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Tuesday, July 21, 2015

7:00 PM · 35m 56s · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topic
2. AGENDA ITEMS
2a
Olde Town Terrain Walk stops at Pedestrian Park, Historic Shell Station Feedback / Discussion AB 7035
packet pp.3–8
Topics: Land UseTransportationParks
Staff report:
DEPARTMENT OF Economic Development, Andrea Snyder COUNCIL COMMITTEE LIAISON n/a OTHER COUNCIL MEETINGS n/a EXHIBITS A. Terrain Walk Map
1:01 she's gone as of Friday let me text
1:05 barking yeah that's real you're right
1:08 i'll call the july 21st special meeting
1:13 of the City Council we've got one item
1:17 on our agenda that's agenda bill 70 35
1:21 old town terrain walk that will be a
1:27 presentation of old town of the old town
1:30 vitality goal the old town vitality task
1:35 force update and then our walk which
1:39 will not be televised and then we will
1:43 return back here for final observations
1:46 and that portion of the council meeting
1:49 will be televised this special meeting
1:53 focuses on Old Town and provides the
1:57 council an opportunity to discuss
2:00 current vitality efforts as well as the
2:03 future of old town with the mayor's Old
2:06 Town vitality task force and the
2:10 downtown issaquah Association who are
2:13 here and will be walking with us and
2:17 serving as guides as we take our tour
2:21 the public is invited to accompany us on
2:26 the terrain walk of the central business
2:29 district our first stopping point will
2:32 be pedestrian park at the corner of
2:36 sunset and front and there we will
2:40 discuss potential changes to the park
2:43 and perhaps how to invest the twenty
2:46 thousand dollars the council has set
2:48 aside for the park this year of staff
2:53 will be seeking feedback from the
2:55 council on these ideas at at that time
2:59 the tour will then proceed down Front
3:03 Street and each task force member will
3:05 pair up with a council member to
3:07 highlight specific observations and
3:10 themes
3:11 the task force has discovered our next
3:15 stop will be at the historic shell
3:17 station where deal will present on their
3:20 efforts to add vibrancy to that space
3:24 finally as I mentioned before we will
3:28 return via the Rainier trail to council
3:31 chambers where there will be an
3:32 opportunity to discuss final thoughts
3:35 and observations and to kick the meeting
3:39 off this evening our economic
3:42 development director Keith Niven for the
3:47 staff presentation
3:59 Thank You mr. mayor City Council Keith
4:01 Niven with economic development so this
4:05 evening we're not going to spend much
4:06 time here because the point is really to
4:08 get out and see some things and talk
4:10 about kind of what's going on downtown
4:13 but I wanted to just kind of give a
4:14 little bit of context so the city
4:17 approved the old town plan in October of
4:20 1999 and here's the geography that
4:23 encompasses old town and you know the
4:27 plan itself has some very different
4:31 design standards and Development
4:33 standards for the old town and the CBD
4:36 area of our city and the idea was that
4:39 this area should stand out and be it'd
4:42 be different perceptually from the rest
4:44 of the city and so you know as we went
4:48 through the 2014 goal-setting session
4:52 there were a number of goals that were
4:54 proposed by the City Council that were
4:57 aimed at at the old town area and here's
5:01 a list of those proposed goals now after
5:05 we talked through those with the council
5:07 we kind of came to an understanding that
5:10 we would consolidate those into one city
5:14 council goal and that was to enhance old
5:16 town vitality now that goal had really
5:20 two actions associated with it the first
5:22 one was to identify an execute an
5:25 immediate public investment opportunity
5:27 for old town that will help enhance the
5:30 old helms vitality and we'll talk about
5:32 that tonight and I think that's part of
5:34 the conversation that we're going to
5:35 have at pedestrian park and the second
5:37 part is to form an ad hoc committee to
5:42 provide recommendations to the mayor and
5:43 what the community can do to enhance old
5:46 town's vitality and that's that's kind
5:48 of the balance of the conversation this
5:49 evening is to kind of talk with you
5:52 about how the conversations have been
5:54 going so far so with that I'm going to
5:57 stop and I'm going to turn it over to
5:59 Andrea who is going to I think lead you
6:02 through the next part of the
6:03 conversation Thank You key
6:10 so I just like to give you an update on
6:13 what the task force has been doing so
6:16 far first starting off with an
6:19 introduction of the task force members
6:21 who many of whom are here tonight so
6:24 we'll start with who's here first Karen
6:27 Donovan with the downtown issaquah
6:30 Association and also Keith woth who's a
6:34 commercial downtown property owner also
6:39 i'm going to pick on Cyrus who just
6:42 joined us Cyrus coron Cyrus Kron is
6:48 serving as representative for the
6:51 Chamber of Commerce on our task force
6:52 and he's also a downtown resident we
6:55 have Todd sergeant who is the city's
6:59 representative on the historic landmark
7:01 in committee and he's also affiliated
7:03 with the history museums and as an
7:05 architect so he brings those skills and
7:06 perspectives with him to the task force
7:08 Michelle drove doll who manages the
7:11 issaquah library Karen able with art
7:14 East and I'm just making sure I'm not
7:19 forgetting anyone else who maybe have
7:21 snuck in all right the other members who
7:23 were not able to make it our include
7:26 Corey Walters with disco food and
7:28 clothing bank and she's also a downtown
7:29 resident Trey Bailey with uphill running
7:32 which is a store in the front street
7:34 plaza area and he's also a downtown
7:36 resident and Barack rosenblum who's a
7:39 member of dia and he is an issaquah
7:41 entrepreneur and also a downtown
7:43 resident and then finally but not least
7:47 we have Rob hunts who is of course the
7:50 director of the village theater also a
7:52 commercial downtown property owner and
7:54 he has been involved in previous old
7:56 town planning efforts so he brings with
7:58 him that historical perspective as well
8:00 so as you can see we have a wide
8:02 representation of all sorts of
8:04 stakeholders within the downtown area
8:06 and I've been saying downtown because
8:09 while the goal is related to old town
8:13 and Keith showed that big old town map
8:16 which is actually a bigger area than
8:17 many of us realize that we've been
8:20 really focusing on the CBD
8:22 so the process so far has included a
8:25 walking audits that the task force has
8:28 performed we've also taken a look at
8:30 what other cities have done so what do
8:32 we like about these other cities what do
8:34 we think might work here in issaquah and
8:36 what would that look like here in
8:37 issaquah they perform their own version
8:40 of us strengths weaknesses opportunities
8:41 and threats analysis and we've also
8:43 taken some look at the existing city
8:46 code that governs old town in the CBD
8:48 and how it relates to city code in other
8:51 parts of the sea such as the newly
8:53 adopted central issaquah plan or the
8:55 highlands or other parts of our city so
9:00 one of the first questions that we had
9:02 to ask was what is vitality so as the
9:05 goal is to find their Charter the task
9:07 force's Charter is to give the mayor a
9:09 list of recommendations on things the
9:11 committee can the community can do to
9:14 enhance Old Town vitality so what is
9:17 vitality what does it mean to this group
9:19 what does it mean for downtown issaquah
9:22 and the first thing that we talked about
9:26 were all these images that come to mind
9:28 about what vitality is so we talked
9:30 about images that include you know lots
9:32 of outdoor public spaces people sitting
9:35 in cafes people having coffee playing
9:39 games interacting on that level local
9:42 stores that serve the community needs
9:43 and this is they they really emphasize
9:46 this point that it's a functional
9:48 downtown one that serves the community
9:51 that it's in that it's not 11 worth or a
9:55 Disney or something like that that's
9:57 more focused on tourists and serving
10:00 tourists but that it's authentic in the
10:02 way that it serves the local community
10:04 first and that if they do that really
10:07 well then the tourists and others will
10:09 come and appreciate it in the same way
10:10 that the locals will so if you hear that
10:13 word authentic being thrown around a lot
10:15 tonight that's what we really mean by
10:16 that where it's something that serves
10:18 the local community first also when we
10:21 talked about vitality there were other
10:23 images that came up of being walkable
10:25 that we have transit that there's more
10:28 housing than what we have now that
10:30 there's parking that it's safe that it's
10:33 well lit all these kind of images of
10:35 what that looks like
10:37 but with that focus that it's still
10:39 functional and well designed so what all
10:43 of these things kind of distilled down
10:44 to these are a lot of images and what
10:47 all of these things distill down to for
10:48 the task force was that that vitality
10:52 really for vitality sake doesn't doesn't
10:55 mean much but what it really means is
10:57 that it's it's facilitating interactions
10:59 among neighbors and that if that that's
11:03 our guidepost for this process so any
11:05 recommendations that they come up with
11:07 any discussions that we have we say how
11:09 is this facilitating these interactions
11:11 how are how are these recommendations
11:13 helping us and keep that that town feel
11:16 that we are having these interactions
11:19 and that's what really brings vibrancy
11:22 and vitality to our town so throughout
11:27 our discussions we've had some emerging
11:29 things and so I'd like to present some
11:32 of those findings and I think along the
11:34 tour and the walk we will probably get
11:37 into those a little bit more
11:38 specifically but keeping it a little
11:40 more higher level we found that first
11:44 design that the existing design of much
11:47 of our CBD can actually be a barrier to
11:50 facilitating those interactions so for
11:53 example right now the sidewalk in some
11:55 places is six feet wide which doesn't
11:59 allow for street furniture or places for
12:02 people to linger it instead Usher's
12:05 people on through giving them no other
12:07 options than to move along and go along
12:09 their way so which is really sending the
12:12 wrong message our downtown one of the
12:15 findings of the task force is that our
12:17 downtown is one where people really run
12:19 their errands they drop off their kids
12:21 for music lessons they go pick up what
12:23 they need from fishers meets and then
12:26 they're on their way so the space isn't
12:28 really designed in many parts of our CBD
12:31 at least the space really isn't designed
12:33 to compel them to stay and linger and
12:35 enjoy those interactions with their
12:37 neighbors it doesn't send them the
12:40 message that there's a reason to do that
12:41 and while that's functional to do your
12:44 errands it doesn't fill other needs for
12:47 social interaction
12:49 similarly another thing that we found is
12:52 underutilized spaces and some of these
12:54 spaces are places where we could have
12:56 those social needs that are met where
13:00 people could linger and so you see this
13:01 picture of pedestrian park for example
13:04 we're a growing community and such a
13:07 small downtown and yet there are these
13:10 spaces that could be adding to the
13:12 vibrancy and vitality but are just kind
13:15 of sitting there so we'll be visiting to
13:18 a few spaces tonight that are currently
13:20 or the task force finds that are
13:22 currently under utilized which are
13:24 pedestrian park and the historic shell
13:26 station but along the tour I bet you can
13:30 probably spot a few more areas that are
13:32 tucked away here and there that could
13:34 probably doing more to add to the
13:36 vibrancy of the downtown so as you're
13:39 walking around tonight I want you to
13:42 look around and think of the messages
13:43 that the current design and aesthetics
13:45 are sending and ultimately how that
13:47 affects the neighbors and how they
13:50 interact within that space task force
13:53 members feel free to talk with Council
13:56 and others about what we have been
13:58 discussing in our meetings and how a few
14:01 changes could affect how we use this
14:03 space and what you feel the benefits the
14:06 community would be if those changes are
14:07 made because I think that's what tonight
14:10 is really all about before we go on our
14:12 walk are there any questions i do Andrea
14:16 well could you just just remind us the
14:20 CBD the cultural business district what
14:26 just remind us you know well you know
14:29 how that exists what Foreman exists what
14:31 you know when when I see the word
14:33 district and people see the word
14:34 district that usually has some meaning
14:36 to it and I know that there are certain
14:38 design standards and the like but could
14:39 you just summarize the district and and
14:42 and how what it's supposed to achieve
14:45 and and how we should keep that in
14:48 context as we as we go through this
14:50 evening sure sure so um most other
14:54 cities have what they call a commercial
14:56 business district is the croisé
14:57 distinctive and that we've established a
14:59 cultural business district
15:01 and that's because we have a great
15:04 concentration of Arts and other cultural
15:07 amenities within our downtown area so
15:10 obviously that's the village theater
15:12 that's first stage but we also have a
15:14 lot of other historical amenities as
15:16 well and so and knowing that we have a
15:20 historical downtown and wanting to
15:21 celebrate that as well as that getting
15:25 to what your question is yes so it's
15:29 really just a description of an area I
15:31 mean there's you know I I know that we
15:33 have a sub area I think I might do one
15:37 at the end of this looking at Keith's
15:38 map so um so here's the here's one of
15:42 our zoning maps the CBD is in the dark
15:45 red so you can see at the top it's
15:47 defined in Northwest Holly Street that
15:50 would be to the north and then the south
15:53 border would be southeast which bush
15:55 street and then there's some spots along
15:58 sons that way so it's defined
16:01 geographically and it's kind of a
16:03 geographic zone so in a way it's it's
16:06 similar to the CIP and that the CIP has
16:08 the core zone which is kind of the most
16:10 active portion of the central issaquah
16:13 area and so within the old town area the
16:16 CBD zone is envisioned to be the most
16:20 active portion of this sub area and
16:23 there are special land use zoning or
16:25 other like building heights and
16:29 character development standards that are
16:32 attributable to that zone okay thank you
16:37 Mary Lou I'm a question about private
16:40 and public spaces so I assume one of our
16:42 exercises tonight is that we're kind of
16:44 imagining or envisioning how to activate
16:47 some of the spaces what is currently
16:50 allowed for example for restaurants and
16:53 bars the space that they occupy now in
16:56 front of them is permitted by the city
17:00 or it's their space like I'm trying to
17:03 figure out when we walk through
17:04 pedestrian part how that might connect
17:06 to those private businesses that are
17:08 there yes that's a great question and
17:10 some of those conversations we can have
17:12 in context
17:13 because it might differ on where we are
17:15 but I'm going to give you a general
17:17 answer right so general answer is that
17:21 where their sidewalk that's typically
17:23 city right of way and that is currently
17:26 governed by a special use permit so if
17:29 there is enough space that then
17:32 businesses could put out outdoor seating
17:35 and so you see some of this in front of
17:37 las margaritas for example or some of
17:39 the other businesses have some outdoor
17:41 seating that's there along the sidewalk
17:42 and they have to apply for special use
17:45 permit to do that every year they also
17:47 would have to comply with special
17:49 regulations to make sure there's enough
17:50 room for 88 clearance and things like
17:52 that so so I think there might be we've
17:58 been taking a look at that with the task
18:00 force I'm thinking how can we make it
18:01 easier for private businesses to take
18:05 advantage of some of that space and
18:07 maybe bring more activity to that space
18:10 and invest into it a little bit so I
18:12 think we can talk about that more within
18:14 the context of our walking tour hey
18:16 thanks hmm so we'll have an opportunity
18:20 after the walking toward to me back here
18:25 to talk about what we saw in there may
18:27 be a number of follow-up questions or
18:29 things like that but it's such a
18:31 beautiful evening and there's a lot
18:33 going on in our city this evening that
18:35 we're going to to recess from the
18:39 council chambers go on our walking tour
18:41 and return and that part of the meeting
18:44 will be televised so we are now recessed
18:48 for the walking tour
19:08 we have a few more meetings left to go
19:11 and in those next meetings will be
19:14 forming recommendations that speak to
19:17 the themes that we've been talking about
19:19 this evening and will also be examining
19:22 partnerships among the community to look
19:26 at programming like we discussed and how
19:31 we can activate some of these spaces
19:32 downtown we also want to come up with a
19:36 really thoughtful list of
19:37 recommendations so we don't want to give
19:40 the mayor a laundry list of things 105
19:43 things that ways that we can enhance
19:46 downtown by talat we want them to be
19:48 well thought out we want them to be
19:50 vetted we want them to also identify
19:53 who's responsible for these things it's
19:56 because it's a list of things the
19:57 community can do it's not just what the
19:59 city can do so we want to be able to
20:01 identify those partners and get some
20:03 partners on board we also want to have
20:06 an idea of what these costs are we want
20:08 to be realistic and grounded in these
20:10 recommendations so I think we still have
20:12 some more process to go through before
20:14 we come back to you and our deadline is
20:18 the end of the year and I think we're on
20:21 board on track and meeting that deadline
20:23 we're doing pretty well so those are the
20:26 basic next steps and wondering you know
20:28 what's next I think we still have a few
20:30 more things to do in a few more meetings
20:32 to have any questions about the task
20:37 force and next steps before we move on
20:39 to synthesizing thoughts from our walk
20:41 about Mary Lou I'm just one thing Andrew
20:48 that I was talking with keith watts
20:49 about when we were heroes Keith maybe
20:51 can't remember we were walking was that
20:54 we didn't talk a lot about sunset today
20:57 and one of the council members who
20:58 sponsored the school and it isn't here
21:00 this evening is 92 Milligan and one of
21:03 her areas of interest was to understand
21:06 how sunset would be integrated into it
21:09 so not asking for an answer tonight but
21:10 just making sure when you come back that
21:14 you know there's that that's discussed
21:17 as much as you have discussed it with
21:19 your group because that was very
21:20 important to her
21:21 yes yes thank you I think initially at
21:26 the beginning of this year when we put
21:29 the focus on the CBD at that time the
21:33 conversations about sunset and her her
21:37 wishes for that goal were more absorbed
21:41 into the master Mobility plan but as
21:43 those changes have occurred I I think
21:46 what we're looking at is there will be
21:49 some recommendations for perhaps in old
21:52 town plan re looking at the old town
21:54 plan which incorporates sunset so I
21:57 think we can probably address some of
21:58 her concerns through that and I'm trying
22:05 to recall whether they're at the
22:10 transportation survey that we recently
22:13 completed or getting the final report on
22:19 did that include a project on sunset yes
22:24 thank you other questions before we let
22:31 Andrea sit down okay well thank you very
22:37 very much we are back from our art or it
22:41 was exciting to be joined by the task
22:45 force and to hear some of the good work
22:47 that they are doing and the projects
22:51 that they are considering as they refine
22:56 their recommendations of their report
23:00 submitted to to the mayor discussion
23:07 observations or comments as a result of
23:10 our tour and we'll start with all thank
23:14 you then thank you for the members of
23:16 the task force and staff support very
23:19 pleased with what we were able to
23:21 achieve this evening I had a couple
23:22 comments on some of the Andrea some of
23:25 your opening comments I've wondered for
23:30 a long time what we meant by vitality
23:33 and what what did that really means I
23:35 was pleased to see that you tackled that
23:38 and two words that stood out authentic I
23:41 think that was the first word that you
23:43 used was authentic and I that resonates
23:46 with me very much i like that but then
23:48 the second mention and I'm looking at my
23:51 notes here is that it for it to be vital
23:57 to have vitality the that the goal it
24:01 should facilitate interactions among
24:03 neighbors I think I captured that so so
24:05 I like that sounds like something i
24:06 would write but you know that that
24:08 facilitates interactions and and when we
24:12 were so I like that a lot its what binds
24:15 people together right its what binds
24:16 community members together there's a
24:18 place to gather of common interest where
24:20 it's safe and they enjoy being there I
24:23 really could feel a lot of that
24:25 possibility more when we were in
24:27 pedestrian park the comments so just
24:30 this is just you know high level right
24:31 the comments I heard about creating you
24:35 know maybe tables or places where people
24:37 from can gather I see people use the
24:41 shelter down at confluence park quite a
24:43 bit I have a garden in the pea patch
24:46 down there and there was always people
24:48 coming and going at least during the
24:50 summer so this idea that we have places
24:52 where people can say i'll meet you there
24:56 for a picnic for example i'm not sure
24:58 that would happen at confluence park but
24:59 that so that is a very attractive idea
25:02 to me and I want to echo what was said
25:06 there as well in Andrea and your opening
25:08 comments you talked about the Arts and
25:11 how we have this association this
25:13 cultural district has associated with
25:14 the Arts and I and I shared with with
25:17 some of you during the walk that in my
25:19 my I like to think about both the
25:21 Performing and visual arts and when we
25:24 were at pedestrian park as well there
25:26 was the mention i think tola may be
25:28 mentioned someone asked the question
25:30 what about the opportunity to create
25:32 more of a space where you know
25:34 performances can take place of what
25:36 performing arts and I would just add I
25:38 think Josh talked about some type of
25:41 installation and
25:43 to me to me to celebrate and to and to
25:48 create further attraction and continue
25:52 this momentum of facilitating
25:55 interactions if a pedestrian Park
25:58 destination also had reminders of the
26:02 Performing and visual arts as part of
26:05 its plan and because that is so so
26:08 central to the identity and the
26:11 attraction of downtown I mean I would
26:13 look for those kind of elements in in
26:14 some type of long-range plan thank you
26:20 other comments or discussion reactions
26:24 oh I'm just very excited about where we
26:31 are right now as a city I'll say my own
26:35 journey to arrive at issaquah the having
26:37 the downtown that we have was one of the
26:40 two factors why I moved here I lived in
26:42 a very pleasant near the top of all the
26:45 ratings in Minnesota a city that had no
26:49 downtown its downtown was the mall and
26:51 so they shot off the fireworks from near
26:53 the mall and so to have to have what we
26:57 have here was it was really deeply
26:59 meaningful for me and combine that with
27:01 the school system and that's why I'm
27:02 here and not some other place and I feel
27:05 that you know I'm sure that the
27:08 community has seen how many that list of
27:10 goals that were submitted for last year
27:13 was just so formidable there was so much
27:15 that related to downtown and I just feel
27:17 we have we have done a good job with the
27:19 central issaquah plan and it now just
27:22 feels like the time has arrived for us
27:24 to put the focus to downtown and so I
27:28 took old town to downtown here and I
27:33 think that tonight was it was a good
27:35 jumping-off point for that there was a
27:37 lot of things that I learned about the
27:41 forgive me the the gas station I forget
27:45 that we get the new of it but I had I
27:46 didn't know they used it for for
27:48 multiple purposes I didn't know they had
27:50 events there and I think what I heard
27:54 the most that I was most excited about
27:56 was the club or
27:57 in between the different organizations
27:59 between dia and the various
28:00 organizations around and I feel those
28:02 collaborations will yield a lot of
28:05 things that I'm hoping that we as a
28:07 council are well prepared to engage on
28:10 Thanks other comments right Josh thanks
28:15 um so first I just want to thank all the
28:17 folks who came tonight and joined us for
28:20 the walking tour tour still here for
28:22 this portion of the meeting I'm just
28:24 constantly in all of the commitment that
28:27 folks have to not just as a koala but
28:29 particularly the CBD and just really
28:32 really impressed and amazed by the
28:34 commitment and the enthusiasm that
28:36 surrounds the work that's being done on
28:38 old town and the vitality enhancements
28:41 that we've really been striving for over
28:43 the last several years so you know the
28:45 other day we took a drive down south on
28:48 esqui Hobart road and just drove around
28:50 for a while it's better to sit in the
28:52 air conditioning I suppose and as we
28:54 were coming back up on Front Street
28:56 entering into the city I actually took a
29:00 moment to look at downtown issaquah from
29:03 the perspective of someone who might be
29:05 coming into it for the first time or
29:07 coming up from the south and it was an
29:11 interesting exercise just to think about
29:13 that for a moment as you come up front
29:15 street and what are the first things
29:17 that you see and the first thing I
29:20 noticed is that the 25 mile an hour as
29:22 you get into town is a suggestion and
29:25 then you finally get up to sunset and
29:27 you see the the library and you see the
29:31 gas station and you see the businesses
29:33 beginning to proliferate on that corner
29:35 and it's a really welcoming entrance
29:39 into the city and you know if you looked
29:41 at that corner at front and sunset which
29:43 is has long been the heart of the city
29:45 you you almost would have no idea about
29:47 any other development that's going on in
29:50 the rest of town you know we're tall
29:52 buildings or you know intersection
29:54 issues or anything you just sort of
29:56 drive in and you look at it is as just a
29:58 historic part of the city and I think
30:01 it's it's really a credit to everyone
30:03 who's worked together to make it
30:05 continued to be vibrant and looked at
30:07 way there are still challenges I mean as
30:10 we walked along it was still apparent
30:12 that getting people to these great
30:14 locations is difficult a lot of it has
30:17 to do with the topography some of it has
30:20 to do with parking availability ingress
30:22 and egress and just making sure that
30:25 there's enough spots for people who want
30:27 to stop and partake in businesses and
30:30 partake in recreational opportunities
30:31 and you know a lot of folks use the
30:33 library parking garage because that's
30:36 the parking garage that's available and
30:38 closest to a lot of the CBD so it still
30:41 is a challenge when it comes to issues
30:43 like parking and that's something that I
30:46 think since I've been on the council has
30:48 still really not been resolved or move
30:51 forward and we did a parking study and
30:54 that seemed to suggest that there wasn't
30:56 a problem which conflicts with a lot of
30:58 anecdotal evidence I think you'd hear
31:00 from folks around the city but be that
31:02 as it may the other thing I would just
31:04 say is there's a real big emphasis on
31:06 art and I think rightfully so because it
31:09 is really the center of the city when it
31:11 comes to promoting the arts and you know
31:14 you look at all the art galleries and
31:16 artiste and just the the the confluence
31:19 that we have of the arts community in
31:21 the downtown core and the opportunities
31:24 that exist and you know there's a lot of
31:26 cities around the country that go even
31:29 in the details one step further you know
31:31 paint garbage cans paint the fire
31:33 hydrants paint the lamp posts you know
31:36 do things that really bring out the
31:37 vibrancy add color add lighting there's
31:40 other things you know little details
31:41 that can be done that's more than just
31:43 reconfiguring a space but actually
31:45 making it visually attractive for people
31:47 who come downtown and then the last
31:49 thing is and I talked with a few folks
31:51 about this but emphasizing the family
31:53 friendly nature of coming downtown that
31:56 you know even though we've got bars and
31:58 potential beer gardens and pubs still
32:02 making it family-friendly because we've
32:03 got a library on the corridor and we've
32:05 got children who come to this area with
32:07 their families and we've got a memorial
32:10 field over here where there's a lot of
32:11 kids activities and so you know just
32:13 finding ways that you can really
32:15 emphasize the family friendly nature and
32:17 it's great to have colorful tables and
32:20 sort of an adult
32:21 hip atmosphere you know where you can go
32:24 in the evening after you've had glass of
32:26 wine and dinner but also look at the
32:29 families that will come to downtown and
32:31 spend time walking through this area and
32:33 making sure that we do something to
32:36 promote interest for them as well and so
32:39 if there's ways that we can use art
32:41 installations active sculptures that
32:44 sort of thing or just vibrant colors
32:47 activities there's things that can be
32:49 done that were really emphasize that as
32:51 well and so that was one thing that
32:52 really stood out at me is taken to
32:55 account the overall population and not
32:58 just a subset in terms of future design
33:01 you other observations or comments Stacy
33:06 I want to echo the comments I'm that
33:08 I've heard so far about thanking the
33:10 task force for all the wonderful work
33:12 that you've done it's we had a really
33:19 great presentation about the
33:21 possibilities over at pedestrian park
33:22 and the simplicity of the ideas stand
33:27 out but to get to that point takes a lot
33:31 of a lot of thought and a lot of
33:34 consideration about what could happen
33:36 and what what we might want to use that
33:38 space for and I thought it was tomorrow
33:43 what Josh mentioned the colorfulness of
33:46 it the you know the bistro sets the
33:48 lights all of those things are sound
33:51 very simple but the way that they might
33:55 be able to transform the space is just
33:57 super super exciting I as I mentioned a
34:01 couple people have were on the walk I
34:02 feel like I don't get out much sometimes
34:04 and so maybe one of these tuesdays we
34:08 can have a tour of concerts on the green
34:10 so that we can enjoy that but but but um
34:16 it really was an opportunity for us to
34:20 interact with a task force which was
34:22 planned and I'm glad it was planned it
34:24 was an opportunity to meet with folks
34:27 who have really done a lot of work
34:28 downtown and
34:29 really invested a lot of time downtown
34:31 and can give us a very thoughtful
34:34 feedback about what we could do down
34:37 there and so I'm deeply grateful for all
34:39 of the time that you've put in anyone
34:46 else well again my thanks to the task
34:51 force for being our guides and our
34:56 leaders this evening and for the work
34:59 that you are involved in I look forward
35:02 to the completed recommendations this
35:05 has been very enjoyable it's fun walking
35:08 around our city in the evening because
35:12 you do see a lot of activity and a good
35:15 cross-section I talked to someone who
35:19 was returning from the concerts on the
35:22 green as we were returning to the
35:24 council chamber and she was a lady with
35:27 a walker and she said Neil Diamond was
35:32 one of my favorite singers along with
35:36 above when I was very very young so we
35:39 indeed are appealing to a broad
35:41 cross-section of our community and with
35:45 that we are adjourned this evening
35:51 you

Attendance

Council / Members (7)
Eileen Barber
Stacy Goodman
Tola Marts
Mary Lou Pauly
Joshua Schaer
Paul Winterstein
David Fujimoto, Office of Sustainability Director
Excused
Nina Milligan