City Council Mobility & Infrastructure Committee · Tuesday, December 12, 2023 · City Council Digest

3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of November 14, 2023

packet pp.5–6

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Staff report:

After the staff presentation the following people spoke at public comment. 1. Peggy Cannon – Expressed concerns about the Sycamore extension. 2. Sonny Wang – Expressed concerns about requiring businesses to install grease traps.

4. AGENDA ITEMS

Light Rail Plan and Visioning Public Participation Plan ID 1293

40 min · Thomas Valdriz, Senior Transportation Planner · packet pp.7–95

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Staff report:

Over the last 20 years, the City’s population has more than doubled, bringing about new transportation opportunities and challenges which require new strategies to meet the City’s goals. Considering this growth, the City is seeking to take a proactive, transit-supportive approach to ensure that anticipated future roadway improvements support the long-term transit network.

Comprehensive Plan Update - Transportation, Utilities, and Capital Facilities Elements

60 min · Thomas Valdriz, Senior Transportation Planner ID 1490 Comprehensive Plan Update - Transportation Element ID 1564 Comprehensive Plan Update - Utilities and Public Services Element ID 1565 Comprehensive Plan Update - Capital Facilities Element · packet pp.97–134

Topics: Land UseTransportation

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Staff report:

Transportation Element Draft Goals and Policies DECEMBER 12, 2023 | M&I COMMITTEE T H O M A S VA L D R I Z , S E N I O R T R A N S P O R TAT I O N P L A N N E R

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0:01 ↗ oh God it is isn't

0:06 ↗ it um good evening and welcome um I'm

0:09 ↗ Chris Ray and with me this evening are

0:12 ↗ Deputy council president Zach Hall and

0:15 ↗ council member Dar Barbara D Michelle

0:17 ↗ and I'm going to call to order

0:19 ↗ the December 12th 2023 city council

0:23 ↗ mobility and infrastructure committee

0:26 ↗ meeting um there will be multiple public

0:29 ↗ comment opport unities at tonight's

0:30 ↗ meeting there will be a general public

0:32 ↗ comment opportunity at the beginning of

0:34 ↗ the meeting or you can May comment after

0:37 ↗ the presentation in Council questions

0:39 ↗ and answer period on tonight's agenda

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1:14 ↗ right now I'm I'm going to wait to see

1:16 ↗ if anybody um who is joining virtually

1:19 ↗ has uh indicated a desire to

1:24 ↗ speak clerk anybody with us tonight

1:27 ↗ chair Ray we have no virtual attendees

1:29 ↗ at this time I'm going to um skip over

1:32 ↗ the guidelines if someone joins us later

1:35 ↗ and has wants to make comment we can do

1:37 ↗ that then and I can cover the guidelines

1:40 ↗ at that

1:41 ↗ time all right moving on we have a a

1:45 ↗ full agenda today we have

1:50 ↗ uh uh four things so we've got uh agenda

1:54 ↗ item id 1293 which is the light rail

1:57 ↗ plan and visioning public public plan

2:01 ↗ envisioning public participation

2:03 ↗ plan we also have three um items related

2:06 ↗ to the comprehensive plan and they are

2:09 ↗ um ID 1490 ID 1565 and

2:13 ↗ ID 1564 and ID

2:18 ↗ 1565 and we'll be doing all those

2:21 ↗ together so with that let's go to the

2:24 ↗ agenda and the first item on the agenda

2:27 ↗ is uh approval of the minutes

2:30 ↗ I understand maybe we've made some uh

2:32 ↗ modifications to the agenda or the

2:34 ↗ minutes yes yes chair some some AA were

2:37 ↗ corrected okay um given the corrected

2:40 ↗ minutes any objection to approving the

2:42 ↗ minutes right the minutes are

2:46 ↗ approved okay well we're going to get

2:48 ↗ into the agenda then and the first thing

2:51 ↗ on our list today

2:54 ↗ is uh ID 1293 the light rail plan

2:58 ↗ envisioning public par participation

3:00 ↗ plan and Thomas of Valdes

3:05 ↗ valre um is presenting senior

3:08 ↗ Transportation planner and Thomas I

3:09 ↗ guess we have you all night tonight

3:11 ↗ don't we you really do okay all right

3:14 ↗ well um uh take it

3:17 ↗ away great thanks uh thanks chair Ray um

3:20 ↗ I'm actually gonna have Lacy Bell who's

3:23 ↗ an associate sorry a principal at Nelson

3:26 ↗ nigar Associates um join me for this

3:28 ↗ first presentation

3:30 ↗ um but I will sort of lead off the

3:32 ↗ discussion

3:35 ↗ here one second

3:48 ↗ screen great uh so again uh my name is

3:50 ↗ Thomas fdes I'm the senior

3:52 ↗ Transportation planner at isqua and I'm

3:55 ↗ joined by Lacy Bell at Nelson niggard

3:58 ↗ Associates and the purpose of this

4:00 ↗ discussion is to get your feedback on

4:03 ↗ two documents uh the first document is

4:05 ↗ the draft Link light rail plan and the

4:08 ↗ second one is the public participation

4:10 ↗ strategy for light rail visioning

4:15 ↗ development We'll be asking for your

4:17 ↗ feedback towards the end of this

4:19 ↗ presentation but um feedback is twofold

4:22 ↗ so the first part We'll be asking for

4:24 ↗ feedback on the light rail plan um

4:27 ↗ questions we have for you are does plan

4:29 ↗ adequately provide the city with a

4:32 ↗ Playbook to guide planning efforts and

4:35 ↗ are there any additional topics that the

4:37 ↗ plan should

4:38 ↗ consider I will then dive into the

4:41 ↗ public participation plan where we're

4:42 ↗ going to ask you for two questions does

4:45 ↗ the proposed approach meet its public

4:47 ↗ participation goals and are there any

4:50 ↗ additional Community interests or

4:52 ↗ audiences that are missing from our

4:54 ↗ potential audiences and stakeholders

4:58 ↗ list um so just to provide a little bit

5:00 ↗ of feedback um we've been planning for

5:03 ↗ growth in the city for decades in 2012

5:06 ↗ the city had adopted the central isqua

5:09 ↗ plan and this is really uh to guide the

5:11 ↗ long-term vision of central isqua um

5:14 ↗ just to make sure that it's a more

5:16 ↗ livable sustainable and balanced uh

5:18 ↗ mixed use

5:20 ↗ area in 2015 the city and pound Regional

5:24 ↗ Council uh designated a portion of the

5:27 ↗ central isqua area um this is the uh

5:31 ↗ Urban core area shown here in green so

5:35 ↗ this was designated as a regional growth

5:38 ↗ Center uh whereby um 68% of the city's

5:41 ↗ household growth and 64% of employment

5:44 ↗ growth uh between now and 2050 is

5:47 ↗ expected to be um in this

5:52 ↗ area and just provide a little bit more

5:54 ↗ background in 2016 voters approved st3

5:57 ↗ so Sound Transit 3 this was a ballot

5:59 ↗ measure initiative aimed at funding and

6:02 ↗ developing the expansion of mass transit

6:04 ↗ in the region um this includes the South

6:07 ↗ Kirkland isqua or like to we call uh we

6:10 ↗ like to call it ski ski link uh so this

6:14 ↗ is the ski link extension project um

6:17 ↗ this project is currently being managed

6:18 ↗ to a 2041 completion year uh it also

6:22 ↗ includes one light rail station in

6:24 ↗ central

6:26 ↗ isqua uh so in short um Central squad's

6:30 ↗ plannned growth and focus on highdensity

6:32 ↗ mixed use and P pedestrian friendly

6:35 ↗ development uh is going to be uh

6:38 ↗ generating the transit potential uh the

6:41 ↗ transit Rider potential uh that will

6:43 ↗ warrant sound transits investment in

6:46 ↗ their Central esqua

6:49 ↗ Station so with that I'm going to kick

6:51 ↗ it over to Lacy from Nelson nard

6:52 ↗ Associates and she will walk you through

6:55 ↗ uh the plan that Nelson niggard has

6:58 ↗ developed

7:02 ↗ thanks Thomas so as Thomas mentioned I'm

7:04 ↗ Lacy Bell with Nelson nyard previously

7:06 ↗ prior to being a consultant I did work

7:09 ↗ at Transit agencies on capital projects

7:12 ↗ so have some experience with this

7:15 ↗ um uh I'm going to go back to the map

7:18 ↗ for just a second and one thing I want

7:19 ↗ to point out well a couple of things

7:22 ↗ first I want to commend issaqua for

7:24 ↗ thinking about this as early as you are

7:26 ↗ that's great that you're thinking about

7:28 ↗ this now and also you have the benefit

7:31 ↗ of learning from the rest of the region

7:35 ↗ and how they've worked with Sound

7:36 ↗ Transit so really great that you're able

7:38 ↗ to start early and take lessons learned

7:42 ↗ but one thing I do want to point out

7:44 ↗ right is the ski link

7:48 ↗ there's very wide station spacing and so

7:51 ↗ looking to understand how you can

7:53 ↗ generate as much ridership potential

7:55 ↗ from each of those stations is going to

7:58 ↗ be important and really thinking through

8:00 ↗ since there's just the one station

8:02 ↗ planned for Central

8:04 ↗ isqua visioning early what you want that

8:07 ↗ station to be to really generate the

8:10 ↗ ridership and so in the plan we outline

8:13 ↗ kind of station prerequisites for

8:16 ↗ success with that framework in mind that

8:18 ↗ this is the central this is the station

8:20 ↗ from isqua and you want to generate as

8:23 ↗ much ridership as you can from there so

8:25 ↗ thinking through how you're going to do

8:28 ↗ that with land use with connecting

8:30 ↗ Transit with bike ped connections right

8:33 ↗ and so those are some of the things that

8:35 ↗ we've outlined in the plan and then we

8:37 ↗ go into the more tangible like

8:41 ↗ developing a timeline for when you want

8:43 ↗ to do each of the items uh aligned with

8:47 ↗ strategic considerations conceptual

8:49 ↗ locations and thinking providing a

8:52 ↗ proactive plan for how you'll prepare

8:54 ↗ for working with Sound

8:57 ↗ Transit so again this just goes goes

8:59 ↗ back to where I started right that

9:01 ↗ really how can you get the most

9:04 ↗ ridership potential out of that one

9:07 ↗ station and we call these the 60s of

9:10 ↗ Transit supportive land uses uh in

9:13 ↗ planning sure some of you have heard of

9:15 ↗ the 60s before but really thinking

9:18 ↗ through first they're kind of an order

9:21 ↗ of most permanent to least permanent and

9:23 ↗ the most important is really what

9:25 ↗ destinations are you serving so thinking

9:28 ↗ about what the destinations are where do

9:30 ↗ you have large employment where do you

9:31 ↗ have large population centers in Central

9:34 ↗ isqua and starting there are there other

9:36 ↗ destinations you want to serve with

9:38 ↗ Transit we included in the plan that

9:41 ↗ isqua is known as somewhere to come and

9:43 ↗ do outdoor recreation and do you want to

9:45 ↗ tie to those outdoor it doesn't always

9:49 ↗ generate a ton of ridership right more

9:52 ↗ like employment and housing our bigger

9:54 ↗ generators but thinking through what

9:56 ↗ destinations you're trying to serve

9:58 ↗ Within a walking distance of the station

10:01 ↗ developing the public infrastructure at

10:04 ↗ a human scale so people can feel like

10:06 ↗ they can access the Station by walking

10:09 ↗ or rolling and then making sure that you

10:12 ↗ have enough mix of land uses so people

10:15 ↗ it's thought of as a destination in and

10:17 ↗ of itself people ideally aren't just

10:19 ↗ coming to that Central issaqua Station

10:21 ↗ to go to Belleview or onto Seattle but

10:24 ↗ really thinking of how can you create

10:26 ↗ that really a dense Hub where people

10:28 ↗ want to come in then connect to the

10:31 ↗ region and so a big question related to

10:35 ↗ that right is how much do you focus on

10:37 ↗ serving isqua versus the region and so

10:40 ↗ those are some of the considerations

10:43 ↗ that we've outlined in the plan that

10:45 ↗ you'll get to work through and that's

10:47 ↗ one of the earliest action items and so

10:49 ↗ this timeline really is breaking things

10:51 ↗ out by The Sound Transit project process

10:55 ↗ and we've tried to outline what the most

10:57 ↗ important priorities are for isquad

11:00 ↗ during each of these time frames and

11:03 ↗ so there's the potential that this

11:05 ↗ timeline could shift right so it's

11:07 ↗ saying that sound transit's now focused

11:11 ↗ on a 2041 opening some conversations

11:14 ↗ they've had with their realignment if

11:16 ↗ that's achievable and so even if this

11:18 ↗ shifts we've tried to outline kind of

11:20 ↗ the key time frames as opposed to the

11:23 ↗ years we did put years to it because

11:25 ↗ that's kind of what they're tracking to

11:27 ↗ we did meet with Sound Transit staff and

11:29 ↗ these are the dates they provided so

11:32 ↗ some of the key action items and really

11:34 ↗ getting a vision for what the city wants

11:36 ↗ that station area to be is really the

11:38 ↗ most critical firstep in that 2040 2024

11:42 ↗ to 2026 time Horizon before Sound

11:46 ↗ Transit kicks off their official

11:48 ↗ planning process and then that early

11:51 ↗ planning stage is one of the most

11:54 ↗ important times for isqua staff to be

11:57 ↗ involved with the sound transit process

11:58 ↗ proc because that's when they set a lot

12:00 ↗ of the key decisions and then through

12:03 ↗ the environmental and preliminary design

12:05 ↗ process it's still important to be

12:07 ↗ engaged but really if you're just making

12:11 ↗ decisions about what you want the

12:12 ↗ station area to look like at that point

12:14 ↗ or where you want the station cited it's

12:16 ↗ a little bit too late because those

12:18 ↗ decisions are made in the earlier

12:20 ↗ planning process so that's a key key

12:22 ↗ piece and then always the um isqua will

12:26 ↗ have a role in final design as a Rover

12:29 ↗ of the plans right so signing off going

12:31 ↗ through the official isqua development

12:34 ↗ process and making sure that you're

12:35 ↗ signing permits and giving uh helping

12:38 ↗ Sound Transit move through that process

12:40 ↗ but really thinking through the early

12:42 ↗ planning stuff is where the city's

12:44 ↗ Vision should be focused

12:48 ↗ on and during that early planning

12:51 ↗ process the key considerations we've

12:53 ↗ outlined are again thinking through what

12:57 ↗ what is the character that you want for

12:58 ↗ that Central isqua Station given that it

13:00 ↗ is planned to be the end of the line it

13:03 ↗ could be a great location for people

13:06 ↗ from further east to come and get on the

13:09 ↗ system and connect or it could be

13:12 ↗ somewhere where you know that may happen

13:14 ↗ but you could focus more on serving

13:17 ↗ locals right at the station area um

13:20 ↗ there are a number of policy tools that

13:22 ↗ isqua can think through to support those

13:27 ↗ that Vision that you have and we did

13:30 ↗ some peer interviews talked to Federal

13:32 ↗ Way and Belleview to learn what they did

13:35 ↗ and they set some planning guidelines

13:39 ↗ about defining station areas that are

13:42 ↗ supported that support uh transit

13:45 ↗ station and so I think thinking through

13:48 ↗ if that's something the city wants to do

13:49 ↗ or not and then always thinking through

13:52 ↗ how you'll integrate with the Metro uh

13:55 ↗ Network including microtransit which I'm

13:57 ↗ sure will continue to

14:00 ↗ grow uh the first step is some hey Lacy

14:04 ↗ a quick

14:05 ↗ question yeah this was a question I was

14:07 ↗ thinking about asking later but maybe

14:08 ↗ it's more appropriate now so when we say

14:12 ↗ uh we're planning for end of the

14:14 ↗ line in

14:17 ↗ 2041 um should we as a city also be

14:21 ↗ thinking and i' say this a little tongue

14:23 ↗ and cheek but should we be thinking of

14:25 ↗ 2090 when maybe they're going to want to

14:29 ↗ extend it to North Bend or uh and should

14:32 ↗ that play any role in our consideration

14:34 ↗ and I'm thinking particularly that we

14:37 ↗ wouldn't want to place it in a place

14:40 ↗ that would make it really difficult to

14:43 ↗ extend it further out east whenever that

14:47 ↗ is uh happening but we know that growth

14:50 ↗ is going Eastward right so anyway a

14:53 ↗ little bit of a tongue-in-cheek question

14:55 ↗ but um is there any part of that really

14:59 ↗ really long range that we should be

15:00 ↗ taking into consideration when we're

15:02 ↗ doing our planning I think that's a

15:05 ↗ great question and one of the first

15:07 ↗ things we've outlined is actually some

15:10 ↗ well the first step is to Think Through

15:12 ↗ where those conceptual station locations

15:14 ↗ are right and I

15:17 ↗ think there are different locations that

15:19 ↗ you can think through and some maybe a

15:23 ↗ longer deviation from I90 that would

15:26 ↗ require additional track to get to and

15:29 ↗ be a little bit more complicated bit be

15:31 ↗ closer to more development but to your

15:34 ↗ point that could mean that it's more

15:36 ↗ difficult to extend to the F into the

15:38 ↗ future whether that's out to bend or

15:40 ↗ whether that is just an extension

15:43 ↗ potentially to the highlands in the

15:44 ↗ future right and so I think that is

15:47 ↗ definitely a consideration that you all

15:49 ↗ should think through when you present

15:51 ↗ these different conceptual locations to

15:53 ↗ the public as well and so some of the

15:56 ↗ station locations are of course the

15:59 ↗ representative station and that's where

16:01 ↗ Sound Transit will start their process

16:03 ↗ what was defined in that representative

16:05 ↗ project that was in the voter package

16:08 ↗ and that includes a station very very

16:10 ↗ close to

16:11 ↗ I90 or if the city wants to think about

16:15 ↗ other station locations within Central

16:18 ↗ isqua what do you do with that existing

16:20 ↗ isqua Transit Center where there's

16:22 ↗ already a parking structure the

16:25 ↗ representative project includes

16:27 ↗ additional parking how much parking does

16:29 ↗ the city think is important to serve

16:32 ↗ high-capacity Transit right those are

16:33 ↗ the conversations you can think through

16:35 ↗ while you evaluate these different

16:37 ↗ locations or are there high density

16:40 ↗ housing or employment locations that

16:42 ↗ would be a better location for the

16:46 ↗ station and so what the plan outlines is

16:50 ↗ different steps to think through looking

16:53 ↗ at station sighting and Alignment

16:55 ↗ planning end of line again whether it's

16:58 ↗ or if you want to think of it as a

17:00 ↗ interim end of line or end of line for a

17:04 ↗ certain period but you know that the

17:05 ↗ city would like to extend service in the

17:08 ↗ future really thinking through

17:10 ↗ Partnerships not just Partnerships with

17:13 ↗ down transit but also Partnerships with

17:16 ↗ developers and businesses and it's one

17:20 ↗ of the things that I always say in

17:23 ↗ this being on the agency side for a long

17:26 ↗ time is that the time Horizon for these

17:29 ↗ projects right the fact that we're

17:31 ↗ talking about this with a

17:32 ↗ 20401 delivery date is different than

17:36 ↗ the time Horizon that

17:38 ↗ developers use right and so trying

17:41 ↗ to get meaningful engagement from

17:44 ↗ developers can be a challenge but it can

17:46 ↗ be very valuable as you're thinking

17:48 ↗ about what the future potential is and

17:51 ↗ then the other piece that a lot of

17:53 ↗ municipalities think through with a

17:56 ↗ investment coming from a Regional entity

17:59 ↗ is are there other local projects that

18:01 ↗ could benefit by being done at the same

18:04 ↗ time sometimes town transit will refer

18:06 ↗ to those as betterments but

18:08 ↗ opportunities to leverage and I know

18:10 ↗ that you all are talking about the I90

18:13 ↗ Crossing and how that would be future

18:16 ↗ compatible for a future station or are

18:19 ↗ there elements of that project that

18:21 ↗ could be combined with the bigger

18:23 ↗ Capital project and then again I said

18:26 ↗ like I've mentioned an important

18:27 ↗ consider a is really those bus service

18:30 ↗ connections to the station and is it

18:33 ↗ continuing to be some of these Regional

18:35 ↗ buses or is it more local service is it

18:38 ↗ a shift to microtransit and just I know

18:40 ↗ Thomas and his team will continue to

18:42 ↗ engage with Metro and see how uh isqua

18:46 ↗ how it continues to be served during

18:48 ↗ that time but things like electric bus

18:51 ↗ charging are those things that will need

18:53 ↗ to be incorporated into the station and

18:55 ↗ then again really important thinking

18:57 ↗ through land land use and policies that

19:00 ↗ isqua can set to encourage the type of

19:02 ↗ land use and development that you'd like

19:04 ↗ around the

19:06 ↗ station very high level overview and

19:09 ↗ again what the plan tries to outline is

19:13 ↗ what are key Milestones during each of

19:15 ↗ each of those sound transit planning

19:17 ↗ phases and you've got some work to do to

19:20 ↗ come up with a vision and you've got

19:22 ↗ time before Sound Transit starts the

19:24 ↗ process is kind of the high level where

19:26 ↗ I'd leave it and Thomas is going to talk

19:28 ↗ about the public process you want to do

19:31 ↗ uh questions kind of at this section you

19:34 ↗ wait till the end of the whole thing

19:35 ↗ because we're kind of changing gears

19:36 ↗ here it feels

19:41 ↗ like okay so

19:45 ↗ um I know we're going to comment later

19:47 ↗ this is you did a fantastic job on this

19:50 ↗ plan um but I do have a question uh are

19:53 ↗ there political strategies that we

19:55 ↗ should be considering as well and I'm

19:57 ↗ thinking about the fact that we had a

19:59 ↗ mayor who sat on Sound Transit board for

20:03 ↗ many

20:04 ↗ years but also um uh bringing our state

20:09 ↗ legislators on board and you know all of

20:12 ↗ those uh uh just placing our people in

20:15 ↗ the right places uh and also having the

20:18 ↗ right people supporting and uh

20:20 ↗ particularly when it comes to the timing

20:22 ↗ because we don't want sound transit to

20:25 ↗ keep pushing us back and back and back

20:27 ↗ so I'm just wondering is uh should there

20:31 ↗ be a parallel plan going in terms of uh

20:35 ↗ what's the political strategy that we're

20:37 ↗ also going to pursue to make sure that

20:39 ↗ this stays on uh on the right timeline

20:42 ↗ and maybe that is a question for our

20:44 ↗ Deputy City administrator I was gonna

20:47 ↗ say that's an

20:49 ↗ question uh sure hi I'm Andrea Snider

20:52 ↗ Deputy City administrator and uh short

20:55 ↗ answer yes uh we are considering what is

20:58 ↗ the political strategy we want to pursue

21:00 ↗ and given the timeline that was just

21:03 ↗ presented what are those important um

21:05 ↗ points in time that we need to um um

21:11 ↗ bear influence on the process and so um

21:14 ↗ that is something that we are continuing

21:16 ↗ to discuss we do anticipate um pursuing

21:20 ↗ a number of strategies in the future and

21:22 ↗ we can talk about that at a at a

21:24 ↗ different meeting if you

21:26 ↗ like thank you that was and that was the

21:28 ↗ only question I

21:30 ↗ had May council president uh thank you

21:34 ↗ very much I got two um questions based

21:37 ↗ on your experience in terms of Lessons

21:39 ↗ Learned um elsewhere so earlier in the

21:42 ↗ presentation you talked kind of about

21:43 ↗ how there are two different approaches

21:46 ↗ for station sighting one serving more of

21:49 ↗ the regional Focus people who are going

21:50 ↗ to come in and use that to connect to um

21:53 ↗ wherever they're going and employment

21:54 ↗ hubs and then also serving the other

21:57 ↗ option being more of a focus on serving

21:59 ↗ your local community dense housing DSE

22:01 ↗ services that kind of stuff

22:04 ↗ um when localities have chose have

22:08 ↗ chosen to serve their local community

22:10 ↗ over those who were kind of coming in

22:12 ↗ are there any unintended consequences

22:14 ↗ that that that we should be mindful of

22:17 ↗ are there any Lessons Learned there for

22:19 ↗ example when you do that maybe you don't

22:22 ↗ um account for maybe what the

22:24 ↗ appropriate parking or whatever might be

22:26 ↗ or or can Ed bus service might be and so

22:30 ↗ then your system get overloaded any

22:33 ↗ comments you have on that would be great

22:35 ↗ yeah that's exactly right

22:36 ↗ and given isqua's location on the map I

22:41 ↗ think there's no way that your station

22:43 ↗ will not function with a combination of

22:46 ↗ both and so one of the right I

22:51 ↗ think thinking about the primary user in

22:54 ↗ the initial design right you could say

22:56 ↗ we want to make this super easy for

22:59 ↗ people coming from I90 that it's direct

23:02 ↗ into the parking garage ramp from I90

23:05 ↗ right I think the Lynwood Transit Center

23:09 ↗ had a ramp straight in and it's going

23:11 ↗ straight to the garage right or and then

23:14 ↗ on the other side of their station

23:15 ↗ they've got they've really focused on

23:18 ↗ development so I think the Lynnwood

23:20 ↗ Transit Center Redevelopment that's

23:22 ↗ coming with the new station there would

23:24 ↗ be a great place to look I think they've

23:26 ↗ done a good job balancing it and so I

23:29 ↗ think those are some of the things that

23:31 ↗ you'll need to think through but yeah if

23:33 ↗ you decide that you wanted the station

23:37 ↗ to be further away from I90 and so you

23:41 ↗ then how you would have strategies in

23:44 ↗ place so you don't still have a ton of

23:46 ↗ people driving from I90 and congesting

23:49 ↗ the local network uh so I think those

23:51 ↗ are things you can think through about

23:53 ↗ whether or not some of the stations down

23:55 ↗ the line would be a better place to

23:59 ↗ attract the Eastgate right if that would

24:03 ↗ be where you'd want people to drive to

24:05 ↗ and so you could have policies in place

24:07 ↗ that make it difficult to park at the

24:10 ↗ isqua center right and so just or

24:13 ↗ working to always advertise that that's

24:15 ↗ where you want to go if you're coming

24:17 ↗ from I90 because it's faster access even

24:19 ↗ though it's a little bit of a longer

24:20 ↗ drive but if i90s backed up people would

24:23 ↗ know they could come to isqua right so

24:25 ↗ don't want to go too far down the rabbit

24:27 ↗ hole but those are things to think about

24:29 ↗ but yeah I the lywood station is a great

24:31 ↗ example okay yeah thank you sounds like

24:34 ↗ maybe we need a council and staff field

24:36 ↗ trip The Lynwood Center just to take a

24:38 ↗ peek at it that sounds interesting my

24:40 ↗ second question um was just um I am I

24:44 ↗ really enjoyed the exploration of kind

24:45 ↗ of End of Line policy considerations in

24:48 ↗ the the plan uh is there anything else

24:52 ↗ in terms of issues for other end of Line

24:54 ↗ stations that we should be mindful of um

24:57 ↗ Public Safety Fair enforcement

25:00 ↗ coordination Human Services navigation

25:03 ↗ are there any other kinds of issues we

25:04 ↗ should be mindful of when we make this

25:06 ↗ decision or knowing that we're going to

25:08 ↗ be an End of Line temporary End of Line

25:10 ↗ um that we should start to think about

25:12 ↗ our long-term policies in these other

25:15 ↗ spaces to meet any emerging needs that

25:17 ↗ you've noticed at other end

25:20 ↗ line an operations background so I tend

25:23 ↗ to start with those issu um things that

25:27 ↗ have come up is capacity at the end of

25:30 ↗ the making sure if it's you've got

25:32 ↗ enough bus connection space so making

25:35 ↗ sure it's designed in a way that there

25:37 ↗ are because this is where buses will

25:39 ↗ want to come and connect to the Light

25:41 ↗ Rail and lay over and so sometimes that

25:42 ↗ footprint is bigger than you might think

25:45 ↗ um the other piece that is always

25:48 ↗ complicated but just the public realm

25:50 ↗ and thinking through public restrooms

25:52 ↗ and if this is the end of the line in a

25:54 ↗ big transfer station should there be a

25:57 ↗ restroom and that is always a

25:59 ↗ complicated issue because of the number

26:01 ↗ of safety concerns that come along with

26:03 ↗ that those are my two off the top of my

26:08 ↗ head um couple a couple of additional

26:11 ↗ things um I appreciate the description

26:14 ↗ of what Lynwood did I was going to

26:15 ↗ actually ask you kind of what other um

26:18 ↗ end of the liners have been doing um

26:22 ↗ just so we had some examples so are

26:23 ↗ there other ones or is is Lynwood

26:25 ↗ probably the most interesting one

26:27 ↗ they're interesting because they will

26:30 ↗ definitely be that interim right because

26:32 ↗ that's where the Linwood link extension

26:34 ↗ before Everett link extension so they

26:37 ↗ have thought through like how are they

26:38 ↗ going to shift when the extension

26:40 ↗ happens um Engle lake is a good just has

26:44 ↗ been serving as the end of the line for

26:46 ↗ a long time and there hasn't been a lot

26:48 ↗ of development beyond the parking

26:51 ↗ structure there but does serve as a hub

26:54 ↗ near the

26:56 ↗ airport

26:59 ↗ but Redmond is an interesting one on the

27:03 ↗ downtown Redmond extension they have

27:07 ↗ they had the luxury of two stations

27:10 ↗ being part of their plan and so one of

27:13 ↗ their stations is not the end their end

27:17 ↗ of the line is their downtown station

27:19 ↗ without parking and so they facilitated

27:22 ↗ the parking function at a different

27:24 ↗ station

27:26 ↗ forther

27:28 ↗ and then what about Economic Development

27:29 ↗ I think that um if you draw any large

27:33 ↗ group of people to any single spot

27:34 ↗ There's an opportunity what have you

27:36 ↗ seen cities do not to um kind of

27:41 ↗ Drive additional economic activity

27:44 ↗ around the the

27:46 ↗ centers so that's again where I would to

27:49 ↗ the extent feasible engage with the

27:52 ↗ local development community and see what

27:54 ↗ they'd be interested in and then Sound

27:56 ↗ Transit does have a joint development

27:59 ↗ policy and they their Surplus policy

28:02 ↗ goes to Equitable to housing and so just

28:05 ↗ staying engaged in the regional

28:08 ↗ conversations about Tod Transit oriented

28:11 ↗ development and where the trends are

28:12 ↗ going but yeah looking for how you can

28:16 ↗ engage with the developers early is

28:18 ↗ important there anything you'd add I

28:20 ↗ think you may have just answered the

28:21 ↗ last question which is around um what

28:23 ↗ are the communities doing to afford um

28:26 ↗ to promote transitor ored development

28:28 ↗ for sure but also then affordable

28:30 ↗ Transit oriented development um because

28:34 ↗ I can see having rundles of Transit

28:37 ↗ oriented development that are all market

28:39 ↗ rate and kind of exacerbate our current

28:44 ↗ problem any any thoughts on that

28:46 ↗ one that is exactly why Sound Transit

28:49 ↗ developed their policy that they would

28:51 ↗ at least commit to doing affordable

28:55 ↗ housing on the properties that they own

28:58 ↗ so a lot of times what happens when they

29:00 ↗ build the these big projects is they

29:02 ↗ have to acquire more property than they

29:04 ↗ need for staging or whatnot and so they

29:06 ↗ do end up with property adjacent to the

29:09 ↗ Light Rail and so they've committed to

29:11 ↗ ensuring that any development that goes

29:13 ↗ there is Affordable and so just making

29:15 ↗ sure that again you've got policies in

29:18 ↗ place that require a certain

29:20 ↗ amount and and the last one I think this

29:22 ↗ is more of a sound transit question than

29:25 ↗ isqua question but once we know where

29:28 ↗ we're going to decide it I think that uh

29:29 ↗ land becomes clearly more valuable and

29:32 ↗ how do we deal with the uh anticipated

29:35 ↗ increase in property values associated

29:38 ↗ with bringing in transit like that and

29:41 ↗ Federal Way is a good jurisdiction to

29:44 ↗ talk to they acquired some property

29:46 ↗ early that then was city property

29:50 ↗ that interesting I I I think this is a

29:53 ↗ fascinating discussion and I think the

29:55 ↗ planning Horizon makes it even that much

29:57 ↗ more fascinating um and how how we try

30:01 ↗ to project what and this is probably

30:02 ↗ more comments than questions but I'm the

30:04 ↗ chair

30:06 ↗ so

30:07 ↗ um um but anyway I think it'll be really

30:09 ↗ interesting to see how that all FS out

30:11 ↗ so all right any other questions on on

30:13 ↗ this yeah Deputy council president can I

30:15 ↗ ask you a really dumb question just on

30:17 ↗ my part um where are Sound Transit where

30:22 ↗ are light rail cars stored or like

30:26 ↗ where's the maintenance of those do we

30:28 ↗ accept any responsibility for like

30:30 ↗ tracks for where they'll like sit when

30:31 ↗ they're not being used or anything they

30:33 ↗ might be thrilled if you proposed

30:35 ↗ something like that um so the ski link

30:38 ↗ will is planned to be serviced out of

30:42 ↗ the East operations and maintenance

30:44 ↗ facility that recently opened to serve

30:46 ↗ Eastlink so it is in bellw off right

30:51 ↗ just south of 520 over by the the new

30:55 ↗ development blanket on the

30:59 ↗ name okay but somewhere in that did you

31:02 ↗ have a comment Deputy St sure it's my

31:07 ↗ understanding that that was uh part of

31:09 ↗ the discussion when the s23 package was

31:12 ↗ put together is given that isqua is

31:15 ↗ going to be an endof the Line Station um

31:17 ↗ do we have space for a rail yard of

31:21 ↗ sorts to store some cars Etc um there is

31:26 ↗ another location that would be the main

31:28 ↗ um yard that would service um but I

31:31 ↗ think we as we get closer we'll have to

31:33 ↗ really understand what some of the

31:35 ↗ operational needs are from Sound Transit

31:38 ↗ for an End Of The Line

31:40 ↗ Station yeah and then making sure we

31:43 ↗ have that pro and con discussion there

31:46 ↗ and and if that's something isqua would

31:49 ↗ even consider entertaining

31:52 ↗ what get out terms of maybe we get

31:56 ↗ pushed up 20

31:58 ↗ all right thank you good

32:02 ↗ question I think anything else on this

32:04 ↗ segment or we should we move

32:06 ↗ on

32:11 ↗ Thomas Thanks so much Lacy I really

32:14 ↗ appreciate it um moving on to the light

32:17 ↗ rail visioning

32:19 ↗ exercise um so again as Lacy had

32:22 ↗ mentioned um one of the first things

32:26 ↗ that was identified through the light

32:28 ↗ rail plan is to is the need to

32:30 ↗ co-develop a

32:32 ↗ vision uh for the station area um and to

32:36 ↗ do that with the community to make sure

32:37 ↗ that we're uh proposing um an option

32:41 ↗ that is uh Community preferred that's

32:43 ↗ aligned with Community Values and so

32:46 ↗ sort of the the flowchart of what we're

32:48 ↗ proposing here is to co-create a vision

32:51 ↗ and guiding principles for the station

32:52 ↗ area uh this would then be fed into uh

32:56 ↗ the city

32:57 ↗ looking at a preferred station location

33:00 ↗ um aligning it with Community Values and

33:02 ↗ the vision that's been

33:04 ↗ established uh and then proposing that

33:07 ↗ to sound transit as part of their

33:08 ↗ planning phase um understanding that

33:10 ↗ it's a sound transit project but we can

33:12 ↗ do what we can to try to influence where

33:15 ↗ the uh one station will

33:17 ↗ go uh we can also use some land use

33:20 ↗ policies and make other um policy

33:24 ↗ changes to make it uh a more Transit

33:27 ↗ supportive um area so just doing what we

33:31 ↗ can to sort of influence uh where the

33:33 ↗ potential station could go and again

33:36 ↗ aligning it to how the community would

33:37 ↗ like to see

33:40 ↗ it so the goals of the public

33:42 ↗ participation plan are to engage diverse

33:45 ↗ voices provide accurate information to

33:47 ↗ the community and to provide a variety

33:50 ↗ of public participation

33:54 ↗ opportunities and so some of the

33:56 ↗ potential audiences and stakeholders

33:58 ↗ that we've identified through this

33:59 ↗ process include the business and

34:01 ↗ development communities uh the general

34:03 ↗ community at large Human Services

34:07 ↗ interests Mobility advocacy and current

34:10 ↗ Transit writers as well as seniors and

34:14 ↗ youth the proposed approach is really to

34:18 ↗ kind of mirror what we've done with the

34:20 ↗ transit study uh so using the transit

34:22 ↗ study website as a landing page for

34:24 ↗ information um

34:27 ↗ moving from there we're proposing

34:30 ↗ developing a multilingual Community

34:32 ↗ survey so just like the transit study um

34:35 ↗ developing this

34:36 ↗ survey uh in English Spanish and

34:40 ↗ Mandarin and then the questions would be

34:42 ↗ aimed at developing that vision and

34:45 ↗ guiding

34:46 ↗ principles uh we also acknowledge that

34:48 ↗ some folks uh don't uh have the

34:51 ↗ opportunity to attend meetings so we

34:53 ↗ would like to go to them uh doing some

34:55 ↗ popup events uh like we've done with the

34:57 ↗ transit study um one example is I

35:00 ↗ attended a Kanis meeting and got some

35:02 ↗ really good feedback um so I would like

35:05 ↗ to do that again um as part of this

35:10 ↗ process

35:12 ↗ great

35:14 ↗ okay um and then yeah just getting

35:16 ↗ informal feedback where people are

35:18 ↗ currently uh meeting so that it's

35:21 ↗ mutually beneficial um we would also

35:23 ↗ like to do uh and we're proposing to do

35:26 ↗ some Community focus groups um I'll talk

35:29 ↗ about that in a moment and then all of

35:31 ↗ this would be fed through City boards

35:33 ↗ and

35:35 ↗ commissions so just a little bit more

35:37 ↗ detail on the focus groups uh groups

35:40 ↗ would be about 8 to 10 members so that

35:42 ↗ it's a really intimate group um they

35:44 ↗ would be co- facilitated by City

35:47 ↗ staff um they would be comprised of

35:49 ↗ members with diverse perspectives and

35:53 ↗ guided through a discussion tailored to

35:55 ↗ each group and so the these groups

35:57 ↗ mirror the same as the

36:00 ↗ um potential audiences and stakeholders

36:03 ↗ groups we have the business Community as

36:05 ↗ one development community and large land

36:08 ↗ owners Human Services Mobility advocacy

36:12 ↗ and current Transit writers and seniors

36:14 ↗ and youth um so we acknowledge that uh

36:18 ↗ you know people are uh people represent

36:22 ↗ different groups um in each so a senior

36:25 ↗ could also be a cent Transit writer um

36:28 ↗ so we want to make sure that uh we're

36:30 ↗ not looking too narrowly at this but um

36:33 ↗ again just trying to get some diverse

36:34 ↗ Voices That Could represent these

36:37 ↗ highlevel um interests that would be

36:40 ↗ potentially

36:42 ↗ um the same or Divergent uh depending on

36:45 ↗ uh people's perspectives so trying to

36:48 ↗ get all the information out there all

36:49 ↗ the voices um so that we can then uh

36:53 ↗ create a draft version of a vision and

36:56 ↗ set of guiding principles that we would

36:59 ↗ take to uh Equity board the economic

37:04 ↗ Vitality commission and the Human

37:06 ↗ Services Commission uh fing that through

37:09 ↗ the tab and then finally through the

37:11 ↗ committee of the whole um so again

37:14 ↗ everything sort of snowballs into each

37:16 ↗ other so we're hoping to do a uh survey

37:19 ↗ and popup events this will then inform

37:21 ↗ the focus group discussions making sure

37:23 ↗ that those are pointed and focused on uh

37:27 ↗ the specific interests of that group and

37:30 ↗ then boards and commissions and then

37:31 ↗ Committee of the

37:34 ↗ whole and this is the proposed schedule

37:37 ↗ so we are now in Winter uh which is

37:39 ↗ amazing uh we will then have about a

37:43 ↗ year-long process um starting with

37:47 ↗ developing materials and then ending at

37:50 ↗ um the final summary uh engagement

37:53 ↗ report so we're hoping to just report

37:55 ↗ out on what we've done um and just

37:57 ↗ really show how it's uh reflective um

38:00 ↗ how the vision and guiding principles

38:01 ↗ have been reflective of everything that

38:03 ↗ we've heard uh

38:06 ↗ today um so we did take this to the tab

38:10 ↗ uh they provided some feedback we've

38:13 ↗ updated the participation plan

38:15 ↗ accordingly um there was one uh piece of

38:18 ↗ feedback that we uh the administration

38:20 ↗ uh did not uh choose to incorporate um

38:24 ↗ and that was the ab desired to hire

38:27 ↗ Consultants to facilitate the focus

38:29 ↗ groups um the Administration has uh

38:33 ↗ experience with focus groups and we

38:35 ↗ don't feel that hiring Consultants would

38:37 ↗ be necessary at this

38:41 ↗ time uh so again just wrapping up this

38:45 ↗ presentation um we have two different

38:48 ↗ plans that we've discussed and we're

38:49 ↗ hoping to get uh council's

38:52 ↗ feedback right any questions on the

38:55 ↗ light rail visioning public

38:57 ↗ participation plan Deputy council

38:59 ↗ president yeah I have a handful thank

39:01 ↗ you um although on the whole fantastic

39:04 ↗ job

39:06 ↗ um uh three questions on focus groups um

39:10 ↗ although maybe I'll

39:12 ↗ start is it possible to carve out maybe

39:17 ↗ it seems like this lines up the

39:19 ↗ multilingual survey might line up with

39:21 ↗ when we do our actual Community survey

39:25 ↗ um for the city although maybe we do

39:28 ↗ that the year after next year okay never

39:31 ↗ mind I was going to ask if maybe we

39:32 ↗ could tack on a few questions about this

39:34 ↗ so just forget that feedback um around

39:37 ↗ focus groups um first one is who would

39:40 ↗ assemble these focus groups is this a

39:41 ↗ mayor appointed thing or would we would

39:44 ↗ we have staff try to understand are they

39:47 ↗ applying are we reaching out to

39:49 ↗ communities you walk us through that

39:51 ↗ yeah sure thing um at this point we're

39:55 ↗ kind of interested in the Administration

39:57 ↗ um working uh like working with uh

40:01 ↗ longrange Transportation staff and like

40:03 ↗ the executive dep Department would sort

40:05 ↗ of help with that um we also acknowledge

40:07 ↗ that certain groups um we would probably

40:11 ↗ want to recruit from uh Outreach events

40:15 ↗ um so like for example if there's a

40:17 ↗ Human Services Group and there's a

40:19 ↗ couple um members that we've been

40:21 ↗ talking to uh like we have through the

40:23 ↗ transit study or you know just like

40:26 ↗ through this process if there's a couple

40:28 ↗ that are providing a lot of good

40:29 ↗ feedback and are really engaged um we

40:31 ↗ might want to pick them out um for the

40:33 ↗ focus group so I think it'll be sort of

40:36 ↗ a combination of ways um just

40:40 ↗ acknowledging that like people are

40:41 ↗ participating in various ways so um yeah

40:45 ↗ hopefully that sort of answers your

40:46 ↗ question no it does thank you so variety

40:48 ↗ of um also um when we actually sit down

40:52 ↗ with focus groups are we thinking you

40:53 ↗ have those different kind of actual

40:55 ↗ communities that were pulling from would

40:57 ↗ the groups be a mixture of these groups

41:00 ↗ or would the focus groups be kind of

41:02 ↗ distinct identities I see benefits to

41:06 ↗ both yeah for this for this plan uh they

41:09 ↗ would be distinctive identities so that

41:10 ↗ we could um focus

41:13 ↗ on uh you know I think the meetings are

41:16 ↗ planed to be like two hours long so

41:18 ↗ they'll be you know time to introduce

41:20 ↗ General topics that will be consistent

41:22 ↗ for all groups um but we do want to

41:24 ↗ focus on the specific topics that um say

41:28 ↗ a business owner would be interested in

41:30 ↗ and then really dig into that or like um

41:33 ↗ a current Transit writer we'd want to

41:35 ↗ dig into that a lot um and so using that

41:38 ↗ time and uh really just opening the

41:41 ↗ floor to like discussion so that

41:42 ↗ everybody can really talk it out um it

41:46 ↗ may be that there's no correct answer

41:48 ↗ but we just like we want to hear all

41:50 ↗ perspectives we want to record that and

41:52 ↗ then make sure that we're thinking about

41:53 ↗ that when we're deciding like what to do

41:56 ↗ next okay that's helpful so it's not a

41:59 ↗ standard list of questions that we're

42:01 ↗ asking all the groups they're targeted

42:03 ↗ very specifically for

42:05 ↗ that okay um you know why

42:10 ↗ um what was it the board was a

42:13 ↗ transportation Advisory Board wanted

42:15 ↗ consultants for uh the focus groups you

42:18 ↗ know why the

42:19 ↗ rale uh yeah um the rationale was uh

42:24 ↗ there was somebody on the board that

42:27 ↗ used to do focus groups uh so they were

42:29 ↗ a practitioner um and so I think I

42:34 ↗ acknowledge that uh as a practitioner

42:36 ↗ you're probably like you know that's

42:37 ↗ what you're doing all the time I'm sure

42:40 ↗ you're better than I would be um or like

42:42 ↗ anybody else who doesn't do that all the

42:44 ↗ time uh but the administration does uh

42:47 ↗ have experience doing it and we feel

42:49 ↗ like we have it covered okay thank you

42:55 ↗ um

42:56 ↗ can we um can you talk to me a little

42:58 ↗ bit about what how we're thinking about

43:01 ↗ and defining internally co-creation

43:03 ↗ because it's definitely a buzzword and

43:06 ↗ um very big right now in the public

43:08 ↗ administration local government space um

43:13 ↗ and it's great but it can sometimes be

43:16 ↗ kind of performative and a lot of times

43:17 ↗ when we talk about co-creation it

43:20 ↗ doesn't mean our traditional collect

43:22 ↗ input from the community these ones we

43:25 ↗ we agree with these ones we have

43:26 ↗ justifications for why we don't agree

43:28 ↗ with and we move forward co-creation is

43:30 ↗ very specifically a we come to agreement

43:33 ↗ together and we do this physically

43:34 ↗ together sometimes in most time in the

43:36 ↗ same room and stuff like that so how are

43:38 ↗ we thinking about kind of co-creating a

43:40 ↗ vision at the

43:41 ↗ moment yeah the co-creation process

43:44 ↗ we're really hoping to start um at the

43:46 ↗ focus group level um so hoping to build

43:49 ↗ in some time to really focus on towards

43:53 ↗ the end of the meeting like summarizing

43:55 ↗ what we've all saids and agreeing on

43:57 ↗ that um there will be often times where

44:00 ↗ discussions are had but maybe we towards

44:03 ↗ the end of the meeting we decide as a

44:04 ↗ group maybe that's not the best approach

44:07 ↗ for this uh particular topic um so I

44:10 ↗ guess starting at the focus group level

44:13 ↗ um summarizing as a group and then

44:15 ↗ making sure that we're crystal clear on

44:17 ↗ what we've discussed that day um and

44:20 ↗ then again snowballing that to the uh

44:23 ↗ boards and commissions um boards and

44:25 ↗ commissions are often uh come into

44:27 ↗ alignment on certain topics sometimes

44:29 ↗ they don't um but at least we're being

44:31 ↗ transparent about um what's been said so

44:35 ↗ um I think that sort of gets at what

44:37 ↗ you're what you're asking um ultimately

44:40 ↗ in the process uh things will be fed

44:42 ↗ through the tab um and we're hoping to

44:46 ↗ really cross-pollinate ideas um

44:48 ↗ everything that's been shared um both

44:52 ↗ forward and backward so the tab is

44:54 ↗ interested in also communicating with

44:56 ↗ the um environmental board the EVC and

45:00 ↗ the Human Services committee so um

45:02 ↗ hoping to exchange ideas there and like

45:04 ↗ potentially do um like shared meetings

45:08 ↗ with with boards and

45:13 ↗ commissions member D Michelle

45:17 ↗ questions okay I I well then wait your

45:21 ↗ turn um just quickly on the comments or

45:26 ↗ question I we I like the Affinity groups

45:29 ↗ by and large but there are three of them

45:30 ↗ that I I I went to that you don't have

45:33 ↗ one is a neighborhood Focus U one is a

45:37 ↗ people who work here but don't live here

45:38 ↗ focus and one is the surrounding

45:40 ↗ communities focus and wondering why if

45:43 ↗ there was a reason you had excluded

45:45 ↗ those from um kind of inclusion in the

45:53 ↗ procreation I mean great point I

45:55 ↗ wouldn't say that I excluded them um but

45:57 ↗ I I do I do appreciate that and we can

45:59 ↗ certainly incorporate that that made my

46:02 ↗ question sound a lot more like a comment

46:03 ↗ didn't

46:05 ↗ it all right then we're going to move on

46:07 ↗ from questions and into comments um I

46:10 ↗ don't want to be too far out of order um

46:13 ↗ bar you want to go first do we do we

46:16 ↗ have anybody online for public comment

46:18 ↗ or thanks for

46:21 ↗ asking we do not have any virtual

46:23 ↗ attendees oh good then I can go ahead

46:25 ↗ right

46:28 ↗ so first of all and do and do both both

46:30 ↗ the both plans comment on both plans

46:34 ↗ comment on both the oh yes I will okay

46:37 ↗ yeah the first one is uh does the plan

46:40 ↗ adequately provide the city with a

46:42 ↗ Playbook to guide planning efforts

46:45 ↗ really effectively it was it was great

46:47 ↗ reading the plan and what I really liked

46:49 ↗ about it was uh the framing of all of

46:52 ↗ the Myriad policy and visioning decision

46:55 ↗ decisions we're going to have to make

46:57 ↗ over the next few years but I thought

46:59 ↗ those were laid out very very well and

47:02 ↗ uh really good examples of how other

47:05 ↗ communities have handled things and uh

47:08 ↗ why you're recommending it so I thought

47:10 ↗ the the plan itself is is really

47:13 ↗ wonderful so thank you for all the work

47:15 ↗ on that and I didn't see any additional

47:18 ↗ topics because if we do everything that

47:20 ↗ you've got in that plan we will have

47:22 ↗ we'll have done a lot of work so so I

47:24 ↗ didn't have any Sugg sus for additional

47:27 ↗ topics uh on the public participation

47:30 ↗ plan I did have uh you you said are

47:34 ↗ there any additional Community interests

47:36 ↗ or audience and like council member Ray

47:39 ↗ I have a a few uh you know I'm just

47:42 ↗ going to pitch and I know that we have a

47:45 ↗ Time limited and a staff limited we have

47:48 ↗ to make some decisions but uh when we're

47:51 ↗ reaching out to the business Community

47:53 ↗ uh I'd like to make sure that we we not

47:56 ↗ only talk to business owners but we talk

47:58 ↗ to workers and uh and how how you do

48:02 ↗ that I'm not exactly sure but uh whether

48:06 ↗ there are unions that you would want to

48:07 ↗ talk to that would be one approach uh or

48:11 ↗ if uh you find uh friendly employers who

48:14 ↗ are willing to nominate you know workers

48:17 ↗ in their companies but uh I think that

48:19 ↗ the owners have one perspective and I

48:21 ↗ think the um the workers have a very

48:25 ↗ different perspective and they are often

48:27 ↗ the people who most need the transit and

48:30 ↗ so I would just urge you to do that and

48:33 ↗ similarly with human services our Human

48:36 ↗ Services people are absolutely wonderful

48:38 ↗ they have great big picture uh and many

48:41 ↗ of them have themselves lived experience

48:44 ↗ but it would be really good if we could

48:46 ↗ figure out how to talk to people who are

48:49 ↗ currently needing Human Services or who

48:52 ↗ have the buzz word now is lived

48:54 ↗ experience um with uh Human Services uh

48:58 ↗ right directly right now so same thing

49:02 ↗ talk to the people who are in charge and

49:04 ↗ who have that big picture but let's also

49:06 ↗ get down to the people who who

49:08 ↗ potentially are the ones who really

49:10 ↗ really need the transit

49:12 ↗ services in terms of minority

49:15 ↗ populations and I ran through that whole

49:17 ↗ long list of

49:19 ↗ organizations wow um there is a new

49:22 ↗ group uh called the circle that's being

49:25 ↗ developed I believe even one of our uh

49:28 ↗ city employees is a consultant to that

49:30 ↗ uh it's serving mostly the Hispanic and

49:33 ↗ latinx uh population in isqua so I think

49:36 ↗ that would be a really good direct uh

49:39 ↗ access to that population and then let's

49:42 ↗ not forget our lgbtq population as a

49:45 ↗ minority group who often have concerns

49:47 ↗ about safety in public transit so uh

49:51 ↗ East Side pride and east of the or Pride

49:55 ↗ Pride East of the bridge is I think

49:58 ↗ those are very similar organizations and

50:00 ↗ then P flag of course would be another

50:02 ↗ source of access to that group and then

50:05 ↗ finally um let's make sure that there's

50:07 ↗ Geographic equity in the uh

50:11 ↗ representation so uh some of the

50:14 ↗ communities that are further away from

50:16 ↗ Central like the uh South Lake Union

50:19 ↗ population the Sycamore population some

50:22 ↗ of those neighborhoods that really

50:24 ↗ aren't on

50:26 ↗ the main thorough fars um be sure that

50:30 ↗ you know that somehow or another that

50:31 ↗ they get included and then um last

50:36 ↗ comment I really like the idea of

50:38 ↗ starting out with f focus groups and the

50:40 ↗ targeted questions but I would urge you

50:44 ↗ to at least consider when you get all

50:46 ↗ done with all those focus groups invite

50:48 ↗ the people that participated in the

50:50 ↗ focus groups to a community meeting and

50:53 ↗ make sure that they don't all sit

50:56 ↗ together but that they sit at tables

50:59 ↗ talking to other people with other

51:00 ↗ perspectives so that there could be this

51:03 ↗ interchange of perspectives uh I just

51:06 ↗ think that you can call it a culminating

51:09 ↗ event at the end of the focus group

51:11 ↗ process but just having the community

51:14 ↗ hear that there are all kinds of

51:16 ↗ different uh uses for Transit and all

51:19 ↗ kinds of different people that need that

51:21 ↗ would be I think an important and also

51:24 ↗ maybe come to a clearer consensus about

51:27 ↗ what the community wants after they've

51:29 ↗ been able to talk to each other so just

51:31 ↗ a suggestion that maybe that would be

51:34 ↗ something to add to the community

51:35 ↗ engagement so but I did appreciate the

51:38 ↗ long long long long long list of groups

51:42 ↗ that you're going to try and reach out

51:43 ↗ to so anyway excellent job A+ great

51:47 ↗ thank you that be council president Hall

51:50 ↗ comments uh sure thank you yeah I didn't

51:53 ↗ hear anything I disagree with plus one

51:55 ↗ all that um starting with the light rail

51:58 ↗ plan um looks excellent to me I'm um

52:03 ↗ very happy it's very proactive I

52:05 ↗ appreciate seeing also what Transit

52:09 ↗ supportive communities look like and

52:11 ↗ what they feel like I think that's a

52:12 ↗ really important thing to put up top um

52:15 ↗ also um the policy considerations for

52:18 ↗ the end ofine stationing um like we

52:20 ↗ talked about earlier there's still quite

52:21 ↗ a lot of discussion to happen there I

52:23 ↗ agree lots of work to go so hopefully we

52:26 ↗ can capture some of the um other themes

52:30 ↗ that emerged around that conversation

52:32 ↗ during questions to put in the minutes

52:34 ↗ um for the other council

52:36 ↗ members um definitely a comprehensive

52:39 ↗ view of kind of what the next steps are

52:40 ↗ what we what we should be doing when um

52:44 ↗ and what should we what should we be

52:46 ↗ focused on and when so I appreciate that

52:48 ↗ um knowing that Lynwood and and angle

52:51 ↗ link are good examples to look you is

52:53 ↗ great um I love what council member D

52:56 ↗ Michelle said earlier um in part of her

52:59 ↗ questions about how should we be

53:00 ↗ thinking about this

53:03 ↗ eventually not being an End of Line

53:07 ↗ Station to so I want to make sure that

53:08 ↗ we capture that feedback just for

53:09 ↗ Council also be mindful of um in the

53:12 ↗ minutes or or it just says this moves

53:15 ↗ along through different boards and

53:17 ↗ commissions and back to

53:18 ↗ council

53:20 ↗ um yeah again light R plan looks great

53:23 ↗ public participation plan I think pulls

53:24 ↗ a lot of that great information together

53:26 ↗ too um I think the goals meet my

53:29 ↗ expectation I love seeing the focus

53:31 ↗ group Focus there so I appreciate that

53:34 ↗ um again I I think co-creation is

53:36 ↗ wonderful I just think we need to be

53:38 ↗ specific about what we mean by that um

53:40 ↗ and whether that's actually in the plan

53:42 ↗ or more just something that we're

53:43 ↗ mindful of moving forward and knowing

53:45 ↗ that we might need to adapt um is fine

53:48 ↗ by me as long as we're intentional about

53:50 ↗ it that's a very can sometimes be a

53:52 ↗ loaded term so we just need to be very

53:54 ↗ intentional about that

53:57 ↗ um and other than that well done tons of

54:01 ↗ work has already got into this and we're

54:03 ↗ not even into

54:05 ↗ the the real meat of actually getting

54:08 ↗ the station in light rail so appreciate

54:10 ↗ all your

54:12 ↗ work did you uh do your comments on the

54:16 ↗ stakeholder plan too okay good um well

54:20 ↗ I'll uh I'll bring it home for you um I

54:22 ↗ have one only one kind of comment maybe

54:25 ↗ two on the um the plan itself the uh

54:29 ↗ kind of getting us prepared one is um

54:31 ↗ and probably the biggest one is um the

54:33 ↗ world changes a lot this is a dynamic

54:35 ↗ area and so we got to build in the plan

54:38 ↗ as a kind of a review probably on a

54:40 ↗ biannual basis to come back and say look

54:43 ↗ is this still holding true um and I have

54:45 ↗ every uh belief that sound transit will

54:47 ↗ be here in 2041 but in the event that

54:50 ↗ they don't we should be kind of um

54:53 ↗ proactively kind of adjusting to that

54:55 ↗ that and part of it is um spent some

54:58 ↗ time in our nation's capital and they

55:00 ↗ put in their Transit rail system in 1978

55:04 ↗ probably with our money though it was

55:05 ↗ Atlanta um and the plan was to extend

55:09 ↗ out to Dallas to the airport um after

55:12 ↗ they put in the initial one in 1978 that

55:14 ↗ was 45 years ago and it's still not

55:16 ↗ there so um it can happen and so I just

55:19 ↗ want us to be cautious and um you know

55:22 ↗ keep managing that expectation um as

55:25 ↗ much as I like to think we're not going

55:26 ↗ to be the end of the line I think we're

55:27 ↗ going to be the end of the line um so I

55:30 ↗ I don't share your optimism but that's

55:31 ↗ that's fine the second thing and I think

55:34 ↗ the more important thing deals really

55:35 ↗ with the Outreach plan and that is um

55:38 ↗ this is a big deal and this isn't uh a

55:41 ↗ big investment that we as a community

55:42 ↗ are going to make and I don't want to um

55:46 ↗ do the community engagement um anything

55:49 ↗ other than First Rate because we really

55:52 ↗ need to have good um good information to

55:56 ↗ make this big decision that we have to

55:57 ↗ make and I want to hear some new voices

56:00 ↗ because often when we do this we hear

56:03 ↗ the same people in the and love them to

56:05 ↗ death but in the Human Services

56:06 ↗ committee commission and the and the tab

56:09 ↗ and you know as we go down the list and

56:11 ↗ so um those are important voices but I

56:13 ↗ want to hear some new voices and so I

56:16 ↗ would suggest and you kind of tiptoed

56:18 ↗ through it which is including the survey

56:21 ↗ in the community survey I would really

56:23 ↗ like us to consider doing a um a

56:26 ↗ statistically valid survey and know it's

56:29 ↗ expensive um for this survey because um

56:33 ↗ I want to make sure that we really are

56:34 ↗ getting uh a true representation of what

56:37 ↗ people are thinking in the community not

56:40 ↗ um those those frequent voices that we

56:42 ↗ hear a lot because I don't know that

56:44 ↗ they're really truly representative so

56:47 ↗ um let's make sure that we um we don't

56:49 ↗ do this on the cheap um let's make sure

56:52 ↗ that we um listen to the people of isqua

56:54 ↗ first and foremost because they're ours

56:56 ↗ um I'd love to see a neighborhood Focus

56:58 ↗ I you know we we did that with the

57:00 ↗ council lisening sessions I thought it

57:01 ↗ was super important and you know I think

57:03 ↗ Barb you mentioned you know the S more

57:06 ↗ neighborhood that gets a little bit

57:07 ↗ overlooked or montros that gets always

57:09 ↗ overlooked um and we you know we need to

57:11 ↗ get their voices and then surrounding

57:13 ↗ Community certainly the easy3 are um

57:16 ↗ smish uh North Bend M me and then this

57:20 ↗ group of unincorporated King County that

57:23 ↗ you know have our our same name name

57:25 ↗ would also be really good and then I

57:27 ↗ don't know maybe renting Covington Maple

57:29 ↗ Valley also you know because there's

57:32 ↗ there's possibilities there um so that

57:36 ↗ that's my only thoughts on this and I

57:39 ↗ I'm not a professional facilitator but

57:41 ↗ I've worked with them and I I go back to

57:43 ↗ when we did the strategic planning and

57:45 ↗ we had I forgot the name of the firm now

57:47 ↗ did that and they facilitated a number

57:49 ↗ of sessions I thought it was really good

57:51 ↗ um to have someone outside it brings a a

57:53 ↗ a skill level and B a certain level of

57:56 ↗ Detachment which I think can be helpful

57:58 ↗ so um understand not wanting to do it

58:01 ↗ but give it another

58:02 ↗ one all I got you guys got anything

58:07 ↗ else yeah I had thought about the

58:10 ↗ population South of isqua we have a lot

58:13 ↗ of low-income people who live along the

58:15 ↗ isqua Hobart Road and uh are very much

58:18 ↗ in need of Transit and I think probably

58:21 ↗ come to the transit center and take the

58:24 ↗ bus from there

58:25 ↗ so uh if we could get their voices into

58:27 ↗ the mix I think that would be good the

58:29 ↗ circle might be a way uh to reach that

58:32 ↗ population and the other one would be

58:33 ↗ through the uh isqua food and clothing

58:36 ↗ bank uh they serve a lot of people from

58:38 ↗ south of isqua at the isqua food and

58:41 ↗ clothing bank uh they might be able to

58:43 ↗ arrange a focus group there I think they

58:45 ↗ could probably easily arrange a focus

58:47 ↗ group there so um and a lot of those uh

58:50 ↗ folks are also Spanish speaking um

58:53 ↗ English is not their first language and

58:56 ↗ so I think uh that would be an important

58:59 ↗ important group to include uh in the

59:01 ↗ focus groups that we're planning so I

59:04 ↗ agree with you Chris that that that is

59:06 ↗ an area that we serve they're not

59:08 ↗ exactly our our uh residents but we

59:11 ↗ serve

59:12 ↗ them yeah I think for us to be

59:15 ↗ successful that driving ridership is

59:16 ↗ going to be key and that that's what

59:18 ↗ what it kind of made me think of though

59:20 ↗ you know we have to look at the broader

59:22 ↗ spectrum and um I didn't mention um work

59:24 ↗ here but you did so we'll leave it at

59:26 ↗ that Thomas did you get what you needed

59:29 ↗ I did thanks very much yeah Lacy thanks

59:31 ↗ for joining us great presentation have a

59:33 ↗ great

59:34 ↗ evening um guys want to keep rolling you

59:37 ↗ want to take a minute or

59:39 ↗ two okay yeah we're we'll we'll just

59:41 ↗ take a give you a chance to catch your

59:43 ↗ breath we'll just take a f minute

59:53 ↗ recess

1:01:36 ↗ all right yep chance we're

1:01:43 ↗ ready great we are back from recess and

1:01:47 ↗ we have three agenda or three AG um

1:01:51 ↗ three items to complete all related to

1:01:53 ↗ the con comprehens Plan update um they

1:01:56 ↗ are

1:01:58 ↗ um ID 1490 which is the uh

1:02:01 ↗ Transportation element 1564 which is

1:02:05 ↗ service and utility service elements and

1:02:08 ↗ 1565 which is comprehensive plan related

1:02:12 ↗ to Capital facilities element and Thomas

1:02:14 ↗ you're you're with us for another

1:02:16 ↗ whatever

1:02:17 ↗ huh absolutely all right take it away

1:02:23 ↗ sir

1:02:31 ↗ and I think after this one if this would

1:02:32 ↗ work for you um let's plan to um take a

1:02:36 ↗ pause after each of the elements and do

1:02:38 ↗ questions and and

1:02:40 ↗ comments you're good with that all

1:02:45 ↗ right uh thank you again chair uh

1:02:49 ↗ Ray so tonight we'll be asking for

1:02:51 ↗ feedback on three comp plan elements

1:02:54 ↗ elements the first is the transportation

1:02:57 ↗ element followed by the utilities and

1:02:59 ↗ public services and then the third one

1:03:01 ↗ will be the capital facilities

1:03:05 ↗ element so the purpose of uh this first

1:03:08 ↗ element the transportation element uh

1:03:10 ↗ we're hoping to get your feedback um on

1:03:12 ↗ the first

1:03:14 ↗ draft and we'll be walking through each

1:03:16 ↗ of the elements to get your feedback um

1:03:18 ↗ and then we'll pause at the end of each

1:03:20 ↗ um but again we're not going to ask for

1:03:21 ↗ your feedback Until the End um of all

1:03:24 ↗ three

1:03:27 ↗ these questions are pretty similar um

1:03:31 ↗ for each element so this may look

1:03:34 ↗ redundant um first question is the same

1:03:36 ↗ for all three uh are there any

1:03:39 ↗ additional considerations that the uh

1:03:42 ↗ planning policy commission should study

1:03:44 ↗ prior to finalizing their

1:03:45 ↗ recommendations to city

1:03:47 ↗ council um are there proposed change

1:03:51 ↗ sorry do the proposed changes uh fully

1:03:53 ↗ meet the expectations of the

1:03:55 ↗ transportation element

1:03:57 ↗ update and are there any other topics

1:03:59 ↗ that the administration should consider

1:04:01 ↗ uh when making edits to the

1:04:08 ↗ draft so the mobility um which we also

1:04:11 ↗ call Transportation uh Capital

1:04:14 ↗ facilities and utilities elements are

1:04:17 ↗ all required uh for the

1:04:20 ↗ GMA um for this update there's a new

1:04:23 ↗ element

1:04:24 ↗ called the environment element and this

1:04:26 ↗ is receiving many of the greenhouse gas

1:04:29 ↗ emission reduction policies that were uh

1:04:31 ↗ currently in the transportation

1:04:35 ↗ element um the primary goal of the

1:04:38 ↗ transportation element update is to

1:04:40 ↗ attempt to better coordinate with

1:04:42 ↗ functional plans that we currently have

1:04:44 ↗ so we have the mobility master plan uh

1:04:46 ↗ which we will update as part of this

1:04:48 ↗ process in

1:04:50 ↗ 2024 uh but it was last updated in 2020

1:04:54 ↗ and um this currently administers the

1:04:57 ↗ transportation element we also have the

1:05:00 ↗ street standards update which we updated

1:05:03 ↗ last year uh this currently uh you know

1:05:06 ↗ guides how we build roads uh throughout

1:05:09 ↗ the

1:05:10 ↗ city both the Construction and design um

1:05:14 ↗ last year you'll remember we updated the

1:05:17 ↗ land use code um there was some

1:05:18 ↗ Transportation topics that we went into

1:05:22 ↗ much detail about so we're hoping to

1:05:24 ↗ reflect some of those conversations

1:05:26 ↗ through the comp

1:05:29 ↗ plan uh this year we also um worked on

1:05:34 ↗ the Ada transition plan so this is

1:05:37 ↗ improving uh accessibility for folks

1:05:40 ↗ with Mobility challenges and generally

1:05:42 ↗ reducing barriers to

1:05:44 ↗ Mobility uh also in development we have

1:05:47 ↗ the transit study uh many of those

1:05:50 ↗ discussions um that we had tonight um

1:05:53 ↗ and then

1:05:54 ↗ just general discussions on how to

1:05:56 ↗ improve uh Transit service throughout

1:05:58 ↗ the community um those are also

1:06:00 ↗ reflected in the transportation element

1:06:06 ↗ update this slide just really just shows

1:06:09 ↗ how the comp plan feeds into functional

1:06:11 ↗ plans um transportation element is an

1:06:15 ↗ example uh of a comp plan element and

1:06:17 ↗ then how it feeds into the functional

1:06:19 ↗ plans that uh really carry out uh the

1:06:23 ↗ vision goals and

1:06:24 ↗ policies uh that then leads to how we

1:06:27 ↗ pay for things uh so the financing and

1:06:30 ↗ implementation um and then finally we

1:06:33 ↗ Track Performance uh annually on how

1:06:36 ↗ we're

1:06:39 ↗ doing so going back to the

1:06:41 ↗ transportation element uh we currently

1:06:43 ↗ have it organized as such uh so we have

1:06:46 ↗ proactive

1:06:47 ↗ safety climate and quality of life

1:06:50 ↗ multimodal balance system we talk about

1:06:53 ↗ walking biking taking transit driving

1:06:57 ↗ and then also we have an implementation

1:07:02 ↗ section we took this document to the uh

1:07:05 ↗ Transportation Advisory Board and then

1:07:08 ↗ we took it to the planning policy

1:07:10 ↗ commission we got their feedback um that

1:07:12 ↗ feedback is reflected in the um staff

1:07:15 ↗ report as well as the

1:07:18 ↗ attachments and the administration is uh

1:07:22 ↗ proposing changes

1:07:24 ↗ uh to be better in compliance with HB

1:07:27 ↗ 11181 um which has updated how we uh

1:07:31 ↗ plan for climate

1:07:32 ↗ change uh we also want to reflect uh our

1:07:37 ↗ community's desire to be more climate

1:07:39 ↗ resilient and be able to um adapt to

1:07:42 ↗ natural

1:07:43 ↗ disasters um greenhouse gas emissions is

1:07:46 ↗ a big topic we're really interested in

1:07:49 ↗ reducing those so that's reflective uh

1:07:52 ↗ in this element

1:07:54 ↗ there's been discussions on how to

1:07:55 ↗ improve multimodal Transportation

1:07:57 ↗ options throughout the community so

1:07:58 ↗ we've tried to address that here as

1:08:01 ↗ well and again the the transit study has

1:08:04 ↗ really brought up a lot of uh ideas on

1:08:07 ↗ how to uh better support Transit through

1:08:10 ↗ policy so that's in here as well uh

1:08:12 ↗ through Title 18 um through the land use

1:08:15 ↗ code update uh we talked a lot about

1:08:17 ↗ right sizing parking and uh curb suits

1:08:20 ↗ management uh is another uh parking

1:08:22 ↗ related topic that will be very

1:08:24 ↗ important to discuss especially as we

1:08:26 ↗ consider um how Central isqua will

1:08:29 ↗ develop in the next 20 years and then

1:08:33 ↗ also we want to be just generally

1:08:34 ↗ consistent with the other elements so

1:08:35 ↗ we're hoping to make some changes in

1:08:37 ↗ that realm

1:08:39 ↗ too so just walking through the changes

1:08:42 ↗ here

1:08:43 ↗ um we made several minor updates uh we

1:08:47 ↗ also want to be

1:08:50 ↗ um aligned with State and County

1:08:53 ↗ requirements um So within the climate

1:08:55 ↗ and quality of life section that's what

1:08:57 ↗ we've done

1:08:58 ↗ here for multimodal balance system as

1:09:02 ↗ well as walking and biking uh we have

1:09:05 ↗ new changes to incorporate feedback that

1:09:07 ↗ we received uh so one of the things we

1:09:09 ↗ heard was the desire to pursue micr

1:09:12 ↗ Mobility options um so that that is

1:09:14 ↗ reflective as a policy

1:09:17 ↗ here we also have some minor updates to

1:09:20 ↗ existing policies as well as an update

1:09:22 ↗ uh that was a um recommendation from the

1:09:25 ↗ transit

1:09:29 ↗ study uh for the transit section we have

1:09:32 ↗ some uh minor changes um as well as some

1:09:39 ↗ uh some desires to be consistent with

1:09:41 ↗ state

1:09:44 ↗ requirements and then for auto travel

1:09:46 ↗ and

1:09:48 ↗ implementation again some some

1:09:51 ↗ adjustments to be alignment with Title

1:09:52 ↗ 18

1:09:54 ↗ uh a new policy related to curb Space

1:09:56 ↗ Management um which came about through

1:09:58 ↗ the T 18

1:10:00 ↗ process and um as was pointed out by the

1:10:03 ↗ planning policy commission we were

1:10:05 ↗ lacking an implementation uh goal um

1:10:08 ↗ which isn't to say that we don't uh

1:10:10 ↗ track how we're doing um but it just

1:10:12 ↗ wasn't reflected in this document so

1:10:14 ↗ hoping to add that to add

1:10:18 ↗ consistency I think I'll pause here and

1:10:21 ↗ answer any questions you might have

1:10:24 ↗ any any questions at this

1:10:30 ↗ point see um I sent uh Thomas a question

1:10:35 ↗ earlier today um just uh and there's

1:10:41 ↗ many responses to this so but I was

1:10:44 ↗ asking do we have a statement in the

1:10:46 ↗ comprehensive plan related to Transit

1:10:48 ↗ integration with affordable housing or

1:10:50 ↗ multif family housing development and I

1:10:53 ↗ sent you know I worded very

1:10:56 ↗ Loosely a way that maybe that could be

1:10:59 ↗ stated but um and uh I got a response

1:11:02 ↗ back that in the housing element we do

1:11:05 ↗ in fact have uh a statement that uh

1:11:09 ↗ affordable housing and multif family

1:11:11 ↗ housing should be located near Transit

1:11:14 ↗ I'm just wondering if in the

1:11:15 ↗ comprehensive plan we want to do a

1:11:17 ↗ companion statement to that emphasizing

1:11:20 ↗ the transportation part of it that um

1:11:23 ↗ and I became aware of this because um I

1:11:26 ↗ do represent the city at the East Side

1:11:28 ↗ Transportation partnership and this was

1:11:31 ↗ brought up as an issue uh with the

1:11:34 ↗ emphasis in Washington state now on

1:11:35 ↗ affordable housing and making sure that

1:11:38 ↗ we have the infrastructure to serve all

1:11:39 ↗ that affordable housing um council

1:11:42 ↗ member um how from samamish was making

1:11:46 ↗ the point and actually that was adopted

1:11:49 ↗ as part of the Eastside Transportation

1:11:50 ↗ partnership legislative priorities they

1:11:53 ↗ adopted a much stronger support for uh

1:11:57 ↗ the idea of integrating Transit into the

1:12:00 ↗ affordable housing uh element so anyway

1:12:03 ↗ I'm bringing it up as a possibility I

1:12:05 ↗ know this has already been through a

1:12:07 ↗ couple of boards and commissions and

1:12:10 ↗ that it's very hard to add something at

1:12:11 ↗ this late date but I just want to bring

1:12:13 ↗ it up for discussion purposes thank

1:12:17 ↗ you can I comment on on on your comment

1:12:20 ↗ it was a great question um so this but I

1:12:24 ↗ have kind of a following question and

1:12:25 ↗ this is more about the comprehensive

1:12:27 ↗ plan uh in total um um do we do we want

1:12:32 ↗ to have things appear in M similar

1:12:34 ↗ Concepts and play in more than one place

1:12:36 ↗ just because of maintaining

1:12:39 ↗ synchronous synchronizing those things

1:12:41 ↗ over time so that that's the only

1:12:43 ↗ thought I I had as you were talking

1:12:44 ↗ about that so I'll just let you think

1:12:46 ↗ about that um you know how do we how do

1:12:50 ↗ we capture what we want to accomplish

1:12:51 ↗ yes but where's the best place to

1:12:53 ↗ capture it yeah it's a really great

1:12:56 ↗ comment and something that's come up

1:12:57 ↗ through this process um I think it

1:13:00 ↗ really boils down and this was a really

1:13:02 ↗ uh great comment that was made at

1:13:04 ↗ planing policy commission um they talked

1:13:06 ↗ about a similar concept I think as it

1:13:08 ↗ relates to utilities um but I think it

1:13:11 ↗ really boils down to like maintaining it

1:13:14 ↗ um as long as we're aware of where it's

1:13:16 ↗ at um this document is really high level

1:13:19 ↗ it's used by staff primarily but also

1:13:22 ↗ other folks will look at it um just to

1:13:24 ↗ to verify like how policies came about

1:13:28 ↗ how regulations came about um so it's

1:13:32 ↗ really a judgment call staff feels

1:13:33 ↗ comfortable um incorporating it uh where

1:13:38 ↗ it makes sense uh we can also have it in

1:13:40 ↗ multiple places um we want to make sure

1:13:44 ↗ that we're not um having direct

1:13:46 ↗ references to like Standalone documents

1:13:49 ↗ that could expire at some point so we've

1:13:51 ↗ actually and I can touch on this later

1:13:53 ↗ but we've removed direct like links to

1:13:57 ↗ specific documents which will not last

1:13:59 ↗ 20 years obviously um yeah I mean we we

1:14:02 ↗ feel comfortable if something is a topic

1:14:05 ↗ like this which is very interdisiplinary

1:14:06 ↗ we can certainly add it in multiple

1:14:10 ↗ locations any

1:14:13 ↗ questions thank you uh just a couple

1:14:16 ↗ most of them our comments um goal

1:14:21 ↗ D1 um

1:14:24 ↗ is there was a change mated um added

1:14:28 ↗ sidewalks on both sides of the street

1:14:29 ↗ within a quarter mile of Transit stops

1:14:31 ↗ as part of tier two

1:14:33 ↗ um by the way if if we can't answer this

1:14:36 ↗ tonight that's fine we can look into it

1:14:38 ↗ um um outside of this meeting but I'm

1:14:40 ↗ curious what kind of impact that would

1:14:42 ↗ have on Newport Way Northwest I know our

1:14:44 ↗ design of that street has only one side

1:14:47 ↗ Sidewalk protect the hillside um so if

1:14:52 ↗ there's not a response about or if we're

1:14:55 ↗ not sure what kind of impact that would

1:14:56 ↗ have there maybe just something to look

1:14:58 ↗ into because I think that's um I think

1:15:02 ↗ that's a commitment we've already made

1:15:03 ↗ with that design um so just something

1:15:05 ↗ that popped a flag with me um an actual

1:15:08 ↗ question that I have is policy or in

1:15:11 ↗ goal

1:15:12 ↗ f um goal F4 was to partner with King

1:15:16 ↗ County Metro on Sound Transit to enhance

1:15:18 ↗ Transit service options they tab

1:15:21 ↗ supported it generally but

1:15:25 ↗ um said maybe changing it to Transit

1:15:28 ↗ service

1:15:29 ↗ providers case of name changes I I just

1:15:31 ↗ didn't see a response to that

1:15:34 ↗ comment yeah that's a good comment um so

1:15:38 ↗ this kind of goes back to uh what chair

1:15:41 ↗ Ray mentioned about um agencies

1:15:44 ↗ dissolving as a potential um

1:15:46 ↗ so from like a um legal perspective like

1:15:50 ↗ does calling out the specific Transit

1:15:52 ↗ Agency name

1:15:54 ↗ uh is that better practice than just

1:15:56 ↗ saying any Transit Agency that's serving

1:15:59 ↗ a squa so um we're going to run that by

1:16:01 ↗ legal to see like what uh what they have

1:16:04 ↗ to say about it um okay we currently

1:16:06 ↗ feel like it's comfortable like other

1:16:08 ↗ cities do it this way but like it's a

1:16:10 ↗ really great Point um the day you're

1:16:13 ↗ right this is a document that staff look

1:16:16 ↗ at to interpret other stuff it's not so

1:16:19 ↗ even if something changes staff wouldn't

1:16:20 ↗ be like oh no it only says Sound Transit

1:16:23 ↗ work with other ones so okay um those

1:16:26 ↗ are my only questions about the

1:16:29 ↗ transportation all right I think I'm

1:16:31 ↗ entitled to one really dumb question

1:16:33 ↗ each committee meeting um what is

1:16:37 ↗ micromobility love that you asked that

1:16:39 ↗ question um so

1:16:42 ↗ micromobility technically is just like a

1:16:44 ↗ very small vehicle um in practice it's

1:16:48 ↗ like scooters bikes um anything like

1:16:52 ↗ that

1:16:54 ↗ okay and then um my more substantive

1:16:57 ↗ question uh dealing with uh particularly

1:17:00 ↗ the the G um ones particularly G1 um

1:17:03 ↗ traffic operations and intersections um

1:17:06 ↗ what's the tie-in with concurrency

1:17:07 ↗ because I know that's on a Horizon

1:17:10 ↗ 2 yeah it's a really great question uh

1:17:13 ↗ we we are looking at updating our

1:17:15 ↗ concurrency model um we will be just

1:17:18 ↗ doing a minor update at first and then

1:17:20 ↗ we will look at uh if we want uh like

1:17:23 ↗ how multimodal uh level service could be

1:17:26 ↗ incorporated um so making sure that

1:17:28 ↗ we're thinking about not just cars but

1:17:30 ↗ also um the service needs of bikes

1:17:34 ↗ pedestrians Transit all that um so we're

1:17:37 ↗ looking into it we're we will be

1:17:39 ↗ updating uh our concurrency process um

1:17:43 ↗ this year okay cool um any other

1:17:47 ↗ questions sorry next year I apologize

1:17:49 ↗ about that any other questions anybody

1:17:52 ↗ online did anybody want to speak anyone

1:17:56 ↗ online Okay

1:17:58 ↗ um I was going to just ask Thomas you

1:18:00 ↗ want all the comments at the end or you

1:18:01 ↗ want them in

1:18:03 ↗ blocks I'll defer to you um I I was

1:18:06 ↗ planning on taking it all at once at the

1:18:08 ↗ end but if it makes we'll do questions

1:18:11 ↗ at the end of the blocks and we'll we'll

1:18:12 ↗ save comments at the end then okay all

1:18:14 ↗ right works good next

1:18:21 ↗ block

1:18:28 ↗ right so next we'll talk about utilities

1:18:30 ↗ and public

1:18:33 ↗ services so similar uh process we're

1:18:37 ↗ hoping to get your in uh your input on

1:18:40 ↗ the first draft of the

1:18:42 ↗ element and these are nearly identical

1:18:47 ↗ questions uh to what you've just seen

1:18:49 ↗ um are there any additional

1:18:51 ↗ considerations for the planning policy

1:18:53 ↗ commission to that they should study

1:18:56 ↗ prior to finalizing their

1:18:57 ↗ recommendations do the proposed changes

1:19:01 ↗ uh fully meet the expectations of the

1:19:03 ↗ utilities and public services element

1:19:05 ↗ update are there any other topics for

1:19:08 ↗ the administration to

1:19:09 ↗ consider when making final

1:19:14 ↗ edits um so for this utilities and

1:19:17 ↗ public services element again this is an

1:19:19 ↗ attempt to reduce

1:19:21 ↗ redundancies uh support the City's

1:19:23 ↗ commitments to to

1:19:25 ↗ sustainability then to better coordinate

1:19:27 ↗ with functional plans um so you may

1:19:29 ↗ notice that the document is completely

1:19:32 ↗ uh reorganized um and that was again to

1:19:35 ↗ reduce redundancies that were sprinkled

1:19:38 ↗ throughout the document so hoping to

1:19:40 ↗ just make it a little bit clearer um in

1:19:42 ↗ terms of coordination we are

1:19:44 ↗ coordinating uh with recent functional

1:19:47 ↗ plans um so several utilities plans have

1:19:49 ↗ been updated uh we also updated the

1:19:51 ↗ street standards up update um so this is

1:19:55 ↗ again what design what uh guides how we

1:19:58 ↗ uh design roads and utilities are often

1:20:01 ↗ um found in

1:20:02 ↗ roads there was also uh many utilities

1:20:06 ↗ and public services type updates within

1:20:08 ↗ the land use

1:20:12 ↗ code and the isqua police department has

1:20:16 ↗ a policy manual that was updated in 2020

1:20:19 ↗ so

1:20:19 ↗ reflecting uh that as well

1:20:24 ↗ uh we took this document to the planning

1:20:27 ↗ policy commission uh for their review uh

1:20:30 ↗ we got a lot of good feedback and that

1:20:32 ↗ feedback is also in the

1:20:34 ↗ packet

1:20:40 ↗ um and again the uh the changes uh that

1:20:43 ↗ we're recommending tonight include uh

1:20:45 ↗ minor updates and

1:20:47 ↗ revisions

1:20:49 ↗ um ways to reduce redundancies we also

1:20:52 ↗ want to uh the in coordination with

1:20:55 ↗ State Regional and Cy uh

1:20:57 ↗ regulations uh we also have uh policies

1:21:01 ↗ that will further our climate resiliency

1:21:04 ↗ and our ability to weather natural

1:21:07 ↗ disasters reflecting also our greenhouse

1:21:10 ↗ gas emission reduction uh goals as well

1:21:13 ↗ as um our desire to improve Equity with

1:21:15 ↗ throughout the

1:21:18 ↗ community I'm actually going to pause

1:21:20 ↗ here uh I need a battery

1:21:23 ↗ need to charge my my

1:21:51 ↗ computer

1:22:07 ↗ okay back in business right back in

1:22:09 ↗ business yeah I've just been talking so

1:22:12 ↗ long um my computer's turn to die yeah

1:22:15 ↗ thanks very much

1:22:21 ↗ um

1:22:23 ↗ um so again uh looking specifically at

1:22:27 ↗ the utilities um Public Services element

1:22:31 ↗ uh you'll notice that it's been

1:22:32 ↗ completely reorganized um again this is

1:22:35 ↗ just to help out with the flow um reduce

1:22:38 ↗ a lot of the Clutter

1:22:40 ↗ um there were several uh sort of Legacy

1:22:43 ↗ uh policies and goals that were carried

1:22:46 ↗ over for many iterations of of updates

1:22:49 ↗ um it's really just kind of a cleanup

1:22:51 ↗ effort with some revisions and just

1:22:54 ↗ making it uh more applicable to

1:22:58 ↗ today you'll see that lots of these

1:23:00 ↗ goals um are aligned with previous goals

1:23:04 ↗ and there's sort of a amalgamation of

1:23:07 ↗ themes that we've collected throughout

1:23:09 ↗ the old

1:23:11 ↗ document we also have uh with Goal F we

1:23:14 ↗ are expanding it to include septic

1:23:16 ↗ management which was not part of it

1:23:21 ↗ previously so

1:23:23 ↗ for uh for goal a this is level service

1:23:26 ↗ and future

1:23:28 ↗ needs

1:23:30 ↗ um the summary of this is we're making

1:23:32 ↗ changes to support implementation and

1:23:35 ↗ reduce

1:23:37 ↗ redundancies for goal B we're trying to

1:23:40 ↗ consolidate and improve consistency and

1:23:43 ↗ make sure that we're compliant with uh

1:23:46 ↗ with regulations uh through the county

1:23:49 ↗ as well as coordination with our IAP

1:24:00 ↗ do apologize looks like my computer was

1:24:01 ↗ not

1:24:07 ↗ connected want to how long five minutes

1:24:09 ↗ want we're going to do another five

1:24:11 ↗ minute recess

1:24:12 ↗ for technical

1:24:15 ↗ support we'll be back

1:24:21 ↗ shortly

1:25:29 ↗ all right chance I think we're ready to

1:25:32 ↗ go I like this all right we are back I'm

1:25:37 ↗ just back in business back in business

1:25:40 ↗ thanks very much I apologize for

1:25:42 ↗ technical difficulties um so I will go

1:25:45 ↗ back just to

1:25:47 ↗ refresh R um so again uh updates to goal

1:25:51 ↗ a this is to support implementation and

1:25:54 ↗ reduce

1:25:56 ↗ redundancies uh goal B changes we're

1:25:58 ↗ hoping to consolidate add consistency

1:26:02 ↗ and make sure that we're being

1:26:03 ↗ compliant with regulations and uh you

1:26:06 ↗ know coordinating with

1:26:09 ↗ IAP with Goal C uh we're really just

1:26:12 ↗ hoping to reduce redundancies on this

1:26:15 ↗ one um this is related to service and

1:26:19 ↗ coordination and

1:26:21 ↗ collaboration

1:26:30 ↗ with gold D changes to Resource

1:26:34 ↗ conservation um this is to support

1:26:36 ↗ sustainability efforts as well as reduce

1:26:38 ↗ redundancies throughout the

1:26:41 ↗ document uh goal e is about water

1:26:43 ↗ utilities and we're hoping to reduce

1:26:45 ↗ redundancies and improve

1:26:49 ↗ formatting for goal F and G uh lots of

1:26:54 ↗ these changes are to improve service

1:26:56 ↗ outcomes and to Pro our conservation

1:27:02 ↗ efforts I'll pause here for um for

1:27:05 ↗ questions

1:27:07 ↗ questions council

1:27:09 ↗ president just one since this one was um

1:27:12 ↗ really

1:27:13 ↗ straightforward but there's one um

1:27:16 ↗ policy

1:27:17 ↗ D12 which is

1:27:19 ↗ under resource conservation that says

1:27:23 ↗ reduce material going to garbage by

1:27:25 ↗ diverting more to recycle and compost

1:27:27 ↗ the regulations programs incentives and

1:27:29 ↗ education and Outreach we have um like

1:27:32 ↗ landfill diversion elsewhere um so I I

1:27:36 ↗ wasn't sure if we had chosen the word

1:27:38 ↗ garbage like specifically because like

1:27:40 ↗ when I think of garbage garbage I think

1:27:41 ↗ of someone's like individual Gar so

1:27:43 ↗ maybe this Focus was more on the

1:27:45 ↗ individual and less on broader landfill

1:27:47 ↗ diversion so my question is I thought

1:27:50 ↗ the word garbage was kind of an odd um

1:27:53 ↗ Choice there so what was the intent

1:27:55 ↗ behind this

1:27:57 ↗ one I'm actually going to lean on uh

1:28:00 ↗ Matt Ellis who's

1:28:02 ↗ uh with us remotely he's our um

1:28:07 ↗ utilities engineering

1:28:10 ↗ manager sorry I'm not able to attend

1:28:12 ↗ tonight I'm under the weather um but my

1:28:15 ↗ Ellis utility engineering manager and on

1:28:17 ↗ that one I think it was just an

1:28:18 ↗ oversight so we are mainly we are

1:28:21 ↗ looking at

1:28:22 ↗ uh reduce reduction of solid waste as a

1:28:26 ↗ whole uh and uh diversion to uh

1:28:31 ↗ Recycling and compost for not just

1:28:34 ↗ residential but for all uh practices so

1:28:37 ↗ it might be just a wording I think that

1:28:39 ↗ we can

1:28:41 ↗ change okay thanks Matt I'm sorry you're

1:28:43 ↗ under the weather but thanks for the

1:28:45 ↗ clarification

1:28:48 ↗ y any other questions on this section

1:28:51 ↗ okay

1:28:52 ↗ okay let's

1:28:55 ↗ uh move on then to Capital

1:29:05 ↗ facilities again we'll uh move into

1:29:08 ↗ Capital facilities and you'll be asked

1:29:10 ↗ the similar questions that you've been

1:29:13 ↗ asked uh the previous um any additional

1:29:17 ↗ considerations for the PPC to study

1:29:20 ↗ before finalizing their recommendations

1:29:22 ↗ uh do the proposed changes meet your

1:29:24 ↗ expectations for the capital facilities

1:29:26 ↗ element update and are there any

1:29:29 ↗ additional topics that the

1:29:30 ↗ administration should consider when

1:29:32 ↗ making final

1:29:36 ↗ edits um so Capital facil facilities

1:29:40 ↗ again uh hoping to reduce redundancies

1:29:42 ↗ and support the city's commitment to

1:29:45 ↗ sustainability and better coordinate

1:29:48 ↗ with functional plans so as it relates

1:29:50 ↗ to Capital facilities we have several

1:29:52 ↗ utilities plans that have been updated

1:29:55 ↗ throughout the last couple years Street

1:29:57 ↗ standards land use code

1:30:00 ↗ update again we have the uh ipd uh

1:30:04 ↗ police policy manual as well as some

1:30:06 ↗ updates to Mobility master plan Parks um

1:30:10 ↗ the capital Improvement program the

1:30:12 ↗ transportation Improvement program and

1:30:15 ↗ uh some updates uh to the Sewer Master

1:30:18 ↗ Plan which is in

1:30:20 ↗ development the the document is

1:30:22 ↗ organized we have three sections level

1:30:25 ↗ of service sustainability and results

1:30:27 ↗ and

1:30:29 ↗ accountability we took this to the

1:30:31 ↗ planning policy commission for their

1:30:32 ↗ review they had some really good uh

1:30:35 ↗ comments which we've uh Incorporated in

1:30:37 ↗ here and uh the administration is

1:30:39 ↗ recommending that we uh make the

1:30:42 ↗ following changes to reduce redundancy

1:30:45 ↗ um support our sustainability

1:30:46 ↗ commitments and then also um improve our

1:30:50 ↗ implementation um so they can really be

1:30:53 ↗ summarized on a couple slides um just

1:30:56 ↗ some really minor updates to level of

1:30:59 ↗ service as well as uh

1:31:02 ↗ consistency with regulations uh in Gold

1:31:05 ↗ d uh we have some minor updates to um

1:31:10 ↗ really attempt to uh improve

1:31:13 ↗ implementation um from the finance uh

1:31:16 ↗ perspective uh City budgeting and then

1:31:19 ↗ uh making sure that revenue is

1:31:23 ↗ priority there are also some uh topics

1:31:26 ↗ that were

1:31:27 ↗ uh based off Title 18 so making sure

1:31:31 ↗ that we're um promoting sustainability

1:31:34 ↗ uh and Equitable practices and making

1:31:37 ↗ sure that um the periodic update uh

1:31:41 ↗ goals are uh

1:31:45 ↗ aligned um so just to sort of wrap up

1:31:47 ↗ these three uh element topics

1:31:52 ↗ um timing and next steps the council's

1:31:54 ↗ going to uh get another shot at this um

1:31:58 ↗ and then we're hoping to adopt in Q3 um

1:32:02 ↗ next

1:32:04 ↗ year I'll just stop on this slide um

1:32:07 ↗ this is a sum summary of the three uh

1:32:10 ↗ elements and hoping to get your feedback

1:32:12 ↗ on these three any uh before we go into

1:32:16 ↗ feedback any uh questions Rel related to

1:32:19 ↗ Capital

1:32:20 ↗ facilities or the

1:32:22 ↗ timeline council president um really

1:32:25 ↗ quick one on a level of service one

1:32:28 ↗ policy B9 this is the one that just

1:32:31 ↗ talks about how there are five

1:32:33 ↗ intersections that can operate at a

1:32:34 ↗ level of service of e or F and I was

1:32:37 ↗ just curious here's why why that is it

1:32:39 ↗ just because there's so much beyond our

1:32:41 ↗ control at those particular areas that's

1:32:44 ↗ exactly right yeah those um those level

1:32:46 ↗ of level service e intersections are Ty

1:32:49 ↗ typically the wash dot intersections um

1:32:52 ↗ we we really don't have much control

1:32:54 ↗ over those

1:33:03 ↗ so um have any questions well let's uh

1:33:06 ↗ let's do some feedback then um Direction

1:33:12 ↗ um I want to go

1:33:19 ↗ first um all right

1:33:22 ↗ uh if it's okay with you I've kind of

1:33:25 ↗ like

1:33:26 ↗ flagged places of feedback in the

1:33:28 ↗ section so I'm just going to go through

1:33:29 ↗ it so bear with me some of them have

1:33:31 ↗ already been answered and addressed

1:33:32 ↗ already won't be here um so starting

1:33:37 ↗ with the transportation element this

1:33:39 ↗ wasn't

1:33:41 ↗ um should have just wrote it all

1:33:45 ↗ out this wasn't uh a change in the

1:33:49 ↗ transportation element but one

1:33:52 ↗ of the policies in goal a proactive

1:33:55 ↗ safety is about developing and adapting

1:33:56 ↗ a vision zero ordinance U which is about

1:33:59 ↗ pedestrian safety and reducing

1:34:01 ↗ collisions um I was I think it might and

1:34:06 ↗ I don't know if it needs to live in here

1:34:07 ↗ or maybe it's more on the implementation

1:34:09 ↗ side as staff but it' be good for us to

1:34:12 ↗ have some language about how we learn

1:34:14 ↗ from the successes and shortcomings of

1:34:16 ↗ cities who have tried to do this um

1:34:18 ↗ Seattle being a prime example of a lot

1:34:21 ↗ of short comings in their Vision zero

1:34:22 ↗ plan even the Seattle Department of

1:34:25 ↗ Transportation secretary or director

1:34:27 ↗ whatever they call it saying that a lot

1:34:29 ↗ of their program is very siloed uh and

1:34:31 ↗ lives in kind of one part of esta and

1:34:34 ↗ not throughout the whole city so I don't

1:34:36 ↗ know if that's good feedback for this

1:34:39 ↗ language or just something to be mindful

1:34:40 ↗ of during implementation just wanted to

1:34:42 ↗ make sure to say that um because I know

1:34:45 ↗ bview has had problems with that too

1:34:47 ↗ so their Vision zero plan um all right

1:34:51 ↗ goal

1:34:53 ↗ be up there I think that was just

1:34:56 ↗ [Music]

1:35:00 ↗ agreeing know that we'll see oh it's

1:35:02 ↗ this one um there also wasn't a update

1:35:06 ↗ to this one the last one of goal B

1:35:08 ↗ policy B6 support the implementation of

1:35:11 ↗ the park strategic plan including the

1:35:13 ↗ development of the green necklace um I

1:35:17 ↗ know this just because I'm also on the

1:35:20 ↗ um

1:35:22 ↗ what's the other committee that I'm on

1:35:25 ↗ Planning Development and environment um

1:35:28 ↗ committee and council member hunt would

1:35:30 ↗ say that we need stronger language

1:35:32 ↗ around the green necklace here so my

1:35:34 ↗ suggestion is we just remove the word

1:35:36 ↗ support and we do implement the park

1:35:38 ↗ strategic plan including the development

1:35:39 ↗ of the green necklace

1:35:44 ↗ um um and I think that regardless of

1:35:47 ↗ what we do here at the committee that

1:35:49 ↗ she'll want to do that once it comes to

1:35:51 ↗ the full Council anyways so I agree with

1:35:53 ↗ her anyways I think we should be a

1:35:55 ↗ little bit stronger there um so um let's

1:35:58 ↗ remove support um go

1:36:01 ↗ [Music]

1:36:08 ↗ C oh I'm

1:36:12 ↗ sorry um oh um consider goal C5 is the

1:36:17 ↗ one that's a partner with Sound Transit

1:36:18 ↗ and bring light R service to isquad by

1:36:20 ↗ adopting supportive land use policies

1:36:22 ↗ one of the feedback of tab and PPC was

1:36:25 ↗ to consider specifying what those land

1:36:27 ↗ use policies might be um you said

1:36:30 ↗ earlier in the presentation not that we

1:36:32 ↗ wouldn't want to reference specific

1:36:33 ↗ plans but the light rail plan that we

1:36:36 ↗ just looked at did talk about some kind

1:36:38 ↗ of internal policies that we should

1:36:40 ↗ consider and start framing conversations

1:36:42 ↗ to prepare for light rail including land

1:36:44 ↗ use so maybe we maybe we'd be specific

1:36:47 ↗ and reference some of that work or again

1:36:50 ↗ maybe that's more of an

1:36:52 ↗ implementation um aspect I just wanted

1:36:55 ↗ to provide that

1:36:58 ↗ feedback um gold D again this is the the

1:37:02 ↗ one about sidewalks on both sides um

1:37:04 ↗ within a quarter mile of Transit stops

1:37:07 ↗ let's just check and make sure that

1:37:08 ↗ doesn't have any adverse impact on our

1:37:10 ↗ plans for Newport Way

1:37:12 ↗ Northwest

1:37:13 ↗ um go e was the one about increasing go

1:37:17 ↗ E2 was the one about increasing use of

1:37:19 ↗ electric pedal assisted

1:37:22 ↗ bicycles

1:37:24 ↗ um I know PPC wanted to distinguish

1:37:27 ↗ ebikes from mopeds I would actually

1:37:29 ↗ rather go in the opposite direction of

1:37:31 ↗ being more inclusive of any kind of e

1:37:34 ↗ assisted micr Mobility option especially

1:37:37 ↗ because over the next 20 years we have

1:37:38 ↗ no idea what those potential

1:37:40 ↗ alternatives are going to look like so I

1:37:42 ↗ think maybe if we say pedal assistant

1:37:44 ↗ bicycles that's fine I would I would

1:37:46 ↗ Advocate that we also include and other

1:37:49 ↗ emerging micro ability similar emerging

1:37:52 ↗ micro ability tools or something like

1:37:54 ↗ that

1:37:56 ↗ um and that is actually all my feedback

1:38:00 ↗ on Transportation oh are we doing all

1:38:03 ↗ the elements just keep it going okay all

1:38:05 ↗ right sorry the other ones um I was just

1:38:09 ↗ very passionate about that element so

1:38:11 ↗ there's a lot more there the other ones

1:38:13 ↗ are a lot more straightforward in my

1:38:14 ↗ mind and that's ATT Testament to the

1:38:16 ↗ reorganization and the great work that

1:38:17 ↗ you and staff did

1:38:20 ↗ um so it sounds like for the um the

1:38:23 ↗ utilities and public services element

1:38:26 ↗ we're going to look at that goal or

1:38:28 ↗ policy E2 which says garbage and just

1:38:31 ↗ make sure that's aligned with what we

1:38:33 ↗ truly mean by that and I thought I

1:38:35 ↗ thought there was another policy later

1:38:36 ↗ on in the the element that talked about

1:38:39 ↗ land waste diversion so that that might

1:38:41 ↗ even be one we consider striking just

1:38:44 ↗ for redundancy purposes but I'll leave

1:38:45 ↗ that up to all of you um I think that

1:38:48 ↗ was all that I had on utility

1:38:51 ↗ utilities and public services except to

1:38:53 ↗ say that the new section on septic and

1:38:57 ↗ Sewer is perfectly aligned with the

1:39:00 ↗ conversation that we had at committee

1:39:02 ↗ last month so just wanted to say that on

1:39:03 ↗ camera thank you

1:39:06 ↗ um and capital facilities

1:39:11 ↗ element well that was just a question we

1:39:13 ↗ might actually be good on the

1:39:16 ↗ cap oh I think actually just a

1:39:20 ↗ um

1:39:22 ↗ somewhat of a disagreement with some PPC

1:39:24 ↗ feedback so goal F which is around

1:39:26 ↗ sustainability seemed like there was

1:39:28 ↗ maybe some PP PPC conversation around um

1:39:33 ↗ it being difficult to keep track of um

1:39:36 ↗ implementation of sustainability if it's

1:39:38 ↗ living in multiple

1:39:40 ↗ elements I don't think that's

1:39:41 ↗ necessarily true especially because

1:39:43 ↗ these these documents are really high

1:39:44 ↗ level policy documents that staff are

1:39:47 ↗ are looking to and sometimes you're just

1:39:49 ↗ looking at one element so it would be be

1:39:51 ↗ good to have some guidance around sust

1:39:52 ↗ sustainability when you're focused in

1:39:54 ↗ that one element so I just wanted to say

1:39:56 ↗ for the record I'm not I'm not concerned

1:39:58 ↗ with that um those are my specific

1:40:02 ↗ tweaks um and feedback

1:40:06 ↗ points don't think I have any additional

1:40:09 ↗ topics for the administration to

1:40:11 ↗ continue we did get um the

1:40:13 ↗ administration to consider we did get

1:40:15 ↗ some um Community feedback and there

1:40:18 ↗ were two points um one was

1:40:22 ↗ whether I think it was the

1:40:26 ↗ second abilities and public services um

1:40:30 ↗ potentially removing the references to

1:40:33 ↗ um when feasible with regard to um City

1:40:37 ↗ development and um and there being a

1:40:40 ↗ concern that there might be different

1:40:41 ↗ paths for public and private development

1:40:44 ↗ and I just wanted to say I I don't

1:40:45 ↗ necessarily feel that concerned myself I

1:40:47 ↗ I think it's important in the role of

1:40:50 ↗ the city to set policy for um throughout

1:40:53 ↗ the city and and to be responsive to the

1:40:55 ↗ community and their priorities but it's

1:40:57 ↗ also our role to be fiduciaries and

1:40:59 ↗ sometimes those two inflict when we're

1:41:02 ↗ looking at our own properties something

1:41:04 ↗ to think about for the administration I

1:41:06 ↗ guess but I just wanted to say that I

1:41:07 ↗ don't feel strongly about making those

1:41:10 ↗ changes in removing that language and

1:41:12 ↗ then also if you think that there was

1:41:14 ↗ also an ask to include some reference to

1:41:16 ↗ stream projects and Wetland enhancement

1:41:18 ↗ projects that I thought potentially

1:41:20 ↗ could useful feedback so just wanted to

1:41:22 ↗ elevate that here and if you think that

1:41:24 ↗ should exist anywhere in these documents

1:41:26 ↗ or if that's more part um great um and

1:41:31 ↗ then just to close out I want to say

1:41:33 ↗ thank you for all the incredible work

1:41:35 ↗ you've done on this um this is a lot of

1:41:40 ↗ paper and um you know Council m d

1:41:44 ↗ Michelle and I are both on two

1:41:45 ↗ committees so we have had to look at

1:41:46 ↗ lots of these packets over the last few

1:41:48 ↗ months and they are all equally

1:41:51 ↗ um thick and demonstrate the hard work

1:41:55 ↗ that our staff are doing to make sure

1:41:57 ↗ that we're aligning all of plans updates

1:42:00 ↗ with our new plans community visioning

1:42:02 ↗ and all that stuff so I just really

1:42:04 ↗ wanted to say I appreciate this this

1:42:06 ↗ could not have taken I'm sure this took

1:42:08 ↗ a long time to put together and prepare

1:42:10 ↗ for these conversations and the number

1:42:11 ↗ of touches that all these things have

1:42:13 ↗ had with boards and commissions

1:42:16 ↗ too good

1:42:19 ↗ job d any comments okay I'm totally

1:42:23 ↗ embarrassed and CH

1:42:24 ↗ grin because uh uh my comments will be

1:42:28 ↗ very brief uh uh thank you so much

1:42:31 ↗ council member hall for the thorough

1:42:34 ↗ review uh of the items that you

1:42:37 ↗ mentioned I would do a plus one on the

1:42:40 ↗ stronger wording for the green necklace

1:42:44 ↗ uh I know council member hunt has

1:42:45 ↗ expressed that she wants stronger

1:42:47 ↗ language there and I support that as

1:42:50 ↗ well so

1:42:51 ↗ um and then uh I've already expressed

1:42:54 ↗ the additional item that I would like to

1:42:56 ↗ see considered at least in the uh

1:42:59 ↗ Transportation element and other than

1:43:02 ↗ that um I I refer to council member Hall

1:43:05 ↗ he did really great review uh I did not

1:43:08 ↗ have any other additions that I wanted

1:43:10 ↗ to bring to your uh attention um and I

1:43:14 ↗ do join him as well in saying uh

1:43:17 ↗ fantastic job look at the amount of work

1:43:19 ↗ that you brought before us tonight so

1:43:22 ↗ thank you again for U just all the work

1:43:24 ↗ that you do and that all the team does

1:43:27 ↗ it's it's really impressive so thank

1:43:30 ↗ you I have to be doubly um I'm not going

1:43:33 ↗ to say anything because I think you guys

1:43:35 ↗ did a spectacular job of going going

1:43:37 ↗ through the document in great detail um

1:43:40 ↗ the one thing I really I I do want to

1:43:41 ↗ say is on the appreciation thing the

1:43:45 ↗ documents you know and I I haven't been

1:43:47 ↗ around as long as hola has but I've been

1:43:49 ↗ around for a while now the documents are

1:43:51 ↗ getting so much better and so much

1:43:52 ↗ easier to read and so much easier to

1:43:54 ↗ follow and and that's that's not

1:43:56 ↗ happening by accident and so taking the

1:43:59 ↗ time to do the cleanup is really uh

1:44:01 ↗ delivering great results so thank you

1:44:03 ↗ guys for for um doing some of that very

1:44:07 ↗ tedious work but it it really pays super

1:44:10 ↗ dividends so that's all I've got Thomas

1:44:12 ↗ do you have what you need got everything

1:44:15 ↗ I need thanks very much for your

1:44:16 ↗ comments appreciate it right um we um at

1:44:19 ↗ the end of the agenda any announcements

1:44:21 ↗ any

1:44:22 ↗ comments no all right then we're going

1:44:25 ↗ to adjourn the meeting at 8:15 thank you

1:44:28 ↗ very

1:44:29 ↗ much

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