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City Council Services, Safety & Parks Committee
Wednesday, June 22, 2022
6:30 PM · 2h 49m · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
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Minutes
3. AGENDA ITEMS
3a
Board & Commission Consolidation
ID 1088
30 min · Monica Negrila, Human Services Manager Hannah Roberts, Human Services Coordinator · packet pp.5–29
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Staff report:
Proceed to dissolve the Cable TV Commission in 2022 and recommend the Cemetery Board consider a potential sunset or consolidation in 2022, returning with a
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there we go
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olin are we ready to start the meeting
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well we are live all right
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welcome everyone i council member tola
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martz called the june 22
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2022 city council services safety and
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parks committee to order
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the first services safety and parks
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committee meeting
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since we have reconstituted
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subcommittees so it's very exciting
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council member demichelle
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will be participating remotely this is
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council member ray to my right
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a couple of uh
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points about the meeting
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uh public comment there are multiple
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public comment opportunities at
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tonight's meeting
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there's going to be a general public
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comment opportunity at the beginning of
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the meeting or
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you can make comments uh for each of the
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three topics that we have this evening
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you can make comments after the
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presentation and council question and
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answer period
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but before we deliberate on those issues
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in each of these situations i'm going to
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offer
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folks up to five minutes to make their
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comments
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both for the comments at the beginning
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and during individual issues
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members of the public may address
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council
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at this time in person or virtually
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those who signed up in advance to make
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comments will be called on first if you
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are joining us virtually and would like
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to make comments please raise your
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you're on the phone press star 3 if
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you've joined by computer or smartphone
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look for a hand icon this varies by
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closing this portion of the meeting
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i will wait for a moment to see if
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anyone wishes to raise their hand
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clerk has anyone signed up to speak or
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indicated a desire to speak this evening
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yes council member
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thank you citizen comments are an
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important part of the public process we
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take them seriously and factor them into
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the decisions we make
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please direct comments to the whole
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council and not individuals while this
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is not a question and answer session we
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will contact you to follow up if needed
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in relationship to the city speak
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clearly and pause frequently limit
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comments to five minutes
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if you're attending virtually and do not
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respond after your name or phone number
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permitted
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clerks can you identify the first person
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who has signed up to speak
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yes council member marks the first
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person signed up to speak is kfunt
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and that's uh virtual
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no that's in the room oh
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okay if you want to come up to the
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lectern
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or not
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i believe k font is not in the room
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alright has anyone else signed up
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yes
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doug schlepp
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doug is referring to the next person on
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the list who's
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who's next
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we have no more people signed up on the
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sign-in sheet
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and we have a couple of virtual
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attendees
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uh before we go virtual doug did you
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want to speak to us or not are you going
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to speak at the
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individual
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you're going to wait till we get to the
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third topic okay thank you
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uh so virtually
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among our virtual attendees uh
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councilmember martz i do not see any
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virtual hands raised at this time
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we'll ask again
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now would be the time to indicate
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uh both here in the room
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uh and uh
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virtually if you wish to speak now and
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again this doesn't preclude you from
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speaking on the individual issues that
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we have three topics this evening
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closing it out still no no indication no
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virtual hands all right
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then we will move on to our advice
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first up this evening on our agenda is
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id 1088 boarding commission
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consolidation this is going to be
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presented by uh city clerk keyser
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hi chairmartz and committee members it's
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a pleasure to be here let me just share
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my screen
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give me just a minute here tim smith our
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media production specialist will also be
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presenting with me tonight in just a few
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moments
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thank you
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okay so i am here to talk to you about
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one of the city's 2022 work plan items
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which is to evaluate the effectiveness
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and portfolio of the city's boards and
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commissions
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tonight we have three questions to ask
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for the committee's recommendation on
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the first is regarding some action we
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are ready to take to sunset the cable tv
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commission
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the second is whether to
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pursue sort of an evaluation by the
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cemetery board of some possible
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opportunities for consolidation or a
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sunset or a change of scope to the
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cemetery board and our third question is
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just whether there are any other
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advisory boards that the committee
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thinks are worth looking into more
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closely in the year ahead
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so the city currently has 14 advisory
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boards covering a very wide range of
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topics they provide very valuable input
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and expertise to the city council and to
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the mayor
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when all of the boards and commission
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seats are filled
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it constitutes 130 volunteers in our
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community which i think is
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pretty amazing
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also
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staff we have a dedicated staff person
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for each of these 14 advisory boards one
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of their key responsibilities is to
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caretake support train
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and provide work plan items to these
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advisory boards
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so over the years
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there have been changes to the city's
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advisory boards that really reflect i
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think the
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sort of the development of the community
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and the issues in the community
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so this slide shows you some of the
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changes that have been made in the last
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six years so we've let go of some boards
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that have served their primary purpose
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and we've also created some new boards
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that cover some issues that are very
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important to our community like
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transportation equity and the
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environment
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so as part of of part of this change
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that's why we're here tonight just we've
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sort of looked at the portfolio of the
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city's current boards and commissions
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and identified one board that we think
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has served its primary purpose and
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another board that we think is worth
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revisiting in 2022
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with that i'm going to ask tim smith to
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come up and cover the next few slides
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evening council members tim smith media
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production specialist for the city of
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israel also the staff liaison for the
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cable tv commission
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so i'm going to start off with a little
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background for the cable tv commission
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starting in 1980 the city of israel
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formed the cable tv commission to
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negotiate and regulate cable tv
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franchises within with cable providers
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in issaquah
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this authority included cable tv
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franchise negotiations implementation
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technical review of cable systems the
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resolution of resident complaints by
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working with the cable tv companies
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through negotiation and imposing fines
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in 1991 the cable tv commission started
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the government access tv station we all
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know as ictv channel 21.
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they ran and operated that from 1991
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until 1999 when they hired a um
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an independent contractor to come in
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take over running it and upgrade the
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systems at that point
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in 1996 the telecommunication act
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was passed by the federal government
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this changed local regulatory authority
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to a certain extent um
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with it with the telecommunication act
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of 1996 the fcc federalized much of the
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local regulatory authority that
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municipalities once held over cable
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providers
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in 2001 the city hired a full-time cable
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operator to run its government access
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channel and that reported directly to
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the cable tv commission concerning
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channel operations content and franchise
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issues
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so to kind of review what the what their
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initial purview was so negotiating camp
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negotiating cable franchises and
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overseeing it on a day-to-day basis
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also technical reviews so they would
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meet with cable uh and they still do
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they would meet annually with all cable
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providers
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they would view they would get cable
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plants they would review the cable
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systems they could do a technical audit
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if it was required and then they would
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resolve residence complaints
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so over the years the role has changed
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for the cable tv commission
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and starting as i said previously the
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fcc regulations changed and it really
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reduced it down to mostly concerning
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with right-of-way issues and customer
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service levels
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secondly uh technology advances um have
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changed the need for cable over the
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years in 1980 if you lived in issaquah
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and you lived on squawk mountain you
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really needed cable
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and you really needed it on the co on
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the on the floor the top pocket if you
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made it really really important to have
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a strong regulatory board
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but as technology has advanced
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and people have cable cut
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and you can get media in different ways
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as where you were just stuck with your
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cable company back in the day now you
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have other options
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also increased staff support so
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city staff now operates ictv and handles
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all programming and media production
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decisions
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also the city staff handles all
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day-to-day cable
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customer complaints so previously a
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cable complaint would come in it would
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come to the staff liaison the liaison
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would con
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contact the cable tv commission and the
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commission would would uh decide a path
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of resolution now it comes into the
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staff and staff deals with it directly
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has a relationship with all cable
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providers has contacts there and gets
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resolution and then those resolutions
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are reported back to the cable tv
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commission unless it's a systemic issue
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that rises to a major level
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then it would go to the cable tv
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commission
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directly we haven't had a situation like
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that in over a decade
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and then
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last but certainly not least there's a
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decree pub decreased public interest in
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serving on the ctc
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so right now we have two members on the
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ctc
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we don't we can't even do a quorum the
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ctc cannot meet at the beginning of the
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ctc there was nine members seven regular
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two alternates
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as interest waned in 2015 we lowered
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that number to five and two and lowered
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the meanings from monthly to as needed
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so that brings me to the recommendation
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the final two ctc members
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after discussing this agree with agree
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with this is to adopt an ordinance
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sunsetting the ctc and delegating
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existing duties and responsibilities to
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staff the mayor and city council
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and i'm open to any questions
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council member ray
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you you have a quizzical look on your
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face
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i do and i have some questions uh thanks
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tim that was really interesting
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i think you touched on this but what is
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the view view of the two members that we
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have on the
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commission today of the future the
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commission do they see a role do they
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want to evolve the role is there
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somewhere to grow it something to do
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with it what's their take on it
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currently their their uh opinion is that
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it's time to sunset the commission there
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was a time uh back in 2014 2015 the
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commission created a white paper of and
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one of the options was to expand the
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board into a technology board and lower
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their role
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uh lower the cable role and um and then
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the other option was to decrease and
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that or or eliminate this was back in
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2015 and so it landed on the decrease so
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i think that time has passed
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um especially because of the lack of the
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interest in the board currently
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um just uh two follow-up questions um
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when's the last time the board met
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august 6th of 2020
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okay and um
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have there been any
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need for
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the board to deal with customer service
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or complaint issues um in the last
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couple years no i mean the main issue
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that we had during kovid was internet
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and the cable tv commission just does
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not regulate the internet we cannot
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regulate the internet now we reached out
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directly to comcast during that time and
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um we worked with them city staff worked
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with them and they were as responsive
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they were fairly responsive it was a
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long haul i don't know if you remember
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but it was it was tough we had some
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areas in squawk and montro that had a
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really hard time
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but we worked with comcast and and uh
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the cable providers and got and got it
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fixed but the cable tv commission was
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not involved in that process at all
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right so you just said something
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interesting um so it's not cable per se
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it's cable television it's cable
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television okay great yeah thank you
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councilmember michelle did you have any
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questions before we move to the next
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facet of this presentation
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i i do have a question if that's okay
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can you hear me all right yep
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okay uh tim last night uh at last
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night's council meeting we we did have
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uh some testimony
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and uh which i appreciated very much but
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um the
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um
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commentator uh
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said that there are places around the
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country that are losing their cable tv
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stations
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um and that we needed to keep an eye on
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that so my question for you is has there
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been any indication at all that
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in the area or
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you know in your in your knowledge
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of
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communities losing their cable tv
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stations
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not that i know of all the local
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cities all still have their cable
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channels
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they haven't removed them and um and and
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to be honest we are the only city in our
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area that has a cable tv commission that
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i have knowledge of
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but yes but there is no threat of losing
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channels that i've noticed locally at
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all
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uh thank you very much
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did you have a follow-on question
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uh no i did not thank you and i think
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city administrator would like to add a
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comment
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uh yes thank you committee chair members
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of the committee a little bit more
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information from my experience
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what some communities are finding is
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that their local government access
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channels currently are on good channels
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they are low in the spectrum um and what
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some cable providers are doing is you
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move from 21 to 2021 um and so there
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have been communities that have been
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concerned that yes the channel continues
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to exist but it's extraordinarily hard
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to find
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so
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i would think that
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again as tim has said the technology has
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kind of changed i think it's less of an
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issue but certainly a few years ago
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communities were losing their position
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and again many communities also uh use
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the cable company at one point for
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studio
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facilities for technical support all
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that has gone away throughout the
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country so again as tim has mentioned
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we're in i think a very good spot to
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continue video programming and i think
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the administration's feeling is that
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with with dedicated staff good equipment
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part-time staff as needed uh for the
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production of video because certainly
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not only do we do the meetings we do
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things with social media i think that's
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all very right and appropriate but when
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there are customer complaints uh staff
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has those uh
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connections that really are separate and
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apart from the commission so that's why
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we're here this evening recommending
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that we sunset the commission
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thank you state administrator bob quits
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uh so there are three parts to this id
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and we're going to continue on with the
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presentation and questions and again we
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will take public comment uh when we
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transition from presentations and q a
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into
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deliberation thank you for your time
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and i just have a few more quick slides
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here that i'll move through
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um so as i mentioned the other board
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that uh we would like to take a look at
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in the coming months is the cemetery
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board
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we have not done the the thorough
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background and research that tim just
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shared with you on the cable tv
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commission but we do feel that because
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of our robust park board and our robust
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parks department that it's worth
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evaluating whether the cemetery board
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could somehow be consolidated
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i think at a minimum it's a healthy
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thing to look at the scope of any board
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it looks as if the cemetery board scope
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was last revised in
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1983
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so what we are proposing is that the
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cemetery board be tasked with looking
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into
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their role more specifically
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sort of reviewing their current scope to
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see if it's actually what they are doing
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in practice and whether having a
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dedicated cemetery board is indeed still
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critical
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this board is also having some
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recruitment challenges that it has over
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time and is currently
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so again that is our recommendation we
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would be returning
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let me
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move to the next slide here we're
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proposing that the cemetery board take
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the rest of 2022 to
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sort of
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carry out some some research and
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evaluation provide a recommendation to
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the mayor and we would be bringing that
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recommendation to this committee in
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early 2023 prior to the annual
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recruitment
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of the boards and commissions
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and then the third part of our question
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to you tonight was just whether there
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were other areas that the committee felt
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uh the administration should be taking a
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closer look at this is just um just a
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visual display of our other boards and
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commissions
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that are currently serving
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thank you and i'll ask if any of my
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fellow council members have questions at
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this point
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you council member ray
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thanks um
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chair martz um
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what does the cemetery board do
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so the the cemetery board i probably
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won't hit every point here but the
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cemetery board is tasked with looking at
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potential expansion of the cemetery
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which could include acquiring land
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it is also tasked with looking at use of
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the existing land that the cemetery
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occupies so sort of maximizing or
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enhancing
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what's there currently they
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review use of the cemetery fund dollars
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they provide
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management
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guidelines
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of the cemetery so uh certain
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requirements for the location uh or not
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the location but
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the uh
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what's the word i want to use it's not
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the landscaping the maintenance and care
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of the area around the grave so they
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have a document that they review and
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approve i mean is filed with the city
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clerk's office so those are some of
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their key responsibilities jeff is also
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here if i've wildly missed something but
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i think that's a decent summation
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super thank you
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councilmember g michelle do you have any
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questions
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no questions chairman
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i have a question
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in listing off the roles and
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responsibilities of the cemetery board
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the public may not know but we have
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we have a partnership program with a
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local funeral home
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around low-cost uh access to the
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cemetery and this was something that i
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personally
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experienced in minnesota when my mother
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passed away
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oh gosh wow uh
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14 years ago now
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and it can be extraordinarily expensive
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and so we have we have this partnership
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does the cemetery is the cemetery board
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involved in managing that partnership
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well i will mention to you as you just
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touched on that they are responsible to
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review the fees and i am familiar with
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the burial assistance program i believe
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that action involved tasking the city to
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work with flintoffs directly um to
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to develop and manage that program so it
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doesn't sound like they are directly
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involved
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it's being run through the parks
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department
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hey good evening chair and other members
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jeff watling parks and community
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services director tish is correct the
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the burial assistance program is
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overseeing directly from the parks
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department and flintoffs through our
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management agreement that council
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adopted a couple years ago
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thank you that's very helpful
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so
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uh there not being any other questions
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before we move to deliberation on this
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id and what we want to recommend back to
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the full council
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i would like to offer an opportunity if
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any members of the public either
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physically present with us right now or
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online would like to speak to this issue
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before we deliberate now would be the
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time to come to the lectern or indicate
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so online
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clerk do we have any indication of
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anyone wishing to speak to this issue
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chair marks we don't have anybody online
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that has indicated a desire to speak on
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this topic
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all right well uh let's start with
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question one
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should we
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recommend that the council dissolve the
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cable tv
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commission council member right no all
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alpine first um i think that um the
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cable commission played a vital role in
23:15
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the early days of cable television and
23:17
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we all remember those days when you had
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no reception in the valley
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i think that
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it's been overtaken by events um it
23:26
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seems like all of the functions and
23:28
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features that it was intended to perform
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are performed quite admirably by city
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staff
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and i think the biggest thing um
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is would we lose our channel and i don't
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see how having a commission has any
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bearing on whether or not we would uh
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have a channel we still have an
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opportunity to influence our cable
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companies
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even without a citizen commission so um
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i i see no reason to
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retain it
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at this time
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councilmember jim michelle
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uh i concur with uh councilmember ray
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and
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he said that very very well i think
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the telling point for me
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is the fact that we can't recruit anyone
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to be on it and
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um
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that always says to me that
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a commission or board's work is done
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and the two members of the current
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commission uh apparently agree with that
24:24
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i also want to thank staff i thought it
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was uh
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the
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conversation points were laid out very
24:32
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very clearly and it was a good a good
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piece of work uh to explain what was
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going on so
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i absolutely concur that we should
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sunset that
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commission
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thank you and all plus one the the uh q
24:47
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a the attached q a on the functions of
24:51
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the cable commission and how those
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functions would be managed by the city
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was extremely helpful
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um i i support this as well it's a
24:58
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little frustrating for me because
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the cable commission did a great job on
25:03
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the on the task that they were assigned
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40 years ago
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in the meantime we have a different
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problem that they can't really help us
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on which is data equity and the fact
25:12
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that some parts of our city have
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you know low cost extremely high
25:17
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throughput data and other parts of our
25:19
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city struggle
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to get good data either
25:23
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either terrestrially or
25:25
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wireless but unfortunately that's beyond
25:27
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the purview of this body uh i mean of
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the cable commission but you know i for
25:33
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one would like to
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just mention
25:36
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to the administration that i would like
25:37
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it i would love at some point if we
25:38
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could
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have a conversation around data equity
25:42
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and how to make sure that the whole city
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enjoys the kind of uh
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data access that the highlands have and
25:49
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i i think talos says
25:51
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i'm getting a i'm getting a maybe but
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like like many things i i covet the
25:56
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highlands and one of the ways that i
25:57
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covet the highlands living over on
25:58
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squawk is their data access so just as a
26:01
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thought for the future
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um
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uh city administrator bob putz yes thank
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you chair uh march just to remind the
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committee that the council did fund uh a
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some additional work on that very
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subject in this your current year budget
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and so we are thank you for that we have
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gone out for an rfp uh there are firms
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that help cities evaluate their uh
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connectivity uh internet connectivity in
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various neighborhoods and so i uh autumn
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i don't know if you know the latest on
26:31
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that
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but i believe the rfp's out i don't
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believe we have awarded it yet
26:36
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so that will include a survey of all
26:38
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residents a technical survey of the
26:40
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infrastructure available and then
26:42
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recommendations back to the city so that
26:43
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was funded in the current year budget
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and we hoped i think to come back to the
26:47
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council probably in the fall
26:48
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with additional information fall
26:51
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late late in the year
26:53
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but we're moving forward with that at
26:54
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the council's direction thank you so
26:56
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much and i apologize for having
26:57
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forgotten that we
26:58
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had done that
26:59
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uh okay so it sounds like three thumbs
27:02
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up uh for supporting the
27:03
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administration's recommendation
27:05
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uh question two i can't read it it's so
27:08
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small on the screen
27:11
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cemetery yes cemetery board right
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um
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let's start with council member g
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michelle to mix it up
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oh i'm sorry wait
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uh did we oh no we already took sorry i
27:23
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already took public comment i'm just i
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just want to make sure yeah nobody had
27:26
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commented on any of these three sorry uh
27:29
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council member to michelle
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thank you chairman um
27:33
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so with regard to the cemetery board i
27:37
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support the idea of asking the board to
27:39
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review and offer a suggested path
27:42
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forward
27:43
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which might include sunsetting i i need
27:46
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to say that when i was first elected to
27:47
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the council i had a goal of visiting
27:50
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every board in commission during my
27:52
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first year in office and it turned out i
27:54
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didn't meet that goal because of covid
27:56
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but one of the boards i did get to visit
27:58
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was the cemetery board
28:00
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i was really impressed by the amount of
28:03
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knowledge and caring expressed by the
28:05
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members at that time
28:08
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we we remember that the hillside
28:10
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cemetery contains a lot of our
28:12
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community's history
28:14
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everybody on the board at that
28:15
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particular time had a family or a
28:18
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historic connection to the cemetery
28:21
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uh i just felt like there was
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you know a very very caring uh presence
28:26
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in that in that board
28:28
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and also it's uh it's
28:30
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sad to think that it started in 1915
28:34
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and here we are in 2021 thinking about
28:37
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uh sun setting it but
28:39
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um
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i think it would be a really good
28:42
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discussion for the cemetery board
28:43
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members to have i'm wondering if we
28:45
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could possibly do something that's a
28:47
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little less than a commission but
28:49
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possibly
28:51
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a little bit more involved with
28:54
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volunteer involvement or
28:56
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just recognizing the historic importance
29:00
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of that cemetery but i think that's a
29:02
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discussion that the cemetery board
29:04
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members could have
29:05
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and uh come back to us with a productive
29:08
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suggestion
29:09
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um
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and uh yeah this one this one was a
29:13
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little bit more of a heart tug
29:15
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uh in terms of discussing ending it so i
29:18
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look forward to hearing the results of
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that discussion thank you
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thank you councilmember ray
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thanks um i think the cemetery um is one
29:30
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of the really
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um unique things about issaquah that we
29:33
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as a city have this
29:35
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wonderful cemetery and i think it is
29:37
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what it is because the cemetery board
29:39
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over the years has nurtured it and
29:40
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guided it and i remember a couple years
29:42
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ago when we were looking at rate
29:43
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increases and the thoughtful
29:45
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thoughtful thinking
29:47
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that the cemetery board did to
29:49
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put together a strategy for moving
29:51
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forward with
29:53
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rates was was very helpful
29:55
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i think there's a role to be played i
29:57
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don't know that maybe we need a cemetery
29:59
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board
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but we definitely need
30:03
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citizen direction and involvement
30:06
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in guiding that and so my thinking is
30:08
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the parks board would probably
30:10
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um if we were to um dissolve the
30:13
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cemetery board the parks board
30:16
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could pick up
30:17
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that role because i think it's vital i
30:19
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think it's important and we're very
30:21
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lucky to have a municipal cemetery here
30:22
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in in in this town and i um it's it's
30:25
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weird um but i really love cemeteries i
30:28
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think they're amazing places and my only
30:30
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disappointment is i after i was off
30:32
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council i was kind of hoping for an
30:33
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appointment to the cemetery board so i'm
30:36
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a little bit
30:37
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clumped if it goes away between then and
30:39
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now but um i think asking them how to
30:41
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move it forward and then asking them if
30:44
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there's a way to integrate it with the
30:46
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park sport would be very helpful
30:49
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yeah i mean i think this is what you're
30:51
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hearing from all three of us is the
30:54
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uh recognition of the importance of our
30:56
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cemetery and
30:57
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the request that as the as the cemetery
31:00
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board looks at its options that we see
31:03
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about how to make sure that that
31:05
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unique special character of our cemetery
31:08
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is continuing to be maintained i love
31:10
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our cemetery i have a good friend who's
31:12
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buried there um i sort of think i hope
31:15
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to be buried there myself at some point
31:17
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um it's just it's it's wonderful and
31:20
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that i love that we have our ongoing
31:22
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program for uh
31:24
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folks who need help
31:25
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so that you know at the end of life
31:27
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families aren't horribly burdened um
31:30
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and so uh i'm confident that the
31:33
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cemetery board will take that into
31:35
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account as they look at their options
31:37
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going forward so it sounds like three
31:39
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thumbs up on that recommendation
31:42
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uh and then evaluating potential sunset
31:45
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or consolidation of any other existing
31:47
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boards or commissions councilmember ray
31:50
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i i looked at the list i didn't see
31:52
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anything else that like leaped off the
31:53
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page when i did look at the website it
31:55
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still has the recovery task force as a
31:58
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thing um i don't know if that's a border
32:00
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commission it wasn't on your list so i
32:02
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don't know if it still has a mission and
32:03
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a role but i you know think that's time
32:06
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to start looking at that and i think
32:07
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maybe we're through recovery um but
32:09
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beyond that um i i think the 12 that you
32:11
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presented still perform a vital role
32:15
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council member g michelle
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um thank you
32:20
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chair martz um
32:22
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i did have some
32:24
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when i looked at the list
32:26
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i'm looking thinking about the future of
32:28
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the sister cities commission
32:30
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and i noticed that that was mentioned as
32:32
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a possible
32:34
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commission that might we might want to
32:36
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review
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um
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i was a delegate to sunderl norway back
32:42
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in 1992 when we established the sister
32:45
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city relationship and the commission at
32:48
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that time uh was very active and
32:51
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um and of course then we
32:54
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had the uh addition of a moroccan
32:58
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relationship and that was very active
33:00
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but it seems like it's been a long time
33:03
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since we've had any official activities
33:06
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between either of our two sister cities
33:09
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and any outreach to other possible
33:14
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relationships now
33:16
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last night's council meeting was kind of
33:18
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eye-opening i thought it was wonderful
33:20
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that we had an international exchange
33:22
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with representatives from japan
33:25
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and so
33:26
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possibly there is a future there but
33:28
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again i think it's worth a discussion
33:31
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as to whether the current configuration
33:35
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is really
33:36
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what we want to go forward with and
33:39
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i'm not even clear about whether uh the
33:42
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sister cities that we have if we still
33:44
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have relationships with with anyone in
33:46
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those cities so
33:48
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um i think this is absolutely overdue
33:51
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for a discussion thank you
33:56
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yeah i mean i
33:57
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i would i would rather see the sister
33:59
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city commission re-energized rather than
34:02
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you know dismantled but i mean i think
34:04
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there's probably a question on how they
34:07
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i mean i'd be interested to know how
34:08
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they feel about how things are
34:10
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proceeding i think there's been more
34:12
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with chef xiao in morocco in the last 10
34:15
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15 years than there have been with the
34:16
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other sister cities
34:19
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but but even that has there hasn't been
34:21
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much in in the last decade i think there
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may have been some private uh groups
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that did some work with chefchaouen but
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anyhow um so i guess i'm i'm with that
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as well i i would be entrusted to ask
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the sister city commission
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if they felt that there was a potential
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for a different direction for them to
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take i guess would be mine and i see
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heads
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acknowledging from the other council
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members on the committee so clerk geezer
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do you have the information you wanted
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from us on this item
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yes i certainly do and we will be
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planning to bring the cable tv ordinance
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to the full city council at the july
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18th council meeting thank you so much
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thank you for for the presentation and
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and all the information with that we're
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going to move to id 1169 human services
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strategic plan grants program and
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emergency housing options monica
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negrilla with human services is going to
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be speaking with us
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as well as
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others
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mr chair before we move on to the next
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item
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tim smith is in the audience and
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tim doesn't come to council meetings at
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least doesn't come as a participant very
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often uh and i really want to just take
35:34
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a moment to thank him for his leadership
35:36
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uh certainly through everything we've
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done with the pandemic and then the move
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back into this room um
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you know we as we all know had a sort of
35:45
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a turn on a very quick dime to continue
35:48
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to produce council meetings uh through
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his leadership and the work with our it
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staff we made that a transition pretty
35:55
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seamlessly uh when we moved back into
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this room
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over the last few months you know he
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helped us be very strategic
36:03
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really understanding that this is a
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television studio as much as it is a
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community meeting room and i think
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you've noticed although i don't know
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that we've ever talked about it
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the lights
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in the room have been upgraded a little
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bit we've cleaned things up so that
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the whole general appearance looks
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better he's also worked very closely
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with the court because of course the day
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job for this room is of the court
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and they have been a hybrid throughout
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and are one of the few
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municipal courts in the state of
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washington to have done that all really
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with tim's leadership so before we move
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on to the next item mr chair members of
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the committee i just wanted to take an
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opportunity since he's here uh not
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running around connecting cables and
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making sure everything's working
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properly here on the more of the policy
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side of what he does and certainly uh
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thanks go to him for the work with
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comcast over the pandemic and the issues
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there
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he's cultivated the relationships we
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need as a community um you know that all
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was done uh based on this kind of pokken
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uh they had no contractual obligation
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nothing we could hold over them other
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than saying we had residents who needed
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better service and tim help makes that
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all happen so thank you for letting me
37:14
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just spend a moment to recognize him
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before he runs off with the rest of his
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evening
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[Applause]
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thank you he's also one of the genuinely
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nicest people that i know i don't recall
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ever seeing tim in a bad mood and i've
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been working with him for many many many
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years
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ms nigrila
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thank you good evening council members
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and um i have an internal joke with him
37:43
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i always ask him before meetings to make
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us look smart and pretty so i always
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appreciate that
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good evening thank you so much for
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having us i'm monica negrilla human
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services manager here at the city
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we bring a few human services items for
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you tonight for discussion
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and we have a few guests with us
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from the king county regional
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homelessness authority kcrha
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we have online alexis mercedes rink
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she's a sub regional planning manager
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and then we also have mallory evan
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she's the east king county sub-regional
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planning manager
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in addition we have human services staff
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here in the room and online
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we have a couple of human services
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commissioners and as always our fearless
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leader jeff watling parks and community
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services director so we have a nice big
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crowd tonight we appreciate that
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so um beginning with the
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two of the items that we would like your
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feedback on tonight
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one is um
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a returning item to you tonight i
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apologize that i'm trying to move with
38:51
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my uh slides
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so one is a returning item to you um
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following your recommendation from the
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council study session in april
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discussing the human services grants
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funding allocations and then second we
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are introducing a new item for you
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tonight and we are proposing a pilot for
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an emergency housing program
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and we would love to explore that with
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you
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and so you might ask why are we bringing
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these two items together um we really
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believe that um they both fall under the
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broader framework of human services
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initiatives and so really it seemed
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disingenuous for us not to bring them
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together um so um with that we would
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like to start with the human services
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grants funding allocations with your
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permission we can stop at any point for
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questions then we'll move to the second
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one and hopefully deliberations at the
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end if that's okay with you chair mart
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sounds great okay thank you so much
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so while there are multiple variables
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and options um we have a few more
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specific questions for you tonight
39:56
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regarding the human services grants our
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main question is are you supportive of
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having a formula for the human services
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grants funding allocations
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for the pilot emergency housing program
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again just simply is this committee
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supportive of piloting this program
40:12
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where we can go and further explore come
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back to you with additional information
40:17
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or would you like to propose something
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different would you like to us to do
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some more research do something
40:22
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different
40:23
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or lastly
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what type of information should we bring
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back to you
40:28
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especially when discussing these two
40:30
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items
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next just to provide a little bit of a
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context and placing these two items
40:37
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within the human services strategic plan
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you may recall from a few months ago
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when we were discussing the
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strategic plan
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we categorized the initiatives based on
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the funding needs into three buckets
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one we had initiatives that we believe
40:53
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that we can implement with existing
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human services staffing these would be
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connections that we provide to residents
40:59
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supporting non-profits providing
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technical assistance
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perhaps conducting trainings and
41:05
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educational sessions and then we had a
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second bucket with initiatives that
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could be funded through the human
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services grants and then third we
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identified a few initiatives
41:16
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that would require additional
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funds one-time or ongoing funds so
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that's why tonight we would like to
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address those last two
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buckets
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in particular the human services grants
41:29
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and then
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a new program project that requires
41:32
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additional funds
41:35
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and so on to the human services program
41:39
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what we hope to do as as we are
41:40
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returning to you
41:42
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from the study session in april
41:45
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we would love to review and address the
41:46
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feedback that we received at that study
41:49
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session
41:50
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we would like them to discuss the
41:52
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formula that we were proposing for you
41:54
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tonight and then also discuss the
41:56
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alignment with the other
41:57
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investments
41:59
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so on your screen here you have a
42:01
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summary of
42:03
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what our understanding is of the
42:04
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feedback that we received back in april
42:07
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um so from identifying funding gaps and
42:10
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needs and opportunities to make a
42:12
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difference
42:14
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to really
42:15
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prioritizing local services in the
42:17
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community
42:18
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considering increasing funding and
42:20
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average grant levels
42:22
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to
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focusing on the goals what we did again
42:26
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we just
42:27
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tried our best to understand and
42:29
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summarize all the feedback that we
42:31
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received from you
42:32
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and
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we try to organize them in two buckets
42:37
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items that we can work on and address
42:40
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with the human services commission and
42:42
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these would be again just ensuring that
42:44
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gaps from the strategic plan are
42:45
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considered prioritize local services
42:49
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identify programs that yield more
42:51
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strategic results
42:53
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and a bucket of items that we would love
42:54
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to discuss with you tonight
42:57
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and those include
42:58
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in particular presenting information on
43:01
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other jurisdictions
43:03
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proposing a formula for consideration
43:06
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discussing funding needs
43:09
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and then again including
43:12
↗
other human services items for
43:14
↗
consideration
43:16
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so i'm going to go down the list
43:18
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starting with information on neighboring
43:20
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jurisdiction
43:22
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we certainly reached how to
43:25
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our neighboring
43:26
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cities but we also reached out to all 16
43:29
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cities that we are in the collaborative
43:30
↗
with the human services grants
43:33
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what you have on the screen is just an
43:34
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example of
43:36
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what processes and some of the cities
43:38
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have and
43:39
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for example the city of kirkland and
43:41
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sammamish they don't have a specific set
43:44
↗
process they usually re-evaluate every
43:46
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two years
43:48
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their funding what the needs are
43:51
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they look at
43:53
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what resources exist and they might
43:55
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allocate one-time finding need funding
43:58
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funding
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the city of belvin redmond they have a
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more
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[Music]
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organized process
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that includes typically a
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cpi increase
44:11
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and the population growth percentage
44:14
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and then the city of snoqualmie and
44:17
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actually shoreline as well
44:19
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they assign a portion of their general
44:22
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funds to human services
44:24
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this last process we learned that
44:26
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actually
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some other cities
44:30
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are trying and recently
44:34
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have moved away from assigning um a
44:37
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percentage of their general funds to
44:38
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human services
44:40
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because the
44:41
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what they learned was that in times of
44:43
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crisis when general fund dollars um
44:46
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decrease that's typically when human
44:48
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services needs are higher and so then
44:51
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then what that would impact human
44:53
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services
44:54
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allocations
44:56
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so that's just a summary of examples of
44:58
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what other jurisdictions are doing
45:01
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similar to that we also looked at the
45:04
↗
per capita locations for the cities in
45:06
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the region and there's quite a large
45:09
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range and variety
45:10
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we have cities that that have a five
45:13
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dollar per capita allocation and then we
45:15
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have cities that go up in the mid 20s
45:17
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upper 20s so our city it's really kind
45:20
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of like in the middle um
45:23
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and then also comparing our city size
45:25
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with other cities again we are we are
45:27
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kind of in that mixture of um
45:29
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in the middle
45:30
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um certainly i can pause for more
45:34
↗
questions as as you might have them but
45:36
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i'm going to move forward to
45:39
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share with you
45:41
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the really the the
45:44
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one formula that we would like to
45:46
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propose to you tonight which includes um
45:50
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adding a cpi consumer price index um
45:56
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to to our existing baseline
45:58
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especially
46:01
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now when the inflation
46:03
↗
rate is is so high
46:05
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this may be important to look at we also
46:08
↗
understand that the cpi
46:10
↗
may fluctuate from year to year
46:13
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as you can see
46:14
↗
on the screen and in your report right
46:16
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now it's an at all time
46:18
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high
46:20
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certainly we looked at other formulas we
46:23
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would like to present this really as a
46:25
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mid-step or as an intermediate step
46:29
↗
until we
46:31
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gather more information from
46:33
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the human services strategic planning
46:35
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implementation as our city has been
46:37
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moving more and more to gather data and
46:39
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the metrics
46:41
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we would love to
46:44
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perhaps
46:46
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start with with this and then consider
46:48
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and look into once we have more data
46:51
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to to consider other options
46:54
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some of the other options that we looked
46:56
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into include um adding a population
47:00
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growth as well um that for for issaquah
47:03
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for now it's a 0.7
47:05
↗
percent for example but we also looked
47:08
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at something maybe unique that no other
47:10
↗
cities are doing and that would be
47:12
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let's say if we maintain the same per
47:14
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capita level uh we could consider adding
47:17
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an increase
47:18
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um just for a certain population like
47:21
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for example if our poverty lady rate
47:23
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it's 7.7
47:25
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we can consider a higher per capita rate
47:29
↗
for that population but we don't have
47:30
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enough data and it would be nice for us
47:32
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to continue um with the human services
47:34
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strategic planning implementation gather
47:36
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more data before we go in depth on those
47:40
↗
options certainly those are options
47:43
↗
and then last but not least of course we
47:45
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cannot talk about a formula without
47:47
↗
talking about the needs and rightfully
47:49
↗
so you brought them up at the last
47:51
↗
meeting as well
47:52
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and and here i would like to make the
47:54
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distinction between the community needs
47:56
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and the funding needs right we identify
47:58
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the community needs in the human
48:00
↗
services strategic plan but that's quite
48:02
↗
different from from the funding needs
48:05
↗
and
48:07
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certainly
48:08
↗
there are multiple ways to go about
48:10
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identifying what is the funding needs
48:12
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and i think the more we look deeper the
48:15
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more we realize uh just as you
48:17
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rightfully also mentioned
48:19
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in april is that as a local government
48:22
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it would be very very difficult for us
48:23
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to make a real impact if you look at the
48:26
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real needs and funding needs even just
48:28
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for example if we look at the wage gap
48:30
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we would start probably at minimum 30
48:32
↗
million dollar investment
48:34
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to really make an impact so it would be
48:37
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difficult for us as a small jurisdiction
48:39
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unless again we leverage other resources
48:42
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we look at what else is in the region
48:44
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and so forth and so um
48:47
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that's why
48:48
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we would love as i mentioned let's
48:50
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continue implementing the strategic plan
48:52
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let's look for opportunities for us to
48:54
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find
48:56
↗
targeted funding and opportunities to
48:58
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make impact
49:00
↗
and go from there so that actually takes
49:03
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me to i'm ready to continue with the
49:05
↗
next uh item
49:07
↗
it's a good segue but i will pause in
49:09
↗
case there are questions here before
49:13
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councilmember d michelle do you have any
49:15
↗
questions at this point
49:17
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i do not thank you
49:20
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please please continue okay thank you so
49:22
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much
49:25
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so as mentioning we would love to look
49:27
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for opportunities for targeted
49:29
↗
investments and and opportunities to to
49:31
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leverage resources and make an impact
49:34
↗
this takes me to our second item and
49:36
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that is piloting an emergency housing
49:39
↗
program that we would like to propose to
49:41
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you tonight
49:43
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this is just a visual again on kind of
49:45
↗
like where it falls within the human
49:47
↗
services strategic plan
49:49
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um
49:50
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and so i think the first question you
49:52
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might might be asking us is why this
49:54
↗
project and why not uh why now right and
49:58
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so i would love to start with the fact
50:00
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that
50:01
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we now have enough data to really
50:04
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confidently say that this is an
50:06
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identified need in our local community
50:09
↗
as you may recall last year we
50:13
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started a homeless outreach program
50:15
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we hadn't we took the year and the
50:17
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opportunity to really
50:19
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dive deeper and learn
50:21
↗
what's the face of homelessness in
50:22
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issaquah
50:24
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what are the real needs what are the
50:26
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challenges so we have quite a few
50:28
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information there
50:30
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but in addition to that we also
50:33
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identified a few opportunities
50:35
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during the emergency
50:38
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weather sheltering events we build a
50:40
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really strong connection with our
50:41
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partners at motel 6
50:44
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they really understand the work that we
50:46
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are doing
50:47
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they understand this model they are very
50:49
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supportive of us
50:50
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in addition to that
50:52
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we also identified timely opportunities
50:55
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for certain funds and funding
50:57
↗
options that i'm going to discuss in
50:59
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just a minute
51:00
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and then as the regional the regional
51:02
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level we are always looking on how are
51:05
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we aligned with other regional entities
51:08
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and so in our collaboration with uh the
51:11
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king county regional homelessness
51:12
↗
authority um then we identified some
51:16
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opportunities to collaborate there as
51:17
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well so
51:19
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um these are a few of the reasons why we
51:22
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would love to bring this to you
51:25
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tonight
51:26
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and
51:27
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with that
51:28
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i'm going to pause a little bit to
51:30
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invite
51:32
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our
51:34
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guests from kcrha
51:37
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they would like to provide an update on
51:39
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where they are
51:40
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as a regional jurisdiction and um a
51:43
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little bit about our collaboration with
51:45
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them so
51:47
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alexis mercedes rink and mallory welcome
51:53
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hello
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um so thankful to be with you all
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tonight our apologies for not being
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there in person i know we want to get
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out there soon again to see you all um
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but thank you so much for having us
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tonight
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my name is alexis mercedes rink i'm the
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sub regional planning manager valerie do
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you want to introduce yourself
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absolutely good evening my name is
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mallory van alma i am the east king
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county sub-regional planning specialist
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with kcrha thank you so much for
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allowing us some space this evening
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welcome thank you so much for being here
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this evening
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so i know that you've had an opportunity
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to hear from kcra j in the past but this
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is my first opportunity to interface
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with you all so i just wanted to provide
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a very high level overview of who we are
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our foundational guiding principles
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and and our governing mechanisms before
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we shift into some pieces that are kind
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of neatly woven into this proposed pilot
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program that we're extremely excited
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about the city of issaquah potentially
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taking leadership on so
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kcra jay's mission is to significantly
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decrease the instant incidences of
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homelessness throughout the entirety of
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king county we do that by evoking equity
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and social justice principles our work
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is guided by our theory of change and
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the theory of change is if we create a
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homelessness response system that
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centers customer voice or the voices of
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the people with lived experience of
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homelessness
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then we will be able to focus on
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responding to needs eliminating
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inequities in order to end homelessness
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or all
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thank you
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so our founding inner local agreement uh
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from the city of seattle and king county
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describes the role and scope and purpose
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of kcrha is intent on unifying planning
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and coordination of funding and services
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for folks experiencing homelessness
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oversight on policy and contract
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management and performance management
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and then we are also our regional
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continuum of care we've assumed the
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responsibility as the continuum of care
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agency
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receiving funding directly from the
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department of housing and urban
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development
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to directly invest back into the
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homelessness response system and get
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folks the services and resources that
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they need
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we are also tasked with creating an
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umbuds office which is a resource for
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folks accessing the homelessness
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response system for providers for people
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in the community
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a broad resource to ensure that we are
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remaining accountable on our work and
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that folks have a very clear pathway
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to elevate concerns as they are either
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personally navigating or working
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alongside someone who is navigating the
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system or observing
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some hang-up or bottleneck or concern
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within the homeless response system
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we're also tasked with establishing
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clear metrics and milestones for
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measuring the success of a
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transformation of a region-wide
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homelessness response system ensuring
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that all of that is uh
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maintaining accountability and
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transparency and then finally we have
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three different governing entities so we
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have our governing committee uh this is
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11 members
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we have eastside representation um but
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they are essentially in charge of our
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high level guidance so approving our
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budgets holding our ceo accountable
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and then we also have an implementation
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board which functions quite similarly to
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a board of directors
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and then finally we have our coc our
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continuum of care advisory board which
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is comprised of providers
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folks with lived experience and they are
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really helping us
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ensure that as the coc agency for the
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region that we are doing the best work
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that we can and holding us accountable
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in that space as well
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i think
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next is
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just a quick visual on what we do and
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don't do
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as a new agency recently launched
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i think there's been
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the need to just ensure clarity around
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what kcra is and isn't involved in we're
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closely partnered with the city of
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seattle and with king county
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but kcra j is not in the business of
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housing capital and development on the
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infrastructure side but we do manage all
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of the continuum of care funded programs
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including shelters and then all of the
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programs you see here diversion rapid
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rehousing the coordinated entry system
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which is where folks
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actually enter and are able to access
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resources that meet their needs that the
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best resources available that can
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adequately meet their needs
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we also manage the homelessness
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management information system
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which is a region-wide database of folks
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that are accessing services
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that are that are funded by us and also
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participating in hmis
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and we also manage outreach efforts uh
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through certain providers across the
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region so just a quick visual on what we
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do and don't do
56:47
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and if that i think that
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i'm going to hand it over to alexis to
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talk a bit about kind of our longer term
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designing work
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well thank you mallory and so we wanted
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to talk about two uh longer-term
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planning pieces and just uh starting
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with the five-year plan and then going
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into our proposed budget so we wanted to
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preview a little bit of the work around
57:05
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the five-year plan because it's likely
57:07
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you'll be hearing some things
57:08
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potentially in community especially
57:10
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since this is a big focus area right now
57:13
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within our founding legislation we have
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a requirement to deliver upon a
57:20
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there we go which really delivers upon
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uh the high level vision for the agency
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and so just to ground you into what
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needs to be included in the five-year
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plan we need to account for a theory of
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change um which we uh luckily have one
57:34
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already and that is centering the voices
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of those with live experience so we can
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check that box off
57:40
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the second piece is around specific
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measurable outcomes and goals so really
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getting clear on what are our goals for
57:46
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the next couple of years as a system
57:49
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and also how are we going what are the
57:50
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outcomes we're going to be looking for
57:52
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the next pieces around some regional
57:54
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planning activities we would love the
57:56
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opportunity to come back and talk to you
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all about how that work is shaping up
57:59
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specifically um for the east side and so
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we'd love to come in person and be able
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to talk a little bit more about that
58:05
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beyond tonight
58:07
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and following the sub regional
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activities piece
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we have requirements to share
58:13
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procurement processes we've had a team
58:15
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working around equitable procurement
58:17
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working in partnership with small
58:19
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providers by and for community based
58:21
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agencies um around
58:23
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putting together an equitable
58:25
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procurement process that would be
58:26
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included in the five-year plan
58:28
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um the next area is around consistent
58:31
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consistent terms and conditions for
58:34
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contracts um so getting really clear
58:36
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around what um what is required by hud
58:39
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that we need to report on what's
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required by the state and the various
58:41
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fund sources that we kind of manage and
58:43
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also where's the room for flexibility
58:45
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and how can we um create contracts that
58:48
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are
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able to uh be reasonably implemented
58:52
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upon and have folks reporting um at a
58:55
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reasonable level of information and
58:57
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valuable information that helps us make
59:00
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system level uh decisions
59:02
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the next piece is tied to that and
59:03
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that's really around consistent
59:04
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standards for data collection monitoring
59:06
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and evaluating our systems and program
59:08
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performance um so really getting clear
59:11
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on what kind of performance metrics and
59:13
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things are we going to be looking at as
59:14
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we know performance metrics drives uh
59:17
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the activities and so this is a real
59:19
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chance to reimagine and rebuild what um
59:21
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how we evaluate success
59:23
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um and the last piece um is kind of a
59:26
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catch-all category you could tell um
59:29
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that when there was
59:30
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a uh
59:31
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the deliberation in setting up the
59:33
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authority this is kind of the catch-all
59:34
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area which really is focused on
59:36
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internally how will the kcra work on
59:39
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continuous improvement evaluating our
59:42
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community engagement especially with
59:43
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folks with lived experience how we
59:45
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remain compliant with the continuum of
59:47
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care guidelines set by hud
59:50
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how do we work upon improving
59:51
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accountability through our ombuds office
59:53
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and data collection
59:55
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so that's a bit about the five-year plan
59:57
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i'm gonna go a little bit into about our
59:58
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proposed budget um in just the year of
1:00:01
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operations that we've been going going
1:00:04
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through um really with only six months
1:00:06
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fully operational and having taken over
1:00:09
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the contracts from state of seattle and
1:00:10
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king county we've already identified
1:00:13
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just through practice a variety of needs
1:00:15
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in our current system
1:00:16
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we have gaps in our current services
1:00:18
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around high acuity shelter high acuity
1:00:20
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referring to folks who have a variety of
1:00:22
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complex health and behavioral needs and
1:00:24
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experiencing homelessness
1:00:26
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we've highlighted that there's a need
1:00:28
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for emergency housing so looking at more
1:00:30
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indoor spaces that are non-congregate
1:00:32
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for folks to be as we know uh the
1:00:34
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waitlist currently for a sectioning
1:00:36
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housing voucher is about five years we
1:00:39
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have many folks who are outdoors who
1:00:42
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have been
1:00:43
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essentially determined eligible for
1:00:45
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a housing voucher but know where to be
1:00:47
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um and so looking at what do inter
1:00:50
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interim solutions look like through
1:00:52
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developing a program like emergency
1:00:53
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housing
1:00:55
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we are also looking at the fact that we
1:00:57
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have a gap in state parking programs
1:00:58
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around the the region um we have needs
1:01:01
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around us addressing severe weather as
1:01:03
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well
1:01:04
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both for heat and smoke and colds
1:01:08
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we're looking at addressing the ongoing
1:01:09
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effects of covid um from uh looking at
1:01:12
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provider wages which we'll get into
1:01:14
↗
momentarily and then further looking at
1:01:16
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our own operations and trying to make
1:01:18
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sure we have the staffing support to
1:01:19
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fully support all the work
1:01:21
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and
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um with that that translates into our
1:01:25
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budget request um and so we are looking
1:01:27
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at um a budget additions to account for
1:01:30
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exactly these things and so when we're
1:01:32
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looking at um
1:01:34
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really looking at
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safe parking uh this budget house would
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allow for us to serve 194 folks living
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out of vehicles annually um for daytime
1:01:43
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community spaces we could be serving
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additional uh an additional 1400 people
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every year um our emergency housing ask
1:01:51
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of 20 million would allow to create
1:01:53
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345 additional beds
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and our ask around high acuity shelter
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would allow for 55 high acuity shelter
1:02:00
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beds
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and so we also recognize that our system
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as i know has i've heard council members
1:02:07
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do michelle talk about i think the last
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time i was um in a meeting with you all
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we have a tremendous need uh to be
1:02:13
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accounting for the amazing service
1:02:14
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providers that do these services and we
1:02:16
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have accounted that into our budget
1:02:18
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request so being able to provide for
1:02:20
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increases for front-line staff um to
1:02:23
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hold steady the sys our system um and
1:02:26
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and be able to maintain so folks can
1:02:28
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continue to do the good work and also be
1:02:30
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able to live good lives when they go
1:02:32
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home from work
1:02:33
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and live in this community
1:02:35
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um we're
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in in summary we're also looking at
1:02:38
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being able to provide additional
1:02:40
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compensation for folks that lived
1:02:41
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experience and smaller bypark agencies
1:02:43
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to participate in regional planning and
1:02:45
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then always seeking out technical
1:02:47
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assistance for smaller providers as well
1:02:51
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and so what we're trying to move from
1:02:53
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this is our kind of current system we
1:02:54
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have folks who are experiencing
1:02:56
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unsheltered homelessness they get
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connected either through a rapid free
1:02:59
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housing program which provides for a
1:03:01
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temporary like rental assistance and
1:03:03
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support um for a period of time i know
1:03:06
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mallory's own experience she was a rapid
1:03:08
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rehousing case manager for a period of
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time and could probably speak better to
1:03:12
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even that program um and
1:03:15
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but we also have another pathway where
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folks are in um congregate shelter
1:03:19
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spaces and they get entered into the
1:03:21
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coordinated entry for all system and go
1:03:23
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into
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um a housing placement cea will match
1:03:26
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them with um a permanent housing
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solution that best would meet their
1:03:30
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needs but we have very limited options
1:03:32
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in permanent housing
1:03:34
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what we want to move to and what our
1:03:35
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budget is actually seeking to do is to
1:03:38
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acknowledge that the journey from
1:03:39
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unsheltered homelessness and into
1:03:42
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permanent housing needs to be nuanced
1:03:43
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and needs to actually account for the
1:03:46
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folks the fact that many folks have a
1:03:48
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variety of different needs
1:03:50
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and we want to create additional
1:03:52
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options for those folks so we still have
1:03:54
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rapid rehousing included at the top
1:03:56
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there and shelter included in the middle
1:03:58
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there but we've created two additional
1:04:00
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options one emergency housing again
1:04:02
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looking at spaces that are
1:04:04
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non-congregate
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non-time limited
1:04:08
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and so single room setting spaces and
1:04:10
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investing in that type of model um and
1:04:13
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then we're also looking at high acuity
1:04:14
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shelter to account for the fact that we
1:04:16
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do have a a
1:04:17
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portion of our unhoused community that
1:04:19
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is in need of a higher level of service
1:04:22
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and um looking at how we can create
1:04:25
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models that
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are fully support the needs of those
1:04:28
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folks and so once in that inter interim
1:04:32
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space
1:04:34
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through cea being able to adjust cea so
1:04:36
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we can account for the appropriate
1:04:38
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housing for that person's stage of life
1:04:40
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and create a better spectrum of
1:04:42
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supportive housing models whether that's
1:04:44
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that's light touch or something that's
1:04:45
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along the term along the lines of longer
1:04:48
↗
term assisted living wanting to
1:04:50
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invest in these types of housing models
1:04:52
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so
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we can better stabilize folks in their
1:04:56
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path for stability my apologies
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sorry about that
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the choice of working from home and with
1:05:06
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that that takes us to the end she was
1:05:08
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ready for me to be done
1:05:11
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and we're happy to take any questions
1:05:13
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you have
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so
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monica can you explain for our benefit
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and for the benefit and why we're
1:05:23
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getting an overview on kcrha
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yes thank you so much
1:05:28
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councilmember mart and thank you so much
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for
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our guests for their presentation
1:05:35
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i think we wanted to to show and discuss
1:05:38
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with you um
1:05:41
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the idea that we are trying to propose a
1:05:43
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local
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um
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service here a local option
1:05:48
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however
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we don't want to just be in a silo and
1:05:52
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isolate it we want to integrate it and
1:05:54
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make sure that we align with other
1:05:56
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regional plans um so we thought that
1:05:58
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this is a good opportunity to
1:06:00
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invite
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king county regional homelessness
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authority to provide an overview of the
1:06:05
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work that they are doing and for us to
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discuss on how our work may or may not
1:06:09
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align with their priorities um so that
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was the intent
1:06:14
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all right so with that in mind do we
1:06:16
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have any questions before we move on to
1:06:18
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discussing the actual proposed emergency
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housing program
1:06:22
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council member di michelle
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i do not that was a very comprehensive
1:06:28
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presentation thank you
1:06:30
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all right
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thank you so much and so i'm gonna
1:06:33
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continue and and uh move i have a few
1:06:36
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more slides here to go in diving a
1:06:38
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little bit deeper into our proposal
1:06:41
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my next two slides are borrowed from
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kcrha
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this is a slide that you just saw in
1:06:47
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their presentation and i just added
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there a yellow star that this is where
1:06:51
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our
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proposed emergency housing model would
1:06:54
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fit in in their continuum in the larger
1:06:56
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continuum in the region
1:06:59
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and then next i liked this video because
1:07:01
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i really believe that our um you know
1:07:04
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project
1:07:05
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what we are proposing really um um i
1:07:09
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think this is a nice visual that
1:07:10
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explains on how what we are proposing
1:07:13
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really is meant to bridge the gap
1:07:14
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between
1:07:16
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the shelter system and
1:07:18
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folks who are unsheltered in the streets
1:07:21
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and really permanent housing
1:07:23
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here i would like to add that
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as you you know and you're familiar with
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our homeless outreach program since last
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year when we started the program this
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was a really big surprise for us um our
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team engaged with 112 unduplicated
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homeless folks in issaquah and i think
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what's different and what we notice that
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is different in in here our locally in
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issaquah is that about 50 of those
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really live unsheltered either in camps
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or on the street and this is quite
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different from the rest of east king
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county when we looked at the 2020
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point in time count we just didn't have
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the most recent one
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only 11 percent of the folks who are
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homeless on east king county live in
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camps or in the street the other ones
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the vast majority are in some sort of
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shelter and so i think that is that is
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something concerning for us because we
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really just do not have enough services
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to um to connect these folks to
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uh so now on to um what are we actually
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proposing so what we were thinking is to
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start
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with a pilot in our partnership with
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motel 6 we were thinking about
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renting for one year a dozen rooms
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to turn them into an emergency housing
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program
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we would also love to work with a
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service provider who would monitor
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services and would provide the on-site
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services for folks who are there from
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making sure that people have meals and
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they have their basic needs covered that
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stability that that is so much needed
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but really into providing that case
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management if there are like employment
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services educational services life
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skills that long-term connection
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we would hope to to provide that with
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with a service provider
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and then we would also love to continue
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to work with mont hall 6
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you know where they would provide all
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the other supports from utilities uh to
1:09:22
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parking to nighttime security services
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um um so it would be like a three-way
1:09:29
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collaboration um between us multisex and
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the shelter provider
1:09:37
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there are certainly other variables here
1:09:39
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we can discuss as you might have and we
1:09:41
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can certainly bring back additional
1:09:43
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information but since this is just a
1:09:44
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very initial first time when this is in
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front of you just wanted to provide that
1:09:49
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high level
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information
1:09:52
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as we started thinking about budget
1:09:54
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needs and funding needs
1:09:56
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some of the areas that we identified as
1:09:59
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possible funding sources
1:10:01
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one of them and i think the the main one
1:10:04
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for us would be possibilities through
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the
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tax dollars that our city uh chose to
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receive through house bill 1590
1:10:12
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if you remember
1:10:14
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i believe last year our city decided to
1:10:18
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add those sale taxes to our budget and
1:10:21
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those are allocated especially for
1:10:23
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affordable housing that includes also
1:10:25
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mental health services so this program
1:10:27
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would fall
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under
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those eligible
1:10:31
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categories
1:10:32
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of course we would love to and that's
1:10:34
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actually the second reason why we wanted
1:10:36
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to have kcrha here as well because we
1:10:39
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would love to explore
1:10:40
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funding opportunities for services
1:10:43
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should those become available
1:10:45
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and so we would love to consider
1:10:47
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applying for a grant from the king
1:10:49
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county regional homelessness authority
1:10:51
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so we would love to continue exploring
1:10:53
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those options
1:10:55
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not sure how much we would love to dive
1:10:57
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deeper and how realistic it is but we
1:11:00
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could at some point we discussed
1:11:01
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possible arpa allocation american rescue
1:11:04
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plan act allocations this may or may not
1:11:06
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be realistic at this time but also we
1:11:09
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would love to explore um other sources
1:11:12
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as well we would love to look to see if
1:11:14
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there are any state dollars or private
1:11:16
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donations as well that we could access
1:11:19
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and next i would like to just provide a
1:11:21
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brief high-level initial
1:11:24
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preliminary budget details
1:11:28
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we broke down
1:11:30
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the budget into two categories
1:11:33
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facility and operation cost we are
1:11:35
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looking at around three hundred thousand
1:11:37
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dollars and the program and service
1:11:40
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costs we would look at another depending
1:11:41
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on
1:11:44
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how
1:11:46
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the program
1:11:47
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gets identified we can go as low as 250
1:11:50
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000 to
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400 dollars here it depends on the
1:11:54
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number of staff support that we would
1:11:57
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have
1:11:58
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so the total cost of the project would
1:12:00
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be anywhere between five hundred
1:12:02
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thousand and seven hundred thousand uh
1:12:04
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under those um
1:12:06
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um
1:12:07
↗
details that i just mentioned
1:12:11
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in terms of
1:12:12
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what are the options next or a proposed
1:12:15
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timeline
1:12:16
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if
1:12:18
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this committee considers that
1:12:21
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we can further explore this
1:12:23
↗
program and project we would love after
1:12:25
↗
this committee meeting to begin some
1:12:27
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community conversations
1:12:29
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get feedback from the community we would
1:12:31
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love to gather information based on your
1:12:33
↗
feedback perhaps come back to a
1:12:35
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committee a meeting in july
1:12:38
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continue community conversations
1:12:40
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we could with your permission then
1:12:42
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consider coming back in august
1:12:44
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to a committee of the whole
1:12:47
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perhaps come to a full council meeting
1:12:49
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in september and again if
1:12:52
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all the details work out then perhaps to
1:12:54
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include all the details into the budget
1:12:57
↗
process that you're going to go through
1:12:59
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in the fall
1:13:00
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with an estimated
1:13:03
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requests for proposals for a service
1:13:06
↗
provider in late fall and perhaps again
1:13:09
↗
if everything works out starting the
1:13:11
↗
pilot in january
1:13:13
↗
again just high level we are very open
1:13:15
↗
to feedback
1:13:17
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and discussion questions from you
1:13:20
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and before i'm just going to pause i
1:13:22
↗
just have a couple of more details to
1:13:24
↗
add this is just a visual on how it fits
1:13:26
↗
within again the strategic planning you
1:13:28
↗
have on the screen again the questions
1:13:30
↗
that we are proposing for you tonight
1:13:34
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and
1:13:35
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you know as far as options
1:13:37
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we can come back with a proposed formula
1:13:39
↗
for human services grants we can
1:13:42
↗
continue exploring the emergency housing
1:13:44
↗
options
1:13:45
↗
we can take a totally different approach
1:13:47
↗
based on your feedback or
1:13:49
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take no further action
1:13:51
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if if that is
1:13:53
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your
1:13:55
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input our recommendation certainly would
1:13:58
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be to on one end implement a formula for
1:14:00
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the human services grants but also we
1:14:02
↗
would love to pilot
1:14:04
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the emergency housing
1:14:06
↗
model as a targeted investment in human
1:14:08
↗
services funds
1:14:12
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and so that concludes my presentation
1:14:14
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and on the screen again you have the
1:14:16
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questions are you supportive of
1:14:18
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establishing a formula for human
1:14:19
↗
services grants are you supportive of
1:14:21
↗
piloting the emergency housing model
1:14:24
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would you like to
1:14:27
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recommend something else or what type of
1:14:29
↗
information
1:14:30
↗
would be helpful for us to bring back to
1:14:32
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you
1:14:33
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thank you
1:14:36
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and i will see
1:14:38
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first off if there are any questions
1:14:39
↗
from my fellow council members and i see
1:14:41
↗
councilmember reyes ready with at least
1:14:43
↗
one question at least one question thank
1:14:45
↗
you chair marge monica thank you for
1:14:47
↗
that um and
1:14:49
↗
alexis and mallory thank you for the
1:14:51
↗
presentation on
1:14:53
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kc
1:14:54
↗
rha because that was great context but
1:14:57
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it really leads me to my first question
1:14:58
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which is
1:14:59
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how is what we're talking about here
1:15:02
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different than the mission and scope of
1:15:04
↗
kc
1:15:05
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rha
1:15:08
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i don't believe it's necessarily
1:15:10
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different i think it's just a local
1:15:13
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response um
1:15:21
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i'm trying to go back and look at them i
1:15:22
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think city administrator bob quits would
1:15:24
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like to
1:15:25
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uh thank you uh chair marks
1:15:28
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we've spent a lot of time thinking about
1:15:31
↗
next steps
1:15:32
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certainly uh
1:15:34
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council member ray other members of the
1:15:36
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council really challenged us over the
1:15:37
↗
last many months
1:15:39
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to look at what our role in all this is
1:15:42
↗
that
1:15:43
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i think the council has said we want to
1:15:45
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make sure that those individuals in this
1:15:47
↗
community are served but we also want to
1:15:49
↗
make sure that the services we're
1:15:51
↗
providing
1:15:53
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are complementary to other services do
1:15:55
↗
not duplicate other services
1:15:58
↗
because there is certainly
1:16:00
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need everywhere
1:16:01
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there's lots of resources but there's
1:16:03
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probably not enough resources and i
1:16:04
↗
think as you've heard this evening
1:16:07
↗
from the kc rha staff
1:16:10
↗
you know they are still looking for
1:16:12
↗
resources significant resources
1:16:14
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from our
1:16:15
↗
larger brother and sister jurisdictions
1:16:18
↗
king county the city of seattle
1:16:20
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so with that we've said what can we do
1:16:22
↗
to help people and i think as monica has
1:16:24
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indicated
1:16:26
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we have now in place
1:16:28
↗
with our behavioral health specialists i
1:16:29
↗
think a very good program to identify
1:16:32
↗
issaquah residents in need to provide
1:16:35
↗
help for them but we're discovering that
1:16:37
↗
the one piece that we cannot provide and
1:16:39
↗
there are no others that can provide is
1:16:41
↗
the shelter that temporary shelter
1:16:44
↗
as additional services are provided to
1:16:46
↗
help people get to the point where they
1:16:48
↗
can
1:16:49
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shelter hopefully shelter themselves so
1:16:51
↗
that's where this proposal comes from as
1:16:53
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we've worked with the regional homeless
1:16:55
↗
authority
1:16:56
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this is their goal too however
1:17:00
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it's a big county with lots of people in
1:17:02
↗
need um and there are limited outside
1:17:05
↗
resources i think as was referred to
1:17:07
↗
by alexis there's a 20 million dollar
1:17:09
↗
ask to the city of seattle just for
1:17:12
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their piece of of this puzzle let alone
1:17:15
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the rest of the county so we think this
1:17:16
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is very complementary quite honestly the
1:17:18
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administration is
1:17:20
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as proud of the work that our staff has
1:17:22
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done
1:17:23
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to say we have a need here we cannot
1:17:25
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wait any longer
1:17:27
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let's come up with something that we
1:17:28
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think makes sense uh we have a funding
1:17:31
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source uh through the sales tax the
1:17:34
↗
one-tenth the one percent sales tax
1:17:35
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which has been in place now for what a
1:17:37
↗
year and a half
1:17:38
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um and that those dollars in the bank
1:17:41
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are
1:17:42
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uh
1:17:43
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1.5 million dollars we expect it to be
1:17:46
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close to 2 million
1:17:47
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by the end of the year and no designated
1:17:50
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um purpose for that with an asterisk
1:17:53
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that the trans the transit oriented
1:17:55
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development
1:17:56
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project will likely need some additional
1:17:58
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funding and so i think we all recognize
1:17:59
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that that serves as a potential pot too
1:18:02
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so
1:18:03
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i think we're excited about what we have
1:18:05
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here we think it's very complementary to
1:18:07
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what the regional homeless authority is
1:18:09
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doing
1:18:10
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they have a very very tough assignment
1:18:12
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and that is the rest of the county we
1:18:14
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think we have a plan that will be
1:18:16
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complementary to the work that we're
1:18:18
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already doing with our behavioral health
1:18:19
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specialists that will continue to help
1:18:22
↗
issaquah residents and as we understand
1:18:24
↗
the policy direction from the council
1:18:26
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that is your desire for the focus that
1:18:28
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we continue to help issaquah residents
1:18:31
↗
hopefully that at least begins to answer
1:18:33
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your questions i think that i think that
1:18:34
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um answered my question um but i won
1:18:36
↗
follow-up because there was one thing
1:18:38
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that i really really resonated with me
1:18:40
↗
in the kc rha when i really have a hard
1:18:43
↗
time getting that acronym out but kcrha
1:18:46
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presentation that was specific and
1:18:48
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measurable outcomes and goals
1:18:50
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and how do you measure success so have
1:18:51
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you given a thought to
1:18:52
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how we'd do that if we were to create
1:18:54
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our own you know mini-me
1:18:57
↗
program how would we
1:18:59
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go about measuring success
1:19:02
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thank you so much for that question
1:19:04
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we always start with that and
1:19:06
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for homelessness it's very very
1:19:07
↗
difficult but one of the items that we
1:19:09
↗
are looking at or one of the ways in
1:19:11
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which we want to measure success is is
1:19:13
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really to be able to see less
1:19:16
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individuals who are homeless on our
1:19:17
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streets in our parks um
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[Music]
1:19:21
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so then we can see them successfully
1:19:23
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connected with the services they need to
1:19:25
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begin their journey out of homelessness
1:19:28
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um and back into society so that's our
1:19:31
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biggest
1:19:32
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way to measure success in this case
1:19:36
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and also our biggest challenge right now
1:19:38
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when we engage with them and we just
1:19:40
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don't have a place to connect them to
1:19:44
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and if i could just amplify the very
1:19:46
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last point
1:19:47
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we are measuring it and we are measuring
1:19:49
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failure
1:19:50
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on that last point that we have the
1:19:53
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service we have the resources to
1:19:54
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identify people in need we have the
1:19:56
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resources to triage what those needs are
1:19:59
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we have partnerships with other
1:20:01
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providers
1:20:02
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to help those individuals but it comes
1:20:05
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to the point where if they do not have a
1:20:07
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roof over their head it makes all the
1:20:09
↗
other services that we're providing it
1:20:11
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does not allow that continuum to move
1:20:13
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forward so
1:20:15
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i don't want to say we're failing but i
1:20:17
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think as we are measuring the work that
1:20:19
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we're doing we have clearly identified
1:20:22
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this as the number one piece of a puzzle
1:20:24
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that we're not able to to to provide
1:20:27
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nor is anyone else we go currently to
1:20:30
↗
other providers it's nokwami north bend
1:20:32
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for housing bellevue for housing
1:20:35
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many times our
1:20:36
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very real specialists know exactly who
1:20:38
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to call and they call and they find out
1:20:40
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there is no room
1:20:42
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and so then we're left in some cases i
1:20:44
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know from talking to the staff
1:20:46
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that we have to tell the individual yes
1:20:48
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you have appointments with appropriate
1:20:50
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mental
1:20:51
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health professionals but you need to
1:20:53
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remain on the street because there's no
1:20:55
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place else for you to go so i think that
1:20:57
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is a measure
1:20:59
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certainly of a need for improvement and
1:21:01
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i think really one of the drivers that
1:21:02
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brings us here this evening is that we
1:21:04
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have that data we know the people we we
1:21:07
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know that we have other resources it's
1:21:09
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that piece of providing a roof over
1:21:11
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their head while they're getting on
1:21:12
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their feet that we just don't have
1:21:16
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councilmember ray do you have other
1:21:17
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questions at this point not at this
1:21:19
↗
moment thank you councilmember di
1:21:20
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michelle
1:21:25
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no questions at this time thank you
1:21:27
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chair mart
1:21:29
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i have a couple
1:21:30
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that the one tenth of one percent uh
1:21:32
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sales tax that we enacted a while back
1:21:36
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what's the annual revenue on that
1:21:40
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it's been estimated in this year's
1:21:42
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budget is estimated eight hundred
1:21:43
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thousand dollars okay so it would cover
1:21:46
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the anticipated cost that anticipated i
1:21:48
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think was 550 to 750. is that the total
1:21:52
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anticipated cost of this program that is
1:21:54
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the total anticipated cost with um
1:21:57
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what we were proposing with having a
1:21:59
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daytime service provider and support
1:22:02
↗
from motel 6 for nighttime services and
1:22:04
↗
for the dozen rooms yes
1:22:07
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and i have a third question have we
1:22:10
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talked
1:22:11
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um at all to so this is
1:22:15
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you're all in the parks department
1:22:18
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have we talked to ipd or any other
1:22:19
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departments about the practical side of
1:22:23
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running this program
1:22:25
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yes we did touch base early on with
1:22:28
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our partners in ipd
1:22:30
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i know that one of the challenges that
1:22:32
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they brought on early on was
1:22:34
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on weekends and evenings when they need
1:22:37
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to sometimes they they really have a
1:22:39
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high need to
1:22:41
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provide a shelter to someone and
1:22:44
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nobody's available and nothing's
1:22:45
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available so i think this could be a
1:22:47
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good resource for them as well
1:22:49
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sometimes they interact with people in
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the middle of the night that are fleeing
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domestic violence situations and they
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need to find a place for them right away
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and they don't have it so that is one
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area for in which i know ipd is is very
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open and excited to have some resources
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available
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so they're generally supportive of this
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particular proposal
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yes from initial conversations with them
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yes okay thank you thank you
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well i don't think there's any other
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questions right now this is a point
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where
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i would ask if any members of the public
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either present or and i see at least one
1:23:25
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hand going up but i will also mention
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if you're remote and
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you want to participate in this
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conversation please indicate
1:23:33
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as we as we said earlier raise your hand
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or other mechanisms but we do have one
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individual here so i'll ask you to come
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forward and give your name and
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address in relationship to the city and
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you've got five minutes
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uh my name is
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there we go so we can record your
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comments for possible
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my name is doug schlepp and
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i
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work here in the city i live in smamish
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i work at work lofts off gilman and have
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been a long time consultant to the city
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but i'm not acting in that capacity at
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this moment
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and i just want to
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thank the
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city for the work that they're doing
1:24:23
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this
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my wife and i have been
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doing street outreach
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for the past year working with the
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isquad food bank the city we've been
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attending uh regular meetings with the
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city regarding this issue
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and i i second the
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um
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comments made by the city administrator
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and monica and staff
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and the efforts um
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this is
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uh to put a face on it
1:24:55
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we probably met over 100 people over
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this last year
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know them by name
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got to know their history
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some of them are third generation
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residents of issaquah
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this is
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i i used to think that this was a you
1:25:15
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know seattle's problem
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but reality um and i don't know if
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problem is a good word for it but this
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is a concern i think of the city and i
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think the city is recognizing that
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in addition to
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residents we also have seen
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people who work
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here in the city
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and then are living on the streets
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and i think some of the issues that
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they face are
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security
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if you're
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living
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on the street or in a tent
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and you want to get a meal that's being
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provided across town
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you either take all your possessions
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with you or leave them behind and
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they're subject to being looted and so
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security and finding a safe place
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that's secure
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excuse me secure
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reliable
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and you can lock the door behind you
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things that we take for granted
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are really critical to
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the next step and i think the the
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successes that
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what we
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saw over this past year
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were things like
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getting a an id
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and getting an id could take months
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and it's just that that um
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the challenge of uh having a safe place
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to
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lay your head at night
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and then
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being able to
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then take that next step towards uh
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normalcy and i think the one thing that
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um
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that i
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learned over this last year is i used to
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approach
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this
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from my perspective
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and my perspective is one where i have a
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home
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i have a stable environment i have a job
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and i would impose that on the people i
1:27:16
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would see on the streets you know why
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doesn't that person just get a job
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and it's really unfair because they are
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coming from a place that i can't even um
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fathom
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and i just i really want to
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encourage the
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council
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the city to move forward with this
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program i think it's important
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and
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i heard the
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representatives from the king county
1:27:43
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agency talk about ending homelessness
1:27:46
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and that would be incredible if we could
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do that and i think that's the ultimate
1:27:50
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goal
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but
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the
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steps forward are going to be
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incremental and i really applaud the
1:27:57
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city in making that effort to make that
1:27:59
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a reality
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thank you
1:28:03
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thank you for your comment uh is there
1:28:05
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anyone else either in the room or remote
1:28:07
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who wishes to speak to this issue before
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we deliberate it
1:28:12
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yes chair martz we have next up wishing
1:28:15
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to speak erin longchari
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aaron i am now making you a panelist you
1:28:20
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should see the option to unmute and you
1:28:22
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may also turn on your video
1:28:30
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erin
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yes thank you so much i'm having issues
1:28:33
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with my video um
1:28:35
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well we can hear you we can hear you
1:28:37
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just fine so
1:28:38
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great
1:28:40
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thank you thank you um city
1:28:41
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administrator and and the council and
1:28:44
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alexis monica thank you guys all so much
1:28:47
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for for your wonderful presentation um
1:28:49
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i'm erin longchari i am the director of
1:28:52
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operations and programs at the issaquah
1:28:54
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food and clothing bank
1:28:56
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i would like to
1:28:59
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extend our full support of the city's
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emergency shelter proposal plan
1:29:06
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local available supportive shelter
1:29:09
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services are an enormous gap in our
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community for our residents
1:29:14
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it is an absolutely critical area of
1:29:17
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need
1:29:18
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we at the food bank are a very close
1:29:20
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partner of the city's human services
1:29:22
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team and we're often the first point of
1:29:25
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contact for people in crisis who who
1:29:28
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need this service
1:29:31
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we need a place where the residents that
1:29:34
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our partner agencies work with on a
1:29:36
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daily weekly yearly basis sometimes
1:29:40
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and thank you to doug we work so closely
1:29:42
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together he's he and susan have been
1:29:45
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such amazing amazing partners in this
1:29:47
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work
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we need a place where these residents
1:29:51
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can have some safe respite
1:29:54
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whether to stay
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safe from some weather extremes
1:29:58
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have medical recovery after after
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surgery
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to find mental health or substance abuse
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treatment and and vital case management
1:30:10
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services
1:30:11
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um
1:30:12
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among many other reasons but those ones
1:30:14
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in particular that i've highlighted are
1:30:16
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instances where the food bank has spent
1:30:19
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our vital and and scarce financial
1:30:23
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donation resources around providing
1:30:26
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emergency hotel shelter for individuals
1:30:29
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that we work with
1:30:31
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on a daily basis who need this kind of
1:30:34
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service and help
1:30:37
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we couldn't
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we couldn't express more the gap that
1:30:42
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exists around this type of program
1:30:45
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and i think the city administrator just
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highlighted
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exactly
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what's different about a program like
1:30:53
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this
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and how it it can be the link between
1:30:57
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somebody coming to the food bank at 6 59
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p.m before we close in crisis
1:31:04
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which
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um happens often
1:31:07
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um and we can provide tarps tents food
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uh
1:31:12
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all sorts of emergency supplies and they
1:31:15
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may have an appointment or or a case
1:31:18
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management provider meeting in in a day
1:31:20
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or two
1:31:22
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to get into treatment
1:31:24
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or to get a medical issue resolved
1:31:26
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but rather than being able to have a
1:31:28
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safe temporary respite spot for these
1:31:32
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individuals these residents whom we know
1:31:34
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and care so deeply for
1:31:37
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we have to send them back out to the
1:31:38
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street sometimes they return to us and
1:31:41
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sometimes they don't
1:31:43
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and that
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that is where we as a city and as a
1:31:48
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community can do so much better and and
1:31:51
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i thank you for for the opportunity to
1:31:53
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to speak in support of this partnership
1:31:56
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thank you thank you for your comments
1:31:59
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clerk has anyone else uh indicated
1:32:02
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an interest in speaking
1:32:05
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yes chair martz next up is brad poston
1:32:10
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brad i am making you a panelist you
1:32:12
↗
should now uh
1:32:14
↗
be able to unmute and also turn on your
1:32:16
↗
video
1:32:19
↗
perfect can you hear me
1:32:21
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yes we can
1:32:23
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thank you very much um it's a pleasure
1:32:25
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to be here um this evening with all of
1:32:27
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you i want to say well first of all i'm
1:32:29
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brad poston i'm the director of
1:32:30
↗
operations for the moto 6 operated by
1:32:33
↗
icon hospitality they're in is a isoqua
1:32:37
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we're new to the community but this
1:32:39
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initiative is not new to me
1:32:41
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they say that things happen for a reason
1:32:43
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and i believe that wholly
1:32:45
↗
um in my own past i've
1:32:47
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sat on the board of directors for
1:32:49
↗
non-profits that have addressed this
1:32:51
↗
issue across the country from colorado
1:32:53
↗
on
1:32:54
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and it really does come down to
1:32:56
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resources and a culture of care
1:33:00
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and i think that's where our partnership
1:33:02
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and our side is coming from
1:33:04
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is
1:33:05
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our our values in
1:33:07
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icon cares one of our corporate values
1:33:10
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and heart for a service one of our
1:33:11
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franchise values for the brand itself
1:33:14
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during crisis just like the one we went
1:33:16
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through together as partners
1:33:17
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successfully
1:33:18
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recently
1:33:20
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we're just coming back to the table to
1:33:21
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you all and just saying how much we
1:33:24
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admire the community how much we support
1:33:26
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you and your efforts and how wonderful
1:33:29
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this opportunity to become partners is
1:33:31
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so thank you all very much for the hard
1:33:32
↗
work monica amir all of you you guys are
1:33:35
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wonderful thank you so much and i'll
1:33:38
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give back my time
1:33:40
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thank you so much for your comments and
1:33:42
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thank you for joining us this evening
1:33:44
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clerk do we have anyone else who is
1:33:46
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indicated
1:33:47
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yes we do chair marts paul lawali
1:33:51
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is wishing to speak on this topic
1:33:54
↗
paul i am now making you a panelist you
1:33:57
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should see the option to unmute and you
1:33:59
↗
may turn on your video
1:34:02
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yeah good evening council members uh my
1:34:04
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name is paul wally i am i work with
1:34:07
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friends of youth and we are a local
1:34:10
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eastside
1:34:11
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service provider
1:34:13
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for
1:34:14
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homeless youth and we're unsheltered you
1:34:17
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and i just wanted to uh to join the
1:34:20
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folks who have gone before me and
1:34:22
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just echoed some of the things that
1:34:24
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aaron has said
1:34:25
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related to
1:34:27
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the need for safe respite the need to
1:34:30
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provide folks with places where they can
1:34:32
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find not only just clothing food but
1:34:36
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also a place to whatever services they
1:34:38
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need especially mental health behavioral
1:34:40
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health substance use
1:34:42
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so i highly encourage the city to uh to
1:34:46
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go along with this pilot program uh
1:34:48
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we've been in the in the local area for
1:34:51
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seven years
1:34:52
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and we've worked with the the city of
1:34:55
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issaquah and with
1:34:57
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monica for for a while
1:34:59
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uh but we just think that you know if i
1:35:01
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had to just give my professional opinion
1:35:04
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right now the need is so great and how
1:35:06
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many people from issaquah have to go all
1:35:09
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the way to
1:35:11
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bellevue or seattle on any given night
1:35:14
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especially
1:35:15
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when it's severe weather
1:35:17
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it's uh it's just one of these very dire
1:35:19
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needs so fully support this as a service
1:35:22
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provider and i hope that uh you can
1:35:24
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pilot this and i love that the
1:35:27
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that the city of issaquah has taken a
1:35:28
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proactive stance of saying well let's go
1:35:31
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ahead and recommend a pilot and let's
1:35:33
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see what's what's out there and let's
1:35:35
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see how we can work on this so thank you
1:35:37
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very much for your time
1:35:39
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and i hope you you you move forward with
1:35:41
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this pilot
1:35:43
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thank you for your comments
1:35:45
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clerk
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i see no other members of the public uh
1:35:50
↗
indicating a desire to speak on this
1:35:52
↗
topic chair martz although i would like
1:35:53
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to remind those that did speak if you
1:35:55
↗
could lower your virtual hands please
1:36:00
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do we have anyone else present who
1:36:02
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wishes to speak to this issue
1:36:04
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seeing none and seeing no no further
1:36:08
↗
activity remotely we will move to
1:36:10
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uh discussion of the four issues that
1:36:12
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are in front of us then uh mr nagrilla
1:36:14
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if you could please put those four
1:36:15
↗
questions back up just as a reminder for
1:36:18
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us
1:36:18
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first question is is the committee
1:36:20
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supportive of establishing a formula for
1:36:22
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human services grants funding
1:36:24
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allocations with that let's start with
1:36:27
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council member to michelle
1:36:33
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thank you i i have to stop and say i was
1:36:36
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really moved by
1:36:38
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the comments tonight and
1:36:40
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so thanks to everybody that took the
1:36:42
↗
time to come in and talk to us
1:36:45
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um
1:36:47
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on the human services grants
1:36:50
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i of course support the idea of a
1:36:53
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formula
1:36:54
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um
1:36:56
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and i think you may have seen seen the
1:36:58
↗
email that i sent earlier i do have
1:37:01
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concerns
1:37:03
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about
1:37:04
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how that will play out given the timing
1:37:07
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that's being proposed and the amount of
1:37:09
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money that's being proposed
1:37:11
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and um
1:37:13
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if
1:37:14
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manager
1:37:16
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uh negrilla can correct me if i'm wrong
1:37:19
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but and i realize it's a projection but
1:37:22
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the projection is
1:37:24
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uh 500 000
1:37:27
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for human services grants in
1:37:30
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23 and 24
1:37:32
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and then using the formula we would
1:37:34
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increase that in um
1:37:37
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25 26
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to
1:37:40
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543 000 and and i realized that's a
1:37:44
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projection
1:37:45
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and that there are discussions we could
1:37:47
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have about the formula but
1:37:49
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my concern is the one that alexis rick
1:37:53
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alluded to
1:37:56
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first of all we're facing monumental
1:37:58
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inflation during this time
1:38:03
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the east side human services forum has
1:38:05
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identified
1:38:06
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pay inequity in the human services field
1:38:09
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as one of the driving issues
1:38:11
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currently
1:38:14
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the pandemic uh exacerbated the the
1:38:17
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issue but we have relied on people in
1:38:20
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the human services field to take minimum
1:38:23
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wage salaries for a very long time
1:38:26
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and that has caught up with us and it
1:38:28
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caught up with us during the pandemic in
1:38:31
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big time
1:38:32
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and so human services organizations
1:38:35
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social service organizations are
1:38:37
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grappling with how they can begin to
1:38:40
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give people living wages
1:38:43
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and so all of that is
1:38:45
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increasing
1:38:46
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the need for additional funding
1:38:49
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and on top of that
1:38:52
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we have the high cost of living on the
1:38:54
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east side
1:38:55
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we have
1:38:56
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all of the expenses that for-profit
1:38:58
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companies
1:38:59
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face um
1:39:01
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and so i look at the formula i look at
1:39:03
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what's being proposed and i think this
1:39:05
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is
1:39:05
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this is not meeting the need and i
1:39:08
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understand that we will never as a city
1:39:11
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be able to meet all of the need
1:39:13
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but i i would urge us to make a more
1:39:16
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substantial investment
1:39:19
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in those human services grants
1:39:21
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just because our human services
1:39:25
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are facing some major major challenges
1:39:27
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right now
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the need is very great we are still in
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recovery from the pandemic
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um and all of this of that says to me
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uh that we need to do more we need to
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make a real
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increase a real investment
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in those human services grants so i'm
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going to put it out there again
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i would like to see us increase for 23
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23.24
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i mean immediately
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i'd like to see us put a hundred
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thousand dollars more
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per year in each of those
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uh budgets
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and use six hundred thousand dollars a
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year as our baseline
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for calculating the formula
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for 25 26 and going forward that's my
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proposal
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i'm certainly willing and eager to hear
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what my fellow council members have to
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say but i think if we just rely
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on the formula that's been presented
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that our investment in those human
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services grants is going to be eaten up
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completely by inflation by wage
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increases
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and by the business expenses that are
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facing
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our human services organizations in
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issaquah so that's my concern and that's
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my proposal thank you chairman
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thank you council member d michelle
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council member ray
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i have a couple thoughts on this one is
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i'm 100 supportive of
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being formula driven it just makes it
1:40:58
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easier makes it more predictable for for
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everybody i think there's a couple
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questions one is what's the baseline
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where do you start and i think that goes
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to council member d michelle's question
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and then the second is what's the
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formula going forward and i think those
1:41:11
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are two separate issues
1:41:13
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so i think we can work on a formula that
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says whatever we set the baseline at
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this is the formula we use going forward
1:41:21
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it can have an inflation component it
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can have a population component
1:41:25
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if we want to get really interesting we
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can talk about communities of need and
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how we weight that but i'd like to see
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something come back and say here's the
1:41:32
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formula and here's why we think it's the
1:41:33
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right formula and here's how it how it
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fits in um
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in terms of the baseline um i don't
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think we'll ever
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have enough i mean that's the that's the
1:41:43
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beauty of this
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line of work we all know that if you
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spend any time in it you know you're
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never going to have enough
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what's interesting is when um i think it
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was ava who
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proposed i think in 15 or something that
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it be
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established based on a per capita basis
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and it was ten dollars per capita and
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now we're 12 and a half so um that's a
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25 percent increase in in the per capita
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thing so we have escalated it so i i
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don't know what that number is but i'd
1:42:13
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like to have some basis for that number
1:42:15
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other than
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we don't have enough so to council
1:42:18
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member d michelle's point if we could
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say
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you know we expect a 10 increase in
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wages in the human services field and we
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think rent's going to be going like this
1:42:27
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but something that we can tie our star
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to and say
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it's based on something other than it's
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just a number so give me a baseline and
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make that baseline based on something
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it's a baseline and then
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propose some um factors that we can use
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going forward so cost of living
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um
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you know
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needs of the community whatever those
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factors are that we think should
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escalate over time and i think that
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would be
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uh really helpful and give us something
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we can just hang on to
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so i have a question
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what's the human services budget in 2022
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for human services grants yeah it's 500
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000 so it's five hundred thousand today
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yes
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today we have five hundred thousand but
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this proposal would hold it at five
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hundred thousand through 2024
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and then start a cpi
1:43:21
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not necessary that's up to you and your
1:43:24
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feedback um it's it
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with city
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um administrator bob kowitz's permission
1:43:30
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depending on your discussion during the
1:43:32
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budget process if you decide you have
1:43:35
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funds for that that could be added to
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2023 2024.
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student administrator yes thank you
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chairmart the the administration has no
1:43:46
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objection of applying it right now i
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think we wanted as mr guerilla said that
1:43:50
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let the council have a discussion with
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that but
1:43:54
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you know we we feel very comfortable
1:43:56
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with the formula i think council member
1:43:59
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ray's comments are very well taken and
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we have discussed them
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in his absence uh internally um and
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that's why you do not see a different
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kind of a more aggressive factor because
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we still believe we need more data um we
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think that there's there's certainly the
1:44:15
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justification for the 500 000 uh right
1:44:18
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now we think that the cost of living
1:44:20
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escalation makes sense our our sense is
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that it needs to go up even higher but
1:44:25
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we do not have the data to present to
1:44:27
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you so rather than say give us another
1:44:29
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year we're here tonight with a with a
1:44:32
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more action related proposal with the
1:44:34
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understanding that this is work will
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continue
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and i would imagine a year from now
1:44:38
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we'll be able to come perhaps even a
1:44:40
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different formula
1:44:42
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based on more data
1:44:44
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so i see your hand up bar but let me
1:44:45
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finish my my thought and then i'll come
1:44:47
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back to you um
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i guess what my thinking is that um if
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we said yeah it's 500 000 this year it's
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500 000 plus
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i would just do the cpi accelerator
1:45:02
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i think that would square the circle
1:45:04
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between both of the things that i'm
1:45:05
↗
hearing because it would address council
1:45:07
↗
member d michelle's concern that we need
1:45:10
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to get ahead of inflation or at least
1:45:12
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keep up with inflation right now
1:45:15
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and it would also
1:45:16
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um start with a with a number
1:45:19
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and uh and then i've i'm very
1:45:23
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comfortable with
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uh cpi plus uh as and then per capita as
1:45:28
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well that's long been my standard for
1:45:31
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uh expenditures and and we have seen
1:45:35
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just this week in seattle when
1:45:37
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expenditures over the long haul greatly
1:45:39
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exceed that that relationship you start
1:45:42
↗
to see drastic concerns around general
1:45:45
↗
fund shortages like they're facing 120
1:45:47
↗
million dollars this year right but i
1:45:49
↗
mean we avoid that by having smart
1:45:51
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accelerators um like this
1:45:55
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now i will call in council member g
1:45:57
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michelle
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uh thank you chairman
1:46:01
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um
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i think i think the thrust of what i was
1:46:04
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trying to say is exactly what both you
1:46:06
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and councilmember ray uh are discussing
1:46:09
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and and uh city administrator bob kowitz
1:46:12
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and that is i would really like to see
1:46:15
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us accelerate this
1:46:17
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and make sure that the baseline starting
1:46:20
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in
1:46:21
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uh 2324
1:46:23
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is
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reflective of the
1:46:26
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pressures that are on our social service
1:46:28
↗
agencies
1:46:29
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and so
1:46:31
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the councilmember ray's remarks are well
1:46:33
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taken
1:46:34
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i also like your proposal so i think we
1:46:37
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can go forward and
1:46:39
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come up with a proposal to bring back to
1:46:42
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the committee or back to the council for
1:46:45
↗
consideration
1:46:46
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i mean i'd like the three of us if we
1:46:48
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can to agree this evening to what
1:46:50
↗
proposal we'd like to bring back to the
1:46:52
↗
full council
1:46:54
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i mean
1:46:55
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how how do you feel about saying this
1:46:58
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year is what it is and and for next year
1:47:00
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we go with the cpi accelerator oh i'm
1:47:02
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all over that i actually was surprised
1:47:04
↗
that it wasn't that way
1:47:06
↗
when i was looking at the numbers i
1:47:07
↗
thought that's what we were going to
1:47:08
↗
have was the 543 or whatever that number
1:47:11
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is so i think that that makes perfect
1:47:12
↗
sense to me
1:47:14
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um
1:47:15
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but i would like to do i mean continue
1:47:16
↗
doing some digging in the future but i
1:47:18
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think for a going forward plan that
1:47:20
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works
1:47:21
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and and and i know concert council
1:47:23
↗
member d michelle you you'd really like
1:47:24
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to see a transformative uh view on how
1:47:27
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we do uh uh
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grant funding and i i think starting
1:47:32
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with this today um and then
1:47:34
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understanding that there's a sense of
1:47:36
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the body that we would love to see
1:47:39
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more data that would allow for a
1:47:41
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conversation about a transformational
1:47:43
↗
model
1:47:44
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i think would reflect the will of the
1:47:46
↗
three of us
1:47:48
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i agree and i appreciate the
1:47:50
↗
conversation um and um
1:47:53
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as city administrator bob woods
1:47:56
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indicated we may come across more data
1:47:58
↗
that gives us a better look at it
1:48:01
↗
but i think if we're in agreement that
1:48:03
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we need to do something much more
1:48:05
↗
immediately then i'm i'm fine with the
1:48:08
↗
discussion right now yeah
1:48:10
↗
so it sounds like the three of us agree
1:48:12
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um next year would be 500 000 plus uh
1:48:16
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with the implementation
1:48:17
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immediately
1:48:18
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uh
1:48:20
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for 2023 of the cpi accelerator and per
1:48:24
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capita
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right
1:48:27
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all right
1:48:28
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you have you have
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uh i'm sorry city administrator you have
1:48:33
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a quizzical look i do the per capita
1:48:35
↗
piece so
1:48:36
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is that then changing the base
1:48:39
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well if we get 10 more people
1:48:42
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next between now and next year
1:48:44
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500 000 plus cpi isn't enough
1:48:47
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right and
1:48:49
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you know if you get more people
1:48:51
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historically we've had uh
1:48:54
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you know we went with a per dollar we
1:48:56
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went with a dollar per resident with the
1:48:58
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idea being that as our city gets bigger
1:49:00
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we need more services i think taking
1:49:02
↗
this year as the starting bogey but
1:49:04
↗
saying that next year it's both cpi and
1:49:06
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population
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is what you're hearing from this body so
1:49:10
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i think was mentioned that we're 12
1:49:12
↗
dollars per head
1:49:14
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we are 12 dollars per head and if i
1:49:16
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unders understand correctly chair marks
1:49:18
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and what you're proposing is that we
1:49:20
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would add a population growth percentage
1:49:23
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so for example for us would be that
1:49:25
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would be a 0.7
1:49:27
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yes okay
1:49:29
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so there's there's two factors versus
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just one cpu cpi plus population
1:49:33
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observation growth yes
1:49:35
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sudden such that the per capita
1:49:37
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uh investiture in real dollars stays at
1:49:40
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least the at least constant to keep up
1:49:42
↗
with inflation
1:49:43
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susie umancel is watching at home and
1:49:46
↗
already texting me so i want to be sure
1:49:48
↗
that we are clear and why i mentioned
1:49:50
↗
sushi she corrected me uh the annual
1:49:53
↗
monies that we're collecting or not
1:49:55
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hundred thousand but one million eight
1:49:57
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hundred thousand so my one half of one
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percent yeah
1:50:01
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the one tenth of one percent sorry one
1:50:02
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tenth of one is one million eight
1:50:04
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hundred thousand per year so my i knew
1:50:05
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the 800 000 was stuck in my head but
1:50:07
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it's one million eight hundred thousand
1:50:08
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so thank you susie there's other things
1:50:10
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to watch on television tonight
1:50:14
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all right uh the next question is is the
1:50:17
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committee supportive of piloting the
1:50:18
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emergency housing model proposed as a
1:50:21
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targeted investment council member ray
1:50:27
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i am of multiple minds on this one um
1:50:30
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i i
1:50:32
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i have this belief when you when you
1:50:34
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have a
1:50:35
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disconnect with somebody it's generally
1:50:37
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because you're talking about different
1:50:38
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things and so
1:50:41
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i don't dispute the need i don't dispute
1:50:43
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that we're a caring community i don't
1:50:45
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dispute that
1:50:48
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we want to do better and that people
1:50:50
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need services and shelter what i'm
1:50:53
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really struggling with is what's the
1:50:54
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best and most effective way to do that
1:50:56
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and and i'm
1:50:59
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i'm i haven't been convinced tonight
1:51:01
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that the city of issaquah is more
1:51:03
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capable of providing shelter than is
1:51:06
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the king county seattle cooperative
1:51:10
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organization
1:51:12
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um we're talking 700 000
1:51:15
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um i did some quick numbers it looks
1:51:16
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like 100 million dollars that
1:51:19
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that the county is the kcrha is spending
1:51:22
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so um i'm not opposed to doing a pilot
1:51:25
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but i need to have some some confidence
1:51:27
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at the end of a pilot that you can prove
1:51:29
↗
to me that this is better than what kc
1:51:33
↗
rha could do and and and in very
1:51:36
↗
tangible terms and
1:51:38
↗
and then i wrestle with if we
1:51:40
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can serve this population are we just
1:51:43
↗
moving um the problem around and so
1:51:46
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um
1:51:47
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i'll i will support the pilot because i
1:51:49
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think you know i like trying things and
1:51:51
↗
seeing how they work but um when the
1:51:53
↗
pilot's done i i have a really high bar
1:51:56
↗
that i want you to get over to convince
1:51:57
↗
me that this was the best use of that
1:52:00
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seven hundred thousand dollars seven
1:52:01
↗
hundred thousand dollars because there's
1:52:03
↗
a lot of stuff we could do with a lot of
1:52:05
↗
people in need um that we could address
1:52:08
↗
with seven hundred thousand dollars so
1:52:09
↗
you gotta convince me that this is the
1:52:11
↗
absolute best way to do it compared to
1:52:13
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what um
1:52:14
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other um providers could do
1:52:17
↗
so that's that's kind of where i'm at on
1:52:19
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this it was it's it's it's a compelling
1:52:21
↗
argument for sure
1:52:23
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but it's uh
1:52:25
↗
i'm from missouri show me
1:52:27
↗
thank you councilmember d michelle
1:52:32
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um thank you so much chair of arts
1:52:36
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um
1:52:37
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so let me start by saying that when the
1:52:40
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council voted to
1:52:42
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capture that one-tenth one percent uh
1:52:45
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sales tax
1:52:47
↗
this was
1:52:48
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the proposal that's in front of us
1:52:50
↗
tonight was
1:52:51
↗
pretty much the dream that i had
1:52:54
↗
at that point
1:52:55
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um
1:52:57
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and the proposal that's brought been
1:52:59
↗
brought forward is actually more elegant
1:53:01
↗
than even the one i envisioned
1:53:05
↗
how
1:53:05
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i think that what the reason that um
1:53:08
↗
this was my dream
1:53:10
↗
might answer council member ray's
1:53:14
↗
thoughts
1:53:15
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about how can we do it better or why
1:53:17
↗
will this be better and the why it will
1:53:20
↗
be better is because it is here in
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issaquah
1:53:25
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and there is a mountain of research that
1:53:28
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shows that when people are homeless
1:53:31
↗
if you can keep them in their community
1:53:33
↗
and keep them with their connections and
1:53:36
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keep them
1:53:38
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close to where where they uh are
1:53:41
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currently operating and as one of our
1:53:44
↗
commentators
1:53:46
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um
1:53:46
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pointed out some of them actually have
1:53:48
↗
jobs here in issaquah and they're still
1:53:51
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homeless
1:53:52
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um
1:53:53
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the
1:53:54
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ability to continue that those contexts
1:53:58
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and that sense of community
1:54:00
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and uh so you could ask the question i
1:54:03
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think uh well you know do homeless
1:54:05
↗
people have connections in the community
1:54:08
↗
and the one illustration that i can give
1:54:10
↗
you is the night that i did my ride
1:54:12
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along with the instaquad police
1:54:14
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department
1:54:15
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officer
1:54:16
↗
and part of that we walked around
1:54:18
↗
downtown
1:54:20
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and she made contact with
1:54:22
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homeless person after homeless person
1:54:24
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after homeless person
1:54:26
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and
1:54:27
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even that small amount of contact makes
1:54:30
↗
a huge difference and then we have the
1:54:33
↗
issaquah food and clothing bank and
1:54:35
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aaron and the wonderful people that are
1:54:37
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there that provide community for people
1:54:40
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and homelessness
1:54:42
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and then we have friends of youth that
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provides
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contacts
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and
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so to force people to go to bellevue or
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to go to seattle or to go to kirkland
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and
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take them out of whatever community
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context they have
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it's just adding another level of trauma
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to what is already a traumatic situation
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so
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in that sense just by providing a place
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here
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we are doing better than the king county
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regional homelessness authority and
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alexis and mallory i have huge
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i
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i i am not at all dissing that program
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because alexis and mallory have been
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wonderful partners for a lot of our
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discussions
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but
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there is just nothing that takes the
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place of providing
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a residence
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as doug said a place to lay your head
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that is in your own community and so
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just by doing that we are doing it
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better
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than the regional network can do
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i really commend
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monica and alexis and
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the city administration for coming up
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with what again i would call a very
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elegant elegant proposal for us to
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consider and i fully fully support it so
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thank you
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thank you councilmember jimmy michelle
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i absolutely agree with council member
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ray that at the end of this pilot we'll
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want to take a really
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uh
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should the full council support it um
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we'll want to take a really good look at
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um the effects of it i mean we are one
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city not a particularly big city um in
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in a big county and seeing how
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this service impacts our own community
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and adjacent communities i think would
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be will be part of that conversation
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additionally how other cities address
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this how bellevue addresses it and and
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and snoqualmie and so forth
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um however i i have cause to be
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optimistic and there's a couple of
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things one is that um the unit cost is
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uh
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proportional to the number that i've
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heard for a long time which it's
1:56:55
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staggering but fifty thousand
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dollars per person per year is is the
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number that has been talked about in
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king county for several years now this
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is more or less right around that number
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so that tells me that at least it as a
1:57:09
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proposal that it that it projects out as
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something comparable to king county and
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there's another argument to me which is
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and it kind of relates to something that
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councilmember g michelle said you know
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with public safety we have identified
1:57:22
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for quite some time that having um the
1:57:26
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the interlocking pieces of dispatch ipd
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jail court
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is extremely valuable in responding to
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public safety i think commensurately on
1:57:35
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the housing side um when dealing with un
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with unsheltered folks and and trying to
1:57:41
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help them
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bridge their situation ipd behavioral
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health coordinator emergency housing and
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then the private services like issaquah
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food and clothing bank i have a hope
1:57:53
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that that will have a similar those
1:57:56
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interlocking pieces will have a similar
1:57:58
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ability for us to respond
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more comprehensively but i'm completely
1:58:02
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with you council member ray i you know
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there will be a natural feeling if we if
1:58:07
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if if this one tenth of one percent is
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bringing in eight one million eight
1:58:10
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hundred thousand dollars there will be
1:58:12
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and if this program is is even
1:58:14
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moderately successful there will be
1:58:16
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people wanting to consider using a
1:58:18
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larger fraction of that and that's where
1:58:20
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saying hey how has this worked will be
1:58:22
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really really important
1:58:25
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so i think we have three thumbs up on
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that one
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yep all right
1:58:32
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then we have would the committee like to
1:58:34
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recommend the administration consider
1:58:35
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something different what types of
1:58:37
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information would be helpful for the
1:58:38
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administration to bring back to the
1:58:39
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committee regarding the items proposed
1:58:41
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any additional um comments or objection
1:58:44
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a direction we want to consider not for
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me
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reggie michelle
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no i think we've talked about the type
1:58:52
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of information that would be helpful
1:58:55
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i don't know if city administrator bob
1:58:57
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kowitz would like us to define that a
1:58:59
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little bit better
1:59:01
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but
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i don't have anything
1:59:04
↗
different to for us to consider
1:59:07
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but
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i would like to know if we need to
1:59:10
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define the type of information we're
1:59:12
↗
looking for a little bit better
1:59:15
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how about it to the administrator any
1:59:17
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further clarity you're looking for from
1:59:19
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us this this evening
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uh council members members of the
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committee i think we're good for tonight
1:59:24
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um what we would like now i think with
1:59:26
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the committee's concurrence is to
1:59:28
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continue to work on this project um
1:59:31
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i think we need also to decide if this
1:59:34
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is something that you'll report out to
1:59:36
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the council as part of just a
1:59:38
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good of the order or council member
1:59:40
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reports because i if that's sufficient
1:59:42
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what we'll do is we'll move forward this
1:59:44
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will be included in the administration's
1:59:46
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proposed budget for next year
1:59:48
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and i think we can come back to the
1:59:50
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committee
1:59:51
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either late in the year
1:59:53
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or at the very beginning of next year as
1:59:54
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we're hopefully about to implement
1:59:56
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and say this is how our the framework
1:59:59
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we're looking to track the data we
2:00:00
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already collect a lot of data and i
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think
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it's not going to be
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uh too hard to add additional data
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↗
points to complement the data we're
2:00:08
↗
already collecting we already have a
2:00:10
↗
dashboard that we share with the
2:00:12
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community we can add some of those
2:00:13
↗
points so i think at this point we're
2:00:15
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good uh with the commitment that we'll
2:00:17
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come back either at the end of the year
2:00:19
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or the first of twenty three well i will
2:00:21
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certainly look forward to when you and
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the mayor and council president walsh
2:00:24
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and deputy council president hall figure
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out the budget process for the
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subgrouping year
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uh with that we have one item left this
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evening id 1162 tenant and landlord
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protection options this will also be
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presented um by ms nigrilla as well as
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hannah roberts uh human services
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coordinator
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hello thank you so much so much chairman
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oh i am
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do you have your audio on your laptop
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[Music]
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my
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i know it was working so long
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i think we should be good now
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yes yes i apologize for that
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um
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give me just a moment to open my other
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presentation and share it
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well i do that
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oh i'm
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good thank you
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yes i'm okay thank you so much that's
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very very nice
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so for this item i have the pleasure to
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have with me hannah roberts our human
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services coordinator
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who's gonna
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[Music]
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present with me tonight
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and so for this item uh council members
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um
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we are going to talk a little bit about
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some tenant and landlord protection
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options really in particular we are
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bringing for your consideration and
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seeking your direction on the tenant
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protection recommendations provided by
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art a regional
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coalition for housing
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back in april
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we received a letter from arch
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asking mayors and councils
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to consider some of the recommendations
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set forth
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to
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consider some protections
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for
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tenants
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and so for you tonight
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our questions that we are proposing to
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you are
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specifically one
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as a committee are you supportive of our
2:03:07
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recommendations the administration's
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recommendations
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or
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would you like to recommend that the
2:03:14
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city take action and adopt the
2:03:16
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recommendations for tenant protections
2:03:18
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provided by arch
2:03:20
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alternatively would you like to propose
2:03:22
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something different or take no action at
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this time
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and i'm gonna dive deeper just a little
2:03:27
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bit to explain a high level um overview
2:03:31
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of what the recommendations were uh by
2:03:34
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arch and then i would like to
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um hand it over to hannah to tell you
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and talk to you a little bit deeper
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about the outreach that we conducted and
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[Music]
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the
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[Music]
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information that we tried to gather in
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making our recommendations
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so um
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arch in in in their recommendations
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proposed uh that we as a city consider
2:04:01
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three actions
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um
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one to require landlords to provide a
2:04:06
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minimum of 120 days or 180 days notice
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when for rent increases
2:04:13
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a second one regarding late fees
2:04:17
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and that was the recommendation was to
2:04:19
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establish a cap on late fees
2:04:22
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for a late rental payments and that cap
2:04:25
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should be maintained at 1.5 of the
2:04:28
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tenant's monthly rent
2:04:31
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and then the third recommendation was to
2:04:33
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really um
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establish a cap on moving costs such as
2:04:38
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security deposits and whatnot
2:04:41
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and those should not be
2:04:43
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more than the equivalent of one month's
2:04:47
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rent
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and also to allow tenants to pay these
2:04:51
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in installments
2:04:54
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and so once we received that letter on
2:04:56
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our end uh we
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started conducting uh outreach to
2:05:02
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landlords and tenants in issaquah to
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really get their feedback and
2:05:08
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recommendations and we also did some
2:05:10
↗
research to see what other
2:05:13
↗
cities in the region especially on the
2:05:14
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east side are doing
2:05:16
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and so with that i would like to invite
2:05:18
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hannah she did an outstanding job with
2:05:20
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talking with several landlords and
2:05:22
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tenants and i would like to invite her
2:05:24
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to tell us her findings hannah welcome
2:05:29
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hi monica thank you so much and good
2:05:30
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evening council members hannah roberts
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here human services coordinator
2:05:35
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like monica said i will be presenting
2:05:37
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this evening on what we found through
2:05:40
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our engagement and outreach with
2:05:41
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issaquah landlords and tenants
2:05:44
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um so to note uh we started off with
2:05:48
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talking to our landlords in issaquah i
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reached out to 26 uh issaquah landlords
2:05:54
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and received feedback and responses from
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22 of those
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uh apartment complexes
2:06:01
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of those 22 units i think it's worth
2:06:04
↗
noting that all 22 properties had
2:06:07
↗
properties outside of issaquah in
2:06:08
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addition to their isoqua properties
2:06:12
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also worth noting uh that these
2:06:14
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properties that we interviewed 64 of
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them did not have any available units
2:06:19
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and the ones that did have available
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units
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had about one or two that they expected
2:06:25
↗
to fill in shortly i think that really
2:06:27
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speaks to the
2:06:28
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just the high demand and low supply that
2:06:30
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we are also hearing and seeing in
2:06:32
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issaquah
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and really what we wanted to do in
2:06:35
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talking to our landlords we wanted to
2:06:37
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understand what's their process which of
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their financial situations that they
2:06:42
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provide for tenants so in looking at the
2:06:45
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average moving cost what we commonly
2:06:48
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heard from landlords uh was that they
2:06:51
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were 45 application fees non-refundable
2:06:55
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there was a 25 or sorry a 250
2:06:58
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non-refundable admin fee and then 250
2:07:02
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refundable deposit
2:07:04
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and again that was a very common average
2:07:06
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that we did here
2:07:08
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in regards to late fees
2:07:10
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the range that we heard was uh between
2:07:13
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twenty five dollars and a hundred and
2:07:15
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twenty five dollars uh for a one-time
2:07:18
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late fee uh but really commonly an
2:07:20
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average we heard was seventy five
2:07:22
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dollars fee and per state washington
2:07:25
↗
law that the landlords all did report
2:07:28
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providing a 14-day notice with a payment
2:07:31
↗
plan option and i think it's also worth
2:07:33
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noting that a lot of the landlords
2:07:35
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discuss this in detail of how they do
2:07:37
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want to be trying to be accommodating to
2:07:40
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tenants and their certain circumstances
2:07:43
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um and in in addition we found that the
2:07:46
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average rent increase it really did
2:07:49
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range between um three percent and 15
2:07:54
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we even had one complex report that
2:07:56
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their increase was up to 20
2:07:58
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but on average we did see the 10 mark uh
2:08:02
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was pretty common and they um landlords
2:08:06
↗
indicated that that was determined by
2:08:08
↗
market rate which essentially is what
2:08:10
↗
are other apartment complexes going for
2:08:12
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what is the availability and what is the
2:08:14
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demand
2:08:16
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it's also worth noting here that the
2:08:19
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rent increases did occur of those 22
2:08:23
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apartment complexes 77 have implemented
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uh
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increases
2:08:29
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and that they uh the ones that have not
2:08:31
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yet do intend to by the end of the year
2:08:34
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so it is a common theme that we are
2:08:36
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seeing
2:08:39
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issaquah landlords concerns a few things
2:08:42
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that we noted here uh was the increase
2:08:45
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of operation cost so
2:08:47
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just like tenants uh landlords have been
2:08:51
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have been affected by inflation so
2:08:53
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operation cost for example a landlord
2:08:57
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reported a 60
2:08:59
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increase in insurance costs 30 percent
2:09:02
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increase in real estate taxes in the
2:09:05
↗
last two years
2:09:06
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and so that was a
2:09:08
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a common theme in addition to any
2:09:10
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general operation cost of maintenance
2:09:13
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those costs have seen as a significant
2:09:16
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increase
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so that's a major concern of the
2:09:18
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landlords as well as landlords reported
2:09:21
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i've seen an increase in tenant social
2:09:23
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service needs um so they're seeing more
2:09:26
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crisis that their tenants were
2:09:28
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experiencing not just with financial aid
2:09:30
↗
needs but with behavioral health or
2:09:32
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medical issues employment issues and so
2:09:36
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recognizing they needed to provide
2:09:38
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additional information of resources that
2:09:40
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their tenants could use outside of just
2:09:43
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financial aid
2:09:45
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and then also they recognize that
2:09:47
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tenants
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really need to have been struggling
2:09:50
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resetting their payment patterns and
2:09:53
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understanding um
2:09:55
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that they have not seen late fees or
2:09:57
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rent increases in two years and so that
2:09:59
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really is taking some time for land
2:10:02
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tenants to readjust to these patterns
2:10:05
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and then the biggest and last part of
2:10:07
↗
the recommendation um that we received
2:10:10
↗
from landlords and the needs was just
2:10:12
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consistency across
2:10:14
↗
the king county and so any
2:10:17
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amendments any changes or two policies
2:10:20
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should be across
2:10:21
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the same across the board
2:10:23
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now speaking to tenants we really wanted
2:10:26
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to engage with our residents who are
2:10:28
↗
renting in issaquah and so what we did
2:10:31
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was we conducted an online survey and we
2:10:34
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received 49 responses in addition to
2:10:36
↗
additional conversations and email
2:10:38
↗
correspondence
2:10:39
↗
and it's worth noting that uh of those
2:10:42
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49 responses 71
2:10:45
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um were behind in their rent in the last
2:10:48
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two years and utilize rental assistance
2:10:51
↗
up to 5 000
2:10:53
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was a common amount that was assisted
2:10:57
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the main issue and concerns that tenants
2:10:58
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were experiencing were
2:11:01
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essentially costs so rent increases late
2:11:04
↗
fees anything that would increase
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↗
the cost and the majority saw an up to
2:11:10
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150 in rent increase and i think it's
2:11:13
↗
worth noting that um we had a couple of
2:11:17
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residents report over 800 in rent
2:11:20
↗
increase
2:11:23
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and then ultimately the trends that we
2:11:24
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saw within our tenant and tenant
2:11:26
↗
engagement was this ongoing need for
2:11:29
↗
financial assistance so what this means
2:11:32
↗
is that we saw a tenant's needing on a
2:11:34
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month-to-month basis additional
2:11:36
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financial assistance now our community
2:11:39
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partners are typically looking
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and provide once or twice a year
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for emergency needs but really the need
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has
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increased significantly
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and then also we heard um that a lot of
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tenants are either because of the height
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of
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rental prices uh are being forced to
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move out of the area uh so if they
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received a rent increase that they
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cannot afford they start looking okay
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where else can i afford an isoqua and
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they're finding
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that those prices are more expensive
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therefore they're having to leave the
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area entirely
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and the last thing here is that the rent
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to income ratio is unrealistic they are
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finding that a lot of landlords are
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requiring the
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gross income to be
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three
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times the rent so the average
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rental is
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about 2500
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so
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having a gross income of 90 000
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is what's expected and that can be very
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challenging for a single income
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household
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so also in addition to talking to our
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landlords and our tenants at isoqua we
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wanted to see what other jurisdictions
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are doing
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you can see here auburn kenmore seattle
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unincorporated king county
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those cities have implemented similar
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arch tenant protection policies and as
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far as east side cities uh there are no
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immediate plans or acts for actions uh
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we do have kirkland and redmond who will
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be meeting in july uh for further
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discussion
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so that concludes my portion and i'll
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pass it back to monica for a summary and
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our recommendations thank you
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thank you very much hannah well done
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council members as you heard from hannah
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i think the needs are
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dire on both ends so
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on one end landlords have their own huge
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challenges
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they have their own increases in costs
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for operations
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they've been impacted by by the pandemic
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over the last couple of years as well
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and also it's worth to notice that
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many of them i believe
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about 80 percent of the landlords that
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we talked with they have also properties
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in other cities which makes it really
2:13:56
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really challenging when we consider just
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city-wide
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policies
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because if you have properties in four
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cities and you need to keep track of
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those four cities it makes it
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challenging right on the tenant side of
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course it's it's heartbreaking i think
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the biggest uh finding is that really
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tenants need financial assistance now on
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a regular basis so our rental assistance
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programs are really set up for emergency
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situations maybe somebody you know they
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have a medical need or something unusual
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happens and they need financial
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assistance worse once or twice a year
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but what we hear is that people need
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now consistent emergency financial
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assistance uh in order just
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just just to make rent right now that is
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concerning and then when we start
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discussing about just um
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uh providing uh more time when rent
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increase comes it just doesn't come
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across as genuine in really making a
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difference in in really supporting them
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or helping them right
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um
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and so that's that's why tenants really
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need um
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more support that's more impactful now
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uh
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than than than what we we see in the
2:15:11
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recommendations
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um and so because of that
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uh really um in in us trying to put our
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thinking hat on
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we would like to recommend that
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perhaps council
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at the arch
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organization level
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considers and continues to brainstorm
2:15:33
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with other cities to see if there's
2:15:35
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something that can be done
2:15:37
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jointly with other cities but more so
2:15:40
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it may be worth considering
2:15:42
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looking at
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state and federal advocacy and trying to
2:15:46
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look for options that really
2:15:49
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are more impactful one example that
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comes to mind and that's just um
2:15:54
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from from my experience in the past with
2:15:56
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with tenants who
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are on ssi or ssdi right they are on
2:16:02
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fixed incomes for multiple years
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and they can't keep up with the rent
2:16:07
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increases and so that's at federal level
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something that's decided and those
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increases are really happening every 10
2:16:14
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years or so
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could we do something to where we join
2:16:18
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other cities other regional efforts and
2:16:20
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really try to advocate for more systemic
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changes that tend to be more impactful
2:16:25
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um other than um just providing
2:16:28
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um tenants with more time when right now
2:16:32
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more time does not help them as you
2:16:34
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heard hannah
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if if they want to look for other places
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to rent there's nothing more affordable
2:16:40
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that they could find in issaquah so are
2:16:42
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we really helping them by implementing
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the measure so that's where we are
2:16:46
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coming from when when we make our
2:16:48
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recommendations
2:16:50
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and so with that i think
2:16:52
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council members the options
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tonight
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you can if you would like to support our
2:17:01
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recommendations or if you would like to
2:17:03
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consider recommending that the city
2:17:05
↗
takes action to adopt the
2:17:07
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recommendations um
2:17:09
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proposed by arch
2:17:11
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or you can perhaps um
2:17:14
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guide us to consider something else or
2:17:17
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take no action
2:17:19
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i would love to hear from you thank you
2:17:20
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so much
2:17:23
↗
first up i'll ask if there's any
2:17:24
↗
questions not from council member ray
2:17:27
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councilmember d michelle
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uh thank you
2:17:32
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chair martz
2:17:34
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when you surveyed the landlords were
2:17:37
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there were any of the
2:17:39
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landlords that you surveyed
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what we call mom and pop
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you know one house or maybe um a couple
2:17:47
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of units or were those all larger
2:17:52
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landlords you mentioned that they have
2:17:54
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multiple properties so that's
2:17:56
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i'm just wondering
2:17:58
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what the demographic of that of those
2:18:01
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that you surveyed was
2:18:03
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yeah thank you for your question
2:18:04
↗
councilmember d michelle
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um
2:18:07
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they were not mom paw type of shops or
2:18:10
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single residents they were larger
2:18:13
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units uh they were all arch apartments
2:18:16
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um were included in that i could also
2:18:19
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provide a list if you needed to
2:18:21
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but
2:18:22
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then the um there was 15 that offered
2:18:26
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affordable housing options and then a
2:18:28
↗
few who did not offer affordable housing
2:18:32
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so to follow up
2:18:34
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um
2:18:35
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i guess it was my understanding that
2:18:36
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what arch is proposing is that these
2:18:39
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proposed ordinances or regulations would
2:18:42
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be
2:18:43
↗
across the board and maybe i'm
2:18:45
↗
misunderstanding are they
2:18:47
↗
actually asking us to
2:18:50
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adopt these just for arch properties
2:18:53
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um no
2:18:54
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it it really would be across the board
2:18:56
↗
from my understanding um
2:18:59
↗
correct me if i'm wrong but yes i i
2:19:02
↗
believe it's for
2:19:03
↗
um across the board so it would affect
2:19:06
↗
not just low income housing but um
2:19:10
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yeah everyone and for market
2:19:12
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okay thank you
2:19:15
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thank you
2:19:16
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uh no other questions at this time um i
2:19:19
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am going to take public comment but
2:19:21
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before i do that i want to share the
2:19:23
↗
public comment that
2:19:25
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we've received on this issue
2:19:27
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um there really wasn't there was some
2:19:30
↗
from the earlier uh but but there wasn't
2:19:33
↗
uh it wasn't contentious uh this is this
2:19:35
↗
was quite contentious public input uh
2:19:38
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one in one public feedback was arch
2:19:40
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proposal doesn't address low and
2:19:42
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moderate income housing it asserts the
2:19:44
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legislative process more regulations are
2:19:46
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an increasing burden on landlords would
2:19:48
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be better to provide more transit
2:19:50
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on-street parking micro-unit development
2:19:53
↗
code
2:19:54
↗
another feedback was hard to predict
2:19:55
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rent six months out another was reject
2:19:58
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the administrative recommendation
2:19:59
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instead provide more safeguards
2:20:01
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including eviction protection and
2:20:03
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guaranteed legal counsel another was
2:20:05
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don't follow in seattle's footsteps it's
2:20:06
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a supply and demand problem not a policy
2:20:08
↗
problem another was don't enact rent
2:20:10
↗
control don't be seattle another was
2:20:13
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provide more renter safeguards in other
2:20:14
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words more renter protections another
2:20:17
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was past the arch recommendations so
2:20:19
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uh quite quite a bit of different
2:20:21
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feedback including from some uh
2:20:24
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organizations that represent uh you know
2:20:26
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federations of landlords and others were
2:20:30
↗
you know major landlords in the valley
2:20:33
↗
so that was the feedback now i will ask
2:20:36
↗
if there's any uh public comment uh if
2:20:38
↗
anybody's interested in providing public
2:20:40
↗
comment on this issue
2:20:42
↗
this evening either here with us or
2:20:44
↗
online
2:20:47
↗
i see at least one person here um so
2:20:49
↗
let's start with the here in the room
2:20:52
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so if you'll come up and give your name
2:20:54
↗
address and your relationship to the
2:20:55
↗
city please and then you have five
2:20:57
↗
minutes
2:20:58
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uh julian midlil i live on squawk
2:21:01
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mountain um
2:21:03
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been here for quite some time um
2:21:05
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i sent in a written comment uh
2:21:08
↗
proposing that the city council would
2:21:11
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reject the administration's
2:21:13
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request to send this up to a regional
2:21:15
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basis i just don't think we have time
2:21:18
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for that now
2:21:20
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we have a lot of you know cost living
2:21:22
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escalations i hear that in my position
2:21:24
↗
all the time people are struggling with
2:21:26
↗
the cost of living increases especially
2:21:28
↗
when it comes to gasoline and you know a
2:21:31
↗
variety of other things in their lives
2:21:33
↗
that are really escalating
2:21:35
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and so i think we need to you know make
2:21:37
↗
sure that we put these steps into place
2:21:41
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even though it doesn't have
2:21:44
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as much protection as i would like it to
2:21:46
↗
have i think we do need to consider
2:21:48
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you know
2:21:49
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legal representation and
2:21:52
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just cause eviction ordinance as well
2:21:57
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because those are just really important
2:21:58
↗
things in my opinion and we should go
2:22:00
↗
beyond that but at least we should put
2:22:02
↗
this stuff first
2:22:04
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on the table and just give the barest of
2:22:06
↗
no notice for people
2:22:08
↗
um
2:22:10
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and just
2:22:11
↗
putting it to a regional basis is just
2:22:14
↗
another delay in my opinion um let's
2:22:16
↗
consider putting you know king county or
2:22:19
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something like that
2:22:21
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for legal representation and have king
2:22:23
↗
county or a federation of the cities
2:22:26
↗
fund that but
2:22:27
↗
like i said let's just
2:22:29
↗
pass this now thank you
2:22:31
↗
thank you
2:22:33
↗
anyone else here in the room want to
2:22:35
↗
give comment this evening before we see
2:22:37
↗
if there's anybody online
2:22:40
↗
clerk do we have anyone online wishing
2:22:41
↗
to speak to this issue before we
2:22:43
↗
deliberate
2:22:44
↗
yes chair mart's
2:22:46
↗
guillermo
2:22:47
↗
guillermo rivera would like to speak to
2:22:49
↗
this topic
2:22:51
↗
guillermo i have made you a panelist you
2:22:53
↗
should see the option to unmute and you
2:22:55
↗
can turn on your video
2:22:57
↗
i think already on mute myself can you
2:22:59
↗
hear me yes we can hear you
2:23:02
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great
2:23:03
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thank you seated administrator and
2:23:05
↗
members of the council
2:23:07
↗
my name is guillermo rivera and i'm with
2:23:09
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his side for all
2:23:11
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inside for all is a racial equity and
2:23:13
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social justice organization
2:23:16
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based in east king county
2:23:18
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bike top communities in the east side
2:23:20
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have been invisible for many years in
2:23:22
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the decision making process
2:23:24
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even as bike top communities have been
2:23:26
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increasing exponentially on the east
2:23:28
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side
2:23:29
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it's time to hear from everyone that is
2:23:32
↗
part of our communities
2:23:35
↗
i'm here to talk in favor of the arts
2:23:37
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recommendation regarding tenants
2:23:40
↗
protections
2:23:41
↗
communities in the east side and
2:23:43
↗
especially in issaquah and other cities
2:23:46
↗
will be benefit with this
2:23:48
↗
we have been hearing from communities
2:23:51
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how hard is to buy houses and how hard
2:23:54
↗
is to rent houses you hear it from
2:23:56
↗
hannah
2:23:58
↗
just just a minute ago
2:24:00
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uh so
2:24:02
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people will continue renting houses for
2:24:04
↗
many years to go
2:24:06
↗
and right now we know that people have
2:24:09
↗
to move out of the city like uh
2:24:13
↗
tana
2:24:14
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and monica were saying right because the
2:24:17
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rent increases
2:24:19
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and because probably they receive a very
2:24:21
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short notice
2:24:23
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of rent increase
2:24:24
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if you get 120 days to the people that
2:24:28
↗
will benefit because they can plan
2:24:31
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for what they have to do
2:24:33
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uh to in order to pay
2:24:35
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their rent
2:24:37
↗
families they want to live where they
2:24:40
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work
2:24:41
↗
they when they go to worship
2:24:44
↗
where they get their kids to school and
2:24:46
↗
measure like these ones
2:24:48
↗
recommended in the arch letter will
2:24:50
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allow people to continue living in
2:24:52
↗
isabella
2:24:54
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keep in mind that also these measures
2:24:57
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don't benefit everyone not only
2:25:01
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people of low income
2:25:03
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every single family regardless their
2:25:05
↗
income wants to have more time when rent
2:25:08
↗
increases happen and prepare for their
2:25:11
↗
future with dignity and respect
2:25:14
↗
these recommendations are common sense
2:25:17
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and will allow renters on insula to have
2:25:20
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a play field
2:25:22
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and
2:25:23
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i mean
2:25:24
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this this will not increase
2:25:27
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operation costs for anyone and will help
2:25:29
↗
landlords to have policy consistent
2:25:32
↗
you mentioned like it's better to have
2:25:34
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like a landlords that
2:25:36
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have buildings in different cities
2:25:40
↗
let's make isa for the first city to
2:25:42
↗
take this i know that in kirkland and in
2:25:45
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redmond they're having discussions
2:25:47
↗
monica mentioned it in july so let's
2:25:50
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make issaquah the first city
2:25:52
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to change this
2:25:54
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so i ask you to consider and approve the
2:25:56
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arts recommendations
2:25:58
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and
2:26:00
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i know also that more protections are
2:26:02
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needed
2:26:03
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along
2:26:04
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with actions to make rents more
2:26:06
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affordable
2:26:08
↗
but this is like the person that was
2:26:10
↗
before me say i think it's a very good
2:26:13
↗
first step
2:26:15
↗
i appreciate your time i want to thank
2:26:17
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you for the work that you are doing
2:26:19
↗
with equity lens in issaquah thank you
2:26:21
↗
so much
2:26:24
↗
thank you for your comment
2:26:26
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clerk do we have anyone else wishing to
2:26:28
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speak
2:26:29
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virtually
2:26:32
↗
chair marks there are no other virtual
2:26:34
↗
hands raised at this time
2:26:36
↗
i'll ask one more time in the room
2:26:38
↗
not seeing anybody let's move to uh
2:26:42
↗
deliberation and i'll start with uh
2:26:44
↗
actually council member ray
2:26:48
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um
2:26:49
↗
thank you councilmember martz
2:26:52
↗
this is a tough one this is uh you know
2:26:54
↗
we have we've got the tough ones lined
2:26:56
↗
up today because there's no easy answers
2:26:58
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and um
2:27:00
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i am struck by a couple of things one is
2:27:03
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regardless of whether or not we adopt
2:27:05
↗
the arch proposal um the rent's going to
2:27:07
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be driven by market forces and
2:27:10
↗
right now we have a huge demand for
2:27:12
↗
rental spaces and we have low supply if
2:27:16
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i remember my economics class very well
2:27:18
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when that happens you see
2:27:20
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prices escalate and that's exactly what
2:27:21
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we're seeing
2:27:22
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my concern is if we go
2:27:26
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and make changes
2:27:29
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to
2:27:30
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how we
2:27:33
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manage
2:27:34
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our rental properties
2:27:36
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in issaquah it will create an um an
2:27:39
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imbalance and cities that are near us
2:27:43
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that don't have that imbalance will
2:27:44
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attract more rental properties and the
2:27:46
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price of rental properties in issaquah
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will probably escalate not reduce so
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we're not talking about rent controls
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here we're not even talking you know
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we're not talking about locking down
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rents because that's not proposed
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i i believe that the best course of
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action here is actually a regional
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approach or a state approach where we
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have a consistent set of policies
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implemented across the region so we
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don't see the migration of
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new rental properties new rental stock
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moving to
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other parts of the region so um i'm i'm
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i am supportive of the administration's
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approach our proposal to pursue regional
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state and federal um
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policies to help
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address this
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absolutely significant problem
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councilmember d michelle
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uh thank you um
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uh
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arch proposed
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three different items and i'm wondering
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if we could take those one at a time
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because i have
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different uh takes on each one of those
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um i don't know if we have a summary of
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those somewhere there it is
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um
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one thing i did want to note uh i am
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here at the association of washington
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cities in uh
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in beautiful downtown vancouver and i
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did have a conversation with
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a newcastle city council member
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uh this afternoon and he indicated that
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newcastle did take up this issue
2:29:25
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last night at their council meeting so
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we might want to check in
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with them
2:29:30
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so it is being
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discussed at a regional
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level
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by several cities but as he pointed out
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no action has been taken by anyone yet
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i really
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uh want to talk about the first one the
2:29:47
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longer notices of rent increases and
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guillermo
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really articulated well
2:29:53
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my concerns there
2:29:57
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of all of the recommendations this is
2:29:59
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the one that i feel
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and i know that uh
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uh the people that you surveyed said
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that it wouldn't help all that much
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uh you may not know this but uh for the
2:30:11
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first 25 years that i was in issaquah i
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i was a renter and
2:30:18
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i was in a situation where um
2:30:21
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and i won't go into detail it's too long
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of a story
2:30:24
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but where um
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everybody in our complex was asked to
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move and we were given two weeks
2:30:31
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notice
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to leave
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i looked it up and the state of
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washington
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has on the books a requirement of a
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30-day notice at this point
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and just having been in that situation
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uh here are some of the things that
2:30:47
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happen when um
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you're told that
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you know there's going to be a rent
2:30:52
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increase and you realize
2:30:54
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uh that you're not going to be able to
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afford that uh or for whatever other
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reason you're
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you're
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are going to have to move
2:31:03
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uh first of all you have to start
2:31:04
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looking for another place and as was
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noted in the remarks
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it's probably going to be very difficult
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to find a place in issaquah that you can
2:31:13
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rent at the same rent that you've been
2:31:15
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paying up until the increased notice
2:31:18
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occurs
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but you have to start that search
2:31:22
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if you have children in the family
2:31:24
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and you're in school
2:31:26
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and you have only 30 days
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and you can't find a place in issaquah
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you may not only have to move your
2:31:34
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children out of that school you may have
2:31:36
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to move them to a whole new district
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wherever it is that you find a living
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space
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it could affect your employment
2:31:43
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especially if you're a worker who works
2:31:46
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right here in issaquah and now you have
2:31:48
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to move away
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are you going to have to give up your
2:31:50
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job are you going to have to find
2:31:52
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another job
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there's the moving costs and if you are
2:31:56
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struggling with rent
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how are you going to pay for an
2:32:00
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expensive move
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with notification of only 30 days
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and there are a host of other things
2:32:09
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that you have to face
2:32:11
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i look at the first item
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and i think
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we are not asking landlords to forego
2:32:18
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rent increases
2:32:21
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we are not trying to control rents we
2:32:23
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are simply asking landlords
2:32:26
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to consider
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and have some consideration and to plan
2:32:31
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ahead
2:32:33
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to give people ample notice that there
2:32:35
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will be a rent increase and then those
2:32:38
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renters can decide whether they could
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live with that rent increase or not some
2:32:42
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of them will decide that they can live
2:32:44
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with it
2:32:45
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and then those who cannot who look at
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their income and realize that they're
2:32:49
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not going to be able to afford that rent
2:32:51
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anymore
2:32:52
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all we're asking is that they have ample
2:32:54
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time to do all the things that it takes
2:32:57
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to make a major move into another
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location which may be miles and miles
2:33:03
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and miles away depending on where they
2:33:05
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can find affordable
2:33:07
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housing so
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i i think that it's a reasonable thing
2:33:12
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to ask
2:33:13
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the six-month time the 180 days may be
2:33:16
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something that
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is too onerous for most landlords but
2:33:21
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120 days
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excuse me 120 um yeah 120 days
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um
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i think would be very reasonable in some
2:33:30
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people if they have to move we're not
2:33:31
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even going to take that whole four
2:33:33
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months so
2:33:35
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i i honestly don't understand why that
2:33:37
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would be a burdensome
2:33:40
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request of landlords they would simply
2:33:42
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have to plan ahead when they're going to
2:33:45
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make a rent increase and give the people
2:33:47
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who are
2:33:48
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uh renting their their households
2:33:51
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um an opportunity to do all the things
2:33:53
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that it takes to to make a major move
2:33:56
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especially if there are children in the
2:33:57
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family so
2:33:59
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i would really like to see us move
2:34:00
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forward with the first proposal thank
2:34:03
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you
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the f uh
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the first element of the arch proposal
2:34:11
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yes okay
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so
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uh
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this is a this this this is a this is a
2:34:18
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tough one i'm gonna
2:34:19
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echo chris um you know workforce housing
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has been one has been one of my two
2:34:25
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highest priorities um since the day i
2:34:27
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joined council uh a while ago and we've
2:34:30
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had some successes and and some lack of
2:34:33
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successes in getting more workforce
2:34:35
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housing um
2:34:37
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you know i actually think hearing 2 500
2:34:41
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for an 1100 square foot apartment um
2:34:44
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requiring 90k qualifying 90k qualifying
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is 80 of ami for a three to four
2:34:50
↗
person family so that actually tells me
2:34:53
↗
that the average apartment in in
2:34:55
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issaquah is actually targeting 80 to 90
2:34:58
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of ami which is not terrible and i would
2:35:01
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argue a lot better than where we were 10
2:35:03
↗
years ago which is not to say issaquah
2:35:05
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is more affordable in general it's less
2:35:07
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affordable
2:35:09
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but
2:35:10
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you know the picture on workforce
2:35:12
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housing here in our community is
2:35:14
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complicated we've built a lot of market
2:35:17
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rate in the valley um but you know i i
2:35:21
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grew up in a 750 square foot two-bedroom
2:35:24
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apartment and a 750 square foot
2:35:27
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apartment in issaquah is a lot more
2:35:28
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affordable
2:35:30
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than um
2:35:31
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you know then a
2:35:33
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1500 square foot or 1300 square foot
2:35:36
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brand new you know three bedroom two
2:35:38
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bath apartment in issaquah so it's all
2:35:39
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it's all complicated and none of it has
2:35:42
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to do with this arch proposal i'm i'm i
2:35:44
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really struggle you know arch's mission
2:35:46
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is to preserve and increase the supply
2:35:48
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of housing for low and moderate income
2:35:50
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households
2:35:51
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none of these three things have anything
2:35:53
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to do with that
2:35:55
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so
2:35:57
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i think both i guess where i'm coming
2:35:59
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from is i think both the pros and cons
2:36:01
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generally speaking of the arch proposal
2:36:03
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are overstated the pros and the benefits
2:36:06
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the community are overstated and the
2:36:08
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cons and the fears of a you know
2:36:10
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disparate housing environment by
2:36:13
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landlords
2:36:14
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i just i don't see a lot to this um i do
2:36:17
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think if you want to say as general
2:36:19
↗
pieces of policy i like councilmember g
2:36:21
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michelle's looking at these three planks
2:36:24
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i think there's probably something there
2:36:26
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in an environment where housing prices
2:36:28
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are escalating there's probably a public
2:36:31
↗
policy
2:36:33
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role for having something more than 30
2:36:36
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days notice
2:36:38
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so i sort of want to ask my two fellow
2:36:40
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council members
2:36:42
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whether we might recommend the
2:36:44
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administration come back at a future
2:36:46
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date with a proposal around 90 or 120
2:36:50
↗
days specific something that they could
2:36:52
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talk to the local landlord community
2:36:55
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about and folks in the community it's
2:36:57
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it's a much more modest proposal
2:37:00
↗
than what some folks would hope for but
2:37:03
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i i think it's probably something
2:37:05
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separate from
2:37:06
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uh affordable housing it's probably
2:37:09
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something we could consider or should
2:37:11
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consider doing as a as a council
2:37:13
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so council member ray
2:37:15
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um
2:37:17
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i don't i'm not opposed to
2:37:19
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longer notifications i'm not opposed to
2:37:22
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120 days or 90 days um what i am opposed
2:37:25
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is this qual going alone i don't want us
2:37:27
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to be
2:37:28
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the ones
2:37:29
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um on an island and where we have
2:37:31
↗
neighbors who have different sets of
2:37:33
↗
rules because as we talked about we have
2:37:36
↗
landlords who have properties in
2:37:37
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multiple cities and we have landlords
2:37:40
↗
our developers who are going to be
2:37:42
↗
contemplating where to build their next
2:37:44
↗
apartment complex and they're going to
2:37:46
↗
say well i can put it in
2:37:48
↗
snoqualmie and
2:37:51
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they have um they don't have these
2:37:53
↗
requirements or i can put in issaquah
2:37:55
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and they do have these requirements i'm
2:37:57
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going to put it in snoqualmie because
2:37:58
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i'm a market driven business person and
2:38:01
↗
i'm trying to make the best business
2:38:02
↗
decision it's a market-driven thing and
2:38:04
↗
what that does is it reduces the stock
2:38:07
↗
of rental properties in issaquah
2:38:10
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at a time when we already stated we have
2:38:12
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lots of demand and not enough supply so
2:38:15
↗
going back to economics 101 201
2:38:18
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we got a supply and we're going to see
2:38:20
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prices increase and we're trying to not
2:38:22
↗
get prices to increase right we're
2:38:24
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trying to drive prices down so it's
2:38:26
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counter it's counterproductive to what
2:38:28
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we want to accomplish
2:38:30
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that being said
2:38:31
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if we take this on regionally and we get
2:38:34
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regional concurrence that these are the
2:38:36
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regional things we want to do then we
2:38:38
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have a balanced playing field and then
2:38:40
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it's not a difference and so we now
2:38:42
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compete for that same housing stock so
2:38:46
↗
yeah great idea love it a lot i'm all
2:38:48
↗
for the concept i'm just not for the
2:38:51
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concept
2:38:52
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in issaquah alone
2:38:55
↗
council member michelle do you wish to
2:38:57
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add anything
2:39:00
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um
2:39:02
↗
remarks are well taken i guess my
2:39:04
↗
question would be if we're going to do
2:39:05
↗
it regionally how are we going to do it
2:39:08
↗
regionally
2:39:09
↗
um
2:39:11
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i you know if we spend a year trying to
2:39:13
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come up with a
2:39:14
↗
venue or a mechanism for doing that
2:39:18
↗
um are we are we going to go through the
2:39:20
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king county council are we going to
2:39:22
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go through east eastside human services
2:39:24
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forum
2:39:25
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what's what's going to be the mechanism
2:39:26
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for having that regional conversation
2:39:30
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and
2:39:30
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um
2:39:34
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you know well i have some other
2:39:36
↗
questions but they have they were paid
2:39:38
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they pertained to number two and number
2:39:39
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three so
2:39:41
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so just staying on the topic
2:39:43
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um do we have any ideas of how we would
2:39:46
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have that regional conversation i guess
2:39:48
↗
would be my question well to put it in a
2:39:50
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form that the administration could do
2:39:52
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something with maybe the three of us can
2:39:55
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agree that we would like to
2:39:58
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have the administration come back
2:40:00
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and understand uh after speaking you
2:40:04
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know after speaking with their our
2:40:06
↗
county council representatives or
2:40:08
↗
whatever what the best way to address
2:40:10
↗
this concern would be
2:40:11
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that we're all saying at this time we
2:40:14
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think that this element of the arch
2:40:15
↗
proposal while not related to affordable
2:40:18
↗
housing is something that we'd like to
2:40:21
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find out more about and and you know
2:40:25
↗
ask our county council right we have a
2:40:27
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relatively new council and you know they
2:40:29
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may have uh
2:40:31
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this may be something that's already on
2:40:32
↗
their plate
2:40:34
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um oops the city administrator would
2:40:36
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like to i think councilman
2:40:39
↗
councilmember jim michelle
2:40:41
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i just i just want to say i agree in
2:40:43
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some ways i think there's uh
2:40:45
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this has been mislabeled as a renter
2:40:48
↗
protection
2:40:49
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and uh when you look i i totally agree
2:40:52
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with you that if you look at the
2:40:54
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proposals
2:40:55
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there really isn't uh a renter
2:40:58
↗
protection here
2:41:00
↗
uh it does not uh you know doesn't stop
2:41:03
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rent increases it doesn't
2:41:05
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mandate that no uh late rental penalties
2:41:08
↗
are applied uh it doesn't do any of that
2:41:11
↗
that would uh make a difference and so i
2:41:14
↗
i want to acknowledge that the staff
2:41:17
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is also saying in a probably a more
2:41:19
↗
diplomatic way than what we're saying it
2:41:21
↗
but
2:41:22
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but um this is really not a renter
2:41:25
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protection
2:41:26
↗
uh proposal uh in the in that it doesn't
2:41:29
↗
really do much
2:41:31
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uh in the way of protecting renters so i
2:41:34
↗
just want to
2:41:36
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i just wanted to follow up on that
2:41:37
↗
comment that you made so
2:41:40
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thank you
2:41:41
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thanks the city administrator uh thank
2:41:44
↗
you chair martz
2:41:46
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all of our neighbors are having similar
2:41:47
↗
conversations
2:41:48
↗
all of our neighbors are trying to
2:41:50
↗
grapple with this i think
2:41:52
↗
you know all thoughtful people council
2:41:54
↗
members and other communities all facing
2:41:56
↗
similar concerns i think everyone is is
2:41:59
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trying to sort this out um
2:42:03
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i think my suggestion to the committee
2:42:05
↗
would be if you are interested in this
2:42:07
↗
topic
2:42:08
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you know perhaps ask the administration
2:42:10
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to come back at your next meeting we
2:42:12
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will know more i think has been
2:42:13
↗
mentioned a few communities are meeting
2:42:16
↗
over the next couple weeks some have met
2:42:19
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i guess
2:42:20
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one as recently as last night
2:42:22
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people have been calling us in this
2:42:23
↗
squad when they saw this was on the
2:42:25
↗
agenda what are you doing what are you
2:42:26
↗
recommending
2:42:28
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there's just a lot of interest
2:42:30
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so perhaps
2:42:31
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we could come back
2:42:32
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report what other communities are
2:42:34
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thinking about we can share with other
2:42:36
↗
communities
2:42:37
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that of these particular components the
2:42:40
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uh the longer notices is one that sort
2:42:42
↗
of resonates at least with a city
2:42:43
↗
council committee here in issaquah
2:42:46
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and then perhaps talks more
2:42:48
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next month
2:42:51
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i i think it's going to be difficult to
2:42:52
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get
2:42:53
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a regional coalition going
2:42:56
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uh in any kind of substantive way
2:42:58
↗
anytime soon i think councilmember d
2:42:59
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michelle is right that it's just
2:43:01
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just very difficult to do that the
2:43:03
↗
realities of the calendar the summer
2:43:06
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most of the regional bodies take time
2:43:08
↗
off
2:43:09
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but i think we could come back at your
2:43:10
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july meeting and at least provide an
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update and if that makes sense to talk
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more we could talk more and i will point
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out that when the county wants to do
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something like for instance running a
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bond or a levy they can ram it through
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in about two weeks
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so if they decided they wanted if they
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decided they had some
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some uh gumption on this issue uh they
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could they they could move pretty
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quickly they've showed
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and i don't know that we have seen
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gumption
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well they have well they they've just
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been accounted
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for right they just rammed the levy
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through uh so and and and
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absolutely but
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our our sister cities i think are all
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trying to be thoughtful on this topic
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with all the various issues that have
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been raised tonight um i think we'll
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have more information a month from now
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uh we can share that and we can also do
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you know my concern on the legal notices
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is enforcement
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that we will i'm sure have landlords
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that say
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i don't care what
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issaquah says i have rights i'm going to
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do what i want to do
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the tenant comes to us and says well
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this is why you passed an ordinance i
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have a landlord who's forcing me to pay
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more rent what are you going to do with
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so i would also want the city attorney's
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office to be able to come back and opine
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what their thoughts are
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as far as litigation against the city on
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whatever point land landlord or
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landlords may wish and then what
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obligations do we have then to support
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issaquah tenants if those landlords are
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saying we don't care
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this is what it's going to be so i we
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could certainly do
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those things to a certain degree between
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now and the committee's july meeting
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council member michelle how do you feel
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about that
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yeah i
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appreciate
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city administrator bob kwitz's comments
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um
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i
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i think we need more information and we
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need we probably need more dialogue
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um and maybe we can
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contact some of our council colleagues
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in other cities and and see where
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they're at and and i think maybe coming
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back to the committee
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next month would be a very excellent
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idea so
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yes
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thank you council member right
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absolutely
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make one comment though um just because
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the city administrator brought up
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kind of the legal aspects of this and
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what where our guard rails are and what
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we can and can't do under state law
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would be also extremely important to
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have some insights into so if we could
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get the city attorney to opine on that
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that would be very helpful at the next
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meeting
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all right uh are we through our
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questions ms negrilla do you have
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everything you need from us
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i believe so thank you so much um
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i think the only if i remember correctly
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council member michelle said that she
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had additional questions i'm not sure if
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yes i'm sorry councilmember jim michelle
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yeah thank you for the reminder because
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i forgot that i had additional questions
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um hannah
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when you were surveying you know we
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always hear that
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uh thing about uh first and last month
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rent and i didn't see
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on there so in addition to the move-in
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costs that you were talking about do
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they also have to pay first and last
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month's rent um as they're coming in
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when they're renting an apartment
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yeah thank you for clarifying that so
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um commonly we did not hear first and
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last wrench was required uh what we did
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here was that uh the pro-rated amount
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was required so if they moved in
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mid-month and they would owe
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um half of the rent for example um so so
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actually that was not a common theme of
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first and last if there was a need for
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first since last it may be resulted to a
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low credit score or low income but
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commonly
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in speaking to the landlords that was
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not the requirement for moving costs
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thank you
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yeah thank you for that and yeah just a
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piece of information that i would like
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to have right now so thank you so much i
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appreciate that
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and that was all my questions uh chair
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mark thank you council member
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well
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it's two and a half
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you know your estimate was exceedingly
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accurate the estimate was two and a half
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hours and those and those estimates have
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historically been quite optimistic but
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we're at two hours 45 minutes or two
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hours 48 minutes uh so so good estimate
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on it um i just um
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i just want to say um this has been
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extraordinarily uh
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rich conversation with the public and
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with the administration and with each
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other and i'm i'm looking forward to
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this committee's continued work any
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closing comments or thoughts
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councilmember wright
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this is completely unrelated to the
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topic but very much related to the
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committee structure it's a great
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committee really happy to have
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committees back
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this was uh i thought a really rich
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conversation i'm just excited to be part
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of this
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council council member d michelle
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plus one i think this was a great
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conversation we had a chance to really
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explore with each other
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and uh i'm looking forward to our future
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i'm calling it the zippy committee but
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i will call it ship
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so i'm looking forward to future zip
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meetings there we go
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um any uh any further
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business from the administration before
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we uh
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adjourn i see none uh thank you members
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of the public and we are adjourned at 9
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19.
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Attendance
Council / Members (3)
Tola Marts
Chris Reh
Barbara de Michele
Staff (2)
Wally Bobkiewicz, City Administrator
Chris Grabowski, Deputy City Clerk