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e e
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Saturday sorry it says red
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I'll call the November 21st
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2016 Council regular meeting to order
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and ask all of all of those who would
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like to join the council and myself and
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the pledge of allegiance to please
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stand I pledge allegiance to the flag of
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the United States of America and to the
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Republic for which it stands one nation
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under God indivisible
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and justice for
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all we have two items under special
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business a proclamation recognizing Dr
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Raven Lewis CEO Swedish isqua and a
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proclamation recognizing the ISA high
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school girls cross country team uh Dr
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raybor if you would join me at the lect
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please
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I'm sure I get the right
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one I used to run cross country too but
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these girls could probably be
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me I think you're
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right so here's a proclamation whereas
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raber Lewis MD is a board certified
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Internal Medicine physician who has been
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a member of Swedish medical staff since
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198 84 and has served in his current
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role as Chief Executive Officer of
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Swedish esqua since 2014 and whereas Dr
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Lewis has served as CEO of the city's
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first communitybased hospital a facility
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that is deeply integrated into the
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community and dedicated to serving the
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residents of isqua and whereas Dr Lewis
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attended medical school and completed
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his residency at the University of
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Washington school of medicine and she
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and achieved management certification
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through the VHA Physicians leadership
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program at the College of William and
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Mary and whereas Dr Lewis is a member of
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the King County Medical Society the
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American College of physician Executives
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a past Trustee of both the Washington
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State Medical Association and the Puget
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Sound blood center Board of trusties and
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currently president of the Washington
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State Association of black Professionals
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in healthc care and whereas Dr Lewis has
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been active in youth Fitness for more
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than 25 years including involvement with
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Seattle's Urban 4 and the Cascade
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Bicycle Club uh uh May or Taylor project
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and whereas Dr Lewis has worked
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tirelessly over the past two years
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developing a local mental health high
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school program and his efforts have
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resed resulted in a Swedish social
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worker at each of isqua's high school
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campuses to support and Foster students
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mental health and whereas Dr Lewis was
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instrumental in helping Swedish esquad
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Chief status as a high level containment
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unit during the ebo Ebola outbreak one
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of only seven in the region to achieve
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that status and whereas Swedish isqua
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plans to carry Dr Lewis's efforts
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forward by continuing to be part of the
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isqua Chamber of Commerce supporting
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isqua salmon days and supporting efforts
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for improved transportation and whereas
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Dr Lewis is retiring he will continue to
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be part of the fabric of isqua and may
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be spotted at one of his favorite spots
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the university house where he enjoys
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having lunch with his 100 yearold
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motherin-law
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now therefore I Fred Butler mayor of the
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city of isquad do hereby Proclaim
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November 21st 2016 to be Dr Raburn Lewis
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day in the city of viqua I call upon the
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citizens of isqua to join in recognizing
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and expressing their appreciation for
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the dedication and service by Dr Lewis
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to our city in witness whereof I here
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and two set my hand in steal of the city
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of Isa this 21st day of November
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2016 thank
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[Music]
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youis I'm not going to let your hand go
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just
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yet you have really been instrumental
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and a lot of different things in our
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community and when I mentioned the you
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know we have become the fabric in our
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community uh we are delighted to have
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one of the first new hospitals in the
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state of Washington here in our
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community and Swedish isqua has an
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outstanding uh reputation and certainly
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a fine professional staff that you have
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helped nurtur well thank you R thank you
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very very much thank you let me give you
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a big hug
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[Applause]
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okay young ladies come on
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down and uh Gwen Robertson uh
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coach just just come right over here
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let's there the gosh yes I mentioned a
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little while ago you you all all look
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like
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Runners I have a proclamation uh
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recognizing the esqua high school girls
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cross country team and uh there are a
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lot of where ases just like the last one
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but listen carefully to what I have to
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say because that's really the important
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part of it other than winning the for a
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state championship in Cross Country
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whereas the isqua high school girls
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cross country team won the class 4A
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title at the
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wiaa state cross country championships
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in Pasco November 5th
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2016 and where as the girls defeated the
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two-time defending champions from commas
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to win the title with a final score of
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90 to 108 with the low score winning in
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cross country and whereas the isqua
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Eagles won the King County League meet
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to qualify for state with the lowest
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point score in the history of the league
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and whereas isqua's last girls cross
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country crown came when the Eagles won
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three state titles from 1985 through
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1987 and whereas all straight
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recognition was earned by three members
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of the team and whereas all nine members
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are
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underclassman including four Junior and
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five sophomores giving isqua High School
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strong hope for a
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repeat now therefore I Fred Butler mayor
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of the city of isquad to hereby
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recognize and applaud isqua high school
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girls cross country team and I invite
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all citizens of isqua to join me in
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recognizing the team's hard work and
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outstanding skills and I further commend
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the team for being such fine
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representatives of our city and the
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isqua school district and witness
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whereof I hear and two set my hand and
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St of the city of isqua this 21st day of
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November
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2016 and so young ladies coach
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congratulations uh let's see can
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everyone get a hand on
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this all right oh look okay great
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congratulations
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and I might say that uh I see uh a large
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number of parents uh in the back
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snapping pictures and with big smiles on
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your face and I'm guessing these young
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ladies would not been able to do it
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without your support uh at home and
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certainly under uh Gwen your your
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support as coach so again thank you very
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very much for bringing this recognition
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to the city of isqua and the isqua high
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school absolutely thank you
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than you I don't know
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our next order of business is agenda
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Bill
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7278 uh growth education series uh the
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growth management act
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overview this is the first presentation
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in the city's growth education series
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these presentations are intended to
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provide the council and the public the
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opportunity to learn more about regional
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growth management including state
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requirements and Regional local efforts
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we're delighted to have a managing uh uh
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interim managing director of growth
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Management Services local government div
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division with the Washington State
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Department of Commerce and with that I
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would ask Dave Anderson to come to the
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lecton and
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uh I'm sure this will be just as much
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fun as the two proclamations that we we
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we we just presented Dave thank you I
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will thank you for coming to to isqua
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for uh uh a little bit of education on
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this important topic you're welcome it's
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my pleasure is the mic the microphone on
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right now can you you're on all
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right go ahead and get started
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here well again thank you for uh uh
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having me out here to talk to you today
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about um washing 's land use framework
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the growth management act um I'm Dave
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Anderson I'm with the Department of
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Commerce we're the part of the uh I'm
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with the growth Management Services
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office which is the part of the agency
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that works with uh local governments
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like yours on um managing growth and
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infrastructure and housing uh and all
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those good things so uh I'm going to
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start today by talking a little bit
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about why why you would have a plan uh
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every business from um the largest
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business down to someone just starting
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out a a restaurant has has a plan um
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communities throughout the United States
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uh both in rapidly growing States like
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Washington and in smaller more rural
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States they all have plans so why why
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would you want to have a plan well I
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would propose that there are there are a
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few reasons why why you'd want to have a
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plan um the first one is that land use
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decisions have long-term and largely
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permanent consequences uh for the shape
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and character of a community so you want
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to get it right um I'm always reminded
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of uh uh Dances with Wolves I don't know
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if you ever ever saw that movie but
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there's one particular scene that struck
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me is um there's a there's a buffalo
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that's charging down um a young Brave
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who's in in the middle of of a buffalo
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hunt and he he needs to stop the buffalo
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very quickly so what does he
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do he aims because he's got one shot if
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you've got one shot you aim so uh part
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of the plan is about making sure that
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you make decisions carefully um also
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many individuals have to work together
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uh and a plan is a way to coordinate it
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um it's also a way of accomplish
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something where you have to make
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persistent effort over a long period of
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time uh infrastructure projects Waters
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sewers roads they have long lead times
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and long payback periods uh they have
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life uh uh lifespans 40 years or more so
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um you need to make sure they're done
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right and lastly most importantly I
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think um the public expects transparency
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and fairness when there's a decision
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made about what investments the city is
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going to make uh where different land
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uses are going to go the public needs to
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know why uh what's the reason why these
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things are done um if you're going to
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establish a critical area buffer and
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it's going to be uh 100 feet instead of
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50 feet why um planning and the planning
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process is about supplying that answer
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to a large L degree and making sure that
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you can tie those decisions back both to
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relevant facts and to values that the
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communities articulated and that's what
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the planning process
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does so every uh every state in the
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Union has a land use framework um land
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use in America is largely governed by
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state laws so uh every state has to
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figure out uh for itself and establish
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through its own laws how we are going to
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go about doing planning and every every
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state has a framework that's a little
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bit different uh some of them were quite
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intentional others they've sort of
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wandered into but you you've got one uh
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in every state uh and and these are some
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of the things that I would propose make
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a good land use framework okay the first
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one is that the public has a voice in
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decisions uh this goes all the way back
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to the Progressive Era uh goes through
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the public open public meetings act
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through the public disclosure act uh but
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there's an opportunity for people to
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come and say their peace and when the
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public is making an important public
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decision with public consequences people
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expect uh to be able to say something uh
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again that decisions are based on
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relevant facts uh they're made in public
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based on valid public concerns uh but
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some other things is when you make a
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decision it stays made uh and you're not
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constantly going back and re revisiting
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those decisions uh but at the same time
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you've also got a process that favors
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adaptive Behavior so when conditions
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change and new information comes about
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you have a way to incorporate that into
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the process so these are all some of the
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things that go into establishing what is
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a state what is a what is a good
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framework for how we plan in a state so
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uh I want to talk in particular about
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two very specific expectations and I'm
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sure I'm sure to all of you who've been
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uh working around planning and Housing
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and Development issues in communities
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have probably heard both of these things
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the first one I need to know what I can
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do just tell me what I need to do to
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pull my permit um and the second one
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this affects my neighborhood and my home
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and I should have a say in what happens
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uh it's really this inherent tension
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between a very deliberative process um
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and one that is certain and predictable
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and has clear timelines and the public
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has an expectation for both and every
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land use framework in America and every
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state has to find some way to resolve
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these and we we have arrived at a
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particular compromise on these in
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Washington and has to do with planning
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decisions and Zoning decisions so when
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you're talking about a planning decision
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the comprehensive plan the adoption of
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the comprehensive plan there's a very
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heavy emphasis in Washington on a
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continuous deliberative process with
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lots of opportunities for public comment
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um and lots of opportunities to be
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involved very heavy emphasis on that
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when you're talking about the
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comprehensive plan in Washington now
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once the comp comprehensive plan is
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adopted in Washington there is a very
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heavy emphasis when you get to
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individual project permit decisions on
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certainty and predictability so once
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you've made that decision a deal is a
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deal it stays made when you get to the
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permit counter things move very quickly
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so if you look at pieces of Washington
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law like how are appeals of
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comprehensive plans governed versus how
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appeals of individual project decisions
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are governed you see those sorts of
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different is very very sharp dichotomy
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between those two things so that's the
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way sea applies to these two things
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operates the same way so there again
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that's a particular way that Washington
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has addressed this um it's designed to
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have very heavy emphasis up front on
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participation but then once that's done
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and once you're down in the project
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permit level uh things are designed to
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go very quickly and very
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predictably so here's Washington's
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framework and when we talk about the
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growth management act uh it's there's
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there's a particular piece of Statute
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367a um that is called the growth
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management act but the growth management
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act really works within a larger
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framework um that also includes all the
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statutes governing cities and counties
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in title 35 and 36 the local project
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review act which governs those
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permitting processes that I just talked
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about the shoreline management act that
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governs acts around shorelines the State
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Environmental Policy Act um statutes
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governing how we charge impact fees
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statutes governing water and water
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availability uh subdivision Regional
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planning those all of these are part of
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Washington's framework and they all
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exist within uh a larger uh um a larger
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umbrella of other kinds of laws that
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affect how local governments work how do
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taxes work how do special purpose
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districts operate how does annexation
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procedures work those also sort of form
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um the thing that we work in when we're
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implementing a comprehensive plan and of
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course those all uh fall within uh both
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the Washington State and the national
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Constitution so when when people are
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talking about the growth management act
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at one level they're talking about this
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very specific statute 367a that was
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adopted at this very specific point in
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time back in the early 90s but really
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what you're talking about in a large
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degree is you're talking about this
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larger framework and uh the GMA since it
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was adopted has since come to mean not
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only that one statute but it really
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means this whole set of laws that we
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work with governing all of these
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different things and when you're talking
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about both issues in planning both
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problems and solutions both of those are
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sometimes found in one particular
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section that we think of as the GMA and
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sometimes they're found within the way
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they work within this larger
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framework so how do we get here well
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this was what our framework looked like
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before uh the GMA was passed in the
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1990s okay um plans were there uh they
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were largely advisory they were very
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aspirational they weren't terribly
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constrained by resources uh and they
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didn't have a whole lot of teeth in and
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of themselves the big decisions were
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made at the permit counter the zoning
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decisions and the rezone decisions uh
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the things that were done on individual
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project permit applications they didn't
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have necessarily have to be connected
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with the comprehensive plan they were
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really kind of done on their own um and
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they were done in silos so your Capital
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facilities plan was not necessarily done
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in conjunction with the zoning um so you
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could go One Direction with your zoning
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another Direction with your Capital
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facilities plans and they were there was
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a lot of Silo a lot of Silo governance
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um the sepa decisions with all the
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hearings uh those were done on
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individual permits individual projects
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so if you had a large subdivision coming
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in that was largely a discretionary
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decision uh which means you'd have uh a
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lot of people showing up at a hearing to
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talk about that particular subdivision
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uh one of the things we found is once
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that subdivision uh was approved or not
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approved you'd have the same
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conversation all over again the next
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time a subdivision came through and then
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the next time the subdivision came
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through and then the next time the
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subdivision came through and we were
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finding that there were lots of
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arguments that never had a way to get
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resolved uh in a way that helped
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communities move forward so um here's
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sort of one of the pieces of the
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creation myth of the GMA was uh the
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faved trip uh up I5 by uh the speaker of
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the house at the time a guy named Joe
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King uh and this this is how he
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describes it um but the real take-home
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for him was looking around at the
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traffic and the development occurring
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and asking well who's really in charge
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who who's who's looking at all of this
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and realizing that there really wasn't
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anybody who was looking at all of this
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and and so the growth management Act was
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born uh in large part as a way to help
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find a way to resolve these conflicts
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that couldn't be resolved any other way
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um so we created the GMA that we have
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and I'm going to talk about uh a few
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different pieces of it I'm going to talk
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about uh what I like to call the
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differentiated landscape a term I got
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from a mentor of mine named Joe Tovar uh
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I'm going to talk about the goals of GMA
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I'm going to talk about requirements and
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I'm going to talk about roles and
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procedures and when you think of roles
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and procedures uh one of the things I
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want you to listen for and think about
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is the information flows that's a very
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important part of how public decision
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making gets made how does information
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flow from one organization to another
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and how does information flow from one
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set of decisions to another so when I've
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made this set of decisions how does that
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feed into uh and constrain or support
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the next set of decisions my community
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has to make so it all works together
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that's what I mean by information flow
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so um and the GMA uh the GMA establishes
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different kinds of land that local
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governments uh are responsible for
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designating uh and then it says the law
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is going to apply differently to these
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different types of land so kind of like
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you've got commercial and Industrial and
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residential land at the city level uh at
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the statutory level it says we're we're
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going to establish different types of or
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we're going to make a framework that has
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different types of land and then local
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governments are going to determine
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exactly where those apply within their
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community so you start with resource
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lands uh agricultural forest and mineral
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resource lands counties are obligated to
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designate these and then they're
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obligated to assure their conservation
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so that these lands that have been set
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aside for resource production can
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continue to be used uh over the long
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term for resource production um they
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established Urban lands cities towns
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Incorporated areas and unincorporated
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areas called Urban growth areas these
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are the areas where most of the growth
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is going to go because it's it's got to
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go somewhere so uh EST placing it in
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urban areas assures that it's affordable
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to provide adequate public facilities to
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those areas and then rural lands uh the
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lands that are outside of the urban
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growth areas that are not going to get
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Urban governmental Services uh but you
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still have to plan for those uh and you
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still have to establish at the county
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level uh what kind of regulations and
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what kind of densities are going to be
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in place in order to ensure that uh
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those lands can continue to persist uh
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economically viability as economically
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viable rural lands and that they
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continue to maintain uh their rural
25:41
character in terms of look and feel and
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their capacity to uh um provide
25:47
services so Urban natural resources and
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Rural
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lands so the GMA establishes goals uh
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and one of the things you'll look these
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are these are all the goals of the
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growth management act there's 14 of them
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um one of the things you may notice when
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you look at them is first there's a lot
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of them um and
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secondly if you read them carefully you
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can see how these can exist in tension
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uh and how you can have situations where
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uh really going for one goal looks like
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it may be in conflict with another goal
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so how does how does that work well uh
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the statute says that local governments
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are with their planning doc doents uh
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responsible for harmonizing these goals
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and finding a locally appropriate
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balance um which sounds uh sounds like a
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very challenging thing um what that
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basically gums down to uh in the statute
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is um there needs to be some weight to
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all of them um but you can't use the
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goals as a pretext for violating the
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clear core substi of mandates when when
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push comes to shove what we're finding
26:56
is you can't really be found out of
26:58
compliance on a goal challenge alone uh
27:01
as long as you're meeting the basic
27:02
requirements you really have a
27:03
tremendous amount of flexibility uh in
27:06
terms of how you implement the goals and
27:08
what kind of balance you give to the
27:09
goals uh and what kind of weight you
27:11
give to the goals in any particular
27:13
planning decision and it's also not
27:15
possible that you establish one perfect
27:17
balance that applies across everything
27:20
um but generally within the plan these
27:22
are the things you're generally uh uh
27:25
working for so the next thing is the
27:27
core Subs mandates um these are the
27:30
requirements you'll find in law the
27:31
things you have to do when you're
27:33
balancing the goals you don't balance
27:34
them against the core substantive
27:36
mandate so you've got to protect
27:38
critical areas um you've got to
27:40
designate and assure the conservation of
27:42
resource lands um New Growth needs to go
27:46
to Urban growth areas um you need to
27:48
provide sufficient capacity of land
27:51
suitable for development that's uh
27:53
that's the little 115 part on Urban
27:55
growth areas what that basically boils
27:57
down to is uh if you're saying in your
27:59
plan that this is the density and this
28:01
is that we expect to accommodate here
28:03
when you actually go into your
28:04
regulations you need to be actually to
28:05
be able to pull a permit for the density
28:07
you've said you're going to allow um a
28:10
lot of it it's a lot of it is a no
28:12
surprises requirement um new development
28:15
may not be allowed unless you've got
28:17
concurrency uh adequate public
28:19
facilities uh you can't preclude
28:21
essential public facilities and cities
28:23
and Counties have to provide for early
28:25
and continuous participation um those
28:28
are these are the basic core subsid of
28:30
mandates now within that um there's a
28:33
lot of regional variation and one of the
28:35
questions is well what laws apply to
28:37
which jurisdictions and although there's
28:39
largely two buckets in the state fully
28:42
planning and not fully planning when you
28:43
look at all the requirements in the
28:45
statute you can really think I think
28:47
pick out uh these four different
28:50
classifications you've got the really uh
28:52
slow growing uh counties in the rural
28:55
parts of the state I I happen to be from
28:56
Spokane so uh a lot of my neighbors are
28:59
out in this area uh you've got to
29:00
protect critical areas conserve resource
29:03
lands and you've also got the same
29:05
requirements from some of the other
29:06
pieces of the planning framework they've
29:08
got to do sea just like a big County
29:10
does they've got a they're following the
29:12
subdivision act the same way the
29:14
planning enabling act the same way um
29:16
then you've got most of the other
29:18
counties in the State uh uh about 20 24
29:21
I think of them they're the fully
29:23
planning ones they've got a set Urban
29:25
growth areas and such uh in addition to
29:27
that you've got Clark and thirston which
29:29
are fully planning jurisdictions but
29:31
they also have to do what we call the
29:33
buildable lands program uh which is an
29:35
ongoing monitoring program that all the
29:38
big Metro Counties have to do it's where
29:40
you have to on an ongoing basis look at
29:43
how much growth is occurring uh looking
29:45
at how much capacity you have uh and
29:47
assuring that you're continuing uh to
29:50
have the amount of capacity in your
29:52
community it's kind of like that
29:54
sufficient land capacity one only
29:56
there's a requirement for periodic and
29:57
ongoing reporting Clark and thirston
29:59
have to do that as well um in addition
30:02
to that you've got the central Puget
30:03
Town counties they're also buildable
30:05
lands counties but in addition to that
30:08
um they also have multi-county planning
30:10
policies uh that are established through
30:12
uh the pett sound Regional Council and
30:14
that's a responsibility for the the
30:16
central pett sound counties as well so
30:18
these are sort of the the regional
30:19
variation and as you can see uh as you
30:22
would expect in a state it flows from
30:24
the relatively sparsely populated
30:26
jurisdictions without a lot of capacity
30:28
and without a lot of growth who have a
30:30
relatively small set of requirements all
30:32
the way up to the very large High
30:34
growing Metro jurisdictions uh that have
30:36
to plan uh with a lot more rigor and
30:38
that's sort of how uh that's how the GMA
30:41
is set up uh so now I want to talk about
30:44
roles how am I doing on time Fred you've
30:47
got uh you've got about seven minutes
30:49
left okay all right so I'm going to talk
30:51
about roles and procedures and this is
30:53
the information flows thing um one of
30:55
the things you see is you see the
30:56
comprehensive plan uh and then you've
30:59
got the capital facilities development
31:01
regulations flowing in next so once
31:03
you've adopted that plan the next step
31:05
is then the comprehensive plan decisions
31:08
uh in terms of capital Investments and
31:10
the adoption of development regulations
31:12
then flow from that comprehensive plan
31:15
uh it's not siloed uh but they're both
31:17
tools to implement it the comprehensive
31:19
plan and then the kinds of projects that
31:21
people build on the ground um most of
31:24
the decisions that affect your community
31:25
are actually the decisions that made
31:27
about what kind of building do I build
31:29
um what's feasible to build um where am
31:32
I going to make my investments those
31:33
kinds of decisions that the private
31:35
sector made those are the project
31:37
development decisions and those are
31:38
largely governed by um what the zoning
31:41
and compr what the zoning and the
31:42
development regulations allow and also
31:45
what kind of capital facilities uh
31:47
you've constructed that are able to
31:49
support that um and those decisions then
31:52
are what govern project
31:54
development so if you've ever looked at
31:56
a comprehensive plan this is sort of
31:57
what it looks like you've got all these
31:59
different elements that are required the
32:01
land use element the housing element Etc
32:03
and then if you actually dig into those
32:06
elements what do you find well you find
32:07
there's goals and policies that sort of
32:09
establish what the community hopes to
32:12
achieve what are we hoping to get out of
32:13
it what are we want to be um then you'll
32:16
find a collection of relevant facts okay
32:19
inventories of things like land use how
32:22
much commercial land do we have how much
32:24
commercial land have has the market been
32:26
absorbing over the last 20 years uh how
32:29
much do we think we'll need to
32:31
accommodate the rest of it what kind of
32:33
Revenue can we expect from the types of
32:36
Revenue sources we have available to us
32:38
today these are what you'd find in an
32:40
inventory and Analysis that sort of
32:42
Define what are the things that are
32:45
going to constrain our decisions and
32:47
what are the likely consequences of our
32:49
decisions and and then what you find
32:51
next is strategies and commitments so
32:53
what are we trying to achieve what do we
32:54
have to work with and then okay now what
32:56
are we going to do uh what strategies
32:58
are we going to be make what kind of
33:00
implementation tools are we going to use
33:02
that's generally how uh how the planning
33:05
process flows and that's what you'll
33:07
find in a typical comprehensive plan so
33:11
uh coordination is the act of uh
33:14
maintaining consistency both with within
33:16
your jurisdiction assuming that assuring
33:18
that there's not silos and also with
33:20
adjacent jurisdiction so uh I mentioned
33:22
the multi-county planning policies
33:24
there's also these things called
33:25
countywide planning policies that are
33:27
adoped at the county level um these are
33:30
the things that are going to govern how
33:31
do we ensure consistency between
33:33
jurisdictions so the decisions that one
33:36
organization make does not thwart the
33:37
decisions that the other organizations
33:39
make that's really the defining
33:41
characteristic of consistency um and
33:44
these are the things that are
33:45
established the multi-county and the
33:47
countywide planning policies sort of
33:48
establish that framework and the GMA is
33:52
an evolving framework um every year
33:54
there are little bitty amendments to the
33:56
GMA um courts have continued to
33:59
interpret the GMA and uh every year we
34:01
continue to work through this but um
34:04
over the grand scheme of things Mary
34:05
Margaret hgan is one of the of the um
34:08
one of the legislator that was
34:09
originally around when the GMA was
34:11
adopted and she's still around uh and
34:13
she talks about uh sort of what she sees
34:15
as one of the one of the Hallmarks of
34:18
the way we're doing things and the main
34:19
one is she says that people are just
34:21
talking to each other about these things
34:23
they're not done in silos anymore and
34:24
that that's uh what she sees is the
34:26
greatest accomplish M so um with that uh
34:31
uh thank you very much for having me out
34:33
if if you're interested in knowing more
34:34
about this uh or those of you in the
34:37
audience who have a have a real uh a
34:39
real interest in in this I would
34:40
encourage you to come to one of our
34:42
short courses we we offer a a planning
34:46
we offer a training program that's
34:47
basically a boot camp for new planning
34:49
Commissioners uh but it's open to the
34:51
public uh and we're delighted to have uh
34:54
anyone who'd like to come uh and hear
34:55
more about this we' we'd sure love to
34:57
have you a short course so uh with that
35:00
um thank you for your time thank you uh
35:03
are there any questions at this
35:05
time seeing none then da actually have a
35:09
question oh thanks sorry um thanks for
35:11
the presentation that was very helpful
35:14
um I'm not that familiar with all the
35:16
details in the growth management act but
35:18
I was interested in the part you talked
35:19
about not working in silos and um my
35:23
basic understanding is that the cities
35:25
do plan within their own boundaries and
35:27
take into account concurrency but
35:30
between two cities how do we ensure that
35:33
those pieces of the transportation
35:35
Network that connect us are also
35:37
tracking along the same with
35:39
growth well the main re the main ways
35:42
that's done uh in in King County and a
35:45
lot of counties is there's a a regional
35:47
arterial Network that sort of
35:49
establishes off of the big major State
35:51
highways there's another Regional
35:53
arterial Network and the levels of
35:55
service you sat the amount of
35:57
expectation
35:58
the amount what kind of expectations you
36:00
have for the performance of that system
36:02
and the forecasts about how much traffic
36:04
is going to occur on those systems um
36:07
that those occur both at the local level
36:09
and also at the regional level so
36:10
there's uh fairly regular meetings of
36:13
the Public Works staff uh and of the
36:15
planning staffs in the jurisdictions to
36:17
try to work these issues out uh when
36:19
you're looking at the regional arterial
36:20
netwk guess the followup question would
36:22
be then in the act itself if growth is
36:25
occurring within designated are areas
36:28
and the connectors the highways and
36:32
arterials between them is there if they
36:35
fail is there a check in Balance to
36:39
meter growth or to take take a step
36:42
backwards or take a pause or or what do
36:44
we do when those connecting roads
36:46
fail well that's that's a good question
36:49
uh and that's really the heart of one of
36:51
the requirements uh that we mentioned in
36:53
here the requirements of concurrency
36:55
which is that you establish a level of
36:57
service which is sort of what you're
36:59
going what the what your target is going
37:01
to be for that facility and then when
37:02
you're developing your plan the plan is
37:05
designed to assure that you know what
37:08
kinds of facilities and services are
37:10
necessary uh to meet the demand for
37:12
those facilities and that's the
37:13
concurrency that occurs at the plan
37:15
level and then at the individual project
37:18
development level there's a mechanism
37:20
that you have called a concurrency
37:21
management system that identifies how
37:24
much impact is going to be occurring by
37:26
the developments and then um making sure
37:29
that they they pay their fair share into
37:31
it and that you're monitoring that
37:33
performance of that system over time
37:34
guess my last part to that is then does
37:36
the state and County also follow
37:38
concurrency on their network of Roads
37:41
there's uh there's an exemption for
37:45
State highways highways have statewide
37:47
significance um where they they still do
37:50
planning they still set level of service
37:53
um they still loc look at local traffic
37:55
needs but there is not this obl ation on
37:58
the part of local governments that you
38:00
deny development if there's uh if
38:03
there's a problem on the larger State
38:05
system so if I if I90 is grinding to a
38:08
halt there's not an obligation that you
38:10
have to stop development everywhere uh
38:12
in isqua and some Amish until I uh until
38:15
the state fixes that because it's a
38:17
state facility um local governments
38:20
really don't have uh uh enough
38:22
wherewithal to go and plan for that
38:23
system entirely on their own so um
38:26
holding up the development in any one
38:28
jurisdiction for something that's a
38:29
large Statewide problem uh wasn't wasn't
38:33
the system the legislature uh
38:35
contemplated when it adopted the State
38:36
Transportation facility requirements
38:39
that
38:40
help cont
38:42
compl other questions or
38:45
comments seeing none then Dave thank you
38:49
very very much uh for that tutorial I
38:51
appreciate that very very much and uh
38:54
rest assured that this is not the only
38:57
audience
38:58
that will see this uh we rebroadcast our
39:02
uh our Council meetings uh on our
39:04
government access Channel 21 so if you
39:07
want to see how well you did tune in
39:10
thank you thank you very much going to
39:14
uh uh adjust the uh agenda just a little
39:20
bit before two other special business
39:23
items and move now to uh audience
39:26
comments
39:28
and so uh
39:31
uh citizen comments are an important
39:33
part of the public process we take them
39:35
seriously and Factor them into the
39:37
decisions we make anyone from the public
39:40
who wishes to comment will have the
39:42
opportunity to do so please direct your
39:45
comments to the whole Council and not
39:47
individuals while this is not a question
39:50
and answer session we will contact you
39:52
to follow up if needed if you did not
39:54
have an opportunity in to include your
39:57
email address on the signin sheet you
40:01
may leave that information on the
40:03
clipboard which will be placed on the
40:05
tables in front of me recognize uh
40:09
please use the lectron speak into the
40:11
microphone state your name address and
40:13
relationship to the city limit your
40:15
comments to five minutes you have
40:18
written comments please submit those to
40:20
the city clerk so uh we have do we have
40:24
the timer okay uh a visual timer has
40:28
been placed on the lect and when it
40:30
turns yellow you are within the last
40:31
minute of your comment period if you use
40:34
the full five minutes the timer will
40:36
sound to indicate the end of your
40:38
allotted time and so with that uh again
40:42
citizen comments written in verbal are
40:45
an important aspect of the public
40:46
process we take them seriously and we
40:49
thank members of the public for taking
40:51
the time to address US during our
40:53
meetings and so has anyone signed up to
40:56
speak this evening yes Bob
41:03
Powers good evening my name is Bob power
41:06
uh 165 Northeast Juniper Street sweet
41:09
100 isqua and I'm here representing
41:12
secon LLC Gilman Point self storage and
41:16
isqua Studio loss and current status of
41:19
where we are right now the city is
41:21
issued us a permit and we're under
41:22
construction for a self- storage project
41:25
we have an AS DP permit for the front
41:29
lot which would allow us to build about
41:31
11,000 ft uh retail uh
41:35
Superstore and as a condition of that
41:37
permit we are required to construct a
41:39
curb into Gilman Boulevard that would uh
41:44
prohibit right hand leftand turns in and
41:46
out uh to the businesses located to the
41:50
north of Gilman North on Gilman from
41:53
from basically pagas to uh the Shel
41:57
station and we've requested a
42:00
development agreement we we've requested
42:02
to partner with the city on a
42:03
development agreement that would allow
42:05
us to continue to move forward with the
42:08
studio Loft project in Li of the tire
42:10
store and we're proposing to do a
42:13
voluntary Improvement to Gilman that
42:16
would relocate the signal that's
42:18
currently at the three Trails Crossing
42:21
and put it uh basically to line up with
42:24
juniper and Market on Gilman and create
42:27
a fully signalized interchange we think
42:30
the benefit to the city in doing this is
42:32
that it will uh ass solve an
42:35
increasingly dangerous pedestrian and
42:37
bicycle problem where people tend to cut
42:39
across uh Gilman rather than going up to
42:42
the signal uh it solves a problem for
42:44
all the business owners located on the
42:46
north side of Gilman between our project
42:49
and the Shell station essentially if
42:51
this project goes in with the c curb as
42:54
presently planned then then all these
42:57
businesses are going to be forced to
42:58
have their uh have all their clients uh
43:02
go West on Gilman to try and make a
43:05
U-turn and come back or what I think
43:07
would be the the worst outcome would be
43:08
to try to cut through the shell parking
43:10
lot and make a left-hand turn across
43:12
Front Street to to get back to I90 uh we
43:15
think our project solves both of these
43:17
issues uh and uh it it also avoids some
43:22
of I think some of the misconceptions
43:23
that came out of the signal that got put
43:25
in at at Atlas and restricting
43:27
uh growth for or fully signalized access
43:30
to to all the businesses we think the
43:33
benefit of moving ahead with this
43:35
project is a development agreement uh in
43:38
light of the moratorium and effect is
43:39
that we are I think honoring all the
43:42
items that have been raised uh in the
43:44
moratorium as issues that have created
43:46
problems for the city we're talking
43:48
about a mixed use project that has no
43:51
residential uh it provides all
43:53
structured parking it provides for a
43:55
strong pedestrian link to the to Gilman
43:58
and to the trail system and it has
44:01
already been architecturally vetted
44:04
through the the planning department in
44:06
advance of the moratorium taking effect
44:08
uh timing for us has become a real issue
44:12
uh we are in the position now in the
44:14
first quarter of next year having to
44:16
construct the significant improvements
44:18
on Gilman we have to rebuild the water
44:21
lines that are located basically almost
44:24
down from the Shell station across the
44:25
frontage and and if this project goes
44:28
forward we really need to coordinate at
44:30
least the engineering relative to the
44:32
traffic signal so that the underground
44:35
conduits and utilities can go in
44:37
concurrently with the other improvements
44:39
that are taking place on Gilman this is
44:41
what makes the project uh an
44:43
economically viable project for us to
44:45
partner with the city on um and so we
44:48
need to get those issues worked out um I
44:51
guess the the outcome of this if we
44:53
don't go forward with this then then our
44:56
partners basically Bally putting us back
44:57
in a position of trying to move forward
44:59
with not our favorite outcome which
45:02
would be the the tire Superstore and we
45:05
end up with a c curb that really doesn't
45:07
I think help the community and I guess
45:09
the last thing is because we've
45:11
addressed time is money uh this project
45:13
I think will bring in close to a million
45:15
dollars in terms of uh either mitigation
45:17
or permitting fees uh so we hope you
45:21
consider our request for a development
45:23
agreement for the site thank you thank
45:26
you
45:28
next is Dave
45:38
Wagner good evening mayor and Council uh
45:40
David Wagner uh 360 Northwest Dogwood
45:44
Street Apartment K
45:46
204
45:48
um I uh made a presentation to the mayor
45:52
on Veterans Day of a token flag and
45:56
immediately took it back from him
45:58
because I didn't want him to escape with
45:59
it because it was part of the flags that
46:02
we were going to donate to the city so
46:05
I'm here with that token flag again
46:07
because I don't believe all council
46:09
members know that rvfw post uh for the
46:13
last 10 years have given the flags to
46:16
the city where we have soldiers Sailors
46:21
Airmen uh In Harm's Way We want to make
46:24
sure that this city Stands Tall with
46:26
brand new Flags every year to fly in
46:30
uh in their honor so that they know that
46:33
they are supported by their Hometown if
46:37
isqua happens to be their Hometown one
46:40
sad thing to come uh before you I can
46:43
tell you I watched on the news today the
46:46
terrible terrible thing that happened in
46:48
San Antonio Texas we see a lot of
46:51
terrible things on the news every day
46:53
but for an officer to uh put on a
46:57
uniform and serve his city is just like
47:01
a soldier or a sailor or a marine
47:03
putting on their uniform and serving
47:06
their country and to see that officer
47:09
assassinated for no other reason than
47:12
just to be
47:13
assassinated I can only imagine the Grim
47:17
feeling that we would have in this city
47:20
if that was to happen to one of our
47:23
officers um we've got to find way to
47:28
stop this and it's all going to come
47:30
down to us everybody in this room and
47:35
uh this streets of isqua and the
47:39
community we have to find a way to stop
47:42
it so um I thank you for your time we
47:46
will have uh 14 brand new Flags uh for
47:52
the city we only use about 10 a year but
47:55
we're going to make sure that there's in
47:57
case uh there's a problem with one of
47:59
the flags that will have that flag for
48:02
backup
48:05
um anyway thank you and
48:08
uh thank you thank you is there some way
48:13
we can turn the screen
48:16
off yeah we can do that or
48:22
uh de I the
48:27
know we're going to need the screen
48:30
after this but uh
48:33
we oh that looks much better the city of
48:36
is Washington that's great
48:40
okay uh anyone else signed up to speak
48:44
is there anyone else in the audience D
48:48
yes please
48:57
good evening mayor council members my
48:59
name is Jennifer O'Neal and I'm
49:01
representing the Chinese information
49:02
service center cultural Navigator
49:05
program and we were recommended for
49:07
funding from the Human Services Grants
49:09
this is the first time ever and we're
49:11
very appreciative and I just wanted to
49:13
say a few words about what we've been
49:14
doing um we are a group that builds
49:18
Bridges between immigrant communities
49:20
and their new adopted Community we have
49:23
people on staff who speak Spanish
49:26
Russian Indian languages and I myself
49:29
speak Arabic and Chinese um and we
49:32
provide new immigrants with a feeling of
49:35
comfort that they can come to us and
49:37
talk in their own language and find out
49:40
any kind of information that they would
49:42
like whether it be how do I sign up sign
49:45
up for health insurance um what are
49:47
immigration laws that affect me or how
49:50
can I apply for housing or most recently
49:53
with a lot of our Chinese immigrants uh
49:56
many of whom are here in issaqua how can
49:59
I be a part of things and they just the
50:03
um 500 strong new Chinese immigrants
50:06
Association had a big event on Saturday
50:08
that I attended and I just spoke to
50:11
people and in fact they they is the
50:14
Presbyterian
50:16
Church on East Lake samamish so it's
50:19
actually within isqua they have a
50:22
congreg they have a service there every
50:24
I believe Sunday at 2 o'clock they share
50:27
that church um with the other
50:29
congregation and so many people were
50:31
saying we really want to contribute to
50:34
life here but because of maybe language
50:37
or because of just being from another
50:39
country with a very different system
50:41
we're not sure how um and we are an
50:44
organization that was established uh the
50:49
cisc um Chinese information service
50:52
center was established in the
50:53
International District in Seattle in the
50:56
70s to serve that population of Chinese
51:00
immigrants and later all immigrants and
51:02
now we're out here and we find oh we
51:04
have a lot of people that um maybe don't
51:08
have economic needs but they do have
51:11
needs in terms of of really playing a
51:13
larger role in the community I know
51:16
people at that church uh they go to um
51:21
some Native American reservations and do
51:23
ministry out there and help people there
51:26
and and so I just think it's a
51:27
tremendous uh potential for volunteers
51:30
for
51:31
contributions um and we are doing a lot
51:36
of that work here in issaqua they're
51:38
having a big um celebration that they
51:40
hope uh they can get you Mr Mayor to
51:43
come to and I will give you information
51:46
about that but we just want to say how
51:48
very appreciative we are and we're going
51:50
to work very hard uh in isqua in the
51:53
coming year and um really look forward
51:57
to working with all of you thank you
51:59
Jennifer thank you very very much uh is
52:02
there anyone else Desiring to speak this
52:04
evening Mr
52:08
kler Jennifer did uh do we have your
52:11
email
52:18
address good evening David kler 255
52:20
Southeast Andrew Street um Mr Wagner did
52:24
not mention that uh today for the first
52:26
time in in over a year and a half he
52:27
could go to the uh Senior Center and not
52:30
be under threat of arrest which was kind
52:32
of nice and thanks for the mayor being
52:35
there today and um we had a nice um a
52:39
nice we got a lot of new members today
52:41
we a lot of us paid our 15 bucks so we
52:43
can be a member for less than a month
52:45
and a half but um that's how it goes um
52:50
I've as you know the council especially
52:52
knows I've had a lot to say about that
52:54
we need a new 501c3 new nonprofit group
52:57
to run the place um The more I've worked
53:00
with our new parks director and more I
53:02
hear about the the um Senior Center that
53:06
he ran in Kent when he was the park
53:08
director down there the much more
53:10
comfortable I am that the city would be
53:12
a good operator of such a facility um I
53:16
think there are some advantages to
53:17
having a a good
53:19
501c3 that has a great contract and a
53:22
great lease and all those kinds of
53:23
things that could maybe get some grants
53:26
that maybe the city couldn't get maybe
53:28
will cause some volunteering that the
53:30
city might not see but um I quite
53:34
positive about the the future under the
53:36
city's um operation of that
53:40
facility tomorrow I can't make it to the
53:43
U the conference or the on
53:45
Transportation that hopefully all of you
53:47
are going to be at and as I was seeing
53:50
the presentation I was think I was um
53:54
thinking the same thing that Mary Lou
53:55
was getting at with her
53:58
question two urban areas that are right
54:01
next to each other two different
54:02
jurisdictions yeah there's ways to get
54:05
connected I mean we have those
54:06
connections between samamish and isqua
54:09
isqua and BW and a lot of those things
54:11
and there's Arial boards and other
54:13
sources of money and those kinds of
54:15
things where it falls apart is those
54:18
other two classifications of land the
54:20
rural land and the resource land Hobart
54:24
isqua Road is through a rural area the
54:29
highway teen is through um a basically a
54:33
forest and resource land between the
54:35
creeks and rivers there salmon issues
54:37
there and Forestry with the Raging River
54:40
Forest on one side of that road and
54:42
Tiger Mountain State Forest on the other
54:44
side there's some complications so and
54:48
the the money out there is is
54:51
short if I would hope you'll all be a
54:54
broken record tomorrow about the need to
54:57
do something about Highway 18 it's not
55:00
just the time wasted
55:03
there the frustration and all of that
55:06
it's it's a death trap when you have one
55:09
mile backups both East and West in the
55:11
PMP time onto a section of 70 M hour
55:15
Highway it is just
55:17
nuts um I can remember as a kid living
55:21
in bellw and hearing the head-on
55:23
collisions on us10 over on Merc Island
55:27
and hoping it wasn't my dad coming home
55:29
from work that was in that accident and
55:31
I think a lot of people are choosing to
55:34
come through isqua going this way even
55:37
if it might take longer because at least
55:38
they're not going to be in a
55:40
highspeed accidents on Highway 18 it's
55:44
going to be a much slower accident on
55:46
our very frustrating Hobart isqua Road
55:49
as long as people see Hobart isqua being
55:53
acceptable and Highway 18 being
55:56
dangerous and and slow we're going to
56:00
have our problem here is certainly going
56:02
to get worse thank you thank you David
56:06
anyone else Desiring to speak
56:16
Mary my name is Mary Lynch and I recite
56:19
at 26 90 Northwest oakrest Drive isqua
56:23
Washington and what I want to First just
56:25
talk about is I um have met with the
56:27
mayor and Emily and have heard that
56:29
you're not planning to adopt Vision zero
56:32
per se um but I still would like to say
56:35
that issaqua really needs to adopt the
56:38
four e of vision zero Enforcement
56:42
Education engineering and emergency
56:45
services and I would like to speak on
56:48
enforcement I again the last couple of
56:50
days have been walking I'm dog sitting
56:53
dog along Newport Way and and I talked
56:56
to the mayor over a month ago when I met
56:58
with him people are going 35 to 40 to 45
57:03
miles still on Newport way now that it's
57:06
dark and I was down there right at 5:00
57:08
today there was most of the cars going
57:12
35 to 45 miles an hour and I stood
57:15
actually in front of the mile per hour
57:17
sign with the dog with a light on people
57:22
didn't put their brakes on they didn't
57:24
slow down and they could see me they had
57:28
no idea what was going to happen with my
57:30
dog or to know that I had him on a short
57:32
lead they didn't slow down you can
57:35
normally see what's going the opposite
57:37
that was going away from isqua when
57:40
there's no cars coming away from isqua
57:42
you still get the recording of what
57:44
people coming into isqua are doing
57:47
they're doing even faster because they
57:49
don't see the speed
57:51
sign we need enforcement not only there
57:54
but everywhere Behavior needs to change
57:58
and I've talked with um Bill uh Romas
58:02
here and I think he's mentioned it
58:04
before the police can help change that
58:07
behavior when they stop and make a
58:08
citation we've asked a couple of times
58:11
and not gotten responses on what how
58:13
many citations actually have been issued
58:15
since last year along Newport way and I
58:18
would doubt that very few citations have
58:21
been issued we've not got been able to
58:23
have that number I think probably more
58:25
than not was warnings but we have seen
58:28
very little presence especially lately
58:30
out there and now that it's dark in the
58:32
morning and the night we have a lot of
58:35
people that do ride or walk into isqua
58:39
uh park and ride to get the bus and we
58:42
have a lot of I was just talking with
58:45
the woman um Jennifer that presented we
58:47
have a lot of grandparents that are
58:49
walking children down along Newport Way
58:53
with little ones that easily could dart
58:55
out into the street
58:57
and at 40 to 45 M an hour they're not
59:00
going to
59:01
survive we need to have enforcement I
59:04
know we're short but we need to put
59:07
emphasis there we need all the police
59:09
that are out there whenever they're out
59:11
there they need to pull people over if
59:13
they're speeding I also with enforcement
59:17
um was walking with um the director of
59:20
operations for the schools because
59:22
second although a lot of us have come
59:25
and talked about it was identified in
59:27
the traffic um ped say um study that
59:32
there's supposed to be change we've seen
59:34
no changes to Second Avenue you just
59:37
congratulated the um cross country team
59:41
they routinely use Second Avenue to run
59:44
along and cross and they come off the
59:46
reneer trail they cross over to the
59:49
other Trail there is no good warning
59:51
there is no good lights they're there
59:53
late in the evening and they need to
59:56
also be better trained and I've talked
59:58
that with the school but we as a town
1:00:00
and City need to improve Second Avenue
1:00:04
and make it safe for everybody we need
1:00:06
enforcement because everybody that
1:00:08
drives second they know exactly where
1:00:11
those traffic camera things are so you
1:00:14
see them speed they get there most of
1:00:17
them if they're not on their cell phone
1:00:19
slow down those that get caught are
1:00:21
normally on their cell phones and
1:00:22
thinking about something else you
1:00:24
actually can bypass those
1:00:26
because there's a center lane where
1:00:28
there are no sensors and I've repeatedly
1:00:30
seen people go and go around Those
1:00:33
sensors and continue to speed and not
1:00:35
get caught that's unacceptable so we
1:00:38
need better engineering along there also
1:00:41
and that being said when we talk about
1:00:43
engineering um I just heard something
1:00:46
about Gilman I've also talked with Kurt
1:00:50
Shaman about the atlas project I hope
1:00:53
that if you design a new intersection
1:00:56
down there on Juniper that there are
1:00:59
pedestrian refuges at or the atlas
1:01:02
project should have never been built
1:01:05
without pedestrian Refuge when you're
1:01:06
talking 35 miles an hour and a congested
1:01:10
area people are going to get hit and
1:01:13
they're going to get killed there and if
1:01:15
you do do something with the Juniper one
1:01:17
now if you're moving the pedestrians
1:01:19
down to there you're going to have
1:01:21
problems thank you thank you uh Mary uh
1:01:25
anyone else Desiring to speak this
1:01:28
evening anyone else Desiring to speak
1:01:31
third and final call seeing no one
1:01:34
audience comments are closed we will now
1:01:37
move to uh uh agenda Bill
1:01:44
7297 Oldtown planning design and uh
1:01:48
David and Andrea are here to uh provide
1:01:51
a joint presentation on what's going on
1:01:55
on Street and in the
1:01:58
Oldtown yes we are thank you and let me
1:02:02
just point out that uh uh there this
1:02:06
pres presentation will also reference
1:02:08
two items under the consent calendar
1:02:11
proposing project acceptance for the
1:02:14
Front Street improvements that's agenda
1:02:17
Bill
1:02:18
7135 Front Street railroad crossing
1:02:20
upgrade and agenda Bill 7137 Front
1:02:24
Street sidewalk dri AG project I hope I
1:02:27
didn't steal your entire presentation
1:02:30
with that half of it but we got other
1:02:32
other things to talk about thank you but
1:02:34
we will start by talking about those two
1:02:37
agenda bills and and say thank you we're
1:02:39
here to give you I guess an update or
1:02:41
refresher on the work that many of us
1:02:44
are doing on the Oldtown area of isqua
1:02:48
and the two agenda bills the mayor
1:02:50
mentioned U kind of bring us here
1:02:52
tonight here are two slides that show um
1:02:56
highlights of the railroad crossing
1:02:59
project and the one prior The Front
1:03:02
Street work storm drainage and Ada ramp
1:03:07
repairs that were completed um speaking
1:03:09
for the public works department I think
1:03:11
pleased to say these projects were
1:03:13
completed ahead of schedule and under
1:03:16
budget so those are the two construction
1:03:19
projects um before you here tonight
1:03:21
we're here more to talk about the
1:03:23
broader picture of planning and design
1:03:25
work work um that has been happening and
1:03:28
will continue to happen over the next
1:03:30
year or so um we'll hop
1:03:33
to slide three which talks about and
1:03:37
I'll step back where this is next steps
1:03:39
in the in the last 2015 and part of 16
1:03:43
we have worked with the Oldtown Vitality
1:03:46
task force a group of downtown
1:03:50
stakeholders who came up with this this
1:03:52
report here that you may recall is
1:03:55
online it's on our website they came up
1:03:58
with a series of recommendations two key
1:04:00
ones one to update the Oldtown plan as
1:04:04
well as the development standards the
1:04:05
zoning and the design standards um that
1:04:09
were adopted back in 1999 and 2001 so
1:04:12
it's been quite a while uh on those and
1:04:16
secondly to create a um consistent and
1:04:18
well-designed streetscape plan for kind
1:04:22
of the Front Street area that Andrew
1:04:23
will talk about in a minute
1:04:26
um what what we are working on now is
1:04:30
kind of on those two parallel projects
1:04:32
they're kind of separate but we
1:04:33
recognize they come together so in the
1:04:36
blue box over here is kind of the
1:04:38
general framework is to set the vision
1:04:41
and direction for the next many years
1:04:44
and to confirm that this plan right here
1:04:47
which which we had back adopted back in
1:04:50
99 and hasn't really been looked at too
1:04:52
much since then confirm is this still
1:04:55
the vision development um for the
1:04:57
Oldtown
1:04:58
area and then implementing that Vision
1:05:01
like you heard from the GMA guy just a
1:05:03
bit ago we take actions to implement the
1:05:06
vision and that's adopting perhaps new
1:05:09
updated development standards or
1:05:12
development code zoning standards and
1:05:15
that's kind of a list of the possible
1:05:17
actions that may happen we you know
1:05:19
we're not done yet so but we anticipate
1:05:23
some of those elements may be an out
1:05:25
come of the plan and were recommended
1:05:27
with the from the Oldtown Vitality task
1:05:30
force last year so that's the brief part
1:05:33
about the Oldtown Plan update I'll turn
1:05:36
over to Andrew about the streets
1:05:38
gate thank you Dave I'd like to jump
1:05:40
back if I may to the first two slides
1:05:43
and just uh I'd like to emphasize that
1:05:46
these were projects that were completed
1:05:49
on Front Street um that really focused
1:05:53
on
1:05:54
fixing fixing some of our infrastructure
1:05:57
problems that we had so they fixed the
1:05:59
drainage system that was pooling up
1:06:01
outside of Jacks and outside of stands
1:06:04
those were much needed repairs and I
1:06:06
think um from the questions that I've
1:06:09
received so far from the community is
1:06:11
okay so wait was that it was that the
1:06:13
street skate plan are we done now what
1:06:15
does this mean with the task force
1:06:17
requirements and so um we're not done
1:06:21
and that's one of the reasons why I
1:06:22
think we wanted to present to you today
1:06:24
was to talk about okay so what are the
1:06:25
next steps we have we've completed this
1:06:29
uh these fixes to some of the failing
1:06:32
infrastructure but um there's also more
1:06:35
to come and and I think that's the
1:06:37
emphasis of tonight so um so in addition
1:06:40
to the drainage and sidewalk uh in order
1:06:44
to get to that drainage infrastructure
1:06:46
of course we had to tear up the sidewalk
1:06:48
and repave it um also in order to fix
1:06:50
some of the
1:06:52
non-compliant crossings we had to tear
1:06:55
some things up and repave them um we did
1:06:58
build in as much as we could into these
1:07:00
projects based off of the uh Vitality
1:07:03
task force that Dave mentioned earlier
1:07:04
to make sure that um that we got the
1:07:08
basic idea of the task force
1:07:10
recommendations and reflected them but
1:07:12
also didn't want to build too much into
1:07:14
these projects uh without going through
1:07:17
this Greater Community process for
1:07:19
Street skate planning and so that's what
1:07:21
what I'd like to talk about next so back
1:07:23
to that Orange Box um so the street gate
1:07:26
plan here is just some of the bulleted
1:07:27
items for what is involved in the scope
1:07:29
of that plan the street gate plan is
1:07:31
going to address that sidewalk questions
1:07:33
so the repairs that we made to the
1:07:35
drainage system and the subsequent
1:07:37
sidewalk Paving really only affected U
1:07:40
one block between Sunset and Alder of
1:07:43
the downtown and there there's more to
1:07:46
take a look at and make sure that uh it
1:07:48
reflects what the community would like
1:07:50
to
1:07:50
see it's also going to talk about Street
1:07:53
trees so that's another question that I
1:07:55
know received is why haven't we replaced
1:07:57
the trees on Front Street why haven't we
1:08:00
replanted them and that's because uh we
1:08:04
want to make sure that we put in the
1:08:06
right tree right now that I have heard
1:08:09
uh that there's four to six different
1:08:11
species of trees on Front Street so
1:08:12
let's make sure that what we put in is
1:08:14
actually what we want to have there um
1:08:17
then also if we plant these trees do we
1:08:21
want to have other Planters or other
1:08:22
things around these trees so let's just
1:08:24
have that conversation as a community
1:08:26
find out what the community wants um
1:08:28
other things that are going to be
1:08:29
addressed throughout this process things
1:08:31
like pedestrian lighting uh Street
1:08:33
Furniture benches tables what do those
1:08:35
look like what does what does the
1:08:36
community want to see there um and
1:08:38
there's a few other things involved in
1:08:40
the scope as well including connections
1:08:42
to Front Street from things that are
1:08:44
maybe just a block off that folks uh
1:08:47
don't really know about or are hard to
1:08:48
get to and also some concept designs for
1:08:51
two areas off of Front Street which
1:08:54
include the entrance to The Fish
1:08:55
Hatchery and um the area behind uh
1:09:00
Jackson stands that's kind of between
1:09:02
pedestrian Park and Depot Park in that
1:09:05
area and then of course uh cost
1:09:07
estimates Let's uh see what these
1:09:10
suggestions look like and uh then we can
1:09:13
go towards implementing I think Dave
1:09:15
talked about we we're going to get the
1:09:16
plan and then uh then implementing the
1:09:19
plan would be the step after
1:09:22
that so I'm going to turn it back over
1:09:24
to Dave and he can talk about uh the
1:09:27
timelines for the Oldtown plan the point
1:09:29
of this slide is really to show that we
1:09:31
recognize these projects involve a lot
1:09:34
of stakeholder involvement from very
1:09:37
similar stakeholders we know that folks
1:09:39
that are interested in what happens in
1:09:41
the Oldtown plan are also really
1:09:42
interested in what happens in this more
1:09:44
focused plan that's uh the Front Street
1:09:47
Street skate plan or the downtown Street
1:09:50
gate plan so we've been trying to um to
1:09:53
coordinate Outreach as much as possible
1:09:56
for the convenience of our downtown
1:09:58
stakeholders and folks interested um
1:10:00
there's there's a lot to unpack here we
1:10:02
just kind of gave some of the highlights
1:10:04
so we'd be happy to answer questions
1:10:05
about that and Dave do you have anything
1:10:07
else you'd like to say about the Oldtown
1:10:09
plan timeline i' just say no with
1:10:11
there's many different ways to get we
1:10:13
want to get public Outreach as much as
1:10:14
possible many different ways there's
1:10:16
some bullets or boxes up there to talk
1:10:18
about that I want to I guess emphasize
1:10:21
the anticipated schedule is to bring
1:10:23
these two elements back to back to you
1:10:26
uh in the spring there's the word April
1:10:29
up there I bet it's kind of a fuzzy
1:10:31
April but it's it's in that anticipated
1:10:33
timeline and it depends on all the other
1:10:35
priorities that are going on in the the
1:10:37
city right now so we're anticipating
1:10:40
April and the other key thing is that
1:10:42
that'll come to you with a plan of
1:10:43
action implementation items so we're not
1:10:46
done in April that should come with a
1:10:48
list and from that we'll work with you
1:10:51
to adopt code amendments if we want or
1:10:54
or have cost estimates of projects um
1:10:58
design standard work we may need some
1:11:01
funding to to do that work um a list of
1:11:05
implementation items um with these two
1:11:07
plan
1:11:09
elements thank you uh Dave and Andrea
1:11:13
for that update and uh a look to the
1:11:16
Future are there any questions Mary L
1:11:19
sure um a question about the um open
1:11:23
housee from the 16th and then the one
1:11:25
for the second and third when we did the
1:11:27
sunset way design shet we used sort of a
1:11:31
different process in order to reach out
1:11:33
and get people to come to the meetings
1:11:36
did we use that process on the 16th and
1:11:38
how was our turnout and what is what did
1:11:40
the next two look like in January and
1:11:43
March yes um so we we had a little bit
1:11:46
of a different Outreach so for the East
1:11:48
Sunset Way open house we used some of
1:11:50
those electronic readerboard
1:11:52
signs and instead of those we placed
1:11:54
some signs on Front Street in the the
1:11:58
Planters the temporary planters that are
1:12:00
there now um so we weren't able to use
1:12:03
the electronic reader boards for the
1:12:04
openhouse last week because they uh had
1:12:07
been promised for the truck reroute so
1:12:11
um we weren't able to use them we would
1:12:13
like to use them in the future if if
1:12:15
they are available I think that was
1:12:17
something that we heard was pretty
1:12:19
effective and um we also sent out
1:12:22
notices via um the email list that we
1:12:25
gathered through the East Sunset Way
1:12:26
open house so folks that were directly
1:12:29
interested in what's happening in the
1:12:31
downtown and changes um and email lists
1:12:34
through the Downtown isqua Association
1:12:36
as well so some more targeted uh
1:12:38
invitations and it was on our City
1:12:40
calendar so there are some similarities
1:12:42
with the East Sunset Way open house and
1:12:44
then um a few differences as well so I
1:12:47
think um in terms of turnout it was not
1:12:52
as as many as we had hoped the east way
1:12:56
uh open house of course had a a lot of
1:12:59
people going uh we did not see as many
1:13:02
for this for this open house and I think
1:13:04
that's something that we're looking to
1:13:06
regroup and try to improve upon for
1:13:09
future Outreach the other thing is while
1:13:11
we have these open houses up here uh we
1:13:14
are looking to get feedback in a bunch
1:13:16
of different formats one thing that
1:13:18
we've heard from the community is coming
1:13:21
out when it's dark and rainy in the
1:13:23
winter time is is really hard to do
1:13:26
versus in the summertime and so what
1:13:28
we're trying to do is we're
1:13:29
experimenting with some online formats
1:13:32
and surveys and seeing what is effective
1:13:34
so so far for the survey that's listed
1:13:37
here um on the timeline you can see in
1:13:39
November it's actually available now um
1:13:42
actually it was started in uh around the
1:13:45
Zombie Walk So Halloween time and will
1:13:47
be available through uh the 1st of
1:13:50
December it's online on the city's
1:13:52
website and there's postcards up around
1:13:55
to to um to encourage folks to take the
1:13:59
survey and we've gotten some really good
1:14:00
responses from that better than
1:14:02
anticipated so I think we're trying to
1:14:04
look at different formats for getting
1:14:05
that feedback and uh engaging the
1:14:09
public and then and David a question
1:14:11
about the Oldtown plan so there was um
1:14:15
discussion of looking at the sub area
1:14:17
plan and looking at the design and the
1:14:20
and looking at the code and then there's
1:14:22
also suggested there's guidelines
1:14:25
for downtown is that a separate document
1:14:28
or is that something that would get
1:14:29
rolled
1:14:31
in to that process that that could be
1:14:34
part of the process I guess it depends
1:14:36
how the plan plays out and what what
1:14:38
list of recommendations or
1:14:40
implementation items we all you all
1:14:43
decide to adopt but today there are the
1:14:46
you know the oldfashioned zoning
1:14:48
standards but then there are the also
1:14:49
the Old Town design standards I think
1:14:52
that's what you're refer stands are
1:14:53
guidelines these are are they're called
1:14:56
standards they're some they're written
1:14:59
some as you know shall some as should so
1:15:01
it could be a but they are standards
1:15:04
they apply to the CBD Zone and the
1:15:07
multif family zones primarily you know
1:15:09
the two Comm front and sunset area and
1:15:12
are they tied are there any issues in
1:15:14
that whole review that are also being
1:15:16
looked at under the
1:15:19
moratorium um not I guess well well
1:15:23
there's architectural character is an
1:15:24
element that's in here that could be um
1:15:29
looked at through this process as
1:15:34
well thank you so I'm still a little
1:15:37
confused about what the deliverables are
1:15:39
in April okay it uh when it says city
1:15:43
council what what is that yes so we um
1:15:47
so I can speak for the streets gate plan
1:15:49
so for the street gate plan we have our
1:15:52
contract with the Consultants that are
1:15:53
assisting us on this project and our um
1:15:56
their main deliverables to draft the
1:15:58
street skate plan so we're going to be
1:16:00
engaging the public throughout this
1:16:02
process um as you can see in March they
1:16:04
hope to finalize the draft of the plan
1:16:06
and then at that point we'll be bringing
1:16:08
it back to council for review and uh
1:16:12
potential adoption in April so that's
1:16:15
that's I think the deliverable for the
1:16:16
street skate plan eventually um we see
1:16:19
it being folded into the Old Town plan
1:16:22
and the design standards it's kind of
1:16:24
acts as as an overlay to those okay and
1:16:27
and for the other element would
1:16:29
be an update to the Oldtown Subara
1:16:33
comprehensive
1:16:35
plan which would so be updating the plan
1:16:38
of development and then it would include
1:16:41
in there a list of
1:16:43
implementation additional steps
1:16:44
additional steps yes okay um I guess my
1:16:49
comment on the Oldtown plan that seems
1:16:51
rather ambitious um
1:16:55
to do that in that time frame because
1:16:57
it's a a fairly significant plan maybe
1:17:00
not in thickness but in
1:17:09
significance thank you for that comment
1:17:12
you're welcome are there uh additional
1:17:17
questions David Andrea thank you very
1:17:19
very much uh for for that update uh we
1:17:23
will now move move to committee and
1:17:26
Regional reports beginning with council
1:17:29
member
1:17:30
PTI thank you Mr Mayor uh the Eastside
1:17:34
Human Services Forum board met on
1:17:36
November 16th uh and reviewed the draft
1:17:40
2017 legislative agenda work plan and
1:17:43
budget um the agenda focuses on four
1:17:46
areas support access to basic needs and
1:17:50
Health Services making homelessness rare
1:17:52
brief and one time supporting older
1:17:55
adults and people with disabilities and
1:17:57
strengthening Early Learning and youth
1:18:00
programs uh the board also voted to
1:18:03
proceed with the development of a
1:18:05
federal legislative agenda citing the
1:18:07
importance of federal funding and
1:18:09
policies for state county and the local
1:18:11
work on the east side and also voted to
1:18:15
approve a letter of support for the
1:18:16
permanent shelter proposal before the
1:18:19
city of
1:18:20
bellw uh I also attended the um sound
1:18:23
cities Association uh public issues
1:18:26
committee on November 9th uh I attended
1:18:29
as an alternate and I'll leave um the
1:18:32
report to uh council member Marts as I
1:18:35
think he might have some exciting news
1:18:37
to
1:18:40
share uh thank you uh council member
1:18:42
wers side uh thank you uh the council
1:18:45
infrastructure committee met on November
1:18:47
17th last week here and if you weren't
1:18:50
able to attend uh they are available on
1:18:52
camera and online if you'd like to like
1:18:55
to watch those those uh committee
1:18:56
meetings but a number of informational
1:18:58
items including one about an alternative
1:19:00
Services pilot proposal we're applying
1:19:03
for some um grant money from King County
1:19:06
Metro and our our application they are
1:19:09
they are exploring some alternative um
1:19:13
um transportation programs and the one
1:19:16
that we're applying for some funds it's
1:19:18
titled I guess kind of Hill to Valley to
1:19:20
help people who live on our Hills within
1:19:21
Talis or squawk Mountain to connect to
1:19:24
place places within the valley that's a
1:19:27
great subject um and so I'm glad to hear
1:19:29
about that we'll learn more about um
1:19:31
that as so um as we go
1:19:34
on um we also got an update we learn we
1:19:37
learned about um I think something
1:19:39
that's coming to us in budget about a
1:19:42
proposal to make an improvement to the
1:19:45
Trader Joe's and Target Maple Street
1:19:47
intersection um and we know that there
1:19:49
were some funds in the proposed budget
1:19:52
for some complete streets type Improv M
1:19:55
crosswalk improvements um and ramp
1:19:58
improvements U but um we got a um we had
1:20:02
a conversation there wasn't really a lot
1:20:04
we didn't look at any material or any
1:20:05
pictures or detailed design but we heard
1:20:07
about a proposal to also add a um
1:20:12
something like a miniature roundabout to
1:20:14
that intersection um and um it's my
1:20:18
understanding we're going to talk about
1:20:20
this more as part of our budget
1:20:22
deliberations as well because this
1:20:23
additional this the creation of this
1:20:26
miniature roundabout was not in our
1:20:28
original budget proposal not for mini
1:20:31
cars
1:20:32
it's traffic ccle right yeah miniature
1:20:34
roundabouts um a miniature roundabout um
1:20:38
but and so I think the full Council will
1:20:40
be very interested in having this
1:20:42
conversation I mean this is a result of
1:20:45
of of our our ask of the administration
1:20:48
when we did not go forward with
1:20:51
including the upgrade of that
1:20:52
intersection on the traffic Bond
1:20:55
uh because uh we saw a couple other ways
1:20:57
that maybe we could make the necessary
1:20:59
improvements or or the actual uh land
1:21:03
owners property owners in that area
1:21:05
potentially making those improvements so
1:21:07
um but this uh miniature roundabout um
1:21:11
you know as would include um a center
1:21:14
Island as proposed um and as I mentioned
1:21:17
some improvements to ramps and crossings
1:21:20
uh and um it's all um currently
1:21:24
estimated add just about an additional
1:21:26
$50,000 that doesn't include flashing
1:21:28
signs at the crosswalk so that would be
1:21:30
an additional cost as well um and so
1:21:34
again I'll we'll be able to talk about
1:21:35
this a little bit more at a future uh
1:21:37
budget
1:21:39
meeting um we did um also um it will be
1:21:44
on not on on the December 5th uh consent
1:21:47
um calendar um we did approve suggest
1:21:51
for approval uh the First Amendment to
1:21:53
the South code green Point assumption
1:21:55
interlocal agreement with Belleview very
1:21:57
very fascinating topic U you'll see that
1:22:00
in a future packet um we got an update
1:22:03
on the I90 shoulder hardening so um the
1:22:07
state legislator legislature last year
1:22:09
did um uh include hardening of the
1:22:12
shoulders and I90 between isqua and
1:22:15
Eastgate um and so they've just started
1:22:18
having some um kickoff meetings about
1:22:21
what that would look like the various
1:22:23
stakeholders um facilitated by the
1:22:27
Washington State Department of
1:22:28
Transportation and their consultant so
1:22:30
we got briefed on that and I know that
1:22:32
we are involved uh and will be but uh
1:22:36
one of the things that stood out is that
1:22:38
um this will add some temporary capacity
1:22:41
during Peak usage times both Eastbound
1:22:43
and Westbound but construction wouldn't
1:22:44
start until 2018 it wouldn't be complete
1:22:47
till 2020 I'm still trying to get my
1:22:49
head around that one
1:22:51
how uh shoulder hardening will take
1:22:53
three years but um that's the schedule
1:22:55
that they're working to um and then um
1:23:00
okay so that's uh that'll actually
1:23:02
conclude my report for the
1:23:03
infrastructure meeting and then um on
1:23:06
November 10th I attended a a board
1:23:08
meeting for Eide fire and rescue and the
1:23:11
item of note from that meeting is that
1:23:13
we did establish a liability Reserve
1:23:16
fund whose purpose is to cover vacation
1:23:18
leave balance and six sick leave balance
1:23:20
cash outs as well as Employee Retirement
1:23:23
and vacation vacancy replacement costs
1:23:27
so a special fund so epher now has a
1:23:30
special fund to cover these liabilities
1:23:32
uh when people um again if we have to
1:23:35
pay out when they leave or retire um and
1:23:38
so we also deposit deposited some money
1:23:40
in that fund for its use in 2016 and I
1:23:42
think the establishment of this fund and
1:23:44
Associated business practices will allow
1:23:46
eper to properly plan and budget for and
1:23:49
provide visibility into this uh
1:23:51
significant expense that concludes my
1:23:53
report
1:23:55
thank you uh council member Marts thank
1:23:57
you Mr Mayor the council services and
1:24:00
Safety Committee met on Thursday
1:24:02
November 10th at 6:30 a little bit
1:24:05
different time um in the eagle room and
1:24:08
uh we had a number of issues that we had
1:24:11
that were informational but we took
1:24:12
action on agenda bill
1:24:14
7281 which is an interfund loan Fleet
1:24:17
Services fund to Street Improvement fund
1:24:19
and we unanimously moved our uh uh
1:24:22
recommended that to come back to the
1:24:24
full
1:24:25
Council uh November 20 21st um and then
1:24:31
we also uh perhaps of of uh a lot more
1:24:36
public interest um had an update on the
1:24:38
senior center uh site assessment um from
1:24:41
David Fujimoto Martha Cesar Roi and Jeff
1:24:45
Watling and basically what that is is uh
1:24:48
Parks and Recreation staff had been
1:24:50
working with pardon me on-site staff on
1:24:53
a continuity of service plan for the
1:24:55
senior center should the current
1:24:56
nonprofit agency stop operating the
1:24:58
center for some time now uh one of the
1:25:00
primary goals of this effort was to
1:25:01
continue operation as a senior center
1:25:03
with minimal or no disruption and they
1:25:05
developed a two-stage plan stage one
1:25:07
being interterm operation and stage two
1:25:09
being long-term operation and of course
1:25:11
there was uh recently news that the
1:25:13
isqua valley seniors board uh will be
1:25:15
stepping down as of the end of the year
1:25:17
in operating uh the senior center so the
1:25:20
interim plan is now being put into
1:25:22
motion with interim operation beginning
1:25:24
beginning the first week of January
1:25:25
specific date will be determined within
1:25:27
the next few weeks uh interm operation
1:25:30
will consist of the City operating the
1:25:31
center skilled and professional Parks
1:25:33
and Recreation staff will manage and
1:25:35
operate the facility in this interim
1:25:37
period drawing from their experience in
1:25:38
operating public facilities customer
1:25:40
service programming working with
1:25:42
Community Partners and Volunteers in
1:25:44
this Trans in this transition period
1:25:46
staff will reach out to and begin to
1:25:48
coordinate with the current service
1:25:50
providers and R and Rental groups at the
1:25:51
center as part of interm operations sta
1:25:54
will create a senior center Advisory
1:25:56
Board interm operation will allow the uh
1:25:59
will allow time for public engagement
1:26:01
identifying options analyzing options
1:26:04
and making a policy decision on
1:26:05
long-term operation stage two of this
1:26:08
public building a variety of long-term
1:26:10
operating models can be explored and
1:26:11
vetted the current requested funds for
1:26:13
senior services within the 2017 budget
1:26:16
will be able to fully fund the net
1:26:18
operating costs for stage one interim
1:26:20
operations more details on interim
1:26:22
operations will be available in the
1:26:23
coming weeks as a great deal of
1:26:25
transition work is underway with Parks
1:26:27
and
1:26:27
Recreation so that concludes uh the
1:26:31
services and Safety Committee uh public
1:26:34
is uh sound cities Association public
1:26:36
issues committee did indeed meet on
1:26:38
Wednesday November 9th and renon City
1:26:41
Hall a number of issues were uh
1:26:44
addressed uh go to my notes first up was
1:26:47
uh sound cities Association has actually
1:26:49
brought in a new senior policy analyst
1:26:51
Brian Perry uh who's already um I've
1:26:54
already had a bunch of interactions with
1:26:56
uh annual meeting is going to be held
1:26:58
November
1:26:59
30th and that is at the Ron uh I forget
1:27:03
the name of it it's their it's their
1:27:05
facility there their nice facility right
1:27:07
there in Ron um let's see here probably
1:27:10
the the big news you're referring to um
1:27:12
the extremely capable Ed Prince of reton
1:27:14
was um uh elected as P Vice chair Ed
1:27:18
I've been working with Ed for a while
1:27:19
he's really awesome and also I was
1:27:22
elected chair of the pick yay
1:27:25
congratulations very much I'm very I am
1:27:27
very excited I have been lucky enough to
1:27:29
be on pick now I think this is I think
1:27:31
this is my sixth year um so I have seen
1:27:34
the value to isqua of our engagement
1:27:36
with sound cities Association and I am
1:27:38
very very excited to be helping uh Drive
1:27:41
the uh the agenda that goes before the
1:27:43
pick in support of the sea board
1:27:45
Regional boarding committee appointments
1:27:47
were made a number of isqua folks were
1:27:49
on there not everybody got their first
1:27:51
choice but uh the the uh uh nominations
1:27:56
committee uh strove to make sure that
1:27:58
everybody who was interested got an
1:28:00
important uh and valuable assignment and
1:28:03
then I thought I had one more thing on
1:28:04
this oh yes we went through levies and
1:28:07
bond measures in King County and we
1:28:09
talked in compared notes on that and
1:28:12
uh uh there
1:28:15
were st3 was a was a subject that uh we
1:28:19
had not had unanimity um but there were
1:28:21
many people uh who were very happy to
1:28:24
have seen st3 go through but we sort of
1:28:27
kept kept the celebrations to a minimum
1:28:29
because not not everybody to ey pick
1:28:32
only takes positions when there's
1:28:34
essentially close to unanimity and so
1:28:36
did not directly take a position uh once
1:28:38
the uh once the measure was before the
1:28:41
public so then the King County growth
1:28:44
management policy council is going to
1:28:46
have a special meeting date um due to a
1:28:48
number of I think holiday related
1:28:49
scheduling they've actually moved it
1:28:51
from the end of November to Tuesday
1:28:53
December 13 at 4 p.m. in psrc Chambers
1:28:56
if that date sounds familiar is because
1:28:57
that's the evening that we have our next
1:28:59
services and safety committee meeting
1:29:01
and um I may be seeing if my fellow
1:29:03
council members can bump that a little
1:29:05
bit later so I can make sure I can get
1:29:07
through traffic to get back here and
1:29:09
then as mentioned before the uh e911
1:29:12
strategic plan scoping leadership group
1:29:13
doesn't get fired up until January this
1:29:15
concludes my report thank you uh council
1:29:18
member Barber no report this evening
1:29:20
council member Paulie thank you Mr Mayor
1:29:23
um
1:29:24
land insur meeting will be December 1st
1:29:26
6:30 which is a Thursday night in
1:29:28
council chambers the agenda has not yet
1:29:31
been set but we do have a standing item
1:29:33
that will be on our agendas through the
1:29:35
next uh nine months or so which is
1:29:37
moratorium will always be on our agendas
1:29:40
um the East Side Fire and Rescue finance
1:29:42
and AD mid committee met on November
1:29:44
16th they dealt with one item which was
1:29:47
a new policy for exempt employees and
1:29:50
that's going to be going to the board at
1:29:52
their next meeting um it's still
1:29:54
requires some additional work which will
1:29:56
likely happen in December or January to
1:29:58
deal with a suppression and compensation
1:30:01
between our Deputy Chiefs and Battalion
1:30:03
Chiefs it's an issue that the board has
1:30:05
been uh attempting to address for some
1:30:07
time so that is the last piece that
1:30:09
needs to get work done that's it thank
1:30:12
you uh council president Goodman thank
1:30:14
you uh just a reminder that we have uh
1:30:17
two two more budget work sessions
1:30:19
scheduled uh November 29th at 6:30 here
1:30:22
in council chambers and uh 9:00 a.m.
1:30:25
Saturday morning December 3rd here in
1:30:28
council chambers and they'll be
1:30:29
televised both of those are televised
1:30:32
thank you uh for the mayor's report
1:30:34
there will be an executive session held
1:30:36
this evening for the purpose of
1:30:38
discussing property acquisition and
1:30:41
pending potential litigation per RCW
1:30:47
42311 pen one pen B and Pen one pen I
1:30:54
these items are expected to take
1:30:56
approximately 35 minutes action is
1:30:59
anticipated to follow in Open
1:31:03
Session as you know the election results
1:31:05
showed that while a majority of isqua
1:31:07
Voters supported local prop one our
1:31:11
City's traffic Improvement Bond the
1:31:13
measure did not reach the required
1:31:16
60% approval
1:31:18
threshold election results and previous
1:31:22
City surveys clearly indicate that isaka
1:31:25
voters are supportive of making
1:31:27
Investments to reduce congestion enhance
1:31:30
safety and improve local streets we will
1:31:34
continue to have conversations with
1:31:36
voters and the council about possible
1:31:39
solutions to these issues our next steps
1:31:43
include reviewing feedback from the
1:31:45
election and seeking ways to get public
1:31:48
input on desired project as we update
1:31:52
our Capital plans
1:31:54
other efforts will include hosting a
1:31:57
regional transportation Summit and
1:31:59
implementing our 2017 budget which as
1:32:03
proposed includes Transportation related
1:32:06
items such as construction of Southeast
1:32:09
62nd Street Extension the design of
1:32:13
Newport Way Maple to Sunset improvements
1:32:17
uh as was recently mentioned to the
1:32:18
Maple Street Target Trader Joe's
1:32:22
intersection predesigned work for
1:32:24
Newport Way from State Route 900 to
1:32:27
Southeast
1:32:28
54th Transit and alternative
1:32:31
transportation funding as mentioned by
1:32:35
uh uh council member winterstein
1:32:38
completion of Crossing improvements
1:32:41
predesign for the Gilman Boulevard
1:32:43
safety improvements the isqua Hobart
1:32:46
Road study participating with wash do on
1:32:51
its implementation of the peak shoulder
1:32:54
Lane use project on I90 and the I90
1:32:58
Front Street interchange justification
1:33:01
report lobbying the legislature in King
1:33:04
County for regional projects such as
1:33:07
improvements to sr18 and sr900 and the
1:33:11
esqua Hobart Road there will be more
1:33:14
options to consider and recommendations
1:33:16
to discuss in the future in the meantime
1:33:20
we will continue to be busy making
1:33:22
improvements to our transportation
1:33:25
system and seeking solutions to our
1:33:27
traffic
1:33:29
issues I attended uh the sound City's
1:33:32
Association mayor's Roundtable on heroin
1:33:35
and prescription opiate addiction on
1:33:38
November 8th where we discussed having
1:33:41
cities promote the use of
1:33:45
nooon uh which epher uh uh units have
1:33:50
but the esar police department does not
1:33:52
at this time
1:33:54
and a number of other future
1:33:56
initiatives uh finally I attended the
1:33:59
November 17th Sound Transit executive
1:34:02
committee meeting where we will
1:34:04
recommend to the full boards the homish
1:34:06
county executive Dave Summers to serve
1:34:09
as chair of the Sound Transit board uh
1:34:13
uh Mayor John Marion will be one of the
1:34:16
two Vice chairs the other Vice chair
1:34:18
will be uh mayor Marilyn Strickland from
1:34:22
uh tacom
1:34:24
and that concludes the mayor's report
1:34:28
I'd point out that council member Bill
1:34:30
Ramos uh is an excused absence uh this
1:34:34
evening and uh moving to the consent
1:34:39
calender uh due to an oversight uh uh
1:34:43
item number 7f should have been listed
1:34:47
under regular business that's agenda
1:34:49
Bill
1:34:50
7219 Gilman lofs peren three Trail
1:34:54
development agreement and so I will add
1:34:57
that to the regular business agenda as
1:35:02
9f with that I would ask if the accounts
1:35:06
payable and payroll for November 21st
1:35:08
have been reviewed they have yes thank
1:35:11
you uh I would ask now the uh the city
1:35:16
clerk to read into the record the
1:35:18
consent calendar uh as amended the
1:35:22
consent calendar was distributed to
1:35:23
Council in advance for study if
1:35:25
authorized Council action will occur by
1:35:27
single motion regarding the following
1:35:29
items item a seeks approval of the
1:35:31
accounts payables and payroll of
1:35:33
November 21st items B and C seeks
1:35:35
approval of the minutes of the budget
1:35:37
work session of October 26th and the
1:35:39
regular meeting of November 7th item D
1:35:42
AB 7135 Front Street railroad crossing
1:35:45
upgrade seeks acceptance of project item
1:35:48
e AB 7137 Front Street sidewalk and
1:35:51
drainage project seeks acceptance of
1:35:53
project
1:35:54
item gab 7260 amendments to IMC 1.01
1:35:58
code adoption seeks adoption of
1:36:00
ordinance if adopted it will be assigned
1:36:02
number
1:36:03
2785 item H ab27 7281 interfund loan
1:36:07
Fleet Services fund the street
1:36:09
approvement fund seeks adoption of
1:36:11
ordinance if adopted it will be assigned
1:36:13
number
1:36:14
2786 item I AB 7285 reappointment of
1:36:18
hearing examiner seeks confirmation of
1:36:20
appointment and item J AB 7293 2017 Arts
1:36:24
Grant recommendations seeks referral to
1:36:27
council services and Safety Committee
1:36:29
this concludes the reading uh thank you
1:36:32
uh uh for that
1:36:37
uh council president Goodman I'm
1:36:39
assuming nobody wants to bring anything
1:36:41
else down from the consent calendar and
1:36:43
I would move to adopt the consent
1:36:45
calendar as presented second moved in
1:36:48
seconded all those in favor of adopting
1:36:50
the consent calendar as submitted or as
1:36:54
amended uh signify by saying I I those
1:36:58
opposed that carries unanimously moving
1:37:01
now to item number eight a public
1:37:03
hearing agenda Bill
1:37:08
7243 2017 budget uh uh following a a a
1:37:15
short presentation on that item uh I
1:37:19
will then open the uh the Public Public
1:37:22
hearing
1:37:26
thank you mayor Butler city council
1:37:28
members uh agenda
1:37:32
Bill 7243 is a public hearing on the
1:37:36
2017 uh budget for All funds uh
1:37:40
according to state law the city is um
1:37:44
conducting a public hearing on the
1:37:46
budget there has been a filing of the
1:37:49
proposed budget with the clerk's office
1:37:51
on October 3rd and there is also been a
1:37:53
number of work sessions on the budget uh
1:37:56
throughout October as well as in uh uh
1:38:00
in November on the
1:38:02
14th for the November 7th council
1:38:04
meeting the city council conducted the
1:38:06
required public hearing on Revenue
1:38:08
sources uh for the 2017 budget and that
1:38:12
included uh potential increases in the
1:38:14
property tax levy so I'd like to do a
1:38:17
brief presentation um on the 2017 budget
1:38:21
and then talk about next steps
1:38:25
so the two the 2017 budget um overview
1:38:29
uh is that the budget includes Capital
1:38:31
Investments and operating impacts um it
1:38:34
um Works to maintain the current level
1:38:36
of services while some of the important
1:38:38
challenges with regards to Capital
1:38:40
Investments are being addressed uh and
1:38:42
just to let U the public know is that
1:38:44
the budget is available on the city's
1:38:47
website uh and that is at isqua
1:38:50
w.gov uh 2017 budget um the uh path
1:38:55
there is is a little bit cumbersome so
1:38:56
it is easier for the public to reach um
1:39:00
through the city's website the document
1:39:02
is also available uh at locations around
1:39:05
the community as well as in City
1:39:07
Hall 2017 revenues are proposed to be
1:39:11
approximately
1:39:14
$16,500 390 the majority of Revenue
1:39:18
sources do come from charges for
1:39:19
services with the second uh largest
1:39:22
source
1:39:24
uh taxes and there's a variety of
1:39:25
different
1:39:29
taxes 2017 Appropriations then proposed
1:39:33
for spending at 133
1:39:37
m651
1:39:38
550 across all funds uh that are tracked
1:39:42
for the city of isqua the largest fund
1:39:45
is the general fund you can see that 33%
1:39:47
of the proposed
1:39:49
Appropriations uh are for general fund
1:39:51
purposes uh there are a number of small
1:39:55
or separate utility uh capital projects
1:39:58
Street capital projects um miscellaneous
1:40:01
capital projects and park Improvement
1:40:04
projects some of the highlights in the
1:40:06
2017 budget are city council goals and
1:40:10
directions one of which is a proposed
1:40:12
strategic plan initiative there are some
1:40:15
Human Services initiatives to enhance
1:40:17
Senior Services support affordable
1:40:19
housing and some new community grants
1:40:24
development services department within
1:40:25
the general fund uh some of the impacts
1:40:28
to this budget are related to the
1:40:30
moratorium uh the work in the pipeline
1:40:33
that is uh identified as declining and
1:40:36
then proposed DSD fee
1:40:39
increases the budget includes Staffing
1:40:42
proposals that respond to uh things such
1:40:45
as public records requests and increase
1:40:47
in those uh additional neighborhood
1:40:50
engagement and citizen engagement and
1:40:52
then it continued investment in the
1:40:54
software and Key Systems uh to
1:40:56
incorporate our lean process
1:40:59
improvements on the Utility Fund side
1:41:02
the South Cove uh Greenwood Point
1:41:04
annexation operating and capital
1:41:06
expenditures are included in uh water
1:41:09
and sewer fund budgets and then there as
1:41:12
I mentioned the capital projects a
1:41:13
variety of transportation and capital
1:41:15
projects have been identified uh in the
1:41:18
upcoming Year's budget some of those
1:41:20
projects are offset by Grant or
1:41:22
mitigation fund sources
1:41:25
the city council has been deliberating
1:41:26
the 2017 budget uh there are two budget
1:41:29
work sessions that were identified by
1:41:32
Council and that is uh later in November
1:41:35
and then uh early uh Saturday in
1:41:38
December and so the the discussion item
1:41:41
for you tonight and the recommendation
1:41:43
is that you would open the public
1:41:45
hearing for the 2017 budget and then
1:41:47
continue that public hearing to December
1:41:49
5th
1:41:51
2016 I'd be happy to answer any question
1:41:53
questions are there questions of uh
1:41:58
Jen seeing none then I will open the
1:42:02
public hearing at uh
1:42:06
8:41 and remind those in the audience
1:42:09
that uh the same rules for uh audience
1:42:13
comments as I previously outlined uh
1:42:16
apply to the uh the public hearing has
1:42:19
anyone signed up to speak no one has
1:42:22
signed up
1:42:23
is there anyone in the public Desiring
1:42:25
to speak this
1:42:29
evening Mary
1:42:38
Lynch my name is Mary Lynch and I recite
1:42:41
at 2690 Northwest oest Drive isaquel
1:42:44
Washington first I just like to comment
1:42:46
on the senior center um when we met uh
1:42:50
and were invited to come and talk over
1:42:52
it tibits in June those of us there were
1:42:56
told that the city was looking at what
1:42:58
to do next with the senior center and
1:43:00
we'd be kept informed of what was
1:43:02
happening the only way I've really and
1:43:04
most of us have learned what's going on
1:43:06
is to read the isqua press or the
1:43:08
reporter and I would ask that for those
1:43:11
of us that attended that meeting that
1:43:13
the city as promised because we we
1:43:16
signed up to get alerts and to get
1:43:18
notification on what was happening I
1:43:20
would ask that you send updates to those
1:43:23
people that ask for that so we know
1:43:25
what's going on because I tried to read
1:43:27
through the budget and I found very very
1:43:29
little comments on what was happening
1:43:31
with the senior center I was not able to
1:43:34
attend the meeting that uh TOA marks
1:43:36
talked about I'll go back and listen to
1:43:38
that but I really think the city needs
1:43:40
to be a lot more transparent on what's
1:43:42
happening with the senior center what's
1:43:44
going forward and one of the main
1:43:47
reasons is you've got a vast amount of
1:43:49
resources here with seniors and you've
1:43:51
got a lot of retired executives people
1:43:53
that would be very much interested in
1:43:55
being involved and in the past have been
1:43:57
turned away or not involved and if you
1:44:00
look around at other successful senior
1:44:02
centers the majority of their FTE are
1:44:06
volunteers and I would hope that you are
1:44:09
more transparent going forward and that
1:44:13
your plans are um incorporating the
1:44:16
seniors and are based the whole premise
1:44:19
is based upon seniors being the people
1:44:22
that are delivering Services you still
1:44:24
need to have City there for oversight
1:44:27
and to help maintain the buildings that
1:44:29
being said um at the Oldtown meeting I
1:44:32
gave my input I really think the
1:44:34
building itself is totally underutilized
1:44:37
I think as part of the post you need to
1:44:39
look at that building and say how else
1:44:41
can it be utilized not just as a senior
1:44:43
center but as a center there's very few
1:44:46
public meeting rooms here in the city of
1:44:48
issaqua and trying to get a public
1:44:50
meeting room is an act to Congress most
1:44:52
of our our homeowners association
1:44:54
nonprofits don't have a lot of money so
1:44:56
we can't afford to go and rent a hotel
1:44:58
room or you know if there is then it's
1:45:02
very hard to find even a a professional
1:45:04
meeting room and so there's rooms there
1:45:06
that could be very easily used at night
1:45:09
and other times of the day for meeting
1:45:11
rooms and other sorts of activities and
1:45:13
I would hope that you really look at
1:45:15
that building and put it to its full
1:45:17
utilization I would hope so going
1:45:19
forward that you also look at making
1:45:21
sure the kitchen is brought up to
1:45:23
standards so if you do have Community
1:45:25
meals that can be your your kitchen
1:45:27
that's used for Community meals so it
1:45:29
does pass your uh King County U health
1:45:32
standards and you can use that for such
1:45:35
um that being said on the senior plan
1:45:38
just in the budget in particular I know
1:45:41
the you heard from the planning and
1:45:43
policies um chair I would hope that
1:45:47
going forward based upon the budget that
1:45:49
you update your levels of service
1:45:51
indicators from your 20 six and bring
1:45:54
those up to standards so when you're
1:45:55
really looking at the budget and you're
1:45:57
planning your Capital plans it's based
1:46:00
on today's level of service indicators
1:46:03
not on 2006 thank
1:46:06
you thank you uh Mary is there anyone
1:46:09
else Desiring to
1:46:12
speak anyone else Desiring to speak
1:46:16
third and final call anyone else
1:46:18
Desiring to speak seeing no one then uh
1:46:21
the public hearing is closed at
1:46:25
8:45 is it closed FR or we continuing it
1:46:29
oh a to
1:46:32
continue make a mo yes council president
1:46:37
good one well I think it's a good I
1:46:38
think it's a good question because
1:46:39
usually if you continue you don't we're
1:46:42
we're going to continue it on December
1:46:44
5th yeah so I would move to continue the
1:46:47
public hearing to the December 5th 2016
1:46:49
council meeting dang it thank you
1:46:55
are there questions or
1:46:58
discussion um I uh I was thinking um
1:47:02
during some of the comments um that uh
1:47:06
reminded me of
1:47:08
um one of the pieces of information that
1:47:11
council member I believe council member
1:47:12
Marts mentioned in um when you were
1:47:14
talking about the update that Services
1:47:16
received on the senior center and it
1:47:18
said that there was money in the 2017
1:47:20
budget for the phase one
1:47:23
which is the interim
1:47:24
operations um so my question um that
1:47:28
doesn't necessarily need to be answered
1:47:29
tonight but for our next budget session
1:47:32
um I would like to know um if there is a
1:47:35
cost associated with phase two in 2017
1:47:38
what that cost is anticipated to be so
1:47:40
we can budget for
1:47:42
that I I could answer that question now
1:47:46
there is that money in the 2017 budget
1:47:50
for phase two and and uh we anticipate
1:47:55
uh phase one lasting throughout
1:47:58
2017 as we evaluate alternatives for how
1:48:03
it should be
1:48:10
operated other questions or sure um a
1:48:13
question just to follow up on Mary
1:48:15
Lynch's comment
1:48:17
about uh indicators service
1:48:20
indicators um that's coming out of
1:48:22
planning policy polic commission there
1:48:23
was a discussion there with staff about
1:48:25
indicators that were older than three
1:48:26
years old older than three years and
1:48:30
whether or not Council would consider
1:48:32
funds in the 2017 budget to upgrade them
1:48:35
this year I I was under the impression
1:48:39
that uh the comment in the planning
1:48:41
policy commission was uh uh plans uh uh
1:48:46
required plans not uh level of service
1:48:50
indicators but I could be wrong can
1:48:53
someone we can just add it to the list
1:48:55
of questions for the budget session okay
1:48:57
let's do
1:48:58
that other questions or
1:49:00
discussion seeing none then all those in
1:49:03
favor of continuing the public hearing
1:49:06
to December the 5th 2016 signify by
1:49:09
saying I I those opposed that carries
1:49:13
unanimously moving now to regular
1:49:15
business agenda Bill
1:49:18
7253 Human Services Grant recommendation
1:49:32
good evening so
1:49:34
I gu so uh Martha from Office of
1:49:38
sustainability and the chair and the
1:49:40
vice chair of our Human Services
1:49:44
Commission yes and so um the chair and
1:49:48
vice chair and I were at services and
1:49:50
safety uh committee meeting on October
1:49:53
27th to present on this item and so um
1:49:57
we're asked to come back for regular
1:49:58
business to uh present again I believe
1:50:01
to full Council um but I also wanted to
1:50:04
give um council member Mars an
1:50:06
opportunity if you'd like to make any
1:50:07
opening remarks before we jump into our
1:50:11
presentation uh no okay
1:50:15
great makes but thank you for the offer
1:50:17
um so our chair Derek Franklin will uh
1:50:20
speak to the process that the commission
1:50:22
went through and then our vice chair
1:50:24
Elizabeth um will summarize the
1:50:26
recommendations coming out of the
1:50:31
commission thank you Martha um Mr Mayor
1:50:34
members of the council Derek Franklin
1:50:36
chair of the Human Services Commission
1:50:38
and uh as Martha laid out I we'll just
1:50:40
talk for a few minutes about our process
1:50:42
and coming to uh recommendations for
1:50:45
Human Services funding in the uh the
1:50:47
upcoming 1718 cycle um uh there are
1:50:51
several process improvements that we
1:50:52
made made after the last funding round
1:50:54
um the process itself has been updated
1:50:57
we established uh a new framework
1:50:59
including goal areas from the city and
1:51:01
adopted uh funding guidelines these Aid
1:51:04
us aided the Commission in organizing
1:51:06
applications for funding and focused our
1:51:08
deliberations and scoring discussions
1:51:10
those five goal areas include one uh
1:51:13
food to eat and having a roof overhead
1:51:16
two supportive relationships within
1:51:18
families neighborhoods and communities
1:51:21
three Safe Haven from all forms of
1:51:23
violence and abuse four Health Care to
1:51:27
be as physically and mentally fit as
1:51:29
possible and five education and job
1:51:32
skills to lead an independent life um
1:51:35
our process started with uh training and
1:51:37
orientation uh this last spring uh the
1:51:40
staff did a very thorough job and
1:51:42
orienting uh the commission members uh
1:51:44
especially given the high turnover this
1:51:45
year on the commission we felt that was
1:51:47
uh critical we learned uh about the
1:51:49
online scoring process the goal areas
1:51:52
service elements within the city's
1:51:54
funding guidelines uh next our process
1:51:56
included uh four months of twice monthly
1:51:59
meetings uh there this extra time we
1:52:01
felt uh was planned uh due to a
1:52:03
significant increase in the number of
1:52:05
applications received uh 57 applications
1:52:08
were received for the
1:52:11
201526 cycle requesting
1:52:15
$441,000 annually versus 74 applications
1:52:19
for the 201718 cycle requesting
1:52:23
$694,900
1:52:52
ations uh we scored uh the grants uh and
1:52:56
made initial funding recommendations
1:52:57
within each of the five goal areas uh
1:53:00
these included or this effort included
1:53:01
online scoring of each individual
1:53:04
application including ratings on quality
1:53:06
of the service and outcomes proposed for
1:53:08
the city uh cultural
1:53:11
competency applicability of service to
1:53:13
isqua Residents coordination of service
1:53:16
within the Regional Human Service
1:53:18
Network diversity and comprehensiveness
1:53:21
of budget portfolios alignment with City
1:53:23
goal areas and Human Service elements
1:53:25
and then finally uh our second and final
1:53:27
round of deliberations uh is where we re
1:53:30
uh made recommendations and refined them
1:53:33
within each of the goal areas with
1:53:34
consideration to the overall mix of
1:53:37
programs so as to be comprehensive in
1:53:39
the
1:53:40
recommendation um here each individual
1:53:43
uh application was discussed and in
1:53:46
terms of maximizing its impact for
1:53:49
residents uh and how as I said those
1:53:51
would fit into aort portfolio that would
1:53:53
balance both prevention of efforts that
1:53:55
we could forecast being of an issue to
1:53:57
the city and intervention services that
1:54:00
would provide uh support for those in
1:54:02
need um overall we found an increased
1:54:05
level of needs in the community
1:54:07
especially for our most vulnerable
1:54:08
residents our youth our seniors uh
1:54:11
people with disabilities victims of
1:54:13
various forms of abuse and people
1:54:15
experiencing homelessness uh to have to
1:54:18
strategically recommend that many very
1:54:19
worthy resources not be funded or
1:54:22
received less than wased uh requested
1:54:24
was quite difficult uh now I'll just
1:54:26
turn it over to our uh Vice chair
1:54:29
Elizabeth for specifics around our
1:54:34
recommendations thank
1:54:37
you I'm not in best voice but I'll do
1:54:39
what I
1:54:41
can um the commission recommended
1:54:44
funding Human Service grants at the
1:54:47
increased funding level we considered
1:54:51
that as May major funders were narrowing
1:54:54
their focus some of the services which
1:54:56
have been valuable to this community
1:54:59
will have little revenue from those
1:55:02
formerly reliable
1:55:06
sources this was also a consideration in
1:55:09
our recommendation of the increased
1:55:12
funding in some
1:55:15
cases we also looked at the Spectrum of
1:55:18
services across different sectors to
1:55:20
maintain a balance best starts for kids
1:55:23
is going to help with funding some of
1:55:26
the early age prevention
1:55:28
programs on the other hand Services for
1:55:32
Seniors are an example of an area which
1:55:35
is no longer prioritized by the United
1:55:38
Way and many other
1:55:40
funders and this at a time when our
1:55:42
senior population is growing and many
1:55:45
seniors in our community are feeling the
1:55:47
financial pinch of increased housing
1:55:51
costs transitional
1:55:53
housing is also an area that's being
1:55:56
hard
1:55:57
hit and we have some really good
1:56:01
transitional housing programs that
1:56:04
deserve to
1:56:07
survive
1:56:10
um we tried to make recommendations
1:56:13
reflecting the commission's
1:56:15
goals um those goals included limiting
1:56:19
redundancies in funding
1:56:23
in this we and uh also another goal was
1:56:27
providing more meaningful Grant
1:56:30
amounts prioritizing shelter and
1:56:34
housing incorporating several new
1:56:36
programs to address needs not previously
1:56:39
supported by city
1:56:42
funding with regard to the
1:56:45
redundancies we look to see which
1:56:47
agencies provided identical or extremely
1:56:51
similar services to local residents and
1:56:54
tried to select the most effective among
1:56:57
these for funding rather than
1:56:59
Distributing the resources among several
1:57:01
different
1:57:03
organizations this strategy enabled us
1:57:06
to fund the easts side friends of
1:57:08
seniors at a higher amount rather than
1:57:11
funding both Eastside friends of seniors
1:57:13
and sound Generations volunteer
1:57:19
Transportation under providing more
1:57:22
meaningful grants in other words higher
1:57:25
amounts for a particular Grant we
1:57:27
realize that for any Grant application
1:57:29
there's quite a bit of work involved in
1:57:31
grant writing than in required reporting
1:57:35
so that in the case of very small Grant
1:57:37
requests much of the money would have
1:57:39
been consumed in administrative
1:57:43
costs this led us to eliminate some
1:57:46
worthy organizations with the hope that
1:57:48
they would easily find this funding
1:57:50
elsewhere
1:57:53
but it allowed us to make more
1:57:54
meaningful grants to some good
1:57:56
organizations whose ability to provide
1:57:58
the needed Services has been limited by
1:58:01
inadequate
1:58:04
funding third we prioritized shelter and
1:58:07
housing because they are so critical to
1:58:11
well-being keeping people housed
1:58:13
rehousing those who are without
1:58:16
shelter and providing safe shelter to
1:58:19
those still waiting for housing that
1:58:21
they can afford are vital to maintaining
1:58:25
a healthy stable community no one can
1:58:29
Thrive without a stable
1:58:32
home um fourth incorporating several new
1:58:36
programs to address needs not previously
1:58:39
supported by city funding these included
1:58:42
Employment Services Behavioral Health
1:58:45
Services for adults and day Center
1:58:47
Services for Families experiencing
1:58:51
homelessness do you have any
1:58:54
questions are there questions of
1:58:56
Elizabeth or Jerry and your voice held
1:58:59
out up pretty good Elizabeth Halls
1:59:04
helps council member batist followed by
1:59:07
council member winterstein I do I got a
1:59:10
a couple of questions for you but first
1:59:12
of all I just wanted to thank uh all of
1:59:15
the members of the Human Services
1:59:17
Commission and the city staff that have
1:59:19
worked so hard on the Human Service is
1:59:22
Grant recommendations I see a lot of the
1:59:25
uh commission members here tonight and
1:59:27
thank you for coming and for spending
1:59:30
all of this time after your many
1:59:32
meetings that you have been through um
1:59:35
this is an incredibly in-depth and time
1:59:38
consuming process that the commission
1:59:40
goes through and the thoughtful
1:59:42
deliberation that goes along with this
1:59:44
review really um I want to applaud that
1:59:48
and really point that out and and thank
1:59:50
you for your time and your and your
1:59:52
service to the city um I also wanted to
1:59:55
say before I ask a couple of questions
1:59:58
that I'm in full support of the
1:59:59
identified funding targets uh to help
2:00:02
the city achieve their goal of Human
2:00:04
Services grant funding at $10 per capita
2:00:08
on an annual basis with the additional
2:00:10
allocation for homelessness services and
2:00:13
as Elizabeth spoke to um the targeted
2:00:18
funding that is now uh going on through
2:00:20
some of the larger aen gencies is um
2:00:23
having an impact with some of the the
2:00:26
groups and the programs um that that
2:00:29
need that funding and um after spending
2:00:33
a few years on the Human Services
2:00:35
Commission myself and uh going through
2:00:38
these tough deliberations and there's
2:00:40
never enough money and there's all all
2:00:43
always um applicants that um do a great
2:00:47
job and it's such a tough uh decision
2:00:50
that has to be made
2:00:52
um so this was the first time that you
2:00:55
used the adoption of the goal areas um
2:00:59
in the process and I was just wondering
2:01:02
I'd like to hear feedback on how you
2:01:04
feel it impacted the process this
2:01:07
year do you want to address that one go
2:01:10
ahead I'll step in after I can
2:01:13
go no thank you for the question the uh
2:01:16
uh this was my uh first uh first round
2:01:19
of deliberations and so I don't have a
2:01:21
historic iCal context however uh my
2:01:24
experience in working with the goal
2:01:26
areas was helpful and that it allowed us
2:01:28
to stay on point somewhat as we tried to
2:01:31
filter through the the diverse kinds of
2:01:34
applicants that we received uh having uh
2:01:37
City staff and the city provide the
2:01:39
commission uh some guidance ahead of
2:01:41
time in towards what the uh uh how to
2:01:47
interpret the mission of the city in
2:01:48
terms of its priorities for Human
2:01:50
Services was helpful um when we uh
2:01:53
actually Ed the five uh goal areas uh to
2:01:56
organize uh and cluster those
2:01:58
applications some of those clusters had
2:02:01
upwards of 20 applicants others had as
2:02:03
few as five and and that was determined
2:02:07
not by the clustering so much as it was
2:02:09
by the kinds of applicants that we
2:02:11
received uh we took that into
2:02:13
consideration um uh not balancing by
2:02:16
number of applicants but again looking
2:02:18
towards what those applicants
2:02:20
individually would be able to serve
2:02:22
both to that goal area but then how
2:02:24
those goal areas would overlap and try
2:02:26
to give some sort of a comprehensive
2:02:28
support to the city's broader Human
2:02:31
Service agenda um and I don't know
2:02:33
Martha if you wanted to add anything
2:02:35
else you were have maybe the history of
2:02:37
setting up those goal areas so sure um
2:02:40
so those goal areas uh formerly were
2:02:42
used by United Way of King County
2:02:44
actually and have been adopted by cities
2:02:46
of Belleview Redmond and Kirkland and so
2:02:49
one of the kind of benefits that we were
2:02:52
hoping to realize and I think we did in
2:02:55
the process was with so many
2:02:57
applications being able to more quickly
2:02:59
kind of recognize similar programs and
2:03:02
compare um so to Elizabeth's point at
2:03:04
looking okay we have two volunteer
2:03:06
Transportation programs right so let's
2:03:08
call that out early on and take that
2:03:10
into consideration um rather than
2:03:12
looking at these applications kind of in
2:03:14
isolation isolation from each
2:03:18
other and one more question I I did see
2:03:21
that you have some uh some new agencies
2:03:25
that were funding funded that was really
2:03:27
exciting to hear um some of the
2:03:30
testimony tonight um but also a few
2:03:33
long-term local programs that had been
2:03:36
funded in the past that were not funded
2:03:40
uh during this round um is there um do
2:03:43
you uh have you thought about following
2:03:46
up with those groups since this is a new
2:03:49
process and sort of a different way of
2:03:53
going
2:03:54
about the funding yes absolutely and
2:03:56
especially with the change in the
2:03:58
commissions process we tried to provide
2:04:00
a lot of information up front in the
2:04:02
application process so these
2:04:03
applications actually opened in February
2:04:05
or March um and so we tried to provide
2:04:08
some lead information um with the new
2:04:12
expectations that we had from our
2:04:14
process so the city's put together a
2:04:15
data workshop for applicants and
2:04:18
provided two uh application workshops
2:04:21
where each City could kind of speak
2:04:22
specifically to what they were looking
2:04:24
for in applications and provide guidance
2:04:26
to applicants um so staff um or I made
2:04:30
myself available to applicants ahead of
2:04:32
time to review applications give
2:04:34
pointers because again we were
2:04:36
introducing some new elements in our
2:04:37
process um and so wanted to provide um
2:04:41
as much help and guidance as possible to
2:04:43
to our nonprofits um and so to speak so
2:04:46
there are six organizations um that are
2:04:49
currently receiving funding that haven't
2:04:50
been recommended for the next round um
2:04:53
and so all of the applicants received an
2:04:56
update about the process and two of them
2:04:59
um two of those six have already reached
2:05:00
out um and so we've had an opportunity
2:05:03
to to speak um about you know what
2:05:06
changed the process and um factors that
2:05:11
produced this package of recommendations
2:05:13
that didn't include their
2:05:14
organization okay thank you again for
2:05:17
all your hard work on
2:05:19
this council member winterstein thank
2:05:22
you I want to Echo council member batis
2:05:24
um um kudos to the commission I know
2:05:27
it's a lot of hard work and I I always
2:05:29
felt that um if every one of our citizen
2:05:32
volunteers brought the same level of
2:05:34
passion uh to their work that members of
2:05:37
the Human Service Commission do then uh
2:05:39
it would be a different place that we
2:05:41
live into I'm really very grateful for
2:05:43
the passion and the commitment for all
2:05:45
for from everybody on the commission I
2:05:47
do have one just kind of kind of house
2:05:49
cleaning question as much as anything in
2:05:51
our packet material and there's an
2:05:53
exhibit B that's part of of this agenda
2:05:55
Bill and and I'm I'm somewhat confused
2:05:57
by the headings of that table um it says
2:06:00
2016 funding and then
2:06:02
201718 annual request so in 2016 is the
2:06:07
second year of a two-year cycle now this
2:06:10
recommendations
2:06:11
are uh we're considering our are part of
2:06:14
a two-year cycle but then it goes on to
2:06:16
say the 20156 funding level and then the
2:06:20
um um The increased funding level and I
2:06:24
just I can't make heads or tails of
2:06:26
those look at the first one uh food and
2:06:28
clothing bank 2016 funding 19,000 I look
2:06:31
two columns over it says 20156 funding
2:06:35
level 15,000 uh and and then increase
2:06:38
level 15 well that's less than 19 that
2:06:40
they were getting right now so and I
2:06:42
know their recommendation was only 15 so
2:06:44
or request yes did just help me
2:06:46
understand those columns better yes so
2:06:48
back in February March of this year uh
2:06:51
we came to council to seek a funding
2:06:53
Target of
2:06:55
371,000 but and which Council set we're
2:07:00
um happy to have but the commission
2:07:02
recognized that that was a Target um and
2:07:04
part of a what would become part of a
2:07:06
proposed budget that um May ultimately
2:07:09
be adjusted um especially working in
2:07:12
February and March um right not having
2:07:15
quite the same forecast that we have now
2:07:18
um so the commission wanted to be
2:07:20
prepared and have a set of
2:07:21
recommendations for that Target but also
2:07:23
in case that increased funding level um
2:07:27
was dropped to kind of status quo
2:07:30
funding level the commission wanted to
2:07:31
be prepared and not have to kind of go
2:07:33
back to the drawing board this late in
2:07:35
the year to develop a new set of
2:07:37
recommendations so it's really a kind of
2:07:39
options A and B for those last two
2:07:41
columns with the commission absolutely
2:07:44
um recommending The increased funding
2:07:46
level that aligns with the funding
2:07:48
Target and what ultimately was included
2:07:50
in the proposed budget and then to speak
2:07:53
to the food and clothing bank
2:07:55
specifically did I not answer the
2:07:57
question that yeah I just use as an
2:07:59
example maybe this is mislabeled in this
2:08:01
table the second the third column says
2:08:03
the 2015 2016 funding level so sorry so
2:08:06
that's just um it's an indicator that
2:08:09
these recommendations total this it'd be
2:08:12
the same funding level as current so it
2:08:14
would be
2:08:17
2915 plus the targeted funding for
2:08:20
homeless services so it's like the it's
2:08:22
like saying the status quo funding
2:08:27
level okay so you have two sets of
2:08:29
recommendations yes yeah one if um we
2:08:33
approve the total amount that we
2:08:35
originally gave you as a Target and the
2:08:38
second one is if we uh don't improve
2:08:40
that in approve that increase and just
2:08:42
keep the funding level where we have it
2:08:44
at 2016 okay okay yeah there options A
2:08:48
and B dep depending on the funding
2:08:50
amount that we approve okay thank you
2:08:51
thank
2:08:53
you other
2:08:55
questions this is coming back from oh
2:08:58
council president no I was anticipating
2:09:00
what the mayor was going to
2:09:02
say um so um can we just clear up maybe
2:09:07
it's just for me um this is a two-year
2:09:09
Grant cycle um and so would the first
2:09:13
year be 2017 yes and that would be what
2:09:16
is that's in the agenda Bill the um
2:09:19
requested amount would be 37 1
2:09:23
3715 yes um it's a 2-year Grant
2:09:29
cycle um tell me what that means I don't
2:09:33
understand what the process is so we
2:09:34
only go through the application process
2:09:36
once every two years okay and so then um
2:09:38
we'll be putting forward the same
2:09:40
recommendations next year when budget
2:09:42
cycle is happening okay but it'll be a
2:09:44
new agenda Bill
2:09:45
obviously in a year from now yeah okay
2:09:48
yeah so you're only committing to 2017
2:09:50
recommendations
2:09:54
um and
2:09:55
then I don't know if there are other
2:09:58
questions but I did want to um Echo the
2:10:02
um thank yous for all the work that you
2:10:03
do it's very much appreciated I know
2:10:06
it's a many months of work and it's very
2:10:08
hard work and you're very dedicated in
2:10:10
it um that's that's very important and
2:10:12
we thank you the at our budget work
2:10:15
session last week I mentioned um that I
2:10:18
would like a spreadsheet that shows all
2:10:20
of the um agencies or all the
2:10:22
organizations and agencies I guess that
2:10:26
um in the budget have there there's
2:10:27
proposed funding because it's hard for
2:10:29
us to see um where all of the funding is
2:10:34
and in one snapshot and um to see where
2:10:38
um all the different buckets that the
2:10:40
money comes from we don't have that
2:10:41
spreadsheet yet which is understandable
2:10:44
um because that's just that was just
2:10:45
last Wednesday so I don't know what the
2:10:47
timeliness is of this agenda bill um
2:10:52
um if there's some sort of a time um
2:10:55
time constraint here I'm thinking no
2:10:56
because it is in the bud budget for next
2:10:58
year and so if there's not a time
2:11:01
constraint rather than take a vote
2:11:02
tonight I was going to um uh make a
2:11:07
motion to diver the vote on this agenda
2:11:09
Bill to the December 5th council meeting
2:11:12
because um that gives us time to have
2:11:15
our next two budget work sessions and um
2:11:18
have that spreadsheet so that we have a
2:11:21
for transparency reasons see all the
2:11:23
different um agencies and organizations
2:11:25
that have funding in the budget and uh
2:11:28
where the funding comes
2:11:31
from I'm I'm sorry I don't I don't quite
2:11:34
follow so this we still have to do the
2:11:37
appropriation as part of the formal
2:11:39
budget adoption so the the ask in in
2:11:42
this would
2:11:43
be um based upon two potential funding
2:11:47
levels that we would approve the grant
2:11:50
recommendation a that made by the
2:11:52
commission so what additional
2:11:53
information do we are you still looking
2:11:55
for um
2:11:58
so I guess then the question first
2:12:01
before we answer that is if I've
2:12:02
misunderstood if the mo the recommended
2:12:05
motion is to approve the grant
2:12:06
recommendations as presented and so what
2:12:08
does that technically
2:12:11
mean that's for the administration Bob
2:12:14
what does that mean if we were to make
2:12:16
if we were to vote to approve the Human
2:12:18
Services Grant recommendations as
2:12:20
presented
2:12:21
so
2:12:25
there's all right got it that time so um
2:12:29
the uh so it depends on the allocation
2:12:32
amount so if you end up accepting it at
2:12:33
the 371 level essentially what you're
2:12:36
doing is you're uh directing uh the
2:12:39
administration that the amount that's in
2:12:41
the budget is essentially okay and so
2:12:43
you're allocating all the various
2:12:45
recommendations to the non uh you know
2:12:48
to the service agencies if you decide
2:12:50
that you'd like to come in at the same
2:12:52
amount then what I would suggest is you
2:12:54
refer that to deliberations because
2:12:56
you're really cutting the budget by uh
2:12:58
approximately 35 $40,000 because the
2:13:01
allocation that's in the in the budget
2:13:04
is that that that higher number um but
2:13:07
in essence what you're doing tonight is
2:13:09
just approving the recommendations to
2:13:11
the funding for the service levels at
2:13:13
that
2:13:14
$371,000 and so then you think that's
2:13:17
correct no because they've got two
2:13:19
recommendations in here they've provided
2:13:21
two recommendations one at the $321
2:13:23
500,000 level and the other one at the
2:13:25
371 500 so what's and and they have it
2:13:28
broken out by agency and what amount
2:13:31
that they would recommend that we Grant
2:13:33
depending on which one which level we
2:13:35
actually approve in the future so it
2:13:38
seems to me the action and the requests
2:13:40
should we make a motion or as suggested
2:13:43
here would be this breakout of Grants
2:13:45
amounts depending on which amount we
2:13:47
totally fund we would just be accepting
2:13:50
these Grant amounts per agency that's to
2:13:53
me that's I don't know what additional
2:13:54
information we would
2:13:56
need so this is coming back from
2:13:58
services safety to do you want to
2:14:02
comment yes um looking at the language
2:14:05
of this we have flat funding level and
2:14:07
increased funding level which as council
2:14:09
member winterstein pointed out is 321
2:14:12
versus 371 as I read it it does not
2:14:15
specify that this evening we would be
2:14:18
choosing increased funding level it just
2:14:20
says go with the recommendation or go
2:14:22
with the uh uh approval of the funding
2:14:26
recommendations and placement of this
2:14:27
item under regular business and then
2:14:29
later that the suggested motion was
2:14:31
approve the Human Services grant me
2:14:32
recommendations as presented which
2:14:34
includes both the flat funding level and
2:14:37
the increased funding level so I can I
2:14:39
see the I see the argument that unless
2:14:41
we specifically change the language
2:14:43
we're not choosing between the 371 and
2:14:45
the 321 today but I'm but I am not a
2:14:49
lawyer I am but a poor engineer you so's
2:14:53
a lawyer yeah no so well yes but that's
2:14:57
not why I'm here the um so yes the
2:15:01
motion um clearly needs to be specifi
2:15:04
specified which level we would want to
2:15:06
adopt um that is that is a different
2:15:08
question um my um issue is that um uh we
2:15:13
do not have Allin one place all the list
2:15:16
a spreadsheet if you will of all of the
2:15:19
organizations SL a agencies um that are
2:15:22
receiving funding from the budget and so
2:15:25
you can't go anywhere in the budget and
2:15:27
and find it you have to flip back and
2:15:29
forth and if you flip back and forth
2:15:30
through the three different agenda bills
2:15:32
we have in the packet tonight um
2:15:34
different um agencies are mentioned more
2:15:37
than once and so for transparency
2:15:39
reasons um I would like to have that
2:15:41
spreadsheet first which we would have
2:15:45
after our one or both of our next work
2:15:48
sessions and if there's no timeliness
2:15:50
issue um regarding this agenda bill and
2:15:53
the next agenda bill because I'll be
2:15:54
asking the same thing possibly um then I
2:15:57
would um I would prefer to defer the
2:16:00
vote on this to the December 5th council
2:16:02
meeting uh it's not because I have any
2:16:03
issues with the recommendation certainly
2:16:05
not at this point um it's just a matter
2:16:07
of getting all of the um um all of the
2:16:11
funding that's in the budget in one
2:16:13
place we don't have that
2:16:16
yet may I ask if the administration
2:16:18
believes there's any time constraints
2:16:20
associated with with this that would
2:16:21
cause a problem by I'm seeing head nods
2:16:24
now no they're not not
2:16:26
you I certainly feel as as uh committee
2:16:29
chair under the measure twice cut once
2:16:32
concept that if there are council
2:16:34
members here at the de that have um
2:16:36
questions before you move forward uh
2:16:38
clearly you've heard consistent support
2:16:41
for uh the Human Services Commission and
2:16:44
I will I have to add as an aside um most
2:16:46
of you know that my daughter was on the
2:16:48
Human Services Commission for 3 years
2:16:50
and she was so inspired her freshman
2:16:52
year of high school she told me she
2:16:54
didn't enjoy social studies which you
2:16:56
can imagine as a politician how that how
2:16:58
that felt but after three years of
2:17:00
trudging around her big binder uh she is
2:17:03
uh uh probably going to major in
2:17:05
political science
2:17:07
so such is the power of the Human
2:17:09
Services Commission having said that um
2:17:11
I I would certainly support deferring it
2:17:13
until uh December 5th so would you like
2:17:17
to make a motion well I I I do know one
2:17:20
my fellow council members seems to want
2:17:22
to speak to
2:17:24
this um I just want to also support the
2:17:26
December 5th I think there is um uh not
2:17:29
any reason to not um be able to see the
2:17:32
entire package um I definitely will be
2:17:35
supporting uh the increased um funding
2:17:38
level and and as you go through here
2:17:40
there is just um a little bit of
2:17:43
additional help for a lot of agencies
2:17:44
that really need some additional help
2:17:46
and thank you to the uh group with your
2:17:50
very thoughtful deliberation I've sat on
2:17:53
that committee before and it is really
2:17:55
difficult to work through all of those
2:17:57
numbers and all of those agencies and I
2:17:59
think breaking it down into the five
2:18:01
different classifications that you did
2:18:03
this year really would have been very
2:18:05
helpful in past years trying to
2:18:08
understand um where all these dollars
2:18:10
are going um the the increased uh
2:18:14
funding um it just provides very basic
2:18:18
needs of shelter and food and and clo
2:18:21
um so um December 5th I think would
2:18:25
bring all of the different uh
2:18:28
possibilities together so that we can
2:18:30
look at everything at one time um and
2:18:33
make sure that we are supporting all
2:18:35
that need it but um I will at this
2:18:38
moment be supporting the 371 that you've
2:18:40
got presented
2:18:43
here Mr Mayor do I need to make a motion
2:18:45
to to move it to December 5th or someone
2:18:48
does Okay so
2:18:51
um so I will move referring agenda Bill
2:18:55
7253 I believe it is to the December 5th
2:18:59
full council meeting under regular
2:19:02
business second moved in seconded uh
2:19:05
discussion or additional
2:19:09
questions yeah I just want to be um I'm
2:19:12
still not clear to me what additional
2:19:14
information we think we're going to be
2:19:16
gathering what beyond what we already
2:19:18
have so um in two of the agenda bills
2:19:21
tonight for example there's uh mentioned
2:19:23
in more than one place of uh different
2:19:25
organizations um at work for one is
2:19:27
Village Theater and I think it would be
2:19:30
um uh like I said for transparency
2:19:34
reasons to have all in one place a list
2:19:36
of the organizations and all of the
2:19:37
funding that they are receiving um or
2:19:40
are proposed to receive in the budget
2:19:41
and um from where that funding is is
2:19:45
coming that's all it's not it's not um
2:19:48
new it's a compilation of information
2:19:50
that's spread out over U different genda
2:19:52
bills and throughout the uh budget
2:19:54
document that's
2:19:57
all it seems like it's not too difficult
2:20:00
for me to find all that information in
2:20:01
today's packet so we're not so I don't I
2:20:04
don't have no reason to um I would like
2:20:08
us to progress and get things done I
2:20:10
think we've got everything we need for
2:20:11
the Human Services allocations here um I
2:20:16
I just getting it all in one together
2:20:18
place I agree would be visible but I
2:20:20
haven't heard any
2:20:21
argument that because we are likely to
2:20:23
make some changes um and and all I'm
2:20:25
hearing is support for these Grant
2:20:26
applications so um we got a lot of
2:20:29
budget work in front of us it' be good
2:20:30
to actually check some things off and
2:20:32
get done so I'm not sure why um we can't
2:20:36
vote on that this
2:20:39
evening additional questions or
2:20:45
discussion seeing none then all those in
2:20:48
favor of uh deferring a decision to
2:20:54
December I believe uh uh in order to
2:20:59
look at a compilation of all of the uh
2:21:04
nonprofits receiving uh support from the
2:21:07
city signify by saying I I those
2:21:13
opposed that carries
2:21:17
unanimously okay
2:21:22
moving now to agenda Bill
2:21:25
7265 2017 nonprofit
2:21:29
funding Martha you're still up
2:21:32
there yes um and so uh like the previous
2:21:36
agenda bill um this one was at services
2:21:39
and safety on October
2:21:42
27th um and so I defer to you council
2:21:46
member Mars if you want to if you have
2:21:49
any remarks so had already given um a
2:21:52
report on this um to the full council at
2:21:54
the last Workshop um discussing the the
2:21:57
one substantive difference between uh
2:22:00
the administration's recommendation and
2:22:02
what uh we voted two to one to move
2:22:05
forward with so I I I'm not sure I have
2:22:07
much else to add at this moment to it
2:22:11
okay um and I I don't have much
2:22:14
additional in the way of remarks to make
2:22:16
following our the budget session um
2:22:19
presentation last week so if there are
2:22:21
questions for staff I'm happy to
2:22:25
answer yeah
2:22:28
I I'm I'm going to um go ahead and and
2:22:31
make a motion to refer agenda Bill
2:22:34
7265 to the December 5th full council
2:22:37
meeting uh to be taken up in regular
2:22:40
business second moved in seconded
2:22:43
additional discussion or
2:22:45
questions seeing none all those in favor
2:22:47
of deferring this to the December 5th
2:22:49
meeting signify by saying I I those
2:22:53
opposed carries
2:22:57
unanimously moving now to agenda Bill 20
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uh
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7277 property tax levy
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increase
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uh uh before we we do that uh why don't
2:23:14
we take a short 10-minute uh break uh
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and uh let's
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uh come back at uh
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9:35 uh and we'll now discuss agenda
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Bill
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7277 property tax levy increase for the
2:34:02
presentation uh our finance Finance
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director uh Jennifer Olen please thank
2:34:09
you mayor Butler City Council Members
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this agenda Bill item uh is before you
2:34:14
to consider adoption of an ordinance and
2:34:17
approval of a resolution pertaining to
2:34:19
the 20
2:34:20
2017 uh proposed property tax levy on
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November 7th the council conducted the
2:34:26
required public hearing on Revenue
2:34:28
sources a part of which is information
2:34:31
about a proposed property tax levy along
2:34:34
with other Revenue sources that the city
2:34:36
intends to bring in so to briefly go
2:34:38
over uh the property tax levy the
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property tax levy is proposed in 2017 to
2:34:45
increase by the Limited uh 1% this
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equates to a dollar amount of
2:35:01
$81,400
2:35:02
million and just a side note to remind
2:35:05
the council is that there is also a
2:35:06
voter approved excess debt Levy in the
2:35:09
amount of $1.6 million the the
2:35:12
preliminary uh King County Assessor
2:35:15
assessed valuation uh is over uh eight
2:35:20
um billion dollars in
2:35:25
valuation and just to give another look
2:35:27
at how the property tax levy uh is
2:35:30
referred to uh this equates to a
2:35:32
property tax rate uh in 2016 the
2:35:36
property tax rate for the city of isqua
2:35:38
specifically was a little over a dollar
2:35:40
per thousand uh of assessed valuation
2:35:43
the proposed property tax levy would
2:35:46
reduce the the tax rate for 20 17 uh to
2:35:51
about 98 cents per thousand in assessed
2:35:55
valuation the voter approved excess Levy
2:35:58
is approximately 19 cents per thousand
2:36:01
of assessed valuation property tax uh
2:36:04
valuations have gone up over the past
2:36:06
three years and and even in the proposed
2:36:09
year for 2017 is going up about
2:36:15
6.5% so again on November 7th after the
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public hearing was conducted on Revenue
2:36:20
sources the council directed
2:36:21
Administration to prepare that
2:36:23
legislation for a 1% increase in the
2:36:26
general property tax levy AB
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7277 um provides for the proposed
2:36:34
ordinance and resolution and the
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recommendation is to approve both of
2:36:39
those setting the 2017 regular and
2:36:42
excess
2:36:43
levies and that concludes my
2:36:45
presentation I'd be happy to answer any
2:36:47
questions are there a questions
2:36:51
very thanks Jennifer was the um assess
2:36:54
valuation that's included in these
2:36:56
documents the same as the one that's the
2:36:58
base in our budget document that we're
2:37:00
looking
2:37:01
at uh in these documents we've if we've
2:37:04
had some minor uh updates because the
2:37:07
preliminary assessment comes out so
2:37:09
early in the year we do get another
2:37:11
preliminary assessment the one that's
2:37:13
included in your proposed uh documents
2:37:16
is a minor adjustment but the proposed
2:37:19
Levy is still proposed at that 81,000
2:37:22
the dollar amount
2:37:25
specifically other
2:37:28
questions council president Goodman I
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would move to approve resolution number
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2016-
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19 confirming an increase of the
2:37:38
property tax levy for the city regular
2:37:40
property tax for 2017 at a rate of 1%
2:37:43
over the previous year and adopt
2:37:45
ordinance number
2:37:47
2787 levying The General taxes for the
2:37:50
city of isqua for the fiscal year
2:37:51
commencing January 1st 2017 on all
2:37:55
property both real and personal in said
2:37:57
city which is subject to taxation for
2:37:59
the purpose of paying sufficient Revenue
2:38:01
to carry on the services of said City
2:38:03
for the ensuing year as required by law
2:38:05
second moved in seconded uh questions or
2:38:11
discussion seeing none question question
2:38:15
sorry so the um the rate in this
2:38:19
proposed for the um property
2:38:23
tax is
2:38:25
98 that's for the general regular Lev
2:38:28
the general rate right that's the
2:38:29
estimated
2:38:30
rate n and and what would the rate be if
2:38:34
if we didn't approve
2:38:36
the that uh this 1%
2:38:39
increase uh to get into that um that
2:38:42
minute change uh because we calculate
2:38:46
the the property tax rate uh with five
2:38:49
or six decimal points uh that's a number
2:38:52
I would estimate that it would be more
2:38:54
like 97
2:38:56
cents and that's that's only the purpose
2:38:58
of my question would be it can be very
2:39:01
deceiving when you hear 1% right it
2:39:04
sounds like if I'm a property tax bill
2:39:07
payer in isqua you just approved
2:39:09
increasing my bill by 1% when in fact
2:39:12
that's not what's happening it's the
2:39:14
it's a one we're we're saying we can
2:39:16
collect 1% more than we did in 200
2:39:19
16 uh and yet we're still capped on how
2:39:22
much because assess values are going up
2:39:25
um the actual rate that we're charging
2:39:28
against your property is actually going
2:39:29
down and so if if um and so um if we did
2:39:35
not approve the 1%
2:39:38
increase um the rate would be about
2:39:43
97 that's that's my estim and the
2:39:45
proposal in front of us is 098 and I I
2:39:49
just think that that's um um whereas
2:39:53
last year it was 1.05 or for 2016 it was
2:39:56
1.05 so I just it's it's semantics uh
2:40:00
and I think um I know I need to hear it
2:40:02
again and again and again to get it
2:40:03
straight in my head um that um it's
2:40:06
really it's it's really a dollar amount
2:40:10
percentage that we're saying we can
2:40:12
collect um and be and even though
2:40:15
because assess values are going up the
2:40:17
actual rate we're using to calculate
2:40:19
your dollar amount on your property tax
2:40:21
bill is actually going down and we're
2:40:23
discussing the difference between .98
2:40:26
and 097 uh and that's what we're being
2:40:28
asked to consider this evening again
2:40:30
it's it's it's semantics but I think
2:40:32
it's very very
2:40:34
important thank
2:40:36
you thank you other questions or
2:40:42
discussion seeing none all those in
2:40:45
favor of approving resolution number
2:40:48
2016-19 and ordinance number
2:40:51
2787 signify by saying I I those opposed
2:40:56
that carries unanimously moving to
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agenda Bill
2:41:00
7247 2017 State Legislative
2:41:05
agenda this is coming back from council
2:41:10
member
2:41:16
Goodman it is okay well it went to went
2:41:19
to a work session it was and so it went
2:41:23
to a work session and uh council members
2:41:25
made um several comments about how they
2:41:27
would like to revise the legislative
2:41:29
agenda and we have a um Red Line in here
2:41:34
that shows the
2:41:35
changes um and so um I don't know if uh
2:41:38
Deputy Administrator Emily moon has
2:41:41
some points to make I guess sure just
2:41:44
verbalize what those changes were um and
2:41:47
how the document is organized just for
2:41:49
uh listeners so we have our top priority
2:41:52
issues listed on that front page and
2:41:55
those are meant to be the ones that we
2:41:57
deem most critical to our ongoing
2:42:00
operations and uh implementation of the
2:42:02
community's vision and our lobing
2:42:05
efforts will be focused around those
2:42:08
items and then next section is key
2:42:10
priorities which includes items of
2:42:12
significance to the city and our other
2:42:15
partnering uh cities and coalitions and
2:42:18
then the final section includes subject
2:42:20
matter groupings of other important
2:42:22
topics uh that we intend to support or
2:42:26
oppose or monitor or track and we will
2:42:28
be joining others in uh efforts to um
2:42:33
help the legislators understand the
2:42:35
municipal
2:42:36
perspective um so after the last work
2:42:40
session on November 14th the feedback at
2:42:45
that time from Council Members was to uh
2:42:49
move the transportation section up into
2:42:53
the beginning of the document into that
2:42:55
top priorities section rather than being
2:42:58
alphabetically listed in the second
2:43:00
section of the document and so you'll
2:43:02
see that in the redline version it has
2:43:05
been moved up and to add some additional
2:43:09
narrative uh to uh emphasize our
2:43:12
position on Transportation issues and to
2:43:16
advocate for more and earlier State and
2:43:21
Regional improvements that would benefit
2:43:22
the
2:43:23
city second recommendation was to add a
2:43:26
support statement for the fish
2:43:28
hatchery's Capital request and the third
2:43:32
was to emphasize the city's support for
2:43:34
increased share of marijuana Revenue
2:43:37
something similar to what we get for
2:43:39
liquor revenues and then at a subsequent
2:43:43
Council
2:43:44
leadership uh conversation it was also
2:43:46
recommended that we include a statement
2:43:48
about the need for the growth management
2:43:50
act to include Revenue means to address
2:43:52
Regional traffic impacts and so we have
2:43:56
added that
2:43:58
statement as well so we're all shaking
2:44:01
our heads because nobody can recall that
2:44:03
subsequent Council leadership
2:44:05
conversation maybe we're all just get
2:44:08
full but it this recommendation or the
2:44:12
suggestion sounded familiar but it
2:44:14
almost sounded like maybe it came at the
2:44:15
work session or I don't remember but it
2:44:19
wasn't at Council leadership I
2:44:22
recall I thought it was leadership was
2:44:25
it I have a very very between the work
2:44:27
session and Leadership
2:44:29
Rec sure so that would mean it wasn't
2:44:32
discussed by the full Council
2:44:35
right and that's why we wanted to
2:44:37
highlight it just because it wasn't
2:44:39
discussed before the full
2:44:42
body are there
2:44:45
questions it's like Paul has one well
2:44:48
procedurally what you want to make a
2:44:49
let's I'll make a motion and then we can
2:44:51
discuss the content I'd like to move to
2:44:53
approve the city's final 2017
2:44:55
legislative
2:44:56
agenda second moved and seconded uh
2:45:00
questions or
2:45:02
discussion all so I I do remember uh
2:45:06
during the work session some kind of
2:45:07
comment about growth management I don't
2:45:09
remember the details but I was kind of
2:45:11
surprised what showed up here because it
2:45:12
gets a very specific ask about would
2:45:14
suggest expanded use of impact and mitig
2:45:18
mitigation fees or other Revenue sources
2:45:20
to address Regional traffic
2:45:22
impacts um that's that's a specific and
2:45:26
if anybody can help me remember having
2:45:30
discussed that um I'm a
2:45:34
little I'm a little bit concerned about
2:45:36
that because
2:45:38
um it
2:45:41
presumes it does say as the legislature
2:45:44
contemplates the
2:45:46
idea contemplates the idea a of a
2:45:49
commission to do a comprehensive review
2:45:51
of the GMA and make
2:45:54
recommendations so it kind of okay if
2:45:56
you're going to go in there and make a
2:45:57
tweak what we want to do is support um
2:46:01
these changes for expanded use of impact
2:46:04
and mitigation fees or other Revenue
2:46:06
sources to address Regional traffic
2:46:10
impacts so I I I'm not an ex after
2:46:15
tonight's presentation I'm not quite at
2:46:17
the Freshman level yeah of
2:46:19
GMA U but the um and I re and but the
2:46:26
um this
2:46:28
idea that
2:46:33
um yeah I guess I'm not familiar enough
2:46:35
with this topic it suggests that there's
2:46:37
this GMA includes the impact fee and
2:46:39
mitigation
2:46:41
fees uh and other Revenue sources so it
2:46:44
just seems like it's a big ask and I
2:46:46
don't know could you just break it down
2:46:48
a little bit for me what am I missing
2:46:49
what do I not know about GMA that I
2:46:51
should know to understand that
2:46:54
request keep forgetting hit the button
2:46:56
tonight so it really comes back to the
2:46:58
whole conversation we had around
2:46:59
concurrency where essentially you can
2:47:01
charge for trips uh that either reside
2:47:04
to or um you know originate from or uh
2:47:09
in in your community yep the trip bank
2:47:11
so what you can't uh which you have to
2:47:14
account for but you can't get any
2:47:16
mitigation revenue for is um p through
2:47:19
traffic and so one of the conversation
2:47:21
points and we talked about it when uh
2:47:23
the mayor testified at Olympia is you
2:47:26
know if there was an opportunity to
2:47:28
somehow capture the impact of pass
2:47:30
through traffic and that gets done a lot
2:47:32
of in a lot of ways in um the traffic
2:47:36
mitigation analysis that development has
2:47:38
to put forward to the local community to
2:47:40
capture that you know some type of fee
2:47:43
Revenue that would go back to the
2:47:45
communities that are impacted by that
2:47:47
Regional traffic
2:47:49
um that uh Gma should you know have some
2:47:52
way to capture for that potential
2:47:53
Revenue because right now it's only
2:47:55
origination and destination
2:48:01
to I have a slightly different uh
2:48:04
recollection of it I do remember what
2:48:07
you're speaking about where the mayor's
2:48:08
testimony was but I'm not sure when we
2:48:11
were talking about it that my intent was
2:48:13
to collect impact fees from others to
2:48:17
construct roads in isqua to carry that
2:48:19
traffic it was more about how are we
2:48:22
going to connect the the cities how do
2:48:25
we pay for the roads that connect the
2:48:27
cities when the cities are managing
2:48:29
their growth but the roads in between
2:48:31
aren't getting built so it wasn't to get
2:48:33
money to make Newport Way five Lanes in
2:48:35
town or Sunset W five Lanes in town
2:48:39
so I'm I'm a little fuzzy on our
2:48:41
conversation too exactly what this
2:48:43
language should be or what this language
2:48:46
means thought
2:48:54
as I look at the language and I did
2:48:57
testify uh at the uh opening hearing of
2:49:01
the work uh of taking a look at the
2:49:06
growth management act message was very
2:49:09
very clear that infrastructure was not
2:49:11
keeping up with the growth uh occurring
2:49:16
in cities and much of that was Regional
2:49:19
tra pass through traffic as I read this
2:49:23
it says that uh uh as Washington State
2:49:29
Legislature contemplates any changes to
2:49:31
the growth management act uh isqua would
2:49:36
support recommendations that would
2:49:38
expand the use of impact or mitigation
2:49:41
fees or another Revenue source to
2:49:44
address Regional traffic impact
2:49:49
and that to
2:49:51
me uh could very easily be understood to
2:49:56
mean between isqua and Covington or the
2:50:01
isqua Hobart Road or some
2:50:06
other road that
2:50:09
connects jurisdictions that are growing
2:50:12
very very rapidly because no one is
2:50:14
taking into
2:50:16
consideration any change is for highways
2:50:19
of Statewide significance connecting
2:50:23
those growth
2:50:25
centers so thank you for that um here's
2:50:28
my here's my concern about this
2:50:31
is is we're saying we're for something
2:50:34
and I can just see you know there's I
2:50:36
believe there's a lot of people out
2:50:38
there that really want to just
2:50:39
completely disassemble GMA oh you want
2:50:41
some revenue on those rural roads that
2:50:43
are giving you pass through traffic I
2:50:45
tell you let's push the line out to the
2:50:47
crest of the Cascades mhm and you know
2:50:49
what we can get Revenue cuz we can
2:50:50
develop the Hobart Valley there we can
2:50:52
get you some mitigation fees passed
2:50:54
through I'm not sure I'd be willing to
2:50:56
make that trade-off now that's a
2:50:57
scenario I'm not saying I know is going
2:50:59
to happen but I can see us finding
2:51:01
ourselves kind of in that oh you want re
2:51:03
you want some additional Revenue well I
2:51:05
guess guess how we can generate that for
2:51:07
you support what we want to do is really
2:51:09
gut the GMA and that that's a that's
2:51:13
kind of a worst case scenario but this
2:51:15
stated this without any caveats you know
2:51:18
as you know it added in there something
2:51:20
like I like you know as long as we don't
2:51:22
you know move the line
2:51:24
or significantly reduce the impact of
2:51:27
GMA I I I um I don't know how you would
2:51:30
say that but this is this is this is an
2:51:33
ask which just begs for a counter offer
2:51:37
and and and I'm not so sure there's any
2:51:39
counter offers out there that we're
2:51:41
going to be interested
2:51:44
in is um does it alleviate concerns um
2:51:49
because I just kind of want to figure
2:51:51
out what your concern is um is the
2:51:53
concern that it says we would look to
2:51:54
support um and would would it be better
2:51:57
to replace that language with would
2:51:58
consider supporting
2:52:01
recommendations is that is the con is
2:52:03
the concern that
2:52:05
it's the effect of the yeah it's almost
2:52:08
like we're making our bed already wait
2:52:10
wait wait I don't want to see the whole
2:52:12
package so uh so is that the concern or
2:52:15
is it something more something
2:52:16
substantive in the language
2:52:24
because it does say that we would
2:52:27
support something when we don't know
2:52:28
what it is but if we say we consider
2:52:30
supporting something that we don't say
2:52:32
we're supporting it
2:52:33
yet yeah I don't know stac I guess the
2:52:36
the thing I'm still trying to figure out
2:52:37
in my head is at you know at what point
2:52:41
you know we know the legislature is
2:52:43
going to be really busy with McClary uh
2:52:45
but this is going to be item 1A
2:52:49
the GMA if mlar is one this is going to
2:52:52
be 1A and I think that there are some
2:52:54
real forces out there to dramatically
2:52:57
change which would dramatically change
2:53:00
our
2:53:01
region um and it's and we're basically
2:53:04
going in and saying well you know
2:53:06
there's something we need out of this
2:53:07
and I'm I
2:53:08
don't the point is well taken you know
2:53:11
we are severely impacted uh by uh trips
2:53:14
that don't originate or end in the city
2:53:16
of isqua and um with this language we're
2:53:20
basically signaling our willingness to
2:53:22
negotiate terms of the
2:53:24
GMA um and I'm I'm not comfortable
2:53:27
enough with with this link I'm not com I
2:53:29
don't know enough and I I fear um what
2:53:32
it could signal too
2:53:35
much so
2:53:38
um Mar l so I would suggest that if
2:53:42
there are aspects that are we are 100%
2:53:46
behind in the GMA such as believe beling
2:53:48
that the planned growth should occur on
2:53:50
the urban growth Urban side of the urban
2:53:53
growth line and that the urban growth
2:53:54
line is drawn in the right place then we
2:53:55
should just say that here's what we like
2:53:58
we based on the fact that uh these
2:54:01
planning policies make sense and are the
2:54:03
best use of land and the urban growth
2:54:05
boundaries is in the correct place to
2:54:08
support the future growth of the Area
2:54:10
Regional roads are not getting improved
2:54:12
and isqua would consider da da da da da
2:54:14
because to me there is an aspect right
2:54:16
now of growth management that is failing
2:54:19
because of the silo mentality of cities
2:54:22
just manage growth within their
2:54:23
boundaries nobody's in charge of what's
2:54:25
in between the cities and so I think we
2:54:28
just say what we believe what we're 100%
2:54:31
behind but we need this issue
2:54:34
resolved so if I may so um so I I don't
2:54:39
disagree with you I thought that was an
2:54:40
interesting comment from the gentleman
2:54:41
earlier this evening that basically said
2:54:43
oh you know what growth management
2:54:44
didn't contemplate that said which is
2:54:49
begs to be addressed so I think the
2:54:51
issue that you're raising and we've been
2:54:54
discussing in other circles as well it
2:54:55
came up at the growth management po uh
2:54:58
planning board as well absolutely um and
2:55:01
so maybe um so I mean that topic needs
2:55:05
to be
2:55:06
contemplated so so I'm not you know
2:55:08
we're we are um we're going to get like
2:55:11
our second lesson in growth Management
2:55:14
in a couple weeks and I'm just wondering
2:55:17
and and I'm not sure I mean you made a
2:55:18
really strong statement things that
2:55:19
we're 100% certain about and I
2:55:23
um uh I'm not I don't know what I'm 100%
2:55:26
it's just an area where there i' I'm
2:55:28
still have um low on the learning curve
2:55:31
um and so I'm just wondering if for our
2:55:34
legislative agenda purposes I know we'd
2:55:37
like to have kind of our message you
2:55:40
know uh grooved earlier the better but
2:55:43
you I'm wondering if um in this
2:55:45
particular area under further uh
2:55:48
consideration especially as we're you
2:55:50
know going to get some more information
2:55:52
um to follow on like the one we had this
2:55:55
evening that maybe we can come back and
2:55:56
address this part I don't know I I I
2:55:58
would kind of prefer at this point to to
2:56:00
not include that bullet that was added
2:56:04
uh and I would accept the rest of it but
2:56:06
then with the idea that if we wanted to
2:56:08
have smarter better
2:56:10
language um that we still work on
2:56:14
that very yeah and I guess I would
2:56:17
suggest I would accept it with the the
2:56:19
way it's written now because I think
2:56:21
like you said it's issue 1A I think it's
2:56:24
kind of it would be odd for us not to
2:56:27
have an opinion on it especially even if
2:56:29
it's not exactly the opinion we're going
2:56:31
to end up with but some language in here
2:56:33
that says we are severely impacted by
2:56:35
this they're talking about it this year
2:56:37
here's our starting position and I would
2:56:40
rather approve the um entire agenda with
2:56:43
that language and if we want to continue
2:56:45
to work on it at a work session or
2:56:47
something to fine tune that message fine
2:56:49
but I I don't want to pull it out
2:56:50
because it's almost like we're not
2:56:52
paying
2:56:53
attention
2:56:55
po so I funny I kind of read this I
2:56:59
think maybe a little bit differently
2:57:00
than than other people do um we don't
2:57:03
know what the conversation about the GMA
2:57:06
is is going to look like when when
2:57:08
Unleashed uh what political forces will
2:57:11
wind up being engaged in this
2:57:13
conversation and it's Titanic herculian
2:57:17
forces much larger than than our city
2:57:20
but I think as a statement of principle
2:57:22
I read this as a statement of principle
2:57:23
the idea that the general idea is that
2:57:27
we would suggest expanded use of impact
2:57:29
in mitigation fees or other Revenue
2:57:30
sources to address Regional traffic
2:57:32
impacts I want to address Regional
2:57:34
traffic impacts and I think money is the
2:57:37
way that you address Regional traffic
2:57:39
impacts and so regardless of where this
2:57:41
conversation goes regardless of where it
2:57:43
lands and I sure hope it's in the end
2:57:46
having strong growth man management
2:57:48
control um because I think Seattle has
2:57:50
benefited the the King County not even
2:57:53
King County pet sound has benefited
2:57:55
immensely from having um strong controls
2:57:57
on growth um but uh this to me is a is a
2:58:01
statement of principles that we can use
2:58:03
to craft uh our responses as this as
2:58:06
this moves along so I I would prefer to
2:58:09
leave it
2:58:10
in other questions or
2:58:15
discussion make sure everybody else who
2:58:17
wants to comment is our already had an
2:58:23
opportunity I guess I I would say um as
2:58:27
we're talking about the language um that
2:58:32
putting going back to that um is a qua
2:58:35
would
2:58:36
consider supporting recommendations um
2:58:39
would make me more comfortable if we're
2:58:42
going to go forward with the language um
2:58:45
I think it's important to to have in but
2:58:48
I'm still have some of the concerns that
2:58:51
uh council member winterstein is having
2:58:53
as well so um at least if we could put
2:58:57
in consider to support recommendations
2:58:59
that would make me feel
2:59:05
better so so I think one of the asks and
2:59:09
it's reflecting it really well um you
2:59:12
know good job with the narrative I was
2:59:14
the one who asked to add that narrative
2:59:16
around there and that's actually very
2:59:17
strong I don't think it really gets
2:59:19
deluded if we pause on that one bullet
2:59:21
point that narrative it wasn't there
2:59:23
before it used to read isqua will seek
2:59:26
to work with its State Legislative
2:59:28
delegation blah blah blah now it says
2:59:30
isqua is being confronted by significant
2:59:33
and mounting congestion much of it
2:59:35
coming from Regional pass pass through
2:59:37
traffic it really is very impactful uh
2:59:40
the way it's written right now and
2:59:41
that's kind of what I was looking for
2:59:43
that that narrative be very very strong
2:59:46
um and and so um
2:59:50
so I I don't I don't think we're we're
2:59:52
would be deluding that if we take that
2:59:54
point out because it's a specific
2:59:56
remedy uh and um I'm not I'm not I don't
3:00:02
think we're ready for
3:00:03
that so so
3:00:07
um so I just I'm going to handle it you
3:00:10
know procedurally if I may there's a
3:00:12
motion uh on the table uh additional
3:00:16
discussion or question
3:00:21
to propose amending the language does it
3:00:24
a well the motion is to approve the
3:00:25
city's final 2017 legislative agenda is
3:00:29
the motion right but to
3:00:32
propose amended language well if someone
3:00:35
would like to amend the motion I amend I
3:00:39
would like to amend the motion like to
3:00:41
amend the motion to change
3:00:44
um two things one is
3:00:48
is
3:00:50
um in the first line where it says do I
3:00:54
would strike do and put to
3:00:56
perform and in the second line I would
3:00:58
strike would look to
3:01:01
support I would change that consider
3:01:06
supporting
3:01:14
second so the discussion on the
3:01:17
amendment did you just read it through
3:01:20
yeah as the legislature contemplates the
3:01:22
idea of a commission to perform a
3:01:24
comprehensive review of the growth
3:01:26
management act and make recommendations
3:01:28
isqua would consider supporting
3:01:31
recommendations that would suggest
3:01:32
expanded use of impact and mitigation
3:01:35
fees or another Revenue source to
3:01:37
address Regional traffic
3:01:45
impacts discussion on the amendment
3:01:53
all those in favor of approving the
3:01:57
amendment as stated signify by saying I
3:02:00
I it was opposed that carries
3:02:04
unanimously
3:02:08
so approve the city's final 2017
3:02:11
legislative agenda as
3:02:13
amended is uh the motion that is before
3:02:17
you
3:02:19
discussion on uh a motion as amended
3:02:27
yes oh yeah so so uh the um we amended
3:02:32
the not the motion we amended the actual
3:02:35
um agenda itself um so I appreciate that
3:02:40
Stacy I mean it certainly it it it goes
3:02:44
up to I think it goes up to a line I I I
3:02:47
I
3:02:48
but um there's so much Unknown about all
3:02:51
of this and um it is definitely less of
3:02:56
a commitment you know with the with the
3:02:58
change language so so
3:03:03
um yeah so that's why I did support the
3:03:05
change language so I just wanted to say
3:03:08
that that I it's just an area I just as
3:03:11
we work with our lobbyist and their firm
3:03:13
um just want to make sure that uh um
3:03:17
they're very very clear that um there
3:03:21
are limits to modifications of the GMA
3:03:24
that I think we'd be interested in and
3:03:25
so this really just touches upon that
3:03:28
larger
3:03:29
topic uh and and maybe we need to
3:03:32
consider have dial continue to have
3:03:34
dialogue uh you know with our lobbyists
3:03:37
um and all of those who are forwarding
3:03:39
this agenda and and maybe we need to
3:03:41
continue the conversation ourselves uh
3:03:44
when it comes to GMA so that's just my
3:03:46
comments for the administration and
3:03:48
those of us that will be working this
3:03:50
topic going
3:03:51
forward St and as soon as the
3:03:53
legislature decides whether or not it's
3:03:55
going to establish a commission um and
3:03:58
once it if it does then we can
3:04:01
vigilantly follow
3:04:03
it we
3:04:06
will other questions or
3:04:09
discussion being none and all those of
3:04:12
uh in favor of approving the city's
3:04:15
final 2017 legislative agenda is amended
3:04:18
signify by saying I I was opposed that
3:04:22
carries unanimously moving now to agenda
3:04:27
Bill
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7286 amendments to
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IMC
3:04:32
[Music]
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2-04 or
3:04:38
2.4.3 Committee of the whole Council
3:04:41
meetings uh this is
3:04:52
in 2013 the council moved from monthly
3:04:55
Committee of the whole meetings to a
3:04:57
quarterly scheduled since then the
3:04:59
meetings have been held the fourth
3:05:01
Tuesday of March June September and
3:05:03
December as established in the isqua
3:05:07
municipal code however due to the
3:05:09
holiday schedule this routinely causes
3:05:12
the December meeting to be celled
3:05:14
cancelled proposed ordinance amends the
3:05:17
IMC to maintain the courtly format but
3:05:20
shift the meetings to the months of
3:05:23
January April July and
3:05:26
oober uh this
3:05:29
is coming back from the
3:05:33
administration uh Stacy I would move to
3:05:35
adopt ordinance
3:05:37
number 2788 amending section
3:05:42
2.4.0 of the isqua municipal code
3:05:44
relating to Committee of the whole
3:05:46
Council meetings second
3:05:48
discussion Ola um my question is did we
3:05:53
look at there's a third
3:05:55
option my concern is that um many years
3:05:59
we do not have the new Council
3:06:02
constituted in January it occurs late in
3:06:05
January
3:06:06
or uh sorry committee sorry let me back
3:06:09
up as committee yeah the council's known
3:06:12
of course because there's elections uh
3:06:14
but we don't have uh necessarily
3:06:18
trying to think leadership do we always
3:06:19
have leadership decided that quickly and
3:06:23
this just affects Committee of the whole
3:06:24
meetings I understand but I if we didn't
3:06:27
have I'm just trying to remember if we
3:06:29
always have leadership set up by the
3:06:32
fourth Tuesday of January because if we
3:06:34
didn't it wouldn't be clear who would be
3:06:36
running that meeting I believe the IMC
3:06:40
says that uh Council leadership will be
3:06:42
determined early uh at the first meeting
3:06:45
in January and and uh but it can can be
3:06:50
amended uh you can suspend the rules and
3:06:53
have leadership determin early as we are
3:06:57
doing this year this year right okay
3:07:00
well then that addresses my concern okay
3:07:03
and and certainly um it's pretty clear
3:07:06
that um this is the Least Complicated
3:07:08
thing on our agenda tonight and uh the
3:07:11
request was to um put this on the
3:07:13
regular agenda rather than consent just
3:07:18
so that it's visible just so that we all
3:07:20
know um and the public knows so it
3:07:23
doesn't get buried that the the
3:07:26
schedule's changing that that was it
3:07:28
very
3:07:30
simple any additional discussion or
3:07:32
questions seeing none then all those in
3:07:36
favor of adopting resolution number
3:07:39
2788 amending section
3:07:43
2.4.3 of the IMC relating to Committee
3:07:46
of the whole meeting ify by saying I I
3:07:49
those oppos that carries
3:07:51
unanimously moving now
3:07:54
to uh regular uh business item
3:07:59
9f uh agenda Bill 7219 Gilman Lofts
3:08:03
three Trails development
3:08:07
agreement keth is that you wake up you
3:08:12
know um
3:08:17
good evening Mr Bear City Council
3:08:20
um uh so part of um so the city received
3:08:26
a letter request uh from the property
3:08:30
owner who spoke earlier this evening um
3:08:34
and the request was to entertain a
3:08:37
development
3:08:39
agreement and that property um is
3:08:42
currently uh that project is currently
3:08:44
stopped by the moratorium and so they
3:08:47
are seeking a development agreement to
3:08:49
see if there's a pathway for them to
3:08:51
move forward so the moratorium um and
3:08:56
the things that are listed as um kind of
3:09:00
catch points um would not preclude the
3:09:04
council from entering into a new
3:09:05
development agreement um now whether or
3:09:08
not we could actually execute that
3:09:10
development agreement before potentially
3:09:12
the moratorium ends I mean that's a
3:09:13
whole other conversation but I think all
3:09:16
that's being asked for now is the letter
3:09:19
is asking for us to start um the
3:09:22
conversation between the city and the
3:09:24
applicant for a development agreement
3:09:27
for kind of the front of that property
3:09:30
that's next to paga and that includes
3:09:32
the potential for the traffic signal on
3:09:35
on Gilman at the three Trails
3:09:37
Crossing so that would if the council
3:09:40
wants to do that right now it's it's
3:09:43
being um the the motion would be to move
3:09:46
it to land and Shore for a conversation
3:09:49
at committee level um and then
3:09:51
ultimately would come back for the full
3:09:52
Council to decide whether or not um the
3:09:56
city wants to entertain at least a
3:09:59
conversation because that's a dedication
3:10:01
of Staff resources so typically the way
3:10:04
we've done this in the past has been
3:10:06
that the council actually
3:10:08
authorizes the commitment of the
3:10:10
administration to spend time working on
3:10:12
a development agreement because they
3:10:14
typically take a bit of time a bit of
3:10:16
Staff time to actually work through so
3:10:19
that's what this first step is is just
3:10:21
looking for whether or not the council
3:10:23
wants to direct the administration to
3:10:25
move forward working on uh a potential
3:10:28
development agreement with this
3:10:31
applicant excuse me Lou Keith maybe a
3:10:35
little more information around um
3:10:38
development agreements that we are
3:10:41
currently negotiating that are outside
3:10:44
of the centralis qu area and also um um
3:10:47
development agreements that are
3:10:49
expiring and how that all fits into the
3:10:52
work plan for next year and then where a
3:10:55
new development agreement would then be
3:10:57
prioritized
3:10:58
[Laughter]
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that um so uh so development agreements
3:11:05
that we're currently working on now um
3:11:09
include excuse me two clustered plats um
3:11:12
one for bergsman one for
3:11:14
Silverado excuse me
3:11:18
um the two development agreements that
3:11:21
are scheduled to end um next year are
3:11:25
isqua Highlands and Talis um so the
3:11:28
development agreements for the clustered
3:11:30
subdivisions um the the scope and scale
3:11:34
of those are fairly
3:11:36
straightforward um there's a number of
3:11:38
things we've already actually sent
3:11:40
Silverado through development commission
3:11:43
um it's been through land and Shore a
3:11:45
number of times I think we have one more
3:11:47
stop maybe um bergsma uh we've been to
3:11:50
land insure once it has not been to DC
3:11:53
yet um so it has kind of its pathway
3:11:56
ahead of it ending the development
3:11:58
Agreements are a bigger task for the
3:12:02
administration um you know we would see
3:12:06
definitely quite a bit of public
3:12:08
Outreach over the course of next year um
3:12:11
to make sure that the property owners
3:12:13
within those two development agreements
3:12:15
understand and that goes the way down to
3:12:17
the individual homeowner understands
3:12:20
what we're doing and what that means for
3:12:22
them as Property Owners within those
3:12:24
areas so there's a lot of Outreach I
3:12:26
don't think um the outcome will be very
3:12:29
controversial because I think what we've
3:12:32
at least talked about at a very high
3:12:34
level with the council has been
3:12:36
preserving what's there kind of in
3:12:38
perpetuity with this next step of zoning
3:12:41
action um but those things um kind of
3:12:46
those things are what they are this uh
3:12:50
again um we don't know what the scope of
3:12:53
this development agreement with um
3:12:55
Gilman lofs would be exactly I believe
3:12:58
it mostly centers around um kind of the
3:13:02
cost sharing
3:13:04
proposal uh for the traffic light uh
3:13:07
that the applicant is wanting the city
3:13:10
to participate in but it would also you
3:13:13
know be for them obviously to allow them
3:13:15
to move forward
3:13:17
um before the moratorium is lifted bless
3:13:21
you for the rest of the city so I don't
3:13:24
know what all else might be in that
3:13:25
development agreement so part of a
3:13:27
development agreement as you all know is
3:13:30
it's an opportunity for the property
3:13:32
owner in the city to kind of negotiate a
3:13:34
win-win outcome and so part of that
3:13:37
conversation and what the council might
3:13:39
actually perceive as being a win for the
3:13:41
city don't know yet because we haven't
3:13:43
done that so but I think you know
3:13:47
it would take three to six months maybe
3:13:51
to go through that process with Gilman
3:13:53
lofs um and I don't see you know most of
3:13:57
our development agreements tend to be in
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4 in thick three- ring
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binders this is probably closer to 20 to
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30 pages Max would be my
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guess so um the agenda Bell is a little
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bit confusing in terms of timing because
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it says um
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um one mention is
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commencing process would commence in
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January 2017 and be brought to the
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council by March
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17 and then the recommended motion is to
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refer it to the December 1st Landon
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shore on and January 5th and returning
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to full Council on January 17 so
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that's not four to six months so I'm
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just
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wondering which is it I mean what I I
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don't know yet um I mean it's going to
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depend on me the agenda bill but the
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agenda bill is inconsistent so I'm not
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sure so what the agenda bill is asking
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to do is to refer this to land and Shore
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for conversation and then back to the
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council for direction on whether or not
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to move forward with the development
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agreement so it either ends there or
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then we start a development agreement
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process which is what might take through
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3 to six months to work
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through but we would only do that if if
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you guys authorized us to do that which
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would be at the December 5th council
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meeting in or December whatever the next
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one is after that
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19th okay
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so is everybody clear okay no so I so it
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you're saying refer it to land and Shore
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for a few for a conversation and then
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what what kind of conversation so the so
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the conversation at land and Shore would
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be whether or not the committee would
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recommend the council move forward with
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a development agreement or not right I
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mean that's the decision that comes out
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of committee move forward or recommend
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to the to you to start working on it
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right not what we we've done before is
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it we've gone to so it comes here and
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then it gets referred for a discussion
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about whether to recommend expending
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resources and then it comes back to the
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full Council and then so I don't recall
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that that seems like an extra step but
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that's okay I mean I'm just making it
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clear there's some unique aspects
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because we're in the middle of a
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moratorium that would be in this
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development agreement that's not would
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be atypical and so I think what Keith is
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saying is he'd like the committee to
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have a conversation around what some of
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those things mean so what do you what
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standard do you vest to when you could
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actually be changing the standards in
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six months um or nine months or 12
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months depending upon what comes out of
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the moratorium work so I think there's a
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lot of issues that are affiliated with
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this da that make it a little unique um
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and I think the director is asking the
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committee to have a conversation around
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some of those issues before it comes
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back to council because it may come back
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and say this is you what we just can't
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come to a conclusion right now and we
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just need to not invest any more time in
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or maybe you know what we think we can
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maybe work through some of these
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standards
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um and depending on what you know how
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that agreement shapes out and they agree
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to Something
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in so I think that's kind of what you're
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saying that's why you're this is a kind
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of a unique step in the process right
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okay thank you for clarifying that that
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I wasn't crazy okay
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other questions or
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discussion so I'm not on Landing Shore
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but uh uh one of the things if if we
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move forward with this this evening is I
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would want Landon Shore to look closely
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at there's a lot on the docket for next
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year and a lot of it runs through Heath
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and I'm sure you're already thinking of
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this and I'm not telling you anything
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you haven't already thought of but um I
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would really I would request that Landon
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Shore take a close look in the context
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of all the other things that are going
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to that are going to happen going
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forward um uh whether we feel that
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there's just the time for this amongst
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the other other priorities that the that
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um the city uh will be moving forward
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within 2017
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thanks other questions or
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discussion make a motion very sty do you
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have a question no mo to refer AB 7219
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to the December 1st 2016 and January 5th
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2017 the council land andure committee
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meetings for review and recommendation
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returning to the full Council on January
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17th
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2017 second moved and seconded any
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additional
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discussion so
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um yeah we're we're we're we're gonna
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we're going to discuss whether not a
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couple things I mean so I can see a
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benefit of like you know what let's
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let's let's look at one of these early
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on in this moratorium and and have a
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council make a decision whether or not
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this you know a development agreement
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like this under these circumstances
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makes sense or not or think we can be
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successful I think that's an okay
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conversation then the but the other
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conversation is and this is what Stacy I
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think and TOA just said as well is
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like you know even if we think we can
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make it
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work um can we really we're really
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adding quite a burden to the work plan
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which I think is already significant
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already so
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um you know that that's what I have to
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decide my my vote tonight is going to
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reflect you know part of me just says
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listen what do we let's not add anything
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to the work plan we got a couple things
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we need to get them done we need to get
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them done good this may have some Merit
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I don't know we haven't looked at it but
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let's just park it and wait um and so
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you know we heard this evening we had
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from public comments um I think you said
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the owner I don't think it was the owner
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it was a representative of the owner um
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that it was a little there was a little
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bit of a okay you know this is
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everything you want but if you know if
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we don't get a DA then we're just going
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to do a super tire store I was like
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really um okay sounded like a little bit
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of a negotiating
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position um
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it be it be if if this goes forward to
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committee it'
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be we should explore that possibility
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what's the reality of it not turning out
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the way we would
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prefer additional
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discussion uh one of the things I heard
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is uh
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the um potential opportunity to share in
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the Improvement there at that
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intersection and so um the only reason
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that I would consider moving this
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forward is because of that potential
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opportunity otherwise um I wouldn't be
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um remotely interested at this point um
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so I uh would support this going to land
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and Shore to be looked at
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um you know just a little bit more depth
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um and boy there has to be something
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Fair very compelling there um in order
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for me to con to consider um whether we
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want to take this on but but to me that
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is a that is one reason uh we have um
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many many times over the past several
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months talked about transportation and
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traffic issues being number one and that
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we um meant what we said and said what
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we meant when we were going to start
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addressing it and so I would like to
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know more about what that proposal is
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and um or potential proposal
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proposal um but that would be the only
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reason I would be considering
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it and I think um eth what would be
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important for me in a first discussion
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at land and Shore would be that there
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was an approved proposal that meets the
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existing code for Central isqua a code
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that we're looking at revising this is a
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new proposal would be required to make
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some significant traffic improvements
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anyway because it's much denser use than
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the originally approved proposal and I'd
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kind of like to understand exactly under
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the current code that we have what would
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they have had to prod provide anyway in
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terms of Transportation improvements and
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then what is the difference um because
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this is a much denser Proposal with much
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higher uh impact to the intersection
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than what was previously approved that
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would be important for me to really
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understand that
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okay earlier this year here at a
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infrastructure meeting we I think we had
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a conversation about this and one of the
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things that stood out in my mind I think
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Stacy I remember you you calling this
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out which was very insightful in that
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there's um there's actually multiple
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issues with that three Trails Crossing
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and it's not just about where the
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walkway is now moving it in or and in
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the alignment of of the of the trail but
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it's it's the convergence of Dogwood and
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rineer which is just south of Gilman by
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you know 10t and if I remember in
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infrastructure we were told yeah but
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what we're talking about doesn't address
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that convergence of dogwood and rineer
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and I think the feeling was is like you
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know you're going to fix this
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intersection you're going to have to
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address that part of it and um my
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intuition tells me that that's correct
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uh and and so you know um if we go
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forward with this then I would hope that
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the entire scope of that area was
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considered as part of the Improvement
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and not just along Gilman and not
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address the convergence of dogwood and
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reineer mean Juniper do I yeah yeah I'm
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sorry you're right you I was just seeing
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if anybody was listening wow this much
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bigger project than I thought if it was
3:24:39
all the way dog yeah one of those cross
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streets that come across from
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Newport right the the northern one
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Juniper yeah you knew what I was talking
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about yeah where Washington Federal is
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exactly so the good news with the da is
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we have the ability to say what we want
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to have happen and I clearly heard it
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infrastructure that that South leg was
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important to the committee and so I
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think we'll start the conversations by
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talking about all four legs of that
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intersection and not just
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three all right thank
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you no discussion or questions seeing
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none and all those uh in favor of
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referring agenda Bill 7219 to the
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December 1st
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2016 and January 5th 2017 Council land
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and Shore committee meeting for review
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and recommendation returning to the full
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Council on January the 17th 2017 signify
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by saying I I I was opposed that carries
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unanimously uh that uh concludes I
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believe our last item under regular
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business as I announced in uh the
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mayor's report uh there will be we'll
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now move into executive session for the
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purpose of discussing property
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acquisition and pending potential
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litigation for RCW
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4230 one10 per1 p b and Pen one pen I
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action is uh anticipated to following on
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an open session the executive session is
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uh will take approximately 35 minutes
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and with that uh we are moving into
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please I'm looking right it's great that
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we had that m ation information you
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don't tell we have $14 million in the
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ending fund
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balance it right here
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milon we
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are back in regular
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session council president
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Goodman I move that we authorize the
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mayor to execute a purchase and sale
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agreement with Puget Sound Energy to
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purchase property and a temporary
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construction easement necessary for the
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Southeast 62nd Street project for
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$178,000 second moved and seconded any
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discussion all those in favor
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of authorizing the mayor to execute a p
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purchase and sale agreement with P sound
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energy to purchase property and a
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temporary constru construction easement
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necessary for the Southeast 62nd Street
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project for
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$178,000 signify by saying I I those
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opposed that carries
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unanimously Acy thank you I'd like to
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make a second motion I move to authorize
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the mayor to execute a purchase and sale
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agreement to buy land from the Trust for
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Public Lands as discussed in executive
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session for
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$500,000 second moved and seconded any
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discussion
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seeing none then all those in favor to
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authorize the mayor to execute a
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purchase and sale agreement to buy land
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from the Trust for Public Lands as
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discussed in executive session for
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$500,000 signify by saying I I those
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opposed that carries
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unanimously
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uh we will now move to good of the order
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seeing none that
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then we are adjourned at
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11:25 oh my
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goodness just me