City Council Regular Meeting · Monday, October 21, 2019 · City Council Digest

6. CONSENT CALENDAR

Minutes: City Council Regular Meeting, Oct. 7, 2019

Carried 7-0

Approve · packet pp.131–134

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Staff report:

CONSENT CALENDAR b) 10-07-19 City Council Regular Meeting Minutes Page (0000)

Roll call:

Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE

In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein

Minutes: Council Budget Study Session, Oct. 7, 2019

Carried 7-0

Approve · packet pp.135

Topics: Budget

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Staff report:

ADJOURNMENT

Roll call:

Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE

In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein

Minutes: City Council Special Meeting, Oct. 8, 2019

Carried 7-0

Approve · packet pp.137–138

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Staff report:

A joint meeting between the Issaquah City Council and the Issaquah School Board to discuss current and future actions related to the opioid crisis.

Roll call:

Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE

In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein

Minutes: Council Budget Study Session, Oct. 8, 2019

Carried 7-0

Accept Grant · packet pp.139

Topics: Budget

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Staff report:

CONSENT CALENDAR e) 10-08-19 Council Budget Study Session Minutes Page (0000)

Roll call:

Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE

In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein

Department of Ecology Water Quality Stormwater Capacity Grant AB 7863

Carried 7-0

Authorize · packet pp.185–206

Topics: WaterCritical Areas

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Staff report:

The Administration recommends Council authorize acceptance of the Department of Ecology's Water Quality Stormwater Capacity Grant funds in the amount of $50,000 and execution of the grant agreement.

Roll call:

Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE

In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein

7. PUBLIC HEARING

2020 Levy and Revenue Sources AB 7757

Conduct Public Hearing · packet pp.217–239

Topics: Budget

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Staff report:

The City's authority to impose a property tax is derived from the Washington State Constitution and described in the Revised Code of Washington (RCW) Chapters 84.52 and 84.55. The revenues from property tax are considered general government revenues. That means that this money is placed in the General Fund and can be used for any basic governmental service or good such as public safety, planning, parks or administration.

Proposed 2020 Budget, including Salary Ordinance AB 7758

Conduct Preliminary Public Hearing · packet pp.241–278

Topics: Land UseBudget

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Staff report:

PUBLIC HEARING b) CITY COUNCIL NEW AGENDA BILL AB 7758 - City Council Regular Meeting - 21 Oct 2019 Public Hearing

8. REGULAR BUSINESS

ITS Traffic Camera Upgrade AB 7852

Award Bid; Authorize Funding · packet pp.279–283

Topics: TransportationBudget

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Staff report:

The traffic safety cameras are heavily utilized by staff across the City in the following ways: • Public Works Operations (PWO) o Emergency Response (vehicle accidents, flooding, snow, earthquake, etc.) o Storm monitoring - condition of pavement surface during snow events o Detection coordination with live feed vehicle monitoring o Traffic monitoring due to unforeseen closures • Public Works Engineering (PWE) o Intersection design/functionality review o Signal timing o Traffic monitoring • Issaquah Police Department (IPD) o Suspicious activity monitoring o Collision review o Traffic backups for routing officers o Tracking suspects on foot o Used in a variety of ways for different reports (abandoned vehicle, disturbance in the ROW, etc.) o Emergency response (vehicle accidents, flooding, snow, earthquake, etc.)

9. GOOD OF THE ORDER

Upcoming Council Meetings

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0:08 ↗ you

0:14 ↗ see everybody

0:19 ↗ good evening I'd like to call to order

0:22 ↗ the City Council regular meeting of

0:24 ↗ October 21st and welcome everyone if you

0:29 ↗ would like to join the council on myself

0:30 ↗ in the pledge of allegiance first part

0:53 ↗ of our meeting this evening will be

0:55 ↗ audience comments this is your time to

0:57 ↗ address your council the guidelines for

1:00 ↗ public participation are displayed on

1:02 ↗ the overhead screen and please limit

1:04 ↗ your comments to five minutes there is a

1:07 ↗ sign-up list so those that signed up

1:08 ↗ first will be called first but if you

1:10 ↗ did not sign up I will call for other

1:12 ↗ speakers before closing this portion of

1:14 ↗ the meeting and if you are here speaking

1:16 ↗ for a group please identify the group

1:18 ↗ that you're here we're here for and if

1:21 ↗ you are in the audience this evening and

1:22 ↗ you're hearing testimony or comments

1:24 ↗ that you want to support please raise

1:26 ↗ your hands so the council has an

1:27 ↗ awareness of your support for that

1:29 ↗ particular comment or topic there's also

1:32 ↗ going to be two public hearings tonight

1:34 ↗ one on a be seven seven five seven the

1:38 ↗ 2020 levy

1:39 ↗ and revenue sources and a second hearing

1:42 ↗ on a b7 seven five eight proposed 2020

1:45 ↗ budget including salary ordinance so if

1:48 ↗ you'd like to make comments on those

1:50 ↗ topics you could hold them for an

1:52 ↗ opportunity later in the meeting when I

1:54 ↗ open those public hearings tisha has

1:57 ↗ anyone signed up to speak this evening

1:58 ↗ yes Nathan boster line up Nathan

2:06 ↗ hello everybody how you doing thank you

2:08 ↗ very much for your time I'm actually not

2:09 ↗ going to be here for the hearing part of

2:11 ↗ the meeting but I just want to give you

2:13 ↗ know yes I'm actually very excited for

2:14 ↗ this part I just moved in I'm at Nathan

2:17 ↗ Basler residing at 9 6-0

2:18 ↗ Northwest Ennis wood place here in News

2:21 ↗ 'equal Washington I'm here to talk to

2:23 ↗ counsel about the budgetary issues that

2:26 ↗ we face in the 5.2 million dollar

2:27 ↗ deficit that's we're all aware of as a

2:30 ↗ business owner myself you know I take

2:31 ↗ this stuff very seriously and I know all

2:33 ↗ of you as well take that very very

2:34 ↗ seriously so I'm here to just talk a

2:36 ↗ little bit about some of the issues and

2:37 ↗ some of the things that we might be able

2:39 ↗ to do to sharpen our pencils look very

2:41 ↗ detailed and what we can do to suspend

2:45 ↗ pause eliminate to fill that deficit

2:49 ↗ it's a big gap and I know it's very very

2:52 ↗ serious myself and my wife both live and

2:55 ↗ love Issaquah run I run my company here

2:57 ↗ in Issaquah and there's no other place

2:59 ↗ that I would ever consider living so I'm

3:01 ↗ very committed to my community so this

3:03 ↗ is a very serious topic to me as well a

3:05 ↗ few things that I think about when I

3:07 ↗ first think about budgetary cuts is are

3:10 ↗ we making the smartest decisions on land

3:12 ↗ acquisition I know that's a very

3:13 ↗ expensive thing to do and I don't know

3:15 ↗ if it's the right time especially as you

3:17 ↗ all know timing is very critical very

3:19 ↗ important especially as we face this

3:21 ↗ timing with the council going to be

3:22 ↗ shifting so I'm here to urge you to just

3:25 ↗ consider all of our options sharpen our

3:28 ↗ pencils look at the very detail-oriented

3:30 ↗ things for budgetary issues and what can

3:33 ↗ be cut in what can be eliminated I was

3:35 ↗ out walking just a couple months ago

3:37 ↗ with my wife and my dog and noticed that

3:39 ↗ the confluence park was being redone now

3:42 ↗ it's kind of concerned because you know

3:43 ↗ as a business owner I kind of think of

3:44 ↗ everything like geez that's a lot of

3:46 ↗ money how much does that cost so how

3:47 ↗ much we spending you know some of that

3:49 ↗ sort of stuff and not only just that the

3:51 ↗ cost of the land to improve in which I

3:54 ↗ felt the park was in terrific condition

3:56 ↗ as is but also the reason for

3:58 ↗ improvement with the irrigation also as

4:00 ↗ I was notified in our council board

4:03 ↗ meeting excuse me on chamber board

4:05 ↗ meeting that we also faced a very

4:06 ↗ serious issue for water sorted shortage

4:09 ↗ and for the reason the confluence park

4:11 ↗ being improved for the irrigation system

4:13 ↗ so that's what I was told and so with

4:16 ↗ that I just kind of started thinking

4:17 ↗ like is it the most appropriate time to

4:19 ↗ do that

4:19 ↗ obviously I always think about the

4:21 ↗ greater good of people who live in nests

4:23 ↗ akwonton our community and obviously you

4:25 ↗ know sitting where you said to your

4:26 ↗ tough decisions have to be made and you

4:28 ↗ know sometimes you're complimented and

4:30 ↗ praised and sometimes you're not as a

4:33 ↗ business owner I totally completely

4:34 ↗ understand that having to make tough

4:36 ↗ decisions myself you guys are on a

4:39 ↗ completely higher level than that with a

4:41 ↗ lot more eyeballs on you as well so I

4:43 ↗ know it's very challenging but I

4:44 ↗ definitely wanted to just stress really

4:47 ↗ really examining if the money is being

4:49 ↗ spent wisely looking at all options

4:52 ↗ perhaps like the land that we already

4:53 ↗ have here in Issaquah what we can do

4:56 ↗ with that land to kind of recoup and

4:57 ↗ close that gap and close that deficit

5:00 ↗ obviously people are the most important

5:02 ↗ things in our community they make up our

5:04 ↗ community this is all about people here

5:05 ↗ in Issaquah another reason why I live

5:07 ↗ and work here and have my company here

5:09 ↗ in Issaquah so with that people come

5:11 ↗ first but we need to make the decisions

5:13 ↗ of timing and make sure that the timing

5:16 ↗ is right and that you know we count

5:18 ↗ every dollar we take very seriously

5:19 ↗ because as we all know the money makes

5:21 ↗ the world go around and with city

5:23 ↗ government it's very important that it's

5:24 ↗ spent wisely so I'm just here to

5:26 ↗ encourage you to please just use your

5:28 ↗ budgetary magnifying glasses and look at

5:30 ↗ what can be spent what can be eliminated

5:33 ↗ pause to spend it as I said again and

5:35 ↗ I'm not gonna take any more time I just

5:36 ↗ wanted to thank you for allowing me to

5:37 ↗ come up here and speak my mind on behalf

5:39 ↗ of the business community and about half

5:41 ↗ of the Issaquah people and thank you

5:43 ↗ very much for your time thank you nathan

5:45 ↗ has anyone else signed up to speak this

5:47 ↗ evening no is there anyone else in the

5:50 ↗ audience that would like to come up and

5:51 ↗ address the council this evening I can

5:54 ↗ call anyone wishing to come up and

5:56 ↗ address Council do a third call anyone

6:00 ↗ okay seeing no one else will close this

6:03 ↗ portion of our meeting and thank you

6:05 ↗ Nathan for coming sharing your ideas on

6:07 ↗ our fiscal challenge the next item will

6:10 ↗ be committee and regional reports and

6:12 ↗ let's start with councilmember Walsh

6:13 ↗ thank you know we're apart at this time

6:16 ↗ Thank You councilmember hen thank you I

6:20 ↗ have two reports the first is that the

6:22 ↗ cascade water Alliance Resource

6:24 ↗ Management Committee met on October 10th

6:26 ↗ we discussed a Lake Tapps model as well

6:29 ↗ as Lake Tapps water quality model

6:32 ↗ during program so Lake Tapps is the

6:34 ↗ reservoir for cascade water Alliance and

6:38 ↗ there's ongoing water quality monitoring

6:41 ↗ as a part of that and then we also

6:43 ↗ discussed a septic survey followup with

6:47 ↗ Pierce County this also affects the

6:49 ↗ water quality of the Lake Tapps

6:51 ↗ reservoir and I thought it is relevant

6:53 ↗ to us as well because we have a number

6:55 ↗ of neighborhoods and homeowners in

6:57 ↗ Issaquah that are on septic and the

7:00 ↗ messages out of that out of that work

7:04 ↗ for homeowners are first of all that

7:06 ↗ inspection is required by the state it

7:08 ↗ is a benefit to the homeowner and the

7:10 ↗ homeowner can avoid repairs in the

7:12 ↗ future by doing inspections also there's

7:15 ↗ a difference between pumping and

7:16 ↗ inspection and just because it looks

7:18 ↗ okay doesn't mean that it's actually

7:19 ↗ treating sewage properly so there is a

7:21 ↗ importance to that inspection and also

7:25 ↗ that there's a link between water

7:26 ↗ quality and septic systems that are

7:29 ↗ functioning properly the Cascade Water

7:33 ↗ Alliance board will meet on October 23rd

7:36 ↗ which is later this week and I am the

7:39 ↗ alternate I will serve as the alternate

7:40 ↗ premiere poly at that meeting and I

7:42 ↗ wanted to update the council at the last

7:45 ↗ regular meeting I go to the order I had

7:48 ↗ discussed that we would be requesting a

7:50 ↗ true up this year instead of the

7:53 ↗ regularly scheduled two years and based

7:56 ↗ on the advice of our administration will

8:00 ↗ no longer be doing that because it isn't

8:02 ↗ going to affect our general budgetary

8:05 ↗ challenges so after more analysis and

8:09 ↗ we've all been looking at the budget

8:10 ↗ more we won't be requesting that two

8:13 ↗ year that exception to the two year true

8:17 ↗ up and if you have any questions please

8:19 ↗ ask me I go to the order or after the

8:21 ↗ meeting I also have a report from King

8:24 ↗ Conservation District Advisory Committee

8:26 ↗ this met on October 16th and we reviewed

8:30 ↗ and approved the king conservation

8:32 ↗ district urban forest initiative work

8:34 ↗ groups recommendation regarding urban

8:37 ↗ forest stewardship projects and

8:39 ↗ technical assistance and as part of this

8:42 ↗ they discussed fire wise and

8:45 ↗ there or not there would be programs

8:46 ↗ around that and it seems that that

8:48 ↗ program is currently the future of that

8:52 ↗ program is currently in jeopardy they

8:54 ↗ don't yet know if they're going to be

8:55 ↗ continuing that or sort of providing

8:58 ↗ some of that services within urban

9:00 ↗ forestry but the requests for increased

9:04 ↗ funding that they had planned on making

9:07 ↗ earlier this year they did not proceed

9:10 ↗ with because there were a number of

9:11 ↗ outstanding questions and so that

9:13 ↗ program I wasn't able to get a clear

9:15 ↗ response but I know that fire wise and

9:18 ↗ fire wildlife or sorry wildfire

9:21 ↗ preparedness is very important to our

9:23 ↗ communities so I'll continue to be

9:24 ↗ making sure that we're up to date on

9:26 ↗ that as well as reflecting as a member

9:29 ↗ of the advisory committee that that's of

9:31 ↗ great importance to our community and

9:33 ↗ that concludes my report thank you

9:35 ↗ Thank You councilmember hunt

9:36 ↗ councilmember Rea a no report this

9:38 ↗ evening Thank You councilmember we're

9:39 ↗ just saying the next meeting of the

9:43 ↗ growth management policy board is

9:44 ↗ Thursday November 7th so I have nothing

9:47 ↗ to report until after then thank you

9:50 ↗ councilmember Goodman thank you madam

9:52 ↗ mayor

9:53 ↗ Eastside Fire and Rescue board of

9:55 ↗ directors met on October 10th and there

9:57 ↗ are three items that were of interest to

10:02 ↗ report out to the to the community the

10:05 ↗ one is that with approval of the King

10:08 ↗ County EMS levy in November Eastside

10:11 ↗ Fire and Rescue will receive

10:13 ↗ approximately 340 thousand dollars

10:16 ↗ annually for a program that they would

10:19 ↗ be implementing called the mobile

10:21 ↗ integrated health care program and

10:24 ↗ that's a program that aims to deliver

10:27 ↗ higher quality and more cost-effective

10:30 ↗ [Music]

10:33 ↗ scarce re by coordinating resources

10:35 ↗ among emergency responders and local

10:38 ↗ agencies and so some of the local

10:40 ↗ agencies that Mesa fire would be looking

10:43 ↗ to partner with I'm going to be Swedish

10:45 ↗ and some senior centers local nonprofits

10:47 ↗ including the food and clothing bank

10:49 ↗ Snoqualmie Valley Hospital adult day

10:51 ↗ care facilities and other

10:53 ↗ school district snow kalbi tribe

10:56 ↗ community and essentially that aside

10:58 ↗ fire responders would be a trained to

11:04 ↗ respond to emergencies in the community

11:06 ↗ that may not necessarily be fire medical

11:10 ↗ emergencies and they could be for lack

11:12 ↗ of a better word sort of liaisons for

11:14 ↗ people in the community who need

11:15 ↗ different types of resources and so

11:18 ↗ Eastside fires really excited to be able

11:19 ↗ to start that program and I thought the

11:21 ↗ community would be interested to know

11:24 ↗ that they hope to start that program and

11:26 ↗ look at their opportunities very soon

11:28 ↗ secondly the key the statistics for

11:33 ↗ cardiac arrest are out for 2018 and

11:38 ↗ Eastside Fire and Rescue reported that

11:40 ↗ they had a it's called a survival rate

11:45 ↗ but it's a discharge from hospital rate

11:47 ↗ is more accurate more accurate

11:50 ↗ description higher than the overall King

11:52 ↗ County rate overall King County was 56%

11:56 ↗ and Eastside fire 83 percent now that's

11:59 ↗ just one year but Eastside Fire and

12:01 ↗ Rescue of course was happy with that

12:03 ↗ with that statistic by comparison and

12:07 ↗ then the third item to report out is

12:09 ↗ that the city will be saving in 2020 on

12:13 ↗ its contribution to Eastside fire its

12:16 ↗ contribution next year will be three

12:18 ↗ hundred and forty eight thousand dollars

12:19 ↗ less so that's the good news

12:22 ↗ the and not that this is bad news but

12:26 ↗ just to close the loop it's already

12:27 ↗ reflected in the budget so that doesn't

12:30 ↗ help us close our gap any further but

12:32 ↗ it's 5.2 potentially instead of five

12:35 ↗ point I have something that concludes my

12:38 ↗ report Thank You councilmember Goodman

12:40 ↗ Debbie council president batiste

12:41 ↗ thank you madam mayor no report this

12:43 ↗ evening Thank You council president

12:45 ↗ Mertz thank you madam mayor no report

12:47 ↗ this evening

12:49 ↗ it is a fast evening we'll move to the

12:51 ↗ mayor's report which is really short it

12:54 ↗ says there is no executive session this

12:56 ↗ evening just in keeping in line with

12:58 ↗ everything that you all were doing so

13:00 ↗ ahead to the consent calendar the

13:03 ↗ consent calendar was distributed to

13:05 ↗ council in advance if other eyes the

13:07 ↗ items on the consent calendar will be

13:08 ↗ considered together and approved by one

13:10 ↗ motion have the payables and payroll

13:12 ↗ been reviewed yes uh-huh thank you does

13:16 ↗ any councilmember desire to remove any

13:18 ↗ item from the consent calendar and

13:20 ↗ consider it under regular business is

13:23 ↗ there a motion madam mayor I move we

13:26 ↗ adopt sin calendars listed in tonight's

13:28 ↗ meeting agenda second it's been moved

13:31 ↗ and seconded all those in favor signify

13:33 ↗ by saying aye opposed that carries

13:37 ↗ unanimously

13:40 ↗ next on our agenda this evening is a

13:44 ↗ series of public hearings before we get

13:47 ↗ to the public hearings I wanted to

13:50 ↗ provide some supplemental budget

13:52 ↗ information for the council this evening

13:54 ↗ on some possible revenue strategies that

13:57 ↗ can be discussed by our council at their

13:59 ↗ first truly deliberative budget session

14:02 ↗ which is coming this Wednesday night so

14:05 ↗ in an email sent out earlier today I

14:07 ↗ have provided the memo to Council and

14:10 ↗ also we've had a place with our agenda

14:14 ↗ this evening so if those folks are

14:17 ↗ watching at home the memo is also

14:19 ↗ attached to the package this

14:21 ↗ supplemental information is intended to

14:23 ↗ guide the first phase of council budget

14:25 ↗ deliberations by providing alternative

14:28 ↗ revenue strategies for consideration at

14:30 ↗ this Wednesday October 23rd council

14:33 ↗ buddy budget study session as you know

14:36 ↗ revenue increases our key component in

14:38 ↗ my proposal for closing the forecasted

14:40 ↗ 5.2 million dollar general fund

14:42 ↗ shortfall in 2020 it's critical that as

14:46 ↗ council deliberates the proposed budget

14:48 ↗ beginning on October 23rd that it comes

14:50 ↗ to consensus on whatever whether it

14:53 ↗ supports the revenue increases as

14:55 ↗ proposed as a first step in its

14:57 ↗ deliberative process and prior to the

15:01 ↗ beginning of the second phase

15:02 ↗ deliberations where council discusses

15:04 ↗ additional expenditures or proposed

15:06 ↗ reductions in expenditures to better

15:09 ↗ align the proposed budget with the

15:10 ↗ council priorities there is no action

15:13 ↗ requested of council this evening at

15:15 ↗ council meeting however there has been

15:17 ↗ time allotted for clarifying questions

15:20 ↗ we will get through those questions we

15:22 ↗ will take those questions this evening

15:24 ↗ and if they can be answered great

15:25 ↗ otherwise we'll bring the answers to

15:27 ↗ Wednesday night but you're also

15:28 ↗ encouraged to continue submitting

15:30 ↗ questions up through and up through

15:32 ↗ Wednesday so that staff can prepare

15:34 ↗ answers for you in passed budget

15:36 ↗ deliberations councils included revenue

15:38 ↗ policy discussions as a regular part of

15:40 ↗ budget study sessions due to the number

15:42 ↗ of revenue policy questions embedded in

15:44 ↗ this year's proposed budget a first

15:46 ↗ phase of deliberations solely focused on

15:49 ↗ revenues is being recommended so that

15:51 ↗ council can generally agree on a

15:53 ↗ baseline revenue strategy to inform the

15:56 ↗ remaining deliberations on the

15:58 ↗ expenditure side which you will see in

16:00 ↗ the memo is a series of tables the first

16:03 ↗ table presents those revenue increases

16:06 ↗ that were proposed in my original budget

16:09 ↗ but we've also provided some scenarios

16:11 ↗ that provide lesser utility increases in

16:16 ↗ utility tax increases and also a

16:18 ↗ scenario of no tax increases at all the

16:22 ↗ hope here is that these tables can show

16:25 ↗ you the magnitude of impact depending on

16:27 ↗ which scenario revenue strategy the

16:29 ↗ council chooses to go with have also

16:32 ↗ heard that there has been council

16:34 ↗ concern over the cumulative impact of

16:36 ↗ rate increases and/or tax increases the

16:40 ↗ tables that follow the first table on

16:43 ↗ page 2 is the water utility fund and it

16:47 ↗ shows the expected rate revenues in 2019

16:51 ↗ and then the next column over would be

16:53 ↗ the mayor's proposed budget followed by

16:56 ↗ an alternative which is a rate increase

16:58 ↗ that is the rate increase proposed

17:00 ↗ before the addition of the water

17:02 ↗ treatment plant and it shows the

17:04 ↗ difference between those different

17:05 ↗ scenarios I've also heard that council

17:07 ↗ is interested in understanding on a rate

17:09 ↗ payer basis what might somebody see on

17:12 ↗ their bill so there are a couple

17:13 ↗ additional two

17:14 ↗ Abel's that show impacts on monthly

17:16 ↗ bills and total utility rates I

17:20 ↗ recognize that the decisions to increase

17:22 ↗ tax rates are difficult I did not take

17:25 ↗ this decision lightly when developing my

17:26 ↗ proposed budget our resources have not

17:29 ↗ kept pace with demand

17:30 ↗ I see raising revenues is an important

17:32 ↗ variable to ensure that we can continue

17:34 ↗ to provide high quality services to our

17:37 ↗ residents but I also recognize that

17:39 ↗ their impact our taxpayers that council

17:41 ↗ needs to consider all options as it

17:44 ↗ deliberates the budget so my staff

17:46 ↗ stands ready to respond to questions and

17:48 ↗ help refine the options as councils

17:50 ↗ begin their deliberations on Wednesday

17:52 ↗ and I have heard from a few council

17:54 ↗ members that there are already some

17:55 ↗ clarifying questions so at this point in

17:57 ↗ time if there are any questions on the

17:59 ↗ memo we can have our finance director

18:01 ↗ Beth Goldberg come up and address them

18:04 ↗ or at least catalog them so that we can

18:06 ↗ have some answers for you on Wednesday

18:08 ↗ night s tudents councilmember Goodman

18:10 ↗ yeah on page 3 there are three tables

18:18 ↗ and the middle table and the bottom

18:22 ↗ table have the labels and the columns on

18:27 ↗ the left are different and I I want to

18:29 ↗ make sure I understand the first one

18:32 ↗ that the by monthly billing table on the

18:36 ↗ left it says one row says water rates

18:40 ↗ once a one row says water utility taxes

18:43 ↗ and then water total cost and then in

18:45 ↗ the last table it says total utility

18:52 ↗ rates total utility taxes and total

18:56 ↗ bimonthly cost of the three utilities

18:57 ↗ and so I wanted to understand what was

18:59 ↗ included in water rates water utility

19:02 ↗ taxes and then total utility I just

19:04 ↗ didn't quite understand what was all

19:06 ↗ included yes so the table at the top of

19:12 ↗ page three is just showing the impacts

19:16 ↗ for the water utility itself whereas the

19:21 ↗ table at the bottom of page three

19:23 ↗ includes the impacts not just for the

19:25 ↗ water utility but also sewer and storm

19:28 ↗ water I you might recall that well we

19:32 ↗ split it up for two reasons first of all

19:34 ↗ the council is currently contemplating

19:39 ↗ changes to the water rates for 2020 so

19:42 ↗ we wanted to isolate that out and then

19:45 ↗ the related utility taxes along with

19:48 ↗ that and for the water utility you might

19:51 ↗ recall that right now we have utility

19:53 ↗ tax on the water utility of two point

19:56 ↗ three three percent the proposed budget

19:59 ↗ contemplates increasing that to six

20:01 ↗ percent on the other city run utilities

20:05 ↗ sewer and stormwater there are no

20:09 ↗ utility rate increases proposed for 2020

20:14 ↗ beyond what's been already adopted and

20:16 ↗ there is in place now no utility tax on

20:21 ↗ those utilities the 2020 proposed budget

20:24 ↗ proposes raising those utility taxes

20:26 ↗ from the current zero to six percent so

20:29 ↗ that there's uniformity across all of

20:31 ↗ the utility the utilities city run

20:34 ↗ utilities and frankly all the utilities

20:36 ↗ beyond that so that's the difference

20:38 ↗ between the two tables thank you are

20:41 ↗ there any other questions councilmember

20:42 ↗ Rea then council member Walsh and this

20:44 ↗ isn't really necessary related to the

20:46 ↗ memo but thank you for the memo this is

20:49 ↗ there are you totter rate increases that

20:53 ↗ are scheduled for 2020 independent of

20:56 ↗ the water treatment plant correct yes

21:00 ↗ what are the already approved increases

21:03 ↗ in yes so the as of now there is a

21:10 ↗ council adopted three point five percent

21:12 ↗ increase on the water utility scheduled

21:15 ↗ to go into effect January 1st 2020 what

21:20 ↗ is before the council now would be to

21:22 ↗ increase that three point five percent

21:24 ↗ to nine percent another five point five

21:28 ↗ percent for the water treatment plant so

21:30 ↗ that's that's what the council is

21:32 ↗ currently deliberating great that's what

21:34 ↗ I was I was thinking the revenue

21:37 ↗ projections are based on the nine

21:39 ↗ percent rate increase in

21:40 ↗ 2020 correct for balancing the general

21:44 ↗ fund budget well for balancing the water

21:46 ↗ fund and the general fund budget it's

21:48 ↗ its based on the higher baseline

21:51 ↗ correct thank you

21:53 ↗ Thank You councilmember Walsh my

21:56 ↗ question has been answered thank you

21:58 ↗ other clarifying questions and this

22:00 ↗ would not be the end because you've just

22:02 ↗ received this material today and have to

22:04 ↗ digest it before Wednesday I can't

22:07 ↗ remember interesting it's actually

22:08 ↗ supplemental information and maybe we

22:10 ↗ already have it in our materials but

22:11 ↗ what are the number of water utility

22:16 ↗ customers between residential and

22:18 ↗ commercial that we have in the city I

22:20 ↗ will have to get back to you on that

22:23 ↗ thank you other questions okay thank you

22:29 ↗ we will now move on to the public

22:31 ↗ meeting public hearing portion of our

22:34 ↗ meeting so this public hearing for a be

22:36 ↗ seven seven five seven the 2020 Le'Veon

22:39 ↗ revenue sources was set by council at

22:41 ↗ the October 7th 2019 council meeting

22:44 ↗ tonight there will be a brief staff

22:46 ↗ presentation and an opportunity for

22:48 ↗ council questions followed by the public

22:50 ↗ hearing and we'll keep director goldberg

22:52 ↗ up there thank you

22:54 ↗ council members this is the first of two

22:58 ↗ public hearings this evening and the

23:02 ↗ first one is going to cover property tax

23:04 ↗ in other revenues RCW 8455 requires all

23:11 ↗ jurisdictions loving property tax to

23:13 ↗ hold a public hearing on revenue sources

23:15 ↗ before adopting said rates so tonight is

23:20 ↗ is the public hearing only one public

23:23 ↗ hearing is is required although council

23:26 ↗ can choose to keep this public hearing

23:28 ↗ open if it decides the schedule has it

23:32 ↗ so that we will be coming back to you on

23:34 ↗ November 4th for the adoption of the

23:38 ↗ property tax levy this is what will set

23:40 ↗ the property tax levy rates for

23:42 ↗ residents for 2020 and then set the

23:46 ↗ course for the amount of revenues that

23:48 ↗ we can expect to receive from property

23:50 ↗ tax for 2020 in terms of other revenues

23:54 ↗ as the mayor just spoke of there are

23:57 ↗ other revenue proposals in the budget

23:58 ↗ this year including the utility tax and

24:01 ↗ some parks fees are the notable ones we

24:05 ↗ are planning on introducing the

24:07 ↗ legislation that would allow the council

24:11 ↗ to deliberate enact those changes on

24:15 ↗ November 4th and then council adoption

24:18 ↗ of those ordinances would be slated for

24:22 ↗ November 18th so I just want to give you

24:26 ↗ a little bit of an overview and you have

24:29 ↗ seen this slide before of our general

24:34 ↗ fund revenue picture property tax which

24:37 ↗ is the main focus of the public hearing

24:40 ↗ this evening represents about 19% of

24:42 ↗ general fund revenues and this slide

24:46 ↗ depicts those revenues at nine point

24:48 ↗ four million dollars you might recall

24:51 ↗ although we've been inundated me with a

24:53 ↗ ton of information of late so I'll say

24:57 ↗ this verbally as well you might recall

24:59 ↗ in the agenda bill accompanying the

25:01 ↗ property tax that we have received

25:03 ↗ revised property tax information from

25:05 ↗ the King County Assessor's Office namely

25:08 ↗ new construction data the new

25:10 ↗ construction outlook has improved and

25:13 ↗ that is boosting the revenue potential

25:16 ↗ from property tax by a hundred and

25:19 ↗ eleven thousand dollars so this nine

25:22 ↗ point four million would be more like

25:23 ↗ nine point five nine point six million

25:25 ↗ dollars so that's that the overall

25:29 ↗ revenue picture and then the other

25:31 ↗ slices of this we've we've talked about

25:33 ↗ before with sales tax for example being

25:35 ↗ the single largest revenue source for

25:38 ↗ the city's general fund as we have

25:43 ↗ discussed before and again I'll repeat

25:46 ↗ here again just knowing the volume of

25:48 ↗ information we've been presenting to all

25:50 ↗ of you the 20/20 proposed budget

25:53 ↗ recommends levying the 1 percent

25:55 ↗ increase on property tax capturing the

25:57 ↗ value of new construction and capturing

26:01 ↗ the banked capacity what you

26:05 ↗ saw and what we have talked about

26:07 ↗ previously are the numbers that are

26:09 ↗ reflected in the middle column on the

26:11 ↗ chart being projected here and that's

26:14 ↗ the nine point four million dollars

26:16 ↗ again based on the revised information

26:19 ↗ we received from the King County

26:20 ↗ Assessor's Office that forecast is now

26:23 ↗ at nine point five nearly nine point six

26:27 ↗ million dollars I also maybe should

26:30 ↗ pause here to say it is not changes in

26:34 ↗ updates to the forecast from King County

26:37 ↗ are very common throughout the process

26:40 ↗ and it is likely we will continue to get

26:43 ↗ more updates through the end I've been

26:47 ↗ joking with staff that I've been doing

26:49 ↗ budgeting since 1996 and there's a

26:52 ↗ person at the King County Assessor's

26:53 ↗ Office that every jurisdiction in King

26:55 ↗ County is waiting for data from her name

26:57 ↗ is hazel waiting for fir hazel so it's

27:00 ↗ like have we heard from hazel and we

27:01 ↗ heard from hazel so we we got an update

27:03 ↗ from hazel you know a couple weeks ago

27:05 ↗ last week the the picture is improved

27:08 ↗ and as we get closer to November fourth

27:11 ↗ I will also be saying if we heard from

27:13 ↗ hazel have we heard from hazel so and

27:15 ↗ hazel is retiring so this will be the

27:17 ↗ last year you will hear me say we heard

27:18 ↗ from hazel so anyway that I just want to

27:22 ↗ underscore that this is a normal part of

27:24 ↗ the process that these these numbers

27:26 ↗ will fluctuate so one of the questions

27:31 ↗ that came up I believe it was the

27:35 ↗ October 7th and 8th presentations was

27:38 ↗ round banked capacity and why the value

27:44 ↗ of banked capacity and maybe before I go

27:47 ↗ back oh why the value of banked capacity

27:49 ↗ was being shown at 138 thousand dollars

27:53 ↗ which seemed low relative to the five

27:57 ↗ years that the city for four went the

28:01 ↗ one percent increase in property tax and

28:05 ↗ that number has been revised a little

28:07 ↗ bit and I'll explain that in a moment

28:09 ↗ but the idea of this slide is to explain

28:12 ↗ how that happened and calculating

28:15 ↗ property tax in Washington state is

28:19 ↗ not the most straightforward of

28:20 ↗ exercises and in doing some research

28:24 ↗ about what happened it appears as if the

28:29 ↗ city was making taking forgetting to

28:35 ↗ take one key step in the annual property

28:37 ↗ tax calculation that resulted in the

28:41 ↗ city unknowingly tapping into banked

28:45 ↗ capacity each year such that that value

28:47 ↗ eroded and what I'm hoping to do with

28:50 ↗ this slide and hoping to make this a

28:52 ↗ simple presentation of a complex task is

28:55 ↗ to explain how that happened and so what

28:58 ↗ you do when you're calculating property

28:59 ↗ tax each year is you take the previous

29:02 ↗ year's levy so in this case I'm using

29:04 ↗ 2019 so the previous year's levy would

29:06 ↗ be the 2018 levy that was at eight point

29:09 ↗ eight million dollars it included a real

29:13 ↗ evie

29:13 ↗ of refunds from the current year of

29:16 ↗ $13,000 because that's a real evie it's

29:19 ↗ actually there's a little bit of a

29:20 ↗ double count going on in there so what

29:23 ↗ you need to do at the start of the next

29:24 ↗ year is back out those refunds in this

29:28 ↗ case $13,000 so the the levy base for

29:32 ↗ 2019 would lower from eight point eight

29:34 ↗ no eight point eight point one six

29:37 ↗ million to 8.0 two million if you look

29:42 ↗ at the bottom half of this slide to the

29:44 ↗ slide to the numbers in red what

29:47 ↗ happened is that it appears that the

29:50 ↗ city did not back out those refunds so

29:53 ↗ was levying a slightly higher rate that

29:57 ↗ in effect was slowly eating into the

30:01 ↗ banked capacity in the case of 2019 we

30:06 ↗ ate into the Bank capacity by about

30:07 ↗ twelve thousand dollars and so this next

30:10 ↗ slide is intended to show how this kind

30:16 ↗ of played out or didn't kind of flout

30:18 ↗ how it did play out over the years so if

30:22 ↗ you look at 2013 you will see that banks

30:27 ↗ capacity peaked at four hundred and

30:29 ↗ twenty four thousand dollars that year

30:32 ↗ and then what you will see in the year

30:34 ↗ since is that that has slowly AB de way

30:39 ↗ and the amounts that it is Abdul way are

30:43 ↗ largely tied to the amounts of those

30:48 ↗ refunds so you'll see the refunds from

30:50 ↗ the previous years shown on the far as

30:56 ↗ you're looking at this far right of what

30:58 ↗ you are looking at and then by not

31:01 ↗ backing that out it it it eight in to

31:05 ↗ the amount of banked capacity that was

31:08 ↗ available and you'll see those numbers

31:09 ↗ closely aligned they're off because of

31:12 ↗ how the one percent then rolls through

31:14 ↗ it so that is the answer to the question

31:19 ↗ of how the banked capacity has lowered

31:25 ↗ to now one hundred and sixty seven

31:27 ↗ thousand dollars and maybe I'll pause

31:29 ↗ there in case there are we have some

31:30 ↗ questions councilmember interesting

31:32 ↗ thank you Beth

31:34 ↗ all you use I heard everything I needed

31:37 ↗ to hear when you said we had not taken

31:40 ↗ that calculation into account that's why

31:43 ↗ the amount I was one who asked the

31:44 ↗ question it just didn't seem the amount

31:46 ↗ that you were claiming for been capacity

31:48 ↗ didn't seem in line and is is it correct

31:51 ↗ to say then the calculation of our levy

31:54 ↗ rate was affected by not backing this

31:58 ↗ number out it was so it was it would

32:01 ↗ have been a little bit higher than the

32:03 ↗ one percent and it was not you know

32:09 ↗ caught by you know King County when we

32:11 ↗ send them the rates they just see that

32:13 ↗ we've got the capacity in there and so

32:15 ↗ that's that's how it got enacted you

32:18 ↗ know they didn't know whether it was

32:19 ↗ intended to be you know dipping into the

32:22 ↗ bank capacity or not but that is the

32:24 ↗ effect of what had happened so it's not

32:26 ↗ that the city lost that capacity in fact

32:30 ↗ we've been utilizing it each year since

32:33 ↗ it was just being done not you know

32:38 ↗ unbeknownst to

32:41 ↗ to the city when we weren't acting those

32:45 ↗ cans member Walsh could you take a

32:48 ↗ moment just for the community to talk

32:51 ↗ about the difference between the bank to

32:53 ↗ capacity and 1% and why we might not

32:56 ↗ have taken in the past but are

32:58 ↗ potentially choosing to do so now yes so

33:01 ↗ in Washington state property tax can

33:07 ↗ grow at 1% plus new construction each

33:10 ↗ year and that is at a rate that is far

33:15 ↗ less than the rate at which costs are

33:19 ↗ increasing so you often hear people

33:21 ↗ talking about structural deficits it's

33:23 ↗ tied to this the cap on property tax so

33:27 ↗ a jurisdiction county a city can choose

33:31 ↗ to levy the 1% plus new construction the

33:34 ↗ new constructions basically automatic

33:36 ↗ the 1% the decision point the way the

33:39 ↗ property tax law is written in

33:41 ↗ Washington State

33:42 ↗ it allows jurisdictions to say this year

33:45 ↗ we're not going to levy the 1% for

33:47 ↗ whatever reason jurisdictions have

33:49 ↗ different reasons to not to not levy the

33:51 ↗ 1% but there is a provision that says

33:55 ↗ okay if you forego that 1% you can bank

33:58 ↗ the capacity and come back and use that

34:01 ↗ later so between 2009 and 2013 the city

34:07 ↗ decided to not take the 1% and to bank

34:12 ↗ that capacity and we are recommending

34:16 ↗ given our budget challenges now we are

34:19 ↗ recommending now taking what is left of

34:22 ↗ that banked capacity and applying that

34:25 ↗ to to the budget to partially offset

34:28 ↗ budget shortfall

34:34 ↗ so just as a follow-up than for the

34:38 ↗ taxpayer if they had a home in 2009 to

34:43 ↗ 2013 and still have it through today

34:45 ↗ then they did not see a 1% increase on

34:49 ↗ their property taxes between 2009 and

34:52 ↗ 2013 except for this adjustment that

34:56 ↗ wasn't supposed to happen yes and no I

34:59 ↗ wish it weren't quite that clean to

35:02 ↗ explain it so the 1% isn't a 1% on what

35:06 ↗ an individual was paying the 1% is

35:09 ↗ applied to what was collected in that

35:12 ↗ prior year and so in those years 2009 to

35:17 ↗ 2013 the city chose not to grow the

35:22 ↗ property tax you know if you were

35:24 ↗ collecting $100 in 2008 it would have

35:28 ↗ grown to a hundred and one dollars in

35:30 ↗ 2009 if you you levied that 1% the city

35:34 ↗ for four went to that I don't even know

35:37 ↗ what that 4 gone in past tense but

35:40 ↗ anyway for did not did not exercise that

35:44 ↗ option so it stayed at the hundred

35:46 ↗ dollars but as you will see and I've got

35:48 ↗ a slide I believe in here the rates that

35:52 ↗ our taxpayers are paying have actually

35:55 ↗ gone down because the what we're

35:58 ↗ collecting is going up but assessed

36:01 ↗ value on homes have been going up that

36:04 ↗ much more so the rate that our taxpayers

36:07 ↗ are paying is actually lower on the

36:10 ↗ value of per thousand dollar value of

36:12 ↗ their home any other questions before we

36:15 ↗ have Beth move on you'll still have an

36:17 ↗ opportunity for questions it's not so

36:23 ↗ much it's kind of a question it's try it

36:26 ↗ out let's I I was asking all here I I

36:32 ↗ don't ever recall I've been up here

36:34 ↗ since 2011 and I don't ever recall

36:37 ↗ during budget or any other time hearing

36:41 ↗ the term banked capacity and so

36:44 ↗ I mean Beth won't know the answer

36:47 ↗ because she wasn't here it's me it's

36:48 ↗ just more sort of a question comment

36:51 ↗ from council members who were who've

36:56 ↗ been here all this time

36:57 ↗ who you know think I'm wrong maybe my

37:01 ↗ memories bad but this is the first time

37:03 ↗ I've ever heard it's just more of a

37:05 ↗ comment first time I've ever heard about

37:06 ↗ banked capacity was in this budget

37:08 ↗ season comes my reader saying thank you

37:14 ↗ and I also don't have a question I just

37:16 ↗ do want to acknowledge Beth this is not

37:18 ↗ the first time you've stood at that

37:20 ↗ podium and were had no choice but to be

37:24 ↗ very transparent about what has happened

37:26 ↗ in the past and to explain our

37:29 ↗ circumstances today and I hope the

37:32 ↗ public appreciates as much as I do with

37:34 ↗ how much you come forward with this

37:35 ↗ information I think very with disarming

37:38 ↗ candor so I appreciate that transparency

37:40 ↗ nice compliment you're going to continue

37:43 ↗ with the presentation I can guess and

37:45 ↗ actually this is a good segue from

37:48 ↗ councilmember Walsh's question in terms

37:50 ↗ of the rate impacts or how this is going

37:54 ↗ to impact its aqua tax payers so

37:59 ↗ capturing banks capacity would add

38:02 ↗ roughly $12 per year to the average

38:06 ↗ annual it's a qua property tax bill and

38:10 ↗ in terms of overall impact the estimated

38:14 ↗ property tax bill for the average

38:15 ↗ homeowner for 2020 would be six hundred

38:19 ↗ and ninety seven dollars which is up

38:22 ↗ from six hundred and forty six dollars

38:24 ↗ in 2019 now what people are actually

38:27 ↗ paying in property tax is is far greater

38:30 ↗ than the six hundred and ninety six

38:33 ↗ dollars that I am or six hundred ninety

38:35 ↗ seven dollars that I'm speaking of here

38:37 ↗ and that is because property taxes are

38:39 ↗ also going to King County to the school

38:42 ↗ district to some other special taxing

38:46 ↗ districts so people's property tax bills

38:50 ↗ are much higher than this but we're

38:53 ↗ focusing on the Issaquah portion because

38:55 ↗ that is the portion

38:57 ↗ upon which you are making some decisions

38:59 ↗ or will be making some decisions in

39:01 ↗ terms of the rates this table depicts

39:05 ↗ what I was trying to explain maybe not

39:07 ↗ so artfully a moment ago about how the

39:11 ↗ the the levy rate per thousand dollar so

39:15 ↗ it's per thousand of assessed value has

39:17 ↗ actually been going down since 2011 and

39:21 ↗ that is because the median house value

39:24 ↗ has been going up so while the amount

39:26 ↗ that people are paying to the city has

39:29 ↗ gone up over this period of time the

39:31 ↗ rate that they are paying has actually

39:33 ↗ declined over this period there have

39:38 ↗ also been some questions about new

39:40 ↗ construction and so I wanted to take a

39:42 ↗ moment and describe the impact of new

39:45 ↗ construction on on the budget and this

39:49 ↗ was a little bit more pronounced before

39:52 ↗ we heard from hazel last week when we

39:57 ↗ had received some preliminary data that

39:58 ↗ showed that our new canoe construction

40:02 ↗ was 67 thousand dollars I think it is

40:06 ↗ now reported at a hundred and I'm sorry

40:09 ↗ sixteen seven 67 million it is now

40:14 ↗ reported at two hundred and thirteen

40:16 ↗ million dollars which while lower than

40:19 ↗ the new construction values in recent

40:22 ↗ years still remains fairly strong

40:26 ↗ particularly when you compare it to 2014

40:30 ↗ and 2015 what we cannot answer is how

40:34 ↗ much of this is related to volume of new

40:37 ↗ construction versus how much of this is

40:39 ↗ related to natural the growth the growth

40:43 ↗ in assessed value can'tcan't tease that

40:46 ↗ out but the overall value of new

40:50 ↗ construction does remain strong at 213

40:53 ↗ million it does mean though that the

40:57 ↗ amount of property tax increase we are

40:59 ↗ getting from that in the 2020 budget is

41:02 ↗ less both because the value of

41:04 ↗ assessment of the assessed value of new

41:06 ↗ construction is lower than 2019 but also

41:09 ↗ you will

41:10 ↗ see here how that rate plays out and so

41:13 ↗ the rate is is is decreasing and so the

41:17 ↗ amount of revenue that we are deriving

41:19 ↗ from new construction is about a hundred

41:21 ↗ and sixty nine thousand as opposed to

41:23 ↗ two hundred and seventeen thousand last

41:25 ↗ year you questions or should we have

41:28 ↗ bath skip gun and then just to wrap up I

41:32 ↗ believe this is the last slide before

41:34 ↗ we'll open up the public hearing the

41:37 ↗ proposed budget is also contemplating

41:39 ↗ other revenue changes including utility

41:43 ↗ tax rate increases and some increases

41:46 ↗ and select parks fees and we will be

41:49 ↗ introducing legislation for these pieces

41:52 ↗ on November fourth and of course the

41:54 ↗ council will continue its deliberations

41:57 ↗ on these proposals Thank You Beth before

42:00 ↗ I let you sit down are there any more

42:03 ↗ questions for Beth before we go to the

42:04 ↗ public hearing no questions thank you

42:08 ↗ Beth the guidelines for citizen comments

42:12 ↗ also apply to those that are made under

42:14 ↗ the public hearing so as a reminder if

42:16 ↗ you were here as part of a group and

42:17 ↗ wish to speak tonight please identify

42:19 ↗ the group that you're speaking for as

42:21 ↗ well and if you are here this evening

42:23 ↗ and support the comments you hear please

42:25 ↗ raise your hands so council can see that

42:26 ↗ I will now open the public hearing at

42:30 ↗ 7:42 and has anyone signed up to speak

42:33 ↗ this evening no is there anyone who

42:36 ↗ would like to speak this evening to

42:38 ↗ Council first call I think Mona

42:48 ↗ good evening Kathy McCrory with the

42:50 ↗ Greater Issaquah Chamber of Commerce

42:51 ↗ first we like to start by thanking all

42:54 ↗ of you for your due diligence and

42:55 ↗ thanking the mayor's office for some

42:58 ↗ making some tough decisions and putting

43:00 ↗ forth some great solutions we would like

43:04 ↗ to just give a little bit of extra

43:06 ↗ information that as you go through the

43:09 ↗ deliberation process if other potential

43:14 ↗ revenue ideas might come up we just like

43:17 ↗ to make you aware of some of the

43:19 ↗ following our fiscal year starts April

43:23 ↗ 1st and we have noted that during the

43:25 ↗ first five months of this year we have

43:28 ↗ lost just as many businesses in Issaquah

43:32 ↗ to closing or relocating as all of last

43:35 ↗ year so just food for thought we are

43:38 ↗ experiencing a little bit of a slowdown

43:40 ↗ right now to taxpayers only have so much

43:44 ↗ appetite for increased taxes and so

43:48 ↗ please just keep in mind our appetite

43:50 ↗ moving forward because we know we have a

43:52 ↗ transportation benefit district we're

43:54 ↗ looking forward to forming and we've got

43:56 ↗ some tax concerns there and we just want

44:01 ↗ to make sure that that's in your mind

44:03 ↗ and you're thinking of those coming up

44:05 ↗ in the future as you are with our water

44:08 ↗ treatment plant in those increases and

44:11 ↗ then just remember too that even though

44:14 ↗ we expect the world from all of you and

44:17 ↗ we want everything we want we do also

44:20 ↗ realize that your role in our lives is

44:23 ↗ to provide us with basic services of

44:25 ↗ fire police and infrastructure and we

44:29 ↗ thank you for all of you the hard work

44:31 ↗ you're doing for not just the business

44:33 ↗ community but for all of us Thank You

44:36 ↗ Kathy is there anyone else who would

44:38 ↗ like to speak this evening second call

44:40 ↗ anyone wishing to address Council and

44:43 ↗ third and final call no one else

44:46 ↗ okay so council you have a couple of

44:48 ↗ options here we can you can entertain

44:50 ↗ closing the public hearing this is

44:52 ↗ required by state law to have it this

44:54 ↗ evening and so you can close it but you

44:57 ↗ can also continue it so I

44:59 ↗ I would like to hear your thoughts

45:01 ↗ before we decide on the next step let's

45:03 ↗ present Mertz so I think that we have

45:11 ↗ envisioned having a further conversation

45:15 ↗ this week about some of the options and

45:19 ↗ flavors if the council wanted to look in

45:22 ↗ a substantially different direction on

45:25 ↗ revenue and potentially expenditures

45:28 ↗ this year because of the magnitude of

45:31 ↗ the options that are in front of us I

45:33 ↗ would like to have that conversation and

45:35 ↗ then potentially continue the hearing to

45:40 ↗ more formally get community feedback in

45:44 ↗ addition to the natural feedback that we

45:45 ↗ would get so I would be inclined to

45:49 ↗ continue the hearing but would also like

45:51 ↗ to hear how my fellow council members

45:53 ↗ feel about it that's that's Myra Goodman

45:57 ↗ I would agree with continuing the

45:59 ↗ hearing we still have some substantive

46:04 ↗ deliberations to occur and to the extent

46:07 ↗ that the community might have feedback

46:10 ↗ for us um I'd like to hear it Debu

46:16 ↗ council council president patís I would

46:20 ↗ I would agree I I think continuing the

46:23 ↗ hearing makes sense we we do have some

46:25 ↗ things coming up and would like to have

46:27 ↗ the opportunity to hear from the

46:28 ↗ community in regard to those that's my

46:31 ↗ rudest thing plus one okay if there's

46:33 ↗ general consensus to do that feel free

46:35 ↗ to make a motion to continue the hearing

46:37 ↗ and do we have some motion language in

46:39 ↗ here for them okay it anybody like to

46:43 ↗ make a motion to continue the public

46:44 ↗ hearing to the November 4th 2019 council

46:47 ↗ meeting so moved

46:48 ↗ okay for a second second it's been moved

46:51 ↗ and seconded is there any council

46:52 ↗ discussion council member Walsh I just

46:56 ↗ have a question when would this be

46:58 ↗ coming back then

46:59 ↗ November 4th okay so the public hearing

47:03 ↗ would remain open until the November 4th

47:05 ↗ okay thank you Thanks

47:07 ↗ any further discussion her questions or

47:10 ↗ clarifications

47:12 ↗ that's a member interesting I just want

47:14 ↗ to add to the body of knowledge that

47:17 ↗ everybody is working with and there's

47:18 ↗ been a couple of good questions and I

47:20 ↗ know this is a confusing thing but I

47:22 ↗ just have some simple calculations I

47:23 ↗ want to share with everybody going back

47:25 ↗ to the year 2013

47:27 ↗ and using a single property my own 8 my

47:33 ↗ assessed value in that time frame has

47:35 ↗ gone up ninety two point three percent

47:37 ↗ which is pretty typical for Issaquah my

47:43 ↗ total in and and that's actually through

47:47 ↗ next year the through next year's

47:49 ↗ assessed value which I already have and

47:52 ↗ using the rates that are being proposed

47:54 ↗ my total tax bill will have gone up

47:58 ↗ twenty four point five percent at that

48:00 ↗ same time so what we collect from

48:04 ↗ homeowners does not track one-to-one

48:06 ↗ with the value of their home because our

48:08 ↗ levy rate goes down that's because we

48:11 ↗ can't collect more than 1% more unless

48:14 ↗ we're taking part of Bank capacity I

48:16 ↗ just learned tonight I know that is

48:18 ↗ confusing but so I've had a twenty four

48:20 ↗ point five percent increase in property

48:22 ↗ tax while my assessed value is gone up

48:25 ↗ ninety two point three just other

48:29 ↗ numbers for people to keep in mind thank

48:31 ↗ you any other comments or questions okay

48:35 ↗ seeing none all those in favor of

48:37 ↗ continuing the public hearing to the

48:38 ↗ November 4th 2019 council meeting

48:41 ↗ signify by saying aye aye opposed that

48:45 ↗ carries unanimously next item on the

48:47 ↗ agenda this evening is EB 775 8 proposed

48:51 ↗ 2020 budget including salary ordinance

48:54 ↗ and we will be conducting a preliminary

48:57 ↗ public hearing this evening and tonight

49:01 ↗ a public hearing on the preliminary 2020

49:03 ↗ budget will be conducted there will be a

49:05 ↗ brief presentation and an opportunity

49:07 ↗ for council questions and the public

49:08 ↗ hearing and director Goldberg it might

49:13 ↗ help to explain to the council as well

49:17 ↗ why this hearing is structured a little

49:19 ↗ differently and why this hearing could

49:21 ↗ actually be closed this evening after

49:23 ↗ public comment

49:25 ↗ yes and maybe before doing that I

49:28 ↗ realized I forgot to mention one thing

49:30 ↗ in the property tax portion and that is

49:34 ↗ when setting the rates for next year we

49:37 ↗ are also taking into account a refunding

49:41 ↗ or a refinancing of 2009 bond series

49:44 ↗ that is currently outstanding the

49:47 ↗ interest rates are favorable enough that

49:50 ↗ we are eligible to do a refunding in

49:52 ↗ December and we'll be coming back to you

49:55 ↗ with an ordinance on November 4th that

49:58 ↗ would allow us a bond ordinance to do

50:01 ↗ that refunding and it would save about

50:04 ↗ one hundred and sixty six thousand

50:05 ↗ dollars to two in that service costs

50:09 ↗ between now and twenty twenty-nine so

50:11 ↗ that is factored in to the rates

50:14 ↗ unfortunately it's it's a very small

50:16 ↗ impact but where we can we are trying to

50:18 ↗ capture savings for its acquire a payers

50:21 ↗ so with that then I'll go back to the

50:25 ↗ budget and this public hearing as the

50:28 ↗ mayor indicated is a little bit

50:29 ↗ different than the public hearing

50:31 ↗ related to the revenues and that is

50:33 ↗ because there are different state laws

50:35 ↗ governing the this these public hearings

50:39 ↗ so our cw35

50:40 ↗ a 33 requires cities to hold two public

50:43 ↗ hearings as opposed to one on the

50:46 ↗ revenues prior to adopting the budget so

50:49 ↗ tonight's public hearing is the

50:51 ↗ preliminary public hearing on the

50:53 ↗ proposed budget and then on November

50:56 ↗ 18th there will be a final public

50:59 ↗ hearing which will be on the proposed

51:02 ↗ budget plus any amendments that you will

51:05 ↗ be contemplating between now and then so

51:08 ↗ tonight's public hearing can be closed

51:11 ↗ and there will be another opportunity to

51:12 ↗ have a public hearing on the budget on

51:16 ↗ November 18th I remind you of our

51:23 ↗ calendar we have been through three

51:28 ↗ sessions with all of you our four

51:30 ↗ sessions actually if you count this know

51:31 ↗ October 7th and 8th we're now here at

51:34 ↗ the public hearing we are coming back on

51:36 ↗ wins

51:37 ↗ day two for council to begin their

51:39 ↗ deliberations and then we'll continue

51:41 ↗ the march on to November 18th I want to

51:46 ↗ just remind you that the 20/20 proposed

51:50 ↗ budget for all funds not just the

51:52 ↗ general fund of funds totals one hundred

51:54 ↗ and forty eight point two million

51:55 ↗ dollars of which fifty point two million

51:58 ↗ dollars is the general fund and forty

52:02 ↗ two million are the enterprise funds the

52:04 ↗ utilities water swarn stormwater the

52:07 ↗ general fund is fifty point two million

52:10 ↗ dollars and as we discussed a week or

52:14 ↗ two ago a majority of this is or the

52:17 ↗ largest chunk of this is for public

52:19 ↗ safety functions fire police and

52:21 ↗ Municipal Court in terms of the general

52:27 ↗ fund itself I did want to highlight the

52:30 ↗ issue of fund balance the city does have

52:32 ↗ a fund balance policy that says fund

52:35 ↗ balance should be fifteen to twenty

52:37 ↗ percent of total expenditures and this

52:41 ↗ budget does allow us to continue to meet

52:45 ↗ and exceed that fund balance target

52:48 ↗ thirteen point seven million dollars of

52:51 ↗ fund balance that represents twenty

52:52 ↗ seven point three percent of

52:54 ↗ expenditures and fund balance is

52:57 ↗ important for a couple of reasons first

53:00 ↗ of all it provides the city with

53:03 ↗ protection if there are unexpected

53:06 ↗ emergencies whether that is a natural

53:08 ↗ disaster or a sudden economic

53:10 ↗ contraction that we need to respond to

53:12 ↗ it gives us time to do that it also is

53:17 ↗ an important signal to the bank's when

53:22 ↗ we're selling bonds of our our financial

53:26 ↗ wherewithal and financial health they

53:29 ↗ are looking to our fund balance numbers

53:32 ↗ for those reasons so in that respect

53:35 ↗ fund balance is an important variable as

53:38 ↗ we're looking at the budget I as we have

53:41 ↗ discussed the general fund budget does

53:44 ↗ close to 5.2 million dollar shortfall

53:46 ↗ primarily resulting from

53:49 ↗ weakness in general fund revenues we are

53:53 ↗ closing this gap through a combination

53:54 ↗ of expenditure and reductions and

53:57 ↗ revenue increases we've talked earlier

54:01 ↗ tonight about the revenue increases as a

54:03 ↗ reminder on the expenditure side we're

54:06 ↗ doing a combination of belt-tightening

54:07 ↗ capturing savings from salary and

54:10 ↗ benefits professional services costs and

54:15 ↗ scaling back some level of services for

54:18 ↗ example at some of the community center

54:20 ↗ ours is one area we have previously

54:22 ↗ talked about the end result of this is

54:25 ↗ that the 20/20 proposed budget is nearly

54:28 ↗ three million lower than the 2019

54:30 ↗ adopted budget we've also talked about

54:35 ↗ FTE levels and this chart is is a more

54:40 ↗ narrow view but you might recall from

54:42 ↗ the presentation on October 7th that FTE

54:45 ↗ growth has not kept pace with population

54:47 ↗ growth that's not depicted as much in

54:50 ↗ this slide as as much as that FTEs are

54:54 ↗ only now just recovering to the pre

54:57 ↗ great recession levels and with the

55:00 ↗ positions that we are recommending for

55:02 ↗ not funding in 2020 our FTE levels have

55:07 ↗ actually fallen then below the the pre

55:09 ↗ great recession levels and the savings

55:12 ↗ from holding these seven positions

55:15 ↗ unfunded exceeds 1 million dollars so

55:19 ↗ before I wrap up my comments tonight

55:23 ↗ will again remind you of the policy

55:27 ↗ questions that we are asking the council

55:29 ↗ to contemplate as it begins its

55:32 ↗ deliberations about the 2020 proposed

55:35 ↗ budget you all have raised a number of

55:38 ↗ other questions that we have endeavored

55:40 ↗ to answer and so just want to point you

55:44 ↗ back to these these policy questions as

55:46 ↗ you begin your deliberative process and

55:50 ↗ with that we can I can conclude my

55:53 ↗ comments and begin the public hearing

55:56 ↗ questions from Council members before we

55:58 ↗ open the public hearing

56:00 ↗ no no so if there are no questions the

56:05 ↗ guidelines for citizen comments are the

56:07 ↗ same as you've seen twice before tonight

56:09 ↗ I'm going to open this public hearing at

56:13 ↗ 7:55 and tisha has anyone signed up to

56:17 ↗ speak no is there anyone who would like

56:22 ↗ to come up and address the council mine

56:25 ↗ up

56:30 ↗ hello everybody again Nathan Basler 96 0

56:33 ↗ Northwest in this would place is Co

56:35 ↗ Washington just want to make quick

56:37 ↗ statement obvious we all know people

56:38 ↗ make up community pick up people make up

56:40 ↗ the council people make up companies I

56:43 ↗ don't want to see people ever cut or

56:46 ↗ sacrificed or lowered or lost people

56:48 ↗ good people can only come around once in

56:49 ↗ a while and I hope we can retain the

56:51 ↗ great people that the city has already

56:53 ↗ attracted here so I just urge you and

56:56 ↗ hope that we can find other solutions

56:58 ↗ I commend the numbers that were cranked

57:00 ↗ out around that I think that's very

57:02 ↗ smart responsible but I hope you find

57:04 ↗ other ways as well to close that gap

57:06 ↗ thank you Thank You Nathan is there

57:08 ↗ anyone else who would like to address

57:09 ↗ council this evening that can call your

57:14 ↗ didn't final call anyone wishing to

57:15 ↗ address the council they'll close the

57:18 ↗ public hearing at 757

57:27 ↗ so as a reminder counsel is not being

57:29 ↗ asked to take any action this evening

57:31 ↗ budget deliberations will continue at

57:33 ↗ budget study sessions on October 23rd 28

57:36 ↗ and November 6 and a second public

57:39 ↗ hearing will be held on the final budget

57:41 ↗ including council's proposed amendments

57:44 ↗ on November 18th council is anticipate

57:47 ↗ to adopt the 2020 budget on November

57:49 ↗ 18th next item on the agenda is regular

57:52 ↗ business a b 7 8 5 to the i TS traffic

57:57 ↗ camera upgrade this is a bit of war you

58:03 ↗ die closed hearing double check the

58:07 ↗ hearing is closed just so it's clear

58:09 ↗ Thank You council president a B 7 8 5 to

58:13 ↗ IITs traffic camera upgrade this is a

58:16 ↗ bit award an authorization for funding

58:19 ↗ and I'd like to ask Ben and Ozma Public

58:21 ↗ Works operations streets manager to make

58:24 ↗ a presentation I Bennett good evening

58:30 ↗ thank you for having me tonight this

58:34 ↗ agenda bill request Council

58:36 ↗ authorization to award a construction

58:38 ↗ contract to upgrade the existing traffic

58:40 ↗ cameras mounted on intersections

58:42 ↗ throughout the city I have up here at a

58:45 ↗ picture of kind of the command center

58:48 ↗ that we can see from our monitors I'm

58:52 ↗ going to get into how we use them why we

58:56 ↗ use them and why they're important for

58:57 ↗ us so yeah so a little background the

59:03 ↗ traffic safety cameras are heavily

59:05 ↗ utilized by city staff in the following

59:09 ↗ ways they pwo uses them public works

59:12 ↗ operations uses them for emergency

59:14 ↗ response for vehicle accidents flooding

59:17 ↗ snow earthquakes he named it storm

59:21 ↗ monitoring the condition of the pavement

59:23 ↗ surface during snow events detection

59:26 ↗ coordination when we're trying to look

59:29 ↗ at how the vehicles are making it

59:33 ↗ through an intersection traffic

59:35 ↗ monitoring due to unforseen closures

59:37 ↗ Issaquah hobart closes

59:39 ↗ and how our traffic speeding routed

59:41 ↗ through town

59:43 ↗ Public Works engineering utilizes these

59:45 ↗ cameras for signal timing as well and

59:47 ↗ traffic monitoring but one of the

59:51 ↗ heaviest users is the Issaquah Police

59:53 ↗ Department dispatch uses these cameras

59:56 ↗ heavily for collision review prior to

59:59 ↗ officers getting on us on-site traffic

1:00:02 ↗ backups for routing officers to the site

1:00:06 ↗ tracking suspects on foot or in vehicles

1:00:09 ↗ that are you know running from the

1:00:11 ↗ police used in a variety of ways for

1:00:14 ↗ different reporting abandoned vehicles

1:00:15 ↗ disturbances in the right away

1:00:17 ↗ suspicious activity and also emergency

1:00:21 ↗ response for flooding snow and the rest

1:00:25 ↗ our communications department has still

1:00:29 ↗ shots uploaded on our website of the

1:00:31 ↗ each camera every two minutes they is

1:00:35 ↗ one of the most viewed webpages web

1:00:38 ↗ pages on the city website we've got

1:00:42 ↗ 5,300 views in 2018 and just today

1:00:47 ↗ there's an accident on Front Street and

1:00:49 ↗ they used it to post still shot of the

1:00:52 ↗ accident in their Twitter feed these

1:00:56 ↗ cameras need to be updated now because

1:01:00 ↗ they're 12 years old they run on an old

1:01:02 ↗ software outdated software that won't be

1:01:05 ↗ supported either by Microsoft or by the

1:01:08 ↗ you know the software chameleon that we

1:01:10 ↗ use to view the cameras IT also

1:01:16 ↗ explained that if it's not being

1:01:17 ↗ supported by Microsoft and it's now

1:01:19 ↗ it'll it will become a security gap and

1:01:22 ↗ after 2020 essentially all the existing

1:01:27 ↗ analog cameras which you see majority of

1:01:31 ↗ analog up here the the poorer images on

1:01:34 ↗ the screen are analog and those are B

1:01:36 ↗ those are the ones that were we're

1:01:38 ↗ trying to replace essentially after 2020

1:01:42 ↗ they'll become obsolete they'll be off

1:01:43 ↗ they will not run on our system anymore

1:01:47 ↗ so this project includes

1:01:50 ↗ the removal of 38 existing analog

1:01:52 ↗ traffic cameras and all their components

1:01:55 ↗ and installing 35 new IP cameras which

1:02:00 ↗ there is a map of in the agenda bill so

1:02:07 ↗ the background on this on this project

1:02:09 ↗ in general it was originally approved in

1:02:13 ↗ 29 and 2017 and at that time it was

1:02:17 ↗ proposed to be as work performed by city

1:02:19 ↗ crews local governments can utilize

1:02:23 ↗ statewide master contracts for

1:02:26 ↗ procurement and goods of goods and

1:02:29 ↗ services which in this case resulted in

1:02:31 ↗ 35 percent discount on materials they

1:02:35 ↗ can also perform in-house traffic

1:02:36 ↗ control and this resulted in a low

1:02:39 ↗ estimate for the approved budget in

1:02:41 ↗ seventeen that has been further carried

1:02:45 ↗ forward from 17 to 18 to 19 and in

1:02:50 ↗ nineteen other this year I met with the

1:02:53 ↗ city attorney and we talked through the

1:02:57 ↗ project itself and decided that the

1:02:59 ↗ thresholds in state law for the work it

1:03:03 ↗ exceeds the thresholds in state law for

1:03:05 ↗ a city to perform the work in-house and

1:03:09 ↗ a competitive bidding process would need

1:03:11 ↗ to occur

1:03:13 ↗ so basically we proceeded to advertise

1:03:16 ↗ the project initiate the bidding process

1:03:18 ↗ we open for bids on August 30th two bids

1:03:22 ↗ were received and the low bid came in at

1:03:25 ↗ three hundred seventy two thousand three

1:03:27 ↗ hundred and eighty five dollars

1:03:29 ↗ obviously this is a change from our

1:03:31 ↗ approved budget amount a few reasons for

1:03:34 ↗ that overage is that our that the

1:03:38 ↗ contractors do not get the 35 percent

1:03:40 ↗ discount on equipment majority of the

1:03:43 ↗ costs for this contract is equipment

1:03:46 ↗ traffic control is expensive when

1:03:48 ↗ performed in-house or performed by

1:03:50 ↗ contractors added costs for mobilization

1:03:53 ↗ and additional bonds and three years of

1:03:56 ↗ inflation and an expense to expensive

1:03:58 ↗ industry the bids for this project

1:04:02 ↗ expires 65 days after

1:04:04 ↗ being received on November 20th given

1:04:08 ↗ the widespread use of these cameras

1:04:10 ↗ the administration has recommended the

1:04:12 ↗ authorizing additional funds with

1:04:14 ↗ existing budgets in order to proceed

1:04:16 ↗ with the project at this time the way

1:04:22 ↗ that we would fund that is the funding

1:04:25 ↗ will be taken from two different sources

1:04:27 ↗ the I TS traffic signal system fund

1:04:29 ↗ balance which is a fun intended for the

1:04:32 ↗ needed upgrades for the I TS traffic

1:04:34 ↗ signals which includes the traffic

1:04:35 ↗ cameras and the remaining budgeted funds

1:04:38 ↗ from the 2019 pavement management

1:04:39 ↗ program so I believe we have other

1:04:45 ↗ options in the agenda bill and would you

1:04:49 ↗ like me to go through all those all

1:04:51 ↗ right

1:04:56 ↗ so that concludes your presentation I

1:04:59 ↗ did see some quizzical looks we have

1:05:02 ↗ some questions it's not fully concluded

1:05:04 ↗ I guess so you can see the difference in

1:05:06 ↗ the analog and the IP IP is the top left

1:05:09 ↗ camera you can see the difference in

1:05:12 ↗ quality there this is one from today

1:05:18 ↗ granted there was rainy and that's also

1:05:22 ↗ one from today that's IP camera and

1:05:25 ↗ that's the analog camera as you can see

1:05:28 ↗ the difference in the quality that we're

1:05:29 ↗ trying to get away from and that does

1:05:33 ↗ conclude my present

1:05:35 ↗ I thought councilmember winter Stein and

1:05:38 ↗ councilmember Ray a question boy if

1:05:44 ↗ there's ever a topic that wants to make

1:05:45 ↗ me pull my hair out why could you

1:05:47 ↗ explain a little bit more why we can't

1:05:51 ↗ do this in-house in our and have no

1:05:54 ↗ choice but to spend a lot more money

1:05:56 ↗ what was the determination there I will

1:06:00 ↗ lead to how did we get to that I will

1:06:05 ↗ phone a friend

1:06:08 ↗ whenever the cost of a public works

1:06:11 ↗ project and I view this as a public

1:06:13 ↗ works project exceeds the bid limits

1:06:15 ↗ in the in the state law we are required

1:06:19 ↗ to go out for bid and treat it as a

1:06:21 ↗ public work we can't break the project

1:06:25 ↗ into segments and do it with public with

1:06:28 ↗ employees unless it is below the bid

1:06:30 ↗ limits and it was determined that this

1:06:33 ↗ particular project including the cost of

1:06:36 ↗ materials and equipment and so forth of

1:06:39 ↗ doing this project took it above the

1:06:41 ↗ public bid limits which is one hundred

1:06:45 ↗ and sixteen thousand five hundred and

1:06:47 ↗ fifty five dollars something like that

1:06:52 ↗ something to talk to your state

1:06:54 ↗ legislators about councilmember Rey so

1:06:57 ↗ two questions first is give a breakdown

1:07:00 ↗ on how much of the cost is equipment

1:07:03 ↗ versus services versus software I would

1:07:08 ↗ be able to get that to you it is

1:07:10 ↗ majority equipment when I had the

1:07:15 ↗ original budget in the contract

1:07:17 ↗ documents I receive questions from

1:07:19 ↗ bidders saying the cost of the equipment

1:07:21 ↗ exceeds your contract amount in your bid

1:07:25 ↗ you know the project they estimate the

1:07:27 ↗ allotted budget amount Wow so yes so if

1:07:32 ↗ we do move forward with this new

1:07:34 ↗ equipment what new features functions

1:07:37 ↗ capabilities do we get beyond what we

1:07:39 ↗ have today you get a much more secure

1:07:44 ↗ Network this is a security gap for our

1:07:47 ↗ city it's running on Windows 7

1:07:51 ↗ you also get much higher quality cameras

1:07:54 ↗ and higher quality picture and you

1:08:00 ↗ continue to be able to utilize the

1:08:02 ↗ cameras in the ways that IPD does and

1:08:06 ↗ pwo does to think you know it makes us

1:08:09 ↗ much more efficient right I have three

1:08:12 ↗ questions okay the third one is how can

1:08:15 ↗ we be creative and create value using

1:08:18 ↗ this higher-quality picture are there

1:08:21 ↗ things that and this is may not be a

1:08:23 ↗ question this may be

1:08:25 ↗ go forth and look at sure ways that we

1:08:27 ↗ can create more value and use these

1:08:29 ↗ cameras and these data feed in new and

1:08:33 ↗ creative ways that might help us to

1:08:35 ↗ address some of our information gaps

1:08:38 ↗ around traffic and traffic flows yeah

1:08:42 ↗ we'll take that comment and that

1:08:44 ↗ suggestion more questions

1:08:46 ↗ deputy council president teeth thank you

1:08:50 ↗ for the presentation so the support the

1:08:53 ↗ Microsoft support ends at the end of

1:08:55 ↗ 2020 yes okay and I know there was an

1:09:00 ↗ email and I was looking for it but could

1:09:04 ↗ we talk a bit about the the budgeted

1:09:08 ↗ funds that come from the pavement

1:09:10 ↗ management program is just trying to

1:09:12 ↗ find that I believe council member Walsh

1:09:14 ↗ asked that question talk to how they're

1:09:17 ↗ being why we have remaining or how

1:09:19 ↗ they're being utilized during there was

1:09:21 ↗ an answer that came along with it and I

1:09:22 ↗ was just not able to just to paraphrase

1:09:24 ↗ it was a concern over using funding from

1:09:28 ↗ a project area where we a program area

1:09:31 ↗ where we assumed we need more funding

1:09:33 ↗ and ensuring that we might be drawing

1:09:34 ↗ down something that could be used for

1:09:35 ↗ pavement management absolutely so our

1:09:38 ↗ payment management program in 2019 we

1:09:44 ↗ put together the scope of work in the

1:09:47 ↗ bid documents and we received bids that

1:09:49 ↗ were lower than the estimate on top of

1:09:51 ↗ that I also had I also put forth a

1:09:55 ↗ pavement condition rating contract this

1:09:58 ↗ year and I really there's a large

1:10:01 ↗ variable amount that that could have

1:10:04 ↗ came in at so I wanted to have a little

1:10:05 ↗ buffer for that that came in lower than

1:10:07 ↗ expected and then as well as that with

1:10:11 ↗ Public Works engineering and the cap

1:10:13 ↗ utility capital improvement projects

1:10:18 ↗ they were doing we coordinated and we

1:10:20 ↗ maximized

1:10:21 ↗ our impact basically and while they were

1:10:24 ↗ replacing a water line they were helping

1:10:26 ↗ fund half of the basically they're

1:10:29 ↗ required to do a two inch overlay after

1:10:31 ↗ they do their water line and instead of

1:10:33 ↗ them paving half the road we're

1:10:36 ↗ coordinated and I we got a

1:10:38 ↗ full road paved and they paid for half

1:10:40 ↗ the work so in an effort to try to

1:10:42 ↗ maximize the dollar and the smaller fund

1:10:45 ↗ that we have basically we have savings

1:10:50 ↗ and it's not a balance that's carried

1:10:51 ↗ forward to the next year unfortunately

1:10:53 ↗ it goes right back to the to the

1:10:56 ↗ corresponding funding source either

1:10:57 ↗ reading or general fund so at the end of

1:11:00 ↗ the year it's gone it's back to the

1:11:05 ↗ other funding sources okay thank you

1:11:08 ↗ it's gone from Bennett but you still

1:11:10 ↗ have it so mm-hmm

1:11:12 ↗ that's my rush so to follow on that idea

1:11:15 ↗ my concern is this concept of using

1:11:22 ↗ using payment management or this so it

1:11:25 ↗ sounds almost like all these funds are

1:11:29 ↗ in the pavement management fund right

1:11:31 ↗ now we could really count them as REIT

1:11:34 ↗ funds because that's where they're going

1:11:36 ↗ to go if we didn't use them so from my

1:11:41 ↗ mindset I'm not taking something from

1:11:44 ↗ pavement management right I'm really

1:11:46 ↗ taking something from REIT so then my

1:11:49 ↗ secondary question is if we had

1:11:56 ↗ optimized a whole bunch of stuff in

1:11:58 ↗ pavement management why is there why

1:12:02 ↗ don't we just do more pavement

1:12:04 ↗ management during the year is it a sense

1:12:08 ↗ of not having enough man-hours even

1:12:11 ↗ though you've got savings or what no is

1:12:14 ↗ it so essentially it's a not not to

1:12:21 ↗ exceed fund right $900,000 is our

1:12:24 ↗ funding for PMP as I put out a project I

1:12:28 ↗ have to scope out the work and there are

1:12:31 ↗ variables in that work whether they're

1:12:33 ↗ soft sub grade or we have to do more

1:12:35 ↗ patching or something like that so I

1:12:37 ↗ have to have that buffer if there's a

1:12:39 ↗ year without any issues and yes I'm

1:12:41 ↗ going to be coming in lower and I can I

1:12:43 ↗ can change order work into that contract

1:12:46 ↗ and we can continue to utilize those

1:12:48 ↗ funds throughout the year I

1:12:50 ↗ can't however pave 1/3 of a roadway or

1:12:55 ↗ 200 feet of a roadway to maximize that

1:12:58 ↗ last 50 grand

1:13:00 ↗ I need a much clearer scope for the

1:13:02 ↗ contractors to get clear bids and if the

1:13:06 ↗ money was to be carried over then we

1:13:10 ↗ would have more flexibility in being

1:13:13 ↗ able to utilize the all the funding in

1:13:15 ↗ the next year but that is not currently

1:13:18 ↗ the case in the second so to follow up

1:13:21 ↗ on that

1:13:22 ↗ why are those funds why is this not a

1:13:27 ↗ sinking fund why why is the money going

1:13:32 ↗ back to read mayor members of the

1:13:36 ↗ council it's a policy decision of the

1:13:39 ↗ council I think it really is not a fun

1:13:41 ↗ it's an account and so the money is

1:13:43 ↗ managed through the account for the

1:13:45 ↗ balance of the year if the council wish

1:13:47 ↗ to say you were going to make a deposit

1:13:48 ↗ into a fund and give more flexibility so

1:13:51 ↗ the money didn't have to be spent

1:13:53 ↗ that's something it could do but that's

1:13:54 ↗ not been in the past practice yes it is

1:14:04 ↗ it's it's an account it's any it's like

1:14:07 ↗ an expenditure and the REIT is the

1:14:09 ↗ revenue source

1:14:10 ↗ so is city administrator Bob Jewett said

1:14:13 ↗ the council could decide to set up a

1:14:16 ↗ fund if it wanted to with a funding

1:14:20 ↗ source like REIT that is highly volatile

1:14:26 ↗ I will say that does make me the finance

1:14:29 ↗ director a little bit nervous just

1:14:31 ↗ because of the volatility of REIT and

1:14:34 ↗ we've talked previously about how the

1:14:37 ↗ pavement management program while a

1:14:39 ↗ capital investment is an ongoing need

1:14:42 ↗ it's not like you know you build a new

1:14:45 ↗ building or you install playground

1:14:49 ↗ equipment and you know you're one and

1:14:51 ↗ done kind of thing this is an ongoing

1:14:52 ↗ need and we've got REIT a volatile

1:14:55 ↗ revenue source tied to that ongoing need

1:14:58 ↗ so that makes me a little bit nervous

1:15:01 ↗ but you know

1:15:02 ↗ that's not my decision that's that's a

1:15:03 ↗ council decision dr. Goldberg could you

1:15:06 ↗ also expand on one of the approaches you

1:15:09 ↗ had mentioned to council earlier about

1:15:10 ↗ the TBD and that the TBD could be a

1:15:13 ↗ source of revenue that I think

1:15:15 ↗ councilmember Walsh is looking towards

1:15:17 ↗ creating yes so we had talked this is

1:15:20 ↗ going back to our conversations back in

1:15:23 ↗ May and I correspondent actually with I

1:15:27 ↗ think same night that over the payment

1:15:30 ↗ manager there are more needs more

1:15:32 ↗ pavement management needs then we do

1:15:35 ↗ have revenue sources so what we have

1:15:39 ↗ contemplated for the transportation

1:15:40 ↗ benefit district is to name a series of

1:15:46 ↗ projects capital projects that those

1:15:49 ↗ those revenues would support and that

1:15:52 ↗ revenues that we collect beyond what is

1:15:55 ↗ needed to pay debt service on those

1:15:57 ↗ costs would be dedicated to the pavement

1:16:00 ↗ management program so that is a future

1:16:03 ↗ funding source that could be available

1:16:08 ↗ to the city if the city does put the

1:16:11 ↗ transportation benefit district measure

1:16:13 ↗ on the ballot and the voters of histo

1:16:14 ↗ kua approved that that measure that's my

1:16:18 ↗ register did you have an additional

1:16:19 ↗ question I do a couple first comment

1:16:21 ↗ earlier I said this is the kind of thing

1:16:23 ↗ that makes me want to pull my hair out

1:16:24 ↗ about we are forced to go spend some

1:16:27 ↗ more money but the other end of the

1:16:28 ↗ spectrum I'm very grateful for you

1:16:29 ↗ Bennett for you as you described how

1:16:32 ↗ you've planned and executed this program

1:16:34 ↗ and got for the citizens of Issaquah a

1:16:37 ↗ pavement management program for a really

1:16:39 ↗ good dollar so I really appreciate the

1:16:41 ↗ work that you've done and how you

1:16:42 ↗ explain why we even have a balance left

1:16:45 ↗ this year so thank you very much I have

1:16:49 ↗ a couple questions now it's gonna be a

1:16:51 ↗ test

1:16:51 ↗ I'll tempt it what does IT s stand for

1:16:54 ↗ intelligent traffic system intelligent

1:16:57 ↗ because it's envisioned to with a

1:16:59 ↗ monitor and somebody's sitting at

1:17:02 ↗ switches the ability to make adjustments

1:17:04 ↗ to our stoplights so that traffic can

1:17:06 ↗ flow yes we have that capability yes and

1:17:11 ↗ that's why we have a separate fund we

1:17:12 ↗ funded this and I

1:17:14 ↗ there actually was I think was bond I

1:17:17 ↗ don't remember the original how we put

1:17:19 ↗ this together maybe bond related we said

1:17:21 ↗ we want to we want to raise money to put

1:17:23 ↗ in an IT s so that we can manage flow

1:17:25 ↗ through town and and fascinatingly

1:17:28 ↗ however in your introduction you

1:17:30 ↗ describe uses and and public benefit

1:17:33 ↗ we're getting that go way beyond flow

1:17:35 ↗ Yeah right you did and one of them was

1:17:38 ↗ among you talked quite a bit about

1:17:39 ↗ public safety you talked about police

1:17:41 ↗ even chasin link bad guys yeah that was

1:17:43 ↗ that was a foot but a couple of times

1:17:47 ↗ you mentioned PW Public Works operations

1:17:49 ↗ especially during snow events not only

1:17:51 ↗ for themselves but even for residents

1:17:54 ↗ like what's it really like at the foot

1:17:56 ↗ of squawk Mountain I mean that's the

1:17:57 ↗ time when I look at these as well and I

1:17:59 ↗ bring that up because it's clear that

1:18:02 ↗ our public works group who has access to

1:18:06 ↗ other funds benefits from this piece of

1:18:10 ↗ infrastructure where my mind is I do not

1:18:13 ↗ want to use the ballots read I want to

1:18:15 ↗ use the rest of the I TS and see if we

1:18:18 ↗ could get the balance for this contract

1:18:20 ↗ somewhere else

1:18:20 ↗ and I'm sorry we couldn't discuss this

1:18:22 ↗ earlier but because pwo is such a

1:18:26 ↗ benefactor of this system is it possible

1:18:29 ↗ if instead of rate we can tap into pwo

1:18:33 ↗ funds I don't know that I can give you a

1:18:45 ↗ straight answer tonight it the the pwo

1:18:49 ↗ funds are the utility funds so the

1:18:53 ↗ question that we would have to look at

1:18:56 ↗ is the ability within existing rates to

1:19:00 ↗ be able to absorb those costs and or if

1:19:05 ↗ it it requires a rate change so that

1:19:08 ↗ that's not something I can answer

1:19:09 ↗ tonight we also just well have to make

1:19:11 ↗ sure that there is strong alignment we

1:19:17 ↗ can I think make a case for that but we

1:19:19 ↗ that would be something we would have to

1:19:21 ↗ investigate further yeah that certainly

1:19:23 ↗ threatens the 65 day window

1:19:26 ↗ and whether other uses you talked about

1:19:29 ↗ public safety most of that comes from

1:19:33 ↗ comes from general fund some of it comes

1:19:36 ↗ from mitigation what other are the other

1:19:37 ↗ uses and it that you describe I'm

1:19:41 ↗ hunting for other sources other than

1:19:43 ↗ reet I'm just be very candid with you I

1:19:45 ↗ know unfortunately this feels like a a

1:19:47 ↗ committee meeting I realize that's our

1:19:51 ↗ first chance to talk about it microphone

1:19:56 ↗ good part in terms of other uses for

1:20:01 ↗ these cameras we've covered a pretty big

1:20:05 ↗ swath of them and a snow response is

1:20:08 ↗ definitely definitely all the streets

1:20:09 ↗ accident response streets is using it

1:20:12 ↗ however there are spills associated with

1:20:14 ↗ accident response and we do have

1:20:18 ↗ flooding but we can definitely get back

1:20:19 ↗ to you on that I don't I don't know I

1:20:21 ↗ haven't even explored that in my head

1:20:24 ↗ right now I was you know so hopefully

1:20:27 ↗ it's clear to everybody where my head is

1:20:28 ↗ on that I so I do appreciate the way you

1:20:31 ↗ put the presentation together in ways

1:20:32 ↗ that's explained and again I really you

1:20:36 ↗ know wish we would have more of a chance

1:20:37 ↗ to do this before a planned action

1:20:40 ↗ tonight yep there my first opportunity

1:20:42 ↗ to talk about it any other questions

1:20:47 ↗ council president Mertz so around this

1:20:50 ↗ whole idea signal timing what fraction

1:20:54 ↗ of the time do we have someone

1:20:55 ↗ monitoring and adjusting lights based on

1:20:58 ↗ the cameras that is typically

1:21:03 ↗ responsibility the traffic engineer and

1:21:05 ↗ my signal text make the adjustments

1:21:08 ↗ based on recommendations from the

1:21:09 ↗ engineering department and I would not

1:21:12 ↗ be able to give you a clear answer on

1:21:14 ↗ how often they are reviewing those for

1:21:16 ↗ signal time changes so that's not like

1:21:19 ↗ eight hours a day kind of thing we're

1:21:21 ↗ not dynamically adjusting light timing

1:21:24 ↗ currently in the city no we are not

1:21:26 ↗ doing that

1:21:30 ↗ thank you any other questions

1:21:32 ↗ councilmember Goodman I hope I didn't

1:21:37 ↗ miss this are like cameras considered a

1:21:40 ↗ capital asset yes okay and it's not in

1:21:46 ↗ there

1:21:47 ↗ I'm guessing it's I don't think it's in

1:21:50 ↗ the Capital Improvement Plan and I'm

1:21:52 ↗ wondering if part of it is because he's

1:21:56 ↗ been Harry Ford each year from the CIP

1:21:59 ↗ it's tr 18 I believe is it yeah okay

1:22:04 ↗ good thanks

1:22:05 ↗ additional questions that's memory I'm

1:22:10 ↗ just trying to figure out how to get the

1:22:11 ↗ cost down so the biggest problem as I

1:22:14 ↗ see it early isn't I mean I love the new

1:22:16 ↗ high resolution but the biggest problem

1:22:18 ↗ really is the lack of support on Windows

1:22:21 ↗ 7 going forward right and the correct

1:22:25 ↗ and the associated security

1:22:26 ↗ vulnerabilities yes is there a way for

1:22:29 ↗ us to upgrade the current equipment to

1:22:31 ↗ use Windows 10 and the most recent

1:22:36 ↗ version of software we are currently

1:22:38 ↗ using special adapters to allow the

1:22:41 ↗ functionality and they basically will

1:22:44 ↗ not work basically the system becomes

1:22:46 ↗ obsolete after next year according to IT

1:22:48 ↗ and the the software manufacturer so

1:22:53 ↗ when is this gonna be implemented if we

1:22:55 ↗ go forward as soon as possible but you

1:22:59 ↗ have a bid that is good for how long how

1:23:02 ↗ many days number 20th how long is it

1:23:05 ↗ gonna take to implement I mean from from

1:23:06 ↗ when we say go to when we say we're done

1:23:10 ↗ three months

1:23:11 ↗ well days the traffic control industry

1:23:15 ↗ is very very behind in terms of you

1:23:20 ↗ order a street light pole it says it

1:23:23 ↗ might take up to 23 weeks so I can't

1:23:26 ↗ give you a firm amount of time on months

1:23:29 ↗ before the equipment shows up but once

1:23:31 ↗ the equipment shows up it would happen

1:23:33 ↗ very quickly

1:23:35 ↗ I mean well so Microsoft's gonna stop

1:23:39 ↗ support for Windows 7 on the first

1:23:41 ↗ January though we're gonna have a no up

1:23:45 ↗ 2020

1:23:45 ↗ well we from what I've heard from IT we

1:23:49 ↗ are paying X amount of money to maintain

1:23:54 ↗ that through 2020 okay but that's phone

1:24:00 ↗ and a friend who's not here additional

1:24:05 ↗ questions we could also entertain a

1:24:07 ↗ motion if you want to have a

1:24:09 ↗ conversation a discussion versus

1:24:10 ↗ questions question still could we pursue

1:24:15 ↗ only half of the cameras or something

1:24:19 ↗ like that yes so that is the option that

1:24:22 ↗ our that is one of the options that was

1:24:24 ↗ presented there are quite a few so we

1:24:30 ↗ could award the contract with the

1:24:31 ↗ existing budget which would I don't know

1:24:35 ↗ exactly how that mathematically plays

1:24:37 ↗ out but less than half of the cameras

1:24:39 ↗ would be the analog cameras would be

1:24:41 ↗ updated to IP cameras and or we could

1:24:47 ↗ use the existing IT s fund to its full

1:24:51 ↗ capacity and be able to get more I mean

1:24:54 ↗ it's all a number game it I can cut back

1:24:57 ↗ the scope of the project

1:24:59 ↗ as much as needed however we will lose

1:25:03 ↗ that functionality the intersections on

1:25:07 ↗ that map you know whatever amount it's

1:25:10 ↗ all it's all a pro game so on that idea

1:25:14 ↗ if we decided hey we've only got money

1:25:18 ↗ in the fund and we only want to allocate

1:25:21 ↗ the amount this year to take care of

1:25:25 ↗ that portion mm-hmm and then maybe we

1:25:28 ↗ want to go in in a later year and add

1:25:31 ↗ back the other the other cameras I

1:25:36 ↗ assume that would add to costs because

1:25:39 ↗ then you would have two different

1:25:40 ↗ contracts with yes ob rebid with a lower

1:25:45 ↗ quantity you know there was more

1:25:46 ↗ quantity cheaper prices but majority of

1:25:51 ↗ this is an equipment purchase and that's

1:25:53 ↗ how I bid it

1:25:54 ↗ as equipment only on the cameras and the

1:25:57 ↗ component pieces so so I could make

1:26:02 ↗ these adjustments if we needed to make

1:26:03 ↗ them thank you additional questions

1:26:08 ↗ that's more interesting so if we limited

1:26:11 ↗ the funds available to this to the I TS

1:26:15 ↗ funds only that would be seventy

1:26:18 ↗ thousand and change plus the 176 so

1:26:22 ↗ that's 246 a little bit short of the bid

1:26:27 ↗ but we could get significant amount of

1:26:30 ↗ work done and you if we did that then

1:26:33 ↗ the overall coverage in the city would

1:26:36 ↗ be less it would be removing there would

1:26:38 ↗ be a net loss of coverage yes I mean oh

1:26:44 ↗ but we can decide which intersections

1:26:45 ↗ were putting him at you know we can

1:26:47 ↗ maximize the visibility of which

1:26:50 ↗ intersection we're putting him at we

1:26:52 ↗ currently did that by taking we're

1:26:54 ↗ taking away three we're taking away

1:26:56 ↗ thirty-eight and we're putting back

1:26:57 ↗ thirty-five to try to get a little lower

1:27:00 ↗ but yes and then theoretically mmm-hmm

1:27:06 ↗ if in the future we wanted to add

1:27:08 ↗ capacity it probably below one hundred

1:27:10 ↗ and sixteen thousand and we could add

1:27:11 ↗ some more cameras I will of course I

1:27:17 ↗ don't

1:27:22 ↗ comes present Mertz do we know the

1:27:25 ↗ public traffic to the website where

1:27:28 ↗ these cameras are located do we know how

1:27:30 ↗ many how many hits we get from the

1:27:33 ↗ public yeah I have a graph I can show

1:27:37 ↗ you do not state it was five thousand

1:27:40 ↗ plus it was fifty three hundred last

1:27:42 ↗ year last year additional Oh city

1:27:49 ↗ administrator Bob coats madam mayor

1:27:51 ↗ members of the council I think it really

1:27:53 ↗ comes down to what do you want to do I

1:27:55 ↗ mean we can find I think the money is

1:27:57 ↗ there I think it's important to

1:27:58 ↗ reinforce that this is not a separate

1:28:01 ↗ restricted fund this is a allocation in

1:28:04 ↗ the budget and so staff is just trying

1:28:07 ↗ to be is trying to give

1:28:08 ↗ a solution and so there were those

1:28:10 ↗ dollars that have not been allocated

1:28:12 ↗ this year we have put that forward if

1:28:15 ↗ you choose not to spend them on these

1:28:16 ↗ cameras that money's gonna go to fund

1:28:18 ↗ balance and will be used to help balance

1:28:20 ↗ the budget so it's not there's not a

1:28:22 ↗ mechanism in place to keep this money

1:28:24 ↗ put aside for other pavement or

1:28:27 ↗ transportation issues so if you'd like

1:28:29 ↗ to move forward with the cameras I think

1:28:31 ↗ it would be helpful to approve the

1:28:33 ↗ contract moving forward we could come

1:28:35 ↗ back as we balanced the budget in the

1:28:37 ↗ fourth quarter with a solution to get

1:28:40 ↗ this done talking to the finance

1:28:43 ↗ director there may be opportunity to

1:28:44 ↗ take somebody there's no storm water

1:28:46 ↗ money in this for example so since we

1:28:48 ↗ use this to monitor storms and drainage

1:28:50 ↗ we probably could take a portion out of

1:28:52 ↗ that so I think it really comes down to

1:28:55 ↗ do you want to do this I think we can

1:28:56 ↗ finance it if you don't then whatever

1:28:59 ↗ additional motion you think it's

1:29:00 ↗ appropriate additional questions it's

1:29:04 ↗ more interesting seeking clarity first

1:29:06 ↗ of all all of the funds we're talking

1:29:08 ↗ about would be coming from REIT so it's

1:29:11 ↗ not in the formula to balance the

1:29:13 ↗ general fund for 2020 that's my that's

1:29:16 ↗ my understanding that hence Mike and and

1:29:18 ↗ then so and then city administrator Bob

1:29:20 ↗ quits did I hear you say that we could

1:29:30 ↗ authorize this project but find all the

1:29:36 ↗ money elsewhere later well this is a 19

1:29:41 ↗ project so we're going to have to as I

1:29:44 ↗ think we've heard from us over many

1:29:46 ↗ weeks we're gonna have to go through a

1:29:48 ↗ process to balance 19 and so if this is

1:29:51 ↗ a part of the process to balance 19 I

1:29:54 ↗ would ask Public Works operations

1:29:56 ↗ already don't believe they're gonna

1:29:57 ↗ spend the money on any other purposes as

1:30:00 ↗ we sit here now toward the end of

1:30:01 ↗ October so that money that money will be

1:30:04 ↗ available to help balance the budget so

1:30:07 ↗ again for 19 not for 20 but for 19 so if

1:30:12 ↗ you wish to move forward you could

1:30:13 ↗ authorize moving forward with the

1:30:14 ↗ contract we then can come back to you

1:30:16 ↗ with a fourth-quarter adjustment it's a

1:30:20 ↗ for the cost for questions

1:30:28 ↗ it's not Goodman I was gonna make a

1:30:30 ↗ motion if thrown any more questions hey

1:30:32 ↗ I would move to award the construction

1:30:35 ↗ contract to Titan earthwork LLC for the

1:30:37 ↗ amount of three hundred and seventy two

1:30:38 ↗ thousand three hundred eighty five

1:30:40 ↗ dollars including sales tax and direct

1:30:42 ↗ the finance director to include seventy

1:30:44 ↗ thousand six hundred ninety dollars from

1:30:46 ↗ the I TS traffic signal system fund

1:30:47 ↗ balance and one hundred and twenty five

1:30:49 ↗ thousand six hundred and thirteen

1:30:50 ↗ dollars from the remaining budget of the

1:30:53 ↗ 2019 pavement management program in a

1:30:56 ↗ subsequent twenty nineteen budget

1:30:58 ↗ amendment for a second second it's been

1:31:03 ↗ moved and seconded is there any council

1:31:05 ↗ discussion what's my Goodman I made the

1:31:09 ↗ motion and you know maybe there will be

1:31:17 ↗ proposed amendments by fellow ultimen

1:31:21 ↗ verse which would be just fine

1:31:22 ↗ but I guess my general comment is I

1:31:24 ↗ really are we really thinking about

1:31:27 ↗ going backwards in terms of traffic

1:31:30 ↗ camera technology and my my thought is

1:31:33 ↗ no I can't imagine that we're just gonna

1:31:35 ↗ not no upgrade when we need to upgrade

1:31:40 ↗ so I appreciate city administrator's

1:31:43 ↗ comments about this is 2019 and we can

1:31:46 ↗ figure out some way to balance the 2019

1:31:48 ↗ budget we do have a very very healthy

1:31:50 ↗ fund balance and so I am in it could be

1:31:56 ↗ persuaded otherwise but at this point I

1:31:58 ↗ would be I am convinced that we need to

1:32:02 ↗ move this project forward and I think

1:32:06 ↗ the second the threshold issue is

1:32:08 ↗ whether we want to go ahead and upgrade

1:32:10 ↗ the cameras I think the second issue if

1:32:11 ↗ the answer is yes is then how we do that

1:32:13 ↗ budget wise that's why I moved to made

1:32:16 ↗ the motion councilmember Walsh

1:32:19 ↗ councilmember hunt council president

1:32:20 ↗ Mart's so on that realm I agree

1:32:24 ↗ note with assessment number one is yes

1:32:28 ↗ the cameras are very important I think

1:32:30 ↗ this is fantastic to get an IP system

1:32:33 ↗ versus analog I think it provides

1:32:37 ↗ fantastic service for the city and our

1:32:40 ↗ residents my concern initially was

1:32:44 ↗ hair.we paving fewer roads just because

1:32:47 ↗ we have to put this out to bid and so I

1:32:50 ↗ think in the future I'm going to want to

1:32:52 ↗ have a conversation about how we can

1:32:55 ↗ utilize all of our pavement management

1:32:57 ↗ funds for paving even if we get great

1:33:02 ↗ bids and save money so I'm guess I'm

1:33:12 ↗ supporting this because we've gotten a

1:33:16 ↗ good conversation about hey let's look

1:33:19 ↗ at other fund options and knowing that

1:33:23 ↗ this will somewhat just be coming from

1:33:26 ↗ REIT Thank You councilmember hunt

1:33:32 ↗ I'm also supporting this I think that

1:33:36 ↗ the argument is very clear from a public

1:33:38 ↗ safety standpoint these are the cameras

1:33:40 ↗ are used by police officers as well as

1:33:42 ↗ an emergency response and that's one of

1:33:44 ↗ our core responsibilities as a city is

1:33:47 ↗ to provide that public safety services

1:33:49 ↗ so I think the argument is very clear as

1:33:52 ↗ well as that it's used for communication

1:33:53 ↗ it's one of the most viewed webpages on

1:33:56 ↗ our city website so I think for

1:33:58 ↗ providing that transparency it's also

1:34:00 ↗ important and then as to the funding

1:34:03 ↗ mechanism the one thing that occurs to

1:34:05 ↗ me is we do have impact fees and I I

1:34:09 ↗ wonder as this is in the capital

1:34:11 ↗ improvement plan if it's possible also

1:34:14 ↗ those fees I believe sometimes they're

1:34:16 ↗ expiring I wonder if there's an

1:34:17 ↗ opportunity to use those there so as we

1:34:19 ↗ consider what's eligible for this in

1:34:22 ↗ terms of getting some flexibility in the

1:34:24 ↗ budget that would be one further

1:34:26 ↗ question I had generally in support and

1:34:30 ↗ I think the argument for why we should

1:34:32 ↗ have these cameras and that they be

1:34:35 ↗ secure is clear thank you council

1:34:38 ↗ president Mart so I'm gonna vote no this

1:34:40 ↗ evening because I would like to see us

1:34:45 ↗ remove the current system and create a

1:34:48 ↗ new system from the ground up

1:34:50 ↗ that would be that would you that would

1:34:53 ↗ be indicative of what can be done with

1:34:55 ↗ current technology I don't find I find

1:34:59 ↗ the list of ways that use the cameras I

1:35:03 ↗ just don't see it if we cared about

1:35:06 ↗ storm monitoring we put cameras at

1:35:08 ↗ either the top of squawk Mountain or the

1:35:11 ↗ top of the Highlands where we would

1:35:12 ↗ actually see where the snowfall was if

1:35:16 ↗ we cared about flooding we put cameras

1:35:19 ↗ where the creek is so that we can see

1:35:21 ↗ flooding at the creeks signal timing I

1:35:25 ↗ since I started on council 10 years ago

1:35:28 ↗ we've said the benefit would be

1:35:30 ↗ integrating with the state in the county

1:35:32 ↗ and the inner changes around exits 15

1:35:34 ↗ and 17 that's where the benefit would be

1:35:37 ↗ an automated system that would time our

1:35:39 ↗ lights to their lights we've been

1:35:40 ↗ talking about it for a decade this is

1:35:43 ↗ yet another band-aid on a system I'm I'm

1:35:46 ↗ glad that 5,300 people look at it but we

1:35:49 ↗ could be doing so much better we don't

1:35:51 ↗ currently take advantage of the Google

1:35:54 ↗ traffic information that's available out

1:35:57 ↗ there to adapt to what we're doing I

1:36:00 ↗ believe that the next major step that

1:36:01 ↗ Google will take with Google Maps will

1:36:03 ↗ be integrating webcams so we're gonna

1:36:06 ↗ have start being communities are going

1:36:09 ↗ to start having access to more cameras

1:36:11 ↗ through some of these integrated

1:36:13 ↗ web-based technologies and I would like

1:36:15 ↗ to see us come back in a couple of years

1:36:17 ↗ or even a year and when the eken 20

1:36:22 ↗ budget situation is a little bit better

1:36:24 ↗ use this opportunity to pause reset and

1:36:27 ↗ come up with a system that really

1:36:28 ↗ reflects the needs of our community I

1:36:31 ↗ don't think this and I'm sorry I just

1:36:34 ↗ have to say I don't I don't see it's

1:36:37 ↗ just strange it strains credulity that

1:36:40 ↗ we can track subjects on foot with the

1:36:42 ↗ timing of these cameras maybe once or

1:36:46 ↗ twice we get lucky but if you look at

1:36:48 ↗ the locations of these cameras I just

1:36:50 ↗ don't believe that that's having an

1:36:51 ↗ impact on public safety so I'm gonna

1:36:54 ↗ vote no this evening Thank You deputy

1:36:57 ↗ council president Batista followed by

1:36:58 ↗ councilmember Ray

1:37:01 ↗ so I I am going to vote in favor of

1:37:08 ↗ going forward and somewhat reluctantly

1:37:12 ↗ the I feel like we're at a place where

1:37:17 ↗ we're right up against a really

1:37:19 ↗ important deadline and I wish we weren't

1:37:22 ↗ there in turn I mean they're the the

1:37:24 ↗ tough the tough piece about this well I

1:37:26 ↗ completely agree with and understand

1:37:29 ↗ some of the comments from council

1:37:32 ↗ president Mart's we need to go forward

1:37:36 ↗ the cameras I feel are important in

1:37:39 ↗ terms of Public Safety and we're running

1:37:43 ↗ up against the windows 7 issue and that

1:37:47 ↗ is going to create a security problem so

1:37:50 ↗ I I feel like we're going we'll need to

1:37:54 ↗ go forward I have a couple of comments

1:37:57 ↗ one is that I just don't know what we

1:38:01 ↗ could have done you know kind of looking

1:38:03 ↗ backwards which is never a great way to

1:38:05 ↗ go but to not push up against this

1:38:08 ↗ timeline that we probably knew was

1:38:11 ↗ coming with with Microsoft no longer

1:38:15 ↗ supporting the software and also if

1:38:18 ↗ there would have been a potential option

1:38:20 ↗ in the past if we knew that we could do

1:38:24 ↗ things in house up to 116 thousand

1:38:27 ↗ dollars or whatever that number was to

1:38:31 ↗ do a piece of it over a couple of years

1:38:34 ↗ so we weren't right up against we've got

1:38:37 ↗ to do all this you know right now right

1:38:39 ↗ as as the software issue is coming up so

1:38:43 ↗ I'm supporting this I wish we were in a

1:38:46 ↗ different spot but this has to do with

1:38:49 ↗ 2019 and and I think we'll be able to to

1:38:52 ↗ find what we need

1:38:53 ↗ Thank You counsel memory I agree with

1:38:58 ↗ council president Mart's almost

1:39:00 ↗ completely except in one area I believe

1:39:03 ↗ that this is a band-aid but I also think

1:39:06 ↗ it's a band-aid we need to apply I'm

1:39:10 ↗ struck with a couple of other things one

1:39:11 ↗ is if you look at the map there

1:39:14 ↗ a couple of really grossly underserved

1:39:15 ↗ communities in our in our city the South

1:39:20 ↗ Cove or South Lake Sammamish

1:39:21 ↗ neighborhoods no cameras a newport way

1:39:25 ↗ no cameras

1:39:26 ↗ the Tallis neighborhood 17th /sr 901

1:39:31 ↗ camera so I think that there's an

1:39:34 ↗ opportunity for better coverage as we

1:39:36 ↗ move forward I really wish that we would

1:39:38 ↗ take advantage of these needed upgrades

1:39:42 ↗ to not make incremental changes but as

1:39:44 ↗ council members of President March I

1:39:46 ↗ think is suggesting is that we look for

1:39:48 ↗ making taking advantage of these

1:39:49 ↗ opportunities to make significant leaps

1:39:51 ↗ forward this is an opportunity we should

1:39:54 ↗ have cashed in on to start looking at

1:39:57 ↗ next-generation intelligence signaling

1:40:00 ↗ not doing what we're doing but with

1:40:03 ↗ higher resolution because it doesn't

1:40:05 ↗ really improve the outcome as I see it

1:40:09 ↗ so I can get behind supporting this

1:40:14 ↗ contract I just wish we had done it

1:40:16 ↗ differently because we I think we missed

1:40:17 ↗ an opportunity to really do something

1:40:20 ↗ significant Thank You councilmember

1:40:24 ↗ Tennessee who has talked we are gonna go

1:40:27 ↗ to winter Stein and then wash we have

1:40:33 ↗ fourteen months let's take the time and

1:40:38 ↗ look at this again and figure it out in

1:40:41 ↗ the 14 months we have including a

1:40:42 ↗ possibility of a spending plan that

1:40:45 ↗ spreads the cost across the true

1:40:50 ↗ departments and the way we're using it

1:40:51 ↗ so I don't think we should go forward

1:40:54 ↗ I'm going to vote against this

1:40:55 ↗ resolution this motion because and my

1:40:58 ↗ ask would be to go back and rethink

1:41:02 ↗ these funding sources and take a look at

1:41:04 ↗ the opportunity to perhaps optimize it

1:41:09 ↗ for the uses where they are and what

1:41:11 ↗ would be the best work with a clerk with

1:41:13 ↗ a budget that would actually meet the

1:41:18 ↗ needs that we've identified perhaps

1:41:20 ↗ better than we have right now so I think

1:41:22 ↗ we have time and we should take that

1:41:23 ↗ time

1:41:24 ↗ or a very tight time across the board

1:41:26 ↗ and I think this is a good example of an

1:41:27 ↗ issue where we're not going to lose

1:41:30 ↗ anything there on Windows 7 now they get

1:41:33 ↗ the vulnerability now that's not going

1:41:34 ↗ to change that's that's the way it is

1:41:37 ↗ right now be through the end of next

1:41:39 ↗ year so let's take that time and and

1:41:41 ↗ come up with a better plan that's my

1:41:43 ↗ Ross followed by councilmember hunt

1:41:45 ↗ so these are some compelling arguments

1:41:49 ↗ and I think my position on that has

1:41:51 ↗ changed as far as a concept of what

1:41:55 ↗ could we be doing here

1:41:57 ↗ because this is a an upgrade as far as

1:42:00 ↗ cameras but what is what is that serving

1:42:05 ↗ for the community and could we be taking

1:42:07 ↗ this as a leap forward rather than a

1:42:10 ↗ step so thank you

1:42:12 ↗ that's my Brad I I also appreciate the

1:42:18 ↗ counter arguments are raised by council

1:42:22 ↗ president Mart's I think that I don't

1:42:25 ↗ think we have as pressing a deadline

1:42:29 ↗ because we we will have another regular

1:42:32 ↗ meeting even if we wanted to proceed

1:42:35 ↗ with the contract without the contract

1:42:38 ↗ expiring we could do this in another

1:42:40 ↗ meeting I think also this conversation

1:42:42 ↗ is partly a product of that we didn't

1:42:46 ↗ have account I we didn't have a

1:42:48 ↗ committee meeting and so this

1:42:50 ↗ conversation has sounds it a lot like a

1:42:52 ↗ large committee meeting and that's

1:42:54 ↗ partly a product of having recently

1:42:55 ↗ transitioned away from committee

1:42:57 ↗ meetings to study sessions but this was

1:42:59 ↗ the first touch for Council on this

1:43:01 ↗ issue and so we've raised a bunch of

1:43:03 ↗ questions and in the committee structure

1:43:05 ↗ we would have a report back with those

1:43:07 ↗ questions so I as a as a fan of making

1:43:11 ↗ sure that we answer all our questions

1:43:12 ↗ and also since we do have the second

1:43:14 ↗ meeting I think we do have the

1:43:16 ↗ opportunity even with the current

1:43:18 ↗ contract before it expires to discuss

1:43:19 ↗ this or make a decision at the next

1:43:21 ↗ meeting I would also be in favor and I

1:43:25 ↗ would just like to know all the options

1:43:26 ↗ both for the funding as well as for the

1:43:28 ↗ technology taking into account that

1:43:31 ↗ maybe we could have a different

1:43:36 ↗ for an outcome if we better understood

1:43:38 ↗ our options

1:43:40 ↗ that's my Goodman what would be the Matt

1:43:44 ↗ this is probably this the the clerk of

1:43:46 ↗ the city attorney what would be because

1:43:47 ↗ it seems like I've heard from again I

1:43:50 ↗ made the motion so we can start having

1:43:51 ↗ some discussion what would be the

1:43:53 ↗ mechanism for deferring this to future

1:43:58 ↗ meeting withdraw the motion and have

1:44:00 ↗ their gender bill come back or what you

1:44:02 ↗ could postpone there could be a motion

1:44:03 ↗ to postpone this to the next regular

1:44:06 ↗ council meeting okay madam mayor if I

1:44:10 ↗ may

1:44:11 ↗ we're just trying to sort through the

1:44:13 ↗ budgeting piece of this because again

1:44:15 ↗ this is something that's budgeted in

1:44:16 ↗ 2019 there is no budget for any of this

1:44:19 ↗ in 2020 right and so the the I TS is a

1:44:25 ↗ fund and so that money could be carried

1:44:27 ↗ over as fund balance the pavement

1:44:29 ↗ management money is not so any money

1:44:30 ↗ that we were picking up to help make up

1:44:33 ↗ the difference would not be available in

1:44:34 ↗ 2020 at least as the budget is currently

1:44:36 ↗ configured so perhaps it does make sense

1:44:40 ↗ to continue the item so that we can deal

1:44:43 ↗ with the budget issues so we can make

1:44:45 ↗ sure that there's at least money

1:44:46 ↗ available to continue the programmatic

1:44:48 ↗ discussion so that you don't come back

1:44:50 ↗ then at the beginning of the year and we

1:44:52 ↗ tell you sorry there's no money do any

1:44:54 ↗ of us because I think that defeats the

1:44:55 ↗ purpose of the discussion you just all

1:44:57 ↗ had and I might check in with the

1:45:00 ↗ council on one thing as well I heard two

1:45:02 ↗ different things there one was the

1:45:03 ↗ funding sources concern and I think that

1:45:06 ↗ is something that if we continue you'd

1:45:08 ↗ be able to get an answer to the larger

1:45:10 ↗ question is whether or not this is the

1:45:12 ↗ technology you want to make your

1:45:14 ↗ investment in or if you want to look at

1:45:16 ↗ something else I don't believe that's an

1:45:18 ↗ answer that you can get at the next

1:45:20 ↗ meeting and so I'm not sure how you want

1:45:23 ↗ to resolve the two of those if it's just

1:45:25 ↗ going to be about funding services

1:45:26 ↗ continuing is a good idea if it's

1:45:28 ↗ scrapping and going with something new

1:45:30 ↗ that's going to be a longer amount of

1:45:34 ↗ time to determine what that would be and

1:45:36 ↗ potentially a budget adjustment in the

1:45:38 ↗ 2020 proposed budget to cover what that

1:45:41 ↗ might be

1:45:41 ↗ so what are your thoughts on that

1:45:46 ↗ and so remember winters that thank you

1:45:57 ↗ take the time between now and then my

1:45:59 ↗ request would be to do an exercise not

1:46:04 ↗ only on the funding but also you know

1:46:10 ↗ get the bright minds together in one

1:46:13 ↗ room and ask yourselves a question like

1:46:16 ↗ what would it take to take another look

1:46:19 ↗ at the design and the deployment what

1:46:22 ↗ would be the timing can we still do all

1:46:24 ↗ that you know what's the possibility we

1:46:27 ↗ could do that before the end of 2020 so

1:46:30 ↗ I would expect someone to come back in a

1:46:31 ↗ couple weeks and saying here's another

1:46:33 ↗ funding option but if you still didn't

1:46:35 ↗ even want to do that like yes we could

1:46:38 ↗ we probably have enough window between

1:46:40 ↗ now and the end of 2020 to do something

1:46:42 ↗ or no I don't think we have enough time

1:46:44 ↗ between the and now between now in the

1:46:46 ↗ end of 2020 that's what I would and I

1:46:48 ↗ would take that into consideration if we

1:46:50 ↗ were to vote on a motion at the next

1:46:52 ↗ business meeting maybe a little

1:46:54 ↗ president patís well and the the one

1:46:57 ↗ question that that it's not completely

1:46:59 ↗ clear we're talking about we have an

1:47:03 ↗ existing system and we're looking to

1:47:05 ↗ upgrade it once it's upgraded if we were

1:47:10 ↗ to add some of the capabilities that

1:47:12 ↗ we're talking about adding do we have

1:47:14 ↗ the potential to add on to that system

1:47:16 ↗ or do we have a clear and definitive

1:47:18 ↗ answer that nope that would be a

1:47:20 ↗ completely different system and that

1:47:22 ↗ that's a huge question for me as I'm

1:47:27 ↗ looking at this and I don't know if we

1:47:28 ↗ have the answer to that tonight we don't

1:47:35 ↗ at council president Mertz so for me to

1:47:39 ↗ get to yes would require understanding a

1:47:44 ↗ path to what I think would actually have

1:47:47 ↗ a significant impact on the community

1:47:50 ↗ which is integrating getting the IDS up

1:47:52 ↗ to speed where we would and I don't

1:47:54 ↗ expect to get the EITS up to speed today

1:47:56 ↗ or tomorrow or next week or next month

1:47:58 ↗ but what would be the path to getting

1:48:01 ↗ IDs up and integrated with interchanges

1:48:04 ↗ 15 and 17 that would have I believe a

1:48:08 ↗ substantial impact particularly exit 15

1:48:11 ↗ and the surrounding streets and then the

1:48:14 ↗ other parts is the the two areas of

1:48:16 ↗ Public Safety where I think cameras

1:48:18 ↗ could be important

1:48:19 ↗ which is potential flooding and I you

1:48:24 ↗ know this community the weather is so

1:48:27 ↗ altitude dependent do not have any

1:48:29 ↗ cameras at the top of squawk or talus or

1:48:32 ↗ from my friend my friends in Dallas or

1:48:35 ↗ in the highlands we do ourselves a huge

1:48:37 ↗ disservice to understanding what's going

1:48:39 ↗ on at any given time and I say this is

1:48:41 ↗ someone I lose 300 feet below the table

1:48:43 ↗ squawk so for me to get to yes I would

1:48:46 ↗ need to know in these three big areas

1:48:48 ↗ the I TS emergency you know down the

1:48:52 ↗ road how would we get to having a better

1:48:55 ↗ handle using our system for emergencies

1:48:58 ↗ and using it for weather response that's

1:49:00 ↗ that's what we take for me to get to yes

1:49:01 ↗ I can't summary interestingly enough the

1:49:07 ↗ most compelling thing that I heard

1:49:09 ↗ tonight in making this decision was that

1:49:12 ↗ we are good on windows 7 and security

1:49:16 ↗ patches through the end of next year we

1:49:17 ↗ don't have something that is on fire we

1:49:19 ↗ have time to think about this and give

1:49:22 ↗ this a more circumspect look so I'm not

1:49:26 ↗ concerned so much about the funding

1:49:28 ↗ strategy because I have great faith in

1:49:29 ↗ in our city administrator and our city

1:49:32 ↗ finance director they will come up with

1:49:33 ↗ a funding strategy that makes sense what

1:49:36 ↗ I don't want to do is for us to make

1:49:37 ↗ this a three hundred and some odd

1:49:39 ↗ thousand dollar investment and say gee I

1:49:41 ↗ wish we had done that differently and I

1:49:43 ↗ think we have time to revisit that so

1:49:45 ↗ for me you know bringing back in two

1:49:48 ↗ weeks if we're gonna bring back the same

1:49:49 ↗ solution with a different funding

1:49:51 ↗ package that doesn't do anything really

1:49:53 ↗ helpful for me what would do something

1:49:55 ↗ to move me would be to say look we're

1:49:59 ↗ we've got to replace our traffic cams

1:50:01 ↗ and we're going to take a leap forward

1:50:04 ↗ and we're going to next generation that

1:50:07 ↗ I think as council president Mart said

1:50:08 ↗ really makes a difference for the people

1:50:10 ↗ who live here I counsel member Goodman

1:50:14 ↗ so what are the options for the motion

1:50:16 ↗ then if so not sure we have the

1:50:22 ↗ information that we'll need for

1:50:23 ↗ if we could take a five-minute break to

1:50:26 ↗ let the administration team talk about

1:50:28 ↗ options so we give you the full suite

1:50:30 ↗ okay so we'll take a five-minute break

1:50:45 ↗ you

1:59:35 ↗ [Music]

1:59:36 ↗ we are back from our recess and I'm

1:59:40 ↗ going to have city administrator babka

1:59:42 ↗ wits go over system some suggestions for

1:59:45 ↗ Action Council madam mayor members of

1:59:48 ↗ the council I think what we've heard is

1:59:50 ↗ a number of things one is that these

1:59:53 ↗ cameras are important to that they're

1:59:56 ↗ important now and into the future and we

1:59:59 ↗ want and that the council wants to make

2:00:00 ↗ sure that any investment we make today

2:00:02 ↗ is an investment that will continue to

2:00:04 ↗ serve us well into the future and then

2:00:07 ↗ also what is the future what can we do

2:00:09 ↗ in the future to leverage existing

2:00:12 ↗ technologies in addition to the video

2:00:14 ↗ technology to make traffic move better

2:00:17 ↗ in Issaquah as well as all the other

2:00:19 ↗ benefits that we get from these systems

2:00:21 ↗ so that's what we've heard you say

2:00:22 ↗ tonight what we would like to do is come

2:00:25 ↗ back on November 4th and we believe

2:00:28 ↗ between now and then we can look at some

2:00:30 ↗ additional budget options for the

2:00:32 ↗ current year should the council wish to

2:00:33 ↗ move forward with the purchase of the

2:00:35 ↗ cameras we can go back to members of our

2:00:39 ↗ staff we've been working closely on this

2:00:41 ↗ and talk about the interoperability

2:00:44 ↗ issue new systems that are coming online

2:00:47 ↗ still need video feeds we need to be

2:00:50 ↗ able to answer the question will these

2:00:52 ↗ cameras serve those systems because the

2:00:54 ↗ the next piece of what is the future

2:00:56 ↗ what additional systems we want to put

2:00:58 ↗ in place that's a large ticket item that

2:01:02 ↗ we are not going to be able to give you

2:01:03 ↗ answers for as you do your 2020 budget

2:01:06 ↗ deliberations but my sense is is that if

2:01:09 ↗ we can come back with a better financing

2:01:11 ↗ plan for 19 and talked a little bit

2:01:14 ↗ about how these video feeds could be

2:01:16 ↗ used in the future with additional

2:01:19 ↗ investment that hopefully that would

2:01:21 ↗ satisfy many of your concerns you

2:01:24 ↗ mentioned that there are cameras on

2:01:26 ↗ Peaks that are contemplated in the midst

2:01:29 ↗ of this could you share that information

2:01:31 ↗ as well yeah we the end of last year are

2:01:35 ↗ really in February we decided that we

2:01:40 ↗ needed cameras at the higher elevations

2:01:41 ↗ we have them purchased we have all the

2:01:44 ↗ equipment for it on top of squawk talus

2:01:48 ↗ Montreux Highlands we are working on

2:01:51 ↗ getting power from PSC they're going

2:01:55 ↗ through new new regulations with the

2:01:57 ↗ small sell stuff so we're working with

2:01:59 ↗ pout trying to get power to them

2:02:01 ↗ currently so that's separate from the

2:02:04 ↗ item this bet is separate from this yes

2:02:06 ↗ so so if the council chooses to move

2:02:09 ↗ forward with this at at a later point

2:02:11 ↗ those cameras that you just described

2:02:13 ↗ are already going to be in your system

2:02:15 ↗ and they will be the digital cameras

2:02:17 ↗ correct so so madam mayor council

2:02:20 ↗ president would ask us that the council

2:02:23 ↗ consider continuing this item to

2:02:25 ↗ November 4th I have a question for the

2:02:27 ↗ city clerk we have a motion that's

2:02:29 ↗ moving seconds on the table does that

2:02:31 ↗ have to be dealt with or can we have a

2:02:33 ↗ motion just to continue to date certain

2:02:36 ↗ you someone can make a motion to

2:02:39 ↗ postpone the motion that's pending to

2:02:42 ↗ the November 4th council meeting that

2:02:44 ↗ would be the proper procedure and then

2:02:47 ↗ the motion to clarify when you come back

2:02:50 ↗ on the 4th this motion will be live and

2:02:53 ↗ so at that point you could have an

2:02:55 ↗ opportunity to amend it withdraw it vote

2:02:58 ↗ on it as is etc Goodman is the maker of

2:03:04 ↗ the motion I would like to move that we

2:03:06 ↗ does it continue move to postpone to

2:03:09 ↗ postpone to November 4th please okay it

2:03:12 ↗ moved and seconded I said a couple of

2:03:14 ↗ hands go up no okay no questions about

2:03:17 ↗ the motion all those in favor signify by

2:03:20 ↗ saying aye aye host that passes

2:03:23 ↗ unanimously

2:03:24 ↗ any other business that we have to do

2:03:27 ↗ with that to share are we done awesome

2:03:29 ↗ the next item on the agenda this evening

2:03:31 ↗ is good of the order and do council

2:03:33 ↗ members have anything for good of the

2:03:35 ↗ order I have one item just waiting to

2:03:40 ↗ see if anybody else does okay the one

2:03:43 ↗ item that I had was this afternoon

2:03:46 ↗ I was able to send out an email about

2:03:48 ↗ the sound cities Association's annual

2:03:50 ↗ appointment process and provided some

2:03:53 ↗ information on what council president

2:03:56 ↗ Mart's and I were able to discuss last

2:03:58 ↗ week on some priority seats that we

2:04:00 ↗ would like to

2:04:01 ↗ see city of Issaquah applying for the

2:04:03 ↗ spreadsheet shows you which ones are the

2:04:05 ↗ priorities who currently holds it or

2:04:08 ↗ might be moving off and a description of

2:04:10 ↗ what that committee scope of work is and

2:04:14 ↗ also date time location of meeting and

2:04:17 ↗ also a link to the full list of

2:04:20 ↗ appointments because I know some of you

2:04:22 ↗ may be interested in other appointments

2:04:23 ↗ as well I just wanted to point that out

2:04:25 ↗ too that it was there the due dates are

2:04:27 ↗ November 6th we're hoping to have all of

2:04:29 ↗ the information packaged together by

2:04:31 ↗ october 31st and sent off to fda and if

2:04:35 ↗ you have any questions please let me

2:04:38 ↗ know I think that was all that I had

2:04:40 ↗ Vicki you did not our councilmember hunt

2:04:42 ↗ you did not require any more you provide

2:04:44 ↗ any more information on the CWA tuneups

2:04:48 ↗ true ups unless requested right I just

2:04:52 ↗ wanted to clarify if anybody had a

2:04:54 ↗ question great but try to take it thank

2:04:56 ↗ you

2:04:57 ↗ anything else for good of the order

2:05:00 ↗ upcoming council meetings on October

2:05:02 ↗ 22nd tomorrow there is a council study

2:05:05 ↗ session at 6:30 p.m. in Council Chambers

2:05:07 ↗ the agenda items are a transit-oriented

2:05:10 ↗ development project the 2020 legislative

2:05:12 ↗ agenda and utility rates on October 23rd

2:05:16 ↗ there is the oft mentioned this evening

2:05:19 ↗ budget study session at 6:30 p.m.

2:05:21 ↗ proposed 2020 budget deliberations

2:05:24 ↗ October 28th another budget study

2:05:27 ↗ session at 6:30 p.m. and council

2:05:29 ↗ chambers and on November 4th a regular

2:05:31 ↗ council meeting at 7:00 p.m.

2:05:33 ↗ potential agenda items are this right i

2:05:37 ↗ TS traffic cameras a regional coalition

2:05:42 ↗ of for housing arch update sports

2:05:45 ↗ combine update interlocal agreements

2:05:48 ↗ with respect to the p fast study 2020

2:05:51 ↗ level levee and revenue sources

2:05:53 ↗ introduction of potential revenue

2:05:55 ↗ sources for the 2020 budget including

2:05:58 ↗ utility attacks cemetery fees and Parks

2:06:00 ↗ and Recreation fees there is no

2:06:04 ↗ executive session this evening so there

2:06:07 ↗ being no further business this meeting

2:06:08 ↗ is adjourned at

2:06:09 ↗ no six

2:06:18 ↗ you

2:06:22 ↗ you

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Mariah Bettise

Stacy Goodman

Victoria Hunt

Tola Marts

Chris Reh

Lindsey Walsh

Paul Winterstein

Motions and votes (4)

Continue the public hearing to the Nov. 4, 2019 Council meeting. . c)

Moved by WINTERSTEIN · seconded by BETTISE

Carried 7-0

In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein

Award the construction contract to Titan Earthwork LLC for the amount of $372,385 (including sales tax); and direct the Finance Director to include $70,690 from the ITS Traffic Signal System Fund balance and $125,613 from the remaining budget of the 2019 Pavement Management Program in a subsequent 2…

Moved by GOODMAN · seconded by BETTISE

Postpone the motion to the Nov. 4 Council meeting. .

Moved by GOODMAN · seconded by BETTISE

Carried 7-0

In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein

APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. a) ID 0396 - Accounts: Payables and Payroll of Oct. 21, 2019, $ 3,898,835.56; Approved. b) Minutes: City Council Regular Meeting, Oct. 7, 2019; Approved. c) Minutes: Council Budget Study Session, Oct. 7, 2019; Approved. d) Minutes: City Council Special Meetin…

Moved by MARTS · seconded by BETTISE

Carried 7-0

In favor: Mariah Bettise, Stacy Goodman, Victoria Hunt, Tola Marts, Chris Reh, Lindsey Walsh, Paul Winterstein