City Council Committee of the Whole · Tuesday, July 16, 2024 · City Council Digest

3. AGENDA ITEMS

Strategic Plan Update Task Force Report Out COM 0054

45 min · Dale Markey-Crimp, Assistant to the City Administrator · packet pp.5–96

▶ Watch from 7:57 Open packet at p.5 ↗

Staff report:

The Administration recommends that the City Council: • Provide feedback on the recommended updates to the Strategic Plan objectives and proposed actions, and • Approve the proposed path for the next steps in updating the Strategic Plan.

Facilities & Revenue Options COM 0055

Director · 90 min · Autumn Monahan, Administrative Services · packet pp.97–123

Previously discussed: City Council Regular Meeting · May 8, 2023

▶ Watch from 52:57 Open packet at p.97 ↗

Staff report:

Administration recommends: • Continuing to research and further scope costs for a phased approach to an Olde Town Municipal Campus in preparation for the 2025-26 budget season.

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0:05 ↗ welcome everyone I council president

0:07 ↗ Walsh called the July 16th special

0:10 ↗ Committee of the whole meeting to order

0:13 ↗ at 6:30 p.m. as a reminder we continue

0:16 ↗ to have a remote aspect to our meeting

0:19 ↗ so both staff and members of the public

0:21 ↗ may be participating in tonight's

0:23 ↗ meeting remotely via WebEx tonight

0:25 ↗ council member Ry has an excused

0:28 ↗ absence there are going to be multiple

0:31 ↗ public comment comment opportunities at

0:33 ↗ tonight's meeting um there's a general

0:36 ↗ public comment opportunity at the

0:37 ↗ beginning of the meeting or you can make

0:40 ↗ comments after the presentation and then

0:42 ↗ Council question and answer period on

0:45 ↗ either of tonight's agenda

0:47 ↗ items

0:49 ↗ so um we'll start with public comment

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1:35 ↗ evening yes uh council president we have

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2:47 ↗ be permitted uh clerk can you identify

2:50 ↗ the first person who has signed up to

2:51 ↗ speak yes council president Kelly

2:53 ↗ Richardson would like to speak to the

2:55 ↗ committee excellent come on up thank you

3:04 ↗ okay thank you very much good evening

3:07 ↗ counil my name is Kelly Richardson and I

3:10 ↗ live at

3:11 ↗ 14910 262nd Avenue Southeast in

3:15 ↗ isqua I am here today wearing two hats

3:19 ↗ the first is the commercial director for

3:21 ↗ rowy properties and the second is as a

3:25 ↗ dedicated C citizen to our wonderful

3:28 ↗ Community additionally I serve as an

3:30 ↗ economic Vitality commissioner for

3:33 ↗ issaqua people choose to live in isqua

3:36 ↗ because of our exceptional quality of

3:39 ↗ life our outstanding schools and the

3:42 ↗ Beautiful Outdoors that surround us

3:45 ↗ similarly businesses are drawn to

3:48 ↗ issaqua Due it due to its convenient

3:50 ↗ access proximity to their homes and team

3:53 ↗ members neighborhoods and the presence

3:56 ↗ of synergistic businesses and

3:58 ↗ demographics

4:00 ↗ one of the most compelling reasons both

4:03 ↗ residents and businesses choose isqua is

4:06 ↗ the sense of Safety and Security our

4:09 ↗ community

4:10 ↗ provides this Safety and Security is

4:13 ↗ vital to maintaining the high quality of

4:15 ↗ life that we all

4:17 ↗ cherish the presence of a safe and

4:19 ↗ secure environment ensures that

4:21 ↗ businesses can Thrive employees feel

4:24 ↗ comfortable and families can enjoy the

4:26 ↗ peace of mind that comes with living in

4:29 ↗ our secure Community the isqua police

4:33 ↗ department plays a crucial role in

4:35 ↗ upholding this Safety and Security our

4:39 ↗ community has grown and unfortunately

4:42 ↗ organized crime came to isqua during Co

4:46 ↗ Chief Schwan and her team have done a

4:49 ↗ fantastic job reducing

4:52 ↗ crime however the crime did grow beyond

4:55 ↗ the facilities and resources that were

4:57 ↗ available organized crime is still here

5:00 ↗ due to isqua's

5:02 ↗ accessibility for example a national

5:05 ↗ retail store in the isqua highlands

5:07 ↗ listed isqua as their number 10 in the

5:11 ↗ top 10 of their stores in the nation for

5:14 ↗ Crime at the end of 20123 and they have

5:17 ↗ many many many

5:18 ↗ stores as another example a local

5:22 ↗ business experienced a break-in at their

5:24 ↗ retail store the perpetrators had an

5:27 ↗ automatic weapon the police police

5:30 ↗ arrived but the perpetrators could not

5:32 ↗ be found immediately yet they were still

5:35 ↗ in the area that was

5:36 ↗ known the police and retailer had to

5:39 ↗ wait for the King County Sheriff to

5:41 ↗ arrive with their canine

5:43 ↗ unit and eventually the perpetrators

5:45 ↗ were found hiding in the

5:48 ↗ rafters this delay highlights the need

5:50 ↗ for more resources locally issaqua

5:53 ↗ should have the resources our community

5:55 ↗ needs to address crime

5:57 ↗ effectively supporting and and

5:59 ↗ appreciating the isqua police

6:01 ↗ department's dedication and hard work

6:03 ↗ ensures that our community remains a

6:05 ↗ place where people feel safe to live

6:08 ↗ work and play their presence is a

6:12 ↗ Cornerstone of the quality of life in

6:14 ↗ issaqua fostering a sense of trust and

6:17 ↗ stability among residents and businesses

6:20 ↗ alike also isqua must have a police

6:24 ↗ station facility that is on par with

6:26 ↗ other jurisdictions we must have the

6:29 ↗ capacity to grow our force and resources

6:32 ↗ a crowded facility is not efficient for

6:34 ↗ the police or city

6:37 ↗ staff I am here to express my full

6:40 ↗ support for the issaqua police

6:41 ↗ department and to advocate for expanding

6:43 ↗ their facilities their efforts are

6:46 ↗ instrumental in maintaining the Safety

6:48 ↗ and Security that are so vital to our

6:50 ↗ community's

6:51 ↗ well-being I urge the council to

6:54 ↗ continue your support of the police

6:57 ↗ department ensuring they have the

6:58 ↗ resources backing they need to perform

7:01 ↗ their duties

7:02 ↗ effectively thank you for your time and

7:05 ↗ consideration I know together we ensure

7:08 ↗ that isqua remains a safe secure and

7:11 ↗ thriving Community for everyone thank

7:15 ↗ you thank you very much do we have

7:18 ↗ anyone else signed up or indicating a

7:20 ↗ desire to

7:25 ↗ speak no council president we do not

7:28 ↗ okay have a lot of lovely people in the

7:30 ↗ audience from our uh task force for the

7:33 ↗ Strategic plan and we are happy to have

7:35 ↗ them and we will hear from them later um

7:38 ↗ in general we always want to say we

7:40 ↗ would love to hear from you um you can

7:43 ↗ always email uh city council at isqua

7:46 ↗ wa.gov and we appreciate hearing from

7:49 ↗ you in person or um via

7:52 ↗ email so looking at the agenda we have

7:57 ↗ two agenda items on our list tonight

8:01 ↗ we've got Comm 0054 the Strategic Plan

8:05 ↗ update task force and then following

8:07 ↗ that we've got Comm

8:10 ↗ 0055 facilities and revenue options so

8:13 ↗ starting with the first we've got Dale

8:16 ↗ Mary crimp assistant to the city

8:18 ↗ administrator with presentation and all

8:21 ↗ of our lovely task force members

8:36 ↗ good evening members of the council my

8:39 ↗ name is Dale Mary crimp I am the

8:40 ↗ assistant of the city administrator and

8:42 ↗ also the staff Le on to the mayor's

8:44 ↗ strategic Plan update task force a long

8:48 ↗ a long name and I am thrilled to be the

8:52 ↗ uh warmup to what will be an incredible

8:54 ↗ presentation tonight from our task force

8:57 ↗ members before I turn it over to them

8:59 ↗ though I I will walk through a purpose

9:01 ↗ and some background for the group so the

9:05 ↗ purpose of tonight's presentation is to

9:07 ↗ provide a report on the recommendations

9:09 ↗ from the mayoral task force on updates

9:12 ↗ to the our isqua strategic

9:15 ↗ plan specifically tonight we're looking

9:17 ↗ for direction from City Council on two

9:20 ↗ uh in two ways one feedback on the

9:23 ↗ recommended updates to the objectives

9:25 ↗ made by the task force and second a

9:28 ↗ recommendation of about the proposed

9:30 ↗ path forward in the Plan

9:35 ↗ update as is useful I'm also going to

9:37 ↗ provide some background on the plan and

9:40 ↗ the process by which this group came to

9:43 ↗ be in front of you this

9:44 ↗ evening the our isqua strategic plan was

9:48 ↗ adopted in 2019 following an 18-month

9:51 ↗ process this process was grounded in and

9:54 ↗ led by Community sentiment input and

9:58 ↗ feedback

9:59 ↗ through surveys listening sessions and

10:02 ↗ other public

10:04 ↗ meetings from this process emerged the

10:07 ↗ our isqua strategic plan with its six

10:09 ↗ goal areas Mobility infrastructure

10:13 ↗ growth and development environmental

10:15 ↗ stewardship City leadership and services

10:18 ↗ and social and economic Vitality I will

10:20 ↗ be honest after the past 6 months I feel

10:23 ↗ like I can close my eyes and I see the

10:26 ↗ wheel in my

10:28 ↗ eyelids that is a sign of a great

10:30 ↗ strategic

10:33 ↗ plan each goal area had one to five

10:37 ↗ objectives align and align to each of

10:39 ↗ those goal areas a number of potential

10:43 ↗ actions that the city could take towards

10:46 ↗ the goals articulated in the

10:48 ↗ plan well there has often been both in

10:51 ↗ this room and outside of it discussion

10:52 ↗ about whether the document is

10:55 ↗ operational or truly more aspirational

10:58 ↗ it has been star for the administration

11:01 ↗ and the city council since its adoption

11:05 ↗ and it represents the vision for our

11:07 ↗ community from our

11:09 ↗ community at the time of the plan's

11:11 ↗ adoption there was always a plan to

11:14 ↗ revisit the plan 5 years later because

11:18 ↗ in our Infinite Wisdom we anticipated

11:20 ↗ that a lot would change from 2019 until

11:25 ↗ 2024 little did we know exactly how much

11:28 ↗ the world might change shortly after the

11:30 ↗ plan's adoption and while it's difficult

11:33 ↗ to

11:34 ↗ delineate what changes in the way that

11:37 ↗ we live and the Way That We Gather and

11:39 ↗ the goals that we have are impacted

11:42 ↗ purely by the pandemic and which are

11:44 ↗ impacted by other elements and changes

11:46 ↗ in our community suffice to say much has

11:50 ↗ changed and so 5 years on it was time to

11:52 ↗ revisit the Strategic

11:57 ↗ plan given the essent essential um I I

12:01 ↗ would say both the the primary and the

12:03 ↗ essential role that isqua community

12:05 ↗ members played in the development of the

12:07 ↗ original strategic plan it was important

12:09 ↗ to Mayor paully that any update to the

12:11 ↗ plan also begin with Community

12:13 ↗ perspective and input you can see on the

12:16 ↗ screen some of the images from the

12:18 ↗ original plan and some of the images um

12:20 ↗ from the collaboration of our task force

12:22 ↗ over the course of the the first half of

12:25 ↗ this

12:26 ↗ year so a task force was assembled by

12:29 ↗ mayor paully to ensure representation

12:31 ↗ from various

12:32 ↗ perspectives um across the city

12:35 ↗ representing the diversity of opinion

12:37 ↗ and background that makes issaqua the

12:40 ↗ unique community that it is in addition

12:42 ↗ to two um members of city council and an

12:46 ↗ alternate member of city council there

12:48 ↗ were 11 other regular there were 11

12:50 ↗ regular members total um and four

12:52 ↗ alternates you can see their names

12:54 ↗ listed here um and we have nine of them

12:57 ↗ here in uh attendance tonight you'll get

12:59 ↗ to hear a bit more from them this

13:02 ↗ evening um you'll also notice that

13:05 ↗ there's representation from five City

13:07 ↗ boards and commissions in this uh very

13:10 ↗ excellent group of community

13:15 ↗ leaders before uh before I pass it over

13:18 ↗ to the main event our our folks that I'm

13:21 ↗ most excited and I'm sure you're most

13:22 ↗ excited to hear from this evening I'd

13:24 ↗ like to share a little bit about the

13:25 ↗ scope of the proposed update the focus

13:28 ↗ of this this update is not the

13:31 ↗ overarching vision or Mission outlined

13:34 ↗ in the Strategic plan nor is it a change

13:37 ↗ to the plan's six goal areas the

13:41 ↗ administration is confident that these

13:42 ↗ remain guiding a Guiding Light in our

13:46 ↗ plan the focus of this update is on the

13:49 ↗ objectives and actions within each goal

13:52 ↗ area the task force was asked to

13:54 ↗ consider whether the objectives of the

13:56 ↗ original plan remained relevant

13:59 ↗ and were from their perspective as

14:02 ↗ members of the isqua community moving

14:04 ↗ the needle towards the overarching

14:06 ↗ vision articulated in each goal

14:08 ↗ area in other words are we prioritizing

14:12 ↗ and doing the right stuff and taking the

14:15 ↗ right actions to get us closer to the

14:18 ↗ Future we've envisioned for the city

14:20 ↗ that we live in an embedded goal of this

14:23 ↗ process was also to scope the actions

14:27 ↗ and where possible the objective into a

14:29 ↗ 5-year time Horizon as well as to as to

14:32 ↗ make the objectives um a bit more

14:35 ↗ measurable so we could actually know

14:37 ↗ over the course of the next 5 years if

14:39 ↗ we're making progress towards what we

14:41 ↗ hope to achieve at the end of that five

14:43 ↗ years and the hope is that in 2030 when

14:46 ↗ we look at this plan again all of the

14:49 ↗ out the actions outlined in this plan

14:51 ↗ will have been accomplished and along

14:54 ↗ the way the administration will have

14:55 ↗ been able to let you and the community

14:57 ↗ know if we're heading headed in the

14:59 ↗ right

15:00 ↗ direction the task force met as you can

15:03 ↗ see on this screen six times over the

15:04 ↗ course of the winter and spring and

15:07 ↗ summer many seasons were experienced in

15:11 ↗ tibits we met first on February 29th to

15:14 ↗ ground in the original plan provide

15:17 ↗ feedback on elements of the background

15:20 ↗ and opportunities that we feel that the

15:23 ↗ task force felt needed an update in the

15:25 ↗ second meeting they met with City staff

15:27 ↗ members to learn more about the City's

15:29 ↗ functional plans and understand the work

15:31 ↗ that feeds into and Feeds out of the

15:34 ↗ Strategic plan the third meeting the

15:36 ↗ task force began brainstorming changes

15:39 ↗ to the objectives in each goal area at

15:42 ↗ the fourth meeting they did the same for

15:44 ↗ actions within each goal area at the

15:47 ↗ fifth meeting they provided feedback to

15:49 ↗ each other on their proposed draft

15:51 ↗ recommendations for both objectives and

15:53 ↗ actions at the sixth meeting we brought

15:55 ↗ those City staff members back and they

15:58 ↗ provided additional support as the task

16:00 ↗ force sought to smooth their

16:02 ↗ recommendations ensuring that their

16:03 ↗ recommendations are clear and

16:07 ↗ feasible so without further Ado um to

16:12 ↗ share the recommended updates from the

16:14 ↗ task force I'm going to turn it over to

16:16 ↗ our task force chair and vice chair pry

16:19 ↗ mod pan and Chris Richley

16:35 ↗ thank you D evening council members and

16:38 ↗ federal task force members and members

16:40 ↗ of the public my name is Chris Richley

16:43 ↗ I'm the uh chair of the or uh Vice chair

16:46 ↗ of the task force along with the being

16:49 ↗ the chair of the economic Vitality

16:50 ↗ commission for the city as well as a

16:52 ↗ 10-year resident of isqua um tonight as

16:55 ↗ you'll see um our original plan has 16

16:58 ↗ objectives

16:59 ↗ across six goal areas our proposed

17:02 ↗ updates actually keep these six goal

17:04 ↗ areas however reworks the

17:06 ↗ updates of almost all the

17:09 ↗ objectives along with adding four new

17:11 ↗ objectives in infrastructure City

17:14 ↗ leadership in services and

17:16 ↗ Mobility during this presentation our

17:19 ↗ proposed updates you will be hearing

17:20 ↗ from our fellow task members or present

17:24 ↗ and however before presenting our chair

17:27 ↗ will be highlighting some trends across

17:29 ↗ the recommended tax force uh Force

17:32 ↗ believes are worth introducing separate

17:34 ↗ from the updates individual goals so for

17:37 ↗ that I'll turn over to our chair

17:44 ↗ pretty thank you Chris Andale I'm pry

17:47 ↗ mod pan I'm the chair of the equity

17:50 ↗ board as well as uh had the honor of

17:53 ↗ serving as the chair of the Strategic

17:55 ↗ Plan update task force appointed by the

17:57 ↗ mayor and um I have been also a resident

18:02 ↗ of isqua for about 12 years I you she

18:04 ↗ her pronouns and so um as we looked

18:08 ↗ across the six goal areas of the

18:10 ↗ Strategic plan we noted six headlines or

18:13 ↗ themes to describe the changes we're

18:15 ↗ recommending in this updated plan and

18:18 ↗ those themes include so the first one is

18:21 ↗ emergency preparedness Community safety

18:24 ↗ and

18:25 ↗ resilience uh those items were a trend

18:28 ↗ across all group conversations propose

18:30 ↗ revisions to objectives in Mobility

18:33 ↗ environmental stewardship and City

18:35 ↗ leadership and services reflect this the

18:38 ↗ task force per perspective that this

18:40 ↗ needs to be a city priority over the

18:42 ↗ next five years and Beyond the second

18:45 ↗ theme was continued investment in

18:47 ↗ climate action and

18:49 ↗ sustainability um it's needed to uh can

18:52 ↗ we need this to continue to make

18:54 ↗ progress in our community's commitment

18:56 ↗ to environmental stewardship and resp

18:58 ↗ respond to the increased threats caused

19:00 ↗ by climate change our third theme was

19:04 ↗ housing affordability and

19:06 ↗ livability this remains a priority and

19:09 ↗ should be a core workstream we've

19:11 ↗ evolved from Simply thinking about

19:13 ↗ growth and development to considering

19:16 ↗ how growth and development intersects

19:18 ↗ with social and economic Vitality how

19:21 ↗ can isqua be a community that not only

19:24 ↗ says it's welcoming to all types of

19:26 ↗ people but also has the housing options

19:29 ↗ for individuals in different

19:31 ↗ socioeconomic

19:33 ↗ situations and um that's a good segue

19:35 ↗ into our fourth theme which is

19:37 ↗ operationalizing our Equity commitments

19:40 ↗ as you all may recall Equity was one of

19:42 ↗ the guiding principles feeding into the

19:44 ↗ Strategic plan development and so uh we

19:48 ↗ have Incorporated Equity into the

19:50 ↗ language of objectives and also in what

19:53 ↗ the city commits to doing and how it

19:56 ↗ does this work it's a change that the

19:59 ↗ task force would like to see and as I

20:02 ↗ said it's a guiding principle and it

20:05 ↗ it's one of the few guiding principles

20:07 ↗ that lacks a functional plan that uh

20:10 ↗ operationalizes it for the

20:12 ↗ city um let's see and the last theme is

20:16 ↗ isqua as a partner and a catalyst for

20:19 ↗ regional change the task force members

20:22 ↗ recognized that so much of what we hope

20:24 ↗ for in our

20:26 ↗ community the Future Vision and the new

20:28 ↗ term actions hinges on others so other

20:32 ↗ jurisdictions agencies and partners a

20:35 ↗ commitment to deepening Partnerships

20:36 ↗ were possible and becoming a regional

20:38 ↗ leader in spaces where Partners do not

20:41 ↗ yet exist is a key Trend across our

20:44 ↗ recommendations and with that um I'll

20:47 ↗ turn it over to Jason and TJ to share

20:49 ↗ their recommended updates to our first

20:51 ↗ goal

20:52 ↗ area which is infrastructure

21:03 ↗ all right Albert cello

21:06 ↗ yes so thank you all for having us this

21:09 ↗ evening as well I want to say thank you

21:11 ↗ to our chairs Chris Richley and pry

21:13 ↗ modan for a fantastic job also I'd be

21:16 ↗ remiss not to say a big thank you to our

21:19 ↗ staff leaon D Mary km we really could

21:23 ↗ not have asked for a better team to work

21:25 ↗ with and we've enjoyed working with all

21:26 ↗ of you on this project

21:29 ↗ my name is Jason voice and I'd now like

21:31 ↗ to introduce you to my better half this

21:33 ↗ evening yeah well thank you Jason and

21:36 ↗ good evening Council my name is TJ gner

21:38 ↗ long-term resident of isqua live in the

21:40 ↗ squawk Mountain uh neighborhood and I've

21:44 ↗ had the pleasure of serving on several

21:46 ↗ boards over the years uh the um uh

21:49 ↗ planning Comm the uh development

21:52 ↗ commission and uh I think it was the

21:54 ↗ rivers and streams commission which I

21:55 ↗ don't think exists anymore than rolled

21:58 ↗ into something else and U I would just

22:01 ↗ like to acknowledge the wisdom of Dale

22:05 ↗ to put the most exciting element of the

22:07 ↗ plan first and that's

22:10 ↗ infrastructure yeah that's the way to

22:12 ↗ hook somebody with infrastructure now I

22:14 ↗ know things like our lovely Parks our

22:17 ↗ outdoor spaces our mobility issues our

22:20 ↗ arts and culture elements are all really

22:23 ↗ important but I would just like to say

22:25 ↗ that when the water doesn't work or

22:28 ↗ we're flooding infrastructure gets

22:31 ↗ Mighty exciting so uh we had a lot of

22:33 ↗ great conversations with staff and we

22:35 ↗ like to think that every week is

22:37 ↗ infrastructure week in

22:40 ↗ isqua the original 2019 strategic plan

22:44 ↗ had only one objective within the

22:46 ↗ infrastructure goal area this objective

22:49 ↗ focused on having infrastructure plans

22:51 ↗ in

22:52 ↗ place uh we're recommending with this

22:55 ↗ update um that uh to add an objective

22:59 ↗ and uh a second objective uh around um

23:03 ↗ infrastructure res resilience and uh

23:06 ↗ beef up the wording on one of the uh

23:08 ↗ existing uh uh goals or objectives so uh

23:13 ↗ the two proposed objectives are as

23:15 ↗ follows plans and resources are up

23:18 ↗ to-date forward-looking and that's the

23:20 ↗ change that we made is added

23:21 ↗ forward-looking and are in place to

23:24 ↗ operate maintain and replace

23:26 ↗ infrastructure throughout its life cycle

23:29 ↗ and if you uh just go around disqual

23:31 ↗ right now you you see those Investments

23:33 ↗ being made and we think that's very

23:35 ↗ important to take care of that that

23:37 ↗ structure that we have in place the

23:40 ↗ second objective that we added and this

23:42 ↗ is keeping in mind what our vice chair

23:44 ↗ uh had just brought up is proactively

23:47 ↗ develop manage and improve city-owned

23:49 ↗ infrastructure to avoid long-term

23:52 ↗ disruption and service and prepare for

23:54 ↗ climate change related uh weather events

23:58 ↗ and and as we all know or as we're

24:00 ↗ experience experiencing with very hot

24:02 ↗ summers and some of the issues that

24:04 ↗ we're having is that climate change is

24:07 ↗ here it's impacting our infrastructure

24:10 ↗ and our quality of life and it's very

24:11 ↗ important to stay on top of the

24:13 ↗ Investments to keep that fresh and

24:16 ↗ healthy um so those are the uh couple of

24:19 ↗ uh items because we feel like it's

24:21 ↗ important that that a good solid

24:24 ↗ infrastructure is the base for emergency

24:27 ↗ services safety and environment and it's

24:30 ↗ it's the foundation that we can build

24:33 ↗ upon to uh prepare for what's coming in

24:36 ↗ the future so uh now on to Jason we'll

24:39 ↗ talk a little bit more about the

24:41 ↗ actions DJ in some of these proposed

24:44 ↗ actions that we feel aligned to these

24:46 ↗ objectives and represent a departure

24:48 ↗ from the previous plan are develop and

24:51 ↗ Implement an organization-wide asset

24:53 ↗ management policy and financial plan to

24:56 ↗ ensure sound stewardship of City assets

24:59 ↗ plan for and budget operations and

25:01 ↗ maintenance costs with all new capital

25:04 ↗ operated by the city effectively

25:06 ↗ communicate emergency weather conditions

25:08 ↗ with the community and partner with

25:11 ↗ local and Regional utilities to

25:12 ↗ coordinate

25:13 ↗ communication and when building updating

25:17 ↗ and retrofitting facilities minimize the

25:19 ↗ carbon impact from our consultation with

25:22 ↗ staff and our review of functional plans

25:25 ↗ we believe these actions are feasible

25:27 ↗ and align to the recommended

25:30 ↗ objective I believe that's it so we will

25:32 ↗ pass it off to Jamie before you do that

25:34 ↗ I just want to check in with Dale do you

25:37 ↗ think it's appropriate to ask questions

25:40 ↗ of each of the individual areas or is it

25:44 ↗ should we save questions and then ask

25:45 ↗ them to you at the

25:49 ↗ end okay just wanted to make sure yeah

25:52 ↗ any difficult questions can be addressed

25:54 ↗ to Jason oh fantastic thank you didn't

25:56 ↗ realize how funny TJ was

26:08 ↗ greetings Council I'm Jamie Finch uh I'm

26:11 ↗ a member of the environmental board and

26:13 ↗ I've been in isqua about the same length

26:15 ↗ of time as uh the Strategic plan so

26:17 ↗ about five years um Kelly uh was also a

26:21 ↗ member of my group but she'll be

26:22 ↗ covering we're kind of doing things a

26:23 ↗ bit different than than TJ and Jason

26:25 ↗ splitting up uh our topic areas

26:27 ↗ completely so

26:29 ↗ um so the original strategic plan had

26:32 ↗ four objectives within growth and

26:33 ↗ development and we haven't proposed any

26:36 ↗ really major changes we're kind of

26:38 ↗ reworking what was there um so those uh

26:42 ↗ summarizing those they're um focus on

26:44 ↗ neighborhood feeling forward-looking

26:46 ↗ land use policies sustainable

26:48 ↗ infrastructure and livability and

26:50 ↗ connection and one thing I just want to

26:52 ↗ note is our group um as you might expect

26:54 ↗ with growth and development we talked a

26:55 ↗ lot about housing affordability and

26:58 ↗ livability in the city and that

26:59 ↗ ultimately ended up in social social and

27:02 ↗ economic Vitality but um we spent almost

27:05 ↗ as much time as as on that topic as we

27:07 ↗ did on some of the other topics and and

27:09 ↗ I think the the themes I think are

27:11 ↗ resonating in in some of those other

27:13 ↗ areas but really a focus on increasing

27:16 ↗ affordable housing units and

27:17 ↗ incorporating increased density which

27:19 ↗ you'll see um in our uh in one of our

27:22 ↗ actions into our existing neighborhoods

27:24 ↗ so um that was a major topic of

27:26 ↗ discussion as as think anyone might

27:28 ↗ expect so um I won't read all of the

27:33 ↗ objective language for you guys I'll let

27:35 ↗ you guys do that um but I'll talk a

27:39 ↗ little bit about kind of the changes and

27:41 ↗ and what we uh decided to do with with

27:43 ↗ the four objectives that were there so

27:46 ↗ um the first objectives add some notes

27:49 ↗ uh about incorporating additional

27:50 ↗ housing and services um throughout the

27:52 ↗ city so this is kind of uh based on the

27:55 ↗ comment that I I made a second ago about

27:57 ↗ um how do we make sure that uh we are

28:00 ↗ incorporating that in the right way one

28:02 ↗ of the words that was in the previous uh

28:05 ↗ objectives that um I think we didn't

28:09 ↗ come up with the right language but um

28:11 ↗ based on a lot of uh feedback from the

28:13 ↗ group uh needed to probably not make it

28:16 ↗ into the final version was the word

28:18 ↗ character and and how that um is kind of

28:20 ↗ loaded language and so um we didn't get

28:23 ↗ to the point that we were word smithing

28:25 ↗ and but that was something that um

28:27 ↗ finding the right way to describe uh

28:29 ↗ maintaining the the Integrity of

28:31 ↗ neighborhoods but also um ensuring that

28:34 ↗ we were using language that was um kind

28:35 ↗ of updated and in line with with our Uh

28:38 ↗ current thinking is is is something that

28:41 ↗ whoever is finally writing this will

28:42 ↗ have the fun task of doing that so um

28:47 ↗ the second one uh really didn't change

28:49 ↗ very much but just emphasizing land use

28:51 ↗ plans and and we adopt since we've uh

28:55 ↗ done the update we've adopted Title 18

28:57 ↗ so um just ensuring that we're adding

29:00 ↗ regular updates for that um the third

29:02 ↗ objective did not change from the

29:04 ↗ previous uh

29:06 ↗ iteration um and then the fourth focused

29:08 ↗ on developing livable communities and

29:11 ↗ explicit calls out ecosystem health and

29:13 ↗ climate actions as priorities for growth

29:15 ↗ um we think those are just some new

29:17 ↗ elements that are um a lot of what we

29:20 ↗ think about as livability within isqua

29:23 ↗ has has remained the same but those are

29:24 ↗ some unique elements that we thought um

29:26 ↗ especially with some of the strains that

29:28 ↗ climate change will put on those things

29:30 ↗ that uh uh kind of necessitated some

29:33 ↗ additional uh mention so um I can go to

29:38 ↗ the next slide now um these were just a

29:41 ↗ few of the actions that we we uh decided

29:43 ↗ to highlight um so like I mentioned um

29:47 ↗ Title 18 has been adopted since or the

29:49 ↗ updates of Title 18 have been adopted

29:51 ↗ since the previous update and so um one

29:54 ↗ important action that we focused on was

29:56 ↗ ensuring that we complete all actions on

29:58 ↗ the title 18 future updates list um this

30:02 ↗ second uh action that we decided to

30:05 ↗ focus on was proactively identify how to

30:07 ↗ incorporate diversity of housing into

30:08 ↗ our neighborhoods to support residents

30:10 ↗ at all stag of their lives I think

30:12 ↗ there's two things going on there this

30:14 ↗ is this is uh discussing how uh we

30:17 ↗ incorporate uh different styles of

30:19 ↗ housing missing middle housing um and

30:22 ↗ also ensuring that that uh residents

30:24 ↗ have options to to age in place or um uh

30:28 ↗ basically have options for as they uh

30:31 ↗ reach other stages of life so um this

30:35 ↗ was something that uh really felt was an

30:37 ↗ important um stage or important uh topic

30:41 ↗ to highlight and I'm sure probably

30:43 ↗ economic and social Vitality we we'll

30:44 ↗ hit on this as well and then one final

30:47 ↗ action was just identifying and

30:49 ↗ addressing opportunities to improve

30:52 ↗ processes for developing within the city

30:53 ↗ so how can we reduce times for permits

30:55 ↗ how can we ensure that anything that's

30:57 ↗ within the Direct Control of the city to

30:59 ↗ reduce development costs um can be done

31:02 ↗ so um so from our consultation with

31:05 ↗ staff um and review of the functional

31:07 ↗ plans we believe these are generally

31:10 ↗ feasible and aligned as I said I think

31:11 ↗ we don't expect these to be and they

31:13 ↗ won't be the final the final versions

31:15 ↗ but uh hopefully uh are headed in the

31:18 ↗ right direction so appreciate thank you

31:20 ↗ thank you to Dale and and thank you to

31:23 ↗ um all the other staff members that

31:24 ↗ supported us as well as task task force

31:26 ↗ members so thank you

31:40 ↗ good evening uh council members uh my

31:43 ↗ name is Victor Bello I'm a resident of

31:45 ↗ isqua

31:47 ↗ for six and a half years or so and uh

31:51 ↗ recently appointed to the sister cities

31:53 ↗ commission um I'm here to walk you

31:55 ↗ through the social and economic Vitality

31:57 ↗ goal area in um the original 2019

32:01 ↗ strategic plan we had three objectives

32:04 ↗ within um this goal area we're

32:06 ↗ recommending retaining all three

32:08 ↗ objectives in their current form and a

32:10 ↗ continuous focus on business Recruitment

32:13 ↗ and Retention housing affordability and

32:16 ↗ Human Services for

32:19 ↗ all the three objectives uh shown as

32:23 ↗ follows where covered um or for the

32:27 ↗ first objective we the the task force

32:30 ↗ discussed strategies to help new and

32:32 ↗ existing businesses expand in isqua

32:35 ↗ helping them provide job opportunities

32:38 ↗ with wages high enough for workers to

32:40 ↗ also live in the

32:42 ↗ city um we felt that it was important

32:45 ↗ for us to provide the um opportunities

32:49 ↗ for people to reside in the city and

32:51 ↗ work here um as

32:53 ↗ well um with our second um

32:59 ↗ objective the task for discussed that

33:01 ↗ the city should how the city should best

33:04 ↗ address the affordable housing to ensure

33:07 ↗ that it covers and addresses the full um

33:11 ↗ income

33:12 ↗ Spectrum so that workers get to again

33:17 ↗ live in the city as they work um this

33:21 ↗ basically covers the second part of the

33:23 ↗ live and work in isqua for the third

33:27 ↗ objective

33:28 ↗ um

33:30 ↗ the um I lost my weight sorry about that

33:35 ↗ so for the third objective the um it

33:38 ↗ directs the administration or it directs

33:41 ↗ the city to um find and H to help the

33:46 ↗ residents find and engage the services

33:48 ↗ that are not only provided by the city

33:50 ↗ but also by organizations that work

33:52 ↗ within the city and giving them the

33:56 ↗ opportunity to um engage and to use

33:59 ↗ those services to help them Thrive um in

34:03 ↗ the community um to walk

34:06 ↗ you uh through the

34:09 ↗ actions

34:17 ↗ Chris hello again Chris Richley economic

34:20 ↗ Vitality uh chair and vice chair of the

34:23 ↗ task force uh as you see I mean you're

34:27 ↗ hearing a common theme over social and

34:29 ↗ economic Vitality which is work live and

34:32 ↗ and be able to you know be able to stay

34:35 ↗ in esqua right keep the money in isqua

34:37 ↗ so during the deliberations as a task

34:39 ↗ force and conversation with staff our

34:40 ↗ biggest recommendation updates come in

34:42 ↗ the actions that align to these

34:44 ↗ objectives specifically ensuring that

34:46 ↗ the actions align with the functional

34:48 ↗ plans namely the newly adopted Economic

34:50 ↗ Development action plan the Human

34:53 ↗ Services strategic plan and the ongoing

34:56 ↗ housing Continuum work

34:59 ↗ plan uh as you see on the screen there

35:02 ↗ are some recommended uh proposed items

35:05 ↗ increasing the recruitment of the

35:06 ↗ Outreach of the diverse business owners

35:07 ↗ and entrepreneurs exploring and

35:09 ↗ investing in housing in individuals and

35:11 ↗ families with greater needs uh 0 to 30%

35:14 ↗ Ami continue to implement the Ser Human

35:17 ↗ Services strategic plan reporting on the

35:19 ↗ progress towards key goals and

35:21 ↗ benchmarks the majority of our

35:24 ↗ group felt a few notable actions to be

35:26 ↗ added the update support retention and

35:28 ↗ recruiting of diverse businesses in

35:30 ↗ isqua as well as addresses the needs to

35:33 ↗ explore and invest in affordable housing

35:35 ↗ it also continues to implement trackable

35:37 ↗ goals and benchmarks these actionable

35:39 ↗ support and evolve our city to one where

35:42 ↗ one can work live and do business in

35:45 ↗ isqua I am too have the privilege of

35:47 ↗ working and living in isqua so I do know

35:49 ↗ what that's felt like so these actions

35:51 ↗ do support that thank you and with that

35:54 ↗ I'll turn it over to

35:58 ↗ oh B

36:08 ↗ Mobility hello my name is Katie hurt and

36:11 ↗ I originally moved to isqua in

36:14 ↗ 1994 and then went away for college law

36:17 ↗ school and to get married and decided to

36:20 ↗ come back here to start and raise my

36:22 ↗ family in

36:24 ↗ 2017 uh so myself as well as Julian are

36:29 ↗ uh the representatives to discuss

36:31 ↗ mobility and a special thanks to council

36:34 ↗ member hunt who also uh participated and

36:37 ↗ contributed to these as well um and I am

36:42 ↗ going to be going over the objectives

36:44 ↗ and then Julian will be going over the

36:47 ↗ actions so uh the original strategic

36:50 ↗ plan in 2019 had three objectives in the

36:53 ↗ mobility goal area we are recommending

36:57 ↗ uh retaining and reworking all three

36:59 ↗ objectives and adding a fourth objective

37:02 ↗ that's uh focused on the safety of the

37:05 ↗ mobility system these updated objectives

37:09 ↗ call for the city to focus on multimodal

37:12 ↗ improvements near-term connections and

37:15 ↗ efficiencies Light Rail area vision and

37:18 ↗ Community

37:19 ↗ engagement and Safety Systems approach

37:22 ↗ to Mobility including approaches such as

37:25 ↗ Vision zero

37:29 ↗ the four updated objectives are

37:32 ↗ prioritize the movement of people and

37:34 ↗ goods through improvements to the

37:37 ↗ multimodal

37:39 ↗ multimodal transportation Network

37:42 ↗ supporting goals of sustainability and

37:45 ↗ livability near-term connections uh

37:48 ↗ number two near-term connections and

37:50 ↗ efficiency in the mobility system are

37:52 ↗ completed number three the city has real

37:56 ↗ realized a safe systems approach such as

37:59 ↗ Vision zero and number four establish a

38:02 ↗ vision for isqua's Future Sound Transit

38:04 ↗ Light Rail station and surrounding

38:06 ↗ environments that prioritize Community

38:08 ↗ needs and inputs including the

38:11 ↗ infrastructure around that might be

38:13 ↗ needed around such a large station

38:16 ↗ coming here um so that they don't make a

38:20 ↗ decision about us without

38:22 ↗ us the first objective is

38:25 ↗ reworking uh of is a reworking of the

38:28 ↗ original first objective around the

38:30 ↗ establishment of a planned

38:32 ↗ transportation

38:33 ↗ system we feel that at this point the

38:36 ↗ most effective way to reduce congestion

38:39 ↗ is to support the non- single vehicle

38:42 ↗ travel to do that there needs to be a

38:44 ↗ focus on multimodal

38:47 ↗ Transportation the second objective

38:49 ↗ Remains the Same as 2019 this ongoing

38:52 ↗ work is necessary to ensure the

38:54 ↗ connectivity of the system which we

38:56 ↗ received feedback back from members of

38:59 ↗ staff and uh community members on the

39:02 ↗ third is the new objective that is

39:05 ↗ focused on Safe Systems we believe that

39:08 ↗ one of the greatest challenges to

39:09 ↗ multimodal Transit within

39:11 ↗ isqua uh Simply Having the pathways and

39:16 ↗ Hardware but the safety of but also the

39:19 ↗ safety of anyone walking riding and

39:21 ↗ rolling through isqua to have space to

39:24 ↗ share the road

39:25 ↗ effectively the final objective is an

39:28 ↗ update from 2019 objective that

39:30 ↗ incorporates the area around the

39:32 ↗ Envision Light Rail station into the

39:35 ↗ planning process for the upcoming 5

39:37 ↗ years and emphasizes the importance of

39:40 ↗ ongoing Community engagement even if

39:42 ↗ there are no significant updates an

39:45 ↗ update of no update is still an

39:49 ↗ update keeping the community engaged and

39:52 ↗ informed is key to keeping the focus on

39:55 ↗ this long-term goal and now I will hand

39:57 ↗ it over to Julian to introduce himself

40:00 ↗ and talk about the

40:04 ↗ actions great thank you um I'm Julian

40:06 ↗ I'm now the chair of the transportation

40:09 ↗ Advisory Board um and I've been on the

40:12 ↗ board since 2021 um and so falling into

40:17 ↗ some of the other areas um within these

40:20 ↗ goals um you know for the movement

40:23 ↗ aspect we really want to make sure that

40:26 ↗ um in ter terms of actions or tracking

40:29 ↗ the implementation of the mobility

40:31 ↗ master plan and so um you know on Tab I

40:34 ↗ I don't recall that we've received

40:36 ↗ annual Mobility report card um that

40:38 ↗ assesses very specifically our progress

40:41 ↗ on those um metrics and so um another

40:45 ↗ aspect of that it's not addressed here

40:48 ↗ but it's also addressed in the um

40:50 ↗ attachment that you received um level of

40:52 ↗ service um should be continually

40:55 ↗ reassessed uh in making sure that's in

40:57 ↗ line with the mobility master plan um we

41:01 ↗ need to make sure uh going on to the

41:03 ↗ Safe Systems approach U making sure that

41:05 ↗ we have a comprehensive Safety Action

41:07 ↗ Plan a lot of our plans related to

41:09 ↗ safety are uh go

41:12 ↗ into this um you know address one aspect

41:15 ↗ so we have like a neighborhood traffic

41:17 ↗ safety we have a traffic calming but

41:18 ↗ having a comprehensive one would be

41:20 ↗ really useful um we want to make sure

41:23 ↗ that we're actually achieving Vision

41:25 ↗ zero and or another safe system systems

41:27 ↗ approach and making sure that we're

41:29 ↗ addressing our engineering standards um

41:31 ↗ to reflect best practices um in that

41:34 ↗ lens um and another one for that is like

41:38 ↗ fostering Collective advocacy to support

41:41 ↗ non- Drive Alone um uh means of travel

41:45 ↗ and so um and then for um for the light

41:49 ↗ rail addressing Light Rail we want to

41:51 ↗ make sure that the our we conducting and

41:54 ↗ invting a comprehensive analysis of all

41:56 ↗ potential station locations with the

41:58 ↗ vision this is a really strong reworking

42:01 ↗ of what was there previously and so much

42:04 ↗ more specific on that and it's also

42:06 ↗ making sure that our collaboration is a

42:07 ↗ very active collaboration with Sound

42:09 ↗ Transit um in terms of inte integrating

42:12 ↗ um integrating City plans and land use

42:15 ↗ and all that issues um and we want to

42:18 ↗ make sure that we're um continuing an

42:20 ↗ increasing engagement with Sound Transit

42:22 ↗ was that and the community namely um I'm

42:26 ↗ calling out the

42:28 ↗ one year uh once per year Town Hall

42:31 ↗ format that we'd like um to have happen

42:34 ↗ uh leading up to the planning process um

42:38 ↗ and so that's basically everything and

42:40 ↗ also wanted to call out that um that we

42:43 ↗ are really making sure that we're on

42:45 ↗ staying on the edge Leading Edge of um

42:48 ↗ technological improvements in

42:49 ↗ transportation and so that's electrical

42:51 ↗ vehicle charging stations and uh

42:54 ↗ Metroflex and other similar micro

42:56 ↗ Transit and so

42:59 ↗ yeah we'll pass it pass it off to

43:11 ↗ environmental hello everyone my name is

43:13 ↗ Kelly Jen and I am I've lived in isqua

43:16 ↗ for the last four years um I'm not on

43:18 ↗ any City commissions but I am the

43:20 ↗ President of the isqua Alps Trails Club

43:22 ↗ so we are you know listed on here number

43:25 ↗ two community members is active partner

43:27 ↗ yeah um and so I think I can speak for

43:30 ↗ myself and probably a lot of you when I

43:33 ↗ say that the reason why I chose to live

43:34 ↗ here in isqua is because of the natural

43:36 ↗ environment access to you know

43:38 ↗ worldclass Trails for running mountain

43:39 ↗ biking hiking walking around and I think

43:42 ↗ um that's kind of the foundation for

43:44 ↗ what makes our city special um and so um

43:48 ↗ environmental stewardship has been an

43:50 ↗ important um value for our community uh

43:52 ↗ since the 2019 strategic plan and

43:55 ↗ obviously long before that um so in

43:57 ↗ terms of the objectives for um

44:00 ↗ 2024 um we are essentially reworking the

44:04 ↗ objectives that were present in the

44:05 ↗ previous version of the plan but placing

44:07 ↗ a much bigger focus on climate action

44:10 ↗ one thing to note um which I just

44:12 ↗ realized recently is that this what

44:15 ↗ falls under the umbrella of

44:16 ↗ environmental stewardship is essentially

44:18 ↗ what's going to be you know in the work

44:20 ↗ plans for the parks and um

44:24 ↗ sustainability departments and so

44:25 ↗ there's a lot of things related to

44:26 ↗ climate change we talked about here like

44:28 ↗ climate resilience you know concerns

44:30 ↗ about um insurance premiums for places

44:33 ↗ that are on the Wildland Urban interface

44:35 ↗ those don't neatly fall under the um

44:38 ↗ umbrella of those departments and so

44:39 ↗ they weren't included in our final plan

44:41 ↗ here

44:43 ↗ um great so the updated objectives so um

44:47 ↗ I'll just talk through some of the major

44:49 ↗ changes here um so number one we added

44:52 ↗ climate action as something that isqua

44:55 ↗ is recognized as a regional leader for

44:57 ↗ um the second objective we kept the same

44:59 ↗ um and then the third one um there was a

45:02 ↗ focus on conservation and land

45:03 ↗ acquisition in the previous plan but

45:06 ↗ that one previously focused more on you

45:07 ↗ know benefits to community members

45:09 ↗ whereas now it's more focused on habitat

45:11 ↗ and um considering the potential impacts

45:13 ↗ of climate change um and I think you

45:15 ↗ know this is important especially

45:17 ↗ considering that um the you know land

45:20 ↗ Acquisitions now we're considering like

45:22 ↗ what's the carbon sequestration value of

45:24 ↗ the forests and that's something that is

45:26 ↗ really you know needs to be at the

45:27 ↗ Forefront when we're considering new

45:28 ↗ conservation

45:30 ↗ decisions um great so um here are the

45:34 ↗ proposed actions and uh I guess updates

45:38 ↗ to the proposed actions so this one here

45:40 ↗ it's kind of you know figuring out where

45:41 ↗ the city actually has leverage to make

45:44 ↗ an impact right you know city of isqua

45:46 ↗ does not have the funding to install

45:48 ↗ heat pumps in everyone's homes but what

45:51 ↗ they can do is promote city-led projects

45:53 ↗ to help Inspire Community Action for

45:55 ↗ example you know recently there was the

45:57 ↗ imagin housing heat project where

45:58 ↗ actually Jay Insley showed up and posted

46:00 ↗ about it on his Instagram prime example

46:02 ↗ of that which was awesome um and then

46:04 ↗ also you know there's all these

46:06 ↗ functional plans like the it's called

46:08 ↗ climate action plan and the parks plan

46:10 ↗ which we're working on providing public

46:12 ↗ comment on now um which are really you

46:15 ↗ know the meat and potatoes or a climate

46:18 ↗ friendly vegetarian version of that um

46:23 ↗ to um ensure that you know we're

46:25 ↗ actually taking the actions to get get

46:27 ↗ things

46:27 ↗ done um and then um the last item here

46:33 ↗ is you know about the tree canopy and

46:35 ↗ improving ecosystem Health on both uh

46:38 ↗ public and private lands kind of calling

46:39 ↗ out you know the climate action plan

46:41 ↗ Park system plan and urban Forest

46:42 ↗ management plan and figuring out you

46:43 ↗ know what are things we can do to

46:45 ↗ encourage land owners to increase tree

46:47 ↗ canopy on their private properties um

46:49 ↗ and you know focus on where the um City

46:52 ↗ can really make an impact so um yeah and

46:56 ↗ I think we saved The Best For Last which

46:58 ↗ is City leadership and

47:08 ↗ services hello I'm Victor we met

47:12 ↗ um I'm here to cover the last one uh but

47:16 ↗ not least of uh the go areas which is

47:19 ↗ City leadership and services um the

47:22 ↗ original 2019 strategic plan had two

47:25 ↗ objectives uh within this uh goal area

47:28 ↗ in 2021 something happened I forget and

47:31 ↗ we added a third objective related to

47:33 ↗ Public Safety um however that objective

47:36 ↗ did not have any actions um associated

47:39 ↗ with it we are now recommending

47:41 ↗ retaining and reworking all the three

47:43 ↗ other object all the three of this

47:45 ↗ object sorry and then um those three

47:49 ↗ objectives charge the city to focus on

47:51 ↗ fostering inclusive Civic engagement

47:53 ↗ providing efficient effective and

47:55 ↗ Equitable Services and providing

47:57 ↗ comprehensive Public Safety the fourth

48:00 ↗ new objective is related to the city's

48:01 ↗ emergency preparedness

48:04 ↗ response uh preparedness and

48:10 ↗ response now as proposed updated

48:13 ↗ objectives uh specifically we're

48:15 ↗ recommending the following um in the

48:18 ↗ city leaderships and services goal um in

48:21 ↗ the first one we seek to drive a

48:24 ↗ community engagement across or diverse

48:26 ↗ community while this objective aligns

48:28 ↗ with the 2019 goal of V vared Civic

48:32 ↗ engagement the updated Focus explicitly

48:34 ↗ targets engagement across demographic

48:37 ↗ groups as our city becomes more

48:40 ↗ ethnically linguistically and racially

48:42 ↗ diverse our efforts must strive to

48:45 ↗ incorporate the perspective of of the

48:47 ↗ perspective of our entire Community as

48:50 ↗ well on the second objective mirror

48:52 ↗ which mirrors the 2019 plan by

48:54 ↗ emphasizing efficiency and effectiveness

48:56 ↗ in Services it now also includes Equity

49:00 ↗ as a third value this addition

49:02 ↗ highlights the importance of addressing

49:04 ↗ our cities growing diversity in a key

49:06 ↗ step in and is a key step in

49:09 ↗ operationalizing equity within the

49:12 ↗ Strategic

49:13 ↗ plan um the third objective around

49:17 ↗ Public Safety Remains the Same but is

49:18 ↗ crucial to implement measures and

49:20 ↗ allocate Resources with consideration of

49:22 ↗ our community's

49:23 ↗ diversity Public Safety is not one siiz

49:26 ↗ fits all all and the city needs to

49:28 ↗ recognize and address this by adopting

49:30 ↗ tailored approaches that effectively

49:32 ↗ support all community members um that um

49:36 ↗ live in

49:38 ↗ Isel the last objective uh the fourth

49:42 ↗ and newest objective focuses on

49:43 ↗ emergency preparedness response and

49:45 ↗ management the need to incorporate this

49:47 ↗ into the plan was evidently evident

49:49 ↗ early in our discussions as a task force

49:52 ↗ while elements of emerging prepares and

49:54 ↗ resilience are woman throughout other go

49:56 ↗ areas we believe it belongs with City

49:58 ↗ leadership and services increasingly dry

50:00 ↗ Summers and wet Winters highlight the

50:03 ↗ necessity for the city to plan for

50:04 ↗ future emergencies the city's commitment

50:07 ↗ to understanding local risk preparing

50:09 ↗ for complex challenges and ensuring

50:11 ↗ Community resilien is critical

50:13 ↗ safeguarding residents before during and

50:15 ↗ after

50:17 ↗ emergencies by taking proactive measures

50:19 ↗ educating the community and continuously

50:21 ↗ improving strategies the city aims to

50:22 ↗ create a resilient and well-prepared

50:24 ↗ community

50:28 ↗ that said I now hand it off to our task

50:32 ↗ force chair to close out with the

50:34 ↗ proposed

50:37 ↗ actions yes and so I am wrapping up the

50:40 ↗ goal area discussion and sharing out

50:43 ↗ some of the new proposed actions in City

50:47 ↗ leadership and services and um if you

50:51 ↗ reflect on the objectives that Victor

50:53 ↗ just shared the the first two are really

50:56 ↗ about how the city does its work and so

51:00 ↗ we are hopeful that the how objectives

51:03 ↗ get passed into how the city does its

51:05 ↗ work throughout the goal areas and then

51:09 ↗ the last uh two objectives are about

51:12 ↗ some um other functional areas that the

51:15 ↗ city um manages so

51:19 ↗ um the so the first two new objectives

51:23 ↗ that I'm going to share here the on the

51:25 ↗ first the first two bullet points are

51:27 ↗ really about how we are uh imagining

51:31 ↗ operationalizing Equity um which was one

51:34 ↗ of the pl guiding principles and so the

51:37 ↗ first um action is cultural and

51:40 ↗ Community Liaisons to engage and reach

51:43 ↗ isqua's diverse

51:45 ↗ communities

51:46 ↗ um when we look in spaces where there's

51:50 ↗ public comment in other you know town

51:53 ↗ halls and other forums uh the f who

51:56 ↗ engage in those meetings are typically

51:58 ↗ the folks who have historically engaged

52:01 ↗ in those meetings and in public comment

52:03 ↗ and so we're proposing a way to um it's

52:06 ↗ aligned with the community engagement

52:08 ↗ toolkit that was developed by the city

52:11 ↗ but really putting that into practice

52:13 ↗ and meeting people where they're at and

52:14 ↗ going out to communities and not asking

52:17 ↗ everyone to come to City spaces so

52:20 ↗ that's really the the spirit of the

52:22 ↗ first action uh the second action is to

52:25 ↗ explore opportunities to shift to shift

52:27 ↗ to remote and virtual Service

52:30 ↗ delivery uh it's been something I feel

52:33 ↗ for a while that this has been a slow

52:35 ↗ shift to make but with the pandemic we

52:37 ↗ move there and we move there really fast

52:40 ↗ and I think there's a lot of benefit uh

52:43 ↗ in terms of access for community members

52:45 ↗ who may not may not have had access for

52:49 ↗ uh ability or disability or language and

52:51 ↗ so having uh multiple modes to uh

52:54 ↗ provide city services is a just a a

52:58 ↗ universal uh goal that everyone can

53:01 ↗ benefit from and then um the third new

53:05 ↗ action we're proposing there's there's a

53:07 ↗ lot of other ones so these are just some

53:09 ↗ of the ones we're highlighting but this

53:11 ↗ falls into that Public public and

53:13 ↗ Community safety objective area and it's

53:16 ↗ really about um ex expanding funding and

53:19 ↗ support for Community port and similar

53:22 ↗ diversion programs um this will benefit

53:26 ↗ um

53:27 ↗ those who have been impacted by the

53:29 ↗ criminal legal system and help uh put

53:31 ↗ folks on a pathway out of a lifetime of

53:37 ↗ um uh being in the system so it's been

53:41 ↗ um something we propose the city also

53:43 ↗ continues to expand and then the fourth

53:47 ↗ um action listed here is one related to

53:50 ↗ that new objective around emergency

53:53 ↗ preparedness um resilience um and so

53:57 ↗ it's really preparing staff for

53:59 ↗ emergency response and Recovery through

54:01 ↗ regular staff trainings so uh we have a

54:05 ↗ whole host of Staff who are ready to

54:08 ↗ respond as emergencies arise and before

54:11 ↗ I pass it back over to Dale to share

54:14 ↗ some proposed next steps I did also want

54:16 ↗ to Echo my deep appreciation and

54:18 ↗ gratitude to my fellow task force

54:21 ↗ members including some who are on the

54:23 ↗ council as well as the city staff who uh

54:27 ↗ supported this work and were so willing

54:29 ↗ to take their extra time in the evenings

54:32 ↗ and especially Dale marp who was

54:35 ↗ impeccably prepared and really uh

54:37 ↗ coached us through a lot of this uh

54:40 ↗ difficult thinking and with that than

54:43 ↗ you

54:48 ↗ Dale hello city council the boring one

54:52 ↗ is back uh Dale Mary crimp assistant of

54:54 ↗ the city administrator so so what comes

54:56 ↗ next after all of that incredible

54:59 ↗ information I have just a short uh bit

55:01 ↗ of

55:02 ↗ additional follow on so the

55:05 ↗ administration is recommending a

55:07 ↗ proposed path as was as was alluded to

55:09 ↗ by more than one presenter this was just

55:12 ↗ the first phase of this update work um

55:15 ↗ and so the the administration is

55:16 ↗ proposing actions through the third and

55:19 ↗ the fourth quarter of this year

55:21 ↗ specifically uh the first action is a

55:24 ↗ Administration and City staff review

55:27 ↗ while staff have had the opportunity to

55:30 ↗ provide feedback on the draft

55:31 ↗ recommendations to support the task

55:34 ↗ members as they finalized their

55:36 ↗ recommendations that was really the

55:38 ↗ focus of their work at the time it was

55:40 ↗ really supporting the task force and

55:42 ↗ getting their recommendations finalized

55:44 ↗ not necessarily putting on that lens of

55:47 ↗ feasibility alignment to City plans um

55:51 ↗ and and what I would even say you saw

55:52 ↗ some generalized recommendations such as

55:55 ↗ continue to implement the Human Services

55:57 ↗ strategic plan a Next Step would be to

55:59 ↗ get more specific about exactly what

56:02 ↗ actions within the human services

56:03 ↗ strategic plan or the urban Forest Urban

56:06 ↗ Forest management plan would we want to

56:08 ↗ commit to completing in the next 5 years

56:11 ↗ so that would be the first uh step here

56:13 ↗ coming up in July and

56:17 ↗ August then um at the towards the tail

56:20 ↗ end of Q3 and and somewhat similar to um

56:25 ↗ the CIP process uh this most recent one

56:28 ↗ where boards and commission members were

56:30 ↗ invited to come together to provide

56:32 ↗ input and feedback we'd like to invite

56:35 ↗ board and commission members to come

56:37 ↗ together to provide additional input and

56:39 ↗ feedback after this this staff um draft

56:43 ↗ emerges towards the middle of Q3 from

56:47 ↗ there we'd like to seek additional uh

56:50 ↗ Community input likely through some open

56:53 ↗ houses both inperson and hybrid I think

56:55 ↗ as you heard just now the importance of

56:58 ↗ accessibility to give feedback so not

57:00 ↗ necessarily requiring people to come in

57:02 ↗ person but providing a way for people to

57:04 ↗ engage if they can't necessarily leave

57:05 ↗ their homes and then uh a planned return

57:08 ↗ to city council uh in Q4 with a

57:11 ↗ finalized draft

57:14 ↗ plan so the the recommendation um from

57:18 ↗ the administration is that the city

57:19 ↗ council agree to this proposed path for

57:21 ↗ the Strategic Plan update um staff

57:24 ↗ review and input board and commission

57:26 ↗ review and input some further Community

57:28 ↗ feedback and then a return to council

57:30 ↗ with a final updated plan in

57:33 ↗ Q4 as a reminder the direction needed

57:36 ↗ for this evening um first and foremost

57:38 ↗ feedback on these incredible uh

57:40 ↗ recommendations you just heard from our

57:42 ↗ task force and um any input or

57:45 ↗ recommendation about the proposed path

57:47 ↗ to move forward with the

57:51 ↗ update and that is where I'll leave it

57:57 ↗ excellent so we start with

58:00 ↗ questions and then we'll get any public

58:04 ↗ comment and a whole lot of feedback

58:07 ↗ starting with Deputy council president D

58:10 ↗ Michelle and we'll

58:13 ↗ go thank you so much this was a great

58:16 ↗ presentation and thanks to everybody for

58:18 ↗ all the hard work and uh you've produced

58:20 ↗ a an outstanding document so uh I only I

58:24 ↗ had one question I to was among the

58:27 ↗ group that was thrilled to see that

58:28 ↗ infrastructure was the first thing on

58:30 ↗ the list so so uh um the two potential

58:35 ↗ actions uh develop and Implement an

58:37 ↗ organization-wide asset management

58:39 ↗ policy and financial plan Hallelujah

58:42 ↗ that's fantastic and the second one I

58:44 ↗ needed a little bit more explanation

58:46 ↗ plan for and budget operations and

58:48 ↗ maintenance costs with all new capital

58:51 ↗ operated by the city um can you clarify

58:55 ↗ the a little bit for me in my mind I'm

58:57 ↗ reading that whenever we embark on

59:01 ↗ developing New Capital that we would

59:03 ↗ also develop a long range budget and

59:06 ↗ maintenance plan to go with that

59:08 ↗ proposal is that is that basically what

59:10 ↗ that that action is

59:12 ↗ saying I'm seeing naughty heads

59:17 ↗ so

59:22 ↗ TJ yeah yes I'm I'm

59:26 ↗ you know the thing about Dale is amazing

59:29 ↗ uh I'm going to go a little off topic

59:31 ↗ here is that PE you know my wife would

59:32 ↗ say oh did you get to CH chat with too

59:35 ↗ or anybody else when we'd have our

59:37 ↗ meetings she kept us so busy that there

59:40 ↗ was no chance to socialize get to know

59:43 ↗ your fellow Council group task force

59:46 ↗ members because we were on task and very

59:49 ↗ busy but uh the idea there and again we

59:52 ↗ were uh uh talking uh to City staff and

59:55 ↗ theide idea about just like if you buy a

59:58 ↗ car buy a house you know it's one thing

1:00:01 ↗ to have the sunk cost of uh saying oh I

1:00:04 ↗ just bought something wow that's

1:00:06 ↗ exciting but then you have to think the

1:00:09 ↗ whole cost of taking care of it updating

1:00:12 ↗ it maintaining it making sure that it

1:00:14 ↗ gets refreshed and is still operating

1:00:17 ↗ the way it was when you had originally

1:00:19 ↗ envisioned um buying that uh putting

1:00:23 ↗ that new Road in for instance that new

1:00:25 ↗ stre using a new Surface that you

1:00:27 ↗ haven't used before uh so on and so

1:00:29 ↗ forth so that was the thought process

1:00:31 ↗ behind that statement yeah really really

1:00:34 ↗ excellent I I love that um I'm wondering

1:00:37 ↗ for people who are not familiar with

1:00:39 ↗ financial uh Concepts or uh

1:00:42 ↗ infrastructure kind it might maybe a

1:00:45 ↗ little bit of clarifying language on

1:00:46 ↗ that particular one but um and that's

1:00:49 ↗ the only question I have I mean really

1:00:51 ↗ this is a well-written very very clear

1:00:54 ↗ and and excellent document I have a lot

1:00:56 ↗ of comments but my question was that one

1:00:59 ↗ thank you uh council member Hall

1:01:01 ↗ followed by council member hunt thank

1:01:03 ↗ you uh ditto remarkable work um everyone

1:01:05 ↗ thank you so much I have one question on

1:01:06 ↗ the public safety section and two on

1:01:08 ↗ growth and development so um and the

1:01:11 ↗ first one is just clarifying so for

1:01:13 ↗ Public

1:01:14 ↗ Safety uh in the marked up version and

1:01:17 ↗ kind of the proposed final version I'm

1:01:20 ↗ seeing different objectives for the

1:01:23 ↗ public safety part so the city provides

1:01:25 ↗ efficient effective and Equitable

1:01:26 ↗ Services to the community period in the

1:01:29 ↗ final one but then in the marked up one

1:01:31 ↗ it goes on and says and ensures the

1:01:33 ↗ resilience of his residence before

1:01:35 ↗ during and following an

1:01:37 ↗ emergency um wait no wrong

1:01:39 ↗ one something tells me that was a

1:01:42 ↗ Microsoft Word uh no that is user air

1:01:46 ↗ reading the wrong objective so so forget

1:01:48 ↗ that okay I was going to I was going to

1:01:50 ↗ blame Microsoft that one all of you

1:01:51 ↗ forget I said anything about that okay

1:01:53 ↗ moving on to growth in development then

1:01:56 ↗ um in this section I just noticed that

1:02:00 ↗ it's there seemed to be some that said

1:02:03 ↗ identify barriers identify how to and

1:02:05 ↗ others that were identify and address

1:02:07 ↗ and identify and address and I was

1:02:08 ↗ wondering if that was intentional if

1:02:10 ↗ there's a conversation about well we

1:02:12 ↗ want to just kind of identify what

1:02:14 ↗ barriers exist but in these goals we

1:02:15 ↗ feel like they're may be more doable so

1:02:17 ↗ we identify and address was that

1:02:19 ↗ intentional was there a conversation

1:02:22 ↗ around I'm going to invite Jamie to come

1:02:24 ↗ back up

1:02:30 ↗ thank you for the question I think the

1:02:32 ↗ short answer is as I alluded to the the

1:02:34 ↗ level of word smithing we got to on this

1:02:36 ↗ is very low so I wouldn't read too much

1:02:38 ↗ into what we did like what what you're

1:02:41 ↗ referring to there um because yeah we we

1:02:44 ↗ were mostly focused on thematic elements

1:02:47 ↗ rather than

1:02:49 ↗ language good yeah that might be an

1:02:51 ↗ opportunity during staff review to look

1:02:54 ↗ um the other growth and development

1:02:57 ↗ section or thing that I was interested

1:02:58 ↗ in was there's a goal around monitoring

1:03:03 ↗ growth Target um and I was wondering and

1:03:07 ↗ maybe this is a question for you Dale

1:03:08 ↗ anyone who has thoughts too would be

1:03:10 ↗ good if there is value

1:03:13 ↗ in having policy around how we set those

1:03:16 ↗ goals too because I know in a large part

1:03:18 ↗ we're very involved in where that number

1:03:20 ↗ actually ends up and so do we want to

1:03:22 ↗ have more of an active role in terms of

1:03:25 ↗ defining the policy around how we end up

1:03:27 ↗ with the number before then

1:03:29 ↗ monitoring kind of progress any thoughts

1:03:32 ↗ anyone that's a great question I've made

1:03:35 ↗ a note of it don't know if anyone else

1:03:37 ↗ here has a thought I can speak to that

1:03:40 ↗ since I was in that section um this is a

1:03:43 ↗ five-year plan and so we won't be

1:03:46 ↗ influencing our next set of growth

1:03:48 ↗ targets until after that 5-year period

1:03:52 ↗ And so while that was something in the

1:03:55 ↗ previous plan we struck that and instead

1:03:59 ↗ replaced it with the idea of continue to

1:04:00 ↗ Monitor and address our progress toward

1:04:05 ↗ that thank you council president council

1:04:07 ↗ member

1:04:08 ↗ hunt right thank you great work and

1:04:10 ↗ thank you for the presentations I had uh

1:04:13 ↗ two questions the first one was on City

1:04:15 ↗ leadership and services it was mentioned

1:04:18 ↗ um that cultural and Community Liaisons

1:04:21 ↗ would be uh an important part of making

1:04:24 ↗ sure that we have diverse representation

1:04:25 ↗ a and decision making was also

1:04:27 ↗ referenced that that has been a part of

1:04:29 ↗ our toolkit for for a while and so I

1:04:32 ↗ wondered if in your discussions you had

1:04:35 ↗ thoughts or recommendations um for for

1:04:38 ↗ us to actually Implement that because it

1:04:40 ↗ has been part of our plan but I I agree

1:04:43 ↗ that it's important to actually enact

1:04:44 ↗ that over the next years as we try to

1:04:47 ↗ enact our strategic

1:04:49 ↗ plan yeah thanks for that question um I

1:04:53 ↗ know so I I know about the community

1:04:56 ↗ engagement toolkit from past

1:04:58 ↗ presentations and discussion you know

1:05:00 ↗ with the equity board and so I know it's

1:05:02 ↗ um I see almost like two paths around

1:05:08 ↗ Community engagement so there's uh

1:05:11 ↗ engagement that's often

1:05:13 ↗ uh it well it it is or should be a

1:05:16 ↗ critical part of a planning process and

1:05:18 ↗ then ongoing feedback and so um I think

1:05:23 ↗ as part of a planning process uh there

1:05:26 ↗ might be a broader group of Staff

1:05:29 ↗ engaging in the community engagement

1:05:31 ↗ process and so I feel like the toolkit

1:05:33 ↗ in those contexts uh the toolkit could

1:05:36 ↗ be invaluable to support staff who may

1:05:39 ↗ not be uh may not have as much expertise

1:05:43 ↗ in community engagement but I think the

1:05:46 ↗ Liaisons would be more of a full-time

1:05:48 ↗ role uh to build relationships with

1:05:52 ↗ specific communities you know based on

1:05:54 ↗ populations and demographics of priority

1:05:57 ↗ and can help

1:05:59 ↗ enable uh enhanced Community engagement

1:06:02 ↗ to get to that higher level of

1:06:04 ↗ participation for like the comprehensive

1:06:06 ↗ planning and things

1:06:10 ↗ like right um I remember this

1:06:13 ↗ conversation pretty vividly um because

1:06:16 ↗ we discussed that we often ask the city

1:06:19 ↗ often asks the community to come and

1:06:22 ↗ engage in our setting in this setting

1:06:26 ↗ and the commissions come give us

1:06:28 ↗ comments but there's no proactive reach

1:06:30 ↗ out the other way around elas would be

1:06:35 ↗ you know in instructed or going out to

1:06:38 ↗ the different communities that have

1:06:41 ↗ sometimes built their own um you know uh

1:06:46 ↗ programs um in in in the Hispanic

1:06:49 ↗ Community or the Salvation Community

1:06:51 ↗ they build their own programs and they

1:06:53 ↗ keep to themselves how about the city

1:06:55 ↗ reach and says like hey we know you

1:06:57 ↗ exist we love what you're doing we want

1:07:00 ↗ to be a part of it hey and also come and

1:07:03 ↗ join us and build the relationship in a

1:07:06 ↗ two-way um stre and not just waiting for

1:07:10 ↗ them to come and engage us that was the

1:07:13 ↗ idea behind

1:07:16 ↗ that thank you uh oh you have one more

1:07:20 ↗ before going to council member joil go

1:07:21 ↗ ahead great thank you and thank you for

1:07:24 ↗ those answers that really helps

1:07:26 ↗ um my my second question was on the

1:07:28 ↗ environment section it was mentioned

1:07:30 ↗ that insurance premiums for the Wildland

1:07:32 ↗ Urban interface uh didn't really fall

1:07:35 ↗ into a section and I wonder if you could

1:07:38 ↗ talk a little bit more about that

1:07:39 ↗ conversation and and sort of your

1:07:41 ↗ thoughts on I I do think that that is

1:07:43 ↗ going to be a something we have to

1:07:44 ↗ address in a strategic way over the next

1:07:47 ↗ five years um the and we're we're

1:07:50 ↗ working on emergency planning and things

1:07:51 ↗ like that and so I wondered if you could

1:07:53 ↗ expand on that conversation and and how

1:07:56 ↗ we might address it uh given that it

1:07:58 ↗ does impact multiple parts of our plan

1:08:01 ↗ here yeah so I think this um kind of

1:08:04 ↗ came up because one of the task force

1:08:05 ↗ members actually you know lives on

1:08:07 ↗ squawk mountain in an area where you

1:08:09 ↗ know some of his neighbors are seeing

1:08:11 ↗ those impacts to their insurance

1:08:13 ↗ premiums I think I mean my opinion which

1:08:17 ↗ maybe you know is not necessarily the

1:08:18 ↗ opinion of everyone else I think that

1:08:19 ↗ would probably fall more under the kind

1:08:22 ↗ of like City leadership and services as

1:08:25 ↗ or infrastructure something like that

1:08:27 ↗ you know coming up with like hey here's

1:08:28 ↗ like best practices for um uh you

1:08:33 ↗ know creating a defensible Zone around

1:08:36 ↗ your property like you know if you go to

1:08:37 ↗ California especially in Tahoe there's

1:08:39 ↗ like signs everywhere like oh you know

1:08:41 ↗ do do these things and I think that

1:08:43 ↗ might be where it falls under it's more

1:08:44 ↗ like infrastructure rather than like

1:08:46 ↗ sustainability per se curious if you

1:08:48 ↗ have any other thoughts yeah um no we

1:08:51 ↗ actually talked about this topic

1:08:53 ↗ extensively in our group and this was

1:08:55 ↗ similar to housing affordability

1:08:56 ↗ something that was ultimately decided

1:08:58 ↗ lived in City leadership but the impacts

1:09:01 ↗ of climate change that one being one

1:09:04 ↗ that I think was particular I mean

1:09:06 ↗ flooding increased flooding risk um

1:09:09 ↗ those were things that we really

1:09:11 ↗ advocated to be highlighted within the

1:09:13 ↗ emergency preparedness um section But

1:09:16 ↗ ultimately it was determined that while

1:09:18 ↗ these are driven by climate there's

1:09:21 ↗ there's climate aspects to to the

1:09:23 ↗ increased risk um it didn't land in that

1:09:25 ↗ objective but that was a active uh

1:09:29 ↗ active conversation we had that I think

1:09:31 ↗ ultimately I think it's a little it's

1:09:33 ↗ not as I think uh as direct as as some

1:09:37 ↗ of the the wording that we had come up

1:09:38 ↗ with previously but the emergency

1:09:40 ↗ preparedness section where

1:09:43 ↗ that determined

1:09:45 ↗ it okay so quick followup so would would

1:09:49 ↗ the suggestion be that we as Council

1:09:52 ↗ consider including that but in a

1:09:54 ↗ different section that environment which

1:09:56 ↗ was the section you were working on so

1:09:57 ↗ it's something that came up in your

1:09:58 ↗ conversations it is something that

1:10:00 ↗ belongs in the Strategic plan but wasn't

1:10:02 ↗ in that section yeah correct this was

1:10:05 ↗ one of those as PR as she alluded to

1:10:08 ↗ there was topics that didn't don't fit

1:10:10 ↗ into nice boxes and so this was one of

1:10:12 ↗ them um so it was something that we felt

1:10:14 ↗ was important and I think the way you

1:10:15 ↗ worded it was perfect that we thought it

1:10:18 ↗ was an important topic I think uh other

1:10:21 ↗ other board or other task force members

1:10:22 ↗ would agree um but it wasn't within

1:10:25 ↗ environment necessarily that that uh

1:10:28 ↗ would fit the

1:10:30 ↗ best great thank

1:10:32 ↗ you council member Joe thank you uh

1:10:35 ↗ first a question for you Dale um just so

1:10:38 ↗ I can kind of get the pieces straight

1:10:41 ↗ we're going through a comprehensive plan

1:10:44 ↗ process for 2024 through

1:10:47 ↗ 2044 and that process has been going on

1:10:50 ↗ since June how does this strategic plan

1:10:53 ↗ fit into that does it drive that problem

1:10:55 ↗ this at all or is it a company on a

1:10:56 ↗ parallel path can you give a little

1:10:58 ↗ clarification I think we've all um had

1:11:01 ↗ the incredible opportunity to see uh

1:11:03 ↗ Steven padua's visual around where

1:11:06 ↗ ideally the Strategic plan would fit I

1:11:08 ↗ there Smiles because I think you've

1:11:09 ↗ probably seen it many times I wish I had

1:11:11 ↗ it on my slides tonight um there's sort

1:11:14 ↗ of yes the funnel as council member Hall

1:11:17 ↗ just uh for those not seeing on the

1:11:19 ↗ screen thought he was doing the YMCA

1:11:21 ↗ thing sorry yes it could also be that

1:11:24 ↗ IDE I mean I think we know the

1:11:26 ↗ comprehensive plan is is called the

1:11:27 ↗ comprehensive plan for a reason it is

1:11:29 ↗ the the plan that guides all of our

1:11:31 ↗ planning in the way that we currently

1:11:34 ↗ have our plan structured we have this

1:11:36 ↗ you know 20 plus year document and then

1:11:38 ↗ we have a number of functional plans

1:11:39 ↗ throughout the city some of them I would

1:11:42 ↗ say I would say on average are seven to

1:11:44 ↗ again 20 years in their scope the

1:11:47 ↗ Strategic plan is really intended to be

1:11:49 ↗ um both a a document that has am

1:11:53 ↗ Ambitions and provides a North star star

1:11:56 ↗ but that really focuses our work on the

1:11:59 ↗ next 5 years so in some ways I would say

1:12:03 ↗ you've got functional plans feeding into

1:12:05 ↗ the Strategic plan which then below that

1:12:07 ↗ hopefully feeds into some of our shorter

1:12:10 ↗ term plans our funding plans um but

1:12:12 ↗ again then we have rcip that sits at a

1:12:14 ↗ slightly kind of almost alongside that

1:12:17 ↗ it is not a neat uh nesting doll I think

1:12:20 ↗ that is a The Challenge and and we put

1:12:22 ↗ that challenge to this group council

1:12:23 ↗ member Joe to to really to scope actions

1:12:26 ↗ that were more near term more actions we

1:12:29 ↗ expect that could be achieved in the

1:12:31 ↗ next 5 years uh knowing that that was

1:12:34 ↗ one of

1:12:36 ↗ the I don't want to call it a challenge

1:12:38 ↗ or a flaw but one of the the

1:12:40 ↗ characteristics of the original plan is

1:12:42 ↗ that we had some really long-term really

1:12:45 ↗ big actions that were not necessarily

1:12:47 ↗ achievable in 5 years and some that were

1:12:49 ↗ very direct and achievable so that's

1:12:52 ↗ that's without being able to have um

1:12:55 ↗ Steven's visual that's the way that

1:12:57 ↗ we've been functioning as a task force

1:12:59 ↗ no thank you that that helps uh to say

1:13:02 ↗ it's an not an es doll that fits

1:13:03 ↗ anywhere I think is probably the most uh

1:13:06 ↗ pertinent way to think about it my next

1:13:09 ↗ question concerns the proposed updates

1:13:11 ↗ to growth and development um

1:13:13 ↗ particularly the balance of jobs and

1:13:15 ↗ housing so number two on page 15 of your

1:13:19 ↗ presentation land plans are updated

1:13:21 ↗ regularly implemented effectively with

1:13:23 ↗ regular monitoring Community input and

1:13:25 ↗ forward-looking adjustments to improve

1:13:28 ↗ livability and the balance of jobs and

1:13:30 ↗ housing and so my question here goes

1:13:34 ↗ back to the balance of jobs and housing

1:13:37 ↗ um some communities like to have one job

1:13:40 ↗ for every house so that people are going

1:13:42 ↗ to be able to stand the community and

1:13:43 ↗ live in the community was there any

1:13:45 ↗ discussion of the what the balance that

1:13:48 ↗ we should be driving toward um was there

1:13:51 ↗ any conversation in this committee about

1:13:53 ↗ a task force about what that balance

1:13:55 ↗ might be ideally there was and I

1:13:58 ↗ actually think probably members of two

1:14:00 ↗ different groups may have thoughts to

1:14:01 ↗ share on that so I know social and

1:14:03 ↗ economic Vitality also discussed that

1:14:05 ↗ and I would invite growth and

1:14:07 ↗ development back up as

1:14:17 ↗ well um at least in our group um there

1:14:20 ↗ wasn't discussion of absolute balance I

1:14:23 ↗ think and Victor may hit on as well I

1:14:25 ↗ think it was

1:14:27 ↗ encouraging more crossover like more

1:14:30 ↗ people that are working in isqua being

1:14:31 ↗ able to live in isqua was really more

1:14:33 ↗ where our conversation was focused but

1:14:35 ↗ we didn't we weren't making statements

1:14:37 ↗ about the the relative balance between

1:14:40 ↗ jobs and housing uh in our group I think

1:14:42 ↗ there were some comments around ensuring

1:14:44 ↗ that um that housing doesn't take over

1:14:47 ↗ all other uses that there's there isn't

1:14:50 ↗ like an imbalance and housing driving uh

1:14:53 ↗ out other other types of uses but that

1:14:56 ↗ wasn't an extensive

1:14:58 ↗ conversation okay thank you Victor how

1:15:00 ↗ about your

1:15:01 ↗ perspective yes um I remember that at

1:15:04 ↗ the very beginning of our discussions we

1:15:06 ↗ were figuring out what the right um

1:15:09 ↗ separation of of of focus should be

1:15:12 ↗ between our two goal areas and the way

1:15:14 ↗ that Chris and I discussed it was you

1:15:17 ↗ have two parts of of the of this puzzle

1:15:20 ↗ you have the uh affordability of the

1:15:23 ↗ housing and then the ability of the

1:15:26 ↗ people to actually afford the housing so

1:15:30 ↗ um we ended up saying that social and

1:15:32 ↗ economic economic Vitality should focus

1:15:35 ↗ on how can people afford housing and how

1:15:39 ↗ to bring that affordability up from the

1:15:42 ↗ perspective of their income and how to

1:15:45 ↗ increase better wage jobs within the

1:15:48 ↗ city and the other goal area focused on

1:15:53 ↗ increasing the stock of a affordable

1:15:55 ↗ housing within the city so that both of

1:15:58 ↗ them meet halfway and increase the

1:16:01 ↗ ability for people to both live and work

1:16:03 ↗ in Isel right and um I believe that's

1:16:07 ↗ where we landed on

1:16:10 ↗ that great thank you very much

1:16:14 ↗ um just as Victor was giving his answer

1:16:18 ↗ I I was it struck me that the the

1:16:21 ↗ challenges and questions that this task

1:16:22 ↗ force has been struggling through are

1:16:25 ↗ the same questions that those of us on

1:16:27 ↗ Council those of those of us on um

1:16:31 ↗ nonprofit boards are struggling with as

1:16:32 ↗ well and I really appreciate all the

1:16:34 ↗ hard work that you have given to our

1:16:37 ↗ city as a volunteer uh giving your

1:16:39 ↗ perspectives it's very important that we

1:16:42 ↗ continue to engage the community and we

1:16:44 ↗ hope that you'll be leaders in that

1:16:45 ↗ engagement as we go forward so thank you

1:16:47 ↗ Dale for all your hard work appreciate

1:16:50 ↗ it okay looking to council members any

1:16:53 ↗ other questions

1:16:55 ↗ no okay I think we will go to public

1:16:59 ↗ comment and then we can get to council

1:17:01 ↗ feedback so um trying to see if there is

1:17:05 ↗ anyone online or in person who would

1:17:07 ↗ like to make public comment they are

1:17:10 ↗ online on the phone they can press star

1:17:12 ↗ three if on a computer or smartphone you

1:17:16 ↗ can raise your hand icon or um send the

1:17:20 ↗ host a chat

1:17:22 ↗ message anybody indicated a desire to

1:17:25 ↗ speak council president none of our uh

1:17:28 ↗ virtual attendees have indicated a

1:17:30 ↗ desire to speak okay

1:17:33 ↗ fantastic who wants to start this fun

1:17:36 ↗ process of uh

1:17:38 ↗ feedback okay council member Mar's got

1:17:41 ↗ there first there we go thank thank you

1:17:43 ↗ council president um so just a couple of

1:17:47 ↗ thoughts as uh somebody who is actually

1:17:49 ↗ council president the last time we did

1:17:52 ↗ this a very different process you know

1:17:54 ↗ you know uh I just want to thank the

1:17:56 ↗ members of the Strategic Plan update

1:17:58 ↗ Task Force and and just say you know I I

1:18:01 ↗ wish you know I I wish that we could do

1:18:04 ↗ a you know a reality TV show and instead

1:18:07 ↗ of Dancing With the Stars we call it

1:18:08 ↗ planning with the Stars because you all

1:18:12 ↗ really did an amazing job and I I

1:18:15 ↗ compare it to um juries I was a on a I

1:18:18 ↗ was on a felony case in Seattle and it

1:18:20 ↗ and it sort of restored my my faith in

1:18:23 ↗ in my fellow community members because

1:18:25 ↗ they did such a great job adjudicating a

1:18:27 ↗ difficult case and you all did an

1:18:29 ↗ amazing job here too the last time we

1:18:31 ↗ did this it was a there were a lot of uh

1:18:33 ↗ fits and and bumps and starts and elbows

1:18:36 ↗ and and whatnot and and uh I just think

1:18:39 ↗ you all were just amazingly um

1:18:43 ↗ thoughtful and uh respectful to each

1:18:45 ↗ other despite having great differing um

1:18:48 ↗ points to make at different times and

1:18:50 ↗ being very passionate about this process

1:18:52 ↗ um I also want to thank Dale like like

1:18:54 ↗ everybody else who's thanking Dale you

1:18:56 ↗ know the last time we did this we paid a

1:18:58 ↗ professional facilitator whose job it

1:19:01 ↗ was to herd cats who did that for a

1:19:03 ↗ living I think we paid them a lot of

1:19:04 ↗ money and uh you know we have this

1:19:07 ↗ homegrown talent in our own uh

1:19:09 ↗ Administration able to do this and we

1:19:11 ↗ didn't have to look uh to go bring a a

1:19:13 ↗ professional facilitator to uh assuage

1:19:17 ↗ uh Egos and and whatnot so uh you know I

1:19:19 ↗ don't have much else to say because I

1:19:20 ↗ was involved in the in the development

1:19:22 ↗ of this so I support it very much uh I'm

1:19:25 ↗ eager to see um how this process

1:19:27 ↗ continues through the next couple of

1:19:29 ↗ quarters you know this is a

1:19:30 ↗ recommendation I'm sure the

1:19:32 ↗ administration will have some thoughts

1:19:33 ↗ about some of the things that we came up

1:19:34 ↗ with and I'm eager to hear about some of

1:19:36 ↗ that but uh it has been uh you know I I

1:19:40 ↗ liked the what was it Sheree what do we

1:19:42 ↗ call what was the process that we had

1:19:43 ↗ that five years sheret you know I liked

1:19:46 ↗ the sheret but I think this as a as a uh

1:19:50 ↗ uh modification of an existing plan uh

1:19:53 ↗ worked really well and I just wish more

1:19:54 ↗ members of the public uh got to see the

1:19:56 ↗ hard work that you all did thank you and

1:19:59 ↗ before we go on Dale could you just move

1:20:01 ↗ the slide to just Direction needed just

1:20:04 ↗ want to give you an opportunity you're

1:20:06 ↗ good on all of that of course I was part

1:20:09 ↗ of the group so I better be just making

1:20:10 ↗ sure I'll okay I think I'll just go down

1:20:14 ↗ the line yeah uh well I too had the

1:20:18 ↗ privilege of getting to work in this

1:20:21 ↗ group which was a great group um I I

1:20:24 ↗ also support the uh recommended updates

1:20:27 ↗ I will say it seems like in the in the

1:20:30 ↗ discussion and in the presentations

1:20:32 ↗ there was um at least one and maybe a

1:20:36 ↗ couple um items that didn't fit neatly

1:20:38 ↗ into a bucket and so I think Council

1:20:40 ↗ should consider those and consider how

1:20:42 ↗ we make sure that we do follow up on

1:20:44 ↗ making progress on those items um

1:20:46 ↗ whether they're worked into the plan in

1:20:48 ↗ a different way or whether they go into

1:20:50 ↗ a different functional plan or however

1:20:53 ↗ that may work out um but generally I do

1:20:56 ↗ support the recommendation of the task

1:20:58 ↗ force and um really enjoyed

1:20:59 ↗ participating as well specifically I

1:21:02 ↗ thought when the themes came out they

1:21:05 ↗ were really right on with the kinds of

1:21:08 ↗ um themes that I think we needed to make

1:21:10 ↗ sure we addressed in this 5-year update

1:21:13 ↗ uh so specifically Public Safety that

1:21:15 ↗ was something that came to the Forefront

1:21:18 ↗ especially in 2020 and 2021 when I was

1:21:21 ↗ council president and we we were really

1:21:23 ↗ needing to make sure that we were

1:21:24 ↗ addressing that um in a strategic way

1:21:26 ↗ and I think that the task force uh did a

1:21:29 ↗ did a great job of making sure that that

1:21:31 ↗ was addressed in this update um

1:21:34 ↗ additionally adding more emphasis on

1:21:36 ↗ climate as we've seen hotter Summers and

1:21:39 ↗ smokier Summers um this is definitely

1:21:41 ↗ something that we're working through

1:21:42 ↗ with emergency planning and I

1:21:44 ↗ appreciated the update there to make

1:21:46 ↗ sure that we're addressing climate

1:21:48 ↗ mitigation and climate um and climate

1:21:51 ↗ action in this update as well and then

1:21:53 ↗ also the overlay of equity that over the

1:21:56 ↗ last 5 years as a city we've embarked on

1:21:58 ↗ trying to make sure that we are

1:22:00 ↗ addressing equity in all of all of our

1:22:03 ↗ policies and so I appreciated having

1:22:05 ↗ that lens represented uh as we worked

1:22:07 ↗ through this

1:22:09 ↗ update infrastructure I was on the

1:22:12 ↗ original um I was on I was part of the

1:22:15 ↗ original group that developed this plan

1:22:18 ↗ and infrastructure was considered last

1:22:20 ↗ last time around um it was something

1:22:23 ↗ that our uh our facilitator said you

1:22:26 ↗ know absolutely we need to include this

1:22:28 ↗ but it really didn't come about from our

1:22:30 ↗ community conversations during that

1:22:32 ↗ first uh go-around so I really

1:22:34 ↗ appreciated the additional focus and the

1:22:37 ↗ community input on infrastructure um and

1:22:40 ↗ I think we have a much stronger

1:22:42 ↗ infrastructure section which is really

1:22:44 ↗ important when that fails then it

1:22:46 ↗ becomes very very important and so I

1:22:48 ↗ think um I think that was also very well

1:22:50 ↗ done and I really appreciate the extra

1:22:52 ↗ time that was spent on that and on

1:22:55 ↗ housing I appreciate the tweaks of the

1:22:56 ↗ wording um I think as as policy changes

1:23:00 ↗ over time wording does matter and if

1:23:02 ↗ we're using wording that is othering to

1:23:04 ↗ any of our community members I really

1:23:06 ↗ appreciate making sure that we're

1:23:07 ↗ updating the wording uh so that we are

1:23:10 ↗ we are not

1:23:11 ↗ unintentionally unintentionally othering

1:23:14 ↗ anyone

1:23:16 ↗ um lastly on Transportation which I I um

1:23:21 ↗ uh you know I think as a mom of kids on

1:23:23 ↗ bikes this has been something that I've

1:23:25 ↗ been really appreciative of the multim

1:23:26 ↗ modal Focus but specifically saying like

1:23:29 ↗ let's make sure that we're addressing

1:23:30 ↗ safety I think that is that is really

1:23:33 ↗ necessary and really something that is

1:23:35 ↗ increasingly on the minds of our

1:23:36 ↗ community members as well um so those

1:23:39 ↗ were some specific things overall I just

1:23:41 ↗ really think that this was a very

1:23:43 ↗ thoughtful update very very well done

1:23:48 ↗ process by Dale Mary Crim and um I just

1:23:52 ↗ want to thank the task force for

1:23:53 ↗ representing the diversity of opinions

1:23:55 ↗ and perspectives that are in our

1:24:00 ↗ community um thank you I think first I

1:24:03 ↗ want to thank the mayor for convening

1:24:04 ↗ the task force um I want to thank

1:24:06 ↗ everyone who participated in the process

1:24:08 ↗ too um I was a and and of course our

1:24:11 ↗ staff who supported the work Dale of

1:24:13 ↗ course but I know from watching the

1:24:15 ↗ first couple meetings there were quite a

1:24:17 ↗ few staff that came to talk about all

1:24:19 ↗ the different functional plans that we

1:24:20 ↗ have so thanks to you for uh spending

1:24:23 ↗ your evenings with this group gr as well

1:24:25 ↗ um like I said I was able to watch the

1:24:27 ↗ first two meetings then the final

1:24:28 ↗ meeting and the amount of work that

1:24:30 ↗ happened in between is exceptional

1:24:32 ↗ nothing like crazy actually um so I'm

1:24:35 ↗ really impressed with the process where

1:24:36 ↗ We've Ended up I love to see the

1:24:38 ↗ alignment with our planning documents uh

1:24:40 ↗ to see that our objectives and potential

1:24:42 ↗ actions have been updated um it's clear

1:24:44 ↗ there's a lot of area of emphasis for us

1:24:46 ↗ to focus on and kind of renew focus on

1:24:48 ↗ over the next 5 years um special call

1:24:51 ↗ out to the mobility update I might have

1:24:53 ↗ that frame I love that update um the

1:24:56 ↗ only thing that stands out to me as

1:24:59 ↗ potentially missing in the Strategic

1:25:01 ↗ plan that I want to highlight is

1:25:03 ↗ how Recreation programming and community

1:25:06 ↗ building and creating spaces for social

1:25:09 ↗ connection fit into our fiveyear

1:25:11 ↗ strategic Vision I know we're interested

1:25:13 ↗ in having a conversation eventually

1:25:15 ↗ about how our Recreation programming is

1:25:17 ↗ meeting the evolving needs of our

1:25:19 ↗ community um but I'm also reminded of us

1:25:22 ↗ surgeon general's warning around um

1:25:25 ↗ loneliness and isolation an epidemic of

1:25:28 ↗ loneliness and isolation is how he

1:25:30 ↗ referred to it um and how social

1:25:33 ↗ connection is shaped at the individual

1:25:35 ↗ level right the neighborhood level the

1:25:37 ↗ community level the society level so we

1:25:38 ↗ do have a role in this and so I don't

1:25:41 ↗ know if it needs to happen necessarily

1:25:42 ↗ with this but I do think it's important

1:25:44 ↗ that at some point we incorporate our

1:25:46 ↗ role into the Strategic plan um and

1:25:49 ↗ maybe it is something we need to think

1:25:50 ↗ about with more intention and more

1:25:51 ↗ Community input um down the line but

1:25:54 ↗ anyways I just wanted to emphasize that

1:25:56 ↗ as a priority something that might be

1:25:57 ↗ missing but also a great opportunity

1:25:59 ↗ something into our 5-year Vision um but

1:26:01 ↗ just to be clear again fantastic work

1:26:03 ↗ done here and I think that the next

1:26:06 ↗ steps um make sense to me staff review

1:26:09 ↗ um boarding commission additional public

1:26:12 ↗ input and back to council thanks

1:26:16 ↗ again thank you all try to be brief some

1:26:19 ↗ great comments from my fellow council

1:26:21 ↗ members I I think um just a couple of

1:26:25 ↗ thoughts one I appreciate uh uh the

1:26:29 ↗ forward-looking nature of

1:26:32 ↗ infrastructure we never have ribbon

1:26:34 ↗ cuttings for new sidewalks or getting

1:26:37 ↗ graffiti off of bridges um but it's an

1:26:40 ↗ important aspect in order to keep our

1:26:41 ↗ infrastructure up to date I think TJ

1:26:44 ↗ pointed out that when you buy something

1:26:45 ↗ you also have to think about the up

1:26:48 ↗ upkeep that's going to be needed there

1:26:50 ↗ to keep it operational and having that

1:26:52 ↗ vision in mind by this task force shows

1:26:54 ↗ its forward Vision uh as you were you

1:26:56 ↗ were going forward um also on the uh

1:27:00 ↗ subject of housing uh under the growth

1:27:03 ↗ and development topic I I appreciated

1:27:06 ↗ the uh forward looking in the sense that

1:27:08 ↗ you in number one talked about

1:27:12 ↗ responsibly accommodating additional

1:27:13 ↗ housing and services throughout the city

1:27:16 ↗ um as you're going forward you had the

1:27:19 ↗ foresight I think if I'm reading it

1:27:21 ↗ right to to think about those people

1:27:23 ↗ that aren't here yet but may want to

1:27:26 ↗ move here and how are we going to

1:27:28 ↗ accommodate them so that we can still

1:27:29 ↗ keep our unique charm our neighborhoods

1:27:32 ↗ uh but still have additional housing and

1:27:34 ↗ infill that's going to um increase our

1:27:37 ↗ densities in in thoughtful ways and I I

1:27:39 ↗ thought that was also very forward

1:27:41 ↗ looking I appreciated that um one small

1:27:44 ↗ point of of just a quibble would be um

1:27:49 ↗ under the housing um I can't place it

1:27:53 ↗ right now but the affordable housing Ami

1:27:56 ↗ under 30% 0 to 30% Ami on page 19

1:28:00 ↗ explore and invest in housing for

1:28:02 ↗ individuals and families with the

1:28:03 ↗ greatest need um obviously I think our

1:28:06 ↗ housing ad advocates in in our in our

1:28:09 ↗ staff know that we don't necessarily buy

1:28:12 ↗ that housing ourselves but we work with

1:28:14 ↗ Arch and other nonprofits to um get that

1:28:18 ↗ housing put in if we can and and we can

1:28:21 ↗ find properties that work so just of

1:28:24 ↗ clarification on that point just to

1:28:25 ↗ indicate that it's more of a

1:28:27 ↗ collaboration and not necessarily

1:28:29 ↗ directs the investment on housing and

1:28:31 ↗ that's really the only small point that

1:28:33 ↗ I could find after I looked at this for

1:28:34 ↗ an hour and a half so thank you for

1:28:37 ↗ again for everyone that uh worked on

1:28:39 ↗ this and all your all of your hard work

1:28:41 ↗ thank

1:28:42 ↗ you Deputy council

1:28:45 ↗ president whoops thank you so much um

1:28:49 ↗ yes just really excellent excellent work

1:28:52 ↗ I have some thoughts about uh uh some of

1:28:55 ↗ the points in the plan uh but uh uh

1:28:59 ↗ there's others for the for the sake of

1:29:01 ↗ time I'm not going to talk about

1:29:03 ↗ everything like I would like to so um I

1:29:08 ↗ first of all I was really impressed with

1:29:09 ↗ the D detailed list of actions around

1:29:12 ↗ housing uh and I won't go over each of

1:29:14 ↗ those in detail but when I was reading

1:29:16 ↗ it and looking at all of the things that

1:29:18 ↗ have been added I just thought it

1:29:20 ↗ reflected how important housing and

1:29:24 ↗ affordable housing is becoming it's been

1:29:26 ↗ coming for a long time we've been

1:29:28 ↗ hearing it for a long time but obviously

1:29:29 ↗ now it's reflected in our strategic plan

1:29:32 ↗ and uh really more of a comment for my

1:29:35 ↗ fellow council members uh again when we

1:29:37 ↗ go through the budget process maybe we

1:29:39 ↗ need to look at what are What U what

1:29:42 ↗ resources are we putting toward uh being

1:29:46 ↗ proactive in achieving these strategic

1:29:48 ↗ goals because we want want to see them

1:29:51 ↗ actually uh come to fruition and it's

1:29:53 ↗ really important important for our

1:29:54 ↗ community that they come to

1:29:56 ↗ fruition uh I was really thrilled to see

1:29:59 ↗ that uh uh the idea of

1:30:02 ↗ operationalizing equity um just a week

1:30:05 ↗ and a half ago I sat in on a all day

1:30:08 ↗ conference uh on the east side uh

1:30:11 ↗ addressing this very issue how do we

1:30:13 ↗ take what we've done in equity now and

1:30:16 ↗ make it you know even deeper and more

1:30:19 ↗ meaningful in our

1:30:20 ↗ organizations um and again we are one of

1:30:24 ↗ leaders we are in many ways far far

1:30:26 ↗ ahead of our fellow um cities but um

1:30:30 ↗ there's still so much work to do so I'm

1:30:32 ↗ really pleased that that was included uh

1:30:34 ↗ in the Strategic plan uh Human Services

1:30:38 ↗ I can't thank you enough so five years

1:30:40 ↗ ago I was a citizen uh making comments

1:30:43 ↗ about the Strategic plan and one of the

1:30:46 ↗ areas where I was really concerned was

1:30:49 ↗ Human Services was there enough and and

1:30:51 ↗ now there is enough human servic is

1:30:54 ↗ really reflected uh especially want to

1:30:56 ↗ commend you with the idea of convening

1:30:59 ↗ our social services uh in every half

1:31:02 ↗ year every six months or so and

1:31:04 ↗ listening to them um in order to learn

1:31:07 ↗ how we can help our social service

1:31:10 ↗ providers our nonprofits Thrive uh

1:31:13 ↗ similarly to the way that we support our

1:31:16 ↗ for-profit businesses and how can we

1:31:19 ↗ help them become economically viable and

1:31:22 ↗ vital just the way we work with our our

1:31:24 ↗ for profits um I did wonder when I was

1:31:27 ↗ reading that section if we wanted to

1:31:29 ↗ broaden the definition uh it says Social

1:31:32 ↗ Services providers um we also have

1:31:35 ↗ people that provide what I would call uh

1:31:37 ↗ Community resilience Services uh that

1:31:41 ↗ aren't exactly direct service providers

1:31:44 ↗ um and for the wording on broading that

1:31:47 ↗ I would recommend that we talk to our

1:31:48 ↗ Human Services director uh or manager uh

1:31:52 ↗ Monica Nilla because I think perhaps we

1:31:55 ↗ should include in that Beyond social

1:31:57 ↗ service providers those uh groups that

1:32:00 ↗ really work on providing resilience so

1:32:02 ↗ that people don't fall into the social

1:32:05 ↗ service network so that's just again I I

1:32:08 ↗ trust the task force to discuss that

1:32:11 ↗ thoroughly and come up with a good a

1:32:13 ↗ good uh

1:32:14 ↗ resolution um transportation I

1:32:17 ↗ absolutely applaud the commitment to

1:32:19 ↗ Vision zero uh which seeks which is a

1:32:22 ↗ program if people don't know that seeks

1:32:23 ↗ to reduce pedestrian deaths and

1:32:26 ↗ Belleview uh city of Bellevue adopted

1:32:28 ↗ this a number of years ago and has made

1:32:30 ↗ some progress on it this last year

1:32:32 ↗ Washington state had the highest number

1:32:34 ↗ of pedestrian deaths in its history uh

1:32:37 ↗ this is absolutely a vital thing for us

1:32:38 ↗ to take on and again demonstrates the

1:32:41 ↗ forward-looking

1:32:42 ↗ um approach that this task force took

1:32:46 ↗ and uh finally two things R very quickly

1:32:49 ↗ I absolutely applaud the support for

1:32:51 ↗ Community Court uh again a very

1:32:54 ↗ important part of our Human Services

1:32:56 ↗ provision but also our justice system if

1:32:58 ↗ there's one thing that's missing and um

1:33:02 ↗ uh it is referred to in in the word

1:33:04 ↗ cultural but there is no exact um um

1:33:09 ↗ plan for arts and so I would just bring

1:33:12 ↗ that up as something that again I'm sure

1:33:15 ↗ the task force can chew on that and

1:33:17 ↗ decide whether it belongs or doesn't

1:33:19 ↗ belong in the Strategic plan um but all

1:33:22 ↗ of this is it's all good as Martha

1:33:24 ↗ Stewart likes to say it's all good

1:33:26 ↗ really excellent work um and I just

1:33:29 ↗ applaud what what you've done in the

1:33:31 ↗ hard work and the good thinking that

1:33:33 ↗ went into this really wonderful so thank

1:33:35 ↗ you so much really pleased with the

1:33:37 ↗ product that we have in front of us

1:33:40 ↗ today okay I will end us off with

1:33:45 ↗ feedback plus one to a lot of what I've

1:33:48 ↗ heard participated in the group I came

1:33:51 ↗ away every meeting mentally

1:33:54 ↗ exhausted because there was so much deep

1:33:59 ↗ heavy quick work um that was going so

1:34:02 ↗ really really impressed with that love

1:34:04 ↗ seeing the updates and how this

1:34:06 ↗ progresses us um forward as a community

1:34:09 ↗ it's very reflective of you know the

1:34:12 ↗ changes that we've seen in The Last 5

1:34:14 ↗ Years and looking forward to the changes

1:34:16 ↗ that we want to see in the next 5 years

1:34:19 ↗ um thinking on kind of the plan and

1:34:23 ↗ process proposed path forward as you say

1:34:27 ↗ um for this I particularly when we're

1:34:30 ↗ looking at Ste uh staff feedback I want

1:34:33 ↗ to make sure that we are really only

1:34:36 ↗ including actions that we really feel

1:34:39 ↗ like we can commit to in the next five

1:34:41 ↗ years I want to be able to at the end of

1:34:43 ↗ this fiveyear period put check marks on

1:34:45 ↗ a lot of those things and toward that

1:34:49 ↗ idea um I really want to make sure that

1:34:52 ↗ the actions are very

1:34:55 ↗ specific rather than aspirational one of

1:34:58 ↗ the issues that I had with the previous

1:35:00 ↗ plan was there were some things in there

1:35:02 ↗ that you just couldn't say whether you

1:35:04 ↗ had achieved it or not um and so I would

1:35:09 ↗ like just a little bit of Staff feedback

1:35:11 ↗ on those areas which I think is perfect

1:35:14 ↗ for a staff um scenario and then finally

1:35:18 ↗ there were a few just very few um

1:35:24 ↗ actions that I think I heard for the

1:35:27 ↗ first time with the task force that

1:35:29 ↗ didn't previously come from a plan or a

1:35:32 ↗ board discussion and so in those cases I

1:35:34 ↗ really want to make sure that that goes

1:35:36 ↗ back to the applicable board and make

1:35:39 ↗ sure that that's really or staff member

1:35:42 ↗ involved um to make sure that that

1:35:44 ↗ really is reflective and that we're not

1:35:47 ↗ adding something that hasn't had that

1:35:49 ↗ thorough

1:35:51 ↗ feedback finally the question for you

1:35:54 ↗ Dale is this proposed path doesn't have

1:35:57 ↗ Council approving this until Q4 we're

1:36:01 ↗ going into a budget period uh for a

1:36:04 ↗ two-year budget uh which will cover two

1:36:07 ↗ fifths of this strategic plan period how

1:36:12 ↗ are we

1:36:14 ↗ reflecting the actions and the needs

1:36:16 ↗ that the Strategic plan represents when

1:36:19 ↗ we haven't necessarily approved it yet

1:36:22 ↗ yep

1:36:24 ↗ I mean we're going to be working in

1:36:25 ↗ tandem on the two one is not going to

1:36:28 ↗ necessarily get ahead of the other but

1:36:31 ↗ the they're going to sit side by side

1:36:32 ↗ through the end of this year so I I

1:36:35 ↗ would be surp I would be unsurprised I

1:36:37 ↗ guess I should say if we don't come back

1:36:40 ↗ to you with something prior to that late

1:36:43 ↗ Q4 the idea is that would just be the

1:36:45 ↗ very latest time that we would come

1:36:48 ↗ back and I I think as we think about it

1:36:51 ↗ as Council and looking at that

1:36:54 ↗ budget you know this is great feedback

1:36:57 ↗ but there's very little of it that is a

1:37:00 ↗ surprise so I would uh expect the

1:37:04 ↗ administration to have already started

1:37:05 ↗ working those into the budget um period

1:37:08 ↗ but I am looking forward to as we review

1:37:11 ↗ that budget understanding are we

1:37:14 ↗ accomplishing two fifths of what is in

1:37:17 ↗ the Strategic Plan update as we approve

1:37:22 ↗ this budget because we all know that

1:37:25 ↗ actions don't get accomplished without

1:37:28 ↗ money so with that any other

1:37:32 ↗ feedback does the administration have

1:37:34 ↗ what they need to take this to the next

1:37:38 ↗ steps I do okay I just want to say

1:37:42 ↗ another really big thank you to all of

1:37:44 ↗ those involved in this the staff our

1:37:48 ↗ fearless leader who really did do an

1:37:53 ↗ amazing job job on this and all of our

1:37:55 ↗ community members both those in person

1:37:56 ↗ here and those who um worked on it I

1:37:59 ↗ think you guys I see some snacks and

1:38:03 ↗ stuff out there you guys are going to go

1:38:05 ↗ out and you get to party while we get to

1:38:07 ↗ continue our meeting here um I'm

1:38:11 ↗ thinking council members maybe we take a

1:38:13 ↗ five minute break just to have a little

1:38:15 ↗ bit of transition time okay fantastic so

1:38:18 ↗ we will take a five minute break thank

1:38:20 ↗ you

1:38:22 ↗ everyone e

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1:45:19 ↗ okay we are back at this point and going

1:45:22 ↗ into our second item um which is Comm

1:45:26 ↗ 0055 facilities and revenue options

1:45:29 ↗ presented by Autumn Manan administrative

1:45:31 ↗ Services director and Andrea Snyder

1:45:33 ↗ interim

1:45:35 ↗ CFO take it away

1:45:37 ↗ folks thank you City councel again my

1:45:39 ↗ name is otam manahan I'm the

1:45:41 ↗ administrative Services director I'm

1:45:43 ↗ here with a whole lot of friends tonight

1:45:45 ↗ uh including Andrea Snider our Deputy

1:45:47 ↗ City administrator and interim CFO I

1:45:50 ↗ also have Representatives here from fire

1:45:51 ↗ police

1:45:53 ↗ um Court

1:45:56 ↗ facilities and uh our Architects from

1:46:00 ↗ TCA so they're all here and available to

1:46:02 ↗ answer any questions as we

1:46:04 ↗ go so

1:46:06 ↗ quickly purpose of tonight's meeting is

1:46:08 ↗ to provide follow-up information

1:46:10 ↗ previous presentations and tours we've

1:46:13 ↗ been working on Space planning now for

1:46:14 ↗ over six years um our latest effort

1:46:17 ↗ started about two years ago and then

1:46:19 ↗ just in April uh Administration proposed

1:46:21 ↗ a phased approach to an Oldtown campus

1:46:24 ↗ we've had several meetings since then as

1:46:26 ↗ well as a couple tours one of existing

1:46:28 ↗ facilities and then last night of some

1:46:30 ↗ newer

1:46:31 ↗ facilities um and we have uh heard a lot

1:46:34 ↗ of your questions and answered all of

1:46:36 ↗ them via staff reports so tonight really

1:46:38 ↗ the purpose of this meeting is to

1:46:40 ↗ receive your feedback and review next

1:46:43 ↗ steps so the direction needed is should

1:46:46 ↗ Administration Focus further research on

1:46:48 ↗ a phased approach to an Oldtown

1:46:49 ↗ Municipal campus does the council agree

1:46:52 ↗ with Administration proposal to use

1:46:53 ↗ current resources for leasing office and

1:46:56 ↗ Court space and should the

1:46:58 ↗ administration proceed with planning for

1:46:59 ↗ a ballot measure for a public safe

1:47:00 ↗ Public Safety facilities Bond vote and

1:47:03 ↗ start creating a community engagement

1:47:04 ↗ plan for

1:47:05 ↗ review again all these questions are

1:47:07 ↗ just a really we're just looking for

1:47:10 ↗ direction on whether to move forward

1:47:12 ↗ with further research and efforts toward

1:47:15 ↗ this plan so we're not asking for any

1:47:18 ↗ major decision tonight but more are we

1:47:20 ↗ really on the right track

1:47:24 ↗ uh really briefly The Proposal again is

1:47:26 ↗ to demolish City all South which is this

1:47:28 ↗ building and utilize this property for

1:47:30 ↗ building a new fire station

1:47:32 ↗ 71 we would then move City Hall offices

1:47:35 ↗ as well as council chambers and the

1:47:37 ↗ court to leas space we've identified an

1:47:40 ↗ opportunity with the uh King County

1:47:42 ↗ District Court to lease space there for

1:47:44 ↗ court and we're still researching

1:47:45 ↗ options for City Hall and council

1:47:47 ↗ chambers and then remodeling the current

1:47:50 ↗ city hall once we move folks out

1:47:52 ↗ exclusively for for Police use and

1:47:54 ↗ having a long-term goal of still having

1:47:56 ↗ a new city

1:47:58 ↗ hall if council is supportive of the

1:48:00 ↗ plan of moving uh fire station 71 to

1:48:03 ↗ this location Administration recommends

1:48:05 ↗ uh keeping the property of the existing

1:48:08 ↗ station uh which could be uh used for

1:48:10 ↗ building a new city hall someday so we'd

1:48:12 ↗ recommend retaining that property for

1:48:15 ↗ future

1:48:16 ↗ use uh just a reminder on our project

1:48:19 ↗ goals ensuring safety responsibly

1:48:21 ↗ stewarding public dollars Prov providing

1:48:23 ↗ accessible equital and exceptional

1:48:24 ↗ customer service supporting Economic

1:48:26 ↗ Development delivering enhanced

1:48:28 ↗ Community amenities and embodying

1:48:29 ↗ environmental stewardship and in the

1:48:31 ↗ staff report we have broken down um each

1:48:34 ↗ of these facilities that we've talked

1:48:35 ↗ about in this phased approach and how

1:48:37 ↗ they meet some of these

1:48:40 ↗ goals and next I'll turn it over to

1:48:46 ↗ Andrea thank you Autumn good evening

1:48:48 ↗ Council I'm Andrea Snyder Deputy City

1:48:50 ↗ administrator and interim CFO uh you

1:48:52 ↗ have seen a couple of these slides

1:48:54 ↗ before this is just a reminder what we

1:48:56 ↗ estimate the cost to be for construction

1:48:59 ↗ of fire station 71 32 million police

1:49:02 ↗ renovations to the um existing building

1:49:05 ↗ 15 million for a total of 47 million um

1:49:08 ↗ also with this proposal leasing costs of

1:49:12 ↗ about 4 million for tenant improvements

1:49:14 ↗ um and then 1 million in rent and that

1:49:17 ↗ would cover City Hall and Court these

1:49:19 ↗ are rough order of magnitude estimates

1:49:22 ↗ um we would need to refine these numbers

1:49:24 ↗ as we move forward and finalize the

1:49:26 ↗ design for fire station 71 for example

1:49:30 ↗ um and other other costs but that's our

1:49:32 ↗ our estimates

1:49:36 ↗ initially how we propose to fund uh

1:49:39 ↗ these expenses would be that uh we would

1:49:42 ↗ Finance the police Renovations and the

1:49:44 ↗ fire station through voter approved debt

1:49:47 ↗ specifically what we've proposed is a

1:49:49 ↗ bond and we've discussed that in

1:49:50 ↗ previous meetings um uh the levy rate

1:49:54 ↗ based on these estimates would increase

1:49:56 ↗ from its current. 74 cents per $1,000 of

1:49:59 ↗ assessed value to 92 cents per $1,000 of

1:50:03 ↗ assessed value this as a reminder Keeps

1:50:06 ↗ Us in uh middle to low range of our

1:50:09 ↗ peers of surrounding cities in terms of

1:50:11 ↗ assessed property

1:50:14 ↗ tax um also is a chart here showing the

1:50:18 ↗ annual Debt Service for fire station 71

1:50:21 ↗ and ipd if we were to find Finance those

1:50:23 ↗ projects would be about $3 million a

1:50:25 ↗ year which would equate to about

1:50:28 ↗ $26 uh for the average annual household

1:50:31 ↗ inome that um average annual household

1:50:35 ↗ impact that average home value is about

1:50:38 ↗ $1.1 million in

1:50:40 ↗ isqua um we had a question from one of

1:50:43 ↗ the council members about what if we

1:50:45 ↗ were to include a new city hall

1:50:47 ↗ construction we heard last time from

1:50:49 ↗ Council that a long-term plan for City

1:50:51 ↗ Hall was what you would really hope to

1:50:53 ↗ hear today as Autumn said um we could

1:50:57 ↗ construct we're also uh still looking

1:50:59 ↗ for properties to purchase in the

1:51:01 ↗ interim and if we were to construct a

1:51:04 ↗ new city hall the estimate that we have

1:51:06 ↗ for that is between $45 to $49 million

1:51:09 ↗ so what that would mean if we were to

1:51:11 ↗ bond for that um or ask for funding from

1:51:14 ↗ voters for that at the same time that we

1:51:15 ↗ ask for funding for fire station 71 and

1:51:18 ↗ ipd Renovations that' be about doubling

1:51:20 ↗ what you see here on this chart so about

1:51:24 ↗ $410 per year um for that average annual

1:51:27 ↗ household impact if we were to try to do

1:51:29 ↗ it all at

1:51:33 ↗ once also as part of our funding

1:51:35 ↗ proposal as a reminder uh for those

1:51:37 ↗ least property expenses we do have

1:51:40 ↗ existing funds on hand that we would use

1:51:43 ↗ for those leases that's approximately 10

1:51:45 ↗ to 15 million from the anticipated sale

1:51:48 ↗ of City Hall Northwest as well as

1:51:50 ↗ Government mitigation funds that we have

1:51:52 ↗ on hand um given our estimates for

1:51:55 ↗ one-time cost these existing funds are

1:51:57 ↗ anticipated to cover the least cost for

1:52:00 ↗ the next 5 to8

1:52:03 ↗ years and I'll turn it back over to

1:52:10 ↗ Autumn so I'll show you a timeline here

1:52:12 ↗ in a moment of some suggested next steps

1:52:15 ↗ but public engagement was also an area

1:52:17 ↗ that uh Council asked staff to come and

1:52:20 ↗ uh discuss a bit more so some ideas

1:52:22 ↗ include um putting together a community

1:52:24 ↗ task force that could provide some

1:52:26 ↗ feedback on an engagement plan hiring a

1:52:29 ↗ consultant to help us with that plan as

1:52:31 ↗ well as a community survey ahead of

1:52:32 ↗ going to voters um and ensuring that we

1:52:34 ↗ include old child residents Human

1:52:36 ↗ Service Providers businesses and artists

1:52:38 ↗ uh specifically in the Oldtown area just

1:52:40 ↗ because um of all the proposals here in

1:52:42 ↗ this

1:52:43 ↗ location so as far as timing and next

1:52:46 ↗ steps uh depending on your direction and

1:52:48 ↗ your feedback a draft schedule could

1:52:50 ↗ include uh more discussion at the city

1:52:52 ↗ council Retreat on July 27th in the fall

1:52:56 ↗ uh developing that engagement plan

1:52:57 ↗ putting together the task force and

1:53:00 ↗ continuing our research and further

1:53:01 ↗ scoping costs for a phased approach to

1:53:03 ↗ an Oldtown campus and then next year

1:53:06 ↗ finalizing lease uh finalizing the lease

1:53:08 ↗ and moving isqua Municipal Court to King

1:53:10 ↗ County's facility continuing to research

1:53:13 ↗ options for lease space for City Hall

1:53:15 ↗ and um for council chambers based on

1:53:18 ↗ community feedback begin design of fire

1:53:21 ↗ station 71 police improvements to better

1:53:24 ↗ understand the costs and then uh city

1:53:26 ↗ council decision on placing a measure on

1:53:28 ↗ the

1:53:29 ↗ ballot and with that we're here to

1:53:31 ↗ answer any

1:53:34 ↗ questions okay so I know we have lots of

1:53:40 ↗ conversation and feedback um that will

1:53:43 ↗ come but starting out do we have any

1:53:46 ↗ questions on these areas that we want to

1:53:48 ↗ start with council member Mars thanks I

1:53:51 ↗ had add staff uh I had some concerns

1:53:54 ↗ about how this particular parcel would

1:53:56 ↗ work for a fire station and um you know

1:53:59 ↗ the maneuvering of uh the rigs I haven't

1:54:01 ↗ seen any information since I asked those

1:54:04 ↗ questions uh in the staff report there's

1:54:06 ↗ an attachment that shows some of that

1:54:08 ↗ turning radius for apparatus um so

1:54:11 ↗ that's the first start but we also have

1:54:14 ↗ um TCA here available

1:54:20 ↗ too are there any like visuals or or

1:54:23 ↗ visual aids or things you can point to

1:54:26 ↗ yeah let me there was an attachment in

1:54:28 ↗ our packet great so can you present

1:54:36 ↗ that I'll let you start talking

1:54:43 ↗ while

1:54:45 ↗ okay sounds good yeah we took a look at

1:54:48 ↗ the turning

1:54:49 ↗ radius um and so you'll see um the one

1:54:53 ↗ main or the bay we just drew in uh when

1:54:56 ↗ it brings up we drew in kind of the

1:54:59 ↗ worst case scenario for one of the

1:55:00 ↗ largest trucks that we would expect um

1:55:03 ↗ the bays are Universal siiz Bays so kind

1:55:06 ↗ of sized for growth or possibility since

1:55:09 ↗ this is kind of a schematic plan and so

1:55:11 ↗ we took kind of a the largest turning

1:55:14 ↗ radius um and placed it on the plan to

1:55:17 ↗ see how that to show you how that would

1:55:19 ↗ impact the site

1:55:35 ↗ do we have anything to present here or

1:55:38 ↗ should I take another question in the

1:55:40 ↗ meantime

1:55:42 ↗ yes okay

1:56:01 ↗ so you can see the dash lines of the

1:56:03 ↗ turning

1:56:19 ↗ radius and so let me ask if if I may a

1:56:23 ↗ couple questions about

1:56:25 ↗ this so what are you using as the

1:56:28 ↗ Baseline for the interior Dimensions to

1:56:31 ↗ fit a ladder truck um so the Big Bay is

1:56:36 ↗ I believe

1:56:37 ↗ 75 feet deep so there's 9 ft required so

1:56:41 ↗ city vqu standers is by fold folding

1:56:44 ↗ doors which takes about 9ine feet so you

1:56:47 ↗ need four feet plus a five foot to walk

1:56:50 ↗ around the rig as well as five feet at

1:56:51 ↗ the back and so it's about 60 ft for

1:56:54 ↗ that um rig is what we're showing

1:56:57 ↗ here and how does that compare to the

1:57:00 ↗ bay that's not big enough 72 currently

1:57:04 ↗ uh to house a

1:57:05 ↗ rig that I am not sure I'd have to get

1:57:09 ↗ back to you on that

1:57:11 ↗ question

1:57:15 ↗ keep take that

1:57:17 ↗ one yeah so the current ladder that we

1:57:19 ↗ have there it's 58 ft long and it

1:57:21 ↗ doesn't meet that current surround

1:57:23 ↗ standard um like Sarah just mentioned

1:57:25 ↗ having that five feet on the front side

1:57:27 ↗ and the back side um fortunately uh the

1:57:30 ↗ council members that were able to do the

1:57:32 ↗ walkth through you know when we have the

1:57:33 ↗ doors closed you're able to see the

1:57:36 ↗ tight circulation and the intent on

1:57:38 ↗ having that space is so we could rapidly

1:57:40 ↗ get folks around it so that apparatus

1:57:45 ↗ was designed to fit within that bay so

1:57:49 ↗ that's why it's short within that length

1:57:51 ↗ so having that 75 ft does allow us

1:57:54 ↗ flexibility for growth um uh for the

1:57:57 ↗ apparatus as

1:57:59 ↗ well thank you

1:58:03 ↗ Chief okay uh any other questions

1:58:06 ↗ council member Ms no okay go ahead uh

1:58:10 ↗ Council M hunt uh quick followup on that

1:58:14 ↗ uh same same topic uh so when we were on

1:58:17 ↗ the tour yesterday it sounded like the

1:58:19 ↗ recommendation would be it would allow

1:58:21 ↗ more room if we had not the bfold doors

1:58:24 ↗ but rather the you know sort of garage

1:58:26 ↗ doors that roll up was I mistaken and if

1:58:30 ↗ so would that could we factor that into

1:58:32 ↗ the design plan it would buy us some

1:58:34 ↗ additional feet that we wouldn't need to

1:58:35 ↗ have the folding

1:58:38 ↗ doors yes so there's a couple there's

1:58:41 ↗ couple decisions on those doors on

1:58:43 ↗ whether you go byold or um roll up I

1:58:46 ↗ believe the fivefold open faster so

1:58:49 ↗ there's that

1:58:50 ↗ consideration um um they I believe they

1:58:54 ↗ are take less maintenance as over ahead

1:58:57 ↗ doors often require quite a bit of

1:59:00 ↗ Maintenance they get I believe they get

1:59:02 ↗ hit more often the overhead

1:59:03 ↗ doors um so because the speed you can

1:59:07 ↗ see them open completely so they get hit

1:59:09 ↗ a little bit less um they are as you

1:59:12 ↗ they're more expensive so there is cost

1:59:14 ↗ Factor so the doors themselves are more

1:59:16 ↗ expensive and you include the area

1:59:18 ↗ square footage so there's basically

1:59:20 ↗ we're seeing three kind of door

1:59:23 ↗ scenarios there's um high-p speed

1:59:25 ↗ coiling doors as an option um those you

1:59:29 ↗ see often in car dealership so they roll

1:59:31 ↗ up really quickly we see the byold and

1:59:35 ↗ um just your regular overhead door and

1:59:37 ↗ those they all have three different kind

1:59:40 ↗ of price points for those and different

1:59:42 ↗ kind of

1:59:45 ↗ functioning for fortunately the city of

1:59:48 ↗ isua is supported in the other two

1:59:49 ↗ stations those uh bold doors

1:59:52 ↗ um as Sarah did describe uh the visible

1:59:57 ↗ um opening and closing of those doors

2:00:00 ↗ allows our operators or drivers to have

2:00:03 ↗ maintain a line of sight there are

2:00:05 ↗ safety measures for roll up doors they

2:00:08 ↗ are lower cost and our maintenance folks

2:00:12 ↗ have to spend a tremendous amount of

2:00:14 ↗ time uh when we do a a Time study um

2:00:18 ↗ when I assisted with another fire

2:00:20 ↗ station those by doors because of how

2:00:23 ↗ they function they're able to open in

2:00:24 ↗ about 14 seconds versus 45 to 60 seconds

2:00:28 ↗ for a rollup door depending on the

2:00:31 ↗ height that it has to try to open to

2:00:35 ↗ clear and turnout times are

2:00:42 ↗ important as as you're hearing and as we

2:00:44 ↗ stated earlier tonight there's a lot

2:00:46 ↗ more that goes into design of a fire

2:00:47 ↗ station these aren't the final designs

2:00:50 ↗ um what the administration is hoping to

2:00:52 ↗ hear from Council this evening is

2:00:53 ↗ whether we proceed with a plan to build

2:00:55 ↗ a fire station uh use and then we would

2:00:59 ↗ of course uh finish up design we've only

2:01:02 ↗ really done fit tests at this point

2:01:03 ↗ there's a lot more that we need to

2:01:05 ↗ determine that would go into uh a new

2:01:07 ↗ fire station thank

2:01:11 ↗ you okay just to just to clarify though

2:01:15 ↗ on the tour yesterday one of the big

2:01:17 ↗ things that was mentioned was that the

2:01:19 ↗ space for vehicles that's one of the

2:01:21 ↗ limiting factors

2:01:22 ↗ um for the whole uh the whole fire

2:01:25 ↗ station and so it really is important to

2:01:28 ↗ make sure that we can fit those vehicles

2:01:30 ↗ and we can fit them cost effectively so

2:01:31 ↗ that would be it would be good to have

2:01:33 ↗ all of those cost options with with the

2:01:35 ↗ added space as well that's necessary for

2:01:37 ↗ the different door

2:01:40 ↗ options and I'll just add to that to

2:01:42 ↗ clarify I think one of the things that

2:01:44 ↗ we heard during the tour was that we

2:01:48 ↗ realized after building that station

2:01:50 ↗ that we didn't necessarily need need the

2:01:52 ↗ bfold doors on the back on the entry

2:01:54 ↗ point and so I'm not sure if that um is

2:01:58 ↗ included in this idea as well um Deputy

2:02:02 ↗ council president de Michelle just to

2:02:04 ↗ add to what uh council member um hunt

2:02:07 ↗ was saying at what point does the

2:02:10 ↗ council talk about all the things we

2:02:13 ↗ know what the what efr would like in it

2:02:16 ↗ and and we understand the need very much

2:02:18 ↗ the tour was very very helpful but at

2:02:20 ↗ what point do we talk about what the

2:02:22 ↗ council would like to have in this

2:02:24 ↗ farest station and I'm thinking

2:02:25 ↗ particularly about do we do we want

2:02:27 ↗ Community rooms do we want places where

2:02:30 ↗ the community can meet is this the

2:02:32 ↗ appropriate place or do we want those

2:02:35 ↗ kinds of things somewhere else or do we

2:02:37 ↗ not want them at all uh I don't know

2:02:39 ↗ that we've had that conversation in

2:02:41 ↗ depth and there might be other amenities

2:02:43 ↗ that we think well we would really like

2:02:45 ↗ to have that or we don't want to have

2:02:46 ↗ that you know we it's still it's still

2:02:49 ↗ difficult to make a decision going

2:02:52 ↗ forward when not really clear exactly

2:02:55 ↗ what this is going to provide for the

2:02:58 ↗ community so and we're looking for

2:03:00 ↗ Council Direction tonight on whether to

2:03:02 ↗ proceed with some of that further work

2:03:04 ↗ so that includes Community engagement to

2:03:06 ↗ see what the community would like and

2:03:08 ↗ would prefer in a fire station uh as

2:03:10 ↗ well as the improvements to police uh

2:03:13 ↗ and then we'll be coming back to council

2:03:14 ↗ with some of that input for further

2:03:16 ↗ discussion as we're refining design

2:03:18 ↗ options and costs

2:03:23 ↗ okay so finalizing any questions

2:03:26 ↗ remaining from the council I know we've

2:03:28 ↗ seen this many times so we're probably

2:03:31 ↗ more eager about the feedback portion um

2:03:34 ↗ I will see if we've got anybody online

2:03:36 ↗ for public comment we do not have anyone

2:03:39 ↗ in the room for remaining for public

2:03:42 ↗ comment um so if anybody's online star

2:03:45 ↗ three on the phone or on a smartphone or

2:03:48 ↗ desktop um you can use the raiseed hand

2:03:50 ↗ icon CL do we have anyone indicating a

2:03:53 ↗ desire to

2:03:55 ↗ speak no council president no one has

2:03:57 ↗ indicated a desire to speak okay well

2:04:00 ↗ you can always email us um okay this is

2:04:04 ↗ a big conversation um and a lot of

2:04:08 ↗ discussion points so uh Deputy council

2:04:10 ↗ president and I kind of pulled together

2:04:13 ↗ some of the things that we've heard from

2:04:15 ↗ council members and individual

2:04:18 ↗ conversations or most importantly on the

2:04:20 ↗ dis at other meetings

2:04:22 ↗ and we kind of felt like there were

2:04:24 ↗ three core themes of um having a

2:04:29 ↗ conversation around this which was kind

2:04:31 ↗ of the

2:04:33 ↗ locations um maybe four them City Hall

2:04:37 ↗ um planning deferred maintenance and

2:04:40 ↗ bond or paying for it so I'm wondering

2:04:44 ↗ if everybody would feel comfortable

2:04:46 ↗ starting on kind of the location

2:04:48 ↗ conversations um how do we feel about

2:04:52 ↗ the proposed eper site do what do we

2:04:56 ↗ think about the proposal to move

2:04:59 ↗ Court how do we feel about City Hall um

2:05:05 ↗ moving to a rental do we feel like there

2:05:07 ↗ needs to be a Consolidated

2:05:10 ↗ campus anybody have any large feelings

2:05:14 ↗ on all of this some remarks I do um I

2:05:20 ↗ don't think it will come as a surprise

2:05:22 ↗ uh I'm not sold on relocating the

2:05:25 ↗ current station I'm not sold I'm very

2:05:27 ↗ much not sold on the new location being

2:05:29 ↗ an improvement I'm not sold on leasing

2:05:32 ↗ an administrative facility I'm not sold

2:05:35 ↗ on leasing Court facilities I believe

2:05:38 ↗ that none of this more important than

2:05:41 ↗ any doubts I may have on those four

2:05:43 ↗ individual items I'm not interested in

2:05:46 ↗ solving any of those problems uh before

2:05:49 ↗ we have a plan for what to do about a

2:05:50 ↗ city hall I I hear that we could

2:05:52 ↗ potentially put a city hall where the

2:05:53 ↗ current fire station is located we need

2:05:56 ↗ to have that conversation I'm not

2:05:57 ↗ willing to spend 8 to 10 years of

2:06:00 ↗ throwing money into a pit to lease

2:06:03 ↗ facilities someplace else that's not

2:06:04 ↗ being a good Financial Steward to the

2:06:06 ↗ people of of isqua um we need to have

2:06:09 ↗ these conversations uh I'm just not

2:06:11 ↗ willing to have I'm not willing to

2:06:13 ↗ support anything like that until we know

2:06:16 ↗ what we're going to do about a city hall

2:06:17 ↗ the only piece of it that I think

2:06:19 ↗ qualifies as uh

2:06:22 ↗ and so urgent to preempt that

2:06:24 ↗ conversation is improvements to the ipds

2:06:26 ↗ facility uh securing the facility and

2:06:29 ↗ and making that facility uh competitive

2:06:31 ↗ with other uh police departments in the

2:06:33 ↗ area so that we can keep uh the the ipd

2:06:37 ↗ folks that we have that's the only bit

2:06:38 ↗ of it that I'm willing to potentially

2:06:40 ↗ support ahead of figuring out what we do

2:06:42 ↗ about a city hall thank

2:06:45 ↗ you okay I'm going to add in here I did

2:06:48 ↗ receive um an email from council member

2:06:52 ↗ Ray um who kind of responded to some of

2:06:55 ↗ these things so if everybody's okay I'll

2:06:58 ↗ just throw in um he had said um fire

2:07:02 ↗ station 71 was not intended to fill the

2:07:04 ↗ role that is currently in it has been

2:07:06 ↗ retrofitted to make it work but is

2:07:08 ↗ clearly suboptimal and not meeting the

2:07:10 ↗ needs of epher firefighters a new

2:07:12 ↗ station has been contemplated for some

2:07:14 ↗ time I support building a new fire

2:07:16 ↗ station as um I do not think further

2:07:19 ↗ remodeling of the current station will

2:07:21 ↗ get a s we need to be not 100% sold on

2:07:23 ↗ the location I know there are limited

2:07:25 ↗ places we could put the station but we

2:07:26 ↗ need to be a bit more creative are there

2:07:28 ↗ City owned Parcels that we have not

2:07:30 ↗ looked at um he did say he was

2:07:34 ↗ comfortable with the court a purpose

2:07:36 ↗ built a built to purpose Court such as

2:07:38 ↗ the King County District Court would be

2:07:40 ↗ greatly preferable to the current setup

2:07:42 ↗ question of location and proximity to

2:07:44 ↗ the jail is a question for the municipal

2:07:46 ↗ court and police department to address

2:07:48 ↗ um and then regarding City Hall didn't

2:07:51 ↗ feel like it was important to have a

2:07:53 ↗ Consolidated campus or to choose a

2:07:56 ↗ Target location now and is comfortable

2:08:00 ↗ with renting but that we should have a

2:08:03 ↗ Target end in mind might be an end that

2:08:05 ↗ is several years out and it might have

2:08:06 ↗ some variability but we should have a

2:08:08 ↗ planning Target so just trying to

2:08:11 ↗ incorporate his voice into the

2:08:13 ↗ conversation since he took the time to

2:08:16 ↗ um make comments over

2:08:17 ↗ email I will take any other comments

2:08:20 ↗ deputy council president D Michelle okay

2:08:25 ↗ thanks uh well first of all I really

2:08:27 ↗ want to say that I have no doubt that we

2:08:30 ↗ need uh to do something uh for sure um

2:08:34 ↗ the the tour of the fire station um just

2:08:38 ↗ demonstrated to me totally that that is

2:08:40 ↗ not an adequate space in fact

2:08:43 ↗ that's yeah I I I will watch my language

2:08:46 ↗ so it it that is just not a place where

2:08:48 ↗ I want to house our

2:08:50 ↗ firefighters um and then it has many um

2:08:53 ↗ you know response problems with it as

2:08:55 ↗ well however that that said and also the

2:08:58 ↗ police department I agree with council

2:09:00 ↗ member Marts uh uh we've got to do

2:09:02 ↗ something there too so there's no doubt

2:09:05 ↗ we have to do something but I agree with

2:09:06 ↗ council member Marts that we have got to

2:09:09 ↗ have a picture of the big plan and I

2:09:12 ↗ don't feel like we've got that yet um I

2:09:15 ↗ I feel like if we move forward with some

2:09:19 ↗ narrow decisions that we're going to for

2:09:21 ↗ close some other decisions that need to

2:09:23 ↗ be made later and also I think our

2:09:26 ↗ community deserves to know exactly uh

2:09:30 ↗ where we're going and the count the

2:09:33 ↗ county the council and the community

2:09:35 ↗ need to weigh in on what do we need from

2:09:37 ↗ this so uh I am in agreement that we've

2:09:41 ↗ got to have a bigger Vision here we've

2:09:43 ↗ got to have a plan for all of the needs

2:09:46 ↗ that we have um and including some that

2:09:49 ↗ I will talk about under deferred

2:09:50 ↗ maintenance

2:09:51 ↗ so

2:09:54 ↗ um you know we got here because people

2:09:57 ↗ deferred doing something for a long

2:10:01 ↗ time that far station something should

2:10:03 ↗ have been done 15 years ago I mean that

2:10:05 ↗ is just indescribably bad and so

2:10:09 ↗ um but we're stuck here and I think we

2:10:12 ↗ can't rush into decisions because we

2:10:16 ↗ know that that is urgent because we've

2:10:17 ↗ got to make good decisions that are

2:10:19 ↗ going to last for a long time into the

2:10:21 ↗ future and I don't think we're there yet

2:10:26 ↗ so okay council member

2:10:29 ↗ Hall um shair we're talking location

2:10:32 ↗ first is that right um well first and

2:10:35 ↗ foremost I completely agree about police

2:10:37 ↗ station I think the argument has been

2:10:39 ↗ made incredibly compelling for the most

2:10:41 ↗ part we're probably all in the exact

2:10:43 ↗ same boote about that um same with the

2:10:45 ↗ fire station I actually uh Deputy

2:10:48 ↗ council president I think that was an

2:10:49 ↗ interesting point because my my read

2:10:53 ↗ is we're reading the same things but I'm

2:10:55 ↗ actually getting a completely different

2:10:57 ↗ sense in the two my read of the phased

2:11:00 ↗ approach is that it allows opportunities

2:11:02 ↗ to continue to be there doors don't

2:11:04 ↗ close um that we don't rush decisions so

2:11:08 ↗ so I guess here's what I'm thinking we

2:11:09 ↗ could start with fire stations so first

2:11:11 ↗ of all we asked staff to look into what

2:11:13 ↗ it would take to renovate the current

2:11:14 ↗ site seems clear to me that it would be

2:11:17 ↗ too costly and too inconvenient to

2:11:19 ↗ convert this into a temporary station

2:11:21 ↗ with

2:11:21 ↗ apparatus parked outside don't want to

2:11:23 ↗ do that

2:11:25 ↗ um I think it's important for us to ask

2:11:28 ↗ questions and ensure we're making the

2:11:29 ↗ right decisions but we also need to rely

2:11:31 ↗ on the experience of fire service

2:11:32 ↗ professionals right and the

2:11:34 ↗ professionals their conclusion based on

2:11:36 ↗ their experience based on the

2:11:37 ↗ availability of land um and cost of Land

2:11:41 ↗ Based on arguably urgent needs from what

2:11:43 ↗ we saw um they think that this site

2:11:46 ↗ checks all the boxes so um I am

2:11:49 ↗ interested in kind of what you were

2:11:51 ↗ saying earlier about what are the

2:11:54 ↗ opportunities for kind of public

2:11:56 ↗ community space in there but my sense is

2:11:58 ↗ this

2:11:59 ↗ would too small of a space for something

2:12:02 ↗ like that but perhaps that's information

2:12:03 ↗ that could back to us at some um with

2:12:07 ↗ regard to court space I do think that

2:12:10 ↗ leasing space from King County District

2:12:12 ↗ Court is good move for our court

2:12:14 ↗ services it seems to have the space that

2:12:16 ↗ we need that we lack it has the Safety

2:12:18 ↗ and Security for staff um

2:12:22 ↗ and users that we lack and it seems that

2:12:25 ↗ the point of collocating court services

2:12:28 ↗ city court services and County PT

2:12:30 ↗ Services is both efficient and user

2:12:32 ↗ friendly um to anyone that lives here in

2:12:34 ↗ isqua or comes to isqua for court

2:12:35 ↗ services so I also think that that makes

2:12:38 ↗ sense as well it's the other

2:12:41 ↗ location and then City Hall that's right

2:12:45 ↗ um oh this gets back to the phased

2:12:48 ↗ approach point so when it comes to

2:12:49 ↗ General gov um and where they should sit

2:12:52 ↗ the proposal this phased approach

2:12:54 ↗ proposal starts with that 5 to eighty

2:12:56 ↗ year window right of lease Bas where we

2:12:59 ↗ continue to monitor the market for

2:13:01 ↗ potential purchase and renovation

2:13:02 ↗ opportunities right and have

2:13:04 ↗ conversations about whether to bond and

2:13:05 ↗ build new um so I guess like the court

2:13:10 ↗ space my concern there would be

2:13:11 ↗ long-term sustainability of funding

2:13:13 ↗ paths but it does give us time to

2:13:14 ↗ consider gives us time to engage more

2:13:17 ↗ with the community and it allows us to

2:13:18 ↗ respond to that urgent Public Safety

2:13:20 ↗ need now while we also still have kind

2:13:22 ↗ of a ramp to continue to make a decision

2:13:24 ↗ about City Hall and what we want to do

2:13:26 ↗ there so I think I think we're agreeing

2:13:29 ↗ on a lot of things and then kind of

2:13:31 ↗ departing on kind of the the phased

2:13:33 ↗ approach um whether that's good or bad

2:13:37 ↗ right whether we want to have a full

2:13:38 ↗ plan now or whether the phase repo

2:13:40 ↗ actually helps us get to that full plan

2:13:42 ↗ where my thoughts

2:13:46 ↗ are council member Joe thank you um

2:13:52 ↗ Autumn if we were to just

2:13:55 ↗ hypothetically um expand the police

2:13:58 ↗ station to police facility to the entire

2:14:02 ↗ city hall facility we would still need

2:14:04 ↗ to move the administration somewhere

2:14:07 ↗ else and we'd be leasing at the $1

2:14:09 ↗ million a year or $800,000 a year rate

2:14:14 ↗ um so we'd be committed to that for the

2:14:17 ↗ 5 to seven years until we found

2:14:18 ↗ something else even if we were just to

2:14:20 ↗ expand the police footage right that's

2:14:24 ↗ correct I believe you were the one that

2:14:26 ↗ had the analogy of kind of that puzzle

2:14:28 ↗ game and all the pieces right uh so yes

2:14:31 ↗ if if you know there's a priority of uh

2:14:34 ↗ enhancing uh the current facility just

2:14:36 ↗ for Police use we have to find a space

2:14:38 ↗ for City Hall to go uh as well as um

2:14:42 ↗ well yeah just for City Hall

2:14:45 ↗ okay so I think I'm more in agreement

2:14:48 ↗ with council member Hall

2:14:51 ↗ that

2:14:53 ↗ um our police professionals have told us

2:14:56 ↗ that they need more space to be

2:14:57 ↗ competitive they need more space to

2:15:00 ↗ properly catalog and keep evidence and

2:15:03 ↗ to keep uh victims safe during

2:15:05 ↗ interviews and to have the community

2:15:07 ↗ space to do the uh classes for regional

2:15:12 ↗ uh police services and so I I I am sold

2:15:15 ↗ on the the need to have City Hall

2:15:18 ↗ expanded and give that fully over to to

2:15:21 ↗ the police as was kind of the

2:15:24 ↗ initial thought and plan when we first

2:15:27 ↗ built that back in 1998 or 99 that as

2:15:31 ↗ isqua got built out and the highlands

2:15:34 ↗ came in we would use that solely for

2:15:37 ↗ police because it was anticipated that

2:15:39 ↗ that would be the space that we would

2:15:40 ↗ probably need so in that sense we're

2:15:43 ↗ fulfilling part of a plan that was

2:15:44 ↗ started when the highlands was started

2:15:47 ↗ and Talis was started um so we're not

2:15:49 ↗ starting from zero but we are starting

2:15:52 ↗ from a deficit certainly agree with that

2:15:54 ↗ um then the question

2:15:58 ↗ becomes the fire uh proposal and and um

2:16:04 ↗ I do agree with council member Hall that

2:16:06 ↗ the professionals have told us that this

2:16:10 ↗ site could work it wouldn't be ideal and

2:16:14 ↗ perfect um but it can serve the needs of

2:16:18 ↗ our community and

2:16:21 ↗ give the facility that our East Side

2:16:25 ↗ Fire and Rescue firefighters uh need

2:16:28 ↗ and uh will will help them fulfill their

2:16:31 ↗ mission in a way that I think our

2:16:34 ↗ citizens would like to see when they

2:16:37 ↗ think of our fire service in town and

2:16:40 ↗ give the police the facility they need

2:16:42 ↗ when they think of you know what is

2:16:45 ↗ Public Safety really mean for me what

2:16:47 ↗ does a reasonable response time mean for

2:16:50 ↗ me etc etc along the way so um I'm of

2:16:55 ↗ the opinion that um we should go forward

2:16:59 ↗ with the phased approach for Oldtown the

2:17:04 ↗ fire station should be in this spot

2:17:08 ↗ unless we find a better or more feasible

2:17:12 ↗ spot it works it's not perfect as I said

2:17:15 ↗ but I think we need to go ahead and do

2:17:19 ↗ that I agree with the police need to

2:17:21 ↗ have their facilities so we're talking

2:17:22 ↗ about a bond for public safety for those

2:17:25 ↗ two along the way and moving the

2:17:28 ↗ administration to a place uh where we

2:17:31 ↗ can still conduct our business and uh do

2:17:34 ↗ the things that we need to do for

2:17:35 ↗ municipal Services um I am encouraged

2:17:39 ↗ that after covid we have more of a rent

2:17:43 ↗ a desk uh capability if you will you

2:17:46 ↗ call in and you say I'd really like to

2:17:48 ↗ have a desk and you reserve it for

2:17:49 ↗ yourself and it is cut down on the space

2:17:52 ↗ that we need for all of our employees

2:17:54 ↗ and makes more efficient use of the

2:17:56 ↗ space that we have so um I hope that the

2:17:59 ↗ administration will continue to find

2:18:01 ↗ ways to consolidate the space make

2:18:03 ↗ better use of it along the way um we're

2:18:06 ↗ making better use of the conference

2:18:09 ↗ rooms that we have because we can

2:18:10 ↗ reserve them and and have better

2:18:11 ↗ planning along the way so perhaps we're

2:18:14 ↗ going to be able to uh keep the cost

2:18:16 ↗ down for the

2:18:18 ↗ administration and maybe we almost go

2:18:21 ↗ down to a mini City Hall concept a

2:18:24 ↗ little bit a little bit like B is doing

2:18:27 ↗ uh with some of their Mini City Halls in

2:18:29 ↗ town it still has uh you know the

2:18:32 ↗ services that you need um it's a smaller

2:18:36 ↗ facility but it it enables us to still

2:18:39 ↗ uh have that touch point for uh

2:18:42 ↗ engagement with the city uh staff but at

2:18:45 ↗ the same time is is um no more

2:18:49 ↗ reasonable in the sense of of the new

2:18:51 ↗ reality that we're in that we're in in

2:18:53 ↗ terms of Co so um that's where I'm

2:18:56 ↗ sitting right now I know it's um kind of

2:18:59 ↗ going for the whole ball of wax but uh I

2:19:03 ↗ think if we're going to do this um and

2:19:05 ↗ really commit to police we have to

2:19:06 ↗ really commit to fire as well and uh go

2:19:09 ↗ out for the bond so that's where I stand

2:19:11 ↗ right

2:19:15 ↗ now anyone else or shall I go

2:19:21 ↗ okay um I'll be I'll be brief I think

2:19:24 ↗ that the next phase for any of this is

2:19:28 ↗ getting some Community feedback um

2:19:30 ↗ Community survey I am concerned about uh

2:19:35 ↗ the the high cost associated with

2:19:38 ↗ um I understand that the uh the fire

2:19:41 ↗ station across the street is um out of

2:19:44 ↗ date and is no longer um serving our

2:19:47 ↗ purposes in a number of ways however it

2:19:49 ↗ is moving it across the street

2:19:52 ↗ essentially and so I am concerned about

2:19:54 ↗ the Public's um perception of that it's

2:19:56 ↗ essentially in the same place but making

2:19:59 ↗ a new building um and so uh I think that

2:20:04 ↗ getting Community feedback Community

2:20:06 ↗ feedback on that would be important um I

2:20:10 ↗ I am concerned about the cost associated

2:20:13 ↗ with all of these things um I think the

2:20:16 ↗ community feedback piece will be will be

2:20:18 ↗ really important um and I also would

2:20:22 ↗ like to explore things like you know the

2:20:24 ↗ sort of smaller city hall or you know

2:20:26 ↗ reflecting that a lot of people are able

2:20:28 ↗ to work online and remote and how do we

2:20:31 ↗ make sure that we're addressing that a

2:20:32 ↗ lot of our audience as the city council

2:20:35 ↗ is is virtual now Etc um and a lot of

2:20:37 ↗ people should be able to do a lot of

2:20:40 ↗ their City Hall tasks virtually um so I

2:20:44 ↗ think I think some creativity and cost

2:20:47 ↗ savings there would be would be good and

2:20:49 ↗ would also help demonstrate to the

2:20:51 ↗ community that we're we're really

2:20:53 ↗ looking to make sure that we're doing

2:20:54 ↗ this as cost effective as

2:20:59 ↗ possible okay so I'll I'll throw my

2:21:01 ↗ ideas in there

2:21:04 ↗ regarding need and locations um for need

2:21:09 ↗ as I've said multiple times before I I

2:21:12 ↗ think we have very

2:21:15 ↗ clearly um demonstrated the need for

2:21:18 ↗ both East Side Fire and Rescue and the

2:21:20 ↗ isqua police department

2:21:24 ↗ um it is rather shameful that we have

2:21:27 ↗ let it get to this point and I I think

2:21:31 ↗ these needs are extreme and if the

2:21:34 ↗ community could see that

2:21:36 ↗ um gosh okay

2:21:40 ↗ um I I think the concern about putting

2:21:43 ↗ East Side Fire and Rescue directly

2:21:46 ↗ across the street on an area um that

2:21:48 ↗ already has existing problems with

2:21:50 ↗ traffic

2:21:51 ↗ um is harder to swallow but given that

2:21:56 ↗ the professionals have talked to us

2:21:58 ↗ about um call response times and um

2:22:01 ↗ desired locations as we grow I have to

2:22:04 ↗ trust that I have to trust um the

2:22:07 ↗ administration and Architects that that

2:22:11 ↗ have looked at the site and said the

2:22:12 ↗ parcel fits um

2:22:15 ↗ so I think we have cleared that hurdle

2:22:19 ↗ for me

2:22:22 ↗ um similar with court I think uh

2:22:27 ↗ particularly seeing the King County

2:22:29 ↗ Court over there and recognizing oh my

2:22:31 ↗ gosh

2:22:33 ↗ how how dire the need is here compared

2:22:36 ↗ to um the services provided there I

2:22:40 ↗ think that's a no-brainer for us where I

2:22:42 ↗ get

2:22:44 ↗ into concerns is um the idea of doing

2:22:51 ↗ all of

2:22:52 ↗ this without a clear idea and a plan for

2:22:56 ↗ City

2:22:58 ↗ Hall I hear council member Hall what you

2:23:01 ↗ said about um they're being open paths

2:23:05 ↗ by taking a little bit of time if we do

2:23:07 ↗ find a place to purchase and renovate

2:23:10 ↗ that could save us a lot of money it

2:23:12 ↗ could be an ideal situation where I get

2:23:16 ↗ concerned about closing doors is a

2:23:20 ↗ decision to put epher here and then not

2:23:25 ↗ having this as an option for a city hall

2:23:29 ↗ idea um and so I that's why I want to

2:23:34 ↗ make sure if

2:23:36 ↗ we're that we have a clear understanding

2:23:41 ↗ of what our best options are for City

2:23:48 ↗ Hall and I I think there's there's a lot

2:23:50 ↗ of question marks and there's a lot of

2:23:52 ↗ good ideas that have been shared here

2:23:54 ↗ about the idea that we're doing a lot

2:23:55 ↗ more remote we could do a small City

2:23:59 ↗ hell idea I we do have land that would

2:24:03 ↗ be available across the street so it's

2:24:05 ↗ not like everything is closed off I just

2:24:09 ↗ it's a very difficult concept for me

2:24:13 ↗ to move out General government

2:24:18 ↗ and not have that forward thinking plan

2:24:21 ↗ I think as a city organization we have

2:24:25 ↗ demonstrated with you know building a

2:24:28 ↗ building that was supposed to be for ipd

2:24:31 ↗ and staying in it oh so long we've got

2:24:35 ↗ East Side Fire and Rescue where that

2:24:38 ↗ building is way

2:24:41 ↗ over use and

2:24:44 ↗ maintenance we have a clear history of

2:24:48 ↗ letting things go on too long

2:24:51 ↗ and not making those decisions on them

2:24:55 ↗ and so that for me is the biggest red

2:24:59 ↗ flag about going into a situation and

2:25:03 ↗ renting with a city hall and not having

2:25:06 ↗ a long-term financing plan location plan

2:25:12 ↗ and just decision making idea on that I

2:25:17 ↗ see a huge potential there of us just

2:25:21 ↗ going into that and continuing to have

2:25:24 ↗ to spend money on that or not be able to

2:25:29 ↗ afford um a future idea

2:25:32 ↗ so I have clear concerns on that that

2:25:35 ↗ being said agree with the idea of giving

2:25:39 ↗ ipd that space I think I'm there on um

2:25:43 ↗ epher and this space I'm there on court

2:25:47 ↗ most of my concerns come around um City

2:25:50 ↗ Hall

2:25:50 ↗ so location Second Time Around uh Deputy

2:25:55 ↗ council president and then council

2:25:56 ↗ member

2:25:57 ↗ Marts okay three observations from our

2:26:01 ↗ tours the first one was just uh going

2:26:05 ↗ around the Redmond government campus and

2:26:08 ↗ seeing how lovely that is how it fits in

2:26:11 ↗ so nicely into that Community granted

2:26:15 ↗ they are a much bigger city than we are

2:26:17 ↗ they have a lot more money than we do

2:26:19 ↗ they also have a giant piece of land and

2:26:22 ↗ we don't have that but again that is

2:26:26 ↗ just a lovely lovely downtown campus and

2:26:30 ↗ gee that's what I'd love to see us have

2:26:32 ↗ and and that requires some planning the

2:26:35 ↗ second observation was our tour of the

2:26:38 ↗ police station which was just wonderful

2:26:41 ↗ our police escort repeated over and over

2:26:44 ↗ again well not perfect but you know it's

2:26:47 ↗ what we'll do we'll do with it's what

2:26:49 ↗ we'll and I just thought I don't want us

2:26:51 ↗ to be saying that 10 years from now I

2:26:53 ↗ don't want our police and our fire to be

2:26:55 ↗ saying well you know it's not perfect

2:26:58 ↗ but we'll make

2:26:59 ↗ do that's just not the outcome that I

2:27:02 ↗ want from this process I want something

2:27:04 ↗ that we're all saying wow this is this

2:27:07 ↗ is great not that we're building a Taj

2:27:10 ↗ Mahal or anything like that but that we

2:27:12 ↗ are really looking at how people use the

2:27:15 ↗ facility and it will be used in a way

2:27:18 ↗ that is is really accommodating to do

2:27:21 ↗ the purposes that we want finally a

2:27:24 ↗ suggestion and that is and and this has

2:27:27 ↗ to do really with not only our thinking

2:27:30 ↗ but our community engagement process

2:27:32 ↗ what if we were to work up like two or

2:27:35 ↗ three

2:27:36 ↗ scenarios um out of this process instead

2:27:39 ↗ of this is the plan with a capital t and

2:27:43 ↗ a capital P but here are some

2:27:45 ↗ possibilities um you know what would it

2:27:48 ↗ look like if we had a mini City Hall

2:27:50 ↗ what would it look like if we had a

2:27:51 ↗ large city hall you know and no parking

2:27:54 ↗ um what if we put uh this uh facility

2:27:58 ↗ somewhere else um you know let's just

2:28:01 ↗ try and think about how could we take

2:28:03 ↗ the elements that we have and the needs

2:28:05 ↗ that we have and mix and match and see

2:28:07 ↗ what kind of scenarios we could come up

2:28:09 ↗ with um and those are that's the kind of

2:28:12 ↗ thing that we can also when we're doing

2:28:14 ↗ community engagement instead of saying

2:28:16 ↗ here's the plan to the community and do

2:28:18 ↗ you like it or don't you like it it but

2:28:20 ↗ here's some possibilities which of these

2:28:23 ↗ scenarios do you like the best so just a

2:28:26 ↗ thought that maybe that would help us

2:28:28 ↗ open up our thinking a little bit so

2:28:32 ↗ council member MZ thank you council

2:28:34 ↗ president um you know I I I think we've

2:28:37 ↗ already closed some doors uh I think the

2:28:41 ↗ decision to sell City Hall Northwest at

2:28:43 ↗ 24 you know a a parcel that had a 24,000

2:28:48 ↗ foot building on it um we can we can all

2:28:51 ↗ say that we didn't love that building um

2:28:54 ↗ but it uh was was a parcel that once you

2:28:57 ↗ sell it um our problem of not having

2:28:59 ↗ enough real estate uh doesn't get any

2:29:02 ↗ better and so I I think that this idea

2:29:06 ↗ that we can wait we all see the

2:29:09 ↗ incredible ballooning costs I have no

2:29:12 ↗ confidence that trying to build a city

2:29:14 ↗ hall in eight or 10 years is is going to

2:29:16 ↗ be any more financially achievable than

2:29:18 ↗ it is today in fact I rather suspect

2:29:20 ↗ it'll be more difficult um so this to me

2:29:23 ↗ continues to point to needing to come up

2:29:25 ↗ with a comprehensive solution um you

2:29:28 ↗ know we should trust the public to

2:29:30 ↗ engage the public on this I think we're

2:29:32 ↗ just afraid of a of a bigger tab but if

2:29:36 ↗ we tell the public look this is what

2:29:38 ↗ we're doing and we're going to get a

2:29:39 ↗ great police station and we're going to

2:29:41 ↗ get a great fire station maybe it's

2:29:44 ↗ adding property to the existing location

2:29:47 ↗ and and the city expanding the parcel

2:29:50 ↗ where the station is currently located

2:29:52 ↗ to do remodeling in place I don't know I

2:29:54 ↗ don't know what the solution is but you

2:29:56 ↗ know we have a lot of land in when this

2:30:00 ↗ conversation about oh we don't have any

2:30:02 ↗ land we do but we have whether we've

2:30:05 ↗ said it or not taken certain things off

2:30:07 ↗ the table right we have a Commons uh

2:30:10 ↗ adjacent to this facility that is large

2:30:14 ↗ and I believe there was a time when

2:30:16 ↗ there was a plan to have a city hall

2:30:18 ↗ directly north of where the community

2:30:21 ↗ center is currently now it may well be

2:30:23 ↗ that if we talk to the public they say

2:30:24 ↗ no we'd rather we'd rather take a little

2:30:27 ↗ bit higher taxes uh or or uh property

2:30:31 ↗ tax to keep that Commons green maybe

2:30:34 ↗ they say that maybe they don't maybe

2:30:36 ↗ they say use use some of that land uh to

2:30:38 ↗ build a city hall there but I have faith

2:30:41 ↗ that if we talk to the community and we

2:30:43 ↗ say this is what we need going forward

2:30:45 ↗ for a city for a city hall for our

2:30:47 ↗ police for our fire um I confidence that

2:30:50 ↗ if we come to the public with a strong

2:30:52 ↗ argument well thought out that they will

2:30:54 ↗ respond well to it rather than pushing

2:30:57 ↗ the problem down a number of years which

2:31:00 ↗ just feels wrong thank

2:31:05 ↗ you okay so it seems like we've gotten

2:31:08 ↗ some feedback on

2:31:12 ↗ locations I'm not sure there was much

2:31:15 ↗ agreement on any of that so I'm

2:31:18 ↗ wondering if there are any maybe I will

2:31:22 ↗ ask the

2:31:23 ↗ administration to summarize what you

2:31:26 ↗ have heard or maybe I take it back

2:31:29 ↗ to does anybody want to really get into

2:31:32 ↗ this because I don't want to leave this

2:31:35 ↗ and

2:31:36 ↗ not really have some resolution or not

2:31:39 ↗ decision- making but clear feedback uh

2:31:42 ↗ go ahead council member

2:31:44 ↗ hunt so on location it seems like there

2:31:48 ↗ there were multiple opinions but it

2:31:50 ↗ seems like there were uh I think a

2:31:53 ↗ majority of us that were concerned about

2:31:56 ↗ the lack of specificity of location or

2:32:00 ↗ options for location for City Hall um

2:32:03 ↗ and so I I think that might be a

2:32:06 ↗ direction as long as we can make sure

2:32:08 ↗ that that I'm correct in summarizing

2:32:11 ↗ that um but that did seem like one of

2:32:13 ↗ the things that we multiple of us had

2:32:16 ↗ some concern about let me also see if I

2:32:19 ↗ can

2:32:20 ↗ um add to that because I think that's a

2:32:22 ↗ good good sense of what we heard um

2:32:28 ↗ Court do we have any sense of agreement

2:32:33 ↗ that the King County location is the

2:32:36 ↗ right way to go there I think I heard at

2:32:39 ↗ least

2:32:41 ↗ three anybody have any problems with

2:32:45 ↗ that council member marks oh yeah yeah u

2:32:49 ↗ i mean this this facility is not a great

2:32:52 ↗ facility uh it's outlived its usefulness

2:32:55 ↗ um as a court facility but if you say is

2:32:58 ↗ it a crisis no it's not a crisis I also

2:33:01 ↗ don't believe I've seen a clear um the

2:33:04 ↗ clear economics of moving to the to the

2:33:07 ↗ King County facility and exactly how it

2:33:09 ↗ looks in terms of what we save in terms

2:33:11 ↗ of uh you know what it costs us versus

2:33:14 ↗ what we save in efficiencies those kinds

2:33:16 ↗ of things I would want to know that kind

2:33:19 ↗ of information

2:33:20 ↗ but I also lump it into this category of

2:33:22 ↗ not wanting to if it's not a crisis and

2:33:25 ↗ the only part of it that appears to me

2:33:27 ↗ and and look I I want a new fire station

2:33:29 ↗ I we should build a new fire station but

2:33:31 ↗ what's in crisis right now is just the

2:33:33 ↗ ipds facility and so until we address

2:33:36 ↗ the city hall piece I'm not willing to

2:33:38 ↗ address anything that's not a crisis

2:33:40 ↗ this building is not a crisis they could

2:33:41 ↗ keep using this facility it's not great

2:33:43 ↗ but it's worked for the 15 years that

2:33:45 ↗ I've been on Council and it'll keep

2:33:47 ↗ working if it has to um the crisis is

2:33:49 ↗ the ipd

2:33:54 ↗ thanks I have some thoughts on that I

2:34:00 ↗ think we took tours of other

2:34:04 ↗ facilities that were not perfect they

2:34:07 ↗ were not state-of-the-art they were not

2:34:10 ↗ Taj mahals but they

2:34:14 ↗ were

2:34:16 ↗ so

2:34:18 ↗ clearly used

2:34:20 ↗ useful and

2:34:23 ↗ maintained and I think we as a city

2:34:27 ↗ really need to pull up our bootstraps

2:34:31 ↗ and recognize that we are not a town of

2:34:33 ↗ 10,000 people

2:34:37 ↗ that should be having our employees work

2:34:41 ↗ in a situation like this this is

2:34:45 ↗ embarrassing this is a

2:34:47 ↗ incredibly incredibly

2:34:50 ↗ difficult way to try and recruit and

2:34:53 ↗ retain

2:34:54 ↗ employees and I don't ever want our

2:34:59 ↗ situation to get to the point where

2:35:02 ↗ we're only addressing

2:35:05 ↗ crises we have a responsibility to our

2:35:08 ↗ residents and our employees and our

2:35:10 ↗ taxpayers to maintain what we have to

2:35:14 ↗ create a good working

2:35:16 ↗ environment and not to get so

2:35:20 ↗ behind that we are creating a

2:35:25 ↗ situation that we can call this not a

2:35:29 ↗ crisis so I I'm sorry I feel very

2:35:33 ↗ strongly about how we should be

2:35:36 ↗ maintaining our buildings but I will

2:35:38 ↗ take a step back on that not let myself

2:35:41 ↗ get up on the high

2:35:42 ↗ horse what what I think I heard then is

2:35:47 ↗ do we have agreement of the sense

2:35:51 ↗ that there are still concerns about City

2:35:54 ↗ Hall and long-term location is that

2:35:57 ↗ feedback we feel we can give to the

2:36:01 ↗ administration any problems with

2:36:05 ↗ that yes um first the other part I agree

2:36:10 ↗ with the comments you just made the

2:36:11 ↗ other part of that too is and we've

2:36:13 ↗ heard this from staff we've talked about

2:36:14 ↗ up here on the Das to that everything

2:36:16 ↗ costs more tomorrow than it does today

2:36:18 ↗ or next year than it does today so the

2:36:21 ↗ decision to be investing in a new fire

2:36:25 ↗ station now rather than a few years from

2:36:27 ↗ now seems prudent it seems like so

2:36:29 ↗ that's kind of the other side of that

2:36:30 ↗ argument in terms of support for moving

2:36:33 ↗ a or building a new fire station um I

2:36:36 ↗ mean I guess what you just summarize

2:36:38 ↗ would

2:36:39 ↗ capture what seems like the majority I

2:36:42 ↗ don't feel that I feel like the

2:36:43 ↗ Administration has carefully

2:36:45 ↗ structured um next steps for us to be

2:36:49 ↗ able to have to set up the city hall

2:36:51 ↗ conversation to go to a task force and

2:36:53 ↗ say there are opportunities former

2:36:56 ↗ station 71 is a good candidate the space

2:36:59 ↗ in between that council member Mars was

2:37:01 ↗ just talking about over here is as a

2:37:02 ↗ potential candidate and have that

2:37:04 ↗ conversation with community and while at

2:37:06 ↗ the same time again looking at the

2:37:08 ↗ market for opportunities that come up I

2:37:10 ↗ understand the nature of your concerned

2:37:11 ↗ too I just think I'm not as concern

2:37:14 ↗ leasing makes a log makes logical set

2:37:17 ↗ step while we continue to have

2:37:20 ↗ um so maybe I mean that could be the

2:37:22 ↗ majority but wanted to make sure sa yeah

2:37:26 ↗ and I think what you say does align with

2:37:28 ↗ what we heard from council member Ray so

2:37:30 ↗ there's a little bit of um mixed

2:37:32 ↗ opinions but maybe one thing that would

2:37:35 ↗ help assuage and kind of answer some of

2:37:38 ↗ the concerns is to lay out some of the

2:37:42 ↗ options um that we could do for a city

2:37:45 ↗ hall idea um as far as a location and

2:37:50 ↗ give us some sense of some of those

2:37:52 ↗ Concepts that have been or would be

2:37:55 ↗ considered okay so it's a focus on

2:37:57 ↗ location for City Hall not on the any

2:37:59 ↗ funding mechanism we haven't gotten to

2:38:01 ↗ the funding

2:38:02 ↗ one yeah yep yep okay um so the the next

2:38:10 ↗ idea that we kind of brought up um was

2:38:12 ↗ this concept of um deferred maintenance

2:38:16 ↗ and there's a lot there including what I

2:38:19 ↗ was just saying about um all of the

2:38:22 ↗ Deferred maintenance um let's see I said

2:38:27 ↗ in my email how do we factor into the

2:38:29 ↗ facilities conversation the backlog of

2:38:31 ↗ Maintenance needs on city-owned

2:38:32 ↗ properties used by US or leased by

2:38:35 ↗ others including nonprofits or

2:38:38 ↗ for-profits Deputy council

2:38:40 ↗ president thank you so um yes this has

2:38:44 ↗ been something and I think you've heard

2:38:45 ↗ me say it you know many times that is

2:38:48 ↗ really really concerning to me

2:38:50 ↗ so um I did send everybody a link to the

2:38:54 ↗ facilities condition assessment that we

2:38:56 ↗ received in November and uh just uh just

2:39:00 ↗ I'm going to just capture the first few

2:39:03 ↗ pages of it but um the total assessment

2:39:07 ↗ on 27 buildings that we own uh was that

2:39:11 ↗ we have about 23 thou wow I wish $23,400

2:39:16 ↗ th000 in uh deferred maintenance on

2:39:19 ↗ those projects so I sat today and did my

2:39:23 ↗ calculations and of course you know the

2:39:25 ↗ caveat is there are my calculations and

2:39:27 ↗ I just rounded up to just a general uh

2:39:31 ↗ number but if I take out the big ticket

2:39:34 ↗ items like City Hall and and all the

2:39:36 ↗ other things that we're looking at it

2:39:38 ↗ still comes down to $1,800,000 of

2:39:41 ↗ deferred maintenance on um on I would

2:39:45 ↗ say 22 of our buildings and of the 27

2:39:50 ↗ buildings that were rated by that study

2:39:53 ↗ 16 were rated as poor and one of them

2:39:56 ↗ was poor with red marking on it and that

2:40:00 ↗ was our uh Public Works um

2:40:03 ↗ administration building and six were

2:40:05 ↗ rated fairs so out of 27 buildings that

2:40:07 ↗ were rated 22 of them are in Jeopardy

2:40:12 ↗ and the every year that we defer the

2:40:15 ↗ maintenance on those they get worse and

2:40:17 ↗ worse and worse and so so in addition to

2:40:20 ↗ the things that we've been talking about

2:40:22 ↗ uh we are looking at a a multi-million

2:40:25 ↗ dollar um scenario where we have to

2:40:29 ↗ decide what we're going to do with these

2:40:30 ↗ buildings it may be that we decide to

2:40:32 ↗ sell them it may be that we decide that

2:40:35 ↗ these are worth saving and these are not

2:40:38 ↗ um but whatever it is right now we don't

2:40:40 ↗ have a plan going forward um and I I

2:40:43 ↗ don't mean to preempt the administration

2:40:46 ↗ you may have comments on on you know

2:40:48 ↗ maybe we are looking at what we're going

2:40:50 ↗ to do with those buildings but uh I want

2:40:53 ↗ to get it on the table for three reasons

2:40:55 ↗ because we are um we're discussing um

2:40:59 ↗ what we're going to put on the bond or

2:41:00 ↗ what we might end up putting on a bond

2:41:03 ↗ and so I want to make sure that the

2:41:05 ↗ public understands that we've got some

2:41:07 ↗ very large expenses in front of us first

2:41:10 ↗ secondly I want to raise the question of

2:41:13 ↗ are there other facilities in our

2:41:18 ↗ portfolio that we could also place on a

2:41:21 ↗ bond U maybe they would fit in with a

2:41:23 ↗ public safety maybe they would fit in

2:41:25 ↗ with just a general uh maintenance or

2:41:28 ↗ repair um the school district has done

2:41:31 ↗ remodeling uh Bonds in the past um but

2:41:36 ↗ at least be thinking about and the

2:41:38 ↗ reason I'm asking it now is because the

2:41:40 ↗ public does not like to have uh any

2:41:44 ↗ government organization come back and

2:41:46 ↗ back and back and back so uh we don't

2:41:48 ↗ want to have a this Bond and then this

2:41:50 ↗ Bond later for this and this Bond later

2:41:52 ↗ for that and so forth so or at least

2:41:54 ↗ that's not an ideal situation so that's

2:41:57 ↗ reason I'm trying to raise it now if any

2:41:59 ↗ of those buildings needed to go on a

2:42:01 ↗ bond so that we could repair them or

2:42:03 ↗ replace them or whatever uh now is the

2:42:06 ↗ time for us to be thinking about that um

2:42:10 ↗ and uh again with the scenario uh that I

2:42:13 ↗ was talking about before are there

2:42:15 ↗ scenarios where we would want to add

2:42:17 ↗ those in or not so

2:42:19 ↗ um I think this is uh very much the

2:42:23 ↗ theme that we've talked about tonight

2:42:25 ↗ and that is that a lot of maintenance

2:42:27 ↗ issues have been deferred um and not

2:42:30 ↗ even addressed for for decades and uh

2:42:34 ↗ when we have buildings that are rated

2:42:36 ↗ poor or only fair uh out of our whole

2:42:39 ↗ portfolio we have that many that are in

2:42:41 ↗ poor condition that just speaks to the

2:42:44 ↗ fact that we again we have a major

2:42:46 ↗ outlay of funds that we need to address

2:42:49 ↗ so um thanks to um the administration

2:42:53 ↗ and to uh Council princip Walsh for uh

2:42:56 ↗ I'm helping me get this on the agenda

2:42:59 ↗ and maybe that you will say well this

2:43:01 ↗ isn't something that we want to address

2:43:03 ↗ right now but I just think it needs to

2:43:05 ↗ be in the mix because um it's just part

2:43:09 ↗ of a pattern that's occurred uh where we

2:43:12 ↗ are not maintaining the buildings that

2:43:13 ↗ we own so there we

2:43:17 ↗ go um um I will just lay out what I

2:43:21 ↗ heard from council member Ry he said

2:43:23 ↗ deferred maintenance is never a good

2:43:25 ↗ thing we should address it as soon as

2:43:26 ↗ possible as the longer we wait the more

2:43:29 ↗ costly it will become we must do

2:43:31 ↗ deferred maintenance on the facilities

2:43:33 ↗ we

2:43:33 ↗ use but we need to get out of the

2:43:36 ↗ landlord business I would support a

2:43:37 ↗ program to catch up on deferred

2:43:39 ↗ maintenance on our leased out properties

2:43:41 ↗ to get them ready for

2:43:44 ↗ sale council member Mars uh I have been

2:43:48 ↗ asking for 14 years for that

2:43:50 ↗ conversation we never do it uh we should

2:43:53 ↗ have a conversation about I I don't I I

2:43:56 ↗ don't respectfully I don't completely

2:43:57 ↗ agree with Chris uh he wouldn't be

2:43:59 ↗ shocked to hear that it's not that we

2:44:01 ↗ need to get out of the landlord business

2:44:03 ↗ but we should decide which amongst I

2:44:06 ↗ mean I look at this list and there's a

2:44:07 ↗ lot of things on there that I didn't

2:44:09 ↗ even know we owned and we should decide

2:44:11 ↗ what things we want to own and what

2:44:13 ↗ things we don't want to own um and I've

2:44:15 ↗ been asking for that conversation for 14

2:44:17 ↗ years thank you

2:44:21 ↗ anyone

2:44:24 ↗ else M hunt so the last question was

2:44:28 ↗ about uh location I said you know when

2:44:30 ↗ we go to the community we will be asking

2:44:32 ↗ about potentially moving uh the fire

2:44:34 ↗ station across the street um I do think

2:44:37 ↗ that it will be very important therefore

2:44:39 ↗ to make the to explain because they the

2:44:41 ↗ community will not have the opportunity

2:44:43 ↗ like we had to tour the fire station and

2:44:46 ↗ to understand um what would be possible

2:44:49 ↗ with the new Fire Station the capacity

2:44:51 ↗ the response times um so I think it will

2:44:54 ↗ I think that deferred maintenance will

2:44:56 ↗ have to be the benefits of a new fire

2:44:59 ↗ station I think that will have to be

2:45:01 ↗ explained um in a way that really makes

2:45:03 ↗ those benefits clear because they won't

2:45:05 ↗ have the same experience that we've had

2:45:07 ↗ we've all been talking about it as

2:45:09 ↗ though it's sort of obvious to us but

2:45:10 ↗ that's because we've actually seen um

2:45:13 ↗ the facilities and so I think uh for

2:45:16 ↗ location it won't be I think clear

2:45:19 ↗ because it's essentially the same

2:45:20 ↗ location that we're talking about to the

2:45:21 ↗ community about what the benefit is but

2:45:23 ↗ for the differred maintenance and for

2:45:25 ↗ the improvements of the facility

2:45:26 ↗ especially for the fire station I think

2:45:28 ↗ if that's communicated that could be the

2:45:34 ↗ benefit council member Hall thanks um

2:45:37 ↗ well I heard a bunch of kind of areas of

2:45:39 ↗ focus I think in what you said first I

2:45:41 ↗ just want to affirm that you're right

2:45:44 ↗ that you know facilities maintenance is

2:45:47 ↗ really important um it's

2:45:50 ↗ gone um you know we've we've focused on

2:45:53 ↗ other areas of prioritization as a city

2:45:56 ↗ as instead of this but it does need to

2:45:59 ↗ become a priority moving forward I agree

2:46:01 ↗ with you on that too um seems to me that

2:46:04 ↗ it would be a kind of significant

2:46:06 ↗ conversation as we have the capital as

2:46:08 ↗ we update the capital Improvement

2:46:09 ↗ program too and that's kind of part of

2:46:11 ↗ the process but but then there's this

2:46:14 ↗ more structure around a conversation

2:46:16 ↗ that we need to have around going over

2:46:18 ↗ each of the properties and saying is

2:46:19 ↗ there really value in the public is

2:46:21 ↗ there public good in holding this or not

2:46:24 ↗ um and then the other thing that was

2:46:27 ↗ brought up to was around whether or not

2:46:29 ↗ there are potentially some other

2:46:31 ↗ facilities or collection of facilities

2:46:32 ↗ that we own that could potentially be

2:46:34 ↗ placed on a bond as well I think my

2:46:37 ↗ initial reaction would be the public

2:46:39 ↗ safety kind of frame around a bond is

2:46:44 ↗ compelling to voters and we've

2:46:46 ↗ demonstrated the need there um I think

2:46:51 ↗ potentially Community engagement could

2:46:53 ↗ help us guide there are other priorities

2:46:55 ↗ that we want to add to that um and then

2:46:57 ↗ we'll just have to make a decision

2:47:01 ↗ around the end of the cost the impact to

2:47:04 ↗ people at the end of the day because I

2:47:05 ↗ think it was like 200 something dollars

2:47:07 ↗ for just the new fire station in the

2:47:09 ↗ police station improvements right and

2:47:11 ↗ then if we added a new City Halls like

2:47:14 ↗ around double for individual impact

2:47:16 ↗ which

2:47:19 ↗ amount so um all good points that you

2:47:22 ↗ brought up and I'm glad that we're

2:47:23 ↗ having the conversation I just hope that

2:47:25 ↗ we have kind of the venue to have that

2:47:27 ↗ conversation more structured um post

2:47:30 ↗ budget or somehow part of budget I just

2:47:33 ↗ don't know when it fits in but I just

2:47:34 ↗ wanted to affirm to you that I think

2:47:36 ↗ that's a good conversation to

2:47:39 ↗ have m j thank you I would um just plus

2:47:45 ↗ one some of council member Halls

2:47:47 ↗ comments that if we are going to go out

2:47:49 ↗ for a bond we need to keep it as clean

2:47:52 ↗ as possible and as clear as possible

2:47:54 ↗ that it's Public Safety focused unless

2:47:58 ↗ we have a compelling reason to add other

2:48:00 ↗ things the the challenge that we have is

2:48:02 ↗ if we put too many items on there and

2:48:05 ↗ make it a Christmas tree um it's more um

2:48:10 ↗ susceptible to arguments against from

2:48:13 ↗ different angles if it is just Public

2:48:15 ↗ Safety then we are clear in the mission

2:48:18 ↗ we're clear what we want to achieve and

2:48:20 ↗ we can show the result to the community

2:48:22 ↗ once it's done um and so I would I would

2:48:25 ↗ urge my colleagues to um try to keep the

2:48:29 ↗ bond to just Public Safety we do need to

2:48:32 ↗ address the Deferred maintenance uh

2:48:35 ↗ certainly but I think that's a separate

2:48:38 ↗ conversation from um the the bond

2:48:42 ↗ discussion that we're having for

2:48:43 ↗ facilities

2:48:44 ↗ tonight um I would agree however that we

2:48:47 ↗ do need to assess our properties that we

2:48:49 ↗ own and why we own them and what the

2:48:51 ↗ mission is there and is it still

2:48:54 ↗ something that the community buys into

2:48:57 ↗ as something important to support um and

2:49:00 ↗ and do we need a building to support

2:49:02 ↗ that mission or can that mission still

2:49:04 ↗ be achieved without a building itself

2:49:06 ↗ and just community support through

2:49:08 ↗ meeting spaces or rooms or or what have

2:49:10 ↗ you along the way so that to be kind of

2:49:12 ↗ a separate conversation but I I can't

2:49:16 ↗ disagree that it is an important topic

2:49:18 ↗ topic to discuss and we've been

2:49:20 ↗ neglecting it for for far too

2:49:23 ↗ long so I'll throw in there um I think

2:49:27 ↗ the facilities condition assessment

2:49:29 ↗ actually gave me a little bit of Hope

2:49:33 ↗ which is kind of a weird thing to say

2:49:35 ↗ in seeing so much deferred maintenance

2:49:39 ↗ but clearly seeing that the buildings

2:49:42 ↗ that were better taken care of are the

2:49:45 ↗ ones that we use for the most part

2:49:48 ↗ there's certain things like the fire

2:49:50 ↗ station across that have much more

2:49:53 ↗ deferred maintenance but I think one of

2:49:55 ↗ the things that it really indicated to

2:49:57 ↗ me was we probably have a lot of

2:49:59 ↗ properties there that we're not taking

2:50:03 ↗ care of and we have deferred maintenance

2:50:06 ↗ and we should probably consider

2:50:07 ↗ selling so from my perspective I think

2:50:12 ↗ some of that gave me a sense of hey

2:50:15 ↗ there's a real conversation here about

2:50:19 ↗ evaluating whether we should come up to

2:50:21 ↗ speed on the Deferred maintenance or

2:50:24 ↗ whether it is just more in our taxpayer

2:50:29 ↗ and Financial in interest to decide to

2:50:32 ↗ sell those properties um so I think

2:50:35 ↗ that's where I land on

2:50:38 ↗ that anybody I just really quickly

2:50:40 ↗ wanted to Echo I think that's a really

2:50:41 ↗ good distinction because there's the

2:50:43 ↗ conversation about whether or not to

2:50:44 ↗ sell but then there's the policy

2:50:45 ↗ conversation about like whether we're

2:50:47 ↗ intentionally deferring maintenance

2:50:49 ↗ because it's not really something we but

2:50:51 ↗ we think it's important to hold on to

2:50:54 ↗ long term so I just think that was a

2:50:56 ↗ really clever um way to

2:50:59 ↗ think yeah go

2:51:02 ↗ ahead uh just one more thing we I I

2:51:05 ↗ agree I mean uh going back and looking

2:51:07 ↗ at the study um just the fact that we

2:51:10 ↗ have it and we've got that data and we

2:51:13 ↗ can look at it and say oh look this this

2:51:15 ↗ building's going to cost we can start

2:51:17 ↗ looking at the cost cost what do you

2:51:20 ↗ call it the cost benefit ratio uh for

2:51:23 ↗ each building um is it worth keeping is

2:51:25 ↗ it you know can it can it be repurposed

2:51:29 ↗ for something else I mean there are

2:51:31 ↗ several facilities questions that we

2:51:33 ↗ could be asking I guess what I'd be

2:51:35 ↗ asking is that we

2:51:37 ↗ decide if we're not having it under this

2:51:40 ↗ conversation with the bond are we going

2:51:42 ↗ to work it into our budget process are

2:51:44 ↗ we going to work it into our CIP process

2:51:47 ↗ you know let's not let the

2:51:49 ↗ facilities sit for another 5 years while

2:51:51 ↗ we're deciding which direction we're

2:51:53 ↗ going to go on them so because some of

2:51:56 ↗ them basically some of them are going to

2:51:58 ↗ lose just because the maintenance is

2:52:02 ↗ being deferred and nothing is happening

2:52:04 ↗ to improve them so so that would be my

2:52:06 ↗ request is let's decide how we're going

2:52:09 ↗ to go forward on this which is the path

2:52:12 ↗ that we want to or maybe there's

2:52:13 ↗ multiple paths maybe it will come down

2:52:15 ↗ to a building by building process but

2:52:17 ↗ something really needs to move on these

2:52:21 ↗ thanks so I think we've heard that

2:52:24 ↗ there's a lot of interest in better

2:52:26 ↗ understanding what our facility uses

2:52:30 ↗ whether we have long-term plans for them

2:52:33 ↗ um what the plan is for maintenance and

2:52:36 ↗ what the plan is for incorporating them

2:52:39 ↗ maybe into a CIP so maybe a memo maybe a

2:52:43 ↗ response now sure so we've definitely

2:52:45 ↗ started that with the the capital

2:52:47 ↗ Improvement plan and and have identified

2:52:49 ↗ needs for HVAC and flooring and roofs

2:52:53 ↗ Replacements and so you'll see some of

2:52:55 ↗ that already in the CIP and we're

2:52:58 ↗ triaging right this is not all going to

2:53:00 ↗ happen overnight and so we're looking at

2:53:01 ↗ some of the more urgent items including

2:53:04 ↗ improvements to Public Works um uh

2:53:07 ↗ Energy Efficiency projects as well um so

2:53:11 ↗ there's there is plans in place to start

2:53:14 ↗ some of that work on the capital side

2:53:16 ↗ that's separate from these projects I

2:53:18 ↗ did also want to mention there is a lot

2:53:20 ↗ of deferred maintenance for this

2:53:21 ↗ building and for City Hall that we need

2:53:23 ↗ to factor in so for example in the next

2:53:26 ↗ 5 years we'd have to put in at least

2:53:28 ↗ $400,000 of improvements in this

2:53:30 ↗ building to keep it um just kind of

2:53:32 ↗ status quo and then same for City Hall

2:53:35 ↗ it has it needs a midlife renovation no

2:53:37 ↗ matter what the use is and so whether or

2:53:40 ↗ not that becomes fully for police it

2:53:42 ↗ still needs the seismic upgrades and it

2:53:44 ↗ still needs a midlife renovation so we

2:53:46 ↗ we'll still be facing a lot of these

2:53:48 ↗ costs for these buildings

2:53:57 ↗ too thank you um the other thing that I

2:54:00 ↗ heard is we have a lot of properties do

2:54:03 ↗ we have a sense of when we're going to

2:54:05 ↗ do an evaluation and how we might go

2:54:08 ↗ about

2:54:09 ↗ that yes so and and a lot of the items

2:54:12 ↗ that you'll see in our CIP are for the

2:54:14 ↗ buildings that are of highest use not so

2:54:17 ↗ much our rental properties

2:54:18 ↗ there is a proposal that the city take

2:54:20 ↗ on Gibson Hall and that will be included

2:54:23 ↗ um in our budget planning um so we're

2:54:25 ↗ starting with a few of those facilities

2:54:27 ↗ and seeing how that process goes um

2:54:29 ↗ we've also are looking at um um

2:54:32 ↗ recommending surplus of some much

2:54:34 ↗ smaller properties that you know we may

2:54:36 ↗ not necessarily need and so we're

2:54:38 ↗ starting that process but we can have a

2:54:40 ↗ more structured plan for Council um in

2:54:44 ↗ the future uh to look at a lot of those

2:54:46 ↗ other properties so yeah uh I think I've

2:54:49 ↗ definitely heard there is a desire to

2:54:52 ↗ maybe not do one-offs but to really have

2:54:55 ↗ an evaluation and understand um what our

2:54:58 ↗ needs are what our plans

2:55:00 ↗ Etc okay last portion how are we going

2:55:04 ↗ to pay for it always the funnest portion

2:55:09 ↗ of everything um so I think I said how

2:55:14 ↗ do we balance asking for funding of

2:55:16 ↗ immediate needs such as Public Safety

2:55:19 ↗ um which would require potentially

2:55:22 ↗ multiple voter asks for our other needs

2:55:25 ↗ as they come up um against a larger

2:55:28 ↗ single request for

2:55:30 ↗ funding how do we factor in tax fatigue

2:55:33 ↗ in the fact that there's going to be

2:55:34 ↗ multiple agencies asking for

2:55:38 ↗ um funding to voters how do we address

2:55:43 ↗ all of our competing needs and then

2:55:47 ↗ finally how do we consider the public

2:55:49 ↗ process so anybody want to start when it

2:55:52 ↗ comes to

2:55:54 ↗ funding Deputy council

2:55:56 ↗ president just a quick comment so the

2:55:59 ↗ comment was made about the Christmas

2:56:01 ↗ tree

2:56:02 ↗ approach if you go back and look at the

2:56:04 ↗ school district

2:56:06 ↗ bonds the Christmas tree ones the

2:56:08 ↗ largest bonds they went out for got the

2:56:10 ↗ highest voter approval and that's

2:56:14 ↗ because everybody gets something and so

2:56:17 ↗ I that may not work for us uh we're not

2:56:21 ↗ a school district um you know they have

2:56:23 ↗ a builtin uh support mechanism that we

2:56:26 ↗ may not have but at least I I totally

2:56:29 ↗ agree with council member Mars let's not

2:56:31 ↗ be afraid to take this out and ask the

2:56:33 ↗ community and that's what a community

2:56:36 ↗ Advisory Group does they vet those kinds

2:56:38 ↗ of proposals they look at how much they

2:56:40 ↗ think uh the community will tolerate but

2:56:43 ↗ let's not you know I let's not

2:56:45 ↗ underestimate our community and its

2:56:47 ↗ commitment we know we have strong uh

2:56:50 ↗ commitment in this community to Public

2:56:51 ↗ Safety to Fire and Rescue um and so they

2:56:56 ↗ may very well say you know how much can

2:56:59 ↗ we give them not how much money can we

2:57:02 ↗ save so so the Christmas tree approach

2:57:06 ↗ is not necessarily the wrong approach

2:57:09 ↗ thanks that's my remarks General funding

2:57:13 ↗ uh it's almost always a bad idea to

2:57:15 ↗ lease a car it's almost always a bad IDE

2:57:18 ↗ idea to lease an apartment uh versus

2:57:20 ↗ investing and getting equity in the

2:57:23 ↗ things that we're investing in so um in

2:57:26 ↗ general I am much more in favor of uh

2:57:29 ↗ making Investments versus paying rent uh

2:57:31 ↗ to somebody else so that's my

2:57:34 ↗ fundamental position on how we fund

2:57:36 ↗ these things is uh is build equity in

2:57:39 ↗ the in the things that we're spending

2:57:40 ↗ money on rather than just somebody

2:57:43 ↗ else can I push and try and see if I get

2:57:47 ↗ some clarity on that

2:57:48 ↗ so does that suggest that you're more

2:57:51 ↗ interested in getting funding for more

2:57:55 ↗ than just Public Safety in and ask now

2:57:59 ↗ yes that's that's yeah forgive me yes

2:58:02 ↗ that was my that was my point an hour

2:58:03 ↗ ago which is yes we should talk to the

2:58:06 ↗ public about what we need to spend money

2:58:08 ↗ on and tell them I mean if the public

2:58:11 ↗ tells us to go lease okay but let's ask

2:58:14 ↗ the public I think the Public's going to

2:58:16 ↗ come back the public understands it's

2:58:17 ↗ best not to lease cars the public

2:58:19 ↗ understands it's it's best to own your

2:58:21 ↗ home versus renting an apartment I think

2:58:23 ↗ if we say here are the options in front

2:58:25 ↗ of us you want to spend a little bit

2:58:26 ↗ more and have us own a city hall or do

2:58:28 ↗ you want us to kick the problem down a

2:58:31 ↗ decade I trust the public to come back

2:58:33 ↗ and tell us what they the best way to

2:58:35 ↗ use our money okay thank you thanks

2:58:38 ↗ anybody

2:58:44 ↗ else um yep oh yeah me okay okay um

2:58:49 ↗ you're the head

2:58:51 ↗ um I do think um yeah I

2:58:55 ↗ think time to put something on the

2:58:57 ↗ ballot or it's time to have that

2:58:58 ↗ conversation Community um it makes sense

2:59:02 ↗ to include new fire station on that it

2:59:05 ↗ makes sense to include police station

2:59:07 ↗ improvements on that it makes sense to

2:59:09 ↗ ask the question as council member Mars

2:59:11 ↗ was just saying about whether we go big

2:59:15 ↗ and include a Consolidated City Hall

2:59:17 ↗ campus centralization of services in

2:59:19 ↗ this area um that question about or that

2:59:23 ↗ that point about um getting getting more

2:59:26 ↗ out of a facility that we own and

2:59:28 ↗ building Equity over time um but that's

2:59:30 ↗ a question that I go back and forth on

2:59:32 ↗ whether or not to include City Hall in

2:59:34 ↗ that this time um I think the police in

2:59:37 ↗ fire address immediate needs um I think

2:59:41 ↗ no matter what we'll have to lease

2:59:43 ↗ General government space for at least a

2:59:45 ↗ little I don't see how we could um get

2:59:48 ↗ give that building to

2:59:49 ↗ police go out to bond to build a new

2:59:53 ↗ city hall I just don't see how that

2:59:54 ↗ would be finished at the same time so we

2:59:56 ↗ would probably need to leas space for at

2:59:57 ↗ least a little bit though but at least

2:59:59 ↗ we'd have some

3:00:00 ↗ certainty

3:00:02 ↗ um there's like Public Safety I guess

3:00:04 ↗ what I'm trying to say is the public

3:00:06 ↗ safety part has some urgent need to it

3:00:09 ↗ um there's certainly an argument to be

3:00:10 ↗ made that a Consolidated City Hall um is

3:00:14 ↗ timely and in the community's long-term

3:00:16 ↗ best interest um but I go back and forth

3:00:20 ↗ on whether that's a good idea because

3:00:22 ↗ again that's also a lot of money you

3:00:24 ↗ will pay a lot of taxes right now in

3:00:25 ↗ King County I

3:00:27 ↗ know always the thought of another

3:00:29 ↗ County bot measure down um I think the

3:00:32 ↗ argument though of and here's why I keep

3:00:35 ↗ P ponging back and forth because the

3:00:37 ↗ Christmas tree thing is a is a good

3:00:38 ↗ point it has worked I was on the bond

3:00:41 ↗ advisory committee for the school

3:00:42 ↗ district this last um bond that they're

3:00:45 ↗ making um and that was data on that was

3:00:49 ↗ presented to us where they would go out

3:00:51 ↗ on smaller bonds and and then they would

3:00:53 ↗ come back and triple it and it would

3:00:54 ↗ pass be like what um it it is I mean

3:00:58 ↗ they're also you know maintaining their

3:01:00 ↗ rate and making adjustments so it's not

3:01:02 ↗ like a sizable difference like a city

3:01:04 ↗ would so something be might but I do

3:01:07 ↗ think that it's time to start planning

3:01:09 ↗ for that public engagement um and going

3:01:12 ↗ to a ballot measure with new fire with

3:01:16 ↗ police station improvements and then

3:01:17 ↗ asking the question about City

3:01:22 ↗ I council member Joe thank you when we

3:01:26 ↗ started the conversation um I thought I

3:01:29 ↗ was the outlier on the top asking for

3:01:33 ↗ the bond and the fire station in the

3:01:37 ↗ full uh enchilada so to speak but

3:01:40 ↗ hearing my colleagues over here it it

3:01:42 ↗ sounds like they're willing to do the

3:01:45 ↗ full achada potentially and ask the

3:01:47 ↗ question question whether or not

3:01:49 ↗ additional pieces can be put in there

3:01:51 ↗ and if that's the case and we're

3:01:54 ↗ thinking about really having a

3:01:56 ↗ comprehensive plan to take care of this

3:01:58 ↗ I can I can support going out and asking

3:02:01 ↗ that question um if it comes back that

3:02:04 ↗ you know the support

3:02:06 ↗ is not as strong for items that are not

3:02:10 ↗ Public Safety I think we need to just

3:02:12 ↗ pone it down and keep to the basics and

3:02:14 ↗ the fundamentals but I'm happy to ask

3:02:16 ↗ that question if we do decide to go big

3:02:19 ↗ big um you know because that's what the

3:02:23 ↗ committee and the Outreach tells us that

3:02:26 ↗ you know I'm happy to go that direction

3:02:27 ↗ so I hope uh I don't mean any uh harm on

3:02:32 ↗ the Christmas tree uh comment I I just

3:02:35 ↗ want us to succeed in the public safety

3:02:37 ↗ realm first and not necessarily get

3:02:40 ↗ detracted or distracted thank

3:02:46 ↗ you hunt

3:02:48 ↗ thank

3:02:49 ↗ you well I I agree with a lot of what

3:02:53 ↗ I've heard one additional thing that I

3:02:55 ↗ think it would be good to get community

3:02:58 ↗ feedback on is that if we had a bond

3:03:01 ↗ that moved um that relocated the fire

3:03:05 ↗ station over this building this building

3:03:08 ↗ becomes renovated that building then is

3:03:11 ↗ a empty fire station um it's an empty

3:03:14 ↗ fire station right next to our police

3:03:16 ↗ station and it's an empty fire station

3:03:18 ↗ right on our main busy street uh it puts

3:03:22 ↗ us in a strange position because I don't

3:03:24 ↗ think it wouldn't be um wouldn't be

3:03:27 ↗ obvious to me anyway what public benefit

3:03:29 ↗ that would serve once it no longer is a

3:03:32 ↗ fire station um so I do think having

3:03:37 ↗ having an option where

3:03:40 ↗ we include making that a city hall um I

3:03:44 ↗ you know I think I think building in

3:03:47 ↗ that um because that would be an

3:03:49 ↗ additional cost we would need to do

3:03:51 ↗ something with that building um I think

3:03:54 ↗ that would be worth putting the pros and

3:03:57 ↗ cons to the community to explain that to

3:04:00 ↗ them and and see see what they think

3:04:02 ↗ about it um because I think that seems

3:04:04 ↗ like one potential option for City Hall

3:04:06 ↗ in the future and um the alternative

3:04:09 ↗ right now would be that we would have a

3:04:11 ↗ a empty fire station right next to our

3:04:14 ↗ police station and right on Sunset

3:04:17 ↗ okay let me add in what um I heard from

3:04:20 ↗ council member Ry he said I am not

3:04:23 ↗ opposed to asking the voters for

3:04:25 ↗ additional funding as for managing the

3:04:27 ↗ competing priorities that's the purpose

3:04:29 ↗ of the CIP and the banial budget

3:04:31 ↗ historically we've received good input

3:04:34 ↗ from the public on how to fund

3:04:35 ↗ initiatives and I think we continue to

3:04:37 ↗ leverage this process in addition to

3:04:40 ↗ looking for new funding sources I

3:04:41 ↗ believe we should raise Capital by

3:04:43 ↗ selling City properties that we are not

3:04:45 ↗ using so that seems to Echo a lot of um

3:04:49 ↗ what has been said did you want to add

3:04:51 ↗ something yeah I just want to re

3:04:53 ↗ reiterate one of the things I said

3:04:54 ↗ earlier which is I think a lot of the

3:04:56 ↗ benefits of both the internal

3:04:59 ↗ Renovations like allowing the the police

3:05:02 ↗ station to be the entire building and

3:05:03 ↗ then also moving relocating the fire

3:05:05 ↗ station I think a lot of those benefits

3:05:07 ↗ are in the data in terms of the response

3:05:10 ↗ time and in terms of the you know

3:05:11 ↗ additional capacity for for the police

3:05:14 ↗ station um but I I think that will all

3:05:17 ↗ need to be explained um in terms of

3:05:20 ↗ providing that data you know so that the

3:05:22 ↗ community when they're doing these

3:05:23 ↗ surveys so they can understand the the

3:05:25 ↗ cost benefit analysis because that will

3:05:28 ↗ all be kind of behind the the building

3:05:30 ↗ facade for the community they won't they

3:05:33 ↗ they don't know the uh current storage

3:05:38 ↗ conditions in the police station for

3:05:40 ↗ example we've we've had tours but they

3:05:42 ↗ have not so I think that's also

3:05:45 ↗ important okay

3:05:48 ↗ I haven't said anything so I'll go first

3:05:51 ↗ and then you can we can do a second M

3:05:55 ↗ yeah it's on

3:05:57 ↗ um let's see how do I start all of

3:06:02 ↗ this

3:06:04 ↗ I I think if we focus entirely on Public

3:06:08 ↗ Safety we

3:06:10 ↗ are not ignoring or

3:06:15 ↗ but putting aside the fact that to do so

3:06:18 ↗ we're kicking General government out and

3:06:21 ↗ so it really is

3:06:24 ↗ a that need comes about because of this

3:06:28 ↗ situation so I I think there is a true

3:06:31 ↗ connection there there is a true sense

3:06:34 ↗ of need because we need that space and

3:06:39 ↗ we are not in a situation nor would we

3:06:41 ↗ want to put our taxpayers in a situation

3:06:44 ↗ to continue to pay lease long

3:06:48 ↗ term um

3:06:51 ↗ additionally I think it is a terrible

3:06:54 ↗ idea to go out to the

3:06:57 ↗ voters multiple multiple times and we've

3:07:01 ↗ already talked in our Capital task

3:07:04 ↗ planning or cap capital planning task

3:07:07 ↗ force whatever it was um about a park

3:07:12 ↗ district and the needs for the pool and

3:07:15 ↗ things like that we also haven't looked

3:07:18 ↗ at some of our general operations costs

3:07:22 ↗ and um things that we could do there so

3:07:27 ↗ I

3:07:29 ↗ think we're in a worse situation if we

3:07:33 ↗ try and go out for just Public

3:07:37 ↗ Safety Without Really recognizing the

3:07:40 ↗ need of General government at this time

3:07:45 ↗ both because asking

3:07:48 ↗ taxpayers for money on ballots two times

3:07:52 ↗ in a row or very soon

3:07:55 ↗ after seems like we're doing a piss poor

3:07:58 ↗ job it seems like we don't know what

3:08:00 ↗ we're doing and it seems like it's

3:08:02 ↗ nickel and diming it also just doesn't

3:08:05 ↗ reflect the fact that we are literally

3:08:08 ↗ kicking General government out to

3:08:10 ↗ accomplish this and to do so without

3:08:14 ↗ having a plan is a bad financial

3:08:18 ↗ situation and a bad planning

3:08:23 ↗ situation

3:08:27 ↗ so second

3:08:30 ↗ comments go ahead uh I I think somewhere

3:08:35 ↗ in our packet this was put forward as a

3:08:37 ↗ uh one of the questions and I did just

3:08:39 ↗ want to bring um recently uh went to

3:08:43 ↗ lunch with one of our neighboring uh

3:08:45 ↗ council members um and and that

3:08:47 ↗ particular municipality lost a bond

3:08:50 ↗ Mentor not too long ago um and so I said

3:08:53 ↗ what you know what would you've done

3:08:55 ↗ differently and she said we did not hire

3:08:58 ↗ our consultant early enough so I'll just

3:09:01 ↗ throw that out there that uh maybe in

3:09:03 ↗ our planning here we should be starting

3:09:05 ↗ to think about um about that and we've

3:09:10 ↗ talked about the fact that maybe that

3:09:12 ↗ needs to be part of our budget

3:09:14 ↗ discussions for 25 is how much are we

3:09:17 ↗ going to put aside for for a uh a

3:09:21 ↗ consultant uh and that is not a

3:09:23 ↗ consultant for a yes vote campaign

3:09:26 ↗ that's a consultant for the public

3:09:28 ↗ engagement part of it which also

3:09:31 ↗ includes an informational Campaign which

3:09:33 ↗ is so it's we're not talking about

3:09:36 ↗ putting together uh anything that uh

3:09:39 ↗ violates uh PDC rules or anything like

3:09:42 ↗ that

3:09:44 ↗ um so oh the other comment I have is

3:09:49 ↗ we're going to learn a lot from the uh

3:09:52 ↗ election on November 5th about the

3:09:55 ↗ support in our area because that school

3:09:58 ↗ bond will be on that ballot so um I

3:10:01 ↗ think that's going to be something that

3:10:02 ↗ we're going to want to really watch

3:10:05 ↗ analyze and uh figure out where the

3:10:08 ↗ pockets of support were and were not and

3:10:11 ↗ particularly in the precincts that are

3:10:13 ↗ in the city of isqua so I am hoping that

3:10:16 ↗ we won't be making thinking that we'll

3:10:18 ↗ we'll be timing this in such a way that

3:10:21 ↗ we can use the feedback from that

3:10:23 ↗ election to feed into our final decision

3:10:27 ↗ about how much we're going to include

3:10:29 ↗ and all of that but again that is a

3:10:32 ↗ conversation that the community needs to

3:10:34 ↗ hold and bring us you know some

3:10:37 ↗ recommendations so those are my two

3:10:41 ↗ comments a little bit of summary I think

3:10:44 ↗ I heard more support for the idea of

3:10:47 ↗ including General government than maybe

3:10:49 ↗ we've discussed in the past um in the

3:10:53 ↗ bond and kind of planning at this point

3:10:56 ↗ I also heard a lot of conversation about

3:10:59 ↗ talking to the public and utilizing a

3:11:03 ↗ process both in surveying and a

3:11:06 ↗ community task force and a consultant

3:11:09 ↗ and just

3:11:11 ↗ generally making the

3:11:13 ↗ ask um also some sense of hey there are

3:11:18 ↗ probably options out there rather than

3:11:20 ↗ the

3:11:21 ↗ plan does anybody have anything to add

3:11:24 ↗ to

3:11:26 ↗ that okay does that give the feedback on

3:11:31 ↗ funding and locations and kind of

3:11:34 ↗ everything that you need at this

3:11:38 ↗ point I think it does um we have some

3:11:41 ↗ time uh currently allotted on the 27th

3:11:44 ↗ so we would like to take that time and

3:11:47 ↗ come back with some feedback from this

3:11:48 ↗ discussion if that's all

3:11:50 ↗ right

3:11:52 ↗ great great thank you and thank you

3:11:55 ↗ Autumn thank you

3:11:57 ↗ Andrea yes so next step is good to the

3:12:01 ↗ order so I will bring go

3:12:04 ↗ ahead yeah I I just want to mention uh

3:12:07 ↗ this weekend uh former Alona mayor Dave

3:12:10 ↗ Hill died um he had been he was just a

3:12:13 ↗ Titan of the of the local scene he was

3:12:16 ↗ on the SRC executive committee for 9

3:12:19 ↗ years RTC for 10 years RPC for 7 years

3:12:23 ↗ and just one of the nicest people uh to

3:12:25 ↗ ever grace local government so uh uh

3:12:28 ↗ just wanted to send my condolences to

3:12:30 ↗ the people of Alona and uh our political

3:12:33 ↗ sphere is a little poorer for Dave's

3:12:38 ↗ passing okay uh council member Hall just

3:12:41 ↗ really quickly I think Council should

3:12:43 ↗ Echo what the city administrator just

3:12:45 ↗ said um autumn in and jeie and Andrea

3:12:48 ↗ and everyone whove been working and

3:12:50 ↗ breathing facilities for the last couple

3:12:52 ↗ years thank you for all your work thank

3:12:54 ↗ you for your patience with us as we have

3:12:55 ↗ these very challenging conversations as

3:12:58 ↗ well um

3:13:00 ↗ and we appreciate

3:13:03 ↗ you plus one to that always can

3:13:06 ↗ appreciate expressing

3:13:08 ↗ appreciation um I've got a few things on

3:13:12 ↗ go of the order um National Night Out is

3:13:16 ↗ coming up in August I want to make sure

3:13:18 ↗ it's on everybody's

3:13:20 ↗ calendars um and really interested to

3:13:24 ↗ see obviously there's going to be a

3:13:26 ↗ booth for council at the main location

3:13:30 ↗ but seeing if anybody is really

3:13:32 ↗ interested in attending a different

3:13:34 ↗ location if there's a preference for all

3:13:36 ↗ of council that can be there to be at

3:13:38 ↗ one location um get in touch let me know

3:13:42 ↗ if you have a strong preference one way

3:13:44 ↗ or the other um we've got the summer

3:13:48 ↗ employee recognition event on Thursday

3:13:51 ↗ July 25th from 11:30 a.m. to 2: p.m. if

3:13:55 ↗ you are interested in attending they are

3:13:57 ↗ requesting an RSVP there should be an

3:13:59 ↗ email in your inbox on

3:14:01 ↗ that um as City administrator said July

3:14:06 ↗ 27th we have our

3:14:08 ↗ Retreat um we will be sending stuff out

3:14:11 ↗ ahead of that but one of the big topics

3:14:13 ↗ will obviously be the facilities and

3:14:16 ↗ bond and have to pay for it and what the

3:14:18 ↗ next steps are so we look forward to

3:14:20 ↗ continuing that conversation there and

3:14:22 ↗ then if everybody will not run off um I

3:14:26 ↗ need to try on our new jacket we have

3:14:29 ↗ logo wear for council members uh want

3:14:33 ↗ feedback on a few things and then get a

3:14:35 ↗ sense if anybody wants to order

3:14:38 ↗ anything not that you want to wear a

3:14:40 ↗ jacket in July but that is uh when we

3:14:44 ↗ have it available so I believe believe

3:14:47 ↗ that is the end of our agenda so we will

3:14:50 ↗ be adjourned at 9:45 p.m. thank you

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