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Monday, November 1, 2021

7:00 PM · 2h 4m
Topics tracked across meetings:
Memorandum of Understanding with Teamsters 117 representing Police Sergeants Ratify AB 8276 1/2
Memorandum of Understanding with Teamsters 117 representing Police Commanders Ratify AB 8277 1/2
Proposed 2022 Budget: Levy & Revenue Sources AB 8199 2/2
Proposed 2022 Budget: Revenue Sources - Utility Tax for Sammamish Plateau Water District Customers AB 8247 2/2
Proposed 2022 Budget: Revenue Sources - Amending Community Planning and Development Fees AB 8231 2/2
Section
Topic
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a
First for Roll Call Vote: Councilmember Walsh
6. CONSENT CALENDAR
6b
Minutes: City Council Regular Meeting, Oct. 4, 2021
Approve · packet pp.37–41
Staff report:
CONSENT CALENDAR b) 10-04-21 City Council Regular Meeting Minutes Page (0000) CITY OF ISSAQUAH City Council Regular Meeting 7:00 PM Virtual Meeting October 4, 2021 MINUTES
6c
Senior Center Roof Replacement Project AB 8104
Accept Project · packet pp.43
Staff report:
Accept the completion of the 2021 Senior Center Roof Project and authorize the release of the retainage.
6d
Memorandum of Understanding with Issaquah Police Officers Association Ratify AB 8244
packet pp.45–49
Topics: Public Safety
Staff report:
The City and the IPOA--representing police officers and corporals--have an existing collective bargaining agreement ("CBA") in place that is set to expire at the end of 2022. The MOU proposed herein creates a short-term referral, retention, and training incentive program that will expire in line with expiration of the current CBA.
7. REGULAR BUSINESS
7a
King County Regional Homelessness Authority Agreement for Housing Vouchers AB 8282
Carried 7-0
Authorize · packet pp.51–63
Topics: Housing
Staff report:
Under the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA), in response to the public health and economic crisis caused by the COVID- 19 pandemic, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) allocated Emergency Housing Vouchers (EHV) to the public housing agencies (PHAs) in King County, including King County Housing Authority, the Seattle Housing Authority, and the Renton Housing Authority, in collaboration with the King County Regional Homelessness Authority (KCRHA). A total of 1,314 federally funded emergency housing vouchers (EHVS) were allocated to King County under this program.
Roll call:
Moved by (main motion as amended) · seconded by
In favor: Barbara de Michele, Stacy Goodman, Zach Hall, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh
7b
Proposed 2022 Budget: Levy & Revenue Sources AB 8199
Carried 7-0
Adopt Ordinance · packet pp.65–81
Topics: Land UseBudget
Staff report:
The City's authority to impose a property tax is derived from the Washington State Constitution and described in the Revised Code of Washington (RCW) Chapters 84.52 and 84.55. The revenues from property tax are considered general government revenues. That means that this money is placed in the General Fund and can be used for any basic governmental service or goods such as public safety, planning, parks, or administration.
Roll call:
Moved by HUNT · seconded by REH
In favor: Barbara de Michele, Stacy Goodman, Zach Hall, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh
7c
Proposed 2022 Budget: Revenue Sources - Utility Tax for Sammamish Plateau Water District Customers AB 8247
Carried 7-0
Adopt Ordinance · packet pp.83–88
Topics: Land UseWaterBudget
Staff report:
The State empowers cities and towns to levy utility taxes through the same general authority that allows the collection of the business and occupation (B&O) tax. It is important to distinguish the difference between utility rates and utility tax rates. While utility rates support the utilities themselves, utility tax revenues accrue to the General Fund and can be used for general government purposes. Utility taxes are levied upon the gross operating revenues of both public and private utilities and are typically passed directly onto the rate payers by the utilities themselves.
Roll call:
Moved by HUNT · seconded by REH
In favor: Barbara de Michele, Stacy Goodman, Zach Hall, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh
7d
Proposed 2022 Budget: Revenue Sources - Amending Community Planning and Development Fees AB 8231
Adopt Ordinance · packet pp.89–104
Topics: Land UseBudget
Staff report:
Permitting fees are adopted in the Issaquah Municipal Code (IMC) 3.64 and 16.04. IMC 3.64 establishes land use and site work permit fees and the fees for building/plumbing/mechanical permits and inspections are in the Construction Administrative Code in IMC 16.04.
7e
Performance Measurements AB 8251
Approve · packet pp.105–148
Staff report:
In November 2020, the City Council adopted a performance measurement plan which included citywide performance measures that would better align the City’s actions and resource allocation to its Strategic Plan. Over the course of 2021, department staff sought to collect both historical and current (2020) data on these measures, as well as establish systems for data collection for measures the City had not previously tracked in any way. This yearlong process uncovered various challenges, including limitations in data collection and measurement relevancy.
8. GOOD OF THE ORDER
8a
Upcoming Council Meetings
0:21 welcome everyone i'm going to call the
0:23 november first city council meeting to
0:25 order due to the governor's proclamation
0:27 20-28 relating to the covet 19 emergency
0:31 and open public meetings this meeting is
0:33 being held remotely
0:35 at this point we'll take a moment to
0:37 take roll call of the council members in
0:39 attendance so please stay up here when i
0:41 call your name council member d michelle
0:43 here
0:45 council member goodman here
0:47 councilmember hall
0:48 here
0:49 council president hunt
0:51 here
0:52 council member martz
0:54 yeah
0:55 deputy council president ray here and
0:58 council member walsh
1:00 here
1:01 thank you that's all seven in attendance
1:03 this evening
1:04 the next item on our agenda is the
1:05 pledge of allegiance and if you could
1:07 all put yourself unmute i would
1:09 encourage you to join me in the pledge
1:12 i pledge allegiance to the flag of the
1:14 united states of america and to the
1:17 republic for which it stands one nation
1:20 under god indivisible with liberty and
1:23 justice for all
1:26 thank you
1:27 the next item on the agenda this evening
1:29 is audience comments and for those of
1:31 you who submitted the online form to
1:33 make comments your name will be called
1:35 shortly for those who have joined us
1:37 tonight and would like to make comments
1:39 but did not sign up in advance please
1:41 raise your virtual hand
1:43 if you're on the phone that might mean
1:44 pressing star 3 if you have joined by a
1:47 computer or smartphone look for a hand
1:49 icon this varies by device
1:52 one option may be to go to the
1:54 participant panel and choose the raise
1:56 hand icon in the lower right hand corner
1:59 city clark has anyone signed up for
2:00 comments this evening
2:02 yes
2:04 thank you i'll read a few guidelines
2:05 before we start
2:07 for those making comments tonight please
2:09 direct your comments to the whole
2:10 council and not individuals and while
2:12 this is not a question and answer
2:14 session we will contact you to follow up
2:17 if needed
2:18 when you are recognized unmute your
2:20 microphone state your name address and
2:24 relationship to the city
2:26 think clearly and pause frequently
2:28 please limit your comments to five
2:30 minutes and re-mute your microphone when
2:32 you are done
2:34 if you do not respond after your name or
2:36 phone number is called or if your
2:37 connection is lost unexpectedly the
2:40 meeting will still need to proceed and
2:41 you are encouraged to rejoin the meeting
2:43 if able
2:45 personal attacks obscene language and
2:46 derogatory remarks and disruptive
2:49 behavior will not be permitted
2:51 resident comments written and verbal are
2:54 an important aspect of the public
2:55 process and the city takes these
2:57 comments seriously we thank you for
2:59 taking the time to address us
3:01 city clerk can you please identify the
3:03 first person who signed up to speak this
3:05 evening
3:10 yes the first person who has signed up
3:11 to speak is jonathan smith jonathan in
3:14 just a moment i'll make you a panelist
3:16 you'll then have the option to unmute
3:18 and may also turn your video on
3:29 have the
3:30 floor
3:32 uh thank you
3:33 my name is jonathan smith can you hear
3:35 me okay
3:36 we can hear you great thank you jonathan
3:38 okay thank you um i'm an issaquah
3:41 resident i've lived here for about 28
3:43 years
3:45 been working from home for the last uh
3:47 18 months or so maybe two years um
3:51 i've been picking up trash in the
3:52 community um during my dog walks and my
3:55 uh lunch breaks and um
3:57 i've noticed it's it's just a
3:59 never-ending problem
4:01 uh the areas that i pick up are
4:03 primarily in the business district
4:04 around
4:05 target and trader joe's
4:07 uh down to the uh transit center
4:10 and in between i also pick up trash
4:13 around
4:14 costco and
4:16 lowe's as well as
4:18 the parks tibbetts park and
4:21 lake samama state park
4:24 i've decided i can't solve this problem
4:26 by myself i need to get some community
4:28 involvement so what i'm doing is i've
4:32 i'm planning and organizing um monthly
4:36 community litter pickup events
4:38 i've talked to a few of you about this
4:40 already zach hall for sure and mary lou
4:44 and others i've actually
4:46 gone a little higher than that i've gone
4:48 um up to
4:50 the county council as well as
4:54 the state representatives on some some
4:56 bigger issues but here in issaquah i
4:59 want to pick up litter um i'm planning
5:01 to organize monthly events the first
5:03 saturday of every month um beginning
5:06 this uh first saturday of november
5:09 my plan is to
5:12 make this a very low tech
5:14 event
5:15 i'm asking
5:17 people to volunteer
5:18 i've
5:20 posted a an announcement on nextdoor as
5:23 well as on the trash mob website
5:27 for this event
5:28 so the idea is you pick up trash you
5:31 take a walk with a purpose that's what i
5:33 call it take a walk with a purpose
5:36 you bring your own bag and your own
5:37 gloves and you pick up trash and then
5:39 you dispose of it after the event
5:41 um i will be um at um top pot donuts at
5:46 10 o'clock on saturday to meet other
5:48 community members
5:50 to collect their um
5:52 to collect their uh just comments and
5:55 and thoughts for the next event but my
5:57 plan is to rotate around the different
5:59 coffee shops in uh
6:02 coffee shops and donut places in
6:04 issaquah
6:05 the first saturday of every month so i'm
6:08 bringing it to this uh audience just so
6:10 that you'll know that what i'm doing
6:12 i'm typically wearing an ohio state
6:14 buckeye sweatshirt
6:16 i want you to know that i'm not a crazy
6:19 crazy maniac
6:21 but i am out there trying to do
6:22 something for our community and i'm
6:24 trying to inspire others to do the
6:25 things do that as well
6:27 i've also recently talked with the boy
6:30 scouts
6:32 and i may try to link in some high
6:34 school students as well
6:36 so we will pick up trash um and we will
6:39 dispose of it um
6:41 after the event um
6:44 and i'm asking the individuals just to
6:47 be you know be
6:50 you know be smart and be safe
6:53 and um pick up it and dispose of trash
6:56 i'm not i do not want people to pick up
6:59 bags of trash and just leave them around
7:00 the city
7:02 so we'll pick them up and we'll toss
7:04 them in either the existing trash cans
7:07 around the town or the dumpsters at the
7:10 parks
7:11 and
7:12 hoping that i can get some
7:14 council people to participate in the
7:16 future or if you could communicate this
7:18 out um
7:19 through uh
7:21 other word of mouth or whatever
7:23 to get other community members involved
7:26 that's it and i'm done talking thank you
7:29 thank you jonathan it's been a pleasure
7:32 to get to know you and it's just so
7:34 awesome that you're doing this and trash
7:36 mob as well so thank you very much for
7:38 coming and talking tonight
7:40 city clerk do we have anyone else signed
7:42 up this evening
7:44 yes next we have david bush david in
7:47 just a moment i'll make you a panelist
7:49 you'll then have the option to unmute
7:50 and can also choose to turn your video
7:55 actually i see that i'm not able to move
7:57 you up as a panelist so you won't have a
8:00 video option but i will go ahead and
8:01 unmute you now
8:08 david you have the floor
8:10 uh can you hear me
8:12 yes
8:13 okay
8:16 i'm david bush i live at 985 mountain
8:19 park boulevard
8:21 i've been a
8:23 president of issaquah going on 30 years
8:25 next
8:27 march
8:28 i also serve as a commissioner on the
8:31 civil service commission
8:33 i was
8:35 most disappointed last week to learn
8:37 that
8:38 our
8:39 former chief of police
8:42 scott bierbaum has resigned
8:45 and
8:46 learned that we currently have a
8:49 temporary or a acting
8:52 chief of police and commander schwann
8:56 the
8:57 current
8:59 city
9:01 police department
9:03 has a total of 37 civil service
9:06 positions including commanders corporals
9:10 sergeants and patrol officers
9:13 we currently have eight vacancies in
9:16 those positions two commanders one
9:18 corporal
9:19 and five officers as of thursday we will
9:23 be losing one more corporal for a total
9:26 of nine vacancies
9:28 when i joined the civil service in 1999
9:32 and this goes back to when dad garrison
9:35 was still the chief of police
9:38 there were 33 total
9:41 officers in the escort police department
9:44 including dag who was covered by civil
9:46 service at the time
9:49 we currently have less than that
9:52 in our police department as of today
9:56 and the issaquah population has grown
10:00 substantially since that time
10:03 i'm
10:04 very concerned of the current situation
10:07 and that our police department
10:10 is at the point of unraveling with
10:13 the number of people that are
10:16 leaving have left
10:18 we have currently four
10:21 entry-level officers
10:23 they will be officers eventually
10:26 current
10:27 officer
10:28 candidates who have accepted the
10:29 position
10:31 that position requires that they go
10:34 through the state
10:36 academy which is a two plus month course
10:40 and they also have to go through about
10:41 six months of field training
10:44 and it's a good year before one of those
10:48 entry-level officers will actually
10:51 be a full police officer
10:55 in addition
10:56 the on-the-job training is done by an
11:00 existing officer so training those
11:02 officers ties up
11:04 even more
11:06 of our officers times
11:08 i'm
11:10 most concerned that
11:12 we do not lose
11:14 any more
11:15 officers in our department
11:18 and i want to
11:20 encourage the city council
11:24 to look at
11:25 incentive programs for retaining
11:28 officers for promoting officers for
11:30 hiring officers
11:33 in the next year and a half and i
11:35 understand that there is a proposal
11:37 that would
11:39 try to accomplish that our officers
11:42 currently are over
11:44 worked in terms of how much they have to
11:47 cover
11:49 and
11:50 the
11:51 number of officers that are not
11:53 available to do that coverage
11:58 i'm speaking tonight
12:00 as a member of the
12:02 civil service commission and as a member
12:04 of the
12:05 issaquah community
12:07 and asking you to
12:09 take into account the
12:11 idea that we need to promote
12:14 whatever we can do to retain
12:16 and encourage
12:18 hiring within the issaquah police
12:20 department
12:22 and
12:22 i want to say one thing and that is that
12:26 uh we
12:27 were well served over the past 26 years
12:29 by the former chief scott bierbaum who
12:32 was left
12:34 respect him
12:35 uh i can imagine that uh
12:38 it's
12:39 to the point where
12:41 he's uh
12:42 certainly
12:44 going to be looking for something less
12:46 stressful to do
12:47 and i certainly want to encourage
12:50 commander schwann
12:54 give everyone within the department and
12:56 the city commission their city council
12:59 her
13:01 i want everyone to give her the greatest
13:03 support possible
13:05 thank you
13:07 david thank you for your comments and
13:09 thank you for your service we appreciate
13:11 it very much
13:12 city clerk is there anyone else who
13:14 would like to provide public comments
13:15 this evening
13:17 yes elizabeth ma pen elizabeth in just a
13:20 moment i'll make you a panelist you'll
13:22 then have the option to unmute and can
13:24 choose to turn your video on
13:26 actually i'm seeing that i'm also not
13:28 able to
13:29 move you up so i will go ahead and
13:31 unmute you now
13:35 you have the floor
13:41 elizabeth i'm going to unmute you now
13:45 can you hear me now
13:46 yes thank you
13:48 i wanted to
13:50 comment on the proposal to get emergency
13:54 housing vouchers
13:59 we have a number of people in issaquah
14:04 on the outskirts of town
14:06 who really could use housing
14:10 housing people makes a huge difference
14:13 in their lives
14:15 and i hope you will do everything you
14:17 can to secure as many of those vouchers
14:20 as possible
14:22 it really makes a difference if people
14:25 can be housed
14:28 thank
14:28 you
14:30 thank you elizabeth
14:32 today clerk is there anyone else wishing
14:34 to speak this evening
14:35 yes connie marsh
14:38 bonnie in just a moment i'll make you a
14:40 panelist so that you can unmute and
14:42 choose to turn your video on
14:57 so i'm connie marsh and i live up on
14:59 squawk
15:01 and i suppose the first thing i want to
15:04 say is
15:05 uh as exemplified by this meeting the
15:08 the
15:09 video sessions are fascinating because
15:12 they're uneven
15:13 sometimes
15:16 sometimes they work and sometimes they
15:18 don't sometimes it takes a half an hour
15:20 for people to be able to join
15:22 and sometimes they get on video and
15:24 sometimes they don't
15:26 i don't know how to solve that
15:30 problem
15:32 but um
15:34 i'm not sure from committee to
15:36 commission that everyone knows how
15:38 uneven it it all
15:42 is and how frustrating it can be for us
15:45 out here i have no idea why i can be on
15:48 video and other people can't it's like
15:50 the gremlins in the machine
15:53 so then the next step i suppose is to
15:55 talk a little bit about history um
15:59 we have
16:00 no longer have most of our department
16:04 heads that would work here long term
16:07 and so what i am seeing in some of the
16:09 conversations that are coming up in the
16:11 different commissions
16:13 is that
16:14 we are
16:16 uh redoing the things that we have done
16:18 three and four times
16:22 uh as if it is new
16:24 and
16:26 you know
16:27 we have gone through the esqua highlands
16:29 we've gone through this we've gone
16:31 through the central issaquah plan
16:33 and
16:34 can you all hear me you're all
16:36 okay good um
16:38 and we have gone through a redo of the
16:41 central issaquah plan yet many of the
16:43 conversations i'm hearing within the
16:45 commissions
16:47 make it sound like they have no idea
16:49 that we have this
16:51 basically 15 to 20 year history of
16:55 having the same conversation over and
16:57 over
16:59 uh i am seeking a way to bring
17:02 people
17:03 especially the community up to date on
17:05 what we have already done so that we
17:08 don't spend a heck of a lot of time
17:10 having the same conversation about wow
17:12 how do we achieve mixed use
17:14 how do we increase density how do we try
17:17 to make it so people don't have to drive
17:19 we've had these conversations and we
17:22 have tried to solve them already with
17:25 our central ascot plan we tried to solve
17:27 them before
17:28 with the isqua islands
17:30 and maybe the conversation should be
17:34 why is it that we don't seem to be
17:36 achieving success in those things that
17:38 we have already said that we have solved
17:41 and
17:43 and uh to take a lot of time up to do it
17:46 again
17:48 i guess because i've seen it three or
17:49 four times already
17:51 makes me crazy makes me impatient and
17:53 then makes me grumpy and then i yell at
17:55 corey and then you know we go down
17:58 the invariable weeds but i'd never kick
18:00 the dogs right i never kicked the dogs
18:03 so then i i want to move on to garbage
18:06 pickup because it's sort of the same
18:08 thing
18:09 for years barbara shelton picked up
18:11 garbage because there was nobody picking
18:14 up garbage there's still
18:15 nobody picking up garbage and so the
18:18 question is is
18:21 so should some random guy
18:23 have to
18:24 pick up
18:26 the picking up garbage theme like i
18:29 picked up the weed theme and janet has
18:31 the weed theme right
18:33 and maybe we should maybe that's the
18:35 only way to get it done but it does seem
18:38 like we know it's a problem it's been a
18:40 problem for a very long time that we
18:42 have litter yet it takes a guy
18:45 having to motivate
18:47 to get the problem
18:49 even identified and then potentially
18:52 solved after a while he's going to get
18:54 tired and he's going to stop and we'll
18:56 have the problem again
18:58 so how do we stop with the endless
19:01 loop
19:03 and instead actually create situations
19:07 that
19:08 solves some of our problems
19:11 uh more long term
19:14 because now we actually have
19:17 uh processes
19:19 and procedures in place to have them
19:22 solved in advance now
19:24 the police
19:27 i don't blame
19:29 the police
19:30 for degrading because for some reason in
19:33 our social equity conversations
19:37 we have made police to be villains
19:40 and most of our police are heroes not
19:43 villains
19:44 and we spend very little time talking
19:46 about how hard it is to walk out every
19:49 day
19:50 and not know the situations that you are
19:52 going to be getting into and try to
19:54 react in the huma most humane way
19:56 possible
19:58 who would want to live with that job on
20:00 a daily basis and then your response is
20:04 to be vilified
20:06 now there are villains but there are
20:09 also heroes and if we get too occupied
20:11 with pointing at every potential hero as
20:14 a villain we are doing harm to our
20:18 community
20:20 um how do we change the tone of the
20:23 conversation with our social services
20:28 to provide more heroes and fewer
20:31 villains
20:34 you know
20:36 our our life could be fun
20:40 but
20:41 we allow for very little fun and
20:43 celebration in this city
20:46 we don't have giddy parades
20:49 we have meetings
20:52 connie
20:53 gotta go
20:54 we got it
20:56 but you know that was an exclamation
20:57 point at the end giddy
21:00 fight
21:02 that's a good exclamation point thank
21:04 you very much i've also been asked why
21:06 we don't have um
21:08 i think it was this weekend um moms
21:10 dressed up as witches in the hawaii at
21:12 the halloween bicycle parade so you're
21:14 right more fun more fun
21:17 um city clerk checking in to see if we
21:18 have anyone else
21:20 wanting to speak to the council this
21:22 evening
21:24 mayor there are a few other members of
21:26 the public on the call real quickly if
21:28 anyone else wishes to speak please raise
21:30 your virtual hand
21:34 press star 3 on your phone or find the
21:36 small hand icon
21:42 and it doesn't appear that anyone else
21:44 wishes to speak
21:45 right well thank you very much to those
21:47 that did come in and speak tonight we
21:49 heard a couple people talk about
21:50 volunteers and picking up trash in
21:52 issaquah
21:54 uh we also heard about uh let me get my
21:57 notes in order concerns over levels of
21:59 staffing in the police department and
22:01 looking
22:03 in favor comments a proposal for
22:05 incentives for retention and recruitment
22:08 as well as resolving the conflicts
22:10 between some of our social servicing
22:12 messaging and our policing messaging
22:14 that's out in the community
22:17 we also heard
22:18 residents speak in favor of emergency
22:21 housing voucher proposals
22:23 and comments about how video sessions
22:26 can create some unequal levels of
22:28 participation
22:29 that changes in leadership in the city
22:32 means we sometimes lose our story and we
22:34 have to present our history back over
22:36 again
22:38 so how do we bring people up to date
22:42 thank you very much for all of those
22:44 that came in and spoke this evening
22:47 as a reminder uh for those who would
22:49 like to contact their council and their
22:51 mayor you can always send in your
22:53 comments
22:54 the city council at isabella.gov
22:57 and i want to check in now with council
22:59 president hunt to see if there were any
23:00 emails or comments to summarize that
23:04 council may have received on tonight's
23:05 agenda topics
23:07 thank you mayor paulie we did receive
23:10 an email and i have been summarizing
23:12 emails comments that we received that
23:14 specifically reference agenda items on
23:17 our agendas
23:18 so for this evening we received an email
23:20 that referenced multiple items on our
23:22 agenda
23:23 including comments on
23:25 ab8251 which is
23:28 regarding performance measures and
23:30 this resident commented with concern
23:33 about the measure for how long it takes
23:34 a personal vehicle to travel city end to
23:37 end
23:38 and commented that
23:40 they thought
23:42 the city should be measuring things that
23:43 it can directly influence and should
23:45 focus on those things which was the
23:47 reason for the concern with that metric
23:50 then also multiple comments on the
23:53 proposed 2022 budget levy and revenue
23:56 sources of which we have several agenda
23:59 items related to this this evening
24:01 including ab-8199
24:03 ab-8247-8231
24:07 this resident was in favor of the one
24:08 percent property tax increase as
24:10 presented and in favor of the utility
24:13 tax for the samanas plateau water
24:15 district customers as presented in that
24:17 ordinance
24:19 and then had additional comments on the
24:21 community planning and development fees
24:23 but did agree with the
24:25 increase there and that concludes
24:27 comments that specifically reference
24:29 items on our agenda this evening thank
24:30 you
24:34 thank you council president hunt we'll
24:35 move on to our regional
24:39 time with my cursor this evening uh our
24:42 committee and regional reports and we'll
24:43 start off with councilmember hall
24:47 thank you this is councilmember zach
24:48 paul just a quick um update with my
24:51 growth management planning council
24:53 affordable housing committee
24:57 at our last city council meeting i
24:59 briefly walked through the committee's
25:01 draft legislative agenda for the 2022
25:03 legislative session and i also mentioned
25:05 that i bring this up again at today's
25:07 meeting
25:08 so during good of the order today my
25:10 plan is to run through that draft again
25:12 to briefly again to see if there's any
25:13 feedback or questions from council of
25:15 the administration and uh tisha stands
25:17 at the ready to share her screen with
25:20 those uh draft uh priorities as well if
25:23 you'd like to walk through them on the
25:25 screen so
25:26 um stay tuned for that thanks
25:29 thank you councilmember hall
25:30 councilmember d michelle
25:33 thank you
25:34 mayor paulie i have no report this
25:36 evening
25:37 eastside human services forum is holding
25:39 committee meetings on wednesday
25:41 afternoon and thursday morning and the
25:43 healthier here governing board will meet
25:45 this coming thursday afternoon
25:47 and that concludes my report
25:50 thank you next up is councilmember walsh
25:54 thank you mayor paulie this is
25:55 councilmember walsh and i have no report
25:57 this evening
25:58 thank you councilmember goodman
26:05 um i have no report this evening except
26:08 to say congratulations to all the new
26:09 grandmas out there
26:11 including mayor paulie
26:13 thank you
26:15 very funny thank you much appreciated
26:18 um comes my remarks
26:20 thank you madam man this is
26:22 councilmember martz
26:23 the puget sound regional council growth
26:26 management policy board will be meeting
26:28 this thursday from 10 till noon online
26:31 there are three discussion items the
26:34 first is coordination with tribes and
26:36 comprehensive planning the second is
26:38 regional transit oriented development
26:40 committee update
26:42 and the third is comprehensive plan
26:44 guidance and on the third it's really
26:47 going to be a description of the
26:50 development of
26:52 2024 comprehensive plan
26:55 guidance and the efforts that uh psrc
26:58 has made to take in developing that
27:00 comprehensive plan so i will plan on
27:02 reporting back to the council
27:05 in a future for good
27:07 for good of the order uh on
27:09 on that process
27:11 the sound cities association public
27:13 issues committee uh november reading is
27:15 actually cancelled we've had a busy year
27:18 and the holidays is when all the fca
27:20 business gets done so uh chose not to
27:23 have a november sca pick a meeting this
27:26 concludes my report thank you
27:28 councilmember mertz deputy council
27:29 president ray
27:30 uh thank you mayor paulie this is chris
27:32 ray i have no report this evening
27:34 thank you and council president hunt
27:37 thank you madam mayor i have two reports
27:39 this evening on october 28th the
27:43 title 18 ad hoc committee mets this is
27:46 the ad hoc committee of council members
27:48 that meets with staff to discuss title
27:50 18 which is our municipal land use code
27:53 updates process
27:55 and in this meeting we discussed the
27:57 scope of the work in the title 18 ad hoc
28:00 committee i believe that councilmember
28:02 goodman would like to
28:04 discuss this more at good of the order
28:06 this evening we also reviewed materials
28:08 going to the planning policy commission
28:11 this week and those include
28:15 materials regarding the transfer of
28:16 development rights the landmarks and
28:19 archaeology parts of title 18 as well as
28:22 affordable housing
28:25 and
28:26 that committee has been meeting every
28:28 two weeks so there will be a meeting two
28:30 weeks from october 28th
28:32 also on october 19th
28:35 the
28:37 leadership of this council met with the
28:40 leadership of the issaquah school
28:41 district board
28:43 so that was me
28:45 council deputy president ray city
28:47 administrator bob quits director
28:50 maraldo and director weaver as well as
28:52 superintendent daly
28:54 and this is our quarterly meeting that
28:57 we have with this that we've been having
28:58 with the school district we had a number
29:00 of topics on the agenda we exchanged
29:03 updates on
29:04 the issaquah climate action plan there
29:06 was an item related to the schools
29:09 in there so they put us in touch with
29:12 people to continue developing that
29:15 in partnership
29:16 that action item and the plan
29:19 and then we also received an update on
29:21 their school safety programming
29:24 as well as covid19
29:26 procedures that they have in place uh
29:29 for safety and then school construction
29:31 updates um we have been meeting
29:32 quarterly so i expect that the
29:35 leadership of the council will meet with
29:37 them
29:38 in the
29:40 next quarter uh as and that has yet to
29:43 be set and that concludes my report
29:47 thank you council president
29:49 next item up this evening is the mayor's
29:51 report uh there will be an executive
29:53 session this evening to discuss pending
29:55 potential litigation for rcw 42.30
29:59 0.110 per n1 parent i
30:02 and collective bargaining for rcw 42.30
30:05 0.14 per four
30:08 the items are expected to last 35
30:10 minutes and no action is anticipated in
30:12 open session
30:14 city hall is reopening i'm pleased to
30:17 announce the city of vistaquad team is
30:19 returning to some in-person services at
30:21 city hall starting tomorrow november 2nd
30:24 the following services will be offered
30:26 from 9 a.m to 1 p.m tuesdays and
30:28 thursdays at city hall 1 30 east sunset
30:31 way
30:32 main reception
30:34 permit center
30:35 utility billing
30:37 and issaquah police
30:40 for services such as concealed weapons
30:42 permit applications which require
30:44 appointments and for police record
30:46 requests and clearance letters for
30:48 issaquah residents i want to remind
30:50 everybody to please continue to wear a
30:52 mask even if vaccinated and keep our
30:54 community perfected from covet 19.
30:58 so there has been a change in the use of
31:00 city facilities we are requiring
31:02 verification of vaccination or negative
31:05 covet 19 tests will be required for
31:08 those
31:09 that wish to participate in activities
31:11 events fitness programs or other
31:14 gatherings in the following city of the
31:15 facilities
31:17 the issaquah community center
31:20 julius bone pool
31:21 the issaquah senior center and the
31:23 pickering barn all individuals who are
31:26 entering the facilities are also
31:28 required to adhere to the current indoor
31:30 mask mandate with a properly fitting
31:32 mask or face covering over the nose and
31:34 mouth and again i just want to thank you
31:36 all for your continued support regarding
31:38 the safety of our community
31:40 our employees and our program
31:42 participants
31:44 election day is tomorrow if you haven't
31:46 already returned your ballot yet you
31:49 still have time to bring it to the
31:50 dropbox located at city hall 1 30 east
31:53 sunset way until 8 pm tomorrow
31:56 king county will be posting election
31:58 results by 8 15 pm and you can learn
32:01 more about the at kingcounty.gov
32:05 elections
32:07 with the resignation of our police chief
32:09 scott bierbaum effective november 3rd
32:11 please join me in thanking scott for his
32:13 many years of service to the city of
32:15 issaquah
32:16 scott joined the city 26 years ago and
32:19 served as police chief since 2014. we
32:23 wish scott all the best
32:24 commander paula schwann has been
32:26 appointed interim police chief starting
32:28 on november 4th
32:31 the capital finance community task force
32:33 last met on october 19th to discuss
32:35 infrastructure priorities across
32:37 issaquah's needs in transportation
32:40 parks and trails and facilities the task
32:42 force will continue to develop its
32:44 recommendations on priorities at the
32:46 next meeting tomorrow november 2nd at 6
32:50 the new equity board will hold its first
32:52 meeting november 3rd at 6 pm i am
32:55 excited to see board members get to know
32:56 each other receive core orientation and
32:59 training and begin efforts towards its
33:01 work plan
33:02 and we also have some upcoming community
33:05 events
33:06 dia de los muertos day of the dead from
33:09 5 to 8 pm november 2nd at the issaquah
33:12 community center there will be crafts
33:14 games music and mexican food available
33:17 for purchase and i want to thank the
33:19 isquad cultural circle for organizing
33:21 this event
33:22 and the issaquah highlands eco market is
33:25 9 a.m to noon on november 6th at blakely
33:27 hall and you can shop for a variety of
33:29 small eco-friendly from a variety of
33:32 small eco-friendly vendors
33:34 farmers and artisans while learning
33:36 about sustainable living and that
33:38 concludes the mayor's report
33:40 the next item on our agenda this evening
33:42 is a consent calendar and it was
33:44 distributed to council in advance and if
33:46 it authorized the items on the consent
33:48 calendar will be considered together and
33:50 approved by one motion
33:52 hi councilmember d michelle do you have
33:55 a statement you'd like to make before we
33:58 i do thank you mayor paulie
34:01 i would like to state for the record
34:02 that i am currently employed with an
34:04 entity that is included in the city's
34:06 payables influence the choice i
34:09 currently fill the role of temporary
34:11 executive director of influence to
34:12 choice the city serves as a fiscal agent
34:15 for this agency in the disbursement of a
34:18 federal grant
34:19 grant funds are being dispersed under
34:21 this month's accounts payable i have
34:23 asked for advice from the city attorney
34:25 as to whether this warrants a conflict
34:27 of interest and i have been informed
34:29 that i am not legally required to be
34:31 excused from voting as the city is
34:34 carrying on a decision that was
34:35 previously made by the council
34:37 however for the sake of transparency i
34:40 would like to declare this employment
34:42 and and have my statement entered in the
34:45 minutes thank you
34:47 thank you very much
34:49 is there a motion uh to
34:53 move the consent calendar
34:58 council president hunt
35:00 i move to approve the consent calendar
35:02 as it appears in this evening's agenda
35:04 and deputy council president ray second
35:10 it has been
35:11 moved and seconded
35:13 oh gosh i'm way off my script here i'm
35:16 going to take a few steps back i had a
35:18 little technical glitch here i do want
35:20 to ask if the payables and payroll have
35:22 been reviewed
35:23 thank you
35:25 thank you very much i also want to ask
35:27 if anybody would like to remove any
35:29 items from the consent calendar and
35:30 consider it under regular business and i
35:32 will give the chat
35:34 a look for a couple of seconds to see if
35:36 anything comes up
35:40 okay and it has been moved and seconded
35:43 to approve the consent calendar and i'd
35:45 like the city clerk to please call the
35:46 rule
35:48 starting with council member walsh
35:51 aye
35:53 council member d michelle
35:55 aye
35:56 councilmember goodman aye
35:59 councilmember hall
36:00 aye
36:01 council president hunt
36:03 aye
36:04 councilmember martz
36:06 aye
36:08 deputy council president ray aye
36:11 that's seven i zero nays
36:13 thank you city clerk that passes
36:15 unanimously
36:16 the next item of business for this
36:18 evening is under regular business this
36:21 ab-8282 the king county regional
36:23 homelessness authority agreement for
36:25 housing vouchers and the action before
36:27 council this evening is for
36:28 authorization
36:30 i'd like to invite human services
36:31 manager monica negrilla to present the
36:34 site of monica welcome
36:39 good evening mayor paulie and members of
36:41 the council thank you so much for having
36:44 and this is monica negro in human
36:46 services
36:47 and i believe
36:49 it's just gonna help with um
36:52 presenting thank you so much
36:57 so tonight we are here with a brief
36:59 presentation
37:00 hopefully in the request and that we
37:02 hope can help our most vulnerable
37:05 community members so we are here to
37:07 present an emergency housing vouchers
37:10 uh we can start the slide next slide
37:12 please tisha thank you
37:14 so our goal tonight is um to come here
37:17 in front of you and seek city council
37:20 authorization to enter into an agreement
37:23 with king county regional homelessness
37:25 authority
37:26 to administer emergency housing vouchers
37:29 for people experiencing homelessness or
37:32 at imminent risk of homelessness in our
37:34 community and next slide please
37:38 i'm gonna provide a brief background on
37:40 this program and i call this is the
37:43 acronym page since there's an acronym
37:45 for every single sentence here
37:48 under the american rescue plan act arpa
37:52 the u.s department of housing and urban
37:54 development had
37:56 allocated emergency housing vouchers
37:59 ehvs to the public housing agencies
38:03 phase
38:04 in king county so these are the public
38:06 housing agencies our king county housing
38:09 authority tcl housing authority and
38:11 renton housing authority
38:14 and so in collaboration with the king
38:16 county regional homelessness authority
38:19 the county received a total of 1300
38:23 emergency housing vouchers
38:26 and of those an estimated 11 vouchers
38:29 may be more depending on capacity and
38:31 availability
38:33 could come to
38:34 support issaquah residents
38:38 next slide please
38:41 so the emergency housing vouchers are
38:44 offer
38:45 for folks who experience homelessness or
38:48 those words risk of homelessness
38:51 long-term rental assistance and um they
38:54 also provide for initial housing search
38:56 leasing assistance and some moving costs
39:00 under this agreement um king county
39:03 regional homelessness authority agrees
39:05 to allocate the housing vouchers to the
39:08 city
39:09 and we agreed to identify persons for um
39:13 referring them into this program
39:15 and we also commit to assisting them
39:17 with
39:19 navigating the housing search and the
39:22 lease agreement and we also commit to
39:24 providing support services for at least
39:27 one year after the lease agreement is
39:30 executed
39:32 next slide please
39:35 so as as these housing vouchers are a
39:38 potential resource for the behavioral
39:40 health and outreach program that we have
39:42 but also a resource for our partners in
39:45 in other departments and in the city
39:48 our recommendation is to enter into an
39:50 agreement with king county
39:53 regional homelessness authority to help
39:55 administer the emergency housing
39:58 vouchers
39:59 that will support our vulnerable
40:01 community members
40:03 and so
40:04 next slide please if approved by city
40:07 council the next step would be for mayor
40:09 paulie to enter into
40:11 a memorandum of agreement with the
40:13 county
40:14 with the regional homelessness authority
40:17 to administer the vouchers and city
40:19 staff will proceed to completing the
40:21 voucher applications with residents
40:24 currently in need
40:26 and with that i'm available for
40:28 questions
40:31 thank you monica and thank you for all
40:32 your work on this um are there any
40:35 questions could you please indicate in
40:36 the chat
40:39 give it a few seconds
40:47 i'm not seeing any
40:49 i'm wondering if we can get the motion
40:52 put in the chat and we can have somebody
40:54 move the motion
40:56 thank you city clerk
41:00 council president hunt
41:03 thank you i moved to authorize the mayor
41:05 to enter into an agreement with king
41:07 county regional homelessness authority
41:11 kcrha to administer 10 emergency housing
41:14 vouchers
41:16 ehv that will support people
41:18 experiencing or at imminent risk of
41:20 homelessness
41:23 thank you deputy council president ray
41:25 second
41:27 it has been moved and seconded if you
41:30 would like to discuss please indicate in
41:32 the chat
41:41 council president hunt followed by
41:42 council member g michelle
41:45 thank you this is council president hunt
41:47 briefly i am
41:49 fully supportive thank you for bringing
41:51 this forward um
41:54 several of us including the mayor met
41:56 with the regional homelessness authority
41:59 fairly recently and did express that we
42:03 are very much interested in partnering
42:06 with this agency to serve the most
42:09 vulnerable people in our community
42:11 and so looking forward to this as being
42:13 a start of that partnership
42:17 thank you very much council president
42:19 councilmember d michelle
42:22 thank you mayor paulie i just i want to
42:24 echo the thanks and thank you to
42:28 the human services staff and to the
42:30 council leadership and to mayor paulie
42:32 uh for a great team effort it's been a
42:35 long time since isquad has been this
42:37 well represented with the county and
42:40 with uh some of our major regional
42:44 organizations that provide this kind of
42:46 support for the most vulnerable citizens
42:48 in our in our city so i'm i'm really
42:51 pleased with this effort and support
42:54 this very much so thanks to everybody
42:56 that participated
42:58 thank you councilmember michelle our
43:00 city clerk would like to add a
43:01 clarification
43:04 yes mayor i realized that i copied in a
43:06 slightly earlier iteration of the
43:08 proposed motion i understand there could
43:11 be some variability in the number of
43:13 vouchers so i'm entering a
43:16 substitute motion that is more general
43:19 regarding the number of vouchers to be
43:22 authorized
43:24 and we need the permission from the
43:26 mover or the agreement of the council
43:29 member that moved it and the council
43:30 member that second
43:32 um actually if uh maybe we could just
43:34 ask if there's any objection among the
43:37 council to uh move forward with the
43:40 revised wording and if you i i can read
43:43 the revised wording that would be great
43:46 so uh the proposed substitute motion
43:49 would be to authorize the mayor to enter
43:51 into an agreement with king county
43:52 regional homelessness authority
43:54 to administer emergency housing vouchers
43:56 that will support people experiencing or
43:59 imminent risk of homelessness
44:01 thank you if there is anyone who is in
44:04 disagreement of moving forward with this
44:06 replacement substitute motion can you
44:09 please indicate in the chat and i'll
44:10 call on you
44:16 and i am not seeing any opposition so
44:20 city clerk thank you for rereading thank
44:22 you for reading the substitute motion
44:24 would you like to call the role
44:30 and mayor just to clarify um there was
44:32 no further debate
44:35 i'll give a second option then if
44:36 there's any council discussion or debate
44:39 on the substitute motion you can
44:41 indicate in the chat
44:45 not seeing anything right now
44:49 city clerk do you want to proceed with
44:50 the vote
44:52 mayor just to clarify there doesn't need
44:53 to be a vote on the substitute since
44:55 there wasn't any objection
44:59 so we can just proceed um to any further
45:02 debate on on this motion and then the
45:05 final vote
45:06 when everyone's ready
45:08 sounds good
45:10 still not seeing anything on in the chat
45:13 so there you go
45:16 okay starting with
45:18 councilmember d michelle
45:22 councilmember goodman aye
45:25 councilmember hall
45:27 aye
45:29 council president hunt
45:31 aye
45:32 councilmember martz aye
45:36 deputy council president ray aye
45:39 council member walsh
45:41 aye
45:42 that's seven eye zero nays
45:45 thank you city clerk that passes
45:46 unanimously
45:48 thank you monica
45:50 our next item of business this evening
45:52 is ab-8199
45:54 the proposed 2022 budget
45:56 levy and revenue sources and the
45:59 question before council tonight is to
46:01 adopt this ordinance the item was last
46:04 before council for a public hearing at
46:05 the october 4th council meeting
46:08 the presentation on this item will also
46:10 encompass the next two regular business
46:12 items related to the city's 2022 revenue
46:14 sources which is ab-8231
46:17 and
46:18 ab-8247 and i'd like to invite interim
46:21 finance director autumn monahan to
46:23 present this item autumn welcome
46:25 thank you mark paulie i'll share my
46:27 screen
46:27 [Music]
46:32 that look okay
46:34 it looks very good thanks great thank
46:36 you again my name is otto monaghan i'm
46:38 serving as interim finance director
46:43 uh tonight there are three ordinances
46:45 concerning revenues for your
46:46 consideration all three were introduced
46:48 and presented at the october 4th public
46:50 hearing and tonight we're requesting
46:51 action
46:52 for brevity all three agenda bills will
46:53 be covered in this one presentation
46:57 first up a property tax overview
46:59 property tax represents 17
47:02 of the general fund represented by the
47:03 blue area on this chart
47:07 state law allows jurisdictions to
47:09 increase property tax annually by up to
47:11 one percent or the implicit price
47:13 deflator which is a measure of inflation
47:15 whichever is lower plus the value of new
47:17 construction for 2022 the ipd is 3.86 so
47:22 the limit is one percent the value of
47:24 this one percent is about 98 000 which
47:27 is included in the mayor's 2022 proposed
47:29 budget
47:32 there are also two other avs on your
47:34 agenda tonight the first is agenda bill
47:36 8231 which would also increase cbd fees
47:39 by 5 to reflect inflation
47:42 while these changes can be made
47:43 administratively council action is
47:45 needed to formally update the fee tables
47:47 in the issaquah municipal code
47:49 this will help avoid any confusion for
47:51 permit applicants as the codified fees
47:53 will be reflected in the administrative
47:55 adjustments uh the increase to these
47:58 fees uh enables permit revenues to track
48:01 with increasing labor costs and would
48:03 generate about 183 000 revenue
48:08 and finally utility tax
48:10 the city charges utility taxes on
48:12 several utilities including electricity
48:15 natural gas telephone and more for the
48:18 use of city infrastructure like our
48:19 right-of-way these taxes are then passed
48:21 on to customers in 2019 the city council
48:24 adopted a three percent tax for water
48:26 and sewer which we then pass on to our
48:28 utility customers and that supports the
48:30 general fund
48:32 there are some residents of isla however
48:34 who are not our water and sewer
48:35 customers but are instead served by
48:37 spanish plateau water district
48:39 in 2020 a state supreme court ruling
48:41 confirmed that cities can impose taxes
48:44 on water and sewer districts
48:49 8247 uh proposes that we impose it the
48:52 same three percent utility tax for water
48:54 and sewer on census plateau water
48:55 district the district has about 1100
48:58 watt customers in our city limits with
49:00 about 800 also receiving sewer services
49:04 in 2020 the district collected about 5.6
49:07 million in revenues from these customers
49:09 so if the proposed utility tax started
49:11 on january 1st of 2022 the estimated new
49:15 ongoing revenues for the general fund
49:16 would be about 167 000
49:20 this action would also ensure that we're
49:22 treating the two utilities the city and
49:24 the district uh which offer the same
49:26 services equally and since the district
49:28 will likely pass on this cost to its
49:30 customers it also ensures that we're
49:32 treating all isaf residents equally
49:37 so in summary our recommendation is
49:38 adoption of these three ordinances and
49:40 we're here to answer any questions
49:44 thank you autumn i am looking at the
49:47 chat to see if there are any questions
49:48 on any of the three abs
49:55 take a few seconds
50:00 not seeing anything come up in the chat
50:03 if somebody would like to make a motion
50:05 on the first a b
50:07 that would be great
50:13 council president hunt
50:15 thank you i moved to adopt ordinance
50:17 number
50:18 2956 levying property taxes for the city
50:21 of issaquah for the fiscal year
50:22 commencing january 1st
50:24 2022 on all property both real and
50:27 personal in said city which is subject
50:30 to taxation for the purpose of paying
50:32 sufficient revenue to carry on the
50:34 services of the said city for the
50:36 ensuing year as required by law thank
50:40 you council president hunt deputy
50:42 council president right
50:43 second
50:45 it's been moved and seconded are there
50:47 is there any discussion on this first
50:49 motion
50:55 again i'll just keep my eye on the chat
51:01 it does not look like there is a city
51:04 clerk would you like to do the
51:06 roll call vote
51:08 yes starting with council member goodman
51:10 aye
51:12 councilmember hall
51:14 council president hunt
51:18 council member martz aye
51:21 deputy council president ray hi
51:24 councilmember walsh
51:26 aye
51:27 councilmember d michelle
51:29 aye
51:30 that's seven eyes zero nays
51:32 thank you that first uh motion passes
51:35 unanimously the next one um that we'll
51:38 be looking at is for ab-8247
51:41 the revenue sources related to utility
51:44 tax for sammamish plateau water district
51:46 customers
51:48 is the
51:50 are there any questions on that
51:54 and uh wait another second i still have
51:57 somebody ready to move it but i'll wait
51:58 to see if there's any more questions any
52:00 questions okay council president hunt
52:06 thank you i moved to adopt ordinance
52:08 number 2957 amending chapter 5.32 of the
52:12 issaquah municipal code relating to the
52:14 utility business and occupation tax for
52:16 water and sewer utilities providing for
52:19 referendum and establishing an effective
52:21 date
52:22 and deputy council president ray second
52:26 it's been moved and seconded is there
52:29 any
52:30 discussion again just keeping my eye on
52:33 the chat box uh council president hunt
52:36 for comment
52:38 um thank you
52:40 will just comment um generally on these
52:42 revenue sources that we have had
52:44 multiple touches and i am supportive of
52:48 this one and
52:49 one of the reasons why is as
52:53 interim finance director monahan pointed
52:56 out this
52:57 allows us to treat residents
52:59 across the city equally so i will be in
53:02 support thank you
53:04 thank you council president
53:06 looking not seeing any others wishing to
53:08 comment at this time and it has been
53:11 moved and seconded
53:13 city clerk do you want to do a roll call
53:15 vote
53:16 yes starting with council member hall
53:22 council president hunt
53:26 councilmember martz aye
53:28 deputy council president ray aye
53:31 council member walsh
53:33 aye
53:34 council member d michelle
53:36 aye
53:37 councilmember goodman aye
53:40 that's seven eyes your own a's
53:42 thank you city clerk that passes
53:44 unanimously and the third one
53:46 on proposed revenue sources is amending
53:49 community planning and development fees
53:52 does the council have any questions on
53:54 this motion
54:03 not seeing anybody in the chat box with
54:06 questions
54:08 could we have somebody make a motion oh
54:10 council president hunt
54:12 and move to adopt ordinance number 2958
54:15 amending chapter 3.64 in section 109 of
54:19 chapter 16.04 of the issaquah municipal
54:22 code to apply a cost of living increase
54:25 to the city's land use and site work
54:27 permit fees building plumbing and
54:29 mechanical fees and additional fees for
54:31 inspections plan review and other
54:33 related services amending subsection
54:36 107.3
54:38 of chapter 16.04 of the issaquah
54:40 municipal code to clarify the
54:42 application of fees related to the use
54:44 of consultants
54:46 providing for several ability and
54:47 establishing an effective date of
54:49 january 1
54:50 2022.
54:52 deputy council president ray second
54:55 been moved and seconded
54:58 is there any council discussion
55:00 again please indicate in the chat
55:09 lady clerk i believe we are ready for
55:12 the vote since there does not appear to
55:14 be any discussion
55:17 starting with council president hunt
55:22 council member martz aye
55:25 deputy council president ray aye
55:28 council member walsh
55:30 aye
55:31 council member d michelle aye
55:35 councilmember goodman aye
55:37 councilmember hall
55:39 aye
55:40 at 7i zero nays
55:42 thank you city clerk that passes
55:44 unanimously thank you autumn
55:47 next on our regular business agenda this
55:49 evening is ab-8251
55:51 performance measurements
55:53 uh the action or the request before
55:56 council this evening is for approval and
55:58 this item was last before
56:00 council at the october 12th city council
56:02 study session i'd like to ask management
56:05 analyst dale markey crimp to present
56:08 this item welcome dale
56:11 thank you so much mayor paulie i'm gonna
56:13 just share my screen
56:28 are you able to see my full cleaner are
56:30 you seeing the notes
56:31 we are seeing the notes
56:33 let's go ahead and swap that
56:36 great
56:37 that should be all set now
56:39 looks good thank you dale awesome well
56:41 good evening um
56:43 mayor members of the council my name is
56:45 dale marquis crimp and i'm the cities
56:47 management analyst for performance and
56:49 budget
56:50 and i'm just grateful to be back here
56:52 this evening to revisit our conversation
56:54 from october 12th and lay out the
56:56 proposed 2022 city-wide performance
56:58 measures for approval
57:02 the purpose of our time together tonight
57:04 is twofold
57:06 first to provide the data available
57:09 historical and current through 2020 with
57:12 the 2021 community survey data for our
57:15 city-wide performance measures and
57:17 second to seek city council approval of
57:20 the updated city-wide performance
57:22 measures with minor changes to the
57:24 original slate
57:27 some brief background
57:29 in november 2020 the city council
57:32 approved the creation of 55 city-wide
57:35 performance measures aligned with the
57:36 city's strategic plan goal areas
57:39 over the course of 2021 department data
57:42 owners sought to collect current and
57:45 historical data on these measures
57:47 and when i joined staff in mid-june of
57:49 this year i did an initial inventory of
57:51 the data that had already been shared
57:54 and worked with department data owners
57:56 to catalog
57:58 the remaining data available
58:00 and to better understand any challenges
58:02 in data collection or measurement
58:04 presented by the measures as defined in
58:06 the original plan
58:08 that uncovered challenges of three types
58:11 challenges in measurement and data
58:14 collection due to covet interruptions
58:17 challenges in measurement due to a
58:19 mismatch between measured definition and
58:22 the available tools and trackers
58:24 so in essence it's something that we as
58:27 a city already track but we track it a
58:29 little bit differently
58:30 and lastly challenges and data
58:32 collection because we lack a tool or
58:34 resource so we don't currently track it
58:37 and we currently lack the tools to do so
58:40 as we discuss on october 12th and as we
58:43 look ahead to 2022 i'm proposing minor
58:46 revisions to measures and looking to
58:48 pilot operational performance models for
58:51 a few programs in 2022
58:53 in order to support the link between the
58:56 day-to-day actions
58:58 and improvement on our high-level
59:00 citywide measures
59:03 when we met on october 12th to discuss
59:05 these minor revisions and the potential
59:07 pilot feedback from council included the
59:10 following
59:12 general support for the requested
59:13 revisions
59:15 but retaining the time of first permit
59:17 review measure even though there are
59:19 some nuances lost in this high level
59:21 measure some council members felt that
59:24 it still provided a fair barometer of
59:26 performance and indicated
59:28 permit types for which cpd staff may
59:30 offer more education
59:32 or materials to improve permit
59:34 submission quality
59:36 acceptance of the yearly walkway and
59:38 bikeway additions and maintenance with
59:40 interest in learning more about why we
59:42 don't have complete historical data
59:45 excuse me on the walkways across the
59:47 city
59:48 and a continued interest in having beta
59:50 on car travel time despite challenges
59:52 with the contract for the vendor which
59:55 provides the city of kirkland with their
59:57 car travel time data
59:58 additionally many council members
1:00:00 express support in the operational
1:00:02 performance measurement frameworks and
1:00:04 make city-wide measures more actionable
1:00:07 and connected to the day-to-day work of
1:00:09 city staff
1:00:10 council members suggested homelessness
1:00:12 outreach pavement management green
1:00:15 issaquah
1:00:16 traffic and mobility and environmental
1:00:18 stewardship and climate action as
1:00:20 potential candidates for this pilot
1:00:23 additionally since our last meeting i've
1:00:25 compiled in a more digestible package
1:00:28 all of the data that staff has collected
1:00:30 on our citywide measures since their
1:00:32 approval last fall
1:00:35 this is the data available through the
1:00:36 year end 2020
1:00:38 with the addition of the 2021 community
1:00:41 survey data which you saw much earlier
1:00:43 this year
1:00:45 available 2021 data will be shared in q1
1:00:48 and q2 of 2022 and integrated into the
1:00:52 model
1:00:54 a couple things to consider as you're
1:00:56 looking over looking over again um the
1:00:59 data in the packet for this evening
1:01:01 first of all for high level measures
1:01:03 like this it often can take five
1:01:06 to ten years to have enough data to
1:01:08 really establish a baseline and suss out
1:01:10 whether or not we're moving away from a
1:01:13 curve or keeping on a line or we're
1:01:15 dropping in a direction that we don't
1:01:17 want to
1:01:18 you'll notice also for ease of
1:01:20 consumption
1:01:21 i've used a similar color coding method
1:01:23 to mark progress and trend
1:01:25 directionality as you've seen in
1:01:27 quarterly work plan updates
1:01:30 another thing to note is that kobit 19
1:01:32 has clearly had an impact on our data
1:01:35 whether because it made some of the data
1:01:37 unavailable
1:01:38 or it led to big moves away from
1:01:40 historical numbers so for instance i'm
1:01:42 sure you noticed traffic collisions have
1:01:45 gone way down
1:01:46 in 2020 likely
1:01:49 part of the reason they dropped so
1:01:50 significantly not just in percent but
1:01:53 also in total number because there were
1:01:54 far fewer people driving
1:01:56 also the number of business retention
1:01:58 visits went away up uh due to the
1:02:02 the situation we found ourselves in
1:02:03 there was a great need to make sure we
1:02:05 had a pulse on absolutely as many
1:02:06 businesses as we could
1:02:08 um and so you see that number is much
1:02:10 higher than it was the previous year
1:02:12 and then there are also the gaps in data
1:02:14 which we talked about back on october
1:02:15 12th but i think worth revisiting
1:02:18 a cancellation of pollution reduction
1:02:20 visits led to a much lower number of
1:02:22 those in 2020 as it as compared to 2019
1:02:26 and the delayed american community
1:02:28 survey data which we've discussed before
1:02:31 a couple other things to note as you can
1:02:32 see on the slide here
1:02:34 we've seen strength and improvement over
1:02:36 time on many of our environmental
1:02:37 stewardship measures this is potentially
1:02:40 a place to learn from what's led to that
1:02:43 strength over time all the way up to the
1:02:44 community survey responses being much
1:02:47 better than previously
1:02:49 and then we have some opportunities for
1:02:50 improvement in both public safety and
1:02:52 city services though this data is mainly
1:02:55 pulling from the two high-level
1:02:56 community survey
1:02:58 data points that you've already seen
1:03:01 and last but certainly not least i think
1:03:02 it's notable to see that we've
1:03:04 maintained stability both in our output
1:03:06 and our outcomes level measures related
1:03:09 to infrastructure
1:03:12 tonight's agenda bill proposes the
1:03:14 following changes to the original
1:03:15 measures for the coming year to improve
1:03:18 the measurability
1:03:20 and the usability of our citywide
1:03:22 measures
1:03:23 for car travel time
1:03:25 no changes are needed to be made to this
1:03:28 measure currently
1:03:29 however
1:03:30 we are administration is looking for
1:03:32 council approval and delaying data
1:03:34 reporting
1:03:35 since october 12th we've clarified a few
1:03:38 issues with the inrex contract and staff
1:03:40 is now exploring modifications to that
1:03:42 contract that will allow us to share
1:03:44 this data
1:03:46 as part of public record
1:03:48 however department staff needs more time
1:03:50 to negotiate this contract meaning there
1:03:52 will not be car travel time data for
1:03:54 2020 or 2021.
1:03:57 for first permit review time no changes
1:03:59 to this measure in 2021 but staff is
1:04:02 seeking council approval to research and
1:04:04 report additional information as part of
1:04:06 this measure in 2022
1:04:08 to provide a more complete story
1:04:11 of what's leading to longer processing
1:04:12 times for some permits
1:04:15 for new affordable housing units staff
1:04:17 is seeking approval to change the way
1:04:19 this measure is reported from total
1:04:21 units
1:04:22 to units by percent area median income
1:04:25 which is how the data is presented and
1:04:27 the annual housing report card
1:04:30 for number of cpd decisions appealed and
1:04:33 lost staff is seeking approval to remove
1:04:35 this measure as it's not representative
1:04:38 of staff service quality or customer
1:04:40 satisfaction with surveys and both of
1:04:42 those measures are being measured by
1:04:45 other measures that we already have in
1:04:47 our city-wide measures
1:04:49 it's also not a measure that can be
1:04:50 influenced by cpd staff actions or
1:04:53 activities
1:04:54 and lastly for linear feet of walkways
1:04:57 staff is seeking city council decision
1:04:59 to either continue gathering data on
1:05:01 only annual constructed and maintained
1:05:03 linear feet of walkway
1:05:05 or to approve additional funding to
1:05:07 support a survey of total walkway across
1:05:10 the city
1:05:11 a little bit more on that so direction
1:05:14 is specifically needed on this fifth
1:05:16 measure
1:05:17 for this decision council might consider
1:05:19 what information it's hoping to gather
1:05:21 from this measure
1:05:23 department staff productivity and
1:05:24 efficiency or city walkability and it
1:05:27 currently lives within our mobility
1:05:29 measures which leans more towards city
1:05:30 walkability
1:05:32 yearly walkway constructed and
1:05:34 maintained which is what we currently
1:05:36 have the data we currently have in the
1:05:38 system we currently use
1:05:40 provides insight on how efficiently and
1:05:42 productively we're adding walkway
1:05:44 we don't currently have a goal for this
1:05:46 measure but we could benchmark against
1:05:47 other cities in the region or across the
1:05:49 country
1:05:51 option two
1:05:52 modifying the measure to be total linear
1:05:55 feet of citywide walkway and approving
1:05:58 funding to add
1:06:00 to add this to an upcoming public works
1:06:02 survey
1:06:03 would provide us with a total number
1:06:05 similar to how we have a total number of
1:06:07 acres of perks and open space which
1:06:10 could then be understood in relationship
1:06:12 to other metrics such as population or
1:06:14 could be understood in comparison to
1:06:16 something like linear miles of roadway
1:06:18 and thinking about walkability versus
1:06:20 drivability and bike ability
1:06:24 additionally following up on our october
1:06:26 12 discussion of programmatic
1:06:28 performance measurement staff will
1:06:30 pursue launching programmatic
1:06:31 performance measurement aligned to our
1:06:33 citywide measures for these four
1:06:35 programs homelessness outreach community
1:06:38 court
1:06:39 green issaquah and traffic and mobility
1:06:41 we think this is a strong foundation
1:06:44 to try these models on and see that see
1:06:48 the benefit that they give before
1:06:50 having every department work in this way
1:06:54 in terms of next steps
1:06:56 performance measurement staff
1:06:59 uh will
1:07:00 do the following update all departments
1:07:02 on any minor revisions and prepare
1:07:04 departments for sharing their 2021
1:07:06 annual data
1:07:07 support departments in developing 2022
1:07:10 work plan goals
1:07:11 benchmarks and theories of impact in
1:07:13 alignment with our city-wide performance
1:07:15 measures
1:07:16 work with our departments to set targets
1:07:18 for any measures with more than three
1:07:20 years of data for which the target is
1:07:22 currently to be determined
1:07:24 and not included on this slide
1:07:27 research the road
1:07:28 to open data how we share our progress
1:07:31 and efforts with the isoqua community
1:07:33 and how we benchmark our progress and
1:07:35 performance against peers in the region
1:07:37 the state and across the country
1:07:39 this starts with a clear plan for data
1:07:41 government governance which is the first
1:07:43 step along that path
1:07:46 so to wrap up my speaking for now um
1:07:50 i'll just remind us of the
1:07:51 administration recommendation which is
1:07:53 to approve these minor revisions to the
1:07:55 city-wide performance measures and with
1:07:57 that i will pause for any questions
1:08:01 thank you dale
1:08:03 give a second for council members to
1:08:04 indicate whether or not they have
1:08:05 questions in the chat
1:08:07 i want to thank you for your
1:08:08 presentation um you know being sitting
1:08:12 sitting with these council members as i
1:08:13 did during the development of the
1:08:14 strategic plan it is really awesome to
1:08:17 watch
1:08:18 the measurement process and compare
1:08:20 ourselves back to our goals and our
1:08:22 vision so thank you for the presentation
1:08:24 i am not seeing questions in the chat
1:08:28 but i'll give it another few seconds
1:08:34 okay i got a question from council
1:08:36 president hunt
1:08:38 thank you this is council president hunt
1:08:40 um there is a
1:08:42 there's an optional amendment so um
1:08:46 it seems just to confirm my
1:08:48 understanding if we did want because
1:08:50 there was a question in there about the
1:08:51 sidewalks measure so if we did want to
1:08:56 go with the
1:08:58 linear feet of walkways constructed and
1:09:00 maintained which is the more holistic
1:09:03 look at all of the walkways which would
1:09:05 cost an additional ten thousand dollars
1:09:07 then we would make the main move the
1:09:09 main motion and then um
1:09:12 make an amendment to make that change
1:09:14 that's the recommendation for a way
1:09:15 forward is that correct
1:09:18 dale's nodding her head that she thinks
1:09:20 so i just double check with the city
1:09:22 clerk that that would be the appropriate
1:09:23 way to get that included
1:09:27 yes um another option would be to um to
1:09:30 sort of move them jointly so to move
1:09:32 approval of the updated measures
1:09:33 incorporating the amendment
1:09:38 any other questions or comments
1:09:42 uh city clerk would it be possible for
1:09:44 you to put in that motion uh in the chat
1:09:48 box what you just mentioned about
1:09:50 combining that too yes thank you
1:09:57 and when that shows
1:10:00 up we will get someone to move it
1:10:10 mayor i can i can move the first part if
1:10:12 that's okay oh sure go ahead council
1:10:15 president hunt
1:10:17 um i will move to approve the updated
1:10:19 city-wide performance measures
1:10:21 and deputy council president ray
1:10:23 second
1:10:25 thank you is there any discussion
1:10:31 mr president hunt
1:10:33 thank you i am uh
1:10:36 happy to be considering this this
1:10:38 evening i think it is a great step
1:10:40 forward that we're going to have this
1:10:41 data that will help us measure our
1:10:43 progress in different areas i think
1:10:45 it'll be very useful
1:10:47 in our decision making and policy making
1:10:49 going forward
1:10:51 as far as the specifics i
1:10:54 am planning on moving
1:10:57 amendments for discussion because um
1:11:01 i think that that warrants its own
1:11:02 conversation i also had one additional
1:11:06 comment which is regarding the traffic
1:11:09 and mobility
1:11:10 um programmatic performance
1:11:15 measurements using that
1:11:17 i think
1:11:19 i think it could potentially be a good
1:11:20 topic for the
1:11:22 transportation advisory committee to
1:11:25 consider as well um
1:11:27 as it points out in the
1:11:29 as it points out in the um agenda bill
1:11:33 uh it says as the city invest new
1:11:35 resources in both technology and people
1:11:36 power to address this issue staff will
1:11:38 work with this team to document a clear
1:11:40 theory of impact
1:11:41 and opportunities for high impact
1:11:43 improvement there's a lot of pieces to
1:11:46 and so i think one additional resource
1:11:49 could be the transportation advisory
1:11:51 board in that
1:11:52 in that planning process
1:11:54 otherwise very supportive um
1:11:59 yeah i i will move um the next piece but
1:12:02 first i'll give an opportunity in case
1:12:04 anybody has comments on the main motion
1:12:07 sounds great i'm going to go to deputy
1:12:08 council president ray and then council
1:12:10 member walsh and martz
1:12:13 thank you mayor paul this is chris
1:12:14 wright
1:12:16 very briefly
1:12:17 um i am really excited that we have a
1:12:21 coherent set of performance measures i'm
1:12:23 very excited to see how we use them and
1:12:27 make our city
1:12:29 a more vibrant livable place and how we
1:12:31 make our city government
1:12:33 more effective
1:12:34 i particularly excited about the idea of
1:12:37 open data and making data
1:12:39 readily available to people to
1:12:42 to explore as they see fit and i'm also
1:12:44 very excited about the notion of data
1:12:46 governance and how we start to have
1:12:48 people take ownership of the data that
1:12:50 we have so
1:12:52 dale thank you nice job
1:12:55 thank you and councilmember walsh
1:12:59 thank you this is councilmember walsh
1:13:01 dale i just appreciate so much uh all
1:13:05 the work on this and the way that you've
1:13:06 pulled this together it shows a care for
1:13:09 the program that is not just okay we're
1:13:13 gonna put a bunch of numbers down on
1:13:15 paper and track those year to year
1:13:18 but to take it even in this early stage
1:13:21 of it
1:13:24 look at pilot
1:13:26 areas where we can model performance
1:13:29 improvement
1:13:31 just speaks to
1:13:33 wanting to use the data
1:13:35 and wanting to see that
1:13:38 it takes our city forward and that it
1:13:40 communicates a message to all of the
1:13:43 users not just
1:13:45 the the staff who use it not just
1:13:47 council members who use it not just
1:13:50 budget season
1:13:51 but also the community and the
1:13:53 individual departments
1:13:55 who are looking to
1:13:56 move the needle forward on
1:13:59 their areas so i very much appreciate
1:14:02 and i look forward to seeing
1:14:04 all of this um develop over the next
1:14:06 year and so thank you thank you
1:14:09 councilmember walsh councilmember martz
1:14:11 thank you madam mayor this is
1:14:12 councilmember mark uh i am hopeful uh
1:14:16 but i am cautiously hopeful
1:14:19 uh i feel like
1:14:21 we started
1:14:24 oh boy i want to say it's been nine
1:14:26 years maybe it's only been eight years
1:14:28 that we started the conversation around
1:14:32 metrics and maybe had a metric or two
1:14:35 that we could look at in an early
1:14:37 dashboard
1:14:39 there's two there's two really important
1:14:41 issues associated with this one is
1:14:43 consistent metrics right so if you
1:14:46 let's say you
1:14:47 in your car have a speedometer but then
1:14:50 after a couple years you decide oh i'm
1:14:53 just going to look at my pictometer and
1:14:55 then after a couple more years you say
1:14:57 oh i'm just going to look at my oil
1:14:58 pressure
1:14:59 right you don't build up any one set of
1:15:02 of one any one metric that you can use
1:15:05 as a control signal for a length of time
1:15:10 you know i have seen metrics come and go
1:15:12 and i hope that we build up data
1:15:15 that uh
1:15:16 useful data which then goes to my second
1:15:18 point which is tying metrics to
1:15:21 decisions
1:15:22 if you install a speedometer in your car
1:15:26 and then you put it in your trunk
1:15:28 and you drive down the highway and you
1:15:30 get where you're going and you open your
1:15:32 trunk up and you look at i don't know a
1:15:34 measure
1:15:35 maybe tracked your speedometer
1:15:37 and you go oh i was doing 147 miles an
1:15:40 hour well then your speedometer didn't
1:15:41 do you any good you have to tie you have
1:15:44 to use these metrics in decision making
1:15:47 and uh so that you can see oh i'm
1:15:49 approaching the speed with it i should
1:15:51 take my foot off the gas pedal
1:15:53 so these will be important everyone who
1:15:55 is currently on the council except for
1:15:57 council member goodman will be here in
1:15:59 24 months and i want to see
1:16:02 and i think all of us will want to see
1:16:05 that we have not just collected this
1:16:07 data but used it
1:16:08 to help us make smart decisions in the
1:16:10 city and so that's my that's my cautious
1:16:13 hope this evening thank you
1:16:16 thank you councilmember mertz
1:16:18 not seeing anybody else wishing to
1:16:20 comment this evening so uh council
1:16:22 president hunt would you care to make a
1:16:23 motion
1:16:25 thank you i will move to amend the
1:16:28 performance measures by substituting the
1:16:30 linear feet of walkways constructed and
1:16:32 maintained measure with total
1:16:34 linear feet of walkways city-wide and
1:16:37 directs the finance director to include
1:16:39 ten thousand dollars in the proposed
1:16:41 2022 budget to survey the total length
1:16:43 of sidewalks and trails in the
1:16:46 city scroll down here uh
1:16:51 councilmember goodman it appears i
1:16:52 missed your comment is that uh on the
1:16:55 amendment or did you want to make a
1:16:56 comment on the main motion
1:17:01 on the main motion
1:17:03 okay um
1:17:05 then i will pass you over
1:17:07 and uh go to council member walsh for a
1:17:09 second
1:17:12 i would second the amendment
1:17:15 a discussion on the amendment
1:17:20 council president hunt
1:17:22 thanks this council president hunt i
1:17:24 moved this partly for discussion and
1:17:26 also i i do support it i think it's a
1:17:29 better
1:17:32 metric i think it gives us a then than
1:17:35 just a feet added
1:17:37 of sidewalks because this gives us a
1:17:39 sense of the whole
1:17:41 picture in terms of what walkways we
1:17:43 have to maintain as well as what we're
1:17:46 adding i think that was
1:17:48 what councilmember walsh
1:17:50 why councilmember walsh i believe it was
1:17:52 suggested in the first place so i think
1:17:54 it gives us a bigger the bigger picture
1:17:56 and could better inform our investments
1:17:59 in this kind of a
1:18:02 in this area so that's that's why i will
1:18:04 be in support and looking forward to any
1:18:07 other comments anybody else has on this
1:18:08 one thank you
1:18:09 thank you council president hunt i will
1:18:11 give a second to see if there are any
1:18:13 additional comments
1:18:20 not seeing any others
1:18:23 i will reread the amendment before the
1:18:25 roll call vote amend the performance
1:18:27 measures by substituting the linear feet
1:18:30 of walkways constructed and maintained
1:18:32 measure with total linear feet of
1:18:34 walkways citywide and direct the finance
1:18:36 director to include ten thousand dollars
1:18:38 in the proposed 2022 budget
1:18:40 to survey the total length of sidewalks
1:18:42 and trails in the cities
1:18:46 clerk
1:18:47 starting with council member martz
1:18:51 deputy council president ray aye
1:18:54 council member walsh
1:18:57 councilmember d michelle
1:19:00 council member goodman
1:19:03 councilmember hall
1:19:06 council president hunt
1:19:09 at seven eyes zero nays
1:19:11 thank you the amendment passes i'm gonna
1:19:14 circle back with council member goodman
1:19:16 about the main motion
1:19:18 um yeah i just wanted to two quick
1:19:20 things um i was i've been very impressed
1:19:22 with the work on this um so thank you um
1:19:25 to dale for that and second of all um
1:19:28 although i won't be in this chair in 24
1:19:30 months i anticipate still like being
1:19:34 just to clarify
1:19:38 thank you councilmember goodman
1:19:40 um now that the um there has been an
1:19:43 amendment does the is the question for
1:19:46 city clerk do we go back to um do we
1:19:49 need to revise the original proposed
1:19:51 motion
1:19:53 prove the updated citywide performance
1:19:55 measures as amended
1:19:57 as amended works great okay that is
1:20:00 great
1:20:01 so um
1:20:03 for uh council president hunt and i
1:20:05 think it was councilmember walsh is that
1:20:07 um change to the motion
1:20:09 okay with both of you
1:20:11 okay so we are back to the main motion
1:20:14 i'm not seeing
1:20:16 uh council president han i think i
1:20:18 caught you didn't i already okay great
1:20:21 so the main motion is to approve the
1:20:23 updated citywide performance measures as
1:20:24 amended and i'll go to the city clerk
1:20:26 for the roll call vote
1:20:29 starting with deputy council president
1:20:31 ray aye
1:20:33 council member walsh aye
1:20:35 councilmember d michelle
1:20:39 councilmember goodman aye
1:20:41 councilmember hall
1:20:44 council president hunt
1:20:47 council member martz
1:20:49 all right
1:20:50 that's seven eyes zero nays
1:20:53 thank you all that passes unanimously
1:20:54 and thank you dale for all your hard
1:20:56 work on this
1:20:58 next item we are through with our
1:21:00 regular business this evening and we're
1:21:02 moving to go to the order i think we
1:21:03 have at least one item for good of the
1:21:05 order so as people
1:21:07 uh chime in on the chat i will just give
1:21:09 a little um update on some upcoming
1:21:11 council meetings
1:21:13 first on november 9th there's a city
1:21:15 council study session and potential
1:21:17 agenda items include the 2021
1:21:20 comprehensive plan
1:21:21 and zoning map amendments and the
1:21:24 proposed 2022 budget final deliberations
1:21:27 november 15th has a regular uh city
1:21:30 council meeting with potential agenda
1:21:32 items including the 2022 budget final
1:21:35 public hearing and adoption
1:21:38 and it looks like we have a couple of
1:21:39 things for good of the order let's start
1:21:41 with council member hall
1:21:46 uh thank you councilmember zach hall
1:21:47 here um
1:21:49 like i mentioned earlier just quickly
1:21:50 wanted to run through
1:21:52 the 2022 legislative agenda for the
1:21:55 growth management planning council's
1:21:56 affordable housing committee
1:21:59 so i wanted to ask the council um i
1:22:02 guess just
1:22:04 jump in if you think i should stop her
1:22:06 if you feel like you've had enough time
1:22:08 over the last week to go through it
1:22:10 right now what i'm going to do is just
1:22:12 run through the high level
1:22:15 kind of three tiers of priorities that
1:22:17 they have and i'm going to speak to them
1:22:19 a little bit and if you want to get more
1:22:20 in detail and see the actual
1:22:23 um thing on the screen tisch our city
1:22:25 clerk is ready to share that on her
1:22:27 screen so maybe if you could nod right
1:22:29 now if you want us to share that on the
1:22:31 screen while i'm going through it
1:22:32 that would be helpful
1:22:35 i'm seeing at least one nod so clerk
1:22:37 geezer could you throw that out for us
1:22:42 um again asking for feedback or any
1:22:45 questions you might have the three and
1:22:47 it's on the second page
1:22:49 uh the three
1:22:50 overarching priorities of the committee
1:22:53 are to increase capital resources for
1:22:55 affordable housing
1:22:56 to um support local jurisdictions
1:22:59 planning for increasing affordable
1:23:00 housing and to support housing stability
1:23:02 through tenant protections and cover 19
1:23:04 recovery um
1:23:07 i think personally that this draft
1:23:10 agenda aligns um nicely with our city
1:23:12 positions
1:23:15 it's also shorter than usual because
1:23:16 we're heading into a supplemental
1:23:18 legislative session in olympia which
1:23:20 means there's not going to be as many
1:23:22 big budget requests
1:23:24 it also includes language on supporting
1:23:26 flexibility at the local level
1:23:28 and providing additional funding for
1:23:29 jurisdictions to update their
1:23:31 comprehensive plans
1:23:33 um to support implementation of house
1:23:35 bill 1220 which was the bill that
1:23:37 shelley
1:23:38 brought up to us last week that has to
1:23:40 do with emergency shelters and housing
1:23:43 through local planning and development
1:23:45 regulations
1:23:47 in our comprehensive plan um
1:23:50 so i guess just opening it up to the
1:23:52 floor now if anyone has any concerns or
1:23:55 questions or comments feel free to
1:23:58 put in the chat otherwise i'll just
1:24:00 take silence as tacit support
1:24:06 thank you councilmember hall
1:24:08 and city clerk geezer i think we can
1:24:10 stop sharing
1:24:13 didn't
1:24:14 i don't see anybody adding into the chat
1:24:17 right now
1:24:18 thank you for sharing that um i think
1:24:20 it's really great when you bring back
1:24:22 these regional legislative agendas as
1:24:24 well and talk about alignment with our
1:24:26 own city priorities that's really
1:24:27 helpful thank you
1:24:29 let's go to council member goodman for
1:24:31 good of the order
1:24:33 uh thank you mayor polly councilmember
1:24:35 goodman here um as council president had
1:24:37 mentioned during her report out i wanted
1:24:42 bring um uh
1:24:45 talk for a little bit about um the title
1:24:47 18 ad hoc
1:24:49 um committee
1:24:51 and um
1:24:52 i just have some questions about scope
1:24:55 um i think it's a good check-in point
1:24:58 given that we talked about this
1:25:01 what i'm going to talk about at our last
1:25:02 ad hoc committee um as a brief reminder
1:25:04 just for council members and also for
1:25:06 anybody who might be listening or
1:25:08 watching this later um in late 2019 i
1:25:12 think it was um we forwarded form the
1:25:14 title 18 ad hoc committee and on that ad
1:25:17 hoc committee right now is me and
1:25:19 council president hunt and council
1:25:20 member walsh
1:25:22 and the
1:25:24 the ad hoc committee's
1:25:27 responsibility was um planning and
1:25:30 approaches to the land use update and
1:25:32 specifically
1:25:34 um initially it was
1:25:36 project um to determine and help with
1:25:38 project scope
1:25:41 stakeholders such as who would they
1:25:42 would be
1:25:43 public engagement plan and the city
1:25:45 council's review process
1:25:48 and then last march
1:25:50 the council
1:25:52 expanded on that scope
1:25:54 and the what we agreed to expand it to
1:25:58 is this
1:26:00 to direct that committee to continue
1:26:02 meeting on the planning phase of the
1:26:04 project and expand its scope to include
1:26:08 making recommendations on the policy
1:26:10 decisions within the land use code
1:26:13 update
1:26:14 through project completion and also to
1:26:16 direct the committee to provide monthly
1:26:18 reports to the city council returning to
1:26:20 council study sessions to receive
1:26:22 feedback at quarterly intervals or more
1:26:24 frequently as needed
1:26:26 um so i'll come back to that um expanded
1:26:30 scope in a minute for the past
1:26:34 i'm going to say few months
1:26:36 um i think you'll recall that initially
1:26:38 there was a little bumpy start with
1:26:40 um the
1:26:42 ppc there was a lot of material going to
1:26:44 pcc and it was a little bit and it was a
1:26:46 little bit rough and um so the um
1:26:51 i'm just going to say staff although
1:26:53 it's um
1:26:54 director dollywood and a couple of staff
1:26:55 members um attended our
1:26:58 our ad hoc committee meeting we provided
1:27:01 feedback and i'm going to let other
1:27:03 people chime in with their recollection
1:27:07 provided some feedback on
1:27:09 ways that maybe you could help you know
1:27:12 um a little bit with those presentations
1:27:15 and what it evolved into in the past
1:27:18 few months is
1:27:20 the ad hoc committee reviewing the
1:27:22 materials before they went to the ppc
1:27:25 meetings with the ad hoc committee
1:27:28 just being asked to provide general
1:27:30 feedback and the feedback
1:27:34 opportunities were
1:27:37 you know not not limited we could
1:27:39 provide feedback on whatever we wanted
1:27:42 and so
1:27:43 last week before our ad hoc committee
1:27:46 meeting i which was thursday
1:27:49 i just started thinking about whether
1:27:51 um this was appropriate for the ad hoc
1:27:53 committee to be be providing that
1:27:56 level of feedback reviewing
1:27:58 materials
1:28:00 before they went to a commission
1:28:04 and so we had a discussion about it at
1:28:06 ad hoc and i'm concerned that that is
1:28:08 beyond the scope of what the city
1:28:10 council expected us to do
1:28:13 and i'm kind of alone in that opinion
1:28:16 but um my other ad hoc committee members
1:28:18 were um gracious and allowing me to
1:28:21 bring this forward and not opposing that
1:28:23 so that's why i brought it up a bit of
1:28:24 the order
1:28:25 because i thought it was a at least a
1:28:27 good opportunity for us to have a
1:28:29 conversation about what the council
1:28:31 expected from the ad hoc committee
1:28:36 back to the expansion so again the the
1:28:40 original scope was project scope
1:28:42 stakeholders public engagement plan and
1:28:45 the city council review process and
1:28:48 we've worked a lot on the first three
1:28:49 not not really much on the last one
1:28:51 there except for maybe schedule and
1:28:53 that's been a while now um and then the
1:28:56 it was expanded to include making
1:28:58 recommendations on the policy decisions
1:29:00 within the land use code um
1:29:04 i don't remember exactly what the
1:29:06 conversation was about last march when
1:29:08 we talked about this
1:29:10 my senses it would be recommendations to
1:29:13 the full council when policy decisions
1:29:15 come to the council
1:29:17 but not to be reviewing materials
1:29:21 before they go to a committee so anyway
1:29:23 that's why i'm bringing it up and i'll
1:29:25 let council president hunt and
1:29:27 council member walsh um
1:29:29 speak for themselves about
1:29:32 how they feel and other council members
1:29:35 i would appreciate if you would weigh in
1:29:38 and i don't have any
1:29:40 particular
1:29:42 you know plan on what we need to move
1:29:44 forward i just thought it was a good
1:29:45 place to start to have a conversation
1:29:47 about what everybody expects and then if
1:29:49 we need to do something else we will
1:29:51 thank you councilmember goodman uh
1:29:53 councilmember walsh
1:29:55 thank you this is councilmember walsh um
1:29:58 i would be curious to hear what the
1:29:59 other council members uh think about
1:30:02 this i think
1:30:03 um from my perspective looking even at
1:30:06 the original
1:30:11 you know scope of work it said
1:30:14 uh it's proposed the city council
1:30:16 established an ad hoc committee to make
1:30:18 recommendation on the planning and
1:30:20 approach to the land use update
1:30:23 and so speaking on the planning and
1:30:25 approach and then also
1:30:27 one of the bullet points underneath the
1:30:29 public engagement plan
1:30:31 most of what we've been talking about
1:30:35 in the last few sessions has been really
1:30:38 about
1:30:38 how we approach
1:30:40 the title 18
1:30:43 update
1:30:44 within these commissions whether or not
1:30:47 the information that the staff is
1:30:49 presenting is clear for these
1:30:52 hard-working commissions and making sure
1:30:55 that they have the information
1:30:58 needed
1:30:59 to provide effective feedback that's
1:31:02 going to help us as council make a
1:31:04 decision so
1:31:05 i i not only feel like this is a very
1:31:09 important and essential
1:31:11 area of our work in order to make sure
1:31:14 that the title 18 update that council
1:31:17 gets back to us is
1:31:20 well thought through and well worked
1:31:22 through
1:31:23 but i do believe it's within the scope
1:31:27 the original
1:31:29 um established motion on the ad hoc but
1:31:33 i would love to hear more from everyone
1:31:35 thanks councilmember walsh council
1:31:37 president hunt
1:31:40 thanks
1:31:41 um as as councilmember goodman knows i
1:31:45 don't share this concern about us
1:31:49 being out of scope i think we're
1:31:51 squarely within the scope as i
1:31:53 understand it i think a separate
1:31:55 question is if there are ways that we
1:31:58 could do this um
1:32:00 ways that we could interact
1:32:02 as an ad hoc committee that are
1:32:05 more effective and so i think we
1:32:09 can continue to
1:32:11 work on
1:32:14 and and basically my
1:32:17 overall feeling is that we have
1:32:19 this title 18 process that's very
1:32:22 important to
1:32:23 get done and to get it done
1:32:25 on track
1:32:26 and to have it
1:32:28 go through the
1:32:29 public engagement process that we've
1:32:31 laid out
1:32:33 so that we aren't using code that in
1:32:35 some cases is decades old and no longer
1:32:38 adhering to best practices so that's
1:32:40 really my
1:32:41 my goal for this committee i think we
1:32:43 are within scope i think we should
1:32:45 continue to
1:32:47 continue to
1:32:48 revisit how we do our work so that we
1:32:52 be as effective and use our time as
1:32:54 effectively as possible um but i don't
1:32:57 share that concern about being out of
1:32:59 scope
1:33:00 so thank you we've now heard from all
1:33:02 three members of the ad hoc committee
1:33:05 which is great and i'm sure the four
1:33:08 that are not serving probably have some
1:33:10 questions so let's start with uh council
1:33:13 member hall
1:33:15 uh thank you councilmember hall here um
1:33:17 so two quick questions so first just a
1:33:18 clarifying question so that um what
1:33:21 we're discussing really is
1:33:23 if this practice of reviewing before it
1:33:26 goes to ppc or um
1:33:30 is if that's within current scope
1:33:33 of the
1:33:34 ad hoc committee is that is that the
1:33:36 question essentially we're discussing
1:33:38 right now councilmember goodman did you
1:33:40 wanna
1:33:42 sure thank you um councilmember goodman
1:33:44 here i yeah i think that's one of the
1:33:47 one of the concerns that i have and um
1:33:52 i think that
1:33:54 not speaking for them but based on the
1:33:56 conversation we had at ad hoc last week
1:33:58 i do believe that the other two members
1:34:00 of the committee um
1:34:02 at least we all agree that we're we have
1:34:04 been way too far in the weeds with that
1:34:06 review those were the words i think all
1:34:08 three of us agreed
1:34:10 um too
1:34:11 um but yes i had become concerned that
1:34:14 we are reviewing materials
1:34:20 would are going to a commission
1:34:23 and then also getting
1:34:25 hearing about what that
1:34:30 what the commission's feedback was which
1:34:32 all of that is public information that's
1:34:34 no that's no big deal
1:34:36 um but i think the the issue i have with
1:34:39 reviewing materials that are going to go
1:34:41 to ppc is then a committee of three has
1:34:44 an opportunity to shape what goes to a
1:34:47 commission i'm not sure that that's our
1:34:49 within our scope of
1:34:51 work and not sure that that's the right
1:34:53 thing to do not only not not to mention
1:34:55 that that's
1:34:56 reviewing the materials and providing
1:34:58 feedback for revisions and whatnot
1:35:00 that's staff's work but my my concern
1:35:03 really is about whether or not we should
1:35:05 be reviewing materials which gives three
1:35:07 people an opportunity to
1:35:11 shape
1:35:12 what goes before a commission
1:35:15 um and i realize maybe we can help with
1:35:17 things that are left out um
1:35:19 but i just am concerned that that's
1:35:23 not within our scope
1:35:26 that's
1:35:28 that's my concern thank you i appreciate
1:35:30 your clarifying that um so my quick so
1:35:33 my second question then is um because i
1:35:36 know we were at a previous meeting we
1:35:38 were all concerned about the workload so
1:35:41 question is is has that been asked has
1:35:43 this question
1:35:45 about this practice been asked to the
1:35:46 ppc whether it would be helpful or if it
1:35:49 is helpful currently with their current
1:35:52 work i guess question for administration
1:35:56 i think um maybe city mr bob quits might
1:35:59 want to have staff address that one if
1:36:02 they have any thoughts on that
1:36:05 yes thank you madam mayor members of the
1:36:07 council i know that director dolly wall
1:36:10 is here and i now see she's joined
1:36:14 director dolly while you want to speak
1:36:16 to your thoughts on
1:36:18 where the commissions are
1:36:19 on this
1:36:23 good evening council members um yes so
1:36:25 um you know we haven't really
1:36:27 asked the commissioners whether it's
1:36:30 useful for them for staff to go to the
1:36:33 committee before we come to them
1:36:35 of course um our focus is always to make
1:36:39 we give the information to commission
1:36:41 that is useful for them so
1:36:44 um but the exact question i think if
1:36:46 you're asking if the commission boards
1:36:48 and commissions have an opinion on
1:36:49 whether we're going to
1:36:51 title 18 ad hoc committee first
1:36:54 i don't think they they know that or
1:36:57 they we've asked that question of them
1:36:59 at this point
1:37:03 council member hall i'm going to stick
1:37:04 with you and see if you have any other
1:37:07 questions because we have some others
1:37:08 lined up as well
1:37:13 i'm okay for now thanks mayor paulie
1:37:14 i'll let the others make their comments
1:37:16 okay great
1:37:18 uh let's go to
1:37:20 corsair lost truck i think it is council
1:37:24 deputy council president ray thank you
1:37:26 mayor paulie and thank you uh council
1:37:28 members
1:37:29 for the update on ad hoc
1:37:32 um i have a kind of a little different
1:37:34 bent on this discussion so it's very
1:37:37 timely but if this committee has been in
1:37:41 effect for two years if it's meeting
1:37:44 regularly which it is
1:37:46 is this really an ad hoc committee at
1:37:48 all and there was a day not so very long
1:37:51 ago when we used to have a committee of
1:37:52 the council that dealt with the very
1:37:55 complex issues that are around land use
1:37:57 and it was a standing committee so that
1:37:59 it could deal with the thorny issues
1:38:02 and the important and complex issues
1:38:04 around land use
1:38:07 i think we
1:38:09 we supplanted the function of that
1:38:11 committee with this ad hoc
1:38:13 the the land and shore committee used to
1:38:16 meet regularly and it was uh televised
1:38:19 and it was youtube so that council
1:38:21 members could could look at the
1:38:23 proceedings of the committee something
1:38:25 we can't do right now so we have great
1:38:27 confidence in you and we appreciate the
1:38:29 updates that the council president does
1:38:31 at our council meetings but we're not
1:38:34 part of or nor is the public part of the
1:38:36 conversations that are going on um i
1:38:39 think when we conceived this idea it
1:38:41 made some sense because we didn't expect
1:38:44 this would be two years later and that
1:38:46 the committee would be meeting every two
1:38:47 weeks to to move this uh process forward
1:38:51 so i i i guess i have kind of a
1:38:53 different question to ask and that is is
1:38:55 this the right tool and are we providing
1:38:57 the transparency and the visibility that
1:38:59 we owe the public into this discussions
1:39:02 that are going on and then just from a
1:39:05 you know purely council member
1:39:06 perspective
1:39:08 i really can't go and ask you about hey
1:39:10 what you guys talk about because then we
1:39:12 have a we have a potential um open
1:39:15 meeting violation so i have no um
1:39:18 visibility into the discussion so
1:39:21 um so i'm just gonna
1:39:23 put it out there and say um we may have
1:39:26 a different question we need to wrestle
1:39:28 right here
1:39:29 thank you deputy council president ray
1:39:31 there's a couple of questions buried in
1:39:32 there one is i think you hit the nail on
1:39:34 the head with what councilmember goodman
1:39:36 was talking about was of
1:39:39 you know what what is the content of
1:39:40 what is going on in ad hoc meeting and
1:39:43 is ad hoc sticking to the limited scope
1:39:46 that she seems to her interpretation of
1:39:49 the scope is it should be this it
1:39:50 shouldn't be content of what is going
1:39:53 necessarily to a um
1:39:57 a border commission
1:39:58 our past practice was that you know
1:40:00 things would be come up through the
1:40:02 board and commission process
1:40:04 show up at council on consent agenda and
1:40:07 before the committee
1:40:09 um and so there wasn't opining on uh
1:40:13 you know policy changes or policy
1:40:15 direction so it is different and i think
1:40:17 the other question there is for the city
1:40:19 clerk um ad hocs have are defined in a
1:40:22 certain way and it i don't necessarily
1:40:24 know that it has a length of time but
1:40:25 let's get our way in on it it's
1:40:27 definitely task specific get your task
1:40:29 done here's your parameters what the
1:40:31 task is and then you're done
1:40:34 so it depends on what you expect from
1:40:35 the ad hoc um i think what i'm hearing
1:40:37 from council member goodman is that
1:40:40 it can't go as far as the committee used
1:40:42 to go it's that's not what it was set up
1:40:45 for but i'll let councilmember goodman
1:40:46 answer herself
1:40:54 what was the question i thought we had a
1:40:55 question for anthony clark i didn't know
1:40:57 there was a question i think i think
1:40:59 there's two is what council member ray
1:41:01 our deputy council president race is
1:41:03 saying about is this committee work and
1:41:05 should it be going to a committee is
1:41:07 that what your issue is and the second
1:41:09 one was for the city clerk is this an
1:41:11 appropriate use of an ad hoc and are
1:41:12 they staying within the scope of what an
1:41:14 ad hoc can do legally do
1:41:16 well so in answer to the first question
1:41:18 i think council member uh council deputy
1:41:21 president rank brings up a really good
1:41:22 point that wasn't my reason for bringing
1:41:24 it forward to see if maybe the time has
1:41:26 come to make this a different kind of a
1:41:29 uh committee that is um
1:41:31 subject to opma
1:41:33 which means it would be a public
1:41:34 committee and people can come and listen
1:41:36 to us and and potentially participate i
1:41:39 think that's a really good question
1:41:44 that's
1:41:45 that is
1:41:46 certainly um i can certainly see how
1:41:48 that would be raised out of my what i
1:41:51 brought forward um
1:41:53 that's
1:41:54 and the second one i don't know the
1:41:55 answer to that was for the city clerk
1:41:57 yeah it's gonna ask city clerk to weigh
1:41:59 in tisha
1:42:01 yes so the council rule um specified
1:42:04 that the ad hoc committee will be um
1:42:06 convened for a specific time frame or
1:42:09 duration so the duration that was
1:42:11 identified in the scope that was
1:42:13 modified in march
1:42:15 2020 was through project completion
1:42:18 so in the case
1:42:20 of the ad hoc committees we've had this
1:42:21 certainly would be the most
1:42:23 long-standing but there was some sort of
1:42:26 time frame put on it in the scope so
1:42:28 from my perspective it meets
1:42:31 that requirement
1:42:34 um to the second part of deputy council
1:42:36 president's rate question
1:42:38 ray's question of where does this belong
1:42:44 based on the scope of what the ad hoc
1:42:45 has been assigned to do which you have
1:42:47 reviewed at city clerk is this
1:42:49 appropriate to be in an ad hoc committee
1:42:51 or is this
1:42:52 committee work getting done in an ad hoc
1:42:54 committee
1:42:59 so the council rules don't really
1:43:01 distinguish um
1:43:03 you know the the difference between the
1:43:06 standing committee versus the ad hoc
1:43:08 committee is that the rules specify an
1:43:10 ad hoc committees
1:43:12 convened for a special purpose or work
1:43:14 plan item versus just accepting certain
1:43:17 topics for referral
1:43:19 by the council so the the procedure is
1:43:23 different um but i don't see that um
1:43:27 just because the scope of this ad hoc is
1:43:29 is broader than maybe some others in the
1:43:32 past i i still see this ad hoc as being
1:43:34 in alignment with the current version of
1:43:36 the council rules
1:43:39 i see sitter mr bobkowitz turned his
1:43:41 camera on
1:43:43 yes madam mayor and let me just read a
1:43:46 couple of lines from the council's rules
1:43:49 because i
1:43:50 i i think the city clerk and i are not
1:43:52 here really to opine
1:43:54 um opinions we're really here just to
1:43:57 kind of help you understand what your
1:43:58 rules say uh but it says under uh
1:44:01 section
1:44:02 6.01 a
1:44:05 the second sentence of that ad hoc
1:44:07 committee shall be convened to address
1:44:09 work plan items that require special
1:44:11 approach or emphasis so i think that's a
1:44:13 you know this ad hoc is a textbook uh
1:44:16 definition of that
1:44:18 it's a work plan item there's certainly
1:44:20 special approach and emphasis so
1:44:23 you know i think that's a useful line to
1:44:25 look at when you're deciding is it fit
1:44:27 or not um so i raised that there are
1:44:30 other pieces to the
1:44:32 6.01 but i think that's probably the one
1:44:34 that i would urge the council to
1:44:36 consider is this addressing a work plan
1:44:38 item that requires special approach or
1:44:40 emphasis
1:44:42 and they i'm going to
1:44:44 go back to councilmember goodman in a
1:44:47 second i just want to
1:44:50 make sure that we end up when we are
1:44:52 finished with the questions that we end
1:44:55 up having
1:44:56 the council members
1:44:58 the four that are not sitting respond to
1:45:00 council member goodman's request which
1:45:03 is a little different than where we just
1:45:04 wandered down so i'm back to
1:45:06 councilmember goodman
1:45:09 uh thank you councilmember goodman here
1:45:11 so just to clarify i didn't bring it
1:45:12 forward thinking that
1:45:14 we were
1:45:15 doing something illegal or that we were
1:45:17 outside the council rules um really the
1:45:20 reason was um i thought we were astray
1:45:22 from what the council had originally
1:45:25 asked us to do and so i just thought it
1:45:27 was a good idea and you can ask you know
1:45:29 my fellow ad hoc committee members that
1:45:31 you know a good idea to come forward
1:45:33 with a council an opportunity for the
1:45:35 council to weigh in what their ex
1:45:38 expectations
1:45:39 are for this committee um
1:45:42 and um and i you know again i also since
1:45:46 he raised it i do think that deputy
1:45:48 council president rey has a has a um
1:45:51 a credible question about whether it
1:45:53 continues on after two years as a
1:45:56 behind-the-scenes committee it's a
1:45:57 significant topic it has great public
1:46:00 importance um and so i do think that
1:46:02 that's a good question um but
1:46:05 i wasn't it wasn't because i thought we
1:46:07 were doing anything
1:46:09 outside the bounds of the law or the or
1:46:11 the council rules that's i just want to
1:46:12 make that clear thank you for that
1:46:14 clarification uh so we'll go to a few
1:46:16 more people and then i'm just going to
1:46:18 double check back with the four and make
1:46:20 sure you've had an opportunity to
1:46:22 provide some feedback i think next up
1:46:24 was council member hearts
1:46:27 thank you madam mayor this is council
1:46:28 member martin i will
1:46:30 uh address council member goodman's uh
1:46:32 comment uh i completely agree
1:46:36 i think that
1:46:38 i you know i've said before the power of
1:46:40 our commissions
1:46:42 is in giving them
1:46:47 i don't want to say unfettered review
1:46:49 but giving them the chance to
1:46:52 explore
1:46:54 and dive into policy
1:46:59 you know on with
1:47:01 without uh
1:47:03 bias unbiased review i guess is what i
1:47:06 would say and so um i think if we are
1:47:11 cherry-picking
1:47:13 what we send to them we're not
1:47:15 we're not getting the most that we can
1:47:17 out of our commissions and so
1:47:19 i think the idea of going from committee
1:47:22 you know council committee whether you
1:47:23 call it an ad hoc or something else went
1:47:25 from a county uh council committee to a
1:47:29 commission back to the council i'm i'm
1:47:31 not i don't think it's a i don't think
1:47:33 it's the right thing to do however going
1:47:36 from commissions
1:47:38 uh to committees to the council
1:47:41 you know i'll say again what i've been
1:47:43 saying for quite some time which is i
1:47:45 think we need to go back to committees i
1:47:48 think landon shore did
1:47:50 vast amounts of work over the last 10
1:47:53 years and
1:47:55 all three uh
1:47:58 committees that we had did a lot of work
1:48:00 but landon shore in particular
1:48:03 and so you start you know you start with
1:48:04 mayoral commissions and then you go to
1:48:07 committees that can dive in in ways that
1:48:09 we can't when we have five
1:48:13 regular
1:48:14 agenda items on a meeting that we only
1:48:16 have every couple weeks i mean
1:48:18 the administration does a good job of
1:48:20 giving us background information in our
1:48:22 study sessions
1:48:24 but you know i i would solve the deputy
1:48:26 council president's
1:48:29 conundrum about ad hoc versus regular
1:48:31 committees by going back to having
1:48:32 committees uh standing committees then
1:48:35 we don't have any
1:48:37 linguistic or uh procedural question
1:48:40 there so that's my thought i but i i do
1:48:42 think that
1:48:44 the ad hoc committee
1:48:47 should be going to the commissions
1:48:49 allowing the commissions the broadest
1:48:51 latitude to review these things
1:48:53 unfettered by
1:48:56 pre-existing opinions of of council
1:48:58 members thank you
1:49:00 thank you councilmembers i'm going to
1:49:02 take a a little pause right now and ask
1:49:05 the three ad-hoc committee members um
1:49:08 council member
1:49:09 marth has heard
1:49:11 he has what he has heard tonight is that
1:49:14 that this committee might be
1:49:16 cherry-picking um certain topics to move
1:49:19 forward in a certain way and i'm not
1:49:21 sure that that's what i was hearing from
1:49:23 council member goodman
1:49:25 uh and so i just want to clarify and i'm
1:49:27 i would like all three of you guys maybe
1:49:28 to chime in on that start with
1:49:30 councilmember goodman
1:49:35 thank you um
1:49:38 i don't know if
1:49:40 he had to say it again if
1:49:42 councilmember martz would say
1:49:44 cherup cherry
1:49:46 picking i'm not sure
1:49:48 i don't think we're cherry-picking
1:49:50 um i think we are
1:49:52 really what happens is you know a couple
1:49:55 days before the meeting we are sent the
1:49:58 draft packets that are going to be sent
1:50:00 to ppc and said here you go we're going
1:50:02 to talk about them bring your feedback
1:50:04 and so we go we just we've been going
1:50:06 through the packets and providing
1:50:07 feedback um and things might get changed
1:50:11 things might not get changed
1:50:13 we've talked about approaches we've
1:50:14 gotten into the weeds we've talked about
1:50:16 whether or not the questions are right
1:50:18 so they really are substantive reviews
1:50:20 um but i wouldn't characterize it as
1:50:24 cherry picking
1:50:25 okay i'm not sure if the other two ad
1:50:28 hoc committee members want to add in
1:50:29 because this is the work of an ad hoc
1:50:31 and and the other four that are here
1:50:33 tonight are very interested in what
1:50:35 you're doing and how you do it so
1:50:37 lindsay or vicky did either one of you
1:50:39 wanna chime in
1:50:43 two yeah just to add we don't make
1:50:46 decisions so i think that's one of the
1:50:49 critical differences from
1:50:51 the work that we do and the approach
1:50:53 that we use compared to
1:50:55 a land insurer or a committee we don't
1:50:57 vote we don't make decisions we don't
1:50:59 direct
1:51:01 what to keep in or what to not put in
1:51:04 the packet i mean like for some examples
1:51:06 of things recently
1:51:08 there have been cases where there's been
1:51:12 incomplete information
1:51:14 in part of the information that was
1:51:16 provided so
1:51:18 for example
1:51:19 it was saying that there are different
1:51:21 affordable housing strategies in the
1:51:23 affordable housing strategy work plan
1:51:25 and and then it didn't say which had
1:51:26 been adopted it just sort of listed some
1:51:28 of the strategies that we have as
1:51:29 background so i said in that meeting i
1:51:32 thought we should
1:51:33 um let the committee also know what we
1:51:35 have done instead of just what the
1:51:37 strategies are that we've adopted and
1:51:39 said we would look at so
1:51:41 um so that's you know we give feedback
1:51:43 about what we think
1:51:46 would move this process forward like i
1:51:48 said i think that's really the
1:51:50 what we've been tasked to do is in my
1:51:53 opinion is we've been tasked to
1:51:57 continue the process of meeting in ways
1:52:00 that help advance
1:52:03 this code we also look a lot at our
1:52:06 public document that has the goals and
1:52:08 outcomes charts and look at that for
1:52:11 alignment
1:52:12 and and how we can continue to use that
1:52:14 as a sort of guiding light for
1:52:16 these
1:52:18 these processes but again we're not even
1:52:20 in the code writing phase so we're not
1:52:22 looking at code
1:52:24 we're not helping write code
1:52:26 we're not making decisions we're not
1:52:27 voting we're giving feedback to help
1:52:29 advance the process and as councilmember
1:52:32 goodwin mentioned too there has been
1:52:34 some learning and there's been some
1:52:36 rocky parts of this process and so i
1:52:38 think you know we
1:52:40 have been meeting on this we know the
1:52:42 topics well at this point
1:52:46 council member walsh and i were also
1:52:48 planning policy commissioners previously
1:52:52 we're
1:52:53 we're trying to keep the process moving
1:52:54 forward
1:52:57 using that guiding light document as i
1:52:59 said but it's it's not as
1:53:03 you know if you're in a committee you
1:53:04 would actually take votes on things and
1:53:06 we're definitely not doing that so it
1:53:07 has a different feel
1:53:10 and i think it's i think it's what we
1:53:15 uh tasked with the doing so
1:53:17 councilmember walsh did you want to add
1:53:19 to that
1:53:20 um i very much appreciate both of those
1:53:24 um points that i would agree with
1:53:27 both from um
1:53:29 council president hunt and council
1:53:30 member goodman
1:53:33 there is nothing i
1:53:35 i've heard said
1:53:37 in that meeting that i don't think
1:53:39 anybody would be willing to say on
1:53:41 camera
1:53:43 this is
1:53:45 a policy discussion it's
1:53:48 more of clarifying
1:53:50 the information
1:53:52 going to uh in the memos so that we get
1:53:56 back the
1:53:58 fully thought out um process so that's
1:54:02 thank you i'm going to continue around
1:54:04 the room here we have council member d
1:54:07 michelle
1:54:09 thank you mayor paulie um
1:54:12 i'm really appreciative of the this
1:54:15 latter conversation that we just had
1:54:17 because
1:54:18 um as uh deputy council president
1:54:22 ray pointed out we're not privy to the
1:54:24 conversations
1:54:25 so you just kind of have to read between
1:54:28 the lines and try and figure out what's
1:54:29 going on
1:54:31 so i think there was a good
1:54:32 clarification here i was all ready to
1:54:35 well that's not your role but now that
1:54:37 i've heard the explanation from
1:54:40 um from the three ad hoc committee
1:54:43 members it sounds like that's very much
1:54:45 their role
1:54:47 i think
1:54:49 i mean i identify this as a
1:54:50 communications problem um are we putting
1:54:54 um items
1:54:55 clearly in front of
1:54:57 the commissions and boards that need to
1:55:00 give us feedback and are we asking them
1:55:02 the right questions and
1:55:05 i think that is absolutely within
1:55:08 um the purview of this committee if
1:55:12 this ad hoc committee
1:55:14 if there is a feeling that the
1:55:15 communications are not being clearly
1:55:18 conveyed between
1:55:20 the ad hoc committee and the boards of
1:55:22 commissions that clear that conversation
1:55:25 needs to be clear and well laid out so
1:55:27 that we get the feedback that we need to
1:55:30 get so
1:55:31 that's my comments and again thanks for
1:55:34 the clarification from everybody
1:55:37 i'm going to circle back
1:55:39 and see if we can get some additional
1:55:41 feedback from council member hall
1:55:46 oh sure um this is councilmember hall i
1:55:47 guess based on what i've heard um up
1:55:49 until now though i guess i'm just not
1:55:52 very worried at this point i don't think
1:55:54 the ad hoc
1:55:55 helping form
1:55:56 process and information flow efficiency
1:55:59 our communications like um
1:56:01 councilmember michelle just mentioned
1:56:03 is the same as the ad hoc shaping what
1:56:05 we expect to come back to us with the
1:56:06 full council i think
1:56:08 it fits within the current purview so
1:56:09 i'm i'm happy with the direction it's
1:56:11 going now
1:56:13 okay i'm also just going to do a
1:56:14 check-in again with council uh deputy
1:56:17 council president ray and council member
1:56:18 marks
1:56:19 deputy council president ray
1:56:22 thank you mayor polly chris ray
1:56:24 so my question about ad hoc versus
1:56:26 standing committee had nothing to do
1:56:27 with whether or not the ad hoc was
1:56:29 legitimate and it is legitimate my
1:56:31 question about ad hoc was is it
1:56:33 appropriate
1:56:34 um and so and i don't feel like we've
1:56:37 answered that question there's a
1:56:38 transparency issue here for me in a huge
1:56:41 way and
1:56:43 and because we don't know
1:56:46 we we rely on very um i appreciate the
1:56:50 bi-weekly updates we get from the
1:56:51 council president on the committee's
1:56:53 progress but it is um a couple minutes
1:56:56 that represents um weeks worth of work
1:57:00 my my
1:57:01 my point here is
1:57:03 don't know don't know if what you're
1:57:05 doing is right or wrong i have no idea
1:57:07 of what you're doing is right or wrong
1:57:09 or appropriate but i want to and the way
1:57:12 that i get to that is by making these
1:57:15 meetings transparent and so i will push
1:57:18 for that i will push for making these
1:57:20 meetings
1:57:21 public and transparent so we can all see
1:57:23 what's going on and and i think every
1:57:25 one of you who i know you all well is a
1:57:28 big advocate of transparency and so um
1:57:31 you know this this just seems like the
1:57:32 right thing to do to me it's like we
1:57:33 just need to pivot this thing and make
1:57:35 it um
1:57:36 make it more accessible to the public
1:57:39 and make it more accessible to
1:57:41 the other council members
1:57:45 and i'm going to go to councilmember
1:57:46 mart's
1:57:48 i have nothing upset
1:57:50 okay thank you councilmember mertz
1:57:54 a little bit of confusing feedback here
1:57:57 uh so i see a couple more people lining
1:58:00 up for comments and questions
1:58:02 i think um
1:58:03 the committee did the ad hoc did a good
1:58:06 job of explaining rules and
1:58:07 responsibilities and whether or not they
1:58:10 had personal concerns whether or not
1:58:12 that was the right scope
1:58:14 so i've also heard that um there is some
1:58:18 level of discomfort with
1:58:20 some folks about whether or not doing
1:58:23 this in ad hoc and using this ad hoc
1:58:25 team to provide guidance to staff prior
1:58:28 to boards and commissions is a good idea
1:58:32 so i'm a little confused about next
1:58:34 steps i'm not sure if
1:58:36 uh we'll continue on with the discussion
1:58:39 uh but i'm not sure if we've actually
1:58:41 landed anywhere yet so let's go to
1:58:44 council member goodman and then council
1:58:45 president
1:58:49 um i think council president hunt was
1:58:51 before me oh sorry council president
1:59:00 i'm not totally sure how to advance this
1:59:02 conversation either um it's it's
1:59:06 process conversation i guess not good at
1:59:08 the order um so that can be a bit of a
1:59:10 challenge but i think that
1:59:12 uh one suggestion which i raised
1:59:16 at the last when we were talking about
1:59:18 scope at the ad hoc meeting is is just
1:59:20 to make this more
1:59:21 of a process like what we did with the
1:59:23 goals and outcomes chart where we have a
1:59:25 document that we work on that becomes
1:59:27 public documents that is the guiding
1:59:29 light for like how we communicate
1:59:31 different things and that would be
1:59:33 transparent and that would be a work
1:59:34 product that we could use be more
1:59:36 efficient because we wouldn't be doing
1:59:37 the same thing over and over so um that
1:59:40 was one idea that i have and i'll throw
1:59:42 it up there in case it advances this
1:59:44 conversation
1:59:45 okay and i i do think we're getting
1:59:47 close to the edge of being beyond good
1:59:49 at the order and maybe ready for a
1:59:51 bigger discussion on an agenda at some
1:59:53 point in time um i'll cause i know staff
1:59:56 is gonna have to go away and think
1:59:58 through some of this as well
2:00:00 because currently they are the ones that
2:00:02 are benefiting from the guidance of the
2:00:03 ad hoc committee uh let's go to
2:00:06 councilmember gibbons and councilmember
2:00:07 walsh
2:00:09 thank you councilmember goodman here i
2:00:11 was thinking wondering if it's that if
2:00:14 there would be value in
2:00:19 getting some information maybe at uh our
2:00:22 next meeting about
2:00:25 what the possibility is of having the ad
2:00:28 hoc committee
2:00:29 um become a public
2:00:31 committee
2:00:32 and just what that looks like what the
2:00:34 requirements are what the changes would
2:00:36 be just to answer um just
2:00:39 to answer um
2:00:40 deputy council president rey's questions
2:00:43 and just to see what our options are
2:00:47 i like that
2:00:48 uh council member walsh
2:00:51 thanks this is councilmember walsh i
2:00:52 like that too because that was what i
2:00:54 was going to suggest as well so
2:00:56 we're thinking on mine build there
2:01:01 any more comments i think we have
2:01:04 a request to bring this to a regular
2:01:08 meeting for a discussion
2:01:10 and to have some information come back
2:01:13 from staff on it i'm not sure minnie or
2:01:15 wally if you have anything additional
2:01:17 you want to add at this point in time or
2:01:18 just take it back under consideration
2:01:20 for now
2:01:22 uh just the question of timing uh with
2:01:25 we you have a meeting in two weeks on
2:01:26 november 15th is that what you're
2:01:28 thinking is matamira that we would come
2:01:30 back i think this is also a city clerk
2:01:32 uh issue to help all this is part of the
2:01:34 council's rules so we can we can share
2:01:37 that but would you look to have to be on
2:01:39 regular business then for november 15th
2:01:44 i see one thumbs up
2:01:47 others
2:01:48 okay thank you do you have any comments
2:01:50 um you know no comments are just a
2:01:52 clarification so we our next uh
2:01:55 scheduled ad hoc committee is on
2:01:56 november 10th because the next one was
2:01:59 going to be
2:02:00 on 11th which is a holiday so we uh
2:02:02 we're going to meet on november 10th
2:02:05 now with coming back to council on the
2:02:08 um should we
2:02:10 postpone the 10th to the 15th
2:02:12 after
2:02:16 15th uh councilmember goodman um i'll
2:02:19 weigh in and others can um obviously
2:02:22 provide their own opinion i don't know
2:02:24 that we need to not meet i just think
2:02:26 that we should be mindful of the
2:02:28 comments that we've heard here i don't
2:02:30 know that we need to be reviewing the
2:02:32 materials but i think if there's
2:02:33 questions for the ad hoc
2:02:36 regarding
2:02:37 clarity
2:02:39 you know i don't think that that's an
2:02:41 issue at all
2:02:43 yeah thank you for the clarification
2:02:44 yeah i think the item we were going to
2:02:46 bring forth was um a topic to
2:02:50 see if that that particular code
2:02:52 amendment could be proceeded uh ahead of
2:02:55 the rest of the title 18 and that's one
2:02:57 of the chart the resolution that says ad
2:02:59 hoc committee will decide and make a
2:03:01 record you know um then it'll come to
2:03:03 council for a decision so
2:03:05 it's not the pack it's going to ppc is
2:03:07 uh what we were thinking of doing on the
2:03:09 10th okay well that sounds good minnie
2:03:11 thank you for that clarification
2:03:13 any more comments on this topic
2:03:16 not seeing anyone else in the chat
2:03:19 sounds like this is coming back in a
2:03:21 couple of weeks
2:03:23 okay thank you so we do still have an
2:03:25 additional item this evening which is
2:03:27 the executive session
2:03:29 so as earlier announced there will be an
2:03:31 executive session held this evening to
2:03:33 discuss pending potential litigation
2:03:35 for rcw 42.30 0.110 paren one for an i
2:03:41 and collective bargaining for rcw 42.30
2:03:44 0.14 paran4
2:03:47 the items are expected to last 35
2:03:49 minutes and no action is anticipated to
2:03:51 follow an open session so the executive
2:03:53 sessions are closed to the public and we
2:03:56 will now recess in at 9 04 pm and we'll
2:04:00 start with a 5 minute break so i will
2:04:02 see you around 9 10.

Attendance

Council / Members (7)
Barbara de Michele
Stacy Goodman
Zach Hall
Victoria Hunt
Tola Marts
Chris Reh
Lindsey Walsh

Motions and votes (7)

Adopt Ordinance No. 2956, levying property taxes for the City of Issaquah for the fiscal year commencing January 1, 2022, on all property, both real and personal, in said City which is subject to taxation for the purpose of paying sufficient revenue to carry on the services of the said City for the …
Moved by HUNT · seconded by REH
Carried 7-0
In favor: Barbara de Michele, Stacy Goodman, Zach Hall, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh
Adopt Ordinance No. 2957, amending Chapter 5.32 of the Issaquah Municipal Code relating to the utility business and occupation tax for water and sewer utilities; providing for referendum and establishing an effective date. . d)
Moved by HUNT · seconded by REH
Carried 7-0
In favor: Barbara de Michele, Stacy Goodman, Zach Hall, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh
Adopt Ordinance No. 2958, amending Chapter 3.64 and Section 109 of Chapter 16.04 of the Issaquah Municipal Code to apply a cost of living increase to the City’s land use and site work permit fees, building, plumbing and mechanical fees and additional fees for inspections, plan review and other relat…
Moved by HUNT · seconded by REH
Carried 7-0
In favor: Barbara de Michele, Stacy Goodman, Zach Hall, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh
Approve the updated Citywide performance measures.
Moved by HUNT · seconded by REH
Amend the performance measures by substituting the “Linear feet of walkways constructed and maintained” measure with “Total linear feet of walkways citywide”; and direct the Finance Director to include $10,000 in the proposed 2022 budget to survey the total length of sidewalks and trails in the City…
Moved by HUNT · seconded by WALSH
Carried 7-0
In favor: Barbara de Michele, Stacy Goodman, Zach Hall, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh
Main motion as amended: Authorize the Mayor to enter into an agreement with King County Regional Homelessness Authority (KCRHA) to administer ten (10) Emergency Housing Vouchers (EHV) that will support people experiencing or at imminent risk of homelessness. Without objection, the following substitu…
Moved by (main motion as amended) · seconded by
Carried 7-0
In favor: Barbara de Michele, Stacy Goodman, Zach Hall, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh
Main motion as amended: Amend the performance measures by substituting the “Linear feet of walkways constructed and maintained” measure with “Total linear feet of walkways citywide”; and direct the Finance Director to include $10,000 in the proposed 2022 budget to survey the total length of sidewalk…
Moved by (main motion as amended) · seconded by
Carried 7-0
In favor: Barbara de Michele, Stacy Goodman, Zach Hall, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh