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Monday, October 5, 2020

7:00 PM · 4h 7m
Topic tracked across meetings:
2021-2026 Six-Year Transportation Improvement Program AB 8031 3/3
Section
Topic
1. CALL TO ORDER
1a
First for Roll Call Vote: Councilmember Hall
6. CONSENT CALENDAR
6a
Accounts: Payables and Payroll of Oct. 5, 2020, $ 2,397,849.17 ID 0676
Approve · packet pp.5–29
Topics: Budget
Staff report:
Finance Department P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 Type text herePH: 425-837-3050 www.issaquahwa.gov
6b
Minutes: City Council Study Session, Sept. 15, 2020
Approve · packet pp.31–33
Staff report:
CONSENT CALENDAR b) 09-15-20 Council Study Session Minutes Page (0000)
6c
Minutes: City Council Regular Meeting, Sept. 21, 2020
Approve · packet pp.35–38
Staff report:
CONSENT CALENDAR c) 09-21-20 City Council Regular Meeting Minutes Page (0000)
6d
2021-2026 Six-Year Transportation Improvement Program AB 8031
Approve Resolution · packet pp.39–91
Topics: Transportation
Staff report:
RCW 35.77.010 requires all cities to develop and adopt a six-year TIP consistent with the comprehensive plan. State law requires the City review and update its TIP every year, following one or more public hearings. The deadline for adoption is July 1. Within 30 days of adoption, the TIP is required to be filed with the Washington State Secretary of Transportation.
6e
King County Cooperative Watershed Management Grant (Lower Issaquah Creek Stream and Riparian Habitat Enhancement Project) AB 8035
Carried 4-3
Authorize · packet pp.93–102
Topics: Water
Staff report:
SUMMARY STATEMENT
Roll call:
Moved by (main motion as amended) · seconded by
In favor: Barbara de Michele, Zach Hall, Tola Marts, Lindsey Walsh
Opposed: Goodman, Hunt, Reh
6g
Water System Projects to Enable Use of Additional Regional Water AB 8038
Authorize Additional Funding · packet pp.107–108
Topics: WaterBudget
Staff report:
At the June 23, 2020 Study Session, staff presented different water supply and water rate strategies (ID 0479). At the meeting, the City Council directed the Administration to proceed with the option titled "Discounted Cascade Water Alliance (CWA) Water." This option allows blending of discounted CWA water into well zones by 2021, thus allowing a temporary discontinuation of Gilman Well 5 pumping. These actions in turn allow for a delay in implementing a centralized water treatment facility to the early to mid-2030’s. This preferred option offered short and long-term savings similar to or better than other available options.
7. REGULAR BUSINESS
7a
Affordable Housing Sales & Use Tax AB 8047
Adopt Ordinance · packet pp.109–122
Topics: HousingLand UseBudget
Staff report:
In 2015, the Washington state legislature enacted legislation allowing any county to levy a sales tax up to 0.1% for affordable housing and related services. Initially, the tax increase required voter approval. In 2020, the legislature passed HB 1590 (Exhibit B), which allowed this tax to be passed using Councilmanic authority. The bill was codified in RCW 82.14.530.
8. GOOD OF THE ORDER
8a
Upcoming Council Meetings
0:04 welcome everyone I'm calling the October
0:06 Fest city council meeting to order and
0:09 before we move on to tonight's agenda
0:11 items I'd like to acknowledge our remote
0:13 meeting format on March 6th I issued an
0:17 emergency Proclamation declaring a civil
0:19 emergency in the city due to the
0:21 covid-19 outbreak on March 24th the
0:24 governor issued Proclamation
0:26 20-28 prohibiting meetings that fall
0:28 under the open public meeting meting act
0:30 such as our City Council meetings from
0:33 being conducted in person the
0:35 prohibition has been extended through
0:37 November 9th tonight's meeting will be
0:39 held entirely remotely the meeting will
0:41 be recorded streamed live and available
0:44 for later viewing on the city's YouTube
0:46 channel a call-in number was provided on
0:48 the meeting agenda for members of the
0:50 public who wish to call in by phone to
0:53 listen live to the meeting or to make
0:55 comments for those members of the public
0:57 on the call welcome for those of of you
1:00 who have submitted the online form to
1:02 make comments your name will be called
1:03 under the audience comment portion of
1:05 the meeting if there's anyone that is on
1:08 the call who did not sign up but would
1:10 like to make comments tonight please
1:12 press star three on your phone and we
1:15 will get you added to the speaker list
1:18 so at this point I'd like to take a
1:19 moment and do a roll call of our council
1:21 members and attendance please stay here
1:23 when I call your name council member D
1:26 Michelle here thank you council member
1:29 good
1:30 here thank you council member Hall here
1:34 thanks council president hunt here thank
1:37 you council member Marts here thank you
1:40 Deputy council president Ray here and
1:44 council member Walsh here great that's
1:47 all seven council members this evening
1:49 we also have City staff participating in
1:52 tonight's meeting including our city
1:53 administrator Wy Bob Kitz our Deputy
1:56 City administrator Andrea Snider parks
1:59 and Community Services director Jeff
2:01 wling our human services and social
2:04 sustainability coordinator Monica Nilla
2:07 our sustainability coordinator Megan
2:09 Curtis Murphy our City attorney Jim
2:12 Haney and our Deputy city clerk Tisha
2:14 gizer there may also be some other City
2:17 staff and attendance I know that Leo
2:19 Flur the director of the King County
2:21 Department of community and Human
2:22 Services is also joining us this evening
2:26 so I'm going to re reiterate a few of
2:28 our meeting guidelines
2:30 please speak clearly and pause
2:33 frequently state your name each time
2:36 before speaking please mute your
2:38 microphone when you're not speaking and
2:41 for members of the public if you are
2:43 also streaming the live video feed
2:45 please turn off the sound as there is a
2:47 delay so the next item on our agenda
2:50 this evening is the Pledge of Allegiance
2:52 and if I could get everyone to keep your
2:54 microphone muted I do welcome you to
2:57 join me in the Pledge of Allegiance
3:00 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
3:03 United States of America and to the
3:05 Republic for which it stands one nation
3:08 under God indivisible with liberty and
3:12 justice for
3:14 all thank you the next item on the
3:16 agenda this evening is audience comments
3:19 and so city clerk has anyone signed up
3:21 to speak or indicated a desire to speak
3:23 this
3:24 evening yes we have four callers tonight
3:28 thank you so for those making comments
3:30 please make sure to direct your comments
3:32 to the whole Council and not
3:34 individuals and while this is not a
3:36 question and answer session we will
3:38 contact you to follow up if needed when
3:40 you are recognized please unmute your
3:43 microphone state your name address and
3:47 relationship to the city speak clearly
3:50 and pause frequently you have up to five
3:53 minutes for comments and when you're
3:55 done please remute remute your
3:58 microphone if you do not respond after
4:00 your name or phone number is called or
4:02 if your connection is lost unexpectedly
4:05 the meeting will need to proceed and you
4:07 are encouraged to rejoin the meeting if
4:08 able and again for those of you who have
4:11 joined us tonight and would like to
4:12 speak but did not sign up in advance
4:15 please press star three on your phone we
4:17 will make the last we will call the last
4:19 two digits of your phone number when it
4:21 is your turn to make comments personal
4:23 attacks subscene language derogatory
4:26 remarks and disruptive behavior are not
4:28 permitted and if a speaker is out of
4:29 order I will ask them to stop and mute
4:32 their microphone if someone does not
4:34 comply I may have to direct staff to
4:36 mute their microphone and if A
4:38 disruption of the meeting occurs and
4:40 Order cannot be restored I may direct
4:42 staff to remove you from the call
4:44 citizen comments written in verbal are
4:46 an important aspect of the public
4:48 process and the city takes these
4:50 comments seriously we thank each of you
4:52 for taking the time to address this this
4:54 evening so city clerk can you please
4:57 identify the first person who signed up
4:59 to speak
5:00 yes Elizabeth maen Elizabeth I've
5:02 unmuted
5:04 you hello my name is Elizabeth mopan a
5:08 resident of
5:09 isqua um I live at 100 Big Bear
5:13 place I'd like to address AB
5:19 8047
5:22 ab813 and ab
5:27 8044 um these are the affordable housing
5:31 sales and use tax housing stability and
5:34 the Outreach and Case Management Service
5:37 PRI pilot
5:39 project um one of my friends at church
5:42 said in a discussion on race and Equity
5:45 that she lives in a
5:46 bubble I believe that many members of
5:49 the congregation felt that way if we
5:52 live surrounded by people who look like
5:55 us and are not aware of knowing anyone
5:58 in poverty we often know little of the
6:02 life outside this bubble and are likely
6:05 to make assumptions that are off the
6:06 mark concerning those outside our
6:09 intimate
6:10 Community I've spoken to the council
6:13 many times about the need for housing
6:16 that our residents and would be
6:18 residents who work in issaqua can
6:20 afford please do what you can to
6:23 increase the funds available to build
6:27 and to preserve such housing
6:30 tonight I'd like to address the proposal
6:33 to provide protections for renters and a
6:36 mediation process for landlords and
6:39 tenants that they can use when the
6:41 tenant is unable to pay their full
6:45 rent you already know that there are
6:48 many people who are not currently able
6:51 to pay their rent and that this may
6:53 continue for some time the mediation
6:57 process will save landlords from the
7:00 expense of going immediately to an
7:02 eviction
7:04 process but it will also allow them to
7:07 get pass their assumptions about why
7:09 rent is not being
7:12 paid they will be able to hear the real
7:16 life struggles of their
7:18 tenants tenants especially those who've
7:22 never been homeowners may not be aware
7:25 of all the financial responsibilities
7:27 that their landlord has taken on
7:31 with mistaken assumptions Stripped Away
7:34 in a mediation process people have the
7:38 opportunity to work
7:40 collaboratively and to find Creative
7:43 Solutions that will work better for all
7:46 concerned than would an eviction
7:50 process I believe that this process is
7:53 actually a community building process
7:57 that's much needed in our world of great
7:59 economic disparity and cultural
8:03 diversity as for the Outreach to those
8:06 Among Us who have lost their housing the
8:09 move to provide a local Outreach worker
8:12 is one I would
8:14 applaud the city has relied far too much
8:17 on our regional Outreach workers who
8:20 rarely visit issaqua and are not very
8:22 familiar with the local
8:25 community with our library and most
8:28 other community space is
8:30 closed I'm sure that it has been
8:32 challenging for them to find the people
8:34 who most need their
8:36 assistance and then when they do find
8:39 them they can only refer them out refer
8:43 them to outof town shelters and day
8:46 centers so I'm encouraged that we will
8:48 be hiring someone to focus on issaqua if
8:52 that measure is
8:54 past if you've not had time to apply for
8:58 if you've not had had reason to apply
9:00 for assistance yourself you might not
9:03 realize that most every Social Service
9:06 office is closed and access requires
9:09 filling out online
9:12 forms if you do not have a house you
9:16 probably do not have a computer and if
9:19 you do where will you plug it in if the
9:22 service provider wants to get back in
9:25 touch with you do you have a cell phone
9:28 do you have a way to keep it
9:30 charged for these reasons I would ask
9:33 the city to seriously consider not only
9:37 hiring an Outreach worker but providing
9:39 this Outreach worker with a space where
9:42 he or she might have some office hours
9:45 an indoor space like the Community Hall
9:48 that the city owns provides plenty of
9:51 indoor space with electrical outlets
9:53 Wi-Fi tables and bathrooms and it would
9:57 allow the Outreach worker to be of real
9:59 assistance to the people whom he or she
10:02 finds in need of help so please consider
10:06 passing that
10:08 uh 8044 measure and maybe allowing for a
10:15 little space in that Hall that the city
10:19 already
10:20 owns thank
10:22 you thank you Elizabeth uh city clerk
10:25 who's next up on our list this evening
10:27 next we have Leo FL
10:29 Leo you can unmute
10:32 yourself uh thank you good evening
10:34 Madame mayor and members of the council
10:36 my name is Leo Flor and I have the
10:37 privilege of directing King County's
10:39 Department of community and Human
10:41 Services I'm here this evening in
10:43 addition to offering this comment to be
10:45 present if I can be useful during the
10:47 council's uh deliberations about a
10:49 potential action on what was House Bill
10:51 1590 uh and uh just to quickly summarize
10:55 uh as many folks will know the King
10:57 County Executive has proposed and the
10:59 King County Council is now considering a
11:02 measure to enact uh under the authority
11:05 of what is RCW 824 530 a sales tax that
11:09 would allow uh the county to uh really
11:12 tackle the issue of chronic homelessness
11:14 which is a regional issue that we all
11:16 see uh and seeks to provide housing uh
11:19 immediately for 2,000 of the counties
11:22 residents who are living outside uh in
11:25 tents right now and so I won't get into
11:28 any of the details I'm here to provide
11:30 uh information as is useful to the
11:32 council and if I may I also just wanted
11:34 to say thank you on behalf of the county
11:36 to isqua uh which has been a leader uh
11:40 in our pandemic response uh one of the
11:43 most important facilities uh that's kept
11:46 uh people safe uh is in the city of
11:48 issaqua and there have now been more
11:50 than 1,300 people across our County who
11:53 have stayed in isolation and quarantine
11:55 facilities uh which means that they did
11:57 not sleep while infect I or potentially
11:59 infectious in a shelter with other
12:02 vulnerable people or in a home with
12:04 loved ones who might have gotten sick uh
12:06 that is a remarkable achievement uh we
12:09 have succeeded so far in keeping many
12:11 people safe and issaqua has been a
12:12 leader in that I just wanted to say
12:14 thank you for that thank you thank you
12:17 Leo city clerk who else has signed up to
12:19 speak today next we have Ann
12:23 Fletcher great and I've unmuted
12:27 you
12:30 can you hear me yes we can okay great
12:33 thank you okay this is an Fletcher I'm a
12:36 a resident and a facilitator for people
12:39 for climate action and I want to comment
12:41 on the agenda Bill to establish an
12:44 environmental board and repeal the
12:46 rivers and streams board
12:50 code I appreciate every one of the
12:52 improvements that the Administration has
12:54 made to the proposed agenda bill as
12:58 requested by the council the planning
13:01 policy commission and the
13:03 public and I want to acknowledge the
13:06 hard work that was done by many people
13:08 to bring us to this point it was taxing
13:11 but worth it and now what is needed in
13:14 this ordinance and code for the board to
13:18 succeed well after some reflection on my
13:21 previous concern I think that the agenda
13:23 bill will work with two
13:26 amendments and in my written comment I
13:29 have specifically outlined wording that
13:32 would address those two
13:35 items the first item is the
13:38 Environmental board Duty number
13:41 four I think we should go back to the
13:43 original intent and purpose of the
13:45 checklist and broaden its scope to all
13:48 projects that could have environmental
13:50 impact in that way it would address the
13:53 concerns from the planning policy
13:54 commission regarding
13:56 transparency about seeming limitation s
13:59 being placed on the use of the
14:02 checklist and our concerns about the
14:05 board getting enough representative data
14:08 about development Transportation trees
14:11 etc for evaluating progress on the
14:15 city's environmental go goals and their
14:18 plans I appreciate that the process for
14:21 the Community Development Department was
14:23 defined in this proposal and it still
14:26 could be used or tweaked because it is
14:28 not part of the
14:29 ordinance however the checklist does not
14:33 need to be linked with the neighborhood
14:34 meeting
14:36 form provide some time for the
14:38 environmental board to be involved in
14:41 developing the checklist and for other
14:43 departments to determine how the
14:45 checklist would work into their
14:49 processes number two in the isqua
14:53 municipal code the neighborhood
14:56 meeting that is such a good good idea
14:59 for getting public review and it could
15:02 be instituted right away and tweaked as
15:05 it's tried out the code for that should
15:09 include all projects relevant to the
15:12 environment not just development
15:15 projects and the feedback looped to the
15:17 environmental board should be in that
15:21 code so these suggestions are aimed to
15:24 ensure that the ordinance and code match
15:27 our overall environmental
15:30 goals but with clear
15:32 safeguards that allow reasonable
15:35 processes to be developed for
15:39 implementation I keep circling back to
15:41 the objective of the board about the
15:43 environment and climate which we all
15:45 believe in so much and what I have
15:48 proposed I believe will help the board
15:51 and City better achieve this purpose our
15:55 natural environment protected thank
16:00 you thank you Ann uh city clerk has
16:03 anyone else signed up this evening yes
16:05 we have one more caller signed up and
16:07 for anyone else on the call if you would
16:09 like to make comments please press star
16:11 three on your phone that's star three
16:15 and next we have Connie Marsh Connie
16:18 I've unmuted
16:20 you so hi this is Connie Marsh and I
16:23 live up on squawk mountain and uh
16:26 periodically when I get so uh sort of
16:30 infuriated with the processes in the
16:32 city I have to sit back and try to
16:35 understand why things might be happening
16:38 that that uh seem so so off and I
16:45 realized I've actually never told all of
16:47 you what I think the role of a public
16:53 representative is and that is to
16:57 represent the people but that doesn't
17:00 mean you get elected and you never go
17:02 back to the people or check in to see
17:05 what the people are thinking and what
17:08 the people want and so when I am at
17:11 committee meetings or I look on a
17:14 council agenda and the process is
17:17 foreshortened to the extreme it feels
17:21 like the public and their engagement is
17:24 being totally disrespected and this
17:27 disrespect effect is I think what causes
17:30 such frustration for me because the
17:32 community tries hard to stay engaged and
17:36 do the right thing and when when their
17:40 their um thoughts and energies are not
17:45 valued or seemingly not valued or again
17:49 you don't even ask us what we think um I
17:54 I just feel like this is a deep and
17:58 wrong way of doing government now we
18:01 have a federal government who is giving
18:03 us some interesting examples as we speak
18:05 so this probably adds to the frustration
18:08 but we need to constantly adhere to
18:12 those principles of trying to respect
18:15 the go the people and the processes that
18:18 it is set upon and I think in the last
18:21 few months we have failed on that to
18:23 some extent and then let's get to the
18:26 environmental board and an was just
18:30 awesome that was really good uh so what
18:34 I would like to say is about the
18:37 checklist the checklist is something
18:40 that would gather the data as the
18:42 projects are basically put into place so
18:46 that we can evaluate how well all the
18:48 regulations are working toward the goals
18:52 and the interim checklist that was put
18:54 in um that's at the very beginning and
18:58 it it would not reflect what is actually
19:02 happening nor would the questions in it
19:05 give the data necessary to make a
19:07 judgment of our regulations so I
19:10 wholeheartedly agree with an and her uh
19:15 suggestions and then I want to have
19:19 Elizabeth be the one who
19:22 administers our social services because
19:25 I think her ideas are spot on it is our
19:29 local small things that we can do in our
19:33 community and instead isqua seems to
19:36 focus on building these big nearly
19:40 Regional structures for health when
19:43 really maybe what we need is we need a
19:45 room with some electricity so people can
19:47 plug in and we need some showers and
19:49 that could be the most effective thing
19:51 that we could do so I am not for the
19:54 city getting a large amount of money uh
19:58 to build big things I want our values to
20:03 be put to these people on our streets
20:06 who frankly many of us know and need our
20:11 help that is my priority so thank you
20:14 very
20:16 much thank you Connie uh city clerk has
20:19 anyone else signed up to speak this
20:20 evening no one else has signed up to
20:23 speak or indicated a desired to speak
20:26 thank you
20:29 um I just want to say thanks to those
20:32 that did come um thank you Leo for being
20:35 available this evening in case the city
20:37 council has some additional questions
20:39 about King County and HB
20:41 1590 um and we also had a lot of
20:44 comments on the environmental formation
20:47 of the environmental board and housing
20:50 options uh to collect whether or not the
20:53 city should collect 0.1% sales tax in
20:55 Lou of the county and some information
20:59 on adjustments that could be made to the
21:02 environmental committee ordinance so
21:04 thank you all for coming in I appreciate
21:06 that um for those that are watching or
21:09 would like to provide additional
21:11 comments please remember that you can
21:12 always email your city council at any
21:14 time at city council isqua
21:17 wa.gov and uh any comments that were
21:20 received by email on tonight's agenda
21:22 topics will be acknowledged by the
21:24 council president under the relative
21:26 relevant agenda item so the next item of
21:29 business this evening is going to be
21:30 committee and Regional reports and we
21:33 will start with council member
21:36 Hall thank you mayor paully this is uh
21:38 council member Zach Hall um I have a
21:42 couple of quick reports to make this
21:43 evening first is for uh Cascade water
21:46 Alliance so um the board of directors
21:49 met on Wednesday September 23rd uh
21:52 during this meeting the board made a
21:53 number of noteworthy decisions I want to
21:55 share with you and uh I um I'm sure
21:58 mayor Paulie will join me in thanking
22:00 the city council again for providing us
22:02 with great feedback at the last regular
22:04 city council meeting thank you very much
22:06 um so at this meeting the board voted to
22:08 adopt the 2021 through 22 budget um the
22:13 board voted to adopt the new uh
22:15 2.2% annual rate increase uh I'll also
22:19 note that this vote was unanimous but uh
22:22 mayor paully voiced our city council's
22:24 concerns of a rate increase during the
22:26 pandemic for the record and um the
22:29 Redman representative did the same so I
22:31 just wanted to share that with you uh
22:32 the board also voted uh to amend our
22:35 water rate meth methodology so
22:38 establishing a new class of rates to
22:41 allow member cities like isqua uh to
22:43 purchase Surplus water at a discount so
22:46 that's good news um our next board
22:48 meeting is later this month on Wednesday
22:50 October
22:52 28th uh next the King County affordable
22:55 housing Committee of the growth
22:57 management planning
22:58 Council met last Wednesday September
23:01 30th uh during this meeting uh we
23:04 discussed uh a work plan item to develop
23:06 a list of shared principles to guide
23:09 County City business and
23:12 nonprofit efforts to implement new and
23:15 or untapped Revenue sources for
23:18 affordable housing I'm mentioning this
23:20 now because this conversation is ongoing
23:23 some sound cities Association members
23:26 are concerned about it and I'll have
23:28 much more to share about any proposed
23:31 shared principles with the mayor and the
23:34 city council um sometime before the next
23:37 committee meeting which isn't for
23:38 another month and a half so more to come
23:40 on that uh King County staff also
23:43 presented their health through housing
23:45 proposal uh which is attached to genda
23:48 Bill 8047 in tonight's packet you know
23:50 this is the County's proposal to
23:52 implement a 0.1% sales tax increase to
23:55 support affordable housing across the
23:56 county and I'm I'm sure we'll be hearing
23:58 a lot more about that later tonight um
24:01 finally the committee received a staff
24:03 update on our countywide planning
24:06 policies work uh and just as a reminder
24:08 for the council and the community uh the
24:10 King County affordable housing committee
24:12 is actually chartered to make
24:14 recommendations to the growth management
24:17 planning Council on the housing chapter
24:19 of the countywide planning policies that
24:21 was just a lot of gibberish so to put it
24:25 another way those policies govern how
24:27 cities like us should update our
24:29 comprehensive plans uh so staff had made
24:32 a recommendation to our committee um
24:35 that we frame our own recommendations
24:38 around equity in public health and there
24:40 was consensus to move forward with that
24:42 so that work is on going and I'll also
24:44 have something of more substance for you
24:46 all um next month our next committee
24:50 meeting of the affordable housing
24:52 committee is Tuesday November 3rd at
24:55 1M uh and then I'll let uh either
24:58 council member Goodman or Deputy council
24:59 president Ray give their report for
25:01 eastside fire and rescue and that
25:03 concludes my report for the even thank
25:06 you council member Hall council member D
25:10 Michelle uh thank you mayor mayor Paulie
25:14 I I have two um reports the first one is
25:18 that I attended a special work group
25:20 meeting for eastside Human Services
25:22 Forum on Tuesday September the 29th uh
25:26 the board continues to work through
25:27 Mission Vision and organizational issues
25:31 uh the comments provided during the
25:33 2-hour session will inform an executive
25:35 board meeting that will be held later
25:37 this month the second report is that I
25:40 attended the healthier here governing
25:42 board meeting on October 1st the
25:45 highlight of the meeting was an
25:47 extensive report on the planning for
25:49 covid-19 vaccination campaign scheduled
25:53 for early
25:54 2021 and of course that's dependent on
25:57 when we actually have a vaccine Seattle
25:59 King County Public Health is engaged in
26:01 a planning and outreach program already
26:04 underway to prepare the public for two
26:07 important initiatives the first one is a
26:09 flu vaccination campaign for this fall
26:12 with a goal of vaccinating everyone in
26:15 King County against the fall flu and two
26:18 the largest public health campaign in
26:20 the history of the United States when a
26:22 covid-19 vaccine becomes available
26:25 hopefully in early 2021
26:28 as of now those two campaigns are being
26:30 planned to strategically complement each
26:32 other with the flu vaccine campaign
26:35 Paving the way this fall possibly
26:37 helping to reduce the strength of future
26:40 covid-19 waves and laying the framework
26:43 for the co9 vaccination campaign in
26:46 2021 a focus of both campaigns is
26:49 increasing public Trust of the process
26:52 for developing vaccines through complete
26:55 transparency as well as helping the
26:57 public understand the benefits of
27:00 vaccination and those are my two reports
27:02 thank you very much thank you council
27:05 member D Michelle council member
27:07 Walsh thank you I have two very short
27:10 reports because both of my meetings are
27:12 upcoming um the huget sound Economic
27:16 Development District board will meet on
27:18 Wednesday to discuss recovery efforts by
27:21 the Washington State Department of
27:23 Commerce and we'll also get a report on
27:28 the scope timeline and focus for the
27:30 regional economic strategy including the
27:33 cares act funding that was recently
27:35 awarded to the economic development
27:38 District um so there's some money there
27:41 not sure how it's going to be
27:42 distributed or used um and then the
27:46 following Friday on the 16th I will
27:49 attend the chamber board meeting and I
27:52 expect we will continue to talk about
27:55 the items that are on our agenda tonight
27:57 as well as budget that concludes my
28:00 report thank you council member Walsh
28:03 council member Goodman thank you mayor
28:05 Paulie councilman MCG Goodman here um
28:07 East Side Fire and Rescue board of
28:09 directors will meet this Thursday
28:10 October 8th at 4M at headquarters and we
28:13 are scheduled to um take action on two
28:17 items that we uh the council discussed
28:19 last week one is the proposed formation
28:21 of a nonprofit entity to replace the um
28:25 the current arrangement which then if
28:28 that is um approved would have to come
28:31 back to all of the member entities all
28:33 the member um members for a vote all of
28:36 the policy makers so that would come
28:37 back to our Council and the other item
28:40 is the um the budget for next year the
28:44 um lodging tax advisory committee uh
28:47 will meet on October
28:49 14th um and you may recall I talked
28:52 about a couple of um funding items um
28:56 and the next next meeting we are going
28:58 to talk about um the requests for
29:01 proposals um that were received
29:03 regarding tourism promotion for next
29:05 year five proposals were received um I
29:08 have not looked at them so I can't tell
29:09 you who we received them from but uh the
29:12 committee will be reviewing those and
29:13 making a recommendation to the full
29:16 Council um don't have a meeting
29:18 scheduled for this yet um but for the
29:21 other um funding item that's going
29:24 through lodging tax advisory committee
29:27 um they're also uh we are also seeking
29:32 um applications from businesses and not
29:35 for profits um for funding for up to
29:39 $10,000 I believe it's
29:41 $50,000 now in $5,000 next march um and
29:46 the deadline for those applications um
29:49 was today and there will be a few future
29:52 meeting to discuss those so those will
29:53 be back with recommendations as well and
29:56 that's my report thank you thank you
29:58 council member Goodman council member
30:04 Marts sorry juggling Windows uh thank
30:07 you Madame mayor this is council member
30:08 Marts uh I also have a short uh report
30:12 because it's two upcoming meetings the
30:14 sound cities Association public issues
30:17 committee uh will be meeting Wednesday
30:19 October 14th from 7il 9:00 p.m. uh right
30:24 now on the agenda uh there is
30:27 appointment uh of the 2021 pick
30:30 nominating committee
30:32 members uh and uh talking about the
30:36 legislative agenda uh and then uh the
30:40 next day Thursday October 15th from 10
30:42 till noon is the fuget toown Regional
30:45 Council growth management policy board
30:47 uh the agenda is still TBD thank you and
30:50 that concludes my report thank you
30:52 council member Mars Deputy council
30:54 president Ray thank you mayor paully
30:56 this is Chris Ray um one report this
30:59 evening um the King County uh planning
31:03 Pol or growth management plan planning
31:07 Council I'm having trouble getting that
31:08 out today thank you Zach um the regular
31:12 meeting was scheduled for SE September
31:14 30th was not conducted as a result of
31:16 some scheduling difficulties in instead
31:19 we had a u work session the agenda of
31:21 the work session included a history of
31:24 the growth management planning Council
31:26 and how decisions are made overview of
31:29 the growth management Act and the
31:30 planning framework guiding principles
31:32 for updating the countywide planning
31:34 policies overview of the concepts being
31:37 highlighted for change in
31:39 2021 an overview of the process for
31:41 setting growth targets uh the next
31:43 meeting of gmpc is currently scheduled
31:46 for December 2nd 2020 at 4M and that
31:49 concludes my report this
31:51 evening thank you Deputy council
31:53 president council president
31:55 hunt thank you madam mayor this is
31:57 council president hunt the city council
32:00 ad hoc committee that is working on
32:02 Title 18 which is a chapter of our um
32:06 Municipal Code that deals with land use
32:08 met on October 1st um this is a council
32:11 committee consisting of myself council
32:14 members Walsh and council member Goodman
32:17 um and we went over a chart that were
32:21 developing with staff that covers the
32:24 objectives of what we want to achieve
32:26 with the land use code updates as well
32:30 as the actions we intend to take as far
32:32 as what we want to change with the code
32:34 and then expected outcomes and what we
32:37 want to achieve we uh got about halfway
32:40 through editing that and we'll continue
32:42 that work on October 8th and then we
32:44 plan to bring that um document back to
32:47 council for consideration at an upcoming
32:49 meeting and that concludes my report
32:52 thank you council president the next
32:55 item on our agenda this evening is the
32:57 mayor's report and uh I'll have several
33:00 items this evening I'm just going to
33:02 check in with city clerk do we also have
33:05 uh some slides that go with this mayor's
33:09 report no there we go yes thank you very
33:12 much so the first item I have this
33:15 evening is a proclamation it's for
33:17 Substance Abuse Prevention and I'd like
33:20 to read this into the record whereas
33:22 many of our young people do not develop
33:24 the skills needed to productively go
33:26 through adolescent substance free and
33:29 whereas substance use can and does
33:32 negatively impact the development and
33:34 potential for our youth to succeed and
33:37 whereas substance use prevention has a
33:39 greater impact than later intervention
33:42 by changing a child's early life path
33:44 away from maladaptive Solutions and
33:47 towards positive behaviors and
33:50 productivity whereas by stopping the
33:52 drug use before it starts we can prevent
33:54 the disease of addiction and create
33:56 stronger neighborhoods in our community
33:58 I proclaim the month of October 2020 as
34:01 Substance Abuse Prevention month in the
34:04 city of isqua and I call upon citizens
34:07 to join me in engaging in appropriate
34:09 programs and activities to promote
34:12 comprehensive Substance Abuse Prevention
34:15 efforts in our
34:16 community the next item on the mayor's
34:19 report is the Southeast 62nd tunnel
34:22 mural this is probably the first time
34:24 the council is hearing about this so
34:27 from a group of 26 artists who responded
34:29 to the city's RFQ for a mural project
34:32 Devon Finley was selected by the Arts
34:34 commission Devon has significant
34:37 large-scale mural experience throughout
34:39 the West Coast the artwork is inspired
34:42 by the local wildlife inhabiting isqua
34:44 and the surrounding area the animals are
34:46 designed with highly saturated colors to
34:49 help bring them to life creating more
34:51 energy and personality within each
34:53 animal while also adding balance from
34:55 the more monochroma atic background the
34:58 mural will be painted in the Southeast
35:00 62nd tunnel on the East Lake samamish
35:03 Trail in October the interior walls of
35:06 the tunnel are approximately 128 ft long
35:09 and 11t high and the tunnel has
35:12 experienced a significant amount of
35:13 graffiti in the past two years the mural
35:16 artwork is intended to serve as a
35:18 graffiti deterrent the completed artwork
35:21 will be finished with an anti-graffiti
35:24 sealant next item on the mayor's report
35:26 this evening is about Vision 2050 from
35:30 The pett Sound Regional Council the pett
35:33 sound Regional Council adopted Vision
35:34 2050 on September 24th 2020 the plan is
35:38 a 4Count blueprint for how the region
35:41 can plan for the growth that is expected
35:43 to come to the region in the coming
35:45 decade the graphic on the screen
35:47 indicates what the next steps will be
35:49 for the county and for cities and towns
35:52 through 2021 King County will work on
35:54 updating its comprehensive planning
35:56 policy
35:57 and we'll discuss the allocation of
35:59 growth targets with cities located
36:01 within their jurisdiction over the
36:03 following 3 years cities will work on
36:05 updating their comprehensive plans I
36:07 hope to facilitate conversations with
36:09 our community and our Council as this
36:12 process moves
36:13 forward the next item I have to share
36:16 tonight is about a Community Development
36:18 block grant award that we will be
36:20 receiving from King County the city has
36:22 been awarded
36:24 $75,000 in a community development BL
36:27 block grant funds from King County to
36:29 provide Tech Business technical
36:32 assistance for low and Moder moderate
36:35 income micro entrepreneurs in
36:38 2021 this is the first Community
36:40 Development blockr application that
36:42 isqua has submitted in several years and
36:44 we're thankful for the regional
36:46 committee that improved this investment
36:49 later this year staff will conduct a
36:50 requests for proposals to select a
36:53 provider we are also doing an isqua
36:56 business business survey every four
36:58 years the city sends a business survey
37:00 to all businesses to better understand
37:02 the business climate and how to best
37:04 help businesses operate and grow with
37:06 the ongoing covid-19 pandemic it's even
37:09 more important to hear from our
37:10 businesses to help guide our policies
37:13 during the crisis and over the course of
37:15 the next few years if you are an Isa
37:18 business you will receive a survey in
37:20 the mail and we hope that you will take
37:22 the 10 minutes to complete the survey
37:24 you can also complete the survey online
37:28 the.gov visis survey B Iz s v y before
37:33 October 23rd and we will staff will be
37:36 reporting out on their findings in
37:39 December I have an announcement on an
37:42 interim dog park pilot project as we
37:45 continue navigating covid recovery the
37:48 important role our city parks and public
37:50 spaces play in our isqua physical social
37:54 and Community Health IS F further
37:56 confirmed we need to find creative and
37:59 safe ways for the community to recreate
38:01 and come together and that remains a
38:03 priority this goal is evident in our
38:06 approach to a dog park Although our plan
38:08 for a long-term and permanent dog park
38:11 has been delayed due to the pandemic we
38:14 are launching a creative plan to install
38:16 rotating temporary dog parks within the
38:19 city parks starting this fall isqua's
38:22 first offleash dog parks in city park
38:25 park space while we continue to pursue a
38:28 permanent dog park this program
38:30 beginning next month will provide
38:32 rotating temporary dog parks from a half
38:34 acre to 3/4 acres in size they'll be set
38:37 up at a variety of city park spaces
38:39 throughout town the idea was discussed
38:42 with residents and dog park enthusiasts
38:44 at a September 17th virtual public
38:46 meeting the positive response and
38:49 helpful feedback was been shared and
38:50 discussed with the Parks Board on
38:52 September 28th once again the feedback
38:55 was supportive for proed uing this
38:56 interim solution while the long-term
38:58 permanent site continues over the next 2
39:01 to four years the first three sites for
39:04 these pop-up dark Parks have been
39:06 identified these three sites will get us
39:08 through the first year of the program
39:10 and the sites and time frames are the
39:13 lawn area of the Pickering Barn from
39:16 November 2020 to January
39:18 2021 squawk Valley Park at the south end
39:21 of town from February 2021 to May 2021
39:26 and the isqua community center old skate
39:29 skate park site from June 2021 to
39:33 October 2021 all three sites have
39:36 existing suitable surfacing available
39:38 parking an accessible route and will
39:41 avoid nearby critical areas Andor
39:44 buffers working around existing
39:46 programming and historical uses within
39:48 our Parks was also an important
39:51 consideration this first year will serve
39:53 as a pilot for this approach and we will
39:55 learn from it and make modifications
39:57 like considering other locations for the
40:00 year 2 Dog Park tour schedule and lineup
40:04 so look for further details as we make
40:06 final preparations for the early
40:08 November opening of the first
40:11 site that concludes the mayor's report
40:14 and the next item of business we'll be
40:16 moving on to is the consent calendar the
40:19 consent calendar was distributed to
40:20 Council in advance and if authorized the
40:23 items on the consent calendar will be
40:24 considered together and approved by one
40:26 motion have the payables and payroll
40:29 been
40:30 reviewed this is council member Hall
40:32 they have this is council member Walsh
40:35 they have thank you very much does any
40:38 council member desire to remove any item
40:41 from the consent calendar and consider
40:42 it under regular
40:46 business I am not seeing any indication
40:48 of that before we move to the motion I'd
40:50 like to ask council president hunt um
40:53 have you received any emails that you
40:55 would like to share on any the consent
40:57 calendar
40:58 item thank you Madame mayor this is
41:00 council president hunt and yes we did
41:02 receive emails from two residents
41:05 regarding multiple items that are on the
41:07 consent calendar this evening um one
41:10 resident wrote To Us regarding several
41:13 items one is AB 831 which was the sixe
41:17 transportation Improvement program or
41:19 tip um concerned about school sighting
41:22 and how that would interact with the
41:25 transportation improvements in that plan
41:27 and would like um to hear more Council
41:30 discussion regarding AB 835 which is the
41:33 King County cooperative watershed
41:35 management Grant um the resident
41:39 recommended approval but also wanted to
41:41 make sure that there were actual
41:42 management improvements and not just
41:45 studies um and water watershed
41:47 management um actions taken regarding AB
41:52 8037 um which is the state department of
41:54 ecology fiscal year 2022 water quality
41:58 combined funding grants um also would
42:01 like more Council discussion similarly
42:03 concerned about the eff of growth on
42:05 water quality and wanting to hear more
42:07 about these programs and how they would
42:10 impact water quality and then regarding
42:13 AB 8038 which is water system projects
42:16 to enable use of additional Regional
42:18 water um wanted to hear more discussion
42:21 and had concerns about the funding who
42:24 would pay current residents versus
42:26 future residents um we received another
42:29 email from a different um resident as
42:32 well also on this concerned about um
42:35 changes especially changes in floration
42:37 and that these be noticed to people who
42:40 would be affected by um any changes to
42:43 the water system and then also from this
42:46 second resident uh concern that for
42:49 storm water grants and stormw Grant
42:52 applications that the locations of any
42:54 changes be included in map so that that
42:57 could be better
42:58 tracked and that concludes comments on
43:02 items on the consent calendar this
43:04 evening thank you council president hunt
43:06 would anyone care to make a
43:11 motion council president
43:13 hunt I move to approve the consent
43:16 calendar as it appears in tonight's
43:19 agenda thank you is there a
43:24 second this is Chris ra the
43:27 motion thank you Deputy council
43:29 president Ray it's been moved and
43:30 seconded I'm going to go to the clerk
43:32 now for a roll call
43:34 Vote Yes starting with council member
43:38 Hall I council president
43:42 hunt I council member Marts I Deputy
43:48 council president Ray I council member
43:52 Walsh I council member D Michelle
43:57 I council member Goodman I that's s i
44:01 zero n thank you very much city clerk
44:04 that passes unanimously we'll move on to
44:07 our first item of regular business
44:10 ab84 847 affordable housing sales and
44:14 use tax the action before the council
44:16 tonight is to consider adopting an
44:18 ordinance this is the first time this
44:20 item is coming before Council there has
44:24 been a lot of discussion out in the
44:26 community but not at this Council table
44:28 here it is coming forward this evening
44:31 both at my request and also the request
44:34 of three council members so City
44:36 administrator Bob quitz um could you
44:39 please introduce this and get the
44:41 discussion
44:43 going yes thank you Madame mayor members
44:45 of the council as mayor Paulie indicated
44:47 there has been a lot of discussion over
44:48 the last week or so about this item but
44:51 for the members of the community
44:52 watching I want to provide just sort of
44:54 a brief overview of of the matter before
44:57 us uh this agenda Bill seeks the city
44:59 council's adoption of a proposed
45:01 ordinance which which would Implement a
45:04 0.1% sales tax to fund affordable
45:06 housing Mental Health Services and
45:08 related Services uh the authorization
45:11 for uh this tax goes back to 2015 when
45:14 the Washington State Legislature enacted
45:16 legislation allowing any county in the
45:18 state to Levy a sales tax of up to
45:21 1/10th of 1% uh for affordable housing
45:23 and related Services initially to the
45:26 tax increase required voter approval uh
45:28 the Washington State Legislature earlier
45:30 this year uh passed AB 1590 uh which
45:34 allowed this task to be passed uh using
45:36 local uh Council manic or County board
45:39 authority uh and the bill was codified
45:42 in RCW
45:54 82.14% could choose to impose the tax uh
45:57 with the new legislation uh in 2020 a
46:00 new deadline was set for counties to
46:02 impose the tax uh that deadline was
46:05 September 30th 2020 after this date any
46:08 City may choose to impose the tax
46:10 through a vot of the city council or a
46:12 ballot measure um Madame mayor members
46:14 of the council as you're aware there has
46:17 been discussion by King County with
46:19 their uh intention to move forward with
46:22 us as soon as their next County council
46:24 meeting on September 13th
46:26 um if the city of is 1 sorry to sorry
46:31 October 13th October 13th excuse me um
46:35 but there is a window of time between
46:37 now and then if a a individual City wish
46:39 to take action uh to impose the tax if
46:42 an individual city did choose to impose
46:44 the tax and the county did later impose
46:46 the tax the city would be able to retain
46:48 those dollars uh so the matter before
46:51 the council this evening is does this
46:53 make sense to move forward with such an
46:55 ordinance uh prior to the King County
46:57 Council doing that uh much has
46:59 transpired over the last several days on
47:01 this matter and perhaps mayor paully uh
47:04 could pick up the story uh from here
47:06 from the discussions that she's had with
47:08 representatives of King County mayor
47:10 Paulie thank you very much State ad
47:12 ministrator Bob quits this is the mayor
47:14 uh there have been a lot of
47:15 conversations out in the region over the
47:17 last two weeks as the September 30th
47:20 original deadline um was looming uh SCBA
47:25 has convened many groups of Mayors as
47:28 well as had meetings with the uh King
47:30 County Executives office as well just
47:33 trying to sort out uh and get an
47:36 understanding of what the King County
47:37 proposal is and what the city's support
47:41 is for those proposals and there's been
47:43 a bit of a varied reaction um many of
47:46 our neighboring cities have chosen to um
47:50 support the King County proposal and are
47:52 not entertaining um motions at this time
47:55 time to adopt their own ordinance
47:58 several cities in the South um are
48:01 having conversations about whether or
48:03 not uh Tuesday night they may consider
48:05 similar motions to the one you see
48:07 before you tonight there are lots of
48:11 different avenues that cities can go
48:13 down um you have many of those options
48:16 before you tonight and I'm sure we will
48:18 have a robust conversation about them I
48:20 attended a meeting this morning with um
48:23 executive Constantine to of the King
48:26 County council members and three other
48:28 Mayors to talk through some of the
48:30 issues and in particular to talk through
48:32 some isqua specific issues um I wanted
48:36 to remind the executive's office about a
48:38 project proposal that the council has
48:40 been considering for four to five years
48:42 now uh a partnership with uh King King
48:46 County Housing an award of a grant from
48:48 King County for $10 million and a
48:51 partnership with Spectrum um a private
48:54 developer to construct approximately 350
48:57 housing units close to the current
49:00 transit center on State Route 900 and
49:03 also the city council's desire to make
49:06 sure that wraparound Services services
49:09 that support residents such as mental
49:12 mental health uh mental and behavior
49:14 health dental and medical are available
49:16 in proximity to the new project and this
49:19 Council has taken several votes moving
49:22 this project proposal forward and also
49:24 committing funds to
49:26 the construction of the tenant um of the
49:29 pre- tenant buildout um at this
49:32 potential future facility I wanted to
49:35 ensure that
49:37 um the King County Executive understood
49:41 that there were options that this city
49:44 council might consider being a city of
49:46 less than 60,000 we are actually not
49:50 able to receive 30% of the tax collected
49:54 in this squab back to have under our
49:57 control yet we do have projects on the
49:59 horizon and in particular this cood
50:01 project and that that could be
50:02 concerning to our Council and so that
50:05 they wanted to have a discussion and
50:07 talk about taking action action that
50:09 could be anywhere from supporting the
50:11 King County proposal as it is um
50:14 adopting an ordinance that um had all of
50:17 the 0.1% coming to isqua um adopting an
50:21 ordinance that says if we can work out
50:24 something with King County's Executives
50:27 office to support the um funding of the
50:31 Opportunity Center that U we could
50:33 support the
50:34 proposal and um several other variations
50:38 of that so there's been a lot of
50:39 information in the packet there's been a
50:41 lot of information and phone calls today
50:44 um we have put together um a package of
50:47 information that allows you to review
50:49 what an ordinance might look like and we
50:52 are also fortunate enough to have le
50:54 Flur who is is um a director for these
50:58 services available here tonight for you
51:01 to ask additional
51:03 questions so that is some additional
51:06 background City administrator Bob quits
51:08 was there anything you would like to add
51:10 that uh only Madame mayor that we
51:13 prepare we're here to answer any
51:15 questions that you have as you've
51:16 mentioned uh in the packet is a draft
51:19 ordinance Mr Haney uh is with us and can
51:22 speak to uh that ordinance also there
51:25 are timing issues associated with this
51:29 council president hunt received a
51:30 communication this evening from the uh
51:33 chair of the King County Council
51:34 indicating that perhaps the time uh has
51:37 shifted uh for consideration by the King
51:39 County Council that uh the president uh
51:43 of the council indicated that there will
51:44 not be a final vote now on the 13th so
51:48 that is new news uh based on what we had
51:50 heard previously um so um again we're
51:54 happy to answer any
51:57 questions uh thank you City
51:59 administrator Bob quits that was
52:01 different information than I had but we
52:03 do have Mr Flur here to answer questions
52:06 as well um before we move into Council
52:10 questions uh council president hunt I
52:12 wanted to know if you had gotten any
52:13 public comments on um this item email to
52:18 you email to the council this week thank
52:20 you Madame mayor we did I also um just
52:24 wanted to correct
52:26 yeah I misspoke I
52:28 apologize oh okay um so to so to be
52:32 clear they do plan um King County
52:35 Council does plan to take a vote until
52:38 October 13th uh on October 13th my
52:41 apologies I I misread the email my
52:43 apologies thank you City administer Bob
52:45 quitz council president yes um thank you
52:49 we did receive a number of comments um
52:52 very recent comments I apologize if I
52:53 missed any we re received a um a comment
52:58 in uh opposition to new taxes generally
53:02 speaking um if we did and then also this
53:05 um uh Community member who wrote To Us
53:08 urged that if we if we did plan on um
53:12 imposing this tax and then repealing it
53:14 which is one of the options that's
53:16 described in our packet um if the King
53:18 County council did not impose a tax that
53:20 we be very clear about that and also
53:23 this resident um had question about the
53:25 scope of use and what we could do if we
53:28 were to impose the tax with that tax we
53:31 received a letter um in opposition which
53:34 had many signatories which was from the
53:36 King County Alliance for Human Services
53:39 which was opposed to us imposing a um
53:42 sales tax because uh basically because
53:47 this would mean that the tax would not
53:49 be used um in the same way if it were a
53:52 King County tax at the regional level if
53:54 we were to adopt a city level approach
53:58 um we received a email in support with
54:01 restrictions um in terms of if the
54:05 county opted not to proceed that the
54:07 city should also opt not to proceed but
54:09 otherwise um in support to address our
54:12 local issues with this tax as far as
54:15 affordable housing needs um and then
54:17 another Resident that wrote To Us in
54:20 opposition um and spoke to the need for
54:25 Solutions and not um a local tax for
54:28 this that I believe um covers all of the
54:32 comments and again apologies if I missed
54:34 any late breaking comments thank you
54:36 council president hunt I do see a lineup
54:38 for questions and comments coming as
54:40 well um you did remind me of maybe one
54:43 additional point that I did not make
54:45 very clearly and that is that while
54:47 there are several cities um south of
54:50 Seattle that are asking a lot of
54:53 questions right now the majority of
54:55 cities on the east side um have not
54:58 weigh in on this and those that work
55:00 with us under Arch are comfortable with
55:03 the council proposal and comfortable
55:05 with a regional solution so I just want
55:08 to make sure to give the background on
55:10 as many different cities as we have but
55:12 we are really the first ones having this
55:14 conversation so lucky you let's start
55:17 with our list I believe I have council
55:20 member Marts up first thank you Madame
55:22 mayor this is council member Marts I I
55:24 have a number of questions um some are
55:28 just I think clarifying for members of
55:31 the public um first off uh how much
55:34 money uh are we talking about uh would
55:38 this tax generate in Revenue per
55:41 year um council member Mars members of
55:43 the council the sea has done a a a quick
55:46 assessment and their estimation for is
55:49 cause about $1.7 million a
55:51 year thank you the second question is
55:54 ab5 90 puts limits on how this money
55:57 could be used can you describe how we
55:59 might um in what ways we might be able
56:01 to use it towards the uh isqua Transit
56:04 oriented development project
56:11 proposal i' like sorry go ahead s
56:14 administrator I was going to read from
56:17 the statute uh it will take me a moment
56:19 to find the
56:22 particular um section m would you like
56:25 me to read from the statute so I it's a
56:27 complete answer that would be great I
56:30 also would like to invite um Mr Flur to
56:34 comment because he did some research
56:35 today on um the Opportunity Center
56:38 proposal and may have some additional
56:40 information the administrator and then
56:42 we'll go to Leo certainly um so I'm
56:46 reading uh from the packet on page 118
56:50 uh from the bill itself um beginning on
56:54 on then page
56:58 119 uh notwithstanding subsection 4
57:02 minimum of 60% of the monies collected
57:04 under this section must be used for the
57:05 following purposes uh constructing
57:08 affordable housing which may include new
57:09 units or affordable housing within an
57:12 existing structure and Facilities
57:13 providing housing related services or
57:16 two constructing mental and behavioral
57:19 health related facilities or three
57:21 funding the operations and maintenance
57:23 costs of new units of affordable housing
57:25 and Facilities where housing related
57:27 programs are provided or newly
57:28 constructed evaluation and treatment
57:31 centers um it goes on uh for more
57:34 specifics for those uses but council
57:36 member Mars I believe that answers your
57:38 question that the the the uses in the
57:41 Opportunity Center uh I think are are
57:44 covered under the section that I've
57:45 already read okay so could be used for
57:48 both housing directly and the ravar
57:50 around Services Associated yeah that
57:52 that's my reading of the of the law yes
57:54 sir
57:55 okay the the the third of my five
57:57 questions is um when last we talked
57:59 about the iscoa transit oriented
58:01 development project proposal um there
58:03 was a funding Gap can you describe the C
58:06 the funding Gap as we currently
58:08 understand it uh in talking with the
58:11 city staff working on this project we
58:13 believe that funding Gap is
58:14 approximately $2
58:15 million okay four question thank you my
58:19 fourth question is uh what would uh can
58:22 you describe a little bit more about the
58:23 timing if the is city council wants to
58:26 take action on this given that assuming
58:29 the county wants to take action on the
58:31 13th what is our timeline look like yes
58:34 uh happy to do that and I'd like to ask
58:36 the City attorney Mr Haney uh to help
58:39 with this um our understanding in
58:42 reviewing the law is that the city
58:44 council would have to pass an ordinance
58:47 and that ordinance would have to be
58:49 effective prior to the King County
58:52 Council uh meeting on October 13th in
58:55 order to do that uh this evening the
58:58 city council would need to vote
59:00 affirmative Le for that ordinance uh the
59:02 ordinance then needs to be posted in a
59:05 newspaper of General circulation for
59:07 five days um and we are currently using
59:10 the Seattle Times as that newspaper of
59:13 General circulation in order for it to
59:15 appear f for five days uh we would need
59:18 to provide the Seattle Times with the
59:20 text of the ordinance no later than 3
59:22 p.m. tomorrow uh Mr Hane and and Miss
59:25 keer uh please correct me if I've stated
59:28 anything
59:29 incorrectly no you I think you've stated
59:32 it very well that uh in order for the
59:34 ordinance to become effective prior to
59:36 the council meeting it's got to be
59:38 published tomorrow so your deadline is
59:40 tonight if you want to uh pass the uh
59:44 the ordinance and make it effective
59:46 prior to King County taking the action
59:49 on the
59:51 13th thank you and and I I appreciate
59:54 the for par and so many questions my
59:56 last one is for Leo Flur um and it's
59:59 really hearing the um uh sort of the the
1:00:04 questions that we have my understanding
1:00:06 is you you've been researching a little
1:00:08 bit about uh our project proposal um is
1:00:11 there
1:00:12 anything you can help us understand
1:00:15 about uh where K county is going and
1:00:17 what we're trying to
1:00:20 do uh thank you council member again uh
1:00:23 Leo FL from King Count's Department of
1:00:24 community and Human Services uh the just
1:00:28 to build upon uh the city
1:00:29 administrator's comments on eligible
1:00:31 uses uh it is correct that the
1:00:34 underlying statute really sort of
1:00:35 divides into two categories uh one is
1:00:39 the construction of affordable housing
1:00:42 or what the statute calls uh uh
1:00:45 facilities for Behavioral Health uh and
1:00:47 then the other category is uh really
1:00:50 housing related Services uh and
1:00:52 Behavioral Health Services as I
1:00:55 understand uh the project which the
1:00:57 county does support um in fact the uh
1:01:00 $10 million allocation uh in support of
1:01:03 the project is actually I learned today
1:01:05 the single largest uh uh uh contribution
1:01:09 to a single project that we have out in
1:01:11 the field right now um the uh as I took
1:01:15 a look at it I really understand that
1:01:16 there are physical and behavioral health
1:01:18 components uh to the project I think the
1:01:20 behavioral health components we see a
1:01:22 very clearly fit Within
1:01:25 uh the uh part of the the statute that
1:01:27 would allow for that to the extent that
1:01:29 there are capital costs that are
1:01:30 associated with the construction for use
1:01:32 of physical uh Health uh which does not
1:01:36 fit within Behavioral Health uh at least
1:01:38 in the way that we typically administer
1:01:40 the two uh that really I think would
1:01:42 have to fall into that category of
1:01:43 housing related services and therefore
1:01:45 be uh limited to no more than 40% of the
1:01:49 overall uh costs as I took a look at the
1:01:53 project I think uh what I something that
1:01:56 I I don't know there are many things I
1:01:57 don't know one thing I don't know is the
1:01:59 apportionment of the $2 million gap that
1:02:01 uh you have identified your project uh
1:02:03 and what of that is proportionable to
1:02:05 physical health uh Capital costs and
1:02:07 what of that is proportionable to uh the
1:02:10 the behavioral health costs and I think
1:02:12 uh the reason I really wanted to
1:02:14 understand that in Greater detail is I
1:02:16 think it speaks to the amount of time
1:02:17 that would have to transpire in order to
1:02:20 sort of accumulate sufficient funding at
1:02:23 a city level imp position to allow to
1:02:25 move forward uh if this were only sort
1:02:29 of city funded uh I can say that uh at
1:02:33 the county level again I think this is
1:02:35 exactly the type of project uh that we
1:02:38 have funded to date exactly the type of
1:02:41 project uh that we are interested in
1:02:42 continuing to fund particularly uh in
1:02:45 eastern King County where uh uh we are
1:02:48 seeing that we have more types of these
1:02:50 projects uh going historically we
1:02:52 certainly see that there is the need um
1:02:54 but there historically has not been a
1:02:56 lot of them and so I think we are very
1:02:58 interested in uh uh helping this project
1:03:01 be successful and I think that's one of
1:03:03 the reasons why you see that level of
1:03:04 financial investment so far from the
1:03:06 county uh so that was really uh I think
1:03:10 my what I would add to the city
1:03:11 administrator's analysis is that when we
1:03:14 begin to apply the ratios of what types
1:03:16 of things could be funded not knowing
1:03:18 specifically the amount of the cost that
1:03:19 would be apportionable again to physical
1:03:21 versus Behavioral Health that I think
1:03:23 affects the amount of time it would take
1:03:24 to accumulate enough money to to
1:03:26 complete the
1:03:27 project thank you thank you Leo and
1:03:30 council member marz if I could follow up
1:03:32 a slight correction to what our city
1:03:34 administrator said the actual City cost
1:03:36 for the opportunity center right now is
1:03:38 5.05 million the reason we're using the
1:03:41 $2 million number is because the state
1:03:43 has agreed to contribute $3 million and
1:03:46 so if there were to be a breakdown of
1:03:49 physical versus Behavioral Health um it
1:03:52 is very likely that the King County
1:03:53 portion would be able to fund a
1:03:55 significant amount of that based on the
1:03:58 total of $5 million so just just a
1:04:00 slightly different math but as the
1:04:02 project is still in proposal phase and
1:04:04 we're still working on um agreements uh
1:04:08 we don't have that breakdown right now
1:04:09 but anyway just to pain the numbers a
1:04:12 little
1:04:13 bit and council member Marts I'm going
1:04:16 to move on to
1:04:19 um council member D Michelle followed by
1:04:22 council president hunt
1:04:25 um mayor Paulie I don't have any
1:04:27 questions I have a comment and so I
1:04:29 would defer to council president hunt if
1:04:31 she wants to go before me sounds great
1:04:35 um and I think what we'll do for
1:04:38 comments is if we're getting to a part
1:04:40 where we're going to actually have a
1:04:41 deliberation we should be doing that
1:04:43 after the motion so thank you council
1:04:45 member D Michelle um council member uh
1:04:48 council president
1:04:50 hunt thank you this is council president
1:04:52 hunt I had a question when which I
1:04:54 believe um would be for Leo which is
1:04:58 about how the county plans to align the
1:05:01 use of this tax with Arch the um the
1:05:04 regional body that we work with to
1:05:06 address affordable
1:05:10 housing uh thank you council president
1:05:12 hunt uh King County's position with
1:05:15 respect to arches is one of just strong
1:05:18 support at a at a fundamental level we
1:05:21 are members of arch we are funders of
1:05:22 arch um and I think as we look into the
1:05:25 future what we really see is that there
1:05:27 are two Regional collaborations within
1:05:30 King County that are really I think
1:05:32 doing important work to identify local
1:05:35 context and be able to provide local
1:05:37 control um while still achieving scale
1:05:41 uh that we get with regional Solutions
1:05:42 and so with both Arch and skip a similar
1:05:45 organization in South King County uh we
1:05:48 believe that uh we we should and would
1:05:51 would and have proposed in the ordinance
1:05:54 before the King County Council uh active
1:05:56 collaboration with Arch uh both in the
1:05:59 creation of sub Regional planning but
1:06:00 also uh uh I think importantly in
1:06:03 decisions around sighting of facilities
1:06:06 um and I think it's a really important
1:06:08 way to make sure that uh the county is
1:06:11 not uh you know at the County Seat
1:06:14 making uh decisions that really require
1:06:16 local context and Arch has been a
1:06:18 wonderful partner in that work and we
1:06:20 would continue uh to both work with and
1:06:23 hope to grow our support for
1:06:26 Arch thank you Leo and thank you for
1:06:29 that question council president hunt did
1:06:30 you have any other
1:06:32 questions not at this time thank
1:06:35 you so I am not seeing any other
1:06:37 additional questions in the chat box
1:06:40 except now that I am because council
1:06:41 member Hall put one in there council
1:06:43 member Hall thanks mayor paully uh
1:06:46 council member Zach all here just a
1:06:47 really quick clarifying question for
1:06:49 either Jim Haney or C attorney or city
1:06:52 administrator uh and that is um if the
1:06:57 council were to choose to move forward
1:06:59 with this ordinance um
1:07:03 either just the ordinance as it is or
1:07:07 with some sort of language repealing it
1:07:10 after X days or whatever um does the I
1:07:15 guess this is just more of a city
1:07:16 council Logistics question does the city
1:07:18 council reserve the right to resend this
1:07:20 ordinance at any point in time in the
1:07:22 future
1:07:25 absolutely uh any ordinance of the city
1:07:28 of isqua can be resented by the isqua
1:07:31 city council with appropriate notice uh
1:07:33 at a at a regularly scheduled meeting so
1:07:36 um that's there I know there has been
1:07:37 some discussion among members of the
1:07:39 council uh wishing to consider uh some
1:07:42 language that would be added uh to the
1:07:44 ordinance uh either uh to ensure that
1:07:47 King County indeed did uh pass such a
1:07:50 countywide ordinance or also otherwise
1:07:52 to deal with a future discussions with
1:07:54 the county to ensure that those
1:07:56 discussions were completed uh prior to
1:07:58 perhaps then repealing that ordinance so
1:08:01 um I think that's really up for the
1:08:03 council to discuss further this evening
1:08:05 uh Amendment certainly could be
1:08:08 added and City administrator Bob critz
1:08:10 we have a couple more questions lining
1:08:12 up but if the council does put the
1:08:15 ordinance into effect uh when does the
1:08:18 pro when does the 0.1% property tax
1:08:20 begin to get
1:08:21 collected uh the 0.1% sales tax would be
1:08:24 collected would be collected beginning
1:08:26 January 1st uh another factor to this uh
1:08:30 is that the state of Washington has uh
1:08:33 specific dates in the year uh where
1:08:35 governing bodies can adjust the sales
1:08:37 tax uh and that date is coming up I
1:08:40 believe in uh March 15th or March 16th
1:08:43 so that's another uh Factor not only for
1:08:45 this Council but also for the King
1:08:47 County Council that if they wish to
1:08:49 begin collecting the tax starting
1:08:51 January 1st with that deadline uh with
1:08:53 state of Washington is coming up thank
1:08:55 you and we have another question from
1:08:58 council member
1:08:59 Marts thank you Madame mayor this is
1:09:01 council member Marts so uh I'm still a
1:09:05 little murky um I we did receive uh an
1:09:09 email from King County council president
1:09:13 one of the challenges we have is all
1:09:14 this is happening so quickly on an on a
1:09:17 and any time of course anytime we ever
1:09:19 want to consider a tax uh we want to
1:09:21 measure twice and cut once
1:09:24 um uh Council King County council
1:09:26 president balduchi said in her
1:09:29 note uh I can I can guarantee that we
1:09:33 will not be taking a final vote on this
1:09:35 sales tax measure at our Council until
1:09:37 Tuesday October 13th so if more time
1:09:39 would help to get to a level of comfort
1:09:41 you can rely on the county to support
1:09:43 your project and make it happen if to
1:09:46 get to that point please know that you
1:09:47 can take a few days to a week and still
1:09:49 have time to vote before we do but I
1:09:51 don't think that's what I heard today on
1:09:55 timing I mean it sounds like what I
1:09:57 heard today was use it or lose it today
1:10:00 so I'm trying to understand County
1:10:02 council president Baluchi's comments to
1:10:06 us in that
1:10:08 context let let me take a stab and I'll
1:10:10 ask Mr Haney to help um in order for a
1:10:14 regular ordinance of the city of isqua
1:10:16 city council to be adopted uh there is a
1:10:19 requirement of 5 days uh for posting of
1:10:22 that ordinance before the uh ordinance
1:10:24 can become effective um there are other
1:10:27 ways to adopt ordinances both for the
1:10:29 city of isqua and for King County uh an
1:10:32 emergency uh could be uh used and so the
1:10:36 effective date becomes immediate I am
1:10:38 not sure what King County council's
1:10:41 plans are for their adoption um if they
1:10:44 are plan to use an existing emergency
1:10:47 they have a existing emergency regarding
1:10:50 homelessness that has been in place for
1:10:51 some time um they may be choosing to do
1:10:54 that uh but the action of the isqua city
1:10:58 council in adopting an ordinance does
1:11:00 not provide immediate effectiveness of
1:11:03 that ordinance it has to have that
1:11:04 five-day uh period so perhaps the
1:11:07 council uh King County council president
1:11:09 was unaware of that or was assuming that
1:11:12 the esot council was planning to use an
1:11:14 emergency in talking with the city
1:11:17 attorney uh we are not certain that an
1:11:20 emergency adoption of this type of
1:11:22 ordinance uh is appropriate um certainly
1:11:26 Mr Haney can speak further to that uh
1:11:28 but uh we would believe that a this
1:11:30 would need to be treated as a regular
1:11:32 ordinance and that five-day publication
1:11:35 requirement would still be
1:11:38 required Mr
1:11:40 Hy the city administrator is correct we
1:11:43 had some concerns about making this an
1:11:45 emergency uh and so in order to make it
1:11:49 effective prior to the 13th of uh
1:11:54 October today would be the last date for
1:11:57 you to actually act on it what the
1:12:00 county uh council president may be may
1:12:03 be indicating is that if they do not
1:12:05 make their ordinance an emergency on the
1:12:08 13th and their ordinance does not become
1:12:10 effective for some time thereafter you
1:12:13 may have chance a chance to do that but
1:12:15 there's no no understanding on our part
1:12:18 uh as to when they're going to make
1:12:20 their ordinance effective and when the
1:12:23 City administrator and I talked about it
1:12:26 uh there was some concern that the
1:12:27 county may make its ordinance effective
1:12:29 as an emergency given their emergency
1:12:31 declaration relating to homelessness so
1:12:35 that's why it's been brought forward in
1:12:36 the in the uh form that it
1:12:39 is maybe we should check in with Leo
1:12:42 Flur to see if he has any information on
1:12:45 that and then we have a question from
1:12:47 Deputy council president
1:12:52 hello uh thank you mayor Paulie uh just
1:12:54 very quickly uh I I do not uh uh have
1:12:58 any more advanced information the
1:13:00 ordinance and its current form before
1:13:02 the King County Council uh is not an
1:13:04 emergency ordinance uh and I do believe
1:13:07 that other cities I I I certainly will
1:13:09 not attempt to give legal advice uh here
1:13:12 uh other cities have been looking at
1:13:14 whether or not to enact uh an ordinance
1:13:16 under this Authority as an emergency and
1:13:18 also have been looking at notice
1:13:20 requirements and some have uh come up
1:13:22 with different interpret ations I have
1:13:24 no opinion or knowledge of which of
1:13:26 those is
1:13:27 correct does that help council member
1:13:30 Mars thank you it does okay uh let's go
1:13:34 to Deputy council president Ray uh thank
1:13:37 you mayor paully Chris Ray uh we've been
1:13:39 talking a lot about timing and so I need
1:13:41 some help in understanding the urgency
1:13:44 of this so if the King County Council
1:13:47 doesn't take action on the 13th as we
1:13:50 anticipate then there is a question in
1:13:53 this trust me um then uh we have time to
1:13:57 take action um so my my question really
1:14:00 is are we feeling we need to take
1:14:03 immediate action because we want to
1:14:05 ensure we have local control over this
1:14:07 1.1% funding um that's um authorized by
1:14:11 the by the house bill is that is that
1:14:14 the the driver we've got here because we
1:14:16 don't
1:14:17 know I'm just trying to wrap my brain
1:14:19 around the urgency and it seems to me
1:14:21 like we're we're we're we're moving
1:14:23 really fast because we want to have
1:14:24 local control over the dollars um the
1:14:26 tax revenue is that is that a fair
1:14:28 assumption I'm
1:14:30 making uh this is the mayor I would say
1:14:33 yes and I think there's a Counterpoint
1:14:35 to that question as well um there's a
1:14:37 reason that the county is going out and
1:14:40 talking to cities and trying to have a
1:14:42 regional approach and I think Leo could
1:14:45 probably address it and it is that the
1:14:47 plan that the county presents assumes
1:14:50 that they can use this funding to
1:14:52 Leverage $400 million to complete the
1:14:55 plan that they've presented and for all
1:14:58 those that pull out and do something on
1:15:00 their own the ability of the county to
1:15:03 execute on their plan begins to diminish
1:15:06 and so um maybe we should go to council
1:15:10 member hall or D Michelle or Mark who
1:15:12 were the three that were proposing it
1:15:14 they can provide some commentary on that
1:15:16 and then I think we should go to King
1:15:17 County to talk about the impacts of
1:15:19 cities pulling out and taking it
1:15:22 themselves so uh who would like to
1:15:27 start council member D
1:15:29 Michelle um I would be happy to start
1:15:33 but I'm wondering if we should put the
1:15:34 motion on the table first and then start
1:15:38 comments I think I don't think Chris is
1:15:41 commenting I think he's asking a
1:15:42 question oh okay then yeah no this
1:15:45 definitely just I'm just curious what
1:15:47 the driver is
1:15:52 yeah uh uh I can explain why I was uh
1:15:56 supportive of putting this on the
1:15:57 discussion tonight um and if you'll
1:16:01 indulge me I it may be a kind of
1:16:04 Meandering but I will come to the point
1:16:07 um it has historically been that isqua
1:16:12 pays uh Human Service taxes to the state
1:16:16 and to the
1:16:17 county um and we don't often get that
1:16:21 full amount of money that we pay back
1:16:24 and uh there are reasons for that we're
1:16:26 a small City we're also perceived as
1:16:29 being uh affluent uh City where there
1:16:32 may not be any poverty which of course
1:16:34 we all know that that's not the case and
1:16:38 um so what does that mean for the people
1:16:41 in our community who are poor and who
1:16:43 are from marginalized communities what
1:16:46 it often means is that if they're going
1:16:48 to try and access Human
1:16:50 Services um they need to travel and they
1:16:53 either travel to Seattle or in uh my
1:16:57 experience because I was on the board at
1:16:58 the together Center in Redmond they
1:17:01 traveled 20 miles to Redmond to access
1:17:03 Services there um we don't have a lot of
1:17:07 uh a lot of services we have more now
1:17:09 than we used to but um in relation to
1:17:13 the taxes that we paid over the years we
1:17:15 don't have a lot and so what this means
1:17:17 for people in our community who are poor
1:17:19 or marginalized uh they um may be worse
1:17:23 off in some ways than they would be if
1:17:26 they were living in Seattle or in South
1:17:29 County um and um so this when I heard
1:17:36 about this particular
1:17:38 proposal um it certainly spoke to the
1:17:41 desire to have to exert more
1:17:44 control uh to make sure that the taxes
1:17:47 we pay here in Isa are going to actually
1:17:50 be used to benefit those in squa who
1:17:53 need them um and I think that it's
1:17:57 important to remember that um exerting
1:18:02 that control means that we will at some
1:18:04 point have a public process we will at
1:18:07 some time have a deliberation we can
1:18:10 decide at that point that we want to
1:18:12 spend the money locally we could also
1:18:14 decide that we want to spend it
1:18:17 regionally if we think it would benefit
1:18:20 community um and uh it puts us more in
1:18:24 the driver's seat uh whereas we have
1:18:27 often been in the in the situation of
1:18:31 putting in taxes and then having very
1:18:33 very little control over how they are
1:18:35 spent and seeing that often they don't
1:18:38 come back here to help the people in our
1:18:40 community and we do have people in our
1:18:42 community who are in need and really
1:18:45 could benefit from having a more robust
1:18:48 Human Service presence in the isqua area
1:18:51 so that's the reason I was very happy to
1:18:55 support putting this on the agenda for
1:18:57 discussion so um so sorry council member
1:19:00 Ray that was a very long Meandering
1:19:02 answer but yes it comes down to control
1:19:05 uh I um I would like to see us insert
1:19:08 more control over where those dollars
1:19:19 going mayor you're
1:19:21 muted
1:19:25 thanks um so thank you for that council
1:19:28 member D Michelle I think that captures
1:19:30 the motivation of at the there were
1:19:34 three council members who asked that
1:19:36 this also come to this meeting this
1:19:37 evening um if the two other council
1:19:39 members would like to supplement that
1:19:41 with any different information that
1:19:42 would be fine but I do want to be
1:19:44 careful that we're not ending up into a
1:19:46 debate at this point in time until a
1:19:47 motion is made and I also would like
1:19:49 King County director Flor to talk about
1:19:53 the impact to the county proposal if
1:19:55 cities were to um take the tax
1:19:58 themselves so council member Marts I
1:20:00 think you add something you wanted to
1:20:02 add thank you Madame mayor this is
1:20:04 council member Mars I just wanted to add
1:20:05 that one of the reasons that I thought
1:20:08 isqua should have this conversation
1:20:10 today was this 30% that um the mayor and
1:20:14 City administrator Bitz both referred to
1:20:17 um there's a provision for cities over
1:20:19 60,000 people um and of course we're
1:20:22 just in that uncomfortable spot we're a
1:20:24 little bit too small we're a big enough
1:20:26 City that we have these serious Human
1:20:28 Service needs but we're not big enough
1:20:29 to meet that 30% engine um so it just
1:20:33 leaves us in a very weird position um so
1:20:37 that's why I wanted to bring this it's
1:20:38 one of the main reasons why I wanted to
1:20:40 bring this issue forward thank you thank
1:20:42 you council member Hall did you want to
1:20:43 add anything to that sure mayor paully
1:20:46 this is council member Hall just to say
1:20:48 that um it was really important to me
1:20:52 that we in the the very least have a
1:20:53 discussion about if this is something
1:20:55 worth exploring at at city level um even
1:20:59 at the point where we suggested that
1:21:02 this be on um the agenda for today's
1:21:06 meeting I had no idea where I would land
1:21:08 and I just was very interested in what
1:21:12 us as a council would think about moving
1:21:14 forward because it was so um the time is
1:21:18 the time crunch is so shortened here so
1:21:21 I hope that helped a little bit includ
1:21:23 including the comments made by council
1:21:25 member D Michelle and Mars it does help
1:21:27 thanks and I wonder director Flor if you
1:21:31 would be able to provide some
1:21:32 information on the County's proposal um
1:21:35 it obviously assumed that all cities in
1:21:38 the county would contribute different we
1:21:40 happen to be a city that is blessed with
1:21:42 a high sales tax which is awesome but a
1:21:45 smaller population and how do these
1:21:48 decisions impact the County's
1:21:51 proposal uh thank you Madame mayor uh so
1:21:54 the uh overall impetus for the uh way
1:21:59 that the executive has made this
1:22:01 proposal uh really stems back to you
1:22:03 know really a directive of his uh to me
1:22:07 which is what is the thing that we can
1:22:09 do that gets thousands of people out of
1:22:14 tents off of streets and into homes
1:22:18 using what we have learned from the co
1:22:20 emergency where we've learned quite a
1:22:21 bit about what were and what doesn't uh
1:22:24 and so in looking at this uh the
1:22:26 underlying State Statute does allow up
1:22:29 to half of the proceeds of the sales tax
1:22:31 to be used for costs associated with
1:22:33 bonding but no more than half uh and so
1:22:36 when we uh came back with a proposal to
1:22:39 the executive uh the 2,000 persons
1:22:42 experiencing chronic homelessness number
1:22:44 really ties to a 400 million doll
1:22:47 ability to bond next year and so uh uh
1:22:51 we believe uh that using uh just less
1:22:54 than than half of the sales tax proceeds
1:22:56 as they are currently projected uh and
1:22:59 we do see as we have seen with the mid
1:23:01 which is another sales tax that sales
1:23:03 tax is sensitive to the economy and
1:23:04 fluctuates and can fluctuate very
1:23:06 quickly uh that and and often down
1:23:10 although rarely much higher than we
1:23:11 project uh that uh we could bond for
1:23:15 $400 million uh be able to go out and
1:23:18 immediately secure single room settings
1:23:20 which is really important um what we
1:23:22 have seen in the co emergency is that uh
1:23:25 shelter the way that we have
1:23:26 traditionally done it in the community
1:23:28 ended up being exactly the type of uh
1:23:30 setting in which disease spread quickly
1:23:33 um we also I think are seeing that it
1:23:35 was never really a great strategy to get
1:23:37 people into housing although it plays a
1:23:39 critical role sometimes in keeping
1:23:40 people alive uh and so uh 2,000 people
1:23:45 uh or 2,000 units single room settings
1:23:47 um plus the ability to provide
1:23:49 sufficient on on-site services to those
1:23:52 people uh and then to to do that in a
1:23:55 way where we were able to move folks
1:23:56 into facilities uh quickly uh as opposed
1:23:59 to years uh we believe that we can move
1:24:01 forward on this strategy in months uh
1:24:03 and we were able to prove that uh I
1:24:06 think with the uh covid hotels and some
1:24:08 other cities this is a different type of
1:24:10 Hotel use than is in issaqua but in
1:24:12 those cases we were able to get hundreds
1:24:14 of people uh off of streets or out of
1:24:16 shelters uh in days uh after signing
1:24:19 leases and so that's the the motivation
1:24:22 I think to to as cities were if cities
1:24:25 were to to reduce the overall
1:24:27 collections that are available to the
1:24:28 county uh it drives down uh at some
1:24:31 point it would begin to drive down the
1:24:33 ability to bond against Revenue uh and
1:24:35 then the other impact it would have is
1:24:37 the uh reduced number of amount of
1:24:40 funding that's available for the
1:24:42 services uh that are available I don't
1:24:44 want to uh over represent and I think
1:24:47 credibility is really important in this
1:24:49 conversation um I think uh I I am not
1:24:52 here to pretend that uh you know uh one
1:24:55 city uh makes the entire effort uh
1:24:58 crumble I think the executive uh is
1:25:00 clearly uh focused on this and and we
1:25:02 will be able you know we will move
1:25:04 forward no matter what and uh all of the
1:25:07 resources matter even if we house 2,000
1:25:09 people who are experiencing chronic
1:25:11 homelessness uh we will have more than
1:25:13 2,000 uh who remain unhoused chronically
1:25:17 uh out of 12,000 people across the
1:25:19 county that we estimate on any given
1:25:21 night are homeless uh and we have every
1:25:23 reason to believe in King County that
1:25:26 homelessness is about to get worse not
1:25:28 better uh we have an economy and we have
1:25:31 a pandemic uh that we know are once in a
1:25:33 century events uh the amount of
1:25:36 evictions that are sort of being held
1:25:38 back by a moratorium right now we
1:25:40 believe that it's more than $180 million
1:25:42 of unpaid rent that was calculated about
1:25:44 two months ago uh and we uh see nothing
1:25:48 uh in the cards right now that is going
1:25:50 to fundamentally relieve that problem
1:25:53 and as as soon as these moratoriums are
1:25:54 done we expect that we're going to have
1:25:56 more folks that we're going to need to
1:25:57 be able to find housing not less and so
1:26:00 the scale and the immed immediacy from
1:26:02 the executives perspective uh were
1:26:05 really
1:26:06 important uh thank you that helps also
1:26:09 Mr Flur our director Flur I wonder um
1:26:12 from the conversation this morning with
1:26:14 the King County Executive there are at
1:26:17 least one other City similar to the city
1:26:20 of isqua where we
1:26:23 raise a significant amount of sales tax
1:26:25 um but we have populations under $60,000
1:26:29 and there was um comments made by the
1:26:32 executive this morning that that doesn't
1:26:35 mean that the county cannot commit to a
1:26:38 particular project or particular funding
1:26:41 in the city even though we don't hit
1:26:43 that threshold um could you talk a
1:26:45 little bit more about that
1:26:48 commitment uh yes madame mayor so the uh
1:26:52 underlying statute and then again a
1:26:54 language that's echoed in the county
1:26:56 proposal is that uh the county must plan
1:26:59 and plan is the verb to spend with any
1:27:01 City whose population exceeds 60,000 at
1:27:03 least 30% of the proceeds that are
1:27:06 attributable to that jurisdiction so it
1:27:08 is not an exclusive uh function in the
1:27:11 uh statute or the ordinance it is that
1:27:14 we must plan uh and so the executive is
1:27:17 right on that uh we not only can but I
1:27:21 think uh intend to expend funds uh
1:27:25 across the county and in fact one of the
1:27:27 things that we really see is that uh
1:27:29 with resources uh such as this sometimes
1:27:32 actually the problem is being able to
1:27:34 expend uh resources as opposed to to uh
1:27:38 cities fighting over access to the
1:27:40 resources um it is one of the just to
1:27:44 point it out uh I think isqua's
1:27:46 leadership in the isolation and
1:27:48 quarantine is really uh uh relevant uh
1:27:51 from the Cy's perspect perspective in
1:27:52 that way uh that not all cities uh would
1:27:55 like uh to have within their uh bounds
1:27:59 certain types of facilities um cities
1:28:01 get to make uh those decisions um and uh
1:28:05 I think we are going to be seeking
1:28:07 Partners who are eager uh to to be able
1:28:10 to provide services for folks
1:28:11 experiencing homelessness and folks
1:28:13 experiencing chronic homelessness and
1:28:15 that has been the pattern in previous
1:28:16 funding sources and I expect it will at
1:28:19 least be a subject of conversation with
1:28:20 this one thank you I am not seeing any
1:28:24 other questions in the Box I'm assuming
1:28:27 that somebody is prepared to make a
1:28:31 motion council member
1:28:35 Hall thank you mayor Paul this is Zach H
1:28:38 and someone should tell me if I'm
1:28:39 messing this up um I would like to
1:28:43 motion to adopt ordinance number
1:28:48 2922 imposing an additional sales and
1:28:50 use tax of one tenth of 1% for housing
1:28:54 and related Services as authorized by
1:29:20 82.14%
1:29:24 Madame mayor this is council member Mar
1:29:25 Al second thank you um and now we're
1:29:30 going to uh go to comments and
1:29:34 discussion um I'm first going to go to
1:29:37 the motion maker council member hall and
1:29:39 then I see council member Goodman has
1:29:42 asked to speak next council member
1:29:45 Hall sure thanks M paully this is uh
1:29:48 council member Zach Hall um I'll just
1:29:51 start by saying um I spent much of the
1:29:56 weekend and even the hours leading up to
1:29:58 this meeting uh connecting with just
1:30:01 over 20 uh community members in isqua I
1:30:04 do not take an ordinance like this
1:30:06 lightly and I wanted to make sure to
1:30:08 connect with as many people that I
1:30:10 consider Community leaders from GE
1:30:12 geographically diverse neighborhoods
1:30:14 across um isqua before um coming into
1:30:18 the meeting tonight
1:30:26 was I am comfortable making the motion
1:30:28 tonight and voting in favor of um this
1:30:33 ordinance because I heard from most
1:30:37 community members that I talked to that
1:30:39 if the County's planning to move forward
1:30:41 with the sales tax increase isqua
1:30:43 issaqua should follow suit retain
1:30:45 control those local dollars and use
1:30:47 those dollars to support our own
1:30:49 community's affordable housing and
1:30:50 Behavioral Health needs and many
1:30:52 community members that I talked to also
1:30:54 said that down the line that can be
1:30:56 changed um I spoke with uh someone that
1:30:59 um I value their advice very much
1:31:01 earlier today who said that if something
1:31:04 can be changed with an ordinance it can
1:31:05 be changed again with an ordinance later
1:31:08 um and I think that speaks to me in this
1:31:10 moment right now and um those are the
1:31:14 reasons why I made the motion tonight
1:31:16 thank you thank you council member Hall
1:31:18 council member
1:31:20 Goodman
1:31:24 thank you mayor Paulie um did you want
1:31:27 to ask the person who made the second to
1:31:30 speak or do you want me to go ahead sure
1:31:32 let's go to council member MZ thank you
1:31:35 Madame mayor well it's a little
1:31:37 complicated because I actually have an
1:31:38 amendment that I would like to make but
1:31:40 I want to ask if council member Goodman
1:31:42 wants to speak before I make my
1:31:47 Amendment uh it it's fine with me um
1:31:50 okay I don't know what
1:31:53 your is but it might change my comments
1:31:57 but I suppose you can make your
1:31:58 Amendment and then I can make my
1:31:59 comments okay well I've put it up um it
1:32:02 basically appends uh to the end of the
1:32:07 motion uh an addendum that says uh but
1:32:10 repealing the sales and use tax if a a
1:32:13 memorandum of understanding covering at
1:32:14 least two million of isqua Transit
1:32:16 oriented development project tenant
1:32:18 improvements is signed with King County
1:32:20 or B if King County does not enact a
1:32:22 countywide one10 of 1% housing and
1:32:25 related Services tax in
1:32:28 2020 is there a
1:32:31 second and if you're looking to read it
1:32:33 it's in the chat
1:32:36 box council member
1:32:38 Hall thanks my is council member Hall
1:32:41 I'll second the motion thank you council
1:32:43 member Mars do you want to speak to the
1:32:45 motion thank you um I
1:32:47 believe uh and this is a weird evening
1:32:51 and anybody help me if I'm wrong but I
1:32:54 believe this addresses the some of the
1:32:57 fundamental issues I'm hearing this
1:32:59 evening um this would do a couple of
1:33:01 things um it would give the county some
1:33:05 time to uh arrange a plan with us um but
1:33:10 would but would very quickly allow them
1:33:14 to plan on the additional Revenue that
1:33:16 they would receive from us um it would
1:33:20 um potentially funds uh an important
1:33:23 project that I believe uh hued to the
1:33:26 goals of um both the original State uh
1:33:30 both the original bill that went through
1:33:32 the legislature and what the County's
1:33:33 trying to do um and then it would also
1:33:36 for the residents of isqua um I want to
1:33:39 be very careful with the new tax and so
1:33:41 if um you know we're we're doing this
1:33:44 quickly because we think that um this is
1:33:47 going to happen and if it were to not
1:33:49 happen it would give some um comfort to
1:33:52 folks in isqua that this isn't something
1:33:54 that we would wind up sort of uh holding
1:33:57 the bag
1:33:59 on thank you and before we move on to um
1:34:05 council member Hall I'm going to go to
1:34:06 City attorney who has a comment I hope
1:34:08 it's a good comment and not telling us
1:34:11 that we're way out of our lane but we'll
1:34:13 see Mr
1:34:17 Haney no I I think uh council member
1:34:20 Mars uh and the council are not way out
1:34:22 of your lane but um I would suggest that
1:34:26 in order to make uh council member
1:34:29 martz's uh motion effective that you may
1:34:32 wish to amend the effective date Clause
1:34:35 of the ordinance uh and I can suggest
1:34:38 some language for that if you give me
1:34:41 just a moment to type it out in the chat
1:34:43 box so that would be great while you're
1:34:46 doing that um um before we get to that
1:34:49 amend Amendment to the amendment I'm
1:34:51 just going to see if we can get some
1:34:53 additional conversation going first so
1:34:55 council member Hall you seconded what
1:34:57 are your
1:35:01 thoughts sure mayor paully uh this is
1:35:04 council member Hall um I think council
1:35:06 member Mark said it really well and I
1:35:08 think that the amendment to the motion
1:35:11 um Falls in line with a lot of the
1:35:12 comments and concerns that I heard from
1:35:14 community members over the week thank
1:35:16 you very much and council member Walsh
1:35:19 has a question followed by council
1:35:20 member de
1:35:22 thank you this is council member m Walsh
1:35:25 the it's not that late I shouldn't be
1:35:28 fumbling my words yet uh so if I'm
1:35:33 reading this amendment right and the
1:35:36 calculation the estimate for our
1:35:39 potential income off of .1% sales tax
1:35:42 would be $1.7 million per
1:35:45 year then doesn't this amendment just
1:35:49 basically mean that rather than getting
1:35:51 $1.7 million per year we would only be
1:35:54 getting $2 million at a minimum for a
1:35:58 one-time
1:35:59 project that doesn't rock for me but is
1:36:05 that what that
1:36:06 means I think what it does this is the
1:36:08 mayor speaking I think what um council
1:36:11 member Marts is trying to do is to put a
1:36:14 bookmark on a project that's already in
1:36:16 progress and saying if it's a qualifier
1:36:19 under the county plan it should get
1:36:21 funding and we'd like an assurance of
1:36:24 that but the county uh wide funds
1:36:27 collected and the coordination with Arch
1:36:30 and other housing authorities doesn't
1:36:32 mean we're not getting anything out
1:36:34 anything else it just means we haven't
1:36:36 called out anything else
1:36:43 specific council member Marts is that
1:36:46 your r i I couldn't have said it better
1:36:49 better mayor thank you
1:36:52 uh council member Walsh did you have a
1:36:54 follow-up
1:36:56 question no I'll just
1:37:00 listen council member D Michelle
1:37:02 followed by Deputy council president Ray
1:37:05 thank you I had exactly the same
1:37:08 question and I guess uh to follow up on
1:37:11 council member Walsh's question then um
1:37:15 my understanding is when the county
1:37:17 imposes this tax there is no end date to
1:37:20 it is that
1:37:23 correct did administrator Bob
1:37:26 quitz yes my understanding is that there
1:37:29 is no uh Sunset date in the ordinance
1:37:32 that the county is considering so that
1:37:34 would would continue until such time
1:37:36 that King County would uh Council would
1:37:38 repeal it I also would imagine the
1:37:40 Washington State Legislature might be
1:37:42 able to pass legislation but no there's
1:37:44 no there's no end dat contemplated at
1:37:49 point deputy councel president R so I
1:37:53 think this is a comment might be a
1:37:54 question not really quite sure what it
1:37:56 is um the way I read this amendment or I
1:37:59 understand the intent of this amendment
1:38:01 is we're going to give up local control
1:38:03 but um in exchange we we want a g or
1:38:08 some assurances that we will have the
1:38:10 funding that um we could have gotten if
1:38:13 we had moved forward this to help fund
1:38:15 the transit oriented development project
1:38:18 but in the long term um this is to
1:38:20 council members D Michelle and Walsh um
1:38:23 this would not provide that local
1:38:25 control it's council member Mart is that
1:38:28 a u kind of what your intent was in this
1:38:33 or am I missing
1:38:35 something um I would say thank thank you
1:38:39 for the opportunity to answer that
1:38:40 question um Deputy council president uh
1:38:44 I I would say it's more as the mayor
1:38:47 stated it's I would have an expectation
1:38:50 that we would have a proportional
1:38:52 engagement with all the other cities in
1:38:55 King County um down the road as things
1:38:58 move forward but because we had a
1:39:00 project that has been simmering for five
1:39:02 years um I you know it's uh I want to
1:39:06 see that squared away I think that this
1:39:09 sales tax draws from a much larger
1:39:12 portion of King County than just the
1:39:14 city of isqua so um while we could
1:39:18 perhaps um keep all of it um I think our
1:39:22 history as a as a city shows that you
1:39:25 know in terms of Engagement with Arch
1:39:28 and in uh our adoption of the covid
1:39:31 shelter and our support for YWCA and our
1:39:35 ongoing and regular support for 10
1:39:37 cities I think we have been part of
1:39:39 regional Solutions and
1:39:42 uh you know if it's the will of this
1:39:44 body to to keep all that money I
1:39:48 understand it but I really um was trying
1:39:51 to support what the county is trying to
1:39:53 do while still honor a project that has
1:39:56 been gestating for a
1:40:00 while Deputy council president ra is and
1:40:02 answer your
1:40:04 question uh yeah can I make a just a
1:40:07 follow on
1:40:09 comment sure um I I I think this is
1:40:14 really effective because even though if
1:40:17 we were to do the 1% and would take the
1:40:20 one .7 million a year there's also a
1:40:23 requirement for some infrastructure to
1:40:25 administer that and one of the
1:40:28 opportunities for or advantages of um
1:40:32 having the county administer the entire
1:40:34 um bucket of money is the there's
1:40:37 economies of scale and so there will be
1:40:38 more dollars available for Direct
1:40:40 Services because there'll be less money
1:40:42 spent individually on um administering
1:40:45 the programs and so from my perspective
1:40:47 this this amendment goes a long ways to
1:40:50 to really driving some
1:40:54 important um initiatives here at the
1:40:56 city and at the same time gives the
1:40:58 county some control or um the economies
1:41:02 of scale and also helps us address these
1:41:05 problems regionally which is where I
1:41:06 kind of believe they they belong so I I
1:41:10 think this this makes good sense to
1:41:12 me thank you Deputy council president
1:41:15 Ray I believe next up is council
1:41:17 president
1:41:19 hunt thank you council president hunt on
1:41:22 the amendment I think this um does
1:41:25 fundamentally change the outcome of um
1:41:30 the original motion because I think from
1:41:33 my reading um from both the comments
1:41:35 that were made by Mr FL earlier as well
1:41:37 as my reading of the email that we
1:41:40 received by Council chair beluchi I
1:41:42 think that um she indicated that it is a
1:41:46 very strong commitment by the council
1:41:48 that they have already um earmarked $10
1:41:51 million for the transit oriented
1:41:52 development and indicating support of
1:41:55 this project by the county so I think
1:41:57 that it's very likely that um there is
1:42:00 that support and that this if the um
1:42:03 sales tax were to be implemented that
1:42:06 that project would be eligible based on
1:42:08 all the information presented this
1:42:09 evening and also that there support for
1:42:11 this as a very important Regional um
1:42:15 resource so I I think that um the appeal
1:42:21 part of the amendment is very likely to
1:42:23 happen um and also since I think that a
1:42:27 regional approach to homelessness and to
1:42:29 affordable housing makes a lot of sense
1:42:32 I I do believe that um plans at the
1:42:35 regional level for those
1:42:37 issues is appropriate so I am in support
1:42:41 of the amendment and I also appreciate
1:42:44 both the Amendments and the motion um
1:42:46 being brought forward it was very short
1:42:48 timing but I think it's been explained
1:42:49 this evening that for us to consider it
1:42:52 at all we really with any chance of
1:42:54 taking action we really had to had to um
1:42:57 act quickly and so that was the that was
1:43:00 the very reasonable reason for why this
1:43:02 was brought forward as quickly as it
1:43:04 was thank you council president hunt um
1:43:07 I am seeing an additional question but
1:43:10 before we move on I wonder if the clerk
1:43:13 could read the proposed edit to the
1:43:16 motion so that those people watching can
1:43:20 see it because not everybody can read
1:43:21 our chat box so city clerk could you
1:43:24 read uh what Mr Haney has proposed and
1:43:27 see if we get our mover and seconder to
1:43:32 agree yes the proposed um or potential
1:43:36 proposed amendment to the amendment
1:43:37 would be to add to the effective date
1:43:39 Clause this ordinance and the sales and
1:43:41 use tax imposed herein shall be
1:43:43 automatic repealed if a a memorandum of
1:43:46 understanding providing at least $2
1:43:47 million of funding for isqua transit or
1:43:50 un devel velopment project tenant
1:43:52 improvements is signed with King County
1:43:54 or B if King County does not enact a
1:43:57 countywide on10th of 1% housing and
1:44:00 related Services tax honor before
1:44:02 December 31
1:44:04 2020 thank you um council member marks
1:44:07 do you agree with the edit yeah that was
1:44:10 going to be my question whether we could
1:44:11 treat it as a I don't know if it's a
1:44:13 scrier error or scrier change or
1:44:16 whatever whatever it is I it's I totally
1:44:18 fine with me it doesn't change the
1:44:21 point of yeah thank you and council
1:44:24 member Hall I believe you were the
1:44:25 second you agree with the change so we
1:44:28 will go back to discussing this
1:44:30 amendment and I believe we have a
1:44:31 question from council member marks no
1:44:34 that had been that had I you you you
1:44:36 anticipated my question by engaging Jim
1:44:39 thank you telepathy okay uh council
1:44:42 member D Michelle has a question though
1:44:45 thank you uh this question is for uh Jim
1:44:48 um does the on or before December excuse
1:44:53 me does the on or before December 31st
1:44:55 2020 apply to both the A and the b in
1:45:01 Amendment or does it apply only to the
1:45:04 to the um B
1:45:08 part well the way it's drafted it
1:45:11 applies only to the B part but um and
1:45:15 and that was the way I understood the
1:45:16 proposed amendment from Miss from
1:45:18 council member marts
1:45:21 some head nods there from council member
1:45:23 Mars okay thank
1:45:25 you additional comments or questions
1:45:29 I'll give a few seconds for people to
1:45:31 use the
1:45:38 chats and let's go to Deputy council
1:45:41 president Ray thank you mayor paully
1:45:43 Chris Ray uh I'm confused a little bit
1:45:47 so and and tell me if this is intent but
1:45:49 B says that the County does not enact a
1:45:52 countywide one1 of 1%
1:45:54 housing uh and related Services tax
1:45:57 honor before December 31st that leads me
1:46:00 to say that if they don't um enact one
1:46:03 we would repeal this it seems to me that
1:46:06 we would
1:46:09 would um we wouldn't want to repeal this
1:46:11 if they're not enacting a countywide tax
1:46:15 I mean we want somebody to to be
1:46:18 enacting the tax I think
1:46:21 am I am I misreading this or no you're
1:46:24 reading it correctly that is a really
1:46:25 great question this is the mayor what it
1:46:28 allows you to do is to enact it at a
1:46:30 later date when you've had a chance to
1:46:32 go out to the community and talk about
1:46:36 what your plan is for doing it and then
1:46:39 having a vote so you don't lose the
1:46:40 right to enact it but it gives you time
1:46:43 it gives you time to kind of run the
1:46:45 process that you typically run instead
1:46:47 of what we're doing tonight which feels
1:46:49 really really quick got it you still
1:46:51 retain the rights thank you for the
1:46:54 clarification no worries and we will go
1:46:56 to council president hunt and then
1:46:58 council member
1:47:01 Marts thank you this is council
1:47:04 president hunt I um I just wanted to add
1:47:07 that I do think it's it would be a
1:47:10 fundamentally different conversation we
1:47:12 would be having if we were not so
1:47:15 strongly considering the very near in
1:47:18 the very near future that the King
1:47:19 County Council is very like to enact
1:47:21 this tax so um this is really responding
1:47:24 to that deadline and it's um it's
1:47:29 presupposing that they will make a
1:47:30 decision in within a couple weeks so I
1:47:33 think um I my comments would be very
1:47:36 different if we were all of a sudden
1:47:38 considering on for one evening um
1:47:40 imposing a sales tax without having had
1:47:43 any um priv previous discussion with the
1:47:46 community or anything else about it I
1:47:48 think that's that's important
1:47:51 context and we have a question from
1:47:53 council member
1:47:56 Goodman thank you um council member
1:47:59 Goodman here um can um perhaps um Mr FL
1:48:03 or somebody else remind
1:48:05 me um what the
1:48:08 County's um commitment is currently um
1:48:14 if the city were not to enact this tax
1:48:19 uh what the Count's commitment would be
1:48:21 to isqua to help with the deficit that
1:48:24 we have for the opportunity
1:48:28 Center if city does not take
1:48:31 control
1:48:42 of uh uh please let me know if you would
1:48:45 not like me to speak right now but I can
1:48:47 um council member Goodman um uh I I am
1:48:50 not uh uh here or or able to you know
1:48:54 definitively State on behalf of the
1:48:55 county that we will do a thing uh I
1:48:58 would certainly defer to uh the council
1:49:01 member Bal DUI's communication earlier
1:49:04 uh to members of the council uh and then
1:49:07 to again state that as a general matter
1:49:10 this uh one looks eligible um two can
1:49:14 County does have other funding sources
1:49:15 that are available to us uh for which
1:49:18 this would be an eligible expense uh and
1:49:20 three uh I think we are are are eager
1:49:23 and enthusiastic about partnership with
1:49:25 cities uh in uh your region of the
1:49:28 county um where we do see that there is
1:49:31 significant need as council member D
1:49:32 Michelle mentioned earlier um and we
1:49:35 don't yet see the same density of
1:49:37 support for those types of services as
1:49:39 we see uh in other regions of the County
1:49:42 so I will not overstate my ability to uh
1:49:45 my inability to commit uh the county um
1:49:47 and I will say that uh the executive I
1:49:50 think had conveyed enthusiasm for
1:49:52 support um and I believe that council
1:49:55 member balduchi uh has as
1:49:59 well thank
1:50:08 you may you're
1:50:12 mute okay I put another dollar in the
1:50:15 jar that's two for tonight there you go
1:50:18 um I'm not seeing any other comments or
1:50:21 questions in the Box although I will
1:50:23 give it a few more seconds and uh the
1:50:25 vote will be um on the
1:50:29 amendment uh so still not seeing
1:50:33 anybody okay so just to
1:50:36 clarify the Amendment states that this
1:50:39 ordinance and the sales and use tax
1:50:41 imposed herein shall be automatically
1:50:43 repealed if a a memorandum of
1:50:45 understanding providing at least 2
1:50:47 million of funding for isqua Transit
1:50:49 oriented development project pennant
1:50:51 improvements is signed with King County
1:50:53 or B if County does not enact a
1:50:56 countywide on10th of 1% housing and
1:50:59 related service tax honored before
1:51:01 December 31st 2020 and I will go to the
1:51:05 city clerk for a roll call
1:51:07 Vote Yes starting with council president
1:51:12 I council member Mars
1:51:15 I Deputy council president Ray I
1:51:20 council member
1:51:22 Walsh
1:51:24 nay council member D
1:51:27 Michelle
1:51:29 nay excuse me was that a nay yes thank
1:51:33 you council member
1:51:36 Goodman
1:51:38 I council member Hall
1:51:41 I that's five eyes two
1:51:45 nay thank you so that passes the 5 to2 I
1:51:49 have a question for the city clerk um
1:51:53 before I go back to council and ask
1:51:55 about comments on the main motion when I
1:51:57 reread it do I now read it with the
1:51:59 amendment when I read it into the
1:52:02 record version I think it'd be to
1:52:05 sufficient to just reference it as
1:52:07 amended okay thanks when you read it so
1:52:10 back to the council then any comments
1:52:12 question or additional discussion on the
1:52:15 proposed uh motion as
1:52:18 amended I have to scoop to the bottom
1:52:25 see okay council member
1:52:29 Goodman I'm seeing a comment at 855 so
1:52:32 I'm assuming that's
1:52:34 you thank you council member Goodman
1:52:36 here um so this
1:52:39 is so this is the amended main motion so
1:52:43 this is um when I had first had a
1:52:45 comment and then to I asked if he could
1:52:47 make an amendment and so we're back are
1:52:49 we back there
1:52:50 back there
1:52:53 okay oh it's only 5 to n oh joy um so
1:52:59 from you know from what I'm hearing here
1:53:02 um that I appreciate um Mr FL not having
1:53:08 the authority to make any kind of
1:53:09 commitment um but the county has been
1:53:11 unbelievably committed to the Tod
1:53:13 project what we heard from um uh Council
1:53:17 King County Council chair um Claudia
1:53:19 balduchi is that um of course she she
1:53:22 can't guarantee anything but very
1:53:24 confident we can get to a place we were
1:53:26 able to use County 1590 sales tax
1:53:29 revenue to fill the $2 million gap for
1:53:31 the tenant improvements in your project
1:53:33 she will fight for that I feel very good
1:53:35 that it will be supported and well
1:53:36 received by my colleagues on the County
1:53:38 Council um and also we heard that um uh
1:53:43 the county has Partnerships with the
1:53:44 cities in this region um where they see
1:53:47 there is a need um and enthusiastic
1:53:51 about um those
1:53:53 needs and I um appreciate the amendment
1:53:57 but um I'm not going to support this
1:53:59 tonight and I'm going to say why I I do
1:54:03 think that all we have to do is work
1:54:05 with the county um for the help with the
1:54:07 deficit I think all indications are
1:54:09 there um keeping in mind that this is
1:54:11 not an approved project although we've
1:54:13 been working at it it's not an approved
1:54:15 project um it's a proposed project at
1:54:18 this point and I have to say that I
1:54:24 am very very concerned um about voting
1:54:28 to impose a new tax with one weekend's
1:54:32 notice to the public with um zero
1:54:36 opportunity for the public to learn
1:54:37 about the relevant and meaningful
1:54:39 details I think we started off with a
1:54:41 comment tonight from the administration
1:54:44 that somehow this has been out there for
1:54:45 a week or two um I don't know where it's
1:54:47 been out there but the first time it
1:54:49 landed in my mailbox was um I believe it
1:54:52 was Friday maybe it was
1:54:54 Thursday but in any event the agenda
1:54:56 didn't come out till Friday um so again
1:54:59 zero opportunity for the public to learn
1:55:01 the relevant and meaningful details and
1:55:03 to weigh in in any kind of meaningful
1:55:06 way um again a new tax that would dilute
1:55:09 a collection by King County um that
1:55:12 would be spent on Regional issues that
1:55:14 should be supported with regional
1:55:16 dollars and I think that um a vote here
1:55:18 will come back to invite us in our rear
1:55:21 when we want to go out to our local
1:55:22 folks here in the future and ask if they
1:55:25 would tax themselves for transportation
1:55:27 projects um reminding all of us here
1:55:31 that the number one priority in our city
1:55:33 for 25 years is
1:55:36 transportation um also we are in the
1:55:38 middle of a pandemic and we with us
1:55:40 talking nearly every meeting for seven
1:55:43 months now about the financial hardships
1:55:45 that people are facing and I don't
1:55:47 really know what we're doing here
1:55:49 talking about new tax we have been
1:55:50 urging other agencies to lower their
1:55:52 fees and even tonight we mentioned
1:55:54 Cascade water Alliance and our City's
1:55:56 concerns about that agency raising their
1:55:59 existing rates yet we would seriously
1:56:01 consider imposing a new tax I really
1:56:04 think this is a terrible
1:56:05 process um and I guess I should correct
1:56:08 myself because I don't see that there is
1:56:10 any process so if King County Council
1:56:12 wants to impose a regional tax for
1:56:14 regional solutions to Regional problems
1:56:17 um then I think that that's great I
1:56:19 think it's great that they can use that
1:56:20 money to house um 2,000 houseless
1:56:25 people but taking that for ourselves um
1:56:30 not um I don't think that bodess well
1:56:33 for us um it means we're not a regional
1:56:35 partner um I don't think that helps our
1:56:37 relationship with King County so I won't
1:56:40 support this um and quite frankly I
1:56:44 again think this is terrible
1:56:46 government's model that we would come
1:56:47 out on a Friday and impose a new tax on
1:56:50 a Monday I really don't care what the
1:56:51 circumstances are um it's a little
1:56:53 shocking to me so I'm going to vote
1:56:56 no thank you council member Goodman I'm
1:56:59 looking for additional comments from any
1:57:01 other council members before we proceed
1:57:03 to the
1:57:07 vote and they are showing up council
1:57:10 president
1:57:14 hunt thank you this is council president
1:57:16 hunt one of my big concerns
1:57:20 um going into this which I still have is
1:57:23 that sales tax is a regressive tax it's
1:57:27 actually acknowledged in the um in our
1:57:30 packet materials in the health through
1:57:31 housing um documentation it says
1:57:34 attempts at more Progressive Revenue
1:57:36 sources have failed leaving the sales
1:57:39 tax as the only available tool um I do
1:57:43 fundamentally have a issue with using a
1:57:45 regressive tax which we would expect to
1:57:48 hurt um lower income people more um than
1:57:54 um than a more Progressive source of
1:57:56 Revenue um for this affordable housing
1:57:59 and for homelessness um so that's a
1:58:01 that's a fundamental issue I have with
1:58:04 the um with the tax itself I I um do
1:58:10 understand why this was brought forward
1:58:11 today with the rush I think that it was
1:58:13 a very very unique circumstance that the
1:58:16 way that this bill from the state H um
1:58:19 house has been crafted is that you have
1:58:22 a period of time where the county could
1:58:24 have imposed this and then you have a
1:58:25 period of time in which the cities or
1:58:27 the county could as well as the 30% um
1:58:30 Revenue going back to cities above
1:58:32 60,000 I mean it's very it's it's a very
1:58:34 complicated issue and this really was
1:58:36 the only time I as far as I can tell
1:58:39 that we could have considered it while
1:58:42 having the opportunity to take action so
1:58:43 I completely understand why it was
1:58:45 brought forward um and I I agree that it
1:58:49 would have been much better to have more
1:58:51 opportunity to consider it um for
1:58:53 ourselves as well as for the public but
1:58:55 at the same time I just don't see how
1:58:56 that would have been possible so again I
1:58:58 understand the the timing um I am
1:59:00 concerned about being a regressive tax I
1:59:02 also think that the regional model Works
1:59:06 um well many of the people that um are
1:59:09 experiencing homelessness it's a it's a
1:59:11 regional issue so we often um see that
1:59:14 we are referring people to other
1:59:16 services in other cities for instance
1:59:18 that we don't have those services within
1:59:20 isqua so working together I think serves
1:59:23 our community better actually in this in
1:59:26 this way in a number of areas um as I
1:59:28 said I think the amendment fundamentally
1:59:30 changes the the motion's outcome the
1:59:33 main motion because I based on the email
1:59:35 that I received I really think that um
1:59:39 the county is supportive of the to
1:59:41 project in particular and I think they
1:59:43 will commit to that um and they will
1:59:46 commit to helping us make that happen
1:59:50 thank you council member D Michelle oh
1:59:54 sorry council member Hall followed by
1:59:56 council member D
1:59:58 Michelle thank you mayor paully this is
2:00:00 council member Hall um I'm still steing
2:00:03 a um some comments so I might actually
2:00:06 um enter the chat again after this but I
2:00:10 did want to point out that the state
2:00:14 legislature um in their wisdom created a
2:00:18 bill by which they wanted to give a tool
2:00:21 to both counties and cities to help
2:00:25 support affordable housing and
2:00:26 Behavioral Health needs so I don't feel
2:00:28 in any way that we're taking any dollars
2:00:30 away from anyone um I also do agree um
2:00:35 with most everything that's been said
2:00:37 this evening we are certainly between a
2:00:39 rock and a hard place and at the end of
2:00:41 the day in my mind um this tax increase
2:00:47 is happening whether we want it to or
2:00:49 so in my mind as um a public servant and
2:00:54 after conversations with the community
2:00:56 over the weekend I believe that it's in
2:00:57 the best interest of isal to to um
2:01:01 ensure that the um transportation
2:01:04 oriented or Transit oriented development
2:01:06 project are the project that is in the
2:01:08 works here in isqua gets fully realized
2:01:12 and um I feel really passionate about
2:01:14 that so those are my comments for
2:01:28 another dollar I'm up to$ three council
2:01:30 member D
2:01:33 Michelle thank you thank you mayor
2:01:36 paully
2:01:38 um so I totally agree that the sales tax
2:01:42 is regressive it's a terrible tax we
2:01:45 have an awful tax system in Washington
2:01:47 state those statements are true but
2:01:51 whether or not we vote for this tonight
2:01:53 it's going to get imposed
2:01:56 anyway um I think that imposing a new
2:01:59 tax in the middle of a pandemic is a
2:02:02 terrible idea but whether or not we vote
2:02:05 tonight it's going to get imposed anyway
2:02:08 so the issue is not whether or we're
2:02:11 whether or not we're going to have a new
2:02:13 tax or a sales tax it's whether or not
2:02:15 we get to control the outcome of those
2:02:18 taxes that that's the issue in front of
2:02:20 us and as for being a good uh Regional
2:02:23 partner I want you to look and see
2:02:26 what's happened just because we put this
2:02:28 on the agenda um we put it on the agenda
2:02:31 and we have the executive and we have
2:02:33 the King County council president and we
2:02:36 have Mr FL here discussing with us uh
2:02:40 sometimes you need to kick up a little
2:02:42 bit of best to get the attention and
2:02:45 that's what we've done and I think that
2:02:47 we need to follow through for the people
2:02:50 in our community who need uh us to stand
2:02:53 up for them and exert this control we
2:02:56 can still decide to be a regional
2:02:59 partner all the difference is that we
2:03:02 are going to uh make that decision
2:03:05 ourselves in a timely way we've got
2:03:08 several months to make this decision we
2:03:10 can do the public process that wouldn't
2:03:13 have happened anyway because the C Ken
2:03:16 County Council didn't do an Outreach to
2:03:18 our citizens
2:03:19 so the fact that we haven't done a
2:03:21 public process that's what we can do
2:03:23 between now and December the 31st I'm
2:03:26 going to vote for this um because I
2:03:28 think this is the best thing we can do
2:03:30 for the citizens of isqua thank
2:03:33 you thank
2:03:35 you uh council member Marts thank you
2:03:39 Madame mayor this is council member
2:03:40 Marts I totally agree with council
2:03:43 member Goodman that this process has
2:03:45 been really unfortunate um it is is you
2:03:49 never like to make decisions hastily
2:03:53 especially when it involves taxation um
2:03:57 but uh our hand was forced by the timing
2:04:00 of this and I'll tell you that those of
2:04:02 us who talked Thursday morning about
2:04:05 wanting to bring this forward I know for
2:04:07 a fact within a half hour they had
2:04:09 called all the other council members to
2:04:11 let them know that there was this
2:04:13 conversation coming without without
2:04:15 trying to persuade anybody um so but I
2:04:18 get it's really really unfortunate and
2:04:20 quite frankly I understand why you have
2:04:22 a no vote on this tonight um but um I do
2:04:26 think it is an opportunity this train is
2:04:28 leaving the station um we can uh we can
2:04:33 assure uh a we can assure commitment for
2:04:38 any for a project that um is has been
2:04:41 under consideration as you point out
2:04:43 isn't isn't a done deal but has been
2:04:45 under consideration for years um you
2:04:48 know in terms of um enshrining this
2:04:53 getting getting this commitment from the
2:04:54 county um I think it's awesome that the
2:04:57 County council president wrote to us but
2:04:59 as Ronald raiken said trust but verify
2:05:03 and uh this uh would make sure that um
2:05:07 this issue got addressed finally on the
2:05:10 question of regressive taxation I have
2:05:12 often often often from the day it's
2:05:15 talked about how much I don't like
2:05:16 regressive taxes but I'll point out that
2:05:19 the taxation is regressive but the
2:05:21 benefit is regressive as well right this
2:05:23 is to provide services for uh the the
2:05:27 most at risk folks in our community so
2:05:30 the revenue is coming um is not
2:05:33 Progressive but the benefit is also um
2:05:36 specifically around uh you know isn't
2:05:40 the benefit doesn't go to the most
2:05:41 affluent um in our community so I I
2:05:45 never like sales taxes but at least the
2:05:48 the re the revenues and the expenditures
2:05:52 are are more closely aligned on this
2:05:54 than many of the ways um that we use
2:05:56 sales taxes so I of course will be
2:05:58 continuing uh I will support this uh uh
2:06:02 motion going forward thank
2:06:11 you you're on mute Madam
2:06:14 mayor going to be broke by the end of
2:06:16 the night council member Goodman
2:06:19 thank you um first of all no I didn't
2:06:23 get a call second of all my knowledge of
2:06:27 it is the least of my concerns it's
2:06:29 about the community second of all uh we
2:06:32 don't need to control it King County has
2:06:34 a regional plan um third of all we're
2:06:38 arguing against ourselves we don't like
2:06:41 regressive taxes yet we're voting for
2:06:43 one we like process but we don't have
2:06:45 one I just think it's
2:06:47 terrible and it's going to come back to
2:06:49 bite us just wait
2:06:53 thanks thank you council president
2:06:59 hunt thank you um this council president
2:07:03 hunt I um wanted to add that in addition
2:07:07 to the email um that we received from
2:07:11 the King uh County chair beluchi I also
2:07:15 did very briefly speak to her on the
2:07:17 phone because I had sent in question it
2:07:19 was relayed to her and um I was able to
2:07:21 have a quick conversation by a phone
2:07:22 with her and one thing that she um said
2:07:25 is she understood that the reason uh why
2:07:29 cities including isua were um taking
2:07:32 this item Up And discussing it was
2:07:34 really Our concern around the affordable
2:07:37 the needs for affordable housing
2:07:39 understanding that our community does
2:07:40 really really need affordable housing
2:07:42 and also services to address individuals
2:07:45 um to help individuals experiencing
2:07:47 homelessness so I think that um from my
2:07:50 perspective as I as I said I think a few
2:07:52 times now I really think it's likely
2:07:54 that the county will work with us to
2:07:57 address not only the to but I think our
2:08:00 our continued needs in this area I think
2:08:03 that the um to is one nearer term
2:08:07 project but then this tax that the
2:08:10 county is considering um would be in
2:08:12 place for for many years potentially
2:08:16 it's not doesn't have an end date as far
2:08:18 as I know
2:08:19 um and so I think that the county we
2:08:21 would need to continue to partner with
2:08:23 the county on how to use this um funding
2:08:25 to represent to best represent the
2:08:27 interests of the community and again I
2:08:29 think that a regional approach um does
2:08:32 make sense we have we have bought into
2:08:34 that Regional approach in other ways as
2:08:35 well such as through Arch which as as my
2:08:38 question earlier I believe that this
2:08:40 funding will also be used to support the
2:08:42 regional approach that's embodied by
2:08:44 Arch um so for those reasons and that I
2:08:47 and the fact that I think I can't get
2:08:49 over that it's um a regressive tax in a
2:08:52 pandemic I'm very
2:08:55 concerned thank you going to Deputy
2:08:57 council president Ray next thank you
2:08:59 mayor Paulie this is Chris Ray a couple
2:09:01 thoughts one is um I did get notified on
2:09:04 Thursday so thank you council member
2:09:06 March for giving me a heads up I
2:09:07 appreciate that a lot gave me at least
2:09:09 some time to start thinking about it um
2:09:12 allbe it um it was short notice and so
2:09:14 the you know the process is not optimal
2:09:17 and particularly when we're talking
2:09:18 about taxes and and I just have a hard
2:09:20 time uh getting behind any tax increase
2:09:24 without any kind of public comment and
2:09:26 we didn't hear anything from the public
2:09:28 today so um I can't believe no one um um
2:09:32 was moved to talk if they knew this was
2:09:34 was going to be coming um second I don't
2:09:37 think it's fair to talk about local
2:09:38 control for for two reasons one is half
2:09:41 of our sales tax doesn't come from the
2:09:42 city of isqua it comes from the region
2:09:44 so it's really Regional sales tax it's
2:09:46 not isqua resident Sal sales tax so um
2:09:49 this is a regional tax Source it's not
2:09:52 um isqua tax source and then secondly
2:09:55 when we talk about Regional control
2:09:57 there's Regional responsibilities and if
2:09:59 we're going to control the the taxes and
2:10:01 the the revenues and the programs um
2:10:03 we've got an overhead associated with
2:10:04 which we haven't talked about at all um
2:10:07 how are we going to manage and
2:10:08 administer this $1.7 million a year how
2:10:11 much is going to be carved out of um the
2:10:14 money available for services so that we
2:10:16 can administer it as opposed to having
2:10:18 King County administer where they
2:10:19 already have an infrastructure um number
2:10:23 three um we are Regional players I mean
2:10:25 we've been very successful with
2:10:27 affordable housing with Arch and working
2:10:30 in um the larger
2:10:32 community and being good players and and
2:10:34 pooling our resources to get the optimal
2:10:37 results and then the last thing is I
2:10:38 want to be known to King County is is a
2:10:40 city that is good to work with that
2:10:43 we're we are good players and that we if
2:10:45 we can't make a case to King County that
2:10:47 are needs are important then um we
2:10:50 haven't done a good job of making our
2:10:51 case so I I think that there there you
2:10:55 know I agree with council member D
2:10:57 Michelle this is very likely to happen
2:11:00 anyway we're going to have a regressive
2:11:02 uh sales tax anyway um I just think King
2:11:05 County is in a better position to
2:11:06 administer this resource than we would
2:11:09 um for um you know a number of reasons
2:11:12 that I just stated thank
2:11:24 Madame
2:11:27 mayor okay so I'm gonna come clean there
2:11:30 is an event going on outside that keeps
2:11:32 making a lot of noise so I feel like I
2:11:34 have to turn this off and so okay I'm up
2:11:36 to $5 doar now I totally get it I'm not
2:11:39 going to touch the button anymore
2:11:40 because the event is over so there you
2:11:41 go um we have had a lot of comments and
2:11:45 we've gone almost all the way around the
2:11:47 table the only person I can see that may
2:11:49 not have had an opportunity to make
2:11:51 comment so far is council member Walsh
2:11:54 and so while I'm waiting to see if
2:11:55 anybody else you can just give me a head
2:11:57 nod if you uh wanted to chime in or
2:12:02 not I guess I can chime
2:12:05 in uh and you know what I will just uh
2:12:08 this is council member Walsh I will just
2:12:11 say what council member D Michelle said
2:12:13 uh this is going to happen and I think
2:12:16 we owe it to our community members
2:12:19 to have some local control if we can um
2:12:23 but also be a regional player so I think
2:12:27 this gives us an opportunity to do that
2:12:30 um on the short
2:12:31 timeline thank you council member Walsh
2:12:34 it looks like we're at the end of the
2:12:37 comments so I will go back and read the
2:12:40 original motion that's been moved and
2:12:43 seconded and amended um the motion is to
2:12:47 adopt ordinance
2:12:49 number
2:12:52 2922 imposing an additional sales and
2:12:55 use tax of one1 of 1% for housing and
2:12:58 related Services as authorized by RCW
2:13:03 8214 530 adding a new section 3.04
2:13:07 point0 26 to the isqua municipal code
2:13:10 providing for severability and
2:13:12 establishing an effective date as
2:13:16 amended and I'll go to the city clerk
2:13:18 for a roll call
2:13:20 Vote Yes council member
2:13:22 Marts hi Deputy council president Ray
2:13:27 no council member
2:13:30 Walsh
2:13:32 I council member D Michelle
2:13:35 I council member Goodman
2:13:39 nay council member
2:13:43 I council president hunt
2:13:48 that's four eyes three
2:13:51 naay thank you it passes off four to
2:13:54 three um the next item on our agenda
2:13:58 before we move on I believe H it's
2:14:01 appropriate for us to take a f minute
2:14:03 break it's about 9:16 we'll pull
2:14:05 everybody back together around
2:19:46 Tisha it looks like we have all of our
2:19:47 council members
2:19:49 back yes it sure does and uh maybe we
2:19:52 can just confirm with Tim that we're
2:19:55 online maybe we don't have Tisha
2:20:06 back so yes mayor I give you a
2:20:09 10c notice to start the
2:20:16 video
2:20:23 is Mayor paie can you hear us all
2:20:32 right mayor
2:20:36 pulie thanks
2:20:40 uh set to work how can you hear me
2:20:43 now great we can hear you can can you
2:20:47 hear us I can and did Tim give the 10
2:20:50 second go
2:20:51 ahead okay great thanks so calling us
2:20:55 back from our break uh we are several
2:20:59 more items to go I'm going to go to the
2:21:02 city administrator for a comment before
2:21:04 we start our next
2:21:06 item yes Madam yes madame mayor thank
2:21:09 you um
2:21:12 whoops you are muted
2:21:15 Wally thank you Madame mayor um we have
2:21:18 three items left I'd like to propose
2:21:20 that we take the environment board item
2:21:22 and move it to your meeting on October
2:21:25 October the 19th we would really like to
2:21:27 get the last two items uh done on the
2:21:30 affordable housing issue um it's 9:30 at
2:21:33 this point we probably still have
2:21:35 another hour and a half uh just for the
2:21:38 two housing items um so we propose
2:21:41 moving the environment board to the
2:21:44 19th have a couple of comments on that
2:21:46 let's start with with council member
2:21:48 Goodman and council president hunt
2:21:50 council member
2:21:52 Goodman um if council president hunt
2:21:55 would like to go before me because she's
2:21:57 council president I'm fine with that but
2:21:59 okay um
2:22:02 I um just as a heads up I was um the
2:22:07 environmental board might be quick um if
2:22:11 my I was going to make a motion to refer
2:22:13 it back with specific questions to PPC
2:22:15 and um so if we address that initial so
2:22:19 depending on the late hour could we
2:22:21 decide later whether we want to do the
2:22:23 environmental board later um move it to
2:22:26 the next meeting because if we um if we
2:22:30 wait till the 19th and I make a motion
2:22:33 to refer it back to PPC for a meeting
2:22:35 then we're delaying that even further
2:22:36 before the PPC so just in the interest
2:22:39 of full disclosure um there's specific
2:22:41 questions that I think the PPC should
2:22:44 address um but if we wait then we're
2:22:46 just further delaying
2:22:47 and if it happens to be a quick item
2:22:50 tonight and it's not too late then we
2:22:51 can deal with it that would be my
2:22:53 concern about making a decision right
2:22:55 now to take the environmental board off
2:22:57 agenda and before I go back to the city
2:23:00 administrator I'm just going to check in
2:23:01 with uh council president hunt and see
2:23:03 if that is the direction you were headed
2:23:05 in as
2:23:06 well thank you yes I
2:23:09 was okay so City administ bobit it
2:23:12 sounds like at least two of our council
2:23:14 members tonight we're hoping to propos
2:23:18 that um the item mov back to planning
2:23:21 policy with some directed questions from
2:23:23 Council so how would you like to
2:23:26 proceed let's let's continue forward uh
2:23:29 Megan's home and so we'll don't have to
2:23:32 worry about her traveling late so uh
2:23:34 she'll continue to stand by we'll take
2:23:36 it up at the
2:23:37 end okay that sounds great then we will
2:23:40 move in to oh council president hunts I
2:23:43 thank you I just wanted to clarify I I
2:23:45 just meant I agreed with waiting until
2:23:48 until to see if we needed to take it off
2:23:50 the agenda because I think we might not
2:23:53 we might move through the other items a
2:23:55 little quicker and this one might go
2:23:56 faster we just can't really tell so I
2:23:58 think we should definitely keep it open
2:24:00 and I I also um didn't want to imply
2:24:02 that I was going to do um the same thing
2:24:05 as coun council member that's fine thank
2:24:08 you very much for the clarification the
2:24:10 next item on the agenda is
2:24:12 ab813 housing stability it is a local
2:24:15 defense against eviction the action
2:24:18 before the council this evening is to
2:24:20 consider adopting an ordinance this item
2:24:23 was last before council at the September
2:24:25 15th Council study session and I'd like
2:24:27 to invite City administrator Wally bobit
2:24:29 to introduce this item yes thank you
2:24:31 Madame mayor members of the council uh
2:24:34 this also uh has had a lot of of things
2:24:37 happening over the course of just today
2:24:40 uh and I'd like to ask Monica negrilla
2:24:42 our uh our housing uh commes coordinator
2:24:46 and Jim Haney to City attorney uh to
2:24:48 share some information uh that they
2:24:50 received earlier today uh about the
2:24:52 plans for the state of Washington uh I
2:24:54 think that that's relevant information
2:24:57 uh as we move forward so
2:24:59 [Music]
2:25:01 um oh there's
2:25:04 Monica uh Monica would you like to try
2:25:06 to get us of a stab at what you heard
2:25:09 today because I think that has an impact
2:25:11 on uh the consideration of the
2:25:13 ordinances before the
2:25:14 council that sounds good um good evening
2:25:17 everyone this is Monica Nilla and Human
2:25:20 Services so earlier tonight this
2:25:23 afternoon at around 4M um we uh
2:25:27 participated in a debrief call um
2:25:30 organized by the Association of
2:25:32 Washington cities um and um we had as
2:25:36 guest
2:25:37 speakers the um director of office of
2:25:41 legal aid and also the superior court
2:25:43 judge of Benton and Franklin County um
2:25:46 and so they provided additional
2:25:48 clarification uh regarding the eviction
2:25:51 resolution program um and so first of
2:25:56 all we learned a few details so um one
2:25:58 of the details that we learned is that
2:26:01 it's highly likely uh that the
2:26:04 moratorium um will be extended so uh
2:26:07 they expect that the moratorium will be
2:26:10 extended um in addition we also learned
2:26:12 that um the state is uh into securing
2:26:18 additional funds to extend the pilot
2:26:22 project um Beyond December 31st so at
2:26:27 this point initially the pilot project
2:26:29 was expected to um end in December
2:26:32 because they were going to use KAC
2:26:34 dollars for it um however they are uh
2:26:37 looking into securing additional funds
2:26:40 and those additional funds will also
2:26:43 cover at least based on the information
2:26:45 that we received tonight they are
2:26:47 expected to cover um all residents um
2:26:52 therefore
2:26:54 um as a note if you remember in the past
2:26:58 when we first learned about this program
2:27:01 uh they had an eligibility requirement
2:27:03 and services were going to be offered
2:27:06 for free only for those at uh who
2:27:09 qualified um and had income at or below
2:27:12 50% Ami whereas today we were told that
2:27:15 everyone would qualif
2:27:17 for those free
2:27:18 services
2:27:20 um so I think in a nutshell those were
2:27:24 the major news items that we learned Jim
2:27:26 Haney was also on the call what did I
2:27:34 Jim no I think you I think Monica got
2:27:37 the uh the major news items that we
2:27:39 learned um uh there was a frequently
2:27:43 asked questions um uh document which was
2:27:47 provided which uh gave some information
2:27:50 about the program and how it would work
2:27:53 um and it's our understanding that uh
2:27:57 that it basically uh is a meet and
2:28:01 confer type program it does offer a
2:28:05 voluntary mediation and the upshot is
2:28:08 that if landlords and tenants or if a
2:28:12 landlord and tenant go through the
2:28:14 program or if the tenant refuses to go
2:28:17 through the program and the landlord has
2:28:18 gone gone through uh the landlord will
2:28:21 receive ultimately a certificate uh from
2:28:24 a dispute resolution center that says
2:28:26 that the the process has been completed
2:28:29 and only then will the landlord be able
2:28:31 to ask a court to enter an order which
2:28:34 would allow the tenant to be evicted so
2:28:37 um that's basically what we learned and
2:28:40 there's more detail in the FAQ that we
2:28:43 passed along in uh email this afternoon
2:28:52 so Madame mayor um if there are
2:28:55 questions we're happy to answer
2:28:56 questions otherwise we'll move on to the
2:28:58 ordinances before the
2:29:00 council I believe council president hunt
2:29:02 has a question and council member D
2:29:04 Michelle has a
2:29:05 question thank you council president
2:29:08 hunt I have a question on the on the
2:29:10 program that was just described so my
2:29:12 understanding is also that the um a land
2:29:16 that is wishing to evict a tenant would
2:29:20 also um for for unpaid rent would also
2:29:23 have to give multiple notices um and so
2:29:26 I I wanted to confirm that and also
2:29:29 raise that as a difference um that's
2:29:31 different than my understanding of the
2:29:33 federal um order that also gives some
2:29:35 protections against
2:29:39 evictions um yes uh you're right that
2:29:42 there are at least two notices that have
2:29:44 to be given by the landlord under the
2:29:46 the eviction uh under the eviction
2:29:49 program that we've been talking about um
2:29:52 the first uh notice is given by the
2:29:55 landlord and it tells the tenant that
2:29:57 the tenant um um has a
2:30:02 um has a right to uh resolve the dispute
2:30:08 according to the eviction resolution
2:30:10 program uh if the tenant responds then
2:30:14 the parties go into the dispute
2:30:16 resolution program as it as it exists if
2:30:19 the tenant doesn't respond then the
2:30:21 landlord gives a second notice to the
2:30:23 tenant this time giving the same a copy
2:30:26 of that notice to the dispute resolution
2:30:28 center and then the dispute resolution
2:30:30 center follows up uh with the uh with
2:30:34 the tenant to try to convince them to
2:30:36 enter the eviction resolution program
2:30:39 that is different than the um than the
2:30:42 federal program in the federal program
2:30:44 it is the tenant who provides the notice
2:30:46 noce to the landlord and there is a form
2:30:50 which the CDC has um put out that the
2:30:54 tenant fills out the tenant sends that
2:30:56 to the landlord and if the tenant sends
2:30:59 that notice to the landlord then the
2:31:01 landlord is precluded from evicting the
2:31:07 tenant um thank you and then my other
2:31:10 question um which I also asked by email
2:31:14 is could you provide more information
2:31:16 about how this program is going to be
2:31:18 available to anyone who needs rent um
2:31:22 rental assistance I you know we heard
2:31:25 earlier in this meeting from Mr FL that
2:31:28 I think he said $180 million unpaid and
2:31:31 rent a huge percentage of people are
2:31:33 likely to fall behind on rent at this
2:31:35 time and so I'm I'm
2:31:38 fundamentally wondering how this program
2:31:40 is funded or if they're relying on a lot
2:31:43 of volunteers um and how it's likely to
2:31:49 um I can start with trying to provide an
2:31:52 answer thank you Monica that's okay yeah
2:31:56 uh thank you um so from my understanding
2:31:59 is that it's um um
2:32:02 multi-disciplinary program if if you if
2:32:05 you say if we can say so um because on
2:32:08 one end so it's going to be implemented
2:32:10 by the drc's the dispute resolutions um
2:32:13 however um the in King count
2:32:16 um the home Justice program is also
2:32:19 Associated uh they are going to be the
2:32:21 ones to um reach out to tenants and
2:32:24 provide the resources and try to connect
2:32:26 them with the rental assistance program
2:32:28 uh so there are just multi programs
2:32:31 involved um in the process uh it starts
2:32:34 with the tenant um however the tenants
2:32:37 are first they they receive the
2:32:39 resources so it starts with the tenant
2:32:41 um once the tenant reaches out then it
2:32:44 involves the Justice housing project and
2:32:46 then the drc's
2:32:49 and then it moves to mediation services
2:32:52 so there just multiple steps and
2:32:54 multiple people involved in um and
2:32:57 programs involved in it and as far as
2:33:00 capacity your second question um in my
2:33:03 communication with the dispute
2:33:05 resolution centers that's exactly what
2:33:07 they are working on now um in trying to
2:33:10 increase capacity um and trying to find
2:33:14 yes volunteer attorneys um and um other
2:33:18 mediators U to make sure that they have
2:33:20 capacity for the
2:33:22 program so just following up two
2:33:25 comments one is I'll just read from the
2:33:28 uh frequently asked questions uh
2:33:31 question who is eligible to participate
2:33:34 in the Erp the answer is any tenant who
2:33:37 is affected by the covid-19 emergency is
2:33:40 behind in rent and faces the prospect of
2:33:43 eviction when the moratoria are lifted
2:33:47 and then the question is there an income
2:33:49 eligibility requirement answer no so
2:33:53 that's what we were told today in the
2:33:55 frequently asked questions uh is that
2:33:58 there is no income eligibility
2:34:00 requirement in the current program and
2:34:03 uh otherwise um my understanding as uh
2:34:07 Monica was indicating is that there uh
2:34:11 are funds uh at least through the cares
2:34:14 act that would be appli
2:34:17 um to help fund this program through the
2:34:20 end of this year and then they're they
2:34:22 are seeking other funding to take it
2:34:24 Beyond this year also part of the
2:34:26 program is to try to place tenants in
2:34:31 um in uh contact with resources uh that
2:34:35 may assist them with paying rent so they
2:34:38 are relying on that for that portion of
2:34:40 it not not necessarily the the the
2:34:43 funding to pay the rent uh is itself uh
2:34:47 through the the uh this but the program
2:34:50 is funded through as I said through the
2:34:53 car's act funding and and then other
2:34:55 funding that they will
2:34:59 get thank you and if I might I do have
2:35:02 one more question sure goad the you you
2:35:07 mentioned that this um is a requirement
2:35:10 after the moratoria are listed my
2:35:13 understanding was it was a requirement
2:35:15 after the state moratorium so I want to
2:35:17 make sure that it isn't only um required
2:35:21 after say the cdc's which is um very
2:35:24 limited in scope in my opinion um so it
2:35:27 this this would go into play after the
2:35:29 state's the governor's moratorium would
2:35:32 be lifted
2:35:33 correct that is my understanding uh is
2:35:37 that it goes into it up until the time
2:35:41 the governor's moratorium is lifted it
2:35:44 is a completely voluntary Pro program
2:35:46 although people are encouraged to
2:35:48 participate in it after the governor's
2:35:51 moratorium is lifted then it becomes a
2:35:53 mandatory program before you can go to
2:35:57 court thank
2:36:06 you oh sorry I'm going to go to council
2:36:09 member D
2:36:11 Michelle uh thank you um I realized you
2:36:14 just had this meeting at 4:00 this
2:36:16 afternoon so these questions might be
2:36:19 premature but it's still always a worry
2:36:22 about how people in isqua are going to
2:36:25 access these
2:36:27 services are are they going to tell some
2:36:31 kind of
2:36:33 um um you know Zoom meetings or will
2:36:37 they have to travel to bellev or will
2:36:39 they have to travel to Seattle or do we
2:36:42 know anything about the logistics of how
2:36:44 the the service are going to be
2:36:49 delivered um we did not receive
2:36:51 information on that tonight um in the
2:36:54 past when we did talk with the uh
2:36:56 dispute resolution centers both in bvw
2:36:59 and the King County one they both
2:37:01 confirmed that they have moved to
2:37:03 providing uh phone and online services
2:37:06 um however um we did not receive
2:37:09 information today in particular about
2:37:10 the um eviction resolution
2:37:14 program
2:37:18 so City administrator B I believe there
2:37:21 actually is a u I'll just read again one
2:37:24 of the frequently asked questions was
2:37:26 will the process comply with covid-19
2:37:29 Public Health and Social distancing
2:37:31 requirements and the answer was yes
2:37:33 until otherwise allowed conciliation and
2:37:36 mediation efforts will be handled
2:37:39 virtually either via Zoom or telephone
2:37:42 accommodation will be made for those who
2:37:44 are high risk or otherwise do not feel
2:37:47 safe in face-to-face environments so
2:37:49 that's the only information we have
2:37:51 whether where exactly this will occur um
2:37:56 um we're not sure but it it appears that
2:37:59 they are going to try to accommodate it
2:38:00 via Zoom or other
2:38:07 medium the city administrator Bob Kitz
2:38:10 this is the mayor and I have a question
2:38:11 for you so this this is so typical of
2:38:14 this year but seems like there's always
2:38:17 more moving Parts even though we feel
2:38:19 like we might have landed on something
2:38:21 does it make sense to take the body of
2:38:23 the temperature or the temperature of
2:38:25 the body to decide whether or not they
2:38:27 want to proceed with this ordinance
2:38:29 review tonight or move it to a date
2:38:32 certain when more information can be
2:38:34 gathered about the new um program
2:38:37 information that Monica and Jim have
2:38:40 explained uh certainly that's an option
2:38:44 um we also would like to give an update
2:38:46 on our own mediation efforts uh because
2:38:50 if that would also like to be delayed
2:38:53 then that would be important to know
2:38:54 because otherwise we were preparing to
2:38:55 come back on no on October the 19th uh
2:38:58 with a contract so uh certainly if if
2:39:02 the the group would like to provide a
2:39:03 temperature that would be great okay
2:39:06 I'll start with um council president
2:39:09 hunt who worked on the ad hoc for this
2:39:11 what are your
2:39:12 thoughts um thank you this is council
2:39:16 president hunt my um my first thought
2:39:20 when I saw I read through the FAQ which
2:39:23 came to council I don't know half an
2:39:25 hour before the meeting um the FAQ about
2:39:28 the um eviction resolution program my
2:39:31 first thought was to ask if it covered
2:39:35 if we thought it covered everyone who
2:39:37 would be covered by the ordinances that
2:39:39 were proposed um in our packet and the
2:39:43 answer back was from Monica was that yes
2:39:46 she believed it would so given that but
2:39:49 also given that we haven't um we only
2:39:52 had a few minutes to process it um and
2:39:55 also given that we have um some
2:39:57 Assurance to the extent possible that
2:39:59 the governor's moratorium will also
2:40:02 continue um I think you know as as has
2:40:06 happened before I do think we have more
2:40:08 time and the situation evolved and um I
2:40:12 honestly spent a lot of time researching
2:40:14 the CDC moratorium which I thought was
2:40:17 um had a number of inadequacies and
2:40:20 holes in it that I thought um we could
2:40:22 better address in our ordinance but um I
2:40:25 I haven't yet had time to fully process
2:40:27 the eviction um resolution program
2:40:31 except that first glance it looks much
2:40:36 comprehensive uh who else is on your
2:40:39 task for us council member D Michelle
2:40:41 council member Hall about the rest of it
2:40:42 can we get your thoughts on it and maybe
2:40:45 maybe what will end up entertaining is
2:40:47 the motion to move this to a date
2:40:49 certain in the future for discussion
2:40:51 council member D
2:40:53 Michelle thank you I was just getting
2:40:56 ready to put something in the chat um uh
2:40:59 I agree I think uh we've got the time
2:41:01 now to delay this and process the
2:41:04 information that we just got late this
2:41:06 afternoon so I would support putting it
2:41:08 off as well just check with the last ad
2:41:12 hoc member uh council member Hall your
2:41:14 thoughts thanks PA this is Zach H I'd be
2:41:17 comfortable with the
2:41:18 same so I will Che back with the city
2:41:21 clerk and ask what that motion might
2:41:27 like I think uh this is uh Tisha and I
2:41:31 think that um there could be you could
2:41:34 formalize a motion to provide direction
2:41:36 to the administration to return the
2:41:39 agenda bill um you know honor before a
2:41:42 certain date um another motion that
2:41:45 Council has used is postponing I I think
2:41:48 either achieve the same uh goal and it
2:41:51 might be helpful to have some date
2:41:54 flexibility here um so an honor before
2:41:57 date might be
2:42:01 useful would you be able to craft a
2:42:04 motion and put that in the chat box and
2:42:07 we see if any of the council members
2:42:08 would like to move
2:42:10 them um yes I do have a question that
2:42:13 might help that Monica Jim likely know
2:42:16 the answer to was there any indication
2:42:18 of when the governor's moratorium would
2:42:20 be extended to or is that date
2:42:25 unknown uh there was no information that
2:42:28 we received on that um you know the
2:42:32 these the governor's proclamations kind
2:42:34 of tend to get extended at the last
2:42:36 minute and then it's however long he can
2:42:39 confir he can convince the Four Corners
2:42:42 to uh to extend for so we didn't see any
2:42:46 information as to how long that would be
2:42:48 just that it was likely that it would be
2:42:51 extended okay and the it's currently uh
2:42:56 until o is it October 15th the current
2:42:59 that's correct October
2:43:01 15 ptia if you could compose that I'll
2:43:04 go to council president hunt for a
2:43:08 question thank you um so this is a
2:43:12 question regarding the date uh as was
2:43:14 mentioned we we have on the upcoming
2:43:17 agenda a um a related item which would
2:43:20 be regarding funding for the mediation
2:43:24 services um contract and so I uh I would
2:43:28 ask the administration if there would be
2:43:30 any issue with pairing the return of
2:43:33 this with that on October 19th City
2:43:36 administrator Bob
2:43:38 quitz uh Madame mayor members of the
2:43:40 council perhaps we split the difference
2:43:43 um and move both items to November 2nd
2:43:47 um we would perhaps have a better sense
2:43:49 of things uh with the governor's
2:43:51 Proclamation and I would think a little
2:43:54 bit of extra time with the mediation
2:43:56 contract probably would be useful so uh
2:43:58 perhaps we could do both on November
2:44:02 2nd thoughts on that council president
2:44:08 hunt um thank you I guess my question to
2:44:14 um maybe question to Monica would be
2:44:17 also if that would if that additional
2:44:19 time would help with the contract
2:44:21 because I imagine the contract we would
2:44:24 want to be able to support this um
2:44:26 program the eviction resolution program
2:44:29 so if that timing is is better from that
2:44:31 perspective as
2:44:33 well uh yes this is monicaa uh timing
2:44:36 additional time would definitely help
2:44:38 with Contracting especially as the drc's
2:44:41 are trying to uh obtain final details on
2:44:44 the um their program um even um they
2:44:48 would like and express interest in
2:44:50 having additional time um so
2:44:55 yes thank you um is there anyone who's
2:44:58 prepared to make a
2:45:00 motion council president hunt thank you
2:45:03 this is council president hunt I mve to
2:45:05 direct the administration to bring
2:45:07 ab813 housing stability local defense
2:45:10 against evictions back to the council
2:45:12 for consideration at the November 2nd
2:45:15 2020 council meeting thank you is there
2:45:19 second count Deputy council president
2:45:22 Ray hi this is Chris Ray I'll second
2:45:24 that motion would thank you it's been
2:45:27 moved and seconded would anybody care to
2:45:29 speak to the
2:45:34 motion council president hunt thank you
2:45:38 um I'll just very briefly say I had a
2:45:40 lot of comments um prepared which now I
2:45:43 think we have
2:45:45 new information um and so considerably
2:45:48 less relevant but I did want to just
2:45:51 reiterate that um we have evidence and
2:45:55 data that supports so many of our
2:45:57 community members are struggling to pay
2:45:59 rent are behind on rent and um really
2:46:03 want to keep this issue um at the
2:46:07 Forefront because I think it's an
2:46:08 upcoming issue that we're we're not
2:46:11 seeing the effects of all of we're not
2:46:13 seeing in the community all the effects
2:46:14 of people being behind on the rent
2:46:16 because of this moratorium but the
2:46:17 moratorium will eventually end and so I
2:46:20 really want to prepare for that and I I
2:46:22 continue to think that that's very
2:46:24 important um so this postponement uh
2:46:27 does not in my mind lessen that it just
2:46:31 is the reality that we continue to get
2:46:33 new information and have to
2:46:36 adapt thank you for that uh council
2:46:39 member Goodman thank you um council
2:46:41 member Goodman here um so as we spend an
2:46:45 extraordinary amount of time on this uh
2:46:48 I think uh one issue that we haven't
2:46:51 addressed is what will role we want to
2:46:53 play in trying to um uh talk to the
2:46:58 legislature about what they may be able
2:47:00 to do to address this at a Statewide
2:47:02 level you know we've talked about before
2:47:05 or I've talked about before that the
2:47:07 response um by the state legislature um
2:47:10 not only here but elsewhere across the
2:47:12 country has been to adopt um
2:47:16 uh some simil similar mediation measures
2:47:20 before trustees can foreclose on housing
2:47:23 because we had a lot of folks who were
2:47:24 being kicked out of their houses they
2:47:26 were being foreclosed on when they
2:47:27 couldn't pay the U make the mortgage
2:47:29 payments after the um housing crisis in
2:47:31 two in 2008 um and so you know maybe
2:47:35 it's time for the legislature for do
2:47:37 doing something similar um requiring at
2:47:40 least requiring mediation in the
2:47:42 landlord uh residential landlord tenant
2:47:44 act in Washington um so I would be
2:47:46 interested to know um at what point
2:47:49 we're going to talk about um what
2:47:51 efforts we're going to take to try to
2:47:54 persuade the legislature that they
2:47:55 should do something because I you know I
2:47:58 we have spent a lot of energy on this um
2:48:02 but I in my mind you know this isn't
2:48:04 just an isqua problem it's not just a
2:48:06 King County problem it's a Statewide
2:48:07 problem and there should be a Statewide
2:48:12 solution thank you council member
2:48:13 Goodman
2:48:16 we will get back to you with that answer
2:48:18 uh council president
2:48:21 hunt thank you um council president hunt
2:48:24 I did want to respond I believe that and
2:48:26 I don't have it in front of me but I
2:48:27 believe that the legislative agenda is
2:48:30 going to come to Council on November 5th
2:48:32 so that could potentially you know
2:48:34 that's very near the date that is in the
2:48:37 motion um regarding this item and that
2:48:39 could be a time where we discuss the
2:48:41 role of isqua as far as talking with our
2:48:43 legislators and um having this in our
2:48:49 agenda thank you council president hunt
2:48:52 not saying any other got council member
2:48:54 Goodman thank you council member Goodman
2:48:56 here um I also believe that we have our
2:48:58 own Senator Mark mullet who um um for
2:49:01 now and um hopefully in the future is
2:49:04 also sitting on a very relevant
2:49:06 committee and so I'm sure that he would
2:49:08 be able to give us some information
2:49:09 about uh where the thoughts are so I
2:49:12 don't know that we need to wait until
2:49:13 November um I think we should be putting
2:49:15 some energy toward finding out what
2:49:17 direction the legis legislature U might
2:49:20 or might not be headed I think it's
2:49:21 valuable information so I don't think we
2:49:23 should wait until we start talking about
2:49:25 our legislative agenda but I don't
2:49:26 disagree that it's something that we
2:49:28 should um be thinking about for that
2:49:31 agenda thank you thank you both I'm
2:49:34 hoping City administrator Bob quitz made
2:49:36 a note for our lobbyist to do a little
2:49:38 bit of digging get some information
2:49:40 which is great I'm not seeing anything
2:49:43 else so the motion that has been moved
2:49:45 and seconded is to direct the
2:49:46 administration to bring
2:49:48 ab813 housing stability local defense
2:49:52 against evictions back to the council
2:49:53 for consideration at the November 2nd
2:49:56 2020 council meeting and I'll go to the
2:49:58 city clerk for a roll call
2:50:00 Vote Yes Deputy council president Ray
2:50:04 I council member Walsh I council member
2:50:09 D Michelle hi council member Goodman I
2:50:14 counc member
2:50:15 Hall hi council president hunt hi
2:50:20 council member Marts hi at 7 I zero nay
2:50:25 thank you that passes unanimously and
2:50:27 the item will be back at November 2nd so
2:50:30 I'll go to the next item under regular
2:50:32 business which is AB
2:50:35 8044 Outreach and Case Management
2:50:37 Services for individuals experience
2:50:40 homelessness pilot program and the
2:50:42 request before the council this evening
2:50:44 is to authorize this this is the first
2:50:47 time this item has come before Council
2:50:49 and I'd like to invite Human Services
2:50:51 and social sustainability coordinator
2:50:54 Monica negrilla to introduce this item
2:50:58 Monica thank you Madame mayor uh good
2:51:01 evening again um so with this agenda
2:51:05 bill tonight we are seeking Council
2:51:07 approval to authorize one an Outreach
2:51:11 and case management pilot program uh to
2:51:14 provide services to individuals who are
2:51:16 homeless in isqua beginning November 1st
2:51:18 of this year um as a small note in your
2:51:22 budget proposal for 2021 uh you will
2:51:25 find a recommendation from the Human
2:51:26 Services Commission to authorize uh the
2:51:30 program for the 2021 2022 Human Services
2:51:33 funding cycle uh however tonight's
2:51:36 program focuses only on the remaining
2:51:38 months for
2:51:40 2020 and the second item um with this
2:51:44 agenda the bill uh we are also seeking
2:51:46 Council approval to allocate money for
2:51:50 the proposed project um we are seeking
2:51:53 um Council approval to authorize
2:51:56 $25,000 of the cares act funds towards
2:51:59 this program uh These funds are from on
2:52:04 $63,000 previously allocated to be used
2:52:08 uh for expenses incurred by the city
2:52:11 during the covid-19 pandemic um and
2:52:15 these money were allocated at the 21st
2:52:18 um on September 21st at the September
2:52:21 21st council meeting I
2:52:23 apologize um so um going back to provide
2:52:26 a little bit of context and background
2:52:29 to the pilot program um earlier this
2:52:32 year in February we sought Council
2:52:35 approval to set aside approximately 10
2:52:39 12% of the 2021 2022 Human Services
2:52:43 Grant allocations uh to fund an Outreach
2:52:46 and case management pilot program for
2:52:48 individuals who are homeless uh this was
2:52:50 identified as a need due to the limited
2:52:52 Outreach Services available through the
2:52:55 existing services from the regional
2:52:57 providers um the new program would
2:53:00 exclusively serve isqua as a direct
2:53:03 resource to help support the local law
2:53:05 enforcement the First Responders the
2:53:08 school district as well as other
2:53:10 community providers such as the library
2:53:13 uh the senior center the Community
2:53:14 Center the meals programs and um local
2:53:19 businesses so uh request for proposal
2:53:22 was issued in March and the Human
2:53:24 Services Commission participated in the
2:53:26 review of the RFP and they folded the
2:53:29 recommendation with the rest of the 2021
2:53:31 2022 Human Services funding
2:53:33 recommendations to the mayor and city
2:53:37 council um another small side note here
2:53:41 uh in previous years the Human Services
2:53:43 Grant recommendation s uh were approved
2:53:46 separately by city council outside of
2:53:48 the budget process however this year um
2:53:51 we included them in the 2021 proposed
2:53:54 budget um in order to better align the
2:53:57 granting process with the budget
2:53:58 timeline and provide city council the
2:54:01 opportunity to consider the allocations
2:54:03 in the context of the entire city budget
2:54:06 um so if approved this program um is set
2:54:09 to begin January
2:54:11 1st um also a note about the sept mber
2:54:14 21st council meeting I think as I said
2:54:16 earlier at that meeting city council
2:54:19 authorized um over
2:54:22 $500,000 um to um help with economic
2:54:27 development and Human Services needs and
2:54:29 the remaining
2:54:30 $63,000 were going to cover City costs
2:54:33 so um the $25,000 that we are proposing
2:54:36 tonight would come out of those
2:54:39 $63,000 allocated for to cover City
2:54:43 costs um uh so with that background
2:54:45 coming back to the actual proposal in
2:54:47 front of you tonight um we are here um
2:54:51 because we would like to request
2:54:53 approval from city council to utilize a
2:54:56 portion of those cares act funds to
2:54:58 begin uh offering homeless uh Outreach
2:55:01 and Case Management Services as of
2:55:03 November 1st um this would provide us an
2:55:06 opportunity to begin Services before the
2:55:08 winter sets and be responsive to the
2:55:11 needs in our community um a few of the
2:55:14 details of the program include um
2:55:16 engaging proactively uh and creating
2:55:19 meaningful contacts and connections with
2:55:21 individuals experiencing homelessness uh
2:55:23 work oneon-one and engage people in
2:55:25 services and then maintain active
2:55:27 contact with them as participants um go
2:55:31 through um um the phases of community
2:55:34 reintegration process um also Pro be a
2:55:39 support and develop relationships with
2:55:41 the local service providers is noted
2:55:43 earlier track data and outcome
2:55:46 measures um the Outreach um program
2:55:50 would also um work directly with the
2:55:54 city's Police Department um and with the
2:55:57 parks and community services department
2:55:59 and act as a resource to the current
2:56:01 approach to encampment and pan
2:56:04 handling um another note that I would
2:56:07 like to make since I um earlier tonight
2:56:10 the Community Hall was mentioned as a
2:56:13 space to provide a Services um I would
2:56:16 like to highlight that we had discussed
2:56:18 space options with the food bank while
2:56:21 many of the services provided would um
2:56:24 be happening in the community um
2:56:27 visiting uh encampments and uh where um
2:56:31 homeless individuals are um we are also
2:56:35 trying to balance the need for a space
2:56:38 and the Community Hall as mentioned was
2:56:40 discussed actually currently the
2:56:41 existing case manager from the food bank
2:56:44 has an office space at the Community
2:56:46 Hall that they use for individual
2:56:47 meetings and um in addition um we also
2:56:51 discussed um this um the food bank
2:56:56 discussed um with Eide fire rescue the
2:56:59 option to expand that existing space
2:57:01 into the firehouse in one of their
2:57:03 offices um we are also working um with
2:57:07 the other providers especially the meal
2:57:10 providers um in coming up with a
2:57:12 schedule um for the space and um
2:57:16 coordinate um with with their schedule
2:57:19 as well to have access to the Community
2:57:21 Hall um for those
2:57:25 Services um additional details regarding
2:57:28 outcomes and program evaluation are
2:57:30 included in your agenda packet and we
2:57:32 can discuss them in further details if
2:57:34 needed um to summarize though we would
2:57:37 like to propose to use
2:57:40 $25,000 um of the 60 $3,000 originally
2:57:45 allocated to be used for um to cover
2:57:50 costs um for this
2:57:54 program
2:57:55 [Music]
2:57:56 and the other brief notes that I would
2:58:00 like to make perhaps I'm trying to
2:58:02 summarize and see what would be helpful
2:58:05 um but in terms of the 2021
2:58:08 funding um the cost just again just
2:58:11 trying to be very clear the cost for the
2:58:13 20 21 funding um would come through the
2:58:17 Human Services Grants process and that
2:58:19 is a program and the project that city
2:58:22 council can um further discuss during
2:58:25 the budget
2:58:26 conversations um and then just keeping
2:58:29 uh separate um the agenda bill for
2:58:32 tonight uh that basically focuses on
2:58:34 reallocating the cares act money to
2:58:37 begin this service
2:58:40 sooner
2:58:42 um and with that I I think I'm going to
2:58:44 stop here and again we can go into
2:58:46 further
2:58:47 details um regarding the outcomes or any
2:58:50 other questions that council members
2:58:53 might have thank you Monica I believe
2:58:56 the city administrator Bob Kitz would
2:58:57 like to make a comment as well yes thank
2:59:00 you Madame mayor members of the council
2:59:02 uh I'd like to maybe take a couple steps
2:59:04 backwards as to provide some additional
2:59:06 context as to why we're here um many of
2:59:09 you have noticed many of our community
2:59:10 members have noticed a a difference in
2:59:13 and the the visibility of homeless uh
2:59:16 individuals here in isqua certainly we'
2:59:18 this is not a new situation uh but we
2:59:21 have uh been seeing more people uh
2:59:24 living outside camping outside more
2:59:26 people uh at intersections listening for
2:59:29 for money uh and one of the questions
2:59:31 that has been raised by mayor Paulie and
2:59:33 many of you are what are our existing
2:59:36 programs what are our existing tools
2:59:38 that we use uh to try to provide
2:59:41 assistance so I wanted just to take a
2:59:43 brief moment between uh Monica and the
2:59:47 police chief Scott beerbom who's also on
2:59:49 the line uh to kind of talk about what
2:59:52 our current practices and policies are
2:59:55 in dealing with uh individuals who are
2:59:58 homeless individuals who find themselves
3:00:00 living outside um one of the things I
3:00:03 think you will hear is that we have good
3:00:06 practices on an initial contact but
3:00:09 really very wor follow through and I
3:00:11 think the opportunity recognizing ing
3:00:14 what has already been recommended by the
3:00:16 Human Services uh commission for the
3:00:18 year beginning January 1 that this was
3:00:20 an opportunity uh to begin filling in
3:00:23 was apparently a fairly significant Gap
3:00:25 in uh helping people here in isqua so
3:00:28 Monica a chief P bomb would you like to
3:00:31 talk a little bit about what our current
3:00:33 practices have been uh when we
3:00:36 understand that there's individuals
3:00:37 living outside either in a tent um in a
3:00:41 public structure um on private property
3:00:43 and What U Services we provide what
3:00:46 notifications we
3:00:50 provide Chief do you want to
3:00:52 start yes thank you City administrator
3:00:54 Bob Quicks and thank you city council um
3:00:59 this this opportunity provides us an
3:01:01 additional tool for our officers who are
3:01:05 um observing and contacting those in the
3:01:08 community that are in need of housing um
3:01:11 currently our current responses our
3:01:14 police officers or other city employees
3:01:15 such as some of our Parks employees uh
3:01:18 initiate contact with those that um
3:01:20 appear to be experiencing um
3:01:23 homelessness we have limited resources
3:01:26 locally um as mentioned earlier in
3:01:28 citizen comments um it would then
3:01:30 hopefully localize and bring those
3:01:33 resources that we have to bear to those
3:01:35 individuals um our police officers make
3:01:38 contact our initial response is really
3:01:40 only able to put a Band-Aid on uh what
3:01:43 the issue is we might be able to connect
3:01:45 people to mobile crisis unit which would
3:01:47 respond and provide some initial
3:01:49 Services maybe temporary housing um
3:01:52 again trying to get somebody into uh
3:01:54 access the the different Services
3:01:56 through the system uh but then not
3:01:59 necessarily able to have that follow-up
3:02:01 contact with those individuals uh so
3:02:04 this is provides an additional
3:02:05 opportunity to have more of that
3:02:07 continuous contact uh the proactive
3:02:10 Outreach um as opposed to sometimes
3:02:13 active Outreach that we currently have
3:02:15 uh due to just all balancing all calls
3:02:18 for service within within our
3:02:21 community I'll I'll stop right there for
3:02:25 now Monica would you like to add
3:02:30 anything um not at this time unless
3:02:33 there are specific if there's a specific
3:02:35 desire to go into the
3:02:38 processes we can see if this is the
3:02:41 mayor we can see if Council has any
3:02:42 additional questions questions I do know
3:02:44 that council president has received some
3:02:46 comments from the public that she would
3:02:47 like to share with Council this
3:02:49 evening thank you Madame Mary yes this
3:02:52 is council president Hunton we did
3:02:53 receive um several emails um they were
3:02:58 all uh we received three emails all in
3:03:00 support um one person wrote about
3:03:03 firsthand experience seeing an increase
3:03:06 um in the needs as a person working at
3:03:09 the squat food and clothing bank and
3:03:10 then um two other uh
3:03:14 two other emails from residents that
3:03:15 were in support of us um going forward
3:03:18 with this this evening additionally
3:03:20 there was a question which I believe
3:03:22 Monica answered regarding the Community
3:03:24 Hall space and also the needs for
3:03:26 equipment that would be associated with
3:03:29 the program um and then also I realized
3:03:32 that uh I didn't read comments on that
3:03:35 we have received on the last bill
3:03:37 because we didn't really um deliberate
3:03:39 on the bill because we had new
3:03:41 information but I did want to
3:03:42 acknowledge that we received on that
3:03:44 last bill which is the housing um uh
3:03:48 housing stability local defense against
3:03:50 eviction we did receive a number of um
3:03:53 emails from residents on that as well um
3:03:56 by my account between now and the last
3:03:59 time we spoke about that we received two
3:04:01 in support of mediation one that
3:04:03 contained data about the escalating
3:04:05 number of folks in the region that are
3:04:07 behind on rent and the racial disparity
3:04:10 as well about people affected um by the
3:04:13 economic downturn in covid and being
3:04:15 behind on rent um and then also to in
3:04:20 opposition um or one one um resident
3:04:24 wrote about if it must pass um going
3:04:26 with the mediation option and then one
3:04:28 in opposition um with concerns about the
3:04:33 uh defense against eviction being unfair
3:04:35 to one particular housing sector so I
3:04:37 wanted to make sure that I acknowledge
3:04:39 those as well for the sake of
3:04:41 transparency thank you for doing that
3:04:44 um back to um AB
3:04:48 8044 we've had comment from the public
3:04:51 that was written time for Council
3:04:53 questions so if you have any questions
3:04:55 on the information presented by Monica
3:04:57 and our news Chief and to the
3:05:00 administrator tonight please put those
3:05:01 over in the chat
3:05:07 box I give a few seconds and if the oh
3:05:11 there we go uh let's start with with
3:05:13 Deputy council president Ray thank you
3:05:16 mayor Paulie this is Chris Ray uh two
3:05:18 really uh quick questions one is um just
3:05:23 to confirm that the the money that we
3:05:25 are discussing tonight is for the
3:05:28 balance of 20120 and then we will look
3:05:31 for something in the budget
3:05:33 deliberations that would fund these this
3:05:36 position and these activities going
3:05:38 forward into 2021 is that is that
3:05:41 correct yes it's correct we're proposing
3:05:43 to use car's act money for the balance
3:05:45 of 2020 and included in the mayor's 2021
3:05:48 budget uh from the Human Services uh
3:05:51 board allocations is funds for this uh
3:05:54 for the balance of
3:05:56 2021 just because I haven't gotten
3:05:58 through the entire budget book yet you
3:06:00 know what what is the uh what's the ask
3:06:05 2021 Monica do you have the precise
3:06:07 number yes it is
3:06:10 $73,000 um for 20
3:06:16 great thank
3:06:17 you thank you Deputy council president
3:06:19 let's go to council member D
3:06:22 Michelle uh thank you mayor paully um
3:06:25 Monica um I know that isqua food and
3:06:28 clothing bank would administer this
3:06:30 program um and we've had you know really
3:06:33 excellent um case management going on
3:06:36 there already are we talking about
3:06:39 adding Personnel or is this an extension
3:06:42 of the current case manager load or um
3:06:46 if if you know the answer to that I a
3:06:48 little bit more information about how
3:06:51 that's going to be handled at um at the
3:06:53 food and clothing bank thank you uh yes
3:06:56 thank you so much for that question yes
3:06:58 we are looking at expanding their Case
3:07:00 Management Services we are currently
3:07:02 working with the food bank on a job
3:07:04 description that's being actually posted
3:07:06 I think in the next day or or two um and
3:07:10 also we are coordinating with Eide fire
3:07:12 rescue with their um mih program that's
3:07:15 also looking into an um extension of
3:07:19 services Monica could you expand on
3:07:23 mih uh yes I apologize for that it's the
3:07:27 mobile Integrated Health Team um and the
3:07:31 isaa food and clothing bank is
3:07:32 collaborating with um iside fire rescue
3:07:35 on that project uh which um focuses on
3:07:39 um working with um repeat callers
3:07:43 um who um are in need of Social Services
3:07:47 um in in Thea quum team thank you that's
3:07:51 fantastic also have a a question from
3:07:53 Council president
3:07:56 hunt thank you Miss council president
3:07:59 hunt um as I as I mentioned we did
3:08:01 receive some specific questions about
3:08:04 equipment needs and the need for um
3:08:07 phones and computers and those sorts of
3:08:09 um equipment to support a program where
3:08:12 people um might not have access to those
3:08:15 things especially now it was pointed out
3:08:17 especially now um when a lot of
3:08:20 facilities are closed or there are
3:08:22 health concerns with congregating and so
3:08:25 I wondered if you could speak to um the
3:08:28 equipment aspect of the program and how
3:08:31 that will be dealt with um especially in
3:08:33 the near term when we have a lot of um
3:08:37 health related precautions about
3:08:40 Gathering right yes thank you so much
3:08:42 for that um question um the $25,000 that
3:08:46 we are proposing tonight those dollars
3:08:49 include setup costs um um partially the
3:08:54 $25,000 would cover two months worth of
3:08:56 Staffing costs and then about 10 to ,000
3:09:00 setup cost for um exactly those items
3:09:03 that were mentioned from computer and
3:09:05 phone needs or other uh basic um needs
3:09:09 from hygiene and clothing um that would
3:09:12 be disperse to the individuals that um
3:09:15 the case managers would engage with um
3:09:19 so those are the initial costs that we
3:09:21 would hope to
3:09:23 use council president hunt does that
3:09:26 answer your
3:09:27 question it does I think the other piece
3:09:30 is concerned about the additional space
3:09:33 needs um as because um of covid but um
3:09:38 that I imagine also might need to be
3:09:40 worked out it's a concern that was
3:09:42 expressed though
3:09:44 thank you I am not seeing any additional
3:09:47 questions or comments at this time would
3:09:49 someone care to make a
3:09:54 motion council president
3:09:56 hunt thank you I move to number one
3:10:01 authorize and Outreach and Case
3:10:02 Management Services for individuals
3:10:05 experiencing homelessness pilot program
3:10:07 as presented in AB 844 beginning
3:10:10 November 1st 2020 and number two
3:10:14 allocates $225,000 of the 63
3:10:19 850 um coronavirus Aid relief and
3:10:23 economic security cares act funds
3:10:25 designated to the city by the state of
3:10:26 Washington that were previously
3:10:28 allocated for reimbursement of expenses
3:10:30 incurred by the city related to the
3:10:32 pandemic at the September 21st 2020
3:10:35 council meeting to fund the pilot
3:10:37 program for the remainder of 2020 and
3:10:40 number three direct the finance director
3:10:42 to include the the revenue and related
3:10:43 expenditures in a subse in a subsequent
3:10:46 2020 budget
3:10:48 amendment and council member Goodman yes
3:10:51 thank you council member Goodman here
3:10:53 I'd like to second that thanks great
3:10:55 it's been moved and seconded would
3:10:58 anybody like to speak to the motion
3:11:00 council president H would you like to
3:11:01 speak to the
3:11:03 motion thank you um this is council
3:11:06 president hunt I think that there's a
3:11:09 clear need for these Services um while
3:11:12 we haven't been discussing the specific
3:11:14 program I think we have discussed the
3:11:15 need for connecting um individuals
3:11:18 experiencing homelessness with the
3:11:20 services that they need um multiple
3:11:23 times and definitely we've also seen an
3:11:25 increase in um the increase in the
3:11:29 number of um residents who have reached
3:11:32 out with concerns about this in um
3:11:35 there's been an escalation in those
3:11:36 concerns expressed to us and so I
3:11:38 appreciate that this was brought forward
3:11:40 in a timely um very quick manner to um
3:11:45 expedite the program um and I am in
3:11:50 support and I um will be interested to
3:11:55 see uh in the budget deliberations about
3:11:57 the future funding for the program the
3:11:59 one concern I had about the agenda item
3:12:03 as was presented was um I believe that
3:12:06 it is it is in the agenda packet it is
3:12:10 um suggested that we could use the Human
3:12:13 Services grant funding um for this in
3:12:16 the future and while I think that we can
3:12:19 discuss that I would also consider using
3:12:21 other funding because that we have
3:12:24 escalating needs in that area and
3:12:26 potentially limited um Grant capacity as
3:12:30 it is other than that I'm very
3:12:31 supportive of the program and we're not
3:12:32 deciding on future funding this evening
3:12:35 thank you council president H uh council
3:12:37 member Goodman would you like to make a
3:12:39 comment and then if we'll be followed by
3:12:41 council member D Michelle
3:12:43 um I I'm just um um very supportive and
3:12:48 glad that this was brought forward
3:12:49 sooner so thank you awesome council
3:12:52 member D
3:12:54 Michelle um I have the same comment I
3:12:56 really uh commend the timeliness of this
3:12:59 and the respons responsiveness to the
3:13:02 members of our community uh I also want
3:13:05 to say that I'm very um heartened by the
3:13:09 way that been configured um that this uh
3:13:12 individual who whoever it may be who
3:13:15 will be doing the Outreach Services is
3:13:16 going to work with our entire community
3:13:19 and with many key players who um are
3:13:22 needing to address homelessness uh the
3:13:24 school district our police officers um
3:13:27 many other people in the community and I
3:13:30 think that this will be a wonderful
3:13:32 support uh for those individuals who
3:13:35 have been dealing with homelessness and
3:13:38 have not had the resources as uh Chief
3:13:40 beerbom said to follow through
3:13:43 and um hopefully we will begin to see
3:13:46 people moving out of homelessness uh
3:13:49 through this program I have no Illusions
3:13:51 about how easy that will be it won't be
3:13:54 easy it's a difficult process but uh at
3:13:57 least we will have someone out there
3:13:58 working on it so I too will be
3:14:00 supporting this and I I commend um
3:14:04 Monica and everybody who worked on this
3:14:06 for being so uh responsive thank you
3:14:09 thank you council member D Michelle I am
3:14:12 not not seeing any other comments in the
3:14:15 chat box uh so I will reread the motion
3:14:18 that is on the
3:14:20 table the motion is to authorize an
3:14:22 Outreach and Case Management Services
3:14:25 for individuals experiencing
3:14:26 homelessness pilot program as presented
3:14:29 in AB
3:14:30 8044 beginning November 1st 2020 and
3:14:34 allocating
3:14:35 $25,000 of the
3:14:38 63,800 Corona virus Aid relief and
3:14:41 Economic Security Security Act funds or
3:14:44 cares act funds designated to the city
3:14:47 by the state of Washington that were
3:14:49 previously allocated for reimbursement
3:14:51 of expenses incurred by the city related
3:14:54 to the pandemic at the September 21st
3:14:56 2020 council meeting to fund the pilot
3:14:59 program for the remainder of 2020 and to
3:15:02 direct the finance director to include
3:15:04 the revenue and related expenditures in
3:15:07 the subsequent 2020 budget amendment and
3:15:10 we'll get the city clerk to call the
3:15:11 Roll Call
3:15:13 vote Yes beginning with council member
3:15:17 Walsh
3:15:19 I council member D Michelle I council
3:15:23 member Goodman I council member Hall I
3:15:29 council president hunt I council member
3:15:33 Marts I Deputy council president Ray I
3:15:38 at s i zero naay thank you very much C K
3:15:42 clerk that passes
3:15:44 unanimously we do still have another
3:15:47 item on our agenda this evening and it
3:15:49 was it is AB 7941 establishing the
3:15:53 environmental board and repealing IMC
3:15:56 18.03 regarding the rivers and streams
3:15:58 board the request before Council this
3:16:01 evening is to adopt the ordinance and
3:16:03 this item was last before council at the
3:16:05 August 3rd city council meeting um
3:16:08 before we move into the presentation
3:16:10 City administrator you had suggest Ed
3:16:12 possibly moving this meeting to another
3:16:15 night we have had the council here for
3:16:19 almost 4 hours um are we planning to
3:16:23 continue with this item this
3:16:25 evening um I I think that's really a
3:16:29 question for the council this has been
3:16:30 four months of difficult work we've had
3:16:33 uh this has been the third time it's
3:16:35 been at the council we've had two
3:16:36 Community meetings we've been to
3:16:37 planning policy twice uh we feel that
3:16:40 the ordinance is ready to move forward
3:16:42 we have a presentation ready um it would
3:16:45 probably still be another half an hour
3:16:47 45 minutes of discussion uh but again of
3:16:51 all the work that we have done during
3:16:53 the covid-19 crisis this is probably the
3:16:55 single issue that we have devoted the
3:16:57 most energy and time working with the
3:16:59 community on so if the council's up to
3:17:01 it we'd like to give it a try if not
3:17:03 we'll come back on the
3:17:05 19th so I guess what I'd like to do is
3:17:08 check in with the seven council members
3:17:10 I know that um some have very specific
3:17:13 questions and council member Goodman
3:17:16 mentioned earlier even a desire to send
3:17:18 it back to planning policy so this could
3:17:21 be a lengthy conversation um what are
3:17:29 thoughts council member Goodman why
3:17:31 don't you take a crack at it
3:17:34 first thank you I think um council
3:17:37 member Gman here I um I'm happy to do
3:17:41 what everybody else wants to do um uh
3:17:46 I'm happy to um if everybody else wants
3:17:50 to listen to the presentation um uh
3:17:54 that's fine I am going to be like I said
3:17:57 earlier going to be making a motion
3:17:58 anyway um to refer it back to PBC um uh
3:18:03 with uh seven specific questions um and
3:18:08 so it's really what everybody else wants
3:18:10 to do um
3:18:13 so I will keep checking in council
3:18:15 member D
3:18:17 Michelle um I would like to hear the
3:18:19 presentation and hopefully move forward
3:18:22 on this tonight I'm looking back and
3:18:24 remembering the night when we first
3:18:26 started the discussion and we talked
3:18:28 about the urgency of getting this
3:18:32 environmental board up and running and
3:18:35 so I would like as as uh City
3:18:38 administrator Bob kit said I'd like to
3:18:40 give it a try tonight and see if we can
3:18:43 get it across the finish line thank you
3:18:46 sounds good Council uh Deputy council
3:18:48 president
3:18:49 Ray uh I if we can get this done tonight
3:18:52 I think that would be great I think that
3:18:53 council member Goodman has some genuine
3:18:55 concern I would like to before we even
3:18:57 do the presentation uh at least have a
3:18:59 discussion about what what um what the
3:19:04 motivation for pushing this back to PPC
3:19:06 would be because what I don't want to do
3:19:08 is to get down the road and then uh have
3:19:10 that discussion um later so if we could
3:19:13 do that first I think that would be good
3:19:15 and I think that'll inform where we go
3:19:17 from here so I have to check in with the
3:19:20 city clerk on that but noted and I will
3:19:23 um council member D Michelle you look
3:19:25 like you've signed up again or is that a
3:19:27 mistake okay uh Council M marks thank
3:19:31 you well of course I'm Full Throttle
3:19:33 ahead because until we get to seven
3:19:35 hours and 45 minutes we're not even
3:19:37 we're not even historical uh but I agree
3:19:40 with council member Ray that if the
3:19:42 council's we should consider sending it
3:19:45 back first because if we're going to
3:19:47 send it back anyhow we shouldn't I
3:19:49 wouldn't want to spend an hour on it and
3:19:50 then just send it
3:19:52 back be my my thoughts thank you thank
3:19:55 you and I'm not seeing anybody else wan
3:19:57 to comment so city clerk it sounds like
3:19:59 there's a could be a competing motion
3:20:02 here which is um that the council may
3:20:06 want to have a conversation about
3:20:08 whether or not they want to refer it
3:20:12 uh and provide specific questions for
3:20:15 planing policy to bring back to council
3:20:18 do we have to move into the process go
3:20:21 through the
3:20:21 presentation and um get to the motion
3:20:24 stage in order to be able to do that
3:20:26 from a process point of view um mayor
3:20:29 paully not from a process point of view
3:20:31 there I mean there might be some
3:20:33 practical benefit of of hearing some of
3:20:35 the updates but from a process
3:20:37 perspective council member Goodman or
3:20:39 anyone else could make a motion on this
3:20:41 item at this
3:20:42 point
3:20:44 okay so um council member Goodman if
3:20:47 you'd like to make a motion and uh then
3:20:51 um talk about the points that you have
3:20:53 in mind we can have a discussion and if
3:20:55 there are a majority of votes then it
3:20:57 can move back and if there is not a
3:20:59 majority of votes we will proceed with
3:21:02 presentation okay uh council member
3:21:04 Goodman here thank
3:21:05 you uh I I guess
3:21:09 one question I would have is
3:21:15 um I could make a I could make a motion
3:21:18 to refer this back to PPC at the first
3:21:23 available
3:21:25 opportunity to be return to the council
3:21:29 at the first available opportunity and I
3:21:31 would leave it up to the administration
3:21:33 and Leadership to figure out what those
3:21:35 two dates
3:21:36 are and
3:21:39 then I'll wait for a second and then I
3:21:41 think we have to talk about process a
3:21:43 little bit looking for a
3:21:46 second oh Council W council president
3:21:49 Ray this is uh Chris Ray I second that
3:21:52 motion and now I'm going to go to the
3:21:54 city of cleric and ask if it's okay not
3:21:56 to have specific dates in there um mayor
3:22:00 Polly it really is useful if not
3:22:03 required to have at least one Dave in
3:22:05 there so anyone who's following this
3:22:07 issue has some sense of when they should
3:22:09 be tuned in to hear about it next so
3:22:12 though maybe you can't anticipate the
3:22:14 PPC meeting date I think giving it a a
3:22:17 council return date would be
3:22:21 wise city administrator Bob quits do you
3:22:24 have a suggested Council return date for
3:22:25 the motion well I guess I'm more
3:22:27 concerned about PPC um they have two
3:22:30 meetings this week I know one's a joint
3:22:32 meeting with the development commission
3:22:34 uh and then another meeting they're
3:22:36 dealing with the comprehensive plan
3:22:38 amendments um my sense is that they
3:22:41 would not be able to get to this for a
3:22:43 while um I don't know if that's later in
3:22:47 November or December um the council's
3:22:50 calendar then is is fairly full um the
3:22:54 one meeting the council currently has in
3:22:56 December is December 7th um which I
3:22:59 believe would also be the comprehensive
3:23:01 plan amendments was that's normally a
3:23:03 big meeting to have so um you know it
3:23:08 could very well be uh the January 4th or
3:23:12 January uh 19th meetings of the council
3:23:17 was when it would come back and so I
3:23:19 guess if you need it a date
3:23:21 um I I just don't know when planning
3:23:24 policy would get to it they've spent
3:23:26 many many hours already uh discussing
3:23:29 this um so my guess if it's seven
3:23:32 questions it's probably could be many
3:23:34 many hours more there have been a core
3:23:36 group of members of the public who have
3:23:37 been very actively engaged on this and
3:23:40 have actively engaged at planning policy
3:23:43 um so I I just don't know how it comes
3:23:46 back before
3:23:47 January and so the date the date would
3:23:50 be the first council meeting in January
3:23:52 uh which would be January
3:23:56 4th I'm just a couple of comments this
3:23:58 is the mayor
3:24:01 um depending on what is on the
3:24:03 comprehensive Plan
3:24:06 update uh really determines whether or
3:24:09 not that December conversation is a long
3:24:11 one or not sometimes it's
3:24:13 very um quick because planning policy
3:24:17 has done on the work so I'm not really
3:24:19 sure about whether or not that one is as
3:24:21 controversial an amendment as the
3:24:24 previous years but I think there's
3:24:25 possibility to have it on December 7th
3:24:27 depending on what's on the docket so thr
3:24:30 that out there as an option certainly
3:24:32 just trying to be realistic about the
3:24:34 workload that's that's out there and
3:24:36 it's also possible that if it's not
3:24:38 ready for the seventh it can move so
3:24:39 council member Goodman would you like to
3:24:41 includeed date in your um
3:24:45 motion uh sure let's do December 7th um
3:24:49 and then my understanding I guess we
3:24:51 need a do we need the second needs to
3:24:55 agree that would be Chris the the second
3:24:58 is more than happy is just a day that'll
3:25:00 live in
3:25:01 infamy just
3:25:04 saying more than happy to
3:25:07 agree okay um so let's go to some
3:25:11 comments and I'm looking in the chat
3:25:16 box council member Goodman You' asked
3:25:19 make a
3:25:20 comments uh that was no I think that was
3:25:24 an old one I just so if there's a
3:25:27 second then don't what's the next don't
3:25:30 we need to talk about what the actual
3:25:34 proposal would
3:25:35 be I think this would be your
3:25:37 opportunity to say for the following
3:25:39 reasons I believe sure these questions
3:25:42 were not answered and just sort of put
3:25:43 them on the record great thank you um so
3:25:46 I did spend um um time
3:25:50 um uh I didn't watch I listened because
3:25:53 I go on long walks and listen it's very
3:25:55 great to have something u fun to listen
3:25:56 to on long walks and runs um so anyway I
3:25:59 listen to many many hours of the um
3:26:01 planing policy commission and um it's
3:26:04 not that I don't believe their work
3:26:05 isn't good or I don't believe that the
3:26:07 administration's work isn't good um
3:26:09 however I uh I have concerns that in the
3:26:13 words of the planning policy commission
3:26:15 and they had many many comments about
3:26:17 this the cake not being fully baked not
3:26:19 having time it's not perfect we know
3:26:21 it's not we know it's not perfect um
3:26:23 it'll have to be it'll it it it needs I
3:26:26 guess it'll have to evolve they express
3:26:28 concern that they wanted to see it back
3:26:30 they express
3:26:32 concern that they weren't able to see
3:26:35 all the Amendments and what the public
3:26:38 was talking about in written form that
3:26:40 they um some of these are my words it
3:26:43 was difficult to consider all of that um
3:26:49 uh there they re there was some
3:26:52 information that was provided the night
3:26:53 before the meeting which the public
3:26:55 commented did not give them an
3:26:56 opportunity to present comments in
3:26:58 writing that made it a little more
3:27:01 difficult for PPC um to fully consider
3:27:04 those comments um which I can understand
3:27:08 um the there were a lot of ments about
3:27:12 needing just one more meeting um they
3:27:14 completely understood that things don't
3:27:16 have to be perfect they don't want to
3:27:17 get hung up on perfect and and I agree
3:27:19 with that I understand
3:27:22 um but some of the things that were um
3:27:25 that were said to for resolution made me
3:27:29 uncomfortable personally and that is
3:27:31 that we can come back we can make
3:27:32 changes we can revise PPC might be able
3:27:35 to see it the council can revise um I've
3:27:38 lived through several of these things um
3:27:40 I will mention the central isqua plan as
3:27:42 one where we were told we can um we can
3:27:46 turn around and and revise things it
3:27:48 took us a moratorium in order to revise
3:27:50 the central isqua plan um and to use
3:27:53 council member Mars you know measure
3:27:55 twice and cut once um it is important um
3:27:58 the community is invested the the
3:28:00 community um and the council is very
3:28:02 invested in this so um and at the very
3:28:06 end of the meeting I have to say for
3:28:08 folks who didn't watch it um there was a
3:28:11 recommendation to come back to the
3:28:12 council with some recommendations in a
3:28:15 letter and it was an awkward moment and
3:28:18 I would thought maybe it wasn't even
3:28:19 going to get a motion um my sense is
3:28:22 that there are several members that were
3:28:25 uncomfortable even supporting it that's
3:28:28 editorializing however I am not in favor
3:28:32 of just sending it back to do more work
3:28:35 I am I am proposing that we send it back
3:28:38 with a specific questions for the
3:28:40 commission
3:28:41 um to answer um based on um questions
3:28:46 that I believe the community asked that
3:28:47 didn't get answered and questions that
3:28:50 um I sensed from specific questions that
3:28:54 PPC members asked that they would like
3:28:56 an opportunity to answer those questions
3:28:59 and so um I've written those down um if
3:29:02 you'd like me to read them so you can
3:29:03 get a sense of how specific they are I
3:29:05 can do that I think that would be very
3:29:08 helpful I'm sorry that this is long um
3:29:11 Ian I'm sorry that I'm talking so long
3:29:13 the um in their letter they had I think
3:29:15 it was three items under um my question
3:29:17 for them under in your letter under
3:29:19 number one um you as in PPC expressed a
3:29:24 desire that decisions should have
3:29:25 greater
3:29:26 transparency are there any other changes
3:29:29 to the proposal you recommend that would
3:29:32 increase
3:29:33 transparency um in addition to
3:29:35 recommending that the board be made
3:29:36 aware of projects without critical areas
3:29:39 and why the administration determined
3:29:41 Community review was not necessary um I
3:29:44 just wanted them to have an opportunity
3:29:46 to expand more on transparency they were
3:29:48 very concerned about transparency number
3:29:51 two of their letter would they please
3:29:53 further explain how the bo how the
3:29:55 environmental board should be given
3:29:56 flexibility to determine topics IT
3:29:59 addresses what is lacking and how can
3:30:01 that be fixed in your opinion number
3:30:04 three do you recommend that
3:30:06 Transportation projects with critical
3:30:08 areas or significant tree impacts be
3:30:10 included Ed not just the transportation
3:30:13 Improvement plan and please explain
3:30:16 um this was brought up several times and
3:30:20 the answer I heard was um we have
3:30:23 Incorporated the transportation
3:30:25 Improvement plan but not Transportation
3:30:28 projects I listened to the full almost
3:30:30 three hours and I didn't hear an answer
3:30:32 to that and I think that the PBC
3:30:34 deserves an answer to the reasoning
3:30:35 behind that's not being recommended and
3:30:37 then whether or not PPC recommends it um
3:30:40 do you we recommend adding
3:30:42 significant um tree non-critical area
3:30:46 tree projects be
3:30:48 included number five uh should Duty
3:30:51 number four in the ordinance be revised
3:30:53 to require the board to work with staff
3:30:55 to develop and maintain the check list a
3:30:58 for all public and private projects and
3:31:00 B for the purpose of gathering data for
3:31:02 the board to evaluate the performance of
3:31:04 city regulations toward environmental
3:31:06 goals and objectives number six under
3:31:09 duties and responsibilities under
3:31:11 subsection 8 would you recommend adding
3:31:14 adding city council to the end so Duty
3:31:17 so subsection 8 would read carry out
3:31:19 other duties as may be prescribed by
3:31:22 city ordinance or as directed by the
3:31:24 mayor and AD or city council I want I
3:31:28 was interested to know if they think
3:31:29 they had concerns about having the mayor
3:31:32 have the ability to have only the mayor
3:31:35 have that ability um and express concern
3:31:38 um that they have or said no concern
3:31:41 with mayor Paulie but you never know who
3:31:43 the mayor's G to be um and and seven
3:31:46 please provide a recommendation
3:31:48 regarding the topic environmental
3:31:50 security and climate security um that
3:31:53 one of the Commissioners brought up a
3:31:54 few times I never really understood
3:31:56 during that long meeting what the
3:31:58 conversation had been between that
3:32:00 commissioner um and staff so it was just
3:32:03 very confusing um and then number eight
3:32:06 just give them obviously they can
3:32:08 provide any other recommendations or
3:32:09 feedback that comes up during that
3:32:10 meeting but those were all very specific
3:32:13 concerns that I have after listening to
3:32:15 that meeting based on questions that
3:32:17 weren't answered and comments that I
3:32:19 heard from PPC that were um stated
3:32:22 several times
3:32:24 um uh so anyway that's that's my
3:32:27 reasoning and it's not to say that you
3:32:30 know anybody has done a bad job um but
3:32:33 PPC I think deserves an opportunity to
3:32:36 finish the work that they've started and
3:32:37 that's my
3:32:39 reasoning thank you you and council
3:32:41 member Ray you did second it maybe for
3:32:44 discussion or maybe because you wanted
3:32:46 to speak to it
3:32:48 next no mostly I I seconded that because
3:32:51 I think we need to have that discussion
3:32:54 um and whether whether or not warrants
3:32:56 moving back and if there are significant
3:32:59 questions still remaining to be answered
3:33:01 by by PPC um I agree with council member
3:33:04 Goodman um you know sometimes we say
3:33:07 well we can move this forward and we'll
3:33:09 figure it out as we go um but then we
3:33:11 get down the road and it it becomes
3:33:13 harder to figure it out once we get
3:33:15 there so um and I know that we've been
3:33:18 working on this a long time and this is
3:33:19 something that's really important to the
3:33:21 community um but I also want to make
3:33:22 sure we get it right because this is
3:33:24 something we've been working on for a
3:33:25 long time and is really important to the
3:33:27 community and you know we may or may not
3:33:30 have you know an urgent need to to close
3:33:33 this up right away so you know one of my
3:33:35 questions is um you know as we debate
3:33:39 this is so what's the implication of
3:33:41 pushing this out a couple well
3:33:43 essentially a month um um you know what
3:33:47 what does that do to us and so I need to
3:33:49 understand that before we decide how to
3:33:51 balance up the um benefits of getting it
3:33:56 done with um giving ourselves more time
3:33:58 to get these questions answered that
3:34:00 that PC has um has surfaced so I'm going
3:34:05 to let um City administrator Bob quitz
3:34:07 um talk about what impacts that might be
3:34:10 and then it looks like we have some more
3:34:13 um questions coming so to administrator
3:34:16 Bob quitz thank you madam mayor members
3:34:18 of the council uh the discussions on
3:34:21 this point have been fascinating um
3:34:23 there is a lot of pent up frustration
3:34:26 among members of the council and the
3:34:28 community uh that we have not uh as a
3:34:31 community uh looked at projects uh as we
3:34:35 should with an environmental Focus
3:34:37 there's a lot of pent up frustration
3:34:39 that there's lots of larger policy
3:34:41 questions uh that we have ignored as a
3:34:44 community and a great desire to have a
3:34:46 citizen group uh focus on them um we've
3:34:50 had multiple Community meetings we've
3:34:51 had multiple touches at planning policy
3:34:54 uh we've had multiple touches here at
3:34:56 the city council there's a fundamental
3:34:58 policy question that only you all can
3:35:00 decide and that is what is the scope of
3:35:03 this group there are members of the
3:35:05 community that want every single project
3:35:08 every single permit to have public
3:35:11 scrutiny uh through Community meetings
3:35:14 uh through this board through other
3:35:16 boards um we can do that that is what
3:35:19 councils do they set they take Community
3:35:22 standards and translate them into policy
3:35:24 um but there are consequences to that
3:35:27 there are consequences of time there are
3:35:29 consequences of Staffing um and the
3:35:33 previous discussions that we've had with
3:35:34 the city council uh my understanding of
3:35:37 them has been that there's been an
3:35:38 interest in looking at the larger policy
3:35:41 questions and not a review of every
3:35:43 single project uh the discussion uh at
3:35:46 planning policy uh which has been uh
3:35:50 Guided by members of the community who
3:35:52 feel very strongly that there should be
3:35:54 a community review of everything that
3:35:57 staff has not been good stewards that
3:36:00 quite honestly Title 18 has not been a
3:36:02 good Steward so the solution is to
3:36:05 provide uh Community process for every
3:36:08 single project that we have we come
3:36:10 before the council uh the last time and
3:36:13 talked about this before we went back to
3:36:15 planning policy to say that there needs
3:36:17 from staff's opinion there needs to be
3:36:19 some threshold for that uh that has been
3:36:22 rejected by some members of the
3:36:24 community has been rejected by some
3:36:26 members of planning policy um that's up
3:36:28 for the council to decide um the
3:36:31 consequences of that are Staffing in
3:36:33 time and the ability to not have any
3:36:36 time to talk about larger issues um and
3:36:39 so I think we're at a Crossroads here we
3:36:41 can go back to planning policy and ask
3:36:44 the questions um and I I think what you
3:36:46 will hear is some members of planning
3:36:48 policy who feel based on community
3:36:51 comment uh that everything should be
3:36:53 looked at everything should be reviewed
3:36:56 um and if that's the case then that's
3:36:58 great and we will have to look at what
3:37:00 kind of Staffing we will have to work
3:37:02 with uh homeowners we will have to work
3:37:04 with land developers and say that those
3:37:07 processes are going to be very long
3:37:09 finally my concern is who going to serve
3:37:11 on this board you know how many nights a
3:37:13 month can we ask people to look at
3:37:15 specific projects and then turn around
3:37:17 and say there's a great desire for a
3:37:19 climate action plan in this community
3:37:21 what are we doing there there's a great
3:37:22 desire to look at uh how we use our
3:37:24 natural resources there's a great desire
3:37:26 to do a whole variety of things but here
3:37:29 are 22 projects that you need to sit and
3:37:31 review either directly or review someone
3:37:34 else's review and so Madame mayor
3:37:36 members of the council it's a real
3:37:38 fundamental question um and I think if
3:37:41 there are members of the council this
3:37:42 evening who can voice do you want uh
3:37:45 this group to you know have the detailed
3:37:48 review uh that some would in the
3:37:50 community would like then that's great
3:37:51 and I think planning policy can can help
3:37:53 flush that out if there are you instead
3:37:56 feeling what you have said on two
3:37:58 separate occasions as a group that
3:37:59 you're looking for this to be a larger
3:38:01 policy group then I don't know sending
3:38:03 this back to planning policy uh furthers
3:38:06 that uh goal so so Madame mayor again we
3:38:09 stand by the is so important to get
3:38:11 right but it's also so important to do
3:38:13 right and to have proper Staffing and
3:38:16 have members of the community that are
3:38:17 going to be prepared uh to spend a lot
3:38:20 of time on these issues um that's
3:38:22 another component and I as your city
3:38:24 administrator I'm concerned uh that this
3:38:27 be all encompassing but might fail
3:38:30 because we just don't have enough
3:38:31 resources both volunteer and staff to
3:38:33 find it uh thank you City administrator
3:38:36 Bob quits we do have a few more comments
3:38:38 and questions but I just wanted to add a
3:38:39 bit of information
3:38:41 to the city council's consideration
3:38:43 tonight for some recruiting that I've
3:38:45 been doing for other boards and
3:38:48 commissions um development commission
3:38:50 has always been a project by project
3:38:53 review group not dealing with policy but
3:38:55 dealing with the my headset might die
3:38:59 dealing with the um application of the
3:39:01 code to an individual parcel um they
3:39:05 have had environmental resources on it
3:39:07 before and I am currently looking at
3:39:09 interview I believe we have now six
3:39:12 candidates um some with strong
3:39:15 environmental experience it isn't that
3:39:17 there is no environmental review and
3:39:19 development commission does not review
3:39:21 all projects but their focus is so
3:39:23 different than planning policy which
3:39:24 stays at the policy level to try and
3:39:27 create an environmental commission that
3:39:29 is policy and project attracts two
3:39:31 different kinds of people those that are
3:39:33 interested in the details of the project
3:39:35 and those that want to form climate
3:39:37 action policy um I think you've got to
3:39:40 kind kind of pick a lane and decide what
3:39:42 you want to do I'm hoping that this um
3:39:44 interim um recruitment that I'm doing
3:39:48 add some some environmental muscle to
3:39:50 the development commission but there is
3:39:52 already some there so I I do think it's
3:39:55 important I don't have a opinion on
3:39:56 whether it goes back or not but I do
3:39:58 think that this isn't going to be
3:40:00 everything to everybody um so anyway
3:40:04 just some thoughts I didn't know if you
3:40:05 all knew that I was doing that
3:40:06 recruiting or not um next one up for
3:40:09 comment is council member
3:40:12 Goodman thank you council member Goodman
3:40:14 here I just wanted to follow up a little
3:40:15 bit um so I don't disagree with anything
3:40:17 that's said um from either of you um
3:40:20 this isn't about
3:40:22 um my this isn't about me wanting to
3:40:26 elicit some certain answer this is about
3:40:29 allowing PPC to finish their job um all
3:40:32 the things that um uh mayor Paulie just
3:40:36 said and and I didn't get the those
3:40:39 those answers the answer I heard to the
3:40:41 question about Transportation projects
3:40:43 was basically and I'm summarizing and I
3:40:46 mean no disrespect at all um to um
3:40:49 anybody is basically it was yes we heard
3:40:52 and um instead we did we included the
3:40:54 tip I didn't hear any reasoning I didn't
3:40:57 hear PPC get an opportunity to to talk
3:40:59 about that um and I'm not saying that I
3:41:02 agree that every single project needs to
3:41:04 be reviewed I didn't hear any conver
3:41:06 talks about um this is why we don't this
3:41:09 is why we don't recommend that all the
3:41:11 transportation projects or the
3:41:13 significant tree projects get um get
3:41:15 reviewed by the environmental board
3:41:17 those that conversation didn't happen at
3:41:19 least not in the meeting that I listened
3:41:20 to that's my concern I'm not trying to
3:41:23 get elicit certain answers these are the
3:41:25 concerns that I think still have to be
3:41:27 addressed by PPC based on what they said
3:41:30 what I heard um lack of information
3:41:33 again no disrespect um that's why we
3:41:36 have a a policy commission to make
3:41:38 recommendations to us
3:41:40 so if the council tonight is not
3:41:43 interested in referring this back um
3:41:47 then I think we uh we're going to have
3:41:50 to get into significant details um and
3:41:53 because there're going to be a lot of
3:41:54 questions and we're going to need to
3:41:56 refer this to another meeting because
3:41:58 there are a lot of questions right and
3:42:01 we've heard your question so far it may
3:42:03 be that council members want to add to
3:42:05 the list that you've read as well thank
3:42:07 you council member D
3:42:08 Michelle
3:42:14 you're on
3:42:18 mute okay that's that's a dollar for me
3:42:23 right
3:42:25 um I don't know that we should be in the
3:42:28 business of finishing the ppc's work for
3:42:31 them we have a letter from the planning
3:42:34 policy commission that was signed by the
3:42:36 chair was dated September 28th and it
3:42:38 was included in the packet and it has
3:42:42 three recommendations that they sent to
3:42:44 us and that to me is the official
3:42:48 statement that came out of that meeting
3:42:51 and it has been it's duly noted and uh
3:42:54 we certainly can uh discuss tonight
3:42:57 whether we want to include their
3:43:00 recommendations uh as amendments to the
3:43:03 uh to the ordinance but um I I you know
3:43:08 when when we get a signed letter from
3:43:10 one of our commissions that to me is
3:43:12 their official statement about what they
3:43:16 were willing to recommend and the fact
3:43:18 that there were questions that were
3:43:20 unanswered uh that night uh maybe they
3:43:23 were unanswered because no one felt
3:43:26 compelled to ask anything further I I
3:43:29 just don't think that um that we as a
3:43:33 council should be going back to a
3:43:36 planning policy commission and saying uh
3:43:39 we you didn't finish your work uh they
3:43:41 did finish their work they sent us a
3:43:42 letter it's in the packet um and that
3:43:45 should stand as their official statement
3:43:47 that they all agreed to um as as a
3:43:50 commission so um I uh I think that we
3:43:55 should take that letter and discuss that
3:43:58 if we want to if the council wants to um
3:44:02 but I um and I I will also say that I
3:44:06 take all these uh comments to heart that
3:44:08 we need to to decide you know what is
3:44:11 the exact nature of this uh new
3:44:14 environmental board um uh again going
3:44:18 back to where we started there was a lot
3:44:20 of discussion about the urgency of
3:44:23 climate change we see that all around us
3:44:26 we saw that with the wildfires in
3:44:28 California and we are arguing here over
3:44:32 not arguing I am sorry I apologize for
3:44:34 that word we are
3:44:35 discussing um you know the the intent of
3:44:40 uh policy Planning Commission when I
3:44:42 think we should be focused on the
3:44:44 outcome that we want from this
3:44:45 environmental board thank you thank you
3:44:49 council member
3:44:51 Walsh thank you um my main concern with
3:44:55 this is whether or not the environmental
3:44:58 board would be able to be available for
3:45:02 um Title 18 and the questions that we
3:45:05 have for them that will come up fairly
3:45:08 soon and so I'm wondering about the
3:45:11 timeline of that if we send this back to
3:45:15 PBC and then it has to come back to us
3:45:17 and then we vote on it and then we have
3:45:19 to staff out that board or recruit for
3:45:23 that board what timeline we're looking
3:45:30 at question mark if I may Madam mayor uh
3:45:34 Megan Curtis Murphy who hasn't had an
3:45:36 opportunity to say anything yet this
3:45:37 evening so we'll say good evening Megan
3:45:40 um I know that you've been looking at
3:45:41 the time frames for recruiting can you
3:45:43 talk about what your thoughts were at
3:45:46 point sure um in talking with the clerks
3:45:50 good evening this is Megan Curtis Murphy
3:45:52 um in talking with the clerk's
3:45:54 Department um we wanted to do about a
3:45:57 three-week recruitment um from previous
3:46:00 experiences um two weeks didn't quite
3:46:01 seem to be enough they've often bit
3:46:03 extended um we are going to be
3:46:05 recruiting for 12 members um so we want
3:46:08 to provide adequate time um so about 3
3:46:11 weeks recruitment um we'd be able to do
3:46:14 interviews soon after that um with a
3:46:17 original or with thinking about timeline
3:46:20 um we are hoping to start recruitment as
3:46:22 soon as this Friday have that open for
3:46:24 three weeks try to do um interviews
3:46:27 beginning of November and then bring it
3:46:29 back um at a later meeting in November
3:46:31 to appoint the members and get a first
3:46:34 meeting at by the end of this year um
3:46:37 was our original goal if we move forward
3:46:39 on this evening um if not I think we
3:46:42 would just have to bump that back um by
3:46:44 however many weeks
3:46:46 approximately until we're able to um
3:46:48 pass the
3:46:52 ordinance council member Walsh did you
3:46:55 have a followup question well yeah I was
3:46:57 going to try and date that out in my
3:47:00 head if um what we were saying go back
3:47:06 PPC was it and back here by December 7th
3:47:13 correct so we would we would try I think
3:47:16 to start the recruitment then shortly
3:47:18 after December 7th three weeks takes us
3:47:21 uh to just about Christmas so I think we
3:47:24 would try to have those that
3:47:25 applications do before Christmas then uh
3:47:28 we would do interviews right after the
3:47:29 first of the year uh then be able to get
3:47:32 to the council hopefully by the end of
3:47:33 January uh with appointments hopefully
3:47:36 than having a first meeting sometime in
3:47:38 February
3:47:40 okay so then to
3:47:42 clarify if we were to move forward with
3:47:45 the proposal tonight we would
3:47:49 potentially have a first meeting in
3:47:51 December if we were to go back to PBC
3:47:55 the earliest we would be looking at is
3:47:59 probably February for first meeting and
3:48:02 that's assuming there isn't any more
3:48:04 back and forth is that correct yes I
3:48:07 think that's reasonable thank you
3:48:12 council member
3:48:15 Hall thanks mayor Paulie this is Zach
3:48:17 Hall um I have a comment and then also a
3:48:20 quick question if that's appropriate but
3:48:23 um I just wanted to say on camera as one
3:48:25 of the uh council members um who in
3:48:29 previous meetings has said on camera
3:48:31 that I support it being more of a policy
3:48:34 function because if we can't you know
3:48:36 really focus a lot of time on Title 18
3:48:38 and a climate change then that's the
3:48:40 ball game in in my head I'm thinking
3:48:42 long term um that being said I think
3:48:45 that these questions are appropriate and
3:48:47 I'm really interested in hearing the
3:48:50 answers to it and how it may influence
3:48:52 my thinking so I'm G to support this oh
3:48:56 in my question um can we not um conduct
3:49:01 interviews before we pass an ordinance
3:49:05 or is that is there some legal something
3:49:10 well I think what if I may council
3:49:12 member Hall members of the council one
3:49:13 of the challenges we don't know what
3:49:14 we're recruiting for yet I mean I think
3:49:17 as we have talked to community members
3:49:19 that are some community members very
3:49:20 excited about doing policy there are
3:49:22 some community members very excited
3:49:24 about looking at site plans and asking
3:49:26 questions about you know specific issues
3:49:29 with Parcels but those are not
3:49:31 necessarily the same people and so I
3:49:34 think we need first to know what this
3:49:36 group is going to be asked to do uh and
3:49:39 then once we know then we'll be able to
3:49:42 recruit okay thank
3:49:45 you and council president
3:49:49 hunt thank you um this is council
3:49:52 president hunt I um I was just
3:49:56 revisiting the letter that we received
3:49:58 from the um chair of the PPC and um on
3:50:02 behalf of the PPC and they do ask that
3:50:06 Council consider three things um
3:50:10 including that decisions in The Proposal
3:50:13 would have greater transparency that the
3:50:15 board be given flexibility to decide
3:50:17 what topics IT addresses and then also
3:50:20 um a six-month review cycle but I think
3:50:23 that they they recommended that we
3:50:25 consider those things and then they pass
3:50:28 the ball to us as elected officials to
3:50:31 consider their those concerns and make a
3:50:34 decision um I am concerned at this point
3:50:38 based on some conversations that I've
3:50:40 had I'm concerned
3:50:42 about um people that have been following
3:50:45 this process community members who are
3:50:47 really concerned about the environment
3:50:49 really interested in the environment
3:50:50 interested in serving on a board um
3:50:52 their enthusiasm in some conversations
3:50:55 um their enthusiasm has waned over the
3:50:58 course of this process and and how long
3:51:00 it has um taken and so I would be very
3:51:04 concerned if we kicked this back with
3:51:06 questions um also questioning
3:51:09 the PPC landed as a I I think that they
3:51:14 asked us to consider these things and it
3:51:16 was clear so I'm in favor of considering
3:51:19 those things and moving forward um I
3:51:22 also think that we have received a lot
3:51:24 of community input and I want to um I
3:51:28 want to act with a sense of urgency on
3:51:31 this because I do think that it is very
3:51:33 important to the community and um I want
3:51:37 to proceed
3:51:43 council member MZ thank you Madame mayor
3:51:46 uh I'd like to proceed forward this
3:51:47 evening I think that uh this isn't the
3:51:52 Strategic plan this is something that uh
3:51:55 we can make decisions on and then make
3:51:58 changes down the road uh we have that
3:52:00 ability um this is a new body we won't
3:52:03 get it perfectly right tonight uh or in
3:52:06 the next meeting we will put something
3:52:09 place and we'll see how it works and we
3:52:10 will make uh revisions based on that so
3:52:14 I would like to move forward this
3:52:15 evening thank you council president
3:52:20 hunt thank you I did also um want to add
3:52:24 one more comment which is I had a
3:52:26 question there was um some emailed
3:52:28 comments regarding projects with
3:52:31 significant trees and those being
3:52:33 considered also um significant impacts
3:52:36 to trees and so I had a question um that
3:52:39 that I asked of Megan um and I believe
3:52:42 it got shared with the development
3:52:43 services department and others but the
3:52:46 the bottom line was that we don't
3:52:47 actually have code to support what is
3:52:50 significant trees and so um that would
3:52:53 be if that were to be there it would
3:52:55 probably be a need to be a change in
3:52:57 code and I think this speaks to we have
3:52:59 broader policy questions that we need to
3:53:01 address within tile 18 um and within our
3:53:05 code that that need to be looked at to
3:53:08 address some of these things and if we
3:53:10 if we're um questioning um specific
3:53:14 wording I think that we we will have
3:53:16 another opportunity to look at some of
3:53:18 these policy level impacts with the
3:53:20 title 18 work and we should absolutely
3:53:22 do that but I also think we don't we we
3:53:24 have some higher level policy questions
3:53:26 that we need to work through before we
3:53:28 can start looking even if we wanted to
3:53:31 get into the project level and as I've
3:53:34 said before I think that the higher
3:53:36 level um is where we need to be at this
3:53:38 point with the this board and looking at
3:53:40 higher level policies that will have a
3:53:42 umbrella over many
3:53:46 projects thank you um council member
3:53:48 Goodman I wanted to come back to you to
3:53:50 see if you had any final comments or any
3:53:53 suggestions about resolution to getting
3:53:57 answers to those questions um without
3:54:00 sending it back to planning policy but
3:54:02 are those a series of questions that you
3:54:04 would want staff to answer uh either
3:54:07 this evening or an addition information
3:54:09 for the council which could also loop
3:54:11 back to PR um planning policy at some
3:54:13 point as well could that address your
3:54:17 concern
3:54:18 um uh thank you council member Goodman
3:54:21 here um
3:54:25 the I think it would make for a long
3:54:28 meeting tonight um it's 11 o'clock um
3:54:32 and although we have one council member
3:54:34 who would like to potentially work seven
3:54:37 and a half hours I am not one of them um
3:54:40 and I would strongly oppose trying to
3:54:42 dig in and revise the code um the C
3:54:45 those the questions I asked um the
3:54:48 answers were not presented so it's not
3:54:50 that I'm trying to get a different
3:54:52 answer the answers were not presented um
3:54:55 and so um and I'm I'm personally not
3:54:59 interested in trying to get all of those
3:55:01 questions answered into Revise Code and
3:55:03 try to understand something that's going
3:55:05 to be a brand new board um and I guess
3:55:08 the comment I would make is I'm
3:55:11 not questioning their work I am question
3:55:15 I am um I do not believe that they were
3:55:18 given an opportunity to finish their
3:55:20 work they were very uncomfortable making
3:55:24 recommendation um I would encourage you
3:55:25 to watch it um so I am I am not happy
3:55:29 with personally not happy with how um
3:55:35 uh um the work was con included because
3:55:39 they had a lot of questions um so uh I
3:55:44 think their final recommendation was
3:55:47 based on what they had to work with I do
3:55:49 not believe that it is the that they
3:55:53 that um they would have done the same
3:55:56 thing had they had other had they had an
3:55:59 opportunity to to finish their
3:56:01 deliberations that's my concern um we're
3:56:04 headed into the holidays there have also
3:56:07 been um comments about heading into the
3:56:09 holidays and whe whether we can really
3:56:11 get this board up and going with the
3:56:12 holidays before us anyway um so anyway
3:56:16 um if it is the will if we take a vote
3:56:18 and it is the will of the council to not
3:56:20 refer it back um then I think we need to
3:56:22 bring it back at a different meeting
3:56:23 because there really is quite a hefty
3:56:25 amount to talk about so let's do this in
3:56:28 two parts then this is the mayor um
3:56:31 let's vote on the motion on the floor
3:56:33 which is the referral back to planning
3:56:35 policy and then we'll have another
3:56:37 conversation about what the next steps
3:56:39 are because it is 11:00 and I can tell
3:56:42 that there is a lot of interest in this
3:56:44 item a lot so um with no F oh um
3:56:49 president hunt did I get to you for your
3:56:52 comment okay um the motion on the floor
3:56:55 is to refer AB 7941 to the planning
3:56:58 policy commission to a date to be
3:57:00 determined to be returned to the city
3:57:02 council honor before December 7th
3:57:05 2020 um we'll do a roll call vote
3:57:09 CL first we have council member D
3:57:12 Michelle
3:57:14 no council member
3:57:16 Goodman
3:57:18 yes council member
3:57:23 I council president
3:57:28 nay council member
3:57:30 Marts
3:57:32 nay Council sorry Deputy council
3:57:35 president Ray
3:57:39 council member Walsh
3:57:42 nay that's three eyes for
3:57:45 Nays so the motion does not go forward
3:57:49 um I think the point that council member
3:57:51 Goodman made up about what could be
3:57:54 reasonably accomplished tonight is a
3:57:56 good one um City administrator Bob ktz
3:57:59 if the council chose
3:58:02 to um move this to another meeting what
3:58:07 would we be looking at on the planning
3:58:12 calendar um M may members of the council
3:58:15 I think we could put this on for your
3:58:17 next meeting on the 19th uh Miss gezer
3:58:20 is that uh I don't have the planning
3:58:22 calendar up uh oh here it is
3:58:27 um right now we have uh uh lodging tax
3:58:31 uh committee items as the two items of
3:58:34 regular business plus uh Community
3:58:36 Planning and Development fees
3:58:39 so those are the the three regular
3:58:42 business items and then a visit isqua
3:58:44 update as an informational item um so it
3:58:46 already is a uh already is somewhat a
3:58:51 busy meeting
3:58:53 um the next regular meeting after that
3:58:55 is November
3:58:58 2nd um and there are um budget issues on
3:59:02 there as well and the title
3:59:04 18 update so I'm looking for direction
3:59:08 from Council it's
3:59:09 11:00 uh we have much to do on this one
3:59:14 um if someone would care to make a
3:59:17 motion about continuing this item to
3:59:19 October 19th it would allow us to talk
3:59:21 about next
3:59:24 steps council member
3:59:27 Goodman thank you I would mo mo make a
3:59:29 motion to postpone AB 7941 to the
3:59:32 October 19th 2020 council meeting and is
3:59:35 there a
3:59:37 second
3:59:39 council president hunt
3:59:41 second thank you and uh right before
3:59:45 that we had a
3:59:48 question from council member Hall I
3:59:53 believe yeah May Paulie uh this is
3:59:56 council member Hall I was just goingon
3:59:58 to ask a logistical question if it might
4:00:00 be possible for us to just schedule a
4:00:02 special city council meeting to address
4:00:05 this city administrator Bitz
4:00:10 [Applause]
4:00:13 um that is harder to do right now only
4:00:17 because of the budget calendar um okay
4:00:20 so you have a meeting uh tomorrow night
4:00:23 um you have u a study session on the
4:00:29 13th um the week of the 19th um there's
4:00:33 only one meeting uh the week of the 27th
4:00:36 there's only one meeting uh if you
4:00:38 wanted to have uh a meeting on the
4:00:43 26th on the
4:00:47 Monday uh that might work that's a week
4:00:53 later so right now we're considering the
4:00:55 19th anybody want to weigh in on
4:00:58 thoughts of moving it further out and
4:01:00 giving it its own night like Monday the
4:01:03 26 any
4:01:07 thoughts
4:01:11 Madame mayor sorry this is council
4:01:13 member Mars uh I would like to consider
4:01:18 26th um I think that it's uh you know uh
4:01:24 we should this is an important topic
4:01:26 clearly people feel very strongly about
4:01:28 it and I'd like to be fresh and uh I I
4:01:31 would be fine with the 26 I don't know
4:01:33 how other people feel thank you any
4:01:36 thank you any other comments
4:01:41 I think you can just raise your hand
4:01:42 because we're not doing anything
4:01:44 complicated who else uh Barb go ahead
4:01:47 council member D Michelle followed by
4:01:49 council president
4:01:50 hunt yeah the 26 would be fine with
4:01:53 me thank you council president
4:01:57 hunt um thank you that date would also
4:02:00 be fine with me and it does seem that we
4:02:02 keep having um new items pop up and so
4:02:07 um that would likely be a full agenda on
4:02:09 the 19th the way things are
4:02:11 going thank you any other um council
4:02:16 members want oh council member Goodman I
4:02:17 have you up thank you council member
4:02:19 Goodman here do we need to uh make an
4:02:22 amendment to change it to um I uh so
4:02:24 moved I will change the meeting date in
4:02:28 the motion to October 26th and then that
4:02:31 probably needs a second to amend it
4:02:33 Council I agree I agree thank you very
4:02:35 much so the motion sorry I'm sorry mayor
4:02:39 paully uh we also will need a a start
4:02:41 time for that special
4:02:44 meeting uh it's a Monday but not a
4:02:47 regular Monday Council night 7 PM start
4:02:50 is probably fine 11: PM 11 pm we're
4:02:55 starting at
4:02:56 11 take a nap everybody take a nap so
4:02:59 you ready um does that need to be in the
4:03:01 motion
4:03:03 Tisha um maybe we can just ask our any
4:03:07 council member
4:03:08 is there an objection to amending the
4:03:11 motion to postpone to 700 p.m. October
4:03:15 26 for a special meeting not seeing any
4:03:18 objections okay and then there will need
4:03:21 to be a you're doing it we'll need to
4:03:24 take a vote Yes so the motion before you
4:03:27 is to postpone AB
4:03:29 7941 to the October 26th meeting to to
4:03:34 an October 26th meeting at 700 p.m. is
4:03:37 there any further
4:03:42 discussion I I
4:03:45 have council member Goodman followed by
4:03:47 council member
4:03:48 hunt no I do not I have council
4:03:51 president hunt thank you I just wanted
4:03:54 to acknowledge that we um have received
4:03:56 the number of email comments but since
4:03:57 we're continuing this to the other
4:03:59 meeting I think it would make sense to
4:04:01 wrap them all up and I will um report
4:04:04 them out uh as summaries at the next
4:04:07 meeting if that sense because again we
4:04:08 aren't voting on the main motion this
4:04:10 evening I think that does make sense
4:04:13 thank
4:04:15 you seeing no other comments I'll have
4:04:18 the city clerk do a roll call vote on
4:04:23 motion starting with council member
4:04:25 Goodman I council member Hall I council
4:04:31 president hunt I council member Marts I
4:04:37 Deputy Council president Ray I council
4:04:40 member Walsh
4:04:43 I council member D Michelle I that's
4:04:47 seven I zero nay thank you that passes
4:04:50 unanimously to move this item to the
4:04:52 October 26th meeting at 7M I did have a
4:04:56 question for council member Goodman um
4:04:59 in the series of questions that you had
4:05:01 listed that you felt were unanswered is
4:05:03 your expectation that at the October
4:05:05 26th meeting there will be some
4:05:08 information from staff that answers
4:05:10 those questions uh thank you council
4:05:12 member Goodman here uh I was going to um
4:05:15 say that I will be sending those
4:05:17 questions emailing those questions um to
4:05:21 um to Administration um and uh and then
4:05:26 of course um any other council members
4:05:29 can send in questions that they might
4:05:31 have and and I was expecting that the
4:05:34 answers would be in the um packet that
4:05:37 we get before before that meeting not
4:05:38 answered at the meeting please yeah
4:05:40 thank you thank you thank you for that
4:05:44 let me find my little script getting a
4:05:47 little Punchy it's getting a little
4:05:49 late okay well Megan I want to thank you
4:05:52 for staying with us tonight and we'll
4:05:54 see you again on the
4:05:57 26 um next up is good of the order did
4:06:00 anybody bring anything for good of the
4:06:02 order this evening seeing
4:06:05 some head nods now so I will talk about
4:06:09 a few of the upcoming Council meetings
4:06:11 uh the following meetings will be held
4:06:13 virtually we'll have a city council
4:06:14 study session tomorrow October 6 at 6:30
4:06:17 pm the topic will be the 2021 proposed
4:06:20 budget overview a city council study
4:06:23 session on Tuesday October 13th at 6:30
4:06:26 p.m. potential agenda items include the
4:06:29 affordable housing update the title 18
4:06:32 land use code ad hoc committee update as
4:06:35 city council regular meeting on Monday o
4:06:37 oober 19th potential agenda items
4:06:40 include the visit isqua annual update
4:06:43 climate convening recommendations
4:06:46 lodging tax advisory committee funding
4:06:48 requests Community Planning and
4:06:51 Development fees and public hearings on
4:06:54 property tax levy and revenue sources
4:06:56 and the preliminary 2021 budget and as
4:07:00 discussed this evening a special council
4:07:03 meeting on Monday the 26th at 6:30 p.m.
4:07:06 at 700 p.m.
4:07:08 to talk about the envir formation of the
4:07:11 environmental um
4:07:13 board um the next item on the agenda
4:07:16 this evening is executive session which
4:07:19 was held earlier this evening and so
4:07:22 therefore there being no additional
4:07:24 business this meeting is adjourned at
4:07:26 11:10 p.m. good night

Attendance

Council / Members (7)
Barbara de Michele
Stacy Goodman
Zach Hall
Victoria Hunt
Tola Marts
Chris Reh
Lindsey Walsh

Motions and votes (8)

Adopt Ordinance No. 2922, imposing an additional sales and use tax of one-tenth of one percent for housing and related services as authorized by RCW 82.14.530; adding a new Section 3.04.026 to the Issaquah Municipal Code; providing for severability and establishing an effective date.
Moved by HALL · seconded by MARTS
Amend the ordinance to add: "But repealing this sales and use tax if (a) a Memorandum of Understanding covering at least $2m of Issaquah Transit Oriented Development Project tenant improvements is signed with King County or (b) if King County does not enact a county-wide one-tenth of one percent hou…
Moved by HALL · seconded by MARTS
Carried 5-2
In favor: Stacy Goodman, Zach Hall, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh
Opposed: de Michele, Walsh
Direct the Administration to bring AB 8013, Housing Stability: Local Defense Against Evictions back to the Council for consideration at the Nov. 2, 2020 Council meeting. . c)
Moved by HUNT · seconded by REH
Carried 7-0
In favor: Barbara de Michele, Stacy Goodman, Zach Hall, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh
1) Authorize an Outreach and Case Management Services for Individuals Experiencing Homelessness pilot program as presented in AB 8044 beginning Nov. 1, 2020; and 2) Allocate $25,000 of the $63,850 Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act funds designated to the City by the State of…
Moved by HUNT · seconded by GOODMAN
Carried 7-0
In favor: Barbara de Michele, Stacy Goodman, Zach Hall, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh
Refer AB 7941 to the Planning Policy Commission to a date to be determined to be returned to the City Council on or before Dec. 7, 2020. (Proponents: Goodman, Hall, Reh).
Moved by GOODMAN · seconded by REH
Failed 3-4
In favor: Goodman, Hall, Reh
Opposed: Barbara de Michele, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Lindsey Walsh
Postpone AB 7941 to the Oct. 19, 2020 Council meeting.
Moved by GOODMAN · seconded by HUNT
Main motion as amended: Amend the ordinance to add: "But repealing this sales and use tax if (a) a Memorandum of Understanding covering at least $2m of Issaquah Transit Oriented Development Project tenant improvements is signed with King County or (b) if King County does not enact a county-wide one-…
Moved by (main motion as amended) · seconded by
Carried 4-3
In favor: Barbara de Michele, Zach Hall, Tola Marts, Lindsey Walsh
Opposed: Goodman, Hunt, Reh
Main motion as amended: Amend the motion to postpone AB 7941 to a Special [virtual] Council meeting on Oct. 26 at 7:00 PM. THERE BEING NO OBJECTION, THE AMENDMENT WAS ADOPTED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT. MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED CARRIED, 7-0.
Moved by (main motion as amended) · seconded by
Carried 7-0
In favor: Barbara de Michele, Stacy Goodman, Zach Hall, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh