operation sorry that is not

25:16 ↗ completely clear it is not the the

25:19 ↗ amount would just cover basically

25:22 ↗ staffing and general operations but it's

25:25 ↗ not their entire budget okay thank you

25:28 ↗ so that the way that's written yeah not

25:34 ↗ their entire budget that's a big deal

25:36 ↗ and as far as the others in capacity

25:38 ↗ again I think this is I think it's a

25:40 ↗ great program that the city does I mean

25:42 ↗ it's very rare that a nonprofits had

25:43 ↗ access to public funds for capacity

25:47 ↗ building and we I mean it's a great

25:50 ↗ thing that our community does every one

25:51 ↗ of them benefit and I thought that the

25:53 ↗ the reports we got last January for what

25:56 ↗ happened in 2017 that was fantastic to

25:59 ↗ come in and afterwards and have people

26:01 ↗ tell us how they benefited from this and

26:04 ↗ I think that's a that's felt like a

26:06 ↗ valuable partnership for all of us so I

26:09 ↗ appreciate the way that's unfolding

26:11 ↗ glad and I'm looking forward to what

26:14 ↗ we're gonna hear January and January

26:15 ↗ after that and thank you

26:17 ↗ deputy council president batiste thank

26:20 ↗ you so I am as as I'm looking through

26:24 ↗ this just a couple of thoughts I I would

26:28 ↗ echo some of the questions and and

26:30 ↗ comments that councilmember winter Stein

26:33 ↗ had just made and to get more

26:36 ↗ information about that I know that you

26:39 ↗ know over the years as we've looked at

26:42 ↗ Human Services grants and then capacity

26:45 ↗ building and now we're talking about a

26:48 ↗ sort of this this third area is is just

26:52 ↗ really trying to understand from from

26:56 ↗ you know a 10,000 foot level what

27:00 ↗ everyone is applying for and and trying

27:02 ↗ to sort of bring that together I mean I

27:05 ↗ guess I'm constantly trying to bring all

27:07 ↗ of that together under one umbrella so I

27:10 ↗ can better understand it but I and and

27:13 ↗ we had also talked about the $10 per

27:15 ↗ capita which would my understanding

27:18 ↗ would be that that would only be

27:19 ↗ speaking about the Human Services grants

27:22 ↗ and so lots of questions that have come

27:25 ↗ up but the other comment that I wanted

27:27 ↗ to make is that over the years this has

27:30 ↗ gotten so much better I've watched

27:33 ↗ everything evolve on the Human Services

27:35 ↗ side in terms of how they are analyzing

27:39 ↗ all of the grants and the criteria

27:42 ↗ they're using and now this program is

27:44 ↗ also building out and we're getting so

27:48 ↗ much more information and questions are

27:50 ↗ are popping up as we do that but I feel

27:53 ↗ like all of these processes are getting

27:57 ↗ stronger and it's starting to kind of

27:59 ↗ come together under that umbrella which

28:01 ↗ is has always been important for me I've

28:05 ↗ always wanted to see it that way and the

28:08 ↗ last comment that I wanted to make is

28:09 ↗ that having the review panel I think is

28:12 ↗ really powerful and I and one thing that

28:14 ↗ I really love seeing is that we brought

28:18 ↗ together different Commission's to form

28:21 ↗ that panel which is something that

28:24 ↗ we've talked about in the past as is

28:26 ↗ just getting that connection between the

28:29 ↗ the Commission's of the city and that's

28:31 ↗ one way that we're doing that so I did I

28:34 ↗ think that there's a lot of good work

28:35 ↗ and things are evolving but as you've

28:39 ↗ heard from some of the questions we

28:40 ↗ probably I'm thinking more information

28:43 ↗ would be right in that area

28:46 ↗ that's remember Ramos thank you again I

28:50 ↗ said I love I love the process this year

28:52 ↗ for sure and I really like the one like

28:54 ↗ encompassed Northwest is a new one

28:56 ↗ coming in that's really capacity

28:57 ↗ building that's adding a location better

29:00 ↗ in town here that's that's the classic

29:02 ↗ one that really fits perfectly in this

29:03 ↗ this situation so I like that I'm going

29:07 ↗ back to the friends like Sammamish one

29:08 ↗ time and I have a suggestion because I'm

29:11 ↗ afraid if we put this under a contract

29:13 ↗ that it gets lost next year and I'd like

29:17 ↗ to keep it very visible and I'd say to

29:21 ↗ keep it under the grant form so the next

29:23 ↗ year if they come back they need to come

29:25 ↗ back through this process and somehow

29:26 ↗ doesn't get lost in some kind of you

29:29 ↗ know contract thing that we're not aware

29:31 ↗ of because it is turn in it is something

29:33 ↗ different to me

29:34 ↗ that is going to operations compared to

29:37 ↗ these coops trails Club that's me that's

29:39 ↗ a volunteer coordinator that's

29:40 ↗ coordinating things that that fits under

29:42 ↗ our parks department to work with them

29:44 ↗ to do all that that fits that that

29:47 ↗ definition for me under a contract but

29:49 ↗ the Friends of Lake Sammamish that just

29:52 ↗ doesn't quite get there for me so I like

29:55 ↗ to have you know reconsider keeping it

29:56 ↗ very visible in this project grant

29:59 ↗ process there are no way so if they come

30:01 ↗ back next year we can continue talking

30:03 ↗ about this because I do think this is

30:05 ↗ something I don't want to get lost also

30:07 ↗ ongoing funding somewhere that's just

30:08 ↗ really not visible every year that we're

30:10 ↗ looking at because it's the point of

30:15 ↗ this was very different and where it's

30:16 ↗ going and now it's just funding staff

30:18 ↗ that's not the point we originally

30:20 ↗ started with for sure I want to build

30:22 ↗ off that a little bit I think

30:24 ↗ holistically the subject of Human

30:28 ↗ Services grants and sort of community

30:31 ↗ grants I I would like to ask

30:33 ↗ councilmember Rey

30:35 ↗ what he thinks about the idea of maybe

30:37 ↗ asking the administration to bring this

30:39 ↗ back to services as sort of a larger

30:41 ↗ topic and talk about how we want to work

30:43 ↗ this in 2019 and I don't want to put any

30:45 ↗ words in your mouth but I would love to

30:48 ↗ hear your thoughts I think because I was

30:50 ↗ about to raise my hand your timing is

30:53 ↗ perfect I hear those things called grant

30:55 ↗ program integration we have a lot of

30:56 ↗ flat grant programs all very kind of

30:58 ↗ targeted in different ways I'd like to

31:00 ↗ see us find a way to manage them

31:04 ↗ holistically and in an integrated

31:08 ↗ fashion so we get the biggest bang for a

31:09 ↗ buck and so I would love to see the

31:10 ↗ administration come back to services and

31:12 ↗ have a discussion about how we can go

31:15 ↗ about making something like that happen

31:17 ↗ Thank You council president marks all

31:19 ↗ right so we don't take any action this

31:21 ↗ evening but certainly some

31:23 ↗ administration was looking for some

31:25 ↗ feedbacks and feedback was offered other

31:27 ↗ other questions comments

31:31 ↗ I'm so member hunt I think so we had

31:35 ↗ some discussion about what the - what

31:38 ↗ the - nonprofits that are recommended to

31:41 ↗ be moved to contract for service what

31:43 ↗ they and what their proposal would

31:44 ↗ actually have covered and I think it

31:47 ↗ might also be helpful in the bigger

31:48 ↗ discussion about what's being more

31:52 ↗ information about what is being covered

31:53 ↗ under these capacity grants I think it

31:55 ↗ might be helpful because my

31:57 ↗ understanding which is and based on this

32:00 ↗ graph that's on the screen right now is

32:01 ↗ that these were for specifically for

32:06 ↗ targeted staffing and then for friends

32:07 ↗ at Lake Sammamish also for marketing and

32:09 ↗ outreach I mean I think that depending

32:12 ↗ on how exactly that fits into their

32:14 ↗ operations that could be also capacity

32:16 ↗ so I think to see how they fit into the

32:20 ↗ recommendations it would be good to have

32:22 ↗ more information about those and then to

32:24 ↗ be able to compare them to the other

32:27 ↗ recommendations but overall I think that

32:30 ↗ my inclination based on the information

32:33 ↗ is that they do provide services for the

32:36 ↗ city and so they could be considered

32:38 ↗ under this contract for service and it

32:42 ↗ would just be helpful to have more

32:43 ↗ information to sort of

32:45 ↗ confirm that and then I I also really

32:49 ↗ appreciate the idea of looking at the

32:50 ↗ bigger bigger picture about how all of

32:53 ↗ the community grants fit together so

32:55 ↗ that will be I think a really good

32:57 ↗ conversation I think also I'll be

33:01 ↗ interested to see because as I mentioned

33:03 ↗ I think the Human Services grants there

33:05 ↗ was there's a trend increasing in those

33:07 ↗ asks and there's a trend increasing in

33:10 ↗ the community needs as our population

33:12 ↗ grows and then for this program for

33:14 ↗ whatever reason that asks have decreased

33:16 ↗ a little bit and so I wonder if there's

33:19 ↗ maybe a need also for more outreach so

33:22 ↗ the new nonprofits which are the ones

33:23 ↗ that we want to see come forward for the

33:25 ↗ first time with these capacity grants

33:27 ↗ would know about the program as was

33:31 ↗ pointed out capacity grants we want to

33:32 ↗ see we don't want to see the same groups

33:35 ↗ coming forward over and again with the

33:36 ↗ same projects we will kind of want to

33:38 ↗ see new what new projects coming

33:40 ↗ forwards and so I would think that that

33:42 ↗ would be increasing in sort of a similar

33:44 ↗ pattern and so it would be good to look

33:45 ↗ at them together and then see what the

33:47 ↗ options would be for how to make the

33:50 ↗ different programs work together in a

33:52 ↗ complementary way thank you other

33:56 ↗ questions or comments nope with that

34:00 ↗ I'll open it is there anyone in the

34:02 ↗ public that wishes to speak to this

34:03 ↗ issue mr. Kapler

34:14 ↗ David Kepler 255 southeast Andrews it's

34:18 ↗ too bad Stacy's not here she was the pro

34:20 ↗ bono attorney then we formed Friends of

34:24 ↗ Lake Sammamish State Park and could give

34:25 ↗ you a little more information about

34:27 ↗ their ongoing efforts and their

34:30 ↗ importance to the city in terms of the

34:33 ↗ trails Club it's kind of you know we

34:36 ↗ don't charge for our hikes we offer over

34:38 ↗ a hundred a year we give good it we have

34:41 ↗ good insurance to cover anybody that's

34:43 ↗ hurt on a hike we've never had a claim

34:44 ↗ but we still have that insurance so we

34:46 ↗ have a lot of costs and a lot of people

34:48 ↗ in the club just don't bother submitting

34:52 ↗ any costs that you have I forgot to

34:54 ↗ submit my one hundred and five dollar

34:57 ↗ you know booth fee from last year so

35:00 ↗ this year I might remember but you know

35:03 ↗ it's just that's how they are the

35:05 ↗ organization works in terms of

35:08 ↗ volunteering most of our work and has

35:11 ↗ been with King County and DNR to be

35:14 ↗ blunt the city has been in the past

35:17 ↗ harder to work with and I think that's

35:19 ↗ changing or changed but we have this

35:22 ↗ other pattern we do trail work all the

35:25 ↗ time for DNR and County especially DNR

35:28 ↗ and basically on the part you see from

35:31 ↗ Issaquah and Tiger Mountain we never

35:33 ↗ charge you know the great organizations

35:39 ↗ mountain to sound Greenway or other

35:42 ↗ trail groups and all our have contracts

35:45 ↗ for doing their trail work they use a

35:46 ↗ lot of volunteers to do it but they have

35:48 ↗ their contracts to pay for their their

35:50 ↗ staff so our work is with DNR and others

35:55 ↗ is always just we agree on it and do it

35:58 ↗ and there's no no cost we provide all

36:01 ↗ the tools the fuel for any power tools

36:03 ↗ or our own insurance and all of that so

36:06 ↗ it's you can't just say it's got to be a

36:10 ↗ certain percentage of the budget or

36:12 ↗ something like that

36:12 ↗ you got to figure out how it the

36:14 ↗ organization really works but I think

36:17 ↗ almost everything I heard tonight from

36:19 ↗ Council sounded good

36:21 ↗ and I think all of this needs to be

36:23 ↗ figured out a little bit better for sure

36:26 ↗ but hopefully the city will look at 2019

36:29 ↗ a volunteer coordinator like Sammamish

36:31 ↗ and other cities have to help get more

36:34 ↗ volunteer work thank you

36:36 ↗ Thank You mr. Kepler all right with that

36:40 ↗ we will move on now we're gonna talk

36:43 ↗ about ID oh three oh four Senior Center

36:45 ↗ update with Jeff Watling our parks and

36:47 ↗ recreation director sorry I sort of sped

36:52 ↗ through that Thank You council president

36:58 ↗ Mart's could even council yeah excited

37:01 ↗ to be here tonight providing you an

37:02 ↗ opportunity to hear a little bit of the

37:06 ↗ work a lot of the work that we've been

37:07 ↗ doing as we look at long term operations

37:10 ↗ of the Senior Center this year and then

37:12 ↗ in a lot of ways set the table and

37:15 ↗ better prepare for the more in-depth

37:18 ↗ discussion we'll be having on August

37:20 ↗ 20th in in work session this discussion

37:25 ↗ will certainly help us to be best

37:26 ↗ prepared for that on the 20th and really

37:30 ↗ as we're marching towards and moving

37:32 ↗ towards this policy discussion and

37:34 ↗ ultimately a policy decision on long

37:36 ↗ term operation of that facility

37:39 ↗ so earlier this year at the January 16th

37:42 ↗ meeting we requested the ability to

37:47 ↗ pursue and explore if there's any

37:51 ↗ potential operating partners for the

37:53 ↗ senior center with that request we also

37:57 ↗ requested some additional resources that

37:59 ↗ you granted through that work we

38:03 ↗ interviewed a number of interested

38:07 ↗ candidates and consultants we ended up

38:09 ↗ hiring a consultants Wendy wants a Nabi

38:12 ↗ to partner with us in this work that

38:14 ↗ work really began in earnest in late

38:17 ↗ February she's been a great partner and

38:20 ↗ a great resource with her senior

38:22 ↗ services experience we spent a lot of

38:25 ↗ time both Brian and I and the parks

38:28 ↗ department in Courtney

38:30 ↗ at the senior center but also David

38:33 ↗ Fujimoto and some of our sustainability

38:36 ↗ staff reviewing the Senior Center

38:39 ↗ Advisory Group report taking a look at

38:43 ↗ vision and values of how we want to see

38:45 ↗ operation of the Senior Center long term

38:49 ↗ in a lot of ways Wendy's feedback was

38:52 ↗ very confirming it was very confirming

38:54 ↗ of the work that we were able to do with

38:55 ↗ the Advisory Group last year in terms of

38:58 ↗ setting the vision and values that came

39:01 ↗ out of that very public conversation

39:03 ↗ about long-term operation of the

39:05 ↗ facility if you remember from that

39:07 ↗ report I provided to you last year that

39:11 ↗ there was some real anchor guiding

39:13 ↗ principles that were set those guiding

39:15 ↗ principles really again in a lot of ways

39:18 ↗ were confirmed by the consultant and

39:21 ↗ will continue to be very foundational as

39:24 ↗ we move this conversation forward we

39:29 ↗ also began through the work with with

39:32 ↗ Wendy and Brian and I began a multitude

39:36 ↗ of exploratory conversations with

39:39 ↗ potential operating partners this is

39:42 ↗ both local nonprofit agencies that have

39:45 ↗ had an interest in the Senior Center

39:47 ↗ that have provided some degree of

39:49 ↗ seniors service support we also had

39:52 ↗ conversations with many regional

39:54 ↗ agencies and and perspective partners I

39:57 ↗ think it was really good important work

39:59 ↗ because it really helped us to get an

40:01 ↗ understanding of the lay of the land

40:02 ↗ who's out there who is in a position to

40:06 ↗ look at expansion what are some of the

40:09 ↗ issues that are facing really senior

40:13 ↗ service agencies we also took the time

40:15 ↗ and did a survey amongst our Senior

40:17 ↗ Center patrons and got some terrific

40:19 ↗ feedback there as we as I said earlier

40:25 ↗ those exploratory conversations I think

40:30 ↗ again we're helpful we're positive and

40:32 ↗ that it really helped us to understand

40:34 ↗ the lay of the land what it really told

40:36 ↗ us though the reality is there's not a

40:38 ↗ lot

40:39 ↗ of capacity there's not a ton of

40:42 ↗ interest there were aren't agencies

40:44 ↗ lining up at our city board are ready to

40:47 ↗ come in and and operate the facility

40:50 ↗ with that information it did help us to

40:53 ↗ frame what our more formal outreach was

40:56 ↗ going to be and so we put together a LOI

41:02 ↗ process a letter of interest with the

41:06 ↗ help of Wendy issued that that LOI

41:10 ↗ process really looked a lot like an RFQ

41:14 ↗ but really allows us to find the the

41:20 ↗ agencies that do have an interest in

41:22 ↗ pursuing operation and then allowing us

41:24 ↗ to have further conversation to vet what

41:27 ↗ that partnership may look like had a

41:32 ↗ chance in June on June 12th to update

41:34 ↗ the services and Safety Committee

41:36 ↗ meeting at that time the LOI process

41:39 ↗ hasn't closed we did close that a couple

41:42 ↗ of weeks ago we've had one we had one

41:45 ↗ response from that LOI and that was from

41:48 ↗ Eastside friends of seniors what we've

41:51 ↗ doing now is we've reviewed that is

41:53 ↗ we've scheduled a series of meetings

41:55 ↗ with them our first meeting is this

41:57 ↗ Friday the intent of those meetings over

42:02 ↗ these next few weeks is to learn more

42:03 ↗ about the operating model that they're

42:06 ↗ looking at learn more about their

42:07 ↗ capacity as an agency as well as budget

42:11 ↗ that what they're seeing and needing as

42:14 ↗ an operating budget this will give us a

42:16 ↗ much clearer picture to provide to you

42:18 ↗ on August 20th and understand what that

42:21 ↗ opportunity looks like congruently at

42:24 ↗ the at the same time we are also looking

42:28 ↗ and have been looking at what a

42:31 ↗ long-term city operating model would

42:34 ↗ look like we've been building only an

42:36 ↗ operational plan but what a budget would

42:39 ↗ look like around that around that model

42:41 ↗ we feel like on the 20th and what we

42:43 ↗ want to be prepared to do on the 20th is

42:45 ↗ provide a good comparison given that we

42:48 ↗ have the one LOI response just to allow

42:52 ↗ us to measure

42:53 ↗ what possible third-party operation

42:56 ↗ would look like versus what city

42:59 ↗ operation would look like all along as

43:05 ↗ we've been going through this process

43:07 ↗ our goal has been transparency really in

43:10 ↗ this 18 months of interim operation that

43:13 ↗ we've been under so far with the senior

43:15 ↗ center so we have been sharing news with

43:18 ↗ the senior center patrons as we've been

43:20 ↗ going along both as staff Cortney and

43:23 ↗ Brian doing a great job of that I've had

43:25 ↗ a chance to go over and join the seniors

43:27 ↗ for lunch and give updates from time to

43:29 ↗ time and Mary Mayor Polly has done so as

43:32 ↗ well our plan like I said on the 20th

43:36 ↗ would be to take a look at these two

43:39 ↗ long-term operating scenarios in a

43:41 ↗ little more detail be able to provide

43:44 ↗ and do some comparison work on what

43:46 ↗ programs and service models would look

43:48 ↗ like what staffing plans would look like

43:51 ↗ what budgets would look like more

43:53 ↗ specifically what city funding and in a

43:57 ↗ lot of ways what that net operating

43:59 ↗ level may look like would love in our

44:04 ↗ discussion when I'm done with a staff

44:06 ↗ report to get an idea if there's any

44:08 ↗ other information that you would feel

44:10 ↗ deem helpful as we start to dive a

44:14 ↗ little deeper into some specific

44:16 ↗ operating models on the 20th we also

44:20 ↗ anticipate as we're moving into this

44:23 ↗ decision process some public engagement

44:26 ↗ during this phase we would love the

44:29 ↗ opportunity to seek some feedback if if

44:32 ↗ there's residents who have preference on

44:35 ↗ on either of those operating models

44:37 ↗ again as we discuss this we could do it

44:40 ↗ either way I'd really want to know your

44:42 ↗ interest would you like to have that

44:44 ↗ information prior to the 20th or

44:46 ↗ following the 20th the plan schedule

44:49 ↗ wise would be following that

44:53 ↗ conversation on the 20th moving towards

44:56 ↗ some type of policy direction in

44:58 ↗ September that would allow us as we're

45:02 ↗ working with the mayor's office on

45:04 ↗ the budget that will be presented to you

45:06 ↗ in October we'd be able to take that at

45:09 ↗ least that direction and build the 2019

45:12 ↗ budget accordingly and then move right

45:15 ↗ into budget deliberations this fall

45:20 ↗ questions know there are some

45:23 ↗ councilmember Rey these are sort of

45:24 ↗ questions and sort of comments so it's

45:27 ↗ mayor Pauly's not here to tell me I

45:28 ↗ can't make comments I just wanted to say

45:31 ↗ I think the parks department and the

45:33 ↗ team at the Senior Center recovered from

45:36 ↗ a very difficult situation and from what

45:39 ↗ I understand the feedback from the

45:40 ↗ patrons of the the Senior Center is very

45:42 ↗ very high right now so you know kudos

45:45 ↗ horibe who jumped into that breach to

45:47 ↗ get that ship on an even keel so a

45:52 ↗ couple things that I think are really

45:53 ↗ important that we consider when looking

45:54 ↗ at the different options one is what are

45:56 ↗ the cost comparisons what's the absolute

45:59 ↗ dollars out-of-pocket if we run it as a

46:00 ↗ city service versus not-for-profit the

46:04 ↗ other one is one of the other funding

46:06 ↗ options that are available in terms of

46:08 ↗ grants for the city versus grants for

46:09 ↗ not-for-profits and then finally and you

46:12 ↗ touched on this Jeff a little bit ISM

46:13 ↗ how do we solicit patron the people who

46:15 ↗ actually use this Senior Center

46:17 ↗ how do we solicit their input and and

46:19 ↗ how do we ask them what they considered

46:22 ↗ their desired outcomes what do they want

46:24 ↗ this to look like and so instead of

46:26 ↗ getting you know a third party or the

46:30 ↗ city let's talk about the outcomes we're

46:31 ↗ trying to achieve and then you know what

46:33 ↗ are the factors you know the things that

46:35 ↗ would be critical to success in

46:38 ↗ achieving those outcomes and and I more

46:41 ↗ than anything else want to hear from

46:43 ↗ those folks about what success would

46:45 ↗ look like to them there wasn't a

46:48 ↗ question in there at all

46:55 ↗ other questions or feedback comes from

46:57 ↗ over Ramos yeah I agree with everything

47:01 ↗ he said and didn't really doing a great

47:03 ↗ job I love the Senior Center now and I

47:05 ↗ stopped by occasionally because I

47:06 ↗ actually qualify but will whisper that

47:08 ↗ now but the other thing I guess I'd like

47:11 ↗ to keep in mind those things like we're

47:13 ↗ nonprofits could fit more advantageous

47:15 ↗ in the city there's there's

47:17 ↗ consideration I also like to consider

47:19 ↗ what what the city is doing now of

47:21 ↗ considering public rental that facility

47:25 ↗ when it's not being used as a Senior

47:27 ↗ Center particularly weekends and so

47:28 ↗ forth because that is a wonderful

47:31 ↗ facility Issaquah is in dire need of

47:33 ↗ meeting spaces and where folks can get

47:36 ↗ together so when you're playing with

47:37 ↗ those models really try to consider that

47:40 ↗ keeping that option as open as possible

47:42 ↗ because I think it's a great service for

47:43 ↗ the community when the Senior Center is

47:46 ↗ not using it because it's a great place

47:47 ↗ and I think it our city is in dire need

47:50 ↗ of the places like that to be able to

47:52 ↗ use and to rent out for various folks so

47:54 ↗ keep that in mind as well don't remember

47:58 ↗ hunt thank you

48:00 ↗ I think thank you for the list of

48:02 ↗ information that that will be provided

48:05 ↗ at August 20th I think it's pretty

48:08 ↗ comprehensive list one thing that I

48:09 ↗ would be in addition I would

48:12 ↗ additionally like to see would be if

48:15 ↗ it's if there's a staffing model also so

48:18 ↗ how much how is that going to impact

48:22 ↗ operations so sort of a bigger picture

48:25 ↗ on how does this impact parks operations

48:27 ↗ at parks operations is staffing and what

48:30 ↗ does that look like in parks operations

48:31 ↗ if another entity is managing the Senior

48:37 ↗ Center so I think that would be that

48:39 ↗ would be the one sort of big question

48:42 ↗ that I have that isn't on the list

48:43 ↗ when you say Park operations more Park

48:47 ↗ Department impacted Department right in

48:51 ↗ terms of does this allow sort of

48:53 ↗ organization of different organizations

48:56 ↗ different people to take different roles

48:57 ↗ or any sort of adjustments like that I

48:59 ↗ must say I imagine that it is it well

49:04 ↗ it's a managing this would mean whether

49:09 ↗ you do that or it doesn't it affects how

49:12 ↗ the rest of the department operates I

49:14 ↗ would think it's a whole new service

49:15 ↗ unit that we'd be entering into yep

49:19 ↗ deputy council president batise so Jeff

49:23 ↗ thanks for for the presentation overview

49:27 ↗ I just this has been a long road and I

49:33 ↗ just wanted to thank the staff and

49:36 ↗ everyone who has who has been working

49:39 ↗ toward this toward this point because

49:42 ↗ it's been a lot of hard work and we just

49:44 ↗ get so many great comments back about

49:47 ↗ how everyone is feeling about the Senior

49:49 ↗ Center now so that that's fantastic and

49:52 ↗ I I think when we go forward to the 20th

49:55 ↗ just over views of the public

49:59 ↗ communication and outreach is important

50:02 ↗ and then you just sort of best practices

50:05 ↗ lessons learned how things would be

50:07 ↗ structured going forward so we would not

50:11 ↗ you know face any of the problems we've

50:13 ↗ had in the past so an overview of that I

50:16 ↗ think would be important Thanks

50:21 ↗ there are questions or comments so I'll

50:25 ↗ add that you know when I when we look at

50:29 ↗ things in August I really want the one

50:33 ↗ of the areas for me will be the

50:35 ↗ counterpoint to the cost of the various

50:40 ↗ options is going to be what if any

50:42 ↗ difference we see in potential service

50:44 ↗ delivery and that was something that

50:47 ↗ when we were looking at the operation of

50:50 ↗ the Senior Center previously was a

50:53 ↗ really important part of you know the

50:56 ↗ ultimate decisions that we made to bring

50:58 ↗ this in under temporary city oversight

51:01 ↗ and so it'll be part be a big part of

51:03 ↗ whatever the next stage is for us and

51:06 ↗ what things you know under under the OP

51:09 ↗ dozen of the various options what things

51:11 ↗ we think we would be able to do

51:12 ↗ internally what things we think we would

51:13 ↗ be able to partner with and so how that

51:15 ↗ would impact the users of the Senior

51:18 ↗ Center that's a real area of interest of

51:20 ↗ mine

51:20 ↗ so not just cost but sort of benefit

51:23 ↗ what kind of what kind of programs that

51:25 ↗ we expect offer

51:26 ↗ councilmember Rea no I I was listening

51:29 ↗ to my esteemed colleague at the end of

51:31 ↗ the dais have we looked at a hybrid

51:33 ↗ model so including both city staff and

51:37 ↗ not-for-profit working any in a

51:40 ↗ collaborative way to so you know a

51:42 ↗ little bit of a best explored operating

51:45 ↗ models yes even to the point of last

51:48 ↗ year

51:49 ↗ I think this LOI process and again I

51:51 ↗ don't meet you know these conversations

51:53 ↗ will be having with this prospective

51:55 ↗ partner it'll it'll be great to explore

52:02 ↗ what their interests are what their

52:04 ↗ capacity is right now we're looking at

52:08 ↗ one or the other but there's nothing

52:12 ↗ that to preclude if what comes out of

52:14 ↗ this is some type of partnered operation

52:19 ↗ and as you were as you were responding I

52:21 ↗ was being inspired you know there's

52:23 ↗ going to be some transition period if we

52:25 ↗ say do transition to a not-for-profit so

52:28 ↗ how would we operate in that transition

52:30 ↗ period and and kind of working through

52:33 ↗ that as we we look at the different

52:34 ↗ options about you know do we we can do a

52:37 ↗ full transition how long do we take to

52:39 ↗ transition work through those kinds of

52:41 ↗ questions I think would be really

52:42 ↗ interesting to explore in the 20th be a

52:44 ↗ careful part of either model is yeah

52:46 ↗ transition other questions

52:51 ↗ promise me more interest I'm thank you

52:53 ↗ Jeff this is only related to the

52:56 ↗ facility like Bill talked about weakens

53:00 ↗ and maybe evenings perhaps a year ago

53:04 ↗ some former staff of yours and some

53:07 ↗ former people from I think it was

53:10 ↗ Catholic Community Services who were at

53:13 ↗ conversations about the meals program

53:16 ↗ potentially using that facility I think

53:18 ↗ this is something Katie had had

53:20 ↗ conversations with them about and I know

53:22 ↗ it just it went that conversation just

53:24 ↗ never went anywhere and I don't know if

53:26 ↗ it was ever brought to your attention

53:28 ↗ but I if that is something that could be

53:34 ↗ maybe brought to a logical conclusion I

53:36 ↗ think it was never really concluded I

53:38 ↗ think it just fell off the plate I do

53:40 ↗ know that program over there many people

53:44 ↗ who've put it on did after understanding

53:46 ↗ and seeing what was that this other

53:48 ↗ building felt that that was a far

53:50 ↗ superior location so as put that in your

53:53 ↗ calculus please and if it's not to be

53:55 ↗ it's not to be but now since the time

53:58 ↗ you're looking at overall operations of

53:59 ↗ that building as well that would be one

54:02 ↗ that I would ask you to look at

54:04 ↗ absolutely I was aware of that

54:06 ↗ exploratory work we did respond and let

54:08 ↗ CCS know we felt in the in the interim

54:11 ↗ that we are right now in would be hard

54:13 ↗ to commit to anything long term as we

54:16 ↗ look at what the long-term operating

54:18 ↗ model looking at that programmatic piece

54:20 ↗ and what it would mean to be there what

54:24 ↗ it would mean I think it'll be

54:25 ↗ interesting to compare and just for for

54:32 ↗ preparation for the 20th even as we look

54:34 ↗ at city operating model that revenue

54:37 ↗ piece is an important one and council

54:39 ↗ member Ramos touched on those evenings

54:42 ↗ do we make evenings available for for

54:45 ↗ rental and capturing some rental to help

54:47 ↗ offset that net operating cost or do we

54:50 ↗ look at doing something programmatically

54:52 ↗ that might not be a revenue piece

54:55 ↗ there's a there's a cost benefit to that

54:58 ↗ that we'd want to certainly consider but

55:01 ↗ it is in the it's in the mix as thank

55:04 ↗ you something to discuss anything else

55:10 ↗ all right

55:12 ↗ well thank you very much we anything

55:15 ↗ else for you Jeff nope all right any

55:17 ↗ regional activities or issues that

55:19 ↗ anybody wants to bring up nope

55:22 ↗ I I'll bring up one roof well I'm sorry

55:25 ↗ we will take kind of you have some

55:31 ↗ thoughts on this mr. Caplin yeah yeah I

55:34 ↗ don't want to have to sue the city or a

55:36 ↗ new group like I had to do the last one

55:38 ↗ but when they were trying to give away

55:40 ↗ all the assets and we at least save one

55:43 ↗ bus and some other assets but anyway you

55:48 ↗ know people who at the senior center

55:51 ↗ when things were going really bad and

55:53 ↗ when the first city started taking it

55:55 ↗ over they went out to a lot of different

55:58 ↗ places to look and check them out and

56:00 ↗ some had already were pretty familiar

56:02 ↗ with other senior centers and

56:04 ↗ that they brought talked about I think

56:07 ↗ the most maybe it was was maybe a tie

56:09 ↗ with Redman was was can't which this

56:12 ↗ this young man here knows something

56:14 ↗ about and that was often talked about

56:17 ↗ and still talked about how great the

56:19 ↗ they can't Senior Center is so but I'm

56:22 ↗ sure it's not cheap and I'm sure if the

56:24 ↗ city running this is not going to be

56:25 ↗ cheap if it if it's some kind of hybrid

56:29 ↗ I'm even if it's almost a hundred

56:32 ↗ percent a different group running it

56:34 ↗ they're still going to be oversight I'm

56:36 ↗ convinced and not be like we had before

56:39 ↗ where there I felt the city had those

56:45 ↗ oversight but they chose not to exercise

56:48 ↗ it till way at the way at the end but I

56:52 ↗ think you know whichever way it goes the

56:55 ↗ people right now we're really happy when

56:57 ↗ you go over there and talk to him it's

56:59 ↗ gonna be hard for any group attempt to

57:02 ↗ to to be better than what the city's

57:04 ↗ been doing I would say but at the same

57:06 ↗ time it could be pretty the city city

57:10 ↗ pays well right its cities people are

57:13 ↗ not are expensive and there are high

57:16 ↗ quality people but in what how you

57:19 ↗ balance the needs of our senior citizens

57:22 ↗ with the cost is some is that's your job

57:26 ↗ so I I think we'll end up with something

57:29 ↗ really great or continue something

57:30 ↗ really great thank you very much mr.

57:34 ↗ captain thank you mister cap would that

57:41 ↗ made me think of one thing that I think

57:43 ↗ would help me with this conversation

57:44 ↗ which would just be case studies or a

57:47 ↗ couple examples of operating models from

57:49 ↗ other cities that would be that would be

57:52 ↗ helpful because I and I could see how

57:54 ↗ other success stories have worked out

57:57 ↗ thanks all right thank you anything else

58:01 ↗ I know I want to mention one thing

58:05 ↗ totally you do not have a Landon Shore

58:07 ↗ Committee meeting next month and hope

58:09 ↗ you saw that announcement

58:10 ↗ I did see so you won't miss that no all

58:14 ↗ right thank you I appreciate that

58:17 ↗ heads up I'll mention for the good of

58:19 ↗ order one one thing which is a little

58:22 ↗ bit serious there was news this weekend

58:25 ↗ that Burien mayor Jimmy Mata got

58:26 ↗ attacked at the old Berrian block party

58:29 ↗ and a lot of the details are still up in

58:31 ↗ the air but it looks pretty troubling

58:33 ↗ and all of us who are involved in

58:35 ↗ municipal government certainly have our

58:38 ↗ thoughts out for mayor Mata they did

58:40 ↗ actually arrest a suspect this evening

58:42 ↗ in that attack so I just thought I would

58:45 ↗ mention that and just mention our

58:47 ↗ thoughts are with mayor Mata and with

58:50 ↗ that we are adjourned

58:51 ↗ thank you very much

59:03 ↗ you

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Council / Members (6)

Mariah Bettise

Victoria Hunt

Tola Marts (Mayor Pro Tem)

Bill Ramos

Chris Reh

Paul Winterstein

Staff (4)

Emily Moon, Interim City Administrator

Christine Eggers, City Clerk

Lori Brown, Human Resources Director

Lauren Knox, Human Resources Analyst

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Stacy Goodman

Mary Lou Paul, Mayor