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Thursday, July 27, 2023

6:30 PM · 1h 19m · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Section
3. REGULAR BUSINESS
3a
Comprehensive Plan: New Regulations
90 min · Stephen Padua, Long Range Planning Manager · packet pp.3–63
Topics: Land Use
Staff report:
The purpose of the July 27, 2023, meeting is to review and discuss the first draft of housing policies for the state required 2024 Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update.
4. REPORTS
4a
Council Update
Stephen Padua, Long Range Planning Manager
5. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
5a
Upcoming Schedule
packet pp.65–66
Staff report:
Planning Policy Commission 2023 Schedule (subject to change) 2022 1/12/23 1/19/23 1/26/23 (Special Meeting) Title 18 – Final Draft Introduction Public Hearing: Title 18 – Final Draft Public Hearing: Title 18 – Final Draft ▪ Part 1 – General Provisions ▪ Part 5 – Specified Use Standards
0:04 good evening everyone
0:06 I'd like to call to order the July 27th
0:09 meeting of the planning policy
0:10 commission to order it is currently
0:13 6 31 PM tonight's meeting is a hybrid
0:16 meeting the planning policy commission
0:18 is in person but staff or members of the
0:21 public may be attending virtually or in
0:23 person
0:24 Thomas do we have a quorum tonight
0:29 chair voice we have a quorum
0:31 I may proceed
0:34 moving on to the second item on our
0:36 agenda public comment there's currently
0:38 nobody in the room other than staff and
0:41 our commissioners is there anyone who's
0:43 signed up virtually
0:44 no one has signed up virtually at this
0:46 time
0:47 okay
0:49 thank you I would like to acknowledge we
0:51 have received comments from a few
0:54 interested parties some of them came in
0:56 late I'm hoping everybody had a chance
0:57 to at least receive them if not read
0:59 them quite yet and also commissioner
1:02 Milligan has sent in some comments as
1:04 well
1:07 we will move on to regular business and
1:09 tonight our next item is the housing
1:12 element overview
1:13 for the comprehensive plan Stephen Padua
1:16 our long-range planning manager will be
1:18 presenting on this item tonight
1:20 Steven the floor is yours
1:26 thank you chair voice
1:33 okay thank you commissioner seem to do a
1:35 long-range planning manager with CPD
1:38 tonight we are taking an initial look at
1:41 the draft goals and policies for the
1:43 housing element
1:47 the direction needed for tonight is do
1:50 the draft goals policies accurately
1:51 reflect the state and County policies
1:53 part of your attachments for tonight's
1:56 materials
1:57 are there is specific issues that need
2:00 to be addressed and is there additional
2:02 information that would be helpful in
2:03 evaluating the proposed path to false
2:05 policies
2:07 so as I'm going through tonight's
2:09 presentation
2:11 I'll be asking some of these questions
2:12 as we go through each of the slides
2:14 we can also wait until the very end it's
2:17 kind of up to their voice will help us
2:19 to address the questions
2:23 so just as a reminder with the
2:24 comprehensive plan it the intent of the
2:26 conference plan is is really to be the
2:30 placeholder for
2:32 our goals and policies for the city that
2:35 that provide guidance on the city's
2:37 vision for various topics
2:40 where we have implementation of those
2:44 goals of policy is actually contained in
2:46 the development standards our land use
2:48 code Title 18 the architectural
2:50 standards as well as our affordable
2:52 housing strategy work plan
2:55 so those contain a lot of more of the
2:58 actions and strategies around how we are
3:00 implementing and achieving the vision
3:02 the goals and policies are a much higher
3:04 level getting guidance of much of that
3:06 implementation
3:10 the other portion that Commissioners
3:13 asked is to address with the
3:14 comprehensive plan is monitoring so we
3:16 do provide a state mandated report card
3:18 every five years or will be required for
3:21 providing this report card as well as we
3:23 provide our annual housing report card
3:25 that provides updated information and
3:27 data on housing
3:34 the other thing to consider with our
3:36 housing element is from the King County
3:38 Planning policies we now have affordable
3:41 housing targets and this is a little
3:44 different from what's required we are
3:47 required to have these targets within
3:49 the City of Issaquah we are not
3:51 necessarily having to require specific
3:53 properties to have these Ami percentages
3:56 with new development it's more about
3:58 incorporating policies similar to what
4:00 we'll discuss tonight that address how
4:02 best to achieve these targets
4:05 are there any questions about this
4:08 I have a quick question so are these
4:10 actual these percentages of Ami are
4:13 those set by the city
4:15 these were set at the county but in
4:18 coordination with a lot of the Cities
4:19 each city was given their own set of
4:22 targets
4:27 how often is the Ami updated
4:32 so this is actually new for all of our
4:35 cities so some of the discussion is
4:38 figuring out how best to achieve the
4:39 targets but the updates is something
4:41 that will probably be achieved with each
4:43 of the conference plan periodic updates
4:45 okay
4:47 all right
4:49 any other questions
4:54 the other thing to consider with our
4:56 goals and policies is we had to take a
4:58 look at new legislation uh specific to
5:00 housing there's the house bill 1220
5:02 House Bill 1110 and house bill 1337.
5:05 I'll talk about these as I'm going
5:06 through the goals and policy updates for
5:08 tonight what is required from House Bill
5:12 1220 is the accommodation and planning
5:15 for moderate low very low and extremely
5:17 low from households
5:19 combination planning for emergency
5:21 housing Emergency Shelters and permanent
5:23 Supportive Housing
5:25 adopting anti-displacement policies as
5:27 well as providing inventory and
5:29 monitoring of housing
5:33 for House Bill Leviton and 1337
5:37 previously back in March the commission
5:39 was updated on these house bills with
5:41 information that was not quite adopted
5:44 yet by the legislation what is now
5:47 required for jurisdictions is what's on
5:51 the screen now we are still working
5:53 through a lot of what the bill is
5:55 requiring from us and working through
5:56 strategies of how best to do it but you
5:58 can expect some of these draft policies
6:00 to address some of the compliance for
6:02 these bills so we'll have further
6:04 conversations with code updates for full
6:07 compliance with details but we are still
6:09 working through a review of these as we
6:11 haven't received final recommendations
6:15 guided guidance from the Department of
6:17 Commerce
6:23 tonight's discussion is organized in the
6:26 structure that will first be going
6:27 through
6:29 the new policies being recommended for
6:31 the housing element and one thing to
6:34 note is uh housing element is now
6:36 structured Within These different uh
6:38 sections based on the goals that we've
6:41 now are establishing for the housing
6:43 element
6:44 for the new
6:46 proposals we don't have anything new for
6:49 the special needs section or the
6:50 regional resources section we do have
6:53 amendments for all the sections just so
6:54 you know why some of that's not being
6:57 addressed
7:01 so getting started for housing Supply we
7:03 have a goal achieve a variety of
7:04 neighborhoods housing types and
7:06 densities throughout the city
7:08 oh I need to go back actually
7:10 so in your packet you have housing
7:15 Supply and neighborhood character as
7:16 different sections we omitted having the
7:20 neighborhood character goal as in your
7:23 materials that'll be part of your your
7:26 materials for the next meeting and we'll
7:27 discuss that further but it doesn't
7:29 change any of the policies that were in
7:30 the Imperial for tonight
7:35 so for the goal of housing Supply we're
7:37 proposing
7:38 several new policies
7:40 these policies these first three
7:44 X1 is primarily focusing on a higher
7:46 density diversity of housing focused in
7:49 the regional growth Center this is
7:51 something that is actually required by
7:52 the state and County and so we are in
7:55 compliance with those requirements with
7:57 this policy
7:58 with X2 develop regulations and
8:00 prioritize needs of cross Burton
8:03 populations this is also a requirement
8:05 from the state and County to address
8:07 within the conference plan
8:09 for X3 remedy historical inequities in
8:12 and expand access to home ownership
8:13 opportunities this is also a policy
8:15 required by state
8:18 are there any questions on this set of
8:20 policies I know we didn't get to it
8:22 maybe we'll start with each slide
8:25 we'll stop and see if anyone has any
8:26 questions about it and then we'll see
8:28 how we're doing on time if it looks like
8:30 we're uh not burning through it quite
8:33 properly we'll maybe speed up so let's
8:34 try it see what happens here any
8:37 questions as far as these three policies
8:44 foreign
8:46 I have a question on the policy X2
8:49 because it kind of reads us two things
8:52 um or maybe it's like two parts
8:54 and so the first part around
8:56 collaborating with populations most
8:58 disproportionately impacted by housing
9:00 cost burden
9:02 um that piece feels like it shouldn't
9:04 just be limited to housing Supply
9:06 um and so I think that that kind of
9:08 collaborating right should exist through
9:11 all of these sections and so is there a
9:13 way to call that out
9:15 um and then the second part right around
9:16 in developing regulations that
9:18 prioritize the needs and solutions
9:19 articulated by these disproportionately
9:22 impacted populations feels like
9:24 like and then right right I don't know
9:29 it makes sense as one but I also feel
9:31 like that collaborating piece should be
9:32 pulled out and applied to others
9:34 I guess that's not really a question but
9:36 uh no that I think that's actually
9:37 really good uh comment Vice chair Vader
9:40 and one thing
9:42 to that I just want to highlight it you
9:44 know for the housing element we wanted
9:46 housing specific this being a county and
9:48 state requirement we have to address the
9:51 housing specific we are looking at
9:53 similar policies within the other
9:54 elements to address that coordination
9:56 that you're kind of talking to
9:58 um but we do have to have it specific to
10:00 housing within the housing element just
10:02 to address what's required for this
10:04 and I think that's a good point and
10:05 hopefully for those who are watching or
10:08 who will watch this later to realize and
10:10 to listen carefully that some of these
10:12 are State and County requirements
10:13 these are high negotiations correct
10:17 um there is a little bit of leeway in
10:19 how you word it in terms of like
10:20 coordination with the other elements
10:22 we'll be looking at that but
10:24 um a lot of How It's where it is based
10:26 on what we see is being required of us
10:28 from the county
10:32 okay
10:35 any other questions on this set of
10:37 policies
10:44 so the next set of new policies is under
10:46 the housing affordability goal that's to
10:49 realize affordable ownership and Rental
10:51 opportunities throughout the city for
10:53 households of all economic segments of
10:57 the community
11:02 so for this for this goal the first
11:05 three policies is the first is going to
11:07 be the prioritization of 50 Ami or lower
11:11 second is to
11:15 address emergency housing Emergency
11:17 Shelters and transitional shelters as
11:21 what's now required of his house bill
11:23 1220 and the third policy is the
11:26 amendment of regulations to present that
11:28 present barriers to Equitable housing
11:29 that's actually a county requirement to
11:31 address as a policy
11:34 any questions on this particular slide
11:37 I do have one and this actually comes
11:39 from comments or delivered late today
11:44 the lower than 50 Ami
11:47 where does that come from where does
11:48 that number come from so this is
11:50 actually going back to my previous slide
11:53 on targets
11:55 so this is being a requirement from King
11:57 County to have a dress in our
11:59 comprehensive plan we have a majority of
12:02 Target of that Target units at 50 or
12:05 lower
12:06 and so by prioritizing it we're showing
12:09 that as a priority and that actually
12:10 being acquired policy on showing how
12:13 you're prioritizing the majority of
12:15 these uh the targeted units it is I know
12:18 it's all legalistic the word prioritize
12:21 what how does the city Define that
12:24 we have some of this is a more Market
12:26 forces correct
12:28 a lot of his Market forces and so that's
12:30 the thing with targets is we can set the
12:31 policies and a lot of the foundational
12:35 um regulations around how best to
12:37 encourage or achieve these housing
12:39 targets but the Market's really going to
12:41 be driving what actually
12:43 so for this particular policy
12:49 this is actually complying with the
12:52 requirement of how best we're achieving
12:54 or showing that we're achieving those
12:56 targets as a policy
13:01 smart
13:03 one question I have on um
13:06 policy number X4 what's the difference
13:09 between X4 and policy E4 and more so
13:15 with x-forces prioritize 50 or less
13:19 and E4 says 30 or below Ami
13:28 and I can read it if you and so this is
13:31 work with local Regional and national
13:34 resources to increase public and private
13:37 dollars available on a local and
13:39 Regional level for affordable special
13:42 needs housing
13:44 especially has an affordable to
13:47 households at or below 30 percent Ami
13:51 that uh that amendment is actually or so
13:54 the amendment for E4 is actually a
13:56 clarification of what Cal King County
13:58 defines very low income which is the 30
14:01 percent of the rate
14:04 okay and then X4 is the prioritization
14:08 for the city of okay correct
14:20 the next two policies X7 is reduction of
14:23 barriers to ownership of 80 Ami or lower
14:26 X8 is the mitigation uh displacement
14:30 from large-scale investment Market
14:31 pressure and land use
14:35 and both of these are required by state
14:37 and County to incorporate as part of our
14:38 policies
14:42 yeah sorry I should have asked this
14:43 before
14:44 um when we are talking about the
14:46 percentages is that saying that these
14:49 are housing units that would be like
14:50 income
14:52 and enter there'd be like an income
14:53 requirement to purchase these or is it
14:55 just
14:57 something that somebody says if you're
14:59 you can afford right if you make this
15:01 much
15:03 it is the latter so it's the
15:05 affordability of the housing so they're
15:07 not like income restricted
15:09 so Theory someone with a higher income
15:11 who could purchase that could purchase
15:13 that house or that property
15:16 yes so oftentimes you have to be income
15:20 restricted to be purchasing for those
15:22 properties
15:28 you're good
15:29 yeah
15:33 the next set of goal housing
15:36 affordability goal
15:39 insurer conference plan goals policies
15:41 are accompanied by effective
15:43 implementing regulations programs and
15:45 funding
15:48 so this is on results and accountability
15:50 for a new policy so we
15:54 are introducing a five-year evaluation
15:56 of regulations which is now a state
15:57 requirement
16:00 the x10 five-year update of housing
16:02 strategy work plan this is something
16:03 that actually is already adopted within
16:05 the housing strategy work plan it's just
16:06 now being incorporated into the
16:07 comprehensive plan
16:09 X11 is identify gaps in Partnerships and
16:12 resources which is also a requirement
16:15 from the state and County to incorporate
16:17 in our policies and then the X12 annual
16:20 housing report card that's actually
16:21 something that's already adopted by the
16:23 city
16:26 yeah just a question on that five-year
16:29 refresh is it um agile enough for I know
16:33 you it takes time to actually realize if
16:36 a client is working but with the annual
16:39 report card is it agile enough where
16:42 let's say year two or year three you see
16:45 something is at work in that something
16:48 could be tweaked through of course
16:51 um on meetings and legislation and
16:53 whatnot yes absolutely with any of our
16:56 plans we can always if we see something
16:57 wrong that we need to update we'll
17:00 absolutely update it before that
17:01 five-year requirement is up but this is
17:03 just saying we are required to require
17:05 at least every five years
17:07 thank you
17:12 Mr Bader yeah um all right lots of
17:15 questions
17:16 um a question on like where the
17:19 monitoring fits in and what we're
17:20 monitoring so we're just monitoring like
17:22 progress towards some of these like
17:25 numerical targets or are we monitoring
17:27 progress towards the things like
17:29 reducing right
17:31 um impact on marginalized populations
17:34 um are we monitoring like some of those
17:37 like more
17:38 the qualitative
17:40 it's all the above so some of this with
17:43 the monitoring is you know we have the
17:45 monitoring with the housing report card
17:46 it doesn't incorporate all what's now
17:48 required of us at the state so that's
17:50 something that we'll need to update uh
17:51 following the conference
17:58 please proceed okay
18:02 so now we're moving to the amended
18:04 housing policies that are proposed
18:09 so with housing Supply these first three
18:11 policies maintain adequate land Supply
18:13 to meet needs of the city
18:16 this is a city requirement but or a city
18:19 policy but it is kind of addressing some
18:22 of what's required from the King County
18:23 Planning policies A2 allow and promote
18:26 variety of housing that is the state
18:28 money requirement and then the adoption
18:31 regulations to maintain neighborhood
18:33 character that's the Amendments that are
18:36 being proposed is really just clarifying
18:37 uh what the language should be saying
18:41 some of that is trying to bring some of
18:43 our policies to what we are wanting out
18:45 of the conference plan rather than
18:47 what's in our functional plans or
18:48 implements
18:54 thank you Bader
18:56 I took that this is what happens when I
18:58 like have my notes in front of me um on
19:01 B1 just a question the like as
19:03 identified by King County county-wide
19:05 Planning policies in the final draft
19:07 will those be linked to this so like a
19:09 lay person knows what that means yes
19:11 yeah so in in the next draft of the
19:14 housing element you'll see what those
19:16 policies are it's primarily addressing
19:18 the uh
19:19 Ami targets that were on the previous
19:21 slide
19:33 for these next three policies A4 require
19:36 attributes that contribute to the public
19:37 realm
19:38 this is consistent with the land use
19:42 code language uh what was updated in
19:45 title 18. A5 allow flexibility and
19:48 standards this is the change is
19:50 primarily just clarifying making it more
19:52 actionable
19:53 um something that we also were trying to
19:55 achieve with Alfred's Plan update and
19:56 then A6 higher density housing near
19:58 Commercial standards this removed
20:00 because it's actually repetitive of a
20:02 few other policies that were proposed
20:04 for the element
20:09 that one seems pretty self-explanatory I
20:11 think you can I'm happy to answer any
20:13 questions if you have any yeah no
20:21 okay we can move on
20:29 so for this first set of policies
20:32 um these are actually addressed in the
20:34 land use element so we'll be we remove
20:37 this policy primarily because it is
20:39 repetitive of what's in the land use
20:40 element
20:41 for A10 this is diversities and ease
20:44 this is repetitive of the other policies
20:46 A2 and A5 and then for a11 this uh the
20:50 language on edus and variety of
20:52 densities clarified makes it a little
20:54 more actual
21:00 any questions on this app
21:10 okay for the next policy B3 this one is
21:12 support development preservation near
21:14 Transit
21:15 this is actually one of the state and
21:16 County requirements so it's amended over
21:18 existing policy
21:20 E2 strategies to address affordability
21:22 and special needs this one was clarified
21:25 to be a little more actionable
21:27 and then goal C this is actually
21:30 repetitive policies so we're proposing
21:31 to actually remove this goal and
21:33 incorporate its set of policies as part
21:35 of the housing affordability goal and
21:38 section
21:41 any questions on this side
21:49 commissioners
21:50 we'll just clarify so you see like
21:53 section c or like policy C you're you're
21:58 removing the whole section so we it's
22:01 it's primarily just the goal not the
22:03 policies so it was previously goal C in
22:07 the existing comprehensive plan and
22:09 housing element we're proposing to
22:11 remove that goal incorporate all the CE
22:14 policies into the housing affordability
22:17 sector okay
22:20 it just seemed repetitive of what we
22:23 already had so we figured we'd
22:24 consolidate those sections
22:29 any other questions
22:34 okay
22:37 the next policy C1 this one's uh
22:40 avoiding
22:41 disproportional impacts when making land
22:44 use changes this is a state county
22:46 requirement City to incorporate as a
22:48 policy
22:49 C2 offer incentives for development and
22:51 preservation another requirement of the
22:53 state and County then C6 prioritize
22:56 affordable housing on Surplus land this
22:58 one that was amended to be clarified as
23:01 more actionable
23:05 materialism
23:07 and just a question on C1 I know it's a
23:10 state and County requirement
23:13 um do they Define what disproportional
23:15 impacts are
23:17 there's no vagueness on it or are we
23:21 able to massage the language they
23:23 provide some definitions on what that
23:26 means but the city will be working
23:28 through our own definitions on this for
23:30 the conference okay good that would be
23:32 attached to what's disproportionately
23:34 okay yeah we can we can provide that
23:37 okay and will it be in this document or
23:40 for us to look at or it would be in the
23:43 conference plan document and then use
23:45 further within our implementation and
23:47 functional plan okay thank you
23:51 foreign
23:53 if there's other terms that you see that
23:55 we can help identify or at least call
23:57 out at least provide Clarity within the
24:00 comfort zone please let us know that as
24:01 well
24:02 well if any other questions
24:05 I I've got a couple on these two slides
24:08 or this one slide
24:10 um so I believe it's a King County
24:12 policy and I know you attached uh
24:14 encounter these policies here it says
24:17 avoid disproportional changes
24:21 um I think it's age 20 expanding housing
24:23 and neighborhoods in the King County
24:25 policies
24:27 mitigate displacement risk consideration
24:30 given the preservation I guess as well
24:33 as cultural communities as well as
24:34 Investments and low very very low
24:37 I guess it is that's what I'm trying to
24:39 figure out is that is the idea to not
24:44 I guess is the idea against
24:45 gentrification
24:48 when they say displacement
24:50 or disproportional impact
24:53 it's not necessarily gentrification that
24:55 they're addressing though it's one of
24:57 the things that get addressed it's it's
25:00 primarily just taking into account the
25:02 existing residents or tenants
25:07 the land that's going to be developed
25:09 and making sure that you are considering
25:11 displacement and with the high cost of
25:14 land going up we want to make sure that
25:17 we're not completely displacing a lot of
25:20 the existing
25:22 right so how best to address that in the
25:24 policies right and I guess that's where
25:26 some of the language is uh open to
25:29 interpretation you have a void
25:31 so again I bought one person considers
25:34 avoid I'm thinking of like old town
25:36 right a bunch of older
25:39 single-family residential houses
25:42 is the idea that again when you say
25:44 avoid it is that just obviously that's
25:46 just city land
25:47 not talking about private resident
25:49 houses which you can sell to whoever
25:50 they want
25:53 yes and no so
25:56 um it's not necessarily city land that
25:57 we're looking at or you know city
25:59 property that we're looking at it's also
26:01 just the development of the neighborhood
26:02 and so if
26:04 um when talking about neighborhood
26:06 characteristics
26:07 if you are wanting to I mean
26:11 maintain certain characteristics within
26:14 each neighborhood that you want to
26:15 consider at least
26:17 the income different income levels
26:19 particularly with the targets that we
26:20 need to maintain now uh within the
26:22 comprehensive plan
26:24 I guess so in my mind I'm thinking of
26:26 like Clyde Hill it was the idea to make
26:28 sure that something like Clyde Hill
26:29 never happens here
26:31 not necessarily
26:34 um it's primarily just being conscious
26:36 of the existing resident evidence and so
26:39 making sure that they still have a home
26:40 and we're not people aren't feeling like
26:42 they're getting pushed out
26:44 I'm sure you can talk to some people
26:46 inside he'll feel like they're getting
26:47 pushed out but you know for those who
26:50 are staying without the exception of us
26:52 their uh property tax they're also
26:54 seeing their land value yeah
27:00 um and then I'm just going to mention
27:01 this quickly because we got a another
27:04 comments about incentives we're not
27:07 taking any incentives away there was a
27:09 comment about far the floor area ratio
27:12 waving impact fees we already do those
27:15 things those aren't going away correct
27:17 right I just wanted to make sure that
27:18 person that they are watching knows that
27:21 those those incentives are still there
27:23 for the development right and and
27:25 identification of those specific tools
27:27 which we need to offer as part of
27:29 incentives or incentivizing a lot of the
27:31 housing development that we want
27:33 um a lot of that gets addressed in the
27:34 housing strategy work plan so that's
27:35 kind of that different level of
27:37 comprehensive plan versus the functional
27:39 plans
27:40 foreign
27:41 again
27:45 I want to explain how the city views
27:46 prioritize when it's looking at policy
27:49 C6 that one is in an attempt to make it
27:53 a little more actionable because the
27:54 previous language uh was considered
27:58 giving priority
27:59 and changing its priority actually makes
28:01 it as that it identifies actually
28:03 priority for the city which it is and so
28:05 being able to change that language helps
28:08 us emphasize how important it is for the
28:11 city so
28:12 is there any
28:14 discussion on
28:16 keeping the existing language versus
28:17 what's being proposed I'm just thinking
28:20 of like Talus and Issaquah Highlands
28:21 right that was Surplus land at one time
28:24 is the idea that when you say when the
28:26 city says prior to prioritize affordable
28:28 housing are we talking about a
28:30 percentage of Issaquah Highlands are we
28:31 talking about the whole thing should
28:33 have been affordable housing up on that
28:34 Hill
28:35 it's primarily just showing that
28:36 affordable housing is a priority not
28:38 necessarily that we're designating in
28:39 each of the neighborhoods a certain
28:40 percentage of affordable housing
28:46 I'm satisfied anybody else
28:48 there we go
28:53 I know it's it's just actionable
28:56 prioritize but how would you how would
29:00 you implement it or measure it
29:02 that would be a discussion with the
29:05 update with the housing strategy
29:07 um with implementation and I know it's
29:09 very hard to stay out of a lot of the
29:12 actions and that's really kind of the
29:13 level we're trying to keep it at
29:15 primarily to also satisfy some of the
29:17 requirements from the county and state
29:19 when it comes to this even though this
29:21 is actual this is actually a policy that
29:23 is required of us from the King King
29:25 County in the State uh we are just
29:28 amended because it was already existing
29:29 policy
29:32 okay I think the key thing is that it's
29:35 the land is city land
29:38 and then when somebody wants to develop
29:41 on it right yes how would they
29:45 have a discussion on prioritizing
29:47 affordable it would it just be a
29:49 discussion or would there be
29:51 a have 20 percent
29:54 with Nea Surplus land you would evaluate
29:57 it for what kind of development the city
29:59 wants to do that's something that we're
30:01 currently going through right now is a
30:03 update to our evaluation of a lot of our
30:06 Circle plans to give a recommendation of
30:08 what to do with it
30:09 um so yes it would be a discussion of
30:11 what we should do with that Surplus plan
30:12 to benefit City goals or at least what
30:15 we're trying to achieve is the division
30:16 of our facilities as well as the
30:19 community
30:20 and I guess it may be depend on how much
30:23 affordable housing you have at the time
30:25 as well
30:27 yes so it's it's kind of always a moving
30:29 Target in terms of like how you're best
30:31 achieving your own targets yeah so that
30:33 I think where I'm getting that is that I
30:36 mean I get there right now but provide
30:38 more definition to it to say we may not
30:42 this may have to go beyond this this
30:44 commission but
30:46 um where we have definition where it
30:48 says if there's only this much
30:51 affordable housing at this date and more
30:54 needs to be added than we need to add 10
30:56 or 20 in that Surplus land yeah so it
31:00 gives more definition and guidance for
31:03 the people adjudicated the use of that
31:07 land
31:07 yeah and and a lot of this provides you
31:10 know it gives us guidance in terms of
31:12 like when we're having those discussions
31:13 with each individual Surplus property
31:15 for the city because we don't want to
31:17 give specific percentages when it might
31:20 not make sense to do it with certain
31:21 properties whether it's the size of the
31:23 property or even the timing in terms of
31:25 like how much we've been able to achieve
31:26 with affordable housing within the city
31:27 at the time of when the Surplus property
31:29 we wanted to develop a surplus property
31:32 at some point right because I think it
31:34 nuts but in but if get me wrong I know
31:36 the city's trying to move away from
31:37 development agreements but what would
31:39 happen is that would be worked out
31:40 through attorneys with the city and it's
31:42 at the city council administrative level
31:44 it's not a boarding commission like you
31:47 said we're just trying to give
31:48 it might be a public hearing but
31:50 ultimately that's that's at that higher
31:52 level with attorneys
31:55 yes and no so you know if we have a
31:58 surplus property that we're wanting to
31:59 develop and we're wanting uh it's
32:01 significant enough for the community we
32:03 would probably get community feedback on
32:05 how what we want to achieve with the
32:06 property whether it's uh to sell it as a
32:10 surplus property or provided to as an
32:12 amenity for Community groups like
32:14 there's there's ultimately going to be
32:16 some type of community discussion
32:21 yeah we don't want to restrict it make
32:24 it too restrictive but we also don't
32:26 want to make it too loose as well it's
32:29 always kind of a balancing act with the
32:31 comprehensive plan policies of just
32:33 providing enough guidance so that we
32:35 know how to take action exactly thank
32:38 you
32:43 I think you're good okay
32:52 the next goal is Special Needs housing
32:54 is Chief housing opportunities for
32:56 residents with disabilities or other
32:58 housing special needs
33:01 this one currently has one proposed
33:04 policy encourage accessible housing for
33:05 those with disabilities the proposed
33:08 amendment is primarily just clarifying
33:10 what we're actually wanting to the
33:11 policy
33:13 is there a reason you guys left that
33:14 word encourage looks like you've
33:16 stripped it from pretty much every other
33:18 part of it is also addressing
33:23 a lot of it is actually addressed within
33:25 the human services element and the Human
33:26 Services strategic plan and so
33:29 um and some of it is also addressed
33:30 within the Ada transition fund and so
33:33 it's primarily just a
33:36 recognizing that coordination with those
33:39 other functional plans
33:41 and the other element
33:53 the next goal Regional resources
33:54 cooperate with other jurisdictions to
33:56 address the Region's housing needs
34:00 and so for these
34:03 proposed events for these policies E1
34:05 support legislation promoting promoting
34:07 housing goals and policies this one was
34:09 simplified
34:11 E3 cooperate with others to assess local
34:13 region and Regional needs and this one
34:15 was also clarified to get to the intent
34:18 of what we were trying to achieve and E4
34:20 worked with local Regional and national
34:21 resources for 30 in my households this
34:25 is actually a state and County
34:26 requirement this is the one they uh
34:28 commissioner has more they had brought
34:29 up earlier
34:32 are there any questions on these
34:44 okay
34:45 the next one results in accountability
34:47 this is amended policy
34:50 ensure regulations exist to implement
34:52 goals and policies this is actually a
34:54 policy that was turned into a goal to
34:56 address the new section of policies that
34:59 are introduced with a proposal
35:04 any questions on this one
35:10 before I get into the next steps is
35:11 there any other gold policies that
35:14 Commissioners like me to revisit
35:17 moisture Bader yeah it's not related to
35:19 any of the ones that you like covered so
35:22 I hold it or
35:25 is it is it the overall the housing
35:29 element it's related to one of the it's
35:31 kind of like a general it's related to
35:33 one of the policies
35:34 [Music]
35:37 in the county
35:41 that I just didn't see reflected in the
35:43 policies and I don't know if I should
35:44 say that now or if there's go ahead and
35:47 ask the question now so it's um policy
35:50 the county policy h18
35:54 which gets to expanded housing and
35:57 neighborhood choice for all residents
35:58 and I know that there's like the cottage
36:00 housing and micro units and all of that
36:02 that I think start to get to that but I
36:04 think there's an issue that like if
36:07 affordability more generally right like
36:09 outside of just affordability as a
36:10 percentage of like Ami but like how do
36:14 we is there like an opportunity to have
36:16 like policies that also like
36:19 or like family like we couldn't move to
36:21 Issaquah now right and we you know
36:23 fortunate enough not to fall within
36:24 those Ami categories but there's no way
36:26 we could afford our house today that we
36:28 bought three years ago
36:30 um and so is there some way in the
36:32 policies to just kind of promote like
36:33 overall affordability
36:36 um because I think it gets a little bit
36:37 to this like all residence that like
36:39 anyone who wants to come to Issaquah
36:41 should be able to like find the house
36:42 that they want right and this shouldn't
36:45 be an exclusive community
36:47 um and we're doing a lot of work which
36:48 is wonderful right to bring in those at
36:51 lower income tiers but I also think it
36:52 might be that missing middle I'm not
36:54 sure how we Define that but
36:56 um it feels like it's like catering
36:58 right market rate is catering to the
37:00 very high income right now and then we
37:02 have a lot of effort going on right at
37:04 the very low tiers and then there's this
37:06 entire middle group that I don't see
37:08 represented
37:09 um in the housing policy and I don't
37:11 know if that's appropriate and that's
37:13 how it should be or if there's a way to
37:15 somehow address that you know we can
37:16 take a look at that a little bit closely
37:18 to see if we can add a little more
37:20 language to answer your question I know
37:23 there's a balance of keeping at the high
37:25 level with a conference plan which
37:27 there's I think two policies right now
37:29 that kind of address middle housing but
37:31 to the language that's in age 18 of the
37:34 King County policies it gets more into
37:36 the strategy but I think you're right
37:38 that we can potentially have a few more
37:40 policies that kind of address this
37:43 let me ask you this real quickly and
37:45 then commissioner asked Moana
37:47 um so you burn through all the slides
37:50 Commissioners yeah this is your time
37:53 and uh I will ask something right after
37:56 commissioner
37:57 what up
38:00 um and to the point that commissioner
38:02 better talked about the the that missing
38:05 middle I see that for the Ami you have
38:08 up to 120 Ami but of course sometimes
38:12 that middle class may be a little bit
38:15 above that as well so that that's I
38:18 think a concern for a certain amount of
38:20 people in this community that if you
38:23 look at the Ami and the cost of housing
38:26 in Issaquah at Ami
38:30 um that on which location Issaquah they
38:33 may not be able to afford
38:35 the current
38:36 um inventory of houses right now let
38:40 alone you get a little bit above that
38:42 Ami level so I'm looking for that Ami I
38:47 think is is a good start but to
38:50 um commissioner voter's point is to also
38:53 look at
38:55 not only address it of course the higher
38:58 earners and the lower earners but that
39:01 that that missing middle as well or the
39:04 statement yeah so missing middle you
39:06 know primarily this middle just provides
39:08 a wider spectrum of housing types within
39:09 so it doesn't necessarily solve or
39:11 address a lot of the affordable housing
39:13 needs of the city it primarily just
39:15 provides more options it helps built in
39:17 more of the housing Supply to address
39:19 some of the affordability yeah
39:22 hmm I never unmetered myself prepared
39:25 for it to share more apparently
39:28 um because I'm thinking of things like
39:30 utilities right like cost of utilities
39:33 things that impact home ownership
39:34 outside of just the cost of purchasing a
39:37 home
39:37 that might be within the realm probably
39:41 not the comprehensive plan I don't know
39:43 um things like you know transparency
39:46 with like how are we
39:48 like using City funds for infrastructure
39:50 and then asking for like property tax
39:52 levies like that sort of stuff that gets
39:55 just the cost of owning a home right
39:57 outside of the
39:58 cost of a home does that make sense
40:01 I think so are you looking for a
40:03 specific policy in terms of
40:05 how we're addressing that or yeah I just
40:07 don't know if that like does that exist
40:09 somewhere because it it's more about
40:11 like affordability of home ownership
40:13 than
40:14 like
40:15 so it's like once you own the home right
40:17 how do you afford to stay in the home
40:19 especially with like how much everything
40:21 is going up right now
40:22 and is there a way that like we can plan
40:25 for that
40:27 so that we're not being forced out of
40:29 homes because of these like major
40:32 increases in property tax for example
40:34 you know I'll
40:36 I'll meet with my team to kind of
40:38 discuss that I don't know if any
40:40 and I recognize the comprehensive plan
40:42 maintenance possibly not the place for
40:44 that right right
40:48 good evening Commissioners
40:51 um great conversation and great topic I
40:53 think um from a policy standpoint you
40:56 guys could come up with a new policy so
40:57 this is what we have but if this is
41:00 missing to work with existing residents
41:02 to be able to keep their affordability
41:05 you know and that could be evaluation of
41:08 cities policies of you know
41:12 we don't control some of those things
41:15 that you know uh the market will dictate
41:17 but but how do we invest in existing
41:21 infrastructure and others to keep the
41:23 cost low to keep the residents that have
41:25 enjoyed you know or or open up for it so
41:28 I think some of the other disparate um
41:30 you know
41:32 any kind of assessment of the impact of
41:35 any City's policies there could be
41:37 Financial there could be investment of
41:39 infrastructure you know where is the
41:41 city's capital projects going uh going
41:44 and assisting with
41:46 um the neighborhoods that have not
41:48 historically been invested in those kind
41:51 of things could be set you know added as
41:53 new policies if based on your discussion
41:56 there's consensus that that's missing
41:58 from the complain
42:01 so this the I think the list that you
42:03 have is what the state required and then
42:06 what
42:07 um we had to change just to make it more
42:09 clear but if there's other things you'd
42:12 like to uh perhaps add that could go
42:14 into that category
42:16 that's really helpful that was my answer
42:18 to the like what's needed for Issaquah
42:20 um question so
42:22 what's unique about our city here that
42:26 um is still meeting the the state and
42:30 the county gold and all that kind of
42:31 stuff I think I think listening to your
42:33 conversation about King County
42:34 county-wide Planning policies and
42:36 targets you know I think we've kind of
42:38 talked about it but it is confusing and
42:40 it gets those are just to plan for and
42:42 accommodate those numbers it's not
42:45 you're going to get that you know you
42:47 may get more than that the market will
42:49 drive some of those things but we have
42:51 to be ready to serve that many units in
42:54 those categories so the the new
42:55 county-wide planning policy that haven't
42:57 been adopted is my understanding have
43:00 this affordability level so our Target
43:03 numbers of 3 500 were then split into
43:06 zero to thirty percent fifty percent you
43:08 know in that Spectrum so as we do the
43:11 comprehensive plan we have to plan for
43:13 and accommodate so we can't have rules
43:15 and regulations or policies that
43:17 prohibit the that type of mix to go in
43:23 um but it doesn't mean Issaquah is going
43:25 to get that many you know a lot of
43:27 factors will go into whether you know
43:29 there is subsidies there's Market driven
43:32 incentives and but the regulations have
43:35 to have that lens of you know is there
43:38 at a density bonus for instance for
43:40 lower Ami versus higher Ami so those
43:44 kind of things will will be evaluated as
43:47 we get into the the application of these
43:49 schools so the implementation
43:53 yeah but the the numbers really come
43:56 from a regional level the you know the
43:59 forecast that happens for this three
44:01 County region is x amount then each of
44:04 these cities get their allocation that
44:06 they have to plan for and accommodate so
44:08 ours was 3 500. and then now it's
44:11 finally uh you know one step further to
44:14 say how many of those percentages and
44:16 how that 3500 gets split into
44:20 I don't know if that's helpful but I
44:22 think a lot there's always confusion
44:24 about what are these targets they're
44:26 just targets for the city to plan for
44:28 and accommodate those numbers so that or
44:31 we have lower capacity water capacity
44:33 schools other things to serve that kind
44:36 of growth in those segments
44:43 now the other question with the targets
44:46 that were provided by the state and
44:48 County 3 500 now
44:51 does that number is that does that
44:54 number fit Issaquah from the sense of
44:57 hey
44:57 why isn't it
45:00 3510 or are we just are we accepted the
45:04 3500 yeah the projections work at the
45:07 region level you know you can't get that
45:09 that fine-grained correct numbers at a
45:13 city boundary level because a lot of you
45:16 know things can impact the affordability
45:18 being one of them but also the cost of
45:20 development the the other environmental
45:23 factors and how much developable land we
45:25 have but we we can't Zone you know one
45:27 house per five acres kind of thing and
45:29 then not accommodate a 3 500 people so
45:33 our capacity has to be at least 3 500.
45:37 it's sort of the way it plays out yeah
45:39 okay thank you
45:41 yeah
45:44 any other questions for Manny or Stephen
45:47 on this particular topic I have a couple
45:53 so I guess what I was going to say I'm
45:55 blocking it out now as far as you said
45:58 the capacity as far as the homes I guess
46:01 like you said it's it's market rate
46:03 that's the thing I think people are not
46:05 really realizing it's not that the city
46:07 can I guess for me I what I'm trying to
46:10 understand is when you say you can't
46:13 limit or you can't exclude
46:15 does that mean you just allow anything
46:17 to be built anywhere as long as they
46:20 have 30 percent under Ami is a part of
46:23 their building
46:25 um there's like age policy A2
46:28 uh allow and promote a variety of
46:30 housing types and lot sizes zones that
46:32 allow residential development
46:34 including but not limited to accessory
46:37 dwelling units duplexes so in that
46:40 policy are we saying you could build a
46:41 mini mansion
46:43 uh in the middle
46:44 I know we had like a
46:47 a zoning thing a couple years ago where
46:49 somebody wanted to build a mansion they
46:51 couldn't
46:52 yeah I think it's the opposite the house
46:55 bill 1110 is really getting at missing
46:58 middle uh and you know like Steven said
47:01 we're still trying to figure there's a
47:02 lot that happened at legislature in the
47:05 last session and and it's pretty complex
47:07 Department of Commerce is going to give
47:09 us a guidance they're still working on
47:11 some of these things so we don't have
47:13 all the answers to that yet but those
47:16 will come but I think this policy is
47:19 really saying allow and promote these
47:23 um you know missing metal types
47:25 okay and then I do now it's going back
47:28 to me so you mentioned Regional
47:30 even mentioned that these numbers these
47:33 Ami this is all pretty new I'm not
47:35 trying to get staff into trouble
47:38 I know you guys have always worked with
47:39 other jurisdictions and cities
47:41 but if this is all new this is I mean
47:45 how much of this
47:46 is how much are they trying to dictate
47:49 the City of Issaquah to do something at
47:51 the regional level King County that was
47:54 always our purview
47:56 yes you can answer that they looked at
47:58 the housing need in the region and they
48:01 determined that our region is going to
48:03 grow this much but there is a
48:05 significant need for people in these
48:07 income brackets that have no place to
48:09 live they're trying to address
48:11 homelessness they're trying to look at
48:13 where are these people going to be
48:15 housed and so
48:18 yeah how much of issaquah's purview the
48:22 last year has gone from we had this type
48:24 of reviewed down to here now because of
48:26 these interviews
48:28 we've always had the framework of
48:31 planning in the state is you've got the
48:33 growth management act right you know
48:34 that establishes the framework open
48:37 promote open spaces and you know have
48:39 affordable housing that's one of the
48:40 goals uh all 1990 that's always been the
48:45 charter now the King County county-wide
48:47 Planning policies have always been in
48:50 place our comprehensive plans have to be
48:53 in compliance with those county-wide
48:54 planning policies that's how planning is
48:57 set up in this state
48:59 and the way the county-wide planning
49:01 policies go through a growth management
49:02 policy gmpc that has made you know gets
49:07 input from the cities they debate and
49:10 discuss and pass that on to King County
49:12 Council to adopt and and then there's
49:15 also an affordable housing committee at
49:18 the you know that is made up of
49:19 different
49:20 cities and and others so there was a lot
49:22 of public process that went into uh what
49:26 is this Regional need where how do we
49:29 plan for an accommodate for this and
49:31 they came up with this table that it was
49:34 shown of issaquah's split each City got
49:37 their numbers split into that so that
49:39 new table that talks about targets based
49:43 on affordability is the new piece in the
49:45 county-wide planning policies but
49:47 countywide planning policies have always
49:48 been there they just established this
49:51 new table
49:52 for affordability levels based on all
49:55 the discussion in the region and where
49:57 we are as a region and how do we
49:59 accommodate this need for this segment
50:02 of our population that is going to have
50:04 this need for they can't afford you know
50:07 their affordability is x amount and
50:10 everyone takes this share that's sort of
50:14 the the discussion that happened
50:15 at the regional level where we now have
50:19 to plan for and you know
50:22 and accommodate it doesn't say we are
50:24 going to get it uh but each of our
50:26 policies cannot prohibit
50:29 some of those things so if we have
50:31 incentives in our policies how where we
50:33 put infrastructure waiver of fees for
50:36 affordable housing you know whatever
50:37 those uh things at a policy level that
50:41 the city can do is infrastructure how
50:44 much does it cost and those kind of
50:45 things and how do we Zone land and what
50:48 kind of development regulations what
50:49 incentives we can give but
50:53 the the you know some of that stuff will
50:57 will play out the way it will in in the
50:59 real world
51:01 right I know I can only speak for myself
51:03 I mean
51:04 I think they're maybe the reason you're
51:06 not seeing a lot of pushback I think a
51:08 lot of us probably like the goals and
51:10 policies that is a cause setting you
51:12 know some of the new things you guys are
51:13 introducing I'll be honest the King
51:16 County ones I'm a little bit more leery
51:18 of to be quite honest and I just that's
51:21 going to be one of my questions for
51:23 Stephen was you know the King County I
51:26 mean there's a particular one that
51:28 struck me was age 22 adopt and Implement
51:31 policies that protect housing stability
51:33 for rental house
51:35 that's awfully close to rent control
51:40 which would be introducing something
51:42 quite new to his
51:44 yeah I don't I'm not familiar with the
51:46 rent con that that the link that you're
51:49 making between right it's just I just is
51:51 out we can look into that policy and see
51:53 what that means yeah struck me is kind
51:55 of odd yeah we can look further into
51:57 that policy
51:59 um yeah but at the end of the day
52:02 you know Puget Sound Regional Council
52:04 has to certify the city's company plan
52:07 and one of their criteria is is
52:09 consistent with the county-wide planning
52:11 policies so for the city to apply for
52:14 Grants to do all of these we have you
52:17 know and again that umbrella of the
52:18 framework the certification process from
52:22 psrc is tied to these county-wide
52:24 planning
52:25 so we our comprehensive plan cannot be
52:28 completely inconsistent with the
52:31 candidate if there's discretion about
52:33 what this means or whatever we can
52:34 debate that and discuss that but we
52:37 cannot have
52:38 completely ignore the countywide money
52:42 right right it's just the language yeah
52:44 and we're still learning of what that
52:46 really means again I'm just trying to
52:48 figure out how closely we stick next to
52:50 King County because again I mean for all
52:52 of those who don't follow
52:54 County the King County Council that's
52:56 one way very directly
52:59 which is fine it's what the voters want
53:00 but I'm just saying is it good for
53:02 Issaquah
53:03 and you're saying you can't get
53:04 certified you can't get grants unless
53:06 you follow their prescription correct
53:08 but I think there's a public process to
53:09 be involved in that
53:11 county-wide planning policies it isn't
53:14 just King County there are cities and
53:16 you know there's a structure for when
53:17 those are discussed and debate
53:19 ultimately King County adopts them 70
53:21 percent of the cities have to ratify the
53:24 county-wide planning policies for them
53:25 to become
53:28 so there's a ratification process even
53:30 after King County
53:33 thank you for that I appreciate that
53:37 Vice chair Bader yeah I'm gonna I have a
53:39 little comment box actually on that H22
53:41 nh23
53:44 um because I think Pathways to housing
53:46 stability is a good thing right we don't
53:47 want to get to a place where rents are
53:48 so out of control that people you know
53:50 are one page like one last paycheck away
53:52 right from losing their home we don't
53:54 want that and so I read that more as
53:55 like tenant rights
53:57 um and similarly like the housing
53:59 healthy and safe homes which is the 23.
54:02 those are things that I also didn't see
54:04 like in the housing like how do we
54:06 ensure that like our existing housing
54:08 stock is of high quality right that it's
54:10 healthy for people
54:11 um and that like landlords right are
54:14 expected to maintain homes that
54:16 potentially renters are living and
54:18 especially like the old and older
54:19 housing stock that we have here
54:21 um and I again I don't I'm showing like
54:24 my just lack of knowledge of how local
54:25 government works I think like I'm
54:27 assuming it's not the comp plan but like
54:29 where do those things exist because
54:32 they're they're obviously directly
54:33 related to housing um but it's less
54:35 about like growth management and again
54:37 more about like management of existing
54:40 stock right
54:42 so I think a lot of the strategies
54:44 you're speaking to from the King County
54:45 buying policies is more of the
54:47 implementation side of it also it is
54:49 trying to keep to the higher level that
54:51 provides guidance but it's really going
54:53 to be in the housing strategy work plan
54:54 or any uh housing programs that the city
54:56 puts in place
55:00 but like many said we'll we'll take
55:02 another look at these policies to see if
55:04 there's anything that we can reduce
55:05 conference that kind of addresses some
55:07 of that concern
55:12 commissioners
55:13 and something like that
55:16 um what um commissioner uh bitter just
55:19 talked about
55:21 um that would be something that we'd
55:22 look at at a later date as well yes this
55:25 is not going to be the only night we'll
55:27 be talking about these policies we'll be
55:28 coming back and so uh yes we'll be we'll
55:32 be coming back to another meeting to
55:33 introduce
55:35 um more potential policies or revisions
55:37 to these some of these based on your
55:38 comments tonight and at upcoming
55:40 meetings thank you
55:43 foreign
55:51 we're going to get to next steps and
55:55 pretty much wrap this up so just want to
55:57 make sure our commissioners are asked
56:00 what they wanted to ask I mean again for
56:01 me a lot of this sounds very good so I
56:04 think that's one of the reasons I'm
56:06 comfortable with it there's a couple
56:07 sticking points which for me I brought
56:09 up but I know I'll hear more from staff
56:13 so I can go into the next oh I'm sorry
56:15 it's okay it's okay
56:17 [Music]
56:19 I'll promise I'll stop after this just a
56:22 clarifying question on like the
56:23 inclusion of the different housing types
56:25 in like it reads as like all residential
56:28 zones
56:29 um when I read that I also like am
56:33 making an assumption that like our land
56:35 use code right will restrict some of
56:38 what is allowed right that my neighbor
56:40 couldn't sell his property and then
56:42 build like a 50 unit micro right like
56:46 apartment complex on the lot next to my
56:48 house because that's not permitted right
56:51 by the land use code like they're yes
56:53 that's kind of how I'm rationalizing the
56:55 like allowance of these different types
56:58 in multiple zones that it'll all be kind
57:00 of regulated by right the policy that
57:02 we're proposing for the comprehensive
57:04 plan is primarily just recognizing that
57:05 requirement from House Bill 1110 the
57:08 next step in this process is then to now
57:10 propose development code updates to
57:12 address it specifically any changes of
57:15 the zones to allow a lot of these middle
57:16 housing types that we're addressing
57:19 yeah
57:21 I am done
57:24 uh commissioner Kennedy
57:26 before we move away from policies
57:28 actually I have a question about a
57:29 policy that wasn't edited
57:33 um it's policy A7 yes
57:37 um where purchases provide equal access
57:40 for people of recognize protected
57:41 classes
57:43 we broadened that policy
57:47 I mean it's a nice long list but what if
57:51 it and we find out it's not
57:52 comprehensive whenever you do lists like
57:54 this it's always nice to be including
57:56 but not limited to and you know so that
57:59 if there is needs to be an addition it
58:02 can
58:03 easily be added
58:05 or that class is easily included we're
58:09 not limiting to just that list
58:14 the very second one on the
58:18 can you repeat the number yeah
58:21 um it's h policy A7
58:25 housing Supply
58:28 ensure that the city's programs
58:29 regulations and land use practices
58:31 provide equal access for people of
58:33 recognized protected classes then
58:35 there's a parenthetical with a list of
58:37 classes which is nice and long
58:40 probably comprehensive
58:42 but as lists go they can become outdated
58:47 can we broaden it
58:50 um to say you know
58:52 somehow to say recognized
58:55 all people including but lot you know
58:57 without limitation
58:59 recognize classes yes yeah we can take a
59:02 look at that
59:08 thank you for that
59:11 I just had one quick thing about the
59:14 the Emergency Shelters and emergency
59:17 housing permanent Supportive Housing
59:20 again is that so that to me would seem
59:22 like the city is required to build
59:24 whereas again that's just we're making
59:26 allowances for them we're providing the
59:28 Zoning for those things to go into
59:29 correct it's it's the requirements we
59:31 must allow it it's not requiring us to
59:34 construct it but we do have Human
59:36 Services goals around providing some of
59:38 those services and opportunities I was
59:41 involved in one of those uh houses with
59:43 our company one in Bothell and then we
59:46 took the trip to the one in Kirkland I
59:47 mean those are great
59:49 so again I guess that was more for
59:51 clarification
59:55 I think that's about it okay
59:58 so going back to the questions
1:00:04 well I guess I'll go back to Next Step
1:00:07 so right now we're going to be revising
1:00:08 some of these schools of policies based
1:00:10 on the feedback we received here
1:00:12 um also looking at some of the public
1:00:14 comment of what we received and trying
1:00:16 to address some of that
1:00:18 we're going to be coming back with
1:00:19 another draft and then
1:00:21 the goal is to aim for State review of
1:00:24 the draft of the entire plan and then in
1:00:26 the first quarter early next year put
1:00:29 together all the final review of the
1:00:31 elements and then work towards a public
1:00:33 hearing and adoption process in the
1:00:35 middle of next year
1:00:39 your slides disappeared oh
1:00:42 I apologize
1:00:45 a pressure but it didn't
1:00:48 thank you for that
1:00:50 so going back to the questions
1:00:53 I think a lot of your comments and
1:00:55 questions tonight went at the first
1:00:57 question of do the draft goals policies
1:00:59 accurate to affect the state and County
1:01:00 policies
1:01:02 getting back to the second question I
1:01:04 know Vice chair Bader has provided some
1:01:07 of the feedback on other physical
1:01:09 specific issues that we need to be
1:01:10 addressing the rules of policies is
1:01:12 there anything additional to
1:01:14 in the housing elements maybe something
1:01:16 that you didn't see in the goals and
1:01:18 policies that we need to take a look at
1:01:22 um and then is there you know coming
1:01:24 back to you this is not going to be the
1:01:26 first meeting we'll be talking about
1:01:27 this is there any specific information
1:01:29 that'd be helpful for you to better
1:01:31 understand some of these goals and
1:01:32 policies or at least help us to approach
1:01:34 them or or how we're not approaching
1:01:39 um I'll kick it off as far as number two
1:01:42 so Issaquah specific we spend a lot of
1:01:46 in our land use code
1:01:48 figuring out different type of
1:01:49 boundaries for streams and rivers and
1:01:52 things like that
1:01:54 and we also spent a lot of time on
1:01:57 neighborhoods particularly like old town
1:01:59 and things like that so how would those
1:02:02 incentives work
1:02:04 I mean I guess
1:02:06 I guess what we put in the land use code
1:02:08 would Trump any type of comprehensive
1:02:10 policy so if the setback from a
1:02:13 protected wet area is what it is you
1:02:16 regardless if you're trying to build 30
1:02:18 lower Ami you wouldn't be able to
1:02:21 encroach on that any more or less than
1:02:23 what we've already allowed
1:02:28 I think I'm interpreting your question
1:02:29 right yes so the development the
1:02:31 development regulations you you need to
1:02:33 be in compliance with those standards
1:02:35 but there's always kind of a negotiation
1:02:37 process with with some developments and
1:02:40 that you're looking at getting in
1:02:41 affordable housing in certain areas but
1:02:43 that is kind of embedded in some of
1:02:45 those development regulations as well
1:02:47 same thing with like the Old Town Road
1:02:50 hold down standard
1:02:52 yeah if I'm understanding your question
1:02:54 you're saying can there be incentives
1:02:58 you know under the development
1:03:00 regulations so for critical areas no
1:03:03 generally those are based on science and
1:03:06 you know it doesn't matter which kind of
1:03:08 house or whatever but things like extra
1:03:10 height less parking you know those kind
1:03:14 of development regulations could could
1:03:16 be lower to incentivize some of these uh
1:03:20 addition you know things that are needed
1:03:22 if that's what
1:03:24 you know will will make them more
1:03:26 favorable to be built under that
1:03:30 provision so as we look at development
1:03:32 regulations if there are incentives and
1:03:34 the policies are to have this for this
1:03:38 Ami or that Mi I think there's that
1:03:40 cross check that needs to occur with
1:03:42 your development regulations is it
1:03:44 meeting the policy that we have to do
1:03:46 this are these incentives
1:03:48 okay for
1:03:50 this type of that type right and I
1:03:53 appreciate you both interpreting my
1:03:54 lingo I'm not as good at the city lingo
1:03:57 Bingo as you guys are but uh yeah that's
1:03:59 kind of what it's asking so we put in
1:04:01 all these structures these these
1:04:03 critical areas things like that and
1:04:06 again the way I'm reading some of this
1:04:07 is you prioritize or you must allow or
1:04:10 you must make way for these type of
1:04:12 housing or this type of Ami
1:04:14 okay how is that I imagine that there's
1:04:17 going to be a point where that's in
1:04:18 conflict with a certain area what what
1:04:21 trumps yeah it doesn't mean all your
1:04:23 development regulations
1:04:26 is there some that can be used as an
1:04:29 incentive to promote whatever whatever
1:04:31 our language ends up being
1:04:33 um for that type of
1:04:36 you know development that is required
1:04:39 for us to plan for
1:04:43 I understood you do perfectly
1:04:51 any other additional comments uh we'll
1:04:54 just take this one two and three I know
1:04:56 we've already spent a lot of time on one
1:04:57 but to Steven's Point any comments as
1:05:00 far as is a quad-specific issue
1:05:10 all right yeah you know the last thing
1:05:12 I'll say like we said before is the
1:05:15 the house bills and the state no the the
1:05:19 amount of stuff that came from State
1:05:21 Legislature towards us is going to take
1:05:23 some time to there are a lot of nuances
1:05:26 for those bills and so we're waiting for
1:05:28 some guidance from Department of
1:05:29 Commerce that's going to come our way
1:05:30 there's going to be a lot of discussion
1:05:32 debate about what that means is that
1:05:34 really what it means so we will you know
1:05:37 come up with a way to unpack all of
1:05:40 those for for you all
1:05:43 but at the same time uh you know
1:05:46 Issaquah is way ahead of some of our
1:05:48 cities
1:05:50 the amount of town homes and other
1:05:53 missing middle that Issaquah has
1:05:55 compared to a proportion net share of
1:05:58 their residential stock is ahead of all
1:06:00 of our neighboring cities I mean 50 of
1:06:03 our residential Zone land allows
1:06:06 multi-family already which is contrary
1:06:08 to some of the other cities that have
1:06:10 you know 70 to 80 single family zoning
1:06:12 so you know we the meniscus done uh good
1:06:17 work in that area of having missing
1:06:20 metal already
1:06:22 you know it's not just going to come
1:06:24 through the state's work at this point
1:06:26 we we already have a lot of our housing
1:06:29 stuff but we have work to do for a
1:06:32 diversity of housing choices and and you
1:06:34 know the that's the
1:06:36 housing action plan information that
1:06:38 we've previously shared which was a
1:06:40 community-led effort of
1:06:42 you know here are the nine strategies
1:06:44 um but again I think this is
1:06:47 comprehensive planning is really the
1:06:49 20-year plan and planning for and all
1:06:51 that so it you can go back and forth
1:06:54 between those two but but this is a
1:06:56 little bit at a higher level
1:06:59 I know for me and I can only speak for
1:07:01 me but sometimes when I think of these
1:07:03 things I'm trying to think of how it
1:07:05 goes so I'm thinking of Old Town I'm
1:07:07 trying to think you know as far as how
1:07:09 the developer would feel and I'm trying
1:07:11 to think how the neighbor would feel how
1:07:13 you know they've got this nice Queen
1:07:16 two-bedroom house and all of a sudden a
1:07:19 fourplex goes right up next to them
1:07:21 and at the same time I'm trying to also
1:07:23 feel like you know the developer and him
1:07:25 being able to work within reason and
1:07:28 then like I said I go back to like Clyde
1:07:30 Hill and seeing progress there so it's
1:07:33 all these competing things for me and I
1:07:35 don't know I don't know if it's like
1:07:36 that for everybody else but I think a
1:07:38 lot of people are struggling
1:07:44 and what
1:07:47 and really doing it thoughtfully
1:07:50 yeah I mean that's for me that's one of
1:07:51 my biggest fears is just making sure as
1:07:53 the quad develops I mean there's a cause
1:07:55 a beautiful town and again I know I've
1:07:58 said it before I've seen cities that did
1:08:00 not develop well
1:08:01 I think you know we have an opportunity
1:08:03 to like you said 20-year plan to make
1:08:05 sure that fate doesn't happen
1:08:07 yeah and and you know really not just
1:08:09 from the aesthetic standpoint but also
1:08:11 from the infrastructure the sewer the
1:08:14 water you know all those things to serve
1:08:16 this area I think some of that work
1:08:18 we're going to undertake Eis
1:08:20 on the technical side
1:08:22 of what does this mean
1:08:24 in terms of
1:08:26 utilities
1:08:29 in parking you know all of those things
1:08:31 we have some unique areas of the city
1:08:34 and and where you can't just widen the
1:08:37 roads and no tell me about it Front
1:08:39 Street right now is crazy with 18 being
1:08:42 closed oh my God
1:08:44 a fight every day
1:08:46 well thank you Minnie uh commissioner
1:08:49 Patterson
1:08:50 saved all my monologues for the end
1:08:52 um uh on question number two there kind
1:08:56 of issquare specific issues uh I was
1:08:58 reviewing the housing report card from
1:09:00 2022 and it did specify that there was
1:09:03 no development in the urban growth
1:09:05 Center of Central issquare
1:09:09 now I'm kind of getting the sense that
1:09:10 the comprehensive plan is very high
1:09:12 level however given that that is such a
1:09:14 focus is that worth considering for the
1:09:17 comprehensive plan being the central
1:09:20 issqua or Urban growth area
1:09:25 yeah so in
1:09:28 and remember which exact policy it is
1:09:31 we have a policy specifically on uh
1:09:34 prioritizing the Investments to go into
1:09:36 the regional growth Center for essential
1:09:38 as well so that is something before it
1:09:40 was encouraged
1:09:42 um we're trying to make it a little more
1:09:44 actionable now with the amendment that
1:09:46 we were proposing for that policy so
1:09:48 kind of getting to your point of yes we
1:09:50 want to realize it but it's more than
1:09:52 just the comprehensive plan so we wanted
1:09:55 identify as kind of a priority for the
1:09:57 city but we need to have further
1:09:58 discussion with the housing strategy
1:10:00 work plan we need to look at the
1:10:01 centralized coil plan again and then
1:10:03 also look at any updates to the
1:10:05 development regulations in order to help
1:10:07 us realize what we want for simple as
1:10:11 absolutely okay
1:10:13 um that's kind of a great segue into my
1:10:15 question that kind of works on question
1:10:17 three there which is is there additional
1:10:19 information
1:10:20 um the most exciting section I saw like
1:10:23 I thought all the policies looked great
1:10:24 and and the goals I think are very ideal
1:10:28 and a great direction for the city to go
1:10:32 um but the most exciting thing to me was
1:10:33 the results in accountability section uh
1:10:36 because I think as a very data-driven
1:10:38 person I think that being able to you
1:10:41 know show the effectiveness or show the
1:10:43 improvements are being made or or how
1:10:46 though the effective effectiveness of
1:10:48 those regulations are you know improving
1:10:51 the city is an important aspect of a
1:10:53 plan right like you make a plan how is
1:10:55 it working
1:10:57 um it might be a little lofty of an ask
1:11:00 but is it possible to get uh like a
1:11:04 combination of like metrics like either
1:11:06 Baseline metrics that would be
1:11:08 considered you know five years from now
1:11:10 what we would measure off of and or is
1:11:13 there an opportunity
1:11:16 to see where these things would be
1:11:18 reflected so for instance like I know
1:11:20 the comprehensive plan influences the
1:11:22 housing report card the housing strategy
1:11:25 work plan
1:11:26 um you know where could we expect to see
1:11:28 things like the
1:11:30 um the policies that we've written up in
1:11:31 the comprehensive plan where would that
1:11:33 data be reflected you know to look at
1:11:36 five years from now
1:11:39 that's going to be well it's going to be
1:11:41 in any version we have to the housing
1:11:43 strategy or the housing report card but
1:11:46 also that five-year report that we have
1:11:47 to do for the state as well as going to
1:11:49 be looking at how well we're achieving a
1:11:51 lot of those regulations for uh policies
1:11:53 and goals
1:11:58 commissioner
1:12:01 um now that report card
1:12:04 um is that something that's going to be
1:12:06 developed later on or it's already okay
1:12:09 so we have the housing report card now
1:12:11 um that you can take a look at but the
1:12:13 the state required five-year uh report
1:12:17 will be something that will be developed
1:12:20 okay the five year and then the the
1:12:22 annual one you'll be utilizing the same
1:12:25 template basically correct okay
1:12:31 Vice chair Bader will the like how would
1:12:34 you call the housing strategy something
1:12:37 a work plan yeah work plan will that be
1:12:39 I think it was like the climate one that
1:12:41 had like the policy and then it had the
1:12:43 specific targets underneath it
1:12:46 I think it was a long time ago we looked
1:12:48 at it and I don't so there's uh the
1:12:51 housing strategy work plan with the the
1:12:52 different strategies for housing and
1:12:55 then we also have the Issaquah climate
1:12:57 action plan yeah I'm just using that as
1:12:58 an example of like a template because I
1:13:01 think that that was the one that had
1:13:02 like very specific targets under
1:13:04 policies yes and so will we get to that
1:13:07 point with the housing strategy where we
1:13:08 have those like very specific targets
1:13:11 under each yeah so we're getting more
1:13:14 into the specific strategies of what
1:13:15 we're trying to achieve we'll get go
1:13:16 into the housing strategy
1:13:18 because I think that's like the
1:13:20 additional information that would be
1:13:21 helpful for me because I keep I feel
1:13:23 like I keep asking like where's where is
1:13:25 this gonna be and where does this go um
1:13:27 just like a big picture right of like
1:13:29 what what are all of the documents and
1:13:31 even like across the elements I know
1:13:33 that like we have the titles of the
1:13:35 elements but like what goes into each
1:13:37 one of those elements just so I can like
1:13:38 do some of this like mapping in my own
1:13:40 brain without having to like have 97
1:13:43 Post-its on my notes that are like where
1:13:45 does this fit in the comp plan
1:13:47 um I think that would be helpful as I'm
1:13:49 like processing this so we did provide
1:13:51 in the materials for the the meeting in
1:13:54 May I'm trying to remember the specific
1:13:55 date but we did provide the overview for
1:13:57 the housing element Kristin did to do a
1:13:59 pretty good job in her Memo of
1:14:00 identifying all the different uh plans
1:14:02 and elements and goals and policies that
1:14:04 are located in the city related to
1:14:05 housing take a look at that and then let
1:14:08 us know how we might be able to improve
1:14:09 them I feel like some of my questions go
1:14:11 outside of housing that are like housing
1:14:13 like adjacent
1:14:14 um like the things like the
1:14:16 affordability stuff and like lots of
1:14:18 utilities and it's like not directly
1:14:21 housing but like like I said my
1:14:23 questions are always like where where
1:14:24 where is this like right it's kind of
1:14:26 the overall picture yeah okay
1:14:34 any other questions that's easy that's
1:14:36 not easy
1:14:38 we'll take a look at it
1:14:42 all right so that's uh
1:14:44 I think we're done with number two so
1:14:46 how about 30 is there any additional
1:14:48 information well Vice chair Bader just
1:14:51 did that one bit and I'll ask for
1:14:53 everybody
1:14:55 question three
1:14:58 is there any other additional
1:15:00 information that would be helpful
1:15:06 all right
1:15:08 floor is yours okay
1:15:12 that's actually all my slides
1:15:20 I'll stop here on my screen
1:15:24 that we're done with our regular
1:15:26 business that's it
1:15:28 well thank you Stephen and thank you
1:15:30 Minnie
1:15:32 thank you Thomas and Jared up here too
1:15:36 we're going to start with reports
1:15:39 do we have any city council updates
1:15:43 you'd like to share you know they met
1:15:45 Monday night I believe
1:15:51 good evening yeah I can report on Monday
1:15:55 so the City of Issaquah won the lead
1:15:59 um Gold Award for which is the only
1:16:02 state uh City in the state of Washington
1:16:05 to get achieve that award
1:16:08 and only five that are Leed certified in
1:16:11 Washington state so that's a big
1:16:12 achievement a lot of credit goes to
1:16:14 Stacy
1:16:15 our sustainability manager that took the
1:16:19 time to apply and all that and there was
1:16:21 a celebration you know so it's a it's a
1:16:22 great achievement for the city all the
1:16:24 things that the city is doing
1:16:26 we have more work to do and you guys as
1:16:30 planning Commissioners have played a big
1:16:33 part into you know discussing those
1:16:34 policies and debates climate action plan
1:16:37 came to you all and Mobility master plan
1:16:40 I mean all those things got points for
1:16:43 us to win this award so congratulations
1:16:46 to to you all the other item on Monday
1:16:51 um night was the budget priorities so
1:16:55 the community survey that was done
1:16:58 um had highlighted a few things and that
1:17:00 that were prioritized into the top
1:17:02 things you know police
1:17:04 stuff and then transportation and then
1:17:07 for us it was uh planning and permitting
1:17:10 so what we heard from the community
1:17:12 survey was you know we got good points
1:17:15 for customer service we got good points
1:17:18 for online permitting we have some work
1:17:21 to do on process improvements and
1:17:23 timeliness of our permit reviews so
1:17:25 we're working on those
1:17:27 but we also shared with Council the
1:17:29 things that were budgeted with the with
1:17:32 this year's to biennial budget so the
1:17:35 funding that came to do the
1:17:37 comprehensive planning Eis because the
1:17:39 city has developed and you know with
1:17:41 these development agreements that had
1:17:43 separate eis's so we're taking a you
1:17:46 know a big technical part of this is
1:17:48 evaluating all the um the environmental
1:17:51 impact statement for the comprehensive
1:17:53 plan so we did get funding for that the
1:17:55 council also gave us funding for parking
1:17:57 study housing diversity options
1:18:00 um and
1:18:02 uh and yeah affordable housing uh
1:18:06 planner we had one position uh in the
1:18:08 budget uh however we have uh decided to
1:18:12 have our Economic Development uh manager
1:18:15 focus on the um on the capital side of
1:18:19 affordable housing and Kristen and
1:18:21 Archer providing support for the policy
1:18:23 objectives on affordable housing so
1:18:25 really looking at the funding that the
1:18:28 city got through for House Bill 1406
1:18:30 which was the state's portion of the
1:18:32 sales tax
1:18:34 um that the city got and then the house
1:18:36 bill 1590 which was the um you know King
1:18:40 Candy was going to adopt adopted that
1:18:42 increase in sales tax the City of
1:18:44 Issaquah did and that funding and how to
1:18:47 allocate that for the affordable housing
1:18:50 initiatives so that's what we're doing
1:18:52 uh in response to the um Community
1:18:56 survey so we had a discussion with
1:18:58 Council over that
1:19:00 yep that's Monday night's meeting that
1:19:04 sounds like a busy Monday night but that
1:19:06 sounds wonderful and I did hear about
1:19:08 the lead certification that's great yeah
1:19:11 that's a big thing big achievement
1:19:16 all right
1:19:17 any other reports
1:19:24 are there any other announcements
1:19:26 anything for the good of the order
1:19:28 commissioners
1:19:29 everybody enjoying their dog days of
1:19:32 summer
1:19:36 all right well that we will adjourn
1:19:38 tonight's
1:19:40 meeting of the planning policy
1:19:41 commission at
1:19:43 7 48 pm thank you

Attendance

Council / Members (6)
Voiss
Vice-Chair Bader
Commissioners Esemuede
Kennedy
Patterson Absence: Commissioner Milligan (Excused)
Commissioner Altimore (Excused)
Staff (1)
Minnie Dhaliwal, CP&D Director Stephen Padua, Long Range Planning Manager 2